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S'latch  May 3, 2017 • 11:50:58am

Trump is now going to make peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians and it’s going to be a lot easier than anyone thought because they really don’t have anything to fight about. Who knew?

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lawhawk  May 3, 2017 • 11:53:33am

re: #1 S’latch

Anwar Sadat and Yitzhak Rabin couldn’t be reached for comment.

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2017 • 11:55:09am

He’ll bring them all together for high-level talks at the Trump Hotel, DC.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2017 • 11:55:49am

re: #3 Barefoot Grin

Remember, free continental breakfast before 9am. /

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2017 • 11:59:58am

re: #4 lawhawk

Remember, free continental breakfast before 9am. /

Does Camp David have that? No, Camp David does not have that!

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2017 • 12:04:26pm

How.Fucking.Convenient.

@tommyxtopher
This is ridiculous. Sean Spicer literally had slideshow ready for Breitbart reporter’s question. “You knew…” Spicer says, then backtracks

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calochortus  May 3, 2017 • 12:04:59pm

re: #4 lawhawk

Remember, free continental breakfast before 9am. /

I doubt anything is free at a Trump establishment.

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S'latch  May 3, 2017 • 12:05:45pm

re: #2 lawhawk

Trump’s attempts to mediate something between the Israelis and Palestinians will likely result very directly in a spate of terrorism and some heavy-handed reprisals and nothing positive. But, I will hope for the best which is probably just that no one gets killed.

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Belafon  May 3, 2017 • 12:05:56pm

Charles (in case you didn’t see this last thread),

An updated on my investigation on why I have trouble with LGF in Invincea. I am having trouble on this page (the reply and quote buttons don’t work, and when I post a comment it takes me back to the front page). The current page works, as do all of the pages up until the previous Bob Cesca Show page. The good pages contain either pictures or Youtube videos. The pages I’m having trouble with have embedded audio.

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Stanley Sea  May 3, 2017 • 12:06:53pm

Apparently there’s a google docs phishing email going around.

I just got it on my work email.

Saw a reporter talking about receiving it.

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Romantic Heretic  May 3, 2017 • 12:08:42pm

re: #6 Dr. Matt

And with that I’m for housework. If I read any more about the yam and his minions I’ll get angry.

You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry.

Hulk Hilary vs trump

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2017 • 12:09:46pm

Ugggghhhhhhh

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Flying Squirrel Girl  May 3, 2017 • 12:10:06pm

re: #9 Belafon

I have the same issue but hadn’t narrowed it down to the embedded audio as the culprit. This thread works fine for me too.

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KGxvi  May 3, 2017 • 12:12:11pm

re: #1 S’latch

Trump is now going to make peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians and it’s going to be a lot easier than anyone thought because they really don’t have anything to fight about. Who knew?

I’ve a hunch that Trump thinks it’s easy because he sees it as essentially a real estate deal - two groups want the same piece of land. But he’s going to learn rather quickly (say a ten minute talk with anyone) that he can’t squeeze a higher price from one side or the other

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 3, 2017 • 12:17:48pm

re: #13 Flying Squirrel Girl

I have the same issue but hadn’t narrowed it down to the embedded audio as the culprit. This thread works fine for me too.

I just IP block anything that’s offensive to the nannyware here in my Hosts file, and then LGF works fine, but we’re on a different system than yours. For me the problem is just a guy who’s gotten into the habit of posting pictures of his meals stored on a banned site.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 3, 2017 • 12:18:54pm

re: #14 KGxvi

I’ve a hunch that Trump thinks it’s easy because he sees it as essentially a real estate deal - two groups want the same piece of land. But he’s going to learn rather quickly (say a ten minute talk with anyone) that he can’t squeeze a higher price from one side or the other

And then he’ll talk about how much more difficult it turned out to be than he had imagined. The lesson he learns will not be applied to the next challenge he underestimates because of his disability.

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2017 • 12:22:16pm

Another blow to the Orange BLOTUS

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KGxvi  May 3, 2017 • 12:30:24pm

re: #16 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

And then he’ll talk about how much more difficult it turned out to be than he had imagined. The lesson he learns will not be applied to the next challenge he underestimates because of his disability.

You would think, after his interview where he said the job is a lot harder than he thought it would be, that he’d realize all of this shit is complicated. But then again, he really is Humpty Dumpty:

Wingnut Logic
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2017 • 12:30:32pm
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Stanley Sea  May 3, 2017 • 12:30:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2017 • 12:32:35pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2017 • 12:38:16pm
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lawhawk  May 3, 2017 • 12:40:09pm

Hope that someone distinguishes that Wikileaks aren’t journalists and aren’t held to any of those standards. They’re a front group for Russian agitprop and espionage.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 3, 2017 • 12:44:02pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

Notice also that it says “New” Media instead of “News.” ROFLMAO!

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calochortus  May 3, 2017 • 12:48:46pm

re: #24 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Notice also that it says “New” Media instead of “News.” ROFLMAO!

He might have intended that to indicate the new forms of media (as in no one hired him to give his opinions, but the internet is open to all) rather than news media.

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KGxvi  May 3, 2017 • 12:48:53pm

re: #24 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Notice also that it says “New” Media instead of “News.” ROFLMAO!

“New Media” was what we were calling blogs 10-14 years ago, no? I mean, it’s not even new anymore.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2017 • 12:48:59pm

re: #24 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Notice also that it says “New” Media instead of “News.” ROFLMAO!

Alt-News

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Bubblehead II  May 3, 2017 • 12:50:38pm

re: #23 lawhawk

Hope that someone distinguishes that Wikileaks aren’t journalists and aren’t held to any of those standards. They’re a front group for Russian agitprop and espionage.

Comey basically called them purveyors of intelligence porn with no journalistic value.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 3, 2017 • 12:50:44pm

re: #25 calochortus

He might have intended that to indicate the new forms of media (as in no one hired him to give his opinions, but the internet is open to all) rather than news media.

Yeah, that’s the ticket!

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calochortus  May 3, 2017 • 12:51:36pm

re: #29 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

You’d think he could have picked something a bit more attractive as an award statue, though.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 3, 2017 • 12:52:25pm

re: #25 calochortus

He might have intended that to indicate the new forms of media (as in no one hired him to give his opinions, but the internet is open to all) rather than news media.

Notice that what he posted of his speech says “Real News.”

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Skip Intro  May 3, 2017 • 12:57:22pm

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unproven innocence  May 3, 2017 • 1:00:29pm

re: #32 Skip Intro

“The table has to go.” (table label: reality)

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2017 • 1:00:31pm

Another dispatch from Trump’s America. Protestor is convicted in D.C. for laughing at Jeff Sessions during his confirmation hearing.

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allegro  May 3, 2017 • 1:02:42pm

re: #34 Big Beautiful Door

Another dispatch from Trump’s America. Protestor is convicted in D.C. for laughing at Jeff Sessions during his confirmation hearing.

How is that not unconstitutional af? Like by definition.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2017 • 1:03:31pm

re: #35 allegro

How is that not unconstitutional af? Like by definition.

“Disorderly Conduct.” We will have order!

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Belafon  May 3, 2017 • 1:04:18pm

re: #35 allegro

How is that not unconstitutional af? Like by definition.

Because sometimes lower level judges don’t consider those things.

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Skip Intro  May 3, 2017 • 1:05:19pm

re: #35 allegro

How is that not unconstitutional af? Like by definition.

Each could face up to 12 months in prison

At least she was spared the fire hoses and dogs. It’s already starting to feel like the 1960s again.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2017 • 1:05:29pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 3, 2017 • 1:05:45pm

re: #36 Big Beautiful Door

“Disorderly Conduct.” We will have order!

Don|t tell me: she was warned, and yet she persisted…

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petesh  May 3, 2017 • 1:06:01pm

re: #26 KGxvi

“New Media” was what we were calling blogs 10-14 years ago, no? I mean, it’s not even new anymore.

Somehow the New Testament has managed to keep its name. Just sayin’.

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2017 • 1:06:14pm
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bratwurst  May 3, 2017 • 1:06:56pm
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Skip Intro  May 3, 2017 • 1:08:00pm

re: #40 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don|t tell me: she was warned, and yet she persisted…

I don’t think she was warned. In the countries run by people Trump admires she would have been dragged out and shot for showing disrespect.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 3, 2017 • 1:08:43pm

re: #36 Big Beautiful Door

“Disorderly Conduct.” We will have order!

I’ve been arrested for that when attacked by a lunatic at Chicago’s Union Station. All I did was restrain my drunk attacker using minimum necessary force, and sent my friend for the security people, who arrested us all.

Fortunately I was able to talk to the officer in charge the next week, and clear it up before my court date so they dropped the charges in court.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 3, 2017 • 1:09:59pm

re: #44 Skip Intro

I don’t think she was warned. In the countries run by people Trump admires she would have been dragged out and shot for showing disrespect.

She should have known better and yet she had the presumption.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2017 • 1:11:12pm

re: #40 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don|t tell me: she was warned, and yet she persisted…

Nope, it was a momentary outburst which didn’t effect the hearing in any way.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2017 • 1:12:28pm

re: #39 lawhawk

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Yes, Sessions is Dolores Umbridge.

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petesh  May 3, 2017 • 1:12:47pm

re: #40 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don|t tell me: she was warned, and yet she persisted…

No, she was not warned. Slate has the audio of the hearing, and you can only just hear what seems like a reflexive gasp of incredulity. Certainly no shouting. And in the NYT report, she says she expected to be shushed and was astonished to be arrested.

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KGxvi  May 3, 2017 • 1:12:50pm

re: #42 Dr. Matt

I couldn’t help myself… the guy is trying to argue that Colbert’s monologue reaches the standard of actual malice - meaning that they are untrue statements made with knowledge of falsity or with reckless disregard of the truth. What’s really sad is the guy who wrote it is a lawyer. This is officially in “fuck this” territory.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2017 • 1:13:16pm

Cue the caterwauling about this - the location, cost, everything.

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Skip Intro  May 3, 2017 • 1:13:34pm

Remember that giant rabbit United Airlines killed a little while ago? Turns out they put it in a freezer for 16 hours.

A giant rabbit that mysteriously died in the care of United Airlines was accidentally shut in a freezer by bungling staff, it has been revealed.

Black-furred Simon - expected to outgrow his 4ft 4 father to become the largest rabbit in the world - was alive when he was taken off the plane from London Heathrow but died at a holding facility at Chicago O’Hare Airport.

But now an airport worker has revealed that the pet was placed in temperatures of 0 to 2 degrees celsius by mistake, causing it to freeze to death.

dailymail.co.uk

I dislike the Daily Mail, but I think they got this story accurately.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2017 • 1:14:14pm

re: #50 KGxvi

I couldn’t help myself… the guy is trying to argue that Colbert’s monologue reaches the standard of actual malice - meaning that they are untrue statements made with knowledge of falsity or with reckless disregard of the truth. What’s really sad is the guy who wrote it is a lawyer. This is officially in “fuck this” territory.

Apparently that “lawyer” doesn’t understand the concept of satire. Larry Flynt already won this battle.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 3, 2017 • 1:14:30pm

re: #50 KGxvi

I couldn’t help myself… the guy is trying to argue that Colbert’s monologue reaches the standard of actual malice - meaning that they are untrue statements made with knowledge of falsity or with reckless disregard of the truth. What’s really sad is the guy who wrote it is a lawyer. This is officially in “fuck this” territory.

If the lawyer is also a wingnut, they won’t understand actual facts from reality, just “facts” from their bubble where the orange fascist can do no wrong.

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Sir John Barron  May 3, 2017 • 1:15:00pm

re: #52 Skip Intro

Remember that giant rabbit United Airlines killed a little while ago? Turns out they put it in a freezer for 16 hours.

dailymail.co.uk

I dislike the Daily Mail, but I think they got this story accurately.

flipping all the desks

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Skip Intro  May 3, 2017 • 1:15:07pm

re: #48 Big Beautiful Door

Yes, Sessions is Dolores Umbridge.

Except Delores Umbridge was fictional. Sessions is a real life throw back to what we used to think was America’s past. We were so naive.

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KGxvi  May 3, 2017 • 1:16:10pm

re: #53 Big Beautiful Door

Apparently that “lawyer” doesn’t understand the concept of satire. Larry Flynt already won this battle.

One of the comments on the post (most of which are of the “go get fucked” variety) points out that he completely ignores Hustler v Falwell and says rather than being written by a high school freshman with only a basic understanding of free speech and access to only one Supreme Court decision. Which, yeah, that’s basically it.

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2017 • 1:16:51pm

re: #51 lawhawk

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Cue the caterwauling about this - the location, cost, everything.

WHY DOES IT LOOK MUSLIMY!??!!!!! JUST ASKN QUESTIONzzZ!!!

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piratedan  May 3, 2017 • 1:17:14pm

re: #42 Dr. Matt

isn’t it amazing that they think that Colbert, speaking his mind publicly could be illegal and yet Trump hiring his daughter and SIL to public positions, sans experience is simply okey dokey and all of the emoluments issues and the lack of released taxes and family trust money and the usage of federal mechanisms for promoting privately held assets is somehow not worth noting…

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b.d.  May 3, 2017 • 1:17:54pm

re: #51 lawhawk

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Cue the caterwauling about this - the location, cost, everything.

It’s in a park named after Andrew Jackson, how could the wingnuts object?

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Skip Intro  May 3, 2017 • 1:23:16pm

re: #59 piratedan

isn’t it amazing that they think that Colbert, speaking his mind publicly could be illegal and yet Trump hiring his daughter and SIL to public positions, sans experience is simply okey dokey and all of the emoluments issues and the lack of released taxes and family trust money and the usage of federal mechanisms for promoting privately held assets is somehow not worth noting…

“We’re going to loosen up the libel laws.” - Dolt 45

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EPR-radar  May 3, 2017 • 1:23:36pm

re: #50 KGxvi

I couldn’t help myself… the guy is trying to argue that Colbert’s monologue reaches the standard of actual malice - meaning that they are untrue statements made with knowledge of falsity or with reckless disregard of the truth. What’s really sad is the guy who wrote it is a lawyer. This is officially in “fuck this” territory.

This actual malice standard would appear to apply to virtually everything Republicans say, especially Trump.

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Skip Intro  May 3, 2017 • 1:30:09pm

Coming soon to GOP America.

In Russia, a green-colored antiseptic becomes a weapon in attacks against opposition activists and journalists

latimes.com

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Teukka  May 3, 2017 • 1:33:43pm

re: #63 Skip Intro

Coming soon to GOP America.

latimes.com

Alternate variant on the yellow start, purple or pink triangles. Same damn purpose.

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Teukka  May 3, 2017 • 1:34:30pm

re: #64 Teukka

Alternate variant on the yellow start, purple or pink triangles. Same damn purpose.

Wonder when those defence sprays with color becomes popular for this use.

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Jay C  May 3, 2017 • 1:40:02pm

re: #52 Skip Intro

Remember that giant rabbit United Airlines killed a little while ago? Turns out they put it in a freezer for 16 hours.

dailymail.co.uk

I dislike the Daily Mail, but I think they got this story accurately.

Well, some figures they cited seem to bear out public perceptions:

United had the second-highest level of animal deaths and injuries of any US airline last year, or 2.11 per 10,000 animals transported, according to the Department of Transportation.
Only Hawaiian Airlines was worse at 3.99, the result of three deaths among the 7,518 animals it transported.
United transported 109,149 animals last year, second only to Alaska Airlines with 112,281. United reported nine deaths and 14 injuries, the highest figures for each category among US carriers. Alaska reported two deaths and one injury.

The numbers for Hawaiian seem like a fluke: United? It just seems like SOP: their denials sound as hollow as hell…
Poor Simon!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 3, 2017 • 1:43:28pm

re: #66 Jay C

Well, some figures they cited seem to bear out public perceptions:

The numbers for Hawaiian seem like a fluke: United? It just seems like SOP: their denials sound as hollow as hell…
Poor Simon!

Probably because you have a bias against United.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2017 • 1:45:42pm
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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2017 • 1:53:14pm

I saw Phish in concert once. They played for 3 1/2 hours and played 6 songs.

/

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danarchy  May 3, 2017 • 1:53:44pm

re: #66 Jay C

Well, some figures they cited seem to bear out public perceptions:

The numbers for Hawaiian seem like a fluke: United? It just seems like SOP: their denials sound as hollow as hell…
Poor Simon!

I found this article from a few years ago. Looks like Alaska Airlines topped the list for pet casualties for several years so it looks like they have made a concerted effort to turn that around.

seattletimes.com

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 3, 2017 • 1:58:09pm

re: #64 Teukka

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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2017 • 1:58:21pm
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Belafon  May 3, 2017 • 1:59:23pm

I hadn’t realized how much Democrats got out of the budget negotiations:

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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2017 • 2:00:43pm
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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2017 • 2:02:41pm
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 2:02:55pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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Sick of these bastards being normalized.

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CongoJack  May 3, 2017 • 2:05:04pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

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These are happening all over my office (work in education in Colorado). I myself received about 30 in a matter of 5 minutes. All from people I know… and it was quite blatant that they were fake as all were coming real people but had me bcc’d on them and going to hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh@mailinator.com. Few people did click on them but I havent heard anything happening to them yet (talked to my IT guy - hes running scans at the moment but so far it doesn’t look like anything too bad, just more annoying than anything… we hope).

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Targetpractice  May 3, 2017 • 2:05:06pm

re: #73 Belafon

I hadn’t realized how much Democrats got out of the budget negotiations:

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This is the new talking point to try to gain some sort moral “victory”: “The Dems wanted a shutdown and we prevented that.” No, Mulvaney, the exact opposite is true and you’d realize that if you look through the sites that your base frequents. They want Trump to veto the bill, they want him to shutdown the government, and they want it because they believe that Dems will be blamed for the shutdown for not giving Trump everything he wanted.

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CongoJack  May 3, 2017 • 2:09:17pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

Sure… blame the Dems when the Grumpy Old Pricks have all the power in the House, Senate and Presidency. Does no one remember the BS Obama had to go through working with Boehner/Cantor just to get the Rs to work with him on NOT shutting down the government.

I at the ‘just can’t even’ level today.

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Stanley Sea  May 3, 2017 • 2:10:54pm

This kind of action makes us less safe. We should be protecting this family, not sending them into harm’s way.

Deportation force - we were warned.

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Belafon  May 3, 2017 • 2:11:31pm

re: #79 CongoJack

Sure… blame the Dems when the Grumpy Old Pricks have all the power in the House, Senate and Presidency. Does no one remember the BS Obama had to go through working with Boehner/Cantor just to get the Rs to work with him on NOT shutting down the government.

I at the ‘just can’t even’ level today.

I’m laughing at the fact that the party that knows how to govern, Democrats, got more out of a budget being in the minority party than Republican could get being in control of the House and Senate during Obama because they don’t know how to govern.

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Sir John Barron  May 3, 2017 • 2:12:45pm

re: #73 Belafon

Mulvaney: “The bottom line is this…They didn’t get what many of them, including many in their base wanted. They wanted a shutdown.”

— Francesca Chambers

LoL

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Sir John Barron  May 3, 2017 • 2:14:15pm

re: #82 Sir John Barron

LoL

We wanted a shut-down? I don’t recall seeing any posts here about that.

We must not be the in-group.

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Stanley Sea  May 3, 2017 • 2:17:27pm

Venezuela president dancing while soldiers shoot tear gas and clash with protesters. Perfect encapsulation of surreal state TV

Watch the camera pan

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2017 • 2:18:17pm

In case you’re not keeping score:

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CongoJack  May 3, 2017 • 2:19:08pm

re: #83 Sir John Barron

We wanted a shut-down? I don’t recall seeing any posts here about that.

We must not be the in-group.

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Or did Ted Cruz change parties? That is the only way a Dem would want to shut down government cause ya know - we understand that when the government shuts down it hurts the everyday citizen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2017 • 2:27:33pm

ewww…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2017 • 2:33:54pm

home made honey roasted chickpeas…

o. m. g.

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CongoJack  May 3, 2017 • 2:35:51pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

is that for some loofah falafel?

Sounds delicious.

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2017 • 2:38:49pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2017 • 2:39:36pm

re: #89 CongoJack

is that for some loofah falafel?

Sounds delicious.

this recipe:
inspiredtaste.net

can also make a savory version by replacing the honey/cinnamon with taco seasoning or chili powder or any other spice blend.

I am in salad planning heaven right now.

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thedopefishlives  May 3, 2017 • 2:41:44pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Brian J.  May 3, 2017 • 2:43:12pm

re: #23 lawhawk

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Hope that someone distinguishes that Wikileaks aren’t journalists and aren’t held to any of those standards. They’re a front group for Russian agitprop and espionage.

Why couldn’t Comey at least have had some style instead of all his mealy-mouthing? Drop a trail of rubles on his way in and out, brag about his delivering the country to its former nemesis and reversing the result of the Cold War at a stroke. Dare the treasonous Republicans to stop him. Gloat at the spineless Obama and the pusillanimous Dems. Don’t give us this obviously fake “I really didn’t want to throw the election, honest” BS.

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FormerDirtDart  May 3, 2017 • 2:44:20pm

Not something that would seem to work in ‘Merica…

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 2:44:21pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

this recipe:
inspiredtaste.net

can also make a savory version by replacing the honey/cinnamon with taco seasoning or chili powder or any other spice blend.

I am in salad planning heaven right now.

That looks both delicious and healthy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2017 • 2:46:55pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

That looks both delicious and healthy.

It is delicious and I will insist that it is indeed healthy.

that’s my story and I’m sticking to it…

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Bubblehead II  May 3, 2017 • 2:46:58pm

New Olberman.

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FormerDirtDart  May 3, 2017 • 2:47:16pm

Why would you even give this turd a forum?

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calochortus  May 3, 2017 • 2:48:48pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

Why would you even give this turd a forum?

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Because people who are not like us don’t deserve to get anything back for their tax dollars?

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 2:49:16pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

Why would you even give this turd a forum?

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Thanks Joe, basically admitting to me what I’ve already known about wingnuts like you, you’re fine with “big government” when it’s for white people.

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Belafon  May 3, 2017 • 2:54:45pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

If Walsh were in Texas, he couldn’t get his vehicle regustratuon renewed.

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Stanley Sea  May 3, 2017 • 2:54:54pm

Good point

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Amory Blaine  May 3, 2017 • 2:59:47pm

re: #83 Sir John Barron

We wanted a shut-down? I don’t recall seeing any posts here about that.

We must not be the in-group.

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This is so frustrating, it doesn’t matter what the facts are anymore. The GOP can basically lie with impunity.

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FormerDirtDart  May 3, 2017 • 3:06:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2017 • 3:10:00pm

re: #104 FormerDirtDart

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It can not be perceived as a witch hunt, which it would be given the conditions of the current invitation to testify.

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Amory Blaine  May 3, 2017 • 3:10:47pm

Apparently they believe they can fuck health care up for millions of people and it won’t affect their seats. Or it will, and it’s a price they’re willing to pay.

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Brian J.  May 3, 2017 • 3:11:41pm

re: #106 Amory Blaine

Apparently they believe they can fuck health care up for millions of people and it won’t affect their seats. Or it will, and it’s a price they’re willing to pay.

It won’t, at least for the vast majority. Most of the white working class will gladly lay down and die for the glory of white supremacy.

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electrotek  May 3, 2017 • 3:11:49pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

Why would you even give this turd a forum?

He deserves a punch in the face for being a deadbeat dad.

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Amory Blaine  May 3, 2017 • 3:15:38pm

American Airlines is taking away more legroom in economy, report says

Cramped airline seats are a top complaint of air travelers these days. Now, passengers may soon have even more to complain about on some American Airlines flights.

The USA’s biggest carrier will reduce legroom by up two inches in the economy cabin of its new Boeing 737 MAX jets that will begin arriving to the airline later this year.

That’s according to CNN, which was the first to report the news. The network adds United is said to be considering a similar change, “according to a person briefed on its evaluations.” United declined to comment to CNN.

As for the details of the changes at American, the “seat pitch” - a standard industry measure of the space between the same spot between two seats - will shrink from the current 31 inches to 30 inches throughout most of the economy cabin on the company’s new 737 MAX planes. Three rows of the plane will have an even bigger reduction, with the space shrinking from 31 inches to 29 inches. Those rows will be the last two on the aircraft as well as one other row closer to the front.

Soon there won’t be enough room to even drag you out of the plane!

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Pineapple Pizza  May 3, 2017 • 3:17:31pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Related - our household has received at least 4 phishing phone calls from “Molly from Apple Support” in the last 8 hours.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2017 • 3:17:55pm

re: #83 Sir John Barron

We wanted a shut-down? I don’t recall seeing any posts here about that.

We must not be the in-group.

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I think it’s the difference between the Right and the Left. The Left wants results, because they matter to real people, hence the dragged out, yearlong slog to get the ACA passed. We didn’t want a shutdown, though we did figure that a shutdown over the wall, or over defunding medical research would definitely play better for us than them.

The Right wants optics, wants to grind our faces in stuff, wants shiny things they can point to. Look at the current push to pass the AHCA - first, they tried to do it by a DEADLINE. Now? Once again, they’re pushing for a vote in the next 36 hours on a bill that isn’t even written yet. “Moderates” who SEEMED to have been taking a principled stand in opposition because of the threat to people with preexisting conditions are caving with the promise of a token amount of money to cover the loss, all in a bill that the Senate won’t touch.

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calochortus  May 3, 2017 • 3:18:48pm

Mark Sanford is on The News Hour talking about how great the new healthcare bill is. He brought up how well high risk pools worked in Maine. Except I have a friend in Maine whose husband is self employed and couldn’t get insurance through the high risk pool because they ran out of money. Nice try.

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calochortus  May 3, 2017 • 3:21:12pm

And now we have Kathy Castor (D) pointing out that the high risk pools haven’t worked for most people, including in her home state of Florida.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2017 • 3:24:08pm

re: #102 Stanley Sea

Good point

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The folks who like to portray themselves as hard-headed realists sure seem to be afraid of any fact-based analysis of their bills.

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Patricia Kayden  May 3, 2017 • 3:28:33pm

re: #34 Big Beautiful Door

Another dispatch from Trump’s America. Protestor is convicted in D.C. for laughing at Jeff Sessions during his confirmation hearing.

This deserves days of protests. I can’t believe this is happening in the land of the free. Absolutely horrific. This was a perfect case for jury nullification.
en.wikipedia.org

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lawhawk  May 3, 2017 • 3:29:06pm

re: #112 calochortus

Mark Sanford is on The News Hour talking about how great the new healthcare bill is. He brought up how well high risk pools worked in Maine. Except I have a friend in Maine whose husband is self employed and couldn’t get insurance through the high risk pool because they ran out of money. Nice try.

The GOP is massively underfunding their HRP. $8 billion over 5 years, is barely a ripple in the market, which actually would be properly funded at $200 billion or more over that same period. Gaba, Spiro, and others have done the math, and the GOP simply doesn’t care.

They’ll underfund it, claim that they did what they could, and vote to kill people, because that’s the ultimate goal. They just don’t give a fuck. And GOP supporters are cheering them all the way to hell.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2017 • 3:31:15pm

If the GOP gets this healthcare monstrosity passed the gloating from Trump will be unbearable.

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calochortus  May 3, 2017 • 3:31:50pm

re: #116 lawhawk

The GOP is massively underfunding their HRP. $8 billion over 5 years, is barely a ripple in the market, which actually would be properly funded at $200 billion or more over that same period. Gaba, Spiro, and others have done the math, and the GOP simply doesn’t care.

They’ll underfund it, claim that they did what they could, and vote to kill people, because that’s the ultimate goal. They just don’t give a fuck. And GOP supporters are cheering them all the way to hell.

Of course they will.

Supporting the government putting even that much money in shows that they are willing to violate their principles (no government handouts at all) to provide some optics to get a bill that will screw people passed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2017 • 3:35:09pm

re: #112 calochortus

My first husband had advanced/terminal Crohn’s Disease and had to retire early. We were frantic about health insurance.
Back in those “good old days” the steel mill company changed up the group health insurance all the freaking time (and each time, pre-existing conditions, like Crohn’s, had a waiting period of anywhere from 6 months to a year).
Anyway…when he was forced to retire, we were frantic. State of Illinois had just come up with one of those high risk pools.
The monthly premiums were more than what BOTH of us were bringing in before he retired.

Fortunately, I was able to successfully appeal Social Security’s disability application for him, and we managed to have a relatively stress-free (and no medically induced bankruptcy) last couple of years of this life.

This all happened just about 30 years ago.

30 FREAKING YEARS AGO
and these asswipes are still trying to pull off this shit show called high risk pools as something really great.

SPIT SPIT SPIT

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2017 • 3:37:43pm

re: #116 lawhawk

The GOP is massively underfunding their HRP. $8 billion over 5 years, is barely a ripple in the market, which actually would be properly funded at $200 billion or more over that same period. Gaba, Spiro, and others have done the math, and the GOP simply doesn’t care.

They’ll underfund it, claim that they did what they could, and vote to kill people, because that’s the ultimate goal. They just don’t give a fuck. And GOP supporters are cheering them all the way to hell.

This is why I’m starting to think the House GOP are hoping the Senate will never take this up. If it doesn’t actually pass and get implemented, there’s only the CBO and other analyses to say how bad it is, whereas if it actually passed, it would be devastating to a lot of the GOP base.

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Brian J.  May 3, 2017 • 3:39:26pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

This is why I’m starting to think the House GOP are hoping the Senate will never take this up. If it doesn’t actually pass and get implemented, there’s only the CBO and other analyses to say how bad it is, whereas if it actually passed, it would be devastating to a lot of the GOP base.

How could they possibly explain that to their constituents? And the “GOP base” are eager to sacrifice their children, family members, and selves for the Greater RaHoWa.

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Stanley Sea  May 3, 2017 • 3:40:06pm
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Shiplord Kirel  May 3, 2017 • 3:40:22pm

re: #109 Amory Blaine

American Airlines is taking away more legroom in economy, report says

Soon there won’t be enough room to even drag you out of the plane!

They could have people lie down on shelves, each space 2 feet wide with 2 feet clearance between layers. They would provide a foam cushion but a pillow would be extra. I bet you could get 300 head into a 737 like that, more if you used the baggage compartments.

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thedopefishlives  May 3, 2017 • 3:41:01pm

re: #123 Shiplord Kirel

They could have people lie down on shelves, each space 2 feet wide with 2 feet clearance between layers. They would provide a foam cushion but a pillow would be extra. I bet you could get 300 head into a 737 like that, more if you used the baggage compartments.

That’s where you run into that pesky federal regulation again. They have to be able to evacuate the whole plane in, I believe it is 90 seconds, from fully seated.

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Brian J.  May 3, 2017 • 3:41:55pm

re: #124 thedopefishlives

That’s where you run into that pesky federal regulation again. They have to be able to evacuate the whole plane in, I believe it is 90 seconds, from fully seated.

“Regulation?” What are you, some kind of Commie? This is the free market speaking! Heed its ominpotent call!

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2017 • 3:43:00pm

re: #124 thedopefishlives

That’s where you run into that pesky federal regulation again. They have to be able to evacuate the whole plane in, I believe it is 90 seconds, from fully seated.

Or at least have a way to jettison the bodies of those who die in transit.

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Skip Intro  May 3, 2017 • 3:43:20pm

re: #123 Shiplord Kirel

They could have people lie down on shelves, each space 2 feet wide with 2 feet clearance between layers. They would provide a foam cushion but a pillow would be extra. I bet you could get 300 head into a 737 like that, more if you used the baggage compartments.

People stand in line for hours for a Trump event. Surely they could stand for an airline flight. The carriers could reduce the ticket price by $1.00 and Trump’s FAA could eliminate the wasteful requirement that all passengers be seated during takeoffs and landings.

I can’t see any Republican disagreeing with this.

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petesh  May 3, 2017 • 3:44:10pm

re: #124 thedopefishlives

That’s where you run into that pesky federal regulation again. They have to be able to evacuate the whole plane in, I believe it is 90 seconds, from fully seated.

I was going to make a snarky comment about ejector seats, but … evacuate in 90 seconds? I cannot see how any current plane meets that criterion, unless of course the passengers are all hyper athletic gymnasts who never panic.

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Shazam  May 3, 2017 • 3:45:17pm

re: #122 Stanley Sea

Makes sense. Under the current administration, human rights aren’t a US value.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2017 • 3:45:37pm

re: #128 petesh

I was going to make a snarky comment about ejector seats, but … evacuate in 90 seconds? I cannot see how any current plane meets that criterion, unless of course the passengers are all hyper athletic gymnasts who never panic.

There’s always the freezer unit where they stuffed the rabbit after landing…

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thedopefishlives  May 3, 2017 • 3:46:02pm

re: #128 petesh

I was going to make a snarky comment about ejector seats, but … evacuate in 90 seconds? I cannot see how any current plane meets that criterion, unless of course the passengers are all hyper athletic gymnasts who never panic.

It has to do with the number of exits and their distribution across the cabin. If the exits are all utilized appropriately, with a limit on the number of people exiting through a given door and the bottleneck points (where multiple exit paths coincide) wide enough to accommodate the flow, it’s not as unreasonable as you think. However, the test is run under test conditions, not with the plane actually on fire; so the panic element is a valid point.

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petesh  May 3, 2017 • 3:46:44pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s always the freezer unit where they stuffed the rabbit after landing…

Ah yes, evacuation need not mean survival. Poor bunny!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2017 • 3:48:51pm

re: #131 thedopefishlives

It has to do with the number of exits and their distribution across the cabin. If the exits are all utilized appropriately, with a limit on the number of people exiting through a given door and the bottleneck points (where multiple exit paths coincide) wide enough to accommodate the flow, it’s not as unreasonable as you think. However, the test is run under test conditions, not with the plane actually on fire; so the panic element is a valid point.

That’s what we’d call the Control. Probably can’t do the REAL experiment. Not legally, anyway…

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451_Montag  May 3, 2017 • 3:49:20pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

ewww…

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Is this a metaphor for the Trump administration?

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Shiplord Kirel  May 3, 2017 • 3:50:03pm

I’m so old I remember when it was a real pleasure to fly commercially; spotless, beautifully decorated cabins, nice seats, pleasant attendants, good grub, free goodies, no hassle getting into the plane. There were routes that were only dreamed of today: Non-stop Lubbock to LA, for example. There was even a jet flight from Lubbock to Amarillo, took 21 minutes and cost $19.95. It was a favorite for folks who had never flown before.

This was all because routing and rates were regulated by the Civil Aeronautics Board. Operators had to take low profit routes in order to bid for the high profit ones. If you wanted Dallas to Denver, for example, you had to take Lubbock to Denver or Abilene to Tulsa with it. The real breaking point was the abolition of the Civil Aeronautics Board as part of Reagan’s accursed push for de-regulation. It then became a wild free-for-all not seen since the early days of railroading.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2017 • 3:50:05pm

re: #134 451_Montag

Is this a metaphor for the Trump administration?

I thought it was one of the Plagues.

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Patricia Kayden  May 3, 2017 • 3:50:48pm

re: #43 bratwurst

Considering? There already should be a policy that if you make racist comments, you get banned for life. This shouldn’t be happening in 2017.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  May 3, 2017 • 3:51:57pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

Why would you even give this turd a forum?

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Don’t you just love how former Rep. Joe Walsh is starting to incorporate the whole “white genocide” mantra (without outright saying it) that his fellow white nationalists have been decrying for the last several years? He’s getting his talking points straight out of places like The Daily Stormer as of late.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2017 • 3:53:46pm
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thedopefishlives  May 3, 2017 • 3:55:31pm

re: #133 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s what we’d call the Control. Probably can’t do the REAL experiment. Not legally, anyway…

No, but the continually falling incidence rate of fire-related death and injury on crashed airliners (or airline deaths in general) provides some substantive evidence that the process works.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2017 • 3:57:35pm

re: #139 gocart mozart

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You know what? FUCK ‘compassion’! Fuck ‘charity’. The people he wants to be able to CHOOSE whether or not to help? They’re just Non-Playable Characters to him. They have no importance to him except as a test of his ‘compassion’.

People who are poor, people who are sick, people with sick children - they shouldn’t have to depend on the whims of selfish assholes like him.

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Birth Control Works  May 3, 2017 • 4:00:34pm
If you ask anyone under the age of 21 where they post most frequently on Instagram, chances are they’ll tell you it’s to their finsta.

Finsta stands for “fake instagram.” It’s a separate, locked account with a nonsensical name that teens use to share everything from bad selfies, emotional rants, funny memes, screenshots of texts, homework help and more to a small, select group of friends.

Unlike a teen’s “real instagram” or “rinsta,” where their image is carefully curated for public consumption, finsta is intimate and messy and, according to every teen we spoke to, way more authentic than their main profile.

Once again, proof that I am officially old.

I don’t have a finsta.

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thedopefishlives  May 3, 2017 • 4:01:19pm

re: #142 Birth Control Works

I don’t even have a rinsta, heh. I’m so square.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2017 • 4:01:22pm

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel

I’m so old I remember when it was a real pleasure to fly commercially; spotless, beautifully decorated cabins, nice seats, pleasant attendants, good grub, free goodies, no hassle getting into the plane. There were routes that were only dreamed of today: Non-stop Lubbock to LA, for example. There was even a jet flight from Lubbock to Amarillo, took 21 minutes and cost $19.95. It was a favorite for folks who had never flown before.

This was all because routing and rates were regulated by the Civil Aeronautics Board. Operators had to take low profit routes in order to bid for the high profit ones. If you wanted Dallas to Denver, for example, you had to take Lubbock to Denver or Abilene to Tulsa with it. The real breaking point was the abolition of the Civil Aeronautics Board as part of Reagan’s accursed push for de-regulation. It then became a wild free-for-all not seen since the early days of railroading.

And now, the only low profit routes being regulated/subsidized by the federal government are pork routes (see Alaska, West Virginia, and other like places…)

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 3, 2017 • 4:01:29pm

re: #139 gocart mozart

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Cheechako  May 3, 2017 • 4:03:18pm

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel

I’m so old I remember when it was a real pleasure to fly commercially; spotless, beautifully decorated cabins, nice seats, pleasant attendants, good grub, free goodies, no hassle getting into the plane. There were routes that were only dreamed of today: Non-stop Lubbock to LA, for example. There was even a jet flight from Lubbock to Amarillo, took 21 minutes and cost $19.95. It was a favorite for folks who had never flown before.

This was all because routing and rates were regulated by the Civil Aeronautics Board. Operators had to take low profit routes in order to bid for the high profit ones. If you wanted Dallas to Denver, for example, you had to take Lubbock to Denver or Abilene to Tulsa with it. The real breaking point was the abolition of the Civil Aeronautics Board as part of Reagan’s accursed push for de-regulation. It then became a wild free-for-all not seen since the early days of railroading.

My first flight was from Newark NJ to Boston going home from basic training at Ft Dix. At that time Eastern Airlines offered a flight every hour on the hour with guaranteed seats. The first flight on the hour I was traveling was full so Eastern rolled up another plane for the leftover passengers…all four of us! The plane was an Electra with lounge type seating in the tail end where the 4 passengers and 3 Stewardesses enjoyed the free food and beverages.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 3, 2017 • 4:03:47pm

re: #122 Stanley Sea

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Bubblehead II  May 3, 2017 • 4:03:50pm

Night Lizards. As always, May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you yours.

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BeachDem  May 3, 2017 • 4:03:51pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

That looks both delicious and healthy.

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FormerDirtDart  May 3, 2017 • 4:04:57pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2017 • 4:07:25pm

Gee, if only Congress had some people that could use smart people and research on budget related topics. They could put them together in an office.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  May 3, 2017 • 4:07:51pm

re: #109 Amory Blaine

American Airlines is taking away more legroom in economy, report says

Soon there won’t be enough room to even drag you out of the plane!

Less room, on the new 737 MAX.

Orwell owns us now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2017 • 4:10:13pm

re: #152 Pawn of the Oppressor

That’s max as in Max Profits!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2017 • 4:11:35pm

re: #153 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s max as in Max Profits!

Certainly not Max Headroom.

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BeachDem  May 3, 2017 • 4:22:47pm

re: #112 calochortus

Mark Sanford is on The News Hour talking about how great the new healthcare bill is. He brought up how well high risk pools worked in Maine. Except I have a friend in Maine whose husband is self employed and couldn’t get insurance through the high risk pool because they ran out of money. Nice try.

And guess why he’s not talking about south by dog carolina’s high risk pool:

 Plan Name: South Carolina Health Insurance Pool (SCHIP)
 Years of Operation: 1989-present
 Number of People Enrolled in 2011: 2,047 (out of 822,000 South Carolinians with pre-existing conditions)
 Cost per Year: $27.7 million
Average Cost per Enrollee: $12,775 per year
 Waiting period for coverage of pre-existing conditions: 6 months
Premium Cost Compared to the Average Premium in Private Health Plans: 200%
Maximum lifetime expenses covered: $1 million

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Amory Blaine  May 3, 2017 • 4:23:54pm

Mad Max Thundertube. 300 enter, no one leaves. Seriously, because you’re stranded on the tarmac.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2017 • 4:24:15pm

So, last month, the GOP ended up punting on the AHCA vote, because it didn’t fuck people hard enough for some, and fucked people too hard for others.

The new bill now fucks people hard enough for the first group, while making the concerns of the second group materially worse.

AND there’s no CBO score.

And now they say they have the votes to pass it.

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Romantic Heretic  May 3, 2017 • 4:24:32pm

re: #129 Shazam

Makes sense. Under the current administration, human rights aren’t life isn’t a US value.

FTFY.

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Stanley Sea  May 3, 2017 • 4:24:56pm

re: #155 BeachDem

And guess why he’s not talking about south by dog carolina’s high risk pool:

 Plan Name: South Carolina Health Insurance Pool (SCHIP)
 Years of Operation: 1989-present
 Number of People Enrolled in 2011: 2,047 (out of 822,000 South Carolinians with pre-existing conditions)
 Cost per Year: $27.7 million
Average Cost per Enrollee: $12,775 per year
 Waiting period for coverage of pre-existing conditions: 6 months
Premium Cost Compared to the Average Premium in Private Health Plans: 200%
Maximum lifetime expenses covered: $1 million

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They’re voting tomorrow. I’m afraid they have the votes.

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BeachDem  May 3, 2017 • 4:27:10pm

re: #128 petesh

I was going to make a snarky comment about ejector seats, but … evacuate in 90 seconds? I cannot see how any current plane meets that criterion, unless of course the passengers are all hyper athletic gymnasts who never panic.

And if how freaking long it takes to disembark on most flights is any example, that is nigh on an impossibility. (Although, obviously, they wouldn’t need to take their steamer trunks down from the overheads before getting off.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2017 • 4:27:34pm

re: #159 Stanley Sea

They’re voting tomorrow. I’m afraid they have the votes.

The Rule Of Something: We have to pass something. This bill is something. Therefore we must pass this bill.

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Stanley Sea  May 3, 2017 • 4:28:34pm

Will the CBO score happen before the Senate?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2017 • 4:30:27pm

re: #162 Stanley Sea

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Will the CBO score happen before the Senate?

I believe this will die in committee in the Senate. And I believe that’s the House GOP’s hope.

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thedopefishlives  May 3, 2017 • 4:31:20pm

re: #163 Blind Frog Belly White

I believe this will die in committee in the Senate. And I believe that’s the House GOP’s hope.

“Hey, look, I voted against Obamacare. VOTE FOR ME!”

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piratedan  May 3, 2017 • 4:31:43pm

if their bill is so fucking awesome, why don’t they sign up for it (and their extended families) for a year and then get back to us with how well it worked….

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2017 • 4:32:03pm

re: #164 thedopefishlives

“Hey, look, I voted against Obamacare. VOTE FOR ME!”

“Screw it. We’ll fix it in Post.”

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Eventual Carrion  May 3, 2017 • 4:33:36pm

re: #35 allegro

How is that not unconstitutional af? Like by definition.

Money is free speech, laughing is not.

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piratedan  May 3, 2017 • 4:34:32pm

re: #167 Eventual Carrion

if only she had incorporated herself, none of this would have happened…../////////

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2017 • 4:36:06pm

re: #167 Eventual Carrion

Money is free speech, laughing is not.

There’s no right to disrupt Congressional proceedings.

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thedopefishlives  May 3, 2017 • 4:36:20pm

re: #167 Eventual Carrion

Money is free speech, laughing is not.

Reading the article, it appears the jury convicted her because she went off during/after being arrested. It implies that if she’d just left it at the laugh, she would have walked. That being said, I still find this ridiculous, because she shouldn’t have been arrested in the first place, and I totally can’t blame her for losing control when it happened.

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Pineapple Pizza  May 3, 2017 • 4:37:44pm

re: #169 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s no right to disrupt Congressional proceedings.

“You lie!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2017 • 4:41:57pm

re: #166 Blind Frog Belly White

“Screw it. We’ll fix it in Post.”

“Fuck it…we’ll do it live!!!”

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Patricia Kayden  May 3, 2017 • 4:43:20pm

re: #169 Blind Frog Belly White

Should you be jailed for disrupting Congress by laughing? Sorry but that sounds like something that would happen in a dictatorship.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2017 • 4:43:51pm

Trumpcare/GOPDontCare - we’ll see a lot more of this, because people simply wont be able to afford coverage, or care.

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William Lewis  May 3, 2017 • 4:45:46pm

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel

Yep.

“Deregulation” and “privatization” are two GOP code words for destroying industries and stealing from the corpses.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 4:48:38pm

re: #174 lawhawk

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Trumpcare/GOPDontCare - we’ll see a lot more of this, because people simply wont be able to afford coverage, or care.

Sigh, I hate reading stories like this. Poor guy knows he’s not going to be there for those moments. And you’re right.

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austin_blue  May 3, 2017 • 4:50:36pm

re: #175 William Lewis

Yep.

“Deregulation” and “privatization” are two GOP code words for destroying industries and stealing from the corpses.

Privatize the Profit and Socialize the Cost.

The New Republicanism™.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 3, 2017 • 4:51:27pm

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 3, 2017 • 4:51:58pm

re: #177 austin_blue

Privatize the Profit and Socialize the Cost Losses.

You’re welcome.

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Stanley Sea  May 3, 2017 • 4:54:02pm
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Eventual Carrion  May 3, 2017 • 4:56:58pm

re: #69 Dr. Matt

I saw Phish in concert once. They played for 3 1/2 hours and played 6 songs.

/

I caught them once a few years ago. Great show.Blossom Music Center was a great place to watch them.

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Skip Intro  May 3, 2017 • 4:56:59pm

U.S. Senate votes to block California-led effort on retirement security for low-income workers

Of course they did. States rights only mean voter suppression and slavery to the GOP.

A pioneering, California-led effort to create retirement security for low-income workers has been thrown into jeopardy after the U.S. Senate voted Wednesday to block states from starting programs to automatically enroll millions of people in IRA-type savings plans.

The measure, aimed at stopping the fledgling state retirement programs, now goes to President Trump, who has vowed to sign it.

That leaves lawmakers in California, Illinois and other states who only months ago were celebrating the success of their long-planned initiative scrambling to regroup. The Senate voted 50 to 49 to stop the state plans.

The retirement programs that were about to launch in seven states and are under consideration in many more were targeted by Wall Street firms and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

latimes.com

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 4:57:44pm

re: #182 Skip Intro

U.S. Senate votes to block California-led effort on retirement security for low-income workers

Of course they did. States rights only mean voter suppression and slavery to the GOP.

latimes.com

States rights. //

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Brian J.  May 3, 2017 • 4:59:58pm

re: #182 Skip Intro

U.S. Senate votes to block California-led effort on retirement security for low-income workers

Of course they did. States rights only mean voter suppression and slavery to the GOP.

latimes.com

That’s all they’ve ever meant to anyone.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2017 • 5:01:15pm

Okay. I watched the video attached to the article. Twice you can hear someone laughing out loud. It looks like when the Capitol Police tried to remove her, she resisted. It’s worth noting that, at the end, she’s shouting, but the mic barely pics it up, which means her initial laughter must have been pretty loud. She was clearly attempting to disrupt the proceedings, and she succeeded.

It’s not accurate to say ‘she was jailed for laughing’.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 3, 2017 • 5:06:01pm

Republicans are going to pass Trumpcare to fuck us all.

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Ace Rothstein  May 3, 2017 • 5:06:29pm

re: #186 GlutenFreeJesus

Republicans are going to pass Trumpcare to fuck us all.

Won’t pass the Senate, I don’t think.

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Skip Intro  May 3, 2017 • 5:07:03pm

re: #184 Brian J.

That’s all they’ve ever meant to anyone.

I think today we could say it’s all about voter suppression and dealing effectively with the “Negro” problem without interference from an out of control federal government.

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austin_blue  May 3, 2017 • 5:08:09pm

re: #185 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay. I watched the video attached to the article. Twice you can hear someone laughing out loud. It looks like when the Capitol Police tried to remove her, she resisted. It’s worth noting that, at the end, she’s shouting, but the mic barely pics it up, which means her initial laughter must have been pretty loud. She was clearly attempting to disrupt the proceedings, and she succeeded.

It’s not accurate to say ‘she was jailed for laughing’.

A quibble. She was a member of the public, a citizen, watching a potential employee perform before a panel.

She could have been playing “Taps” on a bugle for all I care. She shouldn’t have been arrested and certainly not convicted of a crime for laughter. Again, she was watching One Of Her Potential Employees In A Job Interview. The little fuckers work for us. We do not and can not bow to them as our Overlords.

OK, maybe more than a quibble. 😜

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 3, 2017 • 5:14:29pm

re: #187 Ace Rothstein

Won’t pass the Senate, I don’t think.

Every time they try they get closer.

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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2017 • 5:21:09pm

LOL what the fuck was google thinking with google docs? It’s like they went out of their way to create the perfect incubator for malicious scam artists.

Remember when their motto was “don’t be evil.” That was hilarious … and maybe should’ve been people’s first clue. I mean, if your primary income stream comes from advertising and you feel the need to tell people you’re NOT evil, then you’re almost certainly evil to your fucking core.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 3, 2017 • 5:22:19pm

re: #189 austin_blue

A quibble. She was a member of the public, a citizen, watching a potential employee perform before a panel.

She could have been playing “Taps” on a bugle for all I care. She shouldn’t have been arrested and certainly not convicted of a crime for laughter. Again, she was watching One Of Her Potential Employees In A Job Interview. The little fuckers work for us. We do not and can not bow to them as our Overlords.

OK, maybe more than a quibble. 😜

Freepers have already connected her to Mexico, ISIS, and Satan. Their favorite from the bad old days, accusing her of being a Russian agent, is not on the table for some reason.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 5:23:20pm

re: #192 Shiplord Kirel

Freepers have already connected her to Mexico, ISIS, and Satan. Their favorite from the bad old days, accusing her of being a Russian agent, is not on the table for some reason.

A bunch of real intellectual heavyweights over at FR as always I see.

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Birth Control Works  May 3, 2017 • 5:26:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2017 • 5:26:38pm

ok…just a heads up…

those honey roasted chickpeas are addictive and imma about to esplode…

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Big Beautiful Door  May 3, 2017 • 5:33:52pm

re: #194 Birth Control Works

Woman found guilty and faces year in jail for laughing at Jeff Sessions

Really? Did we already talk about this?

We did; convicted of “disturbing the peace” for a short laugh at Sessions’ confirmation hearing.

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FormerDirtDart  May 3, 2017 • 5:39:22pm
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 5:40:38pm

re: #197 FormerDirtDart

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You’re pathetic Jason. You never would have gone after Bush for doing this but I get it because you can’t accept that Obama beat your party like red headed step children twice, you resort to this pathetic shit.

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calochortus  May 3, 2017 • 5:42:17pm

Has anyone heard anything about Yahoo Groups not being supported? I got an email from the administrator of a group I’m in about having heard that was about to happen and she’s kind of panicky about starting a new group somewhere.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 3, 2017 • 5:44:54pm
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 5:46:48pm

re: #200 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Exactly. If you want to choose to believe in a holy book that forbids same sex marriage, fine, that’s your right but the second your belief gets in the way of something that is legal in this society, you’re discriminating. I wish people would stop hiding behind religion when tehy’re just really looking for an excuse to be a dick.

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austin_blue  May 3, 2017 • 5:47:14pm

re: #199 calochortus

Has anyone heard anything about Yahoo Groups not being supported? I got an email from the administrator of a group I’m in about having heard that was about to happen and she’s kind of panicky about starting a new group somewhere.

Can’t find anything on the Interwebs that they are shutting down the service.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2017 • 5:47:36pm

And there you have it. “Intellectual conservative” Jonah Goldberg gives away the game. Conservatives’ only values and principles are designed to do nothing but piss off liberals, and that’s a good thing! I say it is evil.

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calochortus  May 3, 2017 • 5:48:40pm

re: #202 austin_blue

Can’t find anything on the Interwebs that they are shutting down the service.

I couldn’t either, and it seems like this would be huge news, not something you’d pick up as essentially gossip from other group administrators.

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2017 • 5:49:22pm

re: #163 Blind Frog Belly White

I believe this will die in committee in the Senate. And I believe that’s the House GOP’s hope.

re: #164 thedopefishlives

“Hey, look, I voted against Obamacare. VOTE FOR ME!”

That is exactly what they are doing. I think it is called playing politics. With an additional hedging a bet their constituents will not be paying close attention.

The Democrats need to be the “elephant” come next year and remember all of this and paint the GOP with it over and over and over.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 5:49:28pm

re: #203 teleskiguy

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And there you have it. “Intellectual conservative” Jonah Goldberg gives away the game. Conservatives’ only values and principles are designed to do nothing but piss off liberals, and that’s a good thing! I say it is evil.

Can NRO just close down and Jonah be forced to find a real job. YOu’re right though. IT’s all about pissing off liberals and that’s all that fucking matters to these assholes.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 3, 2017 • 5:49:42pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

Exactly. If you want to choose to believe in a holy book that forbids same sex marriage, fine, that’s your right but the second your belief gets in the way of something that is legal in this society, you’re discriminating. I wish people would stop hiding behind religion when tehy’re just really looking for an excuse to be a dick.

They can’t tell the difference between their religion and their asshole subculture.

The Republican party has been working to create assholes at least since Reagan.

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austin_blue  May 3, 2017 • 5:50:49pm

re: #204 calochortus

I couldn’t either, and it seems like this would be huge news, not something you’d pick up as essentially gossip from other group administrators.

115 million users and 10 million groups? I would thinks so!

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 5:51:12pm

re: #207 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

They can’t tell the difference between their religion and their asshole subculture.

The Republican party has been working to create assholes at least since Reagan.

Yeah I think the Republican Party’s ultimate decline begins with Reagan too. Nixon played a role too but Reagan began the whole “Let’s just do stuff to piss off liberals.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2017 • 5:51:22pm
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teleskiguy  May 3, 2017 • 5:52:16pm
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austin_blue  May 3, 2017 • 5:53:38pm

re: #207 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

They can’t tell the difference between their religion and their asshole subculture.

The Republican party has been working to create assholes at least since Reagan.

Nixon. Nixon Nixon Nixon.

As in, “I’ve had my coffee and my morning cigarette. Now I need to take a big ol’ Nixon.”

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2017 • 5:55:22pm
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calochortus  May 3, 2017 • 5:56:34pm

Din-din. BBL

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Stanley Sea  May 3, 2017 • 5:59:16pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2017 • 5:59:50pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 3, 2017 • 6:00:19pm

re: #197 FormerDirtDart

Those of you who tweet should be dragging Chaffetz through the mud.

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Joe Bacon  May 3, 2017 • 6:00:24pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 3, 2017 • 6:00:58pm

re: #211 teleskiguy

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Yes!! Drag him!!

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Joe Bacon  May 3, 2017 • 6:01:03pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 6:01:17pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

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And the far left makes it worse by going on with the fauxrage about it.

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2017 • 6:05:36pm

re: #218 Joe Bacon

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2017 • 6:06:05pm

re: #220 Joe Bacon

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Bone Spur, Jr.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2017 • 6:06:20pm
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teleskiguy  May 3, 2017 • 6:12:31pm
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 6:12:39pm

re: #225 teleskiguy

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Hasn’t stopped them before but he’s right.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 6:13:18pm

GOP

Goddamn
Other
People

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 3, 2017 • 6:13:28pm

/sigh

I’m in that pre-existing condition boat, with the added joy that I will be in the individual insurance market at some point in the next few years because when mr. klys retires (even if he works to the traditional retirement age) …I’m still well away from qualifying for Medicare.

We know this. It’s budgeted for, based on the insurance premiums we’ve been paying. But now? How the fuck do I even start to estimate what it’s going to cost? And it’s for a condition that doesn’t even require treatment on a regular basis.

There’s a lot of things I want to do, none of which are particularly productive, but I can’t think of what I could do that will be. My rep is a no vote. I want to leave the phone lines open for people in the districts of reps who aren’t set nos, because those voices are going to be worth more than mine. And how do you deal with knowing there’s an awful lot of people, some of whom are related to you by blood or marriage, who are completely okay with screwing you over? With screwing everyone over, but it feels really personal right now.

Tomorrow will be another day to pick up and fight. I know.

And then there’s this.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 3, 2017 • 6:15:18pm

re: #211 teleskiguy

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Oh you are so getting a Twitter timeout.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2017 • 6:16:36pm

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

Oh you are so getting a Twitter timeout.

So far so good. We shall see. 😀

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piratedan  May 3, 2017 • 6:19:19pm

all of this is being done in the name of denying a black man his signature legislative achievement and ends in the higher health care costs for an entire nation…. Not to mention will likely end up in the deaths of many and financial ruin for others. Gotta say this for the GOP, when they hold a grudge, they really hold a fucking grudge. None of them will actually have the balls to say that this is the reason but still needs to be said.

Plus they get the bonus of shifting more cash into the pockets of the people who pull their strings….

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2017 • 6:20:07pm

Let’s see. Depression? Check. Ulcerative colitis? Check. Broken bones? Check. I’m a preexisting condition minefield. I will lose my insurance if this bill passes as I simply will not be able to afford the premiums without the subsidies I get through Connect for Health Colorado.

I’m pissed, man!

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Skip Intro  May 3, 2017 • 6:20:08pm

re: #229 klys (maker of Silmarils)

They are taking care of the important people.

“Topher Spiro @TopherSpiro
NEWS: according to W&M majority, AHCA itself will still exempt Congress from the gutting of pre-existing condition protections.”

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FormerDirtDart  May 3, 2017 • 6:20:09pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 3, 2017 • 6:22:36pm
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teleskiguy  May 3, 2017 • 6:23:28pm

re: #233 teleskiguy

Let’s see. Depression? Check. Ulcerative colitis? Check. Broken bones? Check. I’m a preexisting condition minefield. I will lose my insurance if this bill passes as I simply will not be able to afford the premiums without the subsidies I get through Connect for Health Colorado.

I’m pissed, man!

Mind you, I pay some of the highest premiums in the country even with subsidies. Living close to ski areas makes the insurance companies jack up the rates something fierce. It’s a real problem that the state legislature has been trying to address with little success because one of the chambers is controlled by Republicans. If I were still living in Denver I’d be paying far less than what I am paying now.

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piratedan  May 3, 2017 • 6:23:31pm

re: #235 FormerDirtDart

read the entire post and that story was the main story from the 28th of October thru the day of the election… so it’s not that much of a stretch to say that it may have been a tipping point for anyone left on the fence.

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EPR-radar  May 3, 2017 • 6:23:47pm

re: #197 FormerDirtDart

Congressional Republicans should all fuck themselves with Ditch Witches running in overdrive.

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Cheechako  May 3, 2017 • 6:27:43pm

The Founding Fathers made one very fundamental mistake when they wrote the Constitution. The Constitution includes a method for Congress to remove the President through the impeachment process while there is no similar means to remove a Member of Congress(MOC). MOCs can only be removed by the internal vote of the respective branch. Thus Congress members are only responsible to themselves, not the Executive Branch.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 6:29:10pm

re: #235 FormerDirtDart

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I really am tired of the crap Clinton takes. Wanted to hurl chunks when I saw a lefty friend using the fact she defended that accused rapist to attack her for not “standing up for women.”

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Birth Control Works  May 3, 2017 • 6:29:20pm

Need a Baby Gift?

(feeling a little snarky tonite)

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EPR-radar  May 3, 2017 • 6:29:54pm

re: #240 Cheechako

The Founding Fathers made one very fundamental mistake when they wrote the Constitution. The Constitution includes a method for Congress to remove the President through the impeachment process while there is no similar means to remove a Member of Congress(MOC). MOCs can only be removed by the internal vote of the respective branch. Thus Congress members are only responsible to themselves, not the Executive Branch.

That was by design and not a mistake. Congress is supposed to be stronger than the executive. What possible good could come from any president being able to remove members of Congress, especially the talking skid-mark presently befouling the Oval Office?

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mmmirele  May 3, 2017 • 6:30:12pm

Jory Micah is an Evangelical and she’s having none of this “religious freedom” argument:

Facebook Post

For the record, a lot of Evangelicals dislike Jory Micah because she’s regularly pushing women’s equality, but I think she’s got it right.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 6:31:24pm

re: #244 mmmirele

Jory Micah is an Evangelical and she’s having none of this “religious freedom” argument:

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For the record, a lot of Evangelicals dislike Jory Micah because she’s regularly pushing women’s equality, but I think she’s got it right.

I somehow doubt these people would be happy if there were businesses that were discriminating against Christians. Of course, these damn fools think legal SSM is “discrimination.”

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jaunte  May 3, 2017 • 6:32:01pm
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Cheechako  May 3, 2017 • 6:33:48pm

re: #243 EPR-radar

Well the citizens of most States are trusted enough to have the ability to recall a State government official, why shouldn’t they have the same trust to recall a Senator or Representative?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 3, 2017 • 6:34:21pm

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Belafon  May 3, 2017 • 6:36:26pm

re: #191 goddamnedfrank

LOL what the fuck was google thinking with google docs? It’s like they went out of their way to create the perfect incubator for malicious scam artists.

Remember when their motto was “don’t be evil.” That was hilarious … and maybe should’ve been people’s first clue. I mean, if your primary income stream comes from advertising and you feel the need to tell people you’re NOT evil, then you’re almost certainly evil to your fucking core.

Google docs allows my CERT group to coordinate planning for the activities we particpate in. Google docs allows my kids to work on projects with classmates, such as slide presentations or lab reports, without having to have their own copy of software such as office, nor do they need to worry about transporting it to school via some device or worry about compatibility of the file format with the software.

The argument you’re making could be applied to email. Don’t blame the technology, especially since Google docs has been around for 10 years.

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Stanley Sea  May 3, 2017 • 6:36:46pm

It gets worse

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Unshaken Defiance  May 3, 2017 • 6:38:09pm

re: #246 jaunte

Pssst.

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FormerDirtDart  May 3, 2017 • 6:38:26pm
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EPR-radar  May 3, 2017 • 6:38:29pm

re: #247 Cheechako

Well the citizens of most States are trusted enough to have the ability to recall a State government official, why shouldn’t they have the same trust to recall a Senator or Representative?

Federal recall elections might be a reform worth considering, but that’s entirely different than an executive branch check on Congress as suggested in #240.

IMO such recalls are pointless. Just let the normal election cycles play out and vote the SOBs out of office.

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Skip Intro  May 3, 2017 • 6:38:39pm

re: #250 Stanley Sea

It gets worse

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She’s just as vapid and clueless as her father. The only difference is that she’s had more plastic surgery.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 6:38:44pm

re: #250 Stanley Sea

It gets worse

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Jeebus.

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2017 • 6:39:38pm

re: #247 Cheechako

Well the citizens of most States are trusted enough to have the ability to recall a State government official, why shouldn’t they have the same trust to recall a Senator or Representative?

I think you touch on something that could work. How about the people of the district being able to vote to impeach their rep?

Say the President and other members of congress call for a special election to impeach a rep. It would then be up to the people of the district to do the deed. It might not work all the time, but it would give a chance to remove someone that absolutely needs to go.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2017 • 6:40:28pm
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jaunte  May 3, 2017 • 6:42:02pm

re: #250 Stanley Sea
Straight out of MLM Nation:
mlmnation.net

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Puss Power  May 3, 2017 • 6:43:50pm

re: #229 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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EPR-radar  May 3, 2017 • 6:43:51pm

re: #256 ObserverArt

I think you touch on something that could work. How about the people of the district being able to vote to impeach their rep?

Say the President and other members of congress call for a special election to impeach a rep. It would then be up to the people of the district to do the deed. It might not work all the time, but it would give a chance to remove someone that absolutely needs to go.

This seems totally pointless to me. The worst pieces of shit in Congress are almost always there with full approval from their constituents. Plus the idea of POTUS and a Congressional majority impeaching other members of Congress is guaranteed to be abused along partisan lines.

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Cheechako  May 3, 2017 • 6:46:31pm

re: #260 EPR-radar

This seems totally pointless to me. The worst pieces of shit in Congress are almost always there with full approval from their constituents. Plus the idea of POTUS and a Congressional majority impeaching other members of Congress is guaranteed to be abused along partisan lines.

Everyone, you’re right. We get the Congress we deserve when less than 50% of the voters bother to show up at the polls.

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2017 • 6:47:07pm

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 3, 2017 • 6:47:31pm

re: #259 Puss Power

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2017 • 6:52:26pm

re: #253 EPR-radar

Federal recall elections might be a reform worth considering, but that’s entirely different than an executive branch check on Congress as suggested in #240.

IMO such recalls are pointless. Just let the normal election cycles play out and vote the SOBs out of office.

Isn’t that sort of the same as what you just said about my idea? If they are so embedded as you suggest then they won’t vote them out in an election either.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2017 • 6:53:40pm

re: #262 ObserverArt

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EPR-radar  May 3, 2017 • 7:06:07pm

re: #264 ObserverArt

Isn’t that sort of the same as what you just said about my idea? If they are so embedded as you suggest then they won’t vote them out in an election either.

If you can’t get rid of a jackass in a normal election, a recall is more likely to fail. E.g., the Walker recall attempt.

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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2017 • 7:30:13pm
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Interesting Times  May 3, 2017 • 7:42:43pm

re: #267 goddamnedfrank

Bwahaha, the replies are gold:

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retired cynic  May 3, 2017 • 7:49:15pm

re: #267 goddamnedfrank

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I hope her ears end up dragging on her shoulders.

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Pineapple Pizza  May 3, 2017 • 8:42:19pm

re: #266 EPR-radar

If you can’t get rid of a jackass in a normal election, a recall is more likely to fail. E.g., the Walker recall attempt.

Governor Gray Davis may disagree.


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