Congressional Probe Into Russian Interference Widens to Include Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen

And Trump’s communications director bails out
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Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen is now a focus of the Congressional investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Trump lawyer Michael Cohen confirmed to NBC News that he has received requests for information from the Senate and House intelligence committees as part of their probes into Russian interference in the U.S. election.

A Congressional aide said the request letters, first reported by ABC News, were the same ones sent to former Trump aides Carter Page, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Mike Flynn and others. Those letters sought information about Russian contacts, and asked the recipients to turn over any communications with the Trump campaign about Russia.

In the dossier on Trump prepared by former British spy Christopher Steele, Cohen was alleged to have attended a secret meeting in Prague to discuss Russia’s hacking of Democratic targets, something Cohen has adamantly denied to NBC News and others in the past.

And in what may be the start of a major exodus of rats from the Trump gang’s sinking ship, White House communications director Michael Dubke has resigned.

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 10:38:14am

Says who!!!!!

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Dr. Matt  May 30, 2017 • 10:39:25am
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:39:49am

Leaving to spend more time with his lawyers errr big guys named Yuri and Ivan who will rush you just by looking at them wrong.

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lawhawk  May 30, 2017 • 10:40:02am

I’m not sure we’ll see an exodus just yet. Again, it goes to Trump valuing loyalty over all else, including competence, knowledge, and skill.

People like Cohen have been in Trump’s orbit long enough to know that they’re rewarded for loyalty, so there’s incentive to stick around as long as possible. A few might realize that they’re dancing with the devil in the pale moon light, and that cutting a deal with prosecutors makes more sense than hoping Trump will offer you any kind of assistance down the road (pardon or otherwise).

The same goes for Manafort, Flynn, and Kushner, and the administration’s approach to the Kushner news from over the weekend has been one of avoidance, followed by denial, and then baffling with BS. Expect to see a lot more of this.

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Mike Lamb  May 30, 2017 • 10:40:13am

We’re keeping track all wrong. Need the list of people that aren’t involved. Much easier.

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Dr. Matt  May 30, 2017 • 10:40:47am

re: #5 Mike Lamb

We’re keeping track all wrong. Need the list of people that aren’t involved. Much easier.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 10:41:14am

Pulled this tweet forward, out of pure love:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 10:42:05am
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:42:28am

re: #5 Mike Lamb

We’re keeping track all wrong. Need the list of people that aren’t involved. Much easier.

Barron, Spicey, & Bob the guy who puts ketchup on Trump’s steaks.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:43:12am

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FNC to Trump WH: You’re making our job harder!

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lawhawk  May 30, 2017 • 10:43:30am

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

If you can’t win on facts or logic, baffle ‘em with bullshit.

That’s the Trump strategy, and he hasn’t been entirely wrong. Enough of his supporters buy the bullshit that his support remains at or above 80% among self-identified GOPers.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:43:59am

re: #11 lawhawk

If you can’t win on facts or logic, baffle ‘em with bullshit.

That’s the Trump strategy, and he hasn’t been entirely wrong. Enough of his supporters buy the bullshit that his support remains at or above 80% among self-identified GOPers.

Yep. Sigh.

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Talking Point Detective  May 30, 2017 • 10:44:26am

This is now:

Washington (CNN)One of President Donald Trump’s personal attorneys, Michael Cohen, has received an “invitation to provide information and testimony” that pertains to the Russia investigation to House and Senate intelligence committees, Cohen has confirmed.

“I declined the invitation to participate, as the request was poorly phrased, overly broad and not capable of being answered,” Cohen told CNN Tuesday, adding that he considered it a “total fishing expedition.”

This was then:

President Trump on Thursday called out Susan Rice for refusing to testify before a Senate committee investigating both Russian meddling in the 2016 election and allegations of Obama-era spying on Team Trump.

“Susan Rice, the former National Security Advisor to President Obama, is refusing to testify before a Senate Subcommittee next week on allegations of unmasking Trump transition officials. Not good!” Trump wrote in a pair of tweets.

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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 10:44:42am
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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 10:45:06am
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ObserverArt  May 30, 2017 • 10:48:09am

Just did this post in honor of Curious Lurker in the old thread…want to post it again because Chris Cillizza is such a dick. He wonders if anyone talked about Gianforte choking and body slamming a reporter over the holiday weekend.

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Hey Cillizza…

It’s hard to keep up with all the bad shit that is going on due to Trump.

Maybe we get side-tracked from something like a politician choking a media person by things like a Trump supporter attacking women on a public bus and then slashing the throats of guys trying to help them.

Maybe we see the ugliness of Trump in Europe and are stunned by what that means for world stability and it causes us to talk about all that.

But we will never forget it, just can’t talk about it 24/7/52 like you did about Clinton emails.

Damn, I sure can understand why you never answered my email to you about those emails. You couldn’t give a straight answer because you are a fucking punk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 10:48:28am
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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 10:50:05am

I was honorably CL’d.

Here’s my q:

Was he paid by the campaign? Will he be able to invoke privilege if so?

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:50:18am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Don’t do it Darrell! You have too many witchunts to live for! Seriously though, they mock us for safe spaces. At least our elected officials can face tough questions.

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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 10:52:35am
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:53:46am

re: #20 darthstar

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Shape by blackmailing. Were fucking cucks for Putin now.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:54:37am

Trump is Putin’s playtoy.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 10:54:40am
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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 10:55:41am

re: #20 darthstar

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I’d say last week went some way toward validating that idea.

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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 10:56:21am

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Shape by blackmailing. Were fucking cucks for Putin now.

Fucking cucks to a bunch of cucking fucks. (that actually works)

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covfefe  May 30, 2017 • 10:57:02am

Dead thread posted a response to wench re: saving Twitter gifs.

I use this site (which isn’t always up):

tweet2gif.com

Just copy/paste the link to the tweet and it does the rest. :)

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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 10:57:14am

re: #24 Barefoot Grin

I’d say last week went some way toward validating that idea.

Yeah…the US getting back-benched on security issues and trust is going to leave a mark.

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 10:57:30am
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Timothy Watson  May 30, 2017 • 10:59:42am

re: #28 Kragar

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Asshole has the gall to take photos or video.

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2017 • 10:59:56am

Nothing to see here! fake news! Dems should make Senate vote 51! Do it immediately! Dems just complain lost election!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 11:00:01am

re: #4 lawhawk

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2017 • 11:00:54am

re: #23 Stanley Sea

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A good letter.

Sadly it is being addressed to the person that is greatly responsible for what happened.

Trump won’t care. It goes against what he is really doing…building resentment and making this country uncomfortable for all those he and his hateful backers want to drive out.

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2017 • 11:03:14am

re: #13 Talking Point Detective

That was different because

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 11:04:28am
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caseyjr  May 30, 2017 • 11:09:17am

re: #6 Dr. Matt

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Will need to augment Leavenworth with a Trump wing.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 11:09:24am

re: #25 darthstar

Fucking cucks to a bunch of cucking fucks. (that actually works)

Ha yes, yes it does.

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austin_blue  May 30, 2017 • 11:11:25am

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Shape by blackmailing. Were fucking cucks for Putin now.

“Not a puppet! Not a puppet! You’re the puppet!”

Makes sense now, doesn’t it?

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Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2017 • 11:11:27am

re: #20 darthstar

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It’s the Trump Org knowingly and wilfully engaging in money-laundering. And I’ll bet the Russians have either audio, video (think ABSCAM) or documents that could prove it in a US court of law.

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Belafon  May 30, 2017 • 11:14:35am

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

It’s the Trump Org knowingly and wilfully engaging in money-laundering. And I’ll bet the Russians have either audio, video (think ABSCAM) or documents that could prove it in a US court of law.

And I bet every non-Russian spy agency is searching for those.

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caseyjr  May 30, 2017 • 11:16:03am

re: #28 Kragar

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Issa’s last concert, socal rooftop, May ‘17.

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Timothy Watson  May 30, 2017 • 11:18:48am
The police officer who shot and killed 12-year-old Tamir Rice was fired Tuesday for inaccuracies on his job application, while the officer who drove the patrol car the day of the November 2014 shooting was suspended in the case for violating a tactical rule.

Cleveland Police Chief Calvin Williams announced the discipline against officers Timothy Loehmann and Frank Garmback, who were involved in the fatal shooting of the boy at a recreation center as he held a pellet gun.

Loehmann, who shot Rice, was fired for inaccuracies on his application form, Williams said.

richmond.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 11:20:06am

Republican senator from Kansas:

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Belafon  May 30, 2017 • 11:20:19am
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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 11:22:13am

re: #40 caseyjr

Issa’s last concert, socal rooftop, May ‘17.

“Get back to where you once belonged.”

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FormerDirtDart  May 30, 2017 • 11:22:28am
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Timothy Watson  May 30, 2017 • 11:24:22am

Anyone watching Spicer? I have too much of a headache to do it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 11:25:01am

re: #46 Timothy Watson

Anyone watching Spicer? I have too much of a headache to do it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 11:26:23am
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thecommodore  May 30, 2017 • 11:26:44am

A new level of stupid, even for Lumpy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 11:27:31am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 11:27:46am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Vicious Babushka  May 30, 2017 • 11:28:17am
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SteelPH  May 30, 2017 • 11:28:20am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, it certainly was historic… historically awful.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 11:28:35am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 11:30:09am

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

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thecommodore  May 30, 2017 • 11:30:33am
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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2017 • 11:30:53am

re: #49 thecommodore

Wow…this is interesting…

— Sean Hannity

Hey, Sean, you got that Seth Rich story down pat now? What’s your latest scoop?

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 11:31:09am
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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2017 • 11:32:23am

re: #51 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Which one? Hastert? Tom DeLay? Newt? Paul Ryan?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 11:32:29am

re: #56 thecommodore

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bratwurst  May 30, 2017 • 11:32:29am

Hey, I wonder what a vacuous dickhead is thinking about today…

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2017 • 11:33:17am

re: #61 bratwurst

Hey, I wonder what a vacuous dickhead is thinking about today…

But you thought enough about it to tweet about it this morning, right Fix?

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Big Beautiful Door  May 30, 2017 • 11:33:42am

re: #11 lawhawk

If you can’t win on facts or logic, baffle ‘em with bullshit.

That’s the Trump strategy, and he hasn’t been entirely wrong. Enough of his supporters buy the bullshit that his support remains at or above 80% among self-identified GOPers.

Trump is the Bullshitter-in-Chief.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  May 30, 2017 • 11:33:55am

re: #61 bratwurst

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 11:34:09am

re: #61 bratwurst

Hey, I wonder what a vacuous dickhead is thinking about today…

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You can always spot a crackpot post by the replies to likes ratio.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 30, 2017 • 11:35:02am

AUTOMATIC. BLOCKING. FUNCTION. TRIGGERED.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 11:35:15am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 11:35:40am

re: #63 Big Beautiful Door

Trump is the Bullshitter-in-Chief.

And he was a bullshitting candidate. It was obvious to anyone with a working brain who watched him speak. It took some serious motivated-by-bigotry thinking to not notice that he’s utterly full of shit.

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Dr. Matt  May 30, 2017 • 11:37:22am
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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2017 • 11:38:06am

re: #65 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Why would even 363 people like that post? Maybe it’s a hit with the Russbots.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 11:38:23am

re: #34 Kragar

I just want to say that while I have no idea how the games are played or anything along those lines, I do enjoy seeing the painted models. :)

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 11:38:40am

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

[EmbeYes, this is really @DarrellIssa on the roof of his district office building. Too afraid to come speak with assembled constituents below.

If we all clap very hard, he can fly.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 11:39:01am
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Jebediah, RBG  May 30, 2017 • 11:39:16am

re: #40 caseyjr

Issa’s last concert, socal rooftop, May ‘17.

Embarrassingly, the crowd did not yell and clap for an encore.

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Dr. Matt  May 30, 2017 • 11:39:34am

Spicer just said an overwhelming majority of people elected Trump to be president.

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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 11:39:41am

re: #70 Sir John Barron

Why would even 363 people like that post? Maybe it’s a hit with the Russbots.

“Liking” a post also functions as a way to bookmark it for later reference/use/mockery.

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 11:42:04am

re: #73 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Trump will really get results when all of the former Soviet Union is back in Putin’s hands.

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2017 • 11:42:07am

re: #75 Dr. Matt

Spicer just said an overwhelming majority of people elected Trump to be president.

He won a lot of electoral colleges and there are lots of people in colleges.

///

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Eventual Carrion  May 30, 2017 • 11:42:59am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Does me sitting here yelling “JUMP, JUMP!” at my laptop screen make me a bad person?

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 11:43:33am

The last time Germany took its destiny into its own hands we had to put Pittsburgh, Detroit, and the Brooklyn Navy Yard on overtime.

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Dr. Matt  May 30, 2017 • 11:43:52am
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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 11:44:09am

re: #79 Eventual Carrion

Does me sitting here yelling “JUMP, JUMP!” at my laptop screen make me a bad person?

Not if you’re from NYC.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 30, 2017 • 11:44:28am

re: #75 Dr. Matt

Spicer just said an overwhelming majority of people elected Trump to be president.

He is using alternative math.

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 11:46:35am

re: #71 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I just want to say that while I have no idea how the games are played or anything along those lines, I do enjoy seeing the painted models. :)

They just announced the first big California tournament in years, and its being held in my town. Haven’t been able to attend a big show in years. Can’t wait.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 11:47:52am

re: #84 Kragar

They just announced the first big California tournament in years, and its being held in my town. Haven’t been able to attend a big show in years. Can’t wait.

That sounds awesome. I am hoping for actual winning and not DT-style winning.

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 11:49:47am

And today’s MBF award goes to…

John Berman, CNN. “Analyzing” threats and violence:

“The chairman of the Democratic Party, Tom Perez, is now swearing regularly,” Berman remarked. “I know swearing isn’t hitting. But he’s purposefully using naughty words to make his point.”

People are getting their throats slashed, but Tom Perez is using NAUGHTY WORDS, folks.

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Belafon  May 30, 2017 • 11:50:16am

re: #73 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Poisoning your followers also gets results, but I wouldn’t tout that as a good thing.

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 11:50:41am

re: #85 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That sounds awesome. I am hoping for actual winning and not DT-style winning.

I’m not holding out for any painting awards. Some of the guys out there are just crazy. I’m just going to run in the gaming tournament and see how I do.

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2017 • 11:51:40am

re: #86 BeachDem

And today’s MBF award goes to…

John Berman, CNN. “Analyzing” threats and violence:

“The chairman of the Democratic Party, Tom Perez, is now swearing regularly,” Berman remarked. “I know swearing isn’t hitting. But he’s purposefully using naughty words to make his point.”

People are getting their throats slashed, but Tom Perez is using NAUGHTY WORDS, folks.

Tell CNN to give us a call when Perez talks about “moving on that b**** because he’s famous and can do whatever the **** he wants” because he’s rich.

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Timothy Watson  May 30, 2017 • 11:52:05am

re: #86 BeachDem

And today’s MBF award goes to…

John Berman, CNN. “Analyzing” threats and violence:

“The chairman of the Democratic Party, Tom Perez, is now swearing regularly,” Berman remarked. “I know swearing isn’t hitting. But he’s purposefully using naughty words to make his point.”

People are getting their throats slashed, but Tom Perez is using NAUGHTY WORDS, folks.

“naughty words”? Is he four years old? “Mommy! Daddy used a naughty word!”

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piratedan  May 30, 2017 • 11:52:20am

re: #86 BeachDem

well maybe Mr. Berman, if your peers hadn’t normalized a guy who stated that he did sexual assault for fun, maybe I could find some outrage that a Democrat is fucking pissed off, but you sir, have no fucking soap box to stand on, so Good Day SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2017 • 11:52:56am

re: #92 piratedan

well maybe Mr. Berman, if your peers hadn’t normalized a guy who stated that he did sexual assault for fun, maybe I could find some outrage that a Democrat is fucking pissed off, but you sir, have no fucking soap box to stand on, so Good Day SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU GET NOTHING!

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TedStriker  May 30, 2017 • 11:53:27am

re: #90 Dr. Matt

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Damn, that’s cold as ice…

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Timothy Watson  May 30, 2017 • 11:54:38am

re: #94 TedStriker

Damn, that’s cold as ice…

*hums Foreigner*

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 11:54:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 11:54:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 11:57:33am

Fiona gets to explore the outdoor habitat for the first time this evening after the zoo closes for the day.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 12:00:29pm

Observation on the Chuck Woolery thing:

Lenin was ancestrally Jewish on his mother’s side and likely it was never discussed because of the implications in the cultural milieu. He was raised Russian Orthodox and at one point he was in a seminary. Karl Marx was ancestrally Jewish on his father’s side, but raised in a household that had converted to Lutheranism.

So either Chuck is stupid or Chuck is claiming there’s some kind of ephemeral “Jewish” quality that persists (in the form of Communism) across generations. My money’s on the gif of the kid saying “Why not both?”

Thing is, this is an example of systemic antisemitism regardless of intentions. It hearkens all the way back to the mistrust of conversos in Spain (and likely even before that, but my knowledge is not comprehensive), but more explicitly echoes the reasoning used by the Tsarist Russians and the German National Socialists.

In short: this is a claim made by garbage people, for garbage reasons, with garbage evidence. That is all.

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lockjawcanbefun  May 30, 2017 • 12:05:01pm
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ObserverArt  May 30, 2017 • 12:05:04pm

re: #96 Kragar

Kragar @Kragar_LGF

Kathy Griffin “I’m going to do something edgy and get people to talk about it instead of how awful Trump is.”

Gee, thanks a bunch.
2:52 PM - 30 May 2017
2 2 Retweets likes

Kragar…got some context to what “it” is she wants to talk about instead of Trump?

Maybe a link?

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Bass Reeves  May 30, 2017 • 12:05:24pm

re: #99 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

You could have shortened that down to: Chuck is stupid. You only have so much energy in a lifetime, you don’t want to spend it on trying to understand the rationale behind the irrational.

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Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2017 • 12:05:38pm

re: #99 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Observation on the Chuck Woolery thing:

Lenin was ancestrally Jewish on his mother’s side and likely it was never discussed because of the implications in the cultural milieu. He was raised Russian Orthodox and at one point he was in a seminary. Karl Marx was ancestrally Jewish on his father’s side, but raised in a household that had converted to Lutheranism.

So either Chuck is stupid or Chuck is claiming there’s some kind of ephemeral “Jewish” quality that persists (in the form of Communism) across generations. My money’s on the gif of the kid saying “Why not both?”

Thing is, this is an example of systemic antisemitism regardless of intentions. It hearkens all the way back to the mistrust of conversos in Spain (and likely even before that, but my knowledge is not comprehensive), but more explicitly echoes the reasoning used by the Tsarist Russians and the German National Socialists.

In short: this is a claim made by garbage people, for garbage reasons, with garbage evidence. That is all.

What Woolery is getting at is the old “Judeo-Bolshevism” canard.

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TedStriker  May 30, 2017 • 12:06:00pm

re: #95 Timothy Watson

*hums Foreigner*

I was think Dave Chappelle-as-Rick James:

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 12:06:26pm

re: #101 ObserverArt

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 12:08:11pm

this is fine…

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 12:08:13pm

re: #26 GlutenFreeJesus

Dead thread posted a response to wench re: saving Twitter gifs.

I use this site (which isn’t always up):

tweet2gif.com

Just copy/paste the link to the tweet and it does the rest. :)

Thanks! I tried it. I think the locked account is keeping it from working.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 12:10:05pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe she thinks she’s a cat.

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bratwurst  May 30, 2017 • 12:10:30pm

re: #103 Dr Lizardo

What Woolery is getting at is the old “Judeo-Bolshevism” canard.

That is awful in and of itself. What makes it worse and an insult to intelligence is the whole “hey, I just realized this!” angle.

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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 12:11:19pm

re: #105 Kragar

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Oh for the love of…that stupid stunt plays into the durr hurr, libruls are the real fascists!!!1!! argument so well that one is tempted to think she’s deliberately trying to hand trump a moral/PR victory 9_9

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Nyet  May 30, 2017 • 12:11:23pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 12:12:34pm

More domestic terrorism:

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covfefe  May 30, 2017 • 12:13:35pm

re: #107 wrenchwench

Darn.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 12:13:49pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fiona gets to explore the outdoor habitat for the first time this evening after the zoo closes for the day.

She looks verklempt.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 12:15:08pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is fine…

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Trump is under the mistaken impression that we’re the only game in town, and that everyone has to do what we want. This is a misreading* of the US as The Indispensable Country. It doesn’t mean other countries can’t get along without us. It means if other countries can’t depend on us, it’s worse for everyone.

*Right. As if he reads.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 12:15:42pm

re: #109 bratwurst

Thing is, he probably did “just realize it.”

Lots of folks are swimming in a pool of hog-piss information where they’re no necessarily presented with a notion outright, but are prodded toward that concept by precursor notions.

For example, wingnuts are primed for anti-Semitism by their sampling of conspiracy logic that hearkens back to the Elders of Zion, but also by the long arc of supersessionism and the notion the Jews just ain’t quite right, and also by the trend of racializing “Communism” as a kind of twofer damnation-by-association. There’s probably other things that are proc-ing them that I can’t think of right now.

ETA: This is what’s been building for years. Conspiracy logic always uses the same components, and most of those components are harvested from a limited number of ur-conspiracy theories. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is one of those texts that everybody samples, or samples indirectly. With the immense access to information in this age, conspiracy idiots are doing pattern recognition between the current soft-focused and coded conspiracy talk of the wingnuts (that want a veneer of “respectability) and the hard-core racist/anti-semitic materials of the past.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 12:16:32pm

re: #113 GlutenFreeJesus

Darn.

We tried. It was a rimshot with the words, ‘Ay, Dios mio.’

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 12:20:02pm

re: #116 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Thing is, he probably did “just realize it.”

Lots of folks are swimming in a pool of hog-piss information where they’re no necessarily presented with a notion outright, but are prodded toward that concept by precursor notions.

For example, wingnuts are primed for anti-Semitism by their sampling of conspiracy logic that hearkens back to the Elders of Zion, but also by the long arc of supersessionism and the notion the Jews just ain’t quite right, and also by the trend of racializing “Communism” as a kind of twofer damnation-by-association. There’s probably other things that are proc-ing them that I can’t think of right now.

Yeah. Just in case you were thinking the Jews weren’t gonna be in the crosshairs of fascism this time around, that it was gonna be the Muslims’ turn in the barrel.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 12:23:09pm

re: #112 jaunte

More domestic terrorism:

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The murderous moron was probably yelling to the Quinaults, ‘Go back where you came from!’

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 12:24:40pm

re: #112 jaunte

More domestic terrorism:

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“There was one witness saying they heard a female in the vehicle yelling to the driver to stop as he was backing up toward the two males,” Johansson said.

Sounds like someone is in a good position to come forward and name the murderer.

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sagehen  May 30, 2017 • 12:24:52pm

re: #75 Dr. Matt

Spicer just said an overwhelming majority of people elected Trump to be president.

Reminder:

in 2008, BHO won the popular vote by a margin of 9.5million. He had 365 electoral votes.
in 2012, BHO won the popular vote by a margin of 5 million. He had 332 electoral votes.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 12:25:03pm

re: #119 wrenchwench

There’s only a few roads out of the area; he won’t remain free for long.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 12:26:12pm

re: #121 sagehen

Reminder:

in 2008, BHO won the popular vote by a margin of 9.5million. He had 365 electoral votes.
in 2012, BHO won the popular vote by a margin of 5 million. He had 332 electoral votes.

The Trump administration is not interested in reality. They’ve all gone tribal and will tell whatever lies support their tribe, while calling reality-based people “liars”.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 12:26:57pm

Looking overseas for happier news:

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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 12:26:58pm

re: #111 Nyet

Came across something via FB today and I feel you’re in an especially good position to comment on it (though others are more than welcome to weigh in). Maybe I’m misinterpreting, but to me, it feels like “both-siderism” and demanding the tolerant be tolerant of intolerance (I mean, I agree with the general premise that you shouldn’t dehumanize others - that’s a no-brainer - but is that automatically what “contempt” is, under all circumstances…?)

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 12:27:36pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 12:27:51pm

re: #118 Blind Frog Belly White

The thing about conspiracy logic is that it never stops, because it’s an all-encompassing explanation of why the believers are (1) special and wise; (2) failing because of sinister forces, not their flaws; (3) not needing to self-reflect or be skeptical of their own worldview.

The direct result is that conspiracies grow to cover the insecurities and failings of the promulgators. This can be seen institutionally in the USSR and Nazi Germany, but also in individual conspiracy believers, from cult leaders like Jim Jones to “theorists” like David Icke, to end-users (like some of the people who’ve been booted from here).

This is a big part of the phenomenon of “crank magnetism.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 12:28:49pm

It really is fascinating watching DJT’s twitter followers count increasing rapidly as the day goes on; for example, he’s added almost 1,000 new followers in the last 15 minutes. And almost all of those new followers are brand new accounts that have not tweeted.

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bratwurst  May 30, 2017 • 12:30:09pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 12:30:14pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

Twitter is the perfect disinformation system. I don’t think you could intentionally create a setup that worked better for faking and conning.

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2017 • 12:32:09pm

re: #121 sagehen

Reminder:

in 2008, BHO won the popular vote by a margin of 9.5million. He had 365 electoral votes.
in 2012, BHO won the popular vote by a margin of 5 million. He had 332 electoral votes.

Duh. Voter fraud.

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sagehen  May 30, 2017 • 12:37:02pm

re: #124 wrenchwench

Looking overseas for happier news:

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So they celebrate with Holi festivities? As multi-cultural as it gets, folks.

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Mike Lamb  May 30, 2017 • 12:38:46pm

re: #73 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Jesus…talk about leading with your chin.

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 12:39:27pm
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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 12:39:56pm

re: #125 Interesting Times

Came across something via FB today and I feel you’re in an especially good position to comment on it (though others are more than welcome to weigh in). Maybe I’m misinterpreting, but to me, it feels like “both-siderism” and demanding the tolerant be tolerant of intolerance (I mean, I agree with the general premise that you shouldn’t dehumanize others - that’s a no-brainer - but is that automatically what “contempt” is, under all circumstances…?)

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Holding a person in contempt is not great, holding a group of people in contempt is way worse, but I have no problem holding the ideas, statements, and behavior of anybody in contempt.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 12:42:19pm

re: #129 bratwurst

Like my post from the other day - we’re told that if we want to win, we have to jettison Pelosi, because the GOP sees her as their ‘secret weapon’. Presumably we should replace her with somebody less…female.

Interestingly, her popularity numbers are pretty much exactly the same as Paul Ryan’s.

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Belafon  May 30, 2017 • 12:42:39pm

re: #129 bratwurst

So, Ball is kind of clueless. It doesn’t matter how many PACs get created, Republicans will run Pelosi if it works.

And Pelosi didn’t lose the Rust Belt. Racism did.

Also, consider that all of the districts with races were areas that are normally very conservative, and not part of the Rust Belt.

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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 12:43:04pm

re: #135 wrenchwench

Holding a person in contempt is not great, holding a group of people in contempt is way worse, but I have no problem holding the ideas, statements, and behavior of anybody in contempt.

I think anyone held in contempt for not cooperating with this investigation should be held in Guantanamo Bay…out of concern for their security, of course.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 12:46:14pm

re: #138 darthstar

I think anyone held in contempt for not cooperating with this investigation should be held in Guantanamo Bay…out of concern for their security, of course.

Contempt of court is something else. There’re laws to deal with that. I wouldn’t go extra-judicial over it.

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2017 • 12:47:01pm

re: #134 Kragar

LOCK HIM UP!!!!!

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Timothy Watson  May 30, 2017 • 12:47:14pm

re: #137 Belafon

So, Ball is kind of clueless. It doesn’t matter how many PACs get created, Republicans will run Pelosi if it works.

And Pelosi didn’t lose the Rust Belt. Racism did.

Also, consider that all of the districts with races were areas that are normally very conservative, and not part of the Rust Belt.

With all due respect for Krystal Ball, she managed to get a whole 34.78% of the vote against the Republican incumbent while running as an ultra-liberal in a conservative district.

Maybe I won’t be taking her political strategy advice with a lot of weight.

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 12:47:24pm
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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 12:47:46pm
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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 12:53:54pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 12:55:52pm
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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 12:57:36pm
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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 1:00:57pm
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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 1:01:21pm

re: #146 Kragar

I don’t know…this one doesn’t look like a bot to me…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 1:01:29pm

re: #146 Kragar

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blueraven  May 30, 2017 • 1:02:01pm

re: #105 Kragar

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Fuck Kathy Griffin. NOT funny.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 1:02:56pm

re: #150 blueraven

Fuck Kathy Griffin. NOT funny.

Not a chance. Ick!

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Dr. Matt  May 30, 2017 • 1:03:59pm

Sanity break

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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 1:05:43pm

re: #148 darthstar

I don’t know…this one doesn’t look like a bot to me…

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In addition to not tweeting, they all seem to follow these accounts as well:
Hillary, Taylor Swift, Jimmy Fallon, CNN, ESPN, Ellen DeGeneres, Katy Perry, LeBron James, Obama, NF,…

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Dr. Matt  May 30, 2017 • 1:08:26pm

re: #105 Kragar

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The fake outrage from the deplorables on TMZ is quite amusing. They were utterly silent with Ted Pants Shitter Nugent threatened to kill Obama and Clinton. Or, how about the companies that made gun targets of Obama and Obama target practice rubber dummies? Crickets chirping. Or how about the countless calls for 2nd Amendment solutions against Obama?

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 1:11:02pm
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451_Montag  May 30, 2017 • 1:12:18pm

Jeez, BLOTUS really is a black hole. So dense even self respect can’t escape. His lawyer has to lawyer up. Lawyer squared! Any bet that the lawyer his lawyer appoints is also a lawyer connected to Trump? Lawyer cubed.

Can I suggest a new law? The number of degrees of lawyering is directly proportional to the amount of shit the original lawyer is in.

Call it Trumps law of increasing BS

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2017 • 1:12:53pm

re: #153 darthstar

In addition to not tweeting, they all seem to follow these accounts as well:
Hillary, Taylor Swift, Jimmy Fallon, CNN, ESPN, Ellen DeGeneres, Katy Perry, LeBron James, Obama, NF,…

The most popular ones…..

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covfefe  May 30, 2017 • 1:13:26pm

re: #156 451_Montag

6 Degrees of Vladimir Putin.

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2017 • 1:13:35pm

re: #148 darthstar

I don’t know…this one doesn’t look like a bot to me…

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no egg?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 1:13:43pm

re: #145 jaunte

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Zac Petkanas

@Zac_Petkanas

Is this a joke?

It is all a joke now.
A very very bad joke.

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blueraven  May 30, 2017 • 1:13:45pm

re: #154 Dr. Matt

The fake outrage from the deplorables on TMZ is quite amusing. They were utterly silent with Ted Pants Shitter Nugent threatened to kill Obama and Clinton. Or, how about the companies that made gun targets of Obama and Obama target practice rubber dummies? Crickets chirping. Or how about the countless calls for 2nd Amendment solutions against Obama?

Oh yes, let’s defend KG because stupid deplorables luv them some Ted Nugent and NRA.
Whataboutism anyone?

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 1:14:15pm
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Dr. Matt  May 30, 2017 • 1:15:18pm

re: #161 blueraven

Oh yes, let’s defend KG because stupid deplorables luv them some Ted Nugent and NRA.
Whataboutism anyone?

I never defended KG. NOT ONCE. So, you can take your fake outrage shove it up your ass as well.

Go fuckyourselfism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 1:16:00pm

re: #146 Kragar

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More than 2,000 new followers since I posted this: #128

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covfefe  May 30, 2017 • 1:16:37pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 1:17:25pm

re: #162 Kragar

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blueraven  May 30, 2017 • 1:18:08pm

re: #163 Dr. Matt

I never defended KG. NOT ONCE. So, you can take your fake outrage shove it up your ass as well.

Go fuckyourselfism.

Maybe my outrage is not fake.
Maybe I can see it is wrong when either side does it, but I expect better.
YMMV.

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lawhawk  May 30, 2017 • 1:18:40pm

re: #156 451_Montag

Jeez, BLOTUS really is a black hole. So dense even self respect can’t escape. His lawyer has to lawyer up. Lawyer squared! Any bet that the lawyer his lawyer appoints is also a lawyer connected to Trump? Lawyer cubed.

Can I suggest a new law? The number of degrees of lawyering is directly proportional to the amount of shit the original lawyer is in.

Call it Trumps law of increasing BS

A lawyer needing a lawyer to protect himself against other lawyers. That’s lawyer cubed.

A fourth wall break within another fourth wall. That’s 16 walls. /Deadpool.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2017 • 1:19:32pm

Evening Lizardim.

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bratwurst  May 30, 2017 • 1:21:13pm
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Belafon  May 30, 2017 • 1:21:17pm

re: #167 blueraven

Maybe my outrage is not fake.
Maybe I can see it is wrong when either side does it, but I expect better.
YMMV.

I’m curious how calling out the other side for their fake outrage is defending Kathy.

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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 1:23:59pm

re: #167 blueraven

Maybe my outrage is not fake.
Maybe I can see it is wrong when either side does it, but I expect better.
YMMV.

I’m outraged at her being stupid enough to hand fascists a propaganda victory. It’s such extreme stupidity, in fact, as to be virtually indistinguishable from ratfucking malice.

If nothing else, everyone should know that only GOPers (*cough* gianforte *cough*) are given a pass by the media for violence and suggestions thereof. Our side has nothing whatsoever to gain from this. And if you want to make a “beheading” joke re trump, this is the way to do it:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 1:24:10pm

re: #159 Sir John Barron

no egg?

Twitter “solved” the troll problem by replacing egg avatars with what you see on that account….

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lawhawk  May 30, 2017 • 1:24:24pm

I go away for a few hours, and Kathy Griffin is trending.

She’s not dead (usually what one thinks when someone you aren’t thinking about suddenly starts trending in news/twitter), but she’s tweeted/posted an image with “Trump’s severed head.”

Seriously, what the fuck was she thinking.

Not edgy. Not funny. Not even rationally related to anything other than being so pissed at Trump that you’ll go and do something that ultimately benefits Trump and his idiot supporters because you’ve provided him “proof” Democrats are “evil” or some other such nonsense.

Trump and his idiot supporters will be making hay of that nonsense from now until evermore.

And why? Because it deflects attention from what Trump’s done, is doing, and will continue doing. All these sanctimonious right wingers who are now castigating and deflecting attention on to Griffin had no problem when other right wingers were busy putting Obama effigies in a noose, putting Democrats in cross hairs, etc.

Not helpful is the least objectionable way of putting this. Seriously fucked up is

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blueraven  May 30, 2017 • 1:25:14pm

re: #171 Belafon

I’m curious how calling out the other side for their fake outrage is defending Kathy.

OK, fair point.
But I didn’t see any condemnation of Kathy Griffin’s stunt while condemning Ted Nugent’s.
Both actions are vile.

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BlueGrl21  May 30, 2017 • 1:26:17pm

re: #118 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. Just in case you were thinking the Jews weren’t gonna be in the crosshairs of fascism this time around, that it was gonna be the Muslims’ turn in the barrel.

It’s the whole “genetically” Jewish vs. Jewish religious belief. Chuck is going the genetic route, not the religious one. So to him, Marx and Lenin could be Benedictine monks, but they’d still be “racially” Jewish.

I will not go Godwin, but Godwin.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 1:26:22pm

re: #175 blueraven

OK, fair point.
But I didn’t see any condemnation of Kathy Griffin’s stunt while condemning Ted Nugent’s.
Both actions are vile.

It should be obvious that everyone here is repulsed by this has-been’s stunt. Did you just arrive here today?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2017 • 1:26:55pm

Looks like I picked the wrong day to forget my asbestos scale suit.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  May 30, 2017 • 1:28:12pm

Well, Kathy Griffin is certainly getting what she wanted out of her stunt.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 1:29:28pm

re: #178 thedopefishlives

Looks like I picked the wrong day to forget my asbestos scale suit.

You should be OK in that water-filled bowl.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 1:29:55pm

re: #179 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Well, Kathy Griffin is certainly getting what she wanted out of her stunt.

Yep. Her name is out there again, when many people had forgotten her.

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blueraven  May 30, 2017 • 1:30:04pm

re: #177 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It should be obvious that everyone here is repulsed by this has-been’s stunt. Did you just arrive here today?

I was responding to Dr Matt’s comment..

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BlueGrl21  May 30, 2017 • 1:30:56pm

re: #177 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It should be obvious that everyone here is repulsed by this has-been’s stunt. Did you just arrive here today?

It’s absolutely vile and hopefully will be the end of her “career.” It’s also the exact opposite of helpful. Stupid and disgusting.

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 1:31:08pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 1:31:27pm

re: #182 blueraven

I was responding to Dr Matt’s comment..

With nonsense. In public.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 1:31:29pm

re: #177 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It should be obvious that everyone here is repulsed by this has-been’s stunt. Did you just arrive here today?

Okay. Let’s see a show of hands. All those outraged by KG’s stupid shit?

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blueraven  May 30, 2017 • 1:32:07pm

re: #185 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

With nonsense. In public.

fuck off.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 1:32:45pm

re: #187 blueraven

fuck off.

And the creep is outed.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 1:33:05pm

re: #181 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yep. Her name is out there again, when many people had forgotten her.

Although, oddly, there’s a drug for Irritable Bowel Disease in which the Irritable Bowel is protrayed by a Kathy Griffin lookalike.

Seems kinda fitting.

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Belafon  May 30, 2017 • 1:34:11pm

I think we can back off now. We’re all in agreement KG blew it big time with that stunt. We definitely don’t need to go after each other.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 1:34:13pm

re: #187 blueraven

re: #188 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Don’t make me stop this car……

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 1:34:19pm

re: #189 Blind Frog Belly White

Although, oddly, there’s a drug for Irritable Bowel Disease in which the Irritable Bowel is protrayed by a Kathy Griffin lookalike.

Seems kinda fitting.

She’s really just known for being annoying. I guess simply annoying wasn’t enough to get attention anymore.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 1:35:38pm

re: #192 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

She’s really just known for being annoying. I guess simply annoying wasn’t enough to get attention anymore.

See Ann Coulter’s descent into overt racism, when being blonde and saying outrageous stuff wasn’t novel anymore.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 1:37:12pm

re: #193 Blind Frog Belly White

See Ann Coulter’s descent into overt racism, when being blonde and saying outrageous stuff wasn’t novel anymore.

Clearly the racism wasn’t even cutting it for her, since she had to say we should form an alliance with Russia to defend them against Europe. Hating for a living is a losing game, because you have to become more and more extreme to keep the attention of the haters.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2017 • 1:37:12pm

re: #180 wrenchwench

You should be OK in that water-filled bowl.

Yeah, but the glass won’t stand up too well to a flamethrower.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 1:39:24pm

re: #195 thedopefishlives

Yeah, but the glass won’t stand up too well to a flamethrower.

Time for an upgrade.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 1:39:48pm

re: #180 wrenchwench

You should be OK in that water-filled bowl.

Just don’t pull the flush handle….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 1:39:54pm

well…things certainly escalated quickly…

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 1:40:05pm

re: #196 wrenchwench

Time for an upgrade.

Pyrex.

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Apocalypse  May 30, 2017 • 1:40:24pm

re: #195 thedopefishlives

Does Pyrex make a fish bowl?

Edit: A tad slow I am.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 1:40:57pm

re: #199 Blind Frog Belly White

re: #200 Apocalypse

19 seconds.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 1:42:25pm

re: #194 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Clearly the racism wasn’t even cutting it for her, since she had to say we should form an alliance with Russia to defend them against Europe. Hating for a living is a losing game, because you have to become more and more extreme to keep the attention of the haters.

These days, once you go racist, you go pro-Russian. Only Vlad can save us from the Brown Hordes and the Gays.

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lawhawk  May 30, 2017 • 1:42:33pm

re: #199 Blind Frog Belly White

When Pyrex simply wont do…. you need upgrades.

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BlueGrl21  May 30, 2017 • 1:43:42pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

well…things certainly escalated quickly…

One of the things I love most about LGF is the community and how determined we are to try to be civil and respectful. We have our moments but this is a safe spot for me in the general mean sludge on the Internet.

Group Hug
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2017 • 1:43:56pm

re: #202 Blind Frog Belly White

These days, once you go racist, you go pro-Russian. Only Vlad can save us from the Brown Hordes and the Gays.

They are an oligarchic, autocratic, homophobic, theocratic state. The only difference to the GOP ideal is that they are Russian Orthodox instead of Fundamentalist Protestant.

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Romantic Heretic  May 30, 2017 • 1:44:03pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dr. Manhattan on Victory in Vietnam Night: The burnt out villages? The young boys with necklaces of human ears? These are a joke?

Comedian: Hey! I never said it was a good joke.

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Jack Burton  May 30, 2017 • 1:44:17pm

re: #155 Kragar

Glenn Greenwald is suddenly very concerned about leaks. Funny, that

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blueraven  May 30, 2017 • 1:46:21pm

I apologize to all Lizards.

I have been thinking about tribalism a lot lately and it bothers me so much. I was out of line accusing Dr Matt of defending KG. He did not.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 1:46:43pm

I’ll tell my lizard-whisperer story.

Two days ago, I was walking to work, and I saw a lizard on a telephone pole. It leapt onto a rock, then a big hunk of wood. It was striking, because it was beautifully marked in brown and black, instead of the usual several shades of brown. I crouched down and said, ‘Hi buddy. Where’s your blue? Show me your blue.’ And it puffed up and had bright blue showing on its underside and chin. I marveled and proceeded to the shop.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2017 • 1:46:57pm

re: #161 blueraven

Oh yes, let’s defend KG because stupid deplorables luv them some Ted Nugent and NRA.
Whataboutism anyone?

No. Try: YouDoNotUnderstandThePointSoBuyAClueism.

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Belafon  May 30, 2017 • 1:48:38pm

re: #210 ObserverArt

What was the name of the gem in Steven Universe that could accurately predict what had just happened?

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KGxvi  May 30, 2017 • 1:49:46pm

re: #208 blueraven

I apologize to all Lizards.

I have been thinking about tribalism a lot lately and it bothers me so much. I was out of line accusing Dr Matt of defending KG. He did not.

What did I do? I haven’t even been on today…

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 1:49:53pm

Griffin is an idiot but I never ever saw Republicans denounce Nugent but rather the total opposite, embrace him.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 1:49:55pm

re: #210 ObserverArt

No. Try: YouDoNotUnderstandThePointSoBuyAClueism.

It’s over. Let it go.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 1:50:19pm

re: #210 ObserverArt

No. Try: YouDoNotUnderstandThePointSoBuyAClueism.

Let it go. Apologies have been made.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 1:50:57pm

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Griffin is an idiot but I never ever saw Republicans denounce Nugent but rather the total opposite, embrace him.

IT’S SATIRE!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2017 • 1:51:06pm

re: #200 Apocalypse

Does Pyrex make a fish bowl?

There’s one made in China, apparently, thus proving once and for all that you can, in fact, buy anything on the Internet.

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geosherman  May 30, 2017 • 1:51:36pm

re: #211 Belafon

Sapphire? My kid is a big fan and I sort of listened to the episode….

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2017 • 1:51:52pm

re: #179 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Well, Kathy Griffin is certainly getting what she wanted out of her stunt.

I hope she gets hammered by ALL Democrats, progressives, liberals, even the Sanders backers whatever they are calling themselves today.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 1:52:10pm

re: #216 Blind Frog Belly White

IT’S SATIRE!

It’s always satire even when the person in question would get pissed by actual satire.

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Jack Burton  May 30, 2017 • 1:53:04pm

re: #162 Kragar

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lawhawk  May 30, 2017 • 1:53:30pm
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ObserverArt  May 30, 2017 • 1:54:06pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

well…things certainly escalated quickly…

The afternoon shift oftentimes gets a little rowdy. /

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Belafon  May 30, 2017 • 1:54:28pm

re: #218 geosherman

Sapphire? My kid is a big fan and I sort of listened to the episode….

Sapphires can predict the future. I couldn’t remember if the flawed one, who could only predict the past, was also a Sapphire.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 1:54:35pm

re: #222 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Spicer forgot to add the universal praise came from Russia.

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mmmirele  May 30, 2017 • 1:55:03pm

re: #186 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay. Let’s see a show of hands. All those outraged by KG’s stupid shit?

[Embedded content]

Me. And I unfollowed her. No fan of Trump, but this is beyond the pale.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 1:55:06pm

re: #219 ObserverArt

I hope she gets hammered by ALL Democrats, progressives, liberals, even the Sanders backers whatever they are calling themselves today.

What? We’re not going to nominate her to the Board of Directors of the ACLU? Invite her to the next State of the Union?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 1:56:29pm

re: #223 ObserverArt

Not like the night shift. That’s when it gets really weird.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 1:57:52pm
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ObserverArt  May 30, 2017 • 1:58:30pm

re: #214 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s over. Let it go.

Keep in mind some of us read down the thread and may appear to be jumping on because our response comes after others.

Relax. Take a deep breath and keep in mind the nature of posting, time, etc.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2017 • 2:00:25pm

re: #228 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Not like the night shift. That’s when it gets really weird.

I dunno. I’ve always found the morning shift to be where the wild things are.

LGF Historical Note - the morning shift at LGF also used to be when the wingnuts would mostly come out to play, back when we had a sizable number of them still enlisted here. Those discussions could get uncomfortable quickly.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 2:00:54pm

re: #229 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

The Newseum gets the glasses. The House of Representatives of the United States of America welcomes the thug who broke them.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2017 • 2:00:55pm

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Let it go. Apologies have been made.

Happy…not you too?

I work as I read…I can’t be all real time.

You know what. Time to bug out. Later.

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KGxvi  May 30, 2017 • 2:01:39pm

re: #231 thedopefishlives

I dunno. I’ve always found the morning shift to be where the wild things are.

LGF Historical Note - the morning shift at LGF also used to be when the wingnuts would mostly come out to play, back when we had a sizable number of them still enlisted here. Those discussions could get uncomfortable quickly.

When you say morning/night/afternoon shifts, I assume we’re talking about PST… the most important of the time zones?

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 2:01:39pm

re: #233 ObserverArt

Happy…not you too?

I work as I read…I can’t be all real time.

You know what. Time to bug out. Later.

Sorry man. Take care.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 2:02:13pm

re: #230 ObserverArt

Keep in mind some of us read down the thread and may appear to be jumping on because our response comes after others.

Relax. Take a deep breath and keep in mind the nature of posting, time, etc.

This usually leads to being the 4th person to post a witty rejoinder. Ask me how I know.

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Nyet  May 30, 2017 • 2:02:21pm

re: #125 Interesting Times

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Belafon  May 30, 2017 • 2:03:19pm

re: #224 Belafon

Sapphires can predict the future. I couldn’t remember if the flawed one, who could only predict the past, was also a Sapphire.

And the answer is, she is a Sapphire, specifically Padparadscha Sapphire, which is a type of sapphire where the coloring isn’t normal.

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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 2:05:53pm

I got to listen to Spicer’s presser - I was surprised it lasted as long as it did, as someone (female) called him out on the anonymous sources bullshit, asking, “Why is the anonymous source for Fox news credible and the one for WaPo isn’t?” - Fuckin’ Spicer pretty much just said “Because it is” or “I don’t want to talk about that” or something to that effect.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 2:07:06pm

re: #239 darthstar

I got to listen to Spicer’s presser - I was surprised it lasted as long as it did, as someone (female) called him out on the anonymous sources bullshit, asking, “Why is the anonymous source for Fox news credible and the one for WaPo isn’t?” - Fuckin’ Spicer pretty much just said “Because it is” or “I don’t want to talk about that” or something to that effect.

That’s why I don’t feel sorry for him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 2:08:10pm

re: #240 HappyWarrior

That’s why I don’t feel sorry for him.

Right - “You took the job, now lie in it.”
//////

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A Mom Anon  May 30, 2017 • 2:09:25pm

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Yep. Even my tiny violin doesn’t give a shit. At this point, it’s all about the money and nothing else for these mouthpieces. Rusty farm implements are too good for them.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 2:11:46pm

re: #242 A Mom Anon

Mom! Always good to see you. {{{Mom}}}

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 2:12:15pm

Ya know, as somebody who tries hard to be a good dogfather, these FB guilt-tripping “You said you loved me but you abandoned me!” things are annoying. I saw one just now, the basic story being that ‘you married a non-dog person, and had kids, and now you’re getting rid of me’.

Okay, so that’s bad. But I don’t know anyone whom that describes. Certainly not us, with dog beds all over the place!

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 2:12:27pm

re: #242 A Mom Anon

Yep. Even my tiny violin doesn’t give a shit. At this point, it’s all about the money and nothing else for these mouthpieces. Rusty farm implements are too good for them.

Yep. Good to see ya btw.

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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 2:12:45pm

re: #240 HappyWarrior

That’s why I don’t feel sorry for him.

Oh, he’s a professional asshole. I’m sorry he didn’t get to see the Pope because even the fuckin’ anti-gay bigot clerk from Kentucky met him, and she’s not even Catholic…so that’s gotta hurt. I just want him to go on a rage rant, say he’s tired of lying for the orange asshole, and quit his job on camera.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 2:12:54pm

re: #241 Blind Frog Belly White

Right - “You took the job, now lie in it.”
//////

Zactly.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 2:13:19pm

re: #246 darthstar

Oh, he’s a professional asshole. I’m sorry he didn’t get to see the Pope because even the fuckin’ anti-gay bigot clerk from Kentucky met him, and she’s not even Catholic…so that’s gotta hurt. I just want him to go on a rage rant, say he’s tired of lying for the orange asshole, and quit his job on camera.

That’ll be fun no doubt.

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mmmirele  May 30, 2017 • 2:14:42pm

re: #242 A Mom Anon

Yep. Even my tiny violin doesn’t give a shit. At this point, it’s all about the money and nothing else for these mouthpieces. Rusty farm implements are too good for them.

My ex-bf and I talked about this on Sunday, specifically regarding Sarah Huckabee Sanders. He could understand taking the job if you were getting paid a million dollars a month, but not for standard pay. Because they’re all going to resign or get fired.

My response: “Wingnut Welfare will take care of them.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 2:15:16pm

re: #244 Blind Frog Belly White

Ya know, as somebody who tries hard to be a good dogfather, these FB guilt-tripping “You said you loved me but you abandoned me!” things are annoying. I saw one just now, the basic story being that ‘you married a non-dog person, and had kids, and now you’re getting rid of me’.

Okay, so that’s bad. But I don’t know anyone whom that describes. Certainly not us, with dog beds all over the place!

I’m sure it happens. I knew someone who got rid of their cat when they married. I’d never do that, but I like animals more than I like people.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 2:16:06pm

“It’s like hitting a bullet, with another bullet, wearing a blindfold, riding a horse.”

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 2:16:44pm

In other news, my burrito-bringing customer brought me a salad. This situation must be remedied. I will never again joke about the possibility of daily burritos making me fat.

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makeitstop  May 30, 2017 • 2:16:56pm

re: #231 thedopefishlives

I dunno. I’ve always found the morning shift to be where the wild things are.

LGF Historical Note - the morning shift at LGF also used to be when the wingnuts would mostly come out to play, back when we had a sizable number of them still enlisted here. Those discussions could get uncomfortable quickly.

Ah, the Morning Wingnut Wave. I remember it well…

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 2:17:46pm

re: #253 makeitstop

Ah, the Morning Wingnut Wave. I remember it well…

Ah yes. I member that crowd.

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makeitstop  May 30, 2017 • 2:18:52pm

re: #242 A Mom Anon

Yep. Even my tiny violin doesn’t give a shit. At this point, it’s all about the money and nothing else for these mouthpieces. Rusty farm implements are too good for them.

Hi, Mom!

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Amory Blaine  May 30, 2017 • 2:19:40pm

re: #228 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Not like the night shift. That’s when it gets really weird.

You rang?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 2:20:03pm

IMO, you only get to use the ‘other guys did it, too’ defense when the other guys did it far, far worse.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 2:21:56pm

re: #257 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

IMO, you only get to use the ‘other guys did it, too’ defense when the other guys did it far, far worse.

Right.

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KGxvi  May 30, 2017 • 2:22:09pm

re: #239 darthstar

I got to listen to Spicer’s presser - I was surprised it lasted as long as it did, as someone (female) called him out on the anonymous sources bullshit, asking, “Why is the anonymous source for Fox news credible and the one for WaPo isn’t?” - Fuckin’ Spicer pretty much just said “Because it is” or “I don’t want to talk about that” or something to that effect.

How great would it have been if his answer was something along the lines of “because we know who the anonymous sources to Fox News are.”

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Nyet  May 30, 2017 • 2:23:49pm

Anybody a hockey fan?

/

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 2:24:14pm

re: #260 Nyet

Anybody a hockey fan?

/

It depends on the team.

/

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 2:24:45pm

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Right.

And in my experience, when wingnuts use it, it’s when one of them has done the ‘far worse’ thing. You know, like “Okay, so a GOP Congressman compared the Obama Administration to Nazi Germany. But an anonymous entry in a DNC contest, open to anyone on the internet, once compared Bush to Hitler. Same/same!”

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EmmaAnne  May 30, 2017 • 2:24:50pm

re: #250 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m sure it happens. I knew someone who got rid of their cat when they married. I’d never do that, but I like animals more than I like people.

I’ve never had to do it, but if someone has allergies …

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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 2:25:08pm

re: #256 Amory Blaine

You rang?

[Embedded content]

I’d smoke a bowl with Martha and Snoop Dogg.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 2:25:12pm

re: #260 Nyet

Anybody a hockey fan?

/

I’m reasonably sure someone is.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 2:25:41pm

re: #203 lawhawk

When Pyrex simply wont do…. you need upgrades.

Yeah, I was going to say, you just go to straight silica at that point. The downside is trying to get the damn thing made in the first place.

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makeitstop  May 30, 2017 • 2:26:46pm

re: #262 Blind Frog Belly White

And in my experience, when wingnuts use it, it’s when one of them has done the ‘far worse’ thing. You know, like “Okay, so a GOP Congressman compared the Obama Administration to Nazi Germany. But an anonymous entry in a DNC contest, open to anyone on the internet, once compared Bush to Hitler. Same/same!”

I was co-owner of a web site with the guy who did that Bush/Hitler video.

It was the reason I left.

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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 2:27:08pm

re: #264 darthstar

I’d smoke a bowl with Martha and Snoop Dogg.

Need to keep my chat windows on separate screens. Almost typed that one into a work chat.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 2:27:11pm

re: #266 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yeah, I was going to say, you just go to straight silica at that point. The downside is trying to get the damn thing made in the first place.

If only we knew someone with expertise in that area…..

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 2:27:49pm

re: #269 Blind Frog Belly White

If only we knew someone with expertise in that area…..

Once the platinum melts I’m tapped out of experience.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 2:28:57pm

re: #260 Nyet

Anybody a hockey fan?

/

SNicker, oh you’re bad.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 2:29:13pm

Anyway the normal Tuesday errand spree continues despite the fascinating glass discussion here. Sigh. We really need to time this shit better, guys.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 2:29:52pm

marketwatch.com

Someone tells the truth at a wingnut publication, and the commenters accidentally reinforce his point.
This is why wingnuts are hard to deprogram .

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 2:31:13pm

re: #270 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Once the platinum melts I’m tapped out of experience.

For some reason, this reminds me of when Mrs. FBW wanted me to make cabinets or some thing, and figured if I could make a selfbow, I could make a cabinet, even though the parameters of a good selfbow are pretty much diametrically opposite the parameters of a good cabinet.

They’re both made out of wood, but then, so are ducks and witches.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 2:31:41pm

re: #251 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

“It’s like hitting a bullet, with another bullet, wearing a blindfold, riding a horse.”

[Embedded content]

They’ve done this before, shooting down a spin stabilized simulated warhead with a transponder strapped on board that feeds the targeting system a constant stream of early launch telemetry is NOT indicative of real world conditions. All North Korea has to do to defeat this system is create a warhead with a small thruster that jags while approaching apogee and isn’t spin stabilized, just tumbling erratically on re-entry. When you no longer care about pin point precision in your offensive missile it gets massively more difficult for the other side to shoot it down.

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caseyjr  May 30, 2017 • 2:31:54pm

re: #260 Nyet

Anybody a hockey fan?

/

I had this toy as a kid, does that count?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 2:31:55pm

re: #268 darthstar

Need to keep my chat windows on separate screens. Almost typed that one into a work chat.

When my boss questioned my long hair, I told him it’s a protest against the Russian stooges in the White House, and if Trump is reelected, I’m buying a bong.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 2:33:07pm

re: #263 EmmaAnne

I’ve never had to do it, but if someone has allergies …

Then they’re not right for me.

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Nyet  May 30, 2017 • 2:33:11pm

Then:

Now:

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 2:33:32pm

re: #275 goddamnedfrank

They’ve done this before, shooting down a spin stabilized simulated warhead with a transponder strapped on board that feeds the targeting system a constant stream of early launch telemetry is NOT indicative of real world conditions. All North Korea has to do to defeat this system is create a warhead with a small thruster that jags while approaching apogee and isn’t spin stabilized, just tumbling erratically on re-entry. When you no longer care about pin point precision in your offensive missile it gets massively more difficult for the other side to shoot it down.

Oh, c’mon! Reagan said we could do it easily, and that was 30 years ago!
///

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whitebeach  May 30, 2017 • 2:33:34pm

re: #260 Nyet

Anybody a hockey fan?

/

Is that the game resembling snooker played on ice by rabid penguins in helmets and pads?

Not my thing. College baseball regionals are coming up, with superregionals and Omaha to follow. I lived in Baton Rouge for more than twenty years, so this is my favorite time.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 2:34:55pm

Don’t anyone tell Trump. He’ll see it as an unexpected benefit.

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Jay C  May 30, 2017 • 2:36:11pm

re: #279 Nyet

I chuckled until I got to “MAGALOMANIAC”, then it was LOL time.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 2:36:21pm

re: #282 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t anyone tell Trump. He’ll see it as an unexpected benefit.

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Wingnuts don’t see anything wrong with this.

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Nyet  May 30, 2017 • 2:37:56pm

re: #283 Jay C

It’s a crazy and despicable account, but even a blind squirrel…

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 2:40:23pm

re: #222 lawhawk

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Does Trump have his family locked in the WH attic or something?

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Jay C  May 30, 2017 • 2:40:42pm

re: #285 Nyet

It’s a crazy and despicable account, but even a blind squirrel…

… can provide the occasional laugh.

And Dog knows we need some!

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bratwurst  May 30, 2017 • 2:41:17pm
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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 2:43:12pm

re: #282 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t anyone tell Trump. He’ll see it as an unexpected benefit.

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Deportation fears silence a lot of kinds of victims—most notably wage theft.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 2:45:02pm

re: #288 bratwurst

“Citizens arrest of Kathy Griffin” is the funniest thing I’ve ever read

Didn’t Kathy Griffith used to be a TV personality?

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Timothy Watson  May 30, 2017 • 2:45:20pm

So, I get home from work and see that Trump is still President and Kathy Griffin is still not funny.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 2:49:25pm

re: #288 bratwurst

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Something tells me this guy was fine with Ted Nugent. Griffin is a boob but it’s funny eseing them get so puffy and outraged by this after they loved the way Nugent talked about Obama and Clinton.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 2:50:10pm

re: #291 Timothy Watson

So, I get home from work and see that Trump is still President and Kathy Griffin is still not funny.

I can’t wait to hear how much “you liberals love her.” I’ve always moer or less found her annoying. Appreciate that she’s a good friend to the LGBT community but meh.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 2:50:13pm
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A Mom Anon  May 30, 2017 • 2:51:48pm

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 2:52:50pm

re: #294 goddamnedfrank

The @kathygriffin photograph reaffirms my definition of “bad art.”

“I don’t know much about stupid, but I know stupid when I see it.”

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 2:53:12pm

re: #295 A Mom Anon

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makeitstop  May 30, 2017 • 2:54:44pm

re: #295 A Mom Anon

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 2:55:25pm

re: #266 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yeah, I was going to say, you just go to straight silica at that point. The downside is trying to get the damn thing made in the first place.

Just had the son of my contractor knock on my front door with a rock he found, while digging around my pond, that he had serious questions about, and he knows that I started off lo these many many years ago as a geology major, specializing in Appalachia…

He was so excited because it was a new rock find for him.

Best I could tell him for the moment was that it was siltstone/mudstone with pyrite and silica sand-sized crystals and the black matrix just dissolves away in water, most probably from a Devonian/Marcellus Formation.

But I have a mostly washed chunk that is drying in the sun on my kitchen window sill, so he is waiting impatiently for more information (and has another rock for me to examine).

This is actually quite fun.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 2:55:29pm

re: #150 blueraven

Fuck Kathy Griffin. NOT funny.

It’s worse than not funny, it gives the GOP another victim card to play.

“So what if one of our guys slit the throats of three people in Portland, the Democrats want to cut off the president’s head. Tonight on Hannity!”

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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 2:55:45pm

parent tweet isn’t showing…so here it is again just in case:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 2:57:04pm

re: #277 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

When my boss questioned my long hair, I told him it’s a protest against the Russian stooges in the White House, and if Trump is reelected, I’m buying a bong thong.

suggested edit just for the fear factor…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 2:58:40pm

re: #286 Barefoot Grin

Does Trump have his family locked in the WH attic or something?

Lincoln bedroom…where the flashing red light was the other night…

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 30, 2017 • 3:00:21pm

re: #252 wrenchwench

In other news, my burrito-bringing customer brought me a salad. This situation must be remedied. I will never again joke about the possibility of daily burritos making me fat.

Ouch! Like a punch to the gut!

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KGxvi  May 30, 2017 • 3:01:34pm

Wait, Erickson is a Never Trumper?

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Romantic Heretic  May 30, 2017 • 3:04:02pm

re: #251 Blind Frog Belly White

There will never be efficient interception of ICBMs until efficient directed energy weapons come into existence. Too fast and too many variables otherwise. Only moving at or near light speed will it be possible to knock them down with near 100% probability. Anything less means cities burn.

Something along the lines of Hammer’s Slammer’s powerguns.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 3:04:38pm

re: #305 KGxvi

Yeah, he is. He’s still a complete asshole though.

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covfefe  May 30, 2017 • 3:05:35pm

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KGxvi  May 30, 2017 • 3:05:45pm

re: #307 Skip Intro

Yeah, he is. He’s still a complete asshole though.

Well, I guess it’s proof that Trump really can bring us together?

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Amory Blaine  May 30, 2017 • 3:07:22pm

re: #295 A Mom Anon

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 3:07:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 3:10:57pm

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lincoln bedroom…where the flashing red light was the other night…

and I am so much a Minions fan just like CL, that when I saw all the breathless reporting about the flashing red light emanating from the Lincoln Bedroom, the only thing that came to mind was this:

Despicable Me 2 - Bee Doo Bee Doo Minion

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A Mom Anon  May 30, 2017 • 3:11:12pm

re: #297 HappyWarrior

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2017 • 3:12:19pm

re: #293 HappyWarrior

I can’t wait to hear how much “you liberals love her.” I’ve always moer or less found her annoying. Appreciate that she’s a good friend to the LGBT community but meh.

I’ve only seen her a few times on the old Whose Line Is It Anyway? She was moderately funny within the parameters of that show, but certainly not one of the best.

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blueraven  May 30, 2017 • 3:13:10pm

re: #311 Kragar

Didnt USAA claim that they did not buy ad time on opinion shows, and that advertising on Hannity was an oversight?

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 3:13:59pm

re: #311 Kragar

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Agh why? Hannity doesn’t give two shits about the military.

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Jay C  May 30, 2017 • 3:14:28pm

re: #305 KGxvi

Wait, Erickson is a Never Trumper?

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Well, kinda/sorta/sometimes: FWIW, E2 dumped all over Trump during the campaign and the election: but, AFAICR, once he won (Trump, not Erickson), Erick has been blowing hot and cold on The Donald: hot when there’s libruls to be bashed, or “PC” to be mocked: cold when it comes to Trump’s actual skills at governing (i.e. Absolute FAIL).

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 3:16:17pm

re: #305 KGxvi

Wait, Erickson is a Never Trumper?

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 3:16:29pm

re: #315 blueraven

Didnt USAA claim that they did not buy ad time on opinion shows, and that advertising on Hannity was an oversight?

If it’s an oversight it’s one they’ve also been making on MSNBC for months.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 3:16:53pm

re: #316 HappyWarrior

Agh why? Hannity doesn’t give two shits about the military.

That’s not how advertising works. Hannity delivers an audience who buy products sold by USAA like professional golf delivers an audience who buy ED and prostate drugs.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 3:17:26pm

re: #317 Jay C

Well, kinda/sorta/sometimes: FWIW, E2 dumped all over Trump during the campaign and the election: but, AFAICR, once he won (Trump, not Erickson), Erick has been blowing hot and cold on The Donald: hot when there’s libruls to be bashed, or “PC” to be mocked: cold when it comes to Trump’s actual skills at governing (i.e. Absolute FAIL).

In short, he wants to whine about the left too even though we’re out of power in the federal government and most state legislatures.

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blueraven  May 30, 2017 • 3:18:02pm

re: #315 blueraven

Didnt USAA claim that they did not buy ad time on opinion shows, and that advertising on Hannity was an oversight?

Why yes, yes they did.

USAA said Thursday it has a policy not to advertise on any opinion-based programing.

“There was an error which led to our ads running during certain opinion-based programs, and as soon as that was discovered, the error was corrected,” the San Antonio, Texas-based company said. “We will continually review our ad placements to ensure we are consistent with our policy.”

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 3:18:04pm

re: #320 Skip Intro

That’s not how advertising works. Hannity delivers an audience who buy products sold by USAA like professional golf delivers an audience who buy ED and prostate drugs.

True, fuck Lumpy tho.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 3:19:19pm

re: #323 HappyWarrior

He’s here to stay, I’m afraid. Like Limbaugh.

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blueraven  May 30, 2017 • 3:19:50pm

re: #319 goddamnedfrank

If it’s an oversight it’s one they’ve also been making on MSNBC for months.

Yes, they just flat out lied.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 3:20:01pm

re: #324 Skip Intro

He’s here to stay, I’m afraid. Like Limbaugh.

I know. I know.

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plansbandc  May 30, 2017 • 3:22:17pm

re: #276 caseyjr

I had it too. : )

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A Mom Anon  May 30, 2017 • 3:23:48pm

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danarchy  May 30, 2017 • 3:24:11pm

re: #306 Romantic Heretic

There will never be efficient interception of ICBMs until efficient directed energy weapons come into existence. Too fast and too many variables otherwise. Only moving at or near light speed will it be possible to knock them down with near 100% probability. Anything less means cities burn.

Something along the lines of Hammer’s Slammer’s powerguns.

umm… there is a huge range between 7km/s of an average icbm and ~300000Km/s of light. If you had something that could move at a fraction of one percent of the speed of light and still maneuver it would be relatively easy to intercept. That being said the challenges of that would seem to be a lot greater than just using lasers.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 3:29:58pm

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Joe Bacon  May 30, 2017 • 3:37:34pm

Chuck Woolery didn’t like my reply to him and cried to Twitter. Now I’m restricted for 12 hours… 🤣

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 3:38:14pm

re: #125 Interesting Times

Came across something via FB today and I feel you’re in an especially good position to comment on it (though others are more than welcome to weigh in). Maybe I’m misinterpreting, but to me, it feels like “both-siderism” and demanding the tolerant be tolerant of intolerance (I mean, I agree with the general premise that you shouldn’t dehumanize others - that’s a no-brainer - but is that automatically what “contempt” is, under all circumstances…?)

Short answer: The commentator you cite is concern-trolling. Long answer, behind the privacy bar, because long.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 3:38:57pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 3:40:43pm

re: #333 Stanley Sea

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No you’re a terrorist no matter how you define it, fuckwad.

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 30, 2017 • 3:41:08pm

re: #331 Joe Bacon

uh oh… *checks twitter*

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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 3:41:36pm

re: #331 Joe Bacon

Chuck Woolery didn’t like my reply to him and cried to Twitter. Now I’m restricted for 12 hours… 🤣

At least he read it.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 3:41:41pm

re: #331 Joe Bacon

Chuck Woolery didn’t like my reply to him and cried to Twitter. Now I’m restricted for 12 hours… 🤣

How did you trigger the bigoted snowflake?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 3:41:56pm

re: #333 Stanley Sea

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Proving that he is an asshole to the flaming end he is…and oh LOOKIE at the supremacy!!!!

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 3:42:12pm

re: #333 Stanley Sea

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Speaking of that fruit loop, the wingnuts are presently going hard on disowning him with a vengeance.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 3:43:02pm

re: #333 Stanley Sea

Jeremy Christian:’You call it terrorism. I call it patriotism …Die.”

Transcripts of that trial are going to be a delight.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 3:43:51pm

re: #339 Targetpractice

Speaking of that fruit loop, the wingnuts are presently going hard on disowning him with a vengeance.

He’s a BernieBro per Freep.

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Jack Burton  May 30, 2017 • 3:45:31pm

re: #341 Decatur Deb

He’s a BernieBro per Freep.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 3:45:42pm

re: #340 Decatur Deb

Transcripts of that trial are going to be a delight.

The survivor was in the courtroom.

Here’s the affidavit. I wish I didn’t read it.

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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 3:46:07pm

re: #341 Decatur Deb

He’s a BernieBro per Freep.

I bet the guy is a Freeper. Just as likely that he went on his rampage because he was either sick of the neverending Freepathons or Free Republic being down…..again

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 3:47:28pm

I have heard the Sanders rumors too. And I have seen Islamaphobia from Sanders supporters before too but I dunno.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 3:48:40pm
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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 3:48:57pm

re: #345 HappyWarrior

I have heard the Sanders rumors too. And I have seen Islamaphobia from Sanders supporters before too but I dunno.

Sounds like kneejerk deflection—a Freeper artform.

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 3:49:39pm

According to Dim Jim, the nutter was tossed out of the “free speech” event that pictures of him wearing Old Glory were taken at. Claims the police were called about him, but they just let him go…despite reports elsewhere that they confiscated a bat from him.

Since there’s no allegations that he was actually using the bat or doing anything of an illegal nature, it’s the traditional “The police saw a dangerous criminal and let him go!” bit.

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EPR-radar  May 30, 2017 • 3:49:42pm

re: #289 Decatur Deb

Deportation fears silence a lot of kinds of victims—most notably wage theft.

Enabling wage theft is the entire point of the status quo on immigration.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 3:51:25pm

re: #349 EPR-radar

Enabling wage theft is the entire point of the status quo on immigration.

Yup. Even when the suppressed wages are actually paid.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 3:53:59pm

I’ve spent a week in a news-proof time capsule. What is the WH red-light story?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 3:55:57pm

re: #351 Decatur Deb

I’ve spent a week in a news-proof time capsule. What is the WH red-light story?

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makeitstop  May 30, 2017 • 3:57:19pm

re: #343 Stanley Sea

The survivor was in the courtroom.

Here’s the affidavit. I wish I didn’t read it.

He’s gonna get Dahmer-ed upon his arrival in prison.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 3:57:46pm

re: #331 Joe Bacon

Chuck Woolery didn’t like my reply to him and cried to Twitter. Now I’m restricted for 12 hours… 🤣

He blocked me long ago.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 3:58:12pm

re: #349 EPR-radar

Enabling wage theft is the entire point of the status quo on immigration.

Speaking of wage theft, the GOP is going balls to the wall to support it.

You have to wade all the way to Page 403 of the 589-page Financial Choice Act to find a one-sentence provision that obliterates current efforts to bring fairness and responsibility to payday lenders and similar merchants of never-ending debt.

Section 733 of the bill, which could come up for a vote by the full House of Representatives as soon as this week, declares that federal authorities “may not exercise any rulemaking, enforcement or other authority with respect to payday loans, vehicle title loans or other similar loans.”

With that one line, Republican lawmakers have declared their willingness to allow people facing financial difficulties to be at the mercy of predatory lending practices that typically involve annual interest rates approaching 400%.

Who votes for these people?

latimes.com

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 3:59:00pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 3:59:02pm

re: #355 Skip Intro

Speaking of wage theft, the GOP is going balls to the wall to support it.

Who votes for these people?

latimes.com

Paulie Walnuts.

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 4:00:02pm

re: #355 Skip Intro

Speaking of wage theft, the GOP is going balls to the wall to support it.

Who votes for these people?

latimes.com

Republicans again side with legal loan sharks over the “working class” they supposedly embody.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 4:00:20pm

I’m sorry but JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 4:01:09pm

re: #356 Targetpractice

It was blinking in morse code. The message was “The last starfighter…” and then just cut off.

//

bee doo bee doo bee doo..

:D

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 4:01:36pm

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just had the son of my contractor knock on my front door with a rock he found, while digging around my pond, that he had serious questions about, and he knows that I started off lo these many many years ago as a geology major, specializing in Appalachia…

He was so excited because it was a new rock find for him.

Best I could tell him for the moment was that it was siltstone/mudstone with pyrite and silica sand-sized crystals and the black matrix just dissolves away in water, most probably from a Devonian/Marcellus Formation.

But I have a mostly washed chunk that is drying in the sun on my kitchen window sill, so he is waiting impatiently for more information (and has another rock for me to examine).

This is actually quite fun.

Someone brings me a rock and I tell them “that’s a rock.”

I promised my committee members I’d never actually try to pass myself off as a real geologist in that sense.

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 4:01:49pm

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m sorry but JFC

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He’s gone full wingnut.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 4:01:58pm

DF will not be happy about this…

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 4:02:00pm

re: #234 KGxvi

When you say morning/night/afternoon shifts, I assume we’re talking about PST… the most important of the time zones?

No. Mythical Mountain Time Zone, where we have unicorns and ponies for everyone. /s

OT to divert attention from the flamefest that flamed out: I went to the VA today for an appointment. The (one) paved highway between here and Sidney was under construction for about twenty miles. US-30 in Sidney is also under construction, making me late for my appointment.

They let that slide. Coming home, I decided the gravel roads would be a better choice, and came home that way.

Atop an old telegraph pole along what used to be US-385 before they put in the paved highway to the west, was a brand-new Stetson hat.

Couldn’t figure out why someone would put a Stetson hat on top of a telegraph pole. (If someone took it off for some reason working the ranch along the old highway, it would have been far too high to reach.)

Did it blow up there in the wind? Is someone playing an expensive prank? Did a telegraph worker installing a new telegraph system leave his hat behind? Inquiring minds want to know.

Life in the very slow lane. Y’all have to deal with things like traffic lights and six-lane wide freeways while we get to ponder the mysteries of Stetson hats on telegraph poles.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 4:02:18pm

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 4:03:55pm

re: #361 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Someone brings me a rock and I tell them “that’s a rock.”

I promised my committee members I’d never actually try to pass myself off as a real geologist in that sense.

We have so many different kinds of really cool rocks here in Appalachia. I would never ever tell someone “that’s a rock”. Especially if it looks like a potato and it’s actually a geode.

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mmmirele  May 30, 2017 • 4:04:35pm

re: #268 darthstar

Need to keep my chat windows on separate screens. Almost typed that one into a work chat.

This is why I have a cell phone for my personal web surfing at work. It keeps me out of trouble.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 4:04:46pm

re: #347 Decatur Deb

Look here, it’s an established fact that political alliance exists in a state of quantum flux until such time as the person commits a violent act, at which point reality shakes around, the waveform collapses, and they become a registered Democrat.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 4:06:36pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

We have so many different kinds of really cool rocks here in Appalachia. I would never ever tell someone “that’s a rock”. Especially if it looks like a potato and it’s actually a geode.

Ah, but see, I have very little (read: no) training in mineral identification.

I tried to actively avoid minerals, actually. Minerals meant crystals which is kind of not what the goal is when you’re making glass.

So my rock identification skills are about the same as any average person’s, despite my supposed area of expertise. Now if you want to talk about how the temperature affects the structure of a aluminosilicate melt, that’s a different conversation…

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 4:06:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 4:07:09pm

I love rocks.
Any and all kinds of rocks….I love them all.

And I especially love when the young’uns get all wide eyed excited about rocks.

Just call me a rock mom maven…

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 30, 2017 • 4:07:27pm

re: #362 Targetpractice

He’s gone full wingnut.

He’s been full wingnut since I signed up. I stayed away most mornings due to him and KT.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 4:07:48pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

We have so many different kinds of really cool rocks here in Appalachia. I would never ever tell someone “that’s a rock”. Especially if it looks like a potato and it’s actually a geode.

We lived near the Franklin mine in New Jersey. We told the kids’ teacher from the DoDDS school in Korea, and she arranged a week-long visit after our return. The tailings are full of exotic fluorescent stone., open to collectors.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 4:08:09pm

re: #373 Decatur Deb

We lived near the Franklin mine in New Jersey. We told the kids’ teacher from the DoDDS school in Korea, and she arranged a week-long visit after our return. The tailings are full of exotic fluorescent stone., open to collectors.

I have a bag of those in the garage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 4:08:30pm

re: #369 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Ah, but see, I have very little (read: no) training in mineral identification.

I tried to actively avoid minerals, actually. Minerals meant crystals which is kind of not what the goal is when you’re making glass.

So my rock identification skills are about the same as any average person’s, despite my supposed area of expertise. Now if you want to talk about how the temperature affects the structure of a aluminosilicate melt, that’s a different conversation…

ah…I see!

I’m a rockhound and fossil person for as far back as I can remember.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 4:09:49pm

re: #370 wrenchwench

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sadly, I’m thinking that percentage is the same if not higher for Iraq and Afghanistan.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 4:10:04pm

Mentions of the Marcellus Shale always makes me think about Pulp Fiction.

Samuel L Jackson as one very angry geologist.

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Jack Burton  May 30, 2017 • 4:13:01pm

re: #356 Targetpractice

It was blinking in morse code. The message was “The last starfighter…” and then just cut off.

//

is DEAD. Nothing can stop us now. Ahead full to Rylos!

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 4:13:33pm

re: #376 Backwoods_Sleuth

sadly, I’m thinking that percentage is the same if not higher for Iraq and Afghanistan.

It will be worse, proportionally. Almost no one did 3-4 tours in Viet Nam. Without large numbers of draftees, the professional Army is sending people around again and again. The Surgeon General has a better grasp on it than in the 70’s, but the impact is much less shared.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 4:14:04pm

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

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DF will not be happy about this…

Excellent. My state is doing the right thing.

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blueraven  May 30, 2017 • 4:14:09pm

Thanks, Kathy…

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Joe Bacon  May 30, 2017 • 4:14:10pm

re: #337 HappyWarrior

How did you trigger the bigoted snowflake?

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 4:14:45pm
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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 4:14:55pm

re: #381 blueraven

Al needs to cancel right now.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 4:17:54pm

re: #295 A Mom Anon

[[[Mom]]]

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 4:19:27pm

re: #383 Anymouse

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I won’t be an apologist, but I will get a kick out of all the people who once screamed “It’s performance art!” about the same thing done during the Obama years presently wigging out.

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TedStriker  May 30, 2017 • 4:19:33pm

re: #356 Targetpractice

It was blinking in morse code. The message was “The last starfighter…” and then just cut off.

//

“…is dead. The last starfighter is dead!” Oh, Zur, you!

You know, The Last Starfighter may seem pretty 80s cheesy now, but they got some things right:

A) It wasn’t a straight-up Star Trek or Star Wars clone. Alex’s story in TLS does have quite a bit in common with Luke’s story in ST:ANH, but that type of hero story’s been told since time immemorial. The twist was in how Centauri found and recruited Alex, via a cultural icon that was very much in the public’s consciousness at the time (and still is): a video game.

B) A pretty good cast. Lance Guest, Robert Preston (The Music Man himself), and Dan O’Herlihy (who would later become much more recognizable to 80s movies fans as the Old Man in Robocop and Robocop 2) were fantastic and just clicked together as Alex, Centari, and Grig respectively, IMO, and the rest of the cast was pretty solid. Hell, it was also one of the first movies that Wil Wheaton would have been in (a brief role as Alex’s brother Louis’ friend) before his breakout in Stand By Me and iconic stint in ST:TNG, had his scenes not been left on the editing room floor.

C) It was one of the first motion pictures to make heavy use of what we now know as CGI:

The Last Starfighter is one of the earliest films to make extensive use of computer graphics for its special effects. In place of physical models, 3D rendered models were used to depict space ships and many other objects. The Gunstar and other spaceships were the design of artist Ron Cobb, who also worked on Alien, Star Wars and Conan the Barbarian.

The computer graphics for the film were rendered by Digital Productions on a Cray X-MP supercomputer. The company created 27 minutes of effects for the film. This was considered an enormous amount of computer generated imagery at the time.[3] For the 300 scenes containing computer graphics in the film, each frame of the animation contained an average of 250,000 polygons, and had a resolution of 3000 × 5000 36-bit pixels. Digital Productions estimated that using computer animation required only half the time, and one half to one third the cost of traditional special effects. The result was a cost of $14 million for a film that made about $21 million at the box office.[3]

Not all special effects in the film were done with computer animation. The depiction of the Beta unit before it had taken Alex’s form was a practical effect, created out of materials and produced on-set. The Starcar created by Gene Winfield and driven by Centauri was also a real prop.[4]

en.wikipedia.org

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blueraven  May 30, 2017 • 4:21:06pm

re: #384 Skip Intro

Al needs to cancel right now.

Yep. Too bad he has been put in that position. I just cant imagine WTF she was thinking with this stunt. She is poison now.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 4:22:49pm

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

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DF will not be happy about this…

Good.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 4:23:42pm

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m sorry but JFC

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 4:25:09pm

re: #381 blueraven

Thanks, Kathy…

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Trump and Romeny literally appeared with Nugent AFTER Nugent told Obama and Clinton suck his gun. I don’t condone what Griffith did but fuck the GOP sideways for their hypocrisy.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 4:26:23pm

Is it just me or has the Huffington Post become even more horrible in the last few months?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 4:26:35pm

re: #379 Decatur Deb

It will be worse, proportionally. Almost no one did 3-4 tours in Viet Nam. Without large numbers of draftees, the professional Army is sending people around again and again. The Surgeon General has a better grasp on it than in the 70’s, but the impact is much less shared.

I don’t know the actual overall stats but what I saw here in Kentucky since GWB’s war after 9/11…it was National Guard being sent over there over and over again.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 4:28:37pm

re: #386 Targetpractice

I won’t be an apologist, but I will get a kick out of all the people who once screamed “It’s performance art!” about the same thing done during the Obama years presently wigging out.

My thoughts exactly. Fuck Griffith thogh for giving the both siders ammo that they don’t deserve.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 4:30:14pm

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t know that actual overall stats but what I’ve saw here in Kentucky since GWB’s war after 9/11…it was National Guard being sent over there over and over again.

Often was the NG and Army Reserve—it depends greatly on the force mix needed and the skills in the unit. A large part of the medic capability, for instance, is deliberately kept in the Reserve. That was a part of the Powell Doctrine—didn’t have the intended effect.

en.wikipedia.org

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Romantic Heretic  May 30, 2017 • 4:32:07pm

re: #333 Stanley Sea

(speaking to the ambulatory fungus, Mr. Christian) You first, asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 4:32:10pm

re: #395 Decatur Deb

Often was the NG and Army Reserve—it depends greatly on the force mix needed and the skills in the unit. A large part of the medic capability, for instance, is deliberately kept in the Reserve. That was a part of the Powell Doctrine—didn’t have the intended effect.

Our local NG that was deployed to the ME several times was the 299th Chemical Unit.

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 4:34:03pm

re: #394 HappyWarrior

My thoughts exactly. Fuck Griffith thogh for giving the both siders ammo that they don’t deserve.

At the moment it won’t be “Bothsiderism,” it’ll be “LOOK HOW DEPLORABLE THE LIBERALS ARE!”

The “Bothsiderism” will only come up when wingnuts do something far more horrid, at which time this picture will be used as a “Well, liberals are just as bad…”

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 4:34:33pm

There’s no point in doing a calculation about the Kathy Griffin thing: it will be pinned to everyone “liberal” because the right does not operate in good faith. There’s no war of perception going on, and the standard is intentionally a double standard.

The same is true of the “both-siders”: they are actively seeking to confirm their position, and there will always be something. Mostly because you cannot make a person see what their livelihood requires them to not see. The last “both sides” thinkpiece I read compared swearing to physically assaulting a reporter. Again, there isn’t really a winnable perception war.

Instead it should be criticized on its own terms. It’s not clever or good. It’s shocking, but clearly hasn’t thought about the larger interaction between the image and say, any given ISIS execution. Regardless of the present occupant, it’s bad form to use violent imagery as part of a political discussion. There’s also just plain lame “I am so edgy” aspect of the image.

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CleverToad  May 30, 2017 • 4:34:36pm

re: #355 Skip Intro

Thanks for the point-out — just left a pointed message on my congress critter’s phone line. I’ve yet to see anything good in the Financial Choice Act, but I hadn’t heard about that little poison pill.

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mmmirele  May 30, 2017 • 4:35:21pm

re: #334 HappyWarrior

No you’re a terrorist no matter how you define it, fuckwad.

There’s an evangelical woman (Janet Mefferd) who has a radio show and her thing is completely anti-Islam. I follow her on FB because she does also go after churches hiding child sexual abusers. But when she posts stuff like,”OMG The Mooslims Are Going To Overtake Us” and then says nothing about this guy Jeremy Christian, who slashed two people to death and badly injured a third person, of course I’m going to call her out. I know why she doesn’t do it, because it doesn’t fit her narrative. But until she bans me, I will continue to ask her why she goes after Muslims and not after right-wing terrorists.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 4:35:23pm

re: #398 Targetpractice

At the moment it won’t be “Bothsiderism,” it’ll be “LOOK HOW DEPLORABLE THE LIBERALS ARE!”

The “Bothsiderism” will only come up when wingnuts do something far more horrid, at which time this picture will be used as a “Well, liberals are just as bad…”

True I guess I was referring to if one of us wre to bring up Nugent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 4:35:30pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 4:35:52pm

One of those clickbait-y ads popped up on Facebook - “5 Signs You’re Having A Stroke”. If one were really evil, sign number one would be something about having difficulty reading, but the text would be garbled, but clear enough that you could tell what it said…..

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 4:36:08pm

re: #401 mmmirele

There’s an evangelical woman (Janet Mefferd) who has a radio show and her thing is completely anti-Islam. I follow her on FB because she does also go after churches hiding child sexual abusers. But when she posts stuff like,”OMG The Mooslims Are Going To Overtake Us” and then says nothing about this guy Jeremy Christian, who slashed two people to death and badly injured a third person, of course I’m going to call her out. I know why she doesn’t do it, because it doesn’t fit her narrative. But until she bans me, I will continue to ask her why she goes after Muslims and not after right-wing terrorists.

OF course sigh.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 4:36:57pm

Dog walk.

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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 4:37:35pm

Makes sense, I wonder if Flynn still wants to sing?

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 4:38:13pm

re: #400 CleverToad

That turd was dropped into the bill by Texas (of course) Congressman Jeb Hensarling, who has received more payoffs contributions from the payday loan industry than anyone else in Congress.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 4:38:19pm

re: #407 b.d.

Makes sense, I wonder if Flynn still wants to sing?

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That actually makes sense.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 4:39:18pm

re: #368 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Look here, it’s an established fact that political alliance exists in a state of quantum flux until such time as the person commits a violent act, at which point reality shakes around, the waveform collapses, and they become a registered Democrat.

See also Chyrons on FOX News magically assigning GOP politicians to the Democratic Party.

Nothing more than the demonisation of liberals that has gone on my entire politically-aware life. Except now the wingnuts are armed and dangerous.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2017 • 4:39:19pm

re: #395 Decatur Deb

Often was the NG and Army Reserve—it depends greatly on the force mix needed and the skills in the unit. A large part of the medic capability, for instance, is deliberately kept in the Reserve. That was a part of the Powell Doctrine—didn’t have the intended effect.

One of my local TBI buddies was in the National Guard. He told me, when it had been two years since my accident, that I would keep getting better. ‘Two years, that’s NOTHING!’ He was at the 10 year point (got his in Iraq). My most recent neurologist said, ‘It’s time to start working on acceptance’, ie, most of the ‘better’ has taken place. These things don’t go totally away. And I only have one little civilian one. Veterans need followup for life.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 4:39:29pm

re: #407 b.d.

Trump believes in loyalty to Trump, not from Trump.

This has been so obvious, for so long, it’s stunning that anyone will associate themselves with the monster.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 30, 2017 • 4:39:36pm

re: #295 A Mom Anon

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 4:39:53pm

re: #401 mmmirele

Jeremy Christian was also a big fan of the Bundy terrorists and really lost it when blue tarp guy got killed.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 30, 2017 • 4:41:28pm

Who is Kathy Griffin? Did Peter divorce Lois or is she Peter’s crazy old cat lady sister?

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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 4:41:36pm

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m sorry but JFC

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…and multiply him by around ~62 million or so -_-

(that’s the description I’ve been trying to come up with: 60-62 million voters are DF or worse. Somebody please come up with a way to get the 10s of millions of non-voters to the polls to help cancel them out!)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 4:44:00pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 4:45:14pm

re: #394 HappyWarrior

My thoughts exactly. Fuck Griffith thogh for giving the both siders ammo that they don’t deserve.

Take a page from the FOX playbook?

Kathy Griffith (R)

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 4:46:56pm

re: #415 The Vicious Babushka

Who is Kathy Griffin? Did Peter divorce Lois or is she Peter’s crazy old cat lady sister?

Heh his cousin actually according to one cutaway gag.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 4:47:26pm

re: #416 Interesting Times

…and multiply him by around ~62 million or so -_-

(that’s the description I’ve been trying to come up with: 60-62 million voters are DF or worse. Somebody please come up with a way to get the 10s of millions of non-voters to the polls to help cancel them out!)

Sad thing is DF should know better than this but because he’s a proud GOP hack he doesn’t care.

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 4:47:33pm

re: #345 HappyWarrior

I have heard the Sanders rumors too. And I have seen Islamaphobia from Sanders supporters before too but I dunno.

Somebody somewhere (can’t remember) posted what were supposedly his facebook rants—if real, was a Bernie primary guy, hated Hillary and Trump, then became a Trump supporter. But the Bernie love didn’t sound right even when it was up, as the guy was a total anti-semite and while praising Bernie was ranting against things Bernie said.

My guess was that the Bernie love was just noise to get attention and the guy was/is just a hateful asshole emboldened by the Trumpian order of things.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 4:47:57pm

re: #418 Anymouse

Take a page from the FOX playbook?

Kathy Griffith (R)

Nah, I’m not craven.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 30, 2017 • 4:47:59pm

Hardening my heart.

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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 4:48:55pm

re: #420 HappyWarrior

Sad thing is DF should know better than this but because he’s a proud GOP hack he doesn’t care.

Remember this list that ggt posted the other day? The first one describes DF to a T - I remember the frightening “ends justify the means” authoritarian comments he’d always make (and how he said that, at the time of the American Revolution, he would’ve been a loyalist). So it’s only natural that, as the GOP goes full fascist, he’s one to dutifully follow :/

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 4:49:21pm

re: #421 BeachDem

Somebody somewhere (can’t remember) posted what were supposedly his facebook rants—if real, was a Bernie primary guy, hated Hillary and Trump, then became a Trump supporter. But the Bernie love didn’t sound right even when it was up, as the guy was a total anti-semite and while praising Bernie was ranting against things Bernie said.

My guess was that the Bernie love was just noise to get attention and the guy was/is just a hateful asshole emboldened by the Trumpian order of things.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 4:49:39pm

Anybody taken a look at the new House of Cards yet? I don’t see how it can compete with reality now.

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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 4:51:11pm

re: #417 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pretty sure Kushner sold his interest in the Observer right after the election. He’s no longer listed as publisher on their masthead.

It was telling, in a very Kushner way, to see the way the Observer print edition was shut down so abruptly after the yam won. I had been a print subscriber for a very long time, going back to before Kushner bought the paper, and always enjoyed the insight it provided into a very different social stratum from the one in which I live.

So what happened to us loyal subscribers? The paper just… stopped coming. No announcement, no offer of a refund for paid-up subscriptions, no letter to subscribers. Just… nothing.

Which is about as much as I expect from Kushner.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 4:51:40pm

re: #424 Interesting Times

Remember this list that ggt posted the other day? The first one describes DF to a T - I remember the frightening “ends justify the means” authoritarian comments he’d always make (and how he said that, at the time of the American Revolution, he would’ve been a loyalist). So it’s only that, as the GOP goes full fascist, he’s one to dutifully follow :/

I actually missed that. I definitely do remember that though especially the Revolution comment. I found that amazing but in a way refreshingly honest too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 4:56:21pm
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piratedan  May 30, 2017 • 4:56:46pm

well, I certainly don’t condone what Griffin did, and while it will give the both siders plenty of ammo (because they never forget a slight, real or made up) she is allowed to express herself, no matter how inartfully or reprehensible it may be. Although I do believe (imho) showing the decapitated head of the President (no matter of my feelings for him) is something we can all do without. It does speak to the seething anger that most of remaining sane souls are experiencing but the “other side” won’t see it that way. They’ll see it as justification for all of the shit that they’ve been pulling for the last decade, no matter that “our” spokesperson happens to be a D-List comedienne and we’re hearing threats from actual GOP legislators because there’s no equivalence like false equivalence.

At this point, it won’t fucking matter because we’re still trying to hold the line about standards and protocols and ethics and the GOP and their followers are playing Calvinball and will gladly use our rules and tools against if it suits their purpose.

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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 4:56:47pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 4:56:52pm
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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 4:57:02pm

re: #421 BeachDem

My guess was that the Bernie love was just noise to get attention and the guy was/is just a hateful asshole emboldened by the Trumpian order of things.

Remember this?

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Le Coquí Résistance  May 30, 2017 • 4:59:35pm

re: #426 Skip Intro

Anybody taken a look at the new House of Cards yet? I don’t see how it can compete with reality now.

Kevin Spacey is not worried. He thinks House of Cards has better writers than the Trump Administration.

I wholeheartedly agree.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2017 • 5:00:14pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 5:01:32pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:01:49pm

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Both Romney and Trump praised Nugent big time.

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plansbandc  May 30, 2017 • 5:01:52pm

re: #394 HappyWarrior

Agreed. Those who condoned and excused the Obama stuff need to STFU.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 5:02:38pm

re: #423 Shiplord Kirel

Hardening my heart.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:03:05pm

re: #433 Interesting Times

Remember this?

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Never a word about any of that talk from the Bernit Can do no wrong contienget in my TL. They rag on “Sell out” Dems biut ignore that BErnie ahs defended some of Trump’s moronic policies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 5:03:58pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:04:11pm

re: #438 plansbandc

Agreed. Those who condoned and excused the Obama stuff need to STFU.

And that includes the Republican establishment who has made Nugent a made stay at Republican events and the NRA too. I think what Griffith did was in poor taste but I don’t want lectures from the people who kissed Ted Nugent’s shit stained ass.

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FormerDirtDart  May 30, 2017 • 5:05:45pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:07:16pm

re: #443 FormerDirtDart

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I guess Sessions still hasn’t gotten back from his vacation to his homo in 1855.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 5:07:26pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:08:30pm

re: #445 jaunte

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Good luck to him. I’d love to see Ryan retired.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 5:08:52pm

re: #443 FormerDirtDart

Somebody’s about to get fired.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 5:09:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 5:10:14pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:11:05pm

re: #448 Stanley Sea

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Now that’s an apology. She makes no excuses. She doesn’t attempt ot shift the blame or blame those offended.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:11:30pm

re: #449 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So wingers you were mocking the college kids for safe spaces huh?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 5:11:45pm
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stpaulbear  May 30, 2017 • 5:12:00pm

I just spent 3 minutes locked to the top of this page because of autoplay Arby’s ads. I can’t read more than 10 comments before I get dragged back to the top. This site has become unreadable. I got dragged to the top 3 times while trying to write this. These Arby’s ads have been doing this for almost a week now and it totally sucks.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:12:20pm

re: #452 Backwoods_Sleuth

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NOT BORIS! //

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2017 • 5:12:21pm

re: #449 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Okay, that shit’s funny, I don’t care who y’are.

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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 5:13:04pm

re: #452 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A guy named Boris is mixed up in the Russian deal?

Really?!?!?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2017 • 5:14:02pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 30, 2017 • 5:14:20pm

re: #456 b.d.

A guy named Boris is mixed up in the Russian deal?

Really?!?!?

My thoughts exactly.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 5:14:21pm

re: #452 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think Barron is running everything out of his New York penthouse.

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covfefe  May 30, 2017 • 5:14:46pm

re: #453 stpaulbear

I know our host sees it as an improper method, but consider using an ad blocker? If it’s the only way you’re able to come here and contribute, try and mitigate it by using Charles’ Amazon affiliate link whenever shopping on there. I try to as much as possible.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 5:15:05pm

re: #457 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Countdown to extreme Tolkien nerds complaining that he put something in the wrong place…3…2…1….

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 5:16:11pm

I missed Better Call Saul last night because I was totally roped into Scientology the Aftermath with Leah Remini & Mike Rinder (highly recommend)

Going to watch now.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:16:30pm

re: #456 b.d.

A guy named Boris is mixed up in the Russian deal?

Really?!?!?

The funny thing would be if he weren’t involved.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 5:16:33pm

re: #453 stpaulbear

I just spent 3 minutes locked to the top of this page because of autoplay Arby’s ads. I can’t read more than 10 comments before I get dragged back to the top. This site has become unreadable. I got dragged to the top 3 times while trying to write this. These Arby’s ads have been doing this for almost a week now and it totally sucks.

Did you complain when it started? Charles deals with problem ads as he’s notified of the problem.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 5:16:42pm

re: #448 Stanley Sea

Too late. Kathy Griffith made a step that is pretty much irretrievable.

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blueraven  May 30, 2017 • 5:17:17pm

re: #448 Stanley Sea

I am glad she apologized. It was the right thing to do.

Alas, I fear it is too late for her career and the repercussions for anyone standing in her orbit.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 5:17:33pm

re: #462 Stanley Sea

I missed Better Call Saul last night because I was totally roped into Scientology the Aftermath with Leah Remini & Mike Rinder (highly recommend)

Going to watch now.

Don’t think so.

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Joe Bacon  May 30, 2017 • 5:17:42pm

re: #458 Eclectic Cyborg

My thoughts exactly.

They’re investigating Boris, but what about Natasha?????

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 5:17:45pm

re: #461 Blind Frog Belly White

As the Zen practitioners say, if you encounter JRR Tolkien in the road, kill him.

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KingKenrod  May 30, 2017 • 5:17:59pm

re: #462 Stanley Sea

I missed Better Call Saul last night because I was totally roped into Scientology the Aftermath with Leah Remini & Mike Rinder (highly recommend)

Going to watch now.

It wasn’t on. They showed a bunch of repeats.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:18:14pm

re: #468 Joe Bacon

They’re investigating Boris, but what about Natasha?????

Moose and Squirrel will get to the bottom of this.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 5:19:06pm

re: #453 stpaulbear

I just spent 3 minutes locked to the top of this page because of autoplay Arby’s ads. I can’t read more than 10 comments before I get dragged back to the top. This site has become unreadable. I got dragged to the top 3 times while trying to write this. These Arby’s ads have been doing this for almost a week now and it totally sucks.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:19:13pm

re: #466 blueraven

I am glad she apologized. It was the right thing to do.

Alas, I fear it is too late for her career and the repercussions for anyone standing in her orbit.

I thought it was one of the most sincere apoloiges I’ve seen in a while. Still think it was in poor taste and fuel for the Trumpers but I’ll give her credit for something Nugent never did.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2017 • 5:19:20pm

The whole Trump circus and the damage it is inflicting on this country has been very depressing to many of us. It looks at though the US is now in decline. Then I recall those years in the 1980’s when experts were advising us that Japan will be the new world leader; that we couldn’t compete with their economic model.

Perhaps Trump could turn out to be a blessing in disguise: if Hillary had been elected, the House would still be in Republican hands; perhaps the Senate might have have shifted but probably. All those Congressmen who now ignore Trump’s misdeeds would be persecuting Hillary on one false charge after another. Maybe the result will be that this interlude will be a wakeup call to the American public and the Democrats will actually succeed in taking over the House in 2018.

Nah —- not likely to happen. But one can dream

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  May 30, 2017 • 5:19:29pm

re: #362 Targetpractice

He’s gone full wingnut.

Oh, dammit. At times, I kinda missed DF around here; it’s always good to have voices from across the spectrum, because groupthink is a characteristic of incurious minds and leads to gigantic blind spots.

But Merkel was “asking for it” ???

No.

Just. No.

That’s a vile echo of the uppity woman asking for sexual assault for daring to defy the whims of an egotistical male.

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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 5:19:36pm

re: #471 HappyWarrior

Moose and Squirrel will get to the bottom of this.

Bannon and Spicer?

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 5:19:55pm

re: #465 Anymouse

Fox/Hannity will be milking this for a month. I wonder if psycho Jr. will be on the show tonight?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 5:20:06pm

re: #462 Stanley Sea

I missed Better Call Saul last night because I was totally roped into Scientology the Aftermath with Leah Remini & Mike Rinder (highly recommend)

Going to watch now.

Was there a new episode last night? All we could find were repeats - which was okay, since we didn’t get a chance to watch last week, what with Hawaii Bro and SIL arriving.

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 5:20:23pm

re: #433 Interesting Times

Remember this?

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Yes, but what I’m thinking is that seeing the crap Christian was ranting about while claiming to be a Bernie supporter made me think he was not really such a Bernie supporter. He was actually a Bernie/Jill Stein/anti-semite/Tim McVey-loving/Hillary-hating (called for death to Hillary and her supporters)/anti-circumcision/anti-Muslim/white supremacist asshole.

Ah—found one of the articles with some of his facebook rants (there’s another one somewhere with more hideous ranting.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 5:20:29pm

re: #465 Anymouse

The argument is always in bad faith.

What they do, who they accommodate, will always be acceptable. Even when it’s people talking about violence and hurting their opponents and not any kind of “performance.”

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:20:40pm

re: #475 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

Oh, dammit. At times, I kinda missed DF around here; it’s always good to have voices from across the spectrum, because groupthink is a characteristic of incurious minds and leads to gigantic blind spots.

But Merkel was “asking for it” ???

No.

Just. No.

That’s a vile echo of the uppity woman asking for sexual assault for daring to defy the whims of an egotistical male.

DF had an ugly sexism that I noticed when he got upset at women.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 5:20:41pm

Police are ‘containing’ an armed man in rental car area, Orlando airport.

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covfefe  May 30, 2017 • 5:20:53pm

re: #465 Anymouse

I am not bothsiderisming this. Kathy did something stupid.

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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 5:20:54pm

I would not have apologized for that image.

Or, at least I would not have apologized for it until, upon showing the dead bodies of the people killed in for-political-convenience bombing were presented to Trump and he apologized for those.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 5:21:20pm

re: #441 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Being Ukraine, much beautifully-stitched underwear was soiled.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 5:21:41pm

re: #467 Skip Intro

Don’t think so.

YOU KNOW!!! I just found out it won’t air till next week!

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 5:21:54pm

re: #475 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:22:20pm

re: #483 GlutenFreeJesus

I am not bothsiderisming this. Kathy did something stupid.

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She also apologized. Something those fools never did. I can’t condone what she did but I will note that she sincerely did apologize and I think should get credit for that especially in this era of “I’m sorry if you were offended you overly sensitive asshole”.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 5:23:14pm

re: #456 b.d.

A guy named Boris is mixed up in the Russian deal?

Really?!?!?

Kelly-Ann’s real name is Natasha.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 5:23:16pm

re: #475 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

Oh, dammit. At times, I kinda missed DF around here; it’s always good to have voices from across the spectrum, because groupthink is a characteristic of incurious minds and leads to gigantic blind spots.

But Merkel was “asking for it” ???

No.

Just. No.

That’s a vile echo of the uppity woman asking for sexual assault for daring to defy the whims of an egotistical male.

Merkel’s asking for it? Gee, I seem to recall somebody saying Hillary would be the Angela Merkel of the US, if we elected her.

What the fuck is wrong with some people, anyway. Denied human contact as infants? Raised by wolves? Ate too many Hostess Baking products growing up?

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covfefe  May 30, 2017 • 5:23:17pm

re: #488 HappyWarrior

Exactly. (digging up that “FUCK YOUR FEELINGS” Trump couple to post on Jr’s timeline)

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 5:23:20pm

re: #486 Stanley Sea

YOU KNOW!!! I just found out it won’t air till next week!

I know because I sat down to watch my recording of it an hour ago AND NOTHING WAS RECORDED!

Dammit! I watch three lousy shows a WEEK and AMC decides to bag one of them.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:24:04pm

re: #487 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:24:20pm

re: #489 Decatur Deb

Kelly-Ann’s real name is Natasha.

Kelly Ann Conwaynova.

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covfefe  May 30, 2017 • 5:25:39pm

“BBL”

Just kidding.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2017 • 5:26:31pm

re: #492 Skip Intro

I know because I sat down to watch my recording of it an hour ago AND NOTHING WAS RECORDED!

Dammit! I watch three lousy shows a WEEK and AMC decides to bag one of them.

At the end of every episode, Mrs. FBW sighs with dismay that we have to wait another week.

It doesn’t help that we didn’t watch Breaking Bad until 2 years after it concluded, so we could burn through a minimum of 3 episodes a night, with no commercials -

“Should we watch another one?”

“What time is it?”

“Not quite 11:00.”

“Aw, fuck it. Fire it up!”

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 5:26:32pm
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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 5:26:40pm

re: #494 HappyWarrior

Kelly Ann Conwaynova.

Kelly Anna Karenina Conway

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 5:27:13pm

re: #437 HappyWarrior

Both Romney and Trump praised Nugent big time.

I keep this handy at all times:

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 5:28:51pm

re: #499 BeachDem

I keep this handy at all times:

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Fuck her with Ted Nugent’s dick. It’s hard enough getting frightened old white women to the polls.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 5:28:57pm

re: #499 BeachDem

Tagg Romney? Is there some Palin/Romney bloodline that I’m not aware of?

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2017 • 5:29:09pm

re: #453 stpaulbear

I just spent 3 minutes locked to the top of this page because of autoplay Arby’s ads. I can’t read more than 10 comments before I get dragged back to the top. This site has become unreadable. I got dragged to the top 3 times while trying to write this. These Arby’s ads have been doing this for almost a week now and it totally sucks.

You seem to get those ads a lot. Have you cleaned out your cache, cookies and browsing history? You might try that, because of all of the returns I’m thinking you have a cookie or a strong past history reference in the cache that is causing those to keep coming.

Another thing. Hover over the ads and look at the link. If it is the same all the time, put the link and web address into your blocked sites folder in your anti-virus program. Maybe email the link to Charles too.

And don’t go to any Arby’s related anything on the web. Maybe you keep picking up the reference from some other site. Be aware of where you might be seeing Arby’s stuff online.

Just trying to help.

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Le Coquí Résistance  May 30, 2017 • 5:29:57pm

re: #490 Blind Frog Belly White

Merkel’s asking for it? Gee, I seem to recall somebody saying Hillary would be the Angela Merkel of the US, if we elected her.

What the fuck is wrong with some people, anyway. Denied human contact as infants? Raised by wolves? Ate too many Hostess Baking products growing up?

Reading Ayn Rand and being unable to out-grow it?

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2017 • 5:30:44pm

re: #475 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

Oh, dammit. At times, I kinda missed DF around here; it’s always good to have voices from across the spectrum, because groupthink is a characteristic of incurious minds and leads to gigantic blind spots.

But Merkel was “asking for it” ???

No.

Just. No.

That’s a vile echo of the uppity woman asking for sexual assault for daring to defy the whims of an egotistical male.

I felt the same about DF (and KT) because it’s too easy to be in a bubble when all you hear are those who share your views. But it’s sad to see how he’s gone off the deep end and finds it more comfortable to live in the Trump bubble. I have always believed that one of the main reasons Hillary did not get sufficient votes in certain states was the endemic sexism of blue collar workers and non-college educated, as well as fundamentalists and evangelicals.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 5:30:55pm

re: #483 GlutenFreeJesus

I am not bothsiderisming this. Kathy did something stupid.

I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to imply you were. I just note that no amount of apology is going to get Ms. Griffith out of this. While the apology is sincere and she doesn’t try to shift blame or accuse others of being too sensitive, the “I stepped over the line” bit will not satisfy anyone.

She saw the line, and thought “I know! An ISIS parody would be funny!” She deliberately crossed the line. It was stunningly stupid. “I’m a comedienne and I make mistakes all the time” is still an excuse.

I accept her apology. She is now still damaged goods for Al Franken (and Democrats in general). She did this to herself. The rest of us will pay for that. (It’s already on Drudge, expect it to be on FOX as soon as they get the readout from the wingnut-o-sphere.)

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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 5:31:13pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 5:33:33pm

Insane if true.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 5:33:56pm

Well, as long as Morris Davis doesn’t move his money to Wells-Fargo. /s

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:34:06pm

re: #499 BeachDem

I keep this handy at all times:

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Exactly and let me be fair to Kid Rock even if I don’t like his music and politics, I don’t put him in the Nugent category. He’s ignorant politically but not the shitheel Nugent is.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:34:44pm

re: #501 Skip Intro

Tagg Romney? Is there some Palin/Romney bloodline that I’m not aware of?

I believe Tagg was the tough guy Romney who talked about how he wanted to punch Obama. Or maybe that was Josh.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:35:35pm

re: #498 b.d.

Kelly Anna Karenina Conway

Winner!

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 5:35:36pm

re: #510 HappyWarrior

I believe Tagg was the tough guy Romney who talked about how he wanted to punch Obama. Or maybe that was Josh.

Tagg Romney definitely sounds like a Palin-Romney lovechild.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 5:36:01pm

re: #508 Anymouse

I recently moved some insurance policy funds (not USAA) and it was like wrestling a bone away from a pit bull.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 5:36:15pm

re: #500 Decatur Deb

When DD spells out fuck, pay attention.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 5:36:31pm
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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 5:36:43pm

re: #473 HappyWarrior

I thought it was one of the most sincere apoloiges I’ve seen in a while. Still think it was in poor taste and fuel for the Trumpers but I’ll give her credit for something Nugent never did.

Who were the people who were defending her (I’ve been trying to avoid the whole thing—but I hadn’t seen anyone defending her at all—just right wingers yelling that “leftists” were defending her. (The only thing I’ve seen actually defending her was a tweet from Tomi Lauren.)

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:37:10pm

re: #512 Decatur Deb

Tagg Romney definitely sounds like a Palin-Romney lovechild.

HEh it does.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 5:37:44pm

re: #504 Hecuba’s daughter

I felt the same about DF (and KT) because it’s too easy to be in a bubble when all you hear are those who share your views. But it’s sad to see how he’s gone off the deep end and finds it more comfortable to live in the Trump bubble. I have always believed that one of the main reasons Hillary did not get sufficient votes in certain states was the endemic sexism of blue collar workers and non-college educated, as well as fundamentalists and evangelicals.

“Checks love-me wall of certificates”

Blue-collar worker, non-college educated. Live in deeply red township where only eight people voted for Hillary Clinton. I was one of them.

According to a survey my wife did for the state library board, nearly half the adults in town have a four-year degrees or more.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 5:37:56pm

re: #514 Stanley Sea

When DD spells out fuck, pay attention.

One of my son’s teenaged friends said: “Your father is the only person who always says the ‘g’ in ‘fucking’.”

520
HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:39:18pm

re: #516 BeachDem

Who were the people who were defending her (I’ve been trying to avoid the whole thing—but I hadn’t seen anyone defending her at all—just right wingers yelling that “leftists” were defending her. (The only thing I’ve seen actually defending her was a tweet from Tomi Lauren.)

Yeah I haven’t seen anyone defending her either especially in Democratic elected circles. And that is something we should differentiate big time. Nugent tallks way worse about people and his reward? Oh he’s at the RNC. He’s at the NRA convention. I guarantee that KAthry will likely not be appearing with Al after this. The reason is simple, Democrats actuallly take responsibility for shit.

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Belafon  May 30, 2017 • 5:39:26pm

re: #426 Skip Intro

Anybody taken a look at the new House of Cards yet? I don’t see how it can compete with reality now.

When you watch House of Cards you can say “at least this makes sense.”

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 5:39:41pm
523
PhillyPretzel  May 30, 2017 • 5:39:52pm

re: #518 Anymouse

Do not feel too bad. I voted for her too. And here is the kicker I have a degree in English.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 5:40:05pm

re: #516 BeachDem

Who were the people who were defending her (I’ve been trying to avoid the whole thing—but I hadn’t seen anyone defending her at all—just right wingers yelling that “leftists” were defending her. (The only thing I’ve seen actually defending her was a tweet from Tomi Lauren.)

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:40:49pm

re: #522 Charles Johnson

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Now compare that with Ted Nugent who doubles down and says something even more nasty when called out on his shit or Greg Gainforte who brought hte politics of the man be assaulted’s newspaper.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:41:51pm

re: #524 Stanley Sea

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It’s times like thsee I’m really glad I took y’alls advice and stopped following one of my best friends on FB. I love the guy like another brother but politically he has his head up his ass.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 5:42:11pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:43:01pm

re: #527 Charles Johnson

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TBH Charles, it was probably one of the best actual apologies I have seen in years. She fucked up. I really don’t think she should be ruined for it.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2017 • 5:44:56pm

re: #518 Anymouse

“Checks love-me wall of certificates”

Blue-collar worker, non-college educated. Live in deeply red township where only eight people voted for Hillary Clinton. I was one of them.

According to a survey my wife did for the state library board, nearly half the adults in town have a four-year degrees or more.

That’s always the problem with generalizations — there are usually many exceptions. But in states that were blue last time that went red this year, that was a contributing factor.

530
jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 5:45:53pm

“…The man in the white house sits, naked and obscene, a pustule of ego, in the harsh light, a man whose grasp exceeded his understanding, because his understanding was dulled by indulgence. He must know somewhere below the surface he skates on that he has destroyed his image, and like Dorian Gray before him, will be devoured by his own corrosion in due time too. One way or another this will kill him, though he may drag down millions with him. One way or another, he knows he has stepped off a cliff, pronounced himself king of the air, and is in freefall. Another dungheap awaits his landing; the dung is all his; when he plunges into it he will be, at last, a self-made man.”

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 5:46:02pm

re: #520 HappyWarrior

Yeah I haven’t seen anyone defending her either especially in Democratic elected circles. And that is something we should differentiate big time. Nugent tallks way worse about people and his reward? Oh he’s at the RNC. He’s at the NRA convention. I guarantee that KAthry will likely not be appearing with Al after this. The reason is simple, Democrats actuallly take responsibility for shit.

I hate to do this to you, Happy Warrior, but your worst nightmare is happening:

VA-Gov: Bernie Sanders & Our Revolution Double Down To Help Perriello (D) Win The Dem Nominee

dailykos.com

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 5:46:36pm

Ah, but it’s already an article of wingnut faith being rapidly propagated across the Wingnutosphere that liberals are not condemning Ms. Griffith. When it hits FOX News (without mention of her apology), tens of millions of FOX viewers will only hear that she did this, not that she took responsibility for a shockingly bad judgement call of “comedy” and apologised for it.

By tonight, wingnuts will be all over social media saying “liberals support violence too” because they will have been told no liberals condemned her stunningly bad image.

By tomorrow, even in places like mine with no cell service and Internet I’ll be hearing about it from every person in town I meet. No amount of refutation will matter from me, because they don’t have Internet service to see that apology, just Christian hate radio and FOX News radio and television.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 5:47:08pm

re: #520 HappyWarrior

THIS

534
HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:47:19pm

re: #529 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s always the problem with generalizations — there are usually many exceptions. But in states that were blue last time that went red this year, that was a contributing factor.

Pennsylvania sigh. As I’ve said, too many white liberals have a blind sentimentality for the WWC’s prejudices that they would not accept in more educated voters. My grandfather was a HS drop out. Lfifelong Democrat but he had racial prejudices too. That doesn’t mean I think he was evil but he did have a lot of views about racial minorities that made me uncomfortable.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 5:48:16pm

re: #529 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s always the problem with generalizations — there are usually many exceptions. But in states that were blue last time that went red this year, that was a contributing factor.

It’s almost like statistics don’t guarantee anything.

536
HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:48:42pm

re: #531 BeachDem

I hate to do this to you, Happy Warrior, but your worst nightmare is happening:

VA-Gov: Bernie Sanders & Our Revolution Double Down To Help Perriello (D) Win The Dem Nominee

dailykos.com

Fuck. Good thing though is unlike other Our Revolution candidates, Perriello also has a lot of non-BB support. I really wish Bernie would stay out of my state after he casually dismissed it as a Republican state after Clinton beat him big here.

537
BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 5:50:08pm

re: #524 Stanley Sea

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Yep—other than Kathy herself before her apology and the photographer (and, of course, Tomi Lauren—craving attention I’m sure) I have not seen a single person defending her. I went through many google pages of “defending Kathy Griffin” and couldn’t come up with a single other person who was defending it.

538
HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:50:19pm

re: #532 Anymouse

Ah, but it’s already an article of wingnut faith being rapidly propagated across the Wingnutosphere that liberals are not condemning Ms. Griffith. When it hits FOX News (without mention of her apology), tens of millions of FOX viewers will only hear that she did this, not that she took responsibility for a shockingly bad judgement call of “comedy” and apologised for it.

By tonight, wingnuts will be all over social media saying “liberals support violence too” because they will have been told no liberals condemned her stunningly bad image.

By tomorrow, even in places like mine with no cell service and Internet I’ll be hearing about it from every person in town I meet. No amount of refutation will matter from me, because they don’t have Internet service to see that apology, just Christian hate radio and FOX News radio and television.

That’s their problem. You’re confusing me though. How aer they going to get the RW memes with no internet and thus no social media but no links to Griffin’s apology? There’s a difference between ignorance and stupidity, the stupid man simply doesn’t know, the ignorant man could know but chooses not to.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 5:50:52pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:51:04pm

re: #533 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

THIS

Taht means a lot coming from one of the most well spoken Lizards here. Thanks dude.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:51:40pm

re: #537 BeachDem

Yep—other than Kathy herself before her apology and the photographer (and, of course, Tomi Lauren—craving attention I’m sure) I have not seen a single person defending her. I went through many google pages of “defending Kathy Griffin” and couldn’t come up with a single other person who was defending it.

The Tomi remidns me of Limbaugh being one of the few people that defended Maher after his 9/11 comments.

542
HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:53:23pm

That moment when the primary opponent of the person you’re working for shows up to your door with her daughter. I am glad to be getting involved locally though. I can feel the difference more.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:57:10pm

Sorry AM if I sound harsh but I do feel and I admit I don’t live in your village that your fellow villagers could be doing a better job of informing themselves. If they choose to olny isolate themselves to media that renefroces their biases, that’s on them more than anything. What Griffith posted was stupid and wrong IMO but it does a disservice to just by one side’s spin on the issue.

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Joe Bacon  May 30, 2017 • 5:58:24pm

re: #534 HappyWarrior

Pennsylvania sigh. As I’ve said, too many white liberals have a blind sentimentality for the WWC’s prejudices that they would not accept in more educated voters. My grandfather was a HS drop out. Lfifelong Democrat but he had racial prejudices too. That doesn’t mean I think he was evil but he did have a lot of views about racial minorities that made me uncomfortable.

Happy, I just read this New Yorker article about the heroin epidiemic in West Virginia, since my home county (Beaver) borders on West Virginia I’ve always had a love for the place ever since and it breaks my heart to see how they have turned so deep red while heroin is running wild and unchecked.

newyorker.com

West Virginia has the highest overdose death rate in the country, and heroin has devastated the state’s Eastern Panhandle, which includes Hedgesville and the larger town of Martinsburg. Like the vast majority of residents there, nearly all the addicts are white, were born in the area, and have modest incomes. Because they can’t be dismissed as outsiders, some locals view them with empathy. Other residents regard addicts as community embarrassments. Many people in the Panhandle have embraced the idea of addiction as a disease, but a vocal cohort dismisses this as a fantasy disseminated by urban liberals.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 6:01:16pm

re: #246 darthstar

Oh, he’s a professional asshole. I’m sorry he didn’t get to see the Pope because even the fuckin’ anti-gay bigot clerk from Kentucky met him, and she’s not even Catholic…so that’s gotta hurt. I just want him to go on a rage rant, say he’s tired of lying for the orange asshole, and quit his job on camera.

Not going to happen. Spicer is a true believer. He’ll get fired before that happens.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:01:18pm

re: #544 Joe Bacon

Happy, I just read this New Yorker article about the heroin epidiemic in West Virginia, since my home county (Beaver) borders on West Virginia I’ve always had a love for the place ever since and it breaks my heart to see how they have turned so deep red while heroin is running wild and unchecked.

newyorker.com

West Virginia has the highest overdose death rate in the country, and heroin has devastated the state’s Eastern Panhandle, which includes Hedgesville and the larger town of Martinsburg. Like the vast majority of residents there, nearly all the addicts are white, were born in the area, and have modest incomes. Because they can’t be dismissed as outsiders, some locals view them with empathy. Other residents regard addicts as community embarrassments. Many people in the Panhandle have embraced the idea of addiction as a disease, but a vocal cohort dismisses this as a fantasy disseminated by urban liberals.

When white folks have drug problems, people start paying atteion. When it’s minorities, we dismiss em as addicts. WE should be trying to help all addicts regardless of their race or socioeconomic sattus. This is a very personal issue for me.

547
austin_blue  May 30, 2017 • 6:44:34pm

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love rocks.
Any and all kinds of rocks….I love them all.

And I especially love when the young’uns get all wide eyed excited about rocks.

Just call me a rock mom maven…

Got a picture of that thing?

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Jebediah, RBG  May 30, 2017 • 9:36:15pm

re: #295 A Mom Anon

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