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The Major  May 26, 2017 • 8:33:50pm
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Kragar  May 26, 2017 • 8:34:25pm
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HappyWarrior  May 26, 2017 • 8:37:31pm

re: #2 Kragar

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Uh huh.

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2017 • 8:38:03pm

re: #2 Kragar

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Jared’s lawyers: “Mr. Kushner can’t remember that conversation or its contents.”

3 anonymous folks: “Oh yeah, we totally remember that conversation and it was harmless.”

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EPR-radar  May 26, 2017 • 8:38:07pm

re: #2 Kragar

Obvious cover story is obvious.

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2017 • 8:42:14pm

DON’T WORRY, JARED. IS NO PROBLEM. WE TAKE CARE OF BUILDING. NOW, YOU MUST INFILTRATE THE DONALD AND GIVE US GOOD KOMPROMAT.

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2017 • 8:44:33pm

Is that ‘red’ color a good color to convey a Russian accent?

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Stanley Sea  May 26, 2017 • 8:47:04pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 26, 2017 • 8:47:12pm
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KGxvi  May 26, 2017 • 8:49:39pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

Is that ‘red’ color a good color to convey a Russian accent?

IS GOOD? DAH, IS GOOD

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 8:50:23pm
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Jay C  May 26, 2017 • 8:50:42pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

Is that ‘red’ color a good color to convey a Russian accent?

Da, tovarishch!

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HappyWarrior  May 26, 2017 • 8:50:43pm

What gets me with all this is far lefties who still contend that Clinton was just as corrupit as Trump. Uh no.

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 8:53:11pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

What gets me with all this is far lefties who still contend that Clinton was just as corrupit as Trump. Uh no.

Some like my cousin in Michigan who voted for Stein have simply been brainwashed by thirty years of Republican smear campaigns on the Clintons.

Others, well, the horseshoe of derp.

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2017 • 8:54:23pm
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HappyWarrior  May 26, 2017 • 8:59:24pm

re: #14 Anymouse

Some like my cousin in Michigan who voted for Stein have simply been brainwashed by thirty years of Republican smear campaigns on the Clintons.

Others, well, the horseshoe of derp.

My brothers too.

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Stanley Sea  May 26, 2017 • 8:59:27pm
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Interesting Times  May 26, 2017 • 8:59:36pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

What gets me with all this is far lefties who still contend that Clinton was just as corrupit as Trump. Uh no.

The BoB’ers I occasionally check in on insist that HRC would’ve started WWIII with Russia because of wanting a no-fly zone in Syria. That’s the reason they always fall back on whenever you point out everything horrible about trump :/

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HappyWarrior  May 26, 2017 • 9:02:21pm

re: #18 Interesting Times

The BoB’ers I occasionally check in on insist that HRC would’ve started WWIII with Russia because of wanting a no-fly zone in Syria. That’s the reason they always fall back on whenever you point out everything horrible about trump :/

Or TPP.

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HappyWarrior  May 26, 2017 • 9:05:47pm

Their raging on Clinton while loving Gabbard pisses me off too. Do they NOT know that Gabbard attacked the Obama administration for the Iran deal?

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HappyWarrior  May 26, 2017 • 9:06:03pm

I mean goddamn if you’re going to hate hawkishness fine but be fuckign consistent.

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BeachDem  May 26, 2017 • 9:07:31pm

re: #2 Kragar

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Hint—rhymes with Aggie Baberman

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 26, 2017 • 9:09:24pm
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JordanRules  May 26, 2017 • 9:13:09pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

Works very well comrade!

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mmmirele  May 26, 2017 • 9:14:49pm

re: #10 KGxvi

IS GOOD? DAH, IS GOOD

I wish we had a pseudo-Russian font, as opposed to “wingnut.” Although, considering how many of the wingnuts are cozying up to Putin, maybe that’s the way it should be.

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HappyWarrior  May 26, 2017 • 9:17:19pm

re: #25 mmmirele

I wish we had a pseudo-Russian font, as opposed to “wingnut.” Although, considering how many of the wingnuts are cozying up to Putin, maybe that’s the way it should be.

Yeah a quasi Cyrillic font would be neat. I’d love to see that with Trump’s words.

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2017 • 9:22:05pm

Rule of thumb: If you are the suspect of an investigation, “it’s no big deal” is not the correct answer to any suspicious behavior.

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Dave In Austin  May 26, 2017 • 9:24:10pm
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teleskiguy  May 26, 2017 • 9:25:22pm

Took my dog to the river this afternoon so he could cool off. Now he’s one smelly fuckin’ German Shepherd. Pee-Eeww!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 26, 2017 • 9:26:36pm

This is perfect:

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austin_blue  May 26, 2017 • 9:26:37pm

Terribly disturbing news from Portland. Just jumping back on the board, but oh, fuck, on the eve of Ramadan, two dead for defending Muslim women?

We really need a counterforce to these racists.

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Dave In Austin  May 26, 2017 • 9:26:58pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

Took my dog to the river this afternoon so he could cool off. Now he’s one smelly fuckin’ German Shepherd. Pee-Eeww!

Has his Winter coat come out yet?

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goddamnedfrank  May 26, 2017 • 9:29:20pm
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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 9:31:53pm

I’m guessing John Fugelsang could make an issue out of this particular threat if he wanted. (Another reminder why I don’t want to be on Twitter, Jack Dorsey.)

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Dave In Austin  May 26, 2017 • 9:31:54pm

Ahhhh Hello?

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JordanRules  May 26, 2017 • 9:36:02pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

Stinky doggos, still good doggos!

Bet y’all had fun.

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2017 • 9:37:04pm

re: #32 Dave In Austin

Has his Winter coat come out yet?

He got a big haircut about two weeks ago at the groomers.

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scottslemmons  May 26, 2017 • 9:37:24pm

re: #31 austin_blue

Terribly disturbing news from Portland. Just jumping back on the board, but oh, fuck, on the eve of Ramadan, two dead for defending Muslim women.

We really need a counterforce to these racists.

Fuck the fucking Trumpers. >:(

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 9:44:16pm
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austin_blue  May 26, 2017 • 9:50:17pm

re: #31 austin_blue

Terribly disturbing news from Portland. Just jumping back on the board, but oh, fuck, on the eve of Ramadan, two dead for defending Muslim women?

We really need a counterforce to these racists.

What the holy fuck is going on in this country?

This is, at a fundamental level, anarchy, when the rule of law has become this tenuous.

Resist? Hell! Time to fight back!

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Dave In Austin  May 26, 2017 • 9:51:33pm
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BeachDem  May 26, 2017 • 9:51:35pm

Breaking news you guys!!

CNN was able to find that elusive person—a Trump voter from a rustbelt state who is now disillusioned!! Wow—I believe “rare as hen’s teeth” is the proper phrase. (Is there a single fucking Trump voter who has NOT yet been interviewed?)

Wesley Easterling noted that Trump had a kind of “charisma about him, something different.” The county he lives in typically goes for Democrats but in 2016 it went for Trump, despite having one of the highest poverty rates in the country.

Easterling is on food stamps and Medicaid and he believed Trump when the then-candidate swore he’d never touch Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Trump lied and Easterling and his family are fearful they’re going to lose critical benefits they need to stay afloat.

“I mean, I felt just like I was — just like he played me for a fool,” he said with a look of sadness in his eyes. “I mean, I kind of took it personal.”

rawstory.com

Oh, well as long as the yam had charisma, I can see why you “kind of took it personal.”
Spit.

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Joe Bacon  May 26, 2017 • 9:52:49pm

re: #28 Dave In Austin

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I remember back in the 70s when I was in college the Libertarians and left wingers were up in arms against the Trilateral Commission and they accused Carter of being David Rockefeller’s puppet. Penthouse ran articles about the Trilaterals and they endlessly stuck shivs into Brzezinski saying he was the Rockefeller’s case officer for Carter…

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jaunte  May 26, 2017 • 9:53:11pm
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jaunte  May 26, 2017 • 9:53:34pm
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Dave In Austin  May 26, 2017 • 9:55:44pm

re: #43 Joe Bacon

BernieBros of the 70’s.

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2017 • 9:56:27pm

re: #42 BeachDem

A paragraph from Hillary’s new profile in New York Magazine:

Trump got plenty of negative coverage in the press as well, but, during the campaign at least, the negative stories didn’t seem to stick to him with the same adhesion. And even now, as investigations of his administration’s connections to Russia splash across front pages, the Times has launched a new feature, a weekly call to readers to “Say something nice” about him. I ask Clinton if she’s seen it. “I did!” she says with a wide smile, taking a beat. “I never saw them do that for me.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 26, 2017 • 9:56:38pm

re: #45 jaunte

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But hey, Hillary got paid to give speeches, so that’s just the same.
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Joe Bacon  May 26, 2017 • 9:56:51pm

re: #46 Dave In Austin

BernieBros of the 70’s.

The McGovernites who eventually went into the Anderson or Barry Commoner camps in 1980 to help Pruneface Reagan get in…

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 9:57:53pm

Breaking: Jared Kushner to invoke Chewbacca Defence:

The Chewbacca Defense 2

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Joe Bacon  May 26, 2017 • 9:59:04pm

re: #42 BeachDem

Breaking news you guys!!

CNN was able to find that elusive person—a Trump voter from a rustbelt state who is now disillusioned!! Wow—I believe “rare as hen’s teeth” is the proper phrase. (Is there a single fucking Trump voter who has NOT yet been interviewed?)

rawstory.com

Oh, well as long as the yam had charisma, I can see why you “kind of took it personal.”
Spit.

It sure would be nice if CNN found a couple Hillary voters to talk to…

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BeachDem  May 26, 2017 • 10:00:28pm

re: #51 Joe Bacon

It sure would be nice if CNN found a couple Hillary voters to talk to…

If you read all the bazillion tales of yam voters and their laments, you’d start believing that Hillary only got about 17 votes nationwide.

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 10:00:31pm

re: #51 Joe Bacon

It sure would be nice if CNN found a couple Hillary voters to talk to…

I’d be willing to talk to CNN … Hillary Clinton voter in deep red Trump voting area … nah, who am I kidding?

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Joe Bacon  May 26, 2017 • 10:00:37pm

re: #42 BeachDem

Meanwhile, let’s take a peep at the latest batch of suckers who realized Trump KKKoned them!

areyousorryyet.com

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2017 • 10:08:20pm

I mentioned the astonishingly low rate of firearms deaths in Japan last night (exactly one person was shot to death in all of 2015 in Japan).

Very interesting article I failed to share due to a right quick bout of absent mindedness.

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 10:16:53pm
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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 10:20:00pm

Yup.

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austin_blue  May 26, 2017 • 10:22:12pm

Terror attack before Ramadan.

Kind of a “meh” response by the Board

CL would be appalled. So am I.

I miss that woman.

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Kragar  May 26, 2017 • 10:24:45pm
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retired cynic  May 26, 2017 • 10:25:40pm

re: #58 austin_blue

Terror attack before Ramadan.

Kind of a “meh” response by the the Board

CL would be appalled. So am I.

I miss that woman.

I think we were all appalled. And miss CL.

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 10:25:42pm

re: #58 austin_blue

Terror attack before Ramadan.

Kind of a “meh” response by the the Board

CL would be appalled. So am I.

I miss that woman.

I didn’t ignore it, I mentioned it in the last thread; I thought the whole thing was repulsive that some wingnut killed two men and injured a third because they stood up to said wingnut’s bullying.

I then mentioned that such behaviour from wingnuts would not deter me from standing up to such people if it happened in my presence.

The attack wasn’t even on the women (though the initial slurs were). The attack was on the men who stood up to defend them.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 26, 2017 • 10:27:38pm

re: #58 austin_blue

Terror attack before Ramadan.

Kind of a “meh” response by the the Board

CL would be appalled. So am I.

I miss that woman.

It was discussed downstairs.

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JordanRules  May 26, 2017 • 10:27:59pm

re: #58 austin_blue

I hope it’s clear, living as a black woman in this country, what my position is every damn day.

Had a co-worker say some foul racist shit just today. Sigh.

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 10:29:32pm

re: #63 JordanRules

I hope it’s clear, living as a black woman in this country, what my position is every damn day.

Had a co-worker say some foul racist shit just today. Sigh.

I wish I had the power to make that sort of thing go away. I’m sorry you had to put up with that. All I can do is call it out if I hear or read it.

Today’s guinea pig for Aminah:

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JordanRules  May 26, 2017 • 10:33:37pm

re: #64 Anymouse

Yay guinea!!!

I’ve been seeking out comedy to balance the other stuff lately. It helps some.
I also love coming here and being reminded there are so many smart, caring people in the world - and they should be in charge!

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The Dude Abides  May 26, 2017 • 10:35:25pm

Brought over from last thread, in response to teleskiguy:

My parents took me and my little bro on many vacations within the USA when we were kids. Granted, some of the parks below only had National Monument status at the time we visited them:

Rocky Mountain
Grand Teton
Black Canyon of The Gunnison
Zion
Great Basin
Mesa Verde
Yellowstone
Crater Lake
Olympic
Carlsbad Caverns
Guadalupe Mountains
Grand Canyon
Petrified Forest
Saguaro
Channel Islands
Death Valley
Joshua Tree
Kings Canyon
Lassen Volcanic
Redwood
Sequoia
Yosemite
Haleakala
Hawaii Volcanoes
Bryce Canyon
Capitol Reef
Zion
Hot Springs
Shenandoah

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austin_blue  May 26, 2017 • 10:37:46pm

Night all. I’m not a happy camper, obviously.

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retired cynic  May 26, 2017 • 10:38:15pm

re: #67 austin_blue

Night all. I’m not a happy camper, obviously.

Not a whole lot to be happy about…

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2017 • 10:39:41pm

Warning - Venting Ahead:

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wheat-dogg  May 26, 2017 • 10:40:05pm

re: #64 Anymouse

I wish I had the power to make that sort of thing go away. I’m sorry you had to put up with that. All I can do is call it out if I hear or read it.

Today’s guinea pig for Aminah:

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Looks like Sia’s wig.

Sia Carpool Karaoke

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2017 • 10:41:39pm

When you’ve moved from denial to excuse-making, you’re in deep shit. When you’re no longer challenging the validity of a bombshell news report but instead trying to argue that the target is a “dumb kid,” you’re pretty much admitting that a criminal act has been committed.

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JordanRules  May 26, 2017 • 10:44:19pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

And that naieve excuse is so damn offensive!

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2017 • 10:45:54pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2017 • 10:47:33pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

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JordanRules  May 26, 2017 • 10:47:37pm

Hmmmmmm….I wonder if Bannon is secretly giggling about Jared’s situation?

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 26, 2017 • 10:49:15pm

My first venture with the sous vide cooker was hard boiled duck eggs. Turned out great. Just a little luxurious because, fuck it, why not, but also easy to do because no need for a sealed bag. Next up, trying for soft-boiled and onsen tamago (the other benefit—one carton, twelve chances to test out what you’re doing). I suck at eggs that aren’t scrambled, so this is a bigger hatch in my “win” column than it might be for anyone else.

(This will end with me trying to sous vide an omelet, probably)

Haven’t test fired the Instant Pot because I made a giant mess of beans just before getting it. But…soon.

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2017 • 10:57:18pm

If Jared’s lawyers go before a judge and try to argue that he was too dumb to know that requesting a special hotline to the Kremlin through Russian diplomatic channels was illegal, the judge is likely to throw the lawyer in a cell next to his client’s.

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 10:57:30pm

re: #70 wheat-dogg

Looks like Sia’s wig.

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2017 • 10:58:33pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick’s back on U.S. soil Sunday, correct?

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goddamnedfrank  May 26, 2017 • 11:02:32pm

re: #75 JordanRules

Hmmmmmm….I wonder if Bannon is secretly giggling about Jared’s situation?

Who do you think sent the letter to the WaPo reporter that kicked this whole thing off?

If not Bannon then good odds it was Christie.

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2017 • 11:06:50pm

re: #80 goddamnedfrank

Who do you think sent the letter to the WaPo reporter that kicked this whole thing off?

If not Bannon then good odds it was Christie.

Now that’s some political intrigue and treachery! Sounds too good to be true, but these days? Fuck. Anything’s possible.

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2017 • 11:07:18pm

re: #77 Targetpractice

If Jared’s lawyers go before a judge and try to argue that he was too dumb to know that requesting a special hotline to the Kremlin through Russian diplomatic channels was illegal, the judge is likely to throw the lawyer in a cell next to his client’s.

Of course, Jared can also fall back on the “I don’t recall that” defense.

Clearly, the Russian intel services have developed a functioning neuralyzer, which is actually kinda impressive.

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JordanRules  May 26, 2017 • 11:08:44pm

re: #80 goddamnedfrank

Was Christie still in at that point and with enough access? Might fit in with why he’s all “yeah I sooooo told them Flynn was bad” now. I just thought he was a burger guy in this part of the timeline.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 26, 2017 • 11:09:05pm

re: #80 goddamnedfrank

I’m going for the outside bet of “Donald wants more time with his daughter.”

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2017 • 11:09:42pm

Food for thought: The rumor the other week was that Jared was one of the biggest votes in calling for Comey’s firing.

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William Lewis  May 26, 2017 • 11:10:16pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

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JordanRules  May 26, 2017 • 11:10:49pm

Folks need their security clearance pulled now. This shit is ridiculous.

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 11:11:32pm

re: #87 JordanRules

Folks need their security clearance pulled now. This shit is ridiculous.

Who’s gonna pull ‘em?

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 11:13:46pm

Russia even seeping into our abbreviations… .
IOKIYAЯ

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Teukka  May 26, 2017 • 11:14:08pm

re: #87 JordanRules

Folks need their security clearance pulled now. This shit is ridiculous.

re: #88 Anymouse

Who’s gonna pull ‘em?

Guys… In the sacred words of Bachman Turner Overdrive: B-B-Baby You Ain’t Seen N-N-Nuthing Yet!

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2017 • 11:16:03pm

re: #86 William Lewis

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JordanRules  May 26, 2017 • 11:16:41pm

re: #88 Anymouse

My imagination?

Oy what I cluster we live in.

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goddamnedfrank  May 26, 2017 • 11:17:06pm

re: #81 teleskiguy

Now that’s some political intrigue and treachery! Sounds too good to be true, but these days? Fuck. Anything’s possible.

re: #83 JordanRules

Was Christie still in at that point and with enough access? Might fit in with why he’s all “yeah I sooooo told them Flynn was bad” now. I just thought he was a burger guy in this part of the timeline.

Honestly I’m just talkin’ shit over here but it’s funny because you can actually imagine it being true.

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danarchy  May 26, 2017 • 11:19:01pm

re: #77 Targetpractice

If Jared’s lawyers go before a judge and try to argue that he was too dumb to know that requesting a special hotline to the Kremlin through Russian diplomatic channels was illegal, the judge is likely to throw the lawyer in a cell next to his client’s.

Alan Dershowitz was on TV earlier saying even if everything in that report is true there is still no criminal conduct there, there is no statute you can point to and say they violated this. Someone brought up the Logan Act and he basically said a law that hasn’t been enforced in over a 100 years can not be enforced due to desuetude. IANAL, I have no idea myself.

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 11:20:22pm

And in a couple days, what is looking more and more like a traitor, is going to be laying a wreath on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington.

This whole debacle sickens me.

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2017 • 11:20:28pm

The hilarity here is knowing that the entire cast of characters who could have been privy to these talks hate each other so much, we’re actually finding ourselves guessing who has the biggest axe to grind.

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 11:21:45pm

re: #94 danarchy

Alan Dershowitz was on TV earlier saying even if everything in that report is true there is still no criminal conduct there, there is no statute you can point to and say they violated this. Someone brought up the Logan Act and he basically said a law that hasn’t been enforced in over a 100 years can not be enforced due to desuetude. IANAL, I have no idea myself.

Ask the Rosenbergs how violating the Espionage Act went for them. Or Jonathan Pollard.

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JordanRules  May 26, 2017 • 11:22:20pm
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teleskiguy  May 26, 2017 • 11:22:50pm
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danarchy  May 26, 2017 • 11:24:47pm

re: #97 Anymouse

Ask the Rosenbergs how violating the Espionage Act went for them. Or Jonathan Pollard.

Like I said, not a lawyer, but doesn’t espionage require actual proof that secrets were shared?

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 11:27:10pm

re: #100 danarchy

Like I said, not a lawyer, but doesn’t espionage require actual proof that secrets were shared?

Not exactly.

It made it a crime:

To convey information with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the armed forces of the United States or to promote the success of its enemies. This was punishable by death or by imprisonment for not more than 30 years or both.
To convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States or to promote the success of its enemies when the United States is at war, to cause or attempt to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or to willfully obstruct the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States. This was punishable by a maximum fine of $10,000 or by imprisonment for not more than 20 years or both.

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wheat-dogg  May 26, 2017 • 11:34:25pm

Anybody here used a credit card at Chipotle recently? If so, your card info may have been stolen through a hacked point-of-sale system.

theverge.com

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2017 • 11:36:35pm

re: #94 danarchy

Alan Dershowitz was on TV earlier saying even if everything in that report is true there is still no criminal conduct there, there is no statute you can point to and say they violated this. Someone brought up the Logan Act and he basically said a law that hasn’t been enforced in over a 100 years can not be enforced due to desuetude. IANAL, I have no idea myself.

Let me guess, Dershowitz argued that since the report is that the backdoor channel was never created, then no crime was actually committed. Perhaps Alan should look up “solicitation,” as under criminal law the solicited party does not have to carry through with the act for there to be a crime. Just soliciting an illegal act is itself a crime.

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 11:36:40pm

Since that time, the 1917 Espionage Act has been amended various times to include other things. Parts of it are incorporated into the UCMJ’s (article 134) prohibition for espionage (Michel Flynn should know that, and the penalty in the UCMJ is death or as a courts-martial may direct).

More recent Espionage Act cases have involved trying to establish contacts as well as disseminating information in an unauthorised way.

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danarchy  May 26, 2017 • 11:36:56pm

re: #101 Anymouse

Not exactly.

It made it a crime:

To convey information with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the armed forces of the United States or to promote the success of its enemies. This was punishable by death or by imprisonment for not more than 30 years or both.
To convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States or to promote the success of its enemies when the United States is at war, to cause or attempt to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or to willfully obstruct the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States. This was punishable by a maximum fine of $10,000 or by imprisonment for not more than 20 years or both.

OK, that doesn’t seem to describe the facts we have at this point at all. I have no doubt more info may follow, but I don’t see where simply asking for the secure line of communication does any of that.

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 11:38:05pm

re: #105 danarchy

OK, that doesn’t seem to describe the facts we have at this point at all. I have no doubt more info may follow, but I don’t see where simply asking for the secure line of communication does any of that.

Solicitation to commit espionage is covered under the Espionage Act.

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 11:41:45pm

Note also that the New York Times, the Washington Post, and Reuters, each with different contacts, are reporting that it was intercepts of Russian communications that exposed this. That would be the very Russian communications that Mr. Kushner is alleged to have wanted to set up.

All of this a couple months before Donald Trump took the oath of office.

I’m thinking here that Gen. Flynn might be sweating bullets. (Have they pulled that guy’s passport yet?) The military can get him outside of anything the un-reconstructed Attorney General wants to do.

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Anymouse  May 26, 2017 • 11:44:36pm

There is also the crime of misprison of treason (knowing a crime of treason is about to be committed and failing to report it).

Courtesy of Wikipedia:

In the United States, misprision of treason is a federal offense, committed where someone who has knowledge of the commission of any treason against the United States, conceals such knowledge and does not inform the President, a federal judge or State Governor or State judge (18 U.S.C. § 2382). It is punishable by a fine and up to seven years in federal prison. It is also a crime punishable under the criminal laws of many states.

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Teukka  May 27, 2017 • 12:01:18am

re: #108 Anymouse

There is also the crime of misprison of treason (knowing a crime of treason is about to be committed and failing to report it).

Courtesy of Wikipedia:

In the United States, misprision of treason is a federal offense, committed where someone who has knowledge of the commission of any treason against the United States, conceals such knowledge and does not inform the President, a federal judge or State Governor or State judge (18 U.S.C. § 2382). It is punishable by a fine and up to seven years in federal prison. It is also a crime punishable under the criminal laws of many states.

Wait… So you mean that anyone on the Hill, in the White House or in the GOP who knew but did not immediately go to the feds is eligble for a 7 year vacation up river?

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wheat-dogg  May 27, 2017 • 12:03:36am

re: #109 Teukka

Wait… So you mean that anyone on the Hill, in the White House or in the GOP who knew but did not immediately go to the feds is eligble for a 7 year vacation up river?

Pretty much, but it requires an Attorney General or someone else in federal law enforcement to file charges.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2017 • 12:04:02am
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Targetpractice  May 27, 2017 • 12:05:58am

re: #111 teleskiguy

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 12:06:04am

re: #110 wheat-dogg

Pretty much, but it requires an Attorney General or someone else in federal law enforcement to file charges.

There is the case from several women in Massachusetts against the United States arguing the Federal government failed to protect the state from foreign invasion (subversion of the election), which the Supreme Court has already agreed to hear.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 12:08:14am

My wife just opined that maybe Cliven Bundy is right and the highest authority should be a county sheriff. /s

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wheat-dogg  May 27, 2017 • 12:14:09am

re: #113 Anymouse

There is the case from several women in Massachusetts against the United States arguing the Federal government failed to protect the state from foreign invasion (subversion of the election), which the Supreme Court has already agreed to hear.

I hope they have superb legal representation, because the justices could make mincemeat out of their arguments. It’s an encouraging, however, that the Court agreed to hear the case.

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Teukka  May 27, 2017 • 12:23:45am

re: #110 wheat-dogg

Pretty much, but it requires an Attorney General or someone else in federal law enforcement to file charges.

That could be arranged…
*ducks*

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 12:26:06am

re: #115 wheat-dogg

I hope they have superb legal representation, because the justices could make mincemeat out of their arguments. It’s an encouraging, however, that the Court agreed to hear the case.

It would be a very high bar to clear before the Court. The Supreme Court would have to consider such things as any ol’ spurious claim that “ferners hijacked the election” and other such things.

We’ll have to see: The whole thing might be moot by the time the Supreme Court gets round to it.

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teleskiguy  May 27, 2017 • 12:32:03am

re: #66 The Dude Abides

Rad parents. Fuckin’ aye!

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 12:41:35am
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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 12:49:00am

If Donald Trump makes his speech at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier about his Electoral College win, I’ll be flipping tables and setting them on fire here.

Last year our town invited a recently-retired commander from the US Navy to give a speech; he made his speech about how liberals are trying to force transgender bathrooms down everyone’s throats.

As a village trustee, I got up, turned my back in the middle of the speech, and walked to the farthest corner of the cemetery (where people from the Spanish-American War are buried).

At the next village board meeting I gave a different speech, one suitable for Memorial Day and those buried in the village cemetery. I called on the Cemetery Board never to invite that guy back.

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wheat-dogg  May 27, 2017 • 12:53:25am

re: #120 Anymouse

If Donald Trump makes his speech at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier about his Electoral College win, I’ll be flipping tables and setting them on fire here.

Last year our town invited a recently-retired commander from the US Navy to give a speech; he made his speech about how liberals are trying to force transgender bathrooms down everyone’s throats.

As a village trustee, I got up, turned my back in the middle of the speech, and walked to the farthest corner of the cemetery (where people from the Spanish-American War are buried).

At the next village board meeting I gave a different speech, one suitable for Memorial Day and those buried in the village cemetery. I called on the Cemetery Board never to invite that guy back.

Trump will try to work in radical Islamic terrorism, or some such BS, mark my words. It’s been his team’s latest attempt to divert attention away from the Russian Affair, which seems to include nearly everyone in Trump & Co.

Personally, I get pissed at people who abuse a speaking engagement to talk about something totally unrelated to the occasion, like preachers who advise their flock to vote a particular way because Jesus.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 27, 2017 • 12:58:27am

re: #121 wheat-dogg

Trump will try to work in radical Islamic terrorism, or some such BS, mark my words. It’s been his team’s latest attempt to divert attention away from the Russian Affair, which seems to include nearly everyone in Trump & Co.

Personally, I get pissed at people who abuse a speaking engagement to talk about something totally unrelated to the occasion, like preachers who advise their flock to vote a particular way because Jesus.

I’ve seen more than one Baptist preacher end a eulogy exactly the way they end their Sunday sermons, by “giving the invitation” (for those present to repent of their sins, “accept Christ” and join the church.)

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Shiplord Kirel  May 27, 2017 • 1:01:35am

I have not seen anyone pass the plate at a funeral, though. I might ask my preacher brother to do so at my funeral, just to provide a parting freak-out.

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Nyet  May 27, 2017 • 1:02:08am

… in which Richard Spencer forgets he was supposed to pretend not to be a Nazi and retweets this:

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 1:08:10am

Off-topic NSFW:

Ham radio friend noted when he ordered some test strips for his fish tank, Amazon recommended this product to him.

I’m guessing their software is not ready to drive cars yet.

amazon.com

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freetoken  May 27, 2017 • 1:12:16am

Of the many kitten cams available, I’ve not posted links to Cleo’s kittens much, but they are very cutely colored, and are in learning mode tonight:

Cleo and the Cartoon Kittens

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 1:19:04am

I wrote about the fearmongering wingnut who gave last year’s Memorial Day speech in my village here:

dailykos.com

My speech (if the Cemetery Board had invited me) would have been (short version)

Our town has never been much larger than it is now, but as you look across this field there are over a hundred flags fluttering on the breeze.

This cemetery represents a history of the nation’s combats, from the Civil War to the Persian Gulf War. As you move from north to south and up Rose Hill, you start with flag stands for the Grand Army of the Republic.

All of these men and women gave some, some of them gave all. Those who came home from battle became farmers, ranchers, business owners, husbands, wives, and parents.

Those who did not come home left behind families and friends who forever are without them; for them the war is not over and never will be.

If you have some time today after this remembrance ceremony, I encourage you to walk through the cemetery, and reflect on those of our village who answered the call to service. Reflect on their sacrifices and those of their families. Reflect on the meaning of Memorial Day, and the fervent hope that when our nation goes to war, we send our men and women forth in a just cause. Those buried here deserve nothing less.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 1:48:02am

Shameless Page Promotion
Memorial Day Is Not a Political Holiday

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 1:50:32am

This is an interesting Tweetstorm from Seth Abramson, in light of the WaPo’s Kushner story.

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Nyet  May 27, 2017 • 2:01:43am

re: #129 Dr Lizardo
Abramson has about as much credibility as Mensch.

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Nyet  May 27, 2017 • 2:38:50am

LOL, the loon fight!

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freetoken  May 27, 2017 • 2:40:53am

Creationism is a mental illness. Years ago I made that claim here, when there was a crowd less willing to accept it… though now perhaps I might garner more support.

Anyway, an often-referenced home-schooling resource for science, to use the term loosely, has been put up on Youtube by its creator. The source is called “Red Wagon Tutorials” and you will find many references to it in the home-schooling community.

So I took a gander at the physics modules and as expected it’s a loon pretending to offer real science.

Here is the lecturer, Rosenoff, on cosmology… I put in a time stamp to pick up the end of cosmology right before he spins into young Earth-ism, so watch about 10 minutes of it or so:

Physical Science, Module 16, Part 2

[since the source doesn’t allow embed, watch on Youtube and start about 1h3m in and go for several minutes.]

The students subjected to this have been mentally abused.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 2:42:54am

re: #131 Nyet

When wingnuts attack!

Speaking of wingnuts, my wife told me of the speaker at the Memorial Day remembrance here last year that a bunch of people talking to her in the library were offended by the fellow’s speech.

Good, I wasn’t the only one.

I don’t know who’s speaking this year, but if the speaker goes off on another wingnut rant like that of last year, I won’t be able to contain myself.

I won’t stand up and shout, “You lie!” like Joe Wilson did during President Obama’s first State of the Union address, but I will get up, go to my car, and drive away. I’ll come back later in the afternoon for private reflection.

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Apocalypse  May 27, 2017 • 2:56:44am

re: #132 freetoken

Creationism is Doubling down, Hardcore mode.

Its Turtles all the way down.

Edit: clarification was needed.

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freetoken  May 27, 2017 • 2:58:13am

re: #134 Apocalypse

The video is not really new, just recently posted. The source has been selling DVDs to the home-schooling market for some time, and if a google search is a good indicator, he’s been very successful.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 3:00:31am

re: #132 freetoken

I’m not so sure that creationism is a mental illness.

I would file it under “propaganda.” As Aristotle noted, “Give me the child until he is seven and I will show you the man.”

Creationism is inculcated in children. While some adults may chuck what they know of the world in favour of creationism (or any other religious position), very few change their positions on religious faith from the time they were children (relative to the whole of a religious group).

It is noteworthy that religious belief is largely a function of geography (whereas scientific evidence remains the same throughout the world).

It was an evolutionary necessity for children to be mindful of parents’ admonitions (go near the river and the crocodile will have you for lunch). Any child who failed to follow a parent’s admonition against crocodiles would not pass along his or her genes to the next generation.

As those here know I am an atheist, so religious people here probably will take my opinion with a grain of salt. I don’t see any difference between a strict creationist view of the origin of the world and a rabbi rising from the dead.

To call creationism “mental illness” in my mind cheapens actual mental illness. A person suffering from depression or schizophrenia did not get that way because they were taught to be so.

Creationism is learned behaviour. Mental illness is not.

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Nyet  May 27, 2017 • 3:04:08am

re: #133 Anymouse

Seth is an ultra-lefty Berniac. He defended lying for Bernie.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2017 • 3:08:51am

Shocker, FNC spent last night talking about how the media was “beating up on” Jared and this morning is getting at them for focusing on the “negatives” about Trump’s trip abroad. You’d almost think that the media was (*gasp!*) doing their damned jobs.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 3:09:19am

re: #134 Apocalypse

Creationism is Doubling down, Hardcore mode.

Its Turtles all the way down.

Edit: clarification was needed.

Wasn’t there some school district in the Midwest that was using Harun Yahya Creationist videos a few years back? I seem to recall that.

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freetoken  May 27, 2017 • 3:10:03am

re: #136 Anymouse

Creationism is learned behaviour. Mental illness is not.

There is a point in that video, in the time-cut that I indicated, where the presenter does something that is more than simple inculcation.

It is the presentation of irrational, and frankly illogical, argument as a rational thought.

This goes beyond simple deception (on the part of the presenter, a way of duping marks.) It’s the inability, not just the unwillingness, to recognize fallaciousness.

There is failure in cognizance here. Now we can argue from where this may arise - an emotional need vs. the absence of lucidity. So I guess I am open to reframing my claim that creationism is an emotional illness, rather than a mental illness, though I am not sure that this is a distinction that is determinable.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 3:18:28am

re: #140 freetoken

There is a point in that video, in the time-cut that I indicated, where the presenter does something that is more than simple inculcation.

It is the presentation of irrational, and frankly illogical, argument as a rational thought.

This goes beyond simple deception (on the part of the presenter, a way of duping marks.) It’s the inability, not just the unwillingness, to recognize fallaciousness.

There is failure in cognizance here. Now we can argue from where this may arise - an emotional need vs. the absence of lucidity. So I guess I am open to reframing my claim that creationism is an emotional illness, rather than a mental illness, though I am not sure that this is a distinction that is determinable.

I would say it’s an emotional desire more than anything else. They way they look at it, if Creationism is false (it is), then their entire cosmology breaks down and if that goes, then that fatally undercuts their understanding of their place in the grand scheme of things (if there is indeed a “grand scheme”).

They need to believe in Creationism. Without that, their lives essentially mean nothing, from their point of view.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 3:21:25am

re: #140 freetoken

I would note however that such arguments are in fact aimed at children. The parents are already lost to propaganda and the video confirms what they have already been taught (to ignore reason and believe a religious assertion).

Children are generally not equipped to parse the difference between an emotional argument and an evidence-backed one. (Children also believe in the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus if they are taught about those.)

By the time children are mentally equipped to make such a distinction, they have been propagandised for years.

It is very difficult for a person to overcome an entire culture that is immersing them in unprovable faith-based assertions. When parents, pastors, community all reinforce the same message, when parents ensure their children go to schools that teach the same (or homeschool them for that), it is difficult for a child to recognise what is real and what is not. That is the point of propaganda and children are very susceptible to it (hence the Aristotle quote).

When a child is taught from the time they understand speech that evolution is a lie, climate change is a hoax perpetrated by godless secular liberals, &c and that’s all they hear for years on end, it is very difficult to penetrate.

Creationism is a tool, nothing more. It is a piece of control perpetrated by a cult (not a cult in the Catholic sense).

Still don’t see the difference between teaching strict creationism and asserting a rabbi rose from the dead to preach for forty more days. Neither has a scrap of evidence to support them, and both are asserted by hundreds of millions of people without evidence and they believe it wholeheartedly.

If you do not introduce a child to creationism, they do not adopt it. There is no difference between Christian creationism, Muslim creationism, Hindu creationism, &c except what is asserted. None have evidence.

My own child was introduced to religious views by his parents, but only insofar as there are many different religious views and none of them have any evidence to support them.

Unsurprisingly, my son is an atheist.

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William Lewis  May 27, 2017 • 3:23:07am

re: #134 Apocalypse

Creationism is Doubling down, Hardcore mode.

Its Turtles all the way down.

Edit: clarification was needed.

It’s no surprise to me as I watch the ads on the weather channel for quackery like Emu Oil and copper “braces” in ace type bandages. If people are uneducated enough to buy that garbage, why shouldn’t they swallow YEC? Which points to why the Grand Old Fascist party has been working to destroy public education for years - a gullible population can be led by the nose & profitably too!

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 3:47:05am

I need to rack out before going to the cemetery later this morning. Night, y’all.

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wheat-dogg  May 27, 2017 • 3:53:28am

re: #144 Anymouse

I need to rack out before going to the cemetery later this morning. Night, y’all.

Out of context, that is one weird sentence.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 27, 2017 • 4:09:35am

I mentioned my brother the preacher a bit earlier. He is not a fundamentalist and certainly not a creationist. Nevertheless he is part of the problem because he refuses to acknowledge that fundamentalists are a major influence at all. He believes that atheists and others with an “anti-Christian” outlook exaggerate fundy craziness and power to advance their own agendas. He persists in this delusion; claiming for example to have never heard of David Barton until I started ranting about him. To him, this is a lunatic fringe for which the whole religion is vilified. To me, it is increasingly the mainstream of active Christianity, and certainly a powerful voting bloc. There are many Christians who speak out against fundamentalist duplicity and greed, but there could be a lot more. When brutal totalitarians are running wild, silence is complicity.

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William Lewis  May 27, 2017 • 4:17:36am

I am religious, though I try to be a Christian the way I understand that - living a good life and helping others have a better life. I have no problem with science and human evolution is one of my favorite studies.

Fundamentalists - in any faith - are the problem and need to be opposed at all times by showing what should be instead of what they are.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 27, 2017 • 4:37:23am

re: #75 JordanRules

Hmmmmmm….I wonder if Bannon is secretly giggling about Jared’s situation?

Or Chris Christie? Perhaps Christie is leaker.

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wheat-dogg  May 27, 2017 • 4:39:01am

re: #147 William Lewis

I am religious, though I try to be a Christian the way I understand that - living a good life and helping others have a better life. I have no problem with science and human evolution is one of my favorite studies.

Fundamentalists - in any faith - are the problem and need to be opposed at all times by showing what should be instead of what they are.

Fundamentalists are by and large predominantly authoritarians with the added soupçon of belief in rigid dichotomies. In their worldview, scripture and its earthly interpreters (pastor/preacher/imam/rabbi, etc.) are the Ultimate Authority and anything or anyone disagreeing with that UA is automatically Evil. There is no middle ground, no subtlety, no shades of gray, no healthy theological debate.

It’s an entirely different way of thinking, which baffles those of us with a more rational and informed view of Reality. To get a Creationist, for example, to even consider evolutionary theory as maybe even possibly valid would require convincing him or her to doubt the very Word of God (as interpreted by the pastor/preacher/imam/ rabbi, etc. Such doubt is considered sinful — even heretical — within fundie circles, so getting someone meet you even a tenth of the way is nearly impossible. In their world view, you would be an agent of the Devil, trying to lure them into sin and depravity. First evolution, then touch dancing, and who knows what else might happen!?

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Apocalypse  May 27, 2017 • 4:39:21am

re: #143 William Lewis

Emu oil is a thing?

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wheat-dogg  May 27, 2017 • 4:45:59am

re: #132 freetoken

Creationism is a mental illness. Years ago I made that claim here, when there was a crowd less willing to accept it… though now perhaps I might garner more support.

Anyway, an often-referenced home-schooling resource for science, to use the term loosely, has been put up on Youtube by its creator. The source is called “Red Wagon Tutorials” and you will find many references to it in the home-schooling community.

So I took a gander at the physics modules and as expected it’s a loon pretending to offer real science.

Here is the lecturer, Rosenoff, on cosmology… I put in a time stamp to pick up the end of cosmology right before he spins into young Earth-ism, so watch about 10 minutes of it or so:

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Video

[since the source doesn’t allow embed, watch on Youtube and start about 1h3m in and go for several minutes.]

The students subjected to this have been mentally abused.

OK, I got to the 1:06:55 point and I could tell this guy has no fckin’ idea what he’s talking about. None at all. I think he’s trying to explain how redshift shows how everything is expanding away from the Earth, but making a complete mess of it.

And then he jumps to asserting the Earth doesn’t need to be billions of years old to intercept light from distant stars. 0_o

That makes no logical sense, and I will stop watching now before I hurt my brain.

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William Lewis  May 27, 2017 • 5:28:24am

re: #150 Apocalypse

Emu oil is a thing?

Product name is “Blue Emu”. It’s a salve that is as wonderful as the snake oil & patent medicines of the old west… or so they say. At least the FDA shut down the cancer cure claims for other sellers.

I hate quacks.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 27, 2017 • 5:36:38am

Trump-lite is at it again:Duterte makes rape ‘joke’ for martial law troops

President Rodrigo Duterte joked on Friday that soldiers could rape up to three women, as he reassured them of his full support under his newly-declared martial law in southern Philippines.

Duterte made the comments in jest during a speech to soldiers on Mindanao island, where he imposed military rule law on Tuesday to try to crush ISIL-linked fighters, who have been battling the army after laying siege to Marawi City.

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jeffreyw  May 27, 2017 • 5:37:12am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Belafon  May 27, 2017 • 5:45:07am

re: #35 Dave In Austin

Ahhhh Hello?

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I say we let the sales go through, and then declare them illegal and punish GS by not refunding the price.

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Amory Blaine  May 27, 2017 • 5:46:15am

Gahh. Another sleepless night rolls into another workday. Then for a bonus I have to go to a 50 year anniversary party tonight. Wingnuts will be plentiful at the event. At least I’ll be too exhausted to talk politics.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 5:48:35am

re: #154 jeffreyw

Your food posts are looking better these days
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Varek Raith  May 27, 2017 • 6:06:42am

So, we’re now at the point where defending someone against a bigot gets you stabbed in the neck and killed.
WTF.

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sagehen  May 27, 2017 • 6:09:04am
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Belafon  May 27, 2017 • 6:09:27am

re: #158 Varek Raith

So, we’re now at the point where defending someone against a bigot gets you stabbed in the neck and killed.
WTF.

Sadly, we’ve gone back a bit, to a time when people were beaten for riding a bus. We just have to keep fighting.

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 6:11:41am

No wonder why Trump likes Jared so much…he comes from high class.

motherjones.com

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sagehen  May 27, 2017 • 6:13:06am
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jeffreyw  May 27, 2017 • 6:13:24am

re: #157 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Ground kitten burger with sides.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 6:17:23am

re: #156 Amory Blaine

Gahh. Another sleepless night rolls into another workday. Then for a bonus I have to go to a 50 year anniversary party tonight. Wingnuts will be plentiful at the event. At least I’ll be too exhausted to talk politics.

I’ve found that wearing this works great as wingnut repellent. Like a crucifix vs. vampires.

Wingnut repellent

And yes, there are a few (mercifully, very few) wingnuts here.

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lawhawk  May 27, 2017 • 6:17:40am

The FBI/CIA/NSA should be on their feet demanding that security clearances be yanked from Kushner and Ivanka - for starters. Not a single thing any of these people have done merits their clearances, and their lies/omissions only shows that they’re incapable of doing the right thing.

There’s reasons that the rest of our allies are looking to limit (or are limiting) intel sharing to the US because it’s leaking to the Russians and undermining the national security for not only the US but our allies. UK and Israel are already limiting, and you can be sure the rest are following.

That doesn’t make the US great again. It makes the US a whole lot less safe, and the only ones who truly benefit from the chaos this administration is inflicting is the guy sitting at the Kremlin. Trump is playing entirely into Russia’s hands, and this has been clear for months.

Trump and the GOP have never provided a satisfactory explanation for why the GOP platform was modified ahead of the convention. That was yet another tipoff that things weren’t right, but the GOP played along.

That means the GOP leadership is likewise complicit.

But you know, the GOP response to all of this is:

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sagehen  May 27, 2017 • 6:23:20am

re: #165 lawhawk

But you know, the GOP and Bernie-bro response to all of this is:

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caseyjr  May 27, 2017 • 6:23:26am

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel

I’ve seen more than one Baptist preacher end a eulogy exactly the way they end their Sunday sermons, by “giving the invitation” (for those present to repent of their sins, “accept Christ” and join the church.)

they have to give the altar call; the power of christ compels them.

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Decatur Deb  May 27, 2017 • 6:25:14am

Got a slow connection on a fast bus, an hour out of Charlotte, NC.

Greyhound address system in NYC plays Bach—Brandenburg #5.
Fellow travelers are so declasse that their iPhones use default ring tones.

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lawhawk  May 27, 2017 • 6:28:03am

Do you hear that sound Mr Kushner.
That is the sound of inevitability.
That is the sound of your lifetime incarceration.

Good bye Mr. Kushner.

But but but… I can name names…. (because you know he’s gonna try to weasel out of a lifetime federal housing stay).

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Joe Bacon  May 27, 2017 • 6:28:15am

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Jay C  May 27, 2017 • 6:30:57am

re: #165 lawhawk

Trump and the GOP have never provided a satisfactory explanation for why the GOP platform was modified ahead of the convention

.

When was the last time “Trump and the GOP” provided a satisfactory explanation for anything? Or, even felt like they HAD to?

Even an Old like yrs. truly has to reach back to Watergate days to remember anything like that happening, and ever since then, Republicans have used their Watergate spasm of conscience as a template for what NOT to do….

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Amory Blaine  May 27, 2017 • 6:31:32am

re: #168 Decatur Deb

Got a slow connection on a fast bus, and hour out of Charlotte, NC.

Greyhound address system in NYC plays Bach—Brandenburg #5.
Fellow travelers are so declasse that their iPhones use default ring tones.

Dang DD, I’ll be in Charlotte next Saturday. Just missed you!

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sagehen  May 27, 2017 • 6:32:45am

re: #163 jeffreyw

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Ground kitten burger with sides.

I’m not a fan of mustard or peppers, but the meat underneath looks tasty.

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Decatur Deb  May 27, 2017 • 6:37:17am

re: #172 Amory Blaine

Dang DD, I’ll be in Charlotte next Saturday. Just missed you!

Just passing through—done about 50 hrs on the Dog this week.

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sagehen  May 27, 2017 • 6:38:19am

re: #171 Jay C

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When was the last time “Trump and the GOP” provided a satisfactory explanation for anything? Or, even felt like they HAD to?

Even an Old like yrs. truly has to reach back to Watergate days to remember anything like that happening, and ever since then, Republicans have used their Watergate spasm of conscience as a template for what NOT to do….

My family was HUGE Nixon fans. We loved the EPA and OSHA with every fiber of our being, the 1973 assistance to Israel… Dad did not want to believe any of the Watergate stuff.

Until the tapes came out. He cried. “Say it isn’t so, Dick, say it isn’t so!!”

Dad’s parents cried for a different reason. Grandma was from Poland, Grandpa was from Russia, and the idea that a bad President could be put out of office without a shot being fired was the most miraculous thing imaginable. To them, it was absolute proof that America was the greatest country ever.

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ObserverArt  May 27, 2017 • 6:41:24am

Damn Fridays anymore. It’s getting harder and harder to keep up with all the stuff that seems to break on Fridays. Hey, it’s the weekend!!!

Oh well, maybe the pure weight of all the reveals will speed up the Fall of the House of Trump.

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 6:43:05am

Exhaustion, meetings with lawyers, or three carrier groups off North Korea. It’s going to be a big week.

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 6:48:16am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 6:48:52am

re: #177 jaunte

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Exhaustion, meetings with lawyers, or three carrier groups off North Korea. It’s going to be a big week.

Bailing on the only part of being President that he likes is a big deal.
He’s either too weak, or the lawyers refuse to let him out where he can incriminate himself.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 6:50:01am

re: #178 jaunte

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 6:50:40am

re: #177 jaunte

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Exhaustion, meetings with lawyers, or three carrier groups off North Korea. It’s going to be a big week.

A couple of pointless Executive Order signing ceremonies and he’ll be good as new!

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 6:51:57am

Everyone Trump touches is corrupted.

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JordanRules  May 27, 2017 • 6:54:39am

re: #165 lawhawk

The FBI/CIA/NSA should be on their feet demanding that security clearances be yanked from Kushner and Ivanka - for starters.

QFT. Can’t be said enough. They have access to critical information and can’t be trusted. This is crazy. Suspend them at the least, if that’s a thing.

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Apocalypse  May 27, 2017 • 6:56:57am

re: #182 jaunte

He’d be cool with someone having “backchannel Comms” with his wife/partner then?
///

That’s dirtier than I thought it would be.

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 6:58:51am

Working for Trump means excusing the inexcusable. There’s no way around it. That means actively participating in the corruption of one’s own conscience.

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 6:59:20am

Voyage of the damned.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 27, 2017 • 6:59:43am

re: #185 jaunte

Working for Trump means excusing the inexcusable. There’s no way around it. That means actively participating in the corruption of one’s own conscience.

“Check your conscience at the door” is in the contract you sign when you pay to be a member of the Trump administration.

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I cannot.  May 27, 2017 • 7:00:08am

re: #182 jaunte

And he LITERALLY wrote the book on how officers failed to stand up to the civilian leadership in Vietnam. Good jerb, General.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 7:00:50am

re: #182 jaunte

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Everyone Trump touches is corrupted.

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caseyjr  May 27, 2017 • 7:03:57am

re: #150 Apocalypse

Emu oil is a thing?

there’s nothing more annoying than a squeaky emu.

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Barefoot Grin  May 27, 2017 • 7:05:36am

Does Trump still believe that NATO members pay into some kind of general fund to pay back the US? I thought Angela explained it to him.

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ObserverArt  May 27, 2017 • 7:05:52am

re: #185 jaunte

Working for Trump means excusing the inexcusable. There’s no way around it. That means actively participating in the corruption of one’s own conscience.

If you did even a brief study on Trump’s ways you would have to expect you would be involving yourself in dirty dealing becoming a part of his administration. But hey…power!

It sure does explain why he chose the people he did for their cabinet and other positions. They came in knowing it would be corrupt.

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wheat-dogg  May 27, 2017 • 7:06:03am

re: #178 jaunte

Sounds like a sales pitch at an MLM meeting

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 7:06:58am

re: #191 Barefoot Grin

Does Trump still believe that NATO members pay into some kind of general fund to pay back the US? I thought Angela explained it to him.

The other leaders all chipped in 100 Euros each and gave Trump a little NATO balance book.

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 7:10:06am

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 7:11:32am
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mmmirele  May 27, 2017 • 7:11:34am

re: #135 freetoken

The video is not really new, just recently posted. The source has been selling DVDs to the home-schooling market for some time, and if a google search is a good indicator, he’s been very successful.

He used to work for one of the “creation science” publishers (Apologia) and apparently has an endorsement from that publisher for teaching from their books. I did listen go on about cosmology and I was like, uh, uh, uh, everything he was doing was to point out that the earth was the center of the universe and it was only a few thousand years old. It’s only a step from that towards geocentrism. I also noticed he didn’t even touch on the cosmic microwave background radiation, which was very new when I first read about it as a girl in the late 1960s. So he knew or should have known about this and didn’t mention it to his students, because it would be a proof against his creationism.

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Varek Raith  May 27, 2017 • 7:11:39am

re: #195 darthstar

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*Subdued golfclap*

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wheat-dogg  May 27, 2017 • 7:16:56am

re: #197 mmmirele

I gathered from listening to a few minutes of his “lesson” that he really has no clue what is talking about. The depth of his knowledge appears to be limited to a cursory reading of Wikipedia and some creationist tomes of science.

Since I used to teach physics, I took a peek at one of the physics videos. It’s also horrible. He’s lifted stuff from a variety of other sources, which in the hands of a competent instructor could make for an interesting lesson. I can’t imagine how kids listening to his droning voice could even stay awake for 90 minutes.

Freetoken is right. This is child abuse.

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 7:19:56am

re: #189 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 7:20:19am
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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 7:20:55am

re: #198 Varek Raith

*Subdued golfclap*

C’mon, that shit was funny.

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ObserverArt  May 27, 2017 • 7:22:23am

re: #201 darthstar

Sean McCabe @darthstar99
He should do some community service and learn a valuable lesson from all this treason.


10:19 AM - 27 May 2017
Retweets likes

25 years in a Fed prison would be a good community service.

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 7:23:13am

The thing about the Constitution is, you have to make choices.

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mmmirele  May 27, 2017 • 7:24:22am

re: #146 Shiplord Kirel

I mentioned my brother the preacher a bit earlier. He is not a fundamentalist and certainly not a creationist. Nevertheless he is part of the problem because he refuses to acknowledge that fundamentalists are a major influence at all. He believes that atheists and others with an “anti-Christian” outlook exaggerate fundy craziness and power to advance their own agendas. He persists in this delusion; claiming for example to have never heard of David Barton until I started ranting about him. To him, this is a lunatic fringe for which the whole religion is vilified. To me, it is increasingly the mainstream of active Christianity, and certainly a powerful voting bloc. There are many Christians who speak out against fundamentalist duplicity and greed, but there could be a lot more. When brutal totalitarians are running wild, silence is complicity.

You should turn your brother the preacher on to Warren Throckmorton. He’s a professor of psychology at Grove City College, which is very conservative. It’s so conservative that Pence spoke at its recent graduation. However, Throckmorton is an implacable enemy to David Barton and his associates, including Glenn Beck. If a guy who works for a conservative college thinks Barton is a really big problem, then I think your preacher brother should at least take a listen.

patheos.com

For the record, I’ve worked with Throckmorton on busting a few people with fake doctorates from a local religious diploma mill. These include Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin, T.D. Jakes, Lance Wallnau, and a couple of Phoenix megachurch pastors. The diploma mill is currently located in “shared office space” in Phoenix (read: mail drop with desks available for rental). I don’t agree with everything Warren does or says, but I support him because he’s so damned sensible on so much. And he’s no Trump fan.

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nines09  May 27, 2017 • 7:24:57am

Tell me once again how this guy is all there. Or maybe he has something on his mind?

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 7:26:10am

re: #203 ObserverArt

25 years in a Fed prison would be a good community service.

I don’t even see him mowing lawns at state parks on weekends for three months. Until enough Republicans jump ship and call for serious prosecution, this is all a shit show that they can still survive.

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ObserverArt  May 27, 2017 • 7:26:37am

re: #204 jaunte

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The thing about the Constitution is, you have to make choices.

Time to resign Donny. The Presidency is not for you and The Clan.

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sagehen  May 27, 2017 • 7:28:23am

re: #192 ObserverArt

If you did even a brief study on Trump’s ways you would have to expect you would be involving yourself in dirty dealing becoming a part of his administration. But hey…power!

It sure does explain why he chose the people he did for their cabinet and other positions. They came in knowing it would be corrupt.

It also explains why no serious professionals would accept appointments to his cabinet or his foreign policy team.

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wheat-dogg  May 27, 2017 • 7:28:46am

Awaken with JP has had it with all you Round Earthers!

Flat Earth Theory - Ultra Spiritual Life episode 39

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 7:29:19am

re: #177 jaunte

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Exhaustion, meetings with lawyers, or three carrier groups off North Korea. It’s going to be a big week.

!!!!!!!

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 7:29:38am

re: #211 Stanley Sea

Indeed.

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 7:29:50am

Tweet repeated in next post.

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 7:32:14am
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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 7:35:29am
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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 7:36:33am

A gift from the Dood Abides at dKos

Uncapped version here: dailykos.com

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JordanRules  May 27, 2017 • 7:37:20am
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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 7:38:54am
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wheat-dogg  May 27, 2017 • 7:39:05am

re: #214 darthstar

Someone needs to Photoshop Trump onto a Hoveround.

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Jay C  May 27, 2017 • 7:40:33am

re: #204 jaunte

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The thing about the Constitution is, you have to make choices.

Yeah, I can see a wonderful opportunity for a new Internet mockery-meme: what other laws wouldn’t it be “practical” to comply with….?

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 7:40:39am

re: #219 wheat-dogg

Someone needs to Photoshop Trump onto a Hoveround.

And following the rest of the G7

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Jay C  May 27, 2017 • 7:42:57am

re: #219 wheat-dogg

Someone needs to Photoshop Trump onto a Hoveround.

Or that P-shop of Trump in the little plastic car (from his Big Rig fun-day)

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wheat-dogg  May 27, 2017 • 7:48:55am

re: #222 Jay C

Or that P-shop of Trump in the little plastic car (from his Big Rig fun-day)

Even better

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 7:51:15am
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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 7:52:36am
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Amory Blaine  May 27, 2017 • 7:53:09am

German metalheads construct beer pipeline for Wacken

Wacken Open Air Festival is constructing a 7-kilometer network of pipes to quench its thirsty fans. Attendees will drink an average of 5.1 liters of beer each over the festival.

Attendees of the world’s biggest metal music festival are expected to drink so much beer that organizers constructed a beer pipeline.

The new pipeline will carry about 400,000 liters (105,000 gallons) of beer through the grounds of Wacken Open Air Festival in northern Germany.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 27, 2017 • 7:53:37am

re: #223 wheat-dogg

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 7:54:34am
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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 7:55:05am
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Varek Raith  May 27, 2017 • 7:55:24am

I’d like not to rob a bank, but I just can’t comply with the law.
So….
We cool?

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 7:56:10am
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nines09  May 27, 2017 • 7:56:52am
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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 7:58:00am

re: #225 darthstar

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caseyjr  May 27, 2017 • 7:58:19am

re: #214 darthstar

Carrying around all that excess “stamina” at his age is exhausting.

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Varek Raith  May 27, 2017 • 7:59:35am

re: #233 Dr Lizardo

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Low energy!
Sad!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2017 • 8:01:19am

eejit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2017 • 8:04:22am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 8:04:44am

re: #229 Stanley Sea

His criminal record includes felony robbery, kidnapping and weapon convictions, records show.

Whoever allowed this felon to be loose on the streets shares responsibility for these murders.

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 8:06:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2017 • 8:08:13am
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wheat-dogg  May 27, 2017 • 8:10:18am

re: #239 darthstar

Where’s POTUS? Easy, we’ll track his phone’s GPS coordinates! I mean, NCIS does it all the time.

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Apocalypse  May 27, 2017 • 8:12:05am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth
Legit POTUS caused Harry to get ironic sunburn from his coolness.

Respect.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 8:12:17am

re: #238 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Whoever allowed this felon to be loose on the streets shares responsibility for these murders.

Here’s an article about him from The Portland Mercury:

portlandmercury.com

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sagehen  May 27, 2017 • 8:12:37am

re: #233 Dr Lizardo

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 8:13:28am

re: #244 sagehen

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Trump wouldn’t even survive two minutes of that.

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JordanRules  May 27, 2017 • 8:13:53am

re: #232 nines09

Speaks partially to how horribly media covered the campaign and it’s players. No stone unturned for any Clinton affiliates and the Obamas and all their people.

People are now like wait what, Melania is Catholic, Son in Law from a very crooked Dad and there’s so much more folks don’t know.

The double standard on vetting was amazing. NYT especially guilty, he was from their backyard. They were uniquely positioned to do great work during the campaign. They did not and we’re all paying for it.

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 8:14:33am

Fuck it…I did it myself. Someone with actual photoshop skills will do it better later.

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Timothy Watson  May 27, 2017 • 8:14:34am

re: #238 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Whoever allowed this felon to be loose on the streets shares responsibility for these murders.

It’s not like he was black and sold drugs.

///

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Apocalypse  May 27, 2017 • 8:15:51am

re: #248 Timothy Watson

Or loose Cigarettes.

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 8:15:58am

re: #243 Dr Lizardo

Here’s an article about him from The Portland Mercury:

portlandmercury.com

Known white supremacist.

Fucking a

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JordanRules  May 27, 2017 • 8:16:32am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

Harry seems taller than I had perceived before! Good looking pair doing good work!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2017 • 8:17:37am
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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 8:17:58am

re: #245 Dr Lizardo

Trump wouldn’t even survive two minutes of that.

He probably doesn’t know how to swim.

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FormerDirtDart  May 27, 2017 • 8:18:03am

re: #229 Stanley Sea

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 8:18:13am

re: #243 Dr Lizardo

Here’s an article about him from The Portland Mercury:

portlandmercury.com

A few Portland police officers on April 29 appeared to be familiar with Christian, but not threatened by him. They claimed he had a head injury and was mentally ill.

I’m sure they’re right about his disability, but so wrong about him being a harmless nut. The cops may be white supremacists too.

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 8:19:51am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 8:21:14am

re: #253 Stanley Sea

He probably doesn’t know how to swim.

That would be exercise, and would deplete his precious bodily fluids.

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darthstar  May 27, 2017 • 8:22:35am

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calochortus  May 27, 2017 • 8:22:52am

re: #255 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m sure they’re right about his disability, but so wrong about him being a harmless nut. The cops may be white supremacists too.

They could be, but then they could be looking at him as a nuisance rather than a true danger because a lot of these right wing nutters are more nuisance than anything else.

Freepers are, for the most part, tying themselves in knots in explaining why it was liberals’ fault even if this guy shouldn’t have killed people.

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nines09  May 27, 2017 • 8:23:29am

re: #246 JordanRules

I could go on for hours on the complete lack of investigative work by all the services. It’s entertainment to them.

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sagehen  May 27, 2017 • 8:23:51am

Somebody on AM Joy just now:

“If President Obama’s transition team would have tried this, President Bush would have locked them up, told the President-Elect you can pick up your men at Guantanamo on January 20.”

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 8:24:39am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 8:24:41am

re: #258 darthstar

Indeed
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Varek Raith  May 27, 2017 • 8:25:19am

re: #258 darthstar

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re: #263 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Indeed.

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 8:25:28am
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Varek Raith  May 27, 2017 • 8:26:12am

re: #265 Stanley Sea

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What a wide ranging vocabulary he has!

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JordanRules  May 27, 2017 • 8:26:37am

Oh FFS

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calochortus  May 27, 2017 • 8:27:41am

re: #267 JordanRules

Oh FFS

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Couldn’t remember his last name?

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 8:27:44am

re: #267 JordanRules

Oh FFS

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All the other G7 leaders have a lot to tell after this meeting.

A LOT

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John Carter  May 27, 2017 • 8:28:01am

re: #266 Varek Raith

What a wide ranging vocabulary he has!

It’s actually one of the keys to his success.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 8:28:35am

re: #267 JordanRules

Oh FFS

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Unshaken Defiance  May 27, 2017 • 8:28:48am

Lets just drop this in here for anyone who might want to use it. From yesterdays Ps fun.

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Myron Falwell  May 27, 2017 • 8:30:23am

Heh.

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nines09  May 27, 2017 • 8:30:33am

re: #265 Stanley Sea

JFC. So very presidential. “And I won the electoral. I did. You can look it up. I won. I’m a winner.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2017 • 8:31:20am
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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 8:32:06am

He’s taking the limo from the stage for the 200’ distance to AF1.

10 hour flight home.

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Timothy Watson  May 27, 2017 • 8:32:19am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump: Can I get your digits?

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nines09  May 27, 2017 • 8:32:33am

re: #276 Stanley Sea

He’s taking the limo from the stage for the 200’ distance to AF1.

10 hour flight home.

Emperors need not walk…

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sagehen  May 27, 2017 • 8:32:41am

re: #263 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2017 • 8:32:59am
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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 8:33:23am

Just back from the village cemetery.

There was a Korean War veteran buried there just yesterday.

There are an awful lot of little American flags there today, more than everybody who lives in the village.

The Memorial Day service at the cemetery will be tomorrow at 11AM. As the flag committee guy, it’s the time of year we run up a whole bunch of large flags at the American Legion memorial in our village cemetery. (Eleven) The Legion will also light the flame there this afternoon. (It is only used on Memorial Day.)

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 8:34:38am

re: #276 Stanley Sea

He’s taking the limo from the stage for the 200’ distance to AF1.

10 hour flight home.

Spicer was pooped from all the piggyback rides.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2017 • 8:34:53am
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Bass Reeves  May 27, 2017 • 8:36:14am

re: #105 danarchy

OK, that doesn’t seem to describe the facts we have at this point at all. I have no doubt more info may follow, but I don’t see where simply asking for the secure line of communication does any of that.

Secret =/= secure. We have secure lines of communication with just about everyone already, especially Russia. This would be an attempt to bypass those. Having undisclosed meetings with foreign SPIES really does set you up for investigation at a minimum, and if you are found to have given classified information or attempted to subvert US institutions, that means you have committed espionage. Like, it’s one of those things they tell you about when you are granted a clearance. If this was done by any actual civil servant, they would have already been arrested.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2017 • 8:36:27am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“I am excited for the great adventures and achievements that all of us will accomplish together,”

jeebus…he sounds like Bilbo Baggins.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 8:37:15am

re: #276 Stanley Sea

He’s taking the limo from the stage for the 200’ distance to AF1.

10 hour flight home.

I will be most happy if he either forgets to go to Arlington on Monday, or if Air Force One is diverted due to weather or criminal flight from prosecution.

At this point, Mr. “STDs were my personal Vietnam” would be a stain on those hallowed grounds.

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 8:37:28am
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covfefe  May 27, 2017 • 8:38:21am

re: #254 FormerDirtDart

“He aint with us! We don’t actually say out loud in public what he’s saying now. But in private between one another, yeah he’s cool!”

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 8:39:00am

re: #273 Myron Falwell

Heh.

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LOL it took me a couple of seconds to get that.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 8:41:07am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…he sounds like Bilbo Baggins.

More like Bilbo Baggins’ lesser-known mentally-challenged cousin, Derpo Baggins.

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SteelPH  May 27, 2017 • 8:41:42am

re: #290 Dr Lizardo

More like Bilbo Baggins’ lesser-known mentally-challenged cousin, Derpo Baggins.

Fuckface Von Baggins.

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 8:42:09am
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nines09  May 27, 2017 • 8:42:58am

“I am excited for the great adventures and achievements that all of us will accomplish together,”

So you are in the service. In a European nation. Your President shows up and spills that from his mouth. How do you feel?

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Timothy Watson  May 27, 2017 • 8:45:16am

re: #293 nines09

“I am excited for the great adventures and achievements that all of us will accomplish together,”

So you are in the service. In a European nation. Your President shows up and spills that from his mouth. How do you feel?

Sounds like the platitudes you would hear at a high school graduation…

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lawhawk  May 27, 2017 • 8:46:31am

Trump’s alternative reality speeches are something to behold:

Trump thinks he can simply state something and therefore it’s true.

Trump just keeps lying. It’s all he ever does.

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nines09  May 27, 2017 • 8:47:37am

re: #294 Timothy Watson

Fresh out of ROTC, Donnie led the patrol right down the middle of the road against the wishes of his troops who had been in the bush for months……

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 8:47:47am

Tomi Lahren being, well, Tomi again …

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 8:49:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2017 • 8:50:28am
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FormerDirtDart  May 27, 2017 • 8:51:59am

The only important news involving Sigonella today…

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wheat-dogg  May 27, 2017 • 8:52:44am

re: #269 Stanley Sea

All the other G7 leaders have a lot to tell after this meeting.

A LOT

The after party will be a laugh a minute (especially since Trump would not be invited).

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Timothy Watson  May 27, 2017 • 8:53:11am

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Announcing humanitarian assistance for American refugees and internally displaced persons?

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JordanRules  May 27, 2017 • 8:53:29am

re: #297 Anymouse

That was my favorite tweet of the week. Still LMAO!

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 8:53:49am

My representative (the guy who says he only represents Republicans), on NPR. As always, not a nice guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2017 • 8:54:07am

heh

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lawhawk  May 27, 2017 • 8:55:31am

re: #304 Anymouse

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nines09  May 27, 2017 • 8:55:42am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

Translation; Full diaper.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 8:56:37am

re: #279 sagehen

Well, that’s the first time I’ve heard a filksong since I stopped going to conventions about 25 years ago. Production quality has improved.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 8:57:24am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 8:58:24am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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caseyjr  May 27, 2017 • 8:58:49am

Could Trump actually be Leeroy Jenkins? The G6 want to know.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 9:00:29am

re: #297 Anymouse

Tomi Lahren being, well, Tomi again …

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Pawn of the Oppressor  May 27, 2017 • 9:00:32am

re: #298 Anymouse

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If we ever grow the balls to declare White Racist Asshole-Queda a terrorist group, we really will need more prisons.

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HappyWarrior  May 27, 2017 • 9:01:14am

Something funny about a Trump supporting friend of my cousin’s complaining about our criticism of his shove of the Montegrin PM.

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HappyWarrior  May 27, 2017 • 9:02:02am

re: #312 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Oh gee, Tomi, you all wanted to impeach Obama even though you didn’t see him as legitimate. This isn’t rocket science. I

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 9:02:24am
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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 9:02:24am

TRUMP SCANDAL! No, not that one. Or that one. Or that one. Or that one. Hackers target The Donald’s businesses (Goes to The Register, citing ABC News)

(More at The Register):

The FBI and CIA are investigating an attempted hack on the Trump Organization.

According to a report from ABC citing unnamed officials with the intelligence agencies, it is believed someone overseas attempted to breach the President’s international real estate holding company.

The report claims that officials and cybersecurity specialists with both the FBI and CIA met earlier this month with Eric and Donald Trump Jr, who have been running the Trump Organization since their father assumed the Presidency of the United States in January.

The report did not suggest where the hackers may have originated. The Trump Organization has denied any of its data was compromised.

“We absolutely weren’t hacked,” Eric Trump said. “That’s crazy. We weren’t hacked, I can tell you that.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 9:03:15am

re: #315 HappyWarrior

Oh gee, Tomi, you all wanted to impeach Obama even though you didn’t see him as legitimate. This isn’t rocket science. I

She makes her living by saying stupid shit and having a nice body. Conservatives love that.

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HappyWarrior  May 27, 2017 • 9:04:09am

re: #318 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

She makes her living by saying stupid shit and having a nice body. Conservatives love that.

It’s the FNC model. Women the old fuckers who can wank to but sound like Rush Limbaugh. It’s pornography for those who are too chicken shit to look at the real thing.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 9:04:16am

re: #313 Pawn of the Oppressor

If we ever grow the balls to declare White Racist Asshole-Queda a terrorist group, we really will need more prisons.

We can release the people locked up for using politically-incorrect drugs.

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Varek Raith  May 27, 2017 • 9:04:37am

@_#$(*&_@(*#%

I stepped on a tack…

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HappyWarrior  May 27, 2017 • 9:04:51am

Oh baby, tell me global warming is a myth and that we should starve everyone on welfare and that I’m a good conservative patriot.

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lawhawk  May 27, 2017 • 9:05:15am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

It’s the FNC model. Women the old fuckers who can wank to but sound like Rush Limbaugh. It’s pornography for those who are too chicken shit to look at the real thing.

That’s what the salacious gam cam is for. Oh look, you can see above the knee *swoon*.

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lawhawk  May 27, 2017 • 9:05:32am

re: #321 Varek Raith

@_#$(*&_@(*#%

I stepped on a tack…

It’s Obama’s fault.

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FormerDirtDart  May 27, 2017 • 9:05:50am
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Varek Raith  May 27, 2017 • 9:07:39am

re: #292 jaunte

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Totally not a terrorist.
/Nope.

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FormerDirtDart  May 27, 2017 • 9:07:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2017 • 9:10:11am
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Jay C  May 27, 2017 • 9:10:49am

re: #317 Anymouse

“We absolutely weren’t hacked,” Eric Trump said. “That’s crazy. We weren’t hacked, I can tell you that.”

Well then: Eric Trump says so, so that settles the issue for me! *

* IOW, they were almost certainly hacked, that probably most of their data was stolen, and the rest yuuuugely compromised; and that juicy dirt on the Trump Org’s criminal enterprises is likely to be on the Net within weeks.

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HappyWarrior  May 27, 2017 • 9:11:49am

re: #327 FormerDirtDart

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Yeah it’s pretty funny to hear the lock her up crying about this. I don’t give a shit. Flynn and the entire Trump opened himself up to this by calling Clinton crooked. What goes around comes around.

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 9:11:50am

re: #313 Pawn of the Oppressor

If we ever grow the balls to declare White Racist Asshole-Queda a terrorist group, we really will need more prisons.

Coery Pein, Willamette Week

“…Christian said he was there to support “free speech” and demanded to know which side I was on. “Or are you one of these guys that tries to pretend you’re neutral?” he said.

I knew I was on whatever side he wasn’t, but I just kept my mouth shut and let him talk. I didn’t get much information out of Christian, or his friend, an older guy from the suburbs who was missing a few teeth, wearing dusty black leather biker gear, who refused to give his name because he was “too known.”

The organizer of the march, Vancouver’s Joey Gibson of the “Patriot Prayer” group that has invited more racist and anti-Semitic speakers to a June 4 rally in downtown Portland, disavowed any association with Christian.

But I got the distinct impression that Christian and his skittish friend had come to the rally with a larger crew.

As we spoke on the curb, I saw them signal to a fat man with the shaved head who was driving a yellow pickup truck flying a “Blue Lives Matter” flag off the back. The truck proceeded to circle the area as the right-wing marchers traded insults with antifa while marching down the city’s immigrant main street.
wweek.com

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I cannot.  May 27, 2017 • 9:13:32am

re: #331 jaunte

who refused to give his name because he was “too known.”

Umm…apparently NOT that well known…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 9:14:41am

re: #327 FormerDirtDart

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Apocalypse  May 27, 2017 • 9:20:09am

re: #317 Anymouse

We weren’t hacked, I can tell you that.”

He could tell me the sky is blue, and I’d respond with what colour is the sea in your world.

Anyone can tell anyone anything, whether that is the truth is different.

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BeachDem  May 27, 2017 • 9:23:45am

re: #229 Stanley Sea

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But his mom says he’s a nice person:

“He’s been in prison, he’s always been spouting anti-establishment stuff but he’s a nice person I just can’t imagine.”

Christian has previously been convicted for felony robbery, kidnapping and possession of weapons. He will be arraigned in Multnomah County Court on Monday, where he may face additional charges, authorities say.

He’s also had ties to white supremacy in the area, according to authorities. On April 29, police confiscated a baseball bat from him at a “March for Free Speech” rally, after which he screamed racial epithets and gave the Nazi salute throughout the day, the Portland Mercury reports.

Police say he suffers from mental illness (of course—he’s white) but mom says no.

huffingtonpost.com

(I’m behind on this post, so if already posted, apologies)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 27, 2017 • 9:24:45am

re: #318 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

She makes her living by saying stupid shit and having a nice body. Conservatives love that.

Fundamentalists find stupid women desirable. They’re more easily controlled. I guess I fucked up majorly on that score.

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A Cranky One  May 27, 2017 • 9:25:59am

OT: Something pleasant

So Mrs Cranky’s garden is awake and starting it’s regular show. Grabbed a few cell phone camera pictures to share.

View from the driveway

One interesting thing about the garden is all the re purposed stuff. Made a joking comment that she had everything but the kitchen sink out there. Discovered this today:

One of these days I’ll learn to stay quiet. ;-)

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HappyWarrior  May 27, 2017 • 9:26:03am

re: #335 BeachDem

But his mom says he’s a nice person:

“He’s been in prison, he’s always been spouting anti-establishment stuff but he’s a nice person I just can’t imagine.”

Police say he suffers from mental illness (of course—he’s white) but mom says no.

huffingtonpost.com

(I’m behind on this post, so if already posted, apologies)

Nice people don’t do what he did.

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lawhawk  May 27, 2017 • 9:26:19am
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sagehen  May 27, 2017 • 9:26:27am
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sagehen  May 27, 2017 • 9:28:19am
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Joe Bacon  May 27, 2017 • 9:28:47am

re: #327 FormerDirtDart

Traitor!
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BeachDem  May 27, 2017 • 9:29:37am

re: #232 nines09

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I’m kind of amazed that all these people have never heard any of this before about Kushner’s father. It’s not like it’s been any big secret.

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ObserverArt  May 27, 2017 • 9:30:10am

re: #253 Stanley Sea

He probably doesn’t know how to swim.

Right about now I hope that is the case as he hits the open waters of all of these investigations.

Drown in it Trump.

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Joe Bacon  May 27, 2017 • 9:30:15am

re: #333 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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President Benedict Arnold…
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 27, 2017 • 9:30:17am

re: #342 Joe Bacon

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He looks like a smarmy git.

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Joe Bacon  May 27, 2017 • 9:31:09am

re: #343 BeachDem

I’m kind of amazed that all these people have never heard any of this before about Kushner’s father. It’s not like it’s been any big secret.

A very clear example of IOKIYAR!

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calochortus  May 27, 2017 • 9:31:12am

re: #335 BeachDem

But his mom says he’s a nice person:

“He’s been in prison, he’s always been spouting anti-establishment stuff but he’s a nice person I just can’t imagine.”

Police say he suffers from mental illness (of course—he’s white) but mom says no.

huffingtonpost.com

(I’m behind on this post, so if already posted, apologies)

I think that gets into a very difficult area of mental illness or just plain nasty differentiation. I think anyone who yells at strangers and kills people for trying to stop him is mentally ill. Full stop. But are they legally not responsible? At what point do they lose their rights? That I don’t know.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 9:32:18am

For the second time, the Eustis, Fla. city council thought it “appropriate” that when an atheist gave an invocation before the start of the city council meeting, a city councilmember gave a “correct” invocation involving Jesus immediately after the atheist was finished.

patheos.com

Previously, the council called on a pastor in the city hall to do this.

The councilmember’s second invocation wasn’t on the agenda (that would be against state law in my state).

In Galloway v Town of Greece, it was noted that towns may have invocations before meetings, but towns may not favour any religious belief. Since that decision was handed down, towns have tried to get around it with “approved” lists of pastors or churches, prohibiting certain members or groups of the public from giving invocations, &c.

My own village board has never held invocations before the start of village board meetings, we just get on with the voters’ business as we were elected to do.

This also happened to a state representative in Arizona last month.

The Friendly Atheist deals with the Eustis case, along with video of the city council meeting and the challenge from another citizen during public commentary time, when the city councilmember tried to interrupt the complaint and shut the citizen down.

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stpaulbear  May 27, 2017 • 9:33:03am

re: #317 Anymouse

TRUMP SCANDAL! No, not that one. Or that one. Or that one. Or that one. Hackers target The Donald’s businesses (Goes to The Register, citing ABC News)

(More at The Register):

I’m really hoping to see Eric’s and Junior’s business left in shards and tatters by the time that their dad is removed from office.

I just hope this can happen before they destroy life for everyone else.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 27, 2017 • 9:33:21am

re: #348 calochortus

I think that gets into a very difficult area of mental illness or just plain nasty differentiation. I think anyone who yells at strangers and kills people for trying to stop him is mentally ill. Full stop. But are they legally not responsible? At what point do they lose their rights? That I don’t know.

I don’t so much care whether he’s legally responsible. He just needs locked up forever.

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Teukka  May 27, 2017 • 9:33:32am

re: #204 jaunte

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The thing about the Constitution is, you have to make choices.

Also, the clause is not an opt-in one, is it?

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calochortus  May 27, 2017 • 9:34:03am

re: #343 BeachDem

I’m kind of amazed that all these people have never heard any of this before about Kushner’s father. It’s not like it’s been any big secret.

A lot of people aren’t news/political junkies. I heard a report on Kushner’s real estate company going after people for breaking their leases and whatnot (chump change for the company, often life-destroying for the former tenants.) Apparently most of the interviewed people didn’t have any idea who Kushner-their landlord-was until prompted by the reporter that he was married to Ivanka.

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Joe Bacon  May 27, 2017 • 9:34:38am

re: #351 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t so much care whether he’s legally responsible. He just needs locked up forever.

Sadly this is what happens when psychiatric hospitals and outpatient clinics are closed in the name of libertarianism and supply side tax cuts…

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 9:34:54am

re: #343 BeachDem

I’m kind of amazed that all these people have never heard any of this before about Kushner’s father. It’s not like it’s been any big secret.

I hadn’t heard of anything about Kushner’s father until a couple weeks ago. It is tough to keep up with every little aspect of the news.

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calochortus  May 27, 2017 • 9:35:53am

re: #351 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t so much care whether he’s legally responsible. He just needs locked up forever.

Well yes. But I was thinking of how to prevent this sort of thing without taking away the civil rights of people who won’t ever escalate to this level.

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BeachDem  May 27, 2017 • 9:37:07am

re: #276 Stanley Sea

He’s taking the limo from the stage for the 200’ distance to AF1.

10 hour flight home.

Kinda like Christie did when he went to his kid’s ball game.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 27, 2017 • 9:37:17am

re: #354 Joe Bacon

Sadly this is what happens when psychiatric hospitals and outpatient clinics are closed in the name of libertarianism and supply side tax cuts…

Well, yeah, but- this guy had felony convictions, and violated parole. Nuts or not, he is a criminal.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 27, 2017 • 9:37:40am

re: #298 Anymouse

Die In Jail
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lawhawk  May 27, 2017 • 9:39:41am

re: #246 JordanRules

Speaks partially to how horribly media covered the campaign and it’s players. No stone unturned for any Clinton affiliates and the Obamas and all their people.

People are now like wait what, Melania is Catholic, Son in Law from a very crooked Dad and there’s so much more folks don’t know.

The double standard on vetting was amazing. NYT especially guilty, he was from their backyard. They were uniquely positioned to do great work during the campaign. They did not and we’re all paying for it.

The Bergen Record did make mention of all this, and Christie’s role in Trumpworld was also critical, especially since Christie was the prosecutor who put Charles Kushner away. That makes for some seriously awkward meetings.

The Times saw all this as a sideshow, rather than illustrative of the moral and ethical rot surrounding Trump and his cronies.

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ObserverArt  May 27, 2017 • 9:39:44am

re: #277 Timothy Watson

Trump: Can I get your digits?

And then he finds out the number is fake.

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sagehen  May 27, 2017 • 9:40:42am

re: #343 BeachDem

I’m kind of amazed that all these people have never heard any of this before about Kushner’s father. It’s not like it’s been any big secret.

1. It was more than 10 years ago.

2. When you’re grading crooked-criminal-fuckery on a curve, NJ is in a league of their own.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 27, 2017 • 9:42:04am

re: #361 ObserverArt

And then he finds out the number is fake.

“At the tone, the time will be….”

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stpaulbear  May 27, 2017 • 9:43:02am

re: #358 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, yeah, but- this guy had felony convictions, and violated parole. Nuts or not, he is a criminal.

And he should have been in jail for his multiple parole violations. It sounds like a judge let him off the hook for a couple of those. I hope that judge feels like shit today.

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 9:44:12am

re: #337 A Cranky One

Mrs. Cranky has a gift. Beautiful.

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 9:45:10am

re: #339 lawhawk

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I want photos!!!!

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Joe Bacon  May 27, 2017 • 9:45:36am

re: #360 lawhawk

The Bergen Record did make mention of all this, and Christie’s role in Trumpworld was also critical, especially since Christie was the prosecutor who put Charles Kushner away. That makes for some seriously awkward meetings.

The Times saw all this as a sideshow, rather than illustrative of the moral and ethical rot surrounding Trump and his cronies.

The New York Times and Washington Post both despised the Clintons from the get-go. Every lie the Republican Bullshit Machine fabricated about the Clintons was given front page treatment by both of those SNOOZEpapers. And they still continue to trash them.

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makeitstop  May 27, 2017 • 9:45:38am

re: #359 Unshaken Defiance

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He looks like a cross between Alex Jones and Glenn Danzig.

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ObserverArt  May 27, 2017 • 9:46:03am

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I was just thinking of the huge amount of people gathered at the airport glad to see Trump off and hoping he never sets foot in Europe again.

What a disgrace his presence is for everyone. Worldwide.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 9:46:13am

At this point, should we start naming Trump Administration scandals like hurricanes, with names?

If we run out of a list of names, we move on to the Greek alphabet (like the 2005 hurricane season)

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Barefoot Grin  May 27, 2017 • 9:47:44am

re: #293 nines09

“I am excited for the great adventures and achievements that all of us will accomplish together,”

So you are in the service. In a European nation. Your President shows up and spills that from his mouth. How do you feel?

“It will be an honor to die for you, Sir.” ///

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Joe Bacon  May 27, 2017 • 9:48:03am

re: #370 Anymouse

At this point, should we start naming Trump Administration scandals like hurricanes, with names?

If we run out of a list of names, we move on to the Greek alphabet (like the 2005 hurricane season)

We’ll run out of Greek and Cyrillic letters by the end of next week.

We will then have to go to Chinese characters which we will again run out of by the end of next month…

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FormerDirtDart  May 27, 2017 • 9:48:03am
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Joe Bacon  May 27, 2017 • 9:48:50am

re: #373 FormerDirtDart

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…but it won’t stop brainwashed masses from blaming Obama…

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 9:49:20am

re: #363 Blind Frog Belly White

“At the tone, the time will be….”

“Why do I get charged $15 a minute on this call to Emmanuel Macron - what’s a 976 number got to do with it?”

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Jay C  May 27, 2017 • 9:51:13am

re: #372 Joe Bacon

We’ll run out of Greek and Cyrillic letters by the end of next week.

We will then have to go to Chinese characters which we will again run out of by the end of next month…

There also the Hebrew and Arabic alphabets to pick from, but with this Administration, I think it would be a better idea just to use numbers (what are we on, Trump Scandal # 20? And it’s only 4 months in?).

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wrenchwench  May 27, 2017 • 9:51:25am

re: #337 A Cranky One

OT: Something pleasant

So Mrs Cranky’s garden is awake and starting it’s regular show. Grabbed a few cell phone camera pictures to share.

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One of these days I’ll learn to stay quiet. ;-)

I’d have to walk all over a couple of neighborhoods to see those flowers! (Or ones I can’t distinguish from those.) But the porcelain, every yard around here has some!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 27, 2017 • 9:51:25am

re: #132 freetoken

Holy crap. I listened up to, “the earth is center of the universe and light started here and….”, and then my brain shut down in self defense.

Gah.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 9:51:43am

re: #375 Anymouse

“Why do I get charged $15 a minute on this call to Emmanuel Macron - what’s a 976 number got to do with it?”

976 numbers still exist?!

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I cannot.  May 27, 2017 • 9:51:51am

re: #375 Anymouse

“Why do I get charged $15 a minute on this call to Emmanuel Macron - what’s a 976 number got to do with it?”

Do 976 numbers even exist anymore?

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calochortus  May 27, 2017 • 9:53:40am

re: #374 Joe Bacon

…but it won’t stop brainwashed masses from blaming Obama…

It is starting to hit the news. I’m sure Faux won’t cover it, but people may well begin to hear about it elsewhere.

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nines09  May 27, 2017 • 9:55:52am

re: #343 BeachDem

I wasn’t all that plugged in back at that time. I wasn’t aware of it. More a regional (NY) thing. Just like today, lots of people not plugged in. Busy working 70 hours a week raising a family.

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 9:56:22am
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calochortus  May 27, 2017 • 10:00:28am

As much as I’d enjoy hanging out here all morning, stuff needs to be done.
BBL

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Jay C  May 27, 2017 • 10:00:35am

re: #375 Anymouse

“Mr. President: we have that private number President Macron gave you”
“Dial it for me”

*beep* *beep* *beep* *click*

“‘Allo cherie! Zees ees Babette, and I ‘ave chust been waitink for you to call me!. As soon as you geeve me your credeet card numbair, we can start our leetle convairsation….”

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A Cranky One  May 27, 2017 • 10:00:54am

re: #377 wrenchwench

I’d have to walk all over a couple of neighborhoods to see those flowers! (Or ones I can’t distinguish from those.) But the porcelain, every yard around here has some!

Ha. Didn’t realize it was a common thing. Just tell me they don’t use old toilets (I’m now carefully avoiding any such suggestion). ;-)

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Amory Blaine  May 27, 2017 • 10:01:11am

re: #337 A Cranky One

Hee Hee. Now that’s funny.

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ObserverArt  May 27, 2017 • 10:01:51am

re: #355 Anymouse

I hadn’t heard of anything about Kushner’s father until a couple weeks ago. It is tough to keep up with every little aspect of the news.

That is why this place is so good. You can watch a lot of stuff come through these threads. Links to almost every aspect to all sides of a story. Sure it takes time to sift through it, but you can at least get a feel for what is going on just from the takes on what is linked. A great filter is Little Green Footballs.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 27, 2017 • 10:02:34am

re: #356 calochortus

Well yes. But I was thinking of how to prevent this sort of thing without taking away the civil rights of people who won’t ever escalate to this level.

When you look at these individuals closely, those that just rant vs those that get violent there are differences. There is an excellent book that teaches all this chapter and verse. CL put me onto it. I read it several times. The Gift Of Fear. Gavin De Becker.

It is getting more hazardous on public transit by way of my own experience. I have witnessed or brushed with low level violence more in the last three years than the last fifteen. More homeless, more mentally disturbed, more on drugs they should not be or not on those they should be.. It’s also a very tough and vulnerable place to get in a jam. No way out, crowded. Hard objects everywhere by way of seats and handrails. Train, subway, bus. The subway is especially tough, no cell service in a lot of it. No help between stations.

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Timothy Watson  May 27, 2017 • 10:03:17am

re: #385 Jay C

“Mr. President: we have that private number President Macron gave you”
“Dial it for me”

*beep* *beep* *beep* *click*

“‘Allo cherie! Zees ees Babette, and I ‘ave chust been waitink for you to call me!. As soon as you geeve me your credeet card numbair, we can start our leetle convairsation….”

Evidence that there is a Seinfeld clip for everything:

DENIM VEST

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 10:05:27am

re: #379 Dr Lizardo

re: #380 I cannot.

Yes, they still exist. Mostly used by “psychic hotlines” and sex chats, voting for television or radio shows, and other such things.

A Supreme Court decision allowed a regulation to go in place that required people to “opt-in” to be able to dial 976 numbers after a child in California allegedly ran up thousands of dollars of calls in a month.

Scams are still perpetrated using the area code for the Caribbean - the call then redirects to a 976 number running up telephone charges (cramming). AT&T in 2014 settled for over $100 million in such a case.

Software also exists (though less common now) that will take a computer’s dialer and call 976 numbers without the knowledge of the computer owner, running up telephone charges.

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wrenchwench  May 27, 2017 • 10:06:47am

re: #386 A Cranky One

Ha. Didn’t realize it was a common thing. Just tell me they don’t use old toilets (I’m now carefully avoiding any such suggestion). ;-)

Mainly toilets. I’m not in the greatest neighborhood. The worst offender is the Habitat for Humanity secondhand yard [sorry, DD, still a fan]. It’s better than all the diesel trucks that used to park there and stink up the area every morning, but the weedy elms around the chain link fence don’t hide much.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 10:08:22am

Comment at Wonkette:

SCORECARDS! SCORECARDS! GET YOUR SCORECARDS! CAN’T KEEP TRACK OF TRUMP SCANDALS WITHOUT YOUR SCORECARDS!

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451_Montag  May 27, 2017 • 10:09:03am

I really don’t want Trump’s mental health to come in to play. It gives the entire RW a get out of jail free card. Well yes Trump was wrong but he was also mental gives them cover they don’t deserve. Nothing will make Russia go away quicker “a few bad eggs led by a senile old man, let’s put this behind us” bullshit.

Hang it all round their fucking necks, make them own it, then throw them a anchor.

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FormerDirtDart  May 27, 2017 • 10:10:01am
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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 10:10:03am

Fuck, I guess you just go ahead & post them

Trump’s Food and Drug Administration delayed the rule just four days before it was supposed to go into effect this month, jolting food purveyors from steakhouses to convenience stores who’d already been trying to comply. And even though the FDA touted the delay as a way to reduce costs and increase flexibility for businesses, the change did not come early enough to save these companies any money. Many had already spent millions of dollars printing and shipping new menus to thousands of locations across the country so they would be ready for the original May 5 deadline.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 10:10:09am

re: #391 Anymouse

Yes, they still exist. Mostly used by “psychic hotlines” and sex chats, voting for television or radio shows, and other such things.

A Supreme Court decision allowed a regulation to go in place that required people to “opt-in” to be able to dial 976 numbers after a child in California allegedly ran up thousands of dollars of calls in a month.

Scams are still perpetrated using the area code for the Caribbean - the call then redirects to a 976 number running up telephone charges (cramming). AT&T in 2014 settled for over $100 million in such a case.

Software also exists (though less common now) that will take a computer’s dialer and call 976 numbers without the knowledge of the computer owner, running up telephone charges.

I learn something new every day.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 10:11:46am

re: #394 451_Montag

I really don’t want Trump’s mental health to come in to play. It gives the entire RW a get out of jail free card. Well yes Trump was wrong but he was also mental gives them cover they don’t deserve. Nothing will make Russia go away quicker “a few bad eggs led by a senile old man, let’s put this behind us” bullshit.

Hang it all round their fucking necks, make them own it, then throw them a anchor.

Well I gotta admit, that’s a potential GOP strategy for when/if it all comes crashing down that I never considered

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nines09  May 27, 2017 • 10:12:18am

re: #389 Unshaken Defiance

I rode elevated and subway in Philly in the 60’s and 70’s. Much more violent. Always get close to the door between cars or by the engineer in suspect situations. Know your neighborhoods. ALWAYS case your fellow passengers and who gets on and off. It will serve you well.

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wrenchwench  May 27, 2017 • 10:12:25am

My Master Spy keeps quitting. How can I go on?!?!?

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 10:13:09am

re: #398 Dr Lizardo

Well I gotta admit, that’s a potential GOP strategy for when/if it all comes crashing down that I never considered

And the response is something along the line of “and you let your party be taken over by a crazy person. What sort of judgement do you have, anyway? Why should we trust you with something dangerous like a budget?”

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 10:14:49am
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451_Montag  May 27, 2017 • 10:16:34am

re: #401 Anymouse

And the response is something along the line of “and you let your party be taken over by a crazy person. What sort of judgement do you have, anyway? Why should we trust you with something dangerous like a budget?”

I hope so, but the media? They’d run with it, in the interests of “sympathy”

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 10:19:52am

re: #403 451_Montag

I hope so, but the media? They’d run with it, in the interests of “sympathy”

Adverts.

“Rep. Jones endorsed Donald Trump during the election, and his party now says that Mr. Trump was unstable.”

(cut to pictures of hospitals, national parks, schools, playing children, &c)

If Rep. Jones is willing to endorse an unstable man to get his agenda through, do you trust him with your [grandma/child/hospitals/parks]

[scene]

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FormerDirtDart  May 27, 2017 • 10:22:34am

I know it’s not completely rational, but every year this annoys me more and more…

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 10:25:33am

re: #405 FormerDirtDart

I know it’s not completely rational, but every year this annoys me more and more…

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It has always annoyed me since I was old enough to know the difference - about eight. (Maybe because I am a military brat and vet myself.)

Hence my avatar. (I change my avatar to a poppy near Veterans Day in the places I post.)

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Amory Blaine  May 27, 2017 • 10:26:21am

re: #400 wrenchwench

Check out the manual controls. It’s in the safety literature.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 10:29:10am

Trump cancels Nuremberg Iowa rally.

thehill.com

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 10:30:27am

Maybe he was just told he was supposed to be at Arlington and not “campaigning?” The release said it was “unforeseen.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 27, 2017 • 10:31:01am

re: #409 Anymouse

Maybe he was just told he was supposed to be at Arlington and not “campaigning?” The release said it was “unforeseen.”

Or maybe he doesn’t want to be out in public, where he might have to deal with reality.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 10:34:56am

re: #408 Anymouse

Trump cancels Nuremberg Iowa rally.

thehill.com

“Have you heard the tragedy of Darth Trumpius the unwise? It’s not a story the conservative media would tell you. Ironic….he could pardon others, but not himself.”

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 10:36:39am
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I cannot.  May 27, 2017 • 10:37:19am

re: #411 Dr Lizardo

Objection to using “Darth”…Sith Lords were intelligent and cunning. Trump is neither.

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TedStriker  May 27, 2017 • 10:40:18am

re: #413 I cannot.

Objection to using “Darth”…Sith Lords were intelligent and cunning. Trump is neither.

I like Steve Shives’ term for Trump: Lord Dampnut.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 10:40:22am

re: #413 I cannot.

Objection to using “Darth”…Sith Lords were intelligent and cunning. Trump is neither.

Darth Cheney, yes.

Some of Trump’s stuff doesn’t even rise to the level of Derp Trump.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 10:41:32am

re: #408 Anymouse

Trump cancels Nuremberg Iowa rally.

thehill.com

The Trumpkins deflecting in the comments there are extremely stupid. I expect them to get worst as more of the merely stupid realize what Trump is.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 10:43:37am
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nines09  May 27, 2017 • 10:43:40am

Sun just came out. I’m going to take a picture of it. So I can remember what it looks like. Have a great day all. Painting is calling me….my wife actually…..to paint…..and I better listen…did I mention………………. I hate to paint? Later

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Myron Falwell  May 27, 2017 • 10:46:53am

re: #297 Anymouse

Tomi Lahren being, well, Tomi again …

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Remember that Glenn Beck Clarabelle the Human Hemorrhoid fired Tomi from The Smolder because she fessed to being pro-choice.

She wasn’t nutty enough to satisfy Glenn Beck.

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2017 • 10:47:41am

Ho Boy……

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 10:48:37am

re: #416 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The Trumpkins deflecting in the comments there are extremely stupid. I expect them to get worst as more of the merely stupid realize what Trump is.

I can’t get Disqus to load to read them. “Taking too long?” Perhaps that’s a good thing that Disqus is borked for me or I would tear into a few comments.

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FormerDirtDart  May 27, 2017 • 10:48:51am
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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 10:49:55am

We’ve got photos!

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 10:52:37am

re: #423 Stanley Sea

We’ve got photos!

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Ahahaha……looks like snuck a photo when Trump wasn’t looking.

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2017 • 10:53:18am
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Skandal  May 27, 2017 • 10:54:40am
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Barefoot Grin  May 27, 2017 • 10:55:49am

Still 25 minutes for Arsenal to break our hearts.

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Birth Control Works  May 27, 2017 • 10:57:48am

Now we have a connection between Trump and Illegal Money;

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Birth Control Works  May 27, 2017 • 10:58:30am

re: #426 Dave In Austin

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was was shown to be a white supremacist —right?

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2017 • 10:59:54am

re: #430 Birth Control Works

was was shown to be a white supremacist —right?

More like career criminal. But yeah, that too.

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Teukka  May 27, 2017 • 11:00:30am

re: #430 Birth Control Works

was was shown to be a white supremacist —right?

Yeah, so nutty that people at an alt-right rally went “he’s not with us”. Not excusing his behavior by means of insanity, rather pointing out the insanity which is the alt-right.

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2017 • 11:01:01am

What’s the deal with all these Nazis in Portland all of a sudden?

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Teukka  May 27, 2017 • 11:01:54am

re: #430 Birth Control Works

was was shown to be a white supremacist —right?

re: #431 Dave In Austin

More like career criminal. But yeah, that too.

Daeshbags have had a large influx of career criminals to their ranks, but it is a recurring theme, the unholy trinity of terrorism, organized crime and extremism.

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 11:02:52am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 11:02:53am

re: #433 Dave In Austin

What’s the deal with all these Nazis in Portland all of a sudden?

Too many white people in one place with no exposure to minorities to help reduce their terrible racism.

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Birth Control Works  May 27, 2017 • 11:03:54am

Prison —lots of indoctrination happens there.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 11:04:01am

re: #421 Anymouse

I can’t get Disqus to load to read them. “Taking too long?” Perhaps that’s a good thing that Disqus is borked for me or I would tear into a few comments.

Disqus let me in. Am now in the cage match there.

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 11:08:53am
“…Ms. Trump and Mr. Kushner have complained privately about what he views as an unfair level of scrutiny of his actions. He has dismissed the attention on him as a reflection of his father-in-law’s unconventional approach to diplomacy and inexperience in government, rather than anything nefarious he has done.”
nytimes.com

Up yours, Javanka.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 27, 2017 • 11:09:41am

re: #439 jaunte

Up yours, Javanka.

You know what those of us in Middle America call these kinds of people? SPOILED ROTTEN BRATS.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 11:10:38am

re: #424 Birth Control Works

Illinois emergency call centers could lose funding if lawmakers don’t act

This is the same state that for some time couldn’t fund it’s lotto thanks to its Republican governor.

Well, I guess Illinois will see what it’s like to go without 911 - we didn’t have 911 service here until 2012 at all.

Break out the card to put next to your telephone with the fire, police, ambulance, &c. (Mine’s still up by my telephone because I am too lazy to take it down.)

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 11:10:52am
“…Aides are talking about bringing Corey Lewandowski, Mr. Trump’s former campaign manager, and David Bossie, his former deputy campaign manager, onto the White House staff to manage the war room.

Under the evolving scenario, Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, would take a diminished public role, with daily on-camera briefings replaced by more limited interactions with journalists, while Mr. Trump would seize more opportunities to communicate directly with his core supporters through campaign rallies, social media appearances such as Facebook Live videos, and interviews with friendly news media outlets.

The president, who has more than 30 million followers on Twitter, has been told by his lawyers to limit his posts. Each one, they argue privately, could be used as evidence in a legal case against him, and the president went through his entire overseas trip without posting a single incendiary message.”
nytimes.com

Looks like they have the crisis management tactics well thought out.

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FormerDirtDart  May 27, 2017 • 11:11:06am

re: #433 Dave In Austin

What’s the deal with all these Nazis in Portland all of a sudden?

Northwest Territorial Imperative
over 30 years in the making

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 11:13:56am

re: #433 Dave In Austin

What’s the deal with all these Nazis in Portland all of a sudden?

They’ve always been there. After the murder of Mulugeta Seraw back in 1988, they went to ground. en.wikipedia.org

I used to live in Portland, in the 1990s, and my girlfriend at the time was African-American. We would get some hostile stares from time to time, but that was the extent of it.

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Birth Control Works  May 27, 2017 • 11:14:07am

WE ARE NOT GOING BACK

going to see a movie with my kid

bbl

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 11:15:11am

re: #443 FormerDirtDart

Northwest Territorial Imperative
over 30 years in the making

Posse Comitatus started in Portland as well, back in 1969. en.wikipedia.org

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2017 • 11:17:52am
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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 11:18:45am

re: #444 Dr Lizardo

They’ve always been there. After the murder of Mulugeta Seraw back in 1988, they went to ground. en.wikipedia.org

I used to live in Portland, in the 1990s, and my girlfriend at the time was African-American. We would get some hostile stares from time to time, but that was the extent of it.

That was the case where the SPLC bankrupted Metzger.

Thanks for the info.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2017 • 11:19:34am

re: #448 Stanley Sea

That was the case where the SPLC bankrupted Metzger.

Thanks for the info.

Yes, indeed.

Back later.

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 11:20:12am
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thecommodore  May 27, 2017 • 11:21:35am
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 27, 2017 • 11:22:23am

Mrs. FBW has come down with a nasty bug, so we went to Urgent Care, where they did a Flu swab.

Nurse comes in, and announces she has ‘Flu B’.

And this was all I could think of…..

YouTube

She’s now on Tamiflu, Advil, Mucinex, and rest.

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2017 • 11:22:57am
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BigPapa  May 27, 2017 • 11:25:12am

Here’s some delightful Saturday Apocalypse Humor:

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 27, 2017 • 11:29:00am

Yeah. That’ll fucking work.

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jaunte  May 27, 2017 • 11:31:49am
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BigPapa  May 27, 2017 • 11:32:00am
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Barefoot Grin  May 27, 2017 • 11:32:09am

Arsenal—FA Cup winners over Chelsea! Doesn’t salvage season, but certainly helps.

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BeachDem  May 27, 2017 • 11:33:33am

Jim Bunning has died.

rawstory.com

I’ll try to remember his baseball career and not his political one.

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2017 • 11:33:57am

My Father…..

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caseyjr  May 27, 2017 • 11:38:23am

re: #436 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Too many white people in one place with no exposure to minorities to help reduce their terrible racism.

La la la la “economic anxiety” la la la la.

463
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 27, 2017 • 11:45:05am

re: #462 Stanley Sea

“We have nothing.”

Trump’s presidency in a nutshell.

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 11:46:44am

They’ve got troubles, lots of troubles

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 11:46:56am
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BeachDem  May 27, 2017 • 11:48:01am

re: #464 Stanley Sea

They’ve got troubles, lots of troubles

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And yet Maggie couldn’t get through the article without relating it to Bill Clinton, of course.

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 11:49:04am
468
Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 11:50:56am
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Scout  May 27, 2017 • 11:55:15am

This golf cart thing … my gut is telling me it’s big. Big, as in Trump is actually ill. Maybe just a virus that will pass quickly, or something worse.

On the other hand, if Mrs. Clinton rode such a short distance, no one would make a big deal out it. /
/

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 11:55:43am

Nap time, y’all. Catch everyone later (you poor devils).

Leaving you with a guinea pig (I had a guinea pig that drank black coffee at one time):

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 27, 2017 • 12:01:45pm

re: #467 Anymouse

When a Trumpkin says something that stupid they get destroyed in the replies.

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caseyjr  May 27, 2017 • 12:03:10pm

-snort-

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ObserverArt  May 27, 2017 • 12:04:48pm

re: #456 jaunte

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So sad.

Taliesin Meche is a true patriot. Someone that stood up for someone else’s rights instead of wanting to tear them down as a bigot and hater. And he paid for it with his life as did another.

To me they are just as much soldiers as anyone in the military and should be remembered this weekend.

Trump needs to be tied to all of this and he needs to own it as do those that voted for him.

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 12:06:38pm

Even though this one is great, I’m not going to change my avi - it was given to me by CL.

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ObserverArt  May 27, 2017 • 12:09:44pm

re: #464 Stanley Sea

They’ve got troubles, lots of troubles

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Acting like a bunch of young kids caught stealing beer at the carry out.

“Hey lets have my uncle call the cops and say we were at his house all night.”

(Uncle is a known petty criminal and no cop in 150 miles would buy anything he says)

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Anymouse  May 27, 2017 • 12:12:16pm

British Airways struck with a catastrophic computer crash that has grounded flights around the world.

bbc.com

The problems have affected BA call centres, the website and the mobile app.

Aviation expert Julian Bray said: “It’s frozen the whole system so no British Airways plane can actually take off, they can’t move the baggage, they can’t issue passenger credentials, in fact they can’t do anything at all.

“This is a very serious problem, they should have been able to switch to an alternative system - surely British Airways should be able to do this.”

Malcolm Ginsberg, editor in chief at Business Travel News, expects the disruption to last for “three or four days”.

Air industry consultant John Strickland said the backlog of aircraft was “a choreographic nightmare”.

(more at the BBC)

I’m guessing their software isn’t ready for self-driving cars, though computers have been used in aviation almost my entire life.

Maybe if we had flying cars.

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goddamnedfrank  May 27, 2017 • 12:17:00pm
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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2017 • 12:22:10pm

re: #443 FormerDirtDart

Northwest Territorial Imperative
over 30 years in the making

Now I know where to set a vampire story I’ve had percolating.

Racist swine try to bother my vampires when they’re travelling through that area. You can guess what happens.

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 12:23:51pm

re: #477 goddamnedfrank

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I’m getting the spinning wheel of death trying to link to Empty Wheel.

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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2017 • 12:25:21pm

re: #456 jaunte

There’s a place in Valhalla or any other place that honours selfless people waiting for that young man.

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Stanley Sea  May 27, 2017 • 12:26:11pm

re: #479 Stanley Sea

I’m getting the spinning wheel of death trying to link to Empty Wheel.

Just loaded!

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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2017 • 12:26:49pm

re: #460 Dave In Austin

Guadalcanal. Now there’s a name that always makes me shiver.

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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2017 • 12:30:16pm

re: #472 caseyjr

Never thought I’d see the day when David Frum was a voice of reason.

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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2017 • 12:32:03pm

re: #476 Anymouse

Maybe if we had flying cars.

Can you say “Aluminum shower”?

I knew you could.

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2017 • 12:32:58pm

re: #482 Romantic Heretic

Yep, he was an aid to Chesty Puller and a Logistics officer. Lost a leg on Peleliu.

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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2017 • 12:37:46pm

re: #485 Dave In Austin

Very cool.

He must have known Samuel B. Griffith who wrote the definitive book on Gudalcanal as well as an excellent translation of Sun Tzu’s Art of War.

So many people from that era I would have loved to meet and spend a long afternoon talking to.

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Timothy Watson  May 27, 2017 • 12:41:36pm

re: #405 FormerDirtDart

I know it’s not completely rational, but every year this annoys me more and more…

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I know some World War II vets hated when Congress changed the date to be on a Monday an excuse to create a three-day weekend.


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