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Kragar  Jun 4, 2017 • 10:14:09pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 4, 2017 • 10:17:40pm

“David, kill the Queen!”

“What?!”

“The jukebox!”

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2017 • 10:27:12pm

Continuing from the last thread:

re: #406 scottslemmons

Moving too far out of the state probably won’t be an option for me. But good to hear not everyone’s obsessed with those degrees. The local library doesn’t even seem to want me volunteering with ‘em. :/

In a lot of areas around here, tiny town libraries are the connexion to the outside world. The state pays for access to medical, historical, geographic, agricultural, and other databases free for use by libraries. In many towns around here the library is the only Internet connexion. Hunting and fishing licenses are obtained through public libraries (really). Librarians were all trained as ACA Navigators when that program was run up to help people apply for health insurance on the Federal exchange.

Thus the state is more interested in “competent” rather than what letters appear in your degree.

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scottslemmons  Jun 4, 2017 • 10:36:16pm

re: #3 Anymouse

Continuing from the last thread:

In a lot of areas around here, tiny town libraries are the connexion to the outside world. The state pays for access to medical, historical, geographic, agricultural, and other databases free for use by libraries. In many towns around here the library is the only Internet connexion. Hunting and fishing licenses are obtained through public libraries (really). Librarians were all trained as ACA Navigators when that program was run up to help people apply for health insurance on the Federal exchange.

Thus the state is more interested in “competent” rather than what letters appear in your degree.

Well, I can alphabetize with the best of them, and have been known to shout at people about what books they should be reading (“The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet” by Becky Chambers! “Throne of the Crescent Moon” by Saladin Ahmed! “Binti” by Nnedi Okorafor!), so I’m sure I’d be a shoo-in.

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Targetpractice  Jun 4, 2017 • 10:38:59pm

re: #1 Kragar

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Despotic regimes always start this way: “Protecting” the people, whether it be from some outside “evil” or “from themselves.” Some will take power directly, but the most insidious ones are those that convince the people to surrender power willingly. Those survive by guilting the people, holding up that surrender of authority as a shield against any objections to their actions.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2017 • 10:39:16pm

Wikileaks Twitter feed is going all-in on CT that Saudi Arabia broke off ties with Qatar after document dump of Hillary Clinton’s stuff showing Saudi Arabia and Qatar jointly fund ISIS. Meanwhile, they are also claiming something something big donation to Clinton Foundation by Qatar so Clinton must be involved in today’s events.

A tracert from my router to Wikileaks shows a time of nearly ten seconds and goes through Russian routers.

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Kragar  Jun 4, 2017 • 10:40:47pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

Despotic regimes always start this way: “Protecting” the people, whether it be from some outside “evil” or “from themselves.” Some will take power directly, but the most insidious ones are those that convince the people to surrender power willingly. Those survive by guilting the people, holding up that surrender of authority as a shield against any objections to their actions.

“Certain liberties must be curtailed until the end of the current crisis.”

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 4, 2017 • 10:43:54pm

I get the feeling this week is going to be an unbelievable shitshow.

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Targetpractice  Jun 4, 2017 • 10:44:25pm

re: #7 Kragar

“Certain liberties must be curtailed until the end of the current crisis.”

“Once the crisis has passed, we will willingly return power to the elected authorities.”

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2017 • 10:46:43pm

Clueless stooge in State Department says what?

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2017 • 10:49:08pm

LOL

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Targetpractice  Jun 4, 2017 • 10:49:21pm

re: #10 Anymouse

Clueless stooge in State Department says what?

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Message from our SecState to Saudi-led mob:

Willy Wonka — Stop, Don’t, Come Back.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2017 • 10:50:20pm
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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2017 • 10:51:42pm
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Kragar  Jun 4, 2017 • 11:00:51pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 4, 2017 • 11:06:29pm

A 31-year-old Californian climbed up El Capitan in Yosemite National Park using only his hands and feet on Saturday. Did it in just under four hours.

To this day well-equipped climbing parties spend *days* climbing El Capitan, setting up anchored cots to spend the night on the way up.

Blows my mind.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 4, 2017 • 11:08:45pm

re: #14 Anymouse

It’s the confluence of every wingnut’s worst nightmares.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2017 • 11:21:16pm

Not sure what to make of this, because it fits into the meme floating around some months ago where some (unnamed) source claimed Donald Trump would choose to run as a Republican over Democrat because of the gullibility of conservatives.

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2017 • 11:25:28pm

Ana Navarro on why she is still a member of the Republican Party:

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freetoken  Jun 4, 2017 • 11:31:45pm
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wheat-dogg  Jun 4, 2017 • 11:33:44pm

re: #18 Anymouse

Not sure what to make of this, because it fits into the meme floating around some months ago where some (unnamed) source claimed Donald Trump would choose to run as a Republican over Democrat because of the gullibility of conservatives.

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There is a quote — directly from Trump’s mouth supposedly — where he says Republicans are stupid, so if he ran for president as a Republican, he would probably get the nomination.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 4, 2017 • 11:37:33pm

re: #9 Targetpractice

“Once the crisis has passed, we will willingly return power to the elected authorities.”

“Free and fair elections will be held as soon as everyone learns how to play a musical instrument.”

( I cribbed that from WKRP In Cincinnati; it was a throwaway line from Dr. Johnny Fever that I always found funny as hell. )

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Anymouse  Jun 4, 2017 • 11:52:41pm
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Anymouse  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:10:38am
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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:26:26am

re: #23 Anymouse

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“Plans to shift infrastructure spending.” That’s a rather Orwellian way of looking at it. The more honest title would be “Trump to propose selling off public infrastructure to his buddies on Wall St.”

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Cheechako  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:35:41am

re: #25 Targetpractice

“Plans to shift infrastructure spending.” That’s a rather Orwellian way of looking at it. The more honest title would be “Trump to propose selling off public infrastructure to his buddies on Wall St.”

Yep…toll roads, bridges, and tunnels. Soon coming to your local neighborhood.

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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:40:33am

“I’m going to spend $1 trillion on infrastructure!”

“Awesome, Trump cares about the working class!”

“Oh wait, did I say I’d spend $1 trillion? Sorry, I meant I’ll spend $200 billion creating tax cuts and loans for my banking buddies to buy up public infrastructure. And make cities and states sell off more infrastructure to fund projects that will quickly stall due to lack of further funding.”

“Oh…well, I guess that’s something.”

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Kragar  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:44:32am
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Cheechako  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:45:32am

Do you want to fly with Air Traffic Control provided by the lowest bidder?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:50:33am

So, I wake up here in Europe and what’s one of the first things I see on the news? A major diplomatic crisis in the Gulf States that’s now risen to the level of expulsion of Qatari diplomats and nationals from Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the UAE, and Egypt’s getting into the act as well.

And of course, CENTCOM is located in Qatar as well. This is certainly a fine pickle, now isn’t it?

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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:06:51am

Gotta love their “privatization of air traffic control” bait and switch plan. It won’t cost anything…except the loans that businesses will take out to “build” this new “non-profit.” And by “build,” what they really mean is this “non-profit” will purchase the existing infrastructure using government-backed loans. Then the director of the “non-profit” will have a “fiduciary responsibility” to it. So a non-profit that will be expected to turn a profit, no doubt for the businesses who will have to “pay back” those loans from the government. Which means your ticket prices are gonna soar as this “non-profit” gouges the fuck out of the airlines.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:36:40am
Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates and Yemen have cut diplomatic ties with Qatar, accusing it of destabilising the region.

They say Qatar backs militant groups including so-called Islamic State (IS) and al-Qaeda, which Qatar has denied.

The Saudi state news agency SPA said Riyadh had closed its borders, severing land, sea and air contact with the tiny peninsula of Qatar.

Qatar called the decision “unjustified” and with “no basis in fact”.

The unprecedented move is being seen as a significant split between powerful Gulf countries, who are also close US allies.

It comes in the context of increased tensions between Gulf countries and their near-neighbour Iran. The Saudi statement accused Qatar of collaborating with Iranian-backed militias.

bbc.com

So the Saudis are claiming that Qatar is supporting both ISIS and al Qaeda (Sunnis) and Iranian-sponsored militias (Shiite)?

Can you say “bullshit”?

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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:38:32am

re: #32 Timothy Watson

bbc.com

So the Saudis are claiming that Qatar is supporting both ISIS and al Qaeda (Sunnis) and Iranian-sponsored militias (Shiite)?

Can you say “bullshit”?

Seems to fall into “the lady doth protest too much” territory.

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:49:56am

re: #33 Targetpractice

Is this going to be Trump’s first real international crisis for which to tweet?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:51:55am

re: #32 Timothy Watson

re: #33 Targetpractice

I wonder how you say, “Well, isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black” in Arabic?

(as per GoogleTranslate, it’s: ?هو أن لا وعاء يدعو الغلاية السوداء but I have no idea how accurate that is)

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:53:59am

re: #35 Dr Lizardo

Rarely can idioms translate so easily.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:58:30am

re: #36 freetoken

Rarely can idioms translate so easily.

I looked it up using my Google Fu and there is an Egyptian Arabic proverb for situations such as these: عريان الطيز يحب تأميز. which means, “someone with their ass exposed likes to criticize”.

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:09:27am

Continuing on with my assertion that the rise of Trump represents the existential and religious crises in our society, I’m digging once more into the origins of Christianity… and finding I am appreciating more and more that early Christian thinking was more about marrying Jewish ideas with what I’ll call a Walmart-version of Stoicism.

Now contemporary fundamentalist apologists seem to go all nuts when one brings up stoicism, but I think that alone is telling. Put simply, Seneca hits too close to home, touches too nearly the heart of Pauline teachings, and that makes fundamentalists uncomfortable.

I have asserted here before that the Gospels are variants of the writing down of plays. That is, the plays were not written first by a playwright, but rather that the displaced Jews who were of a mystical bent acted out their beliefs in plays, which eventually became the Advent and Easter/Passover plays that Christians around the world made central to their religious practice. That is why, indeed, the Gospels lend themselves so well to these plays, because that is how they started. Or rather the compilation that became the four Gospels started, them all being variants of each other.

Richard Carrier noted last year that it was likely Marcion and his opponents who crafted the first canons, making their choices of inclusion based as much on politics as anything else.

Thus the entire basis of Christianity is itself a product of politics - a way of finding consensus among disparate groups. Once enough small groups had coalesced around an acceptable compromise, the losing groups were winnowed out. This was well before Nicea.

So when today we see fundamentalists in this country rally around Trump, even though many people may think this an odd thing, it has plenty of historical precedence (even in American history, e.g. slavery, much less medieval or ancient history.)

The need to be secure overwhelms the need for accuracy or consistency. This is why so many Christian teachings are indeed self-contradictory (see even the Nicene creed.) Creeds are political creations to get a group together; creeds are not exercises in logic.

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:21:22am

Continuing on: the reason words are treated as magical is because of the power of knowledge. Knowledge is power, as the old saying goes, and writing is how to transfer knowledge across space-time.

For both the religious leaders returning from Babylon to the levant, and a few centuries later for the diaspora Jews of the 1st century AD, the need to compete with the writing of the Greek and and then Roman world was strong. It has been noted by many that the emergence of “Scripture” accompanies secular writings.

So today, after almost two centuries of critically dismantling Scriptures by the (increasingly atheistic) academics, the religious faithful are boxed in: on one side the physical and biological sciences, and on the other side the textual and historical criticisms of various Scriptures.

For anyone wanting to engage with the modern world, this brings about the direct conflict between modernity and traditional religions.

This is what drives our contemporary social angsts, worldwide. Whether the fundamentalist grifters in America backing Trump, or sectarian violence in Islam, or the problem of fundamentalist nationalist Hinduism, and so forth… the key existential problem is how to keep one’s beliefs in light of the modern world which ruthlessly wants to deconstruct every belief into molecular human initiative and emotion.

If modernity does succeed in truly decreasing the role of religion, then the scale of mourning will be titanic, given the death of people as well as beliefs going without salve.

This is the problem of Earth, 2017.

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Jay C  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:22:23am

re: #32 Timothy Watson

bbc.com

So the Saudis are claiming that Qatar is supporting both ISIS and al Qaeda (Sunnis) and Iranian-sponsored militias (Shiite)?

Can you say “bullshit”?

Unfortunately, while the reek of bullshit is unmistakable here, ISTR that taking action against “Iranian-sponsored militias” is the Saudis’ main excuse for their bloody, inhumane and ongoing campaign against Yemen. I think there is also the issue of which puppet/stooge government the KSA wants in power, but they always cite Iranian “meddling” at fault for whatever atrocities they feel excusing.
Only the main difference is that there aren’t any US troops in Yemen. Like I said last thread, SRSLY? WTF???

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:28:56am

re: #40 Jay C

Maybe the Saudis believe they have finally found a friend in Trump, to wage a war against the Shiites?

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:36:05am

Remember that picture, of Trump with his hand on a glowing globe, along with our supposed friends in the KSA?

Are we about to find out what the real story was behind that symbolism?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:45:06am

re: #40 Jay C

re: #41 freetoken

re: #42 freetoken

I have no idea what the motives behind this are, but I do know that the fact that they’re all closing their borders to Qatar, expelling Qatari diplomats and demanding that all Qatari nationals leave within 14 days and quite openly accusing Qatar of supporting and financing Islamic State and Al Qaeda - despite extremely close historic links - shows that some serious shit has gone down behind the scenes. And I wonder what that shit was.

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:48:20am

re: #43 Dr Lizardo

…. shows that some serious shit has gone down behind the scenes. And I wonder what that shit was.

The Illuminati?

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:51:13am

Getting back to early manuscripts - I suspect that somewhere in the sands of Egypt still lay things to be discovered. Hidden things that once see the light of day yet again, may stir up some interesting ideas.

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Jay C  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:53:18am

re: #41 freetoken

Maybe the Saudis believe they have finally found a friend in Trump, to wage a war against the Shiites?

Maybe. Daniel Larison at TAC linked to a couple of analyses last Friday, though I don’t think he (or anybody) expected a diplomatic crisis to blow up this quickly. It’s complex (like most things in the Arab world), but the short version seems to be:

1. The Saudis are flexing their political/military muscles
2. They are making Iran the Designated Enemy
3. Some of KSA’s regional partners (like Qatar, and, more importantly, Pakistan) aren’t thrilled with pushing item 2.
4. Qatar is first in line to get pushback re item 3.

Oh, and a subtext here (at least AFAICT) is that the US isn’t going to be of any serious help here, as they think Trump is an idiot. An easily-played idiot. And an easily-played idiot who will swallow any BS line about the Great Persian Boogeyman.

Fun times.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:56:00am

“We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait Qatar.”

(Original quote from April Glaspie, United States Ambassador to Iraq prior to the Gulf War, to Saddam Hussein.)

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:00:14am

re: #46 Jay C

Maybe. Daniel Larison at TAC linked to a couple of analyses last Friday, though I don’t think he (or anybody) expected a diplomatic crisis to blow up this quickly. It’s complex (like most things in the Arab world), but the short version seems to be:

1. The Saudis are flexing their political/military muscles
2. They are making Iran the Designated Enemy
3. Some of KSA’s regional partners (like Qatar, and, more importantly, Pakistan) aren’t thrilled with pushing item 2.
4. Qatar is first in line to get pushback re item 3.

Oh, and a subtext here (at least AFAICT) is that the US isn’t going to be of any serious help here, as they think Trump is an idiot. An easily-played idiot. And an easily-played idiot who will swallow any BS line about the Great Persian Boogeyman.

Fun times.

I wonder how Turkey will react.

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:00:39am

re: #46 Jay C

… they think Trump is an idiot. An easily-played idiot. And an easily-played idiot who will swallow any BS line about the Great Persian Boogeyman.

Are not those assertions self-evident?

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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:08:43am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

I wonder how Turkey will react.

I imagine it will depend on who makes Erdogan the best offer.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:09:09am

re: #39 freetoken

This is what drives our contemporary social angsts, worldwide. Whether the fundamentalist grifters in America backing Trump, or sectarian violence in Islam, or the problem of fundamentalist nationalist Hinduism, and so forth… the key existential problem is how to keep one’s beliefs in light of the modern world which ruthlessly wants to deconstruct every belief into molecular human initiative and emotion.

If modernity does succeed in truly decreasing the role of religion, then the scale of mourning will be titanic, given the death of people as well as beliefs going without salve.

This is the problem of Earth, 2017.

Science is about how we came about. Religion is about why we were created. A lot of people get the two concepts intermingled.

But nonetheless, if you insist on a literal interpretation of the Scriptures, then you must reject not only science, but also history and even logic, as they often contradict themselves.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:11:56am

Maldives has now severed all diplomatic ties with Qatar.

english.alarabiya.net

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:13:59am

re: #52 Dr Lizardo

Money.

Part of me wonders how natural gas resources, ports, and land come into play here…

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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:15:42am

So the House of Saud, figuring it either has Trump’s support or at least no worry about him, has decided to set itself up as the regional power broker, with Iran as the designated enemy and any country that won’t get with the program subject to diplomatic and economic isolation.

Gee, thank God we didn’t elect Hillary, huh?////////

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:17:23am

Never doubt the speed of Wikipedia:

2017 Qatar diplomatic crisis

In 2017, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt, Yemen, the United Arab Emirates, Libya, and the Maldives[1] cut off diplomatic ties with Qatar over an ongoing diplomatic dispute […]

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:18:54am

I don’t know about this wikipedia assertion:

On 3 June 2017, the Twitter account of Bahraini foreign minister Khalid bin Ahmed Al Khalifa was hacked in a Qatarese cyberattack.[6]This led to Saudi Arabia, UAE, Yemen, Egypt and Bahrain cutting diplomatic ties with Qatar on 5 June 2017.[7][8]

How could a simple twitter hijacking lead to this?

Is Twitter the end of all things?

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:20:29am

One wrong tweet, and the world ends.

Perhaps we should rethink the need for this thing called Twitter?

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:20:46am

Especially given who likes to tweet at 4am …

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Scout  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:20:54am

Josephine Baker was one amazing human being.

Among all her other accomplishments, her daring as a spy during World War II was incredible.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:27:43am

re: #59 Scout

Josephine Baker was one amazing human being.

Among all her other accomplishments, her daring as a spy during World War II was incredible.

Yep, and she is also

The only American-born woman to receive full French military honors at her funeral, Baker’s funeral was the occasion of a huge procession. She received a full Roman Catholic funeral that was held at L’Église de la Madeleine; after a family service at Saint-Charles Church in Monte Carlo,[62] Baker was interred at Monaco’s Cimetière de Monaco.[58]

I don’t remember where I read it, but it was said that “Josephine Baker’s funeral brought the streets of Paris to a standstill……a fitting legacy for the Bronze Venus.”

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Jay C  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:28:53am

re: #56 freetoken

I don’t know about this wikipedia assertion:

How could a simple twitter hijacking lead to this?

Is Twitter the end of all things?

To answer the second question first: no.

For the first one, though: it seems (from what I’ve instantly read up on) like the Saudis have looking for excuses to push Qatar back in line, and claiming disses on Twitter is just a handy one.
re: #54 Targetpractice

So the House of Saud, figuring it either has Trump’s support or at least no worry about him, has decided to set itself up as the regional power broker, with Iran as the designated enemy and any country that won’t get with the program subject to diplomatic and economic isolation.

Gee, thank God we didn’t elect Hillary, huh?////////

Sadly, I think you’ve nailed it.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:41:06am

Phone in the Crapper Alert!!!

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:41:28am

50 years ago today:
Operation Focus

Operation Focus (Hebrew: מבצע מוקד‎‎, Mivtza Moked) was the opening airstrike by Israel at the start of the Six-Day War in 1967. It is sometimes referred to as “Sinai Air Strike”. At 07:45 on June 5, 1967, the Israeli Air Force (IAF) under Maj. Gen. Mordechai Hod launched a massive airstrike that destroyed the majority of the Egyptian Air Force on the ground. By noon, the Egyptian, Jordanian and Syrian Air Forces, with about 450 aircraft, were destroyed. It was also very successful in disabling 18 airfields in Egypt, hindering Egyptian Air Force operations for the duration of the war, and remains one of the most successful air attack campaigns in military history.

Fewer than 200 Israeli aircraft took part in the strikes, of which 19 were lost. Worth noting: Not a single US made combat plane participated in the attacks, on either side. The IDF had used US planes from third country sources in earlier years but these, P-51s and B-17s, had long since been retired. All of Israel’s 1967 aircraft were of French origin. The first US jets, A-4 Skyhawks, arrived that fall.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:42:13am

re: #62 Dave In Austin

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:43:12am

The whole Qatar thing is turning into a mess lickety-split:

Some of the Middle East’s biggest airlines are suspending flights to Qatar as a major diplomatic crisis roils the region.

Etihad, Emirates and FlyDubai on Monday announced they are halting all flights in and out of Doha, the Qatari capital, starting Tuesday morning. The news comes after Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the UAE and Egypt said they have broken off relations with Qatar, accusing it of supporting terrorism.

The UAE government said it’s closing its airspace and seaports for Qataris and “banning all Qatari means of transportation.”

Qatar Airways, the country’s flag carrier, didn’t respond to requests seeking comment.

The Qatari government expressed its dismay at its neighbors’ moves to isolate it, calling the decision “unjustified and based on baseless allegations.”

There are around 40 flights a day to Doha from the UAE.

The sudden halt on air travel to and from Qatar is the latest blow to carriers in the region.

Emirates, Qatar Airways and Etihad were among 10 airlines on which the Trump administration imposed tough new restrictions in March. The carriers are now required to prevent passengers flying from their Middle East hubs to the United States from carrying almost all types of electronic devices in the cabin.

Monday’s crackdown on flights is part of a broader set of restrictions on travel involving Qatar and its citizens.

The UAE government said it’s giving Qatari diplomats 48 hours and Qatari residents and visitors 14 days to leave the UAE “for precautionary security reasons.” UAE citizens are also banned from traveling or transiting through Qatar.

money.cnn.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:44:39am

re: #64 Dave In Austin

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It’s amazing that he can Tweet and drop a deuce at the same time.

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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:50:09am

re: #65 Dr Lizardo

The whole Qatar thing is turning into a mess lickety-split:

money.cnn.com

The House of Saud tells Trump “This will combat terrorism” and he’ll go with it.

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:51:20am

re: #64 Dave In Austin

Ok, so the “travel ban” really is a travel ban.

Have we determined that for sure now?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:51:47am

re: #67 Targetpractice

The House of Saud tells Trump “This will combat terrorism” and he’ll go with it.

Yeah, and then presumably Mattis will then Trump, “Sir, CENTCOM is located in Qatar” and then who knows what ridiculous shit will happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:51:48am

re: #68 freetoken

Ok, so the “travel ban” really is a travel ban.

Have we determined that for sure now?

Until it gets shot down by the courts again…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:52:14am

re: #66 Dr Lizardo

It’s amazing that he can Tweet and drop a deuce at the same time.

equivalent activities

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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:54:08am

DOJ: “It’s not a ban, your honor.”

TRUMP: “The courts should support my travel ban…”

DOJ: “FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF…!!!!”

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Dave In Austin  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:56:47am

re: #66 Dr Lizardo

And…. Still straining…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:01:42am

re: #73 Dave In Austin

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image should show him holding his phone and tweeting

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:04:13am

re: #73 Dave In Austin

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He has literally no idea how much we scrutinize people coming to this country,

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:06:10am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

He has literally no idea how much we scrutinize people coming to this country,

His problem lies with the fact that we let them in at all…

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:06:56am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:08:05am

re: #76 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

His problem lies with the fact that we let them in at all…

Except the ones that make him money.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:15:29am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:15:48am

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Except the ones that make him money.

They get flown in and out of the country on special flights…

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meteor  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:18:38am

re: #11 Anymouse

Dogs are good.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:26:44am

re: #79 Nyet

Latuff has a butthurt over Wonder Woman.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:27:20am

re: #39 freetoken

At the risk of making broad generalizations, the Old World (with the exception of Russia, it seems) seems to be becoming more secular, in that religion is now more a social event rather than an abiding feature of daily life. The USA, meanwhile, seems divided between a largely secular urban populace and a largely religious rural and small town populace, neither of which seem to understand the other.

An anecdote now: I grew up on Long Island in a nominally Protestant home, but my mom was Lutheran and my dad Presbyterian and neither seemed inclined to go to church. So I never actually read the Bible until I was a teenager. I had friends who were Catholic, Jewish, Christian Scientist, and church-goers. We never talked religion. It was a personal thing that maybe only came up when Ann came to school with an ash smudge on her forehead or Daniel stayed home for Yom Kippur services.

Then I moved to Wyoming after college. As a reporter I had to interview some couple for some now-forgotten reason, and their question to me left me momentarily stunned. “Are you a Christian?” they asked.

It was the first time in my life that anyone felt it necessary to ask me my religion, and i soon realized that my attitude about it was definitely not shared in the vast interior of the USA.

(I said I was, by the way, as I judged it would be necessary to continue the interview productively.)

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:27:30am

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

Latuff has a butthurt over Wonder Woman.

Seems a lot of people are.

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meteor  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:28:36am
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meteor  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:29:36am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:32:26am

re: #46 Jay C

Maybe. Daniel Larison at TAC linked to a couple of analyses last Friday, though I don’t think he (or anybody) expected a diplomatic crisis to blow up this quickly. It’s complex (like most things in the Arab world), but the short version seems to be:

1. The Saudis are flexing their political/military muscles
2. They are making Iran the Designated Enemy
3. Some of KSA’s regional partners (like Qatar, and, more importantly, Pakistan) aren’t thrilled with pushing item 2.
4. Qatar is first in line to get pushback re item 3.

Oh, and a subtext here (at least AFAICT) is that the US isn’t going to be of any serious help here, as they think Trump is an idiot. An easily-played idiot. And an easily-played idiot who will swallow any BS line about the Great Persian Boogeyman.

Fun times.

Remember, Trump took special effort in condemning Iran specifically in his speechifying in Saudi Arabia. I wonder if the Saudis coached him on that point, or if they took his random thoughts as carte blanche to fuck with everyone in the MidEast.

Trump may have lit a long fuse leading to a major conflict.

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:36:35am

Since I was prattling about manuscripts…

James Tabor has a blog post in which he gives his summary of first century ossuary inscriptions in the possession of Israeli institutions:

The Names in the Talpiot Tombs: Considering all the Evidence

He printed out the ones of interest to his gig:

I’ve always been quite suspicious of him, in part because of his association with Jacobovici, who I think has too many agendas and they color his material.

Still, it’s worth noting that Tabor did provide this compilation of names on ossuaries. It doesn’t seem to me to materially change his assertions, but some people might be of interest in these things.

Mostly American Christians are taught that Tabor/Jacobovici are heretical. To me they simply seem opportunistic - there is more than one way to skin the religion cat.

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sagehen  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:41:04am

re: #63 Shiplord Kirel

50 years ago today:
Operation Focus

Fewer than 200 Israeli aircraft took part in the strikes, of which 19 were lost. Worth noting: Not a single US made combat plane participated in the attacks, on either side. The IDF had used US planes from third country sources in earlier years but these, P-51s and B-17s, had long since been retired. All of Israel’s 1967 aircraft were of French origin. The first US jets, A-4 Skyhawks, arrived that fall.

Why was it a 6-day war? On the 7th day God rested.
Why was it a 6-day war? They had to return the tanks to Hertz.
Why was it a 6-day war? Teenage countries have such a short attention span.

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:41:16am

I sort of feel that way about Tabor’s fellow NC professor Bart Ehrman. Though I can appreciate Ehrman’s task of bringing Biblical criticism to the Bible belt, I still think he’s too hung up on agendas.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:46:06am

re: #88 freetoken

Many Christians are uncomfortable with the likelihood that their religion did not spring forth fully formed from words of Jesus and his disciples, like Aphrodite from Zeus’ head, but took several centuries to develop, as different theological and political factions fought for dominance. Even less appealing is accepting Christians borrowed ideas from Greek and Roman philosophy.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:02:30am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

He has literally no idea how much we scrutinize people coming to this country,

Or how to speak English.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:12:24am

Posting to Twitter (and playing golf) are literally ALL HE DOES as President.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:17:27am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

Posting to Twitter (and playing golf) are literally ALL HE DOES as President.

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By this point in his term, Obama had done substantial stuff. Trump has accomplished virtually nothing of substance. Even his pulling out of the Paris Accord won’t officially take effect until 2020.

All hat, no cattle.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:21:22am

re: #64 Dave In Austin

The Justice Dept. should have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically correct version they submitted to S.C.

lolwhut

Didn’t he sign the “watered down” version?

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Joe Bacon  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:24:20am

re: #29 Cheechako

Do you want to fly with Air Traffic Control provided by the lowest bidder?

Just imagine Wall Street contracting Air Traffic Control out to India…

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:25:25am

re: #95 Timothy Watson

lolwhut

Didn’t he sign the “watered down” version?

That was then. This is now. Short term memory loss.

He’s like Dory in Finding Nemo, except nowhere near as cute. (And that applies to her voice actress, as well.)

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MsJ  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:33:36am

re: #1 Kragar

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:33:50am

re: #64 Dave In Austin

The Justice Dept. should have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically correct version they submitted to S.C.

— Donald J. Trump

And as soon as Trump becomes president, he can direct his DOJ to submit…..oh wait.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:36:04am

re: #68 freetoken

Ok, so the “travel ban” really is a travel ban.

Have we determined that for sure now?

No, don’t take DT literally, or symbolically or directly or semantically or metaphorically.

/

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jeffreyw  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:36:30am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:40:47am

re: #8 goddamnedfrank

So Saudi Arabia just cut all ties and closed borders w/ Qatar, which is home to sprawling US Central Com w/ 10,000 troops. pic.twitter.com

— Ahmed Shihab-Eldin

Deep State.

/

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Joe Bacon  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:43:53am

re: #102 Sir John Barron

Deep State.

/

And now The Deep State brings out their Big Guns!

Deep Hurting

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:57:21am
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:01:35am

re: #65 Dr Lizardo

This is all very odd. How did Qatar get the bullseye placed on it for supporting terrorism out of all the other countries in that region. Very odd. Feels like Saudi Arabia is deflecting attention from itself.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:05:02am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

Posting to Twitter (and playing golf) are literally ALL HE DOES as President.

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What an idiotic argument. Sebastian Gorka made the identical argument on CNN so I guess this is their talking point for the day. The Courts have already taken Trump pronouncements into consideration so I’m sure his tweets will be of concern as the travel ban continues to be litigated.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:05:22am

re: #105 Patricia Kayden

This is all very odd. How did Qatar get the bullseye placed on it for supporting terrorism out of all the other countries in that region. Very odd. Feels like Saudi Arabia is deflecting attention from itself.

It’s at least partly about Al Jazeera and the critics of the Saudi Royals.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:07:07am

re: #106 Patricia Kayden

What an idiotic argument. Sebastian Gorka made the identical argument on CNN so I guess this is their talking point for the day. The Courts have already taken Trump pronouncements into consideration so I’m sure his tweets will be of concern as the travel ban continues to be litigated.

Why are the networks even giving air time to these fuckers Conway & Gorka. JFC.

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sagehen  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:08:03am

re: #105 Patricia Kayden

This is all very odd. How did Qatar get the bullseye placed on it for supporting terrorism out of all the other countries in that region. Very odd. Feels like Saudi Arabia is deflecting attention from itself.

Qatar is our back-door-sideways diplomatic go-between when we deal with Iran, since we don’t have ambassadors or embassies with Iran. So negotiating freeing prisoners, that sort of thing.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:08:55am

re: #105 Patricia Kayden

This is all very odd. How did Qatar get the bullseye placed on it for supporting terrorism out of all the other countries in that region. Very odd. Feels like Saudi Arabia is deflecting attention from itself.

They said no to the Trump Qatar a Lago Hotel and Casino?

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:10:05am

re: #110 darthstar

Time:

Qatar
Trump has stakes in four companies that appear to be tied in business in the desert nation. The country’s state-owned carrier, Qatar Airways, has leased an office in Manhattan’s Trump Tower since 2008. Ivanka Trump told Hotelier Middle East in 2015 that the Trump Hotel Collection was eyeing opportunities in Qatar. Back to map.

time.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:11:24am

re: #89 sagehen

Why was it a 6-day war? On the 7th day God rested.
Why was it a 6-day war? They had to return the tanks to Hertz.
Why was it a 6-day war? Teenage countries have such a short attention span.

Israeli tanks are advancing. Egypt contacts its Soviet military advisers, who tell them “Just fall back and give ground, it worked for us!”. The Israeli advance continues, they are across the Suez canal, again the advice from the Soviet generals: “Just fall back and give more ground!”
Soon the Israeli tanks are just outside Cairo, again, the Egyptians appeal for advice and are told “Just fall back and give ground. Don’t worry, soon it will be winter!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:12:27am

re: #91 wheat-dogg

Many Christians are uncomfortable with the likelihood that their religion did not spring forth fully formed from words of Jesus and his disciples, like Aphrodite from Zeus’ head, but took several centuries to develop, as different theological and political factions fought for dominance. Even less appealing is accepting Christians borrowed ideas from Greek and Roman philosophy.

When Christians whine about “putting Christ back in Christmas”, I tell them it’s time to put Oestra back in Easter.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:14:46am

re: #107 Unshaken Defiance

It’s at least partly about Al Jazeera and the critics of the Saudi Royals.

So why do we choose to support a feudal monarchy that supports Wahabite teaching and was home to Bin Laden and 15 of the 19 9/11 attackers?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:15:22am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

Posting to Twitter (and playing golf) are literally ALL HE DOES as President.

Yes it’s all very shrill and derangement syndrome of us to pay attention to what POTUS says. If Kellyanne doesn’t want focus on POTUS tweets, maybe POTUS should stop tweeting.

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Jay C  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:17:10am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So why do we choose to support a feudal monarchy that supports Wahabite teaching and was home to Bin Laden and 15 of the 19 9/11 attackers?

It’s a three-lettter answer: and I’ll spot you the O and the I ….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:18:52am

re: #115 Sir John Barron

Yes it’s all very shrill and derangement syndrome of us to pay attention to what POTUS says. If Kellyanne doesn’t want focus on POTUS tweets, maybe POTUS should stop tweeting.

He tends to forget that as elected head of state, Twitter is an official channel of Government communication.

That is what bothered me about the covfefe thing, he is treating a very serious matter with a minimum of diligence or conscientiousness

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:21:25am
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Scout  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:21:58am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump has no understanding of, or appreciation for, policy. For Trump, the presidency is simply an extension of his campaign — non-stop pandering to the rubes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:25:04am

re: #119 Scout

Trump has no understanding of, or appreciation for, policy. For Trump, the presidency is simply an extension of his campaign — non-stop pandering to the rubes.

That was clear from the beginning: the Travel Ban was just a statement on maintaining our National Purity and Christian Identity, as was (all the talk about) The Wall.

Disowning NATO and the Paris Accords are just telling the rubes “America first at all costs!” and the attempt at revoking ACA is just saying “Screw anything and everything Obama ever did!”.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:37:34am

“He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”
- Friedrich Nietzsche

MGMT - Kids

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:37:56am

Was not a fan (just unaware really) of Ariana Grande. just heard “Over The Rainbow” from Manchester. Wow, incredibly powerful.
vanityfair.com

Bring a tissue.

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Teukka  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:39:40am

OT-ish, but I just had an excuse to share a documentary about discrimination and racism on a chat, and thought I’d share the docu with you: A Class Divided

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:43:54am

Since we seem to be in a lull for the moment news-wise, let me fill you in on my own news bulletin.

I have officially “aged out” out of working in China, and will be leaving at the end of the month. Apparently, Big Daddy Xi has told everyone that the regulations must be followed, and the regs say age 60 is the maximum age for the work visa. I got a year’s reprieve because I turned 61 in January, and could finish out the year. But no such reprieve seems forthcoming for the following school year.

I want to stay, and my school wants me to stay. There is a slim chance I could qualify as a “visiting scholar” and get a different kind of visa, but whether I get it or not, I still have to get out of Dodge when my current res permit expires on the 30th. Like in 25 days.

Finals are approaching, and I still need to give those and hand in my grades. I’ve got to pack up the stuff I want to keep, and get rid of the stuff I don’t, and meanwhile say goodbye to my students and friends.

It sucks, because I was planning to stay one more year, and then leave for greener pastures. Now instead of a year to prepare, I have barely a month.

I have already begin the dreaded job search routine. This will be the first time I’ve been unemployed in 40 years, and if I had way more money in the bank, I could just retire early. But, as matters stand, I have to find a job definitely by summer’s end. I’m not especially worried, as I have loads of experience and the willingness to relocate most anywhere, but the uncertainty of finding gainful employment at age 61 still preys on my mind. If all else fails, I may need to start my own business or consultancy.

In the interim, I’ll be living with my kids in the USA, so you’ll probably see more of me during the normal American waking hours beginning next month.

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caseyjr  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:44:25am

So, like if an artist made a sculpture of “BraveFellow” would some RWNJ artist make a little dog statue pissing on his leg?

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caseyjr  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:46:10am

re: #122 Unshaken Defiance

Was not a fan (just unaware really) ely.of Ariana Grande. just heard “Over The Rainbow” from Manchester. Wow, incredibly powerful.
vanityfair.com

Bring a tissue.

That is one song that is a bear to perform live. She was magnificent. Tears flowed free

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:46:22am

re: #123 Teukka

That’s an old report, and as I recall, many people got pissed off at the lesson and how it was done.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:46:54am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:47:57am

re: #125 caseyjr

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So, like if an artist made a sculpture of “BraveFellow” would some RWNJ artist make a little dog statue pissing on his leg?

Only if the artist had made a bronze of Charging Tank.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:49:36am

re: #124 wheat-dogg

The family here in LGF is so nice you could probably do a tour of Lizards couches in the US. I wish you well and a safe return. I have always enjoyed your stories of China.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:52:10am

re: #128 The Vicious Babushka

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Most of the people who are pending nomination were just nominated last month:
senate.gov
senate.gov

Not to mention that the GOP controls the Senate, etc. etc. etc. etc.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:53:53am
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Teukka  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:54:50am

re: #127 wheat-dogg

That’s an old report, and as I recall, many people got pissed off at the lesson and how it was done.

Yes. Because it showed how easily it is learnt, and how easily it can be unlearnt/innoculated against.

And even earlier version of it is called “The Eye of the Storm” IIRC, and a newer is called “Blue-eyed”.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:54:52am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:55:33am

PANIC PANIC PANIC

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Teukka  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:56:01am

re: #132 The Vicious Babushka

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Good grief… I made the mistake of looking at the replies to that tweet :(
*SMH*

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:56:18am

re: #135 The Vicious Babushka

PANIC PANIC PANIC

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Doesn’t he have a trip to England scheduled? Man, that’s going to be fun.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:56:45am

re: #130 Henny Penny

The family here in LGF is so nice you could probably do a tour of Lizards couches in the US. I wish you well and a safe return. I have always enjoyed your stories of China.

That’s a great idea! There are even lizards in Europe. (Hint hint)

Thanks. I still hope to write about China, though it will be from far away, unless I land a job in Taiwan (the other China).

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:56:53am

re: #128 The Vicious Babushka

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I watched part of Fox’s “Breakfast with Friends” segment this morning from Olde American Cafe (?) in Plainfield, CT where they interviewed retirees in baseball caps eating pancakes and the consensus was that they wished Dems would leave him alone and stop obstructing. Maybe he watched it, too.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:59:16am

re: #139 Barefoot Grin

I watched part of Fox’s “Breakfast with Friends” segment this morning from Olde American Cafe (?) in Plainfield, CT where they interviewed retirees in baseball caps eating pancakes and the consensus was that they wished Dems would leave him alone and stop obstructing. Maybe he watched it, too.

He parrots what he hears on the teevee, like some dotty oldster in a nursing home.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:00:02am

re: #139 Barefoot Grin

I watched part of Fox’s “Breakfast with Friends” segment this morning from Olde American Cafe (?) in Plainfield, CT where they interviewed retirees in baseball caps eating pancakes and the consensus was that they wished Dems would leave him alone and stop obstructing. Maybe he watched it, too.

He has replaced the President’s daily intel briefing with cable talk shows.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:00:42am

I remember Obama saying that “ISIS is not an existential threat to America”. Which is correct: they are not threatening our existence, like nuclear war or global warming does.

But the redneck assholes who cannot understand words with more than two syllables simply bleeped out the word “existential”, then grew upset and rebroadcast “Obama says ISIS is not a threat!”

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:01:11am

re: #138 wheat-dogg

That’s a great idea! There are even lizards in Europe. (Hint hint)

Thanks. I still hope to write about China, though it will be from far away, unless I land a job in Taiwan (the other China).

Taiwan would be great. I’ve been asked if I want to return to Japan to teach, but there’s no way now—the agism there is a real hurdle.

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No Depression  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:03:40am

re: #135 The Vicious Babushka

PANIC PANIC PANIC

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God I hate this daughterfucker.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:06:05am

re: #135 The Vicious Babushka

PANIC PANIC PANIC

Today is the day that DT became president….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:06:34am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:07:02am

re: #124 wheat-dogg

Since we seem to be in a lull for the moment news-wise, let me fill you in on my own news bulletin.

I have officially “aged out” out of working in China, and will be leaving at the end of the month. Apparently, Big Daddy Xi has told everyone that the regulations must be followed, and the regs say age 60 is the maximum age for the work visa. I got a year’s reprieve because I turned 61 in January, and could finish out the year. But no such reprieve seems forthcoming for the following school year.

I want to stay, and my school wants me to stay. There is a slim chance I could qualify as a “visiting scholar” and get a different kind of visa, but whether I get it or not, I still have to get out of Dodge when my current res permit expires on the 30th. Like in 25 days.

Finals are approaching, and I still need to give those and hand in my grades. I’ve got to pack up the stuff I want to keep, and get rid of the stuff I don’t, and meanwhile say goodbye to my students and friends.

It sucks, because I was planning to stay one more year, and then leave for greener pastures. Now instead of a year to prepare, I have barely a month.

I have already begin the dreaded job search routine. This will be the first time I’ve been unemployed in 40 years, and if I had way more money in the bank, I could just retire early. But, as matters stand, I have to find a job definitely by summer’s end. I’m not especially worried, as I have loads of experience and the willingness to relocate most anywhere, but the uncertainty of finding gainful employment at age 61 still preys on my mind. If all else fails, I may need to start my own business or consultancy.

In the interim, I’ll be living with my kids in the USA, so you’ll probably see more of me during the normal American waking hours beginning next month.

Are you familiar with the Univ. of Maryland and Troy State U. overseas contract colleges run for the Defense Department? “Campuses” are on every major US base worldwide. Eagerness to travel would be a big plus.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:07:28am

re: #143 Barefoot Grin

Taiwan would be great. I’ve been asked if I want to return to Japan to teach, but there’s no way now—the agism there is a real hurdle.

A Korean placement agency told me the top age is usually 40. I have not heard back from my Japanese inquiries, but I am not especially hopeful. Most of the Asian countries seem unwilling to employ anyone over 60, despite the supposed cultural reverence for teh olds.

My cousin, who is about 10 years older than I, got riffed when his corporation merged with another. So, in his 50s with a kid in high school and another in college, he had to scramble to find work. He ran into two problems: his age and his expected salary as a former corporate accountant. In the end, he started a consultancy, made more money and had to work fewer hours.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:07:48am

Oops. I can’t seem to isolate single tweets. Oh well.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:08:37am

re: #147 Decatur Deb

Are you familiar with the Univ. of Maryland and Troy State U. overseas contract colleges run for the Defense Department? “Campuses” are on every major US base worldwide. Eagerness to travel would be a big plus.

I did not, so now I will look into that. Thanks!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:10:04am

re: #141 The Vicious Babushka

He has replaced the President’s daily intel briefing with cable talk shows.

He literally said he went to Kimberly Gulifoyle for advice on Paris. But yeah he’s like your crazy uncle who parrots FNC talking points as if they’re the absolute truth except he’s President. It would be comical if it weren’t really fucking up our image in the world.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:13:59am
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:17:58am

Looks like a mass workplace shooting in Orlando, FL.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:20:17am

re: #153 Barefoot Grin

Looks like a mass workplace shooting in Orlando, FL.

Fuck.

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Frenchy  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:20:18am

re: #135 The Vicious Babushka

So after a terror attack in London the President of the United States is literally picking petty fights with the mayor of London via Twitter.

No Donald, you’re the pathetic excuse…for a human being. Fuck you.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:20:21am

re: #153 Barefoot Grin

Looks like a mass workplace shooting in Orlando, FL.

Well, thank God those people had guns to defend themselves from terrorists.

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Frenchy  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:20:43am

Deleted.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:21:08am

re: #156 Timothy Watson

Well, thank God those people had guns to defend themselves from terrorists.

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Not surprisingly, on twitter it’s being analyzed from just the opposite direction by 2A “patriots.”

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:22:31am

re: #158 Barefoot Grin

Uh…accidental downding?

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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:22:57am

re: #150 wheat-dogg

I did not, so now I will look into that. Thanks!

The instructors are usually on 1-3 year contracts, get on-post privileges (depending on the status-of-forces agreements). Very good people. Son2 took Lit courses in Italy from Donna Leon, the mystery writer.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:23:38am
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ipsos  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:24:59am

re: #161 Dr. Matt

You still can’t spell Posobiec without “P-O-S”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:25:20am

re: #162 ipsos

You still can’t spell Posobiec without “P-O-S”

POS-SOB.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:27:36am

re: #156 Timothy Watson

Well, thank God those people had guns to defend themselves from terrorists.

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Yep. That’s exactly why Trump shouldn’t have brought up guns after London. Guns make it easier to kill people more quicker.

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covfefe  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:27:59am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

“Bi” !!!

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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:29:08am

re: #156 Timothy Watson

Well, thank God those people had guns to defend themselves from terrorists.

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Perhaps the British can give the mayor of Orlando some free advice.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:29:13am

In a way, as much as I like door knocking for Perriello and Taintor, the two candidates I’m working for. I am in a way looking forward to the primaries being over since my allergies are starting to kill me and the dog days of summer are quickly upon us.

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MsJ  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:29:27am

re: #152 Belafon

You know what’s so weird to me? The N word never, ever crosses my mind. If some random black asshole cuts in front of my car, I’ll scream out ASSHOLE! The concept of color simply never comes into my thoughts. Calling someone a House or Field Negro never enters my mind. Ever. If someone else says it I might go, yeah, ok (which is bad enough), but as something that sits in my realm of consciousness (or unconsciousness) it’s just not there.

What strikes me about Maher is that this was something that just came out; an extemporaneous joke. But doesn’t that mean that’s “a thing” in his mind? To me it’s no different than Cramer (Michael someone or other) screaming out the N word at some random asshole at his stand up gig. That shit either lives in your thoughts or it doesn’t.

It’s so much more rampant that any white person (like me, at least) can imagine. And it’s not something we (white people) could ever do a “walk a mile in his shoes”.

It’s so damned sad it makes me want to cry.

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MsJ  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:29:45am

re: #153 Barefoot Grin

Looks like a mass workplace shooting in Orlando, FL.

Another day in ‘Murica.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:29:55am

re: #166 Decatur Deb

Perhaps the British can give the mayor of Orlando some free advice.

Yes, I look forward to Teresa May attacking Buddy Dyer.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:30:04am

re: #167 HappyWarrior

In a way, as much as I like door knocking for Perriello and Taintor, the two candidates I’m working for. I am in a way looking forward to the primaries being over since my allergies are starting to kill me and the dog days of summer are quickly upon us.

Oh, I’m sure the campaigns will find you something to do after Primary Day.

(:

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:30:32am

re: #168 MsJ

You know what’s so weird to me? The N word never, ever crosses my mind. If some random black asshole cuts in front of my car, I’ll scream out ASSHOLE! The concept of color simply never comes into my thoughts. Calling someone a House or Field Negro never enters my mind. Ever. If someone else says it I might go, yeah, ok (which is bad enough), but as something that sits in my realm of consciousness (or unconsciousness) it’s just not there.

What strikes me about Maher is that this was something that just came out; an extemporaneous joke. But doesn’t that mean that’s “a thing” in his mind? To me it’s no different than Cramer (Michael someone or other) screaming out the N word at some random asshole at his stand up gig. That shit either lives in your thoughts or it doesn’t.

It’s so much more rampant that any white person (like me, at least) can imagine. And it’s not something we (white people) could ever do a “walk a mile in his shoes”.

It’s so damned sad it makes me want to cry.

Exactly.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:31:29am

Just caught this tweet at the end of the last thread:

Wait. Who supported al Qaeda?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:31:56am

re: #171 Timothy Watson

Oh, I’m sure the campaigns will find you something to do after Primary Day.

(:

I’m sure they will too. I met Perriello’s mother yesterday. Very nice lady. Proud of her son obviously but with a good sense of humor. You know me, I’ll be on board if Northam wins but I really think Tom’s got it. This is the most excited I’ve been for a state candidate in a long time.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:32:04am

The Orlando Shooter Is Reported to be a Disgruntled Employee

Anyone know where George Killerman has been employed as of late??

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:34:25am

re: #159 Timothy Watson

Uh…accidental downding?

Maybe. Fixed, if so.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:34:33am
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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:36:26am

re: #177 Dr. Matt

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Think of the payout if you’d bet on those three events.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:38:49am

re: #128 The Vicious Babushka

He gets destroyed in the responses. Twitter isn’t working out so well for him lately.

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covfefe  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:41:36am

I really hate to play numbers with tragedies… but this really does hold true and gets right to the point.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:41:58am
A federal lawsuit filed against Henrico County Sheriff Michael Wade was recently settled in a closely watched case involving an illegal immigrant from El Salvador who sued after he was held in the Henrico Jail for immigration authorities beyond his scheduled release for drunken driving.

The terms of the settlement remain confidential, both parties say, but the attorney representing immigrant Jaime S. Alfaro-Garcia said Virginia localities are “now on notice” regarding the issue of holding jailed immigrants on detainers issued by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Immigration attorney Jacob Tingen said jail officials in Virginia “should review their detention policies to ensure they don’t violate the constitutional rights of both citizens and immigrants.”

“We’re prepared to bring similar cases in the future if necessary,” Tingen added. “Just because you’re not here with lawful status doesn’t mean you surrender (constitutional) rights or due process.”

richmond.com

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:42:47am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:42:59am

re: #181 Timothy Watson

richmond.com

This is exactly why it’s vital we elect good people on the local level as well.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:43:32am

re: #182 Birth Control Works

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I’ll take one that says It’s fucking Monday morning again even if in the interim, I’m working Mondays from home.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:44:46am

re: #180 covfefe

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Yes, and, the meme is old.

as old as 9/11.

It doesn’t detract from the overwhelming amount of gun violence in this country perpetrated by white christian terrorists.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:45:20am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

I’ll take one that says It’s fucking Monday morning again even if in the interim, I’m working Mondays from home.

I can do that.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:45:43am

re: #186 Birth Control Works

I can do that.

I am feeling it today. My allergies are killing me.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:46:32am

Fact is Trump should shut up about Britain’s gun laws when we a country with liberal gun laws have plenty of gun related mass shootings.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:46:35am

re: #183 HappyWarrior

This is exactly why it’s vital we elect good people on the local level as well.

Yeah, read the rest of the story too. It talks about how the Chesterfield County Sheriff won’t honor ICE detainers on advice of the county’s attorney. He said that he gives ICE notice well in advance of the inmate’s release and if they want to obtain an arrest warrant, they can knock themselves out.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:48:19am

re: #189 Timothy Watson

Yeah, read the rest of the story too. It talks about how the Chesterfield County Sheriff won’t honor ICE detainers on advice of the county’s attorney. He said that he gives ICE notice well in advance of the inmate’s release and if they want to obtain an arrest warrant, they can knock themselves out.

That’s scary.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:48:24am

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Fact is Trump should shut up about Britain’s gun laws when we a country with liberal gun laws have plenty of gun related mass shootings.

Not to mention, there has NEVER BEEN A CASE where an armed civilian prevented a mass shooting.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:49:21am

WTF?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:49:30am

re: #191 The Vicious Babushka

Not to mention, there has NEVER BEEN A CASE where an armed civilian prevented a mass shooting.

Many people would in fact tell you that an armed civilian would make an already volatilize situation worse but that doesn’t stop the gun humpers fantasy.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:49:30am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

That’s scary.

That sounds like a good thing to me. The sheriff isn’t doing ICE’s job for them. If they want it done, they’ll have to do it themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:50:02am

re: #194 Belafon

That sounds like a good thing to me. The sheriff isn’t doing ICE’s job for them. If they want it done, they’ll have to do it themselves.

Maybe I’m just tired and not thinking right.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:50:36am

re: #191 The Vicious Babushka

Not to mention, there has NEVER BEEN A CASE where an armed civilian prevented a mass shooting.

LIAR! At every NASCAR race a mass shooting is prevented because everyone haz teh gunzzz!!! FACT!

///

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:50:38am

Portland we love you but…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:50:49am

Anyhow, too many people in this country don’t know that so called illegal immigration is a civil not a criminal matter.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:51:32am

re: #122 Unshaken Defiance

Was not a fan (just unaware really) of Ariana Grande. just heard “Over The Rainbow” from Manchester. Wow, incredibly powerful.
vanityfair.com

Bring a tissue.

Darn. The video is no longer available.

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MsJ  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:52:43am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:52:52am

re: #193 HappyWarrior

Many people would in fact tell you that an armed civilian would make an already volatilize situation worse but that doesn’t stop the gun humpers fantasy.

Gunfuckers have a meme listing all the alleged instances where an armed civilian stopped a shooting but all these instances have been debunked.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:54:58am

re: #201 The Vicious Babushka

Gunfuckers have a meme listing all the alleged instances where an armed civilian stopped a shooting but all these instances have been debunked.

The key element of any mass shooting is catching people by surprise. I’ve read many CMOH citations where the soldier or Marine in question captured up to whole platoons of enemy simply by catching them by surprise.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:55:28am

Do I really have to hear Trump’s whiny voice for the next four years? My early 30’s deserve better than that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:55:45am

Donny Junior complains about “Fake News” and cites SMOTI

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:57:18am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:57:22am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

Donny Junior complains about “Fake News” and cites SMOTI

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Doesn’t he have a “business” to run?

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:58:14am

re: #194 Belafon

That sounds like a good thing to me. The sheriff isn’t doing ICE’s job for them. If they want it done, they’ll have to do it themselves.

Yeah, he said that unless he gets something with a judge’s or magistrate’s signature, the inmate is going to be released when he’s supposed to be.

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makeitstop  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:58:16am

re: #200 MsJ

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She’s a good singer, but there was a lot of unnecessary adornment of the melody for my taste. Not taking a single thing away from her good work in putting on the show, but that performance was a little histrionic melody-wise.

Everyone can get off my lawn now.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:59:15am

re: #201 The Vicious Babushka

Gunfuckers have a meme listing all the alleged instances where an armed civilian stopped a shooting but all these instances have been debunked.

There are a couple that have been verified. It’s not the old Wild West. The problem is that there isn’t a check box on the forms police submit to the FBI that says “crime prevented by lawful gun owner”

The data is not collected.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:01:58am

re: #208 makeitstop

She’s a good singer, but there was a lot of unnecessary adornment of the melody for my taste. Not taking a single thing away from her good work in putting on the show, but that performance was a little histrionic melody-wise.

Everyone can get off my lawn now.

She reminds me of Whitney Houston, both in style and voice.

AG can come over to my lawn anytime.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:05:01am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

The key element of any mass shooting is catching people by surprise. I’ve read many CMOH citations where the soldier or Marine in question captured up to whole platoons of enemy simply by catching them by surprise.

Even if you have the skills of Annie Oakley and the determination of Dirty Harry, in the first few seconds of an incident you don’t know who to shoot.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:05:33am

re: #187 HappyWarrior

I am feeling it today. My allergies are killing me.

me too. Travelled a couple hours and slept in a hotel bed this weekend for my kid’s friend’s wedding.

It was the first of his friends to marry.

*sob*

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:05:57am

re: #193 HappyWarrior

Many people would in fact tell you that an armed civilian would make an already volatilize situation worse but that doesn’t stop the gun humpers fantasy.

Anyone / maybe everyone trained up by professionals will tell you that. And it’s such a muddle when completely unreasonable thinking has to be gone through like it has relevance. Reminds me of climate debate. On the upside we do have literally innumerable incidents where folks with guns tucked away avoided or fled the danger. Called cops and did not pull the gun. But we can not count on forbearance and wisdom from untrained people armed or not.

In the era of soft target weapon of opportunity attacks we have to think through how to get away if we can, hide if we can’t run and still live if we can’t hide. So many places a gun is no help anyway. Bus. Train. Crowd. Texas car dealerships apparently.//
Maybe it’s too soon to snark that incident. But I’m looking at being out in public and on public transit differently.

Is it time to think/teach personal safety stuff like “how fast can I run with my kid?” Or emergency stop the subway between stations or not? Response time is much better at stations.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:06:14am

re: #211 Decatur Deb

Even if you have the skills of Annie Oakley and the determination of Dirty Harry, in the first few seconds of an incident you don’t know who to shoot.

exactly, even with all the training they receive, law enforcement isn’t in a hurry (in theory) to shoot until the situation is accessed.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:06:19am

re: #168 MsJ

You know what’s so weird to me? The N word never, ever crosses my mind. If some random black asshole cuts in front of my car, I’ll scream out ASSHOLE! The concept of color simply never comes into my thoughts. Calling someone a House or Field Negro never enters my mind. Ever. If someone else says it I might go, yeah, ok (which is bad enough), but as something that sits in my realm of consciousness (or unconsciousness) it’s just not there.

What strikes me about Maher is that this was something that just came out; an extemporaneous joke. But doesn’t that mean that’s “a thing” in his mind? To me it’s no different than Cramer (Michael someone or other) screaming out the N word at some random asshole at his stand up gig. That shit either lives in your thoughts or it doesn’t.

It’s so much more rampant that any white person (like me, at least) can imagine. And it’s not something we (white people) could ever do a “walk a mile in his shoes”.

It’s so damned sad it makes me want to cry.

Yeah, that phrase slipped out of Maher’s mouth very easily.

I know on thing, I am in no way invested in Bill Maher. He’s an arrogant ass.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:06:23am

re: #212 Birth Control Works

me too. Travelled a couple hours and slept in a hotel bed this weekend for my kid’s friend’s wedding.

It was the first of his friends to marry.

*sob*

Been to a few of those now that a lot of people I grew up with are marrying.

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makeitstop  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:06:37am

re: #210 wheat-dogg

She reminds me of Whitney Houston, both in style and voice.

AG can come over to my lawn anytime.

Like I said, she’s talented, without a doubt.

But a lot of that performance reminds me of this.

How to: Hip-Sing

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:06:57am

I think there was situation in which armed civilians did stopped a suicide bomber in Israel.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:07:58am

re: #218 Birth Control Works

I think there was situation in which armed civilians did stopped a suicide bomber in Israel.

Most armed civilians there are trained reservists.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:08:35am

re: #213 Unshaken Defiance

Anyone / maybe everyone trained up by professionals will tell you that. And it’s such a muddle when completely unreasonable thinking has to be gone through like it has relevance. Reminds me of climate debate. On the upside we do have literally innumerable incidents where folks with guns tucked away avoided or fled the danger. Called cops and did not pull the gun. But we can not count on forbearance and wisdom from untrained people armed or not.

In the era of soft target weapon of opportunity attacks we have to think through how to get away if we can, hide if we can’t run and still live if we can’t hide. So many places a gun is no help anyway. Bus. Train. Crowd. Texas car dealerships apparently.//
Maybe it’s too soon to snark that incident. But I’m looking at being out in public and on public transit differently.

Is it time to think/teach personal safety stuff like “how fast can I run with my kid?” Or emergency stop the subway between stations or not? Response time is much better at stations.

I mean I get that people want to do the right thing but you’re right, each of these situations is difference. I am just tired of hearing whenever a tragedy happens “If only they had guns.” I just wish these people would pictuer themselves in that situation.

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caseyjr  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:09:05am

re: #208 makeitstop

She’s a good singer, but there was a lot of unnecessary adornment of the melody for my taste. Not taking a single thing away from her good work in putting on the show, but that performance was a little histrionic melody-wise.

Everyone can get off my lawn now.

Chanteuses have been vamping like that since Peggy Lee, Sarah Vaughn and Ella Fitzgerald, you just noticing now?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:09:15am

re: #218 Birth Control Works

I think there was situation in which armed civilians did stopped a suicide bomber in Israel.

Well many Israeli civilians would have firearms experience given Israeli’s compulsive armed service.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:10:04am

So, if Trump gets his travel ban it will begin after the original travel ban was set to expire? [Foreigner]Urgent! Urgent![/Foreigner]

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:10:05am

re: #211 Decatur Deb

Old ground, but it’s a new day I guess. CCW safety, marksmanship, legalities, and of course sensible tactics each take time to learn at all. Then more time to habituate. Then more time to maintain. Refresh. Pick 100 people that carry. Then study their training or more likely lack of it.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:10:49am

re: #219 Decatur Deb

Most armed civilians there are trained reservists.

I’m not sure it would make a difference in this country.

Some conservative gun nut wrote once, I can’t remember the specifics, that American’s would kill each other with chairs if that’s all they had.

Sad, but I think it’s true.

David Hemenway, stated that America doesn’t compare to any other country for gun violence statistical purposes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:10:54am

re: #219 Decatur Deb

Most armed civilians there are trained reservists.

IOW, not really civilians.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:11:38am

re: #224 Unshaken Defiance

Old ground, but it’s a new day I guess. CCW safety, marksmanship, legalities, and of course sensible tactics each take time to learn at all. Then more time to habituate. Then more time to maintain. Refresh. Pick 100 people that carry. Then study their training or more likely lack of it.

Concealed carriers, IMHO, would be most effective if they coordinated with law enforcement (when possible).

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:12:13am

re: #214 Birth Control Works

exactly, even with all the training they receive, law enforcement isn’t in a hurry (in theory) to shoot until the situation is accessed.

To be fair, standard training for law enforcement is to run into an active shooter situation, at least since Columbine.

Here’s an after action report from the Navy Yard shooting that goes over, among other things, how the Metropolitan Police Department and other agencies formed interagency active shooter teams to clear the building:

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:12:27am

re: #221 caseyjr

Chanteuses have been vamping like that since Peggy Lee, Sarah Vaughn and Ella Fitzgerald, you just noticing now?

ELLA!

Now, don’t go comparing Ella with ANYONE!

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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:12:45am

re: #222 HappyWarrior

Well many Israeli civilians would have firearms experience given Israeli’s compulsive armed service.

It’s something of a filter in the permitting process (true as of 2001). Keeps the wrong citizens from carrying.

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Teukka  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:14:08am

Re: Firearms training, not many civilians have tactical firearms training, such as ballistic awareness (being aware of what is behind your target) or blue-on-blue awareness.
I think there have been a number of incidents in the US where people with tactical firearms training never fired a shot, but reverted into a mode where they are prepared protect themselves and people around them.
That’s my major beef with the ammosexuals, the notion that if you have a gun, it’s easy to use it. But it isn’t. You need marksmanship, you need to know where to shoot, you need to know when to shoot, and most importantly, when not to shoot.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:15:03am

re: #231 Teukka

Re: Firearms training, not many civilians have tactical firearms training, such as ballistic awareness (being aware of what is behind your target) or blue-on-blue awareness.
I think there have been a number of incidents in the US where people with tactical firearms training never fired a shot, but reverted into a mode where they are prepared protect themselves and people around them.
That’s my major beef with the ammosexuals, the notion that if you have a gun, it’s easy to use it. But it isn’t. You need marksmanship, you need to know where to shoot, you need to know when to shoot, and most importantly, when not to shoot.

Exactly.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:15:43am

All the talk about CCW stopping mass shooters ignores the cost/benefit equation. If one CCW stopped one mass shooting a year, does it make up for the 30,000+ other deaths caused by firearms?

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:15:55am

Many, here, know that I have a “thing” for self-defense as a civil right of a free person.

As is usual with me, and I think a lot of other people, reproductive rights are self-defense, abortion is self-defense.

I don’t see the problem. Why the two subjects, guns and repro rights, are the sole property of two different political parties is beyond me.

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MsJ  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:17:08am

re: #208 makeitstop

She’s a good singer, but there was a lot of unnecessary adornment of the melody for my taste. Not taking a single thing away from her good work in putting on the show, but that performance was a little histrionic melody-wise.

Everyone can get off my lawn now.

I agree. Same with Christina Aguilera. Both have spectacular voices but do far too many runs, IMHO.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:17:36am

Maybe less emotion helps, a hard boiled intellectual peek for a minute.

I found out that special teams train on buses and trains and aircraft physically. There are mock and real aircraft cabins at some training facilities. But the cop that first rolls up or gets caught up in a public incident is not gonna be one of those guys. (Sorry ladies few of those teams yet include women). So when we ponder what it takes at an incident to “help” you see how little civilians have in common with police. How unlikely an intersection of skills will work right given even trained people that did not train together like the teams you need.

What’s more likely? When people hide out maybe one of them has a gun and training. What’s the best? GTFO with everyone else. Duh.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:18:16am

re: #231 Teukka

Re: Firearms training, not many civilians have tactical firearms training, such as ballistic awareness (being aware of what is behind your target) or blue-on-blue awareness.
I think there have been a number of incidents in the US where people with tactical firearms training never fired a shot, but reverted into a mode where they are prepared protect themselves and people around them.
That’s my major beef with the ammosexuals, the notion that if you have a gun, it’s easy to use it. But it isn’t. You need marksmanship, you need to know where to shoot, you need to know when to shoot, and most importantly, when not to shoot.

In my world, the world of my father and other family members who are gun nuts, not one has ever fired a weapon in self-defense. They are also not trigger happy. There are rules and they are strictly followed. Not even a toy gun is pointed at a living creature.

Both of my son’s grandfather served in the military, I think it makes a difference is how a gun is perceived by an individual.

It’s a tool, not so much an extension of manhood. It’s a responsibility.

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MsJ  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:19:11am

re: #215 ObserverArt

Hey, not to beat a dead horse, but did you ever see that info I sent you?

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:19:19am

I am concerned with the current desire to legalize silencers.

What possible reason does a civilian have to own a silencer?

Gun nuts don’t need every toy.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:19:29am

re: #200 MsJ

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Thanks MsJ.

Ariana has proven she is very human and a very very good singer.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:19:30am

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST GUN-FUCKING MEME EVER CREATED:

Wingnut 9/11 fantasy
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makeitstop  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:19:41am

re: #221 caseyjr

Chanteuses have been vamping like that since Peggy Lee, Sarah Vaughn and Ella Fitzgerald, you just noticing now?

Not really. I’d peg the start of that style on Mariah Carey and shows like ‘The Voice,’ where every singer had to have a boffo ending.

Not my cup of tea. YMMV.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:20:53am

re: #201 The Vicious Babushka

Gunfuckers have a meme listing all the alleged instances where an armed civilian stopped a shooting but all these instances have been debunked.

Proof that facts don’t matter. They want to believe so they believe.

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danarchy  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:21:20am

re: #217 makeitstop

Like I said, she’s talented, without a doubt.

But a lot of that performance reminds me of this.

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Video

That was amusing, but what is with those safety goggles. Was she taking a break from a chemistry experiment to make that video? I am cool with thick framed glasses, but those are ridiculous.

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MsJ  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:21:31am

re: #240 ObserverArt

Thanks MsJ.

Ariana has proven she is very human and a very very good singer.

I had to look for it, too, since it wasn’t available when I went to Vanity Fair. :-)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:23:12am

re: #241 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST GUN-FUCKING MEME EVER CREATED:

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The person who created that has clearly ever been in a crowded passenger class air cabin. It’s a pain in the ass for me to get my tablet or iPhone out of my backpack. I can’t imagine what getting a gun and then loading it would be like.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:23:13am

Mariah Carey! Her first video really was something (for the day).

Mariah Carey - Vision Of Love

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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:24:08am

re: #241 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST GUN-FUCKING MEME EVER CREATED:

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That one is too stupid to criticize. If the good guy passengers had been allowed to board with firearms, the bad guys would have been allowed to board with firearms, and the initiative. Now no one can have boxcutters or baby lotion.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:24:39am

re: #248 Decatur Deb

That one is too stupid to criticize. If the good guy passengers had been allowed to board with firearms, the bad guys would have been allowed to board with firearms, and the initiative. Now no one can have boxcutters or baby lotion.

Exactly.

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MsJ  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:24:46am

re: #247 Birth Control Works

Mariah Carey! Her first video really was something (for the day).

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When Ariana Grande first came out as a singer (vs an actor from a couple of Nick shows) every time she was mentioned so was Mariah Carey. They always compared Grande to Carey. Both have amazing voices.

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Teukka  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:25:13am

re: #237 Birth Control Works

In my world, the world of my father and other family members who are gun nuts, not one has ever fired a weapon in self-defense. They are also not trigger happy. There are rules and they are strictly followed. Not even a toy gun is pointed at a living creature.

Both of my son’s grandfather served in the military, I think it makes a difference is how a gun is perceived by an individual.

It’s a tool, not so much an extension of manhood. It’s a responsibility.

I have that deeply ingrained in my spine, never point anything resembling a gun at a target you do not intend to kill, and that’s from the air rifle practice in high school.
Then I have bits and pieces from friends and acquaintances which make me unpleasant to play FPS’es (first-person-shooter games) with.

I haven’t been in the military, but I’m prepared to serve if the embassy contacts me because the panic button has been pressed.

I do not own any firearms, but if I need to pick one up because circumstances so require, I know what I’d prefer and the basics of usage.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:25:29am

re: #208 makeitstop

She’s a good singer, but there was a lot of unnecessary adornment of the melody for my taste. Not taking a single thing away from her good work in putting on the show, but that performance was a little histrionic melody-wise.

Everyone can get off my lawn now.

I agree. But fortunately that extra stuff seems to be desired as in fashion. I wish singers would stick to directions of the song but I wonder if the newer audiences would think less of it.

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MsJ  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:27:33am

re: #252 ObserverArt

I agree. But fortunately that extra stuff seems to be desired as in fashion. I wish singers would stick to directions of the song but I wonder if the newer audiences would think less of it.

I used to watch American Idol and the judges often told them to use those runs to show something off…not just generally throughout the entire song.

Personally, I find it distracting as hell. It’s like the song itself doesn’t matter.

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Teukka  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:27:50am

re: #241 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST GUN-FUCKING MEME EVER CREATED:

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That one screams of lack of ballistic awareness. Your bullet may pass though your target and you are in a pressurized tube at a significant distance from the ground. Although experiments show that you are not as likely to have an explosive decompression as a result of puncturing the fuselage, it is a possibility.
And don’t get me started on the wiring in an aircraft, some of which carry significant power. Now, in-flight fires gives people in the know quality creeps.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:28:08am
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plansbandc  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:28:42am

re: #235 MsJ

Melisma drives me batty. But I’m an old. :D

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:28:53am
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makeitstop  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:29:42am

re: #256 plansbandc

Melisma drives me batty. But I’m an old. :D

You said it much more succinctly than I did.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:30:48am

re: #255 Ace-o-aces

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

People, the lawyers and the courts can call it whatever they want, but I am calling it what we need and what it is, a TRAVEL BAN!

And this is why I don’t especially want to see Trump replaced by Pence. Pence would have his “Temporary Geography-based Travel Restriction” in place by now.

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plansbandc  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:31:51am

re: #257 Birth Control Works

Just perfection.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:33:16am

re: #238 MsJ

Hey, not to beat a dead horse, but did you ever see that info I sent you?

Yes I did. I’m going to see what I can come up with.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:33:55am

re: #161 Dr. Matt

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caseyjr  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:36:10am

re: #252 ObserverArt

I agree. But fortunately that extra stuff seems to be desired as in fashion. I wish singers would stick to directions of the song but I wonder if the newer audiences would think less of it.

Cadenzas go back to the 18th century, Bach wrote them in. So vocal flourishes are with us whether we like them or not. I prefer that they are limited to less than 50% lol

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:37:05am

re: #263 caseyjr

Cadenzas go back to the 18th century, Bach wrote them in. So vocal flourishes are with us whether we like them or not. I prefer that they are limited to less than 50% lol

Reminds me of lens flare in cinema.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:37:28am

re: #260 plansbandc

Just perfection.

ELLA was such a special lady.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:39:44am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:42:02am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:42:43am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:43:00am

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

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IT’S TOO SOON TO POLITICIZE THE ORLANDO TRAGEDY !!1!

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:43:35am

re: #264 Unshaken Defiance

Reminds me of lens flare in cinema.

It’s the same with people that get their first graphics program and discover they have 120 fonts. So, the first flier or whatever they create they use as many of them as they can. What they end up with is an unreadable mess that has no dominant focus, just elements all over the place that don’t relate.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:45:00am

GOP are the lowest scum on the face of the earth. OK maybe the 2nd lowest scum.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:45:11am

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

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Let us know when Trump types up his tweet that mentions Orlando and how we need to really do something about it.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:45:20am
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Ace-o-aces  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:46:41am
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:52:15am

Something I’ve known and talked about since summer of 2015:

“Most of Trump’s supporters aren’t working class; they’re pretty affluent”

washingtonpost.com

I went to a raucous early Trump rally in southern NH and found a parking lot filled with Suburbans and Escalades. The audience looked like a mix of real estate agents, contractors, and bankers. There was a smattering of camo, but mostly gaudy red-white-and blue clothing items. And yes, there is a high correlation between trump bumper stickers and III% stickers on trucks, one was mostly struck by the large trump signs in the yards of >$1million-dollar homes.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:52:26am

re: #274 Ace-o-aces

The fact that he thinks Mandela was a terrorist tells you everything about him.

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scottslemmons  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:53:11am

re: #274 Ace-o-aces

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Even for a Nazi, Posobiec is not smart.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:54:16am

re: #276 Barefoot Grin

Something I’ve known and talked about since summer of 2015:

“Most of Trump’s supporters aren’t working class; they’re pretty affluent”

washingtonpost.com

I went to a raucous early Trump rally in southern NH and found a parking lot filled with Suburbans and Escalades. The audience looked like a mix of real estate agents, contractors, and bankers. There was a smattering of camo, but mostly gaudy red-white-and blue clothing items. And yes, there is a high correlation between trump bumper stickers and III% stickers on trucks, one was mostly struck by the large trump signs in the yards of >$1million-dollar homes.

I live in a part of Texas that matches that. They’re Republicans who don’t believe what Trump and Republicans are doing will affect them, so they want their taxes cut and abortion outlawed.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:54:55am

re: #274 Ace-o-aces

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Well say what you will about Jack, at elast he doesn’t pretend to respect Nelson Mandela.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:54:58am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:55:20am

re: #277 Belafon

The fact that he thinks Mandela was a terrorist tells you everything about him.

It does but I appreciate him letting his true colors fly there.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:55:38am

re: #281 Birth Control Works

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She needs to go to jail for a loooooooooooooooong time.

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KGxvi  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:58:59am

re: #277 Belafon

The fact that he thinks Mandela was a terrorist tells you everything about him.

Reminds me of the old line about one man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist.

Following the London Bridge attack, it would be really nice if someone in a position of authority pointed out that these types of attacks are crimes not much different than mass shootings; and that the way to deal with them is to treat them accordingly. Sadly, at least here in the US, the response is going to be to frame this as a war of civilizations, because reason, nuance, and rationality are in short supply.

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dangerman  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:00:01am

re: #241 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST GUN-FUCKING MEME EVER CREATED:

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this is actually pointing out how ludicrous the argument is:

it’s not “if only they had guns”

what theyre really saying -the only thing they can say is - is what the picture shows:

all things being equal if only they had guns, they were already drawn, aimed at all the perps and were able to fire first

ludicrous

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:01:06am

Pence is the warm-up act. I can’t watch.

And yet, I can’t turn away. This shitshow.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:02:31am

Hair problems.

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retired cynic  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:05:31am

This is from before the election, and there are touches of ‘bro’ to it, but it does help explain some of the back story about the ME blowup. Long!

Link goes to Huff Po

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KGxvi  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:06:57am

So, realistically, what does privatizing the air traffic controls really do? I’m assuming they’ll still be unionized, so does this actually accomplish anything?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:09:08am

re: #290 KGxvi

So, realistically, what does privatizing the air traffic controls really do? I’m assuming they’ll still be unionized, so does this actually accomplish anything?

Just the egos of the private is always better people. I actually worked as an intern in the Dulles ATC tower as a teenager. The FAA really cares a lot about training their controllers. Making ATC for profit just sounds short-sighted and stupid.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:09:41am

re: #290 KGxvi

So, realistically, what does privatizing the air traffic controls really do? I’m assuming they’ll still be unionized, so does this actually accomplish anything?

Outsourcing.

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makeitstop  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:10:05am

re: #290 KGxvi

So, realistically, what does privatizing the air traffic controls really do? I’m assuming they’ll still be unionized, so does this actually accomplish anything?

Probably the end of flying with any guarantee that you’re going to land safely.

And some Trump crony makes a truckload of dough.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:10:42am

re: #293 makeitstop

Probably the end of flying with any guarantee that you’re going to land safely.

And some Trump crony makes a truckload of dough.

Carriers will jack their prices.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:11:07am

re: #293 makeitstop

Probably the end of flying with any guarantee that you’re going to land safely.

And some Trump crony makes a truckload of dough.

That too.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:11:59am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:12:19am

So, Trump is continuing his Twitter feud with the Mayor of London, Saddq Khan. bbc.com

This guy…….this fucking guy……he just can’t let things go, can he? He’s such an embarrassment.

Seeing as how PM May hasn’t said much of anything beyond a rather timorous response, I’ll send this one Donnie’s way:

Eat a bag of dicks

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:12:44am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:13:02am

re: #290 KGxvi

So, realistically, what does privatizing the air traffic controls really do? I’m assuming they’ll still be unionized, so does this actually accomplish anything?

a person or corporation get’s to profit.

It’s all about creating jobs —take jobs away from government works and give them to the private sector.

In some alternate universe this is good for the economy.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:13:29am
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caseyjr  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:13:41am

re: #293 makeitstop

Probably the end of flying with any guarantee that you’re going to land safely.

And some Trump crony makes a truckload of dough.

It creates a “too big to fail” industry that makes profit private while shifting losses to taxpayers.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:14:24am

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

Outsourcing.

New Delhi?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:14:51am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

So, Trump is continuing his Twitter feud with the Mayor of London, Saddq Khan. bbc.com

This guy…….this fucking guy……he just can’t let things go, can he? He’s such an embarrassment.

Seeing as how PM May hasn’t said much of anything beyond a rather timorous response, I’ll send this one Donnie’s way:

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When you look at our leaders in the past, even ones I disagreed with, they did value working together with our allies. I think that’s one reason why I’ve come to respect H.W. Bush as President.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:15:03am

re: #302 Barefoot Grin

New Delhi?

Chennai.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:15:33am

re: #304 The Vicious Babushka

Chennai.

Too vulnerable to monsoons. Have off-shore teams there - lost them for a good two weeks last year.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:16:48am

And Doc Lizardo since you’re up, do you have any good recommendations on sites to see in Bratislava? Been talking with the cousins, we’re going to do a Slovak homeland trip to our ancestral home village in the Presov region but want to see Bratislava too.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:17:01am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:19:01am

mandatory cuteness

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caseyjr  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:19:47am

re: #302 Barefoot Grin

New Delhi?

“Your flight is important to us. Please stay on the line until the next crash-avoidance consultant can assist you”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:20:44am

I mean air travel is safer than ever. Why priviatize ATC?

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makeitstop  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:21:28am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

I mean air travel is safer than ever. Why priviatize ATC?

Those campaign endorsements are not going to pay for themselves.
/

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:21:57am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:26:53am
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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:27:25am

re: #284 Birth Control Works

A Racist Just Brutally Beat A Muslim Woman Unconscious In Ohio

I hate seeing this story since it is about Columbus. But, this is America.

It seems like even the old thinking that a man never touch a woman isn’t in play anymore.

It’s all just hate, hate, hate.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:31:12am

Hey, I gotta mow before the grass gets wet! timescolonist.com

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gocart mozart  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:31:31am

The David Simon apology tour continues

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:32:17am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

And Doc Lizardo since you’re up, do you have any good recommendations on sites to see in Bratislava? Been talking with the cousins, we’re going to do a Slovak homeland trip to our ancestral home village in the Presov region but want to see Bratislava too.

Only been there once and that was 16 years ago. The castle was nice and the old town.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:33:26am

re: #309 caseyjr

“Your flight is important to us. Please stay on the line until the next crash-avoidance consultant can assist you”

“Heloo, this is Brad….”

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piratedan  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:33:40am

re: #290 KGxvi

“… now your flight attendants will make one last pass through the cabin to pick up any remaining items you want thrown away and the “safe landing fee” that is necessary to allow us to land at the airport in a timely manner.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:33:54am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

Only been there once and that was 16 years ago. The castle was nice and the old town.

Cool. We’re really looking forward to it. I’m so excited to meet European cousins.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:34:22am

re: #318 Barefoot Grin

“Heloo, this is Brad….”

“Please hold. Your air traffic safety is very important to us.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:38:03am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:38:50am

re: #322 Backwoods_Sleuth

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96 years old; that’s a good run.

RIP and thanks for the memories.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:39:26am

re: #322 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“So long….Chuck.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:39:27am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:41:42am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s news to the coal miners.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:43:06am

What exactly has Trump done for coal miners?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:43:20am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:43:24am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

Are there no reporters to say, “But sir, that’s a blatant lie!”

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:43:50am

re: #326 HappyWarrior

That’s news to the coal miners.

made them feel good

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:44:04am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

Only been there once and that was 16 years ago. The castle was nice and the old town.

I got a different question for you. Do you have any advice about teaching English in the Czech Republic? I’ll be on the job market all too soon.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:44:18am

re: #330 Birth Control Works

made them feel good

Ah the Reagan pander.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:44:42am

Morning all.
I worked last nite and have slept for 4 hrs.

What happened while I was asleep? Surely something… Lord knows Pete King is spewing on MSNBC.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:45:13am

re: #327 HappyWarrior

What exactly has Trump done for coal miners?

Made them feel better about dying of blacklung & opioid abuse after their healthcare is taken away, because “new, beautiful jobs!” are just around the corner!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:46:17am

God, my allergies are awful today. Can’t imagine how they’d be if I ahd to work in a mine.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:46:24am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:47:29am

re: #327 HappyWarrior

What exactly has Trump done for coal miners?

Used them as props.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:47:44am

re: #331 wheat-dogg

I got a different question for you. Do you have any advice about teaching English in the Czech Republic? I’ll be on the job market all too soon.

Easy to get a job here doing that, especially with your experience. Prague is the biggest market, naturally, but there are other towns too. Brno is good, Ostrava needs English teachers as well. Olomouc, not far from Ostrava, is a college town - and I don’t know if the university there has any native English speakers for teaching.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:47:54am
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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:48:01am

re: #46 Jay C

Maybe. Daniel Larison at TAC linked to a couple of analyses last Friday, though I don’t think he (or anybody) expected a diplomatic crisis to blow up this quickly. It’s complex (like most things in the Arab world), but the short version seems to be:

[…]

Please excuse my LGF campaign against Larison, and by extension, the whole of the-american-conservative-com.

I have one [old] link, for which I’ve seen no contradiction, nor have I looked. He is a ‘proud member of the league of the south.’

That, plus the linked essay, makes me doubt his analyses, and, indeed, his ability to analyze.

I apologize for not addressing the subject of your comment, but I bring this up anytime I see him being quoted, (and especially when linked) here.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:49:31am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

Easy to get a job here doing that, especially with your experience. Prague is the biggest market, naturally, but there are other towns too. Brno is good, Ostrava needs English teachers as well. Olomouc, not far from Ostrava, is a college town - and I don’t know if the university there has any native English speakers for teaching.

I should tell you and Wheat but one of my old HS buddies is teaching English in South Korea. He has great stories about it. And one of my cousins is doing the same in Thailand.

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I cannot.  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:49:31am

So, what if people back in 1914 had Twitter and the internet, what would they be feeling as all hell prepared to break loose?

Am I overly concerned when I look at the gulf situation and how it developed in just the past day, and think I’m feeling that 1914 feeling?

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:49:40am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

Easy to get a job here doing that, especially with your experience. Prague is the biggest market, naturally, but there are other towns too. Brno is good, Ostrava needs English teachers as well. Olomouc, not far from Ostrava, is a college town - and I don’t know if the university there has any native English speakers for teaching.

Cool. Is there a jobs website specifically for Czech schools? I have not seen any advertised at eslcafe.com.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:51:04am

re: #290 KGxvi

So, realistically, what does privatizing the air traffic controls really do? I’m assuming they’ll still be unionized, so does this actually accomplish anything?

Pay a premium fee to jump the line to land? “Surge” pricing to land?

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:51:19am

re: #333 Dave In Austin

Morning all.
I worked last nite and have slept for 4 hrs.

What happened while I was asleep? Surely something… Lord knows Pete King is spewing on MSNBC.

Sleep is important. Take care of yourself.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:52:12am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

I should tell you and Wheat but one of my old HS buddies is teaching English in South Korea. He has great stories about it. And one of my cousins is doing the same in Thailand.

Both of those places are on my list to check out. Thai schools start their new terms in October, so I would not be too late to find a placement.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:53:12am

re: #343 wheat-dogg

Cool. Is there a jobs website specifically for Czech schools? I have not seen any advertised at eslcafe.com.

TBH, I can’t think of any off the top of my head; eslcafe.com is what I’ve used in the past. The gig I’ve got now I just walked in and got hired.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:53:35am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:53:53am

re: #346 wheat-dogg

Both of those places are on my list to check out. Thai schools start their new terms in October, so I would not be too late to find a placement.

They both really enjoy it. My brother was trying to tell me when I was unemployed that I should look at Thailand. I think I’d be too shy for teaching though.

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Skip Intro  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:55:02am

re: #135 The Vicious Babushka

PANIC PANIC PANIC

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I have never hated anyone as much in my life as I hate Trump and his “people”. The absolute bottom of the bottom of the barrel.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:56:05am

re: #345 wrenchwench

Sleep is important. Take care of yourself.

Yeah, I know… But it’s also the 1st day of my weekend….. Coffee’s done.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:57:56am

VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY:

masstige

PRONUNCIATION:
(mas-TEEZH, -TEEJ)

MEANING:
noun: Products that have the perception of luxury, but are relatively affordable and marketed to masses.
adjective: Relating to such a product.

ETYMOLOGY:
A blend of mass market and prestige. Earliest documented use: 1996.

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:58:56am

re: #343 wheat-dogg

Cool. Is there a jobs website specifically for Czech schools? I have not seen any advertised at eslcafe.com.

I have a friend, who I hardly ever see, who is teaching English in China. Before that, he taught in a South American country, where he got married and had a son. Venezuela. Not so nice these days. Not recommended. (Both were for the same company, but I don’t know which one.)

I have a sister, who I haven’t seen in years, who went to Germany to visit my brother who lives in Berlin and works as a translator. She spoke no German when she arrived. She stayed, and now teaches German to immigrants, often from India.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 9:59:22am

re: #347 Dr Lizardo

TBH, I can’t think of any off the top of my head; eslcafe.com is what I’ve used in the past. The gig I’ve got now I just walked in and got hired.

Well, that works, too. Do you have TEFL or some other cert?

I found this helpful info just now mzv.cz

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:00:08am

re: #354 wheat-dogg

Well, that works, too. Do you have TEFL or some other cert?

I found this helpful info just now mzv.cz

Yes, I have a TEFL certificate.

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:00:17am

re: #351 Dave In Austin

Yeah, I know… But it’s also the 1st day of my weekend….. Coffee’s done.

Some things rival sleep in importance.

Refill is waiting.

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BeachDem  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:00:38am

Numbers are in for last night’s shows. Megyn did a little bit better than 60 Minutes in “the demo,” but 60 Minutes beat her in viewers. And they both got blown out by Jimmy Kimmel/Game Night

Kimmel/Game Night
18-49 rating/share 2.5/11
Viewers (millions) 8.19

Megyn/Trump’s buddy
18-49 rating/share .8/4
Viewers (millions) 6.14

60 Minutes
18-49 rating/share .6/3
Viewers (millions) 6.59

And, at 7:30, ABC’S numbers jumped to 2.9/12

Still too many watching NBC’s attempt at making Megyn Kelly happen.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:01:42am

Sharing Voluntarily Makes Young Kids Happy

Republican Adults, not so much

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:01:50am

re: #124 wheat-dogg

Can you teach Mandarin to elementary school students?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:02:47am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:02:57am

re: #349 HappyWarrior

They both really enjoy it. My brother was trying to tell me when I was unemployed that I should look at Thailand. I think I’d be too shy for teaching though.

The kids would be more shy than you. The secret is never look nervous or unsure of yourself in class. Once you show signs of hesitancy, the kids will eat you alive, figuratively speaking.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:03:15am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:04:19am

re: #147 Decatur Deb

Are you familiar with the Univ. of Maryland and Troy State U. overseas contract colleges run for the Defense Department? “Campuses” are on every major US base worldwide. Eagerness to travel would be a big plus.

My brother taught for them. Did jobs in Japan, Belgium, and Germany.

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plansbandc  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:05:51am

re: #350 Skip Intro

You and I are in complete agreement. Not a strong enough word in the English language to express my utter loathing of the orange shit bag.

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I cannot.  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:07:11am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:07:13am

re: #359 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Can you teach Mandarin to elementary school students?

I am far from qualified. Besides, I’ve concluded my teaching abilities are more suited to high school and older students.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:07:37am

re: #361 wheat-dogg

The kids would be more shy than you. The secret is never look nervous or unsure of yourself in class. Once you show signs of hesitancy, the kids will eat you alive, figuratively speaking.

Yeah I would struggle with that. It’s too bad because I think I could be a decent history teacher.

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Skip Intro  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:08:25am

re: #364 plansbandc

You and I are in complete agreement. Not a strong enough word in the English language to express my utter loathing of the orange shit bag.

Every single fucking day this complete asshole and his minions are in my face with their ignorance, bigotry, and hatred. It never stops.

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plansbandc  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:10:08am

No particular reason for this, other than it cheers me up…

Frankie Smith - Double Dutch Bus

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:11:38am

re: #367 HappyWarrior

Yeah I would struggle with that. It’s too bad because I think I could be a decent history teacher.

If you know your subject well, and you enter the classroom with a plan, you’ve got it made. The trick is to learn when it’s OK to deviate from the plan to follow a particular thread in a class discussion, but not follow it so long as to go off a tangent.

As in everything else, experience helps.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:12:11am
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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:12:16am

re: #369 plansbandc

No particular reason for this, other than it cheers me up…

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Video

No further reason necessary.

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Jay C  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:12:25am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

SRSLY/ “50,000 coal mining jobs”?
Bovine excrement excavation jobs? THAT I’d believe……

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covfefe  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:13:00am

re: #348 Dr. Matt

Chilling. Imagine if the terrorists had guns…

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:13:05am

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

Yes, I have a TEFL certificate.

I don’t, and never got around to obtaining one. So, some jobs are not available to me, but many places will accept experience in lieu of certification, so I’m OK there.

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danarchy  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:13:42am

re: #290 KGxvi

So, realistically, what does privatizing the air traffic controls really do? I’m assuming they’ll still be unionized, so does this actually accomplish anything?

Well, the UK, France, Germany and Canada have all privatized their ATC to some extent or other so they must have seen some benefit to it. Those are hardly knee jerk capitalist countries.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:13:44am

re: #356 wrenchwench

Some things rival sleep in importance.

Refill is waiting.

Yes, yes it is….
Dogs are out laying in the sun. The parrot in out on the deck taking a bath in his water bowl.
I’ll also share my Monday morning ear worm. Lordy it’s a strange show…..

Let The Mystery Be - Iris DeMent H.Q.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:13:44am

re: #88 freetoken

Jakobovici is a complete loon, so Tabor has fully discredited himself by association.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:15:23am

re: #370 wheat-dogg

If you know your subject well, and you enter the classroom with a plan, you’ve got it made. The trick is to learn when it’s OK to deviate from the plan to follow a particular thread in a class discussion, but not follow it so long as to go off a tangent.

As in everything else, experience helps.

Yeah true. I do have some moderate experience as an assistant basketball coach. Totally different thing though.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:19:54am

re: #379 HappyWarrior

Yeah true. I do have some moderate experience as an assistant basketball coach. Totally different thing though.

Not all that different. Basketball has rules and techniques. History has facts and analysis. Either way your job is to show the kids how to learn them and use them.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:20:43am
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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:22:02am

re: #376 danarchy

Well, the UK, France, Germany and Canada have all privatized their ATC to some extent or other so they must have seen some benefit to it. Those are hardly knee jerk capitalist countries.

Canada would be an interesting comparison. In an ideal country, I would wonder if privatizing could handle our traffic. In Trump world, I just wonder if each plane will have a collection plate to be filled before we land.

Those countries also have better retirement plans than us.

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Jay C  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:23:14am

re: #340 wrenchwench

Please excuse my LGF campaign against Larison, and by extension, the whole of the-american-conservative-com.

I have one [old] link, for which I’ve seen no contradiction, nor have I looked. He is a ‘proud member of the league of the south.’

That, plus the linked essay, makes me doubt his analyses, and, indeed, his ability to analyze.

I apologize for not addressing the subject of your comment, but I bring this up anytime I see him being quoted, (and especially when linked) here.

No prob, ww: your attitude is completely understandable: I always carefully filter what Larison writes: I too recall the “League of the South” reference (which he hasn’t mentioned of late): but when it comes to foreign-policy stuff, for whatever reason, I find I agree with him as often as not. Of course, he’s a determined “non-interventionist” - and flogs that position, along with the rest of his FP hobbyhorses, to death and beyond sometimes - but the stuff he aggregates isn’t always ideological BS. TAC keeps Rod Dreher on for that (unless Dreher is actually their humor blogger: it’s hard to take him seriously)…

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:23:40am

re: #366 wheat-dogg

Darn. My daughter’s elementary IB school can’t seem to get a Mandarin teacher to stay a whole year so as far as the foreign language component at her IB school, it sucks! The rest of the program and school is fantastic.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:24:07am

Two London attackers named by police

Khuram Butt, 27, was married with children and lived in Barking, east London for a number of years.

Scotland Yard said he was known to police and MI5 but there was no intelligence to suggest an attack.

The other attacker was named as Rachid Redouane, 30. The pair and one other man were shot dead by police after killing seven people and injuring 48.

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plansbandc  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:25:40am

re: #377 Dave In Austin

I LOVE this! Thank you.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:25:48am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:25:54am

re: #366 wheat-dogg

I am far from qualified. Besides, I’ve concluded my teaching abilities are more suited to high school and older students.

I did get a kick out of this. I concluded that my teaching abilities are more suited to just my own children. Too bad I spent 5 years teaching before I discovered that.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:27:52am

re: #384 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Darn. My daughter’s elementary IB school can’t seem to get a Mandarin teacher to stay a whole year so as far as the foreign language component at her IB school, it sucks! The rest of the program and school is fantastic.

Have they tried the Hanban program of the Confucius Institute? That’s a Chinese government program which places native speakers in foreign schools. One of my former students is teaching in Framingham, MA, now through that program.

Failing that, would they be willing to accept a recent college graduate from a Chinese university? I know a few hundred or so. The tricky part would be to arrange the H1B visa for the teacher.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:29:05am

re: #387 Dr. Matt

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LOLOL this fucking guy! He’s his own worst enemy!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:31:06am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:34:05am

re: #388 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Do you have my Twitter @liguy743? Send me a DM if you think your school would want a native Chinese as a teacher.

It’s 1:30 am here, so I’m going to bed. We can discuss it later.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:34:06am

re: #389 wheat-dogg

Have they tried the Hanban program of the Confucius Institute? That’s a Chinese government program which places native speakers in foreign schools. One of my former students is teaching in Framingham, MA, now through that program.

Failing that, would they be willing to accept a recent college graduate from a Chinese university? I know a few hundred or so. The tricky part would be to arrange the H1B visa for the teacher.

They’ve been getting teachers directly from China. I think that’s the problem. They don’t know what to do with American students, particularly those in low income schools who aren’t necessarily the most well-mannered.

I did want to suggest to you that there is a great need for science teachers who are comfortable with ELL students and know how to teach them.

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mmmirele  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:34:08am

re: #168 MsJ

Whenever i think of the n word, the next thing I think about is the taste of orange Dial soap. Then my mouth puckers up, and not in a good way.

Mom won on that one.

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Alephnaught  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:34:33am

(TLDR: The world’s leaders actually explained to Trump that China would take over innovation if Trump decided to leave the Paris accords.)

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:35:54am

re: #392 wheat-dogg

Do you have my Twitter @liguy743? Send me a DM if you think your school would want a native Chinese as a teacher.

It’s 1:30 am here, so I’m going to bed. We can discuss it later.

Just sent you a tweet.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:35:56am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:36:41am

re: #393 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

They’ve been getting teachers directly from China. I think that’s the problem. They don’t know what to do with American students, particularly those in low income schools who aren’t necessarily the most well-mannered.

I did want to suggest to you that there is a great need for science teachers who are comfortable with ELL students and know how to teach them.

Well, that would be me now. ;-)

Yes, I can see how the Chinese teachers would be lost in a rowdy American classroom. Especially if they don’t have much experience. My students taught three years in a Thai high school, so she was pretty seasoned by the time she ended up in Massachusetts.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:39:22am

re: #398 wheat-dogg

Well, that would be me now. ;-)

Yes, I can see how the Chinese teachers would be lost in a rowdy American classroom. Especially if they don’t have much experience. My students taught three years in a Thai high school, so she was pretty seasoned by the time she ended up in Massachusetts.

Seasoned would be good!

Just sayin’, Las Vegas has a need for science teachers like you. My husband is a physics teacher at the poorest high school in town. He loves it there!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:40:36am

Chuck C. Johnson is back doing the Birther Boogaloo again.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:42:05am

re: #400 Charles Johnson

Looks totally legit. [cough]

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:43:36am

re: #399 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Seasoned would be good!

Just sayin’, Las Vegas has a need for science teachers like you. My husband is a physics teacher at the poorest high school in town. He loves it there!

Well, I’m open to most anything right now. I’ll keep it in mind.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:43:36am

re: #400 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson is back doing the Birther Boogaloo again.

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From teh Freepers back in 2013

freerepublic.com

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:44:43am

re: #400 Charles Johnson

I like how Obama is underlined for effect. LOL.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:44:58am

To bed I go. Really. For sure.

G’night

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:45:33am

Briefing today: I think the VA Secretary is respected and hopefully the efficiencies he is announcing are significant in helping the VA.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:47:08am

re: #387 Dr. Matt

People, the lawyers and the courts can call it whatever they want, but I am calling it what we need and what it is, a TRAVEL BAN!

— Donald J. Trump

I think DT is actually regressing.

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plansbandc  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:48:16am

re: #400 Charles Johnson

This guy is advising the so called leader of our country. FFS

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:49:47am

re: #400 Charles Johnson

Watch POTUS tweet this.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:50:06am

re: #397 Dr. Matt

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Lord is such a pathetic shithead.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:50:48am
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MsJ  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:50:55am

re: #390 Dr Lizardo

LOLOL this fucking guy! He’s his own worst enemy!

Not to mention an enemy of the people.

Thank god he is as incompetent as he is. We’d be a lot worse off if any of his people had the first clue.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:51:35am

re: #400 Charles Johnson

He’s claiming that it’s Obama’s father’s and that he is going to crowd fund to release the inside, claiming that the stamps tell an interesting story. Bwahahahaha.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:53:35am

Yeah someone just found the older Obama’s passport and gave it to Chuck. Tht’ats totally believable. //

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:53:41am

re: #413 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

He’s claiming that it’s Obama’s father’s and that he is going to crowd fund to release the inside, claiming that the stamps tell an interesting story. Bwahahahaha.

“Hi, my name is Chuck, and I need some money or else the wife says I have to look for other lodgings.”

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:54:28am

Just used Tor to go to Chuck’s site, and it reported that he’s using sneaky-ass browser fingerprinting techniques to identify visitors. Never go there without Tor.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:55:06am

re: #416 Charles Johnson

Just used Tor to go to Chuck’s site, and it reported that he’s using sneaky-ass browser fingerprinting techniques to identify visitors. Never go there without Tor.

Good advice, I don’t go to his website anyhow but the guy’s a genuinely creepy bastard.

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Skip Intro  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:55:15am

Mylan chairman: Drug pricing critics ought to go copulate with themselves

According to the former employees, who requested anonymity citing nondisclosure agreements and fears of retaliation, Mylan expected outrage over its price hiking ways and planned to simply ignore it. In fact, the former executives revealed that after employees repeatedly warned about the potential for public counterblasts, the company’s chairman, Robert Coury was unmoved.

His response was summarized in this charming passage:

Mr. Coury replied that he was untroubled. He raised both his middle fingers and explained, using colorful language, that anyone criticizing Mylan, including its employees, ought to go copulate with themselves. Critics in Congress and on Wall Street, he said, should do the same. And regulators at the Food and Drug Administration? They, too, deserved a round of anatomically challenging self-fulfillment.

Coury, who received around $160 million in compensation last year from Mylan, declined to discuss the matter.

If there was ever a case for capital punishment, assholes like this top the list.

arstechnica.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:56:37am

re: #416 Charles Johnson

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:56:46am

re: #416 Charles Johnson

Just used Tor to go to Chuck’s site, and it reported that he’s using sneaky-ass browser fingerprinting techniques to identify visitors. Never go there without Tor.

Thanks for the warning. Honestly I’m good at “never go there”. Kudos for keeping a watch on those places

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:58:20am

re: #413 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

He’s claiming that it’s Obama’s father’s and that he is going to crowd fund to release the inside, claiming that the stamps tell an interesting story. Bwahahahaha.

re: #413 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

He’s claiming that it’s Obama’s father’s and that he is going to crowd fund to release the inside, claiming that the stamps tell an interesting story. Bwahahahaha.

Freepers and other wingnuts uncovered a yoge “conspiracy” in that the supposed birth date on the passport is off by 2 years versus what has been actually reported. Also, the reported eye and hair colors have discrepancy, something, something, something nothing burger.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:58:59am

re: #403 Dr. Matt

From teh Freepers back in 2013

freerepublic.com

Yep, that’s the same one. I hope Furby wasted plenty of money on that. What a dimwit.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 10:59:15am

My favorite Obama CT is that Frank Davis is Obama’s real father which would you know make the birther BS moot.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:01:26am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

My favorite Obama CT is that Frank Davis is Obama’s real father which would you know make the birther BS moot.

My favorite was one that briefly floated around in the wingnutsphere, that Malcolm X was actually Obama’s real dad.

Which again, completely nullifies the birther theory. And is sort of awesome, too.

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:02:20am

Welcome, hatchling. Not here, of course, but to the world.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:02:59am

in Columbus, Ohio:

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:03:06am

re: #424 Dr Lizardo

My favorite was one that briefly floated around in the wingnutsphere, that Malcolm X was actually Obama’s real dad.

Which again, completely nullifies the birther theory. And is sort of awesome, too.

Oh yeah, I had forgotten that one !

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:04:15am

re: #424 Dr Lizardo

My favorite was one that briefly floated around in the wingnutsphere, that Malcolm X was actually Obama’s real dad.

Which again, completely nullifies the birther theory. And is sort of awesome, too.

They would have gone on to prove that Malcolm X was not a citizen…

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MsJ  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:04:33am

re: #415 Sir John Barron

“Hi, my name is Chuck, and I need some money or else the wife says I have to look for other lodgings.”

And a real job.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:07:14am

LOL

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:08:46am

Let us not get too distracted from Dipshit Trump’s tweets. It’s almost a certainty he knows what is in store:

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Jay C  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:09:50am

re: #430 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

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“Plus, their food is crap. Really”

LOL indeed.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:09:52am

re: #430 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

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Yes pretty much. Getting offended over something you’re going to throw in the trash anyhow. But hey mock people for actually being offended over shit of real consequence, Mr. Tough Guy Conservative.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:10:16am

re: #431 Dr. Matt

Let us not get too distracted from Dipshit Trump’s tweets. It’s almost a certainty he knows what is in store:

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Yeah, good point. You can almost always predict when the shit’s about to hit the fan because Trump goes on a Twitter rampage.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:11:36am

re: #434 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, good point. You can almost always predict when the shit’s about to hit the fan because Trump goes on a Twitter rampage.

Is it too much to hope that he gives himself a rage stroke?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:12:16am

Let me just say how nice it is to have an employer who is totally understanding when you’re feeling a bit under the weather.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:12:28am

re: #434 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, good point. You can almost always predict when the shit’s about to hit the fan because Trump goes on a Twitter rampage.

Smoke screen

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:12:52am

heh

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:13:08am
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MsJ  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:13:29am

re: #432 Jay C

“Plus, their food is crap. Really”

LOL indeed.

But it’s ok when they pay people $7.00 an hour. Then it’s Freedom Food!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:13:34am

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Point, Ana.

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plansbandc  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:14:07am

Someone reminded me of this song today… This is some groovy TV.

Sergio Mendes & Brasil 66 - The Fool On The Hill (1968)

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Dave In Austin  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:14:36am

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Well played indeed

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:14:48am

re: #426 Backwoods_Sleuth

in Columbus, Ohio:

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Just up Main Street about 2 miles from me.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:15:21am

re: #430 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:15:25am

re: #435 The Vicious Babushka

Is it too much to hope that he gives himself a rage stroke?

LOL he can go out the way he believes a king should……..on the throne.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:15:25am

re: #442 plansbandc

Someone reminded me of this song today… This is some groovy TV.

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Video

Reminds me of Os Mutantes, another great Brazilian band of that era.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:15:31am

bbiab

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:15:46am

re: #445 Dr. Matt

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No surprise there.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:16:51am

Here is a mess of Katie McHugh Tweets curated for your delectation. Why did Breitbart decide to shitcan her just now?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:17:08am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:19:45am

re: #450 The Vicious Babushka

Here is a mess of Katie McHugh Tweets curated for your delectation. Why did Breitbart decide to shitcan her just now?

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Manic Pixie Dream Girl goes to Breitbart. My brother could take her to school on her ignorance of indigenous people in this continent. But yeah I’m surprised she’s only getting canned now.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:20:02am

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Snowflake needs his “accomplishments.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:21:24am

re: #452 HappyWarrior

Manic Pixie Dream Girl goes to Breitbart. My brother could take her to school on her ignorance of indigenous people in this continent. But yeah I’m surprised she’s only getting canned now.

Her talking points about native peoples are straight from the mouth hole of Ayn Rand.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:23:02am

re: #452 HappyWarrior

Manic Pixie Dream Girl goes to Breitbart. My brother could take her to school on her ignorance of indigenous people in this continent. But yeah I’m surprised she’s only getting canned now.

What does one have to do to be fired from Breitbart?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:23:14am

re: #454 The Vicious Babushka

Her talking points about native peoples are straight from the mouth hole of Ayn Rand.

Yep, good observation. There was a book I got my brother, 1491 that pretty much debunks McHugh and Rand’s idiotic view of native peoples in this country.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:23:54am

re: #455 Sir John Barron

What does one have to do to be fired from Breitbart?

Probably not be a total shit of a person i.e. the one lady who got attacked by Corey L.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:25:11am

re: #456 HappyWarrior

Yep, good observation. There was a book I got my brother, 1491 that pretty much debunks McHugh and Rand’s idiotic view of native peoples in this country.

European diseases, spread by the conquistadores, ravaged the western tribes even faster than European explorers could reach those regions.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:25:55am

re: #458 The Vicious Babushka

European diseases, spread by the conquistadores, ravaged the western tribes even faster than European explorers could reach those regions.

Exactly.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:26:14am

Sarah Huckabee quickly exits; reporter calls out, “you can stay longer….”

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:31:57am

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

Igor Bobic ✔ @igorbobic
Trump isn’t signing a bill. He’s signing a list of “principles” on air traffic control. It’s a faux bill signing ceremony. Amazing.
12:16 PM - 5 Jun 2017
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Just more “impressionistic” presidenting.

After reading the Mother Jones/Der Speigle article about Trump and the G7 meeting regarding the Paris Agreement, it almost seems like Donny has trapped himself between reality and his stupid voter base and realizes he needs to cater to them even knowing he is blowing it in many ways.

I guess he needs the love no matter what. This is not good for anyone.

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sagehen  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:32:31am

re: #456 HappyWarrior

Yep, good observation. There was a book I got my brother, 1491 that pretty much debunks McHugh and Rand’s idiotic view of native peoples in this country.

Mexico City, in 1491, had indoor plumbing. Flush toilets, hot and cold running water. Aqueducts and irrigation. They had iceboxes (runners brought it down from the mountains, daily). Trade routes connected Aztec and Inca empires, extending as far north as what’s now Missouri. The Inca had terraced farms that used minimal water because it went through multiple levels (no runoff). Inca fabrics were so fine nobody in Europe could match them to this day. Inca gold-work techniques so fine Europeans needed 100 years to reverse engineer the methods.

Plus, of course… cocaine, tequila, chocolate and popcorn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:32:58am
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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:33:42am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:34:17am

re: #462 sagehen

Mexico City, in 1491, had indoor plumbing. Flush toilets, hot and cold running water. Aqueducts and irrigation. They had iceboxes (runners brought it down from the mountains, daily). Trade routes connected Aztec and Inca empires, extending as far north as what’s now Missouri. The Inca had terraced farms that used minimal water because it went through multiple levels (no runoff). Inca fabrics were so fine nobody in Europe could match them to this day. Inca gold-work techniques so fine Europeans needed 100 years to reverse engineer the methods.

Plus, of course… cocaine, tequila, chocolate and popcorn.

and BOOKS! Similar to egyptian papyrus, IIRC.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:37:23am

re: #462 sagehen

Mexico City, in 1491, had indoor plumbing. Flush toilets, hot and cold running water. Aqueducts and irrigation. They had iceboxes (runners brought it down from the mountains, daily). Trade routes connected Aztec and Inca empires, extending as far north as what’s now Missouri. The Inca had terraced farms that used minimal water because it went through multiple levels (no runoff). Inca fabrics were so fine nobody in Europe could match them to this day. Inca gold-work techniques so fine Europeans needed 100 years to reverse engineer the methods.

Plus, of course… cocaine, tequila, chocolate and popcorn.

Don’t forget roads.

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:38:01am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:38:25am

re: #462 sagehen

Mexico City, in 1491, had indoor plumbing. Flush toilets, hot and cold running water. Aqueducts and irrigation. They had iceboxes (runners brought it down from the mountains, daily). Trade routes connected Aztec and Inca empires, extending as far north as what’s now Missouri. The Inca had terraced farms that used minimal water because it went through multiple levels (no runoff). Inca fabrics were so fine nobody in Europe could match them to this day. Inca gold-work techniques so fine Europeans needed 100 years to reverse engineer the methods.

Plus, of course… cocaine, tequila, chocolate and popcorn.

Exactly the premise of the book I was talking about. Anoyne who thinks indigenous people were “just living living in teepees” is an idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:39:32am

re: #464 Nyet

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Maybe if Breitbart’s firing you, that should be a hint but nah.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:39:50am

re: #468 HappyWarrior

Exactly the premise of the book I was talking about. Anoyne who thinks indigenous people were “just living living in teepees” is an idiot.

Cahokia.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:44:19am

re: #470 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cahokia.

Something that McHugh probably would have learned about in school. She looks about my age anyhow if not younger.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:45:21am

Well, good night Lizards. Up early for work tomorrow.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:46:33am

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:48:03am

Katie has psychotic eyes.

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:49:13am

I saw three whiptails yesterday. Female, because they all are. Parthenogenesis, ya know.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:49:35am

re: #475 Nyet

Katie has psychotic eyes.

HAd the same observation.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:50:43am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:50:57am

re: #464 Nyet

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:51:24am

re: #477 HappyWarrior

HAd the same observation.

Yep. Reminds me of the overbearing girlfriend meme.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:51:50am

re: #480 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep. Reminds me of the overbearing girlfriend meme.

I was thinking Zooey Deschanel if Zooey was a right wing lunatic.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:52:49am

Next time you want to quote Reza Aslan think about this tweet:

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:53:35am

Is someone blaspheming the name of Zooey Deschanel? Is nothing sacred around here!??!?!?!??!?!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:53:36am

re: #482 Nyet

Next time you want to quote Reza Aslan think about this tweet:

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WTF.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:53:54am

re: #479 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Katie can now spend her entire “life” earning wingnut welfare by writing shitty books, appearing on Fox, having a podcast, and blogging.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:54:19am

re: #483 Sir John Barron

Is someone blaspheming the name of Zooey Deschanel? Is nothing sacred around here!??!?!?!??!?!

Hahahhaha I actually have a crush on Zooey. I think the dark hair, light eyes is a beautiful combination.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:54:40am

re: #485 Dr. Matt

Katie can now spend her entire “life” earning wingnut welfare by writing shitty books, appearing on Fox, having a podcast, and blogging.

Basically she can be millennial Ann Coulter.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:55:04am

Conservatives response to Flint, Michigan’s contaminated water problem: “Let them drink dirty water.”

rawstory.com

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:55:23am

re: #488 DodgerFan1988

Conservatives response to Flint, Michigan’s contaminated water problem: “Let them drink dirty water.”

rawstory.com

MAGA, indeed.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:55:26am

re: #486 HappyWarrior

Hahahhaha I actually have a crush on Zooey. I think the dark hair, light eyes is a beautiful combination.

Of course she’s beautiful. It’s just that she can’t act.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:55:42am

Our millneial wingnuts are just as bad as the Boomers’, Gen X, and the older generation. Want ot know why I don’t judge people simply of their age? CCJ is a year younger than me. The candidate I’m working for delegate is a grandmother.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:56:07am

re: #490 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Of course she’s beautiful. It’s just that she can’t act.

Wait she’s acting as Jess Day? ?!?! //

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:56:32am

re: #488 DodgerFan1988

Conservatives response to Flint, Michigan’s contaminated water problem: “Let them drink dirty water.”

rawstory.com

But hey they’re not racist because of what the parties were 160 years ago. //

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:56:35am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

My favorite Obama CT is that Frank Davis is Obama’s real father which would you know make the birther BS moot.

My favorite is that Obama is the son of Jimmie Hendrix. Stupid because it would negate the birther issue. Also, if it was true, why would he want to hide that fact? “I’m the son of Jimmie Hendrix” would have been the greatest campaign slogan ever. The Republicans probably wouldn’t have bothered to run a candidate against him.

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sagehen  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:58:20am

re: #490 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Of course she’s beautiful. It’s just that she can’t act.

As long as the writers keep the character within her very narrow range, she doesn’t need to be able to act.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 11:58:31am

re: #494 Ace-o-aces

My favorite is that Obama is the son of Jimmie Hendrix. Stupid because it would negate the birther issue. Also, if it was true, why would he want to hide that fact? “I’m the son of Jimmie Hendrix” would have been the greatest campaign slogan ever. The Republicans probably wouldn’t have bothered to run a candidate against him.

Now that one I never heard. IT reminds me of Obama finding out he was a very very distant cousin of Dick Cheney and musing he wanted to be related to Willie Mays. Can’t say I blame him. I’m sure some wingnut asshole twisted that to mean Obama was “Ashamed” of his mother’s European heritage though.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:00:05pm

re: #493 HappyWarrior

But hey they’re not racist because of what the parties were 160 years ago. //

“Black People are the real racists!”

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:00:34pm

re: #468 HappyWarrior

Exactly the premise of the book I was talking about. Anoyne who thinks indigenous people were “just living living in teepees” is an idiot.

I don’t know tons about the central Ohio native peoples, but my understanding is the Adena native peoples had more going for it than teepees and roaming around. They had actual constructed houses made of tree limbs and bark and lived in fairly permanent villages. They had tools and fabrics and lived well above an animal lifestyle. And this was 1000 to 200 BC.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:02:21pm

re: #498 ObserverArt

I don’t know tons about the central Ohio native peoples, but my understanding is the Adena native peoples had more going for it than teepees and roaming around. They had actual constructed houses made of tree limbs and bark and lived in fairly permanent villages. They had tools and fabrics and lived well above an animal lifestyle. And this was 1000 to 200 BC.

Another fact that Euro-racists fail to mention is that Asian civilization preceded Europe by millennia.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:02:30pm

Funnily enough, I am almost relaetd to Zooey’s lookalike and favorite wingnut punching bag, Katy Perry and that’s a true story. Katy’s maternal grandfather was first married to a distant cousin of mine.

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Bass Reeves  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:02:48pm

re: #482 Nyet

Was Akin not the guy saying rape is God’s will?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:02:58pm

re: #499 The Vicious Babushka

Another fact that Euro-racists fail to mention is that Asian civilization preceded Europe by millennia.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:03:14pm

re: #501 Bass Reeves

Was Akin not the guy saying rape is God’s will?

Akin was Mr. Legitimate Rape.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:03:31pm

God’s Will Rape was Dick Mourdock who beat Dick Lugar in a primary.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:04:22pm

re: #501 Bass Reeves

Sure.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:04:22pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:05:34pm

re: #504 HappyWarrior

God’s Will Rape was Dick Mourdock who beat Dick Lugar in a primary.

I always thought that guy was a dick.

/

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:05:56pm

re: #496 HappyWarrior

Now that one I never heard. IT reminds me of Obama finding out he was a very very distant cousin of Dick Cheney and musing he wanted to be related to Willie Mays. Can’t say I blame him. I’m sure some wingnut asshole twisted that to mean Obama was “Ashamed” of his mother’s European heritage though.

Jack Cashill came up with that one:
wonkette.com

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:06:03pm

re: #473 Teukka

*sigh*
US Congressman Instructs ‘Christendom’ to Kill Every ‘Radicalized Islamic Suspect’

Louisiana. Why am I not surprised? Ex cop too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:06:19pm

re: #506 Belafon

[pedant]The capital city of our closest ally is Ottawa[/pedant]

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:06:21pm

re: #508 Eclectic Cyborg

I always thought that guy was a dick.

Dick Lugar, ironically not a dick. He was probably one of hte last Senate Republicans I respected.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:06:39pm

re: #400 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson is back doing the Birther Boogaloo again.

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So this one is real? Does that mean that all the others were fakes?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:06:51pm

re: #509 Ace-o-aces

Jack Cashill came up with that one:
wonkette.com

Damn I missed that one.

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sagehen  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:07:07pm

The Iroquois Confederacy (in what’s now upstate NY) is the oldest living participatory democracy on Earth.

ratical.org

They were invited to speak at the continental congress in June 1776; Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin used some of their ideas when making suggestions for US Gov’t.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:07:12pm

re: #511 The Vicious Babushka

[pedant]The capital city of our closest ally is Ottawa[/pedant]

I don’t think they meant distance.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:08:50pm

re: #511 The Vicious Babushka

[pedant]The capital city of our closest ally is Ottawa[/pedant]

At least at the moment. Trump is well on the way to fucking that up too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:09:52pm

re: #517 Eclectic Cyborg

At least at the moment. Trump is well on the way to fucking that up too.

We’ll have great bigly relations though with Putin though!

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No Depression  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:12:13pm

Katie McHugh may soon be the new girl at the Daily Stormer.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:13:12pm

re: #510 ObserverArt

Louisiana. Why am I not surprised? Ex cop too.

Morans Labia!!! Another Oaf Kreeper!

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:13:14pm

re: #519 No Depression

Katie McHugh may soon be the new girl at the Daily Stormer.

More seriously, something like Vdare or some other Nazi-lite org.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:14:18pm

PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE!!!

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caseyjr  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:14:35pm

re: #507 gocart mozart

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For dog’s sake get that pugilistic kitty a flatscreen!

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:14:46pm

re: #522 The Vicious Babushka

I knew she was off her meds.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:15:30pm

re: #522 The Vicious Babushka

PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE!!!

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Jesus that’s some pathetic grifting.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:15:31pm

re: #522 The Vicious Babushka

Donate here so I can pay my medical bills and get employed again. And keep telling the truth. wesearchr.com #LondonBridge

— Katie McHugh🇺🇸

Great, another Rage Furby panhandling on the intertubes.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:16:25pm

re: #513 I Would Prefer Not To

So this one is real? Does that mean that all the others were fakes?

It turns out Obama was a Brit. Who knew?

/

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:17:12pm

re: #525 HappyWarrior

Jesus that’s some pathetic grifting.

Seems to be what these people do best.

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gocart mozart  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:17:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:17:32pm

re: #528 Eclectic Cyborg

Seems to be what these people do best.

OF course.

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plansbandc  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:18:03pm

re: #476 wrenchwench

It’s a huge year for lizards. See all sorts on my walks and have several living in our yard.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:19:14pm

re: #529 gocart mozart

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Atta’ll do lad

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:19:28pm

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Dave In Austin  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:20:44pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:20:48pm

I thought CCJ’s wesearcher. com was gone. So, just him running the grift machine now I guess.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:22:04pm

re: #462 sagehen

[snip]

Plus, of course… cocaine, tequila, chocolate and popcorn.

I kinda like their food pyramid better than ours.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:25:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:26:26pm

re: #537 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Of cours.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:27:34pm

Shit far be it for me to praise George W Bush but he enver attacked Ken Livingstone following the attacks in London in 2005.

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Jack Burton  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:27:34pm

re: #534 Dave In Austin

Donate here so I can pay my medical bills and get employed again. And keep telling the truth ignorant garbage like ‘there would be no terrorism in the UK and Europe if they had no Muslims”, completely ignoring the existence of the IRA, ETA, RAF, etc. Because I’m a wingnut millennial with no sense of historical perspective before 0bummer.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:30:24pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:30:52pm

Pence is so full of shit…

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Stanley Sea  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:32:12pm

re: #542 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pence is so full of shit…

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Where’s Ivanka?

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Jack Burton  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:33:20pm

re: #541 Nyet

Open up a 50 year old case… because Teh Juice!!!111ty

They can’t even pretend to not be anti-Semites anymore can they?

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dangerman  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:33:25pm

re: #522 The Vicious Babushka

PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE!!!

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a perfect picture of personal responsibility in the age of no government safety net

dont save your own money in advance in case something unforeseen happens

just beg

though i dont see how donating to pay your medical bills gets you employed

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:33:58pm

re: #542 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pence is so full of shit…

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Why are there so many womens in that picture?

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TedStriker  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:34:05pm

re: #542 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pence is so full of shit…

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Also notice, no one in that pic is darker than a paper bag.

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Kragar  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:34:11pm
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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:34:36pm

Just a reminder: the IRA terrorism is not history. At least 4 acts of terror only this year.

en.m.wikipedia.org

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:34:39pm

re: #545 dangerman

a perfect picture of personal responsibility in the age of no government safety net

dont save your own money in advance in case something unforeseen happens

just beg

though i dont see how donating to pay your medical bills gets you employed

The ACA hasn’t been repealed yet.

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dangerman  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:35:37pm

re: #542 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pence is so full of shit…

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he just conflated “woman-owned” with “small”

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BeachDem  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:37:14pm

re: #542 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pence is so full of shit…

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I know I’m not a math major, but if:

11.3M biz in America are women-owned, employing nearly 9M people

do 2.3M of them employ no people and the rest one each? (Or am I missing something…)

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Kragar  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:37:20pm
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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:37:41pm

re: #550 The Vicious Babushka

The ACA hasn’t been repealed yet.

It is repealed. I repealed it. House voted. Stop watching failing CNN and NYTimes. House voted. Repealed.

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Jack Burton  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:39:36pm

re: #552 BeachDem

I know I’m not a math major, but if:

11.3M biz in America are women-owned, employing nearly 9M people

do 2.3M of them employ no people and the rest one each? (Or am I missing something…)

You are expecting this particular Administration to do Math? Correctly?

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:41:19pm

re: #450 The Vicious Babushka

Here is a mess of Katie McHugh Tweets curated for your delectation. Why did Breitbart decide to shitcan her just now?

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She wouldn’t put out?

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:41:33pm

re: #550 The Vicious Babushka

The ACA hasn’t been repealed yet.

No self-respecting wingnut is ever going to sign up for Obamacare. That would be career killing. Better just to die pure.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:41:55pm

re: #557 Romantic Heretic

She wouldn’t put out?

She must have said something bad about Great Leader Trump.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:43:09pm
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No Depression  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:43:59pm

Trump is ruining the exclamation point for me. He’s gonna have the same effect on punctuation that Hitler did on facial hair.

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dangerman  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:44:39pm

re: #558 ObserverArt

No self-respecting wingnut is ever going to sign up for Obamacare. That would be career killing. Better just to die pure.

right - as opposed to saving for the inevitable future emergency / catastrophe that they keep telling everyone else to “responsibly” do

and after putting away 10% for your own retirement
let alone food, clothing shelter, basic transportation…

she didnt plan ahead so she’s gotta beg

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Joe Bacon  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:44:44pm

re: #522 The Vicious Babushka

PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE!!!

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Those who live like Ayn Rand wind up the same way.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:46:01pm

re: #558 ObserverArt

No self-respecting wingnut is ever going to sign up for Obamacare. That would be career killing. Better just to die pure.

It won’t be Obamacare to them. It will be private insurance. Like the Heritage plan. Obamacare is socialism and evil.

/

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danarchy  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:46:26pm

re: #546 The Vicious Babushka

Why are there so many womens in that picture?

Based on the tweet I am assuming they are all small business owners.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:47:26pm

re: #553 Kragar

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One thing I noticed on 9-11: People who were right there, in Manhattan and DC, were much less likely to panic and over-react than those whose involvement was entirely through media coverage. Hell, people went completely apeshit in Lubbock that day and I remember spending some time telling them to get a grip. It was very bad, unprecedented in fact, but the basic strength of the nation was unaffected and most of us were unaffected personally and could go on with our work and our daily lives.

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covfefe  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:47:28pm

re: #431 Dr. Matt

All this shit that’s about to drop on him. I have no doubt it’s bad for him. But the Republicans won’t do a god damn thing. No matter how bad it is.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:47:56pm

re: #537 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So why don’t you think so you pathetic bitch? Of course I mean that in the nicest way.

EDIT: When I got back down and read it again it sounded like I was aiming at you Backwoods. The tweet people, the tweet.

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gocart mozart  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:51:20pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:53:34pm

re: #569 gocart mozart

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13/10

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:55:39pm

re: #570 The Vicious Babushka

13/10

Would lick again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:57:08pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:57:20pm

re: #567 covfefe

All this shit that’s about to drop on him. I have no doubt it’s bad for him. But the Republicans won’t do a god damn thing. No matter how bad it is.

You’re right the Republicans in Congress will do nothing. They will however stand by and watch Trump get cut down.

They are in the classic rock and hard place position. If they act like they want Trump gone his angry base will take it out on them. Why? Same base as Trump is what they count on for votes but hope they can keep somewhat in control once in office.

And they won’t do anything to stop the Democrats and special investigations because I have a felling they see he needs to go and it all needs to be done. I think they hope enough dirt comes out the base they fear but count on sees it too.

Do it for the country? Not until whatever they do does it for them first. GOP ass saving is in fashion.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 12:59:10pm

re: #569 gocart mozart

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And the doggo is ‘milking’ this for all the loving licks available.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:00:59pm
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sagehen  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:03:25pm

re: #574 ObserverArt

And the doggo is ‘milking’ this for all the loving licks available.

I dunno, his eyes look a little… alarmed?

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dangerman  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:04:36pm

re: #572 Backwoods_Sleuth

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if a “pre-emptive vasectomy” is your way of taking some personal responsibility for avoiding an otherwise unintended pregnancy, i dont give a rats ass why you think you’re doing it

just like the 2A. control you weapon and secure your ammo at all times.

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danarchy  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:04:37pm

re: #575 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Do they not have any sort of secret service analog in canada?

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:04:46pm

LOL so sweet themindcircle.com

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:05:42pm

re: #576 sagehen

Yes, but still, he was not cowed.

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sagehen  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:06:03pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:06:39pm

re: #576 sagehen

I dunno, his eyes look a little… alarmed?

Doggo would run off if scared. Maybe I an reading it wrong, but seems to be like warm wet ear scritches.

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:08:02pm

re: #582 ObserverArt

Doggo would run off if scared. Maybe I an reading it wrong, but seems to be like warm wet ear scritches.

He’s just glad he doesn’t look (or taste) like a flake of hay.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:08:17pm

re: #476 wrenchwench

So that’s what happens when you take your lizard to the Aquarium Of The Pacific

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:09:08pm

I can’t help it. I always think of Kellyanne Conway’s husband as Georgeanne when I hear him mentioned in the news.

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:10:41pm

re: #584 Unshaken Defiance

So that’s what happens when you take your lizard to the Aquarium Of The Pacific

Had to google it:

Rainbow Harbor in Long Beach, California,

I get it.

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danarchy  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:12:11pm

re: #582 ObserverArt

Doggo would run off if scared. Maybe I an reading it wrong, but seems to be like warm wet ear scritches.

Has the same posture and look my dog does does when I am making her do something she doesn’t really want to. Like bathing, or de-shedding, or being examined by the vet. She will put up with it but as soon as you are done she will run off 10 or 15 feet and shake it off as if to say ‘glad that’s over’

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:16:34pm

re: #578 danarchy

Do they not have any sort of secret service analog in canada?

Yes but we have gun control in Canada.

And far less crazy people.

Trudeau was being monitored from the shore I’m certain.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:16:46pm

re: #572 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:20:08pm

Definitely NOT a terrorist (i.e., he’s white has wonderbread)

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:30:35pm

re: #416 Charles Johnson

Just used Tor to go to Chuck’s site, and it reported that he’s using sneaky-ass browser fingerprinting techniques to identify visitors. Never go there without Tor.

Is he using Flash cookies (the kind that can’t be deleted w/out some serious System-Registry-fu) or is it a nasty JavaScript injection into the cookies folder that can’t be deleted (but that can be blocked by Ghostery or NoScript)?

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:42:15pm

re: #466 The Vicious Babushka

Don’t forget roads.

Other than that, what have the Incas and Aztecs done for us? ////

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:44:10pm

re: #572 Backwoods_Sleuth

I support douche bags like this getting a vasectomy.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:47:30pm

re: #478 Dr. Matt

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I love how Illinois is Illinois.

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retired cynic  Jun 5, 2017 • 6:33:24pm

re: #462 sagehen

I loved that book. Really stretched my mind in a good way.


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