Stand Back! Tommy Emmanuel Burns It Down: “Tall Fiddler”

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That’s all I have to day: stand back and be ready to catch your jaw before it hits the floor.

Live! At The Ryman was recorded live at the historic Ryman Auditorium in Nashville, TN on 27 February 2016, except “Eva Waits” which was recorded on 8 December 2016 at the Big Room in Chico, CA.

This is a genuine “had to be there”…no fix ups…no frills recording. Each of my guitars has pickups and microphones that are included when you buy them, so the sound you hear from this recording is exactly as it sounds in the hall. Grab the new album Live! at the Ryman here wmbg.lnk.to

Credits are:
Camera Operators:
James Southard
Amanda Young
Jaime Lewis
Jeremy Dylan

Editor:
Alex Aitken

All songs produced by Tommy Emmanuel
Executive Producer Brian Penix
Live Audio by Stephen Law
All songs recorded and Mixed by Brad Benge except Eva Waits, recorded and mixed by Marc De Sisto
All songs mastered by Marc De Sisto in Luke’s Room Studio, LA

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 9:17:09pm

Iguana steals a slice of pizza in bid to join LGF:

huffingtonpost.com

There doesn’t appear to be any pineapple on the pie slice, if that means anything.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 9:19:48pm

Nebraska State Patrol Aerial Photographs of Bayard Tornado Damage (five photos) (goes to the Scottsbluff Star-Herald).

Roughly thirty miles from me, in my county.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 14, 2017 • 9:28:20pm
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wheat-dogg  Jun 14, 2017 • 9:42:59pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Whenever Trump denies or deflects something, you can be sure he’s the guilty party. He’s making life easy for the prosecuting attorneys.

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Ubiq  Jun 14, 2017 • 9:48:15pm
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Ubiq  Jun 14, 2017 • 9:50:17pm

re: #4 wheat-dogg

Whenever Trump denies or deflects something, you can be sure he’s the guilty party. He’s making life easy for the prosecuting attorneys.

There are two options.

1) He is dirty as shit.
2) He is such a terrible judge of human character that he can’t help but to hire completely compromised aides and other frauds and put them in incredibly important positions.

People jump to the conclusion that #1 is likely true, but having a corrupt white house is really just as impeachable. Remember, impeachment is a political charge, not a legal one.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 14, 2017 • 9:50:32pm

re: #4 wheat-dogg

Whenever Trump denies or deflects something, you can be sure he’s the guilty party. He’s making life easy for the prosecuting attorneys.

Tweets go in, tweets go out. You can’t explain it.

I’m off to bed. Been a long day. It should be quiet around here, clear, 51 degrees now. G’night. (If the heavy breather calls again, he gets the canned air horn.)

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The Major  Jun 14, 2017 • 9:55:06pm
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wheat-dogg  Jun 14, 2017 • 9:57:23pm

re: #6 Ubiq

There are two options.

1) He is dirty as shit.
2) He is such a terrible judge of human character that he can’t help but to hire completely compromised aides and other frauds and put them in incredibly important positions.

People jump to the conclusion that #1 is likely true, but having a corrupt white house is really just as impeachable. Remember, impeachment is a political charge, not a legal one.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 14, 2017 • 10:19:00pm
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Ubiq  Jun 14, 2017 • 10:38:10pm

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Kragar  Jun 14, 2017 • 10:40:18pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 14, 2017 • 10:54:29pm

re: #11 Ubiq

It’s a shame Don Lafontaine isn’t still with us as I’m sure he could have recorded one kickass anti Trump TV spot.

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Apocalypse  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:29:35pm

Slow night/afternoon, so a quick question: What was the reaction to the attempted assassination of Clinton by Francisco Martin Duran at the time?

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ozharas  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:55:26pm

Our PM Trumball (aka Turnbull) gave the Donald a roast last night at a Canberra ball.

9news.com.au

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 14, 2017 • 11:59:44pm

re: #14 Apocalypse

Slow night/afternoon, so a quick question: What was the reaction to the attempted assassination of Clinton by Francisco Martin Duran at the time?

Probably relatively muted. No one was even hurt in that attack.

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Nyet  Jun 15, 2017 • 12:36:59am
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Amory Blaine  Jun 15, 2017 • 1:43:54am

State Assembly backs U.S. constitutional convention, passes bill limiting agency rules

Wisconsin would join states requesting an unprecedented convention to amend the U.S. Constitution under a measure that passed the state Assembly Wednesday.

The resolution requests the convention “for the limited purpose of requiring the federal government to operate under a balanced budget.” It passed the Assembly on a 54-41 vote, with seven Republicans joining Democrats in opposition.

Meanwhile, Gov. Scott Walker will be next to act on a separate bill that would give lawmakers power to block administrative rules put forth by state agencies. That bill also passed the Assembly Wednesday.

For the resolution seeking a convention to amend the U.S. Constitution, the state Senate would be the next stop. Its fate in that chamber is uncertain.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 15, 2017 • 1:50:15am

re: #17 Nyet

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Quora seems to be a place where lazy, stupid people drop stupid questions they are too lazy to research themselves.

“Is China backward?” was one.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jun 15, 2017 • 2:00:16am

One other thing about today’s attack by the nutjob against Congressional Republicans: people on the left have been unanimous in their condemnation of the perpetrator’s actions.

Now let’s compare how the right reacted to when Gabby Giffords was nearly killed by a rightwing gunman: (note image behind spoilers has been posted on numerous right-wing sites and is easily found in a Google search. Hidden because even though it is SFW, it is still pretty damn disgusting - almost as bad as how many of these ghouls claimed her attempted murder was a hoax)

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 15, 2017 • 2:55:50am
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hah

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wheat-dogg  Jun 15, 2017 • 3:02:36am

re: #21 Single-handed sailor

Should be an interesting call next time one of them phones the other.

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Nyet  Jun 15, 2017 • 3:10:33am

re: #21 Single-handed sailor

Ugh, Turnbull is a poor comedian. Also, “crawling mode” heh.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 15, 2017 • 3:20:11am

re: #22 wheat-dogg

Should be an interesting call next time one of them phones the other.

Shit, knowing Trump, he’s probably ordering that carrier group that’s near Korea to go launch an attack on Canberra.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 15, 2017 • 3:38:49am

Tommy Emmanuel: damn. I’ll admit that I liked the first part of the tune better because my ears and eyes could keep pace, but I love how he got into it. How amazing it must be to have that kind of mastery and control and truly feel it in your entire being.

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freetoken  Jun 15, 2017 • 4:22:15am

Dawn breaks in Iowa, and only one eaglet left:

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Apocalypse  Jun 15, 2017 • 4:26:25am

re: #24 Timothy Watson

Look luck getting that ship on land!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 15, 2017 • 4:34:59am

Mueller is all like “Please proceed…”

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 15, 2017 • 4:40:02am

re: #5 Ubiq

Demanding sensible gun control legislation is not politicizing anything. That’s what Democrats should speak about in the wake of yesterday’s shooting. The shooter should never have had access to guns given his violent background. That’s how all other democratic countries do things.

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Targetpractice  Jun 15, 2017 • 4:41:39am

re: #18 Amory Blaine

State Assembly backs U.S. constitutional convention, passes bill limiting agency rules

I’m never sure whether these people are simply morons if they think that they can stop a constitutional convention at a single amendment or if they’re evil because they’re bullshitting people into believing that’s the only thing they want to add to the constitution.

Fuck it, I’m gonna vote “both.”

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 15, 2017 • 4:43:28am

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

Mueller is all like “Please proceed…”

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He just keeps digging even now that he knows that his tweets are official WH communications and can be used against him in courts. Amazing how dumb Trump has shown himself to be.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 15, 2017 • 4:48:13am

BREAKING NEWS: Fox and Friends’ female host is wearing a pant suit this morning….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 15, 2017 • 4:50:48am

AUTOMATIC. BLOCKING. FUNCTION. TRIGGERED.

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b.d.  Jun 15, 2017 • 4:51:38am

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

AUTOMATIC. BLOCKING. FUNCTION. TRIGGERED.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 15, 2017 • 4:53:53am

#TheResistance hashtag has been an utter shitshow since yesterday morning. My block finger is getting a workout.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 15, 2017 • 4:59:07am

re: #8 The Major

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:08:26am

I’ve seen several “conservative” commentators on the usual shows since yesterday bring up “heated rhetoric” and why it’s time for Democrats to take responsibility and cool things off. Not until they show even an inkling of the scale of the issue and their own culpability can they be taken seriously.

And on guns, Tom Brokaw asked Rep. Rodney Davis (Illin-oy) to consider more broadly yesterday’s events: given the UPS shooting three dead and a shooter dead by suicide in the context of Alexandria, does this give lawmakers more incentive to finally discuss how quickly Americans turn to guns to solve problems and the need for solutions? Davis: I absolutely agree that we get too heated up too quickly; I have many Democrat friends; Americans should be more like me. So, the answer is: no, of course not. Guns are off the table as usual.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:09:07am

re: #21 Single-handed sailor

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Hilarious. Trump deserves all the mocking in the world. He’s ridiculous.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:09:21am

When things go off script:

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:13:22am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:16:46am

re: #19 wheat-dogg

Quora seems to be a place where lazy, stupid people drop stupid questions they are too lazy to research themselves.

“Is China backward?” was one.

Don’t know. Is Australia upside down?

The problem with Quora is that it is becoming troll central. very similar to the visitor we had yesterday. Just asking questions.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:19:05am

Awwwwww!

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scottslemmons  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:19:46am

Twitter still has an Enabling Nazis problem…

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:23:21am
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FormerDirtDart  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:26:04am

Damn auto stream Arby’s ad
Guess I’m out of here till the next page posts up

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darthstar  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:35:49am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:38:11am

The only way this can be considered a “Witch Hunt” is that a bunch of angry WITCHES are hunting his orange ass.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:40:11am

re: #41 I Would Prefer Not To

Don’t know. Is Australia upside down?

The problem with Quora is that it is becoming troll central. very similar to the visitor we had yesterday. Just asking questions.

I got that vibe, too. And now I don’t visit there. I got more important things to do than answer idiotic questions that a nine-year-old can answer by searching on Google.

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covfefe  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:40:44am
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Nyet  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:41:28am

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Targetpractice  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:44:38am

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

The only way this can be considered a “Witch Hunt” is that a bunch of angry WITCHES are hunting his orange ass.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:46:41am

$930 million

Here’s a disturbing stat about the state of medical care access in the United States: A study of GoFundMe crowdsourced fundraising campaigns found that $930 million of $2 billion analyzed was for medical campaigns, or people who had to beg on the internet to pay for medical procedures. [Bloomberg via Ross Baird]

538

Another reason I don’t need trolls in my life. Too many real problems.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:47:30am

re: #50 Nyet

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:49:09am

re: #50 Nyet

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darthstar  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:52:07am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:53:50am

The Republicans have a new narrative: guns aren’t the problem in mass shootings; it’s hostile liberal rhetoric. Handel may be getting a real boost in the election next week against Ossoff because Hodgkinson criticized her. We must tone down our opposition and meekly allow Republicans to ride roughshod over us and this country.

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darthstar  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:56:40am
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sagehen  Jun 15, 2017 • 5:58:48am

re: #30 Targetpractice

I’m never sure whether these people are simply morons if they think that they can stop a constitutional convention at a single amendment or if they’re evil because they’re bullshitting people into believing that’s the only thing they want to add to the constitution.

Fuck it, I’m gonna vote “both.”

Let’s also say how fucking STUPID a balanced budget amendment is.

No borrowing would mean we can’t be the world’s reserve currency anymore. Also… how the fuck would we have ever built the transcontinental railroad, or won WWII, without borrowing? How could anybody you know ever buy a house (or even cars FFS) or send their kids to college if borrowing was seen as fiscally wrong? How would companies get off the ground? How would there be any capital investments in ANYTHING?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:01:15am

re: #58 sagehen

Let’s also say how fucking STUPID a balanced budget amendment is.

No borrowing would mean we can’t be the world’s reserve currency anymore. Also… how the fuck would we have ever built the transcontinental railroad, or won WWII, without borrowing? How could anybody you know ever buy a house (or even cars FFS) or send their kids to college if borrowing was seen as fiscally wrong? How would companies get off the ground? How would there be any capital investments in ANYTHING?

You know, I never thought about it like that. I mean obviously a balanced budget is an understandable goal but you’re 100% right.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:01:35am

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

You are witnessing the single greatest WITCH HUNT in American political history - led by some very bad and conflicted people! #MAGA

— Donald J. Trump

Define “very bad”.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:04:29am

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

AUTOMATIC. BLOCKING. FUNCTION. TRIGGERED.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:05:14am

re: #60 Sir John Barron

Define “very bad”.

PEOPLE WHO SAY VERY BAD,
VERY UNFAIR, VERY VERY MEAN, VERY VERY FALSE THINGS ABOUT ME!!!!! VERY VERY BAD PEOPLE, MEANYHEADS!!!!1!!

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Decatur Deb  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:05:24am

re: #58 sagehen

Let’s also say how fucking STUPID a balanced budget amendment is.

No borrowing would mean we can’t be the world’s reserve currency anymore. Also… how the fuck would we have ever built the transcontinental railroad, or won WWII, without borrowing? How could anybody you know ever buy a house (or even cars FFS) or send their kids to college if borrowing was seen as fiscally wrong? How would companies get off the ground? How would there be any capital investments in ANYTHING?

Do you mean things like the American Revolution?

history.state.gov

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darthstar  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:05:39am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:05:45am

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

They made up a phony collusion with the Russians story, found zero proof, so now they go for obstruction of justice on the phony story. Nice

— Donald J. Trump

So, you’re not denying it, then.

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Lupin  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:06:46am

re: #56 Hecuba’s daughter

The Republicans have a new narrative: guns aren’t the problem in mass shootings; it’s hostile liberal rhetoric. Handel may be getting a real boost in the election next week against Ossoff because Hodgkinson criticized her. We must tone down our opposition and meekly allow Republicans to ride roughshod over us and this country.

The US increasingly looks like its president, or is it the other way around (chicken or the egg)?: aging, affected by dementia, and aggressive.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:06:49am

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

They made up a phony collusion with the Russians story, found zero proof, so now they go for obstruction of justice on the phony story. Nice

— Donald J. Trump

Tell us how you feel about the Senate vote yesterday to punish Russia for interfering in the 2016 election.

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I cannot.  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:06:52am
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His thinking is utterly incomprehensible.

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Targetpractice  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:07:26am

re: #58 sagehen

Let’s also say how fucking STUPID a balanced budget amendment is.

No borrowing would mean we can’t be the world’s reserve currency anymore. Also… how the fuck would we have ever built the transcontinental railroad, or won WWII, without borrowing? How could anybody you know ever buy a house (or even cars FFS) or send their kids to college if borrowing was seen as fiscally wrong? How would companies get off the ground? How would there be any capital investments in ANYTHING?

“The federal budget should be like your household budget!”

“So you bought everything you own with cash only? Not a single credit card?”

“Well…”

“And you bought your house with cash, you’ve never had a mortgage in your life?”

“Hey now…”

“And you paid cash for every car you’ve owned, and got through college with cash only?”

“I’m just saying the federal budget shouldn’t borrow money, only pay out what you take in!”

“Then why don’t you follow your own advice?!”

“Because I’m dirt poor because the money hasn’t trickled down to me yet!”

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:08:23am

re: #11 Ubiq

feature, not a bug, etc

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Timothy Watson  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:08:39am

re: #69 Targetpractice

Was it that idiot Crowder who claimed he never bought anything on credit but claimed he had the bestest credit ever?

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Targetpractice  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:09:05am

re: #68 I cannot.

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His thinking is utterly incomprehensible.

The wingnut logic goes that if there’s no crime to investigate, then you can’t be charged with obstructing justice.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:09:10am

He’s in over his head.

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Targetpractice  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:10:16am

re: #71 Timothy Watson

Was it that idiot Crowder who claimed he never bought anything on credit but claimed he had the bestest credit ever?

I believe it was, boasted about how he’d saved for years to pay cash on a new car. No telling how much money he sunk into the old one just to keep it running.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:11:30am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Hmm, I wonder why dtruMp is so concerned that Russia not be found to have hacked the DNC?

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sagehen  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:11:42am

re: #63 Decatur Deb

Do you mean things like the American Revolution?

history.state.gov

I watched another Hamilton bio this week, on the history channel. The chapter on him pushing for the Federal Govt to assume various States’ revolutionary war debts to bind the states into one nation, then starting the Federal Bank and Stock Exchange so we could become an economic powerhouse…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:11:53am
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Conflicted? I don’t know about you, but I’m not conflicted. I believe with 100% certainty that you are the worst president in the history of the great country.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:12:14am

re: #74 Targetpractice

I believe it was, boasted about how he’d saved for years to pay cash on a new car. No telling how much money he sunk into the old one just to keep it running.

Yeah, and then he said that it was okay to have a mortgage because real property was an investment and that was different.

Or something, hard to remember what wingnuts say because it makes no logical point. :)

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:13:40am

re: #63 Decatur Deb

American-hating Fake newz.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:13:43am

You need only took at how guys these financially manage their own campaigns to know that “fiscal conservatism” at least as espoused by Republicans is bs.

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Targetpractice  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:14:51am

See, the wingnuts have decided that since there’s absolutely no evidence of collusion (that they know of), then there can’t been a crime committed. So if there was no crime committed, then actions taken to stall or kill the investigations doesn’t constitute obstruction of justice.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:15:43am

re: #81 Targetpractice

See, the wingnuts have decided that since there’s absolutely no evidence of collusion (that they know of), then there can’t been a crime committed. So if there was no crime committed, then actions taken to stall or kill the investigations doesn’t constitute obstruction of justice.

Which you know as well as I do, they would not be saying if it were a Democrat involved.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:16:38am

re: #81 Targetpractice

See, the wingnuts have decided that since there’s absolutely no evidence of collusion (that they know of), then there can’t been a crime committed. So if there was no crime committed, then actions taken to stall or kill the investigations doesn’t constitute obstruction of justice.

And conveniently, no evidence of collusion would convince them. Same people also claim Russia didn’t do the hacking or interfering, or if they did, then it was OK.

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weave  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:16:52am

re: #56 Hecuba’s daughter

Handel may be getting a real boost in the election next week against Ossoff because Hodgkinson criticized her.

Christ, now I’m really depressed.

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Targetpractice  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:17:18am

re: #82 HappyWarrior

Which you know as well as I do, they would not be saying if it were a Democrat involved.

Shit, we don’t have to speculate. For 20+ years, the conventional wisdom was “If anybody close to the Clintons is under investigation, then the Clintons are personally being investigated.”

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:17:51am

re: #72 Targetpractice

The wingnut logic goes that if there’s no crime to investigate, then you can’t be charged with obstructing justice.

But if you were innocent why would you obstr….?

Oh never mind.

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sagehen  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:20:20am

re: #82 HappyWarrior

Which you know as well as I do, they would not be saying if it were a Democrat involved.

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darthstar  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:21:10am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:22:24am

re: #88 darthstar

Both these tweeters should tone down their hateful rhetoric against our king and ruling party lest someone get angry.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:23:54am

You know, I knew this was going to happen- The hyper sensitivity to criticism of their next President after years of questioning every last thing Obama did.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:26:23am

re: #90 HappyWarrior

You know, I knew this was going to happen- The hyper sensitivity to criticism of their next President after years of questioning every last thing Obama did.

Libtards complaining about us innocently referring to Michelle Obama as a baboon and calmly suggesting a violent overthrow of a two-term, popular vote and EC elected President Obama are special liberal snowflakes who can’t handle good old fashioned free speech and substantive policy criticism but any criticism of dtrUmp is tyranny and treason and cannot be abided.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:26:50am

re: #58 sagehen

Let’s also say how fucking STUPID a balanced budget amendment is.

No borrowing would mean we can’t be the world’s reserve currency anymore. Also… how the fuck would we have ever built the transcontinental railroad, or won WWII, without borrowing? How could anybody you know ever buy a house (or even cars FFS) or send their kids to college if borrowing was seen as fiscally wrong? How would companies get off the ground? How would there be any capital investments in ANYTHING?

Balanced budget shouldn’t be a problem. We can handle it the Trump way: declare bankruptcy, keep our assets, and shed our liabilities!!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:27:25am

re: #91 Sir John Barron

Libtards complaining about us innocently referring to Michelle Obama as a baboon and calmly suggesting a violent overthrow of a two-term, popular vote and EC elected President Obama are special liberal snowflakes who can’t handle good old fashioned free speech and substantive policy criticism but any criticism of dtrUmp is tyranny and treason and cannot be abided.

Exactly and the same thing happened after years of bashing Bill too with W but at least W could take criticism himself unlike the thin skinned baby who thinks all of his opponents are bad, bad, bad.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:27:54am

re: #92 Hecuba’s daughter

Not even that. Just declare that the economy is booming, tax receipts are up, gov spending is down, the budget is magically balanced.

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Skip Intro  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:28:07am

re: #90 HappyWarrior

You know, I knew this was going to happen- The hyper sensitivity to criticism of their next President after years of questioning every last thing Obama did.

Wait for trump to start a war. Then the right will say it’s treason to question his judgement, ethics, criminal activities.

That’s trump’s next card to play.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:28:09am

Single greatest witch hunt? Joe McCarthy would like a word.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:28:42am

re: #96 Mike Lamb

Single greatest witch hunt? Joe McCarthy would like a word.

The actual witch hunt too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:28:53am

re: #95 Skip Intro

Wait for trump to start a war. Then the right will say it’s treason to question his judgement, ethics, criminal activities.

That’s trump’s next card to play.

Oh yeah for sure.

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Skip Intro  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:28:59am

re: #96 Mike Lamb

Trump has the vocabulary and understanding of a slow six year old.

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lawhawk  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:30:25am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. The widely expected Tweet storm from Trump came, with entirely predictable results.

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Salem witch hunt. The Red Scare of the 1950s. I could go on.

Oh wait, your history doesn’t reach that far back? How about Benghazi or Obama’s birth certificate? Trump actually figures prominently in the latter, claiming that he had evidence Obama wasn’t a US citizen, and spewed nonsensical ravings all over the Twitterverse endlessly to that end.

There’s so much projection going on here, that Trump’s destined to put IMAX out of business. It’s what Trump does, but Trump’s tweets aren’t meant to be consumed by the media or people with knowledge and understanding of facts. It’s meant for his ahistorical followers who don’t know and don’t care about anything other than what Trump says.

Prosecutors and investigators have a different mindset, and they use those tweets to go to Trump’s actions and state of mind, and the courts have likewise determined Trump tweets are equivalent to press releases from the WH, which helped strike down Trump’s Muslim ban in the 9th Circuit.

And yet, there’s people who still think that Trump will eventually figure out how the presidency works, and stop with the nonsense. They aren’t learning just as surely as Trump wont - Trump has spent decades doing these very things - lying, bullying, projecting on to others what he does himself and Trump is never ever going to change. The media needs to drop all pretenses that Trump will somehow learn and grow into the role.

He’s pathologically incapable of doing that. Five seconds of “presidential acts” like issuing a statement following the shooting yesterday is overwhelming by this morning’s tweets, which is all part of the pattern that Trump does.

Trump will continue being his own worst enemy by signaling all the criminality and actions he’s engaged in and inadvertently admitting the same.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:32:15am

GOP: Dems need to tone it down!

People: Any examples?

GOP: Russia. Resistance.

People: Rand Paul literally said the 2nd amendment was intended for shooting a tyrannical government.

GOP: Don’t you understand metaphors?

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:33:01am

re: #50 Nyet

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Weaselone  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:33:17am

re: #59 HappyWarrior

You know, I never thought about it like that. I mean obviously a balanced budget is an understandable goal but you’re 100% right.

It’s actually a moronic goal. The US needs to maintain a minimum level of debt just to maintain a base for it’s own currency. On top of that some level is required as a backing or a medium of exchange for global finance and trade (you need an asset which has such a massive base and is so liquid that even multibillion dollar transactions have little impact on price). And then you have foreign reserves of US treasuries, and the demand for the debt as safe, secure investment. Given a growing US and global economy, the minimum level of debt the US should have increases every year (that’s not to say current levels aren’t excessive).

Bringing the concept to epic levels of stupidity is the fact that a federal balanced budget requirement is virtually guaranteed to turn the next significant economic downturn into a death spiral.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:33:48am

re: #56 Hecuba’s daughter

The Republicans have a new narrative: guns aren’t the problem in mass shootings; it’s hostile liberal rhetoric. Handel may be getting a real boost in the election next week against Ossoff because Hodgkinson criticized her. We must tone down our opposition and meekly allow Republicans to ride roughshod over us and this country.

Evidence?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:33:51am

re: #101 Mike Lamb

GOP: Dems need to tone it down!

People: Any examples?

GOP: Russia. Resistance.

People: Rand Paul literally said the 2nd amendment was intended for shooting a tyrannical government.

GOP: Don’t you understand metaphors?

Exactly. And you know what, I hope Rand will shut up with the stupid metaphors like that in the future especially considering him and his demented father have over 30 years of expereince in the same federal government between the two of thm.

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b.d.  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:33:58am

I just need to go ahead and bookmark this tweet;

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:35:16am

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

Mueller is all like “Please proceed…”

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
They made up a phony collusion with the Russians story, found zero proof, so now they go for obstruction of justice on the phony story. Nice
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And Dumb Donny says it is “phony” and that is what he wants us all to believe.

Hey Mr. Greatest Businessman with The Great Mind…if it was phony would not that have come out in the end? Who blocks an investigation that they know is phony and has nothing to it?

Only the Guilty…that’s who.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:35:32am

re: #106 b.d.

I just need to go ahead and bookmark this tweet;

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Heh I saw that too. I know someone who has him as their representative. He’s really good.

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Skip Intro  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:36:27am

re: #105 HappyWarrior

I think Rand was only referring to shooting Democrats. In fact I’m sure of it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:38:58am

re: #109 Skip Intro

I think Rand was only referring to shooting Democrats. In fact I’m sure of it.

Of course he was.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:41:20am

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:43:22am

re: #94 Sir John Barron

Not even that. Just declare that the economy is booming, tax receipts are up, gov spending is down, the budget is magically balanced.

Keep two sets of books!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:45:50am

Got my first email from the Northam campaign. Unity.

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jeffreyw  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:46:08am

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:46:36am

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Good morning!

Mmmmm Cubanos.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:47:09am

re: #104 Belafon

Evidence?

Handel gave a very measured response to the Hodgkinson attack on her positions. I wouldn’t be surprised if the R’s run an anti-Ossoff ad tied to this.

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:48:38am

re: #96 Mike Lamb

Single greatest witch hunt? Joe McCarthy would like a word.

It has to be the single greatest witch hunt because Donny is by far the Greatest President with the Greatest Brain Ever. Period.

Keep watching. When this is all done you all will see Joe McCarthy is a lightweight when it comes to corruption. /

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:49:21am

re: #103 Weaselone

It’s actually a moronic goal. The US needs to maintain a minimum level of debt just to maintain a base for it’s own currency. On top of that some level is required as a backing or a medium of exchange for global finance and trade (you need an asset which has such a massive base and is so liquid that even multibillion dollar transactions have little impact on price). And then you have foreign reserves of US treasuries, and the demand for the debt as safe, secure investment. Given a growing US and global economy, the minimum level of debt the US should have increases every year (that’s not to say current levels aren’t excessive).

Bringing the concept to epic levels of stupidity is the fact that a federal balanced budget requirement is virtually guaranteed to turn the next significant economic downturn into a death spiral.

Thanks, good points.

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freetoken  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:49:33am

It’s morning and they’re rushing out the gate:

1,000+ Ducklings Morning Rush

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lawhawk  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:51:17am

The London skyscraper fire death toll is at 17, though that too is expected to rise. I see this as particularly significant:

Construction firm Rydon, which carried out the refurbishment, initially said in a statement that the work met “all fire regulations” - the wording was omitted in a later statement.

Fire risk assessment in tower blocks was “less rigorous” since responsibility for it shifted from the fire brigade to the owner, Sian Berry, housing committee chairwoman of the London Assembly, said.

That they’re backing off that initial statement suggests that they may not have done all that they should, that the materials used might not have been up to spec, or that the installation was not sufficient. In any event, I’m still wondering how and why sprinklers were not required in the building of this size.

Sprinklers would have given people time to escape and survive. A sprinkler going off in the middle of the night would have been enough to wake most people who had gone to sleep at that hour…

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:53:03am

re: #101 Mike Lamb

GOP: Dems need to tone it down!

People: Any examples?

GOP: Russia. Resistance.

People: Rand Paul literally said the 2nd amendment was intended for shooting a tyrannical government.

GOP: Don’t you understand metaphors?

I saw this Randian statement yesterday. So, I would ask Rand if the guy shooting yesterday was just taking on a tyrannical government? Part 2 of the question. Are you okay with guns now since you got first hand experience of someone truly exercising their 2nd amendment rights?

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:55:22am

re: #116 Hecuba’s daughter

Handel gave a very measured response to the Hodgkinson attack on her positions. I wouldn’t be surprised if the R’s run an anti-Ossoff ad tied to this.

Everyone was predicting this would overshadow the Russia scandal, but the news this morning was about the investigation now including obstruction of justice.

Did you see the news about voting in VA? It was up 170% over 2009, which they’re comparing to because it was the last time VA had a contested primary.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:56:12am

re: #121 ObserverArt

I saw this Randian statement yesterday. So, I would ask Rand if the guy shooting yesterday was just taking on a tyrannical government? Part 2 of the question. Are you okay with guns now since you got first hand experience of someone truly exercising their 2nd amendment rights?

I’d love to see his response to that. Seriously if you think guns are for tyrants then you shouldn’t be shocked about what happened yesterday. But as said already, Rand definitely only means Democrats.

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lawhawk  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:56:22am
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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:57:14am

re: #121 ObserverArt

I saw this Randian statement yesterday. So, I would ask Rand if the guy shooting yesterday was just taking on a tyrannical government? Part 2 of the question. Are you okay with guns now since you got first hand experience of someone truly exercising their 2nd amendment rights?

I do think it’s fair to ask people who get all “Democrats are violent” what they thought “2nd Amendment solutions” meant.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:57:55am

re: #122 Belafon

Everyone was predicting this would overshadow the Russia scandal, but the news this morning was about the investigation now including obstruction of justice.

Did you see the news about voting in VA? It was up 170% over 2009, which they’re comparing to because it was the last time VA had a contested primary.

I was at my home precinct all day on Tuesday. I live in a swing county but my home precinct is quite Republican. We had more Dems voting than Republicans. And the Republican primary was contested too. Guys, I really think we may actually beat them at the turnout game in an off year election this time.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:58:20am

re: #125 Belafon

I do think it’s fair to ask people who get all “Democrats are violent” what they thought “2nd Amendment solutions” meant.

or what Donald meant when he said the 2nd amendment people should do something about Hillary.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:59:14am

re: #96 Mike Lamb

Single greatest witch hunt? Joe McCarthy would like a word.

So would the people who were executed in Salem.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 6:59:33am

re: #124 lawhawk

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sagehen  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:00:04am

Good thing for Scalise that one of his baseball teammates was Brad Wenstrup (OH) — a podiatrist isn’t usually the first doctor you’d hope for in such a situation, but Wenstrup is also an army reservist who did 2 years as a combat medic in Iraq.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:01:24am

re: #130 sagehen

Good thing for Scalise that one of his baseball teammates was Brad Wenstrup (OH) — a podiatrist isn’t usually the first doctor you’d hope for in such a situation, but Wenstrup is also an army reservist who did 2 years as a combat medic in Iraq.

I always thought medics were some of the most unsung heroes in warfare.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:05:46am

On the subject of medics, I always did like that episode of Band of Brothers set in Bastogne. I think it always inspired my imagination since the Bulge was so cold and two of my great uncles were there.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:11:24am

Listening to the press conference on Otto Warmbier—the student who just returned from North Korea in a coma—on thing is clear. The Obama administration’s strategies for dealing with captured Americans have earned a lot of criticism, probably valid. I wonder what could have been done differently. Warmbier’s father is saying that things only changed once he went on Tucker Carlson’s show and Trump got involved.

Btw, It was a stupid prank, but Otto didn’t deserve what he got. I’m happy to give Trump credit if he helped end this suffering.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:13:01am

re: #133 Barefoot Grin

Listening to the press conference on Otto Warmbier—the student who just returned from North Korea in a coma—on thing is clear. The Obama administration’s strategies for dealing with captured Americans have earned a lot of criticism, probably valid. I wonder what could have been done differently. Warmbier’s father is saying that things only changed once he went on Tucker Carlson’s show and Trump got involved.

Or maybe NK just didn’t want to have to take care of an American in a coma.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:13:36am
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:14:55am

re: #134 Belafon

Or maybe NK just didn’t want to have to take care of an American in a coma.

Yeah, I know. Living in NH, I’ve probably heard a bit more about the Foley’s dissatisfaction with the way the Obama administration dealt with his capture.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:15:28am

re: #136 Ace-o-aces

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mmmirele  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:15:51am

re: #134 Belafon

Or maybe NK just didn’t want to have to take care of an American in a coma.

Otto Warmbier’s been in a coma for a year.

And I think Fred Warmbier is kind of an asshat for criticizing the diplomatic efforts of the previous administration without taking into account the fact that we’re talking about NORTH KOREA here.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:17:48am

re: #139 mmmirele

Otto Warmbier’s been in a coma for a year.

And I think Fred Warmbier is kind of an asshat for criticizing the diplomatic efforts of the previous administration without taking into account the fact that we’re talking about NORTH KOREA here.

Well it’s understandably an emotional issue for him since it’s his son but yes.

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sagehen  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:23:23am
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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:23:51am

re: #138 HappyWarrior

How many right wing Christian NRA Member Senators tweeted that the 2nd amendment was for the government and how many Democrats have said that? Fuck off Jackoff.

Someone needs to ask why Sarah Palin isn’t defending Hodgkinson.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:24:38am

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Confederate Furries. Didn’t know those two communities had intersection.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:24:42am

Huffpo headline
TRUMP ERUPTS “IT’S A WITCH HUNT”

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:25:06am

I haven’t heard about this:

BEIJING — A city government said seven people were killed and 59 injured Thursday in an explosion at the front gate of a kindergarten in eastern China as relatives were picking up their children at the end of the school day.

The Xuzhou city government in Jiangsu province said the blast at the Chuangxin Kindergarten in Fengxian, which struck at 4:50 p.m. Thursday, was under investigation.

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Nyet  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:25:29am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

There are Nazi furries.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:26:07am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

Confederate Furries. Didn’t know those two communities had intersection.

Deeply confused furry or the mascot of a revanchist highschool that didn’t get the message.

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jeffreyw  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:26:14am

re: #115 HappyWarrior

Mmmmm Cubanos.

Close! Missed it by that much. [holds fingers up to demonstrate]

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:28:03am

re: #146 Nyet

There are Nazi furries.

Great, now I won’t be able to sleep for weeks.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:28:17am

re: #69 Targetpractice

“The federal budget should be like your household budget!”

“So you bought everything you own with cash only? Not a single credit card?”

“Well…”

“And you bought your house with cash, you’ve never had a mortgage in your life?”

“Hey now…”

“And you paid cash for every car you’ve owned, and got through college with cash only?”

“I’m just saying the federal budget shouldn’t borrow money, only pay out what you take in!”

“Then why don’t you follow your own advice?!”

“Because I’m dirt poor because the money hasn’t trickled down to me yet!”

Now just imagine how we would go to war if a balanced budget amendment passed…

“Hey we were just attacked, we got to declare war!”

“Wait a minute, we got to pay for it. Got to raise taxes!”

“Nope, we’ll just terminate Social Security and Medicare…”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:28:29am

re: #148 jeffreyw

Close! Missed it by that much. [holds fingers up to demonstrate]

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Aha!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:29:19am

re: #147 Decatur Deb

Deeply confused furry or the mascot of a revanchist highschool that didn’t get the message.

Can’t it be both?

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:31:00am

re: #136 Ace-o-aces

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Decatur Deb  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:33:34am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Can’t it be both?

Possibly. Daughter1 donated the $1100 mascot costume to Grand-daughter3’s school so she could be the mascot. G-d3 is severely autistic, natural bully-bait. Anyone who wants to bully her has to go through the football team first.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:36:12am

re: #150 Joe Bacon

Now just imagine how we would go to war if a balanced budget amendment passed…

“Hey we were just attacked, we got to declare war!”

“Wait a minute, we got to pay for it. Got to raise taxes!”

“Nope, we’ll just terminate Social Security and Medicare…”

Hey, don’t you remember, we already ended Social Security and Medicare to give the top 1% another tax cut!

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:38:14am

BWAHAHAHAHA: Dennis Rodman is passing out copies of The Art of the Deal in North Korea.

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LastYearsMan  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:38:16am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Nothing more pathetic than a man who was in the Federal government for four presidents trying to convince conspiracy kooks that he’s one of them. I’d love to see what Newt said when Bush appointted Mueller FB director.

But that’s the core of Orwell, isn’t it? No facts. No yesterday. No objectivity. Only tribes. My side and the enemy. Everything else, everything real, is completely malleable.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:38:19am
The mayor of the tiny Chesapeake Bay island community of Tangier says President Donald Trump called him after seeing a news report about the threat the Virginia village faces from sea-level rise.

[…]

Most of low-lying Tangier, with a population of about 450, is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. Because of the isolation, many residents have retained the linguistic traces of the island’s primarily English settlers who first arrived in the 17th century.

The island is also sinking from erosion and rising sea levels, and scientists predict that residents may have to abandon it within 25 to 50 years.

But Eskridge said Trump reassured him.

“He said not to worry about sea-level rise,” Eskridge said. “He said, ‘Your island has been there for hundreds of years, and I believe your island will be there for hundreds more.’”

About 87 percent of Tangier residents who cast ballots in November voted for Trump, and Eskridge said during the CNN interview that he loved Trump like a family member.

“He said, ‘I’ve just got to talk to that guy,’” Eskridge said.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:39:51am

re: #158 Timothy Watson

richmond.com

Can’t help it if they voted for suicide.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:40:24am

re: #158 Timothy Watson

richmond.com

Wonder if he’lll still see him like a family member when Trump’s shitty environmental policies poison the bay.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:40:40am

re: #159 Joe Bacon

Can’t help it if they voted for suicide.

They’re a cult.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:40:46am

re: #158 Timothy Watson

richmond.com

“But God, why didn’t you save us from drowning?”
“I sent you scientists.”

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:41:37am

If you’re in Quebec or thinking about moving there, you can expect an opening in the position of being a social media whiz. An iota of awareness of sarcasm would be a requirement.

To get the reference, substitute your least favourite 2008 bailout recipient for Bombardier:

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I cannot.  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:46:28am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

Believe it or not, yes, there is an alt-right furry scene, including straight up nazi furs. There’s been a LOT of pushback from other furries, it also has a pretty strong far-left scene as well.

I never thought that I would ever KNOW anything about the furry community until this year.

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:46:35am

re: #134 Belafon

Or maybe NK just didn’t want to have to take care of an American in a coma.

That is what I am thinking. Trump gave them an out. I notice Trump and Gang have not said anything about the young man’s condition and asking why that happened, etc. Maybe I missed it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:47:10am

re: #164 I cannot.

Believe it or not, yes, there is an alt-right furry scene, including straight up nazi furs. There’s been a LOT of pushback from other furries, it also has a pretty strong far-left scene as well.

I never thought that I would ever KNOW anything about the furry community until this year.

Heh this is all so weird.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:48:02am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:48:19am

re: #164 I cannot.

Believe it or not, yes, there is an alt-right furry scene, including straight up nazi furs. There’s been a LOT of pushback from other furries, it also has a pretty strong far-left scene as well.

I never thought that I would ever KNOW anything about the furry community until this year.

We need Wind-up Bird and his friend for a consultation.

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:51:03am

America wants a balanced budget!!!

Says everyone with two maxed credit cards and asking relatives for a few bucks to get them through the week until payday…again. Oh, and will your mom and dad cosign for the new car you don’t have enough good credit to buy on your own.

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:52:52am

re: #154 Decatur Deb

Possibly. Daughter1 donated the $1100 mascot costume to Grand-daughter3’s school so she could be the mascot. G-d3 is severely autistic, natural bully-bait. Anyone who wants to bully her has to go through the football team first.

Teaching them early political lessons are we?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:55:28am

re: #168 Decatur Deb

We need Wind-up Bird and his friend for a consultation.

Wonder what happened to WUB.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:56:35am

re: #164 I cannot.

Believe it or not, yes, there is an alt-right furry scene, including straight up nazi furs. There’s been a LOT of pushback from other furries, it also has a pretty strong far-left scene as well.

I never thought that I would ever KNOW anything about the furry community until this year.

This is more than I was expecting to encounter today.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:56:51am

re: #167 Stanley Sea

That’s worth seeing.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:58:26am

re: #158 Timothy Watson

richmond.com

Local man happy he got to talk to the pus*y grabber in chief. Loves him like a brother.

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Targetpractice  Jun 15, 2017 • 7:58:35am

re: #167 Stanley Sea

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Michael Keaton shows up like “Did somebody call me?”

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:02:12am

re: #135 Stanley Sea

Typical libtard scum just wait till King druUmTf throws all you liberal treasonous scum in prison you America-hating media loser. Gosh why are liberals so angry and course?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:03:37am

re: #135 Stanley Sea

What do you mean, you cukc?

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sagehen  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:04:07am

re: #175 Targetpractice

Michael Keaton shows up like “Did somebody call me?”

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lawhawk  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:04:13am

re: #169 ObserverArt

And the mortgage on the house along with the HELOC plus student loans for the kids.

Oh, and the loan against the 401k, because your employer health insurance isn’t covering all your costs. /

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:04:23am

re: #176 Sir John Barron

Typical libtard scum just wait till King druUmTf throws all you liberal treasonous scum in prison you America-hating media loser. Gosh why are liberals so angry and course?

Liberals are so sensitive and delicate.

Starbucks introduces a plastic cup with Happy Holidays on it.

WAR ON CHRISTMAS.

Seriously modern conservatism is one giant projecting cult.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:04:58am

re: #178 sagehen

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It would be cool if Conroy, Keaton, and Bale all went. In costume of course.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:06:12am

re: #181 HappyWarrior

It would be cool if Conroy, Keaton, and Bale all went. In costume of course.

Clooney, Afleck, too

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Targetpractice  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:06:14am

re: #178 sagehen

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George Clooney and Val Kilmer stand off to the side like “Well, this is awkward.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:06:45am

en.wikipedia.org
Hey fellow gamers. This game is like my dream come true.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:06:48am

re: #181 HappyWarrior

It would be cool if Conroy, Keaton, and Bale all went. In costume of course.

Who’s Conroy? The kid in Gotham?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:06:57am

re: #182 Sir John Barron

Clooney, Afleck, too

Yes.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:07:16am

re: #185 Sir John Barron

Who’s Conroy? The kid in Gotham?

The guy who voiced Batman in the Animated Series.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:07:20am

re: #182 Sir John Barron

Clooney, Afleck, too

Yeah, they can skip it.

(No offense to Clooney, but Jesus, that film sucked.)

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Targetpractice  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:08:15am

And for the finale, they can burn an effigy of Joel Schumacher.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:11:12am

re: #177 Sir John Barron

What do you mean, you cukc?

On my phone and the font made that look like “cuke”

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:11:34am

re: #162 Belafon

“But God, why didn’t you save us from drowning?”
“I sent you scientists.”

“But God, why did you give me the option to vote for Trump, you sent him too???
“I gave you a brain.”

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Targetpractice  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:16:32am

So another day, another bit of info gets out that Trump is pressuring people to say there’s no evidence of collusion. For somebody who supposedly is innocent, he seems pretty bound and determined to give as much public appearance of guilt as possible.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:19:12am

Michael Savage says “Civil War”. Big trash talk from a fearful tiny minded man. Otoh I’m glad Trump has made as many enemies in DC as he has. Makes it very difficult for him to try to stay in office by any means. I don’t put it past him to try.

Edit Home today with stomach flu. 36 hours so far no solid food.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:20:09am

re: #193 Unshaken Defiance

Michael Savage says “Civil War”. Big trash talk from a fearful tiny minded man. Otoh I’m glad Trump has made as many enemies in DC as he has. Makes it very difficult for him to try to stay in office by any means. I don’t put it past him to try.

Savage has been on my personal shit list ever since he made the remarks he did about autistic kids.

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Targetpractice  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:22:04am

re: #193 Unshaken Defiance

Michael Savage says “Civil War”. Big trash talk from a fearful tiny minded man. Otoh I’m glad Trump has made as many enemies in DC as he has. Makes it very difficult for him to try to stay in office by any means. I don’t put it past him to try.

Here’s the thing: For the better part of the past 30 years, the wingnuts have been pushing the “Civil War” BS and arguing that an armed populace is necessary to stop a “tyrannical gov’t.” Now somebody actually puts it into practice and they’re outraged because it’s their politicians who were targeted. I by no means approve in any way what happened yesterday, but I am going to point out that wingnuts need to realize there’s two sides to any “civil war.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:22:38am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

Savage has been on my personal shit list ever since he made the remarks he did about autistic kids.

For me it’s all the right wing mythology as if it were real. Alt universe.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:23:10am

re: #195 Targetpractice

Here’s the thing: For the better part of the past 30 years, the wingnuts have been pushing the “Civil War” BS and arguing that an armed populace is necessary to stop a “tyrannical gov’t.” Now somebody actually puts it into practice and they’re outraged because it’s their politicians who were targeted. I by no means approve in any way what happened yesterday, but I am going to point out that wingnuts need to realize there’s two sides to any “civil war.”

Exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:23:18am

re: #196 Unshaken Defiance

For me it’s all the right wing mythology as if it were real. Alt universe.

Yep.

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:24:13am

re: #195 Targetpractice

Here’s the thing: For the better part of the past 30 years, the wingnuts have been pushing the “Civil War” BS and arguing that an armed populace is necessary to stop a “tyrannical gov’t.” Now somebody actually puts it into practice and they’re outraged because it’s their politicians who were targeted. I by no means approve in any way what happened yesterday, but I am going to point out that wingnuts need to realize there’s two sides to any “civil war.”

Hey…you’re channeling my posts from earlier.

Carry on!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:29:12am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

I was at my home precinct all day on Tuesday. I live in a swing county but my home precinct is quite Republican. We had more Dems voting than Republicans. And the Republican primary was contested too. Guys, I really think we may actually beat them at the turnout game in an off year election this time.

Perhaps, the shooting yesterday won’t increase the Republican turnout, but the R’s will likely be tying Ossoff to the Hodgkinson and telling their base that they can’t let the “bad” guys win.

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sagehen  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:31:23am

re: #181 HappyWarrior

It would be cool if Conroy, Keaton, and Bale all went. In costume of course.

And Affleck. And Clooney.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:32:28am

re: #181 HappyWarrior

It would be cool if Conroy, Keaton, and Bale all went. In costume of course.

Will Conroy’s costume be drawn?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:32:38am

re: #200 Hecuba’s daughter

Perhaps, the shooting yesterday won’t increase the Republican turnout, but the R’s will likely be tying Ossoff to the Hodgkinson and telling their base that they can’t let the “bad” guys win.

True that.

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Lupin  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:32:42am

re: #66 Lupin

The US increasingly looks like its president, or is it the other way around (chicken or the egg)?: aging, affected by dementia, and aggressive.

I forgot self—defecating.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:32:52am

re: #202 Belafon

Will Conroy’s costume be drawn?

I hadn’t thought that far ahead.

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makeitstop  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:35:27am

re: #100 lawhawk

How about Benghazi or Obama’s birth certificate?

Or the Great Penis Hunt, for that matter.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:36:23am

re: #124 lawhawk

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Hmmm, Ashley Madison’s Spokesman said what?

Newt’s hurt because he can’t find a new mistress on Adult Friend Finder!
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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:36:31am

re: #133 Barefoot Grin

Listening to the press conference on Otto Warmbier—the student who just returned from North Korea in a coma—on thing is clear. The Obama administration’s strategies for dealing with captured Americans have earned a lot of criticism, probably valid. I wonder what could have been done differently. Warmbier’s father is saying that things only changed once he went on Tucker Carlson’s show and Trump got involved.

Btw, It was a stupid prank, but Otto didn’t deserve what he got. I’m happy to give Trump credit if he helped end this suffering.

I completely disagree. Yes, it was a stupid prank - in a hostile foreign country. The government should not get someone out of a situation like this if it put them, our government, in a position of having to give whatever to that hostile nation.

Trump is able to work with NK because he wants to be NK.

Say Obama got this guy out, hey, no biggie! How many other stupid kids are going to be wanting to play Jackass or Punk’d in a hostile foreign country.

I am sorry for his suffering, but I am equally sorry for his stupidity and putting our country in a position that we had to negotiate with freaking NK. Don’t you wonder what we had to give NK? I sure do.

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William Lewis  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:38:27am

re: #208 MsJ

It’s a nasty thing to admit but the first thing I thought when I heard he was in a coma was “Darwin Award”.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:39:03am

re: #208 MsJ

I completely disagree. Yes, it was a stupid prank - in a hostile foreign country. The government should not get someone out of a situation like this if it put them, our government, in a position of having to give whatever to that hostile nation.

Trump is able to work with NK because he wants to be NK.

Say Obama got this guy out, hey, no biggie! How many other stupid kids are going to be wanting to play Jackass or Punk’d in a hostile foreign country.

I am sorry for his suffering, but I am equally sorry for his stupidity and putting our country in a position that we had to negotiate with freaking NK. Don’t you wonder what we had to give NK? I sure do.

I do remember reading about this case and having the same reaction. Don’t know what the hell he was thinking.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:39:57am

re: #208 MsJ

Otto was stupid but he did not deserve to be tortured into a coma.

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Bass Reeves  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:40:42am

re: #208 MsJ

Yeah, that’s the part of this that I can’t understand criticizing *any* administration. US citizens are subject to the laws of other countries when they break them. Holy balls, don’t effing go to North Korea or Iran. Just don’t do it. And if you ignore that piece of advice, don’t break the fr*ckin law while you’re there. It is not the responsibility of the US government to protect you from criminal charges when you *actually break the law*.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:40:55am

re: #164 I cannot.

Reminds me of this Conservative GOP State Senate Staffer in PA who was caught doing something very naughty with a young boy…

wonkette.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:40:56am

re: #208 MsJ

It is strange that no one seemed to be aware that he has been in a coma for such an extended period. But then NK is so secretive that information seldom leaks out.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:41:04am

re: #195 Targetpractice

Here’s the thing: For the better part of the past 30 years, the wingnuts have been pushing the “Civil War” BS and arguing that an armed populace is necessary to stop a “tyrannical gov’t.” Now somebody actually puts it into practice and they’re outraged because it’s their politicians who were targeted. I by no means approve in any way what happened yesterday, but I am going to point out that wingnuts need to realize there’s two sides to any “civil war.”

And that words have meaning. Hyperbole leads to actions.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:43:18am

Nat Geo had that show Locked Up Abroad and so many of the people on that show were Americans who were totally ignorant of how harsh other countries mostly in South America and Asia deal with drug smuggling. I mean I get it, we all fuck up but be fucking smart too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:43:43am

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

Otto was stupid but he did not deserve to be tortured into a coma.

No one does.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:43:49am

re: #214 Hecuba’s daughter

It is strange that no one seemed to be aware that he has been in a coma for such an extended period. But then NK is so secretive that information seldom leaks out.

Trump wants the US to be like that. That is why he is always complaining about leaks, makes his employees and ex-wives sign NDAs and flies into insane rage whenever anything unflattering is said about him.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:44:41am

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

Otto was stupid but he did not deserve to be tortured into a coma.

Of course not! No one deserves that. Ever.

But we are talking about NK. Why on earth would anyone anywhere do any kind of prank in a hostile foreign country? If the expectation is that their government will always get them out of whatever stupidity they get themselves into, what does out government have to give the NK government in exchange? This puts our country in a very bad position.

And I still want to know what kind of quid pro quo happened to get him out.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:45:12am

re: #193 Unshaken Defiance

Michael Savage says “Civil War”. Big trash talk from a fearful tiny minded man. Otoh I’m glad Trump has made as many enemies in DC as he has. Makes it very difficult for him to try to stay in office by any means. I don’t put it past him to try.

Edit Home today with stomach flu. 36 hours so far no solid food.

Savage has been begging for a civil war in America for years.

Sorry about your flu. Feel better soon.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:46:33am

re: #219 MsJ

Of course not! No one deserves that. Ever.

But we are talking about NK. Why on earth would anyone anywhere do any kind of prank in a hostile foreign country? If the expectation is that their government will always get them out of whatever stupidity they get themselves into, what does out government have to give the NK government in exchange? This puts our country in a very bad position.

And I still want to know what kind of quid pro quo happened to get him out.

The RWNJ universe about burned the whole country down when Obama got the American prisoner released from Afghanistan. And wingnut world attacked his parents, etc. They can go suck on a big of

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:46:43am

re: #212 Bass Reeves

Yeah, that’s the part of this that I can’t understand criticizing *any* administration. US citizens are subject to the laws of other countries when they break them. Holy balls, don’t effing go to North Korea or Iran. Just don’t do it. And if you ignore that piece of advice, don’t break the fr*ckin law while you’re there. It is not the responsibility of the US government to protect you from criminal charges when you *actually break the law*.

I have more sympathy for the kid in the Phillipines who was caned. Spitting on a sidewalk (or spitting out gum…I don’t recall what) was stupid for the punishment given. Yet that is their law.

This kid was playing with fire and he got burned. He got burned badly and horrifically. But when you talk about the security of a nation compared to a kid, I side with our country.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:46:44am

re: #216 HappyWarrior

Nat Geo had that show Locked Up Abroad and so many of the people on that show were Americans who were totally ignorant of how harsh other countries mostly in South America and Asia deal with drug smuggling. I mean I get it, we all fuck up but be fucking smart too.

Excuse me — but we live in a country where Trump won the R nomination and then 63 million voted for him for president. It is clear that at least half of Americans are idiots beyond words.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:47:41am

re: #222 MsJ

I have more sympathy for the kid in the Phillipines who was caned. Spitting on a sidewalk (or spitting out gum…I don’t recall what) was stupid for the punishment given. Yet that is their law.

This kid was playing with fire and he got burned. He got burned badly and horrifically. But when you talk about the security of a nation compared to a kid, I side with our country.

My recollection is that was Singapore and the kid spraypainted some cars. Or maybe this is something else.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:47:59am

re: #223 Hecuba’s daughter

Excuse me — but we live in a country where Trump won the R nomination and then 63 million voted for him for president. It is clear that at least half of Americans are idiots beyond words.

Don’t remind me.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:48:16am

re: #221 Sir John Barron

The RWNJ universe about burned the whole country down when Obama got the American prisoner released from Afghanistan.

An American who was also a broken soldier. No Man Left Behind is only ok when you support the president? Uhm, no.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:48:24am

re: #221 Sir John Barron

The RWNJ universe about burned the whole country down when Obama got the American prisoner released from Afghanistan.

A man who they had advocated that we get back and then they trashed his father too.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:51:32am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

Savage has been on my “#2 list” ever since I saw him on MSNBC. And then there was this Salon article showing what a phony asshole he is!

salon.com

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:51:43am

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

Otto was stupid but he did not deserve to be tortured into a coma.

I don’t think anyone is saying he deserved it.

I wonder if the government needs to let people know there are certain countries that are our enemy. You can go there if you want, but at your own risk.

Make it clear you will not be rescued by the government as the government will not negotiate your release with an enemy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:52:04am
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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:52:33am

re: #224 HappyWarrior

My recollection is that was Singapore and the kid spraypainted some cars. Or maybe this is something else.

You are right. That actually changes my original statement because that was a crime and one I would expect him to, minimally, do full restitution for here at home.

Now I am having an internal discussion with myself. Caning…heavy duty spanking and when/is corporal punishment acceptable. Hmmm…

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KGxvi  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:52:56am

re: #229 ObserverArt

I don’t think anyone is saying he deserved it.

I wonder if the government needs to let people know there are certain countries that are our enemy. You can go there if you want, but at your own risk.

Make it clear you will not be rescued by the government as the government will not negotiate your release with an enemy.

That’s a really bad policy and runs counter to a few hundred years of practice among nations.

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KGxvi  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:54:27am

re: #230 Blind Frog Belly White

If Bill Clinton were to read that tweet, immediately fly to wherever Gingrich is, and punch him in the nuts, I think it would be totally justified.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:54:32am

The problem with the US government attempting to negotiate the release of Americans caught is that it makes Americans abroad more likely to be targets. All of those hijackings and kidnappings in the 80s occurred because Reagan was very susceptible to the images on TV and would have the government negotiate the release. These came to a near stop when Bush Sr. declared there would no longer be any negotiations.

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Bass Reeves  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:54:35am

re: #229 ObserverArt

Like this?

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Decatur Deb  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:54:39am

re: #230 Blind Frog Belly White

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The Whitewater financial corruption investigation turned into a hunt for a blow job, but Gingrich couldn’t be aware of that.

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makeitstop  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:54:55am

re: #168 Decatur Deb

We need Wind-up Bird and his friend for a consultation.

I ran across someone with the nic ‘Wind Up Bird’ on Twitter, I was wondering if it was our departed Lizard.

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sagehen  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:55:00am

re: #223 Hecuba’s daughter

Excuse me — but we live in a country where Trump won the R nomination and then 63 million voted for him for president. It is clear that at least half of Americans are idiots beyond words.

“Think of how stupid the average person is. Now realize, half of everyone is even stupider than that.”
—George Carlin

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:56:21am

re: #236 Decatur Deb

The Whitewater financial corruption investigation turned into a hunt for a blow job, but Gingrich couldn’t be aware of that.

…because ol’ Newt was getting some lip service from his mistress soon to be wife #3 at the same time…the same #3 who Trump sends to the Vatican as our Ambassador…

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:57:32am

re: #239 Joe Bacon

…because ol’ Newt was getting some lip service from his mistress soon to be wife #3 at the same time…the same #3 who Trump sends to the Vatican as our Ambassador…

Has the Vatican accepted Calista as an ambassador?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:58:12am

re: #240 MsJ

Has the Vatican accepted Calista as an ambassador?

Something tells me Pope Francis ain’t too pleased with that selection…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 15, 2017 • 8:58:57am

re: #233 KGxvi

If Bill Clinton were to read that tweet, immediately fly to wherever Gingrich is, and punch him in the nuts, I think it would be totally justified.

I’d pay to watch that, despite what I said about violence and politics yesterday.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:01:15am

From the Tell Us How You Feel file.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:01:48am

re: #241 Joe Bacon

Something tells me Pope Francis ain’t too pleased with that selection…

I am not Catholic and I am deeply embarrassed by this selection. I can’t fathom how the Pope feels.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:01:53am

re: #230 Blind Frog Belly White

Mueller is setting up a dragnet of obstruction, financial questions and every aspect of Trump’s life and his associates lives.very dangerous

— Newt Gingrich

Gee.

Remember when Trump and his “associates” basically bragged all Summer and Fall that DJT wouldn’t release his taxes, didn’t have to, so nah nah nah?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:03:03am

re: #236 Decatur Deb

The Whitewater financial corruption investigation turned into a hunt for a blow job, but Gingrich couldn’t be aware of that.

Oh, he’s aware of it. That’s why he knows how dangerous it is for Trump to have opened this bag of snakes by INSISTING on personal exoneration.

What a fucking dumbass. And he’s so fucking dumb, impulsive, and short-sighted that he very possibly was never personally guilty of anything till he tried to stop the investigation.

The man’s too stupid to be President, except clearly there are enough Americans stupid enough to elect him.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:03:04am

Jurors deadlocked in the Cosby trial.

Mother. Fucker.

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:03:18am

re: #227 HappyWarrior

A man who they had advocated that we get back and then they trashed his father too.

But all that is going to change now isn’t it?

After yesterday Congress realizes it is time to hold hands and sing peace songs and there is a big need for everyone to work and be together.

Right?

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freetoken  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:05:17am

re: #247 MsJ

Never underestimate the power of celebrity.

See: Trump; OJ. Simpson; etc.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:05:37am

re: #247 MsJ

Jurors deadlocked in the Cosby trial.

Mother. Fucker.

I’m not surprised at all since this trial is taking place in Pennsylvania. Which is why I got out of there 35 years ago and never went back!

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:05:53am

Spot on article. He is doing the same with the press. This is an absolutely dangerous game they are playing with our country at stake. Read this. It’s good.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:06:21am

re: #245 Sir John Barron

Gee.

Remember when Trump and his “associates” basically bragged all Summer and Fall that DJT wouldn’t release his taxes, didn’t have to, so nah nah nah?

I remember when Trump bragged that he could shoot somebody and not lose supporters. In fact I’ve seen the clip a couple times in recent days. Personally, if a politician I supported said that to me, I’d consider it a HUGE insult to my integrity, and I’d stop supporting him.

I mean, seriously - the man told his supporters they wouldn’t care about him committing murder just for kicks.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:07:11am

re: #246 Blind Frog Belly White

The man’s too stupid to be President, except clearly there are enough Americans stupid enough to elect him.

This country was stupid enough to elect Nixon, Pruneface Reagan and Dumbya twice so it IS dumb enough to elect Tweetler twice.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:07:30am

re: #247 MsJ

Jurors deadlocked in the Cosby trial.

Mother. Fucker.

“Why didn’t all those women come forward at the time?”

This is why. This, and Trump. And OJ. And lots of other examples.

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freetoken  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:08:41am

We humans are notoriously easy to bias in our thinking.

The key to celebrity is that familiarity strongly biases our thinking. That is why we can so easily demonize the “other”, because they are unfamiliar to us.

The invention of double-blind testing was needed because simply being aware about an item can influence how we perceive something else.

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:10:17am

re: #232 KGxvi

That’s a really bad policy and runs counter to a few hundred years of practice among nations.

Among nations that have agreements with one another I can understand.

Do you trust North Korea?

Would you go there and expect the government to get you out if you do something against their laws?

I’m not trying to be a hard ass much as realistic.

And let’s flip it. Why didn’t North Korea release him if they are “working” with us by practicing those hundred years of policies of working with other nations?

I admit I don’t know all the laws, but I know one thing…I wouldn’t go to North Korea because I would never trust them to uphold any past understandings.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:11:38am

re: #251 MsJ

Notably, even elected Republicans otherwise inclined to pawn their integrity for a Diet Coke and an Amazon gift card have not stooped to smearing the unimpeachable Mueller. At least not yet.

My only life goal now is to memorize this phrase.

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:12:51am

re: #235 Bass Reeves

Like this?

Yes, but what will happen if anyone ignores those warnings? I looked around to see if there are any ramifications. Going to look into that some more.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:16:21am

John King just read a statement from some congressman (I didn’t catch who) who blamed President Obama for starting the vitriol.

Find out who.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:16:26am

re: #251 MsJ

Why is the GOP, once again, willing to to debase itself to prevent the whole truth from coming out? If Trump and his advisers are genuinely innocent of collaboration with the Russians, or of other Russia-related financial and political malfeasance, why wouldn’t they simply shut up and get out of the way?

That’s kind of it, isn’t it?

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:16:58am

I appreciate the debate over Otto Wambier and North Korea. It has given me a lot to think about. I had a lot less sympathy for Laura Ling for trying to enter NK, but I see the points of those who are not unsympathetic but also realistic about what we can do for citizens who get themselves caught by authoritarian regimes.

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sagehen  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:17:25am

re: #255 freetoken

We humans are notoriously easy to bias in our thinking.

The key to celebrity is that familiarity strongly biases our thinking. That is why we can so easily demonize the “other”, because they are unfamiliar to us.

The invention of double-blind testing was needed because simply being aware about an item can influence how we perceive something else.

It used to be almost impossible for women to be hired at the best orchestras. Directors were certain their decisions were based entirely on merit, it wasn’t their fault so few women were any good.

Then they adopted blind auditions (musicians sit behind a screen, and are judged by people who can hear but not see them).

Among musicians who auditioned in both blind and non-blind auditions, about 28.6 percent of female musicians, and 20.2 percent of male musicians, advanced from the preliminary to the final round in blind auditions. When preliminary auditions were not blind, only 19.3 percent of the women advanced, along with 22.5 percent of the men.

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sagehen  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:19:16am

re: #259 Stanley Sea

John King just read a statement from some congressman (I didn’t catch who) who blamed President Obama for starting the vitriol.

Find out who.

In fairness, Obama did *insist* on being black. Not only during his campaign, but through his presidency. He persisted in remaining black, no matter how often they asked him not to be.

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Jenner7  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:21:08am

re: #259 Stanley Sea

Steve King.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:21:32am

The jury is still deliberating. It’s not done yet. Likely a holdout or two one way or the other. Grrrrrrrrrrr.

On a positive note…read this. Some really fascinating facts here!!

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:21:59am

re: #251 MsJ

Spot on article. He is doing the same with the press. This is an absolutely dangerous game they are playing with our country at stake. Read this. It’s good.

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I don’t think this will be a successful strategy. Oh, it will work with his base for sure. But this is out of his base’s hands now.

And from what I understand, it will be extremely difficult to make Mueller look bad to the people in DC where Mueller is seen as a rock solid good guy American.

This is where a non-establishment politician is going to run head-on into a well established person with well established supporters from both political parties.

But Trump will try it and he will use political gadabouts like Newt and Rudi to do it. Maybe he has no feel for the fact that both are not all that well loved in DC. I think many Republicans would like both to go away.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:22:24am

re: #259 Stanley Sea

John King just read a statement from some congressman (I didn’t catch who) who blamed President Obama for starting the vitriol.

Find out who.

Remember when he invited that cop and that professor over to the WH for a beer to talk over their differences?

So glad we’ll be spared that kind of vitriol for the next four years.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:23:13am

re: #263 sagehen

In fairness, Obama did *insist* on being black. Not only during his campaign, but through his presidency. He persisted in remaining black, no matter how often they asked him not to be.

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It all started when he appointed Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers to his cabinet. And when he wouldn’t cough up his birth certificate like every other presidential candidate has.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:23:47am

re: #264 Jenner7

Steve King.

Here is my shocked face.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:24:44am

re: #264 Jenner7

Steve King.

Gosh, how did I know it was Steve THING who uttered that banal horse shit?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:24:52am

re: #259 Stanley Sea

John King just read a statement from some congressman (I didn’t catch who) who blamed President Obama for starting the vitriol.

Find out who.

I thought it was Hillary Clinton’s fault. She called the alt-right, Deplorables. Shame.

//

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:25:43am

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William Lewis  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:26:19am

re: #193 Unshaken Defiance

Michael Savage says “Civil War”. Big trash talk from a fearful tiny minded man. Otoh I’m glad Trump has made as many enemies in DC as he has. Makes it very difficult for him to try to stay in office by any means. I don’t put it past him to try.

Edit Home today with stomach flu. 36 hours so far no solid food.

Fuck those assholes and their fantasies. I put it this way last night:

littlegreenfootballs.com

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:28:46am

re: #265 MsJ

I only knew TWO of the 23 facts. I am embarrassed. (hanging head)

The link to that site. social.diply.com

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Timothy Watson  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:29:59am

re: #272 Eclectic Cyborg

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:36:13am

From The Guardian on that fire:

What about the new gas pipes in the central stairwell? Did they exacerbate the blaze?

A local councillor, Judith Blakeman, who sits on the tenant management organisation, raised concerns in March about the National Grid installation of gas risers or pipes in the main stairwell as part of the refurbishment. She was reassured by the landlord that they would be boxed in with “fire-rated” protection, but this does not appear to have been done. The London fire brigade said on Thursday morning they had not been able to put out the flames until they had isolated a ruptured gas main in the block.

How did the alarm system operate?

Several residents said they did not hear a building-wide alarm. One man said the first thing he heard was the sirens of emergency vehicles. How was the building’s alarm system set up?

More than one resident has claimed there was no central fire alarm system for the tower block - or that it had failed - and only smoke alarms in individual flats were working. Were they battery operated or hard-wired into the system? Board minutes suggest installing hard-wired fire alarms had been planned.

And manslaughter charges?

Rachel Adamson, head of regulatory law at the law firm Stephensons, said corporate manslaughter charges were difficult to prove as they related to “the controlling mind of the business”. If an individual was considered to have been negligent, this may lead to a charge of manslaughter by gross negligence. A range of lesser potential charges include breach of fire regulations or health and safety regulations. Investigators will examine recent refurbishment work, whether building regulations have been complied with and what fire safety precautions were in place.

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Jenner7  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:36:15am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:36:45am

re: #277 Jenner7

OFFS.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:39:26am

re: #277 Jenner7

Sorry, Steve. It’s not his being black that’s the problem, but your reaction to it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:39:52am

re: #277 Jenner7

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What else would you expect that racist to say?

And now his fellow bigot, Barletta says Congressmen should reduce their Town Halls!

talkingpointsmemo.com

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KingKenrod  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:43:50am
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BigPapa  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:46:06am

After listening to AM radio the last 18 hours: total ignorance of the hate rhetoric from the right, the building narrative of growing violence on the left. They’ve not learned or had a moment of introspection, they’re full on exploiting this event. Utterly shameful.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:46:09am

re: #277 Jenner7

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Fuck off Steve and go back ot your Klavern.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:49:41am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Upding for Klavern.

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garzooma  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:52:37am

Here’s a voice of reason:

Rep. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) said President Trump is “partially” to blame for the hostility in the nation that led to the shooting of House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) and others at a congressional baseball practice.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:57:12am

re: #285 garzooma

RINO

/

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:58:47am

Look at the size of these artichokes. Those are artichokes, right? Is that normal?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 9:59:56am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

upding for the first three words

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:04:17am

re: #282 BigPapa

After listening to AM radio the last 18 hours: total ignorance of the hate rhetoric from the right, the building narrative of growing violence on the left. They’ve not learned or had a moment of introspection, they’re full on exploiting this event. Utterly shameful.

“Where were you when Sarah Palin was calling for 2nd Amendment solutions? Where were you when Trump was appealing to the ‘2nd Amendment types’? Where were you when Richard Collins was killed?”

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:06:32am

re: #289 Belafon

Had to look up ‘Richard Collins’. Already down the memory hole. But yep.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:08:55am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:09:15am

re: #285 garzooma

Here’s a voice of reason:

Wow. Never thought I’d see that. He’s right though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:09:25am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:09:43am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

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In short, Trump should be treated like a child.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:10:01am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

But, clearly, we should keep him as president. //

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Bass Reeves  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:10:19am

re: #258 ObserverArt

Seriously, read the North Korea page.

This system imposes unduly harsh sentences for actions that would not be considered crimes in the United States and threatens U.S. citizen detainees with being treated in accordance with “wartime law of the DPRK.” Since the United States does not maintain diplomatic or consular relations with North Korea, the U.S. government has no means to provide normal consular services to U.S. citizens in North Korea.

North Korean authorities have detained those who traveled independently and those who were part of organized tours. Being a member of a group tour or using a tour guide will not prevent North Korean authorities from detaining or arresting you.

Numerous foreigners have been held in North Korea for extended periods of time without being formally charged with any crimes. Detained foreigners have been questioned daily for several weeks without the presence of counsel and have been compelled to make public statements and take part in public trials.

It’s bloody 2017, and this ish ain’t new.

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I cannot.  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:10:31am

re: #287 MsJ

Random cuteness response…

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:10:54am

Is anyone reminding GOP politicians the “left” does not have all the hate radio talkers, all the hater GOP web sites like Brietbart, Infowars, etc., and no one-party-only TV networks like Fox News.

Oh sure, someone is going to try to say MSNBC and NPR and people like John Stewart, Steven Colbert and Samantha Bee. But that would be very dishonest as most of them are just mocking or questioning rightwing media and politicians, they aren’t bending the facts to support a party.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:13:11am

re: #297 I cannot.

Random cuteness response…

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How is it when dipped in butter? :-)

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:14:21am
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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:14:36am

re: #296 Bass Reeves

Seriously, read the North Korea page.

It’s bloody 2017, and this ish ain’t new.

Thanks for finding that. It is exactly what I was thinking of.

I wonder what KGxvi thinks about that?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:15:53am

Does anyone have a really good map of the election results with both the popular vote and EC? I’m trying to do a memo for my boss on why we think the EC is outdated.

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Franklin  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:16:08am

re: #265 MsJ

The jury is still deliberating. It’s not done yet. Likely a holdout or two one way or the other. Grrrrrrrrrrr.

On a positive note…read this. Some really fascinating facts here!!

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#12 will shock you!

Actually, it’s one of the coolest things on that list.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:16:38am

re: #298 ObserverArt

Is anyone reminding GOP politicians the “left” does not have all the hate radio talkers, all the hater GOP web sites like Brietbart, Infowars, etc., and no one-party-only TV networks like Fox News.

Oh sure, someone is going to try to say MSNBC and NPR and people like John Stewart, Steven Colbert and Samantha Bee. But that would be very dishonest as most of them are just mocking or questioning rightwing media and politician, they aren’t bending the facts to support a party.

Exactly.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:18:17am

re: #300 MsJ

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I love this quote from Ms. Pelosi:

“Obviously, Newt is being the political Newt that he always is.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:18:56am

re: #305 I Would Prefer Not To

I love this quote from Ms. Pelosi:

“Obviously, Newt is being the political Newt that he always is.”

Oh snap.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:19:19am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

Does anyone have a really good map of the election results with both the popular vote and EC? I’m trying to do a memo for my boss on why we think the EC is outdated.

Two Words: Donald Trump : )

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:20:03am

re: #307 I Would Prefer Not To

Two Words: Donald Trump : )

Hahahhaaha we know but this is a serious memo.

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Cheechako  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:20:18am

re: #305 I Would Prefer Not To

I love this quote from Ms. Pelosi:

“Obviously, Newt is being the political Newt that he always is.”

Darn, I always thought Newt was a political whore.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:20:29am

Really though, you’d think it would be easy to find a single map with both the EC and popular vote listed.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:21:52am

re: #300 MsJ

Pelosi is being very shrill and hateful and should stop trying to politicize things and also it’s Obama’s and Hillary’s and Bernie’s fault that people are mad.

/

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:22:13am

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Timothy Watson  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:22:48am

Oh, fuck me.

I joked yesterday that Bryce Reeves, the insane GOP candidate for Lieutenant Governor who lost his primary race, would claim that he really won because he won most of the counties in Virginia. He had actually posted this picture prior to my comment:

Facebook Post

And the comments are insane as you would expect, multiple examples:

North VA ought to be a separate state, the tail is wagging f the dog here much like other states with a population imbalance wherein the dense part of the population drives the rest of the state, sad!

[…]

We need to put in place an electoral college type of system to counter the libtards and illegals voting in NOVA! They do not represent the rest of the state.

[…]

I have heard that all that housing approved and built in NoVa was done with the idea of turning Va “big-government” blue years ago. Could have happened in Md but they didn’t need it politically cause they’re already blue. See? So this was a Trojan horse that polluted and ruined our state!

But those divisive Democrats y’all.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:23:05am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

Really though, you’d think it would be easy to find a single map with both the EC and popular vote listed.

maybe 538 would have something?

There should be, and I’m sure there are, some general political sciency websites out there that would have this but I can’t think of any names off the top of my head.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:23:28am

re: #314 Sir John Barron

maybe 538 would have something?

There should be, and I’m sure there are, some general political sciency websites out there that would have this but I can’t think of any names off the top of my head.

Yeah I should go there next.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:23:45am

re: #303 Franklin

#12 will shock you!

Actually, it’s one of the coolest things on that list.

That was one of the two I actually knew.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:24:23am

re: #313 Timothy Watson

Oh, fuck me.

I joked yesterday that Bryce Reeves, the insane GOP candidate for Lieutenant Governor who lost his primary race, would claim that he really won because he won most of the counties in Virginia. He had actually posted this picture prior to my comment:

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And the comments are insane as you would expect, multiple examples:

But those divisive Democrats y’all.

I’m sure Stewart is thinking the same thing even though he’s from NOVA. Hey though, my grandma told me that Corey hadn’t backed Eddie yet. Hope that’s true.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:24:40am

re: #313 Timothy Watson

I joked yesterday that Bryce Reeves, the insane GOP candidate for Lieutenant Governor who lost his primary race

Who were the other insane candidates who did win the race for GOP governor and Lt. governor?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:25:09am

Okay 538 does haev a map but you can’t save it. Fuck.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:25:29am

re: #318 Sir John Barron

Who were the other insane candidates who did win the race for GOP governor and Lt. governor?

Establishment Ed and Jill Vogel (NOVA wingnut).

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:25:56am

re: #318 Sir John Barron

Who were the other insane candidates who did win the race for GOP governor and Lt. governor?

Gillespie really isn’t insane but he’s a pandering principleless hack. I should know more about Jill Vogel since she’s from nearby here. I think John Adams was their AG pick but not sure.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:26:03am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

Okay 538 does haev a map but you can’t save it. Fuck.

Post the link, I can do a screenshot, save to Paint, and post as an image.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:26:17am

re: #313 Timothy Watson

All those libtards should go back to making money to support us and leave the politicking alone.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:27:06am

re: #322 Timothy Watson

Post the link, I can do a screenshot, save to Paint, and post as an image.

NM this was just Nate’s prediction.

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Interesting Times  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:27:12am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

Okay 538 does haev a map but you can’t save it. Fuck.

Would these help?

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:27:32am

re: #300 MsJ

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Is anyone else getting the wrong video loading at Rawstory? I get a Larry King video.

I hate Rawstory…it is so full of junk…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:28:10am

re: #325 Interesting Times

Would these help?

No, I need maps with numbers. I need to show that while Trump won the EC, he lost the popular vote. I’m presenting four electoral maps to show the evolution. One from 1789, one from 1824, one from 1912, and the latest one.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:28:12am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

you mean the nationwide popular vote or the popular vote percentages by state too?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:28:28am

re: #328 Sir John Barron

you mean the nationwide popular vote or the popular vote percentages by state too?

Nationwide.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:29:03am

I’m trying to show the absurdity how Trump could win despite losing the popular vote that was the margin of over the population of quite few states.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:29:41am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

cnn.com

this site has separate tabs for the EC and popular vote

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:29:55am

re: #281 KingKenrod

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HEY! I broke this BREAKING NEWS this morning!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:30:55am

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - Andrea Grimes (Medium)

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Timothy Watson  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:31:01am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

Vogel is a Republican, but I’ll give a few points for this; she sponsored a bill that pretty much banned child marriage here in Virginia:
Why 13-year-olds can no longer marry in Virginia

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:31:30am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

Okay 538 does haev a map but you can’t save it. Fuck.

Do a print screen which copies the window to the copy board, then open up paint and create a new file which should open as the aspect ratio of your monitor. Hit ‘paste” and the screen captured should paste in. Then save it as a jpeg or gif.

Hope that helps.

Edit: I see Tim suggested it already…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:31:42am

re: #331 Sir John Barron

cnn.com

this site has separate tabs for the EC and popular vote

Thanks that works. I was looking for something more like this.
Image: 577px-ElectoralCollege1824.svg.png

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:32:18am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

Gillespie really isn’t insane but he’s a pandering principleless hack. I should know more about Jill Vogel since she’s from nearby here. I think John Adams was their AG pick but not sure.

Almost forgot about Gillespie.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:32:27am

re: #335 ObserverArt

Do a print screen which copies the window to the copy board, then open up paint and create a new file which should open as the aspect ratio of your monitor. Hit ‘paste” and the screen captured should paste in. Then save it as a jpeg or gif.

Hope that helps.

PNGs are your friend.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:32:29am

re: #335 ObserverArt

Do a print screen which copies the window to the copy board, then open up paint and create a new file which should open as the aspect ratio of your monitor. Hit ‘paste” and the screen captured should paste in. Then save it as a jpeg or gif.

Hope that helps.

Unfortunately what I saw was just Nate’s projection.

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Franklin  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:32:52am

Ha! Two of my favorite things in one (rock climbing and cats!)

Still frame:

Animated Gif:

i.imgur.com

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Sir John Barron  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:33:26am

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Yeah I didn’t like CNN’s dot-map thing, but at least it has the state outline compared with the national popular vote, the latter of which Hillary Clinton won by the way, despite what agent orange man says.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:33:29am

re: #337 Sir John Barron

Almost forgot about Gillespie.

I think we’re going to finish him off here. I just don’t think he’ll be able to compete with Northam. He’s got the money but you saw that Stewart nearly beat him. He’s not going to win too many popularity contests with the GOP base.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:34:11am

re: #341 Sir John Barron

Yeah I didn’t like CNN’s dot-map thing, but at least it has the state outline compared with the national popular vote, the latter of which Hillary Clinton won by the way, despite what agent orange man says.

I’ll put a link to it anyhow. I’m just trying ot illustrate to my boss how the maps have evolved.

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:34:36am

re: #338 Timothy Watson

PNGs are your friend.

I use pngs…I just didn’t know if paint saved in that format. I don’t use paint…since I pay for the Adobe CC suite.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:37:13am

It’s all going on a word file. It’ll probably be too big to page in the end. But anyhow, basically the idea that the Founders didn’t trust the common people hence why the EC was created is sort of incorrect, tehy were more afraid of people resorting to choosing favorites based off region and all that and that was their fear. However, I think that’s a bit unfounded with we have more access to information than we did in the past and as we saw Trump’s homestate and home city overwhelmingly rejected him.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:37:29am

re: #344 ObserverArt

I use pngs…I just didn’t know if paint saved in that format. I don’t use paint…since I pay for the Adobe CC suite.

Ah, yeah, I’m usually at work and Paint is all I have since I can’t install anything (although I have used GIMP from a flash drive before for work stuff).

I think Paint’s supported PNGs since Windows 7.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:39:20am

Timothy though, what can you tell me about Vogel? I’m terrible on our local stuff for the most part. I’m really bummed that the lady I worked for Delegate lost the nomination since she had better access to resources than our opponent and I think was more qualified too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:42:10am

Anyhow, just wrote about faithless electors and all that. Going to take a brief break from this since it’s something I have some time to work on.

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mmmirele  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:42:27am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

Schweikert should talk. He was upset at Indivisible people, many of whom are as old or older than him, protesting his office and bringing him cookies.

azcentral.com

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makeitstop  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:42:40am

re: #326 ObserverArt

Is anyone else getting the wrong video loading at Rawstory? I get a Larry King video.

I hate Rawstory…it is so full of junk…

Me, too. And I’d much rather watch Nancy Smash than shriveled up old Larry King.

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451_Montag  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:43:35am

re:

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Timothy Watson  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:44:41am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

Timothy though, what can you tell me about Vogel? I’m terrible on our local stuff for the most part. I’m really bummed that the lady I worked for Delegate lost the nomination since she had better access to resources than our opponent and I think was more qualified too.

Here’s a write-up about her from a GOP moderate on a conservative blog. The author, Brian Schoeneman, talks about how she previously had a pretty moderate record but went hard right for the primary. She got the endorsement of E.W. Jackson and sent out a transphobic mailer.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2017 • 10:51:48am

re: #352 Timothy Watson

Here’s a write-up about her from a GOP moderate on a conservative blog. The author, Brian Schoeneman, talks about how she previously had a pretty moderate record but went hard right for the primary. She got the endorsement of E.W. Jackson and sent out a transphobic mailer.

Thanks so she’s a blatant panderer.

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BeachDem  Jun 15, 2017 • 1:02:41pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

Wow. Never thought I’d see that. He’s right though.

In a candid and lengthy interview with Politico Magazine, Rep. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) said that Donald Trump has “fanned the flames of intolerance,”

washingtonpost.com
And that was back in February.

Sanford has no fucks to give when it comes to Trump. He’s also come out strong against his old buddy Mulvaney and his budget:

“This budget presumes a Goldilocks economy,” Sanford said. “It assumes that the stars perfectly align with regard to economic drivers. Can you guess the last time we had an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent, growth of 3 percent and inflation held at 2 percent?” Sanford informed Mulvaney that it had never happened. He said of 3 percent growth: “It’s frankly not only a myth. It’s a lie.”

Maybe Trump threatening to primary Sanford wasn’t such a great idea…


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