Yes, Folks, It’s Another Unhinged, Self-Defeating Rage-Tweeting Binge From Our So-Called President

He’s losing his already tenuous grasp on reality
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He’s getting more unhinged every day, and he has the power to launch America’s nuclear arsenal on 5 minutes’ notice. Today’s case in point: this series of bizarre, self-defeating early morning tweets in which he sabotages his own legal positions again, seems to forget that he actually signed what he’s calling a “watered down Travel Ban,” tweets to “Fox & Friends” about the “Dems” being “obstructionists” (all in caps), and once again attacks the Mayor of London for not spreading panic like Trump is.

He never had much of a grasp on reality outside his bubble, but becoming president has clearly driven this guy over the brink. His mental state is deteriorating rapidly.

Meanwhile…

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319 comments

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:18:18pm

If he seriously thinks this is going to help him, he’s even more demented than I thought.

2
Ace-o-aces  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:18:21pm

Posted this before, but bears repeating:

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covfefe  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:18:52pm

Proverbial nukes can be dropped on Trump and his administration, but when the majority Republicans in Congress just tow the party line, said proverbial nukes will have no effect.

Everything hinges on 2018.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:19:38pm

Theory 1: Trump is doing all this insanely stupid and self defeating shit to convince Republicans to Impeach him because he really doesn’t want to be President anymore.

Theory 2: There is no grand scheme and Trump really is that fucking stupid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:20:50pm
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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:20:56pm

From below:

Definitely NOT a terrorist (i.e., he’s white as wonderbread)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:22:40pm

re: #6 Dr. Matt

That is one sorry ass goatee.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:23:07pm

This would be funny, but sad if he wasn’t the fucking President.

As it is, it’s frightening. We’re one domestic attack away from seeing the worst of this asshole, and while everyone pretty much knows his response will be extreme and vindictive, what I fear they don’t realize is that it will also be wildly misdirected.

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dangerman  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:23:49pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

2

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KGxvi  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:29:15pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Theory 1: Trump is doing all this insanely stupid and self defeating shit to convince Republicans to Impeach him because he really doesn’t want to be President anymore.

Theory 2: There is no grand scheme and Trump really is that fucking stupid.

I’m going with “C: both A and B”

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Skip Intro  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:29:57pm

re: #3 covfefe

Proverbial nukes can be dropped on Trump and his administration, but when the majority Republicans in Congress just tow the party line, said proverbial nukes will have no effect.

Everything hinges on 2018.

And the GOP plans to make how horribly trump has been treated by the media into their major campaign issue.

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Kragar  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:31:20pm
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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:33:51pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:34:10pm

See, this is one of the reasons why the GOP loathes the idea of the man being impeached. Any defense they made of him in the Senate in order to avoid conviction would be undermined by his total inability to keep his mouth shut when he’s worked up.

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Skip Intro  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:34:54pm

I’m waiting for trump’s Muslim ban to make it to the Supremes and be declared unconstitutional. Then the shit is really going to hit the fan.

Will trump accept their decision? I say no, he won’t. That’s when we’ll get to see if we still have a country.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:35:38pm

re: #2 Ace-o-aces

Posted this before, but bears repeating:

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:36:21pm

re: #15 Skip Intro

I’m waiting for trump’s Muslim ban to make it to the Supremes and be declared unconstitutional. Then the shit is really going to hit the fan.

Will trump accept their decision? I say no, he won’t. That’s when we’ll get to see if we still have a country.

I really hope the decision will hinge on Trump’s single tweet.

That would be sweeeet.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:36:54pm

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

That is one sorry ass goatee.

Soul patch. I bet he thinks it’s cool.

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:39:15pm

10 more before those, starting with Katie McHugh.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:42:38pm
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covfefe  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:44:14pm

re: #15 Skip Intro

I’m waiting for trump’s Muslim ban to make it to the Supremes and be declared unconstitutional. Then the shit is really going to hit the fan.

Will trump accept their decision? I say no, he won’t. That’s when we’ll get to see if we still have a country.

I want Gorsuch to vote against… Boy, that’ll really stick in his craw.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:44:29pm

re: #20 darthstar

Should keep tar and feathers ready if Trump tries to repeat this.

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:44:37pm

(from below)

Just used Tor to go to Chuck’s site, and it reported that he’s using sneaky-ass browser fingerprinting techniques to identify visitors. Never go there without Tor.

Is he using Flash cookies (the kind that can’t be deleted w/out some serious System-Registry-fu) or is it a nasty JavaScript injection into the cookies folder that can’t be deleted (but that can be blocked by Ghostery or NoScript)?

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:44:59pm

(asking for a friend, and wondering if I need to fumigate my hard drive)

(again)

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:47:46pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Theory 1: Trump is doing all this insanely stupid and self defeating shit to convince Republicans to Impeach him because he really doesn’t want to be President anymore.

Theory 2: There is no grand scheme and Trump really is that fucking stupid.

I vote for two.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:48:57pm
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SteelPH  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:49:08pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Theory 1: Trump is doing all this insanely stupid and self defeating shit to convince Republicans to Impeach him because he really doesn’t want to be President anymore.

Theory 2: There is no grand scheme and Trump really is that fucking stupid.

Yes.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:49:18pm

re: #13 Dr. Matt

I’m old enough to remember when GW Bush said, “I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue.”

What happened, and was it Obama’s fault?

/

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Jack Burton  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:49:54pm

re: #23 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

(from below)

Is he using Flash cookies (the kind that can’t be deleted w/out some serious System-Registry-fu) or is it a nasty JavaScript injection into the cookies folder that can’t be deleted (but that can be blocked by Ghostery or NoScript)?

This.

I see that a lot on Tor, even from sites that aren’t “supposed” to be creepy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:51:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:51:18pm

LOL!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:52:28pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

that’s just sad.

:D

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:53:11pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Is he holding some kind of sword in those photos?

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:54:10pm

Ok, well, I just watched a sort of Real Life Horror Story.

Grey Gardens

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:54:38pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

LOL!

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Is he preparing for a life in VR?

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:55:50pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Theory 1: Trump is doing all this insanely stupid and self defeating shit to convince Republicans to Impeach him because he really doesn’t want to be President anymore.

Theory 2: There is no grand scheme and Trump really is that fucking stupid.

Oh, I think he is profiting immensely from his position and wouldn’t change it for the world.

So, #2.

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covfefe  Jun 5, 2017 • 1:58:35pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

OMG the possible memes!

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:01:17pm
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bratwurst  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:02:08pm

White House aides say media ‘obsessed’ with Trump tweets, claim social media isn’t policy

I think I might have come up with a solution to this problem, but I warn you…it’s pretty radical.

Are you ready?

The POTUS should not tweet.

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jaunte  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:03:17pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

To think he gave up a promising career as a Zach Galifianakis stunt double.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:03:21pm

2nd tweet today I see with 666 RTs.

Kaivan Shroff‏ @KaivanShroff May 31
More
Now is the time to shame Jill Steins & Susan Sarandons of the world. America is about compromise, being a brat gets us here. #ParisAgreement
87 replies 666 retweets 1,737 likes
Reply 87 Retweet 666
Like 1.7K Direct message

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nines09  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:04:28pm

OT
Your early evening cut. USDA Prime grade….

You’re My Girl (I Don’t Want To Discuss It)

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:04:42pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

LOL!

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He swings his sword like a girl. Not Wonder Woman…I watched that yesterday and she swings a sword like a trained Amazon soldier.

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jaunte  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:05:02pm

re: #39 bratwurst

“Any presidential statement that hurts our legal case is not policy.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:08:07pm
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bratwurst  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:11:00pm
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dangerman  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:11:28pm

re: #39 bratwurst

White House aides say media ‘obsessed’ with Trump tweets, claim social media isn’t policy

I think I might have come up with a solution to this problem, but I warn you…it’s pretty radical.

Are you ready?

The POTUS should not tweet.

“what the president says are not his policies”

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:11:50pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

LOL!

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An otherwise “healthy” 20-something should never be that out-of-shape. He looks awful.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:12:21pm

The tweets are the part of Trumps message they can’t control and they aren’t about to tell him to stop lest they’d be quickly out of a job.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:14:59pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:18:09pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:18:52pm

That’s it, I’m staying.

/was never planning to go

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:20:33pm

In other news…I’m looking at getting one of these little things…Friend’s cattle dog just had pups and Banjo needs a little brother/sister…I can’t stop looking at this fuckin’ pic.

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covfefe  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:23:31pm

130 British imams refuse to bury the terrorists.

cnn.com

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:25:31pm

re: #54 covfefe

*shrug* Dump them into sewer.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:26:37pm

re: #53 darthstar

In other news…I’m looking at getting one of these little things…Friend’s cattle dog just had pups and Banjo needs a little brother/sister…I can’t stop looking at this fuckin’ pic.

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Cattle Dog’s are my favorite breed. Were both parents the same breed?

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KGxvi  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:27:04pm

re: #52 wrenchwench

I wonder if he has to give up his knighthood to become an American citizen? I know he doesn’t have to give up his British citizenship, but I wonder if the knighthood counts as a foreign title.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:28:42pm

re: #52 wrenchwench

That’s it, I’m staying.

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/was never planning to go

The British know how to fight.

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majii  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:28:53pm

re: #47 dangerman

“”what the president says are not his policies”“

I’ve thought for some time now that Trump’s own worst enemy is Trump. His impulsive behavior compels him to lose control and tweet things that WH aides will later attempt to “clean up.” I want him to keep tweeting because it provides insight into what his real positions are on issues/policies, and tweets can be preserved and could be used as evidence in cases involving his policies.

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calochortus  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:29:11pm

Would it be rude to point out that Trump might have better luck getting, say, ambassadors confirmed if he nominated some? I looked at this list and I only saw 6 nominations (mostly from late May) and 57 vacancies with no nominations. There were 3 additional vacancies, but they were for countries we don’t exchange ambassadors with, so I didn’t count them.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:30:29pm

bbl

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KGxvi  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:33:00pm

re: #60 calochortus

Would it be rude to point out that Trump might have better luck getting, say, ambassadors confirmed if he nominated some? I looked at this list and I only saw 6 nominations (mostly from late May) and 57 vacancies with no nominations. There were 3 additional vacancies, but they were for countries we don’t exchange ambassadors with, so I didn’t count them.

One of the good things is that most of the ambassadors currently assigned to posts are career diplomats, so at least there’s less of a chance of them fucking shit up.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:33:02pm
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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:33:22pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:34:01pm

re: #60 calochortus

Would it be rude to point out that Trump might have better luck getting, say, ambassadors confirmed if he nominated some? I looked at this list and I only saw 6 nominations (mostly from late May) and 57 vacancies with no nominations. There were 3 additional vacancies, but they were for countries we don’t exchange ambassadors with, so I didn’t count them.

Who needs ambassadors if all you care about is looting?

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caseyjr  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:34:19pm

re: #53 darthstar

In other news…I’m looking at getting one of these little things…Friend’s cattle dog just had pups and Banjo needs a little brother/sister…I can’t stop looking at this fuckin’ pic.

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I once had an Australian Cattle dog, is was fiercely a one-man dog. Incredible watchdog was Bonnie.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:34:30pm

re: #53 darthstar

In other news…I’m looking at getting one of these little things…Friend’s cattle dog just had pups and Banjo needs a little brother/sister…I can’t stop looking at this fuckin’ pic.

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I take it the crazy coloring and markings of their coats develop as they grow. Those pups look too white.

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gocart mozart  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:35:43pm

re: #50 Nyet

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:36:08pm
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calochortus  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:37:17pm

re: #62 KGxvi

One of the good things is that most of the ambassadors currently assigned to posts are career diplomats, so at least there’s less of a chance of them fucking shit up.

That is a plus. On the other hand, he’s whining about Dems being responsible for his administration not doing what it should after he let the existing people go. That argues a special kind of stupid. Or it would if anyone ever got around to asking him about it.

“Mr. Trump, can you provide a list of the nominees that haven’t been confirmed by the Senate for us? We do want to report this accurately.”

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KGxvi  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:39:20pm

re: #70 calochortus

That is a plus. On the other hand, he’s whining about Dems being responsible for his administration not doing what it should after he let the existing people go. That argues a special kind of stupid. Or it would if anyone ever got around to asking him about it.

“Mr. Trump, can you provide a list of the nominees that haven’t been confirmed by the Senate for us? We do want to report this accurately.”

“A Special Kind of Stupid” should be the title on a book about the Trump presidency when all is said and done.

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:40:40pm

re: #63 Nyet

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Second retweet not allowed by… something.

Probably usually a good thing, for me at least.

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covfefe  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:41:48pm

re: #69 Dr. Matt

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gocart mozart  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:43:10pm
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jaunte  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:44:07pm
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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:44:11pm

re: #73 covfefe

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This seems to be the latest Nazi talking point. Somehow mayors are suppose to prevent terrorist attacks now. FFS.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:44:18pm

re: #56 Dr. Matt

Cattle Dog’s are my favorite breed. Were both parents the same breed?

I think so. We have one already. Just really good timing with the pups as it’s summer and neither of us can do any traveling until September. Hopefully we’ll be able to pick it up in 6 - 8 weeks.

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jaunte  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:46:47pm

re: #73 covfefe

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:47:08pm

Sound on.

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KerFuFFler  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:47:19pm

re: #75 jaunte

Trump wants to pick a fight with London’s mayor because he is muslim. Trump did not pick a fight with the mayor of Manchester after an even more deadly attack.

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:49:42pm
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caseyjr  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:50:14pm

re: #77 darthstar

I think so. We have one already. Just really good timing with the pups as it’s summer and neither of us can do any traveling until September. Hopefully we’ll be able to pick it up in 6 - 8 weeks.

If you have room for them to run around, you can’t do better than a working-group dog. My top fave doges are from that group.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:51:58pm

re: #76 Dr. Matt

‘Liberal’ mayors are supposed to stop terrorist attacks. ‘Conservative’ mayors know that shit happens and no one should be held responsible except those ‘damn [bigoted word]s’.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:51:59pm

Some things to unpack here: 1st, apparently Reality Winner is a real person’s name. 2nd, the Administration’s war on leakers & the press is just beginning. I hope reporters are leveling up their tradecraft in response to the threat.

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caseyjr  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:52:14pm

re: #79 wrenchwench

Sound on.

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headphone users RIP (as we say on youtube)
Wasn’t that sound used for some magical creature in Harry Potter? Sounds really familiar.

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gocart mozart  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:52:38pm
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Joe Bacon  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:52:54pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

LOL!

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Is this where we’re supposed to start singing “Kung-Fu Fighting”?

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Jack Burton  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:54:00pm

re: #74 gocart mozart

I just had an epiphany. Among the scores of other names I’ve called Clownstick, I have indeed compared him to Lex Luthor, or more to the point a dumber Lex Luthor. On that comparison, I think I get his personal stake in climate change denial. Like Luthor did in the 1977 Superman, where he bought up all the land on the east side of the San Andreas Fault, we should check and see if Trump has bought up land along the sea-level increase line that would come from current projected global warming without the Paris protocols being followed.

“Goodbye Florida. Hello new East Coast. MY East Coast.
Costa del Don
Trumpville
Marina del Trump
Ivanka Peaks
Jaredburg…. Jaredburg??!!! JAREDBURG?!!”

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:56:31pm
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(Bert the Turtle)  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:56:46pm

re: #82 caseyjr

If you have room for them to run around, you can’t do better than a working-group dog. My top fave doges are from that group.

The dogs I’ve shared my life w/ since I was about 10 or so in chronological order:

Samoyed
Akita/Nor. Elkhound mix(pound dog)
Bernese Mountain dog(Adopted from neighbor who was moving)
Malamute(Texas rescue dog) - my personal favorite.

I’m a huge fan of the working group.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:56:47pm

re: #84 goddamnedfrank

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Some things to unpack here: 1st, apparently Reality Winner is a real person’s name. 2nd, the Administration’s war on leakers & the press is just beginning. I hope reporters are leveling up their tradecraft in response to the threat.

3. It’s the Intercept.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:56:57pm
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danarchy  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:57:33pm

re: #88 Jack Burton

I just had an epiphany. Among the scores of other names I’ve called Clownstick, I have indeed compared him to Lex Luthor, or more to the point a dumber Lex Luthor. On that comparison, I think I get his personal stake in climate change denial. Like Luthor did in the 1977 Superman, where he bought up all the land on the east side of the San Andreas Fault, we should check and see if Trump has bought up land along the sea-level increase line that would come from current projected global warming without the Paris protocols being followed.

“Goodbye Florida. Hello new East Coast. MY East Coast.
Costa del Don
Trumpville
Maria del Trump
Ivanka Peaks
Jaredburg…. Jaredburg??!!! JAREDBURG?!!”

Except that won’t happen in Trumps lifetime and if it isn’t going to affect him I doubt he would care.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:58:00pm

re: #84 goddamnedfrank

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Some things to unpack here: 1st, apparently Reality Winner is a real person’s name. 2nd, the Administration’s war on leakers & the press is just beginning. I hope reporters are leveling up their tradecraft in response to the threat.

Noteworthy is that the person arrested here was leaking to The Intercept. Looks like maybe the House of Greenwald got lazy and one of their sources got burned as a result.

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 2:58:52pm

re: #84 goddamnedfrank

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Some things to unpack here: 1st, apparently Reality Winner is a real person’s name. 2nd, the Administration’s war on leakers & the press is just beginning. I hope reporters are leveling up their tradecraft in response to the threat.

I don’t follow this guy, but it was retweeted in my TL.

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danarchy  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:01:26pm

re: #90 (Bert the Turtle)

The dogs I’ve shared my life w/ since I was about 10 or so in chronological order:

Samoyed
Akita/Nor. Elkhound mix(pound dog)
Bernese Mountain dog(Adopted from neighbor who was moving)
Malamute(Texas rescue dog) - my personal favorite.

I’m a huge fan of the working group.

The Norwegian Elkhound should totally be in the working dog group and not the hound group. Just because a mistranslation put the word hound in the name it is sort of a weird way to classify them.

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bratwurst  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:01:30pm

Whoa!

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:03:03pm

re: #54 covfefe

130 British imams refuse to bury the terrorists.

cnn.com

I am not surprised. It took awhile to find a place to bury Tamerlan Tsarnaev (Boston bomber) and they ended up burying him in an unmarked grave in Caroline County, Virginia.

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jaunte  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:04:46pm
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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:06:12pm

re: #97 bratwurst

Leaking to the Intercept is indeed a crime.

;)

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Dr. Matt  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:07:22pm
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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:09:26pm

re: #82 caseyjr

If you have room for them to run around, you can’t do better than a working-group dog. My top fave doges are from that group.

I take my dog to the beach almost every day. Got a decent sized yard. They are pure bred…just got that confirmed. Deciding on the tail.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:12:44pm

re: #39 bratwurst

Kekkyscam:

“This obsession with covering everything he says on Twitter and very little of what he does as president,” Conway complained..

That’s because he does very little as president

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:12:49pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:12:49pm
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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:12:57pm

AP isn’t pulling punches with Trump today.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:13:07pm

Evening Lizardim.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:15:34pm

In RTable format:

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:16:27pm

re: #102 darthstar

I take my dog to the beach almost every day. Got a decent sized yard. They are pure bred…just got that confirmed. Deciding on the tail.

I met a veterinarian once who would not dock tails nor do ears. I had respect.

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calochortus  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:16:32pm

re: #103 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Kekkyscam:

That’s because he does very little as president

What a good thing there’s nothing critical going on in the world.
/

In other news, there is a turkey vulture walking down my street.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:17:48pm

re: #102 darthstar

I take my dog to the beach almost every day. Got a decent sized yard. They are pure bred…just got that confirmed. Deciding on the tail.

Does it need a replacement tail?

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:18:06pm

re: #110 calochortus

What a good thing there’s nothing critical going on in the world.
/

In other news, there is a turkey vulture walking down my street.

Sounds like there could be a wing problem.

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BeachDem  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:18:26pm

re: #84 goddamnedfrank

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Some things to unpack here: 1st, apparently Reality Winner is a real person’s name. 2nd, the Administration’s war on leakers & the press is just beginning. I hope reporters are leveling up their tradecraft in response to the threat.

Winner is a contractor with Pluribus International Corporation assigned to a U.S. government agency facility in Georgia. She has been employed at the facility since on or about February 13, and has held a Top Secret clearance during that time. On or about May 9, Winner printed and improperly removed classified intelligence reporting

justice.gov

Sure didn’t take her long to get Glennie what he wanted, did it?

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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:18:44pm

re: #99 jaunte

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On the one hand, this is the sort of story that makes me worry about the future of journalism.

On the other, she went to The Intercept and expected not to get burned. Stevie Wonder could have seen how stupid that was.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:19:03pm
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allegro  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:20:34pm

re: #113 BeachDem

Winner is a contractor with Pluribus International Corporation assigned to a U.S. government agency facility in Georgia. She has been employed at the facility since on or about February 13, and has held a Top Secret clearance during that time. On or about May 9, Winner printed and improperly removed classified intelligence reporting

justice.gov

Sure didn’t take her long to get Glennie what he wanted, did it?

Wow. That’s kinda deja vu all over again, ain’t it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:20:43pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

I met a veterinarian once who would not dock tails nor do ears. I had respect.

Got my last dog as a stray with her tail already docked. Pit Bulls are notoriously aggressive with other dogs but I’m convinced half the goddamned problem is the tail docking makes it much harder for them to signal friendly intentions.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:20:46pm

re: #96 danarchy

Yep. She was a cool dog super smart and almost cat-like. But dang did she have issues w/ other dogs. It was brutal as she grew older. I had her for close to 10 years.

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calochortus  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:21:31pm

re: #112 wrenchwench

Sounds like there could be a wing problem.

I don’t think so. It flew in and landed, and it just flew up to the telephone pole without trouble when a car drove by. I’m gonna say it’s just bored and hanging around. I don’t think there’s anything dead there or anything.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:23:09pm

re: #119 calochortus

I don’t think so. It flew in and landed, and it just flew up to the telephone pole without trouble when a car drove by. I’m gonna say it’s just bored and hanging around. I don’t think there’s anything dead there or anything.

Perfect to caption with: “And not a single fuck was given that day.”

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A Cranky One  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:23:45pm

re: #111 Belafon

Does it need a replacement tail?

Just take it down to the local retail shop.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:24:20pm
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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:24:29pm

re: #115 darthstar

And this is what it was, apparently.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:24:58pm

THIS THREAD==>

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:26:15pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

Got my last dog as a stray with her tail already docked. Pit Bulls are notoriously aggressive with other dogs but I’m convinced half the goddamned problem is the tail docking makes it much harder for them to signal friendly intentions.

Bet you are right. What a horrible thing to do to an animal anyway. WTF

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:26:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:26:59pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:28:15pm

Reality Winner is such a loser. Sad!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:30:03pm
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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:30:08pm

re: #128 The Vicious Babushka

Reality Winner is such a loser. Sad!

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A credible agency would have told her not to email from work.

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calochortus  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:30:47pm

The vulture has flown on. Right after the school bus went by. Should local parents be worried?

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:32:21pm

re: #131 calochortus

The vulture has flown on. Right after the school bus went by. Should local parents be worried?

Vultures are scavengers, not hunters.

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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:32:58pm

This is an interesting way to go into this week of expected bombshells, the NSA basically knew that Russia was trying to hack voting systems days prior to the election. This news comes after months of insistence by the GOP that there was no evidence that Russia was running more than a psy-op program, that it had made no effort to actually alter the final vote tallies.

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makeitstop  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:33:18pm

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How in the world does a 25 year old with 6 months on the job get top secret security clearance?

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:33:26pm

re: #132 Belafon

So parents should be a different kind of worried?

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:34:17pm

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

Let the Winner jokes commence.

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covfefe  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:34:27pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

Trump couldn’t handle the last trip overseas. This is his way of getting out of another one.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:35:45pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:36:21pm

It’s like he’s asking SCOTUS to assume everything the lower courts have said about his duplicitous arguments and bigoted intentions is 100% correct and to rule in his favor anyway.

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calochortus  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:36:44pm

re: #135 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

So parents should be a different kind of worried?

That would be my take on it.

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dangerman  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:37:24pm

re: #103 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Kekkyscam:

“This obsession with covering everything he says on Twitter and very little of what he does as president,” Conway complained..

That’s because he does very little as president

isn’t he still the president when he tweets?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:37:56pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:38:00pm
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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:38:20pm

re: #134 makeitstop

How in the world does a 25 year old with 6 months on the job get top secret security clearance?

Because they grant it to anyone who needs it. Security clearances, after the background checks are done, are based on need to get a job done. So, in order to do her job, it was determined that she needed to get a Top Secret clearance. She would have needed a more thorough background check, but age has nothing to do with it, not if we’re going to send 18 year olds into battle.

Here’s a question for everyone: You’ve been told you need to protect the United States, and you find information that the Russians tried to hack voting machines. Is it more patriotic to keep that information quiet, or to make it public?

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:38:21pm

re: #140 calochortus

I watched a turkey buzzard get hounded by a pack of smaller birds the other day.

Couldn’t figure out why, but they do that same aerial dog-fight behavior when driving off raptors.

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calochortus  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:38:58pm

re: #132 Belafon

Vultures are scavengers, not hunters.

Wasn’t there a Far Side cartoon that had vultures wondering why they had to wait for things to die since they had such big talons?

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:39:11pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Why would anyone want to be associated with GG?

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covfefe  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:39:25pm

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

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SteelPH  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:39:34pm

re: #147 freetoken

Why would anyone want to be associated with GG?

Too dumb to live?

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:39:34pm

“Looking forward to your visit later this year to London, where you are genuinely unwelcome. An interesting and colourful reception awaits.”

Maybe the Trump request for the golden carriage to meet the Queen could be changed to a golf cart. Say you heard he likes riding it so much that he sacrificed a walk with world leaders to ride it.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:40:03pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

I’m hoping this kills the Intercept.

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jaunte  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:40:45pm

re: #143 goddamnedfrank

I can’t believe she emailed the Intercept from her work computer.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:41:32pm

The flip side is, I’m hoping she’s treated more like the guy who released the Pentagon Papers, though he was the first, and nobody knows what to do the first time. She didn’t release it to a foreign government, just an idiotic newspaper.

Edit: Yes, I’m using newspaper in a loose, generic sense.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:41:37pm

re: #152 jaunte

I can’t believe she emailed the Intercept from her work computer.

Maybe she made a decision to leak and take the consequences…(I kind of hope.)

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:42:13pm

re: #125 Unshaken Defiance

Bet you are right. What a horrible thing to do to an animal anyway. WTF

And yet… us and our cats! (They were born that way.) But didn’t I see Manksy tweet something about letting your cats out this morning?

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:42:15pm

re: #148 covfefe

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Nah, she conducted correspondence with the Intercept from her work computer, left a paper trail a mile wide and straight up admitted was she did to the agents who served her the search warrant. She was either a gigantic idiot or she wanted to get caught, or both.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:42:20pm
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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:42:24pm

Time to report another neo-Nazi into oblivion.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:42:49pm

re: #143 goddamnedfrank

You know you’ve seen enough anime when those names sound kind of normal.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:43:11pm

re: #152 jaunte

I can’t believe she emailed the Intercept from her work computer.

So what you’re saying is I shouldn’t be masturbating in Starbucks right now?

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:43:14pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

This is new?

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:43:26pm

re: #152 jaunte

I can’t believe she emailed the Intercept from her work computer.

I wish she’d picked a reputable organization, like the Washington Post. They would have at least told her what to do.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:43:30pm

re: #134 makeitstop

How in the world does a 25 year old with 6 months on the job get top secret security clearance?

Top security clearance isn’t much more than a thorough background check.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:44:07pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:44:31pm

re: #154 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Maybe she made a decision to leak and take the consequences…(I kind of hope.)

That would actually be hugely refreshing, a gigantic middle finger to Snowden.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:45:06pm

This is really cool. Check out the USS Gabrielle Giffords. about to take her maiden voyage. May she be as tough and her crew as resolute as her namesake.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:45:44pm

re: #166 Unshaken Defiance

This is really cool. Check out the USS Gabrielle Giffords. about to take her maiden voyage. May she be as tough and her crew as resolute as her namesake.

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“Why did they put a basketball court on the back of a boat?”

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No Depression  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:46:11pm

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

Nah, she conducted correspondence with the Intercept from her work computer, left a paper trail a mile wide and straight up admitted was she did to the agents who served her the search warrant. She was either a gigantic idiot or she wanted to get caught, or both.

You would think that someone working for a fucking INTELLIGENCE agency would assume that her work email would be monitored.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:48:09pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:49:07pm

re: #159 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

You know you’ve seen enough anime when those names sound kind of normal.

You know you’ve seen way too much anime when you recognize that sword CCJ was beclowning himself with, and can just about name it.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:49:47pm

re: #165 goddamnedfrank

That would actually be hugely refreshing, a gigantic middle finger to Snowden.

On the other hand, The Intercept’s main guy has talent for using leakers for self-promotion and cyncial selling of his brand….

re: #169 darthstar

Setting aside all the answers owning his shit logic, I am skeptical of his initial claim.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:50:17pm

re: #168 No Depression

She deserves everything coming her way, LOL.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:50:25pm

Damn. Things just got more interesting then they already were.

I don’t know why, but for some reason I have a feeling this Russian document which ties to the Russian military (if I read that right) will make things real hard on Flynn and Sessions. Just a gut feeling.

This comes out today. There is talk of Mike Rogers bombing Trump on Wednesday and Comey goes before Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday.

Sure is going to be real interesting to see what the Friday media dump is going to be this week.

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:50:37pm
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jaunte  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:50:39pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:50:41pm

re: #165 goddamnedfrank

That would actually be hugely refreshing, a gigantic middle finger to Snowden.

Exactly, and a good defense lawyer with this strategy could probably make it difficult/impossible to get a jury to convict Winner for anything.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:50:58pm

Wow.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:51:35pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:51:44pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:51:48pm

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

Wow.

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No dummy.

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jaunte  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:52:22pm
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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:52:31pm

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

Smart ones are as easy to trip up as the rest.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:53:13pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:53:54pm

re: #102 darthstar

I take my dog to the beach almost every day. Got a decent sized yard. They are pure bred…just got that confirmed. Deciding on the tail.

It goes on the far end.

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:53:57pm

Information is flowing too quickly for many to keep up.

Misinformation also….

On Facebook I see people posting things that are years (and years) old as if the thing is new. Because the posters are way, way behind.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:54:16pm

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

Wow.

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Do you wonder if she thought this was the right thing to do, and didn’t run from it?

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:56:07pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:56:54pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

I met a veterinarian once who would not dock tails nor do ears. I had respect.

Friend who was a vet in England says it is mostly illegal there. Then again, their cops don’t carry many guns.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:56:58pm

re: #155 wrenchwench

And yet… us and our cats! (They were born that way.) But didn’t I see Manksy tweet something about letting your cats out this morning?

Well she thinks we should all find a way to give them some sun and grass time. A safe way of course….

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Targetpractice  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:57:10pm

Try this on for size: The Intercept burned their own source to shift the story from the contents of the leak to the fate of the leaker.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:57:38pm

re: #162 Belafon

I wish she’d picked a reputable organization, like the Washington Post. They would have at least told her what to do.

I wonder if there is another reason she went to the Intercept. Like, did they put her up to this from the get-go? Part two: what did the Intercept intend to do with the document?

Like others, I don’t trust Greenwald. Is there something going on where someone on the Trump team needed to know if there was a document like this? Did someone on the Trump team need to know if the NSA was on the tail more than Trump would have expected and needed to know of the document to know how much was known. Then with the knowledge, the Trump team could start to figure out how to deal with it all.

I guess I am asking did Greenwald’s people do this to find out for the Trump team?

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:58:34pm

re: #180 wrenchwench

No dummy.

Exactly. What previously looked like amateurish mistakes now look like deliberate acts intended to demonstrate she was acting openly in the capacity of a whistleblower who always intended to answer for her actions. We’ve become used to treating Snowden and his sneaky ass treacherous bullshit as the model for this kind of thing that we forgot there is another, far more courageous way.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:58:41pm

Well, it looks like we’re keeping it long (the tail) on our new pup. Already committed to taking one of the males. The one with the spot got taken by my friend’s wife…but their her pups so I can’t hold that against her.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:58:57pm

re: #191 ObserverArt

I wonder if there is another reason she went to the Intercept. Like, did they put her up to this from the get-go? Part two: what did the Intercept intend to do with the document?

Like others, I don’t trust Greenwald. Is there something going on where someone on the Trump team needed to know if there was a document like this? Did someone on the Trump team need to know if the NSA was on the tail more than Trump would have expected and needed to know of the document to know how much was known. Then with the knowledge, the Trump team could start to figure out how to deal with it all.

I guess I am asking did Greenwald’s people do this to find out for the Trump team?

Good question. It sounds like the NSA was going to have this released on Wednesday, but this could have given them a heads up.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:58:58pm

re: #188 Decatur Deb

Friend who was a vet in England says it is mostly illegal there. Then again, their cops don’t carry many guns.

Should be illegal in general. Fuck up ear docking and the dog ends up in constant pain. Fuck up a tail docking—which is generally done on pups—and they die.

To say nothing of the permanent stunting of the animal’s communication skills and hearing.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2017 • 3:59:48pm

re: #186 Belafon

Do you wonder if she thought this was the right thing to do, and didn’t run from it?

That’s exactly what I think now. 0% chance this is some idiot who got in over her head. She knew exactly what the fuck she was doing and intended to own the consequences all along.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:01:07pm

And I know how hard in general this is, but is this information that really needed to remain classified?

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makeitstop  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:01:10pm

re: #190 Targetpractice

Try this on for size: The Intercept burned their own source to shift the story from the contents of the leak to the fate of the leaker.

Also an attempt to side-step legal liability (whether it works is another question).

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calochortus  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:01:13pm

BBL

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:01:36pm

re: #195 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Should be illegal in general. Fuck up ear docking and the dog ends up in constant pain. Fuck up a tail docking—which is generally done on pups—and they die.

To say nothing of the permanent stunting of the animal’s communication skills and hearing.

My brother had a cattle dog when we were younger…she had pups. He docked their tails with rubber bands. Collected them all and made them into keychains. I had one for a few years. Hung out of my pocket and I’d be at parties and some gal would be talking to me and invariably pick it up and start stroking it…she’d ask, “What is this?” and I’d say, “Puppy dog tail. You know we’re made of them. (and snakes and snails)”

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KerFuFFler  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:01:37pm

re: #144 Belafon

Here’s a question for everyone: You’ve been told you need to protect the United States, and you find information that the Russians tried to hack voting machines. Is it more patriotic to keep that information quiet, or to make it public?

Sure, I think it is a good thing for such information to come out———but why send it to the intercept??? They have a decidedly pro-Russia bias. No wonder the Intercept hung her out to dry. No big surprise that the DOJ is coming down on her like a ton of bricks.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:02:10pm

re: #198 makeitstop

Also an attempt to side-step legal liability (whether it works is another question).

I think the SCOTUS has already ruled news orgs don’t have any legal liability.

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:02:18pm

re: #192 goddamnedfrank

Exactly. What previously looked like amateurish mistakes now look like deliberate acts intended to demonstrate she was acting openly in the capacity of a whistleblower who always intended to answer for her actions. We’ve become used to treating Snowden and his sneaky ass treacherous bullshit as the model for this kind of thing that we forgot there is another, far more courageous way.

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SpikeDad  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:03:08pm

I don’t get the MSM and or the Democrats? They both should be hammering Trump over his statement that Democrats are obstructionists. We have 8 years of REAL LIFE where the Republicans blocked every judge and appointment they could. It REALLY HAPPENED.

It should be the first question every WH reporter asks and the first thing every Democrat says to every reports. And BERNIE should be shouting it the LOUDEST since it seems some “liberals” only listen to him.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:03:17pm

re: #146 calochortus

Wasn’t there a Far Side cartoon that had vultures wondering why they had to wait for things to die since they had such big talons?

“Wait my ass, I’m gonna kill something.”

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piratedan  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:03:42pm

re: #187 darthstar

that post sure looks like someone who just woke the fuck up as to what was going on in 2016.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:04:31pm

re: #176 EPR-radar

Exactly, and a good defense lawyer with this strategy could probably make it difficult/impossible to get a jury to convict Winner for anything.

Unfortunately for her, she’s being charged in the Southern District of Georgia which means she’s probably screwed.

If she had been charged in northern Virginia or Maryland, there was a chance she might luck into some jury nullification.

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allegro  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:04:44pm

re: #201 KerFuFFler

Sure, I think it is a good thing for such information to come out———but why send it to the intercept??? They have a decidedly pro-Russia bias. No wonder the Intercept hung her out to dry. No big surprise that the DOJ is coming down on her like a ton of bricks.

Maybe she approached the NYT/WaPo first and they didn’t want any part of it due to the illegality?

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SpikeDad  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:05:36pm

re: #200 darthstar

My brother had a cattle dog when we were younger…she had pups. He docked their tails with rubber bands. Collected them all and made them into keychains. I had one for a few years. Hung out of my pocket and I’d be at parties and some gal would be talking to me and invariably pick it up and start stroking it…she’d ask, “What is this?” and I’d say, “Puppy dog tail. You know we’re made of them. (and snakes and snails)”

That’s sick. I hope the “gal” kicked you in your testicles.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:05:50pm

re: #200 darthstar

My brother had a cattle dog when we were younger…she had pups. He docked their tails with rubber bands. Collected them all and made them into keychains. I had one for a few years. Hung out of my pocket and I’d be at parties and some gal would be talking to me and invariably pick it up and start stroking it…she’d ask, “What is this?” and I’d say, “Puppy dog tail. You know we’re made of them. (and snakes and snails)”

That is really creepy Darth.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:05:54pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:06:12pm

re: #208 allegro

Maybe she approached the NYT/WaPo first and they didn’t want any part of it due to the illegality?

Nah… they got scooped.

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Scout  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:06:26pm

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

LOL. She was talking about “tri-folded” and “folded” and I couldn’t figure out what she meant — I thought this was some kind of high-tech jargon for super security 007 computer security stuff.

Then it dawned on me that maybe she was just talking about good old-fashioned paper?

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Jack Burton  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:07:08pm

re: #185 freetoken

On Facebook I see people posting things that are years (and years) old as if the thing is new. Because the posters are way, way behind.

Every damn day. A hoax reposted from 4 years ago as if it’s new… or better yet, the ones that keep coming back every year around the same time. (Someone changes the year, or it only has a Month/Day date on it). I wonder, do they really not pay attention or am I only one that remembers shit from past a few weeks ago?

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meteor  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:07:13pm

Reality Winner?

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:07:46pm

re: #214 Jack Burton

It’s the Gish Gallop made digital.

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:08:14pm

re: #215 meteor

Reality Winner?

Sounds like she should be in the Kentucky Derby.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:08:47pm

Lord! I had to change the channel after watching a few minutes of the so-called interview of Russian dictator Putin by Megyn Kelly. It seems like the only person that loves Putin more than Megyn Kelly, is Putin.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:08:56pm

re: #210 ObserverArt

That is really creepy Darth.

We were rednecks. We did redneck shit. Didn’t think anything of it at the time.

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darthstar  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:10:01pm

Trump didn’t want an ambassador to China anyway…Putin doesn’t like the Chinese.

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sagehen  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:10:04pm

re: #208 allegro

Maybe she approached the NYT/WaPo first and they didn’t want any part of it due to the illegality?

Maybe NYT/WaPo takes their time authenticating stuff before they print it, and she was in a hurry.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:10:50pm

re: #196 goddamnedfrank

If this turns out to be true, I’ll take back my assessment above.

But it’s a big if. This make zero sense to me. She could have simply identified herself then.

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Jack Burton  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:10:53pm

re: #216 freetoken

It’s the Gish Gallop made digital.

I swear if I see that damn “Pray for the Marine Darkhorse Squad” Facebook posting one more time I’m going to have an aneurysm.

(which is now almost 8 years old, and every year or 2 pops back up on Facebook as if it’s a thing happening right then)

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:11:56pm

The stupid, it burns.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:12:32pm
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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:12:57pm

re: #222 Nyet

If this turns out to be true, I’ll take back my assessment above.

But it’s a big if. This make zero sense to me. She could have simply identified herself then.

Had she not been caught, it would have just been an anonymous leak. Also, she could have released more.

It just doesn’t seem like she’s trying to run from her decision to release it.

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Jack Burton  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:13:04pm

re: #225 The Vicious Babushka

His podcast is going to be a HOOT tomorrow.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:14:18pm

Chris Matthews is “interviewing” Carter Page. What a strange bird. He’s all over the place and smiling like he’s bullshitting everything that flows out of his yap. He is good at not answering shit.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:14:29pm

I’m going to wait and see how this plays out.

The Intercept and GG are on one hand shifty, on the other kind of dolts. Look at how they bought Snowden’s “genius security guy” who was actually just a tech who stole passwords, or Assange’s whole over-sculpted horseshit.

I can see this being a deliberate reveal, but on the other hand that team are a mess in that way that incompetent cocky people are.

There’s also the “cynical hype-monger” aspect of the Intercept to consider. Each time GG and his masthead have acquired something like this, they’ve used it to market their brand.

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stpaulbear  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:14:40pm

re: #200 darthstar

My brother had a cattle dog when we were younger…she had pups. He docked their tails with rubber bands. Collected them all and made them into keychains. I had one for a few years. Hung out of my pocket and I’d be at parties and some gal would be talking to me and invariably pick it up and start stroking it…she’d ask, “What is this?” and I’d say, “Puppy dog tail. You know we’re made of them. (and snakes and snails)”

Bela Lugosi - Beware of the dragon!

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:16:00pm
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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:16:50pm
233
covfefe  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:17:12pm

Maybe she leaked to the Intercept to ruin them…

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gocart mozart  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:19:56pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:21:03pm

re: #222 Nyet

If this turns out to be true, I’ll take back my assessment above.
.

This one?

Just tryna keep up.

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Jack Burton  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:21:26pm

re: #233 covfefe

Maybe she leaked to the Intercept to ruin them…

There are ways to do that which don’t involve going to Federal Prison.

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caseyjr  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:21:32pm

re: #200 darthstar

My brother had a cattle dog when we were younger…she had pups. He docked their tails with rubber bands. Collected them all and made them into keychains. I had one for a few years. Hung out of my pocket and I’d be at parties and some gal would be talking to me and invariably pick it up and start stroking it…she’d ask, “What is this?” and I’d say, “Puppy dog tail. You know we’re made of them. (and snakes and snails)”

This echoes what my mom the kennel owner told me they did in the 50’s when she was in the business. She raised Collies and Dachsies, so no tail-bobbing on her part.

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weave  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:21:58pm

re: #169 darthstar

Ah what an idiot… weapons are not allowed at NASCAR events. I just spent some time looking at the various tracks. They all ban weapons

Example (emphasis added): bristolmotorspeedway.com

Weapons of any description including guns, knives, ice picks, etc., regardless of permit.

daytonainternationalspeedway.com

texasmotorspeedway.com

charlottemotorspeedway.com

doverspeedway.com

So …. maybe, just maybe, there’s never been a terrorist attack at a NASCAR race because of their strong anti-gun policy.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:22:16pm

re: #192 goddamnedfrank

Exactly. What previously looked like amateurish mistakes now look like deliberate acts intended to demonstrate she was acting openly in the capacity of a whistleblower who always intended to answer for her actions. We’ve become used to treating Snowden and his sneaky ass treacherous bullshit as the model for this kind of thing that we forgot there is another, far more courageous way.

I agree, this scenario looks quite possible. It still seems really dumb to go to The Intercept with this instead of the Washington Post, but I think that’s an indicator of Greenwald’s unearned and unwarranted good reputation with millennials. He’s been portrayed as a hero to them, and nobody deserves it less.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:23:16pm

re: #235 wrenchwench

Yep. Willful stupidity like this should have consequences.

If it’s not stupidity, then the judgment doesn’t apply (although some other might). But, as before, a big ‘if’.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:23:52pm

If it turns out that Russia did actually manage to skew the fucking VOTING RESULTS, all hell is going to break loose, and it should.

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caseyjr  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:25:11pm

re: #215 meteor

Reality Winner?

Pay no attention, the matrix just glitched again, like on Nov. 8.

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b.d.  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:25:12pm

re: #201 KerFuFFler

Sure, I think it is a good thing for such information to come out———but why send it to the intercept??? They have a decidedly pro-Russia bias. No wonder the Intercept hung her out to dry. No big surprise that the DOJ is coming down on her like a ton of bricks.

Yep. I am SHOCKED that a source for The Intercept proving that the Russians are guilty somehow got burned.

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:25:57pm

re: #239 Charles Johnson

I suppose it is possible that this is legitimate whistleblowing.

But the choice of the Intercept tells me that she’s not really that clued into journalism in America.

It is also possible that the Intercept was not the only recipient of this material, but that other outlets have sat on it for some reason.

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steve_davis  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:27:13pm

re: #53 darthstar

In other news…I’m looking at getting one of these little things…Friend’s cattle dog just had pups and Banjo needs a little brother/sister…I can’t stop looking at this fuckin’ pic.

[Embedded content]

that is the look of a mother who has counted her litter three times and still isn’t sure she didn’t leave one of them in the cart after a grocery run.

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EPR-radar  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:27:27pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

If it turns out that Russia did actually manage to skew the fucking VOTING RESULTS, all hell is going to break loose, and it should.

This whole time RWNJs have been using the (false) talking point that Russiagate is a nothing burger if it was just propaganda and would only be real if there was tampering with the voting results.

I’d really like to see the entire US right choke on this, big league.

247
teleskiguy  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:27:27pm

Charles, the video downstairs was pulled from YouTube. The official video from HBO is now live.

Paris Agreement: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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caseyjr  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:27:33pm

re: #224 Ace-o-aces

The stupid, it burns.

[Embedded content]

FFS the report itself dates from May 5 2017, right.

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:27:34pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

If it turns out that Russia did actually manage to skew the fucking VOTING RESULTS, all hell is going to break loose, and it should.

I doubt that voting machines are that susceptible. And in some states like here in California there are still material ballots of some sort.

Yet the evidence of an actual attempt ought itself to ring the bells that are still silent among the Republicans who control Congress.

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KGxvi  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:27:53pm

re: #238 weave

Ah what an idiot… weapons are not allowed at NASCAR events. I just spent some time looking at the various tracks. They all ban weapons

Example (emphasis added): bristolmotorspeedway.com

daytonainternationalspeedway.com

texasmotorspeedway.com

charlottemotorspeedway.com

doverspeedway.com

So …. maybe, just maybe, there’s never been a terrorist attack at a NASCAR race because of their strong anti-gun policy.

It could also be because there are actually very few people who are inclined to commit these kinds of attacks. These random attacks really aren’t much different from the random shootings we see way too often. And as much as most conservatives don’t want to admit it, the way to deal with them is through police investigation of potential crimes, and domestic and foreign policy that address the root causes of terrorism (but that’s big complicated stuff that can’t be solved with bombing the shit out of people).

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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:29:10pm

re: #240 Nyet

Yep. Willful stupidity like this should have consequences.

If it’s not stupidity, then the judgment doesn’t apply (although some other might). But, as before, a big ‘if’.

Way too soon to figure out her motives and methods. It’s not too soon to hope her supervisor and contractor security shop are put to work mending paper clips.

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EPR-radar  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:29:40pm

re: #249 freetoken

I doubt that voting machines are that susceptible. And in some states like here in California there are still material ballots of some sort.

Yet the evidence of an actual attempt ought itself to ring the bells that are still silent among the Republicans who control Congress.

The only thing that will get the attention of congressional Republicans is if they start losing elections, especially in gerrymandered House districts.

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:30:10pm

re: #251 Decatur Deb

Way too soon to figure out her motives and methods. It’s not too soon to hope her supervisor and contractor security shop are put to work mending paper clips.

There may have been no obvious reason to suspect she would have sent the material.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:30:21pm

re: #247 teleskiguy

Thanks, I’ll fix.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:31:18pm

re: #253 freetoken

There may have been no obvious reason to suspect she would have sent the material.

She had access to it. That’s reason enough.

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EPR-radar  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:32:33pm

re: #251 Decatur Deb

Way too soon to figure out her motives and methods. It’s not too soon to hope her supervisor and contractor security shop are put to work mending paper clips.

I’d need to see some damning details before going all-in on the supervisor and contractor being sloppy. If someone wants to smuggle a few pieces of paper out of a secure facility, no policy except strip searches at the exits will catch it, and those strip searches aren’t really an option.

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freetoken  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:35:13pm

re: #255 Decatur Deb

She had access to it. That’s reason enough.

There is no prescience in security clearances.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:39:11pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

If it turns out that Russia did actually manage to skew the fucking VOTING RESULTS, all hell is going to break loose, and it should.

Whoa what did I miss? Sorry I was doing campaign work for a local candidate.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:40:23pm

re: #257 freetoken

There is no prescience in security clearances.

A security clearance is only the first step in the process. If I wanted to access certain shit I had to go to a safe and be observed pulling a hard drive to be used on the SO’s desktop. And that was only low-level tactical stuff.

Soon I’ll start babbling about email servers.

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No Depression  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:40:58pm

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Whoa what did I miss? Sorry I was doing campaign work for a local candidate.

Someone leaked a NSA report on Russia hacking attempts on voting machines to the Intercept and got busted.

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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:41:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:41:47pm

Getting really sick and tired of Trump and his cronies twisting the words of the Mayor of London. You should be trying to help him right now not attack him, you fuckers.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:42:01pm

re: #260 No Depression

Someone leaked a NSA report on Russia hacking attempts on voting machines to the Intercept and got busted.

Very interesting.

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No Depression  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:42:52pm

re: #263 HappyWarrior

Very interesting.

I didn’t even tell you one of the more interesting details: the leaker’s name is Reality Winner. No joke.

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Skip Intro  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:43:48pm

Congressman: Russian operatives hacked Illinois elections board

Democratic U.S. Rep. Mike Quigley said Monday that Russian operatives hacked into the State Board of Elections last year to view voter database files, a potential move toward trying to make voters distrust the state and federal election system.

Quigley, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, also warned of a potential “constitutional crisis” over executive privilege between President Donald Trump and the U.S. Supreme Court as part of multiple investigations into possible collusion between agents of the Russian government and Trump’s presidential campaign.

Quigley’s declaration of Russian involvement in the hacking of the state elections board marked the first time the country had been definitively identified as behind the attack last year, though it had been widely suspected.

chicagotribune.com

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:44:03pm

re: #264 No Depression

I didn’t even tell you one of the more interesting details: the leaker’s name is Reality Winner. No joke.

Best name I’ve heard since
en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:44:47pm

You know, it really does make you wonder. I mean I know sometimes the polls can be off. I don’t know guys. We’re getting into some crazy and uncharted waters here.

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:44:48pm

re: #259 Decatur Deb

A security clearance is only the first step in the process. If I wanted to access certain shit I had to go to a safe and be observed pulling a hard drive to be used on the SO’s desktop. And that was only low-level tactical stuff.

Soon I’ll start babbling about email servers.

Do your classified printers print headers?

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:45:59pm

re: #249 freetoken

I doubt that voting machines are that susceptible. And in some states like here in California there are still material ballots of some sort.

Yet the evidence of an actual attempt ought itself to ring the bells that are still silent among the Republicans who control Congress.

Because the busloads of Massachusetts people who voted for Trump in NH is more plausible. ///

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No Depression  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:46:16pm

re: #266 HappyWarrior

Best name I’ve heard since
en.wikipedia.org

Ha, I thought you were gonna talk about this dude: Beezow Doo-Doo Zopittybop-Bop-Bop Arrested For Allegedly Assaulting Police

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Jay C  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:46:54pm

re: #261 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

I wonder what the odds will be that the House (at least) will vote to repeal the “Seven Member Rule” law as soon as it looks like the Dems on the Oversight Committee can end-run around their Chair’s obstructionism? Or how quickly? (Faster than the AHCA or the Budget, I’m sure!)

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Jack Burton  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:47:07pm

Hey GG…

I’ll quote Hellraiser and then…

“Welcome to the worst nightmare of all: Reality Winner”

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:47:23pm

re: #262 HappyWarrior

They have absolutely no interest in London except as a rhetorical bludgeon for the things they want, or more generally to as a way to feel that they’re superior to anybody.

Hence comments that amount to: (1) you’re stupid, Londoners and London’s mayor, because you didn’t behave how we would, (2) sure people died but the important thing is my stuff.

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ObserverArt  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:47:34pm

re: #262 HappyWarrior

Getting really sick and tired of Trump and his cronies twisting the words of the Mayor of London. You should be trying to help him right now not attack him, you fuckers.

He’s probably trying to show the Muslim Mayor is soft on radical Islam in London and that is why this happened. That is what Trump does. He doesn’t care about anything but his own goals so under the bus goes the Mayor.

Help him? Ha. Use him is more like it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:50:47pm
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Jay C  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:51:25pm

re: #271 Jay C

Also, too: this statute can’t have been very hard to dig up: but that letter from the White House Counsel seems to not to have acknowledged it.
Were they trying to put one past Congress? Or are they just stupid?

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:52:20pm

re: #275 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

LOL!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:54:15pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:54:30pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:54:36pm

re: #268 Belafon

Do your classified printers print headers?

We weren’t allowed to print classified above FOUO. If we had, it would have had to go in the freaking safe every night. At the end, we didn’t even have hard drives and removeable media, and none of this was approaching NSA shit. That’s why I said the same thing about PVT Manning’s chain of command.

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teleskiguy  Jun 5, 2017 • 4:56:06pm

re: #173 ObserverArt

Sure is going to be real interesting to see what the Friday media dump is going to be this week.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:01:39pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:01:41pm

re: #226 Belafon

Had she not been caught, it would have just been an anonymous leak. Also, she could have released more.

It just doesn’t seem like she’s trying to run from her decision to release it.

It would look better for her if she’d come out with the entire story during pre-emptively during a press conference. On the other hand that would’ve opened her up to charges that she was making a publicity play.

All I’m saying is that I regret my initial dismissive attitude at the beginning of this thread. I heard the name Reality Winner, saw how easy it was to catch her and figured it was just some millennial idiot who played with fire and got burned. That kneejerk assessment was overly cynical. However this ends up there seems to be much more nuance at play than I assumed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:05:12pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

He signed a piece of meaningless paper that doesn’t accomplish a thing.

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No Depression  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:06:19pm

Scary paragraph from the Intercept story:

“If someone has access to a state voter database, they can take malicious action by modifying or removing information,” she said. “This could affect whether someone has the ability to cast a regular ballot, or be required to cast a ‘provisional’ ballot — which would mean it has to be checked for their eligibility before it is included in the vote, and it may mean the voter has to jump through certain hoops such as proving their information to the election official before their eligibility is affirmed.”

It’s very possible that Russia could have aided Republican voter suppression efforts in key states.

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majii  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:06:30pm

re: #207 Timothy Watson

“Unfortunately for her, she’s being charged in the Southern District of Georgia which means she’s probably screwed.”

I agree. I’ve lived in GA my whole life and today, GA is “Trump Nation.” If the jury that hears this case is comprised of Trump supporters, it’s highly likely that she will be convicted, and it wouldn’t surprise me if many jurors would have reached that decision before the trial begins.

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sagehen  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:07:46pm

New documentary on HBO: “If you’re not in the obit, eat breakfast.”

Mel Brooks, Carl Reiner, Tony Bennett, Kirk Douglas, Fyvush Finkel, Betty White, Norman Lear, Stan Lee, Dick Van Dyke…

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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:09:11pm

re: #286 majii

“Unfortunately for her, she’s being charged in the Southern District of Georgia which means she’s probably screwed.”

I agree. I’ve lived in GA my whole life and today, GA is “Trump Nation.” If the jury that hears this case is comprised of Trump supporters, it’s highly likely that she will be convicted, and it wouldn’t surprise me if many jurors would have reached that decision before the trial begins.

I hope no court anywhere is going to rule that a newly-hired grunt has the right to decide what classified material should be broadcast.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:09:18pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

Privatization worked great for the Bureau of Indian Affairs/

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gocart mozart  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:09:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:09:35pm

re: #287 sagehen

New documentary on HBO: “If you’re not in the obit, eat breakfast.”

Mel Brooks, Carl Reiner, Tony Bennett, Kirk Douglas, Fyvush Finkel, Betty White, Norman Lear, Stan Lee, Dick Van Dyke…

That’s quite a crowd of nonagenarians

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:10:01pm

re: #290 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

OFFS. Grow up Jackoff.

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majii  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:10:24pm

re: #228 ObserverArt

“Chris Matthews is “interviewing” Carter Page. What a strange bird. He’s all over the place and smiling like he’s bullshitting everything that flows out of his yap. He is good at not answering shit.”

Well, OA, we do need to remember that the Russian agents who were trying to get him to turn some documents over to them that they wanted did call him stupid. His former co-workers describe him as not being particularly bright.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:12:02pm

re: #290 gocart mozart

The Satanic Panic marches on, head firmly packed within its own ass.

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Lidane  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:12:04pm

This tweet gave me a bunch of unexpected feels:

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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:13:26pm

re: #294 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

The Satanic Panic marches on, head firmly packed within its own ass.

It’s almost like JAck wants to be a parody of a right wing dipshit.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:15:27pm

re: #296 HappyWarrior

It’s almost like JAck wants to be a parody of a right wing dipshit.

Read about Mike Warnke some time. “Luciferian tattoos” is comparatively mild.

EDIT: I am missing that the dude’s a Poe? With a tweet like that I didn’t go onto his timeline.

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No Depression  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:15:44pm

re: #290 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Wait, she’s a juggalo? That’s almost WORSE than being a Luciferian agent! /

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:16:21pm

re: #288 Decatur Deb

I hope no court anywhere is going to rule that a newly-hired grunt has the right to decide what classified material should be broadcast.

You’re right. Neither Ellsberg nor the Navy sailors in 1778 should have been allowed to decide if they could leak it. But, since the information is important, I hope the jurors take that into account.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:17:37pm

re: #298 No Depression

They were able to test for Faygo residue at the crime scene, I guess.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:18:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:18:19pm

re: #297 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Read about Mike Warnke some time. “Luciferian tattoos” is comparatively mild.

I have a feelng these people would reak out if they ever saw my arms.

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sagehen  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:18:26pm

re: #299 Belafon

You’re right. Neither Ellsberg nor the Navy sailors in 1778 should have been allowed to decide if they could leak it. But, since the information is important, I hope the jurors take that into account.

The only reason Ellsberg avoided jail was prosecutorial misconduct so serious the whole case was thrown out.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:19:47pm

re: #299 Belafon

You’re right. Neither Ellsberg nor the Navy sailors in 1778 should have been allowed to decide if they could leak it. But, since the information is important, I hope the jurors take that into account.

Ellsberg did it well. The jurors should decide what happened. Let the sentencing judge, if she’s convicted, credit her motives.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:20:17pm

re: #302 HappyWarrior

I have a giant buddha in the yard and a house teeming with Hindu art.

I’ve actually seen the freakout.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:20:49pm
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BeachDem  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:21:34pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:21:46pm

re: #304 Decatur Deb

Ellsberg did it well. The jurors should decide what happened. Let the sentencing judge, if she’s convicted, credit her motives.

I also hope she gets points for not running to another country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:23:18pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:23:34pm

re: #308 Belafon

I also hope she gets points for not running to another country.

That’s part of “doing it right”, assuming she’s not so naive she didn’t see how it might be a problem.

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Nyet  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:23:46pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:24:59pm

re: #311 Nyet

Not joining any religion that involves needles.

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EPR-radar  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:27:57pm

re: #312 Decatur Deb

Not joining any religion that involves needles.

Or cupping.

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BeachDem  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:28:10pm

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

So good, it bore repeating.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:29:04pm

re: #313 EPR-radar

Or cupping.

“Take this cup from me.”

“No … really … take them away.”

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Charles Johnson  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:29:31pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 5, 2017 • 5:31:34pm

re: #316 Charles Johnson

The Republican party is a cesspit of Satan. So this business of Winner being a Satanist is just more projection from Republicans.

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retired cynic  Jun 5, 2017 • 7:26:10pm

re: #53 darthstar

In other news…I’m looking at getting one of these little things…Friend’s cattle dog just had pups and Banjo needs a little brother/sister…I can’t stop looking at this fuckin’ pic.

[Embedded content]

Rats, I’m too many threads behind!

We used to have one that kept growing and getting curlier. Turned out his mother had an affair with the owner’s standard poodle. He was an idiot, and got hit by a car. We got another one, who was a dandy, but he insisted on ‘heeling’ our farm guests (and we had a lot of them), and he had to go back to his breeder. He looked just like the mama in that photo. Sigh. Good dogs. Busy.

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retired cynic  Jun 5, 2017 • 8:12:54pm

re: #282 Charles Johnson

He sure loves sitting at that desk and making a bunch of people in suits stand around him, smile and clap. Jerk.


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Another Democrat Starting Trump Impeachment Process Come on guys, get behind the bill. All of us. we should get behind this bill as it emerges as fast as we attacked the BCA. Following Donald Trump’s equivocating of white supremacists and those who oppose them in ...
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How Militias Became the Private Police for White Supremacists Magazine Guns to a protest? Clubs? We can not tolerate anti American militias. The bloody weekend in Charlottesville that began with several hundred chanting white supremacists on a torch-lit march will long be remembered for the searing image of a ...
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Starting in 2018, Police Dogs Injured in the Line of Duty Can Be Transported by EMS to Veterinary Clinics ST. CLAIR COUNTY, IL – Ambulances are for people. It’s always been the law of the land. In Illinois, it'll soon be "almost always". Illinois Governor, Bruce Rauner, signed House Bill 2661, Tuesday. It will allow police dogs to ...
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At Last, a Big, Successful Trial of Probiotics - the Atlantic Aside from preventing sepsis, it also reduced the risk of infections by both the major groups of bacteria: the Gram-positives, by 82 percent; and the Gram-negatives, which are harder to treat with antibiotics, by 75 percent. It even reduced ...
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The New War on Birth Control - Pacific Standard Although it wasn't clear at the time, the attack on Phillips marked the beginning of a new anti-contraception movement—conceived in the U.S., but unfolding in Africa, where women's frustrations with the dearth of safe, effective family planning options are ...
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M83 - Do It, Try It (David Wilson Video) M83 - Do It, Try It video by David Wilson. Following the video's premiere at Sundance Next Fest it is now available to watch online. The track is taken from M83's seventh studio album Junk, available to buy & ...
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Marvel’s the Defenders It’s all coming together. Learn about The Defenders from the stars themselves: Charlie Cox, Krysten Ritter, Mike Colter and Finn Jones. Marvel’s The Defenders premieres globally August 18, 2017, only on Netflix. Watch The Defenders on Netflix: netflix.com SUBSCRIBE: ...
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AG Madigan Issues Guidelines for Responding to Sexual Assault Crimes “We took a comprehensive look at why sexual assault survivors rarely report their crimes to law enforcement, and it was clear that our criminal justice system can and must respond, investigate and better support survivors,” Illinois Attorney General Lisa ...
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