James Comey Appealed to Jeff Sessions: Don’t Leave Me Alone With Trump

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According to the New York Times, after former FBI director James Comey was asked by Donald Trump to shut down the investigation into Michael Flynn’s dealings with Russia, Comey went to Attorney General Jeff Sessions and begged him: don’t leave me alone with Trump again.

As it turns out, this wasn’t something Comey would need to worry about for long, since Trump fired him soon after he realized Comey wasn’t going to do his bidding.

WASHINGTON — The day after President Trump asked James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, to end an investigation into his former national security adviser, Mr. Comey confronted Attorney General Jeff Sessions and said he did not want to be left alone again with the president, according to current and former law enforcement officials.

Mr. Comey believed Mr. Sessions should protect the F.B.I. from White House influence, the officials said, and pulled him aside after a meeting in February to tell him that private interactions between the F.B.I. director and the president were inappropriate. But Mr. Sessions could not guarantee that the president would not try to talk to Mr. Comey alone again, the officials said.

Mr. Comey did not reveal, however, what had so unnerved him about his Oval Office meeting with the president: Mr. Trump’s request that the F.B.I. director end the investigation into the former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, who had just been fired.

And now Comey is going to have to face tough questions from Congress about why he kept this very incriminating interaction with our so-called president secret.

UPDATE at 6/7/17 11:05:02 am by Charles Johnson

Comey’s written testimony for tomorrow’s hearing has now been posted at the Senate website. Some important sections:

A few moments later, the President said, “I need loyalty, I expect loyalty.” I didn’t move, speak, or change my facial expression in any way during the awkward silence that followed. We simply looked at each other in silence. The conversation then moved on, but he returned to the subject near the end of our dinner.

[…]

The President then returned to the topic of Mike Flynn, saying, “He is a good guy and has been through a lot.” He repeated that Flynn hadn’t done anything wrong on his calls with the Russians, but had misled the Vice President. He then said, “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.” I replied only that “he is a good guy.” (In fact, I had a positive experience dealing with Mike Flynn when he was a colleague as Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency at the beginning of my term at FBI.) I did not say I would “let this go.”

[…]

On the morning of March 30, the President called me at the FBI. He described the Russia investigation as “a cloud” that was impairing his ability to act on behalf of the country. He said he had nothing to do with Russia, had not been involved with hookers in Russia, and had always assumed he was being recorded when in Russia. He asked what we could do to “lift the cloud.”

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:01:42am
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Ace-o-aces  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:02:13am
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KGxvi  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:04:18am

re: #2 Ace-o-aces

Well, no president has ever been this corrupt or incompetent.

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:05:24am

That’s a very specific denial.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:06:22am
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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:07:01am

re: #4 jaunte

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That’s a very specific denial.

AKA a ‘tell.’

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:07:26am

re: #6 makeitstop

“in Russia”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:07:32am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

UPDATE: Comey’s written testimony included: Trump said, “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go.”

That’s just the way he talks. Inside, his soul was saying: “Do your job thoroughly and spare nobody, no matter how high up or closely connected to me!”

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:07:59am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:08:34am

re: #8 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s just the way he talks. Inside, his soul was saying: “Do your job thoroughly and spare nobody, no matter how high up or closely connected to me!”

You just have to know what’s in Trump’s heart.

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:09:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:10:48am

Time for the “I’m not saying it was aliens” meme except with Russian hookers

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:11:41am

alternately: In Russia, hookers not mention you!

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:11:46am

The girls weren’t hookers, just enthusiasts.
They said they were from Sweden.
We were offshore.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:12:43am
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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:13:49am

Speaking of Sessions…

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:13:56am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:14:19am

re: #17 Kragar

They want to go out of business?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:14:53am

re: #16 darthstar

Speaking of Sessions…

Fake news, NBD, they just want to spend more time with their families.

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:14:53am

re: #18 Sir John Barron

They want to go out of business?

especially if they offer double shots for every misspelled word

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:15:25am
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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:15:47am
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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:15:54am

re: #19 Sir John Barron

Fake news, NBD, they just want to spend more time with their families lawyers.

/

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:16:21am

re: #16 darthstar

I think Jon Cooper is riding the LWNJ train.

All his tweets seem like he has such knowledge, that he doesn’t.

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TedStriker  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:17:02am

re: #21 Stanley Sea

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Oh, I think we all know what “that thing” is: Comey submarining Hillary right before the election.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:19:09am

re: #25 TedStriker

Oh, I think we all know what “that thing” is: Comey submarining Hillary right before the election.

Trump assumes Comey was in on the fix.

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TedStriker  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:20:55am

re: #26 Barefoot Grin

Trump assumes Comey was in on the fix.

Well, by the result we got, Trump actually wouldn’t be wrong in that assumption.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:21:35am

re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Time for the “I’m not saying it was aliens” meme except with Russian hookers

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:21:42am

re: #24 Stanley Sea

I think Jon Cooper is riding the LWNJ train.

All his tweets seem like he has such knowledge, that he doesn’t.

Well, there’s a lot of that going around. Hopefully this is accurate. I fuckin’ hate Spicer and want him to fade away like an every day nobody.

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:22:05am
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Teukka  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:22:36am

Watching this docu on the Stockholm truck attack (dunno if it is enabled outside Sweden): svtplay.se

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:23:13am

re: #21 Stanley Sea

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“that thing”, I’ve seen less ridiculous phraseology from mafia caricatures.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:23:52am

He typed this from the CNN desk.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:25:02am

Comey’s written testimony…pretty fuckin’ brutal.

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Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:25:14am

re: #33 Stanley Sea

Like that’s going to matter.

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:25:37am
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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:26:10am

re: #32 Timothy Watson

“that thing”, I’ve seen less ridiculous phraseology from mafia caricatures.

Did you get that thing I sent ya?

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:26:49am

re: #34 darthstar

Comey’s written testimony…pretty fuckin’ brutal.

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This:

The President then made a long series of comments about the problem with
leaks of classified information - a concern I shared and still share. After he had
spoken for a few minutes about leaks, Reince Priebus leaned in through the door
by the grandfather clock and I could see a group of people waiting behind him.
The President waved at him to close the door, saying he would be done shortly.
The door closed.

The President then returned to the topic of Mike Flynn, saying, “He is a
good guy and has been through a lot.” He repeated that Flynn hadn’t done
anything wrong on his calls with the Russians, but had misled the Vice President.
He then said, “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn
go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.” I replied only that “he is a good
guy.”
(In fact, I had a positive experience dealing with Mike Flynn when he was a
colleague as Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency at the beginning of my
term at FBI.) I did not say I would “let this go.”

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:27:54am

re: #32 Timothy Watson

“that thing”, I’ve seen less ridiculous phraseology from mafia caricatures.

Sound more like Seinfeld.

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covfefe  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:28:37am

re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Time for the “I’m not saying it was aliens” meme except with Russian hookers

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:29:25am
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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:29:51am

re: #40 covfefe

It was hookers in Russia…not Russian hookers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:30:59am

re: #42 darthstar

It was hookers in Russia…not Russian hookers.

Case dismissed!

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:31:41am

re: #33 Stanley Sea

He typed this from the CNN desk.

Unmasking! Unmasking! Leaks!

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:32:20am

re: #33 Stanley Sea

He typed this from the CNN desk.

Yeah but DJT is a “good guy. He’s been through a lot. Can we just let this go?”

/

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:33:21am

re: #33 Stanley Sea

Comey’s statement establishes obstruction of justice by Trump. Period.

— Jeffrey Toobin

Next: Pro-Trump group releases anti-Toobin ad. Says Toobin a “grandstander, showboater.”

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:34:20am

re: #16 darthstar

Speaking of Sessions…

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It so bad that rats like Sessions and Spicer no longer can be around the top rat and need to leave the rat’s nest.

That is bad. What’s a rat to do?

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covfefe  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:34:24am

re: #42 darthstar

It was hookers in Russia…not Russian hookers.

Ok, fine!

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:39:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:41:28am
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retired cynic  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:41:36am

Not nearly the entertainment value of Comey testimony, but pretty scary: Raymond Barrett op-ed in NYT about why Qatar is in the stocks.

nytimes.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:43:29am

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:43:37am

Out of my complete frustration with politics I had to drop another email to my favorite GOP target, Rob Portman Ohio Senator. Can I share it with the class? I’ll put it in a private tag so as not to take up too much space and make it easy to ignore if you choose.

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:44:49am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:45:25am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:46:12am

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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“Completely appropriate”, “serves at the pleasure of the President”, etc.

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whitebeach  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:47:56am

re: #14 jaunte

The girls weren’t hookers, just enthusiasts.
They said they were from Sweden.
We were offshore.

That was no hooker, that was my wife. And daughter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:49:50am

“I guess I didn’t put enough thought into…” is probably the operative phrase here.

Actually, there was NO thought put into it other than blaming black and brown people for everything wrong in her life…

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:49:58am

re: #48 covfefe

Ok, fine!

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Thanks.

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:51:19am
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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:51:34am

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I guess I didn’t put enough thought into…” is probably the operative phrase here.

Actually, there was NO thought put into it other than blaming black and brown people for everything wrong in her life…

They would not vote for the party that actually attempted to cover everyone. The evidence of how each party acted was right in front of them, and they chose wrong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:51:53am

so, VP says elites are now a good thing…

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:52:33am

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

so, VP says elites are now a good thing…

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Why can’t any Joe Sixpack be an astronaut?

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:53:15am

re: #63 Timothy Watson

Why can’t any Joe Sixpack be an astronaut?

Because we don’t vote on astronauts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:54:21am

as any sympathetic, feeling person would do…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:55:49am
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Mike Lamb  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:57:50am

re: #34 darthstar

Comey’s written testimony…pretty fuckin’ brutal.

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But we were reliably informed in the tweet quoted in the initial post on this thread that the “Democratic narrative” was collapsing. Was that tweeter misinformed?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:59:20am
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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 11:59:42am

re: #67 Mike Lamb

But we were reliably informed in the tweet quoted in the initial post on this thread that the “Democratic narrative” was collapsing. Was that tweeter misinformed?

She probably just talked to the wrong hookers.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:00:23pm

re: #67 Mike Lamb

But we were reliably informed in the tweet quoted in the initial post on this thread that the “Democratic narrative” was collapsing. Was that tweeter misinformed?

If you only watch and read Republican propaganda, and carefully avoid the news, like a good cult member, the Democrats are a failed party who made up the Russia scandal.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:00:28pm

re: #61 Belafon

They would not vote for the party that actually attempted to cover everyone. The evidence of how each party acted was right in front of them, and they chose wrong.

Yeahbutt…Trump wasn’t an established Republican so they believed that bullshit and used it to lie to themselves.

They did forget to look into Trump to see he was not a great businessman and was actually a lying untrustworthy con artist bigot. That IS where they fucked up.

They bought a fantasy. Now reality hits and they are crying. They need to learn from this and they need to bombard their Congress people and let them know of their unhappiness with Trump. They still have some voice in this…if they aren’t too dense to know it.

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ericblair  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:00:33pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s easy to mock this sort of thing, but a lot of people really believed in Trump,…

That just pushes it back a level. Now you have to ask why they believed everything that came out of Trump’s orifice, and wouldn’t believe Clinton if she told them grass was green. You can call them credulous hicks, but it seems the credulity only extended in a particular direction.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:00:41pm

re: #56 Timothy Watson

“Completely appropriate”, “serves at the pleasure of the President”, etc.

THE PRESIDENT CAN FIRE ANYBODY AT ANY TIME FOR WHATEVER REASON AND COMEY WAS SHOWBOATING AND POLITICIZING THE INVESTIGATION!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:01:04pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:01:06pm

re: #70 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If you only watch and read Republican propaganda, and carefully avoid the news, like a good cult member, the Democrats are a failed party who made up the Russia scandal.

And, frankly, not even people.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:02:11pm

This needs to bring Trump down and anyone who enabled him.

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retired cynic  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:02:37pm

re: #51 retired cynic

Not nearly the entertainment value of Comey testimony, but pretty scary: Raymond Barrett op-ed in NYT about why Qatar is in the stocks.

nytimes.com

And the WP has more history of the problem:

washingtonpost.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:02:38pm

re: #72 ericblair

That just pushes it back a level. Now you have to ask why they believed everything that came out of Trump’s orifice, and wouldn’t believe Clinton if she told them grass was green. You can call them credulous hicks, but it seems the credulity only extended in a particular direction.

It always has. These are the same people who pick at imagined flaws in evolutionary theory, but never question their absurd local superstitions. They’re fantasy-prone, motivated-thinkers, who really want to pretend to be quality people while behaving horribly.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:03:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:04:57pm

re: #79 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Yep, well played by Comey.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:06:09pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Yep, well played by Comey.

This is an FBI boss, he knows how to pre-empt his opponents, and Trump is showing his innate inability to deal with anyone he cannot buy off or walk away from.

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Joe Bacon  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:06:51pm

Looks like Comey did the Gap Band Thing!

The Gap Band - You Dropped A Bomb On Me

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gocart mozart  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:07:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:07:06pm

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is an FBI boss, he knows how to pre-empt his opponents, and Trump is showing his innate inability to deal with anyone he cannot buy off or walk away from.

Yep. I have a feeling he’s going to freak out during the testimony tomorrow. Sucks I have to work.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:07:32pm

re: #83 gocart mozart

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Don Trumpione.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:07:42pm

So, if Mueller is letting Comey testify to all of this then I am guessing he has a case bigger than simple obstruction?

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:09:31pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

When Trump asked everyone but Comey to leave, Pence and Kelly complied. Sessions and Kushner lingered. Ask those two why they tried to stay.

The kindest interpretation is that they realized how inappropriate it was for the two of them to be alone.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:10:20pm

Ghost of Richard Nixon: I had to resign over less than this crap.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:10:20pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Don Trumpione.

Donny Two Scoops

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gocart mozart  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:11:10pm
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whitebeach  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:12:21pm

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is an FBI boss, he knows how to pre-empt his opponents, and Trump is showing his innate inability to deal with anyone he cannot buy off or walk away from.

Unfortunately one of the opponents he chose to preempt was Hillary, with his sandbagging last-second announcement about “new e-mails,” which was a lie in itself. She was right to blame her defeat largely on him. So basically fuck him, even if he’s finally seen a little bit of the light, just like all those whining idiots in Kentucky regretting their votes.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:13:01pm

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is an FBI boss, he knows how to pre-empt his opponents, and Trump is showing his innate inability to deal with anyone he cannot buy off or walk away from.

Exactly. He obviously never learned a damn thing about government. He used that “a business man is needed” BS to fool even himself that he could do what he did in the private sector and make this work.

It was never a good thing to think a businessman makes a good president. America should have learned that from Bush 2.

The fact that he is a crappy businessman never seemed to dawn on his party or his backers. Making the thinking even more screwed up.

America: “Hey maybe we need a businessman to break away from all these politicians that never get it done. Let’s choose the worst one we can and see how it works!”

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:13:03pm

re: #91 whitebeach

Regret but one up-ding, etc.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:14:15pm

re: #90 gocart mozart

Hoax! FAke News! Witchhunt!

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:14:15pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Don Trumpione.

Donny “The Grabber” Trumpione

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:15:22pm

re: #91 whitebeach

Unfortunately one of the opponents he chose to preempt was Hillary, with his sandbagging last-second announcement about “new e-mails,” which was a lie in itself. She was right to blame her defeat largely on him. So basically fuck him, even if he’s finally seen a little bit of the light, just like all those whining idiots in Kentucky regretting their votes.

Yeah, the last part especially. I am so sick of hearing how I should be sympathetic to idiots who voted for someone who promised to fuck them over and is now in the process of trying to do just that.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:16:07pm

So Comey did tell Trump he was not personally under investigation? Guessing he wouldn’t inform him if he was?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:16:10pm

re: #95 ObserverArt

Donny “The Grabber” Trumpione

Donnie “Smell hands.”

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:16:50pm

I’m lousy at grifting from government …

I was paid $10 for the postage to mail the water samples to the state Monday out of the village’s petty cash account (saves the village writing a cheque and such).

Today when I paid my water bill I sent along a dime to put back in the petty cash because the postage was actually $9.90 (as I noted when I turned in the receipt).

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:16:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:19:39pm

re: #100 Stanley Sea

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Hmmmm

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:22:09pm

I think it’s obvious that Trump was trying to intimidate Comey and I think Comey feels that way too. This needs to bring him down. It really does. I mean ideally I’d love a special election with Clinton-Kaine running against Trump again but that won’t happen.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:22:37pm

re: #100 Stanley Sea

[Abby D. Phillip ✔ @abbydphillip
Comey worked under Obama for 3 years and spoke to him alone 2X. Comey spoke to Trump one-on-one 9X in 4 months.
2:11 PM - 7 Jun 2017
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2 times. Well, it is obvious this needs to be investigated since this is new information. /

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:24:15pm

ATTN: congresspeople preparing your questions for tomorrow

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TedStriker  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:26:50pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

When Trump asked everyone but Comey to leave, Pence and Kelly complied. Sessions and Kushner lingered. Ask those two why they tried to stay. pic.twitter.com

— Will Saletan (@saletan) June 7, 2017

Because they knew that Trump was about to do and say something monumentally stupid.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:27:33pm

Thunderstorms and hail right now, usually the combination that knocks my Internet service out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:30:12pm

re: #104 Stanley Sea

Interesting. Comey recalls “nine one-on-one conversations” with Trump.

Only 5 are listed in his opening statement

therefore he is a liar and grandstander and his testimony is invalid

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petesh  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:34:07pm

re: #77 retired cynic

And the WP has more history of the problem:

washingtonpost.com

Don’t know much about geography,
Don’t know much trigonometry
Don’t know much about algebra,
Don’t know what a slide rule is for

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:34:36pm
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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:34:37pm

re: #53 ObserverArt

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:35:07pm

re: #109 Belafon

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“He tried to grab me by the pussy and I fucked him up.”

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:35:38pm

Good times!

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gocart mozart  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:36:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:37:11pm

re: #112 Stanley Sea

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Good times!

It really is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:37:14pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

Exactly. He obviously never learned a damn thing about government. He used that “a business man is needed” BS to fool even himself that he could do what he did in the private sector and make this work.

It was never a good thing to think a businessman makes a good president. America should have learned that from Bush 2.

The fact that he is a crappy businessman never seemed to dawn on his party or his backers. Making the thinking even more screwed up.

America: “Hey maybe we need a businessman to break away from all these politicians that never get it done. Let’s choose the worst one we can and see how it works!”

And Bush 2 was a crappy businessman in his own right.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:38:10pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Bush 2 was a crappy businessman in his own right.

Maybe just maybe we should stop electing people that sell themselves as good business men. H.W. Bush, weirdly enough, a decent businessman but didn’t use that in his presidential push.

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petesh  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:38:30pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Bush 2 was a crappy businessman in his own right.

W missed his calling: Baseball Commissioner

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:38:50pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

America: “Hey maybe we need a businessman to break away from all these politicians that never get it done. Let’s choose the worst one we can and see how it works!”

I t was just a sign of how people were fed up with politics and politicians that they would choose such an ill-suited candidate out of pure protest.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:41:12pm

re: #117 petesh

W missed his calling: Baseball Commissioner

He would have been great at that because he wouldn’t have needed to bring Cheney along.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:41:38pm

re: #110 Anymouse

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Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:41:58pm

President Trump’s Approval Rating Hit Another New Low

Trumpshit hits 34%.

time.com

Lock him up, and his whole damn family too.

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:42:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:42:32pm

re: #121 Skip Intro

President Trump’s Approval Rating Hit Another New Low

Trumpshit hits 34%.

time.com

Lock him up, and his whole damn family too.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes below 30% after Comey testifies.

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:43:31pm
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calochortus  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:44:36pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes below 30% after Comey testifies.

I dunno. The statement Comey put out seems to be something of a political Rorschach test. Conservatives seem to think the fact he doesn’t say Trump overstepped means he doesn’t think Trump did anything wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:45:22pm

re: #124 wrenchwench

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Yeah and we wonder why political discussion in this country is fucked. Here’s the GOP using a meme to “rebuke” Comey’s testimony.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:45:49pm

re: #125 calochortus

I dunno. The statement Comey put out seems to be something of a political Rorschach test. Conservatives seem to think the fact he doesn’t say Trump overstepped means he doesn’t think Trump did anything wrong.

Yeah I guess we’ll see.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:46:13pm

re: #124 wrenchwench

Trying to find something of substance in Comey’s opening statement like pic.twitter.com

— GOP

Your president must be concerned because he’s running anti-Comey ads.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:47:21pm
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TedStriker  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:48:04pm

re: #121 Skip Intro

President Trump’s Approval Rating Hit Another New Low

Trumpshit hits 34%.

time.com

Lock him up, and his whole damn family too.

Except for Barron…they may still be time to get him into a truly loving home and deprogram him of the Trumpness.

///sorta

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:48:13pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes below 30% after Comey testifies.

If he goes below 30% approval it should be seen as the Mendoza Line* of politics.

* Sports term. For anyone not familiar here is the Wiki explanation:

The Mendoza Line is an expression in baseball in the United States, deriving from the name of shortstop Mario Mendoza, whose poor batting average is taken to define the threshold of incompetent hitting. The cutoff point is most often said to be .200[1] (although Mendoza’s career average was .215) and, when a position player’s batting average falls below that level, the player is said to be “below the Mendoza Line”. This is often thought of as the offensive threshold below which a player’s presence in Major League Baseball cannot be justified, regardless of his defensive abilities. The term is used in other contexts when one is so incompetent in one key skill that other skills cannot compensate for that deficiency.

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b.d.  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:48:16pm

heh

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:49:01pm

re: #120 ObserverArt

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Well, that could be, though we did have a Democratic representative in NE-2 (Omaha) and the district gave up an electoral vote for President Obama in 2008. (Then gerrymandering the three House districts came along to ensure that wouldn’t happen again.)

The electoral votes each state gets are interesting in their own right. With the exception of Maine and Nebraska, it is impossible to gerrymander those.

In Maine and Nebraska, you can, since electoral votes in the two states are apportioned by House district and not winner-takes-all.

So when you hear a Republican suggest in your state that you should get behind the model Nebraska and Maine uses, you should resist it. While our state has used that model for a very long time, GOP state legislatures proposing it now are doing so to be able to gerrymander electoral votes.

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Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:49:35pm

re: #130 TedStriker

Why take the risk?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:50:22pm

re: #129 Ace-o-aces

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I don’t mind the Germans being the good guys for a change. I just wish we could be the good guys with them.

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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:50:23pm

Someone on my Facebook feed said that Pence canceled a scheduled appearance on MSNBC.

Wagons, circling…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:50:45pm

re: #131 ObserverArt

If he goes below 30% approval it should be seen as the Mendoza Line* of politics.

* Sports term. For anyone not familiar here is the Wiki explanation:

Good analogy there!

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:51:27pm

re: #125 calochortus

I dunno. The statement Comey put out seems to be something of a political Rorschach test. Conservatives seem to think the fact he doesn’t say Trump overstepped means he doesn’t think Trump did anything wrong.

I’d like to see ‘that thing’ become a political meme on social media. The possibilities are endless.

E.g. Colonel Mustard did it in the Billiard Room with That Thing

Trump pulls That Thing out of the **** of a Russian hooker.

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Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:51:28pm

re: #124 wrenchwench

The GOP response shows just how likely impeachment is. They’ll burn the country to the ground first.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:51:30pm

re: #132 b.d.

heh

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Heh Switzer is why you shoulodn’t just assume things by the way a man talks and looks. He’s a big liberal IIRC.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:52:04pm

re: #125 calochortus

I dunno. The statement Comey put out seems to be something of a political Rorschach test. Conservatives seem to think the fact he doesn’t say Trump overstepped means he doesn’t think Trump did anything wrong.

This is where the media should step in and help people to understand why Comey did what he did and why what Trump was attempting was obstructive.

I expect Democrats to define it, but with The Great Political Divide™ in this country that may not be enough.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:52:36pm

re: #133 Anymouse

Well, that could be, though we did have a Democratic representative in NE-2 (Omaha) and the district gave up an electoral vote for President Obama in 2008. (Then gerrymandering the three House districts came along to ensure that wouldn’t happen again.)

The electoral votes each state gets are interesting in their own right. With the exception of Maine and Nebraska, it is impossible to gerrymander those.

In Maine and Nebraska, you can, since electoral votes in the two states are apportioned by House district and not winner-takes-all.

So when you hear a Republican suggest in your state that you should get behind the model Nebraska and Maine uses, you should resist it. While our state has used that model for a very long time, GOP state legislatures proposing it now are doing so to be able to gerrymander electoral votes.

The VA GOP tried that and even our ex governor the con thought it was bullshit. NO way should anyone get more electoral votes in a state that get less than the plurality of.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:53:29pm

re: #122 Kragar

Germany is quietly building a European army under its command

If Germany really does spend a whole 2% of its GDP on military as Trump insisits, recall that it has the largest economy in Europe and will wind up the largest military in Europe.

Be careful what you wish for, Donny…

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No Depression  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:53:48pm

re: #125 calochortus

I dunno. The statement Comey put out seems to be something of a political Rorschach test. Conservatives seem to think the fact he doesn’t say Trump overstepped means he doesn’t think Trump did anything wrong.

Well yeah, conservatives really aren’t very good at interpreting subtext.

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Nyet  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:53:49pm

re: #121 Skip Intro

“Time to start another war!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:55:26pm

re: #129 Ace-o-aces

Germany excited to finally be good guy in next World War

Germany has always been ahead of the times…they were fighting communism before fighting communism was what we did…

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Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:55:28pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:57:04pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Heh Switzer is why you shoulodn’t just assume things by the way a man talks and looks. He’s a big liberal IIRC.

Nah, he’s a trumper

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:57:21pm

re: #145 Nyet

“Time to start another war!”

Imagine a scenario in which Germany leads a coalition of Allied forces in an invasion to topple a Fascist leader in the United States…

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No Depression  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:57:45pm

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany has always been ahead of the times…they were fighting communism before fighting communism was what we did…

And the communists there were ahead of the times as well. They were putting fascists in power by fighting the “impure” before it was cool.

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covfefe  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:57:46pm

re: #147 Dr. Matt

Didn’t you listen to darth? It’s “hookers in Russia”. ;)

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:59:25pm

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

Imagine a scenario in which Germany leads a coalition of Allied forces in an invasion to topple a Fascist leader in the United States…

And has to defend an invading Russia from the east.

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Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:59:42pm

So now Amazon is down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 12:59:46pm

re: #125 calochortus

I dunno. The statement Comey put out seems to be something of a political Rorschach test. Conservatives seem to think the fact he doesn’t say Trump overstepped means he doesn’t think Trump did anything wrong.

well, that could be because the Conservatives in question are ignorant.

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BeachDem  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:00:04pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“I guess I didn’t put enough thought into…” is probably the operative phrase here.

Actually, there was NO thought put into it other than blaming black and brown people for everything wrong in her life…

I read that whole article, and I return to my mantra about yam voters—stupid or hateful or both.

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BlueGrl21  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:00:09pm

RE: Trump not personally being under investigation….

He personally was not under investigation because he was not a courier directly to the Russians. His toadies were. Flynn, Manafort, Kushner, etc. That’s how it’s done. Putin is not going to personally call Flynn.

But his CAMPAIGN is under investigation. That’s the money, honey. The system itself. Trump is one player in what may be….and I believe it is….a conspiracy. Mueller is going after the whole system. Comey was talking about the flunkies individually.

Trump and the Republicans do NOT get it. They’re trying to cover up for individuals and it’s exposing the entire system and pulling Trump into a REAL personal investigation….obstruction of justice.

Why can those morons NEVER see the big picture? Nuance and language, how do they work?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:00:27pm

re: #148 Stanley Sea

Nah, he’s a trumper

Is he really? Damn, I had heard he was pretty progressive.What changed?

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TedStriker  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:00:39pm

re: #153 Skip Intro

So now Amazon is down.

I’m getting in just fine…

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:01:55pm

A commenter at RedState provides today’s dose of irony so massive it will destabilize the Local Galaxy Cluster:

I have to ask for a Democrat when does it become more important to destroy your political opposition than preserving the system that makes it all possible?

I ask because I always point this out. This is a conservative site, but we are adherents to a zombie of a political philosophy. Our entire philosophy revolved around rules and process a modicum of balance and refs that interpreted, the rules evenly. Once the left decided to flip over the table because they weren’t able to make their case, we became obsolete. What comes after us, is looking very nasty indeed.

Of course it is the US right that is wrecking everything because it has no rational case.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:04:14pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:04:28pm

re: #159 EPR-radar

A commenter at RedState provides today’s dose of irony so massive it will destabilize the Local Galaxy Cluster:

Of course it is the US right that is wrecking everything because it has no rational case.

To answer this question, your ideology became about opposing anything Obama proposed, see ACA, that has more in common with what conservatives of the 90’s wanted on health care than moderates in the Democratic Party wanted let alone liberals. See also guns. The NRA opposes regulations it once strongly supported. Your ideology in short has become about opposing liberalism and you showed that you were willing to support an unqualified Russian colluding dipshit to prove it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:05:15pm

re: #160 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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His voters are fuckwits. And I increasingly feel less bad for them as the days go on.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:05:17pm

re: #159 EPR-radar

A commenter at RedState provides today’s dose of irony so massive it will destabilize the Local Galaxy Cluster:

Of course it is the US right that is wrecking everything because it has no rational case.

Well….this hurts my feelings.

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Nyet  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:05:46pm

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

Imagine a scenario in which Germany leads a coalition of Allied forces in an invasion to topple a Fascist leader in the United States…

Unlikely. With Russia tho…

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:05:47pm

re: #159 EPR-radar

A commenter at RedState provides today’s dose of irony so massive it will destabilize the Local Galaxy Cluster:

Of course it is the US right that is wrecking everything because it has no rational case.

Nothing surprises me about the right wing any more. I assume the RedState commenter has nothing to say about Sen. Mitch McConnell’s “we’re going to make him a one-term president” and obstructing a Supreme Court seat for political reasons and their own damn healthcare plan because Obama proposed it and their own Federal judgeships because they didn’t want to give a “victory” to the Democrats, &… .

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:06:47pm

re: #163 Sir John Barron

Well….this hurts my feelings.

HAha you’re triggered, now let me go bitch about a plastic cup!

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:08:34pm

Weird. Following along on the FE Warren AFB weather radar (which covers my area), and the storm that just went through town is intensifying and making a U-turn. Each town in my county has one rotating thunderstorm near it.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:08:50pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

Is he really? Damn, I had heard he was pretty progressive.What changed?

Barry Switzer?

Oklahoma Okie since forever.

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:09:35pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:11:04pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

His voters are fuckwits. And I increasingly feel less bad for them as the days go on.

Same here. Their being fuckwits is true but mostly irrelevant. No intelligence at all was required to see what trump is or to see through his lies.

trump’s campaign can be summarized as “1) the sun is blue (the jobs promises) and 2) let’s hate on Mexicans, Muslims etc.”

People crying now about how they really thought trump was correct that the sun was blue are just covering up their support of (or militant indifference to) #2 above.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:11:19pm

re: #168 Stanley Sea

Barry Switzer?

Oklahoma Okie since forever.

Edit - I’m not positive of his past, but he was at a trump rally during the campaign.

I’ve always thought of him as a hick.

Sorry to all hicks present.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:12:21pm

re: #168 Stanley Sea

Barry Switzer?

Oklahoma Okie since forever.

Could have sworn I remember him supporting John Edwards.

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Teukka  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:12:22pm

re: #169 Kragar

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:13:00pm

re: #171 Stanley Sea

Edit - I’m not positive of his past, but he was at a trump rally during the campaign.

I’ve always thought of him as a hick.

Sorry to all hicks present.

Aha okay, I had not heard about that.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:13:12pm

re: #169 Kragar

I’m clear: if human rights laws get in the way of tackling extremism and terrorism, we will change those laws to keep British people safe. pic.twitter.com

— Theresa May

This seems….

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Mike Lamb  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:13:55pm

re: #125 calochortus

I dunno. The statement Comey put out seems to be something of a political Rorschach test. Conservatives seem to think the fact he doesn’t say Trump overstepped means he doesn’t think Trump did anything wrong.

So there are a bunch of morons out there that don’t understand what a “memo to file” means?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:13:57pm

re: #169 Kragar

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Britain’s in what I call the King Charles-Cromwell bind.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:14:32pm

re: #170 EPR-radar

Same here. Their being fuckwits is true but mostly irrelevant. No intelligence at all was required to see what trump is or to see through his lies.

trump’s campaign can be summarized as “1) the sun is blue (the jobs promises) and 2) let’s hate on Mexicans, Muslims etc.”

People crying now about how they really thought trump was correct that the sun was blue are just covering up their support of (or militant indifference to) #2 above.

Exactly. So tehy’ve fallen on hard times, that’s no excues to be a racist bigot.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:15:08pm

re: #169 Kragar

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High Chancellor Sutler couldn’t have said it better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:16:45pm

re: #163 Sir John Barron

Well….this hurts my feelings.

fuck your feelings….

///////

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Mike Lamb  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:17:39pm

re: #159 EPR-radar

A commenter at RedState provides today’s dose of irony so massive it will destabilize the Local Galaxy Cluster:

Of course it is the US right that is wrecking everything because it has no rational case.

It’s amazing that they think Democrats and the media are just inventing this story. GOP controls the gov’t right now. If there was truly nothing there, it’d have gone the way of the dodo months ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:18:26pm

re: #169 Kragar

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did she steal that necklace from Wilma Flintstone?

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:20:36pm

Local radar

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:21:41pm

re: #169 Kragar

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:22:32pm

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

Imagine a scenario in which Germany leads a coalition of Allied forces in an invasion to topple a Fascist leader in the United States…

Irony rears her glorious head.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:22:36pm

re: #181 Mike Lamb

It’s amazing that they think Democrats and the media are just inventing this story. GOP controls the gov’t right now. If there was truly nothing there, it’d have gone the way of the dodo months ago.

It’s what the propaganda outlets that replaced news for Conservatives tell them to believe. A few will see through it, but most will believe whatever propaganda they’re fed.

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Jay C  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:23:52pm

re: #133 Anymouse

So when you hear a Republican suggest in your state that you should get behind the model Nebraska and Maine uses, you should resist it. While our state has used that model for a very long time, GOP state legislatures proposing it now are doing so to be able to gerrymander electoral votes.

Ab-so-frickin’-lutely. To the max. It’s just one of those schemes that sounds good to folks ticked off about the Electoral College system, but in practicality would serve to give Republicans (or rather to preserve) an artificial advantage in Presidential polling precisely akin to the gerrymandering advantage that gives them a leg up in Congressional representation. A state with “district” Electoral voting could go for the Democrats by a 2-1 or 3-1 margin overall: but as long as those vote totals (however vast) are concentrated in a few “blue” districts, the GOPer is still going to walk away with a couple of EVs they wouldn’t otherwise get. Which could definitely make a difference in a close race.
The Electoral College system with its winner-take-all rules may not be a ideal setup for the expression of the citizenry’s democratic aspirations: but we shouldn’t run to replace it with something worse. In this case, “conservatism” is a good idea.

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No Depression  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:26:03pm

It was Barry Switzer who once said, “There are many people who don’t know what real pressure is. Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple.”

Huh.

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blueraven  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:26:05pm

So much bullshit from Trumpists re Comey testimony.

We elected an outsider!
He didn’t know any better!
He is not steeped in the ways of DC, but he is learning!

Give me a break. He knew exactly what he was doing when he dismissed everyone from the oval office except Comey.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:27:23pm

Some days I love the internet. Here’s pierre9045 at DailyKos on the subject of trump’s likely reaction to the written Comey statement:

Uh oh, someone find trump’s binky, he’s probably in full-blown toddler tantrum right about now. Fried chicken grease and poorly-digested formula are probably smeared all over the oval office right about now. The only thing left un-kicked over, his life-sized cardboard cutout of himself that he keeps around so he always knows he’s not the dumbest person in the room, and the poor intern that is left to translate his guttural dolphin yelps into some sort of semi-recognizable twitter screed about fake news and his dynamite physique.

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blueraven  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:27:36pm

re: #189 blueraven

So much bullshit from Trumpists re Comey testimony.

We elected an outsider!
He didn’t know any better!
He is not steeped in the ways of DC, but he is learning!

Give me a break. He knew exactly what he was doing when he dismissed everyone from the oval office except Comey.

He was advised not to do what he did.

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Nyet  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:28:06pm

I love when Sparks is (are?) topical.

Don’t Leave Me Alone With Her

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:29:15pm

re: #169 Kragar

re: #173 Teukka

The irony of both of your tweets is quoting rebellious colonists at the British Prime Minister.

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No Depression  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:29:23pm

re: #189 blueraven

So much bullshit from Trumpists re Comey testimony.

We elected an outsider!
He didn’t know any better!
He is not steeped in the ways of DC, but he is learning!

Give me a break. He knew exactly what he was doing when he dismissed everyone from the oval office except Comey.

Those sound like very good reasons not to vote for someone. But what do I know; I’m just an elitist with more than one brain cell.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:30:36pm

re: #191 blueraven

He was advised not to do what he did.

twitler is a legend in his own mind. Master of All Masters. God-Emperor of the Fuckwits. Lord Captain Commander of the Armies of the Night. Taking advice is for lesser beings.

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Teukka  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:30:43pm

re: #193 Blind Frog Belly White

The irony of both of your tweets is quoting rebellious colonists at the British Prime Minister.

We need to test the Irony Meter(tm).

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:31:27pm

re: #175 Sir John Barron

This seems….

It seems every country that puts a conservative party in charge, the first thing that party wants to do is suspend civil liberties. (See also Canada under Stephen Harper.)

One might remind Ms. May that as awful as the killings at the Ariana Grande concert and London Bridge were, the UK’s police forces and citizens served admirably. As awful as those attacks were, we get more people dead in a workplace violence attack with guns.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:31:54pm

re: #196 Teukka

We need to test the Irony Meter(tm).

Probably needs recailbrating constantly these days. You can only push the needle into the red so many times before the mechanism is compromised.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:31:56pm

re: #189 blueraven

So much bullshit from Trumpists re Comey testimony.

We elected an outsider!
He didn’t know any better!
He is not steeped in the ways of DC, but he is learning!

Give me a break. He knew exactly what he was doing when he dismissed everyone from the oval office except Comey.

Nailed it. And if he didn’t know any better, eh has no business running the coutnry.Sorry but PResident isn’t an internship.

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SteelPH  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:32:03pm

re: #195 EPR-radar

twitler is a legend in his own mind. Master of All Masters. God-Emperor of the Fuckwits. Lord Captain Commander of the Armies of the Night. Taking advice is for lesser beings.

He also has zero self-control or impulse control.

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Teukka  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:32:31pm

re: #198 Blind Frog Belly White

Probably needs recailbrating constantly these days. You can only push the needle into the red so many times before the mechanism is compromised.

Exactly. We can’t have it exploding unexpectedly under overload conditions.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:33:17pm

So sick of the pathetically low expectations Trumpers give their guy but yet acted like Obama had the power to completely stop terrorism.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:33:35pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:34:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:35:12pm

Hey Trump didn’t know you’re not supposed to give state secrets any way to the Russians. Come on, he’s new at this. If it sounds like soemthing, you’d laugh t or go ballistic over if someone made teh excuse for Obama or Clinton, then maybe you’re a pathetic hack.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:35:33pm

Been some time since I did a P-shop.

Thin skinned too!
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:35:38pm

re: #204 Charles Johnson

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Sean Hannity is probably raging somewhere.

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blueraven  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:36:47pm

re: #194 No Depression

Those sound like very good reasons not to vote for someone. But what do I know: I’m just an elitist with more than one brain cell.

I am not necessarily opposed to an “outsider”. However, one must be smart enough to surround him or her self with those who have some expertise in the area of governance.
Trump has access to advisers, legal and political. He knew better.

POTUS can not be excused from unethical and/or unlawful behavior by feigning ignorance.

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No Depression  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:37:15pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

Sean Hannity is probably raging somewhere.

Isn’t that his default state, though?

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:37:20pm

Uh oh, severe thunderstorm warnings just went up for the south half of my county, and more storms are forming to the west and north.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:37:34pm
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No Depression  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:37:51pm

If you say “fake news” in front of a mirror three times, the Russia investigation will go away.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:37:57pm

re: #209 No Depression

Isn’t that his default state, though?

Hahah true true.

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whitebeach  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:39:34pm

re: #210 Anymouse

Uh oh, severe thunderstorm warnings just went up for the south half of my county, and more storms are forming to the west and north.

Go east, young man.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:41:23pm

re: #206 ObserverArt

Been some time since I did a P-shop.

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Real Chief Petty Officer libelz. CPOs in the Navy know what they’re doing. /s

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Nyet  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:41:27pm

re: #211 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Ugh (said I after watching a dozen of times).

Why are they so … uh… compactly situated?

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:41:55pm

re: #206 ObserverArt

Been some time since I did a P-shop.

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Chief Petty Officers can be tough bastards. I would suggest Petty Chief Officer.

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CleverToad  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:42:06pm

re: #211 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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eeeeeeeee!
a nope for every one of those leggy little buggers…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:43:17pm

re: #216 Nyet

Ugh (said I after watching a dozen of times).

Why are they so … uh… compactly situated?

I DON’T KNOW.

It took like 4 replays for me to even start to figure out what was going on and then I had to share the pain inflict it on you all too post it here.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:43:26pm

re: #214 whitebeach

Go east, young man.

LOL. Lemme dig my prairie schooner out of the garage …

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:44:28pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

Sean Hannity is probably raging somewhere.

Actually he’s journalizing somewhere, getting really close to information from someone who might know someone who used to know something about someone who worked with someone who lived next door to someone who once knew Seth Rich.

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Nyet  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:45:08pm

re: #219 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Would it be safe to assume those are daddy longlegs rather than spiders?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:45:18pm

re: #221 Sir John Barron

Actually he’s journalizing somewhere, getting really close to information from someone who might know someone who used to know something about someone who worked with someone who lived next door to someone who once knew Seth Rich.

I once was in the same city as Seth Rich. Maybe I can help Insepctor Lumpyteau.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:46:22pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

I think Jon Cooper is riding the LWNJ train.

All his tweets seem like he has such knowledge, that he doesn’t.

Agreed. I’m tired of all the speculative talk about people resigning from the Trump regime. Can we refrain from speculation and just report on the news? Are we going to do this for the entire 4 years of Trump’s term?

(I’m exhausted from all this winning!!)

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whitebeach  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:46:24pm

re: #212 No Depression

If you say “fake news” in front of a mirror three times, the Russia investigation will go away.

Wait a minute: I thought it was supposed to be “radical Islamic terrorism” that worked like that.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:46:26pm

ok when is the georgia 6th vote?

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:46:44pm

re: #226 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

ok when is the georgia 6th vote?

June 20.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:47:15pm

re: #192 Nyet

I love when Sparks is (are?) topical.

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Video

Thanks for keeping Sparks music alive here on LGF. I’ve always been a big a fan of their music and especially their humor.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:48:00pm
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blueraven  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:48:18pm

heh…

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:48:21pm

re: #25 TedStriker

Oh, I think we all know what “that thing” is: Comey submarining Hillary right before the election.

And Trump would be right. Comey chose to reveal information about Secretary Clinton right before the election at the same time when he intentionally withheld information about Trump thus turning the White House over to Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:48:35pm

We have our primary on Tuesday. Hopefully one of the candidates I’ve been working for pulls out a win.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:49:20pm

re: #229 Stanley Sea

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Go down suckah.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:52:30pm

re: #222 Nyet

Would it be safe to assume those are daddy longlegs rather than spiders?

Yes, that would be my call.

I don’t really draw a distinction between them because I want neither in my house.

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blueraven  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:52:55pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:52:58pm

re: #217 Belafon

Chief Petty Officers can be tough bastards. I would suggest Petty Chief Officer.

It’s an image not to be taken literally.

Think about it…he IS the damn Chief of being petty as president. Pettiness is his whole make-up. And he holds the highest office…so he is the highest “officer.”

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majii  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:53:01pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

“His voters are fuckwits. And I increasingly feel less bad for them as the days go on.”

I stopped caring about listening to their alleged concerns after they voted to put the POS in the Oval Office. They got caught up in his celebrity and his bombastic rhetoric and forgot to look at “the man behind the curtain.” If they’re now disappointed and are discovering he lied to them and they have lots to lose if his policies are implemented, it’s their own d*mn fault.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:54:05pm

Wonkette summarises the hearings before the Senate Intelligence Committee today, where all four witnesses clammed up and wouldn’t say anything.

Democrats and Angus King were furious (as shown in the clips). Senator John McCain called their testimony “Orwellian.”

wonkette.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:54:46pm

re: #224 Patricia Kayden

Agreed. I’m tired of all the speculative talk about people resigning from the Trump regime. Can we refrain from speculation and just report on the news? Are we going to do this for the entire 4 years of Trump’s term?

(I’m exhausted from all this winning!!)

I agree wholeheartedly. Hate these leaks from the WH, especially since some of them (reportedly) knowingly leak disinformation. Let’s wait to see what happens.

Meantime — what do we do to stop McConnell from passing TrumpDontCare while our attention is diverted to the circus?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:55:10pm

re: #235 blueraven

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Tick Tock

TICK TOCK

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:55:19pm

re: #238 Anymouse

Wonkette summarises the hearings before the Senate Intelligence Committee today, where all four witnesses clammed up and wouldn’t say anything.

Democrats and Angus King were furious (as shown in the clips). Senator John McCain called their testimony “Orwellian.”

wonkette.com

McCain could start by being the country first person he ran as in 2008 but that’d mean not being a hack in line with himself.

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Nyet  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:55:51pm

re: #234 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For some reason ddlls disgust me much less than average spiders.

But I did not know about the stacking.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:56:54pm

re: #241 HappyWarrior

McCain could start by being the country first person he ran as in 2008 but that’d mean not being a hack in line with himself.

Surely you mean McCain in 2000 here. By 2008, McCain’s descent into hackitude was complete.

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majii  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:57:00pm

re: #191 blueraven

“He was advised not to do what he did.”

Which is exactly why top law firms have declined to represent him in the Trump/Russian mess. They already know he doesn’t pay what he owes, and that any advice they give him will be ignored. Trump is a man who is controlled by his emotions.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 1:59:41pm

re: #234 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yes, that would be my call.

I don’t really draw a distinction between them because I want neither in my house.

They’re both arachnids, so arachnophobia covers them. And mites.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:00:05pm

re: #244 majii

“He was advised not to do what he did.”

Which is exactly why top law firms have declined to represent him in the Trump/Russian mess. They already know he doesn’t pay what he owes, and that any advice they give him will be ignored. Trump is a man who is controlled by his emotions.

trump still doesn’t realize that by becoming potus* he has left the safe comfort of the Rich Asshole Bubble in which he has live his entire adult life, within which his whims are all catered to as if they came from the Throne of God.

When this finally sinks in, trump is going to want to nuke something as part of a screaming toddler temper tantrum.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:00:25pm

re: #244 majii

“He was advised not to do what he did.”

Which is exactly why top law firms have declined to represent him in the Trump/Russian mess. They already know he doesn’t pay what he owes, and that any advice they give him will be ignored. Trump is a man who is controlled by his emotions.

and they know that he lies

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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:02:52pm

re: #244 majii

Trump is a man who is controlled by his emotions.

Which means, at bottom, that he is a man with no self-control.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:02:55pm

Weather service has now extended the severe thunderstorm warning in a weird shaped polygon that comes within half-a-mile of my village.

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:02:55pm

re: #96 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yeah, the last part especially. I am so sick of hearing how I should be sympathetic to idiots who voted for someone who promised to fuck them over and is now in the process of trying to do just that.

Worse…I have no sympathy for them AT ALL as they are not just killing themselves, they are taking along a few million people who knew trump was lying.

That’s not something I can forgive and forget and make nicey nice.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:04:03pm

re: #237 majii

“His voters are fuckwits. And I increasingly feel less bad for them as the days go on.”

I stopped caring about listening to their alleged concerns after they voted to put the POS in the Oval Office. They got caught up in his celebrity and his bombastic rhetoric and forgot to look at “the man behind the curtain.” If they’re now disappointed and are discovering he lied to them and they have lots to lose if his policies are implemented, it’s their own d*mn fault.

Except, as long as the EC exists, we need to get these voters in order to win elections since the Bernie diehards are worthless. We cannot stop voter suppression until we control White House again. So we need them. If they were the only ones harmed by his policies, I might agree with you — but we are all being harmed. You don’t win voters by insulting them (unless you are Donald Trump). It is certainly possible that if Clinton had not described half of his supporters as deplorable (true though it was), the outcome would have been different.

But again, many of these people had seen no improvement in their lives under Obama and figured Clinton would be more of the same. So they rolled the dice and we all lost.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:04:24pm

re: #191 blueraven

He was advised not to do what he did.

Nevertheless, he persisted.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:04:47pm

re: #243 EPR-radar

Surely you mean McCain in 2000 here. By 2008, McCain’s descent into hackitude was complete.

He claimed ot be coutnry first in 2008 is what I meant. I agree with you on that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:05:05pm

Jim sure does know how to troll:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:06:22pm

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:06:36pm

re: #250 MsJ

Worse…I have no sympathy for them AT ALL as they are not just killing themselves, they are taking along a few million people who knew trump was lying.

That’s not something I can forgive and forget and make nicey nice.

I can feel bad for the person who mishandles his firearm and shoots himself. But if he shoots someone else, that sympathy dries right up.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:06:43pm

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jim sure does know how to troll:

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Maybe I’m just old fashioned but I wouldn’t take theoloigical advise from someone woh calls himself Mr. Lady Gaga.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:07:34pm

re: #225 whitebeach

Wait a minute: I thought it was supposed to be “radical Islamic terrorism” that worked like that.

No no no…if a Senator makes Comey say “Semaj Yemoc” he gets sent to the prison from Superman 1 and the investigation goes away.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:07:58pm
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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:08:22pm

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

IOKIYAGod. Mysterious ways, yadayada.

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Citizen K  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:09:51pm

Police like the ID despite not being “official” because it helps build a rapport with the local immigrants and helps them feel safe enough to actually come to the police and report crimes. Clearly, this means that the IDs have to be banned because how dare you treat Undocumented Immigrants as anything other than illegal subhuman invaders stealing all our oxygen!!!!

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:10:14pm
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Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:10:19pm

Once asshole in chief hits 29, the GOP will begin abandoning his orange ass.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:10:43pm

Evening Lizardim.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:11:05pm

re: #263 Dr. Matt

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Once asshole in chief hits 29, the GOP will begin abandoning his orange ass.

They’ll act like they never nominated him. Hopefully that infuriates their base and their base sits the next election out allowing for a massive Dem wave.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:12:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:13:18pm

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Except you assholes claimed he had better judgment than HRC. Own it or get the fuck out.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:13:27pm

@GOP attempted humor….and failed….

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whitebeach  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:13:31pm

re: #262 Charles Johnson

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Josh Jordan ✔ @NumbersMuncher
Just a smart pupper riding a tortoise down the street for your afternoon enjoyment.

Obviously a dog from out of town or he would have caught the express.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:14:04pm

re: #265 HappyWarrior

They’ll act like they never nominated him. Hopefully that infuriates their base and their base sits the next election out allowing for a massive Dem wave.

Wave elections are how you overcome gerrymandering.

A wave election this time around is extremely important, as state legislatures will be up as well, and the census is right around the corner.

It was the Tea Party wave in 2010 that got us in this gerrymandering mess. It will take another wave to get us out of it.

However, GOP voters can be reliably counted on to be driven to the polls for some fever-dream fear-mongering. “Bathrooms! Gay Marriage! Abortion! Taxes!”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:14:26pm

Personal responsibility*
* it’s the fault of the poor they’re poor

**Also we’re not responsible for the man our party nominated for president.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:15:14pm

re: #262 Charles Johnson

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“That’s the LAST TIME I use Uber.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:15:17pm

re: #270 Anymouse

Wave elections are how you overcome gerrymandering.

A wave election this time around is extremely important, as state legislatures will be up as well, and the census is right around the corner.

It was the Tea Party wave in 2010 that got us in this gerrymandering mess. It will take another wave to get us out of it.

However, GOP voters can be reliably counted on to be driven to the polls for some fever-dream fear-mongering. “Bathrooms! Gay Marriage! Abortion! Taxes!”

Let a guy dream, okay!

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:16:45pm

re: #273 HappyWarrior

Let a guy dream, okay!

Well, Democrats don’t normally run on fear issues, but we have one this time: The subversion of our democratic republic.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:18:26pm

re: #274 Anymouse

Well, Democrats don’t normally run on fear issues, but we have one this time: The subversion of our democratic republic.

Dude the wave, the wave.

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Nyet  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:18:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:19:35pm

Anyhow final stretch of primary work. Hopefully it pays off.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:20:38pm

re: #276 Nyet

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Someone with a great, deep voice needs to read this!

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SteelPH  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:21:08pm

re: #278 HappyWarrior

Someone with a great, deep voice needs to read this!

James Earl Jones.

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b_sharp  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:21:50pm

re: #219 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I DON’T KNOW.

It took like 4 replays for me to even start to figure out what was going on and then I had to share the pain inflict it on you all too post it here.

My arachnophobia has reacted to that video more than once.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:21:58pm

re: #279 SteelPH

James Earl Jones.

Excellent choice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:22:01pm

re: #279 SteelPH

James Earl Jones.

I heard it in my head in the voice of Vincent Price.

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Joe Bacon  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:22:47pm

re: #278 HappyWarrior

Someone with a great, deep voice needs to read this!

Only one man can give that justice…THE SHAT!!!!!!!!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:22:59pm
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blueraven  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:24:14pm

Of course RW is now claiming Trump has been vindicated; that Comey corroborates that Trump is not under investigation.

Nope..he told him he was not personally under investigation (at east at the time) but warned him that to inform the public about that would not be a smart move.

“I explained that we had briefed the leadership of Congress on exactly which individuals we were investigating and that we had told those Congressional leaders that we were not personally investigating President Trump,” Comey recalled. “I reminded him I had previously told him that. He repeatedly told me, ‘We need to get that fact out.’”

But Comey wouldn’t do it. He refused repeated, direct demands from the president that he say publicly what he had several times assured him in private—that the Bureau “did not have an open counter-intelligence case on him.” Comey said there were “a number of reasons” for his refusal, “most importantly because it would create a duty to correct, should that change.”

For Comey, “duty to correct” is a loaded phrase.

theatlantic.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:24:23pm
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allegro  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:26:19pm

re: #279 SteelPH

James Earl Jones.

Patrick Stewart

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:26:26pm
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No Depression  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:27:17pm

re: #268 Dr. Matt

@GOP attempted humor….and failed….

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lol

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:29:23pm

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:30:19pm

re: #287 allegro

Patrick Stewart

There’s a skinny, elderly gentleman who I see walking downtown regularly. He looks like Patrick Stewart with 20 or 30 more years on him. I hope I’m not staring when I see him.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:31:11pm

The warned area ends two blocks south of my house. With the issue of small stream flooding however, the two irrigation canals that run through my town might be a problem (one of them is only 200 yards from my house).

National Weather Service Cheyenne WY
304 PM MDT WED JUN 7 2017

The National Weather Service in Cheyenne has issued a

* Small Stream Flood Advisory for…
Southern Morrill County in the Panhandle of Nebraska…

* Until 600 PM MDT

* At 304 PM MDT, trained weather spotters reported heavy rain
causing small stream flooding across many county roads in southern
Morrill County. Up to two inches of rain have already fallen.

* Some locations that will experience flooding include…
Court House And Jail Rocks, The Intersection Of Highway 385 And 92,
Chimney Rock State Park and Redington.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:32:10pm

GOP right about now…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:32:44pm

re: #283 Joe Bacon

Only one man can give that justice…THE SHAT!!!!!!!!

Not enough commas in all of Christendom.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:34:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:35:48pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh but Hillary is a lizer.//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:36:16pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:36:22pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

[This won’t end well]

It’s been unwell for years already.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:36:32pm

OT: My wife is still working on the new drapes she’s making. She decided she likes pencil pleats better than French pleats, and to reward herself for completing the first panel, she put aside that work and took up her knitting project (a duvet for our bed).

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:37:23pm

I am honored to be “selected by the Republican National Committee to represent Voters (sic) in Alabama’s 2nd Congressional District.” My participation is urgently needed in the 2017 Congressional District Census.

(follows a 2 page, 50 question push poll and a fundraising request.)

Hee, hee, hee

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:38:56pm

That we have a president in his 4th month with a personal attorney is beyond comprehension.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:38:59pm

re: #300 Decatur Deb

I am honored to be “selected by the Republican National Committee to represent Voters ( sic) in Alabama’s 2nd Congressional District.” My participation is urgently needed in the 2017 Congressional District Census.

(follows a 2 page, 50 question push poll and a fundraising request.)

Hee, hee, hee

Send them a bill for your time answering the questionnaire.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:41:16pm

re: #301 Stanley Sea

That we have a president in his 4th month with a personal attorney is beyond comprehension.

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Good, let him be delusional. Such a good look.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:41:30pm

re: #302 Anymouse

Send them a bill for your time answering the questionnaire.

Want them to keep wasting their postage and handling. As far as they know, my Archie Bunker FIL is still alive and dwelling in my basement.

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:41:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:43:15pm

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah dismissing with a meme. Such a great look for y’all.

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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:43:22pm

Notice the discretely flipped pizza, so you can’t tell re: pineapple.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:43:40pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:43:53pm

re: #301 Stanley Sea

I think ‘mobster mouthpiece’ is a little more accurate than ‘personal attorney’ here.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:44:24pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“And what are your qualifications?”

“Rape, murder, arson, and rape.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:45:38pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“Goddammit! You all need to climb onto the deck of this sinking ship, before you miss the chance to drown with the rest of us!”

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:45:50pm

re: #306 HappyWarrior

Yeah dismissing with a meme. Such a great look for y’all.

I’m old enough to remember when the GOP had ‘party of ideas’ as one of its talking points. They don’t even try any more.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:46:39pm

re: #287 allegro

Patrick Stewart

I’d kind of like to hear Nick Cave reading it.

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Citizen K  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:47:58pm

re: #278 HappyWarrior

I’d be remiss if I dared compare myself to James Earl Jones, or anyone reasonably talented, but I took a crack at it, because…well, why not? Mind, an aging headset mic is not the best recording equipment, but it’s all I have on hand.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:48:20pm

Jim Bakker Issues A Fatwa-Christianists Will Start Civil War If Trump Is Impeached (VIDEO)RWW News: Bakker: Civil War If Trump’s Impeached

I’m sure his feeble 77 year old ass will be right there in the front line of this “war.” Oh, well, it’s the spirit that counts and Jim is no doubt willing to fight to the last redneck.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:48:46pm

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

More like this.

Homer disappears into bushes

Oh wait. That’s Spicer. Never mind.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:49:15pm

re: #239 Hecuba’s daughter

I agree wholeheartedly. Hate these leaks from the WH, especially since some of them (reportedly) knowingly leak disinformation. Let’s wait to see what happens.

Meantime — what do we do to stop McConnell from passing TrumpDontCare while our attention is diverted to the circus?

We wait and hope the Senate does something realistic. And since nothing is being said right now about it, I’m guessing it is still too hot to touch.

It isn’t going anywhere right now, and Mitch has no control over it.

I think the House passed it as is just for political reason…protect thine ass.

They shoved it on the Senate to actually do something knowing they couldn’t but it looks good at to everyone that still supports them and doesn’t go to town halls to light them up.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:49:50pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thinking more about this, McConnell’s demanding that the GOP Caucus get on board for a bill with 20% approval, repealing a law with >50% approval, at the behest of a President with 34% approval, who has just been outed as obstructing justice and firing the FBI director for failing to quash an investigation.

Seriously, what leverage does he have here? Not that it won’t work, but my question is - WHY?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:51:24pm

re: #318 Blind Frog Belly White

Thinking more about this, McConnell’s demanding that the GOP Caucus get on board for a bill with 20% approval, repealing a law with >50% approval, at the behest of a President with 34% approval, who has just been outed as obstructing justice and firing the FBI director for failing to quash an investigation.

Seriously, what leverage does he have here? Not that it won’t work, but my question is - WHY?

It’ll work because ultimately, We, the People, are too fucking lazy and stupid to vote against the motherfuckers who are screwing us over right now.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:51:55pm

re: #318 Blind Frog Belly White

Thinking more about this, McConnell’s demanding that the GOP Caucus get on board for a bill with 20% approval, repealing a law with >50% approval, at the behest of a President with 34% approval, who has just been outed as obstructing justice and firing the FBI director for failing to quash an investigation.

Seriously, what leverage does he have here? Not that it won’t work, but my question is - WHY?

Tax cuts uber alles. The GOP fat cats will get an immediate payback, and they will try to compensate for the shit that they passed with increased propaganda efforts from hate radio, Fox News and the many both-siderist quislings in the MSM.

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SteelPH  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:52:10pm

re: #318 Blind Frog Belly White

Thinking more about this, McConnell’s demanding that the GOP Caucus get on board for a bill with 20% approval, repealing a law with >50% approval, at the behest of a President with 34% approval, who has just been outed as obstructing justice and firing the FBI director for failing to quash an investigation.

Seriously, what leverage does he have here? Not that it won’t work, but my question is - WHY?

So much for “The Will of the People”, eh?

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No Depression  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:52:24pm

re: #318 Blind Frog Belly White

Thinking more about this, McConnell’s demanding that the GOP Caucus get on board for a bill with 20% approval, repealing a law with >50% approval, at the behest of a President with 34% approval, who has just been outed as obstructing justice and firing the FBI director for failing to quash an investigation.

Seriously, what leverage does he have here? Not that it won’t work, but my question is - WHY?

Because fuck that n*gger that was in the White House.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:53:15pm

re: #315 Shiplord Kirel

Note that Jim’s prepper food scam operates out of the hayseed Las Vegas, Branson Mo.

Branson has also been called the “‘all you can eat’ capital of the world.”
You don’t think….Nah, couldn’t be.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:53:28pm

re: #315 Shiplord Kirel

Jim Bakker Issues A Fatwa-Christianists Will Start Civil War If Trump Is Impeached (VIDEO)[Embedded content]

I’m sure his feeble 77 year old ass will be right there in the front line of this “war.” Oh, well, it’s the spirit that counts and Jim is no doubt willing to fight to the last redneck.

Convicted felon says what?

(Today’s trivia: Bakker’s cellmate at the Federal Medical Center, Rochester, in Rochester, Minnesota was Lyndon LaRouche.)

en.wikipedia.org

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:53:31pm

re: #321 SteelPH

So much for “The Will of the People”, eh?

Republicans could not possibly care less about the will of the people.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:54:07pm

re: #312 EPR-radar

I’m old enough to remember when the GOP had ‘party of ideas’ as one of its talking points. They don’t even try any more.

Well, those ideas included the John Birch Society with Goldwater, Senator Joe McCarthy insisting the government was chock full of communists, Nixon’s Southern Strategy, Reagan’s dogwhistle to racists launching his campaign in Philadelphia, Miss., Geo. W. Bush launching a war against a country that did us no harm (Iraq).

They’re ideas. Not particularly good ones, but ideas.

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SteelPH  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:54:27pm

re: #325 EPR-radar

Republicans could not possibly care less about the will of the people.

Exactly.

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jeffreyw  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:54:34pm

re: #314 Citizen K

I’d be remiss if I dared compare myself to James Earl Jones, or anyone reasonably talented, but I took a crack at it, because…well, why not? Mind, an aging headset mic is not the best recording equipment, but it’s all I have on hand.

Well done!

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SteelPH  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:56:06pm

re: #314 Citizen K

I’d be remiss if I dared compare myself to James Earl Jones, or anyone reasonably talented, but I took a crack at it, because…well, why not? Mind, an aging headset mic is not the best recording equipment, but it’s all I have on hand.

Heh. Not bad.
I’d try it myself, but if you’ve ever heard me in my videos, I may have a very broad vocal range, but my baritone is a bit limited.

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Nyet  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:56:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:56:41pm

yep, it’s her

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BeachDem  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:56:53pm

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Sing it with me, GOP:

We didn’t know at all
We didn’t see a thing
You can’t hold us to blame
What could we do
It was a terrible shame
But we can’t bear the blame
Oh no not us—we didn’t know…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:57:54pm

last night actually now, but still…

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SteelPH  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:57:56pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ratfuckery ahoy!

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:58:18pm

re: #301 Stanley Sea

That we have a president in his 4th month with a personal attorney is beyond comprehension.

[Embedded content]

Some vindication:

I explained that we had briefed the leadership of Congress on exactly which individuals we were investigating and that we had told those Congressional leaders that we were not personally investigating President Trump. I reminded him I had previously told him that. He repeatedly told me, “We need to get that fact out.” (I did not tell the President that the FBI and the Department of Justice had been reluctant to make public statements that we did not have an open case on President Trump for a number of reasons, most importantly because it would create a duty to correct, should that change.)

Trump’s overeagerness to pre-clear himself in the investigation is a strong indication that deep down he felt guilty.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 2:59:10pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nice find. I don’t pay much attention to LWNJ types on the internet, but this would seem to firmly peg Louise as a RWNJ ratfucker.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:00:12pm

re: #336 EPR-radar

Nice find. I don’t pay much attention to LWNJ types on the internet, but this would seem to firmly peg Louise as a RWNJ ratfucker.

Who pays her bills?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:00:26pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:00:46pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep, it’s her

[Embedded content]

“Transition team full of good people and he’s deferring to democrats. Bad people shoved out.”

Clearly she was awash in wishful thinking.

Two days later, Trump announced that Steve Bannon would be his Senior Adviser.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:01:45pm

re: #337 Decatur Deb

Who pays her bills?

Rupert

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petesh  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:02:01pm

re: #335 goddamnedfrank

Some vindication:

Trump’s overeagerness to pre-clear himself in the investigation is a strong indication that deep down he felt guilty.

Now, why would he feel that? Let me guess … GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:02:15pm

re: #339 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t know that she’s an RWNJ ratfucker, but she’s a loon, or a liar, or something that you shouldn’t lend any credence to.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:03:44pm

re: #251 Hecuba’s daughter

Except, as long as the EC exists, we need to get these voters in order to win elections since the Bernie diehards are worthless. We cannot stop voter suppression until we control White House again. So we need them. If they were the only ones harmed by his policies, I might agree with you — but we are all being harmed. You don’t win voters by insulting them (unless you are Donald Trump). It is certainly possible that if Clinton had not described half of his supporters as deplorable (true though it was), the outcome would have been different.

But again, many of these people had seen no improvement in their lives under Obama and figured Clinton would be more of the same. So they rolled the dice and we all lost.

That part in bold gets me every time I see something like it mentioned.

Do people forget what Obama inherited as far as the economy?

Do they realize how close the country was to economic collapse as in depression?

Do they realize their beloved Republican party put us in that economic peril and even still obstructed Obama from implementing programs that may have improved their lives?

And I know those deep thinkers would have a hard time with the concept the improvement was we did not crash the economy and actually held ground and slowly improved.

Keeping the economy alive is sure an improvement over depression.

I know, I know, they didn’t get their pony. And Trump promised them more than a pony, they were going to get The Great Economic Unicorn in Purple sparkle.

Anyone ever see a unicorn?

And yes, I know all of my questions were rhetorical.

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TedStriker  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:04:03pm

re: #304 Decatur Deb

Want them to keep wasting their postage and handling. As far as they know, my Archie Bunker FIL is still alive and dwelling in my basement.

Hey, Archie Bunker might have been a caveman, a bigot and a loudmouth, but, ultimately, he was no moron.

Norman Lear and his scriptwriters (as well as Carroll O’Connor, a man who, IRL, was the absolute opposite of his portrayal of Bunker) was good like that.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:05:34pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rupert

Rather robs this of mystery.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:07:11pm

re: #342 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t know that she’s an RWNJ ratfucker, but she’s a loon, or a liar, or something that you shouldn’t lend any credence to.

I think she’s just another middle aged, bipolar minor celebrity who is desperate to reinvent herself. None of that would be particularly bad if she wasn’t leading tons of her weak minded wishful thinking followers down a rabbit hole of fantastical nonsense. At best she’s fomenting complacency and at worst she’s helping create a narrative where opposition to Trump can be dismissed as a lunatic fringe movement.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:07:29pm

re: #342 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t know that she’s an RWNJ ratfucker, but she’s a loon, or a liar, or something that you shouldn’t lend any credence to.

She was a Conservative Party MP in the UK. She and her lawyer keep trying to claim things on Twitter she can’t possibly know.

She also plain lies about how the US impeachment process works.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:07:30pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:07:38pm

re: #343 ObserverArt

That part in bold gets me every time I see something like it mentioned.

Do people forget what Obama inherited as far as the economy?

Do they realize how close the country was to economic collapse as in depression?

Do they realize their beloved Republican party put us in that economic peril and even still obstructed Obama from implementing programs that may have improved their lives?

And I know those deep thinkers would have a hard time with the concept the improvement was we did not crash the economy and actually held ground and slowly improved.

Keeping the economy alive is sure an improvement over depression.

I know, I know, they didn’t get their pony. And Trump promised them more than a pony, they were going to get The Great Economic Unicorn in Purple sparkle.

Anyone ever see a unicorn?

And yes, I know all of my questions were rhetorical.

All of this is very true. It is also true that the gap between the rich and everyone else further increased during Obama’s presidency, as it has done continually for decades before that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:09:18pm

re: #347 Anymouse

She was a Conservative Party MP in the UK. She and her lawyer keep trying to claim things on Twitter she can’t possibly know.

She also plain lies about how the US impeachment process works.

Lies? Hell, you’re assuming she knows the process! Her ‘impeachment process has begun’ tweets REEK of constitutional ignorance.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:09:25pm

re: #344 TedStriker

Hey, Archie Bunker might have been a caveman, a bigot and a loudmouth, but, ultimately, he was no moron.

Norman Lear and his scriptwriters (as well as Carroll O’Connor) was good like that.

FIL was no moron, he worked an 8th grade education into An Army Commendation Medal for correcting an ammo design screwup. He also thought George Patton should have been made dictator, had he lived.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:09:53pm

re: #326 Anymouse

Well, those ideas included the John Birch Society with Goldwater, Senator Joe McCarthy insisting the government was chock full of communists, Nixon’s Southern Strategy, Reagan’s dogwhistle to racists launching his campaign in Philadelphia, Miss., Geo. W. Bush launching a war against a country that did us no harm (Iraq).

They’re ideas. Not particularly good ones, but ideas.

And now we have a government full of Putin/Russian fanboys!! Plus ca change, plus ca meme.

I don’t think there are 3 honest Republicans in the Senate to stop TrumpDontCare; McConnell figures that he can slip through the tax cut for the wealthy and the House will go along with the Senate proposals. The Democrats will be totally cut out of the process. The GOP plans on governing as though we have a single party state. And unless things change in 2018, that’s what we will end up with.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:10:19pm

re: #350 Blind Frog Belly White

Lies? Hell, you’re assuming she knows the process! Her ‘impeachment process has begun’ tweets REEK of constitutional ignorance.

At some point willful ignorance combined with a refusal to stop spreading false information after it’s been pointed out to her becomes indistinguishable from lying.

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:10:29pm

re: #136 makeitstop

Someone on my Facebook feed said that Pence canceled a scheduled appearance on MSNBC.

Wagons, circling…

I read it was PBS he canceled, not MSNBC.

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TedStriker  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:10:54pm

re: #351 Decatur Deb

FIL was no moron, he worked a an 8th grade education into An Army Commendation Medal for correcting an ammo design screwup. He also thought George Patton should have been made dictator, had he lived.

Well, there’s a wee difference between “moron” and “raving lunatic”…

/

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:12:15pm

re: #355 TedStriker

Well, there’s a wee difference between “moron” and “raving lunatic”…

/

Product of his times. Did more good than harm.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:12:58pm

re: #342 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t know that she’s an RWNJ ratfucker, but she’s a loon, or a liar, or something that you shouldn’t lend any credence to.

Anybody who keeps insisting trump IS TOO BEING SECRETLY IMPEACHED RIGHT NOW needs to just be ignored. Or hospitalized.
I wonder how she will explain it if and when actual impeachment proceedings begin.

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Nyet  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:13:27pm

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

speechless

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Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:13:33pm

re: #354 MsJ

I read it was PBS he canceled, not MSNBC.

Was he going to be alone with a woman without his mother being present?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:14:55pm

what could possibly go wrong with this plan????

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:15:35pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

what could possibly go wrong with this plan????

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Everything, up to and including World War III five minutes into the phone call.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:16:38pm

re: #357 Jebediah, RBG

Anybody who keeps insisting trump IS TOO BEING SECRETLY IMPEACHED RIGHT NOW needs to just be ignored. Or hospitalized.
I wonder how she will explain it if and when actual impeachment proceedings begin.

That will be taken to be proof that she was right all along. Easy peasy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:16:50pm

re: #361 EPR-radar

Everything, up to and including World War III five minutes into the phone call.

You are more optimistic than I if you think that he’ll make it even five minutes into the call before WWIII erupts.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:17:01pm

Very interesting!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:18:26pm

re: #343 ObserverArt

That part in bold gets me every time I see something like it mentioned.

Do people forget what Obama inherited as far as the economy?

Do they realize how close the country was to economic collapse as in depression?

Do they realize their beloved Republican party put us in that economic peril and even still obstructed Obama from implementing programs that may have improved their lives?

And I know those deep thinkers would have a hard time with the concept the improvement was we did not crash the economy and actually held ground and slowly improved.

Keeping the economy alive is sure an improvement over depression.

I know, I know, they didn’t get their pony. And Trump promised them more than a pony, they were going to get The Great Economic Unicorn in Purple sparkle.

Anyone ever see a unicorn?

And yes, I know all of my questions were rhetorical.

Yeah, they really do. The 2008/2009 crisis was outside most everyone’s experience and understanding, and the fact that we DIDN’T fall off the cliff is a large part of why Obama gets so little credit. Krugman pointed this out numerous times, that this was NOT like all the recessions everyone had experienced, and that after a financial crisis like we had, recovery is long and slow, especially with weak fiscal stimulus like we saw.

Lots of folks looked at the recession of Reagan’s first term (intentionally triggered, and then ended by Paul Volcker to kill inflation) and the rapid recovery from that, and thought that should be the norm. But, Christ - interest rates then were in the high teens! Drop ‘em a few points, and the economy takes off! In 2009, we were already at ZERO. Any lower and the Fed would be literally paying people to borrow money.

Roosevelt had the ‘advantage’ of 2 years of the economy bottoming out, continued job losses, and what little Hoover did all having zero benefit. Obama prevented the collapse, so people forget how bad it could have been.

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darthstar  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:19:47pm

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:20:16pm

re: #364 Stanley Sea

Very interesting!

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Fake news, the Earth is only 6,000 years old.

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blueraven  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:20:16pm

Fox news has a major report on…

Fast and Furious!

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Nyet  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:20:49pm

re: #367 Timothy Watson

And flat.

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SteelPH  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:20:58pm

re: #367 Timothy Watson

Fake news, the Earth is only 6,000 years old.

///

And it’s flat.

///

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:21:49pm

re: #357 Jebediah, RBG

Anybody who keeps insisting trump IS TOO BEING SECRETLY IMPEACHED RIGHT NOW needs to just be ignored. Or hospitalized.
I wonder how she will explain it if and when actual impeachment proceedings begin.

“VINDICATION!!!”

She and her ilk declare vindication when anything even remotely like anything they claimed comes true.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:23:25pm

re: #368 blueraven

Fox news has a major report on…

Fast and Furious!

Of course.

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whitebeach  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:24:34pm

re: #364 Stanley Sea

Very interesting!

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Boy, you tellin me that our ancestors wasn’t just Afercans but Muslims too? Better not say that too loud in Bossier Parish.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:24:53pm

re: #372 Blind Frog Belly White

Of course.

Next up: the blow-job that rocked the world….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:25:55pm

re: #374 Barefoot Grin

Next up: the blow-job that rocked the world….

I think I had one of those, once.
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:27:52pm

re: #368 blueraven

Fox news has a major report on…

Fast and Furious!

Eh, it was okay. Vin Diesel was semi-entertaining and Dwayne Johnson…

Oh wait.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:28:20pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:31:03pm

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Nyet  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:31:08pm

“In 1956, Samuel Shenton, a signwriter by trade, created the International Flat Earth Society as a successor to the Universal Zetetic Society….”

“In 2004, Daniel Shenton (not related to Samuel)[28] resurrected the Flat Earth Society….”

Most curious part bolded.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:31:34pm

re: #377 goddamnedfrank

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I like Robert Reich even if he was drinking the Sanders kool-aide a bit too much during the primareis. Jane Sanders probably annoys me more than her husband. West, Gabbard, and Turner I cannot stand.

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freetoken  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:34:37pm

re: #364 Stanley Sea

The redating of long-ago-found (not recently found) is what draws attention:
nature.com

Then there are also new fossils:
nature.com

I think it is important to point out here that all living things are a continuation of their ancestors, so there is no “it” point, no single transitional fossil.

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BeachDem  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:34:43pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep, it’s her

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That whole thread should be required reading for LWNJs who think Louise is on their side. Many interesting revelations.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:34:56pm

re: #377 goddamnedfrank

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Imagine the PFJ without any of the humor…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:35:25pm

Aside from kissing Sanders ass, can someone tell me what maeks a former homophobe, Assad apologist like Gabbard so appealing to the far left of the party? Okay, I get it she supported Bernie but so did Jeff Merkey, Keith Elllison, and Raul Grijalva

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:35:30pm

re: #380 HappyWarrior

I like Robert Reich even if he was drinking the Sanders kool-aide a bit too much during the primareis. Jane Sanders probably annoys me more than her husband. West, Gabbard, and Turner I cannot stand.

I don’t know…Reich can seem to get a little wobbly at times. I think his heart is in the right place but his head seems to go wacky when he starts drifting from reality to pure idealism not of this world.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:36:08pm

I’m being rhetorical I guess since as far as I can only see, it’s the fact Gabbard kisses Sanders ass and trashed the DNC.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:36:24pm

re: #384 HappyWarrior

Aside from kissing Sanders ass, can someone tell me what maeks a former homophobe, Assad apologist like Gabbard so appealing to the far left of the party? Okay, I get it she supported Bernie but so did Jeff Merkey, Keith Elllison, and Raul Grijalva

Her name is not Hillary.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:36:46pm

re: #385 ObserverArt

I don’t know…Reich can seem to get a little wobbly at times. I think his heart is in the right place but his head seems to go wacky when he starts drifting from reality to pure idealism not of this world.

He’s definitely too idealistic for his own good at times I think but I don’t him as a jerk the way I do many of the others.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:37:06pm

re: #377 goddamnedfrank

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There are some solid people (Reich, Jealous, Belafonte) mixed in there.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:37:40pm

re: #387 ObserverArt

Her name is not Hillary.

They also think they can use her military record to skirt around national security trouble issues. Got news for them, I worked on the Kerry campaign, the right doesn’t respect Democrats wo serve.

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blueraven  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:37:46pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep, it’s her

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Here, she seems to believe that he was just playing the alt right and this is the real Trump. *eyeroll*

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:37:58pm

I am just waiting in anticipation for Trump to absolutely lose it on Twitter. I don’t think he’s going to make it until the testimony tomorrow. hehehe

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:38:04pm

re: #389 Decatur Deb

There are some solid people (Reich, Jealous, Belafonte) mixed in there.

Yeah Jealous is another one Ilike and respect. Bealfaonte ain’t bad either.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:39:48pm

re: #385 ObserverArt

I don’t know…Reich can seem to get a little wobbly at times. I think his heart is in the right place but his head seems to go wacky when he starts drifting from reality to pure idealism not of this world.

You say Wobbly as though that were a bad thing.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:39:56pm

re: #393 HappyWarrior

Yeah Jealous is another one Ilike and respect. Bealfaonte ain’t bad either.

Meh, I am not a Cuba embargo dead-ender, but anyone who expresses support for Castro (Belafonte) or Chavez (Glover) doesn’t get much respect from me.

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calochortus  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:40:55pm

Totally OT, but are there people out there who enjoy getting spammed by emails from various companies every day-or maybe twice a day?
Learn a new language by getting a brief podcast (and an ad or two to upgrade the service) at least once a day.
Join a shopping “service” and have a link to deals emailed a couple times a day.
Don’t join a shopping service. Just buy something, and suddenly they’re trying to sell you crap twice a day.

Who has time for this? I mean, if I do business with you and you’re having a sale this week, knock yourself out. Send me an email once or twice a month. But more than once a day? And don’t get me started on requests to “review my experience.” I do it on Ebay, because that’s how it works. Amazon? Not likely. TripAdvisor? Only if you are utterly fabulous, or really, really bad.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:42:50pm

re: #389 Decatur Deb

There are some solid people (Reich, Jealous, Belafonte) mixed in there.

I’ll give a pass to Reich but not sure you’ve heard Jealous and Belafonte in the last couple years.

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blueraven  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:42:56pm

Oh Gag. Charles Krauthammer just said Trump was trying to “seduce” Comey. Then he said, we don’t impeach for attempted seduction.

Really? Think about that for a minute.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:44:07pm

re: #392 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I am just waiting in anticipation for Trump to absolutely lose it on Twitter. I don’t think he’s going to make it until the testimony tomorrow. hehehe

I did this shop last year. He did make it to the White House, but the padded room did too. I expect that is where they are keeping him until they take him to a rally or speech. Then back in he goes.

The Trump White Room
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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:44:59pm

re: #397 goddamnedfrank

I’ll give a pass to Reich but not sure you’ve heard Jealous and Belafonte in the last couple years.

Not since Jealous was head of the NAACP. Belafonte has always been pissed, with cause.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:46:48pm

Maybe Trump isn’t so demented. After all, when he fired Comey, he wrote that Comey told him 3 times that he wasn’t under investigation and Comey confirmed that aspect of the conversation.

Every time I feel pessimistic about the future of this country, I recall my college freshman year: in the 1964 election, Goldwater was clobbered and so was the Republican party. I posted a picture on my dorm of a grave, with the headstone RIP GOP. Things turned around quickly in 1968.

So maybe we will get out of this after all.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:46:52pm

re: #381 freetoken

The redating of long-ago-found (not recently found) is what draws attention:
nature.com

Then there are also new fossils:
nature.com

I think it is important to point out here that all living things are a continuation of their ancestors, so there is no “it” point, no single transitional fossil.

Yup. Standard creationist argument.

Researcher: We have fossils A and C that show evolution between the two.
Creationist: There is a gap between A and C! We need a transitional form!

(Researchers find fossil B, that fits neatly between A and C)

Creationist: There is a gap between A and B, and B and C! We need two transitional forms!

As Orson Scott Card put it in his talk Secular Humanist Revival, What they really want is everyone’s daddy to have lain down on top of each other and died, and have none of that be disturbed by earthquakes, volcanoes, or floods.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:49:10pm

re: #393 HappyWarrior

Yeah Jealous is another one Ilike and respect. Bealfaonte ain’t bad either.

Honestly they’re both horrible. Belafonte is toxic as all fuck about both Obama and Clinton. I give Jealous some credit for trying to calm down Sanders dead enders at the convention but his bullshit hypocrisy during the primary still galls, attacking Clinton on her support for the 1990’s Crime Bill while low key pretending Sanders didn’t both vote for it and campaign for years afterward on that vote

America’s Moral Decay Has Been Made Worse By Obama & Hillary

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:49:46pm

re: #395 Timothy Watson

Meh, I am not a Cuba embargo dead-ender, but anyone who expresses support for Castro (Belafonte) or Chavez (Glover) doesn’t get much respect from me.

I didn’t know about that. Knew about glover and Hugo which is why he’s on my list. Harry’s there because of his past.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:50:27pm

re: #398 blueraven

Oh Gag. Charles Krauthammer just said Trump was trying to “seduce” Comey. Then he said, we don’t impeach for attempted seduction.

Really? Think about that for a minute.

Go away Krauthammer.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:51:07pm

re: #403 goddamnedfrank

Honestly they’re both horrible. Belafonte is toxic as all fuck about both Obama and Clinton. I give Jealous some credit for trying to calm down Sanders dead enders at the convention but his bullshit hypocrisy during the primary still galls, attacking Clinton on her support for the 1990’s Crime Bill while low key pretending Sanders didn’t both vote for it and campaign for years afterward on that vote

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Okay, I missed that. Thanks. Frai enough. Thanks Frank.

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:53:05pm
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BeachDem  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:53:49pm

re: #377 goddamnedfrank

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Neither Jane Sanders nor the experts will take salaries.

Could somebody tell me exactly what Nina Turner is an “expert” at (other than not having a job and running her mouth)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:54:22pm

re: #407 Kragar

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So much for conservatives being anst governmet intrustion. //

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:54:48pm

re: #408 BeachDem

Could somebody tell me exactly what Nina Turner is an “expert” at (other than not having a job and running her mouth)

Being Bernie’s black lady friend?

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Myron Falwell  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:55:23pm

re: #398 blueraven

Oh Gag. Charles Krauthammer just said Trump was trying to “seduce” Comey. Then he said, we don’t impeach for attempted seduction.

Really? Think about that for a minute.

“Mr. Trump, you’re trying to seduce me!”

The Simpsons - Mrs. Krabappel Are You Trying To Seduce Me

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:55:28pm

re: #396 calochortus

I just get random spam - mostly because almost everything we order here we do by the US Mail, not the Internet.

My wife ordered some leather from an Internet company a couple months ago. They telephoned today (even though she didn’t give them our telephone number, but we are listed in the phone book).

She went off on them, telling them she would never do business with them again.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:56:04pm

re: #398 blueraven

Oh Gag. Charles Krauthammer just said Trump was trying to “seduce” Comey. Then he said, we don’t impeach for attempted seduction.

Really? Think about that for a minute.

Republicans don’t impeach one of their own for high crimes and misdemeanors. The only thing that might cause Republicans to impeach potus* 45 is their own falling poll numbers.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:56:09pm

Butyes Iseriously don’t get what Nina Turner does either than just rag on the party establishment that supported her when she had no chance when she ran for Ohio SOS.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:56:24pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:56:59pm

that settles it…nobody tells trump what he should and should not do.
He’ll be tweeting tomorrow.

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No Depression  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:57:52pm

re: #398 blueraven

Oh Gag. Charles Krauthammer just said Trump was trying to “seduce” Comey. Then he said, we don’t impeach for attempted seduction.

Really? Think about that for a minute.

Now that’s an excuse that Trumpers might see through. No way their manly man of a president is gay!

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:58:43pm

re: #407 Kragar

Well, isn’t that a nice bunch of rodent copulation. Just when you thought the GOP couldn’t go lower.

Such a thing if it was to see the light of day means the costs would be passed on to everyone through price rises. The poor who use food stamps would find their store choices curtailed if stores did not remain in the programme.

That would also create an uneven playing field between stores, where profit margins are already low.

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b.d.  Jun 7, 2017 • 3:58:54pm

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

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that settles it…nobody tells trump what he should and should not do.
He’ll be tweeting tomorrow.

So much for the wingnuts love of free speech…..

//

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:00:18pm

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If the More Perfect Union survives this guy, in ten years or twenty, we are going to have to fight tooth and nail to keep people from re-writing history.

Let us never forget the complicit, the supporters, the coddlers, the folks who used this piece of shit for ratings or thought it would be a good laugh, et cetera. At every step of the way somebody could have or should have stopped this guy, and chose not to.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:00:26pm

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

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that settles it…nobody tells trump what he should and should not do.
He’ll be tweeting tomorrow.

Like he’ll listen.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:00:59pm

re: #413 EPR-radar

Republicans don’t impeach one of their own for high crimes and misdemeanors. The only thing that might cause Republicans to impeach potus* 45 is their own falling poll numbers.

Sandy Alderson and the Koch brothers will tell Trump to resign. Any move to “impeach” him will be a charade directed by the donors to give the GOP an illusion of “country before party.”

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:01:36pm

re: #407 Kragar

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Scum.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:02:06pm

I hope they change Comey’s scheduled time at the last minute. Maybe move him up a couple of hours earlier or later, and catch the Manchurian Mango on the can with his phone and nobody around to stop him.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:02:19pm
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retired cynic  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:03:49pm

re: #425 Charles Johnson

My sympathies in regard to the dearly departed.

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b.d.  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:03:57pm

re: #424 Pawn of the Oppressor

I hope they change Comey’s scheduled time at the last minute. Maybe move him up a couple of hours earlier or later, and catch the Manchurian Mango on the can with his phone and nobody around to stop him.

Bring in Rosie O’Donnell for a few warm up questions

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calochortus  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:04:09pm

re: #412 Anymouse

Yeah, I get plenty of random spam too. Some legit companies, some scams. Someone decided I live in Somerset County, PA and I get offers from car dealers, grocery stores and the like.
I just wonder how this can be a business model that people willingly sign up for. I ordered something from Nordstrom’s Rack and got at least an email a day until I told them to quit. (They did.)
I considered signing up for online language lessons, thinking you could decide when to access the material, but no-they send bunches of emails.
And while I rarely click on online ads, I saw some cute shoes and it turns out you need to join so the company involved can email you every day with random offers and if you want an item, they have it shipped from someone else to them, and then send it to you, so it’s really, really slow. Weird business model.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:05:09pm
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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:05:59pm

I wondered why my mentions suddenly exploded:

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BeachDem  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:06:29pm

re: #410 HappyWarrior

Being Bernie’s black lady friend?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:07:36pm

re: #431 BeachDem

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o9cSu7Q3rxb9hZKjUiy5qA==

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TedStriker  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:08:05pm

re: #425 Charles Johnson

My trusty but outdated iPhone 5s has gone to the Great Gadget Dump in the Sky. Giving me the dreaded “Error 4104” when I try recovery mode.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 7, 2017

re: #426 retired cynic

My sympathies in regard to the dearly departed.

Give it a Viking funeral, Charles.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:08:42pm

re: #403 goddamnedfrank

Honestly they’re both horrible. Belafonte is toxic as all fuck about both Obama and Clinton. I give Jealous some credit for trying to calm down Sanders dead enders at the convention but his bullshit hypocrisy during the primary still galls, attacking Clinton on her support for the 1990’s Crime Bill while low key pretending Sanders didn’t both vote for it and campaign for years afterward on that vote

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Video

Another fine product of The Young Turks Network.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:10:37pm

re: #425 Charles Johnson

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Tell Trump you have an excellent deal on a phone that will improve his ability to Tweet and is easier to hide from his staff.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:11:27pm

re: #425 Charles Johnson

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At my last village board meeting, someone brought up an organisation call Blue Star Recyclers. They recycle amongst other things electronic equipment.

The organisation is a 501(c)3 that specifically hires people with autism for the work of recycling valuables from electronic equipment.

We probably have twenty computers in our shed (the perils of being married to a software engineer). Next time we’re in Denver I intend to give them a call.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:15:35pm

re: #404 HappyWarrior

I didn’t know about that. Knew about glover and Hugo which is why he’s on my list. Harry’s there because of his past.

Belafonte’s views on communism are more nuanced then the right wingers will acknowledge.
rolandmartinreports.com

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:17:06pm

There are several big Flat Earth pages at Facebook. Would it surprise you that most of these mooks see “Zionist bankers” and similar types behind the great “globalist” conspiracy? Didn’t think so.
In any case, I am glad to see them so willing to out themselves (an obvious sign of the great hubris of the pop conspiracy movement).
Into the basket they go, for future perusal by HR evaluators, admissions officers, loan analysts, maybe even parole boards.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:17:20pm

Weather’s really getting nasty west and south of us. Radar indicated tornado near Kimball, severe thunderstorm warning from Sidney to Sterling, Colo. Flood warnings popping up all over the map.

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calochortus  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:17:28pm

BBL

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Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:18:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:20:31pm

re: #437 Ace-o-aces

Belafonte’s views on communism are more nuanced then the right wingers will acknowledge.
rolandmartinreports.com

Thanks defintiely is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:20:54pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:22:57pm

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

Imagine a scenario in which Germany leads a coalition of Allied forces in an invasion to topple a Fascist leader in the United States…

I am so stealing that & Tweeting it.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:23:25pm
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retired cynic  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:24:35pm

re: #436 Anymouse

At my last village board meeting, someone brought up an organisation call Blue Star Recyclers. They recycle amongst other things electronic equipment.

The organisation is a 501(c)3 that specifically hires people with autism for the work of recycling valuables from electronic equipment.

We probably have twenty computers in our shed (the perils of being married to a software engineer). Next time we’re in Denver I intend to give them a call.

There is a similar group nearby, called Pathway. It is not limited to people with autism. They take tv sets also.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:24:37pm

re: #420 Pawn of the Oppressor

If the More Perfect Union survives this guy, in ten years or twenty, we are going to have to fight tooth and nail to keep people from re-writing history.

Let us never forget the complicit, the supporters, the coddlers, the folks who used this piece of shit for ratings or thought it would be a good laugh, et cetera. At every step of the way somebody could have or should have stopped this guy, and chose not to.

Much of this damage has already been done, with the Great Forgetting of the countless Republican crimes and stupidities of the W Bush years.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:26:40pm

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

Eli Stokols ✔ @EliStokols
Chris Christie tells @NicolleDWallace Trump’s comments to Comey were “normal New York City conversation” he didn’t realize was inappropriate
3:24 PM - 7 Jun 2017
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Ignorance of the law is no excuse when committing a crime. But then Trump has never been punished in the past for criminal activities, so he had no reason to be concerned.

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retired cynic  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:26:41pm

re: #447 EPR-radar

Much of this damage has already been done, with the Great Forgetting of the countless Republican crimes and stupidities of the W Bush years.

Oh, my. Put the crimes and stupidities of the Reagan years in there, too!

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:28:16pm

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

So Christ Christie had just admitted to being as mobbed up as his fuhrer, trump.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:28:22pm

The city of Kimball is about to get trampled. Another radar-indicated tornado, along with a rotating supercell and a giant hailstorm have the city completely surrounded. Maybe they better surrender.

This is going to be a nasty weather evening round here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:31:40pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:31:54pm

Attorney: “Your honors, my client has now served 8 years of a 50 year sentence for attempting to attack his ex-wife’s wedding with a home-made flamethrower. He has deeply and sincerely repented of these actions for many years now; and thanks God, whom he has found in prison, that noone was seriously injured. He has also been a model prisoner and has completed his GED and several marketing courses while incarcerated. He is ready to resume his place and become a fully productive member of society.”

Judge: “Does your client still go around spouting that the Earth is flat and Jewish conspirators are the ones pushing the idea that it is round?”

Attorney: “Well, er, that is protected free speech.”

Judge: “Of course it is, but we are still free to take it into consideration. What about the Moon landings? Does he still insist that those were faked?”

Attorney: “Well, er, uh.”

Judge: “We’ll get back to you.”

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:32:08pm

re: #449 retired cynic

Oh, my. Put the crimes and stupidities of the Reagan years in there, too!

The last Republican president that was decent for both personality and policies was Ike, and that is because he wasn’t a real Republican.

Nixon was a crook with a democratic congress that likely forced him to be civilized on policy issues.

Edited to add: Ford pardoned Nixon.

Reagan was ghastly, GHW Bush didn’t get rid of enough of the Reagan taint, W Bush was god-awful, and trump is an abomination.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:32:26pm

re: #452 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love the smell of desperation in the evening.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:32:57pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:34:27pm

re: #456 The Vicious Babushka

Alert the media. Here’s another economically anxious Trump voter that needs to have his story told.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:34:39pm

re: #454 EPR-radar

The last Republican president that was decent for both personality and policies was Ike, and that is because he wasn’t a real Republican.

Nixon was a crook with a democratic congress that likely forced him to be civilized on policy issues.

Reagan was ghastly, GHW Bush didn’t get rid of enough of the Reagan taint, W Bush was god-awful, and trump is an abomination.

Yup. The history of Republicans in my life.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:35:21pm

re: #454 EPR-radar

The last Republican president that was decent for both personality and policies was Ike, and that is because he wasn’t a real Republican.

Nixon was a crook with a democratic congress that likely forced him to be civilized on policy issues.

Reagan was ghastly, GHW Bush didn’t get rid of enough of the Reagan taint, W Bush was god-awful, and trump is an abomination.

Gerald Ford gets no respect.

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BeachDem  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:36:30pm

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If anyone would know about veiled threats, it’s Big Chicken (Charles Pierce’s “affectionate” name for Christie.) He’s probably the one who advised the yam to lean on Comey.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:36:31pm

re: #457 EPR-radar

Alert the media. Here’s another economically anxious Trump voter that needs to have his story told.

Next on CNN: Twitter’s MrHill540 explains why he voted for Donald Trump. (We still won’t bore you with the three million more people that voted for Hillary Clinton.)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:36:32pm

re: #459 Decatur Deb

Gerald Ford gets no respect.

GErald Ford was of course the only one not elected.

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allegro  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:36:57pm

re: #459 Decatur Deb

Gerald Ford gets no respect.

I was thinking the same thing. I liked Gerry and Betty. Last time I cast a vote for a Republican actually.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:38:26pm

re: #463 allegro

I was thinking the same thing. I liked Gerry and Betty. Last time I cast a vote for a Republican actually.

I liked Ford, but not that much.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:39:01pm

Wow, I just took a look at that Mr Hill Twitter feed.

Now my computer needs an acid bath.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:39:08pm

re: #464 Decatur Deb

I liked Ford, but not that much.

The apeanut farmer was better. JErry would be a a nice ugy ot talk to though.

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allegro  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:39:11pm

re: #464 Decatur Deb

I liked Ford, but not that much.

I was young. I learned.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:40:18pm

re: #467 allegro

I was young. I learned.

I was sucked in by the Checkers speech, but I was six.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:40:56pm

re: #459 Decatur Deb

Gerald Ford gets no respect.

I thought it was the right thing to do at the time, but with hindsight I think Ford’s pardon of Nixon was a very serious mistake. That’s one of the few opportunities in the last 50 years for the GOP to clean up its act, and this opportunity was not taken.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:41:01pm

re: #466 HappyWarrior

The apeanut farmer was better. JErry would be a a nice ugy ot talk to though.

My first election was casting a Federal absentee ballot from the Med for the peanut farmer over the B movie actor.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:43:20pm

re: #469 EPR-radar

I thought it was the right thing to do at the time, but with hindsight I think Ford’s pardon of Nixon was a very serious mistake. That’s one of the few opportunities in the last 50 years for the GOP to clean up its act, and this opportunity was not taken.

By the time we were rid of him, the country was pretty exhausted.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:44:22pm

re: #471 Decatur Deb

By the time we were rid of him, the country was pretty exhausted.

True, but the surgeon who stops cutting out the cancer because of fatigue isn’t doing a good job.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:45:49pm

This guy!!

lol

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:45:52pm

re: #465 Anymouse

Wow, I just took a look at that Mr Hill Twitter feed.

Now my computer needs an acid bath.

Were you filled with a desire to subscribe to his journal?

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Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:46:16pm

re: #471 Decatur Deb

By the time we were rid of him, the country was pretty exhausted.

I’d take six years of Nixon over four months of Trump any day of the year. This shitshow has completely burned me out, and there’s no end in sight and no light at the end of the tunnel. Hell, there isn’t even an end to this tunnel.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:47:03pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:47:11pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:47:48pm

re: #475 Skip Intro

I’d take six years of Nixon over four months of Trump any day of the year. This shitshow has completely burned me out, and there’s no end in sight and no light at the end of the tunnel. Hell, there isn’t even an end to this tunnel.

Absolutely. trump is the new normal as far as Republicans are concerned, and he will either run for re-election in 2020 or the GOP will somehow manage to find an even worse candidate for the office.

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allegro  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:49:09pm

re: #472 EPR-radar

True, but the surgeon who stops cutting out the cancer because of fatigue isn’t doing a good job.

Easy to forget the shit had been going on for almost a decade before this. DD is right, the country was exhausted. I don’t know that what might have been accomplished by many more months of spectacle would have been worth it. Nixon was disgraced and that is his legacy. Not like he walked away unpunished.

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teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:51:11pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:51:19pm

re: #479 allegro

Easy to forget the shit had been going on for almost a decade before this. DD is right, the country was exhausted. I don’t know that what might have been accomplished by many more months of spectacle would have been worth it. Nixon was disgraced and that is his legacy. Not like he walked away unpunished.

And the pardon from Ford very well could be what lost Ford the election.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:51:38pm

re: #476 goddamnedfrank

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Gee and then they complain that people protest theri speakers. If you don’t regard your opponets as people, you haev no right to complain if we protest your ases.

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Jay C  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:52:08pm

BTW, anyone have a link to a text of Trump’s message to Iran after the ISIS attack?
I only heard a recap of it on TV, and it sounded basically like “Sorry for your losses, but you deserved it”

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allegro  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:52:11pm

re: #481 wrenchwench

And the pardon from Ford very well could be what lost Ford the election.

Probably was.

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gocart mozart  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:52:16pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:53:45pm
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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:54:31pm

re: #474 EPR-radar

Were you filled with a desire to subscribe to his journal?

Nope. I see no use for Twitter other than to poke around to look for funny stuff, guinea pig pictures, or interesting leads. I have zero desire to put myself on that platform for daily rations of abuse. I’m not sure how Mr. Johnson can put up with it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:54:35pm

re: #483 Jay C

BTW, anyone have a link to a text of Trump’s message to Iran after the ISIS attack?
I only heard a recap of it on TV, and it sounded basically like “Sorry for your losses, but you deserved it”

littlegreenfootballs.com

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:55:28pm

re: #483 Jay C

BTW, anyone have a link to a text of Trump’s message to Iran after the ISIS attack?
I only heard a recap of it on TV, and it sounded basically like “Sorry for your losses, but you deserved it”

See the comment above littlegreenfootballs.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:56:51pm

re: #484 allegro

Probably was.

Well, you know, there’s something to be said for wanting to get rid of the party that put a permanent stain on the Presidency, too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:57:29pm

I mean if you don’t think we’re people. Then stop concern trolling us about “respecting” your free speech.

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piratedan  Jun 7, 2017 • 4:59:51pm

re: #491 HappyWarrior

well, if they don’t think we’re “people” because our politics don’t agree, how long before we can’t vote, buy houses, purchase guns etc… these guys are buying into that Nazi mindset and aren’t even aware of it.

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Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:00:26pm

A Utah woman faces a felony child abuse charge after police say she performed a dental procedure on her seven-year-old son in a Walmart bathroom.

Jeannine Degaston Isom allegedly entered a Walmart location in Cedar Hills, Utah, on Monday with her two sons, according to the Daily Herald. While in the store, she bought hand sanitizer and a pair of needle-nose pliers, the Associated Press reports, citing police records.

Isom then brought the younger child, who is 7, into the store’s bathroom and pulled his two upper front teeth with the pliers, police told ABC 4. She did so without any anesthetic, police say, and when asked why she did so, she told authorities the teeth were infected, per KSL.

The child’s older brother heard him screaming and crying, according to the Daily Herald, and entered the bathroom with a Walmart employee. The older brother took the child out of the store and away from Isom, police records say.

We live in a country of monsters.

sanluisobispo.com

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:00:38pm

You can read just the one tweet and it’s fine but the thread itself is also decent.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:01:10pm

re: #492 piratedan

well, if they don’t think we’re “people” because our politics don’t agree, how long before we can’t vote, buy houses, purchase guns etc… these guys are buying into that Nazi mindset and aren’t even aware of it.

Coulter comes to midn especially. She doesn’t even hide what she is anymore.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:02:41pm

re: #481 wrenchwench

And the pardon from Ford very well could be what lost Ford the election.

Or it may have been Ford’s gaffe during a debate when he claimed that Poland wasn’t under Soviet domination. Of course, Trump could and did say anything in a debate, but in those pre-Fox days the voting public may have wiser.

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teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:03:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:04:23pm

re: #496 Hecuba’s daughter

Or it may have been Ford’s gaffe during a debate when he claimed that Poland wasn’t under Soviet domination. Of course, Trump could and did say anything in a debate, but in those pre-Fox days the voting public may have wiser.

I’d love for someone to do a skit with Fox normalizing Nixon the way they did Bush and Trump.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:07:13pm

re: #498 HappyWarrior

I’d love for someone to do a skit with Fox normalizing Nixon the way they did Bush and Trump.

IMO Reagan, W Bush and trump all had/have worse scandals than Watergate on their records. So Nixon really is kind of normal for the GOP on the personality/criminality stuff (and his policy positions would make him a communist to today’s wingnuts).

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:07:36pm

re: #450 EPR-radar

So Christ Christie had just admitted to being as mobbed up as his fuhrer, trump.

Christie is a one man mob gang.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:09:41pm
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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:09:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:09:53pm

re: #499 EPR-radar

IMO Reagan, W Bush and trump all had/have worse scandals than Watergate on their records. So Nixon really is kind of normal for the GOP on the personality/criminality stuff (and his policy positions would make him a communist to today’s wingnuts).

I agree.

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retired cynic  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:11:40pm

As for something more distracting in a pleasant way, try the NASA photo of the day for today:

apod.nasa.gov

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:14:09pm

heh

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:16:04pm

re: #46 Sir John Barron

Next: Pro-Trump group releases anti-Toobin ad. Says Toobin a “grandstander, showboater.”

Because Trump is not the biggest grandstander and showboater, of course.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:17:19pm

re: #505 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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That might bankrupt them.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:18:33pm

Is there a classroom in the Capitol building in DC where all GOP Congresspeople go to study and learn the talking points all of them seem to stick to so effectively.

Hell, they know their talking points needed to dance around Trump better than their own policies.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:19:19pm

More from Planned Parenthood:

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:23:12pm
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whitebeach  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:23:34pm

re: #493 Skip Intro

A Utah woman faces a felony child abuse charge after police say she performed a dental procedure on her seven-year-old son in a Walmart bathroom.

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We live in a country of monsters.

sanluisobispo.com

OK, I’m gonna catch hell for this, but I’m old enough to remember when it wasn’t at all unusual for parents to pull kids’ teeth when they were loose or sometimes not even very loose but in a bad way of some kind. Some were far from a competent dentist or just couldn’t afford a dentist for every baby tooth, and besides, if you think kids didn’t scream in dentists’ offices in those days, or even in these days, you’re wrong. Christ, over the course of a lifetime I’ve pulled a dozen of my own teeth, some easy, some very tough.

All I’m saying is I don’t know this mom’s reasons, but I’m not ready to call her a monster just yet.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:24:55pm

re: #511 whitebeach

I agree. One has to look at the whole story.

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:26:33pm

re: #511 whitebeach

OK, I’m gonna catch hell for this, but I’m old enough to remember when it wasn’t at all unusual for parents to pull kids’ teeth when they were loose or sometimes not even very loose but in a bad way of some kind. Some were far from a competent dentist or just couldn’t afford a dentist for every baby tooth, and besides, if you think kids didn’t scream in dentists’ offices in those days, or even in these days, you’re wrong. Christ, over the course of a lifetime I’ve pulled a dozen of my own teeth, some easy, some very tough.

All I’m saying is I don’t know this mom’s reasons, but I’m not ready to call her a monster just yet.

I have to agree. When I was a kid, we used string on a door knob. Slam door, tooth out.

The first thing I thought was the kids teeth were hanging loose and needed help coming out.

I didn’t read the story, though, it may be horrible (which is why I didn’t read the story… One horrible kids story for the day was enough for me).

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451_Montag  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:27:15pm

re: #510 Anymouse

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But Walmart? Taking a kid to Walmart is child abuse in itself.
;)

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:28:01pm

re: #512 PhillyPretzel

I agree. One has to look at the whole story.

On the other hand, bloodletting was quite common. It would not be acceptable today.

Just because something was common in the past (pulling your own child’s teeth) does not make it acceptable now.

I never pulled a tooth from my son. When he had dental issues, he went to the dentist.

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:28:27pm

re: #511 whitebeach

OK, I’m gonna catch hell for this, but I’m old enough to remember when it wasn’t at all unusual for parents to pull kids’ teeth when they were loose or sometimes not even very loose but in a bad way of some kind. Some were far from a competent dentist or just couldn’t afford a dentist for every baby tooth, and besides, if you think kids didn’t scream in dentists’ offices in those days, or even in these days, you’re wrong. Christ, over the course of a lifetime I’ve pulled a dozen of my own teeth, some easy, some very tough.

All I’m saying is I don’t know this mom’s reasons, but I’m not ready to call her a monster just yet.

Reading the article, she went beyond the pulling of loose teeth. She pulled the kids front two teeth out in pieces.

Edit: With pliers.

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allegro  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:29:27pm

re: #513 MsJ

I have to agree. When I was a kid, we used string on a door knob. Slam door, tooth out.

The first thing I thought was the kids teeth were hanging loose and needed help coming out.

I didn’t read the story, though, it may be horrible (which is why I didn’t read the story… One horrible kids story for the day was enough for me).

What I found odd was her answer that his teeth were infected. She didn’t say “loose” and ready to come out as I would imagine she would if that had been the case. Gives me the willies to think about.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:29:33pm

re: #510 Anymouse

It’s not that Eric is saying this, it’s that Republicans wholeheartedly believe it.

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Jay C  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:29:50pm

re: #488 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #489 MsJ

Thanks. I was hoping I’d misheard.
No such luck…

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:30:46pm
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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:31:19pm

re: #518 Myron Falwell

It’s not that Eric is saying this, it’s that Republicans wholeheartedly believe it.

They’ve been at this my whole life … I just hope we can keep a lid on the crazy that is Movement Conservatism.

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:32:51pm
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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:33:07pm

re: #494 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You can read just the one tweet and it’s fine but the thread itself is also decent.

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Not just retweets, but votes.

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majii  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:33:31pm

re: #431 BeachDem

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:33:33pm

re: #520 Kragar

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:33:42pm

How would the Utah mother know her child’s teeth were “infected?” Wouldn’t she need a dentist to confirm that?

Child abuse seems the right charge here. Assault and battery would be good too.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:35:23pm

re: #300 Decatur Deb

I am honored to be “selected by the Republican National Committee to represent Voters (sic) in Alabama’s 2nd Congressional District.” My participation is urgently needed in the 2017 Congressional District Census.

(follows a 2 page, 50 question push poll and a fundraising request.)

Hee, hee, hee

I, too was selected to be “selected by the Republican National Committee to represent Voters (sic) in Alabama’s 6th Congressional District.”. I filed my paperwork with the sanitation engineering department.

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:35:44pm
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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:37:03pm

The sun is out here at the moment, but just south of us is a mass of thunderstorms all over the tri-state area. Radar-indicated tornadoes keep popping up around Kimball and just across the line in Wyoming.

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:37:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:37:41pm

re: #520 Kragar

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BEcause the FBI director needs to be asked about his lotaly to the country. Come the fuck on.

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Doug Factors  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:39:03pm
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Myron Falwell  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:39:17pm

re: #521 Anymouse

They’ve been at this my whole life … I just hope we can keep a lid on the crazy that is Movement Conservatism.

We may be reaching past the point of no return.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:39:38pm

re: #511 whitebeach

I think a lot of us gloss over the availability of dental care among low income Americans these days, because the default assumption is that of course it’s available, why wouldn’t it be? (At least that’s my position, but I recognize and own my privilege there, since I’ve never been in a position where it hasn’t been.)

I’m not saying that what she did was right or even needed (still working and skipping the article), but there is the possibility of nuance here that a lot of us may not be familiar with. Dentists aren’t cheap. Oral surgery is even more expensive. (And my dentist didn’t do teeth pulling, you had to go to the oral surgeon for that. Front teeth included. Ask me how I know.)

My heart still goes out to the kid no matter what. I’d prefer to think that she was doing this from a place of desperation and not just assholishness but you never know. Chances do seem good that she’ll face some charges and that’s probably the right answer. I don’t know.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:40:02pm

What might have been but for bigotry, misogamy, purity ponies, &c:

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:40:33pm

re: #533 Myron Falwell

We may be reaching past the point of no return.

The US has had other times with similar movements, and we’ve gotten through them.

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BeachDem  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:41:25pm

.re: #524 majii

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Kragar  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:43:45pm
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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:43:54pm

re: #534 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I recognise my own privilege regarding dental care (it is provided no cost to me by the VA).

As for poor mother and child, I can’t weigh in on that.

Someone mentioned the “string and door knob” method. If the teeth in question were actually loose, that’s all that would have been required.

Going to Wal*Mart and buying a pair of pliers to do that in their bathroom does not seem to indicate “loose teeth” (see also: pliers). And there is no way she could have known teeth were infected without an evaluation by a dentist or physician.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:44:03pm

Chris Hayes just had a guest on his “All in” show, Jill Wine Banks, who pretty much shot down any “I didn’t know having private meetings with the FBI director is wrong because I am an inexperienced politician” defense.

She simply asked if everyone remembers the stink Trump raised about Big Bill Clinton getting on the plane with Loretta Lynch? See video below.

She said that blows his whole excuse because he knew meeting with people in a private setting while they are involved in an investigation is wrong.

And, Trump met directly with Comey 3 times and called him 6 times asking to back off, be loyal, etc., not a one-time meeting with someone not directly associated being investigated as it would have been if Hillary got on the plane with Lynch.

Donald Trump’s Remarks On Bill Clinton And Loretta Lynch Meeting | NBC News

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:44:23pm

re: #538 Kragar

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Trump voters: I’ll take the lying fuck, he’s not a Washington insider!

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Interesting Times  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:45:07pm

Blech. I hate this thread because most of it is true -_-

This is the part that isn’t:

The system most definitely *is* broken (or at least infested with spreading, widening, cracks)

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BeachDem  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:45:36pm

re: #533 Myron Falwell

We may be reaching past the point of no return.

Per Charles P. Pierce (damn, the man has a way with words, doesn’t he?)

The Trump presidency is not an accident of history. Conservative politics has been moving toward something like it ever since Ronald Reagan declared that the national government was the problem. It has been enabled by a consistent trend toward civic disengagement, some of which was encouraged by ambitious men in the wake of Reagan’s success.

And the genuine danger going forward is that the next ambitious American authoritarian will not be a half-bright bungler dancing on strings held by god-knows-which foreign autocrat or banker. The next one might be better at it. After all, the template has been established, and the Republican Party has demonstrated a taste for authoritarianism that history says is hard to shake.

The Trump political template has to be crushed to dust so that it never rises again. Until it is, it remains a cancer on the republic that’s only in the most fragile remission.
esquire.com

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IngisKahn  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:45:58pm

re: #534 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The article is clear. She committed a horrific act.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:46:11pm

re: #541 HappyWarrior

I rather have the DC insider. They understand the system/government better than outsiders.

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caseyjr  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:46:30pm

re: #361 EPR-radar

Everything, up to and including World War III five minutes into the phone call.

Can we get Trudeaubama to handle it instead?

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:46:31pm

That last one is why I love the internet.

(ht to BJ for the first two tweets)

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:46:46pm

re: #398 blueraven

Oh Gag. Charles Krauthammer just said Trump was trying to “seduce” Comey. Then he said, we don’t impeach for attempted seduction.

Really? Think about that for a minute.

Darth Sidious and Anakin Skywalker come to mind here.

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Brian J.  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:47:22pm

re: #377 goddamnedfrank

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Yeah, the Sanders Institue For Politicians Who Can’t Left Wing Good and Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good To does not look promising.

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majii  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:47:32pm

re: #537 BeachDem

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:48:58pm

Well, back to work with me. Clearly more productive.

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Brian J.  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:49:11pm

re: #548 BlueSpotinAL

Darth Sidious and Anakin Skywalker come to mind here.

Chuck, which of the many, many levels on which this claim makes no sense do you want to debate?

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retired cynic  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:49:59pm

Driftglass takes on the endless stream of journalists seeking “real Americans” for commentary:

“You know who gets virtually no ink or pixels or camera time or anything, anywhere? Any of those 66 million American who went to the polls last November and gave Hillary Clinton a clear and resounding popular vote victory. You know, boring old America Democrats. Average Joe Liberals and Jane Progressives, of every color, creed and class, in every state in the union.

To remedy this situation. for an hour each day I sit on my porch right here in the middle of Middle America, whittling, sipping corn likker from my jug, wearing my Toby Keith tee-shirt and watching as vans carrying the New York Times Action Zeitgeist Team and the Washington Post Heartland Rapid Response Squad whiz past looking for Real Murricans to whom they can abjectly apologize, and from whom they have promised their editors they can glean golden ingots of home-spun wisdom about the wilderness out here beyond the Potomac and the Hudson.

I do hope they stop one day, if only to ask directions.

Because I would definitely like to tell them where to go.
driftglass”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:50:02pm

re: #548 BlueSpotinAL

Darth Sidious and Anakin Skywalker come to mind here.

Seduction? Jesus Christ! Part of Nixon’s impeachment was going to be over Haldeman saying we could ask Pat Gray to cool it on the investigation and Nixon saying “uh-huh.”

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Myron Falwell  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:53:01pm

re: #542 Interesting Times

Blech. I hate this thread because most of it is true -_-

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The system most definitely *is* broken (or at least infested with spreading, widening, cracks)

This tweet is, for all intents and purposes, how I expect this to end.

The GOP will tell Trump, “we’ll start the process to impeach, which will be your cue to resign.” And that will happen when their donors tell them to.

Basically the most cynical outcome.

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Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:53:58pm

re: #555 Myron Falwell

It won’t even get to that.

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BeachDem  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:54:43pm

re: #550 majii

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blueraven  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:54:54pm

Imagine this scenario…

Obama holds meeting with several people in Oval, then sends everyone out, even AG Loretta Lynch and Valerie Jarrett.

He asks FBI director Comey to remain. He says to him, Come on now Jim, Hillary is an honorable woman, cant you lay off her? Cant you just let this go?

Any doubt republicans would call for impeachment?

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:56:02pm

That Utah mom is an idiot and needed to be arrested.

At the same time, I wish we could also arrest the greedy tools who make it impossible for poor people to have dental care in this country.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:56:53pm

re: #433 TedStriker

Give it a Viking funeral, Charles.

Or the Thor treatment with Mjolnir.

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BeachDem  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:57:16pm

re: #553 retired cynic

Driftglass takes on the endless stream of journalists seeking “real Americans” for commentary:

“You know who gets virtually no ink or pixels or camera time or anything, anywhere? Any of those 66 million American who went to the polls last November and gave Hillary Clinton a clear and resounding popular vote victory. You know, boring old America Democrats. Average Joe Liberals and Jane Progressives, of every color, creed and class, in every state in the union.

To remedy this situation. for an hour each day I sit on my porch right here in the middle of Middle America, whittling, sipping corn likker from my jug, wearing my Toby Keith tee-shirt and watching as vans carrying the New York Times Action Zeitgeist Team and the Washington Post Heartland Rapid Response Squad whiz past looking for Real Murricans to whom they can abjectly apologize, and from whom they have promised their editors they can glean golden ingots of home-spun wisdom about the wilderness out here beyond the Potomac and the Hudson.

I do hope they stop one day, if only to ask directions.

Because I would definitely like to tell them where to go.
driftglass”

Perfectly stated—driftglass is another one with a genuine way with words.

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CleverToad  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:57:36pm

re: #534 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Individual/retiree dental plan for a 3-person family - about $140/month with annual and lifetime caps on what they’ll cover, and a waiting period of a year or more for several major dental procedures (stuff like crowns, root canals, dentures). As in you have to have paid that $140/month for at least 12 months before they’ll pay out a dime for said procedures.

Cleanings and x-rays for two people — $325 (because the dentist I’ve been going to for 30 years knows we don’t have dental insurance now, and gave us a discount)

Three fillings for my kid last month — $625 (ditto on the discount and a nasty hit to a tight budget)

Dental and vision coverage should be an automatic part of medical insurance IMHO. Tell me again why they’re considered separate considerations?

The Walmart mom is an idiot, because choosing to do the procedure in the Walmart bathroom demonstrates a glaring lack of common sense no matter her reasons. But yeah, I can easily see why a parent could get desperate.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:57:55pm

re: #542 Interesting Times

Blech. I hate this thread because most of it is true -_-

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The system most definitely *is* broken (or at least infested with spreading, widening, cracks)

I’m sorry but Donald Trump asking the freaking HEAD OF THE FBI to commit a criminal act for him (and subsequently firing him for not playing ball) is not just “testing the institutions”. There were bonafide illegal acts that have been committed by this administration, and that is even before any of the efforts to obstruct criminal investigations, commit acts of perjury, or threaten retaliatory acts against those inquiring (and potentially prosecuting) people on the Trump team.

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:58:14pm
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Brian J.  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:59:30pm

re: #563 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I’m sorry but Donald Trump asking the freaking HEAD OF THE FBI to commit a criminal act for him (and subsequently firing him for not playing ball) is not just “testing the institutions”. There were bonafide illegal acts that have been committed by this administration, and that is even before any of the efforts to obstruct criminal investigations, commit acts of perjury, or threaten retaliatory acts against those inquiring (and potentially prosecuting) people on the Trump team.

Why not? Said FBI head already violated FBI rules and arguably committed treason (or at least espionage for an unfriendly power) to install that lump of lard. Were I in Trumpy’s place, I’d have a lot of fun regularly reminding Comey that once you’ve sold your soul, you ain’t never, ever getting it back.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 5:59:42pm

This is an evergreen tweet:

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Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:00:23pm

re: #559 Shiplord Kirel

I see nothing in this story indicating she was too poor to take her kid to a dentist.

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:01:09pm

re: #564 jaunte

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“Because I can’t look you in the voice.” Playing with the language even before the internet.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:01:34pm

re: #562 CleverToad

Dental was not included in my insurance package as a graduate student. My mom got me a coupon for a $50 cleaning and x-ray at a local dentist back home. I went and he was like “you need 11 fillings.”

Went to the one mr. klys used here (since I couldn’t have the work done at home at any rate) and the 11 dropped down to 1 (my first). We’re still monitoring the others (I think one more has gotten filled since then).

My out of pocket cost, as a grad student paying it out of pocket, was close to $300. That was with them giving me all the discounts they could, and also 9 years ago. For one filling.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:04:28pm

re: #554 Blind Frog Belly White

Seduction? Jesus Christ! Part of Nixon’s impeachment was going to be over Haldeman saying we could ask Pat Gray to cool it on the investigation and Nixon saying “uh-huh.”

That was an earlier era, in which the Republicans had a lamentable lack of party discipline compared to what it has now. Some few congressional Rs back then actually thought Nixon being proven a crook was a problem.

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IngisKahn  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:04:34pm

re: #567 Skip Intro

Or even that her child needed to go to a dentist.

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stpaulbear  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:04:49pm

re: #539 Anymouse

I recognise my own privilege regarding dental care (it is provided no cost to me by the VA).

As for poor mother and child, I can’t weigh in on that.

Someone mentioned the “string and door knob” method. If the teeth in question were actually loose, that’s all that would have been required.

Going to Wal*Mart and buying a pair of pliers to do that in their bathroom does not seem to indicate “loose teeth” (see also: pliers). And there is no way she could have known teeth were infected without an evaluation by a dentist or physician.

I didn’t grow up poor, but my dad was self-employed and I imagine that he was paying cash whenever one of us kids had to go to the dentist or doctor. I know that he preferred sending us to doctors who were also his customers.

The dentist we had wasn’t a whole lot kinder than that mom. He never used novocain when he was drilling for fillings. The last time I went to him (in high school, in 1970), he set up all the formwork to install a filling and it was pinching the hell out of my gums, and I would twitch reflexively when it hurt. He started getting mad at me for twitching, and eventually threw his tools on the floor and yelled at me about it. If I could have fled the room, I would have. I think that may have been the last time anyone in my family saw that dentist, and I would have liked to know what my dad said to him if he called him. My dad didn’t like to screw with his work customers.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:05:57pm

re: #558 blueraven

Imagine this scenario…

Obama holds meeting with several people in Oval, then sends everyone out, even AG Loretta Lynch and Valerie Jarrett.

He asks FBI director Comey to remain. He says to him, Come on now Jim, Hillary is an honorable woman, cant you lay off her? Cant you just let this go?

Any doubt republicans would call for impeachment?

I doubt this. Republicans wouldn’t bother calling for impeachment in this fact pattern. They would go straight to Civil War II.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:06:41pm

With the 50th anniversary of the Six Day War (currently in Day 3) I thought it might be a good time to link this page from 2010:
The Truth about Area 51: Project Have Doughnut and the Israeli connection.

The enormous haul of Soviet bloc equipment from the 6 Day War was probably the greatest technical intelligence coup since World War 2. Much of the gear, tanks for instance, was familiar in the west, but there were some real bonanzas as well. A complete SA2 surface-to-air missile battery was captured intact, for example. This was at a time when the SA2 was in heavy use against American aircraft in Vietnam. Another surprise was the Soviets’ best field artillery piece, the S-23. This had been seen in Red Square parades, but western analysts did not know even its true caliber (180 mm) until the Israelis came up with captured specimens and a large stock of ammunition. Russian anti-tank missiles and surveillance radar were also part of the loot.
Israel’s willingness to share this with the US was one reason for the lifting of the embargo and the eventual decision to provide outright military aid.

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Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:06:44pm

re: #571 IngisKahn

Or even that her child needed to go to a dentist.

The most surprising thing about this story to me is that she paid for the pliers.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:06:54pm

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That argument would never fly from a Democratic President.

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retired cynic  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:07:00pm

re: #569 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I went day before yesterday, for a 6 month X-ray and cleaning. $175. Boondocks of west central Illinois.

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Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:08:14pm

re: #577 retired cynic

I went day before yesterday, for a 6 month X-ray and cleaning. $175. Boondocks of west central Illinois.

I recently had my dog’s teeth cleaned. $500.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:08:31pm

re: #577 retired cynic

I went day before yesterday, for a 6 month X-ray and cleaning. $175. Boondocks of west central Illinois.

I very nearly had a crown done earlier this year. Was in the chair to start the procedure and the dentist couldn’t find the fracture she’d thought she’d seen in the tooth when I was in three weeks before. Since the pain had also gone away, she opted not to do the crown.

I very gratefully paid the office fee for that visit as it was still cheaper than it would have been otherwise. And that’s with insurance.

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piratedan  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:08:33pm

re: #558 blueraven

no doubt whatsoever, especially after 11 hours of Benghazi. It would be their “certified” smoking gun of collusion…

In this case, we have the pungent whiffs of treason in the air and we get crickets on this account but the actions by McConnell are the real tell imho. We have a healthcare bill that has been absolutely excoriated by all of the major health care players, showing it provides less coverage at higher costs with the only people making out on the process are the tax break beneficiaries and the CEO’s who get a happy return to the “hookers and blow” era of healthcare. Everyone else.. the anticipated results are “die quickly”, you’ll thank us for it. This shitburger is being fast tracked because they’ll never be a “better opportunity” to fuck over Medicare and remove the signature legacy of 44. You know Mitch is up for that… sure, we may pay a penalty for that down the road, but that will show that uppity n***** what’s what… or words/actions to that effect. They have to act quickly imho because they know what’s coming down the pike even if they can try and steer and control the train…

We’re looking at wrath of god political repercussions here because its looking like they got caught with not only their hand in the till in regards to money laundering ad illegal campaign finance shananigans, but put their shoes on the scales when it comes to voter suppression. We haven’t even gotten to the RICO and treason shit yet. My guess is, that a good many of them are implicated/guilty because their actions are those of felons who know that the noose is tightening and I suspect a goodly number of Donnie crew are either going to jail or will be turning state’s evidence and perhaps both. Turtle will brazen it out like he always has because he’s been able to use the press as his own personal instrument, it will be interesting to see if he can play the same performance with Mueller.

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retired cynic  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:09:28pm

Another Nancy LeTourneau, looking at the question of how to get to “public option” and suggesting we watch Nevada try using Medicaid for all, rather than Medicare for all.

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retired cynic  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:10:02pm

re: #578 Skip Intro

I recently had my dog’s teeth cleaned. $500.

Aaaaaaaah! My dog is going to have to chew milk bone!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:10:46pm

re: #582 retired cynic

Aaaaaaaah! My dog is going to have to chew milk bone!

Sedation isn’t cheap.

Not for humans either, but most of us don’t have to be put under for a teeth cleaning.

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retired cynic  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:12:31pm

re: #583 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Sedation isn’t cheap.

Not for humans either, but most of us don’t have to be put under for a teeth cleaning.

You should see what it takes for an equine dentist.

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gocart mozart  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:14:15pm
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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:15:26pm

re: #577 retired cynic

I went day before yesterday, for a 6 month X-ray and cleaning. $175. Boondocks of west central Illinois.

My wife will be going next week to the dentist for a teeth cleaning. They charge about $75.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:16:09pm

re: #543 BeachDem

Per Charles P. Pierce (damn, the man has a way with words, doesn’t he?)

The Trump presidency is not an accident of history. Conservative politics has been moving toward something like it ever since Ronald Reagan declared that the national government was the problem. It has been enabled by a consistent trend toward civic disengagement, some of which was encouraged by ambitious men in the wake of Reagan’s success.

And the genuine danger going forward is that the next ambitious American authoritarian will not be a half-bright bungler dancing on strings held by god-knows-which foreign autocrat or banker. The next one might be better at it. After all, the template has been established, and the Republican Party has demonstrated a taste for authoritarianism that history says is hard to shake.

The Trump political template has to be crushed to dust so that it never rises again. Until it is, it remains a cancer on the republic that’s only in the most fragile remission.
esquire.com

Pierce is so right. Trump has set the bar so low that the next devious Republican President knows he can get away with load of unethical, illegal behavior. And the next Republican President won’t be as incompetent and dumb as Trump.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:17:24pm

re: #584 retired cynic

You should see what it takes for an equine dentist.

This is only vaguely related but I have a friend who is a vet and in the course of doing her large animal rotation, ended up with a dislocated shoulder.

The cow moved at the wrong time.

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Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:18:05pm

re: #587 Patricia Kayden

I don’t think Jr. or Eric are all that smart.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:18:10pm

re: #578 Skip Intro

I recently had my dog’s teeth cleaned. $500.

Why don’t you sign up with Banfield? They provide pretty reasonable healthcare coverage which includes dental.

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Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:22:27pm

re: #590 Patricia Kayden

Never heard of them.

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freetoken  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:23:36pm

re: #587 Patricia Kayden

Perhaps Pierce is correct, but I am still believing that our (you, me, and most of here) expectations for a President are being shaped by FDR, and our expectations for what is a government too is being shaped by his vision.

That is, we believe that the increase in our population, and the increase in our technological and social tools, should bring about a society where there is a universal benefit of all the intangible and tangible wealth that exists.

But this is sort of an anomaly in the big picture. The human past is about hierarchy, about one person, family, or tribe being ascendant over the others.

The turn of the GOP towards atavism has been a long time coming, but it anything but novel.

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No Depression  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:25:07pm

re: #587 Patricia Kayden

Pierce is so right. Trump has set the bar so low that the next devious Republican President knows he can get away with load of unethical, illegal behavior. And the next Republican President won’t be as incompetent and dumb as Trump.

To be honest, it kind of feels inevitable that the U.S. will descend into autocracy, barring some sea change in the political environment. If Trump somehow doesn’t kill democracy, the next scumbag Republicans put in the White House very well will.

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retired cynic  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:25:46pm

re: #585 gocart mozart

“Full Mental Jackass” from the comments: LOL

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Myron Falwell  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:26:11pm

re: #589 Skip Intro

I don’t think Jr. or Eric are all that smart.

Ted Cruz is slimy and shitty enough that he could carry the authoritarian mantle.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:27:41pm

re: #574 Shiplord Kirel

With the 50th anniversary of the Six Day War (currently in Day 3) I thought it might be a good time to link this page from 2010:
The Truth about Area 51: Project Have Doughnut and the Israeli connection.

I knew a Czech immigrant who had been a supervisor at an arms factory at the time of the Six Day War. He said it was a huge shock in the Soviet bloc, since they had been assured that their Arab clients could at least hold their own against the evil Zionists. He was especially shocked by a clip of Israeli soldiers posing proudly with a captured 85mm recoilless rifle that he recognized as one of his own products. He escaped to the west in 1980 and has lived here ever since.
He said that the Soviets and their Czech toadies had privately blamed “stupid Arabs” for the 1967 disaster, while the Arabs blamed Soviet racism and bungling, as well as Nasser’s runaway cronyism and corruption. The latter had put the incompetent Field Marshal Abdel Hakim Amer in command of Egyptian forces. This was the fool who assured Nasser and Sadat on the second day of the war that his forces were advancing into Israel against crumbling resistance. In fact, his troops had already been defeated and were fleeing in disarray toward the Suez Canal. Amer was arrested after the war and died, supposedly by suicide, while awaiting trial.

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MsJ  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:27:51pm

re: #583 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Sedation isn’t cheap.

Not for humans either, but most of us don’t have to be put under for a teeth cleaning.

I do. I can do basic stuff without sedation but not root canals or other really painful stuff.

I went to the dentist yesterday. With insurance it was $200 bucks for a cleaning and two small filings (extra doses of novacaine because it doesn’t work well for me). No sedation.

Had I known I’d have done sedation. My mouth, noise and eye socket were numb (they have to use so much on me by the time it worked half my face was numb) and I hurt for hours afterward.

I hate dentists. I’m not sure which is worse, them or the GYN.

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Anymouse  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:27:53pm

re: #585 gocart mozart

Exit polling indicated that active duty personnel voted for Hillary Clinton in larger numbers than Donald Trump. Veterans were the reverse (but there are many more veterans than active duty).

I got plenty of side-eye here being a vet plumping for Sanders, then Clinton. Vets around here insisted Trump would be better for vets. I did make a number of arguments that the fellow in that tweet made (particularly the one about STDs being his personal Vietnam) and one he didn’t (he and one of his campaign managers attacking Gold Star Families).

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retired cynic  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:29:04pm

re: #594 retired cynic

“Full Mental Jackass” from the comments: LOL

Gee, I should look at the image I am commenting about. Sorry!

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caseyjr  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:31:27pm

re: #568 Belafon

“Because I can’t look you in the voice.” Playing with the language even before the internet.

Well, it was Dorothy “What fresh hell is this” Parker, after all.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:37:46pm

re: #511 whitebeach

OK, I’m gonna catch hell for this, but I’m old enough to remember when it wasn’t at all unusual for parents to pull kids’ teeth when they were loose or sometimes not even very loose but in a bad way of some kind. Some were far from a competent dentist or just couldn’t afford a dentist for every baby tooth, and besides, if you think kids didn’t scream in dentists’ offices in those days, or even in these days, you’re wrong. Christ, over the course of a lifetime I’ve pulled a dozen of my own teeth, some easy, some very tough.

All I’m saying is I don’t know this mom’s reasons, but I’m not ready to call her a monster just yet.

Tooth==string==doorknob==ice cream.

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scottslemmons  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:48:05pm

re: #543 BeachDem

Per Charles P. Pierce (damn, the man has a way with words, doesn’t he?)

The Trump presidency is not an accident of history. Conservative politics has been moving toward something like it ever since Ronald Reagan declared that the national government was the problem. It has been enabled by a consistent trend toward civic disengagement, some of which was encouraged by ambitious men in the wake of Reagan’s success.

And the genuine danger going forward is that the next ambitious American authoritarian will not be a half-bright bungler dancing on strings held by god-knows-which foreign autocrat or banker. The next one might be better at it. After all, the template has been established, and the Republican Party has demonstrated a taste for authoritarianism that history says is hard to shake.

The Trump political template has to be crushed to dust so that it never rises again. Until it is, it remains a cancer on the republic that’s only in the most fragile remission.
esquire.com

The problem being — no one has any clue how to crush it to dust.

So I guess, get used to the idea of you, your friends, and your family dying in the camps.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2017 • 6:49:13pm

re: #577 retired cynic

I went day before yesterday, for a 6 month X-ray and cleaning. $175. Boondocks of west central Illinois.

Anywhere near Adams County?


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