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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 5:16:30pm
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covfefe  May 31, 2017 • 5:16:49pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 5:19:46pm

Nephew posted this on FB. Almost as good as the ‘How to Make Ice’ one!

Iframe

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The Major  May 31, 2017 • 5:20:32pm
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TedStriker  May 31, 2017 • 5:22:38pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

The better to pass messages back to his buddy Vlad…

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 5:23:58pm

So I guess Trump doesn’t intend to get tough with the Russians over their continual harassment of our diplomatic staff there…..

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 5:25:13pm

re: #6 Barefoot Grin

So I guess Trump doesn’t intend to get tough with the Russians over their continual harassment of our diplomatic staff there…..

Yuh. Right.

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EPR-radar  May 31, 2017 • 5:26:12pm

re: #6 Barefoot Grin

So I guess Trump doesn’t intend to get tough with the Russians over their continual harassment of our diplomatic staff there…..

Of course not. As long as Russia’s checks continue to clear, Trump has no problems with them at all.

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Skip Intro  May 31, 2017 • 5:28:36pm

Just one question. Who, exactly, is going to prosecute Trump/Kushner?

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 5:29:51pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 5:31:39pm

re: #9 Skip Intro

Just one question. Who, exactly, is going to prosecute Trump/Kushner?

Kushner could be prosecuted by any US Attorney, I’d think.

Trump would have to be impeached, convicted, and removed from office, THEN prosecuted.

Much harder row to hoe with Trump, because the GOP have shown no hint of caring about criminal activity by Trump, as long as he promises to give all the money from Medicaid to the wealthy.

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Stanley Sea  May 31, 2017 • 5:32:04pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 5:32:25pm

re: #11 Blind Frog Belly White

Kushner could be prosecuted by any US Attorney, I’d think.

Trump would have to be impeached, convicted, and removed from office, THEN prosecuted.

Much harder row to hoe with Trump, because the GOP have shown no hint of caring about criminal activity by Trump, as long as he promises to give all the money from Medicaid to the wealthy.

Do we have any US Attorneys?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 5:33:15pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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Either he’s lying and should be impeached and removed from office for lying to Congress, or he’s WAY too senile to have such responsibilities. But really, nothing says it has to be only one.

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b.d.  May 31, 2017 • 5:34:01pm

re: #9 Skip Intro

Just one question. Who, exactly, is going to prosecute Trump/Kushner?

We could form a Citizen’s Grand Jury like the wingnutiest of the wingnuts did against Obama.

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caseyjr  May 31, 2017 • 5:34:33pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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Is it safe to say that Jeff Sessions is head of the Obstruction of Justice Department?

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The Major  May 31, 2017 • 5:34:40pm
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Skip Intro  May 31, 2017 • 5:35:13pm

re: #16 caseyjr

Is it safe to say that Jeff Sessions is head of the Obstruction of Justice Department?

That is his primary job.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 5:35:18pm

re: #13 Barefoot Grin

Do we have any US Attorneys?

I’d think career prosecutors might do it. Not sure why it would require a Presidential appointee.

But, Dammit, Jim Barefoot Grin, I’m a Doctor Scientist, not a Bricklayer Lawyer!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 5:36:19pm

re: #16 caseyjr

Is it safe to say that Jeff Sessions is head of the Obstruction of Justice Department?

That, and the Denial of Civil Rights Division.

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2017 • 5:36:51pm

Shot.

Chaser.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 5:37:06pm

re: #17 The Major

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First I’d have to find them. THEN I could boycott them.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 5:38:13pm

Continuing the conversation from the last thread about the problems with pharma in Appalachia.

A few years back Portsmouth Ohio, (Scioto County) on the Ohio river had one of the largest problems in the nation with pill mills pumping powerful pain killers to down on their luck people. It became a huge problem to where the state of Ohio had to do some major busting.

Here is a link to a long detailed 2011 article and a bit of the beginning if anyone is interested.

Cleveland.com - Prescription drug epidemic brings Southern Ohio county to its knees

…But the new king is OxyContin.

The fifth-most-prescribed pain medication in the world, “oxy,” or “OC,” is a favorite of addicts, who crush and snort it or dilute it with water and inject it for a heroin-like rush.

The drug and its cousin oxycodone are the linchpin of a prescription-drug-fueled epidemic that has brought Scioto County to its knees. It’s an epidemic caused by a flood of pain pills into the area — plenty from legal local pain clinics and others imported from Florida and the Detroit area by dealers looking for an easy buck.

At the half-dozen or so pain clinics in this Appalachian county along the banks of the Ohio River, a handful of licensed doctors pump out prescriptions for an estimated 35 million pain pills a year to an ever-mushrooming population of pill-crazed patients who come from near and far just to cop.

Do the math, and it comes to roughly 460 pills for every man, woman and child in this county of 76,000 residents, according to 2008 state pharmacy board statistics.

It’s gotten so bad that last year the local health commissioner declared a public health emergency, a rare step usually reserved for disease outbreaks.

Lisa Roberts, a city of Portsmouth public-health nurse on the front lines of the epidemic, says locals call it the “attack of the pill heads.” She says a “pharmaceutical atom bomb” has brought the county to the verge of complete social collapse.

Statistics as bleak as tombstones back up Roberts’ apocalyptic talk: The county has seen a 360 percent increase in accidental drug-overdose deaths and has the highest hepatitis C rate in Ohio, a rate that has nearly quadrupled in the past five years, thanks to junkies who are shooting up.

Sixty-four Scioto County babies born in 2009 came into the world with drugs in their system — that’s nearly one in 10 births. And swamped drug treatment centers say they are turning away thousands of locals who need help for prescription-drug addiction.

Stories of crimes committed by addicts in this community awash in pain pills float like ghosts through the air: Thieves dug the wires from the pitching machines for the Little League out of the ground twice recently to sell for scrap. The gumball machine was broken into at the Portsmouth health department for $20 in change. The manhole covers have disappeared off city streets…

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 5:40:25pm
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Skip Intro  May 31, 2017 • 5:40:57pm

re: #23 ObserverArt

How many OxyContin pills was Limbaugh caught with? Thousands, wasn’t it? Curious he wasn’t prosecuted as a dealer.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 5:41:27pm

More worldwide humiliation for our country (over the “covfefe” tweet):

bbc.com

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 5:43:04pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 5:44:34pm

re: #25 Skip Intro

How many OxyContin pills was Limbaugh caught with? Thousands, wasn’t it? Curious he wasn’t prosecuted as a dealer.

Good old America justice there I’d guess.

Rush is a good man. /

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2017 • 5:45:12pm

SNEK

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2017 • 5:45:51pm

Whoops, forgot to add the tweet. Please reload my #30.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 5:47:14pm
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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 5:47:48pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

SNEK

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Nice metallic green paint job. Beautiful.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 5:48:32pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

SNEK

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Danger Noodle!!!

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ipsos  May 31, 2017 • 5:49:09pm

re: #11 Blind Frog Belly White

Trump would have to be impeached, convicted, and removed from office, THEN prosecuted.

Why wouldn’t he get an immediate pardon from President Pence?

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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 5:49:22pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Spicer is constantly being a snarky jerk when he doesn’t know the answer to a given question.
I guess as an understudy narcissist, he can’t just say “I don’t know,” he has to tell them they’ll find out the answer when the president “makes it clear.”

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2017 • 5:50:20pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

What the fuck does he mean by ‘hits Facebook’?

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EPR-radar  May 31, 2017 • 5:50:33pm

re: #36 jaunte

Spicer is constantly being a snarky jerk when he doesn’t know the answer to a given question.
I guess as an understudy narcississt, he can’t just say “I don’t know,” he has to tell them they’ll find out the answer when the president “makes it clear.”

The answer Spicer/Trump really wants to give to any question they don’t want to deal with is: ‘Fuck off and die.’

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 5:50:57pm

I can see why Trump would want to return the compounds to the Russians. The logistics of having regular visits by Russian spy ships off our coast was probably a real headache.

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Skip Intro  May 31, 2017 • 5:51:10pm

re: #35 ipsos

He would, just like Kushner will get one from trump. The game is fixed, but good.

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EPR-radar  May 31, 2017 • 5:51:19pm

re: #37 teleskiguy

What the fuck does he mean by ‘hits Facebook’?

‘attacks’, presumably. It’s just more Trumpshit, so not really worth thinking about.

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 5:51:47pm

re: #39 Barefoot Grin

I can see why Trump would want to return the compounds to the Russians. The logistics of having regular visits by Russian spy ships off our coast was probably a real headache.

Especially since the golf cart has trouble on water.

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 5:51:55pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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Textbook.

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 5:52:11pm

re: #42 Belafon

Especially since the golf cart has trouble on water.

LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 5:52:53pm

one more Fiona for the night:

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b.d.  May 31, 2017 • 5:53:22pm

re: #39 Barefoot Grin

I can see why Trump would want to return the compounds to the Russians. The logistics of having regular visits by Russian spy ships off our coast was probably a real headache.

Go ahead and give it back to them, I’m sure that our agents have gone over every inch of that place…..talk freely Ruskies!!

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 5:54:10pm
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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 5:54:46pm

Charles Pierce:

It’s Still All About the Money, and Robert Mueller Knows It
The Justice Department’s special prosecutor is zeroing in.

“…It’s going to be about the money. It always was going to be about the money. There is something distinctly rotten at the heart of the president*’s family business, about which the president* and the rest of the Borgias don’t want the world to know. The money is all that matters to these people. The money always has been all that matters to these people. The money is central to whatever arrangements the extended clan made with the Russian banks, which is to say with the Russian governments.
esquire.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 5:54:56pm

re: #35 ipsos

Why wouldn’t he get an immediate pardon from President Pence?

He might, but the question was ‘who’s going to prosecute Kushner/Trump’. There are different answers for each, as I described.

But remember, Ford pardoned Nixon after Nixon RESIGNED, sparing America the disgrace of having to impeach him. If Trump is impeached, convicted, and removed from office, it would require 2/3 of the Senate to vote to convict. To get THAT, the case can’t be anything as silly as shading the truth about blowjobs in a deposition in a frivolous lawsuit. It would have to be BIG, and incontrovertible criminal activity. The nation might not be in a forgiving mood after that.

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darthstar  May 31, 2017 • 5:56:33pm

re: #37 teleskiguy

What the fuck does he mean by ‘hits Facebook’?

blames

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 5:56:58pm

Break for birthday cake. My wife asked me to cut it, so I cut it into sevenths, because why not.

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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 5:57:29pm
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Jebediah, RBG  May 31, 2017 • 5:58:13pm
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caseyjr  May 31, 2017 • 6:00:17pm

re: #37 teleskiguy

What the fuck does he mean by ‘hits Facebook’?

something about Cambridge Analytica, a shady RW data mining group, co-opting FB advertising algorithm (via Russian hack?) to microtarget D voters to discourage or get them to vote 3rd party. I am probably wrong.

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Kragar  May 31, 2017 • 6:02:53pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 6:03:49pm

re: #54 caseyjr

something about Cambridge Analytica, a shady RW data mining group, co-opting FB advertising algorithm (via Russian hack?) to microtarget D voters to discourage or get them to vote 3rd party. I am probably wrong.

Or, as Hillary said in that recent forum, ‘the Russians couldn’t have weaponized the hacked information without [American] help.’

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Stanley Sea  May 31, 2017 • 6:04:04pm

Sorry if already posted

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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 6:06:07pm
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darthstar  May 31, 2017 • 6:06:50pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

one more Fiona for the night:

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Fiona will bite someone in half when she’s older.

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 6:08:13pm

re: #59 darthstar

Fiona will bite someone in half when she’s older.

Someone’s head will be just another watermelon.

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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 6:08:56pm

re: #59 darthstar

Just like my daughters!

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 6:09:26pm
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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 6:09:35pm

My wife wants me to go outside and get the clothes off the line. Back in a minute. Sky is overcast, massive thunderstorms to our south near Sterling, Colo. including a radar-indicated tornado.

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FormerDirtDart  May 31, 2017 • 6:09:55pm

As someone who has blown big ass holes in the ground, that is a seriously big ass hole in the ground for a surface detonation

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 6:10:51pm
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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 6:11:02pm

re: #64 FormerDirtDart

Reportedly a ‘sewage tanker’ truck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 6:11:11pm
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Ace Rothstein  May 31, 2017 • 6:11:20pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

He’s gonna make a huge spectacle out of his big “FUCK YOU!” to the world, isn’t he?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 31, 2017 • 6:12:02pm

re: #59 darthstar

Fiona will bite someone in half when she’s older.

Nah.

Every watcher of Disney movies knows that Fiona will save her human friends from the other hippos, and then work to bring peace between human and hippokind, before being shot by Gaston-equivalent, only to be revived in the last reel for the big finale.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 6:12:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 6:14:34pm
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Ace Rothstein  May 31, 2017 • 6:14:44pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

The reason he added the MAGA at the end is because Limbaugh said on his show today that if Trump didn’t pull out of the accord, he would have no way to make America great again. Yes, he said that.

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FormerDirtDart  May 31, 2017 • 6:16:33pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

Created in his likeness…

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 6:16:54pm
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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 6:17:01pm

re: #68 Ace Rothstein

He’s gonna make a huge spectacle out of his big “FUCK YOU!” to the world, isn’t he?

Most likely. But with Trump you never know.

He could keep involved in it, use it to bash some countries not putting enough money and effort in it and then walk around like he saved the world…and no one that saves the world is a bad guy needing impeached.

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FormerDirtDart  May 31, 2017 • 6:17:08pm
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Ace Rothstein  May 31, 2017 • 6:17:50pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2017 • 6:18:19pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart

I am hungry and that looks so good.

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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 6:18:27pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Michelangelo would be proud of the puppers.

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freetoken  May 31, 2017 • 6:19:21pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

Getting ready for one of those Trump handshakes:

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 6:20:02pm

I’ve blocked so many people today on Twitter I think their database servers are about to explode.

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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 6:22:19pm

Thread:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 6:24:18pm
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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 6:24:28pm

Olivia Newton-John announced yesterday her breast cancer has returned. She has postponed her concerts and meet-and-greet appearances for June.

abcnews.go.com (report)

Facebook Post
(Olivia Newton-John’s Facebook release)

She will undergo photon (?) radiation therapy (hence needing to postponing the concerts).

She originally had pain in her lower back. When she had it checked out, it turned out her cancer moved to her sacrum.

After her first bout with cancer, she founded a cancer research and wellness centre in Australia.

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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 6:26:30pm

You want warning signs of fascism? Here you go.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 6:26:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 31, 2017 • 6:29:10pm
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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 6:30:06pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

Slogan? “Let’s All Get This Behind Us”

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Kragar  May 31, 2017 • 6:30:16pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2017 • 6:30:58pm

Cue up the thinkpieces about how she needs to go away some more, I’m sure.

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The Major  May 31, 2017 • 6:33:30pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 6:33:59pm

The good news is that any “pull out” from Paris won’t take effect until 2019.

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The Major  May 31, 2017 • 6:37:06pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

I just blocked one myself…

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meteor  May 31, 2017 • 6:40:08pm

re: #91 The Major

Kittens make America great now.

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 6:40:21pm

re: #82 jaunte

Thread:

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I agree with the sentiment in 32, even with her apology. It’s a good response and a good question: “How offended were you at the things done to Obama? As offended as you are now?”

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covfefe  May 31, 2017 • 6:43:23pm

re: #77 Ace Rothstein

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 6:44:57pm
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ObserverArt  May 31, 2017 • 6:45:00pm

Regarding the actual topic of this thread…after having watched Olbermann. If what he says is true, a lot of people already know it.

So, is Flynn under any kind of FBI/Justice Department protection/surveillance? This is all about some dicey people, so, I wouldn’t be very trusting of Flynn either way or those that might try to harm or move him.

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EPR-radar  May 31, 2017 • 6:45:30pm

re: #68 Ace Rothstein

He’s gonna make a huge spectacle out of his big “FUCK YOU!” to the world, isn’t he?

Of course. If Trump were to literally say “Here’s my message to everyone who opposes my decision to remove the US from the Paris deal: Fuck you and your little dog Toto too.” he really would become wingnut God-Emperor.

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covfefe  May 31, 2017 • 6:47:00pm

So we are going to join Syria and Nicaragua… Boy, what company that is.

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lawhawk  May 31, 2017 • 6:53:40pm

re: #100 covfefe

Trump pulls out, he confirms what we all knew - that he’s a craven know nothing who’s pushing the extreme right wing junk science peddlers their due.

Trump stays in, it shows he’s a liar whose positions can’t be trusted even by his allies.
All Trump positions have an expiration date.

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lawhawk  May 31, 2017 • 6:56:58pm
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TedStriker  May 31, 2017 • 7:03:40pm

re: #102 lawhawk

It probably smells like White Diamonds and chicken shit.

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Kragar  May 31, 2017 • 7:04:00pm
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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 7:06:28pm

re: #101 lawhawk

He’s going to throw out the Paris Accords. This is what the right wing and the GOP wants from him, and he knows it, and he’s not going to risk pissing them off at this point with the Russia investigation continuing to incriminate him.

He’s a deeply stupid, narcissistic man, but he has a well-developed sense of self-preservation, and he knows he has to bail on the accords to keep his people happy. If he doesn’t, we’ll know he’s even further into dementia than we thought.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  May 31, 2017 • 7:08:04pm

re: #48 jaunte

Charles Pierce:

It’s Still All About the Money, and Robert Mueller Knows It
The Justice Department’s special prosecutor is zeroing in.

M-O-N, N-E-Y, LAUNDER, I-N-G!

Trump’s business structure is a money launderer’s dream. Scattered high-value infrastructure projects farmed out to local construction contractors under sketchy, seldom-honored contracts, hundreds and hundreds of paper shell LLCs assigned to projects, all “run” by a half-literate madman full of bluster and bullshit who creates nothing, hides his records, bullies and blusters his way through everything, and doesn’t read or document a damned thing, but keeps the dollars flowing by sticking his name on things? You couldn’t design a better way to float shady cash around the world.

If anybody ever gets under the hood of the “Trump Organization” (the mother of all oxymorons), they’re going to find enough $50,000 fence posts, million-dollar rent checks for thousand-dollar apartments, “golf club memberships” for non-existent people, shady Russian-owned BMW dealership financing, and scuzzy-looking money transfers, to fill an entire textbook for AML courses.

His entire organization is likely in its second decade as a Hawala system for filthy Eurasian cash, and he either doesn’t know or doesn’t care.

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TedStriker  May 31, 2017 • 7:11:36pm

re: #106 Pawn of the Oppressor

M-O-N, N-E-Y, LAUNDER, I-N-G!

Trump’s business structure is a money launderer’s dream. Scattered high-value infrastructure projects farmed out to local construction contractors under sketchy, seldom-honored contracts, hundreds and hundreds of paper shell LLCs assigned to projects, all “run” by a half-literate madman full of bluster and bullshit who creates nothing, hides his records, bullies and blusters his way through everything, and doesn’t read or document a damned thing, but keeps the dollars flowing by sticking his name on things? You couldn’t design a better way to float shady cash around the world.

If anybody ever gets under the hood of the “Trump Organization” (the mother of all oxymorons), they’re going to find enough $50,000 fence posts, million-dollar rent checks for thousand-dollar apartments, “golf club memberships” for non-existent people, shady Russian-owned BMW dealership financing, and scuzzy-looking money transfers, to fill an entire textbook for AML courses.

His entire organization is likely in its second decade as a Hawala system for filthy Eurasian cash, and he either doesn’t know or doesn’t care.

Oh, I think Trump cares bigly, because I’m sure he still gets the vig.

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lawhawk  May 31, 2017 • 7:11:46pm

re: #106 Pawn of the Oppressor

Of course, if all of this is true, and prosecutors go after his family and org, his supporters will claim that it’s a witch hunt that defies reality (an alt-reality of Trump’s own creation).

The GOP has enabled all this, and they’re continuing to enable despite the pile of evidence that Trump and his cronies were up to no good all along.

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 7:13:25pm

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Stanley Sea  May 31, 2017 • 7:14:53pm

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2017 • 7:15:54pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2017 • 7:16:20pm

re: #111 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Skip Intro  May 31, 2017 • 7:16:27pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

hammacher.com

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calochortus  May 31, 2017 • 7:16:54pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

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Stanley Sea  May 31, 2017 • 7:17:23pm

re: #111 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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prairiefire  May 31, 2017 • 7:17:31pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

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calochortus  May 31, 2017 • 7:17:54pm

re: #114 calochortus

It’s good to be third…

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Barefoot Grin  May 31, 2017 • 7:18:46pm

Sorry if my private comment sounded pathetic. It was. Anyway, going to bed so I’ll leave you with:

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Belafon  May 31, 2017 • 7:19:39pm

re: #118 Barefoot Grin

Sorry if my private comment sounded pathetic. I was. Anyway, going to bed so I’ll leave you with:

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I like the fact that she’s got 3 times the likes and 5 times the retweets.

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Stanley Sea  May 31, 2017 • 7:20:31pm

Thanks everyone!!!!

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Stanley Sea  May 31, 2017 • 7:24:12pm
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Amory Blaine  May 31, 2017 • 7:26:37pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

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“Tune in, after Judge Judy!”

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Skip Intro  May 31, 2017 • 7:27:56pm

re: #121 Stanley Sea

Are you thinking of buying the selfie drone for only $299?

I’d forgotten what a crazy place HS is

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bratwurst  May 31, 2017 • 7:27:59pm

This isn’t unhinged at all!

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BeachDem  May 31, 2017 • 7:30:14pm

re: #121 Stanley Sea

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He. Is. Pathetic.

And the ongoing attempts to normalize him and his idiocy really hurts my head.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 7:30:26pm

These fucking people.

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Skip Intro  May 31, 2017 • 7:31:46pm

re: #124 bratwurst

This isn’t unhinged at all!

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Because advertisors just love it when you attack other advertisors. Go pedal to the metal with this one Lumpy.

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Skip Intro  May 31, 2017 • 7:33:06pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

He may be referring to the bombs trump supporters would be using because they lost.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 7:35:52pm
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teleskiguy  May 31, 2017 • 7:38:38pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 31, 2017 • 7:39:34pm

Good, a politician showing actual courage and integrity.

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Stanley Sea  May 31, 2017 • 7:41:00pm

re: #123 Skip Intro

Are you thinking of buying the selfie drone for only $299?

I’d forgotten what a crazy place HS is

No, someone told me there’s a cool picnic basket there. There isn’t.

I haven’t delved any deeper.

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Charles Johnson  May 31, 2017 • 7:41:22pm

I know some LGF members don’t like it when I say this, but we are in serious trouble with Trump in the White House and every day it’s getting worse. He’s destroying the foundations of American democracy, and deliberately laying waste to our alliances and international reputation on a scale I’ve never seen before.

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goddamnedfrank  May 31, 2017 • 7:42:46pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 31, 2017 • 7:43:40pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

I know some LGF members don’t like it when I say this, but we are in serious trouble with Trump in the White House and every day it’s getting worse. He’s destroying the foundations of American democracy, and deliberately laying waste to our alliances and international reputation on a scale I’ve never seen before.

It’s pretty fucking bad. I’ve never been so glad not to have kids.

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Skip Intro  May 31, 2017 • 7:43:47pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2017 • 7:45:32pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 31, 2017 • 7:52:16pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 31, 2017 • 7:52:34pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

I know some LGF members don’t like it when I say this, but we are in serious trouble with Trump in the White House and every day it’s getting worse. He’s destroying the foundations of American democracy, and deliberately laying waste to our alliances and international reputation on a scale I’ve never seen before.

It’s a very painful truth.

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Citizen K  May 31, 2017 • 7:54:00pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

I know some LGF members don’t like it when I say this, but we are in serious trouble with Trump in the White House and every day it’s getting worse. He’s destroying the foundations of American democracy, and deliberately laying waste to our alliances and international reputation on a scale I’ve never seen before.

And we’re only 4 fucking months in. 4 months, and he’s already made us a pariah state to our (former) allies, and a hostage state to Russia. It’s….ugh….

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FormerDirtDart  May 31, 2017 • 7:55:54pm
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Stanley Sea  May 31, 2017 • 7:57:30pm

Everyone should find their local #MarchForTruth this weekend.

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Joe Bacon  May 31, 2017 • 7:58:36pm

re: #3 Blind Frog Belly White

Nephew posted this on FB. Almost as good as the ‘How to Make Ice’ one!

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I can’t stop chuckling. Appreciate that clip because I sure needed a good belly laugh today!

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:00:40pm

Small-town government life …

I was out because I got a call from the chairwoman of the village board.

She said “Oh crap” (more colourfully), “I just found paperwork from three weeks ago that says we have to test our water system by the end of May for coliform.”

(Eight PM, great, at least I have four hours notice.)

I’m the only person in town with a water operator license, so it’s me or the state hammers us for non-compliance.

Rush out to do this urgent test. Fortunately the thunderstorms collapsed before they got here. (High winds can cause false positives in samples due to contamination by dust or other particles.)

Have to go out Sunday afternoon to people’s homes to take arsenic samples. (I’m guessing a lot of folk will be unhappy with me showing up do do that on Sunday, so the chairwoman says she’ll call them to smooth it over.)

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Unshaken Defiance  May 31, 2017 • 8:05:48pm

re: #144 Anymouse

I think I would like your small town

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:07:19pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

I know some LGF members don’t like it when I say this, but we are in serious trouble with Trump in the White House and every day it’s getting worse. He’s destroying the foundations of American democracy, and deliberately laying waste to our alliances and international reputation on a scale I’ve never seen before.

We don’t like it because it’s a very uncomfortable truth. Votes (or lack thereof) have consequences.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:08:47pm

re: #145 Unshaken Defiance

I think I would like your small town

We’re small so we try harder, or something.

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2017 • 8:10:58pm
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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:11:47pm

On that Olivia Newton-John Facebook post above, could she have typoed the name of the therapy? I can’t find diddly about “photon therapy” but I can find “proton therapy.” That uses a particle beam to accelerate protons to kill cancer. (Science rox.)

en.wikipedia.org

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:12:10pm

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:13:07pm

re: #150 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Upvote for your name, not the comment (since I can’t read that).

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:13:57pm

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:14:22pm

re: #151 Anymouse

Upvote for your name, not the comment (since I can’t read that).

Thanks — the comment didn’t work, so I had to axe it.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:17:38pm

Rebecca Shoenkopf not happy about the faux outrage over Kathy Griffin.

OK Everyone, You Punished Kathy Griffin Real Good, Now STFU (goes to Wonkette, more at the link):

Thus beginnedeth the OUTRAGE and POUTRAGE! There was so much of it, from all corners, that CNN has fired Griffin from its New Year’s Eve broadcast and Griffin has lost an ad campaign as a result. Why is Kathy Griffin encouraging little children to murder the president and walk around with his head while Tyler Shields takes pictures of it?! You’ve crossed a line, madam!

There was OUTRAGE! from one million Trump-loving wingnuts (no, we are not linking to them), the same people who thought it was LOL funny to email their fellow Teabaggers pictures of Barack Obama being lynched. They are also the same people who tacitly or explicitly condoned the violence Trump helped incite at his rallies, and who will find EVERY REASON to believe that if a black person is shot and killed by the police, then by god they was probably up to NO GOOD!

They fail to cry when transgender folk are murdered simply for who they are. They don’t seem all that broken up about the two American heroes who were stabbed to death in Portland while trying to protect a Muslim girl and her African American friend from vicious white supremacist hatred.

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plansbandc  May 31, 2017 • 8:18:49pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

I know some LGF members don’t like it when I say this, but we are in serious trouble with Trump in the White House and every day it’s getting worse. He’s destroying the foundations of American democracy, and deliberately laying waste to our alliances and international reputation on a scale I’ve never seen before.

I rant about this several times a week on twitter. He’s destroying so many things so quickly, I don’t think the country will ever recover. And not nearly enough people care. It’s devastating.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 31, 2017 • 8:18:58pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

It keeps getting worse…I think a lot of “real Americans” don’t realize or don’t care, for example, what a staggering big thing it is for Merkel to say we can’t be depended on.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:19:06pm

So I just got off a 1.5 hour phone call with Amazon tech support (you know it’s serious when the person you’re talking to doesn’t have a South Asian accent). It appears that the principal issues are:

1) Even tech support can’t find or figure out the Washington Post free/discounted subscription, so updating a payment method is hard.

2) Firefox for Windows. At least, once I went to Chrome for Android, the problem (appears to have) resolved itself.

I know about trying a different browser if something doesn’t work on the first one, but this is the first time I had to get a different DEVICE.

My neck is killing me from so much time holding the phone to my ear. If I’d thought it would last that long, I would have grabbed the earphones.

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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 8:20:20pm

Thread:

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2017 • 8:21:12pm
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Shiplord Kirel  May 31, 2017 • 8:22:42pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

I know some LGF members don’t like it when I say this, but we are in serious trouble with Trump in the White House and every day it’s getting worse. He’s destroying the foundations of American democracy, and deliberately laying waste to our alliances and international reputation on a scale I’ve never seen before.

I agree. It really is that bad and the fascists are attacking on multiple fronts, allying with the Russians, attacking the free press, dismantling the social safety net. I know a fair amount about US history and this is easily the worst internal threat to the nation since the Civil War, perhaps the worst ever.
The suggestion that it might be worse than the Civil War no doubt seems extreme, but consider this: Though much diminished, the federal union would have survived, with its constitution and values intact, even if the rebels had won and separated themselves into a hellish slave kingdom. In fact, with no need for compromise with slavers and racists, progressive values might have taken hold much sooner and more completely in the north and west.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:23:13pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

I know some LGF members don’t like it when I say this, but we are in serious trouble with Trump in the White House and every day it’s getting worse. He’s destroying the foundations of American democracy, and deliberately laying waste to our alliances and international reputation on a scale I’ve never seen before.

Oh, I expect we’re mostly aware of it. I go to marches, donate money and do phone banking (at the moment), and try not to think about it most of the time — since there’s not a lot more I can do.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2017 • 8:24:15pm

re: #161 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Oh, I expect we’re mostly aware of it. I go to marches, donate money and do phone banking (at the moment), and try not to think about it most of the time — since there’s not a lot much more I can do.

This.

I’d rather put my effort into action rather than simply talking about it online.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:24:47pm

re: #155 plansbandc

I rant about this several times a week on twitter. He’s destroying so many things so quickly, I don’t think the country will ever recover. And not nearly enough people care. It’s devastating.

re: #156 Jebediah, RBG

It keeps getting worse…I think a lot of “real Americans” don’t realize or don’t care, for example, what a staggering big thing it is for Merkel to say we can’t be depended on.

The USA has run through these paroxysmal spasms of conservative outrage throughout the nation’s history. Three steps forward for progress followed by two steps back.

If for no other reason than “I have a son,” I have to continue to make good arguments why this is bad but can be overcome.

The fact that a few Republican politicians are taking notice is hopeful. More indicative is Republican politicians jumping ship and becoming Libertarians (Bill Weld, Gary Johnson, elected state senators in Nebraska and Iowa). To be clear, I am not a fan of the Libertarian Party either, but the LP gets at least a nod from me for not engaging in alleged espionage.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:26:29pm

re: #163 Anymouse

To be clear, I am not a fan of the Libertarian Party either, but the LP gets at least a nod from me for not engaging in alleged espionage.

They’d not be much better than the Trumpistas on our international position and policies, though.

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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 8:26:31pm
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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:27:34pm

re: #164 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

They’d not be much better than the Trumpistas on our international position and policies, though.

True; the LP supports isolationism (except regarding free trade).

That said, they aren’t in bed with the nation’s rivals, like Russia and China.

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scottslemmons  May 31, 2017 • 8:29:40pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

I know some LGF members don’t like it when I say this, but we are in serious trouble with Trump in the White House and every day it’s getting worse. He’s destroying the foundations of American democracy, and deliberately laying waste to our alliances and international reputation on a scale I’ve never seen before.

It’s probably already much, much too late to salvage the country. It was probably too late back during Obama’s or even Clinton’s presidency — it was all a matter of waiting for the Republicans to finally convert their party over to full-time fascism. And now that they’ve hit that point, they’ll never back out of it, and their voters will insist on ever-greater heights of lunacy.

If the Democrats manage to make it back into the White House (I think Trump will stay in office for at least eight years, and almost certainly longer), the Republicans and the press will go back to Obama mode — full obstruction, holding the Democrats to ludicrous standards, hyping every food choice, sneeze, and crooked tie as an impeachment-level scandal. And the next Republican who gets into the White House will make Trump look like an angel.

The only way to fix the problem and save the country would be to excise the crazy percentage of the population. And we know that won’t happen, because sane people don’t have any interest in excising that many people. (And I don’t even own a gun, so leave me out of it.) (I have a very nice crowbar, and I could probably get more, but they’re slow, and I hate to mess up the finish.)

So honestly, yes, get used to saying, oh well, nothing we can do about no health care for anyone who isn’t a billionaire, nothing we can do about no jobs and shit wages, nothing we can do about starving grandmothers, shuttered schools, empty libraries, razed forests, nothing we can do about neo-Nazi militias running wild, nothing we can do about the Ramirez family down the street getting burned alive in their house.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  May 31, 2017 • 8:30:15pm

re: #154 Anymouse

Rebecca Shoenkopf not happy about the faux outrage over Kathy Griffin.

OK Everyone, You Punished Kathy Griffin Real Good, Now STFU (goes to Wonkette, more at the link):

Kathy Griffin gets fired over a single instance of a joke that even by her admission went over the line, and publicly apologized for, while CNN still chooses to employ Jeffrey Lord, an individual who on a daily basis engages in completely unhinged conspiracy theories, not to mention is regularly an apologist for rightwing violence (including doubling down on blaming the victims for white nationalists committing criminal acts). The double standard that exists for these people leaves me dumbfounded.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:30:23pm

re: #162 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This.

I’d rather put my effort into action rather than simply talking about it online.

We pretty much have to. There will be much for us to try to undo once we’ve gotten rid of the Republican menace, whenever that occurs.

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2017 • 8:31:48pm

re: #167 scottslemmons

The only way to fix the problem and save the country would be to excise the crazy percentage of the population. And we know that won’t happen, because sane people don’t have any interest in excising that many people.

Excuse me?!? What the fuck do you mean by this?

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Citizen K  May 31, 2017 • 8:32:48pm

re: #156 Jebediah, RBG

It keeps getting worse…I think a lot of “real Americans” don’t realize or don’t care, for example, what a staggering big thing it is for Merkel to say we can’t be depended on.

Hell, a lot of “real Americans” are gung-ho about sticking it to Merkel because they’ve bought in on the white nationalist bullshit line that Merkel turned Europe into a immigrant-overrun, crime-infested crater. The same Fox-peddled bullshit about no-go zones and rampant refugee violence and Merkel personally destroying European society to ‘coddle Muslims’ and all that bullshit. There’s good reason Trump seems to have genuine animosity for Merkel: he’s bought in on that bullshit too.

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Joe Bacon  May 31, 2017 • 8:32:53pm

re: #167 scottslemmons

I got a bad feeling that the Radical Republicans are going to default on the debt and that will trigger a financial meltdown. The world will junk the dollar as a reserve currency and dump Trasury securities. I truly fear that we’re going to break into pieces the same way the USSR did.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2017 • 8:34:24pm

re: #169 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

We pretty much have to. There will be much for us to try to undo once we’ve gotten rid of the Republican menace, whenever that occurs.

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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 8:34:34pm

re: #167 scottslemmons

It’s ridiculous and damaging to pretend the choice is between sitting on your hands and mass murder.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:35:29pm

re: #173 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:35:39pm

re: #172 Joe Bacon

I got a bad feeling that the Radical Republicans are going to default on the debt and that will trigger a financial meltdown. The world will junk the dollar as a reserve currency and dump Trasury securities. I truly fear that we’re going to break into pieces the same way the USSR did.

Will liberals states mount a refugee mission for liberals living in conservative states? Asking for a friend. Or will there be “extreme vetting” for refugees to enter California or Massachusetts?

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Joe Bacon  May 31, 2017 • 8:36:18pm

re: #167 scottslemmons

I cannot accept that choice. Genocide is NOT the answer!

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freetoken  May 31, 2017 • 8:36:38pm

1st revised law of thermodynamics: Everything works, until it breaks.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:36:41pm

re: #167 scottslemmons

A few random thoughts:

This is a lot to hang on a razor-thin margin in three states.

(I don’t think Donnie two-scoops is going to LIVE eight more years, much less be president.)

It’s only been four months — you just can’t build up an opposition or a criminal case in that time.

The last two special elections have been won (by Rs) by single digit margins, 10 points or more less than the margins they had before DT. This doesn’t help for those elections, but in many, many House seats, the Republican margin was 3% or less. Keep that phone banking, canvassing and contributing going.

The blue states are now fighting and will continue to do so. (They can’t do much about foreign policy — but the travel ban is STILL not in effect.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2017 • 8:36:46pm

re: #175 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:37:47pm

re: #180 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Joe Bacon  May 31, 2017 • 8:37:51pm

re: #176 Anymouse

Will liberals states mount a refugee mission for liberals living in conservative states? Asking for a friend. Or will there be “extreme vetting” for refugees to enter California or Massachusetts?

Great Great Grandpa Bacon was the lead conductor for the Underground Railroad in DC. I worry that I may have to pick up where he left off…

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:38:16pm

re: #172 Joe Bacon

I got a bad feeling that the Radical Republicans are going to default on the debt and that will trigger a financial meltdown. The world will junk the dollar as a reserve currency and dump Trasury securities. I truly fear that we’re going to break into pieces the same way the USSR did.

That would hurt their own big donors as much as anyone, so I would tend to doubt it (they didn’t shut down the government, after all).

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De Kolta Chair  May 31, 2017 • 8:38:54pm

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:39:50pm

re: #176 Anymouse

Will liberals states mount a refugee mission for liberals living in conservative states? Asking for a friend. Or will there be “extreme vetting” for refugees to enter California or Massachusetts?

We have open borders at the moment. And we pick up the tab for a good many red states now.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 31, 2017 • 8:40:05pm

re: #181 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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Citizen K  May 31, 2017 • 8:40:31pm

re: #179 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

A few random thoughts:

This is a lot to hang on a razor-thin margin in three states.

(I don’t think Donnie two-scoops is going to LIVE eight more years, much less be president.)

It’s only been four months — you just can’t build up an opposition or a criminal case in that time.

The last two special elections have been won (by Rs) by single digit margins, 10 points or more less than the margins they had before DT. This doesn’t help for those elections, but in many, many House seats, the Republican margin was 3% or less. Keep that phone banking, canvassing and contributing going.

The blue states are now fighting and will continue to do so. (They can’t do much about foreign policy — but the travel ban is STILL not in effect.)

The problem is that Trump’s already done so much damage in those 4 months, that even if, god willing, investigations and criminal cases do progress far enough that the big “I” word gets invoked, we may already end up past the point of no return. Damage that will take generations to undo, if ever, and you know American voters won’t suffer Dems in charge for even a fraction of that long, no matter how much the GOP fucks everything up.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:40:39pm

re: #179 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

A few random thoughts:

This is a lot to hang on a razor-thin margin in three states.

(I don’t think Donnie two-scoops is going to LIVE eight more years, much less be president.)

It’s only been four months — you just can’t build up an opposition or a criminal case in that time.

The last two special elections have been won (by Rs) by single digit margins, 10 points or more less than the margins they had before DT. This doesn’t help for those elections, but in many, many House seats, the Republican margin was 3% or less. Keep that phone banking, canvassing and contributing going.

The blue states are now fighting and will continue to do so. (They can’t do much about foreign policy — but the travel ban is STILL not in effect.)

On those narrow margins the GOP won in the last two special elections:

Those were also deeply GOP districts. The fact that the Democrats even put up a credible challenge is indicative of the sea-change in the mood.

Moreover, in state elections at the same time deeply-red districts in NH and NY flipped from the GOP to the Dems.

This is not a lost cause. There are statisticians and poll-watchers in the GOP as well. If Mr. Ossoff pulls an upset in GA-6 and the race in SC is even close, watch for more Republicans to head for the exits on Donald Trump.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 31, 2017 • 8:41:01pm

re: #167 scottslemmons

No sir our options are not reduced to give up or to schedule a purge of lives.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:41:13pm

Charles, I just tried to send you a private message (#152) and it posted as for me only. Help?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:41:21pm

re: #186 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:41:40pm

re: #190 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Charles, I just tried to send you a private message (#152) and it posted as for me only. Help?

Pretty sure that’s how private messages work when you send them to the Boss. He’s special.

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2017 • 8:42:18pm

re: #190 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Charles, I just tried to send you a private message (#152) and it posted as for me only. Help?

He got it. It’s kind of designed that way. Charles can see all the comments. We can’t just post private comments willy nilly and Charles not able to read them. :)

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:43:04pm

re: #185 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

We have open borders at the moment. And we pick up the tab for a good many red states now.

Nebraska is one of the few red states that pays more in taxes than it gets back. (Not nearly the percentage that California or New York has).

In any alleged breakup of the USA between red states and blue states, it’s somewhat frightening to think my little state of five million people would be one of the wealthiest in the “Red States of America.” (There ain’t no freakin’ way Nebraska could support the rest of the slackers.)

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:46:13pm

re: #187 Citizen K

The problem is that Trump’s already done so much damage in those 4 months, that even if, god willing, investigations and criminal cases do progress far enough that the big “I” word gets invoked, we may already end up past the point of no return. Damage that will take generations to undo, if ever, and you know American voters won’t suffer Dems in charge for even a fraction of that long, no matter how much the GOP fucks everything up.

Domestically, what has he achieved? (Yes, the deplorables are making themselves very visible, but they’ll disappear into the woodwork again once their leaders are out. The white house press corps has a lot of unqualified propagandists with press credentials, but credentials can be revoked.)

Internationally, yes, this will hurt, and won’t be easily undone — if it can be completely undone. But the less time these people are allowed at the helm, the less time it will take to repair.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 31, 2017 • 8:46:36pm

re: #194 Anymouse

Nebraska is one of the few red states that pays more in taxes than it gets back. (Not nearly the percentage that California or New York has).

In any alleged breakup of the USA between red states and blue states, it’s somewhat frightening to think my little state of five million people would be one of the wealthiest in the “Red States of America.” (There ain’t no freakin’ way Nebraska could support the rest of the slackers.)

Trade you access to the Port Of Los Angeles for a deterrent / nuclear umbrella. You guys got the ICBMs, we got Vandenberg. Pick your zip code for your embassy.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:48:21pm

re: #193 teleskiguy

He got it. It’s kind of designed that way. Charles can see all the comments. We can’t just post private comments willy nilly and Charles not able to read them. :)

Thanks — just wanted to be sure he would know there’s a message for him.

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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 8:48:36pm
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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:50:49pm

Well, it’s nearly 10PM in Mythical Mountain Time Zone.

No calls, E-mails, or cards from anyone who knows today is my birthday. Not even my mother or sister.

Yeah, it’s petty, but still.

At least the village chairwoman and another trustee wished me a happy birthday in person.

Several people at Little Green Footballs also have.

I am going to make LGF my new family. I’ll force my way in like your crazy uncle at a funeral.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  May 31, 2017 • 8:51:21pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Happy birfday!

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:51:21pm

re: #198 jaunte

I count 24 in that list. We need a few more to flip the house (but people are definitely working on it. Started the day after the 11/8 election.)

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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 8:51:39pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Hey, happy birthday!

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:51:50pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Happy happy!

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freetoken  May 31, 2017 • 8:51:53pm

I find it hard to tell what is really going on among the populace. I do not know if my Facebook stream is any indication that is reliable. I know that what I see on Twitter is not a indicator of much other than a lot of stupid people like to say stupid things while hiding behind mysterious handles.

Mostly, I find my fellow Americans to not be as bright as they need to be, to work through the BS that is thrown out by the professional propagandists. The not-completely-mythical Madison Ave. has done quite a job on our society.

How anyone can lie to themselves about Trump being a “Christian” and chosen by God (according to the scammers like Graham Jr.) is beyond me. Oh, I realize that we humans have an innate ability to lie, and we use that on ourselves. Yet some lies just seem too big to believe.

One reason I follow the creationism arc in our society is that it is the best diagnostic I’ve yet found, to tell me how a person in my society will approach an issue.

That modernity/rationalism appears to have stalled in the US is not good, though I can’t yet sell that as “the end” of society. Human societies are far too complex to be bottled up by any single quality.

So I go forward into by “golden” years, wondering about whether my retirement will continue, or whether I’ll end up on the street as an old man in a Mad Max scenario.

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2017 • 8:52:28pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Happy Birthday!

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:53:00pm

re: #196 Unshaken Defiance

Trade you access to the Port Of Los Angeles for a deterrent / nuclear umbrella. You guys got the ICBMs, we got Vandenberg. Pick your zip code for your embassy.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 31, 2017 • 8:53:01pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Well, it’s nearly 10PM in Mythical Mountain Time Zone.

No calls, E-mails, or cards from anyone who knows today is my birthday. Not even my mother or sister.

Yeah, it’s petty, but still.

At least the village chairwoman and another trustee wished me a happy birthday in person.

Several people at Little Green Footballs also have.

I am going to make LGF my new family. I’ll force my way in like your crazy uncle at a funeral.

Well happy birthday and enjoy it. We only get so many.

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Joe Bacon  May 31, 2017 • 8:54:35pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Fella, I didn’t know it was your Birthday. Sending Happy Birthday wishes from Los Angeles!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:56:01pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Well, it’s nearly 10PM in Mythical Mountain Time Zone.

No calls, E-mails, or cards from anyone who knows today is my birthday. Not even my mother or sister.

Yeah, it’s petty, but still.

At least the village chairwoman and another trustee wished me a happy birthday in person.

Several people at Little Green Footballs also have.

I am going to make LGF my new family. I’ll force my way in like your crazy uncle at a funeral.

Many happy returns. And with that, I bid the Lizardim good night.

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plansbandc  May 31, 2017 • 8:56:10pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Happy Birthday! Glad you are a part of the lizard brigade. :D

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 8:56:14pm

re: #206 Anymouse

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:56:15pm

re: #200 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Happy birfday!

Thanks!

re: #202 jaunte

Hey, happy birthday!

Thanks!

re: #203 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Happy happy!

Thanks!

re: #207 Unshaken Defiance

Well happy birthday and enjoy it. We only get so many.

Thanks! (Not so much for the reminder that I am mortal /s)

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:58:12pm

re: #210 plansbandc

Happy Birthday! Glad you are a part of the lizard brigade. :D

Thanks! I am glad Mr. Johnson and the rest of the commentariat will have me here.

(Wow, how easy it was to troll for birthday wishes. /s Where the heck was my family today?)

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Jebediah, RBG  May 31, 2017 • 8:59:06pm

re: #182 Joe Bacon

Great Great Grandpa Bacon was the lead conductor for the Underground Railroad in DC. I worry that I may have to pick up where he left off…

That’s a goddamn cool bit of family history!

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 8:59:32pm

re: #208 Joe Bacon

Fella, I didn’t know it was your Birthday. Sending Happy Birthday wishes from Los Angeles!

Send a refugee visa. Thanks. /s

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freetoken  May 31, 2017 • 8:59:39pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Image: MY8o7.gif

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Shiplord Kirel  May 31, 2017 • 8:59:46pm

re: #176 Anymouse

Will liberals states mount a refugee mission for liberals living in conservative states? Asking for a friend. Or will there be “extreme vetting” for refugees to enter California or Massachusetts?

I think I have a variation of birthright eligibility in California. I wasn’t born there, but I did graduate from high school there, which is the next closest thing to being a native. My daughter is a legal resident in Massachusetts, so that may give me a foot in the door there.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 31, 2017 • 9:01:20pm

re: #215 Anymouse

Send a refugee visa. Thanks. /s

Around here passports get Visa Valley-dated. San Fernando Valley.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:02:13pm

re: #201 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I count 24 in that list. We need a few more to flip the house (but people are definitely working on it. Started the day after the 11/8 election.)

If a Democrat running for NE-3 doesn’t use Adrian Smith’s statements that he doesn’t think Americans deserve to eat against him, I will be mightily disappointed.

I’m pretty sure (at the moment) that it would be tough to flip this district. But like the lotto, you can’t win if you don’t enter.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:02:52pm

re: #217 Shiplord Kirel

I think I have a variation of birthright eligibility in California. I wasn’t born there, but I did graduate from high school there, which is the next closest thing to being a native. My daughter is a legal resident in Massachusetts, so that may give me a foot in the door there.

My sister and her wife live in Berkeley. Perhaps I can get a family sponsorship.

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jaunte  May 31, 2017 • 9:03:31pm

re: #201 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I count 24 in that list. We need a few more to flip the house (but people are definitely working on it. Started the day after the 11/8 election.)

Here’s a good factoid to work with.

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William Lewis  May 31, 2017 • 9:04:20pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Well, it’s nearly 10PM in Mythical Mountain Time Zone.

No calls, E-mails, or cards from anyone who knows today is my birthday. Not even my mother or sister.

Yeah, it’s petty, but still.

At least the village chairwoman and another trustee wished me a happy birthday in person.

Several people at Little Green Footballs also have.

I am going to make LGF my new family. I’ll force my way in like your crazy uncle at a funeral.

I hope you had a very pleasant birthday and that you have many more even better ones.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 31, 2017 • 9:05:27pm

re: #217 Shiplord Kirel

If there’s an issue, I’ll sponsor you.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 31, 2017 • 9:06:00pm

So my Manx cat Cinnamon got hold of a dryer sheet of all things to rub her face on and play with. It’s the new catnip. Seconds ago…

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Interesting Times  May 31, 2017 • 9:06:15pm

re: #219 Anymouse

If a Democrat running for NE-3 doesn’t use Adrian Smith’s statements that he doesn’t think Americans deserve to eat against him, I will be mightily disappointed.

I’m pretty sure (at the moment) that it would be tough to flip this district. But like the lotto, you can’t win if you don’t enter.

What kills me (and yes, I know I’m repeating myself) is how many people just don’t bother to freaking vote (also, assume whenever I say this that I mean those who AREN’T the targets of voter suppression schemes).

Only around ~180k Montanans voted for Fuckface von Minifascist. Meanwhile, around ~320k registered voters didn’t even bother to show up. Any ideas on what to do about that?

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Jebediah, RBG  May 31, 2017 • 9:06:46pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Is it still your birthday in that weird time zone? If so, happy birthday; if not, sorry I missed it.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 9:06:53pm

Oh, by the way — in case anyone needs the reminder.

It’s been said that the future of health care legislation depends on what legislators see in their trips home about now (remember Issa on his roof?). So red state people, if there’s a town meeting scheduled and you can possibly get there, it would be a good idea to go.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:06:59pm

re: #222 William Lewis

I hope you had a very pleasant birthday and that you have many more even better ones.

Thanks. Other than the upcoming scheduled orthopaedic surgery (my fifth) on my hands and being called out in the evening on the last day of the month to do water samples, not too bad.

My wife made a wonderful cake, though with a bizarre flavour (white chocolate with curry).

She wanted to try the curry leaves she got in the mail from Sri Lanka today.

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BeachDem  May 31, 2017 • 9:07:42pm

re: #179 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

A few random thoughts:

This is a lot to hang on a razor-thin margin in three states.

(I don’t think Donnie two-scoops is going to LIVE eight more years, much less be president.)

It’s only been four months — you just can’t build up an opposition or a criminal case in that time.

The last two special elections have been won (by Rs) by single digit margins, 10 points or more less than the margins they had before DT. This doesn’t help for those elections, but in many, many House seats, the Republican margin was 3% or less. Keep that phone banking, canvassing and contributing going.

The blue states are now fighting and will continue to do so. (They can’t do much about foreign policy — but the travel ban is STILL not in effect.)

Well, if anyone’s looking for a Dem to help in a special election, Archie Parnell (running for Mick Mulvaney’s seat—which was always a Dem seat before AND is the seat Frank Underwood held—heh)

His “House of Cards” commercial is a hoot—watch it, you’ll love it:

Archie Parnell: A Matador For You (HOC)

archieparnell.com

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:08:04pm

re: #226 Jebediah, RBG

Is it still your birthday in that weird time zone? If so, happy birthday; if not, sorry I missed it.

Yes, it’s still my birthday. Thanks, you didn’t miss it.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 9:09:10pm

re: #225 Interesting Times

What kills me (and yes, I know I’m repeating myself) is how many people just don’t bother to freaking vote (also, assume whenever I say this that I mean those who AREN’T the targets of voter suppression schemes).

Only around ~180k Montanans voted for Fuckface von Minifascist. Meanwhile, around ~320k registered voters didn’t even bother to show up. Any ideas on what to do about that?

The only thing I can think of is phone banking and canvassing. Working on it…

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makeitstop  May 31, 2017 • 9:10:35pm

HBD, Anymouse, ya whippersnapper.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:11:09pm

There is a Trump tweet for everything, even the Kathy Griffin dustup.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:12:41pm

re: #232 makeitstop

HBD, Anymouse, ya whippersnapper.

Thanks. One noteworthy item of being over a half-century in age is I’m always going to be younger than those who are older than me. /s

I can see it now if I live to eighty, someone telling me to “get off their lawn.”

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William Lewis  May 31, 2017 • 9:16:02pm

re: #225 Interesting Times

What kills me (and yes, I know I’m repeating myself) is how many people just don’t bother to freaking vote (also, assume whenever I say this that I mean those who AREN’T the targets of voter suppression schemes).

Only around ~180k Montanans voted for Fuckface von Minifascist. Meanwhile, around ~320k registered voters didn’t even bother to show up. Any ideas on what to do about that?

1) voting by mail
2) motor voter automatic registration with election reminder notices mailed one month and one week prior to election day.
3) move election day to either Friday or Monday, make it a federal holiday for a 3 day weekend.
4) $250 tax credit per election a person voted in
5) shorten the period of allowed campaigning to lessen voter fatigue with the idiotic campaigning of modern politics.

Just off the top of my head, but I think these would all help increase voter turnout.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 31, 2017 • 9:17:17pm

re: #234 Anymouse

Thanks. One noteworthy item of being over a half-century in age is I’m always going to be younger than those who are older than me. /s

I can see it now if I live to eighty, someone telling me to “get off their lawn.”

57 In June for me. Feeling my own mortality these days for a variety of reasons. Like our recent loss here. I like to think I still have a youthful outlook. Like asking bearded youth if beards are in or chins are out. :-)

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  May 31, 2017 • 9:17:28pm

re: #235 William Lewis

I like all of these, but I think your average uninvolved non-voter would be most motivated by #4…

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De Kolta Chair  May 31, 2017 • 9:19:20pm

Good one, Wil

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:19:22pm
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Mattand  May 31, 2017 • 9:20:18pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

I know some LGF members don’t like it when I say this, but we are in serious trouble with Trump in the White House and every day it’s getting worse. He’s destroying the foundations of American democracy, and deliberately laying waste to our alliances and international reputation on a scale I’ve never seen before.

No argument here. I’m surrounded by far too many “Meh, things will work themselves out” or “Hillary would have been just as evil” types, and this is in “liberal” NJ outside of “liberal” Philadelphia. That’s on top of the MAGA fanatics or the the Magic Balance Fairy freaks who complain about Trump but refused to vote Clinton.

I follow this stuff closer than a lot of people I know (often to my own detriment). I would hardly describe myself as a political expert, but I just feel like far too many people aren’t grasping the enormity of the bullshit going on in the White House.

And again: take any Trump-themed scandal and find/replace his name with “Obama”. DC would have been razed to the ground five times over already. These guys are literally doing the stuff they accused Obama of doing, yet no one seems to care.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:20:37pm

re: #235 William Lewis

1) voting by mail
2) motor voter automatic registration with election reminder notices mailed one month and one week prior to election day.
3) move election day to either Friday or Monday, make it a federal holiday for a 3 day weekend.
4) $250 tax credit per election a person voted in
5) shorten the period of allowed campaigning to lessen voter fatigue with the idiotic campaigning of modern politics.

Just off the top of my head, but I think these would all help increase voter turnout.

The sad part about this is Number Four on your list. That we would even have to think about paying people in a democratic republic to do their civic duty is awful.

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Mattand  May 31, 2017 • 9:21:54pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Well, it’s nearly 10PM in Mythical Mountain Time Zone.

No calls, E-mails, or cards from anyone who knows today is my birthday. Not even my mother or sister.

Yeah, it’s petty, but still.

At least the village chairwoman and another trustee wished me a happy birthday in person.

Several people at Little Green Footballs also have.

I am going to make LGF my new family. I’ll force my way in like your crazy uncle at a funeral.

Shit, had no idea. Sorry for the belated, but Happy Birthday!

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Bass Reeves  May 31, 2017 • 9:24:20pm

Hadn’t scrolled all the way through yet, but did we get to the nooses found in museums in DC this week? One today in the NMAAHC, other one a couple days ago?

smithsonianmag.com

This is why I have little to no patience with allowing the Right to even begin to claim victimhood.

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freetoken  May 31, 2017 • 9:24:40pm

re: #225 Interesting Times

Only around ~180k Montanans voted for Fuckface von Minifascist. Meanwhile, around ~320k registered voters didn’t even bother to show up. Any ideas on what to do about that?

Democracy on a large scale is a very recent experiment in human society. I have never seen a well argued position that it has to be a lasting situation.

There is nothing to stop us from turning into the techno-kleptocracies of so many Sci-Fi stories.

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plansbandc  May 31, 2017 • 9:26:36pm

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:27:09pm

re: #242 Mattand

Shit, had no idea. Sorry for the belated, but Happy Birthday!

Thanks! To be fair, no one really had an idea until I said so.

For all you know, my birthday is October 11. /s

Today’s guinea pig for Curious Lurker (a kindred guinea pig spirit to mine CL was):

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:27:35pm

re: #245 plansbandc

“If I were bigger this would be lunch.”

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Interesting Times  May 31, 2017 • 9:28:40pm

re: #244 freetoken

Democracy on a large scale is a very recent experiment in human society. I have never seen a well argued position that it has to be a lasting situation.

There is nothing to stop us from turning into the techno-kleptocracies of so many Sci-Fi stories.

This is why, after watching an episode of The Handmaid’s Tale, I get that sensation you have immediately upon waking from a nightmare…where you have to pause, take a few moments to mentally decompress, and realize it’s not real (yet).

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Mattand  May 31, 2017 • 9:28:50pm

re: #140 Citizen K

And we’re only 4 fucking months in. 4 months, and he’s already made us a pariah state to our (former) allies, and a hostage state to Russia. It’s….ugh….

That’s one of the things that kills me. These fucking shitheels literally hit the ground running by flouting every civilized convention of government, in addition to wracking up more scandals in 16 weeks than Obama ever did (which I believe is zero).

And what’s really scary is that as far as the GOP is concerned, this has been the warmup act. They haven’t even truly begun to start wrecking shit. It’s exhausting. It really feels like its been a year.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 31, 2017 • 9:29:55pm

re: #245 plansbandc

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With that image in my head, I’m out. See you all on the ‘morrow.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 9:30:05pm

re: #245 plansbandc

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“Keep me warm for now. One day, you will be dinner.”

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Mattand  May 31, 2017 • 9:30:09pm

re: #246 Anymouse

Thanks! To be fair, no one really had an idea until I said so.

For all you know, my birthday is October 11. /s

Today’s guinea pig for Curious Lurker (a kindred guinea pig spirit to mine CL was):

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LOL, mine is the 8th.

Coincidence?

Yes.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 9:31:21pm

re: #235 William Lewis

1) voting by mail
2) motor voter automatic registration with election reminder notices mailed one month and one week prior to election day.
3) move election day to either Friday or Monday, make it a federal holiday for a 3 day weekend.
4) $250 tax credit per election a person voted in
5) shorten the period of allowed campaigning to lessen voter fatigue with the idiotic campaigning of modern politics.

Just off the top of my head, but I think these would all help increase voter turnout.

I’d rather penalize NOT voting, but that’s just me.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:35:07pm

re: #249 Mattand

Ever since the Gilded Age (maybe the revolution) conservatives have wanted to oppose progress or society supporting those amongst us who cannot support themselves.

The GOP is nothing more today than Calvinism with a political party (come to think of it, the Puritans ran Massachusetts that way as well). When you can have a politician say “I don’t think all Americans deserve to eat” and be taken seriously by an outlet like NPR, I really don’t see a whole lot of difference between “serious conservative thought” and Hitler’s “useless eaters.” (In fact all my life I have seen more in common between the two.)

If the GOP had their way, they’d take my VA benefits (and privatise them), block me from private insurance (because epilepsy is a preëxisting condition I can’t even get life insurance with), and wring their hands and pray over me (or condemn me because atheist) if I died from the untreated condition.

Conservatism is now and always has been anti-life and anti-democracy. I have never, not once, seen a conservative position that would indicate otherwise.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:35:56pm

re: #252 Mattand

LOL, mine is the 8th.

Coincidence?

Yes.

Happy future birthday. Many past returns.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:40:32pm
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teleskiguy  May 31, 2017 • 9:42:07pm

re: #170 teleskiguy

Excuse me?!? What the fuck do you mean by this?

I see scottslemmons is too chickenshit to stick around and defend his ludicrous call for mass murder. Fuck you very much, asshole.

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ibob  May 31, 2017 • 9:44:05pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Well, it’s nearly 10PM in Mythical Mountain Time Zone.

No calls, E-mails, or cards from anyone who knows today is my birthday. Not even my mother or sister.

Yeah, it’s petty, but still.

At least the village chairwoman and another trustee wished me a happy birthday in person.

Several people at Little Green Footballs also have.

I am going to make LGF my new family. I’ll force my way in like your crazy uncle at a funeral.

Happy Birthday, Anymouse.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 31, 2017 • 9:45:02pm

re: #257 teleskiguy

I see scottslemmons is too chickenshit to stick around and defend his ludicrous call for mass murder. Fuck you very much, asshole.

He said no sane person would care to “excise” people like that. I assume he’s counting himself among the sane.

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2017 • 9:45:49pm

re: #259 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

He said no sane person would care to “excise” people like that. I assume he’s counting himself among the sane.

The fact that he brought it up at all, for the time being, makes him a bell end.

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covfefe  May 31, 2017 • 9:46:26pm

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:47:06pm

re: #258 ibob

Happy Birthday, Anymouse.

Thanks!

I feel the warm consideration broadcast from those here and feel accepted by the community. (Not in the way King Salman and Donald Trump absorbed weird broadcasts from a glowing orb.)

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teleskiguy  May 31, 2017 • 9:47:48pm

I’m sorry, but I get a little pissed when people bring up mass murder as a solution to political crises. Fucking nazi filth does shit like that.

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:48:36pm

re: #257 teleskiguy

I see scottslemmons is too chickenshit to stick around and defend his ludicrous call for mass murder. Fuck you very much, asshole.

re: #259 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

He said no sane person would care to “excise” people like that. I assume he’s counting himself among the sane.

Maybe he was using “excise” as a verb to refer to a tax. /s

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Anymouse  May 31, 2017 • 9:57:22pm

If anyone’s going to do exicising around here, it’s me: I’m the guy at LGF who owns a scythe anyway. I’m the Grim Reaper around here and I will not stand for upstarts! /s

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JordanRules  May 31, 2017 • 10:03:22pm
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meteor  May 31, 2017 • 10:07:20pm

re: #224 Unshaken Defiance

Yipee!!

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Wile E. Coyote's mom  May 31, 2017 • 10:59:27pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Happy birthday🎂🍾💐🎁🍧🎉

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2017 • 10:51:12am

re: #152 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

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