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JordanRules  May 18, 2017 • 10:00:52pm

Well played.

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teleskiguy  May 18, 2017 • 10:28:29pm

I’m experiencing one of those moments where I don’t realize how incredible and valuable a certain human is until they’re dead.

Chris Cornell.

I’m just. Fuck.

He was the Man, and was a part of some of the music that is forever etched into my consciousness.

In Internet parlance, I haz a sad…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 18, 2017 • 10:28:57pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2017 • 10:41:45pm

re: #3 klys (maker of Silmarils)

JFC. So much contempt for minorities.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2017 • 10:44:09pm

re: #2 teleskiguy

I was jamming to this on my way home from work:

Soundgarden - Outshined

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JordanRules  May 18, 2017 • 10:51:50pm

This listen on NPR was affirming and infuriating.

‘The Color Of Law’ Details How U.S. Housing Policies Created Segregation
Link

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 10:56:09pm

Yeah when you miss somebody
You tell yourself a hundred thousand times
Nobody ever lives forever
So you give it one more try
To wave goodbye, wave goodbye

Chris Cornell - Wave Goodbye (Euphoria Morning)

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teleskiguy  May 18, 2017 • 10:59:04pm
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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 10:59:17pm

I’m your disappearing one
I’ll vanish when the curtain’s drawn
But I will come again, and you will let me in
And you’ll see I never disappear for long

Chris Cornell - Disappearing One (Euphoria Morning)

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teleskiguy  May 18, 2017 • 11:01:09pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

“I’m looking California, and feeling Minnesota”

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The Major  May 18, 2017 • 11:02:50pm

re: #1 JordanRules

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 11:05:56pm

My new shootah, a 1985 Colt Peacekeeper .357 mag. These guns are kinda weird, only made for 3 years, basically a Trooper Mark V that was given a roughish sandblasted finish and then parkerized. Rumor is they were initially created during a worker strike, when the Colt factory lacked the manpower required to create their trademark deep blue finish. This gun has the best single action trigger I’ve ever felt on any gun hands down. It’s ridiculously good, zero pre-travel, breaks like glass and maybe, maybe a thousandth of an inch post break movement.

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teleskiguy  May 18, 2017 • 11:10:40pm

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

This is your thousandth millionth gun acquisition, if I’m correct. Anybody reading this, goddamnedfrank is a fuckin’ gun nut to the n’th degree. We’re not afraid of fire power!

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Targetpractice  May 18, 2017 • 11:15:21pm

I should be angry at Bungie because they didn’t give me what I really tuned in for (Beta release date), but then I saw the trailer and I was in love.

Destiny 2 - Official Gameplay Reveal Trailer

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 11:19:31pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

I like that Lance Riddick is getting a lot of video game voice over work lately. He was great as Sylens in Horizon Zero Dawn.

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JordanRules  May 18, 2017 • 11:22:00pm

Loving all the Chris Cornell music y’all are posting. I was only familiar in a passing popular sense so this is a wonderful tribute.

Special hat tip to Kragar’s lyric highlights. It’s resonating and lovely.

Love all your personal anecdotes too Teleskiguy. So amazing to appreciate points of genesis in a musical awakening.

Damn tragic.

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 11:22:55pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

New edition of 40k coming this summer

Warhammer 40,000: New Heroes for a Dark Imperium

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austin_blue  May 18, 2017 • 11:26:15pm

Well, I pulled a CL. {sniffs, wipes a tear}

From downstairs, a very technical post about fracking:

re: #273 prairiefire

Yes, damn fracking in general.

Agreed.

Now, this is a long post, but it is also informative and by a Lizard who knows what he is talking about. Think of it as a seminar.

As a former well-head geologist, I worked on off-shore rigs where directional drilling was the norm. An offshore platform would have up to thirty six slots where you would start a well vertically and kick it off at an angle to tap various sections of an oil or gas reservoir. The target was always a gas or oil sand.

What fracking does is target the black (organic) shale that is the original source of the oil/gas in the overlying/underlying porous sandstone that used to be the target of production.

The use of fracking opens up old oil/gas fields to exploit an asset that was not previously accessible.

When I was working in the North Sea, we would routinely penetrate a black shale (petroleum source rock) 1000 feet thick immediately above a 500-foot thick oil and gas reservoir. Over time, temperature and pressure “cooked” oil and gas out of that source rock which migrated into the sandstone reservoir. That source rock is now a future target of fracking in the North Sea. It probably contains 5X to 10X the recoverable oil/gas that what was available in the sandstone reservoirs.

So is fracking bad? Depends. An oil or gas well is a series of increasingly smaller straws placed into the earth. Each straw blocks off a higher pressure that wants to collapse the hole you are drilling. Each straw is called a casing string, packed off by cement. It’s a fine balance between keeping a hole open and having it collapse into itself.

Every time you set an intermediate casing string to keep the hole open, you must be extremely careful to ensure that the cement seal is tight as a tick. This allows you to continue to drill safely as you increase the depth of the well, and its increasing pressure. If you do this successfully, you will have an oil or gas well with excellent integrity, from the surface to the bottom.

This is true of a well that is fracked or a traditional production well that is producing from a sandstone reservoir.

The recent unpleasantness in the Gulf of Mexico was caused by a decision by BP, in part, not to run a string of casing from the surface to the bottom of the hole and cementing it in place. Instead, they ran a string from the bottom of the previous casing string to the bottom of the hole and had a shitty cement job to secure it. When they displaced the drilling mud from the well (which is manipulated to hold back the pressure to close the hole by adding very heavy minerals like barite into the mix) the pressure at the bottom of the hole bypassed the cement on the outside of the casing and overcame the remaining fluids in the string and blew all of the fluid inside the wellbore out of the open hole from the bottom of the well to the surface.

Classic blowout. Fire, death, destruction, uncontrolled releases of oil and gas when the bottom assembly failed and they completely lost control of the well. Stupid, stupid motherfucking decision to save a few hundred thousand dollars.

What does this have to do with fracking? It’s tenuous. Fracking is busting up the source rock of traditional oils and gas recovery. It’s relatively cheap. It’s generally relatively shallow directional drilling, which has been done for decades, just into sandstone reservoirs.

It has one thing in common with traditional directional drilling. The integrity of any individual oil/gas production well is as good as the worst cement job in the production string. A bed cement job can result in oil or gas fucking up drinking water sources.

The second thing is that fracking produces huge volumes of water that serves as a hydraulic hammer (it can’t be compressed!) to explode the source rock and serve as a conduit for sand, propants, and other additives to hold the fractures open so that once the water and waste products are removed, petroleum moves to the well bore and then up to the surface to be collected and distributed for refining. Each fracked well will require two to four million gallons of water to frack the well which will be recovered at the surface and need to be disposed.

What to do with that polluted water? The solution in Texas, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania and everywhere else fracking is being utilized is to inject it into waste disposal wells. Guess what kind of well is less regulated? This is the hole in the fracking industry.

Injection wells put the polluted water into subsurface water bearing units that have no viable human use because they are “sour” (this means they have total dissolved solids (TDS) (phosphates, nitrates, sulfates) greater than 10,000 parts per million (PPM). They are generally much deeper than groundwater drinking sources used by cities and towns, which have a TDS below 1000 PPM.

The amount of fracking fluids they have been allowed to accept by the overseers of the oil and gas industries in the States where fracking is most common is massive. This has resulted in two things. The first is that the casing failures in these wells is much greater than in production wells, resulting in migration of pollutants into shallow drinking water sources used by people. The second is that that they have injected water under extreme pressure, into old fault lines that have again become active.

Which is the explanation why Oklahoma earthquakes have increased by orders of magnitude over the past ten years.

This is not rocket science, it is simple geology and physics.

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Targetpractice  May 18, 2017 • 11:26:32pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

I like that Lance Riddick is getting a lot of video game voice over work lately. He was great as Sylens in Horizon Zero Dawn.

Yeah, the voice work in Destiny is absolutely awesome. They also got Nathan Fillion and Gina Torres back together for the first time since Serenity. Bill Nighy, Peter Stormare, Claudia Black, it’s like a long list of actors who you go “I know that voice!”

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goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2017 • 11:28:49pm

re: #18 Kragar

New edition of 40k coming this summer

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Smells like heresy.

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 11:30:18pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

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Dave In Austin  May 18, 2017 • 11:34:28pm
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austin_blue  May 18, 2017 • 11:39:51pm

re: #23 Dave In Austin

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Nah, Orange Foolius and Erdogan are asshole buddies. Suck it up, sister, Kurds are the next Armenians. Death, death, death.

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JordanRules  May 18, 2017 • 11:40:45pm

re: #23 Dave In Austin

Disgusting. Their Ambassador should be kicked out.
But I suppose this was one of Flynn’s throwaway deliverables.

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JordanRules  May 18, 2017 • 11:44:31pm

It’s too late Peter. Koolaid consumed.

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Dave In Austin  May 18, 2017 • 11:54:14pm
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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 11:54:34pm
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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 11:54:47pm

re: #27 Dave In Austin

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Targetpractice  May 18, 2017 • 11:56:00pm

re: #29 Kragar

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Can’t be, he’s not wearing a damn fine coat.

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Kragar  May 18, 2017 • 11:59:26pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 12:01:02am

re: #31 Kragar

“I can’t be corrupt because I’m totally incompetent and utterly failed to properly perform my duties.”

Its a bold strategy.

Worked for GHW Bush regarding Iran-Contra.

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Targetpractice  May 19, 2017 • 12:01:07am

re: #31 Kragar

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If 30+ years of Republican scandals have proven anything, it’s that if you keep saying “I had no clue,” you can get away with virtually anything.

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piratedan  May 19, 2017 • 12:09:28am

re: #33 Targetpractice

even if your job description is “have a fucking clue”.

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 12:11:10am
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austin_blue  May 19, 2017 • 12:21:00am

re: #35 JordanRules

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In 1980, he used to sell his drawings for $50.

And night, all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 12:22:09am

re: #36 austin_blue

In 1980, he used to sell his drawings for $50.

then he died…

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Dave In Austin  May 19, 2017 • 12:40:27am
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Weaselone  May 19, 2017 • 2:24:32am

re: #35 JordanRules

Further proof that the wealthy on this planet are not overtaxed.

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Targetpractice  May 19, 2017 • 2:30:52am

I wonder if Ecuador will kick his sorry ass out now…

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Kragar  May 19, 2017 • 2:54:31am
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Targetpractice  May 19, 2017 • 3:03:39am

re: #41 Kragar

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fern01  May 19, 2017 • 3:40:00am

What does Bob Woodward have against President Obama. When asked about trump - the FIRST thing he always says is a criticism of Pres Obama. Did the later not bow to him enough?

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 3:52:26am

re: #43 fern01

What does Bob Woodward have against President Obama. When asked about trump - the FIRST thing he always says is a criticism of Pres Obama. Did the later not bow to him enough?

He’s a senile coot who claimed that Obama’s staff had threaten him.

On February 27, Woodward told Politico that before the column was published, Woodward had called a senior White House official, later identified by reporters as economic adviser Gene Sperling, to discuss the piece, and that the official had “yelled at [Woodward] for about a half-hour” before sending him a page-long email that included the sentence, “I think you will regret staking out that claim.” In Politico’s reporting, Woodward’s focus on that line was described as “making clear he saw [that sentence] as a veiled threat”, although Woodward did not use the word “threat” or “threatened”.[26] Several other sources also indicated that Woodward had expressed the line as an intended threat.[27][28][29]

The next day, Politico published the complete email exchange between Woodward and Sperling. Sperling’s statements leading up to the “regret” line read: “But I do truly believe you should rethink your comment about saying that Potus asking for revenues is moving the goal post. I know you may not believe this, but as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that claim.”[30] The White House subsequently released a statement that “of course no threat was intended…The note suggested that Mr. Woodward would regret the observation he made regarding the sequester because that observation was inaccurate, nothing more.”[31] Upon release of the emails, several conservative commentators indicated they no longer agreed with characterizing the “regret” statement as a threat.[32]

In a February 28 Fox News Channel interview, Woodward said he had never used the word “threat” but said Sperling’s conduct was “not the way to operate in a White House”. He also said: “I’ve been flooded with emails from people in the press saying this is exactly the way the White House works, they are trying to control and they don’t want to be challenged or crossed”.[33] National Journal editor Ron Fournier, conservative Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin, and Fox News contributor and former Clinton adviser Lanny Davis expressed support for Woodward; Fournier and Davis described similar experiences with Obama administration officials.[34][35][36]

en.wikipedia.org

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Dr. Matt  May 19, 2017 • 4:25:29am
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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2017 • 4:47:04am

re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

then he died…

Good career move.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 4:55:30am

re: #46 Decatur Deb

Good career move.

I vaguely recall a fictional story about an artist who fakes his own death in order to raise the value of his paintings…

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Dr. Matt  May 19, 2017 • 4:58:01am

Madison must have been psychic

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2017 • 5:02:07am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I vaguely recall a fictional story about an artist who fakes his own death in order to raise the value of his paintings…

Interesting art. Seen better on the walls of abandoned buildings under the West Side highway.

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fern01  May 19, 2017 • 5:06:37am

re: #44 Timothy Watson

He’s a senile coot who claimed that Obama’s staff had threaten him.

en.wikipedia.org

Thanks for that - I thought I had read something earlier - I have rarely, if ever, said a positive thing about joe of the morning - but he shut him up very fast when he started that this am & only allowed him to speak again some time later on a different topic.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 5:07:35am

re: #3 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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So pointlessly cruel and unnecessary. This is really fucked up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 5:09:21am

re: #51 HappyWarrior

Interior Secretary Zinke is suspending the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act review committee.

So pointlessly cruel and unnecessary. This is really fucked up.

Highly necessary…those people stand in the way of a lot of lucrative real estate and mining rights deals…

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 5:13:10am

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Highly necessary…those people stand in the way of a lot of lucrative real estate and mining rights deals…

All about green as my grandpa would say. My closest brother in age is a big indigenous people’a rights supporter not just in the US but globally, I’ll have to bring this to attention next time we speak. It’s just so cruel. Fuckers.

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jeffreyw  May 19, 2017 • 5:44:24am

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Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 5:45:11am

First Toddler of the United States, y’all

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Barefoot Grin  May 19, 2017 • 5:47:02am

Specific areas experiencing Twitter issues, apparently….

twitter.com

Sorry, this is better:

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 5:47:35am

Washington Post story:

By Thursday night, all three suspects were in custody at the Madison County Jail. Two were 17 years old. The age of the third was unavailable. All are being held without bond pending formal charges. If convicted they could be subject to the death penalty.

washingtonpost.com
Uh, no, not since 2005 (Roper v. Simmons, 543 U.S. 551 (2005)).

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Eventual Carrion  May 19, 2017 • 5:49:53am

re: #3 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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So when these pipelines inevitably malfunction and destroy the native burial places the oil companies can’t be held responsible. Doing it for the “american” people I’m sure.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 5:50:47am
A pair of Chinese fighter jets conducted an “unprofessional” intercept of an American radiation-sniffing surveillance plane over the East China Sea, the U.S. Air Force said Friday, the latest in a series of such incidents that have raised U.S. concerns in an already tense region.

On Wednesday, the two Chinese SU-30 jets approached a WC-135 Constant Phoenix aircraft — a modified Boeing C-135 — conducting a routine mission in international airspace in accordance with international law, Pacific Air Forces spokeswoman Lt. Col. Lori Hodge said in a statement.

The WC-135 crew characterized the intercept as unprofessional “due to the maneuvers by the Chinese pilot, as well as the speeds and proximity of both aircraft,” Hodge said.

She declined to provide further details and said the issue would be addressed with China through “appropriate diplomatic and military channels.”

Only if Trump never hears about it.

richmond.com

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darthstar  May 19, 2017 • 5:51:23am

Buenos dias de Puerto Vallarta. Got in yesterday, had a nice dinner with one of my wife’s girlfriends from surf camp and her husband…stayed at their condo last night - this bed is so fuckin’ comfortable I don’t want to get up - and had a nice dinner on the beach. It’s like being at home, except warmer.

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darthstar  May 19, 2017 • 5:53:03am

So I hear Trump indicated he’d like Michael Flynn back at the White House. Well, I’m certainly glad he’s put that whole Russia thing behind him already. Crazy orange fucker.

Why do I get the feeling these next 10 days will be his only trip abroad as president?

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 5:56:17am

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I cannot.  May 19, 2017 • 5:57:33am

re: #62 Timothy Watson

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 5:57:56am

re: #62 Timothy Watson

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2017 • 5:58:09am

re: #62 Timothy Watson

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darthstar  May 19, 2017 • 5:58:25am

I know a lot of people here don’t care for her, but she’s been having more hits than misses with this Russia thing now for several weeks.

And she called this:

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 6:00:03am

re: #62 Timothy Watson

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darthstar  May 19, 2017 • 6:01:43am
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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 6:02:25am
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austin_blue  May 19, 2017 • 6:03:22am

re: #54 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Does that chicken have a vessel full of liquid up its ass? And if so, what kind?

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 6:04:06am

re: #44 Timothy Watson

In a February 28 Fox News Channel interview, Woodward said he had never used the word “threat” but said Sperling’s conduct was “not the way to operate in a White House”. He also said: “I’ve been flooded with emails from people in the press saying this is exactly the way the White House works, they are trying to control and they don’t want to be challenged or crossed”.[

No, DT WH doesn’t do this. No, of course not.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 6:04:21am

re: #31 Kragar

What’s the word I’m looking for to describe Pence’s claims he was in the dark.

Oh right. Bullshit. More specifically:

Shiiiiit Sheeeeeit Shit Sheeeit - Senator Clay Davis, The Wire

Pence was on the transition team. He’s making personnel moves. Who else was on that team? Flynn. They all know. Or they all had reason to know, and didn’t care. And that’s perhaps even worse. We know Trump and his cabal are liars, but they’re also engaging and enabling Flynn’s seditious activities. That’s active and ongoing violations of their oaths of office. They didn’t do a fucking thing to stop it.

And Trump then decides that he wont listen to his lawyers and contacts Flynn after he was fired. Yeah, Mueller’s gonna have his hands full issuing subpoenas for every record Trump’s generated, every phone call, and every contact Trump had with Flynn.

Meanwhile, there’s this:

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2017 • 6:06:16am

re: #68 darthstar

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Is the Trump checkmarked quote real?

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2017 • 6:10:16am

re: #72 lawhawk

What’s the word I’m looking for to describe Pence’s claims he was in the dark.

Oh right. Bullshit. More specifically:

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Commouflage.

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 6:11:10am

The administrations plan for trying to counter the accusation that Trump blurted out information to the Russians, blame a program set up to ensure cybersecurity information sharing:

According to a source with knowledge of a White House meeting that took place Wednesday morning, Trump’s team is considering launching an investigation into a Department of Homeland Security program that shares information on cyberattacks in an effort to coordinate globally on countering digital threats, insinuating that it inappropriately opened up streams of sensitive data to Russia and other nonallies. Another option under consideration is placing a story in the media about the program, similarly accusing it of sharing sensitive information.

The White House told Foreign Policy that it was not aware of any such meeting or discussions with Russia to participate in that information-sharing program.

The program in question, known as the Automated Indicator Sharing capability, allows companies to provide information about potential cyberattackers, like IP addresses and emails, to the U.S. government and international partners. The Department of Homeland Security is working on expanding the program to sharing “characteristics of cyberattacks” to help “identify and block adversary methods that we’ve never seen before,” wrote Scott McConnell, a department spokesman, in an email to FP.

The administration’s approach in this instance is a “bag of crazy cats,” the source with knowledge of the meeting said.

I can’t really copy the whole thing, which you would need to read to see how crazy this idea would be. And I could see a desperate Trump trying it.

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darthstar  May 19, 2017 • 6:12:10am

re: #62 Timothy Watson

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Myron Falwell  May 19, 2017 • 6:13:43am

So Pence is trying to paint himself as being totally in the dark? Even in the most generous application of that bullshit, it still implies he’s dumber than a box of rocks.

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darthstar  May 19, 2017 • 6:14:35am

re: #75 Belafon

The administrations plan for trying to counter the accusation that Trump blurted out information to the Russians, blame a program set up to ensure cybersecurity information sharing:

I can’t really copy the whole thing, which you would need to read to see how crazy this idea would be. And I could see a desperate Trump trying it.

I don’t know…partnering with Russia on cybersecurity? Doesn’t sound optimal…

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darthstar  May 19, 2017 • 6:15:40am

re: #77 Myron Falwell

So Pence is trying to paint himself as being totally in the dark? Even in the most generous application of that bullshit, it still implies he’s dumber than a box of rocks.

I was so engrossed reading Sripture that I didn’t hear Flynn tell me he was working for the Russians.

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darthstar  May 19, 2017 • 6:17:02am

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Is the Trump checkmarked quote real?

Yes, click on the datestamp.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 6:17:05am

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Yes, yes it is.

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2017 • 6:18:32am

re: #81 lawhawk

Yes, yes it is.

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Thinking that is insane. Tweeting it is fucking insane.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 6:18:42am

re: #65 Decatur Deb

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re: #67 Teukka

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darthstar  May 19, 2017 • 6:19:21am

Donald Trump’s alibi, or at least the talking point for the next few days:

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 19, 2017 • 6:20:01am

re: #15 Targetpractice

I should be angry at Bungie because they didn’t give me what I really tuned in for (Beta release date), but then I saw the trailer and I was in love.

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

I took the afternoon off so I could watch the Twitch stream. I is very excited as are my clan-mates. It looks delice. Along with that whole “lets actually tell a story this time.” The lore looks very deep and satisfying.

I am good with not know the beta release date. Let’s me just play Horizon: Zero Dawn without anticipating the D2 beta…

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 6:21:34am

re: #84 darthstar

Donald Trump’s alibi, or at least the talking point for the next few days:

Yeah but what about Anthony Weiner corrupt Democrat shutup about Trump stupid libtard!

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 6:21:59am

re: #84 darthstar

Forget Trump. It’ll be the Hannity 24-7-365 balls to the wall nonstop talking point entry into everything Clinton has done, including the odious Seth Rich murder conspiracy theorizing.

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darthstar  May 19, 2017 • 6:23:00am

re: #83 Timothy Watson

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 6:23:23am

re: #46 Decatur Deb

Good career move.

For the agents, art collectors and auctioneers. For the artist…not so much.

As an artist I have never understood how prices shoot up after you die. No love for the living. They always say don’t be an artist. What, should you be a collector, agent, auctioneer? Then who creates the stuff they make the money on?

Just another group of people to be used by the rich.

Most of those people would never be caught dead around an artist when they are alive and creating. Not the kind of people they would invite into their tony homes.

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darthstar  May 19, 2017 • 6:23:38am
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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 6:24:46am

Is it just me, or does the color scheme in Pence’s background give you the creeps too?
pbs.twimg.com

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darthstar  May 19, 2017 • 6:25:52am

re: #91 Teukka

Is it just me, or does the color scheme in Pence’s background give you the creeps too?
pbs.twimg.com

Hail Hydra?

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jeffreyw  May 19, 2017 • 6:26:13am

re: #70 austin_blue

Does that chicken have a vessel full of liquid up its ass? And if so, what kind?

Yes it has this thing filling the nether cavity. I find that plain water works as well as anything. Only seasoning on the chicken is granulated garlic.

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 6:26:16am

re: #92 darthstar

Hail Hydra?

Mhmmm.

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darthstar  May 19, 2017 • 6:26:55am

re: #91 Teukka

Is it just me, or does the color scheme in Pence’s background give you the creeps too?
pbs.twimg.com

It’s too bad DF has gone dark. He loves the Cobra team from GI Joe. He’d be all over that logo.

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Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2017 • 6:27:17am

re: #91 Teukka

Is it just me, or does the color scheme in Pence’s background give you the creeps too?
pbs.twimg.com

Because it looks so familiar, at least if you’ve ever seen V for Vendetta.

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 6:27:38am

re: #78 darthstar

I don’t know…partnering with Russia on cybersecurity? Doesn’t sound optimal…

From what I gather, all this program amounts to is “Hey, there’s a new virus out. Watch out for it.”

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Unshaken Defiance  May 19, 2017 • 6:29:15am

A conservative thought he had me yesterday when I admitted I don’t think Trump would put Russian interests ahead of the US. “okay then about all this outrage” I sprung the trap. I pointed out I am certain Trump did and will again exploit or allow himself to be exploited by foreign powers to further his own interests ahead of the US.

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darthstar  May 19, 2017 • 6:30:02am

Hang on…this is some kind of Christian revival?

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 6:30:51am

re: #98 Unshaken Defiance

A conservative thought he had me yesterday when I admitted I don’t think Trump would put Russian interests ahead of the US. “okay then about all this outrage” I sprung the trap. I pointed out I am certain Trump did and will again exploit or allow himself to be exploited by foreign powers to further his own interests ahead of the US.

It all depends on what he regards as “US Interests”.

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 6:31:48am

re: #98 Unshaken Defiance

A conservative thought he had me yesterday when I admitted I don’t think Trump would put Russian interests ahead of the US. “okay then about all this outrage” I sprung the trap. I pointed out I am certain Trump did and will again exploit or allow himself to be exploited by foreign powers to further his own interests ahead of the US.

But I’d bet this same conservative would be happy to say he believed Obama and Hillary put X interests over interest of U.S.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 6:34:12am

re: #92 darthstar

Hail Hydra?

Under His Eye

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Joe Bacon  May 19, 2017 • 6:36:42am

re: #43 fern01

What does Bob Woodward have against President Obama. When asked about trump - the FIRST thing he always says is a criticism of Pres Obama. Did the later not bow to him enough?

Nobody kissed Dumbya’s ass more than Woodward. Still remember when Media Whores Online gave their “Whore Of The Year” honor to that asskisser.

Damn, I still miss “The Horse”!

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thedopefishlives  May 19, 2017 • 6:36:46am

re: #99 darthstar

Hang on…this is some kind of Christian revival?

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It’s a circle-jerk of fundamentalist wingnuts concerned about the persecution of Christians. It does happen (legitimately) in other countries, but I’m sure the focus is on those poor, terribly persecuted, repressed American Christians.

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Myron Falwell  May 19, 2017 • 6:37:06am

re: #99 darthstar

Hang on…this is some kind of Christian revival?

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Looks like a live staging of “The Handmaid’s Tale” to me…

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Joe Bacon  May 19, 2017 • 6:39:27am

re: #99 darthstar

Hang on…this is some kind of Christian revival?

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Darth, it’s a “KKKristian” Revival! Just like Indiana in the 1920’s when the KKK had full political control of that state!

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 6:39:34am

Joe Lieberman currently works for a law firm representing Trump: politico.com.

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 6:40:20am

re: #96 Dr Lizardo

Because it looks so familiar, at least if you’ve ever seen V for Vendetta.

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I thought more of this…
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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 6:41:03am

Is anyone having problems sending out Tweets? I keep getting “500 internal error”

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 6:42:11am

re: #103 Joe Bacon

Nobody kissed Dumbya’s ass more than Woodward. Still remember when Media Whores Online gave their “Whore Of The Year” honor to that asskisser.

Damn, I still miss “The Horse”!

Wow, that brings back memories.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 6:43:17am

re: #109 The Vicious Babushka

Twitter’s definitely having themselves some issues. Getting internal error issues.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 6:43:21am
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Myron Falwell  May 19, 2017 • 6:43:25am

re: #109 The Vicious Babushka

Is anyone having problems sending out Tweets? I keep getting “500 internal error”

Looks like Twitter is having another outage. Wonder if its confined to them or to other websites a la the DDOS attacks last fall.

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 6:43:56am

re: #109 The Vicious Babushka

Is anyone having problems sending out Tweets? I keep getting “500 internal error”

I saw you post a burst of mentions, then a tweet.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 6:46:18am

re: #114 Teukka

I saw you post a burst of mentions, then a tweet.

Yeah that was 45 minutes ago, now I can’t post or RT anything.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 19, 2017 • 6:46:49am

re: #101 Sir John Barron

But I’d bet this same conservative would be happy to say he believed Obama and Hillary put X interests over interest of U.S.

Oh yes all about the Clinton Foundation etc etc.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 6:47:27am

Whatever the glitch was seems to be fixed now

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 6:48:18am

re: #116 Unshaken Defiance

Oh yes all about the Clinton Foundation etc etc.

And the email server. What supposedly was the scandal there, if we’re going with intent as the benchmark? To avoid oversight? For what reason?

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 6:49:25am

This is good news for John McCain Donald Trump and Republicans
Republicans should be relieved Mueller will serve as special prosecutor

(Hugh Hewitt is the author to save you a click.)

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sagehen  May 19, 2017 • 6:50:15am

re: #36 austin_blue

In 1980, he used to sell his drawings for $50.

And night, all.

Vincent Van Gogh only sold one painting in his entire life.

The buyer was his brother.

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 6:50:16am

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

Whatever the glitch was seems to be fixed now

I see someone on my TL saying something about Twitter being broken. But yeah seems OK now.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 6:50:43am
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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 6:52:09am

*slow clap* Self interest is his guiding principle. Not doing the right thing.

And he’s still voting to enable Trump and the GOP’s regressive and dangerous agenda that shifts burdens from the rich on to everyone else.

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thedopefishlives  May 19, 2017 • 6:53:42am

re: #124 lawhawk

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*slow clap* Self interest is his guiding principle. Not doing the right thing.

And he’s still voting to enable Trump and the GOP’s regressive and dangerous agenda that shifts burdens from the rich on to everyone else.

He wants to have his cake and eat it too. In the case that Trump winds up not self-immolating, he wants to be on record as supporting his policies (at least, some of the less explicitly vile ones). In the case the Trump dumpster fire consumes all in its path, he wants to have an escape route. It’s all about staying in power at all costs.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2017 • 6:55:53am

Am I the only one who continues to be amazed at how the stock market just keeps blowing off the antics of the president? I really don’t understand it at all, and that worries me a lot.

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fern01  May 19, 2017 • 6:56:43am

re: #123 Timothy Watson

Anthony Weiner, disgraced former congressman, will plead guilty in ‘sexting’ case involving minor

Expect more tweets from Trump today.

Guess reading/studying for his overseas trip is not as important as getting in a few hard hitting tweets.

The media (including the pundits on AF1) mainly ignored President Obama’s overseas trips - unless there was a minor carryon about domestic issues to discuss - I am sure there will be 24x7 reporting on trump’s disasters.

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lizardofid  May 19, 2017 • 6:58:05am

re: #126 Skip Intro

Am I the only one who continues to be amazed at how the stock market just keeps blowing off the antics of the president? I really don’t understand it at all, and that worries me a lot.

irrational exuberance ?

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2017 • 6:59:57am

re: #127 fern01

I think that he’s going to get an ass kissing by the Saudis that would embarrass even Sean Hannity. They know he’s weak and can be used.

I suspect that will be the case everywhere he goes on this trip, and tRump will return even more full of himself than he is now.

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 6:59:58am

re: #126 Skip Intro

Am I the only one who continues to be amazed at how the stock market just keeps blowing off the antics of the president? I really don’t understand it at all, and that worries me a lot.

Well, I’m actually a little heartened that this feature of our economic system is able to carry on in the presence of political irrationality. But I’m sure something more material like a war or a major business or bank going bust, or something like that would carryover into the market.

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fern01  May 19, 2017 • 7:00:02am

re: #126 Skip Intro

Am I the only one who continues to be amazed at how the stock market just keeps blowing off the antics of the president? I really don’t understand it at all, and that worries me a lot.

While the media and the world are concentrating on the political scandals, trump and his team are writing out orders and regulations that give open slaughter to companies over people and the environment. The markets still expect the GOP agenda to move forward with or without trump.

I’m not sure why the bottom hasn’t fallen out of health insurance shares - something happening there that I do not understand.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 7:01:21am

re: #126 Skip Intro

Am I the only one who continues to be amazed at how the stock market just keeps blowing off the antics of the president? I really don’t understand it at all, and that worries me a lot.

Presidents don’t have the kind of economic impact that they love to claim. That said, a president who is embattled and facing a likely impeachment/criminal charges at some point should stress the markets. We haven’t reached the point where impeachment is imminent, so the markets are responding more to world events and quarterly earnings reports/jobs reports than they are to Trump’s antics.

For instance, consider the Watergate example.

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sagehen  May 19, 2017 • 7:03:13am

re: #89 ObserverArt

For the agents, art collectors and auctioneers. For the artist…not so much.

As an artist I have never understood how prices shoot up after you die. No love for the living.

For the same reason land prices always go up faster than inflation — they’re not making any more of it.

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b.d.  May 19, 2017 • 7:04:08am
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fern01  May 19, 2017 • 7:04:24am

re: #129 Skip Intro

I think that he’s going to get an ass kissing by the Saudis that would embarrass even Sean Hannity. They know he’s weak and can be used.

I suspect that will be the case everywhere he goes on this trip, and tRump will return even more full of himself than he is now.

I am expecting a big fail everywhere he goes - will be most disappointed if that does not happen. He has no ideas about beliefs, customs, expectations outside of his golf clubs and no interest in learning. I wouldn’t be surprised if he came home early, leaving others behind - with no knowledge and no authority to do anything. Probably his first and last trip - although he probably still wants to go and meet the Queen.

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 7:05:02am
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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 7:07:13am

re: #136 Teukka

That color scheme gives me the creeps.

TVTropes: Red and Black and Evil All Over

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 7:08:13am

re: #135 fern01

I am expecting a big fail everywhere he goes - will be most disappointed if that does not happen. He has no ideas about beliefs, customs, expectations outside of his golf clubs and no interest in learning. I wouldn’t be surprised if he came home early, leaving others behind - with no knowledge and no authority to do anything. Probably his first and last trip - although he probably still wants to go and meet the Queen.

The Queen should tell him he can ride in one of her carriages if he gets universal healthcare passed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 7:09:23am

re: #68 darthstar

Tell Saudi Arabia and others that we want (demand!) free oil for the next ten years or we will not protect their private Boeing 747s.Pay up!

If Donald can present Merkel a bill for NATO services, then he should also present one to Saudi Arabia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 7:10:40am

re: #72 lawhawk

This is entirely BS, or worse, shows Pence failed due diligence at every step. Pence knew or had reason to know

all he needs is enough plausible deniability to get himself cleared by a jury

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Myron Falwell  May 19, 2017 • 7:13:38am

re: #129 Skip Intro

re: #135 fern01

I think BOTH will happen… leaders like the Saudi princes will manipulate and butter him up, and he’d still find a way to blow that advantage through his insufferable vanity and lack of cultural awareness/decorum.

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Ming5000  May 19, 2017 • 7:13:59am

re: #83 Timothy Watson

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 7:14:21am

re: #141 Myron Falwell

I think BOTH will happen… leaders like the Saudi princes will manipulate and butter him up, and he’d still find a way to blow that advantage through his insufferable vanity and lack of cultural awareness/decorum.

I “joked” that the military better have a couple brigades ready to invade Saudi Arabia to extract the President.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 7:15:42am

re: #112 lawhawk

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I’ll take the word over people who actually investigate this shit rather than some has been racist asshole. Funny how FNC loves to mock the left for “relying” on celebrities for politics and here they are pushing Nuge’s bullshit on this, something he knows nothing about.

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 7:16:34am

re: #143 Timothy Watson

I “joked” that the military better have a couple brigades ready to invade Saudi Arabia to extract the President.

President who?

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lizardofid  May 19, 2017 • 7:19:06am

re: #131 fern01

While the media and the world are concentrating on the political scandals, trump and his team are writing out orders and regulations that give open slaughter to companies over people and the environment. The markets still expect the GOP agenda to move forward with or without trump.

I’m not sure why the bottom hasn’t fallen out of health insurance shares - something happening there that I do not understand.

I think the health insurance stocks are a propped up by the fact that it’s a rigged game, because of a lack of meaningful regulation. It’s cost plus. If they lose customers, they just raise premiums on the ones they have. Who’s going to stop them?

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sagehen  May 19, 2017 • 7:21:08am

re: #126 Skip Intro

Am I the only one who continues to be amazed at how the stock market just keeps blowing off the antics of the president? I really don’t understand it at all, and that worries me a lot.

For the multinationals, neutering national governments is a big plus. Nobody can stand in their way.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 7:23:12am

re: #81 lawhawk

This should make the meeting with Saudis even more awkward than it already will be. Of course, Trump will deny this even happened:

Then he will go on to mention all those people on rooftops cheering the 9/11 attacks…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 7:25:27am

re: #99 darthstar

Hang on…this is some kind of Christian revival?

Russia is an oligarchic, authoritarian theocracy. Just what Pence wants to see in the USA, except Protestant Fundamentalist instead of Russian Orthodox.

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 7:27:46am

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Russia is an oligarchic, authoritarian theocracy. Just what Pence wants to see in the USA, except Protestant Fundamentalist instead of Russian Orthodox.

And the two are looking to co-operate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 7:29:19am

re: #150 Teukka

And the two are looking to co-operate.

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 7:30:22am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

I’ll take the word over people who actually investigate this shit rather than some has been racist asshole. Funny how FNC loves to mock the left for “relying” on celebrities for politics and here they are pushing Nuge’s bullshit on this, something he knows nothing about.

This is different because

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 7:31:59am

re: #152 Sir John Barron

This is different because

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He owns a gun and waves it about on stage while threatening Hillary and Obama

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Myron Falwell  May 19, 2017 • 7:34:09am

re: #143 Timothy Watson

I “joked” that the military better have a couple brigades ready to invade Saudi Arabia to extract the President.

There was a scene in Woody Allen’s Don’t Drink the Water in which a blustery, borderline-bigoted middle-aged father nearly destroyed decades of US-Saudi relations in a terribly awkward exchange with a prince.

Woody Allen wrote the play in the 1960s.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2017 • 7:36:09am

re: #154 Myron Falwell

There was a scene in Woody Allen’s Don’t Drink the Water in which a blustery, borderline-bigoted middle-aged father nearly destroyed decades of US-Saudi relations in a terribly awkward exchange with a prince.

Woody Allen wrote the play in the 1960s.

I can guarantee Trump will say something embarrassing, perhaps potentially offensive. Like ask for pork sausage for breakfast in Riyadh.

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 7:36:21am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 7:38:13am

re: #156 Teukka

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 7:38:34am

re: #155 wheat-dogg

I can guarantee Trump will say something embarrassing, perhaps potentially offensive. Like ask for pork sausage for breakfast in Riyadh.

Wiki:

In some countries such as Turkey or the Arabic-speaking Middle East, handshakes are not as firm as in the West. Consequently, a grip which is too firm will be considered as rude.[12] Hand shaking between men and women is not encouraged in the Arabic world.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 7:39:12am

re: #152 Sir John Barron

This is different because

/

Saw this morning that FNC mocked a kid on the Autistic Spectrum as a “snowflake” but be nice to Roger Ailes’ family says Lumpy! That network really is full of classless assholes.

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 7:39:39am

re: #158 plansbandc

took me a few secs….

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 7:40:10am

re: #157 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 19, 2017 • 7:40:37am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

Saw this morning that FNC mocked a kid on the Autistic Spectrum as a “snowflake” but be nice to Roger Ailes’ family says Lumpy! That network really is full of classless assholes.

Hasn’t that been a given for a while?

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piratedan  May 19, 2017 • 7:40:48am

re: #99 darthstar

Pence is like the Nega Race Bannon (h/t to Scott Pilgrim) w/o being the cool guy once you get to know him aspect.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2017 • 7:41:46am

re: #159 Timothy Watson

Wiki:

Yeah, I can see Trump trying his dislocate-the-shoulder handshake with some Saudi kingpin and knocking the man over.

It’s going to be a long 9 days.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 7:42:40am

re: #162 Teukka

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 7:42:40am

re: #163 (Bert the Turtle)

Hasn’t that been a given for a while?

Yes, good point. Not the first time they’ve gone after kids either. Pretty pathetic to call a kid a snowflake when you spent every Christmas acting like Happy Holidays is saying fuck you to someone.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 7:43:01am

Not that any of these right wing nutters give a crap about who they’ve aligned themselves with. They think they’re being patriots and all, not realizing that they’re rooting for the Russians.

And the Russians don’t take a dump without a plan. /

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 7:43:35am

The Fundies have quickly adopted Trump and like clockwork are treating anyone who questions Trump’s will as agents of Satan. Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some bashing of Mueller at services near you.

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 7:44:43am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 7:44:47am

re: #168 lawhawk

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Not that any of these right wing nutters give a crap about who they’ve aligned themselves with. They think they’re being patriots and all, not realizing that they’re rooting for the Russians.

And the Russians don’t take a dump without a plan. /

They won’t leave that poor kid’s family alone will they. Fucking assholes. Bad enough to lose a child, even worse to have assholes who could care less about him push him to justify their conspiracy bullshit. Way to go Lumpy and friends, you’re pushing the Kremlin’s line literally but hey you’re just so patriotic aren’t you?

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 7:44:53am

re: #168 lawhawk

Man, that Twitter account would give the old Soviet Pravda a run for its money.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 7:45:55am

re: #172 Timothy Watson

Man, that Twitter account would give the old Soviet Pravda a run for its money.

The old Soviet propagandists sitting around in their Dachas are probably jealous that they never had anyone like the Western far right to use as pawns.

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thedopefishlives  May 19, 2017 • 7:46:51am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

The Fundies have quickly adopted Trump and like clockwork are treating anyone who questions Trump’s will as agents of Satan. Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some bashing of Mueller at services near you.

This is always the trend, by the way. Come primary time, they always have a “preferred favorite” Republican, usually the most overtly pious one. Once he has been shot down in flames, they kind of waffle about a bit, halfheartedly endorsing a few others, but really stalling for time until the winner has been declared. Then they tell their sheep to get in line and vote Republican, because this man has magically become Jesus Incarnate To Save The World, Dammit! It took a little bit longer with Trump because they had to figure out how to spin away all of the man’s obvious moral and mental failings first.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 7:48:13am

re: #174 thedopefishlives

This is always the trend, by the way. Come primary time, they always have a “preferred favorite” Republican, usually the most overtly pious one. Once he has been shot down in flames, they kind of waffle about a bit, halfheartedly endorsing a few others, but really stalling for time until the winner has been declared. Then they tell their sheep to get in line and vote Republican, because this man has magically become Jesus Incarnate To Save The World, Dammit! It took a little bit longer with Trump because they had to figure out how to spin away all of the man’s obvious moral and mental failings first.

One of those preacher assholes went from saying Mormons weren’t Christians to saying Mitt Romney was of course better than Obama and Christians should vote for Romney.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 7:48:47am

re: #174 thedopefishlives

This is always the trend, by the way. Come primary time, they always have a “preferred favorite” Republican, usually the most overtly pious one. Once he has been shot down in flames, they kind of waffle about a bit, halfheartedly endorsing a few others, but really stalling for time until the winner has been declared. Then they tell their sheep to get in line and vote Republican, because this man has magically become Jesus Incarnate To Save The World, Dammit! It took a little bit longer with Trump because they had to figure out how to spin away all of the man’s obvious moral and mental failings first.

“A Flawed Vessel doing God’s Will.”

In other words, a grifter screwing over the poor and less fortunate.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 7:49:04am

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 7:49:22am
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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 7:50:18am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 7:50:31am

re: #178 Birth Control Works

Taibbi: Roger Ailes Was One of the Worst Americans Ever

Without Roger Ailes, we would not have President Trump.

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thedopefishlives  May 19, 2017 • 7:50:37am

re: #175 Timothy Watson

One of those preacher assholes went from saying Mormons weren’t Christians to saying Mitt Romney was of course better than Obama and Christians should vote for Romney.

To the point: Fundamentalist Christians are party over country for one reason and one reason only, and that is abortion. If tomorrow, Democrats could magically wipe the slate clean and become the pro-life party, the fundies would switch loyalty so fast your head would spin.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 7:51:22am

re: #174 thedopefishlives

This is always the trend, by the way. Come primary time, they always have a “preferred favorite” Republican, usually the most overtly pious one. Once he has been shot down in flames, they kind of waffle about a bit, halfheartedly endorsing a few others, but really stalling for time until the winner has been declared. Then they tell their sheep to get in line and vote Republican, because this man has magically become Jesus Incarnate To Save The World, Dammit! It took a little bit longer with Trump because they had to figure out how to spin away all of the man’s obvious moral and mental failings first.

That does sound right to me. Were they Johnny Come Latelys to the Reagan train too? It really is quite something how they keep people in line. I just love how they’re able to convince themselves and their followers that a man who has been married to the same woman for 25 years (Obama), who clearly respects his wife and kids is somehow less moral than a guy who talks about his daughter in sexual ways. But then again, they did the same to Carter in favor of Reagan in the early 80’s though granted Reagan wasn’t Trump when it came to how he treated women.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 7:51:55am

re: #179 Birth Control Works

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piratedan  May 19, 2017 • 7:52:11am

re: #179 Birth Control Works

I tell you I’m shocked, shocked to find treason going on here…..

your winnings Commissioner Pence…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 7:53:01am

re: #182 HappyWarrior

…they did the same to Carter in favor of Reagan in the early 80’s though granted Reagan wasn’t Trump when it came to how he treated women.

Reagan, whose second wife had a House Astrologer who had to approve Ronnie’s itinerary…

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 7:53:07am

re: #181 thedopefishlives

To the point: Fundamentalist Christians are party over country for one reason and one reason only, and that is abortion. If tomorrow, Democrats could magically wipe the slate clean and become the pro-life party, the fundies would switch loyalty so fast your head would spin.

Yep, it’s all about Roe which I find funny as hell given their initial reaction to the decision and their seeing anti-abortion liberalization laws as a “Catholic obsession.” It really wasn’t that long ago that fundies like Falwell in fact openly bashed Catholics and Jews.

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thedopefishlives  May 19, 2017 • 7:53:17am

re: #182 HappyWarrior

That does sound right to me. Were they Johnny Come Latelys to the Reagan train too? It really is quite something how they keep people in line. I just love how they’re able to convince themselves and their followers that a man who has been married to the same woman for 25 years (Obama), who clearly respects his wife and kids is somehow less moral than a guy who talks about his daughter in sexual ways. But then again, they did the same to Carter in favor of Reagan in the early 80’s though granted Reagan wasn’t Trump when it came to how he treated women.

The degree to which fundamentalist churches and pastors are able to exert control over their flocks is truly disturbing. Looking back on it, I sometimes struggle strongly with my sense of self, like… how could I ever have let myself be controlled like that? What was/is so wrong with me that I couldn’t see it happening?

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 7:53:40am

re: #181 thedopefishlives

To the point: Fundamentalist Christians are party over country for one reason and one reason only, and that is abortion. If tomorrow, Democrats could magically wipe the slate clean and become the pro-life party, the fundies would switch loyalty so fast your head would spin.

Yep, I looked it up and it was Robert Jeffress who made the comments. He said Obama had “unbiblical views” on abortion, which is interesting since nowhere in the Bible is abortion mentioned.

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 7:54:24am

re: #174 thedopefishlives

This is always the trend, by the way. Come primary time, they always have a “preferred favorite” Republican, usually the most overtly pious one. Once he has been shot down in flames, they kind of waffle about a bit, halfheartedly endorsing a few others, but really stalling for time until the winner has been declared. Then they tell their sheep to get in line and vote Republican, because this man has magically become Jesus Incarnate To Save The World, Dammit! It took a little bit longer with Trump because they had to figure out how to spin away all of the man’s obvious moral and mental failings first.

But many of them, like Falwell, Jr, went straight to Trump during the primaries, do not pass go, do not stop for the Preferred Evangelical Pure Candidate. Many of the fundies just skipped that stage altogether. Went straight to the sell-out.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 7:54:26am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Reagan, whose second wife had a House Astrologer who had to approve Ronnie’s itinerary…

And Carter the guy who taught Sunday School. I’m not religious at all but it’s always disgusted me how the Fundies treated Carter in favor of Reagan, Carter actually treated them like adults, Reagan like so many Republicans since then did nothing but kiss their ass. They don’t want a leader with faith. They want a leader to tell them that they’re special and that their ideas about religion should dominate the country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 7:54:37am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Yep, it’s all about Roe which I find funny as hell given their initial reaction to the decision and their seeing anti-abortion liberalization laws as a “Catholic obsession.” It really wasn’t that long ago that fundies like Falwell in fact openly bashed Catholics and Jews.

I read an interesting history on how fundamentalist Christians really got on the anti-abortion bandwagon in the late 70’s. I sure got fed up with all the Campus Crusade for Christ campaigners running about our dorm floors as an undergrad back then.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 7:54:55am

re: #187 thedopefishlives

The degree to which fundamentalist churches and pastors are able to exert control over their flocks is truly disturbing. Looking back on it, I sometimes struggle strongly with my sense of self, like… how could I ever have let myself be controlled like that? What was/is so wrong with me that I couldn’t see it happening?

You’re good now though man. That’s all that matters.

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 7:54:59am

re: #181 thedopefishlives

To the point: Fundamentalist Christians are party over country for one reason and one reason only, and that is abortion. If tomorrow, Democrats could magically wipe the slate clean and become the pro-life party, the fundies would switch loyalty so fast your head would spin.

Only if Democrats also drop support for gays, lesbians, trans, and minorities, especially blacks. The “right to life” movement was created to extend segregation.

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thedopefishlives  May 19, 2017 • 7:55:51am

re: #189 Sir John Barron

But many of them, like Falwell, Jr, went straight to Trump during the primaries, do not pass go, do not stop for the Preferred Evangelical Pure Candidate. Many of the fundies just skipped that stage altogether. Went straight to the sell-out.

True, but there are always outliers. Especially when there are so many Good Christian Men to choose from, it muddies the water a bit. You’d think, if Jesus was actually telling them for whom to vote, He’d be a little more consistent. ;)

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 7:56:00am

re: #181 thedopefishlives

To the point: Fundamentalist Christians are party over country for one reason and one reason only, and that is abortion. If tomorrow, Democrats could magically wipe the slate clean and become the pro-life party, the fundies would switch loyalty so fast your head would spin.

Democrats ARE the Pro-Life party. Republicans are not even the Pro-Fetus party, since they want to deny maternity benefits. They are the pro-death (unless you’re a billionaire) party.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 7:56:06am

re: #193 Belafon

Only if Democrats also drop support for gays, lesbians, trans, and minorities, especially blacks. The “right to life” movement was created to extend segregation.

That’s right. We can’t ignore the origins of the Religious Right in opposing civil rights as a “communist plot” which faux intellectual hacks like WFB were happy to tell them was true.

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 7:56:17am

re: #188 Timothy Watson

Yep, I looked it up and it was Robert Jeffress who made the comments. He said Obama had “unbiblical views” on abortion, which is interesting since nowhere in the Bible is abortion mentioned.

The closest you get is causation of miscarriage in Exo 21:22-25.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 7:56:32am

re: #195 The Vicious Babushka

Democrats ARE the Pro-Life party. Republicans are not even the Pro-Fetus party, since they want to deny maternity benefits. They are the pro-death (unless you’re a billionaire) party.

Exactly, they don’t even support pre-natal help. They’re pro-forced pregnancy and you’re going to like it!

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 7:56:33am

re: #183 HappyWarrior

Dana was also a Taliban apologist back in the day too.

He supported the mujaheddin back in the ’80s. Don’t know if he ever expressed any support specifically for the Taliban after they were created.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 7:56:57am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

And Carter the guy who taught Sunday School. I’m not religious at all but it’s always disgusted me how the Fundies treated Carter in favor of Reagan, Carter actually treated them like adults, Reagan like so many Republicans since then did nothing but kiss their ass. They don’t want a leader with faith. They want a leader to tell them that they’re special and that their ideas about religion should dominate the country.

but he tossed them under the bus as soon as Nancy’s astrologer told them it was time to do so.

At which point, they set out not to let themselves get burned again: they started insinuating their people into all levels of public life: education, the military, public administration, etc., and now they have one of their own a heartbeat away from an unstable President.

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thedopefishlives  May 19, 2017 • 7:57:00am

re: #195 The Vicious Babushka

Democrats ARE the Pro-Life party. Republicans are not even the Pro-Fetus party, since they want to deny maternity benefits. They are the pro-death (unless you’re a billionaire) party.

I completely and utterly agree with you.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 7:57:24am

re: #133 sagehen

For the same reason land prices always go up faster than inflation — they’re not making any more of it.

Land is valuable all the time. Many times art is not even at a reasonable livable value when the artist is living. It only increases once the critics and the markets decide it is worth collecting often times after the artist is alive.

I just see that as unjust and tragic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 7:58:51am

re: #197 Teukka

The closest you get is causation of miscarriage in Exo 21:22-25.

They fall back on Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”

Proof that God does not want us to kill potential prophets.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 7:59:37am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

I’ll take the word over people who actually investigate this shit rather than some has been racist asshole. Funny how FNC loves to mock the left for “relying” on celebrities for politics and here they are pushing Nuge’s bullshit on this, something he knows nothing about.

Big difference. Nuge is not a celebrity.

/

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 7:59:42am

re: #199 Timothy Watson

He supported the mujaheddin back in the ’80s. Don’t know if he ever expressed any support specifically for the Taliban after they were created.

ocweekly.com
Check this out. As recently as Spring 2001, he was meeting with Taliban leaders and praising them while they harbored OBL who was one of the world’s most wanted men even pre 9-11.

“On April 11, 2001, Rohrabacher traveled with [Khaled] Saffuri and others from Washington, D.C. to meet in Qatar with Taliban leader Mullah Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil. The regime that was protecting bin Laden from U.S. intelligence operations wanted Rohrabacher to help increase U.S. aid to it, at the time already more than $100 million annually. Rohrabacher emerged from those meetings to tell Middle East news media that the meeting had been “frank and open” and that the Taliban leaders were “thoughtful and inquisitive” as well as “flexible.”

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 8:00:26am

re: #202 ObserverArt

Land is valuable all the time. Many times art is not even at a reasonable livable value when the artist is living. It only increases once the critics and the markets decide it is worth collecting often times after the artist is alive.

I just see that as unjust and tragic.

My dad passed away in 2010. He had about 200 paintings that were never displayed publicly. Zedushka always thought my dad had great talent and should hold an exhibition but my dad just said he painted for enjoyment.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:01:49am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

My dad passed away in 2010. He had about 200 paintings that were never displayed publicly. Zedushka always thought my dad had great talent and should hold an exhibition but my dad just said he painted for enjoyment.

It’s too bad that he never did. A lot of people have great artistic talent and are often too shy to share it. We actually have a lot of people with artistic gifts on my dad’s side. My dad’s sister is an excellent artist.

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makeitstop  May 19, 2017 • 8:02:13am

Dear Intelligence Community,

Please drop another bombshell today, so as to guarantee that Trump has a miserable trip. I’ve been a good boy #withfewexceptions.

Thank you,
makeitstop

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:03:55am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

but he tossed them under the bus as soon as Nancy’s astrologer told them it was time to do so.

At which point, they set out not to let themselves get burned again: they started insinuating their people into all levels of public life: education, the military, public administration, etc., and now they have one of their own a heartbeat away from an unstable President.

Of course. They also were infuriated with the Sandra Day O’Connor pick. Reagan actually to his credit had a mixed record on Supreme Court picks- O’Connor and Kennedy who granted would have been Bork had Reagan had his original way but also bad ones like Scalia and promoting Rehnquist to CJ.

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 8:06:00am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They fall back on Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”

Proof that God does not want us to kill potential prophets.

Which obviously means God knows who’s going to have an abortion.

“What if God told them to get an abortion?”

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 8:06:55am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

ocweekly.com
Check this out. As recently as Spring 2001, he was meeting with Taliban leaders and praising them while they harbored OBL who was one of the world’s most wanted men even pre 9-11.

“On April 11, 2001, Rohrabacher traveled with [Khaled] Saffuri and others from Washington, D.C. to meet in Qatar with Taliban leader Mullah Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil. The regime that was protecting bin Laden from U.S. intelligence operations wanted Rohrabacher to help increase U.S. aid to it, at the time already more than $100 million annually. Rohrabacher emerged from those meetings to tell Middle East news media that the meeting had been “frank and open” and that the Taliban leaders were “thoughtful and inquisitive” as well as “flexible.”

Jesus, wasn’t aware of that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 8:07:18am

re: #210 Belafon

Which obviously means God knows who’s going to have an abortion.

“What if God told them to get an abortion?”

…or to kill babies? God would never do anything like that, would he?

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 8:07:38am

re: #208 makeitstop

Dear Intelligence Community,

Please drop another bombshell today, so as to guarantee that Trump has a miserable trip. I’ve been a good boy #withfewexceptions.

Thank you,
makeitstop

I can wouch for him,

/Teukka.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:07:42am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

My dad passed away in 2010. He had about 200 paintings that were never displayed publicly. Zedushka always thought my dad had great talent and should hold an exhibition but my dad just said he painted for enjoyment.

Share some of his work here!

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 8:08:28am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Yep, it’s all about Roe which I find funny as hell given their initial reaction to the decision and their seeing anti-abortion liberalization laws as a “Catholic obsession.” It really wasn’t that long ago that fundies like Falwell in fact openly bashed Catholics and Jews.

I don’t think bashing on Catholics and Jews has ever stopped for many Fundamental Christians.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 8:08:29am

re: #214 Birth Control Works

Share some of his work here!

no reason not to share his enjoyment with those who might appreciate it

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 8:09:33am

re: #215 ObserverArt

I don’t think bashing on Catholics and Jews has ever stopped for many Fundamental Christians.

Especially because we have a Pope who sees no conflict between Evolution and Creation, does not believe in Supply-Side Jesus and says that even non-Christians who are good and moral can go to heaven.

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makeitstop  May 19, 2017 • 8:09:46am

This is kind of odd but cool - Final cut: films condensed into a single frame - in pictures

Pointing his camera at a screen and making an ultra-long exposure of the film as it plays through, each scene from a movie is overlaid on top on another until they dissolve into an impressionistic blur - but with faint distinguishing features remaining

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:10:07am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

It’s too bad that he never did. A lot of people have great artistic talent and are often too shy to share it. We actually have a lot of people with artistic gifts on my dad’s side. My dad’s sister is an excellent artist.

Back before electronics …

The arts were an important part of education. People had to learn to draw because there were no or few cameras. Dance, music were necessary because there was no television or radio. If one wanted to hear music, one had to create it oneself or hope a family member had talent.

People shared their talents as entertainment, something to do …

Cooking is one that has survived.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 8:10:19am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They fall back on Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”

Proof that God does not want us to kill potential prophets.

Until they start telling people stuff they don’t want to hear.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:12:00am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

Until they start telling people stuff they don’t want to hear.

Or the mama is white and the daddy is black,

those prophets often are aborted.

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 8:12:10am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

Until they start telling people stuff they don’t want to hear.

Yeah. Jeremiah had it down in 20:7-18.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:14:07am

re: #211 Timothy Watson

Jesus, wasn’t aware of that.

Yeah I remembered reading about it.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:14:25am

re: #222 Teukka

Yeah. Jeremiah had it down in 20:7-18.

Jeremiah was a bullfrog.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 8:14:47am

re: #224 Birth Control Works

Jeremiah was a bullfrog.

A very good friend of mine.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:20:53am

re: #215 ObserverArt

I don’t think bashing on Catholics and Jews has ever stopped for many Fundamental Christians.

Openly it’s more taboo than it used to be for them.

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Ace-o-aces  May 19, 2017 • 8:21:04am

These people…..Jebus!

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 8:22:34am

re: #227 Ace-o-aces

True News…. these people are Russian potted plants.

What’s next? Phrenology to prove that the guy was of a particular racial/ethnic group and therefore more likely to commit crime? Sheeeeit

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 8:24:02am

re: #227 Ace-o-aces

These people…..Jebus!

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Terrorist anchor baby!!!1!

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:24:05am

re: #225 Timothy Watson

A very good friend of mine.

Never met him personally, but I had a toad/frog that returned to my patio 2 years in a row

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:24:07am

re: #227 Ace-o-aces

These people…..Jebus!

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So fucking stupid. He looks quite Dominican to me for what it’s worth but even if he were Arab.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:24:28am

re: #230 Birth Control Works

Never met him personally, but I had a toad/frog that returned to my patio 2 years in a row

Bastard owes me 20 bucks for picking up his tab last week.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 8:24:50am
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Ace-o-aces  May 19, 2017 • 8:25:17am
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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:25:50am

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

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wow, white advocacy.

Grifter picking low-hanging fruit.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:25:59am

re: #228 lawhawk

True News…. these people are Russian potted plants.

What’s next? Phrenology to prove that the guy was of a particular racial/ethnic group and therefore more likely to commit crime? Sheeeeit

Imagine their reaction when they find out that Salma Hayek is part Arab. Hispanics are a diverse people. My SiL’s grandmother’s parents are in fact from the same part of Europe as my grandfather’s but because they went to Peru instead of the US, they’re Hispanic.

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makeitstop  May 19, 2017 • 8:26:16am

re: #225 Timothy Watson

A very good friend of mine.

I never understood a single word he said.

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Ace-o-aces  May 19, 2017 • 8:26:57am

The circle is complete….

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:26:59am

re: #234 Birth Control Works

Daily Caller?

CONFIRMED: Putin’s Election Hacking Was About Hurting Clinton, Not Helping Trump

Of course. If it was Rubio, they would have done the same against Hillary. The difference is Rubio as much as I hate the litlte worm wouldn’t have had his people collude with Russians and spread their talking points like Trump did.

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Eventual Carrion  May 19, 2017 • 8:27:48am

re: #112 lawhawk

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Because that bastion of truth Donald told him so.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:28:02am

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

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White identity? You motherfuckers were just a couple generations ago saying Slavs like me weren’t really European since our asses aren’t as pasty as your faces.

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electrotek  May 19, 2017 • 8:28:15am

What’s up from Detroit everybody! Surprised that I’m here in Detroit this weekend and not the following for Movement Festival at Hart Plaza haha

Can anyone recommend me any Bosnian or Albanian restaurants in the Detroit metro area?

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:28:33am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Imagine their reaction when they find out that Salma Hayek is part Arab. Hispanics are a diverse people. My SiL’s grandmother’s parents are in fact from the same part of Europe as my grandfather’s but because they went to Peru instead of the US, they’re Hispanic.

People can’t seem to reconcile what they learned (or took a class in in H.S.) World History to what is in their every day lives.

People have been mobile since the beginning of people. They made babies!

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:28:49am

re: #243 electrotek

What’s up from Detroit everybody! Surprised that I’m here in Detroit this weekend and not the following for Movement Festival at Hart Plaza haha

Can anyone recommend me any Bosnian or Albanian restaurants in the Detroit metro area?

GreekTown.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 8:31:30am

re: #243 electrotek

What’s up from Detroit everybody! Surprised that I’m here in Detroit this weekend and not the following for Movement Festival at Hart Plaza haha

Can anyone recommend me any Bosnian or Albanian restaurants in the Detroit metro area?

You want to get some real Detroit food in you. I recommend Lafayette Coney Island.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:32:09am

NOW we have PURPLE TECHNOLOGY!!!

How come no one told me?

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scottslemmons  May 19, 2017 • 8:32:12am

I guess I’m a marketing nerd at heart, because articles like this one (AdWeek piece on Axe’s advertising shift from “Perfume for Douchebags” to “Let’s Not Be Douchebags”) are always really interesting to me.

I’d love to find out what brought the change about — whether it was just a case of angling for favorable media attention, or if they (or their ad agencies) grow up, have kids, and realize they should do better?

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:32:33am

re: #244 Birth Control Works

People can’t seem to reconcile what they learned (or took a class in in H.S.) World History to what is in their every day lives.

People have been mobile since the beginning of people. They made babies!

Ever since my family got to the U.S, there’s been some form of “intermingling.” German marries Irish, Catholic marries Protestant, and in my brother’s case Anglo marries Hispanic. And I’m sure if my ancestors lived in a more connected world, they too would have itnermingled more. So called racial purity exists because a lot of our ancestors- not all of them stayed in the same place.

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electrotek  May 19, 2017 • 8:33:10am

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

You want to get some real Detroit food in you. I recommend Lafayette Coney Island.

Is it kosher? I must ask haha

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electrotek  May 19, 2017 • 8:35:41am

re: #245 Birth Control Works

GreekTown.

I’ll check it out.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 8:35:58am

re: #248 scottslemmons

I guess I’m a marketing nerd at heart, because articles like this one (AdWeek piece on Axe’s advertising shift from “Perfume for Douchebags” to “Let’s Not Be Douchebags”) are always really interesting to me.

I’d love to find out what brought the change about — whether it was just a case of angling for favorable media attention, or if they (or their ad agencies) grow up, have kids, and realize they should do better?

GoDaddy did something similar a couple years ago. They realized that over half their business was from small businesses and the majority of those businesses were owned by women who didn’t care for their existing advertising strategy.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 8:36:13am

re: #250 electrotek

Is it kosher? I must ask haha

Nope, not kosher. I don’t know if it is halal but there are a bunch of halal restaurants in Dearborn.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:36:17am

I’m a proud Euro mutt with ancestors from all corners of Europe. Proud of my heritage? Yes. Think my heritage makes me better than anyone? Hell no. I’m just a product of thousands of people and here I am for better or for worse.

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electrotek  May 19, 2017 • 8:38:16am

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

Nope, not kosher. I don’t know if it is halal but there are a bunch of halal restaurants in Dearborn.

I’m not a stickler on halal/kosher personally as long as it doesn’t have pork.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:38:17am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Ever since my family got to the U.S, there’s been some form of “intermingling.” German marries Irish, Catholic marries Protestant, and in my brother’s case Anglo marries Hispanic. And I’m sure if my ancestors lived in a more connected world, they too would have itnermingled more. So called racial purity exists because a lot of our ancestors- not all of them stayed in the same place.

Thing is, there were slaves (spoils of war)

Even if they stayed in one place, they could still make babies with foreigners.

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electrotek  May 19, 2017 • 8:38:57am

Not going to lie, I’m tempted to go to a hookah lounge in Sterling Heights and troll a bunch of pro-Trump Chaldeans over there hahahahaha

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b_sharp  May 19, 2017 • 8:40:14am

re: #225 Timothy Watson

A very good friend of mine.

Jeremiah made very good bullfrog soup.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:40:29am

re: #252 Timothy Watson

GoDaddy did something similar a couple years ago. They realized that over half their business was from small businesses and the majority of those businesses were owned by women who didn’t care for their existing advertising strategy.

One a side note:

I’ve never understood the negative us of the word douchebag.

And, they really are a kind of archaic device. I doubt most people who use the term don’t even know what it is.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:40:34am

re: #256 Birth Control Works

Thing is, there were slaves (spoils of war)

Even if they stayed in one place, they could still make babies with foreigners.

True that. In fact, I found out the part of Germany where I have some family from was a big meeting place for religious refugees. I have distant Swiss ancestry through them.

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2017 • 8:40:37am

FOX has an opening for a new token liberal
Wonder who it will be?
Anyone know if Ed Schultz has a non-compete clause in his RT contract?

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:41:23am

re: #252 Timothy Watson

GoDaddy did something similar a couple years ago. They realized that over half their business was from small businesses and the majority of those businesses were owned by women who didn’t care for their existing advertising strategy.

I always found GoDaddy’s ads tacky even when I was a younger man.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 8:42:32am

re: #255 electrotek

I’m not a stickler on halal/kosher personally as long as it doesn’t have pork.

I don’t know about Lafayette but Leo’s Coney Island is halal.

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b_sharp  May 19, 2017 • 8:42:45am

re: #262 HappyWarrior

I always found GoDaddy’s ads tacky even when I was a younger man.

I have two sites hosted at Go Daddy. I’m not fond of them at all.

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2017 • 8:42:53am
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:43:15am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart

FOX has an opening for a new token liberal
Wonder who it will be?
Anyone know if Ed Schultz has a non-compete clause in his RT contract?

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Wanted: A self hating liberal to smile and agree with a right wing asshole as teh right wing asshole likens the liberal’s side to Marxist-Lenism.

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Barefoot Grin  May 19, 2017 • 8:43:41am

re: #230 Birth Control Works

Never met him personally, but I had a toad/frog that returned to my patio 2 years in a row

I was gonna be rich, I tell you, filthy rich!

Frog - Hello, My Baby, Hello my Honey… 5 min

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2017 • 8:45:07am

oh

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 8:45:40am

re: #234 Birth Control Works

Daily Caller?

CONFIRMED: Putin’s Election Hacking Was About Hurting Clinton, Not Helping Trump

Because one has no relation to the other…

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:46:23am

I want one of these for me!

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b.d.  May 19, 2017 • 8:46:28am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart

FOX has an opening for a new token liberal
Wonder who it will be?
Anyone know if Ed Schultz has a non-compete clause in his RT contract?

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I, for one, eagerly await MSNBC’s hiring of Bob Beckel.

//

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 8:46:42am

re: #259 Birth Control Works

One a side note:

I’ve never understood the negative us of the word douchebag.

And, they really are a kind of archaic device. I doubt most people who use the term don’t even know what it is.

Ah, the joys of ninth grade come back. Some girl was teasing a guy for not knowing what a douche was while I tried to stopped laughing at him.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 8:47:50am

re: #262 HappyWarrior

I always found GoDaddy’s ads tacky even when I was a younger man.

Yeah, I hated their ads even when I was younger.

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electrotek  May 19, 2017 • 8:47:53am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t know about Lafayette but Leo’s Coney Island is halal.

Shit I’ll go to that one then!

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:49:07am

re: #273 Timothy Watson

Yeah, I hated their ads even when I was younger.

Eye candy for the bros.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 8:50:29am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

Eye candy for the bros.

Bros who didn’t even know what HTML or Apache are.

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2017 • 8:50:39am
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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:50:40am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 8:51:22am

Wow the Kushners are only “religious” when it suits them. What a surprise.

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Interesting Times  May 19, 2017 • 8:53:16am

re: #278 Birth Control Works

I posted this last night - thought you’d like to see it as well - it reminds me of a lot of things you’ve been saying:

Facebook Post

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:54:39am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 8:55:46am

THIS FUCKING ASSHOLE==>

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2017 • 8:57:01am

re: #279 The Vicious Babushka

Wow the Kushners are only “religious” when it suits them. What a surprise.

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I posted this last night for you

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 8:57:02am

WHAT A FUCKING CRYBABY

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:57:35am

re: #280 Interesting Times

I posted this last night - thought you’d like to see it as well - it reminds me of a lot of things you’ve been saying:

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Thanks!

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electrotek  May 19, 2017 • 8:57:44am

re: #281 Birth Control Works

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Where are all the right-wing xenophobic douchebags claiming a “rape epidemic” by immigrants and refugees speaking about this?

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 8:57:53am

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

WHAT A FUCKING CRYBABY

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WANKER!

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:58:53am

re: #276 Timothy Watson

Bros who didn’t even know what HTML or Apache are.

To be fair, I don’t really either heh.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 19, 2017 • 8:59:19am

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

WHAT A FUCKING CRYBABY

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 8:59:41am

re: #286 electrotek

Where are all the right-wing xenophobic douchebags claiming a “rape epidemic” by immigrants and refugees speaking about this?

They’re athletes, they “redeem” themselves when they win.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2017 • 9:00:24am
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:00:36am

re: #277 FormerDirtDart

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Josh ignores that he chose to leave the party. There are Democrats like Joe Manchin who in fact are more conservative than he was but Joe decided to support McCain and offered no support to Obama at any crucial moment even though Obama had supported Lieberman when Lieberman had lost the primary. IF they want to play this game, I’ll gladly bring up Chuck Hagel whose record was plenty conservative and fucking Ben Shapiro smeared him as a Hamas ally.

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Dr. Matt  May 19, 2017 • 9:00:54am

re: #277 FormerDirtDart

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Yet he conveniently left out that Liebermann left the Democratic Party to support the GOP and dubyah and their disastrous Iraq war.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:01:07am

re: #282 The Vicious Babushka

THIS FUCKING ASSHOLE==>

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You threaten people all the time you guyl turd.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:01:35am

Poor snowfalke Assenge. //

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 9:01:36am

re: #283 Stanley Sea

I posted this last night for you

I think the conversation went “Rabbi, my dad is Donald Trump. He can’t be left alone or he’ll launch all the nukes.”

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2017 • 9:02:03am

re: #163 (Bert the Turtle)

Hasn’t that been a given for a while?

It’s that way by design. It always has been.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 9:02:03am

re: #267 Barefoot Grin

I was gonna be rich, I tell you, filthy rich!

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Patio Frog

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 9:02:47am

re: #290 Timothy Watson

They’re athletes, they “redeem” themselves when they win.

gah!

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 9:03:28am

re: #290 Timothy Watson

They’re athletes, they “redeem” themselves when they win.

Steubenville —all over again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 9:04:07am

re: #300 Birth Control Works

Steubenville —all over again.

yes, we cannot let a minor issue like rape ruin their promising careers…

/

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:05:27am

Lieberman had a right to endorse McCain over Obama in 2008 but he didn’t have a right to do that and then expect to be treated ike a regular Democrat after that. I commend Lieberman for his past marching for Civil Rights and supporting ending the ban on gays in the military but I have no respect for his record of supporting censorship for media, his non stop apologia for the Bush doctrine, and how he spread McCain’s campaign lies about Obama. He wanted to support his friend, McCain, that’s fine but he was okay with spreading McCain’s campaign lies about Obama, a man who actually went to bat for Lieberman twice including once when he had no real obligation too after Lieberman had lost the Senate primary.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2017 • 9:05:56am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart

FOX has an opening for a new token liberal
Wonder who it will be?
Anyone know if Ed Schultz has a non-compete clause in his RT contract?

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How about Joe Lieberman if he doesn’t get the FBI gig?

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:06:05am

re: #281 Birth Control Works

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Jesus Christ.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:06:33am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes, we cannot let a minor issue like rape ruin their promising careers…

/

Aside from the raping, he’s a great guy. //

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 9:06:42am

re: #303 Skip Intro

How about Joe Lieberman if he doesn’t get the FBI gig?

Bernie’s the obvious choice.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 9:06:42am

re: #299 Birth Control Works

gah!

That wasn’t snark, that’s what the vast majority of sports fans think. There’s a reason that I rarely watch sports anymore.

Hell, during the intro to the Super Bowl, after Roethlisberger had been accused repeatedly of rape, the narrator said he was “seeking redemption”. Hell, check out this CNN story:
Roethlisberger’s road to redemption

Google returns 119,000 hits for “Roethlisberger redemption”.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:06:48am

I mean yeah he raped someone, it’s not like he smoked pot. //

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b.d.  May 19, 2017 • 9:07:44am

re: #306 Belafon

Bernie’s the obvious choice.

Who put the B in the FBI?

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 9:07:52am

re: #307 Timothy Watson

That wasn’t snark, that’s what the vast majority of sports fans think. There’s a reason that I rarely watch sports anymore.

Hell, during the intro to the Super Bowl, after Roethlisberger had been accused repeatedly of rape, the narrator said he was “seeking redemption”. Hell, check out this CNN story:
Roethlisberger’s road to redemption

Google returns 119,000 hits for “Roethlisberger redemption”.

I now, I just *spit* at the whole idea.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 9:08:00am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes, we cannot let a minor issue like rape ruin their promising careers…

/

And, “Why does that young lady hate our town and want to make it look bad?”

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austin_blue  May 19, 2017 • 9:08:07am

re: #281 Birth Control Works

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Good Southern Baptist boys…

Not.

The horror is that, at some level, this was tolerated by the Administration at the school, just as Sundusky’s boy diddling was at Penn State.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 9:08:11am

re: #310 b.d.

Who put the B in the FBI?

Bastard Hoover?

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 9:08:22am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart

FOX has an opening for a new token liberal
Wonder who it will be?
Anyone know if Ed Schultz has a non-compete clause in his RT contract?

Fox has an African-American employee?

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:08:36am

He raped someone. It’s not like he knelt for the national anthem. // Seriously, I enjoy sports but but the fact that Colin Kaepernick gets more anger from many sports fans than rapists, abusers, etc really pissed me off.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2017 • 9:08:50am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

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The Saudis are going to make his favorite dish: burned steak with ketchup - so he doesn’t have to eat what everyone eats. I don’t know if Mr. Trump’s Iceberg lettuce wedge salad is on the menu.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:08:53am

re: #315 Sir John Barron

Fox has an African-American employee?

Stacey Dash.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 9:09:18am

re: #315 Sir John Barron

Fox has an African-American employee?

Not that I’m aware of, Ailes fired Marc Lamont Hill years ago…

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2017 • 9:10:04am

re: #279 The Vicious Babushka

Wow the Kushners are only “religious” when it suits them. What a surprise.

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Is “Rich Asshole” a religion?

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:10:16am

Hell my RW buddy who isn’t even really a sports fan spent a good part of the reason raging at Colin K. We’re in a wrong place as a country if a man kneeling silently for the national anthem elicits more or even as much outrage as a man who rapes women or beats his wife or gf.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 9:11:10am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

Lieberman had a right to endorse McCain over Obama in 2008 but he didn’t have a right to do that and then expect to be treated ike a regular Democrat after that.

McCain would have picked Liebermann for VP but the Religious Right would have rebelled against having a non-Christian in that position. Instead, we got that paragon of Christian virtue, Sarah Palin.

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Barefoot Grin  May 19, 2017 • 9:11:20am

re: #298 Birth Control Works

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Patio Frog

Made me think of Seamus Heaney’s “Death of a Naturalist” about a boy who collected frog eggs to watch them turn into tadpoles—-

Then one hot day when fields were rank
With cowdung in the grass the angry frogs
Invaded the flax-dam; I ducked through hedges
To a coarse croaking that I had not heard
Before. The air was thick with a bass chorus.
Right down the dam gross bellied frogs were cocked
On sods; their loose necks pulsed like sails. Some hopped:
The slap and plop were obscene threats. Some sat
Poised like mud grenades, their blunt heads farting.
I sickened, turned, and ran. The great slime kings
Were gathered there for vengeance and I knew
That if I dipped my hand the spawn would clutch it.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 9:11:41am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

Hell my RW buddy who isn’t even really a sports fan spent a good part of the reason raging at Colin K. We’re in a wrong place as a country if a man kneeling silently for the national anthem elicits more or even as much outrage as a man who rapes women or beats his wife or gf.

And then there’s the problems I have with the NFL (and other sports leagues) hiding and denying the effects of concussions just like Big Tobacco denying the effects of smoking.

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 9:12:12am

re: #282 The Vicious Babushka

THIS FUCKING ASSHOLE==>

But we will continue to selective hack and dump data from governments and other institutions as it suits us.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:13:23am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

McCain would have picked Liebermann for VP but the Religious Right would have rebelled against having a non-Christian in that position. Instead, we got that paragon of Christian virtue, Sarah Palin.

I know. That’s another reason why he shouldn’t be treated like a Democrat who was betrayed. He made his bed. I defended Lieberman in 2006 even though I hated his record on the Iraq War and censorship because of all those things that the guy above mentioned regarding his record but his actions since.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:13:59am

re: #324 Timothy Watson

And then there’s the problems I have with the NFL (and other sports leagues) hiding and denying the effects of concussions just like Big Tobacco denying the effects of smoking.

Kaepernick is still a free agent. And he’s much more talented than Tebow who the RR contends was “blacklisted” for being a Christian.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 9:14:36am

re: #320 Skip Intro

Is “Rich Asshole” a religion?

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garzooma  May 19, 2017 • 9:14:59am

re: #23 Dave In Austin

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Note that part of the services Flynn rendered for his half a million bribe from Turkey was working on plots to turn these thugs loose on US soil to kidnap people:

Woolsey claims that those present discussed sending Fethullah Gulen, a Muslim leader who Erdogan has accused of being behind a failed military coup to overthrow him, back to Turkey to face charges — possibly outside the legal US extradition system.

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dangerman  May 19, 2017 • 9:15:25am

re: #283 Stanley Sea

I posted this last night for you

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“It was not clear on what grounds the exception was made for Trump’s first foreign trip.”

they’d have to pay their own way to catch up later?

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:16:11am

WHY ARE YOU BLOCKING MAH STREETS.

*Kneels during national anthem*

OH NO YO CAN”T DO THAT EITHER.

Seriously, I love my buddy like another brother but he pretty much acted like that black Americans should shut up over police brutality and my real brother pointed out his hypocrisy very well given his constant complaints about the government and his own recreational marijuana use that gets many people labeled thugs or moochers.

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2017 • 9:16:13am

Damn, I really expected an “interim” (no confirmation required) director to be named as tRump derparted overseas.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 9:16:46am

re: #234 Birth Control Works

Daily Caller?

CONFIRMED: Putin’s Election Hacking Was About Hurting Clinton, Not Helping Trump

So let me get this brilliant deduction down.

Hurting Clinton did not help Trump???

WTF?

The logic seems to escape…

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:16:53am

re: #329 garzooma

Note that part of the services Flynn rendered for his half a million bribe from Turkey was working on plots to turn these thugs loose on US soil to kidnap people:

And Trump wants Flynn back. Can’t forget that too. Trump would take back Flynn in an instance if he could.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 9:16:59am

re: #329 garzooma

Note that part of the services Flynn rendered for his half a million bribe from Turkey was working on plots to turn these thugs loose on US soil to kidnap people:

And the DC police refused to intervene to protect someone who was being assaulted because the bodyguards had guns so the situation was “dicey”.

Fucking police chief should be fired for cause for that shit.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 9:17:13am

re: #333 ObserverArt

So let me get this brilliant deduction down.

Hurting Clinton did not help Trump???

WTF?

The logic seems to escape…

BINGO!!!

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Romantic Heretic  May 19, 2017 • 9:17:49am

re: #320 Skip Intro

Is “Rich Asshole” a religion?

No, but they are the saints and clergy of the American religion.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 9:18:51am

re: #327 HappyWarrior

Kaepernick is still a free agent. And he’s much more talented than Tebow who the RR contends was “blacklisted” for being a Christian.

Professional sports are on one hand, a multi-billion-dollar business.

On the other hand, they are seen as a repository and guarantor for American virtues of fair play, team spirit and the striving for personal excellence, and the chance for a kid from humble origins to reach the very top of his profession (and make millions advertising products made by children in Asian sweatshops for eight dollars a week)

And in a nation that wants to privatize everything from schools to prisons, cities still have no trouble reconciling themselves to grant these teams massive subsidies to relocate there.

In other words, they are a microcosm of nearly everything that is fucked up about our society.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:19:14am

re: #333 ObserverArt

So let me get this brilliant deduction down.

Hurting Clinton did not help Trump???

WTF?

The logic seems to escape…

I read as their goal was to harm Clinton than primarily help Trump but you couldn’t do one without the other. Unless, they’re saying my belief which is the Russians did what they did not out of love for Trump but because they wanted to ruin Clinton. I dunno though.

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 9:20:09am

re: #234 Birth Control Works

Daily Caller?

CONFIRMED: Putin’s Election Hacking Was About Hurting Clinton, Not Helping Trump

I thought the wingnut argument was that a) Russia didn’t hack anybody; b) Russia hacked both parties.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:21:01am

re: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Professional sports are on one hand, a multi-billion-dollar business.

On the other hand, they are seen as a repository and guarantor for American virtues of fair play, team spirit and the striving for personal excellence, and the chance for a kid from humble origins to reach the very top of his profession (and make millions advertising products made by children in Asian sweatshops for eight dollars a week)

And in a nation that wants to privatize everything from schools to prisons, cities still have no trouble reconciling themselves to grant these teams massive subsidies to relocate there.

In other words, they are a microcosm of nearly everything that is fucked up about our society.

Indeed. It just sucks because I really beleive sports can play a great role in a society. I’ve been a youth basketball coach for the past several winters. I like to think the teamwork skills we teach on the court can translate to these kids working well with others in school, in general, or when they end up going into the workforce. Plus basketball’s a great game too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 9:21:05am

re: #335 Timothy Watson

And the DC police refused to intervene to protect someone who was being assaulted because the bodyguards had guns so the situation was “dicey”.

Fucking police chief should be fired for cause for that shit.

One of the things that set off the leftist movement in Germany in the 1960’s was the sight of the Shah of Iran’s bodyguards beating up on protesters during a state visit in Germany.

The sight of Erdogan’s thugs acting with such impunity reminded me of that greatly.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 9:22:29am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Imagine their reaction when they find out that Salma Hayek is part Arab. Hispanics are a diverse people. My SiL’s grandmother’s parents are in fact from the same part of Europe as my grandfather’s but because they went to Peru instead of the US, they’re Hispanic.

Hispanic - of or relating to Spain.

I think that makes them just a bit North of Africa.

Do you think that maybe since Spain had good sailors they could have made it across the straights of Gibraltor???

Maybe a little hanky-panky over the years between the people of Spain and Morroco or Algeria???

Then years later some of that mixture sailed to points south where Spain was quite active?

No…couldn’t have happened.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:22:36am

re: #340 Sir John Barron

I thought the wingnut argument was that a) Russia didn’t hack anybody; b) Russia hacked both parties.

McCarthy apparently found it hilarious that the DNC was hacked. The RNC was hacked too but the Russians didn’t have the agenda of weakening the RNC and Republican Party. In fact, I bet if you got some of Preibus’s private emails released, you’d see a ton of fretting about Trump’s rise and the faltering of establishment favorites like Rubio.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 9:22:55am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

Indeed. It just sucks because I really beleive sports can play a great role in a society. I’ve been a youth basketball coach for the past several winters. I like to think the teamwork skills we teach on the court can translate to these kids working well with others in school, in general, or when they end up going into the workforce. Plus basketball’s a great game too.

I disagree with the last part (never liked basketball), but having studied the history, theory and philosophy of athletics, I see that they do have a great potential to benefit society. Just not the way we have come to approach them over the past half century.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:23:46am

re: #343 ObserverArt

Hispanic - of or relating to Spain.

I think that makes them just a bit North of Africa.

Do you think that maybe since Spain had good sailors they could have made it across the straights of Gibraltor???

Maybe a little hanky-panky over the years between the people of Spain and Morroco or Algeria???

Then years later some of that mixture sailed to points south where Spain was quite active?

No…couldn’t have happened.

Spain is a pretty diverse place. i like to think I have some distant ancestry there but I don’t know if the Armada survivors landing in Connemara legend is true or just that, a legend.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:24:51am

re: #345 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I disagree with the last part (never liked basketball), but having studied the history, theory and philosophy of athletics, I see that they do have a great potential to benefit society. Just not the way we have come to approach them over the past half century.

My favorite era of my favorite sports intrestingly enough was in the days when the athletes were more or less regular guys. Babe Ruth was actually a trained tailor. A lot of people don’t know that.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:26:21am

From Reince Preibus:

Seriously guys, Trump is winning these debates. We have to make Rubio look better. We’ll give him a line about how Obama knows exactly waht he’s doing and we’ll have him say it twic to make it look clever and to have staying power!

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DuckDharma  May 19, 2017 • 9:26:34am

What could go wrong?

Donald Trump’s speech on Islam is being drafted by Stephen Miller, who previously drafted the administration’s failed travel ban on seven Muslim-majority countries.

The speech on combating radical Islam is to be given to around 50 Muslim leaders during the President’s first official visit to Saudi Arabia.

independent.co.uk

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 9:27:20am

re: #270 Birth Control Works

I want one of these for me!

Do they have those in a Donkey???

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 9:28:33am
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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 9:30:50am

re: #351 The Vicious Babushka

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Hiding in an embassy is not “detention” you stupid fuck.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 9:30:56am

Fairy God Boss:

When the founders wrote in the Declaration of Independence that Americans were entitled to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,” they left out a lot of people - everyone who wasn’t a land-owning white man.

From that foundational promise, the U.S. was built around making that same group of men happy. Laws, policies and institutions were built around their ideals, their identities, and the rhythms of their lives — usually with women and people of color doing invisible and un- or under-paid work in the background to hold the whole system up. That ideal of pursuing happiness didn’t mean that men felt good every day. It was instead an Aristotelian vision of a good life; one that involved the pursuit of knowledge, personal growth, and the formation of identity through perseverance, overcoming challenges, and learning from robust life experience. It’s this idea of a good life to which women have long been denied access.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 9:31:56am

re: #351 The Vicious Babushka

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someone made children with this anime arch villain?

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2017 • 9:31:59am

I had two quail land in front of me on the street this morning and scurry down the hill about 20 feet ahead of me for half a block before heading through the bushes and to the freshly watered lawn behind them.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 9:32:44am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

My favorite era of my favorite sports intrestingly enough was in the days when the athletes were more or less regular guys. Babe Ruth was actually a trained tailor. A lot of people don’t know that.

before corporations got involved

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 9:36:35am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

I mean yeah he raped someone, it’s not like he smoked pot. //

Said Jeffery Sessions.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 9:36:51am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 9:37:18am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

My favorite era of my favorite sports intrestingly enough was in the days when the athletes were more or less regular guys. Babe Ruth was actually a trained tailor. A lot of people don’t know that.

I studied sports history and the like while working for Gary K Walker, the manager who negotiated one of the first million-dollar-a-year contracts in baseball history for Reggie Jackson.

And until the late 70’s, most professional athletes made rather modest salaries and many of them had to take regular jobs outside the season.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 9:38:22am

re: #349 DuckDharma

Donald Trump’s speech on Islam is being drafted by Stephen Miller, who previously drafted the administration’s failed travel ban on seven Muslim-majority countries.

That ban did not include Saudi Arabia, home of Bin Laden and 15 of the 19 9/11 assailants.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:38:25am

re: #357 Birth Control Works

before corporations got involved

Corporations were always involved but it was a different era.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:38:56am

re: #358 ObserverArt

Said Jeffery Sessions.

In before DD, that’s the honorable Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, sir.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:40:06am

re: #360 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I studied sports history and the like while working for Gary K Walker, the manager who negotiated the first million-dollar-a-year contract in baseball history for Reggie Jackson.

And until the late 70’s, most professional athletes made rather modest salaries and many of them had to take regular jobs outside the season.

Nolan Ryan I think had teh first million a year contract but Reggie had the first contract that exceeded a million bucks. I have a book from the early 80’s with a lot of interviews from guys who played with Ruth who were just amazed at that money. Nowadays, though the money Nolan and Reggie got isn’t even league minimum.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 9:42:12am

re: #339 HappyWarrior

I read as their goal was to harm Clinton than primarily help Trump but you couldn’t do one without the other. Unless, they’re saying my belief which is the Russians did what they did not out of love for Trump but because they wanted to ruin Clinton. I dunno though.

I know…but the stupidity of the thinking that one was not going to cause the other. It is just the nature of things.

I have a problem with the wingnut language I guess.

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2017 • 9:42:31am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 9:43:00am

OH LOOK HERE
This is the “Life Or Death” emergency

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 9:44:02am
63 years ago today, the Supreme Court ruled in Brown v. Board of Education that segregation in public schools was inherently unconstitutional. We honor the legacy of the leaders and communities who made this decision possible and pledge to continue to fight for equality for everyone.

from my fb: Bill Foster

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:44:26am

re: #365 Birth Control Works

Melissa McCarthy’s Sean Spicer Bloopers From ‘Saturday Night Live’ May Be Even Funnier Than Episode

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Video

I love the people intereacting with her.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:45:45am

re: #369 Birth Control Works

from my fb: Bill Foster

And this is why I have a hard time listening to people who tell black people to get over Jim Crow. This is something that happened while my Dad was alive and while his siblings were enrolled in school.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 19, 2017 • 9:45:56am

re: #281 Birth Control Works

————-
Jane Doe’s mother gave an assistant football coach a list of names of people allegedly involved in the assault and asked what Baylor could do about it. According to the suit, after the players said they were “fooling around” with Jane Doe and called it “a little bit of playtime,” the assistant football coach decided it was a “gray area.”
————

What rape culture?

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2017 • 9:46:40am
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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 9:47:15am

re: #372 Eclectic Cyborg

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Jane Doe’s mother gave an assistant football coach a list of names of people allegedly involved in the assault and asked what Baylor could do about it. According to the suit, after the players said they were “fooling around” with Jane Doe and called it “a little bit of playtime,” the assistant football coach decided it was a “gray area.”
————

What rape culture?

I don’t understand why victims choose to keep it “in house”. call the cops!

Rape is a felony crime.

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2017 • 9:50:26am

re: #374 Birth Control Works

I don’t understand why victims choose to keep it “in house”. call the cops!

Rape is a felony crime.

Universities shouldn’t even have in-house police forces. They are no more independent than a coal company’s guard force.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 9:51:19am

re: #375 Decatur Deb

Universities shouldn’t even have in-house police forces. They are no more independent than a coal company’s guard force.

Sergeant Pepperspray’s Lonely Hearts Club Band

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Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2017 • 9:52:25am

re: #373 FormerDirtDart

Back when I was married, the ex and I made a visit to the US…..back in 2002. My dad liked to watch FNC at the time. My ex had never seen it, and after watching it for one hour, she commented that it was the most blatantly laughable propaganda she’d ever seen. That got my dad’s back up a bit, but she took the time to point out the various propaganda techniques used by FNC and how she’d seen similar growing up in Communist Czechoslovakia.

It had an effect - he stopped watching FNC and switched over to CNN.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 9:52:37am
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Eventual Carrion  May 19, 2017 • 9:54:03am

re: #236 Birth Control Works

wow, white advocacy.

Grifter picking low-hanging fruit.

When will the white males in the USA finally stop being trodden upon!

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2017 • 9:57:55am

re: #379 Eventual Carrion

When will the white males in the USA finally stop being trodden upon!

Part of the problem is that damn near everyone in the system is trodden upon a lot of the time. Some more than others.

Trump seized on that to bullshit enough of the victims into picking “fresh” masters.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:58:22am

re: #377 Dr Lizardo

Back when I was married, the ex and I made a visit to the US…..back in 2002. My dad liked to watch FNC at the time. My ex had never seen it, and after watching it for one hour, she commented that it was the most blatantly laughable propaganda she’d ever seen. That got my dad’s back up a bit, but she took the time to point out the various propaganda techniques used by FNC and how she’d seen similar growing up in Communist Czechoslovakia.

It had an effect - he stopped watching FNC and switched over to CNN.

I definitely would love to see the parallels. I imagine creating enemies for the viewers is a big intersection and telling them that they’re awesome.

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2017 • 10:01:18am

re: #378 Birth Control Works

THE HORROR
What Quitting Coffee Actually Does to Your Brain

It’s tough enough to quit drinking coffee after noon each day. I’ve been joking about the decaf after 12 with the owner of ‘my coffee shop’. He told me today that he takes sleep deprivation seriously, because (more than a decade ago) it caused him to be diagnosed as bi-polar. He lost his wife, his kids, his house, and his sanity. Now he owns a coffee shop. And seems to be doing way-OK.

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 10:01:59am

Congress is putting up a bill to basically keep Eric Holder’s rules on drug charges in place, those that allow prosecutors to ignore the amount of drugs to not trigger mandatory minimums, in response to Sessions’ attempt to return to the 1908s: thehill.com. It actually has support from both sides and in both houses.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:03:01am

re: #383 Belafon

Congress is putting up a bill to basically keep Eric Holder’s rules on drug charges in place, those that allow prosecutors to ignore the amount of drugs to not trigger mandatory minimums, in response to Sessions’ attempt to return to the 1908s: thehill.com. It actually has support from both sides and in both houses.

I can’t stand Rand Paul but I appreciate him not backtracking simply because there’s a GOP executive and AG.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 10:03:05am

re: #382 wrenchwench

It’s tough enough to quit drinking coffee after noon each day. I’ve been joking about the decaf after 12 with the owner of ‘my coffee shop’. He told me today that he takes sleep deprivation seriously, because (more than a decade ago) it caused him to be diagnosed as bi-polar. He lost his wife, his kids, his house, and his sanity. Now he owns a coffee shop. And seems to be doing way-OK.

I can get caffeine withdrawal headaches within in a day or so. I only drink coffee and diet sodas which also have caffeine in them.

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sagehen  May 19, 2017 • 10:06:06am

re: #188 Timothy Watson

Yep, I looked it up and it was Robert Jeffress who made the comments. He said Obama had “unbiblical views” on abortion, which is interesting since nowhere in the Bible is abortion mentioned.

Actually, it comes up twice.

In Exodus 21:22, where it’s made very clear that killing a fetus is not murder. (attacking a pregnant woman in such a way as to cause miscarriage, is a misdemeanor requiring financial compensation).

And in Numbers 5:11-et seq, where if a pregnant’s woman’s husband suspects he’s not the father, there’s a potion and ritual wherein if it turns out she’s not been a good and faithful wife God will terminate the pregnancy himself because such a child should never be born.

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Schroedinger's Dog  May 19, 2017 • 10:08:08am

No shoes dropped today so far….I want my Mike Pence gets exposed as the lying sack of shit he is.

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Mattand  May 19, 2017 • 10:09:03am

re: #377 Dr Lizardo

Back when I was married, the ex and I made a visit to the US…..back in 2002. My dad liked to watch FNC at the time. My ex had never seen it, and after watching it for one hour, she commented that it was the most blatantly laughable propaganda she’d ever seen. That got my dad’s back up a bit, but she took the time to point out the various propaganda techniques used by FNC and how she’d seen similar growing up in Communist Czechoslovakia.

It had an effect - he stopped watching FNC and switched over to CNN.

My partner’s parents are like this. It’s frigging torture when we visit. She’ll sit there and keep her mouth shut unless someone like Hannity says something really stupid. I don’t have that in me. I get up and leave the room, and make a bit of a show about it.

I’m just so grateful my dad didn’t get sucked into that vortex. He has a racist streak that comes and goes, depending who he’s talking to at the time, but he doesn’t seem to buy into what Fox sells.

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BeachDem  May 19, 2017 • 10:09:08am

re: #279 The Vicious Babushka

Wow the Kushners are only “religious” when it suits them. What a surprise.

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Yep—we were talking about it last night (and StanleySea was wishing you were here)
littlegreenfootballs.com

I wonder what earth-shattering emergency was going on the weekend of Feb. 10 (other than that party with the tents and the camels)

6:09 PM
Friday, February 10, 2017 (EDT)
Sunset in West Palm Beach, FL

6:13 p.m. UPDATE: President Trump’s daughter, Ivanka, and her family arrived aboard Air Force One with the president and first lady to spend some time in Palm Beach.

postonpolitics.blog.palmbeachpost.com

So they were still on the plane at sunset—
Did they then walk to Mar-a-gaudy?

They are so full of shit.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 10:09:38am

re: #387 Schroedinger’s Dog

No shoes dropped today so far….I want my Mike Pence gets exposed as the lying sack of shit he is.

That achievement comes in the upgrade/patch next week.

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2017 • 10:10:05am
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Schroedinger's Dog  May 19, 2017 • 10:11:20am

re: #391 goddamnedfrank

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Glad I never get nachos at gas stations..that’s just asking for trouble…

Never the less, hope they all recover.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 10:11:24am

re: #300 Birth Control Works

Steubenville —all over again.

I am of the belief that if you go ahead and engage in these kinds of acts, and the university acts to cover up the acts (see. Penn. State), then only a scorched earth approach can work:

The athletic department is completely and utterly disbanded. Players who were not involved can transfer without losing eligibility, and officials not involved can likewise find employment elsewhere.

And the NCAA should make that official policy - violate the rules in this kind of egregious manner, and the program ends. Period.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 19, 2017 • 10:11:47am

re: #351 The Vicious Babushka

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makeitstop  May 19, 2017 • 10:11:47am

re: #391 goddamnedfrank

California officials say five people hospitalized after eating nacho cheese from a gas station.

Well, there’s your problem.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 10:12:18am

re: #389 BeachDem

Yep—we were talking about it last night (and StanleySea was wishing you were here)
littlegreenfootballs.com

I wonder what earth-shattering emergency was going on the weekend of Feb. 10 (other than that party with the tents and the camels)

6:09 PM
Friday, February 10, 2017 (EDT)
Sunset in West Palm Beach, FL

6:13 p.m. UPDATE: President Trump’s daughter, Ivanka, and her family arrived aboard Air Force One with the president and first lady to spend some time in Palm Beach.

postonpolitics.blog.palmbeachpost.com

So they were still on the plane at sunset—
Did they then walk to Mar-a-gaudy?

They are so full of shit.

Like Joshua of the Bible, the Kushners can make the sun stand still!

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:12:25am

re: #388 Mattand

My partner’s parents are like this. It’s frigging torture when we visit. She’ll sit there and keep her mouth shut unless someone like Hannity says something really stupid. I don’t have that in me. I get up and leave the room, and make a bit of a show about it.

I’m just so grateful my dad didn’t get sucked into that vortex. He has a racist streak that comes and goes, depending who he’s talking to at the time, but he doesn’t seem to buy into what Fox sells.

My parents if anything are getting more to the left. I am saddened though by the fact that my great aunt’s kids and grandkids even have bought the right wing crap hook line and sinker. It really pisses me off because these are honestly great people.

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2017 • 10:12:51am

re: #385 Timothy Watson

I can get caffeine withdrawal headaches within in a day or so. I only drink coffee and diet sodas which also have caffeine in them.

I know the withdrawal headaches, having totally quit coffee in the past, but they aren’t bugging me in the morning-only coffee routine. I just miss it terribly all afternoon. My sleep is getting better, but I still wake up too early. It’s a typical TBI complaint, being approached from a sleep-hygiene angle. My theory is that at some point, my sleep will improve enough that I will not miss the afternoon coffee so much. I started to explain that to the coffeshop guy, saying, ‘it’s a dialectic,’ and he said, ‘I love it when you talk like that,’ making me forget what ‘dialectic’ means and what I was going to say. I came back and worked on bikes.

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Schroedinger's Dog  May 19, 2017 • 10:12:52am

Note I carefully avoided making the obvious pun. I’m going through rehab…

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 10:13:21am

re: #393 lawhawk

I am of the belief that if you go ahead and engage in these kinds of acts, and the university acts to cover up the acts (see. Penn. State), then only a scorched earth approach can work:

The athletic department is completely and utterly disbanded. Players who were not involved can transfer without losing eligibility, and officials not involved can likewise find employment elsewhere.

And the NCAA should make that official policy - violate the rules in this kind of egregious manner, and the program ends. Period.

Penn State should have gotten the death penalty for what they did. But those fuckers at the NCAA even gave Paterno’s his wins back.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 10:13:31am

re: #388 Mattand

My partner’s parents are like this. It’s frigging torture when we visit. She’ll sit there and keep her mouth shut unless someone like Hannity says something really stupid. I don’t have that in me. I get up and leave the room, and make a bit of a show about it.

I’m just so grateful my dad didn’t get sucked into that vortex. He has a racist streak that comes and goes, depending who he’s talking to at the time, but he doesn’t seem to buy into what Fox sells.

My mom was a lifelong Democrat. Her last words (according to my sister who was with her when she passed) were “Turn off Fox News”

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Schroedinger's Dog  May 19, 2017 • 10:14:15am

re: #401 The Vicious Babushka

My mom was a lifelong Democrat. Her last words (according to my sister who was with her when she passed) were “Turn off Fox News”

I’ve heard Fox News described as Sesame Street for the dementia set.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 10:14:35am
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Schroedinger's Dog  May 19, 2017 • 10:14:44am

BTW-Caramel M&Ms are like crack.

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Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2017 • 10:15:16am

re: #388 Mattand

My partner’s parents are like this. It’s frigging torture when we visit. She’ll sit there and keep her mouth shut unless someone like Hannity says something really stupid. I don’t have that in me. I get up and leave the room, and make a bit of a show about it.

I’m just so grateful my dad didn’t get sucked into that vortex. He has a racist streak that comes and goes, depending who he’s talking to at the time, but he doesn’t seem to buy into what Fox sells.

My ex really understood it; when she was a kid, she was in the Pioneers and was about to join the Czechoslovak Union of Youth (sorta like Komsomol) but then the 1989 Revolution happened. She was being trained in propaganda…..she had a strong aptitude for foreign languages and they considered her perfect for something like that.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 10:15:23am

my twitter is broken

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2017 • 10:15:44am

re: #391 goddamnedfrank

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I thought gas station hotdogs were the worst. Looks like I was close.

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Schroedinger's Dog  May 19, 2017 • 10:16:11am

re: #403 lawhawk

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“I’m very very fond of this Jesus guy. He’s done a lot of good work. Almost as good as my winning last year’s election. Is he around somewhere? I’d like to meet him.”

(Updated to include Donnie’s constant topic)

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2017 • 10:16:47am

re: #403 lawhawk

Will the Pope kiss his ring?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 10:17:10am

re: #378 Birth Control Works

THE HORROR
What Quitting Coffee Actually Does to Your Brain

I went off coffee a couple of times, both times while on vacation, and it was the worst withdrawal of my life. I recall lying on the sofa, endlessly flipping through TV channels because I lacked the energy to even get up and put in a DVD.

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Schroedinger's Dog  May 19, 2017 • 10:17:59am

re: #409 Skip Intro

Will the Pope kiss his ring?

I’d like to see Frank tell Donnie to kiss his ass.

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Birth Control Works  May 19, 2017 • 10:19:30am

bbl

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 10:19:52am

re: #411 Schroedinger’s Dog

I’d like to see Frank tell Donnie to kiss his ass.

Maybe the Pope can figure out a way to make reference to Pope Alexander VI (Rodrigo de Borgia).

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sagehen  May 19, 2017 • 10:19:52am

re: #317 Skip Intro

The Saudis are going to make his favorite dish: burned steak with ketchup - so he doesn’t have to eat what everyone eats. I don’t know if Mr. Trump’s Iceberg lettuce wedge salad is on the menu.

I also like a wedge of iceberg lettuce; it shames me to have something in common with Pumpkin Pinochet.

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 10:20:06am

re: #408 Schroedinger’s Dog

“I’m very very fond of Jesus. He’s done a lot of good work. Is he around somewhere? I’d like to meet him.”

Which one: “White Jesus; black, African Jesus; brown, Mexican Jesus; swarthy Greek Jesus”?

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 10:20:23am

re: #375 Decatur Deb

Universities shouldn’t even have in-house police forces. They are no more independent than a coal company’s guard force.

It was an OSU cop that took down the guy that tried to run over a bunch of people on campus and then got out of the car with the knife.

Since Ohio State is right smack in the city, Columbus Police and the OSU Police work and train together. That has been going on for years since there were complaints about the OSU police. I think they even work together on crimes committed on campus. It is more like the OSU police are a division of the Columbus Police Department.

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Schroedinger's Dog  May 19, 2017 • 10:20:48am

re: #415 Belafon

Which one: “White Jesus; black, African Jesus; brown, Mexican Jesus; swarthy Greek Jesus”?

“Republican Jesus”

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:21:48am

re: #401 The Vicious Babushka

My mom was a lifelong Democrat. Her last words (according to my sister who was with her when she passed) were “Turn off Fox News”

My mom’s mom is still a staunch Dem too. Same thing with my DAd’s Mom before she passed away. I’ve looked at her writings. She has one part about my grandfather and saying that even a Republican could see he was a good man heh. Funny thing though is my grandfather came from a Republican family as many of the well off in Pittsburgh did in those days. Nana being more working class in her background was a staunch Democrat. I think she managed to vote for FDR all four times. Not sure about the first since she turned 21 the last part of the month FDR was elected but I don’t know if they gave exceptions to people who turned 21 that close in those days. In any case, both her and my grandfather through their influence on my Dad probably influenced my politics the most. My mom’s parents too.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 10:22:27am

re: #378 Birth Control Works

THE HORROR
What Quitting Coffee Actually Does to Your Brain

Damn junkies!!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 19, 2017 • 10:25:12am

re: #414 sagehen

Just cut it in a half-wedge. That’s a big enough difference where we won’t judge you. :)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 10:25:58am

re: #419 ObserverArt

Damn junkies!!!

I still drink my wake-up cup, my mid-morning cup and usually an afternoon cup, but I cut it off at 4 pm or I have trouble getting to sleep.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 10:27:02am

re: #383 Belafon

Congress is putting up a bill to basically keep Eric Holder’s rules on drug charges in place, those that allow prosecutors to ignore the amount of drugs to not trigger mandatory minimums, in response to Sessions’ attempt to return to the 1908s: thehill.com. It actually has support from both sides and in both houses.

Due to the fact that a bi-partisan congressional group has worked on that for a couple years. Glad to see them taking on the Little Fuck from Alabammy.

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sagehen  May 19, 2017 • 10:27:19am

re: #339 HappyWarrior

I read as their goal was to harm Clinton than primarily help Trump but you couldn’t do one without the other. Unless, they’re saying my belief which is the Russians did what they did not out of love for Trump but because they wanted to ruin Clinton. I dunno though.

One of the FBI witnesses at Congress pointed out that it wasn’t just to help “whoever got the R nomination”, it was specifically to help Trump. During the primaries, they were doing similar social media actions against Rubio.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 19, 2017 • 10:27:27am

re: #383 Belafon

Congress is putting up a bill to basically keep Eric Holder’s rules on drug charges in place, those that allow prosecutors to ignore the amount of drugs to not trigger mandatory minimums, in response to Sessions’ attempt to return to the 1908s: thehill.com. It actually has support from both sides and in both houses.

Freudian slip?

/

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Joe Bacon  May 19, 2017 • 10:27:34am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

Poor snowfalke Assenge. //

Happy, I prefer to call ASSange a SnowFAKE!

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 10:27:40am

re: #421 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I still drink my wake-up cup, my mid-morning cup and usually an afternoon cup, but I cut it off at 4 pm or I have trouble getting to sleep.

I drink one super extra strong French press coffee in the morning and that’s all I need!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 19, 2017 • 10:27:49am

re: #419 ObserverArt

Damn junkies!!!

Seriously. If the drug is changing brain-structure as mentioned in that article, it makes this drug one of the really bad ones.

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2017 • 10:28:33am

re: #421 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I still drink my wake-up cup, my mid-morning cup and usually an afternoon cup, but I cut it off at 4 pm or I have trouble getting to sleep.

4? 4! Ah, those were the days…

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:28:46am

re: #423 sagehen

Once of the FBI witnesses at Congress pointed out that it wasn’t just to help “whoever got the R nomination”, it was specifically to help Trump. During the primaries, they were doing similar social media actions against Rubio.

Now that I do believe since I think Rubio, Kasich, and even Cruz wouldn’t have had done Russia’s bidding the way Trump has.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:29:57am

re: #424 Eclectic Cyborg

Freudian slip?

/

Ha so true but actually the drug laws in this country weren’t really that strict in those days compared to the 1980’s.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 10:29:58am

re: #383 Belafon

Congress is putting up a bill to basically keep Eric Holder’s rules on drug charges in place, those that allow prosecutors to ignore the amount of drugs to not trigger mandatory minimums, in response to Sessions’ attempt to return to the 1908s: thehill.com. It actually has support from both sides and in both houses.

Wow, Massie of all people is cosponsoring the House version.

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plansbandc  May 19, 2017 • 10:30:15am

re: #404 Schroedinger’s Dog

So very good.

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2017 • 10:30:30am

re: #427 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Seriously. If the drug is changing brain-structure as mentioned in that article, it makes this drug one of the really bad ones.

Everything you do changes brain structure. They’ve just developed the technology to monitor it. It’s very early in the science. All kinds of conclusions are being made with little or no basis.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:30:35am

re: #431 Timothy Watson

Wow, Massie of all people is cosponsoring the House version.

Well BWS has told us he’s a Rand Paul stooge, so maybe this is a rare time when being a Paul stooge isn’t a bad thing.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:30:53am

I still don’t trust or respect Rand Paul at all but I am glad to see this nonethesless.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 10:32:09am

re: #435 HappyWarrior

I still don’t trust or respect Rand Paul at all but I am glad to see this nonethesless.

There are a few rational sides to Libertarianism, but not enough to get me to support it.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:33:26am

re: #436 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are a few rational sides to Libertarianism, but not enough to get me to support it.

He’s not actually a libertarian. HE just plays one for the kids just like Ronald isn’t a real clown.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 19, 2017 • 10:34:06am

re: #436 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are a few rational sides to Libertarianism, but not enough to get me to support it.

Libertarianism looks good on the surface to a selfish teenager who does not understand the need for government, or that other people are not like they are.

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Jack Burton  May 19, 2017 • 10:34:36am

re: #436 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are a few rational sides to Libertarianism, but not enough to get me to support it.

Libertarianism is astrology for middle aged to newly retired aged white men.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 10:34:46am

re: #431 Timothy Watson

Ultimately, the states want this flexibility because they’re shouldering the incarceration costs, and they are unsustainable. That’s why there’s bipartisan support for drug sentencing reform, and opposition to Trump’s idiotic AG Sessions intent to return to the bad old days of mandatory sentencing.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:36:03am

re: #438 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Libertarianism looks good on the surface to a selfish teenager who does not understand the need for government, or that other people are not like they are.

My teenage brother oddly enough is in a libertarian phase right now. He’s a weird one though since he acknowledges climate change is real and that we should do something.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:37:59am

re: #439 Jack Burton

Libertarianism is astrology for middle aged to newly retired aged white men.

Libertarianism is one of those things that sounds great and then reality btis you in the ass. Libertarians have a lot more in common with how they view the world with diehard leftists than they will ever admit because they’re so smug and voncinced that they’re the intellecutally superior ones and indeed a lot of libertarians I know are intelligent people but they’re too obsessed with tehory and not aware of real life application. I may not be the most intelligent guy but I like to think I’m more a keen observer than some guy who read the Road to Serfdom and thinks that Hayek was right.

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Schroedinger's Dog  May 19, 2017 • 10:38:08am

re: #439 Jack Burton

Libertarianism is astrology for middle aged to newly retired aged white men.

Libertarianism is for people without the discernment to realize that Ayn Rand was kidding.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 10:38:16am

re: #437 HappyWarrior

He’s not actually a libertarian. HE just plays one for the kids just like Ronald isn’t a real clown.

Nooooooooooo!

Next you’re going to tell me Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny aren’t pure white!

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2017 • 10:38:45am

*Goes to back room, grabs cup to head for a refill (half-hour remaining in allowed time), finds cup half full.*

*Tries to decide whether this is a good thing or a bad thing.*

*Warms it up in the microwave and forgets it again…*

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 10:38:59am

re: #424 Eclectic Cyborg

Freudian slip?

/

Good catch. I can’t fix it now, though. I meant the 80s.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:39:23am

re: #444 ObserverArt

Nooooooooooo!

Next you’re going to tell me Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny aren’t pure white!

Oh hi MEgyn :).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 10:39:38am

re: #438 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Libertarianism looks good on the surface to a selfish teenager who does not understand the need for government, or that other people are not like they are.

Exactly. But at least they understand the principle that the Pursuit of Happiness includes any and all activities that do not impinge on other people’s rights or safety.

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Schroedinger's Dog  May 19, 2017 • 10:39:48am

Caffeine…I’ve cut back considerably…Used to have a 4 liter a day Diet Mt Dew habit

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:41:32am

You know the big reason why I decied I value Keynes’ theories more than I did Von Mises? Because Keynes acknowledged that economics was more than just theory. You can articulate theory beautifully for all I care but if ou don’t take in to account two big things) Real world date and that the economy is first and foremost about people, I’m not interested. And then there’s the odd obsession the Von Miseans have with justifying secession and slavery. which I concede is fringe to the Friedmanians/Chicago Schoolers as well.

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2017 • 10:41:47am

re: #449 Schroedinger’s Dog

Caffeine…I’ve cut back considerably…Used to have a 4 liter a day Diet Mt Dew habit

Mt. Dew is the hard-core stuff! Tough to kick. Good job cutting back.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:41:56am

re: #450 Kragar

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TELL ME I’M PRETTY DAMN IT!

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BeachDem  May 19, 2017 • 10:42:32am

Pa.the.tic.

The New York Times reported on Friday that ahead of Trump’s trip to Saudi Arabia, foreign dignitaries have been sharing tips on the best way to deal with the president. A set of clear rules have emerged, according to the report: Keep everything short; don’t assume Trump knows the history of a country, and make sure to compare him favorably with former President Barack Obama.

Perhaps most importantly, leaders were reminded to praise Trump for winning the electoral college in November, something Trump has repeatedly stressed months into his presidency. Foreign leaders were also urged to try and ignore comments said during his presidential campaign and to stay “in regular touch” with the president, according to the New York Times.

rawstory.com

I can hear the derisive laughter from here.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 10:43:02am

re: #449 Schroedinger’s Dog

Caffeine…I’ve cut back considerably…Used to have a 4 liter a day Diet Mt Dew habit

Yeah…that is some caffeine. Before all the sports drinks came out, wasn’t Mountain Dew the highest in caffeine of all beverages?

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:43:13am

re: #449 Schroedinger’s Dog

Caffeine…I’ve cut back considerably…Used to have a 4 liter a day Diet Mt Dew habit

I drink a lot more water now. When I Was in college, I drank tons of soda. I probably only have a soda now occasionally if I go out to eat and that’s usually with something like a burger or something like that. If it’s ethnic food, I try to go with a speciality drink like Thai Iced Tea.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 10:44:12am

re: #451 HappyWarrior

You know the big reason why I decied I value Keynes’ theories more than I did Von Mises? Because Keynes acknowledged that economics was more than just theory.

If we all hatched out as fully formed adults who could be implanted with a basic education chip and then sent out to realize our potential as individuals, than a totally Randian/Libertarian system would make sense.

But as long as we are dependent and interdependent to the extent that we are, economics and society have to retain a collective aspect.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:44:18am

re: #454 BeachDem

Pa.the.tic.

The New York Times reported on Friday that ahead of Trump’s trip to Saudi Arabia, foreign dignitaries have been sharing tips on the best way to deal with the president. A set of clear rules have emerged, according to the report: Keep everything short; don’t assume Trump knows the history of a country, and make sure to compare him favorably with former President Barack Obama.

Perhaps most importantly, leaders were reminded to praise Trump for winning the electoral college in November, something Trump has repeatedly stressed months into his presidency. Foreign leaders were also urged to try and ignore comments said during his presidential campaign and to stay “in regular touch” with the president, according to the New York Times.

rawstory.com

I can hear the derisive laughter from here.

Once again, can Trump supporters stop crying about my generation and participation trophies already? Your guy needs foreign leaders to tell him he’s great because he won the election. You would have had a shit fit if Obama did anything close to that.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:45:05am

re: #457 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If we all hatched out as fully formed adults who could be implanted with a basic education chip and then sent out to realize our potential as individuals, than a totally Randian/Libertarian system would make sense.

But as long as we are dependent and interdependent to the extent that we are, economics and society have to retain a collective aspect.

No man is a mountain. WE’re all dependent on each other in some way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2017 • 10:46:20am

re: #431 Timothy Watson

Wow, Massie of all people is cosponsoring the House version.

Not surprising at all. Massie is Rand Paul’s protege.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 10:46:26am

This makes sense. This is the kind of opening that a president would normally make with a formal/personal introduction.

Then again, this is Trump, and if he thought he could sneak someone into the FBI HQ to run the joint and derail the investigation, he is definitely thinking about it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 19, 2017 • 10:46:39am

re: #454 BeachDem

You stupid fucks. The rest of the world is under no obligation to baby Donald Trump. It’s his own fucking problem if he can’t handle the responsibilities, not theirs.

Do these diplomats not realize how stupid these asinine directives make the U.S. Look?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 10:46:45am

re: #456 HappyWarrior

I drink a lot more water now. When I Was in college, I drank tons of soda. I probably only have a soda now occasionally if I go out to eat and that’s usually with something like a burger or something like that. If it’s ethnic food, I try to go with a speciality drink like Thai Iced Tea.

My drink of choice at home is iced fruit tea with a shot of raspberry syrup. Diet sodas just stick in my throat and are not refreshing, sugary sodas, especially cola, are for special occasions, like driving late at night or anything else that calls for trying to stay awake when I should be resting.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:47:09am

IF the diehard communist’s flaw is not acknowledging that the private sector and free market are capable of working, the die hard libertarian’s flaw is not acknowledging that government can not only work but can protect liberty.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:47:49am

re: #463 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My drink of choice at home is iced fruit tea with a shot of raspberry syrup. Diet sodas just stick in my throat and are not refreshing, sugary sodas, especially cola, are for special occasions, like driving late at night or anything else that calls for trying to stay awake when I should be resting.

I really like juices. I really don’t like what carbonation does to my system.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 10:48:29am

re: #462 Eclectic Cyborg

You stupid fucks. The rest of the world is under no obligation to baby Donald Trump. It’s his own fucking problem if he can’t handle the responsibilities, not theirs.

Do these diplomats not realize how stupid these asinine directives make the U.S. Look?

I think foreign leaders are all taking them in stride. They are under no illusions about who was elected President (in the greatest EC landslide since Lincoln or whatever)

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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 10:48:33am

re: #463 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My drink of choice at home is iced fruit tea with a shot of raspberry syrup. Diet sodas just stick in my throat and are not refreshing, sugary sodas, especially cola, are for special occasions, like driving late at night or anything else that calls for trying to stay awake when I should be resting.

After my morning coffee, I drink flavored sparkling water. My favorite is Perrier Grapefruit but I also love LaCroix Lime.

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 10:48:45am

re: #462 Eclectic Cyborg

You stupid fucks. The rest of the world is under no obligation to baby Donald Trump. It’s his own fucking problem if he can’t handle the responsibilities, not theirs.

Do these diplomats not realize how stupid these asinine directives make the U.S. Look?

He’s the kid from the twilight zone, complete with the ability to destroy everything. What Trump fails to realize is that all of these “preparations” just mean that no foreign leader is going to take him seriously in any discussion. They just have to deal with him.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 10:49:01am

re: #462 Eclectic Cyborg

You stupid fucks. The rest of the world is under no obligation to baby Donald Trump. It’s his own fucking problem if he can’t handle the responsibilities, not theirs.

Do these diplomats not realize how stupid these asinine directives make the U.S. Look?

If foreign diplomats are being asked to suck up to Trump, now imagine what his own staffers are doing. It’s a damning indictment into how delusional and anti-factual Trump is that he must hear only good things from his underlings reinforcing just how good he is, because he’s a needy toddler who will have a tantrum if he doesn’t get his way.

It’s a recipe for absolute disaster.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:49:30am

I think oto many people seem to think they need to view the world in absolutes to justify their principles. I feel content in this simple principle- Some things work better one way , some work better the other way, and some work better both ways.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 19, 2017 • 10:49:42am

re: #468 Belafon

He’s the kid from the twilight zone, complete with the ability to destroy everything. What Trump fails to realize is that all of these “preparations” just mean that no foreign leader is going to take him seriously in any discussion. They just have to deal with him.

Or Little Donny will wish them into the corn field and go back to watching dinosaur battles on TV.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:50:28am

I GOT MORE VOTES THAN KIM JONG-UN, YOU CAN LOOK IT UP!

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2017 • 10:52:00am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 19, 2017 • 10:52:51am

After Trump’s idiotic handshake battle with Japanese PM Abe, the next foreign leaders to visit were Justin Trudeau and Bibi. Trudeau, a trained boxer, blocked the Trumpshake and Bibi blocked it with a Krav Maga move. You notice he hasn’t done that stupid handshake any more.

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Kragar  May 19, 2017 • 10:53:29am
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:55:05am

re: #475 Kragar

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Maybe if McCArthy spent last tiem giggling like a schoolgirl with Ryan and Scalise, he’d know what he as doing.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2017 • 10:55:34am
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BeachDem  May 19, 2017 • 10:55:56am

JFC, AP—it’s NINE fucking days, not BEHEMOTH or GRUELING or DIFFICULT—he’s supposedly the president, not a pre-schooler:

Even before Trump’s trip morphed from a quick jaunt to Europe into a nine-day behemoth, White House aides were on edge about how the president would take to grueling pressures of foreign travel: the time zone changes, the unfamiliar hotels, the local delicacies. Two officials said they feared that a difficult trip might even lead the president to hand off future traveling duties to Vice President Mike Pence.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2017 • 10:56:55am

re: #477 Stanley Sea

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Watch - Hillary

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Joe Bacon  May 19, 2017 • 10:57:52am

re: #373 FormerDirtDart

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My whole family was brainwashed by Ailes and his allies in the Religious Right Pulpit Pimps.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 10:58:07am

re: #479 Stanley Sea

That clip would have been perfect, had Hillary gone for a judo throw.

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Decatur Deb  May 19, 2017 • 10:58:12am

re: #473 wrenchwench

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See #380

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 10:58:15am

re: #478 BeachDem

JFC, AP—it’s NINE fucking days, not BEHEMOTH or GRUELING or DIFFICULT—he’s supposedly the president, not a pre-schooler:

Even before Trump’s trip morphed from a quick jaunt to Europe into a nine-day behemoth, White House aides were on edge about how the president would take to grueling pressures of foreign travel: the time zone changes, the unfamiliar hotels, the local delicacies. Two officials said they feared that a difficult trip might even lead the president to hand off future traveling duties to Vice President Mike Pence.

talkingpointsmemo.com

It’s almost like he was unprepared to be President. If only we had someone who was to choose from!

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 10:59:25am

re: #477 Stanley Sea

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jeffreyw  May 19, 2017 • 11:00:39am

Lunch! Taco with sous vide pork belly, scrambled egg, lettuce, and tomato.

Imgur

Imgur

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 11:01:15am

re: #480 Joe Bacon

My whole family was brainwashed by Ailes and his allies in the Religious Right Pulpit Pimps.

You’ve mentioned it before. That’s just awful especially given you’ve talked about the older generation’s involvement in the Underground Railroad and UMWA. Most of my close family is liberal but some of my more distant cousins are right wing and man I hate seeing it because these are decent peple who have been conned by right wing bullshit. What really gets me is even the younger ones like my mom’s cousins sons and daughters are Trump fans. The only not a Trump fan is my grandma’s sister. A lot of it is because of abortion but I really wish they would ask themselves if Trump gives a fuck about newborn children. I know my cousins do. My one cousin is a nurse and her brother adopted children. Two things, I can never see Trump or anyone in his family doing.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2017 • 11:03:48am

re: #485 jeffreyw

Lunch! Taco with sous vide pork belly, scrambled egg, lettuce, and tomato.

[Embedded content]

YUM

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petesh  May 19, 2017 • 11:05:07am

re: #462 Eclectic Cyborg

You stupid fucks. The rest of the world is under no obligation to baby Donald Trump. It’s his own fucking problem if he can’t handle the responsibilities, not theirs.

Do these diplomats not realize how stupid these asinine directives make the U.S. Look?

Well, everyone else does, so it’s all good. What I’m looking forward to is the speech(es). Most especially, the reaction shots.

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Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2017 • 11:07:18am

re: #478 BeachDem

JFC, AP—it’s NINE fucking days, not BEHEMOTH or GRUELING or DIFFICULT—he’s supposedly the president, not a pre-schooler:

Even before Trump’s trip morphed from a quick jaunt to Europe into a nine-day behemoth, White House aides were on edge about how the president would take to grueling pressures of foreign travel: the time zone changes, the unfamiliar hotels, the local delicacies. Two officials said they feared that a difficult trip might even lead the president to hand off future traveling duties to Vice President Mike Pence.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Someone over here in Europe needs to give Trump a can of surströmming.

Heh.

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Kragar  May 19, 2017 • 11:08:16am
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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 11:08:24am

re: #489 Dr Lizardo

Someone over here in Europe needs to give Trump a can of surströmming.

Heh.

No. Hákarl.

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 11:08:47am

re: #478 BeachDem

the unfamiliar hotels

He probably has trouble with unfamiliar bathrooms.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2017 • 11:09:30am
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Mike Lamb  May 19, 2017 • 11:10:03am

re: #478 BeachDem

JFC, AP—it’s NINE fucking days, not BEHEMOTH or GRUELING or DIFFICULT—he’s supposedly the president, not a pre-schooler:

Even before Trump’s trip morphed from a quick jaunt to Europe into a nine-day behemoth, White House aides were on edge about how the president would take to grueling pressures of foreign travel: the time zone changes, the unfamiliar hotels, the local delicacies. Two officials said they feared that a difficult trip might even lead the president to hand off future traveling duties to Vice President Mike Pence.

talkingpointsmemo.com

I’m taking my 3 year old to Europe this summer, and this is the exact list of concerns that I have.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 11:10:07am

re: #490 Kragar

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Can you say, losers? Yep.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2017 • 11:10:26am

re: #490 Kragar

Media Matters ✔ @mmfa
Professional trolls Chuck Johnson and Mike Cernovich are launching websites to harass journalists: mm4a.org
2:06 PM - 19 May 2017
12 12 Retweets 6 6 likes

Wait…I thought these two knuckledraggerheads consider themselves journalists?

Are they going to harass themselves and/or each other?

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 11:10:30am

re: #493 lawhawk

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Uh huh.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 11:11:10am

re: #494 Mike Lamb

I’m taking my 3 year old to Europe this summer, and this is the exact list of concerns that I have.

Which is completely understandable and I bet your three year old is more well behaved than Trump is too.

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 11:11:28am

Gabe Ortiz has an article at Daily Kos about a family whose father is in ICE detention. Check this out from the story mentioned:

Kevin and his siblings’ only means of contact with their father is the telephone. Ramos calls for a couple of minutes every day, and the children must behave when they’re talking to him—if they cry, the detention officers cut the call. Sometimes when Ramos is on the phone, Heras calls his mother in Guatemala and holds the two phones together so they can talk.

Such a Christian nation we are.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 11:12:35am

re: #499 Belafon

Gabe Ortiz has an article at Daily Kos about a family whose father is in ICE detention. Check this out from the story mentioned:

Such a Christian nation we are.

And if you ever read the comments on stories like this, a lot of people think people like the Ramoses are getting what they “deserve.”

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Kragar  May 19, 2017 • 11:14:04am
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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 11:16:11am

re: #493 lawhawk

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She can share all those great tricks she learned by being a working woman.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2017 • 11:16:50am
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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 11:16:52am
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garzooma  May 19, 2017 • 11:22:44am

re: #334 HappyWarrior

And Trump wants Flynn back. Can’t forget that too. Trump would take back Flynn in an instance if he could.

Turkey has apparently concluded that Trump is still open for business. Erdogan did the “mention the election victory to the simpleton” thing not once but twice. And the bagman for Turkey’s bribe to Flynn, Ekim Alptekin, runs the Turkey-U.S. Business Council which moved the annual meeting it will be holding this Sunday to the Trump International Hotel this year.

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Timothy Watson  May 19, 2017 • 11:23:02am

re: #504 jaunte

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Do Presidents routinely use pictures of them on Air Force One for campaign purposes?

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 11:24:37am

re: #504 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Sounding more like your boss everyday, Mikey.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 19, 2017 • 11:25:21am

re: #485 jeffreyw

Lunch! Taco with sous vide pork belly, scrambled egg, lettuce, and tomato

Souls vide pork belly is manna of the gods (ok, that’s redundant, but worthy) and makes the most awesomest tacos, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2017 • 11:26:20am
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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 11:27:19am

re: #506 Timothy Watson

Do Presidents routinely use pictures of them in Air Force One for campaign purposes?

I think the rightwing theory is, if Trump doesn’t know about the Hatch act, he’s not subject to it.

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2017 • 11:29:15am

re: #504 jaunte

Chickenhawking is the term used to refer to armchair patriots (usually GOP) whose verbal enthusiasm for military service by others is directly proportional to their personal dedication to avoiding military service.

I think this can be generalized to all aspects of the conservative movement. We have fiscal chickenhawks who want their tax cuts but don’t have the stomach for corresponding budget cuts (especially to military spending). We have abortion chickenhawks who supposedly want fewer abortions, but who oppose policies that are known to lead to fewer abortions. Etc.

These pieces of crap are cowardly little puddles of fear-puke.

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Kragar  May 19, 2017 • 11:29:37am

re: #509 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I cannot.  May 19, 2017 • 11:29:52am

re: #503 Backwoods_Sleuth

There MIGHT be a bit more there. Rosenstein might be “a survivor” as Comey said, but after being sent to polish Trump’s bus axles, he might be a little bit pissed, and a LOT sneaky…more memos might be incoming.

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2017 • 11:30:11am

re: #509 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is that image real or a shop-job?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 19, 2017 • 11:30:35am

re: #489 Dr Lizardo

Someone over here in Europe needs to give Trump a can of surströmming.

Heh.

Here’s Buzz Feed’s version of the surströmming first meeting video. There a billion (at least) out there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2017 • 11:32:00am

re: #514 EPR-radar

Is that image real or a shop-job?

shopped, no doubt

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Sir John Barron  May 19, 2017 • 11:36:02am

re: #478 BeachDem

JFC, AP—it’s NINE fucking days, not BEHEMOTH or GRUELING or DIFFICULT—he’s supposedly the president, not a pre-schooler:

Even before Trump’s trip morphed from a quick jaunt to Europe into a nine-day behemoth, White House aides were on edge about how the president would take to grueling pressures of foreign travel: the time zone changes, the unfamiliar hotels, the local delicacies. Two officials said they feared that a difficult trip might even lead the president to hand off future traveling duties to Vice President Mike Pence.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Hey man, unfamiliar hotels will kill ya, man. I have hotels. Believe me. I don’t want to have to just stay anywhere. How sure can I be that the hotels will be quality hotels, know what I mean?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 19, 2017 • 11:36:37am

re: #507 HappyWarrior

Sounding more like your boss everyday, Mikey.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump himself wrote that and had it posted to Pences account.

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BeachDem  May 19, 2017 • 11:52:49am

re: #511 EPR-radar

Chickenhawking is the term used to refer to armchair patriots (usually GOP) whose verbal enthusiasm for military service by others is directly proportional to their personal dedication to avoiding military service.

I think this can be generalized to all aspects of the conservative movement. We have fiscal chickenhawks who want their tax cuts but don’t have the stomach for corresponding budget cuts (especially to military spending). We have abortion chickenhawks who supposedly want fewer abortions, but who oppose policies that are known to lead to fewer abortions. Etc.

These pieces of crap are cowardly little puddles of fear-puke.

My favorite picture of Newt:

Who are you calling arrogant?

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