Fierce! Joe Bonamassa & Tina Guo: “Woke Up Dreaming” - Live From Carnegie Hall

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324 comments

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teleskiguy  Jun 11, 2017 • 10:26:23pm

This is awesome! Fierce is the correct adjective. Racing is, too.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 11, 2017 • 10:34:31pm

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Targetpractice  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:17:04am
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teleskiguy  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:20:20am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:24:50am

Reposted from downstairs:

I guess in the future Delta will only support the production of Thomas Bowdler’s edits of Shakespeare.

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Kragar  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:16:12am

The suit will allege that foreign payments to the president’s businesses violate an anti-corruption clause of the Constitution.

It would be the first suit if its kind brought by a government entity, the Post added.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:34:27am

re: #7 Kragar

Maryland, DC attorneys general will file lawsuit against Trump

Time to fire Maryland.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:09:35am

re: #8 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Time to fire Maryland.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the GOP Congress passed a bill to prohibit the DC Attorney General from doing that.

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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:10:11am

Count your ducklings to help you sleep:

1,000+ Ducklings Barn Floor Live Night Stream

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:43:14am

Shariah law protesters, some toting rifles, gather in front of North Texas Islamic center

RICHARDSON — Hundreds gathered around the Islamic Association of North Texas in Richardson on Saturday to protest Islamic law, which they fear is a growing threat to American values and the U.S. Constitution.
The rally was peaceful, although several protesters were armed with rifles — even as children filed into the mosque.
“Schoolchildren were coming to weekend school facing grown men in army fatigues with automatic assault rifles,” said Khalid Y. Hamideh, a lawyer and spokesman for the Islamic Association of North Texas.
Similar protests organized by the lobbyist group ACT for America took place in cities around the country, including Austin and Houston, as a nationwide “March Against Sharia.”

A friend who was there says there were no more than 30-35 wackos and a much larger number of counter-demonstrators. The photos show little beyond Meal Team Six, a few escaped Confederate bushwhackers, and some groupies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:58:14am

re: #11 Shiplord Kirel

Shariah law protesters, some toting rifles, gather in front of North Texas Islamic center

A friend who was there says there were no more than 30-35 wackos and a much larger number of counter-demonstrators. The photos show little beyond Meal Team Six, a few escaped Confederate bushwhackers, and some groupies.

These crackers are feeling very emboldened under the current administration and will keep doing things like this until they provoke an incident…

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:07:55am

from my fb

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:08:22am

re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

These crackers are feeling very emboldened under the current administration and will keep doing things like this until they provoke an incident…

I swear, these people must enjoy living in constant fear of something. They like it so much, they have to invent reasons to be afraid. They should be more worried about the evangelical rightwingers imposing a theocracy (no booze, no dancing, no porn, no unsupervised dating, etc.) than 1.7% of the US population imposing shariah.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:09:32am

re: #13 Birth Control Works

I might consider buying Smirnoff’s now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:11:09am

re: #14 wheat-dogg

I swear, these people must enjoy living in constant fear of something. They like it so much, they have to invent reasons to be afraid. They should be more worried about the evangelical rightwingers imposing a theocracy (no booze, no dancing, no porn, no unsupervised dating, etc.) than 1.7% of the US population imposing shariah.

shariah = public beheadings

that is the image that drives these idiots

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:14:37am

Stop Making Excuses for Hateful White Men

Jeremy Joseph Christian, arrested in the Portland train stabbing deaths, was a “known right wing extremist and white supremacist,” according to a local newspaper. Motivation seemed clear enough, but then this happened: A Portland police spokesperson was quoted as saying, “We don’t know if he’s got mental health issues.”

Why would he say that?

Why is mental illness the go-to line for white men who commit acts of terrorism against people of color? Why is it an easier excuse than plain hatred and vicious racism?

Most people with mental illness are not violent, and only 3-5 percent of violent acts can be attributed to individuals living with serious mental illness, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. In fact, people with severe mental illnesses are more than 10 times more likely to be victims of violent crime than the general population.

The label “mental illness” when referred to white men who’ve committed bigoted violence is a dangerous cover-up. It downplays the contribution of racism.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:18:22am

I hope there is duck for breakfast.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:23:27am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:44:40am

Bharara says Trump phone calls made him uncomfortable

In his first sit-down interview since his March removal, Bharara said he reported one of the phone calls to the chief of staff for Attorney General Jeff Sessions because it made him uneasy. He said he was dismissed from the important prosecutor’s job in Manhattan only 22 hours after he finally refused to take a call from the president.

The recollections add a new dimension to the intensifying debate over Trump’s firing of former FBI director James B. Comey, who was removed from his job after private conversations with Trump that he viewed as inappropriate. Comey testified before Congress last week that Trump told him he hoped the FBI would drop an investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn. Trump has said Comey’s version of events is untrue.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:47:20am

VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY

probity (n.)
early 15c., from Middle French probité, from Latin probitatem (nominative probitas) “uprightness, honesty,” from probus “worthy, good” (see prove).

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:52:35am

re: #22 Birth Control Works

VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY

IOW, everything Trump is not.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:52:41am

re: #22 Birth Control Works

VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY

probity (n.)
early 15c., from Middle French probité, from Latin probitatem (nominative probitas) “uprightness, honesty,” from probus “worthy, good” (see prove).

And on the flipside, we have from Middle Earth Priebus, derived from prebus meaning “unworthy, bad, lacking in character, dishonest, spends time looking for namesake Precious”.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:56:48am

re: #15 wheat-dogg

I might consider buying Smirnoff’s now.

Didn’t the owner of Smirnoff have a bunch of his shit stolen by Putin and his goons?

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:57:42am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:58:03am

re: #21 Birth Control Works

Trump has said Comey’s version of events is untrue.

Except for the parts which “totally vindicate” him.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:59:07am

Y’all know what to do….

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:00:47am

re: #13 Birth Control Works

I was more of a whiskey on the rocks kinda guy.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:01:13am

some people just win the Genetic Lottery

Vanessa James / Morgan Cipres FS 2017 World Team Trophy. Tokyo

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:02:07am

re: #29 Shropshire Slasher

I was more of a whiskey on the rocks kinda guy.

not Canadian Rye?

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:04:43am

re: #25 Timothy Watson

Didn’t the owner of Smirnoff have a bunch of his shit stolen by Putin and his goons?

Not sure about that, but the tsar nationalized the Smirnov distillery back when, and the family skedaddled in the wake of the 1917 revolution.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:09:21am

re: #30 Birth Control Works

Jesus that was beautiful. I am sitting here crying at work wishing my ma could have seen that. She loved ice skating and I have fond memories of helping her with Saturday’s dinner of hamburgers and beans and watching ice skating as a kid.

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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:09:46am

re: #30 Birth Control Works

And dedicating their lives to practicing. All good dancers I have known have practiced for thousands upon thousands of hours.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:12:52am

re: #30 Birth Control Works

some people just win the Genetic Lottery

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Video

Genetics and hours and hours of practice.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:13:29am

This is a serious editorial headline in Virginia’s newspaper of record:

Editorial: Gay bashing disqualifies Republican from high office

Uh…wouldn’t this disqualify 99.9% of every Republican who ran for office? Yet that same paper constantly endorses Republicans?

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:13:50am

re: #35 wheat-dogg

BTW, did I mention that I really like Distilled’s cover of The Sounds of Silence?

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:20:53am

Canada sees the writing on the wall. France is asking US scientists to go there. Canada wants the IT folks.

Making America Great Again by killing off its brain trust. Awesome.

I am fully expecting Vancouver to become the Silicone Valley of the north shortly…with every tech company having an office there so they don’t lose their employees.

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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:25:37am

re: #38 MsJ

I am fully expecting Vancouver to become the Silicone Valley of the north shortly…

Many of Hollywood’s best are moving there.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:29:38am

re: #39 freetoken

Many of Hollywood’s best are moving there.

In pairs, usually.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:30:25am

re: #39 freetoken

If Canada was smart, they would build a tech park in the southern most part of BC, right across the border from Blaine, WA. Then get the tech companies to come in and build infrastructure for employees, houses that they would sell for less than going rate (it is very expensive in Vancouver), which would then bring local businesses into these newly created towns. That would alleviate stress on the very expensive Vancouver and create new areas of commerce. Then bring in additional companies so that it wouldn’t be reliant on one industry…science, universities, etc.

Can you imagine how many people who work for Google, et al, who are not lily white and are afraid of what is happening across America. I can and I am lily white.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:44:04am

re: #41 MsJ

I’m not all that keen on being in the States this summer, but as my entire family lives there, I will take my chances.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:44:34am

re: #38 MsJ

Canada sees the writing on the wall. France is asking US scientists to go there. Canada wants the IT folks.

Making America Great Again by killing off its brain trust. Awesome.

I am fully expecting Vancouver to become the Silicone Valley of the north shortly…with every tech company having an office there so they don’t lose their employees.

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Brain Drain — USA isn’t used to seeing people exiting the US.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:45:06am

re: #39 freetoken

Many of Hollywood’s best are moving there.

I would if I could.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:46:15am

re: #43 Birth Control Works

Brain Drain — USA isn’t used to seeing people exiting the US.

Hey, it’s not like it hurt Germany going into World War II or anything.

///

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:46:26am

re: #35 wheat-dogg

Genetics and hours and hours of practice.

It’s so depressing to know that no matter how hard I work, I’ll never be strong enough to do that. Genetic Collagen Disorders suck.

At least I know now, why I wasn’t athletic as a kid. Kids that can’t make it in sports have all kinds of issues of self-doubt.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:47:29am

It’s so frustrating to see the rise of American Christian Imam’s while their followers point to the M. E. “Women over there can’t even drive.”

gah

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:48:54am

re: #42 wheat-dogg

I’m not all that keen on being in the States this summer, but as my entire family lives there, I will take my chances.

While I live in Canada, I am in a border town and I am uncomfortable every time I go to the US. And I am an old white lady. The whole country is crazy. Guns everywhere, hatred for virtually everything driven from the top down.

It pains me to watch my homeland turn to shit before my very eyes. It pains me more that there is literally nothing I can do to stop it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:50:56am

re: #46 Birth Control Works

It’s so depressing to know that no matter how hard I work, I’ll never be strong enough to do that. Genetic Collagen Disorders suck.

At least I know now, why I wasn’t athletic as a kid. Kids that can’t make it in sports have all kinds of issues of self-doubt.

Growing up in Western PA where Football is the state religion isn’t easy if a boy isn’t interested in making the team. But I didn’t care because I was always more interested in Chess, Bridge and Go. Yes the Football coach constantly decided to insult me in school but I got even with him when I partnered with his wife in bridge tournaments and actually won a couple. Meanwhile he had a constant battle with the School Board because he couldn’t generate a winning team…

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:54:42am

Meeting time. BBL.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:56:16am

re: #46 Birth Control Works

It’s so depressing to know that no matter how hard I work, I’ll never be strong enough to do that. Genetic Collagen Disorders suck.

At least I know now, why I wasn’t athletic as a kid. Kids that can’t make it in sports have all kinds of issues of self-doubt.

I sucked at PE in school, but enjoyed football (aka soccer) and volleyball outside of PE class. PE was traumatizing in some ways. Did no sports in college. Cross-country skiing when I lived in snow country. Then at age 30 I signed up for TaeKwanDo with my ex and our two older boys. To my surprise (I mean, really — surprise) I was good enough to earn a yellow belt. Me, a kid who couldn’t hit or catch a baseball for his life, and who could barely do two pull-ups.

I didn’t stay with it, for financial reasons (daughter was 6 months old, and Master Kim wanted more money for continuing lessons). I really should have kept with it. I’d be in better shape now.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:01:19am

re: #51 wheat-dogg

I sucked at PE in school, but enjoyed football (aka soccer) and volleyball outside of PE class. PE was traumatizing in some ways. Did no sports in college. Cross-country skiing when I lived in snow country. Then at age 30 I signed up for TaeKwanDo with my ex and our two older boys. To my surprise (I mean, really — surprise) I was good enough to earn a yellow belt. Me, a kid who couldn’t hit or catch a baseball for his life, and who could barely do two pull-ups.

I didn’t stay with it, for financial reasons (daughter was 6 months old, and Master Kim wanted more money for continuing lessons). I really should have kept with it. I’d be in better shape now.

I think every kid should do martial arts —the repetition that involves mind and body are SO GOOD for developing brains and bodies.

Yoga and Dance are like that as well.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:03:49am

re: #33 Shropshire Slasher

Jesus that was beautiful. I am sitting here crying at work wishing my ma could have seen that. She loved ice skating and I have fond memories of helping her with Saturday’s dinner of hamburgers and beans and watching ice skating as a kid.

They are definitely well paired.

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nowherenorth2  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:04:08am

Did you guys ever wonder if this is all some elaborate plan by the too tobuse the orange one for state rights?

Hear me out: the gop has always had a authoritarian way about them. But have always said more state right limit federal government.

By putting the might cheeto in the office there can finally make things seem terrible because the guy is messing up on the federal level, causing states to make choices of their own (look at the Paris accord and the recent governor announcements)

The cheeto may think he is smart but of course he isn’t, but McConnell and Ryan are both shrewd and crafty terrible people. So…maybe?

Also if course no outrage over Obama because racism.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:07:55am

re: #54 nowherenorth2

Did you guys ever wonder if this is all some elaborate plan by the too tobuse the orange one for state rights?

Hear me out: the gop has always had a authoritarian way about them. But have always said more state right limit federal government.

By putting the might cheeto in the office there can finally make things seem terrible because the guy is messing up on the federal level, causing states to make choices of their own (look at the Paris accord and the recent governor announcements)

The cheeto may think he is smart but of course he isn’t, but McConnell and Ryan are both shrewd and crafty terrible people. So…maybe?

Also if course no outrage over Obama because racism.

Confederation of States is the goal for many.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:08:47am

re: #52 Birth Control Works

I think every kid should do martial arts —the repetition that involves mind and body are SO GOOD for developing brains and bodies.

Yoga and Dance are like that as well.

There are programs that teach disadvantaged kids martial arts, with the side effects of the kids controlling their behavior in school and doing better at academics.

Nutjobs freak out about yoga in schools, because Hinduism = Satan, but yoga would have similar effects.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:09:41am

re: #55 Birth Control Works

Confederation of States is the goal for many.

That didn’t work out well the last two times it was tried.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:10:50am

re: #56 wheat-dogg

Hey now, it’s the naked yoga I freak out about.

//

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:11:03am

re: #40 wheat-dogg

In pairs, usually.

The Cleavage district….

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:11:29am

re: #57 wheat-dogg

That didn’t work out well the last two times it was tried.

The culmination is the destruction of the Federal Reserve. Whackos have all kinds of issues with it.

Grifters would love to be able to print their own money.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:13:03am

I have to go back to bed. got up too early.

bbl

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darthstar  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:17:44am
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Lupin  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:18:31am

French internet platform just launched to attract climate scientists etc.

makeourplanetgreatagain.fr

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:18:34am

re: #43 Birth Control Works

Brain Drain — USA isn’t used to seeing people exiting the US.

If we put anti-science, anti-education people in key administrative posts, that will be a natural consequence.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:24:26am

re: #60 Birth Control Works

The culmination is the destruction of the Federal Reserve. Whackos have all kinds of issues with it.

Grifters would love to be able to print their own money.

I poke around the “hard currency” YouTube channels sometimes — gold and silver bugs hate the Fed, libertarians hate the Fed, nutjobs believe the Fed to be part of the “globalist” financial conspiracy, the list goes on.

They don’t understand that a national reserve bank is there to prevent huge swings in the economy. It tempers the effects of booms and busts in the national economy, which will no happen no matter what investors believe.

Theoretically, anyway. The Fed fucked up the economy leading to the 2008 recession by permitting banks to go hog-wild with derivatives based on sub-prime mortgages. The Fed is not a perfect solution, but I shudder to imagine how the US economy would swing if complete laissez faire economics were to take over.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:26:58am

re: #65 wheat-dogg

Theoretically, anyway. The Fed fucked up the economy leading to the 2008 recession by permitting banks to go hog-wild with derivatives based on sub-prime mortgages. The Fed is not a perfect solution, but I shudder to imagine how the US economy would swing if complete laissez faire economics were to take over.

Those banks would have collapsed, millions would have been left without savings, jobs or homes.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:27:28am

re: #65 wheat-dogg

Theoretically, anyway. The Fed fucked up the economy leading to the 2008 recession by permitting banks to go hog-wild with derivatives based on sub-prime mortgages. The Fed is not a perfect solution, but I shudder to imagine how the US economy would swing if complete laissez faire economics were to take over.

The Panic of 1837 gives us an example:

Within the United States, there were several contributing factors. In July 1832, President Andrew Jackson vetoed the bill to recharter the Second Bank of the United States (BUS), the nation’s central bank and fiscal agent. As the BUS wound up its operations in the next four years, state-chartered banks in the West and South relaxed their lending standards, maintaining unsafe reserve ratios.[2] Two domestic policies, in particular, exacerbated an already volatile situation. The Specie Circular of 1836 mandated that western lands could be purchased only with gold and silver coin. The circular was an executive order issued by Andrew Jackson, and favored by Senator Thomas Hart Benton of Missouri and other hard-money advocates. The intent was to curb speculation in public lands, but the circular set off a real estate and commodity price crash as most buyers were unable to come up with sufficient hard money or “specie” (gold or silver coins) to pay for the land. Secondly, the Deposit and Distribution Act of 1836 placed federal revenues in various local banks (derisively termed “pet banks”) across the country. Many of these banks were located in western regions. The effect of these two policies was to transfer specie away from the nation’s main commercial centers on the East Coast. With lower monetary reserves in their vaults, major banks and financial institutions on the East Coast had to scale back their loans, which was a major cause of the panic along with the real estate crash.[9]

en.wikipedia.org

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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:35:00am

re: #65 wheat-dogg

They don’t understand …

They don’t want to understand. They are in a fantasy, to escape the reality of 2017, where 7.5 billion people have to cooperate and we do that by trans-continental division of labor and automated industry and agriculture, where money is not a material thing but a means to enable demand to be quantified and monitored.

I’m so tired of these 18th century escapees.

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ipsos  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:41:53am

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darthstar  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:43:29am

So Fox is going all OUTRAGE over Shakespeare in the park now? Modern day costumed rendition of Julius Caesar.

Wait until they learn about the plot of King Lear.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:45:08am

re: #70 darthstar

So Fox is going all OUTRAGE over Shakespeare in the park now? Modern day costumed rendition of Julius Caesar.

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Wait until they learn about the plot of King Lear.

Fox News: Not concerned about collusion with Russia or obstruction with justice but outraged over this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:46:12am

re: #70 darthstar

So Fox is going all OUTRAGE over Shakespeare in the park now? Modern day costumed rendition of Julius Caesar.

The Fox folks know what is going on, but they make their living on never failing to underestimate the stupidity and gullibility of their viewership…

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:48:26am

re: #30 Birth Control Works

some people just win the Genetic Lottery

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I got goosies watching that performance. The emotion came right through the screen.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:49:07am

re: #68 freetoken

They don’t want to understand. They are in a fantasy, to escape the reality of 2017, where 7.5 billion people have to cooperate and we do that by trans-continental division of labor and automated industry and agriculture, where money is not a material thing but a means to enable demand to be quantified and monitored.

I’m so tired of these 18th century escapees.

Money nowadays is largely bits in computer storage units being shuffled around on the Internet. Bitcoin and its derivatives are just a newer version of it.

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lizardofid  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:53:17am

Edit, to remove

going for coffee.

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:54:17am

re: #68 freetoken

They don’t want to understand. They are in a fantasy, to escape the reality of 2017, where 7.5 billion people have to cooperate and we do that by trans-continental division of labor and automated industry and agriculture, where money is not a material thing but a means to enable demand to be quantified and monitored.

I’m so tired of these 18th century escapees.

That’s all money should be. Instead, too many have decided it’s a measure of status.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:58:08am

re: #76 Belafon

That’s all money should be. Instead, too many have decided it’s a measure of status your worth as a human being.

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:59:14am

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. I’ve been indisposed for the better part of the past 10 days, taking the time to recharge the batteries and had limited internet access (which is a good thing sometimes).

So of course I come back to the same old same old idiocies spewed by the usual suspects.

Seriously? What kind of adversity has Ivanka ever faced? She relies on daddy’s wealth to start a business that relies on foreign workers to make her clothing line. She works in her daddy’s construction business, just like her brothers. They haven’t faced adversity ever.

They wouldn’t know what adversity is if it dropped on them like a bag of hammers.

But daddy knows viciousness. It’s all he does. He’s a bully and her brothers have learned the same tactic because they see it work. When you’ve inherited your fortune, everything comes easy and you think everyone will just bend to their will.

The rule of law isn’t like that.

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:01:45am

re: #78 lawhawk

Her daddy doesn’t have a construction business, he has a branding business which all the trump parasites live off of while not actually having to work.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:02:36am

re: #68 freetoken

They don’t want to understand. They are in a fantasy, to escape the reality of 2017, where 7.5 billion people have to cooperate and we do that by trans-continental division of labor and automated industry and agriculture, where money is not a material thing but a means to enable demand to be quantified and monitored.

I’m so tired of these 18th century escapees.

It’s the same debate that Jefferson and Hamilton had back then. Jefferson had this idealistic notion of the self-sufficient gentleman farmer being the typical American, while Hamilton had the more realistic idea that urban financial and commercial centers and economic interdependence were the future of the nation.

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DanielKi  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:05:19am

re: #74 wheat-dogg

Money nowadays is largely bits in computer storage units being shuffled around on the Internet. Bitcoin and its derivatives are just a newer version of it.

Uhm, no. That’s confusing the technicalities of bookkeeping with how a currency’s unit worth is established.

Bitcoin is popular among goldbugs and libertarians because it is an attempt to establish a currency with an intrinsic value not controlled by a central bank, much like the gold standard. Except that it’s tied to computational power (at least in its current phase). There is a reason they call it “bitcoin mining”.

At some point there will be no more bitcoins to be mined and inflation will stop completely. What’s worse, since in the Bitcoin system wallets can be lost forever, it has essentially built-in deflation.

So far from being just another exchange mechanism, it is actually a political project.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:05:54am

re: #78 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. I’ve been indisposed for the better part of the past 10 days, taking the time to recharge the batteries and had limited internet access (which is a good thing sometimes).

So of course I come back to the same old same old idiocies spewed by the usual suspects.

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Seriously? What kind of adversity has Ivanka ever faced? She relies on daddy’s wealth to start a business that relies on foreign workers to make her clothing line. She works in her daddy’s construction business, just like her brothers. They haven’t faced adversity ever.

They wouldn’t know what adversity is if it dropped on them like a bag of hammers.

But daddy knows viciousness. It’s all he does. He’s a bully and her brothers have learned the same tactic because they see it work. When you’ve inherited your fortune, everything comes easy and you think everyone will just bend to their will.

The rule of law isn’t like that.

I’m getting really tired of their complaining. Their Dad ran a very negative campaign.

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CongoJack  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:09:15am

Good day Lizards!
I’ve been out on vacation for the last week and a half. Its been nice instead of being in my office yelling at my phone (and/or TV and computer) because of the tRumPutin; I’ve been on a beach yelling at my phone.

At least I got to see Hogwarts and Diagon Alley before FL drops into the ocean.

(Only half /)

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:16:17am

re: #81 DanielKi

Uhm, no. That’s confusing the technicalities of bookkeeping with how a currency’s unit worth is established.

The dollars (or yuan) I have in my bank account, which I assume are held as physical currency somewhere, are represented as bits in a computer system. When I pay a bill, those bits are what are moved, not the physical currency. That was my point there.

As for Bitcoin, I would argue that computational power does not determine its worth, but only the quantity you may have stored in your computer system. Bitcoin values have risen from $200 last year to over $3000 in recent days, and those prices have no connection to computational power, which has not seen similar spikes. There are other factors affecting Bitcoin values, including simple speculation and growing interest within traditional financial markets in the technology.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:21:47am

I miss them so much

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:22:33am

re: #78 lawhawk

Isn’t Ivanka the specialest snowflake?

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:23:35am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:23:38am

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

I miss them so much

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Any lefty who rags on President Obama should know that by far President Obama has been the best friend the LGBT community ever had and it’s not even close.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:24:15am

re: #86 Timothy Watson

Isn’t Ivanka the specialest snowflake?

You know, I might be a little sympathetic if her and her father’s fans weren’t the same people who mock people who actually to deal with viciousness.

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DanielKi  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:24:17am

re: #84 wheat-dogg

The dollars (or yuan) I have in my bank account, which I assume are held as physical currency somewhere, are represented as bits in a computer system. When I pay a bill, those bits are what are moved, not the physical currency. That was my point there.

Yep, I understood that, which is why I pointed out that this view is misleading in the case of Bitcoin.

As for Bitcoin, I would argue that computational power does not determine its worth, but only the quantity you may have stored in your computer system. Bitcoin values have risen from $200 last year to over $3000 in recent days, and those prices have no connection to computational power, which has not seen similar spikes. There are other factors affecting Bitcoin values, including simple speculation and growing interest within traditional financial markets in the technology.

Same is happening with gold, despite the finite supply and (at least to my knowledge) no wild swings in extraction rate.

The key point is this: Bitcoin is intentionally designed to have a finite money supply, to mimic the gold extraction process. Mining bitcoins becomes progressively harder and at some point it will stop.

If the world economy was based on Bitcoin, it would be a throw-back to the time of the gold standard. There would be no way to intervene in crises to manage the money supply. The built-in deflation would cripple any economy, and make sure that those who have money will see their net worth constantly increasing without lifting a finger.

And that’s in addition to the problems we already have.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:25:08am
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covfefe  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:25:39am
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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:26:47am

re: #80 wheat-dogg

It’s the same debate that Jefferson and Hamilton had back then. Jefferson had this idealistic notion of the self-sufficient gentleman farmer being the typical American, while Hamilton had the more realistic idea that urban financial and commercial centers and economic interdependence were the future of the nation.

Amazing that I was just at Lowell NHS in Mass, where they identified that very debate, and how Hamilton had it right in so many ways (and even had the idea of using hydropower to fuel the industrial revolution, but his efforts at Paterson NJ (now a NHP itself) were a few decades too soon to work on the scale that was achieved at Lowell).

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:27:25am

re: #89 HappyWarrior

You know, I might be a little sympathetic if her and her father’s fans weren’t the same people who mock people who actually to deal with viciousness.

She’s just as big of an asshole as her father is. She just looks better.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:28:00am

Passed by a TV with CNN on it, they had a chyron or whatever it is (headline) asking whether DJT was poised to fire Mueller and, a little later, something about AG Sessions going to a cabinet meeting amid turmoil.

It’s Monday.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:28:21am

re: #94 MsJ

She’s just as big of an asshole as her father is. She just looks better.

That’s my point too. She’s equally corrupt.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:28:48am

re: #91 FormerDirtDart

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Holy shit.

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:29:00am

re: #79 Skip Intro

Yeah, should correct that - it’s a real estate business that morphed into a branding business, since he doesn’t do the actual construction or maintenance on newer buildings or projects. He just slaps his name on to projects and thinks that makes him a developer.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:32:42am

Perhaps if May says a few more shitty things about Europe….

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nines09  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:34:36am

re: #3 Amory Blaine

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Video

Absolute gem.
Good day one and all. Once again, if you EVER get the chance to see Joe Bonamassa live do not pass it up. I guarantee you that show sounded better than any recording could capture. When air is being moved like that in front of you, it’s magic. I’ve always marveled at who he’s played with. Every tour is another ensemble of insane talent, a theme, and magic.

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Interesting Times  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:35:55am

re: #99 MsJ

Perhaps if May says a few more shitty things about Europe….

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Speaking of May, here’s an interesting observation contrasting her treatment with HRC’s:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:36:15am
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Interesting Times  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:36:24am

re: #101 Interesting Times

She then follows up with this comment on her own post:

Comparing May and Clinton, I wonder how much the reason May seems to have dealt with less sexism than Hillary has to do with: 1) May being a conservative, since although the biggest sexists are conservative they will generally support female conservative candidates; 2) the fact that appeals to misogyny aren’t as common in British politics as they are in American politics (misogyny has become one of the core ideologies of the GOP, but the Christian right and the alt-right aren’t really a thing in British politics); 3) the fact that Hillary identifies as a feminist, but May doesn’t; or 4) the fact that there’s no British equivalent of America’s vast right-wing slime machine, which has been attempting to destroy Hillary for decades. Of course the nasty British tabloids play a similar role, but then again, though they are viciously misogynist they will make exceptions for conservative women.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:37:22am

re: #102 The Vicious Babushka

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You know, you didn’t have to abet your father’s bullshit Ivanka.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:37:27am

re: #84 wheat-dogg

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As for Bitcoin, I would argue that computational power does not determine its worth, but only the quantity you may have stored in your computer system. Bitcoin values have risen from $200 last year to over $3000 in recent days, and those prices have no connection to computational power, which has not seen similar spikes. There are other factors affecting Bitcoin values, including simple speculation and growing interest within traditional financial markets in the technology.

Turns out that the recent WannaCry ransomware attack was more about manipulating bitcoin values than about obtaining money: by forcing people to open bitcoin wallets, they temporarily drove up the value, which certain investors took advantage of.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:39:24am

re: #99 MsJ

Perhaps if May says a few more shitty things about Europe….

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The wheels are coming off the Conservative clown car, and it’s on fire and headed for a cliff.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:39:34am

re: #101 Interesting Times

Speaking of May, here’s an interesting observation contrasting her treatment with HRC’s:

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Britain had the Iron Lady. The US has not yet had a woman president. They have always been ahead of the American as asshole curve.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:40:50am

re: #106 Dr Lizardo

The wheels are coming off the Conservative clown car, and it’s on fire and headed for a cliff.

Had they not done the whole Manifesto thing (including the Dementia tax), she would have won.

We can only be thankful when they are stupid, because not all of them are.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:41:17am

re: #106 Dr Lizardo

The wheels are coming off the Conservative clown car, and it’s on fire and headed for a cliff.

Even better, they have just adopted a conservative Unionist party as a coalition partner whose platform and ideology are entirely consistent with the GOP…

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:42:08am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:42:11am

It seemed for a little while the Tories were becoming a decent center-right alternative to Labour.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:42:31am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:43:03am

re: #110 FormerDirtDart

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Alex Jones is responsible for that shit. If Kelly has any actual integrity or decency, she’d call him out on it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:44:08am

re: #108 MsJ

Had they not done the whole Manifesto thing (including the Dementia tax), she would have won.

We can only be thankful when they are stupid, because not all of them are.

Oh, yeah. They botched it badly. And they’re continuing to botch it almost daily. The latest: the Queen’s speech, originally scheduled for June 19th, has now been delayed.

bbc.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:45:24am

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

Oh, yeah. They botched it badly. And they’re continuing to botch it almost daily. The latest: the Queen’s speech, originally scheduled for June 19th, has now been delayed.

bbc.com

What is significance of Queen rescheduling her speech?

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:47:16am

Weeeeeeee……

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:47:42am

re: #116 MsJ

Weeeeeeee……

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That should terrify people but it won’t terrify enough people.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:49:07am

re: #104 HappyWarrior

You know, you didn’t have to abet your father’s bullshit Ivanka.

You, as a moral person, can think that this statement is true. She, being the coddled brat that she is, with a domineering father, has no choice. It doesn’t excuse (on any level) what she is, but she can’t not support dear ole dad.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:49:19am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:49:30am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

What is significance of Queen rescheduling her speech?

It’s the opening of Parliament basically. It’s where they present HM government’s legislative agenda. The fact they don’t have apparently don’t have an agenda yet isn’t good; they’re still trying to negotiate with the DUP.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:50:18am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

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It’s funny how sensitive they get when they get it thrown back on them. Then again these are the same people who bitch about how “sensitive” everyone is these days and are ragegasming at FB for having a rainbow pride icon.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:50:41am

re: #111 HappyWarrior

It seemed for a little while the Tories were becoming a decent center-right alternative to Labour.

Hmmm…I must have missed that decent part. Because they weren’t and aren’t. The whole austerity thing is what helped break the UK into what it is now. Austerity took everything from regular people and made them suffer. Means testing the disabled, telling people who absolutely cannot work that they must, treatment of people who are “rough sleepers” (an interesting way to refer to homeless people).

The Tories have never been decent in any fashion. At least not in my adult lifetime.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:50:53am

I’m really worried about what the DUP being in the coalition might mean for Northern Ireland.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:51:31am

re: #122 MsJ

Hmmm…I must have missed that decent part. Because they weren’t and aren’t. The whole austerity thing is what helped break the UK into what it is now. Austerity took everything from regular people and made them suffer. Means testing the disabled, telling people who absolutely cannot work that they must, treatment of people who are “rough sleepers” (an interesting way to refer to homeless people).

The Tories have never been decent in any fashion. At least not in my adult lifetime.

You were probably paying more attention than I was then because I missed that.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:51:35am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

She must have missed her father’s convention.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:53:27am

re: #125 Sir John Barron

She must have missed her father’s convention.

Especially the part where Ted Cruz’s wife had to be escorted off the convention floor because Trump supporters were threatening her.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:54:37am

re: #123 HappyWarrior

I’m really worried about what the DUP being in the coalition might mean for Northern Ireland.

Well, let’s see what Sinn Féin has to say about that:

independent.co.uk

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:54:50am

re: #126 Timothy Watson

Especially the part where Ted Cruz’s wife had to be escorted off the convention floor because Trump supporters were threatening her.

Such classy people the Trumpers.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:55:06am

re: #123 HappyWarrior

I’m really worried about what the DUP being in the coalition might mean for Northern Ireland.

I fully expect daily stories about Belfast again. Number of deaths, shit blowing up. Back to the good old days (/// obviously) of who’s blowing up whom.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:55:26am

re: #127 Dr Lizardo

Well, let’s see what Sinn Féin has to say about that:

independent.co.uk

No surprise there.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:55:51am

re: #129 MsJ

I fully expect daily stories about Belfast again. Number of deaths, shit blowing up. Back to the good old days (/// obviously) of who’s blowing up whom.

At least RWNJs will find out that Muslims aren’t the only ones capable of bombs. //

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:56:09am

Trump was vicious throughout the campaign.

He attacked Gold Star Parents
He attacked Judge Curiel
He attacked Ted Cruz’s father, making insane conspiracy theory nonsense about him being involved in JFK assassination.
He relentlessly attacked Obama as not being American-born.

So if you want to talk about viciousness, the finger points right back to your dad Ivanka.

Oh, and pointing out the fact that all your know-nothing ignoramus of a father is a liar, cheater, and swindler isn’t vicious. It’s an indisputable fact.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:56:13am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:56:33am

re: #126 Timothy Watson

Especially the part where Ted Cruz’s wife had to be escorted off the convention floor because Trump supporters were threatening her.

I generally ignore those kind of statements as they are subjective and cannot be qualified. And if you ignore those and concentrate on on what is verifiable, all you have left are lies, distortions and exaggerations.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:56:57am

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

Was she awake during the Obama years?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:57:33am

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

Ivanka Trump: I Wasn’t Expecting This ‘Level Of Viciousness’

Lock that lying Nasty Woman up!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:57:49am

re: #132 lawhawk

Trump was vicious throughout the campaign.

He attacked Gold Star Parents
He attacked Judge Curiel
He attacked Ted Cruz’s father, making insane conspiracy theory nonsense about him being involved in JFK assassination.
He relentlessly attacked Obama as not being American-born.

So if you want to talk about viciousness, the finger points right back to your dad Ivanka.

Oh, and pointing out the fact that all your know-nothing ignoramus of a father is a liar, cheater, and swindler isn’t vicious. It’s an indisputable fact.

He insulted the military too. Pretty much called them losers and said he knew more than the generals. This being the guy who didn’t know North Korea had nothing ot do with NATO. I have no sympathy at all for the Trumps. They were in over their heads. They have no busienss in politics.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:58:40am

re: #126 Timothy Watson

Especially the part where Ted Cruz’s wife had to be escorted off the convention floor because Trump supporters were threatening her.

And is it two or three Dem. candidates who have withdrawn from races due to death threats against themselves and their families?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:00:37am
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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:01:13am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

You were probably paying more attention than I was then because I missed that.

I read a lot.

The issue for me is austerity. Did they need something? Possibly. The UK wasn’t exactly Greece (which did and still needs to do something to fix their “everyone gets a paycheck no matter what but paying taxes? Pfffft.” situation), but the Brits decided that they needed the level of austerity that hurt real people (much like our republicans, who only want to hurt little people and help those who already have the most) as much as they could get away with - which was pushed by the usual suspects of right-wing Fuck-The-People think tanks and supposed monetary experts.

But my issue with the Tories goes way back to Thatcher. She was a cold-hearted bitch who was the same precursor to what is now right-wing land. I have absolutely zero love for her.

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ObserverArt  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:01:14am

re: #78 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. I’ve been indisposed for the better part of the past 10 days, taking the time to recharge the batteries and had limited internet access (which is a good thing sometimes).

So of course I come back to the same old same old idiocies spewed by the usual suspects.

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Seriously? What kind of adversity has Ivanka ever faced? She relies on daddy’s wealth to start a business that relies on foreign workers to make her clothing line. She works in her daddy’s construction business, just like her brothers. They haven’t faced adversity ever.

They wouldn’t know what adversity is if it dropped on them like a bag of hammers.

But daddy knows viciousness. It’s all he does. He’s a bully and her brothers have learned the same tactic because they see it work. When you’ve inherited your fortune, everything comes easy and you think everyone will just bend to their will.

The rule of law isn’t like that.

I wondered where you have been…I missed the greetings from the resistance.

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:03:16am

re: #141 ObserverArt

Yeah, I was tweeting throughout if you needed a fix, but on a greatly reduced rate as well. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:03:19am

re: #140 MsJ

I read a lot.

The issue for me is austerity. Did they need something? Possibly. The UK wasn’t exactly Greece (which did and still needs to do something to fix their “everyone gets a paycheck no matter what but paying taxes? Pfffft.” situation), but the Brits decided that they needed the level of austerity that hurt real people (much like our republicans, who only want to hurt little people and help those who already have the most) as much as they could get away with - which was pushed by the usual suspects of right-wing Fuck-The-People think tanks and supposed monetary experts.

But my issue with the Tories goes way back to Thatcher. She was a cold-hearted bitch who was the same precursor to what is now right-wing land. I have absolutely zero love for her.

Oh yeah, I can’t stand Thatcher especially. While I did not celebrate her death by any means, the slobberfest bothered me a lot.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:03:22am

re: #123 HappyWarrior

I’m really worried about what the DUP being in the coalition might mean for Northern Ireland.

Part of the DUP’s platform is for the soft border to remain between the occupation and the rest of the country. That is going to be a high hurdle for the Tories to breach assuming the DUP stands fast.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:03:41am
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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:04:28am

re: #135 Sir John Barron

Was she awake during the Obama years?

Sure. She was off skiing in Telluride, attending Fashion Week in Paris, visiting her sweat shops in Asia. The things every American kid does. /

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:04:41am

re: #145 Dr. Matt

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Yep, he was down right gleeful about being “proven right.” Sick son of a bitch.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:04:44am

re: #131 HappyWarrior

At least RWNJs will find out that Muslims aren’t the only ones capable of bombs. //

OMG GERRY ADAMS IS A SEEKRIT MOOSLIM LOOK AT HIS BEARD!!!

*in all fairness to Mr. Adams, he does, in fact, have a magnificent beard.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:04:57am

re: #144 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Part of the DUP’s platform is for the soft border to remain between the occupation and the rest of the country. That is going to be a high hurdle for the Tories to breach assuming the DUP stands fast.

What exactly is the soft border?

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DanielKi  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:06:09am

re: #144 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Part of the DUP’s platform is for the soft border to remain between the occupation and the rest of the country. That is going to be a high hurdle for the Tories to breach assuming the DUP stands fast.

We discussed this issue before. I still can’t square that with their demand that there won’t be a special status for NI no matter what. It’s likely to increase the chance that there will be a hard border.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:06:21am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

OMG GERRY ADAMS IS A SEEKRIT MOOSLIM LOOK AT HIS BEARD!!!

*in all fairness to Mr. Adams, he does, in fact, have a magnificent beard.

Hahaha. Funny story, but I had some very right wing Irish-American friends growing up. The only thing we really agreed on politically was the unification of Ireland eventually. I liked to tease them by pointing out the left in NI have been the champions of unification and the right the biggest of staying with Britain.

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piratedan  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:06:59am

I guess it all comes down to what level of viciousness was she expecting?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:07:24am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

What exactly is the soft border?

The border between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic…which is now a Schengen border and is about to become an EU border as well…

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:07:31am

re: #153 piratedan

I guess it all comes down to what level of viciousness was she expecting?

Pussy grabbing. You know, base level Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:07:56am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The border between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic…which is now a Schengen border and is about to become an EU border as well…

Thanks, thought so.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:08:44am

re: #146 MsJ

You know how hard it is to choose between vacationing in Monte Carlo or skiing in Telluride is.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:08:59am

Ouch. Twitter was not kind to Ivanka.

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piratedan  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:09:14am

re: #155 lawhawk

well, considering the feeling among the current fans of the President, I’m sure that there would be a certain constituency lining up for that task….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:09:22am

re: #146 MsJ

Sure. She was off skiing in Telluride, attending Fashion Week in Paris, visiting her sweat shops in Asia. The things every American kid does. /

I don’t think she ever set foot in one of her child slave sweatshops.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:10:02am

re: #160 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t think she ever set foot in one of her child slave sweatshops.

she would never expect that level of cruelty

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:10:08am

re: #158 MsJ

Ouch. Twitter was not kind to Ivanka.

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Careful, Trump might start ordering drone strikes for mocking his little snowflake.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:10:36am

re: #150 DanielKi

We discussed this issue before. I still can’t square that with their demand that there won’t be a special status for NI no matter what. It’s likely to increase the chance that there will be a hard border.

The whole soft border should be a non-starter for the UK as they have a “landed on UK soil, cannot be turned back” treaty meaning once someone hits IRE soil, they are in the UK. It goes against everything the Leavers want.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:10:44am

re: #90 DanielKi

Yep, I understood that, which is why I pointed out that this view is misleading in the case of Bitcoin.

Same is happening with gold, despite the finite supply and (at least to my knowledge) no wild swings in extraction rate.

The key point is this: Bitcoin is intentionally designed to have a finite money supply, to mimic the gold extraction process. Mining bitcoins becomes progressively harder and at some point it will stop.

If the world economy was based on Bitcoin, it would be a throw-back to the time of the gold standard. There would be no way to intervene in crises to manage the money supply. The built-in deflation would cripple any economy, and make sure that those who have money will see their net worth constantly increasing without lifting a finger.

And that’s in addition to the problems we already have.

Your point about the finite supply and deflation is well taken, and I’m not arguing that at all. There are certainly Bitcoiners who believe it to be the foundation of a new world economy “controlled by the people” (as if), but I take a more realistic view. National governments and law enforcement agencies are not going to stand idly by while millions of dollars flit across the Internet unchecked and untaxed between unidentified parties. China has already clamped down on the Bitcoin exchanges here, trying to stanch capital flight by every means possible. Japan, on the other hand, has decided to integrate Bitcoin (and another system called Ripple) into its banking system. I suspect that Bitcoin will eventually become just another government approved and regulated financial asset, and not the world currency its fans proclaim it will be. Life just doesn’t work that way.

In fact, Bitcoin is not decentralized as much as its creator may have intended. There are big players in the Bitcoin universe — miners and the Bitcoin Core team, for example — who are directing the core tech underlying the system. The little fish like me who use Bitcoin have little or no say in any of that. This might be intended as a feature and not as a bug, come to think of it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:11:29am

re: #151 HappyWarrior

Hahaha. Funny story, but I had some very right wing Irish-American friends growing up. The only thing we really agreed on politically was the unification of Ireland eventually. I liked to tease them by pointing out the left in NI have been the champions of unification and the right the biggest of staying with Britain.

Yeah, Sinn Féin is a democratic socialist party; that sort of trips up American RW’ers from time to time - I honestly think they don’t realize it. I’ve met a couple of Sinn Féin members here in Europe, English teachers like me; they’re nice enough and definitely Irish nationalists, but they struck me as committed to the political process, not violence.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:12:40am

re: #157 Colère Tueur de Lapin

You know how hard it is to choose between vacationing in Monte Carlo or skiing in Telluride is.

These days, Russia is quite en vogue with the Trump clan.

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ObserverArt  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:12:42am

re: #92 covfefe

efuseakay @efuseakay
.@IvankaTrump is this the viciousness you’re talking about?
10:23 AM - 12 Jun 2017
5 5 Retweets 2 2 likes

You don’t understand. Blacks are used to all the negative stuff thrown at them. They grew up knowing they would be treated like they are treated. So, Obama could take it.

The Trumps are White and rich so they are not used to being targeted for everything they do. No one ever questioned them before Daddy Donny became president. They had no idea what awaited them.

Can you see the difference? Feel sorry for the poor rich White Trumps…they don’t have the proper makeup for all of this.

///infinity

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:13:10am
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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:14:10am

re: #160 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t think she ever set foot in one of her child slave sweatshops.

You think? I would expect to see her rubbing her hands together enjoying all those children being gainfully employed for 15 hours a day at a whopping $2.00 USD per month. She’s doing god’s work, donchano?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:14:14am

re: #168 The Vicious Babushka

Oh, a Fox & Friends “Exclusive”.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:14:43am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, Sinn Féin is a democratic socialist party; that sort of trips up American RW’ers from time to time - I honestly think they don’t realize it. I’ve met a couple of Sinn Féin members here in Europe, English teachers like me; they’re nice enough and definitely Irish nationalists, but they struck me as committed to the political process, not violence.

I think my tour guide on the Easter Rising tour I went on was Sinn Fein or at least quite sympathetic. Just yeah Irish nationalists. He loved my Irish brigade tattoo and was a great guy to talk to after the tour. But yeah I think it always does baffle hardcore Irish-American conservatives that the Sinn Feiners are democratic socialists. I think a lot of Americans have the wrong impression that NI is just Catholic vs Protestant. I mean there are certainly more Catholic nationalists than Protestant ones but if religion has come up, it’s been because of how Catholics were treated in the past.

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:15:25am

re: #158 MsJ

That’s just the stuff that they could actually reprint.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:15:43am

re: #168 The Vicious Babushka

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I’m saving my tears for someone who deserves it. Your father literally talked about the “second amendment people” doing something about Hillary, your father appears with Ted Nugent, your father accused his chief rival’s father of killing JFK, etc. Sorry Ivanka but oyu and your entire family can fuck the fuck off.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:16:25am

re: #170 Sir John Barron

Oh, a Fox & Friends “Exclusive”.

Fox and Friends exclusive: Why are liberals constantly complaining and up next, why DOnald Trump has been treated worse than any president ever including that guy whose citizenship we questioned.

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:16:26am

Playing catchup…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:17:23am

re: #175 lawhawk

Playing catchup…

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With all respect to Ana, he’s not those. I know you’re still a Republican, Ana and that’s fine but look at what Ryan actually is please.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:17:51am

re: #168 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:18:03am

Ryan’s nothing but a punkass that read Atlas Shrugged and thinks it should be the basis for our economic policy. He’s neither thoughtful nor compassionate.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:18:57am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Turns out that the recent WannaCry ransomware attack was more about manipulating bitcoin values than about obtaining money: by forcing people to open bitcoin wallets, they temporarily drove up the value, which certain investors took advantage of.

Turns out cheats, liars, grifters and crooks can make money with Bitcoin same with as any other currency. There’s a new “double your Bitcoin in less than a month” website out almost every month.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:20:20am

re: #177 Dr. Matt

Ivanka wasn’t expected a tweet this vicious and ferocious.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:21:27am

re: #171 HappyWarrior

I think my tour guide on the Easter Rising tour I went on was Sinn Fein or at least quite sympathetic. Just yeah Irish nationalists. He loved my Irish brigade tattoo and was a great guy to talk to after the tour. But yeah I think it always does baffle hardcore Irish-American conservatives that the Sinn Feiners are democratic socialists. I think a lot of Americans have the wrong impression that NI is just Catholic vs Protestant. I mean there are certainly more Catholic nationalists than Protestant ones but if religion has come up, it’s been because of how Catholics were treated in the past.

My late father was out-and-out supportive of the IRA. Not as in money or anything, but he certainly ascribed to the Irish nationalist cause. He was vehemently anti-British, particulary in regards to Ireland - seriously, he’d give Mel Gibson a run for his money, LOL. Weirdest part…..my dad was straight-up Italian; his mom and dad emigrated from Italy to the USA only six years before he was born.

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covfefe  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:22:39am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:24:07am

re: #181 Dr Lizardo

My late father was out-and-out supportive of the IRA. Not as in money or anything, but he certainly ascribed to the Irish nationalist cause. He was vehemently anti-British, particulary in regards to Ireland - seriously, he’d give Mel Gibson a run for his money, LOL. Weirdest part…..my dad was straight-up Italian; his mom and dad emigrated from Italy to the USA only six years before he was born.

I’m actually pretty sympathetic to Irish nationalism myself. I don’t hate the Brits themselves but I do believe that Ulster belongs to the ROI. It’d be funny if I ever met my relatives that might still live in in NI and find out they’re staunch Unionists heh.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:24:36am

Sessions is going to testify in an open hearing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:25:31am
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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:26:29am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:26:32am

re: #183 HappyWarrior

I’m actually pretty sympathetic to Irish nationalism myself. I don’t hate the Brits themselves but I do believe that Ulster belongs to the ROI. It’d be funny if I ever met my relatives that might still live in in NI and find out they’re staunch Unionists heh.

They used the classic ploy of playing the Protestant settlers off against the Catholics like they did with poor whites and blacks in the US South.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:27:12am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, Sinn Féin is a democratic socialist party; that sort of trips up American RW’ers from time to time - I honestly think they don’t realize it. I’ve met a couple of Sinn Féin members here in Europe, English teachers like me; they’re nice enough and definitely Irish nationalists, but they struck me as committed to the political process, not violence.

In general, American’s understand as much about European politics as European’s understand American politics. There may be a small glimmer of ideas, but understanding? Not deeply.

We, are again, separated by a common tongue where words are interpreted differently, and people tend to pay attention to what affects them. Though, when it comes down to it, most Americans don’t understand their own politics very well due to a lack of understanding of how our government is supposed to word and being morons.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:27:20am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:27:36am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They used the classic ploy of playing the Protestant settlers off against the Catholics like they did with poor whites and blacks in the US South.

Exactly which is why working class Protestant areas became some of the ripest bastions of Unionist violence. The Paisleys of the world needed to convince them “Well at least you’re not a Papist.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:27:36am

re: #183 HappyWarrior

I’m actually pretty sympathetic to Irish nationalism myself. I don’t hate the Brits themselves but I do believe that Ulster belongs to the ROI. It’d be funny if I ever met my relatives that might still live in in NI and find out they’re staunch Unionists heh.

Same here; I have nothing against the British, but I believe in a united Ireland. Some of the fears of the Loyalists seem laughable, to be honest; a mix of obscure anti-Catholic conspiracy theories and outright hysteria that the Swiss Guard is gonna come in there and massacre them all on the orders of the Pope or something.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:28:21am

re: #188 Colère Tueur de Lapin

In general, American’s understand as much about European politics as European’s understand American politics. There may be a small glimmer of ideas, but understanding? Not deeply.

We, are again, separated by a common tongue where words are interpreted differently, and people tend to pay attention to what affects them. Though, when it comes down to it, most Americans don’t understand their own politics very well due to a lack of understanding of how our government is supposed to word and being morons.

Which is why Bernie Sanders and his supporters commentary on last week’s UK results was unnecessary. Our two countries are totally different.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:29:30am

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

Same here; I have nothing against the British, but I believe in a united Ireland. Some of the fears of the Loyalists seem laughable, to be honest; a mix of obscure anti-Catholic conspiracy theories and outright hysteria that the Swiss Guard is gonna come in there and massacre them all on the orders of the Pope or something.

I even have British cousins in law since two of my cousins married British guys and I’ve liked most British people I have met. But yeah the Loyalist paranoia amuses me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:30:01am
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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:33:26am

Thread!

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:38:00am

Gotta get ready for another meeting. Thought I would drop this off.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:38:08am

cnn.com
Hey Beach Dem if you’re here, your pal Bakari Sellers wrote a very nice article about Tom Perriello.
There is the false narrative emerging that Perriello, who has scored the endorsements of Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, is viewed as representing the progressive wing of the party. In contrast, Northam, a former two-term senator, who has the endorsements of many traditional Virginia Democrats, including Sen. Tim Kaine and Gov. Terry McAuliffe, is viewed to represent the more establishment wing of the party.
The Democratic Party cannot and should not be summarized as establishment versus progressives. And, more importantly, it cannot win with that kind of rivalry.
For example, there are many Clinton supporters who appreciate both candidates for their progressive stances, but are still supporting Perriello because they are drawn to his authentic social justice message, one that’s rooted in understanding the plight of voters of color coupled with tangible policy goals.

Bakari nails it and he also nails what has made Tom such an appealing candidate to me. He’s able to talk about economics without dismissing civil rights concerns.

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DanielKi  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:41:33am

re: #164 wheat-dogg

I’d argue that Bitcoin is only useful as long as it does *not* become a major currency.

I think it’s better to separate the money exchange issues from the money supply issues. Bitcoin is both, and if it would ever be adopted in a major way we would run into the supply issues I pointed out.

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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:50:36am

re: #184 MsJ

Sessions is going to testify in an open hearing.

So that Trump can tweet that Sessions has exonerated him.

This is all Kabuki.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:51:16am

re: #199 freetoken

So that Trump can tweet that Sessions has exonerated him.

This is all Kabuki.

Yup. Sessions requested to testify. He’s going to lie his ass off.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:52:02am

re: #199 freetoken

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:54:15am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:56:28am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:58:17am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:58:57am

re: #200 MsJ

Yup. Sessions requested to testify. He’s going to lie his ass off.

On the other hand, he might be willing to stick it to Trump publicly if the rumors about him offering to resign are true.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:59:46am

re: #203 The Vicious Babushka

He’s built the wall, destroyed ISIS, rebuilt the country’s infrastructure, eliminated Obamacare and cut taxes down to zero, eliminated the national debt, cured cancer, and eliminated poverty.

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:00:50am

re: #206 Sir John Barron

He’s built the wall, destroyed ISIS, rebuilt the country’s infrastructure, eliminated Obamacare and cut taxes down to zero, eliminated the national debt, cured cancer, and eliminated poverty.

He would never eliminate poverty.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:01:14am

re: #207 Belafon

He would never eliminate poverty.

But he can say he eliminated it.

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b.d.  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:01:28am

re: #206 Sir John Barron

He’s built the wall, destroyed ISIS, rebuilt the country’s infrastructure, eliminated Obamacare and cut taxes down to zero, eliminated the national debt, cured cancer, and eliminated poverty.

Yep, he can’t resign now knowing he was the bested preznit ever.

Please?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:02:52am

re: #203 The Vicious Babushka

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Hahahhaha yeah but at the same time, you complain about obstructionism. Fuck off Donny.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:03:26am

He really is a special kind of delusion.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:03:53am

Thing is his supporters believe everything he says.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:05:03am

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Thing is his supporters believe everything he says.

If he got on TV and told his followers the wall was already built, they would believe it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:05:51am

re: #213 wheat-dogg

If he got on TV and told his followers the wall was already built, they would believe it.

They would.

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:06:04am

re: #208 Sir John Barron

But he can say he eliminated it.

Trump: I’ve eliminated poverty.
Trump Voter: But I’m still poor.
Trump: But you’re not in poverty. See, there’s a difference.
TV: Yeah, I see now. Fuck the blacks!

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Jenner7  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:06:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:07:39am

re: #213 wheat-dogg

If he got on TV and told his followers the wall was already built, they would believe it.

and you could show them pictures of empty desert and they would see a wall in it…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:08:51am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and you could show them pictures of empty desert and they would see a wall in it…

It’s a “virtual wall”. :p

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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:09:09am

This seems like a slow rolling disaster in the making:

Orange Order asks DUP to use banned sectarian Drumcree march in negotiations with Theresa May

But I thought all religious strife was caused by Muslims???

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:09:38am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and you could show them pictures of empty desert and they would see a wall in it…

Thing is, there are already sections of a border wall in place. He could show those, and the ijits would eat it up.

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wrenchwench  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:10:01am

Fierce! Joe Bonamassa & Tina Guo

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:10:33am

re: #219 freetoken

Orange Order, huh? Sounds like a perfect name for Trumps secret police.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:10:35am

re: #220 wheat-dogg

Thing is, there are already sections of a border wall in place. He could show those, and the ijits would eat it up.

Or he could show them pictures of the Israeli border wall.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:10:47am

re: #200 MsJ

Yup. Sessions requested to testify. He’s going to lie his ass off.

Already has with no consequences, why not continue.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:11:05am

re: #222 Eclectic Cyborg

Orange Order, huh? Sounds like a perfect name for Trumps secret police.

Haha.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:11:23am

re: #219 freetoken

This seems like a slow rolling disaster in the making:

Orange Order asks DUP to use banned sectarian Drumcree march in negotiations with Theresa May

But I thought all religious strife was caused by Muslims???

Wow what’s old is new again.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:11:37am

re: #223 The Vicious Babushka

Or he could show them pictures of the Israeli border wall.

Or even better, that big ass wall from Lord of the Rings.

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Jenner7  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:13:20am

Apparently, Trump asked each cabinet member to say something great about him. Can’t wait for video.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:14:57am

re: #228 Jenner7

Apparently, Trump asked each cabinet member to say something great about him. Can’t wait for video.

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jaunte  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:15:08am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:15:47am

re: #228 Jenner7

Apparently, Trump asked each cabinet member to say something great about him. Can’t wait for video.

Jesus, what an egomaniac.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:15:47am
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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:16:49am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

Amazing by any standards that is not for a crime boss.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:16:53am

This guy makes Nixon look well adjusted ego wise.

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DanielKi  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:17:12am

re: #228 Jenner7

Apparently, Trump asked each cabinet member to say something great about him. Can’t wait for video.

Sounds like an awkward self-help meeting.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:17:23am

You’re a funny guy, Don!

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Jenner7  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:17:28am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

::barf::

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covfefe  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:17:28am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

“HEISENBERG”.

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:17:34am

Legislation Expands Presidential Records Act Preservation to Include Social Media

WASHINGTON — Today, U.S. Representative Mike Quigley (IL-05), co-founder and co-chair of the Congressional Transparency Caucus, introduced the Communications Over Various Feeds Electronically for Engagement or “COVFEFE” Act. This bill codifies vital guidance from the National Archives by amending the Presidential Records Act to include the term “social media” as a documentary material, ensuring additional preservation of presidential communication and statements while promoting government accountability and transparency.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:17:43am

Wow, the GOP really do worship Trump.

So fucked up.

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jaunte  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:18:17am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:18:29am

re: #240 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow, the GOP really do worship Trump.

So fucked up.

They always will. He beat Hillary, nothing else matters.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:19:07am

re: #236 HappyWarrior

You’re a funny guy, Don!

GoodFellas I’m funny how I mean, funny like I’m a clown

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:20:26am

re: #243 Timothy Watson

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Yep!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:21:28am
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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:22:24am

The following kind of stories would have been big news on most days in previous times, but these are not normal times:

US President Donald Trump faces conflict of interest accusations over new FBI headquarters

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:22:29am

Sigh why did we elect this bastard?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:22:54am

re: #246 freetoken

The following kind of stories would have been big news on most days in previous times, but these are not normal times:

US President Donald Trump faces conflict of interest accusations over new FBI headquarters

Yep just another day in the “drained swamp.”

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:23:08am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Sigh why did we elect this bastard?

Racism, misogyny, etc.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:24:39am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Sigh why did we elect this bastard?

We didn’t. The Russians did.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:25:02am

re: #249 Timothy Watson

Racism, misogyny, etc.

Yep. Sigh. I mean it has gotten me more involved but damn it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:25:19am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:25:21am

re: #250 The Vicious Babushka

We didn’t. The Russians did.

True that. This should have been the biggest landslide in my lifetime.

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jaunte  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:25:39am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:25:51am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Sigh why did we elect this bastard?

Short answer: People are stupid.

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jaunte  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:26:18am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:26:24am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Newt’s such a hypocritical weasel. Acted like he cared about climate change once upon a time too. He has no principles at all. It’s no wonder why he’s attached himself to Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:26:40am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:26:51am

re: #254 jaunte

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He knows nothing about about the position he has. Nothing.

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retired cynic  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:27:01am

I’m skipping ahead, joining late, but the WP Op-Ed page sent me to this very scary article in the American Prospect: “After Comey, Congressional Republicans Totally Own Trump.”

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retired cynic  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:28:47am

re: #260 retired cynic

From that article: “That House [health care] bill is now the basis of the legislation Republicans in the Senate are working on entirely behind closed doors and without any public hearings so as to provide Democrats and the public no opportunity to object. We are already hearing about the influence of Republican moderates in the Senate, even though they have apparently accepted the framework of the House bill, which will eliminate not just the expansion of Medicaid but the basic Medicaid entitlement and deprive millions of other people of the private insurance that they gained through the Affordable Care Act.

“When Trump signs that legislation—as I expect he will in September—he will herald it as a great victory, the fulfillment of his party’s and his own pledge to repeal and replace Obamacare. This is exactly why at the Senate hearing where Comey made his devastating charges, Republicans pretended not to see the evidence of obstruction of justice. For the time being, they have no interest whatsoever in initiating proceedings against the president that would consume their agenda. They know they have Trump in a position where he has no real choice except to do what they want.”

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wrenchwench  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:33:21am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Sigh why did we elect this bastard?

Lone Ranger-Oscar Brown Jr.-1974

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:35:56am
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dharmamark  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:39:03am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

Got our tickets for the DC show.

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Jenner7  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:39:12am
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Jenner7  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:40:27am

But did he ask them to say nice things? That’s what I want to know.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:40:34am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:40:58am

re: #265 Jenner7

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Hell, Shakespeare in the Park can just play that video and skip performing King Lear.

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wrenchwench  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:41:55am

re: #264 dharmamark

Got our tickets for the DC show.

/Lizard turns green

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:42:09am

re: #265 Jenner7

Yes, this is all very normal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:42:26am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:43:35am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

Newt received new talking points this morning.

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:44:21am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:45:10am

re: #273 gocart mozart

In the famous tan suit. Nice!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:45:37am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:45:56am

re: #230 jaunte

I hope this becomes a weekly thing. One day some cabinet member will be insufficiently sycophantic after which that cabinet member’s seat will explode like in James Bond.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:48:02am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:48:07am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, OK.

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Jenner7  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:48:11am

Here’s the video. Not explicitly asking, but…

President Trump Holds First Full Cabinet Meeting 6/12/17 | June 12,2017

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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:48:32am

re: #276 Sir John Barron

It’ll be something like this:

Austin Powers- Mustafa

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:48:56am

re: #196 MsJ

Gotta get ready for another meeting. Thought I would drop this off.

[Embedded content]

That’s the Kansas legislative GOP undoing the disastrous Brownback tax cuts and pass-through baffling BS that destroyed the past several years worth of state budgets because revenue plummeted and there was no economic growth.

Brownback pushed trickle down to its conclusive end - it still fails. It created a lot of paperwork changes, namely everyone changing business form to take advantage of tax preferences under pass-throughs. It didn’t generate new economic activity and it didn’t generate new revenue.

The state suffered tremendously, to the point where the state GOP realized that they needed to pay for the basics - education, roads, etc.

Of course, Trump is modeling much of his empty platitudes on tax reform around the Brownback plan.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:50:11am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Saw that. The wife and I are thinking of catching them. Saw James 2 summers ago, great show.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:51:30am

re: #279 Jenner7

This is his first full cabinet meeting? Seems…late.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:52:20am

re: #283 Sir John Barron

This is his first full cabinet meeting? Seems…late.

Hard to find time in his schedule between golf and Twitter.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:55:13am

re: #283 Sir John Barron

This is his first full cabinet meeting? Seems…late.

IT is.

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:56:20am

re: #246 freetoken

The following kind of stories would have been big news on most days in previous times, but these are not normal times:

US President Donald Trump faces conflict of interest accusations over new FBI headquarters

Trump always favors working with people he knows (there’s that loyalty/nepotism/closed system). That’s why he’s continually going back to the same law firm for various choices (filling ambassador to Israel, FBI, personal representation, etc.). It’s why he’s back to having Lewandowski in his orbit and why the same names keep cropping up.

He values loyalty to him over all else, and competence doesn’t matter. It never has.

It’s also why he acts like a bully and uses lawfare to try and wiggle out of the messes of his own creation. When he doesn’t like an outcome, he sics his lawyers on the opponents (even his own vendors who do a good job by his own admission) to get out of paying them their fair and deserved compensation).

It’s what he’s done his entire life.

He never cared about the rule of law while a private citizen, and now it’s downright dangerous and abhorrent that the President looks at the US Constitution and ignores parts of it outright.

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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 9:59:51am

re: #286 lawhawk

I don’t know how many of our fellow Americans who are Trumpers will ever change their minds.

And I am seeing all sorts of garbage show up on my Facebook wall, mostly hatred of Muslims.

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ObserverArt  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:00:54am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

CNN Politics ✔ @CNNPolitics
WH Chief of Staff Reince Priebus to Trump: “We thank you for the opportunity and blessing to serve your agenda”
12:07 PM - 12 Jun 2017
261 261 Retweets 265 265 likes

I guess to work with Trump it isn’t enough to kiss the ring. You need to acknowledge his win, cite the number of EC votes and mention he beat Clinton which no one thought he could do.

Then you have to kiss his fat ass by telling him how fortunate you are to be abused by him in such a glorious way.

We have a completely out-of-his-mind president. What a loony bird.

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:01:05am

re: #254 jaunte

There are 100s of positions across the high levels of all the cabinet agencies that have gone unfilled. Trump hasn’t even nominated anyone for the jobs. They range from policy slots to key interagency positions as well as federal attorneys and other positions within the defense establishment, foreign policy, and national security generally.

The lack of nominations means that he’s putting the nation at risk.

He’s simply not doing his fucking job. I can’t be more plain than that.

Trump isn’t doing his fucking job. His job includes nominating these positions which help him do his job. He can’t even be bothered to make the nominations, instead hoping that his followers believe that it’s the fault of Democrats that his positions aren’t being filled.

They can’t be filled unless he nominates them, and he’d rather play golf than do the hard work of sorting through the jobs and proffering nominations so that the Senate GOP can do their job and rubber stamp them.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:01:39am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

Vomit

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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:01:40am

I believe many of our fellow Americans are at an ideological dead end. They are now just mush, as to what they believe. All they have left is reactionary triggers.

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Jay C  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:03:09am

re: #286 lawhawk

He never cared about the rule of law while a private citizen, and now it’s downright dangerous and abhorrent that the President looks at the US Constitution and ignores parts of it outright.

And just as “dangerous and abhorrent” (if not more so) is the apparent fact that Congress (well, Congressional Republicans) have an equally dismissive attitude towards the Constitutional norms, as long as they have an opportunity to jam their retrograde agendas through.

I’m really surprised that there has not been more public pushback against the Senate Republicans’ parliamentary shenanigans to shove the AHCA through without even the pretense of normal Senate procedure. Given that the initial introduction of the disastrous TrumpCare bill was, basically, hooted down by public displeasure, one would think that the latest iteration (basically the same bill) should suffer the same fate.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:03:16am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

Geeze, Rinse couldn’t even cobble together something “We thank you for this opportunity to serve the American people.”

Nope. Had to be more explicity—“your agenda”.

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ObserverArt  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:04:03am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Sigh why did we elect this bastard?

“We?”

I am not a party to this madness!

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:04:37am

re: #276 Sir John Barron

I hope this becomes a weekly thing. One day some cabinet member will be insufficiently sycophantic after which that cabinet member’s seat will explode like in James Bond.

Trump could call himself Blohard.

Number One, report on the bed!

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blueraven  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:09:39am

Appeals court rules against Trump’s revised travel ban.

per MSNBC Pete Williams

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:10:13am

re: #296 blueraven

Appeals court rule against trumps revised travel ban.

per MSNBC Pete Williams

Tweetstorm incoming.

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:11:13am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:11:16am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

Tweetstorm incoming.

And another DJT temper tantrum.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:12:19am

re: #299 Sir John Barron

And another DJT temper tantrum.

That’s what I was referring to - a Trumpy Twitter tantrum. It’s coming, no doubt about it.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:13:25am

re: #298 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Maybe it’s time to let someone other than Stephen Miller have a whack at it.

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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:14:10am

Didn’t someone take Trump’s phone away from him? I thought that is why he had his son doing the tweets about Comey’s testimony.

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blueraven  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:15:07am

HaHaHa. Keep tweeting…

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:16:23am

re: #303 blueraven

HaHaHa. Keep tweeting…

[Embedded content]

Do they cover citations to Twitter in Bluebook?

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(Bert the Turtle)  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:17:10am

Hey, Folks.. can anyone direct me to the direct number(or staff) of US Senators when it comes to the HealthCare bill draft? I know it was posted either here or on the Twitter, but I can’t find the damn thing anywhere.

I’m trying to get ahold of that slippery fucknut Ron Johnson’s office w/ zero luck. Any help would be appreciated.

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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:19:52am

re: #303 blueraven

In the past day or so Trump has retweeted a couple of Fox tweets. Does that now make them official statements of the President? If so, then this could get quite interesting.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:20:22am

re: #305 (Bert the Turtle)

Hey, Folks.. can anyone direct me to the direct number(or staff) of US Senators when it comes to the HealthCare bill draft? I know it was posted either here or on the Twitter, but I can’t find the damn thing anywhere.

I’m trying to get ahold of that slippery fucknut Ron Johnson’s office w/ zero luck. Any help would be appreciated.

Here ya go.

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William Lewis  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:22:28am

re: #305 (Bert the Turtle)

Hey, Folks.. can anyone direct me to the direct number(or staff) of US Senators when it comes to the HealthCare bill draft? I know it was posted either here or on the Twitter, but I can’t find the damn thing anywhere.

I’m trying to get ahold of that slippery fucknut Ron Johnson’s office w/ zero luck. Any help would be appreciated.

I’m guessing you already have these for the Unamerican Scum Bag Senator?

Sen. Ronald Johnson
Contact Info

Washington, DC
adr: U.S. Senate, 386 Russell Senate Office Building, Washington, DC 205100001
ph:[no phone numbers allowed]
fax:[no phone numbers allowed]
Milwaukee, WI
adr: 517 East Wisconsin Avenue, Suite 408, Milwaukee, WI 532024500
ph:[no phone numbers allowed]
fax:[no phone numbers allowed]
Oshkosh, WI
adr: 219 East Washington Avenue, Suite 100, Oshkosh, WI 549015029
ph:[no phone numbers allowed]
fax:[no phone numbers allowed]

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:23:16am

re: #308 William Lewis

Maybe you should link or make a graphic since LGF posting software automatically strips phone numbers.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:23:27am

re: #246 freetoken

Last years article from Forbes

The wealthiest Commander-in-Chief in American history will be exempt from conflict of interest statutes and most prohibitions against gifts (as are all U.S. presidents and vice presidents), so nothing stops Trump from maintaining the status quo and running his business from the White House. He’ll have to file a Federal Elections Committee disclosure document annually, which lists his assets and income. Tax returns, which Trump has steadfastly refused to release, do not have to be made available to the public.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:23:28am

re: #306 freetoken

In the past day or so Trump has retweeted a couple of Fox tweets. Does that now make them official statements of the President? If so, then this could get quite interesting.

STOP CENSORING ME!!!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:26:15am
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William Lewis  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:26:43am

re: #309 The Vicious Babushka

Maybe you should link or make a graphic since LGF posting software automatically strips phone numbers.

Been so long I’d forgotten about that.
numbersusa.com

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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:28:10am

re: #310 Shropshire Slasher

That article doesn’t address the emoluments claims being made.

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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:28:39am

When the Constitution itself prohibits something, it doesn’t take an additional law of Congress to make it so.

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lizardofid  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:29:07am

re: #301 Barefoot Grin

Maybe it’s time to let someone other than Stephen Miller have a whack at it.

The Hon. Sally Yates might have been a heady choice.

just sayin

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:29:23am

Media wringing their hands: Dems say ‘fuck’ to the country while GOP actually fucks the country.

cnn.com

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Jay C  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:30:37am

re: #310 Shropshire Slasher

Last years article from Forbes

That Forbes article closed with one of the ripest bits of wishful thinking I’ve seen, even in the Trump Era:

There’s a deep seated principle about not using public office for private gains. The press and the public and the Congress will certainly focus on these issues,” Kiernan pointed out. “There are numerous laws still applicable to the president, including the financial disclosure laws, the bribery laws. He can be impeached.”

Yeah, good luck with that….
JFTR, anyone know why it is that the POTUS and VPOTUS have been expempted from the usual conflict-of-interest regulations?

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:30:38am

re: #316 lizardofid

The Hon. Sally Yates might have been a heady choice.

just sayin

You mean have an actual attorney review a legal document?

Outrageous, good sir!

///

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(Bert the Turtle)  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:35:50am

re: #308 William Lewis

Yeah, the Oshkosh number was out of service.

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Ubiq  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:45:23am

re: #233 freetoken

Amazing by any standards that is not for a crime boss.

That’s an insult to crime bosses. Good leadership, even criminal leadership, does not need constant validation on this level.

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Bass Reeves  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:52:52am

re: #310 Shropshire Slasher

This means the New York billionaire would have to sell prized properties like Manhattan’s Trump Tower or Palm Beach’s Mar-a-Lago, and give control of his company to a virtual stranger instead of his children. Moreover, some of his holdings, such as his 30% stake in two office towers majority owned by real estate investment firm Vornado, cannot be sold unless he acquires his partner’s consent.

Hey…where did we just hear about Vornado? Oh right, the conflict of interest in regards to the FBI building.

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:57:27am
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BeachDem  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:28:06am

re: #197 HappyWarrior

cnn.com
Hey Beach Dem if you’re here, your pal Bakari Sellers wrote a very nice article about Tom Perriello.
There is the false narrative emerging that Perriello, who has scored the endorsements of Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, is viewed as representing the progressive wing of the party. In contrast, Northam, a former two-term senator, who has the endorsements of many traditional Virginia Democrats, including Sen. Tim Kaine and Gov. Terry McAuliffe, is viewed to represent the more establishment wing of the party.
The Democratic Party cannot and should not be summarized as establishment versus progressives. And, more importantly, it cannot win with that kind of rivalry.
For example, there are many Clinton supporters who appreciate both candidates for their progressive stances, but are still supporting Perriello because they are drawn to his authentic social justice message, one that’s rooted in understanding the plight of voters of color coupled with tangible policy goals.

Bakari nails it and he also nails what has made Tom such an appealing candidate to me. He’s able to talk about economics without dismissing civil rights concerns.

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