Video: Stephen Colbert Rips Trump’s Inhuman Budget Apart
Stephen’s stance on the White House’s proposed slashing of the food stamp program and children’s health insurance program is somehow radical in 2017.
Stephen’s stance on the White House’s proposed slashing of the food stamp program and children’s health insurance program is somehow radical in 2017.
“Hey hey, ho ho, Donald #Trump has got to go!” Tens of thousands welcoming @realDonaldTrump in #Brussels. #TrumpNotWelcome #trumpbrussels pic.twitter.com/JQWpuwtOxM
— 🇪🇺Martin Mycielski (@mycielski) May 24, 2017
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Pres. Trump was heard thanking Pope Francis, saying it was a “great honor” to be at the Vatican for first meeting: https://t.co/7f0SWuWy83 pic.twitter.com/X9HO1UlAHb
— CBS News (@CBSNews) May 24, 2017
Let me give you the ACTUAL story here, that Italian media aired. 1) Pope is PISSED at Newt’s 3rd wife being chosen as Ambassador to Vatican. https://t.co/eXInzNdipR
— Ale (@aliasvaughn) May 24, 2017
This guy is everything.
“They want us to turn on our neighbours and it will never happen” - blood donor Ian in Manchester, via @BBCNewsnight pic.twitter.com/vdPLbebcTy
— Catrin Nye (@CatrinNye) May 23, 2017
In presence of pool reporters @POTUS said to @Pontifex it’s “a very great honor.” The pope did not say anything. He did not smile. pic.twitter.com/Li0uhlE7w9
— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) May 24, 2017
re: #3 Kragar
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That was a great thread and so easy to believe that it’s all true.
re: #4 Kragar
But it’s such a clone of a rock I saw 30 years ago
(edit: last thread music discussion reference)
re: #6 Kragar
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Like I said before, the Pope knows what a bad man the yam is. He watched him.
re: #7 stpaulbear
That was a great thread and so easy to believe that it’s all true.
One of the responses re Newt’s 3rd wife:
@F1ct10nS3ct10n @Spicerlies @aliasvaughn @DarkMission1 Humor break :D pic.twitter.com/FuRhqgLXGV
— Cats and Chocolates (@CatsChocolates) May 24, 2017
re: #5 Stanley Sea
This guy is everything.
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If I ever meet him, the first pint will be on me. That’s what we should be. United in our collective humanity.
re: #10 Interesting Times
One of the responses re Newt’s 3rd wife:
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Hahahha yeah i can see Tiffany in her.
Look at the Pope’s face when he looks at Trump. pic.twitter.com/0wvBVesUdP
— Yashar (@yashar) May 24, 2017
@seanhannity For anyone interested, here is a list of Sean’s advertisers for you to contact and a brief message on free speech pic.twitter.com/GMlO34Qxqn
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) May 24, 2017
Trump to Pope Francis: “These are books from Martin Luther King, I think you will enjoy them” @TODAYshow
https://t.co/dbxWVzWayK— NBC News (@NBCNews) May 24, 2017
The Gift is the Message: From #PopeFrancis to #Trump, a peace medallion and copies of his encyclicals - one on climate change. https://t.co/HomoyHW58l
— Laurie Goodstein (@lauriegnyt) May 24, 2017
re: #10 Interesting Times
— gocart mozart (@HarryTuttle11) May 24, 2017
— gocart mozart (@HarryTuttle11) May 24, 2017
.@carsdotcom is suspending its advertising on Sean Hannity’s Fox show pic.twitter.com/jmmeoa1Jxq
— Mary Georgantopoulos (@marygeorgant) May 24, 2017
@seanhannity You’ve done damage to a grieving family. How about you have yourself a bid ol’ cup of Shut the Fuck Up.
— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) May 24, 2017
re: #22 The Vicious Babushka
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Carsdotcom is obviously be paid off by liberal fascists!
Trump’s new banner is him getting the stinkeye from the Pope. pic.twitter.com/P9CywtZ1Fg
— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) May 24, 2017
re: #23 Dave In Austin
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Yeah because you’re such an erstwhile champion of freedom of speech Lumpy. For fuck sake, you’re a fucking ghoul who is using this kid’s death to distract from the fact that the man whose balls you’ve swallowed is a Russian colluding crook.
re: #23 Dave In Austin
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Actual fascism by conservatives directed towards the Dixie Chicks escapes his memory I guess.
No one loves anything as much as Al Franken loves dunking on Ted Cruz https://t.co/bCrTx9C57D pic.twitter.com/b4tgxMEO46
— Fusion (@Fusion) May 24, 2017
re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth
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3 months of detention, Mr. Trump.
Not fair! My Dad owns the Vatican!
Uh, no he doesn’t. Your father wasn’t even Catholic.
re: #23 Dave In Austin
@seanhannity Scoundrels are not owed a platform to amplify their misdeeds. This is about abusing a grieving family, not free speech.
— (((Jeff Furling))) (@FurlingtonJeff) May 24, 2017
re: #27 Timothy Watson
Actual fascism by conservatives directed towards the Dixie Chicks escapes his memory I guess.
That he himself engaged in. But I get it saying you’re ashamed to be from the same state as someone is the same as pushing conspiracy theory bullshit.
“Dr.” Gorka was on Fox this morning as a terrorism expert to discuss Manchester.
re: #23 Dave In Austin
Even beyond that, he’s just lying, not caring about facts that don’t fit his narrative, he’s just trying to create chaos, which is oddly what he now accuses Trump critics of doing. Although anti-administration agitation was OK just a few months ago.
Click like if you think Trump went to the Vatican only to get a selfie with the Pope. pic.twitter.com/e6U3Gy8uXc
— Anders Östlund (@andersostlund) May 24, 2017
So last thread, lizard ages were brought up. Just by conversation it seems that a lot of us are contemporaries.
I’m 62 and getting more liberal by the day.
Yous?
Rep Blake Farenthold, R-Texas, says DNC hack may have been “insider job.” CNN asks for evidence: “There’s stuff circulating on the internet”
— Steve Peoples (@sppeoples) May 24, 2017
This is a perfect microcosm of the modern Republican Party https://t.co/JJnJXOsgVG
— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) May 24, 2017
re: #35 Dave In Austin
50
Pete Souza’s shade game is strong. pic.twitter.com/zk9duNOlMY
— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) May 24, 2017
re: #35 Dave In Austin
So last thread, lizard ages were brought up. Just by conversation it seems that a lot of us are contemporaries.
I’m 62 and getting more liberal by the day.
Yous?
29
re: #35 Dave In Austin
I think I am right around 52.
re: #35 Dave In Austin
So last thread, lizard ages were brought up. Just by conversation it seems that a lot of us are contemporaries.
I’m 62 and getting more liberal by the day.
Yous?
Who are the oldest & the youngest Lizards?
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Francis has the easiest smile of any Pope of my life time. How fucking terrible do you have to be to cause him to not smile at all?
Also, can’t wait for all the American (conservative) Catholics to scream about what a heretic Francis is… again.
Dems are asking Deutsche Bank to produce documents on Trump family loans, see if there are any connections to Russia https://t.co/HFQoBFZFCm pic.twitter.com/8YNpNLfCHY
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) May 24, 2017
I have been interested in who cosigned or collateralized Trump’s desperation borrowing from Deutchesbank, after no US bank would lend him a dime.
What a shitty way to go…
Yeah, I went there
JUST IN: Man missing after cesspool collapses into large hole on New York’s Long Island. https://t.co/UYPUm01wor - @NBCNewYork pic.twitter.com/tWOT2mIvhq
— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) May 24, 2017
re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth
He has been so brilliant. It is a badly needed bit of levity as I deal with the news each day.
re: #35 Dave In Austin
So last thread, lizard ages were brought up. Just by conversation it seems that a lot of us are contemporaries.
I’m 62 and getting more liberal by the day.
Yous?
29.
re: #35 Dave In Austin
So last thread, lizard ages were brought up. Just by conversation it seems that a lot of us are contemporaries.
I’m 62 and getting more liberal by the day.
Yous?
64 in August, still act like a big kid.
re: #45 KGxvi
Francis has the easiest smile of any Pope of my life time. How fucking terrible do you have to be to cause him to not smile at all?
Also, can’t wait for all the American (conservative) Catholics to scream about what a heretic Francis is… again.
I’m eagerly awaiting Bill Donovan’s attack.
I will celebrate my 29th birthday for the 4th time this year.
Francis really is one of the best things to happen to Catholicism. Didn’t like Benedict much at all- never called him a Nazi but wasn’t a fan. I admired John Paul II more or less due to his experience in WWII and the Cold War.
re: #49 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I particularly like the pictures of our last First Couple being loving, affectionate, respectful, etc with each other.
re: #54 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I will celebrate my 29th birthday for the 4th time this year.
Well shit, I’m looking forward to my ninth 21st birthday. I actually don’t mind getting a little older though. I’m more mature, introspective, and happier than I was when I was younger.
re: #35 Dave In Austin
So last thread, lizard ages were brought up. Just by conversation it seems that a lot of us are contemporaries.
I’m 62 and getting more liberal by the day.
Yous?
56
For the record I am 35 (36 in a few months).
re: #57 Stanley Sea
Apparently Spicer wasn’t invited in & is pissed.
Okay, I hate Spicer as much as the next guy, but to deny someone, who is Catholic, the opportunity to the meet the Pope…
re: #62 Timothy Watson
Okay, I hate Spicer as much as the next guy, but to deny someone, who is Catholic, the opportunity to the meet the Pope…
Does Trump know the Pope’s Catholic?
re: #62 Timothy Watson
…is a needlessly shitty thing to do. Therefor it is very Trumpian.
Eight new stars have been added to the CIA’s Memorial Wall. Four of their names remain classified. pic.twitter.com/QpKnxqFVG3
— Shane Harris (@shaneharris) May 24, 2017
re: #56 Jebediah, RBG
I particularly like the pictures of our last First Couple being loving, affectionate, respectful, etc with each other.
Mostly I really enjoy pretending that reality is still intact.
I laugh because otherwise it’s really hard not to sob.
(Today’s run brings my year total up to 407/1000. I’m well on track to make my goal. :D)
re: #58 HappyWarrior
Well shit, I’m looking forward to my ninth 21st birthday. I actually don’t mind getting a little older though. I’m more mature, introspective, and happier than I was when I was younger.
A little older isn’t bad. A lot older starts to hurt.
Francis asked Melania if she was giving him potica (Slovene nutroll)) to eat hahahhaa.
re: #66 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Mostly I really enjoy pretending that reality is still intact.
I laugh because otherwise it’s really hard not to sob.
(Today’s run brings my year total up to 407/1000. I’m well on track to make my goal. :D)
Yes, yes, and congratulations & good job!
re: #58 HappyWarrior
Well shit, I’m looking forward to my ninth 21st birthday. I actually don’t mind getting a little older though. I’m more mature, introspective, and happier than I was when I was younger.
It has more to do with my weird hangups about numbers and not liking the fact that there is a 3 in my age and it won’t go away for another 8 years than anything else.
I mean, if I had my way I would have just stayed 24 forever. But with the added knowledge and maturity and all that. But just keep the number 24.
re: #62 Timothy Watson
Okay, I hate Spicer as much as the next guy, but to deny someone, who is Catholic, the opportunity to the meet the Pope…
Yeah I don’t get that. Didn’t know Spicey was Catholic though. Though I can’t say I’ve known too many Seans who weren’t.
Can’t you just imagine Francis looking skyward and asking God to never do that to him again after Trump left?
When you finally meet a soul that’s beyond redemption pic.twitter.com/1s7hmJYsjQ
— Richard Hine (@richardhine) May 24, 2017
re: #71 klys (maker of Silmarils)
It has more to do with my weird hangups about numbers and not liking the fact that there is a 3 in my age and it won’t go away for another 8 years than anything else.
I mean, if I had my way I would have just stayed 24 forever. But with the added knowledge and maturity and all that. But just keep the number 24.
27 for me. I was in my best shape that year. I’ve gained some weight back. But then again, this year I’ve felt the best emotionally since I’ve started taking anti-depressants. The Trump stuff would really mess with my anxiety if I weren’t.
1. His budget, according to my Republican Senator (John Cornyn) is “dead on arrival.” This piece of evil offal isn’t going to get anywhere. But the fact that the Trump White House is this sickeningly cruel is disgusting.
2. I am willing to claim Cornyn as my Senator because he is not a moron. I do not agree with him on almost anything but I respect him. He’s a dignified human on the opposite side of a debate we could have over beers one night.
3. Ted Cruz is also a Senator. I do not claim him. I’d say he’s a minion of Cthulhu but i respect Cthulhu. He’s more of a minion of Satan’s personal ass-wiper.
4. I know at night, when the Pope says his prayers, he asks God to help him forgive his enemies and love everyone. And i know, I KNOW, Donald Trump’s face flashes before him, every night, as his greatest challenge to living that faith.
5. I’d have given a year’s salary to watch Pope Francis overturn his desk and yell, “Hypocrites! Moneylenders in the Temple! I will purge this holy place of your filth!”
Didn’t happen, but his facial expressions sure looked like he was thinking about it.
Onward.
Pope stiffens in anticipation of possible lightning strike as he stands near the living embodiment of all that is unholy.#TrumpVatican pic.twitter.com/VhoAa2NEgK
— Steve Marmel (@Marmel) May 24, 2017
re: #45 KGxvi
Francis has the easiest smile of any Pope of my life time. How fucking terrible do you have to be to cause him to not smile at all?
Also, can’t wait for all the American (conservative) Catholics to scream about what a heretic Francis is… again.
An Antichrist like Trump is apparently enough to piss off the pope.
I’m sure the Pope will be civil about his exchange but the vibe I got from looking at him is he was not happy to meet Trump.
re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth
Trump to take credit for this shortly.
IF ONLY
Wow. That was fast. pic.twitter.com/YGTvIgxVIl
— Raychelle Burks (@DrRubidium) May 24, 2017
I wonder if Spicer was on the list, then taken off & Francis knew.
heh
Donald Trump and his wife Melania stand before The Last Judgment.
Photo @oss_romano pic.twitter.com/oI7G5guXUn— James Martin, SJ (@JamesMartinSJ) May 24, 2017
re: #75 HappyWarrior
27 for me. I was in my best shape that year. I’ve gained some weight back. But then again, this year I’ve felt the best emotionally since I’ve started taking anti-depressants. The Trump stuff would really mess with my anxiety if I weren’t.
I am, perhaps unsurprisingly, in the best shape of my life right now.
I’m running 5 days a week, with my short days being a 5k. Working up to a half for my long day, and 10k for my mids, but not quite there yet.
It’s still a really weird and different thing and there’s a lot I haven’t processed about it yet, not really.
The first thing CL said to me when we met? “Look at you, you’re so skinny!”
That meant an awful lot. Still does mean a lot. (I wouldn’t necessarily say I am skinny, but in a relative sense to where I was I absolutely am, so.)
re: #80 EPR-radar
Trump to take credit for this shortly.
“In my administration, they will add a yuge amount of stars and they will be the most beautiful stars ever!”
“Uh, Mr. President…”
TRUMP: Is there a book to sign? I signed one at #YadVashem. I like to leave my name wherever I go.
Papal silence.pic.twitter.com/QfA9a52656— Victoria Brownworth (@VABVOX) May 24, 2017
re: #84 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I am, perhaps unsurprisingly, in the best shape of my life right now.
I’m running 5 days a week, with my short days being a 5k. Working up to a half for my long day, and 10k for my mids, but not quite there yet.
It’s still a really weird and different thing and there’s a lot I haven’t processed about it yet, not really.
The first thing CL said to me when we met? “Look at you, you’re so skinny!”
That meant an awful lot. Still does mean a lot. (I wouldn’t necessarily say I am skinny, but in a relative sense to where I was I absolutely am, so.)
IT was so nice that you were able to meet her. I miss her. She really contributed a lot here. I’m definitely not skinny but I don’t feel fat and my energy is definitely good.
re: #68 HappyWarrior
Francis asked Melania if she was giving him potica (Slovene nutroll)) to eat hahahhaa.
My gramma from the same neighborhood as Melania made that every year at Easter. Took years to get a recipe out of her, mostly by my aunt’s observations.
re: #51 makeitstop
64 in August, still act like a big kid.
63 in August for me…and yes I act like a big kid too.
Dress for the job you want. #widow pic.twitter.com/4dC1Q7GAJy
— carla ciccone (@cciccone) May 24, 2017
re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth
@VABVOX He loves to sign, unless it’s the bill.
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) May 24, 2017
re: #87 Teukka
I detect serious snark from one of Francis’ order brothers :3
I was disappointed when I found out my great uncle the priest was a Holy Ghost Father and not a Jesuit but I did find out his Order, they like to help impoverished and underserved areas. I’m not a religious man at all but I appreciate and respect the life my uncle lived. He was a war time chaplain too.
Between the rather dismal spectacle of a longtime Lizard apparently flipping his wig here last night, and the struggles with analytics-tracking technology for various clients, I’ve been quiet for the past day or so.
But age-related questions? That I can do.
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re: #90 ObserverArt
63 in August for me…and yes I act like a big kid too.
I think our birthdays are a couple of days apart - yours just before Big Dog’s BD and mine just after, IIRC.
re: #88 HappyWarrior
IT was so nice that you were able to meet her. I miss her. She really contributed a lot here. I’m definitely not skinny but I don’t feel fat and my energy is definitely good.
I would have regretted it so much if we hadn’t. We’d talked about it off and on for close to a year. Just decided to make the time for it last year when we were back for Christmas.
If I’d had any time on this recent trip to DC, I would have let you northern VA Lizards know. But this was as close to an in-and-out as was humanly possible.
I am slowly collecting Lizard meet-ups.
re: #89 wrenchwench
My gramma from the same neighborhood as Melania made that every year at Easter. Took years to get a recipe out of her, mostly by my aunt’s observations.
Yeah my grandpa’s parents were from the same region as Slovenia as Melania is. We’ve joked that my grandfather may have went for Trump because he would have liked the Slovene wife thingie but I hope not. Trump goes against so much of what he taught my mom, my brothers, and I.
I’ll jump on the age-train, 51 here.
re: #96 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I would have regretted it so much if we hadn’t. We’d talked about it off and on for close to a year. Just decided to make the time for it last year when we were back for Christmas.
If I’d had any time on this recent trip to DC, I would have let you northern VA Lizards know. But this was as close to an in-and-out as was humanly possible.
I am slowly collecting Lizard meet-ups.
Certainly. Glad you were able to do it. I’m sure she felt the same way.
@JamesMartinSJ @oss_romano Don’t fool yourself. This is pure damage control.
— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) May 24, 2017
re: #94 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)
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re: #35 Dave In Austin
25 in earth years or 100 in (largish) dog years.
re: #87 Teukka
I detect serious snark from one of Francis’ order brothers :3
I notice that they are finally photographed holding hands.
Spicer, a devout Catholic, was not allowed to meet Pope while other staffers were @jeffzeleny @Kevinliptakcnn report https://t.co/VTJusibfvm
— Yashar (@yashar) May 24, 2017
My boss always thinks I’m younger than I am when we discuss current events since he always assumes I was just a kid during the Bush years. I mean I was for part of it but not in the sense that I wasn’t old enough to understand current events.
re: #45 KGxvi
Francis has the easiest smile of any Pope of my life time. How fucking terrible do you have to be to cause him to not smile at all?
Also, can’t wait for all the American (conservative) Catholics to scream about what a heretic Francis is… again.
I think it is a bit of confirmation bias to make judgements based on a snapshot. While I think it is highly likely the Pope finds Trump to be odious and distasteful, I think it would be feeding my own bias to believe a couple of photos the press pool that has a pretty antagonistic relationship with Trump decided to release confirmed that.
re: #71 klys (maker of Silmarils)
It has more to do with my weird hangups about numbers and not liking the fact that there is a 3 in my age and it won’t go away for another 8 years than anything else.
I mean, if I had my way I would have just stayed 24 forever. But with the added knowledge and maturity and all that. But just keep the number 24.
There’s a three in mine too…preceded by eight decades. Stay in shape.
re: #104 Stanley Sea
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re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth
I notice that they are finally photographed holding hands.
“I’ll let you buy a $1 million worth of jewelry if you hold my hand for a few moments.”
re: #107 Semper Fi
There’s a three in mine too…preceded by eight decades. Stay in shape.
I’m working on that.
I need to sign up for another half marathon. I am without a race to train for for the first time in almost a year.
re: #108 HappyWarrior
And for his next punishment, Spicer will have to share a room with Steve Bannon.
He’s being fired.
Can’t stand Spicer, but this is SUCH A DICK MOVE by the yam.
Hope fucking Hicks & Shiller his body guard/fixer guy got to go.
Honestly speaking I have enjoyed my 30s more than my 20s. I do have the blessing of good health but I am more mature and confident in myself as a man now.
re: #94 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)
Between the rather dismal spectacle of a longtime Lizard apparently flipping his wig here last night, and the struggles with analytics-tracking technology for various clients, I’ve been quiet for the past day or so.
But age-related questions? That I can do.
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re: #113 Stanley Sea
He’s being fired.
Can’t stand Spicer, but this is SUCH A DICK MOVE by the yam.
Hope fucking Hicks & Shiller his body guard/fixer guy got to go.
Yeah it is. Pretty pathetic move.
re: #105 HappyWarrior
My boss always thinks I’m younger than I am when we discuss current events since he always assumes I was just a kid during the Bush years. I mean I was for part of it but not in the sense that I wasn’t old enough to understand current events.
Yeah, I remembered Osama bin Laden’s name from the USS Cole and embassy attacks when people started suggesting him being responsible on 9/11.
Like I said last thread, almost eidetic memory.
re: #43 The Vicious Babushka
Who are the oldest & the youngest Lizards?
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re: #115 The Vicious Babushka
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re: #115 The Vicious Babushka
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I know I am A Old when my kids explain to my grandkids how they used to get on the Internet in the olden days using a modem that made a SCREEEEEEEEE when it connected.
re: #117 Timothy Watson
Yeah, I remembered Osama bin Laden’s name from the USS Cole and embassy attacks when people started suggesting him being responsible on 9/11.
Like I said last thread, almost eidetic memory.
Exactly, and the Embassy bombings. I was a fanatical watcher of America’s Most Wanted with John Walsh back in the day so I was one of the few people our age who knew who OBL was when 9-11 happened.
re: #113 Stanley Sea
In all fairness (Spice deserves none though), a puppeteer could do his job. Spineless sack of wasted viscera is what makes it easier to dislike him. Also he’s shit at his job.
re: #121 The Vicious Babushka
I know I am A Old when my kids explain to my grandkids how they used to get on the Internet in the olden days using a modem that made a SCREEEEEEEEE when it connected.
That was the modem we had from about age 5 (Prodigy!) to 11 or 12ish. I forget exactly when we got cable.
My parents didn’t bother to enlighten me that cable Internet also meant the Internet was always on and they didn’t have to log me in. It took me far longer than it should have to figure that out.
re: #121 The Vicious Babushka
By golly we used have to wait 5 minutes to download a song…and that’s IF the connection was good!
Also getting them to grasp the concept of not being able to use the phone and internet at the same time.
That moment when you realize you’re going to have to take a Silkwood shower with holy water… pic.twitter.com/pbjuIfqcwP
— Sib Ventress (@cposnarky) May 24, 2017
re: #118 BeachDem
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re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth
I notice that they are finally photographed holding hands.
Melania is afraid that she’s seeing her future.
re: #95 makeitstop
I think our birthdays are a couple of days apart - yours just before Big Dog’s BD and mine just after, IIRC.
Mine is shared with Bill Big Dog Clinton.
re: #121 The Vicious Babushka
I know I am A Old when my kids explain to my grandkids how they used to get on the Internet in the olden days using a modem that made a SCREEEEEEEEE when it connected.
I’m so old my first modem was the kind that had rubber cups you had to put a telephone handset into. 300 baud. You could see the characters appear on screen one by one.
re: #124 klys (maker of Silmarils)
That was the modem we had from about age 5 (Prodigy!) to 11 or 12ish. I forget exactly when we got cable.
My parents didn’t bother to enlighten me that cable Internet also meant the Internet was always on and they didn’t have to log me in. It took me far longer than it should have to figure that out.
We didn’t have cable until I was 6. I remember how we got it. My one brother and I got hooked on Nickeldeon at the Econo Lodge one vacation. We got our computer the following year because I liked playing the computer games in computers class in grade school. Got online for the first time I want to say in 6th or 7th grade. My youngest brother really has no idea what life was like before that. I do like to bust him on that to act like my childhood was somehow Dickensian- it cetainly wasn’t heh but doesn’t stop me.
re: #127 HappyWarrior
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re: #35 Dave In Austin
So last thread, lizard ages were brought up. Just by conversation it seems that a lot of us are contemporaries.
I’m 62 and getting more liberal by the day.
Yous?
I’ll be 64 next week. (Will Mr. C. still need me? Will he still feed me?)
I don’t know if I’m getting more liberal at this point, but perhaps taking a wider perspective and developing a deeper understanding of people and their situations.
I’m so old. I had to actually get print porn rather than just googling away. You kids and your pornhub. //
re: #106 danarchy
I think it is a bit of confirmation bias to make judgements based on a snapshot. While I think it is highly likely the Pope finds Trump to be odious and distasteful, I think it would be feeding my own bias to believe a couple of photos the press pool that has a pretty antagonistic relationship with Trump decided to release confirmed that.
That’s probably true. Just the first few photos I saw made it appear that his Holiness was not particularly happy to be there. I’m sure Francis is a better person than I am, or would be in that situation, so I’m also sure that there will be at least a few photos of him smiling with Trump.
re: #131 HappyWarrior
We didn’t have cable until I was 6. I remember how we got it. My one brother and I got hooked on Nickeldeon at the Econo Lodge one vacation. We got our computer the following year because I liked playing the computer games in computers class in grade school. Got online for the first time I want to say in 6th or 7th grade. My youngest brother really has no idea what life was like before that. I do like to bust him on that to act like my childhood was somehow Dickensian- it cetainly wasn’t heh but doesn’t stop me.
I’ve been using computers since I was 4 or so. I remembering having to REM lines in autoexec.bat and config.sys in MS-DOS to have enough memory to run video games. :)
re: #130 Charles Johnson
I’m so old my first modem was the kind that had rubber cups you had to put a telephone handset into. 300 baud. You could see the characters appear on screen one by one.
So did mine. After Wargames came out, I built a pulse dialer to look for computers. I hooked a relay up to my cassette interface and wrote my own dialing program to pulse the phone line on my TRS-80 Color Computer.
re: #136 Timothy Watson
I’ve been using computers since I was 4 or so. I remembering having to REM lines in autoexec.bat and config.sys in MS-DOS to have enough memory to run video games. :)
I’ve been since I was about six or so. We had a weekly class on computers in grade school so I played Oregon Trial. There was one game we had that I remember my best friend and I playing called Grammar Monsters, it was a lot like Mad Libs if I recall correctly.
In a way, I feel I can relate to my Gen Xer cousins better than I can my youngest brother even though he’s a Millennial too.
re: #129 ObserverArt
Mine is shared with Bill Big Dog Clinton.
That’s right! And mine’s the day after, which I share with Robert Plant and Phil Lynott (and a bunch of other cool humans).
re: #140 HappyWarrior
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Seth Rich’s family ,and cyber experts, believe that @KimDotcom was trying to plant evidence in his old gmail acct. https://t.co/k2wYgAYJwb pic.twitter.com/JYqL0PgC5R
— Yashar (@yashar) May 24, 2017
I love Francis and I’m not Catholic. I was raised in a strict Baptist environment. I made all the commitments to make family happy but down deep the inner scientist prevailed.
re: #143 Kragar
@yashar And that scumbag propagandist Hannity would have run with the hoax if they hadn’t been caught.
— (((Jeff Furling))) (@FurlingtonJeff) May 24, 2017
re: #140 HappyWarrior
In a way, I feel I can relate to my Gen Xer cousins better than I can my youngest brother even though he’s a Millennial too.
How old is he?
Once you get to people who weren’t alive or old enough to remember 9/11, I think I would feel a disconnect.
re: #141 makeitstop
That’s right! And mine’s the day after, which I share with Robert Plant and Phil Lynott (and a bunch of other cool humans).
Leo’s rule!
(Actually, I don’t buy into the Zodiac stuff)
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re: #136 Timothy Watson
I’ve been using computers since I was 4 or so. I remembering having to REM lines in autoexec.bat and config.sys in MS-DOS to have enough memory to run video games. :)
I remember that too. Of course I was in college at the time, so if I didn’t I would be worried about early onset Alzheimers.
re: #118 BeachDem
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re: #146 Timothy Watson
How old is he?
Once you get to people who weren’t alive or old enough to remember 9/11, I think I would feel a disconnect.
Yep 16 so he literally was born the year 9/11 happened. We’re close since we talk a lot and spent a lot of time together but culturally I’m much more connected with my other brother since we remember playing on our SEGA, Kazaa, etc.
Age-wise, I became a Legend in disc golf this year, as I turn 70 in August and that is the disc golf competitive label for those of us who compete in the eighth decade of life. I’ve just registered for the 2017 Pro Masters World Championships, which take place in August.
re: #140 HappyWarrior
re: #142 Eclectic Cyborg
The borders on generations are usually kind of fuzzy. And the experiences of older members of a generation vs younger members of a generation can vary rather dramatically. I was born in ‘78, and my experience as a GenXer is probably vastly different than someone born in ‘65 which is one of the border points between Boomers and Xers (after all, someone born in ‘65 would have been graduating high school when I was 5).
re: #131 HappyWarrior
We didn’t have cable until I was 6. I remember how we got it. My one brother and I got hooked on Nickeldeon at the Econo Lodge one vacation. We got our computer the following year because I liked playing the computer games in computers class in grade school. Got online for the first time I want to say in 6th or 7th grade. My youngest brother really has no idea what life was like before that. I do like to bust him on that to act like my childhood was somehow Dickensian- it cetainly wasn’t heh but doesn’t stop me.
We only had cable TV for a summer when I was like 8, but my mom felt I watched too much TV so that didn’t stay. Just cable Internet, until 9/11.*
* The broadcast antennas were on top of the WTC. The back-ups were not nearly as good.
re: #127 HappyWarrior
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Gen X’er here. To be more specific…
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re: #154 KGxvi
The borders on generations are usually kind of fuzzy. And the experiences of older members of a generation vs younger members of a generation can vary rather dramatically. I was born in ‘78, and my experience as a GenXer is probably vastly different than someone born in ‘65 which is one of the border points between Boomers and Xers (after all, someone born in ‘65 would have been graduating high school when I was 5).
Exactly. My parents were both born in the 50’s but my Dad remembers the Kennedy yeras much more since he was born at the beginning and my Mom wasn’t even in elementary school when he was killed.
re: #131 HappyWarrior
We didn’t have cable until I was 6. I remember how we got it. My one brother and I got hooked on Nickeldeon at the Econo Lodge one vacation. We got our computer the following year because I liked playing the computer games in computers class in grade school. Got online for the first time I want to say in 6th or 7th grade. My youngest brother really has no idea what life was like before that. I do like to bust him on that to act like my childhood was somehow Dickensian- it cetainly wasn’t heh but doesn’t stop me.
Damn—I really AM old. We didn’t have a television until I was 6.
re: #160 BeachDem
Damn—I really AM old. We didn’t have a television until I was 6.
I’ll get off your lawn.
re: #141 makeitstop
That’s right! And mine’s the day after, which I share with Robert Plant and Phil Lynott (and a bunch of other cool humans).
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re: #160 BeachDem
Damn—I really AM old. We didn’t have a television until I was 6.
Did you have to go to the theater to watch serials?
(My parents were born in 1950 and 1948.)
re: #157 gocart mozart
Best song about masturbation IMHO
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re: #115 The Vicious Babushka
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I prefer to learn what year a person was born in, because that doesn’t change. Those damned ages change every year. My younger sisters expressed awe and dismay when they realized the Police song ‘Born In The 50s’ would apply to me. 1958. (Those sisters were born in 1966.)
Autoplay Arby’s ads keeps dragging me back up to the top of the page. Took me three tried to type this.
Well, since I still refuse to be that lazy as to pay for grocery delivery, I guess I need to go do something so there is food in the house.
I know I am one of the younger lizards but I always meshed in well since even though I’m teh oldest of my brothers, I have a lot of same generation (family wise) first cousins who are much older. The really older ones like to bust on me like I’m their kid cousin probably because they have kids that I could have gone to school with but the younger ones treat me more as a peer. You can guess which ones I’ve had the most fun partying with.
re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #171 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Well, since I still refuse to be that lazy as to pay for grocery delivery, I guess I need to go do something so there is food in the house.
Or you could stay home and thus speed up your weight loss…
re: #175 calochortus
Or you could stay home and thus speed up your weight loss…
I have a husband who gets very hangry.
re: #172 HappyWarrior
I know I am one of the younger lizards but I always meshed in well since even though I’m teh oldest of my brothers, I have a lot of same generation (family wise) first cousins who are much older. The really older ones like to bust on me like I’m their kid cousin probably because they have kids that I could have gone to school with but the younger ones treat me more as a peer. You can guess which ones I’ve had the most fun partying with.
Yeah, my oldest first cousin has a son who is my age. The youngest is a year or two older than my older brother.
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I always like to plug in the year I was born and my current age. Oh? So someone 30 the year I was born would be 60 this year. So that means 60 isn’t so old. It is funny though. When I reconnected with some of my old camp counselors who I knew when they were young college kids, I was in my mid 20’s, quite a bit older than they were. Now I’m around the same age when we reconnected.
re: #171 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Well, since I still refuse to be that lazy as to pay for grocery delivery, I guess I need to go do something so there is food in the house.
I’m fully lazy enough to use Peapod, and I love it!
re: #178 Timothy Watson
Yeah, my oldest first cousin has a son who is my age. The youngest is a year or two older than my older brother.
As you know, I’ve done my tree. I found that I have some family generation cousins that are old enough to be my grandparents! I guess that’s what happens when you’re descended from so many youngest siblings. I only have one first cousin whom I’m older than. Hell my one first cousin became a grandpa not long after my youngest brother was born.
re: #164 Timothy Watson
Did you have to go to theater to watch serials?
(My parents were bold in 1950 and 1948.)
Don’t recall that. We went to the movies on Saturdays a lot, but don’t remember serials.
I do remember that when the Mickey Mouse Show debuted, my brother had Hebrew school at the time it was on, and I tormented him daily because he had to miss it.
And I remember watching the Andy Devine show on Saturdays and running to hide in the kitchen cabinets when Midnight the Cat came on, because that cat freaked me out.
re: #35 Dave In Austin
So last thread, lizard ages were brought up. Just by conversation it seems that a lot of us are contemporaries.
I’m 62 and getting more liberal by the day.
Yous?
Join the club bloc cell cadre: I’m rapidly (next month) approaching official geezerhood, and I find myself getting leftier by the week. I’ve never been very right-leaning ( a holdover from Vietnam days, no doubt): but the Trump Era has pretty much edged me towards “see you on the barricades” (though NOT a Berniebot!)
Historical reference: Harry Truman was still POTUS when I was born…
How gullible are people?
This historically illiterate fake attracted 13000 likes and 1100 comments before anyone called it out:
This is the real picture at a real source:
The commercial hijacking of the 60s Counterculture was inevitable once the media conglomerates realized the profits to be made, but it also served the power structure by trivializing the issues of the day.
re: #182 HappyWarrior
As you know, I’ve done my tree. I found that I have some family generation cousins that are old enough to be my grandparents! I guess that’s what happens when you’re descended from so many youngest siblings. I only have one first cousin whom I’m older than. Hell my one first cousin became a grandpa not long after my youngest brother was born.
I hear you. I’m the baby of the family. I have cousins with kids older than I am. Dad, in particular, was a late bloomer…
Started in with slide rules and log tables Then had an electronic calculator that would calculate the square root of a number. Wow that was something.
Wow. The FBI knew this Russian doc was a fake, but they STILL used it to justify investigating Clinton’s email. https://t.co/oFSMPjZzjy
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 24, 2017
re: #154 KGxvi
The borders on generations are usually kind of fuzzy. And the experiences of older members of a generation vs younger members of a generation can vary rather dramatically. I was born in ‘78, and my experience as a GenXer is probably vastly different than someone born in ‘65 which is one of the border points between Boomers and Xers (after all, someone born in ‘65 would have been graduating high school when I was 5).
Yeah, there is only 6 years between me and my younger brother, but there are certain experiences he won’t ever be able to relate to. Like getting up to change the channel, or having to play with the stupid bunny ears to get a TV signal. Running to the store to pick up a pack of cigarettes for my dad when I was hardly tall enough to see over the counter, piling a bunch of kids in the back of a pickup and taking a ride to the beach. Things that are almost unthinkable now but were pretty commonplace in the 70’s.
It’s good to hear that many LGF members are saying they are growing more liberal as they age.
I think a lot of people think you get more conservative as you get older. Maybe that was true years ago, but since Reagan I think maybe it has changed.
What I do not get is all the college age conservatives. The old cliche was kids in college were always “wet behind the ears” liberals because they haven’t learned anything yet and don’t have ‘stuff’ to protect, etc.
Maybe the fundamental Religious teachings has something to do with it.
I guess politics is all topsy-turvy these days.
One more age-related thought before I actually do some work.
I look at the yam and see a really OLLLLDDD man. And I listen to all the talk about his diminishing faculties and his physical infirmities. Then it hits me that he’s only one year older than I am and I am gobsmacked. I still work—much of my work involves coast-to-coast travelling and working 17 hour days on the road. And every story I read about his “grueling” 9-day overseas trip just makes me laugh…and then cringe.
re: #190 ObserverArt
It’s good to hear that many LGF members are saying they are growing more liberal as they age.
I think a lot of people think you get more conservative as you get older. Maybe that was true years ago, but since Reagan I think maybe it has changed.
What I do not get is all the college age conservatives. The old cliche was kids in college were always “wet behind the ears” liberals because they haven’t learned anything yet and don’t have ‘stuff’ to protect, etc.
Maybe the fundamental Religious teachings has something to do with it.
I guess politics is all topsy-turvy these days.
My theory is college republicans are just greedy people.
re: #190 ObserverArt
It’s good to hear that many LGF members are saying they are growing more liberal as they age.
I think a lot of people think you get more conservative as you get older. Maybe that was true years ago, but since Reagan I think maybe it has changed.
What I do not get is all the college age conservatives. The old cliche was kids in college were always “wet behind the ears” liberals because they haven’t learned anything yet and don’t have ‘stuff’ to protect, etc.
Maybe the fundamental Religious teachings has something to do with it.
I guess politics is all topsy-turvy these days.
I think that’s a symptom of a failing mind. People who are losing it tend to get more frightened and selfish. I’ve always said if you’re not a Liberal at 20, you have no heart. if you’re not a Conservative at 50, you don’t have dementia.
I’ve already given my age, but I was born on the day Apollo 12 landed on the moon.
re: #192 Stanley Sea
My theory is college republicans are just greedy people.
Greedy, repressed, people, who have usually been damaged by their parents.
re: #192 Stanley Sea
My theory is college republicans are just greedy people.
They’re entitled brats. I still remember discussing same sex marriage with one and she really pissed me off when she told one of my gay friends that he just wanted marriage equality for the legal privileges that marriage brings couples.
The Right Wing Media blaming Ariana Grande for the Manchester terror attack.
thedailybeast.com
Today is the BackwoodsSleuth couples’ 14th wedding anniversary (this despite knowing each other since 1965).
One month from today I shall be 65 years old.
MrBws is still a pupper since he doesn’t achieve Medicare status until February 2020. (Fun fact: IRL his nickname is PupEDawg)
re: #196 HappyWarrior
They’re entitled brats. I still remember discussing same sex marriage with one and she really pissed me off when she told one of my gay friends that he just wanted marriage equality for the legal privileges that marriage brings couples.
Wanting equal rights is something people can be criticized for?
re: #197 DodgerFan1988
The Right Wing Media blaming Ariana Grande for the Manchester terror attack.
thedailybeast.com
These people are fucking awful. I really doubt anyone on MSNBC would be making jokes if a Toby Keith or Ted Nugent concert had this happen. These fucking people.
re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth
Today is the BackwoodsSleuth couples’ 14th wedding anniversary (this despite knowing each other since 1965).
One month from today I shall be 65 years old.
MrBws is still a pupper since he doesn’t achieve Medicare status until February 2020. (Fun fact: IRL his nickname is PupEDawg)
Congrats!
re: #200 HappyWarrior
These people are fucking awful. I really doubt anyone on MSNBC would be making jokes if a Toby Keith or Ted Nugent concert had this happen. These fucking people.
Because the people at MSNBC aren’t in a hate-driven, exclusionary, cult.
@seanhannity Your heart is full of shit
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) May 24, 2017
re: #199 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Wanting equal rights is something people can be criticized for?
Yeah aooarebtky so. She was implying that he wasn’t going to be marrying for love but just for the benefits. We had a Facebook group where GMU Dems, Republicans, and others could talk the issues. It was started by a guy who had been by in the College Republicans but started drifting left after meeting some of our people. A lot of obnoxious right wing types in that group so I had to leave.
re: #202 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Because the people at MSNBC aren’t in a hate-driven, exclusionary, cult.
Zactly.
re: #196 HappyWarrior
They’re entitled brats. I still remember discussing same sex marriage with one and she really pissed me off when she told one of my gay friends that he just wanted marriage equality for the legal privileges that marriage brings couples.
Of course they do. That would be the whole point, wouldn’t it? (As well as having society recognize your commitment.)
re: #203 Kragar
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re: #204 HappyWarrior
Yeah aooarebtky so. She was implying that he wasn’t going to be marrying for love but just for the benefits. We had a Facebook group where GMU Dems, Republicans, and others could talk the issues. It was started by a guy who had been by in the College Republicans but started drifting left after meeting some of our people. A lot of obnoxious right wing types in that group so I had to leave.
Yes, but if you wanted to marry for the benefits and you’re gay, you just marry someone of the opposite sex. That fails the most basic logic test.
Still doing the age thing?
37 here.
re: #206 calochortus
Of course they do. That would be the whole point, wouldn’t it? (As well as having society recognize your commitment.)
Yeah, I think what got me mad though was the implication that he just wanted the benefits and not the love and marriage part. It just reeked of the “free stuff” that Republicans love to throw out at people, ya know?
re: #208 calochortus
Yes, but if you wanted to marry for the benefits and you’re gay, you just marry someone of the opposite sex. That fails the most basic logic test.
Right. Remember when Bachmann tried to argue that gay marriage really wasn’t illegal since gay people could just marry people of the opposite sex? Gee, I ugess interracial marriage wasn’t illegal either.
re: #210 HappyWarrior
Yeah, I think what got me mad though was the implication that he just wanted the benefits and not the love and marriage part. It just reeked of the “free stuff” that Republicans love to throw out at people, ya know?
Yeah. It’s sad.
re: #208 calochortus
Yes, but if you wanted to marry for the benefits and you’re gay, you just marry someone of the opposite sex. That fails the most basic logic test.
Just about everything the destructive Conservatives say fails a basic logic test. That’s what happens when the truth is less important than justifying mad bigotry.
re: #213 calochortus
Yeah. It’s sad.
What I find sad is how many young conservatives are just as ignorant as their parents and grandparents. I once had a lot of hope for this generation of kids but I’m honestly not sure anymore.
re: #24 HappyWarrior
Carsdotcom is obviously be paid off by liberal fascists!
And Pfizer is all about old folks. I doubt they’ll stop advertising on fox until the old folks die off.
re: #190 ObserverArt
It’s good to hear that many LGF members are saying they are growing more liberal as they age.
I think a lot of people think you get more conservative as you get older. Maybe that was true years ago, but since Reagan I think maybe it has changed.
I’d like to think that us olds here at LGF remember enough of the 50s and 60s (and in some cases the 40s) and then what happened in the Reagan and Bush years…and the truly dreadful shit happening right now.
There’s a legitimate discussion to be had for compromise between liberal and conservative. That is NOT what we have now…now we have dystopia on our doorstep the likes of which we’ve only had hints of before.
re: #199 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Wanting equal rights is something people can be criticized for?
Please see: American History; 1865-1970.
I have to admit. I’ve always been more or less liberal but I did want to try to understand conservative ideology but conservative ideology which I’ve never liked has grown more and more ugly. George W. Bush who I never was a fan can speak more candidly about racism and confronting our past than any sitting Republican office holder can. Now, maybe that’s in part because he’s out of office but that also speaks to where the GOP has gone. When i was really young, you had people like Bachmann, Steve King, and others on the local level. They existed in the GOP but they were a small potato. And gradually they started sending tehse folks to the House. Now they’re in the Senate and WH.
re: #215 HappyWarrior
What I find sad is how many young conservatives are just as ignorant as their parents and grandparents. I once had a lot of hope for this generation of kids but I’m honestly not sure anymore.
That seems to be the whole point of their subculture. Normal people want their kids to be smarter than they are. Conservatives want them to be clones.
Gen Y and the Millennials should be smarter than older people because they never breathed in tetraethyl lead like we did, or ate lead paint chips, but so many of them are fools.
re: #218 A wild WITHAK appeared!
That is an amazing typo, BTW :-D
I have the best and unintentional typos.
re: #196 HappyWarrior
They’re entitled brats. I still remember discussing same sex marriage with one and she really pissed me off when she told one of my gay friends that he just wanted marriage equality for the legal privileges that marriage brings couples.
Actually, I’m pretty sure that all they (or any couple in love) want.
.@alfranken, in Giant of the Senate, recounts @amyklobuchar pre-clearing a Ted Cruz joke she was going to tell at Gridiron with @tedcruz pic.twitter.com/xj3ox3hFqT
— jonathantilove (@JTiloveTX) May 24, 2017
re: #190 ObserverArt
It’s good to hear that many LGF members are saying they are growing more liberal as they age.
I think a lot of people think you get more conservative as you get older. Maybe that was true years ago, but since Reagan I think maybe it has changed.
What I do not get is all the college age conservatives. The old cliche was kids in college were always “wet behind the ears” liberals because they haven’t learned anything yet and don’t have ‘stuff’ to protect, etc.
Maybe the fundamental Religious teachings has something to do with it.
I guess politics is all topsy-turvy these days.
My dad is getting more liberal as he gets older.
As for kids getting more conservative, I think what is happening is that the reactionary ones are getting more vocal because they’re not getting to be just rude to minorities or women. They have been energized by Trump’s election, but they’re just more out in the open.
re: #196 HappyWarrior
They’re entitled brats. I still remember discussing same sex marriage with one and she really pissed me off when she told one of my gay friends that he just wanted marriage equality for the legal privileges that marriage brings couples.
And? Did she see a problem with his wanting the same rights that other people have?
re: #221 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
That seems to be the whole point of their subculture. Normal people want their kids to be smarter than they are. Conservatives want them to be clones.
Gen Y and the Millennials should be smarter than older people because they never breathed in tetraethyl lead like we did, or ate lead paint chips, but so many of them are fools.
You know, I will say this, as much as I get frustrated that my brother doesn’t share my exact views, I’m also glad he’s carved out his own worldview through his own observations. Now, I think he’s wrong on some of this but at the same time, I appreciate that despite being surrounded by left liberals like me, our parents, my other brother and grandmother, he’s more or less found his own belief system. For all their shiting on liberals for being “intolerant”, I never ever see conservatives have any real tolerance for people of differing beliefs. And I mean real tolerance as in acknowledging they have a right to exist, as toxic as I find Milo, I don’t think he should be banned from entry to the US, ditto the Tea Party, these people on the other hand do want to ban thigns they don’t like.
re: #210 HappyWarrior
Yeah, I think what got me mad though was the implication that he just wanted the benefits and not the love and marriage part. It just reeked of the “free stuff” that Republicans love to throw out at people, ya know?
Probably a distinct possibility that’s why Melania married the yam (pretty sure that’s why Marla married him…)
re: #35 Dave In Austin
So last thread, lizard ages were brought up. Just by conversation it seems that a lot of us are contemporaries.
I’m 62 and getting more liberal by the day.
Yous?
57. I think. Maybe a year or so one way or the other. I lost count after 50. Or stopped paying attention. 😎
re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth
Actually, I’m pretty sure that all they (or any couple in love) want.
Yeah that’s what I tried saying. Deaf ears adn all that. It’s especially funny when I hear someone like Newt Gingrich or Limbaugh calling gay people immoral. And it’s like really guys. I read about gay couples who were together when you two were shitting yourselves.
re: #226 BeachDem
And? Did she see a problem with his wanting the same rights that other people have?
Yeah but she insisted his desire for equal rights was wanting “special rights.” Because you know visiting your loved one in the hospital is such a special privilege to demand.
re: #232 HappyWarrior
Yeah but she insisted his desire for equal rights was wanting “special rights.” Because you know visiting your loved one in the hospital is such a special privilege to demand.
Some people are just assholes, and all you can do is marginalize them.
re: #55 HappyWarrior
Francis really is one of the best things to happen to Catholicism. Didn’t like Benedict much at all- never called him a Nazi but wasn’t a fan. I admired John Paul II more or less due to his experience in WWII and the Cold War.
I absolutely hated JP2. I watched him speak in Ethiopia about the evils of birth control when kids were literally starving to death hourly (in the 80s). I hated the church until Francis came to be.
re: #232 HappyWarrior
Yeah but she insisted his desire for equal rights was wanting “special rights.” Because you know visiting your loved one in the hospital is such a special privilege to demand.
I’m really floored by women who make those arguments. Next time, suggest that we go back to a time when women had to get permission from either their husband, or if they weren’t married their father, in order to get credit or a loan, you know, the 1970s. Then you can talk about how women really shouldn’t have gotten that privilege.
re: #235 Belafon
I’m really floored by women who make those arguments. Next time, suggest that we go back to a time when women had to get permission from either their husband, or if they weren’t married their father, in order to get credit or a loan, you know, the 1970s. Then you can talk about how women really shouldn’t have gotten that privilege.
And back then they were known as Mrs. [Husband’s full name].
It’s easy to forget how recent the bad old days were.
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re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’d like to think that us olds here at LGF remember enough of the 50s and 60s (and in some cases the 40s) and then what happened in the Reagan and Bush years…and the truly dreadful shit happening right now.
There’s a legitimate discussion to be had for compromise between liberal and conservative. That is NOT what we have now…now we have dystopia on our doorstep the likes of which we’ve only had hints of before.
Let me add (as I continue to avoid working) that with all the ragging done about selfish/horrible Boomers, the old (like me) Dems I know are all really active, engaged, liberal and compassionate. Yes, there are a whole lot of old conservative assholes, but the old libs are still fighting the good fight.
We have one woman in our Dem women’s group who is 92 and is working this week to organize a Dem group in her retirement community. She is about as feisty and liberal as they come. When we did our women’s history month program last year, she waxed nostalgic about meeting Frances Perkins back in the day!
re: #240 Stanley Sea
Vatican. He was there, but not invited in.
Maybe he’s one of the three leakers to be fired with Trump gets back to America.
re: #238 Stanley Sea
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re: #225 Belafon
My dad is getting more liberal as he gets older.
As for kids getting more conservative, I think what is happening is that the reactionary ones are getting more vocal because they’re not getting to be just rude to minorities or women. They have been energized by Trump’s election, but they’re just more out in the open.
My Michigan uncle was very Republican; he eventually moved to Illinois in 2002 at the age of 80 to live with my mother who was a Democrat. They disagreed on every topic including gay marriage; within a couple years he decided to move out to a nearby retirement community. By the time 2008 came around, he was supporting Obama and this past year, at the age of 94, he was ranting about how anyone could possible vote for Trump. In his case, he would still be Republican if it had remained the party of Rockefeller, John Linsdsay, and the other moderates who cared about people. As has often been said, he didn’t leave the party; the party left him.
re: #127 HappyWarrior
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re: #135 KGxvi
That’s probably true. Just the first few photos I saw made it appear that his Holiness was not particularly happy to be there. I’m sure Francis is a better person than I am, or would be in that situation, so I’m also sure that there will be at least a few photos of him smiling with Trump.
Except that video of Francis giving Trump the stink eye is real.
re: #210 HappyWarrior
Yeah, I think what got me mad though was the implication that he just wanted the benefits and not the love and marriage part. It just reeked of the “free stuff” that Republicans love to throw out at people, ya know?
Speaking of free stuff, one of the local right wing talkers(I hate listen sometimes) spent half his show talking about this whole foods receipt someone sent him last week apparently paid for with an EBT. It is amazing how much of a froth these guys can work themselves into.
re: #244 Stanley Sea
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re: #248 danarchy
Speaking of free stuff, one of the local right wing talkers(I hate listen sometimes) spent half his show talking about this whole foods receipt someone sent him last week apparently paid for with an EBT. It is amazing how much of a froth these guys can work themselves into.
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As if there is an EBT benefit INANYFUNCKINGREALITY that would pay for even a fraction of that receipt.
re: #248 danarchy
Speaking of free stuff, one of the local right wing talkers(I hate listen sometimes) spent half his show talking about this whole foods receipt someone sent him last week apparently paid for with an EBT. It is amazing how much of a froth these guys can work themselves into.
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If poor people eat poorly, people like that complain about having to pay for their medical bills. If they eat well, they complain about them using their money on good food. Wish they would just shut the hell up. You notice that these guys never ever complain about military waste which is much more bigger than this.
re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth
As if there is an EBT benefit INANYFUNCKINGREALITY that would pay for even a fraction of that receipt.
Yeah but narratives and all that.
re: #244 Stanley Sea
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re: #252 HappyWarrior
Yeah but narratives and all that.
Some people really want to hate the poor. They’re sickos.
re: #246 MsJ
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re: #248 danarchy
bottom of the receipt says the EBT balance is $2194.40.
IN WHAT FUCKING REALITY??????????
re: #158 Interesting Times
Gen X’er here. To be more specific…
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re: #248 danarchy
Speaking of free stuff, one of the local right wing talkers(I hate listen sometimes) spent half his show talking about this whole foods receipt someone sent him last week apparently paid for with an EBT. It is amazing how much of a froth these guys can work themselves into.
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Some of those prices look ludicrous (does Whole Foods do stuff in bulk or really large quantities?) but the food choices look healthy and reasonable, at least.
re: #254 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Some people really want to hate the poor. They’re sickos.
They do hate the poor. It’s wanting them to suffer that is the thing. Saw my one SiL do something pretty nice though when we were out having lunch together. We had a leftover taco and she gave it to the first homeless guy she saw. I really like talking to her. I could just see how interested she was (she came over here when she was in high school from Peru) how interested she was in learning more about the Lincoln assassination. She had no idea about the complex plot Booth had planned to create chaos by assassinating Secretary Seward, VP Johnson, and General Grant.
re: #169 wrenchwench
Hey. Are you still around? I have a question for you.
When I fed the poor, they called me a saint. When I asked why they were poor, they called me a Communist. I think a South American lefty priest said that.
imma doing some EBT benefits math…gonna take me a few minutes….
re: #241 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Maybe he’s one of the three leakers to be fired with Trump gets back to America.
I read the other day he’s gone after this trip. I want sure if it was true. Maybe that was spot on.
re: #265 MsJ
I read the other day he’s gone after this trip. I want sure if it was true. Maybe that was spot on.
If I were Spicer, I’d be leaking like a sieve.
A man can take only so much lying for a scoundrel like Trump. It’s not worth any salary.
re: #261 MsJ
Hey. Are you still around? I have a question for you.
In and out. That wasn’t the question you speak of, was it.
re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth
bottom of the receipt says the EBT balance is $2194.40.
IN WHAT FUCKING REALITY??????????
Looking at the amount of food being bought, it looks like somebody buying for an institutional/group. (Who could eat 4 12-packs of tangerines before they rotted?)
re: #268 BeachDem
Looking at the amount of food being bought, it looks like somebody buying for an institutional/group. (Who could eat 4 12-packs of tangerines before they rotted?)
Context is a motherfucker isn’t it? Perhaps this is an individual buying for a home or something like that? Definitely does not seem to be an individual shopper.
re: #35 Dave In Austin
So last thread, lizard ages were brought up. Just by conversation it seems that a lot of us are contemporaries.
I’m 62 and getting more liberal by the day.
Yous?
I try to avoid too many personal details, but I think I’ve mentioned already that I was born when Truman was president and the war was still going on.
re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth
imma doing some EBT benefits math…gonna take me a few minutes….
OK, my informal napkin calculations indicate that the Whole Foods receipt shows an EBT benefit of at least $2765.13 (the balance left plus the amount spent on that receipt).
According to the USDA, that benefit would apply for a family of almost 19:
re: #267 wrenchwench
In and out. That wasn’t the question you speak of, was it.
Do you have any experience with Sunseeker trikes? I’m thinking of getting one.
re: #259 A wild WITHAK appeared!
Some of those prices look ludicrous (does Whole Foods do stuff in bulk or really large quantities?) but the food choices look healthy and reasonable, at least.
No Whole foods doesn’t do bulk, their nickname is Whole Paycheck because they are that expensive.
re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth
OK, my informal napkin calculations indicate that the Whole Foods receipt shows an EBT benefit of at least $2765.13 (the balance left plus the amount spent on that receipt).
According to the USDA, that benefit would apply for a family of almost 19:
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So the shoppers were the Duggars!
re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth
OK, my informal napkin calculations indicate that the Whole Foods receipt shows an EBT benefit of at least $2765.13 (the balance left plus the amount spent on that receipt).
According to the USDA, that benefit would apply for a family of almost 19:
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So, IOW, the Duggars…
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re: #273 danarchy
I kinda figured that; never shopped there myself, and with those prices, likely never will…
re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth
OK, my informal napkin calculations indicate that the Whole Foods receipt shows an EBT benefit of at least $2765.13 (the balance left plus the amount spent on that receipt).
According to the USDA, that benefit would apply for a family of almost 19:
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In most states benefits accrue if unused. I know in Massachusetts a few years back they actually had to put a cap on the accrual because a small number of people were building big balances.
re: #277 A wild WITHAK appeared!
I kinda figured that; never shopped there myself, and with those prices, likely never will…
Trader Joes is better and doesn’t have a cheapskate Ayn Rand fanboy running the place.
Evil
In an interview, HUD Secretary Ben Carson says poverty is a “state of mind” @jdelreal reports https://t.co/uXJXjvZHFb pic.twitter.com/xhMzTEdejV
— Yashar (@yashar) May 24, 2017
re: #278 danarchy
In most states benefits accrue if unused. I know in Massachusetts a few years back they actually had to put a cap on the accrual because a small number of people were building big balances.
I don’t necessarily doubt the receipt is real, the thing is of the tens or hundreds of thousands of EBT recipients, people who abuse the system are a vanishing small percentage.
Annnnnnd with the troll
Ben Carson, wealthy neurosurgeon in charge of affordable housing for the poor, says poverty is a “state of mind” https://t.co/EgdHEHuDB9
— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) May 24, 2017
Huh. We say poverty is the condition of having little or no money, goods, or means of support.https://t.co/HBXsKo83sQ https://t.co/IRdMSW93eC
re: #267 wrenchwench
In and out. That wasn’t the question you speak of, was it.
FYY, this is the type that I’m looking at (similar to this one).
I recently started reading food labels because my bad cholesterol is suddenly high, and have had to give up some tasty things, when I found they contain trans-fats.
Panera Mac & Cheese tastes fantastic, but a small container is 600 calories with 300 calories from fat, and 1.5g of trans fat. Prego Alfredo rotini has less calories, and a lower fat %, but has a gram of trans fat.
This is what I get for reading what’s in my food.
re: #286 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
I recently started reading food labels because my bad cholesterol is suddenly high, and have had to give up some tasty things, when I found they contain trans-fats.
Panera Mac & Cheese tastes fantastic, but a small container is 600 calories with 300 calories from fat, and 1.5g of trans fat. Prego Alfredo rotini has less calories, and a lower fat %, but has a gram of trans fat.
This is what I get for reading what’s in my food.
welcome to my food angst…
@KeithLockwood2 @aravosis Found this one to. pic.twitter.com/5VNIEn8bhj
— Chris (@SuaveLechuza) May 24, 2017
It’s out
H.R. 1628, American Health Care Act of 2017 https://t.co/9RgzL6APO1
— CBO Cost Estimates (@USCBOcostest) May 24, 2017
re: #284 Stanley Sea
Annnnnnd with the troll
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There’s a tiny fragment of truth in what he says. Attitude can keep one locked into poverty, but lack of opportunity is the biggest problem.
Most people will not be as lucky as he was. He has no idea that luck played a role in his life, because he’s an arrogant asshole.
H.R. 1628, American Health Care Act of 2017 https://t.co/9RgzL6APO1
— CBO Cost Estimates (@USCBOcostest) May 24, 2017
“Increase in # of uninsured people relative to number projected under current law would reach 19 million in 2020 and 23 million in 2026” https://t.co/4KBjRo0Y0v
— David S. Joachim (@davidjoachim) May 24, 2017
“In 2026, an estimated 51M people under age 65 would be uninsured, compared with 28M who would lack insurance that year under current law” https://t.co/7HFudaUk0F
— David S. Joachim (@davidjoachim) May 24, 2017
re: #289 Stanley Sea
Who had 23 million uninsured? They win the pool.
CBO and JCT estimate that enacting the American Health Care Act would reduce federal deficits by $119 billion over the coming decade and increase the number of people who are uninsured by 23 million in 2026 relative to current law.
re: #281 Stanley Sea
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Well, since Ben Carson is out of his mind…
Seriously, though—it’s all a piece of this idiotic administration—like asshole Tom Price (another idiotic doctor) saying God is the answer to the opioid problem.
re: #282 danarchy
I don’t necessarily doubt the receipt is real, the thing is of the tens or hundreds of thousands of EBT recipients, people who abuse the system are a vanishing small percentage.
Exactly.
re: #288 nines09
Damn find photoshopping there. I bet that could be passed around the internet and millions would believe it.
If you picked 23 million more uninsured as a result of Trumpcare v.2, you won - which means we all lose.
These fuckers can’t get around the fact that their plan means more people are uncovered, and more costs are shifted on to those who can’t afford them so that the rich get their fucking tax cuts.
re: #130 Charles Johnson
I’m so old my first modem was the kind that had rubber cups you had to put a telephone handset into. 300 baud. You could see the characters appear on screen one by one.
Hah! Yes!! The great thing was I could proofread text as it was going out over the modem!
re: #293 BeachDem
Well, since Ben Carson is out of his mind…
Seriously, though—it’s all a piece of this idiotic administration—like asshole Tom Price (another idiotic doctor) saying God is the answer to the opioid problem.
Price seriously said that? And the man’s a fucking doctor?
It can go to the senate
No new House vote needed; CBO says bill would reduce federal deficits by $119 billion over decade pic.twitter.com/IMh1S60Fne
— David S. Joachim (@davidjoachim) May 24, 2017
re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth
bottom of the receipt says the EBT balance is $2194.40.
IN WHAT FUCKING REALITY??????????
It’s a fake. I have been behind people who have used EBT cards. They get the itemized receipt. The store keeps a much smaller receipt that is not itemized.
re: #291 Stanley Sea
“It’s not about taking care of people, it’s about getting them to where they don’t need care.”
@michaeldweiss Jesus. This guy is completely out of control, giving away classified info to murderous dictators.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 24, 2017
re: #289 Stanley Sea
It’s out
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— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) May 24, 2017
re: #302 Belafon
“It’s not about taking care of people, it’s about getting them to where they don’t need care.”
Well I guess when you’re dead you don’t need care any longer.
re: #299 HappyWarrior
Boringly broken record here… but our society really is in the midst of a worldview collapse. The Price/Carson/Trump idiotic statements are direct examples of people desperately trying to reify some belief in “God” in the face of atheistic (or at least agnostic) modernity.
re: #300 Stanley Sea
It can go to the senate
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@davidjoachim While depriving millions of Americans of health insurance.
This is enemy-action.— (((Jeff Furling))) (@FurlingtonJeff) May 24, 2017
re: #306 freetoken
Boringly broken record here… but our society really is in the midst of a worldview collapse. The Price/Carson/Trump idiotic statements are direct examples of people desperately trying to reify some belief in “God” in the face of atheistic (or at least agnostic) modernity.
True though I think you can still believe in the power of God and still think we on Earth should be able to help those who need it.
re: #306 freetoken
Boringly broken record here… but our society really is in the midst of a worldview collapse. The Price/Carson/Trump idiotic statements are direct examples of people desperately trying to reify some belief in “God” in the face of atheistic (or at least agnostic) modernity.
If only they’d get on with the collapse, instead of becoming more insular and delusional.
re: #308 HappyWarrior
True though I think you can still believe in the power of God and still think we on Earth should be able to help those who need it.
Conservative-God.
re: #309 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
If only they’d get on with the collapse, instead of becoming more insular and delusional.
If we can get them out of power, they can go collapse in the corner.
re: #310 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Conservative-God.
Not even conservative God, conservative Protestant Evangelical God who sounds like a real joy to be around.
Dang it, who’s that guy who tweets health insurance who used to work with Obama admin???
Trump tells Duterte of two U.S. nuclear subs in Korean waters: NYT | Reuters https://t.co/yVNQ8Cvwek
— Michael Weiss (@michaeldweiss) May 24, 2017
I’ve led submarine special ops near hostile territory. Stealth is life. NK patrols will increase. Now our crews are at much greater risk! https://t.co/gu6ixwzve5
— Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) May 24, 2017
Why would anyone bother going to war with us? Our government will kill far more Americans than any amount of bombs could. And these other countries wouldn’t have to spend a dime, or sacrifice a single life.
re: #299 HappyWarrior
Price seriously said that? And the man’s a fucking doctor?
Asked about drug treatment options, Price touted faith-based programs while showing less support for medication-assisted programs in which addicts are weaned off heroin with other opioids like Suboxone and methadone.
“If we’re just substituting one opioid for another, we’re not moving the dial much,” he said. “Folks need to be cured so they can be productive members of society and realize their dreams.”
wvgazettemail.com
Hmmm… I had the over/under at 22.5 million. What do I win.
The craven fuckers in the GOP will ignore this? You betcha. How could they not?
Or, will they hope Trump screws something else up to take the heat off their continuing failure to do basic math.
Every iteration of Trumpcare is as bad or worse than Obamacare. They cannot provide equivalent coverage to the equivalent number of people. Each GOP version means more people lose coverage, the coverage they have is worse, and the costs are shifted on to those least able to afford them.
That’s exactly what the GOP wants - to get health care off the federal/state/local books, but it means that a lot more people end up dead. And for the GOP that too isn’t a bad thing. That’s a feature, not a bug.
It’s also a recurring feature that the Trumpcare serves more as a tax scheme than a health care program, because none of the GOP seems to know how insurance actually works, let alone health insurance.
Life is so confusing these days.
Dance like no one’s watching. Sing like no one’s listening. Tweet like you’ve forgotten who your core audience is. pic.twitter.com/zCdSQiQc4a
— shauna (@goldengateblond) May 23, 2017
The JCT calculates that scrapping the ACA taxes would cost $662 billion over a decade (that’s lost revenues). That includes the net investment income tax repeal, which would cost $172 billion over 10 years. Guess who gets that bonus money? Yeah, high income earners (aka millionaires like Trump).
No shit sherlock
Quite a paragraph in the CBO report - expects law would greatly destabilize insurance markets. pic.twitter.com/FQnMsfagz5
— Sarah Kliff (@sarahkliff) May 24, 2017
I am 307 years old.
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re: #316 BeachDem
Asked about drug treatment options, Price touted faith-based programs while showing less support for medication-assisted programs in which addicts are weaned off heroin with other opioids like Suboxone and methadone.
“If we’re just substituting one opioid for another, we’re not moving the dial much,” he said. “Folks need to be cured so they can be productive members of society and realize their dreams.”
wvgazettemail.com
You have no idea how much that attitude just pisses me off. It’s a very personal reason relating to my family that I’d rather not air out for the entire world to see but Jesus f-ing Christ.
re: #35 Dave In Austin
So last thread, lizard ages were brought up. Just by conversation it seems that a lot of us are contemporaries.
I’m 62 and getting more liberal by the day.
Yous?
I’m 44, going on 75 one minute and 7 the next.
re: #316 BeachDem
Asked about drug treatment options, Price touted faith-based programs while showing less support for medication-assisted programs in which addicts are weaned off heroin with other opioids like Suboxone and methadone.
“If we’re just substituting one opioid for another, we’re not moving the dial much,” he said. “Folks need to be cured so they can be productive members of society and realize their dreams.”
wvgazettemail.com
Are 12 Step programs considered faith-based? I know there’s the whole “higher power” thing, but I don’t know what that actually means. I do know quite a few people that have worked the steps over the years and most (if not all) have come through clean.
I honestly don’t know a lot about detox programs, but I’m guessing there’s probably a combination of medication and counseling involved in any good rehab program.
re: #318 MsJ
Life is so confusing these days.
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re: #325 KGxvi
Are 12 Step programs considered faith-based? I know there’s the whole “higher power” thing, but I don’t know what that actually means. I do know quite a few people that have worked the steps over the years and most (if not all) have come through clean.
I honestly don’t know a lot about detox programs, but I’m guessing there’s probably a combination of medication and counseling involved in any good rehab program.
I’ve got second hand experience with 12 step programs. Faith? MAybe but not necessarily religious faith but it seems to me that ti depends who is running the meetings. Someone like Price easily could turn a big book meeting into a big,g big book meeting.
re: #314 Charles Johnson
The man is a walking/talking national security breach. Those men and women are my shipmates and he’s putting them at risk.
re: #185 Shiplord Kirelre: #288 nines09
@KeithLockwood2 @aravosis Found this one to. pic.twitter.com/5VNIEn8bhj
— Chris (@SuaveLechuza) May 24, 2017
And Jezebel/Callista is not even included. I can just hear the Pope’s first meeting with her.
“You know, they used to stone women like you, but our boss put a stop to that.”
re: #323 HappyWarrior
You have no idea how much that attitude just pisses me off. It’s a very personal reason relating to my family that I’d rather not air out for the entire world to see but Jesus f-ing Christ.
He has no idea how addiction works…. We are so fucked. At least for the time being.
re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth
Congratulations. My wife and I are celebrating 9 years today. :)
CBO estimates that in states requesting AHCA waivers, premiums for low-income elderly enrollees would go up 800 percent. That is not a typo. pic.twitter.com/W7QC4z9UUS
— Sarah Kliff (@sarahkliff) May 24, 2017
This is just immoral. https://t.co/am1R4yh618
— Sara Lang (@SaraLang) May 24, 2017
re: #327 HappyWarrior
I’ve got second hand experience with 12 step programs. Faith? MAybe but not necessarily religious faith but it seems to me that ti depends who is running the meetings. Someone like Price easily could turn a big book meeting into a big,g big book meeting.
Yeah, I’ve heard that too, know someone in the program that lived most of their life in the greater LA area and worked the steps, then moved to southern Missouri, said the meetings there were quite different.
re: #315 GlutenFreeJesus
Why would anyone bother going to war with us? Our government will kill far more Americans than any amount of bombs could. And these other countries wouldn’t have to spend a dime, or sacrifice a single life.
I think you just found the Putin Make Russia Great Again playbook.
POLL: Majority of Americans think Trump is abusing his power https://t.co/aM1hU0DiQA pic.twitter.com/mZf8P1io3A
— The Hill (@thehill) May 24, 2017
re: #327 HappyWarrior
I have 1st hand experience having sobered up in AA. I haven’t had a drink since 93.
12 step programs are not faith based. While the 3rd step references a “Power Greater than Yourself”, one can make of that what they want.
re: #336 Kragar
37% approval rating. Striking distance of the crazification factor. This is really in play, isn’t it?
re: #333 b.d.
So now the wingnuts love the CBO again…
They would love you too if you say to them “tax cut.”
re: #316 BeachDem
Asked about drug treatment options, Price touted faith-based programs while showing less support for medication-assisted programs in which addicts are weaned off heroin with other opioids like Suboxone and methadone.
“If we’re just substituting one opioid for another, we’re not moving the dial much,” he said. “Folks need to be cured so they can be productive members of society and realize their dreams.”
wvgazettemail.com
I want to point out that the reporter, Eric Eyre, won the Pulitzer for Investigative Reporting for his series on how the pharmaceutical companies (and others) are behind the opioid epidemic in WVa and elsewhere.
re: #337 Dave In Austin
I have 1st hand experience having sobered up in AA. I haven’t had a drink since 93.
12 step programs are not faith based. While the 3rd step references a “Power Greater than Yourself”, one can make of that what they want.
My bipolar alcoholic ex had Jiminy Cricket as her higher power.
re: #325 KGxvi
Are 12 Step programs considered faith-based? I know there’s the whole “higher power” thing, but I don’t know what that actually means. I do know quite a few people that have worked the steps over the years and most (if not all) have come through clean.
I honestly don’t know a lot about detox programs, but I’m guessing there’s probably a combination of medication and counseling involved in any good rehab program.
Knowing how batshit Price and all the rest of the yam’s posse is, he’s probably talking about the scientology fraud, narcanon or something similar.
Followup on his comments—
The secretary’s comments directly oppose literature from the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Administration, a division of HHS. “The goal of medication-assisted treatment is to recover from addiction,” reads “Medication-Assisted Treatment for Opioid Addiction: Facts for Families and Friends.” The literature goes on: “It does NOT replace one addictive drug with another. It provides a safe, controlled level of medication to overcome the use of a problem opioid.”
and
medication-assisted treatment (MAT) programs Price rejects are the “gold standard” for overcoming opioid addiction:
Considered by many experts to be the “gold standard” for overcoming opioid addiction, MAT uses prescription medications like buprenorphine or methadone to reduce cravings, allowing patients to work on the underlying issues leading to their substance use, without the constant pressure of withdrawal.
re: #272 MsJ
Do you have any experience with Sunseeker trikes? I’m thinking of getting one.
re: #285 MsJ
FYY, this is the type that I’m looking at (similar to this one).
Don’t know if I’ve sold or worked on those specifically, but it looks good. The important differences in recumbents (2 wheel or 3 wheel) are high-handlebar or low, and long-wheelbase or short. The example trike is low-handlebar, short-wheelbase. Next thing is a test-ride, if possible. Some bike shops have them, most don’t.
re: #43 The Vicious Babushka
Who are the oldest & the youngest Lizards?
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re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth
Remember when we first went into Iraq and LOTs of people were addicted to Tranqs (lorazapam as I recall). They were begging our troops for pills?
Please help .@seanhannity by calling 👇 numbers and let them know you support Sean! Media Matters is trying to silence him. #MAGA #SethRich 👊 pic.twitter.com/1OfWI7JIxk
— ᗷᗩᔕᗴᗪ ᑭᖇᎥᔕᑕᎥᒪᒪᗩ🌹 (@passionatechica) May 24, 2017
Here is a helpful list of phone number to call to #FireHannity https://t.co/u0RKhUn7Dw
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) May 24, 2017
Key dynamic: What matters more $119 billion in savings or 23 million uninsured by 2026?
— Chris Cillizza (@CillizzaCNN) May 24, 2017
I contend this is the most loathsome pundit on @CNN. Unlike idiots they have on as Trump surrogates, he has a veneer of being a journalist. https://t.co/EB9vQ6u5v6
— Clay C. (@ClayC1969) May 24, 2017
re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth
I want to point out that the reporter, Eric Eyre, won the Pulitzer for Investigative Reporting for his series on how the pharmaceutical companies (and others) are beind the opioid epidemic in WVa and elsewhere.
That was a fabulous article. Truly sad. Devastating even. But that Pulitzer was earned.
re: #325 KGxvi
Are 12 Step programs considered faith-based? I know there’s the whole “higher power” thing, but I don’t know what that actually means. I do know quite a few people that have worked the steps over the years and most (if not all) have come through clean.
I honestly don’t know a lot about detox programs, but I’m guessing there’s probably a combination of medication and counseling involved in any good rehab program.
They might have started as faith-based, but I know a lot of people in 12-step programs who are non-believers and manage to keep their addictions under control for much better reasons than god. It’s a constant fight/struggle, but it’s more actual physical support, and the need/want to be free than any supposed higher power.
Really hard to explain, but essentially it’s that hitting rock bottom thing and where do you want to go from there: just give up or pull yourself out.
For some people, god/higher power is what works, for a lot of others it’s just hard work and determination.
re: #350 Kragar
Hannity has been drawing over 3 million viewers on some nights. That’s a lot of eyes for some of those advertisers.
Boycotts can work. But for a large company whose products are often bought by the 50+y.o. market, Hannity is useful for them, regardless of what he says.
re: #289 Stanley Sea
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re: #351 bratwurst
A good journalist would dig into what the “119 billion” really means, how viable of a number that is, and what a deficit really means.
re: #302 Belafon
“It’s not about taking care of people, it’s about getting them to where they don’t need care.”
I.e., dead.
re: #346 Cheechako
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re: #273 danarchy
No Whole foods doesn’t do bulk, their nickname is Whole Paycheck because they are that expensive.
“Bulk” at Whole Foods refers to items bought not in a pre-sized container. (They do flours, grains, dried beans, trail mix, etc., as well as grinding peanut butter, etc. in the store, bulk spices, various oils, the works.)
They are expensive. They’re also the place I can reliably find certain types of food and at very good quality, so… every week sees two grocery trips. One to Whole Foods (done for today) and one to Safeway (for everything else, still to be done).
re: #351 bratwurst
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re: #345 wrenchwench
Don’t know if I’ve sold or worked on those specifically, but it looks good. The important differences in recumbents (2 wheel or 3 wheel) are high-handlebar or low, and long-wheelbase or short. The example trike is low-handlebar, short-wheelbase. Next thing is a test-ride, if possible. Some bike shops have them, most don’t.
I bought a two wheel recumbent that I cannot learn to ride (selling it now). I need training wheels. Hubby fell off of it the other day. So, while my engineer husband and I were discussing making training wheels I looked at these guys instead.
I rode a delta style (two rear wheels) trike by this company (so comfy!) And a similar recumbent tadpole (two wheels front) and liked the tadpole better. It’s really responsive. But the seat in the Sunseeker is better than any of the others. And I’m not lying down to peddle.
Thanks for looking!!!
re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth
I want to point out that the reporter, Eric Eyre, won the Pulitzer for Investigative Reporting for his series on how the pharmaceutical companies (and others) are beind the opioid epidemic in WVa and elsewhere.
I’ve mentioned previously on this site — the pharmaceutical companies have a lot to answer for; it’s unfortunate that, apparently, the corporate CEO’s and their employees who promote these drugs cannot be held responsible for the crimes they have committed and are continuing to commit against the people of this country.
The big question is whether, in this world where nearly everything is rationed by price, we want to as a nation make health care available to as many of our people as possible, or not.
That’s the question.
Trump’s answer is: No.
Who did it better? pic.twitter.com/axeT95txbH
— Enlargeyournerd (@Enlargeyournerd) May 24, 2017
re: #354 freetoken
Hannity has been drawing over 3 million viewers on some nights. That’s a lot of eyes for some of those advertisers.
Boycotts can work. But for a large company whose products are often bought by the 50+y.o. market, Hannity is useful for them, regardless of what he says.
Yup. Agree 100%.
Benz maybe not so much. But the drug companies? Hannity could tell people to kill and eat kids and they won’t stop advertising.
Uproarious television clown Sean Hannity amuses millions with apology, in the fashion of a simpering slave, to family of slandered dead man. pic.twitter.com/lsBIYrdVht
— DPRK News Service (@DPRK_News) May 24, 2017
re: #336 Kragar
I’m looking at the numbers on that poll, the only category where Trump has an approval rating over 50% (besides Republican) is white/no college which comes in at 52%. Basically, to approve of Trump you have to be a Republican (84%) white male (47%) over the age of 50 (42%) with no college education (52%).
This is another interesting one: are you optimistic or pessimistic with Trump as president? 45% optimistic, 52% pessimistic. Again, to be optimistic, you need to be a Republican (88%), white male (55%) over the age of 50 (49%) with no college education (59%).
re: #366 MsJ
Yup. Agree 100%.
Benz maybe not so much. But the drug companies? Hannity could tell people to kill and eat kids and they won’t stop advertising.
A few years ago there was a study (the seriousness of which I have no idea) that indicates the average MB buyer was 55 years old. It was not the brand with the oldest demographics, but it was high on the list.
re: #369 ObserverArt
Cool kitteh…with the raccoon tail.
One of my cats has a great striped tail like that. It looks like he stole it from my other cat, who has about an inch of tail.
re: #368 KGxvi
I’m looking at the numbers on that poll, the only category where Trump has an approval rating over 50% (besides Republican) is white/no college which comes in at 52%. Basically, to approve of Trump you have to be a Republican (84%) white male (47%) over the age of 50 (42%) with no college education (52%).
This is another interesting one: are you optimistic or pessimistic with Trump as president? 45% optimistic, 52% pessimistic. Again, to be optimistic, you need to be a Republican (88%), white male (55%) over the age of 50 (49%) with no college education (59%).
Interestingly except for the Republican part, that’s my Dad. White, over 50, and no college education. Thankfully he hates Trump.
re: #364 freetoken
The big question is whether, in this world where nearly everything is rationed by price, we want to as a nation make health care available to as many of our people as possible, or not.
That’s the question.
Trump’s answer is: No.
No — it’s not Trump. It’s the entire Republican party. After all, it was the Ryan plan, not a plan created by the Trump team. They are going to kill millions of people and they DON’T CARE.
re: #373 Hecuba’s daughter
No — it’s not Trump. It’s the entire Republican party. After all, it was the Ryan plan, not a plan created by the Trump team. They are going to kill millions of people and they DON’T CARE.
Part of the problem is there are a whole bunch of people who fall in the group of people who will die because of this but don’t realize it and so are cheering the whole thing on.
And some of that is willful ignorance.
I don’t have a solution but I do have a prescription I have to go pick up and another round of grocery shopping to do.
re: #370 freetoken
A few years ago there was a study (the seriousness of which I have no idea) that indicates the average MB buyer was 55 years old. It was not the brand with the oldest demographics, but it was high on the list.
Personally, I think Benz is junk. I drove one and was less than impressed. I got a BMW and have only had BMW’s ever since. I was happy to see BMW wasn’t on their list. I’d have called them in a heartbeat. I call companies where I have weight. Having bought five of their vehicles gives me weight. Like canceling the NYT. They tend to listen more when they have money on the line.
re: #337 Dave In Austin
I have 1st hand experience having sobered up in AA. I haven’t had a drink since 93.
12 step programs are not faith based. While the 3rd step references a “Power Greater than Yourself”, one can make of that what they want.
and when did you turn 93?
re: #362 Hecuba’s daughter
I’ve mentioned previously on this site — the pharmaceutical companies have a lot to answer for; it’s unfortunate that, apparently, the corporate CEO’s and their employees who promote these drugs cannot be held responsible for the crimes they have committed and are continuing to commit against the people of this country.
Not specifically related to opioids, but startling, nonetheless (from last year)
…the pharmaceutical industry is pouring billions into new TV and print campaigns. Ad spending soared more than 60 percent in the last four years, hitting $5.2 billion last year.
…Prescription drugs accounted for nearly 17 percent of total health care spending in 2015, up from about 7 percent in the 1990s
The whole article is mind-blowing. I have kept notes on direct-to-consumer drug advertising over the years, and it is absolutely unfathomable. And remember, the US and New Zealand are the only two countries in the world that allow it.
Congressional Budget Office says #Trumpcare is a pile of sadistic anti-American shit with a side of Trump’s ass hair. #CBOSCORE
— imfabulous (@imfabulous13) May 24, 2017
#CBOscore confirms that #Trumpcare is still full of Trump’s #BrokenPromises. 23 million Americans would lose health insurance
— Senator Tim Kaine (@timkaine) May 24, 2017
re: #270 whitebeach
I try to avoid too many personal details, but I think I’ve mentioned already that I was born when Truman was president and the war was still going on.
Puts you a little ahead of me. Well, which war? World, Cold or Korean? Anyway, I am 68. So far.
re: #348 austin_blue
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re: #380 Dave In Austin
Hmmm no phone numbers. You on Twitter?
re: #372 HappyWarrior
Interestingly except for the Republican part, that’s my Dad. White, over 50, and no college education. Thankfully he hates Trump.
“Republican” really is the indicator. Pretty much every other break down shows terrible numbers for Trump this early in a first term.
re: #380 Dave In Austin
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re: #379 petesh
Puts you a little ahead of me. Well, which war? World, Cold or Korean? Anyway, I am 68. So far.
I was around for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Not in those exact localities, thankfully. But I won’t call you “Junior,” tempting as it is.
Evening Lizardim. What fresh hell awaits me tonight?
re: #381 Dave In Austin
Hmmm no phone numbers. You on Twitter?
Do something like 4 4 4 dash 3 4 dash
Think that will get by Charles.
re: #381 Dave In Austin
Hmmm no phone numbers. You on Twitter?
You still have the phone that ends in 2913?
re: #381 Dave In Austin
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Hmmm no phone numbers. You on Twitter?
re: #382 KGxvi
“Republican” really is the indicator. Pretty much every other break down shows terrible numbers for Trump this early in a first term.
Yep true that.
I have a creeping suspicion that Price isn’t pushing 12-step.
It’s likely “faith-based” is going to mean in a church, with an emphasis on prayer. I suspect this because it’s another method of funneling government cash to religious institutions, which is pretty damn high on the GOP agenda.
It’s not just about Marxist power dynamics and the means of production; this is about a post-Marxist grasping of the cultural narrative, where you render people compliant and participant in their own control. Meiji-Showa Japan, as opposed to Industrial Revolution Europe.
Cutting out secular social institutions makes people desperate and vulnerable; specifically channeling them to get help at religious institutions positions them to experience thought reform. And since they believe the soul is the only important part of a person, it’s not a mark in the “loss” column if people keep suffering or die.
I’m 48, which I’m starting to suspect is 48 years too long. :/
I’m a 53 year old child. Don’t let my hat, anachronisms and white hair fool you, I’m the youngest nurse on the floor. Some of the kids on my floor are burned out by the time they get off orientation, so I make it a point to really glide around the unit, no matter how tired or sore I am to make the atmosphere better. Everybody is under my care in many different ways.
re: #385 thedopefishlives
Evening Lizardim. What fresh hell awaits me tonight?
All the Hell has gone stale. Too late for the fresh stuff. You want some Purgatory? Picked this morning!
re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth
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But there have to be simple ways around that, with apologies to Charles. For example, write seven sentences with one spelled-out number in each. (Or maybe just spell out the numbers period.) Or come up with an anagram using the letters associated with the numbers on a standard phone keypad.
Joe Lieberman no longer being considered for FBI director. President’s team has hit the restart button on the search for a new FBI Director
— Shimon Prokupecz (@ShimonPro) May 24, 2017
Sunlight works. https://t.co/EHZRqBzFjC
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) May 24, 2017
re: #395 whitebeach
But there have to be simple ways around that, with apologies to Charles. For example, write seven sentences with one spelled-out number in each. (Or maybe just spell out the numbers period.) Or come up with an anagram using the letters associated with the numbers on a standard phone keypad.
oh, it was austin dave’s number that didn’t come through.
I had the work around for the response.
re: #399 Stanley Sea
lol
Good, I made someone laugh today. Maybe that’ll make up for the rest of the day being a colossal cock-up.
re: #393 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN
The kids (my co-workers) love my rendition of “Simon Smith and the Amazing Dancing Bear”. I type in the rhythm of the piano from the song.
re: #394 wrenchwench
All the Hell has gone stale. Too late for the fresh stuff. You want some Purgatory? Picked this morning!
Sounds heavenly.
We, the on our way to olds are going to get creamed.
Broke out the bottom line on how the AHCA will affect yer pocketbook. https://t.co/1jSiR5XxgM
— Philip Bump (@pbump) May 24, 2017
Go to the article to see better.
re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth
re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #405 Stanley Sea
We, the on our way to olds are going to get creamed.
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re: #406 Dave In Austin
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re: #406 Dave In Austin
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re: #388 austin_blue
You got it. How about Reds Back Porch. You set the time.
Reporters & WH staff never get to go home early.
Like clockwork, another juicy story from the @NYTimes… https://t.co/z6ugZRxa4F
— Charles M. Blow (@CharlesMBlow) May 24, 2017
Congrats to President Trump for easily beating his Inauguration Day crowd numbers in Brussels today pic.twitter.com/PcmlAn6MNS @POTUS #Protest
— Unite Alberta (@UniteAlbertans) May 24, 2017
bumpy night…
Viewer pic of Courtney Elementary in yadkinville #ncwx #wxii12 pic.twitter.com/vb0ZqrGy4A
— Jarred Hill (@JarredWXII) May 24, 2017
Damage from reported tornado in Yadkinville, NC — https://t.co/3yn0TlwV02
— SevereStudios (@severestudios) May 24, 2017
re: #384 whitebeach
I was around for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Not in those exact localities, thankfully. But I won’t call you “Junior,” tempting as it is.
I’m sure you were most upset, sir.
Trump: Why do you keep saying “the power of Christ compels you” and hitting me with water?
Pope: Testing a theory. pic.twitter.com/V0jnONuFsP— Crutnacker (@Crutnacker) May 24, 2017
— Pocahontas (@Rasmin2011) May 24, 2017
I cannot wait until the Georgia election is over. I get no less than a dozen emails a day asking for money for Ossoff. Every single day. Day. After. Day.
and I’m sorry…Melania and Ivanka look like they are attending a vampire wedding…
re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth
That’s Monsignor Colbert to you.
“I don’t feed my husband anything,” Melania replied.
“He dines on the pain of others, salted by tears of children.”https://t.co/JTsSkLlZA7— Steve Marmel (@Marmel) May 24, 2017
re: #417 MsJ
I cannot wait until the Georgia election is over. I get no less than a dozen emails a day asking for money for Ossoff. Every single day. Day. After. Day.
Me too—and they’re all DOOM!! GLOOM!! HORRORS!! DCCC-type asks.
re: #422 BeachDem
Me too—and they’re all DOOM!! GLOOM!! HORRORS!! DCCC-type asks.
And here’s up by 7%. The same DOOM! PANICING! bullshit we every election.
That had me as tired as Trump.
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NEW CBO score on AHCA
-23 million more uninsured
-Saves $119 billion
-$834 billion Medicaid cuts
-$992 bn tax cuthttps://t.co/VeFPeLffEy— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) May 24, 2017
The @freedomcaucus makes 3 new demands on the debt limit:
1) No clean increase
2) Lifted by August recess
3) Paired with spending cuts— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) May 24, 2017
When the champion for the poor meets a guy who will strip healthcare from 23 million people. #CBOscore pic.twitter.com/LOpeXgIWlr
— Eugene Gu, MD (@eugenegu) May 24, 2017
sorry, I will not apologize for memes like this.
re: #396 Stanley Sea
With Trump, there’s always someone worse.
really…
Actually blaming the way a woman dresses for the death of 22 people including children, fuck the Daily Mail man pic.twitter.com/4aDXlY4lRN
— Ben (@benfharries) May 24, 2017
“Somebody blew up the children attending your concert, Ma’am? Well, what were you wearing?” Dear God humans are so awful. https://t.co/TMcQyPnx29
— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) May 24, 2017
re: #415 petesh
I’m sure you were most upset, sir.
I’m told that I was, but it had something to do with milk.
BTW, the “sir” is beautifully played.
re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth
and I’m sorry…Melania and Ivanka look like they are attending a vampire wedding…
The only reason Ivanka was there that I can think of is she was checking out the Big Three religions to see which one would give her the best deal if she converted.
Mulvaney waxes poignant about standard of living. “Does that include our kids?” @RepBarbaraLee: “You have a 13% cut to Dept of Education.” pic.twitter.com/D7jAjeCXPr
— Tommy Christopher (@tommyxtopher) May 24, 2017
re: #431 Backwoods_Sleuth
really…
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That seems like a very clunky way of saying “they hate us for our freedoms.” I mean, if I squint hard enough, and tilt my head just so, I can kind of see what they meant. I think?
re: #428 KGxvi
I keep thinking that I need to spring for a digital subscription to at least one paper. Haven’t pulled the trigger yet, but it’s tempting. Doesn’t seem that expensive, all things considered.
On Facebook, the WaPo was offering a 50% discount to new subscribers. I didn’t see the notice until after I’d sprung for a full price subscription. I’d definitely go with the WaPo over the NYT. It is expensive but your also supporting the cost of their reporting.
re: #431 Backwoods_Sleuth
@benfharries
That narrows the suspects down to Islamic fundamentalists, conservative Christians and Daily Mail “journalists”— gocart mozart (@HarryTuttle11) May 24, 2017
re: #35 Dave In Austin
So last thread, lizard ages were brought up. Just by conversation it seems that a lot of us are contemporaries.
I’m 62 and getting more liberal by the day.
Yous?
I’m (a quite youthful!!!!!) 58-years-old…. TODAY!!!!!!!
re: #436 stpaulbear
On Facebook, the WaPo was offering a 50% discount to new subscribers. I didn’t see the notice until after I’d sprung for a full price subscription. I’d definitely go with the WaPo over the NYT. It is expensive but your also supporting the cost of their reporting.
They both have deals right now, looks like the digital edition runs about $100 for the year. Which isn’t terrible, I suppose. I mean, that’s basically in line with the quarter a day I paid in high school/college for the LA Times (who have a deal for about a dollar a week on digital).
re: #434 Backwoods_Sleuth
Christ, Mulvaney is a dick. An obvious, 100% dick.
re: #429 stpaulbear
Are you willing to delete your cookies? That’ll start your count over.
Specifically, just the cookies that mention the Times if you don’t want to delete them all.
re: #442 stpaulbear
Christ, Mulvaney is a dick. An obvious, 100% dick.
Freedumb Caucus members are like that.
re: #431 Backwoods_Sleuth
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So I guess if somebody attacks the White House it will be Ivanka’s fault?
re: #442 stpaulbear
Christ, Mulvaney is a dick. An obvious, 100% dick.
How can someone who is so dickless also be such a giganormous dick at the same time? He’s a contradiction in derogatory terms…
Does the CBO factor in the ripple effects of 23 million uninsured such as the impacts of increased medical bankruptcies. Otherwise, the (already paltry) $119 billion savings over 10 years is a mirage.
re: #431 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Not much has changed since the days when they were rooting for fucking Mosley.
re: #436 stpaulbear
On Facebook, the WaPo was offering a 50% discount to new subscribers. I didn’t see the notice until after I’d sprung for a full price subscription. I’d definitely go with the WaPo over the NYT. It is expensive but your also supporting the cost of their reporting.
Amazon had a free intro subscription to WaPo—not sure if it was just for Prime members or not.
re: #445 BeachDem
So I guess if somebody attacks the White House it will be Ivanka’s fault?
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//and disgust at how horrible humans can be.
Oh my dog, that’s horrible.
re: #447 Mike Lamb
Does the CBO factor in the ripple effects of 23 million uninsured such as the impacts of increased medical bankruptcies. Otherwise, the (already paltry) $119 billion savings over 10 years is a mirage.
Not to mention lost income (and tax revenue) for missing work, and other second/third hand effects on the economy that could easily cut into those “savings” through lack economic activity.
re: #445 BeachDem
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Plenty of scantily clad Melania photos too. Really these people are fucking ghouls.
re: #442 stpaulbear
Christ, Mulvaney is a dick. An obvious, 100% dick.
And Mark Sanford is feeling his oats (he has actually been pretty sane and outspoken lately. Came out strong against offshore drilling and some other stuff—I’m sure it won’t last, but…)
The most withering criticism came from Representative Mark Sanford, who served in the South Carolina delegation with Mulvaney but rejected the plan’s rosy economic scenarios. “This budget presumes a Goldilocks economy,” Sanford said. “It assumes that the stars perfectly align with regard to economic drivers. Can you guess the last time we had an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent, growth of 3 percent and inflation held at 2 percent?” Sanford informed Mulvaney that it had never happened. He said of 3 percent growth: “It’s frankly not only a myth. It’s a lie.”
re: #417 MsJ
I cannot wait until the Georgia election is over. I get no less than a dozen emails a day asking for money for Ossoff. Every single day. Day. After. Day.
Me too!! Me too!!
re: #453 HappyWarrior
Plenty of scantily clad Melania photos too. Really these people are fucking ghouls.
Scantily clad? Melania is out and out naked.
re: #411 Stanley Sea
Wow. Hillary (and the American voters) really got fucked over six ways to Sunday.
Unbelievable.
re: #456 MsJ
Scantily clad? Melania is out and out naked.
I had honestly forgotten. As I said, it’s typocal right wing hypocrisy.
re: #457 blueraven
Wow. Hillary (and the American voters) really got fucked over six ways to Sunday.
Unbelievable.
We really did. It’s not all Trump’s fault though. A lot of it lies on his idiotic base that eats up his bullshit for breakfast and then asks for seconds.
re: #410 Dave In Austin
You got it. How about Reds Back Porch. You set the time.
On South Lamar by Brodie Oaks? That’s cool. See you noonish. I’ll listen for the hog.
re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth
Today is the BackwoodsSleuth couples’ 14th wedding anniversary (this despite knowing each other since 1965).
One month from today I shall be 65 years old.
MrBws is still a pupper since he doesn’t achieve Medicare status until February 2020. (Fun fact: IRL his nickname is PupEDawg)
Congratulations, and good wishes for a lot more years to come!
Democrats should print this graph and mail it to every single persuadable voter in America. pic.twitter.com/ClXKQbY6BN
— Matt McDermott (@mattmfm) May 24, 2017
re: #456 MsJ
Scantily clad? Melania is out and out naked.
Yeah—that was too easy anyway. But as Ivanka is held up as the “classy” one, that cover seemed appropriate—there are others as well, but I’m sick of looking at her insipid face.
re: #428 KGxvi
I keep thinking that I need to spring for a digital subscription to at least one paper. Haven’t pulled the trigger yet, but it’s tempting. Doesn’t seem that expensive, all things considered.
I pay for WaPo & I’m glad.
LGF & Wonkette also.
Going to join TPM soon.
It is not much & we need to support these places, especially in this time.
re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth
and I’m sorry…Melania and Ivanka look like they are attending a vampire wedding…
Someone told them it was Goth Week at the Vatican.
re: #277 A wild WITHAK appeared!
I kinda figured that; never shopped there myself, and with those prices, likely never will…
Oh … but … the breakfast buffet, for only $8.49 a pound here in Ann Arbor, contains thick sliced, quality, well cooked, crispy bacon. A product worth far, far more than the price charged. It’s one way you can visit Whole Paycheck and come out thinking you are definitely ahead. Be sure to go right when they open which, here, is eight am.
Before I retired I would buy a box full and be the Bacon Fairy all morning at work.
re: #465 makeitstop
Someone told them it was Goth Week at the Vatican.
and it was so pitiful an attempt at being Goth…
re: #432 whitebeach
I well remember (fairly well; at least vaguely, no matter how I try to suppress it) when young women started to call me “sir.” On the bright side, they now feel so safe I can sometimes converse with them.
re: #414 Backwoods_Sleuth
bumpy night…
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I wonder if that came from the stripe of garbage weather that passed through the Low Country last night. My little island was under tornado warning (after getting a real tornado earlier in the evening). I spent half an hour waiting out the warning in the downstairs bathroom with an annoyed cat.
I think this crap followed me from Texas… It’s my fault, folks.
Sorry, sorry, only meant to blow up that one thing, sorry
re: #380 Dave In Austin
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re: #331 Eclectic Cyborg
Congratulations. My wife and I are celebrating 9 years today. :)
Congrats to you folks too!
re: #467 makeitstop
Happy Birthday to you!
I’m giving myself until 7pm, then I crack open the champagne!
re: #474 Maddies Mom
I’m giving myself until 7pm, then I crack open the champagne!
It’s 7pm somewhere! ;)
re: #462 Archangelus
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That graphic actually underplays just how bad things are with the GOP plans.
For one thing, the ACA rate after 2016 would have been even lower had the GOP expanded Medicaid instead of fighting it all the way to the Supreme Court and refusing to expand it at the state level. States like TX that refused to expand are states with the highest uninsured rates in the nation.
In other words, the spread would be even greater than it already is because the GOP has actively raised the uninsured rates under the ACA. They want to see the rate rise far higher than it was before the ACA. At the same time, everyone will pay more through higher premiums and costs due to the uncertainties the GOP is inserting into the marketplace, and the GOP simply doesn’t care because it delivers an investment tax cut for the high income earners - aka millionaires like Trump.
re: #358 BeachDem
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Late comment on the age thingie.
61.
18-year-old son WHO GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL TODAY (huge sigh of relief) was appalled, at the age of eight, when I explained to him that in my childhood days we didn’t have computers on our desks, DVDs, VCRs, cell phones, digital cameras, etc. We had to wait till the TV station showed a re-run to watch a particular show or movie. When you took a picture you had to get the film developed to see how it came out. Our phones were hooked into the wall. There was this thing called long-distance rates. There was no such thing as a video game (gasps of horror). There was no such thing as ‘the internet’ (stark incredulity)
“What did you do all day,” asked the little smartass, “play in the cave mud?”