New From Keith Olbermann: We Need the Help of Intel Agencies Around the World
It’s time to lay bare what is known about Donald Trump
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Hey, sorry to go off topic so soon, but someone earlier said that the betting markets has trump at 60% to be impeached. I don’t know anything about those sites… Who are the frontrunner’s to be next POTUS? Anyone follow those sites?
Yeah, this is the line I hear ad nauseam from trump chumps and BoBers alike: “Red-baiting! McCarthyism! If there was any real evidence of collusion, it would’ve been leaked to the Washington Post months ago!!!11!”
And I must confess, I was beginning to think something similar - no smoking gun exists, at least, not one simple and obvious enough to make a dent in the American consciousness.
…but if didn’t…why the hell is trump now acting like it does?! o_O
Trump to NBC: “When I decided to [fire Comey], I said to myself, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story.”
— Philip Rucker (@PhilipRucker) May 11, 2017
Trump can be friends with Putin or President of the United States. He cannot be both. https://t.co/zDeLdQ2S3u
— Simon Rosenberg (@SimonWDC) May 11, 2017
Ha!
next week’s cover pic.twitter.com/QIESFS989c
— Philip Gourevitch (@PGourevitch) May 12, 2017
I feel like what Olbermann is advocating here could be deeply counter-productive. That it would only destabilize the US further and open the opposition to Trump to charges of rank hypocrisy. I understand where he’s coming from but I feel like if we’re going to crawl out the other side of this in any kind of viable condition as a nation state we’ll need to do it on our own.
Please don’t say “bare” and Donald Trump” in the same sentence.
FBI agents are changing their Facebook profile photos to Comey –- A gesture normally reserved for slain colleagues. https://t.co/UjomYeFSEp
— Rula Jebreal (@rulajebreal) May 11, 2017
re: #5 goddamnedfrank
I feel like what Olbermann is advocating here could be deeply counter-productive. That it would only destabilize the US further and open the opposition to Trump to charges of rank hypocrisy. I understand where he’s coming from but I feel like if we’re going to crawl out the other side of this in any kind of viable condition as a nation state we’ll need to do it on our own.
Do we ever really do things on our own? Isn’t the IC truly international anyway?
re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Looks like the only thing tRump accomplished by firing Comey was to piss the entire bureau off.
re: #1 MsJ
Hey, sorry to go off topic so soon, but someone earlier said that the betting markets has trump at 60% to be impeached. I don’t know anything about those sites… Who are the frontrunner’s to be next POTUS? Anyone follow those sites?
If you believe Mensch it’s Orrin Hatch patribotics.blog
But who knows. 25+ Indictments… …so it goes…
A chilling account of the dinner between Trump and Comey as told by several of Comey’s associates:
In a Private Dinner, Trump Demanded Loyalty. Comey Demurred., via @nytimes https://t.co/c1fDDsgbj8
— Josh Kraushaar (@HotlineJosh) May 12, 2017
re: #5 goddamnedfrank
I understand where he’s coming from but I feel like if we’re going to crawl out the other side of this in any kind of viable condition as a nation state we’ll need to do it on our own.
Hopefully you’ll forgive the rest of the free world if we’ve lost a fuckton of faith in America’s ability on that front :/
re: #8 MsJ
Do we ever really do things on our own? Isn’t the IC truly international anyway?
Well certain countries are known to share information…
re: #6 Decatur Deb
The emperor with no clothes, that somehow is always in leather.
I don’t know who created this, but yes. pic.twitter.com/dw5dPLpjbF
— Richard Kadrey (@Richard_Kadrey) May 11, 2017
re: #1 MsJ
Hey, sorry to go off topic so soon, but someone earlier said that the betting markets has trump at 60% to be impeached. I don’t know anything about those sites… Who are the frontrunner’s to be next POTUS? Anyone follow those sites?
Just for reference. No reason. 😇 pic.twitter.com/VFXAKt4xaD
— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) May 11, 2017
It’s not my call but, anyone interested in having the Allied Mastercomputer at the helm? It seems the far superior option.
re: #12 Interesting Times
Hopefully you’ll forgive the rest of the free world if we’ve lost a fuckton of faith in America’s ability on that front :/
You might need to look at some of America’s history as well.
re: #12 Interesting Times
Hopefully you’ll forgive the rest of the free world if we’ve lost a fuckton of faith in America’s ability on that front :/
Understandable, the Electoral College makes our democracy uniquely structurally fucked and even without that our institutions would still be rotting at their core due to untreated racism and greed.
re: #17 Apocalypse
It’s not my call but, anyone interested in having the Allied Mastercomputer at the helm? It seems the far superior option.
“There is another system.”
Just a thought…
What if foreign intel agencies had a plan to leak what they have if they need to?
trump has pissed of the cia and now the fbi. good thing they dont have experience at digging up embarrassing dirt on people.
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) May 11, 2017
re: #17 Apocalypse
It’s not my call but, anyone interested in having the Allied Mastercomputer at the helm? It seems the far superior option.
I’d consider accepting Finch’s Machine, but that’s it. Certainly not Samaritan.
In a private dinner, Trump demanded a pledge of loyalty. Comey said no. How many Republicans have said “yes?” https://t.co/7rFCMLFNzv
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 12, 2017
re: #21 Teukka
Just a thought…
What if foreign intel agencies had a plan to leak what they have if they need to?
You mean, because despite treaties and agreements and understandings, they really each in the end work for their respective countries?
The VA Takes Back Millions In Benefits From Disabled Vets And Can’t Explain Why https://t.co/FJybrklGci pic.twitter.com/zx2AtOeMnx
— Task & Purpose (@TaskandPurpose) May 12, 2017
I am surprised there isn’t more reporting on this. Expect @SecShulkin will have something to say about it in our interview next month https://t.co/DcUXMYKRI9
— Adam Weinstein (@AdamWeinstein) May 12, 2017
re: #16 Blind Frog Belly White
That’s the line of succession, isn’t it? I was talking about the betting sites.
re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White
You mean, because despite treaties and agreements and understandings, they really each in the end work for their respective countries?
Yes. And have a handful of evidential flash/bangs to use in a pinch.
re: #24 Charles Johnson
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This is what’s dangerous about Trump - there’s NO WAY the FBI Director should agree to be loyal to the President. Yes, the President appoints the Director, and the Senate confirms, but he doesn’t WORK FOR the President.
re: #24 Charles Johnson
Charles Johnson ✔ @Green_Footballs
In a private dinner, Trump demanded a pledge of loyalty. Comey said no. How many Republicans have said “yes?” nyti.ms
9:00 PM - 11 May 2017
Remember he had Priebus sign a letter stating the RNC is backing him and treating him fairly if he continued to run as a Republican candidate for President. This is Trump. I bet he asked for all of the Republican Congress members to do something like a loyalty agreement. It sure would be interesting to know and who all signed if not all.
re: #18 Belafon
You might need to look at some of America’s history as well.
But this is unpresidented. You never had fox/hate radio before, and tens of millions of citizens who are willfully ignorant and stupid as a result. Even the fucking confederacy had a self-interested rationale: free slave labor. Now? The brainwashed, bugfuck-crazy GOPer base has only one consistent and transcendent value: durr hurr, piss off libtards!!!1!
And no, it gives me no satisfaction whatsoever to point this out. How were things allowed to degenerate to this point? :( America is too big to fail! Maybe you do need the rest of the world to bail you out…
Helluva week.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 12, 2017
re: #32 ObserverArt
Remember he had Priebus sign a letter stating the RNC is backing him and treating him fairly if he continued to run as a Republican candidate for President. This is Trump. I bet he asked for all of the Republican Congress members to do something like a loyalty agreement. It sure would be interesting to know and who all signed if not all.
Didn’t Hitler do a similar thing, the oath of loyalty is what kept him in power.
re: #11 goddamnedfrank
A chilling account of the dinner between Trump and Comey as told by several of Comey’s associates:
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From what we have seen of the Trump administration, Comey’s account is very believable. And the constant backtracking by the Trump administration just confirms it.
ere: #31 Blind Frog Belly White
This is what’s dangerous about Trump - there’s NO WAY the FBI Director should agree to be loyal to the President. Yes, the President appoints the Director, and the Senate confirms, but he doesn’t WORK FOR the President.
Even after Comey’s efforts to make him President, he still demands endless displays of loyalty because the pseudo-President himself is proud of owing nothing to any man. And until this week, Comey gave those assurances to him. I guess it might be interesting in an academic sort of way to find out which imposition of authority pushed him over the edge, but until practical results ensue this will have no real-world consequences.
re: #35 Teukka
Didn’t Hitler do a similar thing, the oath of loyalty is what kept him in power.
Yes the military had to swear a personal oath.
re: #40 HappyWarrior
Yes the military had to swear a personal oath.
Man, it was ages since I did 1933-45 era studies. I had that recollection too.
re: #33 Interesting Times
But this is unpresidented. You never had fox/hate radio before, and tens of millions of citizens who are willfully ignorant and stupid as a result. Even the fucking confederacy had a self-interested rationale: free slave labor. Now? The brainwashed, bugfuck-crazy GOPer base has only one consistent and transcendent value: durr hurr, piss off libtards!!!1!
And no, it gives me no satisfaction whatsoever to point this out. How were things allowed to degenerate to this point? :( America is too big to fail! Maybe you do need the rest of the world to bail you out…
We do. The only way I think this nation gets fixed is the way Germany was fixed in 1945, with someone else’s flag flying over Washington and someone else rewriting our laws. The citizens who cooperate with those occupiers will be forever resented, but our minority citizens are used to that, so what’s the downside?
re: #20 Decatur Deb
That was well before my time (as was IHNMAIMS but there was a game version, since released on Steam) But equivalent none the less.
re: #35 Teukka
Didn’t Hitler do a similar thing, the oath of loyalty is what kept him in power.
I would not doubt it, but I can’t say for sure as I haven’t studied Hitler to that degree. When I look into anything Hitler did, I get the shakes. Might be a good thing to look into again though…as so much has been compared to Trump.
99 percent of Hurricane Matthew aid requested by NC denied by Trump administration» https://t.co/9DAMFUm1WQ pic.twitter.com/XPO9aCj22G
— WBTV News (@WBTV_News) May 11, 2017
as i recall, Trump spent exactly 5 mins helping w/ supplies and then walked away; pic.twitter.com/2RTmH0PSEV
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) May 12, 2017
Pennsylvania just got turned down as well for disaster relief following the massive winter storm.
President Trump denies Pa.’s disaster relief request for March snowstorm
President Donald Trump has denied Pennsylvania’s request for federal disaster aid to help cover more than $7 million in costs associated with March’s snowstorm.
“This disaster declaration would have provided much-needed financial assistance to hard-hit communities in northeastern Pennsylvania,” Gov. Tom Wolf said Thursday, in a written statement.
The Trump administration did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the denial.
Last month, Trump approved aid for a winter storm that struck Utah in February. That storm cost Utah roughly $6 million, according to that state’s Division of Emergency Management.
In a letter regarding Pennsylvania’s request, FEMA Acting Administrator Robert J. Fenton wrote, “it has been determined that the damage from this event was not of such severity and magnitude as to be beyond the capabilities of the commonwealth and affected local governments.”
re: #44 ObserverArt
I would not doubt it, but I can’t say for sure as I haven’t studied Hitler to that degree. When I look into anything Hitler did, I get the shakes. Might be a good thing to look into again though…as so much has been compared to Trump.
The parallels between DJT and AH are common enough to give me chills.
2/4 media as it were - and yet very recently you gave one-on-one interviews with Time and NBC News. Shouldn’t you be talking to your …
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) May 12, 2017
4/4 Washington Post, are “fake news” then don’t give them the fucking time of day. Sack up, Donnie!
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) May 12, 2017
re: #40 HappyWarrior
Yes the military had to swear a personal oath.
Military in a way signs an oath in all countries. That is not to say Hitler took it further.
It would be interesting to know who else, like lawyers, politicians, police, etc. had to sign loyal to Hitler docs.
re: #44 ObserverArt
I would not doubt it, but I can’t say for sure as I haven’t studied Hitler to that degree. When I look into anything Hitler did, I get the shakes. Might be a good thing to look into again though…as so much has been compared to Trump.
Footage of the Wehrmacht formations taking the oath shows up periodically on the Hilter Channel.
Rhys howls at every siren. He’s also obsessed with this toy ball. Last night the two combined for this majestic moment. cc @darth @EmGusk pic.twitter.com/Ob5ZpOeEXc
— Sean (@sotweets) May 11, 2017
Something occurred to me, regarding Trump being blindsided by Dems and others who hated what Comey did WRT the election, but who object to his firing. Because one of Trump’s big motivators is revenge (like wining and dining Mitt Romney, destroying his dignity only to choose somebody else), he would naturally assume everyone else works that way, so he’d figure the Democrats would also be primarily motivated by revenge.
There’s a story that when Stalin died and Kruschev consolidated power, those who had opposed him hid out, expecting him to have them shot., and they were surprised when he didn’t.
He told them, “You measure people by your own yardstick.”
re: #48 ObserverArt
Military in a way signs an oath in all countries. That is not to say Hitler took it further.
It would be interesting to know who else, like lawyers, politicians, police, etc. had to sign loyal to Hitler docs.
They take an oath to the nation, in Nazi Germany, it was a personal oath to Hitler.
For every Trump action, there’s an opposite tweet reaction.
The Justice Department’s investigation into the national security leaks is not independent. This is a very grave situation.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 11, 2012
re: #48 ObserverArt
Military in a way signs an oath in all countries. That is not to say Hitler took it further.
It would be interesting to know who else, like lawyers, politicians, police, etc. had to sign loyal to Hitler docs.
The revised German oath included Adolf Hitler by name.
re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth
I am not surprised by Trump’s refusal to allow PA to have its requested money. The only way PA could get any money is if the entire state signed one of his loyalty pledges.
re: #55 PhillyPretzel
I am not surprised by Trump’s refusal to allow PA to have its requested money. The only way PA could get any money is if the entire state signed one of his loyalty pledges.
Maybe the PA govt refused to?
re: #49 Decatur Deb
Footage of the Wehrmacht formations taking the oath shows up periodically on the Hilter Channel.
Can’t say I have watched History in a long time. Are they back to showing Nazis because the last times I checked they were showing anything but history programming? I don’t wanna buy anything from a wingnut’s pawn shop, or pick some stuff out of an old barn.
re: #20 Decatur Deb
Upding for “Colossus: The Forbin Project” reference.
If it’s not too late, you should go back and add “Warning:” in front of the text to make it accurate.
re: #56 Teukka
The entire state did not go and vote for Trump. If I recall correctly Philly went to Hillary and not to Trump. That, as silly as it sounds, is why PA is not getting money.
So Lavrov and Kislyak left Trump’s office with nothing more than a list of people about to have heart attacks or slip in the tub.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) May 12, 2017
re: #53 teleskiguy
It has to be said; A smarter person would have deleted all their old tweets when starting a political career.
Trump was essentially asking James Comey to agree that he was above the law. Can you say “dictatorship?”
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 12, 2017
This is the fucker I want arrested first…if he flips, the whole Trump cabal goes down.
Kushner family cancels China investor presentation amid controversy https://t.co/8vd8VV2eb0 pic.twitter.com/dzBivO4xb6
— Fortune (@FortuneMagazine) May 11, 2017
re: #57 ObserverArt
Can’t say I have watched History in a long time. Are they back to showing Nazis because the last times I checked they were showing anything but history programming? I don’t wanna buy anything from a wingnut’s pawn shop, or pick some stuff out of an old barn.
They and one of the science channels have improved a lot in the last six months or so—some new looks at WWII (bioweapons, drugs) and revival of some of the good documentaries. It is sorely needed now.
“Like ,’Never again’ what?”
re: #62 Charles Johnson
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@Green_Footballs You know who else got people under him to swear loyalty to him personally?
— Teo (@Teukka72) May 12, 2017
re: #65 Teukka
You know who else got people under him to swear loyalty to him personally?
Kanye West?
re: #52 HappyWarrior
They take an oath to the nation, in Nazi Germany, it was a personal oath to Hitler.
They are the same thing to Hitler Trump. But I understand your point. You are looking at it in a sober light, Hitler Trump looks at it if as he was elected to more or less be the nation. Yeah, that much dangerous ego on the loose.
So Rachel is reporting Manafort never registered as a foreign agent like he was supposed to…
re: #59 PhillyPretzel
At least 600,000 Philly votes for Hillary; also strong in at least some of the suburbs.
re: #65 Teukka
@Teukka72 @Green_Footballs GODWIN!!! pic.twitter.com/5wCAmKJ3kP
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) May 12, 2017
re: #70 cat-tikvah
Yes. This is true. And yet most of PA fell for a con-man.
re: #54 Decatur Deb
The revised German oath included Adolf Hitler by name.
Right, after the “Operation Valkyrie” coup attempt in July 1944.
re: #71 teleskiguy
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— Teo (@Teukka72) May 12, 2017
re: #64 Decatur Deb
They and one of the science channels have improved a lot in the last six months or so—some new looks at WWII (bioweapons, drugs) and revival of some of the good documentaries. It is sorely needed now.
“Like ,’Never again’ what?”
Thanks for the tip. I will give ‘em another shot. I see they also have another more history history channel, but in my TV package it is a pay channel. I already pay too much.
re: #62 Charles Johnson
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Comey had been saying yes for a year; that he didn’t say yes fast enough last week cost him his job, but doesn’t make him a good guy; it just makes him a villain who fell out with a greater villain.
re: #75 Blind Frog Belly White
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What, the meat tenderizer guy?
No, the Schicklgruber asshole.
Tomorrow’s GOP Talking Point: Trump’s corruption not a big deal compared to an extinction level asteroid impact. https://t.co/u7NhsQLQbM
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) May 12, 2017
Do you feel it? The steady drip, drip, drip, of inevitability that this Administration is falling to pieces and will eventually be leaving the stage?
I do. These chumps were so woefully ill-prepared to govern that the WH staff is half full, the Cabinet offices and management teams are less than half full, and because their boss is out of control, they are unable to present policy points on a daily basis.
(“He tweeted what this morning? No! Well fuck me naked, get everyone in here to so we can plan how to respond to it before we send Spicy or Huckabucka to face the dogs!”)
Congressional staffers, both R and D are shocked at the incompetence and more than willing to speak to the media about it off the record. WH staffers, in some cases 30 at a shot, are venting to WaPo.
I’ve never seen this level of incompetence inside *any* organization, at *any* level, personally or at a distance, in my lifetime.
It’s truly shocking, and can’t be stopped soon enough to prevent permanent damage to the Republic.
re: #73 Brian J.
Right, after the “Operation Valkyrie” coup attempt in July 1944.
One of the redeeming History Channel episodes looked at a long string of attempts, some from before the outbreak of war. One was ready to go when the planned invasion of the Czechs was rendered unnecessary.
re: #81 austin_blue
I feel like we’ve already experienced a year of this shit, just since January.
The real headline: Trump Announces Creation of Committee of Racist Liars to Suppress Minority Voting. https://t.co/9kM0HEjKn9
— Steve Silberman (@stevesilberman) May 12, 2017
re: #81 austin_blue
Do you feel it? The steady drip, drip, drip, of inevitability that this Administration is falling to pieces and will eventually be leaving the stage?
I do. These chumps were so woefully ill-prepared to govern that the WH staff is half full, the Cabinet offices and management teams are less than half full, and because their boss is out of control, they are unable to present policy points on a daily basis.
(“He tweeted what this morning? No! Well fuck me naked, get everyone in here to so we can plan how to respond to it before we send Spicy or Huckabucka to face the dogs!”)
Congressional staffers, both R and D are shocked at the incompetence and more than willing to speak to the media about it off the record. WH staffers, in some cases 30 at a shot, are venting to WaPo.
I’ve never seen this level of incompetence inside *any* organization, at *any* level, personally or at a distance, in my lifetime.
It’s truly shocking, and can’t be stopped soon enough to prevent permanent damage to the Republic.
None of that matters unless Congress is willing to DO something about it, and the Republicans simply are not. They’d literally rather take health care away from people in the name of an insane tyrant than do anything else.
re: #83 Blind Frog Belly White
I feel like we’ve already experienced a year of this shit, just since January.
My hair is turning grey.
Oh wait…
re: #86 ObserverArt
My hair is turning grey.
Oh wait…
It’s been interesting to learn about how people handle adversity, that’s for sure.
re: #83 Blind Frog Belly White
I feel like we’ve already experienced a year of this shit, just since January.
The feeling you’re having, is what Fox, has burned into the psyche of its viewers, this idea that they are under siege and must remain eternally vigilant against the evil liberal horde. We have to watch that we don’t turn to their kind of hate.
re: #73 Brian J.
Right, after the “Operation Valkyrie” coup attempt in July 1944.
No, right from the beginning.
The term Hitler oath refers to the oaths of allegiance, or Reichswehreid, sworn by the officers and soldiers of the German Armed Forces and civil servants of Nazi Germany between the years 1934 and 1945. The oath pledged personal loyalty to Adolf Hitler in place of loyalty to the constitution of the country.
re: #69 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
Here’s Manafort’s statement. Read the WHOLE thing and read between the lines. Guess Manafort just flipped on @realDonaldTrump BIGLY pic.twitter.com/5hZKf9R2ka
— SeanSpicer’s Mic (@Spicerlies) May 12, 2017
He’s received formal guidance. Reading between the lines would suggest that he’s flipped on others and the guidance is to keep his trap shut on anything of substance other than what his lawyers have stated to him. He’s far more disciplined than anyone else in Trump’s orbit, which is why he likely is seeking the sweetheart deal, while Flynn and all the rest are going nuts.
I’ve placed a hold on nominee for Under Secretary of Treasury for Terrorism & Financial Intelligence until Trump Admin produces Russia docs pic.twitter.com/Tw8tEDhoXT
— Ron Wyden (@RonWyden) May 10, 2017
Wyden is on with Maddow right now talking about this.
re: #81 austin_blue
Do you feel it? The steady drip, drip, drip, of inevitability that this Administration is falling to pieces and will eventually be leaving the stage?
I do. .
Apologies, I really don’t. The drip drip is democracy and justice melting away. There is plenty of outrage among the critics. But so far not one meaningful charge against the campaign or Trump. No meaningful push back except from the courts. So far little real serious moves to create a special prosecutor. Or censure. Or investigations of the emoluments violations. The flagrant attempts to undermine the constitution.
I see almost no action among those that can actually bring him down.
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Seen at Costco. pic.twitter.com/t9XrQDo806
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) May 12, 2017
Charles, there’s an add that’s dragging me to the bottom of the page. It happened four times before I got halfway through the video.
re: #88 Belafon
The feeling you’re having, is what Fox, has burned into the psyche of its viewers, this idea that they are under siege and must remain eternally vigilant against the evil liberal horde. We have to watch that we don’t turn to their kind of hate.
Too late. I’m not a terribly forgiving person.
re: #92 Unshaken Defiance
And trump got his guy, who most certainly swore a loyalty oath to him, as head of the CIA.
re: #85 Brian J.
None of that matters unless Congress is willing to DO something about it, and the Republicans simply are not. They’d literally rather take health care away from people in the name of an insane tyrant than do anything else.
They have no choice, IMHO. This is policy and political mayhem.
🎵Charlie stole the handle, and the train…🎵
re: #94 darthstar
Great…now I need to put my phone on mute again…that toilet tweet is getting a bunch of action…people looking for something to focus on other than outrage, I suppose.
re: #98 austin_blue
They have no choice, IMHO. This is policy and political mayhem.
🎵Charlie stole the handle, and the train…🎵
Hogwash. They have a choice. Otherwise, the Resistance is going to get the message that there’s only one way to change things, and that’s by adopting the right-wingers’ message that the bullet box has replaced the ballot box.
re: #92 Unshaken Defiance
Apologies, I really don’t. The drip drip is democracy and justice melting away. There is plenty of outrage among the critics. But so far not one meaningful charge against the campaign or Trump. No meaningful push back except from the courts. So far little real serious moves to create a special prosecutor. Or censure. Or investigations of the emoluments violations. The flagrant attempts to undermine the constitution.
I see almost no action among those that can actually bring him down.
Have patience, grasshopper. The great wheel grinds slowly, but it grinds exceedingly fine.
re: #90 lawhawk
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He’s received formal guidance. Reading between the lines would suggest that he’s flipped on others and the guidance is to keep his trap shut on anything of substance other than what his lawyers have stated to him. He’s far more disciplined than anyone else in Trump’s orbit, which is why he likely is seeking the sweetheart deal, while Flynn and all the rest are going nuts.
Manafort’s statement is also a lie, his work was explicitly done “on behalf” of the Russian government. The fact that he was directly employed by an oligarch instead of the Russian government doesn’t do anything to change the fact that this was his sales pitch in getting the job and description of what the job was:
“We are now of the belief that this model can greatly benefit the Putin Government if employed at the correct levels with the appropriate commitment to success,” Manafort wrote in the 2005 memo to Deripaska. The effort, Manafort wrote, “will be offering a great service that can re-focus, both internally and externally, the policies of the Putin government.”
behalf
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in /on behalf of, as a representative of or a proxy for:
On behalf of my colleagues, I address you tonight.
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in /on someone’s behalf, in the interest or aid of (someone):
He interceded in my behalf.
Ergo, Paul Manafort worked, via a proxy employer, explicitly on behalf of Putin’s government.
re: #101 austin_blue
Have patience, grasshopper. The great wheel grinds slowly, but it grinds exceedingly fine.
Nonsense. It doesn’t result in grinding that actually removes malefactors if they don’t want to go, and if they have a political party willing to support them to the limit.
I love that in Trump’s own version of the Comey dinner, he still acted improperly https://t.co/OayVRGGp2h
— (((Michael Koplow))) (@mkoplow) May 12, 2017
This sudden Trump Comey dinner is one day after Sally Yates told the white house counsel Flynn had been interviewed by FBI. https://t.co/AngRdPXoKg
— Laura Rozen (@lrozen) May 12, 2017
re: #105 jaunte
As President, he’s immune from impropriety…or so he says.
From the CIA’s personality study of Fidel Castro. pic.twitter.com/eyjJ5WAHkf
— Yashar (@yashar) May 12, 2017
re: #108 teleskiguy
Given Castro’s tenure, that’s not so reassuring.
re: #100 Brian J.
Hogwash. They have a choice. Otherwise, the Resistance is going to get the message that there’s only one way to change things, and that’s by adopting the right-wingers’ message that the bullet box has replaced the ballot box.
Take a deep breath. I remember how long Nixon, in a noose, swung in the breeze before he eventually gave it up. Trump will be the same way, although he’ll fight harder because he is ultimately, a sociopath, with an inability to suck on his finger, stick it up int the air, and tell which way it is blowing.
I can pretty much guarantee you that every low and mid-level employee in the WH is updating their CVs and hoping against hope that they can get the fuck out of there before the bottom drops out. Their workload is brutal and they have absolutely no promise of any succor in the near term.
It’s a fucking joke up there right now.
(I have kin who work in Gubmint in and around DC. The stories I’m hearing —-well, as Joni Mitchell says “Laughing and crying, you know it’s the same release.”)
If you still want to say Hillary would have been just as bad as Trump AT THIS POINT, I have to ask: WTF is wrong with you?
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 12, 2017
I already own a pressure cooker and three different size slow cookers. Should I also buy the Instant Pot?
Does it come in a smaller size than 6 qt?
re: #111 Charles Johnson
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Speaking of those special snowflakes…
Bernie Sanders endorsement labeled ‘colossal mistake’ https://t.co/rD5tibP2N9 pic.twitter.com/YdM0R9D4GF
— Raw Story (@RawStory) May 11, 2017
It is amazing to contemplate what donald trump could have gotten away with with almost no genuine scrutiny if he wasnt so fucking stupid. Republicans were literally willing to accept and defend even the most transparent of lies if he stuck with it. It is too terrifying to contemplate what would have happened if Trump had the same level of pure malice and evil without being so ridiculously incompetent and surrounding himself with idiots and yes men.
re: #115 Schweppes7
Why are you speaking in the past tense. Trump is currently getting away with a whole lot of mess now. Republicans look the other way because they’re getting what they want from him.
re: #116 Patricia Kayden
Why are you speaking in the past tense. Trump is currently getting away with a whole lot of mess now. Republicans look the other way because they’re getting what they want from him.
That may come back to haunt them, causing them to be too close to the implosion once it finally happens.
re: #115 Schweppes7
It is amazing to contemplate what donald trump could have gotten away with with almost no genuine scrutiny if he wasnt so fucking stupid. Republicans were literally willing to accept and defend even the most transparent of lies if he stuck with it. It is too terrifying to contemplate what would have happened if Trump had the same level of pure malice and evil without being so ridiculously incompetent and surrounding himself with idiots and yes men.
With each passing day, it becomes more obvious that Trump is actually worse than we initially assumed. We assumed a level of deviousness that’s simply not on display. Instead we have a demented sociopath who can’t understand why people are criticizing him for doing what he wants because he’s the president and thinks that means he’s the CEO of America.
re: #116 Patricia Kayden
Why are you speaking in the past tense. Trump is currently getting away with a whole lot of mess now. Republicans look the other way because they’re getting what they want from him.
You are right. I meant that at least the media and public are being forced to provide some level of scrutiny due solely to his incompetence. I desperately hope that his gross incompetence and the fact that he LITERALLY confessed to obstruction of justice on national TV will be enough to lead to some real oversight.
re: #114 Targetpractice
Speaking of those special snowflakes…
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I don’t know the details but I saw someone post something today of him on FB accusing the Dems of making too big a deal about Russia and Trump. Honest question given Russia’s tendency to aid anyone who they think can destabilize threats to them, I know that sounds crazy but I really wonder what his end game is at times.
re: #114 Targetpractice
Bernie doing what he does best; losing elections for Democrats.
re: #109 jaunte
Given Castro’s tenure, that’s not so reassuring.
There is no comparison between Trump and Castro; Castro was actually competent at what he did and understood policy. He might lie about things but he would sound totally coherent when doing so. He was definitely not demented. I think what will ultimately save us from Trump — not from the Republicans — is that he actually doesn’t know or understand anything and that he appears to have some early form of dementia.
My mother, after developing Alzheimer’s, would fly into rages when any experience was not satisfactory — including being unhappy with the omelette served at her assisted living facility. Of course, in her case, she didn’t have access to nuclear weaponry to attack her opponents.
re: #113 The Vicious Babushka
I already own a pressure cooker and three different size slow cookers. Should I also buy the Instant Pot?
Does it come in a smaller size than 6 qt?
I own a slow cooker that I bought over 10 years ago in Steamboat. I’ve never owned pressure cookers though my mother has two of them (a big one and a little one).
I’ll never use the slow cooker again, might give it to the thrift shop. I love my Instant Pot!
It comes in a five quart model. Mine’s a six quart and I think it’s just right.
re: #121 Skip Intro
Bernie doing what he does best; losing elections for Democrats.
Getting
Republicans
Elected
Every
November
Donny Two-Scoops calling somebody a show-boat and a grand-stander is a bit rich. #lastword
— Billy Shelby (@BillShelby1) May 12, 2017
I’ve used my Instant Pot every night since I got it. Tonight I’m making red beans and rice with sausage.
re: #124 Targetpractice
Getting
Republicans
Elected
Every
November
But hey they’re principled, just ask them.//
re: #119 Schweppes7
You are right. I meant that at least the media and public are being forced to provide some level of scrutiny due solely to his incompetence. I desperately hope that his gross incompetence and the fact that he LITERALLY confessed to obstruction of justice on national TV will be enough to lead to some real oversight.
It’s up to us, as voters.
If we make enough noise and the Rs start to fear for their jobs, things can happen.
His base isn’t going to care but there are a lot of people out there besides just his base.
Of course, this requires work on our end with no guarantees. But giving up now doesn’t really feel like an option either, so…
re: #103 Brian J.
Nonsense. It doesn’t result in grinding that actually removes malefactors if they don’t want to go, and if they have a political party willing to support them to the limit.
Again, patience. It’s going to be OK. The R’s in the House are looking at 2018 and many of them are already pushing little turds into their underwear.
Regarding Mello, I haven’t seen AM since our disagreement two nights ago. I hope he’s alright and understands it’s a different of perspective I have with him not personal. I do still strongly think that the best way to turn certain areas lighter red, Purple, & eventually blue is through the ground up.
If @nytmike was any more well-sourced at the FBI, he’d be deputy White House press secretary https://t.co/LIaDlOvrZj
— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) May 12, 2017
Comey’s revenge is only beginning. https://t.co/WmXtb6sB4D
— Jonathan Swan (@jonathanvswan) May 12, 2017
One thing I learned at DOJ about Comey: he leaves a protective paper trail whenever he deems something inappropriate happened. Stay tuned. https://t.co/sENlYyhL5B
— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) May 12, 2017
re: #126 teleskiguy
I’ve used my Instant Pot every night since I got it. Tonight I’m making red beans and rice with sausage.
Dude, that’s a Monday meal. Washing day in NO.
Don’t forget the Tabasco.
re: #101 austin_blue
When a special prosecutor starts issuing warrants, or the Senate does something meaningful (Sunday Morning Talking need not apply) I can’t get excited.
re: #111 Charles Johnson
Charles Johnson ✔ @Green_Footballs
If you still want to say Hillary would have been just as bad as Trump AT THIS POINT, I have to ask: WTF is wrong with you?
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Will this be causing Bernie supporters to tweet bomb you tonight?
re: #114 Targetpractice
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I don’t think Bernie lost that race. I do find his using the Omaha mayoral race as part of his purity pony crusade just a week after snubbing Ossoff on the Georgia Sixth’s election day rather obnoxious though. Backing Ossoff could’ve produced tangible results and Bernie’s “he not a progressive” shit really hurt there. If Bernie really does want to help make the Democratic Party more inclusive he can start by throwing out his ridiculously strict economic litmus test and self appointed role as the one true arbiter of who is and who is not a “true progressive.”
I’m doing what I can on a local level. Just gotta push back.
re: #114 Targetpractice
Bernie starting to look like Father Jack from Father Ted.
OT: Yet to see A Father TED parody.
re: #114 Targetpractice
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Ooo…there IS the guy that is going to get bombed by the Berners, they will be full man on man defense.
re: #135 goddamnedfrank
I don’t think Bernie lost that race. I do find his using the Omaha mayoral race as part of his purity pony crusade just a week after snubbing Ossoff on the Georgia Sixth’s election day rather obnoxious though. Backing Ossoff could’ve produced tangible results and Bernie’s “he not a progressive” shit really hurt there. If Bernie really does want to help make the Democratic Party more inclusive he can start by throwing out his ridiculously strict economic litmus test and self appointed role as the one true arbiter of who is and who is not a “true progressive.”
What pisses me off is it’s okay for him to have litmus tests but it’s not okay for others as we saw with the concerns about Mello and abortion. And if he truly wants the Dems to be competitive everywhere, he should actually join or at the very least drop his purity bs.
re: #133 Unshaken Defiance
When a special prosecutor starts issuing warrants, or the Senate does something meaningful (Sunday Morning Talking need not apply) I can’t get excited.
First off, there is no special prosecutor. Second, before Comey’s removal, the Eastern Court in Virginia was already issuing subpoenas on the case.
Again, be patient. The legal game is afoot.
re: #138 ObserverArt
Ooo…there IS the guy that is going to get bombed by the Berners, they will be full man on man defense.
Criticizing Bernie may as well be criticizing Trump. The two are more similar than not at this point in how they conduct themselves as men.
re: #135 goddamnedfrank
well… if Bernie wants to make a difference, he can stop being an asshat to Democrats. Are all Democrats perfect, fuck no. Is Ossoff perfect, unlikely, is he a possible for the State of Georgia, fuck yes. He’s gotta stop thinking that every fucking place is Vermont.
re: #114 Targetpractice
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Sanders, though, defended his endorsement as something that needed to be done if the Democrats were going to achieve his wish of becoming a “50-state party.”
Fucking Bernie. This guy really needs to go.
I agree with a 50-State party, but Christ, Bernie in NE? Maybe the GOP can bring Steve King to campaign in San Francisco on some Republican’s behalf.
There’s nothing like not having a clue about the constituency in a given locale. SMDH
TBH, I’m wary of telling people I’m not a Sanders fan because I know how dismissive people are to people who don’t see Sanders as a savior and I feel bad because through my local campaign work, I have met many people especially college aged kids who were inspired by him and whose hearts are definitely in the right place but Sanders rubs me the wrong way. It’s not ideological, it’s that I think he’s not an inclusive leader.
re: #143 MsJ
Fucking Bernie. This guy really needs to go.
I agree with a 50-State party, but Christ, Bernie in NE? Maybe the GOP can bring Steve King to campaign in San Francisco on some Republican’s behalf.
There’s nothing like not having a clue about the constituency in a given locale. SMDH
That’s what I tried saying two nights ago. Nebraska did have that one seat that went for Obama and that one Dem congressman but it’s a red af state and the DNC dies not have unlimited resources at its disposal.
i must go, my planet needs me pic.twitter.com/uYS4riDOMU
— Cates Holderness (@catesish) May 11, 2017
re: #144 teleskiguy
Tabasco? Pft! Crystal all the way.
Crystal is good juice, but the year that Tabasco spends in oak casks makes all the difference.
Crystal is raw and brutal. Tabasco is fine wine.
re: #116 Patricia Kayden
Why are you speaking in the past tense. Trump is currently getting away with a whole lot of mess now. Republicans look the other way because they’re getting what they want from him.
Well, he is having trouble with healthcare…and needs the Senate which seems to have knobbly knees and will be reluctant with all of the investigating…politically a bit too hard to pass legislation right now. And that is holding up his tax policy too. Kinda ground to a halt right now. Now the Dem Senators are refusing any committee work if they do not get the level of investigation they want. More halting of Trump agenda.
So to me the race is on…can the Democrats along with assistance from The Trump Gang themselves, put Trump in such a state he either gets impeached or is rendered dead/useless as a politician before the Republicans can get what they want.
It’s political tug of war right now. It’s going to take some time to see who has the strength to get their way.
re: #118 Targetpractice
With each passing day, it becomes more obvious that Trump is actually worse than we initially assumed. We assumed a level of deviousness that’s simply not on display. Instead we have a demented sociopath who can’t understand why people are criticizing him for doing what he wants because he’s the president and thinks that means he’s the CEO of America.
I don’t know, trump is pretty much living up to what I expected of him. He was a walking, talking 4chan troll during the campaign. Who honestly expected him to be any different.
The only thing I’m surprised at is the extent that he’s stealing tax dollars and profiting off his job. Silly, quaint little me…I thought that was illegal and those fiscal cons wouldn’t abide. Silly, quaint little me.
re: #142 piratedan
well… if Bernie wants to make a difference, he can stop being an asshat to Democrats. Are all Democrats perfect, fuck no. Is Ossoff perfect, unlikely, is he a possible for the State of Georgia, fuck yes. He’s gotta stop thinking that every fucking place is Vermont.
TBH Vermont isn’t exactly wonderful either. I’ve read some stories about how black motorists are treated there and Bernie’s own rep with the VT NAACP was pretty poor as he never reached out to them but hey black people should vote for him because of him having been a Freedom Rider which is commendable of course but still.
re: #148 austin_blue
Crystal is good juice, but the year that Tabasco spends in oak casks makes all the difference.
Crystal is raw and brutal. Tabasco is fine wine.
There you go. I prefer raw and brutal (whiskey) as opposed to fine wine when it comes to liquor. I guess the same goes for my hot sauce. 😉
re: #128 klys (maker of Silmarils)
It’s up to us, as voters.
If we make enough noise and the Rs start to fear for their jobs, things can happen.
His base isn’t going to care but there are a lot of people out there besides just his base.
Of course, this requires work on our end with no guarantees. But giving up now doesn’t really feel like an option either, so…
I fear that it isn’t up to you any more, though. The combined effects of gerrymandering and voter suppression have made it nearly impossible for Republicans to be out of power in any meaningful numbers and for any meaningful length of time. Only low turnout among their voters would have an impact, and the control of FOX and other far right media over the Republican voter is absolute and total.
For all the dysfunction in the current climate, there is no real panic or worry among Republicans. They know they can put out the most transparent of lies, or worse yet, baldly state their own treason and desire to harm Americans, and FOX will instantly instruct their base that this is good and right. The rest of the US media will dutifully present it as a valid argument and point of view and debate it for a bit before letting it go, further normalising any malfeasance. All the negative press that has been out over the past few days, all the hammering away and exposure of Republican rot, would go away in a weekend if Trump were to simply stop tweeting and speaking for a couple of days. With nothing new to deal with, Cult media and the rest of the US media will come up with a narrative that normalises the situation, and the status quo will continue.
I don’t think there is a way for Republicans in power to meaningfully fear for their jobs. Even if Democrats temporarily take over a branch of government, the cult influence on the American populace as a whole will be largely untouched.
re: #120 HappyWarrior
I don’t know the details but I saw someone post something today of him on FB accusing the Dems of making too big a deal about Russia and Trump. Honest question given Russia’s tendency to aid anyone who they think can destabilize threats to them, I know that sounds crazy but I really wonder what his end game is at times.
I put Bernie in the Jill Stein camp. Not a clue in the world where his loyalties lie. Apparently beyond Bernie (meaning himself) there are none; he’s his only loyalty.
re: #150 MsJ
4chan trolls grow up though, and in process learn something about themselves. Trump? Not a snowflakes chance in Junior Management.
How to investigate Trump without allowing the GOP to undermine it. Here you go. All wrapped up, with a bow on it. pic.twitter.com/c1iCOcrDk0
— Open Culture (@openculture) May 12, 2017
The States Rights folks would freak out.
I see it is again time to bug out. Later. Resist.
re: #157 ObserverArt
I see it is again time to bug out. Later. Resist.
It’s getting very repetitive, isn’t it?
re: #152 teleskiguy
There you go. I prefer raw and brutal (whiskey) as opposed to fine wine when it comes to liquor. I guess the same goes for my hot sauce. 😉
Perhaps I ought to try some of this stuff.
re: #154 MsJ
I put Bernie in the Jill Stein camp. Not a clue in the world where his loyalties lie. Apparently beyond Bernie (meaning himself) there are none; he’s his only loyalty.
There was a time where I’d say Bernie was on ours albeit stubborn as fuck but I don’t know. A lot of aspects of the man really remind me of Trump and Cruz, not coincidentally the two GOPers i disliked most in the primary.
re: #154 MsJ
I put Bernie in the Jill Stein camp. Not a clue in the world where his loyalties lie. Apparently beyond Bernie (meaning himself) there are none; he’s his only loyalty.
He is in a lot of ways Trump’s mirror image. The politics are inverted left to right but the basic structure is the same.
re: #161 goddamnedfrank
He is in a lot of ways Trump’s mirror image. The politics are inverted left to right but the basic structure is the same.
There’s some Cruz in him too IMO. It was very easy for me to see as Bernie went on in the primary why he had so few Congressional endorsements despite being there since 1991.
re: #135 goddamnedfrank
I don’t think Bernie lost that race. I do find his using the Omaha mayoral race as part of his purity pony crusade just a week after snubbing Ossoff on the Georgia Sixth’s election day rather obnoxious though. Backing Ossoff could’ve produced tangible results and Bernie’s “he not a progressive” shit really hurt there. If Bernie really does want to help make the Democratic Party more inclusive he can start by throwing out his ridiculously strict economic litmus test and self appointed role as the one true arbiter of who is and who is not a “true progressive.”
I have to disagree. Bernie would have fucked things up for Ossoff. It would have sent more GOPers out to vote against the new England liberal. A socialist!
In Georgia?
I can’t see any upside to Bernie being involved there.
Wow
@Will_Bunch This is exactly what they did to Cox’s office during the Saturday Night Massacre.
— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) May 12, 2017
re: #159 thedopefishlives
Perhaps I ought to try some of this stuff.
Louisiana’s Pure Crystal Hot Sauce
I buy the stuff by the case ‘cause grocery stores around here don’t carry it, even after my insistence for years.
I routinely ask dinner companions if I’m under investigation.
— Harold Itzkowitz (@HaroldItz) May 12, 2017
I can’t say I know how these things are but, to run in a Political parties Primary or what-not, should they not be part of said party as a member? I feel like I’m sating the obvious here.
re: #128 klys (maker of Silmarils)
It’s up to us, as voters.
If we make enough noise and the Rs start to fear for their jobs, things can happen.
His base isn’t going to care but there are a lot of people out there besides just his base.
Of course, this requires work on our end with no guarantees. But giving up now doesn’t really feel like an option either, so…
And the noise level in the media about this seems to be a lot higher than it was on Tuesday.
I think a lot of people have started paying attention this week. Firing Comey was a massive miscalculation on the White House’s part. They actually believed that people of both parties would love them for this. And they’ve made it progressively worse since then.
We have to keep the pressure on, because as they become more and more distracted by this they’ll be more apt to compound their mistakes even further. There’s no getting in front of this story, they can only react at this point.
re: #163 MsJ
I have to disagree. Bernie would have fucked things up for Ossoff. It would have sent more GOPers out to vote against the new England liberal. A socialist!
In Georgia?
I can’t see any upside to Bernie being involved there.
I mean the least he could’ve done is not talk shit about the man on election day.
Also could’ve lent his name to a fundraising letter, or emailed his followers in the district that they should vote for Ossoff as a way of fighting Trump.
re: #165 teleskiguy
Louisiana’s Pure Crystal Hot Sauce
I buy the stuff by the case ‘cause grocery stores around here don’t carry it, even after my insistence for years.
If you’re into hot sauce, then you might try the following for a shrimp cocktail sauce. It comes with a cautionary warning from the restaurant that serves it.
re: #168 makeitstop
And the noise level in the media about this seems to be a lot higher than it was on Tuesday.
I think a lot of people have started paying attention this week. Firing Comey was a massive miscalculation on the White House’s part. They actually believed that people of both parties would love them for this. And they’ve made it progressively worse since then.
We have to keep the pressure on, because as they become more and more distracted by this they’ll be more apt to compound their mistakes even further. There’s no getting in front of this story, they can only react at this point.
The thing a lot of us forget sometimes is that we are here because we are political junkies and the stuff that seems blatantly obvious to us is glossed over by 95% of the population.
But when that group wakes up, the politicians do start to pay attention.
FBI agents change their Facebook profile pages to pictures of James Comey, a gesture usually reserved for slain c… https://t.co/qaMnPjeE7J
— K9insky (@ntmyprez) May 12, 2017
Trumpists are at war with the intelligence community, the military, the FBI, the Democrats, people making less than half a million a year… have I left anyone out?
re: #167 Apocalypse
I can’t say I know how these things but, to run in a Political parties Primary or what-not, should they not be part of said party as a member? I feel like I’m sating the obvious here.
I think they should require it. You are running to represent that party after all.
re: #146 HappyWarrior
That’s what I tried saying two nights ago. Nebraska did have that one seat that went for Obama and that one Dem congressman but it’s a red af state and the DNC dies not have unlimited resources at its disposal.
The higher problem is the apparent lack of understanding that Democrats need more Manchins and Ben Nelsons. I hated Jane Hamsher for that. ActBlue doesn’t help either. Does it make me happy that we need blue dogs? No. But you can’t run liberals in deep red places. You have to make them deep purple first. Then you can go to blue.
re: #169 goddamnedfrank
I mean the least he could’ve done is not talk shit about the man on election day.
Also could’ve lent his name to a fundraising letter, or emailed his followers in the district that they should vote for Ossoff as a way of fighting Trump.
How he basically portrayed Ossoff, a man who wasn’t even in Kindergarten when Sanders first went to Washington as some kind of sinister insider really pissed me off.
re: #174 MsJ
The higher problem is the apparent lack of understanding that Democrats need more Manchins and Ben Nelsons. I hated Jane Hamsher for that. ActBlue doesn’t help either. Does it make me happy that we need blue dogs? No. But you can’t run liberals in deep red places. You have to make them deep purple first. Then you can go to blue.
Do we want a far left or do we want a national party? We can’t have both.
From Teleski’s “cate holderness” TL also this:
Owner pretends to faint to see dog’s reaction:
飼い主がいきなり倒れた時の反応 pic.twitter.com/ec6JKNbHpd
— するめ (@amiyaki673) September 13, 2015
re: #172 jaunte
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Trumpists are at war with the intelligence community, the military, the FBI, the Democrats, people making less than half a million a year… have I left anyone out?
Reality.
re: #153 Renaissance_Man
Collectively, I’ll agree. But every one of those Republicans wants to keep THEIR jobs. Turning it blue even for a cycle means they lose that plush government salary plus primo benefits. And the uncertainty that they’ll ever get them back.
That right there is leverage.
The “base” is 30% of nitwits. That’s 70% of Republicans left, many of whom are not happy with trump and the GOP. I don’t think it’s only dems showing up at town halls.
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re: #155 Apocalypse
4chan trolls grow up though, and in process learn something about themselves. Trump? Not a snowflakes chance in Junior Management.
4chan trolls are kids, so yeah, they’ll grow up. Trump had been an asshole all his life. Those spots are not ever going to turn into stripes. Not ever.
re: #169 goddamnedfrank
I mean the least he could’ve done is not talk shit about the man on election day.
Also could’ve lent his name to a fundraising letter, or emailed his followers in the district that they should vote for Ossoff as a way of fighting Trump.
Agreed. But Bernie is a raging asshole. He will never do right by dems. He wants to burn the party down. I despise him. Truly so.
re: #184 MsJ
Agreed. But Bernie is a raging asshole. He will never do right by dems. He wants to burn the party down. I despise him. Truly so.
He’s in love with his newfound celebrity. I see he has a “debate” with Kasich coming up. I know his constituents still adore him but I’d find the act tiring.
re: #178 Barefoot Grin
From Teleski’s “cate holderness” TL also this:
Owner pretends to faint to see dog’s reaction:
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LMAO! That’s not supposed to happen. They’re supposed to stand by you!
re: #185 HappyWarrior
He’s in love with his newfound celebrity. I see he has a “debate” with Kasich coming up.
What?!? Why the fuck is he debating the governor of Ohio? Doesn’t he have to be a fuckin’ Senator from Vermont? What a fuckin’ wanker.
Four Muslim women ‘punched in the face’ in Islamophobic attacks near inner Sydney university. https://t.co/KgBAwDZdfx @rachelolding
Maria Claudia Gimenez Wilson, a 39-year-old journalism student from Paraguay, is charged with assaulting the four women, aged 18-23, as they walked along busy roads near UTS in Ultimo on Wednesday afternoon.
Ms Wilson, whose Facebook profile is littered with far right-wing and anti-Islamic material, interrupted proceedings to say that she was not unwell.
“The only thing I did was to take a bull cut [sic] to a Muslim lady,” she said. “I don’t see any problem with that.”
What the fuck, she’s from Paraguay? Has Islamophobia reached its apex in South America already?
re: #187 teleskiguy
What?!? Why the fuck is he debating the governor of Ohio? Doesn’t he have to be a fuckin’ Senator from Vermont? What a fuckin’ wanker.
Same could be asked of Kasich too.
google.com
Just what 2017 needed: the NYT Public Editor encouraging climate-change denying billionaires to sue for libel more https://t.co/GRjuaQorbA
— Kelsey D. Atherton (@AthertonKD) May 12, 2017
re: #188 electrotek
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What the fuck, she’s from Paraguay? Has Islamophobia reached its apex in South America already?
She’s a bigot, she happens to be from Paraguay.
re: #189 HappyWarrior
Same could be asked of Kasich too.
google.com
Yup. Stupid political grandstanding at this time in our history is displaying shameless narcissism.
re: #191 HappyWarrior
She’s a bigot, she happens to be from Paraguay.
And Paraguay was once run by an ex-Nazi who was a staunch ally of the U.S.
So close that Alfred Stroessner offered to send Paraguayan troops to Vietnam to aid the U.S. in its war against Communism.
re: #184 MsJ
Agreed. But Bernie is a raging asshole. He will never do right by dems. He wants to burn the party down. I despise him. Truly so.
I don’t see Bernie as an asshole. I see him as a deluded old fool stuck in the 60s with dreams of being a guru. He wants to be seen as the Knower of All, follow me all ye Truth seeking white college students… Seriously, he’s right out of the hippie handbook.
In reality he’s the Nowhere Man.
re: #194 electrotek
And Paraguay was once run by an ex-Nazi who was a staunch ally of the U.S.
So close that Alfred Stroessner offered to send Paraguayan troops to Vietnam to aid the U.S. in its war against Communism.
I’m aware of Paraguay’s history. I’m merely stating that I don’t think her nationality has to do with what she did. She’s a hateful person obviously and would be regardless of her place of birth imo.
re: #156 jaunte
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The States Rights folks would freak out.
Scneiderman is already running an investigation. He got Preet Bharara’s case notes when Bharara found out he was being fired.
I’m hoping he seizes all Trump Organization properties in New York when he makes his move.
re: #197 HappyWarrior
I’m aware of Paraguay’s history. I’m merely stating that I don’t think her nationality has to do with what she did. She’s a hateful person obviously and would be regardless of her place of birth imo.
I don’t disagree with you at all on that.
re: #196 allegro
I don’t see Bernie as an asshole. I see him as a deluded old fool stuck in the 60s with dreams of being a guru. He wants to be seen as the Knower of All, follow me all ye Truth seeking white college students… Seriously, he’s right out of the hippie handbook.
In reality he’s the Nowhere Man.
Personally I find it funny that two candidates who got the most love from college kids are Ron Paul and Sanders, both whom imo are stuck in the past.
re: #195 electrotek
As an Australian, I’ve yet to hear such a term. It could be a local term or just gibberish.
re: #201 Apocalypse
As an Australian, I’ve yet to hear such a term. It could be a local term or just gibberish.
Are you in Australia right now? Far out, man!
re: #201 Apocalypse
As an Australian, I’ve yet to hear such a term. It could be a local term or just gibberish.
I take it you’ve never hung out in Punchbowl or Lakemba then.
West Virginia Supreme Court gives green light to anti-LGBT violence.
slate.com
re: #172 jaunte
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Trumpists are at war with the intelligence community, the military, the FBI, the Democrats, people making less than half a million a year… have I left anyone out?
Non-whites, non-Christians, women.
Hannity tonight…..look at the bottom of the screenshot: “According to former US Attorney Rudy Giuliani” pic.twitter.com/yhZgsKoIFl
— Yashar (@yashar) May 12, 2017
SAD
re: #209 Apocalypse
I’ve never left Oz.
I’ve never claimed any other state other than Colorado as my primary residence.
re: #209 Apocalypse
I’ve never left Oz.
I’ve always wanted to visit OZ. It’d be a long flight but it’d be a neat experience.
re: #196 allegro
I don’t see Bernie as an asshole. I see him as a deluded old fool stuck in the 60s with dreams of being a guru. He wants to be seen as the Knower of All, follow me all ye Truth seeking white college students… Seriously, he’s right out of the hippie handbook.
In reality he’s the Nowhere Man.
Please forgive me if I cannot forgive him for what he did last year. While I’m not dismissing your assessment, the guy is all talk, no action. I find a guru who does nothing about what he’s supposedly so passionate about an asshole. And worse, if he’s a guru, he’s leading a cult.
Wisconsin OathKeeper charged with threatening the Alabama National Guard.https://t.co/4fjTz4XfiK pic.twitter.com/v8PJF0LWfY
— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) May 12, 2017
From his Facebook page: pic.twitter.com/UokXII2eoz
— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) May 12, 2017
Rhetorical question but has Hannity ever criticized Trump once? I mean even Gingrich has.
re: #207 teleskiguy
The Internet, man!
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Damn, I feel the same way! I’ve been consistently revolted by Trump, now he is starting to scare me. Hang on!
re: #214 MsJ
Please forgive me if I cannot forgive him for what he did last year. While I’m not dismissing your assessment, the guy is all talk, no action. I find a guru who does nothing about what he’s supposedly so passionate about an asshole. And worse, if he’s a guru, he’s leading a cult.
Exactly!
What I meant by his being an asshole or not… I don’t think the guy means harm to anyone, in fact I think he really means well. I think he’s just too deluded by his fantasy to know what that means.
Alas, no Instant Pots in the local markets, so I haven’t jumped on that band wagon yet.
But I now have an Anova precision cooker (with bluetooth, but not wireless) to mess with.
re: #216 HappyWarrior
Rhetorical question but has Hannity ever criticized Trump once?
Is the Pope Muslim? Mt. Rainier is not really a volcano, is it? Are there huge jagged 5000 meter peaks on the coastal plain? Snow isn’t white, is it?
re: #215 teleskiguy
He seems stable, lets sell him some guns…
Sample posts from the Oath Keepers website: pic.twitter.com/m9pB6mJ9cE
— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) May 12, 2017
Interactive breakdown of New York City dog names
(186 doggos in NYC named Scout.)
re: #221 teleskiguy
Is the Pope Muslim? Mt. Rainier is not really a volcano, is it? Are there huge jagged 5000 meter peaks on the coastal plain? Snow isn’t white, is it?
Ahem I did preface this with rhetorical question. Seriously though between him and Jeff Lord, lots of asskissing there.
re: #224 HappyWarrior
Ahem I did preface this with rhetorical question.
Dude, “Snow isn’t white, is it?” is totally a rhetorical question.
re: #164 goddamnedfrank
Wow
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The only questions left for Comey are who gets him and how much pain he suffers before the end. A traitor to America, and now a traitor to his new regime.
Tonight in the state-run media pic.twitter.com/IgeoHLlKNl
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) May 12, 2017
re: #220 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus
I considered the more expensive wireless system, but decided I didn’t want Russia monitoring how I prepared my eggs.
re: #227 teleskiguy
Hannity tonight…..look at the bottom of the screenshot: “According to former US Attorney Rudy Giuliani” pic.twitter.com/yhZgsKoIFl
— Yashar (@yashar) May 12, 2017
re: #229 FormerDirtDart
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I like how he’s just former us attorney Giuliani and not someone who just last night stayed in a Trump hotel and could well be considered to replace Comey. FNC wants to be the American RT.
NEW: Trump now imperils democracy. A plea to the world’s Intel agencies: If you HAVE Trump material, reveal it pic.twitter.com/E0KbP8TUul
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) May 12, 2017
Yeah let’s talk to Pam Bondi who possibly got bribed by Trump. She’s a great moral arbiter!
re: #228 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus
I considered the more expensive wireless system, but decided I didn’t want Russia monitoring how I prepared my eggs.
That reminds me, I’m going to boil some eggs in my Instant Pot tomorrow for some egg salad and some HB eggs for random snacks. Haven’t tried it yet but all the shit I’m reading says the egg shell just falls right off. I’m excite.
re: #233 prairiefire
And on Earth there are Quaint little villages, here and there.
.@SarahHuckabee says she’s spoken with ‘countless’ FBI agents bashing Comey
— Glenn Thrush (@GlennThrush) May 11, 2017
When Really Special Agent John Miller called in he had effusive praise for the brilliant @realDonaldTrump & YUGE loathing “Clueless” Comey. https://t.co/uZsmK3Z45b
— Col. Morris Davis (@ColMorrisDavis) May 12, 2017
re: #237 bratwurst
Speaking of Hannity…I never thought he’d go more homoerotic than this:
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Not that there’s anything wrong with that but Mrs. Lumpy should be worried.
re: #241 FormerDirtDart
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You know, I hated the way Comey handled Clinton but this is absolute garbage.
re: #237 bratwurst
I see heart disease creeping up on him!
So I posted the story about the Paraguayan girl attacking hijabis on my FB, and lo and behold, someone had to post this:
Him: Not to defend this psycho but why don’t you share all of the stories of Muslim men assaulting women?
Me: Stop deflecting.
Him: Be fair and balanced…
Me: You’ve known me long enough to know that I am balanced. No excuses.
Him: So share a story about the Muslim men who think women can be raped and act like animals.
Not sure how to respond to that. Any takers?
re: #239 teleskiguy
I really want to see if I can pull off onsen tamago . A friend of mine has just discovered proper ramen, and it’s gotten me thinking about making some myself, complete with soft-boiled egg accompaniment.
Still looking for an Instant Pot, though. Will eventually resort to Amazon, but I like buying in local retailers when possible. And I’ve spread the information disease good news to my sister, who is also curious.
re: #245 electrotek
So I posted the story about the Paraguayan girl attacking hijabis on my FB, and lo and behold, someone had to post this:
Him: Not to defend this psycho but why don’t you share all of the stories of Muslim men assaulting women?
Me: Stop deflecting.
Him: Be fair and balanced…
Me: You’ve known me long enough to know that I am balanced. No excuses.
Him: So share a story about the Muslim men who think women can be raped and act like animals.Not sure how to respond to that. Any takers?
I’d probably point out that you’re sharing stories about people acting on bigotry, not misogyny, which isn’t limited to only Muslims.
Except I wouldn’t actually get involved in a political discussion on FB because it’s more about scoring points and less about an actual dialogue with the other person. (You might be interested in one but I get the feeling your fellow person in the discussion is not.)
re: #246 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus
I really want to see if I can pull off onsen tamago . A friend of mine has just discovered proper ramen, and it’s gotten me thinking about making some myself, complete with soft-boiled egg accompaniment.
Still looking for an Instant Pot, though. Will eventually resort to Amazon, but I like buying in local retailers in possible. And I’ve spread the
information diseasegoods news to my sister, who is also curious.
What “Tampopo” first!
I had forgotten this passage from Rosenstein’s confirmation hearing a moth ago which raises contemporary themes: pic.twitter.com/MKqoAaoJvw
— John Dickerson (@jdickerson) May 11, 2017
re: #245 electrotek
So I posted the story about the Paraguayan girl attacking hijabis on my FB, and lo and behold, someone had to post this:
Him: Not to defend this psycho but why don’t you share all of the stories of Muslim men assaulting women?
Me: Stop deflecting.
Him: Be fair and balanced…
Me: You’ve known me long enough to know that I am balanced. No excuses.
Him: So share a story about the Muslim men who think women can be raped and act like animals.Not sure how to respond to that. Any takers?
“Go fuck yourself”
But I’d take that advice with a grain of salt. :P
re: #249 Barefoot Grin
What “Tampopo” first!
I enjoyed that movie except for the egg scene, ironically enough.
re: #245 electrotek
So I posted the story about the Paraguayan girl attacking hijabis on my FB, and lo and behold, someone had to post this:
Him: Not to defend this psycho but why don’t you share all of the stories of Muslim men assaulting women?
Me: Stop deflecting.
Him: Be fair and balanced…
Me: You’ve known me long enough to know that I am balanced. No excuses.
Him: So share a story about the Muslim men who think women can be raped and act like animals.Not sure how to respond to that. Any takers?
Don’t answer his racism, just block the fool.
re: #251 SteelPH
“Go fuck yourself”
But I’d take that advice with a grain of salt. :P
I would but he has cancer so I’m treating this with kiddie gloves, reluctantly.
I’ve known him for 14 years, which makes it difficult for me to go off on him as well.
I’m too nice to my friends on FB, compared to random wingnuts and Muslim extremists on Twitter.
re: #237 bratwurst
Speaking of Hannity…I never thought he’d go more homoerotic than this:
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That’s gotta be a photoshop. Right?
re: #245 electrotek
So I posted the story about the Paraguayan girl attacking hijabis on my FB, and lo and behold, someone had to post this:
Him: Not to defend this psycho but why don’t you share all of the stories of Muslim men assaulting women?
Me: Stop deflecting.
Him: Be fair and balanced…
Me: You’ve known me long enough to know that I am balanced. No excuses.
Him: So share a story about the Muslim men who think women can be raped and act like animals.Not sure how to respond to that. Any takers?
I think the best response is something along the lines of:
Assault is assault, regardless of the perpetrator or the victim. Acknowledging one instance does not mean ignoring others. Every single one of them should be held to account.
Alternatively, you can point out that any time someone starts with “not to defend…” the next thing they say is a defense. It’s like:
Final option: my wall, my posts, if they bother you, there’s the mute button.
re: #252 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I enjoyed that movie except for the egg scene, ironically enough.
I showed it in class in the early 1990s as a rookie high school Japanese language teacher. I ran from my seat for the remote to FF because I had forgotten about that.
re: #244 prairiefire
I see heart disease creeping up on him!
Seriously! The 5 years between those pics have not been kind to him…and his current coloring is even more unhealthy than that of his man crush.
re: #245 electrotek
You could ask him why he focuses on just that 23% of the world’s men, when rape is a global problem.
re: #220 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus
Alas, no Instant Pots in the local markets, so I haven’t jumped on that band wagon yet.
But I now have an Anova precision cooker (with bluetooth, but not wireless) to mess with.
You can use ChefSteps recipes with the Anova even though they pimp their own machine. YouTube them. They are great!
re: #259 jaunte
You could ask him why he focuses on just that 23% of the world’s men, when rape is a global problem.
Moot point. He deleted his comment and apologized in private. To his credit, he’s good with keeping comments to himself, so I’m willing to accept his apology. We all do stupid shit in knee-jerk reactions, myself included.
So I just let it be. I don’t think he’s a bad guy at all, because in spite of everything I still believe people are inherently good at heart (per Anne Frank).
Trump is ordered by a federal judge to turn over Giuliani memo in travel ban suit https://t.co/OihUd0pfOQ pic.twitter.com/Jd4HgLhpBb
— Bloomberg Politics (@bpolitics) May 12, 2017
“…The Trump Administration was ordered by a federal judge to disclose a memo drafted under the guidance of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani that allegedly served as an outline to make the president’s travel ban look like it wasn’t aimed at Muslims.
……………..
U.S. District Judge Victoria Roberts in Detroit on Thursday directed the president to produce the document by May 19.”
re: #245 electrotek
So I posted the story about the Paraguayan girl attacking hijabis on my FB, and lo and behold, someone had to post this:
Him: Not to defend this psycho but why don’t you share all of the stories of Muslim men assaulting women?
Me: Stop deflecting.
Him: Be fair and balanced…
Me: You’ve known me long enough to know that I am balanced. No excuses.
Him: So share a story about the Muslim men who think women can be raped and act like animals.Not sure how to respond to that. Any takers?
One example of wrong-doing does not excuse another. Is there a reason you are so intent on changing the subject?
re: #245 electrotek
If it were me, I’d respond with an *unfriend*. I have no more tolerance for that kind of BS anymore.
re: #264 GlutenFreeJesus
If it were me, I’d respond with an *unfriend*. I have no more tolerance for that kind of BS anymore.
I don’t have the heart to delete people for mere disagreement. I still believe in more dialogue.
If they want to delete me, they’re more than welcome to. I wouldn’t shed a tear.
I rather be above them than to their level, personally.
re: #259 jaunte
Yeah, it’s bad, but check out Trump’s coloring in the Russian photo yesterday. He’s flushed and speckled yellow and red. Not good.
re: #245 electrotek
So I posted the story about the Paraguayan girl attacking hijabis on my FB, and lo and behold, someone had to post this:
Him: Not to defend this psycho but why don’t you share all of the stories of Muslim men assaulting women?
Me: Stop deflecting.
Him: Be fair and balanced…
Me: You’ve known me long enough to know that I am balanced. No excuses.
Him: So share a story about the Muslim men who think women can be raped and act like animals.Not sure how to respond to that. Any takers?
Show him a bunch of white guys behaving badly. Then some black guys, Muslims, Christians. It isn’t like there aren’t bad guys everywhere.
You really should read this and then share it with everyone. https://t.co/Zd74NBbLX6 pic.twitter.com/WBThyJYfkg
— Karoli (@Karoli) May 12, 2017
re: #265 electrotek
My bad for posting before seeing what happened. Respectable move on his part.
re: #245 electrotek
So I posted the story about the Paraguayan girl attacking hijabis on my FB, and lo and behold, someone had to post this:
Him: Not to defend this psycho but why don’t you share all of the stories of Muslim men assaulting women?
Me: Stop deflecting.
Him: Be fair and balanced…
Me: You’ve known me long enough to know that I am balanced. No excuses.
Him: So share a story about the Muslim men who think women can be raped and act like animals.Not sure how to respond to that. Any takers?
Projection some?
Sounds like the attitudes of Christian RWNJs to me.
re: #145 HappyWarrior
TBH, I’m wary of telling people I’m not a Sanders fan because I know how dismissive people are to people who don’t see Sanders as a savior and I feel bad because through my local campaign work, I have met many people especially college aged kids who were inspired by him and whose hearts are definitely in the right place but Sanders rubs me the wrong way. It’s not ideological, it’s that I think he’s not an inclusive leader.
Saw a performance of Evita tonight—
Forgive my intrusion but fine as those sentiments sound
Little has changed for us peasants down here on the ground
I hate to sound childish, ungrateful, I don’t like to moan
But do you now represent anyone’s cause but your own?
re: #151 HappyWarrior
TBH Vermont isn’t exactly wonderful either. I’ve read some stories about how black motorists are treated there and Bernie’s own rep with the VT NAACP was pretty poor as he never reached out to them but hey black people should vote for him because of him having been a Freedom Rider which is commendable of course but still.
Bernie was NOT a Freedom Rider.
re: #174 MsJ
The higher problem is the apparent lack of understanding that Democrats need more Manchins and Ben Nelsons. I hated Jane Hamsher for that. ActBlue doesn’t help either. Does it make me happy that we need blue dogs? No. But you can’t run liberals in deep red places. You have to make them deep purple first. Then you can go to blue.
The only Dem we have in our district is a former Dem who ran as a Republican (he’s still a Dem in spirit, but that’s the only way he could get elected.) I even voted in the Rep primary to make sure he was the candidate. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
re: #5 goddamnedfrank
I feel like what Olbermann is advocating here could be deeply counter-productive. That it would only destabilize the US further and open the opposition to Trump to charges of rank hypocrisy. I understand where he’s coming from but I feel like if we’re going to crawl out the other side of this in any kind of viable condition as a nation state we’ll need to do it on our own.
It seems to me that it’s unreasonable for Trump to have Russia on his side, while the US has to limp along on its lonesome.
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