Video: Samantha Bee Has a Fever, and Its Name Is Covfefe
Whether at home or abroad, we must remember, nobody in the White House knows what the fck they’re doing
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Israel, Iran and Iraq are all signatories. Safe to say, if these 3 agree, the subject is not really controversial. #ParisAgreement
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) June 1, 2017
The US helped write the damn thing in the first place. Trump just went against OUR OWN WORD as a nation. Stupid fucker.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 1, 2017
re: #1 Ace-o-aces
US conservatives are good at making non-controversies into ‘controversies’. E.g., creationism.
If/when the GOP decides that promulgating 2 + 2 = 5 is politically useful, that will poll at 30% in the US after the talking points have been aired by Fox News and Limbaugh for a few weeks.
I wonder how the Busters, Stein Voters and other assorted far leftist idiots who thought Trump and Clinton were the same are feeling today?
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) June 1, 2017
More reason to lawyer up for #1 son-in-law… https://t.co/Ca3EjP2fz6
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 1, 2017
re: #3 EPR-radar
US conservatives are good at making non-controversies into ‘controversies’. E.g., creationism.
If/when the GOP decides that promulgating 2 + 2 = 5 is politically useful, that will poll at 30% in the US after the talking points have been aired by Fox News and Limbaugh for a few weeks.
We saw how the Treaty on Disabilities was made into something sinister.
re: #4 goddamnedfrank
The same as they feel any day — insufferably smug about not having voted for Clinton. This isn’t hard to understand. If they understood the magnitude of their crime, they would likely die of shame on the spot.
re: #2 darthstar
Sean McCabe @darthstar99
@joshledermanAP The US helped write the damn thing in the first place. Trump just went against OUR OWN WORD as a nation. Stupid fucker.
4:51 PM - 1 Jun 2017 * San Francisco, CA
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No…Obama wrote it.
It must be undone for that reason alone.
/
I didn’t know what covfefe was, now I do. Well sorta. I wish I had that five minutes of mu life back.
The nihilist conservatives don’t care if leaving #ParisAgreement hurts the environment. They only care if liberals are upset.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) June 1, 2017
#IGiveUpOnToday pic.twitter.com/BQ7lY97ztP
— Citizen K-fefe (@Citizen_Kryptik) June 1, 2017
It’s days like these that make me wish I drank.
1/4 The most discouraging thing about Trump bailing out of the Paris Accord is that it was ALREADY so watered down it was not going to …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 1, 2017
2/4 do very much to mitigate the overwhelming climate change disaster headed our way. Now we don’t even have that. Future generations …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 1, 2017
3/4 of human beings are going to curse the blinkered fools who ignorantly stood in the way of action that could have prevented what’s …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 1, 2017
4/4 coming.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 1, 2017
Trump: Hey Frenchie…let’s talk about this climate thing…initial poll numbers aren’t looking so good here.
Macron: New Phone…Who dis?
Macron spoke with Trump and told him the Paris accords were not re-negotiable, his office says. No call readout yet from the WH.
— Justin Sink (@justinsink) June 1, 2017
But, to all you “principled” progs, please feel free to continue w/ your fake outrage against KG because her stunt *really* is so important.
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) June 1, 2017
I wonder how much of today’s announcement is due to Trump getting his hand crushed by a Frenchman?
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) June 1, 2017
re: #13 darthstar
Trump: Hey Frenchie…let’s talk about this climate thing…initial poll numbers aren’t looking so good here.
Macron: New Phone…Who dis?[Embedded content]
I grew up with Sink, no joke.
For the record, Pittsburgh/Allegheny Co went for HRC by about 60-40.
From downstairs:
As I have said before, we are fortunate that she has been willing to step up into the role of leader of the Free World, especially now with a strong ally in Macron.
I can only hope they can do something to mitigate the idiocy of the US regime.
Remember, the basic claim is that scientists everywhere are willing to lie for grant money (that they mostly have to spend on equipment and other expenses to do research), while a far smaller number of companies that make trillions in profits (after expenses) are telling the truth.
Furthermore, there are a large number of coastal peoples and islanders who are lying about sea-level rise, and oceanographers lying about ocean acidity.
Then again we should probably pause and consider that industries bought politicians and “thinkers” to present a similar front against asbestos, various pesticides, tobacco smoke, and opiiod safety (among other things). Indeed, we should all fucking pause and consider that sometimes its the same fucking guys using the same fucking misdirections.
re: #17 Decatur Deb
For the record, Pittsburgh/Allegheny Co went for HRC by about 60-40.
Yep fuck him for using Pittsburgh to justify this.
And here’s a cute puppy
This is Zoey. She really likes the planet. Would hate to see willful ignorance and the denial of fairly elemental science destroy it. 13/10 pic.twitter.com/T1xlgaPujm
— WeRateDogs™ (@dog_rates) June 1, 2017
a forgotten hero of our generation pic.twitter.com/7FnU6WNC9U
— emily💫 (@themainemily) June 1, 2017
Got some wingnut on my FB twisting himself him in knots trying to convince me Hillary would have bailed on the Paris accord too.
re: #19 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus
E.g., as documented in Merchants of Doubt (both book and film).
re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg
Got some wingnut on my FB twisting himself him in knots trying to convince me Hillary would have bailed on the Paris accord too.
Yeah fucking right.
I don’t think I’ve come across this new bit on skunk Jeff Sessions here at LGF. It broke late yesterday. Al Franken was talking about it on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show last night.
I hope like all get out it costs Sessions his job. At the very least further reduces his role in any investigations and then maybe those investigations can double back on him and put him into the tick of the Russian investigations.
Yeah, I really really hate that little fucker.
(Note: Not the best source…but I didn’t have time to look for others)
Democrats-Jeff Sessions Should Resign If He Lied About Third Meeting With Russia
Two Senate Democrats say Attorney General Jeff Sessions should resign if it turns out he lied about a reported third meeting with Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak during the presidential campaign.
“We served with the Attorney General in the Senate and on the Judiciary Committee for many years,” Sens. Pat Leahy, D-Vt., and Al Franken, D-Minn., said in a joint statement Thursday. “We know he would not tolerate dishonesty if he were in our shoes.”
“If it is determined that the Attorney General still has not been truthful with Congress and the American people about his contacts with Russian officials during the campaign, he needs to resign,” they said.
Leahy and Franken revealed that they asked then-FBI Director James Comey on two separate occasions to investigate the possibility that Attorney General Jeff Sessions may have had an unreported third meeting with Kislyak.
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re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg
Got some wingnut on my FB twisting himself him in knots trying to convince me Hillary would have bailed on the Paris accord too.
That’s fucked up, even for an internet wingnut. This wingnut presumably thinks that bailing on Paris is a good idea, and that Hillary Clinton is incapable of doing anything that is not evil. The contradiction is blatant.
Elon Musk to Trump: You quit Paris, so I quit you
Elon Musk, the CEO of Tesla and SpaceX, has quit two of President Trump’s business advisory councils after the president announced he will pull the U.S. out of the historic Paris climate agreement.
“Am departing presidential councils. Climate change is real. Leaving Paris is not good for America or the world,” Musk said Thursday on Twitter, shortly after the president announced from the Rose Garden that he would begin the process of leaving the accord.
Musk had vowed to step down from the advisory councils he sits on if the president pulled out of the pact.
re: #12 Charles Johnson
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But pulling out will only raise the global temps a tiny little bit.
Hey Donny…what begins to happen to ice at 32.25° for a prolonged time?
re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg
I don’t believe there is anything a wing nut cannot twist into knots to make him believe it. It becomes easy to justify your existence when you deny actual reality for your own. And the more we try to get them to face reality, the tighter those knots become.
I know exactly what should happen when the fire ant range in the US increases due to climate change — prominent deniers should be staked out over the new fire ant nests.
BREAKING: Philippine police chief says no evidence that casino attack is terrorism and no confirmed reports of gunshot wounds.
— The Associated Press (@AP) June 1, 2017
Lots of news today, but I think it’s a big deal that POTUS prematurely called this a “terrorist attack in Manila.” Who told him that? https://t.co/8CQQlzskAN
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) June 1, 2017
re: #33 EPR-radar
I know exactly what should happen when the fire ant range in the US increases due to climate change — prominent deniers should be staked out over the new fire ant nests.
That’s not even a “when”:
This town was the edge of the alligator range for our rivers when we moved here. Now they’re 50 miles north in Lake Eufaula.
re: #28 Shiplord Kirel
So Climate Change was the line Elon? Not racism, fascism, or any of the reality-denial that has gone on so far? Were you OK with all of those things?
You understand it’s called GLOBAL warming for a reason.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) June 1, 2017
re: #37 Ace-o-aces
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What I thought it was if it’s not burning hot every day in my bum fuck town, Al Bore is a liar!
LIVE NOW: Watch @SpaceX’s #Dragon cargo craft launch at 5:55pm ET to deliver science & supplies to @Space_Station: https://t.co/mzKW5uV4hS pic.twitter.com/7ApucegX0s
— NASA (@NASA) June 1, 2017
Gee they should have moved to a country without sane sex marriage.//
I can’t even speak.
An Oranges hued fucknut who is just doing this for a win, hugely, hugest in fact unbelievable win, pandering to drooling idiots who voted for him, yet every other fucking thing he has attempted he has either bottled on, or been stopped from doing.
He literally had to do this. It is the single thing he could unilaterally that would not only piss off the same, but get the slack jawed spittle dribblers cheering.
Campaign promise to move the embassy in Israel? Nah he painted on that. Pull out of NAFTA, Nah, punt. Force Mexico to pay for a wall? Nope. Stop ISIS in 30 days? Nope. Trying to save the planet? Fuck yeah USA USA.
How about starting a GoFundMe to raise money to buy plaques, have the names of all of these craven shitgibbons engraved on them and placed around the world and placed on mountains, so when the human race are huddling in caves they’ll at !east know who to blame.
Wankers, the lot of them.
He truly is a weak, pathetic little man
Feel better now.
re: #40 HappyWarrior
Gee they should have moved to a country without sane sex marriage.//
Russia sounds like a good place for them, eh?
They can soak in the pollution there too. Maybe go for vacations at Chernobyl.
Strong leader too.
re: #36 Jack Burton
So Climate Change was the line Elon? Not racism, fascism, or any of the reality-denial that has gone on so far? Were you OK with all of those things?
I don’t think Elon was ever a Trump supporter. But much like Neil DeGrasse Tyson being on an advisory board under the Bush administration maybe he though he could do some good and guide policy in the right direction. When it was clear his advice isn’t actually wanted, he bailed. It is still the case that it is easier to effect change from inside the system than from outside.
re: #42 ObserverArt
Russia sounds like a good place for them, eh?
They can soak in the pollution there too. Maybe go for vacations at Chernobyl.
Strong leader too.
Men are men there too.//
re: #42 ObserverArt
Russia sounds like a good place for them, eh?
They can soak in the pollution there too. Maybe go for vacations at Chernobyl.
Strong leader too.
Chernobyl is in Ukraine.
re: #43 danarchy
I don’t think Elon was ever a Trump supporter. But much like Neil DeGrasse Tyson being on an advisory board under the Bush administration maybe he though he could do some good and guide policy in the right direction. When it was clear his advice isn’t actually wanted, he bailed. It is still the case that it is easier to effect change from inside the system than from outside.
Given who Trump is Musk should’ve known better.
re: #43 danarchy
I don’t think Elon was ever a Trump supporter. But much like Neil DeGrasse Tyson being on an advisory board under the Bush administration maybe he though he could do some good and guide policy in the right direction. When it was clear his advice isn’t actually wanted, he bailed. It is still the case that it is easier to effect change from inside the system than from outside.
I don’t think the usual rule of it being easier to effect change from inside the system than from outside applies to something as comprehensively corrupt as the trump maladministration.
re: #45 Jack Burton
For now. Kidding. Kinda.
re: #46 goddamnedfrank
It’s one those things where I’m guessing you try because you see a tactic that maybe won’t work, but that others won’t have a window to even try.
Musk has access, and maybe even cachet as a rich genius, to sway Trump. It was a forlorn hope maneuver.
He tried. But we failed our children.
re: #51 Charles Johnson
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We had the best of my lifetime and went to worst in anyone’s.
re: #2 darthstar
Sean, In it’s small pea sized mind it wasn’t our nation, It was Obama.
— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) June 1, 2017
There’s a guy from Florida who sits across from me at work.
He voted for Trump.
It is going to be really hard for me today not to physically attack him.
Everyone who voted for that scumbag is complicit in harming billions of human beings.
re: #55 ipsos
What the hell do I tell my kids?
Anyone?
Tell them how very sorry you are. And its not hopeless yet.
re: #55 ipsos
What the hell do I tell my kids?
Anyone?
You tell them that we still have to fight, that this is no different than the fight for civil rights or any other struggle. The thing is, even if he hadn’t pulled out, he could have just ignored it. Tell him that states like California and New York are still going to take the steps and that with other major economies observing it, we will still head in the right direction. We just have more work to do.
Okay…that was actually funny. You’re like a maggot emerging from a rotting corpse. Thanks for sharing.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 1, 2017
re: #62 darthstar
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Fuck Hannity.
I’m going out for drinks.
Fuck Trump.
Fuck Jill Stein of the “green” party.
/rant
Jerry Brown:
“Donald Trump has absolutely chosen the wrong course. He’s wrong on the facts. America’s economy is boosted by following the Paris Agreement. He’s wrong on the science. Totally wrong. California will resist this misguided and insane course of action. Trump is AWOL but California is on the field, ready for battle.”
re: #55 ipsos
What the hell do I tell my kids?
Anyone?
Everything as truthful and in depth as you can. Start with basic civics…move on to history, then give ‘em some politics.
Tell them if they learn and work hard, gather all their friends up and go out and vote for reasonable people they can right the ship.
re: #62 darthstar
Would probably be more appropriate if he emerged from his ass instead.
Here’s what happened when Iran introduced a basic income
The results surprised skeptics.
Excerpt:
The report found no evidence for the idea that people will work less under a universal income, and found that in some cases, like in the service industry, people worked more, expanding their businesses or pursuing more satisfying lines of work.
The researchers did find that young people — specifically people in their twenties — worked less, but noted that Iran never had a high level of employment among young people, and that they were likely enrolling in school with the added income.
Governors of New York, California, and Washington announce the formation of the “United States Climate Alliance”. pic.twitter.com/KvAAGbP2F6
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 1, 2017
re: #58 Belafon
I think more than a couple of the even so called “conservative” governors might be persuaded to rethink this stupidity IF enough citizens raise enough hell. You get enough cities, counties and states on board with this, Dipshit in Chief’s idiocy can be diluted.
And speaking of that word, “conservative”, next person here who uses that term in front of me gets a full metal “WTF are you conserving?” shoved right in their face. Nothing about these people is conservative, they are reactionary extremists. It’s time to refer to them in those terms.
(edited to add, by “here” I mean at home. I’m in GA, there’s herds of these idiots all over the place)
Well Macron doesn’t sound up to taking any kind of shit from Trump.
Trump’s climate pullback opens door to Chinese leadership. https://t.co/xiTnrgQBJA
— The Associated Press (@AP) June 1, 2017
“The Beacons are lit! Gondor calls for aid.”
“That treaty is a bad deal for Rohan and I decided to pull out of it.”#ParisAccord— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) June 1, 2017
Macron responds…in English.
! Macron ends his speech in English: “Make our planet great again. Thank you.” https://t.co/CWId0QUu7G
— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) June 1, 2017
Thank you….
We are deeply disappointed that the United States federal government has decided to withdraw from the Paris Agreement.
— Justin Trudeau (@JustinTrudeau) June 1, 2017
Big story here is Trudeau’s use of “United States federal government,” not “United States.” Countries are distinguishing Trump from the USA. https://t.co/bmbmZV3JFe
— Will Saletan (@saletan) June 1, 2017
re: #55 ipsos
What the hell do I tell my kids?
Anyone?
Depends on the age.
But whatever you do, encourage them to get involved. Don’t force them, but make sure they know when you’re writing to your representatives, or going to a town hall, or researching the issues. Give them a chance to learn. To do, if they want to. Teach them critical thinking skills and how to spot propaganda. Encourage them to think about what matters to them and how to build their own political beliefs from there, instead of rubber stamping. Talk about how compromise is sometimes necessary and how to decide where they’re okay with it and where they’re not.
And you teach them that sometimes you lose some but you can’t quit fighting. As they get older and understand more, at least they’ll know you cared by the fact that you kept fighting even when some things felt hopeless.
Strong statement from Macron ‘we will not renegotiate a less ambitious deal… There is no plan b, there is no planet b’
— Alberto Nardelli (@AlbertoNardelli) June 1, 2017
Side note: if Trump had made this decision weeks ago, he obviously was too afraid to admit to NATO leaders in person. Like Mexico and wall.
— Juliette Kayyem (@juliettekayyem) June 1, 2017
Exactly. Like most bullies he turns into a craven coward when he faces the people he’s been attacking. https://t.co/MsAuEBUVpS
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 1, 2017
Sooooo, is the yam watching the reviews coming in?
All upset because he didn’t get the love?
lol, probably.
It seems Gov. Brown is flying to China tomorrow to discuss climate change. I wonder what Trump thinks of that?
re: #67 unproven innocence
Here’s what happened when Iran introduced a basic income
The results surprised skeptics.
Excerpt:
I believe it will happen in America someday, if we don’t destroy ourselves first.
re: #79 Stanley Sea
Sooooo, is the yam watching the reviews coming in?
All upset because he didn’t get the love?
lol, probably.
Fox and Friends will love this stupidity, and that is trump’s only source of information.
I just don’t think a typo from a mentally suspect so called leader is all that funny. Maybe I’ve just lost my sense of humor.
re: #73 Decatur Deb
I’m hoping these stupid ads are turning people off. I noted earlier that the Ossoff campaign has been really good about responses to these ridiculous ads in a fairly quick time frame, so it’ll be interesting to see what they come up with next.
I am SO sick of this “he’s not one of us” shit over and over. One reason I’d never make it in politics here is because I would be responding with “yeah, I’m not a rich, white douchebag, and thank goodness for that, ya’all can have your little club, thankyewverymuch”.
re: #81 Big Beautiful Door
I believe it will happen in America someday, if we don’t destroy ourselves first.
A basic income or destroying ourselves are the two alternatives the US has.
re: #79 Stanley Sea
Sooooo, is the yam watching the reviews coming in?
All upset because he didn’t get the love?
lol, probably.
Is Hannity back from vacation? If so, Trump is listening to Hannity, where he is being praised for his leadership in saving the economy.
re: #73 Decatur Deb
GOP ad for the tight House seat in the GA special election, one we can win:
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Of course.
Nothing to do about it now except cry over the spilled milk if you want. Or, try to turn it, which comments from someone earlier said Ossoff is doing.
No way to turn back time. And by all means learn from it.
But if you want, you could build a cross, get some nails and if Griffin is ever in your area, you can nail her to it. /
re: #81 Big Beautiful Door
I believe it will happen in America someday, if we don’t destroy ourselves first.
You’ll accept the dole the robot masters decree for you, and learn to like it.
re: #84 A Mom Anon
If I were stupid enough to campaign for political office, my campaign would end the first moment I was confronted with aggressive ignorance. My response of “Your ignorance is not as good as an expert’s knowledge” would be fatal.
re: #78 Charles Johnson
Juliette Kayyem ✔ @juliettekayyem
Side note: if Trump had made this decision weeks ago, he obviously was too afraid to admit to NATO leaders in person. Like Mexico and wall.
3:51 PM - 1 Jun 2017
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Kind of makes it clear why Bannon and Priebus didn’t go on the full trip. He needed to keep them quiet until today.
re: #87 ObserverArt
Of course.
Nothing to do about it now except cry over the spilled milk if you want. Or, try to turn it, which comments from someone earlier said Ossoff is doing.
No way to turn back time. And by all means learn from it.
But if you want, you could build a cross, get some nails and if Griffin is ever in your area, you can nail her to it. /
She’s Catholic, she’d be into that. Or I could have her head on a platter.
re: #88 Decatur Deb
You’ll accept the dole the robot masters decree for you, and learn to like it.
Inhuman robot overlords is 10,000 times better than fucking Republicans and motherfucking trump. Sign me up!
re: #83 plansbandc
I just don’t think a typo from a mentally suspect so called leader is all that funny. Maybe I’ve just lost my sense of humor.
Understandable - these days, I have also found that a sense of humor is harder and harder to hold on to.
I keep trying to, though, because fuck trump.
re: #92 EPR-radar
Inhuman robot overlords is 10,000 times better than fucking Republicans and motherfucking trump. Sign me up!
At least they can do the math.
re: #89 EPR-radar
LOL, I’d get hammered on dropping F-Bombs all over the place. I can see the ads now….
“and she kisses her children with that mouth…(cue scary music)…just like…Nancy Pelosi….”
re: #82 EPR-radar
Fox and Friends will love this stupidity, and that is trump’s only source of
informationfodder for his ‘thinking’ and tweets.
What the hell was I thinking? trump has nothing to do with information and neither does Fox News.
re: #95 A Mom Anon
LOL, I’d get hammered on dropping F-Bombs all over the place. I can see the ads now….
“and she kisses her children with that mouth…(cue scary music)…just like…Nancy Pelosi….”
Needs more Demon Sheep.
MIT researcher whose report Trump used, to say Paris reduces global temp by “tiny amount,” says he “disagrees completely” w/characterization
— Michelle Ye Hee Lee (@myhlee) June 1, 2017
re: #93 Jebediah, RBG
Understandable - these days, I have also found that a sense of humor is harder and harder to hold on to.
I keep trying to, though, because fuck trump.
I mean, to some extent it was a Twitter meme that played out in real time and drew a lot of its amusement from that, if that sort of meta-humor is something you can enjoy. Add to that the part where it became a little bit of a community cathartic thing and that probably describes 95% of its popularity. All the humor comes from the tweets around it and not the typo itself.
And this is probably more typing out than it deserved but whatever.
re: #73 Decatur Deb
GOP ad for the tight House seat in the GA special election, one we can win:
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On a more positive note, Archie Parnell’s “House of Cards” spoof ad. (Running for Mulvaney’s seat; which would be Frank Underwood’s seat as well.) Getting tremendous coverage—the Hill, HuffPo, CBS, NYMag, Daily Beast. Of course, the wingers who don’t get humor, or satire, or—well, much of anything, think he’s running as Frank Underwood and are up in arms. I love it a lot.
re: #99 Shiplord Kirel
Kathy Griffin is running for Congress?
Of course. In reality, GOP public policy fucks over everyone except the ultra-wealthy, while Democrats try to make things work better for everyone.
That is why the GOP always runs against imaginary and demonized enemies.
re: #102 BeachDem
On a more positive note, Archie Parnell’s “House of Cards” spoof ad. (Running for Mulvaney’s seat; which would be Frank Underwood’s seat as well.) Getting tremendous coverage—the Hill, HuffPo, CBS, NYMag, Daily Beast. Of course, the wingers who don’t get humor, or satire, or—well, much of anything, think he’s running as Frank Underwood and are up in arms. I love it a lot.
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That’s brilliant.
re: #56 Scout
There’s a guy from Florida who sits across from me at work.
He voted for Trump.
It is going to be really hard for me today not to physically attack him.
You could always opt for the passive-aggressive route instead, like, say, putting a dead bug in his coffee… ;)
Today, in “The Enemy Of My Enemy May Be An Asshole”
If democrats have any honor they’ll restore the judicial filibuster when they take power back.
— EJ (@KeyseysNotion) June 1, 2017
They won’t, because they got Republicans to end it without having to do it themselves. https://t.co/igvoPUt9UJ
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) June 1, 2017
“Look what you made me do!”
re: #100 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I agree - and I will admit I am wondering what his next joke-worthy stupidity will be, and if it will take longer than 24 hours to appear.
Trump is just doing what the Republicans in the Senate would have done withe Paris accord, if it had been a treaty negotiated by Obama alone. We can all make Trump the focus of our displeasure, but he’s just one more cog in the wheel, as far as climate change politics in America goes.
re: #105 MsJ
For as many people as there are who are unhappy with Trump, I am not sure how effective that will be. Trump is not popular even with a lot of folks who voted for him.
From your lips to Nate Silver’s ear.
Fox needs to be banned. They play an outsize part in this madness. When I think of their viewers, “Allegory of the Cave” comes to mind.
re: #107 Skip Intro
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I see they used a suitably smug image of Trump.
Too bad he and his followers will see this 180° from the reality. They will chuckle Europe doesn’t like Donnie and think the image is great.
And of course, that is how Trump will see it too.
re: #108 Blind Frog Belly White
Who is this EJ idiot and why the fuck does he think it a good idea for Democrats to unilaterally disarm in the face of overwhelming Republican treachery?
If democrats have any honor they’ll restore the judicial filibuster when they take power back.
— EJ (@KeyseysNotion) June 1, 2017
If republicans had any honor, they wouldn’t have killed it. Don’t expect us to save you from own goals. https://t.co/iE6RJ5vvyp
— Jebediah Springfield (@JebediahRBG) June 1, 2017
re: #116 EPR-radar
Who is this EJ idiot and why the fuck does he think it a good idea for Democrats to unilaterally disarm in the face of overwhelming Republican treachery?
Twitter rando?
I mean, what good would it do Democrats to restore something that has already been nuked, since when the GOP takes over again, they could renuke it.
re: #109 Jebediah, RBG
I agree - and I will admit I am wondering what his next joke-worthy stupidity will be, and if it will take longer than 24 hours to appear.
I’m just coping how I can.
I resisted the urge to go out for a second run today but am compromising by increasing what was supposed to be a 5 mile run tomorrow to 10 minimum.
It might end up being 12, but this is probably not the best idea. I may do it anyway.
re: #123 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I’m just coping how I can.
I resisted the urge to go out for a second run today but am compromising by increasing what was supposed to be a 5 mile run tomorrow to 10 minimum.
It might end up being 12, but this is probably not the best idea. I may do it anyway.
That’s our Klys. Anything worth doing is worth overdoing!
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Here’s a modest proposal — forced reallocation of the assets of US climate change denier plutocrats into real estate threatened by climate change. No insurance coverage, of course. Let them be obliged to put their money where their ideology is. After all, if the deniers are correct, there is no threat of a total financial loss.
re: #123 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I wonder how many people are getting fitter because they are using exercise to help cope?
Twelve sounds good…do it!
re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White
That’s our Klys. Anything worth doing is worth overdoing!
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It’s been a really shitty week on a wide range of levels. My coping skills are shot.
re: #126 Jebediah, RBG
I wonder how many people are getting fitter because they are using exercise to help cope?
Twelve sounds good…do it!
I’m using food to help cope. It’s not working out as well.
re: #117 MsJ
What is Nate’s take on Ossoff?
Last I checked, Nate thought he had about a 50/50 chance.
re: #127 klys (maker of Silmarils)
It’s been a really shitty week on a wide range of levels. My coping skills are shot.
When all else fails, nuke it.
I’ve never really thought of the US president as ‘a piece of shit’ until these past few weeks.
re: #129 Big Beautiful Door
Last I checked, Nate thought he had about a 50/50 chance.
Better than a sharp kick in the head. 50/50 in deep red GA is pretty freaking good.
re: #125 EPR-radar
Here’s a modest proposal — forced reallocation of the assets of US climate change denier plutocrats into real estate threatened by climate change. No insurance coverage, of course. Let them be obliged to put their money where their ideology is. After all, if the deniers are correct, there is no threat of a total financial loss.
I’m totally fine with giving them Florida.
re: #134 Jack Burton
I’m totally fine with giving them Florida.
I’d prefer they get Texas, but to be honest, Texas is probably lost anyway.
Donald Trump won more popular votes than any other Republican candidate for President, in US history.
Remember that.
Your fellow Americans voted for him, in droves.
re: #134 Jack Burton
I’m totally fine with giving them Florida.
Me too, especially since all the pricey real estate (Trump’s dump, Limbaugh’s dump) will be under water soon anyway. Guess who they’ll be turning to to bail them out.
re: #137 freetoken
Donald Trump won more popular votes than any other Republican candidate for President, in US history.
Remember that.
Your fellow Americans voted for him, in droves.
And yet more of our fellow Americans voted for Hillary.
The pulling out of the Paris accords was a part of most Republicans’ desires. Candidacies included this as a position.
re: #139 klys (maker of Silmarils)
And yet more of our fellow Americans voted for Hillary.
True but irrelevant.
re: #132 EPR-radar
I’ve never really thought of the US president as ‘a piece of shit’ until these past few weeks.
I haven’t thought highly of a couple of them. I really disliked Bush 2 because I caught him in a blatant lie and I hate liars. Trump is on a whole other level of lying, scheming, shitheels. He is a traitor to our country - literally.
Thats weird because I in fact have always felt that he was a piece of shit, before he was president. When he ran in the primaries I still felt he was a piece of shit. In November I completely maintained my belief in his deeply rooted piece of shitness. In January it simply reaffirmed my assertion, that he was, and as he is president, a piece of shit.
Can I scare all y’all for a second? Donald J. Trump is single-handedly destroying all of our hard work. Congress has not yet successfully passed and had signed a single piece of major legislation that Trump has said he would achieve. God help us if they ever get their collective ass in gear and figure out how to get things passed.
re: #137 freetoken
Donald Trump won more popular votes than any other Republican candidate for President, in US history.
Remember that.
Your fellow Americans voted for him, in droves.
The US population is growing at a sufficient rate that nearly every presidential election breaks this record for both parties. We have enough real problems that we shouldn’t get distracted by this statistical sleight of hand.
Never liked Trump ever. Obnoxious self promoting boob.
re: #142 MsJ
I haven’t thought highly of a couple of them. I really disliked Bush 2 because I caught him in a blatant lie and I hate liars. Trump is on a whole other level of lying, scheming, shitheels. He is a traitor to our country - literally.
What I hate about Trump, besides what you said above, is that he always gets away with it.
re: #137 freetoken
Donald Trump won more popular votes than any other Republican candidate for President, in US history.
Remember that.
Your fellow Americans voted for him, in droves.
And many of those people are desperate and he made promises they truly wanted to believe he would keep.
Not all our fellow Americans are assholes. Many are hurting and desperate and ill or uninformed. And a lot of people regret their vote. I know it doesn’t make a difference but that’s where we’re at.
re: #134 Jack Burton
I’m totally fine with giving them Florida.
Florida. Now with added sinkholes. If the sea don’t get ‘em, collapsing land will.
re: #139 klys (maker of Silmarils)
And yet more of our fellow Americans voted for Hillary.
I wish there were a way to know for sure how many votes she lost to various voter-suppression efforts.
Of course, I would MUCH prefer that there be no voter suppression, but it turns out I don’t get my way about lots of stuff, dang it.
re: #143 451_Montag
Thats weird because I in fact have always felt that he was a piece of shit, before he was president. When he ran in the primaries I still felt he was a piece of shit. In November I completely maintained my belief in his deeply rooted piece of shitness. In January it simply reaffirmed my assertion, that he was, and as he is president, a piece of shit.
trump has been a piece of shit for decades. The us president has been a piece of shit for a few weeks.
re: #128 Blind Frog Belly White
I’m using food to help cope. It’s not working out as well.
Honestly I’ve been doing some of this too so mostly I’m just seeing an increase in my fitness levels without a decrease in weight. Which is …blah.
re: #152 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Honestly I’ve been doing some of this too so mostly I’m just seeing an increase in my fitness levels without a decrease in weight. Which is …blah.
Same here. Although at least I finally got off the drinking bandwagon for a short time.
re: #145 EPR-radar
The US population is growing at a sufficient rate that nearly every presidential election breaks this record for both parties. We have enough real problems that we shouldn’t get distracted by this statistical sleight of hand.
It’s more than slight of hand.
Trump pulling out of the Paris Accord is popular with his voters, with Republicans.
This is not a Trump anomaly, like eating burnt steak with ketchup.
re: #144 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Can I scare all y’all for a second? Donald J. Trump is single-handedly destroying all of our hard work. Congress has not yet successfully passed and had signed a single piece of major legislation that Trump has said he would achieve. God help us if they ever get their collective ass in gear and figure out how to get things passed.
One reason I’m not eager to see him replaced by Pence.
— Tom Woodward (@topcattcw) June 1, 2017
re: #134 Jack Burton
I’m totally fine with giving them Florida.
Florida has some good pre-pilgrims history. Give ‘em Texas instead.
I can’t absorb all the whacko things GRIFTUS has and is doing.
The country will be bankrupt by the end of his term. It is his MO.
The rest of the world will stop trading with us.
re: #146 HappyWarrior
Never liked Trump ever. Obnoxious self promoting boob.
Loud mouthed and crass, too.
re: #158 Birth Control Works
Florida has some good pre-pilgrims history. Give ‘em Texas instead.
Texas isn’t going to be completely underwater in a century*. Florida will be.
*Texas will be slightly underwater.
re: #155 freetoken
It’s more than slight of hand.
Trump pulling out of the Paris Accord is popular with his voters, with Republicans.
This is not a Trump anomaly, like eating burnt steak with ketchup.
Climate change denial being a core part of the GOP platform is a good example of a real problem.
trump getting more popular votes than any previous GOP candidate in a country with a growing population is meaningless. The same would be true for any GOP candidate that had managed to win in 2016.
re: #144 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Now, with my fear-mongering and defeatism out of the way, let’s get on with the good news: We’ve stopped them from passing any of their catastrophic, self-destructive legislation. We can continue and persevere. It’s going to be a tough fight to get our country back, but short of starting an actual nuclear war, there isn’t anything Trump can do that we can’t undo.
re: #161 Jack Burton
Texas isn’t going to be completely underwater in a century*. Florida will be.
*Texas will be slightly underwater.
I still prefer to keep Florida.
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re: #162 EPR-radar
Climate change denial being a core part of the GOP platform is a good example of a real problem.
trump getting more popular votes than any previous GOP candidate in a country with a growing population is meaningless. The same would be true for any GOP candidate that had managed to win in 2016.
The party of free-trade capitalism really doesn’t get it. They want isolationism. We need the rest of the world more than it needs us.
re: #143 451_Montag
Thats weird because I in fact have always felt that he was a piece of shit, before he was president. When he ran in the primaries I still felt he was a piece of shit. In November I completely maintained my belief in his deeply rooted piece of shitness. In January it simply reaffirmed my assertion, that he was, and as he is president, a piece of shit.
He was a piece of shit in the 80’s.
WOW! The outrage over Trump pulling US out of the Paris Climate Agreement is AMAZING! Love the Global support! #USAllies4Ever! 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/ObyuX7DKgc
— StayUnitedUSA (@Vegas040805) June 1, 2017
re: #164 Birth Control Works
I still prefer to keep Florida.
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The gentle slopes around us are fossil beaches. We were seafront, and seem determined to get back to that.
re: #162 EPR-radar
trump getting more popular votes than any previous GOP candidate in a country with a growing population is meaningless. The same would be true for any GOP candidate that had managed to win in 2016.
Even with increasing population, the election-to-election votes for any party are not guaranteed to go up election-to-election.
For example, both McCain and Romney got fewer popular votes than GWB got in 2004.
Trump is easy to disparage. Yet I think he’s more symptomatic than being an original cause.
re: #143 451_Montag
Thats weird because I in fact have always felt that he was a piece of shit, before he was president. When he ran in the primaries I still felt he was a piece of shit. In November I completely maintained my belief in his deeply rooted piece of shitness. In January it simply reaffirmed my assertion, that he was, and as he is president, a piece of shit.
Me too. But have you changed your mind since January? Not me!
US intel official: Pres. Trump “was freelancing” with the terrorism declaration and “a laugh went up in the Situation Room” when he made it.
— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) June 1, 2017
— Gideon Resnick (@GideonResnick) June 1, 2017
re: #171 Stanley Sea
The ever-loving fuck?
re: #144 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Can I scare all y’all for a second? Donald J. Trump is single-handedly destroying all of our hard work. Congress has not yet successfully passed and had signed a single piece of major legislation that Trump has said he would achieve. God help us if they ever get their collective ass in gear and figure out how to get things passed.
Isn’t that a culmination of the last 30 odd years if the GOP agenda? Their hysterical scare mongering and illogical agenda positions has meant that anything they try and implement is almost by definition too extreme. As BLOTUS sold himself as being so far beyond right wing in many ways, the policies themselves reflect this.
They are finding out the hard way that what sounds good to the drooling masses from the sidelines, doesn’t really translate well to real world policy. Trump can’t back off because of his base and that is the saving grace of the situation.
To fucked up in the face of reality, but as they are in power the policies designed to stick it to Obama have to hurt the base. He has to design policies that hurt his base in the long term, which sounded good a year ago, or let them down.
Remember it is this fucked up 4 months in. 4 months.
re: #160 MsJ
He has always given me the creeps. Call it paranoia, or knowing from past experience or whatever, but he just exudes creepy, rapey, blech. Whenever I’ve ever had those feelings about anyone it’s usually proven right. I’d hate to ever be alone with him, ever. I have a visceral physical reaction to him, he makes me sick, literally. I doubt I am the only woman/trauma survivor who gets that same pit of the stomach reaction to him.
He’s a horrible human being and proud of it.
Me: sets up flawless heat competition trial, lizards will fight over hot podium, there can only be one winner!
Lizards:#ALlizards2017 pic.twitter.com/WLkONCSemv— Kirsty MacLeod (@kirstyjean) June 1, 2017
re: #77 Stanley Sea
You’ve been brainwashed by the far-right, and are working toward your own destruction
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) June 1, 2017
re: #137 freetoken
Donald Trump won more popular votes than any other Republican candidate for President, in US history.
Remember that.
Your fellow Americans voted for him, in droves.
I DO remember that. All the time. It’s why, when I read the calls for HRC to accept total responsibility for her defeat, or articles talking about what Dems must do to win, I find myself very frustrated. What if the problem isn’t that Dems are bad at messaging? Or that Hillary was a ‘flawed candidate’? Or that the Dems have no ‘stars’?
What if the problem is the American electorate? I mean, Trump could not have been more obvious about being a fraud, an Islamophobe, a racist, a misogynist, a liar, an aggressively ignorant buffoon.
46.1% of the American electorate saw him, and voted for him anyway.
There were so many things that should have ended his candidacy, but just to pick 3 of the most egregious - he mocked a disabled man’s disability; he mocked the heroism of a man who gave 5 years of his life in hell for America; he bragged to a near-stranger about committing sexual assault with impunity.
It is not possible that these people didn’t see this. They voted for him anyway. How do you appeal to someone who would do that, in a way that wouldn’t cost you your own soul?
re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White
I DO remember that. All the time. It’s why, when I read the calls for HRC to accept total responsibility for her defeat, or articles talking about what Dems must do to win, I find myself very frustrated. What if the problem isn’t that Dems are bad at messaging? Or that Hillary was a ‘flawed candidate’? Or that the Dems have no ‘stars’?
What if the problem is the American electorate? I mean, Trump could not have been more obvious about being a fraud, an Islamophobe, a racist, a misogynist, a liar, an aggressively ignorant buffoon.
46.1% of the American electorate saw him, and voted for him anyway.
There were so many things that should have ended his candidacy, but just to pick 3 of the most egregious - he mocked a disabled man’s disability; he mocked the heroism of a man who gave 5 years of his life in hell for America; he bragged to a near-stranger about committing sexual assault with impunity.
It is not possible that these people didn’t see this. They voted for him anyway. How do you appeal to someone who would do that, in a way that wouldn’t cost you your own soul?
The battle is in the large number who chose not to be in the 2016 electorate. That includes a lot of our “natural” Left.
re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White
I DO remember that. All the time. It’s why, when I read the calls for HRC to accept total responsibility for her defeat, or articles talking about what Dems must do to win, I find myself very frustrated. What if the problem isn’t that Dems are bad at messaging? Or that Hillary was a ‘flawed candidate’? Or that the Dems have no ‘stars’?
What if the problem is the American electorate? I mean, Trump could not have been more obvious about being a fraud, an Islamophobe, a racist, a misogynist, a liar, an aggressively ignorant buffoon.
46.1% of the American electorate saw him, and voted for him anyway.
There were so many things that should have ended his candidacy, but just to pick 3 of the most egregious - he mocked a disabled man’s disability; he mocked the heroism of a man who gave 5 years of his life in hell for America; he bragged to a near-stranger about committing sexual assault with impunity.
It is not possible that these people didn’t see this. They voted for him anyway. How do you appeal to someone who would do that, in a way that wouldn’t cost you your own soul?
Trump didn’t beat Hillary. He beat the image of Hillary based on 30 years of rabid attacks from the right.
Oh and her emails obviously, duh
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Hillary lost because she is an independent woman.
Stands by her man, yet is still her own person.
Such females scare the shit out of people —especially women who are to wimpy to stand on their own and need the pedestal to survive.
re: #169 freetoken
Even with increasing population, the election-to-election votes for any party are not guaranteed to go up election-to-election.
For example, both McCain and Romney got fewer popular votes than GWB got in 2004.
Trump is easy to disparage. Yet I think he’s more symptomatic than being an original cause.
Of course Trump is a symptom of larger problems. E.g., GOP control of Congress and well over half the statehouses.
I also think it true that a winning GOP candidate receiving more of the popular vote than any previous GOP candidate proves nothing.
re: #145 EPR-radar
The US population is growing at a sufficient rate that nearly every presidential election breaks this record for both parties. We have enough real problems that we shouldn’t get distracted by this statistical sleight of hand.
Reagan’s ‘84 victory is the modern gold standard for landslide elections, 535 EV, 58.8%
RT @AdamsFlaFan: Steve Bannon just got the power to run his white supremacist site from the White… https://t.co/HYkVo9aSrQ via @twttimes
— ggt (@geegeetee) June 1, 2017
School, what about the current Executive Branch of government?
— ggt (@geegeetee) June 1, 2017
OK, Florida can go.
re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White
There were so many things that should have ended his candidacy, but just to pick 3 of the most egregious - he mocked a disabled man’s disability; he mocked the heroism of a man who gave 5 years of his life in hell for America; he bragged to a near-stranger about committing sexual assault with impunity.
It is not possible that these people didn’t see this. They voted for him anyway. How do you appeal to someone who would do that, in a way that wouldn’t cost you your own soul?
You don’t. You (as Decatur Deb says above) appeal to the low-info duffers who can’t be arsed to vote (or are otherwise deluded into thinking it won’t make a difference).
To be clear, though, I don’t disagree with your assessment of the American electorate. In especially cynical moments, I can’t help but wonder if, had HRC been 25 years younger, looked like Sophie Gregoire-Trudeau, and spoken with a sexy voice, would she have won in a relative landslide after all? Would she have picked up a few thousand “durr hurr, I’m just voting for her ‘cuz she’s HAWT!” in the states where it mattered? Because yes, huge swathes of the electorate really are that fucking shallow and dumb -_-
Kentucky seems determined to return to the 1800’s as well.
A MODERN BLACK DEATH IN KENTUCKY’S MOUNTAINS
Part of what doomed Hillary Clinton was her last name. It’s just non stop red meat for wingnuts.
re: #188 Interesting Times
You don’t. You (as Decatur Deb says above) appeal to the low-info duffers who can’t be arsed to vote (or are otherwise deluded into thinking it won’t make a difference).
To be clear, though, I don’t disagree with your assessment of the American electorate. In especially cynical moments, I can’t help but wonder if, had HRC been 25 years younger, looked like Sophie Gregoire-Trudeau, and spoken with a sexy voice, would she have won in a relative landslide after all? Would she have picked up a few thousand “durr hurr, I’m just voting for her ‘cuz she’s HAWT!” in the states where it mattered? Because yes, huge swathes of the electorate really are that fucking shallow and dumb -_-
If Hillary looked like a Fox News Barbie Doll, she would have won.
One good thought.
It is obvious even though he never watches fake news ;) he is getting a lot of negative coverage, definitely going to play on his mind.
Is it going to be like the Comey firing and he felt that everyone would be complementing him on being decisive and following up on a campaign promise. Instead virtually the whole planet (except for some of his base) are excoriating him. Even big business is generally against it.
JUST IN: Disney CEO Bob Iger resigns from Trump advisory council “as a matter of principle” due to president’s climate agreement withdrawal.
— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) June 1, 2017
re: #192 451_Montag
Negative coverage means IT’S TIME FOR ANOTHER RALLY!
re: #193 Skip Intro
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This is the perfect out of being tied to this embarrassment of an administration.
re: #194 Skip Intro
Negative coverage means IT’S TIME FOR ANOTHER RALLY!
Would that be a bother rally where million, no billions are trying to get in but liberal fire Marshall’s won’t let anyone else in? The one where the cameras are welding in place to focus on his huge rippled face, but the cell footage shows tumbleweeds bowing through the bleachers?
Can’t wait.
re: #4 goddamnedfrank
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Just today? Trump has done so much that distinguishes himself from what a President Hillary Clinton would do (Muslim ban, Supreme Court pick, AHCA, budget).
re: #146 HappyWarrior
Never liked Trump ever. Obnoxious self promoting boob.
Back in the late 80s when I was a teenager, BLOTUS was on - I think - Larry King. I remember being completely turned off by him, that he was just a total asshole. I turned to my grandmother and asked “Who is he, Grandma?” She replied “Just another loud-mouthed Yankee.”
I’m proud that my home state (Washington) is in on this:
Washington, California, New York band together to form climate alliance
Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor Cancels West Coast Tour After a Fox News Report Spurs Death Threats
Princeton University professor of African-American studies, Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor, was scheduled to speak at Town Hall Seattle this evening about her latest book, From #BlackLivesMatter to Black Liberation.
But on Sunday, Fox News aired a brief clip of her 20-minute-long commencement speech to Hampshire College’s graduating class of 2017, during which she said what anyone with two eyes, a pulse, and more than three chapter books on their shelf would say about the President of the United States, namely that he’s a “racist, sexist, megalomaniac.” The media arm of the Republican party showed the clip with the headline: “Anti-POTUS Tirade: Princeton Prof Slams Pres During Speech.”
Then, according to a statement Taylor’s publishers released on Facebook, like cowards, a number of Fox News viewers felt compelled to send racist, sexist, megalomaniacal messages to Taylor from the relative safety of their own computers.
“Since last Friday, I have received more than 50 hate-filled and threatening emails. Some of these emails have contained specific threats of violence, including murder,” she writes. “Shortly after the Fox story and video were published, my work email was inundated with vile and violent statements. I have been repeatedly called ‘n*****,’ ‘bitch,’ ‘****,’ ‘dyke,’ ‘she-male,’ and ‘coon’ — a clear reminder that racial violence is closely aligned with gender and sexual violence. I have been threatened with lynching and having the bullet from a .44 Magnum put in my head.”
This is all Sanders and Steins fault. I don’t think they thought he could win so they decided to have their 5 minutes of fame, get the interviews in the Sunday shows, be regarded as movers and shakers in a no risk environment. Play the contrarians and say what they felt.
Except the environment wasn’t no risk. Exactly the opposite.
Hubris
re: #203 451_Montag
This is all Sanders and Steins fault. I don’t think they thought he could win so they decided to have their 5 minutes of fame, get the interviews in the Sunday shows, be regarded as movers and shakers in a no risk environment. Play the contrarians and say what they felt.
Except the environment wasn’t no risk. Exactly the opposite.
Hubris
Stein knew she couldn’t win but didn’t care. Sanders I think was a victim of his own success. I liked him a lot better before the Winter. He showed himself interestingly enough as he grew more successful to be the typical politician that while I did’t support him, I thought he was not.
re: #204 Birth Control Works
GUN RIGHTS GROUP TAKES A SHOT AT ELIZABETH WARREN — OVER EFFORT TO MAKE HEARING AIDS CHEAPER
Yeah good luck with that in Massachusetts assholes.
We need to start thinking of who the Democratic Party is going float out there in 20, someone besides Liz Warren. I’m watching Sen. Al Franken on Tweety. Yes I would…
re: #207 Dave In Austin
We need to start thinking of who the Democratic Party is going float out there in 20, someone besides Liz Warren. I’m watching Sen. Al Franken on Tweety. Yes I would…
I’ve thought about that more and more since he established himself as a respectable politician. I would totally vote for him.
I eagerly await the moment when the defeatism gets to the point where we’re simply told to commit mass suicide because everything is allegedly that hopeless.
re: #207 Dave In Austin
We need to start thinking of who the Democratic Party is going float out there in 20, someone besides Liz Warren. I’m watching Sen. Al Franken on Tweety. Yes I would…
I like Franken. Thought I had heard he had ruled out running. Honestly, I don’t know yet. What I want to look for is Senators/Governors and individuals in general who prove themselves to be the anti-Trump. I really would prefer someone with elected experience but it may take something unconventional to break Trump.
re: #210 SteelPH
I eagerly await the moment when the defeatism gets to the point where we’re simply told to commit mass suicide because everything is apparently that hopeless.
There are some nights where I think we’re about 30 minutes from that.
(Hang in there. That’s what I’m doing my best to do.)
14 hours in on our trip to Charlotte NC. 2 more to go. Smoky mountains beautiful today. Wet but beautiful.
re: #210 SteelPH
I eagerly await the moment when the defeatism gets to the point where we’re simply told to commit mass suicide because everything is apparently that hopeless.
Paging Jim Jones… Jim Jones, you’re needed in Washington D.C….
You know, I want to like Booker but he’s had a couple moments that have frustrated me. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t back him as the nominee of course.
re: #213 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Oh no, I’m fine. I’m just finding the rampant defeatism more than a little irritating.
re: #218 SteelPH
Oh no, I’m fine. I’m just finding the rampant defeatism more than a little irritating.
You’re not alone there. Things are bad. They’re getting worse. IT ISN’T OVER YET.
re: #218 SteelPH
Oh no, I’m fine. I’m just finding the rampant defeatism more than a little irritating.
I actually feel pretty determined myself. Working on local campaigns and my job has done a lot of wonders.
re: #217 HappyWarrior
You know, I want to like Booker but he’s had a couple moments that have frustrated me. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t back him as the nominee of course.
Not until he rejects the Kushners
re: #211 HappyWarrior
I like Franken. Thought I had heard he had ruled out running. Honestly, I don’t know yet. What I want to look for is Senators/Governors and individuals in general who prove themselves to be the anti-Trump. I really would prefer someone with elected experience but it may take something unconventional to break Trump.
Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon. He’s a hard worker, and one of the first to be loud against Trump.
re: #221 Dave In Austin
Not until he rejects the Kushners
Yes, he does need to do that and I suspect that will be an issue against him as it should. It’s frustrating because I really do like how he stood upt to Sessions.
re: #9 Henny Penny
I didn’t know what covfefe was, now I do. Well sorta. I wish I had that five minutes of mu life back.
well, you reap what you sow…
choke on it.
re: #222 wrenchwench
Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon. He’s a hard worker, and one of the first to be loud against Trump.
That’s an interesting choice. I don’t know if he has aspirations or not but I like him.
I’d say Chelsea but she should be a senator or governor first.
re: #218 SteelPH
Oh no, I’m fine. I’m just finding the rampant defeatism more than a little irritating.
I go for runs, check out earlier than I might otherwise, try and focus on the shit I need to do. And remind myself that breaks are okay.
And I’m trying to do things like crafting more. I’m calling it the CL approach.
re: #226 Amory Blaine
I’d say Chelsea but she should be a senator or governor first.
There’s not going to be another Clinton for a while. We may like the Clintons but a lot of people on the left are tried of them. I do like her though and do want her to consider office.
re: #226 Amory Blaine
I’d say Chelsea but she should be a senator or governor first.
I only say no because she would be tarred and feathered with both Clinton brushes - emails, BENGHAZI!!!!, Monica - as well as with the whole “dynasty” bullshit.
re: #208 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I’ve thought about that more and more since he established himself as a respectable politician. I would totally vote for him.
Xavier Becerra out of California is someone to watch. As California AG, he’s got some real power behind him for the next few years. He’s a good speaker, he’s good on all the right issues, and I’m given to understand he’s a really nice guy, too.
I’d vote for him in a heartbeat in ‘20 or later (he’s got some time).
Franken’s getting old for the game. No matter how much we like any candidate, I’m just intrinsically leery of putting anyone older than their early 60s into such a stressful position. But Amy Klobuchar? Ya, you betcha. Or the Castro brothers.
I started a new routine today.
Wake up at 7:30, do my hour of working out, have breakfast, and then get off to work. And then when I got home today, I did a short walk and dip in the pool.
A Hispanic nominee could be really really interesting. I hope Julian considers a run against Abbott since his brother ceded the Senate nomination to Beto O’Rourke who is great in his own right.
re: #227 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I go for runs, check out earlier than I might otherwise, try and focus on the shit I need to do. And remind myself that breaks are okay.
Inquiring minds wanna know: did you get to open your birthday present early? Or did mr. klys make you wait? And what model of GPS gadget did you are have going to will be gotten?
re: #232 HappyWarrior
A Hispanic nominee could be really really interesting. I hope Julian considers a run against Abbott since his brother ceded the Senate election to Belo O’Rourke who is great in his own right.
“Beto”. ;0)
re: #233 ipsos
Inquiring minds wanna know: did you get to open your birthday present early? Or did mr. klys make you wait? And what model of GPS gadget did you are have going to will be gotten?
HE PUT IT IN THE CLOSET. I have to wait. It is the epitome of self control that I am waiting given that I ordered the damn thing.
(REI had the Garmin Forerunner 735XT for 30% off with the anniversary sale, and I’ll get an additional 5% back as a cardholder, so …that was a really damn good deal for it. And it will give me lots of data to play with and room to grow.)
Charles P. Pierce pretty much says it all:
On Thursday, in a speech that was such a towering pile of complete horseshit that it may well reach the moon, President* Donald Trump told the country that the rest of the world is now the craftiest welfare queen of them all…The transformation of the American government into a Breitbart comments thread is complete…
This was a speech written by a fool, to be delivered by a fool, with the presumption that a great percentage of its target audience is made up of fools…
The nonsense he spewed on Thursday doesn’t matter, either, even if it continues to gull the suckers out in the sticks. The oceans are not listening to him.
The sorcerer that lives in my GPS is either drunk or in open rebellion.
And too bad about Ted Lieu…. I like his fire.
re: #236 klys (maker of Silmarils)
We’re getting an REI retail store within shouting distance of casa ipsos soon. Can’t hardly wait! I’m going to get fitter if it kills me.
re: #239 Dave In Austin
Ant too bad about Ted Lieu…. I like his fire.
He does need to run when DiFi retires. Ted and Kamala could become an easy favorite for favorite Senate pairs if they did it. I like him a lot too.
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re: #241 HappyWarrior
He does need to run when DiFi retires. Ted and Kamala could become an easy favorite for favorite Senate pairs if they did it. I like him a lot too.
It would take a lot to overcome the sublime Franken/Klobuchar Senate pairing. But yeah, that could do it. We need more Lieus with fewer fucks to give.
re: #240 ipsos
We’re getting an REI retail store within shouting distance of casa ipsos soon. Can’t hardly wait! I’m going to get fitter if it kills me.
a) Become a member.
b) I find the credit card worth it.
re: #227 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I go for runs, check out earlier than I might otherwise, try and focus on the shit I need to do. And remind myself that breaks are okay.
And I’m trying to do things like crafting more. I’m calling it the CL approach.
Photoshop!
re: #236 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Nice choice with the Garmin, BTW. Frost blue or black/gray? :)
re: #243 ipsos
It would take a lot to overcome the sublime Franken/Klobuchar Senate pairing. But yeah, that could do it. We need more Lieus with fewer fucks to give.
That’s a great pair too. Plus Amy’s Slovenian-American. It would take away the Melania stench :) my peeps have gotten.
re: #246 ipsos
Nice choice with the Garmin, BTW. Frost blue or black/gray? :)
Black/gray. Coordinates better with my mish-mash of running clothes and gear. (Haha.)
I did get to open the box to verify they sent the right color, at least.
I like my Senators but Warner really isn’t a risk taker. He plays it saef often though he’s been great as the ranking Intel Dem.
re: #237 BeachDem
Charles P. Pierce pretty much says it all:
On Thursday, in a speech that was such a towering pile of complete horseshit that it may well reach the moon, President* Donald Trump told the country that the rest of the world is now the craftiest welfare queen of them all…The transformation of the American government into a Breitbart comments thread is complete…
This was a speech written by a fool, to be delivered by a fool, with the presumption that a great percentage of its target audience is made up of fools…
The nonsense he spewed on Thursday doesn’t matter, either, even if it continues to gull the suckers out in the sticks. The oceans are not listening to him.
Drier prose, but a fact check.
Excellent @GlennKesslerWP @myhlee fact-check of Trump’s highly dishonest Paris speech: https://t.co/RkQfxvoxKX
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) June 2, 2017
re: #247 HappyWarrior
That’s a great pair too. Plus Amy’s Slovenian-American. It would take away the Melania stench :) my peeps have gotten.
Americans would have to find out what Slovenia is before they would know to blame Melania for it.
I think you’re safe.
//
Drives me crazy about the Paris Accord thing being all something so new when it comes to climate change.
I’ve been a farmer almost all of my life ( and I’ll be 65 this month).
So many folks absolutely DO NOT KNOW about acid rain back in the late 1960s/early1970s.
It was horrible and it was very real.
And now it’s going to come back again bigly.
re: #251 ipsos
Americans would have to find out what Slovenia is before they would know to blame Melania for it.
I think you’re safe.
//
The funny thing is I’m part Slovak as well.
Conservatives are celebrating Kathy Griffin getting fired (deservingly so) by CNN, but just a few months ago they were screaming “censorship” when Milo Yiannopoulis was dropped by Simon & Schuster.
re: #253 HappyWarrior
The funny thing is I’m part Slovak as well.
Do you confuse yourself when you think about it? :)
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re: #195 Birth Control Works
NEARLY HALF OF DONALD TRUMP’S TWITTER FOLLOWERS ARE FAKE ACCOUNTS AND BOTS
How does that compare to other high profile accounts?
re: #36 Jack Burton
So Climate Change was the line Elon? Not racism, fascism, or any of the reality-denial that has gone on so far? Were you OK with all of those things?
TBH, Musk (along with other SV business leaders that might be considered liberal, such as Apple’s Tim Cook and Disney’s Bob Igor) have been on Trump’s “advisory” boards most likely to serve as voices of reason and to not cede any chance to influence Trump to the RWNJ businessfolks.
At this point, Trump has shown he takes no advice for those “advisory” boards, so there’s really no reason for any of them to stay on those boards.
re: #219 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
You’re not alone there. Things are bad. They’re getting worse. IT ISN’T OVER YET.
Just be prepared. It’s going to be a long, hot summer of hearings, leaks, committee meetings, and fake news. As pointed out earlier, the wheels of justice move very slow. In the investigation of a political administration, the wheels are going to turn very slowly. There’s only one chance to get an impeachment or criminal trial(s) so every bit of evidence will have to be rock solid and carefully prepared. There has to be no room for any mistakes.
This whole circus will last to at least Labor Day or maybe longer. Do not despair , IT WILL HAPPEN. No matter what the Repuglicans do, the public will demand results. Plus, it’s a lot nicer to be out in the streets in the summer than winter.
So, stock up on popcorn and your favorite adult beverages, buckle in, and get prepared for a wild ride.
re: #255 ipsos
Do you confuse yourself when you think about it? :)
Hahhahaha, nah. It does help that I got more exposure to the Slovakian food since it’s my grandmother that is Slovakian and my grandfather that was Slovene.
I clearly need to get myself up to date on what’s going on with the state politics. Research required before I can say if this is good/bad/what.
BREAKING: the California State Senate has passed single payer healthcare. #SB562
— DL Decision Desk (@DLDecisionDesk) June 2, 2017
re: #256 klys (maker of Silmarils)
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well, with GOP in total control of things… what else is on their agenda?
revoking the franchise for women?
jim crow re-instituted?
southern baptists made the official denomination of the country?
indentured servitude?
class strata formalized?
outlawing the Democratic Party because of treason?
re: #250 Stanley Sea
The problem is, it’s become very clear that lies and dishonesty simply don’t matter to the president or his supporters, not one bit. All the fact-checking in the world won’t touch a single phony hair on Donald Trump’s orange melon.
re: #263 klys (maker of Silmarils)
They have no clue as to where to get the money. 15% state income tax maybe?
re: #266 Charles Johnson
The problem is, it’s become very clear that lies and dishonesty simply don’t matter to the president or his supporters, not one bit. All the fact-checking in the world won’t touch a single phony hair on Donald Trump’s orange melon.
I’d even say and I’m not mad that they called him out on his lies but calling him out on his lies encourages his cultists.
re: #266 Charles Johnson
Apparently our society is now post-truth, post-factual.
re: #195 Birth Control Works
NEARLY HALF OF DONALD TRUMP’S TWITTER FOLLOWERS ARE FAKE ACCOUNTS AND BOTS
Goes along with over half of the voters for Trump that are fake Americans.
re: #270 freetoken
Apparently our society is now post-truth, post-factual.
Alternative facts, alternative reality.
re: #260 Cheechako
Just be prepared. It’s going to be a long, hot summer of hearings, leaks, committee meetings, and fake news. As pointed out earlier, the wheels of justice move very slow. In the investigation of a political administration, the wheels are going to turn very slowly. There’s only one chance to get an impeachment or criminal trial(s) so every bit of evidence will have to be rock solid and carefully prepared. There has to be no room for any mistakes.
This whole circus will last to at least Labor Day or maybe longer. Do not despair , IT WILL HAPPEN. No matter what the Repuglicans do, the public will demand results. Plus, it’s a lot nicer to be out in the streets in the summer than winter.
So, stock up on popcorn and your favorite adult beverages, buckle in, and get prepared for a wild ride.
Be prepared to hit the streets to make it stick.
re: #271 ObserverArt
Goes along with over half of the voters for Trump that are fake Americans.
I don’t think they’re fake Americans but I think they’re Idiot-Americans.
re: #207 Dave In Austin
We need to start thinking of who the Democratic Party is going float out there in 20, someone besides Liz Warren. I’m watching Sen. Al Franken on Tweety. Yes I would…
Too old. There has to be someone under 60 out there, doesn’t there?
re: #264 ipsos
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re: #275 Skip Intro
Too old. There has to be someone under 60 out there, doesn’t there?
Okay, okay here’s something out of left field. Let’s say my guy Perriello gets nominated and wins and is doing a good job. But honestly I’d want him to work on completing his job as Va’s governor.
re: #275 Skip Intro
Too old. There has to be someone under 60 out there, doesn’t there?
Cory Booker, but he’s on my shitlist after he defended Kushner.
re: #268 Unshaken Defiance
They have no clue as to where to get the money. 15% state income tax maybe?
I haven’t even read the bill. On the one hand, not being tied to a job for health insurance would be a HUGE boon for us. On the other hand, I’m more interested in universal coverage; if this accomplishes that, great, but I don’t know what the text says so I can’t say if it does.
Need to just set aside some time and do some digging.
re: #275 Skip Intro
Too old. There has to be someone under 60 out there, doesn’t there?
Well, yeah… I could sooo vote for this lady.
Incidentally, my father grew up in California, near Bakersfield. He and his family were actual Joad-style “Okie” migrants who went there in the early 30s.
They were really from Arkansas, as were many depression-era refugees, but all downtrodden migrants were “okies” in those days.
re: #282 Unshaken Defiance
Well, yeah… I could sooo vote for this lady.
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re: #31 Decatur Deb
If a fig leaf falls in the forest, and no one sees it…..
Exactly. Why was he part of any Trump council in the first place?
re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth
Trump thinks he can overcome basic economics and roll back the clock to some godforsaken time when things were “better.”
Energy providers are shifting away from coal at a record clip, and our local utility is shutting down two of its biggest coal fired plants, despite spending more than $1 billion over the past few years upgrading and making those facilities more efficient. PSEG admits they made a bad bet. They thought that coal would rebound and natgas prices would rise.
Natgas continues to be preferred because of raw cost, transport cost, storage cost, and ability to burn cleaner than coal. Only an ignorant dumbass would think that coal is ever going to come back. Trump’s position is akin to someone demanding we bring back whale oil and carriage makers.
re: #37 Ace-o-aces
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Or those who are upset can resist and work towards kicking out this administration. Trump is not invincible.
Night Lizard. It has come down to Mad max Fury Road.. See you in the A.M.
re: #215 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Paging Jim Jones… Jim Jones, you’re needed in Washington D.C….
I know this is a popular joke, but:
Everybody forgets that loyal armed followers were involving in coercing suicide by the rest. Furthermore, a lot of those people in Guyana were kids, and others were elderly dependents who had a choice to die of exposure, a bullet, or poison. And all of this happened right after Jones had created an international incident by assassinating a US politician, setting up the entire group for a retaliatory act from the Guyanese or US military.
All of this to say, the idea of total passivity, even by highly-manipulated people, in the face of death is vastly overstated, and has become a kind of folkloric touchstone that allows “normal” people to feel emotional distance from the victims. Mass suicides are more complicated—and generally sadder—than we want to imagine.
re: #286 De Kolta Chair
That’s not real, right?
re: #289 Patricia Kayden
Or those who are upset can resist and work towards kicking out this administration. Trump is not invincible.
He is weak at heart and vulnerable given the right leverage.
re: #242 Charles Johnson
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re: #287 lawhawk
Trump thinks he can overcome basic economics and roll back the clock to some godforsaken time when things were “better.”
Energy providers are shifting away from coal at a record clip, and our local utility is shutting down two of its biggest coal fired plants, despite spending more than $1 billion over the past few years upgrading and making those facilities more efficient. PSEG admits they made a bad bet. They thought that coal would rebound and natgas prices would rise.
Natgas continues to be preferred because of raw cost, transport cost, storage cost, and ability to burn cleaner than coal. Only an ignorant dumbass would think that coal is ever going to come back. Trump’s position is akin to someone demanding we bring back whale oil and carriage makers.
The thing is economies constantly transition. I’ve talked about my dad’s one grandfather before. When he was a young man in the 1890’s, he was a horse carriage driver. BY the time he retired in the 40’s, he was an elevator operator in a skyscraper. I feel bad for the miners who have lost the only job they’ve ever known but it’s not unreasonable to tell them that tehy have to transition like other people have before them.
re: #276 klys (maker of Silmarils)
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I mean yeah does it suck to lose your job. Of course it does but I don’t recall this much pity for people who had grown up typing on typewriters when computers become mainstreamed. Economies transition. The miners aren’t unique. And let me say as a miner’s great grandson (my mom’s granddads were both miners), I’m glad mining has declined. It’s terrible. It’s bad for the environment, it’s bad for the miners. The only thing good it does is fake nostagia.
re: #108 Blind Frog Belly White
Today, in “The Enemy Of My Enemy May Be An Asshole”
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“Look what you made me do!”
Why should Democrats restore the judicial filibuster when they take control of the Senate? There is reason for Democrats to be “honorable” when they’re up against Republicans.
Eric Garcetti? Young, charismatic. But he needs to broaden his resume some.
re: #274 HappyWarrior
I don’t think they’re fake Americans but I think they’re Idiot-Americans.
Sorry. I’m not buying that today.
When they start to back Russia/Putin because he is helping Trump and allow Trump to shit all over our long-standing allies, they are not Americans to me, they are people that live here and are a danger to this country for being idiots.
Not in a good mood. Besides, it’s just a comment, Part of the definition of fake is genuine. Part of the definition of genuine is free from hypocrisy or dishonesty; sincere.
re: #302 ObserverArt
Sorry. I’m not buying that today.
When they start to back Russia/Putin because he is helping Trump and allow Trump to shit all over our long-standing allies, they are not Americans to me, they are people that live here and are a danger to this country for being idiots.
Not in a good mood. Besides, it’s just a comment, Part of the definition of fake is genuine. Part of the definition of genuine is free from hypocrisy or dishonesty; sincere.
Okay, fair enough. I totally understand your point and agree.
re: #298 HappyWarrior
can echo that sentiment, now to find a way to transition the wilds of Appalachia into a tourism wonderland and have these people transition into something that won’t kill them to do.
re: #300 Timothy Watson
Eric Garcetti? Young, charismatic. But he needs to broaden his resume some.
Probably someone down the road. I like what I know about him though.
re: #305 piratedan
can echo that sentiment, now to find a way to transition the wilds of Appalachia into a tourism wonderland and have these people transition into something that won’t kill them to do.
Exactly. We don’t and I don’t think anyone thinks we should give up on these people but coal mining is done.
1/3 I see a lot of journalists are fact-checking Trump’s speech. Yes, it was full of outright lies. But haven’t we learned by now that …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 2, 2017
2/3 all the fact-checking in the world isn’t going to touch a single phony hair on Trump’s swollen orange melon? The GOP doesn’t care, …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 2, 2017
3/3 his supporters don’t care, and Trump is obviously just laughing at everyone while he lies without consequence.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 2, 2017
You just have to wonder what will get them to turn on Trump. It seems like nothing will.in fact, I think if more comes out about him and Russia, it will further teir devotion.
re: #296 HappyWarrior
The thing is economies constantly transition. I’ve talked about my dad’s one grandfather before. When he was a young man in the 1890’s, he was a horse carriage driver. BY the time he retired in the 40’s, he was an elevator operator in a skyscraper. I feel bad for the miners who have lost the only job they’ve ever known but it’s not unreasonable to tell them that they have to transition like other people have before them.
Absolutely. We have seen this but forget. Laughably, all the way back to Tulips.
I remember efforts to retrain our mfg workers. Aerospace when that crashed out. Auto, ditto. So many women could count on clerical work. Right now entire product based careers are going away as dentistry stopped casting metal and now prints or casts ceramic directly. How many made typewriters? Did typesetting? Or cut 4 color transparencies for print? Time to ditch the job for life ideal. Jobs often don’t last a lifetime anymore. Even code guys, how many languages have come up and been surpassed in the last 25 years?
Sure everyone has to eat, do laundry, etc. Nothing is stable.
Fact checking is so passe in our post-factual society.
— free token (@freetoken) June 2, 2017
Really. So much that I see online by the trumpers indicate to me that they don’t really care about “facts”.
My interview today on Paris #climate accord & the continued denial of #climatechange via @MSNBC @MitchellReports: https://t.co/cRYwR6kx4z
— Michael E. Mann (@MichaelEMann) June 1, 2017
re: #287 lawhawk
Trump’s position is akin to someone demanding we bring back whale oil and carriage makers.
BREAKING NEWS: Trump shutting down Netflix to help bring back Blockbuster jobs.
— Andy Young (@AndyYoungFilm) June 1, 2017
San Diego remains 100% committed to leading on environmental protection. Cities will lead the way. #ParisAgreement pic.twitter.com/3pccNjCMG7
— Kevin Faulconer (@Kevin_Faulconer) June 1, 2017
SANE REPUBLICAN! SANE REPUBLICAN! We must isolate and study him so we can create an antidote to whatever the others have.
re: #308 Charles Johnson
It is a category error to fact check a Trump speech. The correct response is to point and laugh at the lying orange sack of shit and his party of deplorabes. Good examples include Charlie Pierce, Driftglass and the RudePundit.
In Jan.,the Trump WH began secret effort 2 lift Russia sanctions. SD officials moved quickly to block them https://t.co/30rRrj9LjQ
— Michael Isikoff (@Isikoff) June 1, 2017
re: #182 Birth Control Works
Hillary lost because she is an independent woman.
Stands by her man, yet is still her own person.
Such females scare the shit out of people —especially women who are to wimpy to stand on their own and need the pedestal to survive.
and then there’s that whole she’s a woman thang…
re: #314 Ace-o-aces
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SANE REPUBLICAN! SANE REPUBLICAN! We must isolate and study him so we can create an antidote to whatever the others have.
DNA samples should be taken, since we’re talking about a critically endangered species here.
Full of gratitude tonight.
BTW, I recommend Marc Maron’s interview with Senator Franken today (Franken refers to WTF as the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday podcast).
re: #189 Birth Control Works
Kentucky seems determined to return to the 1800’s as well.
A MODERN BLACK DEATH IN KENTUCKY’S MOUNTAINS
It’s not modern at all.
A fiery @NYTopinion editorial calls Trump’s exit from the Paris climate agreement “disgraceful” https://t.co/0rIybG0dm5 pic.twitter.com/g2zO170Tzw
— John Schwartz (@jswatz) June 2, 2017
re: #314 Ace-o-aces
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SANE REPUBLICAN! SANE REPUBLICAN! We must isolate and study him so we can create an antidote to whatever the others have.
Secure tissue samples, brain scans, full background back to conception. Interview family, friends, enemies, passers-by, and the clerk where he buys gas. We need EVERYTHING!
re: #321 Charles Johnson
He is going to turn us into the bad guys on the world stage if he can. He will nuke somebody or order something just as drastic and foolish. Tick, tock the time is coming. Unless of course he is stopped first.
re: #323 Unshaken Defiance
He is going to turn us into the bad guys on the world stage if he can. He will nuke somebody or order something just as drastic and foolish. Tick, tock the time is coming. Unless of course he is stopped first.
Exactly. There are two alternatives. The Orange Menace gets impeached and removed from office, or the Orange Menace gets around to playing with the US nukes.
If Obama had done any one the things Trump has, you Clampets would’ve tipped the white House like a Volvo at a Molly Hatchet concert by now
— Jordan Doll (@RazorLou) June 1, 2017
BREAKING: TRUMP SHUTS DOWN iTUNES; ORDERS MASS PRODUCTION OF 8-TRACK TAPES.
re: #312 teleskiguy
“My interview today on Paris #climate accord & the continued denial of #climatechange via @MSNBC @MitchellReports: “
I remember that when Ken Cuccinelli was AG in Virginia, he went after Dr. Mann in an attempt to discredit him. The VA Supreme Ct. ruled against Cuccinelli and informed him that he didn’t have the authority to question Dr. Mann’s work. Cuccinelli was abusing his political power to go after Dr. Mann because Cuccinelli is a climate change denialist. I also recall the Competitive Enterprise Institute and National Review accused Dr. Mann of manipulating climate data. Dr. Mann sued them. CEI and National Review have tried several times to get the case dismissed, but all courts have thus far rejected their efforts. They deliberately attacked Dr. Mann and tried to damage his professional reputation, and I’m glad he’s fighting back.
re: #324 EPR-radar
Best thing now would be millions of us on the streets . Raise the roof. Make demands. Anti Vietnam level as amplified by modern media.
re: #316 Stanley Sea
So he gave them their houses back instead….for now. He’ll go for lifting the sanctions again I’m sure.
Funny how a bunch of people who really like Atlas Shrugs currently a government that collaborates with outdated existing industries to suppress innovation and strip capital from people with new inventions.
The lefties who claim we’re wasting time investigating Russia would be crying bloody murder if Bernie’d been the Dem nominee Putin screwed.
— Damion Schubert (@ZenOfDesign) June 2, 2017
My theory is that they want to paper over the fact that THEY were the ones duped by Assange and Russia’s fake news squads.
— Damion Schubert (@ZenOfDesign) June 2, 2017
re: #331 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus
Funny how a bunch of people who really like Atlas Shrugs currently a government that collaborates with outdated existing industries to suppress innovation and strip capital from people with new inventions.
Atlas Shrugged lost me instantly and completely the moment Dagney Taggart suggested building a railroad from the mine to the valley in Galt’s Gulch. (And who was working that mine, anyway?) People who can believe the book aren’t troubled by inconvenient things like facts. Or logic. Or reasoning.
ETA: And I was seventeen when I read it.
1/3 My rage over what Trump did today is so huge it scares me. There have been a lot of terrible moments since this narcissistic …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 2, 2017
2/3 sociopath was elected, but this may have been the worst. How does the United States ever recover from something like this? He’s …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 2, 2017
3/3 taken a wrecking ball to everything good about this country, and there won’t be any quick fixes even if he’s removed from office.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 2, 2017
re: #333 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.
Given that Paul Ryan doesn’t see a contradiction in the lessons of the New Testament and “Atlas,” I suspect it’s another iteration of “what a text says depends on what the reader is capable of picking up, before you ever get to interpretation.”
re: #331 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus
“The power of the free market will see us through. Now let’s subsidize the fuck out of these industries that are experiencing a decrease in demand.”
re: #334 Charles Johnson
Well, Germany has done an excellent job of showing it is possible to fix things if we’re willing to do the hard work.* It won’t be fast, it won’t be easy, and our position on the world stage may never be the same as it was again, but the idea that it needs to be is rooted in American exceptionalism and I’m not sure that any one country needs to take the role for exactly the reasons we’re seeing at play here. I’d rather have a strong group of allies all pushing each other to be better.
* And because I’m sure someone will point it out, I am well aware that there was a war involved to get to the point where the work could start, and I intend to do what I can to see that we don’t need to get to that point.
re: #259 TedStriker
He won’t even listen to the Pope.
re: #334 Charles Johnson
It leaves us pondering the imponderable. Thinking the unthinkable. The abyss stares back at the United States.
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) June 2, 2017
re: #236 klys (maker of Silmarils)
HE PUT IT IN THE CLOSET. I have to wait. It is the epitome of self control that I am waiting given that I ordered the damn thing.
(REI had the Garmin Forerunner 735XT for 30% off with the anniversary sale, and I’ll get an additional 5% back as a cardholder, so …that was a really damn good deal for it. And it will give me lots of data to play with and room to grow.)
If it makes you feel any better…MrBWS just had me order a new metal detector for my birthday present.
Mostly so I can find the septic tank lid (I forget exactly where it is, but do remember the general area) so I can call the septic guy to pump it since we need to tie in a line to it from the hobbit house.
Ya reach an age where romantic gifts are just…..
re: #298 HappyWarrior
I mean yeah does it suck to lose your job. Of course it does but I don’t recall this much pity for people who had grown up typing on typewriters when computers become mainstreamed. Economies transition. The miners aren’t unique. And let me say as a miner’s great grandson (my mom’s granddads were both miners), I’m glad mining has declined. It’s terrible. It’s bad for the environment, it’s bad for the miners. The only thing good it does is fake nostagia.
It’s been pointed out that more jobs have been lost in retail in the last year than there were mining jobs at the very peak of employment. I don’t see Trump vowing to bring back brick-and-mortar stores.
Mining, like steelwork, or automaking, is one of those ‘manly’ jobs, of course, whereas a lot of retail workers are women. ‘Miners’ is really an emotional shortcut word that elicits the ideal of the hard working American white guy. Nobody thinks ‘Miner’ and imagines a woman*.
*Though lots of guys think ‘minor’ and imagine a woman….
re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth
If it makes you feel any better…MrBWS just had me order a new metal detector for my birthday present.
Mostly so I can find the septic tank lid (I forget exactly where it is, but do remember the general area) so I can call the septic guy to pump it since we need to tie in a line to it from the hobbit house.
Ya reach an age where romantic gifts are just…..
Well, I may have told him that this was the suggested idea. And I wanted this model. And there was a strong reason to buy it before the anniversary sale ended. It’s more the part where he’s making me wait. (Patience is a virtue which means not everyone has it and some of us just aspire to it.)
re: #341 Blind Frog Belly White
It’s been pointed out that more jobs have been lost in retail in the last year than there were mining jobs at the very peak of employment. I don’t see Trump vowing to bring back brick-and-mortar stores.
Mining, like steelwork, or automaking, is one of those ‘manly’ jobs, of course, whereas a lot of retail workers are women. ‘Miners’ is really an emotional shortcut word that elicits the ideal of the hard working American white guy. Nobody thinks ‘Miner’ and imagines a woman*.
*Though lots of guys think ‘minor’ and imagine a woman….
My industry (Jewelry from retail to refining) lost over half of it’s people, mfg capacity, some huge chunk of showroom space in just a handful of years. 100 year plus firms went down like dominoes. We already had no unions, few with medical fewer with retirement, many on commission.
re: #343 Unshaken Defiance
My industry (Jewelry from retail to refining) lost over half of it’s people, mfg capacity, some huge chunk of showroom space in just a handful of years. 100 year plus firms went down like dominoes. We already had no unions, few with medical fewer with retirement, many on commission.
Right, and Trump certainly didn’t say anything in his stump speeches about bringing back the jewelers.
No, ‘Miners’ and ‘bring back coal’ are intended to evoke a particular image and era, and ALL that went with it, especially the part about non-whites, non-straights, non-christians, and non-men knowing their place.
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In a dramatic announcement from the White House Rose Garden on Thursday, Donald J. Trump pronounced the planet Earth a “loser” and vowed to make a better deal with a new planet.
“Earth is a terrible, very bad planet,” he told the White House press corps. “It’s maybe the worst planet in the solar system, and it’s far from the biggest.”
Trump blasted former President Barack Obama for signing deals that committed the United States to remain on the planet Earth indefinitely. “Obama is almost as big a loser as Earth,” Trump said. “If Obama was a planet, guess what planet he’d be? That’s right: Earth.”
When asked which planet he would make a new deal with, Trump offered few specifics, saying only, “The solar system has millions of terrific planets, and they’re all better than Earth, which is a sick, failing loser.”
Trump’s remarks drew a strong response from one of the United States’ nato allies, Germany’s Angela Merkel. “I strongly support Donald Trump leaving the planet Earth,” she said.
re: #344 Blind Frog Belly White
Right, and Trump certainly didn’t say anything in his stump speeches about bringing back the jewelers.
No, ‘Miners’ and ‘bring back coal’ are intended to evoke a particular image and era, and ALL that went with it, especially the part about non-whites, non-straights, non-christians, and non-men knowing their place.
Trump has nothing for us jewelers. Jewelry of course is no special case, just a microcosm of the larger economy that happens to go back to revolutionary days and Paul Revere sterling. Interesting but not at all important.
Trump has nothing for the heart of innovation and fresh employment-small cap / small biz / local mfg. Jewelry in particular is irrelevant here, but the bigger picture tells the real story imo. We can’t top down growth.
New legal opinion from Justice Dept. says Trump administration doesn’t have to respond to oversight requests from congressional Democrats. pic.twitter.com/rInrfr0vXv
— Gregory Korte (@gregorykorte) June 2, 2017
Sessions continues to chip away at checks and balances.
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