And Now, a Very Fun(ky) Short Song From Louis Cole: “Blimp”

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While we wait for Donald Trump’s plane to land so he can disembark (gingerly) and cut loose with whatever bad craziness he’s been storing up during the flight, here’s a very funky short song from Louis Cole.

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179 comments

1
klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2017 • 7:07:37pm

Also probably got missed in the Friday afternoon news dumps today:

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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 7:10:11pm

re: #1 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The daily news-item-density is so high that important stories are just missed by the masses.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2017 • 7:11:57pm

re: #1 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Here’s hoping that project goes belly up and takes the Kushners with it.

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 7:12:06pm

re: #2 freetoken

And in the last thread it was remarked that the nation was exhausted from Nixon/Watergate.

Too young to have been there but this shit here is absolutely remarkable!

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2017 • 7:14:41pm
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thedopefishlives  May 19, 2017 • 7:15:33pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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And Trump says it was a mistake to fire him. Things that make you go hmm.

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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 7:16:23pm

re: #4 JordanRules

I remember watching the Watergate hearings on TV. At the time I didn’t quite understand the details, but the big picture was clear enough.

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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 7:16:49pm

Apparently un-masking your opponent is an instant DQ in CMLL.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2017 • 7:16:53pm

re: #2 freetoken

The daily news-item-density is so high that important stories are just missed by the masses.

I’m trying to make sure I grab the important ones I see go by on Twitter that I haven’t seen posted here yet.

But this is turning into a full time job and I still have writing to do.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2017 • 7:16:54pm
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nines09  May 19, 2017 • 7:17:51pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

I hope you are wrong for all the right reasons…as in so far…

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 7:18:37pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2017 • 7:21:19pm

re: #7 freetoken

I remember watching the Watergate hearings on TV. At the time I didn’t quite understand the details, but the big picture was clear enough.

In Watergate we had a basically competent president who was also a crook who got busted for the cover-up of the Watergate burglary.

Now we have Trump, who is not yet proven to be a crook (but almost certainly is). What is already certain about Trump is that he is an infantile narcissist who has no business being in the same hemisphere as the US nuclear launch codes. This by itself is sufficient reason to impeach Trump and remove him from office, but GOP crap stains in Congress are preventing this.

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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 7:21:36pm

When watching the Watergate hearings, I was too young to appreciate the importance of John Dean. After all, if Congress was going after Nixon, why the big deal over just a lawyer?

Now I realize that building a house of lies means unlodging even one small stick can bring the whole thing down.

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 7:23:08pm

re: #14 freetoken

When watching the Watergate hearings, I was too young to appreciate the importance of John Dean. After all, if Congress was going after Nixon, why the big deal over just a lawyer?

Now I realize that building a house of lies means unlodging even one small stick can bring the whole thing down.

House of Cards. One false pull or placement of a card and…

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2017 • 7:23:12pm

re: #12 jaunte

That chyron. It’s 50% of the way to a whack job story about UFOs and aliens with rectal probes the size of fire hydrants.

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austin_blue  May 19, 2017 • 7:24:24pm

re: #6 thedopefishlives

And Trump says it was a mistake to fire him. Things that make you go hmm.

Flynn was his Teddy Bear, his Pacifier. The man had his nose so far up Drumpf’s ass he could smell his breath.

He was loyal. Drumpf trusted him. Drumpf did, and still does, need him.

This is not a difficult concept. Pathological, yes, but not difficult. Drumpf is the personification of a completely unhinged id.

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2017 • 7:25:16pm

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 7:25:30pm

re: #16 EPR-radar

It’s not unreasonable to expect Fox to start running Aliens and sea monster stories as the days march on and more and more stories come out about Trump and his gang.

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lockjawcanbefun  May 19, 2017 • 7:25:36pm

re: #8 freetoken

The consequences are worse than a DQ if you’re a fan attempting it:

la park golpea aficionado

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2017 • 7:25:45pm

re: #14 freetoken

When watching the Watergate hearings, I was too young to appreciate the importance of John Dean. After all, if Congress was going after Nixon, why the big deal over just a lawyer?

Now I realize that building a house of lies means unlodging even one small stick can bring the whole thing down.

I think much more direct methods can be employed this time around. National security taps on the phones of Trump and his top officials seems like a no brainer, and with this merry band of morons you’d shortly have all the evidence in the world. Even if the natsec tap transcripts themselves aren’t admissible evidence, they should give enough information for search warrants etc.

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 7:26:42pm

re: #16 EPR-radar

Too much detail. Should have been “Trump Bragged About Obstruction To Russian Spymaster”

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 7:26:45pm

re: #18 FormerDirtDart

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 7:27:23pm
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makeitstop  May 19, 2017 • 7:27:26pm

re: #18 FormerDirtDart

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Only funny because it’s true.

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 7:27:46pm

re: #23 Teukka

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Woah:

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2017 • 7:27:49pm

re: #23 Teukka

Should apologize for having Lord on ever.

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2017 • 7:28:10pm

re: #22 jaunte

Too much detail. Should have been “Trump Bragged About Obstruction To Russian Spymaster”

But “easing ‘great pressure’ from probe” is the art here.

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 7:28:48pm

re: #28 EPR-radar

The chyron operators are having some fun.

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mmmirele  May 19, 2017 • 7:30:46pm

Wow…it turns out Greg Gianforte, the Republican contender for Montana’s seat in the House, is a friend of the notorious right wing bigot pastor Douglas Wilson.

Gianforte has previously distanced himself from Wilson, telling The Huffington Post through a campaign spokesman last fall that he was “unfamiliar with Mr. Wilson’s writings outside of their mutual involvement” in the Christian school organization that reports more than 200 members.

missoulian.com

Don’t be fooled by Gianforte’s statement that he really didn’t know Wilson. The way Wilson controls his tiny denomination and the schools he’s founded, he knows Gianforte very well. There’s more than just smoke here, someone needs to do some digging!

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2017 • 7:31:29pm

re: #29 jaunte

The chyron operators are having some fun.

Indeed they are, and I underestimated their work. ‘firing nut job Comey’ is also important.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2017 • 7:32:15pm

Chuck C. Johnson is now smearing the MOTHER of a New York Times reporter. Not gonna link.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2017 • 7:33:34pm

One bombshell after another.

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austin_blue  May 19, 2017 • 7:33:42pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson is now smearing the MOTHER of a New York Times reporter. Not gonna link.

Of course he is. He’ll ask for doxing info next, the pissant floor-shitter.

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TedStriker  May 19, 2017 • 7:34:14pm
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EPR-radar  May 19, 2017 • 7:34:58pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

This is reporting from the Wall Street Journal. It would be good to see that paper turn decisively against Trump.

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 7:35:33pm

re: #35 TedStriker

It’s not like he shot someone on 5th Avenue, or even bragged about being able to do it without consequence.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2017 • 7:35:43pm
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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2017 • 7:37:05pm
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austin_blue  May 19, 2017 • 7:37:49pm

re: #36 EPR-radar

This is reporting from the Wall Street Journal. It would be good to see that paper turn decisively against Trump.

Ailes may be dead, but Murdoch isn’t.

Now, if it came down to supporting Drumpf or being allowed to acquire the Sky networks in the UK, Orange Foolius would be a dead man walking in the WSJ.

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Jay C  May 19, 2017 • 7:38:21pm

re: #18 FormerDirtDart

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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At least he apologized. Can’t imagine any of the Fox Yammering Heads doing that.

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Dr. Matt  May 19, 2017 • 7:38:32pm

So what time does AF1 land ?

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2017 • 7:38:55pm

Our fucking media is a bunch of gutless numpties. Stand up, you fucking overpaid blow-dried losers. Do your fucking jobs.

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thedopefishlives  May 19, 2017 • 7:38:58pm

re: #42 Dr. Matt

So what time does AF1 land ?

Oh, you’ll know

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 7:39:30pm

The apology actually pisses me off. Lord shouldn’t even be on CNN. Sigh. Racist ass.

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Joe Bacon  May 19, 2017 • 7:39:37pm

re: #34 austin_blue

Of course he is. He’ll ask for doxing info next, the pissant floor-shitter.

Karma can’t come soon enough to bite that floorpooper in the ass!

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Amory Blaine  May 19, 2017 • 7:40:45pm

It would be the best and bigliest dump the world has ever seen. Prerolled in gold glitter.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2017 • 7:41:56pm

re: #45 JordanRules

The apology actually pisses me off. Lord shouldn’t even be on CNN. Sigh. Racist ass.

Look, I can understand why Anderson apologized. He holds himself to certain standards. It’s not about Lord. It’s not about anyone else. It’s about the level of professionalism that he wants to maintain and he failed, in his own assessment.

It’s a sign of personal principles/standards and if we’re going to try and demand politicians and journalists have them, it’s not a good show to turn around and get pissed off every time someone acts in accordance with them.

I would do the same thing in his shoes.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2017 • 7:42:13pm
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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 7:42:29pm

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

What he should apologize for is having Lord on in the first place.

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 7:42:42pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

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Or should it be a
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thedopefishlives  May 19, 2017 • 7:43:37pm

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Look, I can understand why Anderson apologized. He holds himself to certain standards. It’s not about Lord. It’s not about anyone else. It’s about the level of professionalism that he wants to maintain and he failed, in his own assessment.

It’s a sign of personal principles/standards and if we’re going to try and demand politicians and journalists have them, it’s not a good show to turn around and get pissed off every time someone acts in accordance with them.

I would do the same thing in his shoes.

I would too, and I respect him for it. Sounds weird - I respect him for saying it, and I respect him for apologizing.

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MsJ  May 19, 2017 • 7:44:33pm

re: #45 JordanRules

The apology actually pisses me off. Lord shouldn’t even be on CNN. Sigh. Racist ass.

Me too. Why is that lying piece of shit “an important voice”? Here’s not. Not at all.

Jesus.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2017 • 7:44:52pm

re: #50 freetoken

What he should apologize for is having Lord on in the first place.

Was that his decision? I don’t know. If it was, then I agree. If not, then I’m not going to shit all over him for something he has no control over.

He’s human. I absolutely understand (and empathize with) his outburst. I also understand why he felt the need to apologize.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 19, 2017 • 7:45:44pm

re: #50 freetoken

What he should apologize for is having Lord on in the first place.

This

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austin_blue  May 19, 2017 • 7:45:48pm

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Look, I can understand why Anderson apologized. He holds himself to certain standards. It’s not about Lord. It’s not about anyone else. It’s about the level of professionalism that he wants to maintain and he failed, in his own assessment.

It’s a sign of personal principles/standards and if we’re going to try and demand politicians and journalists have them, it’s not a good show to turn around and get pissed off every time someone acts in accordance with them.

I would do the same thing in his shoes.

This!

He got frustrated and lost it for a second and properly apologized. Every damned news outlet cannot descend to the level of Faux News, as tempting as it is to punch every Drumpf apologist in the mouth at every opportunity. Someone has to be the adult in the room.

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 7:46:56pm

A thought hit me, and it feels strange…
I take secrecy and NDA’s more seriously than the president of the United States.

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Dr. Matt  May 19, 2017 • 7:47:31pm
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EPR-radar  May 19, 2017 • 7:48:17pm

re: #52 thedopefishlives

I would too, and I respect him for it. Sounds weird - I respect him for saying it, and I respect him for apologizing.

Part of me respects the apology and part of me wants to send this idiotic notion of apologizing to RWNJ hacks to the deepest pits of hell.

I suppose the only practical advice I’d offer is for mainstream media to not have RWNJ hacks as guests etc. The only way for a RWNJ to get anything better than an adversarial interview in the MSM should be an enforceable commitment to respect for reality.

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Teukka  May 19, 2017 • 7:48:30pm

re: #58 Dr. Matt

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 7:48:58pm

re: #57 Teukka

A thought hit me, and it feels strange…
I take secrecy and NDA’s more seriously than the president of the United States.

One of the disorienting aspects of the last few months is the realization that 99% of the population take their obligations more seriously than the president does.

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 7:49:03pm

re: #566 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also there was this:

I want to see the White House try this. This would be the equivalent of Obama telling Comey to keep it under wraps. Does he really want to see Mueller become an Independent Council?

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ipsos  May 19, 2017 • 7:49:50pm

💩💩💩💩💩
I STAND (sit?!?) WITH ANDERSON COOPER!
💩💩💩💩💩

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2017 • 7:49:55pm

re: #62 Belafon

I want to see the White House try this. This would be the equivalent of Obama telling Comey to keep it under wraps. Does he really want to see Mueller become an Independent Council?

They’re stupid enough, they absolutely might.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 19, 2017 • 7:49:58pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Our fucking media is a bunch of gutless numpties. Stand up, you fucking overpaid blow-dried losers. Do your fucking jobs.

They shy away because they know they helped make this monster, more complicit than the Russians. Right from way back when every alleged Clinton scandal (BILL Clinton) was money.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2017 • 7:50:21pm
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EPR-radar  May 19, 2017 • 7:50:55pm

re: #61 jaunte

One of the disorienting aspects of the last few months is the realization that 99% of the population take their obligations more seriously than the president does.

99 out of 100 people in this country would also be better as president than Trump.

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austin_blue  May 19, 2017 • 7:51:06pm

re: #57 Teukka

A thought hit me, and it feels strange…
I take secrecy and NDA’s more seriously than the president of the United States.

Strange? It’s terrifying that that position is probably completely appropriate.

We have the Executive Branch of the US being run by a man who, by word, action, and deed, gives every indication of being a madman off his meds.

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 7:51:07pm

Meanwhile, in a galaxy far, far away

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2017 • 7:52:18pm

re: #69 jaunte

Sean Hannity, serving as Trump’s Testicle Cozy via astral projection.

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 7:52:36pm

re: #62 Belafon

I want to see the White House try this. This would be the equivalent of Obama telling Comey to keep it under wraps. Does he really want to see Mueller become an Independent Council?

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Bass Reeves  May 19, 2017 • 7:54:05pm

re: #67 EPR-radar

99 out of 100 people in this country would also be better as president than Trump.

Naw. At least a quarter of the country is stupider and/or more evil than he is.

Also, Injustice 2 is hard.

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thedopefishlives  May 19, 2017 • 7:54:34pm

re: #69 jaunte

Meanwhile, in a galaxy far, far away

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They are so wrapped up in their alternate reality it’s mind-blowing. “Conspiracy theories”? I get it; I’m a skeptic, and Mrs. Fish continually pushes me to look at the other side in these political discussions. But even TRUMP’S OWN PEOPLE are unable to come up with satisfactory, sound, rational explanations. I’m afraid the conspiracy here is the one actually being investigated.

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 7:56:19pm

re: #73 thedopefishlives

They’re desperately trying to keep the dam from collapsing.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2017 • 7:57:29pm

re: #74 jaunte

They’re desperately trying to keep the dam from collapsing.

Or trying to keep the suckers from taking a look outside of the barn.

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 7:57:50pm

Perfectly normal, anyone asking questions about this is a conspiracy theorist!

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 7:59:13pm
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Skip Intro  May 19, 2017 • 8:01:38pm

Trump must be trying to hire all of these Goldman Sachs guys to find out what Hillary told them in her speech.

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 8:01:57pm

re: #52 thedopefishlives

I like that take.

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austin_blue  May 19, 2017 • 8:03:06pm

re: #73 thedopefishlives

They are so wrapped up in their alternate reality it’s mind-blowing. “Conspiracy theories”? I get it; I’m a skeptic, and Mrs. Fish continually pushes me to look at the other side in these political discussions. But even TRUMP’S OWN PEOPLE are unable to come up with satisfactory, sound, rational explanations. I’m afraid the conspiracy here is the one actually being investigated.

A conspiracy is made of up of lies, half-truths, and innuendo.

When the NYT reports that a transcript of a conversation with Russians in the White House, sent to them by a WH staffer actually occurred, and the WH doesn’t deny it, well, here’s a Whack from the Cluebat-

It’s Not A Conspracy. It’s fact.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2017 • 8:03:34pm

re: #79 JordanRules

I like that take.

I also respect his self-control in that I probably would have exploded 47 million times over faced with some of the shit he doesn’t react to. He’s clearly human enough to get frustrated.

I could use some of that self-control when it comes to the afternoon munchies, that’s for sure. :/

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thedopefishlives  May 19, 2017 • 8:04:50pm

re: #81 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I also respect his self-control in that I probably would have exploded 47 million times over faced with some of the shit he doesn’t react to. He’s clearly human enough to get frustrated.

I could use some of that self-control when it comes to the afternoon munchies, that’s for sure. :/

Me, I could use it when dealing with clients. I’m getting better, though. Much better.

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 8:05:22pm

re: #81 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Indeed! I don’t have a high bullshit tolerance. I think that’s okay though, for the most part.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2017 • 8:06:11pm

re: #83 JordanRules

Indeed! I don’t have a high bullshit tolerance. I think that’s okay though, for the most part.

I mean there are a lot of reasons I’m not a journalist trying to produce an ostensibly neutral show.

That’s one of them.

And that’s okay!

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 8:06:44pm

Oh and thanks for the Louis Cole funk Charles!

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2017 • 8:07:20pm
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Dave In Austin  May 19, 2017 • 8:08:08pm

What most of us think…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2017 • 8:09:00pm
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thedopefishlives  May 19, 2017 • 8:09:29pm

re: #88 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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What the FOX?

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 8:11:08pm

I watched Fantastic Beasts & Where to Find Them.

Did anyone notice his character is autistic?

(I also couldn’t decide whether to hide this or not.)

Edit: I went passive voice for a bit.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2017 • 8:11:24pm

re: #89 thedopefishlives

What the FOX?

Speaking of foxes, I saw this video the other day:

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MsJ  May 19, 2017 • 8:11:46pm

re: #59 EPR-radar

Part of me respects the apology and part of me wants to send this idiotic notion of apologizing to RWNJ hacks to the deepest pits of hell.

I suppose the only practical advice I’d offer is for mainstream media to not have RWNJ hacks as guests etc. The only way for a RWNJ to get anything better than an adversarial interview in the MSM should be an enforceable commitment to respect for reality.

I can deal better with RWNJ’s that don’t lie. I don’t care which side of the political spectrum your on… Don’t lie. Because I’ll hate you and never read or watch you again. Left out right.

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Interesting Times  May 19, 2017 • 8:11:50pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:11:58pm

Anderson should have said that Trump could have pooped on Jeffrey and Jeffrey Lord would defend it. He doesn’t need ot apologize but I bet those who insist everyone’s too sensitive these days will demand his resignation and that he be fired.

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 8:12:39pm

re: #88 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Whack-A-Mole  May 19, 2017 • 8:13:40pm

Off-topic but a very cool bit of work:

Facebook

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 8:13:46pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Boycott failing fake news CNN that we don’t watch anyway!!!!!! Boycott!!!!!! We’re not snowflakes tho.
Extreme eyeroll coming…

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Dave In Austin  May 19, 2017 • 8:14:02pm

re: #88 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:14:39pm

re: #97 JordanRules

Boycott failing fake news CNN that we don’t watch anyway!!!!!! Boycott!!!!!! We’re not snowflakes tho.
Extreme eyeroll coming…

BTW has Trump landed yet? Because I’m really looking forward to this tweet storm.

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EPR-radar  May 19, 2017 • 8:14:58pm

re: #97 JordanRules

Boycott failing fake news CNN that we don’t watch anyway!!!!!! Boycott!!!!!! We’re not snowflakes tho.
Extreme eyeroll coming…

The kind of eyeroll that leads to a ankle sprain.

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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 8:16:16pm

Third unmasking of the night… in this case one of the rudos in a trio decided to bail on his compatriots so they decided to unmask him.

Let’s hope this is prophetic of other things…

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 8:16:26pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

His dumbass might be too disoriented to tweet. I’m sure his handlers hope so.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2017 • 8:16:27pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

BTW has Trump landed yet? Because I’m really looking forward to this tweet storm.

What time did AF1 take off? It’s a 12 1/2 hour flight.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2017 • 8:16:30pm
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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 8:17:58pm

re: #91 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s one big litter.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:18:04pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

What time did AF1 take off? It’s a 12 1/2 hour flight.

I think in the evening so probably not. This is gonna be an interesting trip for sure.

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 8:18:41pm

re: #104 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Wow.

Kind of a visual representation of what fracking is doing beneath them.

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Jay C  May 19, 2017 • 8:18:42pm

re: #73 thedopefishlives

They are so wrapped up in their alternate reality it’s mind-blowing. “Conspiracy theories”? I get it; I’m a skeptic, and Mrs. Fish continually pushes me to look at the other side in these political discussions. But even TRUMP’S OWN PEOPLE are unable to come up with satisfactory, sound, rational explanations. I’m afraid the conspiracy here is the one actually being investigated.

Not only “conspiracy theories”, but “Democrats continue to push…”; as if casting the whole Trump-Russia-corruption issue in terms of Democrats-vs-Republicans is going to make the whole thing a simplistic “political” spat? And make Trump look better?

Yet, it’s Fox: this (disgracefully) is probably how most of their viewership thinks.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2017 • 8:19:15pm

re: #105 freetoken

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:19:31pm

re: #108 Jay C

Not only “conspiracy theories”, but “Democrats continue to push…”; as if casting the whole Trump-Russia-corruption issue in terms of Democrats-vs-Republicans is going to make the whole thing a simplistic “political” spat? And make Trump look better?

Yet, it’s Fox: this (disgracefully) is probably how most of their viewership thinks.

Fox wants to make this into a partisan thing when it’s really something completely unprecedented.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2017 • 8:19:45pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

I think in the evening so probably not. This is gonna be an interesting trip for sure.

Look up when the NYTimes and WaPo stories dropped. Wheels up was at most a half an hour before that.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2017 • 8:20:34pm

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Look, I can understand why Anderson apologized. He holds himself to certain standards. It’s not about Lord. It’s not about anyone else. It’s about the level of professionalism that he wants to maintain and he failed, in his own assessment.

It’s a sign of personal principles/standards and if we’re going to try and demand politicians and journalists have them, it’s not a good show to turn around and get pissed off every time someone acts in accordance with them.

I would do the same thing in his shoes.

Sorry, but I don’t respect this at all. One of the reasons I started this blog was to push back against the media’s “view from nowhere,” in which reporters are not expected to ever react to what they’re reporting on.

And one of the reasons we’re in this incredibly messed up situation with a Trump in the White House is because of this view from nowhere, in which every viewpoint is entitled to equal consideration and respect, no matter how willfully, deliberately dishonest it is, as long as it makes money for the company.

People like Jeffrey Lord are gaming this corrupt, spineless system. Anderson Cooper had a brief moment in which his better self simply couldn’t take it any more. And now he’s backing down.

That’s not a win, and it’s not professional. It’s why we’re in this mess.

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 8:26:22pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:27:09pm

Can someone find me the exact quote of Trump praising Putin in contrast with Obama? I’n preparing some remarks ofr my boss and I want to point out that Trump was repeatedly praising Putin as a candidate while at the same time belittling our leadership.

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austin_blue  May 19, 2017 • 8:28:00pm

re: #104 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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A line of storms has been freight-training between Brownwood and Abilene tonight along a dry line. Take a look at the rainfall totals:

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Between a cut-up topography of 200 to 300 foot scarps, low-water crossings, Friday beer drinking’, and “that’s why I bought this F-350!”, there’s going to be some deaths tonight.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:28:53pm

re: #113 JordanRules

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Jeffrey also blames the Democrats for slavery. Anyhow, I just want to point out something historically here. Democrats weren’t the only slaveowners during that time. Plenty of Southern Whigs were secessionists too and a lot of Northern Democrats including many of Lincoln’s generals were in fact Democrats.

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 8:32:23pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

LAUER: Let me ask you about some of the things you’ve said about Vladimir Putin. You said, “I will tell you, in terms of leadership, he’s getting an A, our president is not doing so well.” And when referring to a comment that Putin made about you, I think he called you a brilliant leader, you said, “It’s always a great honor to be so nicely complimented by a man so highly respected within his country and beyond.”

TRUMP: Well, he does have an 82 percent approval rating, according to the different pollsters, who, by the way, some of them are based right here. Look, look …

LAUER: He’s also a guy who annexed Crimea, invaded Ukraine, supports Assad in Syria, supports Iran, is trying to undermine our influence in key regions of the world, and according to our intelligence community, probably is the main suspect for the hacking of the DNC computers.

TRUMP: Well, nobody knows that for a fact. But do you want me to start naming some of the things that President Obama does at the same time?

washingtonpost.com

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2017 • 8:34:04pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

Sorry, but I don;t respect this at all. One of the reasons I started this blog was to push back against the media’s “view from nowhere,” in which reporters are not expected to ever react to what they’re reporting on.

And one of the reasons we’re in this incredibly messed up situation with a Trump in the White House is because of this view from nowhere, in which every viewpoint is entitled to equal consideration and respect, no matter how willfully, deliberately dishonest it is.

People like Jeffrey Lord are gaming this corrupt, spineless system. Anderson Cooper had a brief moment in which his better self simply couldn’t take it any more. And now he’s backing down.

That’s not a win, and it’s not professional. It’s why we’re in this mess.

God, if only it were just one.

The rest of this deserves more of a thoughtful response and unpacking than I can give it tonight (or this weekend). I have a bunch of thoughts on the media and how people react to things (for better or for worse) and different tactics of reaching people, along with musings about personal integrity, but I also still have 400 words to go on the novel tonight and have to make dinner and pack. :/

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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 8:34:21pm

Apparently one of the heart burns tonight has to do with a Robert E. Lee statue.

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 8:35:27pm

Hoooo boy. Hard to read even though I know. It hurts.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:35:38pm

re: #117 jaunte

Thanks.

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 8:36:00pm
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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 8:37:45pm

I’m hearing about 3.5 hours until AF1 is wheels down.

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thedopefishlives  May 19, 2017 • 8:38:27pm

re: #123 JordanRules

I’m hearing about 3.5 hours until AF1 is wheels down.

I will be in bed soon, and when I wake up, there will be a glorious tweetstorm of epic meltdown awaiting me. Is it sad that I’m excited for this?

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Hecuba's daughter  May 19, 2017 • 8:38:37pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Jeffrey also blames the Democrats for slavery. Anyhow, I just want to point out something historically here. Democrats weren’t the only slaveowners during that time. Plenty of Southern Whigs were secessionists too and a lot of Northern Democrats including many of Lincoln’s generals were in fact Democrats.

My brother tried pulling that on me a few months ago. He saw the Dinesh Dsouza propaganda film that focused on the early Democratic ties to slavery, KKK, and racism, ignoring the historical shift in the 1960’s- 70’s, where Southern racists abandoned the Democratic party for the Republican party.

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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 8:39:09pm

Typical:

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 19, 2017 • 8:39:17pm

From last thread: I wouldn’t be too concerned about the whole gay homo thing. Word on the street is Pence is working on a cure. This. too. will pass.

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 8:40:16pm

re: #126 freetoken

It won’t prevent plural/possessive confusion among racists, either.

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austin_blue  May 19, 2017 • 8:40:23pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

Sorry, but I don’t respect this at all. One of the reasons I started this blog was to push back against the media’s “view from nowhere,” in which reporters are not expected to ever react to what they’re reporting on.

And one of the reasons we’re in this incredibly messed up situation with a Trump in the White House is because of this view from nowhere, in which every viewpoint is entitled to equal consideration and respect, no matter how willfully, deliberately dishonest it is, as long as it makes money for the company.

People like Jeffrey Lord are gaming this corrupt, spineless system. Anderson Cooper had a brief moment in which his better self simply couldn’t take it any more. And now he’s backing down.

That’s not a win, and it’s not professional. It’s why we’re in this mess.

I understand your frustration, I really do.

But integrity, in the long run, wins. The zombies who watch and believe whatever comes out of the glass tit from Faux News are unreachable at this point. They’re done, and there is no convincing them. Ever.

It’s the rest of the polity that will defeat the whack jobs, and that means Independents. They don’t watch Faux News because it’s a propaganda vehicle, not a news channel. If CNN descends to that level, it will become what it most despises. Another propaganda vehicle.

I also find it frustrating as hell, and it pisses me off no end. But we cannot morph into what we rightly find is despicable and maintain any high ground.

It’s called fighting the good fight for a reason. I may be naive, but I believe that patience and the continued reporting of Facts will win the day.

And if not, there was nothing worth saving in the first place.

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 8:41:37pm

re: #127 (Bert the Turtle)

Everyone deserves a happy home!

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Jay C  May 19, 2017 • 8:42:38pm

re: #122 jaunte

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Actually, aside from the disgusting subject-matter, that light show on the side of the hotel is pretty impressive. Is that some sort of projection?

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Dave In Austin  May 19, 2017 • 8:42:49pm

re: #120 JordanRules

Hoooo boy. Hard to read even though I know. It hurts.

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That’s quite a string….

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 8:43:57pm

re: #131 Jay C

Yes, I think so.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:46:08pm

re: #125 Hecuba’s daughter

My brother tried pulling that on me a few months ago. He saw the Dinesh Dsouza propaganda film that focused on the early Democratic ties to slavery, KKK, and racism, ignoring the historical shift in the 1960’s- 70’s, where Southern racists abandoned the Democratic party for the Republican party.

It’s such dishonest crap. I’ll point this out to your brother and any Republican though. In 1964, when the CRA was signed, the Democrats nominated the man who signed the bill and the Republicans nominated one of the few Republican senators to vote against it. Civil Rights was not a priority for the GOP after Kennedy beat Nixon.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:46:33pm

re: #126 freetoken

Typical:

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Oh go cry some more about the Lee statue, snowflake.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 8:47:41pm

I’m so sick of Chicago being their rallying point to bitch about black people. THey don’t care about that city. They just like attacking it because it’s Obama and Clintons home turf and it is a city that has had its problems but there are plenty of cities in bright red states that have much higher criem rates.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2017 • 8:48:21pm

re: #129 austin_blue

I don’t think it’s “integrity” to sit there and quietly acquiesce when a disgusting liar is allowed to use the media to spread hatred and dishonesty. It’s cowardice, motivated by a desire to keep those big paychecks coming in. And they’re wrecking this country by treating people like Jeffrey Lord like honest actors, when they’re actually villains taking advantage of the media’s weakness - and people like Anderson Cooper KNOW IT.

He obviously knows it, because he had a moment tonight when he couldn’t take it any more. And then he backed down.

That’s not integrity.

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 8:49:25pm

re: #136 HappyWarrior

Yep. I always had remind people that Twitler’s threats had a lot to do with that Obama and Hillary association with Chicago.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2017 • 8:50:58pm
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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 8:52:12pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Reformed Republican gets to the heart of it better than this life long Dem. Word!

Anderson does know and that’s an important piece. He might think Lord’s a good guy though, so ya know. Blech!

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The Spite House  May 19, 2017 • 8:54:11pm

re: #126 freetoken

Typical:

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If we’re going to have statues of generals to commemorate the Civil War let’s put up some of Grant and Sherman down there.

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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 8:56:35pm

Have I ever mentioned how detestable of a program iTunes has turned into?

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Interesting Times  May 19, 2017 • 8:56:38pm

re: #129 austin_blue

It’s the rest of the polity that will defeat the whack jobs, and that means Independents. They don’t watch Fax News because it’s a propaganda vehicle, not a news channel.

Doesn’t matter. Even if they don’t watch Fox news, the people who do turn that network’s noxious coverage into cultural memes that pollute the minds of independents nonetheless: “Well, there’s just something about Hillary I don’t like…maybe Obama isn’t doing enough…both sides need to behave…”

If CNN descends to that level, it will become what it most despises. Another propaganda vehicle.

But they already are a propaganda vehicle for their corporate owners, who value ratings and “access” above truth. Notice how, more often than not, they trash or demote their bravest and most truthful correspondents? (e.g. Soledad O’Brien). Witness also MSNBC trying to toss Lawrence O’Donnell despite high ratings. I don’t think Anderson apologized out of genuine regret, more because his corporate bosses read him the riot act.

It’s called fighting the good fight for a reason. I may be naive, but I believe that patience and the continued reporting of Facts will win the day.

Yeahhhh…that’s what I thought before the election last year, and 62 million Americans sure showed me! -_- They might as well all have been wearing t-shirts that read “Fuck your faith in humanity”

And besides, who says using strong language is conceding the high ground, anyway? Does Kirsten Gillibrand sink to the GOP’s level when she says “If we’re not helping people, we should go the fuck home”? Fuck no :P It’s like the same old pearl-clutching conservative dumbfuckery when they excused trump’s pussy-grabbing comments with the “durr hurr locker-room talk and Beyonce is vulgar” disingenuous derp. They deliberately ignored the fact that we weren’t objecting to crude language per sae, but the substance and context behind it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 19, 2017 • 8:57:47pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

I wouldn’t be surprised if the CNN brass all but forced him to make that apology.

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Donkey With No Name  May 19, 2017 • 8:58:44pm

re: #90 Belafon

It’s a bit hard to miss, no?

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garzooma  May 19, 2017 • 8:58:45pm

re: #21 EPR-radar

I think much more direct methods can be employed this time around. National security taps on the phones of Trump and his top officials seems like a no brainer, …

Heh, just read this on DailyBeast:

“On a big case like this, the ideal thing would be a wiretap on your number one subject,” Gomez added. “But in this case, you don’t need a wiretap. He just comes right out and says it.”

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2017 • 8:58:50pm

re: #145 Eclectic Cyborg

I wouldn’t be surprised if the CNN brass all but forced him to make that apology.

That’s almost certainly what happened. His bosses told him he was out of line.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 19, 2017 • 8:59:05pm

re: #120 JordanRules

Hoooo boy. Hard to read even though I know. It hurts.

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Slavery and segregation are still alive and well in the South. They just go by different names now.

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 8:59:14pm

re: #145 Eclectic Cyborg

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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 8:59:18pm

re: #145 Eclectic Cyborg

I wouldn’t be surprised if the CNN brass all but forced him to make that apology.

Otherwise known as Time-Warner, a major corporation who are/were deeply invested in getting Trump into office so they can get their way at the FCC.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 19, 2017 • 8:59:30pm

re: #141 The Spite House

If we’re going to have statues of generals to commemorate the Civil War let’s put up some of Grant and Sherman down there.

George Thomas.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 19, 2017 • 9:00:28pm

re: #151 freetoken

Otherwise known as Time-Warner, a major corporation who are/were deeply invested in getting Trump into office so they can get their way at the FCC.

Bingo and that is why corporate owned, for
profit journalism is a fucking disaster.

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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 9:00:57pm

The same FCC who will make sure our bandwidth to LGF will now be much smaller than say to Hulu.

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BeachDem  May 19, 2017 • 9:01:02pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

Can someone find me the exact quote of Trump praising Putin in contrast with Obama? I’n preparing some remarks ofr my boss and I want to point out that Trump was repeatedly praising Putin as a candidate while at the same time belittling our leadership.

December 2011:
“Putin has big plans for Russia. He wants to edge out its neighbors so that Russia can dominate oil supplies to all of Europe,” Trump said. “I respect Putin and Russians but cannot believe our leader (Obama) allows them to get away with so much…Hats off to the Russians.”

Dec. 18, 2015:
“He’s running his country and at least he’s a leader, unlike what we have in this country,”

March 13, 2014

“And we have to show some strength. I mean, Putin has eaten Obama’s lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time,” he said. “And I just hope that Obama, who’s not looking too good, doesn’t do something very foolish and very stupid to show his manhood. I just hope that doesn’t happen.”

I could go on…

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JordanRules  May 19, 2017 • 9:01:13pm

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

Not just the South.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 19, 2017 • 9:01:51pm

re: #156 JordanRules

Not just the South.

Touche.

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freetoken  May 19, 2017 • 9:02:11pm

Indeed, with no need to be a common carrier, any cable system could just block LGF just because they want to, no reason needed.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 19, 2017 • 9:02:28pm

It’s easy to understand Anderson Cooper’s choice of language: When you’re talking to an anus, it’s only natural that related functions come to mind.

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BeachDem  May 19, 2017 • 9:03:52pm

re: #126 freetoken

Typical:

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The sentiment or the spelling?
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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 9:06:12pm

This is going to be hell of a trip.

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 19, 2017 • 9:06:28pm

From way back when…

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:07:00pm

re: #155 BeachDem

December 2011:
“Putin has big plans for Russia. He wants to edge out its neighbors so that Russia can dominate oil supplies to all of Europe,” Trump said. “I respect Putin and Russians but cannot believe our leader (Obama) allows them to get away with so much…Hats off to the Russians.”

Dec. 18, 2015:
“He’s running his country and at least he’s a leader, unlike what we have in this country,”

March 13, 2014

“And we have to show some strength. I mean, Putin has eaten Obama’s lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time,” he said. “And I just hope that Obama, who’s not looking too good, doesn’t do something very foolish and very stupid to show his manhood. I just hope that doesn’t happen.”

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I could go on…

Yeah I could write a long essay about this heh. I think tehse are fairly brief remarks he’s making. I am glad he’s trusted me with the research.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:07:47pm

re: #161 jaunte

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This is going to be hell of a trip.

Low Energy or not, at least Jeb isn’t a fucking moron and at least Jeb loves this country more than he does Russia.

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Kragar  May 19, 2017 • 9:07:47pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:08:04pm

And now I feel sick. I defended Jeb Bush.

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jaunte  May 19, 2017 • 9:08:27pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

“And I just hope that Obama, who’s not looking too good, doesn’t do something very foolish and very stupid to show his manhood. I just hope that doesn’t happen.”

Wow, there’s some standout projection.

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The Spite House  May 19, 2017 • 9:08:55pm

Ryan is astonished that this leaks. That’s what really bothers these people.

And we’re the lizards?

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:09:57pm

re: #167 jaunte

Wow, there’s some standout projection.

My very very rough opening paragraph
President Trump’s remarks regarding Russia as a candidate for President of the United States should have set out serious warning alarms for Americans. Candidate Trump went out of his way to praise Vladimir Putin’s Russia while at the same time belittling the President of the United States. When Donald Trump was not attacking Barack Obama’s American birthright, he was praising the Russian president for his strength, leadership, and outsmarting President Obama. Never mind the fact that Vladimir Putin, unlike President Obama did not have to work in a nation state had separation of powers. Trump repeatedly as a candidate talked about his desire that the United States and Russia should be friends. At the same time though, he was belittling allies such as Mexico by accusing our neighbor to the south of sending rapists and murderers to the United States. Trump’s praise of Russia was not limited to his words on the campaign trail and on Twitter but also his associations. Paul Manafort, who was Trump’s second campaign manager following the firing of Corey Lewandowski had been a lobbyist for deposed Ukrainian President, Viktor Yanukovych, a key Putin ally. And of course General Michael Flynn, who in December 2015 attended a gala in Moscow in honor of Russia Today.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 19, 2017 • 9:10:15pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

It’s such dishonest crap. I’ll point this out to your brother and any Republican though. In 1964, when the CRA was signed, the Democrats nominated the man who signed the bill and the Republicans nominated one of the few Republican senators to vote against it. Civil Rights was not a priority for the GOP after Kennedy beat Nixon.

I know Johnson reportedly said something like the Democrats lost the South for a generation because of this legislation — though it looks like it’s 2 generations and counting.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:11:04pm

re: #168 The Spite House

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Ryan is astonished that this leaks. That’s what really bothers these people.

And we’re the lizards?

Yeah because the leaks are the bad thing not the fact that you assholes were laughing like a bunch of schoolgirls over the DNC being hacked. Get bent Paulie. You owe your livelihood to the fact that your Dad died so young. If your father saw the man, you grew up to be, he’d want to kick your ass.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:12:12pm

re: #170 Hecuba’s daughter

I know Johnson reportedly said something like the Democrats lost the South for a generation because of this legislation — though it looks like it’s 2 generations and counting.

I am just glad Virginia has become Purple Blue but in truth it’s not because Virginian whites got over what LBJ did, it’s because we’ve gotten more diverse in otehr ways. When Virginia became a red state, it did not have the Hispanic and Asian population to go with the African-American population here to make this state competitive for Democrats.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:13:23pm

General Flynn was a constant presence at Trump campaign events. The General was even quoted as saying that if he had done a tenth of what Hillary Clinton had done, he would be in jail and the General also led a “Lock Her Up” at the RNC in Cleveland. So trusted by Trump was Flynn that he was rumored to be considered as a running mate for the candidate. Trump eventually chose Indiana Governor, Mike Pence but Flynn remained an integral part of the campaign and Trump continued to praise Russia. At one point, he even admonished Hillary Clinton for criticizing the Russian leader and even denied that Putin’s forces had been in Ukraine (unaware that Crimea has belonged to the nation of Ukraine since its independence in 1991. So we have to ask ourselves is it a real surprise that it has emerged that people inside the Trump campaign had contacts with the Russian government.
Paragraph on Flynn. I’ll make this a apge when I’m done with it.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2017 • 9:15:09pm

Was I too harsh by bringing Ryan’s father into this? I’m sorry but I ahve no respect for a man who benefits from the same programs he now wants to deny other Americans. Paul Ryan is the ultimate fuck you, I got mine Republican. He’s also for all his praising of the private sector never worked much at all in the private sector. I’m young enough to be his son and I ahve more experience in the private sector having worked for a history magazine firm, technology firm, and now a law firm.

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austin_blue  May 19, 2017 • 9:17:44pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

I don’t think it’s “integrity” to sit there and quietly acquiesce when a disgusting liar is allowed to use the media to spread hatred and dishonesty. It’s cowardice, motivated by a desire to keep those big paychecks coming in. And they’re wrecking this country by treating people like Jeffrey Lord like honest actors, when they’re actually villains taking advantage of the media’s weakness - and people like Anderson Cooper KNOW IT.

He obviously knows it, because he had a moment tonight when he couldn’t take it any more. And then he backed down.

That’s not integrity.

Again, I’m not disagreeing with you, but we have to win this game. And the way to do that is to form a coalition of Progressives and Independents to put this evil genie back in the bottle by throttling it by the throat with facts.

They have the big money behind them to continue their drumbeat of lies. We have the truth. And every time we say to them, on air, that they are lying, and back it up with facts, we bring more people into the fold.

This isn’t a zero sum game. We are fighting for the integrity, if you will, of this Republic. Rolling in the mud with the likes of Hannity and Limbaugh isn’t going to feed the bulldog. They spin, spin, and spin. We must respond with facts, facts, and facts. It’s what you have been doing for the past several years and I deeply respect you for your efforts.

We are agreed on the outcome that needs to occur. We are dancing around the edges of how it would be most effectively implemented. This is a good thing. This is how a functional working group operates.

You are the voice of this board. You are the public face, and you get the most crap thrown at you by the other side. Please don’t ever believe that we don’t have your back, in any way we can give it to you.

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FormerDirtDart  May 19, 2017 • 9:20:57pm
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prairiefire  May 19, 2017 • 9:24:07pm

re: #4 JordanRules

And in the last thread it was remarked that the nation was exhausted from Nixon/Watergate.

Too young to have been there but this shit here is absolutely remarkable!

This shit here is real. No nostalgia needed!

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Belafon  May 19, 2017 • 9:27:19pm

re: #146 Donkey With No Name

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I think you had to have some inkling beyond “he’s just weird.”

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BeachDem  May 19, 2017 • 9:39:50pm

re: #169 HappyWarrior

A little friendly copy editing (hey, it’s why I make the big bucks)

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