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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 8:51:43pm

Reposted from downstairs-click this link …. littlegreenfootballs.com

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 8:54:23pm

Neo-Nazis want to rally in Portland, Ore. The permits were previously issued, but the mayor is now concerned about the recent double murder there and wants the Federal government to revoke the permits. (I’m not sure how the Feds fit into this.)

The ACLU goes in on the Skokie Nazi defence. (Six tweets, followed by a takedown of their analysis by others.)

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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 8:54:52pm
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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 8:56:14pm

Abstract:
During the election campaign, Donald Trump often made statements about Muslims in the U.S. This type of rhetoric has been used quite frequently by some of the far-right groups in Europe. Therefore, there is an urgent need to understand the dynamic of cultural interactions that define Muslim minorities in Europe, and the way these interactions are used in domestic and international politics. Gender-related issues and radicalization of Muslims are two topics that frequent the headlines. But now science is also becoming one of the contested issues.

For example, a rejection of biological evolution is increasingly being used by the media and the far-right groups in Europe to paint Muslim minorities as outsiders that threaten the European education system. Furthermore, Muslims are often treated in a unitary manner with an assumption that evolution rejection is their default religious position. Conversely, many Muslims in Europe are embracing this rejection of evolution as an identity marker for being a Muslim. While religious objections to evolution are indeed at play in some cases, our understanding for the rise of Islamic creationism should also take into account socio-economic disparities and their impact on education for Muslim minorities in Europe. A nuanced understanding of this dynamic may benefit those who support both the propagation of good science and favor cultural pluralism, and may also provide an insight into more politically charged subjects, such as debates over free speech and women’s religious attire in Europe. Furthermore, a look at these issues in Europe also may cast evolution battles in the U.S. in a different light.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:57:40pm

re: #2 Anymouse

Neo-Nazis want to rally in Portland, Ore. The permits were previously issued, but the mayor is now concerned about the recent double murder there and wants the Federal government to revoke the permits. (I’m not sure how the Feds fit into this.)

The ACLU goes in on the Skokie Nazi defence. (Six tweets, followed by a takedown of their analysis by others.)

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I don’t theink the ALCU is necessarily wrong here. IT erally does piss me off that the alt right Nazi fucks are doign this though.

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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 8:58:32pm

We were way ahead of the curve when it comes to Adnan Oktar.

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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 8:59:17pm

Confirmation coming on SMOTI being interviewed by Marco Wurman of “Boston Calling”, provided by PRI International…

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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 9:00:39pm

Confirmed.

PRI now has me as their adversery….

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 9:06:05pm

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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 9:06:42pm

Ha:

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 9:08:52pm

No bullshit.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 9:09:42pm

Ruh roh

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 9:09:42pm

!!!

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:10:51pm

And suddenly….

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:11:25pm
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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 9:11:45pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

Screenshot.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  May 30, 2017 • 9:12:34pm

re: #2 Anymouse

Neo-Nazis want to rally in Portland, Ore. The permits were previously issued, but the mayor is now concerned about the recent double murder there and wants the Federal government to revoke the permits. (I’m not sure how the Feds fit into this.)

The ACLU goes in on the Skokie Nazi defence. (Six tweets, followed by a takedown of their analysis by others.)

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The ACLU has their heart in the right place, but I believe that Portland is in the right here, due to their belief that the rally would be a direct threat to public safety, given that the Neo-Nazis (which is what the so-called Alt-Right almost entirely consists of) have beein increasingly violent during the latest gatherings (Berkeley, Portland, Olympia) and there have been multiple fatal attacks committed by white nationalists during the past three weeks. Given that three groups with a history of violent attacks (Identity Evropa, the “Proud Boys”, and Traditionalist Workers Party) all have announced their intent on being an armed presence at the rally, I think it is safe to say that this isn’t a First Amendment issue.

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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 9:12:37pm

“Fefe”… is she the next Melania?

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 9:13:07pm
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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 9:13:19pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:13:19pm

Thousands of suckups preparing explanations of what covfefe means.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 9:13:20pm
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meteor  May 30, 2017 • 9:14:10pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

I love covfefe, it’s great hot with granola.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 9:14:27pm

re: #15 jaunte

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 9:14:55pm

re: #8 The Major

I’m sure that weighs heavily upon them.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 9:15:15pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 9:15:46pm

re: #5 HappyWarrior

I don’t theink the ALCU is necessarily wrong here. IT erally does piss me off that the alt right Nazi fucks are doign this though.

The ACLU takes an absolutist view of the I Amendment just as the NRA takes an absolutist view of the II Amendment.

Nazis explicitly preach genocide. Genocide is a crime. Although agitprop and stochastic terrorism (such as seen in the run-up to the Nazi genocide or the Rwanda genocide) are not specified in law, incitement to violence is. By advocating for genocide, Neo-Nazis are specifically advocating for violence - even if they don’t do it themselves.

(See killings of David Berg, criminal activities of the Ku Klux Klan, the National Alliance, &c)

The ACLU has defended the Klan in the past though they specifically call for marginalisation or killing of African-Americans, Slavs, Catholics, &c., and have done so themselves in the past.

Is the I Amendment so absolute that it must be defined as “all speech” is protected, even when the speech seeks to incite criminal violence? Is the I Amendment just as absolute as gun-nuts think the II Amendment is?

Is Glenn Beck haranguing night after night on Dr. Tiller in Kansas not responsible for the actions that occurred to Dr. Tiller, because it seems to me that such screeds are intended to set off someone who they then can write off as “unstable” or whatnot.

As odious as I find the Westboro Baptist Church, they do not go around advocating killing people.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:16:16pm
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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 9:16:20pm

re: #23 meteor

I love covfefe, it’s great hot with granola.

The negatively pressed covfefe isn’t nearly as good as the positively pressed covfefe.

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Scout  May 30, 2017 • 9:16:35pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

That’s absolutely extraordinary. Is there any verifiable proof it wasn’t an SNL sketch?

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 9:17:42pm

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 9:18:09pm

I could never really get into covfefe. The inhumane rearing and harvesting practices are off-putting.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:18:24pm

covfefe vs. bqhatevr

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 9:18:28pm

I bet Kathy Grffin enjoys covfefe.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 9:18:42pm

Stanley Sea! We tied on posting the covfefe tweet! I’ve never seen that happen.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 9:18:42pm

WSJ Kabul

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  May 30, 2017 • 9:19:20pm

re: #21 jaunte

Thousands of suckups preparing explanations of what covfefe means.

I wonder how many others are suddenly having morbid thoughts about what has happened here?

Including Mike Pence.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 9:19:26pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

Stanley Sea! We tied on posting the covfefe tweet! I’ve never seen that happen.

wow!!! fist bump brother!

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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 9:19:50pm

re: #34 JordanRules

I bet Kathy Grffin enjoys covfefe.

Yes, because it might finally knock her off the trending list she’s on for all the wrong reasons. #moarCovfefeForEveryone!

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Jebediah, RBG  May 30, 2017 • 9:19:51pm

re: #31 Stanley Sea

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wheat-dogg  May 30, 2017 • 9:20:41pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

The negatively pressed covfefe isn’t nearly as good as the positively pressed covfefe.

The covfefe processed through civet shit is very expensive.

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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 9:20:45pm

Twitter comes at you fast, bro:

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:20:56pm
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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 9:21:27pm

re: #31 Stanley Sea

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 9:21:29pm

#covfefe is about to bump Kathy Griffin from the top of the trends.

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wheat-dogg  May 30, 2017 • 9:21:36pm

I did a CL and posted this in a dead thread. Reposting for posterity.

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re: #280 Barefoot Grin

People investigating Ivanka brand in China either arrested or disappeared:

apnews.com

The article is worth read in its entirety, especially for the political and economic background it provides.

In a nutshell, the Party is very worried about the state of the Chinese economy, which has been slowing down for the last two to three years. Maintaining political stability (i.e., Party control) requires a well fed and complacent populace. Should the economy start to falter, the people will start to ask questions and make demands that the Party cannot answer or provide. It is an open secret here that factory workers are routinely over-worked and underpaid. Their employers take advantage of migrants from other provinces who have no family connections or guanxi in the city where they work. And workers (who desperately need the jobs to support their families back home) are unlikely to complain. When enough of them get fed up and go on strike, maybe the government will step in, either to quell the protest or to make some charade of correcting problems.

At the same time, the Party is very sensitive about negative publicity, and the fact that the Trump name is associated with this particular investigation means even more international attention will be paid to it. So, the easiest solution for the Party is to make the investigation disappear — to maintain a “harmonious society” and avoid public embarrassment.

In short, those two men are in deep shit and I expect they will soon be forced to make public confessions on Chinese TV of inciting public disorder or some such BS before they will be released. And they will probably be under close surveillance for the rest of their lives.

I also expect the Trumps to ignore the entire affair, because money.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 9:21:46pm

re: #31 Stanley Sea

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 9:21:47pm

re: #42 Interesting Times

Holy crap! LOL
So fast.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 9:21:58pm

I don’t see how someone with tiny hands could mess up that bad while typing on a phone.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 9:22:39pm

re: #31 Stanley Sea

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I’m guessing “covfefe” was meant in that to be “coverage” - Mr. Trump has left unfinished tweets in the past, or incorrectly spelt tweets.

As much as he uses his cell phone, the battery might have died.

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2017 • 9:23:17pm

And another thing.

With that “art piece”, today Kathy Griffen became Presidential.

As the Trumpers would say “political correctness is killing America, Fuck their feelings.”

if there was such a thing as an honest Trumper they would agree with me.

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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 9:23:31pm

I like covfefe, I like tea,
I hate my addled Prez and he covfefe

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:23:53pm
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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 9:24:15pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 9:24:44pm

re: #53 jaunte

coh-feh-fee

Obviously.

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 9:24:45pm

re: #53 jaunte

I was going with the long e.

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FormerDirtDart  May 30, 2017 • 9:24:48pm
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DodgerFan1988  May 30, 2017 • 9:25:08pm

Conservatives all over social media and right wing messageboards are now defending Jeremy Christian’s murder of two people as self-defense. Their logic is that Christian had a “right to free speech” when he verbally harassed the two black teenagers on the train. When the three men confronted him, he had every right to “fear for his life” because “he was outnumbered.” They’re saying the three men should have “respected his freedom of speech” and left him alone.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:25:10pm

We have a laser pointer again.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 9:25:12pm

re: #43 jaunte

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 9:25:25pm

There’s been some negative story about a liberal today, so it’s time for Trump to completely eclipse it with some late-night drunk tweeting.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 9:25:32pm

re: #55 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

coh-fay-fay

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makeitstop  May 30, 2017 • 9:26:08pm

It’s fun watching a new meme being born. Can’t laugh too loud because the wife is sleeping.

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2017 • 9:26:25pm

And another another thing, today Kathy Griffen was as bad as but no worse than 60 million Trump supporters. Think about that.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 9:26:26pm

re: #56 JordanRules

I was going with the long e.

Exactly, what are we, Philistines?

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 9:26:47pm

re: #27 Anymouse

The ACLU takes an absolutist view of the I Amendment just as the NRA takes an absolutist view of the II Amendment.

Nazis explicitly preach genocide. Genocide is a crime. Although agitprop and stochastic terrorism (such as seen in the run-up to the Nazi genocide or the Rwanda genocide) are not specified in law, incitement to violence is. By advocating for genocide, Neo-Nazis are specifically advocating for violence - even if they don’t do it themselves.

(See killings of David Berg, criminal activities of the Ku Klux Klan, the National Alliance, &c)

The ACLU has defended the Klan in the past though they specifically call for marginalisation or killing of African-Americans, Slavs, Catholics, &c., and have done so themselves in the past.

Is the I Amendment so absolute that it must be defined as “all speech” is protected, even when the speech seeks to incite criminal violence? Is the I Amendment just as absolute as gun-nuts think the II Amendment is?

Is Glenn Beck haranguing night after night on Dr. Tiller in Kansas not responsible for the actions that occurred to Dr. Tiller, because it seems to me that such screeds are intended to set off someone who they then can write off as “unstable” or whatnot.

As odious as I find the Westboro Baptist Church, they do not go around advocating killing people.

The USSC agreed that the Nazis at Skokie had a right to do what they did. I don’t disagree with where you’re coming from but case law does say they have that right.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 9:27:04pm

We’re all laughing, but Trump just invoked his magic word, summoned magic lightning, and transformed, Billy-Batson-into-Captain-Marvel-like.

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 9:27:05pm

And here I was, about to chillax and Destiny, and instead I get to watch a brainfart being born.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 30, 2017 • 9:27:07pm

SMOTI interviewed as a NATO expert on PRI is one of those truly bizarre through-the-looking-glass things you can’t believe could quite happen. Such things seem to happen more and more often these days though. It would be laughable on a yokel RWNJ talk show in Lubbock. For a national outlet with a heretofore decent reputation, it is just off the scale. These people are just following the ratings, no matter what kind of weird rabbit hole they lead into.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 9:27:12pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 9:27:25pm

re: #58 DodgerFan1988

Conservatives all over social media and right wing messageboards are now defending Jeremy Christian’s murder of two people as self-defense. Their logic is that Christian had a “right to free speech” when he verbally harassed the two black teenagers on the train. When the three men confronted him, he had every right to “fear for his life” because “he was outnumbered.” They’re saying the three men should have “respected his freedom of speech” and left him alone.

What the fucking fuck?

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:27:36pm

re: #68 Targetpractice

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 9:27:49pm

re: #58 DodgerFan1988

I’m sickened and not surprised. They have ‘stand your ground’ and will keep finding ways to legalize murder of their countrymen whom they consider enemies.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 9:27:51pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

Let’s call the whole thing off.

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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 9:28:23pm

It’s late here in the east. Ain’t enough covfefe to keep me up any longer.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 9:29:06pm

I thinking about going to go to a late night showing of Guardians of the Galaxy 2 at the fancy boozey theater and getting my covfefe on.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:30:20pm
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wheat-dogg  May 30, 2017 • 9:30:37pm

Way off topic, but I follow both these young ladies on Twitter and Instagram, so I’m glad to see them get more media exposure.

They’re Pakistani twins who blog about art, literature, fashion, Islam, and the challenges of being a college-educated Muslima in a society that doesn’t always respect them. Most of the time they tweet about the usual stuff teenage girls tweet about, though. I follow them just to remind myself that people are pretty much the same everywhere.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 9:30:48pm

re: #74 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Agreed.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 9:31:19pm

So I’m trying out the Maori fantasy/martial arts film “The Dead Lands” and I just had to rewind and confirm that yes, somebody just took a shit on a skull.

I am very confused, but feel I must continue.

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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 9:32:35pm

re: #45 Stanley Sea

#covfefe is about to bump Kathy Griffin from the top of the trends.

And sho’nuff:

saved by the shiny typo
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 9:32:38pm

re: #59 jaunte

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We have a laser pointer again.

Well, folk need some fun from the constant Dumpster fire of the administration. If an hour of tweeting responses to Mr. Trump’s nonsensical tweet provides that, well that’s fine. It won’t make the investigations into corruption or espionage go away.

Under the two-year slog with President Nixon, we didn’t have a constant barrage twenty-four hours a day of the lastest up-to-the-second disaster (or an hour of an empty podium).

That, and President Trump Bannon hates to be mocked. Mocking is a powerful weapon, especially for someone who can dish it out but can’t take it.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 9:32:42pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:33:15pm
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Shiplord Kirel  May 30, 2017 • 9:33:17pm

re: #54 Interesting Times

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 9:33:22pm

If they want to claim Christian was exercising free speech, then they can stop about Kathy Griffin who wasn’t even saying anything to anyone.

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makeitstop  May 30, 2017 • 9:33:56pm

re: #80 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

So I’m trying out the Maori fantasy/martial arts film “The Dead Lands” and I just had to rewind and confirm that yes, somebody just took a shit on a skull.

I am very confused, but feel I must continue.

An old ritual that the natives call ‘covfefe.’

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 9:34:10pm

re: #81 Interesting Times

And sho’nuff:

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Haha.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 9:35:08pm

Seriously, we need a medical update before I go to bed.

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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 9:35:18pm
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William Lewis  May 30, 2017 • 9:35:25pm

re: #58 DodgerFan1988

Conservatives all over social media and right wing messageboards are now defending Jeremy Christian’s murder of two people as self-defense. Their logic is that Christian had a “right to free speech” when he verbally harassed the two black teenagers on the train. When the three men confronted him, he had every right to “fear for his life” because “he was outnumbered.” They’re saying the three men should have “respected his freedom of speech” and left him alone.

In a nutshell, that kind of buffalo dung is why this leftist has a concealed carry permit and a nice old 4” S&W 357 magnum.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 9:35:29pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

If they want to claim Christian was exercising free speech, then they can stop about Kathy Griffin who wasn’t even saying anything to anyone.

Wait for some wingnutter to post on an obscure right-wing blog that Christian is a registered Democrat. Give it no more than twenty-four hours and it will be on FOX.

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wheat-dogg  May 30, 2017 • 9:36:54pm

OK. Time to do some work. My little video editing exercise won’t do it by itself.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 9:37:03pm

re: #90 Interesting Times

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Damnit I know he’s a GOP careerist but I like Rick.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 9:37:22pm

Gee ACLU, you don’t have to defend (with my donated money) the very neo-Nazis promoting such violence… .

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 9:37:23pm

re: #92 Anymouse

Wait for some wingnutter to post on an obscure right-wing blog that Christian is a registered Democrat. Give it no more than twenty-four hours and it will be on FOX.

I’m sure.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 9:37:43pm

re: #87 makeitstop

An old ritual that the natives call ‘covfefe.’

The subsequent scene explains what happened (defiling bones of an ancestor…major taboo…and framing someone for it), but…seriously…that was baffling. Particularly since I was half paying attention and half reading the board.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:38:48pm

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 9:39:10pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

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Heh

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2017 • 9:39:37pm

Covfefe is the natural outgrowth of modern texting and emailing as soon as you finish typing without carefully checking each word. Most of us are fortunate that our humiliation is limited to only a couple people. Obviously Trump doesn’t review words that millions may see. And he apparently doesn’t care either.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:39:49pm
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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 9:40:20pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 9:40:36pm

Wonkette writer Doktor Zoom basically taking the same position I am (minus my claim that Nazis specifically promote genocide):

Yr Dok Zoom is an old school ACLU card-carrier, so we find that pretty persuasive, along with the sweet old-fashioned notion that the best way to combat offensive speech is with more speech. And when it comes to Nazis, with social shunning, boycotts, and a recognition that someone having the right to free speech in no way obligates the rest of us to hand them a microphone. But if protest is allowed in a park, then it’s allowed even for people with abhorrent views, because First Amendment. Should it be allowed at any time, especially a week after an evil loser has murdered people? That one, we’re persuadable on: It’s close enough to yelling “theater!” in a crowded fire that we can see the case for shutting it down, temporarily, as long as there’s a guarantee the marches will be allowed later. We won’t pretend to know for certain, but the accused murderer in Portland being photographed Heiling Hitler while wrapped in a flag at the last event organized by the “Trump Free Speech People” certainly doesn’t make them seem like benign free speech advocates:

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 9:41:20pm

re: #96 HappyWarrior

I’m sure.

Hoft already did a post about how the guy supported Sanders, in which he quoted Cernovich’s bullshit lie that Christian only pretended to support Trump in order to discredit Trump supporters.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 9:41:43pm

re: #99 BeachDem

Heh

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It’s a legit question. I mean I’m no fan of Iran’s government but Saudi Arabia’s government is an absolute monarchy.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 9:42:19pm

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

Hoft already did a post about how the guy supported Sanders, in which he quoted Cernovich’s bullshit lie that Christian only pretended to support Trump in order to discredit Trump supporters.

Predictable.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 9:42:39pm

Covfefe dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 30, 2017 • 9:42:51pm

This convfefe stuff is too funny.

God bless you, internet.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 9:42:55pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2017 • 9:42:56pm

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

Hoft already did a post about how the guy supported Sanders, in which he quoted Cernovich’s bullshit lie that Christian only pretended to support Trump in order to discredit Trump supporters.

Because as all good Republican repeat endlessly: ” It’s Democrats who are the real racists. Don’t you know the Democrats founded the KKK”

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 9:43:02pm

re: #101 jaunte

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Yep some shallow faux intellectual bs.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:43:19pm

re: #107 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Integritas!

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:44:24pm
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Interesting Times  May 30, 2017 • 9:44:25pm
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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 9:45:10pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 9:45:19pm

With all this spinning of nonsense into neologism, I feel obliged to note that, approximately 8 years later, absolutely fucking nobody anywhere is using the word refudiate.

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DodgerFan1988  May 30, 2017 • 9:45:43pm

re: #92 Anymouse

Wait for some wingnutter to post on an obscure right-wing blog that Christian is a registered Democrat. Give it no more than twenty-four hours and it will be on FOX.

They already did. Just go to any usual right wing sites or bloggers and you’ll find stories of Jeremy Christian’s support of Bernie Sanders during last years Democratic Primaries. (But they conveniently left out that he switched his support to Trump after Hillary Clinton won the primaries).

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 9:48:06pm

ET IN COVFEFE EGO

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allegro  May 30, 2017 • 9:48:13pm

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

This convfefe stuff is too funny.

God bless you, internet.

Glad it isn’t just me. I’m LMAO reading this thread.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:48:49pm

Where in the world is Kellyanne Covfefe?

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 9:49:46pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 30, 2017 • 9:50:06pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 9:50:10pm

re: #100 Hecuba’s daughter

Covfefe is the natural outgrowth of modern texting and emailing as soon as you finish typing without carefully checking each word. Most of us are fortunate that our humiliation is limited to only a couple people. Obviously Trump doesn’t review words that millions may see. And he apparently doesn’t care either.

My phone’s autocorrect insists - INSISTS - that I meant to type hickey instead of hockey. Repeatedly. Even if I go back and correct it.

It has led to some interesting tweets.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 9:50:33pm

re: #122 FormerDirtDart

Damn.

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 9:50:51pm

re: #89 Stanley Sea

Seriously, we need a medical update before I go to bed.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 9:51:05pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 9:51:08pm

re: #123 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Today, my autocorrect tried to make hard-boiled eggs into hardcore eggs.

It’s a filthy beast.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 9:51:15pm
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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 9:51:36pm

re: #126 Stanley Sea

Dang!

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2017 • 9:51:41pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

Yep some shallow faux intellectual bs.

Yep. Buckley was a pretentious racist, and his magazine has not improved since his departure.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 9:51:43pm

re: #118 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 9:51:59pm

re: #127 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Today, my autocorrect tried to make hard-boiled eggs into hardcore eggs.

It’s a filthy beast.

I once heard about someone else’s text about having left something in someone’s bag being autocorrected to vag.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 9:52:03pm

re: #130 Hecuba’s daughter

Yep. Buckley was a pretentious racist, and his magazine has not improved since his departure.

Exactly!

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 9:52:16pm

re: #125 BeachDem

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 9:52:33pm

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:52:35pm

How long are they going to leave it up?

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 9:52:50pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

Dang!

It was a goodie - I saw it like 3 other places before I finally posted!!!

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 9:53:14pm

re: #132 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s having absolute fits with “sous vide,” too.

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 9:53:16pm

re: #92 Anymouse

Wait for some wingnutter to post on an obscure right-wing blog that Christian is a registered Democrat. Give it no more than twenty-four hours and it will be on FOX.

They’ve been calling him a Bernie supporter all along.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 9:53:48pm

OK, Beach Dem is going to alert me is something really happened.

He probably thought all was well with the tweet & went to bed.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:54:26pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 9:54:46pm

re: #138 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

It’s having absolute fits with “sous vide,” too.

I continue to be interested to hear how that works for you. mr. klys has nearly gotten me one before as a birthday present and while this year’s birthday present (arriving tomorrow!) is a running GPS watch (OH MAN I’M GONNA GO DATA-NUTS), there’s always anniversary and Christmas…

And I cook a lot more these days.

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 9:54:55pm

The World Championship Match in Professional Keep-Away is being played right now in the Oval Office.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 9:55:14pm

re: #141 jaunte

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The only thing we have to cafefe USC cafefe itself!

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 9:55:25pm

re: #139 BeachDem

They’ve been calling him a Bernie supporter all along.

Which is at least half true. The other half is that he was actually just a Hillary hater, which hits too close to home for them.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 9:55:58pm

re: #145 goddamnedfrank

Which is at least half true. The other half is that he was actually just a Hillary hater, which hits too close to home for them.

Exactly.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 9:56:31pm

This whole covfefe thing is unpresidented.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 9:56:37pm

re: #140 Stanley Sea

OK, Beach Dem is going to alert me is something really happened.

He probably thought all was well with the tweet & went to bed.

Probably tried to save it as a draft or something. The real story here is that his staff is too terrified of him to delete it.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:57:03pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 9:57:19pm

re: #145 goddamnedfrank

Which is at least half true. The other half is that he was actually just a Hillary hater, which hits too close to home for them.

Or drifting into CT, he was never a Sanders supporter, but a rodent copulator.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 9:57:23pm

re: #127 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Today, my autocorrect tried to make hard-boiled eggs into hardcore eggs.

It’s a filthy beast.

Hard boiled eggs from the Instant Pot is sublime.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 9:57:30pm

Alternative words!

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Jebediah, RBG  May 30, 2017 • 9:58:18pm
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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 9:59:05pm

re: #143 Targetpractice

The World Championship Match in Professional Keep-Away is being played right now in the Oval Office.

It’s 1 am! He has to be alone with the staff…..??

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 9:59:21pm

Refefe button

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 9:59:38pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 30, 2017 • 9:59:40pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 9:59:41pm
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Shiplord Kirel  May 30, 2017 • 10:00:07pm

Facebook Post

Clueless commenters are demanding to know if the News denounced the threats against President Obama, as though it’s a given that they did not. In fact, the News is staunchly anti-Trump, it did denounce the threats against Obama, and it makes a regular practice of mocking chief offenders like the draft-dodging child molester Ted Nugent.
One purpose of this editorial is to expose the duplicity and hypocrisy of Republican media who will seemingly gloss over any atrocity from their own members.

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 10:00:11pm

re: #150 Anymouse

He was a Sanders supporter per his Facebook.

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FormerDirtDart  May 30, 2017 • 10:00:29pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 10:00:37pm
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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 10:00:55pm

re: #157 FormerDirtDart

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WSJ reporter

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2017 • 10:01:13pm

re: #148 goddamnedfrank

Probably tried to save it as a draft or something. The real story here is that his staff is too terrified of him to delete it.

They don’t want to sneak into his bedroom to get his phone to delete the comment.

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 10:02:32pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

Wow.

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 10:02:37pm

re: #140 Stanley Sea

OK, Beach Dem is going to alert me is something really happened.

He probably thought all was well with the tweet & went to bed.

And StanleySea knows I hardly ever sleep, so I’m on alert!

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 10:03:20pm

re: #166 BeachDem

And StanleySea knows I hardly ever sleep, so I’m on alert!

Obviously that post was premature. I had to red dot the cat.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 10:03:38pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:04:33pm

My covfefe brings all the boys to the yard.//

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 10:05:07pm

re: #149 jaunte

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CILLIZZA: The failure of Democrats and liberal elitist to use excellent words like covfefe is why Trump won a landslide in the rustbelt

Cillizza followup: Did anyone else think about covfefe last night? I know I did, and that’s why the GOP is on the right track.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:06:01pm

re: #160 JordanRules

He was a Sanders supporter per his Facebook.

I’m guessing a rodent copulator would write that on their Facebook page. Still in CT mode here.

None of the Sanders supporters here took up neo-Nazi racist themes. Could there be a Sanders supporter that did so? Sure, I guess.

Bernie Sanders is a fairly non-violent guy. Someone who claimed to be a Sanders supporter being violent against a pair of teenagers because “scary Muslim” seems to pat. It fits right into the magic balance fairy argument of “both sides do it.”

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 10:06:29pm
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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 10:07:21pm

He’ll tweet tomorrow morning that it was a joke and hey look I have a sense of humor!

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 10:08:12pm

re: #142 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So far, I’ve just done hard-boiled eggs, because I have a carton of duck eggs reaching the end of their “use by” date, and because by doing them under different conditions I get a sense of how consistent the device is under different circumstances. For example, changing out the container, how much water volume, open chamber or covered, whether multiple items affect the outcome. So far it’s very consistent; I’m getting firm whites and yolks that are solid but haven’t become pale and grainy (part of that is that they’re local duck eggs, though).

The Anova doesn’t really come with a cookbook, which is the other thing slowing me down. There’s some basic suggestions included in the setup guide, but that’s it. I need to wade through sous vide materials on the internet, but have been otherwise preoccupied. The other reasons I jumped into eggs first: Kenji Lopez-Alt has a great guide to sous-vide egg cooking on SeriousEats, and I don’t have seal-able plastic bags lying around and eggs don’t need them.

Once I get some acceptable bags (apparently you don’t need the pricey specialty food-sealer, just bags that you can burp air out of that seal well) I might try seafood first. I never cook fish.

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TedStriker  May 30, 2017 • 10:08:53pm

re: #149 jaunte

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“Covfefe” is a perfectly cromulent word!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 10:08:55pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:08:58pm
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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 10:08:59pm

“Long long ago, in a covfefe far far away…”

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 10:09:32pm
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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 10:10:09pm

re: #177 Anymouse

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The GOP’s already beginning the process of rendering Trump an “unperson” for the purposes of convincing voters that he was never really a Republican and thus the party can’t be held responsible for his actions.

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Timothy Watson  May 30, 2017 • 10:11:11pm

“The covfefe thing…” to paraphase Bill O’Reilly.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:11:12pm

hashtags.org

#covfefe is dropping off… . needz more Twitterati tweeting about covfefe

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 10:11:30pm

re: #177 Anymouse

John McCain will now continue to cooperate with Trump, because that’s what mavericks do.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 10:11:39pm
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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 10:11:48pm

re: #171 Anymouse

I’m guessing a rodent copulator would write that on their Facebook page. Still in CT mode here.

None of the Sanders supporters here took up neo-Nazi racist themes. Could there be a Sanders supporter that did so? Sure, I guess.

Bernie Sanders is a fairly non-violent guy. Someone who claimed to be a Sanders supporter being violent against a pair of teenagers because “scary Muslim” seems to pat. It fits right into the magic balance fairy argument of “both sides do it.”

littlegreenfootballs.com

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 10:11:52pm

re: #171 Anymouse

Fair enough on a larger point. I’ve encountered plenty of Bro sexism and racial uh neglect shall we say. For me it’s about the extreme alt left existing and being oddly aligned in ways with the alt right, trying to sabotage their alleged party and not holding the same values as Dems. And then there’s Bernie, sigh, with his power trips and refusal to join the party he wants power over.

Still not sure where the CT comes in.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:12:10pm

re: #180 Targetpractice

The GOP’s already beginning the process of rendering Trump an “unperson” for the purposes of convincing voters that he was never really a Republican and thus the party can’t be held responsible for his actions.

And the response should be that’s exactly why the GOP is responsible. They can’t even select a proper candidate, why would you let them run a government?

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 10:12:56pm

re: #176 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Best so far.

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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 10:13:35pm

All the more reason to fund the National Archives and the LIbrary of Congress:

(and, it’s seriously kool- science, art, and history kewl!)

How obsessive artists colorize old photos

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 10:13:51pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:13:52pm

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 10:13:55pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 10:14:45pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 30, 2017 • 10:15:06pm
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Timothy Watson  May 30, 2017 • 10:15:21pm

(I would be asleep, but it’s hard to sleep when the electricity is out and every little noise (looking at you cats and dogs) wakes you up.)

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 10:16:31pm

re: #195 Timothy Watson

(I would be asleep, but it’s hard to sleep when the electricity is out and every little noise (looking at you cats and dogs) wakes you up.)

Doesn’t the cat have a diving board to hang out on?

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Timothy Watson  May 30, 2017 • 10:18:12pm

re: #196 teleskiguy

Doesn’t the cat have a diving board to hang out on?

It’s raining so they are all inside. :)

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Timothy Watson  May 30, 2017 • 10:18:49pm

re: #196 teleskiguy

Doesn’t the cat have a diving board to hang out on?

(Impressive memory by the way!)

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:19:35pm

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 10:19:48pm

re: #171 Anymouse

re: #186 JordanRules

My observation is two things:

One, there’s the people who see what they want in the causes/people they support, which has nothing to do with what that cause/person are actually about. Case in point: our current president.

Two—overlapping with one—are the total narcissists for whom “right” and “left” are meaningless compared to their sense that they are important, special, “wise,” et cetera.

The far right, far left convergence has to do with common styles of thinking, but in particular with the deep ego-involvement and self-gratification that comes from being outre and countercultural, as well the ego padding that conspiracy logic provides (because you’re not shit because of anything you did, but because of “them.”)

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 10:19:49pm

re: #198 Timothy Watson

(Impressive memory by the way!)

We’re all a bunch of dorks here, and don’t you forget it. 😀

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:20:26pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 10:20:59pm

{{Happy Warrior}}}

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:21:39pm

I’m not trying ot crap on Sanders either who I have criticized here many times. My brother loves Sanders and he’s quite honestly one of the most open to people of all backgrounds I know. His wife is Peruvian. He’s made friends wherever he goes and is the greatest champion of indigenous people I know but yes a Sanders supporter can be a bigot. That doesn’t mean Sanders is at fault. Just as I don’t think the Democratic Party is responsible for the racial prejudices of some Democrats I have known.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:21:55pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 10:22:06pm

Glad to see that no true Scotsman is alive and thriving.

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 10:22:14pm

re: #200 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

The far right, far left convergence has to do with common styles of thinking, but in particular with the deep ego-involvement and self-gratification that comes from being outre and countercultural, as well the ego padding that conspiracy logic provides (because you’re not shit because of anything you did, but because of “them.”)

Yep, yep!

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 10:23:01pm

If Trump hadn’t managed to successfully hit “Send,” I’d almost question if he’d suffered a stroke.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 10:23:44pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 10:23:56pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:24:36pm

re: #206 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Glad to see that no true Scotsman is alive and thriving.

I suppose that comes from being in a Christian Nation (tm). Except those guys, they’re not real Christians. Or that group. Or that person. &c /s

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:25:35pm

re: #202 Anymouse

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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 10:25:40pm

I give, where do I find out what cofefe is?

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FormerDirtDart  May 30, 2017 • 10:26:14pm

Covfefe is all fun and games until you contemplate the possibility that a guy who can authorize the almost instantaneous release of hundreds of nuclear weapons my have just suffered a stroke…

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 10:26:25pm

re: #202 Anymouse

Regarding the rodent folk…In this sense, they are just claiming to be Trump supporters too if Russia is the client.

But there is plenty of crazy left and crazy right convergence and that murderer seems to represent the worst of it.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:26:28pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 10:26:44pm

REMAIN CALM

AND

COVFEFE

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:26:55pm

re: #203 Birth Control Works

{{Happy Warrior}}}

Thanks. Hard to believe it’s been a year already. Y’all were so supportive when he passed away too. I don’t have any regrets for calling him out when I felt he acted like a bigoted asshole but I did love him. He really showed me the strange duality of man.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 10:26:58pm

re: #213 Birth Control Works

I give, where do I find out what cofefe is?

Well, Miriam Webster said fuck it and went back to bed, so I guess we’re all just waiting on Trump to tweet again.

(See #20.)

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 10:27:37pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 10:27:44pm

re: #206 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That bastard is more durable than Dorian Grey.

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Timothy Watson  May 30, 2017 • 10:27:46pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:28:14pm

re: #211 Anymouse

I suppose that comes from being in a Christian Nation (tm). Except those guys, they’re not real Christians. Or that group. Or that person. &c /s

Listen, it’s great that you haven’t experienced any bigoted Sanders supporters. I really hope it stays that way. I have my problems with the man but I do think most of his supporters did and do have their hearts in the right place even if I think their heads can be up their asses at times.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 10:28:16pm

re: #221 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

That bastard is more durable than Dorian Grey.

I mean, I don’t mind, as long as he doesn’t show up repeatedly in the comments here.

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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 10:28:38pm

re: #219 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well, Miriam Webster said fuck it and went back to bed, so I guess we’re all just waiting on Trump to tweet again.

(See #20.)

ah!

Thanks.

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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 10:28:39pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 30, 2017 • 10:28:42pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 10:28:46pm

re: #223 HappyWarrior

Bernie would have covfefefefefe

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:29:31pm

re: #214 FormerDirtDart

Confefe is all fun and games until you contemplate the possibility that a guy who can authorize the almost instantaneous release of hundreds of nuclear weapons my have just suffered a stroke…

Well, if he actually suffered a stroke, I would presume he can no longer authorise launching nukes.

That said, there are many other half-finished or garbled tweets by Trump he never corrected or deleted. This one just happens to be a funny diversion.

Like the red light at the White House, “stroke” might be reading a bit too much into what’s going on.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 30, 2017 • 10:29:41pm

Whoever runs the Merriam Webster twitter deserves a huge freaking raise.

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 10:29:47pm

Considering all the stress that has come down on his head in the last three weeks, I can’t imagine that Trump’s in the best of health right now. His blood pressure is probably resting in the “stroke zone” every waking hour.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:30:11pm

re: #228 jaunte

Bernie would have covfefefefefe

Bernie would have made free cafefe for all!

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 10:30:30pm
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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 10:30:46pm

re: #229 Anymouse

Agreed. He does this a lot. I think the late hour is also contributing to the fun and speculation.

Viva convfefe!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 30, 2017 • 10:32:30pm

I can’t remember the last time I had so much fun online.

covfefe FTW!

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Shiplord Kirel  May 30, 2017 • 10:32:56pm

First world problems: My hot water quit working about 24 hours ago. The pilot light keeps going out and water is leaking all over the floor. Can’t get the plumber here till tomorrow.
Fortunately, the workshop has its own hot water heater, as well as a shower and a kitchen thingy, so I can rough it there. My daughter claims I live there anyway.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:33:17pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 10:33:36pm

re: #233 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Jeet Heer gets a ton of extra points because of the way this is a subtle self-mockery, since he constantly does long Twitter threads that get a bit free-association.

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 10:34:00pm

re: #231 Targetpractice

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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 10:35:01pm

re: #234 JordanRules

Agreed. He does this a lot. I think the late hour is also contributing to the fun and speculation.

Viva convfefe!

oooh, this could be a winner!

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FormerDirtDart  May 30, 2017 • 10:35:08pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:35:22pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:35:23pm

re: #240 JordanRules

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 10:35:58pm

re: #242 FormerDirtDart

I love people sometimes!!

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 10:36:23pm

re: #240 JordanRules

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Yeah, I saw that story earlier, which is what made me think “stroke” after the initial humor of the tweet. The man was not the picture of health before he took office and his definition of “exercise” since has been golfing every weekend.

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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 10:36:34pm

re: #236 Shiplord Kirel

First world problems: My hot water quit working about 24 hours ago. The pilot light keeps going out and water is leaking all over the floor. Can’t get the plumber here till tomorrow.
Fortunately, the workshop has its own hot water heater, as well as a shower and a kitchen thingy, so I can rough it there. My daughter claims I live there anyway.

We bought a new washer and dryer this week.

y’ouch!

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:38:42pm

re: #246 Targetpractice

Yeah, I saw that story earlier, which is what made me think “stroke” after the initial humor of the tweet. The man was not the picture of health before he took office and his definition of “exercise” since has been golfing every weekend.

Not sound morbid but we haven’t had a President die in office due to illness in over 70 years. Old president, out of shape President, stressed president. Just seems like a perfect storm. I’m not WISHING it but he definitely doesn’t have the STAMINA be bragged he had and he certainly isn’t in the best shape of his life like Dr. Okun from ID4 said he was.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 10:38:51pm

Checking on the Kabul explosion, tweets are reporting it was in the vicinity of the German and Indian embassies.

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 10:40:14pm

re: #246 Targetpractice

Ahh okay. Yeah, he’s really unhealthy but the only thing I thought about was how his dumbass can’t help himself, is barely literate and does this all the time. For some tweeters it’s like a thing watching how long he can take between tweets, misspelled or not.

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Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2017 • 10:40:34pm

re: #240 JordanRules

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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 10:41:29pm

Now, the Russia thing is Obama’s fault.

nothing like taking responsibility for one’s actions.

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 10:41:45pm

re: #251 Dr Lizardo

Or being mocked? So maybe he hasn’t corrected the tweet because he’s 2 scoops in.

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Timothy Watson  May 30, 2017 • 10:42:33pm

Do you covfefe?

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:42:42pm

re: #252 Birth Control Works

Now, the Russia thing is Obama’s fault.

nothing like taking responsibility for one’s actions.

That’s from a month and a half ago. Not saying it’s not bullshit, it totally is but it’s not new. And yeah it’s pathetic to blame Obama for this. Obama actually stood up to Putin. Trump’s done nothing but kiss Putin’s ass while attacking our long standing allies.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:43:01pm

re: #236 Shiplord Kirel

First world problems: My hot water quit working about 24 hours ago. The pilot light keeps going out and water is leaking all over the floor. Can’t get the plumber here till tomorrow.
Fortunately, the workshop has its own hot water heater, as well as a shower and a kitchen thingy, so I can rough it there. My daughter claims I live there anyway.

I’m sorry you’re having that problem; I can relate… .

When we went on our trip to California in December for three weeks, and shortly after we left the temps here dropped to -25 F and burst our water pipes in our cyclone cellar (the inner door somehow got open).

For three weeks water sprayed out of the hot water line all over the cellar, flooding our dirt floor cellar with about three feet of water. We got home on Christmas Eve to that - no way to get a plumber to come out sixty miles to our house then. (Fortunately for us, our homeowner’s insurance paid for the damages to our house, though I had to shovel a lot of the floor back into the cellar on my own.)

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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 10:43:20pm

re: #254 Timothy Watson

Do you covfefe?

I can’t believe you asked that! Cheeky!

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:43:40pm

re: #254 Timothy Watson

Do you covfefe?

Do you bro!

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 10:44:05pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:44:13pm

Just makes me sick that this all could have been avoided.

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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 10:44:38pm

re: #256 Anymouse

I’m sorry you’re having that problem; I can relate… .

When we went on our trip to California in December for three weeks, and shortly after we left the temps here dropped to -25 F and burst our water pipes in our cyclone cellar (the inner door somehow got open).

For three weeks water sprayed out of the hot water line all over the cellar, flooding our dirt floor cellar with about three feet of water. We got home on Christmas Eve to that - no way to get a plumber to come out sixty miles to our house then. (Fortunately for us, our homeowner’s insurance paid for the damages to our house, though I had to shovel a lot of the floor back into the cellar on my own.)

The only reason I like not having a basement is WATER. I still miss the storage.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:44:54pm

Mr. Johnson might need to start a new thread here tonight entitled “Covfefe.”

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:45:07pm

And by avoided, I don’t mean handing Sanders the nomination he didn’t win. I mean actually voting for someone who was goddamned qualified and who the fairly popular President told you was a great successor. But you got busy crying about emails and because she didn’t promise you a cookie.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 10:46:47pm
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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 10:46:49pm

re: #263 HappyWarrior

And she predicted all of this shit! Damnet America!

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covfefe  May 30, 2017 • 10:46:53pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:47:37pm

re: #265 JordanRules

And she predicted all of this shit! Damnet America!

We owe her a fucking apology.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:47:47pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 30, 2017 • 10:48:00pm

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:48:35pm

Make Covfefe Great AGain!

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 10:48:57pm

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:50:03pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 10:50:09pm
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covfefe  May 30, 2017 • 10:51:21pm

Hi!

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:51:36pm

re: #271 BeachDem

When I see a private comment, I am tempted to give it an upfist just because.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:54:19pm
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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 10:54:45pm
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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 10:55:59pm

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 10:57:19pm

Laser pointers and cats…

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:57:30pm

This is too much fun. Making America Gaffe Again?

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 10:58:05pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:58:58pm

re: #281 JordanRules

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On a neat note, found out that my cousins went to school with him. Patton not Trump.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 10:59:26pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 10:59:37pm

Mexico’s going to pay for the covefe!

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 11:00:44pm

re: #261 Birth Control Works

The only reason I like not having a basement is WATER. I still miss the storage.

When I had a basement, my sump pump died twice (always in the winter, of course.)

Then, when I moved to a place with no basement, and my hot water heater crapped out while I was out of town and flooded my whole first floor.

Can’t win for losing.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 11:01:03pm

re: #283 Anymouse

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HAhahhahahahahhah they’re so pathetic. Yeah I am sure this smug piece of shit would be saying the same thing if there were even a hint that Obama’s campaign had done this. Man FNC, y’all really want ot be the American RT.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 11:01:23pm
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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 11:02:50pm

re: #279 teleskiguy

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 11:03:57pm

re: #282 HappyWarrior

Very neat. I love his VA references and throwback stories. He’s one of my favorites on the Twitters. The Covfefe era was made for him.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 11:05:27pm

re: #285 BeachDem

When I had a basement, my sump pump died twice (always in the winter, of course.)

Then, when I moved to a place with no basement, and my hot water heater crapped out while I was out of town and flooded my whole first floor.

Can’t win for losing.

That stinks. If I ever had to replace my water heater I would need to remove a section of the kitchen flooring (that’s what the last owners did when they had the house plumbed with indoor water).

At that point, I might just say to heck with it and get an on-demand water heater that I can have installed somewhere and just leave the old water heater in the cellar.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 11:05:30pm

It’s interesting how sometimes the Internet can just take something and find it cathartic, collectively. A reminder that constant outrage isn’t healthy and we all need the chance to step back and laugh.

That and, you know, we laugh because otherwise reality is way too fucking horrifying to consider.

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 11:05:31pm

re: #287 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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The saddest thing is that had he completed the tweet, it probably would have been to expound on his HISTORIC electoral college win. (seems like that was where he was headed—probably would have included a map as well.)

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 11:06:22pm

Pibil is done and it’s late here.

I think I’m closing for the night.

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 11:07:40pm

re: #274 covfefe

Hi!

Quoting this just because.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 11:10:48pm

re: #294 JordanRules

Quoting this just because.

Upvoted this just because.

This is true enough - I might toss someone a couple bucks to see this:

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austin_blue  May 30, 2017 • 11:10:54pm

re: #291 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s interesting how sometimes the Internet can just take something and find it cathartic, collectively. A reminder that constant outrage isn’t healthy and we all need the chance to step back and laugh.

That and, you know, we laugh because otherwise reality is way too fucking horrifying to consider.

No shit. You laugh to keep from crying. Or, on the other hand, when the absurd pops up, you cry to keep from laughing.

Welcome to the new normal.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 11:12:10pm

re: #289 JordanRules

Very neat. I love his VA references and throwback stories. He’s one of my favorites on the Twitters. The Covfefe era was made for him.

I knew he was local but didn’t know about the connection until I hung out with my cousins and we watched some stebdup. He’s great. Glad he’s still out there after losing his wife.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 11:13:25pm

LOL

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 11:13:38pm

Good night.

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Ace-o-aces  May 30, 2017 • 11:18:59pm
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austin_blue  May 30, 2017 • 11:19:15pm

Gah! 1:15! Night all. Sweet dreams to you all. Talk atcha tomorrow.

“Maintenance” is the most misspelled word in Texas? Really? I would would have expected “misspelled” or “sanity”.

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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 11:19:33pm

Trump Administration Moves To Roll Back Birth Control Coverage

The contraception mandate, enacted under President Barack Obama in 2012, for the first time in U.S. history deemed birth control an essential preventive health service that should be fully covered alongside well-woman visits, mammograms and sexually transmitted infection screenings. It guarantees coverage to more than 55 million women, saved women $1.4 billion on birth control pills in the first year it went into effect, and has contributed to the lowest U.S. abortion rate since the procedure became legal in 1973.

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Kragar  May 30, 2017 • 11:21:01pm
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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 11:21:12pm

re: #285 BeachDem

When I had a basement, my sump pump died twice (always in the winter, of course.)

Then, when I moved to a place with no basement, and my hot water heater crapped out while I was out of town and flooded my whole first floor.

Can’t win for losing.

{{{{BeachDem}}}

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 11:21:30pm

re: #301 austin_blue

It’s ‘tomorrow’ in Colorado. I figure it’s on account of the ‘w.’

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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 11:22:43pm

re: #296 austin_blue

No shit. You laugh to keep from crying. Or, on the other hand, when the absurd pops up, you cry to keep from laughing.

Welcome to the new normal.

Cute Pics can only get you so far.

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 11:22:53pm

re: #305 teleskiguy

Same in Arizona.

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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 11:24:34pm

re: #290 Anymouse

That stinks. If I ever had to replace my water heater I would need to remove a section of the kitchen flooring (that’s what the last owners did when they had the house plumbed with indoor water).

At that point, I might just say to heck with it and get an on-demand water heater that I can have installed somewhere and just leave the old water heater in the cellar.

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Luckily we caught the leak as it happened, minimal damage to the floor, but still has to be fixed and a new set. All the appliances are starting to go. It’s like a 10-15 year cycle.

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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 11:25:03pm

re: #305 teleskiguy

It’s ‘tomorrow’ in Colorado. I figure it’s on account of the ‘w.’

Been that way in Chicagoland for a while now.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 11:25:12pm

Another conservative snowflake triggered (some comments mock the guy as he richly deserves):

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Ace-o-aces  May 30, 2017 • 11:26:48pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 11:27:12pm

re: #305 teleskiguy

It’s ‘tomorrow’ in Colorado. I figure it’s on account of the ‘w.’

It’s “tomorrow” in the Nebraska Panhandle as well. To heck with the rest of the state, we’ll stick with Denver and Cheyenne.

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 11:29:04pm

re: #310 Anymouse

Sure, sure, sure…you made it shitty on purpose Mr. Artist guy.

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Ace-o-aces  May 30, 2017 • 11:29:34pm
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fern01  May 30, 2017 • 11:32:22pm

re: #171 Anymouse

I’m guessing a rodent copulator would write that on their Facebook page. Still in CT mode here.

None of the Sanders supporters here took up neo-Nazi racist themes. Could there be a Sanders supporter that did so? Sure, I guess.

Bernie Sanders is a fairly non-violent guy. Someone who claimed to be a Sanders supporter being violent against a pair of teenagers because “scary Muslim” seems to pat. It fits right into the magic balance fairy argument of “both sides do it.”

When Sanders lost the primary - he swapped to Trump. NOT fake news.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 11:36:10pm

re: #315 fern01

When Sanders lost the primary - he swapped to Trump. NOT fake news.

I would need to see a credible reference to him endorsing Trump.

He certainly didn’t help the Democrats much, but not helping (or even attacking) the Democrats is not the same as “swapping to Trump.”

For example, Gary “Aleppo” Johnson also attacked the Democrats, but that did not make him a Trump endorser. (Dr. Jill Stein I’m not so sure about: She was at the RT dinner with Michael Flynn and Vladimir Putin, Bernie Sanders was not.)

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Odie Hugh Manatee  May 30, 2017 • 11:37:05pm

“Give me liberty or give me covfefe!”

“Frankly my Dear, I don’t give a covfefe.”

Time to read the thread… :)

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JordanRules  May 30, 2017 • 11:37:29pm

re: #317 Odie Hugh Manatee

It’s fun!

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 11:38:45pm

Someone on Twitter suggested another possibility: Donald Trump dropped his cell phone in the toilet.

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Birth Control Works  May 30, 2017 • 11:39:58pm

have a good night/morning/dark time all

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 11:46:50pm

covfefe.com directs to an enquiry page at GoDaddy (do you want to purchase the domain from the owner)

covfefe.org redirects to a real estate firm

covfefe.info and covfefe.us goes to GoDaddy saying it is “parked for free” (I’m not sure what that means)

covfefe.ca is a 1x1 gif image (?)

I tried .mx but my telephone company says it blocks .mx domains as “possible spam” (they’re going to get a call from me)

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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 11:49:38pm

Oh, by the Zev Zev I lay
thinking only of covfefe.
By Zev I lay
all the day
thinking only
of covfefe.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 12:22:50am

It’s official: I am now fifty-seven.

Now what do I do? I guess it’s rum o’clock.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 12:28:18am

LOL

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JordanRules  May 31, 2017 • 12:32:00am

re: #323 Anymouse

Happy born day!!

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 12:45:36am

re: #325 JordanRules

Happy born day!!

I have completed for the fifty-seventh time an orbit to an arbitrary point along Earth’s path around the sun. In celebration of arbitrary points, I lift a glass with Sailor Jerry’s rum mixed into some concoction (probably Kool-Aid, and maybe grapefruit juice later).

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wheat-dogg  May 31, 2017 • 12:49:45am

re: #326 Anymouse

I have reached for the fifty-seventh time an arbitrary point along Earth’s orbit. In celebration of arbitrary points, I lift a glass with Sailor Jerry’s rum mixed into some concoction (probably Kool-Aid, and maybe grapefruit juice later).

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wheat-dogg  May 31, 2017 • 12:52:11am

Meme found on steemit.com. Beware, it involves snakes, mouths and in particular, Trump’s mouth. It’s a riff on American Horror Story. Perhaps NSFW.

steemit.com

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Cheechako  May 31, 2017 • 12:52:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 31, 2017 • 12:54:41am

re: #177 Anymouse

McCain tells America’s allies: Trump unsettles Americans too

McCain is still a politician at heart, but I sense that he is just biding his time to settle a personal score with an arrogant draft-dodger who impugned his service record (the only thing about him I still admire) with a flippant remark.

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wheat-dogg  May 31, 2017 • 12:56:23am

re: #329 Cheechako

I miss the days when presidents walked the Earth*. Now it seems they need golf carts.

*Yes, I know FDR had polio and used a wheelchair, but sometimes he’d wear leg braces so he could stand while orating. I bet FDR could still beat Trump in a race on land or in the water.

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wheat-dogg  May 31, 2017 • 12:58:18am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

McCain is still a politician at heart, but I sense that he is just biding his time to settle a personal score with an arrogant draft-dodger who impugned his service record (the only thing about him I still admire) with a flippant remark.

I’m not holding my breath waiting on McCain to do anything substantive. If he decides this will be last term in office, then just maybe he’ll go into attack mode. Attacking Trump publicly would probably kill any chance of re-election, at least right now.

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wheat-dogg  May 31, 2017 • 12:59:24am

Video job done. Now I get to grade papers. Back to lurker mode, while I have a nice cup of covfefe to keep me alertete.

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freetoken  May 31, 2017 • 1:02:42am
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wheat-dogg  May 31, 2017 • 1:02:43am

I couldn’t resist. I inquired about covfefe.com. The owner wants at least $10,000.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 1:04:45am

re: #327 wheat-dogg

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 1:06:32am

re: #331 wheat-dogg

I miss the days when presidents walked the Earth*. Now it seems they need golf carts.

*Yes, I know FDR had polio and used a wheelchair, but sometimes he’d wear leg braces so he could stand while orating. I bet FDR could still beat Trump in a race on land or in the water.

I’ll bet he could beat Mr. Trump with leg braces (to use a Wonkette turn of phrase, yeah, with votes).

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freetoken  May 31, 2017 • 1:13:49am
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rhuarc  May 31, 2017 • 1:32:17am

This place is kind of boring overnight US time! I actually have to do work and can’t procrastinate reading LGF while in China for the next 2 weeks. :) BOOO!

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wheat-dogg  May 31, 2017 • 1:38:52am

re: #339 rhuarc

This place is kind of boring overnight US time! I actually have to do work and can’t procrastinate reading LGF while in China for the next 2 weeks. :) BOOO!

A brief delurk: how’s the stay so far?

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goddamnedfrank  May 31, 2017 • 1:43:14am

Just got back from Guardians of the Galaxy 2. It was completely covfefe.

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rhuarc  May 31, 2017 • 1:43:26am

re: #340 wheat-dogg

A brief delurk: how’s the stay so far?

Don’t know yet. Only got here at 5:30pm local time yesterday. Just enough time for a quick dinner with the client and some colleagues before passing out.

I will say one thing, though. Thankfully I didn’t rent a car. These people are crazy on the road! I learned quickly (1 cab ride) to not pay attention to the driving as it can be dangerous to my health!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 31, 2017 • 1:44:42am

re: #339 rhuarc

This place is kind of boring overnight US time! I actually have to do work and can’t procrastinate reading LGF while in China for the next 2 weeks. :) BOOO!

yes, I usually come on line just about the time the thread goes to sleep

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 1:48:18am

re: #342 rhuarc

Don’t know yet. Only got here at 5:30pm local time yesterday. Just enough time for a quick dinner with the client and some colleagues before passing out.

I will say one thing, though. Thankfully I didn’t rent a car. These people are crazy on the road! I learned quickly (1 cab ride) to not pay attention to the driving as it can be dangerous to my health!

Well, usually I am up later, but I had a rough day today. (That overnight boring part is me around here.)

Catch y’all later.

The overnight guinea pig for Curious Lurker …

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Shiplord Kirel  May 31, 2017 • 1:52:34am

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 2:00:11am

Y’all benefit from me on bonus time (you unlucky devils you). I found some cranberry juice, which is a vast improvement as a rum mixer over Kool-Aid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 31, 2017 • 2:04:20am

re: #346 Anymouse

Y’all benefit from me on bonus time (you unlucky devils you). I found some cranberry juice, which is a vast improvement as a rum mixer over Kool-Aid.

never thought to combine cranberry with anything but vodka

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wheat-dogg  May 31, 2017 • 2:06:14am

re: #342 rhuarc

Don’t know yet. Only got here at 5:30pm local time yesterday. Just enough time for a quick dinner with the client and some colleagues before passing out.

I will say one thing, though. Thankfully I didn’t rent a car. These people are crazy on the road! I learned quickly (1 cab ride) to not pay attention to the driving as it can be dangerous to my health!

For sure. China makes it very hard and costly to get a drivers license, but once you have it, the rules of the road are merely advisories. The traffic cops in the big cities are more strict, but that’s only a relative term.

Similarly, it’s very difficult to get into university, but relatively easy to graduate. It is almost unheard of for a school to flunk out a student, and I learned quickly that my attempts to hold students accountable for their work performance would have no real effect, other than requiring they take a new final exam.

In fact, as a general observation about China, laws, rules and regulations on paper are only there for show. No one really expects you to enforce them or follow them, until it is convenient to do so.

This particular behavior by Congress and the GOP scares me, because they seem quite willing now to ignore the rule of law — the very thing that people around the world admire about the USA — for political expedience.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 2:15:48am

re: #347 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

never thought to combine cranberry with anything but vodka

Cranberry juice combines with anything (except Jagermeister, but then nothing combines with that).

It’s also a heap bit expensive in a bar around here if you don’t get alcohol with it (about $3 a glass).

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 2:19:17am

re: #348 wheat-dogg

For sure. China makes it very hard and costly to get a drivers license, but once you have it, the rules of the road are merely advisories. The traffic cops in the big cities are more strict, but that’s only a relative term.

Similarly, it’s very difficult to get into university, but relatively easy to graduate. It is almost unheard of for a school to flunk out a student, and I learned quickly that my attempts to hold students accountable for their work performance would have no real effect, other than requiring they take a new final exam.

In fact, as a general observation about China, laws, rules and regulations on paper are only there for show. No one really expects you to enforce them or follow them, until it is convenient to do so.

This particular behavior by Congress and the GOP scares me, because they seem quite willing now to ignore the rule of law — the very thing that people around the world admire about the USA — for political expedience.

That is exactly what the GOP wants though, at least from their behaviour: The ability to ignore the law except when it is convenient to obey it.

The small “l” libertarians in the GOP have done a much better job of forwarding Ayn Rand’s vision of a society where everyone is a failure unless born into a fortune of millions of bootstraps than the Libertarian Party ever has.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 2:27:12am

The folk in Portland, Ore. who have to deal with the upcoming Nazi rally need this guy from Columbia, South Carolina trolling the Ku Klux Klan with a sousaphone

KKK marchers going to Rally

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 2:32:51am

David Pakman goes into my congressman Adrian Smith’s (R-NE3) question of whether Americans are entitled to eat in his interview last Saturday on NPR. Rep. Smith tried to divert from the subject by saying “nutrition is important” while NPR’s interviewer kept coming back to the question “Is every American entitled to eat” and wouldn’t let him off the hook.

GOP Congressman Won’t Say Every American Is Entitled To Eat

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 31, 2017 • 2:40:26am

re: #352 Anymouse

David Pakman goes into my congressman Adrian Smith’s (R-NE3) question of whether Americans are entitled to eat in his interview last Saturday on NPR. Rep. Smith tried to divert from the subject by saying “nutrition is important” while NPR’s interviewer kept coming back to the question “Is every American entitled to eat” and wouldn’t let him off the hook.

He cannot bring himself to say it, but basically I am sure that if you pressed him, he would compare feeding the poor to feeding vermin like the Lt. Governor of SC once did…

Or he could just quote Lenin: “Those who do not work, do not eat!”

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fern01  May 31, 2017 • 3:00:12am

re: #329 Cheechako

Miss me yet? (From 2014)

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Video

He is so missed - #45 cannot even walk 700 yards - and imagine how most would react if they saw him.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 31, 2017 • 3:00:38am
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Dave In Austin  May 31, 2017 • 3:05:14am
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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 3:10:01am

re: #353 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He cannot bring himself to say it, but basically I am sure that if you pressed him, he would compare feeding the poor to feeding vermin like the Lt. Governor of SC once did…

Or he could just quote Lenin: “Those who do not work, do not eat!”

Mr. Smith is not my congressman, he only occupies the seat for my district. He is on record saying he only represents Republicans.

Lenin’s argument is strikingly similar to Calvinist Christianity (a version to which Mr. Smith adheres).

Like everything else, it is projection with Movement Conservative. Democrats are not anti-life, Republicans are.

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wheat-dogg  May 31, 2017 • 3:10:01am

re: #355 Shiplord Kirel

Meg Whitman ran for the Republican nomination for governor of CA, and lost that race. Later, she endorsed Hillary Clinton across party lines. I suspect there is no love lost between Meg and The Donald.

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wheat-dogg  May 31, 2017 • 3:11:06am

I have finished almost all of my school work for the day. Just in time for dinner!

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 3:13:49am

re: #358 wheat-dogg

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wheat-dogg  May 31, 2017 • 3:19:28am

re: #360 Anymouse

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 3:27:50am

re: #361 wheat-dogg

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wheat-dogg  May 31, 2017 • 3:32:40am

re: #362 Anymouse

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 3:42:44am

More on Meg Whitman:

She spent $144 million of her own money to buy the California governor’s office in 2010. Even Daily Caller went so far as to call her out, accusing her of vastly overpaying for advertising on conservative blogging platforms’ advertising in an effort to influence their content.

The Scramento Bee reported in 2010 after reviewing her voting registration, Meg Whitman had not voted in over twenty years; Meg Whitman gave a non-pology describing her voting record as “inexcusable.”

From 2000-2009, Meg Whitman employed an undocumented migrant as a housekeeper, while in her campaign she harangued on undocumented immigrants. She claimed that though the Social Security Administration repeatedly wrote her from 2003 onward about a fake Social Security number, she never received any of the letters from SSA and claimed it was a political attack and the fault of the Post Office that she received no notifications for six years.

When the information was printed in the Bee, her own campaign manager stated it was for the “good of the campaign” when she fired her housekeeper (IOKIYAR)

During her campaign, she still was a member of Goldman-Sachs board. She benefited from “spinning” (that is, getting early deals on IPOs that GS tipped their board on before an IPO was offered to the public) to the tune of nearly two million dollars.

Whitman ran on reducing taxes (dog-whistle for rich tax breaks), school reform (dog-whistle for defunding public schools in favour of vouchers and private schools), and suspending AB-32 (California’s 2006 law designed to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 30%).

Nope, she gets no points for allegedly voting for Clinton over Trump. She is nothing more than a female rodent copulator.

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wheat-dogg  May 31, 2017 • 3:46:07am

re: #364 Anymouse

OK. I get it. You don’t like her. Can we drop this line of inquiry now?

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 3:48:53am

re: #365 wheat-dogg

OK. I get it. You don’t like her. Can we drop this line of inquiry now?

Sure. I don’t like her because she helped rip off my wife’s retirement fund and is a small “l” libertarian Republican hypocrite.

Feel free to defend her for endorsing Clinton over Trump if you wish.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 3:52:44am

Feel free to defend her record of demanding rounding up undocumented immigrants while she employed one for nearly seven years and only fired the housekeeper when she was exposed in the press “for the good of her campaign.”

Or not. You want to drop this line of inquiry as you put it.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 3:57:00am

I said I was going to say good-night before, now I really mean it. Time for bed (I’m fifty-seven today, I need my sleep).

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Dave In Austin  May 31, 2017 • 3:59:13am

re: #368 Anymouse

I said I was going to say good-night before, now I really mean it. Time for bed (I’m fifty-seven today, I need my sleep).

Happy Birthday Nebraska….

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 4:03:07am

re: #369 Dave In Austin

Happy Birthday Nebraska….

150 years and still growing corn and raising cattle! If someone ever arms the cattle in my county, people are doomed (half a million cattle, five thousand people).

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wheat-dogg  May 31, 2017 • 4:04:01am

re: #367 Anymouse

Feel free to defend her record of demanding rounding up undocumented immigrants while she employed one for nearly seven years and only fired the housekeeper when she was exposed in the press “for the good of her campaign.”

Or not. You want to drop this line of inquiry as you put it.

Yes, I do, because you obviously have an axe to grind and I have apparently set you off by mentioning her support of Clinton. I get the feeling you’re attacking me personally by suggesting I support everything Meg has done throughout her career, including stiffing your wife out of her retirement funds.

Well, I’m sorry that happened, but my remarks had only to do with Clinton.

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So yeah, I have said all I want to say. You can go fume about her all you like. I’m going to eat dinner, tyvm. Try to enjoy your birthday in the meantime.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 31, 2017 • 4:09:31am

re: #370 Anymouse

150 years and still growing corn and raising cattle! If someone ever arms the cattle in my county, people are doomed (half a million cattle, five thousand people).

Do you refer to this piece?

Cows with guns

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 4:11:18am

re: #358 wheat-dogg

Meg Whitman ran for the Republican nomination for governor of CA, and lost that race. Later, she endorsed Hillary Clinton across party lines. I suspect there is no love lost between Meg and The Donald.

re: #371 wheat-dogg

Yes, I do, because you obviously have an axe to grind and I have apparently set you off by mentioning her support of Clinton. I get the feeling you’re attacking me personally by suggesting I support everything Meg has done throughout her career, including stiffing your wife out of her retirement funds.

Well, I’m sorry that happened, but my remarks had only to do with Clinton.

So yeah, I have said all I want to say. You can go fume about her all you like. I’m going to eat dinner, tyvm. Try to enjoy your birthday in the meantime.

Nowhere in my commentary did I attack you personally. Please re-read what I wrote.

I attacked Meg Whitman’s record. You claimed that she was “party over country” for allegedly supporting Clinton over Trump. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

And with that, good-night (or good morning since the sun is coming up here.)

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Dave In Austin  May 31, 2017 • 4:26:57am

re: #370 Anymouse

150 years and still growing corn and raising cattle! If someone ever arms the cattle in my county, people are doomed (half a million cattle, five thousand people).

Actually Anymouse, that was meant for you…. ;0)

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Dave In Austin  May 31, 2017 • 4:28:54am

re: #373 Anymouse

You guys knock is off. It’s Wend. For cryin out loud.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 4:33:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 4:34:15am

guess he just now found out about this:

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 5:04:46am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

guess he just now found out about this:

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Fox just had a “panel of concerned mothers” on. I couldn’t stomach it for long, but the first two I watched were both attorneys. They were all upper middle class. The Kathy Griffin thing was a big concern because “scarring the kiddies.” The other topics were how the Russia thing is a distraction from the real stuff and the left attacking Trump because of resentment over the election. Got through that entire post without a single fefe (iron-iron).

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 5:05:01am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

guess he just now found out about this:

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So delicate. What KG did was stupid, wrong, & I’m glad she apologized but something tells me if Obama or Clinton brought Nugent up, they’d be mocked. Bringing his son into it is cringeworthy too.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 5:07:11am

re: #378 Barefoot Grin

Fox just had a “panel of concerned mothers” on. I couldn’t stomach it for long, but the first two I watched were both attorneys. They were all upper middle class. The Kathy Griffin thing was a big concern because “scarring the kiddies.” The other topics were how the Russia thing is a distraction from the real stuff and the left attacking Trump because of resentment over the election. Got through that entire post without a single fefe (iron-iron).

OFFS, these are the same people who tell LGBT kids that bullying is part of growing up and they’re claiming they kids are going to be scarred by an obscure comedian’s photo shoot? Man FNC is getting even more pathetic if possible.

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Timothy Watson  May 31, 2017 • 5:09:12am

re: #380 HappyWarrior

OFFS, these are the same people who tell LGBT kids that bullying is part of growing up and they’re claiming they kids are going to be scarred by an obscure comedian’s photo shoot? Man FNC is getting even more pathetic if possible.

The Simpsons - Helen Lovejoy - Think of the children

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 5:10:54am

re: #381 Timothy Watson

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Haha. Seriously though. Say what Griffin did was distasteful, acknowledge she apologized, & move on but I get it FNC needs to scare their easily conned viewers.

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 5:11:05am

re: #380 HappyWarrior

OFFS, these are the same people who tell LGBT kids that bullying is part of growing up and they’re claiming they kids are going to be scarred by an obscure comedian’s photo shoot? Man FNC is getting even more pathetic if possible.

Exactly so.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 5:12:37am

Call kids sensitive for being bothered by racism and then say kids are so so sensitive about a tweet that was deleted. FNC: We pull it out of Rupert’s then. You decide.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 5:14:22am

re: #383 Barefoot Grin

Exactly so.

FNC is at its most pathetic with Republicans in charge because that means you can forget any legitimate criticism of the executive branch.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 5:17:16am

Morning.

So President Trump was nodding off while tweeting and it is a thing. Okay.

I guess America needs to find some humor in the foolishness of Trump.

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 5:18:04am

re: #385 HappyWarrior

FNC is at its most pathetic with Republicans in charge because that means you can forget any legitimate criticism of the executive branch.

There was talk that the Murdoch sons were going to change directions after Ailes, but from the little I watch (it’s like picking at a scab) it’s full speed ahead.

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Timothy Watson  May 31, 2017 • 5:19:07am

re: #387 Barefoot Grin

There was talk that the Murdoch sons were going to change directions after Ailes, but from the little I watch (it’s like picking at a scab) it’s full speed ahead.

Probably terrified of losing more viewers.

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jeffreyw  May 31, 2017 • 5:19:49am

Imgur
Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 5:20:13am

re: #387 Barefoot Grin

There was talk that the Murdoch sons were going to change directions after Ailes, but from the little I watch (it’s like picking at a scab) it’s full speed ahead.

I had heard too.

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b.d.  May 31, 2017 • 5:28:45am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

guess he just now found out about this:

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$5 Trump had to ask somebody how old Barron was.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 5:32:49am
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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 5:34:09am

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Truth must have hurt. I agree though. I feel bad for Barron too.

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b.d.  May 31, 2017 • 5:39:23am

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lol, I bet he blocked him because he called him an orange skinned tyrant rather commenting on his parenting skills….funny nonetheless.

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BlueSpotinAL  May 31, 2017 • 5:39:58am

re: #332 wheat-dogg

How old is McCain now, a hundred? If he was going to do something, he would have done it by now.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 5:41:26am

re: #395 BlueSpotinAL

How old is McCain now, a hundred? If he was going to do something, he would have done it by now.

Turns 80 this summer I wanna say. But yes he’s useless when it comes to actually holding the GOP accountable since he’s two faced.

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 5:51:12am

Trump to world leaders:

THE GAP BAND - beep a freak - 1984

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 5:51:48am

re: #396 HappyWarrior

Turns 80 this summer I wanna say. But yes he’s useless when it comes to actually holding the GOP accountable since he’s two faced.

Seriously, only 80? He’s gotta be at least 95 by now. Approaching Strom Thurmond age levels in the Senate.

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 5:54:17am

re: #378 Barefoot Grin

Fox just had a “panel of concerned mothers” on. I couldn’t stomach it for long, but the first two I watched were both attorneys. They were all upper middle class. The Kathy Griffin thing was a big concern because “scarring the kiddies.” The other topics were how the Russia thing is a distraction from the real stuff and the left attacking Trump because of resentment over the election. Got through that entire post without a single fefe (iron-iron).

FNC will be on this for a month, maybe more. It will assume wingnut legend status, the most horrific of all evil liberal deeds ever, except for maybe Benghazi.

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BlueSpotinAL  May 31, 2017 • 5:55:31am

re: #342 rhuarc

Don’t know yet. Only got here at 5:30pm local time yesterday. Just enough time for a quick dinner with the client and some colleagues before passing out.

I will say one thing, though. Thankfully I didn’t rent a car. These people are crazy on the road! I learned quickly (1 cab ride) to not pay attention to the driving as it can be dangerous to my health!

Just got back from 2 weeks in China. I was talking to a young man in the taxi stand at the Beijing airport. I told him that driving like the Chinese do would never work in the US. Basically, if you can get the nose of your car slightly in front of the neighboring car, the other driver will usually slow down just enough to let them in. In the US, that driver would think “No fucking way!” and speed up, maybe even hitting you. The young man joked that this way of driving doesn’t work in China, either.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 5:55:32am

re: #399 Sir John Barron

FNC will be on this for a month, maybe more. It will assume wingnut legend status, the most horrific of all evil liberal deeds ever, except for maybe Benghazi.

And we will be told that no liberals condemned it because that’s the narrative FNC wants.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 31, 2017 • 5:55:59am

The Google Doodle is the goddess Covfefe

Goddess Covfefe

Not really, it’s the architect Zaha Hadid

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darthstar  May 31, 2017 • 5:59:54am
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darthstar  May 31, 2017 • 6:02:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 6:03:41am
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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 6:05:38am

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gee his lawyers are doing a a great job monitoring his tweets. We’re seeing a man have a breakdown on Twitter. The trouble? He’s our President.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 6:06:03am

And yeah he did accuse Brennan and Comey of perjury.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 6:06:05am
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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 6:10:27am

re: #408 Backwoods_Sleuth

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God if that’s not a metaphor for what this country is becoming, I don’t know what is.

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 6:11:49am

re: #409 HappyWarrior

God if that’s not a metaphor for what this country is becoming, I don’t know what is.

Not waiting for the meteor to come, we’re going out to meet it.

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 6:12:56am

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

“It is reported” is the new “some people say”.

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lawhawk  May 31, 2017 • 6:13:13am

But yeah, let’s talk about Covfefe. Let the media spend the morning distracting from what’s going on. That Trump is absolutely clueless about national security and operational security:

Or perhaps that Lewandowski’s possibly going to rejoin the Trump cabal of cronies, mostly because he’s a loyal Trumptwit who’ll say and do anything for Trump, and that’s what Trump prized over all else, including competency.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 6:13:41am
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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 6:13:59am

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

case against him & now wants to clear his name by showing “the false or misleading testimony by James Comey, John Brennan…” Witch Hunt!

— Donald J. Trump

Everybody’s lying except for my guy.

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Amory Blaine  May 31, 2017 • 6:14:07am

Ahh. A new day. I hope NPR interviews a Trump voter and reminds me of how my hope for progress was unkind and that I’m destroying America.

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 6:15:22am

re: #412 lawhawk

BREAKING: President Trump has been urging world leaders to call him on his cellphone, raising security and secrecy concerns.

— The Associated Press

At least we avoided the lady with the emails.

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 6:16:20am

re: #412 lawhawk

Kathy Griffin should be ashamed of herself. My children, especially my 11 year old son, Barron, are having a hard time with this. Sick!

— Donald J. Trump

I wonder how your son reacted to the Grab ‘em by the p**** recording?

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 6:16:21am

re: #412 lawhawk

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Corey, I knew Ronald Regan, I did not like Ronald Reagan, but Ronald Reagan could communicate better than Trump could when he had full on Alzheimers.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 6:17:06am

re: #415 Amory Blaine

Ahh. A new day. I hope NPR interviews a Trump voter and reminds me of how my hope for progress was unkind and that I’m destroying America.

I’m sick of them. I really am.

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lawhawk  May 31, 2017 • 6:17:30am

re: #417 Sir John Barron

I wonder how your son reacted to the Grab ‘em by the p**** recording?

Daddy, why are pictures of mommy naked all over the Internet?

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 6:17:59am

re: #417 Sir John Barron

I wonder how your son reacted to the Grab ‘em by the p**** recording?

Seriously. There’s nothing more pathetic when Trump pretends to be outraged by stuff that is tame compared to his own actions.

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lawhawk  May 31, 2017 • 6:18:20am
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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 6:18:50am

re: #420 lawhawk

Daddy, why are pictures of mommy naked all over the Internet?

Dad, I’m confused, you said Ivanka was my sister but you treat her more like a girlfriend.

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covfefe  May 31, 2017 • 6:25:25am

Time to start my day now that I’ve had my full cup of covfefe.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 31, 2017 • 6:26:54am

em>re: #142 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I continue to be interested to hear how that (sous vide) works for you. mr. klys has nearly gotten me one before as a birthday present and while this year’s birthday present (arriving tomorrow!) is a running GPS watch (OH MAN I’M GONNA GO DATA-NUTS), there’s always anniversary and Christmas…

And I cook a lot more these days.

It’s the best device evah. $150 circulating water bath. If you bought that from Fisher Scientific, it’d cost you $2500. And, it’s almost like cheating with meat. Dial in the temp for the doneness you want your lamb. cow, pig, etc. Immerse. Let sit for 2 hrs. Take out and finish in a hot cast iron skillet or on the grill, amaze.

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Amory Blaine  May 31, 2017 • 6:29:16am

re: #389 jeffreyw

Isn’t that yesterdays breakfast?

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jeffreyw  May 31, 2017 • 6:30:38am

re: #425 Colère Tueur de Lapin

em>re: #142 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s the best device evah. $150 circulating water bath. If you bought that from Fisher Scientific, it’d cost you $2500. And, it’s almost like cheating with meat. Dial in the temp for the doneness you want your lamb. cow, pig, etc. Immerse. Let sit for 2 hrs. Take out and finish in a hot cast iron skillet or on the grill, amaze.

Sous vide is killer app for steaks:

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jeffreyw  May 31, 2017 • 6:33:11am

re: #426 Amory Blaine

Isn’t that yesterdays breakfast?

Ack! I plead confefe!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 6:36:20am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 31, 2017 • 6:36:30am

And, with sous vide cooking, you can cook at much lower temperature than USDA recommended “properly cooked.” USDA times are based on short cooking times and on conventional cooking techniques. Because of the extended cooking time, you are pasteurizing whatever it is that you are cooking. So, a rack of lamb cooked at 133 deg F for 5 hours (mass of meat needs to reach an equilibrium) then finished on the outside with some technique to sear (you want to develop that maillard reaction for flavor and firmness) you get the best meat, always perfectly done without any food safety concerns (if that’s a concern of yours)

Put your hamburger patties in the sous vide at 125 deg F (med rare) for 2 hours, no worries about E. coli/Salmonella/Listeria

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 6:37:50am

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Corey: I just say whatever words sound great about Trump and have no idea what the fuck I’m talking about.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 31, 2017 • 6:39:43am

re: #427 jeffreyw

Sous vide is killer app for steaks:

Did baby sheep double cut rib chops on Sun. and finished with my propane torch fitted with my glass bead-making head. Perfect med rare. Perfect sear.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 31, 2017 • 6:40:11am

He is going to pull us out of the accord. Just tragic. The “Shining Light” is being switched off. The shining city deliberately tarnished, run down and dangerous. Thanks Donald. Die In Jail.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 31, 2017 • 6:40:53am

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is the exact opposite of good communication.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 6:41:59am

re: #433 Unshaken Defiance

He is going to pull us out of the accord. Just tragic. The “Shining Light” is being switched off. The shining city deliberately tarnished run down and dangerous. Thanks Donald. Die In Jail.

What’s frustrating is liberals instead of having a chance (though I will say Obama wsa able to do it in health care and LGBT rights), but instead of being able to move forward, it seems that yet another Dem president will be stuck cleaning up a mess. It’s going to take someone with great people skills to clean up the mess of alienated allies that Trump has left in our wake.

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 6:44:31am

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Excoriate” is a favorite Hannity word. Thinks it makes him sound smart.

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Targetpractice  May 31, 2017 • 6:45:37am

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Translation: Trump’s speech is so muddled that only people who’ve spent any time around him can translate what he’s saying.

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 6:45:55am

re: #436 Barefoot Grin

“Excoriate” is a favorite Hannity word. Thinks it makes him sound smart.

I excoriate all the covfefe

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 6:46:19am

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That was true of Chairman Mao at the end, too. Only a handful of people could interpret his slurred Hunan dialect.

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 6:46:50am

re: #438 Sir John Barron

I excoriate all the covfefe

I will throw you a confefe parade!

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 6:47:22am

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

My preexisting relationships are great, the best. Better than my actual relationships.

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 6:47:25am

re: #435 HappyWarrior

What’s frustrating is liberals instead of having a chance (though I will say Obama wsa able to do it in health care and LGBT rights), but instead of being able to move forward, it seems that yet another Dem president will be stuck cleaning up a mess. It’s going to take someone with great people skills to clean up the mess of alienated allies that Trump has left in our wake.

The consequence of Trumps action is that the US will no longer be negotiating from a position of leadership. Instead, we will just be one more voice at the table. Where this will really hurt is, as the US refuses to take necessary actions on its part, countries such as those in Europe (and China), will have fewer reasons to hold back on things like blocking imports from the US for noncompliance.

While this will bode well for some things (countries should be less afraid to stand up to us for things like invading other countries), overall the world is going to be more fractured for a while, which will lead to more regional conflicts.

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 6:51:01am

Oh, and my theory on “convfefe” is he was mostly asleep while typing and managed to hit send as he dosed off.

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Birth Control Works  May 31, 2017 • 6:52:09am

free vintage posters

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Targetpractice  May 31, 2017 • 6:59:14am

So, I see Trump is back to his election-year antics, this time accusing someone of committing perjury.

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lawhawk  May 31, 2017 • 7:02:57am

re: #445 Targetpractice

Oldies but goodies. It’s what Trump always does. He always retreats to what he knows/does best. Attack and deflect attention from the bad stuff he does. Project his own actions on to others. And so far, he’s read the media better than the media has at recognizing they’re being played by Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2017 • 7:04:18am

So I see that Trump’s pulled out of the Paris Climate Accords. Can’t say I’m surprised - this was telegraphed a few days ago.

China is waiting in the wings……they will now reap the green energy tech/foreign policy karma from this debacle. Europe stands to gain as well. But China, I think, will gain the most.

The Asian Century has begun.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 7:08:43am

re: #434 Colère Tueur de Lapin

That is the exact opposite of good communication.

Heh exactly.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 7:09:35am

re: #442 Belafon

The consequence of Trumps action is that the US will no longer be negotiating from a position of leadership. Instead, we will just be one more voice at the table. Where this will really hurt is, as the US refuses to take necessary actions on its part, countries such as those in Europe (and China), will have fewer reasons to hold back on things like blocking imports from the US for noncompliance.

While this will bode well for some things (countries should be less afraid to stand up to us for things like invading other countries), overall the world is going to be more fractured for a while, which will lead to more regional conflicts.

Exactly.

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FormerDirtDart  May 31, 2017 • 7:11:55am

Anyone in, or know someone, the great northwest that might cherish this almost delicacy?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 7:12:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 7:15:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 7:16:13am
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(Bert the Turtle)  May 31, 2017 • 7:17:23am
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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 7:21:54am

I wish like hell someone would excoriate our damn president and then remove him from office so we can get past this national/world embarrassment.

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Targetpractice  May 31, 2017 • 7:23:04am

re: #452 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Meanwhile, the current word from the Senate is basically that Trumpcare is DOA.

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 7:28:09am

re: #452 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pass 51 votes immediately just like Democrats like.

Also, too, covnfefe

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 31, 2017 • 7:29:09am

re: #455 ObserverArt

I wish like hell someone would excoriate defenestrate (onto spikes) our damn president and then remove him from office the entire WH staff so we can get past this national/world embarrassment.

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 7:29:42am

re: #456 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, the current word from the Senate is basically that Trumpcare is DOA.

I’m legitimately surprised that it’s almost June and the GOP has done….covfefe.

Do they know they control both houses of Congress and the WH?

Not that I’m bothered that this group has done nothing but confefe.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 7:30:36am

remind me again why we should the GOP run anything?

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 7:34:00am

re: #460 HappyWarrior

remind me again why we should the GOP run anything?

Because they will allow you to abuse women, rob the poor, and kill minorities.

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Targetpractice  May 31, 2017 • 7:34:06am

re: #459 Sir John Barron

I’m legitimately surprised that it’s almost June and the GOP has done….covfefe.

Do they know they control both houses of Congress and the WH?

Not that I’m bothered that this group has done nothing but confefe.

The GOP has two problems that are compounding each other: An unpopular president and little margin for error in votes. Senator Yertle can only get Trumpcare passed through reconciliation, and that means finding 51 votes prepared to commit political seppuku to strip 23 million Americans of healthcare.

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lawhawk  May 31, 2017 • 7:36:19am

Trump is the great communicator, but it takes a cabal of cronies to interpret what the witless wonder says or is thinking.

That’s the opposite of being a great communicator. That means the guy is addled and needs a bunch of handlers/interpreters to figure out what he actually means (or substitute their own.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 7:40:30am

re: #456 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, the current word from the Senate is basically that Trumpcare is DOA.

I figured that was the current state. I think the little bit of video that showed up here yesterday with Kansas Republican Senator Pat Roberts telling a group of protesters “Medicare is the answer” and “single payer is on the table” was an indication it was a mess in the Senate.

Maybe Trump might try tweeting some Republicans in the Senate and see if they can tell him what’s going on. He doesn’t seem to know. I guess he’s too busy being Trump to care.

By the way…in case anyone missed the Robert’s comments here is a link to a DailyKos article.

Ks Senator Pat Roberts tells protestors Medicare is the answer and Single payer is on the table”

I wonder if Roberts was allowed to say that by Mitch or if he is flying solo? Maybe Roberts gets excoriated by the Senate for his comments.

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 7:42:37am

This really means that early and multi-day voting is something voters like, even if they won’t admit it, but:

In the first day of early voting for Georgia’s 6th District congressional runoff, 712 Cobb voters showed up to cast their ballot early, according to Cobb elections.

Turnout Tuesday was more than four times greater than the first day of early voting for the original race on April 18, which only saw 160 Cobb voters vote in person.

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lawhawk  May 31, 2017 • 7:44:21am

re: #464 ObserverArt

Zombie Trumpcare is still an option; the GOP can’t be trusted that this is a dead issue until we see the corpse riddled with silver bullets, stakes through the heart, and scattered to the four winds. And even then, the GOP is craven enough to try and sneak one past everyone, including their own witless wonder representatives who’ll vote on a bill that isn’t scored and goes after preexisting conditions all because they get their sweet tax cuts for millionaires like Trump so they can claim that they ended Obamacare (and made life harder for millions of Americans in the process).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 31, 2017 • 7:46:59am

Unsurprisingly the Portland murderer is a proud RWNJ “patriot” who’s glad that he murdered Liberals.

We know where he was radicalized. Now when do we root out his whole terror network?

cnn.com

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 7:47:56am

re: #452 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think DJT should just declare that Obamacare is repealed. What would it matter that no such vote in congress has taken place? His followers would swoon, FNC would quickly line up guests to affirm that Obamacare was in fact repealed, Hannity could attack the ‘conspiracy theorists’ who claim that no repeal vote was held in Congress, etc.

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 7:48:07am

re: #467 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Unsurprisingly the Portland murderer is a proud RWNJ “patriot” who’s glad that he murdered Liberals.

We know where he was radicalized. Now when do we root out his whole terror network?

cnn.com

And when he finds out one of the guys he killed was a Republican, he’ll just say he was a librul in disguise.

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sagehen  May 31, 2017 • 7:48:59am

re: #442 Belafon

Where this will really hurt is, as the US refuses to take necessary actions on its part, countries such as those in Europe (and China), will have fewer reasons to hold back on things like blocking imports from the US for noncompliance.

Where this will really hurt… is when the Euro replaces the dollar as the world’s reserve currency.

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 7:51:28am

re: #467 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Unsurprisingly the Portland murderer is a proud RWNJ “patriot” who’s glad that he murdered Liberals.

We know where he was radicalized. Now when do we root out his whole terror network?

cnn.com

False flag! Don’t blame DT! Liberals brought it on themselves! What about leftist murderers?!?!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 7:52:47am
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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 7:59:31am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 31, 2017 • 8:01:03am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

guess he just now found out about this:

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 8:02:43am

re: #473 jaunte

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Fucking amateurs. But that’sa good thing to so many of our know nothing idiots.

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 8:02:58am

re: #473 jaunte

Great work everybody. Great job, America.

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Jay C  May 31, 2017 • 8:03:40am

Man! The one morning I had stuff to do IRL, and I log on LGF late: only to find that I’ve missed my morning covfefe!!

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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 8:03:49am

Fundamentals. Blocking and tackling. Fail and fail.

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 8:08:11am

re: #473 jaunte

We’ll be OK as long as there’s no major hurricane, damaging storm in the middle of the country, terrorist attack, or grift by a president.

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Jay C  May 31, 2017 • 8:09:11am

re: #473 jaunte

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Those numbers don’t make sense: of “662” positions being “tracked”, Griffin’s list only accounts for 559 of them. What happened to the other 103? Are those the ones simply assigned to Jared Kushner?

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 8:10:05am

re: #480 Jay C

Those numbers don’t make sense: of “662” positions being “tracked”, Griffin’s list only account for 559 of them. What happened to the other 103? Are those the ones simply assigned to Jared Kushner?

Jared is both the WH food taster and Ambassador to the Seychelles.

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carey94tt  May 31, 2017 • 8:12:22am

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel

SMOTI interviewed as a NATO expert on PRI is one of those truly bizarre through-the-looking-glass things you can’t believe could quite happen. Such things seem to happen more and more often these days though. It would be laughable on a yokel RWNJ talk show in Lubbock. For a national outlet with a heretofore decent reputation, it is just off the scale. These people are just following the ratings, no matter what kind of weird rabbit hole they lead into.

I heard that report and immediately went into a deep rant…WTAF?!?!?!. I think my wife thinks I’ve lost it.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 8:13:06am

re: #468 Sir John Barron

I think DJT should just declare that Obamacare is repealed. What would it matter that no such vote in congress has taken place? His followers would swoon, FNC would quickly line up guests to affirm that Obamacare was in fact repealed, Hannity could attack the ‘conspiracy theorists’ who claim that no repeal vote was held in Congress, etc.

He took Obamacare out on 5th Avenue and shot it.

Now it is the ACA like it should have been all along and his supporters won’t care.

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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 8:14:02am

re: #480 Jay C

Those numbers don’t make sense: of “662” positions being “tracked”, Griffin’s list only account for 559 of them. What happened to the other 103? Are those the ones simply assigned to Jared Kushner?

I can’t find which 662 they’re tracking, but the total the admin needs is more than 4,000
washingtonpost.com

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Ace-o-aces  May 31, 2017 • 8:32:11am

re: #324 Anymouse

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 8:33:27am
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bratwurst  May 31, 2017 • 8:35:43am
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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 8:37:33am

re: #487 bratwurst

Only about 30 more items to go, and Barron will know how the Obama kids felt.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 8:42:49am

re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

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See, I thought it was Gaelic for “I have no idea what the fuck I’m babbling about.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 8:43:49am

This paragraph from a WSJ Op-Ed ostensibly written by McMaster and Cohn is getting a lot of attention today, especially as it essentially confirms Merkel’s statement about not depending on us anymore.

This is a rejection of the whole of US foreign policy since WWII - you know, the one that kept us from having yet another of those increasingly bloody wars every 20-40 years that finally involved most of the planet and killed so many people that we decided to try something else.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 8:44:04am
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Unshaken Defiance  May 31, 2017 • 8:45:38am
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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 8:46:10am

re: #490 Blind Frog Belly White

This paragraph from a WSJ Op-Ed ostensibly written by McMaster and Cohn is getting a lot of attention today, especially as it essentially confirms Merkel’s statement about not depending on us anymore.

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This is a rejection of the whole of US foreign policy since WWII - you know, the one that kept us from having yet another of those increasingly bloody wars every 20-40 years that finally involved most of the planet and killed so many people that we decided to try something else.

I thought I had some respect for McMaster. No more. This is bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 8:47:00am

re: #492 Unshaken Defiance

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Seroiusly, Ann Coulter fans should be the last people bitching at Griffin who unlike Coulter actually apologized.

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Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2017 • 8:47:59am

re: #490 Blind Frog Belly White

This paragraph from a WSJ Op-Ed ostensibly written by McMaster and Cohn is getting a lot of attention today, especially as it essentially confirms Merkel’s statement about not depending on us anymore.

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This is a rejection of the whole of US foreign policy since WWII - you know, the one that kept us from having yet another of those increasingly bloody wars every 20-40 years that finally involved most of the planet and killed so many people that we decided to try something else.

Today, I had a class with two students who I’d generally have described as mildly Euroskeptic. Their attitude has changed 180 in one week. Now they’re both saying that greater EU unity and integration is imperative.

Quite a change in attitude in one week.

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Stanley Sea  May 31, 2017 • 8:49:36am

Melania just released a statement questioning the mental health of Kathy G.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 8:50:56am

re: #496 Stanley Sea

Melania just released a statement questioning the mental health of Kathy G.

Oh Jesus Christ. It was a stupid joke but one she apologized for. I don’t think Obama even diginfiied Nugent telling him to suck his gun with a comment. Tehy really want to milk this shit up for all they can get.

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 31, 2017 • 8:51:49am

re: #496 Stanley Sea

Melania just released a statement questioning the mental health of Kathy G.

Normally something like would surprise me. Not with the GoP. They take their weaknesses and project them like an Imax theater. Fuckers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 8:53:29am

re: #493 HappyWarrior

I thought I had some respect for McMaster. No more. This is bullshit.

Indeed. He was supposed to be ‘the adult in the room’.

But, it does make sense in the context of Trump’s affection for strongmen as leaders of nations, as well as his choice of billionaires, generals, and sycophants as advisers. He doesn’t believe in diplomacy, or multilateral organizations. His approach to the EU, for example, is to bitch about our trade deficit with Germany. But Germany is not a trading unit, the EU as a whole is. It’s like China complaining about a trade deficit with Nebraska.

More than that, though, his goal of ‘bilateral trade negotiations’ with every individual nation is essentially the approach of the union-busting CEO: divide and conquer.

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 8:54:06am

re: #490 Blind Frog Belly White

Does anyone have the text for this paragraph? I can’t do WSJ or twitter pictures at work.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 8:54:59am

re: #499 Blind Frog Belly White

Indeed. He was supposed to be ‘the adult in the room’.

But, it does make sense in the context of Trump’s affection for strongmen as leaders of nations, as well as his choice of billionaires, generals, and sycophants as advisers. He doesn’t believe in diplomacy, or multilateral organizations. His approach to the EU, for example, is to bitch about our trade deficit with Germany. But Germany is not a trading unit, the EU as a whole is. It’s like China complaining about a trade deficit with Nebraska.

More than that, though, his goal of ‘bilateral trade negotiations’ with every individual nation is essentially the approach of the union-busting CEO: divide and conquer.

Exactly.

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 8:56:16am

re: #490 Blind Frog Belly White

President Trump just returned from nine days in the Middle East and Europe that demonstrated his America First approach to ensuring security and prosperity for our nation. America will not lead from behind. This administration will restore confidence in American leadership as we serve the American people.

Because America First is such a great message to declare to our allies and other countries.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 8:56:34am

re: #500 Belafon

Does anyone have the text for this paragraph? I can’t do WSJ or twitter pictures at work.

The president embarked on his first foreign trip with a clear-eyed outlook that the world is not a “global community” but an arena where nations, nongovernmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage. We bring to this forum unmatched military, political, economic, cultural and moral strength. Rather than deny this elemental nature of international affairs, we embrace it.

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 8:56:56am

re: #500 Belafon

Does anyone have the text for this paragraph? I can’t do WSJ or twitter pictures at work.

Me, too. Me, either. Covfefe.

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goddamnedfrank  May 31, 2017 • 8:57:07am
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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 8:57:18am

WE really are returning to the worst mistakes of our pre WWII FP.

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Stanley Sea  May 31, 2017 • 8:57:57am
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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 8:58:40am

re: #503 HappyWarrior

The president embarked on his first foreign trip with a clear-eyed outlook that the world is not a “global community” but an arena where nations, nongovernmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage. We bring to this forum unmatched military, political, economic, cultural and moral strength. Rather than deny this elemental nature of international affairs, we embrace it.

What exactly is our “moral strength”? Our “cultural strength”?

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 8:59:46am

re: #507 Stanley Sea

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Melania, your husband attacked Alicia Machado at 3 in the morning after she called out his seism at a debate. REally fuck you and your dipshit husband. It was a stupid joke but oyu knwo what, oyu didn’t give two shits when your husband bullied Alicia Machado and the Khan family.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:00:26am

re: #508 Sir John Barron

What exactly is our “moral strength”? Our “cultural strength”?

I’m just the copy and paster. I have no diea.

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covfefe  May 31, 2017 • 9:00:58am

re: #505 goddamnedfrank

“We need to turn the country to shit in order to have our REVOLUTION!!!”

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Eventual Carrion  May 31, 2017 • 9:01:13am

Random ponder: Code reviews can be brutal sometimes.

That is all. And no, it wasn’t even my code we were reviewing.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:01:36am

re: #511 covfefe

“We need to turn the country to shit in order to have our REVOLUTION!!!”

Tehy really do believe that.

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 9:01:42am

re: #503 HappyWarrior

The president embarked on his first foreign trip with a clear-eyed outlook

Good doG….

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 9:03:14am

re: #509 HappyWarrior

Melania, your husband attacked Alicia Machado at 3 in the morning after she called out his seism at a debate. REally fuck you and your dipshit husband. It was a stupid joke but oyu knwo what, oyu didn’t give two shits when your husband bullied Alicia Machado and the Khan family.

“They do it too” is a piss-poor argument. Melania gets to enjoy her martyr cookie, provided by a brain-dead self-publicizing asshole.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:03:37am

Guys thanks for backing me up last night. AS much as I dislike Sanders, I don’t blame him for Christian’s racism and violence but I do believe it’s wrong to suggest a Sanders supporter is incapable of bigotry too and the same about a Clinton one for that matter too.

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Joe Bacon  May 31, 2017 • 9:04:16am

re: #508 Sir John Barron

What exactly is our “moral strength”? Our “cultural strength”?

Why according to RepubliKKKlans, out moral strength derives from adhering to the principles laid down by Ayn Rand.

Our cultural strength is on display—Honey Boo Boo, The Kartrashians, Paris Hilton, The Kochs, The Mercers, Rush, Fox News, Hannity…

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:04:54am

re: #515 Decatur Deb

“They do it too” is a piss-poor argument. Melania gets to enjoy her martyr cookie, provided by a brain-dead self-publicizing asshole.

Well when “they” is her husband, I think it’s perfectly legitimate. We rightfully roll our eyes when the KKK cries about “white genocide.” We should do the same to Melania doing the same to Griffin. THere’s no excuse for what Gfffith did but she did apologize and Melania remains married to a bullying prick.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:05:56am

re: #517 Joe Bacon

Why according to RepubliKKKlans, out moral strength derives from adhering to the principles laid down by Ayn Rand.

Our cultural strength is on display—Honey Boo Boo, The Kartrashians, Paris Hilton, The Kochs, The Mercers, Rush, Fox News, Hannity…

Hey now Honey Boo-Boo is actually pretty support of supportive of gay people and the Kardahsaisn di support Caitlyn in her transition.

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Bubblehead II  May 31, 2017 • 9:08:19am
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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 9:08:48am

re: #518 HappyWarrior

Well when “they” is her husband, I think it’s perfectly legitimate. We rightfully roll our eyes when the KKK cries about “white genocide.” We should do the same to Melania doing the same to Griffin. THere’s no excuse for what Gfffith did but she did apologize and Melania remains married to a bullying prick.

Give me a minute. I’m trying to type “Democrat”, “liberal”, and “self-discipline” in the same sentence, but I keep cracking up.

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Dave In Austin  May 31, 2017 • 9:09:45am

re: #519 HappyWarrior

Hey now Honey Boo-Boo is actually pretty support of supportive of gay people and the Kardahsaisn di support Caitlyn in her transition.

True, but they still inflict the travesty of dumbness on the masses (who lap it up greedily).

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 9:11:20am

re: #503 HappyWarrior

The president embarked on his first foreign trip with a clear-eyed outlook that the world is not a “global community” but an arena where nations, nongovernmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage. We bring to this forum unmatched military, political, economic, cultural and moral strength. Rather than deny this elemental nature of international affairs, we embrace it.

As a conservative friend of mine pointed out, why is it that the party that doesn’t believe in evolution embrace survival of the fittest so readily?

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:12:28am

re: #521 Decatur Deb

Give me a minute. I’m trying to type “Democrat”, “liberal”, and “self-discipline” in the same sentence, but I keep cracking up.

I’m not conding what KG did, DD but I do think Melania should shut up about Griffin’s mental health. She’s a comedian, not someone formally associated with the party. Trump was doing the shit I talked about as the Republican Party’s nominee. No excuse for what Griffith tweeted but need to differentiate too. especially in light of her apology which was actually sincere and didn’t attempt to blame anyone but herself

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:12:42am

re: #522 Dave In Austin

True, but they still inflict the travesty of dumbness on the masses (who lap it up greedily).

I was joking.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:13:37am

re: #523 Belafon

As a conservative friend of mine pointed out, why is it that the party that doesn’t believe in evolution embrace survival of the fittest so readily?

Same reason many of them comment on women’s looks even though many of them look like they’re kin of the troll from Ernest Scared Stupid?

527
Joe Bacon  May 31, 2017 • 9:13:37am

Seeing President B-hole pull out of the Paris Accords brings out the Jonathan Harris in me…

528
Stanley Sea  May 31, 2017 • 9:13:45am

Bottom line, Melania fucked up her statement by questioning anyone’s mental health.

small.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:14:57am

re: #528 Stanley Sea

Bottom line, Melania fucked up her statement by questioning anyone’s mental health.

small.

Exactly. She could have called it crass but going after mental health is a low blow. And I really think if she’s sincere about stopping bullying, she needs to talk to her husband. and his entire party.

530
caseyjr  May 31, 2017 • 9:15:17am

When we look at Picasso’s _Guernica_, we must question the mental health of the artist.
signed,
Hitler and Mussolini.

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goddamnedfrank  May 31, 2017 • 9:15:43am
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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 9:17:11am

re: #524 HappyWarrior

I’m not conding what KG did, DD but I do think Melania should shut up about Griffin’s mental health. She’s a comedian, not someone formally associated with the party. Trump was doing the shit I talked about as the Republican Party’s nominee. No excuse for what Griffith tweeted but need to differentiate too. especially in light of her apology which was actually sincere and didn’t attempt to blame anyone but herself

She has a scheduled book tour with one of the most promising of Democratic senators. (It’s still on at the moment.) We pissed away 2016 and we’re starting on a reprise for 2020.

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Jay C  May 31, 2017 • 9:18:43am

re: #508 Sir John Barron

What exactly is our “moral strength”? Our “cultural strength”?

“Cultural strength” = everbody loves Hollywood, popular TV, video games and McDonald’s. Yay Us.

“Moral strength” = Love us or we’ll kick your ass. American Exceptionalism. Yay Us.

534
HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:19:27am

re: #532 Decatur Deb

She has a scheduled book tour with one of the most promising of Democratic senators. (It’s still on at the moment.) We pissed away 2016 and we’re starting on a reprise for 2020.

Again I’m not saying it’s right but what happened happened. She apologized and was actually contrite about. Meanwhile a now elected Republican Congressman actually attacked a reporter. I’m sorry but if the masses get their panties in a frenzie over this but not the crap Trump has said and done, ten they deserve him. Idon’t excuse what Griffin said at all but I think it’s extremely fair of me to point out that Trump has made some pretty hateful and nasty remarks himself and thus Mealnia is the last person that should be questioning someone’s mental state because of commetns.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:21:01am

Are people supposed to be on egg shells because the poor widdle Trumpers might be offended by anything we say that is unflattering about their God Emperor?

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Eventual Carrion  May 31, 2017 • 9:21:19am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

guess he just now found out about this:

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Probably not as hard of a time a child will have watching one of their parents die because they couldn’t get health coverage and die of a treatable disease.

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goddamnedfrank  May 31, 2017 • 9:21:26am
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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:22:42am

re: #537 goddamnedfrank

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All his talk was stupid projecting bullshit about what was going to happen when he became President. We deserve to be laughed at after electing him.

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 9:23:08am

re: #503 HappyWarrior

The president embarked on his first foreign trip with a clear-eyed outlook that the world is not a “global community” but an arena where nations, nongovernmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage. We bring to this forum unmatched military, political, economic, cultural and moral strength. Rather than deny this elemental nature of international affairs, we embrace it.

Let’s parse where this is wrong:
1. Not a global community: No matter what he tries, Europe is going to stick together. NATO may just become the name of the European force.
2. America is smaller, economically, than Europe.
3. Just because you want the world to be at each other’s throats, it doesn’t make it that way. On the flip side, just because there are actors that want to divide the world, doesn’t mean everyone wants it.

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caseyjr  May 31, 2017 • 9:23:27am

re: #537 goddamnedfrank

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Laughing at us…
In the immortal words of Rummy, “you see, that’s just _old_ Europe.”

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 9:24:01am

re: #534 HappyWarrior

How long has it been since an LGF comment questioned Trump’s mental health?

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Apocalypse  May 31, 2017 • 9:24:42am

re: #528 Stanley Sea

I doubt she wrote it. Also, Barron (which always reminds me of the dog from Tombi!) already lives with the fact his father is a sexual predator.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:25:14am

re: #541 Decatur Deb

How long has it been since an LGF comment questioned Trump’s mental health?

Fair enough. I mean I get that it’s an emotional reaction defending her husband but as I said, her husband is the biggest bullying asshole out there.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:26:11am

re: #539 Belafon

Let’s parse where this is wrong:
1. Not a global community: No matter what he tries, Europe is going to stick together. NATO may just become the name of the European force.
2. America is smaller, economically, than Europe.
3. Just because you want the world to be at each other’s throats, it doesn’t make it that way. The flip side it, just because there are actors that want to divide the world, doesn’t mean everyone wants it.

Yep, it’s idiotic.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:27:55am

re: #540 caseyjr

Laughing at us…
In the immortal words of Rummy, “you see, that’s just _old_ Europe.”

Shit even Rummy and Bush at elast valued Democracies and the idea of NATO. That’s ohw far we’ve come. Where the bush Doctrine looks smart.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 9:29:32am

re: #503 HappyWarrior

The president embarked on his first foreign trip with a clear-eyed outlook that the world is not a “global community” but an arena where nations, nongovernmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage. We bring to this forum unmatched military, political, economic, cultural and moral strength. Rather than deny this elemental nature of international affairs, we embrace it.

Maybe McMaster wants to see another global conflict in Europe again. There are new toys to test. Trump probably thinks he can get Russia to cooperate and be our partner to take over the world and divide it up. /

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Lupin  May 31, 2017 • 9:30:18am

re: #503 HappyWarrior

The president embarked on his first foreign trip with a clear-eyed outlook that the world is not a “global community” but an arena where nations, nongovernmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage. We bring to this forum unmatched military, political, economic, cultural and moral strength. Rather than deny this elemental nature of international affairs, we embrace it.

moral strength”?

Really????

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:32:33am

re: #547 Lupin

moral strength”?

Really????

I know, right?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2017 • 9:32:50am

Today is a shit day for a lot of reasons, but especially on a personal level here.

I’ll probably be lurking for much of the day here.

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Lupin  May 31, 2017 • 9:33:52am

re: #528 Stanley Sea

Bottom line, Melania fucked up her statement by questioning anyone’s mental health.

small.

Prostitutes are generally ill-qualified to pass judgment on others.

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 31, 2017 • 9:34:15am

re: #542 Apocalypse

I doubt she wrote it. Also, Barron (which always reminds me of the dog from Tombi!) already lives with the fact his father is a sexual predator.

It has the distinct aroma of calculated GoP PR. Luntzianish.

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Jay C  May 31, 2017 • 9:34:38am

re: #541 Decatur Deb

How long has it been since an LGF comment questioned Trump’s mental health?

You mean President N.P.D. Looneytunes?

As of now, zero…..

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Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2017 • 9:35:13am

re: #546 ObserverArt

Maybe McMaster wants to see another global conflict in Europe again. There are new toys to test. Trump probably thinks he can get Russia to cooperate and be our partner to take over the world and divide it up. /

Ah, yes………Ann Coulter’s idea.

554
Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 9:35:37am

When you have to say you’re number one, you aren’t number one.

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Apocalypse  May 31, 2017 • 9:35:40am

re: #550 Lupin

That seems a bit much to call her a prostitute, Gold digger maybe.

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Joe Bacon  May 31, 2017 • 9:36:01am

Trump and the Republicans are going to get a nasty shock when the world dumps the dollar along with Treasury notes!

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Lupin  May 31, 2017 • 9:36:06am

re: #548 HappyWarrior

I know, right?

No, seriously, coming from the country that overthrew Mossadegh, Allende, napalmed Vietnam and lied to invade Iraq (thus creating ISIS), “moral strength” is just about the least argument you can use.

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Lupin  May 31, 2017 • 9:36:58am

re: #555 Apocalypse

That seems a bit much to call her a prostitute, Gold digger maybe.

Potato. po-tay-to.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 9:37:50am

re: #528 Stanley Sea

Bottom line, Melania fucked up her statement by questioning anyone’s mental health.

small.

Are we sure Melania actually made the statement? Sounds like the work of The Donny, as he probably put her up to it…or said gimme your damn phone, Imma tweet out something for you.

I think Melania may be a bit too concerned about her and Barron’s mental health than to worry about Kathy Griffin.

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 9:37:54am

re: #557 Lupin

No, seriously, coming from the country that overthrew Mossadegh, Allende, napalmed Vietnam and lied to invade Iraq (thus creating ISIS), “moral strength” is just about the least argument you can use.

You don’t think how we starve our poor, imprison minorities, and deny children the skills they need to succeed gives us moral authority?

561
piratedan  May 31, 2017 • 9:38:02am

and now Liz Spayd is out as the “Public Editor” of the NYT… good fucking riddance!

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 9:38:32am

re: #559 ObserverArt

Are we sure Melania actually made the statement? Sounds like the work of The Donny, as he probably put her up to it…or said gimme your damn phone, Imma tweet out something for you.

I think Melania may be a bit too concerned about her and Barron’s mental health than to worry about Kathy Griffin.

Are they in the same location?

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Bass Reeves  May 31, 2017 • 9:38:33am

re: #532 Decatur Deb

I do understand that you are not attempting to virtue signal, but Kathy bloody Griffin is literally the least offensive thing to happen in the past two weeks.

Killer of unarmed black man is acquitted. At least three hate crimes against minorities that lead to actual fatalities. Physical violence against reporters that gets rewarded by election. Unprovoked assault against other world leaders. Four (Five/Seven) administration/campaign officials with possible fingers in espionage. Throwing away the environment/green jobs/common sense.

And you’re actually (on the same day Trump pulls out of Paris accords) worried about Kathy Griffin not being entertaining?

*THAT* is why we would lose 2020, not because of entertainers failing to be entertaining, but we let ourselves for even an hour get distracted from actual physical violence and long term disaster, because of a photo shoot.

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 9:40:56am

re: #563 Bass Reeves

I do understand that you are not attempting to virtue signal, but Kathy bloody Griffin is literally the least offensive thing to happen in the past two weeks.

Killer of unarmed black man is acquitted. At least three hate crimes against minorities that lead to actual fatalities. Physical violence against reporters that gets rewarded by election. Unprovoked assault against other world leaders. Four (Five/Seven) administration/campaign officials with possible fingers in espionage. Throwing away the environment/green jobs/common sense.

And you’re actually (on the same day Trump pulls out of Paris accords) worried about Kathy Griffin not being entertaining?

*THAT* is why we would lose 2020, not because of entertainers failing to be entertaining, but we let ourselves for even an hour get distracted from actual physical violence and long term disaster, because of a photo shoot.

If I have a virtue, I’ll signal the hell out of it. When we are condemning pious bullshit, it is absolutely critical that we start with our own pious bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:42:09am

re: #549 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Today is a shit day for a lot of reasons, but especially on a personal level here.

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I’ll probably be lurking for much of the day here.

Hang in there.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 31, 2017 • 9:42:36am

An article on Dear Leader from a Conservative at The Daily Beast
thedailybeast.com

If only there were still more than a handful of Conservatives left to stand up to the radicalized right.

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ipsos  May 31, 2017 • 9:42:38am

((((klys))))

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caseyjr  May 31, 2017 • 9:42:44am

re: #561 piratedan

and now Liz Spayd is out as the “Public Editor” of the NYT… good fucking riddance!

You’re telling us Spayd has been neutered?
sorry, not sorry

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:42:58am

re: #553 Dr Lizardo

Ah, yes………Ann Coulter’s idea.

Can we just say it? Ann Coulter is a modern day Nazi and the media legitimized her from day one when she should have been marginalized.

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Joe Bacon  May 31, 2017 • 9:43:22am

re: #549 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So sorry. Sending a hug!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2017 • 9:43:26am

re: #565 HappyWarrior

Hang in there.

I’m mostly okay. The pain is still there, but it’s been 14 years. You learn how to live with it.

But I’m probably touchier today than normal and so it’s partially self-defense and partially just not wanting to be pissy at everyone else.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:43:43am

re: #557 Lupin

No, seriously, coming from the country that overthrew Mossadegh, Allende, napalmed Vietnam and lied to invade Iraq (thus creating ISIS), “moral strength” is just about the least argument you can use.

I think you misunderstand me, I’m agreeing with you, we- the USshouldn’t be talking about morality at all.

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Apocalypse  May 31, 2017 • 9:43:46am

re: #563 Bass Reeves

Did Mel say anything about the dual slayings? That is disturbing: Getting killed for standing up for others.

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 9:44:04am

re: #566 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

An article on Dear Leader from a Conservative at The Daily Beast
thedailybeast.com

If only there were still more than a handful of Conservatives left to stand up to the radicalized right.

I’ll read it at home, but based on the title, I’ll say this: Conservatives may not, but Reactionaries will. So, “Conservatives” need to stop enabling the reactionaries.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:44:43am

re: #563 Bass Reeves

I do understand that you are not attempting to virtue signal, but Kathy bloody Griffin is literally the least offensive thing to happen in the past two weeks.

Killer of unarmed black man is acquitted. At least three hate crimes against minorities that lead to actual fatalities. Physical violence against reporters that gets rewarded by election. Unprovoked assault against other world leaders. Four (Five/Seven) administration/campaign officials with possible fingers in espionage. Throwing away the environment/green jobs/common sense.

And you’re actually (on the same day Trump pulls out of Paris accords) worried about Kathy Griffin not being entertaining?

*THAT* is why we would lose 2020, not because of entertainers failing to be entertaining, but we let ourselves for even an hour get distracted from actual physical violence and long term disaster, because of a photo shoot.

I’ll drink to this.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:45:45am

re: #564 Decatur Deb

If I have a virtue, I’ll signal the hell out of it. When we are condemning pious bullshit, it is absolutely critical that we start with our own pious bullshit.

But we have condemned it. Saying that we don’t appreciate the hypocrisy of the right on this isn’t excusing it. It’s pointing out that the same people who are crying about what Grffitih said have themselves said just as fucked up shit.

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Bass Reeves  May 31, 2017 • 9:46:01am

re: #564 Decatur Deb

For how long? And…why? KG apologized like 12 hours ago. Job was done before you started.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:46:39am

re: #571 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m mostly okay. The pain is still there, but it’s been 14 years. You learn how to live with it.

But I’m probably touchier today than normal and so it’s partially self-defense and partially just not wanting to be pissy at everyone else.

I understand. I felt a little touchy last night and really appreicated that yo uand otehrs backed me up.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 9:47:36am

re: #532 Decatur Deb

She has a scheduled book tour with one of the most promising of Democratic senators. (It’s still on at the moment.) We pissed away 2016 and we’re starting on a reprise for 2020.

If little crap like this will cause another bad year in 2020 for the Democrats then there is a lot more in action pissing our country away. We can’t put everyone in hermetically sealed bags for two-and-a-half years. Plus, there is going to be 1,358 more episodes of Republican/Conservative outrage spells between now and then.

Our country has bigger problems than Kathy Griffin. Ignorant voters is our problem and shutting up the likes of a Kathy Griffin won’t fix that. Her dust-up is a result. The 2016 election is a result.

Side question…do you really think the Democrats pissed away an election, or the voters of this country did?

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caseyjr  May 31, 2017 • 9:47:55am

re: #574 Belafon

I’ll read it at home, but based on the title, I’ll say this: Conservatives may not, but Reactionaries will. So, “Conservatives” need to stop enabling the reactionaries.

Matt Lewis has a vidcast thing at bloggingheads.tv where he and Bill Scher, a left-leaning chap, debate the week’s events. Matt is a never-Trumper.

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 9:48:31am

re: #577 Bass Reeves

For how long? And…why? KG apologized like 12 hours ago. Job was done before you started.

Not about KG—this is a response to criticism of the Melania tweet. Her husband was grossly attacked—she (or her flack) gets to bitch about it.

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Apocalypse  May 31, 2017 • 9:50:33am

re: #581 Decatur Deb

Her husband was grossly attacked

Pardon?

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 9:50:35am

re: #579 ObserverArt

…snip
Side question…do you really think the Democrats pissed away an election, or the voters of this country did?

Yes. In no sane universe does a competent party loose an election to Donald Trump.

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 9:51:07am

re: #582 Apocalypse

Pardon?

The freakn’ photo.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 9:51:20am

re: #574 Belafon

I’ll read it at home, but based on the title, I’ll say this: Conservatives may not, but Reactionaries will. So, “Conservatives” need to stop enabling the reactionaries.

“Conservatives” need to acknowledge the problems their ideology has. I have no allusions, Idon’t think liberalism is without its flaws but conservatism has so many more flaws going for it right now especially.

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BeachDem  May 31, 2017 • 9:52:14am

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 31, 2017 • 9:52:24am

re: #583 Decatur Deb

Yes. In no sane universe does a competent party loose an election to Donald Trump.

I don’t know about the rest of the universe, but we’re not a sane country. Half of us were intentionally driven mad by far-right propagandists, and don’t know what’s real anymore.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 9:53:01am

re: #541 Decatur Deb

How long has it been since an LGF comment questioned Trump’s mental health?

How long has it been since someone somewhere in this world questioned Donny’s mental health? Ask McCain and Graham. Even McConnell if you could get him to give a straight answer. Ask Merkel and Macron.

To me these two do not match up. One is faux, one is real.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2017 • 9:53:06am
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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 9:53:37am

re: #587 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I don’t know about the rest of the universe, but we’re not a sane country. Half of us were intentionally driven mad by far-right propagandists, and don’t know what’s real anymore.

That’s reassuring.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 31, 2017 • 9:53:39am

re: #584 Decatur Deb

The freakn’ photo.

It was a sick photo, not an attack, like what Trump’s supporter in Portland did.

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 9:54:18am

I’m not worried about KG’s vile photo/video having an effect on elections. The disastrous budget, tax “reform,” and healthcare “reforms” should reduce it to an unpleasant memory at best.

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Bass Reeves  May 31, 2017 • 9:54:43am

re: #581 Decatur Deb

Nope, here’s where you lose me. Donald Trump wasn’t effing “attacked”. It was a fracking photo shoot.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 31, 2017 • 9:54:44am

re: #590 Decatur Deb

That’s reassuring.

It’s not meant to be. My advice is to continue to fight against the madmen, and donate to the Democrats who oppose them, but to also party like it’s the end of our civilization.

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 9:55:20am

re: #588 ObserverArt

How long has it been since someone somewhere in this world questioned Donny’s mental health? Ask McCain and Graham. Even McConnell if you could get him to give a straight answer. Ask Merkel and Macron.

To me these two do not match up. One is faux, one is real.

Since no one involved is a medical professional with access, it’s all sort of faux folk diagnosis.

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 9:56:53am

re: #591 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It was a sick photo, not an attack, like what Trump’s supporter in Portland did.

re: #593 Bass Reeves

Nope, here’s where you lose me. Donald Trump wasn’t effing “attacked”. It was a fracking photo shoot.

It was enough of an attack to attract USSS attention. Shall we go to the dictionary?

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 9:57:04am

re: #587 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I don’t know about the rest of the universe, but we’re not a sane country. Half of us were intentionally driven mad by far-right propagandists, and don’t know what’s real anymore.

A sane country doesn’t get distracted by a woman doing bad performance art when two men were killed by a white supremacist right after a future army officer was killed by a white supremacist.

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Interesting Times  May 31, 2017 • 9:57:41am

re: #579 ObserverArt

Side question…do you really think the Democrats pissed away an election, or the voters of this country did?

Yes :/

Srsly tho, you work with the voters you have, not the voters you *wish* you had. Even in the fucked-up Montana special election, the number of registered voters who couldn’t be arsed to show up was nearly double the winning total of Bodyslammer McFascistthug.

Figure out how to get those fuckers* to fucking show up for change.

*Does not apply to victims of voter suppression fuckery. It’s the job of progressive groups and the Democratic party to take care of the legal and financial fights there.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 9:57:45am

re: #562 Belafon

Are they in the same location?

I don’t know, but even if they aren’t Trump can still bully her. And as much of a control freak he is, maybe he has control of her Twitter account too.

I don’t have an account, but I imagine if you have the account user i.d. and passwords you can use the account.

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darthstar  May 31, 2017 • 10:00:28am

I found the bloody Trump head photo to be offensive and stopped looking at it almost immediately. I’m glad KG apologized for it and took responsibility for a stupid and tasteless stunt, but I really don’t know that much about her and could give a crap what happens to her in the coming days/weeks.

As for venting rage about it either here or on Twitter, I’ll leave that to others. There’s nothing I can tweet that will add to the conversation in a constructive manner.

I’m actually more upset with the news that Trump may be pulling out of the Paris Agreement. If he does that, that will be unfortunate. At the same time, it allows the other countries to even further strengthen the accord so that, should the US decide it doesn’t want to be like Syria or Nicaragua under the next administration, we’ll have to step up our game even more to comply.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 10:00:46am

re: #549 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Today is a shit day for a lot of reasons, but especially on a personal level here.

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I’ll probably be lurking for much of the day here.

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 10:01:03am

Lunch is about on the table.

Damn any stunt that puts me in the position of defending anything about that pack of goniffs, but real is real.

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darthstar  May 31, 2017 • 10:01:53am

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Apocalypse  May 31, 2017 • 10:02:18am

re: #595 Decatur Deb

You inadvertently raise an interesting question: Why hasn’t a Psych assessment been done? Surely anyone would have one to dismiss it as an issue.

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darthstar  May 31, 2017 • 10:02:57am

re: #602 Decatur Deb

Lunch is about on the table.

Damn any stunt that puts me in the position of defending anything about that pack of goniffs, but real is real.

Don’t worry about it. Wrong is wrong regardless of the victim.

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Bass Reeves  May 31, 2017 • 10:03:19am

re: #596 Decatur Deb

It was enough of an attack to attract USSS attention. Shall we go to the dictionary?

A tweet responding to a bunch of retweets by hypocritical fuckfaces means not a goddamned thing.

Literally the least offensive thing to happen in the last two weeks. She apologized. Melania has no moral standing, and no “right” to tweet back at anyone. This is absurd.

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 10:03:37am

re: #604 Apocalypse

You inadvertently raise an interesting question: Why hasn’t a Psych assessment been done? Surely anyone would have one to dismiss it as an issue.

Seems to be no medical requirement for candidacy at all. Releasing a Dr statement is like releasing your taxes.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 31, 2017 • 10:04:03am

re: #603 darthstar

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 10:04:48am

re: #581 Decatur Deb

Not about KG—this is a response to criticism of the Melania tweet. Her husband was grossly attacked—she (or her flack) gets to bitch about it.

But Hillary was never allowed to bitch about it.

You okay Deb? This doesn’t quite sound like you.

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Apocalypse  May 31, 2017 • 10:05:45am

re: #607 Decatur Deb

We have communication error. Trump should get one, you said no one with qualifications and access has done one, and I ask why not?

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 10:06:41am

re: #609 ObserverArt

But Hillary was never allowed to bitch about it.

You okay Deb? This doesn’t quite sound like you.

HRC and anyone is allowed to bitch about anything. I’m not wired to say anything they do is wrong and anything we do is OK.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 31, 2017 • 10:06:43am

re: #604 Apocalypse

You inadvertently raise an interesting question: Why hasn’t a Psych assessment been done? Surely anyone would have one to dismiss it as an issue.

While Trump has no idea that he’s an asshole sociopath, he has to know that he’s not the man he once was. The best he could do is get a note from Keith Ablow. A real shrink or neurologist would know something is really wrong with him.

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caseyjr  May 31, 2017 • 10:07:19am

re: #584 Decatur Deb

The freakn’ photo.

Ivan Kupala

One must question the mental health of the artist

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 10:08:41am

re: #610 Apocalypse

We have communication error. Trump should get one, you said no one with qualifications and access has done one, and I ask why not?

Until we get into 25th Amendment territory, there just doesn’t seem to be a mechanism to require a sane president.

I am told I must bring in lunch tomatoes. BBL

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 10:11:59am

re: #583 Decatur Deb

Yes. In no sane universe does a competent party loose an election to Donald Trump.

Well there IS the problem. We are no longer in a sane universe.

Sane people would not have elected Trump no matter the opposing candidate, campaign, etc., etc.

I am at the point in believing NO reasonable Democrat was going to win this past election. Not when Bernie folks were out voting for anyone but Clinton, not when Fox news has done a hell of a job of getting people to not even consider a vote and its ramifications and just pull the Republican lever.

It’s going to take pain and suffering to bring reality back to the universe. Reality no longer does it.

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BeachDem  May 31, 2017 • 10:13:16am

re: #528 Stanley Sea

Bottom line, Melania fucked up her statement by questioning anyone’s mental health.

small.

And not to be pedantic, (but to be pedantic) the syntax of the first sentence is fucked up.
//

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Dr. Matt  May 31, 2017 • 10:13:31am

re: #581 Decatur Deb

Not about KG—this is a response to criticism of the Melania tweet. Her husband was grossly attacked—she (or her flack) gets to bitch about it.

BFD. Her piece of shit, scumbag husband had Ted Nugent at his rally in Michigan,…the same Ted Nugent that wanted Obama to suck on his machine and wanted to rape Hillary with it. Melanoma Trump can fuck off. And if you’re still “raging” about what KG did, you need to wake to reality and get off your high horse. Talk about fake fucking outrage. KG’s little act is fucking peanuts to what that pussy grabbing asshole is doing to this country. But, continue with your fake outrage if you really must.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 10:13:33am

re: #590 Decatur Deb

That’s reassuring.

No, that is real.

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TedStriker  May 31, 2017 • 10:16:59am

Alright folks, let’s stop and breathe for a moment, OK?

We’re (presumably) friends here.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2017 • 10:17:48am

re: #601 ObserverArt

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 31, 2017 • 10:18:41am

Beautiful day here in Wescanson. Be cool folks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 10:19:20am

I actually wanted to highlight something here beyond the revolting fact that in the age of Trump, white supremacists have a seat at the table and are being increasingly given a platform to spread their nonsense.

I wanted to get into the nonsense.

The racism in this racism goes even deeper than is obvious at the surface. Consider that most black people in America have at least some white/European ancestry, because of the nature of slavery in America. But we still consider them black.

Obama’s mother was white, and his Dad black. He’s considered either black, or half-black if you want to say ‘he’s not black enough’, but NOBODY calls him ‘white’. It’s the old ‘one drop of blood’ rule, but it only applies to whiteness. That which isn’t pure white is black, or brown. But that which is not pure black or brown is STILL black or brown.

When the term ‘black genocide’ was prevalent, it referred to young black people dying from the crack epidemic, plus the effects on the community of so many lost to addiction. White genocide just means lack of pure pasty-faced people. Big fucking deal - who cares?

I can’t begin to describe how stupid this is from a biological standpoint. Purebred ANYTHING is generally weaker and less hardy than more genetically diverse stock. I mean what are we preserving in white people? Ability to sunburn in minutes? Ability to drink cows milk without discomfort?

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 10:20:05am

re: #598 Interesting Times

Yes :/

Srsly tho, you work with the voters you have, not the voters you *wish* you had. Even in the fucked-up Montana special election, the number of registered voters who couldn’t be arsed to show up was nearly double the winning total of Bodyslammer McFascistthug.

Figure out how to get those fuckers* to fucking show up for change.

*Does not apply to victims of voter suppression fuckery. It’s the job of progressive groups and the Democratic party to take care of the legal and financial fights there.

I think that is part of the insanity. Not looking out for your own good is pretty fucking insane.

Can all that be blamed on the Democrats? I don’t think so. I blame the voters…which is what I have done since about November 10th when we started to get a feel for what happened.

To me it is a cheap excuse. And no I am not saying the Clinton people did everything right. I am saying there is a good chance that a perfect campaign would still have brought the same result.

I think we toss the DNC under the bus and ignore the reality. Ignorance. Laziness, Craziness.

Nobody can fix all of that but the people with the issues.

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Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2017 • 10:20:55am

re: #621 (Bert the Turtle)

Beautiful day here in Wescanson. Be cool folks.

[Embedded content]

We’re All Gonna Get Laid

Couldn’t resist.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 10:21:22am

re: #589 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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But, you know, let’s spend another day on Kathy Griffin’s idiocy.

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Targetpractice  May 31, 2017 • 10:21:49am

If true, then the GOP is gonna experience yet another meltdown. One of the go-to defenses against the reports about Comey’s memos was “We haven’t seen them, so how do we know they exist?!” But if he’s going to testify under oath that the events took place, then the GOP is back to “Well, there’s nothing illegal about telling the guy investigating your best bud to end the investigation!”

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Interesting Times  May 31, 2017 • 10:22:17am

re: #617 Dr. Matt

For what it’s worth, I interpret DD’s “outrage” as being against her doing something destructive to the cause, as it were. We know the disingenous pustules of the both-siderist media hold Dems/progressives/liberals to ridiculously high standards while letting GOPers get away with (literally) murder. In light of that, we have no room for error :(

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darthstar  May 31, 2017 • 10:22:30am
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KingKenrod  May 31, 2017 • 10:22:55am

I don’t know if Trump will pull out of the Paris climate deal. Unfortunately he needs a hit with his base right now, so he might do it just for that.

But I also think he might be leaking news that he plans to pull out just to get people to beg him not to, and maybe to see if he is offered something to stay in. Because that is his favorite strategy, even as a developer: take away something people already think they have and force them to bargain for it back.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 31, 2017 • 10:23:04am

re: #622 Blind Frog Belly White

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makeitstop  May 31, 2017 • 10:25:17am

re: #546 ObserverArt

Maybe McMaster wants to see another global conflict in Europe again. There are new toys to test. Trump probably thinks he can get Russia to cooperate and be our partner to take over the world and divide it up. /

That’s been my theory since the Russia stuff first surfaced. Putin sold him some world conquest plan and he’s itching to do it.

The only question is - when they conquer the world, who’s gonna get to be Supreme Ruler? You know Putin isn’t gonna take a back seat to his mark.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 31, 2017 • 10:25:33am

re: #628 darthstar

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goddamnedfrank  May 31, 2017 • 10:26:29am
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mmmirele  May 31, 2017 • 10:27:07am

re: #512 Eventual Carrion

Random ponder: Code reviews can be brutal sometimes.

That is all. And no, it wasn’t even my code we were reviewing.

As someone who has to do the final cleanup when a code deploy fails, I want code reviews to be as brutal as needed to avoid errors.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 10:27:58am

re: #632 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Almost as widely celebrated as Ward Churchill!

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 10:28:48am

re: #628 darthstar

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Celebrated? Most peopel don’t know who teh hell she is. I didn’t see Tomi say a damn word when Trump was actually kissing Nugent’s ass AFTER he had told Obama and Clinton to suck his gun. So yeah it was disgusting but let’s stop with this dishonest narrative. And I’ll point out other anything, Griffin actually apologized. When did Nugent apologize, when has Hank Williams II apologized, or when have any of thse right wing assholes apologized?

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darthstar  May 31, 2017 • 10:28:53am
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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 10:29:20am

re: #632 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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LEftist aka anyone left of George W. Bush.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 10:29:58am

re: #633 goddamnedfrank

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BEcause he’s an unpelsaant asshole. Maybe Chris should try finding a colleague that actually ikes Cruz instead of being a whiny troll.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 10:30:27am

re: #627 Interesting Times

For what it’s worth, I interpret DD’s “outrage” as being against her doing something destructive to the cause, as it were. We know the disingenous pustules of the both-siderist media hold Dems/progressives/liberals to ridiculously high standards while letting GOPers get away with (literally) murder. In light of that, we have no room for error :(

But that is unrealistic and fits into the insanity of the times.

Plus, how do you fight something like that anyway?

They can do what they want but we can’t? INSANE!

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Targetpractice  May 31, 2017 • 10:30:54am

re: #633 goddamnedfrank

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Why is Chris Cillizza such a vacuous douchebag?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 31, 2017 • 10:31:14am

What a dumbass.

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Stanley Sea  May 31, 2017 • 10:31:45am
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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 10:32:05am

re: #641 Targetpractice

Why is Chris Cillizza such a vacuous douchebag?

What is The Fix whining about now?

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 10:32:55am

re: #642 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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What a dumbass.

Nugent isn’t finished. The NRA still drags him out. Hank Williams Jr isn’t finished. What a laod of shit. And again, Grfifin actually apologized unlike those two tool bags so fuck you Mr. I use the handle of an actual traitor the US lecturing people.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 10:33:35am

re: #644 Sir John Barron

What is The Fix whining about now?

Al Franken said Ted Cruz was a joke in his new book which is a totaly surprise to anyone who actually has followed the Senate since he got tehre.

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Targetpractice  May 31, 2017 • 10:33:36am

re: #644 Sir John Barron

What is The Fix whining about now?

Al Franken beating up on poor ol’ Ted Cruz.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 10:33:46am

re: #643 Stanley Sea

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FFS.

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Bass Reeves  May 31, 2017 • 10:34:40am

re: #627 Interesting Times

For what it’s worth, I interpret DD’s “outrage” as being against her doing something destructive to the cause, as it were. We know the disingenous pustules of the both-siderist media hold Dems/progressives/liberals to ridiculously high standards while letting GOPers get away with (literally) murder. In light of that, we have no room for error :(

I think we should stop letting the other side set the rules for behavior. We should especially stop letting them set our bar so far higher than their own, nonexistent bar. We sure as hell shouldn’t let birthers clutch pearls.

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Targetpractice  May 31, 2017 • 10:34:51am

Cruz IS a joke, his sole accomplishment (aside from being Tailgunner Joe’s reincarnation), was pushing the country into an unnecessary shutdown and then getting roundly tarred by everybody including his own party for it.

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Sir John Barron  May 31, 2017 • 10:35:56am

re: #647 Targetpractice

Al Franken beating up on poor ol’ Ted Cruz.

That must be why all the fainting couches are sold out.

652
HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 10:38:04am

I mean FFS, one of Cruz’s efllow Republicans said that people would like to shoot Cruz if they could. Franken just said the guy is a jerk in a book. MEanwhile Chris didn’t care at all about the attack on Ben Jacobs and I’m sure he’d haev an excuse ready for Preston Brooks too.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 10:39:49am

re: #642 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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What a dumbass.

I’m sure a better Democratic campaign would have changed this person’s mind.

/// yeah…satirical as h*ck. This is what politicians are up against. Even Republicans are scared of these types. All that Tea the GOP drank is killing them and this country.

Our politics have become paralyzed.

I swear, the day is coming when politicians from all sides and ideologies have to come together and figure out how to fix this. It’s everyone’s problem…and I have a suspicion it is starting to dawn on some.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 10:41:00am

re: #643 Stanley Sea

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WTF???

Akron…WTF????

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Stanley Sea  May 31, 2017 • 10:41:40am

re: #654 ObserverArt

WTF???

Akron…WTF????

LA

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darthstar  May 31, 2017 • 10:42:05am
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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 10:42:43am

re: #656 darthstar

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Thsi needs to end him.

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darthstar  May 31, 2017 • 10:43:19am
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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 10:43:54am

re: #655 Stanley Sea

LA

Ahhh. I need to check ESPN. I thought maybe he was still in Ohio since the game is Thursday. Thanks!

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 10:45:57am

re: #656 darthstar

Ryan will schedule a concurrent inquiry into the inappropriateness if using the likeness of a Republican president.

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lawhawk  May 31, 2017 • 10:47:22am

re: #656 darthstar

This is how that hearing is going to go.

The GOP will spend half the time pontificating that Comey screwed up on not pursuing the Clinton emails enough. Then, with a few minutes left, the Democrats will refocus attention on fact that Trump obstructed justice and sought to interfere in federal criminal investigations so as to avoid further personal scrutiny.

Those are impeachable charges, but the GOP will continue deflecting and enabling Trump because the GOP simply is incapable of doing anything patriotic for the Union.

To them, patriotism has been rewritten so as to honor/respect/glorify/extol the Confederacy (spit be upon the insurrectionists) and to cheer on the Russians who benefit from every single Trump action on international affairs (and many domestic shenanigans).

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Amory Blaine  May 31, 2017 • 10:48:21am

re: #640 ObserverArt

They’re still bitching about Bill Ayers for crying out loud. KG knows how these fucks are and she went for it anyways. And yeah its not fair. The conservatives have all the power and the money. They write the rules.

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Targetpractice  May 31, 2017 • 10:49:38am

So Trump has stamina to tweet, needs golf cart to travel 700 yards up a shallow incline.

You can just tell the guys up at the top are pining for the days when they could get “outraged” over arugula and a tan suit.

664
Interesting Times  May 31, 2017 • 10:51:36am

re: #640 ObserverArt

But that is unrealistic and fits into the insanity of the times.

Plus, how do you fight something like that anyway?

They can do what they want but we can’t? INSANE!

First, you acknowledge the dynamic exists, and then, you strategize accordingly. If Kathy Griffin had done this, she would’ve realized there was nothing whatsoever to gain from the stunt and come up with something better (“better” being a routine/photoshoot/whatever that ridicules trump SNL-style as opposed to making him sympathetic and putting yourself in Secret Service crosshairs to boot)

The other thing we can do is aggressively and forcefully push back against the willfully stupid both-sider idiots - “Forget Kathy Griffin, who already apologized. Why didn’t you ever call out Republicans for currying favor with Ted Fucking Nugent to the point of inviting him to the White House? Why do you equate swearing (no matter the context) with physical assault? Are you genuinely this stupid, or just putting on an act for your corporate masters?”

Your goal isn’t to change the behavior of the both-siderists but to go over their heads and directly to the reality-TV-driven US culture (“See? I’m not a pushover. I know how to fight for my cause and for you.”)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 31, 2017 • 10:51:55am

re: #663 Targetpractice

[Embedded content]

So Trump has stamina to tweet, needs golf cart to travel 700 yards up a shallow incline.

You can just tell the guys up at the top are pining for the days when they could get “outraged” over arugula and a tan suit.

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 10:51:58am

re: #613 caseyjr

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One must question the mental health of the artist

Lend me an ear. As group, artists have a colorful history.

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BeachDem  May 31, 2017 • 10:53:42am

re: #645 HappyWarrior

Nugent isn’t finished. The NRA still drags him out. Hank Williams Jr isn’t finished. What a laod of shit. And again, Grfifin actually apologized unlike those two tool bags so fuck you Mr. I use the handle of an actual traitor the US lecturing people.

Not only does the NRA drag him out, he was a dinner guest at the fucking White House.

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Timothy Watson  May 31, 2017 • 10:54:28am

re: #663 Targetpractice

[Embedded content]

So Trump has stamina to tweet, needs golf cart to travel 700 yards up a shallow incline.

You can just tell the guys up at the top are pining for the days when they could get “outraged” over arugula and a tan suit.

I remember the MSM mocking Clinton’s campaign for requiring any social media posts to go through a couple people to ensure message coordination.

Meanwhile, Trump needs a company of lawyers to review his tweets.

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darthstar  May 31, 2017 • 10:54:53am

re: #661 lawhawk

This is how that hearing is going to go.

We can’t move on this until we’ve settled the issue of unmasking.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 31, 2017 • 10:56:38am

I’ve never noticed this on Twitter before:

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BeachDem  May 31, 2017 • 10:57:02am

re: #652 HappyWarrior

I mean FFS, one of Cruz’s efllow Republicans said that people would like to shoot Cruz if they could. Franken just said the guy is a jerk in a book. MEanwhile Chris didn’t care at all about the attack on Ben Jacobs and I’m sure he’d haev an excuse ready for Preston Brooks too.

That fellow Republican was dear, sweet Lindsey Graham—you know, that
“reasonable” guy.

“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you.”

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blueraven  May 31, 2017 • 10:57:44am

re: #640 ObserverArt

But that is unrealistic and fits into the insanity of the times.

Plus, how do you fight something like that anyway?

They can do what they want but we can’t? INSANE!

But what KG did is NOT what we want. It just allows the opposition to tag us that way.

No it is not fair, but the people who find what she did disgusting and unacceptable on any level far outweighs the people who will look for “balance”.

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makeitstop  May 31, 2017 • 10:59:49am

re: #636 HappyWarrior

Celebrated? Most peopel don’t know who teh hell she is.

There’s a reason she called her TV show ‘My Life on the D List.’

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 11:01:38am

re: #672 blueraven

But what KG did is NOT what we want. It just allows the opposition to tag us that way.

No it is not fair, but the people who find what she did disgusting and unacceptable on any level far outweighs the people who will look for “balance”.

And those are the trove of mushy-middle voters we must have in 2018 and 2020. We can stand a couple stupid stunts like this, and then, at some point, FL PA WI MI are suddenly “too hard”.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 11:02:47am

re: #666 Decatur Deb

Lend me an ear. As group, artists have a colorful history.

Usually brought on by the stiffs they have to deal with to try to get by. But when they are dead (and ever ear-less) those stiffs will buy them and sell their works so they can gloat on how much they paid.

I’ve always said, no one would put out 82.5 million to have spent a day with Vincent Van Gogh when he was alive. They wouldn’t have spent 8 dollars.

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Decatur Deb  May 31, 2017 • 11:04:46am

re: #675 ObserverArt

Usually brought on by the stiffs they have to deal with to try to get by. But when they are dead (and ever ear-less) those stiffs will buy them and sell their works so they can gloat on how much they paid.

I’ve always said, no one would put out 82.5 million to have spent a day with Vincent Van Gogh when he was alive. They wouldn’t have spent 8 dollars.

Would loved to have stayed at Gauguin’s vacation place.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 11:04:59am

re: #672 blueraven

But what KG did is NOT what we want. It just allows the opposition to tag us that way.

No it is not fair, but the people who find what she did disgusting and unacceptable on any level far outweighs the people who will look for “balance”.

Never said she did what I or anyone wanted. Look at the comment from the other side.

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HappyWarrior  May 31, 2017 • 11:05:46am

re: #663 Targetpractice

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So Trump has stamina to tweet, needs golf cart to travel 700 yards up a shallow incline.

You can just tell the guys up at the top are pining for the days when they could get “outraged” over arugula and a tan suit.

OFFS get off his nuts. You’re talking about a woman who was grilled all day at a committee and a man who complained about debate times. You support a delicate flower of a man.

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Eventual Carrion  May 31, 2017 • 11:11:39am

re: #642 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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What a dumbass.

Handle of 1776 Stonewall Jackson kinda says it all. Birth of our nation matched with someone who fought to destroy our nation.

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 12:23:16pm

re: #665 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Some of that good Bolivian “stamina” maybe.


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The Seshen - Distant Heart (Live on KEXP) kexp.org presents The Seshen performing "Distant Heart" live at The Little London Plane during Upstream Music Fest. Recorded June 1, 2018. Host: Kevin ColeAudio Engineer: Kevin SuggsCameras: Jim Beckmann, Alaia D'Alessandro & Justin WilmoreDirector: Scott HolpainenEditor: Alaia D'Alessandro kexp.orgtheseshen.comupstreammusicfest.com ...
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Retrograde PresidentProfit at any cost. American dream. President Trump. Blind destruction. BBC News: The Trump administration has overturned bans on the use of pesticides linked to declining bee populations and the cultivation of genetically modified crops in US national wildlife refuges. ...
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David Crosby and Jason Isbell ‘Ohio’----Newport
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Activist Publishes 11,000 Private DMs Between Wikileaks and Its Supporters The DMs concern a particular group chat between the official Wikileaks account and several supporters. In the chat—dubbed “Wikileaks +10” due to number of participants—Wikileaks would coordinate smear campaigns against the group’s rivals, including journalists, according to the DMs. ...
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Capital Cities - Levitate (Visualizer)Music video by Capital Cities performing Levitate. © 2018 Lazy Hooks, LLC, under exclusive license to UMG Recordings, Inc. vevo.ly
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