Chris Thile With an All-Star Cast of Singers and Players: “Comey’s Waltz”

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Chris Thile (with Sarah Jarosz, Aoife O’Donovan, Rich Dworsky, Chris Eldridge, Alan Hampton, James McAlister, and Gabe Witcher) sings the Song of the Week for our May 13, 2017 broadcast, “‘Comey’s Waltz”

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1
The Major  May 14, 2017 • 7:30:03pm

Reposted from downstairs…..

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Barefoot Grin  May 14, 2017 • 7:38:07pm

I called home about an hour ago to wish mom Happy Mom’s Day. She’s 84. “What are you guys doing?” I ask. “Your dad found the Miss USA show [he’s 91], so we’re watching that.”

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The Spite House  May 14, 2017 • 7:39:01pm
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jaunte  May 14, 2017 • 7:39:50pm

I’m gonna have me a Brawndo and tequila before bed.

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jaunte  May 14, 2017 • 7:42:49pm
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Jay C  May 14, 2017 • 7:43:06pm

re: #4 jaunte

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I’m gonna have me a Brawndo and tequila before bed.

Well, to be fair, there IS a cluster of dots grouped on the northern half of the Korean peninsula: though that may be by accident as much as design….

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jaunte  May 14, 2017 • 7:43:25pm

re: #6 Jay C

Show-offs.

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The Spite House  May 14, 2017 • 7:44:06pm

Asia-Pacific coastal elites…

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Shiplord Kirel  May 14, 2017 • 7:44:16pm

re: #3 The Spite House

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Several seem to have confused it with Northern Australia or the Northern Mariana Islands.

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jaunte  May 14, 2017 • 7:45:50pm

The Greater Gobi/Caspian/New Guinea Co-Prosperity Sphere

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Barefoot Grin  May 14, 2017 • 7:47:13pm

re: #7 jaunte

Show-offs.

Not as good as an Erector Set….

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Major Tom  May 14, 2017 • 7:48:54pm

re: #4 jaunte

Any chance this is the Internet’s latest boaty mcboatface?

Maybe?

Sigh.

Yeah Prob not.

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Barefoot Grin  May 14, 2017 • 7:49:11pm

re: #11 Barefoot Grin

Not as good as an Erector Set….

Throw a towel over it….

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 7:49:31pm

re: #8 The Spite House

Asia-Pacific coastal elites…

Is it running down the US education system, or a stunning incuriosity?

/yes

I could probably identify every nation on Earth on a political map. Must be because I am an Inland Coast elite. /s

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jaunte  May 14, 2017 • 7:52:10pm

Gameshow concept: Rightwingers Identify The ‘Stans

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makeitstop  May 14, 2017 • 7:53:52pm

re: #15 jaunte

Gameshow concept: Rightwingers Identify The ‘Stans

Name that ‘Stan!

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calochortus  May 14, 2017 • 7:56:43pm

Totally OT, but I was thinking earlier about marriage and other stuff. (For those of you who haven’t been following along, it’s my anniversary and I made dinner for Mr. C. rather than going out.)
I am familiar with more than one marriage where some people think one person or the other has a better deal than their spouse. That they give more than they get. And yet, I’m virtually certain that they are happy marriages for both partners. Which brought me to the general question of whether people want “more” or “enough” in their lives. Does “he does more for her than she does for him” (or vice versa) matter if each person gets what they need? Probably for some it does and for some it doesn’t.

I’d imagine people who get “enough” are happier than those who need “more” because I would think it is easier to recognize enough than to know when you have reached a sufficient amount of more. This might also translate to one’s level of satisfaction with life in general because for most people, even well off people, there are always many people out there with more than you have. If you have enough it is good. If you need more, then one way of feeling better is to hope others have less.

This has been your moment of random introspection…

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FormerDirtDart  May 14, 2017 • 8:00:13pm

Miss USA 2017 Miss District of Columbia Kára McCullough: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

“… During the question portion of the pageant, McCullough was asked if affordable healthcare is a right or privilege. She said that it is a privilege and that healthcare should only go to those with jobs. McCullough then added that it should be one of the country’s aims to create more jobs so that people can have access to healthcare. …”

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jaunte  May 14, 2017 • 8:00:38pm

re: #17 calochortus

If you have enough it is good. If you need more, then one way of feeling better is to hope others have less.

I think you have something there. It’s not enough for some to win, they also have to hear wailing and lamentations from those who didn’t.

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Major Tom  May 14, 2017 • 8:01:13pm

re: #16 makeitstop

Harder than it sounds…

Central Asia
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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 8:01:26pm

re: #4 jaunte

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I’m gonna have me a Brawndo and tequila before bed.

From that New York Times article:

What drives these differences? Simple partisanship is one possibility. On average, Republicans - and Republican men in particular - were more likely to correctly locate North Korea than Democratic men. And Republicans were more likely to be in favor of almost all the diplomatic solutions posed by the researchers. (Women tended to find North Korea at similar rates, regardless of party.)

It seems strange to me that Democratic men would fail harder at this than Republican men, or that Republicans are more likely to favour diplomatic solutions (considering the sabre-rattling going on with Murica-yeah! Airstrikes! Invasions!)

I was under the impression that Democrats value education more than Republicans (see Betsy DeVos) - I can identify every nation on Earth on an unmarked political map with my high school education.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 8:02:27pm

re: #17 calochortus

Both my wife and I think the other gives more in our marriage. We’ve even argued (playfully) about it.

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jaunte  May 14, 2017 • 8:03:15pm

Everyone forgets Tajikistan.

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teleskiguy  May 14, 2017 • 8:03:15pm

re: #21 Anymouse

I can identify every nation on Earth on an unmarked political map with my high school education.

You were also in the Navy and traveled the world extensively. Don’t discount that!

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Joe Bacon  May 14, 2017 • 8:03:20pm

re: #14 Anymouse

Is it running down the US education system, or a stunning incuriosity?

/yes

I could probably identify every nation on Earth on a political map. Must be because I am an Inland Coast elite. /s

Point the blame where it belongs—Texas Textbooks!

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calochortus  May 14, 2017 • 8:03:52pm
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Joe Bacon  May 14, 2017 • 8:05:32pm

re: #18 FormerDirtDart

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Miss USA 2017 Miss District of Columbia Kára McCullough: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

OK so I see she won the “All USA Summarize Ayn Rand Competition”.

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calochortus  May 14, 2017 • 8:05:39pm

re: #22 Anymouse

Both my wife and I think the other gives more in our marriage. We’ve even argued (playfully) about it.

Supposedly a happy marriage is one in which each person expects to give 60%-or alternatively, no one keeps score.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 8:07:41pm

re: #23 jaunte

Everyone forgets Tajikistan.

That’s because it’s either North Korea or San Marino.

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De Kolta Chair  May 14, 2017 • 8:07:46pm
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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 8:09:43pm

re: #26 calochortus

WTF?

A scientist at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission - I wasn’t aware that brains was part of the Miss USA pageant.

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FormerDirtDart  May 14, 2017 • 8:10:24pm

re: #27 Joe Bacon

OK so I see she won the “All USA Summarize Ayn Rand Competition”.

I had just tweeted to someone that they should rename it “Miss Ayn Rand”

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teleskiguy  May 14, 2017 • 8:10:30pm

I see downstairs that there are a couple of new Instant Pot cultists devotees.

On Backwoods_Sleuth’s cue, I made pot roast tonight. Fork tender in a little over an hour. Good stuff.

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calochortus  May 14, 2017 • 8:10:42pm

re: #31 Anymouse

A scientist at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission - I wasn’t aware that brains was part of the Miss USA pageant.

She made up for that with her answer on healthcare.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 8:12:15pm
During the question portion of the pageant, McCullough was asked if affordable healthcare is a right or privilege. She said that it is a privilege and that healthcare should only go to those with jobs. McCullough then added that it should be one of the country’s aims to create more jobs so that people can have access to healthcare.

Good to know she’d throw all us disabled vets under the bus… .

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jaunte  May 14, 2017 • 8:13:12pm
healthcare should only go to those with jobs

I EXPECT YOU TO BE ON TIME TOMORROW, GRANNY

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Joe Bacon  May 14, 2017 • 8:14:14pm

re: #35 Anymouse

Good to know she’d throw all us disabled vets under the bus… .

Just another day of life in Ayn As In Mine Rand’s America, folks!

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Joe Bacon  May 14, 2017 • 8:15:43pm

re: #34 calochortus

She made up for that with her answer on healthcare.

Ah, but now Miss USA is now entered in the All England Summarize Proust Competition!

OOPS! NSFW!

Monty Python - Summarize Proust Competition Uncensored

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De Kolta Chair  May 14, 2017 • 8:18:38pm
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Joe Bacon  May 14, 2017 • 8:24:23pm

It’s really OJ’s Polygraph Test!

He’s Guilty!
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jaunte  May 14, 2017 • 8:26:14pm

re: #40 Joe Bacon

What’s that little squiggle supposed to be, hunkered down under the first teepee?

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teleskiguy  May 14, 2017 • 8:26:33pm

re: #40 Joe Bacon

That is seriously a tortured mess of a signature. Doctors’ signatures are more coherent.

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FormerDirtDart  May 14, 2017 • 8:27:02pm
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jaunte  May 14, 2017 • 8:27:13pm

4 up-n-down zigzags = the o in Donald

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JordanRules  May 14, 2017 • 8:31:06pm

re: #40 Joe Bacon

He does not read and apparently writing is a bit of a challenge for him. Yikes.

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Joe Bacon  May 14, 2017 • 8:31:47pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

That is seriously a tortured mess of a signature. Doctors’ signatures are more coherent.

If I had squiggled that in 3rd grade, I would have flunked penmanship!

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De Kolta Chair  May 14, 2017 • 8:31:54pm

Pat Byrnes

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goddamnedfrank  May 14, 2017 • 8:32:54pm
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De Kolta Chair  May 14, 2017 • 8:38:48pm

The next week, with Trump in the Middle East and amidst the flames of demonstrations in Europe, is going to be super cray cray. Can’t wait.

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wheat-dogg  May 14, 2017 • 8:40:42pm

re: #6 Jay C

From downstairs, in case you missed it.

Wheeler Dealers Lotus Elan S09E05

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calochortus  May 14, 2017 • 8:42:40pm

I’m out for the evening.
Hasta, mañana, Lizards.

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De Kolta Chair  May 14, 2017 • 8:42:59pm

Well don’t that beat all?

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bratwurst  May 14, 2017 • 8:44:10pm

In other news, Charlie Brown is furious that Lucy pulled the football away again.

In this awful situation we find our country in, at least an octogenarian casino magnate with a longstanding fantasy about dropping an “atomic bomb” on Iran is not being allowed to completely run our mideast policy.

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The Major  May 14, 2017 • 8:47:18pm

re: #53 bratwurst

In this awful situation we find our country in, at least an octogenarian casino magnate with a longstanding fantasy about dropping an “atomic bomb” on Iran is not being allowed to completely run our mideast policy.

“Yes!!!” for Data (ST Generations)

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De Kolta Chair  May 14, 2017 • 8:49:49pm

re: #53 bratwurst

In other news, Charlie Brown is furious that Lucy pulled the football away again.

Adelson and Steve Bannon have a lot in common — total assholes and political exiles.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 8:53:50pm

re: #55 De Kolta Chair

Adelson and Steve Bannon have a lot in common — total assholes and political exiles.

Well, I’m not sure about Steve Bannon, since he’s still in the White House. Not hearing from him is likely more dangerous than hearing from him.

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The Major  May 14, 2017 • 8:55:22pm

re: #56 Anymouse

Well, I’m not sure about Steve Bannon, since he’s still in the White House. Not hearing from him is likely more dangerous than hearing from him.

Indeed. (I tried to Insert a Youtube Video of Teal’c from Stargate SG-1 saying his classic “Indeed” line, but it wasn’t working out so well. Oh well, can’t win ‘em all…)

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 8:56:50pm

Ducked out for a couple minutes to lower the village flags to half-mast for Peace Officer’s Memorial Day. (It’s a couple hours early, but I’m likely to be in bed at midnight.)

They put the liberal commie socialist in charge of that in my town. /s

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De Kolta Chair  May 14, 2017 • 8:58:59pm

re: #56 Anymouse

Well, I’m not sure about Steve Bannon, since he’s still in the White House. Not hearing from him is likely more dangerous than hearing from him.

Rumor is that Bannon is about to be swept away in the tide of the Big Sweep. The low tide.

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Major Tom  May 14, 2017 • 9:02:27pm

re: #58 Anymouse

Sometimes I like to pretend that you are not, in fact, talking about an actual village of people, but a large meticulously created model of a town that you go and perform various duties for throughout the day, just feet from your computer.

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Interesting Times  May 14, 2017 • 9:05:07pm

re: #59 De Kolta Chair

Rumor is that Bannon is about to be swept away in the tide of the Big Sweep. The low tide.

I’m not sure it’s a good idea to get one’s hopes up…

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 9:11:43pm

re: #60 Major Tom

Sometimes I like to pretend that you are not, in fact, talking about an actual village of people, but a large meticulously created model of a town that you go and perform various duties for throughout the day, just feet from your computer.

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LOL.

I just answered an E-mail from the US Chamber of Commerce, asking me to update our information there (they have a village board chairwoman who last served nearly twenty years ago and died last year). I gave them the correct information.

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De Kolta Chair  May 14, 2017 • 9:13:13pm

re: #61 Interesting Times

I’m not sure it’s a good idea to get one’s hopes up…

They are a chummy bunch, that’s for sure. (Cue the wayback machine…)

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Joe Bacon  May 14, 2017 • 9:15:16pm

I just realized I have to go vote again on Tuesday. That’s the 4th time I’ve voted so far this year. First was a Special Election for a State Rep who vacated, Second was the LA City Primary. Third was a Special Primary to replace now Attorney General Becerra, Tuesday is a City Election with the sole item on the ballot an initiative to modify the way Los Angeles disciplines police officers and coming up on June 6th got to vote yet again for the Congressional runoff.

I always make sure I vote especially in local elections since so few turn out for them. I have to do my part to keep the religious kooks out of office!

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KGxvi  May 14, 2017 • 9:16:38pm

re: #3 The Spite House

Which dot is Trumps?

Also, for some reason, I keep imagining Stephen Colbert (the character) covering Donald Trump, and I keep picturing him referring to him as the The Donald, like he used to do with the The USA Today.

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KGxvi  May 14, 2017 • 9:17:34pm

re: #13 Barefoot Grin

Throw a towel over it….

Didn’t realize we were working blue tonight.

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Puss Power  May 14, 2017 • 9:17:41pm

re: #64 Joe Bacon

I just realized I have to go vote again on Tuesday. That’s the 4th time I’ve voted so far this year. First was a Special Election for a State Rep who vacated, Second was the LA City Primary. Third was a Special Primary to replace now Attorney General Becerra, Tuesday is a City Election with the sole item on the ballot an initiative to modify the way Los Angeles disciplines police officers and coming up on June 6th got to vote yet again for the Congressional runoff.

I always make sure I vote especially in local elections since so few turn out for them. I have to do my part to keep the religious kooks out of office!

Me too. I’ve missed one election in my life — it was a special election to modify some language in the city charter, and I just forgot about it.

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De Kolta Chair  May 14, 2017 • 9:22:54pm

I’m knee-deep in Volker Ullrich’s superbly researched and written tome “Hilter; Ascent 1889-1939” (Alfred A. Knopf 2016), and was struck by this photograph:

Hitler posing for the cameras of Richard Wagner’s grandsons, Wieland and Wolfgang, 1931.

The banality of shitheads.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 9:28:23pm

re: #67 Puss Power

Me too. I’ve missed one election in my life — it was a special election to modify some language in the city charter, and I just forgot about it.

I didn’t vote when I was homeless, because I could not register without an address.

When I married, I could not vote in the 2008 election because I could not get my paperwork together to prove my citizenship in time to satisfy Oklahoma voting laws.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 14, 2017 • 9:28:46pm

Daughter put this on her FB page tonight:

If you watched Call the Midwife tonight, or if you didn’t, I invite you to learn about Frances Oldham Kelsey, an FDA reviewer in the 60s who is responsible for refusing approval of Thalidomide in the US, saving who knows how many families from the same struggles felt by too many of those in Europe. This is a woman who made an incredible contribution to science without knowing how incredible it would be. And it is an example of why we NEED regulation. Businesses do not protect us, they watch out for their bottom line. Don’t let anyone tell you our “economy” is more important than taking care of each other. My students felt this story very strongly when we talked about it a few months ago, and it was my pleasure to tell them that the next hero could be sitting in that school at that moment. Learning matters. Effective government matters.

Frances Oldham Kelsey

Frances Kathleen Oldham Kelsey, CM (July 24, 1914 - August 7, 2015) was a Canadian pharmacologist and physician. As a reviewer for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), she refused to authorize thalidomide for market because she had concerns about the drug’s safety. Her concerns proved to be justified when it was shown that thalidomide caused serious birth defects. Kelsey’s career intersected with the passage of laws strengthening FDA oversight of pharmaceuticals.

I remember the thalidomide scandal quite clearly, the ghastly pictures in Life Magazine and the incredible story of how this horror was kept out of the United States.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 9:37:20pm

re: #70 Shiplord Kirel

The FDA did its first big recall shortly after the agency was formed … they went after Massengill for a formulation of sulfanilamide as an elixir.

The problem wasn’t that sulfa was a bad drug (it is used today), or elixirs (alcohol preparations of medications are common).

It was that the drug was dissolved not in alcohol but in diethyline glycol (automotive antifreeze).

It was that raid on stocks sold to pharmacists and physicians that caused the government to move to regulate the safety and efficacy of medications.

en.wikipedia.org

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De Kolta Chair  May 14, 2017 • 9:37:54pm

re: #70 Shiplord Kirel

I remember the thalidomide scandal quite clearly, the ghastly pictures in Life Magazine and the incredible story of how this horror was kept out of the United States.

I well recall reading that issue and how upset folks at the time were by it. (I’m an Air Force brat, and anything to do with radiation, especially in deliverable bomb form, was always a big deal for us kids and adults on bases I grew up on. It practically drove at least one generation insane.)

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 9:47:27pm

re: #72 De Kolta Chair

I well recall reading that issue and how upset folks at the time were by it. (I’m an Air Force brat, and anything to do with radiation, especially in deliverable bomb form, was always a big deal for us kids and adults on bases I grew up on. Frankly, it practically drove at least one generation insane.)

I was at the tail-end of “duck and cover and kiss your ass good-bye” drills.

Said generation: Half are terrified of anything to do with radiation, and the other half can’t wait to pitch a bunch of nukes at the next nation that dares look at the USA cross-eyed.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 9:52:07pm

I’m guessing that the GOP nihilistic desire to weaken regulations across the board, we’ll soon see disasters with medication and equipment that could have been prevented by the FDA.

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goddamnedfrank  May 14, 2017 • 9:53:42pm

re: #70 Shiplord Kirel

Daughter put this on her FB page tonight:

Frances Oldham Kelsey

I remember the thalidomide scandal quite clearly, the ghastly pictures in Life Magazine and the incredible story of how this horror was kept out of the United States.

Interesting thing about thalidomide is it’s the classic example of how molecular chirality can drastically impact how a drug works. It was only the S enantiomer, aka the left handed version of the molecule that caused birth defects. Unfortunately the manufacturer didn’t know that at the time nor did they have the ability to selectively produce only the right handed version of the molecule.

Also, point of interest, S stands for Sinister, the Latin term for Left.

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goddamnedfrank  May 14, 2017 • 9:54:51pm

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

P.S. That comment was more directed generally since I’ve a hunch Shiplord Kirel already knows all that shit.

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De Kolta Chair  May 14, 2017 • 9:55:58pm

Lest I forget before nodding off, this from the police blotter of this week’s issue of the local rag, The Downtown Express:

Pervy Prep
Investigators are hunting the guy who robbed nearly $2,500 worth of bras from a Broadway lingerie store … An employee told police the crook was inside the retailer … at 4:15 pm, when he grabbed a whopping 60 bras and fled the store.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 14, 2017 • 10:02:03pm

re: #71 Anymouse

The FDA did its first big recall shortly after the agency was formed … they went after Massengill for a formulation of sulfanilamide as an elixir.

The problem wasn’t that sulfa was a bad drug (it is used today), or elixirs (alcohol preparations of medications are common).

It was that the drug was dissolved not in alcohol but in diethyline glycol (automotive antifreeze).

It was that raid on stocks sold to pharmacists and physicians that caused the government to move to regulate the safety and efficacy of medications.

en.wikipedia.org

Massengill’s chief chemist, one Harold Watkins, claimed not to have known that diethylene glycol was poisonous, despite considerable evidence in medical literature. He committed suicide while awaiting trial. Young Frances Kelsey of later thalidomide fame was involved in this case. Elixir sulfanilamide
There is a very extensive case history of the misuse of DEG, since it is a cheap and easily available counterfeit for glycerine in many formulations and has a sweetening effect.

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The Major  May 14, 2017 • 10:02:28pm

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teleskiguy  May 14, 2017 • 10:03:28pm

re: #77 De Kolta Chair

Bras are expensive.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 10:04:22pm

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

Interesting thing about thalidomide is its the classic example of how molecular chirality can drastically impact how a drug works. It was only the S enantiomer, aka the left handed version of the molecule that caused birth defects. Unfortunately the manufacturer didn’t know that at the time nor did they have the ability to selectively produce only the right handed version of the molecule.

Also, point of interest, S stands for Sinister, the Latin term for Left.

The FDA still permits the use of thalidomide in very restricted conditions. (Amongst the restrictions are women who may be pregnant, obviously.)

mayoclinic.org

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Shiplord Kirel  May 14, 2017 • 10:04:28pm

re: #76 goddamnedfrank

P.S. That comment was more directed generally since I’ve a hunch Shiplord Kirel already knows all that shit.

Actually I didn’t. My daughter, the bio-chemist did, however.

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Kragar  May 14, 2017 • 10:05:56pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 14, 2017 • 10:06:15pm

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

Trivial compared to the pharmacological importance of chirality, but I always like the example of enantiomers S-carvone and R-carvone: the former gives caraway its scent, the latter spearmint.

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goddamnedfrank  May 14, 2017 • 10:07:23pm

Basically unless you’re a partner in the business any non-compete clause your employer makes you sign is automatically null and void here.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 14, 2017 • 10:08:48pm

re: #72 De Kolta Chair

I well recall reading that issue and how upset folks at the time were by it. (I’m an Air Force brat, and anything to do with radiation, especially in deliverable bomb form, was always a big deal for us kids and adults on bases I grew up on. It practically drove at least one generation insane.)

In Germany, there was initially some effort to blame the thalidomide birth defects on nuclear testing.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 10:08:56pm

re: #78 Shiplord Kirel

Massengill’s chief chemist, one Harold Watkins, claimed not to have known that diethylene glycol was poisonous, despite considerable evidence in medical literature. He committed suicide while awaiting trial. Young Frances Kelsey of later thalidomide fame was involved in this case. Elixir sulfanilamide
There is a very extensive case history of the misuse of DEG, since it is a cheap and easily available counterfeit for glycerine in many formulations and has a sweetening effect.

From that Wikipedia article, it mentions adulterated wine from Austria being seized by ATF. Austria then got creative:

After recalling millions of wine bottles, the Austrian Government had no idea how to destroy the product. During September 1986, the Ministry of Public Works started testing a mixture of wine with salt to melt hazardous ice during winter. The primary results revealed that the mixture was more effective than using salt alone. The next year, an Austrian electric power plant (Oesterreichischen Draukraftwerke) in Carinthia announced that technicians developed a way to produce energy through burning 30 million liters of contaminated wine

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teleskiguy  May 14, 2017 • 10:09:34pm

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

Fuckin’ Jimmy Johns has NCCs.

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De Kolta Chair  May 14, 2017 • 10:10:48pm

re: #80 teleskiguy

Bras are expensive.

Tough titties! //

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 10:12:54pm

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

Interesting thing about thalidomide is it’s the classic example of how molecular chirality can drastically impact how a drug works. It was only the S enantiomer, aka the left handed version of the molecule that caused birth defects. Unfortunately the manufacturer didn’t know that at the time nor did they have the ability to selectively produce only the right handed version of the molecule.

Also, point of interest, S stands for Sinister, the Latin term for Left.

I wonder if that were done with Phenobarbital if I would quit falling asleep all the time. (Turn the molecule the other way round and it becomes a stimulant? An overdose instead of killing you causes you to live forever?) /dexter

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 10:19:58pm

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

The handedness of molecules is also the issue with prion diseases. (BSE, kuru, vCJD)

Since the pesky mad cow problem in Europe while I was there, I cannot donate blood or organs by law, in case I was exposed.

This is the specific reason that I argue with people who think organ donation should either be mandatory or opt-out: Many people do not know they have problems like mad cow exposure or potentially latent fatal diseases.

redcrossblood.org

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Shiplord Kirel  May 14, 2017 • 10:21:03pm

re: #90 Anymouse

I wonder if that were done with Phenobarbital if I would quit falling asleep all the time. (Turn the molecule the other way round and it becomes a stimulant? An overdose instead of killing you causes you to live forever?) /dexter

You could probably build an alternate health-care MLM on that idea.

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teleskiguy  May 14, 2017 • 10:21:11pm
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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 10:23:17pm

re: #92 Shiplord Kirel

You could probably build an alternate health-care MLM on that idea.

Regrettably, I have not had a “Grifter v1.0” graft implanted… .

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unproven innocence  May 14, 2017 • 10:24:21pm

re: #70 Shiplord Kirel

Daughter put this on her FB page tonight:

Frances Oldham Kelsey

I remember the thalidomide scandal quite clearly, the ghastly pictures in Life Magazine and the incredible story of how this horror was kept out of the United States.

I saw on hulu an excellent episode or two of a British series dealing with this subject: CALL THE MIDWIFE - The Real-Life Tragedy Behind Call the Midwife’s Heartbreaking Season 5 Premiere
Spoilers ahead about the episode that aired on Sunday in the U.S.

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BeachDem  May 14, 2017 • 10:35:47pm

re: #83 Kragar

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That’s our Nikki!

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 10:39:25pm

The Republican’s Guide to Presidential Behavior (Goes to the New York Times)

A very long list of things that Republican politicians now think is normal behaviour in a President. The Times invites you to add to the list.

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wheat-dogg  May 14, 2017 • 10:47:20pm

While Trump stumbles and bumbles around with American foreign policy, China is working its magic to become a world superpower.

Almost 30 state leaders put their support behind Xi Jinping’s new globalisation strategy

Draft communique of ‘Belt and Road’ summit endorses Xi Jinping’s grand plan to connect the world’s economies

In the communique, dated May 8, China said it welcomed South America’s participation in the initiative, the basis of which covers Asia, Africa and Europe. It made no mention of North America, although its welcome extended to “other regions”.

The draft also reaffirmed China and the participating countries’ commitment to open economy and inclusive trade, and said the Belt and Road countries were opposed to all forms of protectionism.

It also called on all parties that had ratified the Paris Agreement to fully implement the international pact aimed at curbing climate change.

Note the two subtle digs at Trumpism.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 10:54:01pm

Man takes down his GOP rep over reviving repealing the ACA. (3:37)

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sagehen  May 14, 2017 • 11:00:30pm

re: #73 Anymouse

I was at the tail-end of “duck and cover and kiss your ass good-bye” drills.

Said generation: Half are terrified of anything to do with radiation, and the other half can’t wait to pitch a bunch of nukes at the next nation that dares look at the USA cross-eyed.

I believe you’re my age.

My elementary school was full of smartasses, with smartass parents, and we sneered and snorted at the idea “duck and cover” would be worthwhile against nukes. But the teacher was smart enough to point out that yeah, probably true, so we should just pretend it’s an earthquake drill and do the exercise anyway, because the same reactions really truly would be useful then.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 11:02:14pm

re: #60 Major Tom

Sometimes I like to pretend that you are not, in fact, talking about an actual village of people, but a large meticulously created model of a town that you go and perform various duties for throughout the day, just feet from your computer.

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I’ve joked with my wife that if we are the last two survivors in town (assuming no one else is born here or moves here), we get to keep the money.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 11:03:38pm

re: #100 sagehen

I believe you’re my age.

Well, I don’t know what your age is (I’ll be fifty-seven at the end of the month - as of yet no white or grey hairs).

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sagehen  May 14, 2017 • 11:08:43pm

re: #102 Anymouse

Well, I don’t know what your age is (I’ll be fifty-seven at the end of the month - as of yet no white or grey hairs).

So you’re a few months older than me. Most of my hair is white or grey. But I still have my original teeth, my appendix and tonsils, and my blood pressure is in the range of good.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 11:16:26pm

re: #103 sagehen

So you’re a few months older than me. Most of my hair is white or grey. But I still have my original teeth, my appendix and tonsils, and my blood pressure is in the range of good.

My appendix was pulled when I was seventeen (I suffered recurrent appendicitis because it was actually in the wrong place in my body - I also had an emergency surgery when the scar burst open while I was at sea - ruined a good uniform with blood all over it in the chow hall). My tonsils went away when I was twelve.

BP is fine, though physicians constantly rag on my weight and body fat (both too low). Of course there’s the little problem with epilepsy.

I guarantee you if the GOP privatises the VA I’m a goner.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 11:21:42pm

The stupidity behind this tweet (captured as an image at Disqus) is amazing.

“I love the poorly educated” indeed.

Image: 7c59bc6ae8c410c9d44eb8d52bd85f234b1ad206e9003271b16a139e0a6c4dc1.jpg

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 11:22:54pm
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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 11:27:18pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 14, 2017 • 11:28:58pm

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

Interesting thing about thalidomide is it’s the classic example of how molecular chirality can drastically impact how a drug works. It was only the S enantiomer, aka the left handed version of the molecule that caused birth defects. Unfortunately the manufacturer didn’t know that at the time nor did they have the ability to selectively produce only the right handed version of the molecule.

Also, point of interest, S stands for Sinister, the Latin term for Left.

Turns out that it wouldn’t matter anyway. Your liver contains an enzyme which interconverts the enantiomers, so even giving one results in a racemic mixture in the body.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 11:30:24pm

re: #108 Blind Frog Belly White

Turns out that it wouldn’t matter anyway. Your liver contains an enzyme which interconverts the enantiomers, so even giving one results in a racemic mixture in the body.

Wonder that doesn’t work with vCJD then?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 14, 2017 • 11:33:06pm

re: #109 Anymouse

Wonder that doesn’t work with vCJD then?

Because that’s protein folding, not chirality.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 11:33:28pm

Today’s guinea pigs, both for Aminah and Mother’s Day:

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 14, 2017 • 11:34:08pm

re: #110 Blind Frog Belly White

IOW, the problem with talking about biochemistry by analogy is that things that can be analogized similarly may be very different phenomena.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 11:36:30pm

re: #110 Blind Frog Belly White

Because that’s protein folding, not chirality.

Okay. Not the same process. (goes back and looks up chirality again - new word for me that I didn’t look up when you first introduced it - understand now as reflection of atoms [usually around one or more carbon atoms] rather than folded proteins [prions]).

Thanks for introducing me to a new concept and a new word (at least to me)

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 11:41:56pm

Sometimes I’ll click on a Twitter hashtag in a language intelligible to me just to see what it means (by trying to puzzle out the drawings or photographs).

In this case, it would appear that this Japanese hashtag is about the ransomware going around the world (or perhaps computers in general), because a bunch of people have put up photos of their monitors with the lock screen on it:

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teleskiguy  May 14, 2017 • 11:43:43pm
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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 11:44:15pm

Wingnuts still don’t understand the difference between “attacking ideas” and “attacking persons” (much like religious assertions):

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 11:52:42pm

Man, that #MissUSA hashtag is filled with wingnuts and “pro-lifers” that think dying in the streets for lack of health insurance is a grand idea.

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teleskiguy  May 14, 2017 • 11:56:08pm

re: #117 Anymouse

Man, that #MissUSA hashtag is filled with wingnuts and “pro-lifers” that think dying in the streets for lack of health insurance is a grand idea.

It’s disgusting. Religious right folks have been thoroughly brainwashed to think that the more prosperous you are the more worthy you are to be a part of God’s kingdom.

Megachurches are evil.

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Anymouse  May 14, 2017 • 11:56:52pm

Wingnut Daily (WND) proposes Chuck Norris for FBI director.

I took one for the team so you didn’t have to.

www (dot) wnd (dot) com/2017/05/chuck-norris-for-fbi-director/
(replace the dots with full stops/periods if you really want to read this drivel, quoting part of the article below - there is an on-line poll if you think Chuck Norris should be FBI director if you want to troll it)

The rest of the article promotes Chuck Norris’s amazing water with health and restorative properties:

WASHINGTON - Superstar Chuck Norris wants everyone to know he’s not looking for a job, but …

If President Trump, whom he supported for president in 2016, wants him to replace James Comey as FBI director, he’s ready, willing and available.

While promoting his new bottled water in Utah this weekend, Norris said: “If someone has to clean it up, and it has to be me, I’ll take the job.”

What do YOU think? Should Trump consider Chuck Norris for FBI director? Sound off in the WND Poll!

Fans were keen on the idea of Norris taking over the FBI. One said, “We need to get him in to Washington! I think he would clean it up. I think he’s the man for the job.”

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teleskiguy  May 14, 2017 • 11:57:28pm
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teleskiguy  May 15, 2017 • 12:03:36am
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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 12:08:05am

re: #121 teleskiguy

Why should I subscribe to the New York Times when I can get all the fluffing of fascists and oligarchs from my regional paper?

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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 12:22:01am

This lady’s tweets read like Frankenstein after a massive stroke.

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2017 • 12:24:25am

Instagram

The Annapurnas come into view as the sun sets over Pokhara #travel #Nepal #wanderlustaroundtheworld @wanderlustar

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Shiplord Kirel  May 15, 2017 • 12:31:48am

Shakespeare saw it coming:

Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder’s fork, and blind-worm’s sting,
Lizard’s leg, and howlet’s wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 12:34:14am

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

This lady’s tweets read like Frankenstein after a massive stroke.

She ain’t the only one on Twitter … possibly even a bigger reason for me not to get an account there.

For example this tweet:

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 12:40:54am

Breakfast of champions:

Shrimp cup-o-noodles with siracha sauce.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 12:42:37am
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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 12:47:59am
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Single-handed sailor  May 15, 2017 • 12:49:42am

re: #128 Anymouse

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That reminds me. I should do some shrooms. It’s been too long.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 12:51:30am

re: #130 Single-handed sailor

That reminds me. I should do some shrooms. It’s been too long.

LOL. Never did shrooms. Not sure what that would do to me.

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2017 • 12:52:22am

re: #130 Single-handed sailor

That reminds me. I should do some shrooms. It’s been too long.

I’ve got a hit of acid that’s been sitting under my guitar amp handle for two years now.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 12:55:28am

LOL

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 12:57:25am

re: #132 teleskiguy

I’ve got a hit of acid that’s been sitting under my guitar amp handle for two years now.

And you wonder why your guitar has been tripping… .

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 12:59:22am
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sagehen  May 15, 2017 • 1:00:21am

John Oliver this week takes on dialysis clinics

Dialysis: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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sagehen  May 15, 2017 • 1:01:07am

re: #132 teleskiguy

I’ve got a hit of acid that’s been sitting under my guitar amp handle for two years now.

If the amp ever gets warm, that hit of acid is much-degraded. Sorry, but heat is bad for it.

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Kragar  May 15, 2017 • 1:13:35am
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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 1:16:18am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 1:44:08am

re: #6 Jay C

Well, to be fair, there IS a cluster of dots grouped on the northern half of the Korean peninsula: though that may be by accident as much as design….

Those are from Asian-Americans…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 1:52:42am

re: #138 Kragar

Reminder: Criticizing someones’ opinion is not a personal attack against the person.

Just read the comments section of any RW blog or news site and you will come to the opposite conclusion…

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 1:59:19am

re: #138 Kragar

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Probably should have put the MissUSA hashtag on that to remind the wingnuts there.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 2:28:10am

re: #16 makeitstop

Name that ‘Stan!

With host Herman “Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan” Cain!

Herman Cain on foreign policy

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 2:45:26am
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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 2:52:14am

re: #93 teleskiguy

“Our task is, quite simply, to keep alive the spirit of American democracy,” @FareedZakaria says of the press

Pretty fucking hypocritical from the guy who had on-air orgasms over Trump’s missile strike on Syria.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 3:09:44am

Live coverage (live blogging) of the worldwide ransomware attack. (Good thing my dial telephone won’t be affected, though the phone company might.)

Latest: Vladimir Putin blames the USA for the attack.
bbc.com

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freetoken  May 15, 2017 • 3:21:55am

Sheep are waking up… trying to figure out if they want to step out of the barn into the cold wind:

Sheep Pasture at Farm Sanctuary powered by EXPLORE.org

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 3:25:04am

There are two alternatives for clicking E-mail links to avoid downloading the malware:

a) Hover over the link to ensure it goes where it says it does. For example, Quick Thinking Child Saves Cat from Drowning (goes to the Huffington Post) is actually a Rickroll.

b) Spend an extra two seconds and type “Quick Thinking Child Saves Cat from Drowning” into a search engine such as Google or Dogpile. If the article actually exists, it will pop up.

The malware starts when you restart your computer. Anti-virus companies are working on scrubbing the malware. Don’t shut off your computer until you’ve had the chance to run a complete scan of your computer.

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wheat-dogg  May 15, 2017 • 4:27:56am

re: #148 Anymouse

There are two alternatives for clicking E-mail links to avoid downloading the malware:

a) Hover over the link to ensure it goes where it says it does. For example, Quick Thinking Child Saves Cat from Drowning (goes to the Huffington Post) is actually a Rickroll.

b) Spend an extra two seconds and type “Quick Thinking Child Saves Cat from Drowning” into a search engine such as Google or Dogpile. If the article actually exists, it will pop up.

The malware starts when you restart your computer. Anti-virus companies are working on scrubbing the malware. Don’t shut off your computer until you’ve had the chance to run a complete scan of your computer.

Best practice: don’t click email links, even if the sender is someone on your email list. When it doubt, use your mail client to check the source code of the email and verify (a) the sender’s email is correct and (b) the link shown is not obscuring another, more sinister link.

Yet another reason why I hate forwarded emails.

I use gmail almost exclusively, and Gmail does a great job weeding out bogus emails. Occasionally, a few slip through, like emails inviting me to some random event in a town I’ve never even visited much less lived in.

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Henny Penny  May 15, 2017 • 4:29:40am

I was updating my user name, and found that LGF now has two factor authentication! I highly value my LGF account and I can’t recommend using this feature enough.

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Romantic Heretic  May 15, 2017 • 4:37:37am

re: #1 Eric The Fruit Bat

Followed by my favourite scene.

Babylon 5: Vir gets what he wants

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 4:40:11am

re: #150 Henny Penny

I was updating my user name, and found that LGF now has two factor authentication! I highly value my LGF account and I can’t recommend using this feature enough.

I’m not sure how I could use two-factor authentication from my laptop.

While I value my LGF account, it is not important as my electric or gas bills, my bank account, &c. For those, I have no electronic accounts set up at all (I must do transactions on the telephone, by mail, or in person).

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Henny Penny  May 15, 2017 • 4:44:13am

re: #152 Anymouse

There are a lot of assholes in this world that have nothing better to do in their meaningless lives and would love to hack your account and post Ayn Rand quotes.

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Henny Penny  May 15, 2017 • 4:45:13am

Donald Trump was going to name a bridge after Chuck Norris, but no one, and I mean no one, crosses Chuck Norris.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 4:51:37am

re: #153 Henny Penny

There are a lot of assholes in this world that have nothing better to do in their meaningless lives and would love to hack your account and post Ayn Rand quotes.

LOL. I get my bank statement with:

The question isn’t who is going to let me; it’s who is going to stop me.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2017 • 4:54:54am

A right wing Jewish site is starting to wake up and smell the chulent

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Teukka  May 15, 2017 • 4:54:59am

re: #148 Anymouse

Did you pay attention to a) and b)? Impeachment charges filed.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 5:00:05am

re: #157 Teukka

Did you pay attention to a) and b)? Impeachment charges filed.

No, because I hovered over the link and saw it goes to YouTube.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 5:01:10am

LOL, that’s a really weird video.

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Teukka  May 15, 2017 • 5:01:56am

re: #159 Anymouse

LOL, that’s a really weird video.

Wait until you see the spinoffs of it.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 5:02:50am

re: #160 Teukka

Wait until you see the spinoffs of it.

I looked at the list of videos in the right-hand bar.

That said, it still has nothing on the original weird video “Hamsterdance.”

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I cannot.  May 15, 2017 • 5:05:49am
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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 5:10:15am

re: #162 I cannot.

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Then they started killing the disabled, the elderly, epileptics, &c, because healthcare was a privilege Nazi Germany didn’t want to expend Reichsmarks on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 5:10:45am

“Healthcare as a right” is something that is covered by the Constitution under “promoting the general welfare”.

It is in the national interest to have a health population and work force, and the best (and ultimately least expensive) way to guarantee that is through universal healthcare.

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jeffreyw  May 15, 2017 • 5:12:01am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2017 • 5:17:39am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Healthcare as a right” is something that is covered by the Constitution under “promoting the general welfare”.

It is in the national interest to have a health population and work force, and the best (and ultimately least expensive) way to guarantee that is through universal healthcare.

Ultimately this issue forces us into a definition of a “right”, complete with a trace to their origins. Ayn Rand, Comrade Mao, and Edward Bellamy use different dictionaries.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 5:21:04am

Re-creation of the original Hampsterdance page from 1997:
originalhampster.ytmnd.com

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Healthcare as a right” is something that is covered by the Constitution under “promoting the general welfare”.

It is in the national interest to have a health population and work force, and the best (and ultimately least expensive) way to guarantee that is through universal healthcare.

Wingnuts tend to skim past that “general welfare” part to the II Amendment.

That said, the Preamble of the Constitution is a statement of aims. No court has ever cited the Preamble in litigation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 5:24:03am

Just as the wingnuts see “individual freedom” as the freedom of individuals and families with limited assets and incomes to negotiate one-on-one for terms of coverage with multi-million-dollar insurance corporations whose CEO’s earn more in a year than most of us do in a lifetime…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 5:27:41am

re: #167 Anymouse

Re-creation of the original Hampsterdance page from 1997:
originalhampster.ytmnd.com

Wingnuts tend to skim past that “general welfare” part to the II Amendment.

That said, the Preamble of the Constitution is a statement of aims. No court has ever cited the Preamble in litigation.

But it has certainly been used for the basis for a lot of legislation and regulation.

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freetoken  May 15, 2017 • 5:28:10am

Upon watching the 70’s version of Match Game on Youtube I’ve become more aware of how much of television, game shows in particular, is about reification.

Anyway, the allegedly un-aired-on-CBS episode near the end of the daytime run, after it had been cancelled, also had the highest winner in the history of the show, technically breaking the bank (the CBS game show limit):

Match Game 79 (Episoe 1448) (All-Time Match Game Winner) (UN-AIRED EPISODE)

$32k back in 1979 was a decent amount of money. The woman went on to work in academia, I think, if this is her:
linkedin.com

Glad to see someone put their winnings to good use.

BTW, that episode also had as a guest “star” Brianne Leary, who I only vaguely remember from her time as an supporting actor on CHiPs. She was formerly a contestant on the same show a few years earlier.

Anyway Match Game, it’s main spin-off (Family Feud), predecessors, and countless other game shows are about rewarding people for conforming to the group-think.

In this these game-shows are just doing what is typical in society. Religions, military, etc. are about rewarding conformity and punishing going outside the lines.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2017 • 5:29:02am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just as the wingnuts see “individual freedom” as the freedom of individuals and families with limited assets and incomes to negotiate one-on-one for terms of coverage with multi-million-dollar insurance corporations whose CEO’s earn more in a year than most of us do in a lifetime…

Yes and they also see the breakdown of package insurance policies into ala carte menu items so that each element (cardiac care, kidney care, ear-nose-throat, allergies, ob-gyn, reproductive, pediatric, geriatric, pulmonary, bone and joint, cancer, etc. etc. etc.) must be purchased separately, offering MOAR CHOICE MEENS MOAR COMPETITIONS!!!!!! while at the same time condensing tax brackets BECAUSE SEVEN TAX BRACKETS IS TOO CONFUSINGS!!!!!!!

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2017 • 5:30:06am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But it has certainly been used for the basis for a lot of legislation and regulation.

Because it supplies a malleable framework for the empowered decisionmakers in our time and place to decide what rights we all have here and now.

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freetoken  May 15, 2017 • 5:32:33am

Squirrel just landed on this birdfeeder as I was watching:

Cornell Feeders at Sapsucker Woods

Poor birds have big competition there.

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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 5:33:39am

Louise is really going balls out on this claim. Doesn’t help that she clearly still doesn’t know what the Supremacy Clause even is.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 5:34:38am

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

Louise is really going balls out on this claim. Doesn’t help that she clearly still doesn’t know what the Supremacy Clause even is.

And non-Americans get annoyed when Americans don’t understand how other governments work.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 5:35:59am

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

Louise is really going balls out on this claim. Doesn’t help that she clearly still doesn’t know what the Supremacy Clause even is.

It is the one that orders us to Stop in the Name of Love?

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The Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2017 • 5:36:09am

NYT proving just how failed it is

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 5:37:30am

re: #170 freetoken

I used to love the original Match Game (and the not-so-subtle innuendo)

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I cannot.  May 15, 2017 • 5:38:59am

Nazi Furs…the only thing that would make it worse if it was Illinois Nazi Furs…

Though the convention’s staff has announced an absolute zero-tolerance policy for that.

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 15, 2017 • 5:39:03am

re: #165 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Snappa!

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 5:40:33am

:(

Powers Boothe, the character actor known for his villain roles in TV’s “Deadwood,” and in the movies “Tombstone,” ”Sin City” and “The Avengers,” has died. He was 68.

Boothe’s publicist said he died of natural causes at his home in Los Angeles on Sunday.

Fellow actor Beau Bridges tweeted the news and called him “a dear friend, great actor, devoted father and husband.”

richmond.com

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I cannot.  May 15, 2017 • 5:48:22am

I’m not rooting for one side to win this fight…

…I’m here cheering for injuries.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 5:48:58am

re: #183 I cannot.

I’m not rooting for one side to win this fight…

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…I’m here cheering for injuries.

Mutually assured destruction?

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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 5:50:14am
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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 5:51:41am

re: #183 I cannot.

I’m not rooting for one side to win this fight…

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…I’m here cheering for injuries.

It’s like one of those free car contests dealerships run, the last one with their lips on Trump’s ass wins.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 5:51:43am

re: #180 I cannot.

Nazi Furs…the only thing that would make it worse if it was Illinois Nazi Furs…

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LOL, “master race”: I don’t have the money and my mom would think im [sic] doing stupid shit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 5:52:19am

re: #185 goddamnedfrank

This kind of abject & deceptive simplism is a horrible way to sell your message. Socialist healthcare is more cost effective, but not free.

yes, the argument is counter-productive and totally alienates people who are otherwise practical-minded with regards to health care but do not like the notion of “free” anything.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2017 • 5:52:26am

re: #183 I cannot.

I’m not rooting for one side to win this fight…

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…I’m here cheering for injuries.

Can we shoot the winner?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 5:53:14am

re: #180 I cannot.

Nazi Furs…the only thing that would make it worse if it was Illinois Nazi Furs…

Is the leader of the group the Fur Herr?

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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 5:53:35am
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Scout  May 15, 2017 • 5:54:03am

From that Coulter creature:

“I think everyone who voted for him knew his personality was grotesque, it was the issues.”

I wonder … I think conservatives are so twisted they think he has a winning personality.

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jeffreyw  May 15, 2017 • 5:54:29am

re: #181 (alpuz)

Snappa!

The dog boy was barking him this morning first thing. Our back yard is between two ponds that turtles shuttle between, taking care of their turtle business.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 5:56:45am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes, the argument is counter-productive and totally alienates people who are otherwise practical-minded with regards to health care but do not like the notion of “free” anything.

A better argument is the government provides a service (healthcare) in exchange for taxation. It isn’t free, but it is available to all.

For those who want cadillac care, non-necessary care (like most plastic surgery), you are also free to buy insurance or pay out-of-pocket.

The socialistic argument to make is that the government can provide regular services for everyone at a lower cost, because it is not in it for profit.

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2017 • 5:59:29am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes, the argument is counter-productive and totally alienates people who are otherwise practical-minded with regards to health care but do not like the notion of “free” anything.

You could twist language and economic theory to the point that something like national healthcare service (or the Apollo program) are nearly “free”. It’s not a useful way to think or argue right now.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 6:02:30am

A similar argument to that (which I had with a libertarian who just didn’t get it) is the town water systems around here.

Some capitalistic genius went around to all the towns here and convinced every town (except ours) to sell them their water systems, promising better service, and a pile of money for each town.

They all bit except mine (though there was a bitter fight in the village until the board rejected the offer).

Not too long after the water company bought up the city water systems, the prices started going up, the maintenance started going down, and the profits started leaving the area.

In the meantime, our socialistic water system (we own the means of production) has the cheapest water in the Panhandle, and is partially subsidised with county property taxes.

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Teukka  May 15, 2017 • 6:03:05am

re: #163 Anymouse

Then they started killing the disabled, the elderly, epileptics, &c, because healthcare was a privilege Nazi Germany didn’t want to expend Reichsmarks on.

Yep. This was basically how they sold it:


The above is an exercise from a math book for children. 1935, people.
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The Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2017 • 6:03:10am

re: #191 goddamnedfrank

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freetoken  May 15, 2017 • 6:05:18am

This feeding station is very active:

In the span of less than an hour all sorts of birds showed up… including the hooman caretaker.

The blue jays are quite skittish, it would seem. The doves hold their own against any bird that wants to crowd them out (usually a handful of blackbirds), but the blue jays flit away easily.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2017 • 6:06:00am

re: #197 Teukka

Yep. This was basically how they sold it:

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The above is an exercise from a math book for children. 1935, people.

Die Endlösung (“The Final Solution”) was selected because ultimately it was the cheapest way to get rid of all the unwanted useless eaters.

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2017 • 6:06:22am

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

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In Ponytopia, the same people will be shovelling the same shit.

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Teukka  May 15, 2017 • 6:08:07am

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

Die Endlösung (“The Final Solution”) was selected because ultimately it was the cheapest way to get rid of all the unwanted useless eaters.

And that is almost always forgotten. How cheap it was and how much was saved and in some cases gained. And not that many remember Aktion T4.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 15, 2017 • 6:09:15am

re: #201 Decatur Deb

In Ponytopia, the same people will be shovelling the same shit.

Someone once asked if kitty heaven is mouse hell.
/

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 6:09:56am

re: #202 Teukka

And that is almost always forgotten. How cheap it was and how much was saved and in some cases gained. And not that many remember Aktion T4.

Or the number of Jews who were simply worked to death.

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Belafon  May 15, 2017 • 6:10:03am

re: #191 goddamnedfrank

There is no “socialism”, and there is no “capitalism.” In some cases, it’s better to let the market figure out costs and distribution, and in other cases, it’s better to let the people. They are tools not systems.

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Teukka  May 15, 2017 • 6:14:57am

re: #204 Timothy Watson

Or the number of Jews who were simply worked to death.

And the others. Slightly less than half of the people exterminated were Jews (albeit they are the single largest group), the rest were various Untermensch, lesbians, gays, developmentally disabled, mentally ill, criminals, Roma, etc.
And only a fraction were actually killed in the camps, the rest were killed in various other ways, usually mass graves out in the woods.

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

— Rev Martin Niemöller

And people wonder why I am a complete and utter beyatch to anyone and anything even remotely resembling those guys.

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KGxvi  May 15, 2017 • 6:18:08am

re: #205 Belafon

There is no “socialism”, and there is no “capitalism.” In some cases, it’s better to let the market figure out costs and distribution, and in other cases, it’s better to let the people. They are tools not systems.

In both systems people are still deciding costs and distribution. The difference is the manner in which they do so. In one it’s through a series of individual transactions, in the other it’s through some (hopefully) representative body

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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 6:18:19am

Also looks like Trump voters are down 9 points from the last poll I saw. I mean, they’re still trash but even they’re showing signs of beginning to budge in realizing what a horrid failure he is as President.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2017 • 6:19:06am

re: #202 Teukka

And that is almost always forgotten. How cheap it was and how much was saved and in some cases gained. And not that many remember Aktion T4.

That was the first wave of mass murder, the killing of the disabled. It paved the way for the genocide of Jews and Roma and the mass murder of gays.

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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 6:19:35am

re: #205 Belafon

There is no “socialism”, and there is no “capitalism.” In some cases, it’s better to let the market figure out costs and distribution, and in other cases, it’s better to let the people. They are tools not systems.

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Teukka  May 15, 2017 • 6:20:31am

re: #209 The Vicious Babushka

That was the first wave of mass murder, the killing of the disabled. It paved the way for the genocide of Jews and Roma and the mass murder of gays.

Indeed. Tho the tail end of it was still going on when the decision at that conference in Wannsee was put into action.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 6:20:57am

re: #210 goddamnedfrank

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*sigh*

Any other utopias they want to promise?

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freetoken  May 15, 2017 • 6:21:35am

In my little discourse on game shows I left out my prattling on about the magick of words.

Many of the game shows are centered around words - either being able to identify words, or to be able to recall specific words or speech patterns.

If you observe the audience responses (knowing that they are often prompted), audiences react to words. The more familiar a word, the more of a response.

Words are triggers. Part of the defining characteristic of our species is the evolution of language. Language is a significant, perhaps the most significant, element in what makes us “human”.

Anyway, be aware of the magickalness of words.

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Sir John Barron  May 15, 2017 • 6:22:17am

re: #210 goddamnedfrank

No one will have to pay money for anything after outdated capitalism is abandoned. Real socialism means free access worldsocialism.org

— The Socialist Party

Oh, OK.

/

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lawhawk  May 15, 2017 • 6:22:58am

re: #3 The Spite House

The same exact scatter plot would describe any question asking where Iran, Iraq, Syria, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, or for that sake France and the UK are located.

People have not the slightest clue where countries are located, let alone their relative size and geographical relationships to each other.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 6:23:35am

re: #210 goddamnedfrank

Real socialism means free access

And anyone who disagrees is a…

Monty Python Splitter

///

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freetoken  May 15, 2017 • 6:24:00am

Baltimore Oriole photobomb:

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Teukka  May 15, 2017 • 6:24:07am

re: #212 Timothy Watson

*sigh*

Any other utopias they want to promise?

The thing is, neither socialism nor capitalism is the ticket. But we need to get our shit together ASAP.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 6:25:24am

re: #210 goddamnedfrank

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The circle of derp. That person is promoting theoretical communism, not socialism. Moreover, libertarians promote the same thing.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 6:27:41am
As white parents of five black children, Deanna and Aaron Cook have taught their family to grow thick skin. They’ve endured odd looks at the grocery store in Malden, Mass., and ignored strange comments from Walmart greeters.

But nothing, Aaron Cook told The Washington Post, quite prepared them for the month-long battle they’ve been fighting with the Mystic Valley Regional Charter School over their daughters’ hair.

On April 14, twins Deanna and Mya Cook, 15, told their parents they wanted to have their hair professionally braided. The girls had always braided it themselves or had it chemically straightened, but as teens they were learning more about black culture and wanted to try something new.

Soon after, they went to school with long, braided hair.

The next day, the girls were called to the office for a “uniform infraction.”

Hair extensions are prohibited in the public charter school’s student handbook, alongside nail polish, makeup and dyed hair because it is “distracting.” An administrator told Deanna and Mya that their new braids — which combine artificial hair with their own hair — violated that rule.

washingtonpost.com

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 6:27:49am

re: #215 lawhawk

The same exact scatter plot would describe any question asking where Iran, Iraq, Syria, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, or for that sake France and the UK are located.

People have not the slightest clue where countries are located, let alone their relative size and geographical relationships to each other.

I can find Canada. It’s where you can get poutine and Tim Horton’s coffee (so Canada is my house). /s

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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 6:28:29am

re: #212 Timothy Watson

*sigh*

Any other utopias they want to promise?

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 6:29:34am

re: #218 Teukka

The thing is, neither socialism nor capitalism is the ticket. But we need to get our shit together ASAP.

What happens to that putative socialist the second his country is invaded by another that doesn’t hold the same ideals? (That’s why Somalia as a libertarian paradise failed.)

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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 6:33:32am

LOLOLOLOL!!!

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lawhawk  May 15, 2017 • 6:34:27am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Looks like Ann Coulter haz a sad because Trump the Great Negotiator turns out to be yet another empty promise/bafflement with bullshit.

Reality is that Trump was always a con artist and grifter, and was never a skillful negotiator. Being a bully and using an inherited real estate fortune to con others into doing your bidding isn’t the same as being a skilled negotiator.

Reality is that to be a skilled negotiator you have to know all the facts and details of both sides in the negotiation. If you want to conduct a successful negotiation, you’d need to know your rival’s positions as well as they know yours, so that you can find a point in the middle where you can find commonalities and reach a conclusion where both sides have obtained some of what they seek; neither side gets all of what they want - the point of negotiation is that it’s seen as win-win by both sides.

Trump repeatedly shows that he has no interest in facts or minutiae. In fact, it looks like Trump’s a fan of fiction and his minions are feeding him an endless stream of fake stories to boost his ego, confirm his worldview, and otherwise are lying their asses of to him so that he can continue lying to the American people.

In any other administration, this kind of action would result in summary firings of those involved. With Trump, this behavior is apparently condoned and supported, all because Trump needs to have his insulated bubble where facts, news, and logic are absent, and he can baffle his supporters with still more bullshit.

Moreover, had any of this kind of news surfaced in an Obama Administration, the GOP would be holding immediate hearings overnight, drafting letters of impeachment on grounds that the president is actively undermining US national security and violating his oath. Here? The GOP continues enabling Trump and Ryan and McConnell are culpable and complicit.

That’s why there’s no chance at impeachment unless and until the House/Senate change hands. It’s wishful thinking to consider otherwise. At the same time, buying into the nonstop flow of claims that indictments are just around the corner is also so much wish fulfillment and wishful thinking (think TrueStatedFacts & Louise Mensch to name but two). It is possible that indictments are forthcoming? Yes. Does it mean that the Trump admin is crumbling? No.

Any prosecutor that is bringing a case will want to make sure it’s airtight, and they’re not going to be dropping hints that there’s 28, 48, or 100+ indictments ready to fall. In fact, it’s likely to start with one or two people getting hit with multiple charges, or that we learn that a number of individuals are cooperating with law enforcement and prosecutors in lieu for preferential treatment after that deal is done.

Therefore, I’d urge caution on anyone claiming that the indictments are right around the corner. It’s the same kind of baffling BS that HA Goodman spewed for months on end about how Clinton was going to be indicted and that’d be the end of her campaign.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 15, 2017 • 6:36:30am

Good morning Lizard Nation. Had a kitty scare yesterday. Our Manx pulled the almost latched door open, the front gate was wide open and to the grass by the street she went sniffing. Thank goodness our bond is such that she does not bolt away from me. Her one big personality flaw is she is cat aggressive. No meet and greets allowed.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 6:36:32am

re: #224 goddamnedfrank

LOLOLOLOL!!!

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We should get rid of the Office of Special Counsel, save $155 million, and give every corporation a Snickers bar!!1!

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The Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2017 • 6:36:45am

re: #215 lawhawk

The same exact scatter plot would describe any question asking where Iran, Iraq, Syria, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, or for that sake France and the UK are located.

People have not the slightest clue where countries are located, let alone their relative size and geographical relationships to each other.

Here is what happened when an Australian kid was asked to fill in the names of the states of the United States:

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Teukka  May 15, 2017 • 6:39:31am

re: #223 Anymouse

What happens to that putative socialist the second his country is invaded by another that doesn’t hold the same ideals? (That’s why Somalia as a libertarian paradise failed.)

The trick is to implement a system which works well and adapts reasonably fast to changes so that any wannabee invader ends up with having to keep the system because it would be too messy or counter-productive in terms of resistance to remove it.

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Jay C  May 15, 2017 • 6:39:38am

re: #50 wheat-dogg

From downstairs, in case you missed it.

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Sure did miss it til this morning. Thanks!

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 6:42:30am

re: #225 lawhawk

Well, if Mr. Trump’s polling continues to decline, and it is tied to the House, Senate, and state GOP, they may jump before the election to try to save their prospects.

I don’t expect the GOP to do anything unless they feel their own reëlection chances are threatened. They don’t need Trump, they have Pence. If for some reason Pence were to go down, they have Ryan. If Ryan went down, they have Orrin Hatch.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 6:47:24am

With the insider stock trading scandal involving Tom Price, four more Republicans are ensnared buying stock in the same firm Price did.
politico.com

A Washington Post editorial called Price “a walking, talking example of the ways in which congressional ethics requirements are too lax.” Sen. Chris Murphy demanded: “Tell me how it can possibly be OK that you were championing positions on health care issues that have the effect of increasing your personal wealth?” Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) asked him, “Doesn’t this show bad judgment?”

But what many saw as a scandal, others saw as an opportunity. On the very day that Wyden was decrying Price’s bad judgment, Rep. Doug Lamborn, Republican of Colorado, bought shares of the same tiny Australian company, Innate Immunotherapeutics. Within two days three more members also bought in — Republicans Billy Long of Missouri, Mike Conaway of Texas and John Culberson of Texas. Conaway added more shares the following week.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2017 • 6:49:34am

re: #231 Anymouse

Well, if Mr. Trump’s polling continues to decline, and it is tied to the House, Senate, and state GOP, they may jump before the election to try to save their prospects.

I don’t expect the GOP to do anything unless they feel their own reëlection chances are threatened. They don’t need Trump, they have Pence. If for some reason Pence were to go down, they have Ryan. If Ryan went down, they have Orrin Hatch.

And then there is the shitshow of a Cabinet.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 6:51:21am

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

And then there is the shitshow of a Cabinet.

The only even acceptable one there is Mathis.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 6:51:57am

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

And then there is the shitshow of a Cabinet.

Which is also now in trouble, as the FOX News scandal is starting to engulf Republicans in New York, Virginia, and the White House.
politico.com

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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 6:55:41am
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Belafon  May 15, 2017 • 6:58:09am

re: #236 goddamnedfrank

THAT is a textbook example of the violation of her constitutional rights.

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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 6:59:18am

re: #236 goddamnedfrank

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lawhawk  May 15, 2017 • 7:01:44am

How Trump gets his fake news. I don’t totally buy that he’s not surfing the web on his own, and instead has his underlings and minions finding all the crap for Trump to then savor and stew in.

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KGxvi  May 15, 2017 • 7:02:44am

re: #238 goddamnedfrank

Should tag the House Ethics Committee, no?

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Sir John Barron  May 15, 2017 • 7:03:03am

re: #235 Anymouse

The most immediate political consequences are those facing New York mayoral hopeful Richard “Bo” Dietl, a private investigator and former Fox News contributor who had long denied reports that he surveiled Ailes biographer Gabriel Sherman and others on behalf of the ousted network chief. Earlier this month, Dietl admitted to the Wall Street Journal that he had investigated Andrea Mackris, a former Fox producer who sued Bill O’Reilly for sexual harassment in 2004, and Gretchen Carlson, whose accusations against Ailes prompted his ouster last year, on behalf of the network.

Perfect for FBI. Everybody approve. Steve, get me his number.

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freetoken  May 15, 2017 • 7:03:27am

re: #239 lawhawk

He knows how to use Twitter. That we know.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 7:03:59am

re: #239 lawhawk

How Trump gets his fake news. I don’t totally buy that he’s not surfing the web on his own, and instead has his underlings and minions finding all the crap for Trump to then savor and stew in.

K.T. McFarland, still fucking shit up.

Wasn’t she supposed to be Dilbert principled out of the West Wing? (Just like Gorka and everyone else that gets bad headlines?)

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 7:05:00am

re: #239 lawhawk

How Trump gets his fake news. I don’t totally buy that he’s not surfing the web on his own, and instead has his underlings and minions finding all the crap for Trump to then savor and stew in.

FUCK.

Just read a couple more paragraphs. Someone gave Trump print-offs of UpChuck.

FUCK, I HATE THIS COUNTRY.

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Jay C  May 15, 2017 • 7:05:02am

re: #241 Sir John Barron

Perfect for FBI. Everybody approve. Steve, get me his number.

“New York mayoral hopeful”??
Good luck with THAT, Bo….

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Birth Control Works  May 15, 2017 • 7:07:38am

It’s morning

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The Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2017 • 7:07:44am

re: #239 lawhawk

How Trump gets his fake news. I don’t totally buy that he’s not surfing the web on his own, and instead has his underlings and minions finding all the crap for Trump to then savor and stew in.

I can believe that he does not surf the web on his own. He prefers to watch cable TV and to have news stories summarized on one page with bullet points. There is too much to process from one Google search on his own name and no way to filter out everything that is unflattering.

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carey94tt  May 15, 2017 • 7:12:23am

Charles C. Johnson (who is not our beloved Charles), get prominent mention in Politico article on where Trump receives fake news….

politico.com

That is what happened in late February when someone mischievously gave the president a printed copy of an article from redacted, the website of Internet provocateur Charles C. Johnson, which accused deputy chief of staff Katie Walsh of being “the source behind a bunch of leaks” in the White House.

No matter that Johnson had been permanently banned from Twitter for harassment or that he offered no concrete evidence or that he’s lobbed false accusations in the past and recanted them. Trump read the article and began asking staff about Walsh. Johnson told POLITICO that he tracks the IP addresses of visitors to his website and added: “I can tell you unequivocally that the story was shared all around the White House.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 15, 2017 • 7:14:05am

re: #112 Blind Frog Belly White

IOW, the problem with talking about biochemistry by analogy is that things that can be analogized similarly may be very different phenomena.

As happens with chirality of chemicals. D and L enantiomers denote direction of rotated polarized light in a solution containing more of one of enanitiomers and give no information on the actual relative location of side chains off the chiral atom.

Under IUPAC notation, R and S will give you tell information about the chiral center side chain location with no information on the directionality of rotated light. This is the current standard for naming all chemical entities. The D and L notation is considered archaic and cannot inform the chemist of the absolute configuration.

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wheat-dogg  May 15, 2017 • 7:16:24am

re: #213 freetoken

In my little discourse on game shows I left out my prattling on about the magick of words.

Many of the game shows are centered around words - either being able to identify words, or to be able to recall specific words or speech patterns.

If you observe the audience responses (knowing that they are often prompted), audiences react to words. The more familiar a word, the more of a response.

Words are triggers. Part of the defining characteristic of our species is the evolution of language. Language is a significant, perhaps the most significant, element in what makes us “human”.

Anyway, be aware of the magickalness of words.

Never tell anyone your true name. It gives them power over you.

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lawhawk  May 15, 2017 • 7:17:13am

re: #244 Timothy Watson

FUCK.

Just read a couple more paragraphs. Someone gave Trump print-offs of UpChuck.

FUCK, I HATE THIS COUNTRY.

Of course they gave him print outs of Rage Furby. These know-nothing assclowns are trying to show their loyalty to Trump by pushing stuff Trump wants to hear & believes.

A know-nothing ignoramus only wants to hear what reinforces his worldview, and anyone who provides contrary information is seen as disloyal. That’s why he attacks stuff like the CBO and BLS - their information directly contradicts every piece of information about his take on the economy.

All the while the GOP enables his nonsensical worldview.

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lawhawk  May 15, 2017 • 7:18:04am
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wheat-dogg  May 15, 2017 • 7:23:48am

re: #230 Jay C

Sure did miss it til this morning. Thanks!

You’re welcome. I discovered Wheeler Dealers on YouTube a while back, and the Lotus Elan was one of the first I watched. Mr DopeFishLives will enjoy this one — a Continental with the suicide doors.

Wheeler Dealers S11E14 Lincoln Continental

When I had a garage and a car, I loved working on my car (except in the dead of winter when some absolutely necessary thing had to be fixed — no heat in the garage). Now I have no car and no garage. Watching this show brings back those memories.

But I never had the number of tools the show mechanic, Edd China, has.

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Barefoot Grin  May 15, 2017 • 7:25:13am

re: #228 The Vicious Babushka

Here is what happened when an Australian kid was asked to fill in the names of the states of the United States:

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“southwest vaginia” lol. “that’s it, i’m done”=Arkansas; ha!

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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 7:25:50am

re: #240 KGxvi

Should tag the House Ethics Committee, no?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 15, 2017 • 7:25:57am

re: #118 teleskiguy

It’s disgusting. Religious right folks have been thoroughly brainwashed to think that the more prosperous you are the more worthy you are to be a part of God’s kingdom.

Megachurches are evil.

It is pure Calvinism. It has never left our country. The puritans were evil incarnate.

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FormerDirtDart  May 15, 2017 • 7:27:02am
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Barefoot Grin  May 15, 2017 • 7:27:39am

re: #248 carey94tt

Charles C. Johnson (who is not our beloved Charles), get prominent mention in Politico article on where Trump receives fake news….

politico.com

Looks like he crossed Bannon. Maybe that’s why he’s had a low profile of late.

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freetoken  May 15, 2017 • 7:28:50am
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Belafon  May 15, 2017 • 7:29:30am

re: #250 wheat-dogg

Never tell anyone your true name. It gives them power over you.

Aristoi by Walter Jon Williams.

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lawhawk  May 15, 2017 • 7:30:55am

re: #255 goddamnedfrank

The US OGE addresses ethics violations in the Executive Branch. There’s no specific twitter feed for the House Ethics Committee. Rather, you’d have to contact Brooks and Deutsch (Chair and Ranking Member).

I see you found a link to Office of Congressional Ethics tho.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 7:34:08am

re: #194 Anymouse

A better argument is the government provides a service (healthcare) in exchange for taxation. It isn’t free, but it is available to all.

another argument is simply that the government regulates the market to ensure a level playing field that benefits everyone, including those with pre-existing conditions.

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Teukka  May 15, 2017 • 7:35:13am

re: #262 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

another argument is simply that the government regulates the market to ensure a level playing field that benefits everyone, including those with pre-existing conditions.

Another is that if there is equal access is the costs become lower because people don’t wait until a problem is much more expensive to solve before seeking medical help.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 7:36:53am

re: #263 Teukka

Another is that if there is equal access is the costs become lower because people don’t wait until a problem is much more expensive to solve before seeking medical help.

It would be nice if the government was able to compete with insurance companies, which skim profit without providing service.

Funny how corporations are allegedly about “competition” until the competitors are the people in union (government).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 7:37:10am

re: #205 Belafon

There is no “socialism”, and there is no “capitalism.” In some cases, it’s better to let the market figure out costs and distribution, and in other cases, it’s better to let the people. They are tools not systems.

For many, the “Free Market” is as much of an ideology as Communism ever was. And as with Communism or Fascism, certain unfortunate individuals had to suffer in order to promote the Greater Good.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 15, 2017 • 7:37:23am

re: #165 jeffreyw

Rabbits. You need to post rabbit pictures.

Like this dwarf lionhead rabbit
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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 7:37:26am

I’m going to lie down … catch y’all later.

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Anymouse  May 15, 2017 • 7:37:47am

re: #266 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Rabbits. You need to post rabbit pictures.

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That looks like a guinea pig with big ears.

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Belafon  May 15, 2017 • 7:38:02am

re: #262 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

another argument is simply that the government regulates the market to ensure a level playing field that benefits everyone, including those with pre-existing conditions.

The original tweet was arguing that somehow, healthcare was going to be free, as in beer. That was what Anymouse, among others was countering.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 7:38:27am

re: #264 Anymouse

It would be nice if the government was able to compete with insurance companies, which skim profit without providing service.

Funny how corporations are allegedly about “competition” until the competitors are the people in union (government).

And “we need to run government more like a business”, but no, we’re going to prohibit Medicare from negotiating on drug prices like every insurance company does.

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makeitstop  May 15, 2017 • 7:41:42am

Todd Rundgren is a good egg. He gives fair warning to Trump supporters who come out to his show.

Todd Rundgren has a warning for supporters of President Donald Trump: Keep away.

“Don’t come to my show,” Rundgren told Variety. “Because you won’t have a good time.”

Rundgren’s latest album features the anti-Trump song “Tin Foil Hat,” which he recorded with Donald Fagen of Steely Dan.

Addressing Trump supporters, he said:

“I don’t understand your frickin’ values. Because I’m not singing about that. If you don’t understand that basic thing, you’re just fooling yourself. I guarantee that in this show, if you’re a Trump supporter, you will likely be offended. Let the buyer beware! I mean, if you can’t take a joke, or you can’t admit that you’ve made a mistake, you don’t belong with the rest of us.”

Rundgren laughed at the end of his comments, Willman noted.

Go TR.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 15, 2017 • 7:41:52am

re: #174 freetoken

My bird buffet isn’t quite that elaborate yet. But, I have squirrel feeders in amongst the bird feeders. My squirrels are fat. I need one of these:

Squirrel Go Round

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freetoken  May 15, 2017 • 7:44:39am

Many Americans watch some talking-head network “news” show in the morning.

Me - I’m watching felid dentistry….

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goddamnedfrank  May 15, 2017 • 7:47:57am

Article says they’re basically preparing for an angry toddler. So fucking embarrassing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 7:50:35am

re: #264 Anymouse

Funny how corporations are allegedly about “competition” until the competitors are the people in union (government).

When investors pool their resources to optimize profits, that is a Corporation, (which is a legal construct that only exists because government has created regulations governing them) and is upheld as the very heart and soul of the Free Market.

But when employees or consumers (who are born and exist without any government being directly involved) pool their bargaining power to maximize wages, benefits or purchasing power, that is a union, and is frowned upon as the complete antithesis of the Free Market…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 7:51:55am

re: #274 goddamnedfrank

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Article says they’re basically preparing for an angry toddler. So fucking embarrassing.

this is why we cannot have nice things…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 15, 2017 • 7:52:10am

re: #199 freetoken

Right now there are Mourning Doves and Bluejays and a Red Bellied woodpecker. Starlings. I have issues with hordes of Starlings, but in ones and twos, they are ok.

Thanks for the link. It’s an awesome window on my desktop now.

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freetoken  May 15, 2017 • 7:54:18am

re: #277 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Here in San Diego there is quite a variety of birds, many not native. The blue jays can pester sometimes, but the only really annoying birds are the parrots, now habituated to San Diego county. There are a few flocks that move around the county following the food sources during the year. Sometimes they end up on my block just to rest - what a racket.

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Weaselone  May 15, 2017 • 8:00:05am

re: #274 goddamnedfrank

I would suggest actors dressed up as generals with lots of shiny medals with real politicians and military leaders kept out of both reach and earshot.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 15, 2017 • 8:00:51am

re: #225 lawhawk

In any other administration, this kind of action would result in summary firings of those involved. With Trump, this behavior is apparently condoned and supported, all because Trump needs to have his insulated bubble where facts, news, and logic are absent, and he can baffle his supporters with still more bullshit.

The analysis in The Economist made a very similar point when it compared the 45* administration to the Tudor court with functionaries vying for his ear at all times and courtiers standing about agreeing with everything that pours out of his face-hole.

As they said (paraphrase), don’t ever go Henry VIII and 45* went Henry VIII

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 8:00:53am

re: #274 goddamnedfrank

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Article says they’re basically preparing for an angry toddler. So fucking embarrassing.

They can have a contest where they vote an alliance member out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 8:03:07am

re: #281 Timothy Watson

They can have a contest where they vote an alliance member out.

They can, however, vote to dissolve NATO and found a new alliance without the US

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sagehen  May 15, 2017 • 8:04:41am

re: #274 goddamnedfrank

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Article says they’re basically preparing for an angry toddler. So fucking embarrassing.

OMG. OMGOMGOMG!!1!!eleventy!!

If they can keep Trump’s attention, NATO heads of state are expected to discuss two main issues at the May 25 meeting, both catering to the president’s priorities: Counterterrorism and burden sharing.

Part of the issue is staffing: After months of Trump threatening a radically new approach to global alliances the United States helped create, there’s nobody even charting a new course. Trump hasn’t appointed any key high-level posts for Europe, including key Pentagon postings, undersecretaries of state, an assistant secretary of state for Europe, or a new ambassador to NATO. With no middle-management to give direction on a day-to-day basis, Europeans are struggling to decipher exactly what the new administration wants from them.

One former NATO official said the agenda meant to to mollify Trump appeared to amount to repackaging what NATO was already doing — increasing its defense spending and continuing to support U.S. efforts in Afghanistan and the counter-ISIS campaign — in a new wrapper for the president.

“They think they’re fine because they’re going to put old wine in new bottles,” one former senior U.S. official told FP. Whether Trump buys it remains to be seen.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 8:08:17am

re: #283 sagehen

Part of the issue is staffing: After months of Trump threatening a radically new approach to global alliances the United States helped create, there’s nobody even charting a new course. Trump hasn’t appointed any key high-level posts for Europe, including key Pentagon postings, undersecretaries of state, an assistant secretary of state for Europe, or a new ambassador to NATO. With no middle-management to give direction on a day-to-day basis, Europeans are struggling to decipher exactly what the new administration wants from them.

But his transition was underbudget. Bigly, yugely.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 8:11:51am

re: #281 Timothy Watson

They can have a contest where they vote an alliance member out.

Just found the video of the host they should use. Luxembourg, you are the weakest link:

You are the weakest link, goodbye

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Dr. Matt  May 15, 2017 • 8:14:25am
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lawhawk  May 15, 2017 • 8:16:40am

re: #282 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They can, however, vote to dissolve NATO and found a new alliance without the US

And who benefits?

This guy:

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Dr. Matt  May 15, 2017 • 8:18:03am
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wheat-dogg  May 15, 2017 • 8:21:50am

re: #260 Belafon

Aristoi by Walter Jon Williams.

That wasn’t the book I was thinking of, but now I want to read it. I can’t remember the SF story or book that had that “true name” trope in it, though.

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nines09  May 15, 2017 • 8:22:44am
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makeitstop  May 15, 2017 • 8:27:02am

Here’s the Rundgren-Fagen song about Trump. A nice cross between TR and Steely Dan.

Todd Rundgren/Donald Fagen: Tin Foil Hat

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 8:28:19am

re: #269 Belafon

The original tweet was arguing that somehow, healthcare was going to be free, as in beer. That was what Anymouse, among others was countering.

Yes, and that is unicorn-fart wishful thinking. the point is that by including everyone in healthcare, overall costs will actually decrease.

Example: We have the Emergency Care Act in the USA. Anyone coming to a clinic or hospital with an emergency condition must be given life-saving assistance, regardless of their ability to pay.

But what happens when we have large numbers of people coming to emergency clinics who cannot pay? The costs are passed onto those who can.

And a large number of these emergency procedures (bypass operations, for example) could be prevented with a minimum of prophylactic care, therapy or prescriptions, which might cost a few hundred dollars rather than tens of thousands for a major life-saving operation…

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ObserverArt  May 15, 2017 • 8:30:07am

re: #183 I cannot.

I’m not rooting for one side to win this fight…

Bill Mitchell ✔ @mitchellvii
COULTER HAS LOST HER MIND - Ann Coulter Is Worried The ‘Trump-Haters Were Right’ | The Daily Caller dailycaller.com
5:04 AM - 15 May 2017

…I’m here cheering for injuries.

Uh oh…Ann is having doubts.

Makes me wonder how many other arch conservatives are bumming out that Donny is not their man. and they were conned.

I sure feel sorry for them…no I don’t.

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Interesting Times  May 15, 2017 • 8:33:15am

re: #288 Dr. Matt

How has that not been turned into the latest captioned “NOPE” gif? It’s the perfect sequel to octopus running away.

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Dr. Matt  May 15, 2017 • 8:34:46am

It looks like that raging radical far-left MSNBC is looking to fire one of their few actual liberals, Lawrence O’Donnell. Go figure.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 8:37:35am

re: #295 Dr. Matt

It looks like that raging radical far-left MSNBC is looking to fire one of their few actual liberals, Lawrence O’Donnell. Go figure.

Need to find a slot for Hannity.

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Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2017 • 8:42:26am

So, I’m reading that Powers Boothe has died at the age of 68.

He was in many roles, Tombstone, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Sin City and Deadwood; for me, I’ll always remember him as the Rev. Jim Jones in Guyana Tragedy: The Story of Jim Jones. A masterclass in acting.

edition.cnn.com

[autoplay vid embedded at link]

RIP.

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2017 • 8:42:31am

re: #295 Dr. Matt

It looks like that raging radical far-left MSNBC is looking to fire one of their few actual liberals, Lawrence O’Donnell. Go figure.

Thing is, it doesn’t matter how far to the right they lean, the wingnuts will never watch them and so they’re simply wasting their time.

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freetoken  May 15, 2017 • 8:42:33am

Your dental xrays not quite like this:

I can identify with this poor thing:

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BigPapa  May 15, 2017 • 8:42:55am

How Trump gets his fake news

That is what happened in late February when someone mischievously gave the president a printed copy of an article from gotnews.com, the website of Internet provocateur Charles C. Johnson, which accused deputy chief of staff Katie Walsh of being “the source behind a bunch of leaks” in the White House.

We’ve jumped the shark. Several of them.

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FormerDirtDart  May 15, 2017 • 8:45:04am

Oh great, staff slipping Commander in Orange articles from Chuckie’s GotNews

The president rarely surfs the web on his own, but his staff have made a habit of slipping news stories on to his desk—including the occasional internet hoax.

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sagehen  May 15, 2017 • 8:46:37am

re: #295 Dr. Matt

It looks like that raging radical far-left MSNBC is looking to fire one of their few actual liberals, Lawrence O’Donnell. Go figure.

Many journalists and much of the audience may be liberal, but parent company Comcast has a deregulatory wishlist, and upper management are top-bracket taxpayers with stock options to boot.

Before it belonged to Comcast, NBC/MSNBC were a wholly-owned subsidiary of GE/Westinghouse. Again, happy viewers and good ratings/earnings for the broadcast division meant nothing compared to the parent company’s defense contracts.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2017 • 8:47:40am

And they got this intel from…???

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piratedan  May 15, 2017 • 8:48:15am

re: #298 Targetpractice

if the game plan is to remove liberals from network television where their voices could be heard at a standard place and time, then they’re (the conservatives) succeeding. We already have Faux news, the Christian Broadcasting network and a majority of the MSM Carrying the GOP’s water, liberals re being kicked out to the internet and guess what, net neutrality is also under attack.

So… yeah, I’m kinda done with the whole idea on the Conservatives being benign benevolent rulers/governors.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 8:49:58am

re: #298 Targetpractice

Thing is, it doesn’t matter how far to the right they lean, the wingnuts will never watch them and so they’re simply wasting their time.

This is a part of the Berniebro argument that starts to make sense: that appealing to any sort of moderate or centrist sentiments in the GOP is all but pointless: it is best to pursue a progressive agenda that has nothing to do with the GOP.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 8:52:24am
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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 8:55:33am

re: #303 The Vicious Babushka

The Trump administration is accusing the Syrian government carrying out mass killings of thousands of prisoners and burning the dead bodies in a large crematorium outside the capital.

The State Department says about 50 detainees a day are being hanged at Saydnaya (Said-nay-ah) military prison, about 45 minutes from Damascus. It says the crematorium is being used to hide evidence of the extent of the killings.

The department is releasing newly declassified photographs showing what it says is a building in the prison complex that has been modified to support the crematorium.

In presenting the photographs, the top U.S. diplomat for the Middle East, Stu Jones, said Monday that Syrian President Bashar Assad’s government “has sunk to a new level of depravity” with the support of Russia and Iran

nydailynews.com

Deep State getting deeper and Stater.

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BigPapa  May 15, 2017 • 8:55:39am

Why was KT McFarland slipping Trump hoaxes from GotNews? Trolling, or another crank who believes that shit?

Neither answer is good.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 15, 2017 • 8:55:43am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

Not to mention he had a seriously awesome name.

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2017 • 8:55:53am

re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is a part of the Berniebro argument that starts to make sense: that appealing to any sort of moderate or centrist sentiments in the GOP is all but pointless: it is best to pursue a progressive agenda that has nothing to do with the GOP.

Unfortunately, if we want any chance at retaking Congress next year, we’re going to have to find some way to appeal to those moderate and centrist “independents” in the voter pool. And the reason for that is the Berniebros made the decision last year that unless we’re flying the hammer and sickle over the DNC, they’re not interested in supporting the party.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 8:58:35am

re: #310 Eclectic Cyborg

Not to mention he had a seriously awesome name.

I loved his voice.

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Dr. Matt  May 15, 2017 • 8:59:40am

re: #311 Targetpractice

Unfortunately, if we want any chance at retaking Congress next year, we’re going to have to find some way to appeal to those moderate and centrist “independents” in the voter pool. And the reason for that is the Berniebros made the decision last year that unless we’re flying the hammer and sickle over the DNC, they’re not interested in supporting the party.

Hell, we need to find some way to have “loyalist” Democrats and liberals to show up to fucking vote in the first place.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 9:03:36am

Damn, Jennifer Rubin’s on point (emphasis in original):

Even Nikki Haley, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, seems to have lost her way. “The president is the CEO of the country,” Haley told ABC’s News George Stephanopoulos on Sunday. “He can hire and fire anyone he wants.” No, no, no. He is the chief executive of one branch of government, and he does not have the right to fire someone and lie about the reason as a means of derailing an investigation of executive-branch employees. Where did Haley get the idea he was responsible to no one and unconstrained by laws and norms? Again, to work for Trump requires one to think up justifications that defy common sense and ignore reality.

Even some of the “better” senators haven’t been very good. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) insists there cannot be a special prosecutor because this is a counterespionage investigation. HUH? Rosenstein is supervising the investigation, which Comey specifically said encompasses a criminal inquiry; the question is whether someone free from political manipulation (which Rosenstein is not, as demonstrated in the Comey firing) should do that job.

washingtonpost.com

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wheat-dogg  May 15, 2017 • 9:05:33am

re: #314 Timothy Watson

When you’ve lost Jennifer Rubin …

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Dr. Matt  May 15, 2017 • 9:06:23am

His face really is so fucking punchable:

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Interesting Times  May 15, 2017 • 9:06:45am

re: #311 Targetpractice

Unfortunately, if we want any chance at retaking Congress next year, we’re going to have to find some way to appeal to those moderate and centrist “independents” in the voter pool.

I don’t think these people even exist - they either support Democrats already, or have climbed all aboard the trump train because tax cuts.

As this article I’ve posed several times before states, there are hardly any “moderate” swing voters left - it’s more like people who hold a confused mishmash of extreme positions that don’t fully fit with either the GOP or Dems.

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lizardofid  May 15, 2017 • 9:08:07am

re: #313 Dr. Matt

That is the crux of the biscuit.

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HappyWarrior  May 15, 2017 • 9:09:16am

re: #307 Timothy Watson

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Good man. As I’ve said, either Ralph or Tom is a good choice.

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2017 • 9:10:08am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

His face really is so fucking punchable:

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A face that asks “Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?”

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ObserverArt  May 15, 2017 • 9:10:33am

So, we have dumbasses giving the top dumbass of our nation dumbass articles by other dumbasses.

Great.

Sooner or later this has got to concern American conservatives that have their head on straight. It has got to be a concern in the top corporation board rooms across America. Hopefully sooner than later they put the pressure on Congress to do something about it. After all, that is where the Republican party’s real power comes from.

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HappyWarrior  May 15, 2017 • 9:10:33am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

His face really is so fucking punchable:

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He really is a pathetic loser.

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FormerDirtDart  May 15, 2017 • 9:10:44am
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HappyWarrior  May 15, 2017 • 9:11:26am

re: #321 Targetpractice

A face that asks “Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?”

Haha he does look like Bateman.

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Dr. Matt  May 15, 2017 • 9:11:40am

Another Trump creep lusting after his own daughter

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HappyWarrior  May 15, 2017 • 9:12:49am

re: #324 FormerDirtDart

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Well Jeff remind me, who brought up death panels in 2009 and who supports eliminating bans on covering preexisting conditions? Sigh. Must be nice.

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2017 • 9:13:54am

re: #324 FormerDirtDart

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Now let’s be fair, Republicans don’t want people dead…because that would imply they give a damn if people live or die. They want huge tax cuts, which can only be funded by pricing millions of Americans out of the health insurance marketplace.

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Dr. Matt  May 15, 2017 • 9:14:18am

re: #321 Targetpractice

A face that asks “Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?”

“I have all the characteristics of a human being: blood, flesh, skin, hair; but not a single, clear, identifiable emotion, except for greed and disgust”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 15, 2017 • 9:14:32am

re: #322 ObserverArt

Until Trump starts taking actions that start hampering their bottom lines, and thus far he has done the precise opposite, they won’t turn against him.

A lot of those big companies are just as corrupt as this administration.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 9:14:35am

re: #324 FormerDirtDart

Political debate is now so toxic that Democrats readily accuse Republicans of wanting people to die. My new column:

The Ultimate Movie Spit-Take Mashup

2009, motherfucker, do you remember it?!

332
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 15, 2017 • 9:15:50am

re: #324 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

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FormerDirtDart  May 15, 2017 • 9:16:52am
334
HappyWarrior  May 15, 2017 • 9:17:36am

Republicans have called Dems every name in the book but oh no the GOP is being called out for not giving a shit about people without coverage.

335
HappyWarrior  May 15, 2017 • 9:18:38am

re: #333 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Be nice then if they could stop being so chummy with Assad’s patrons in a country beginning with R ending in A.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 9:20:13am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

Be nice then if they could stop being so chummy with Assad’s patrons in a country beginning with R ending in A.

The State Department diplomat went after Russia and Iran according to the NY Daily News article I quoted in my re: #308.

337
Eclectic Cyborg  May 15, 2017 • 9:20:50am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

Be nice then if they could stop being so chummy with Assad’s patrons in a country beginning with R ending in A.

Assad has ties to Romania?

////

338
FormerDirtDart  May 15, 2017 • 9:20:51am
339
FormerDirtDart  May 15, 2017 • 9:22:13am
340
HappyWarrior  May 15, 2017 • 9:22:37am

re: #337 Eclectic Cyborg

Assad has ties to Romania?

////

Rhodesia!

341
Targetpractice  May 15, 2017 • 9:24:28am

When your article starts with an obvious falsehood:

The anonymous comment sections of many publications are notorious for their incivility and malignant smears. But in the debate over replacing Obamacare with a Republican alternative, the American Health Care Act, the online trolls and fever-swamp fanatics have been hard to distinguish from mainstream politicians, journalists, and commentators.

Then you’re just talking to hear yourself talk. Trumpcare is not a “replacement,” because the GOP can’t pass a replacement through reconciliation. It’s the equivalent of a parasitic wasp using a caterpillar as a host for its young. The bill will hijack the ACA, gut it of its most important provisions, and then burst out into a full-blown horror that will be used in a year’s time to justify a full repeal.

342
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 9:24:45am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

Be nice then if they could stop being so chummy with Assad’s patrons in a country beginning with R ending in A.

Rhodesia? Ruwanda?

343
gocart mozart  May 15, 2017 • 9:25:18am
344
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 9:25:37am

re: #337 Eclectic Cyborg

Assad has ties to Romania?

////

I knew there was another candidate…

345
The Vicious Babushka  May 15, 2017 • 9:26:02am

re: #340 HappyWarrior

Rhodesia!

Rwanda or GTFO

346
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 9:26:54am

re: #339 FormerDirtDart

Milo Yiannopoulos scoops the Today Show on their interview with him by recording it, releasing it himself www.

that pathetic SOP deserves to be ignored by all media outlets until he dies of self-neglect

348
gocart mozart  May 15, 2017 • 9:27:42am
349
gocart mozart  May 15, 2017 • 9:28:52am
350
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 9:29:16am

re: #348 gocart mozart

she is a total babe, got give him that…

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HappyWarrior  May 15, 2017 • 9:29:36am

re: #339 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Just ignore the little bastard.

352
Stanley Sea  May 15, 2017 • 9:30:08am

Flipped on CNN the yam’s hair is not liking this windy ceremony.

353
HappyWarrior  May 15, 2017 • 9:30:49am

re: #348 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Being a creep is the first requirement for working for Trump.

354
HappyWarrior  May 15, 2017 • 9:31:33am

She’s an attractive young woman. Posting that photo as her Dad is creepy.

355
Dr. Matt  May 15, 2017 • 9:33:07am
356
FormerDirtDart  May 15, 2017 • 9:33:22am

You know they didn’t include the fossil saddle they found, it didn’t meet their liberal “facts & science” agenda…

357
gocart mozart  May 15, 2017 • 9:33:26am
358
Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 9:33:43am

Ah, poor Tim Allen, I didn’t hear his show got cancelled. I guess he can always go back to trafficking cocaine.

359
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 9:34:43am

re: #355 Dr. Matt

President Trump: The attacks on our police are “a stain on the very fabric on our society”

yes, they are veritable urine stains on the Moscow hotel bedclothes of our society…

360
I cannot.  May 15, 2017 • 9:34:55am
361
HappyWarrior  May 15, 2017 • 9:36:42am

re: #358 Timothy Watson

Ah, poor Tim Allen, I didn’t hear his show got cancelled. I guess he can always go back to trafficking cocaine.

I didn’t realize what a pathetic whiner that guy is. He’s not being blacklisted for his views, he’s just not entertaining.

362
GlutenFreeJesus  May 15, 2017 • 9:36:53am

re: #333 FormerDirtDart

This is why we need to end capital punishment. So long as we allow it, we have no right to criticize anyone else, regardless of the circumstances.

363
HappyWarrior  May 15, 2017 • 9:38:09am

re: #355 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

There’s this thing called the 1st amendment. Maybe he’s heard of it or maybe not since Russia doesn’t have one.

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Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 9:40:48am

re: #361 HappyWarrior

I didn’t realize what a pathetic whiner that guy is. He’s not being blacklisted for his views, he’s just not entertaining.

Apparently being ranked in the 50s-60s in annual ratings is “good ratings” nowadays.

Hell, the only reason I knew of the show was because Kaitlyn Dever, who got her break on Justified which I loved, was in it.

365
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 9:40:58am

re: #361 HappyWarrior

I didn’t realize what a pathetic whiner [Tim Allen] is. He’s not being blacklisted for his views, he’s just not entertaining.

I really only know him from Galaxy Quest, in which he plays a washed-up, egocentric alcoholic ex-TV star, and Flash Academy, in which he plays a washed up, egocentric former superhero…

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FormerDirtDart  May 15, 2017 • 9:41:00am
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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2017 • 9:41:10am

re: #342 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Rhodesia? Ruwanda?

Ruritania.

368
Sir John Barron  May 15, 2017 • 9:41:21am

re: #324 FormerDirtDart

Political debate is now so toxic that Democrats readily accuse Republicans of wanting people to die. My new column: bostonglobe.com

— Jeff Jacoby

“We need more fainting couches. My new column:”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 9:42:08am

re: #367 Decatur Deb

Ruritania.

Ruthenia!

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Sir John Barron  May 15, 2017 • 9:43:39am

re: #360 I cannot.

Remember “Death Panels”?

Good times

371
Targetpractice  May 15, 2017 • 9:43:51am

By the way, I love how “serious” pundits are now not even bothering to defend Trumpcare on its merits, but instead attacking critics for their language.

372
GlutenFreeJesus  May 15, 2017 • 9:45:05am

re: #360 I cannot.

373
Sir John Barron  May 15, 2017 • 9:45:32am

re: #371 Targetpractice

By the way, I love how “serious” pundits are now not even bothering to defend Trumpcare on its merits, but instead attacking critics for their language.

GOP 2010: Obamacare has Death Panels!

Pundits: Maybe not true but very serious argument that needs to be taken seriously, nonetheless

Dems 2017: Taking healthcare away will kill people.

Pundits: This is very uncouth language and we cannot abide it.

374
FormerDirtDart  May 15, 2017 • 9:45:34am

Crap, this can only help Geert Wilders

375
jaunte  May 15, 2017 • 9:46:29am

re: #324 FormerDirtDart

Political debate is now so toxic that Democrats readily accuse Republicans of wanting people to die.

Republicans arguing the critical, essential difference between actively wanting people to die, and actively pursuing policies that will have that effect.

376
The Major  May 15, 2017 • 9:47:41am

re: #151 Romantic Heretic

maTGM08JQ5w2tA+axAryIacuT6CTIhz/jLAUO7ADO/vK9CqtRNLPOttdWGZlUD4+qOTSQVVHPYU2fNeRhhF2dVM3AzVjG7AaknEtGs17ayWYGj+97VMYW1yI2DDYY1XoqMjduqX5xQ8=

377
Sir John Barron  May 15, 2017 • 9:47:49am

May 15, 2017.

I have to admit I’m surprised the country hasn’t imploded from gross incompetence yet.

But it’s still early.

378
Decatur Deb  May 15, 2017 • 9:49:12am

re: #369 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ruthenia!

molossia.org

379
Belafon  May 15, 2017 • 9:49:34am

re: #374 FormerDirtDart

Crap, this can only help Geert Wilders

When was that election? I doubt, given the results of the French election, that this will help him any. The Dutch still won’t want to become the US.

380
Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 9:49:49am

re: #377 Sir John Barron

May 15, 2017.

I have to admit I’m surprised the country hasn’t imploded from gross incompetence yet.

But it’s still early.

Yeah, Trump still has a couple hours of “work” in him for today.

Oh, you meant on a much longer scale.

381
Belafon  May 15, 2017 • 9:50:31am

re: #377 Sir John Barron

May 15, 2017.

I have to admit I’m surprised the country hasn’t imploded from gross incompetence yet.

But it’s still early.

It won’t. We’ve got too many competent people around.

382
Timothy Watson  May 15, 2017 • 9:55:28am

Trump’s FBI pick? We know he loves stupid nicknames like “Mad Dog” Mattis:

HENRY E. HUDSON

Hudson is a federal judge in Richmond who earned praise from conservatives when he struck down the centerpiece of the Obama administration’s health care law in 2010. He is a George W. Bush appointee who earned the nickname “Hang ‘Em High Henry” for his tough-on-crime stand as a federal prosecutor and on the bench. He became a hero to animal rights activists when he sentenced NFL star Michael Vick to nearly two years in prison in 2007 for running a dogfighting ring.

richmond.com

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2017 • 9:57:06am

re: #381 Belafon

It won’t. We’ve got too many competent people around.

Fairly early in their careers, bureaucrats discover that it’s very, very hard to make something good (or bad) happen. But it’s rather easy to keep something bad (or good) from happening.

384
Belafon  May 15, 2017 • 10:00:35am

re: #382 Timothy Watson

Trump’s FBI pick? We know he loves stupid nicknames like “Mad Dog” Mattis:

richmond.com

And what will this guy do when he see’s the evidence that caused Comey to ask for more “resources”?

385
The Major  May 15, 2017 • 10:02:44am

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Romantic Heretic  May 15, 2017 • 10:09:01am

re: #385 Eric The Fruit Bat

I am saying extremely rude words quite loudly now. The GOP really doesn’t understand the concept of freedom.

They sure do love their power though.

387
Belafon  May 15, 2017 • 10:15:49am

re: #385 Eric The Fruit Bat

This was discussed here: #236. Maybe she should run against him: “Frelinghuysen believes you should be punished for criticizing him.”

388
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2017 • 10:17:55am
389
freetoken  May 15, 2017 • 10:18:18am

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

The volcano that could.

390
Skip Intro  May 15, 2017 • 10:21:03am

re: #315 wheat-dogg

When you’ve lost Jennifer Rubin …

It doesn’t matter one little bit. He’ll always have Republican State TV and they’ve got a hell of a lot bigger audience than Rubin.

391
William Lewis  May 15, 2017 • 10:28:46am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

His face really is so fucking punchable:

[Embedded content]

Punching Nazi’s is an American’s patriotic duty.

392
Targetpractice  May 15, 2017 • 10:34:51am

I will note that it seems a lot of the “serious” wingnuts who were #NeverTrump six months ago are slowly gravitating back that way as he becomes absolutely toxic to conservative politics. Those months of “Maybe he’ll be good for us” are gonna be the “the Iraq War will totally work out” of conservatives in 4 years.

393
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2017 • 10:35:02am
394
I cannot.  May 15, 2017 • 10:35:42am

re: #391 William Lewis

Also, should a Nazi be punched by someone other than you, it is also your patriotic duty to have not seen or heard anything.

395
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2017 • 10:39:24am

re: #394 I cannot.

Also, should a Nazi be punched by someone other than you, it is also your patriotic duty to have not seen or heard anything.

It is your patriotic duty to offer first aid to the assailant in case he hurt his hand in doing so…

396
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2017 • 10:39:53am
397
lawhawk  May 15, 2017 • 10:42:07am

re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, but after he was elected Trump said the same thing. His campaign website said the same thing after he was elected and was only scrubbed after someone realized that it might be used against them in a court of law (but hey, the Internet is forever, so nice try trying to hide your discriminatory intent).

398
gocart mozart  May 15, 2017 • 10:43:37am
399
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2017 • 10:43:43am

Wall, the DoJ lawyer defending Trump’s ban, is pretty much useless (and an embarrassment to lawyers everywhere).

400
Interesting Times  May 15, 2017 • 10:44:56am

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wall, the DoJ lawyer defending Trump’s ban, is pretty much useless (and an embarrassment to lawyers everywhere).

Wait, that’s literally his name? I swear 2017 is trying to vindicate bad, outlandish, over-the-top fiction forever… o_O

401
Belafon  May 15, 2017 • 10:45:59am

re: #400 Interesting Times

Wait, that’s literally his name? I swear 2017 is trying to vindicate bad, outlandish, over-the-top fiction forever… o_O

I wonder if his partner, Stone, was there today? //

402
Eclectic Cyborg  May 15, 2017 • 10:46:06am

re: #400 Interesting Times

Wait, that’s literally his name? I swear 2017 is trying to vindicate bad, outlandish, over-the-top fiction forever… o_O

“Your honor, tear down this wall!”

403
BeachDem  May 15, 2017 • 10:49:07am

re: #314 Timothy Watson

Damn, Jennifer Rubin’s on point (emphasis in original):

washingtonpost.com

Just two problems:

Assuming Nikki Haley ever had a “way” or an “idea” and assuming Lindsey is “better” because he seems somewhat rational when he’s on teevee.

404
Hecuba's daughter  May 15, 2017 • 10:49:53am

re: #295 Dr. Matt

It looks like that raging radical far-left MSNBC is looking to fire one of their few actual liberals, Lawrence O’Donnell. Go figure.

So — who does a normal person contact to protest their decision? Is there an email or a phone number?

405
Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  May 15, 2017 • 10:50:52am

It’s a Monday morning, thus I know it’s a little early to inflict the Rage Furby on you all, but Jesus, this was the first item in my email feed this morning and I had to fricken page it:

Trump tears apart his White House staff based on story by Charles C Johnson

And now I see that he’s looking at firing Spicer & Bannon & maybe Priebus.
Wonder what article by the Rage Furby he read that told him to do that?

406
BeachDem  May 15, 2017 • 10:51:37am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

His face really is so fucking punchable:

[Embedded content]

407
ericblair  May 15, 2017 • 10:51:39am

re: #363 HappyWarrior

There’s this thing called the 1st amendment. Maybe he’s heard of it or maybe not since Russia doesn’t have one.

Sure they do. Article 29. Thing is, the Russian government doesn’t give a shit about the constitution. They arrested protestors who did nothing but recite the constitution, so there you go.

408
I cannot.  May 15, 2017 • 10:54:25am

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

Any appropriately snarky and/or vulgar people liveblogging that?

409
Sir John Barron  May 15, 2017 • 10:58:01am

re: #387 Belafon

This was discussed here: #236. Maybe she should run against him: “Frelinghuysen believes you should be punished for criticizing him.”

RINGLEADER!!!!!!!!!!11

410
ObserverArt  May 15, 2017 • 11:01:26am

re: #392 Targetpractice

I will note that it seems a lot of the “serious” wingnuts who were #NeverTrump six months ago are slowly gravitating back that way as he becomes absolutely toxic to conservative politics. Those months of “Maybe he’ll be good for us” are gonna be the “the Iraq War will totally work out” of conservatives in 4 years.

I don’t know…that sounds kind of hopeful and all.

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