What We Know About the Belleville Shooter So Far

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Another terrible incident of gun violence today, this time directed at Congressional Republicans at a practice session for a baseball game.

House Majority Whip Steve Scalise is reportedly in critical condition after being shot in the hip.

And it looks like the shooter was a Bernie Sanders fan.

The accused shooter who was killed during gunfire at practice for a congressional baseball game Wednesday morning was from Belleville.

The shooter was James T. Hodgkinson of Belleville, who belonged to a number of anti-Republican groups, including one called “Terminate the Republican Party.”

[…]

Hodgkinson is a member of a number of anti-Republican groups on Facebook, including one called “Terminate the Republican Party.”

▪  “The Road to Hell is Paved with Republicans”
▪  “Donald Trump is not my President”
▪  “President Bernie Sanders”
▪  “Illinois Berners United to Resist Trump”
▪  “Boycott the Republican Party”
▪  “Expose Republican Fraud”
▪  “Terminate the Republican Party”

[…]

Sen. Bernie Sanders said Wednesday he is “sickened” by reports that the man who opened fire at a congressional baseball practice had volunteered on his presidential campaign.

“I have just been informed that the alleged shooter at the Republican baseball practice is someone who apparently volunteered on my presidential campaign,” Sanders said in a statement. “I am sickened by this despicable act.”

I can’t help recalling a tweet last year by Sen. Rand Paul, who was on the scene during this attack.

I’m pretty sure this isn’t what Sen. Paul had in mind.

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586 comments

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darthstar  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:43:07am

I heard Scalise was out of surgery…I didn’t hear anything about him being in critical condition.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:43:15am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:43:18am

“Restore the Republic” rhetoric doesn’t turn out well.

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:43:38am
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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:46:38am

And the GOP will continue the race to the bottom by complaining about the overheated rhetoric contributing to the shooting.

Anything to deflect attention away from the fact that the guy probably shouldn’t have had access to guns at all. Or that the easy availability of firearms creates conditions such as this, or the ongoing mass shootings that happen like clockwork (hours after the Virginia shooting, there was a mass shooting at a UPS facility in San Francisco).

But for the easy availability of guns, mass shootings would occur much more infrequently. But for the lax gun laws in many parts of the country, shootings would be much lower than it is.

As it stands, states with stronger gun laws have a much lower per capita homicide by gun rate than those having lax gun laws.

Virginia’s per capita homicide rate is more than twice that of New York. New York, despite having a much larger population, had fewer homicides by firearms than Virginia in 2015.

Of course, we have Rand Paul and Trump himself musing about 2d Amendment solutions, but will now watch as GOPers deflect and defend both statements while claiming it was Democrats who were pouring gasoline on the political environment.

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:47:32am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:50:16am

re: #6 Kragar

Not violent. Free speech.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:50:16am

re: #6 Kragar

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Damn Democrats and their violent rhetoric. //

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Franklin  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:50:20am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:51:15am

re: #2 A dark and stormy covfefe

Parody site or nah?

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:52:02am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:53:47am

re: #11 Kragar

“This appalling act of violence highlights the fact that the unrelenting demonization of our legitimately elected political leaders could lead to tragedy

Ah, yes, I remember fondly Jeffries saying this about the legitimately elected and popular vote winner, Obama, who won both EC and popular vote twice.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:53:48am

re: #10 Sir John Barron

Yup. Canada’s version of the Onion.

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covfefe  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:54:18am

I’d ask Rand “So pal. How did that feel?”, but I’m not an asshole.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:54:25am

re: #5 lawhawk

And the GOP will continue the race to the bottom by complaining about the overheated rhetoric contributing to the shooting. (rest cut)

Well, they got their news deflection from the Russia investigation and Senator Jeff Session’s testimony. I don’t think they were looking for something like this though.

I sincerely hope that Rep. Scalise and the others who were shot come out of this okay.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:55:08am

re: #11 Kragar

There are people with the ability to turn Republicans into demons?!! Does it only work on Republicans, and if so, why?

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Ubiq  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:56:10am

I’m not a big fan of Bernie Sanders, but he had the decency to condemn this man, and political violence, in no uncertain terms almost immediately.

Meanwhile, we’re still waiting for Trump to condemn the Canada mosque shooter or any other right-wing nutjob.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:56:16am

re: #10 Sir John Barron

Parody site or nah?

Satire site.

Want hilarious satire you can listen to? Check out The Beaverton Weekly Report podcast here

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covfefe  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:59:01am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:00:07pm

Yeah…….

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:00:55pm

re: #11 Kragar

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Fuck off Pastor Hypocrite.

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:01:09pm

re: #20 Dave In Austin

Yeah…….

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O.O

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:01:33pm

re: #20 Dave In Austin

Yeah…….

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Uhm…What?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:01:47pm

DEMOCRATS ARE DOING SATAN’S WORK!

DID THAT DEMOCRAT JUST CALL DONALD TRUMP A NAME?

I mean goddamn it if oyu’re going to call us Satan’s pawns, learn how to take it you fucking hypocritical babies.

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:01:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:02:06pm

Per capita by state firearms deaths (Kaiser Foundation):

kff.org

The top ten states are all states with loose gun laws.

Virginia is below the national average.

Nebraska is below Virginia but above New York (#37) - we have fewer people to hit.

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Franklin  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:03:57pm

“An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us.”

YAY!!!!!! WAHOO!!!!!! YESSSSSSS!!!!! WOOOOOOO!!!!!

So let’s do something about it, no guns for mentally ill, universal background checks….

Whoah, let’s not get carried away here.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:04:02pm

re: #23 MsJ

Uhm…What?

Facebook blocked?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:05:31pm

re: #27 Franklin

When Rep. Ryan says “an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us,” does he mean Congressional leaders, or all Americans?

(I already know the answer to that.)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:05:40pm

re: #27 Franklin

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“An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us.”

YAY!!!!!! WAHOO!!!!!! YESSSSSSS!!!!! WOOOOOOO!!!!!

So let’s do something about it, no guns for mentally ill, universal background checks….

Whoah, let’s not get carried away here.

I didn’t see the GOP saying this after Giffords got shot. I agree with the spirit of that by the way but you know what, maybe you should be equally concerned about the rest of us that get shot due to your kissing the NRA’s ass on gun laws. No, we won’t stop all gun violence but we can at least work to reduce it which we would be doing if your mouth wasn’t tied to LaPierre and the NRA’s fat tits.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:06:09pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:06:46pm

Years of GOP rhetoric legitimizing violent resistance to the government as the purpose of the 2nd Amendment contributes to this. In reality, its clear that the purpose of a “well-regulated militia” is to suppress rebellions, just as President Washington did during the Whiskey Rebellion.

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caseyjr  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:07:51pm

so this just happened:

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caseyjr  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:08:56pm

re: #29 Anymouse

When Rep. Ryan says “an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us,” does he mean Congressional leaders, or all Americans?

(I already know the answer to that.)

verbiage of NATO’s article V

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Sir John Barron  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:09:00pm

re: #33 caseyjr

so this just happened:

Oh, Senate Judiciary should drop this because some crazy lefty might get mad and be violent.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:09:29pm

re: #32 Big Beautiful Door

Years of GOP rhetoric legitimizing violent resistance to the government as the purpose of the 2nd Amendment contributes to this. In reality, its clear that the purpose of a “well-regulated militia” is to suppress rebellions, just as President Washington did during the Whiskey Rebellion.

Exactly. And they talked this way all the time in the Obama years when dealing with their constituents. No Democratic legislator or Bernie Sanders for that matter has said that Democrats needed to use “2nd amendment solutions” to deal with those they disagreed with politically. Sorry Republicans, it’s awful what happened and I don’t condone it all but stop talking about people in our government as “tyrants” and that’s why the 2nd amendment exists.

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:09:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:09:59pm

re: #37 Kragar

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Yes, pelase.

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Franklin  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:10:02pm

re: #33 caseyjr

so this just happened:

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“Happy Birthday, Mr President”

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:10:54pm

re: #37 Kragar

I would take out a loan.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:10:58pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

I didn’t see the GOP saying this after Giffords got shot. I agree with the spirit of that by the way but you know what, maybe you should be equally concerned about the rest of us that get shot due to your kissing the NRA’s ass on gun laws. No, we won’t stop all gun violence but we can at least work to reduce it which we would be doing if your mouth wasn’t tied to LaPierre and the NRA’s fat tits.

Actually, when she entered the House floor after being shot to vote on a bill, the entire US House stood up and cheered her.

christianpost.com

yahoo.com

Gabrielle Giffords Responds to Baseball Shooting (bad headline, Yahoo, no baseballs were harmed):

Former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) issued a statement on a shooting that targeted congressional Republicans in Alexandria, Virginia, on Wednesday.

“It doesn’t matter if you’re a Democrat or a Republican, nor if you’re a senator or a representative, nor a staffer or a sworn officer,” Giffords’ statement read, in part. “If you serve the institution of Congress, you’re connected to your colleagues, current and former, by a shared sense of service to ideals far greater than yourself. This shooting is an attack on all who serve and on all who participate in our democracy.”

Earlier in the day, Giffords tweeted a response to a gunman opening fire on a group of people practicing for a congressional baseball game. House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) was among those injured in the attack.

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sagehen  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:12:15pm

re: #29 Anymouse

When Rep. Ryan says “an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us,” does he mean Congressional leaders, or all Americans?

(I already know the answer to that.)

He means Republicans.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:12:29pm

re: #40 Belafon

I would take out a loan.

I’d mortgage my house and car.

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Franklin  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:13:20pm

“it’s not the guns fault either”. I hate that line of logic. Preventing someone with a history of domestic abuse from buying a gun isn’t denying the gun a happy home, it’s denying an abusive person access to said gun.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:13:35pm

re: #41 Anymouse

Actually, when she entered the House floor after being shot to vote on a bill, the entire US House stood up and cheered her.

christianpost.com

yahoo.com

Gabrielle Giffords Responds to Baseball Shooting (bad headline, Yahoo, no baseballs were harmed):

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Good for them. I guess I meant the attack on one is an attack on all rhetoric. And I appreciate her words here too. I just think the GOP is full of shit since they repeatedly talk about the purpose of the 2nd amendment beign to “stop government tyrants.” Well this asshole saw Scalise and the rest as tyrants who needed to die. That was wrong as hell. It would be nice maybe if they would acknowledge their Obama era rhetoric was wrong instead of blaming the left and Democrats.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:14:38pm

re: #44 Franklin

“it’s not the guns fault either”. I hate that line of logic. Preventing someone with a history of domestic abuse from buying a gun isn’t denying the gun a happy home, it’s denying an abusive person access to said gun.

Thanks for weighing in Tomi. Your opinion matters greatly to us.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:14:42pm

re: #44 Franklin

To use Wonkette’s stylebook, Tomi Lahren is a idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:15:13pm

re: #44 Franklin

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“it’s not the guns fault either”. I hate that line of logic. Preventing someone with a history of domestic abuse from buying a gun isn’t denying the gun a happy home, it’s denying an abusive person access to said gun.

Won’t someone think of the poor gun? // By the way, is Tomi a moron or something, Bernie wasn’t going to blame guns anyhow, his record on guns is something she’d like actually if she actually knew who she was scoholing. The difference is Trump actually used violent rhetoric and the violence happeend at his rallies. Sanders never used violent rhetoric and the violence happened long after his presidential campaign ended but nice try Tomi.

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piratedan  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:16:38pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

mostly the GOP was doing their level best to distance themselves from Sarah Palin’s “surveyors symbols” marketing tag identifying which Democratic seats were vulnerable, Giffords was their top “target” and the seat was a point of contention ever since (especially if you look at all of the money that the GOP has dumped into this district in order to get McSally elected)..

Obama brought up gun restrictions post Giffords/Tucson and Sandy Hook and they were demonized for politicizing the issue that after all, is a real political issue.

If it takes the actual shooting of GOP legislators to bring awareness of the issue, I’m extremely sad that it had to come to that to even allow the discussion to take place, but happy to see if it actually spurs realistic discussion.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:16:48pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:17:03pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

Sanders represents a rural state, where guns are in more regular use. He isn’t going to condemn guns (though he might also argue for smarter laws).

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Sir John Barron  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:17:14pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

Guns are blameless. Innocent bystanders in all these tragedies. The only solution is to ban political speech by Democrats and to prevent investigations into GOP misconduct.

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Franklin  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:19:28pm

“The amendment would assess an additional 4% surtax on individual annual income over one million dollars, and would require the legislature to allocate the increased revenue solely on education and transportation needs.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:19:56pm

re: #51 Anymouse

Sanders represents a rural state, where guns are in more regular use. He isn’t going to condemn guns (though he might also argue for smarter laws).

I know his record. I’m just pointing out that he’s not the “gun grabber” she wants to make him out ot be.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:20:22pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

Shouldn’t this investigation stop because of all the anger and hatred and gun shootings?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:20:50pm

re: #52 Sir John Barron

Guns are blameless. Innocent bystanders in all these tragedies. The only solution is to ban political speech by Democrats and to prevent investigations into GOP misconduct.

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Here’s what pisses me off about GOP rhetoric on gun violence. It’s never guns’ fault but Mike Huckabee and all these assohles can blame liberalism, gay marriage, abortion, music, video games, but heaven forbid oyu bring up easy access to guns which is what separates us from say the UK or Canada.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:21:16pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

Here’s what pisses me off about GOP rhetoric on gun violence. It’s never guns’ fault but Mike Huckabee and all these assohles can blame liberalism, gay marriage, abortion, music, video games, but heaven forbid oyu bring up easy access to guns which is what separates us from say the UK or Canada.

Can’t blame GOP, or Tea Party rhetoric either.

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:21:19pm
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Mike Lamb  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:21:26pm

re: #29 Anymouse

When Rep. Ryan says “an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us,” does he mean Congressional leaders, or all Americans?

(I already know the answer to that.)

Actually—does he mean the GOP, all Congress people, or all Americans?

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:21:58pm

re: #53 Franklin

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“The amendment would assess an additional 4% surtax on individual annual income over one million dollars, and would require the legislature to allocate the increased revenue solely on education and transportation needs.”

Reckon that will end up chasing more rich Trump supporters over the border into no-income-tax New Hampshire?

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Stanley Sea  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:22:05pm

Read the subsequent tweets

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:22:20pm

re: #49 piratedan

Obama brought up gun restrictions post Giffords/Tucson and Sandy Hook and they were demonized for politicizing the issue that after all, is a real political issue.

As is noted in other places, there are two intractable sides to the debate that will not give ground. As long as that situation exists, nothing will get done.

Dem: Let’s talk about smarter gun laws.
Rep: Stop politicising tragedy. It’s not the gun’s fault, it’s (criminal, unstable, job loss)
Dem: Okay, let’s talk about improved medical care.
Rep: Taxes.
Dem: Let’s talk about jobs, the economy, and training.
Rep: 1% are the job creators. They need tax breaks.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:23:49pm

re: #60 Barefoot Grin

Reckon that will end up chasing more rich Trump supporters over the border into no-income-tax New Hampshire?

Lots of banking and hedge fund jobs in New Hampshire.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:24:10pm

If only the good guys had been armed with guns instead of baseball bats.
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Skip Intro  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:24:18pm

Here’s another mass shooting where the poor gun is blameless.

3 people killed, gunman dead in shooting at UPS building in SF

At least three people were killed and two injured when a man dressed in a UPS uniform let loose a barrage of gunfire Wednesday morning at the delivery company’s building in the Potrero Hill area of San Francisco, officials said.

In addition to the three dead, the gunman shot himself in the head when confronted by police inside the building and later died, Assistant Police Chief Toney Chaplin said.

Two other people were wounded, Chaplin said. Their conditions were not immediately known.

sfgate.com

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:24:19pm

re: #57 Sir John Barron

Can’t blame GOP, or Tea Party rhetoric either.

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Exactly. Brevik can literally cite Pam Geller but she’s not to blame. This asshole supported and worked on Sanders’ campaign. OMG IT’s BERNIE’s FAULT. I don’t like Bernie at all but he’s never used rhetoric to suggest that his political opponents somehow deserve death. Meanwhile Geller likened pro-Muslim Westerners to Nazi collaborators.Alex Jones repeatedly likens the left ot the Nazis. Maybe this will be a lesson for the GOP. I doubt it but I can only hope.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:24:47pm

re: #44 Franklin

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“it’s not the guns fault either”. I hate that line of logic. Preventing someone with a history of domestic abuse from buying a gun isn’t denying the gun a happy home, it’s denying an abusive person access to said gun.

Also, Tomi, cite to some language from Sanders (or any prominent Democrat) that could be construed as inciting violence. Give me the tweet comparable to Rand Paul’s. Or show me a Democrat referencing Second Amendment remedies. And please make it contemporary—after all, we are reliably informed that the rhetoric only became hateful starting on January 20, 2017.

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:24:54pm

re: #61 Stanley Sea

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Read the subsequent tweets

Are you thinking what I’m thinking?

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:25:00pm

re: #26 Anymouse

I worked off the CDC’s firearms mortality tables. It has sortable tables for per capita and total deaths. NY is among the lowest on per capita basis, while it’s overall death number is below Virginia despite having a significant larger population.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:26:49pm

re: #68 Teukka

?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:35:53pm

re: #69 lawhawk

I worked off the CDC’s firearms mortality tables. It has sortable tables for per capita and total deaths. NY is among the lowest on per capita basis, while it’s overall death number is below Virginia despite having a significant larger population.

I was working off Kaiser’s, which sourced multiple places (including the CDC).

We have a town here that two years ago had a 100% per capita murder rate. (Angora has a population of one, two people came in from out of town and one shot the other in Angora.)

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Stanley Sea  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:35:59pm

Here’s video of the shooting.

omg

dennismichaellynch.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:35:59pm

re: #39 Franklin

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“Happy Birthday, Mr President”

Needz moar Marilyn Monroe….
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KGxvi  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:37:16pm

re: #68 Teukka

Are you thinking what I’m thinking?

I think so Brain, but how are we going to teach the hippo Swan Lake?

Are You Pondering What I’m Pondering

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:37:57pm

NBC won’t pay any attention to you, but you can lodge your complaints about normalising Alex Jones here:

nbc.com

Limited space for comment, so make sure you’ll note which advertisers are on Megyn Kelly’s show so you won’t patronise them. (You can even complain if you don’t own a television.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:38:55pm

re: #72 Stanley Sea

Here’s video of the shooting.

omg

dennismichaellynch.com

Nope. Not watching attempted snuff films published by the New York Post

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:39:12pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:39:44pm

re: #74 KGxvi

I think so Brain, but how are we going to teach the hippo Swan Lake?

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+1 for Pinky and the Brain!

As an aside, I do wonder what the long term effects on my children will be of their diet of Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain, and Invader Zim.

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retired cynic  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:39:58pm

re: #76 Anymouse

Nope. Not watching attempted snuff films published by the New York Post

Trying not to use up brain cells for storing stuff when I may need the space later….

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makeitstop  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:40:09pm

re: #62 Anymouse

As is noted in other places, there are two intractable sides to the debate that will not give ground. As long as that situation exists, nothing will get done.

Dem: Let’s talk about smarter gun laws.
Rep: Stop politicising tragedy. It’s not the gun’s fault, it’s (criminal, unstable, job loss)
Dem: Okay, let’s talk about improved medical care.
Rep: Taxes.
Dem: Let’s talk about jobs, the economy, and training.
Rep: 1% are the job creators. They need tax breaks.

That only looks like one intractable side to me.

Let’s remember the 140+ amendments that Democrats let Republicans add to the ACA.

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:40:39pm
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Teukka  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:40:46pm

re: #72 Stanley Sea

Here’s video of the shooting.

omg

dennismichaellynch.com

Longer clip:

Eyewitness video captures congressional baseball shooting

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:40:56pm

re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White

+1 for Pinky and the Brain!

As an aside, I do wonder what the long term effects on my children will be of their diet of Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain, and Invader Zim.

Invader Zim is on Hulu now. We have it cued up for a watching binge because my wife has never seen the show. I worry about the long-term effects on my wife. /s The Powerpuff Girls are bad enough for her. /s

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:42:36pm

re: #80 makeitstop

That only looks like one intractable side to me.

Let’s remember the 140+ amendments that Democrats let Republicans add to the ACA.

There is the other side.

That would be the ACA they have wanted to kill ever since it passed, so they don’t give a damn about those amendments anyway. Zero Republicans voted for the bill.

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:43:33pm

What I hope is that this incident won’t prove to be the Reichstagsbrand moment of the Trump admin :(

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:44:40pm

re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White

+1 for Pinky and the Brain!

As an aside, I do wonder what the long term effects on my children will be of their diet of Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain, and Invader Zim.

My oldest is starting his PhD in chemistry, my middle can’t decide between being a writer, chef, or cognitive scientist, and my youngest does robotics, music, and mathematics beyond his years. I think they’ll be OK.

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KGxvi  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:46:26pm

re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White

+1 for Pinky and the Brain!

As an aside, I do wonder what the long term effects on my children will be of their diet of Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain, and Invader Zim.

I don’t know Invader Zim, but Animaniacs and Pink/Brain are great, and needed in this time. Also, I probably loved the Goodfeathers more than just about any of the Animaniacs characters…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:48:03pm

My regional paper has a poll today asking readers if they think AG Sessions had anything to do with firing James Comey.

The percentages of Yes and No add up to 70%. There is not a choice for “no opinion” or “I don’t know.”

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makeitstop  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:49:15pm

re: #84 Anymouse

There is the other side.

That would be the ACA they have wanted to kill ever since it passed, so they don’t give a damn about those amendments anyway. Zero Republicans voted for the bill.

But my point is that Democrats were at least willing to let Republicans amend the bill.

AHCA? Republicans aren’t even letting Democrats see the bill.

‘Two intractable sides,’ my ass.

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:49:34pm

re: #72 Stanley Sea

Here’s video of the shooting.

omg

dennismichaellynch.com

Wow. There are no words. All I can hope is that sends chills down the spines of everyone that refuses to discuss the need for gun controls.

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EPR-radar  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:49:35pm

re: #16 Belafon

There are people with the ability to turn Republicans into demons?!! Does it only work on Republicans, and if so, why?

Turning Republicans into demons is the easiest job ever. I could sit on my ass all day long and do nothing but watch this natural process in action and claim credit for it.

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:50:33pm

re: #90 ObserverArt

Wow. There are no words. All I can hope is that sends chills down the spines of everyone that refuses to discuss the need for gun controls.

It’s too early to talk about gun control! 11111tthy!!!111!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:51:07pm

re: #89 makeitstop

But my point is that Democrats were at least willing to let Republicans amend the bill.

AHCA? Republicans aren’t even letting Democrats see the bill.

‘Two intractable sides,’ my ass.

Well, they lied about not seeing the ACA, so both sides are just the same. /s

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Birth Control Works  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:51:14pm

re: #26 Anymouse

Per capita by state firearms deaths (Kaiser Foundation):

kff.org

The top ten states are all states with loose gun laws.

Virginia is below the national average.

Nebraska is below Virginia but above New York (#37) - we have fewer people to hit.

Statistics in regard to Fireram is hinky at best. Until recently, the government did NO research —it was mandated.

The dearth of research funding goes back to 1997, when an amendment was added to an operations bill that passed in Congress with the language that the CDC will be barred from any research that will “advocate or promote gun control,” CDC spokeswoman Courtney Lenard told ABC News.

Called the Dickey Amendment after Rep. Jay Dickey, a Republican from Arkansas who served from 1993 to 2001, the amendment is often called a ban, but it did allow for research on injuries or deaths from firearms. However, Lenard pointed out that after the amendment, Congress cut funding for the CDC by the exact amount that had been spent on gun research in the year before. While that $2.6 million in funding was eventually restored, it was earmarked for traumatic brain injury research, according to a 2013 article in The Journal of the American Medical Association.

Illinois has, for example, rather strict gun laws -especially Chicago—yet we know there are a lot of death from firearms.

There is no way to know how much data may be biased.

WE also have no way of collecting info in regard to defensive use of firearms, whether fired or just brandished as a warning.

This chart from the CDC is sortable.

WE don’t know from it, tho, which are murders or lesser forms of use. Self-defense, accident, for example.

Total Deaths is also important to compare. Firearm death is still death.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:52:07pm

re: #87 KGxvi

I don’t know Invader Zim, but Animaniacs and Pink/Brain are great, and needed in this time. Also, I probably loved the Goodfeathers more than just about any of the Animaniacs characters…

I’m a big fan of Slappy Squirrel, myself.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:53:02pm

re: #77 Kragar

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Yeah, that was an exercise in futility. You could tell everyone knew it during the Presser, too! The NRA’s idea was to put armed military vets in every school.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:53:38pm

re: #91 EPR-radar

Turning Republicans into demons is the easiest job ever. I could sit on my ass all day long and do nothing but watch this natural process in action and claim credit for it.

When your own representative can say he only represents Republicans, then go on NPR with a straight face and say that the poor don’t deserve to eat, there are heartless Republicans, and then there are soulless Republicans.

All I can say about my representative is he’s not as evil as Steve King next door in IA-4, or Liz Cheney on the other side of me in WY-At Large.

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gocart mozart  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:53:44pm
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Birth Control Works  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:54:54pm

IN and out all day.

bbl

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:57:46pm

re: #93 Anymouse

Well, they lied about not seeing the ACA, so both sides are just the same. /s

I posted a Twitter discussion of this very thing the other day. Somebody said the the GOP accused Democrats of exactly the same thing over the ACA.

Bruce Bartlett replied, ‘The difference is that they were lying when they did that’.

Too many people, especially on the Right, remember the soundbites, not the events. So they remember Pelosi’s poorly-phrased ‘have to pass it to see what’s in it’, and say it was all done in secret, and forget that the House passed the Senate bill so the full text had been on line for THREE MONTHS before the House passed it.

Plus they remember the discussion of using some legislative legerdemain that was never done, but what they believe is that that’s what happened.

Idiots.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:58:05pm

re: #97 Anymouse

All I can say about my representative is he’s not as evil as Steve King next door in IA-4, or Liz Cheney on the other side of me in WY-At Large.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:58:36pm

It is not about guns.

People pull triggers.

Words by leaders saying if they bring a knife, we bring a gun.

Words by leaders, Trump is killing people.

Words by leaders, Get in their face.

Words by leaders Wear Mask, carry baseball bats, break windows

Words by leaders have results.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:59:01pm

re: #101 Anymouse

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Steve King can just fuck right off.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:59:35pm

re: #101 Anymouse

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Steve King is the last person who shone complaining about the colllapse of the center. He’s a racist fucknugget who wants Nuremberg citizenship laws.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 14, 2017 • 12:59:42pm

re: #101 Anymouse

But it’s too soon to talk about gun control and also Sandy Hook was a false flag Obama and the Left used to politicize guns.

/

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:00:12pm

re: #103 Blind Frog Belly White

Steve King can just fuck right off.

Well, it appears he will be running unopposed in the next election after the Democratic candidate pulled out - she cited both death threats and the inability to maintain her family’s health insurance in a full-time campaign for Congress.

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:00:20pm

re: #28 Dave In Austin

Facebook blocked?

I literally did not know you could go to Facebook from a video.

So I went to Facebook.

And wish I hadn’t. I did not realize that was a snake.

(Note to self…don’t watch videos any longer.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:01:04pm

re: #102 BigBadDemocrat

It is not about guns.

People pull triggers.

Words by leaders saying if they bring a knife, we bring a gun.

Words by leaders, Trump is killing people.

Words by leaders, Get in their face.

Words by leaders Wear Mask, carry baseball bats, break windows

Words by leaders have results.

Huh. So, you’re saying that our uniquely violent society is because nobody else’s leaders use potentially violent imagery? It has nothing to do with all the goddam guns we have in America that nobody else even comes close to having?

Right. Pull the other one. It’s got bells on it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:01:32pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

Steve King is the last person who shone complaining about the colllapse of the center. He’s a racist fucknugget who wants Nuremberg citizenship laws.

Yup. He wants me deported because of my Polish grandparents who came here when it was illegal for Slavs to immigrate (fleeing the Nazis just before they invaded Poland).

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:01:52pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:03:02pm

re: #110 Kragar

That’s a screwed up sentence. Home confinement for bank robbery? (But weed users need to go to jail.) If I was the wife, I’d get the hell out of there.

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darthstar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:03:52pm

re: #20 Dave In Austin

Yeah…….

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I see the problem with your AC unit…it’s got a mouse stuck in it.

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:05:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:07:20pm
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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:08:37pm

re: #111 Anymouse

That’s a screwed up sentence. Home confinement for bank robbery? (But weed users need to go to jail.) If I was the wife, I’d get the hell out of there.

Guy just had heart surgery and was still on meds. He handed the teller a note saying he was robbing the place, then just stood there waiting for the cops to show up.

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EPR-radar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:09:26pm

re: #113 jaunte

Rep. Collins said nothing about the murder of Lt. Collins by a RWNJ because he needs the support of like-minded RWNJs.

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TedStriker  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:09:26pm

re: #111 Anymouse

That’s a screwed up sentence. Home confinement for bank robbery? (But weed users need to go to jail.) If I was the wife, I’d get the hell out of there.

Appears to be a case of post-op depression:

Court records indicate Ripple wrote the robbery note in front of his wife and told her he would rather be in jail than at home.
Ripple told the judge Tuesday that heart surgery left him depressed and unlike himself before he robbed the bank. He had no criminal record, was a good father to four step-children and was in a stable relationship with his wife.
Ripple’s public defender said he has since been properly diagnosed, is on proper medication and feels like his normal self again, the Kansas City Star reports.

IOW, a good, upstanding citizen before all of this; to me, if no one was hurt, I could live with them having this sentence.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:10:43pm

re: #115 Kragar

Guy just had heart surgery and was still on meds. He handed the teller a note saying he was robbing the place, then just stood there waiting for the cops to show up.

I recall that case now. I’d still get out if I was his wife.

Moreover, conveying a threat of bank robbery is still a threat. There is no way the bank staff could know anything other than he was threatening to rob the bank.

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:10:59pm

Fox News, changing their slogan but still unconscious of irony.

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:13:00pm

re: #110 Kragar

Man Who Robbed Bank to Avoid His Wife Sentenced to Home Confinement

That didn’t work out as he intended. /

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Stanley Sea  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:13:27pm

The two congressmen who are the team captains are giving a great presser right now.

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darthstar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:13:40pm

re: #119 jaunte

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Fox News, changing their slogan but still unconscious of irony.

It’s all fun and games until Republicans get shot. Can’t they just report on the fucking thing without making it into some kind of opportunity they can leverage for more viewers?

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:15:35pm

re: #122 darthstar

It’s hard to believe they actually care about Republicans getting shot, it just makes their job easier.

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darthstar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:16:54pm

re: #33 caseyjr

so this just happened:

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Great news for Trump!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:18:10pm

re: #122 darthstar

It’s all fun and games until Republicans get shot. Can’t they just report on the fucking thing without making it into some kind of opportunity they can leverage for more viewers?

FOX: Changed slogan, same fear.

Political Rhetorical Terrorism Contributed to Attack

Because both sides do it:

The shooting Wednesday at a congressional baseball practice prompted swift calls to ratchet down the country’s heated political rhetoric, with one Republican congressman who was at the scene saying the “hateful rhetoric” on both sides has to stop.

Rep. Rodney Davis, R-Ill., specifically blamed “political rhetorical terrorism” - heated rhetoric on social media and in the news - for Wednesday’s shooting, in which House Majority Whip Steve Scalise and several others were wounded.

“This is the result, I believe, of political rhetorical terrorism. That has to stop,” he told “America’s Newsroom.”

I don’t recall anyone at all calling for shooting government officials on the Dem side.

I recall plenty of R state and Federal politicians knob-slobbing both the Bunkerville, Nevada standoff and the Oregon wildlife refuge takeover.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:19:15pm

If those GOP congressmen had only been armed and prepared to defend themselves…

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:19:56pm

The inability to be self-aware is not a virtue.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:20:24pm

re: #127 BigBadDemocrat

The inability to be self-aware is not a virtue.

Sure it is. It’s called “faith.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:21:40pm

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If those GOP congressmen had only been armed and prepared to defend themselves…

You laugh, but there are some saying that Congresspersons should now be allowed to carry in DC.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:22:10pm

You realize that this will give Trump a boost in his approval ratings, don’t you?

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:22:30pm

re: #128 Anymouse

Sure it is. It’s called “faith.”

I know plenty of self-aware religious people.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:23:03pm

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You realize that this will give Trump a boost in his approval ratings, don’t you?

If it does, it will be very short lived.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:23:08pm

How did Rome fall?

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:23:53pm

What is going on in Venezuela ?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:24:06pm

re: #133 BigBadDemocrat

How did Rome fall?

Liberals.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:24:25pm

re: #132 Belafon


You realize that this will give Trump a boost in his approval ratings, don’t you?

If it does, it will be very short lived.

not if they milk this for all they can (and they will)

It’s going to be all about liberal hate and the Persecuted President and all those who support him…

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:24:28pm

What is MS-13?

138
Interesting Times  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:24:50pm

Where’s the “suspicious cat” picture when you need it? e_e

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sagehen  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:25:47pm

re: #137 BigBadDemocrat

What is MS-13?

A Salvadoran-based drug cartel, with affiliated gangs in the US.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:25:56pm

Which state governments in the U S owe the most and which have Rainy Day Funds to use?

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wrenchwench  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:26:35pm

re: #138 Interesting Times

Where’s the “suspicious cat” picture when you need it? e_e

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:26:43pm

Which cities have the most gun deaths?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:27:24pm

re: #131 Belafon

I know plenty of self-aware religious people.

Except in that spot that cannot provide evidence for faith.

Right after the Boston Marathon bombing, I drew up a proclamation for our village board to send to the Governor of Massachusetts and the relevant cities’ mayors involved. It was read in the village board meeting by the chairwoman and adopted by the board.

No “prayers” in the proclamation. It condemned terrorism, noted our tiny village stood behind them, and looked forward to the state and cities overcoming that heinous crime.

All of them sent personal letters back to our village board, which were published in town and in the paper. (Turns out our village was the only city in W. Nebraska that sent anything like that to them.)

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:27:28pm

re: #137 BigBadDemocrat

A gang that originated in the US in the 1980s, made up of mostly El Salvadorans.

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:27:32pm
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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:28:08pm

re: #138 Interesting Times

Where’s the “suspicious cat” picture when you need it? e_e

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:28:54pm

re: #139 sagehen

A Salvadoran-based drug cartel, with affiliated gangs in the US.

Actually, MS-13 started here, and was exported to Central America when we deported people.

MS-13 (Mara Salvatrucha; also known as simply MS or Mara) is an international criminal gang that originated in Los Angeles, California, US in the 1980s. The gang later spread to many parts of the continental United States, Canada, Mexico, and Central America, and is active in urban and suburban areas. Most members are ethnically of Central American origin (principally El Salvador).

en.wikipedia.org

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:28:58pm

re: #142 BigBadDemocrat

Which cities have the most gun deaths?

Important to note per capita

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Interesting Times  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:29:16pm

re: #146 jaunte

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Heh. Though it’s the one wrenchwench posted that I had in mind. The one that gets posted when we get one of those passive-aggressive “just asking questions” trolls.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:29:23pm

I just spent 4 years working two jobs to get a degree.

Now look at the mess as I try to get a job at last.

How does total no co- operation with the Republicans help anyone?

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:30:20pm

What percentage of the MS-13 members are U S citizens.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:30:39pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:30:58pm

re: #148 Kragar

Important to note per capita

Angora, Nebraska (100%).

Per capita can be skewed by population.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:31:22pm

So, all evil on planet earth is the fault of the U S A?

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:31:56pm

re: #153 Anymouse

Angora, Nebraska (100%).

Per capita can be skewed by population.

Per capita can be skewed by small sample size.

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:32:58pm

First Bernie lover comment I came across.

“A Clinton supporter wouldn’t have shot a Republican since she is one.”

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:33:10pm

Are the contents of the East Anglia University e-mails a result of real science?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:34:11pm

re: #155 Belafon

Per capita can be skewed by small sample size.

Well, the question was “which cities have the most gun deaths per capita.” I realise small sample size skews results, I was just being pedantic.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:34:16pm

How many homes does Bernie Sanders own and what value?

Source of income.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:34:35pm

re: #133 BigBadDemocrat

How did Rome fall?

Gradually over centuries.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:34:59pm
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danarchy  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:35:27pm

re: #153 Anymouse

Angora, Nebraska (100%).

Per capita can be skewed by population.

Angora is not a city, it is not even a town. Any City worthy of being called a city probably has a large enough population that per capita stats aren’t going to be skewed by an outlier event that much.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:35:48pm

re: #142 BigBadDemocrat

Which cities have the most gun deaths?

re: #153 Anymouse

Angora, Nebraska (100%).

Per capita can be skewed by population.

Angora’s a city?

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wrenchwench  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:35:49pm

re: #150 BigBadDemocrat

I just spent 4 years working two jobs to get a degree.

Now look at the mess as I try to get a job at last.

How does total no co- operation with the Republicans help anyone?

What’s your degree in?

Did they fire you from two jobs because you were suddenly overqualified?

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:36:15pm

Who gave the ok to sell 20% of U S uranium to Putin.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:36:18pm

re: #156 ObserverArt

First Bernie lover comment I came across.

“A Clinton supporter wouldn’t have a shot a Republican since she is one.”

Since Clinton supporters haven’t shot any Democrats, does that make her a Democrat as well?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:36:39pm

re: #157 BigBadDemocrat

Are the contents of the East Anglia University e-mails a result of real science?

Yes. Next question?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:36:56pm

re: #156 ObserverArt

First Bernie lover comment I came across.

“A Clinton supporter wouldn’t have a shot a Republican since she is one.”

WTF.

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:37:36pm

re: #150 BigBadDemocrat

How much does whining on the internet pay?

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Interesting Times  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:37:37pm

re: #167 Anymouse

Yes. Next question?

How many moldy-oldy talking points can one sockpuppet troll spew before it gets bored, banned, or both?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:37:49pm

re: #163 Blind Frog Belly White

Angora’s a city?

It is one of our two incorporated villages in the state with a population of one (villages are cities under a thousand people, but are still cities by the state’s definition). The other is Monowi, famous for being on Good Morning America because of its famous bar.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:37:56pm

re: #165 BigBadDemocrat

Who gave the ok to sell 20% of U S uranium to Putin.

If you actually cared, you could read about it: snopes.com.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:37:58pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

Mis-direction the subject is non co-operation that causes zero solutions.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:38:59pm

re: #165 BigBadDemocrat

Who gave the ok to sell 20% of U S uranium to Putin.

jUST FUCK OFF

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wrenchwench  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:39:05pm

re: #173 BigBadDemocrat

Mis-direction the subject is non co-operation that causes zero solutions.

Is that what you’re up to?

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:39:15pm

re: #170 Interesting Times

Why must the one poster not toeing the line be banned?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:39:37pm

re: #157 BigBadDemocrat

Are the contents of the East Anglia University e-mails a result of real science?

Here’s a clue - we don’t publish our results in emails. We publish them in papers. Then others replicate them, or not. In the case of CRU, their results have been replicated by lots of other folks, which makes the emails of zero value, beyond propagandistic for liars and drooling morons.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:39:55pm

re: #174 I Would Prefer Not To

Anger management problems”?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:40:33pm

Someone is either drunk, bored, or hit the wrong key combo on the bot.

Anyway, two fun milestones. Yesterday I hit 500 miles run since January 1st. Tomorrow, I will hit 1000 miles run since I started this crazy thing. (My first recorded run was on June 24th of last year.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:40:33pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

What’s your degree in?

Did they fire you from two jobs because you were suddenly overqualified?

I’m going to bet NOT history.

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:41:00pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

Steve King is the last person who shone complaining about the colllapse of the center. He’s a racist fucknugget who wants Nuremberg citizenship laws.

This Stever King?

I’m not trying to ‘cause a big s-s-sensation…
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:41:08pm

re: #176 BigBadDemocrat

Why must the one poster not toeing the line be banned?

The one poster has not been banned (yet). This is a private blog owned by Mr. Johnson and he determines who stays and who goes.

Not being interested in the discussion or trolling with a Gish Gallop of points refuted a thousand times are a good way to get the banhammer I imagine.

What’s your view on creationism?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:41:35pm

re: #178 BigBadDemocrat

Anger management problems”?

Yes. I dislike trolls. You add nothing to the discussion. Lot of crap in the world, don’t add more.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:42:25pm

re: #181 ObserverArt

This Stever King?

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Brilliant.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:42:30pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

What’s your degree in?

Did they fire you from two jobs because you were suddenly overqualified?

/notalldegreelesspeople /s

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:42:39pm

A 21 year old park concessions employee.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:42:42pm

re: #165 BigBadDemocrat

Who gave the ok to sell 20% of U S uranium to Putin.

Not this shit, again.

snopes.com

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sagehen  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:43:02pm

re: #163 Blind Frog Belly White

Angora’s a city?

For a very loose definition of “city”.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:43:15pm

Where do most the illegal drugs come from that are laced with chemicals that kill users?

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:43:25pm

Who put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp?
Who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong?

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Interesting Times  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:43:39pm

re: #182 Anymouse

The one poster has not been banned (yet). This is a private blog owned by Mr. Johnson and he determines who stays and who goes.

Judging from the posting pattern and content, I’m 99% sure it’s a sockpuppet account for a previously banned stalker/rwnj. And sockpuppeting is definitely a bannable offense.

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blueraven  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:43:41pm

Waaaaaa!

Somebody can’t get a job in Trump’s America?
Must not be trying very hard. Try the coal mines.

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:44:00pm

re: #165 BigBadDemocrat

Who gave the ok to sell 20% of U S uranium to Putin.

The US government, over the course of many years of negotiation, spanning a Republican and Democrat admin in the WH.

Now, go eat a bag of dicks

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wrenchwench  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:44:55pm

re: #180 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m going to bet NOT history.

Clearly overqualified to post here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:44:59pm

re: #189 BigBadDemocrat

Where do most the illegal drugs come from that are laced with chemicals that kill users?

Florida seems to be the place for bath salts.

Red states seem to be the place for meth.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:45:10pm

Why the fear of different opinions?

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:45:13pm

I’ve been cheated, been mistreated
When will I be loved?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:45:42pm

re: #196 BigBadDemocrat

Why the fear of different opinions?

Who says we’re afraid? We just don’t like stupid people very much.

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wrenchwench  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:46:26pm

re: #196 BigBadDemocrat

Why the fear of different opinions?

Who has fear? Who has a different opinion?

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:46:27pm

re: #193 Kragar

That both did it does not make it right.

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:46:28pm

re: #196 BigBadDemocrat

Why the fear of different opinions?

You’re mistaking people not putting up with bullshit they’ve heard countless times before for fear.

A common mistake made by morons.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:46:31pm

re: #187 Bubblehead II

The only annoying thing, as I was skimming through that article, is that they use Clinton Cash as a reputable source to call into question the donation of the guy who they indicate wasn’t involved in the company that did nothing wrong in the first place at the time of the donation or transfer.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:47:01pm

re: #196 BigBadDemocrat

Why the fear of different opinions?

I don’t fear alt opinions, I detest alt facts.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:47:04pm

re: #196 BigBadDemocrat

Why the fear of different opinions?

All opinions are not equal.

Opinions that have been refuted with evidence a thousand times are no longer simply opinions, they are wilful ignorance (or trolling).

Wilful ignorance is a correctable condition (though it is not covered by the ACA).

The loving banhammer of correction is the cure for trolling.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:47:19pm

I’ve apparently missed the “opinion” part of the current stream of one line questions.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:47:30pm

re: #119 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Fox News, changing their slogan but still unconscious of irony.

I remember things being so quiet over at Fox Newz during the Obama years.

/

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:47:32pm

re: #204 Anymouse

All opinions are not equal.

Opinions that have been refuted with evidence a thousand times are no longer simply opinions, they are wilful ignorance (or trolling).

Wilful ignorance is a correctable condition (though it is not covered by the ACA).

The loving banhammer of correction is the cure for trolling.

I laughed out loud at that one.

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EPR-radar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:47:34pm

re: #176 BigBadDemocrat

Why must the one poster not toeing the line be banned?

OK, I’ll bite. With respect to toeing the line, my thesis is that US conservatism is a totally destructive ideology based on the desire of the rich to not pay their taxes. Its popularity is due to 1) right wing propaganda from Fox News and hate radio feeding the resentments of people who really ought to know better; and 2) both-siderism in the media continuing to pretend that real Republican atrocities are equivalent to imaginary Democrat atrocities, said both-siderism also being believed by many people who ought to know better.

It will be interesting to see if you have any reality-based counter argument to this.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:48:04pm

re: #165 BigBadDemocrat

Who gave the ok to sell 20% of U S uranium to Putin.

That would be the 9 Cabinet-level departments who all signed off on the ownership transfer when Rosatom bought UrAsia

Oh, and BTW, that uranium? Where do you suppose it is? Any guesses? Any guesses where it will stay, by law?

No?

Here in the US. You see, Rosatom may OWN it, but they can’t EXPORT IT.

So, maybe you need to give back those two degrees, because they don’t appear to have any value.

And I think I know why you haven’t found any jobs.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:48:19pm

re: #196 BigBadDemocrat

Why the fear of different opinions?

BBD: If am going to lower the IQ of the room but that’s OK.
BBD: Hey, why doesn’t anyone like that I have nothing factual or relevant to say?

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:49:18pm

So, the several hundred posters here have it correct and 200,000,000 others are wrong.

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:49:28pm

What have they done to my song, Ma?

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:49:57pm

re: #196 BigBadDemocrat

Why the fear of different opinions?

Have you actually stated an opinion? So far it’s all that “just asking questions” trolling bullshit that was old and tired years ago.
State an opinion and back it up. Or just keep on with the juvenile attempts at annoying.

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:50:26pm

re: #211 BigBadDemocrat

So, the several hundred posters here have it correct and 200,000,000 others are wrong.

Hooray! A magic trick!

Pull some more numbers out of your ass!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:50:32pm

re: #176 BigBadDemocrat

Why must the one poster not toeing the line be banned?

Why does the sun keep on shining?

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wrenchwench  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:50:59pm

re: #211 BigBadDemocrat

So, the several hundred posters here have it correct and 200,000,000 others are wrong.

[citation needed]

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EPR-radar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:51:01pm

re: #211 BigBadDemocrat

So, the several hundred posters here have it correct and 200,000,000 others are wrong.

That is actually how reality works, sunshine. Your swivel-eyed loon tent revival preachers can convince every US RWNJ that the earth is flat and 6,000 years old, and these will remain just as false as they always were.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:51:22pm

re: #211 BigBadDemocrat

So, the several hundred posters here have it correct and 200,000,000 others are wrong.

No see, there are facts, and there is a popularity contest. Argumentum ad popularum is not a proof.

You can go check out the Flat Earth Society.

You didn’t answer my question on whether you’re a creationist. Hundreds of millions of people (billions) in several religious traditions believe variants of that as well, and they are all wrong.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:51:49pm

re: #211 BigBadDemocrat

So, the several hundred posters here have it correct and 200,000,000 others are wrong.

Yep. A majority of the people on this planet believe that summer days are longer than those at any other time of the year. Guess what? They’re wrong.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:51:52pm

Why does the sea rush to shore?

221
sagehen  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:51:57pm

re: #215 Blind Frog Belly White

Why does the sun keep on shining?

Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near?

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bratwurst  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:52:05pm

Brilliant thread:

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SteelPH  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:52:10pm

Who’s on First?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:52:16pm

Don’t they know it’s the end of the world
‘Cause you don’t love me any more?

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:52:42pm

Are you lonely tonight?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:52:44pm

Why do the birds go on singing?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:52:59pm

Why do the stars glow above?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:53:14pm

When I post something to the Internet, does it make a sound?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:53:17pm

re: #226 Blind Frog Belly White

Why do the birds go on singing?

Is a frog’s ass watertight?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:53:19pm

re: #221 sagehen

Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near?

Why is the Great Plains plagued by tornadoes, whilst Dixie is plagued by hurricanes?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:53:23pm

Don’t they know it’s the end of the world?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:53:32pm

re: #227 Blind Frog Belly White

Why do the stars glow above?

Why do fools fall in love?

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:53:38pm

re: #208 EPR-radar

I am not rich, my parents where not and are not.

I am a reg. Democrat in Dallas County Texas.

I know that John Wiley Price is corrupt yet is re-elected term after term only because he has “Democrat” after his name on the ballot.

I know our local Sheriff Becky Valdez will not obey the laws of the U S A on immigration when 99% of other Texas cities do obey the laws of the U S A.

I had to compete with illegals for jobs the four years of college.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:53:43pm

I think Doug! over at Balloon Juice has gotten bored and is trolling over here for a bit.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:53:53pm

re: #228 klys (maker of Silmarils)

When I post something to the Internet, does it make a sound?

No, but it does when a troll posts something. Kind of a dull “fffffffphpththtphtpht”.

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blueraven  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:53:53pm

Why does my heart go on beating?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:53:56pm

re: #228 klys (maker of Silmarils)

When I post something to the Internet, does it make a sound?

My computer will go “ding” if I set it to do so, so yes, it makes a sound in the Nebraska Panhandle.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:54:01pm

Why does my heart go on beating?

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:54:02pm

re: #233 BigBadDemocrat

What’s the Ugliest Part of Your Body?

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EPR-radar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:54:08pm

re: #219 Belafon

Yep. A majority of the people on this planet believe that summer days are longer than those at any other time of the year. Guess what? They’re wrong.

Surely that’s a question that depends on definitions:

If ‘day’ is sunrise to sunset, then summer days will be longer than winter days at most latitudes.

If ‘day’ is noon to next noon then season makes no difference.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:54:32pm

re: #236 blueraven

re: #238 Blind Frog Belly White

Oooo! Beat me by 8 seconds!

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:54:42pm

re: #233 BigBadDemocrat

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lizardofid  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:54:48pm

re: #224 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t they know it’s the end of the world
‘Cause you don’t love me any more?

Upding for the earworm.

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bratwurst  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:54:57pm

Who wrote the book of love?

245
SteelPH  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:54:58pm

Which switch switches the winches?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:55:04pm

Why do the answers on Jeopardy have to be in the form of question?

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Bubblehead II  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:55:24pm

re: #215 Blind Frog Belly White

Why does the sun keep on shining?

Magnetism, how does it work?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:55:27pm

re: #243 lizardofid

Upding for the earworm.

I shouldn’t be the only one with it.

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SteelPH  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:55:47pm

Who does #2 work for?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:56:19pm

re: #233 BigBadDemocrat

I am not rich, my parents where not and are not.

I am a reg. Democrat in Dallas County Texas.

I know that John Wiley Price is corrupt yet is re-elected term after term only because he has “Democrat” after his name on the ballot.

I know our local Sheriff Becky Valdez will not obey the laws of the U S A on immigration when 99% of other Texas cities do obey the laws of the U S A.

I had to compete with illegals for jobs the four years of college.

Because lots of undocumented immigrants get jobs that require degrees.

No sheriff anywhere in the country is required to enforce Federal laws. The Federal government cannot put that unfunded mandate on local taxpayers, nice try.

Gee, I know this stuff and I’ve never been to college. And I have a job. Two, actually (though one is unpaid).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:56:24pm

What…is your name?

252
jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:56:35pm

Have you ever seen the rain?

253
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:56:36pm

What….is your quest?

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:56:43pm

re: #249 SteelPH

Who does #2 work for?

Show that turd who’s boss!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:56:50pm

re: #253 Blind Frog Belly White

What….is your quest?

What… is the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:56:54pm

What….is your favorite color?

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EPR-radar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:57:12pm

re: #253 Blind Frog Belly White

What….is your quest?

What….is your favorite color?

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:57:23pm

re: #196 BigBadDemocrat

Why the fear of different opinions?

Narcissistic Injury

Basically, extreme ideologies often are group narcissistic in nature. Group narcissism is basically like plain vanilla garden variety narcissism, only that the narcissistic investment is in the ethnic, national, political, or religious group the individual belongs to rather than the self.

In all other aspects it is as pathological as plain vanilla garden variety narcissism. A different opinion is perceived as a threat to the individuals image of the group he or she belongs to.

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:57:29pm

What is the capital of Assyria?

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darthstar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:57:33pm

re: #163 Blind Frog Belly White

Angora’s a city?

I thought it was a rabbit.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:57:53pm

re: #218 Anymouse

Do not go to church.

They too look down on me and my family.

A good self awareness helps.

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:58:09pm

Do you know the way to San Jose?
Can you speak comfortably to a venture capitalist?

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:58:12pm

re: #233 BigBadDemocrat

I am not rich, my parents where not and are not.

I am a reg. Democrat in Dallas County Texas.

I know that John Wiley Price is corrupt yet is re-elected term after term only because he has “Democrat” after his name on the ballot.

I know our local Sheriff Becky Valdez will not obey the laws of the U S A on immigration when 99% of other Texas cities do obey the laws of the U S A.

I had to compete with illegals for jobs the four years of college.

Waaaaah. I’m in a suburb of Dallas. 99% of the cities and towns might, but they represent a fraction of the population, considering San Antonio, Houston, and Austin are joining them. As for your job prospects, there are help wanted signs everywhere, and I get notices for jobs in the area every day. Even my son, who’s in between bachelors (two degrees for him) and heading off to work on his PhD, managed to get a job for the summer.

So, suck it up, bottle up your feelings, and go find work.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:58:31pm

re: #260 darthstar

I thought it was a rabbit.

It’s a floor wax and a dessert topping.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:58:44pm

Who slits sheets with the sheet slitter’s daughter while the sheet slitter’s daughter’s slitting sheets?

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:59:06pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:59:06pm

re: #262 jaunte

Do you know the way to San Jose?
Can you speak comfortably to a venture capitalist?

Now I’m thinking about going downtown for dinner. Dammit jaunte.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:59:18pm

re: #240 EPR-radar

Surely that’s a question that depends on definitions:

If ‘day’ is sunrise to sunset, then summer days will be longer than winter days at most latitudes.

If ‘day’ is noon to next noon then season makes no difference.

True, but they’re not longer than spring days. I did leave it open to any other time of the year.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:59:24pm

re: #259 Kragar

What is the capital of Assyria?

Ninevah.

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:59:30pm

WHY CAN’T WE BE FRIENDS?

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majii  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:59:33pm

I’m hoping Scalise has a speedy recovery, but I cannot pray for GOPers in Congress because their actions against all gun control legislation led to them becoming targets at baseball practice this morning. If their hearts were filled with terror when this shooting occurred, they experienced what other victims of these types of shootings have experienced. Until this incident occurred, they displayed little/no concern for those 20 kids and six school staff-members who died at Sandy Hook, for the 49 persons who died in Orlando, for the Americans who died in Colorado, etc. I’m usually a compassionate person, but I have none for these NRA supporting, gun manufacturer supporting, tools. I’ve reached a stage in my life in which I’ve decided I’m tired of putting up with others’ BS which is why I’m totally unconcerned about Ryan claiming that “an attack against one of us is an attack against all of us,” because it’s BS. Where was his concern for all of the other Americans who died in mass shootings? Why didn’t he take to the airwaves to express support for their families? Why has he said nothing about some of our kids getting access to guns and killing themselves and/or others? These are rhetorical questions because I already know the answers. I’m so through with these liars, shills, and cowards.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 1:59:59pm

re: #261 BigBadDemocrat

Do not go to church.

They too look down on me and my family.

A good self awareness helps.

I can’t speak to your particular church as I am an atheist. The church in my town does not look down on me (nor do the people in my town) for that. They don’t look down on me for being poor, either.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:00:15pm

re: #250 Anymouse

Your opinion of Mexico’s border controls, immigration laws and land ownership?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:00:17pm

re: #266 Kragar

Who is it?

[Embedded content]

WHOOOOOOOOOOO are you?
Who? Who?
Who? Who?

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blueraven  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:00:32pm

Who wrote the book of love?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:00:38pm

Notice, btw, what happens when you feed the troll. Don’t be that person and feed the troll.

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:00:42pm

Who made who?

ACDC Who Made Who

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SteelPH  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:00:52pm

What is love?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:00:55pm

re: #276 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Notice, btw, what happens when you feed the troll. Don’t be that person and feed the troll.

Right. Trolls are made for barbecuing.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:01:01pm

Who are you?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:01:11pm

re: #278 SteelPH

What is love?

Baby don’t hurt me.

Don’t hurt me.

No more.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:01:39pm

re: #245 SteelPH

Which switch switches the winches?

Oooh! I know that one!
It’s the winch-switching switch, right?

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:02:13pm

re: #273 BigBadDemocrat

Your opinion of Mexico’s border controls, immigration laws and land ownership?

Will you still love me tomorrow?

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:02:23pm

re: #249 SteelPH

Who does #2 work for?

I don’t know, but I heard he has to work harder.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:03:25pm

I have to log out. The state government folks who control water systems in cities are sitting over at the village hall and they want to talk to me about things needing corrections.

Catch y’all later.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:03:32pm

One of my current two jobs calls, an appointment.

Look inward and reflect.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:03:52pm

What do you want?

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:04:13pm

re: #286 BigBadDemocrat

One of my current two jobs calls, an appointment.

Look inward and reflect.

Is she really going out with him?

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:05:16pm

‘Cos if my eyes don’t deceive me, there’s something going wrong around here…

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makeitstop  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:05:26pm

re: #281 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Baby don’t hurt me.

Don’t hurt me.

No more.

I thought instead of this one. Big 80s.

Howard Jones - What Is Love

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:05:32pm

I tried rolling my eyes back far enough to look inward but it was all pretty dark. No reflections to be seen.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:05:33pm

re: #286 BigBadDemocrat

One of my current two jobs calls, an appointment.

Look inward and reflect.

I’m all wet, mushy stuff inside, nothing’s reflective.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:05:34pm

re: #273 BigBadDemocrat

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Bubblehead II  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:06:46pm

re: #286 BigBadDemocrat

One of my current two jobs calls, an appointment.

Look inward and reflect.

And with that, the troll flees

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:07:38pm

Wow:

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:08:18pm

re: #292 Belafon

I’m all wet, mushy stuff inside, nothing’s reflective.

Help, my eyes are crossed an I can’t get them unstuck!

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Nyet  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:08:43pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:10:15pm

re: #276 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Notice, btw, what happens when you feed the troll. Don’t be that person and feed the troll.

I go back and forth on the troll-feeding question.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:11:26pm

re: #286 BigBadDemocrat

One of my current two jobs calls, an appointment.

Look inward and reflect.

Here’s the thing…

Here’s the thing…

Most if not all of your questions, on which you’d like us to reflect, are bullshit, like the Hadley CRU email nonsense, or the Rosatom Uranium thing. So, when you ask us to reflect on long-debunked wingnut email outrages, what we’ll be reflecting on is just how stupid/ill-informed/juvenile YOU are, and you’ll have given us EXCELLENT justification for doing so.

So, perhaps instead, YOU should reflect on just why you seem to believe so much that is objectively, demonstrably wrong, and how this may affect your worldview. Also, why your worldview leads you to believing things that are demonstrably untrue.

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:11:27pm

re: #280 Blind Frog Belly White

Who are you?

[Embedded content]

re: #287 Blind Frog Belly White

What do you want?

[Embedded content]

PAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!

Image: 9fd928487c536a90eeebf76cd9bd5022.jpg

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:11:42pm

re: #300 Teukka

PAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!

All I know is pain…

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:11:51pm

re: #220 Blind Frog Belly White

Why does the sea rush to shore?

Can’t explain that! (to idiots)

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:12:01pm

re: #186 klys (maker of Silmarils)

[Embedded content]

A 21 year old park concessions employee.

Damn.

I don’t think anything could be as painful as that. What are the temps of some of those springs? 200+°

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:12:45pm

re: #295 Belafon

Wow:

[Embedded content]

I wonder who the two were.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:12:59pm

re: #288 jaunte

Is she really going out with him?

Is she really gonna take him home tonight?

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:13:13pm

re: #301 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

All I know is pain…

Image: 9fd928487c536a90eeebf76cd9bd5022.jpg

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:13:15pm

re: #196 BigBadDemocrat

Why the fear of different opinions?

Why all the lame cliches?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:13:54pm

re: #301 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

All I know is pain…

Life IS pain, Highness. Anyone who tells you different is trying to sell you something.

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:14:21pm

I hope we’ve given our visitor a lot of earworms to think about.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:14:31pm

re: #307 ObserverArt

Why all the lame cliches?

Wait, is that ‘la-may’ cliches? Like gold lame?

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:14:51pm

re: #299 Blind Frog Belly White

Here’s the thing…

[Embedded content]

Most if not all of your questions, on which you’d like us to reflect, are bullshit, like the Hadley CRU email nonsense, or the Rosatom Uranium thing. So, when you ask us to reflect on long-debunked wingnut email outrages, what we’ll be reflecting on is just how stupid/ill-informed/juvenile YOU are, and you’ll have given us EXCELLENT justification for doing so.

So, perhaps instead, YOU should reflect on just why you seem to believe so much that is objectively, demonstrably wrong, and how this may affect your worldview. Also, why your worldview leads you to believing things that are demonstrably untrue.

It’s just like someone sent a reporter for the NYT an email yesterday complaining about how Trump was being treated after Obama and Hillary had a plane right there to rescue those at Benghazi and they wouldn’t do it. Like that was a statement of fact.

Wingnuts use all that bullshit as statements of fact and there is no dissuading them from what is incorrect.

I think you’ll likely get the same response here.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:14:53pm

Hello, is it me you’re looking for?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:15:01pm

re: #309 jaunte

I hope we’ve given our visitor a lot of earworms to think about.

If it weren’t for the collateral damage, I’d unleash The Doomsday Earworm.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:15:12pm

re: #303 ObserverArt

Damn.

I don’t think anything could be as painful as that. What are the temps of some of those springs? 200+°

How about the guy who tried to take a bath in one of the hot springs which turned out to be full of acid, completely dissolving him away before his sister could bring help.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:15:53pm

re: #314 Belafon

How about the guy who tried to take a bath in one of the hot spring which turned out to be full of acid, completely dissolving him away before his sister could bring help.

That sounds 1000 Ways to Die worthy. Terrible yet in a way almost darkly humorous.

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:16:04pm

re: #305 Blind Frog Belly White

Is she really gonna take him home tonight?

Depends on Who’s Zooming Who?

Aretha Franklin~ ” Who’s Zoomin Who ” 💜~ 1985

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blueraven  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:16:12pm

re: #295 Belafon

Wow:

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:16:16pm

Will you still love me tomorrow?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:16:34pm

re: #314 Belafon

How about the guy who tried to take a bath in one of the hot spring which turned out to be full of acid, completely dissolving him away before his sister could bring help.

Nature can be very unkind to the stupid and the unlucky.

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Nyet  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:16:40pm

re: #9 Franklin

Photo on the left is fake.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:16:55pm

re: #318 HappyWarrior

Will you still love me tomorrow?

Will you still respect me in the morning?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:17:05pm

re: #317 blueraven

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Paul and Lee, Dumb and Dumber of libertarian bros.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:17:10pm

re: #315 HappyWarrior

That sounds 1000 Ways to Die worthy. Terrible yet in a way almost darkly humorous.

Dumb Ways to Die

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:17:28pm

re: #321 Blind Frog Belly White

Will you still respect me in the morning?

Assumption that you were respected in the evening aside…. ;-)

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Bubblehead II  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:17:36pm

re: #309 jaunte

I hope we’ve given our visitor a lot of earworms to think about.

Well it cost him 65 70 karma points. Was at 75 when s/he started. Now down to 10 5 and falling.

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:18:47pm

re: #323 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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[♪] Portal - Dumb Ways To Die

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EPR-radar  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:20:10pm

re: #311 MsJ

It’s just like someone sent a reporter for the NYT an email yesterday complaining about how Trump was being treated after Obama and Hillary had a plane right there to rescue those at Benghazi and they wouldn’t do it. Like that was a statement of fact.

Wingnuts use all that bullshit as statements of fact and there is no dissuading them from what is incorrect.

I think you’ll likely get the same response here.

That’s why my only ask of Republicans is a respect for objective reality. That one change would be enough to turn Republicans back into a normal center-right party within the normal bounds of politics.

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:20:12pm

re: #223 SteelPH

Who’s on First?

Right after the Bee Gees.

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:20:50pm

re: #326 Teukka

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On a related note, ever consider politicizing “Dumb ways to die”? Semi-///

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EPR-radar  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:21:44pm

re: #329 Teukka

On a related note, ever consider politicizing “Dumb ways to die”? Semi-///

Voting Republican is a dumb way to die for all of their voters who aren’t filthy rich.

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:22:45pm

re: #239 jaunte

What’s the Ugliest Part of Your Body?

Some say your nose
Some say your toes…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:22:56pm

re: #330 EPR-radar

Voting Republican is a dumb way to die for all of their voters who aren’t filthy rich.

Voting Democrat is a dumb way to die for … uhh … fetuses, I guess? I dunno, I got nothin’.

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unproven innocence  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:24:28pm

re: #240 EPR-radar

Surely that’s a question that depends on definitions:

If ‘day’ is sunrise to sunset, then summer days will be longer than winter days at most latitudes.

If ‘day’ is noon to next noon then season makes no difference.

You are a bit wrong about “makes no difference.” The interval from one “high noon” to the next is slightly longer when Earth is closer to the Sun than when Earth is farther away. Altho if by “noon” you simply meant 12:00, then nevermind.

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Belafon  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:26:23pm

Harris going after Sessions:

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:26:41pm

re: #288 jaunte

Is she really going out with him?

You can read it in the Sunday papers…Sunday papers

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:28:35pm

re: #133 BigBadDemocrat

How did Rome fall?

Which time? The end of the Kingdom of Rome? The end of the Republic? The Year of 5 Emperors? September 4, 476 CE? Trying to use the fall of Rome as a metaphor for the current situation as the US falls apart due to an incompetent and illegitimate President is almost as sophomoric as a Donald Trump foreign policy speech.

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:29:10pm

re: #314 Belafon

How about the guy who tried to take a bath in one of the hot springs which turned out to be full of acid, completely dissolving him away before his sister could bring help.

Can’t say I heard that one. Damn.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:31:38pm

re: #337 ObserverArt

Can’t say I heard that one. Damn.

November of last year. Really gruesome

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:31:46pm

re: #336 William Lewis

It seems it’s a meme.
google.com

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:32:45pm

re: #338 Hecuba’s daughter

November of last year. Really gruesome

Just did a Google search and found it. Yikes. That is nightmarish.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:33:18pm

re: #339 jaunte

It seems it’s a meme.
google.com

Jesus H. Fucking Christ.

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EPR-radar  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:34:36pm

re: #333 unproven innocence

You are a bit wrong about “makes no difference.” The interval from one “high noon” to the next is slightly longer when Earth is closer to the Sun than when Earth is farther away. Altho if by “noon” you simply meant 12:00, then nevermind.

I love this kind of attention to technical detail. Obligatory pedant mode on: this effect is independent of season because the earth is closest to the sun during the northern hemisphere winter (which is the southern hemisphere summer).

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majii  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:36:58pm

re: #301 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“All I know is pain…”

Thanks for the Teen Titans reference. I love that ‘toon.

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makeitstop  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:37:06pm

re: #335 ObserverArt

You can read it in the Sunday papers…Sunday papers

What’s a few broken bones when we all know it’s good clean fun?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:38:00pm

re: #343 majii

“All I know is pain…”

Thanks for the Teen Titans reference. I love that ‘toon.

Of course. I’m glad somebody caught it.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:39:42pm

Did I miss all the gamey buttocks or did someone save some for me?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:40:25pm

re: #333 unproven innocence

You are a bit wrong about “makes no difference.” The interval from one “high noon” to the next is slightly longer when Earth is closer to the Sun than when Earth is farther away. Altho if by “noon” you simply meant 12:00, then nevermind.

The Railroad-Watch-collecting pedant in me wishes to point out that prior to the establishment of Standard Time, 12:00 was defined locally by the sun being at its zenith.

Imagine trying to work out a timetable for trains running at different speeds, even opposing directions on the same track without colliding, without Standard Time.

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jaunte  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:40:26pm

re: #346 Timothy Watson

You know that thing where people answer a question with a question?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:40:54pm

re: #346 Timothy Watson

Did I miss all the gamey buttocks or did someone save some for me?

The bugger scarpered. It’ll be back for more, though.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:41:10pm

re: #346 Timothy Watson

Did I miss all the gamey buttocks or did someone save some for me?

By putting your post in the form of a question, you have indeed captured the very gist of the troll roast.

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:41:51pm

re: #344 makeitstop

What’s a few broken bones when we all know it’s good clean fun?

Some people get crazy
Some people get lazy
Some people get hazy
Some people get out

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:41:58pm

re: #348 jaunte

You know that thing where people answer a question with a question?

Is that you, Alex Trebek?

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Timothy Watson  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:44:42pm

re: #352 Blind Frog Belly White

Is that you, Alex Trebek?

What is “your mother’s a whore, Trebek!”?

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Brian J.  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:45:14pm

re: #114 Anymouse

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I’d take this as seriously as I take any other perp reading a legally-required statement. That is, not at all.

It’s time for Bernie to be removed from the Democratic caucus and for Our (Violent) Revoution to be shut down. Or the Senate can expel him and he can shriek his hatred in the Green Mountains.

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:45:17pm

re: #339 jaunte

It seems it’s a meme.
google.com

Ah. Junk history to go with right wing junk science.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:46:09pm

re: #353 Timothy Watson

What is “your mother’s a whore, Trebek!”?

“I’ll take The Rapists for $400, Alex!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:47:49pm

re: #354 Brian J.

I’d take this as seriously as I take any other perp reading a legally-required statement. That is, not at all.

It’s time for Bernie to be removed from the Democratic caucus and for Our (Violent) Revoution to be shut down. Or the Senate can expel him and he can shriek his hatred in the Green Mountains.

Dafuq? Expelled from the Senate for never inciting violence but having one of tens of millions of supporters be a violent nutbag? The Senate would be empty.

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makeitstop  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:47:58pm

re: #351 ObserverArt

Some people get crazy
Some people get lazy
Some people get hazy
Some people get out

What the hell is wrong with you tonight? :)

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:50:20pm

Oh my god.

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weave  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:51:10pm

WTF Facebook? Remember and celebrate his life? I know this is probably an automated thing but something like this, you can’t spare one human 5 minutes to deal with this manually?

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:51:42pm

re: #359 MsJ

Oh my god.

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At least 12 dead. They haven’t searched the building yet. :(

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:51:45pm

Turns out they’re little punks.

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Brian J.  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:51:57pm

re: #357 Blind Frog Belly White

Dafuq? Expelled from the Senate for never inciting violence but having one of tens of millions of supporters be a violent nutbag? The Senate would be empty.

When you’re constantly calling for Revolution!…
When you encourage your followers to threaten political opponents on- and offline…
When you explicitly call for the will of the people to be overturned…
When your supporters repeatedly foment violence (NV caucuses, NV State Dem convention, Philly national convention, etc.) and you are silent and your surrogates outright approve…

When this is done by the right, we call it stochastic terrorism; keep pushing, pushing, pushing your followers toward violence and eventually a few will snap. When it’s done by the left, we should call it the same thing. The Democrats need to finally find the spine to stand up to this infiltrator and show him the door.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:52:03pm

I thought Homer was a greek poet.

Homer
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darthstar  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:53:15pm

So the fucker who shot the fucker died. Good.

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:54:03pm
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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:54:44pm

re: #361 Teukka

At least 12 dead. They haven’t searched the building yet. :(

It’s still burning in some places.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:54:52pm

At least 4 killed in San Francisco UPS facility shooting - TV news

aol.com

This is why I have no patience for trolls.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:55:23pm

re: #366 Kragar

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Fianlly some positive news on a tough day.

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:55:26pm

re: #358 makeitstop

What the hell is wrong with you tonight? :)

Well, such a crazy day in the world, all the mad people, then the trolling and I decided I don’t wanna to be like that.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:57:15pm

I’m thinking I should make a frittata next week. Mushrooms, onion, sausage…hmmm. Do I do any greens or just make a side something green to go with it?

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:57:32pm

re: #367 MsJ

It’s still burning in some places.

Yeah, the concrete retains heat very well, so they will have flare-ups for a handful of days before they have it officially put out.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:58:37pm

re: #372 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m thinking I should make a frittata next week. Mushrooms, onion, sausage…hmmm. Do I do any greens or just make a side something green to go with it?

Peppers?

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darthstar  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:59:16pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:59:30pm

re: #179 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hey Frenchy, if you really hate my running comments, you want to say something instead of just repeatedly downdinging them? I wrote the first one this week off as a misfire, but that’s twice now.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2017 • 2:59:52pm

re: #363 Brian J.

When you’re constantly calling for Revolution!…
When you encourage your followers to threaten political opponents on- and offline…
When you explicitly call for the will of the people to be overturned…
When your supporters repeatedly foment violence (NV caucuses, NV State Dem convention, Philly national convention, etc.) and you are silent and your surrogates outright approve…

When this is done by the right, we call it stochastic terrorism; keep pushing, pushing, pushing your followers toward violence and eventually a few will snap. When it’s done by the left, we should call it the same thing. The Democrats need to finally find the spine to stand up to this infiltrator and show him the door.

I’ve never been a Bernie fan and am still upset by his damage to Clinton, but I don’t think his action merits expulsion from the Senate. The term Revolution has been so watered down that it’s lost much of its original violent connotations. We have revolutions everywhere: Revolution in car design — a revolution in technology etc. It now means a major (or not so major) change in operation.

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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:00:49pm

re: #280 Blind Frog Belly White

Who are you?

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re: #287 Blind Frog Belly White

What do you want?

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Where are you going?

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:01:47pm

re: #372 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m thinking I should make a frittata next week. Mushrooms, onion, sausage…hmmm. Do I do any greens or just make a side something green to go with it?

It’s screaming spinach to me.

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:02:22pm

re: #373 Teukka

Yeah, the concrete retains heat very well, so they will have flare-ups for a handful of days before they have it officially put out.

A bunch of firefighters have been injured (all minor injuries) already.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:02:50pm

re: #374 HappyWarrior

Peppers?

I prefer them raw to cooked, normally. I don’t know, maybe some mild chiles could be good?

re: #379 MsJ

It’s screaming spinach to me.

Ugh, no, sorry. Cooked spinach is an abomination to all things. (I’m fine with it raw.)

There’s a theme here, I like most veggies better raw than cooked.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:03:21pm

After George Wallace was shot in 1972 (I do not remember the political affiliation of the person that shot him) he repented from his evil ways and spent the rest of his life denouncing racism.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:03:51pm

re: #381 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I prefer them raw to cooked, normally. I don’t know, maybe some mild chiles could be good?

Ugh, no, sorry. Cooked spinach is an abomination to all things. (I’m fine with it raw.)

There’s a theme here, I like most veggies better raw than cooked.

NOw, I’m the total opposite. I like cooked veggies more. The chilies is a good idea though.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:04:16pm

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

After George Wallace was shot in 1972 (I do not remember the political affiliation of the person that shot him) he repented from his evil ways and spent the rest of his life denouncing racism.

YEah I remember reading about that. Bremer IIRC was apolitical but inspired by Catcher in the Rye if I’m not mistaken. He later inspired the movie Taxi Driver which inspired Hinckley.

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:04:23pm

re: #377 Hecuba’s daughter

I’ve never been a Bernie fan and am still upset by his damage to Clinton, but I don’t think his action merits expulsion from the Senate. The term Revolution has been so watered down that it’s lost much of its original violent connotations. We have revolutions everywhere: Revolution in car design — a revolution in technology etc. It now means a major (or not so major) change in operation.

I think some rock band did a song called Revolution. Sort of put the term into the pop realm.

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Teukka  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:04:51pm

re: #380 MsJ

A bunch of firefighters have been injured (all minor injuries) already.

Tends to happen during highrise and tunnel gigs. A couple of years back, a tanning bed at a gym next door caught fire, injuring one firefighter when the basement flashed over.

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:05:01pm

re: #381 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I love, love, love spinach in any form. I put it in spaghetti (tonight’s entree) and just about everything that needs more veg.

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Brian J.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:05:40pm

re: #377 Hecuba’s daughter

I’ve never been a Bernie fan and am still upset by his damage to Clinton, but I don’t think his action merits expulsion from the Senate. The term Revolution has been so watered down that it’s lost much of its original violent connotations. We have revolutions everywhere: Revolution in car design — a revolution in technology etc. It now means a major (or not so major) change in operation.

Sanders was quite explicit what he meant when he called for Revolution- “a million people outside Mitch McConnell’s office,” with the implication that those people will force McConnell’s hand because might makes right. (Sanders lost the KY primary, of course.)

You’re right not to try to defend him on the rest; there’s really no logical defense. The Democrats must be rid of the guy or be tainted by association.

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Jack Burton  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:05:51pm

re: #356 Blind Frog Belly White

“I’ll take The Rapists for $400, Alex!”

“I’ll take catch the semen for $800.”

“It’s ‘catch these men’, not ‘catch the…”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:05:59pm

re: #385 ObserverArt

I think some rock band did a song called Revolution. Sort of put the term into the pop realm.

The Bugs right? // But yeah God knows I don’t like Bernie much at all but this is bs IMO especially when Bernie has a Senate colleague who literally tweeted the 2nd amendment is for the government.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:07:17pm

re: #388 Brian J.

Sanders was quite explicit what he meant when he called for Revolution- “a million people outside Mitch McConnell’s office,” with the implication that those people will force McConnell’s hand because might makes right. (Sanders lost the KY primary, of course.)

You’re right not to try to defend him on the rest; there’s really no logical defense. The Democrats must be rid of the guy or be tainted by association.

And teh million people outside Mitch’s office. That’s different from raising tough questions at a Town Hall. God man, I don’t like Sanders any more than you do but you’re really stretching it here by calling for him to be expelled over this and his PAC to be shut down.

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makeitstop  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:07:26pm

re: #379 MsJ

It’s screaming spinach to me.

Band name!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:07:58pm

re: #392 makeitstop

Band name!

Popeye and the Screaming Spinach?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:09:28pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:09:54pm

re: #381 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I prefer them raw to cooked, normally. I don’t know, maybe some mild chiles could be good?

Ugh, no, sorry. Cooked spinach is an abomination to all things. (I’m fine with it raw.)

There’s a theme here, I like most veggies better raw than cooked.

I like raw more too, it’s why I eat a lot of salads. I do like veggies cooked at high heat in a wok Asian style. Fast and keeps the crispness of most vegetables.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:10:43pm

I like Asparagus a lot. That’s a good veggie.

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Brian J.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:11:21pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

I like Asparagus a lot. That’s a good veggie.

Agreed. I would never disparage your asparagus.

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Varek Raith  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:11:52pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

I like Asparagus a lot. That’s a good veggie.

It’s actually a fruit.
/

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scottslemmons  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:12:23pm

re: #391 HappyWarrior

And teh million people outside Mitch’s office. That’s different from raising tough questions at a Town Hall. God man, I don’t like Sanders any more than you do but you’re really stretching it here by calling for him to be expelled over this and his PAC to be shut down.

It should require actual misconduct to censure or eject someone out of office. “Having a crazy person who likes you” doesn’t rise to the level.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:12:24pm

re: #398 Varek Raith

It’s actually a fruit.
/

FOOD FIGHT!!!!

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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:12:45pm

re: #394 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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A barren, desolate wasteland devoid of all life…there’s a “flyover country” joke in there somewhere.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:13:21pm

re: #151 BigBadDemocrat

What percentage of the MS-13 members are U S citizens.

One million plus one percent.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:13:28pm

re: #399 scottslemmons

It should require actual misconduct to censure or eject someone out of office. “Having a crazy person who likes you” doesn’t rise to the level.

Exactly. I mean I don’t like Sanders at all but this just rubs me the wrong way.

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weave  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:13:56pm

re: #388 Brian J.

Sanders was quite explicit what he meant when he called for Revolution- “a million people outside Mitch McConnell’s office,” with the implication that those people will force McConnell’s hand because might makes right. (Sanders lost the KY primary, of course.)

You’re right not to try to defend him on the rest; there’s really no logical defense. The Democrats must be rid of the guy or be tainted by association.

The guy did the best he could to poison Clinton during the primaries. I voted for the guy in the Delaware primary and before that contributed to his campaign, and regretted it 10 minutes after I got in my car to go home. I heard him respond on the radio to a question about supporting Clinton if he should lose. His response was some BS like “I can’t tell my supporters who they are going to support, that’s their decision.”

I started screaming FUCK YOU in the car and have regretted my former support ever since.

There’s a reason too many of his supporters continued to hate on Clinton after the primaries, and that was because he let them run wild with the emails, wall street angles and even Benghazi as well as fanning those flames.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:14:21pm

re: #403 HappyWarrior

Exactly. I mean I don’t like Sanders at all but this just rubs me the wrong way.

It’s like blaming Jodie Foster for Reagan’s attempted assassination.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:14:22pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

I like Asparagus a lot. That’s a good veggie.

re: #398 Varek Raith

It’s actually a fruit.
/

And it’s very good on pizza.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:14:25pm

re: #133 BigBadDemocrat

How did Rome fall?

Bad wine and herpes.

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Varek Raith  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:14:59pm

re: #406 Decatur Deb

And it’s very good on pizza.

That’s actually true.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:15:11pm

re: #404 weave

The guy did the best he could to poison Clinton during the primaries. I voted for the guy in the Delaware primary and before that contributed to his campaign, and regretted it 10 minutes after I got in my car to go home. I heard him respond on the radio to a question about supporting Clinton if he should lose. His response was some BS like “I can’t tell my supporters who they are going to support, that’s their decision.”

I started screaming FUCK YOU in the car and have regretted my former support ever since.

There’s a reason too many of his supporters continued to hate on Clinton after the primaries, and that was because he let them run wild with the emails, wall street angles and even Benghazi as well as fanning those flames.

All the above makes him an asshole, not a terrorist.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:16:36pm

re: #407 Ace Rothstein

Bad wine and herpes.

Ah. You knew Fallopia the Falernian.

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scottslemmons  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:16:40pm

I’m also not sure taking an old coot who’s basically on our side and turning him into a martyr for the benefit of Republicans is actually a smart move.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:16:50pm

re: #409 I Would Prefer Not To

All the above makes him an asshole, not a terrorist.

Exactly.

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:18:23pm

re: #392 makeitstop

Band name!

I liked it too.

I also got a quick idea for a little fun video.

Mom is in the kitchen and she turns from the sink to see her son pulling a container of spinach from the ‘fridge.

Before she can warn him, he opens the container. There is a loud screeching. It is the spinach screaming. The leaves had released their pent up frustration at their lot in life.

From inside the living room, dad awakens from his nap and yells: “Hey keep it down out there…I’m watching CNN!!!”

Mom gives that ‘I know you did that on purpose’ look to her son and says “Now you know how spinach upsets your father.”

And the son laughs as he bites down on a handful of raw spinach leaves.

The end.

Heh.

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TedStriker  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:19:04pm

re: #353 Timothy Watson

What is “your mother’s a whore, Trebek!”?

“I’ll take ‘Anal Bum Cover’, Alex.”
“That’s ‘Album Cover’, Sean!”

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gocart mozart  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:20:04pm

Anybody have any thoughts on Murphy in 2020

At age of 44, he already has six years in the house and 4 in the Senate.
en.wikipedia.org

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Brian J.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:20:28pm

re: #399 scottslemmons

It should require actual misconduct to censure or eject someone out of office. “Having a crazy person who likes you” doesn’t rise to the level.

Having a million crazy people who like you, whom you constantly keep at a fever pitch with outright lies about everyone else on the political scene, who insult and threaten opponents online and offline with you tacit approval and your surrogates’ explicit approval, and whom you never criticize before one of them nearly murders a Congressman? That does.

It’s time for Bernie and his army to be given their Bad Conduct Discharges.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:20:49pm

Sigh.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:20:53pm

re: #415 gocart mozart

Anybody have any thoughts on Murphy in 2020

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At age of 44, he already has six years in the house and 4 in the Senate.
en.wikipedia.org

I like him for how he’s talked gun politics since Sandy Hook but would like to learn more.

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Brian J.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:21:12pm

re: #407 Ace Rothstein

Bad wine and herpes.

And lead poisoning and Germans.

420
Varek Raith  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:21:14pm

Caucus99percent.

Won’t link them, but they are part of the problem.

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bratwurst  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:22:06pm

re: #416 Brian J.

Having a million crazy people who like you, whom you constantly keep at a fever pitch with outright lies about everyone else on the political scene, who insult and threaten opponents online and offline with you tacit approval and your surrogates’ explicit approval, and whom you never criticize before one of them nearly murders a Congressman? That does.

It’s time for Bernie and his army to be given their Bad Conduct Discharges.

Cut this shit out already. Please.

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Brian J.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:23:02pm

re: #421 bratwurst

Cut this shit out already. Please.

That’s what we’ve been telling the junior Psycho Psenator from Vermont for 18 months. I intend to take your entreaty as seriously as he does.

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TedStriker  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:24:42pm

re: #354 Brian J.

I don’t really care for Bernie and think that he’s still trying to impose his will on the Democrats (via the ratfucking by his Bernouts), but:

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Timothy Watson  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:25:00pm

re: #417 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Sigh.

Exasperated sigh.

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gocart mozart  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:25:12pm

re: #416 Brian J.

You’re out of line and are coming across as deranged as Donald Trump Jr. You can criticize Bernie for a lot of things but not this.

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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:25:42pm

re: #424 Timothy Watson

Exasperated sigh.

Exhausted sigh.

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bratwurst  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:25:42pm

re: #422 Brian J.

That’s what we’ve been telling the junior Psycho Psenator from Vermont for 18 months. I intend to take your entreaty as seriously as he does.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:26:13pm

Surprising no one…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:26:14pm

Alright, folks, we get it. Bernie’s an asshole. His Bros are evil little douchecanoes; one of them just committed a terrorist attack. So fucking what? He denounced the attack, that’s good enough for me. He’s still an asshole, I still want him to go away, but put the shoe on the other foot and ask yourself what should happen if the shooter’s cover photo had been an “I’m with Her” banner. And don’t give me any shit about “HUUURP DUUURP THEN IT NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED”, because guess what? It damn well could have, you can’t guarantee it wouldn’t. So if your honest answer to my hypothetical isn’t the exact same as what you want to have happen to Bernie, you can STFD; STFU; GTFO; or DIAF, whichever suits your pleasure.

/Rant off.

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Targetpractice  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:27:35pm

re: #428 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Surprising no one…

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$20 says Trump fires Mueller before summer’s end.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:28:03pm

re: #430 Targetpractice

$20 says Trump fires Mueller before summer’s end start.

Fixed that for you.

(Debated between that and week’s end.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:29:40pm

re: #431 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Fixed that for you.

(Debated between that and week’s end.)

I think week’s end might just have been more accurate.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:29:48pm

re: #431 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Fixed that for you.

(Debated between that and week’s end.)

Could be the end of the week now that he has cover.

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Brian J.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:30:30pm

re: #411 scottslemmons

I’m also not sure taking an old coot who’s basically on our side and turning him into a martyr for the benefit of Republicans is actually a smart move.

He’s never been on any side but his own, and I doubt very much there’s much interest in people following his vaporous cause once he’s deposed. Our Violent Revolution has demonstrated that it is nothing without its Dear Leader, as its minions attack anyone seen as a threat, including candidates it endorsed literally yesterday.

This isn’t about Republicans. There are still more Sandbaggers out there, nearing their limits before they snap.

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ObserverArt  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:30:31pm

Strange day. Strange tone tonight at LGF.

I think I am going to go yank out some weeds…maybe a quick workout on the drums. I have some spinach to pop stems, wash and spin too.

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Varek Raith  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:32:03pm

What’s done is done.
At this point, Bernie has no sway over these kooks. They worship Saint Bernie, not Real Bernie.

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Nyet  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:32:19pm
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sauceruney  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:33:19pm

Couldn’t help but notice sites like Salon and AlterNet glossing over the shooter’s Hillary hatred, like that didn’t have relevance too.

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Nyet  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:33:34pm

That particular guy is unhinged. You know who I am talking about.

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Varek Raith  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:34:17pm

re: #437 Nyet

Geez, wtf is wrong with these people?

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EPR-radar  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:34:36pm

re: #434 Brian J.

He’s never been on any side but his own, and I doubt very much there’s much interest in people following his vaporous cause once he’s deposed. Our Violent Revolution has demonstrated that it is nothing without its Dear Leader, as its minions attack anyone seen as a threat, including candidates it endorsed literally yesterday.

This isn’t about Republicans. There are still more Sandbaggers out there, nearing their limits before they snap.

I still fail to see how tarring Sanders as a stochastic terrorist helps anyone other than Republicans.

‘Stochastic terrorist’ is not the kind of accusation to apply to someone just because they piss you off. Real evidence is needed. What has Sanders ever done that is remotely comparable to O’Reilly’s “Tiller the baby-killer” agitprop in term of severity and specificity?

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:35:17pm

The right-wing media get to crucify Bernie after all. I’m sure they’re delighted.

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Brian J.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:36:56pm

re: #438 sauceruney

Couldn’t help but notice sites like Salon and AlterNet glossing over the shooter’s Hillary hatred, like that didn’t have relevance too.

If they didn’t, they’d have to fire 2/3 of their columnists. And who wants Walker Bragman or Seth Abramson walking the streets?

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Decatur Deb  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:37:07pm

re: #442 Shiplord Kirel

The right-wing media get to crucify Bernie after all. I’m sure they’re delighted.

If they do, there won’t be many Dem women weeping at the foot of the cross.

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Interesting Times  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:37:42pm

re: #441 EPR-radar

What has Sanders ever done that is remotely comparable to O’Reilly’s “Tiller the baby-killer” agitprop in term of severity and specificity?

“I could shoot somebody on 5th avenue and not lose any votes.”

“By the way, if she gets to pick, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know.”

“In the old days, he’d be carried out on a stretcher!’

“I’d like to punch him in the face.”

/nothing to see here, it’s Bernie all the way down 9_9

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Brian J.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:37:54pm

re: #441 EPR-radar

I still fail to see how tarring Sanders as a stochastic terrorist helps anyone other than Republicans.

‘Stochastic terrorist’ is not the kind of accusation to apply to someone just because they piss you off. Real evidence is needed. What has Sanders ever done that is remotely comparable to O’Reilly’s “Tiller the baby-killer” agitprop in term of severity and specificity?

If the term “stochastic terrorism” is to mean anything, then it must be applied consistently.

447
Nyet  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:38:26pm

Yes, I don’t like Bernie, but some folks are just unhinged in their Bernie-hatred.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:38:45pm

re: #428 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Surprising no one…

Instead of Marilyn Monroe popping out of Trump’s birthday cake, it was Robert Muller.

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EPR-radar  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:39:26pm

re: #446 Brian J.

If the term “stochastic terrorism” is to mean anything, then it must be applied consistently.

OK. Let’s take “Tiller the baby-killer” as a baseline for clear stochastic terrorism. What has Sanders ever done that is comparable to weeks of that agitprop from O’Reilly?

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Varek Raith  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:39:34pm

re: #448 Myron Falwell

Instead of Marilyn Monroe popping out of Trump’s birthday cake, it was Robert Muller.

That’s not an image we needed.
:P

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Bubblehead II  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:41:52pm

re: #448 Myron Falwell

Instead of Marilyn Monroe popping out of Trump’s birthday cake, it was Robert Muller.

With a subpoena.

452
Decatur Deb  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:42:24pm

re: #451 Bubblehead II

With a subpoena.

Strategically worn.

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Varek Raith  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:43:05pm

re: #451 Bubblehead II

With a subpoena.

Singing “Happy Birthday Mr. President”

/I’ll shut up now.

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gocart mozart  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:44:28pm

re: #437 Nyet

This Japanese Nazi had this as a pinned tweet. Jones v. Duke. You should report her just because Japanese Nazi holocaust denier. I did.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:44:42pm

re: #452 Decatur Deb

Strategically worn.

Well that’s one way to steer the discussion away from Bernie!

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Nyet  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:45:20pm

Comment history is everything.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:45:34pm

re: #456 Nyet

Comment history is everything.

The Internet is forever.

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Nyet  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:46:02pm

re: #454 gocart mozart

She’s “Scottish-British”, she just knows Japanese.

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Nyet  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:46:35pm

re: #457 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Well, that not, but it’s more longterm than many suspect.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:46:45pm

re: #457 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Internet is forever.

Forever

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gocart mozart  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:48:31pm
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Myron Falwell  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:48:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:49:43pm

re: #461 gocart mozart

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Yes. I mean no doubt I feel bad that these guys were shot at but it would be nice if they realized that lax gun laws lead to this shit.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:50:17pm

re: #459 Nyet

Well, that not, but it’s more longterm than many suspect.

I’d ask if now’s the time to be pedantic, but considering that we just feasted on gamey troll buttocks, I imagine the pedantry is going to be strong around here for a little while longer. Trolls always bring out the weird in us.

465
Bubblehead II  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:50:38pm

Well for shits and grins, have had a window open on today’s troll. S/He has so far gone from a +75 to a -94. Gotta love LGF and its intolerance of stupidity.

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Nyet  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:50:50pm

Funny thing is, this guy is sort of a well-known French denier. But he can’t even attempt to furnish a single argument.

467
Shiplord Kirel  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:51:02pm

Middle-aged guy with a pudgy face, scruffy chin beard, and an M-4 carbine he thankfully can’t use well?
Asshole would have fit right in at any number of Tea Party gatherings and anti-Muslim bigot-fests. Talk about becoming the enemy.

468
Nyet  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:51:32pm

re: #465 Bubblehead II

I’ve missed the poor thing. Could you give me a linky plz?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:52:14pm

On another topic, I was really surprised to see how low Republican turnout was yesterday. That’s why Stewart nearly won. I actually thought that one wouldn’t even be close. If I’m Gillespie, I’m really worried especially since last I heard Stewart won’t endorse him, meanwhile Perriello has strongly fallen in behind Northam When I see my friends from the Tom campaign, I’m going to encourage them to sign up like I did. A lot of them are much younger than I am and I’m going to remind them about how two years after Kerry’s tough loss the Dems got Congress back and four years later got Obama.

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scottslemmons  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:52:48pm

re: #434 Brian J.

He’s never been on any side but his own, and I doubt very much there’s much interest in people following his vaporous cause once he’s deposed. Our Violent Revolution has demonstrated that it is nothing without its Dear Leader, as its minions attack anyone seen as a threat, including candidates it endorsed literally yesterday.

This isn’t about Republicans. There are still more Sandbaggers out there, nearing their limits before they snap.

Sanders has never told his followers to go out and shoot anyone. Trump has. Rand Paul has, and he’s still so proud it, he’s still got it up on Twitter. Dozens of TV and radio pundits have. The Republicans are the people who deserve our ire, not Sanders.

471
HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:53:33pm

re: #465 Bubblehead II

Well for shits and grins, have had a window open on today’s troll. S/He has so far gone from a +75 to a -94. Gotta love LGF and its intolerance of stupidity.

189 turnover.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:53:38pm

re: #465 Bubblehead II

Well for shits and grins, have had a window open on today’s troll. S/He has so far gone from a +75 to a -94. Gotta love LGF and its intolerance of stupidity.

That’s the thing: It’s not like we care about whether you’re left or right. We are willing to listen to right-wingers if they are rational and willing to debate. If you’re stupid, though, your political affiliation means nothing.

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gocart mozart  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:53:51pm
474
Bubblehead II  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:54:21pm

re: #468 Nyet

I’ve missed the poor thing. Could you give me a linky plz?

This link I believe was the start. It went down hill from there.

475
Nyet  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:54:22pm

If this continues any longer, I’ll be liking Sanders again just as a reaction.

476
HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:55:25pm

re: #475 Nyet

If this continues any longer, I’ll be liking Sanders again just as a reaction.

Aren’t you the hipster? //

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:56:47pm

re: #178 BigBadDemocrat

We do have community standards here.

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EPR-radar  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:58:05pm

re: #472 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s the thing: It’s not like we care about whether you’re left or right. We are willing to listen to right-wingers if they are rational and willing to debate. If you’re stupid, though, your political affiliation means nothing.

US right wingers that are rational and cognizant of reality would appear to be either a critically endangered species or already extinct.

479
wrenchwench  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:58:29pm

Everything I know about Belleville (it’s a different one).

Triplets of Belleville Dog dream scene

I’ve seen the whole movie (in a theater!) but don’t remember anything from all the clips on Youtube.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:59:34pm

re: #478 EPR-radar

US right wingers that are rational and cognizant of reality would appear to be either a critically endangered species or already extinct.

Or a contradiction in terms.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:59:39pm

re: #472 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s the thing: It’s not like we care about whether you’re left or right. We are willing to listen to right-wingers if they are rational and willing to debate. If you’re stupid, though, your political affiliation means nothing.

Yep. I’ve managed to piss the Lizard Nation off more than once with totally B.S. posts (PWI) and then had to eat that crow pie the next day.

482
Big Beautiful Door  Jun 14, 2017 • 3:59:45pm

Has anyone mentioned here yet that the Washington Post is reporting that Mueller is now investigating Trump for obstruction of justice? I can’t provide a link; its behind a paywall.

483
BigPapa  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:00:48pm

I’m listening to CNN on radio: Trump is under investigation for obstruction re: Comey.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:01:17pm

re: #470 scottslemmons

Sanders has never told his followers to go out and shoot anyone. Trump has. Rand Paul has, and he’s still so proud it, he’s still got it up on Twitter. Dozens of TV and radio pundits have. The Republicans are the people who deserve our ire, not Sanders.

Anyone remember Palin and her “crosshairs” Facebook post that inspired the attempted murder of Rep. Gabby Gifford? She never saw any significant punishment and cast herself as a “victim” because of course she did.

485
Single-handed sailor  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:01:31pm

re: #482 Big Beautiful Door

Has anyone mentioned here yet that the Washington Post is reporting that Mueller is now investigating Trump for obstruction of justice? I can’t provide a link; its behind a paywall.

It’s on Fox News site, too.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:02:48pm

re: #467 Shiplord Kirel

Middle-aged guy with a pudgy face, scruffy chin beard, and an M-4 carbine he thankfully can’t use well?
Asshole would have fit right in at any number of Tea Party gatherings and anti-Muslim bigot-fests. Talk about becoming the enemy.

Are they still reporting that as an M-4, and not a Wannabe-4?

487
Hecuba's daughter  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:02:54pm

re: #415 gocart mozart

Anybody have any thoughts on Murphy in 2020

NowThis ✔ @nowthisnews
Republicans are trying to take health care away from 23 million people in secret - and @ChrisMurphyCT is furious
4:11 PM - 14 Jun 2017

At age of 44, he already has six years in the house and 4 in the Senate.
en.wikipedia.org

Got my daily DailyKos note yesterday that included a plea to contact my (D) Senators on health care — and called both at that time. What was troubling was that I got right in ; no busy signal. They are not hearing enough from their constituents. They all need to be told that they must stop this train wreck by all possible means and not allow Republicans to get away with this at all.

And for those with Republican Senators — give them the same message.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:02:55pm

re: #485 Single-handed sailor

It’s on Fox News site, too.

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How long before the RWNJ’s call Comey a liar? BUTBUTBUT HE SAID THREE TIMES THAT TRUMP WASN’T UNDER FBI INVESTIGATION!!!!!!

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scottslemmons  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:05:51pm

Off-topic: Considering that Michael Moore’s best documentary, “Roger and Me,” was set in Flint, Michigan, does it seem strange that he hasn’t done some sort of followup about the current problems in Flint? Seems like it’d be an interesting way to create a sequel.

On the other hand, I’m not sure I want Moore writing about race issues, because there’s a decent chance he’d screw it up.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:07:02pm

This thread.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:08:04pm

Alex Jones hasn’t called the Belleville shooting a false flag, but some Bern-outs I know have stepped into the gap:

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Stanley Sea  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:08:19pm

re: #482 Big Beautiful Door

Has anyone mentioned here yet that the Washington Post is reporting that Mueller is now investigating Trump for obstruction of justice? I can’t provide a link; its behind a paywall.

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majii  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:09:08pm

re: #444 Decatur Deb

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:09:12pm

re: #401 Targetpractice

A barren, desolate wasteland devoid of all life…there’s a “flyover country” joke in there somewhere.

//

and it’s all red…

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Myron Falwell  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:10:55pm

re: #492 Stanley Sea

Hmmm… maybe having credibility-allergic RWNJs blabbing (from the White House itself) about how Trump wants to fire Robert Muller really wasn’t such a great idea after all.

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Jack Burton  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:11:09pm

re: #491 Shiplord Kirel

Alex Jones hasn’t called the Belleville shooting a false flag, but some Bern-outs I know have stepped into the gap:

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Welcome to Alex Jones Conspiracy-ville ya fucking kooks. You’ll fit right in, just as I always expected you would.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:11:30pm

re: #493 majii

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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:11:33pm

re: #72 Stanley Sea

Here’s video of the shooting.

omg

dennismichaellynch.com

“Well, that’s one helluva way to start the [BLEEP]ing morning.”

Life in the NRA’s America. Coming soon to a playground, school, shopping mall, day care center, nursery, infant ICU or children’s hospital near you.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:11:45pm

re: #484 Myron Falwell

Anyone remember Palin and her “crosshairs” Facebook post that inspired the attempted murder of Rep. Gabby Gifford? She never saw any significant punishment and cast herself as a “victim” because of course she did.

Yep. I even tweeted her about that shit. Can’t seem to find it now, but I’m not that Twitter savvy doing searches.

500
Stanley Sea  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:12:10pm

My subscription to WaPo is certainly paying dividends.

501
Big Beautiful Door  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:14:29pm

re: #496 Jack Burton

Welcome to Alex Jones Conspiracy-ville ya fucking kooks. You’ll fit right in, just as I always expected you would.

I’m sure a lot of them were already 9/11 Truthers who read Infowars.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:15:10pm

re: #501 Big Beautiful Door

I’m sure a lot of them were already 9/11 Truthers who read Infowars.

That point where far left and far right converge… The dreaded… WINGULARITY.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:15:25pm

Elsewhere on Planet Trump:A Resolution Condemning White Supremacy Causes Chaos at the Southern Baptist Convention

Leaders from the Southern Baptist Convention were divided over a resolution affirming the denomination’s opposition to white supremacy and the alt-right during their annual meeting in Phoenix this week. On Tuesday, they initially declined to consider the proposal submitted by a prominent black pastor in Texas, Dwight McKissic, and only changed course after a significant backlash. On Wednesday afternoon, the body passed a revised statement condemning the alt-right. But the drama over the resolution revealed deep tension lines within a denomination that was explicitly founded to support slavery.

Nah, it was that evil tariff on British-printed Bibles…..

504
Amory Blaine  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:15:31pm

Fuck… Got word a tornado dropped a tree on our trailer up at the farm.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:15:55pm

re: #465 Bubblehead II

Well for shits and grins, have had a window open on today’s troll. S/He has so far gone from a +75 to a -94. Gotta love LGF and its intolerance of stupidity.

So much for the tolerant left!

///

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:16:03pm

re: #504 Amory Blaine

Fuck… Got word a tornado dropped a tree on our trailer up at the farm.

{{{Amory Blaine}}}

Hope the damage isn’t too severe, but that … doesn’t sound good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:16:20pm

re: #435 ObserverArt

Strange day. Strange tone tonight at LGF.

and we can’t even blame it on a full moon…

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Bubblehead II  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:16:36pm

Found it. Not quite as dense as I thought I was. :-)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:17:07pm

re: #286 BigBadDemocrat

One of my current two jobs calls, an appointment.

Look inward and reflect.

I just got back from one of mine (and I don’t even get paid for it … I’m doing imperialism wrong - according to Alternet commentators I’m an imperialist neoliberal warmonger).

State water guy: Your paperwork is all messed up.

Me: I just got my license.

SWG: Let’s go look at the wells.

Me: I only have a key for one of them, the other doesn’t work - that’s getting fixed.

(get to well I can open)

SWG: Your paperwork here is messed up too.

Me: I just got my license

(over to library to use computers)

SWG gives me a whole flashdrive of stuff to do, including handouts for everyone in town. Asks about going to Bayard. I suggested today would not be a good day (tornado damage) and suggested he call their city hall before he goes, because they are probably kind of busy now.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:18:21pm

re: #496 Jack Burton

Welcome to Alex Jones Conspiracy-ville ya fucking kooks. You’ll fit right in, just as I always expected you would.

Bring plenty of Reynolds Wrap.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:18:41pm

re: #491 Shiplord Kirel

Alex Jones hasn’t called the Belleville shooting a false flag, but some Bern-outs I know have stepped into the gap:

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Jackasses.

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Jack Burton  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:19:08pm

re: #501 Big Beautiful Door

I’m sure a lot of them were already 9/11 Truthers who read Infowars.

There’s a 100% chance you will can scroll back in either of those two people’s Facebook posts and find rants on at least 2 of the following subjects: GMOs, Monsanto, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Aspartame, Chemtrails, Vaccines, oh and articles that claim cannabis cures everything.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:19:40pm

re: #503 Shiplord Kirel

Elsewhere on Planet Trump:A Resolution Condemning White Supremacy Causes Chaos at the Southern Baptist Convention

Nah, it was that evil tariff on British-printed Bibles…..

HAte to say it but I really don’t have high expectations from a sect that owes its existence to the schism over slavery.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:20:00pm

re: #458 Nyet

She’s “Scottish-British”, she just knows Japanese.

and she most likely is not a “she”.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:20:12pm

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:20:23pm

re: #508 Bubblehead II

Found it. Not quite as dense as I thought I was. :-)

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She’s also someone who called criticism of her after that a “blood libel.” But hey she loves the JEwish people despite believe they’re hellbound. //

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:20:58pm

re: #512 Jack Burton

There’s a 100% chance you will can scroll back in either of those two people’s Facebook posts and find at rants on at least 2 of the following subjects: GMOs, Monsanto, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Aspartame, Chemtrails, Vaccines, oh and articles that claim cannabis cures everything.

Good odds.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:21:58pm

Now they’re investigating you, Donnie!

519
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:23:02pm

re: #381 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I prefer them raw to cooked, normally. I don’t know, maybe some mild chiles could be good?

Ugh, no, sorry. Cooked spinach is an abomination to all things. (I’m fine with it raw.)

There’s a theme here, I like most veggies better raw than cooked.

Fire roasted New Mexico or Poblano chiles >> raw.

Chopped raw Jalapenos in Pico de Gallo >> cooked.

Raw spinach in salad neither better than nor worse than cooked spinach in anything Florentine, or in Param Pak (but then I’d eat my own fingers if they were covered in a good Thai peanut sauce)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:23:18pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:24:05pm

re: #520 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Most people who fall for those kinds of stories are the type of people who will automatically distrust you just for citing Snopes. FYI.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:24:51pm

re: #520 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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If I understand right, that wouldn’t even be in her power to do so. I would think DOE would control our uranium.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:25:31pm

re: #521 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Most people who fall for those kinds of stories are the type of people who will automatically distrust you just for citing Snopes. FYI.

It’s a handy way to identify people you can live the rest of your life without.

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BeachDem  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:25:36pm

re: #484 Myron Falwell

Anyone remember Palin and her “crosshairs” Facebook post that inspired the attempted murder of Rep. Gabby Gifford? She never saw any significant punishment and cast herself as a “victim” because of course she did.

Ah yes, the blood lie-bull. Memories…

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Whack-A-Mole  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:26:00pm

I’m actually very worried about where this shooting is going to lead.

While Bernie himself has denounced it and every major figure on the left will do the same, is there anyone on the right who will try to calm the situation before some asshat takes it into his head to try for some retribution?

So many of the major voices on the right have been calling for violence already, figures who have been given credibility and respectability by POTUS who himself has more than flirted with calls to violence.

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Jack Burton  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:26:09pm

re: #520 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Queue “liberals” now trying to claim Snopes is biased, and “in the tank” for the Clintons.

“Give into your anger. Let the right wing talking points flow through you.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:26:32pm

re: #298 EPR-radar

I go back and forth on the troll-feeding question.

Wonkette lives for trolls. Perhaps we should send them to the lady in the cat suit with a whip.

The owner goes by Commiegirl on Twitter, they have folk like Marxalot and GayerThanThou. That ought to whet the tastes of any troll enough to get eviscerated (with votes, as they say).

On the other hand, Rebecca probably doesn’t need that either. Still, when their commentators get bored they go to places like FR and Town Hall to comment and stir things up, drag them home like a cat drags prey.

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:26:50pm

re: #502 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That point where far left and far right converge… The dreaded… WINGULARITY.

Year and years ago I visited Prison Planet. I read their stories, looked at their photos, and thought, hmmm. Then I went back and read them again and thought hmmm. Then I went back and read them again and thought, ok, this is bullshit. But honestly, I had to think about it for awhile. Thankfully I have pretty good critical thinking skills.

The stuff they put out there on sites like that play connect the dots where some dots are plausible and some stuff is real which makes it a lot easier to go YEAH! until you think about it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:28:06pm

re: #524 BeachDem

Ah yes, the blood lie-bull. Memories…

That shit was so offensive.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:28:45pm

Far left, far right fall for the same crap. It’s why I promise myself never to go oo far left.

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Varek Raith  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:29:24pm

re: #530 HappyWarrior

Far left, far right fall for the same crap. It’s why I promise myself never to go oo far left.

Ain’t called the moronic convergence for nothin!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:29:24pm

re: #528 MsJ

Year and years ago I visited Prison Planet. I read their stories, looked at their photos, and thought, hmmm. Then I went back and read them again and thought hmmm. Then I went back and read them again and thought, ok, this is bullshit. But honestly, I had to think about it for awhile. Thankfully I have pretty good critical thinking skills.

The stuff they put out there on sites like that play connect the dots where some dots are plausible and some stuff is real which makes it a lot easier to go YEAH! until you think about it.

I mentioned this over a year ago, on a Page about my personal story about rejecting the Right, but I had a brief flirtation with the wingnut fringe when I read a JFK conspiracy book. The dots were all connected, and my lack of critical thinking skills prevented me from seeing how flimsy the connections were and that not all of the dots were comprised of solid factual information.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:29:41pm

re: #522 HappyWarrior

If I understand right, that wouldn’t even be in her power to do so. I would think DOE would control our uranium.

It’s not even that. It’s a question of the ownership of a Uranium mining company. It had been owned by a Canadian company, but that was acquired by Rosatom, the Russian nuclear agency. And neither they, nor the company they bought, have licenses to export.

So, at the very worst, Russia might profit by the sale of American Uranium to Americans.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:29:57pm

re: #531 Varek Raith

Ain’t called the moronic convergence for nothin!

Yep. By the way, did you see a transgendered woman is running against your pal Bob Marshall?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:29:59pm

re: #523 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s a handy way to identify people you can live the rest of your life without.

I know a big conspiracy theory guy who was a Bernie Bro. As soon as he spouted Sandy Hook trutherism, I unfollowed him on Facebook.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:30:45pm

re: #399 scottslemmons

It should require actual misconduct to censure or eject someone out of office. “Having a crazy person who likes you” doesn’t rise to the level.

Maybe assaulting or threatening reporters … like clotheslining them and beating them on the floor, or threatening to throw one of the Capitol Rotunda balcony? No, Republicans are good with that.

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Varek Raith  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:31:00pm

re: #534 HappyWarrior

Yep. By the way, did you see a transgendered woman is running against your pal Bob Marshall?

HAHAHA, that’s awesome.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:31:03pm

re: #535 Big Beautiful Door

I know a big conspiracy theory guy who was a Bernie Bro. As soon as he spouted Sandy Hook trutherism, I unfollowed him on Facebook.

I have a few friends from my DU days that are huge Bernie Bros. I am not planning on defriending over that but their political immaturity and honestly ignorance really bothers me.

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BeachDem  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:31:58pm

re: #515 Stanley Sea

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Varek Raith  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:32:05pm

This world needs more Minecraft.
;)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:32:06pm

re: #537 Varek Raith

HAHAHA, that’s awesome.

NOw if we can find a Syrian refugee to run against Dick Black here next year. But yeah she seems like a great candidate. A Paul VI alum actually. I know a couple people who went tehre but I don’t know how old she is.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:32:37pm

re: #538 HappyWarrior

I have a few friends from my DU days that are huge Bernie Bros. I am not planning on defriending over that but their political immaturity and honestly ignorance really bothers me.

I could tolerate a lot of nonsense. But not Sandy Hook trutherism; its beyond the pale.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:33:04pm

Bob Marshall for our non-Virginia friends is Rick Santorum on steroids. He’s the one who nearly became the nominee against Warner when Warner was first elected in 2008.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:33:08pm

re: #530 HappyWarrior

Far left, far right fall for the same crap. It’s why I promise myself never to go oo far left.

The key is maintaining your commitment to objectively verifiable fact and healthy skepticism, especially of things that flatter your preconceptions. As long as you keep true to that, you can be as far left or right as you want.

Mind you, the problem with that is that far left and far right solutions BOTH don’t work.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:33:38pm

re: #539 BeachDem

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:33:40pm

re: #542 Big Beautiful Door

I could tolerate a lot of nonsense. But not Sandy Hook trutherism; its beyond the pale.

Yep, I don’t blame you. I got into it with a work colleague of a friend over that.

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wrenchwench  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:33:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:34:00pm

re: #544 Blind Frog Belly White

The key is maintaining your commitment to objectively verifiable fact and healthy skepticism, especially of things that flatter your preconceptions. As long as you keep true to that, you can be as far left or right as you want.

Mind you, the problem with that is that far left and far right solutions BOTH don’t work.

Yes, yes indeed.

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Renaissance_Man  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:34:20pm

re: #525 Whack-A-Mole

I’m actually very worried about where this shooting is going to lead.

While Bernie himself has denounced it and every major figure on the left will do the same, is there anyone on the right who will try to calm the situation before some asshat takes it into his head to try for some retribution?

So many of the major voices on the right have been calling for violence already, figures who have been given credibility and respectability by POTUS who himself has more than flirted with calls to violence.

That’s where this will continue. We now have the first true instance of a ‘liberal gunman’ that I can recall. There will be retributive attacks - the cultists are already primed and have been for years. The control of all branches of government has not in any way dimmed the persecution complex that they are actively fed and encouraged in by their media. And someone will inevitably take action.

Of course, there are already countless examples of the far right committing mass violence and America carrying on as normal. So perhaps this will not be as dramatic a change as I think. But I think it continues the degeneration of the American republic that political violence will become normalised.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:34:28pm

re: #506 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

{{{Amory Blaine}}}

Hope the damage isn’t too severe, but that … doesn’t sound good.

Well, looks like it could’ve been worse. Caught the corner, no one hurt (wife’s brother lives in it).

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:35:41pm

Bob Marshall was saying pregancny from rape was deserved before it was cool. ///

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:35:59pm

re: #550 Amory Blaine

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:36:52pm

en.wikipedia.org
Wow Varek, I didn’t know he implied Kennedy was gay because of his pro LGBT court record.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:37:39pm

re: #544 Blind Frog Belly White

The key is maintaining your commitment to objectively verifiable fact and healthy skepticism, especially of things that flatter your preconceptions. As long as you keep true to that, you can be as far left or right as you want.

Mind you, the problem with that is that far left and far right solutions BOTH don’t work.

I support policies that are pretty far left, such as single payer universal healthcare, a universal basic income, free college tuition, a big increase in immigration, especially for refugees, and new taxes on the rich to pay for it. But I know that going to war with everyone in the Democratic Party who isn’t ideologically pure isn’t going to win us elections, and we have to work with people in the center to get shit done.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:38:21pm

re: #525 Whack-A-Mole

I’m actually very worried about where this shooting is going to lead.

While Bernie himself has denounced it and every major figure on the left will do the same, is there anyone on the right who will try to calm the situation before some asshat takes it into his head to try for some retribution?

So many of the major voices on the right have been calling for violence already, figures who have been given credibility and respectability by POTUS who himself has more than flirted with calls to violence.

Nope. I expect a lot of platitudes from the right about getting along, but no outright call to NOT engage in retribution. We are talking about the eye for an eye crowd here.

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:38:34pm

re: #532 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I mentioned this over a year ago, on a Page about my personal story about rejecting the Right, but I had a brief flirtation with the wingnut fringe when I read a JFK conspiracy book. The dots were all connected, and my lack of critical thinking skills prevented me from seeing how flimsy the connections were and that not all of the dots were comprised of solid factual information.

It’s easy to suspend critical thinking when you want to believe. It was easier for me because I couldn’t imagine the government doing what they said. That was what killed it for me. I couldn’t even imagine the current shitty government doing it. So I had to read it a few times and do a bit of googling and viola! Bullshit!

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:40:02pm

Newsman just said there’s an active shooter incident at Travis AFB.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:40:04pm

To me, it was always about dealing with the real world around me. I’d like us to move to the left when we can but I also know how much a struggle ACA was with this country’s population. And honestly not all of socialism appeals to me. I don’t think capitalist or socialist should be a dirty word. The fars on both end think one or the other should be.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:40:15pm

re: #557 Single-handed sailor

Newsman just said there’s an active shooter incident at Travis AFB.

Fuck.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:40:21pm

re: #549 Renaissance_Man

That’s where this will continue. We now have the first true instance of a ‘liberal gunman’ that I can recall. There will be retributive attacks - the cultists are already primed and have been for years. The control of all branches of government has not in any way dimmed the persecution complex that they are actively fed and encouraged in by their media. And someone will inevitably take action.

Of course, there are already countless examples of the far right committing mass violence and America carrying on as normal. So perhaps this will not be as dramatic a change as I think. But I think it continues the degeneration of the American republic that political violence will become normalised.

The right has for years fantasized about FEMA/re-education camps, violent takeovers, etc. And I really worry that, like so much else fn the right’s persecution complex, it’s all a matter of projection. I really am worried that this will give them the fig leaf to try to turn their projections into reality.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:40:30pm

re: #540 Varek Raith

This world needs more Minecraft.
;)

Minecraft was a lot cooler before the developer was on Twitter calling women c*nts.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:40:49pm

re: #561 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Minecraft was a lot cooler before the developer was on Twitter calling women c*nts.

Yeah, but it’s about ethics in gaming journalism.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:41:05pm

re: #549 Renaissance_Man

That’s where this will continue. We now have the first true instance of a ‘liberal gunman’ that I can recall. There will be retributive attacks - the cultists are already primed and have been for years. The control of all branches of government has not in any way dimmed the persecution complex that they are actively fed and encouraged in by their media. And someone will inevitably take action.

Of course, there are already countless examples of the far right committing mass violence and America carrying on as normal. So perhaps this will not be as dramatic a change as I think. But I think it continues the degeneration of the American republic that political violence will become normalised.

I might be a tad alarmist, but I am a bit worried that Trump may use today as his Reichstag Fire moment to shut down the Special Counsel and crack down on legitimate protests.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:41:20pm

re: #557 Single-handed sailor

Newsman just said there’s an active shooter incident at Travis AFB.

Looks like our “days since last mass shooting” counter needs to be revised to hours…

What the actual fuck, America.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:41:35pm

re: #563 Big Beautiful Door

I might be a tad alarmist, but I am a bit worried that Trump may use today as his Reichstag Fire moment to shut down the Special Counsel and crack down on legitimate protests.

I’d be lying if I told you that I didn’t worry about that.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:41:53pm

re: #564 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Looks like our “days since last mass shooting” counter needs to be revised to hours…

What the actual fuck, America.

3 in one day but hey don’t blame the guns.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:42:03pm

re: #563 Big Beautiful Door

I might be a tad alarmist, but I am a bit worried that Trump may use today as his Reichstag Fire moment to shut down the Special Counsel and crack down on legitimate protests.

At the very least, it provides a perfect foil to keep his whole shitstorm out of the media.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:42:48pm

re: #554 Big Beautiful Door

I support policies that are pretty far left, such as single payer universal healthcare, a universal basic income, free college tuition, a big increase in immigration, especially for refugees, and new taxes on the rich to pay for it. But I know that going to war with everyone in the Democratic Party who isn’t ideologically pure isn’t going to win us elections, and we have to work with people in the center to get shit done.

It’s disturbing to think that things like universal healthcare, taxes on the rich, free college tuition, and increased immigration, especially for refugees, are ‘pretty far left’, because most of them were pretty goddam mainstream 40-70 years ago.

That’s the crazy thing. The Dems still support the same stuff we have since before WWII, while the GOP has been taken over by their Bircher wing, reinforced by the racist whites who left the Dems when we started sharing that stuff with non-whites. But they say we’ve gotten more extreme.

This is what Norman Ornstein means by ‘asymmetrical polarization’.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:42:48pm

re: #567 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

At the very least, it provides a perfect foil to keep his whole shitstorm out of the media.

Yeah but he’s an egomaniac. He’ll be frustrated that no one is takling about him at some point.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:43:11pm

re: #569 HappyWarrior

Yeah but he’s an egomaniac. He’ll be frustrated that no one is takling about him at some point.

Point taken.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:44:54pm

re: #563 Big Beautiful Door

I might be a tad alarmist, but I am a bit worried that Trump may use today as his Reichstag Fire moment to shut down the Special Counsel and crack down on legitimate protests.

Trump’s not that smart, though.

People like Ryan, McConnell and Pence, who are mad drunk with power, are really who we’d need to worry about.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:47:23pm

re: #388 Brian J.

Sanders was quite explicit what he meant when he called for Revolution- “a million people outside Mitch McConnell’s office,” with the implication that those people will force McConnell’s hand because might makes right. (Sanders lost the KY primary, of course.)

You’re right not to try to defend him on the rest; there’s really no logical defense. The Democrats must be rid of the guy or be tainted by association.

I guess we should expel that Hawai’i woman, Teresa Shook, for organising millions of women in a march protesting Donald Trump. While we’re at it, we’ll expel Jane Kleeb from the Democratic Party calling for people all over the world to be outside the Nebraska Legislature to protest the Keystone XL pipeline.

You do realise freedom of assembly is a constitutional guarantee, even outside a Senator’s office?

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:47:40pm

Pizzagate dude is sorry. Prosecutors are like Meh, still want 4 1/2 year sentence.

washingtonpost.com

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lawhawk  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:48:26pm

re: #564 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

RESET THE CLOCK!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:50:25pm

re: #573 MsJ

Pizzagate dude is sorry. Prosecutors are like Meh, still want 4 1/2 year sentence.

washingtonpost.com

The people who implanted that bullshit in his brain are just as guilty in my opinion.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:51:32pm

re: #575 HappyWarrior

The people who implanted that bullshit in his brain are just as guilty in my opinion.

Worse that will happen to Alex Jones is having to pay a judgment to the Pizza Place.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:52:51pm

re: #550 Amory Blaine

Well, looks like it could’ve been worse. Caught the corner, no one hurt (wife’s brother lives in it).

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Is that a 1974 Titan mobile home? Looks identical to what we own. Repairs should be straight forward unless the actual fame was damaged.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:53:38pm

re: #560 Whack-A-Mole

The right has for years fantasized about FEMA/re-education camps, violent takeovers, etc. And I really worry that, like so much else fn the right’s persecution complex, it’s all a matter of projection. I really am worried that this will give them the fig leaf to try to turn their projections into reality.

I’m not worried … yet. If Rep. Scalise dies, that would be a whole nother ball of wax.

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MsJ  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:54:09pm

re: #578 Anymouse

I’m not worried … yet. If Rep. Scalise dies, that would be a whole nother ball of wax.

Anyone heard on his condition?

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Whack-A-Mole  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:55:53pm

re: #579 MsJ

Still critical, last I heard.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:57:11pm

re: #578 Anymouse

I’m not worried … yet. If Rep. Scalise dies, that would be a whole nother ball of wax.

First Congressman to be assassinated since Leo Ryan, if it does happen. Third one overall. Which would make it a big fucking deal.

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EPR-radar  Jun 14, 2017 • 4:57:34pm

re: #574 lawhawk

RESET THE CLOCK!

A stopwatch is a better tool for timing the intervals between mass shootings in the US than a clock.

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William Lewis  Jun 14, 2017 • 5:05:02pm

re: #566 HappyWarrior

3 in one day but hey don’t blame the guns.

Don’t worry. After today they’ll say they have to take away the guns from the liberal & Muslim terrorists and that’ll solve all the problems.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 14, 2017 • 5:14:19pm

re: #582 EPR-radar

A stopwatch is a better tool for timing the intervals between mass shootings in the US than a clock.

I have two* - one that runs at 5 beats per second and registers up to 30 minutes, and one that runs at 30 bps and registers up to 5 minutes. It’s starting to feel like the latter is about right…..

*Technically, they’re ‘Timers’, not stopwatches, because the train and escapement are running as long as the mainspring is wound. The timer hands are only connected to the running time train when you push the crown, like a chronograph.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 14, 2017 • 5:34:00pm

re: #577 Bubblehead II

Not sure the name, I’ll have to get back to you.

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BeachDem  Jun 14, 2017 • 5:42:43pm

re: #545 Stanley Sea

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