Trump Abruptly Cuts Off Interview After Saying About His Obama “Wiretap” Claims: “I Don’t Stand by Anything”

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Today in an interview on CBS’ This Morning, our totally unhinged so-called president brought up his bogus disproven claims that the President Obama “wiretapped” him, insisted the bogus claims were actually “proven very strongly,” then pouted: “I don’t stand by anything.”

And then he abruptly cut off the interview.

In early March, Trump wrote on Twitter that Obama had illegally ordered surveillance of Trump Tower in the days and weeks leading up to last year’s election, an allegation for which neither the president nor any White House staff member has been able to offer definitive proof. Trump raised the allegation in his interview without prompting, but then appeared unwilling to discuss it further when CBS anchor John Dickerson asked him whether he stood by the accusation.

“I don’t stand by anything. I just — you can take it the way you want. I think our side’s been proven very strongly. And everybody’s talking about it. And frankly, it should be discussed,” Trump said. “That is a very big surveillance of our citizens. I think it’s a very big topic. And it’s a topic that should be No. 1. And we should find out what the hell is going on.”

When Dickerson pressed Trump for further details, the president replied that “you don’t have to ask me” because “I have my own opinions. You can have your own opinions.” Dickerson followed up that he wanted Trump’s opinion as president, prompting Trump to say “OK, it’s enough. Thank you,” and abruptly ended the interview.

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1
nines09  May 1, 2017 • 11:10:24am

Who knew words were so hard?

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Sir John Barron  May 1, 2017 • 11:12:14am
In early March, Trump wrote on Twitter that Obama had illegally ordered surveillance of Trump Tower in the days and weeks leading up to last year’s election, an allegation for which neither the president nor any White House staff member has been able to offer definitive proof. Trump raised the allegation in his interview without prompting, but then appeared unwilling to discuss it further when CBS anchor John Dickerson asked him whether he stood by the accusation.

Shut up with you and your gotcha questions!!!!!111

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Sir John Barron  May 1, 2017 • 11:13:28am
In early March, Trump wrote on Twitter that Obama had illegally ordered surveillance of Trump Tower in the days and weeks leading up to last year’s election, an allegation for which neither the president nor any White House staff member has been able to offer definitive proof

Everybody needs to stop taking DT literally realistically figuratively allegorically metaphorically.

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jaunte  May 1, 2017 • 11:13:39am
“…you can take it the way you want…”

Every dealer in slimy insinuation and innuendo when asked a straight question.

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jaunte  May 1, 2017 • 11:14:49am

What happened to the instinct to be suspicious of con-men?

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 11:15:07am
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Timothy Watson  May 1, 2017 • 11:15:18am

re: #1 nines09

Who knew words were so hard?

But he assured us that he has “the best words”.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  May 1, 2017 • 11:15:38am
“And frankly, it should be discussed,” Trump said.

Reporter: Okay, let’s discuss it.

Trump: We’re done here.

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Timothy Watson  May 1, 2017 • 11:15:50am

re: #3 Sir John Barron

Everybody needs to stop taking DT literally realistically figuratively allegorically metaphorically.

Ecumenically?

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jaunte  May 1, 2017 • 11:15:56am

“Advertising doesn’t work on me, but I sure love President Trump for telling it like it is!”

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Kragar  May 1, 2017 • 11:17:38am

You know, I’ve actively been watching what words I use because of their connotations, but really, the only way to describe Trump is as a petulant little bitch.

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lawhawk  May 1, 2017 • 11:18:56am

Trump argle bargles his interview with Dickerson.

Spicer: Hold my beer, I got this.

These people are deranged, delusional, and they’ve flat out convinced their supporters not to believe anything other than what they say (when what they’re saying makes absolutely no sense and they even tell you not to trust what they’re saying!)

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 11:19:09am

Easiest way to end a Trump interview: Accuse him of being President and ask him to stand behind his words AS President.

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 11:19:42am
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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 11:20:25am
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retired cynic  May 1, 2017 • 11:21:19am

Since DT is running for 2020 rather than presidenting now, we can look at some of the Democrats starting to push their elbows out a bit.

nytimes.com

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The Vicious Babushka  May 1, 2017 • 11:21:39am

Trump appeals to people who simultaneously believe that the Confederacy was all about “honoring noble heritage” and that nassty slaveowners were all Democrats, just like today’s Democrats. That’s why he is being slippery about what caused the Civil War.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 11:21:56am
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jaunte  May 1, 2017 • 11:23:21am

Spinal Tap, Stonehenge.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 1, 2017 • 11:24:00am

re: #3 Sir John Barron

Everybody needs to stop taking DT literally realistically figuratively allegorically metaphorically.

and simply read the words you project into his heart. that works with his supporters, and once the rest of the nations learns to think the same, everything will truly be great

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 1, 2017 • 11:27:03am

“I don’t stand by anything” - Especially the American people.

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wrenchwench  May 1, 2017 • 11:28:05am

re: #19 jaunte

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Spinal Tap, Stonehenge.

These go to 11 [feet]

These go to 11.mpg

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 11:28:29am

*blink*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 11:29:19am
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 1, 2017 • 11:30:32am

re: #19 jaunte

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Spinal Tap, Stonehenge.

18”

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jaunte  May 1, 2017 • 11:32:09am
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thecommodore  May 1, 2017 • 11:32:46am

This is good news, it seems to me. I figured Le Pen would close the gap once the finalists were determined, but the fact that she’s more than 19 points down with less than a week to go makes me cautiously optimistic.

Very cautiously optimistic considering how wrong the polls were on 11-8-16.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  May 1, 2017 • 11:33:10am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lawhawk  May 1, 2017 • 11:34:04am

Nothing this admin says can be taken at face value, or mean what they’re claiming it means.

Appropriations bills specifically spell out how much money goes to programs. There’s no funding for the wall. Trump and Bullshit Spice(r) says that there’s money and it’ll get done.

Trump doesn’t talk to Congress, let alone understand anything that he’s told to sign. The people around Trump are incompetent and ignorant, and they just bullshit Trump and everyone else and most of all Trump’s supporters. They buy everything Trump sells, no matter how deep Trump’s piling the bullshit.

We see it every time Trump utters some nonsensical raving about anything.

How soon before there’s a poll saying Trump supporters thought Jackson could have stopped the civil war and Lincoln was weak?

How soon before a poll saying that Trump fans can’t trust anything Trump says, and that’s just the way they like it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 11:34:34am

Spicer struggles mightily to defend Trump’s statement that he would be “honored” to meet with Kim Jong Un.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 1, 2017 • 11:35:44am

re: #29 lawhawk

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Nothing this admin says can be taken at face value, or mean what they’re claiming it means.

Appropriations bills specifically spell out how much money goes to programs. There’s no funding for the wall. Trump and Bullshit Spice(r) says that there’s money and it’ll get done.

Trump doesn’t talk to Congress, let alone understand anything that he’s told to sign. The people around Trump are incompetent and ignorant, and they just bullshit Trump and everyone else and most of all Trump’s supporters. They buy everything Trump sells, no matter how deep Trump’s piling the bullshit.

We see it every time Trump utters some nonsensical raving about anything.

How soon before there’s a poll saying Trump supporters thought Jackson could have stopped the civil war and Lincoln was weak?

How soon before a poll saying that Trump fans can’t trust anything Trump says, and that’s just the way they like it?

Nonono. That’s “puffery’!

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lawhawk  May 1, 2017 • 11:37:04am

re: #31 GlutenFreeJesus

Nonono. That’s “puffery’!

Nope. Words have meaning, and the word that belongs there is bullshit. :)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 1, 2017 • 11:39:35am

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 11:41:44am

I wonder how many liters of Pepto Sean Spicer downs every day.

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Sir John Barron  May 1, 2017 • 11:44:29am

re: #27 thecommodore

Very cautiously optimistic considering how wrong the polls were on 11-8-16.

Yup.

Is the France winner based on popular vote?

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 11:45:48am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 1, 2017 • 11:46:45am

MAKE AMERICAN OIL REFINERIES GREAT AGAIN

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makeitstop  May 1, 2017 • 11:50:18am

re: #22 wrenchwench

These go to 11 [feet]

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This is still one of the funniest mashups of the Trump era.

Youtube Video

(Replaced the video with one that actually has the audio on it.)

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electrotek  May 1, 2017 • 11:50:58am

re: #37 The Vicious Babushka

MAKE AMERICAN OIL REFINERIES GREAT AGAIN

But Clinton Foundation though!!!!

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Charles Johnson  May 1, 2017 • 11:51:26am
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Jeff!  May 1, 2017 • 11:56:20am
But, if you make opinion and fact synonymous you can do or say whatever you want because, in the immortal words of Jeffrey Lebowski, “yeah, well, that’s just like your opinion, man.”

cnn.com

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 11:56:52am

Check out the thread:

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The Vicious Babushka  May 1, 2017 • 11:59:39am

Any nominees?

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 12:04:51pm

re: #43 The Vicious Babushka

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Jeff!  May 1, 2017 • 12:06:06pm

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451_Montag  May 1, 2017 • 12:06:23pm

re: #27 thecommodore

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This is good news, it seems to me. I figured Le Pen would close the gap once the finalists were determined, but the fact that she’s more than 19 points down with less than a week to go makes me cautiously optimistic.

Very cautiously optimistic considering how wrong the polls were on 11-8-16.

There are very different socio-economic drivers inherent to a European country, especially with regards to history, including recent history. The idea that a country is formed from the ashes of a monarchy system, due to a popular uprising from both the masses as well as a well formed intelligentsia using enlightenment ideas as a rallying cry for a true government of the people.

That and the French are not fucking idiots.

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Timothy Watson  May 1, 2017 • 12:07:25pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

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Has anyone pointed out that the Trump administration has no power or authority to “change libel laws”? It would require a Supreme Court decision to have any substantive change.

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Jeff!  May 1, 2017 • 12:08:28pm

re: #47 Timothy Watson

Has anyone pointed out that the Trump administration has no power or authority to “change libel laws”? It would require a Supreme Court decision to have any substantive change.

Trump makes a lot of wild claims that he can’t really act on. To at least some degree, he’s a paper-tiger.

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 12:09:38pm

@tommyxtopher
Spicer says Trump is “starting a tradition” with National Prayer Breakfast. It started in 1953.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 1, 2017 • 12:13:20pm
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Stanley Sea  May 1, 2017 • 12:16:37pm

Please call your rep right now.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 1, 2017 • 12:17:00pm

Megan McArdle’s @asymmetricinfo time line is a complete shit show right now. She is taking the position that “The Civil War was about self-determination (for white people who owned slaves) not ending slavery”

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piratedan  May 1, 2017 • 12:20:46pm

re: #52 The Vicious Babushka

hard to educate those that would be willfully obtuse…. she could always simply read what the seceding documents from the actual states themselves were and decide if she needs to improve her own reading comprehension skills

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 12:24:37pm

re: #43 The Vicious Babushka

Any nominees?

Crazy Frog - Axel F

Crazy Frog - Axel F

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The Vicious Babushka  May 1, 2017 • 12:27:26pm

re: #54 Anymouse

“Crazy Frog” - Axel F

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I was going to recommend “Friday Friday” but that’s way too obvious and the emo cover was freaking brilliant.

Friday by Rebecca Black - Cover by Matt Mulholland

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Kragar  May 1, 2017 • 12:27:41pm

re: #47 Timothy Watson

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 12:30:11pm

Clueless Pakistani journalist sorta praises Trump, denies the gas chambers.

pakobserver.net

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 12:31:52pm

re: #52 The Vicious Babushka

Megan McArdle’s @asymmetricinfo time line is a complete shit show right now. She is taking the position that “The Civil War was about self-determination (for white people who owned slaves) not ending slavery”

She actually has a point, which she put very poorly - “Self-determination”, indeed! The South seceded over slavery, specifically protecting and expanding it. They didn’t want anyone interfering with their ‘right’ to own black people. They went to war to split the Union.

The North went to war to preserve the Union. They didn’t go to war to free the slaves, by and large, and Lincoln, for all that he opposed slavery, expressed a willingness to allow it to continue if it kept the Union together.

So, the war wasn’t fought to free the slaves. It was fought to guarantee their enslavement, and that side lost.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 12:34:04pm

re: #56 Kragar

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Probably wants to get rid of the requirement for reciprocal discovery - anyone he sues or who sues him has to turn over all documents, related or unrelated. He doesn’t have to turn over any.
//

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 12:34:48pm

re: #59 Blind Frog Belly White

She actually has a point, which she put very poorly - “Self-determination”, indeed! The South seceded over slavery, specifically protecting and expanding it. They didn’t want anyone interfering with their ‘right’ to own black people. They went to war to split the Union.

The North went to war to preserve the Union. They didn’t go to war to free the slaves, by and large, and Lincoln, for all that he opposed slavery, expressed a willingness to allow it to continue if it kept the Union together.

So, the war wasn’t fought to free the slaves. It was fought to guarantee their enslavement, and that side lost.

Hear, hear!

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 12:34:53pm
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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 12:35:48pm

re: #59 Blind Frog Belly White

She actually has a point, which she put very poorly - “Self-determination”, indeed! The South seceded over slavery, specifically protecting and expanding it. They didn’t want anyone interfering with their ‘right’ to own black people. They went to war to split the Union.

The North went to war to preserve the Union. They didn’t go to war to free the slaves, by and large, and Lincoln, for all that he opposed slavery, expressed a willingness to allow it to continue if it kept the Union together.

So, the war wasn’t fought to free the slaves. It was fought to guarantee their enslavement, and that side lost.

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Sort of like states rights. And as Kragar has pointed out before, the Southern states and slavery advocates had no problem with the federal fugitive slave act.

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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 12:35:56pm

re: #50 The Vicious Babushka

Someone correct me if I am wrong. Is it not perfectly legal for practically anyone to carry an assortment of firearms onto University of Texas property.
And, if so, how was this tragedy not averted by the “well armed populace”?

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makeitstop  May 1, 2017 • 12:37:17pm

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

I was going to recommend “Friday Friday” but that’s way too obvious and the emo cover was freaking brilliant.

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The Bad Lip Reading interpretation was pretty good, too.

“Gang Fight” — Rebecca Black, as interpreted by a bad lip reader

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 12:38:02pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Sort of like states rights. And as Kragar has pointed out before, the Southern states and slavery advocates had no problem with the federal fugitive slave act.

Just as their descendants believe in the Supremacy Clause when it gets them what they want, and the 10th Amendment when THAT gets them what they want.

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The Great Eye  May 1, 2017 • 12:40:14pm

re: #59 Blind Frog Belly White

She actually has a point, which she put very poorly - “Self-determination”, indeed! The South seceded over slavery, specifically protecting and expanding it. They didn’t want anyone interfering with their ‘right’ to own black people. They went to war to split the Union.

The North went to war to preserve the Union. They didn’t go to war to free the slaves, by and large, and Lincoln, for all that he opposed slavery, expressed a willingness to allow it to continue if it kept the Union together.

So, the war wasn’t fought to free the slaves. It was fought to guarantee their enslavement, and that side lost.

This is the great dodge that the Lost Causers/States Rights/War of Northern Aggression Truthers love to use. For the Confederacy the war was always about slavery, but for the Union at it’s start the war was about preserving the Union, only later on did the Union make emancipation a goal. It’s through this wiggle room that the Confederacy apologists make all their cases about “The war not being about slavery” and then “States rights” or maybe even “tariffs” get thrown in.

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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 12:41:22pm
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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 12:42:00pm

re: #66 Blind Frog Belly White

Just as their descendants believe in the Supremacy Clause when it gets them what they want, and the 10th Amendment when THAT gets them what they want.

Yep.

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Charles Johnson  May 1, 2017 • 12:43:06pm
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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 12:43:41pm

And as much as CSA proponents try to claim, Lincoln was a hell of a lot more progressive minded than the average white men of his time on race matters.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2017 • 12:44:52pm

Says a lot about this country when the go to response for depression is to lash out in violence.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 12:45:10pm

re: #67 The Great Eye

This is the great dodge that the Lost Causers/States Rights/War of Northern Aggression Truthers love to use. For the Confederacy the war was always about slavery, but for the Union at it’s start the war was about preserving the Union, only later on did the Union make emancipation a goal. It’s through this wiggle room that the Confederacy apologists make all their cases about “The war not being about slavery” and then “States rights” or maybe even “tariffs” get thrown in.

I’ve even seen people try to argue that the Confederacy went to war over the principle that they COULD secede, if they wanted to, as a principle completely divorced from WHY they were seceding. To me, that seemed mindbogglingly stupid.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 1, 2017 • 12:45:26pm

re: #64 FormerDirtDart

Someone correct me if I am wrong. Is it not perfectly legal for practically anyone to carry an assortment of firearms onto University of Texas property.
And, if so, how was this tragedy not averted by the “well armed populace”?

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Yes. UT allows concealed carry.

google.com

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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 12:45:33pm
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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 12:46:50pm

re: #75 FormerDirtDart

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The Intercept would have bitched at Obama whatever he decided to do. So sick of this pedantic bs.

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Stanley Sea  May 1, 2017 • 12:48:41pm

!!!

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Charles Johnson  May 1, 2017 • 12:48:41pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 1, 2017 • 12:49:45pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

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THE GREATEST DEALMAKER & NEGOTIATOR THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN got his ass handed to him by Democrats in the budget vote.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 1, 2017 • 12:50:01pm

Well if the pounding of helicopter blades is any measure the march in LA is pretty big. CBS says 100,000 fwiw. They should go through Pershing square

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 1, 2017 • 12:50:52pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Yes, I did block you for coming at me with your climate change “skepticism.” Life’s too short to waste time with this right wing BS.

Even back when LGF was a lot more conservative, you did not suffer Creationists or climate change deniers easily, which is one of the reasons I stuck around.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 1, 2017 • 12:51:02pm

re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve even seen people try to argue that the Confederacy went to war over the principle that they COULD secede, if they wanted to, as a principle completely divorced from WHY they were seceding. To me, that seemed mindbogglingly stupid.

Yeah I used to see that a lot on alt.war.civil.usa

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Charles Johnson  May 1, 2017 • 12:51:39pm
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ObserverArt  May 1, 2017 • 12:52:38pm

re: #3 Sir John Barron

Everybody needs to stop taking DT literally realistically figuratively allegorically metaphorically.

I am full-on ready to stop taking Donald Trump as our president.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 1, 2017 • 12:56:29pm

Why do people tie themselves up in knots trying to make sense out of Trumparglebargle

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EPR-radar  May 1, 2017 • 12:56:34pm

re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve even seen people try to argue that the Confederacy went to war over the principle that they COULD secede, if they wanted to, as a principle completely divorced from WHY they were seceding. To me, that seemed mindbogglingly stupid.

Deliberate stupidity of this kind is to be expected when it comes to something as blatantly evil as being an apologist for the Confederacy.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 1, 2017 • 12:57:33pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

And as much as CSA proponents try to claim, Lincoln was a hell of a lot more progressive minded than the average white men of his time on race matters.

And more progressive than the WWC of today. Actually, probably more progressive than the average Trump voter.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 1, 2017 • 12:58:39pm

Hmm IIRC President James Polk invaded Mexico, and he was POTUS after Jackson and before Lincoln. So was Polk “weak”?

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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 12:59:52pm
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Timothy Watson  May 1, 2017 • 1:00:09pm

re: #88 The Vicious Babushka

Hmm IIRC President James Polk invaded Mexico, and he was POTUS after Jackson and before Lincoln. So was Polk “weak”?

There you go with your facts and logic.

We live in a post-fact/alt-fact reality.

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EPR-radar  May 1, 2017 • 1:02:37pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart

The idea that a better president between Jackson and Lincoln could have prevented the civil war is asinine. IMO the US civil war was inevitable.

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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 1:04:21pm

Again Kentucky…

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 1:06:27pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

Again Kentucky…

“I don’t hear rape cases as a matter of conscience.”
“I don’t hear firearms cases as a matter of conscience.”
“I don’t hear divorce cases as a matter of conscience.”

He is a judge. He is supposed to interpret the law, not his religion.

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Skip Intro  May 1, 2017 • 1:07:56pm

re: #34 Dr. Matt

I wonder how many liters of Pepto Sean Spicer downs every day.

I think Spicer believes everything he says. He’d have to.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 1:10:13pm

Okay, so I read the thread, and I was wrong - McArdle is an idiot.

It’s like she never read a book on American history, and missed how the US nearly came to blows multiple times over this. She gets stuck on two concepts. The first is that nationalism wasn’t as strong then as it is now. The second is that Northern whites didn’t especially like black people.

She seems very simpleminded - Nationalism wasn’t as strong, so it didn’t exist at all. Northerners didn’t see blacks as their equals, so they didn’t care what was done to them.

WRT the first, it may overinterpret the idea that the US was a lose confederation of states before the Civil War. Rebellion against the elected government was seen as treasonous, just as it would be now.

WRT the second, you might not want somebody marrying your daughter while still not wanting them to be bought and sold as property, to be raped, beaten, or killed with impunity.

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Wile E. Coyote's mom  May 1, 2017 • 1:10:41pm

medium.com

On the heels of Pepsi and NYT, we get another tone death commercial.

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Skip Intro  May 1, 2017 • 1:10:44pm

re: #36 Dr. Matt

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Timothy Watson  May 1, 2017 • 1:11:58pm

re: #95 Blind Frog Belly White

WRT the second, you might not want somebody marrying your daughter while still not wanting them to be bought and sold as property, to be raped, beaten, or killed with impunity.

Also ignores the nuance that existed in the broader anti-slavery coalition. There were abolitionists who went as far as supporting full rights for blacks but there were also anti-slavery advocates who simply wanted the West to be “free soil” without slavery.

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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 1:15:03pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 1:16:11pm

re: #98 Timothy Watson

Also ignores the nuance that existed in the broader anti-slavery coalition. There were abolitionists who went as far as supporting full rights for blacks but there were also anti-slavery advocates who simply wanted the West to be “free soil” without slavery.

“Ignoring nuance” pretty much sums up her tweets.

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Jack Burton  May 1, 2017 • 1:18:03pm

You know… that Fuckface von Clownstick mask that FvC is holding up, if painted white would be an excellent Michael Myers mask for any further Halloween movies.

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Skip Intro  May 1, 2017 • 1:20:11pm

An archdiocese severs ties with Girl Scouts and calls for a ban on cookie sales

“I have asked the pastors of the Archdiocese to begin the process of transitioning away from the hosting of parish Girl Scout troops and toward the chartering of American Heritage Girls troops,” Archbishop Joseph F. Naumann said in a statement released Monday.

“Pastors were given the choice of making this transition quickly, or to, over the next several years, ‘graduate’ the scouts currently in the program. Regardless of whether they chose the immediate or phased transition, parishes should be in the process of forming American Heritage Girl troops, at least for their kindergartners, this fall.”

American Heritage Girls, founded in 1995, has become an option for those who say Girl Scouts has become too liberal and has relationships with organizations that support abortion rights and do not share traditional family values — allegations the Girl Scouts deny.

Read more here: sanluisobispo.com

The League of German American Girls is catchier.

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Jack Burton  May 1, 2017 • 1:21:58pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

An archdiocese severs ties with Girl Scouts and calls for a ban on cookie sales

The League of German American Girls is catchier.

Girls’ Junior Anti-Sex League.

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Skip Intro  May 1, 2017 • 1:22:51pm

re: #97 Skip Intro

I think the Fox culture will change by allowing women there to wear underwear.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 1:23:18pm

re: #101 Jack Burton

You know… that Fuckface von Clownstick mask that FvC is holding up, if painted white would be an excellent Michael Myers mask for any further Halloween movies.

You do know that the original Michael Myers mask was Bill Shatner, right?

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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 1:23:42pm

Extreme vetting?

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 1:23:59pm

Slippery slope: Girl Scout Cookies lead to abortion, cats and dogs living together, sex with ducks… .

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Jack Burton  May 1, 2017 • 1:24:51pm

re: #105 Blind Frog Belly White

You do know that the original Michael Myers mask was Bill Shatner, right?

Yep. When they did the recent reboot/whatever I jokingly suggested they should use a Chris Pine mask for the new one. Update their Kirk.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 1:25:57pm

re: #107 Anymouse

Slippery slope: Girl Scout Cookies lead to abortion, cats and dogs living together, sex with ducks… .

Well, I know for a fact that I didn’t have sex until after I’d eaten Girl Scout Cookies.

Not immediately. Not even remotely close in time at all. But still…

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Mike Lamb  May 1, 2017 • 1:27:32pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

Again Kentucky…

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Resign. You are unfit for your position.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 1, 2017 • 1:27:54pm

re: #91 EPR-radar

The idea that a better president between Jackson and Lincoln could have prevented the civil war is asinine. IMO the US civil war was inevitable.

African-American slaves were, by far, the single most valuable form of property in the United States in 1860, by a wide margin. No-one voluntarily surrenders that much wealth.

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Mike Lamb  May 1, 2017 • 1:29:18pm

re: #103 Jack Burton

Girls’ Junior Anti-Sex League.

Those chastity belts are a bitch to sew onto the sash….

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mmmirele  May 1, 2017 • 1:30:23pm

re: #111 Big Beautiful Door

African-American slaves were, by far, the single most valuable form of property in the United States in 1860, by a wide margin. No-one voluntarily surrenders that much wealth.

There’s a great chart demonstrating that fact in Ed Baptist’s The Half Has Never Been Told. A great book, well worth the time.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 1:31:19pm

re: #111 Big Beautiful Door

African-American slaves were, by far, the single most valuable form of property in the United States in 1860, by a wide margin. No-one voluntarily surrenders that much wealth.

I remember reading years ago that the soil in much of the South is really lousy - a lot of clay, not really good for growing much other than tobacco or cotton, and cotton depletes the already-lousy soil. This was one reason the proponents of slavery wanted to expand slavery westward - better soil, not already depleted by growing cotton.

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gocart mozart  May 1, 2017 • 1:33:50pm
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Major Tom  May 1, 2017 • 1:35:18pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

Trump struggling to define the word compromise:

“In many cases you’re forced into situations that you hate to be forced into.”

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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 1:36:58pm
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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 1:37:05pm

Slate takes down Bret Stephen’s climate denialism in his New York Times article.
slate.com

This is a classic strain of climate-change denialism. Stephens does not call a single fact into question throughout his piece. Instead, he’s telling his readers that their decision not to trust the entire institution of science that supports the theory of climate change might actually be reasonable. “Ordinary citizens also have a right to be skeptical of an overweening scientism,” he writes. “They know—as all environmentalists should—that history is littered with the human wreckage of scientific errors married to political power.” Trust nothing, he urges, for nothing deserves trust.

Programming note for Mr. Stephens: There is no such thing as “scientism,” which your copy of Microsoft Word would have hit if you typed it, you hack. Science is not an ideology, no matter how many religious and conservative people say it is.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 1, 2017 • 1:39:48pm

re: #93 Anymouse

He is a judge. He is supposed to interpret the law, not his religion.

Ah-yep. And if he can’t do that, he should find another line of work.

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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 1:41:49pm

re: #117 FormerDirtDart

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retired cynic  May 1, 2017 • 1:43:39pm

re: #120 FormerDirtDart

Can anyone seriously be that stupid?

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thedopefishlives  May 1, 2017 • 1:43:53pm

re: #120 FormerDirtDart

I heard that exact same example in a sermon a few weeks ago. I just shook my head and sighed.

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electrotek  May 1, 2017 • 1:45:07pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

!!!

Jesus that is beyond embarrassing.

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makeitstop  May 1, 2017 • 1:46:04pm

re: #121 retired cynic

Can anyone seriously be that stupid?

Challenge accepted.

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Timothy Watson  May 1, 2017 • 1:47:28pm

re: #121 retired cynic

Can anyone seriously be that stupid?

You know 62,984,825 people voted for Trump…right?

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 1:47:35pm

Whiteclay, Nebraska’s four beer stores in the town of twelve people are now closed, waiting on the outcome of their case to the state Court of Appeals.

starherald.com

The stores sell millions of cans of beer a year, almost exclusively to Pine Ridge Reservation across the state line in South Dakota.

Of course, there is a NIMBY aspect to stores being closed by the liquor control board. That would be the next town to the south, which wants none of the problems that Whiteclay has.

Whiteclay has been notorious for selling about 3.5 million beers annually, mostly to Native Americans from across the South Dakota border on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. On Sunday, those sales came to an end — at least for now.

Save for the dozen or so people who hung around the edges of the village hoping that the stores would open one last day, the streets of this unincorporated town of 12 residents were emptier than locals ever remembered. Even the wind that often whips through the northwestern Nebraska prairie in the spring was still.

But the quiet in Whiteclay on Sunday was deceiving.

Just 20 miles away in Rushville, the nearest town to the south, the two businesses that sell liquor were seeing a jump in customers — a reality many in Rushville predicted. Most residents have opposed the closing of the Whiteclay beer stores, fearing that the problems the village faced would move to their town.

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thedopefishlives  May 1, 2017 • 1:48:00pm

re: #124 makeitstop

Challenge accepted.

Rational people: “Nobody could possibly be that stupid.”
Evangelical Churches: “Hold my (root) beer and watch this.”

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 1:49:11pm

re: #118 Anymouse

Scientism certainly is a thing.

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Jack Burton  May 1, 2017 • 1:50:23pm

re: #120 FormerDirtDart

“Second Law of Thermo Fluid Dynamics”

Dafuq…

Not that it matters since no one reading this agrees with this guy, but just to save a few brain cells: The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics does not apply to biological evolution. Earth’s (or any planet’s) biosphere is not a closed system.

Or does he not believe in the sun either?

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 1:51:02pm

re: #117 FormerDirtDart

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Lovely.

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 1:52:57pm

re: #128 Nyet

Scientism certainly is a thing.

Well, I suppose if you’re holding up science as an article of faith.

It would imply science is the only way to discern fact from fiction. Aside from the fact that is largely true, it is not an ideology (-ism).

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Birth Control Works  May 1, 2017 • 1:54:36pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 1:54:55pm
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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 1:55:19pm

To Nickre: #129 Jack Burton

To nitpick just a bit: saying it doesn’t apply to open systems invites a stream of citations that it applies everywhere, and this is actually true. It’s just not very useful for open systems unless you account for all entropy “streams”.

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Jack Burton  May 1, 2017 • 1:55:19pm

re: #129 Jack Burton

While I’m at it. On the subject of the Sun.

A wingnut evangelical I knew, who had a college degree from a big-deal private University on the east coast actually believed the Sun was literally “on fire” (like burning Hydrogen… like the Hindenburg disaster I shit you not) and had no idea it was Nuclear Fusion.

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Birth Control Works  May 1, 2017 • 1:56:09pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart

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Zaphod isn’t looking at jack shit. His handlers are working at making the United States of America the world’s premier Evangelical Christian Theocracy.

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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 1:57:02pm
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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 1:57:08pm

re: #131 Anymouse

It’s a thing regardless of what one accepts. You tried to imply that the term doesn’t exist by mentioning Word. Well it does, even if you don’t find it useful.

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 1:57:21pm

re: #136 Birth Control Works

Zaphod isn’t looking at jack shit. His handlers are working at making the United States of America the world’s premier Evangelical Christian Theocracy.

Do I get to make a reservation up against the wall, or is it first come first served?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 1:59:01pm

It seems to me that Trump has been doing a lot of interviews these days and saying stuff that seems totally off the top of his head, with no thought involved, almost as if nobody’s telling him anything, or if they are, it’s not sticking.

There’s the Andrew Jackson thing. And there’s the North Korea thing. And then there’s this:

His administration was pushing the GOP leadership in the House to vote on this bill LAST WEEK, which Trump says THIS MORNING is ‘not in its final form’. It’s like he thinks that the bill is like a term sheet in a negotiation - get them to agree to it, and then your lawyers will hash it out.

If I were Paul Ryan, at this point I’d probably just stop whipping. What’s the point? Trump thinks he can just fix it afterwards.

On point after point, Trump says things in interviews that simply can’t be trusted. Not the factual things, which of course can’t be trusted, but the MAJOR POLICY issues! On top of that, his standard answer to anything he doesn’t understand is “We’re considering it” or “We’re looking into it”, which I guess he thinks conveys knowledgeable seriousness about a topic he just heard of, but which over time becomes a patently obvious dodge, but leads to crazy headlines.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 1, 2017 • 1:59:37pm

Current Mood

Walking around the Rockaways.

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thedopefishlives  May 1, 2017 • 1:59:47pm

re: #136 Birth Control Works

Zaphod isn’t looking at jack shit. His handlers are working at making the United States of America the world’s premier Evangelical Christian Theocracy.

Zaphod? As in THE Zaphod Beeblebrox?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:01:10pm

re: #128 Nyet

Scientism certainly is a thing.

Please define and use in a sentence.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 1, 2017 • 2:01:13pm

Gizmodo: Internet Gremlin Chuck Johnson’s Website Becomes Inaccessible During Neo-Nazi Crowdfund Campaign

After becoming the first person banned for life from Twitter, Chuck Johnson has largely receded from public view. Rumors (either planted or encouraged by Johnson himself) occasionally crop up that he’s taken on the role of a shadowy string-puller connected to the Trump administration, but his only visible venture besides the infrequently updated GotNews blog is Wesearchr—a crowdfunding site for “specific information that is of journalistic value.” For those hoping to fund the doxxing of private figures, Wesearchr today became largely inaccessible after allowing its SSL certification to lapse.

The timing could not be more perfect: The site’s fastest-rising bounty is a legal defense fund for Andrew Anglin, publisher neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer. More importantly, this ordeal reveals the interconnected dealings of the rogue’s gallery known as the alt-right, linking the movement’s mainstream figureheads to literal hategroups.

But the SSL lapse points to the most fundamental similarity between the Trump administration and its loathsome lapdog: incompetence. A website that can’t be accessed is no website at all, and a government that doesn’t understand (and refuses to learn) the basic tenants of governance is hucksterism through and through. Most people see neo-Nazis as a virulent strain of hate. Men like Johnson and Trump see them as useful idiots they can part from their money.

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer douchecanoe…..
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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 2:01:57pm

Wonkette with an image in their article taking down the New York Times climate change denying Bret Stephens article, showing absolute proof of global warming:

Proof of Global Warming
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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 2:03:19pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

Please define and use in a sentence.

I assume you haven’t been banned by Google.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:04:49pm

re: #146 Nyet

I assume you haven’t been banned by Google.

I’m more interested in your definition, since you say it’s a real thing.

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 2:06:25pm

re: #147 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m more interested in your definition, since you say it’s a real thing.

God is a thing. Whether it’s a real thing is a separate question. People use both terms. Deal with it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2017 • 2:06:32pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

Again Kentucky…

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“Practicing homosexuals”

What kind of bizarro terminology is this??

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 2:09:28pm

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

“Practicing homosexuals”

What kind of bizarro terminology is this??

The same people who talk about the “homosexual lifestyle” as if all gay people live the same life.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:09:47pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart

Trump confirms he’s “looking at” breaking up big banks

This is exactly the kind of thing I mean. “We’re looking at it.” Totally meaningless. A REAL President, if he said, “We’re looking at it” would go on to give you at least the top line pros vs cons. Trump? He says “We’re looking at it” because he’s not thinking about it at all, but wants to appear smart and in charge.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:10:28pm

re: #148 Nyet

God is a thing. Whether it’s a real thing is a separate question. People use both terms. Deal with it.

O_o

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Jack Burton  May 1, 2017 • 2:10:49pm

Wikipedia:

Scientism is a term used to describe the universal applicability of the scientific method and approach, and the view that empirical science constitutes the most authoritative worldview or the most valuable part of human learning—to the exclusion of other viewpoints.

The article is rather long and doesn’t appear to be written by religious cranks. So can we move on from this?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:11:15pm

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

“Practicing homosexuals”

What kind of bizarro terminology is this??

Well, you know, not everyone gets it right, at first. It takes practice.
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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 2:11:39pm

re: #148 Nyet

God is a thing. Whether it’s a real thing is a separate question. People use both terms. Deal with it.

“Scientism” is used primarily by philosophers and theologians to discredit both scientists and atheists, by claiming scientists have an ideology.

There is no such thing as a thing that is not real. Either God exists (and therefore is a thing), or God doesn’t exist (and therefore is not a thing).

That is sort of like saying aether or phlogiston are things. They are not. They were ideas (that happened to be wrong). They were never things.

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 2:11:51pm

re: #153 Jack Burton

Yes.

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nines09  May 1, 2017 • 2:12:42pm

It’s time for a cap job…..Or is it? Original Heavy Metal 1957 Fender Bassman with the new and improved spinning tone capacitor.

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 2:12:44pm

re: #155 Anymouse

Dude you were clearly unaware of the existence of the term and that’s all we are talking about.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:13:56pm

re: #156 Nyet

Yes.

Okay, but don’t you get the sense that this is not the definition that Stephens means when HE says ‘Scientism’? That what HE means is more along the lines of Anymouse’s #155?

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 2:16:30pm

re: #158 Nyet

Dude you were clearly unaware of the existence of the term and that’s all we are talking about.

I long ago encountered the term, primarily used by religious wingnuts that try claim science is an ideology, therefore no different than religion.

Perhaps my statement wasn’t clear (though I’m not sure what statement you’re referring to), but I am familiar with the word.

I’ll move on from this. There are better things to discuss, like Bret Stephens clearly having no understanding of science.

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Jack Burton  May 1, 2017 • 2:17:10pm

re: #159 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, but don’t you get the sense that this is not the definition that Stephens means when HE says ‘Scientism’? That what HE means is more along the lines of Anymouse’s #155?

The description I posted can easily be taken as is by the anti-intellectual magical thinkers and made to sound negative.

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 2:17:40pm

re: #159 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, but don’t you get the sense that this is not the definition that Stephens means when HE says ‘Scientism’? That what HE means is more along the lines of Anymouse’s #155?

Last time I checked Word didn’t differentiate between such nuances.

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Stanley Sea  May 1, 2017 • 2:18:10pm

As ALWAYS with the yam - he says something addled & his enablers have to work night & day to back it up. With lies.

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 2:19:15pm

re: #160 Anymouse

If you were familiar with the term, why would have you written that Word doesn’t recognize it as a word?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:19:16pm

Gah.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 2:20:02pm

I don’t know why it is that a nice, handwritten, well organized to do list makes my brain feel better, but there it is.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 2:20:05pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

As ALWAYS with the yam - he says something addled & his enablers have to work night & day to back it up. With lies.

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Uh huh.

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 2:20:06pm

Nazi snowflake Cernovich put his lunacy on proud display today in the White House press briefing.

Iframe

Direct Link

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 2:20:13pm

re: #165 Blind Frog Belly White

Gah.

Easier than admitting you were wrong, I understand.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 1, 2017 • 2:20:23pm

Fresh new LGF Page: The Rage Furby Lets His Grifting Website SSL Certificate Expire in the Middle of a Fundraiser

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2017 • 2:20:51pm

They might as well open an Auntie Annies in the White House, they all got mad pretzel making skills.

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Jack Burton  May 1, 2017 • 2:21:55pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

Jim Sciutto ✔ @jimsciutto
I’ve spent a lot of time in Asia, never once heard the Philippines described as crucial to #NorthKorea itself or any negotiations with it.

Probably wants to get some advice on the situation from Philippinochet. Perhaps share some chocolate cake or anecdotes about their mutual penis sizes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:22:13pm

re: #166 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t know why it is that a nice, handwritten, well organized to do list makes my brain feel better, but there it is.

Things To Do Today:
1. Make list of things to do today.
2. Cross #1 off list*.
3. Celebrate accomplishment with nap.

*This could easily become an infinite series - # 3 becomes cross #2 off, etc.

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 2:22:13pm

re: #162 Nyet

Last time I checked Word didn’t differentiate between such nuances.

True, and Word is hardly the sum of all English word knowledge (that’s why I have to add things to my dictionary occasionally - like the names of half the towns around here). Moreover, Mr. Stephens might not even have used Word. Or if he did, he doesn’t know what the little red squiggly means under a word (gee, maybe I should look that up).

Your mileage may vary, but my reading of Mr. Stephen’s article used the word the same way I’ve encountered it in the past: to discredit the scientific method, or to equate unreason with reason.

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 2:22:51pm

Damnit…my one engineer just gave notice. Says Trump’s new regs make it harder for H1B contractors so he needed to find a FTE sponsor. I congratulated him and wished him well and took him out for a cup of coffee to celebrate. It’s always good to make more money…and get health insurance.

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wrenchwench  May 1, 2017 • 2:22:51pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:23:22pm

re: #169 Nyet

Easier than admitting you were wrong, I understand.

I believe I asked question, Sergey, rather than making a statement. Can a question be wrong?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 2:23:22pm

Also I had to cut Friday’s run short because of some serious pain in my left foot. I sort of stayed off of it this weekend (if going to SF on Sunday and walking around a bunch counts as staying off of it - but another amazingly successful visit to Whitechapel which I love so much) and did 2 miles today to see where it was at.

Slight ache in the same area, but fingers crossed things are better. I have a half on Sunday and I’m doing that thing rain OR pain, dammit. (The only question is how much of it I’m walking.)

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Jack Burton  May 1, 2017 • 2:24:11pm

Oh and by the way I don’t think I’ve seen Philippinochet used for Duterte anywhere yet so I claim it. I made it. I have witnesses.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 2:24:59pm

re: #173 Blind Frog Belly White

Strangely enough, “organize my to do list” is a frequent item *on* said to do list, but rarely gets crossed off.

Probably because crossing it off would mean I’m 100% sure that I’m done with it and that rarely ever happens.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:25:22pm

re: #178 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also I had to cut Friday’s run short because of some serious pain in my left foot. I sort of stayed off of it this weekend (if going to SF on Sunday and walking around a bunch counts as staying off of it - but another amazingly successful visit to Whitechapel which I love so much) and did 2 miles today to see where it was at.

Slight ache in the same area, but fingers crossed things are better. I have a half on Sunday and I’m doing that thing rain OR pain, dammit. (The only question is how much of it I’m walking.)

Does it feel like stepping on a nail?

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wrenchwench  May 1, 2017 • 2:25:40pm

re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White

I believe I asked question, Sergey, rather than making a statement. Can a question be wrong?

Really depends on who you ask.

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 2:26:06pm

Rodrigo Duterte blew off Donald Trump, saying he may be too busy.

nytimes.com

MANILA — President Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines said on Monday that he might not accept President Trump’s invitation to visit the White House, because he was “tied up” with a busy schedule.

“I cannot make any definite promise,” Mr. Duterte said, adding, “I’m supposed to go to Russia; I’m also supposed to go to Israel.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 2:26:40pm

re: #181 Blind Frog Belly White

Does it feel like stepping on a nail?

No, like a muscle pulling somewhere in the front of the arch. It feels strongly like it should go away with massage. Walking doesn’t bother it at all (unless it’s already flared because of running, in which case I can feel it but it doesn’t get worse like it did with the run).

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:26:49pm

re: #180 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Strangely enough, “organize my to do list” is a frequent item *on* said to do list, but rarely gets crossed off.

Probably because crossing it off would mean I’m 100% sure that I’m done with it and that rarely ever happens.

My wife makes ‘to do’ lists, but tends to leave most of the things on it undone. Then she writes the same things again the next day. I have so far not mentioned that it would be easier to simply change the date at the top…..

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 1, 2017 • 2:27:17pm

Latest Dead Pool Update, Via Kevin Drum of Mother Jones:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 2:27:24pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

Please define and use in a sentence.

Definition of scientism

1
: methods and attitudes typical of or attributed to the natural scientist

2
: an exaggerated trust in the efficacy of the methods of natural science applied to all areas of investigation (as in philosophy, the social sciences, and the humanities)

merriam-webster.com

This is really a silly argument to be making.

One does not have to actually believe in something to point out that it is a thing.

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 2:27:30pm

re: #174 Anymouse

True, and Word is hardly the sum of all English word knowledge (

That’s kinda the point you missed in the original comment: Word not recognizing something as a thing doesn’t mean it’s not a thing.

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 2:27:31pm

re: #168 Dr. Matt

Nazi snowflake Cernovich put his lunacy on proud display today in the White House press briefing.

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Direct Link

The look Kristen Welker gives Nazi snowflake Cernovich is priceless.

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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 2:27:33pm

whoa…

At least 27 passengers were injured, with some suffering serious fractures and bruising, when an Aeroflot flight hit severe air turbulence on Monday. cnn.it

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 2:27:57pm

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nines09  May 1, 2017 • 2:28:14pm

re: #176 wrenchwench

Get a second chance at dysentery! In a VIP TENT! (Cholera not included, your mileage may vary, batteries not included.)

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wrenchwench  May 1, 2017 • 2:28:32pm

re: #184 klys (maker of Silmarils)

No, like a muscle pulling somewhere in the front of the arch. It feels strongly like it should go away with massage. Walking doesn’t bother it at all (unless it’s already flared because of running, in which case I can feel it but it doesn’t get worse like it did with the run).

Time to take up cycling! And keep the foot forward on the pedal.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:28:54pm

re: #191 darthstar

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“I’m going for a wee.”

“A wee what?”

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 2:29:06pm

re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White

“I’m just asking questions.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 2:30:07pm

re: #193 wrenchwench

Time to take up cycling! And keep the foot forward on the pedal.

I don’t think they’ll let me do that for the half.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:30:34pm

re: #193 wrenchwench

Time to take up cycling! And keep the foot forward on the pedal.

I invented a new word on my ride yesterday: Exhauspiration. That’s the feeling you get when you hit the steepest pitch on a climb, you’re dripping with sweat, and you try to shift into your lowest gear only to discover you’re already there.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 2:31:36pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:31:54pm

re: #195 Nyet

“I’m just asking questions.”

Yes, but you see, I actually WAS asking questions, not attempting to insert an unsubtantiated story into the public conscience.

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wrenchwench  May 1, 2017 • 2:32:09pm

re: #197 Blind Frog Belly White

I invented a new word on my ride yesterday: Exhauspiration. That’s the feeling you get when you hit the steepest pitch on a climb, you’re dripping with sweat, and you try to shift into your lowest gear only to discover you’re already there.

Also known as, ‘I think my tire just went flat.’

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 2:32:23pm
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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 2:32:25pm

re: #188 Nyet

That’s kinda the point you missed in the original comment: Word not recognizing something as a thing doesn’t mean it’s not a thing.

And the point you seem to have missed with my snarky comment aimed at Mr. Stephens is maybe he should have checked to see if it was a real word (note, snarky gets the little red squiggle as well).

That said, Mr. Stephens knows it is a word, as do I, and I suspect he and I both know why he used it. It’s usage in his column falls right in line with “science is a religion” or “science is liberal ideology.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 2:33:31pm

re: #198 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I believe this is related as well:

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:33:38pm

re: #200 wrenchwench

Also known as, ‘I think my tire just went flat.’

And it never is.

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Charles Johnson  May 1, 2017 • 2:34:10pm
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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 2:34:26pm

re: #202 Anymouse

And the point you seem to have missed with my snarky comment aimed at Mr. Stephens is maybe he should have checked to see if it was a real word (note, snarky gets the little red squiggle as well).

That makes no sense to me. However, I’m moving on.

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retired cynic  May 1, 2017 • 2:35:31pm

re: #173 Blind Frog Belly White

Things To Do Today:
1. Make list of things to do today.
2. Cross #1 off list*.
3. Celebrate accomplishment with nap.

*This could easily become an infinite series - # 3 becomes cross #2 off, etc.

Do you know me?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:36:43pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

merriam-webster.com

This is really a silly argument to be making.

One does not have to actually believe in something to point out that it is a thing.

Pedantry R Us!*

*Though, really, it should be ‘We are pedants’, but that’s less funny.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 2:36:58pm

re: #205 Charles Johnson

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Bye bye Lumpy.

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 2:37:14pm

re: #206 Nyet

That makes no sense to me. However, I’m moving on.

Me, too. (I’ll take the advice above: #1 make a list, #2 cross off number one, #3 celebrate completing list with a nap)

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makeitstop  May 1, 2017 • 2:38:12pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

As ALWAYS with the yam - he says something addled & his enablers have to work night & day to back it up. With lies.

WH chief of staff Reince Priebus says a visit from Philippines Pres. Duterte is necessary to deal with North Korea

Trump wants an invitation to the International Tough Guy Club. He probably figures they all hang out when they’re not working.
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 2:38:13pm

re: #203 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:39:19pm

re: #207 retired cynic

Do you know me?

Sometimes I read comments here that make me think maybe I’m commenting as other people without my own knowledge. Like the other day, when Turmp was doing his thing in Harrisburg, and somebody said, “And that’s why I left my home state, 35 years ago!”

I thought, “I left MY home state 35 years ago, and it’s the same state! Was that me?”

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Mike Lamb  May 1, 2017 • 2:39:42pm

re: #197 Blind Frog Belly White

I invented a new word on my ride yesterday: Exhauspiration. That’s the feeling you get when you hit the steepest pitch on a climb, you’re dripping with sweat, and you try to shift into your lowest gear only to discover you’re already there.

Also known as “The Glance”—as in taking a quick glance at the cassette to see if you have a lower gear.
Even worse is when you hit the shifter and nothing happens.

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 2:40:52pm
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calochortus  May 1, 2017 • 2:40:53pm

re: #166 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t know why it is that a nice, handwritten, well organized to do list with everything neatly crossed off makes my brain feel better, but there it is.

Fixed.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:41:04pm

re: #205 Charles Johnson

Oh, that would just be like Christmas had sex with Thanksgiving and they had a love child!

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makeitstop  May 1, 2017 • 2:41:08pm

re: #168 Dr. Matt

Nazi snowflake Cernovich put his lunacy on proud display today in the White House press briefing.

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What an asshole. He hijacked the presser to yell at the (real) media?

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 2:41:45pm

Lumpy and O’Racist out at Fox in a course of 2 weeks. Wow. Finally some good news for 2017.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 2:41:50pm

re: #208 Blind Frog Belly White

Pedantry R Us!*

*Though, really, it should be ‘We are pedants’, but that’s less funny.

indeed.

never ceases to amaze me how some arguments take on a life of their own.

Sometimes I think I could make my fortune with a discussion shovel concession stand…

:D

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 2:42:26pm

re: #216 calochortus

Fixed.

Is nice but is not required.

Just having them written down is generally soothing.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:42:57pm

re: #214 Mike Lamb

Also known as “The Glance”—as in taking a quick glance at the cassette to see if you have a lower gear.
Even worse is when you hit the shifter and nothing happens.

Yeah. It’s a good thing the ‘larger cog’ lever on Ergopower shifters is well made. I’d have snapped it off by now.

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makeitstop  May 1, 2017 • 2:43:28pm

re: #179 Jack Burton

Oh and by the way I don’t think I’ve seen Philippinochet used for Duterte anywhere yet so I claim it. I made it. I have witnesses.

Upding-worthy.

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 2:43:39pm

re: #218 makeitstop

What an asshole. He hijacked the presser to yell at the (real) media?

Look at his dry, cracked lips. He looks like a crackhead/meth addict.

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calochortus  May 1, 2017 • 2:43:43pm

re: #221 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Is nice but is not required.

Just having them written down is generally soothing.

Yes, I know. I have lists within lists and all that. Works for me-unless I lose my planner notebook. Then the world will end.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:46:49pm

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Bye bye Lumpy.

“What would Fox News be without Sean Hannity?”

Quieter.

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 2:46:54pm

As a card-carrying scientist with nearly two decades of work and over 80 peer-reviewed publications, I have never used the word ‘scientism’ and have never heard it used in scientific circles.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 2:47:46pm

re: #227 Dr. Matt

But with statistics like that I bet you do have tenure. ;)

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 1, 2017 • 2:48:28pm

re: #205 Charles Johnson

I’m sure MSNBC is writing up his contract right this moment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:48:29pm

re: #225 calochortus

Yes, I know. I have lists within lists and all that. Works for me-unless I lose my planner notebook. Then the world will end.

I was taking project management training, years ago. They introduced the ‘thought map’, which is really just an outline, for nonlinear thinkers.

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wrenchwench  May 1, 2017 • 2:48:34pm

re: #221 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I just fixed a part of a bike with the silicone spray you left me. It dripped all over, but got the job done. Thanks!

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Charles Johnson  May 1, 2017 • 2:49:16pm
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Mike Lamb  May 1, 2017 • 2:49:25pm

re: #224 Dr. Matt

Disavow “antifa”? I’m not overly familiar with all of my alt-right vernacular, but antifa = anti-fascism, yes? That’s a bad thing now?

Oh, and no Democrats are being asked to disavow the purported violence because they aren’t actively promoting it a la Trump.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 2:49:26pm

re: #231 wrenchwench

I just fixed a part of a bike with the silicone spray you left me. It dripped all over, but got the job done. Thanks!

Better all over there than all over in our car, which would have inevitably happened during the trip back home. ;)

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:50:20pm

re: #232 Charles Johnson

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That’s literally what the entire last 18 months have been - imitating what he thinks a President is like.

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 2:51:39pm

Trump to end Michelle Obama’s girls education programme.
thedailybeast.com

I suppose if were going to use The Handmaid’s Tale as a replacement for the Constitution, why not.

The Trump administration is moving to end former first lady Michelle Obama’s girls education program, according to documents obtained by CNN. The program, Let Girls Learn, was founded in 2015 in order to increase access to education for girls in developing nations. “Moving forward, we will not continue to use the Let Girls Learnbrand or maintain a stand-along program,” Sheila Crowley, the acting director of the Peace Corps, wrote in an email to employees. Tina Tchen, the former first lady’s ex-chief of staff, said it was “unfortunate” that the program wasn’t continuing past the Obama administration. “We think that this is an issue that has bipartisan support, it’s really not a Republican or Democratic issue,” Tchen said.

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 2:52:08pm

re: #228 klys (maker of Silmarils)

But with statistics like that I bet you do have tenure. ;)

Yup. But, today, tenure doesn’t mean much as in yesteryears unfortunately.

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gocart mozart  May 1, 2017 • 2:54:20pm
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Stanley Sea  May 1, 2017 • 2:54:50pm

He was a plumber.

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lawhawk  May 1, 2017 • 2:55:17pm

re: #238 gocart mozart

Plus one for the Goodfellas reference.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 2:58:00pm

Got a preexisting conditon? Apparently Mo Brooks thinks you brought it on yourself.

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Myron Falwell  May 1, 2017 • 2:58:06pm

re: #229 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m sure MSNBC is writing up his contract right this moment.

MSNBC wants to hire Hugh Freaking Hewitt. I wouldn’t put it past them.

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calochortus  May 1, 2017 • 3:00:26pm

re: #230 Blind Frog Belly White

I was taking project management training, years ago. They introduced the ‘thought map’, which is really just an outline, for nonlinear thinkers.

I’m totally linear. Those thought maps look like an invitation to utter planning disaster to me, but if they work for some people, that’s great. I won’t bore you with my planning method, but I will say Frixion pens (erasable ink, several colors) have improved my life.

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gocart mozart  May 1, 2017 • 3:00:51pm
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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 3:01:12pm

re: #233 Mike Lamb

Disavow “antifa”? I’m not overly familiar with all of my alt-right vernacular, but antifa = anti-fascism, yes? That’s a bad thing now?

Oh, and no Democrats are being asked to disavow the purported violence because they aren’t actively promoting it a la Trump.

Fascists, nationalists, and Klansmen have directly given support to Mr. Trump, and he has hired a number of them into his administration.

Antifa (anti-fascist) does not equal Democrat.

bbc.com

The alt-right - a disparate group of pro-Donald Trump provocateurs who critics say are bigoted white nationalists - has a reputation for trolling and online bullying. Now some believe they may have met their match in the form of a group of left-wing anarchists whose tactics are arguably more extreme.

They’re called “antifa”, short for “anti-fascist”. The movement has its roots in 1930s Europe, but has had a low profile for much of the intervening period. Now the recent surge in nationalist movements across the globe has given it a new enemy to fight.

Antifa activists say they are committed to fighting fascism and racism in all its forms. Some aren’t averse to violence, and the movement wasted little time in making its presence felt. Protests held during Donald Trump’s inauguration turned violent. Restaurant windows were smashed, a car was set on fire and objects were thrown at the police. More than 200 arrests were made.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 1, 2017 • 3:03:02pm

Finally saw the movie (Almost Famous) a few days ago. I’m only 17 years late. Loved the movie. The quote reminded my why I like/love/need/am addicted to LGF.

Peace

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lawhawk  May 1, 2017 • 3:04:41pm

re: #241 Blind Frog Belly White

Another dumbass GOPer who doesn’t get how insurance works, or how someone can get a preexisting condition.

Accident? Slip and fall? Cancer? Any can happen to someone who lives “right” does all the “right things” and they’d be saddled with higher costs. This is the same batcrap insanity that Ryan was pushing just a few short weeks ago - when Ryan showed everyone that his “policy wonk” credentials was just so much BS.

A person who lives a saintly life can get a preexisting condition just as surely as a sinner.

Making sure that polluters get to pollute toxic materials into the air and water as the GOP are currently enabling certainly means more people exposed to chemicals that will result in harmful outcomes (and preexisting conditions as a result).

What of a baby born with defects sustained from inadequate prenatal care/coverage? That child will have a preexisting condition for the rest of their life.

On and on it goes.

These people are sick and twisted, and they’ll be looking to cut mental health coverage too.

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Dr. Matt  May 1, 2017 • 3:04:49pm

re: #233 Mike Lamb

Disavow “antifa”? I’m not overly familiar with all of my alt-right vernacular, but antifa = anti-fascism, yes? That’s a bad thing now?

Oh, and no Democrats are being asked to disavow the purported violence because they aren’t actively promoting it a la Trump.

Yes, antifa = anti-fascism.

Once again, I have no problem if others want to punch a Nazi.

THIS will never, ever get old: Image: punch.gif

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 3:04:51pm

#WINNING

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2017 • 3:04:59pm

re: #241 Blind Frog Belly White

Got a preexisting conditon? Apparently Mo Brooks thinks you brought it on yourself.

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These assholes don’t even fucking know how insurance works.

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 3:06:39pm

re: #249 darthstar

#WINNING

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Anyone want to bet there’s no vote this week?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 3:06:44pm

Things that help save my sanity: live streams by people who foster kittens.

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calochortus  May 1, 2017 • 3:06:48pm

re: #250 Eclectic Cyborg

These assholes don’t even fucking know how insurance works.

Oh, I think they know. They just don’t care, or aren’t fans of insurance for the peasants.

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 3:08:44pm

Ha! Wingnuts are wingnuts in any language…always stealing others’ words…

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 3:09:13pm
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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 3:09:58pm
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wrenchwench  May 1, 2017 • 3:10:02pm

re: #241 Blind Frog Belly White

Got a preexisting conditon? Apparently Mo Brooks thinks you brought it on yourself.

[reducing costs to those who lead good, healthy lives]

I was leading a good, healthy life right up until that car hit me. A few weeks later, I think I made a wise-ass comment here that I was the healthiest person in the rehab hospital, all but a few of the staff included.

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BeachDem  May 1, 2017 • 3:15:01pm

re: #96 Wile E. Coyote’s mom

medium.com

On the heels of Pepsi and NYT, we get another tone death commercial.

Not only stupid and simplistic, but incredibly boring (and stupid and simplistic)

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Jebediah, RBG  May 1, 2017 • 3:15:20pm

re: #157 nines09

Shit - where can I get spinning caps?
I KNEW it wasn’t years of practice + talent that made him the player he is.

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sagehen  May 1, 2017 • 3:15:45pm

re: #91 EPR-radar

The idea that a better president between Jackson and Lincoln could have prevented the civil war is asinine. IMO the US civil war was inevitable.

If Buchanan hadn’t been such a dipshit, there probably would have been a Civil War anyway, but it would have been a lot shorter and less bloody.

Example: when various Southern State militias announced their intention to take various US Military installations, Buchanan told the army to pull out and let them have it. Including the armories. When Southern States bought trainloads of weapons from Northern factories, and Pennsylvania or Ohio or New York units would have been delighted to be ordered to seize those trains, Buchanan thought it was better to let them continue on with their cargo. When half a dozen of West Point’s top instructors, including Robert E Lee, resigned their commissions and stated in their letters of resignation that they intended to return to Virginia, etc to defend their States… he let them go.

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goddamnedfrank  May 1, 2017 • 3:15:58pm

re: #256 darthstar

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I doubt this hurts her polling much. Le Pen voters are like Trump voters in that they expect their candidate to reflect their own utter lack of personal integrity. We’re dealing with gangs of racially revanchist evil little shits who deliberately digest and knowingly regurgitate blatant lies as a way of reinforcing their gang identity.

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 3:15:58pm

re: #233 Mike Lamb

Disavow “antifa”? I’m not overly familiar with all of my alt-right vernacular, but antifa = anti-fascism, yes? That’s a bad thing now?

Oh, and no Democrats are being asked to disavow the purported violence because they aren’t actively promoting it a la Trump.

To be more specific, antifa are usually the organized antifascist street movements.

This would give the taste:

en.wikipedia.org

Antifaschistische Aktion, Antifascistische Aktie, Antifascist Action or Antifascistisk Aktion — abbreviated as Antifa (German/Dutch/English) or AFA (Scandinavian) — is a far-left, extra-parliamentary, communist, anti-fascist network in Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Norway and the United States of America whose stated goal is to “smash fascism in all its forms”.[1] Some of its members are influenced by the theory of triple oppression, while others are influenced by liberation theology; its members oppose sexism, racism, and classism. The point of the organization is to exchange information and to coordinate activities between local groups.
The group’s activities have included handing out flyers, organizing demonstrations, direct action, and rioting. They believe that physical aggression and violence are necessary to achieve their goals, due to the violence and aggression minority groups face at the hands of fascists and the far-right. In line with their ideology, and as a consequence of being constantly monitored by the police, the group has no central authority. This means it has a flat organization consisting of many independent groupings, without a board or leader. AFA works with other anti-racist groups all over Europe.[2][3] It is also described as a heterogeneous group which in the 1940s was mostly made up of social democrats, communists, and progressive Christians.[4]

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 3:16:45pm
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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 3:17:36pm

Jim Wright (Stonekettle) has a new essay up, on why he thinks Donald Trump will hit his Waterloo with his supporters.

It started out with him taking a bicycle ride and just making observations about his town.

stonekettle.com

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bratwurst  May 1, 2017 • 3:18:09pm

Mo Brooks on #Trumpcare: people who “lead good lives” and do things “the right way” should pay less than those with pre-existing conditions.

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lawhawk  May 1, 2017 • 3:18:41pm

The GOP will stop at nothing to shift the costs and burdens from the rich on to everyone else, especially those least able to afford them. Tax cuts and giving companies tax breaks while employees are entitled to medically induced bankruptcies courtesy of insurance plans that provide a pittance thanks to Trump/GOP gutting coverage requirements across the board as insurers race to the bottom to see how they can maximize their profits while everyone else pays through the nose.

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 3:18:59pm

re: #248 Dr. Matt

Yes, antifa = anti-fascism.

I’m an anti-fascist but by no means I am or will ever be an antifa.

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Jay C  May 1, 2017 • 3:19:15pm

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sagehen  May 1, 2017 • 3:20:13pm

re: #95 Blind Frog Belly White

WRT the second, you might not want somebody marrying your daughter while still not wanting them to be bought and sold as property, to be raped, beaten, or killed with impunity.

You might not want somebody marrying your daughter while still not wanting his owner to compete on price with your company that has to pay workers a wage.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 3:20:51pm

re: #247 lawhawk

re: #250 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #253 calochortus

re: #257 wrenchwench

The thing is, they see insurance run by GOVERNMENT as inherently redistributive.

ALL insurance, or course, is redistributive, from those who DON’T make claims to those who DO. But they get stuck on the idea that it’s government doing it, and not a for-profit business.

WRT the idea that those with preexisting conditions bring it on themselves, when Mrs. FBW was diagnosed with Breast Cancer 12 years ago, she asked me what she’d done wrong? Was it too much fatty food as a teenager? Not enough exercise as a grown up?

I told her what she’d done that led to this was just to live. That’s all MOST people with preexisting conditions do - they live.

Me? Well apparently I chose my parents badly. I ended up with hypertension, like Mom. Like my brother who has eaten healthy crap for decades, who is slender as a reed, who walks miles a day.

The other brother? The one who never exercises, eats crappy food and drinks coffee like it was water? He didn’t get hypertension.

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Patricia Kayden  May 1, 2017 • 3:21:24pm

re: #19 jaunte

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Spinal Tap, Stonehenge.

In the deepest recesses of our imagination. Sure, Donnie. Whatever you say.

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BeachDem  May 1, 2017 • 3:22:36pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

An archdiocese severs ties with Girl Scouts and calls for a ban on cookie sales

The League of German American Girls is catchier.

From 2014

Want your daughter to learn all about camping, sewing and car repair, but with a heaping helping of Jesus? You could try to find a local Girl Scout troop with an especially Bible-thumping troop leader. Or you could just skip straight to the American Heritage Girls, conservative Christianity’s very own copycat…

A columnist at fire-breathingly conservative outlet Breitbart, recently cheered: “AMERICAN HERITAGE GIRLS OFFERS FAITH-BASED PATRIOTIC ALTERNATIVE TO DECAYING GIRL SCOUTS…”

The group was founded in 1995, when Girl Scouts began allowing members reciting the organization’s Promise to replace “in God” with alternatives like “Allah” or “my creator.” You know—dogs-and-cats-living-together level stuff.

jezebel.com

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Stanley Sea  May 1, 2017 • 3:24:12pm

re: #258 BeachDem

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goddamnedfrank  May 1, 2017 • 3:26:35pm

re: #262 Nyet

To be more specific, antifa are usually the organized antifascist street movements.

This would give the taste:

en.wikipedia.org

I sympathize with Antifa motives but it’s the organized part I’m probably never going to wrap my head around. Maybe it’s because I’m an introvert with severe trust issues but the idea of joining up with a bunch of other people to express our latent violent urges in a gross act of illegality is just anathema to how I roll. I can probably count the number of people I trust that much on one hand and the reason I trust them is because, like me, they have the wisdom not to cosign onto that kind of risky ass bullshit.

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wrenchwench  May 1, 2017 • 3:28:46pm

re: #270 Blind Frog Belly White

Me? Well apparently I chose my parents badly. I ended up with hypertension, like Mom. Like my brother who has eaten healthy crap for decades, who is slender as a reed, who walks miles a day.

The other brother? The one who never exercises, eats crappy food and drinks coffee like it was water? He didn’t get hypertension.

I was diagnosed with hypertension in that rehab hospital, but the info (and the prescription) got all lumped in a big pile and not seen for what it is until I shared that pile with my big-city neuro-doc, who more than once said, ‘You don’t know what this is?!?!’ Now I gotta talk to my PCP and see about another prescription. I barely qualify [140/84, did I type that right?]

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Jay C  May 1, 2017 • 3:28:54pm

re: #260 sagehen

If Buchanan hadn’t been such a dipshit, there probably would have been a Civil War anyway, but it would have been a lot shorter and less bloody.

Example: when various Southern State militias announced their intention to take various US Military installations, Buchanan told the army to pull out and let them have it. Including the armories. When Southern States bought trainloads of weapons from Northern factories, and Pennsylvania or Ohio or New York units would have been delighted to be ordered to seize those trains, Buchanan thought it was better to let them continue on with their cargo. When half a dozen of West Point’s top instructors, including Robert E Lee, resigned their commissions and stated in their letters of resignation that they intended to return to Virginia, etc to defend their States… he let them go.

Yes, but “Old Buck” was put up by the Democrats precisely because he was a dipshit: a respected veteran politician, and a thorough “doughface”: a Northerner completely sympathetic to the South and slavery. First, though the usual utter racism of the time, and secondly because he was sympathetic to various pro-slavery expansionist schemes (like seizing Cuba from Spain for a slave state: as outlined in the Ostend Manifesto), and championing the Lecompton Constitution for Kansas.

Buchanan has been universally ranked at or near to bottom of Presidential performance ratings: although Donald Trump is likely to come close…

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451_Montag  May 1, 2017 • 3:31:13pm

Breaking news!!!1!

Exclusive video of Fox news viewers after recent staff problems

Everybody Goes Outside Instead Of Watching Itchy And Scratchy - The Simpsons

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BeachDem  May 1, 2017 • 3:33:39pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

It seems to me that Trump has been doing a lot of interviews these days and saying stuff that seems totally off the top of his head, with no thought involved, almost as if nobody’s telling him anything, or if they are, it’s not sticking.

There’s the Andrew Jackson thing. And there’s the North Korea thing. And then there’s this:

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His administration was pushing the GOP leadership in the House to vote on this bill LAST WEEK, which Trump says THIS MORNING is ‘not in its final form’. It’s like he thinks that the bill is like a term sheet in a negotiation - get them to agree to it, and then your lawyers will hash it out.

If I were Paul Ryan, at this point I’d probably just stop whipping. What’s the point? Trump thinks he can just fix it afterwards.

On point after point, Trump says things in interviews that simply can’t be trusted. Not the factual things, which of course can’t be trusted, but the MAJOR POLICY issues! On top of that, his standard answer to anything he doesn’t understand is “We’re considering it” or “We’re looking into it”, which I guess he thinks conveys knowledgeable seriousness about a topic he just heard of, but which over time becomes a patently obvious dodge, but leads to crazy headlines.

Well, since yesterday he said (or, his mouth formed sort of words that sort of implied) that pre-existing (not pre-existing conditions, but just pre-existing in yamspeak) would be covered by what I think he was saying would be high-risk pools, that would or would not be administered by the states, I would say no—it will not be as good as Obamacare.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 3:35:56pm

re: #272 BeachDem

From 2014

Want your daughter to learn all about camping, sewing and car repair, but with a heaping helping of Jesus? You could try to find a local Girl Scout troop with an especially Bible-thumping troop leader. Or you could just skip straight to the American Heritage Girls, conservative Christianity’s very own copycat…

A columnist at fire-breathingly conservative outlet Breitbart, recently cheered: “AMERICAN HERITAGE GIRLS OFFERS FAITH-BASED PATRIOTIC ALTERNATIVE TO DECAYING GIRL SCOUTS…”

The group was founded in 1995, when Girl Scouts began allowing members reciting the organization’s Promise to replace “in God” with alternatives like “Allah” or “my creator.” You know—dogs-and-cats-living-together level stuff.

jezebel.com

I am seriously toying around with the idea of creating “Smart Scouts: Where Learning and Exploration Never Ends, and We All Are Valuable”.

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Skip Intro  May 1, 2017 • 3:36:18pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart

That’s just a hint to big banks that they need to up the level of payments coming in to the Trump Organization.

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Stanley Sea  May 1, 2017 • 3:36:18pm

Ross was in that fake situation room at Emoul-a-Lago

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 3:36:23pm
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calochortus  May 1, 2017 • 3:36:56pm

re: #270 Blind Frog Belly White

The thing is, they see insurance run by GOVERNMENT as inherently redistributive.

ALL insurance, or course, is redistributive, from those who DON’T make claims to those who DO. But they get stuck on the idea that it’s government doing it, and not a for-profit business.

WRT the idea that those with preexisting conditions bring it on themselves, when Mrs. FBW was diagnosed with Breast Cancer 12 years ago, she asked me what she’d done wrong? Was it too much fatty food as a teenager? Not enough exercise as a grown up?

I told her what she’d done that led to this was just to live. That’s all MOST people with preexisting conditions do - they live.

Me? Well apparently I chose my parents badly. I ended up with hypertension, like Mom. Like my brother who has eaten healthy crap for decades, who is slender as a reed, who walks miles a day.

The other brother? The one who never exercises, eats crappy food and drinks coffee like it was water? He didn’t get hypertension.

See? This has been a learning experience for you. In your next incarnation you’ll try to select your parents more carefully-relying less on the glamour and excitement and more on genetic soundness.

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sagehen  May 1, 2017 • 3:37:27pm

re: #247 lawhawk

Another dumbass GOPer who doesn’t get how insurance works, or how someone can get a preexisting condition.

I look forward to his explanation of why Stephen Hawking deserved his illness, and why the rest of society would have been better off letting him die from it.

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gocart mozart  May 1, 2017 • 3:38:28pm
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thedopefishlives  May 1, 2017 • 3:38:54pm

re: #284 sagehen

I look forward to his explanation of why Stephen Hawking deserved his illness, and why the rest of society would have been better off letting him die from it.

Stephen Hawking is a scientist. Humanity would be better off if they had more faith in God and less faith in science. QED.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 1, 2017 • 3:39:44pm

re: #103 Jack Burton

But, the Junior Anti-Sex League girl we know, is kinda like the antithesis of anti-sex…

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calochortus  May 1, 2017 • 3:40:01pm

re: #284 sagehen

I look forward to his explanation of why Stephen Hawking deserved his illness, and why the rest of society would have been better off letting him die from it.

And based on previous experience with really stupid people, how he would have been in terrible shape if he’d had to deal with socialized medicine…

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 3:41:25pm

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calochortus  May 1, 2017 • 3:46:08pm

re: #264 Anymouse

Jim Wright (Stonekettle) has a new essay up, on why he thinks Donald Trump will hit his Waterloo with his supporters.

It started out with him taking a bicycle ride and just making observations about his town.

stonekettle.com

I will say, from what I’ve read here and there, the wingnuts are Not Happy about the budget. I’m seeing a lot less of how clever Trump is, and how he’s playing nth dimensional chess and all that, and more out and out disappointment, along with a certain amount of “we just need to trust him.”

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Skip Intro  May 1, 2017 • 3:47:52pm

re: #219 Dr. Matt

Lumpy and O’Racist out at Fox in a course of 2 weeks. Wow. Finally some good news for 2017.

Don’t assume Lumpy is going anywhere. Where else could he get paid millions of dollars a year to fondle Trump’s balls? A White House gig won’t pay dick compared to what he makes from his TV/Radio shows.

I think we’ll always have Lumpy with us, on Fox.

Of course, I hope I’m completely wrong about all this.

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goddamnedfrank  May 1, 2017 • 3:47:57pm

The tweet pictured below was probably my favorite response, reads like it could be sarcasm but it’s genuine Trumper moral equivalency:

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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 3:49:14pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 3:50:35pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 1, 2017 • 3:51:47pm

re: #265 bratwurst

Mo Brooks on #Trumpcare: people who “lead good lives” and do things “the right way” should pay less than those with pre-existing conditions.

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I have come to believe that one requirement to be a Republican member of Congress and probably the Senate is to be a total sociopath. This is especially of anyone who is a member of the Freedom Caucus. Dickens’ “A Christmas Carol” was written for them but they likely still side with Scrooge before his redemption.

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thedopefishlives  May 1, 2017 • 3:52:02pm

re: #294 FormerDirtDart

What the…. WHY the… IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT, DON’T VOTE FOR IT! Don’t hope for someone else to fix it!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 3:52:48pm

re: #284 sagehen

I look forward to his explanation of why Stephen Hawking deserved his illness, and why the rest of society would have been better off letting him die from it.

Already addressed back in 2009:
voices.washingtonpost.com

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FormerDirtDart  May 1, 2017 • 3:53:14pm
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Timothy Watson  May 1, 2017 • 3:55:07pm

re: #265 bratwurst

Mo Brooks on #Trumpcare: people who “lead good lives” and do things “the right way” should pay less than those with pre-existing conditions.

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I guess I should pray the type 1 diabetes away.

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 3:55:17pm
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Targetpractice  May 1, 2017 • 3:56:03pm

re: #298 FormerDirtDart

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A move that screams “privilege”: Voting for a bill in the hopes that it will be “fixed” further down the line.

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steve_davis  May 1, 2017 • 3:57:08pm

re: #197 Blind Frog Belly White

I invented a new word on my ride yesterday: Exhauspiration. That’s the feeling you get when you hit the steepest pitch on a climb, you’re dripping with sweat, and you try to shift into your lowest gear only to discover you’re already there.

i’m getting that. or, what may be even worse, changing to the lower gear and having so little forward momentum that the whole system goes “ca-clunk!!!” during shifting, which is damned uncomfortable.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 1, 2017 • 3:57:37pm

re: #257 wrenchwench

Clearly you should have been ingesting tiny amounts of car to build up an immunity.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  May 1, 2017 • 3:58:33pm

I STAND BY NOTHING

Provides No Evidence (Pee-‘N-E) drops a truth bomb right before he drops the mic, yo.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 3:59:23pm

re: #296 thedopefishlives

What the…. WHY the… IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT, DON’T VOTE FOR IT! Don’t hope for someone else to fix it!

“Screw it. We’ll fix it in Post.”

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piratedan  May 1, 2017 • 3:59:23pm

re: #299 Timothy Watson

well… if we extrapolate this out… Mo Brooks is obviously an idiot who has no understanding of genetics, therefore, stupid people should not be allowed to run for office and help make laws for the good of the people, it’s simply unfair to smart people having idiots craft legislation and vote on laws…..

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 3:59:34pm

Libertarian writer now defending Donald Trump’s bizarre slavery comment (thread):

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 3:59:37pm

Another old-timer denier bites the dust. “Samuel Crowell” (real name: Alan Buel Kennady) has died. On April 1, too.

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KGxvi  May 1, 2017 • 4:00:09pm

re: #291 Skip Intro

Don’t assume Lumpy is going anywhere. Where else could he get paid millions of dollars a year to fondle Trump’s balls? A White House gig won’t pay dick compared to what he makes from his TV/Radio shows.

I think we’ll always have Lumpy with us, on Fox.

Of course, I hope I’m completely wrong about all this.

You’re thinking too short term. Lumpy could easily go be press secretary for a couple of years - he’ll get to yell at the press daily, and especially during the midterms. But then he can leave (because that’s a fairly high turnover gig in the WH as it is), and use his status to get an even bigger payday for his TV/Radio/podcast scamshows. Plus, he will also have an excuse to hire a ghostwriter for a memoir that the Heritage Foundation or some such group will pay for thousands of copies to give away to donors. And then there’s the increased speaker’s fees.

An 18-month internship is easily worth what he could make on the backend.

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calochortus  May 1, 2017 • 4:01:09pm

BBL

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thedopefishlives  May 1, 2017 • 4:03:00pm

re: #305 Blind Frog Belly White

“Screw it. We’ll fix it in Post.”

Yeah, in my line of work, if we said, “Oh, who cares, let it go to Production and somebody else will fix it,” I’d get fired.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:03:01pm

re: #300 Anymouse

I hate Illinois White House Nazis.

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KGxvi  May 1, 2017 • 4:03:17pm

re: #307 Anymouse

Libertarian writer now defending Donald Trump’s bizarre slavery comment (thread):

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There should be a link to her twitter feed on the urban dictionary definition of “glibertarian”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2017 • 4:03:43pm

re: #300 Anymouse

Wha…huh?

Is he suggesting there were good Nazis??

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2017 • 4:05:06pm

All of this Civil War stuff has gotten this clip stuck in my head all day:

Apu Citizenship Test

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 1, 2017 • 4:05:19pm

re: #314 Eclectic Cyborg

Given who is saying it, it’s sarcasm.

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 4:05:47pm

re: #316 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

And a she.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2017 • 4:06:33pm

The GOP is playing hot potato with the AHCA. Nobody wants to be the poor bastard who takes the blame when it fails.

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 4:07:28pm

re: #308 Nyet

Alan B. Kennady, 61, of Pen Argyl, PA, passed away Saturday, April 1, 2017, at his residence. Alan was born in San Francisco, CA, on May 5, 1955, a son of Gwendolyn (Vodvarka) Kennady, of Easton, PA, and the late Abner Buel Kennady, Jr. He was the husband of Jane L. (McMasters) Kennady. They celebrated their 20th wedding anniversary last September. Alan was employed as an actuary at SG Risk LLC., in Lyndhurst, NJ. Alan was also a former professor of history at Lafayette College in Easton, PA. He received his master’s degree in Eastern European history from Columbia University. Alan served in the U.S. Marine Corps, where he served two tours of duty. - See more at: obits.lehighvalleylive.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:08:20pm

re: #307 Anymouse

Libertarian writer now defending Donald Trump’s bizarre slavery comment (thread):

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I think this thread is going in circles. We should move to a new one before someone asks Sergey to define ‘Scientism’.

re: #59 Blind Frog Belly White

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Jebediah, RBG  May 1, 2017 • 4:08:21pm

re: #305 Blind Frog Belly White

I had someone say that to me a little while ago. My reply was “We ARE post!”

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BeachDem  May 1, 2017 • 4:08:52pm

re: #273 Stanley Sea

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:09:05pm

I was watching this trainwreck as it unfolded earlier today…Megan went off the rails a lot more than some of you realize:

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:09:06pm

re: #321 Jebediah, RBG

I had someone say that to me a little while ago. My reply was “We ARE post!”

“FUCK IT!!! WE’LL DO IT LIVE!!!”

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 4:09:24pm

re: #320 Blind Frog Belly White

I think this thread is going in circles. We should move to a new one before someone asks Sergey to define ‘Scientism’.

Eh?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:10:50pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was watching this trainwreck as it unfolded earlier today…Megan went off the rails a lot more than some of you realize:

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(((Megan McArdle)))

@asymmetricinfo

What interests me is “Why was the north willing to invade another country over slavery?” Mobilizing a huge population for altruism is rare.
12:34 PM - 1 May 2017

I had NO FREAKING IDEA that the Southern States were entirely “another country”….

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:10:51pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was watching this trainwreck as it unfolded earlier today…Megan went off the rails a lot more than some of you realize:

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I know. At first when I heard ABOUT the thread, I thought she was making a valid point, but stupidly. Turned out it was just a stupid point, made stupidly with a number of stupid points made during the discussion.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:11:59pm

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

(((Megan McArdle)))

@asymmetricinfo

What interests me is “Why was the north willing to invade another country over slavery?” Mobilizing a huge population for altruism is rare.
12:34 PM - 1 May 2017

I had NO FREAKING IDEA that the Southern States were entirely “another country”….

“Well, THERE’S your PROBLEM!!”

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piratedan  May 1, 2017 • 4:12:11pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

and someone hired her ass and armed her with a computer and bandwidth…. assume she’s finding out that there’s something worse than grammar nazi’s…. history harridans…

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Hecuba's daughter  May 1, 2017 • 4:12:17pm

re: #27 thecommodore

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This is good news, it seems to me. I figured Le Pen would close the gap once the finalists were determined, but the fact that she’s more than 19 points down with less than a week to go makes me cautiously optimistic.

Very cautiously optimistic considering how wrong the polls were on 11-8-16.

It’s not how wrong they were on 11/8/16 — after all there was only about a 2 point difference, which was accurately reflected in her winning the popular vote. The concern would be more a repeat of what happened in the Michigan primary: she was ahead by 20 points and then lost narrowly to Bernie. But that is not likely to recur with these polls. The situation is very different — but it is a warning.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:13:16pm

re: #329 piratedan

and someone hired her ass and armed her with a computer and bandwidth…. assume she’s finding out that there’s something worse than grammar nazi’s…. history harridans…

There was a time when stupidity was contrarian.

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BeachDem  May 1, 2017 • 4:13:39pm

re: #283 calochortus

See? This has been a learning experience for you. In your next incarnation you’ll try to select your parents more carefully-relying less on the glamour and excitement and more on genetic soundness.

I guess I’m totally screwed—my parents were clean-living, non-smoking, non-drinking folks and both died in their 60s—one from cancer/one from a heart attack.

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caseyjr  May 1, 2017 • 4:14:10pm

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

“Practicing homosexuals”

What kind of bizarro terminology is this??

Keep practicing until you’re ready for Carnegie Hall

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 4:15:07pm

re: #330 Hecuba’s daughter

Anything above 5% is too much. 40+% is a catastrophe, regardless of who wins.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:15:37pm

re: #332 BeachDem

I guess I’m totally screwed—my parents were clean-living, non-smoking, non-drinking folks and both died in their 60s—one from cancer/one from a heart attack.

but were they TrueBelieversTM?

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piratedan  May 1, 2017 • 4:16:04pm

re: #331 Blind Frog Belly White

we’re living in a time where it seems like Otto from a Fish called Wanda has somehow become a role model for Conservatives….

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 4:18:23pm

re: #314 Eclectic Cyborg

Wha…huh?

Is he suggesting there were good Nazis??

No, Rebecca is snarking.

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Barefoot Grin  May 1, 2017 • 4:18:54pm

re: #241 Blind Frog Belly White

Got a preexisting conditon? Apparently Mo Brooks thinks you brought it on yourself.

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Same as it ever was.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2017 • 4:18:55pm

re: #337 Anymouse

No, Rebecca is snarking.

Got it, thanks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:18:57pm

something is happening.
Tweets not by the yam are attempting to distract us from something…

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gocart mozart  May 1, 2017 • 4:19:24pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 1, 2017 • 4:19:29pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

Motherfuckers always pretend firing on Fort Sumter never happened.

Motherfuckers always pretend the “South” was a unified bloc that all wanted to leave the USA.

Motherfuckers always pretend that the Southern states hadn’t constructed a police state that targeted white people that objected to slavery.

Motherfuckers always pretend the Southern Unionists and the Free State of Jones weren’t a thing.

Or the motherfuckers are so fucking dumb they don’t know about any of this detail, yet are willing to talk about the Civil War on the basis of their sketchy, Vaseline-on-the-lens version of the Confederacy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:19:33pm

re: #332 BeachDem

I guess I’m totally screwed—my parents were clean-living, non-smoking, non-drinking folks and both died in their 60s—one from cancer/one from a heart attack.

One thing about putting together your family tree with the resources on ancestry.com is that you find out how old your ancestors were when they died. But I’m damned if I can see any pattern to it.

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 4:20:52pm

re: #332 BeachDem

I guess I’m totally screwed—my parents were clean-living, non-smoking, non-drinking folks and both died in their 60s—one from cancer/one from a heart attack.

I’ve already outlived all the men in my family as far back as anyone can remember, so I’m on borrowed time.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:21:10pm

re: #336 piratedan

we’re living in a time where it seems like Otto from a Fish called Wanda has somehow become a role model for Conservatives….

“Apes don’t read Philosophy!”

“Yes, Otto, they do. They just don’t understand it.”

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 4:23:21pm
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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 4:23:43pm

re: #343 Blind Frog Belly White

One thing about putting together your family tree with the resources on ancestry.com is that you find out how old your ancestors were when they died. But I’m damned if I can see any pattern to it.

I’d rather not give the Mormon church my information.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:26:03pm

re: #347 Anymouse

I’d rather not give the Mormon church my information.

You think they don’t already have it?
//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:26:20pm

re: #347 Anymouse

I’d rather not give the Mormon church my information.

well, you don’t have to worry about being cooperative with them.
If it’s public records, they have it and they will baptize your atheist corpse.

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wrenchwench  May 1, 2017 • 4:27:21pm
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piratedan  May 1, 2017 • 4:27:25pm

re: #345 Blind Frog Belly White

that’s why they’re informing everyone in the neighborhood about the secret debriefing of the KGB spy…. ///////////////////

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Barefoot Grin  May 1, 2017 • 4:28:48pm

Oops: as imagined by Alexandra Petri
Ken Burns on Trumps Civil War statement:

washingtonpost.com

Narrator: The Civil War, if you think about it, why?

Sad fiddle music begins to play.

(A series of clips: troops walking ashore on D-Day, an engraving of the Boston Massacre, Fort Sumter with “You’re Fired” on it.)

Jeff Sessions: (long silence) Well, there is one thing we know about the Civil War, and that is: A lot of people don’t approve of it. But it is where I got two of my middle names, so that is good at least.

Narrator: Why was there the Civil War? Why could that one not have been worked out?

(A portrait of Andrew Jackson.)

Narrator: Andrew Jackson could have stopped it. He was known for his “big heart,” and it was probably this tendency to get sad and even cry at the thought of injustice that is the reason we associate him with the Trail of Tears. He could have made a deal. He said.

Andrew Jackson: There’s no reason for this….

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2017 • 4:28:57pm

My paternal grandfather died of a heart attack at 74, my paternal grandmother died of heart and diabetes issues at 76. My paternal grandfather died from cancer at 88 and my paternal grandmother is still alive and is reasonable health at nearly 90 (her birthday is May 10). Both my parents are still alive and in decent health at 64.

I do know two of my great grandparents died in their 50s but I also had a great grandmother live to be 83.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:29:45pm

If LePen had any smarts, she’d say it was a technical glitch -
Fillon’s speech was still in the TelePrompTer’s buffer!

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 4:31:08pm

She is obviously a globalist puppet with same programming.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:32:38pm

changing things up…here’s the new veggie side dish I came up with Saturday night to go with BBQ ribs. Chickpeas, shaved Brussels spouts, shittake mushrooms, Vidalia onions, garlic and olive oil, with cumin and paprika. Oh, and a huge splash of lemon juice.

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 4:32:45pm

re: #348 Blind Frog Belly White

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

Will this stuff keep them away?

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 4:34:21pm

re: #357 Anymouse

Try? Yes, why not.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:35:12pm

re: #357 Anymouse

Will this stuff keep them away?

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Why not? It would keep me away, and I’m not even Mormon.

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Joe Bacon  May 1, 2017 • 4:36:07pm

re: #80 Unshaken Defiance

Well if the pounding of helicopter blades is any measure the march in LA is pretty big. CBS says 100,000 fwiw. They should go through Pershing square

We had to close our office down at 1230 Our office is right on Wilshire Boulevard and when I left at 1245 Wilshire was packed solid.

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wrenchwench  May 1, 2017 • 4:37:38pm

Neurergus crocatus: good at being cute, terrible at finding the food that’s RIGHT NEXT TO YOU

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:38:02pm

re: #357 Anymouse

Will this stuff keep them away?

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Not sure why that would be a Mormon repellent, but I’m really big on pickling stuff every harvest season, so I guess I’m covered.

OTOH, I really don’t care because when I’m dead, I’m dead so the Mormons can go ahead with whatever hocus pocus lets them rack up their afterlife brownie points.
(won’t THEY be surprised…)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 4:38:22pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

Om nom nom nom.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:39:24pm

re: #363 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Om nom nom nom.

And it’s just as tasty (if not moreso!) cold with a bit more lemon juice dashed upon it.

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Nyet  May 1, 2017 • 4:39:54pm

re: #361 wrenchwench

How do they survive?

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 4:40:03pm

re: #357 Anymouse

Will this stuff keep them away?

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Yes.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 4:40:13pm

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

And it’s just as tasty (if not moreso!) cold with a bit more lemon juice dashed upon it.

Dinner tonight here is quinoa salad. I may add some chickpeas and Brussels sprouts to it. We’ll see.

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wrenchwench  May 1, 2017 • 4:41:11pm

re: #365 Nyet

How do they survive?

I think the worms in the wild are more wiggly. Those just came out of the fridge.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:41:51pm

I think I understand a bit better why Trump doesn’t know why the Civil War happened, after reading this tweet:

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 4:41:57pm

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not sure why that would be a Mormon repellent, but I’m really big on pickling stuff every harvest season, so I guess I’m covered.

OTOH, I really don’t care because when I’m dead, I’m dead so the Mormons can go ahead with whatever hocus pocus lets them rack up their afterlife brownie points.
(won’t THEY be surprised…)

Well, we don’t have any Mormons around here, nor in my family at all, so I guess I don’t have to worry too much.

I could have my family hire Bill Maher if needed.

New Rule: Atheism is not a religion! Unbaptizes Mitt Romney’s Dead Father-In-Law!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:43:02pm

re: #367 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Dinner tonight here is quinoa salad. I may add some chickpeas and Brussels sprouts to it. We’ll see.

IMHO, you can never go wrong with chickpeas.
Brussels sprouts all depend on freshness.

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Patricia Kayden  May 1, 2017 • 4:43:34pm

re: #307 Anymouse

Libertarian writer now defending Donald Trump’s bizarre slavery comment (thread):

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Arghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope she’s being dragged in the replies to that asinine question. We already know why the U.S. went through a Civil War. So every time Trump asks a stupid question, Conservatives pundits have to play along to save him? Idiots all.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:44:04pm

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

IMHO, you can never go wrong with chickpeas.
Brussels sprouts all depend on freshness.

Challenge accepted!!!
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Skip Intro  May 1, 2017 • 4:44:22pm

re: #369 Blind Frog Belly White

I think I understand a bit better why Trump doesn’t know why the Civil War happened, after reading this tweet:

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Hasn’t that lazy slug Jared patched things up over there yet?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:44:51pm

re: #370 Anymouse

Well, we don’t have any Mormons around here, nor in my family at all, so I guess I don’t have to worry too much.

umm…you aren’t all that familiar with the Mormons baptizing the dead for extra points thing, are you?

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Patricia Kayden  May 1, 2017 • 4:45:15pm

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

Odd because they should be happy that it’s failing. It’s not good.

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wrenchwench  May 1, 2017 • 4:45:32pm

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

IMHO, you can never go wrong with chickpeas.
Brussels sprouts all depend on freshness.

Those purple worms would make the color scheme of your concoction better-looking.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:45:47pm

re: #374 Skip Intro

Hasn’t that lazy slug Jared patched things up over there yet?

I think he got distracted by solving the Opiod Epidemic. Probably why Trump’s inviting Duterte. They’re gonna clean up Appalachia.
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 4:46:09pm

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

IMHO, you can never go wrong with chickpeas.
Brussels sprouts all depend on freshness.

They’re shredded, which lets me get away with more, I think. Still, quinoa, red onion, chickpeas, bell pepper, feta cheese, olives…

I’m not sure they’ll fit. Planning a dressing of a combo of red wine and white balsamic vinegars with canola oil, probably, garlic powder, salt, pepper, maybe some basil and oregano… And garlic and artichoke Aidell’s sausages.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:46:17pm

re: #377 wrenchwench

Those purple worms would make the color scheme of your concoction better-looking.

I’m always all for color in concoctions.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 4:46:18pm

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

umm…you aren’t all that familiar with the Mormon baptizing the dead for extra points thing, are you?

That really is a creepy thing they do. I’m not religious at all but many of my ancestors undoubtly were. I apperciate the work the Mormons do with ancestral research but it’s upsetting that some of it is self serving.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:47:38pm

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

umm…you aren’t all that familiar with the Mormons baptizing the dead for extra points thing, are you?

Didn’t they do some mass post-mortem baptism of Holocaust victims a few years back? Crazy thing is, I bet they didn’t graspy why that wasn’t cool.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:48:41pm

re: #379 klys (maker of Silmarils)

They’re shredded, which lets me get away with more, I think. Still, quinoa, red onion, chickpeas, bell pepper, feta cheese, olives…

I’m not sure they’ll fit. Planning a dressing of a combo of red wine and white balsamic vinegars with canola oil, probably, garlic powder, salt, pepper, maybe some basil and oregano… And garlic and artichoke Aidell’s sausages.

OH! I forgot! When I plated everything, I fresh-shredded Parmesan on the veggie concoction.

I like your idea of garlic and artichoke Aidell’s sausages…I’ve got some of those out in the big freezer.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 1, 2017 • 4:48:42pm

re: #347 Anymouse

I’d rather not give the Mormon church my information.

Back in about 1980, my half-brother in California was a recent convert to Mormonism. One evening I was talking to him long distance and he asked me if I would at least be willing to receive some information about his new church. I said sure, I’ll look at it, expecting a pamphlet in the mail or something. Instead, two well-scrubbed Mormon missionaries showed up AT MY DOOR IN LUBBOCK , 1100 miles away, within the hour. I thought yikes, that is some seriously efficient prospecting. I heard them out, they gave me my own copy of the Book of Mormon (that I still have) and that was that. Today it would be child’s play to arrange this; but back then it would have taken at least several phone calls, each to someone who knew exactly to whom they should pass the information.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 4:49:11pm

re: #382 Blind Frog Belly White

Didn’t they do some mass post-mortem baptism of Holocaust victims a few years back? Crazy thing is, I bet they didn’t graspy why that wasn’t cool.

I believe they did Anne Frank. I have a problem with it even though as I said I’m not religious at all, the people who they’re baptizing had their own beliefs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:49:23pm

re: #382 Blind Frog Belly White

Didn’t they do some mass post-mortem baptism of Holocaust victims a few years back? Crazy thing is, I bet they didn’t graspy why that wasn’t cool.

yes, they did

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lawhawk  May 1, 2017 • 4:49:44pm

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

The GOP is playing hot potato with the AHCA. Nobody wants to be the poor bastard who takes the blame when it fails.

When it fails again.

The House GOPers want to punt the issue to the Senate, so they get to spread the blame, and then they’ll move on to version 3, which is no less destructive than the prior two iterations.

King’s particularly craven. He says he’s worried about those who have coverage via Medicaid expansion, but he’s not lifting a finger to protect them. Rather, he’s punting.

He’s not alone.

There are other GOPers who know, or have reason to know how they’re willing to fuck over their constituents, and they don’t care. They want to push these extreme changes to a program that works all to sabotage it in ways that will leave millions uninsured and cost everyone far more than they’re paying now.

The only ones who come out ahead? The rich. Everyone else gets screwed.

So why are the GOP doing this? Well, they clearly don’t understand how insurance works - from policy “wonk” Ryan on down. None of them do.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 1, 2017 • 4:49:55pm

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

OH! I forgot! When I plated everything, I fresh-shredded Parmesan on the veggie concoction.

I like your idea of garlic and artichoke Aidell’s sausages…I’ve got some of those out in the big freezer.

I love tossing those into the salad meals. Adds protein, makes it complete, slice them up and easy leftovers.

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 4:50:42pm

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

umm…you aren’t all that familiar with the Mormons baptizing the dead for extra points thing, are you?

Well, they’d have to know who I am first.

Moreover, when I’m dead I doubt I’d notice.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 4:51:19pm

Need to find a good non meat protein for lunch tomorrow. HAve the day off. Makes me wish there were a falafel joint in town.

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wrenchwench  May 1, 2017 • 4:51:55pm

re: #389 Anymouse

Moreover Moreunder, when I’m dead I doubt I’d notice.

FTFY

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lawhawk  May 1, 2017 • 4:52:41pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

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thedopefishlives  May 1, 2017 • 4:52:44pm

re: #390 HappyWarrior

Need to find a good non meat protein for lunch tomorrow. HAve the day off. Makes me wish there were a falafel joint in town.

Ooooh, that sounds good. I may have to do that tomorrow. There’s a place nearby - it’s a chain, not the best, but it’ll do. Although I’m having a craving for Indian food lately; it’s one of my favorites, and we haven’t made it or gone out for it in a while.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 4:53:42pm

re: #393 thedopefishlives

Ooooh, that sounds good. I may have to do that tomorrow. There’s a place nearby - it’s a chain, not the best, but it’ll do. Although I’m having a craving for Indian food lately; it’s one of my favorites, and we haven’t made it or gone out for it in a while.

We do have a pupasa place. Maybe i’ll treat myself after the gym.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:54:00pm

re: #385 HappyWarrior

I believe they did Anne Frank. I have a problem with it even though as I said I’m not religious at all, the people who they’re baptizing had their own beliefs.

Well, as an atheist, I don’t have a god in this fight (hehehe), so while I understand just how upset the victims families would be, to me it just seemed really weird, and really stupid.

It’s like when believers tell me they’ll pray for me - “Great. have fun with that. Knock yourself out.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:54:03pm

re: #389 Anymouse

Well, they’d have to know who I am first.

Moreover, when I’m dead I doubt I’d notice.

You obviously missed the part when I mentioned “public records”.

They do not have to know you personally.

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b.d.  May 1, 2017 • 4:54:19pm

Hahahahahahaha:

Last one out burn the place to the ground…

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 4:54:41pm

re: #395 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, as an atheist, I don’t have a god in this fight (hehehe), so while I understand just how upset the victims families would be, to me it just seemed really weird, and really stupid.

It’s like when believers tell me they’ll pray for me - “Great. have fun with that. Knock yourself out.”

Right.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 4:55:13pm

re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth

You obviously missed the part when I mentioned “public records”.

They do not have to know you personally.

They have in fact baptized people who have been deceased for generations.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 4:55:31pm

re: #397 b.d.

Hahahahahahaha:

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Last one out burn the place to the ground…

NOw if only NRO can close down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 4:55:34pm

re: #397 b.d.

Hahahahahahaha:

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Last one out burn the place to the ground…

#FyreFest !!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hecuba's daughter  May 1, 2017 • 4:56:11pm

re: #387 lawhawk

When it fails again.

The House GOPers want to punt the issue to the Senate, so they get to spread the blame, and then they’ll move on to version 3, which is no less destructive than the prior two iterations.

King’s particularly craven. He says he’s worried about those who have coverage via Medicaid expansion, but he’s not lifting a finger to protect them. Rather, he’s punting.

He’s not alone.

There are other GOPers who know, or have reason to know how they’re willing to fuck over their constituents, and they don’t care. They want to push these extreme changes to a program that works all to sabotage it in ways that will leave millions uninsured and cost everyone far more than they’re paying now.

The only ones who come out ahead? The rich. Everyone else gets screwed.

So why are the GOP doing this? Well, they clearly don’t understand how insurance works - from policy “wonk” Ryan on down. None of them do.

Let’s not be totally sanguine about this. What if it passes the House this time and that d*k Mitch McConnell decides to eliminate the filibuster? The only hope is that enough representatives are afraid of losing their seat if it passes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 4:57:29pm

re: #399 HappyWarrior

They have in fact baptized people who have been deceased for generations.

At least they don’t feel the need to do it in person.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 4:58:50pm

re: #403 Blind Frog Belly White

At least they don’t feel the need to do it in person.

HEh true, I’d be pissed if someone tried to baptize me against my will.

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Skip Intro  May 1, 2017 • 5:01:50pm

re: #397 b.d.

Hahahahahahaha:

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Last one out burn the place to the ground…

Just making room for the new breed of Fox “personalities”. Mike Cernovitch, Milo, Charles C. Johnson, The Gateway Pundit, the possibilities are endless. Plus they’ll all work for peanuts.

Fox isn’t going to get better. It can’t. But it can get worse.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2017 • 5:01:52pm

re: #404 HappyWarrior

HEh true, I’d be pissed if someone tried to baptize me against my will.

Well, I was thinking of the post mortem baptisms.

You could picture Mormon Baptism Crews - pairs of young men in white shirts with ties. Each with a shovel and a bottle of water….

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:02:17pm

re: #406 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, I was thinking of the post mortem baptisms.

You could picture Mormon Baptism Crews - pairs of young men in white shirts with ties. Each with a shovel and a bottle of water….

Yeah I just realize what oyu meant there ha!

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 5:02:34pm

re: #404 HappyWarrior

HEh true, I’d be pissed if someone tried to baptize me against my will.

That would probably cause me to bring out my shotgun.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:03:12pm

re: #405 Skip Intro

Just making room for the new breed of Fox “personalities”. Mike Cernovitch, Milo, Charles C. Johnson, The Gateway Pundit, the possibilities are endless. Plus they’ll all work for peanuts.

Fox isn’t going to get better. It can’t. But it can get worse.

Crowder. I definitely think Fox will want to get someone younger.

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Joe Bacon  May 1, 2017 • 5:03:48pm

re: #399 HappyWarrior

They have in fact baptized people who have been deceased for generations.

Yes and some families are PISSED at them for doing that. Rod Roddenberry for one when he found out the Mormon Church baptized his dad. Nevermind that Gene was a secular humanist…

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:04:38pm

re: #410 Joe Bacon

Yes and some families are PISSED at them for doing that. Rod Roddenberry for one when he found out the Mormon Church baptized his dad. NEvermind that Gene was a secular humanist…

They should be pissed.Respect the departed’s beliefs or lack of.

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Skip Intro  May 1, 2017 • 5:05:48pm

re: #409 HappyWarrior

Crowder. I definitely think Fox will want to get someone younger.

There are so many to choose from.

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lawhawk  May 1, 2017 • 5:07:29pm

re: #402 Hecuba’s daughter

When the whips want no part of the bill the party’s putting forward, that’s not a good sign for Trump/Ryan.

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thedopefishlives  May 1, 2017 • 5:08:21pm

re: #413 lawhawk

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When the whips want no part of the bill the party’s putting forward, that’s not a good sign for Trump/Ryan.

The problem is all of the undecideds that are “leaning yes”. We need people to call their asses and tell them in no uncertain terms that they had damn well better vote NO or there will be consequences.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:08:24pm

re: #413 lawhawk

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When the whips want no part of the bill the party’s putting forward, that’s not a good sign for Trump/Ryan.

HA.

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lawhawk  May 1, 2017 • 5:08:43pm

re: #409 HappyWarrior

Jimmy O’Keefe. Because of course…

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:09:32pm

re: #416 lawhawk

Jimmy O’Keefe. Because of course…

Oh yes for “investigatory journalism.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2017 • 5:09:34pm

re: #397 b.d.

Hahahahahahaha:

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Last one out burn the place to the ground…

We don’t need no water…

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 1, 2017 • 5:11:03pm

Oh man, CCJ on Fox? That would be an epic fail.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:11:41pm

re: #419 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh man, CCJ on Fox? That would be an epic fail.

I’d love to see him drunkingly attempt to hit on the women there.

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thedopefishlives  May 1, 2017 • 5:12:43pm

re: #419 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh man, CCJ on Fox? That would be an epic fail.

I’ll admit it - I would watch just to see the fucker crash and burn on live television. Nielsen ratings be damned, it’d be fucking hilarious.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:13:38pm

i do think CCJ would be too toxic even for Fox but who knows. They have to know how much big this alt-right stuff is with the conservative youth.

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b.d.  May 1, 2017 • 5:15:10pm

re: #419 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh man, CCJ on Fox? That would be an epic fail.

The Ginger Power Hour? No way!! It’d be a hit!

I’d love to be behind the scenes watching the minor league winguts trying to get on FoxNews. I don’t even want to imagine in what way Ben Shapiro has groveled.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:16:35pm

re: #423 b.d.

The Ginger Power Hour? No way!! It’d be a hit!

I’d love to be behind the scenes watching the minor league winguts trying to get on FoxNews. I don’t even want to imagine in what way Ben Shapiro has groveled.

Man I am so glad that I don’t have to see Shapiro’s crap anymore. My one wingnut friend would post his crap al lthe time insisting that Baby Benny was “destroying” people but all I saw was Isaac from Children of the Corn being a dick.

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thedopefishlives  May 1, 2017 • 5:18:09pm

re: #424 HappyWarrior

Man I am so glad that I don’t have to see Shapiro’s crap anymore. My one wingnut friend would post his crap al lthe time insisting that Baby Benny was “destroying” people but all I saw was Isaac from Children of the Corn being a dick.

Thankfully, Ben of the Corn doesn’t make appearances on my Facebook feed. Most of my friends share Ben Crowder.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:19:19pm

re: #425 thedopefishlives

Thankfully, Ben of the Corn doesn’t make appearances on my Facebook feed. Most of my friends share Ben Crowder.

STeve Crowder you mean or is this someone else? Either way, can’t stand any of those guys. They’re both so unnecessarily pompous.

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BeachDem  May 1, 2017 • 5:19:45pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

but were they TrueBelieversTM?

Well, they were Jewish, so yes and no. (I’m guessing that trademarked TrueBelievers must be of the Christianist variety, no?)

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Shiplord Kirel  May 1, 2017 • 5:20:02pm

I wonder what my Irish cannibal ancestors would think of the Mormons who want to baptize them.
“Mmmm, fat; and healthy too. Time for a feast.”

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:20:38pm

re: #428 Shiplord Kirel

I wonder what my Irish cannibal ancestors would think of the Mormons who want to baptize them.
“Mmmm, fat; and healthy too. Time for a feast.”

Ha!

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thedopefishlives  May 1, 2017 • 5:21:31pm

re: #426 HappyWarrior

STeve Crowder you mean or is this someone else? Either way, can’t stand any of those guys. They’re both so unnecessarily pompous.

Yes, I made a mistake. I kept hiding the posts so he hasn’t shown up for a while, so I forgot his first name.

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BeachDem  May 1, 2017 • 5:21:54pm

re: #336 piratedan

we’re living in a time where it seems like Otto from a Fish called Wanda has somehow become a role model for Conservatives….

Just because I love this exchange so very much:

Otto West: Don’t call me stupid.

Wanda: Oh, right! To call you stupid would be an insult to stupid people! I’ve known sheep that could outwit you. I’ve worn dresses with higher IQs. But you think you’re an intellectual, don’t you, ape?

Otto West: Apes don’t read philosophy.

Wanda: Yes they do, Otto. They just don’t understand it. Now let me correct you on a couple of things, OK? Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not “Every man for himself.” And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked them up.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:23:09pm

re: #430 thedopefishlives

Yes, I made a mistake. I kept hiding the posts so he hasn’t shown up for a while, so I forgot his first name.

Yeah my one friend likes him too. One of my distant cousins posted his May Day screed today. i find it pretty funny that a guy who made his first dime at PBS (he was on Arthur) complains about socialism being evil.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:23:30pm

Oh and OT bu tman I love the show Fargo. Season 3 iws great.

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Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 5:24:53pm

patribotics.blog

It would appear that Sean Spicer, back in January when he tweeted n9y25ah7 was not tweeting a password. It was a Bitcoin address.

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jaunte  May 1, 2017 • 5:25:32pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 1, 2017 • 5:26:06pm

What a great march, had a wonderful time. Met some good people. Got a few decent shots of the faces and the crowd. Paged as Faces Of Loyal Opposition

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 5:26:16pm
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MsJ  May 1, 2017 • 5:26:33pm

re: #118 Anymouse

Slate takes down Bret Stephen’s climate denialism in his New York Times article.
slate.com

Programming note for Mr. Stephens: There is no such thing as “scientism,” which your copy of Microsoft Word would have hit if you typed it, you hack. Science is not an ideology, no matter how many religious and conservative people say it is.

I just cancelled my subscription to the NYT. I told the guy I was very sad to be doing so but I can’t waste my time discerning truth from bullshit and the NYT, is or was, the best paper in the planet.

He told me a lot of people were cancelling their subscriptions over this.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:26:35pm

re: #435 jaunte

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More comomn than ti should be.

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lawhawk  May 1, 2017 • 5:26:57pm

Aw damn…. I was hoping for a run on popcorn.

Tomi Lahren settles with The Blaze.

Under the settlement, Lahren is formally released from her contract with The Blaze and will be allowed to keep the Facebook page connected to her time as a pundit for the company, which has nearly 4.3 million followers. She will return all of “intellectual property” belonging to The Blaze that was posted on the Facebook page.

“Ms. Lahren is relieved to have this litigation behind her and she looks forward to connecting with her audience and fan base on the pressing political issues facing our country in the days to come,” Lahren’s attorney, Brian Lauten, said in a statement.

“The Blaze is pleased to announce that the relationship with Tomi Lahren has concluded,” the company said in a statement. “Ms. Lahren will continue to have access to her social media accounts as has always been the case.”

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BeachDem  May 1, 2017 • 5:27:03pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

changing things up…here’s the new veggie side dish I came up with Saturday night to go with BBQ ribs. Chickpeas, shaved Brussels spouts, shittake mushrooms, Vidalia onions, garlic and olive oil, with cumin and paprika. Oh, and a huge splash of lemon juice.

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Sounds good—except for the chickpeas, Brussels sprouts, onions and garlic.
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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:27:15pm

re: #437 darthstar

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She’s absolutely right.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  May 1, 2017 • 5:27:50pm

re: #405 Skip Intro

Just making room for the new breed of Fox “personalities”. Mike Cernovitch, Milo, Charles C. Johnson, The Gateway Pundit, the possibilities are endless. Plus they’ll all work for peanuts.

Fox isn’t going to get better. It can’t. But it can get worse.

Can’t wait until it’s retooled to the Actualmerica Fuckingirst Nazisetwork

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darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 5:28:12pm

re: #442 HappyWarrior

She’s absolutely right.

Hopefully more foreign leaders will speak up. God knows our own won’t.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:28:40pm

re: #440 lawhawk

Aw damn…. I was hoping for a run on popcorn.

Tomi Lahren settles with The Blaze.

I can’t stand her but the way tehy treated her was pathetic. And these are the same conesrvatives who accuse people of being intolerant to their views. When a person opposed to legalized abortion asked a question at the town hall I went to for Perriello the other night, he was treated respectfully.

446
lawhawk  May 1, 2017 • 5:29:22pm

Meanwhile, Hannity’s supposedly exploring different options, including joining up with another right wing extremist outfit because Fox is now seen as too left wing. Allegedly, the new network/outfit is trying to lure Hannity away from Fox.

Last one out, trip the breakers, open the gas mains, and light up the thermite.

447
HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:29:29pm

re: #444 darthstar

Hopefully more foreign leaders will speak up. God knows our own won’t.

I hope so too. It’s a joke that Ivanka and her goofy mug are always at important FP events.

448
jaunte  May 1, 2017 • 5:30:07pm

re: #446 lawhawk

449
HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:30:17pm

re: #446 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Hannity’s supposedly exploring different options, including joining up with another right wing extremist outfit because Fox is now seen as too left wing. Allegedly, the new network/outfit is trying to lure Hannity away from Fox.

Last one out, trip the breakers, open the gas mains, and light up the thermite.

Wait there’s anotehr network? And they say we need safe spaces.

450
Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 5:30:18pm

re: #446 lawhawk

Is he looking to take Tomi’s position?

451
thedopefishlives  May 1, 2017 • 5:30:50pm

re: #449 HappyWarrior

Wait there’s anotehr network? And they say we need safe spaces.

Remember gab.ai?

452
BeachDem  May 1, 2017 • 5:31:15pm

re: #381 HappyWarrior

That really is a creepy thing they do. I’m not religious at all but many of my ancestors undoubtly were. I apperciate the work the Mormons do with ancestral research but it’s upsetting that some of it is self serving.

The Holocaust dead that the Mormons go after really creeps me out—how many times have they tried to post-death baptize Anne Frank?

453
HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:31:23pm

re: #451 thedopefishlives

Remember gab.ai?

No.

454
thedopefishlives  May 1, 2017 • 5:32:30pm

re: #453 HappyWarrior

No.

Bunch of alt-right loons got fed up with the “censorship” on Twitter, so they formed their own fucking social network. And they think we’re fragile little snowflakes.

455
Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 5:32:58pm

re: #445 HappyWarrior

I can’t stand her but the way tehy treated her was pathetic. And these are the same conesrvatives who accuse people of being intolerant to their views. When a person opposed to legalized abortion asked a question at the town hall I went to for Perriello the other night, he was treated respectfully.

I have little sympathy to give her. She knew the ideological bent of The Blaze when she signed up to be their propagandist.

The right wing constantly whinges about PC speech, but it is really the right wing that demands it. The instant she chose to weigh in on abortion that deviated the slightest from right wing ideology, they wanted to burn the witch.

She’s done it enough times on her show to others. I have no sympathy that the baying mob turned on her, as often as she turned it on others.

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MsJ  May 1, 2017 • 5:33:05pm

re: #159 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, but don’t you get the sense that this is not the definition that Stephens means when HE says ‘Scientism’? That what HE means is more along the lines of Anymouse’s #155?

Similarly, see Truthiness.

457
darthstar  May 1, 2017 • 5:33:12pm

re: #451 thedopefishlives

Remember gab.ai?

Has Rage Furby been banned from that site too?

458
HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:33:14pm

re: #454 thedopefishlives

Bunch of alt-right loons got fed up with the “censorship” on Twitter, so they formed their own fucking social network. And they think we’re fragile little snowflakes.

Hahahahha what a bunch of fucking loesrs.

459
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 5:34:05pm

re: #441 BeachDem

Sounds good—except for the chickpeas, Brussels sprouts, onions and garlic.
//

really…you have no idea how good it actually tastes.

460
thedopefishlives  May 1, 2017 • 5:34:06pm

re: #457 darthstar

Has Rage Furby been banned from that site too?

Hell, he’s probably gotten his coveted blue checkmark over there.

461
b.d.  May 1, 2017 • 5:34:49pm

re: #449 HappyWarrior

Wait there’s anotehr network? And they say we need safe spaces.

They were going to start TrumpNews but he screwed up and one somehow.

I can see Bannon exiting and starting a new Trump slobbering news network somehow, miraculously, overnight.

462
ObserverArt  May 1, 2017 • 5:35:34pm

re: #438 MsJ

I just cancelled my subscription to the NYT. I told the guy I was very sad to be doing so but I can’t waste my time discerning truth from bullshit and the NYT, is or was, the best paper in the planet.

He told me a lot of people were cancelling their subscriptions over this.

Good!

After reading this thread through I can’t come up with much more as a response.

Sometimes I get too weighed down to the point of being stunned by both the ignorance and intellectual dishonesty going on these days. At that point there really isn’t much you can say because all seems useless as none of the people responsible are going to listen or change.

463
Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 5:35:56pm

re: #456 MsJ

Similarly, see Truthiness.

Similar to the disingenuous use of the word “theory.”

464
HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:39:35pm

re: #461 b.d.

They were going to start TrumpNews but he screwed up and one somehow.

I can see Bannon exiting and starting a new Trump slobbering news network somehow, miraculously, overnight.

Wouldn’t surprise me. Fox is more corporate and Bannon’s style is more “populist.”

465
Anymouse  May 1, 2017 • 5:41:42pm

re: #464 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t surprise me. Fox is more corporate and Bannon’s style is more “populist.”

Maybe Hannity will go to MSNBC, home for FOX castoffs.

466
MsJ  May 1, 2017 • 5:41:51pm

re: #219 Dr. Matt

Lumpy and O’Racist out at Fox in a course of 2 weeks. Wow. Finally some good news for 2017.

It’s been two years coming for that good news.

467
HappyWarrior  May 1, 2017 • 5:42:18pm

re: #465 Anymouse

Maybe Hannity will go to MSNBC, home for FOX castoffs.

Nah.

468
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2017 • 5:43:48pm

re: #408 Anymouse

That would probably cause me to bring out my shotgun.

Mormons only baptize the non-Mormon dead.

So make sure you have your shotgun buried with you.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 1, 2017 • 6:24:56pm

re: #446 lawhawk

light up the thermite

Thermite (aka Nitro-9)-the favorite tool of mischief and mayhem for the Seventh Doctor’s plucky Companion, Ace!


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