Trump Sent Message to Flynn as He Was Being Investigated: “Stay Strong”

Bad news day for orange president
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The big news keeps coming, and it’s all bad for Pumpkin Pinochet.

The Trump transition team knew Michael Flynn was under investigation weeks before the inauguration, which makes a liar out of Mike Pence, since he was in charge of the transition team.

Flynn and other Trump campaign officials had at least 18 undisclosed contacts with Russian officials during the last 7 months of the campaign.

And last but not least, even after Trump fired Michael Flynn he remained in contact — at one point sending him a message telling him to “stay strong.”

Saddled with steep legal bills, Flynn wanted to reconnect with old friends and talk about potential future business opportunities. But one overriding question among those present were his views on the president who had fired him from his national security advisor post.

Flynn left little doubt about the answer. Not only did he remain loyal to President Trump; he indicated that he and the president were still in communication. “I just got a message from the president to stay strong,” Flynn said after the meal was over, according to two sources who are close to Flynn and are familiar with the conversation, which took place on April 25.

Even some Republicans are now starting to whisper the word “impeachment.” But with the revelation that the transition team knew Flynn was being investigated, if Trump does end up being impeached Mike Pence cannot be allowed to simply take his place. This whole gang of villains is corrupt.

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425 comments

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freetoken  May 18, 2017 • 12:34:43pm

Is this a hidden plea for Flynn to not flip on him?

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makeitstop  May 18, 2017 • 12:35:41pm

re: #1 freetoken

Is this a hidden plea for Flynn to not flip on him?

That’s how I take it - ‘no snitching.’

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Major Tom  May 18, 2017 • 12:36:12pm

re: #1 freetoken

Is this a hidden plea for Flynn to not flip on him?

What’s hidden about it?

;)

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Ace-o-aces  May 18, 2017 • 12:36:32pm

It’s almost like electing a man with no political experience to the presidency was a bad idea.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 18, 2017 • 12:36:45pm

Well. Flynn isn’t complying with the subpoena….

And yes. The whole lot need to go. Only one option I see. Let the runners-up take charge until 2020… Clinton/Kaine

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 12:40:38pm

re: #4 Ace-o-aces

It’s almost like electing a man with no political experience to the presidency was a bad idea.

Trump having no political experience is not the issue.

Trump being Fuckface von Clownstick is the issue, as well as his being a corrupt Rodent of Unusual Size (even for Republicans).

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451_Montag  May 18, 2017 • 12:40:41pm

Just got in.

About Roger Ailes. I’m not going to speak ill of the dead.

But has anyone checked whether they drove a stake through his fucking heart to make sure?

Or any appropriate organ if they couldn’t find it?

That man has done more peacetime damage in living history

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 12:41:05pm

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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 12:41:46pm

re: #5 GlutenFreeJesus

Well. Flynn isn’t complying with the subpoena….

And yes. The whole lot need to go. Only one option I see. Let the runners-up take charge until 2020… Clinton/Kaine

Retroactively get rid of the electoral college.

Can’t do that.

See if we can impeach him before he takes the Nixon way out.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 12:43:57pm
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:44:45pm

starherald.com
US Releases Two Turkish Bodyguards After Violence (goes to the Scottsbluff, NE Star-Herald)

The United States says it released two members of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s (REH’-jehp TY’-ihp UR’-doh-wahns) security detail after briefly detaining them during a violent incident outside the Turkish ambassador’s residence in Washington.

The State Department also says that it summoned Turkish Ambassador Serdar Kilic to discuss the altercation. The department says the ambassador met Wednesday with Tom Shannon, the acting deputy secretary of state and highest-ranking career U.S. diplomat.

The U.S. is declining to say whether the security agents were granted diplomatic immunity or under what conditions they were released.

The U.S. says there’s an ongoing investigation that will allow the U.S. “to hold the responsible individuals accountable.”

Video appears to show Erdogan’s bodyguards violently breaking up a protest this week while Erdogan was visiting Washington.

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calochortus  May 18, 2017 • 12:46:14pm

FR still down. JimRob’s update on Facebook:

Received a two part message from John. The first part went into some of the horror stories of procurement, replacement and recovery but he ended it upbeat. Sounds like he’s making great progress. Says he’s going to go up to San Jose and purchase some additional equipment then he should be ready to install. And he says installation should be straightforward as the drive is pre-loaded and ready to go. The only thing he left off was the timing and I haven’t heard back from him on that yet. Oops, he just responded to my question if we were going to be up today.. Said it depends on how many unexpected problems like he had yesterday pop up. Prayers up!

First, I don’t understand all this back and forth to San Jose, but more importantly, he’s been sending “prayers up!” for about 3 days now, and it has been ineffective. Possibly some decent hosting and tech support are in order rather than relying on the Almighty?

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:47:15pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

Glad to see my senator is standing up for the press.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 12:47:19pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 12:47:34pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

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calochortus  May 18, 2017 • 12:47:39pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

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Ben Sasse seems interested in coming out of this as a person of integrity and a rising star. He’s everywhere, appearing rational.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 12:48:14pm

re: #5 GlutenFreeJesus

Well. Flynn isn’t complying with the subpoena….

And yes. The whole lot need to go. Only one option I see. Let the runners-up take charge until 2020… Clinton/Kaine

That is no more going to happen than McCain replacing Obama in birther fantasies. If Mueller comes up with the evidence that both Pence and Trump committed impeachable offenses, and they are both removed, then we get President Ryan.

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whitebeach  May 18, 2017 • 12:48:37pm

re: #1 freetoken

Is this a hidden plea for Flynn to not flip on him?

No, it’s a reminder to keep up his gym membership.

Of course it’s a plea. It can be phrased more completely as, “Don’t say a word, and I’ll give you a full pardon and lots of money later.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 12:48:58pm
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:49:06pm

re: #12 calochortus

FR still down. JimRob’s update on Facebook:

First, I don’t understand all this back and forth to San Jose, but more importantly, he’s been sending “prayers up!” for about 3 days now, and it has been ineffective. Possibly some decent hosting and tech support are in order rather than relying on the Almighty?

Maybe the Almighty is answering prayers, and the answer to Free Republic is “no.” Isn’t that what wingnut Christians use when prayers seem to fail?

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 12:49:53pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That is one happy looking lizard!

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Nyet  May 18, 2017 • 12:49:53pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

Or both.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 12:50:32pm

this is…not good…

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:51:27pm

re: #16 calochortus

Ben Sasse seems interested in coming out of this as a person of integrity and a rising star. He’s everywhere, appearing rational.

I predicted last February when he made his Facebook post reprinted in every newspaper in the state that he could never support Donald Trump, he foresaw the likely fallout and was positioning himself to be a sane member of the GOP with the intent of rising in the party.

Before politics, Senator Sasse was a professor of history.

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Nyet  May 18, 2017 • 12:52:19pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 12:52:34pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

Basically every new revelation makes Mike Pence either a) irresponsible and a liar or b) out of the loop and a dupe.

EXACTLY the qualities we want in a President!!!!
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 12:52:45pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is…not good…

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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 12:53:41pm

re: #9 wrenchwench

Retroactively get rid of the electoral college.

Can’t do that.

See if we can impeach him before he takes the Nixon way out.

Trump had no honor. The only way he’s going is forcibly. He won’t resign. Heck, he might not even go gently into the night if he’s impeached.

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calochortus  May 18, 2017 • 12:54:09pm

re: #24 Anymouse

Before politics, Senator Sasse was a professor of history.

That explains a lot.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:54:11pm
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freetoken  May 18, 2017 • 12:54:26pm

My guess is that Sasse is trying to position himself as the next leader of the Republican party.

Which may happen sooner rather than later, if the entire current lot are run out of office or end up in prison.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 12:54:35pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

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Malcolm there has a big problem with that first amendment thing I see like many conservatives do. Good for Sasse though. I’ll give the guy this. He has been consistent in being anti Trump. Maybe he can be part of a new sane GOP in a post Trump US.

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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 12:56:02pm

re: #28 MsJ

Trump had no honor. The only way he’s going is forcibly. He won’t resign. Heck, he might not even go gently into the night if he’s impeached.

He needs to be convinced that resigning is ‘just like declaring bankruptcy’. Screws everybody else and gets him more time on the golf course(s).

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Jack Burton  May 18, 2017 • 12:56:23pm

re: #9 wrenchwench

Retroactively get rid of the electoral college.

Can’t do that.

See if we can impeach him before he takes the Nixon way out.

After Clownstick is finally out, we make a 50 state push for the 28th Amendment, eliminating the electoral college, and perhaps a codification in the constitution of the VRA so the court cannot fuck with it.

I was a defender of the EC, regardless of the primary reason for it being outdated. The secondary reason was valid and it failed to do that job and spare us this mess. So it’s worthless and needs to go.

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Stanley Sea  May 18, 2017 • 12:57:27pm

He did this the other day before the NYT story

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 12:57:38pm

Meanwhile, my wingnut Senator studiously avoiding anything mentioning the administration:

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 12:58:01pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

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Now Ben Sasse is the enemy.

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Archangelus  May 18, 2017 • 12:59:44pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is…not good…

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 1:00:04pm

re: #35 Stanley Sea

He did this the other day before the NYT story

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I hope something’s Comeying, and that he’s not just being a dick dick dick dick dick…

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:00:37pm

re: #34 Jack Burton

After Clownstick is finally out, we make a 50 state push for the 28th Amendment, eliminating the electoral college, and perhaps a codification in the constitution of the VRA so the court cannot fuck with it.

I was a defender of the EC, regardless of the primary reason for it being outdated. The secondary reason was valid and it failed to do that job and spare us this mess. So it’s worthless and needs to go.

I’m guessing eliminating the EC won’t happen. Several proposed amendments have failed before. (The time to have gotten rid of it would have been right after the Civil War.)

Start counting small states that would lose power, when you get to thirteen the amendment fails.

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Nyet  May 18, 2017 • 1:00:40pm
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Jay C  May 18, 2017 • 1:00:51pm

re: #9 wrenchwench

Retroactively get rid of the electoral college.

Can’t do that.

See if we can impeach him before he takes the Nixon way out.

Almost makes one wish we still had the original Constitutional system where the runner-up in the Presidential election got to be VP.

An interesting scenario: President Fuckface von Clownstick Trump having all these problems: with VP Hillary hanging around the Senate (smiling, no doubt) and giving the occasional interview…..

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 1:00:52pm

What, SERIOUSLY?!?

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 1:01:41pm

re: #16 calochortus

Ben Sasse seems interested in coming out of this as a person of integrity and a rising star. He’s everywhere, appearing rational.

Keyword: Appearing.

I’ll wait for further developments before any firm declarations.

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Scottish Dragon  May 18, 2017 • 1:01:59pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 1:02:33pm
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Jack Burton  May 18, 2017 • 1:02:52pm

re: #12 calochortus

FR still down. JimRob’s update on Facebook:

First, I don’t understand all this back and forth to San Jose, but more importantly, he’s been sending “prayers up!” for about 3 days now, and it has been ineffective. Possibly some decent hosting and tech support are in order rather than relying on the Almighty?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 1:02:59pm

re: #43 Blind Frog Belly White

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 1:03:18pm

re: #40 Anymouse

I’m guessing eliminating the EC won’t happen. Several proposed amendments have failed before. (The time to have gotten rid of it would have been right after the Civil War.)

Start counting small states that would lose power, when you get to thirteen the amendment fails.

I would be in favor of keeping it but only if the electors represented the population of each state and not its number of congressional delegates and if it were only to kick in if no candidate received a majority of the popular vote.

I would not be in favor of a runoff election system as many nations have…one vote every two years is enough to ask of our overtaxed electorate.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:03:31pm

The most likely way to neuter the Electoral College would be the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (goes to Wikipedia).

The idea is since states are allowed to distribute their electoral votes any way they choose, each state enters into a compact that requires that state to cast all its EC votes for the popular vote winner nationally.

The compact comes into force when 270 electoral votes worth of states sign it into law.

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 1:03:37pm

re: #44 ObserverArt

Keyword: Appearing.

I’ll wait for further developments before any firm declarations.

Sasse is a Republican after all. Evidence is needed before assuming they can be reasonable.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 1:04:15pm

It’s only going to get worse

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 1:05:02pm

re: #50 Anymouse

The most likely way to neuter the Electoral College would be the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (goes to Wikipedia).

The idea is since states are allowed to distribute their electoral votes any way they choose, each state enters into a compact that requires that state to cast all its EC votes for the popular vote winner nationally.

The compact comes into force when 270 electoral votes worth of states sign it into law.

I agree that this is the practical way to get it done. However, the EC favors Republicans (despite Trump’s whining to the contrary), so I don’t see this happening.

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freetoken  May 18, 2017 • 1:05:04pm

re: #52 Dr. Matt

For what is there to “approve”???

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:05:11pm

*blink*

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 1:05:17pm

re: #52 Dr. Matt

It’s only going to get worse

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freetoken  May 18, 2017 • 1:05:22pm

Detest these asinine polls.

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EmmaAnne  May 18, 2017 • 1:05:53pm

re: #50 Anymouse

The most likely way to neuter the Electoral College would be the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (goes to Wikipedia).

The idea is since states are allowed to distribute their electoral votes any way they choose, each state enters into a compact that requires that state to cast all its EC votes for the popular vote winner nationally.

The compact comes into force when 270 electoral votes worth of states sign it into law.

It died in committee in Colorado this year (because the Republicans have a one member majority in the state Senate). We’ll get it through someday. Last I heard they are more than halfway there.

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calochortus  May 18, 2017 • 1:06:16pm

re: #54 freetoken

For what is there to “approve”???

The way he raised NY’s minimum wage? (from somewhere back in the previous thread, I think.)

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garzooma  May 18, 2017 • 1:06:19pm

Don’t forget Flynn’s role in protecting ISIS.

Slate has a good take on this:

One of Donald Trump’s main campaign themes was that, as president, he would quickly “bomb the shit out of,” “crush,” “destroy,” and “totally obliterate” ISIS. As it happens, before Trump took office, his predecessors in the Obama administration had spent months preparing plans to attack and seize ISIS’s capital—the Syrian city of Raqqa. All that Trump transition officials had to do to authorize the attack was approve the plan. But Trump’s team refused to do so and has not yet launched its own offensive. ISIS still holds Raqqa.
Also, in a total coincidence, the plan that Trump’s incoming administration rejected was vehemently opposed, for reasons of self-interest, by Turkey—aka the country that paid ex-National Security Adviser Michael Flynn $530,000 last year.

Get this part:

After a delay of four months—during which time Flynn was forced to resign for lying about his conversation with the ambassador from another foreign country that had paid him—the Trump administration ended up approving the Kurdish plan after all. For the time being, though, ISIS’s forces in Raqqa remain uncrushed and unobliterated. And, on Sunday, a group run by Ekim Alptekin will begin hosting its annual U.S-Turkey business conference in Washington—which, this year, has been moved from its previous location at the Ritz-Carlton to the Trump International Hotel.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:07:03pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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Jack Burton  May 18, 2017 • 1:07:26pm

re: #50 Anymouse

I would only support that if all 50 states got in on it, and they wont.

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EmmaAnne  May 18, 2017 • 1:07:28pm

re: #53 EPR-radar

I agree that this is the practical way to get it done. However, the EC favors Republicans (despite Trump’s whining to the contrary), so I don’t see this happening.

It will happen if we make it happen. Please don’t dismiss the hard work people are doing on this.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:08:04pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

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Uh huh Senator Maverick. Why don’t you go screw yourself. You can’t even stand up to Trump when he mocks your POW record, tough guy.

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 1:08:04pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

The wrong experience, but experience.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 1:08:39pm

re: #54 freetoken

For what is there to “approve”???

I LOVE TRUMP!! HE DRIVES THEM LIB’RULS AND RINOS AND MEDIA FOLKS CRAZY!!!!

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EmmaAnne  May 18, 2017 • 1:09:20pm

re: #62 Jack Burton

I would only support that if all 50 states got in on it, and they wont.

I don’t understand why you would take that position?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 1:09:46pm

re: #66 Blind Frog Belly White

I LOVE TRUMP!! HE DRIVES THEM LIB’RULS AND RINOS AND MEDIA FOLKS CRAZY!!!!

That’s pretty much it. Conservatives betrayed America for the lulz.

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makeitstop  May 18, 2017 • 1:09:59pm

re: #43 Blind Frog Belly White

What, SERIOUSLY?!?

Trump is telling aides he wants Flynn *back in the White House.

Sorry, Two Scoops. Not your call to make at this point.

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 1:10:11pm

re: #62 Jack Burton

I would only support that if all 50 states got in on it, and they wont.

Why? Once you get 270 EVs, it doesn’t matter.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:10:11pm

As for Lieberman. Unlike Comey and Mueller, he wasn’t a federal prosecutor and indeed he hasn’t been involved in prosecutions since he was the AG or Connecticut. He’s not the worst choice Trump could make but he’s not a good choice by any means. OF course, they’ll use the fact he was Gore’s running mate to claim that this is “bipartisan” even though Joe has been up the GOP’s ass since he supported McCain in 2008.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:10:47pm
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:11:24pm

re: #62 Jack Burton

I would only support that if all 50 states got in on it, and they wont.

A hypothetical here.

My state has a super-majority of Republicans in the Unicameral. For the sake of argument, Hillary Clinton took the popular vote here instead of Donald Trump.

The state legislature could still direct electors to vote for Donald Trump. That’s what we have now.

I have no problem with states like Mass., NY, Calif., &c (the states with the most people) signing on. One person one vote.

Small states like mine, and many others, want to retain their leverage. Wyo. has 520,000 people and gets the same two senatorial votes as California’s 30,000,000.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 1:11:36pm

Drump is having a joint press conference with the Colombian prez

abcnews.go.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:11:41pm
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:11:44pm

Wait so Trump seriously wants to bring Flynn back? Man this administration never ceases to amaze me.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 1:11:57pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 1:12:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:12:45pm

trump can have my chocolate when he pries it from my cold sticky hands…

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:12:53pm

re: #77 FormerDirtDart

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He doesn’t know a goddamned thing about MS-13. Just that Sessions told him a bunch of scary hombres were doing bad things.

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Ace-o-aces  May 18, 2017 • 1:13:17pm

For the last week, I’m constantly like, “I’ve gotta stop reading the news and get back to work.” but every 2 or 3 hours some other big story drops! I can’t keep up anymore. Trump needs to resign, if for no other reason, because we are all too fucking exhausted!

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:13:35pm

re: #78 FormerDirtDart

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He’s so fucking full of shit. I knew about MS-13 in the Bush years since they were responsible for the lone murder I can remember in my hometown. The victim was a guy who went to my high school.

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Nyet  May 18, 2017 • 1:13:38pm

re: #73 Anymouse

Small states like mine, and many others, want to retain their leverage. Wyo. has 520,000 people and gets the same two senatorial votes as California’s 30,000,000.

And that’s bad.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 1:14:13pm

There was a fly buzzing Drump! Where’s the Alex Jones freakout!?!

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 1:14:16pm

re: #40 Anymouse

I’m guessing eliminating the EC won’t happen. Several proposed amendments have failed before. (The time to have gotten rid of it would have been right after the Civil War.)

Start counting small states that would lose power, when you get to thirteen the amendment fails.

I have a theory to improve the US election system without abolishing the electoral college by incorporating proportional representation into Congressional and presidential elections are making the US into a multiparty system. This would result in the President being elected by Congress most of the time, making it more like a parliamentary system.

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sizzzzlerz  May 18, 2017 • 1:14:50pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is…not good…

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I, for one, welcome our new photo-bombing insect overlords!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 1:15:06pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hershey’s stock plunges….

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calochortus  May 18, 2017 • 1:15:43pm

re: #81 Ace-o-aces

For the last week, I’m constantly like, “I’ve gotta stop reading the news and get back to work.” but every 2 or 3 hours some other big story drops! I can’t keep up anymore. Trump needs to resign, if for no other reason, because we are all too fucking exhausted!

So true. I used wake up, log in and see what new horror had occurred overnight. Now I have to be at my computer at 2:30-3:00 pm PDT because that’s when all the stories break. I need a soothing week far, far away from Trump’s stupidity.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 1:17:09pm

Yes, now questions of the administrations ties to Russia is equivalent to birtherism according to the folks at “The Federalist”

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Charles Johnson  May 18, 2017 • 1:17:17pm
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:17:42pm

I really think it should be one person, one vote. Too bad for conservatives if large states like California are more Democratic in how they vote. The Republicans through their own actions are why CA is a bright blue state today. PS, I live in a purple state. But I really believe my vote should have the same meaning as someone in CA or VT.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:17:47pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

Wait so Trump seriously wants to bring Flynn back? Man this administration never ceases to amaze me.

Flynn must have some real dirt on Trump.

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 1:17:50pm

re: #85 Big Beautiful Door

I have a theory to improve the US election system without abolishing the electoral college by incorporating proportional representation into Congressional and presidential elections are making the US into a multiparty system. This would result in the President being elected by Congress most of the time, making it more like a parliamentary system.

You’re proposing rewriting the constitution. The two biggest reasons for our two party system are 1) winner take all, and 2) staggered elections.

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 1:18:41pm
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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 1:18:53pm

So, Donny wants Flynn back in the White House. Is it any clearer he is losing it? He has no clue what is going on around him. He is checking out with delusions.

I wanted him taken out of the White House in cuffs, escorted by Federal Police.

I am now thinking he will be lead out in a straight jacket, escorted by guys in white coats and taken to a hospital for the criminally insane.

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 1:19:11pm

Trump repeatedly claimed that unemployment was several times higher. Claimed BLS was lying/inventing bogus stats.

Trump spawn is a shameless liar, just like his corrupt dad.

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Nyet  May 18, 2017 • 1:19:14pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart

White House is becoming a Russian church? /

I understand that this is probably the easiest way to make the point visually, but Kremlin would have been more accurate.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 1:19:37pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart

Yes, now questions of the administrations ties to Russia is equivalent to birtherism according to the folks at “The Federalist”

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I must admit that the Russian part of that looks much nicer than the White House does.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 1:19:57pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

As for Lieberman. Unlike Comey and Mueller, he wasn’t a federal prosecutor and indeed he hasn’t been involved in prosecutions since he was the AG or Connecticut. He’s not the worst choice Trump could make but he’s not a good choice by any means. OF course, they’ll use the fact he was Gore’s running mate to claim that this is “bipartisan” even though Joe has been up the GOP’s ass since he supported McCain in 2008.

Which is why Johnny Maverick supports him.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:20:20pm

re: #85 Big Beautiful Door

I have a theory to improve the US election system without abolishing the electoral college by incorporating proportional representation into Congressional and presidential elections are making the US into a multiparty system. This would result in the President being elected by Congress most of the time, making it more like a parliamentary system.

Small states would oppose proportional representation. Wyoming would never allow California to have the equivalent representation it gets. The Senate is still two senators per state; to change that would require a Constitutional amendment (dead on arrival).

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Franklin  May 18, 2017 • 1:20:25pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

Christ, don’t do that! I was scrolling and saw a pic of Snoop and thought he passed too.

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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 1:21:01pm

re: #74 Dr. Matt

Drump is having a joint press conference with the Colombian prez

abcnews.go.com

They’re making me listen to George Stuffinenvelops. Oh, here we go…. Witch hunt.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 1:22:52pm

re: #99 ObserverArt

Which is why Johnny Maverick supports him.

Well, Johnny Maverick and Droopy Dog Lieberman were buds before that! McCain wanted him for VP, but the Pro-lifers went apeshit, so instead he picked…well, you know who.

I suspect Huckleberry Hound is a poor substitute for Droopy Dog, in McCain’s estimation.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 1:22:59pm
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:23:06pm

When Sherman came up with the Great Compromise, the disparity in sizes between the states was nowhere close to what it is now. Anyhow, I support one man vote for the reasons why I said and it does work in other countries. It’s not like we’re the only nation that is divided in to states. Other countries have things like states, counties, provinces, etc.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 1:23:15pm

re: #93 Belafon

You’re proposing rewriting the constitution. The two biggest reasons for our two party system are 1) winner take all, and 2) staggered elections.

No, that’s the beauty of it, the Constitution doesn’t have to be amended at all. Nothing in it requires single member congressional districts, or that state electors be assigned winner-take-all. In fact I’m pretty sure the Founders intended Congress to elect the President most of the time.

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Charles Johnson  May 18, 2017 • 1:23:20pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 1:23:36pm

Wow, Josh Brolin got screwed…
//

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:23:39pm

re: #104 Dr. Matt

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He hasn’t passed a damned thing in regards to jobs.

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451_Montag  May 18, 2017 • 1:23:40pm

Just heard something from Trump’s first answer about collusion.

Paraphrase “There was no collusion between my campaign, and myself, well I can only speak for myself, there was no collusion”.

He said it quickly, but watch, there’s a real little smirk thrown out.

He’s definitely going for the “Throwing everyone else under the bus” defence.

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 1:23:51pm

re: #92 Anymouse

Flynn must have some real dirt on Trump.

I doubt that’s it. Flynn is a retired General and an early ass kisser of Trump’s. Flynn was there with him on the road, defending him and attacking Hillary in speech after speech. In Trump’s view that combination of military gravitas and personal ingratiation makes Flynn a good guy and valuable ally. Add to that the fact that Flynn’s sins, doing whatever it took to get paid even if by hostile foreign governments, aren’t sins in Trump’s business worldview.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:23:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:26:04pm

re: #110 451_Montag

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 1:26:10pm

re: #106 Big Beautiful Door

No, that’s the beauty of it, the Constitution doesn’t have to be amended at all. Nothing in it requires single member congressional districts, or that state electors be assigned winner-take-all. In fact I’m pretty sure the Founders intended Congress to elect the President most of the time.

The Supreme Court ruled sometime last century that all representation except for the US Senate requires proportional representation.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:26:11pm

re: #108 FormerDirtDart

Wow, Josh Brolin got screwed…
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He’s played a spoof of him before I believe. Funny since I think Dennis has also played Bill Clinton.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 1:26:17pm

re: #100 Anymouse

Small states would oppose proportional representation. Wyoming would never allow California to have the equivalent representation it gets. The Senate is still two senators per state; to change that would require a Constitutional amendment (dead on arrival).

I know that; I was talking about the House of Representatives. We can’t do anything about the Senate without amending the Constitution. But at least Senators are elected at-large, so they can’t be gerrymandered safe districts.

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uncah91  May 18, 2017 • 1:26:59pm

I know I’m mostly a lurker, but…

Re: The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

I know this is a popular idea, I think it becomes very difficult to carry off. The rubber meets the road on this the first time a state assigns its electors a different way than the population of the state did. I’m not sure how well it would survive that (politically).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:27:17pm
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:27:22pm

re: #106 Big Beautiful Door

No, that’s the beauty of it, the Constitution doesn’t have to be amended at all. Nothing in it requires single member congressional districts, or that state electors be assigned winner-take-all. In fact I’m pretty sure the Founders intended Congress to elect the President most of the time.

So the Nebraska state delegation in the House (three votes) or the Senate (two votes) always votes for the (R) candidate no matter whether the (D) candidate gets the popular vote or no.

And while the Constitution doesn’t require single-member districts, the same argument applies: The small states are not going to allow a change in make up of the House, and the Senate still gets two Senators per state regardless of population.

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Charles Johnson  May 18, 2017 • 1:27:26pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

I doubt that’s it. Flynn was a General and an early ass kisser of Trump’s. Flynn was there with him on the road, defending him and attacking Hillary in speech after speech. In Trump’s view that combination of military gravitas and personal ingratiation makes Flynn a good guy and valuable ally. Add to that the fact that Flynn’s sins, doing whatever it took to get paid even if by hostile foreign governments, aren’t sins in Trump’s business worldview.

Flynn is also a lot like Trump in that he’s a deranged conspiracy theorist who parrots every bullshit fake story that comes out of the right.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 18, 2017 • 1:27:32pm

re: #43 Blind Frog Belly White

What, SERIOUSLY?!?

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“Daddy, SAVE ME!!!”

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:28:09pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hahahahha yeah you hate divisiveness. That’s why you questioned the birth place of teh last elected President. Go home, Donald, you’re drunk.

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Ace Rothstein  May 18, 2017 • 1:28:34pm

“Walls work. Just ask Israel.” -FUCKFACE

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 1:29:30pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ace-o-aces  May 18, 2017 • 1:29:43pm

This is the stupidest take on the events in Times Square. Are wingnuts really astonished by the fact that there could be two fatal car accidents in NYC in one day?

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:29:57pm

re: #123 Ace Rothstein

“Walls work. Just ask Israel.” -FUCKFACE

East Germany had no comment since they’re you know gone. And fuck him for likening Mexican immigrants to terrorists.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 1:30:06pm

re: #114 Belafon

The Supreme Court ruled sometime last century that all representation except for the US Senate requires proportional representation.

Meaning that all House Districts in a state have to have approximately the same population. I’m talking about having multi-member districts to end the scourge of gerrymandering.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 1:30:37pm

re: #125 Ace-o-aces

I’m blocked by this idiot. Must have said something true to him.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:30:40pm

re: #125 Ace-o-aces

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This is the stupidest take on the events in Times Square. Are wingnuts really astonished by the fact that there could be two fatal car accidents in NYC in one day?

They’re too busy shitting on urban elites to realize how big our cities actually are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:31:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:32:09pm
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:32:10pm

re: #125 Ace-o-aces

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This is the stupidest take on the events in Times Square. Are wingnuts really astonished by the fact that there could be two fatal car accidents in NYC in one day?

New York City has a population 4.5 times my entire state.

I’m guessing we have more than two fatal accidents a day here, and in most of the state there is nothing to hit other than cattle.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:32:11pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Got a mouse in your pocket there Donnie? Impeachment may be the least of your worries at some point.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 18, 2017 • 1:32:13pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cocoa? Someone tell him it’s cacao!

Portlandia s01e02 - Cacao bit

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:32:31pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So are you Donald.

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bratwurst  May 18, 2017 • 1:32:46pm

“Even my enemies have said there is no collusion”.

I consider myself your enemy, Donny…and I certainly haven’t said that.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 18, 2017 • 1:32:52pm

re: #119 Anymouse

So the Nebraska state delegation in the House (three votes) or the Senate (two votes) always votes for the (R) candidate no matter whether the (D) candidate gets the popular vote or no.

And while the Constitution doesn’t require single-member districts, the same argument applies: The small states are not going to allow a change in make up of the House, and the Senate still gets two Senators per state regardless of population.

Well Senators don’t vote on the President. And if Congress selects the President, the small states have a lot of leverage because each state gets one vote. Nebraska would have the same voting power as California.

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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 1:33:19pm

Taxes, Obamacare, Jobs. No collusion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:33:46pm

good feckin grief

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Dave In Austin  May 18, 2017 • 1:34:03pm

re: #138 wrenchwench

Taxes, Obamacare, Jobs. No collusion.

Unhinged……

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Nyet  May 18, 2017 • 1:34:13pm

re: #134 GlutenFreeJesus

Какао (ко ко ко)

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:34:15pm

He’s a fucking mad.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:34:21pm

re: #137 Big Beautiful Door

Well Senators don’t vote on the President. And if Congress selects the President, the small states have a lot of leverage because each state gets one vote. Nebraska would have the same voting power as California.

Which goes back to the issue of red states: There are more of them than blue states, even though there are fewer people. That would result in a permanent (R) presidency.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 1:34:23pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

He’s played a spoof of him before I believe. Funny since I think Dennis has also played Bill Clinton.

Yeah, his character in American Dreamz was “Bush-ish” and he played Clinton in The Special Relationship.
Not sure how he’s gonna play Obama…
//

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451_Montag  May 18, 2017 • 1:34:39pm

re: #138 wrenchwench

Taxes, Obamacare, Jobs. No collusion.

Well I’m reassured and relieved then.

/// If needed

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 1:34:47pm

What the flying fuck?

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 1:34:57pm

re: #123 Ace Rothstein

“Walls work. Just ask Israel.” -FUCKFACE

They’ve worked so well.

After the wall was built, Israelis dealt with the qassam war. When Israel developed Iron Dome, terrorists turned to things like stealing heavy construction equipment and ramming them down busy streets. No defense against that.

And then there’s the stabbing attacks too.

Not exactly foolproof. And the US-Mexico border isn’t an analog for the Arab-Israeli conflict.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:35:22pm
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:35:52pm

re: #144 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, his character in American Dreamz was “Bush-ish” and he played Clinton in The Special Relationship.
Not sure how he’s gonna play Obama…
//

Or Trump hahaha. I am glad someone else saw American Dreamz though. It wasn’t bad.

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 1:36:12pm
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:36:18pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:36:36pm
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:36:37pm

re: #150 lawhawk

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So does Vicente Fox.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 1:37:02pm

re: #134 GlutenFreeJesus

Cocoa? Someone tell him it’s cacao!

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I think he’s trying for “coca”.
Cacao is just raw chocolate.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:37:13pm

re: #146 Dr. Matt

What the flying fuck?

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He’s that stupid or he’s that crooked. Either way, too fucked up to be POTUS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:37:16pm
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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 1:37:47pm

re: #153 HappyWarrior

Fox is also way better at the Twitters than Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 1:37:48pm

re: #125 Ace-o-aces

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This is the stupidest take on the events in Times Square. Are wingnuts really astonished by the fact that there could be two fatal car accidents in NYC in one day?

it shows how desperately the fellow wants to see a large terror attack to distract from the DT investigations

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:37:51pm

re: #154 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I think he’s trying for “coca”.
Cacao is just raw chocolate.

well, yeah…we know that.
He does not.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:38:23pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And more stupid bragging. Because that’s what the Colombian President cares about. God this guy is the worst.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 1:38:34pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 18, 2017 • 1:38:47pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:39:28pm

b_sharp on Wrenchwench at the tail of the last thread:

re: #794 b_sharp

Well, you are one of the venerated LGF old timers. 2004 vintage.

Comparing Ms. Wench to wine? /s

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 1:39:48pm

“… House Speaker Paul Ryan hasn’t yet sent the bill to the Senate because there’s a chance that parts of it may need to be redone, depending on how the Congressional Budget Office estimates its effects. House leaders want to make sure the bill conforms with Senate rules for reconciliation, a mechanism that allows Senate Republicans to pass the bill with a simple majority. …”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:40:42pm

re: #164 FormerDirtDart

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

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451_Montag  May 18, 2017 • 1:40:49pm

I’m sort of really enjoying how he speaks.

He just threw out FARC just like a 13 year old kid do a presentation and suddenly remembers an important word. If he wasn’t such a psychopath with massive power it would be kind of cute.

At least in a 13 year old

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 1:40:52pm

I am going to rate our h*ck of a president.

-1,000,000/10

Would not touch with a ten foot pole held by a thick rubber gloved hand reaching from a full nuclear hazard suit.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 1:41:38pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 1:42:22pm
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Nyet  May 18, 2017 • 1:42:28pm

re: #167 ObserverArt

He is not a good man, ObserverBrent.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 1:42:44pm

Did he REALLY say this???

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:42:49pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’m guessing the GOP would have a harder time with a re-vote on the bill after constituents rose up in anger all over the nation.

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Ace-o-aces  May 18, 2017 • 1:43:04pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart

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451_Montag  May 18, 2017 • 1:44:04pm

re: #171 Dr. Matt

Did he REALLY say this???

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Yup

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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 1:44:10pm

re: #163 Anymouse

b_sharp on Wrenchwench at the tail of the last thread:

Comparing Ms. Wench to wine? /s

Did not hatch until 2005. And there was no registration before 2004, but there was an LGF. Confused yet? I can whine.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 1:44:35pm

re: #170 Nyet

He is not a good man, ObserverBrent.

Good dog bites bad man. Dogs know.

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bratwurst  May 18, 2017 • 1:44:48pm
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Ace-o-aces  May 18, 2017 • 1:45:06pm

re: #169 FormerDirtDart

You know, it’s not like Trump hasn’t been involved in a legal case before. You think he would know when to shut up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 1:45:30pm

re: #177 bratwurst

Betsy DeVos Wants to Kill a Major Student Loan Forgiveness Program

Of course she does.

Because it is immoral not to pay back what you owe…

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:45:37pm

re: #171 Dr. Matt

Did he REALLY say this???

Trump was always a jerk, but in the past he was a lucid jerk.

How long is the GOP going to let this go on? I’m thinking if we survive to the next election, the Dems better tie an aircraft carrier sized anchor against every GOP representative and senator still supporting him.

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 1:45:47pm

re: #175 wrenchwench

Did not hatch until 2005. And there was no registration before 2004, but there was an LGF. Confused yet? I can whine.

Registration began June 15, 2004. I know. I was there in the first class. But LGF was here long before that - going back to before 9/11/2001; I joined the fun 10/2001.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 18, 2017 • 1:46:14pm

I wouldn’t be too suprised to see Flynn flee to Russia and be granted asylum.

Our 35% Deplorables would then react with confusion mixed with glee- or whatever Fox News says they should be doing.

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Nyet  May 18, 2017 • 1:46:21pm

re: #176 ObserverArt

Nature knows./

Raw: Bald Eagle Attacks Trump During Photoshoot

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makeitstop  May 18, 2017 • 1:46:41pm

re: #170 Nyet

He is not a good man, ObserverBrent Absorber.

h*cked that up for you.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:46:48pm

re: #175 wrenchwench

Did not hatch until 2005. And there was no registration before 2004, but there was an LGF. Confused yet? I can whine.

Hehehe… . I can whine as well, even while drinking wine.

By my LGF vintage, I’m a bottle of Thunderbird.

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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 1:47:16pm

re: #181 lawhawk

Registration began June 15, 2004. I know. I was there in the first class. But LGF was here long before that - going back to before 9/11/2001; I joined the fun 10/2001.

Now there’s a venerated old timer.

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451_Montag  May 18, 2017 • 1:47:17pm

And CNN just noticed the only speaking for himself comment

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 1:47:56pm

re: #183 Nyet

Nature knows./

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So true, that.

Too bad so many humans can’t seem to get with nature.

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BlackPearl  May 18, 2017 • 1:48:15pm

re: #112 Anymouse

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Gowdy’s fixed his hair. It’s more generically elder statesman than whatever that mess was before.

(I’m sorry that I only post shallow comments. Usually I’m only reading when everyone else is asleep and have nothing useful to add. But I’m also curious about how much commenters and I think people are good-looking or not based on their political beliefs. Trying to look neutrally at Gowdy, ok, regular features, normal white guy coloring, the hair’s under control… he might look responsible on the news. Unfortunate.

Seriously, I had to ask my wingnut mom last month: “um, didn’t you notice That Man is orange?” Perceptions are political.)

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Nyet  May 18, 2017 • 1:49:21pm

re: #189 BlackPearl

Still looks like Voldemort on a bad day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:49:48pm

re: #189 BlackPearl

Gowdy’s fixed his hair. It’s more generically elder statesman than whatever that mess was before.

I noticed that the distinctive point at the top of his head is gone.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:50:05pm

Kewl. I have something in common with Neil deGrasse Tyson:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:51:16pm

heh

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 1:51:52pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:52:47pm

re: #192 Anymouse

Kewl. I have something in common with Neil deGrasse Tyson:

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MrBWS always does that.
And loudly yodels at the same time.

I rarely go grocery shopping with him.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 1:53:09pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 1:53:32pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

I noticed that the distinctive point at the top of his head is gone.

We talking about this guy?

BENGHAZII!!!!!!
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:53:46pm

Nonsto complaining. STupid hyperbole. I don’t want to see another interview with one of his moronic supporters again. You people flat out fell for a con man and until you stop blaming liberals for your problems, whatever sympathy I might have for you is nil especially compared wit hteh amount of good people you fucked over because you hated HRC and thought “we needed an outsider.”

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451_Montag  May 18, 2017 • 1:54:00pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Ok, that may be the single best tweet in history.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:54:12pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS always does that.
And loudly yodels at the same time.

I rarely go grocery shopping with him.

and the deli workers at Kroger will not stop encouraging that behavior….

:D

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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 1:55:07pm

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

and the deli workers at Kroger will not stop encouraging that behavior….

:D

Go, deli workers!

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jaunte  May 18, 2017 • 1:55:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:55:52pm
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:56:06pm

re: #202 jaunte

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Uh huh, that’s why you repeatedly trashed our last President and praied Russia’s. Face it, Donald, no one outside your pathetic cult believes you.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:56:22pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS always does that.
And loudly yodels at the same time.

I rarely go grocery shopping with him.

In Oklahoma, I jumped on the back of our grocery cart and rode it across a parking lot one day.

Some fellow told my wife “You need to get your teenager under control.”

She responded, “Today is his fiftieth birthday.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:56:26pm
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:56:47pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Only 492? i’m serious. Has he been honest about anything since he took office?

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Jack Burton  May 18, 2017 • 1:56:48pm

re: #202 jaunte

“Nobody doesn’t collude like I don’t. Nobody.”

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 1:56:50pm

re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:57:31pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

Only 492? i’m serious. Has he been honest about anything since he took office?

pretty sure that count took duplicate lies into consideration.

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Nyet  May 18, 2017 • 1:58:12pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

*spit*

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jaunte  May 18, 2017 • 1:58:19pm

“We’re going to collude so much, you’re going to be so sick and tired of colluding!”

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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 1:58:32pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Domestic violence? They always call it a ‘fall’. Oh, wait, that’s when the woman dies.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 1:59:09pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure that count took duplicate lies into consideration.

True, true. Seriously, he’s awful.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 1:59:10pm
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Ace-o-aces  May 18, 2017 • 1:59:15pm

WUT R TEH CHANCES OF AN OLD MAN DYING FROM A “FALL”????!!!!!!

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 1:59:38pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 2:01:11pm

“… Investigators on the House intelligence committees have obtained access to valuable data from the Treasury Department, a development that will open their doors to investigate possible connections between President Donald Trump’s business empire and Russians, CNN has learned.

Investigators received access to the financial data this week, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the development.

Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee told reporters Thursday that his committee also had gotten the Treasury Department data. …”

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jaunte  May 18, 2017 • 2:01:17pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 2:02:15pm

re: #209 ObserverArt

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jaunte  May 18, 2017 • 2:02:45pm

You can tell when he goes off script, with such flights of rhetoric as …”I mean really..”

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BlackPearl  May 18, 2017 • 2:03:19pm

re: #190 Nyet

You mean Draco Malfoy? Whose movie actor was a pretty kid and had an unfortunate adolescence. Also unfortunate in that I think (project?) that Rowling wanted to point out that evil could be pretty, which was undermined by said awkward adolescence.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 2:03:28pm

He has such a limited vocabulary. It to me shows how little he understands programs that the world faces.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 2:03:30pm

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

and the deli workers at Kroger will not stop encouraging that behavior….

:D

Has he ever come across the parking lots that have the buried wires that trigger the wheels on the cart to lock up?

Stores around Columbus started with those a few years back to prevent people walking off with a nice cart for home use.

First time I came across that I was pushing a CART at a pretty good clip as it was starting to rain. Yeah, I was smacked in the old mid-body pretty good.

And since I had backed into the parking space and was on the edge of the parking lot, the wire was buried at the front of the parking space. I was still 8 foot away from the hatch opening with a “dead” weight cart full of groceries. Not a happy customer that day.

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Nyet  May 18, 2017 • 2:03:43pm

re: #221 jaunte

The best orator since Cicero. The greatest!

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b.d.  May 18, 2017 • 2:04:00pm

re: #216 Ace-o-aces

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WUT R TEH CHANCES OF AN OLD MAN DYING FROM A “FALL”????!!!!!!

Musta been the same guys who off’ed Scalia.

//

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 2:04:10pm

re: #224 ObserverArt

Has he ever come across the parking lots that have the buried wires that trigger the wheels on the cart to lock up?

Stores around Columbus started with those a few years back to prevent people walking off with a nice cart for home use.

First time I came across that I was pushing a CART at a pretty good clip as it was starting to rain. Yeah, I was smacked in the old mid-body pretty good.

And since I had backed into the parking space and was on the edge of the parking lot, the wire was buried at the front of the parking space. I was still 8 foot away from the hatch opening with a “dead” weight cart full of groceries. Not a happy customer that day.

My favorite is when it did that 3 feet from the exit to the store.

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 2:04:29pm

All that beer for nothing….

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:04:45pm

re: #220 Blind Frog Belly White

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 2:04:48pm

re: #226 b.d.

Musta been the same guys who off’ed Scalia.

//

They have a thing for going after obese guys in their late 70’s.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 2:05:08pm

re: #228 Dr. Matt

All that beer for nothing….

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If you could call that piss they were drinking, beer.

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b.d.  May 18, 2017 • 2:05:27pm

re: #230 HappyWarrior

They have a thing for going after obese guys in their late 70’s.

It’s a pretty easy job, to be sure, but hey…

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Dave In Austin  May 18, 2017 • 2:05:38pm

re: #171 Dr. Matt

Did he REALLY say this???

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With my own ears. And he said it angrily.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 2:05:45pm

re: #224 ObserverArt

wow…I’ve not heard of that!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 2:05:48pm

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

When you spot something in your rear view mirror and have to pull over.

Then there are the ones that make you want to floor it….

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Stanley Sea  May 18, 2017 • 2:05:57pm

Welcomed by the WH

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 2:06:00pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m not saying Murdoch had Roger killed, but with the Skynews deal still needing approval there was a motive to bury the Ailes story, so to speak.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:06:01pm

re: #223 HappyWarrior

He has such a limited vocabulary. It to me shows how little he understands programs that the world faces.

I understand FARC and Colombia’s insurgency better, and I never aspired to the Presidency. I guess I realise presidentin’ is hard.

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Nyet  May 18, 2017 • 2:06:22pm

re: #222 BlackPearl

You mean Draco Malfoy?

I mean Voldemort. He doesn’t look anything like Draco to me.

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CongoJack  May 18, 2017 • 2:06:26pm

re: #177 bratwurst

Betsy DeVos Wants to Kill a Major Student Loan Forgiveness Program

Of course she does.

Oh great. Because my wife who put herself through college (Maters in Education), works for peanuts to teach kids in poverty and pays 1k a month in student loans because she is a “mooch.” I want to light the whole Republican party on fire and laugh as it burns.

I’m going to need a day to cool down. The only thing that will save me is everyone of these fuckwits being removed.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 2:07:23pm

re: #238 Anymouse

I understand FARC and Colombia’s insurgency better, and I never aspired to the Presidency. I guess I realise presidentin’ is hard.

He probably told President Santos about how great the Trump Tower, taco bowls are.

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 2:08:07pm

If we end up seeing the downfall of Trump’s presidency*, I think the largest contributing factor will be that Trump simply cannot stick consistently to a single lying story.

For example, the Comey firing wouldn’t have turned into nearly the stink bomb that it did if Trump hadn’t contradicted the administration cover story (aka ‘cover lie’) the first night after it was put out.

The entire RWNJ noise machine was perfectly prepared to sing in chorus from the ludicrous talking points that Comey was fired for mishandling the Clinton email investigation. At least half the media would have followed along, out of both-siderist desperation for a Republican lie that is even faintly plausible.

But no, Trump just had to shart all over that, bigly.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 2:08:24pm

re: #227 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My favorite is when it did that 3 feet from the exit to the store.

Ah yeah…the old curb side loading only. I think Kroger tried that at first and changed that quickly.

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BlackPearl  May 18, 2017 • 2:08:31pm

re: #239 Nyet

Huh. I always saw him more as the movie version of Malfoy. The striking coloring, and also he has a nose. ;)

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 2:08:32pm

re: #240 CongoJack

Oh great. Because my wife who put herself through college (Maters in Education), works for peanuts to teach kids in poverty and pays 1k a month in student loans because she is a “mooch.” I want to light the whole Republican party on fire and laugh as it burns.

I’m going to need a day to cool down. The only thing that will save me is everyone of these fuckwits being removed.

It really infuriates me how they treat people like this. DeVos of course is the ultimately Republican privilege baby. But hey the Dems are the out of touch ones. // Devos got that position because she gives the GOP tons of money not becaseu she knows a damn thing or cares about education.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 2:09:03pm

re: #243 ObserverArt

Ah yeah…the old curb side loading only. I think Kroger tried that at first and changed that quickly.

No, I wasn’t clear.

Three feet from the exit inside the store.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 2:09:14pm

re: #236 Stanley Sea

Welcomed by the WH

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no wonder the yam wants Flynn back in the WH…Flynn has been bought and paid for and Erdogan let him know that in no uncertain terms that he is collecting.

(yes, tinfoil take, but I’m tired of these asshats)

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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 2:09:44pm

re: #241 HappyWarrior

He probably told President Santos about how great the Trump Tower, taco bowls are.

Standards are so low, I find myself glad Trump said ‘FARC’ and not ‘fart’.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 2:09:56pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

wow…I’ve not heard of that!

That was for you to let the MrBWS know so he doesn’t launch himself over a cart some day.

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 2:09:58pm

re: #228 Dr. Matt

I might just die of laughter if the House GOP meatheads actually need a second vote to get their health care shit out of the House.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 2:12:49pm

re: #246 klys (maker of Silmarils)

No, I wasn’t clear.

Three feet from the exit inside the store.

Oh! Damn. That is draconian.

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Nyet  May 18, 2017 • 2:12:52pm

Forget the investigations. Trump wants an officially registered foreign agent back in the WH.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 2:13:09pm
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:13:36pm
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Bubblehead II  May 18, 2017 • 2:13:39pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 2:14:01pm

re: #252 Nyet

Forget the investigations. Trump wants an officially registered foreign agent back in the WH.

When I had you to myself
I didn’t want you around
Those pretty faces always made you
Stand out in a crowd
Then someone picked you from the bunch
One glance was all it took
Now it’s much too late for me
To take a second look
Oh, baby, give me one more chance
To show you that I love you
Won’t you please let me
Back in your heart
Oh, darling, I was blind to let you go
Let you go baby
Cause now since I see you it is all
I want you back
Yes, I do now
I want you back
Oo oo baby
I want you back
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
I want you back
Now now now now
Trying to live without your love
Is one long sleepless night
Let me show you girl
That I know wrong from right
Every street you walk on
I leave tear stains on the ground
Following the girl
I didn’t even want around.
(Let me…

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makeitstop  May 18, 2017 • 2:14:27pm

re: #242 EPR-radar

If we end up seeing the downfall of Trump’s presidency*, I think the largest contributing factor will be that Trump simply cannot stick consistently to a single lying story.

For example, the Comey firing wouldn’t have turned into nearly the stink bomb that it did if Trump hadn’t contradicted the administration cover story (aka ‘cover lie’) the first night after it was put out.

The entire RWNJ noise machine was perfectly prepared to sing in chorus from the ludicrous talking points that Comey was fired for mishandling the Clinton email investigation. At least half the media would have followed along, out of both-siderist desperation for a Republican lie that is even faintly plausible.

But no, Trump just had to shart all over that, bigly.

I was thinking the other day and realized that if Trump had been more subtle about the grift, he may well have gotten away with it.

But you can take the asshole out of New York and it makes no difference. Still an asshole, still feeling the need to rub everybody’s faces in all he was doing.

If he’d hired more people who knew how things actually work, they could have institutionalized a lot of his crimes without calling attention to them. But…no. Asshole’s gonna asshole.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 2:14:44pm

re: #246 klys (maker of Silmarils)

No, I wasn’t clear.

Three feet from the exit inside the store.

That’s when Courtesy Clerks like The Older Boy spring meander into action!

Funny thing about TOB and his job - the other day, he and I dropped by to pick up some groceries and get his schedule for the next week. He was wearing his usual black T-shirt and leather vest, with his long blond hair NOT tied back. Customers STILL approach him to ask where things are. And he always says, “Have a nice day, sir!”

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 2:14:49pm

re: #235 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve forgotten the details, but the all time and eternal winner in the “things you don’t want to see in the rear view mirror” contest is this:

a worm crawling across your eye (someone had picked up this pest on a recent tropical trip and had this story to tell )

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 2:15:29pm

re: #255 Bubblehead II

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well, I have no personal qualms about grabbing that tiny dick and twisting it bigly…

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austin_blue  May 18, 2017 • 2:15:48pm

The Orange Foolius has declared a war on cocoa, I see. Because of course he has.

And we have 45 minutes until the 5:00 EDT bombshell. Wapo or NYT, today?

Common boys and girls, make it a good one!

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Dr. Matt  May 18, 2017 • 2:16:29pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 2:16:55pm

re: #251 ObserverArt

Oh! Damn. That is draconian.

It was a malfunction, I think.

It was also still frustrating as all hell.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 2:17:11pm

re: #250 EPR-radar

I might just die of laughter if the House GOP meatheads actually need a second vote to get their health care shit out of the House.

Especially if, in the process of making the changes necessary to use reconciliation, they lose too many votes and can’t pass it…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 2:17:17pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 2:18:35pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He turned me into a newt!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 2:19:42pm

re: #266 Blind Frog Belly White

He turned me into a newt!

or a horny toad!

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:20:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 2:20:51pm
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451_Montag  May 18, 2017 • 2:20:52pm

re: #266 Blind Frog Belly White

He turned me into a newt!

He got better

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austin_blue  May 18, 2017 • 2:21:33pm

And today, Tornado Alley is firing off spikes:

forecast.weather.gov

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2017 • 2:21:50pm

re: #268 Anymouse

Another victory for the ProLIFErs…

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 2:22:45pm

Ah. The Brain Trust.

The guy who’s going to bring peace to the Middle East, reinvent government, and solve the opioid crisis, but forgot to mention his contacts with Russia, and the guy whose TV appearances were successfully used to prove the Travel Ban Not-A-Ban Ban was really just the Muslim Ban, and that Travel Ban 2.0 was the same thing, AND wrote the President’s ‘Outreach To Islam’ speech that I’m sure we’re all waiting breathelssly for.

Those guys.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:25:17pm

re: #272 Eclectic Cyborg

Another victory for the ProLIFErs

Pro-birthers. They don’t give a damn about life. Born, here’s your bootstraps. They don’t even care that much about foetuses (trying to defund things like pre-natal care).

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 2:26:00pm

I think NBC’s photo editor has had a rough week, and a little off his game today…

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piratedan  May 18, 2017 • 2:26:01pm

re: #228 Dr. Matt

and still no CBO score

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freetoken  May 18, 2017 • 2:28:12pm

re: #271 austin_blue

PDS:

spc.noaa.gov

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 2:28:22pm

That’ll hurt ad revenue…

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A Cranky One  May 18, 2017 • 2:28:38pm

Heh. A little something for the coders:

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 2:29:13pm

I flipped to MTP Daily and Katy Tur is in for Chuckles Todd…so way more watchable.

Jonathan Alter just said Trump has never been hesitant to cut ties and eject people.

He cited Roy Cohn as an example. He said Trump dropped Cohn and stayed away as soon as Cohn was diagnosed with AIDS. Never knew that one.

Then he equated it to Trump not being able to dissociate Flynn. He then said all the time he has followed Trump, the only two people he had never heard Trump bash and criticize are Flynn and Putin.

My summation. Trump owes both something to be determined.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 18, 2017 • 2:29:26pm

re: #177 bratwurst

Betsy DeVos Wants to Kill a Major Student Loan Forgiveness Program

Of course she does.

How else are they going to pay for major tax cuts for the wealthy? The rich Republicans all envy Trump because of his evading taxes and they want to be let into the club.

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freetoken  May 18, 2017 • 2:29:41pm

re: #271 austin_blue

radar.weather.gov

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 2:30:49pm

re: #271 austin_blue

And today, Tornado Alley is firing off spikes:

forecast.weather.gov

Saw weather forecasts earlier saying it was going to be bad for the mid-section of the U.S.

edit: Looked at maps…I see snow riding right on the backside of the storms. Not good, that is a very sudden drop in temp front.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 18, 2017 • 2:30:55pm

re: #272 Eclectic Cyborg

Another victory for the ProLIFErs…

Actually proFetus and anti anyone without money.

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austin_blue  May 18, 2017 • 2:32:36pm

re: #277 freetoken

PDS:

spc.noaa.gov

Northern end of the traditional kill zone, and that’s a particularly ominous description of the watch zone. That’s Super Outbreak language.

Strap in, Kansas.

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jaunte  May 18, 2017 • 2:35:19pm
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:36:04pm

Snow moving across the county to our west, still 47 degrees here.re: #282 freetoken

radar.weather.gov

Storms across Kansas as well, spreading toward eastern Nebraska. Rough day.
radar.weather.gov

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jaunte  May 18, 2017 • 2:36:50pm
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:39:44pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 2:40:11pm

re: #285 austin_blue

Northern end of the traditional kill zone, and that’s a particularly ominous description of the watch zone. That’s Super Outbreak language.

Strap in, Kansas.

News9 in OK has some decent coverage of the storms in there, with a bunch of chasers. They’re livestreaming.

I don’t know of a good equivalent for KS.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 2:40:41pm

That moment when your aunt shows up on your phone banking list.

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Stanley Sea  May 18, 2017 • 2:40:55pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 2:41:10pm

re: #291 HappyWarrior

That moment when your aunt shows up on your phone banking list.

Pfft, that just makes establishing the personal connection with the potential voter that much easier!

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 2:41:12pm

re: #288 jaunte

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When they say Alinsky, tehy mean liberal/left leaning Jews. ESpecially a bigot like Nugent.

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Bubblehead II  May 18, 2017 • 2:41:31pm

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, I have no personal qualms about grabbing that tiny dick and twisting it bigly…

Male thing you you know. A knee would also be acceptable.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 2:42:08pm

re: #293 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Pfft, that just makes establishing the personal connection with the potential voter that much easier!

Oh, it’s not awkward. It’s hilarious. One of my phone banking buddies got our state AG, Mark Herring one day. But yeah, in fact I just spent time with her daughters- my older cousins last Friday night.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 2:43:33pm

Vegas PD catch serial killer of homeless men

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dangerman  May 18, 2017 • 2:44:04pm

i still cant embed a tweet. ryan spox:

AshLee Strong @AshLeeStrong
While we’re setting the record straight: AHCA was posted online a month ago, went through 4 committees, & has been scored by CBO — twice.
10:05 AM - 6 May 2017

today:
Link to Bloomberg

House Speaker Paul Ryan hasn’t yet sent the bill to the Senate because there’s a chance that parts of it may need to be redone, depending on how the Congressional Budget Office estimates its effects

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 2:45:53pm

LOLOLOL
The internet would explode

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 2:46:33pm

re: #299 FormerDirtDart

LOLOLOL
The internet would explode

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But that would be AWESOME!!!!

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:46:41pm

Next county west of me now snowing.
forecast.weather.gov

Harrisburg is the alleged county seat of Banner County. Banner County has 690 people and has no incorporated villages or towns (Harrisburg is the only unincorporated town).

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 2:49:22pm

re: #299 FormerDirtDart

Can you imagine being a Trump staffer, after the last 10 days, watching the clock tick toward 6PM?

YouTube

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 2:54:28pm

If you want to actually learn something about meteorology of the severe storms and understanding the radar, here’s a nice live stream.

NIGHTLY WEATHERCAST - Thu 5/18/2017 - LIVE - HIGH RISK severe storm / tornadoes in Kansas

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piratedan  May 18, 2017 • 2:57:08pm

I never wanted to live in “interesting times” but I guess it does show that the GOP really does have loyalty and fealty to their core principals… it’s just incredibly sad that their core principals are racism, sexism, bigotry and sycophantic devotion to the rich.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  May 18, 2017 • 2:57:32pm

re: #282 freetoken

Damn. I have lots of family in and around Okla. City and they HATE this time of year. My aunt lost her home in the Bridge Creek tornado in 1999, and a cousin was in the elementary school that was hit a few years ago.

Little known fact for those who say “Why don’t they move somewhere else?”: When my aunt lost her home, she found out the hard way that her homeowners insurance would only pay 100% if she rebuilt on the same piece of land; if she chose to rebuild elsewhere she would only have received 60%. She rebuilt on the same piece of land but added a storm cellar.

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Bubblehead II  May 18, 2017 • 2:58:07pm

Night Lizards. Going to call it a day and crawl under my rock. It’s not so warm or comfortable, but it’s is a shelter. See you you in the A.M.

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austin_blue  May 18, 2017 • 2:58:26pm

re: #290 klys (maker of Silmarils)

News9 in OK has some decent coverage of the storms in there, with a bunch of chasers. They’re livestreaming.

I don’t know of a good equivalent for KS.

Try some of the Topeka stations:

stationindex.com

Spikes on the ground already and some of those storms are just massive. I count seven separate supercells in OK/KS right now and others are just growing explosively. This is a remarkably unstable air mass right now.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 2:59:26pm

Jerry Coyne of “Why Evolution Is True” playing magic balance fairy about liberals delighting in Roger Ailes death, citing a Huffington Post headline.

whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com

Yes, Roger Ailes was “politically challenged” and a sexual harasser to boot, but one senses unsavory glee in HuffPo’s headline announcing his sudden death, probably from a fall in the bathroom combined with other medical ailments. Still, I can’t find it in me to celebrate Ailes’s death the way HuffPo did:

(the headline is “Groper Gone”)

He then goes after other people in the same manner who died, closing with an attack on liberals.

I’m not quite sure why we’re reluctant to speak ill of the just deceased, given that many of them, like Ailes, were vile people; perhaps readers can weigh in with their hypotheses. All I know is that when I hear someone say “I’m glad he’s dead,” I think less of the speaker. My one exception was Christopher Hitchens’s funny and splenetic take on the death of Jerry Falwell.

HuffPo has literally gone insane, and the headline above shows both its frenetic and kneejerk Leftism as well as its total absence of genuine humor

He invites comments on his blog post. Perhaps someone should give him a few?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 3:00:26pm

re: #307 austin_blue

Try some of the Topeka stations:

stationindex.com

Spikes on the ground already and some of those storms are just massive. I count seven separate supercells in OK/KS right now and others are just growing explosively. This is a remarkably unstable air mass right now.

News9 has footage of one tornado on the ground right now, maybe two. Also impressive cloud images.

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 3:05:26pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good enough for me.

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 3:07:00pm

re: #308 Anymouse

Evil people like Roger Ailes need to be called out for what they have done. It seems pointless to suspend this necessary educational exercise for some indeterminate period of time after he died.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 3:09:04pm

re: #311 EPR-radar

Evil people like Roger Ailes need to be called out for what they have done. It seems pointless to suspend this necessary educational exercise for some indeterminate period of time after he died.

He was not a great public figure who deserves more than a nod and an acknowledgement of his passing and the fact that there are some people out there who will miss him…

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 3:09:05pm

re: #305 Flying Squirrel Girl

Damn. I have lots of family in and around Okla. City and they HATE this time of year. My aunt lost her home in the Bridge Creek tornado in 1999, and a cousin was in the elementary school that was hit a few years ago.

Little known fact for those who say “Why don’t they move somewhere else?”: When my aunt lost her home, she found out the hard way that her homeowners insurance would only pay 100% if she rebuilt on the same piece of land; if she chose to rebuild elsewhere she would only have received 60%. She rebuilt on the same piece of land but added a storm cellar.

That and people saying “why don’t you move elsewhere” because tornadoes, Republicans, whatever don’t seem to get that not everyone has that money.

Every time someone asks me why I don’t move my go-to answer is “you going to pay me to do it?” I sure as hell can’t afford to live in California or Massachusetts.

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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 3:09:19pm

re: #308 Anymouse

Jerry Coyne of “Why Evolution Is True” playing magic balance fairy about liberals delighting in Roger Ailes death, citing a Huffington Post headline.

whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com

(the headline is “Groper Gone”)

He then goes after other people in the same manner who died, closing with an attack on liberals.

He invites comments on his blog post. Perhaps someone should give him a few?

Coyne one of those ‘problem atheists’. He was also my brother’s advisor. He’s a good frog guy, but a bigot against Muslims, IIRC.

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austin_blue  May 18, 2017 • 3:11:24pm

re: #309 klys (maker of Silmarils)

News9 has footage of one tornado on the ground right now, maybe two. Also impressive cloud images.

Huge storms!

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 3:12:57pm

re: #311 EPR-radar

Evil people like Roger Ailes need to be called out for what they have done. It seems pointless to suspend this necessary educational exercise for some indeterminate period of time after he died.

As one comment there notes “I spoke ill of the man before he died and I see no reason to change that now.”

Roger Ailes was a cancer on both the body politic and journalism.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 3:13:26pm
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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 3:15:34pm

Here’s something to not look forward to. If Trump deviates from his script when talking about Islam in Saudi Arabia, he’ll probably start talking about his electoral college victory and how difficult that was for him to win.

This level of idiocy would be totally horrifying, but it is even worse to realize that it would be one of the most benign things that could happen after Trump goes off-script in that setting.

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 3:15:39pm

re: #281 Hecuba’s daughter

How else are they going to pay for major tax cuts for the wealthy? The rich Republicans all envy Trump because of his evading taxes and they want to be let into the club.

She also has ties to a student debt collection firm that she was supposed to sever to become EdSec, but with this band of thieves, who knows?

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 3:17:50pm

re: #319 Skip Intro

She also has ties to a student debt collection firm that she was supposed to sever to become EdSec, but with this band of thieves, who knows?

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if DeVos is into education policy as a way to implement a Cruella DeVille plan with children instead of dalmatian puppies.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 3:17:56pm

I seem to have absorbed de mortuis nil nisi bonum early on, because I feel constrained from saying anything about Ailes, but what I will say is that the testimonials coming from people he DIDN’T sexually harass reminds me of something I saw yesterday on David Frum’s Twitter feed:

Podhoretz is clinging to the slender reed of Hannity being a nice guy - in his experience - in the face of his continuing to do something abhorrent. We all do this - we excuse the grandmother who says horrible racist things because we love her, for example.

But really, at some point, you can’t do or say horrible things and still be a good person.

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Mattand  May 18, 2017 • 3:18:29pm

re: #308 Anymouse

Jerry Coyne of “Why Evolution Is True” playing magic balance fairy about liberals delighting in Roger Ailes death, citing a Huffington Post headline.

whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com

(the headline is “Groper Gone”)

He then goes after other people in the same manner who died, closing with an attack on liberals.

He invites comments on his blog post. Perhaps someone should give him a few?

I’m thinking about it. Beating up on a stupid Magic Balance Fairy whine might do me a bit of good, since I had yet another blowout with a relative who can’t fucking stand being challenged with actual facts (chiropractic, of all things).

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Scottish Dragon  May 18, 2017 • 3:18:33pm

So this was the day at work yesterday:

My spouse and I take substitute jobs at a middle school well outside our city in North Carolina in farm country. Neither of us have been there before. The first instruction we get is to not smile at the students, as they will take it as a sign of weakness.

I’m not kidding.

I get my spouse situated at her room, and then I go back to mine to look for lesson plans. I have 7th grade math for the day. I can’t find plans.

None of the staff I have seen have said hello. Nobody smiles. They look exhausted.

Somebody helps me make copies of some worksheet to get by. As that happens, kids are coming in. Some of the kids are not actually part of the class, and are still in there after the bell rings. I order one large boy to leave and go to his class where he belongs. He lurches towards me, arms held back and looking like he is ready to start swinging at me while yelling “Why you gotta be like that, Coz?”

I walk into his body space and force him backwards, telling him I am not his “coz” and that I am the teacher here.

He tries to keep the bravado and physical threat up, but I force him out and shut the door. Now class begins…sort of.

Kids are in the halls and are out of control, running up and around and beating on my door and looking in the window. This happens through the day. The kids in all the classes are waaaaaaay behind on math for 7th grade. Most of them don’t even make a pretense at really working. All of the calculators in the class have been vandalized and damaged. The desks are damaged.

Fidget spinner toys are everywhere. It is obvious some of the girls have developed…early… and they are wearing very tight tops to let us all know that they have DD cup demi-bras on. There are 12 year old girls who can pass for street walkers. Some of the boys are wearing their pants down around their knees. Did I mention everybody has one of those damned fidget spinners?

One of the kids running wild in the hall refuses to speak in any intelligible language. When you address him, he points at you and starts making loud guitar sounds, and then follows you bellowing guitar sounds while gesturing like he is in some demented Sondheim musical as interpreted by a lunatic binging on mescaline.

Another teacher demands to know why the student is over on that side of the school. The guitar sounds and gestures find a new victim.

During my planning period, a girl takes refuge in my room. I ask where she is supposed to be and she replies that this is her encore period.

What encore do you have, Kiddo?

Art…

Why aren’t you in art?

There’s no teacher, and the kids are doing all kinds of stuff.

I digest that bit of intelligence in silence for a moment and invite her to please stay as long as she likes.

At lunch, I observe to one of the teachers that the entire staff looks like they have survived the siege of Richmond.

Teachers eating in the cafeteria are discussing getting out. They say the turn-around principal is a failure.

This is in front of students who are at lunch.

The staff look and sound defeated. The worst of the kids have taken over the school and they are destroying it.

My spouse and I go to the car and exchange horrified and horrifying anecdotes. Her throat is so sore from yelling that she can hardly speak. Her classes had been insulting her all day. I’m sure there is more she hasn’t told me yet.

That is a school, right now, in North Carolina.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 3:20:34pm

re: #315 austin_blue

Huge storms!

With Gulf air streaming north and freezing air here on the High Plains, heavy thunderstorms and tornadoes are the order of the day.

Headed to the general store for booze and smokes … brb

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 3:20:48pm

re: #318 EPR-radar

Here’s something to not look forward to. If Trump deviates from his script when talking about Islam in Saudi Arabia, he’ll probably start talking about his electoral college victory and how difficult that was for him to win.

This level of idiocy would be totally horrifying, but it is even worse to realize that it would be one of the most benign things that could happen after Trump goes off-script in that setting.

Of course he’ll talk about that. He always talks about that. He’ll also talk about how no one in history has ever been more unfairly attacked than him. NO ONE!

This and “grab them by the pussy” are the only things he wants to talk about.

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 3:21:09pm

re: #323 Scottish Dragon

That is a truly horrible situation all around. DeVos would read this post and think it a good start.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 18, 2017 • 3:22:36pm

re: #325 Skip Intro

Of course he’ll talk about that. He always talks about that. He’ll also talk about how no one in history has ever been more unfairly attacked than him. NO ONE!

This and “grab them by the pussy” are the only things he wants to talk about.

Unless he starts talking about the people on rooftops cheering 9/11

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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 3:23:00pm

re: #325 Skip Intro

Of course he’ll talk about that. He always talks about that. He’ll also talk about how no one in history has ever been more unfairly attacked than him. NO ONE!

This and “grab them by the pussy” are the only things he wants to talk about.

My grief would be overwhelming if POTUS* pussygrabber got himself torn to pieces by a crowd for making that boast at the wrong place and time.

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wrenchwench  May 18, 2017 • 3:23:46pm

re: #323 Scottish Dragon

{{{Scottish Dragon}}}

Thank you for your service. I wish you well (both of you).

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 3:24:42pm

I feel like Pavlov’s Dog. Every work day for the last week, something big broke around 6 PM.

Now it’s 6:25 Back East.

And I’m salivating.

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 3:25:11pm

re: #327 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Unless he starts talking about the people on rooftops cheering 9/11

I expect him to have Spicer show up with a yuuuge blow up of Trump’s EC map. I am going to be so disappointed if he doesn’t ask to see a flying carpet.

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 3:26:31pm
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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 3:27:22pm
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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 3:39:58pm

re: #333 Kragar

Quintupling down on the grotesque. The Rich family needs to sue the shit out of Lumpy and ensure his permanent unemployment.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 3:40:33pm

re: #323 Scottish Dragon

Not all heroes wear capes, as they say.

I’m not a teacher, but I gather this is what happens when a school administration does not support its teachers and assistants.

For conservatives, that becomes a feature not a bug. “See? The school is failing, we need vouchers for private schools.”

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freetoken  May 18, 2017 • 3:41:17pm

re: #314 wrenchwench

Coyne one of those ‘problem atheists’. He was also my brother’s advisor. He’s a good frog guy, but a bigot against Muslims, IIRC.

It’s not unusual, I think. Coyne knows biology. He’s not so good at other things. This is the price I suppose of deep specialization. I once left a comment on his blog, IIRC, on one of his posts about religion, where he grossly over-simplified some position.

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 3:42:12pm
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Scottish Dragon  May 18, 2017 • 3:42:18pm

re: #335 Anymouse

I’ve never seen or experienced anything even remotely like that before. I have been in really rough schools before, but the staff and admin were still fighting the good fight.

The staff here had given up.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 3:43:00pm

re: #333 Kragar

Ignore he was killed? No. Ignore insane conspiracy theories? Yes.

Sean Hannity is trying to cast himself as the victim. And FOX News Channel’s sudden love for Wikileaks is certainly self-serving. I’ll bet it would disappear if a dump of documents about Roger Ailes came out from them.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 3:44:29pm

Trip to store: Streets here are sinking slippery mud. I need to have my Smart converted to a half-track.

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 3:44:37pm

re: #339 Anymouse

Why would Putin want to do that?

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Bubblehead II  May 18, 2017 • 3:46:02pm

...

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carey94tt  May 18, 2017 • 3:46:55pm

re: #323 Scottish Dragon

A true horror story….stay safe.

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Stanley Sea  May 18, 2017 • 3:48:05pm
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austin_blue  May 18, 2017 • 3:48:34pm

re: #340 Anymouse

Trip to store: Streets here are sinking slippery mud. I need to have my Smart converted to a half-track.

You need one of these…

Image: File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-725-0184-22,_Russland,_Soldaten_auf_Kettenkrad.jpg

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The Major  May 18, 2017 • 3:50:07pm

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 3:53:03pm

re: #346 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 3:53:04pm

re: #344 Stanley Sea

Meanwhile, wingnut calls her “liberals.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 3:55:41pm

re: #348 Anymouse

Meanwhile, wingnut calls her “liberals.”

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Well, after all, HER Trumpspawn isn’t part of the Inner Circle.

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austin_blue  May 18, 2017 • 3:56:40pm

Tornado warning SE of Abilene, moving NE @ 40mph.

Heads up, Shiplord!

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The Major  May 18, 2017 • 3:58:15pm

re: #347 ObserverArt

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 3:59:59pm

re: #339 Anymouse

Ignore he was killed? No. Ignore insane conspiracy theories? Yes.

Sean Hannity is trying to cast himself as the victim. And FOX News Channel’s sudden love for Wikileaks is certainly self-serving. I’ll bet it would disappear if a dump of documents about Roger Ailes came out from them.

When Rupert Murdoch fails to buy Sky Networks (for a second time) things will no doubt get really interesting.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:00:05pm

Wingnuts all over the Times Square hashtag. They really, really want this to be about terrorism, including numerous photos culled from other incidents, &c.

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bratwurst  May 18, 2017 • 4:00:37pm
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:05:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 4:07:02pm

re: #353 Anymouse

Wingnuts all over the Times Square hashtag. They really, really want this to be about terrorism, including numerous photos culled from other incidents, &c.

well, the driver is a brown guy with the last name of Rojas.
so what if he’s an American citizen from the Bronx and a Navy vet.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:07:44pm
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:09:10pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, the driver is a brown guy with the last name of Rojas.
so what if he’s an American citizen from the Bronx and a Navy vet.

Haven’t read how long he was in the Navy, but at age twenty it couldn’t have been very long. Most (but not all) Navy contracts are at least for four years (which might indicate he was let go early).

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 4:09:30pm

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 4:10:26pm

re: #348 Anymouse

Meanwhile, wingnut calls her “liberals.”

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How the fuck do they know they’er from NYC or liberals for that matter? Times Square isn’t just NEw Yorkers. It’s one of hte most touristy parts of the city but go ahead imbred wingnut trash, make this about the evil liberals.

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 4:10:41pm

re: #357 Anymouse

Trump is sure bringing the jobs back for lawyers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 4:11:14pm

re: #358 Anymouse

Haven’t read how long he was in the Navy, but at age twenty it couldn’t have been very long. Most (but not all) Navy contracts are at least for four years (which might indicate he was let go early).

He is 26 years old according to multiple news sources.

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The Major  May 18, 2017 • 4:13:59pm

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 4:14:31pm

theonion.com

I always think of this when wingnuts talk about New York. I’m not a New Yorker or a NEw York resident but I’m a frequent visitor to the city and I’m sick of wingnut assholes who have never been there constantly shitting on it. New York is very representative of our country as a whole which is more than you can say about their white bread towns where diversity is having someone not of Nordic ancestry.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:15:53pm

Some wingnuts are claiming that the guy admitted to using PCP to cops and was acting on God’s command, according to a CNN article they cite which says no such thing.
cnn.com

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 4:15:57pm

I was pleasantly surprised that this got a lot of likes today on FB:
Minor rant, don’t talk to me about millennials and snowflakes when we have a President who literally complains about being made fun by a spoof show and uses his address to Coast Guard graduates to complain that he is by far the most mistreated politician ever. Harry Truman had a saying, can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

My conservative friend responded. I don’t think he got that I was directing it at people like him though to his credit, he doesn’t like Trump.

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gocart mozart  May 18, 2017 • 4:21:08pm
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teleskiguy  May 18, 2017 • 4:21:15pm

My new page.

Just fucking awful. Soundgarden is in my musical DNA. We’ve lost a giant of the era.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 4:23:00pm

re: #367 gocart mozart

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I can actually see him doing this. He’s that stupid and insecure.

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gocart mozart  May 18, 2017 • 4:24:11pm
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:25:22pm
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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 4:26:43pm

re: #370 gocart mozart

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I continue to be amused how Hannity who has been in the media for most of my life and has been known to brag about his ratings likes to act like he’s not part of the media. And wen did Roger ever give other families time to grieve Sean? His and your network engaged in justifying the death of any racial minority you can. You can kiss the fattest corner of my ass, Lumpy. Your boss was a miserable hate merchant who was that way because he was an even uglier person inside than he was outside. Must have came from knowing that he had nothing positive to offer the world so he became a hate pimp.

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Patricia Kayden  May 18, 2017 • 4:27:38pm

re: #30 Anymouse

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Congress under Republicans had no intention of conducting a transparent, vigorous investigation of Russian interference in our last presidential election. Who is Graham kidding?

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sagehen  May 18, 2017 • 4:28:42pm

re: #361 Skip Intro

Trump is sure bringing the jobs back for lawyers.

And hey!! Those are good paying jobs. At least $500/hr at that level.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:29:11pm

re: #373 Patricia Kayden

Congress under Republicans had no intention of conducting a transparent, vigorous investigation of Russian interference in our last presidential election. Who is Graham kidding?

Senator Graham pandering to conservatives.

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Barefoot Grin  May 18, 2017 • 4:30:09pm

Ailes: Death of a Turd Merchant

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 4:32:14pm

re: #375 Anymouse

Senator Graham pandering to conservatives.

He really thinks it will make them like him.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:33:43pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

He really thinks it will make them like him.

Yup. Trump’s crazy base (not the people who just pull the lever marked R but the real supporters) despises every established Republican politician.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 4:34:31pm

I’m sorry if my language on Ailes seemed harsh but you know what, I really want to know what positive the guy was trying to do. It wasn’t even Buckley who tried to spread conservative ideology. Ailes didn’t have ar eal ideology. He hated liberals and that was his business model for nearly a half century going back to his involvement with Nixon. That’s not an ideology. That’s a bitter bastard who can’t articulate his own beliefs without attacking the other-side’s patriotism and someone who needed scapegoats to keep his viewers. This guy won’t miss Ailes knowing how he treated women and minorities both in his personal life and professional life.

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Patricia Kayden  May 18, 2017 • 4:35:43pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart

Can’t stand Bill Kristol for multiple reasons but dang it that was a great tweet!!

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 4:36:12pm

re: #378 Anymouse

Yup. Trump’s crazy base (not the people who just pull the lever marked R but the real supporters) despises every established Republican politician.

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Steven A Smith? Maybe they can have Skip Bayless on to explain how Lieberman should be the next FBI director.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:36:22pm

Guy who just signed up to Twitter this month and has exactly two tweets goes straight for the sexist remarks against Ms. Shoenkopf:

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:37:52pm
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MsJ  May 18, 2017 • 4:38:21pm

re: #352 Myron Falwell

When Rupert Murdoch fails to buy Sky Networks (for a second time) things will no doubt get really interesting.

Please tell me that is a given. Please.

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Decatur Deb  May 18, 2017 • 4:38:55pm

re: #383 Anymouse

Pres. Trump says gangs have “literally taken over towns and cities” of U.S.

He’s right, if he’s talking about the GOP.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:39:21pm

A minute ago:

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 4:39:31pm

Steven A Smith on Fox News??? What the hell is going on? Things are really strange.

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Le Coquí Résistance  May 18, 2017 • 4:40:32pm

re: #73 Anymouse

A hypothetical here.

My state has a super-majority of Republicans in the Unicameral. For the sake of argument, Hillary Clinton took the popular vote here instead of Donald Trump.

The state legislature could still direct electors to vote for Donald Trump. That’s what we have now.

I have no problem with states like Mass., NY, Calif., &c (the states with the most people) signing on. One person one vote.

Small states like mine, and many others, want to retain their leverage. Wyo. has 520,000 people and gets the same two senatorial votes as California’s 30,000,000.

Tangentially, that’s another reason against Puerto Rico’s statehood bid. With a population of 3.5 million, it would eclipse many states.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 4:42:15pm

re: #387 ObserverArt

Steven A Smith on Fox News??? What the hell is going on? Things are really strange.

I think they’ve used him to put down blacks who support the Dems before if I am not mistaken.

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HappyWarrior  May 18, 2017 • 4:42:33pm

re: #385 Decatur Deb

He’s right, if he’s talking about the GOP.

Ah, MS-GOP 13.

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teleskiguy  May 18, 2017 • 4:43:51pm

re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:44:44pm

Long thread on why Trump is inviting Flynn back to the White House. It explains that though Trump may not have started out thinking “fascism,” that it the only logical conclusion of what he needs to do now to stay in power.

There is a note in the thread about all the people who have a piece of the power to stop that thinking “someone else will do it” (profiles in cowardice).

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The Major  May 18, 2017 • 4:45:35pm

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Belafon  May 18, 2017 • 4:50:45pm

re: #392 Anymouse

Another angle: Trump wants people around him who tell him what he wants to hear. He also doesn’t think that it’s a bad thing for Flynn to have done what he did. If it were bad, Flynn would be in jail, right?

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Teukka  May 18, 2017 • 4:52:19pm

re: #394 Belafon

Another angle: Trump wants people around him who tell him what he wants to hear. He also doesn’t think that it’s a bad thing for Flynn to have done what he did. If it were bad, Flynn would be in jail, right?

People who surround themselves with people who only tell them what they want to hear, instead of people who tell them what they need to hear always end up ruined.

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FormerDirtDart  May 18, 2017 • 4:53:39pm

re: #387 ObserverArt

Steven A Smith on Fox News??? What the hell is going on? Things are really strange.

He was on a panel with Ted Nugent.
So yes, things really are strange…

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Teukka  May 18, 2017 • 4:54:42pm

re: #396 FormerDirtDart

He was on a panel with Ted Nugent.
So yes, things really are strange…

In the sacred words of Bachman Turner Overdrive:
“Baby, you just ain’t seen nuthin’ yet!”

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 4:56:30pm

Andrews Air Force Base issued its first Gold Star Family base access cards so Gold Star Family members can access graves, base events, and support services unescorted on the base.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2017 • 4:59:50pm

re: #397 Teukka

In the sacred words of Bachman Turner Overdrive:
“Baby, you just ain’t seen nuthin’ yet!”

You mean “B-B-B-Baby, you just ain’t seen n-n-n-nuthin’ yet!”

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Charles Johnson  May 18, 2017 • 4:59:51pm
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EPR-radar  May 18, 2017 • 5:00:14pm

re: #395 Teukka

People who surround themselves with people who only tell them what they want to hear, instead of people who tell them what they need to hear always end up ruined.

That’s the way it should work. But Trump has been operating this way his entire life and it hasn’t caught up with him yet. Hopefully his bad karma comes soon.

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 5:01:43pm

When there are reports that Congressional GOPers are shitting bricks that there are more tapes of their conversations that would expose their craven agenda, you know things are truly fucked.

There are so many different levels of corruption and morally and ethically challenged among the GOP that this one rates only a 5.0 on the weird shitometer.

Trump is constantly pegging 11.5 on a 10 scale.

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Broad With Sass  May 18, 2017 • 5:02:13pm

re: #393 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 5:03:16pm

re: #403 lawhawk

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

Yay Evan!

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teleskiguy  May 18, 2017 • 5:04:20pm

re: #403 lawhawk

There are so many different levels of corruption and morally and ethically challenged among the GOP that this one rates only a 5.0 on the weird shitometer.

Trump is constantly pegging 11.5 on a 10 scale.

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 5:05:04pm

re: #401 Charles Johnson

From Russia, With Love.

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ObserverArt  May 18, 2017 • 5:05:46pm

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

Yay Evan!

Do you smell smoke? I smell it, and you know what they say about where there is smoke…

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Teukka  May 18, 2017 • 5:07:30pm

re: #401 Charles Johnson

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 5:07:55pm
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TedStriker  May 18, 2017 • 5:08:03pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is…not good…

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Teukka  May 18, 2017 • 5:09:09pm

re: #402 EPR-radar

That’s the way it should work. But Trump has been operating this way his entire life and it hasn’t caught up with him yet. Hopefully his bad karma comes soon.

You know the fun thing with statistics? Say you have a 10/90 chance of event X occuring? The further you go down the time axis without without Lady Fortune looking at you crosseyed even once, the higher the likelihood she’ll become a complete and utter beyatch.

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The Major  May 18, 2017 • 5:09:14pm

re: #401 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2017 • 5:09:37pm

re: #411 TedStriker

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really, I am so amused that my regional NWS office has such a great sense of humor.

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Stanley Sea  May 18, 2017 • 5:09:51pm

More deets & ref the Wittes tweet earlier

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lawhawk  May 18, 2017 • 5:10:06pm
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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 5:10:25pm

So today my mother, who has been dead for over 20 years, gets a mail solicitation from Steve King to send money to save Trump from the evil Dems and send money.

Why Steve King? I live in CA.

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The Major  May 18, 2017 • 5:11:04pm

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 5:11:24pm
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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 5:11:29pm

re: #403 lawhawk

Aren’t these all the same guys that were blaming the Democrats for the DNC hack? The Party of Personal Responsibility hypocrites itself again… .

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 5:14:28pm

re: #417 Skip Intro

So today my mother, who has been dead for over 20 years, gets a mail solicitation from Steve King to send money to save Trump from the evil Dems and send money.

Why Steve King? I live in CA.

Well, think of it this way. Steve King (R-acist, IA-4) is wasting money on mail solicitations to a person who could never, ever give him money even if she wanted to.

We can wish Steve King has thousands of such people on his list.

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Skip Intro  May 18, 2017 • 5:17:02pm

re: #421 Anymouse

She got one from Trump yesterday. Besides finding this really offensive and tasteless, don’t these assholes ever clean up their voter registration database? Isn’t voter fraud one of the Big Issues?

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Anymouse  May 18, 2017 • 5:22:09pm

re: #422 Skip Intro

She got one from Trump yesterday. Besides finding this really offensive and tasteless, don’t these assholes ever clean up their voter registration database? Isn’t voter fraud one of the Big Issues?

Supposedly. But that’s only when Democrats vote.

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Myron Falwell  May 18, 2017 • 5:33:56pm

re: #403 lawhawk

Their reaction makes it sound like Evan MacMullan has got really juicy stuff to incriminate them all.

I’m okay with this. Sunlight is an awesome disinfectant.

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Joe Bacon  May 18, 2017 • 6:05:15pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Aw! He’s fallen and he can’t get up…


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