Friday Jam: Todd Rundgren and Daryl Hall, “Chance for Us” (From Todd’s Great New Record)

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Todd Rundgren “Chance For Us ” feat Daryl Hall & Bobby Strickland [Official Video]

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• Veteran producer, pioneering performer and legendary songwriter Todd Rundgren returns with a brand new album featuring a stellar line-up of all-star guest performers!

• White Knight showcases Rundgren’s incredibly diverse range of styles from soulful art rock to ambient synth pop and includes performances from Rundgren’s equally diverse musical companions such as Trent Reznor, Donald Fagen (of Steely Dan), Joe Walsh (of The Eagles), Daryl Hall, Dam Funk, Joe Satriani, Robyn and more!

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:15:22pm

That’s some great neo-blue-eyed soul right there. As a 50-something wannabe rocker, it warms my heart to see the prior generation still kicking ass.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:16:19pm

Todd seems like a really really good guy.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:18:44pm

re: #1 Barefoot Grin

That’s some great neo-blue-eyed soul right there. As a 50-something wannabe rocker, it warms my heart to see the prior generation still kicking ass.

And apologies: I know labels aren’t good, but I couldn’t help myself since it involved Daryl.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:22:53pm

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:24:59pm

Continuing from downstairs:

re: #437 scottslemmons

DC had serious hits with Nolan’s Batman movies, and decided that was the way to have a hit comic book movie — dark colors, grimdark attitude, very little humor. That may work for Batman, but it’s less effective for a character who’s supposed to be sunny and optimistic, like Superman.

Well, the thing is that the Nolan films did for the Batman film franchise what its cultural predecessors The Dark Knight Returns and The Killing Joke did for the comics: It resurrected the character from his slide into the depths of campiness. The problem is that, like DC and Marvel leaned too heavily on the “dark and gritty” atmosphere those comics did and defined an entire “Age” of comics by them, DC’s working under the impression that what made the Nolan films successfully was people wanting to see “dark and gritty” films.

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dharmamark  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:26:09pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Before I even read it all, thank you. I’m about to get married to a woman with chronic medical issues. I’m glad to know we’re not alone in this.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:30:00pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:30:45pm

Finally stating the obvious: False, multiply debunked, conspiracy theories are LIES that vilify and endanger innocent people. It is amazing that so many “Christians” condemn themselves by refusing to recognize this simple truth. It is one of the most obvious proofs that the politicized evangelical movement is not only morally bankrupt, but utterly depraved.
Christianity Today:Christians, Repent (Yes, Repent) of Spreading Conspiracy Theories and Fake News—It’s Bearing False Witness

Try this instead: Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

Mentions Pizzagate and Seth Rich specifically, but I would broaden it to include creationism itself, since that superstition crucially depends on the existence of a centuries old global conspiracy of suppression among scientists.

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TedStriker  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:30:56pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

Continuing from downstairs:

Well, the thing is that the Nolan films did for the Batman film franchise what its cultural predecessors The Dark Knight Returns and The Killing Joke did for the comics: It resurrected the character from his slide into the depths of campiness. The problem is that, like DC and Marvel leaned too heavily on the “dark and gritty” atmosphere those comics did and defined an entire “Age” of comics by them, DC’s working under the impression that what made the Nolan films successfully was people wanting to see “dark and gritty” films.

Also from downstairs:

Hey, the best DC movie I’ve seen in a while is The Lego Batman Movie.

So many in-jokes…it’s funny as hell.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:35:15pm

America, 2017:

#1R - Darwin’s Theory of Evolution

My head hurts.

Just wait for it… several minutes into the video.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:37:01pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel

Incidentally, this may all seem obvious to us, but it is a very gutsy call for author Ed Stetzer, since it essentially targets his boss as well as many of the boss’s contributors.

Ed Stetzer holds the Billy Graham Distinguished Chair of Church, Mission, and Evangelism at Wheaton College, is Executive Director of the Billy Graham Center for Evangelism, and publishes church leadership resources through Mission Group.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:39:14pm

re: #11 Shiplord Kirel

Incidentally, this may all seem obvious to us, but it is a very gutsy call for author Ed Stetzer, since it essentially targets his boss as well as many of the boss’s contributors.

It is. It’s nice to see. There’s a lot about Evangelical Christianity I don’t like but I appreciate someone who is willing to call out the problems within the community.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:39:26pm
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As someone on my second IUD, those fuckers hurt going in. A lot. And with the threats to contraception, there may be women choosing to get them where they might not have otherwise, because other methods would have worked just as well (but are shorter term).

And if I’m going through a hella painful procedure because of GOP idiocy? Fuck you, Paul Ryan.

(But I did laugh at it.)

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:39:38pm

The funny thing about the Batman films is that the Tim Burton films from the 80s were actually the Nolan films of their day, dark and gritty when the last time most people had seen Batman was the Adam West series from the 60s. A Joker that killed people, Gotham depicted as a hive of scum and villainy, Bruce Wayne as a reclusive loner who depicted himself as an eccentric playboy. We see them as tame compared to today, but back then that was a major shock to people who’d grown up seeing Batman on TV running down the street with a smoking bomb.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:40:24pm

re: #14 Targetpractice

The funny thing about the Batman films is that the Tim Burton films from the 80s were actually the Nolan films of their day, dark and gritty when the last time most people had seen Batman was the Adam West series from the 60s. A Joker that killed people, Gotham depicted as a hive of scum and villainy, Bruce Wayne as a reclusive loner who depicted himself as an eccentric playboy. We see them as tame compared to today, but back then that was a major shock to people who’d grown up seeing Batman on TV running down the street with a smoking bomb.

I won’t lie, Adam West is still my favorite Batman.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:41:10pm

re: #15 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I won’t lie, Adam West is still my favorite Batman.

Michael Keaton for me. Nicholson my favorite Joker.

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bratwurst  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:41:23pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Todd seems like a really really good guy.

I think Todd is one of these people who is impossibly gifted in one area (namely all aspects of music) and nearly clueless when it comes to just about everything else.

He does not have the reputation of being a really good guy in the concert business. They readily put up with him when his name on the marquee automatically sold 1500+ tickets, but now that is no longer the case he has problems playing in some parts of the country.

Just for context, I have been a fan for more than 30 years & seen him about 25 times…I also know a couple of people involved in concert promotion.

I bought & am enjoying the new album, but I am passing on his tour. The setlist (which is totally static) is 90% made up of his very hit and miss 21st century output. Later this summer he is playing on a package tour with the bogus version of Yes (that doesn’t include Jon Anderson). I shudder to imagine what prog rock fans are going to make of his very non-prog rock set.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:41:36pm

re: #15 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I won’t lie, Adam West is still my favorite Batman.

I never knew Adam West as the Batman. Instead, I am acquainted with Adam West by his voluminous cameo appearances in … just about everything else, it seems. He is an incredibly good sport about his most famous role, having no problems with making fun of himself.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:42:00pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Michael Keaton for me. Nicholson my favorite Joker.

You can get the entire 1960s series on Blu-ray now and I’m thinking I’m going to ask for it for Christmas.

I am clearly not DC’s target audience with the whole grim-dark thing.

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BeachDem  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:42:39pm

Unfortunate name—pretty thin resume:

Donald Trump plans to nominate Richard Spencer, who has worked as a financial industry executive, to be Secretary of the Navy, the White House said on Friday.

rawstory.com

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:42:45pm

re: #17 bratwurst

I think Todd is one of these people who is impossibly gifted in one area (namely all aspects of music) and nearly clueless when it comes to just about everything else.

He does not have the reputation of being a really good guy in the concert business. They readily put up with him when his name on the marquee automatically sold 1500+ tickets, but now that is no longer the case he has problems playing in some parts of the country.

Just for context, I have been a fan for more than 30 years & seen him about 25 times…I also know a couple of people involved in concert promotion.

I bought & am enjoying the new album, but I am passing on his tour. The setlist (which is totally static) is 90% made up of his very hit and miss 21st century output. Later this summer he is playing on a package tour with the bogus version of Yes (that doesn’t include Jon Anderson). I shudder to imagine what prog rock fans are going to make of his very non-prog rock set.

I honestly dislike huge venues anyhow. I much much prefer smaller venues.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:43:12pm

re: #14 Targetpractice

This scene gave me nightmares. Then again, what was my dad thinking taking his seven-year-old to Tim Burton’s Batman?!

Batman (2/5) Movie CLIP - A Hot Time in Old Town (1989) HD

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:43:17pm

Keepin’ it simple in Salt Lake:

(Daughter is visiting there today and sent this along)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:43:29pm

re: #20 BeachDem

Unfortunate name—pretty thin resume:

Donald Trump plans to nominate Richard Spencer, who has worked as a financial industry executive, to be Secretary of the Navy, the White House said on Friday.

rawstory.com

Whie this guy is unqualified, let’s not claim he’s that other Richard Spencer. He’s probably bad in his own right.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:43:30pm

re: #18 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I never knew Adam West as the Batman. Instead, I am acquainted with Adam West by his voluminous cameo appearances in … just about everything else, it seems. He is an incredibly good sport about his most famous role, having no problems with making fun of himself.

Reruns (obviously) were still airing when I was like 3-4 and my mom would tape them for me to watch after preschool. I have very fond memories of it. Have the movie on DVD for when I need a fix these days, but I still want the series back.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:44:47pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

This scene gave me nightmares. Then again, what was my dad thinking taking his seven-year-old to Tim Burton’s Batman?!

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I can remember my Dad saying “How do you like me NOW Batman?” I have to say while I liked the Ledger version of the Joker, I like Jack’s better.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:44:51pm

re: #25 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Reruns (obviously) were still airing when I was like 3-4 and my mom would tape them for me to watch after preschool. I have very fond memories of it. Have the movie on DVD for when I need a fix these days, but I still want the series back.

The ones I remember him most are his guest stars on Family Guy (where he appeared as himself) and Fairly OddParents (where he appeared as the obviously named Catman). As I said, he has no problems parodying himself, and he’s quite funny, to boot.

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EPR-radar  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:44:54pm

re: #19 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You can get the entire 1960s series on Blu-ray now and I’m thinking I’m going to ask for it for Christmas.

I am clearly not DC’s target audience with the whole grim-dark thing.

If a cracking good story happens to be grim-dark, I’ll deal, but grim-dark by itself isn’t enough.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:45:23pm

re: #27 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The ones I remember him most are his guest stars on Family Guy (where he appeared as himself) and Fairly OddParents (where he appeared as the obviously named Catman). As I said, he has no problems parodying himself, and he’s quite funny, to boot.

I love how absurd he is on Family Guy.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:45:55pm

The Dark Knight was a fucked up film.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:46:05pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

I love how absurd he is on Family Guy.

“Hello, friends, I’m Adam West.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:46:23pm

re: #27 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The ones I remember him most are his guest stars on Family Guy (where he appeared as himself) and Fairly OddParents (where he appeared as the obviously named Catman). As I said, he has no problems parodying himself, and he’s quite funny, to boot.

From the Batman movie:

Somedays you just can’t get rid of a bomb!

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BeachDem  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:46:37pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Whie this guy is unqualified, let’s not claim he’s that other Richard Spencer. He’s probably bad in his own right.

That’s what I meant by unfortunate name…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:47:25pm

re: #31 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“Hello, friends, I’m Adam West.”

Doctor Hartman: Mayor West, you have Lymphoma.
Mayor West: Oh My.
Doctor Hartman: Probably from rolling around in that Toxic waste. What in God’s name were you trying to prove?
Mayor West: I was trying to gain super powers.
Doctor Hartman: Well that’s just silly.
Mayor West: Silly yes … Idiotic … yes.!

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:47:33pm

Surfers out there, pour one out for dude.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:47:45pm

re: #33 BeachDem

That’s what I meant by unfortunate name…

No, I know what oyu meant.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:48:01pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

My ski jacket is an O’Neill jacket.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:48:29pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

Surfers out there, pour one out for dude.

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I have a couple O’Neill shirts and my cousin’s boy is a surfer. My brother, his wife, and daughter all wear wetsuits in Tahoe too.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:48:53pm

Carried over from the last thread:

re: #343 MsJ

OFFS. And DWS seriously did stupid shit like that… Calling the opposing counsel? Gah.

It is fairly easy to spoof a caller ID number. (I get calls from telemarketers all the time with alleged local telephone numbers. Makes it pretty easy to ignore them since I live in a town with just over 100 people.)

Just because the number is DWS’s number (and there is no reason to believe a lawyer is being truthful in a letter), does not mean the call came from DWS’s office.

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:49:46pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

I can remember my Dad saying “How do you like me NOW Batman?” I have to say while I liked the Ledger version of the Joker, I like Jack’s better.

Well, Nicholson’s was basically he and Burton cribbing heavily from The Killing Joke, just with less effort spent delving into the Joker’s psyche and more him being a homicidal maniac. And Ledger cribbed from Nicholson, but also mixed in a lot of the 90s era Joker development with the whole multiple choice background and sociopathic anarchy.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:50:57pm

re: #40 Targetpractice

Well, Nicholson’s was basically he and Burton cribbing heavily from The Killing Joke, just with less effort spent delving into the Joker’s psyche and more him being a homicidal maniac. And Ledger cribbed from Nicholson, but also mixed in a lot of the 90s era Joker development with the whole multiple choice background and sociopathic anarchy.

Aha. It is neat how they put their own spins on it any case.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:51:55pm

Programming note for Mr. Johnson:

My computer blocked a cross-site scripting attempt from this page of LGF. Security software offers me an “unsafe reload” of the page, which I will pass on since the page seems to be otherwise working fine.

The readout in my log on this is all gibberish to me, since I don’t know much about programming.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:52:21pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Aha. It is neat how they put their own spins on it any case.

Don’t forget Cesar Romero as the Joker.

Alfred vs The Joker

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whitebeach  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:52:25pm

Today I read a mystery novel by a writer I’ve never heard of, Tom Bouman, a book called Dry Bones in the Valley, set in a tiny township in the Marcellus Shale country of Pennsylvania. I highly recommend it. A great voice. But I mention it for one sentence: “”Poor people aren’t thin anymore, like when I was a kid; now they’re fat on the cheap food feeding the ghost of the American dream.”

The observation isn’t original or particularly striking except for the last clause: “feeding the ghost of the American dream.” Isn’t that what we see and hear around us every day, what we’ve seen and heard now for decades from these sickening bastards, what we see and hear now daily from the flaming anal clown in the Oval Office and his accomplices?

Hate to sound so bummerish, but some days it’s just like “Houston, New York, LA, Seattle, Chicago, all points in between, we have a fucking problem.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:54:13pm

re: #43 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Don’t forget Cesar Romero as the Joker.

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You know, I’ve never seen any of the old time BAtman episodes. HE does look good though. With the mustache, he kind of reminds me of Dali.

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gocart mozart  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:57:34pm
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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 5:59:41pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:00:19pm

The funny thing is that, while I’m old enough to have seen the Keaton films when they came out in theaters, I’m too young to have really appreciated them. I grew up with the Animated Series, so the Joker I best recognize is voiced by Mark Hamill.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:01:31pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

The funny thing is that, while I’m old enough to have seen the Keaton films when they came out in theaters, I’m too young to have really appreciated them. I grew up with the Animated Series, so the Joker I best recognize is voiced by Mark Hamill.

Thought you meant Buster Keaton for a moment.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:01:31pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

I remember the original TV series, Adam West, etc.

Life was simpler back then.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:02:34pm

Which is why trying to make this whole Trump-pulls-out-of-Paris-Accord into a “science” campaign probably is a waste of time.

Americans don’t care that much.

We want a simpler world.

We ache for a simpler time.

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Major Tom  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:02:41pm
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“And then the murders began.”

cnn.com

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:03:07pm

The DeVito Penguin creeped me out as a kid. The nasty teeth and all that.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:03:21pm

re: #51 freetoken

Which is why trying to make this whole Trump-pulls-out-of-Paris-Accord into a “science” campaign probably is a waste of time.

Americans don’t care that much.

We want a simpler world.

We ache for a simpler time.

Late Pleistocene was kinda cool.

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:03:54pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

Thought you meant Buster Keaton for a moment.

Yeah, worn an onion on my belt as well, which was the style at the time.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:04:24pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

Late Pleistocene was kinda cool.

Fond of Miocene myself. Big Bird and all that.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:05:08pm

LOL

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:05:22pm

re: #51 freetoken

Which is why trying to make this whole Trump-pulls-out-of-Paris-Accord into a “science” campaign probably is a waste of time.

Americans don’t care that much.

We want a simpler world.

We ache for a simpler time.

You know, it’d be cool if when you say “we” you clarify that you really are speaking for white Americans, and probably even more specifically white male Americans.

I think most minorities and a lot of women are not pining for the “old days” or the “simpler time” where they had fewer rights and less freedom.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:06:10pm

Phorusrhacos grew up to 2.5 metres (8.2 ft) tall and weighed approximately 130 kilograms (290 lb).[1] They had enormous skulls up to sixty centimeters long, armed with powerful, hook-tipped beaks. The structure of the beak and the large claws on the toes show that they were carnivorous.

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EPR-radar  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:06:10pm

re: #43 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Don’t forget Cesar Romero as the Joker.

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I still remember fragments of the old Batman series, like King Tut accidentally breaking into the bat cave. Many of the villains were played by A-list performers (e.g., Tallulah Bankhead as the Black Widow and Vincent Price as Egghead).

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:06:26pm

re: #56 freetoken

Fond of Miocene myself. Big Bird and all that.

(Actually, moderns don’t have the brainpower to have lasted in either, naked and afraid.)

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:07:14pm

re: #58 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You know, it’d be cool if when you say “we” you clarify that you really are speaking for white Americans, and probably even more specifically white male Americans.

I think most minorities and a lot of women are not pining for the “old days” or the “simpler time” where they had fewer rights and less freedom.

I would revise that to “conservative” Americans. This white American ain’t pinin’ for the old days of Jim Crow and suppression of women and minorities.

Of note, you can slice up a number of ways Donald Trump was put over the top in the election: One was white women went all-in on him.

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Mattand  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:08:42pm

re: #27 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The ones I remember him most are his guest stars on Family Guy (where he appeared as himself) and Fairly OddParents (where he appeared as the obviously named Catman). As I said, he has no problems parodying himself, and he’s quite funny, to boot.

I realize that I was and never will be the target audience for Fairly OddParents, but OMG, that show is like eating a crushed glass hoagie while having elephants in cleats rumba on your privates.

Two reasons:
1) The characters spoke in two levels: shrill and and shriller.
2) I hate that every character’s ears were drawn on their necks.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:08:53pm

re: #55 Targetpractice

Yeah, worn an onion on my belt as well, which was the style at the time.

///

Nickels had pictures of bumble bees on them. Give me five bees for a quarter, that’s what we’d say!

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EPR-radar  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:08:59pm

re: #58 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You know, it’d be cool if when you say “we” you clarify that you really are speaking for white Americans, and probably even more specifically white male Americans.

I think most minorities and a lot of women are not pining for the “old days” or the “simpler time” where they had fewer rights and less freedom.

Limiting the splash damage to white men is a step in the right direction, but is it really that hard to specify ‘Republicans’ or ‘conservatives’ when referring to the most reactionary and backward-looking US citizens?

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makeitstop  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:09:17pm

re: #46 gocart mozart

It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents - except at occasional intervals, when Jared first laid eyes upon the Russian.

…and that’s when the killings started.

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makeitstop  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:09:57pm

re: #52 Major Tom

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“And then the murders began.”

cnn.com

Damn it.

Note to self: pre-read thread.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:10:26pm

re: #58 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You know, it’d be cool if when you say “we” you clarify that you really are speaking for white Americans, and probably even more specifically white male Americans.

On my Facebook timeline, more of the Trumpers are female than male.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:10:28pm

re: #63 Mattand

I realize that I was and never will be the target audience for Fairly OddParents, but OMG, that show is like eating a crushed glass hoagie while having elephants in cleats rumba on your privates.

Two reasons:
1) The characters spoke in two levels: shrill and and shriller.
2) I hate that every character’s ears were drawn on their necks.

It was far from the worst children’s cartoon my youngest brother watched and one that I actually got some laughs from but updinging for eating a crushed glass hoagie while having elephants in cleats rumba on your privates.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:11:09pm
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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:11:50pm

First-World Problems:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:12:03pm

re: #62 Anymouse

I would revise that to “conservative” Americans. This white American ain’t pinin’ for the old days of Jim Crow and suppression of women and minorities.

Of note, you can slice up a number of ways Donald Trump was put over the top in the election: One was white women went all-in on him.

Which would be why I carefully avoided saying “most” when it came to discussing women separately from minorities, because I am aware that 53% of white women voted for Trump. I didn’t, but the statistics don’t go away just because I exist as a counterpoint.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:12:25pm

re: #68 freetoken

On my Facebook timeline, more of the Trumpers are female than male.

What really distresses me is one of my second cousins, she’s actually a few years younger than me fell totally in with Trump.She’s adopted from Russia and I just don’t get how she could fall for the man who is a patron of the man who if he had his way earlier would have prevented her father who also likes Trump from adopting her. It’s sad because she really is a nice person but man politically. Ironically enough the only person on that side of the family who hates Trump is Grandma’s older sister, the cousin’s grandmotoher.

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KGxvi  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:13:13pm

re: #7 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:13:26pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

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Yeah because that’s the same as a memorial commemorating psychotic lynching assholes as heroes.

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:14:14pm

Seeing experts point out that Trump can’t prevent Comey from testifying because he spoke publicly about the talks and that doing so would mean paying a political price. But we’re talking Donald Trump, a guy who was warned that interfering with the investigation would have consequences…and then fired Comey because he was told by his inner circle that it would be celebrated and the investigation quickly brought to an end.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:14:23pm

This…seems like an utter disaster

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:14:53pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

It’s a bot, not a real person. Though there’s plenty of real people out there who think Lincoln was a war criminal tyrant.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:14:53pm

A lot of the wingnuts have been more quiet lately in my TL though. I did though stop getting my one friend’s updates and I just know he probalby had a fit over KG. He claims he doesn’t like Trump that much but he parrots the worst RW talking points and quite honestly posts some sexiist shit.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:15:31pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

What really distresses me is one of my second cousins, she’s actually a few years younger than me fell totally in with Trump.She’s adopted from Russia and I just don’t get how she could fall for the man who is a patron of the man who if he had his way earlier would have prevented her father who also likes Trump from adopting her. It’s sad because she really is a nice person but man politically. Ironically enough the only person on that side of the family who hates Trump is Grandma’s older sister, the cousin’s grandmotoher.

My sister-in-law from the Soviet Union voted in this election the first time around, for Hillary Clinton. She characterises Donald Trump as Vladimir Putin but dumber.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:15:51pm

re: #79 teleskiguy

It’s a bot, not a real person. Though there’s plenty of real people out there who think Lincoln was a war criminal tyrant.

Thank you von Mises Institute. // Yeah and these same folks think Sherman was a war criminal but cheered Trump talking about killing family members of terrorists.

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EPR-radar  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:16:20pm

re: #78 Eclectic Cyborg

We’d have the same information content if the magazine had a picture of a cow’s ass on the cover and ‘fart noise’ as the only corresponding text.

Why do people persist in the delusion that the words of this pathological liar have any significance at all?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:16:35pm

re: #75 KGxvi

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:17:47pm

re: #81 Anymouse

My sister-in-law from the Soviet Union voted in this election the first time around, for Hillary Clinton. She characterises Donald Trump as Vladimir Putin but dumber.

My cousin being in her mid 20’s would have no memories of hte USSR obviously and little if any of Putin. I really think it comes from how abortion has become the big issue in so many communities.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:18:19pm

re: #83 EPR-radar

We’d have the same information content if the magazine had a picture of a cow’s ass on the cover and ‘fart noise’ as the only corresponding text.

Why do people persist in the delusion that the words of this pathological liar have any significance at all?

The same reason why they embraced him as a champion of the common man and thought Obama was an elitist. They project bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:19:22pm

On another note, do we really think had the CSA won that they would have memorials to the Union?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:19:42pm

I need to see CSA again, that was a fun mockumentary.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:21:45pm

re: #79 teleskiguy

It’s a bot, not a real person. Though there’s plenty of real people out there who think Lincoln was a war criminal tyrant.

Had an ex-coworker who compared Lincoln to Hitler and Stalin.

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EPR-radar  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:22:22pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

My cousin being in her mid 20’s would have no memories of hte USSR obviously and little if any of Putin. I really think it comes from how abortion has become the big issue in so many communities.

If trump gets another SOCTUS justice, Roe v. Wade will get overturned, even though that would not politically help the Republicans.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:23:13pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

The funny thing is that, while I’m old enough to have seen the Keaton films when they came out in theaters, I’m too young to have really appreciated them. I grew up with the Animated Series, so the Joker I best recognize is voiced by Mark Hamill.

I loved the Animated Series as a kid. One reason I loved the Batman: Arkham series is because they brought back a lot of the voice actor cast, including Kevin Conroy and Hamill.

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EPR-radar  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:23:47pm

re: #90 Timothy Watson

Had an ex-coworker who compared Lincoln to Hitler and Stalin.

I’n rude enough that I’d probably ask such a person why they want to bring back slavery.

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meteor  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:23:54pm

re: #15 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Mine too.

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KingKenrod  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:23:55pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

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Big yuks, that got a follow from me.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:24:02pm

re: #91 EPR-radar

If trump gets another SOCTUS justice, Roe v. Wade will get overturned, even though that would not politically help the Republicans.

There are several such issues, which means the Republicans would kneecap Trump.

In a sane world.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:24:03pm

re: #90 Timothy Watson

Had an ex-coworker who compared Lincoln to Hitler and Stalin.

Par for the course there in east central Virginia.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:24:12pm

re: #91 EPR-radar

If trump gets another SOCTUS justice, Roe v. Wade will get overturned, even though that would not politically help the Republicans.

Yeah they wouldn’t eb able to scare voters but I’d prefer we keep Roe v Wade for obvs reasons.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:24:34pm

re: #93 EPR-radar

I’n rude enough that I’d probably ask such a person why they want to bring back slavery.

Because he was a racist, unreconstructed Confederate?

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Renaissance_Man  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:24:35pm

re: #83 EPR-radar

We’d have the same information content if the magazine had a picture of a cow’s ass on the cover and ‘fart noise’ as the only corresponding text.

Why do people persist in the delusion that the words of this pathological liar have any significance at all?

The same reason that we have endless pieces in the news media about Trump voters and essentially nothing about the rest of the populace.

Because the vast majority of the American media attempts to normalise and maintain the dominant narrative, which is the experience of white, middle class America.

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TedStriker  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:24:59pm

re: #60 EPR-radar

I still remember fragments of the old Batman series, like King Tut accidentally breaking into the bat cave. Many of the villains were played by A-list performers (e.g., Tallulah Bankhead as the Black Widow and Vincent Price as Egghead).

Don’t forget the Cat(women): Newmar, Kitt, Meriweather.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:25:38pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

Par for the course there in east central Virginia.

Yep. I remember we drove to Richmond for a Democratic Party function from Fairfax (NOVA) where I went to school. We were predomiantely Virginians and or upper classmen, and one of the freshmen who was from Long Island was just shocked to see the CSA flag in a small town that we stopped in for lunch.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:25:51pm

re: #101 TedStriker

Don’t forget the Cat(women): Newmar, Kitt, Meriweather.

To be fair, Anne Hathaway made that outfit look good. As a character, not so much, but dayum.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:26:18pm

re: #90 Timothy Watson

Had an ex-coworker who compared Lincoln to Hitler and Stalin.

It really isn’t an uncommon view among the good old boys here.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:26:26pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

My cousin being in her mid 20’s would have no memories of hte USSR obviously and little if any of Putin. I really think it comes from how abortion has become the big issue in so many communities.

Back when the faked-up “baby parts” videos were promoted by James O’Keefe, my wife and I walked into a shop in Sidney where the clerk started accusing liberals of being baby-killers when we were at the checkout.

We left our goods and walked out. We have not been back.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:27:16pm

re: #105 Anymouse

Did you inform the store manager/owner?

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gocart mozart  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:27:32pm
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Timothy Watson  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:27:38pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Yep. I remember we drove to Richmond for a Democratic Party function from Fairfax (NOVA) where I went to school. We were predomiantely Virginians and or upper classmen, and one of the freshmen who was from Long Island was just shocked to see the CSA flag in a small town that we stopped in for lunch.

Shit, you can see a huge one from I-95 in South Stafford and bunches more if you go down some of the side roads.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:28:40pm

re: #100 Renaissance_Man

The same reason that we have endless pieces in the news media about Trump voters and essentially nothing about the rest of the populace.

Because the vast majority of the American media attempts to normalise and maintain the dominant narrative, which is the experience of white, middle class America.

Again, I’ll put my offer to CNN: White, middle aged military vet who lives in the Trumpest Trump country to Trump, who voted for Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine. Please come interview me.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:29:30pm

re: #106 freetoken

Did you inform the store manager/owner?

I’m not sure who the owner is. (A chain tobacco store.) As for the manager, I’m not sure either.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:29:41pm

re: #105 Anymouse

Back when the faked-up “baby parts” videos were promoted by James O’Keefe, my wife and I walked into a shop in Sidney where the clerk started accusing liberals of being baby-killers when we were at the checkout.

We left our goods and walked out. We have not been back.

I don’t blame you. My great aunt is anti-abortion too but she doesn’t vote Republican becaues of it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:30:17pm

re: #108 Timothy Watson

Shit, you can see a huge one from I-95 in South Stafford and bunches more if you down some of the side roads.

You know? That may have been what we saw. We were near Fredericksburg. This really feels like it’s three states in one at times.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:30:42pm

re: #109 Anymouse

Again, I’ll put my offer to CNN: White, middle aged military vet who lives in the Trumpest Trump country to Trump, who voted for Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine. Please come interview me.

You’re not a coal miner though. Everyone knows only coal miners matter. //

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:31:27pm

re: #90 Timothy Watson

Had an ex-coworker who compared Lincoln to Hitler and Stalin.

In the deep south there is a huge body of folklore built around family stories, essentially legends, of the alleged atrocities committed on Sherman’s March. I saw a really interesting study of this that attempted to correlate these stories with Sherman’s actual progress through the region. It considered only the stories that could be identified with a specific documented place (“grandpappy’s farm outside Clinchfield”). It found that many of the claims involved locales that were up to 200 miles from Sherman’s documented line of march, and that the average deviation was over 60 miles. Now, Sherman’s foragers did occasionally range that far, but 60 miles as an average is absurd.
I can’t guarantee that I remember the details exactly, but they are close. Unfortunately, there is no link to it that I can find. Y’all might have better luck.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:31:33pm

re: #108 Timothy Watson

Shit, you can see a huge one from I-95 in South Stafford and bunches more if you down some of the side roads.

This one?

I’m with Stupid
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gocart mozart  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:31:40pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:32:22pm

re: #108 Timothy Watson

Shit, you can see a huge one from I-95 in South Stafford and bunches more if you go down some of the side roads.

Largest in the world flys off I95 approaching Tampa. Former largest on I65 between Montgomery and Birmingham. Both are SCV monuments.

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EPR-radar  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:32:25pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

I don’t blame you. My great aunt is anti-abortion too but she doesn’t vote Republican becaues of it.

It’s so obvious that this GOP anti-abortion shit is to deflect from the GOP’s innumerable crimes and sins. All of these can be conveniently ignored once they tell themselves that at least they aren’t baby-killing liberal devils.

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William Lewis  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:33:37pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:34:18pm

re: #118 EPR-radar

It’s so obvious that this GOP anti-abortion shit is to deflect from the GOP’s innumerable crimes and sins. All of these can be conveniently ignored once they tell themselves that at least they aren’t baby-killing liberal devils.

Yep. I don’t really talk to these cousins that often anyhow- we’re not FB friends and we’ve only actually met a couple times. It just confuses the hell out of my grandmother who remembers how poor she and her siblings were. Grandma, I’ll give her credit, she’s become pro SSM in her late 80’s.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:34:53pm

re: #116 gocart mozart

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Timothy Watson  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:36:03pm

Racist shitbags have a blog where they brag about putting the flags up along I-95 in Virginia:
vaflaggers.blogspot.com

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makeitstop  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:37:22pm

Dunno if this has been posted - Germany’s Rock Am Ring Festival is evacuated after ‘concrete’ terror threat.

One of the biggest music festivals in Germany has been shut down after a ‘concrete’ terror threat.

Rock am Ring was cancelled on its opening night and thousands of festival-goers were told to leave the site in Nürburg in a ‘calm and controlled manner’.

Some 92,500 three-day tickets were sold for the festival, which was due to run from Friday until Sunday.

The dpa news agency reported that the festival was cleared out on its opening night after Koblenz police said they had received information of a ‘concrete threat’.
The cancellation was announced on the Rock am Ring Facebook page.

A spokesman said: ‘Due to a terrorist threat the police have advised us to interrupt the festival.

‘We ask all festival visitors to leave the festival site in a calm and controlled manner towards the exits and camping grounds.

‘We have to support the police investigations.’

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:38:23pm

re: #123 makeitstop

Dunno if this has been posted - Germany’s Rock Am Ring Festival is evacuated after ‘concrete’ terror threat.

Wagner fans?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:40:05pm

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel

In the deep south there is a huge body of folklore built around family stories, essentially legends, of the alleged atrocities committed on Sherman’s March. I saw a really interesting study of this that attempted to correlate these stories with Sherman’s actual progress through the region. It considered only the stories that could be identified with a specific documented place (“grandpappy’s farm outside Clinchfield”). It found that many of the claims involved locales that were up to 200 miles from Sherman’s documented line of march, and that the average deviation was over 60 miles. Now, Sherman’s foragers did occasionally range that far, but 60 miles as an average is absurd.
I can’t guarantee that I remember the details exactly, but they are close. Unfortunately, there is no link to it that I can find. Y’all might have better luck.

I knew quite a few of those types when I posted on a conservative/liberal forum in Bush’s second term. It honestly shocked me because I thought CSA fans were the fringest of the right and that most conservatives more or less agreed that the Union was right and that Lincon > Davis but nope. The odd thing was one guy was IIRC descended from Southern Unionists like you yourself are.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:40:56pm

WTF?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:41:33pm

I’m always proud to point out I have a great great grandfather who served in the Army of the Potomac despite being a fairly newly arrived German immigrant. We have a photo of his blacksmith shop and he’s somehwere in the photo but i don’t know which man is him.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:43:54pm

Our owl family has taken up residence in the tangle across the driveway. We get to see them every evening about 8.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:44:12pm
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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:47:02pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

I knew quite a few of those types when I posted on a conservative/liberal forum in Bush’s second term. It honestly shocked me because I thought CSA fans were the fringest of the right and that most conservatives more or less agreed that the Union was right and that Lincon > Davis but nope. The odd thing was one guy was IIRC descended from Southern Unionists like you yourself are.

This Michigander was stationed throughout Dixie in his Navy career.

Never has I seen unreconstructed Confederates as anything but the mainstream of Movement Conservative.

(Note the attacks on Barry Goldwater for his associations with folk like the John Birch Society and the Ku Klux Klan.)

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bratwurst  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:48:31pm

I have fucking had it. The amount of idiocy unleashed by the mere existence of a superhero movie starring and directed by a woman is incredible.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:49:08pm

re: #130 Anymouse

This Michigander was stationed throughout Dixie in his Navy career.

Never has I seen unreconstructed Confederates as anything but the mainstream of Movement Conservative.

(Note the attacks on Barry Goldwater for his associations with folk like the John Birch Society and the Ku Klux Klan.)

I guess I took it for granted that most conservatives liked Lincoln more than Davis. Bear in mind, most of our conservatives where I gew up are not the good old boys but rather transplants themselves or children of them like my parents. I’m aware about the attacks on Goldwater but I had no idea how much Lincoln hatred was within the mainsream of the conservative movement til then.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:49:33pm

re: #131 bratwurst

Go see the movie. It’s well worth it.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:49:33pm

Frontier Airlines takes the heat off United:

cbsnews.com

TAMPA, Fla. — A legally blind man says an airline refused to allow him to board a flight with his 18-month-old granddaughter.

The Tampa Bay Times reports Kliphton Miller tried to board a Frontier flight from Tampa to Las Vegas with the child on May 23.

The 44-year-old Miller asked for help getting on the plane once he reached his gate. That’s when airline employees began to question his ability to watch over the young child during the trip, according to Miller.

“I frequently fly with my granddaughter on other airlines and had flown on Frontier with her before too, but they still denied me access,” Miller told the newspaper. “I was denied because I am blind. They told me I was a liability.”

(More at CBS)

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:49:52pm

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel

In the deep south there is a huge body of folklore built around family stories, essentially legends, of the alleged atrocities committed on Sherman’s March.

This may be one of the origins of the present day conservative entitled-victim mindset.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:50:20pm

re: #131 bratwurst

I have fucking had it. The amount of idiocy unleashed by the mere existence of a superhero movie starring and directed by a woman is incredible.

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OFFS. God Fox is so pathetic and pedantic. IF they spent a fraction of the amount of time actually scruntizing what Trump does that they do stuff like this, they may actually be a somewhat respectable network. I jest sorta.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:50:54pm

re: #131 bratwurst

I have fucking had it. The amount of idiocy unleashed by the mere existence of a superhero movie starring and directed by a woman is incredible.

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Who the fuck gives a shit if it’s “patriotic” enough?! THAT’S NOT THE POINT OF A MOVIE!!! It’s good entertainment, it tells a story, and in this case, it’s about a powerful woman. Why does it have to be about white male egos?!

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:51:29pm

re: #137 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Who the fuck gives a shit if it’s “patriotic” enough?! THAT’S NOT THE POINT OF A MOVIE!!! It’s good entertainment, it tells a story, and in this case, it’s about a powerful woman. Why does it have to be about white male egos?!

Melty snowflakes are melty.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:52:01pm

re: #131 bratwurst

Wait ‘til they find out the Green Lantern organization accepts aliens.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:52:14pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

Melty snowflakes are melty.

At this point, I’m about ready to turn a metaphorical flamethrower on the religious Right. They can suck a dick for all I care - with all the homosexual implications that carries.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:52:40pm

re: #136 HappyWarrior

OFFS. God Fox is so pathetic and pedantic. IF they spent a fraction of the amount of time actually scruntizing what Trump does that they do stuff like this, they may actually be a somewhat respectable network. I jest sorta.

Wonder Woman is not from the United States. She is patriotic to Thermyscira. /s

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retired cynic  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:53:14pm

I have some Phoebes nesting in a prepared gourd hanging on my front porch, and we are becoming quite well acquainted. There are also two families of barn swallows and a small group of ruby throated hummingbirds, and a Baltimore oriole family way up the closest pecan tree in the front yard. I have lots and lots of company, indeed!

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:53:18pm

re: #56 freetoken

Murder birds.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:53:41pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

Melty snowflakes are melty.

Seriously they call us snowflakes and they whine about shit like this? If the movie has a good enough story, entertains enough, I could care less sbout how patriotic it is. Besides Wonder Woman like all superheroes is meant to be a hero for all of man and womankind.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:54:16pm

re: #141 Anymouse

Wonder Woman is not from the United States. She is patriotic to Thermyscira. /s

NExt on FNC, should we deport Superman back to Kyrpton?

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:54:27pm

Smack.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:54:28pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Seriously they call us snowflakes and they whine about shit like this? If the movie has a good enough story, entertains enough, I could care less sbout how patriotic it is. Besides Wonder Woman like all superheroes is meant to be a hero for all of man and womankind.

Yes, but the woman-only showings clearly indicate that it is offensive to the white male majority, which makes it threatening, therefore BURN THE HERETICS.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:54:39pm

Hahaha my cousin thought i was bsing her when I Said I didn’t hate kale.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:55:32pm

re: #137 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:55:51pm

re: #59 freetoken

Aren’t we glad those things aren’t around any more?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:56:06pm

re: #147 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yes, but the woman-only showings clearly indicate that it is offensive to the white male majority, which makes it threatening, therefore BURN THE HERETICS.

What’s really been frustrating me is my brother, the one woh isn’t married has become quasi MRA. It’s frustrating. My other brother I actually think has become more feminist in mindset since becoming a father and husband. He wants his daughter to enjoy everything she can.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:56:31pm

re: #149 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:56:59pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

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Comey’s the drama queen? Gee don’t you support the guy who flips out over everything? Maybe Comey didn’t appreciate that his investigation was being undermined by a bullying chode.

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Skip Intro  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:57:50pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

Surfers out there, pour one out for dude.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:58:06pm

re: #153 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:58:25pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

I had this kale salad in Phoenix a couple years ago; it was fantastic.
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:58:36pm

re: #131 bratwurst

I have fucking had it. The amount of idiocy unleashed by the mere existence of a superhero movie starring and directed by a woman is incredible.

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whitebeach  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:58:43pm

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel

In the deep south there is a huge body of folklore built around family stories, essentially legends, of the alleged atrocities committed on Sherman’s March. I saw a really interesting study of this that attempted to correlate these stories with Sherman’s actual progress through the region. It considered only the stories that could be identified with a specific documented place (“grandpappy’s farm outside Clinchfield”). It found that many of the claims involved locales that were up to 200 miles from Sherman’s documented line of march, and that the average deviation was over 60 miles.

There is a huge body of folklore of this kind promulgated every time it offers a path to power. Look at the “spitting image” pushed by the Nixon crims, about how returning Vietnam vets were subject to this huge and widespread abuse. Documentation? Zero.

People want to believe stuff. When I was a kid, you could find lots of codgers who claimed to have seen Babe Ruth “call his shot” on a home run, although not a single account from the time even mentioned such a thing.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:59:05pm

re: #157 jaunte

I had this kale salad in Phoenix a couple years ago; it was fantastic.
drweil.com

That looks delicious.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:59:42pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 6:59:50pm

re: #157 jaunte

I had this kale salad in Phoenix a couple years ago; it was fantastic.
drweil.com

I really like kale salads. I’ve had some damn good kale Caesars.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:00:05pm

re: #159 whitebeach

There is a huge body of folklore of this kind promulgated every time it offers a path to power. Look at the “spitting image” pushed by the Nixon crims, about how returning Vietnam vets were subject to this huge and widespread abuse. Documentation? Zero.

People want to believe stuff. When I was a kid, you could find lots of codgers who claimed to have seen Babe Ruth “call his shot” on a home run, although not a single account from the time even mentioned such a thing.

Legends are so interesting in that way.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:00:17pm

re: #156 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:00:52pm

re: #162 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I really like kale salads. I’ve had some damn good kale Caesars.

I have too. I think my cousin thought I was bsing her heh since I’m a beer, meat, and potatoes kind of guy but damn it I like fruit juices, fish, and kale too!

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:01:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:01:19pm

I really like kale with dried cranberries in it and some cheese and good dressing.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:02:19pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

I really like kale with dried cranberries in it and some cheese and good dressing.

Kids nowadays will eat anything.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:02:39pm

re: #168 Timothy Watson

Kids nowadays will eat anything.

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Like my kids with their avocado toast?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:02:57pm

I forgot that when I run a lot of mileage, my feet end up getting dried out and start cracking.

(Including last Friday I’ve run 43 miles this week.)

I should remember this earlier next time.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:03:28pm

re: #168 Timothy Watson

Kids nowadays will eat anything.

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HAhahhaha aren’t I older than you?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:03:40pm

re: #169 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Like my kids with their avocado toast?

or my niece with hummus.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:04:11pm

re: #168 Timothy Watson

Kids nowadays will eat anything.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:04:34pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

or my niece with hummus.

Oh, fishspawn like that too. Apparently we’re hipster millennials something something something.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:05:05pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Legends are so interesting in that way.

I’m not the reincarnation of Joseph Campbell (that and he was alive at the same time I was, but you never saw us in the same room together), but as best as I can tell, legends, whether secular or religious, are designed to make “our team look good and the other teams bad.”

How will the Chicago Cubs ever get along with their legendary slogan “the lovable losers?”

George Washington did not cut down a cherry tree then admit it. That anecdote has no evidence to support it, but it makes “our team” feel good (our first president was honest).

Legendary stories pop up about just about everything.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:05:16pm

re: #169 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Like my kids with their avocado toast?

They’ll never be able to afford a house!

re: #171 HappyWarrior

HAhahhaha aren’t I older than you?

Yeah, by a couple months I think. (I was born 12/1987.) I don’t eat this green stuff people call “vegetables”.

Except for the occasional Caesar salad.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:06:22pm

re: #174 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, fishspawn like that too. Apparently we’re hipster millennials something something something.

My brother and his wife are more hippie millennials. It’s actually quite remarkable since he loved him some fried chicken as a kid. We’re very diet wise similiar. Always open to try new stuff. He introduced me to cerviche and anticuchos.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:07:21pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

My brother and his wife are more hippie millennials. It’s actually quite remarkable since he loved him some fried chicken as a kid. We’re very diet wise similiar. Always open to try new stuff. He introduced me to cerviche and anticuchos.

I’ve always been shy about trying new foods, until Mrs. Fish introduced me to sushi. Ever since then, I have implicitly trusted her judgment about what is consumable and what is not. More times than not, she’s been correct, and I’ve never been happier to admit it.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:07:23pm

For my history reading of the night, the Abbeville Press, of Abbeville, S.C., which after a brief respite started publishing again in September 1865. Here’s the front page:

Note in particular the editor’s column on the left, and the article on the right titled “Admit the Fact”, borrowed from another local paper.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:07:27pm

re: #175 Anymouse

I’m not the reincarnation of Joseph Campbell (that and he was alive at the same time I was, but you never saw us in the same room together), but as best as I can tell, legends, whether secular or religious, are designed to make “our team look good and the other teams bad.”

How will the Chicago Cubs ever get along with their legendary slogan “the lovable losers?”

George Washington did not cut down a cherry tree then admit it. That anecdote has no evidence to support it, but it makes “our team” feel good (our first president was honest).

Legendary stories pop up about just about everything.

We have family legends too. I nearly took a folklore class in college. Ended up doing modern lit instead, no regrets but that would have been a great class too. I love urban legends.

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MsJ  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:07:38pm

re: #39 Anymouse

Carried over from the last thread:

It is fairly easy to spoof a caller ID number. (I get calls from telemarketers all the time with alleged local telephone numbers. Makes it pretty easy to ignore them since I live in a town with just over 100 people.)

Just because the number is DWS’s number (and there is no reason to believe a lawyer is being truthful in a letter), does not mean the call came from DWS’s office.

I’m glad to read that (and what other’s have said). That makes me feel better. I don’t like or dislike DWS. But that utter stupidity would have changed my opinion to be sure.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:07:46pm

re: #176 Timothy Watson

They’ll never be able to afford a house!

Yeah, by a couple months I think. (I was born 12/1987.) I don’t eat this green stuff people call “vegetables”.

Except for the occasional Caesar salad.

Yep five months older than ya since I hit the 3-0 in July.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:08:30pm

re: #175 Anymouse

George Washington did not cut down a cherry tree then admit it. That anecdote has no evidence to support it, but it makes “our team” feel good (our first president was honest).

Just like there’s no contemporary evidence supporting the idea that Betsy Ross created the first American flag.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:08:47pm

re: #178 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’ve always been shy about trying new foods, until Mrs. Fish introduced me to sushi. Ever since then, I have implicitly trusted her judgment about what is consumable and what is not. More times than not, she’s been correct, and I’ve never been happier to admit it.

Dude, I went to a great sushi buffet the other day. Really good. Went to an Indian buffet last week. Realize that I actually like buffets but for ethnic ofod only.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:09:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:09:19pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:09:32pm

re: #184 HappyWarrior

Dude, I went to a great sushi buffet the other day. Really good. Went to an Indian buffet last week. Realize that I actually like buffets but for ethnic ofod only.

Indian buffets have some fantastic selections. I need to go back. The interesting thing about an Indian buffet, they divide it into halves. One half is vegetarian, the other half is not.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:10:35pm

My wife opened the front door, and a cheque from the village for $115 dropped out. My graft for the month. /s

Actually, it’s the remainder of my travel claim for water operator school. I’m hardly in a position to get graft from anyone.

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Skip Intro  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:12:18pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

While he’s hiding out at another one of his golf courses.

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scottslemmons  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:12:37pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Michael Keaton for me. Nicholson my favorite Joker.

Late to the party, but Kevin Conroy is still my favorite Batman. Almost all the voice actors from the Batman, Superman, and Justice League animated series of the ’90s-early 2000s were fantastic. In fact, when Powers Boothe died recently, the first thing I thought was “Dang, he was such a great Gorilla Grodd…”

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:12:58pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

He could play that a couple ways, Mr. Johnson.

a) If his crowd is bigger (excuse me whilst I stifle a snicker), they could harass people.
b) If his crowd is not, he could simply claim they were all his crowd and what great support he has.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:13:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:13:36pm

re: #187 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Indian buffets have some fantastic selections. I need to go back. The interesting thing about an Indian buffet, they divide it into halves. One half is vegetarian, the other half is not.

The bread is what makes Indian work for me. And honestly the dishes are pretty diverse too which is great for a buffet setting.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:14:11pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

The bread is what makes Indian work for me. And honestly the dishes are pretty diverse too which is great for a buffet setting.

Naan is everything that is good and wonderful in this world and I would eat waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much of it and have to run a damn marathon.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:14:19pm

re: #119 William Lewis

“Stupid bot, thinking is for humans.”

Although it’s damned hard to tell sometimes.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:14:35pm
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scottslemmons  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:15:29pm

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:15:49pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

The bread is what makes Indian work for me. And honestly the dishes are pretty diverse too which is great for a buffet setting.

When I was working on-site for my current client, the big boss offered to treat myself and the rest of my co-workers to lunch. My co-workers being Indian, they naturally chose an Indian buffet. They were sitting at one end of the table, laughing and having a grand time. Myself and a couple of other cow-orkers were in the middle, enjoying the spicy food, but laboring a little bit. The boss, on the other hand, was sitting at the far end of the table, sweating bullets, completely in over his head with even the mildest entrees. It was amusing, to me anyway.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:16:49pm

re: #196 Charles Johnson

Still looking for a Reichstag Fire perhaps?

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EPR-radar  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:17:39pm

re: #199 Anymouse

Still looking for a Reichstag Fire perhaps?

Bannon surely is. trump is too addled for that kind of planning.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:17:46pm

re: #194 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Naan is everything that is good and wonderful in this world and I would eat waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much of it and have to run a damn marathon.

It’s the best. Honestly, I think I haven’t been able to get into Ethiopian as much is because I don’t like the bread as much.

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KGxvi  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:17:54pm

re: #131 bratwurst

I have fucking had it. The amount of idiocy unleashed by the mere existence of a superhero movie starring and directed by a woman is incredible.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:18:59pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

It’s the best. Honestly, I think I haven’t been able to get into Ethiopian as much is because I don’t like the bread as much.

We have a really good Ethiopian place that we need to go back to, but there’s also the Burmese place in the same shopping center that mr. klys wants to try …assuming we can tear ourselves away from going to the izakaya that is one of our favorites.

And he keeps saying we need to do Thai food so I can stop associating it with my ex and avoiding it for that reason.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:19:03pm

re: #202 KGxvi

It is an importantly question: is a movie about Greek demigodess who is thousands of years old sufficiently patriotic when it comes to the US in the twenty first century

Hahahhaa so true. Do they even listen to themeslves talk?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:19:55pm

re: #203 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We have a really good Ethiopian place that we need to go back to, but there’s also the Burmese place in the same shopping center that mr. klys wants to try …assuming we can tear ourselves away from going to the izakaya that is one of our favorites.

And he keeps saying we need to do Thai food so I can stop associating it with my ex and avoiding it for that reason.

Tried Burmese. I liked it. You know what I’ve tried that I like though, Dominican. I really have come to like Latin food a lot.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:20:06pm

re: #203 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We have a really good Ethiopian place that we need to go back to, but there’s also the Burmese place in the same shopping center that mr. klys wants to try …assuming we can tear ourselves away from going to the izakaya that is one of our favorites.

And he keeps saying we need to do Thai food so I can stop associating it with my ex and avoiding it for that reason.

One thing to look into may be Bitesquad or similar. I have had dishes, such as Ethiopian, delivered to my office, which I then take home for dinner. I am fortunate in that the Twin Cities has a glut of ethnic diversity, from which I can choose a rich palate of food.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:20:22pm

re: #137 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Why does it have to be about white male egos?!

Because many white male egos are fragile and should not ever be challenged lest they lose their spot at the top of the heap.

Weaklings.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:22:53pm

There’s a Czech restaurant in D.C. Not really a ton of spices there as I think Dr. Lizardo will concur but it’s good comfort food if you like meat, potatoes, and dumplings.

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retired cynic  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:22:55pm

re: #206 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I can get fried chicken or fried fish or fried pork steak or fried shrimp. Lots of variants!

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:23:21pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Tried Burmese. I liked it. You know what I’ve tried that I like though, Dominican. I really have come to like Latin food a lot.

The only ethnic food restaurants we have around here are American greasy spoon, Mexican (a couple Mexican restaurants within sixty miles, run by Mexican immigrants or descendants), and a couple Chinese restaurants (one run by Chinese immigrants and one by Cambodian immigrants).

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EPR-radar  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:24:09pm

re: #207 Romantic Heretic

Because many white male egos are fragile and should not ever be challenged lest they lose their spot at the top of the heap.

Weaklings.

These idiots irritate me enough that I’ll break my normal rule of avoiding gendered insults by labeling them as disgraces to their species and gender.

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MsJ  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:25:00pm

re: #126 Anymouse

If I never heard Bernie Sanders name again I’d be perfectly content. Seriously, fuck that guy.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:25:01pm

re: #210 Anymouse

The only ethnic food restaurants we have around here are American greasy spoon, Mexican (a couple Mexican restaurants within sixty miles, run by Mexican immigrants or descendants), and a couple Chinese restaurants (one run by Chinese immigrants and one by Cambodian immigrants).

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:25:02pm

re: #211 EPR-radar

These idiots irritate me enough that I’ll break my normal rule of avoiding gendered insults by labeling them as disgraces to their species and gender.

I’m a while male with an ego and I approve this message. /s (hashtag notallwhitemales)

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whitebeach  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:26:30pm

re: #209 retired cynic

I can get fried chicken or fried fish or fried pork steak or fried shrimp. Lots of variants!

Me too! But I can also get barbecued chicken, fish, pork, or shrimp (although not New Orleans style). Isn’t life in the South a perpetual festival of new tastes and new ideas?

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whitebeach  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:27:36pm

re: #212 MsJ

If I never heard Bernie Sanders name again I’d be perfectly content. Seriously, fuck that guy.

We really need an upding multiplier on this site.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:27:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:27:40pm

re: #210 Anymouse

The only ethnic food restaurants we have around here are American greasy spoon, Mexican (a couple Mexican restaurants within sixty miles, run by Mexican immigrants or descendants), and a couple Chinese restaurants (one run by Chinese immigrants and one by Cambodian immigrants).

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That’s why I love where i live. Lots to choose from. I’m a foodie.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:28:16pm

So this states climate pact thing…could the Federal government just say “fuck you guys” and shut that down or no?

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retired cynic  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:28:50pm

re: #215 whitebeach

Me too! But I can also get barbecued chicken, fish, pork, or shrimp (although not New Orleans style). Isn’t life in the South a perpetual festival of new tastes and new ideas?

oooohhhh….. I’m not south, just deprived. I can get good Mexican and decent Chinese if I’m willing to drive 40 minutes. If willing to drive 90 minutes, lots of other choices in state capitol.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:29:36pm
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calochortus  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:30:17pm

Mr. C’s inability to eat gluten without pain has really put a dent in our visiting ethnic (or any other) restaurants. It’s possible, but not necessarily easy… On the other hand, we have any number of ethnic grocery stores and the internet provides recipes.

Which brings up the question, has anyone here ever cooked with corn smut, aka huitlacoche? It was mentioned on a program the other evening and Mr. C. and I sort of looked at each other and said we really ought to try that.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:30:54pm

Trump is a thug.

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caseyjr  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:31:01pm

re: #135 jaunte

This may be one of the origins of the present day conservative entitled-victim mindset.

Obvs. none of Sherman’s outrages approached what Kathy Griffin did
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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:31:36pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

Trump is a thug.

He reminds me of the dictators and strongmen I read about in the former Soviet Republics.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:31:39pm

re: #222 calochortus

Mr. C’s inability to eat gluten without pain has really put a dent in our visiting ethnic (or any other) restaurants. It’s possible, but not necessarily easy… On the other hand, we have any number of ethnic grocery stores and the internet provides recipes.

Which brings up the question, has anyone here ever cooked with corn smut, aka huitlacoche? It was mentioned on a program the other evening and Mr. C. and I sort of looked at each other and said we really ought to try that.

I have not cooked with it.

I have eaten it. In Mexico, no less.

It’s yummy.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:31:52pm

Coconut covered cashews + Ale = Yum!

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:32:01pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

That’s why I love where i live. Lots to choose from. I’m a foodie.

That’s one of the reasons my mother likes living in Chicago. Out her apartment back door is a Polish restaurant. Around the corner are a couple Korean and Thai restaurants. Across the street is a Mexican restaurant. A few blocks away there is a Czech restaurant.

She comes from the same tiny town in Michigan I do. (Funny how that works.) She ran into someone at the airport complaining that they liked coming to Chicago because that person lived in a small town (200,000 people). My mother noted our hometown (less than 200 people). He couldn’t imagine a town that small.

There were more people on the aircraft carriers I was stationed aboard than number of people in my county now.

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retired cynic  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:32:09pm

re: #222 calochortus

Mr. C’s inability to eat gluten without pain has really put a dent in our visiting ethnic (or any other) restaurants. It’s possible, but not necessarily easy… On the other hand, we have any number of ethnic grocery stores and the internet provides recipes.

Which brings up the question, has anyone here ever cooked with corn smut, aka huitlacoche? It was mentioned on a program the other evening and Mr. C. and I sort of looked at each other and said we really ought to try that.

Speaking as a corn farmer (retired), if you saw it, you might not think that.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:33:01pm

re: #228 Anymouse

That’s one of the reasons my mother likes living in Chicago. Out her apartment back door is a Polish restaurant. Around the corner are a couple Korean and Thai restaurants. Across the street is a Mexican restaurant. A few blocks away there is a Czech restaurant.

She comes from the same tiny town in Michigan I do. (Funny how that works.) She ran into someone at the airport complaining that they liked coming to Chicago because that person lived in a small town (200,000 people). My mother noted our hometown (less than 200 people). He couldn’t imagine a town that small.

There were more people on the aircraft carriers I was stationed aboard than number of people in my county now.

Yeah I love Polish food. Slovak cuisine is similiar. We eat a lot of pirohi and kolbasi. It’s as I said, not spicy really at all but it’s great comfort food and great to eat before a show and with a cold beer.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:33:12pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

That’s why I love where i live. Lots to choose from. I’m a foodie.

The Twin Cities is rich in ethnic food choices. I just need to quit being a picky asshole and start ordering. I can pick out any stuff I don’t like, I’ve been doing it my whole life.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:34:09pm

re: #231 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Twin Cities is rich in ethnic food choices. I just need to quit being a picky asshole and start ordering. I can pick out any stuff I don’t like, I’ve been doing it my whole life.

Have they opened any Somali restraurants with all the Somali immigrants to the area? I imagine Somalia has a lot of good seafood pitions given its geography.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:34:27pm

re: #228 Anymouse

One of the reasons I like Toronto so much is the food selection.

Hmm. Haven’t been for Dim Sum in a while.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:34:51pm

re: #232 HappyWarrior

Have they opened any Somali restraurants with all the Somali immigrants to the area? I imagine Somalia has a lot of good seafood pitions given its geography.

I’m sure they have! I just haven’t looked yet. Somalis are a major part of our non-white population, along with the Hmong (whose restaurants I have seen, though I have not tried).

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:34:53pm

“Trump loyalty an issue in Dickey-Figueroa contest for Texas GOP chairmanship “

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makeitstop  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:35:40pm

re: #213 Timothy Watson

Another edition of Deep Thoughts with MoDo.

Mean Girl. MoDo is in a virtual tie with Peggy Noonan for the most vapid columnist ever. She should be writing a gossip column,, she’d be really good at it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:35:55pm

re: #234 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m sure they have! I just haven’t looked yet. Somalis are a major part of our non-white population, along with the Hmong (whose restaurants I have seen, though I have not tried).

Yeah I was going to ask about the Hmong too. IIRC they’re a mountainous people so they probably don’t use too much if any seatood but probably have some great dishes.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:36:21pm

re: #235 jaunte

“Trump loyalty an issue in Dickey-Figueroa contest for Texas GOP chairmanship “

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REason 164778886 why the never Trumpers are frauds.

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calochortus  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:36:47pm

re: #226 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have not cooked with it.

I have eaten it. In Mexico, no less.

It’s yummy.

Well, it will definitely go on the “must try” list then.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:36:55pm

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Yeah I was going to ask about the Hmong too. IIRC they’re a mountainous people so they probably don’t use too much if any seatood but probably have some great dishes.

I go through the Hmong district every Monday when I take the light rail transit from Minneapolis to St. Paul (and back). I don’t know much about them, but they have a prominent place on University Avenue.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:37:44pm

re: #240 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I go through the Hmong district every Monday when I take the light rail transit from Minneapolis to St. Paul (and back). I don’t know much about them, but they have a prominent place on University Avenue.

I don’t either. I just remember hearing that they came from the mountains of Laos I believe.

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calochortus  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:38:05pm

re: #229 retired cynic

Speaking as a corn farmer (retired), if you saw it, you might not think that.

Thanks, but I have seen it. I’ve even had a bit on corn I bought, but silly me, I didn’t know it was edible at the time.

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whitebeach  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:38:24pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

Trump is a thug.

Come on, Charles. A thug is a guy who physically scares you in a bar or an alley or on a dock somewhere. Even at my age, which is a year older than DT, the question of which is the thug in any of those situations is seriously debatable. Trump hires people who hire people who hire thugs. He himself is about as thuggish as a mimosa blossom.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:38:39pm

re: #219 Eclectic Cyborg

So this states climate pact thing…could the Federal government just say “fuck you guys” and shut that down or no?

No. Interstate compacts are explicitly allowed in the Constitution. (Hence the push for an interstate compact to neuter the Electoral College.)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:39:07pm

I mean aside from humantiarian reasons, I’m also pro immigrant because I’m pro my palate. I like to eat and try new food. IT’s funny actually. Maybe a year before my brother started dating his eventual wife, I tried a Peruvian restaurant and fell in love with Lomo Saltado and then sure enough my brother dates a Peruvian, marries her, and now ahs a child with her.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:39:32pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

Trump is a thug.

In other news, water i… . aw, screw it.

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Bear  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:39:40pm

Halibut burger and slaw on the side. My Friday lunch special.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:39:41pm

re: #243 whitebeach

Come on, Charles. A thug is a guy who physically scares you in a bar or an alley or on a dock somewhere. Even at my age, which is a year older than DT, the question of which is the thug in any of those situations is seriously debatable. Trump hires people who hire people who hire thugs. He himself is about as thuggish as a mimosa blossom.

Upding for Mimosa Blossom.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:40:11pm

Seeing more and more of this shit. In Colorado.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:40:17pm

re: #245 HappyWarrior

My first date with Mrs. Fish, she took me to an authentic Mexican restaurant. At the time, it was a bit too much for my pasty white palate to take on, but she’s definitely gotten me accustomed to non-white foods by now. Living in the wild north country has been good for me.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:40:43pm

re: #244 Anymouse

No. Interstate compacts are explicitly allowed in the Constitution. (Hence the push for an interstate compact to neuter the Electoral College.)

But interstate compacts require the consent of Congress.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:42:02pm

re: #238 HappyWarrior

REason 164778886 why the never Trumpers are frauds.

The pro-Trumpers are a damn cult. I still have hope for my senator Ben Sasse, but as an outlier in the GOP and a first-term senator, the political pressure from within the GOP has to be pretty heavy on him.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:42:08pm

re: #250 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My first date with Mrs. Fish, she took me to an authentic Mexican restaurant. At the time, it was a bit too much for my pasty white palate to take on, but she’s definitely gotten me accustomed to non-white foods by now. Living in the wild north country has been good for me.

Yeah real Mexican is so much better than what I call fast food Mexican. I mean the latter don’t get me wrong, I’m not against eating it but if a place has corn tortillas and sells tortas, I know it’s a good place.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:42:37pm

re: #252 Anymouse

The pro-Trumpers are a damn cult. I still have hope for my senator Ben Sasse, but as an outlier in the GOP and a first-term senator, the political pressure from within the GOP has to be pretty heavy on him.

I will give him credit. I do wish he would actually vote against Trump’s cabinet noms though.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:44:00pm

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Yeah real Mexican is so much better than what I call fast food Mexican. I mean the latter don’t get me wrong, I’m not against eating it but if a place has corn tortillas and sells tortas, I know it’s a good place.

It’s definitely not Tex-Mex. Toxic Hell won’t prepare you for eating at a real Mexican restaurant.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:44:34pm

We have a Mafia Boss for a President and not a very smart Mafia boss at that.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:44:53pm

re: #255 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s definitely not Tex-Mex. Toxic Hell won’t prepare you for eating at a real Mexican restaurant.

Yeah people forget that there’s a Tex in front of Tex-Mex heh. I mean Tex-Mex is good but man I tried beef tongue tacos once and they were go good.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:45:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:45:19pm

re: #256 Eclectic Cyborg

We have a Mafia Boss for a President and not a very smart Mafia boss at that.

We elected a Fredo who thinks he’s Michael or Vito.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:45:33pm

To really understand what is meant by “states rights”, let’s look at the following week from the Abbeville Press:

Be sure to read the editor’s column on the left, “Emancipation and Negro Suffrage.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:45:43pm

re: #258 jaunte

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:46:18pm

We did some amazing high cuisine Mexican food in Mexico City. Oh man, I still remember that meal and it’s coming up on ten years.

A lot of the Mexican around here is either taquerias or orange cheese, but there’s a few places starting to break the mold. A lot of them tend to veer into fusion, though.

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CleverToad  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:46:32pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:46:47pm

re: #261 HappyWarrior

The answer to that is when their base turns on him.

A lot of people are going to be dying from lack of health insurance before they begin to wake up.

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BigPapa  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:46:48pm

This may make you a little sappy:

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:47:19pm

re: #251 Timothy Watson

But interstate compacts require the consent of Congress.

True. However, that still doesn’t prevent states such as Massachusetts or California from agreeing to the principals in the Climate Accord and simply following them.

An Interstate Compact (such as the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact, an agreement entered into to try to control cratering gasoline prices in 1935) is a framework of agreements intended to be binding law on the states in the compact.

A climate compact between states that want to enter it doesn’t have to be binding on those states - it is a voluntary agreement and not subject to Congressional approval.

google.com

Google has a doodle up today with sewing items that move around and create a Gay Pride flag.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:48:47pm

re: #264 jaunte

A lot of people are going to be dying from lack of health insurance before they begin to wake up.

And they’ll need to blame him.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:49:44pm

Trump for better use of the word has created a cult of personality. It actually and man I wish Sergey were here to give his two cents as a Russian but it reminds me how poor, peasant Christian Russians thought the Czar was their friend and had their interests at heart.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:50:05pm

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:51:31pm

re: #269 Eclectic Cyborg

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:52:08pm

re: #260 freetoken

To really understand what is meant by “states rights”, let’s look at the following week from the Abbeville Press:
Be sure to read the editor’s column on the left, “Emancipation and Negro Suffrage.”

It will not display on my computer. I get about 12” of space I have to scroll past. I’m guessing it isn’t particularly nice, though.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:53:07pm

re: #271 Anymouse

It’s a pdf. Open it in another tab, or download it and open it in anything that can view pdfs.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:56:21pm

re: #215 whitebeach

Me too! But I can also get barbecued chicken, fish, pork, or shrimp (although not New Orleans style). Isn’t life in the South a perpetual festival of new tastes and new ideas?

Whenever I go back I eat fish. Grouper, red snapper & hopefully pompano. Whatever we can’t get out on the West coast. It is soooooo much better, I miss it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2017 • 7:59:41pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:01:18pm

re: #272 freetoken

It’s a pdf. Open it in another tab, or download it and open it in anything that can view pdfs.

I don’t see anything to click on to open. Clicked all over the comment, but nada.

Maybe if I unplug my computer and plug it back in again. /s

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:03:37pm
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nines09  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:03:56pm

re: #243 whitebeach

Lots of little old men who sit in parks and play dominos have people murdered for various reasons. Just because they are neither big or scary, they are not thugs? Nope. Trump is as much a thug as a mob capo or a street hood. That he has others do his work only makes him that much more dangerous. Good killers never look the part. Trump is a thug. Here’s what thugs do.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:04:06pm

re: #275 Anymouse

View my comment in it’s own tab. There should be an image of the page. The upper right of the image should have a roll-over of a menu icon, to pop-out the pdf.

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retired cynic  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:04:39pm

re: #275 Anymouse

It does not open for me, either, but, if you hover over it, and see a + mark, just keep clicking on that until it is large enough to read.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:04:44pm

re: #275 Anymouse

In the upper right of the pdf you should see a square with an arrow pointing right upward. Click that and it’ll open the pdf in a new window. Right click anywhere on it and ‘save as’ if you want to read it in a separate pdf reader.

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whitebeach  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:05:07pm

re: #262 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We did some amazing high cuisine Mexican food in Mexico City. Oh man, I still remember that meal and it’s coming up on ten years.

A lot of the Mexican around here is either taquerias or orange cheese, but there’s a few places starting to break the mold. A lot of them tend to veer into fusion, though.

Diana Kennedy. She taught us that Mexican cuisine is definitely not Taco Bell. Or even Tex-Mex. Or even high New Mexico green chile sauce stuff. Or any of that. Any more than Cajun food is all about jambalaya and crawfish pie.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:05:17pm

Maybe I can’t open the PDF because of the cross-site scripting error this page gives me (which I wrote about at #42). Maybe it’s the upcoming total eclipse of the sun. Maybe I need to feed the hamster that turns the wheel that drives my computer’s disc.

Dunno.

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KGxvi  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:05:27pm

re: #204 HappyWarrior

Hahahhaa so true. Do they even listen to themeslves talk?

In fairness, the probability that none of them know WW’s origin story is approaching certainty. They probably know the costume an so that triggers a “Murka fuck yeah” response. Then again, one would also assume that someone who was a professional journalist would research the issue before engaging in such drivel

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:06:44pm

re: #283 KGxvi

In fairness, the probability that none of them know WW’s origin story is approaching certainty. They probably know the costume an so that triggers a “Murka fuck yeah” response. Then again, one would also assume that someone who was a professional journalist would research the issue before engaging in such drivel

Well there’s the problem. They are neither professional nor journalists at FNC.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:07:16pm

re: #278 freetoken

View my comment in it’s own tab. There should be an image of the page. The upper right of the image should have a roll-over of a menu icon, to pop-out the pdf.

I opened your comment in another tab. I got another blank page about 12” long.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:07:17pm

Saw Wonder Woman tonight. DC finally has a watchable movie that should be a big hit. Hope the Justice League keeps the momentum going.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:07:36pm

Finally, the following week, the Abbeville Press printed a report from the SC state convention:

SC definitely didn’t want blacks voting, defined “white” as anyone at least 7/8th caucasian, and the acting governor (and the newspaper editor) are hoping that the current situation (i.e., occupation by the US military) would be temporary.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:08:01pm

If you want the link to the LOC viewer site:
chroniclingamerica.loc.gov

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:08:47pm

re: #283 KGxvi

In fairness, the probability that none of them know WW’s origin story is approaching certainty. They probably know the costume an so that triggers a “Murka fuck yeah” response. Then again, one would also assume that someone who was a professional journalist would research the issue before engaging in such drivel

See also the song “Born in the USA” that conservatives lurve to play at political rallies without actually listening to the damn lyrics.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:10:27pm

re: #286 Big Beautiful Door

Saw Wonder Woman tonight. DC finally has a watchable movie that should be a big hit. Hope the Justice League keeps the momentum going.

I’m not very optimistic about Justice League from the trailers.

But WW is beautiful and I love it.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:10:53pm

I can understand why President Johnson felt the necessity to try and reintegrate the rebelling states quickly.

However, in hindsight I think not enough was done.

True, bigotry was rampant in the North also. But the so called “radicals” in the South, the abolitionists, really ought to have been more actively promoted by the Johnson administration as the future of the South. I would have even gone as far as opening up the entire South as a single un-Stated territory, and forced new States to form.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:13:22pm

re: #291 freetoken

I can understand why President Johnson felt the necessity to try and reintegrate the rebelling states quickly.

However, in hindsight I think not enough was done.

True, bigotry was rampant in the North also. But the so called “radicals” in the South, the abolitionists, really ought to have been more actively promoted by the Johnson administration as the future of the South. I would have even gone as far as opening up the entire South as a single un-Stated territory, and forced new States to form.

Johnson since we were talking about Batman earlier lived long enough to become the villain. His actions were heroic during the Civil War even if he was an unapologetic racist. But he failed during reconstruction for the reasons you state.

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scottslemmons  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:14:56pm

re: #290 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m not very optimistic about Justice League from the trailers.

But WW is beautiful and I love it.

They keep letting Zach Snyder run the franchise, and Snyder is just not a good director, and he doesn’t really have a lot of respect for DC’s characters. Wonder Woman is getting great reviews because a competent director who’s genuinely enthusiastic about the lead character.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:15:18pm

re: #288 freetoken

If you want the link to the LOC viewer site:
chroniclingamerica.loc.gov

Thanks. That was quite the read: Bide our time and we’ll get to introduce (what is now known as) Jim Crow.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:16:13pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

There was a lot of bigotry in the North, that made the abolition movement “radical” even in the North. The thing is, the radicals in the North prevailed politically, yet hardly were a revisioning of America.

Slavery is America’s first and major sin. Assuming we only encumber the US to what happened after 1776 and not the prior colonialism.

That our current President not only is ignorant of this but actively courts revisionists and bigots himself is I think the worse thing that has happened in American politics in my lifetime.

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scottslemmons  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:16:49pm

re: #293 scottslemmons

They keep letting Zach Snyder run the franchise, and Snyder is just not a good director, and he doesn’t really have a lot of respect for DC’s characters. Wonder Woman is getting great reviews because a competent director who’s genuinely enthusiastic about the lead character.

(I won’t get to see Wonder Woman ‘til it comes out on home release. The nearest theater is at least an hour away, and I’m not driving that far just to sit in the dark for two hours before driving back. So y’all spare a care for poor, pitiful me.)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:17:24pm

re: #295 freetoken

There was a lot of bigotry in the North, the made the abolition movement “radical” even in the North. The thing is, the radicals in the North prevailed politically, yet hardly were a revisioning of America.

Slavery is America’s first and major sin. Assuming we only encumber the US to what happened after 1776 and not the prior colonialism.

That our current President not only is ignorant of this but actively courts revisionists and bigots himself is I think the worse thing that has happened in American politics in my lifetime.

It’s by far one of the worst things to happen in a long time. Agreed about slavery too.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:19:52pm

re: #281 whitebeach

I’m cooking out of Diana Kennedy right now.

Just made pibil and sieved Yucatecan beans. I’m going to have to gear up for mole, but I suspect one of more of those is next (I’ve done a mole verde before); though some of the Oaxacan ingredients are hard to find. I learned to downright love epazote—used cooking with beans, it’s like a bay leaf but better, and used as an herb it’s way better than it’s gasoline aroma. I’m thinking about throwing in to Indian dal, just to see what happens.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:20:00pm

re: #291 freetoken

I can understand why President Johnson felt the necessity to try and reintegrate the rebelling states quickly.

However, in hindsight I think not enough was done.

True, bigotry was rampant in the North also. But the so called “radicals” in the South, the abolitionists, really ought to have been more actively promoted by the Johnson administration as the future of the South. I would have even gone as far as opening up the entire South as a single un-Stated territory, and forced new States to form.

I imagine if the Union had abolished the states (especially the original colonial states) and made them unorganised territory, it would have been rebellion round Deux.

I’m not a fan of the death penalty, but open rebellion in arms against the government is treason. Drag out a few thousand leaders of the Confederacy for trials (and if found guilty) execution might have had an affect as well.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:21:46pm

The hypocrisy of the Lost Causers is always soemthing to behold. They can never ever answer you if you ask them to explain why the CSA put down secession within its borders or why Stephens said pretty much “Yeah the reason why we exist is becaues of slavery.” The Lost Caust exists because people like Jubal Early and others wanted people like Robert E. Lee and Stonewall JAckson to enter secular sainthood to the people of the South.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:23:03pm

re: #295 freetoken

There was a lot of bigotry in the North, that made the abolition movement “radical” even in the North. The thing is, the radicals in the North prevailed politically, yet hardly were a revisioning of America.

Slavery is America’s first and major sin. Assuming we only encumber the US to what happened after 1776 and not the prior colonialism.

That our current President not only is ignorant of this but actively courts revisionists and bigots himself is I think the worse thing that has happened in American politics in my lifetime.

I was not old enough to be actively engaged during Nixon’s tenure in politics. However, I was during Reagan’s, and I could see this coming. I’m surprised it took so long.

When my wife and I were in Poland, several people there asked us why we were crazy enough to return to the USA, because they saw there imminent political unrest.

I will stand for my home as long as I can. My affirmation of enlistment and office aren’t just pretty words to me - they mean something.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:24:01pm

A momentous milestone.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:24:16pm

re: #293 scottslemmons

Snyder is infatuated with the darker, more cynical DC of stuff like Frank Miller’s Dark Knight Returns, and it shows in how he has done the DC films: a “realism” that’s actually just grim and edgy-for-edginess . He’s the guy that loved Watchmen but missed the substance.

Hence his terrible take on Superman.

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whitebeach  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:24:49pm

re: #277 nines09

Lots of little old men who sit in parks and play dominos have people murdered for various reasons. Just because they are neither big or scary, they are not thugs?
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No, they’re not “thugs,” though they may have got their start that way. They employ underbosses who oversee people who send thugs on specific tasks. Check the dictionary, and while you’re at it, the origin of the word “thug.”

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:25:53pm

re: #302 Anymouse

Trump is what George Wallace could have been, if the latter had lived during a time of celebrity reality TV and had gotten a celebrity following like Trump.

Trump is simply all the old bigotry that has been pancaked over by lots of television make-up artistry.

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whitebeach  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:28:38pm

re: #298 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

I’m cooking out of Diana Kennedy right now.

Just made pibil and sieved Yucatecan beans. I’m going to have to gear up for mole, but I suspect one of more of those is next (I’ve done a mole verde before); though some of the Oaxacan ingredients are hard to find. I learned to downright love epazote—used cooking with beans, it’s like a bay leaf but better, and used as an herb it’s way better than it’s gasoline aroma. I’m thinking about throwing in to Indian dal, just to see what happens.

See, this is what kills me. In New York, I could find most Mexican spices and other dry ingredients. Where I live now, no chance. Yeah, the Net, but you really want to walk in the store and buy what you need for the dish you’re cooking.

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prairiefire  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:30:27pm

re: #306 freetoken

Those folks siccing German shepherds on black protestors and screaming at little kids just trying to go to school, they’re still here.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:30:41pm

Binged watched The Young Pope with my HBO trial-week on Prime.

Click to Reveal

I think it peaked at the end of the 2nd episode, with the first address to the then-stunned crowd.

Overall, I give it a thumbs up for videography and soundtrack, and some of the supporting actors are quite engaging.

The ending seemed a bit lame. I read where a second season may eventually be made, but I think that will be superfluous.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:31:01pm
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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:33:40pm

re: #307 whitebeach

See, this is what kills me. In New York, I could find most Mexican spices and other dry ingredients. Where I live now, no chance. Yeah, the Net, but you really want to walk in the store and buy what you need for the dish you’re cooking.

Wonkette did an article about Penzey’s Spices roughly a month ago that got my wife’s attention. It seems that company has everything and it’s genetic mutation. She ordered about ten tonnes of spices from them (all the stuff you can’t get here).

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:34:41pm

re: #307 whitebeach

I’ve gotten really lucky in that I’ve got a great “Asian” market that’s stretched from Chinese to cover Indian, Middle Eastern, SE Asian, and Mexican. As time has passed, the Mexican selection has gotten better and better—cactus pears and paddles, fresh epazote, all your basic fresh and dried chiles in bulk. But there’s a few things that just don’t turn up, and I don’t know enough about how the recipe supposed to taste to know of a substitute.

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plansbandc  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:35:18pm

re: #247 Bear

WANT!!!!!

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meteor  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:35:26pm

re: #116 gocart mozart

This is the best book ever.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:37:19pm

re: #308 prairiefire

Those folks siccing German shepherds on black protestors and screaming at little kids just trying to go to school, they’re still here.

Norfolk, VA was still fighting school integration when I was stationed in Virginia Beach in the Eighties.

Isle of Wight County disestablished its public school system rather than integrate, then slugged out court cases for years over it. (Fiscal conservatism.)

Nearly all those Protestant private schools in Dixie (and some in the North) were set up to maintain segregation. (Another reason I am not fond of religion.)

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:38:21pm

Meanwhile, south of the non-existent Wall, luchadors live from Arena Mexico:

clarosports.com

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scottslemmons  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:40:50pm

re: #304 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Snyder is infatuated with the darker, more cynical DC of stuff like Frank Miller’s Dark Knight Returns, and it shows in how he has done the DC films: a “realism” that’s actually just grim and edgy-for-edginess . He’s the guy that loved Watchmen but missed the substance.

Hence his terrible take on Superman.

Yup. Warner’s lets him do what he wants because they really don’t seem to understand superheroes. :/

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:40:59pm
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prairiefire  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:43:05pm

re: #318 Anymouse

I hope George is right. My city is so segregated I didn’t have any Jewish friends until the World Wide Web.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:44:16pm

re: #304 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Snyder is infatuated with the darker, more cynical DC of stuff like Frank Miller’s Dark Knight Returns, and it shows in how he has done the DC films: a “realism” that’s actually just grim and edgy-for-edginess . He’s the guy that loved Watchmen but missed the substance.

Hence his terrible take on Superman.

Batman is SUPPOSED TO BE dark. Not Superman, though. I mean, “Truth, Justice, and the American Way” is so positive as to be corny. Batman Vs Superman was just UNRELENTINGLY dark.

I was talking to Hawaii Bro about the DC TV universe. He said the reason he likes Supergirl and doesn’t watch the others is that it retains its optimism, while the rest of the shows are too dark.

You make good comic movies when you stay true to the franchise.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:46:10pm
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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:47:46pm

re: #319 prairiefire

I hope George is right. My city is so segregated I didn’t have any Jewish friends until the World Wide Web.

I am unaware of any Jews or Muslims in my town (or my hometown).

While I was in the Navy, though, another story. Much more diverse.

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CleverToad  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:49:32pm

re: #269 Eclectic Cyborg

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:52:04pm

If you like antique cars:

Sugar Valley Rally Teams Take to the Road (goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald), with lots of photos.

You won’t find anything critical of the administration in my newspaper though. Never. Doesn’t happen.

Top article is James Mattis claiming North Korea is a clear and present danger to the world.
starherald.com

Perhaps someone needs to start a “Radio Free America” station aimed at the High Plains.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:53:07pm

Bill Maher is trending on Twitter. What stupid ugly offensive sludge did he spew tonight?

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:54:11pm

re: #325 teleskiguy

Bill Maher is trending on Twitter. What stupid ugly offensive sludge did he spew tonight?

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:54:11pm

re: #320 Blind Frog Belly White

The WB angst formula is…meh. But I’d say that “Legends of Tomorrow” is showing signs of leaning into its campness and weirdness, at least in its second season, and it’s to the show’s benefit.

Weird thing is, I kind of like the only moderately-dark Batman of “The Animated Series” and “Justice League” where Batman has human moments.

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scottslemmons  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:55:32pm

re: #320 Blind Frog Belly White

Batman is SUPPOSED TO BE dark. Not Superman, though. I mean, “Truth, Justice, and the American Way” is so positive as to be corny. Batman Vs Superman was just UNRELENTINGLY dark.

I was talking to Hawaii Bro about the DC TV universe. He said the reason he likes Supergirl and doesn’t watch the others is that it retains its optimism, while the rest of the shows are too dark.

You make good comic movies when you stay true to the franchise.

This, this, one billion times.

Grant Morrison wrote a book called “Supergods,” a combination of autobiography and history of superheroes. One of the big takeaways I got from it was that you can do grim-and-gritty superheroes and make ‘em work — “Watchmen” and “The Dark Knight Returns” are legitimately great comics — but superheroes work best as aspirational works, where the characters are optimistic, heroic, and inspire others, and you have to go back to that model eventually or the stories fall to pieces. Marvel’s films get that; DC’s films, so far, haven’t.

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:55:43pm

re: #326 Anymouse

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:56:51pm

re: #329 Targetpractice

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:58:26pm

re: #329 Targetpractice

Uggh. Can’t stand Maher.

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plansbandc  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:58:48pm

I loathe Maher. Have for years. Not the least bit surprised by additional bigotry from him. Hope he gets canned.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:59:28pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 2, 2017 • 8:59:46pm

re: #328 scottslemmons

Morrison’s done amazing stuff pushing for bright and optimistic superheroes as interesting, and jabbing at all the ways that “dark” becomes lazy. All-Star Superman is just the best.

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BigPapa  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:00:17pm

First Griffin, now Maher. Our liberal leaders have fallen from grace, all is lost.

Yeah, fuck that.

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:01:18pm

re: #335 BigPapa

Maher ain’t a liberal and has pushed shit against democratic values for a while. Eff him.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:01:28pm

re: #331 JordanRules

Uggh. Can’t stand Maher.

I still maintain Mr. Maher’s best work was Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:02:41pm

re: #333 jaunte

Wait for them to start asking for that on US passport applications next.

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:02:46pm

Maher, the guy who on any other given day would wig the fuck out over Muslims?

Yeah, I’m not taking any responsibility for that asshole’s actions.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:04:56pm

re: #338 Anymouse

Or voter registrations.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:05:18pm
The new questions, part of an effort to tighten vetting of would-be visitors to the United States, was approved on May 23 by the Office of Management and Budget despite criticism from a range of education officials and academic groups during a public comment period.

Critics argued that the new questions would be overly burdensome, lead to long delays in processing and discourage international students and scientists from coming to the United States.

Under the new procedures, consular officials can request all prior passport numbers, five years’ worth of social media handles, email addresses and phone numbers and 15 years of biographical information including addresses, employment and travel history.

reuters.com

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:05:38pm

The Maher thing is just for attention, and he did it in a mocking fashion which is clear enough.

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William Lewis  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:06:05pm

re: #321 Anymouse

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:07:45pm

re: #342 freetoken

The Maher thing is just for attention, and he did it in a mocking fashion which is clear enough.

Doesn’t matter. Conservatives will still claim:

a) Maher’s a liberal, and his attitude reflects all liberals.
b) Liberals are the real racists.
c) Conservatives are unfairly treated (they get fired - that’s already happening).

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:07:47pm

re: #336 JordanRules

He’s a liberal now, because the point of the umbrage isn’t to accurately assess what was done wrong, it’s to appropriate the empty shell of politeness and good behavior as a way of attacking their opponents.

It will always be the fault of liberals, because that’s who they need to be at fault, because the axiom is “liberals are always the bad guys.” This is what their cultural basis (that keeps getting them elected) runs on: constant re-assertion of the inherent wrongness and Wrongness of the other side.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:09:18pm

re: #345 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Or shorter: It’s projection, always.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:09:30pm

re: #344 Anymouse

But those folk are the same ones who want to claim today’s Democrats are the racists because the “Democrats” in the 1860’s were the slavery proponents.

The neo-confederates will do anything and everything to avoid real acknowledgement of the past and the present.

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I cannot.  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:11:10pm

Leftist Nerd Twitter is awesome Twitter.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:11:10pm

re: #346 Anymouse

Or shorter: It’s projection, always.

So the amazing new level of projection is that every time Trump talks about how the US isn’t taken seriously by others, yadda yadda…it’s all basically a story about how he feels about how he’s seen by everybody else.

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bratwurst  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:12:46pm
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Let me tell you how much time and energy I am going to be putting into discussing this incident, parsing it for intent and defending Bill Maher from the inevitable shit storm he is going to face from both sides:

None. At all.

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Anymouse  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:14:19pm

Meanwhile in conservative fantasy land:

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wheat-dogg  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:14:59pm

re: #19 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You can get the entire 1960s series on Blu-ray now and I’m thinking I’m going to ask for it for Christmas.

I am clearly not DC’s target audience with the whole grim-dark thing.

Have you watched any of the DC TV series? The darkest is Gotham, but it borders on self-parody sometimes. Supergirl is the most light-hearted, and it has a Superman based on the Christopher Reeve model, who makes occasional appearances.

I’m probably not their target audience, being an old, but I don’t care.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:16:57pm

I’ll regret prolly this.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:17:34pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:19:41pm

re: #348 I cannot.

I just lost it so hard.

re: #352 wheat-dogg

Have you watched any of the DC TV series? The darkest is Gotham, but it borders on self-parody sometimes. Supergirl is the most light-hearted, and it has a Superman based on the Christopher Reeve model, who makes occasional appearances.

I’m probably not their target audience, being an old, but I don’t care.

I haven’t. I’m really not a TV person. When I collect show recommendations it ends up being for mr. klys because he watches some. He did watch Gotham but was more ambivalent about it, I think.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:19:48pm

re: #353 Dave In Austin

His twitter stream is nothing but the usual white-grievance theatre.

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:22:56pm

re: #351 Anymouse

Meanwhile in conservative fantasy land:

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prairiefire  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:24:55pm

re: #356 freetoken

His twitter stream is nothing but the usual white-grievance theatre.

It is theatre, that’s a good description.

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prairiefire  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:27:07pm

re: #357 Targetpractice

Coal ash isn’t regulated. KCP&L is contracted to use the waste ash from the Iatan plant to fill in limestone bluffs that have development on top. I’m sure that will be alright.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:28:32pm

re: #328 scottslemmons

This, this, one billion times.

Grant Morrison wrote a book called “Supergods,” a combination of autobiography and history of superheroes. One of the big takeaways I got from it was that you can do grim-and-gritty superheroes and make ‘em work — “Watchmen” and “The Dark Knight Returns” are legitimately great comics — but superheroes work best as aspirational works, where the characters are optimistic, heroic, and inspire others, and you have to go back to that model eventually or the stories fall to pieces. Marvel’s films get that; DC’s films, so far, haven’t.

The thing about the DC TV universe is that even the darkest show - Arrow, BY FAR - is still largely about Oliver Queen’s redemption

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wheat-dogg  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:29:29pm

re: #139 jaunte

Wait ‘til they find out the Green Lantern organization accepts aliens.

Humans are the minority, like a handful out of 3,600.

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Joe Bacon  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:37:04pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 2, 2017 • 9:57:20pm

MAN, I should’ve started making my sign way earlier.

Just finished.

It is kick ass.

For those who missed it - here’s the idea, but i did the letters etc. myself.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2017 • 4:11:56am

re: #351 Anymouse

We should not hinder the growth potential of #coal, #oil, #nuclear, and other natural resources found in the U.S.

note that the sun also shines and the wind also blows across our fair land. But they cannot be as easily monopolized by a few corporations

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Major Tom  Jun 3, 2017 • 11:56:20am

re: #328 scottslemmons

Supergods was very good.

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Major Tom  Jun 3, 2017 • 12:00:58pm

re: #367 Major Tom

Supergods was very good.

Oops, I was talking about “Super God”
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The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ...
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