FBI Director James Comey Learned About His Firing From Television News

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It may not be the worst aspect of Trump’s Tuesday Night Massacre, but it illustrates the sheer incompetence and cowardice of the Trump gang; FBI director Comey apparently learned he had been fired while he was speaking to FBI employees in Los Angeles, from TV screens showing breaking news reports.

Mr. Comey, who is three years into a 10-year term at the helm of the F.B.I., learned from news reports that he had been fired while addressing bureau employees in Los Angeles. While Mr. Comey spoke, television screens in the background began flashing the news. Shortly after, a letter was delivered to F.B.I. Headquarters in Washington.

Man, that’s ice cold. And treating an FBI director like this, when you’re under investigation for ties to a hostile foreign government, strikes me as a seriously bad idea.

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b.d.  May 9, 2017 • 5:45:36pm

Cowardly.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 9, 2017 • 5:46:16pm

Carried over from the last thread:

I’ve been asking myself, “Why fire Comey now?” It would have been best to wait for Friday. Comey is just leading an investigation, he is not the one sifting through documents and stuff. That will continue as before. The only thing I can come up with is that testimony he was supposed to give Thursday. This effectively puts the kibosh on that and stalls further testimony indefinitely.
If I were the little man in North Korea I would stop everything and let Donald Chump proclaim a foreign policy win. That would really throw Washington into a tizzy.

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Skip Intro  May 9, 2017 • 5:46:39pm

It’s not incompetence. It’s contempt, the same contempt tRump shows everyone not named tRump who contradicts or crosses him.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 5:46:43pm

Such a brave manly man Trump is. Trump’s a fucking coward. I mean at least his hero Jackson would have fired the guy to his face.

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thedopefishlives  May 9, 2017 • 5:47:51pm

re: #3 Skip Intro

It’s not incompetence. It’s contempt, the same contempt tRump shows everyone ot named tRump who contradicts or crosses him.

Yep. He was deliberately being an asshole.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 5:48:03pm

re: #2 SteveMcG RN

Though, if Congress wants to hear from him, this firing won’t matter.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 5:48:08pm

Important note:

The termination letter was hand delivered by Trump’s personal private paid bodyguard.

That is some fucking Robert Mugabe shit right there.

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Kragar  May 9, 2017 • 5:49:00pm
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nines09  May 9, 2017 • 5:49:22pm

One thing Trump and the Republicans have in common is class. That and the ability to be asked simple questions and fall apart as they shit all over people and things that have no connection to the questions asked…. Oh, and a vile inner dark empty space where a soul should be. If pond slime got up and walked, or cancer gained a voice and could argue…This is the voice it would speak with. JFC.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 5:49:31pm

re: #3 Skip Intro

It’s not incompetence. It’s contempt, the same contempt tRump shows everyone ot named tRump who contradicts or crosses him.

Every interaction with Trump is always about dominance from his perspective.

Always.

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2017 • 5:49:50pm

Comey just got the O.J. Simpson treatment in Los Angeles, with news choppers following his car down the freeway to LAX.

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Skip Intro  May 9, 2017 • 5:49:55pm

re: #6 Belafon

Though, if Comgress wants to hear from him, this firing won’t matter.

I suppose tRump could have his DOJ “detain” Congress, for their own good of course.

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thedopefishlives  May 9, 2017 • 5:50:30pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Comey just got the O.J. Simpson treatment in Los Angeles, with news choppers following his car down the freeway to LAX.

FFS, he was fired, not fleeing the scene of a crime.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 5:50:31pm

re: #8 Kragar

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The most pathetic thing about KAC is she knows Trump is a dirtbag but she doesn’t care.

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b.d.  May 9, 2017 • 5:50:32pm

re: #8 Kragar

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Those guys must really be desperate if they called Kellyanne back up from the minors.

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Skip Intro  May 9, 2017 • 5:50:41pm

re: #8 Kragar

So she’s back. Goodie.

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Timothy Watson  May 9, 2017 • 5:50:45pm

re: #7 Scottish Dragon

Important note:

The termination letter was hand delivered by Trump’s personal private paid bodyguard.

That is some fucking Robert Mugabe shit right there.

I was wondering if he left behind a pistol too a la Rommel.

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nines09  May 9, 2017 • 5:50:56pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Comey just got the O.J. Simpson treatment in Los Angeles, with news choppers following his car down the freeway to LAX.

Is it a hostage situation with him holding a gun to his own head?

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EPR-radar  May 9, 2017 • 5:51:08pm

The Rude Pundit speaks for me here: rudepundit.blogspot.com

Not scared yet? We no longer have a functioning Justice Department. We don’t have a Congress that will check or balance the president in even the smallest ways. We have a president who doesn’t care about anything other than protecting his orange ass and centralizing all power within him and his small cadres of hellspawn and spunk monkeys. And he’s gonna appoint someone from that cadre to erase the investigations so he can gallivant on with his awful presidency.

In Hell, Richard Nixon rolled his eyes and wondered where the fuck this GOP was back in the 1970s. And then he was dipped back into the shit pit.

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BigPapa  May 9, 2017 • 5:51:51pm

This is the moment we go Watergate or over the cliff into a world where Comey would get polonium or just disappear.

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Brian J.  May 9, 2017 • 5:52:20pm

re: #13 thedopefishlives

FFS, he was fired, not fleeing the scene of a crime.

He crossed a President who recognizes no limits. Far as the CSA’s Attorney General and his boss are concerned, that’s a crime. Possibly a capital crime.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 5:52:20pm

re: #20 BigPapa

This is the moment we go Watergate or over the cliff into a world where Comey would get polonium or just disappear.

Yes.

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thedopefishlives  May 9, 2017 • 5:53:23pm

re: #20 BigPapa

This is the moment we go Watergate or over the cliff into a world where Comey would get polonium or just disappear.

And like Watergate, if our media - New Media or Old Media - would just get their shit together and do some serious journalism, there is the career opportunity of a lifetime lying just under the surface here. Paging Mr. Woodward…

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 5:53:51pm

re: #23 thedopefishlives

And like Watergate, if our media - New Media or Old Media - would just get their shit together and do some serious journalism, there is the career opportunity of a lifetime lying just under the surface here. Paging Mr. Woodward…

We need a Mark Felt too.

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freetoken  May 9, 2017 • 5:54:02pm

re: #13 thedopefishlives

FFS, he was fired, not fleeing the scene of a crime.

It’s all entertainment, for our entertainment-addled society.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 5:54:52pm

re: #19 EPR-radar

The Rude Pundit speaks for me here: rudepundit.blogspot.com

And this is what should be frightening everybody. The system of checks and balances has broken. This is an actual crisis: The POTUS has just staged a coup against the very law enforcement agency investigating him and he dared the legislative branch to do anything about it.

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freetoken  May 9, 2017 • 5:55:09pm

Part of me believes that Trump does these things just to be sure that he, and nothing else in the world, is the topic in the news for the day.

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Kragar  May 9, 2017 • 5:55:23pm
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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 5:55:32pm

re: #27 freetoken

Part of me believes that Trump does these things just to be sure that he, and nothing else in the world, is the topic in the news for the day.

Wouldn’t shock me honest.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 5:55:53pm

re: #21 Brian J.

He crossed a President who recognizes no limits. Far as the CSA’s Attorney General and his boss are concerned, that’s a crime. Possibly a capital crime.

Expect to see Sessions open up an investigation of Comey.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 5:56:25pm

re: #26 Scottish Dragon

And this is what should be frightening everybody. The system of checks and balances has broken. This is an actual crisis: The POTUS has just staged a coup against the very law enforcement agency investigating him and he dared the legislative branch to do anything about it.

As long as the fear is focusing peole to do something.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 5:56:34pm

It’s massively cliché, but we’re in banana republic territory today.

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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2017 • 5:56:51pm

re: #8 Kragar

Why is CNN still talking to truth challenged Conway?

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 5:57:15pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

It’s massively cliché, but we’re in banana republic territory today.

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American Cromwell.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 9, 2017 • 5:57:19pm

Someone help me find something I lost. Somewhere here is a scintilla of sympathy for Comey. But I just can’t seem to find it.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 5:57:22pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

It’s massively cliché, but we’re in banana republic territory today.

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Congress can get that back if they want.

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Schweppes7  May 9, 2017 • 5:57:32pm

Josh Marshall makes a terrifying and persuasive case to me of how terrifying this is and the fact that Rod Rosenstein can no longer be trusted given his complicity in this action.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Concluding with: “There is only one reasonable conclusion that can be drawn from the decision to fire Comey: that there is grave wrongdoing at the center of the Russia scandal and that it implicates the President. As I write this, I have a difficult time believing that last sentence myself. But sometimes you have to step back from your assumptions and simply look at what the available evidence is telling you. It’s speaking clearly: the only reasonable explanation is that the President has something immense to hide and needs someone in charge of the FBI who he believes is loyal. Like Jeff Sessions. Like Rod Rosenstein.”

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Skip Intro  May 9, 2017 • 5:58:05pm

re: #33 Patricia Kayden

Why is CNN still talking to truth challenged Conway?

Because ratings are all that matters.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 9, 2017 • 5:58:11pm

Reminder that public outcry and a threat against their jobs does occasionally prompt the legislative branch to do things.

Of course, if you think it’s all futile and won’t matter, then don’t bother. But don’t bother complaining either.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 5:58:24pm
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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 5:58:34pm

re: #35 Unshaken Defiance

Someone help me find something I lost. Somewhere here is a scintilla of sympathy for Comey. But I just can’t seem to find it.

I don’t thin anyone is worrying about Comey. This is about the office not the person.

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thedopefishlives  May 9, 2017 • 5:58:35pm

re: #35 Unshaken Defiance

Someone help me find something I lost. Somewhere here is a scintilla of sympathy for Comey. But I just can’t seem to find it.

I feel a little bit bad. I mean, the guy’s a massive douchecanoe, and no one is more deserving of getting an epic shitstorm rained down on his head. But this… I’m sorry, but I wouldn’t wish this on Donald Trump himself. This is just dickishness taken to the extreme, coupled with a heaping helping of heartless publicity.

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Stanley Sea  May 9, 2017 • 5:58:35pm

re: #8 Kragar

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The commentators are raging on her bullshit after she finished.

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Brian J.  May 9, 2017 • 6:00:24pm

re: #42 thedopefishlives

I feel a little bit bad. I mean, the guy’s a massive douchecanoe, and no one is more deserving of getting an epic shitstorm rained down on his head. But this… I’m sorry, but I wouldn’t wish this on Donald Trump himself. This is just dickishness taken to the extreme, coupled with a heaping helping of heartless publicity.

When you sell your soul, you should expect Old Scratch to come around to collect. Comey might want to look into a flight to someplace without an extradition treaty. Maybe he’ll run into the Clintons when he arrives. That will be awkward.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 9, 2017 • 6:00:26pm

re: #42 thedopefishlives

, but I wouldn’t wish this on Donald Trump himself.

You have a kinder heart than I. I do wish this or a worse public/political humiliation than what happened today. And to live long in the shame.

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BigPapa  May 9, 2017 • 6:00:29pm

If Comey could talk. Will he?

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2017 • 6:00:29pm
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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 6:00:35pm

Reposted from downstairs:
re: #526 austin_blue

.@SheriffClarke: If Trump made me his FBI Director I would be arresting Hillary Clinton today. #Comey

Well, that’s one candidate knocked out for a complete lack of understanding of the Justice System.

The man is as dumb as a box of hammers.

David Clarke is fucking happy that there’s no one at the top to prosecute his murderous régime in Milwaukee.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:01:22pm

re: #48 Myron Falwell

Reposted from downstairs:

David Clarke is fucking happy that there’s no one at the top to prosecute his murderous régime in Milwaukee.

Sessions probably sees him as Bull Connor reborn as a black guy.

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thedopefishlives  May 9, 2017 • 6:01:23pm

re: #45 Unshaken Defiance

You have a kinder heart than I. I do wish this or a worse public/political humiliation than what happened today. And to live long in the shame.

I will not judge anyone for having this attitude. I totally get it. I personally don’t feel that way, but I totally get it.

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Timothy Watson  May 9, 2017 • 6:01:34pm

re: #35 Unshaken Defiance

Someone help me find something I lost. Somewhere here is a scintilla of sympathy for Comey. But I just can’t seem to find it.

I still hope he ends up in a cell between Michael Flynn and Trump.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:02:18pm

re: #51 Timothy Watson

I still hope he ends up in a cell between Michael Flynn and Trump.

I liken him to the old German right who thought they could control the Bohemian corporal.

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Bass Reeves  May 9, 2017 • 6:02:24pm

I’m not sure why we are calling this his massacre. Comey has in no way been principled this entire process. He fucked up and got Trump elected trying to hurt Hillary, and fucked up by lying to Congress on multiple occasions, and then fucked up the investigation after the election. He’s bad, he should be gone, and it really doesn’t matter who replaces him, because CONGRESS WON’T DO A DAMNED THING.

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2017 • 6:03:27pm

I have no sympathy for Comey, but the way this was handled is an absolute disaster for American democracy.

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freetoken  May 9, 2017 • 6:03:50pm

re: #53 Bass Reeves

To me, it’s just the timing which is the outrage. Comey was going to elected leaders to testify about something which included the very person who fired him.

That, that is outrageous.

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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2017 • 6:03:54pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

It’s massively cliché, but we’re in banana republic territory today.

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We are so screwed.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:04:04pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

I have no sympathy for Comey, but the way this was handled is an absolute disaster for American democracy.

Yes, this.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 6:04:38pm

re: #36 Belafon

Congress can get that back if they want.

With these Republican bozos controlling it? Not bloody likely.

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goddamnedfrank  May 9, 2017 • 6:04:44pm

This is seriously frustrating. Comey should not have editorialized via his stupid press conference, but he absolutely was given the authority to decide the disposition and outcome of the investigation into Clinton’s server.

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BigPapa  May 9, 2017 • 6:06:01pm
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Targetpractice  May 9, 2017 • 6:06:05pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

I have no sympathy for Comey, but the way this was handled is an absolute disaster for American democracy.

Agreed, there’s no real hope that anything good will come of this because the people directly responsible for policing Trump’s actions are either actively colluding with him or abetting his actions in the hope of gaining increased power/favors. It’s almost guaranteed that the man who will eventually replace Comey will be either a direct conspirator or a willing patsy.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 6:06:33pm

Carried over from the dead thread because I can’t keep up (this is moving too fast)

re: #424 Bubblehead II

There is one nice thing about where I live. It’s only about 11 hrs to the Canadian border and we both have valid passports.

The Canadian border is much farther away for us, but we have valid passports, valid Canadian car liability insurance card, and a valid Parks Canada permit.

We also have Canadian money in a “break glass in case of emergency” case I had made when Trump was elected. (It might be getting time to do that - let’s see if they move to round up liberals first.)

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 6:06:53pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2017 • 6:07:02pm

re: #40 Scottish Dragon

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Kind of reminds me of Trump’s snake story. Comey helped Trump, the snake, and gets bit.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 6:07:08pm

re: #36 Belafon

Congress can get that back if they want.

Putin could admit to every fucking thing in the book and the GOP rank-and-file wouldn’t care.

Criminals. All of them. No more, no less.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:07:18pm

re: #63 teleskiguy

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Dog would probably be better than David Clarke or Rudy.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 9, 2017 • 6:07:21pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

I have no sympathy for Comey, but the way this was handled is an absolute disaster for American democracy.

Your point about autocracy is really THE takeaway today. Whoever gets the job, acting director or appointed will be under a tiny thumb attached to a tiny hand.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:07:48pm

re: #67 Unshaken Defiance

Your point about autocracy is really THE takeaway today. Whoever gets the job, acting director or appointed will be under a tiny thumb attached to a tiny hand.

That’s what Toobin has been saying on CNN I believe.

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EPR-radar  May 9, 2017 • 6:08:02pm

re: #42 thedopefishlives

I feel a little bit bad. I mean, the guy’s a massive douchecanoe, and no one is more deserving of getting an epic shitstorm rained down on his head. But this… I’m sorry, but I wouldn’t wish this on Donald Trump himself. This is just dickishness taken to the extreme, coupled with a heaping helping of heartless publicity.

Comey didn’t deserve this kind of shit from Trump. Being fired fair and square by Obama last year would have sufficed.

On the other hand, Trump deserves this and 10,000 times worse.

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austin_blue  May 9, 2017 • 6:08:35pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Such a brave manly man Trump is. Trump’s a fucking coward. I mean at least his hero Jackson would have fired the guy to his face.

Actually, he would have fired *into* his face.

Bang!

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 6:08:38pm

lawfareblog.com

Make no mistake: The firing of James Comey as FBI director is a stunning event. It is a profoundly dangerous thing—a move that puts the Trump-Russia investigation in immediate jeopardy and removes from the investigative hierarchy the one senior official whom President Trump did not appoint and one who is known to stand up to power. One of the biggest dangers of Comey’s firing is that Trump might actually get away with it, ironically, because of Comey’s unpopularity among Democrats and on the political left.

We warned about this danger immediately after the election.

On November 10, we wrote that that Trump’s firing of Comey would be a “a clear bellwether to both the national security and civil libertarian communities that things are going terribly wrong.” At the time we wrote those words, Comey was deeply unpopular with both the Left, which blamed Hillary Clinton’s defeat on his eleventh hour letter to Congress, and the Right, which criticized his decision to recommend that Clinton not be charged over her handling of government emails. Whatever the merit of Comey’s actions during the campaign, the fact that he managed to anger both sides of the political spectrum demonstrated his storied political independence. And that political independence, we argued, would serve as a critical check against any efforts on the part of President Trump to trample the rule of law.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:09:11pm

re: #69 EPR-radar

Comey didn’t deserve this kind of shit from Trump. Being fired fair and square by Obama last year would have sufficed.

On the other hand, Trump deserves this and 10,000 times worse.

Trump deserves to be in the same lexicon as Benedict Arnold perhaps even wores since at least Arnold had Saratoga on his resume.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:09:23pm

re: #70 austin_blue

Actually, he would have fired *into* his face.

Bang!

Kajing!

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Targetpractice  May 9, 2017 • 6:09:44pm

re: #60 BigPapa

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“Testing the waters”? He’s pretty much signaling his intent to wield the DOJ as a weapon.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 6:09:50pm

re: #60 BigPapa

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Everyone talks about how Trump might do this to satisfy the right. Imagine what will happen on the left if he tries.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:10:46pm

re: #75 Belafon

Everyone talks about how Trump might do this to satisfy the right. Imagine what will happen on the left if he tries.

I can see some on the far left being happy because they hate the Clintons that much.

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Stanley Sea  May 9, 2017 • 6:11:10pm
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Bass Reeves  May 9, 2017 • 6:11:55pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

I disagree. The previous massacre which you reference was Bush firing “principled” members to find a lackey. Comey was always a lackey. Say Comey says an investigation finds something on Trump…who in the government would take action? Trump has the USSC, he has the House and Senate, he obviously has a significant portion of the FBI itself, and he has the deplorables.

Oh wait, are we still operating under the assumption that the Republicans will eventually think something is too far for them? I thought we watched Yates’s testimony yesterday, and the Republican handling thereof?

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Unshaken Defiance  May 9, 2017 • 6:12:02pm
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austin_blue  May 9, 2017 • 6:12:11pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

We need a Mark Felt too.

There are a *lot* of Mark Felts out there.

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Varek Raith  May 9, 2017 • 6:12:12pm

Blatant obstruction of justice is blatant.

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thedopefishlives  May 9, 2017 • 6:12:37pm

re: #81 Varek Raith

Blatant obstruction of justice is blatant.

Yes, but like Lady Justice, Republicans are blind.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 6:12:55pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

I can see some on the far left being happy because they hate the Clintons that much.

And yet she won the popular vote by nearly 3M.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:12:58pm

re: #80 austin_blue

There are a *lot* of Mark Felts out there.

Will any one of them talk to a reporter?

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EPR-radar  May 9, 2017 • 6:13:01pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Trump deserves to be in the same lexicon as Benedict Arnold perhaps even wores since at least Arnold had Saratoga on his resume.

A modern retelling of Dante’s Inferno would certainly have to place Trump deep in Hell. IMO the Ninth Circle (for traitors) fits well.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:13:13pm

re: #83 Belafon

And yet she won the popular vote by nearly 3M.

Yep.

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goddamnedfrank  May 9, 2017 • 6:13:16pm
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Skip Intro  May 9, 2017 • 6:13:28pm

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Brian J.  May 9, 2017 • 6:13:40pm

re: #80 austin_blue

There are a *lot* of Mark Felts out there.

[citation needed] The next one who becomes public will be the second (after Yates, who wasn’t in a position to do anything).

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:13:43pm

re: #85 EPR-radar

A modern retelling of Dante’s Inferno would certainly have to place Trump deep in Hell. IMO the Ninth Circle (for traitors) fits well.

I have to say. I have never liked the guy. I always thought he was an egotistical asshole.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 6:14:03pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

Was Nixon this fucking blatant? And Comey is still scheduled to speak on Thursday (unless the GOP rank-and-file do Trump a flavor and cancel Comey’s appearance).

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Stanley Sea  May 9, 2017 • 6:14:13pm

They had no idea. The yam was watching TV & saw the firestorm.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 6:15:01pm
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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 6:15:17pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

They had no idea. The yam was watching TV & saw the firestorm.

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“I’m the CEO. I get to do whatever I think is best.”

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lockjawcanbefun  May 9, 2017 • 6:15:33pm
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Shiplord Kirel  May 9, 2017 • 6:15:48pm

October 21, 1973

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EPR-radar  May 9, 2017 • 6:16:40pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

I have to say. I have never liked the guy. I always thought he was an egotistical asshole.

That’s because that’s what Trump is. NYC metro area school children of a certain age learned this by osmosis while they were growing up (I was one of them).

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freetoken  May 9, 2017 • 6:17:02pm

re: #96 Shiplord Kirel

Remember: back then the Democrats controlled Congress. That is why Nixon was stopped.

We are in a different situation today.

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Jenner7  May 9, 2017 • 6:17:04pm
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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 6:17:07pm

re: #85 EPR-radar

A modern retelling of Dante’s Inferno would certainly have to place Trump deep in Hell. IMO the Ninth Circle (for traitors) fits well.

Everyone who voted for him deserves to be in that circle of hell too.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 9, 2017 • 6:17:13pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  May 9, 2017 • 6:18:31pm

Hey guys and gals, I was hard at work cleaning the house, anything interesting happen in the last couple of hours?

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:18:39pm

re: #99 Jenner7

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But we’re to believe that they were so bothered by how Comey treated Clinton. Sessions is worse than Jesse Helms. At least Reagan, asshole he was never thought to make him AG.

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thedopefishlives  May 9, 2017 • 6:19:25pm

re: #102 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Hey guys and gals, I was hard at work cleaning the house, anything interesting happen in the last couple of hours?

Oh, it’s just a thrill a minute out here in Lizardland.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 6:20:21pm
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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 6:21:22pm

re: #102 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Hey guys and gals, I was hard at work cleaning the house, anything interesting happen in the last couple of hours?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA***BREATH BREATH**HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 6:21:22pm

re: #83 Belafon

And yet she won the popular vote by nearly 3M.

And yet, it’s the electoral vote that matters. Three million more votes is just running up the score. The Dems needed to win states, not votes.

You go with the electoral system you have, not the electoral system you wish you had. Is the Electoral College fair? I would say no. It is, however, the law of the land.

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  May 9, 2017 • 6:21:30pm

Fuck me.

I go out for a few hours for a business meeting, and my phone blows up. All my former friends in law enforcement in LA are stunned, angry, disbelieving. Even the ones who are dismissing the Trump/Russia story as a nothingburger where only underlings are dirty are saying things like, “This is criminally stupid. Don’t they realize how this looks? The day after testimony about Trump appointing a Russian spy despite being warned about it, he shitcans the head of the FBI conducting the investigation? Even if he is innocent - this looks guilty as all hell. And that’s what matters now. TV is going to roast his ass.”

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austin_blue  May 9, 2017 • 6:21:35pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

BREAKING ON CNN: Grand jury subpoenas were recently issued relating to the FBI Russia probe seeking records from associates of Michael Flynn

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And drip, drip, drip…

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2017 • 6:21:37pm
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Shiplord Kirel  May 9, 2017 • 6:21:51pm

re: #98 freetoken

Remember: back then the Democrats controlled Congress. That is why Nixon was stopped.

We are in a different situation today.

Incidentally, it was none other than Solicitor General Robert Bork who carried out the order to fire Cox after AG Richardson and deputy AG Ruckelshaus both refused and resigned in protest. This was a major, but now almost forgotten, issue when Bork’s SCOTUS nomination failed in 1987.

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EPR-radar  May 9, 2017 • 6:21:59pm

re: #102 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Hey guys and gals, I was hard at work cleaning the house, anything interesting happen in the last couple of hours?

The contents of a manure truck have been dumped into an operating supersonic wind tunnel. In other words, business as usual for this cancerous maladministration of nitwits and fucknuts.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 6:22:02pm
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MsJ  May 9, 2017 • 6:23:15pm

re: #108 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

Fuck me.

I go out for a few hours for a business meeting, and my phone blows up. All my former friends in law enforcement in LA are stunned, angry, disbelieving. Even the ones who are dismissing the Trump/Russia story as a nothingburger where only underlings are dirty are saying things like, “This is criminally stupid. Don’t they realize how this looks? The day after testimony about Trump appointing a Russian spy despite being warned about it, he shitcans the head of the FBI conducting the investigation? Even if he is innocent - this looks guilty as all hell. And that’s what matters now. TV is going to roast his ass.”

So are your friends going to join the leaking* sieve of information?

*Edit

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:23:18pm

re: #107 Anymouse

And yet, it’s the electoral vote that matters. Three million more votes is just running up the score. The Dems needed to win states, not votes.

You go with the electoral system you have, not the electoral system you wish you had. Is the Electoral College fair? I would say no. It is, however, the law of the land.

He’s pointing out that even with all the crap that was flung against Clinton that she still won the popular vote. It wasn’t a lamentation on the EC.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  May 9, 2017 • 6:23:22pm

re: #110 gocart mozart

This guy has been talking about grand juries for weeks, and now it’s happening IRL.

I hope he’s for real. Hard to believe he’s not at this point.

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Teukka  May 9, 2017 • 6:23:36pm

re: #102 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Hey guys and gals, I was hard at work cleaning the house, anything interesting happen in the last couple of hours?

I was editing audio, and the Comey shit happened.

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austin_blue  May 9, 2017 • 6:23:50pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

Will any one of them talk to a reporter?

$64,000 question!

But, yeah, someone is going to rat out the ratfucker.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 6:24:12pm

re: #107 Anymouse

And yet, it’s the electoral vote that matters. Three million more votes is just running up the score. The Dems needed to win states, not votes.

You go with the electoral system you have, not the electoral system you wish you had. Is the Electoral College fair? I would say no. It is, however, the law of the land.

Not my point. I was talking about how many on the left there are if Trump actually tries to go after Clinton.

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EPR-radar  May 9, 2017 • 6:24:19pm

re: #111 Shiplord Kirel

Incidentally, it was none other than Solicitor General Robert Bork who carried out the order to fire Cox after AG Richardson and deputy AG Ruckelshaus both refused and resigned in protest. This was a major, but now almost forgotten, issue when Bork’s SCOTUS nomination failed in 1987.

IIRC, Bork’s SCOTUS nomination by Reagan was, in part, ‘payment’ for Bork having been a good GOP hack back in the day. These scumbags.

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BigPapa  May 9, 2017 • 6:24:47pm

I can’t imagine FBI rank and file are going to appreciate what happened to Comey or what Trump is doing. Much like the CIA isn’t either.

They may be our only hope with the GOP controlling so much of our checks and balances.

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Jenner7  May 9, 2017 • 6:24:58pm

A. MONTH. AGO.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:25:04pm

re: #118 austin_blue

$64,000 question!

But, yeah, someone is going to rat out the ratfucker.

Interesting story but I was taking journalism the year that Felt agreed to let Woodward reveal his identity to the public. We had watched All the President’s Men that fall.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 6:25:51pm

re: #107 Anymouse

And yet, it’s the electoral vote that matters. Three million more votes is just running up the score. The Dems needed to win states, not votes.

You go with the electoral system you have, not the electoral system you wish you had. Is the Electoral College fair? I would say no. It is, however, the law of the land.

One political party is proving itself to be totally above the law and is proudly flaunting its willing hatred of the law.

The law of the land is increasingly in danger.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 6:25:56pm

re: #122 Jenner7

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A. MONTH. AGO.

He was confident a month ago that Comey wouldn’t let anything happen to him.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:26:29pm

re: #120 EPR-radar

IIRC, Bork’s SCOTUS nomination by Reagan was, in part, ‘payment’ for Bork having been a good GOP hack back in the day. These scumbags.

That’s definitely why. Glad that asshole got rejected. God knows Kennedy wouldn’t have been my first choice but by preventing Bork from being nominated, we got a centrist conservative who actually respects Roe v Wade as settled law and a man who respects LGBT rights as constitutional. We wouldn’t have gotten that with Bork.

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DodgerFan1988  May 9, 2017 • 6:26:32pm

All the conservatives websites like Breibart, The Blaze, Daily Caller, The National Review, Pajamas Media, Right Wing New, and Townhall are calling for Trump to appoint as the new Director of The FBI someone who will prosecute Hillary Clinton and crackdown on Black Lives Matters, Antifa, and the Resistance movements.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 6:26:38pm
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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 6:27:03pm
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  May 9, 2017 • 6:27:23pm
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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 6:27:44pm
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  May 9, 2017 • 6:27:57pm

It sure would be nice to get some indictments for my birthday.

(My birthday is later this week.)

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thedopefishlives  May 9, 2017 • 6:28:44pm

re: #133 A wild WITHAK appeared!

It sure would be nice to get some indictments for my birthday.

(My birthday is later this week.)

I give to you a premature indication of my desire for you to enjoy many happy returns.

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BigPapa  May 9, 2017 • 6:29:16pm

re: #133 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Mine is tomorrow. I’ll leave some for you.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 6:29:19pm

re: #127 DodgerFan1988

All the conservatives websites like Breibart, The Blaze, Daily Caller, The National Review, Pajamas Media, Right Wing New, and Townhall are calling for Trump to appoint as the new Director of The FBI someone who will prosecute Hillary Clinton and crackdown on Black Lives Matters, Antifa, and the Resistance movements.

Yep.

The RWNJ media wants a new Schutzstaffel to punish the rest of us.

I predicted last summer that BLM would be targeted by the Justice Dept under Trump, and that Hillary Clinton would be in grave danger.

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Bubblehead II  May 9, 2017 • 6:29:29pm

Night Lizards. Wish I could leave with my usual exit wishing you all well. Sadly, after today all I can leave you with.

This is how liberty dies

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thedopefishlives  May 9, 2017 • 6:29:40pm

re: #135 BigPapa

Mine is tomorrow. I’ll leave some for you.

And many happy returns to you, as well.

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De Kolta Chair  May 9, 2017 • 6:29:42pm
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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:30:14pm

re: #127 DodgerFan1988

All the conservatives websites like Breibart, The Blaze, Daily Caller, The National Review, Pajamas Media, Right Wing New, and Townhall are calling for Trump to appoint as the new Director of The FBI someone who will prosecute Hillary Clinton and crackdown on Black Lives Matters, Antifa, and the Resistance movements.

They will probably get some of what they want and the people who are negatively impacted by Trump’s policies who support him won’t care because they’l lget their revenge.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 6:30:36pm

Three Lizards with a birthday inside of a week. August is a good month for Lizard procreation.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 6:30:50pm

re: #127 DodgerFan1988

All the conservatives websites like Breibart, The Blaze, Daily Caller, The National Review, Pajamas Media, Right Wing New, and Townhall are calling for Trump to appoint as the new Director of The FBI someone who will prosecute Hillary Clinton and crackdown on Black Lives Matters, Antifa, and the Resistance movements.

Conservative “thought” is increasingly revealing itself as a mental illness.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 6:31:20pm
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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:32:05pm

re: #143 Anymouse

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They need to find a good candidate to run against her. Destroy her “moderate” creds.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 6:32:46pm
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Shiplord Kirel  May 9, 2017 • 6:32:48pm

Canada is too far away for me. I might have to flee to Mexico.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 6:32:54pm
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Brian J.  May 9, 2017 • 6:33:38pm

re: #121 BigPapa

I can’t imagine FBI rank and file are going to appreciate what happened to Comey or what Trump is doing. Much like the CIA isn’t either.

They may be our only hope with the GOP controlling so much of our checks and balances.

Then no hope exists. Why do you think there hasn’t been any such outcry until now. This is what they’ve been working towards for decades- a man who will deal with all those n’s and wetbacks and [bigoted word]s and bring this nation back to law and order.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 9, 2017 • 6:33:41pm

In the next few years we will see who is willing to speak up in public against Trumps attempts at tyranny and the destruction of democracy as we love it. Who will act instead of merely speak. Who will spend time or money. Who will sacrifice and who will oppose us in favor of the tyrant. Take names.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:33:45pm

re: #147 teleskiguy

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Not even hiding what this was about. Not only that, they went after Clinton for literally doing her job to represent someone as a PD.

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thedopefishlives  May 9, 2017 • 6:34:13pm

re: #146 Shiplord Kirel

Canada is too far away for me. I might have to flee to Mexico.

Good news is, you’ll have a bigass wall separating you from Drumpf.

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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2017 • 6:34:35pm

re: #96 Shiplord Kirel

October 21, 1973

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History repeating itself before our very eyes.

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 6:34:44pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 9, 2017 • 6:34:49pm

re: #146 Shiplord Kirel

Canada is too far away for me. I might have to flee to Mexico.

You are invited to my neighborhood.

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Jay C  May 9, 2017 • 6:35:09pm

re: #111 Shiplord Kirel

Incidentally, it was none other than Solicitor General Robert Bork who carried out the order to fire Cox after AG Richardson and deputy AG Ruckelshaus both refused and resigned in protest. This was a major, but now almost forgotten, issue when Bork’s SCOTUS nomination failed in 1987.

re: #120 EPR-radar
re: #126 HappyWarrior

IIRTC, at the time of Bork’s SCOTUS confirmation flap, Watergate wasn’t quite that ancient history: while it was old Bob’s ideological crankery (and his overt, stated obsession with enacting that crankery into the Law) that ultimately sank his nomination, most of Washington remembered his role as Nixon’s hatchet-man quite clearly.

And even 30 years on, wingers are still terminally butthurt over Bork’s failure…

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 6:35:21pm

re: #133 A wild WITHAK appeared!

It sure would be nice to get some indictments for my birthday.

(My birthday is later this week.)

Mine is the last day of the month. I’ll pull for those indictments on your birthday rather than mine.

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  May 9, 2017 • 6:36:05pm

re: #114 MsJ

So are your friends going to join the leaking* sieve of information?

*Edit

No. but there seems to be a general understanding, even in right-wing law enforcement that this is the kind of thing that Simply Is Not Done.

These are professional investigators. They are very careful in how they build cases. If Trump puts a new head of the FBI in place with orders to gin up any kind of investigation so he can put Clinton in prison, this is not going to end well.

Not for Trump.

Not for American democracy.

Jesus. This is like a really shitty late 80s vintage movie script gone horribly wrong.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 6:36:12pm

re: #146 Shiplord Kirel

Canada is too far away for me. I might have to flee to Mexico.

Mexico and Canada are equidistant to me. I’ll take whichever one (though I am better prepared for Canada, I can speak Spanish).

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:36:27pm

re: #155 Jay C

IIRTC, at the time of Bork’s SCOTUS confirmation flap, Watergate wasn’t quite that ancient history: while it was old Bob’s ideological crankery (and his overt, stated obsession with enacting that crankery into the Law) that ultimately sank his nomination, most of Washington remembered his role as Nixon’s hatchet-man quite clearly.

And even 30 years on, wingers are still terminally butthurt over Bork’s failure…

Yep and they want to push a narrative that it was only Democrats that opposed Bork. My then Republican Senator, John Warner to his credit opposed Bork’s nomination.

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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2017 • 6:36:31pm

re: #142 Myron Falwell

Conservative “thought” is increasingly revealing itself as a mental illness.

Or as just evil.

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gwangung  May 9, 2017 • 6:36:32pm

re: #149 Unshaken Defiance

re: #149 Unshaken Defiance

In the next few years we will see who is willing to speak up in public against Trumps attempts at tyranny and the destruction of democracy as we love it. Who will act instead of merely speak. Who will spend time or money. Who will sacrifice and who will oppose us in favor of the tyrant. Take names.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 6:37:05pm
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Brian J.  May 9, 2017 • 6:37:18pm

re: #105 Scottish Dragon

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I’ve read this book.

Expect a lot of Russian officials to fly over in the coming days, and a new treaty to be signed to arrange for greater friendship and cooperation between our two great nations by bringing our government into line with Russian best practices.

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austin_blue  May 9, 2017 • 6:37:30pm

re: #146 Shiplord Kirel

Canada is too far away for me. I might have to flee to Mexico.

You remember what happened to the German Unionists from Fredricksburg in 1862?

For Dog’s sake, man, get a plane ticket!

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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2017 • 6:38:07pm

re: #130 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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Stop having Kelly Lying Conway on your shows. Simple.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 6:38:11pm

re: #136 Scottish Dragon

Yep.

The RWNJ media wants a new Schutzstaffel to punish the rest of us.

I predicted last summer that BLM would be targeted by the Justice Dept under Trump, and that Hillary Clinton would be in grave danger.

They will try. But my hunch is they will fail, unless they simply go full Nazi and execute everyone “not them.”

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Dr. Matt  May 9, 2017 • 6:38:30pm
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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 6:39:03pm
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De Kolta Chair  May 9, 2017 • 6:39:28pm
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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 6:40:12pm

re: #119 Belafon

Not my point. I was talking about how many on the left there are if Trump actually tries to go after Clinton.

Thanks for the clarification. I missed what you were trying to say.

The GOP has a real problem now: If they try to either set aside Mr. Trump with a XXV Amendment solution, the crazification factor of their base will go after established Republican politicians, or if they don’t, they could very well be torn apart in the next election. (Watching Jon Osseff and Rob Quist in the next few weeks might be interesting as well. If they both win over this bad Watergate redux, Republicans are going to be headed for the exits on Mr. Trump.)

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SteelPH  May 9, 2017 • 6:40:42pm

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Stephen T.  May 9, 2017 • 6:40:45pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

No, but Reagan did try to make Bork, of the Saturday Night Massacre a Supreme Court Justice.

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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2017 • 6:41:18pm

re: #121 BigPapa

I can’t imagine FBI rank and file are going to appreciate what happened to Comey or what Trump is doing. Much like the CIA isn’t either.

They may be our only hope with the GOP controlling so much of our checks and balances.

Hmmmm. But hasn’t it been reported that there are FBI agents who were fervently anti Secretary Clinton and leaked info about her to Congressional Republicans? I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:41:31pm

re: #172 Stephen T.

No, but Reagan did try to make Bork, of the Saturday Night Massacre a Supreme Court Justice.

Very true.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 6:41:42pm

OK, this posting of whole Twitter threads here is kind of annoying. Post the first tweet in the thread and then say “Read this thread.”

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:42:08pm

re: #173 Patricia Kayden

Hmmmm. But hasn’t it been reported that there are FBI agents who were fervently anti Secretary Clinton and leaked info about her to Congressional Republicans? I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

Yeah a lot are Anti-Clinton but I can see this putting a bad taste in their mouths.

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petesh  May 9, 2017 • 6:42:14pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

We need a Mark Felt too.

Oh, you mean a high-placed FBI source? Hmmmm.

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TedStriker  May 9, 2017 • 6:42:34pm

re: #171 SteelPH

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austin_blue  May 9, 2017 • 6:42:51pm

re: #171 SteelPH

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TedStriker  May 9, 2017 • 6:43:25pm

re: #179 austin_blue

Who?

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Exactly.

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JordanRules  May 9, 2017 • 6:43:43pm

This is all just so blatant. My jaw is still on the floor from earlier today.

If you don’t resist now, you’re sooooooo damn complicit. This is what it continues to look like. This right here. This is what a democracy fighting to survive looks like.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 6:43:46pm

re: #133 A wild WITHAK appeared!

It sure would be nice to get some indictments for my birthday.

(My birthday is later this week.)

re: #135 BigPapa

Mine is tomorrow. I’ll leave some for you.

Congradulamashuns to both of you for your annual passing of an arbitrary point in the Earth’s orbit. May you pass that point many more times in the future.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 6:44:15pm

re: #171 SteelPH

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re: #178 TedStriker

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:45:12pm

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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2017 • 6:45:15pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

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Hence Comey’s termination. The puzzle is being arranged.

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Stanley Sea  May 9, 2017 • 6:45:35pm
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Renaissance_Man  May 9, 2017 • 6:45:35pm

re: #108 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

Fuck me.

I go out for a few hours for a business meeting, and my phone blows up. All my former friends in law enforcement in LA are stunned, angry, disbelieving. Even the ones who are dismissing the Trump/Russia story as a nothingburger where only underlings are dirty are saying things like, “This is criminally stupid. Don’t they realize how this looks? The day after testimony about Trump appointing a Russian spy despite being warned about it, he shitcans the head of the FBI conducting the investigation? Even if he is innocent - this looks guilty as all hell. And that’s what matters now. TV is going to roast his ass.”

No it won’t.

It will do the usual dance of bringing on people from both sides to argue about it and present controversy, and that’s it. It will keep him in the forefront of the news while FOX praises him and gins up hatred of liberals, and while CNN and MSNBC talk about both sides endlessly. And then it will be forgotten in time for the next controversy.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:45:36pm

re: #185 TedStriker

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 6:46:04pm

re: #188 Stanley Sea

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He’s been on a roll whenever I’ve seen him this evening.

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  May 9, 2017 • 6:47:28pm

re: #169 De Kolta Chair

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There isn’t going to be an immediate fallout from firing Comey, other than a lot of shouting on cable news channels.

But long term? There are a lot of law-enforcement types who just rocked back on their heels today, and then nodded.

“OK, then. If that’s how we’re going to play this.”

Trump and the nutbar Deplorables are just a small fraction. They cannot organize all this by themselves. And a long, slow, painful investigation into Trump is pretty much inevitable now. Law enforcement knows how to do this.

It’s the same playbook we use when going after a high-line drug dealer. You just start grinding on the fucker. Keep the pressure up. Eventually, they crack.

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2017 • 6:47:51pm
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petesh  May 9, 2017 • 6:48:00pm

re: #91 Myron Falwell

Was Nixon this fucking blatant? …

Yes.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 6:48:44pm

CHARLESTON, WV (WDTV) — According to the American Civil Liberties Union of West Virginia, a West Virginia journalist was arrested for allegedly asking Tom Price, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, and Kellyanne Conway, Special Counsel to the President of the United States, a question.

WSAZ reports that according to the criminal complaint, Dan Heyman was arrested after “aggressively breaching the Secret Service agents to the point where the agents were forced to remove him a couple of times from the area walking up the hallway in the main building of the Capitol.”

The complaint goes on to say that Heyman caused a disturbance by “yelling questions at Ms. Conway and Secretary Price.”

The Public News Service tweeted Heyman, its producer, is in the South Central Regional Jail, for “causing a disturbance by yelling questions” while Price and Conway were in town.

The news organization’s tweets go on to say “He was trying to ask @KellyannePolls and @SecPriceMD questions when he was arrested.”

The organization claims Heyman was “arrested performing 1st amendment duties.”

Public News Service says the organization is working to bail Heyman out of jail.

The ACLU of West Virginia plans to hold a press conference on the steps of the West Virginia Capitol Building in response to the arrest at 8:45 p.m., Tuesday night.

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Brian J.  May 9, 2017 • 6:48:51pm

re: #192 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

There isn’t going to be an immediate fallout from firing Comey, other than a lot of shouting on cable news channels.

But long term? There are a lot of law-enforcement types who just rocked back on their heels today, and then nodded.

“OK, then. If that’s how we’re going to play this.”

Trump and the nutbar Deplorables are just a small fraction. They cannot organize all this by themselves. And a long, slow, painful investigation into Trump is pretty much inevitable now. Law enforcement knows how to do this..

Has any significant fraction of Republicans shied away from anything their Lord and Master wants to do? This is just one of those eggs that must be broken to produce the omelet of their proper society, in which the white man is supreme and all else exists at his sufferance.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 6:49:15pm

re: #189 Renaissance_Man

Outside of Fake News Channel, that’s really not happening tonight.

In a vain attempt to distract, Trump made a catastrophically stupid move that isn’t going to really go away that quickly.

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2017 • 6:49:56pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 9, 2017 • 6:50:04pm

I look at DF like this. He stepped away for good reason. Good reason by our measure and his. I respect that decision, so whatever he has to say elsewhere has no relevance to me here.

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BigPapa  May 9, 2017 • 6:50:22pm

re: #141 teleskiguy

Three Lizards with a birthday inside of a week. August is a good month for Lizard procreation.

Yeah, well, my dad was a motherfucker.

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Teukka  May 9, 2017 • 6:50:35pm

Sanity break:

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TedStriker  May 9, 2017 • 6:50:49pm

re: #193 gocart mozart

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McCabe’s not going to last too long as Acting FBI Director; Trump, Bannon, and their GOP compatriots over on Capitol Hill will make sure of that.

Looking at that article, they’re already starting on him.

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Stanley Sea  May 9, 2017 • 6:51:13pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

He’s been on a roll whenever I’ve seen him this evening.

David Gregory as well.

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  May 9, 2017 • 6:52:05pm

re: #196 Brian J.

Has any significant fraction of Republicans shied away from anything their Lord and Master wants to do? This is just one of those eggs that must be broken to produce the omelet of their proper society, in which the white man is supreme and all else exists at his sufferance.

It’s kinda like asking if any of Pablo Escobar’s people had deserted him in 1992. Answer: no, they hadn’t. But as the government kept up the pressure on Escobar, and picked off the loyalists, one by one, the circle started shrinking.

It takes time. A lot of time. And a lot of pain along the way.

But as the pressure mounts, everyone but the utter fanatics starts to think about their own miserable hides. And then they start to cut side deals.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 6:52:40pm

re: #201 Teukka

I’m really not sure how that qualifies as a “sanity break.”

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 6:53:10pm

re: #205 teleskiguy

I’m really not sure how that qualifies as a “sanity break.”

It made me laugh.

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Teukka  May 9, 2017 • 6:53:38pm

re: #205 teleskiguy

I’m really not sure how that qualifies as a “sanity break.”

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 6:55:05pm

re: #206 Belafon

It made me laugh.

It made me shudder.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 9, 2017 • 6:55:25pm

re: #204 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

It’s kinda like asking if any of Pablo Escobar’s people had deserted him in 1992. Answer: no, they hadn’t. But as the government kept up the pressure on Escobar, and picked off the loyalists, one by one, the circle started shrinking.

It takes time. A lot of time. And a lot of pain along the way.

But as the pressure mounts, everyone but the utter fanatics starts to think about their own miserable hides. And then they start to cut side deals.

And it’s worth remembering that we have to help keep the pressure up and on.

Already the administration is scrambling because they didn’t think this would be a big deal. But if we all treat it as a done deal where nothing we say is going to matter, then it turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 6:55:58pm
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TedStriker  May 9, 2017 • 6:56:03pm

re: #209 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And it’s worth remembering that we have to help keep the pressure up and on.

Already the administration is scrambling because they didn’t think this would be a big deal. But if we all treat it as a done deal where nothing we say is going to matter, then it turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Preach…

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 6:56:29pm

re: #207 Teukka

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 6:57:47pm

re: #171 SteelPH

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Teukka  May 9, 2017 • 6:58:09pm

re: #212 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 6:59:23pm
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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 6:59:29pm

re: #202 TedStriker

McCabe’s not going to last too long as Acting FBI Director, Trump and Bannon will make sure of that.

At least there will be plenty of popcorn as we decend into a dictatorship.

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William Lewis  May 9, 2017 • 6:59:49pm

I wonder if the world has enough courage to end this mess with the most appropriate ending:

President Sally Yates.

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austin_blue  May 9, 2017 • 7:00:08pm

re: #213 Anymouse

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Nope. That welcome was pretty much worn out.

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Dr. Matt  May 9, 2017 • 7:00:09pm
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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 7:00:16pm

re: #213 Anymouse

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 7:00:17pm
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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 7:01:16pm

re: #213 Anymouse

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  May 9, 2017 • 7:01:26pm
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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  May 9, 2017 • 7:01:31pm

re: #209 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And it’s worth remembering that we have to help keep the pressure up and on.

Already the administration is scrambling because they didn’t think this would be a big deal. But if we all treat it as a done deal where nothing we say is going to matter, then it turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I think there are a lot of law enforcement guys, both within the FBI, and now down at the local level, who will be helping keep the pressure on. They understand this. That if they were investigating the City Manager, even if it was kinda a shaky investigation and the evidence was more in favor of some of his friends being dirty, firing the Chief of Police who is leading the investigation … *

That, they understand. Right down at a bone-deep level.

This is the kind of thing that sparks a general consensus amongst the LA Chiefs that someone has let their dog off the leash. Time to put him down.

*this has been tried in LA County. It has not worked out well for said City Manager.

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BeachDem  May 9, 2017 • 7:03:01pm

re: #14 HappyWarrior

The most pathetic thing about KAC is she knows Trump is a dirtbag but she doesn’t care.

Takes one to know one…

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Dr. Matt  May 9, 2017 • 7:04:06pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

Amen. I’ll supply the rusty chainsaws and the gas for them.

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stpaulbear  May 9, 2017 • 7:04:18pm

If you’re wondering what your representative has to say about the Comey firing, WaPo has a pretty extensive selection of tweets and statements. Both of my senators were in there.

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MsJ  May 9, 2017 • 7:04:20pm

re: #213 Anymouse

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 7:04:21pm

re: #225 BeachDem

Takes one to know one…

Yep did you see that I started that BBC documentary on the Troubles? Fascinating stuff.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 9, 2017 • 7:04:23pm

re: #208 teleskiguy

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Skip Intro  May 9, 2017 • 7:06:11pm

Well, it’s all over. Trump has hired a law firm to send a certified letter to Lindsey Graham saying he has no business in russia, doesn’t even know how to spell russia, and no one in his family can even find russia on a map.

So that’s that.

nbcnews.com

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Dr. Matt  May 9, 2017 • 7:06:17pm

re: #228 MsJ

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 7:06:34pm

Today’s firing of James Comey is so goddamned troubling. If Fuckface Von Clownstick keeps his office we can expect kangaroo courts and activists and journalists jailed for years without trial. It’s fucking scary what’s going on.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2017 • 7:07:04pm

re: #221 Anymouse

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“It’s polygraphic!”

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2017 • 7:07:11pm
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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 7:08:07pm

re: #230 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 7:08:26pm

re: #205 teleskiguy

I’m really not sure how that qualifies as a “sanity break.”

How about this? A guinea pig break:

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 7:08:51pm

re: #237 Anymouse

How about this? A guinea pig break:

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See? That’s more like it!

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2017 • 7:09:34pm
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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 7:10:17pm
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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2017 • 7:10:22pm

re: #223 A wild WITHAK appeared!

I have to say - I don’t trust Claude Taylor, Scott Dworkin or Palmer Report. I get a really bad feeling about their unsourced “bombshell” stories.

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Dr. Matt  May 9, 2017 • 7:11:13pm

re: #237 Anymouse

How about this? A guinea pig break:

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I’ll see your guinea pig break and raise you this:

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makeitstop  May 9, 2017 • 7:11:55pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

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This makes three things that Claude Taylor guy has gotten right in the past week.

I might have to take him out of the ‘take with a grain of salt’ column.

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2017 • 7:12:39pm
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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 7:13:21pm

re: #244 gocart mozart

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It’s such a stupid argument.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 7:13:22pm

re: #233 teleskiguy

Today’s firing of James Comey is so goddamned troubling. If Fuckface Von Clownstick keeps his office we can expect kangaroo courts and activists and journalists jailed for years without trial. It’s fucking scary what’s going on.

See… there’s one problem, and it’s a big one. Trump’s mental health is pretty much a giant question mark. It’s never been examined. He may be in severe mental decay right now… the symptoms have been there.

It’s bad enough to see an impatient 70 year old think that he’s a king. It’s worse when his mind is deteriorating AND he creates a whole new class of political marytrs.

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2017 • 7:14:01pm

re: #243 makeitstop

This makes three things that Claude Taylor guy has gotten right in the past week.

I might have to take him out of the ‘take with a grain of salt’ column.

Not me. I don’t trust him - I think he’s one of the left wing equivalents of Breitbart/Gateway Pundit.

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SteelPH  May 9, 2017 • 7:14:52pm

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KGxvi  May 9, 2017 • 7:15:08pm

Not sure it’s been mentioned, but this makes the story a bit more interesting:

Federal prosecutors have issued grand jury subpoenas to associates of former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn seeking business records, as part of the ongoing probe of Russian meddling in last year’s election, according to people familiar with the matter. CNN learned of the subpoenas hours before President Donald Trump fired FBI director James Comey.

I don’t see anyway that this ends without Trump leaving office early.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 7:16:06pm

Conservative thought leaders circling the wagons.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  May 9, 2017 • 7:16:50pm

re: #127 DodgerFan1988

All the conservatives websites like Breibart, The Blaze, Daily Caller, The National Review, Pajamas Media, Right Wing New, and Townhall are calling for Trump to appoint as the new Director of The FBI someone who will prosecute Hillary Clinton and crackdown on Black Lives Matters, Antifa, and the Resistance movements.

How long before Donald Trump attempts to make it a crime to be a member of an opposition party or to publicly speak out against him? He’s gone well beyond dipping his toe into that cesspool called nationalist fascism - with this action he’s dived headfirst and is more than willing to start a national purge.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 9, 2017 • 7:16:57pm

re: #248 SteelPH

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 7:17:08pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

Here’s the CNN story on it: cnn.com:

“We’ve made a request, to FinCEN in the Treasury Department, to make sure, not just for example vis-a-vis the President, but just overall our effort to try to follow the intel no matter where it leads,” Sen. Mark Warner told CNN. “You get materials that show if there have been, what level of financial ties between, I mean some of the stuff, some of the Trump-related officials, Trump campaign-related officials and other officials and where those dollars flow — not necessarily from Russia.”

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 7:17:55pm
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ipsos  May 9, 2017 • 7:18:01pm

I can’t wait to get up tomorrow morning and work my way down the list of every Senator’s office to demand an independent counsel.

If every angry American did the same… could they ignore all of us?

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 7:18:12pm

re: #250 teleskiguy

Conservative thought leaders circling the wagons.

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I can think Comey acted unethically and still think Trump fired him for bs reasons. I know they don’t teach intellectual honesty at the imbred NRO Rich but there’s nothing logically inconsistent with that.

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2017 • 7:18:16pm
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  May 9, 2017 • 7:18:21pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

I have to say - I don’t trust Claude Taylor, Scott Dworkin or Palmer Report. I get a really bad feeling about their unsourced “bombshell” stories.

I tend to agree, but he’s been talking about the GJ story for weeks now. I had intended to continue taking his reporting with the proper amount of salt.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 7:19:52pm

re: #257 Charles Johnson

It’s difficult for conservatives. There’s no shades of grey, it’s all black and white. Critical thinking is an absent trait for most conservatives.

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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2017 • 7:20:34pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

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Unbelievable! What the hell is happening in this country? This is as bad as that protester facing jail time for laughing at Sessions. We need to be protesting much more. We’re losing our constitutional rights.

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austin_blue  May 9, 2017 • 7:21:06pm

re: #249 KGxvi

Not sure it’s been mentioned, but this makes the story a bit more interesting:

I don’t see anyway that this ends without Trump leaving office early.

Nope. This is the road to impeachment and resignation to avoid conviction. Didn’t they learn *anything* from the Nixon years?

What a bunch of maroons.

History may not repeat, but sure as fuck, it echoes.

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Skip Intro  May 9, 2017 • 7:22:01pm

re: #251 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

That’s what “opening up the libel laws” is all about. He will try.

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KGxvi  May 9, 2017 • 7:22:26pm

re: #261 austin_blue

Nope. This is the road to impeachment and resignation to avoid conviction. Didn’t they learn *anything* from the Nixon years?

What a bunch of maroons.

History may not repeat, but sure as fuck, it echoes.

Trump was too busy doing coke off the asses of strippers in the 70s to have learned anything. The rest of the crew? They signed on with Trump, so: fuck ‘em.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 7:22:37pm

Trump thought Comey acted awful too but didn’t fire him until now but of course Lowry doesn’t mention that because he’s a dishonest hack just like all the other NRO jackasses who like to circle jerk themselves telling themselves how intelligent they are.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 9, 2017 • 7:23:04pm

Behold ‘tis I the commander
Whose grip controls you all
Resist me not, surrender
I’ll no compassion call
Capture of humanity
(Tyrant) Conqueror of all
(Tyrant) Hideous destructor
(Tyrant) Every man shall fall
Your very lives are held within my fingers
I snap them and you cower down in fear
You spineless things who belly down to slither
To the end of the world you follow to be near
Capture of humanity
(Tyrant) Conqueror of all
(Tyrant) Hideous destructor
(Tyrant) Every man shall fall
Mourn for us oppressed in fear
Chained and shackled we are bound
Freedom choked in dread we live
Since Tyrant was enthroned
I listen not to sympathy
Whilst ruler of this land
Withdraw your feeble aches and moans
Or suffer smite from this my hand
Capture of humanity
(Tyrant) Conqueror of all
(Tyrant) Hideous destructor
(Tyrant) Every man shall fall
Mourn for us oppressed in fear
Chained and shackled we are bound
Freedom choked in dread we live
Since Tyrant was enthroned
My legions faithful unto death
I’ll summon to my court
And as you perish each of you
Shall scream as you are sought
Capture of humanity
(Tyrant) Conqueror of all
(Tyrant) Hideous destructor
(Tyrant) Every man shall fall

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 7:23:07pm
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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 7:24:01pm

re: #220 HappyWarrior

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Mr. Johnson: It was your article on why you were leaving the right wing that first brought me to Little Green Footballs when I read about it at Huffington Post. I’d never heard of LGF before that article.

It would appear that your article was prescient: predicting the normalisation of fascist apologists and authoritarians.

Since your Website was founded on conservative ideals and policy, that article you wrote was quite the interesting view from inside “Movement Conservative.”

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EPR-radar  May 9, 2017 • 7:24:21pm

re: #264 HappyWarrior

Trump thought Comey acted awful too but didn’t fire him until now but of course Lowry doesn’t mention that because he’s a dishonest hack just like all the other NRO jackasses who like to circle jerk themselves telling themselves how intelligent they are.

Mental masturbation has been the business model of the National Review since its founding.

After all, there has never been an argument for American Conservatism that was either rational or civilized.

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Weaselone  May 9, 2017 • 7:24:25pm

re: #262 Skip Intro

That’s what “opening up the libel laws” is all about. He will try.

If he opens up the libel laws, Obama and Hillary will end up owning every media outlet in the country.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 7:26:20pm

re: #250 teleskiguy

Conservative thought leaders circling the wagons.

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I’m ashamed to say that I still have several years worth of National Reviews from a decade ago, during my dumb/stupid era in life. I don’t know what to do with them: they probably aren’t recyclable, and I sure as hell wouldn’t want to give them to a booksale or a garage sale. Burning them really doesn’t sit well with me, either.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 9, 2017 • 7:27:13pm

re: #270 Myron Falwell

Shred and use as packing material.

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austin_blue  May 9, 2017 • 7:27:33pm

So, yes or no questions:

1) Has the Special Prosecutor law been allowed to expire?

2) Would it require an Act of Congress to allow a Special Prosecutor to be appointed to take over the FBI investigation?

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 7:27:46pm

re: #227 stpaulbear

If you’re wondering what your representative has to say about the Comey firing, WaPo has a pretty extensive selection of tweets and statements. Both of my senators were in there.

Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.)

“Regardless of how you think Director Comey handled the unprecedented complexities of the 2016 election cycle, the timing of this firing is very troubling. Jim Comey is an honorable public servant, and in the midst of a crisis of public trust that goes well beyond who you voted for in the presidential election, the loss of an honorable public servant is a loss for the nation. As the chairman of the Judiciary Committee’s Oversight Subcommittee, I have reached out to the Deputy Attorney General for clarity on his rationale for recommending this action.”

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EPR-radar  May 9, 2017 • 7:28:04pm

re: #269 Weaselone

If he opens up the libel laws, Obama and Hillary will end up owning every media outlet in the country.

Even Trumpists with shit for brains know how this works:

1) Corrupt the judiciary, then
2) Declare open season on ‘libel’ vs. Republicans.

Libel can be defined as consisting of any accurate description of Republican actions, or any reasonable inferences from those deeds as to the underlying character of their perpetrators.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 7:28:32pm

re: #272 austin_blue

So, yes or no questions:

1) Has the Special prosecutor law been allowed to expire?

2) Would it require an Act of Congress to allow a Special Prosecutor to be appointed to take over the FBI investigation?

1. Yes
2. The AG has the current authority. Congress would have to do its job. Which is going to take pressure from us.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 7:29:03pm

re: #272 austin_blue

So, yes or no questions:

1) Has the Special Prosecutor law been allowed to expire?

2) Would it require an Act of Congress to allow a Special Prosecutor to be appointed to take over the FBI investigation?

1) Yes. The only person in authority to call for a special prosecutor is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.

2.) This, I’m not sure of.

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ipsos  May 9, 2017 • 7:29:44pm

re: #270 Myron Falwell

I put magazines in recycling all the time. Dump ‘em!

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 7:30:08pm

re: #274 EPR-radar

Even Trumpists with shit for brains know how this works:

1) Corrupt the judiciary, then
2) Declare open season on ‘libel’ vs. Republicans.

Libel can be defined as consisting of any accurate description of Republican actions, or any reasonable inferences from those deeds as to the underlying character of their perpetrators.

The problem is, even with Obama not being able to fill every seat, he filled quite a few and has pushed a number of courts left. And even some of those judges that are older Republicans aren’t as conservative as this group wants them to be.

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No Depression  May 9, 2017 • 7:31:34pm

Well this tweet is sure going over real well. /

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goddamnedfrank  May 9, 2017 • 7:31:59pm
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Skip Intro  May 9, 2017 • 7:32:07pm

re: #269 Weaselone

If he opens up the libel laws, Obama and Hillary will end up owning every media outlet in the country.

You don’t get it. He would only open up the laws for him.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 7:32:35pm

re: #242 Dr. Matt

I’ll see your guinea pig break and raise you this:

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I’ll trump that with a cat video:

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 7:32:37pm

re: #280 goddamnedfrank

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austin_blue  May 9, 2017 • 7:33:09pm

re: #275 Belafon

1. Yes

2. The AG has the current authority. Congress would have to do its job. Which is going to take pressure from us.

Okay, follow-on:

Since the AG has recused himself from the actual investigation, is he still the controlling legal authority in appointing a Special Prosecutor?

(You see where I’m going here? Is this a circular cluster fuck or not?)

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garzooma  May 9, 2017 • 7:34:17pm

re: #257 Charles Johnson

Rich Lowry ✔ @RichLowry
Never has a FBI director been so vociferously defended by a party that believes he threw a national election by going outside DOJ rules

You can oppose gambling, but still realize that Captain Renault is full of shit.

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Stanley Sea  May 9, 2017 • 7:34:17pm

re: #279 No Depression

Well this tweet is sure going over real well. /

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Once again, you can tell the fail of a tweet by the replies

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Romantic Heretic  May 9, 2017 • 7:34:44pm

re: #124 Myron Falwell

One political party is proving itself to be totally above the law and is proudly flaunting its willing hatred of the law.

The law of the land is increasingly in danger.

And yet they claim to be the party of law and order constantly.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 7:34:50pm

re: #271 GlutenFreeJesus

re: #277 ipsos

Thanks! I may just do both! :)

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 7:34:58pm
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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 7:36:11pm
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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 7:36:13pm

re: #287 Romantic Heretic

And yet they claim to be the party of law and order constantly.

Projection to the nth degree. That’s the only thing Republicans excel in. (That, and making our lives annoying AF.)

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 7:36:54pm

re: #291 teleskiguy

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 7:37:26pm

Actually Clarke technically is a Democrat now that I think about it.

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2017 • 7:37:29pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 9, 2017 • 7:37:52pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

Not me. I don’t trust him - I think he’s one of the left wing equivalents of Breitbart/Gateway Pundit.

Stay wary. Good advice.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 7:38:22pm

re: #281 Skip Intro

You don’t get it. He would only open up the laws for him.

Doesn’t that take an act of Congress, though? Or am I totally missing something here? (Not that Republicans would stand up to him — they wouldn’t — but their dysfunction is astounding.)

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Stanley Sea  May 9, 2017 • 7:39:19pm

Yeah

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 7:39:26pm

re: #294 HappyWarrior

Actually Clarke technically is a Democrat now that I think about it.

Still is a registered Democrat.

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nines09  May 9, 2017 • 7:39:49pm

Justice under Republican values

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 7:40:01pm

re: #295 gocart mozart

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 7:40:23pm
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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 7:40:28pm

re: #299 Myron Falwell

Still is a registered Democrat.

That’s what I mean. He’s a Dem like Kim Davis was a Dem though.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 7:42:01pm
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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 7:42:22pm

Does anyone seriously believe Republicans think the Comey firing is about “restoring public confidence in the FBI?” Anyone trying to sell that stupid lie needs to be called out.

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Skip Intro  May 9, 2017 • 7:42:26pm

re: #297 Myron Falwell

Trump is special.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 9, 2017 • 7:43:08pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 7:43:31pm

re: #303 HappyWarrior

That’s what I mean. He’s a Dem like Kim Davis was a Dem though.

Exactly. Still, that’s assuming Trump wants to honor any past practices. He sure as hell wouldn’t, and you and I know it.

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Skip Intro  May 9, 2017 • 7:43:37pm

re: #298 Stanley Sea

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Oh yes they do. They just don’t care.

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 7:44:14pm
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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 7:44:35pm
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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 7:44:36pm
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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 7:44:37pm

re: #308 Myron Falwell

Exactly. Still, that’s assuming Trump wants to honor any past practices. He sure as hell wouldn’t, and you and I know it.

I really think it’s going to be Rudy or some other Trump lackey.

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piratedan  May 9, 2017 • 7:44:41pm

re: #298 Stanley Sea

or what is even more scary… they do know and are either complicit or perhaps worse, don’t care

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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2017 • 7:44:47pm

re: #298 Stanley Sea

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How do we know that? They don’t care as long as they get their agenda passed.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2017 • 7:45:07pm

re: #310 jaunte

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 9, 2017 • 7:45:40pm

Can attest, this is true. Have to start plugging away at the next book tomorrow anyway.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2017 • 7:45:42pm

re: #311 jaunte

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 7:47:05pm

re: #298 Stanley Sea

I don’t think Ryan and McConnell are reckless. They know what’s going on. Worse so, they are more than likely connected intrinsically with said corruption.

Practically the entire line of succession is tainted and unfit to serve, if not deserving of being locked up.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 7:48:03pm
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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 7:48:55pm
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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 7:50:03pm

re: #279 No Depression

There’s a great term in the replies I might use:

I accept a lot of things about Texas, including the large number of idiots. But some things go over the line. “Texism” is a pretty good term.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 7:50:09pm
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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 7:50:19pm
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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 7:50:30pm
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MsJ  May 9, 2017 • 7:50:32pm

re: #244 gocart mozart

Nick Searcy is in that thread calling people names and generally being the asshole he is. No wonder he likes trump. They’re both old men who bitch about everything and call people names…7 years old mentally.

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2017 • 7:50:56pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2017 • 7:51:14pm

re: #280 goddamnedfrank

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Lol! Revolution! Kind of feel sorry for any suckers who let Sarandon talk them into voting against Secretary Clinton. They’ll suffer while Sarandon continues to live the high life.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 7:51:36pm

re: #325 jaunte

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ObserverArt  May 9, 2017 • 7:51:47pm

Lawrence O’Donnell just reported Chuck Schumer is calling the Democratic Senators together tomorrow at 9:30 AM for a sessions. Speculations is the Democrats gather together and do whatever they can to say they are going to refuse Senate business until a special prosecutor is called for.

It could be looked at as holding their breath and turning red and it will be by many.

Also, there seems to be some cracking in the Republicans as far as also calling for special prosecutors, outside investigations and coming to terms they have real problems right now.

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 7:52:24pm
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Skip Intro  May 9, 2017 • 7:52:24pm

So here’s the Fox spin tonight with all the usual shit speakers present.

“The beleaguered Trump team went nuclear on offense. KellyAnne and Anderson had a rematch. Now on FoxNews: Hannity, Jay Sekalow, Sarah Carter, Laura Ingram and Lou Dobbs throw Comey under the bus bigly, absolutely devastating. Blame him for everything. “The biggest scandal in the history of the Republic” But instead of investigating the facts of Russia… the whole idea is investigate Hillary Clinton. It’s unbelievable. They’re actually saying Comey was compromised so all Obama Administration work has to be thrown out and starting over. The IRS. Fast and Furious. And especially Benghazi. Hannity finished with the “she should be in jail” line. This is the worst and most dangerous deflection ever. It reairs at 1am EDT, will look for it but it’s a whole segment. “

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 7:52:59pm

Wonkette explodes on the firing of FBI Director James Comey:

wonkette.com

(NSFW headline of course, because it’s Wonkette)

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 7:54:07pm

re: #325 jaunte

This is why the story will not go away. Now this is another “inaugural crowd” story that Trump just won’t be able to let go of, regardless of how bad he looks as a result.

Why? Because he was caught off guard and thought this was no big deal. Now he feels slighted.

Watch as Trump single-handedly keeps this story in the headlines for the long term… to compensate for his small unit.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 7:54:11pm
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BeachDem  May 9, 2017 • 7:55:02pm

re: #60 BigPapa

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Rod Rosenstein has been Deputy Attorney General for less than two weeks—how is it that his word is suddenly the be all end all?

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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2017 • 7:55:24pm

re: #330 ObserverArt

Lawrence O’Donnell just reported Chuck Schumer is calling the Democratic Senators together tomorrow at 9:30 AM for a sessions. Speculations is the Democrats gather together and do whatever they can to say they are going to refuse Senate business until a special prosecutor is called for.

It could be looked at as holding their breath and turning red and it will be by many.

Also, there seems to be some cracking in the Republicans as far as also calling for special prosecutors, outside investigations and coming to terms they have real problems right now.

Great. That’s what Democrats need to do. We’re in emergency mode and shouldn’t be going about business as usual. Hopefully a few decent Republicans will join them.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 7:55:33pm

re: #330 ObserverArt

Lawrence O’Donnell just reported Chuck Schumer is calling the Democratic Senators together tomorrow at 9:30 AM for a sessions. Speculations is the Democrats gather together and do whatever they can to say they are going to refuse Senate business until a special prosecutor is called for.

It could be looked at as holding their breath and turning red and it will be by many.

Also, there seems to be some cracking in the Republicans as far as also calling for special prosecutors, outside investigations and coming to terms they have real problems right now.

It could also be looked at as the actions people have been wanting them to take, and a nice rallying point for Democrats.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 7:56:31pm

re: #335 teleskiguy

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Hopefully we get Pence gone too like we did with Agnew.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 7:57:42pm

re: #339 HappyWarrior

Hopefully we get Pence gone too like we did with Agnew.

For that to happen, one of the things we need to do is stop hoping it will all blow up next week. This is going to take a while, and we’re going to have to keep on our toes, and not get tired.

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stpaulbear  May 9, 2017 • 7:58:56pm

re: #300 nines09

German magazine cover from one month ago.

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 7:59:07pm

We don’t need to count people. They’re just voters.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 7:59:17pm

Blinded by hate.

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2017 • 7:59:17pm
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MsJ  May 9, 2017 • 7:59:36pm

re: #327 gocart mozart

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Jenner7  May 9, 2017 • 8:00:05pm

re: #344 gocart mozart

I heard this was cancelled.

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stpaulbear  May 9, 2017 • 8:00:44pm

re: #341 stpaulbear

German magazine cover from one month ago.

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Oops. I think I read the date wrong. Fourth of February?

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 8:01:01pm
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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 8:01:17pm

re: #330 ObserverArt

Lawrence O’Donnell just reported Chuck Schumer is calling the Democratic Senators together tomorrow at 9:30 AM for a sessions. Speculations is the Democrats gather together and do whatever they can to say they are going to refuse Senate business until a special prosecutor is called for.

It could be looked at as holding their breath and turning red and it will be by many.

Also, there seems to be some cracking in the Republicans as far as also calling for special prosecutors, outside investigations and coming to terms they have real problems right now.

That is what needs to happen. I was just talking to my spouse and said it is time for civil disobedience in the streets…blocking federal courthouses etc. Shut it the fuck down. I don’t want to be arrested… but we are at that point.

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Jenner7  May 9, 2017 • 8:01:21pm
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BigPapa  May 9, 2017 • 8:02:24pm
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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 8:02:39pm

re: #343 teleskiguy

Blinded by hate.

Typical Republican mental illness.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 8:03:13pm

re: #350 Jenner7

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2017 • 8:03:25pm

re: #346 Jenner7

Has it? tweet is time stamped 7:18 so has there been new news?

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 8:04:58pm

re: #348 Belafon

Oy, another Republican with absolutely zero political clout speaking up.

Zero divided by zero is still zero.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:05:38pm

YOU CRITICIZED HIM FIRST!

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 8:06:45pm

re: #343 teleskiguy

Blinded by hate.

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They want Hillary, Obama, all of BLM and anybody who was in the Women’s March thrown in jail…and getting one of their own into the top spot of the FBI seems to be their best bet to punish all of the rest of us.

Again, this is Trump and Fox News trying to turn us into Turkey.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 8:07:08pm

Off-topic:

My wife went to the Post Office today to mail a package to her brother.

She asked about the eclipse stamps to be issued by the Postal Service and when they would become available.

The postmistress noted that the Post Office is going to release them later in the month in every city and town on the path of the eclipse first, and will allow those towns to use a “first day of issue” cancellation stamp.

That means we’ll get those stamps on the first day of issue. I have a bunch of postcards that are eclipse-themed I intend to send on the first day of issue.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:07:54pm

re: #357 Scottish Dragon

They want Hillary, Obama, all of BLM and anybody who was in the Women’s March thrown in jail…and getting one of their own into the top spot of the FBI seems to be their best bet to punish all of the rest of us.

Again, this is Trump and Fox News trying to turn us into Turkey.

Turkey, Franconist Spain works too.

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 8:08:29pm
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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 8:08:45pm
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Robert O.  May 9, 2017 • 8:08:57pm

You have got to why the Trump crime family doesn’t want to be investigated.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:09:20pm

Rhetorical question here but I wonder if even Trump’s cultists are going ot buy the bs that they were outraged about how Comey treated Clinton.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 8:09:24pm

My weasel Republican senator.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:09:36pm

re: #361 Scottish Dragon

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retired cynic  May 9, 2017 • 8:09:43pm

On another subject, I was finally able to get the FCC to accept my comment about Net Neutrality, and there are now >555,000 comments. Before this, almost nothing went over a couple of hundred comments. So Big Whoop!

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 8:09:49pm

re: #338 Belafon

It could also be looked at as the actions people have been wanting them to take, and a nice rallying point for Democrats.

Why just the senators? Do it in the house, too. Deprive the GOP of quorum and literally shut the whole legislative branch down in protest.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:09:52pm

re: #362 Robert O.

You have got to why the Trump crime family doesn’t want to be investigated.

It really makes me wonder what more is out there.

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 8:11:06pm

re: #368 HappyWarrior

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 8:11:50pm

re: #367 Myron Falwell

Why just the senators? Do it in the house, too. Deprive the GOP of quorum and literally shut the whole legislative branch down in protest.

House Dems should get together and show a unified front, but they have no real power in the House. They can’t stop anything. Senate Dems have power unless McConnell wants to nuke the whole joint.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 8:12:10pm

re: #360 jaunte

That front page is going to leave a mark.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:12:10pm

re: #369 jaunte

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The funniest thing would be if they were legit but there was something else lurking there like the pee pee.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 8:12:46pm
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austin_blue  May 9, 2017 • 8:13:19pm

re: #322 Belafon

There’s a great term in the replies I might use:

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I accept a lot of things about Texas, including the large number of idiots. But some things go over the line. “Texism” is a pretty good term.

It is. It is the shame of the State. Living in one of the blue pimples brings it home every day.

The people running the State are just fucking nut jobs. Science denying, gay baiting, civil rights hating, nut jobs.

The only thing keeping the State from going completely off the deep end is the Speaker of the Texas House, Joe Straus, who is keeping the most rabid Legislation passed by the Texas Senate from even getting into Committee.

The pressure to remove him as Speaker for the 2019 Session will be huge.

He’s a nice Jewish boy from San Antonio who retains a shred of personal integrity and dignity. The gaspers who hate him hate him because he’s a Jooh!, of course.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:14:55pm

re: #374 austin_blue

It is. It is the shame of the State. Living in one of the blue pimples brings it home every day.

The people running the State are just fucking nut jobs. Science denying, gay baiting, civil rights hating, nut jobs.

The only thing keeping the State from going completely off the deep end is the Speaker of the Texas House, Joe Straus, who is keeping the most rabid Legislation passed by the Texas Senate from even getting into Committee.

The pressure to remove him as Speaker for the 2019 Session will be huge.

He’s a nice Jewish boy from San Antonio who retains a shred of personal integrity and dignity. The gaspers who hate him hate him because he’s a Jooh!, of course.

Yeah I remember hearing about the efforts to remove him.

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 8:16:32pm
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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 8:18:59pm

… deleted … posted a Twitter account that was fake … my apologies

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2017 • 8:19:34pm

re: #376 jaunte

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Yes, yes, yes. This stupidity can and should be exploited. I think some MAGA folks can be made angry.

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piratedan  May 9, 2017 • 8:19:36pm

re: #372 HappyWarrior

hell at this point, I’m thinking that its money… following the money… namely loans guaranteed by Russian mobsters, laundering drug and sex money for golf course and real estate and then converting that back to clean cash with low low low interest rates (or non-existent ones cloaked as finders or financial fees). Trump ges out of debt, the Russians get the money “cleaned” and in the end, they get politics and policies that give them even more of a free hand.

Then they play the GOP in the same game, deep dark money for campaigns in order to treat minorities like shit, fuck up the US rebound from the financial crisis, gut off the head of the serpent most likely to challenge them in foreign policy while the GOP gets to make rich people richer, like they’ve always wanted. They get to restore the gilded age of hookers and blow and get to make women objects again, so they can get laid by doing things like promising them jobs or healthcare, you know… the good old days…

and there are still just enough haters and bigots out there to get the job done, the media has always given them a pass and turning the NYT loose on Clinton allowed them to try and get that major scalp that they’ve always lusted for after the Post brought down Nixon. Politics had a veneer of ethics and morals then, nowadays, I think finding a GOP legislator who has that is a reach, sure you can maybe find a few, but reading the twitter feeds of the many, sure makes you think that its purely the party of spite these days.

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 8:19:59pm

The orange shitgibbon is rubbing it in our faces.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 8:20:03pm

re: #377 Anymouse

Caught by a fake Twitter account. That said, I can imagine Mr. Spicer saying this… .

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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 8:20:15pm

re: #377 Anymouse

That’s a fake account!

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mmmirele  May 9, 2017 • 8:20:29pm

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2017 • 8:21:22pm

re: #377 Anymouse

Need a bigger shovel, Mr. Spicer?

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I have to go to bed, but tomorrow’s briefing will be a shit show. I hope Mr. Spicer has wings.

I’ll miss it due to all-day meetings, but will get my hot takes here.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 8:21:24pm

re: #382 teleskiguy

That’s a fake account!

I figured it out about half a second after I posted the tweet. Should I delete it?

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Kragar  May 9, 2017 • 8:21:25pm
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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 8:21:28pm

re: #357 Scottish Dragon

They want Hillary, Obama, all of BLM and anybody who was in the Women’s March thrown in jail…and getting one of their own into the top spot of the FBI seems to be their best bet to punish all of the rest of us.

Again, this is Trump and Fox News trying to turn us into Turkey.

That’s assuming we’ll all go quietly into the good night.

Fox News primarily appeals to the 65-dead crowd that can’t figure out how to operate a smartphone. Ergo, Trump.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 8:22:07pm
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freetoken  May 9, 2017 • 8:22:16pm

re: #387 Myron Falwell

That’s assuming we’ll all go quietly into the good night.

Fox News primarily appeals to the 65-dead crowd that can’t figure out how to operate a smartphone. Ergo, Trump.

But they still vote.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 8:22:24pm

re: #383 mmmirele

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:22:24pm

re: #376 jaunte

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Comstock is going ot get a tough opponent here in VA-10 likely. Jennifer Wexton is a very good candidate. I actually met her my first day getting signatures for Perriello since she was at the farmers market with her husband. She also knows my boss.

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BeachDem  May 9, 2017 • 8:22:47pm

re: #147 teleskiguy

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I wonder what grade Maggie H will give Huckabee Jr. on this delivery? She thought Sanders was just peachy last week. (And I see that is who the yam is sending out tomorrow, instead of Sean)

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:23:13pm

re: #386 Kragar

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NOw that’s a real account which is more pathetic than the fake Spicer one that AM just posted so AM I can see why you fell for fake Spicey.

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TedStriker  May 9, 2017 • 8:23:15pm
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teleskiguy  May 9, 2017 • 8:23:17pm

re: #385 Anymouse

I figured it out about half a second after I posted the tweet. Should I delete it?

Entirely up to you. If it were me, I would. With a disclaimer.

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Belafon  May 9, 2017 • 8:24:03pm

re: #385 Anymouse

I figured it out about half a second after I posted the tweet. Should I delete it?

I’d add a comment above it saying it’s fake, and then say below that it’s easy to imagine him saying it.

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Weaselone  May 9, 2017 • 8:24:52pm

re: #392 BeachDem

I wonder what grade Maggie H will give Huckabee Jr. on this delivery? She thought Sanders was just peachy last week. (And I see that is who the yam is sending out tomorrow, instead of Sean)

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Makes sense. She’s a far smoother liar than Spicer.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 8:25:40pm

re: #377 Anymouse

… deleted … posted a Twitter account that was fake … my apologies

Post deleted.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:26:11pm

Gosh that Italian family at the next table sure is
Someone needs to say this to Trump and see what happens.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 8:26:24pm

re: #389 freetoken

But they still vote.

And not only do they vote, they vote with the least possible thought put into it. Mainly they get marching orders from the likes of Rush ‘n Lumpy.

I guess what I’m saying is, Fox is but a part of the problem. They are a big part, but a part nonetheless.

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darthstar  May 9, 2017 • 8:27:17pm

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Brian J.  May 9, 2017 • 8:27:46pm

And meanwhile in Omaha,

Jean Stothert (R) 51,413 53% Winner
Heath Mello (D) 44,977 47%

Yep, Bernie keeps his losing streak intact.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:28:07pm

re: #400 Myron Falwell

And not only do they vote, they vote with the least possible thought put into it. Mainly they get marching orders from the likes of Rush ‘n Lumpy.

I guess what I’m saying is, Fox is but a part of the problem. They are a big part, but a part nonetheless.

I’m thinking that there’s definitely a plan in the wings when the Fox voters die out. Hence why you see peole like Milo being so popular at right wing campuses.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 8:28:30pm
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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 8:28:56pm

re: #400 Myron Falwell

And not only do they vote, they vote with the least possible thought put into it. Mainly they get marching orders from the likes of Rush ‘n Lumpy.

I guess what I’m saying is, Fox is but a part of the problem. They are a big part, but a part nonetheless.

Abortion … guns … religion … gays and lesbians … fear fear fear fear fear.

Conservatism as I understand it can always drive voters to the polls from fear (note all the anti same-sex marriage constitutional amendments on state ballots).

Liberalism does not play on fear, thus it is harder to get out the vote.

That has to change. There is one fear that liberals can credibly cite: the destruction of the rule of law and civil liberties.

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Stanley Sea  May 9, 2017 • 8:29:07pm

re: #351 BigPapa

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freetoken  May 9, 2017 • 8:31:16pm

re: #400 Myron Falwell

Back on my own over-worn topic: the reason these old folk gravitate to Fox is because Fox News was designed for them.

Ok, so what does that mean?

It means that Fox News intentionally reifies, and explicitly does not challenge, the religious worldview in which these 65+ grew up.

Part of the obsession behind the wingnuttery is a desperate escape from the critical landscape of academia of the past 150 years or so. The very environment which dismantled the claims of religions, nationalism, etc.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 8:31:30pm

re: #401 darthstar

Speaking of which, I bought the domain name myronfalwell.com for my online art gallery. (Still populating it with artwork.)

My pseudonym “Myron Falwell” is very much a slam on both Jerrys, the frauds they are.

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Scout  May 9, 2017 • 8:32:14pm

While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation…

While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation…

While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation…

While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation…

This is the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen from a president, and yes I was alive during Nixon.

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ObserverArt  May 9, 2017 • 8:32:15pm

re: #284 austin_blue

Okay, follow-on:

Since the AG has recused himself from the actual investigation, is he still the controlling legal authority in appointing a Special Prosecutor?

(You see where I’m going here? Is this a circular cluster fuck or not?)

Ari Melber was on Lawrence tonight and said the minute Russia is mentioned in anything legal in regards to any component of an investigation, Sessions has to bow out due to his recusal. That is why the letters written had Clinton Emails mentioned as that allowed Sessions to butt into this again and use it to suggest Comey’s dismissal.

Sounds like that is an opening for the Senate and others to work around Sessions.

Just another legal slant on all this.

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BigPapa  May 9, 2017 • 8:32:21pm

re: #385 Anymouse

I figured it out about half a second after I posted the tweet. Should I delete it?

No, leave it up. I need somebody else to point at to cover for all of mine.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 8:33:45pm

re: #402 Brian J.

And meanwhile in Omaha,

Jean Stothert (R) 51,413 53% Winner
Heath Mello (D) 44,977 47%

Yep, Bernie keeps his losing streak intact.

So instead of the Democrat (Heath Mello) who is personally opposed to abortion and signed onto legislation that was far less severe than what the Republicans were offering, we instead get the reëlection of Mayor Stothert. She actively opposes any sort of abortion rights and is seeking to use her office to catapult her to the Unicameral or the Governor’s office.

You run with the Democrat you have, not the Democrat you wish you had. Omaha just reëlected a wingnut.

By the way, Senator Tim Kaine’s position on abortion largely aligned with Heath Mello’s.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:34:17pm

I really think Trump’s mental capacities are shot. I mean yes he always was a dick but there was a coherence to it- I’m rich and fuck beautiful women yay me. I don’t know. This man has no business being President though and I’m furious at the voters who fell for his bullshit and continue to want us to understand their stupidity.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:36:05pm

re: #412 Anymouse

So instead of the Democrat (Heath Mello) who is personally opposed to abortion and signed onto legislation that was far less severe than what the Republicans were offering, we instead get the reëlection of Mayor Stothert. She actively opposes any sort of abortion rights and is seeking to use her office to catapult her to the Unicameral or the Governor’s office.

You run with the Democrat you have, not the Democrat you wish you had. Omaha just reëlected a wingnut.

By the way, Senator Tim Kaine’s position on abortion largely aligned with Heath Mello’s.

You’re misrepresnting Kaine’s record on abortion. Kaine never used his time as Va’s governor and Senator to support restrictions on abortion rights. Mello did during his time in the legislature form what I’ve read.

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 8:37:33pm

Arrested for persistent questioning.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:38:49pm

re: #415 jaunte

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Arrested for persistent questioning.

Speaking of WV, I saw a really good documentary on the state and coal mining in particular.

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austin_blue  May 9, 2017 • 8:39:21pm

re: #379 piratedan

hell at this point, I’m thinking that its money… following the money… namely loans guaranteed by Russian mobsters, laundering drug and sex money for golf course and real estate and then converting that back to clean cash with low low low interest rates (or non-existent ones cloaked as finders or financial fees). Trump ges out of debt, the Russians get the money “cleaned” and in the end, they get politics and policies that give them even more of a free hand.

Then they play the GOP in the same game, deep dark money for campaigns in order to treat minorities like shit, fuck up the US rebound from the financial crisis, gut off the head of the serpent most likely to challenge them in foreign policy while the GOP gets to make rich people richer, like they’ve always wanted. They get to restore the gilded age of hookers and blow and get to make women objects again, so they can get laid by doing things like promising them jobs or healthcare, you know… the good old days…

and there are still just enough haters and bigots out there to get the job done, the media has always given them a pass and turning the NYT loose on Clinton allowed them to try and get that major scalp that they’ve always lusted for after the Post brought down Nixon. Politics had a veneer of ethics and morals then, nowadays, I think finding a GOP legislator who has that is a reach, sure you can maybe find a few, but reading the twitter feeds of the many, sure makes you think that its purely the party of spite these days.

Of *course* it’s about the money. Drumpf is neck deep in Russian money, which means he’s beholden to the gangsters that run Russia. There are 100 families who run the country. They have since the 20’s. Just look at Sochi before the Olympic games. Billions spent, the majority going to Friends of Vlad, and the result are hotels already falling to pieces.

It’s a Kleptocracy. Drumpf’s perfect world, where political power means huge profits.

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Kragar  May 9, 2017 • 8:39:34pm
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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:40:25pm

re: #418 Kragar

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austin_blue  May 9, 2017 • 8:42:59pm

re: #410 ObserverArt

Ari Melber was on Lawrence tonight and said the minute Russia is mentioned in anything legal in regards to any component of an investigation, Sessions has to bow out due to his recusal. That is why the letters written had Clinton Emails mentioned as that allowed Sessions to butt into this again and use it to suggest Comey’s dismissal.

Sounds like that is an opening for the Senate and others to work around Sessions.

Just another legal slant on all this.

Thank you!

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 8:43:07pm

re: #414 HappyWarrior

You’re misrepresnting Kaine’s record on abortion. Kaine never used his time as Va’s governor and Senator to support restrictions on abortion rights. Mello did during his time in the legislature form what I’ve read.

Yeah, no. Heath Mello signed on to legislation in the Unicameral that was a compromise to a Republican bill to far further restrict abortion rights.

Mr. Mello’s compromise bill to mandatory ultrasounds was a bill that would have doctors note that ultrasounds were available, but entirely voluntary. That was the bill that passed, not the GOP “You Must Get An Ultrasound And Listen To GOP Lies About Abortion” bill.

Is that an ideal bill? No. This isn’t California or Massachusetts. Omaha has exactly one Planned Parenthood office, and Mayor Stothert wants it shuttered. Heath Mello did not. (There are only two offices in the state; the other is in Lincoln.)

Until the Democratic Party starts supporting Democrats in this state, the Dems are lucky that Mayor Stothert even had a challenger at all.

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jaunte  May 9, 2017 • 8:44:13pm
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ObserverArt  May 9, 2017 • 8:46:22pm

re: #338 Belafon

It could also be looked at as the actions people have been wanting them to take, and a nice rallying point for Democrats.

Heh, I added that line to fit some of the tone around here tonight.

I’ve always said I am not a wrist slasher. I still believe I guess that right still overcomes wrong.

I can’t speak for the timing as to when it will be made right though. All I know is this is still early even though some think all of this should have been wiped out by now since Trump is so evil.

It took time to get here. For every action there is a reaction and the force and energy put into building something is the same amount force and energy to take it down. It took since May/June of 2015 until November of 2016 to build the Trump Monster. It could take as long to knock him down.

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darthstar  May 9, 2017 • 8:46:46pm

I miss the times when the biggest scandal was having an (admittedly fuckable, even for a straight dude) President wearing a tan suit…

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:46:51pm

re: #421 Anymouse

Yeah, no. Heath Mello signed on to legislation in the Unicameral that was a compromise to a Republican bill to far further restrict abortion rights.

Mr. Mello’s compromise bill to mandatory ultrasounds was a bill that would have doctors note that ultrasounds were available, but entirely voluntary. That was the bill that passed, not the GOP “You Must Get An Ultrasound And Listen To GOP Lies About Abortion” bill.

Is that an ideal bill? No. This isn’t California or Massachusetts. Omaha has exactly one Planned Parenthood office, and Mayor Stothert wants it shuttered. Heath Mello did not. (There are only two offices in the state; the other is in Lincoln.)

Until the Democratic Party starts supporting Democrats in this state, the Dems are lucky that Mayor Stothert even had a challenger at all.

I’m merely pointing out that you compared his record to Kaine. Kaine never supported restrictions on legal abortion as governor and has a 100% record from NARAL and PP since he entered the SEnate. And I know it’s not CA or MA, you’re getting this from a Kaine constiuent who doesn’t exactly live in a bright blue state and whose last governor in fact tried to push a transvaginal ultrasound law on the state’s women. I’m not disagreeing with you that Mello should have been supported but you did mischaracterize Kaine’s record on abortion since he’s been our governor and senator. That was the issue I had with what you said. HAd nothing to do with how much support Mello got.

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BeachDem  May 9, 2017 • 8:47:34pm

re: #229 HappyWarrior

Yep did you see that I started that BBC documentary on the Troubles? Fascinating stuff.

I did see that—I think you will really appreciate the detail. I need to re-watch it. It’s been quite some time since I watched it.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 8:47:36pm

Oy, Lumpy had equally mentally ill Lou Dobbs on that “panel.”

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darthstar  May 9, 2017 • 8:47:48pm

Fuck…the indirect article is off on that post…damn parentheticals.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:48:43pm

re: #426 BeachDem

I did see that—I think you will really appreciate the detail. I need to re-watch it. It’s been quite some time since I watched it.

Yes, I do. Man ti reminds me how much I dislke Thatcher. They brought up my third great grandparents home county and possible hometown though, Ennisskillen in Fermanagh.

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darthstar  May 9, 2017 • 8:49:00pm

re: #427 Myron Falwell

Oy, Lumpy had equally mentally ill Lou Dobbs on that “panel.”

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Scallop, scallop, scallop, CLEAVAGE!!! - I wonder if she speaks.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 9, 2017 • 8:50:02pm

Mmmm, fish tacos for dinner.

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Stanley Sea  May 9, 2017 • 8:50:04pm

It’s eating him alive.

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BeachDem  May 9, 2017 • 8:50:11pm

re: #239 Barefoot Grin

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That was the best thing I’ve seen today. John Dingell is a national treasure. Thanks.

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Myron Falwell  May 9, 2017 • 8:53:19pm

re: #405 Anymouse

Abortion … guns … religion … gays and lesbians … fear fear fear fear fear.

Conservatism as I understand it can always drive voters to the polls from fear (note all the anti same-sex marriage constitutional amendments on state ballots).

Liberalism does not play on fear, thus it is harder to get out the vote.

That has to change. There is one fear that liberals can credibly cite: the destruction of the rule of law and civil liberties.

And that’s a big fucking fear. Nothing about this is normal. Democrat turnout in 2018 shouldn’t be normal, either.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:53:59pm

votesmart.org

votesmart.org

So no their records are different. Perhaps Mello should have gotten more support. TBH though, there’s finite resources and at the risk of sounding like a jerk, I imagine the DNC has a greater priority on maintaining VA’s governor house and flipping NJ’s than the mayorship of Omaha. I know that’s not fair to he good people of Omaha but it’s how it works. Teh state party isn’t funding the cnadidate I’m working for the house of delegates either, we have a very conservative district. The best thing we can do is local awareness and unfortunately it seems Mello came up short in Omaha.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 8:54:22pm

re: #425 HappyWarrior

I’m merely pointing out that you compared his record to Kaine. Kaine never supported restrictions on legal abortion as governor and has a 100% record from NARAL and PP since he entered the SEnate. And I know it’s not CA or MA, you’re getting this from a Kaine constiuent who doesn’t exactly live in a bright blue state and whose last governor in fact tried to push a transvaginal ultrasound law on the state’s women. I’m not disagreeing with you that Mello should have been supported but you did mischaracterize Kaine’s record on abortion since he’s been our governor and senator. That was the issue I had with what you said. HAd nothing to do with how much support Mello got.

Senator Kaine says he is personally opposed to abortion as a Catholic, but would not allow that to influence women’s rights.

Heath Mello said the same. But somehow for him it was different, because he (successfully) fought off a much more restrictive abortion bill in a state with a super-majority of Republicans in the legislature.

Is Mr. Mello’s position the ideal liberal position? No. But it is a fuckton better than Mayor Stothert’s.

Too bad for Omaha, they get to keep their wingnut mayor that wants to drive Planned Parenthood out of Omaha and run for the state legislature. I guess Heath Mello wasn’t pure enough, so any wingnut Republican will do here.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:54:33pm

re: #434 Myron Falwell

And that’s a big fucking fear. Nothing about this is normal. Democrat turnout in 2018 shouldn’t be normal, either.

Needs to be record breaking. Make Nancy speaker again and make Chuck majority leader.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 8:55:35pm

Answer to CNN trivia just now: Robert Bork.

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Scottish Dragon  May 9, 2017 • 8:56:24pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 9, 2017 • 8:57:02pm

I sense a need for a touch of the lighthearted…

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:57:04pm

re: #436 Anymouse

Senator Kaine says he is personally opposed to abortion as a Catholic, but would not allow that to influence women’s rights.

Heath Mello said the same. But somehow for him it was different, because he (successfully) fought off a much more restrictive abortion bill in a state with a super-majority of Republicans in the legislature.

Is Mr. Mello’s position the ideal liberal position? No. But it is a fuckton better than Mayor Stothert’s.

Too bad for Omaha, they get to keep their wingnut mayor that wants to drive Planned Parenthood out of Omaha and run for the state legislature. I guess Heath Mello wasn’t pure enough, so any wingnut Republican will do here.

Mello, I’ve demonstrated to you actually has a record of voting on abortion restrictions. You were incorrect osay it was the same as Kaine’s. And that’s what I’m trying to tell you. They’re not the same. Kaine’s record since becoming VA’s governor and seator resembles Biden and other prominent Catholic Democrats who are personally opposed to abortion but do not vote affimatively on restrictions, Mello did have that. I’m not saying he’s Satan or shouldn’t have been supported, I’m saying you are wrong to say the two men have the same position.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 8:58:11pm

re: #439 Scottish Dragon

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Lovely. I had forgotten about that.

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darthstar  May 9, 2017 • 8:58:42pm
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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 9:00:29pm

My point isn’t to criticize Mello’s record on abortion rights, my point is to defend Tim Kaine’s record and I will point out that Kaine actually did face a lot of scrunity when he was picked but people did see that Kaine had a 100% pro-choice voting record. The objections the activists had with Mello was not his personal beliefs but parts of his voting record. And personally, I think a lot are frustrated by the fact that Sanders who backed him can devise standards for candidates but they’re told to shut up about their concerns regarding this guy’s record on choice. I know Mello would have been better than the Republican who ran in Omaha. I don’t doubt that in the slightest.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 9:03:20pm

re: #435 HappyWarrior

Omaha population: 443,000

Omaha is a larger city than Oakland. Larger than Minneapolis. Larger than New Orleans. Cleveland. Tampa. Honolulu. Norfolk. Orlando.

But okay, we’ll save our party’s money for something.

I’d like the Democratic Party to tell me what they are saving it for, because it sure isn’t for contesting elections everywhere.

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ObserverArt  May 9, 2017 • 9:04:42pm

re: #414 HappyWarrior

You’re misrepresnting Kaine’s record on abortion. Kaine never used his time as Va’s governor and Senator to support restrictions on abortion rights. Mello did during his time in the legislature form what I’ve read.

Thank you. I was writing a response to ‘mouse and decide what is the point. You made it for me.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 9:09:11pm

re: #445 Anymouse

Omaha population: 443,000

Omaha is a larger city than Oakland. Larger than Minneapolis. Larger than New Orleans. Cleveland. Tampa. Honolulu. Norfolk. Orlando.

But okay, we’ll save our party’s money for something.

I’d like the Democratic Party to tell me what they are saving it for, because it sure isn’t for contesting elections everywhere.

I just told you that retaining Virginia’s gubernatorial mansion and flipping NJ’ s is probably a big priority for them this year. Yes, Omaha is bigger than those cities but tell me how much do you think the DNC honestly spends in those cities? And again I’m not contesting your point about that, I do think their priorities are on what I just brought up with my state and New Jersey in which they have not only gubernatorial mansions in the balance but also state legislatures. My big problem with what you said is that Kaine’s record on abortion resembeld Mello. You were incorrect about that. I know Kaine’s record probably better than most Lizards. I’ve literally been voitng for the guy since I could vote. I’m not even disagreeing with you that Melo was insufficiently supported but I do think that you have this wrong idea that the DNC spends tons of money in those cities you mentioned cities. And I hate to break it to you but you do live in a conservatiev state, that’s just a fact. That does NOT mean you should be ignored but it does mean the DNC is going to choose its battles.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 9:11:21pm

re: #446 ObserverArt

Thank you. I was writing a response to ‘mouse and decide what is the point. You made it for me.

As I told him, I know Kaine quite well. I’m going to be voting for him for a fifth time next fall. The man is personally opposed to abortion but he’s never used his power to restrict abortion rights as governor and senator. That’s different than Mello. It just is. And as I said, I understand why the activists were peeved that this guy got a pass whereas other Democrats get the purity test from a certain Vermont Senator.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 9:12:10pm

re: #444 HappyWarrior

My point isn’t to criticize Mello’s record on abortion rights, my point is to defend Tim Kaine’s record and I will point out that Kaine actually did face a lot of scrunity when he was picked but people did see that Kaine had a 100% pro-choice voting record. The objections the activists had with Mello was not his personal beliefs but parts of his voting record. And personally, I think a lot are frustrated by the fact that Sanders who backed him can devise standards for candidates but they’re told to shut up about their concerns regarding this guy’s record on choice. I know Mello would have been better than the Republican who ran in Omaha. I don’t doubt that in the slightest.

Sanders backed him. His own party abandoned him.

Building a party presence takes time. Getting a more liberal message out will take time. But the party has to start somewhere. Mello might have been that start, but instead Omaha will continue reverting its downtown streets to gravel roads because taxes are theft at the point of a gun (and if you want your street paved you have to pay for it yourself).

Thanks to Mayor Stothert, Omaha is the largest city in the nation with gravel downtown streets. Real good for attracting business.

North Omaha is represented by Ernie Chambers (I-atheist) in the state legislature.

Is Mello ideal? No. No candidate is. But he was a mile away better than Stothert. I’m guessing Stothert will be in the state legislature soon. Don’t know about Heath Mello. I’m sure the GOP can come up with an even bigger wingnut than Mayor Stothert for the next mayor’s election.

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BeachDem  May 9, 2017 • 9:13:11pm

re: #298 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Yeah

Time for my semi-regular posting of “We Didn’t Know” from Nineteen fucking sixty five.

We didn’t know said the puzzled voter,
Watching the President on TV
I guess we’ve got to drop those bombs
If we’re gonna keep South Asia free
The President’s such a peaceful man
I guess he’s got some kind of plan
They say we’re torturing prisoners of war,
But I don’t believe that stuff no more
Torturing prisoners is a communist game
And you can bet they’re doing the same
I wish this war was over and through
But what did you expect me to do.

We Didn’t Know

Paxton’s liner notes—“this song is a reflection of my preoccupation with fascism and what makes it tick, particularly in some quarters here in America…Tell me you support the government’s policy if you like, but don’t try to tell me you didn’t know what was going on.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 9:16:03pm

re: #447 HappyWarrior

I didn’t say that Mello’s record on abortion resembled Kaine’s: I said that both candidates said they would not allow their personal views to colour the issue.

You’re misrepresenting Mello’s position: he held off much more severe restrictions from the Republicans here. That doesn’t mean he wants to restrict abortion rights.

Oh well, I hope Omaha is happy with their gravel streets and Mayor Stothert’s efforts to oust Planned Parenthood from Omaha.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 9:16:42pm

re: #449 Anymouse

Sanders backed him. His own party abandoned him.

Building a party presence takes time. Getting a more liberal message out will take time. But the party has to start somewhere. Mello might have been that start, but instead Omaha will continue reverting its downtown streets to gravel roads because taxes are theft at the point of a gun (and if you want your street paved you have to pay for it yourself).

Thanks to Mayor Stothert, Omaha is the largest city in the nation with gravel downtown streets. Real good for attracting business.

North Omaha is represented by Ernie Chambers (I-atheist) in the state legislature.

Is Mello ideal? No. No candidate is. But he was a mile away better than Stothert. I’m guessing Stothert will be in the state legislature soon. Don’t know about Heath Mello. I’m sure the GOP can come up with an even bigger wingnut than Mayor Stothert for the next mayor’s election.

Listen all I want you to know is admti that you mischaracterized my senator’s record on abortion rights. That’s the only reason why I called you out. I don’t disagree with any of the points you’re making about how Mello should have gotten more support and yes it does take time to grow but as I told you, there are finite resources here. You don’t want ot hear it but it’s much more important that the Dems retaining Va and flip NJ’s governor houses than Omaha. And again I ask you, how much DNC money do you really think goes into thoes other city races? And honestly, I think sometimes candidates need to use the lack of DNC support to their advantage especial y in a state like Nebraska where the DNC isn’t exactly popular.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 9:20:36pm

re: #451 Anymouse

I didn’t say that Mello’s record on abortion resembled Kaine’s: I said that both candidates said they would not allow their personal views to colour the issue.

You’re misrepresenting Mello’s position: he held off much more severe restrictions from the Republicans here. That doesn’t mean he wants to restrict abortion rights.

Oh well, I hope Omaha is happy with their gravel streets and Mayor Stothert’s efforts to oust Planned Parenthood from Omaha.

But yet he does have that in his record, i didn’t characteristic Mello’s record. Mello actually has a record of supporting abortion restrictions as a legislator whereas Kaine did not. And while I’m aware he did say that, one can see why some activists may have been a bit wary to trust him. I am not saying it was right or wrong. I just think Kaine and Mello’s records on abortion are not what you made them seem. I have no quarrel with the idea that he should have gotten more support but at the same time, I realize the DNC only has certain resources and I believe that if oyu don’t have the national party’s backing, you can use it to your advantage too.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 9:23:58pm

re: #452 HappyWarrior

Listen all I want you to know is admti that you mischaracterized my senator’s record on abortion rights. That’s the only reason why I called you out. I don’t disagree with any of the points you’re making about how Mello should have gotten more support and yes it does take time to grow but as I told you, there are finite resources here. You don’t want ot hear it but it’s much more important that the Dems retaining Va and flip NJ’s governor houses than Omaha. And again I ask you, how much DNC money do you really think goes into thoes other city races? And honestly, I think sometimes candidates need to use the lack of DNC support to their advantage especial y in a state like Nebraska where the DNC isn’t exactly popular.

Back on the “finite resources” argument again.

Again I ask, what are the Democrats saving their money for?

As for how much DNC money goes into all those cities that are smaller than Omaha, you know? I can’t say. The DNC doesn’t really make that information available, which is one reason I don’t give money to the DNC, the DCCC, or the DSCC. I give it to candidates.

I gave Mr. Mello a small donation. Even though I am a Democrat, I wouldn’t give a dime to the Democratic Party’s efforts until they want to support candidates in all races from President to dogcatcher.

I am tired of turning in blank ballots except for votes for President and my own name on them.

The GOP managed to come up with money to run adverts against me in a village of 128

Is the Democratic Party really that poor?

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Weaselone  May 9, 2017 • 9:24:21pm

re: #449 Anymouse

Sanders backed him. His own party abandoned him.

Building a party presence takes time. Getting a more liberal message out will take time. But the party has to start somewhere. Mello might have been that start, but instead Omaha will continue reverting its downtown streets to gravel roads because taxes are theft at the point of a gun (and if you want your street paved you have to pay for it yourself).

Thanks to Mayor Stothert, Omaha is the largest city in the nation with gravel downtown streets. Real good for attracting business.

North Omaha is represented by Ernie Chambers (I-atheist) in the state legislature.

Is Mello ideal? No. No candidate is. But he was a mile away better than Stothert. I’m guessing Stothert will be in the state legislature soon. Don’t know about Heath Mello. I’m sure the GOP can come up with an even bigger wingnut than Mayor Stothert for the next mayor’s election.

1. I was pretty sure I saw something about the DNC officially backing Mello, despite outcry (probably unfairly) about his position on abortion.
2. How much money do you think the DNC actually chips in for the mayoral races in Boston, Minneapolis or Oakland? I suspect that most of the money comes from a combination of local citizens/companies and outside citizens/groups besides the DNC. The DNC doesn’t just back up trucks full of cash to the campaign HQs in these cities.
3. As you noted, Omaha is a large city. The 2nd richest person in the US lives there. If they don’t want their streets to be gravel, the wealthy people of Omaha need to fork over some cash and the city’s voters need to step up and vote out the morons. It’s not up to Minneapolis and Oakland to do it for you.
4. I’m going to reiterate that these people voted for the candidate that gave them gravel roads in a major urban area. Seriously.Think about that for a second. Gravel roads in a city of more than 400k people.

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bmoak  May 9, 2017 • 9:25:17pm

Since when is it the DNC’s role to fund mayoral elections? It never has been before. It certainly isn’t some huge umbrella organization responsible for all Dems at all levels everywhere. It’s always focused on national level elections, primarily Presidential ones, and certainly has nowhere near the funding, staffing, and capabilities that people (especially Berniebros) seem to think it has.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 9:27:06pm

re: #454 Anymouse

Back on the “finite resources” argument again.

Again I ask, what are the Democrats saving their money for?

As for how much DNC money goes into all those cities that are smaller than Omaha, you know? I can’t say. The DNC doesn’t really make that information available, which is one reason I don’t give money to the DNC, the DCCC, or the DSCC. I give it to candidates.

I gave Mr. Mello a small donation. Even though I am a Democrat, I wouldn’t give a dime to the Democratic Party’s efforts until they want to support candidates in all races from President to dogcatcher.

I am tired of turning in blank ballots except for votes for President and my own name on them.

The GOP managed to come up with money to run adverts against me in a village of 128

Is the Democratic Party really that poor?

I just told you where it’s going. We have two major states with gubernatorial election s this year. You really have no idea how much a commitment it is for these people to run especially people who have to work other jobs while they’re running for office. And I told you, you build your party up from the ground with local people, you don’t do it with the national party. You really think Va became competitive because the DNC put a bunch of money here? NO, we worekd hard on a local level for that. If oyu’re tired of blank ballots, encourage the Democrats that you do know to run. What’s stopping them?

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 9:27:35pm

re: #455 Weaselone

Yup. Dem voters were attacking our own candidate, and unsurprisingly a city that voted for President Obama and recently put a Democratic representative in the US House decided he wasn’t pure enough and didn’t turn out to vote.

What is that cartoon again about GOP voters wanting to crawl over glass and lava to vote for the (R) candidate while (D) voters can’t be bothered with another election unless it’s on Facebook?

459
BeachDem  May 9, 2017 • 9:29:03pm

re: #384 Barefoot Grin

I have to go to bed, but tomorrow’s briefing will be a shit show. I hope Mr. Spicer has wings.

I’ll miss it due to all-day meetings, but will get my hot takes here.

They’re sending Huckabee Junior (Sarah Sanders, who has dropped the Huckabee from her name it appears) out tomorrow.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 9:32:14pm

re: #457 HappyWarrior

(cut for brevity) If you’re tired of blank ballots, encourage the Democrats that you do know to run. What’s stopping them?

Lack of resources and support from the Democratic Party.

Again. The GOP ran adverts against me in a village of 128 people. I can’t complain about the GOP, that’s part of politics. They get how elections work (support all offices). Every candidate is not a rubber stamp of the party platform, even in the GOP.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 9, 2017 • 9:33:05pm

re: #460 Anymouse

Lack of resources and support from the Democratic Party.

Again. The GOP ran adverts against me in a village of 128 people. I can’t complain about the GOP, that’s part of politics. They get how elections work (support all offices). Every candidate is not a rubber stamp of the party platform, even in the GOP.

No, they just vote that way.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 9:34:11pm

Fuck, I’m trying. I don’t even want ot have this argument again. My only problem was saying that Meoo = Kaine on abortion and I’ve found the voting records that disagree with that. I know Mello said he wouldn’t touch abortion if elected Mayor but can you blame pro-choice voters for being a little apprhensive about that given that he did have some votes in his record on that? That’s what was different from Kaine and that was my whole point in the first place. And TBH a lot of people did have that problem with Kaine but it was pointed out that as I said Kaine doesn’t have a record of restricting abortion access. And hoenstly I have to wonder how much DNC support would have made a difference here. You bring up that Dem Congressman, what you never bring up is that seat is historically quite Republican and that the Republicans were going to be gunning to get it back. IT sucks that the Dem lost but I’m tird of you acting like the party has infinite funds to use i nthese races because tehy simply don not.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 9:36:22pm

re: #460 Anymouse

Lack of resources and support from the Democratic Party.

Again. The GOP ran adverts against me in a village of 128 people. I can’t complain about the GOP, that’s part of politics. They get how elections work (support all offices). Every candidate is not a rubber stamp of the party platform, even in the GOP.

YEah and then what happens when the Republican candidate uses all the moeny from the Democratic Party to accuse that person of being a rubber stamp for the “coastal elites.” You want it both ways, you want the party big wigs to focus on your area but you also want them to be able to distance themselves from the party elite while getting their funds. It doesn’t work that way AM.

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Anymouse  May 9, 2017 • 9:37:34pm

re: #462 HappyWarrior

Well, this isn’t going anywhere, so I am going to say goodnight.

465
Weaselone  May 9, 2017 • 9:37:44pm

re: #458 Anymouse

Yup. Dem voters were attacking our own candidate, and unsurprisingly a city that voted for President Obama and recently put a Democratic representative in the US House decided he wasn’t pure enough and didn’t turn out to vote.

What is that cartoon again about GOP voters wanting to crawl over glass and lava to vote for the (R) candidate while (D) voters can’t be bothered with another election unless it’s on Facebook?

I don’t know what to tell you. I agree that Dems need to run people everywhere and at every level, but I’m not certain there’s actually a national level organization that’s truly responsible for that. It’s not the DNC. I don’t believe the RNC handles that for the Republicans. It’s generally the state level parties and organizations set up by crazy rich wingnuts 100. Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem to be a priority for the extremely wealthy on the left and in the center to create similar structures, organization and finance these campaigns, just like they don’t see a need to found/buy media organizations to promote their views.

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BeachDem  May 9, 2017 • 9:37:50pm

re: #429 HappyWarrior

Yes, I do. Man ti reminds me how much I dislke Thatcher. They brought up my third great grandparents home county and possible hometown though, Ennisskillen in Fermanagh.

Maybe we can have a book club chat after we both watch!

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 9:38:27pm

It’s not just the resources though. It’s the time that it takes being a candidate. Most candidates aren’t stinking rich and can just run a campaign of leisure. They have their other jobs that they’re doing during the day. So, here’s a possible solution in the post Citizens United world. We only run laoded candidates. I don’t want that though. IF a candidate’s rich and in line with my valeus fine, but we should have people that can relate with the average American more often than not especially in local elections.

468
HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 9:40:29pm

re: #464 Anymouse

Well, this isn’t going anywhere, so I am going to say goodnight.

Good night. It’s nothing personal but I really think you time and time again do not understand my point because you want to make this a pity party for yourself being in a bright red state that had a once in a blue moon occurance and went for Obama and elected a Dem Rep. People like yourself need to build the Dem Party in your village, that’s not the DNC’s job. You see me bellyaching about the DNC out here? NO, I’m out every weekend since February doing soething for a candidate. But most people don’t have my free time.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2017 • 9:40:43pm

re: #466 BeachDem

Maybe we can have a book club chat after we both watch!

Sounds good.


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