Trump’s Muslim Ban Shut Down Again by the 9th Circuit Court

Trump’s tweetstorms didn’t help him, oddly enough
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Donald Trump’s grotesque, bigoted and un-American ban on travel from Muslim areas has been shut down again by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

The ruling from a three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is yet another stinging loss from a court that similarly refused to reinstate Trump’s original executive order on travel in February.

“We conclude that the President, in issuing the Executive Order, exceeded the scope of the authority delegated to him by Congress,” the three judges, all appointed by President Bill Clinton, wrote. “(I)mmigration, even for the President, is not a one-person show.”The judges cited Trump’s latest tweets in the travel ban saga.Read More”That’s right, we need a TRAVEL BAN for certain DANGEROUS countries, not some politically correct term that won’t help us protect our people!” Trump tweeted on June 5.

And just as before, Trump’s idiotic, self-defeating boasts on Twitter helped the court to reach this decision.

“Indeed, the President recently confirmed his assessment that it is the ‘countries’ that are inherently dangerous, rather than the 180 million individual nationals of those countries who are barred from entry under the President’s ‘travel ban,’” the judge wrote.

They also cited White House press secretary Sean Spicer’s confirmation that the President’s tweets are “considered official statements by the President of the United States.”

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475 comments

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:31:44am

He is going to rage tweet.

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:33:41am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:35:00am

re: #2 gocart mozart

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I wonder what Melania’s lawyers got her for agreeing to hold Trump’s hand in photo-ops?

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:35:01am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:35:26am
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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:35:49am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:36:45am

Repost from down below. I’m that pissed at Jones. Sandy Hook really got to me. Don’t know any that died, but I have kids and can only imagine what hell the parents have been through. Tell NBC what you think about there programming.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:36:54am

I like the 9th Circuit Court.

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Kragar  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:37:10am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:37:17am

re: #2 gocart mozart

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Here’s Donny!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:37:30am

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

Repost from down below. I’m that pissed at Jones. Sandy Hook really got to me. Don’t know any that died, but I have kids and can only imagine what hell the parents have been through. Tell NBC what you think about there programming.

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I don’t even care that a made a typo. So their.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:37:43am

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

I did my part. I sent them that email.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:38:22am

Also a repost from downstairs:
re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They wanted an authoritarian who could come in, kick ass and get things done. In defiance of all the rules of government, the laws of economics & science or the precedents of foreign policy…

I think they dream of the old roman style Tyrant - Cincinnatus.

1-That is assuming that any modern day leader is can do such a thing effectively &
2-That they will give-up power once the job is done.

There real problems trying to compare The US to Rome —size geographically and population. There is a point in which a Republic has to change into something else -or goes away.

We’ve lasted pretty long as Republic. Florence lasted pretty long-but it was just a city. .

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:38:49am

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

Repost from down below. I’m that pissed at Jones. Sandy Hook really got to me. Don’t know any that died, but I have kids and can only imagine what hell the parents have been through. Tell NBC what you think about there programming.

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It’s that you’re a decent person with a heart. That Jones did what he did after SH really showed what a pathetic asshole he is.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:39:06am

re: #8 Birth Control Works

I like the 9th Circuit Court.

[trump]THE FAR LEFT 9TH CIRCUS COURT OF APPEALS SHOULD BE BROKEN UP!!1![/trump]

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:40:13am

re: #9 Kragar

.@SecretaryAcosta:”I always worry when I hear the word requirement because I think we’re about choice.” pic.twitter.com

— Fox News

Choice for who?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:41:18am

re: #2 gocart mozart

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re: #14 HappyWarrior

It’s that you’re a decent person with a heart. That Jones did what he did after SH really showed what a pathetic asshole he is.

Thanks.

I just can’t get over the fact that parents sent their kids to school and some didn’t come back. One of the victims was a twin and I have twins and they were really close at that age. I can’t imagine.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:41:30am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:41:47am

re: #16 Sir John Barron

Choice for who?

Rich white people of course!

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:42:22am

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

Rich white people of course!

Ah, OK, I was worried there for a minute.

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makeitstop  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:42:47am

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

Repost from down below. I’m that pissed at Jones. Sandy Hook really got to me. Don’t know any that died, but I have kids and can only imagine what hell the parents have been through. Tell NBC what you think about there programming.

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Done.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:43:18am

re: #17 I Would Prefer Not To

Thanks.

I just can’t get over the fact that parents sent their kids to school and some didn’t come back. One of the victims was a twin and I have twins and they were really close at that age. I can’t imagine.

I haven’t got any kids but being an uncle now really makes me worry a lot for children. Sandy Hook was just so tragic because of how young and innocent the victims were.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:46:14am

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:46:24am

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:47:54am

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:48:27am

re: #17 I Would Prefer Not To

I made some things for you. Scroll Down.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:49:05am

re: #22 HappyWarrior

I haven’t got any kids but being an uncle now really makes me worry a lot for children. Sandy Hook was just so tragic because of how young and innocent the victims were.

I don’t even like children very much and I know how wrong what Alex Jones did to those parents was. I mean there is apparently no such thing as any of these conservative assholes having a modicum of decency or compassion or empathy or humanity.

And that NBC is going to showcase that….Grrrrrrr! It really pisses me off.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:49:11am

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

Repost from down below. I’m that pissed at Jones. Sandy Hook really got to me. Don’t know any that died, but I have kids and can only imagine what hell the parents have been through. Tell NBC what you think about there programming.

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Thanks for posting that. I’ve sent my input the station.

At the time of Sandy Hook, I had a child that age. I had also taught children that age. It really got to me, too. The whole conspiracy theory that it didn’t happen angers me so much. Adding more hell to what the parents area already dealing with. I can’t even imagine someone being that evil to do such a thing.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:49:21am

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:50:51am

re: #25 The Vicious Babushka

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lizardofid  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:50:54am

re: #22 HappyWarrior

I haven’t got any kids but being an uncle now really makes me worry a lot for children. Sandy Hook was just so tragic because of how young and innocent the victims were.

Agreed. I’m a parent, and a grandparent. The images from SH, and photos of the little victims, is heart breaking beyond belief. Same with little Alan Kurdi. The old images from the gassed Kurdish villages. Iraq, and Syria today.

It’s the kids, it’s always on the kids.

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451_Montag  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:51:26am

re: #13 Birth Control Works

Also a repost from downstairs:
re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They wanted an authoritarian who could come in, kick ass and get things done. In defiance of all the rules of government, the laws of economics & science or the precedents of foreign policy…

I think they dream of the old roman style Tyrant - Cincinnatus.

1-That is assuming that any modern day leader is can do such a thing effectively &
2-That they will give-up power once the job is done.

There real problems trying to compare The US to Rome —size geographically and population. There is a point in which a Republic has to chang

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:51:41am

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

Done. Annoyed that I only had 500 characters, but I used every last one.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:51:54am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:52:27am

Stupid is as Stupid does

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:52:33am

Also note that Jones unleashed harassment on the parents of these children.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:52:41am

Too funny!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:52:45am
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:53:47am

I believe in keeping your friends close and your enemies closer. While doing wingnut surveillance today, some caller to Rush’s show said that the NSA under Obama (of course) hacked machines in Indiana and Georgia. The only links that came up were the Daily Caller and a WSJ piece using D.C. as the source. Even Rush admitted he hadn’t heard anything about it, but after the commercial, he went nuts. Just a heads up to y’all about the next outrageous outrage coming up.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:54:29am
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calochortus  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:54:39am

re: #35 Birth Control Works

Stupid is as Stupid does

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Ummm, these individuals with compromised immune systems would be the ones at risk, not the rest of us. As you say, stupid.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:54:42am

Are we sick of all the winning yet?

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:54:59am

re: #42 Unshaken Defiance

Are we sick of all the winning yet?

No.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:55:02am

I didn’t know that goats grow on trees.

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lizardofid  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:55:33am

re: #35 Birth Control Works

Stupid is as Stupid does

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Even better than looking elsewhere, have him crawl up on the roof and estimate it, then tell him you going to look elsewhere.

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Kragar  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:55:45am

re: #35 Birth Control Works

While I agree with the concept, how can we be really sure the guy is the one being named and that is his company?

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:55:48am

My Pets keep me out of the psych ward.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:56:04am

re: #46 Kragar

While I agree with the concept, how can we be really sure the guy is the one being named and that is his company?

u are right.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:56:44am

re: #42 Unshaken Defiance

Are we sick of all the winning yet?

Here ya go

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wrenchwench  Jun 12, 2017 • 11:58:49am

re: #49 Stanley Sea

Here ya go

[‘First New Coal Mine of Trump Era Opens in Pennsylvania’ ]

May he spend much time there.

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makeitstop  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:00:19pm

re: #46 Kragar

While I agree with the concept, how can we be really sure the guy is the one being named and that is his company?

There is this from a local TV station - the guy’s evidently got a history of putting up offensive signs.

Facebook Post

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makeitstop  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:01:59pm

Also, this.

Derogatory signs posted on a lawn in a St. Petersburg neighborhood have several residents upset.

Roland Price placed five signs in his yard on 27th Avenue North on Saturday. On them were the words Jews, infidels, an anti-gay slur and an offensive term referencing mentally handicap people. The last sign had the words “great again.”

Neighbors can’t believe it.

“It’s disgusting. It’s repulsive,” said one woman.

“I’m absolutely shocked,” said another neighbor, a block away.

News Channel 8 interviewed Roland Price in 2012 when he spoke out on gay marriage.

“Homosexuality is rampant, so how do you control that? If you’re not one of them, how do you set yourself apart?” Price said.

No one answered the door at his home Monday. Price did answer the phone, but would not agree to a recorded phone interview.

Price said his signs are self-explanatory.

He said the previous administrations had too many Jewish and LGBTQ people in their cabinets.

Price referred to a bible verse, using the word infidels, saying they should not be in the White House.

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Kragar  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:02:14pm

re: #51 makeitstop

There is this from a local TV station - the guy’s evidently got a history of putting up offensive signs.

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So then post links to that.

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makeitstop  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:02:40pm

re: #53 Kragar

So then post links to that.

Just did. :)

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:04:37pm

re: #26 Birth Control Works

I made some things for you. Scroll Down.

Love it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:05:23pm

re: #35 Birth Control Works

Stupid is as Stupid does

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I like the suggestion at the end of the sign to call the mayor for the dates and “tines”.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:06:06pm

re: #50 wrenchwench

May he spend much time there.

The whole damned family.

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wrenchwench  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:07:08pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel

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Franklin  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:08:10pm

re: #49 Stanley Sea

Wait, I thought we weren’t allowed to open new coal plants? //

Also, wasn’t that the main justification for pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement?

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:08:21pm

I have ground beef that I want to use for dinner and I cannot think of a single thing that sounds good.

Any suggestions?

Hubby and I both are experiencing the meh, nothing sounds good phase of life…which is troubling for someone who loves food, cooking and all that jazz.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:10:06pm

thread:

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:10:46pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:12:25pm

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

Repost from down below. I’m that pissed at Jones. Sandy Hook really got to me. Don’t know any that died, but I have kids and can only imagine what hell the parents have been through. Tell NBC what you think about there programming.

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I just sent my comment.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:13:14pm

re: #51 makeitstop

There is this from a local TV station - the guy’s evidently got a history of putting up offensive signs.

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Does the FB post link this guy to his business?

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:16:18pm

From the “Things can always get worse” department,

DeMint eyes ‘new mission’ for Tea Party: Changing the Constitution

Jim DeMint, the recently ousted head of the Heritage Foundation, has taken on a new mission for the conservative Tea Party Movement to amend the U.S. Constitution, USA Today reported Monday.

DeMint has joined The Convention of Sates Project, which reportedly aims to start a grassroots, state-led effort to amend the U.S. Constitution by scaling back its federal spending and power as well as address federal term limits.

The former South Carolina senator (R), who was ousted from the think tank last month, will serve as a senior adviser to the group.

thehill.com

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EPR-radar  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:17:16pm

re: #65 Skip Intro

Republicans are strong enough at the state level to make their changing the constitution a real threat.

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:19:09pm

re: #64 Sir John Barron

Does the FB post link this guy to his business?

bbb.org

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makeitstop  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:19:50pm

re: #64 Sir John Barron

Does the FB post link this guy to his business?

No, it was just posts pertaining to the guy and his signs. It doesn’t look like he or his business do Facebook.

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Citizen K  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:23:33pm

Seriously, I’m starting to think Trump actually believes he is a God-Emperor like the goons at places such as The_Donald think he is

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:24:18pm

good grief

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:24:18pm
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Interesting Times  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:24:42pm

re: #66 EPR-radar

Republicans are strong enough at the state level to make their changing the constitution a real threat.

Yes…and in response to yesterday’s question “Democrats are weak because…”, THIS is the answer:

The Democratic Party’s down-ballot collapse, explained

Over the past eight years, the Democratic Party has lost a mind-bogglingly large number of races across the country. Their share of seats in the United States Senate has fallen from 59 to 48. They’ve lost 62 House seats, 12 governorships, and 958 seats in state legislatures. Paired with Donald Trump’s Electoral College victory, that means that the party whose champion won the popular vote — and whose outgoing president delivers his farewell address Tuesday — lies right now as a smoking pile of rubble.

Would strongly recommend reading the whole thing. If there’s one thing you can solidly blame the so-called “establishment” Dems for, it’s their dreadful complacency while the above disaster unfolded over 8 years - hopefully they’ve learned from it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:25:16pm

re: #66 EPR-radar

Republicans are strong enough at the state level to make their changing the constitution a real threat.

Absolutely scary — remember the Constitution originally permitted slavery and prevented women from voting. There is no telling what damage they could do. After all, Nazi Germany did everything by the law.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:27:27pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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Yosemite? Yellowstone?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:27:28pm

re: #65 Skip Intro

….as well as address federal term limits.

Good grief, they’re still on this? They want to amend the Constitution for this?

Not that their other objects are any better.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:27:45pm

re: #71 MsJ

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This is really pathetic.

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:27:56pm

re: #72 Interesting Times

And while there’s a lot to learn from, the Republicans ran a very successful campaign on the skin color of the man in office.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:28:34pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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Freaking depressing.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:28:36pm

re: #60 MsJ

I have ground beef that I want to use for dinner and I cannot think of a single thing that sounds good.

Any suggestions?

Hubby and I both are experiencing the meh, nothing sounds good phase of life…which is troubling for someone who loves food, cooking and all that jazz.

Basic fat cheeseburgers.

On good buns.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:28:38pm

re: #65 Skip Intro

From the “Things can always get worse” department,

DeMint eyes ‘new mission’ for Tea Party: Changing the Constitution

thehill.com

DeMint is such a pathetic hack.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:29:27pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

“When I hear of a national monument, I think of a statue, not millions of acres of land.”— @JennaLeeUSA

So you have a thinking problem then, is that it?

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:31:09pm

He lies. About everything. All the time.

Trump slams media for failing to cover nonexistent energy stock boom

President Trump unleashed tweets over the weekend slamming the “fake news” media for once again ignoring terrific economic news.

Among other good economic and markets news, Trump said the “drilling & energy sector” is “way up” since the election.

But if Trump’s Oval Office desk isn’t covered with articles detailing a boom in drilling and energy stocks, it’s because there isn’t one. These stocks have done terribly since the election.

The S&P 500’s energy sector is down more than 4%, even as the Dow has soared since November 8. Energy is actually the only sector among 11 in the S&P 500 to lose ground since Trump’s win.

ExxonMobil (XOM), one of the most popular energy stocks, is the worst-performing Dow stock after the election.

money.cnn.com

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:31:37pm

re: #69 Citizen K

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Seriously, I’m starting to think Trump actually believes he is a God-Emperor like the goons at places such as The_Donald think he is

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:31:46pm

re: #65 Skip Intro

How actually does someone, a former Senator no less, get canned from a wingnut welfare job like Heritage, anyway?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:32:34pm

re: #82 Skip Intro

He lies. About everything. All the time.

Trump slams media for failing to cover nonexistent energy stock boom

money.cnn.com

Does not matter. His supporters now assume it is a Lamestream Media Plot to make him look bad, After all, he is the most persecuted president, ever.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:33:37pm

re: #82 Skip Intro

He lies. About everything. All the time.

Trump slams media for failing to cover nonexistent energy stock boom

money.cnn.com

The people who support him either know the energy market is down (and are not in it) or too stupid to know a stock from a bond or a put from a call.

Ok, I am depressed. I have to go read for a while. This is just another day in America where Republicans do every damned thing they can to fuck us up as much as they possibly can.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:34:12pm

re: #71 MsJ

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:34:28pm

re: #82 Skip Intro

But if Trump’s Oval Office desk isn’t covered with articles detailing a boom in drilling and energy stocks, it’s because there isn’t one. These stocks have done terribly since the election.

The S&P 500 and the DOW are all fake news. The real energy stocks are flying high.

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:34:44pm

re: #84 Sir John Barron

How actually does someone, a former Senator no less, get canned from a wingnut welfare job like Heritage, anyway?

Who knows. Maybe he does want to bring back slavery. He’s just a little ahead of this time.

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Interesting Times  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:35:08pm

re: #77 Belafon

And while there’s a lot to learn from, the Republicans ran a very successful campaign on the skin color of the man in office.

Like I said the other day, ~62 million voters are cultist GOP trolls and unless some of them start to self-deprogram, they’re gone for good. The only way Dems can win is by a) developing a multi-pronged attack against voter suppression and b) increasing turnout amongst the tens of millions of people perfectly capable of voting but who choose not to (mainly due to varying degrees of apathy and/or learned helplessness.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:35:47pm
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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:35:56pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

Remember when Obama was the “campaigner in chief”, allegedly?

Man, that was great……

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nines09  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:36:20pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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Sort of like when Trump hears “woman” he thinks “pussy”? To be grabbed? Like that?

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lizardofid  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:37:07pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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Quite a lack of imagination you have there Senator.

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Kragar  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:37:56pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

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KGxvi  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:38:10pm

re: #84 Sir John Barron

How actually does someone, a former Senator no less, get canned from a wingnut welfare job like Heritage, anyway?

Normally, it’s by publicly saying you’re pro-choice, or that you support Obamacare… In the old days, being in favor of gay marriage, but they realize they’ve lost that one. Oh, and of course, saying that taxes should be raised. But in the case of DeMint, it turns out he was just too big of an asshole, even for Heritage:

After a comprehensive and independent review of the entire Heritage organization, the Board determined there were significant and worsening management issues that led to a breakdown of internal communications and cooperation. While the organization has seen many successes, Jim DeMint and a handful of his closest advisers failed to resolve these problems.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:38:49pm
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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:39:13pm

re: #96 KGxvi

Normally, it’s by publicly saying you’re pro-choice, or that you support Obamacare… In the old days, being in favor of gay marriage, but they realize they’ve lost that one. Oh, and of course, saying that taxes should be raised. But in the case of DeMint, it turns out he was just too big of an asshole, even for Heritage:

He sounds like a great hire, then, for this convention of the states outfit.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:40:03pm

Here we go again with these dumbasses who don’t understand what “censorship” means.

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allegro  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:41:54pm

re: #60 MsJ

I have ground beef that I want to use for dinner and I cannot think of a single thing that sounds good.

Any suggestions?

Hubby and I both are experiencing the meh, nothing sounds good phase of life…which is troubling for someone who loves food, cooking and all that jazz.

I just made stuffed peppers in the Instant Pot. Tasty. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:42:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:42:51pm

re: #97 Ace-o-aces

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:43:34pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Here we go again with these dumbasses who don’t understand what “censorship” means.

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FFS no one is saying Jones should be fined or imprisoned because of his wacky beliefs just that Kelly shouldn’t be giving him a platform to spread it.

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:43:54pm

Oil lobby met with interior secretary at Trump hotel

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money.cnn.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:44:08pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:44:39pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

And by “Mueller” he doesn’t mean the former FBI director and now special counsel on Russia ratfkig, he means some other Mueller, who may not even exist.

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lizardofid  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:44:47pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Who doesn’t love a little “Spice” on your crawfish?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:46:35pm

re: #90 Interesting Times

Like I said the other day, ~62 million voters are cultist GOP trolls and unless some of them start to self-deprogram, they’re gone for good. The only way Dems can win is by a) developing a multi-pronged attack against voter suppression and b) increasing turnout amongst the tens of millions of people perfectly capable of voting but who choose not to (mainly due to varying degrees of apathy and/or learned helplessness.)

54% of the electorate didn’t vote for Trump. Even if none of the apathetic vote (and I expect they will after 4 years of Trump), we just need a nominee more popular than Clinton. Obama would’ve crushed Trump like a bug.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:46:36pm

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:46:37pm

Alex Jones groupie Megyn Kelly called out on Twitter by the relatives of the Sandy Hook victims.
m.huffpost.com
Correct Link

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KGxvi  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:46:50pm

re: #98 Sir John Barron

He sounds like a great hire, then, for this convention of the states outfit.

It’s interesting to hear alleged conservatives calling for a constitutional convention to “fix” the constitution… especially since the plan in 1789 was to “fix” the Articles of Confederation. Even slightly opening the door to the potential of a new constitution would be crazy and have a billion billion unintended consequences.

In the last 220 years, despite the repeated refrain that “there’s no such thing as federal common law”, we’ve crafted quite a bit of federal common law, particularly in the context of individual rights. How many of those get codified, how many get stricken from the list? What happens if a sufficient number of states vote to ratify the new constitution and other states vote not to (and try to choose to leave the union)? That’s just the very beginning… Then again:

Brexit II: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
(start at about 5:10 for the joke)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:47:40pm

re: #84 Sir John Barron

How actually does someone, a former Senator no less, get canned from a wingnut welfare job like Heritage, anyway?

According to Politico, Heritage had become too politicized and the board thought DeMint wasn’t the right person to return it to a real think tank that generated actual thoughtful conservative ideas. But then again, it doesn’t seem that modern conservatives have much of merit to contribute to public discourse these days.

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:48:00pm

re: #97 Ace-o-aces

It’s just pure coincidence that Showtime, where Stone’s Putin whitewash will be shown, just happens to be owned by CBS.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:48:52pm

re: #111 KGxvi

Also since conservatives think of themselves as the true Constitution lovers. Yet they want to muck it all up.

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BeachDem  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:49:56pm

re: #65 Skip Intro

From the “Things can always get worse” department,

DeMint eyes ‘new mission’ for Tea Party: Changing the Constitution

thehill.com

Always keep an eye on where Jim DeMint and Ken Blackwell are and what they’re up to—pro tip: It will always be NO GOOD.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:49:59pm

re: #113 Skip Intro

It’s just pure coincidence that Showtime, where Stone’s Putin whitewash will be shown, just happens to be owned by CBS.

Now that is a coincidence, isn’t it?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:50:27pm

re: #112 Hecuba’s daughter

According to Politico, Heritage had become too politicized and the board thought DeMint wasn’t the right person to return it to a real think tank that generated actual thoughtful conservative ideas. But then again, it doesn’t seem that modern conservatives have much of merit to contribute to public discourse these days.

Makes you wonder why they hired him in the first place. They knew what they were getting.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:51:06pm

Afternoon/Evening Lizardim.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:51:23pm

re: #114 Sir John Barron

Also since conservatives think of themselves as the true Constitution lovers. Yet they want to muck it all up.

It’s because they want to revert to the original Constitution. You know — the one with no term limits and no rights for a majority of people in the country.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:51:44pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

And by “oath” he means a drop by to Alex Jones’ radio show.

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darthstar  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:52:30pm

Sadly, the Trump penis motorcade photo is a fake.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:53:03pm

re: #121 darthstar

Sadly, the Trump penis motorcade photo is a fake.

I saw that ascribed to Putin at one point…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:53:12pm

re: #117 Sir John Barron

Makes you wonder why they hired him in the first place. They knew what they were getting.

Maybe after they hired him for Wingnut Welfare, they discovered it was not helping their brand?

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:53:30pm

No shit? Anyone who watched the show knew this after the first season

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darthstar  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:56:48pm

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I saw that ascribed to Putin at one point…

Yeah…I was thinking it was too good to be true so I googled it…Sad.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 12, 2017 • 12:57:19pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:00:48pm

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

Alex Jones groupie Megyn Kelly called out on Twitter by the relatives of the Sandy Hook victims.
m.huffpost.com
Correct Link

Oh god, I can’t. I got to the first picture and started to break down again like I did that morning in my little office.

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KGxvi  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:04:16pm

I’ve been contemplating something today after seeing there was another referendum in Puerto Rico regarding statehood (apparently statehood won big, but a lot of opponents boycotted the election). What are the odds that Puerto Rico and DC (in some manner) could become States?

I mean, procedurally, for Puerto Rico it’s pretty straight forward, Congress passes a statehood law and the president signs it. DC is a bit more complicated because of the 23rd Amendment and Article I Section 8; but even still… statehood wouldn’t be that difficult - you announce that DC will become a state, you pass a constitutional amendment repealing the 23rd Amendment and pass a statehood law at the same time (or have one become effective on the passage of the other).

What I’m considering is more the political implications. Puerto Rico becomes the 29th largest state in the Union, entitling it to 5 seats in the House; DC would get one seat in the house. Do we increase House membership (at least temporarily, I’d prefer it being a permanent increase) to 441? Between 5 new Representatives, and 4 new Senators, what are the political calculations? I’d figure all three Congressional members from DC would be Democrats, figure the PR Senators get split (complete guess), you’re looking at a 53-51 split in the Senate.

Would that be tenable for the parties? Also, one more interesting question, what if Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands were made into a single state?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:04:29pm

re: #124 Timothy Watson

No shit? Anyone who watched the show knew this after the first season

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:05:42pm

re: #124 Timothy Watson

No shit? Anyone who watched the show knew this after the first season

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Good friend of mine was one of the produces of Battlestar. They didn’t really expect it to take off after the 1st season, so they pretty much wrote themselves into a corner.

The show was elevated by the amazing performances by the character actors-turned-leads, who brought more to the roles than there was on the page. By the end of Season 2, however, the show was really finding its legs. They had no idea where to take it, though, which explains the lame final episode, based upon one writer’s fondness for “Wings of Desire.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:07:21pm

re: #124 Timothy Watson

But, yeah - especially compared to, for example, Babylon 5’s carefully plotted 5 year story and character arcs, the absence of such in BSG was pretty obvious.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:07:46pm

re: #130 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

Good friend of mine was one of the produces of Battlestar. They didn’t really expect it to take off after the 1st season, so they pretty much wrote themselves into a corner.

The show was elevated by the amazing performances by the character actors-turned-leads, who brought more to the roles than there was on the page. By the end of Season 2, however, the show was really finding its legs. They had no idea where to take it, though, which explains the lame final episode, based upon one writer’s fondness for “Wings of Desire.”

Lesson for the writers out there: Write more story than you need, just in case it works.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:08:49pm
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KGxvi  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:10:36pm

re: #130 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

Good friend of mine was one of the produces of Battlestar. They didn’t really expect it to take off after the 1st season, so they pretty much wrote themselves into a corner.

The show was elevated by the amazing performances by the character actors-turned-leads, who brought more to the roles than there was on the page. By the end of Season 2, however, the show was really finding its legs. They had no idea where to take it, though, which explains the lame final episode, based upon one writer’s fondness for “Wings of Desire.”

Seems like this is common for a lot of shows, particularly in SciFi - where networks always get squeamish about greenlighting more than a season at a time. The nature of TV (at least as it used to exist, streaming may be changing it), is that it allowed shows to meander (even if they were serialized), and suddenly facing an announcement that Season 7 will be the last season, you end up writing that they all really died on the island and that its purgatory or something.*

*Why yes, I am still annoyed by the last season of Lost, why do you ask?

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:11:44pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:12:56pm
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KGxvi  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:13:20pm

re: #132 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Lesson for the writers out there: Write more story than you need, just in case it works.

Ah, yes… the George RR Martin school of writing.

Retconning is also useful, if done right - pick an old random scene and make it way more important than you would have thought originally.

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:14:06pm
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Kragar  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:14:07pm

re: #134 KGxvi

Seems like this is common for a lot of shows, particularly in SciFi - where networks always get squeamish about greenlighting more than a season at a time. The nature of TV (at least as it used to exist, streaming may be changing it), is that it allowed shows to meander (even if they were serialized), and suddenly facing an announcement that Season 7 will be the last season, you end up writing that they all really died on the island and that its purgatory or something.*

*Why yes, I am still annoyed by the last season of Lost, why do you ask?

“And now, at the end of 8 seasons, we’ve wrapped up every major story line in Stargate.”

“We got renewed for another 2 seasons.”

“Fuck it. We’ll throw in some King Arthur shit or something.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:15:48pm

re: #139 Kragar

“And now, at the end of 8 seasons, we’ve wrapped up every major story line in Stargate.”

“We got renewed for another 2 seasons.”

“Fuck it. We’ll throw in some King Arthur shit or something.”

“Castle” and “Bones” spring to mind. Any show where the sexual tension between the leads is resolved should probably end with a wedding and a cancellation.

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:16:08pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

Having just visited Acadia (and have crossed off another 20+ from the bucket list), I can tell you Hatch is either woefully ignorant about the history of the National Park system, or worse, purposefully misinforming the public.

I’m leaning towards the latter given that he represents a state with 5 of the coolest parks I’ve visited: Arches. Canyonlands. Zion. Bryce. Capitol Reef.

Those 5 parks figure prominently in all Utah tourism promotions and advertising because they are a huge economic driver for the state.

They help much of Southeastern Utah’s local economy. Hatch knows this.

I’m guessing he simply doesn’t give a fuck.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:17:43pm

re: #139 Kragar

“And now, at the end of 8 seasons, we’ve wrapped up every major story line in Stargate.”

“We got renewed for another 2 seasons.”

“Fuck it. We’ll throw in some King Arthur shit or something.”

“We had a 5 year story line for Babylon 5, but we’re getting cancelled after 4, so let’s wrap it up early”

“Looks like we’ve got a fifth season after all”.

“OK then, just throw together 21 filler episodes before the finale!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:18:01pm

re: #141 lawhawk

I’m guessing [Orrin Hatch] simply doesn’t give a fuck.

Most certainly a throw-away bullet point for people who have no use for any monument without a Confederate general atop it…

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KGxvi  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:18:09pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

“Castle” and “Bones” spring to mind. Any show where the sexual tension between the leads is resolved should probably end with a wedding and a cancellation.

Is Bones still on?

That show was weird from a writing perspective because it never seemed like it could figure out if it wanted to be a procedural or a serial.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:20:04pm

re: #139 Kragar

“And now, at the end of 8 seasons, we’ve wrapped up every major story line in Stargate.”

“We got renewed for another 2 seasons.”

“Fuck it. We’ll throw in some King Arthur shit or something.”

That being said, the Ori were one of the creepiest villains I’ve ever seen in a TV series. Possibly because of the resemblance to people I love and used to know…

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nowherenorth2  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:20:34pm

Sitting in the hospital reading news and my god.
So much terrible.
National monuments gone because we don’t need millions of acres to commemorate what happened (them have big business stop buying land and shutting down buildings but keeping the land)
Trump totally treated like a god by others and it appears to be normalized.
Alex jones on NBC normalizing his ideals for the world because nothing says ratings like an idiot interviewing a conspiracy theory nut job
And cilizza has like 15 articles on CNN website totally giving ivanka and the orange one a hand job in hopes of joining the family business and that maybe ivanka will give him the time of day, or a show up her skirt.

Either way. The collective iq of this country is about as uncoordinated as my right side after the stroke.

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KGxvi  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:20:49pm

re: #141 lawhawk

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Having just visited Acadia (and have crossed off another 20+ from the bucket list), I can tell you Hatch is either woefully ignorant about the history of the National Park system, or worse, purposefully misinforming the public.

I’m leaning towards the latter given that he represents a state with 5 of the coolest parks I’ve visited: Arches. Canyonlands. Zion. Bryce. Capitol Reef.

Those 5 parks figure prominently in all Utah tourism promotions and advertising because they are a huge economic driver for the state.

They help much of Southeastern Utah’s local economy. Hatch knows this.

I’m guessing he simply doesn’t give a fuck.

Other possibilities… when it comes to drilling/fracking, he’s a NIMBY - “I’m fine with it as long as it’s not hurting my constituents.” Or he knows that national parks are useful for Utah’s economy and doesn’t want the competition from parks in other states.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:21:08pm

NEW WASHING MACHING AND DRYER ARE INSTALLED!!!!!

now I have to do a lot of laundry

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:21:54pm

re: #137 KGxvi

Ah, yes… the George RR Martin school of writing.

Retconning is also useful, if done right - pick an old random scene and make it way more important than you would have thought originally.

That’s the storyline to Adventure Time. They even turned an animation glitch into a plot point.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:22:15pm

Honestly, though - can you imagine the poor writer who carefully plots out his 5-year story arc, and gets cancelled at mid-first-season? Or who hears that his 5th season, tying everything into a neat package, was so well received that the network wants another season? I guess the latter is preferable.

Speaking of 5-year arcs, “Arrow” has spent its 5 seasons developing Oliver’s character while also showing how he got to where he was at the start of Season 1 via flashback. The season finale brought that up to his rescue, where the show started.

So, will they start doing flashbacks from Season 1? I guess they save money, since the film is already in the can, and they don’t have to have Stephen Amell wear the ‘longhaired Ollie’ wigs….
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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:22:20pm
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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:22:31pm

re: #139 Kragar

Hallowed are the Ori.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:22:42pm

re: #146 nowherenorth2

GET WELL!

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:23:11pm
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Belafon  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:23:20pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

Honestly, though - can you imagine the poor writer who carefully plots out his 5-year story arc, and gets cancelled at mid-first-season? Or who hears that his 5th season, tying everything into a neat package, was so well received that the network wants another season? I guess the latter is preferable.

Speaking of 5-year arcs, “Arrow” has spent its 5 seasons developing Oliver’s character while also showing how he got to where he was at the start of Season 1 via flashback. The season finale brought that up to his rescue, where the show started.

So, will they start doing flashbacks from Season 1? I guess they save money, since the film is already in the can, and they don’t have to have Stephen Amell wear the ‘longhaired Ollie’ wigs….
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Joss Whedon did go on to do bigger things.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:23:57pm

re: #144 KGxvi

Is Bones still on?

That show was weird from a writing perspective because it never seemed like it could figure out if it wanted to be a procedural or a serial.

Yes, and “It’s a floor polish AND a dessert topping!”

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:24:16pm
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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:24:34pm

re: #60 MsJ

I have ground beef that I want to use for dinner and I cannot think of a single thing that sounds good.

Any suggestions?

Hubby and I both are experiencing the meh, nothing sounds good phase of life…which is troubling for someone who loves food, cooking and all that jazz.

doctor up canned spaghetti sauce with spiced ground beef?

make meatballs?

beef stroganoff?

old fashioned hamburgers like Eddy Murphy joked about?

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:25:10pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

“Castle” and “Bones” spring to mind. Any show where the sexual tension between the leads is resolved should probably end with a wedding and a cancellation.

That’s kinda how my life went.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:25:10pm

re: #146 nowherenorth2

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:26:10pm

re: #147 KGxvi

Except that there are people who will make it their ambition to visit all the parks (I count myself in that group), and will still make time to go back and visit their favorites, which includes Zion, Capitol Reef, Muir Woods, and several others that I’ve visited more than once already).

Also, competition hasn’t hurt turnout at the big parks even as new ones are added. It just means there’s far more stuff preserved and saved for posterity.

Not that Hatch gives a crap about any of it.

Oh, and I saw that Zinke was looking to sell off campgrounds in the parks (which is another land/concessions grab).

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:26:38pm

re: #134 KGxvi

Seems like this is common for a lot of shows, particularly in SciFi - where networks always get squeamish about greenlighting more than a season at a time. The nature of TV (at least as it used to exist, streaming may be changing it), is that it allowed shows to meander (even if they were serialized), and suddenly facing an announcement that Season 7 will be the last season, you end up writing that they all really died on the island and that its purgatory or something.*

*Why yes, I am still annoyed by the last season of Lost, why do you ask?

You’re really not going to enjoy anything that happens on Colony then. Writers are feuding, Exec Producer not really engaged, and the whole thing is just flailing.

A lot of this is due to the “Puts” - i.e. how many shows are ordered. When networks would get 22-show Puts, they’d have enough in the bank to pay for a writer to really try to plan out what would happen in a season. That went down to 16 … then 13 … now it’s down to 10 episodes, and very few production companies are willing (or able) to invest time & energy in wireframing out a season.

Exceptions: Marvel and Netflix (although Iron Fist was rushed to fit into production windows)

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:26:57pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:27:38pm

re: #158 Birth Control Works

doctor up canned spaghetti sauce with spiced ground beef?

make meatballs?

beef stroganoff?

old fashioned hamburgers like Eddy Murphy joked about?

When I have a leftover pound of ground beef, I make Faux-lognese Sauce, with bacon and Italian sausage.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:28:17pm

re: #89 Skip Intro

Who knows. Maybe he does want to bring back slavery. He’s just a little ahead of this time.

oh, I think there are quite a few who would bring back slavery. Anyone they hate would be exterminated or used for labor.

It’s a very scary thing.

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Kragar  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:28:38pm

re: #162 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

(although Iron Fist was rushed to fit into production windows)

And it shows

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:28:45pm

re: #163 gocart mozart

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He is a conservative. Denying he is No True Scotsman Conservative territory.

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Citizen K  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:28:53pm
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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:28:58pm

re: #93 nines09

Sort of like when Trump hears “woman” he thinks “pussy”? To be grabbed? Like that?

He’s a Madonna/Whore thinker.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:30:00pm

re: #168 Citizen K

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Okay, raise of hands here, who honestly is surprised?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:30:37pm

re: #169 Birth Control Works

He’s a Madonna/Whore thinker.

Talking to people who grew up in the 50’s, they also told me that back then, there were women you fucked, and then there were women you went steady with.

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KGxvi  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:31:28pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

Honestly, though - can you imagine the poor writer who carefully plots out his 5-year story arc, and gets cancelled at mid-first-season? Or who hears that his 5th season, tying everything into a neat package, was so well received that the network wants another season? I guess the latter is preferable.

Speaking of 5-year arcs, “Arrow” has spent its 5 seasons developing Oliver’s character while also showing how he got to where he was at the start of Season 1 via flashback. The season finale brought that up to his rescue, where the show started.

So, will they start doing flashbacks from Season 1? I guess they save money, since the film is already in the can, and they don’t have to have Stephen Amell wear the ‘longhaired Ollie’ wigs….
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I read that Season 5 was going to be the last season featuring flashbacks. Still working my way through the season on Netflix along with Legends and Supergirl (finished Flash - got caught up in it), but my guess is that Season 6 will focus on the now rather than the then

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:31:35pm

re: #168 Citizen K

Poll: 42% of Trump voters say it’s appropriate to bodyslam a reporter, 45% no. Clinton voters: 6% yes, 89% no.

the fact that a candidate can physically assault a reporter and still get elected shows how much in thrall the GOP is to DT and his aura of immunity to anything he says and does.

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:32:14pm

re: #155 Belafon

Joss Whedon did go on to do bigger things.

Still wistful about the way Firefly got abandoned, though.

Ron Glass used to go to the Buddhist temple down the street from me. Had an absolutely amazing voice & presence. His “Shepherd Book” character was one of his favorites - the scene where he looks up with his mane of hair in a huge wild frizzy afro, totally freaking out River was apparently something he came up with on his own.

Yeah, this would scare me too.
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:33:18pm

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the fact that a candidate can physically assault a reporter and still get elected shows how much in thrall the GOP is to DT and his aura of immunity to anything he says and does.

Well it’s also Montana.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:33:21pm

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the fact that a candidate can physically assault a reporter and still get elected shows how much in thrall the GOP is to DT and his aura of immunity to anything he says and does.

Just remember that 60+% of the vote was in prior to the assault and no do over was permitted. So the result may not be as clear as it seems.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:33:30pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

Okay, raise of hands here, who honestly is surprised?

(raises hand)

I’m still surprised at just how many horrible people are out there. It SHOULD BE surprising that anything like that number of people believe it’s okay for a politician to respond with violence to a reporter doing their job.

I wonder how many of them would have approved of Jesse Watters getting HIS clock cleaned by one of his ambush victims?

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TedStriker  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:33:35pm

re: #144 KGxvi

Is Bones still on?

That show was weird from a writing perspective because it never seemed like it could figure out if it wanted to be a procedural or a serial.

re: #156 Blind Frog Belly White

Yes, and “It’s a floor polish AND a dessert topping!”

Actually, no; Bones wrapped up at the end of March.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:34:50pm

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:34:58pm

re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White

(raises hand)

I’m still surprised at just how many horrible people are out there. It SHOULD BE surprising that anything like that number of people believe it’s okay for a politician to respond with violence to a reporter doing their job.

I wonder how many of them would have approved of Jesse Watters getting HIS clock cleaned by one of his ambush victims?

I guess I’m not too surprised given how Republican voters act.

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KGxvi  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:35:23pm

re: #162 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

You’re really not going to enjoy anything that happens on Colony then. Writers are feuding, Exec Producer not really engaged, and the whole thing is just flailing.

A lot of this is due to the “Puts” - i.e. how many shows are ordered. When networks would get 22-show Puts, they’d have enough in the bank to pay for a writer to really try to plan out what would happen in a season. That went down to 16 … then 13 … now it’s down to 10 episodes, and very few production companies are willing (or able) to invest time & energy in wireframing out a season.

Exceptions: Marvel and Netflix (although Iron Fist was rushed to fit into production windows)

I’m curious to see how it plays out long term for the industry. I’ve not watched Colony, so I’ll take your word on that.

And I’ll be honest, if I were in that situation, I’m not sure how I’d write the shows. I almost feel like you have to treat TV shows like a book series - each season is a novel that can (hopefully) stand on its own, while building a complete story over the course of the entire series. But that’s hard because until you finally say “The End”, you have to leave something open for future story lines.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:35:48pm

re: #172 KGxvi

I read that Season 5 was going to be the last season featuring flashbacks. Still working my way through the season on Netflix along with Legends and Supergirl (finished Flash - got caught up in it), but my guess is that Season 6 will focus on the now rather than the then

I think to a great extent Season 5 was about Ollie facing his character flaws and taking ownership of them, and moving forward.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:36:41pm

re: #127 Barefoot Grin

Oh god, I can’t. I got to the first picture and started to break down again like I did that morning in my little office.

“Kelly was criticized on social media for what some saw as an attempt to normalize Jones and his outlandish and untrue claims. She defended herself by saying President Donald Trump had praised Jones and appeared on his show. She also noted that Jones’ InfoWars was given credibility when the site received White House press credentials.”

Just…FUCK.

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majii  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:37:48pm

re: #36 Stanley Sea

“Also note that Jones unleashed harassment on the parents of these children.”

We also need to remember that a female in Florida was sentenced last week to spend five months in prison for harassing Noah Pozner’s dad and telling him he was “going to die soon.” It was only after she found herself in legal trouble that she brought out the “health issues” defense. She was influenced to harass and threaten Mr. Pozner’s life by believing SH conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones. Jones has never seen an incident he’s unwilling to politicize and convert into a conspiracy theory in order to make a buck.

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:37:53pm

re: #166 Kragar

And it shows

Damn shame. Mostly the fault of pushing too hard to try to come up with a villain that fits into the larger narrative that leads up to The Defenders.

They also couldn’t seem to settle on just how powerful Iron Fist was supposed to be. Is he an amazing super-weapon who can defeat 25 other kung-fu experts at the same time? Or just a guy that you can sneak up on & clock on the back of the head with a pipe & knock out (as in Episode 4)?

They tried to have it both ways. Didn’t work.

Rosario Dawson training to learn how to fight, and cracking wise at the characters was the only thing that made the last few episodes tolerable.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:37:54pm

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s her excuse? REALLY?! Fucking pathetic. Also depressing that that’s all it takes for a source to become mainstream. David Icke next, anyone?

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Kragar  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:38:35pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:38:58pm

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Sir John Barron  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:39:44pm

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

“Kelly was criticized on social media for what some saw as an attempt to normalize Jones and his outlandish and untrue claims. She defended herself by saying President Donald Trump had praised Jones and appeared on his show. She also noted that Jones’ InfoWars was given credibility when the site received White House press credentials.”

Just…FUCK.

Well that’s how it goes. That’s what happens when these guys get press credentials. Then comes the mainstream media TV interview and then…..

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Citizen K  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:39:58pm

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

“Kelly was criticized on social media for what some saw as an attempt to normalize Jones and his outlandish and untrue claims. She defended herself by saying President Donald Trump had praised Jones and appeared on his show. She also noted that Jones’ InfoWars was given credibility when the site received White House press credentials.”

Just…FUCK.

Reminder: we lost Tamron Hall for this bullshit.

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KGxvi  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:40:34pm

re: #182 Blind Frog Belly White

I think to a great extent Season 5 was about Ollie facing his character flaws and taking ownership of them, and moving forward.

That’s what I’ve got too (I’m about 17/18 episodes in). This is a very different Oliver Queen from the one I remember in the comics and cartoons. But also a much more interesting one, too.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:41:07pm

re: #104 Skip Intro

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:42:04pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:42:18pm

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

done.
And I was polite and cuss-free.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:42:46pm
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KGxvi  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:43:45pm

re: #187 Kragar

In fairness, the Johnson and Stein numbers are probably susceptible to sample size biases.

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Citizen K  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:44:02pm

re: #195 Blind Frog Belly White

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scottslemmons  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:45:24pm

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

“Kelly was criticized on social media for what some saw as an attempt to normalize Jones and his outlandish and untrue claims. She defended herself by saying President Donald Trump had praised Jones and appeared on his show. She also noted that Jones’ InfoWars was given credibility when the site received White House press credentials.”

Just…FUCK.

They should just change the name of the show to Megyn Kelly’s Nazi Normalization Hour, since it sounds like she’s going to be devoting a lot of time to interviewing alt-righters.

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DanielKi  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:45:26pm

re: #73 Hecuba’s daughter

Absolutely scary — remember the Constitution originally permitted slavery and prevented women from voting. There is no telling what damage they could do. After all, Nazi Germany did everything by the law.

History pedantry alert from an Actual German (tm): The Nazis had to change the constitution to turn the Weimar Republic into a dictatorship with the Enabling Act of 1933. At this point, the Communist members of the parliament had already been imprisoned. Nazi thugs patrolled the parliament during the vote to intimidate the remaining critical members. Even if you consider the radical change of the constitution legally valid, the way it happened certainly wasn’t.

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piratedan  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:46:23pm

well, there are loads of great sf works out there that could be done, I think most of it is still fertile ground that could be worked if it had the right backing. It’s awesome that SyFy at least picked up The Expanse and is doing it justice (from what I’ve seen). Myself, there are loads of other series and titles that could be expanded upon if someone could be bothered to get the rights and stay true to the source material… While I’ve read a lot of this stuff (and some of it is dear to me, I think on how it could translate to the screen to mention it as being good enough to capture eyeballs)

Just thinking on possibilities for some of the genre’s…

Space Opera - Weber’s Honor Harrington books would probably play fairly well…
Epic Fantasy - Glen Cook’s The Black Company comes to mind as being a cool visual drama
Hard Science - John Ringo’s Citadel books
Fantasy Noir - The Dresden books (surprisingly a lot of candidates here in this genre… Hawk and Fisher, Fafherd and Grey Mouser, Dante Valentine books, The Garrett Mysteries)
Star Trek series type - H. Beam Piper’s Paratime stories
just awesome storytelling - Bujold’s The Vor Books

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:48:33pm

re: #109 Timothy Watson

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:48:51pm
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nines09  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:49:10pm

Here’s a little 4 piece funk blues act you can catch as they roll across America. Caught them last year. Selwyn Birchwood. That baritone sax kills. Nice guys.

Selwyn Birchwood - Addicted - Don Odells Legnds

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Nyet  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:49:15pm

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:49:59pm

re: #200 piratedan

My son suggested the Percy Jackson books. There was just too much stuff that had to be left out to make the movies.

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BeachDem  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:52:05pm

re: #168 Citizen K

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I find it rather disconcerting that anyone thinks it’s appropriate for a politician to body-slam a reporter. Should be 100% no.

What is wrong with people? (rhetorical question)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:52:05pm

re: #178 TedStriker

Actually, no; Bones wrapped up at the end of March.

I took ‘still going on’ to mean “Jesus, didn’t that end a couple years ago?”

Because, really - and I say this as someone who enjoyed it for years* - it should have.

*But what the fuck was up with that stupid way Brennan talked? I know a LOT of people on the spectrum - I’m in Science, remember - and NOBODY TALKS LIKE THAT!!!

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covfefe  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:54:04pm

re: #154 gocart mozart

What about My Sharona?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:54:37pm

re: #204 Nyet

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:57:52pm

re: #65 Skip Intro

From the “Things can always get worse” department,

DeMint eyes ‘new mission’ for Tea Party: Changing the Constitution

thehill.com

As good a grift as any I guess.

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retired cynic  Jun 12, 2017 • 1:59:08pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:02:38pm

re: #210 Eventual Carrion

As good a grift as any I guess.

This has been worrying me for a while, honestly. A number of wingnut have been pushing a Constitutional Convention for years, in with the expectation that their dominance in state legislatures would translate into an outsized voice in the Convention. They’d love to enshrine white privilege in the lConstitution.

The problem is, of course, that any Convention could rewrite the whole thing, much at the current Constitution was written in a Convention convened to modify the Articles Of Confederation.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:02:48pm
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BigPapa  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:02:49pm

Twitter left me a note yesterday saying I was on a 12 hour watch or something.. couldn’t get the page back. Weird.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:03:23pm

jeebus

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:04:28pm

re: #190 Citizen K

Reminder: we lost Tamron Hall for this bullshit.

??? How so?

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:05:21pm

re: #195 Blind Frog Belly White

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:08:40pm

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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OFFS!

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Nyet  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:10:16pm

re: #214 BigPapa

Probably said some rude word. (If you call to put Jews into ovens on the other hand, you’re safe…)

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Citizen K  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:10:25pm

re: #216 MsJ

??? How so?

Megyn Kelly is going to host a new show that’s to replace Hall’s old Today show slot at 9am. It was the straw that broke the camel’s back and led Hall not to pursue a new contract after her deal expired this year

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Decatur Deb  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:12:06pm

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Consider that these men and a few ladies consider themselves Bull-of-the-Woods in their own operating environments. The have to be conscious of a tremendous need, to bolster that buffoon at the cost of their own egos.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:12:15pm
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makeitstop  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:13:08pm

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

“The comments were in keeping with an intense effort by the White House to boost Mr. Trump’s mood.”

In the future we damn well better demand full psychological workups on all presidential candidates - to be released before they can even register for a primary.

No one this psychologically damaged should be let anywhere near the Oval Office.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:13:46pm

re: #221 Decatur Deb

Consider that these men and a few ladies consider themselves Bull-of-the Woods in their own operating environments. The have to be conscious of a tremendous need, to bolster that buffoon at the cost of their own egos.

It’s good that you done that. Real good!
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:15:57pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:16:58pm

re: #223 makeitstop

In the future we damn well better demand full psychological workups on all presidential candidates - to be released before they can even register for a primary.

No one this psychologically damaged should be let anywhere near the Oval Office.

First we would have to develop a requirement and a standard for presidential sanity. The Founding Fathers just assumed an enlightened electorate would keep the idiots in their proper villages.

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BigPapa  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:18:04pm

re: #219 Nyet

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:18:27pm

re: #220 Citizen K

Megyn Kelly is going to host a new show that’s to replace Hall’s old Today show slot at 9am. It was the straw that broke the camel’s back and led Hall not to pursue a new contract after her deal expired this year

On MSNBC?

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Nyet  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:18:52pm

re: #227 BigPapa

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:21:32pm

re: #229 Nyet

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:21:52pm

re: #223 makeitstop

In the future we damn well better demand full psychological workups on all presidential candidates - to be released before they can even register for a primary.

No one this psychologically damaged should be let anywhere near the Oval Office.

No one should be allowed to run if their party will not stand up to them.

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wrenchwench  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:22:49pm

I have a new belt! It’s very nice, maybe the nicest belt I’ve ever had. My ‘burrito buddy’ needed a tire for his bike, saw the belt at ‘the Mission’, thought I would like it, and he swept the WHOLE mission to earn it. I made the swap. We fixed a couple other things on his bike, and he brought me a burrito while I was typing this.

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Citizen K  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:22:56pm

re: #228 MsJ

On MSNBC?

Pretty sure the MSNBC show is part of the same contract.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:24:53pm

re: #232 wrenchwench

I have a new belt! It’s very nice, maybe the nicest belt I’ve ever had. My ‘burrito buddy’ needed a tire for his bike, saw the belt at ‘the Mission’, thought I would like it, and he swept the WHOLE mission to earn it. I made the swap. We fixed a couple other things on his bike, and he brought me a burrito while I was typing this.

How many conchos?

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:27:57pm

Tear down everything

Pruitt’s departure on Sunday was planned, his spokesman Lincoln Ferguson said, and “senior staff” at the agency would remain part of the two-day meeting, which continued on Monday.

His absence was noticed by the other G7 members, which are Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United Kingdom.

Delegates “did express their disappointment and regret” with Pruitt’s departure, Nick Robins, the co-director of the United Nations Environment Inquiry, told CNN.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:30:16pm

re: #235 Stanley Sea

Tear down everything

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He was probably upset that everyone there actually knew what they were talking about. Or maybe he needed to get back in time to fellate Trump in today’s Cabinet meeting?

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:30:58pm
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scottslemmons  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:31:11pm

re: #236 Blind Frog Belly White

He was probably upset that everyone there actually knew what they were talking about. Or maybe he needed to get back in time to fellate Trump in today’s Cabinet meeting?

Putin didn’t want him there any longer.

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wrenchwench  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:33:09pm

re: #234 Decatur Deb

How many conchos?

No conchos, but it’s a Nocona, with an engraved 4 piece buckle set (I learned the lingo fast!) and some weird double system of attached part with the holes and the other part runs under the buckle through its own belt loop. Gotta learn the lingo for that.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:34:01pm

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Decatur Deb  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:36:42pm

re: #239 wrenchwench

Looked them up. Fair trade.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:37:17pm

re: #240 Unshaken Defiance

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makeitstop  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:37:36pm

re: #239 wrenchwench

No conchos, but it’s a Nokona, with an engraved 4 piece buckle set (I learned the lingo fast!) and some weird double system of attached part with the holes and the other part runs under the buckle through its own belt loop. Gotta learn the lingo for that.

I’ve got a pair of Nocona boots. 35 years and they haven’t failed me yet. All they’ve asked is a re-sole every few years. Most comfortable boots I’ve got.

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makeitstop  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:38:17pm

re: #240 Unshaken Defiance

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Timothy Watson  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:38:52pm

re: #139 Kragar

“And now, at the end of 8 seasons, we’ve wrapped up every major story line in Stargate.”

“We got renewed for another 2 seasons.”

“Fuck it. We’ll throw in some King Arthur shit or something.”

Just to get cancelled on the morning after its 200th episode.

Fuck you, Sci-Fi, for that absolute dickmove.

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Nyet  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:39:31pm
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Thank you, everyone.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:39:50pm

re: #245 Timothy Watson

Just to get cancelled on the morning after its 200th episode.

Fuck you, Sci-Fi, for that absolute dickmove.

Sci-Fi has created a lot of amazing stuff. They’ve also done a lot of real boneheaded things.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:41:07pm

re: #240 Unshaken Defiance

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(((you)))

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:41:22pm

re: #240 Unshaken Defiance

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Birth Control Works  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:42:11pm

Yesterday, I figured out how to get my Redbubble store on Google Analytics

Tonite, I’m going to try to figure out how to sell thru Pinterest.

wish me luck.

have to feed the dogs now.

bbl

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:43:29pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:43:57pm

re: #243 makeitstop

I’ve got a pair of Nocona boots. 35 years in that they haven’t failed me yet. All they’ve asked is a re-sole every few years. Most comfortable boots I’ve got.

Thanks, I fixed my misspelling.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:49:08pm

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

“Kelly was criticized on social media for what some saw as an attempt to normalize Jones and his outlandish and untrue claims. She defended herself by saying President Donald Trump had praised Jones and appeared on his show. She also noted that Jones’ InfoWars was given credibility when the site received White House press credentials.”

Just…FUCK.

This makes the interview even worse. If Kelly’s purpose had been to totally discredit Jones, there might have been an argument for airing this segment. But she is basically saying he is a legitimate source whose views must be respected.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:51:46pm

re: #223 makeitstop

In the future we damn well better demand full psychological workups on all presidential candidates - to be released before they can even register for a primary.

No one this psychologically damaged should be let anywhere near the Oval Office.

Perhaps no one who is so psychologically damaged to support Trump should be voting either // (only half)

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:53:59pm

re: #249 Stanley Sea

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:55:09pm

re: #255 Unshaken Defiance

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:57:24pm

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:57:38pm

re: #240 Unshaken Defiance

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darthstar  Jun 12, 2017 • 2:58:35pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:02:36pm

Thanks for the kind wishes folks. This place rocks.

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:04:36pm
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William Lewis  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:06:32pm

re: #240 Unshaken Defiance

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:08:26pm
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retired cynic  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:08:37pm

Charlie Pierce is getting ready to fight:

“…There already are calls for Mueller and Comey to be investigated. It took them six years to get around to demanding that the same be done to Lawrence Walsh.

“This is going to be a long, bloody, and (yes) partisan political fight, and god bless it for that. There are serious constitutional and democratic principles involved here that touch upon what we think we are as a nation. A fight over those things should be long and bloody and partisan. Don’t let the voices of “moderation” and “civility” convince you otherwise. There is no gentle, easy way out of the predator-laden swamp into which we voted ourselves last November. Business is no longer usual.”

He says Gingrich is the point man getting this started.

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:11:47pm
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BigPapa  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:14:36pm

re: #264 retired cynic

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:15:41pm

re: #266 BigPapa

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See Charlie Pierce above.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:17:57pm

re: #261 gocart mozart

I remember some fat couple wearing “FUCK YOUR FEELINGS” t-shirts at one of Trump’s brainwashing gatherings last year.

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BigPapa  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:18:07pm

re: #267 Stanley Sea

See Charlie Pierce above.

Yep, read it earlier today. The Hill article makes his point. Shit gonna get nasty.

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darthstar  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:18:35pm

Chuck Schumer mocked the great orange fucktard as well.

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bratwurst  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:22:27pm
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darthstar  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:26:22pm

re: #271 bratwurst

Two peas in a pod:

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There aren’t enough over the counter antibiotics in Mexico to make that image look appealing.

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:27:22pm

re: #212 Blind Frog Belly White

This has been worrying me for a while, honestly. A number of wingnut have been pushing a Constitutional Convention for years, in with the expectation that their dominance in state legislatures would translate into an outsized voice in the Convention. They’d love to enshrine white privilege in the lConstitution.

The problem is, of course, that any Convention could rewrite the whole thing, much at the current Constitution was written in a Convention convened to modify the Articles Of Confederation.

There’s been big right wing money behind this idea for decades. Now they actually have a chance to do it. By my count there are only six safe states completely controlled by the Dems that would vote against this:

Connecticut
Rhode Island
Delaware
Hawaii
Oregon
California

The GOP has

North Dakota
South Dakota
Wisconsin
Michigan
Idaho
Wyoming
Utah
Arizona
Nebraska
Kansas
Oklahoma
Texas
Iowa
Missouri
Arkansas
Indiana
Ohio
Kentucky
Tennessee
Mississippi
Alabama
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
New Hampshire

They only need nine more for a convention, and 13 more to pass whatever nightmare scenario they come up with.

It’s a little too close for comfort for me.

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calochortus  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:29:12pm

re: #273 Skip Intro

But conservatives would have to agree on the new Constitution’s language. What are the odds of that?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:30:23pm

re: #273 Skip Intro

Illinois is also a safe state.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:30:59pm

re: #274 calochortus

But conservatives would have to agree on the new Constitution’s language. What are the odds of that?

Higher than you might think. Remember, most of them want the same things: No blacks, browns, yellows, Indians, women, or gays. (Or Irish.///) It’s not safe to assume anymore that they would disagree vehemently enough to prevent any progress from occurring. Remember that they shocked the world by electing Trump.

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Nyet  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:31:04pm

re: #266 BigPapa

Very good.

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calochortus  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:34:56pm

re: #276 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Higher than you might think. Remember, most of them want the same things: No blacks, browns, yellows, Indians, women, or gays. (Or Irish.///) It’s not safe to assume anymore that they would disagree vehemently enough to prevent any progress from occurring. Remember that they shocked the world by electing Trump.

I don’t think disgruntled voters electing Trump is a good indication of willingness to overthrow the Constitution they claim to worship in its current form.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:35:52pm

Or maybe, just maybe you could avoid this problem by, say not letting thousands of Americans die?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:36:05pm

You’re going to have lawyers that have donated to Democrats. It’s not Mueller’s fault that a lot of the competent people in a case like this have been Dem donors. Mueller himself is a Republican.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:36:41pm

re: #279 Blind Frog Belly White

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Or maybe, just maybe you could avoid this problem by, say not letting thousands of Americans die?

So maybe the problem isn’t that people will know about oyur bill, it’s that your bill and you suck yourself.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:38:02pm

re: #280 HappyWarrior

You’re going to have lawyers that have donated to Democrats. It’s not Mueller’s fault that a lot of the competent people in a case like this have been Dem donors. Mueller himself is a Republican.

But you see, the only people allowed to investigate Republicans are Republicans. How else is IOKIYAR to be enforced?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:39:01pm

re: #282 Blind Frog Belly White

But you see, the only people allowed to investigate Republicans are Republicans. How else is IOKIYAR to be enforced?

It’s kind of like when the AFA complained about the one judge ruling on Prop-8 was gay. Everyone knew they’d be just fine if a straight Evangelical Christian wre ruling on the matter.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:42:09pm
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BigPapa  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:42:28pm

re: #271 bratwurst

Dammit, made a bad Twitter mistake. Saw a tweet with the pic of Alex Jones and Megyn Kelly that was captioned ‘Worst Car Karaoke Ever’ and did not Like or capture it.

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darthstar  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:43:30pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:44:51pm

re: #251 The Vicious Babushka

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Aw, somebody (kind of) beat my joke… I was telling friends the other day that the intelligence reports given to Trump ask him to connect the dots. LITERALLY. Like a kid’s menu…

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:46:13pm

My profound thought of the week, Tweeted to no one in particular

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:55:20pm

because, god forbid, you actually do something yourself in your position as US Senator, Lindsey…

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 3:59:32pm

Oh go ahead, do it!!

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allegro  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:00:44pm

So I was telling a friend/neighbor how I spent a chunk of the afternoon trying to figure out why I couldn’t turn on my DVD/surround sound system. I checked plugs. I checked the extension cord (once I got it all untangled enough from the spaghetti cable mess that makes following such things a major time-consuming headache). Tore everything apart trying to figure out the problem. No luck. I was like SHIT another system died on me! Grrrrr… snarl… stomp… hisssssss.

Then she asked “did you check the batteries in the remote?”

Oh.

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BeachDem  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:01:07pm

re: #271 bratwurst

Two peas in a pod:

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And IMO the damage is already done, whether they air the fucking interview or not. Everybody already got what they wanted—Megyn—lots of media coverage; Alex—something to be outraged about (he’s now calling for it to be pulled, so if NBC pulls it, he declares victory); NBC—lots of chatter about their newest “star.”

They all make me sick.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:01:39pm

re: #290 Stanley Sea

Oh go ahead, do it!!

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First he came for the FBI Director, and I did not speak out, because I was not a member of the FBI.
Then he came for the special counsel, and I did not speak out, because I was not a member of the judiciary.
Then he came for the House Investigative Committee, and I did not speak out, because I am a partisan little bitch who will suck on Trump’s tiny unit for even the slightest grasp at power.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:04:24pm

Good evening, Folks. It’s summertime(well sorta) here in Wisconsin and that means home improvement projects and whatnot. I spent the afternoon fixing an old tiller my better half borrowed from a workmate that we instantly.. well broke.

Anyhow, I know many of you also are of the fixer-upper persuasion, and being so, have most likely purchased new sockets(or other handy tools) that come in some wonderful ‘theft-proof’ packaging.

So, after struggling for an hour or so, I finally found a trick that frees your purchase from these shackles of security that bind, and I thought I’d pass it along. Enjoy!

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:05:04pm

re: #291 allegro

Girlfriend, this weekend I was scrolling through the channels on my cable guide & it was going soooooo slow. I was like, Spectrum’s on demand set up SUCKS.

For some reason checked the batteries in the remote.

They were corroded!

We live & learn the hard way.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:07:27pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:08:49pm

Floating the idea

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:09:23pm

A new 4-part season of Luther! Idris rocks!

vulture.com

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:09:46pm

re: #297 Stanley Sea

Every rightwing nutcase has full access to Trump.

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SteelPH  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:09:50pm

re: #279 Blind Frog Belly White

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Or maybe, just maybe you could avoid this problem by, say not letting thousands of Americans die?

But but, the tax cuts! THE TAX CUUUUUTS!!!11TY

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:11:37pm

re: #298 MsJ

A new 4-part season of Luther! Idris rocks!

vulture.com

Sorry, but for me, no Alice = no Luther.

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BeachDem  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:12:06pm

And in case anyone was wondering if Gianforte’s “contrition” was genuine:

In his court statement on Monday, Gianforte initially declined to admit that he directly caused Jacobs injuries, saying: “In the scuffle, we fell to the floor, and I understand his elbow was injured.” When the judge asked if he caused injury, Gianforte replied: “I understand bodily injury resulted.”

Pressed on the question, Gianforte eventually admitted that he was the cause of Jacobs’ injuries.
theguardian.com

I understand bodily injury resulted.
I understand bodily injury resulted.

Like the tides, you just can’t explain how that could have happened…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:15:46pm

re: #290 Stanley Sea

Oh go ahead, do it!!

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He can’t do it directly. He can direct Rosenstein to fire him. Then Rosenstein has do decide whether his job is worth his soul, or if he’ll take the path of Richardson and Ruckelshaus.

And then the GOP has to decide whether tax cuts are still worth what’s left of their souls.

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:16:46pm

re: #247 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Sci-Fi has created a lot of amazing stuff. They’ve also done a lot of real boneheaded things.

Top management there is basically schizo.

There are some people who are real s-f fans, who find and build great content into series.

Then there are those with the instincts of total schlockmeisters, who foist “Manskito” and “Sharknado” on us.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:19:10pm

AAAAARRRGHHHHH!

[Can’t find this tweet right now: mobile.twitter.com ]

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:19:19pm

re: #299 Skip Intro

Every rightwing nutcase has full access to Trump.

And he’s listening to all of them, and they’re all telling him to drive the bus over the cliff.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:20:47pm

re: #305 MsJ

AAAAARRRGHHHHH!

[Can’t find this tweet right now: mobile.twitter.com ]

He deleted it.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:26:33pm

Good lord. I made the mistake of googling men’s underwear for my husband and now every AdChoice everywhere is showing me men’s skivvies.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:29:32pm

re: #308 MsJ

Good lord. I made the mistake of googling men’s underwear for my husband and now every AdChoice everywhere is showing me men’s skivvies.

And that’s why I shop in private mode.

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TedStriker  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:33:50pm

re: #308 MsJ

Good lord. I made the mistake of googling men’s underwear for my husband and now every AdChoice everywhere is showing me men’s skivvies.

What, you don’t want to wear underwear with dickholes in them?

///

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(Bert the Turtle)  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:34:00pm

re: #308 MsJ

Good lord. I made the mistake of googling men’s underwear for my husband and now every AdChoice everywhere is showing me men’s skivvies.

Really? That’s the first thing I do every morning while the coffee is a brewin’. That and how to clean dead vermin out of a drywall enclosed wall.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:34:04pm

Dim Hoft has been denied WH press credentials.

thedailybeast.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:36:55pm

re: #312 MsJ

Well, finally a bit of good news.

Until Megyn Kelly puts him on NBC.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:36:59pm

re: #303 Blind Frog Belly White

He can’t do it directly. He can direct Rosenstein to fire him. Then Rosenstein has do decide whether his job is worth his soul, or if he’ll take the path of Richardson and Ruckelshaus.

And then the GOP has to decide whether tax cuts are still worth what’s left of their souls.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:37:18pm

re: #312 MsJ

Dim Hoft has been denied WH press credentials.

thedailybeast.com

Haw haw

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:37:46pm

re: #308 MsJ

Good lord. I made the mistake of googling men’s underwear for my husband and now every AdChoice everywhere is showing me men’s skivvies.

I had that happen with cars. I idly considered replacing the Challenger with something with 4 doors, like the Chrysler 300. Next thing I know, I’m seeing Car Gurus listings for Chryslers.

One was for a 1964 New Yorker, which looked kinda cool, so I clicked on it. Ended up looking at Chrysler New Yorkers from the mid-1970s. Ginormous things! I think they may have been the zenith of the American Land Yacht. The pictures were amazing - there was one in Burgundy, with matching vinyl top, and red velour upholstery. Looked like a goddam rolling whorehouse! Huge over-stuffed, button-tufted seats, acres of the red velour!

On a whim, I looked up the specs for a 1978 Chrysler New Yorker. Biggest engine was a 440 with a 4 bbl carb. 192 bhp. 10 mpg combined EPA gas mileage (“City” was about 6.8 mpg). Top speed - 105 mph.

5 years into the Oil Shortage Era, and Chrysler was still making them big, slow, and thirsty. At least in 1970 when you got 10 mpg, you had nearly 400 hp!

Anyway, it was a reminder of just how terrible cars used to be, though if I have a lot of money to spare and enough space for a garage, such a car in good condition might be fun to own and drive occasionally…. But I think I’ll stick with watches.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:38:09pm

re: #314 Stanley Sea

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Go ahead Donald, that’ll exonerate you even more!//

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:38:56pm

re: #314 Stanley Sea

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:40:00pm

re: #316 Blind Frog Belly White

Chrysler, Cadillac, and Lincoln all had the same trend going. Lincoln was the last to downsize, in 1980. Mrs. Fish’s 1979 land yacht could rightly be called one of the last of the dinosaurs.

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TedStriker  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:40:31pm

re: #318 MsJ

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Because Schiff knows the GOP’s asses are on the line.

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wrenchwench  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:40:56pm

re: #316 Blind Frog Belly White

I took in a 1963 Raleigh today, to sell on consignment. Infinite miles per gallon, and only $100!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:42:36pm

re: #304 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

Top management there is basically schizo.

There are some people who are real s-f fans, who find and build great content into series.

Then there are those with the instincts of total schlockmeisters, who foist “Manskito” and “Sharknado” on us.

Ugh, don’t even get me started on Sharknado. It was a so-bad-it’s-good fluke that they tried to squeeze for more dollars. The problem was, the original wasn’t actually good, so there was nothing there to squeeze.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:42:43pm
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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:44:58pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:46:58pm

re: #240 Unshaken Defiance

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:46:58pm

re: #322 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ugh, don’t even get me started on Sharknado. It was a so-bad-it’s-good fluke that they tried to squeeze for more dollars. The problem was, the original wasn’t actually good, so there was nothing there to squeeze.

I never knew Shark Week was, well, what it is. I thought it was a week of bad movies like Sharknado. I was pleased when I discovered it wasn’t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:47:12pm
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makeitstop  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:48:26pm

re: #323 Stanley Sea

Sen. Al Franken just said on @hardball that evidence of a potential third meeting between Kislyak and Sessions includes intercepted coms.

Good. No ‘He said, he said’ on this one.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:49:03pm

re: #319 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Chrysler, Cadillac, and Lincoln all had the same trend going. Lincoln was the last to downsize, in 1980. Mrs. Fish’s 1979 land yacht could rightly be called one of the last of the dinosaurs.

The New Yorker still echoed Chrysler’s oddball Imperial styling. Check out the rear seat windows and the tail lights.

THAR SHE BLOWS!!!

Personally, I’m a big fan of the 1961-1963 Imperials, with the headlights on stalks. Wildly overdone!

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:50:00pm

re: #323 Stanley Sea

Oh the replies. Don’t read em.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:51:54pm

re: #321 wrenchwench

I took in a 1963 Raleigh today, to sell on consignment. Infinite miles per gallon, and only $100!

Hey, my 1995 Ritchey Road Logic with 7410 Dura Ace is practically an antique nowadays!

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:54:33pm

re: #303 Blind Frog Belly White

He can’t do it directly. He can direct Rosenstein to fire him. Then Rosenstein has do decide whether his job is worth his soul, or if he’ll take the path of Richardson and Ruckelshaus.

And then the GOP has to decide whether tax cuts are still worth what’s left of their souls.

There’s nothing left of their souls or integrity so tax cuts it is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:55:11pm

re: #329 Blind Frog Belly White

jeebus…I had totally forgotten about those really cool rear side marker lights!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:55:24pm

You would think I wouldn’t have to relearn it every time but 10 miles is a long run and then I am tired afterwards.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:56:21pm

re: #334 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You would think I wouldn’t have to relearn it every time but 10 miles is a long run and then I am tired afterwards.

Did you ever get your programming issue worked out?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:56:23pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…I had totally forgotten about those really cool rear side marker lights!

They needed them - there’s at least 6 more feet of car behind the rear axle!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:57:11pm

re: #329 Blind Frog Belly White

The New Yorker still echoed Chrysler’s oddball Imperial styling. Check out the rear seat windows and the tail lights.

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Personally, I’m a big fan of the 1961-1963 Imperials, with the headlights on stalks. Wildly overdone!

I like the headlight doors on Mrs. Fish’s Lincoln. It’s a unique feature that makes me chuckle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:57:27pm

re: #336 Blind Frog Belly White

They needed them - there’s at least 6 more feet of car behind the rear axle!

fer realz!

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TedStriker  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:59:03pm

re: #336 Blind Frog Belly White

They needed them - there’s at least 6 more feet of car behind the rear axle!

Hey, there’s enough room in that trunk for three or four dead bodies!

/sorta

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 12, 2017 • 4:59:32pm

re: #335 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Did you ever get your programming issue worked out?

Who knows? I couldn’t get the problem reproduced, so I tweaked the sort function to be a little more clear/explicit and pushed the update with an e-mail to the person who reported it asking her to let me know if it worked and if it did, to please send me a copy of her exported stash so I could figure out exactly what was causing the issue and verify that my fix will cover it in the future.

Crickets since then.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:00:58pm

re: #340 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Who knows? I couldn’t get the problem reproduced, so I tweaked the sort function to be a little more clear/explicit and pushed the update with an e-mail to the person who reported it asking her to let me know if it worked and if it did, to please send me a copy of her exported stash so I could figure out exactly what was causing the issue and verify that my fix will cover it in the future.

Crickets since then.

Even if it didn’t, I would’ve asked for the stash. Un-reproducible bugs are the bane of my existence right now, and we’re working on a process for nailing down exactly what information we have to have in order to even consider trying to reproduce a bug. It’s not fair for us to ask our dev team to try to reproduce a bug that says nothing more than, “App crashes.”

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:01:57pm

re: #329 Blind Frog Belly White

The New Yorker still echoed Chrysler’s oddball Imperial styling. Check out the rear seat windows and the tail lights.

[Embedded content]

Personally, I’m a big fan of the 1961-1963 Imperials, with the headlights on stalks. Wildly overdone!

OK, here’s a question I’ve always had.

Why on these old cars does the tail light section split & separate from the tail end.

You know what I mean? I can’t find a pix.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:03:10pm

Thread:

Ends with:

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ObserverArt  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:03:54pm

re: #317 HappyWarrior

Go ahead Donald, that’ll exonerate you even more!//

A case where we see if Trump’s arrogance and self-centered thinking can get his ass in the very same downfall as Nixon.

He is going to ignore history because he thinks he can and he can probably tell you why Nixon didn’t do the right things to avoid having to resign or face impeachment.

Damn, reading these threads trying to catch up sometimes just gets hard to do. So much insanity anymore all over and it just weighs you down. There is almost too much to wrap your head around today.

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meteor  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:06:38pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:06:39pm

re: #339 TedStriker

Hey, there’s enough room in that trunk for three or four dead bodies!

/sorta

Mom used to drive a ~1970 Pontiac, then finally got a car designed for people her size (4’11”) - a Subaru wagon.

Dad kept the Pontiac for its capacious trunk, which he used the way some folks use a pickup truck.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:11:21pm

The only reason Trump isn’t out of office already is the lack of a reasonable mechanism to remove him.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:11:25pm

re: #341 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Even if it didn’t, I would’ve asked for the stash. Un-reproducible bugs are the bane of my existence right now, and we’re working on a process for nailing down exactly what information we have to have in order to even consider trying to reproduce a bug. It’s not fair for us to ask our dev team to try to reproduce a bug that says nothing more than, “App crashes.”

Ah, well, if I can’t fix the bug she can’t export the stash. Or load the app at all. So.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:12:28pm

re: #347 Eclectic Cyborg

The only reason Trump isn’t out of office already is the lack of a reasonable mechanism to remove him.

The majority party are a bunch of cowardly assholes too.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:15:00pm

re: #344 ObserverArt

A case where we see if Trump’s arrogance and self-centered thinking can get his ass in the very same downfall as Nixon.

He is going to ignore history because he thinks he can and he can probably tell you why Nixon didn’t do the right things to avoid having to resign or face impeachment.

Damn, reading these threads trying to catch up sometimes just gets hard to do. So much insanity anymore all over and it just weighs you down. There is almost too much to wrap your head around today.

Unless the Republican House members suddenly develop a sense of ethics, not gonna happen. Nixon would never have been faced with impeachment if Republicans ran the House back then — and those Republicans actually had some level of morality. These Republicans today are craven or sociopaths or traitors — or all 3.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:16:36pm

re: #347 Eclectic Cyborg

The only reason Trump isn’t out of office already is the lack of a reasonable mechanism to remove him.

Yeah. They’re called Republicans who could care less about their country. I’m honestly thinking there really are a bunch of compromised Republicans working for Russia.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:17:05pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:17:18pm

re: #347 Eclectic Cyborg

The only reason Trump isn’t out of office already is the lack of a reasonable mechanism to remove him.

Ejector seat built into his desk chair.

Trap door on Air Force One.

Airport rolling stairs that turn into a ramp into a dumpster.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:18:02pm

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:18:33pm

re: #352 goddamnedfrank

Trump’s been out of the spotlight since this mornings cabinet circle jerk. He needed to do something to get the attention back on him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:18:52pm

re: #344 ObserverArt

A case where we see if Trump’s arrogance and self-centered thinking can get his ass in the very same downfall as Nixon.

He is going to ignore history because he thinks he can and he can probably tell you why Nixon didn’t do the right things to avoid having to resign or face impeachment.

Damn, reading these threads trying to catch up sometimes just gets hard to do. So much insanity anymore all over and it just weighs you down. There is almost too much to wrap your head around today.

It’s like Nixon and Watergate, but on speed.

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:19:57pm

re: #356 Blind Frog Belly White

Nixon wasn’t stupid. Trump is the definition of stupid.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:21:45pm

re: #357 Skip Intro

Nixon wasn’t stupid. Trump is the definition of stupid.

Nixon was paranoid- Trump is both paranoid and stupid.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:21:54pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:22:31pm

re: #354 A Mom Anon

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:22:32pm

re: #356 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s like Nixon and Watergate, but on speed.

Meth. Definitely meth.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:23:27pm

Supposedly, one reason Trump fired Comey was that he convinced himself, with Jared’s help, that it would have bipartisan support, given how angry Dems were at Comey after the October announcement.

Pretty sure nobody’d telling Trump this’ll be like that.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:23:44pm

re: #359 MsJ

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She’s going to regret normalizing that asshole.

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:23:52pm

re: #361 MsJ

I’ve always assumed meth was Kellyanne’s drug of choice.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:24:12pm

re: #361 MsJ

Meth. Definitely meth.

(Ahem…) Meth is speed.

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:24:25pm

re: #363 HappyWarrior

She’s going to regret normalizing that asshole.

I sure hope so. She’d be a better fit at Russia Today anyway.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:24:35pm

re: #363 HappyWarrior

She’s going to regret normalizing that asshole.

Yeah, well, I’ve been saying the same of Trump, but Jones hasn’t turned on him yet. I’m really waiting for the other shoe to drop because again, at his core, Jones is an anti-government wackadoodle, but I’m wondering at what point it becomes a deal with the devil that he intends to uphold.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:24:55pm

re: #286 darthstar

The Trump administration bears more and more resemblance to North Korea with each passing day.

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b.d.  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:25:09pm

re: #361 MsJ

Meth. Definitely meth.

bath salts and 12 year old Trump steaks….

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b.d.  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:26:04pm

re: #368 Romantic Heretic

The Trump administration bears more and more resemblance to North Korea with each passing day.

Less nepotism in North Korea

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:26:06pm

Another lesson in “The enemy of my enemy is probably also an asshole.”

Gotta love that last one - totally fucking REEKS of privilege!

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:27:21pm

re: #362 Blind Frog Belly White

Supposedly, one reason Trump fired Comey was that he convinced himself, with Jared’s help, that it would have bipartisan support, given how angry Dems were at Comey after the October announcement.

Pretty sure nobody’d telling Trump this’ll be like that.

Bannon, representing the base.

Maybe.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:28:33pm

re: #364 Skip Intro

I’ve always assumed meth was Kellyanne’s drug of choice.

She does have that look. Seeing that she’s several years younger than me… She had some really rough years.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:28:35pm

re: #372 Stanley Sea

Bannon, representing the base.

Maybe.

My understanding is that Bannon opposed it, at least until the decision was made.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:29:00pm

Video capturing today’s Cabinet meeting

YouTube

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BigPapa  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:29:03pm

re: #352 goddamnedfrank

Trump is that stupid.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:29:53pm

re: #365 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

(Ahem…) Meth is speed.

Meth to me is powder that’s made in somebody’s home lab. Speed is sold at the drug store via a prescription.

But, hey, I don’t do either so what do I know? 😎

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calochortus  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:30:06pm

re: #362 Blind Frog Belly White

Speaking of Jared Kushner, he certainly seems to have dropped out of the news, doesn’t he?

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Jenner7  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:31:20pm

Do you think this news has to do with AG Sessions testifying tomorrow?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:31:56pm

county just SW of Anymouse:

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darthstar  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:32:20pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:33:00pm

re: #378 calochortus

Speaking of Jared Kushner, he certainly seems to have dropped out of the news, doesn’t he?

The noose is tightening. It’s public knowledge that he lied on his SF86, omitting contacts with people you’re unlikely to forget having met, plus the whole ‘sister selling visas’ thing. He’s a prime guy to squeeze and flip.

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calochortus  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:33:01pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

county just SW of Anymouse:

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Well, that looks ugly. Hope Anymouse stays safe.

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calochortus  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:33:48pm

re: #382 Blind Frog Belly White

The noose is tightening. It’s public knowledge that he lied on his SF86, omitting contacts with people you’re unlikely to forget having met, plus the whole ‘sister selling visas’ thing. He’s a prime guy to squeeze and flip.

And I’m OK with that. ;)

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:35:06pm

re: #374 Blind Frog Belly White

My understanding is that Bannon opposed it, at least until the decision was made.

I’m thinking about the new dilemma - firing Mueller.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:35:36pm

I half-way expect to see Kellyanne take this path.

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Kragar  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:36:01pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:36:01pm

re: #378 calochortus

Speaking of Jared Kushner, he certainly seems to have dropped out of the news, doesn’t he?

He was sitting behind the yam today at the Dear Leader event.

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freetoken  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:36:30pm

You can only fire a civil servant for cause. Which means you have to identify that cause, which I highly doubt Trump has done.

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calochortus  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:37:11pm

re: #388 Stanley Sea

He was sitting behind the yam today at the Dear Leader event.

Must have missed that. I guess he has spare time now that he’s brought peace to the Middle East.

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BigPapa  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:38:16pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:38:49pm

re: #389 freetoken

You can only fire a civil servant for cause. Which means you have to identify that cause, which I highly doubt Trump has done.

Well, of course there’s cause. He’s investigating Trump’s lackeys, what more cause do you need?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:39:31pm

It’s kind of funny when people who live in Tornado Alley tell Californians they’d be afraid of earthquakes.

Once a big earthquake hits, and the aftershocks die down, your likelihood of getting another drops a whole lot. A tornado can hit you today, and then another can come by tomorrow and hit you again. Next week. Next month. Next year. Unlike an earthquake, being struck with one doesn’t in any way diminish your chances of being hit again repeatedly.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:41:08pm

re: #393 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s kind of funny when people who live in Tornado Alley tell Californians they’d be afraid of earthquakes.

Once a big earthquake hits, and the aftershocks die down, your likelihood of getting another drops a whole lot. A tornado can hit you today, and then another can come by tomorrow and hit you again. Next week. Next month. Next year. Unlike an earthquake, being struck with one doesn’t in any way diminish your chances of being hit again repeatedly.

Contrariwise, people who live in hurricane country are like, “Yeah, but earthquakes and tornadoes can strike you without warning. At least a hurricane generally has enough advance notice that you can GTFO unless you’re stupid or unable.”

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b.d.  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:41:19pm

re: #391 BigPapa

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trump firing Mueller, at this point, would be like a filmed criminal ripping the security camera off of the wall.

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Jenner7  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:41:26pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:42:42pm

re: #396 Jenner7

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But he was at the West Wing today.

So….

They’re playing with us again. The yam’s watching CNN.

Reality TV.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:45:18pm

re: #389 freetoken

You can only fire a civil servant for cause. Which means you have to identify that cause, which I highly doubt Trump has done.

Per Neal Katyal, who wrote the regulations, Trump can direct Deputy AG Rosenstein to fire Mueller, or he can order the regulations abolished and do it himself.

In either case, the constitutional crisis jumps to full rolling boil.

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:45:35pm

re: #378 calochortus

Speaking of Jared Kushner, he certainly seems to have dropped out of the news, doesn’t he?

He was sitting with Bannon at the Trump cabinet love fest today.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:45:42pm

Gah!

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calochortus  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:46:27pm

re: #398 BigPapa

Well, isn’t that just lovely.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:47:09pm
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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:47:54pm

re: #397 Stanley Sea

But he was at the West Wing today.

So….

They’re playing with us again. The yam’s watching CNN.

Reality TV.

I think this whole firing Muller thing is bullshit put out by bullshit artists.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:48:07pm

re: #403 Charles Johnson

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In other news, Water Is Wet.

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BigPapa  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:49:38pm

Hey Lizards, howza yah Monday?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:50:56pm

re: #406 BigPapa

Hey Lizards, howza yah Monday?

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Well, not THAT bad.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:51:24pm

re: #403 Charles Johnson

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Interesting Times  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:51:58pm

re: #371 Blind Frog Belly White

Another lesson in “The enemy of my enemy is probably also an asshole.”

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Gotta love that last one - totally fucking REEKS of privilege!

Here’s the original tweet Tom Nichols was responding to:

Consider that in light of this:

Now the second tweet may be exaggeration, but nonetheless, why the hell wasn’t more of that billion spent on combating voter suppression?? (even so little as targeted ads to educate people about how to overcome it?) GOPer voter suppression laws killed black turnout in the swing states HRC ended up losing (e.g. MI, WI).

Want to win elections in this current catastrophuck? To paraphrase a famous Bill Clinton campaign manager, “It’s the GOTV, stupid.”

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BeachDem  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:52:06pm

re: #363 HappyWarrior

She’s going to regret normalizing that asshole.

I don’t think she is—she’s getting exactly what she wanted. A lot of buzz for her new gig. And if NBC pulls the segment, she can play both sides against the middle—about how “fearless” she was to go where nobody else would, and how she’s so provocative, etc.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:52:15pm

re: #403 Charles Johnson

They’re willfully stupid and gullible; that is, evil.

412
makeitstop  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:52:21pm

re: #361 MsJ

Meth. Definitely meth.

Bath salts and meth.

413
FormerDirtDart  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:52:46pm

OK, who saw that coming?

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BeachDem  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:54:59pm

re: #371 Blind Frog Belly White

Another lesson in “The enemy of my enemy is probably also an asshole.”

[Embedded content]

Gotta love that last one - totally fucking REEKS of privilege!

I thought Ana Navaro was the closest of an Republican turning until she expressed her admiration for Paul Ryan and lamented how sad it is that he’s been put in such an untenable position.

NOPE

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 12, 2017 • 5:55:09pm

re: #403 Charles Johnson

And the most desperate to feel special.

Hence why they’ll completely flip what they believe and not notice the transition. It’s all about the emotional validity.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:00:08pm

re: #413 FormerDirtDart

OK, who saw that coming?

[Embedded content]

JP Morgan has been a favorite target of right-wing conspira-liars at least since the time of Father Coughlin. A big part of their corporate security budget goes to countering potential violence by conspiracy addled loons. They probably took one look at this and said, “Oh hell no.”

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:00:20pm
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nowherenorth2  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:01:19pm

You think I am exaggerating. I am not. Here’s what White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus said about Trump: “We thank you for the opportunity and blessing to serve your agenda.”

From Chris cilliza about the cabinet meeting. Where is the gop outrage?
Crickets

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:01:50pm

re: #417 Scottish Dragon

[Embedded content]

“That’s ‘expert’ dick, to you!”

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:02:44pm

If you were thinking about getting a new HDMI cable, don’t settle for the garbage they sell at Best Buy. Try this (reviews very helpful):

amazon.com

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meteor  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:03:10pm
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Weaselone  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:04:47pm

re: #419 Barefoot Grin

“That’s ‘expert’ dick, to you!”

As was noted in the response, he’s also guilty of doing the same exact thing that he wrote a whole book about. Expert’s say voter suppression is a big deal, but his response “get a damn ID”.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:09:48pm

re: #420 Barefoot Grin

If you were thinking about getting a new HDMI cable, don’t settle for the garbage they sell at Best Buy. Try this (reviews very helpful):

amazon.com

I’m legit confused. Are they actually trying to sell that item?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:10:36pm

re: #420 Barefoot Grin

If you were thinking about getting a new HDMI cable, don’t settle for the garbage they sell at Best Buy. Try this (reviews very helpful):

amazon.com

Okay the free shipping does it. ///

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:11:39pm

re: #422 Weaselone

As was noted in the response, he’s also guilty of doing the same exact thing that he wrote a whole book about. Expert’s say voter suppression is a big deal, but his response “get a damn ID”.

The ‘Not A Dick’ response is:

1. Yes, Voter ID is unnecessary, and is intended to suppress voting by traditionally Democratic voters.

2. Yes, you should fight it in the legislatures and in the courts. But…

3. you should also accept that you might not be able to change it by 2018, and so the Democrats need to invest money, time, and effort in proactively seeking out voters to help them obtain IDs.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:14:47pm

re: #422 Weaselone

As was noted in the response, he’s also guilty of doing the same exact thing that he wrote a whole book about. Expert’s say voter suppression is a big deal, but his response “get a damn ID”.

Yeah, he’s really an asshole, too. He spends a hefty chunk of his book bitching about entitled college students thinking their uninformed opinions are as valid as their professors’ informed ones, but really the biggest problem with the rejection of expertise is his own team actively pushing alternate facts and conspiracy theories.

But, you know, some liberals in Marin County didn’t vaccinate their kids, so, you know, both sides.

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Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:17:26pm

re: #424 Unshaken Defiance

I love Amazon reviews.

“After the purchase my wife left me. That’s why I gave it five stars”.

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teleskiguy  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:21:06pm

Happy Birthday Rightwingconspirator!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:21:24pm
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Kragar  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:22:03pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:23:27pm

re: #426 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, he’s really an asshole, too. He spends a hefty chunk of his book bitching about entitled college students thinking their uninformed opinions are as valid as their professors’ informed ones, but really the biggest problem with the rejection of expertise is his own team actively pushing alternate facts and conspiracy theories.

But, you know, some liberals in Marin County didn’t vaccinate their kids, so, you know, both sides.

Oh, and he’s one of these guys who believes there’s One True Answer. E.g., when HRC correctly pointed out that the Comey letter dropped her 3% in the polls, from 6% lead to the 3% lead she eventually finished with, he said the letter didn’t stop her going to Wisconsin. And the Podesta email leaks didn’t stop her going to Wisconsin. And Voter ID didn’t stop her going to Wisconsin.

For a guy who claims to be an expert, he sure does like to ignore data. Indeed, he LOVES to pontificate in areas where he’s NOT an expert, ignoring the expert opinion when it differs from his own, exactly like he correctly points out too many Americans do.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:23:35pm
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retired cynic  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:23:42pm

re: #430 Kragar

Too bad there wasn’t a fan on along with the photographers.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:24:36pm

re: #420 Barefoot Grin

If you were thinking about getting a new HDMI cable, don’t settle for the garbage they sell at Best Buy. Try this (reviews very helpful):

amazon.com

I think this bit might have been my favorite:

Your cost could be $10,450.00 instead of $10,500.00! Get a $50 amazon.com Gift Card instantly upon approval for the Amazon Rewards Visa Card Apply now

435
PhillyPretzel  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:24:41pm

re: #423 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It looks like that. For HDMI cable I will go with amazon basics.
amazon.com

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:25:06pm

They didn’t support him because they know him from NYC.

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stpaulbear  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:25:18pm

re: #420 Barefoot Grin

If you were thinking about getting a new HDMI cable, don’t settle for the garbage they sell at Best Buy. Try this (reviews very helpful):

amazon.com

Heck, I can get an HDMI cable for a little over $1600. Four feet longer too.

The Indulgence Series of HDMI Cables

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Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:27:48pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:30:02pm

re: #423 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m legit confused. Are they actually trying to sell that item?

Yes. A FB friend who runs a studio and teaches recording in Nashville was having a hoot about it with some of his engineer friends.

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:31:15pm

re: #423 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m legit confused. Are they actually trying to sell that item?

It’s a third party seller, but yes.

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caseyjr  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:31:16pm

re: #301 Blind Frog Belly White

Alice can’t be dead, I don’t believe it. Anywho, time to rewatch season 1 &2.

442
Barefoot Grin  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:32:40pm

re: #437 stpaulbear

Heck, I can get an HDMI cable for a little over $1600. Four feet longer too.

The Indulgence Series of HDMI Cables

Now I guess if you spend $50K on speakers and more on other parts of the system you might be able to convince yourself that $10,500 cable is worth it. I’d think what you posted would do. But I have no idea. I just thought the comments were funny.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:32:51pm

re: #441 caseyjr

Alice can’t be dead, I don’t believe it. Anywho, time to rewatch season 1 &2.

You gotta love a show that makes you root for the sociopath and the cop to end up together.

444
stpaulbear  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:33:19pm

re: #423 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m legit confused. Are they actually trying to sell that item?

They only have to sell one of them.

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stpaulbear  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:34:37pm

re: #442 Barefoot Grin

Now I guess if you spend $50K on speakers and more on other parts of the system you might be able to convince yourself that $10,500 cable is worth it. I’d think what you posted would do. But I have no idea. I just thought the comments were funny.

I was snarking. The comments are funny.

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Interesting Times  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:36:14pm

re: #437 stpaulbear

Heck, I can get an HDMI cable for a little over $1600. Four feet longer too.

The Indulgence Series of HDMI Cables

Meanwhile…

Why all HDMI cables are the same

More important to our discussion, it means that when something goes wrong, it goes really wrong. It’s often said that with an HDMI signal, you either get everything and it’s perfect, or it isn’t perfect and you get nothing. In fact, I’ve said this. If you’re getting an image that looks correct, and there are no dropouts in the audio or video, then you’re getting everything that’s being sent. If the cable is faulty, or it’s a really long run with an under-built cable, most of the time you’ll just get nothing. No picture at all.

In order for one HDMI cable to have “better picture quality” than another, it would imply that the final result between the source and display could somehow be different. It’s not possible. It’s either everything that was sent, or full of very visible errors (sparkles). The image cannot have more noise, or less resolution, worse color, or any other picture-quality difference. The pixels can’t change. They can either be there (perfect, yay!) or not (nothing, errors, boo!).

No matter what, though, there is absolutely no picture or sound quality difference between a $3.50 cable and a $1,000 cable.

447
Charles Johnson  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:36:57pm
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caseyjr  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:37:47pm

re: #316 Blind Frog Belly White

I had that happen with cars. I idly considered replacing the Challenger with something with 4 doors, like the Chrysler 300. Next thing I know, I’m seeing Car Gurus listings for Chryslers.

One was for a 1964 New Yorker, which looked kinda cool, so I clicked on it. Ended up looking at Chrysler New Yorkers from the mid-1970s. Ginormous things! I think they may have been the zenith of the American Land Yacht. The pictures were amazing - there was one in Burgundy, with matching vinyl top, and red velour upholstery. Looked like a goddam rolling whorehouse! Huge over-stuffed, button-tufted seats, acres of the red velour!

On a whim, I looked up the specs for a 1978 Chrysler New Yorker. Biggest engine was a 440 with a 4 bbl carb. 192 bhp. 10 mpg combined EPA gas mileage (“City” was about 6.8 mpg). Top speed - 105 mph.

5 years into the Oil Shortage Era, and Chrysler was still making them big, slow, and thirsty. At least in 1970 when you got 10 mpg, you had nearly 400 hp!

Anyway, it was a reminder of just how terrible cars used to be, though if I have a lot of money to spare and enough space for a garage, such a car in good condition might be fun to own and drive occasionally…. But I think I’ll stick with watches.

This was my Olds 98, 455, hi-compression, 4bbl, 365 hp, 525 ft.lbs., turnpike cruiser rear ratio. On a 200 mile trip through PA, she used 8 gallons @ 55mph. that’s 24MPG

449
HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:41:01pm

re: #430 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Always thought Norris was an asshole.

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caseyjr  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:42:08pm

re: #342 Stanley Sea

OK, here’s a question I’ve always had.

Why on these old cars does the tail light section split & separate from the tail end.

You know what I mean? I can’t find a pix.

There originally were painted rubber gap-fillers between the sheet metal and the bumpers; this as a result of the energy-absorbing bumper requirements from 75 onward. They dry out and crumble, and are basically unavailable parts.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:42:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:42:50pm

re: #436 Stanley Sea

They didn’t support him because they know him from NYC.

[Embedded content]

That’s a damn good question.

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MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:44:34pm

re: #440 Belafon

It’s a third party seller, but yes.

There’s an actual verified purchase. Wow.

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caseyjr  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:44:54pm

re: #443 Blind Frog Belly White

You gotta love a show that makes you root for the sociopath and the cop to end up together.

Alice and her Jensen Interceptor!!(?)

455
BeachDem  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:45:05pm

re: #417 Scottish Dragon

[Embedded content]

I’ve heard stories from people here who don’t HAVE a birth certificate. Home births back in the days. And they’ve been denied ID before. And there’s the closing of many DMV offices.

Also, there’s the suppression issues of them changing/closing polling places; getting rid of/curtailing early voting; keeping college kids from voting where they go to school.

The voter suppression is more than just voter ID—although that in itself can present real problems for many people.

The “you need an ID to buy beer” (or rent a kayak—that’s a new one) doesn’t even begin to address the issues.

456
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:47:11pm

re: #448 caseyjr

This was my Olds 98, 455, hi-compression, 4bbl, 365 hp, 525 ft.lbs., turnpike cruiser rear ratio. On a 200 mile trip through PA, she used 8 gallons @ 55mph. that’s 24MPG

[Embedded content]

‘68, right?

Dad bought one of those (sedan, though) in 1969, when he decided to upgrade from Ford station wagons. It had a black vinyl roof and black vinyl interior that would vulcanize to our naked leg skin when we got in it on hot, sunny summer days. Not really built for the narrow, bumpy roads of Adams County, though - you went over every bump twice!

He kept it for 2 years, and then went in a COMPLETELY different direction, and bought himself a Citroen DS21 Pallas. Talks about ‘different as chalk and cheese!’

The other possibility when he bought the Olds was a 1966 Lincoln Continental, in light blue, with light blue leather interior. It was the most beautiful car I’d ever seen in person. I WANTED that Lincoln. I still do….

457
BlueSpotinAL  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:49:21pm

re: #435 PhillyPretzel

It looks like that. And HDMI cable I will go with amazon basics.
amazon.com

Monoprice has a 100 foot HDMI cable for $80. Get that one. Could double as Wonder Woman’s Lariat of Truth.

458
meteor  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:50:14pm

How many times does Pres. Mo-ron need to be told “No”? Can he just fuck off now?

459
jaunte  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:51:55pm
460
Stanley Sea  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:52:03pm

JP Morgan marketing dir:

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calochortus  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:52:23pm

re: #455 BeachDem

Also, kids in families that moved a lot-they may not be sure where they were born-and they sure don’t live anywhere near that county now to go and check. They may have been raised by relatives because of parental death or dysfunction. Naturally this is less likely to happen to the “right” voters.

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calochortus  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:56:12pm

re: #423 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m legit confused. Are they actually trying to sell that item?

I wonder if that is actually the item they’re selling. For those in the know it might be “buy cool HDMI cable and get some some drugs, illegal guns, smuggled ivory carving, or whatever thrown in at no additional cost.”

463
MsJ  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:56:28pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:56:28pm

He’ll walk. Like O.J. did with his murder trial.

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mmmirele  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:58:11pm

re: #316 Blind Frog Belly White

My mom had one of those Chrysler New Yorker land yachts. It was white with a blue (trending to the gray side) top. We called it “the Boat.” The car (along with its seat belts) actually saved my sister’s life when she went around a blind curve and smashed into a disabled vehicle in the middle of an intersection. Would you believe the thing was fixable and my mother drove it a few more years before she got something smaller and more economical?

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meteor  Jun 12, 2017 • 6:59:06pm

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wheat-dogg  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:01:17pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

kGoIuOwgIUKuoP0tw8MnpIUXNaa6WohTWkxx+h91Q408qnOuUaAbI8bUVkYWm0+nWuYUK1X1cpZgafr2s/rlICaDz6Ke054hYrZvchsUXW+mOs0wfgxGBUCG8EBiT9Wh2u5HacpF0HPcl8WHpF+0Ewi/hvGn3ApTYyOfRsfjnhOU7XYl0CqyeNI4j2z0aXPkyOWIJwCRX6UhiDqynb949Q==

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:01:46pm

re: #466 meteor

[Embedded content]

Pronounced “Troomp is a coont!”

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caseyjr  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:04:41pm

re: #456 Blind Frog Belly White

Yes, 1968, and in case you couldn’t tell, a convertible. It was a good reliable car until it started leaking.
A 2 1/2 ton car that goes well over 100 MPH needs something better than 14” tires and drum brakes.

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caseyjr  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:15:24pm

re: #443 Blind Frog Belly White

Alice and the Jensen FF, I can’t really say if one is hotter.

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makeitstop  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:15:59pm

re: #469 caseyjr

Yes, 1968, and in case you couldn’t tell, a convertible. It was a good reliable car until it started leaking.
A 2 1/2 ton car that goes well over 100 MPH needs something better than 14” tires and drum brakes.

My second car was one of these, same color and all. Oldsmobile considered this a small wagon.

Vista Cruiser!

The extra headroom from the little windows really came in handy when it was time to haul Fender Bandmaster cabinets around.

472
TedStriker  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:17:10pm

re: #412 makeitstop

Bath salts and meth.

And kratom.

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TedStriker  Jun 12, 2017 • 7:18:18pm

re: #471 makeitstop

My second car was one of these, same color and all. Oldsmobile considered this a small wagon.

[Embedded content]

The extra headroom from the little windows really came in handy when it was time to haul Fender Bandmaster cabinets around.

Ahh, the Vista Cruiser, familiar to anyone who watched That 70s Show.

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retired cynic  Jun 12, 2017 • 8:37:30pm

re: #448 caseyjr

This was my Olds 98, 455, hi-compression, 4bbl, 365 hp, 525 ft.lbs., turnpike cruiser rear ratio. On a 200 mile trip through PA, she used 8 gallons @ 55mph. that’s 24MPG

[Embedded content]

Oh, that baby looks familiar! I learned to drive with one, just a pale sage green-grey. I got stopped going nearly 90 when I was 16. The policeman was merciful, because I was obviously horrified that it had gotten up to that speed without me noticing. What a wonderful car!

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darthstar  Jun 12, 2017 • 10:02:22pm

Really looking forward to tomorrow’s Presidential Tweet Storm.


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