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calochortus  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:09:57pm

Awwwwww. Too bad. So sad.
Or not.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:12:11pm
“White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer will step back from giving reporters the daily press briefing”

He tried turning off the cameras, he tried turning off the recorders, he tried hiding in the bushes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:12:12pm

Yet another Republican OD’s from kissing Trump’s ass!

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:13:34pm

I hear they’re going to replace him with an animatronic velociraptor.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:14:21pm
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calochortus  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:14:44pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

I hear they’re going to replace him with an animatronic velociraptor.

That would eliminate the problem of no humanoid wanting the job.

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The Spite House  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:16:38pm
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Skip Intro  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:16:40pm

Jared’s pick Martosko seems to be a big enough asshole to fit in well with trump.

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Kragar  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:16:40pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:17:25pm

Now this is just downright embarrassing:
US Shakespeare theaters report abuse amid uproar over Trump-like Caesar
Apparently, ignorant wingnuts are launching verbal assaults and threats against any and all Shakespeare organizations who have an in-the-park production; that is, quite a few of them. They seem to think that all productions of Julius Caesar, or perhaps all Shakespearean plays, include the Trump-like character.

In Lenox, Massachusetts, an all-year Shakespeare festival received around 40 abusive messages, the Boston Globe reported. One reportedly wished Shakespeare & Company “the worst possible life you could have and hope you all get sick and die”.

In Texas, meanwhile, Shakespeare Dallas artistic director Raphael Parry reported the receipt of around 80 messages including threats of rape and death and one suggestion, referencing the fate of Shakespeare’s Caesar, that theater staff should be “sent to Isis to be killed with real knives”.

“We just got slammed,” Parry told the Globe. “It’s pretty amazing the vitriol, the wishing we would die and our family would die. A whole lot of them say that we should burn in hell.”

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bratwurst  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:19:40pm
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Jay C  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:20:20pm

So Sean Spicer’s for the dumpster after just what? 5 months on the job?
I almost feel sorry for the poor slob - trying to maintain something approaching reasonable relations with the press for this abominable Administration has got to be an impossible task.

Almost, but not quite: fuck this stupid buffoon, and good riddance. The only sad part of this is that his boss won’t be leaving with him….

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:20:25pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:21:48pm

What an administration. The Greatest. Why would anyone work with this clan of cons? I suspect many are asking that question. Why wouldn’t you ask when you see people hiring lawyers? If this fool goes a full year in the damn job will he even have the same staff he started with?

Trump The Fuck Up.

By the way, I see Spicer as the kind of guy that might lash back at Trump. I hope he runs his mouth. Hey Sean, ignore those non disclosure agreements. Trump demands loyalty and look where it got you.

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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:23:24pm

Laura Ingraham is rumored to be Spicey’s replacement. If she gets the job, her tenure should be orders of magnitude more interesting than Spicey’s. That is, if she lets the media record the events of the White House. Who knows. Just today they barred audio and video from the press “gaggle.” I can see Laura confiscating pens and notebooks from the press room.

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stpaulbear  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:27:26pm

If I was Spencer, I’d go home and cry out of relief that it’s finally over. I can imagine what it’s like working for Trump and I can’t see how anybody stays. The pay can’t be that good.

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Kragar  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:28:07pm

re: #20 stpaulbear

Wrong rightwing douche hat

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calochortus  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:28:19pm

re: #20 stpaulbear

If I was Spencer, I’d go home and cry out of relief that it’s finally over. I can imagine what it’s like working for Trump and I can’t see how anybody stays. The pay can’t be that good.

I think he’ll still be running the Office of Communications or whatever it is. He just won’t be Press Secretary.

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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:29:10pm

re: #20 stpaulbear

If I was Spencer Spicer, I’d go home and cry out of relief that it’s finally over. I can imagine what it’s like working for Trump and I can’t see how anybody stays. The pay can’t be that good.

FTFY

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Skip Intro  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:29:42pm

re: #20 stpaulbear

He’s not leaving, he’s being kicked upstairs.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:29:54pm

re: #22 calochortus

I think he’ll still be running the Office of Communications or whatever it is. He just won’t be Press Secretary.

It will be presented as a promotion for exceptional service.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:30:17pm
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stpaulbear  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:33:57pm

re: #21 Kragar

re: #22 calochortus

re: #24 Skip Intro

Gah. I got everything wrong. Mind on other things this evening…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:36:38pm

re: #26 jaunte

Joe @activistmode
Because Republican senators will LIE to their own constituents about who cut their Healthcare #holdthefloor
10:28 PM - 19 Jun 2017

There is no political party more dishonest, deceptive, or hypocritical than the modern Republican party.

Spicer may never have gotten over the fact that Trump did not permit him to meet the Pope — a meeting that would have actually meant something to him. Maybe he will eventually gain enough courage to leave this White House and speak the truth — but probably not.

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Targetpractice  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:37:45pm

A live image of Sean’s career trajectory:

Failure Of First Submarine Test Launch Of Trident II-D5 (PEM-1)

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calochortus  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:38:37pm

re: #28 stpaulbear

Gah. I got everything wrong. Mind on other things this evening…

It happens to all of us occasionally.

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MsJ  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:40:07pm

There was chatter about no more briefings by Spicer weeks ago, but not because he’s going anywhere but because Trump et all are giving the press a big fuck you (like today). They’re simple not going to have daily briefings any longer.

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MsJ  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:42:15pm

I wouldn’t watch Megan Kelly interview someone I was interested in. I’m certainly not going to watch her interview someone like Jones. I’m not interested in seeing her at all. Ever.

She’ll never get any ratings from this house. Not. Ever.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:45:24pm

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:46:06pm

re: #32 MsJ

There was chatter about no more briefings by Spicer weeks ago, but not because he’s going anywhere but because Trump et all are giving the press a big fuck you (like today). They’re simple not going to have daily briefings any longer.

The Washington Post’s new motto “Democracy Dies in Darkness” describes exactly what is happening now: the Senate operates in darkness; the WH now operates in darkness. We are being governed by decree and not consent.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:46:42pm

re: #20 stpaulbear

If I was Spencer, I’d go home and cry out of relief that it’s finally over. I can imagine what it’s like working for Trump and I can’t see how anybody stays. The pay can’t be that good.

I would be totally unsurprised if Richard Spencer were named to a White House position, given that the two Stephens (Bannon and Miller) are both fans of him.

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calochortus  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:48:35pm

re: #34 Shiplord Kirel

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Doesn’t Canada have private air traffic control? Probably not quite like Trump envisions, but it might not be one of his stupidest ideas.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:50:36pm
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Kragar  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:51:45pm

re: #37 calochortus

Doesn’t Canada have private air traffic control? Probably not quite like Trump envisions, but it might not be one of his stupidest ideas.

You’re confusing Canada’s private and strictly regulated air traffic system with Trump’s blatant money grab.

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austin_blue  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:52:24pm

re: #13 Jay C

So Sean Spicer’s for the dumpster after just what? 5 months on the job?
I almost feel sorry for the poor slob - trying to maintain something approaching reasonable relations with the press for this abominable Administration has got to be an impossible task.

Almost, but not quite: fuck this stupid buffoon, and good riddance. The only sad part of this is that his boss won’t be leaving with him….

Rumor has it that he is being promoted to Communications Director.

Maybe Ivanka shamed her dad into doing it after denying Spicey a meeting with the Pope, which he desperately wanted.

Getting him out from behind the microphone trying to defend the indefensible will at least allow him to regain his ability to take a dump after his morning coffee.

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MsJ  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:54:21pm

re: #37 calochortus

Doesn’t Canada have private air traffic control? Probably not quite like Trump envisions, but it might not be one of his stupidest ideas.

And flying in Canada costs 3x what it does in the US. Just saying.

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calochortus  Jun 19, 2017 • 8:59:39pm

re: #39 Kragar

You’re confusing Canada’s private and strictly regulated air traffic system with Trump’s blatant money grab.

Well, I did say it probably wasn’t quite what Trump was envisioning…

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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:02:45pm

re: #38 jaunte

It is currently 111° F in Phoenix.

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austin_blue  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:03:16pm

re: #41 MsJ

And flying in Canada costs 3x what it does in the US. Just saying.

Advantages to privatizing Air Traffic Control:

No Government pensions.

Disadvantages to privatizing Air Traffic Control:

The two or three lowest bidders, after a round of Best And Final Option discussions, will be awarded a Contract where they will do their damnedest to minimize costs and maximize profits at the cost of the public good and air safety.

What could go wrong?

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:04:52pm

I’d forgotten how much of retail politics is GOP vandalism.

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retired cynic  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:09:51pm

re: #45 jaunte

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I’d forgotten how much of retail politics is GOP vandalism.

“The Great Game.”

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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:09:58pm
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covfefe  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:10:41pm

Now that Louise Mensch was outed as a moonbat scam artist, I hear she’s looking for a new gig…

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:11:02pm

re: #46 retired cynic

Ratfcking.

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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:11:50pm

re: #48 covfefe

Now that Louise Mensch was outed as a moonbat scam artist, I hear she’s looking for a new gig…

Writer for The Young Turks, or perhaps The Intercept?

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calochortus  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:12:39pm

I’m out for the evening.
Hasta mañana, Lizards

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Kragar  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:13:45pm
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covfefe  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:15:45pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:15:57pm

re: #52 Kragar

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Ladies and gentlemen, Exhibit #974742 against having a state religion.

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Kragar  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:18:08pm
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austin_blue  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:18:43pm

Drove 495 miles today. I’m a veg. Talk atcha tomorrow.

Sweet dreams, all.

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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:19:51pm

re: #52 Kragar

Tell that to this couple, who got married in Seattle in 2012.

buzzfeed.com

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Stanley Sea  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:21:36pm

re: #52 Kragar

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Modern Rasputin.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:21:39pm

Information about as many as 198 million registered voters was left on an open online database and only taken down when it was discovered by a cyber security analyst.

The data was stored on publicly accessible files in an Amazon cloud account used by a data analytics contractor employed by the Republican National Committee to help it identify potential audiences for television ads.

Deep Root Analytics’ main database included names, dates of birth, home addresses, phone numbers, and voter registration details for over 198 million registered voters, as well as data that looked as if it attempted to guess each voter’s ethnicity and religion based on other information collected about them. The firm said it believes the data was a mix of proprietary information and publicly available voter data.
………
In this case, the RNC files were not hacked but instead were simply posted online without password protection.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:27:41pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:27:55pm

re: #59 jaunte

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In this case, the RNC files were not hacked but instead were simply posted online without password protection.

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Kragar  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:28:01pm
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retired cynic  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:29:42pm

re: #60 jaunte

He doesn’t care. He knows his constituents won’t.

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Targetpractice  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:31:08pm

re: #60 jaunte

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The GOP entered this year declaring “LET’S SCORE AS MANY HYPOCRISY POINTS AS POSSIBLE!!!” And lo, they did work their asses off to make it happen.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:33:31pm

More climate change news.

“If the nutrient-poor pyrosomes out-compete nutrient-rich crustaceans, it could severely upend the food chain from crustaceans right up to salmon and humpback whales.”

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covfefe  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:37:20pm

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Targetpractice  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:39:46pm

re: #65 jaunte

More climate change news.

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Seems that the Republican “God” doesn’t give much of a fuck if the ocean food chain goes belly-up.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 19, 2017 • 9:50:45pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

Seems that the Republican “God” doesn’t give much of a fuck if the ocean food chain goes belly-up.

He’s a vengeful God, for sure
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wheat-dogg  Jun 19, 2017 • 10:06:16pm

re: #65 jaunte

More climate change news.

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Climate change is going to upend entire industries and people’s livelihoods, but the denialists will continue to argue it’s just a fluke, and say everything will go back to normal in a few years.

While you folks in the USA are baking, here in Central China the temps are remarkably cool for this time of year. In years past, temperatures in the middle of June were already hovering in the high-80s to low-90s (with high humidity), and I’d be running the aircon at home just to be able to sleep at night. Today at 1 pm, it’s around 80 degrees F.

Trump was only part right. The Chinese did not invent climate change as a hoax. They are actually controlling the weather to favor China. //

You read it here first.

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Targetpractice  Jun 19, 2017 • 10:16:17pm

re: #69 wheat-dogg

Climate change is going to upend entire industries and people’s livelihoods, but the denialists will continue to argue it’s just a fluke, and say everything will go back to normal in a few years.

While you folks in the USA are baking, here in Central China the temps are remarkably cool for this time of year. In years past, temperatures in the middle of June were already hovering in the high-80s to low-90s (with high humidity), and I’d be running the aircon at home just to be able to sleep at night. Today at 1 pm, it’s around 80 degrees F.

Trump was only part right. The Chinese did not invent climate change as a hoax. They are actually controlling the weather to favor China. //

You read it here first.

One “serious” conservative I know pretty much typified the thinking that I hear from denialists:

1. “Climate change isn’t happening! Scientists predicted Global Cooling years ago and they were wrong!”

2. “Okay, it’s happening, but there’s no way to prove that humans are responsible! It’s a totally natural phenomenon!”

3. “Okay, so maybe humans play a part in it! But we can’t stop/reverse it, so there’s no point in changing anything we do!”

4. “Alright, so we could possibly reduce the effects if we do something, but it will be easier to just adapt to the problem later!”

5. Finally: “Oh, what do I care if the planet is warming? By the time it hits the breaking point, I’ll be dead and my kids will be the ones to deal with it.”

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Kragar  Jun 19, 2017 • 10:21:33pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 19, 2017 • 10:25:09pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2017 • 10:38:10pm

A water park feature in Austria. This will never happen in the United States.

Instagram

#humancannon #fireball 🔥 #area47 #adrenaline #training #diving #highdiving #redbullcliffdiving #austria #extremesports #fireaway #cannonball 😂 🔮🚀💦

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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2017 • 10:42:46pm

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

Five days ago I gave her a piece of my mind.

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Targetpractice  Jun 19, 2017 • 10:45:36pm

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

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This shit is how shooting wars begin. Now that Russia has announced what’s effectively a no-fly zone, there’s going to be some dickhead in our Armed Forces who will decide to test that. If nothing happens, they’ll assert that the Russians are bluffing and resume operations unimpeded. If targeted but not shot, they’ll just keep sending up birds until the Russians either shoot or give up. All it takes is one Russian pilot with an itchy trigger finger…

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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2017 • 10:52:09pm

re: #43 teleskiguy

It is currently 111° F in Phoenix.

It’s currently 103° F in Phoenix, so it has cooled off somewhat. Hopefully it gets below 100° tonight, Phoenix people need a cool down.

*Full Disclosure, I don’t live in Phoenix*

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teleskiguy  Jun 19, 2017 • 10:56:55pm

I’m watching the Sonoran Desert closely weather-wise. Driest place on earth. May become drier than The Empty Quarter. And over five million people live there.

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Nyet  Jun 19, 2017 • 11:12:20pm

.

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piratedan  Jun 19, 2017 • 11:20:51pm

re: #77 teleskiguy

we’re just now in the moderate drought zone, but it’s late June, its typically dry here then, Monsoonal pattern usually shows up around the 4th of July or so, kicks off earlier by a few weeks in the I25 corridor.

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JordanRules  Jun 19, 2017 • 11:28:07pm

re: #76 teleskiguy

Thanks man! Currently 98 in my hood, just shy of 11:30pm.
Tomorrow should be fun. Uggh.

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Cheechako  Jun 19, 2017 • 11:30:09pm

Come on up to SE Alaska. High today was a brisk 60 and we even had a bit of sunshine.
Currently 48 and getting ready to rain (again).

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sagehen  Jun 19, 2017 • 11:33:46pm

re: #38 jaunte

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Brief explanation of the physics involved:

airplane engines do not make airplanes rise into the air. The propeller blades are shaped, and angled, in such a way that when they rotate they bite into the air and pull the plane forward, much like a drill bit does in rock.

As the plane moves forward, the air its flying through must split; some goes under the wing, some goes over the wing. The wing is shaped in such a way that the air going over it has a farther distance to travel than the air going under the wing. Different speeds = different pressure. That makes lower pressure above the wing than below, creating a vacuum effect. The hole in the air above the wing sucks the plane upwards.

Hotter air has more space between molecules; at 120º, the air is too thin for the hole in the air to be “empty” enough to make a vacuum. The plane doesn’t get sucked upwards. Ergo, gravity pulls it down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 19, 2017 • 11:38:24pm

re: #76 teleskiguy

It’s currently 103° F in Phoenix, so it has cooled off somewhat. Hopefully it gets below 100° tonight, Phoenix people need a cool down.

*Full Disclosure, I don’t live in Phoenix*

I remember when Phoenix used to cool off at night…and yes, so glad I no longer live there

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Targetpractice  Jun 19, 2017 • 11:43:16pm

re: #82 sagehen

Brief explanation of the physics involved:

airplane engines to do not make airplanes rise into the air. The propeller blades are shaped, and angled, in such a way that when they rotate they bite into the air and pull the plane forward, much like a drill bit does in rock.

As the plane moves forward, the air its flying through must split; some goes under the wing, some goes over the wing. The wing is shaped in such a way that the air going over it has a farther distance to travel than the air going under the wing. Different speeds = different pressure. That makes lower pressure above the wing than below, creating a vacuum effect. The hole in the air above the wing sucks the plane upwards.

Hotter air has more space between molecules; at 120º, the air is too thin for the hole in the air to be “empty” enough to make a vacuum. The plane doesn’t get sucked upwards. Ergo, gravity pulls it down.

This has been your LGF Physics Lesson of The Day.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:18:01am

re: #82 sagehen

Hot air is less dense than cooler air, so it exerts less force on control surfaces at normal flying speeds. So, jets would need higher takeoff speeds (and longer runways) to get airborne, which at a civilian airport is a serious risk factor. Higher speeds also would mean higher g-forces in turns, which passengers might not appreciate much.

Prop planes have the additional issue of less thrust from the less dense air, so taking off would be another difficulty.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:19:53am

re: #85 wheat-dogg

I actually remember this stuff from ground school from 35 years ago.

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Apocalypse  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:27:23am

re: #86 wheat-dogg

“ground” school?

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:41:28am

re: #82 sagehen

Brief explanation of the physics involved:

airplane engines do not make airplanes rise into the air. The propeller blades are shaped, and angled, in such a way that when they rotate they bite into the air and pull the plane forward, much like a drill bit does in rock.

As the plane moves forward, the air its flying through must split; some goes under the wing, some goes over the wing. The wing is shaped in such a way that the air going over it has a farther distance to travel than the air going under the wing. Different speeds = different pressure. That makes lower pressure above the wing than below, creating a vacuum effect. The hole in the air above the wing sucks the plane upwards.

Hotter air has more space between molecules; at 120º, the air is too thin for the hole in the air to be “empty” enough to make a vacuum. The plane doesn’t get sucked upwards. Ergo, gravity pulls it down.

Not quite true. What you’ve described is known as the airfoil myth (I think “myth” is a bit harsh, it’s really more of an incomplete theory of flight):

A flat wing works too, but needs a steeper angle of attack for the low-pressure pocket to form on the upper side of the wing (and to cause a stronger deviation of the air downwards to compensate for the weaker lifting force caused by the weaker low-pressure pocket). The disadvantage of this is that a steeper angle of attack causes more drag. The airfoil-shaped wing is more economical because it causes the low-pressure pocket without the need for a steep angle of attack, thus reducing drag.

Incorrect Lift Theory. (from NASA)

Here’s a good description from Cambridge, How Wings Really Work:

It’s one of the most tenacious myths in physics and it frustrates aerodynamicists the world over. Now, University of Cambridge’s Professor Holger Babinsky has created a 1-minute video that he hopes will finally lay to rest a commonly used yet misleading explanation of how wings lift.

“A wing lifts when the air pressure above it is lowered. It’s often said that this happens because the airflow moving over the top, curved surface has a longer distance to travel and needs to go faster to have the same transit time as the air travelling along the lower, flat surface. But this is wrong,” he explained. “I don’t know when the explanation first surfaced but it’s been around for decades. You find it taught in textbooks, explained on television and even described in aircraft manuals for pilots. In the worst case, it can lead to a fundamental misunderstanding of some of the most important principles of aerodynamics.”

To show that this common explanation is wrong, Babinsky filmed pulses of smoke flowing around an aerofoil (the shape of a wing in cross-section). When the video is paused, it’s clear that the transit times above and below the wing are not equal: the air moves faster over the top surface and has already gone past the end of the wing by the time the flow below the aerofoil reaches the end of the lower surface.

“What actually causes lift is introducing a shape into the airflow, which curves the streamlines and introduces pressure changes - lower pressure on the upper surface and higher pressure on the lower surface,” clarified Babinsky, from the Department of Engineering. “This is why a flat surface like a sail is able to cause lift - here the distance on each side is the same but it is slightly curved when it is rigged and so it acts as an aerofoil. In other words, it’s the curvature that creates lift, not the distance.

At the end of the day flight is probably best understood in Newtonian terms by mass deflection, taken as a whole the net volume of air encountering the wing is deflected downwards and in an equal and opposite reaction the entire airplane is thus pushed upwards. Yes, the low pressure pocket above the wing plays a critical role but as previously demonstrated that pocket will form using a flat plank given a steep enough angle of attack. The problem with hot air is that it’s less dense, which means less mass is being deflected downwards. Passenger airplanes can compensate to a point using flaps to increase the volume of air being deflected, but at a certain point the air becomes too thin to support safe takeoff and landing.

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:45:56am

I personally prefer to use the F-4 Phantom II as an example of how you can make a brick fly if you put enough thrust behind it.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:55:34am

re: #88 goddamnedfrank

Stick and Rudder: An Explanation of the Art of Flying by Wolfgang Langewiesche is probably the best flying how-to ever written. It is the one book that would get you through if you somehow had to teach yourself to fly with no help from anyone else. Langewiesche, too, dismisses the airfoil myth out of hand. He says to think of a a wing simply as an inclined plane. All the complicated invocation of Bernoulli’s Theorem and such is probably motivated by a reluctance to believe that the first, simplest, and most intuitive impression is in fact correct. This is understandable, since intuitive “common sense” notions will get you killed in a hurry in many aspects of aviation. Not this time, though. It works. Similarly, thin air provides less lift because there is less of it. It’s that simple.
That is my 6820 hours speaking, fwiw.

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sagehen  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:57:37am

re: #87 Apocalypse

“ground” school?

Ground school is the lessons you take to be able to pass the written test, which you need to get a student license; instructors won’t usually waste time giving you lessons until you’ve got it. The test has physics of flight, how the engine works, weight & balance, weather, navigation and laws.

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:59:11am

re: #91 sagehen

Ground school is the lessons you take to be able to pass the written test, which you need to get a student license; instructors won’t usually waste time giving you lessons until you’ve got it. The test has physics of flight, how the engine works, weight & balance, weather, navigation and laws.

“How the engine works”? It just does. What’s so complicated about that?

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 1:01:04am

re: #92 Targetpractice

“How the engine works”? It just does. What’s so complicated about that?

//

you turn the switch and it goes “vroom” (or “whoosh” if it is a jet)

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 20, 2017 • 1:05:05am

re: #90 Shiplord Kirel

Langewiesche, too, dismisses the airfoil myth out of hand.

It probably helps if we think of the airfoil and for that matter almost the entirety of aerodynamic science as being primarily about two things, stability and overcoming drag/friction. Getting airborne is relatively straight forward, staying there for any appreciable length of time is much less so.

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ozharas  Jun 20, 2017 • 1:07:05am

The RAAF (Royal Australian Air Force) suspends air strikes over Syria with Russian threat.

theage.com.au

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 1:12:35am

re: #95 ozharas

The RAAF (Royal Australian Air Force) suspends air strikes over Syria with Russian threat.

theage.com.au

and shake their heads at Trump for being such a hapless, easily conned jerk

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2017 • 1:16:31am

re: #95 ozharas

The RAAF (Royal Australian Air Force) suspends air strikes over Syria with Russian threat.

theage.com.au

I suspect other nations participating in the bombings will shortly make the same announcement. But our president* already abdicated his CinC responsibilities to Mattis, so I suspect we’ll continue to antagonize the Russians until they blow one of our birds out of the sky. When that happens, it’s all over but the crying.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 1:18:19am

re: #97 Targetpractice

I suspect other nations participating in the bombings will shortly make the same announcement. But our president* already abdicated his CinC responsibilities to Mattis, so I suspect we’ll continue to antagonize the Russians until they blow one of our birds out of the sky. When that happens, it’s all over but the crying.

This is what the Russians were bargaining for by helping DT get elected: the US as hapless and dysfunctional, leaving them a free hand in all international matters.

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Apocalypse  Jun 20, 2017 • 1:21:03am

re: #91 sagehen

Thanks, I thought Wheat had made a typo, wasn’t aware it was an actual thing.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 20, 2017 • 1:23:33am

re: #92 Targetpractice

“How the engine works”? It just does. What’s so complicated about that?

//

Somehow reminded me of this earth-shattering revelation from CNN: The Boeing 777 has difficulty flying without fuel.

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Kragar  Jun 20, 2017 • 1:31:23am
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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2017 • 1:34:11am

re: #101 Kragar

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Besides, the Tories cleared out this year’s wanker surplus between the surprise election and Grenfell Tower.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 1:59:30am

Wasn’t Oliver Stone on recently with his Putin Interviews claiming that there is no discrimination against gays in Russia?

European Court condemns Russia ‘gay propaganda’ law

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Timothy Watson  Jun 20, 2017 • 2:12:47am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wasn’t Oliver Stone on recently with his Putin Interviews claiming that there is no discrimination against gays in Russia?

European Court condemns Russia ‘gay propaganda’ law

GLOBALIST PLOT!1!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 2:22:34am

Stone, and all the Putinversteher I have encountered have one valid point: that is that it is incorrect and misleading to discuss Putin in Cold War Terms.

This is no longer a worldwide struggle between competing ideologies, this is purely a manifestation of Russian nationalism and imperialism. It is generally limited to the former Russian Empire (or the ex-USSR) and the states immediately bordering on it (which is a sizable chunk of the world in itself).

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VegasGolfer  Jun 20, 2017 • 2:35:51am

re: #37 calochortus

hey bro, i don’t know who you are, but i worked in air traffic control for 26 yrs, and sir, you don’t know what the fvck you’re talking about.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 3:08:40am

re: #99 Apocalypse

Thanks, I thought Wheat had made a typo, wasn’t aware it was an actual thing.

They want you learn stuff on the ground before you go up in the air and potentially do damage to people and things.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 20, 2017 • 3:28:57am

re: #5 jaunte

It doesn’t matter who takes the job since whoever it is will continue to stonewall the media and lie on Trump’s behalf. I’ve heard that Laura “Nazi Hand Gestures” Ingraham is in the running.

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jeffreyw  Jun 20, 2017 • 4:28:05am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Timothy Watson  Jun 20, 2017 • 4:32:05am

re: #109 jeffreyw

“What are you looking at?”

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 20, 2017 • 4:36:16am

I’m going to buy Mr. Spicer a nice fruit basket.

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I cannot.  Jun 20, 2017 • 4:40:16am

re: #111 Romantic Heretic

One that’s about a week out of date…

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 20, 2017 • 4:40:16am

re: #11 Kragar

At least Mad Dog isn’t an evil bastard like the rest of Trump’s administration.

I’m not nuts. I’m condiments. I’ve been promoted.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 20, 2017 • 4:46:28am

re: #52 Kragar

(speaking to the supposed Man of God)

Buddy? That hat is really gay.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2017 • 4:48:02am

re: #114 Romantic Heretic

Buddy? That hat is really gay.

It’s fabulous. Can someone let him know Putin doesn’t have a beard or honestly from what I’ve seen ever had one?

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Timothy Watson  Jun 20, 2017 • 4:49:45am

re: #115 HappyWarrior

It’s fabulous. Can someone let him know Putin doesn’t have a beard or honestly from what I’ve seen ever had one?

Is it bad that I read “fabulous” in my mind in a really flamboyant voice?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2017 • 4:50:05am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Stone, and all the Putinversteher I have encountered have one valid point: that is that it is incorrect and misleading to discuss Putin in Cold War Terms.

This is no longer a worldwide struggle between competing ideologies, this is purely a manifestation of Russian nationalism and imperialism. It is generally limited to the former Russian Empire (or the ex-USSR) and the states immediately bordering on it (which is a sizable chunk of the world in itself).

Right. Even though Putin was a product of the Cold War, this is ore USSR. Anyhow Stone can fuck off. He may be a decent filmmaker but he’s an absolute idiot politics wise.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2017 • 4:50:24am

re: #116 Timothy Watson

Is it bad that I read “fabulous” in my mind in a really flamboyant voice?

That was the point. :)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 4:51:03am

Last night I dreamed Louise Mensch was chasing me and I had to get away from her.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2017 • 4:52:38am

re: #12 bratwurst

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It’s that he bashes the Democratic Party repeatedly while taking their money. Sirota like too many lefty bros thinks leadership is a voting record. It’s not.

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William Lewis  Jun 20, 2017 • 4:54:25am

re: #90 Shiplord Kirel

Stick and Rudder: An Explanation of the Art of Flying by Wolfgang Langewiesche is probably the best flying how-to ever written. It is the one book that would get you through if you somehow had to teach yourself to fly with no help from anyone else. Langewiesche, too, dismisses the airfoil myth out of hand. He says to think of a a wing simply as an inclined plane. All the complicated invocation of Bernoulli’s Theorem and such is probably motivated by a reluctance to believe that the first, simplest, and most intuitive impression is in fact correct. This is understandable, since intuitive “common sense” notions will get you killed in a hurry in many aspects of aviation. Not this time, though. It works. Similarly, thin air provides less lift because there is less of it. It’s that simple.
That is my 6820 hours speaking, fwiw.

My wallet hates you (into the amazon cart it goes).

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Timothy Watson  Jun 20, 2017 • 4:59:24am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Last night I dreamed Louise Mensch was chasing me and I had to get away from her.

Did you try throwing her some rubles?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:01:15am

Lre: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Last night I dreamed Louise Mensch was chasing me and I had to get away from her.

Agh politics related dreams are creepy. I did have a cool one once where I was part of a husband and wife performing team that played for the JFK though.

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:07:59am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Last night I dreamed Louise Mensch was chasing me and I had to get away from her.

Still a lot better than the dreams I’ve had since ‘15 sometime…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:10:28am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:19:32am

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

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Yeah how dare those gay couples have a loving home. Somehow doubt Abbott would accept a gay owned adoption agency refusing to let Christians adopt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:23:59am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

Yeah how dare those gay couples have a loving home. Somehow doubt Abbott would accept a gay owned adoption agency refusing to let Christians adopt.

Because such a thing is not likely to exist…just like you would not find a gay-owned bakery refusing to cater a hetero wedding.

Remember, the Pilgrims did not come to America to practice religions freedom, they came here because Europe did not allow them to practice religious oppression.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:27:55am

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because such a thing is not likely to exist…just like you would not find a gay-owned bakery refusing to cater a hetero wedding.

Remember, the Pilgrims did not come to America to practice religions freedom, they came here because Europe did not allow them to practice religious oppression.

I know. That’s honestly part of my point. Christians can define themselves as such even when operating a business that offers secular goods such as cake and flowers and discriminate as such but if the shoe were flipped, these people would go ballistic.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:31:50am

re: #128 HappyWarrior

I know. That’s honestly part of my point. Christians can define themselves as such even when operating a business that offers secular goods such as cake and flowers and discriminate as such but if the shoe were flipped, these people would go ballistic.

These “oppressed” bakers and photographers and wedding planners cry about how their “oppression” is EXACTLY THE SAME!!!!!! as “forcing a kosher or halal bakery to provide a bacon cake.”

They do not understand how kosher and halal bakeries work or in fact how public-facing business works.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:32:45am

re: #129 The Vicious Babushka

These “oppressed” bakers and photographers and wedding planners cry about how their “oppression” is EXACTLY THE SAME!!!!!! as “forcing a kosher or halal bakery to provide a bacon cake.”

They do not understand how kosher and halal bakeries work or in fact how public-facing business works.

and it’s okay to murder a black Julius Caesar on stage, but not a white one with an orange wig…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:35:08am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and it’s okay to murder a black Julius Caesar on stage, but not a white one with an orange wig…

They don’t know how Shakespeare works.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:35:08am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and it’s okay to murder a black Julius Caesar on stage, but not a white one with an orange wig…

The black Caesar was obviously a thug who had it coming…

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:35:45am

Black was the old orange.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:36:42am

re: #131 The Vicious Babushka

They don’t know how Shakespeare anything to do with literature works.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:37:45am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They don’t know how Shakespeare anything to do with literature works.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:39:13am

The whole Julius Caesar blowup reminds me a bit of the Mohammed Cartoon kerfuffle of several years back: the people who were behind both are aware of the nuances, that in one case, the governments in Western Democracies do not dictate or restrict the content of newspapers, or that a stage play can take liberties with the setting to make it more relevant, but it both cases, the perpetrators pushed the outrage angle in order to promote a particular agenda.

And in both cases, they knew that their target audiences were too undereducated to realize those distinctions.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:39:55am

re: #129 The Vicious Babushka

These “oppressed” bakers and photographers and wedding planners cry about how their “oppression” is EXACTLY THE SAME!!!!!! as “forcing a kosher or halal bakery to provide a bacon cake.”

They do not understand how kosher and halal bakeries work or in fact how public-facing business works.

Exactly Christian/Gay wedding cake. All the same ingredients. A halal or kosher bakery has different ingredients which is why this analogy is a fail. They just want to be able be bigots without being called on it.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:41:39am

Morning all…. Gonna be a hot one in the Hill Country today.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:41:41am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

Exactly Christian/Gay wedding cake. All the same ingredients. A halal or kosher bakery has different ingredients which is why this analogy is a fail. They just want to be able be bigots without being called on it.

The only difference I can see is the Christian bakery owner might not stock 2 brides or 2 grooms wedding cake toppers. In which case the customer would have to provide their own topper.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:42:03am

Uhh, CNN: An aircraft always struggles to maintain altitude except when the fuel tanks are empty. Then it stops struggling.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:43:12am

You’re not a Christian baker anymore then I’m an Agnostic legal aide. re: #139 The Vicious Babushka

The only difference I can see is the Christian bakery owner might not stock 2 brides or 2 grooms wedding cake toppers. In which case the customer would have to provide their own topper.

Exactly.

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:43:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:44:38am

Dressing Julius Caesar in a Trump wig was just a joke, people…get over it!

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:46:15am

re: #142 Teukka

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I could put up with everything the GOP has planned for our nation and the world, but when they turn to fat shaming, it’s just a step too far.

WTF

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:47:22am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Dressing Julius Caesar in a Trump wig was just a joke, people…get over it!

No, it’s just another thing theatre people do to separate their production from the crowd. They run to the show-offy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:48:17am

re: #145 Decatur Deb

No, it’s just another thing theatre people do to separate their production from the crowd. They run to the show-offy.

We all know that they do it out of Liberal Hate and Intolerance.

/

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:48:33am

re: #144 Decatur Deb

I could put up with everything the GOP has planned for our nation and the world, but when they turn to fat shaming, it’s just a step too far.

WTF

They are anti-PC. They glory in the right to say whatever they want about anyone — but they are absolute snowflakes when anyone makes a comment critical of them.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:49:45am

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

They are anti-PC. They glory in the right to say whatever they want about anyone — but they are absolute snowflakes when anyone makes a comment critical of them.

See, the lady who flipped her shit over the joke on her Starbucks cup because she was wearing a Trump shirt.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:50:07am

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

They are anti-PC. They glory in the right to say whatever they want about anyone — but they are absolute snowflakes when anyone makes a comment critical of them.

We are so bright we are going to win every rhetorical point and lose every election.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:51:36am

re: #149 Decatur Deb

We are so bright we are going to win every rhetorical point and lose every election.

We refuse to be dragged down to their level even though politics has turned into a race to appeal to the lowest common denominator…

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:53:06am

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

They are anti-PC. They glory in the right to say whatever they want about anyone — but they are absolute snowflakes when anyone makes a comment critical of them.

They still haven’t gotten that when not taken to extremes, PC basically boils down to not being a dick…

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:53:49am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We refuse to be dragged down to their level even though politics has turned into a race to appeal to the lowest common denominator…

At least that will give me a warm glow as I watch 80 years of progress erased.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:55:42am

re: #152 Decatur Deb

At least that will give me a warm glow as I watch 80 years of progress erased.

We came to take a lot of that stuff for granted, and guess what? It ain’t. Means we will have to work twice as hard again to see it restored and maintained.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Jun 20, 2017 • 5:57:18am

re: #138 Dave In Austin

OK, you got me, what was that?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:01:27am

re: #154 (Bert the Turtle)

OK, you got me, what was that?

gators

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darthstar  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:05:58am

Spicer searching for a replacement? So I guess Huckabooboo isn’t getting the job. Tells you how much Trump likes her.

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b.d.  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:06:11am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and it’s okay to murder a black Julius Caesar on stage, but not a white one with an orange wig…

Don’t kill teh Orange Julius!!!

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b.d.  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:06:52am

re: #156 darthstar

Spicer searching for a replacement? So I guess Huckabooboo isn’t getting the job. Tells you how much Trump likes her.

She’s not a supermodel so Trump has no use for her.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:07:28am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

gators

Nope……

Manatees…..

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:08:51am

Watching pics from the Portugal forest fire…
Image: portugal-forest-fires.jpg

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makeitstop  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:08:58am

re: #156 darthstar

Spicer searching for a replacement? So I guess Huckabooboo isn’t getting the job. Tells you how much Trump likes her.

She may get it simply for the fact that nobody else wants the job.

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b.d.  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:09:49am

re: #161 makeitstop

She may get it simply for the fact that nobody else wants the job.

I hear Bill O’Reilly is looking for work…

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mmmirele  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:10:19am

re: #76 teleskiguy

It’s currently 103° F in Phoenix, so it has cooled off somewhat. Hopefully it gets below 100° tonight, Phoenix people need a cool down.

*Full Disclosure, I don’t live in Phoenix*

It’s 82 right now, and the sun’s been up for a bit. Our excessive heat warning has been extended to Sunday at 9 pm.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:12:34am

But but but but the left is dangerous!

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b.d.  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:21:08am

re: #164 Dr. Matt

But but but but the left is dangerous!

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LONE WOLF!

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Dizzy  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:21:28am

A little candy for the history buffs around here. A 600-Year-Old Sword Found in Texas.

YouTube

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:23:35am

re: #165 b.d.

LONE WOLF!

Mentality Disturbed!!11!!

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darthstar  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:25:31am

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:27:46am

re: #163 mmmirele

SoCal is gonna cook pretty thoroughly. And now the fires. Libraries etc are open as cool shelters for those stuck in the heat. Big Bear
Castaic

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darthstar  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:28:01am

re: #166 Dizzy

A little candy for the history buffs around here. A 600-Year-Old Sword Found in Texas.

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Video

Oh, hey, that’s mine. Yeah. Fell out of my pocket when I was visiting a few years back…wondered where it went.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:28:14am

re: #168 darthstar

a mentally ill person with a history of gun violence and domestic violence who nonetheless had a license to purchase firearms legally…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:28:55am

re: #169 Unshaken Defiance

SoCal is gonna cook pretty thoroughly. And now the fires. Libraries etc are open as cool shelters for those stuck in the heat. Big Bear
Castaic

nothing like a good rainy season to promote growth of the underbrush…

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darthstar  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:30:48am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:32:37am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Quite true. IIRC, the drought breaking pattern includes a summer hotter than most. So far electricity providers are ok.

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:33:47am

re: #151 Teukka

They still haven’t gotten that when not taken to extremes, PC basically boils down to not being a dick…

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:38:22am

It’s morning, again.

you?

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:42:25am

re: #73 teleskiguy

I see and raise….

Looping water slide. I’ve seen this in person (but after they shut down the ride because everyone kept getting hurt riding it).

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darthstar  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:42:46am

re: #173 darthstar

The atlantic article linked in the tweet above is pretty damn good. Here it is for those without Twitter:
theatlantic.com

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:46:19am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:48:59am

So, I started listening to Dark Money by Jane Mayer. It is definitely biased version of events —starting with the Koch brothers and expanding outwards.

Yet, if one thing in her account is true, it’s scary as fuck.

Control for the uber rich, anarchy for everyone else —is the basic premise.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:50:11am

re: #175 Teukka

PC basically boils down to not being a dick…

so stealing this.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:52:23am

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. The storms last night cleared out the humidity, and one can only hope that the coming storm of indictments (which aren’t likely to happen before next year in any event) will sweep out the GOP and their cabal of craven cronies.

The damage they’re doing is already taking a toll on people, and the need now is to limit the damage. The special election in GA-6 is today, and Ossoff v. Handel is the headline event, but there’s lots more to be done ahead of next year.

There’s the GOP still trying to push tax cuts for the rich as a form of health care reform (they cut health care coverage for millions, boost the uninsured rate beyond the pre-Obamacare days, and call it a day after rich folks get massive tax cuts) and they’re separately pursuing tax reform, which is yet another scheme to reduce the burden on the rich and shift all the burdens to everyone else.

Yet, the GOP can’t escape the gravity of the Russia-Trump mess, and it’s finally starting to penetrate the GOP derp.

This is key; if the GOP rank and file realize that Trump’s running for the other side - the Russians, then the GOP will have to engage in some serious pretzel logic avoiding the shit storm of their own creation by aligning with a guy who was so thoroughly compromised from before he even entered the race that it shows just how debased the GOP is as a party. They continue enabling Trump at every opportunity, and there’s no way they have clean hands in all this - that goes double for McConnell and Ryan.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:56:42am

re: #181 Birth Control Works

PC basically boils down to not being a dick

…so stealing this.

That point has been made here (and elsewhere) before

But yes, it is still valid.

You have the right to be a dick, you just do not have the right to be immune from your words and actions (unless you are the President or one of his staff)

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:57:17am

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:58:57am

re: #177 lawhawk

I see and raise….

Looping water slide. I’ve seen this in person (but after they shut down the ride because everyone kept getting hurt riding it).

Have they released the semi-documentary comedy on Action Park yet?

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 6:59:24am

re: #180 Birth Control Works

So, I started listening to Dark Money by Jane Mayer. It is definitely biased version of events —starting with the Koch brothers and expanding outwards.

Yet, if one thing in her account is true, it’s scary as fuck.

Control for the uber rich, anarchy for everyone else —is the basic premise.

A return to feudalism, basically. The modern über rich would do well to read up on some history; the medieval über rich had as much troubles with anarchy as the peasants did.

Case in point: depriving the underclasses of affordable health care can lead to outbreaks of contagious diseases, which don’t discriminate according to social class. Depriving the underclasses of a livable income leads to discontent and unrest, and guess who they will blame for their sorry lot?

See also, the French Revolution and the Russian Revolution. Did not go well for the über rich.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:00:27am

re: #184 Birth Control Works

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For a portion of the population, being a dick is the only reward in life. You can find them even on the elementary school playgrounds.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:01:16am

re: #186 wheat-dogg

A return to feudalism, basically. The modern über rich would do well to read up on some history; the medieval über rich had as much troubles with anarchy as the peasants did.

That was before they invented Soylent Green

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:01:25am

re: #187 Decatur Deb

For a portion of the population, being a dick is the only reward in life. You can find them even on the elementary school playgrounds.

It’s those schoolyard dicks who are now grown up, and trying to run the country.

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austin_blue  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:01:58am

re: #140 Decatur Deb

Uhh, CNN: An aircraft always struggles to maintain altitude except when the fuel tanks are empty. Then it stops struggling.

And, of course, its would be impossible for a modern airliner to run out of gas with all of the redundant systems available. Oh, wait…

en.wikipedia.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:02:36am

re: #189 wheat-dogg

It’s those schoolyard dicks who are now grown up, and trying to run the country.

and get revenge on everyone they perceived to have slighted them in the past

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:03:29am

re: #45 jaunte

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I’d forgotten how much of retail politics is GOP vandalism.

That is a really good article.

I think this is the key takeaway, mysekf:

 “Jon is reaching out to everyone, and we need that here,” says Indivisible cofounder Amy Nosek, who was a supporter of Senator Bernie Sanders in last year’s Democratic primary. “There’s no way the sixth district is ready for a Bernie right now. I think of Jon as a pragmatic progressive, and that’s what we need.

And…

 It’s been hard for some on the left to get their minds around all the energy in the sixth district, in part because Ossoff, the object of all of this activism, disappoints them by opposing single-payer health care and tax hikes, even on the rich. Progressive Democrat Stacey Abrams, the Georgia House minority leader who is running for governor next year, endorsed Ossoff early. “What Jon understands is that being progressive in the South looks different than it does in other states. We have to work with, not just against.
…..
 Longtime Democratic activist James Brown, who grew up in rural Alabama and voted for Senator Bernie Sanders in the primary, says, “We live in a conservative Republican district, so I couldn’t expect someone to represent this district and be where I am.” “This is Georgia, for God’s sake. I actually haven’t heard [progressive] people in the district criticizing him for any of that. We live here—we understand.”

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:06:04am

re: #190 austin_blue

And, of course, its would be impossible for a modern airliner to run out of gas with all of the redundant systems available. Oh, wait…

en.wikipedia.org

My old Land Rover gets much better mpg if I use the original British fuel in both tanks.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:06:50am

Had to take break fro Dark Money (getting to angry), so I switched to Revolt in 2100 by Robert Heinlein.

Yeah, no really a good choice as it is set in the a version of the future the Dominionists are working towards. Heinlein does a good job showing how dogma is difficult to combat.

So, I went from angry to nihilistic in two books.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:06:51am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:06:57am

re: #193 Decatur Deb

My old Land Rover gets much better mpg if I use the original British fuel in both tanks.

you mean petrol?

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:07:39am

re: #187 Decatur Deb

For a portion of the population, being a dick is the only reward in life. You can find them even on the elementary school playgrounds.

teachers?

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:08:47am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

you mean petrol?

Imperial petrol. (Or 95 proof booze in a pinch.)

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:09:09am

re: #197 Birth Control Works

teachers?

Yeah—them too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:09:38am

re: #198 Decatur Deb

Imperial petrol. (Or 95 proof booze in a pinch.)

ah yes, you get better mileage if you use imperial gallons…

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:09:50am

re: #199 Decatur Deb

Yeah—them too.

Hey, now. Some of us here are teachers.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:10:13am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

ah yes, you get better mileage if you use imperial gallons…

Special order in Alabama, though.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:11:03am

re: #185 Decatur Deb

I thought they did a few years back….

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:12:19am

re: #203 lawhawk

I thought they did a few years back….

I’ve only seen an interview with the owner’s son, here. There’s supposed to be one by the guy who did the “Jackass” movies.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:12:33am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:13:40am

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

Well, I wonder how the Orange Yam will respond to this news.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:14:09am

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

Ford to import Focus small car from China

let’s all demand that Trump impose a 30% import tariff like he promised!

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:14:19am

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

I hear they’re going to replace him with an animatronic velociraptor.

Or the talking parrot from Disneyland’s Tiki House, at a minimum.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:17:23am

re: #206 wheat-dogg

Well, I wonder how the Orange Yam will respond to this news.

By blaming HRC, of course.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:18:35am

re: #206 wheat-dogg

Well, I wonder how the Orange Yam will respond to this news.

Maybe he’ll talk abut how we bombed Japan to free China.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:20:09am

re: #210 Belafon

Maybe he’ll talk abut how we bombed Japan to free China Taiwan.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:21:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:23:02am

re: #210 Belafon

Maybe he’ll talk abut how we bombed Japan to free China.

Or about how Henry Ford published The Protocols of the Elders of Zion… (upon Steve Bannon’s advice)

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:24:03am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:25:08am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:27:14am
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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:29:24am

re: #86 wheat-dogg

I actually remember this stuff from ground school from 35 years ago.

I got my aerodynamics lessons flying model rockets competitively. The best part, our main educator for two central Ohio rocket clubs was the head of the aerodynamics/aeronautics department at Ohio State. He had us building the best rockets and boost-gliders in the US.

Even though I wanted to be an artist and went to art college, I am still a lover of mechanical arts and Dr. Gerald Gregorek gave me one hell of an education for all things flying. Several of the guys I flew rockets with went on to some pretty dang big careers in the sciences. One of my best buds back then ended up a major player at Boeing.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:30:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:31:54am

re: #218 lawhawk

Obamacare had 100 Senate hearings and 161 amendments from Republicans.

Trumpcare has had 0 Senate hearings and 0 amendments from Democrats.

Remember Romney saying at the debates that the big difference between his MA health care bill and ACA was that the former was not “rammed down our throats without bipartisan support”?

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:32:27am

re: #133 Decatur Deb

Black was the old orange.

Orange will never be as good as the old black.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:35:05am

re: #220 MsJ

Orange will never be as good as the old black.

And he will never be as young.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:36:24am

re: #221 Decatur Deb

And he will never be as young.

Or as fit (in every sense of that word).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:36:32am

re: #221 Decatur Deb

And he will never be as young.

or as eloquent or well educated…

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:39:35am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

or as eloquent or well educated…

or respected.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:39:38am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

or as eloquent or well educated…

But it’s nice seeing them both working to raze the Republican Party.

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:39:38am

re: #215 Birth Control Works

Good article. I remain surprised that they didn’t hold another Brexit referendum that lays down specifics to what it means to the UK to leave the EU. Specifics and costs, as well as the number of people required to vote for it to be valid and the number required to say they will actually leave the EU.

What the UK is doing is shooting itself in the foot over a non-binding vote where the proponents immediately said all the BS they said up to the original vote was just that, BS.

To say that is shocking is an understatement of epic proportions. Yes Boris Johnson remains popular.

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:39:47am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

Yeah how dare those gay couples have a loving home. Somehow doubt Abbott would accept a gay owned adoption agency refusing to let Christians adopt.

I have a very simple question. Why are modern fundamentalist religious types so hateful?

I’m not religious, but having been Catholic schooled for 12 years I did learn some of the fundamentals of the Bible and learned of the works of the saints, etc. and I don’t remember this level of hatred for humans that someone like Texas Fundies seem to have.

It almost seems like it is a cult that has more about being seen as better than everyone else than it has to do with the teachings of this guy that walked the earth and taught love…for everyone.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:41:54am

re: #52 Kragar

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dude looks like Rasputin

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:42:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:42:10am

re: #226 MsJ

Good article. I remain surprised that they didn’t hold another Brexit referendum that lays down specifics to what it means to the UK to leave the EU. Specifics and costs, as well as the number of people required to vote for it to be valid and the number required to say they will actually leave the EU.

What the UK is doing is shooting itself in the foot over a non-binding vote where the proponents immediately said all the BS they said up to the original vote was just that, BS.

To say that is shocking is an understatement of epic proportions. Yes Boris Johnson remains popular.

Like with the Scottish Independence Referendum, which also left too many open questions, but was turned down at the time because it would have meant leaving the EU and having to apply for membership.

Brexit, like the Trump campaign, was just a blank canvas on which people could project their wishes of what they wanted the UK to look like; free of foreigners, with “UK first” trade deals, etc…

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:44:27am

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

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Hipster rat needs it for an art installation.

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:46:26am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Like with the Scottish Independence Referendum, which also left too many open questions, but was turned down at the time because it would have meant leaving the EU and having to apply for membership.

Brexit, like the Trump campaign, was just a blank canvas on which people could project their wishes of what they wanted the UK to look like; free of foreigners, with “UK first” trade deals, etc…

Which, in all honesty, makes me very sad. There are people all over the world hurting over right-wing policies (austerity, austerity, austerity) and a full-blown propaganda machine supporting the people who hurt the most. I understand why people vote against their interests, and I understand why people voted for Trump. Desperation is an unpleasant bedfellow.

Alas, we have a dumbed-down population and a reality show government (notice that trump’s new attorney is a radio show host. which just adds to the fact that so many people surrounding trump are in that Hollywood arena in some fashion.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:46:40am

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:47:26am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The whole Julius Caesar blowup reminds me a bit of the Mohammed Cartoon kerfuffle of several years back: the people who were behind both are aware of the nuances, that in one case, the governments in Western Democracies do not dictate or restrict the content of newspapers, or that a stage play can take liberties with the setting to make it more relevant, but it both cases, the perpetrators pushed the outrage angle in order to promote a particular agenda.

And in both cases, they knew that their target audiences were too undereducated to realize those distinctions.

It’s damn art. Art drives religious people nuts. They have no idea that art is supposed to make people think.

Oh, I get it. They don’t want to think, they want to be told what to do.

They live hollow lives.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:47:28am

re: #232 MsJ

Which, in all honesty, makes me very sad. There are people all over the world hurting over right-wing policies (austerity, austerity, austerity) and a full-blown propaganda machine supporting the people who hurt the most. I understand why people vote against their interests, and I understand why people voted for Trump. Desperation is an unpleasant bedfellow.

Alas, we have a dumbed-down population and a reality show government (notice that trump’s new attorney is a radio show host. which just adds to the fact that so many people surrounding trump are in that Hollywood arena in some fashion.

People voting with their middle finger…

And regretting it only when they see that it is too late.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:51:27am

This popped up whilst poking around steemit.com jsut now, and it seems appropriate for the discussion here.

“Whoever shuts their ears to the cry of the poor will also cry out and not be answered.”
— Proverbs 21:13

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:52:16am

re: #144 Decatur Deb

I could put up with everything the GOP has planned for our nation and the world, but when they turn to fat shaming, it’s just a step too far.

WTF

And Steve Bannon??? Such a lovely man.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:53:56am

re: #238 ObserverArt

And Steve Bannon??? Such a lovely man.

not a superfluous pound on his figure anywhere

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:53:59am

re: #231 Decatur Deb

Hipster rat needs it for an art installation.

Speaking of all things “hipster”, I found replacement parts for my antique bike! A website called retrocyklo dot cz had the parts I needed. I placed my order and I should be ready to ride by the weekend!

An oldie but a goodie. I got it when I was living in Berlin.

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:55:04am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

gators

Had to be. I’ve never seen any fish make that kind of “splash” ever. That had weight and strength behind it.

Edit to add…

re: #159 Dave In Austin

Nope……

Manatees…..

Whut?!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:58:54am

re: #241 ObserverArt

Had to be. I’ve never seen any fish make that kind of “splash” ever. That had weight and strength behind it.

others said manatees

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 7:59:25am

re: #240 Dr Lizardo

Speaking of all things “hipster”, I found replacement parts for my antique bike! A website called retrocyklo dot cz had the parts I needed. I placed my order and I should be ready to ride by the weekend!

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An oldie but a goodie. I got it when I was living in Berlin.

Fixie-upper.

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:02:04am

re: #241 ObserverArt

Had to be. I’ve never seen any fish make that kind of “splash” ever. That had weight and strength behind it.

They were saying manatees but I have never seen a manatee do anything like that. I have seen flying fish do that, but nothing broke the surface. I, too, think alligator.

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:02:37am

re: #182 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. The storms last night cleared out the humidity, and one can only hope that the coming storm of indictments (which aren’t likely to happen before next year in any event) will sweep out the GOP and their cabal of craven cronies.

The damage they’re doing is already taking a toll on people, and the need now is to limit the damage. The special election in GA-6 is today, and Ossoff v. Handel is the headline event, but there’s lots more to be done ahead of next year.

There’s the GOP still trying to push tax cuts for the rich as a form of health care reform (they cut health care coverage for millions, boost the uninsured rate beyond the pre-Obamacare days, and call it a day after rich folks get massive tax cuts) and they’re separately pursuing tax reform, which is yet another scheme to reduce the burden on the rich and shift all the burdens to everyone else.

Yet, the GOP can’t escape the gravity of the Russia-Trump mess, and it’s finally starting to penetrate the GOP derp.

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This is key; if the GOP rank and file realize that Trump’s running for the other side - the Russians, then the GOP will have to engage in some serious pretzel logic avoiding the shit storm of their own creation by aligning with a guy who was so thoroughly compromised from before he even entered the race that it shows just how debased the GOP is as a party. They continue enabling Trump at every opportunity, and there’s no way they have clean hands in all this - that goes double for McConnell and Ryan.

A lot of us have been saying all of this is going to take time. It has to bake. As it has been pointed out it took two years plus for Watergate to bring down Nixon. And that was with a Democratic led Congress.

I’m sort of surprised it is moving at this pace. Maybe the ‘net figures in.

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:04:37am

re: #187 Decatur Deb

For a portion of the population, being a dick is the only reward in life. You can find them even on the elementary school playgrounds.

And some make it to The White House and in Congress as Speaker of the House and Senate Leader.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:07:00am

re: #243 Decatur Deb

Fixie-upper.

I already fixed a lot of it already - the coaster brake and the lights, for example. The rest is pretty much foolproof. All I needed was a brake pad for the front spoon brake, and here in the Czech Republic, they are damned hard to find. Thankfully, that website I mentioned had them in stock. I also ordered some new handgrips. Other than that, it’s good to go.

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:07:30am

re: #181 Birth Control Works

so stealing this.

I hereby place the expression “PC basically boils down to not being a dick” in the public domain, as-is, no warranty, do not inhale etc. etc. etc.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:08:03am

WAIT WHUT

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:09:10am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

Cognitive dissonance. Lumpy haz it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:09:23am

re: #9 Kragar

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Dave In Austin  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:09:38am

re: #242 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

others said manatees

Manatees…. St. Johns River in FL.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:09:52am

re: #246 ObserverArt

And some make it to The White House and in Congress as Speaker of the House and Senate Leader.

I do wonder (as a teacher) what Ryan and McConnell were like as kids. I already know something about Little Donnie. Trump would have been the class goof-off, coasting through on his family’s money and a natural gift for conning people. But I can’t get a reading on Ryan and McConnell.

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:10:20am

re: #214 Birth Control Works

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Kushner and Soros???

Maybe the Trump supporters will want Trump impeached just for that.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:10:30am

re: #227 ObserverArt

I have a very simple question. Why are modern fundamentalist religious types so hateful?

I’m not religious, but having been Catholic schooled for 12 years I did learn some of the fundamentals of the Bible and learned of the works of the saints, etc. and I don’t remember this level of hatred for humans that someone like Texas Fundies seem to have.

It almost seems like it is a cult that has more about being seen as better than everyone else than it has to do with the teachings of this guy that walked the earth and taught love…for everyone.

It has to do with control. Whites used Christianity in the US to maintain control. They’ve used it to justify slavery, segregation, subjugation of women, control of gays. But they could be nice about it because all of these people knew their place. Well, we’re reaching a point where these people no longer want to be in their place, they want to be at the table. And so whites are freaking out and threatening those who aren’t like them.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:10:58am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

WAIT WHUT

So, birtherism was a sham.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:12:24am

re: #256 Belafon

So, birtherism was a sham.

Wasn’t Hannity one of those supporting the notion that Obama was not a natural-born citizen?

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:12:26am

re: #245 ObserverArt

We’re in the opening phases of what’s effectively discovery - identifying witnesses, gathering evidence, talking to witnesses, etc., and the portions that seem to be furthest along in the process relate to Flynn, and Manafort is right behind him. If Flynn has flipped and cooperating with the authorities as some reports seem to indicate, that’s truly bad news for Trump and everyone else in his inner circle - including Pence and Trump.

The Flynn firing was bizarre in its own right for how it was done, who claimed to know what, etc., but everything this admin does is bizarre - up to and including the lies about easily verifiable stuff. Lies, omissions, projecting lies/failures on to others, is all in a day’s work for the Trump admin.

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:14:04am

re: #253 wheat-dogg

I do wonder (as a teacher) what Ryan and McConnell were like as kids. I already know something about Little Donnie. Trump would have been the class goof-off, coasting through on his family’s money and a natural gift for conning people. But I can’t get a reading on Ryan and McConnell.

Lying sociopaths, both of them. You can’t tell people it’s a good deal to not have access to or guarantees of healthcare while telling them it’s a good deal for them (lying) and smiling while doing so (sociopathy).

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(Bert the Turtle)  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:16:05am

re: #242 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Manatees. I followed the link to facebook and the guy was getting some shit for being a dick(non-PC). The vid threw me for a loop seeing as Dave in Austin lives on/near Lake Travis.

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:16:56am

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

Cognitive dissonance. Lumpy haz it.

His TV program is now officially brain dead. It needs to be turned off and left to die.

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makeitstop  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:17:04am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

Hannity compares Russia investigation to Obama “birtherism” conspiracy theory

Ingoring, of course, that he bought all the way the fuck in on that conspiracy theory.

Oh, Lumpy. Self-awareness ain’t exactly your specialty, is it?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:17:57am

The effects of Evangelical Christian homeschooling.
Clip 1 is from “Vote Jesus: The Chronicles of Ken Stevenson.”
Clip 2 is from “Jesus Camp.”

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:19:23am

re: #259 MsJ

Lying sociopaths, both of them. You can’t tell people it’s a good deal to not have access to or guarantees of healthcare while telling them it’s a good deal for them (lying) and smiling while doing so (sociopathy).

Very few of my students have gone into politics. One guy, who is a bilingual immigration lawyer now, ran for a judge’s seat in Louisville, KY, but was unsuccessful. If any others have run for office, it might have been only local races and I didn’t hear about them.

The students I taught my first year teaching are now approaching 50. Some may be past that now. I try not to think about that overly much.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:22:43am

re: #263 Dr. Matt

That girl looks about 10, and she didn’t know her times tables. Sheesh! My godless public school drummed that into our heads by the 3rd grade.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:24:18am

re: #265 wheat-dogg

That girl looks about 10, and she didn’t know her times tables. Sheesh! My godless public school drummed that into our heads by the 3rd grade.

I really, really, REALLY hope that she and her fucked up home-schooled family are just outliers.

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:24:25am

re: #261 ObserverArt

His TV program is now officially brain dead. It needs to be turned off and left to die.

Now?

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:24:44am

Great, just when you thought 2017 couldn’t possibly suck an order magnitude worse…
Yellowstone supervolcano hit by a swarm of earthquakes
Please, prayers/positive vibes/positive thoughts/whatever works that this isn’t a precursor to a VEI-8 kabloie.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:26:29am

About the Ossoff campaign:

According to Ossoff’s campaign spokeswoman, Sacha Haworth, they’ve had more than 11,000 volunteers and knocked on half a million doors. If you include all the calls and texts they’ve sent, the campaign says they’ve made one million voter contacts. USA TODAY found that at least one potential voter had been contacted at least 15 times, without committing to Ossoff.

For those of you ready to throw in the towel if he doesn’t win, I ask you this: What else would you do?

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:27:25am

re: #264 wheat-dogg

Very few of my students have gone into politics. One guy, who is a bilingual immigration lawyer now, ran for a judge’s seat in Louisville, KY, but was unsuccessful. If any others have run for office, it might have been only local races and I didn’t hear about them.

The students I taught my first year teaching are now approaching 50. Some may be past that now. I try not to think about that overly much.

It takes a special kind of person to run for public office. Most are the kind of people I generally wouldn’t like. The one’s who are good people are generally so discouraged with the process (their entire being is sifted through by opponents to find anything the opponent can twist into a negative, horrible things said about them or their families, etc., etc., etc.) that they walk away after one try at public service. Which, unfortunately, often leaves less than stellar options for those who do run for public office.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:28:06am

re: #269 Belafon

For those of you ready to throw in the towel if he doesn’t win, I ask you this: What else would you do?

Ask Russia to hack the election. :\

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:28:14am

re: #266 Dr. Matt

I really, really, REALLY hope that she and her fucked up home-schooled family are just outliers.

Judging from the homemade frocks the girls wore, I’m guessing this is a Quiverfull family, or something similar. They’re as far away from modernity as you can get without declaring yourself Amish. Doubtless they use some Bible-based homeschooling system that bases every lesson off teh Bibble, as we know, there are no times tables in teh Bibble.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:29:00am

re: #272 wheat-dogg

Judging from the homemade frocks the girls wore, I’m guessing this is a Quiverfull family, or something similar. They’re as far away from modernity as you can get without declaring yourself Amish. Doubtless they use some Bible-based homeschooling system that based every lesson off teh Bibble, as we know, there are no times tables in teh Bibble.

But the mother is wearing a T shirt. STONE THE WANTON SLUT!!!!

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:29:56am

re: #268 Teukka

Great, just when you thought 2017 couldn’t possibly suck an order magnitude worse…
Yellowstone supervolcano hit by a swarm of earthquakes
Please, prayers/positive vibes/positive thoughts/whatever works that this isn’t a precursor to a VEI-8 kabloie.

Well, if that is the case, most of us in the US will no longer have to worry about Trump (or anything else) and likely a good part of the world won’t any longer, either. Global warming will go away as we go into a major cooling period due to stuff in the atmosphere blocking out most of the sun for, oh, a couple of years.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:30:53am

re: #262 makeitstop

Ingoring, of course, that he bought all the way the fuck in on that conspiracy theory.

Oh, Lumpy. Self-awareness ain’t exactly your specialty, is it?

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:31:02am

re: #273 The Vicious Babushka

But the mother is wearing a T shirt. STONE THE WANTON SLUT!!!!

She’s depriving herself a proper frock so the girls can attract a godly husband with theirs.

I am not being sarcastic.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:31:54am

re: #268 Teukka

Great, just when you thought 2017 couldn’t possibly suck an order magnitude worse…
Yellowstone supervolcano hit by a swarm of earthquakes
Please, prayers/positive vibes/positive thoughts/whatever works that this isn’t a precursor to a VEI-8 kabloie.

Could this be a consequence of so much of the earth’s water changing position, changing the stresses on the planet, and thereby changing it’s shape?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:32:07am

re: #268 Teukka

Great, just when you thought 2017 couldn’t possibly suck an order magnitude worse…
Yellowstone supervolcano hit by a swarm of earthquakes
Please, prayers/positive vibes/positive thoughts/whatever works that this isn’t a precursor to a VEI-8 kabloie.

there has been a surge of volcanic activity in the Eifel, just about 100 miles NW of where I live near the French-Belgian border

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calochortus  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:33:07am

re: #227 ObserverArt

I have a very simple question. Why are modern fundamentalist religious types so hateful?

I’m not religious, but having been Catholic schooled for 12 years I did learn some of the fundamentals of the Bible and learned of the works of the saints, etc. and I don’t remember this level of hatred for humans that someone like Texas Fundies seem to have.

It almost seems like it is a cult that has more about being seen as better than everyone else than it has to do with the teachings of this guy that walked the earth and taught love…for everyone.

If you have a couple weeks to spare, I’d recommend Robert Sapolsky’s latest book, Behave (675 pages without the appendices.) The second half has some really interesting observations about “Us” and “Them” as perceived by our brains. It’s far more complex than just this, but we are all very, very adept at unconsciously reinforcing our biases (and then rationalizing them.)

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:33:10am

re: #278 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

there has been a surge of volcanic activity in the Eifel, just about 100 miles NW of where I live near the French-Belgian border

Is this (historically) normal or a completely new phenomena?

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:35:12am

re: #277 Belafon

Could this be a consequence of so much of the earth’s water changing position, changing the stresses on the planet, and thereby changing it’s shape?

Thankfully, no.

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:35:39am

re: #278 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

there has been a surge of volcanic activity in the Eifel, just about 100 miles NW of where I live near the French-Belgian border

Wow.

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:35:39am

re: #265 wheat-dogg

That girl looks about 10, and she didn’t know her times tables. Sheesh! My godless public school drummed that into our heads by the 3rd grade.

I had to stop watching once she couldn’t get 5 x 5. 12 x 12 was bad enough…but 5 x 5=20. You can add that up…no need to multiply.

But they were dressed so nice and proper and smiled and all.

My god, what are they doing to these kids???

Again, 12 years of Catholic school. Can’t get much more religious than that. However, the nuns would have hung their heads in shame if a third grader couldn’t answer 5 times 5.

And you know what. I do believe the nuns would have been more upset that one of their students couldn’t answer 5 times 5 than had they failed at remembering some Bible story. Why? Because they knew we had to live in the world and they wanted us to be successful at it. They knew the difference between spiritual and reality.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:38:06am

re: #278 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

there has been a surge of volcanic activity in the Eifel, just about 100 miles NW of where I live near the French-Belgian border

Really? That I hadn’t heard about.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:38:32am

re: #280 MsJ

Is this (historically) normal or a completely new phenomena?

It has not been volcanically active for at least 10K years…

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:38:32am

re: #267 MsJ

Now?

Well, I’ve never watched Hannity on TV…so he’s been dead to me all along. I was just thinking about how it seems that he is really struggling to keep all of his craziness straight. I think the pressure is on and Fox as we knew it may be dying a slow death.

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:39:18am

re: #283 ObserverArt

I had to stop watching once she couldn’t get 5 x 5. 12 x 12 was bad enough…but 5 x 5=20. You can add that up…no need to multiply.

But they were dressed so nice and proper and smiled and all.

My god, what are they doing to these kids???

Again, 12 years of Catholic school. Can’t get much more religious than that. However, the nuns would have hung their heads in shame if a third grader couldn’t answer 5 times 5.

And you know what. I do believe the nuns would have been more upset that one of their students couldn’t answer 5 times 5 than had they failed at remembering some Bible story. Why? Because they knew we had to live in the world and they wanted us to be successful at it. They knew the difference between spiritual and reality.

6 years in a Catholic school here, also taught by nuns. Yeah, times table is pretty much etched into my spine… Were yours Notre Dame?

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:40:09am

re: #283 ObserverArt

Well, the nuns wanted you to get a job, probably. I’m not sure these godly parents have thought that far ahead. Of course, they don’t expect the girls to go out to work, but even housewives need to know math, so they don’t get cheated at the market.

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:40:48am

re: #269 Belafon

About the Ossoff campaign:

For those of you ready to throw in the towel if he doesn’t win, I ask you this: What else would you do?

Is the better question; what else could you do?

Not that yours is a bad question. I wonder how many voters there are in the district. It almost seems like every single voter had been contacted.

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:41:51am

re: #271 Dr. Matt

Ask Russia to hack the election. :\

Hmmm. I wonder if that has been tried? Ever.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:42:28am

re: #255 Belafon

It has to do with control. Whites used Christianity in the US to maintain control. They’ve used it to justify slavery, segregation, subjugation of women, control of gays. But they could be nice about it because all of these people knew their place. Well, we’re reaching a point where these people no longer want to be in their place, they want to be at the table. And so whites are freaking out and threatening those who aren’t like them.

They are insecure people, being in control makes them feel powerful.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:42:41am

re: #257 wheat-dogg

Wasn’t Hannity one of those supporting the notion that Obama was not a natural-born citizen?

when it suits him

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:42:51am

re: #290 ObserverArt

Hmmm. I wonder if that has been tried? Ever.

they already have a Georgia

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:43:53am

re: #265 wheat-dogg

That girl looks about 10, and she didn’t know her times tables. Sheesh! My godless public school drummed that into our heads by the 3rd grade.

Sister Bernadette Marie —scared the shit out of me

Still can’t do my 12’s without thinking about it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:44:00am

re: #292 Birth Control Works

Wasn’t Hannity one of those supporting the notion that Obama was not a natural-born citizen?

when it suits him

Like Rick Perry comparing Creationists to Galileo…

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calochortus  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:44:54am

re: #283 ObserverArt

I had to stop watching once she couldn’t get 5 x 5. 12 x 12 was bad enough…but 5 x 5=20 25. You can add that up…no need to multiply.

FIFY

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:45:16am

...

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:45:16am

re: #268 Teukka

Great, just when you thought 2017 couldn’t possibly suck an order magnitude worse…
Yellowstone supervolcano hit by a swarm of earthquakes
Please, prayers/positive vibes/positive thoughts/whatever works that this isn’t a precursor to a VEI-8 kabloie.

Well, it’s been nice chatting with you-all over the years.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:45:47am

re: #296 calochortus

FIFY

The girl said 20 in the video. Observer Art was quoting her.

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calochortus  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:46:37am

re: #299 wheat-dogg

The girl said 20 in the video. cc was quoting her.

Ah, hadn’t listened to it. Glad she has a firm grasp of all that stuff.

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:47:11am

re: #298 Birth Control Works

Well, it’s been nice chatting with you-all over the years.

Well, unless you’re right smack up close and personal to the Yellowstone caldera neighborhood, you will make it.
However, climate change will not take the form of warming for quite some time after such an event.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:47:23am

re: #279 calochortus

If you have a couple weeks to spare, I’d recommend Robert Sapolsky’s latest book, Behave (675 pages without the appendices.) The second half has some really interesting observations about “Us” and “Them” as perceived by our brains. It’s far more complex than just this, but we are all very, very adept at unconsciously reinforcing our biases (and then rationalizing them.)

on Audible as well.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:48:27am

re: #283 ObserverArt

I had to stop watching once she couldn’t get 5 x 5. 12 x 12 was bad enough…but 5 x 5=20. You can add that up…no need to multiply.

But they were dressed so nice and proper and smiled and all.

My god, what are they doing to these kids???

Again, 12 years of Catholic school. Can’t get much more religious than that. However, the nuns would have hung their heads in shame if a third grader couldn’t answer 5 times 5.

And you know what. I do believe the nuns would have been more upset that one of their students couldn’t answer 5 times 5 than had they failed at remembering some Bible story. Why? Because they knew we had to live in the world and they wanted us to be successful at it. They knew the difference between spiritual and reality.

Yeah, 2’s, 5’s and 10’s are pretty easy. No excuse for not knowing.

I’m particularly good at 3’s. :)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:49:07am

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:49:33am

re: #287 Teukka

6 years in a Catholic school here, also taught by nuns. Yeah, times table is pretty much etched into my spine… Were yours Notre Dame?

Sisters of St. Francis. Home based out of Joliet Illinois. Franciscan nuns.

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retired cynic  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:50:04am

re: #212 Birth Control Works

KITTY!!!!!

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It’s the FEETS!

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:50:07am

re: #300 calochortus

Ah, hadn’t listened to it. Glad she has a firm grasp of all that stuff.

She missed 12 x 12 and 6 x 6 — had not a clue for either. And she obviously was guessing on 5 x 5.

But I bet she knows all the details about the Ark!

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:50:39am

re: #301 Teukka

Well, unless you’re right smack up close and personal to the Yellowstone caldera neighborhood, you will make it.
However, climate change will not take the form of warming for quite some time after such an event.

Unless there is a cloud of debris/smoke that covers half the continent and blots out all breatheable air … .

Did you read Krakatoa?

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:50:56am

re: #306 retired cynic

It’s the FEETS!

I know!!! so big.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:51:13am

re: #307 wheat-dogg

She missed 12 x 12 and 6 x 6 — had not a clue for either. And she obviously was guessing on 5 x 5.

But I bet she knows all the details about the Ark!

It’s good to know your cubits.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:51:45am

re: #303 Birth Control Works

Yeah, 2’s, 5’s and 10’s are pretty easy. No excuse for not knowing.

I’m particularly good at 3’s. :)

7s, 8s and 9s were the ones that gave me the most trouble. Even now I have to stop and think what 7 x 8 is.

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:52:02am

re: #296 calochortus

FIFY

Did you watch the video? The young girl answered 20 to 5 x 5. That is when I had to stop watching.

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calochortus  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:52:07am

re: #307 wheat-dogg

She missed 12 x 12 and 6 x 6 — had not a clue for either. And she obviously was guessing on 5 x 5.

But I bet she knows all the details about the Ark!

Well, there’s the problem. No one had to multiply cubits now did they????

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:53:10am

re: #311 wheat-dogg

7s, 8s and 9s were the ones that gave me the most trouble. Even now I have to stop and think what 7 x 8 is.

42

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:54:01am

re: #313 calochortus

Well, there’s the problem. No one had to multiply cubits now did they????

everything 2x2 and then threescore and ten…

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:54:24am

re: #313 calochortus

Well, there’s the problem. No one had to multiply cubits now did they????

Noah got all his directions straight from God, so all he had to do was count.

Divine inspiration would have been necessary, since inland sheep herders are not especially good shipwrights, typically.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:55:17am

re: #314 Birth Control Works

42

No, that’s the answer to life, the universe and everything.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:55:20am

re: #308 Birth Control Works

Unless there is a cloud of debris/smoke that covers half the continent and blots out all breatheable air … .

Did you read Krakatoa?

Loved that book.

The lone spider flying on its web that repopulated the island.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:56:13am

re: #317 wheat-dogg

No, that’s the answer to life, the universe and everything.

ah!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:56:28am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:56:42am

re: #317 wheat-dogg

No, that’s the answer to life, the universe and everything.

then the answer is: Traffic.

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:57:38am

re: #308 Birth Control Works

Unless there is a cloud of debris/smoke that covers half the continent and blots out all breatheable air … .

Did you read Krakatoa?

Meh. Try Toba catastrophe theory. According to it, a VEI-8 eruption came very close to wiping our species out 75,000 years ago.

Krakatoa was a “mere” VEI-6. Last VEI-7 we had was in 1816, a.k.a. “Year without a summer”. And even a VEI-4 can pollute, see 1783 Laki eruption, it reeked so bad Franklin wrote about it.

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calochortus  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:57:56am

The triumph of hopeful projection over reality. Workers in Elkhart, IN support Trump because despite plentiful manufacturing jobs (since before the elections,) they don’t pay well and working conditions are poor. Somehow they think Trump cares. Article here

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:58:07am

Thinking back about school and you know what terrified me the most?

Forgetting my locker combination numbers for the lock.

I swear, I worried about that all the way through freaking college and we didn’t even have lockers. Sometime when awaking in the morning my first thought would be “damn, what is my locker combination?” And then I’d realize I passed that by years ago.

Trauma…it sticks with you.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:58:24am

re: #322 Teukka

Meh. Try Toba catastrophe theory. According to it, a VEI-8 eruption came very close to wipe our species out 75,000 years ago.

Krakatoa was a “mere” VEI-6. Last VEI-7 we had was in 1816, a.k.a. “Year without a summer”. And even a VEI-4 can pollute, see 1783 Laki eruption, it reeked so bad Frankling wrote about it.

Why do you know so much about earthquakes?

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:59:16am

re: #314 Birth Control Works

42

re: #317 wheat-dogg

No, that’s the answer to life, the universe and everything.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:59:35am

re: #324 ObserverArt

Thinking back about school and you know what terrified me the most?

Forgetting my locker combination numbers for the lock.

I swear, I worried about that all the way through freaking college and we didn’t even have lockers. Sometime when awaking in the morning my first thought would be “damn, what is my locker combination?” And then I’d realize I passed that by years ago.

Trauma…it sticks with you.

You could have written it down and kept it in your wallet.

Or told traded combos with your best friends so you could use each other’s lockers and depeded on her/him when you forgot (like i did)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 8:59:49am

re: #324 ObserverArt

Thinking back about school and you know what terrified me the most?

Forgetting my locker combination numbers for the lock.

I swear, I worried about that all the way through freaking college and we didn’t even have lockers. Sometime when awaking in the morning my first thought would be “damn, what is my locker combination?” And then I’d realize I passed that by years ago.

Trauma…it sticks with you.

I regularly have dreams in which I am enrolled in a class, have never looked at the book or visited the classroom, do not even know where the classroom is…and the exam is tomorrow.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:00:04am

re: #326 FormerDirtDart

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I don’t follow sports —what is his name —so I’ll know the answer in the future.

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:00:05am

re: #325 Birth Control Works

Why do you know so much about earthquakes?

Have strong tendencies towards photographic memory. I read or watch it, I can easily remember most of it.

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:00:13am

re: #286 ObserverArt

Well, I’ve never watched Hannity on TV…so he’s been dead to me all along. I was just thinking about how it seems that he is really struggling to keep all of his craziness straight. I think the pressure is on and Fox as we knew it may be dying a slow death.

Let us all bow our heads and hope and pray. ;-)

Fox gears itself towards the older folks (like me) and we are a dying demographic (literally). They can (and are) looking to replace that with the hard core variables on the right (alt-right, neonazis, religious extremists) which is a key demo…but not for the majority of Americans.

I hope that what is happening to Megyn Kelly is an omen of what is to come. Average American’s do not want anything to do with that side of the right. It seems Kelly is doing little more with her stint at NBC than to continue to push right-wing stuff, but much less forcefully than she did at her time at Fox. But if it walks and talks like a winger, it likely is one. I continue to hope that her career outside of Fox tanks like a boulder in a lake.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:00:23am

re: #324 ObserverArt

Thinking back about school and you know what terrified me the most?

Forgetting my locker combination numbers for the lock.

I swear, I worried about that all the way through freaking college and we didn’t even have lockers. Sometime when awaking in the morning my first thought would be “damn, what is my locker combination?” And then I’d realize I passed that by years ago.

Trauma…it sticks with you.

All through high school I had the same lock: 18-36-18. Don’t ask for my gym locker combo, though.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:00:37am

re: #330 Teukka

Have strong tendencies towards photographic memory. I read or watch it, I can easily remember most of it.

so jealous.

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calochortus  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:00:55am

re: #328 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I regularly have dreams in which I am enrolled in a class, have never looked at the book or visited the classroom, do not even know where the classroom is…and the exam is tomorrow.

Don’t we all?

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Teukka  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:01:23am

re: #333 Birth Control Works

so jealous.

Don’t be. There are things I can’t forget and which drag me down.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:01:40am

re: #334 calochortus

Don’t we all?

No, I never dream of school.

If I remember my dreams at all, they usually involve colors.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:01:51am

re: #335 Teukka

Don’t be. There are things I can’t forget and which drag me down.

yeah, I get that.

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Interesting Times  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:02:06am

re: #269 Belafon

About the Ossoff campaign:

For those of you ready to throw in the towel if he doesn’t win, I ask you this: What else would you do?

Honestly, that opens up the worst-case scenario - too many US voters are TSTL. That, more than anything else, was the most horrifying realization for me after Nov 2016 - 62 million people thought Cheeto Benito worth voting for.

62.
MILLION.
People.

(and if some polls are to be believed, 96% percent of them would vote for him again)

I just can’t wrap my head around so much gullible, stupid, hateful, greedy, or all of the above.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:02:06am

re: #269 Belafon

About the Ossoff campaign:

For those of you ready to throw in the towel if he doesn’t win, I ask you this: What else would you do?

From the LGF complaints about begging emails, I’m fairly certain a million contacts in that district (c. 500,000 voters) could be counterproductive. The analysts who wrote The Victory Lab, for instance, have a very low opinion of repetitive calling, yet we are put to phone banking every campaign.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:02:22am

So, looking at the situation in the UK, it’s all manner of petty chaos. What a farce. The Tory/DUP agreement still hasn’t been inked and PM May is going in to the Queen’s Speech tomorrow - possibly - without a majority government.

At this rate, the UK’s new national anthem should just be “Yakety Sax”.

-Yakety Sax- Music

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:02:39am

re: #327 Birth Control Works

You could have written it down and kept it in your wallet.

Or told traded combos with your best friends so you could use each other’s lockers and depeded on her/him when you forgot (like i did)

I think it was a self-discipline thing. And I don’t think it ever really affected me not opening my locker. It was that first thought in the morning mixed with the dread of having to go to school.

The mind can mess with you big time.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:03:11am

re: #334 calochortus

Don’t we all?

then again, being late to class never worried me.

I was on newspaper and yearbook. Advisor would always vouch for us.

And, I never really cared anyway. Nothing in my future depended on my attendance record in high school.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:04:11am

re: #326 FormerDirtDart

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Jackie Robinson!

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calochortus  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:04:24am

re: #336 Birth Control Works

No, I never dream of school.

If I remember my dreams at all, they usually involve colors.

I don’t remember many of my dreams, and they are virtually always boring, sometimes working their way up to mild anxiety (the aforementioned “haven’t been to class”, or maybe “time to leave and I can’t find my shoes.”) Colors sound like more fun.

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:04:53am

re: #329 Birth Control Works

I don’t follow sports —what is his name —so I’ll know the answer in the future.

His story is much bigger than sports. Jackie Robinson. His story was all about race and his people and their hope. I bet you know more about him than you are letting on.

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calochortus  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:05:21am

Anyhoo, time to do stuff before it gets hot around here.
BBL

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:06:00am
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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:06:20am

re: #308 Birth Control Works

Unless there is a cloud of debris/smoke that covers half the continent and blots out all breatheable air … .

Did you read Krakatoa?

The debris will spread throughout most of the midwest all the way to the great lakes on the right coast and a good part of the left coast - most of which feeds America. While it wouldn’t be an extinction level event, it would seriously impact most of the US, Canada and some of Mexico.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:08:20am

re: #348 MsJ

The debris will spread throughout most of the midwest all the way to the great lakes on the right coast and a good part of the left coast - most of which feeds America. While it wouldn’t be an extinction level event, it would seriously impact most of the US, Canada and some of Mexico.

and people connected to Trump will make a profit off of it…

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:08:45am

re: #339 Decatur Deb

From the LGF complaints about begging emails, I’m fairly certain a million contacts in that district (c. 500,000 voters) could be counterproductive. The analysts who wrote The Victory Lab, for instance, have a very low opinion of repetitive calling, yet we are put to phone banking every campaign.

I am a big believer in diminishing return. Beat people over the head with the same message over and over and they will plain reject you even if you had them at one point.

The internet and much commercial advertising need to figure that out. More is not always better.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:09:24am

re: #348 MsJ

The debris will spread throughout most of the midwest all the way to the great lakes on the right coast and a good part of the left coast - most of which feeds America. While it wouldn’t be an extinction level event, it would seriously impact most of the US, Canada and some of Mexico.

When Mt St Helens blew its top, the ash was carried eastward for hundreds of miles. I was living in Wyoming at the time, and collected enough ash off my car to fill a pill bottle.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:12:41am

It is time once again to enter my sleep period. Tomorrow I begin grading final exams! Woo hoo!

I leave for the USA in exactly seven days. Still got some packing to do, but the bulk of it is done.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:13:28am

If the person wasn’t such a bigoted pile of ooze, I’d find the irony amusing.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:14:45am

This speaks for itself.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:17:12am

re: #338 Interesting Times

Honestly, that opens up the worst-case scenario - too many US voters are TSTL. That, more than anything else, was the most horrifying realization for me after Nov 2016 - 62 million people thought Cheeto Benito worth voting for.

62.
MILLION.
People.

(and if some polls are to be believed, 96% percent of them would vote for him again)

I just can’t wrap my head around so much gullible, stupid, hateful, greedy, or all of the above.

the 96% has to be taken with the understanding that the number of people identifying as Republicans is down by like 20-30%. Republicans may support him, but that group is getting smaller right now.

But yes, TSTL does seem to apply. Those who vote against Ossoff will complain about losing their health care.

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Citizen K  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:18:11am

Late to the party here, but…

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:18:39am

re: #317 wheat-dogg

No, that’s the answer to life, the universe and everything.

Which is what you get when you multiply six by nine.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:19:38am

re: #329 Birth Control Works

I don’t follow sports —what is his name —so I’ll know the answer in the future.

That’s Jackie Robinson. And his number, 42, has been retired from all of US professional baseball since April 15, 1997. The 50th anniversary of him making his major league debut.
And, since 2009, on every April 15th, every player and umpire wears 42 as their uniform number with their names removed from their jerseys.

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sagehen  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:21:10am

re: #258 lawhawk

The Flynn firing was bizarre in its own right for how it was done, who claimed to know what, etc., but everything this admin does is bizarre - up to and including the lies about easily verifiable stuff. Lies, omissions, projecting lies/failures on to others, is all in a day’s work for the Trump admin.

Trump’s Razor:

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:22:38am

re: #359 sagehen

Trump’s Razor:

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I wonder if anyone out that up on Wikipedia yet.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:22:39am

I just got an email from someone wanting money for the Georgia Campaign. “DEVOSS JUST DONATED A BUNCH OF MONEY AND IS TRYING TO BUY THE ELECTION-give us $1.”

I know Devoss is richer than God—having married Amway.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:23:22am

re: #357 Belafon

Which is what you get when you multiply six by nine.

54?

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nines09  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:23:26am

OK, I needed a laugh…

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:23:31am

re: #360 MsJ

I wonder if anyone out that up on Wikipedia yet.

Nope, but it’s in the Urban Dictionary.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:25:51am

re: #345 ObserverArt

His story is much bigger than sports. Jackie Robinson. His story was all about race and his people and their hope. I bet you know more about him than you are letting on.

couldn’t connect the face with the name.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:27:37am

So, the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything is Jackie Robinson.

If I put that out on twitter would anyone understand?

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:28:45am

re: #331 MsJ

I have yet to see one example of a right winger tv talking head succeeding outside of their zone of comfort. Rush Limbaugh’s Late Night Tv show failed miserably once he had to contend with real actual people on a real basis. This pattern continues once the reality-denying ideology of our right wing meets reality and real people who do not subscribe to their built-in prejudices, anti-science, predetermined talking points, and economic orthodoxy.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:29:56am

re: #362 Birth Control Works

54?

If you read the sequels to Hitchhikers, Arthur and Ford are trapped on an old planet, and Arthur gets the idea that, since he’s part of the computer known as earth, that maybe his brain has the answer and he could come up with it by drawing out scrabble letters randomly. When he does this, it spells “What do you get when you multiply six by nine”.

BTW, 6*9 = 42 in base 13.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:31:21am

re: #366 Birth Control Works

So, the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything is Jackie Robinson.

If I put that out on twitter would anyone understand?

Someone would probably accuse you of trying to change Hitchhikers to be less white.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:32:02am

re: #353 A dark and stormy covfefe

If the person wasn’t such a bigoted pile of ooze, I’d find the irony amusing.

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At least she didn’t say, “I speak Canadian”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:32:32am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:34:46am

re: #368 Belafon

If you read the sequels to Hitchhikers, Arthur and Ford are trapped on an old planet, and Arthur gets the idea that, since he’s part of the computer known as earth, that maybe his brain has the answer and he could come up with it by drawing out scrabble letters randomly. When he does this, it spells “What do you get when you multiply six by nine”.

BTW, 6*9 = 42 in base 13.

Yeah, I forgot

I never understood base 13 or base 8. Failed those questions in math class consistently.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:35:44am
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sagehen  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:35:59am

re: #358 FormerDirtDart

That’s Jackie Robinson. And his number, 42, has been retired from all of US professional baseball since April 15, 1997. The 50th anniversary of him making his major league debut.
And, since 2009, on every April 15th, every player and umpire wears 42 as their uniform number with their names removed from their jerseys.

Also, the best rookie every year gets The Jackie Robinson award.

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sagehen  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:37:03am

re: #360 MsJ

I wonder if anyone out that up on Wikipedia yet.

Yes.
en.wikipedia.org

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:38:03am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:38:34am

re: #376 sagehen

Yes.
en.wikipedia.org

John Scalzi is a National Treasure.

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sagehen  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:38:43am

re: #366 Birth Control Works

So, the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything is Jackie Robinson.

If I put that out on twitter would anyone understand?

Yes.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:39:35am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:39:58am

This is the most disturbing thing you will see all day.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:41:15am

re: #381 The Vicious Babushka

This is the most disturbing thing you will see all day.

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thanks for that

/

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Dr. Matt  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:42:45am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:42:47am

bbl

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sagehen  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:47:50am

Firefly is now available on Hulu
hulu.com

With the episodes in the right (whedon-approved) order.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:50:47am

re: #377 Birth Control Works

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Weird profile for a Trumpkin. Religious damage, I suppose.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:54:21am

re: #373 Birth Control Works

Yeah, I forgot

I never understood base 13 or base 8. Failed those questions in math class consistently.

How about base six, which would allow you to count to 35 (base 10) on your fingers. Your right hand is the ones digit, and your left hand is the sixes digit. As you count through on your right hand, ever time you roll to six, add one more to the left, and start over on the right. Counting as you normally do, that’s base ten from 0-35. But, if you look a the fingers on each hand separately, you’re representing two base six digits.

Conversion from base six to ten would be to take the number of fingers up on the left hand times six and add the number of digits up on the right hand. To convert to base six, take the base 10 number and divide by six. The quotient goes on your left hand, and the remainder on the right.

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makeitstop  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:54:41am

And now for something rather frightening - Bob Dylan’s band playing ‘Freebird.’

Bob Dylan & His Band playing Freebird (Clip) - 06/09/16 - Greek Theatre, Berkeley, CA

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Interesting Times  Jun 20, 2017 • 9:56:15am

re: #354 Dr Lizardo

This speaks for itself.

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From the thread:

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b_sharp  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:00:12am

re: #41 MsJ

And flying in Canada costs 3x what it does in the US. Just saying.

It takes more effort to flap wings while wearing a heavy winter parka.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:00:22am

So I guess Trump referred to Ukraine as “The Ukraine” in today’s press conference with the Ukrainian President.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:01:56am

re: #391 Barefoot Grin

So I guess Trump referred to Ukraine as “The Ukraine” in today’s press conference with the Ukrainian President.

But he didn’t do his Assault HandshakeTM

I guess world leaders got wise to that and have counter moves.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:02:47am
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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:03:37am
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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:10:18am

re: #268 Teukka

Great, just when you thought 2017 couldn’t possibly suck an order magnitude worse…
Yellowstone supervolcano hit by a swarm of earthquakes
Please, prayers/positive vibes/positive thoughts/whatever works that this isn’t a precursor to a VEI-8 kabloie.

Sweet Meteor o’Death is pissed that it’ll be eclipsed by the Great One Below.

Seriously though, Yellowstone has gone through a couple of swarm cycles over the past 2 decades:

Earthquake swarms are common in Yellowstone and, on average, comprise about 50% of the total seismicity in the Yellowstone region.

Related figures can be viewed on the original post: quake.utah.edu

This is the highest number of earthquakes at Yellowstone within a single week in the past five years, but is fewer than weekly counts during similar earthquakes swarms in 2002, 2004, 2008 and 2010.

Past performance is no predictor of future behavior, and this is especially true of volcanoes, especially one that has the potential to wipe out life as we know it in North America (and beyond).

What’s far more likely than a VEI-8 quake at this point is another quake along the lines of the 1959 Hebgen Lake quake (~7.3). That could potentially significantly alter the magma chamber/plumbing and initiate an eruptive phase.

Smaller quakes allow subtle shifts in the magma chamber and reduce stresses on certain parts of the caldera (but add stresses elsewhere).

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freetoken  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:12:02am

Seems like May is competing with McConnell for the biggest car crash:

DUP: Government talks ‘have not proceeded in a way we would have expected’

[…]

It is thought that the DUP is asking for more investment for Northern Ireland as part of the price of its support, and the party also wants the retention of the triple lock guarantee on pensions and winter fuel allowances for older people.

Arlene Foster’s party backs Brexit, but wants to avoid any disruption to movements across the border with the Irish Republic.

[…]

How that can work is really a mystery. Ireland is part of the EU and will follow EU laws/rules for movements across boarders.

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stpaulbear  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:12:17am

re: #328 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I regularly have dreams in which I am enrolled in a class, have never looked at the book or visited the classroom, do not even know where the classroom is…and the exam is tomorrow.

What’s worst is when your current job gets dragged into those dreams too.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:13:28am

Mueller’s added a fluent Russian speaker who was a former Ginsberg aid to his group:

Prelogar, a former law clerk to Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan, is a Harvard Law School graduate and formerly worked in private practice at Hogan Lovells. Her involvement in the Russia probe has not previously been reported.

Prelogar also appears to be fluent in Russian. As an Emory College undergraduate, she majored in English and Russian. After graduating from Emory she was a Fulbright scholar in Russia. When she was a 1L at Harvard Law in 2006, she won an Overseas Press Club scholarship to study Russian media and censorship.

Even if his conclusion is Trump did nothing, there will be no stones left unturned.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:14:19am

re: #396 freetoken

Seems like May is competing with McConnell for the biggest car crash:

DUP: Government talks ‘have not proceeded in a way we would have expected’

It is thought that the DUP is asking for more investment for Northern Ireland as part of the price of its support, and the party also wants the retention of the triple lock guarantee on pensions and winter fuel allowances for older people.

Arlene Foster’s party backs Brexit, but wants to avoid any disruption to movements across the border with the Irish Republic.

[…]

How that can work is really a mystery. Ireland is part of the EU and will follow EU laws/rules for movements across borders.

And May is all about cutting pensions and government “welfare” like winter fuel allowances…let ‘em free in the name of the Free Market!

Burn your copy of Adam Smith if you get too cold.

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makeitstop  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:20:24am

Someone should be charged with cruelty to a Stratocaster for this.

Also - engraving on the neck is not the best idea.

No. Just no. HELL no.
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:21:47am
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jaunte  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:33:28am

You know who else enjoyed large mandatory portraits of himself?
…………………..

“…The Teton Republican Party launched a petition that asks the Jackson Town Council to pass a resolution requiring portraits of the president and vice president “to always hang in Teton County’s local government buildings.”
washingtonpost.com

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:35:03am

re: #402 jaunte

You know who else enjoyed large mandatory portraits of himself?
…………………..

I bet they’ll have trouble if a Democratic president starts demanding to be treated like a king.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:35:25am

re: #402 jaunte

It strikes me the best way to mourn poor Otto Warmbier is to resist autocratic regimes wherever they seize power, including here at home.

The best way to mourn OW is not to visit brutal, oppressive totalitarian countries where your rights are irrelevant.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:38:59am

re: #403 Belafon

I bet they’ll have trouble if a Democratic president starts demanding to be treated like a king.

They complained Obama was “acting like a King” even though he wasn’t.

Jon McNaughton hasn’t created any “art” since his “masterpieces” of Obama ripping the Constitution and random former Presidents making pleading gestures at the first Black POTUS. Does he have any “artworks” of Jesus anointing Trump or something similarly vomitous?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:39:08am

I just made a cup of Nespresso’s Cafe de Cuba.

Beyond delicious!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:40:03am
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jaunte  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:40:46am

re: #405 The Vicious Babushka

His business of dramatizing victimization is probably suffering in the Trump presidency.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:40:56am

re: #405 The Vicious Babushka

They complained Obama was “acting like a King” even though he wasn’t.

Jon McNaughton hasn’t created any “art” since his “masterpieces” of Obama ripping the Constitution and random former Presidents making pleading gestures at the first Black POTUS. Does he have any “artworks” of Jesus anointing Trump or something similarly vomitous?

Gosh, I wonder why he doesn’t do that with Trump? Hmmmm, I got a sneaking suspicion it has something to do with color…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:42:48am

re: #409 Joe Bacon 🌹

Gosh, I wonder why he doesn’t do that with Trump? Hmmmm, I got a sneaking suspicion it has something to do with color…

When he imagines that the black guy is a tyrant, then completely ignores an actual tyrant, the only other possibility is that he’s just brainwashed to hate modern people. Either way, he’s a fool.

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:42:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:43:21am

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

Here is the correct way to fly the Confederate flag

IMPORTANT HISTORICAL NOTE

The Confederate battle flag never flew above any state capitol during the Civil War: they would have flown the Stars and Bars.

The battle flag did not appear again until the 60’s…to let those uppity Negroes and Yankee agitators who was in charge there…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:43:40am

McNaughton doesn’t have any Trump “art” (yet) but Sharpwriter on Deviantart created a Trump poster. I am not going to link it here. It is predictably deplorable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:44:58am

re: #408 jaunte

His business of dramatizing victimization is probably suffering in the Trump presidency.

I already visualize one of Jesus offering to help Trump bear his cross of persecution…followed by two Corinthians in red leather.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:45:56am

re: #413 The Vicious Babushka

McNaughton doesn’t have any Trump “art” (yet) but Sharpwriter on Deviantart created a Trump poster. I am not going to link it here. It is predictably deplorable.

There is the one of Jesus holding the pen for DT to sign another executive order banning Muslims…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:46:12am

re: #413 The Vicious Babushka

McNaughton doesn’t have any Trump “art” (yet) but Sharpwriter on Deviantart created a Trump poster. I am not going to link it here. It is predictably deplorable.

I’ve seen them.

His works of “art” would fit right in with the Aryan trash that glorified Hitler!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:46:28am

re: #414 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I already visualize one of Jesus offering to help Trump bear his cross of persecution…followed by two Corinthians in red leather.

Rich Corinthian red leather?
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:46:29am

re: #415 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is the one of Jesus holding the pen for DT to sign another executive order banning Muslims…

I don’t think McNaughton made that one.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:46:53am

re: #404 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The best way to mourn OW is not to visit brutal, oppressive totalitarian countries where your rights are irrelevant.

“But they’re given to us by God!”

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:49:06am

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:50:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:51:46am

re: #421 lawhawk

JUST IN: Obama AG Eric Holder considering running against Trump in 2020

So we can just replace Benghazi with Fast and Furious; lather, rinse, repeat.

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I cannot.  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:55:28am

re: #422 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Any D they ran was going to be personally responsible for Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the cancellation of Firefly…so might as well troll the fuck out of them with a selection like that.

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Skip Intro  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:56:32am

re: #423 I cannot.

We trolled the fuck out of them with Hillary Clinton. How did that work out?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:57:51am

re: #423 I cannot.

Any D they ran was going to be personally responsible for Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the cancellation of Firefly…so might as well troll the fuck out of them with a selection like that.

Are there Conservative Firefly fans? I know that wingnut idiot Adam Baldwin is on the show, but it’s about rebels against an oppressive government, which I imagine no longer appeals to Conservatives, now that they got the oppressive government they wanted.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:58:50am

re: #425 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Are there Conservative Firefly fans? I know that wingnut idiot Adam Baldwin is on the show, but it’s about rebels against an oppressive government, which I imagine no longer appeals to Conservatives, now that they got the oppressive government they wanted.

It is about projecting their fantasies of True Patriots rebelling against Leftist Tyranny

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2017 • 10:58:58am

re: #425 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I don’t think they feel the need to be consistent.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:00:03am

re: #427 jaunte

I don’t think they feel the need to be consistent.

That is the job of TV shows and entertainment: giving people a surface onto which they can selectively project their dreams, fantasies and ideals.

And no coincidence that they voted for a TV celebrity.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:00:27am

THIS STUPID MOTHER FUCKER==>

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jaunte  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:00:54am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:01:06am

BTW The “Stupid MoFo” is Sirota, not Ossoff.

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Skip Intro  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:02:37am

BTW, did anybody know there’s also a special election in SC Fifth District today?

Didn’t think so.

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:02:51am

re: #423 I cannot.

Any D they ran was going to be personally responsible for Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the cancellation of Firefly…so might as well troll the fuck out of them with a selection like that.

And will automatically be The Most Liberal Candidate in the History of Candidates(tm)!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:03:06am
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freetoken  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:03:48am
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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:06:55am

re: #429 The Vicious Babushka

THIS STUPID MOTHER FUCKER==>

Sirota would hate us here, because we understand reality: #192. The two Democrats who ran for city council here in my city ran on being fiscally conservative.

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sagehen  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:07:34am

re: #425 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Are there Conservative Firefly fans? I know that wingnut idiot Adam Baldwin is on the show, but it’s about rebels against an oppressive government, which I imagine no longer appeals to Conservatives, now that they got the oppressive government they wanted.

Yes, of course.

The crew of the Serenity are Lost Causers.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:08:26am

re: #303 Birth Control Works

Yeah, 2’s, 5’s and 10’s are pretty easy. No excuse for not knowing.

I’m particularly good at 3’s. :)

1’s are my strong suit.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:09:30am

re: #307 wheat-dogg

She missed 12 x 12 and 6 x 6 — had not a clue for either. And she obviously was guessing on 5 x 5.

But I bet she knows all the details about the Ark!

Yeah, not knowing 12 X 12 is just gross.

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MsJ  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:10:29am

re: #439 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, not knowing 12 X 12 is just gross.

Ba dum bum!

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Dave In Austin  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:10:54am

“The Clean Coal Industry”… Shut up Sean….

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Dave In Austin  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:11:56am

Sean has the flies……

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:12:15am
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William Lewis  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:14:40am

re: #425 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Are there Conservative Firefly fans? I know that wingnut idiot Adam Baldwin is on the show, but it’s about rebels against an oppressive government, which I imagine no longer appeals to Conservatives, now that they got the oppressive government they wanted.

Of course there are. Firefly was nothing but “Outlaw Josey Wales” in Spaaaaaaaace! and was about confederate lost causers resisting the Union.

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allegro  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:16:08am

re: #436 Belafon

Sirota would hate us here, because we understand reality: #192. The two Democrats who ran for city council here in my city ran on being fiscally conservative.

Fiscal conservatism is funding all schools adequately for an educated citizenry and mandating living wages to enable them to get jobs to increase the tax base and decrease safety net needs. It is funding infrastructure and maintenance which is less costly than dealing with catastrophic failures. It is ensuring universal healthcare (see education and minimum wage).

Austerity and kicking cans down the road is not fiscally conservative.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:16:17am

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

Here is the correct way to fly the Confederate flag

While we’re burning things:

“A former Ku Klux Klan leader who pleaded guilty to his role in burning a cross in an African-American neighborhood in Dale County has now been convicted of a sex crime.”

dothaneagle.com

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Interesting Times  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:16:22am

:/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:17:06am

re: #445 allegro

Austerity and kicking cans down the road is not fiscally conservative.

But it sells a lot better to poor downtrodden whites who need someone to look down on…

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:17:45am

re: #447 Interesting Times

:/

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5) Because we can.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:18:54am

re: #447 Interesting Times

While I like some of Sarah’s warnings, sometimes it’s far simpler than “the Russians.” The GOP end game to maintain power. If they have to lie to their constituents to do it, then so be it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:20:56am

re: #450 Belafon

While I like some of Sarah’s warnings, sometimes it’s far simpler than “the Russians.” The GOP end game to maintain power. If they have to lie to their constituents to do it, then so be it.

The issue is that lying only goes so far. Even Conservatives will notice if they don’t have healthcare anymore. I try not to be paranoid, but it’s as if the Republicans don’t plan to need to win elections anymore.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:21:35am
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allegro  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:22:24am

re: #451 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The issue is that lying only goes so far. Even Conservatives will notice if they don’t have healthcare anymore. I try not to be paranoid, but it’s as if the Republicans don’t plan to need to win elections anymore.

Or maybe it’s seeing that if they can get even Trump elected that their base is just that stupid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:23:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:24:46am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:25:13am

re: #453 allegro

Or maybe it’s seeing that if they can get even Trump elected that their base is just that stupid.

Maybe they’re right. They can tell them that “Obamacare collapsed” when they strip their own voters of healthcare.

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Interesting Times  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:25:19am

re: #453 allegro

Or maybe it’s seeing that if they can get even Trump elected that their base is just that stupid.

^^^THIS.

(again, the most upsetting realization for me after Nov 2016. I knew there were lots of people that stupid and/or brainwashed in America, I just had no idea there were 62 million of them -_- )

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:26:08am

re: #451 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The issue is that lying only goes so far. Even Conservatives will notice if they don’t have healthcare anymore. I try not to be paranoid, but it’s as if the Republicans don’t plan to need to win elections anymore.

Why say that? They will continue to disenfranchise minorities, blame Obama and the D’s for any flaws in any legislation. and get the WWC vote. The patrician class in the South persuaded poor whites to vote for them because the other side might provide benefits to African-Americans. Too many people would rather see their “enemies” suffer than for their state in life to be improved if it means that others would benefit also.

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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:26:51am

re: #451 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The issue is that lying only goes so far. Even Conservatives will notice if they don’t have healthcare anymore. I try not to be paranoid, but it’s as if the Republicans don’t plan to need to win elections anymore.

I think it’s two things: they think they can keep rigging elections, and McConnell believes that if they get this passed, it will take at least a decade to fix it. For starters, even if they lose control of the Senate next year, they will still have enough power to stop Democrats from doing anything big.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:27:36am

re: #457 Interesting Times

^^^THIS.

(again, the most upsetting realization for me after Nov 2016. I knew there were lots of people that stupid and/or brainwashed in America, I just had no idea there were 62 million of them -_- )

A lot of money was spent for decades to make people hate Hillary Clinton. A lot of Trump voters foolishly thought they were voting for a lesser evil, because the wealthy people who now control their minds wanted them to believe that.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:28:46am

re: #460 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

A lot of money was spent for decades to make people hate Hillary Clinton. A lot of Trump voters foolishly thought they were voting for a lesser evil, because the wealthy people who now control their minds wanted them to believe that.

And not all of those wealthy people are GOP.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:31:10am

re: #459 Belafon

I think it’s two things: they think they can keep rigging elections, and McConnell believes that if they get this passed, it will take at least a decade to fix it. For starters, even if they lose control of the Senate next year, they will still have enough power to stop Democrats from doing anything big.

As long as the GOP holds the White House, the Democrats cannot get anything passed. There is no way D’s can have the 2/3 majority in both Houses to override a veto. All they can do is stop the worst legislation from passing, if they control at least one House.

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Kragar  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:31:16am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:32:06am

re: #452 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

If he’s actually employed a as a bodyguard, this could be a Worker’s Comp case (related- travel incident). He should take it to the Labor Dept.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:32:35am

re: #463 Kragar

Wait, Steve Bannon made a fat joke?

and that is a relatively flattering photo of him

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calochortus  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:32:48am

re: #464 Decatur Deb

If he’s actually employed a as a bodyguard, this could be a Worker’s Comp case (related- travel incident). He should take it to the Labor Dept.

What are the odds?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:33:10am

re: #464 Decatur Deb

If he’s actually employed a as a bodyguard, this could be a Worker’s Comp case (related- travel incident). He should take it to the Labor Dept.

He would do no such thing…that’s a gummint institution that should be abolished!!!

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:33:11am

Well, “Potential Tropical Cyclone No. 3” has become “Tropical Storm Cindy” in the past hour or so. The northern half of the Texas gulf coast east to New Orleans fall within the future storm effects track. Most models forecast landfall around Port Arthur (TX -
LA state line) early morning Thursday. Currently N.O and east into Florida panhandle being heavily saturated.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:33:55am

re: #466 calochortus

What are the odds?

Better than asking for his shop steward.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:35:06am

re: #463 Kragar

[Embedded content]

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BeachDem  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:35:09am

re: #432 Skip Intro

BTW, did anybody know there’s also a special election in SC Fifth District today?

Didn’t think so.

If not, they’ve been avoiding my posts about Archie’s campaign—he’s up against it, but has run a great race.

Wah. Nobody listens to me!!

And, according to 538:

Although the South Carolina race has received little national attention, it can still give us insight into how the Democrats’ chances of taking back the House in 2018 are shaping up. The Republican is expected to win — but by how much can tell us how sour the national environment is for Republicans.

fivethirtyeight.com

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Kragar  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:35:53am

re: #470 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:36:57am

re: #472 Kragar

Steve Bannon continues to look like the guy who turns off the cameras to medbay when the alien creature breaks out of quarantine]

He is the guy who stands to make millions by smuggling the dormant organism past quarantine…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:38:08am

re: #395 lawhawk

Past performance is no predictor of future behavior, and this is especially true of volcanoes, especially one that has the potential to wipe out life as we know it in North America (and beyond).

I really like Harry Turtledove, but I was underwhelmed with his post-yellowstone eruption series.

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ericblair  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:38:55am

re: #459 Belafon

I think it’s two things: they think they can keep rigging elections, and McConnell believes that if they get this passed, it will take at least a decade to fix it.

It is bizarre how determined they are to pass something so enormously unpopular. My guesses: McConnell is being directly or implicitly blackmailed (financial crimes). Most of the Republicans figure that the next election is still a long way off and trade short term gain for long term pain, plus they’re more worried about an even crazier primary challenger, and also figure Someone Else must have a great plan to get them reelected.

I think they’re really, really wrong, but if you have lived in the US all your life you haven’t seen a real political collapse. Yet.

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Kragar  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:38:58am

re: #473 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is the guy who stands to make millions by smuggling the dormant organism past quarantine…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:39:01am

re: #470 Backwoods_Sleuth

We had a guy like that at my last full-time job. The stench would hang in the air long after he had gone. The person in an adjacent cube would spray room deodorizer over the cube wall.

I saw him at a conference a year after he was let go, and the stench was gone.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:41:30am

Two requests today from Ossoff: One just received 30 minutes ago pleading for $250. Please let this be over soon. (Hopefully he will win)

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:42:11am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:42:28am

re: #475 ericblair

It is bizarre how determined they are to pass something so enormously unpopular. My guesses: McConnell is being directly or implicitly blackmailed (financial crimes). Most of the Republicans figure that the next election is still a long way off and trade short term gain for long term pain, plus they’re more worried about an even crazier primary challenger, and also figure Someone Else must have a great plan to get them reelected.

I think they’re really, really wrong, but if you have lived in the US all your life you haven’t seen a real political collapse. Yet.

They want to ram it through ASAP because Trump is decompensating very rapidly an they don’t know how long he can keep up the crazy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:43:39am

re: #479 FormerDirtDart

While I greatly appreciate the efforts of President Xi & China to help with North Korea, it has not worked out. At least I know China tried!

What a Chinkcuck! A REAL president woulda gone in there and kick slanty-eyed butt all the way to the Yalu river!!!

/

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wrenchwench  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:44:18am

re: #464 Decatur Deb

If he’s actually employed a as a bodyguard, this could be a Worker’s Comp case (related- travel incident). He should take it to the Labor Dept.

Damned Wobblies, always looking out for everyone…

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:45:49am

re: #482 wrenchwench

Damned Wobblies, always looking out for everyone…

Goons gotta eat, too.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:46:19am

re: #479 FormerDirtDart

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:46:50am
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Belafon  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:47:06am

re: #484 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Don’t worry, he’ll still blame Obama for not doing anything.

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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:49:08am

re: #479 FormerDirtDart

Wait, he knows that China tried? How does he know? He’s taking China’s word on it?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:50:23am

re: #487 lawhawk

Wait, he knows that China tried? How does he know? He’s taking China’s word on it?

He’s blurting out his top secret intel briefing again.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:50:29am

re: #485 The Vicious Babushka

Note that hitting that American flagged tweet will take you to a real ANP thread.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:51:49am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:52:38am

re: #489 Decatur Deb

Note that hitting that American flagged tweet will take you to a real ANP thread.

I blocked it.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:54:56am

re: #479 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

the yam said on the campaign trail that he could do it alone.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:54:57am

We seem to have shot down a drone operated by Assad BFFs:

bbc.com

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ipsos  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:56:54am

Will not waste the afternoon beating my head against a wall arguing with climate change denialists on FB.

Will not waste the afternoon beating my head against a wall arguing with climate change denialists on FB.

Will not waste the afternoon beating my head against a wall arguing with climate change denialists on FB.

Will not waste the afternoon beating my head against a wall arguing with climate change denialists on FB.

Where’d the afternoon go?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:57:17am

re: #485 The Vicious Babushka

I reported that page to Twitter. Now lets see what Twitter is going to do…

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Kragar  Jun 20, 2017 • 11:59:50am
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Kragar  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:00:48pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:00:55pm

0 hours without embarassing the nation

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:02:11pm

re: #490 Dave In Austin

]

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Stanley Sea  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:03:37pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:05:02pm
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ericblair  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:09:06pm

re: #498 FormerDirtDart

It’s just “Ukraine,” not “the Ukraine”; Ukrainians sometimes are offended by the latter, which connotes the Soviet era republic.

Ukrayina as a noun essentially means “the borderlands”. So, in English, the Ukraine is calling the country just “the borderlands”, while leaving off the article is calling it a country named Ukraine.

Of course, in Ukrainian and Russian there is no “the” or “a”, but it turns out to have the same distinction by which preposition you use to refer to it (“na” or “v”).

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:09:53pm

The semi-literates at “American Nazi Party” apparently don’t know that actual Third Reich National Socialists regarded the term “Nazi” as slang and even a slur and did not allow its use within the Reich.
Goebbels would be so embarrassed at these pretenders, and Heydrich would probably just take out his Walther and liquidate them right on the spot.

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:09:59pm

re: #501 FormerDirtDart

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Can we just drop this whole song and dance about how Republicans are “frustrated” or in any way put out by the process that this bill is being drafted in. They’re going to vote for it, they’re going to do so without fail, and any questions about what is actually in the bill will be withheld until after its passed. At which time “moderates” will act “betrayed” and suggest they never would have supported the bill if they’d known what was actually in it.

Want me to take this “frustration” seriously, Repubs? Refuse to vote on the bill until its contents are available to voters and we’ve had a public debate about it.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:17:39pm

WHOA! Hit ‘em where it hurts!
Report: NFL prepared to withhold Super Bowl from state of Texas

In April, it was revealed the Dallas Cowboys are the frontrunner to land the NFL’s offseason Super Bowl, and owner Jerry Jones wants to make it happen — having officially placed a bid to hold the event. It would be done in a dual-capacity between The Star in Frisco, TX and AT&T Stadium in Arlington.

That could depend greatly on what happens in the Texas Legislature in July, though.

Per David Moore of The Dallas Morning News, multiple sources state the NFL has their eye on the coming resolution of the “bathroom bill” — House Bill 2899 — a law that determines who can use what restroom facilities. Moore goes on to note the league is in no rush to make the call on who’ll host the draft next season, giving them time to see how things land first.

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covfefe  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:21:05pm

So who else has thought my avatar was a hair on their screen? :))))

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Kragar  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:27:36pm
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lawhawk  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:28:33pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:28:43pm

Damn! She was really out of control.

after a toxicology report disclosed the Star Wars actress, who died after a flight from London to Los Angeles in December, had taken cocaine in the last 72 hours of her life.
Fisher also had traces of methadone, heroin, and MDMA (commonly known as ecstasy or Molly) in her system, but the report did not definitively state whether these substances caused her death.

thedailybeast.com

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Jack Burton  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:30:09pm

re: #510 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Damn! She was really out of control.

thedailybeast.com

Addiction is a harsh bitch.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:32:32pm

Called it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:32:48pm

re: #505 Shiplord Kirel

Want to point out this is in reference to Dallas hosting the NFL Draft, NOT the actual Super Bowl.

Big money involved either way though.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:33:28pm

re: #511 Jack Burton

Addiction is a harsh bitch.

When sobriety breaks and we go out, we tend to go (relapse) with gusto…..

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Targetpractice  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:33:48pm

re: #509 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Exactly, this is all a staged play and yet the media falls for it every time. Republicans express “frustration” or “outrage” over the secrecy in their party, but when the bill finally comes to a vote, they’ll support it without fail. One or two in tough reelection battles will be allowed to peel off, but they will strong-arm 50 votes out of the caucus to ensure the bill passes. Then when the bill’s contents become public, that secrecy will be exploited by the “moderates” to insist they were totally fooled into supporting this pig in a poke.

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ericblair  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:36:22pm

re: #508 Kragar

Brussels central station evacuated after reports of explosion - Belgian police say situation under control

Er, OK. Local Brussels news says Centrale train and metro stations evacuated, one person reported hurt. No report of explosion. Central Station isn’t actually the big one in Brussels.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:38:53pm

re: #510 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Damn! She was really out of control.

thedailybeast.com

Mixing uppers and downers really isn’t good.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:42:26pm

re: #517 Timothy Watson

Mixing uppers and downers really isn’t good.

Aliotta Haynes - Uppers and Downers

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Stanley Sea  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:46:09pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:46:35pm

re: #511 Jack Burton

Addiction is a harsh bitch.

especially when you have ample resources to feed it…

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Kragar  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:47:08pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:47:35pm

re: #520 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

especially when you have ample resources to feed it…

And don’t have to show up for a 9-5 job. This is why rock-star is a vulnerable profession.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:48:32pm

re: #515 Targetpractice

Exactly, this is all a staged play and yet the media falls for it every time. Republicans express “frustration” or “outrage” over the secrecy in their party, but when the bill finally comes to a vote, they’ll support it without fail. One or two in tough reelection battles will be allowed to peel off, but they will strong-arm 50 votes out of the caucus to ensure the bill passes. Then when the bill’s contents become public, that secrecy will be exploited by the “moderates” to insist they were totally fooled into supporting this pig in a poke.

Because we have been taught that it is normal that our lawmakers do not know what they are legislation upon us…which then passes down the line to us not feeling compelled to comply with such laws if we don’t feel like it and the cycle of anarchy is complete

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ericblair  Jun 20, 2017 • 12:50:39pm

re: #521 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Now the local Brussels news reports that the fire department is saying there was a small blast, no one was hurt by it, one person “neutralized” by military patrol.

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KingKenrod  Jun 20, 2017 • 1:05:55pm

re: #509 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

This sounds like buck-passing with the added benefit that Lee can claim ignorance and avoid questions about the bill up until the time it hits the public.

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ObserverArt  Jun 20, 2017 • 1:29:12pm

re: #432 Skip Intro

BTW, did anybody know there’s also a special election in SC Fifth District today?

Didn’t think so.

Yeah. BeachDem has kept LGF updated on that for a couple months.

Where you been? /

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danarchy  Jun 20, 2017 • 2:22:40pm

re: #451 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The issue is that lying only goes so far. Even Conservatives will notice if they don’t have healthcare anymore. I try not to be paranoid, but it’s as if the Republicans don’t plan to need to win elections anymore.

They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They all ran promising to repeal ACA and if they don’t their base will revolt. If they pass the bill they may lose enough votes to lose re-election, if they don’t after controlling all the levers of government they will get a primary challenge.

Also the republican plan while a shit show will hardly be the healthcare apocalypse some seem to think it will be. Most people managed to get insurance before the ACA and even if it was repealed most people would still have insurance. So the question is would enough of those people who still have insurance be sufficiently outraged over those other people who lost their coverage? Or if their deductibles go down because the Insurance companies don’t have to cover all those sick people would they maybe think ‘hey this isn’t so bad’.


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