Heartless Alex Jones Mocks Jimmy Kimmel Over Son’s Heart Defect

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It’s difficult to imagine even Alex Jones’s delusional fans nodding along with his disgusting, astonishingly heartless attack on Jimmy Kimmel and his infant son.

As you watch this vile human waste rant about vaccines, remember: our so-called president Donald Trump considers him a reliable news source with a stellar reputation, and calls him frequently.

ALEX JONES: Oh, look at Jimmy Kimmel, his child has heart defects. It isn’t that they had the child early or had a cesarian, they won’t even tell them that, that that causes heart problems obviously. No, no, no, we’re not going to tell you it’s all the vaccines you took or chemicals you ingested. We’re not going to discuss the vaccines they just gave your child. Let’s just say, “Give us free health care or our babies will die. Don’t our babies deserve it?” When you have state-run health care you have medical tyranny and when you have everyone bound under one system, they can tax you and control you and do whatever they want, once there’s no competition and choice. But it doesn’t matter for the pseudo-intellectuals of Jimmy Kimmel. He can just get up there and say, “We need national health care for my baby.” It’s for the children, sounds so much easier.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 11:07:15am

“Piss off a liberal” commentators are really willing to walk over corpses to do so…

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Citizen K  May 9, 2017 • 11:07:46am

But let us remember, Jimmy Kimmel is somehow the elitist one for talking about this stuff and advocating for better health access. Because caring about other people is considered the height of elitism in this fucking country now.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2017 • 11:08:56am

Looks like the judge made the right decision in the custody battle.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 11:09:43am

re: #2 Citizen K

Because caring about other people is considered the height of elitism in this fucking country now.

“Small Government” and “Free Market” are not just a political policy or an economic mechanism: they are part of an ideology. And preserving this ideology is more important than preserving human life.

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retired cynic  May 9, 2017 • 11:10:34am

Reading that twitter live feed of Eric Garland’s from the Yates hearing yesterday, and it is full of laughs.

And this:

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:11:09am

This guy really is a pathetic asshole. Really, what the fuck is wrong with us as a society that Jimmy Kimmel is being attacked for what he said by anyone? And anyone who calls him an elitist has no fucking clue what that word actually means.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:11:49am

re: #5 retired cynic

Reading that twitter live feed of Eric Garland’s from the Yates hearing yesterday, and it is full of laughs.

And this:

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Leahy is just as if not more progressive than Sanders and effective. Win-win IMO.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 11:12:31am

re: #6 HappyWarrior

This guy really is a pathetic asshole. Really, what the fuck is wrong with us as a society that Jimmy Kimmel is being attacked for what he said by anyone? And anyone who calls him an elitist has no fucking clue what that word actually means.

He disagrees with them about healthcare policy, therefore he is scum who deserves to be attacked mercilessly. That is the level of political discourse in America today, and there are no signs of it improving.

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Kragar  May 9, 2017 • 11:13:06am

Alex is still bitter over the fact a court decided he was too unstable to be granted custody of his own children.

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Citizen K  May 9, 2017 • 11:13:39am

Meanwhile, the KKK-bler Elf is gearing up for his big Great War on Drugs:

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 11:14:00am

re: #9 Kragar

Alex is still bitter over the fact a court decided he was too unstable to be granted custody of his own children.

Also, and maybe more so: Kimmel has a much larger audience.

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Timothy Watson  May 9, 2017 • 11:14:28am

I don’t usually listen to Spicer’s press conferences. How on Earth do you guys manage to listen to this shit?

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2017 • 11:14:29am
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Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 9, 2017 • 11:15:10am

This era is the death-throes of Baby Boomer dominance. Get ready for more and more ugly racist, heartless, self-entitled thrashing of on-air opinion and political anger until Baby Boomers start to die out en mass from natural causes. 20 years or so.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:15:21am

re: #8 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He disagrees with them about healthcare policy, therefore he is scum who deserves to be attacked mercilessly. That is the level of political discourse in America today, and there are no signs of it improving.

Yeah I know man and it’s just so fucking wrong. And as I said, people who call him an elitist are stupid as fuck.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2017 • 11:15:23am

I think today would be a good day for Spicer to finally say “fuck it, I give up; I can’t defend this shit anymore.” Or yesterday.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:15:59am

re: #10 Citizen K

Meanwhile, the KKK-bler Elf is gearing up for his big Great War on Drugs:

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No difference between the two parties. Fuck Sessions.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 11:17:05am

re: #14 Rocky-in-Connecticut

This era is the death-throes of Baby Boomer dominance. Get ready for more and more ugly racist, heartless, self-entitled thrashing of on-air opinion and political anger until Baby Boomers start to die out en mass from natural causes. 20 years or so.

Except Jones, Cruz, and those like them are Gen-Xers, like me and Obama. More fights.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 9, 2017 • 11:17:36am

re: #14 Rocky-in-Connecticut

This era is the death-throes of Baby Boomer dominance. Get ready for more and more ugly racist, heartless, self-entitled thrashing of on-air opinion and political anger until Baby Boomers start to die out en mass from natural causes. 20 years or so.

Fuck you, that is Ziggy Tardis-level derangement.

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 11:18:15am
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wrenchwench  May 9, 2017 • 11:18:23am
medical tyranny

He’s so jealous of anyone who understands the world better than he does. And that bar is so low.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2017 • 11:18:31am

re: #17 HappyWarrior

No difference between the two parties. Fuck Sessions.

A lot of weed-smoking Bernie Bros. gonna find the buzz less chill.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:18:56am

re: #14 Rocky-in-Connecticut

This era is the death-throes of Baby Boomer dominance. Get ready for more and more ugly racist, heartless, self-entitled thrashing of on-air opinion and political anger until Baby Boomers start to die out en mass from natural causes. 20 years or so.

It’s not just the Boomers. There are plenty of millennials that are just as fucked up in how they view the world. And Jones I will point out is Gen X.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:19:36am

re: #20 jaunte

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Yet he’s willing to blame Obama for him. Fucking cwoards.

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 11:19:45am

re: #14 Rocky-in-Connecticut

ugly racist, heartless, self-entitled thrashing

By all evidence, that’s a constant not tied to any particular age.

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Citizen K  May 9, 2017 • 11:20:11am

re: #18 Belafon

Except Jones, Cruz, and those like them are Gen-Xers, like me and Obama. More fights.

And I’ve seen precious little that’s convinced me off my impression that the millennial generation won’t produce even more virulent and open racists and xenophobes than GenX. The only reason it might not produce more is demographic shifts, but we see how easily those can be marginalized, and we’ve seen how powerfully toxic internet, Channer, and Reddit culture has become in fostering a new white supremacy.

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 11:21:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 11:22:23am

re: #26 Citizen K

And I’ve seen precious little that’s convinced me off my impression that the millennial generation won’t produce even more virulent and open racists and xenophobes than GenX. The only reason it might not produce more is demographic shifts, but we see how easily those can be marginalized, and we’ve seen how powerfully toxic internet, Channer, and Reddit culture has become in fostering a new white supremacy.

I see a rise in racism and xenophobia as being tied to a general decline in the level and quality of education, and that started going downhill decades ago.

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Timothy Watson  May 9, 2017 • 11:22:23am

“Someone who was under investigated for possibly being blackmailed by a hostile foreign power was allowed to resign 11 days later! That was a great job! BIGLY YUGE!!1!!”

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:22:44am

re: #26 Citizen K

And I’ve seen precious little that’s convinced me off my impression that the millennial generation won’t produce even more virulent and open racists and xenophobes than GenX. The only reason it might not produce more is demographic shifts, but we see how easily those can be marginalized, and we’ve seen how powerfully toxic internet, Channer, and Reddit culture has become in fostering a new white supremacy.

It really comes down to how you’re raised and your environment. I like to think that my one brother and I have a lot of empathy for people different than we do because of A) How we were raised, B) Grew up in a diverse area, etc. But meanwhile one of our childhood best friends is a dyed in teh wool wingnut who posts things like fuck vegans and BLM.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 11:22:53am

re: #27 jaunte

That would be the statement of an administration that knows they were pwned by her.

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KGxvi  May 9, 2017 • 11:23:11am

re: #8 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He disagrees with them about ratifying the constitution any Hamilton proposal ever abolition the national bank nullification the Civil War Reconstruction Jim Crow universal suffrage the Civil Rights Movement the threat of communism gay rightshealthcare policy, therefore he is scum who deserves to be attacked mercilessly. That is the level of political discourse in America today, and there are no signs of it improving.

Honestly, it’s the same as it ever was. At the founding, we had legitimately partisan newspapers that were vicious. It wasn’t uncommon to call a political opponent a traitor to the revolution. It still happens, the New York Post was founded by Alexander Hamilton to bitch about Aaron Burr and in 2015 they started a piece on New York’s street system with this:

We’ll never have Paris here in New York. But we could have … if not for Aaron Burr.

We’ve gotten slightly better, but I doubt we’ll ever be free of this kind of bullshit.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 11:23:14am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 11:23:46am

re: #27 jaunte

Sean Spicer just called Sally Yates a “political opponent of the POTUS.”

…Yates is a 30-yr DOJ employee who was appointed by a Republican

Because these ongoing investigations have to be framed as political persecution and retribution, not government employees and state servants doing their job and fulfilling the law and the Constitution.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:24:10am

re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I see a rise in racism and xenophobia as being tied to a general decline in the level and quality of education, and that started going downhill decades ago.

That’s part of it but I’ll point out to you that Richard Spencer, Stephen Miller, and many others are in fact highly educated individuals. The fact is modern racism as espoused by those types has a strong “intellectual” undercurrent running through it.

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 11:24:30am

re: #31 Belafon

Like the WH counsel’s question why she would be concerned about one WH official lying to another, they seem to be able to understand issues only through a political lens.

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darthstar  May 9, 2017 • 11:25:05am
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Bubblehead II  May 9, 2017 • 11:25:05am

re: #3 Barefoot Grin

Looks like the judge made the right decision in the custody battle.

Looking forward to him coming to Idaho and getting his fat ass handed to him in the Chobani defamation trial.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 11:25:20am

re: #14 Rocky-in-Connecticut

This era is the death-throes of Baby Boomer dominance. Get ready for more and more ugly racist, heartless, self-entitled thrashing of on-air opinion and political anger until Baby Boomers start to die out en mass from natural causes. 20 years or so.

Yeah, all those Baby Boomers like Richard Spencer, Tila Tequila, Chuck C. Johnson, Pax Dickenson, &c &c &c.

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darthstar  May 9, 2017 • 11:26:12am
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lawhawk  May 9, 2017 • 11:26:19am
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KGxvi  May 9, 2017 • 11:27:06am

re: #41 lawhawk

About gotdam time, Lindsey.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 11:27:27am

re: #35 HappyWarrior

That’s part of it but I’ll point out to you that Richard Spencer, Stephen Miller, and many others are in fact highly educated individuals. The fact is modern racism as espoused by those types has a strong “intellectual” undercurrent running through it.

That is true. All it takes is a few highly educated demagogues: when the masses are unaware of the basics of civics, US and world history, science, anthropology and race, etc., it makes them easier to sway with selective reference to a few isolated facts to support totally spurious points of view.

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Bubblehead II  May 9, 2017 • 11:28:49am

re: #14 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Excuse me?

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Citizen K  May 9, 2017 • 11:29:15am

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Much the same as how organizations like Al-Qaida, ISIS, etc, have educated, and often wealthy, supporters or leaders at their foundation, directing traffic.

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makeitstop  May 9, 2017 • 11:29:38am

re: #41 lawhawk

Senator Graham wants to probe Trump’s business dealings

I could be very wrong, but it appears that Graham has figured out which way the wind is blowing on this.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 11:29:44am

re: #41 lawhawk

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darthstar  May 9, 2017 • 11:29:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 11:30:04am

re: #41 lawhawk

JUST IN: Senator Graham wants to probe Trump’s business dealings — @mkraju has the details

Robert Reich was on about that earlier today. Take this as a sign that the GOP is ready to cut its losses now before the whole truth comes out in all its party-wrecking ugliness…

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:30:16am

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is true. All it takes is a few highly educated demagogues: when the masses are unaware of the basics of civics, US and world history, science, anthropology and race, etc., it makes them easier to sway with selective reference to a few isolated facts to support totally spurious points of view.

The elites create the racism and then dumb it down to the masses. Spencer can probably write essays justifying his racist ethos whereas the common racist just sees “They look different than me, therefore they’re my inferior.”

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:30:39am

re: #45 Citizen K

Much the same as how organizations like Al-Qaida, ISIS, etc, have educated, and often wealthy, supporters or leaders at their foundation, directing traffic.

Yep.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2017 • 11:30:45am

“I get it.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 11:31:12am

re: #46 makeitstop

I could be very wrong, but it appears that Graham has figured out which way the wind is blowing on this.

While other Republicans were blowing smoke in the Russia hearing yesterday, Graham seemed actually care that Russia is manipulating our elections. It’s Putinist-party before country for the rest of them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 11:33:07am

re: #45 Citizen K

Much the same as how organizations like Al-Qaida, ISIS, etc, have educated, and often wealthy, supporters or leaders at their foundation, directing traffic.

Remember the Mohammed cartoons? The leaders of the Arab world were aware of the concept of Free Speech in the West, but presented them to a populace who only knew a state-controlled press and assumed that anything appearing in the newspapers must have the active approval of the government.

They did that with full intent to arouse the masses.

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Kragar  May 9, 2017 • 11:33:53am
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darthstar  May 9, 2017 • 11:34:04am
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Timothy Watson  May 9, 2017 • 11:34:28am

Have any of the reporters bothered to note that Yates briefed White House Counsel days before Trump signed his Muslim Ban executive order?
abcnews.go.com

So how could her future failure to implement the executive order color their view of her briefing of the White House counsel? (assuming a linear theory of time)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 11:34:36am

re: #53 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

While other Republicans were blowing smoke in the Russia hearing yesterday, Graham seemed actually care that Russia is manipulating our elections. It’s Putinist-party before country for the rest of them.

It is clear to anyone not ideologically blindered that Trump’s business interest are influencing his political decisions, and not always to the benefit of the nation.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:35:10am

re: #56 darthstar

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Yeah I’m sure Obama would have gotten off just fine if they ignored anyone who was a Bush appointee. These fuckwads.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2017 • 11:35:19am

Maybe someone should remind him that Pres. Obama also warned Trump about Flynn, so there shouldn’t have been anything confusing about Yates’ warning.

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Timothy Watson  May 9, 2017 • 11:35:24am

re: #48 darthstar

Angry husband: “What the hell are you doing in bed with my wife?” @PressSec “I don’t want to lie here and relitigate that.”

I was just giving her a “heads up”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 11:35:31am

re: #57 Timothy Watson

So how could her future failure to implement the executive order color their view of her briefing of the White House counsel? (assuming a linear theory of time)

We all know that Obama has a Soros-funded, deep-state Tardis.

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KGxvi  May 9, 2017 • 11:36:57am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We all know that Obama has a Soros-funded, deep-state Tardis.

Doctor Who - Blink - Big ball of wibbly wobbly… time-y wimey… stuff.

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Kragar  May 9, 2017 • 11:38:20am
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darthstar  May 9, 2017 • 11:38:29am
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FormerDirtDart  May 9, 2017 • 11:39:02am

re: #27 jaunte

Hell, she was brought into the DoJ by Bob Barr.

Bob freakin’ Barr

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:39:25am

re: #65 darthstar

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What a pathetic excuse. These fucking people need to go.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:40:15am

re: #66 FormerDirtDart

Hell, she was brought into the DoJ by Bob Barr.

Bob freakin’ Barr

I didn’t know that. It’s all about unconditional loyalty with Trump though.

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KGxvi  May 9, 2017 • 11:40:40am

re: #65 darthstar

Between the Repeal and Go Fuck Yourself Healthcare Law and Spicer’s vaudevillian shows, there are going to be a whole lot of untreated concussions in this country from repeated headdesk reactions.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 11:40:54am

re: #65 darthstar

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darthstar  May 9, 2017 • 11:41:31am

Okay, this press conference is just pissing me off…headed to the gym.

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 11:41:37am
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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 11:42:25am

re: #72 jaunte

“Lie when I know the answer.”

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Joe Bacon  May 9, 2017 • 11:43:06am

I can’t wait for Jimmy and Stephen to tag team the TexAssHole over his heartless remarks.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 11:43:19am

re: #66 FormerDirtDart

Hell, she was brought into the DoJ by Bob Barr.

Bob freakin’ Barr

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2017 • 11:43:33am
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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2017 • 11:46:20am
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Joe Bacon  May 9, 2017 • 11:46:54am

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Yet another Trump asskisser…

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:47:12am

I just find myself wondering everyday how the hell this country got here? I know we’ve always been flawed but it’s gotten a lot worse it seems to me. Now maybe for some, it’s always been like this to a degree.

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lawhawk  May 9, 2017 • 11:47:42am

re: #57 Timothy Watson

Have any of the reporters bothered to note that Yates briefed White House Counsel days before Trump signed his Muslim Ban executive order?
abcnews.go.com

So how could her future failure to implement the executive order color their view of her briefing of the White House counsel? (assuming a linear theory of time)

If anything, it appears that the WH Counsel, McGahn is a lunatic who doesn’t get the concept of the rule of law, or what it means to be responsible for the legality and actions of people within the White House. That he thinks there’s no problem with members of the WH lying to each other is a huge problem. In fact, it goes to the heart of the matter.

Obama warned Trump about Flynn.
Yates warned Trump/WH about Flynn.
Flynn lied.
Yates talked with McGahn, who didn’t understand/care that there was lying going on about what Flynn was doing.
Flynn lied some more.
In fact, Flynn lied the entire time he was in Trump’s employ - lying about who he was working for, his intentions, motives, etc., and Trump didn’t care, because he was Trump’s kind of guy.

McGahn didn’t get that all of this has direct national security implications.

Of course he wouldn’t. He’s one of Trump’s personal lawyers and doesn’t have the kind of experience needed to protect the nation from potential threats like this (or care). McGahn is more concerned about cutting regulations than he is in making sure that the administration adheres to the rule of law, or that people aren’t running afoul of the law.

McGahn didn’t care - and he put his client - Trump - in jeopardy. Yates’ warning McGahn of the lying by Flynn and Flynn potentially being compromised by Russia should have sent up red flags that were acted on immediately. Instead, it was weeks later - in fact, it goes back months (to when Obama first warned Trump).

A sane/normal president would heed the warnings by the outgoing president and his admin if there are national security threats that might extend to personnel decisions being made. That would call for more scrutiny of those individuals, not a complete pass whereby the person doesn’t even get their clearance checked (as appears to have been the case with Flynn?!)

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Timothy Watson  May 9, 2017 • 11:47:50am

re: #76 Charles Johnson

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Has he gotten any questions? I’ve been listening with the video playing in another tab while working.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 11:48:22am
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Joe Bacon  May 9, 2017 • 11:48:23am

re: #79 HappyWarrior

I just find myself wondering everyday how the hell this country got here? I know we’ve always been flawed but it’s gotten a lot worse it seems to me. Now maybe for some, it’s always been like this to a degree.

Happy this is the end result of the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 11:49:18am

re: #79 HappyWarrior

I just find myself wondering everyday how the hell this country got here? I know we’ve always been flawed but it’s gotten a lot worse it seems to me. Now maybe for some, it’s always been like this to a degree.

DT was able to parley a popular vote minority into an EC victory. He took advantage of a dysfunctional electoral system, divided political parties, and a sensation-obsessed, celebrity-loving press.

It worked for him and his cronies, and will be a disaster for the rest of us.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 9, 2017 • 11:49:40am

re: #2 Citizen K

But let us remember, Jimmy Kimmel is somehow the elitist one for talking about this stuff and advocating for better health access. Because caring about other people is considered the height of elitism in this fucking country now.

Jimmy Kimmel also said not to give tax cuts to millionaires like him.

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  May 9, 2017 • 11:49:56am

Bob Owens, the blogger formerly known as “Confederate Yankee” and most recently behind the “Bearing Arms” site that pushes for MOAR GUNZ! … and a man known to this site’s owner …

… was found dead of a gunshot wound. Early reports point to self-inflicted, rather than crime.

Nobody on the conservative sites seems to recognize the contradiction here.

There is irony here, but it is sad irony. He left behind a family that is clearly devastated.

I paged this.

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Timothy Watson  May 9, 2017 • 11:49:57am

WTF? Did Spicer just run out of there again? Did he need to get another bottle of Pepto for the ulcer?

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:50:50am

re: #83 Joe Bacon

Happy this is the end result of the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine!

I agree. It’s just gotten so ugly. I mean what Jimmy Kimmel talked about is something we all hypothetically should rally around- the idea that no child should have to worry about not getting an important medical procedure done because of their socio-economic status. But instead I have to see Alex Jones, dickhead Amir whatshisface, and others attacking Kimmel for having the nerve to say that all children should be able to get what his son got.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 11:51:27am

re: #79 HappyWarrior

I just find myself wondering everyday how the hell this country got here? I know we’ve always been flawed but it’s gotten a lot worse it seems to me. Now maybe for some, it’s always been like this to a degree.

We had many decades of stability and prosperity, but failed to use that time and money to educate the entire population. We just weren’t socialist enough to build a bridge to the 21st century for the majority of the people.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:51:34am

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

DT was able to parley a popular vote minority into an EC victory. He took advantage of a dysfunctional electoral system, divided political parties, and a sensation-obsessed, celebrity-loving press.

It worked for him and his cronies, and will be a disaster for the rest of us.

It ain’t just Trump though. Even if Trump doesn’t win the nomination, Cruz probably does and Cruz represents just as much ugliness and heartlessness as Trump deos.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:51:47am

re: #85 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Jimmy Kimmel also said not to give tax cuts to millionaires like him.

What an elitist. //

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2017 • 11:51:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 11:52:40am

re: #89 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

We had many decades of stability and prosperity, but failed to use that time and money to educate the entire population. We just weren’t socialist enough to build a bridge to the 21st century for the majority of the people.

or rebuild our infrastructure or reform our energy policy or update our Internet access for broad areas of the countryside, etc…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 11:53:16am

re: #90 HappyWarrior

It ain’t just Trump though. Even if Trump doesn’t win the nomination, Cruz probably does and Cruz represents just as much ugliness and heartlessness as Trump deos.

This is what happens when a party is made up of propagandists and rubes. The Republican party has been suffering a brain-drain for a long time, just like the rural areas that support the party. Trump is a symptom, not the disease.

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FormerDirtDart  May 9, 2017 • 11:54:27am

Yeah, that never typically happens to senior DoJ personnel, with nearly three decades of tenure…

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:55:20am

re: #94 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

This is what happens when a party is made up of propagandists and rubes. The Republican party has been suffering a brain-drain for a long time, just like the rural areas that support the party. Trump is a symptom, not the disease.

Right, that’s absolutely right. IMO the GOP has been on a slow downhill decline ever since Lincoln died. They’ve had some graet presidents since then like Teddy and Ike but I’ll note that Ike especially was very different than many of his Republican contempories on the issues.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 11:55:33am

re: #79 HappyWarrior

I just find myself wondering everyday how the hell this country got here? I know we’ve always been flawed but it’s gotten a lot worse it seems to me. Now maybe for some, it’s always been like this to a degree.

Go look up the US around the turn of the 20th century. Whites back then were fighting against immigrants and the rights of minorities. At least now, there’s a large chunk of people fighting back.

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Kragar  May 9, 2017 • 11:55:45am
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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:55:50am

re: #95 FormerDirtDart

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Yeah, that never typically happens to senior DoJ personnel, with nearly three decades of tenure…

Spicey’s such a worm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 11:55:54am

re: #95 FormerDirtDart

What’s evidence for Sally Yates supporting Clinton? Spicer says it “was widely rumored” she’d have a job in a Clinton administration DOJ.

Yeah, that never typically happens to senior DoJ personnel, with nearly three decades of tenure…

again, it is about turning this into a political with hunt and deep-state conspiracy and not a matter of public servants actually doing their appointed job of serving the public.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 11:56:41am

re: #97 Belafon

Go look up the US around the turn of the 20th century. Whites back then were fighting against immigrants and the rights of minorities. At least now, there’s a large chunk of people fighting back.

Yeah true history is repeating itself.

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Timothy Watson  May 9, 2017 • 11:56:46am

re: #95 FormerDirtDart

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Yeah, that never typically happens to senior DoJ personnel, with nearly three decades of tenure…

Also worth mentioning that Trump fired (dismissed) Yates but allowed Flynn to resign.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 11:58:22am

re: #102 Timothy Watson

Also worth mentioning that Trump fired (dismissed) Yates but allowed Flynn to resign.

Yates isn’t Putin’s puppet, or a useful idiot, so she and Trump are very different. Flynn was Trump’s boy. They have so much in common. Delusion and corruption come to mind.

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lawhawk  May 9, 2017 • 11:58:30am

re: #86 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

Sweet jeebus. He was one of the bloggers who I regularly read back in the day. Thoughts and prayers to his family and friends.

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lawhawk  May 9, 2017 • 11:58:52am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 11:59:23am

re: #105 lawhawk

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It did excite worthless bigots.

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mmmirele  May 9, 2017 • 11:59:43am

Since we’ve been talking about Instant Pot, I thought I’d probe the Lizardim to see if there are any opinions on bullet mixers. A cooking TV show (Cooks Illustrated, I think, but could be wrong) had a segment on bullet mixers and said that the Nutri Ninja was the best after its testing. Anyone have experience with this? TIA.

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Timothy Watson  May 9, 2017 • 12:00:32pm

re: #105 lawhawk

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Did she have a thrill going up her leg?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 9, 2017 • 12:01:28pm

re: #97 Belafon

Go look up the US around the turn of the 20th century. Whites back then were fighting against immigrants and the rights of minorities. At least now, there’s a large chunk of people fighting back.

Fuckin’ white people. We’re not all assholes, but enough of us sure are.

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BigPapa  May 9, 2017 • 12:01:53pm

re: #104 lawhawk

That’s a bummer. Deepest empathy for person that chose that solution, and the family and friends.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 12:02:27pm

re: #107 mmmirele

Since we’ve been talking about Instant Pot, I thought I’d probe the Lizardim to see if there are any opinions on bullet mixers. A cooking TV show (Cooks Illustrated, I think, but could be wrong) had a segment on bullet mixers and said that the Nutri Ninja was the best after its testing. Anyone have experience with this? TIA.

I have this one. nutribullet.com
The site is crackpot, but the blender works well.
It has me consuming vegetables, which people say is good for me.
It will squirt some of the contents through the gasket and into the base if you overfill it.

A regular blender will be a better choice if you want to do more than make smoothies.

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BigPapa  May 9, 2017 • 12:03:41pm

re: #109 Blind Frog Belly White

Fuckin’ white people. We’re not all assholes, but enough of us sure are.

I had to study what the term ‘wypipo’ meant recently. Let’s just say my understanding of race has grown greatly over the last year just listening to black folk on social media.

There’s a lot of work to do. Especially white people. And wypipo, they have even more work to do.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 12:03:47pm

re: #105 lawhawk

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She got sexual excitement from Trump banning people? Okay Nicole…….. The other thing is this ban is a direct violation of Hart-Cellar. But then again, Republicans like Bachmann and Sessions and Trump consider that law the reason for our “decline” as a nation. And that very law is why so many of my friends, co-workers, and now extended famliy were able to come here. This country would have been even more diverse years ago if discrimination based on place of origin wasn’t banned.

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Nyet  May 9, 2017 • 12:04:06pm

re: #3 Barefoot Grin

Looks like the judge made the right decision in the custody battle.

Nah, Jones should have been cut off entirely.

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KGxvi  May 9, 2017 • 12:04:07pm

re: #96 HappyWarrior

Right, that’s absolutely right. IMO the GOP has been on a slow downhill decline ever since Lincoln died. They’ve had some graet presidents since then like Teddy and Ike but I’ll note that Ike especially was very different than many of his Republican contempories on the issues.

Eisenhower was an independent for most of his life, and didn’t believe career soldiers should run for public office. Although both parties courted him in ‘48 and ‘52 (Truman actually offered to be Eisenhower’s running mate in ‘48).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 12:04:55pm

re: #104 lawhawk

Sweet jeebus. He was one of the bloggers who I regularly read back in the day. Thoughts and prayers to his family and friends.

First I wish he’d gotten psychiatric help. Secondly I wish if he had to do it, he didn’t do it in public, and leave an unsecured gun laying with his corpse.

I would never own a gun because I suffer from clinical depression, and a gun makes suicide way too quick and easy.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 12:05:09pm

re: #109 Blind Frog Belly White

Fuckin’ white people. We’re not all assholes, but enough of us sure are.

Too goddamn many of us have forgotten that so many of our ancestors came too hungry and wanting to be accepted. I never knew any of my immigrant ancestors but their story is a big part of why I welcome immigrants. I want them and their descendants to enjoy what I have as an American. And nothing could be more American than that IMO.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 12:05:46pm

re: #115 KGxvi

Eisenhower was an independent for most of his life, and didn’t believe career soldiers should run for public office. Although both parties courted him in ‘48 and ‘52 (Truman actually offered to be Eisenhower’s running mate in ‘48).

Yep, he could have ran with either party.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 12:05:58pm

re: #109 Blind Frog Belly White

Fuckin’ white people. We’re not all assholes, but enough of us sure are.

Agree, enough of us are. One of the things that really frustrates me is I’m in an area with a lot of upper class white people. They couldn’t give a shit about what’s going on with Trump because they don’t think it will affect them.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 12:06:29pm

re: #112 BigPapa

I had to study what the term ‘wypipo’ meant recently. Let’s just say my understanding of race has grown greatly over the last year just listening to black folk on social media.

There’s a lot of work to do. Especially white people. And wypipo, they have even more work to do.

So many of us just don’t want to listen. We want to bitch about PC but we don’t want to listen to people’s concerns about their country.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 12:06:45pm

re: #109 Blind Frog Belly White

Fuckin’ white people. We’re not all assholes, but enough of us sure are.

Any majority-race seems to turn into assholes to minorities, and more so as they lose majority status. It just happens to be white people in America.

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FormerDirtDart  May 9, 2017 • 12:11:09pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 9, 2017 • 12:11:20pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 12:11:36pm

re: #121 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Any majority-race seems to turn into assholes to minorities, and more so as they lose majority status. It just happens to be white people in America.

It goes beyond that, it is the famous strategy playing the poor whites off against the minorities. At some point, the minorities start pushing back. The British did that in Northern Ireland with the Protestant settlers and the Catholic natives, and it led to civil war and decades of unrest.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 9, 2017 • 12:12:01pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Jimmy Kimmel grew up in the same neighborhood as me, a lower to middle middle-class neighborhood and went to the same schools. Very few were rich and Kimmel’s family was not one of them. Most families were just scraping by.

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FormerDirtDart  May 9, 2017 • 12:13:10pm
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Nyet  May 9, 2017 • 12:13:31pm

The only thing interesting about Jones is why he still hasn’t popped a vessel.

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Stanley Sea  May 9, 2017 • 12:14:22pm

re: #112 BigPapa

I had to study what the term ‘wypipo’ meant recently. Let’s just say my understanding of race has grown greatly over the last year just listening to black folk on social media.

There’s a lot of work to do. Especially white people. And wypipo, they have even more work to do.

QFT

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 12:15:05pm

re: #125 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

American talk radio host, actor and filmmaker, Alexander Emerick “Alex” Jones, has an estimated net worth of $5 million.
therichest.com

It’s clearly not about money. If a person can think, and dismiss conspiracy theories, they’re elitist to Jones, who’s made a fortune feeding bullshit to stupid people. I can see why he likes Trump.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 9, 2017 • 12:15:40pm

re: #121 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Any majority-race seems to turn into assholes to minorities, and more so as they lose majority status. It just happens to be white people in America.

But not ONLY in America.

Years ago, someone asked my if I wasn’t proud to be white because of all white people had accomplished. It struck me as an odd question. I guess I’d say that being white isn’t that important to me.

Mind you, that’s a big part of white privilege - to be able to choose not to care about being white, because you still get all the benefits. I don’t think you get to choose, if you’re nonwhite, not to care about your race, because everyone else will.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 12:16:09pm

re: #125 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Jimmy Kimmel grew up in the same neighborhood as me, a lower to middle middle-class neighborhood and went to the same schools. Very few were rich and Kimmel’s family was not one of them. Most families were just scraping by.

People who call him an elitist are being so stupid. I wonder what his old pal Carrolla thinks of all this since Carrolla very much has that fuck you, I got mine mentality that Jimmy’s railing aagainst.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 12:17:19pm

re: #129 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

American talk radio host, actor and filmmaker, Alexander Emerick “Alex” Jones, has an estimated net worth of $5 million.
therichest.com

It’s clearly not about money. If a person can think, and dismiss conspiracy theories, they’re elitist to Jones, who’s made a fortune feeding bullshit to stupid people. I can see why he likes Trump.

It’s so fucked up that he’s become a millionaire doing this.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2017 • 12:17:19pm

re: #125 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Jimmy Kimmel grew up in the same neighborhood as me, a lower to middle middle-class neighborhood and went to the same schools. Very few were rich and Kimmel’s family was not one of them. Most families were just scraping by.

I think that’s the main connection between Kimmel and his former partner and friend Adam Carolla (sp?). They both came from lower-middle class backgrounds and had to sleep in cars and crappy apartments as they struggled to make it because there was no money behind them. AC is kind of a dick, though, and at least in his persona, would absolutely not agree with Kimmel.

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Jack Burton  May 9, 2017 • 12:18:05pm

re: #4 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Small Government” and “Free Market” are not just a political policy or an economic mechanism: they are part of an ideology. And preserving this ideology is more important than preserving human life.

I know I’m preaching to the choir on this but, “Small Government” does not mean what they think it means (and probably never really has) but regardless it began to be less and less of a realistic or valid way of doing things by World War 2. The Cold War accelerated it’s demise. By the end of the Cold War in 1992, “Small Government” was already dead and decayed and there was no going back. By this time even if it was a nuclear free world, all the other realities of the world made it invalid, foolish, and basically equivalent to anarchy.

It took me decades to put all this together and finally ditch the idea like the garbage that it was, and I’m exceptionally intelligent compared to the average person. (Confirmation Bias, among other things, is a harsh mistress).

Also “Free Market” doesn’t mean what they think it means either.

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FormerDirtDart  May 9, 2017 • 12:18:06pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 12:18:28pm

re: #130 Blind Frog Belly White

But not ONLY in America.

Years ago, someone asked my if I wasn’t proud to be white because of all white people had accomplished. It struck me as an odd question. I guess I’d say that being white isn’t that important to me.

Mind you, that’s a big part of white privilege - to be able to choose not to care about being white, because you still get all the benefits. I don’t think you get to choose, if you’re nonwhite, not to care about your race, because everyone else will.

Sure. Anywhere the British and Europeans wiped out the indigenous populations.

A counter-example is the Afrikaners who enslaved a majority, so white people may really be worse.

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KGxvi  May 9, 2017 • 12:18:46pm

re: #126 FormerDirtDart

And then she’ll drive you to a divorce lawyer! Will work out perfectly!

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 12:20:13pm

re: #133 Barefoot Grin

I think that’s the main connection between Kimmel and his former partner and friend Adam Carolla (sp?). They both came from lower-middle class backgrounds and had to sleep in cars and crappy apartments as they struggled to make it because there was no money behind them. AC is kind of a dick, though, and at least in his persona, would absolutely not agree with Kimmel.

I’ve been thinking about Adam a lot lately since Jimmy’s shown himself to be the more compassionate minded of the two men. I really enjoyed both of them back in the day when they co-hosted the Man Show together and I liked Adam on Loveline too but he’s shown himself to be a bit of a dick. It’s not his politics. It’s this idea that he made it and if you don’t make it big, you suck, I don’t get that vibe from Jimmy at all. Jimmy’s far from my favorite late show host but I like the guy as a person. You definitely saw how much he loves his family the way he talked about his wife and two kids in teh monologue last week which you think that the “pro family” conesrvatives would embrace ut noooooo.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 9, 2017 • 12:21:06pm

re: #130 Blind Frog Belly White

But not ONLY in America.

Years ago, someone asked my if I wasn’t proud to be white because of all white people had accomplished.

You need to remind them that the white settlers to the southern American colonies were TOO LAZY to put in the hard work of raising tobacco, cotton and sugar cane, and found it easier to import slaves and threaten them with hunger, pain and even death if they refused to work for free…

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BigPapa  May 9, 2017 • 12:21:28pm

I just watched two documentaries that heavily addressed race. Both are recommended.

Crips and Bloods: Made In America

I thought this movie might be a little violence and gang bang porn. There are some images of violence for sure. But it does a good job if digging into the history of LA and the evolution of gangs. And, it humanizes the gang members without excusing or justifying the violence.

LA 92

This was compelling, also going through historical context in depth. I remembered some things, including my own thoughts and feelings at the time. But some new information was added.

Bonus Documentary: Oklahoma City

Examined the McVeigh and his motivations, and the event, but a lot of time spent reviewing the historical context of white supremacy and the right wing going back to Ruby Ridge, Waco/David Koresh, and even back to the murder of Alan Berg at the hands of white supremacists.

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lawhawk  May 9, 2017 • 12:21:50pm

re: #125 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

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goddamnedfrank  May 9, 2017 • 12:23:30pm
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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 12:23:38pm

IF the far lefties do have one thing right, there’s something wrong with a society where a man’s self-worth is determined by how much he makes. Where I disagree with them is I don’t agree that being a monetarily wealthy man makes one a bad man.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 9, 2017 • 12:24:46pm

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You need to remind them that the white settlers to the southern American colonies were TOO LAZY to put in the hard work of raising tobacco, cotton and sugar cane, and found it easier to import slaves and threaten them with hunger, pain and even death if they refused to work for free…

Unrestrained capitalism, exploiting resources. You won’t shame wingnuts with that.

Changing personnel departments to “Human Resources” is worrying from that perspective.

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Mike Lamb  May 9, 2017 • 12:25:08pm

re: #142 goddamnedfrank

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Oh, a certified letter. In that case…

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 12:25:18pm

re: #135 FormerDirtDart

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Doesn’t anyone proofread anything? My boss is meticulous as hell about any sort of thing. He’ll have suggest that I remove double periods in letters.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2017 • 12:27:42pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

I’ve been thinking about Adam a lot lately since Jimmy’s shown himself to be the more compassionate minded of the two men. I really enjoyed both of them back in the day when they co-hosted the Man Show together and I liked Adam on Loveline too but he’s shown himself to be a bit of a dick. It’s not his politics. It’s this idea that he made it and if you don’t make it big, you suck, I don’t get that vibe from Jimmy at all. Jimmy’s far from my favorite late show host but I like the guy as a person. You definitely saw how much he loves his family the way he talked about his wife and two kids in teh monologue last week which you think that the “pro family” conesrvatives would embrace ut noooooo.

I used to listen to AC’s podcast. He’s a funny guy. But, yes, the percentage of time spent making funny observations to time spent bitching about welfare cheats began to dwindle, so I gave it up.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 9, 2017 • 12:29:11pm

U.S. General Seeks ‘a Few Thousand’ More Troops in Afghanistan

He did everything he could to keep us out of more war
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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 12:29:45pm

re: #147 Barefoot Grin

I used to listen to AC’s podcast. He’s a funny guy. But, yes, the percentage of time spent making funny observations to time spent bitching about welfare cheats began to dwindle, so I gave it up.

Yeah he can be a funny and insightful guy but yeah he’s become like Gene Simmons with the way he looks down on people. Good for Adam, he made it, that’s not a reason to be an asshole. I don’t know if Jimmy and him are still friends but maybe Jimmy’s monologue hit home to him but then again me having a pre-existing condition doesn’t make my one good friend anyless of a wingnut.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 12:30:27pm

re: #148 Unshaken Defiance

U.S. General Seeks ‘a Few Thousand’ More Troops in Afghanistan

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There are rising high school juniors that were born the year that we went into Afghanistan.

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Jay C  May 9, 2017 • 12:31:25pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

He’s probably still pissed that the French Parliament wouldn’t let him address them about the Macron leaks on a day’s notice before the election. How dare they!

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 12:33:33pm

We’re going to end up being in Afghanistan longer than we were in Vietnam.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 12:33:43pm

But hey Hillary was the real warmongrel. //

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Jay C  May 9, 2017 • 12:36:40pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

We’re going to end up being in Afghanistan longer than we were in Vietnam The Philippines.

At current trends…..

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 9, 2017 • 12:36:47pm

re: #133 Barefoot Grin

Always thought Carolla was a dick. I think Kimmel’s best friend is Cleto Escobedo. They are like family, grew up on the same street.

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Timothy Watson  May 9, 2017 • 12:37:23pm

re: #153 HappyWarrior

But hey Hillary was the real warmongrel. //

And now Trump is going to arm Syrian Kurds, what could possibly go wrong…

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 9, 2017 • 12:41:23pm

re: #141 lawhawk

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 9, 2017 • 12:42:17pm

re: #140 BigPapa

I just watched two documentaries that heavily addressed race. Both are recommended.

Crips and Bloods: Made In America

I thought this movie might be a little violence and gang bang porn. There are some images of violence for sure. But it does a good job if digging into the history of LA and the evolution of gangs. And, it humanizes the gang members without excusing or justifying the violence.

LA 92

This was compelling, also going through historical context in depth. I remembered some things, including my own thoughts and feelings at the time. But some new information was added.

Bonus Documentary: Oklahoma City

Examined the McVeigh and his motivations, and the event, but a lot of time spent reviewing the historical context of white supremacy and the right wing going back to Ruby Ridge, Waco/David Koresh, and even back to the murder of Alan Berg at the hands of white supremacists.

I just saw the Oklahoma City documentary and it was really good. I’ll have to check out the other two. On Netflix?

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MsJ  May 9, 2017 • 12:42:38pm

re: #70 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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BadgerB  May 9, 2017 • 12:50:55pm

re: #142 goddamnedfrank

Please do Mr President, we welcome your statement about this aspect of your finances on the record…please note that, as your lawyer may explain to you, making false statements to congress may have legal consequences.

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ObserverArt  May 9, 2017 • 1:08:56pm

re: #14 Rocky-in-Connecticut

This era is the death-throes of Baby Boomer dominance. Get ready for more and more ugly racist, heartless, self-entitled thrashing of on-air opinion and political anger until Baby Boomers start to die out en mass from natural causes. 20 years or so.

Nice paint brush you have there…very big and wide.

As a boomer myself let me tell you how wrong you are to paint the entire generation the way you do. Myself and many of my friends are all very liberal. Sure, there are some blockheads around, but I don’t have much to do with them.

But here is the real deal. You obviously have your mind made up and probably because of that fact aren’t looking at the big picture.

Look around and tell me how old many of the new alt-right types are. Get back to us when you learn something about those ages. If you read this site much, and actually take in the facts you will see much discussion and worry in the younger LGF members concerned about what they are seeing from their own age brackets.

Ignorance is this country’s biggest issue and you are being ignorant.

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ObserverArt  May 9, 2017 • 1:11:49pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

That’s part of it but I’ll point out to you that Richard Spencer, Stephen Miller, and many others are in fact highly educated individuals. The fact is modern racism as espoused by those types has a strong “intellectual” undercurrent running through it.

Which makes them even more dangerous because they spout their hate like it is fact backed up in books.

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  May 9, 2017 • 1:11:59pm

re: #110 BigPapa

That’s a bummer. Deepest empathy for person that chose that solution, and the family and friends.

I can empathize. But part of me is enraged even further by the blithe ignorance of the central fact of Bob’s death: that he was depressed. And he had easy access to a gun, and apparently little access to mental health care.

Now multiply that by, oh, say, the adult population of the United States.

I don’t want to add to their pain. I think that it would be ghoulish to gleefully hang on the rim about his death. But at some point, there should be some connection made between the policies that he pursued … and the way they tie into his killing himself. And so many other people killing themselves.

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BeachDem  May 9, 2017 • 1:21:13pm

re: #32 KGxvi

Honestly, it’s the same as it ever was. At the founding, we had legitimately partisan newspapers that were vicious. It wasn’t uncommon to call a political opponent a traitor to the revolution. It still happens, the New York Post was founded by Alexander Hamilton to bitch about Aaron Burr and in 2015 they started a piece on New York’s street system with this:

We’ve gotten slightly better, but I doubt we’ll ever be free of this kind of bullshit.

[BURR]
How does Hamilton the short-tempered
Protean creator of the Coast Guard
Founder of the New York Post
Ardently abuse his cab’net post
Destroy his reputation?
Welcome, folks, to

[BURR/COMPANY]
The Adams administration!

[BURR]
Jefferson’s the runner-up, which makes him the Vice President

[JEFFERSON]
Washington can’t help you now, no more mister nice President

[BURR]
Adams fires Hamilton
Privately calls him “creole bastard” in his taunts

[JEFFERSON]
Say what?!

[BURR]
Hamilton publishes his response

[HAMILTON]
Sit down, John, you fat mother—[BLEEP]

The Adams Administration

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TedStriker  May 9, 2017 • 1:26:43pm

re: #142 goddamnedfrank

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Or signed: Donnie’s Mom.

Juan Epstein would be proud…

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BeachDem  May 9, 2017 • 1:47:04pm

re: #142 goddamnedfrank

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Spicer says Trump has engaged a DC law firm to send a certified letter to Lindsey Graham stating that he has no Russian financial ties.

Probably the other brother of his amazing doctor.
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darthstar  May 9, 2017 • 1:59:40pm

Lindsey Graham’s investigation is about to come to an end…Spicer says that a lawyer will send a CERTIFIED letter stating that Trump has no Russian ties. With a stamp and everything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2017 • 2:44:31pm

re: #14 Rocky-in-Connecticut

This era is the death-throes of Baby Boomer dominance. Get ready for more and more ugly racist, heartless, self-entitled thrashing of on-air opinion and political anger until Baby Boomers start to die out en mass from natural causes. 20 years or so.

I have noted your concern and have decided that it’s not worth my sympathy.
I shall make a point of enjoying the next 20 years of my Baby Boomer life in your honor.

ETA: I’ve been paying into Social Security for just about 50 years (and in all those years have been hearing how SS will not be viable by the time I retire…HAHAHAAAA!) and look forward to my very first somewhat pitiful SS check next month.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 5:40:46pm

re: #14 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Enough with this fucking generation bashing at LGF. Fucking bullshit.


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