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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:01:19am

Department of Homeland Pacification: “Everything is JUST FINE.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:04:46am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:05:16am

Our Indian spammer friend has now registered 7 accounts and keeps trying to post crappy pages.

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:05:20am

Don’t listen to this if you know what is good for you.

John Schlitt: Undemocratic by Jay Sekulow Band


Also this makes me sad because I have loved this song since I was a child.

John Elefante: Dust in the Wind with John Schlitt, Jay Sekulow & Friends


Charles, what do you think of his Guitar chops ?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:05:41am

He’s now using a proxy server in Nevada.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:09:11am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

He’s now using a proxy server in Nevada.

Jeezus.

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calochortus  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:10:02am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

He’s now using a proxy server in Nevada.

That’s persistence. Unfortunately, it should not be rewarded.

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:11:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:11:47am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:14:03am
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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:16:17am

Frank Zappa wrote a song about Jay Sekulow

Heavenly Bank Account

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:17:46am

The Symptoms of Dying
Okay, stop breathing, get cold, eventually decompose. Pretty easy diagnosis even for lay people. Dr. Sara Perskin provides a more professional analysis, however, and it’s actually pretty interesting.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:19:05am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:19:49am
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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:20:26am
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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:22:35am
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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:23:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:23:51am
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makeitstop  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:26:23am

re: #17 jaunte

‘Honorable Omarosa’

Two words that shouldn’t even appear on the same page, let alone right next to one another.

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whitebeach  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:27:17am

re: #13 FormerDirtDart

Aw, shit. I swear to God these freakin things are following me.

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:27:17am
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ChuckJager95  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:28:31am

From my FB feed.

I challenged her to produce evidence on her claim that welfare was originally intended only for the Military, I can’t wait to see what other nightmare sites someone who proudly forwards from The American Bacon will throw at me.

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:29:24am
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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:32:18am

Are you ready to camp out?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:33:49am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:35:15am

re: #25 The Vicious Babushka

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Yeah. I’m sorry but that’s a stupid game and NK is really anything but socialist in how it’s actually practiced there. It’s not like Kim Jong Un lives the same life as other North Koreans.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:35:42am

re: #23 gocart mozart

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OF course they will. Republicans are dishonest fuckwits.

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:37:25am

Hate addicts.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:37:45am

re: #8 gocart mozart

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Must be nice to have Pat Robertson as your Sugar Daddy!

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Dave In Austin  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:37:59am
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Bubblehead II  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:38:08am

re: #24 jaunte

Are you ready to camp out?

No need. The total eclipse path is about 1 1/2 hrs drive north. So we will drive up, observe and then come back home.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:40:01am

Apparently it is now stupid question time in a dead thread…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:41:02am

re: #25 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:41:22am

re: #28 jaunte

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Hate addicts.

Some people just fucking suck. Why do this? Fucker.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:41:44am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently it is now stupid question time in a dead thread…

Oh? Ysy

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:41:59am

re: #33 Unshaken Defiance

HURR HURR NAZIS WAS TEH SOSULUST!!!! THAY EVEN HAS HAD SOSHULIST IN THERE NAME!!!!!!!!

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:42:25am

Abbott knows his voters.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:42:48am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently it is now stupid question time in a dead thread…

Like

Is it too early for beer?

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ChuckJager95  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:42:48am

re: #22 ChuckJager95

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From my FB feed.

I challenged her to produce evidence on her claim that welfare was originally intended only for the Military, I can’t wait to see what other nightmare sites someone who proudly forwards from The American Bacon will throw at me.

UPDATE!

She contacted me through messenger with a link to a user generated slide show (!!!) utilizing Comic Sans that said nothing of the sort. She also said she can’t find the other article because she “save(s) a lot of stuff” from the internet, but will forward it to me once found.

I keep hitting refresh on the hopes I get a new message because honestly this is now the highlight of my day :(

EDIT: Here’s the slide show. Pretty sure this is someone’s class project.

prezi.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:43:21am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently it is now stupid question time in a dead thread…

I have now been chastised for yawning…
How will I manage to survive???

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:43:26am

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR NAZIS WAS TEH SOSULUST!!!! THAY EVEN HAS HAD SOSHULIST IN THERE NAME!!!!!!!!

You jest but they really believe that. Don’t try telling them that the DRPK isn’t democratic nor a republic though, their puny heads may explode.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:43:39am

re: #38 Bubblehead II

Like

Is it too early for beer?

Beer is a breakfast beverage, so as long as you wait until breakfast, you’re fine.

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:44:12am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently it is now stupid question time in a dead thread…

Why is it always sneaking into a dead thread? It’s not like it hurts to be typed at.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:44:18am

re: #38 Bubblehead II

Like

Is it too early for beer?

It’s never too early for beer.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:45:25am

re: #25 The Vicious Babushka

Pretty sure the N. Korean government is not Socialist. But, who cares? The repubs define words as they wish a la Humpty Dumpty

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:46:21am

re: #37 jaunte

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Abbott knows his voters.

Abbott is a racist pig who prefers being tcot to governing.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:46:58am
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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:47:19am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

To which I gave one serious and one even more seriouser answers.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:48:41am

re: #47 Dr. Matt

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:49:19am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

You jest but they really believe that. Don’t try telling them that the DRPK isn’t democratic nor a republic though, their puny heads may explode.

HURR HURR N. KOREA IS ALL DEMOCRATS!!!! IT EVEN SAY SO IN THERE NAME!!11!!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:49:51am

re: #47 Dr. Matt

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Not to mention the cabinet which is the wealthiest in history but yeah Kellyanne the Dems are just awful for choosing someone as their leader who actually gets shit done.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:51:35am

And San Francisco is more real America than the 95% white counties that Trump is worshipped in. Well it’s all real America but SF is more representative of it.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:52:09am

How does the Democrat Party fix the problem of how Bennie Sanders was treated by the DNC?

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whitebeach  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:52:21am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently it is now stupid question time in a dead thread…

No shit?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:53:08am

re: #53 BigBadDemocrat

How does the Democrat Party fix the problem of how Bennie Sanders was treated by the DNC?

Make sure that everyone who runs in a Democratic party primary is, in fact, an actual Democrat and not a fucking tourist.

Oh and please fuck off and die in a fire.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:53:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:53:14am

re: #53 BigBadDemocrat

How does the Democrat Party fix the problem of how Bennie Sanders was treated by the DNC?

How should they treat someone who is not a member of their party? And it is the Democratic Party, unless you are an adherent of RW talking points…

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:53:39am

re: #53 BigBadDemocrat

How does the Democrat Party fix the problem of how Bennie Sanders was treated by the DNC?

Bernie isn’t a Democrat so it doesn’t matter how he was/is treated.

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:54:00am

re: #46 HappyWarrior

The absurd focus of the Texas GOP creating a nonexistent problem with the bathroom bill hoopla (which will cost Texas convention businesses millions) shows how devoted they are to suckering their base voters by appealing to their bigotry.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:54:47am

Hillary was, in fact, fighting on two fronts: an outsider trying to commandeer her party from the left while the weight of the GOP was directed at her from the right. And she still won the popular vote.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:54:56am

re: #53 BigBadDemocrat

How does the Democrat Party fix the problem of how Bennie Sanders was treated by the DNC?

Treated so bad he got most of his platform implemented? Fuck off. And honestly they did not even have to let him run as he’s not even a Democrat.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:55:38am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently it is now stupid question time in a dead thread…

It’s spreading…

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:55:39am

Dumb question: How do you lizards know when someone posts in a dead thread?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:55:47am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hillary was, in fact, fighting on two fronts: an outsider trying to commandeer her party from the left while the weight of the GOP was directed at her from the right. And she still won the popular vote.

Both times but everyone hates Hillary say the followers of the two guys who lost the popular vote to her.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:55:48am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Treated so bad he got most of his platform implemented? Fuck off. And honestly they did not even have to let him run as he’s not even a Democrat.

Yes, a lot of people were upset in closed primary states when they could not vote for him because they had registered as Independents.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:56:14am

re: #59 jaunte

The absurd focus of the Texas GOP creating a nonexistent problem with the bathroom bill hoopla (which will cost Texas convention businesses millions) shows how devoted they are to suckering their base voters by appealing to their bigotry.

Really does.

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:56:16am

re: #63 Dr. Matt

It shows up in the Spy.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:56:21am

re: #53 BigBadDemocrat

How does the Democrat Party fix the problem of how Bennie Sanders was treated by the DNC?

By telling him next time to fuck off and start his own party instead of using the Democratic Party’s apparatus and assets and then shitting all over his kind benefactors.
Because you’re right - he was accommodated way more than he should have been.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:57:11am

If the way things are being done is fine how come we are out of power and it gets worse by the month?

Even my parents who are both union members voted for this crazy Trump guy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:57:18am

re: #63 Dr. Matt

Dumb question: How do you lizards know when someone posts in a dead thread?

Spy mode.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:57:21am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, a lot of people were upset in closed primary states when they could not vote for him because they had registered as Independents.

They can be independents. That’s their right but they shouldn’t act like they should be deciding another party’s nominee. Bernie also lost big in a few open primary states too.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:57:58am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How should they treat someone who is not a member of their party? And it is the Democratic Party, unless you are an adherent of RW talking points…

I missed that - no actual Democrat says “Democrat Party.”

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sagehen  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:58:06am

re: #38 Bubblehead II

Like

Is it too early for beer?

a) it’s never too early for beer
b) it’s evening somewhere

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:58:29am

re: #71 HappyWarrior

They can be independents. That’s their right but they shouldn’t act like they should be deciding another party’s nominee. Bernie also lost big in a few open primary states too.

Those rules existed well before the primaries…but many seemed to be unaware of them and then whined like kiddies denied their candy.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:59:07am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Those rules existed well before the primaries…but many seemed to be unaware of them and then whined like kiddies denied their candy.

Exactly. They could have reregistered.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 11:59:59am

re: #69 BigBadDemocrat

If the way things are being done is fine how come we are out of power and it gets worse by the month?

Even my parents who are both union members voted for this crazy Trump guy.

Sounds like you should be dealing with that problem first.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:01:22pm

re: #67 jaunte

It shows up in the Spy.

Ah. Thanks

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makeitstop  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:03:36pm

re: #72 Jebediah, RBG

I missed that - no actual Democrat says “Democrat Party.”

One of the dumbest attempted insults ever, from a party that specializes in stupid things.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:04:03pm

re: #53 BigBadDemocrat

How does the Democrat Party fix the problem of how Bennie Sanders was treated by the DNC?

Perfect time to repost Gus:

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:04:24pm

re: #78 makeitstop

One of the dumbest attempted insults ever, from a party that specializes in stupid things.

Dude, they’re a party who thinks Rush Limbaugh is a satirist but if they ever had to read Swift, they’d want to know why this crazy Mick was advocating parents eating their kids.

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:05:38pm

Man sets fire to memorial for slain Virginia teen Nabra Hassanen
……………….
Jonathan Solomon, a 24-year-old from South Carolina, had been arrested just after 10 a.m., and added that “at this time, the incident does not appear to be motivated by bias.
nydailynews.com

Wut.

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sagehen  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:05:44pm

re: #69 BigBadDemocrat

If the way things are being done is fine how come we are out of power and it gets worse by the month?

Even my parents who are both union members voted for this crazy Trump guy.

I question the honesty of you using the pronoun “we”.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:06:16pm

re: #79 Dr. Matt

Perfect time to repost Gus:

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That pretty much is Bernie in a nutshell these days. I really have no respect for the idea that he was mistreated if he continues to do that shit. The Democratic Party isn’t perfect but we don’t need some asshole like Sanders using our party to advance his name, causes and get money from our members and donors and then to see him go on tv and trash it because we’re not being the white working class party he wants us to be. Got news for Bernie. This is a party for racial minorities, LGBT people as well as white working class people. If your beloved WWC can’t take that, then they don’t have a place in my party.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:06:20pm

re: #78 makeitstop

One of the dumbest attempted insults ever, from a party that specializes in stupid things.

Yup!
And in this case it is even dumber - being used by someone pretending to be a Democrat in an arena where many of us are going to spot the tell.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:07:06pm

re: #45 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Pretty sure the N. Korean government is not Socialist. But, who cares? The repubs define words as they wish a la Humpty Dumpty

In Texas, certain yokels and inbreds seem to associate “socialism” with such class-loaded terms as “social register” or “social skills” and hate it on that basis. The perception that academics, “pointy headed intellectuals,” are socialists tends to reinforce this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:07:37pm

re: #72 Jebediah, RBG

I missed that - no actual Democrat says “Democrat Party.”

I think that Rush Limbaugh started that convention in the 90’s, and whenever somebody starts talking about the “Democrat Party”, I generally break off the discussion…

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:09:08pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

That pretty much is Bernie in a nutshell these days.

In many ways, Bernie did more to undermine HRC and the Democrats than Fox “news” could ever accomplish.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:09:11pm

re: #53 BigBadDemocrat

He’s not a Democrat, so there is nothing they need to do for him. To him on the other hand is another story.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:09:37pm

And can I just say this enough of this bullshit about what the party was in the FDR days. FDR was head of a Democratic Party that didn’t take bold stops to prohibit lynching. I appreciate Roosevelt’s legacy especially on economics but let’s not rewrite history to ignore that FDR was fine with the Dixiecrats as long as they voted for his programs.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:09:54pm

LOL!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:10:15pm

re: #87 Dr. Matt

In many ways, Bernie did more to undermine HRC and the Democrats than Fox “news” could ever accomplish.

You’re not wrong there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:10:21pm

re: #87 Dr. Matt

In many ways, Bernie did more to undermine HRC and the Democrats than Fox “news” could ever accomplish.

He left the party open to weapons-grade ratfucking, and his airheaded adherents let themselves be played all the way…

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Bubblehead II  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:10:37pm

re: #63 Dr. Matt

Dumb question: How do you lizards know when someone posts in a dead thread?

Spy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:10:43pm

re: #81 jaunte

Man sets fire to memorial for slain Virginia teen Nabra Hassanen
……………….
Jonathan Solomon, a 24-year-old from South Carolina, had been arrested just after 10 a.m., and added that “at this time, the incident does not appear to be motivated by bias.
nydailynews.com

Wut.

probably just an extended case of that road rage…..///////////////////////

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:11:34pm

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

LOL!

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So, he has something else in common with Trump- supporting people against other people only for petty revenge.

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makeitstop  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:12:03pm

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He left the party open to weapons-grade ratfucking, and his airheaded adherents let themselves be played all the way…

and continue to let themselves be played to this very day.

Dumb is dumb.

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allegro  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:12:40pm

re: #69 BigBadDemocrat

If the way things are being done is fine how come we are out of power and it gets worse by the month?

Even my parents who are both union members voted for this crazy Trump guy.

And your vote made 3. Not fooling anyone here.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:12:45pm

I dunno guys. I see too many people like me- Fairly young white guys who think Bernie should be our party’s future and I for one don’t get it. It’s not just his age but honestly I really think Sanders is blind or maybe even indifferent to a lot of key issues for our party.

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:13:34pm

re: #49 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:13:37pm

re: #88 Bubblehead II

He’s not a Democrat, so there is nothing they need to do for him. To him on the other hand is another story.

BigBadDemocrat is a troll.

BTW, my standard response to my brother who always uses the term “Democrat Party” is that I never heard of the party; if he wants to get a response from me, he has to use the proper term.

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:14:07pm

Republicans, like trolls, are cowards who can’t stand the light.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:14:43pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:15:22pm

re: #101 jaunte

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Republicans, like trolls, are cowards who can’t stand the light.

Modern Republicans are, in fact, trolls.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:15:39pm

re: #101 jaunte

US House Republicans Block Democratic Resolution Demanding Trump’s Tax Returns For The Tenth Time - .

Why should the public have any legitimate interest in his business dealings?

/

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:16:08pm

re: #101 jaunte

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Republicans, like trolls, are cowards who can’t stand the light.

Drain the swamp. //

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:16:36pm

Republicans are a bunch of hypocritical cowards. Accuse Clinton of being corrupt while cheerleading the most corrupt bastard ever to hold down the Presidency.

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allegro  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:16:36pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Drain the swamp. //

I prefer flush the toilet.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:16:41pm

re: #28 jaunte

nydailynews.com
Hate addicts.

Set fire to a murdered little girl’s memorial? One can see this as part of a pattern with the utterly depraved phenomenon of Sandy Hook trutherism.

Okay, I know history. I understand the dangers of dehumanizing the enemy. But on what basis can we continue to regard these savages as human beings? They have deliberately, even gleefully, reverted to the law of the jungle, and a pretty nasty jungle at that.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:17:37pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I dunno guys. I see too many people like me- Fairly young white guys who think Bernie should be our party’s future and I for one don’t get it. It’s not just his age but honestly I really think Sanders is blind or maybe even indifferent to a lot of key issues for our party.

There are a lot of people who don’t like hearing that their success isn’t entirely due to their own effort. They feel like it detracts from what they’ve done and lessens their feeling of superiority over those who haven’t managed to achieve what they have. Bernie strips out a lot of that with his focus on “just the economics” because for a lot of these guys, being poor is the only disadvantage they face in our society.

It’s very, very easy to read when you think about how humans react emotionally. Most humans don’t like to be told that they’re wrong, or that their success is not entirely from their own efforts. Most humans don’t want to think through concepts that make them feel uncomfortable. It’s easier to ignore them or pretend they don’t exist.

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:17:43pm

Congressional Black Caucus refuses the photo-op. For cause.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:17:50pm

re: #108 Shiplord Kirel

Set fire to a murdered little girl’s memorial? One can see this as part of a pattern with the utterly depraved phenomenon of Sandy Hook trutherism.

Okay, I know history. I understand the dangers of dehumanizing the enemy. But on what basis can we continue to regard these savages as human beings? They have deliberately, even gleefully, reverted to the law of the jungle, and a pretty nasty jungle at that.

I hate dehumanizing. I really do but I’m really ashamed to call these people my fellow Americans. What kind of bastard does something like this?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:17:54pm

re: #108 Shiplord Kirel

Set fire to a murdered little girl’s memorial? One can see this as part of a pattern with the utterly depraved phenomenon of Sandy Hook trutherism.

Okay, I know history. I understand the dangers of dehumanizing the enemy. But on what basis can we continue to regard these savages as human beings? They have deliberately, even gleefully, reverted to the law of the jungle, and a pretty nasty jungle at that.

Perpetrator is still a human being, just a pathetic, ignorant bigoted one…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:18:24pm

re: #109 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There are a lot of people who don’t like hearing that their success isn’t entirely due to their own effort. They feel like it detracts from what they’ve done and lessens their feeling of superiority over those who haven’t managed to achieve what they have. Bernie strips out a lot of that with his focus on “just the economics” because for a lot of these guys, being poor is the only disadvantage they face in our society.

It’s very, very easy to read when you think about how humans react emotionally. Most humans don’t like to be told that they’re wrong, or that their success is not entirely from their own efforts. Most humans don’t want to think through concepts that make them feel uncomfortable. It’s easier to ignore them or pretend they don’t exist.

Well said.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:18:51pm

re: #100 Hecuba’s daughter

BigBadDemocrat is a troll.

BTW, my standard response to my brother who always uses the term “Democrat Party” is that I never heard of the party; if he wants to get a response from me, he has to use the proper term.

Yeah I know. Surprised Stinky hasn’t hit him with the ban hammer by now.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:18:54pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Republicans are a bunch of hypocritical cowards. Accuse Clinton of being corrupt while cheerleading the most corrupt bastard ever to hold down the Presidency.

Whenever the GOP accuses a Democrat of an unsavory act, it’s actually something they have committed or are going to commit.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:19:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:19:33pm

re: #115 Hecuba’s daughter

Whenever the GOP accuses a Democrat of an unsavory act, it’s actually something they have committed or are going to commit.

Yep. SEe Gingrich and Hastert while impeaching Clinton.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:19:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:20:18pm

re: #116 goddamnedfrank

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You mean not everyone loves Bernie? //

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:20:40pm

re: #116 goddamnedfrank

And then Bernie endorsed [Ossoff] Sunday before the election.

Like getting an endorsement from GW Bush at that point

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:21:34pm

re: #118 FormerDirtDart

CBC expected to decline a second meeting with Trump. Dem aide:
“No one wants to be a co-star on the reality show.”

this will be spun as the Black Caucus’ unwillingness to work with the President to improve the lot of black people…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:21:43pm

re: #114 Bubblehead II

Yeah I know. Surprised Stinky hasn’t hit him with the ban hammer by now.

He’s just annoying. Maybe if he hangs around long enough, he’ll actually learn something worthwhile. ///

Nah — trolls are incapable of anything except mindless repetition of Republican talking points.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:22:24pm

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Like getting an endorsement from GW Bush at that point

I contend that it probably hurt my candidate, Perriello. Sanders and his diehards think everyone loves him but there’s just as much of us on the left who are annoyed by him and is purity politics.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:23:13pm

Actually Sanders is becoming more like Sarah Palin in 2010 if I have to use an analogy.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:24:00pm

re: #110 jaunte

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Congressional Black Caucus refuses the photo-op. For cause.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:24:05pm

re: #122 Hecuba’s daughter

He’s just annoying. Maybe if he hangs around long enough, he’ll actually learn something worthwhile. ///

Nah — trolls are incapable of anything except mindless repetition of Republican talking points.

He is not likely to get the boot unless he gets personal or abusive/offensive.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:24:50pm

re: #116 goddamnedfrank

Exactly. If Hodgkinson had stayed in Illinois, perhaps Ossoff would have won. Remember, Georgia was the state where R ads tied Max Cleland to Osama bin Laden.

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:24:53pm
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BlueGrl21  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:25:31pm

The winds are starting to kick up a bit in Houston, and it looks like the birds have all hunkered down. The silence is eerie.

Big storm a coming, Captain.

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:25:36pm

re: #45 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Pretty sure the N. Korean government is not Socialist. But, who cares? The repubs define words as they wish a la Humpty Dumpty

The North Korean government is Democratic-Republic. It says so in their name, so it must be true.

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:26:17pm

might be time to fire up the grill

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:26:32pm

re: #130 Belafon

The North Korean government is Democratic-Republic. It says so in their name, so it must be true.

//

National Socialists!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:26:37pm

re: #128 gocart mozart

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And this political hooker accused the Dems of shoving ACA down our throats. Bite me, Mitch.

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nines09  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:26:52pm

I remember the world in flames outside my window. But I had my baby in my arms and she had me and nothing was going to stop us. Nothing. That was 47 years ago. Still hold my baby in my arms.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:27:16pm

re: #127 Hecuba’s daughter

Exactly. If Hodgkinson had stayed in Illinois, perhaps Ossoff would have won. Remember, Georgia was the state where R ads tied Max Cleland to Osama bin Laden.

I don’t know but it does appear it hurt which sucks because Ossoff obviously had nothing to do with what Hopkinson did nor did he condone it in anway.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:27:25pm

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is not likely to get the boot unless he gets personal or abusive/offensive.

so far he’s just garden-variety foolish.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:29:59pm

Now, don’t get me wrong, the shooting of the Congressmen botehred me but the shooting of the Sandy Hook kids bothered me even more. And of course, the hypocrisy. WE SHOULDN’T RUSH TO DO ANYTHING ON GUNS was the cry after Sandy Hook. After Alexandria, in a state I might add where CC is legal, Republicans are pushing ot allow Congressmen to open carry everywhere and here’s the thing, open carry wouldn’t have stopped Hopksinson. It was a fucking ambush.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:30:32pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

I don’t know but it does appear it hurt which sucks because Ossoff obviously had nothing to do with what Hopkinson did nor did he condone it in anway.

The GOP is effective at despicable ads which dishonestly target their opponents. Think of the Swift Boat liars and their damage to a real war hero. They are also expert at quoting out of context to mislead anyone who actually expends brain cells listening to them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:31:27pm

re: #138 Hecuba’s daughter

The GOP is effective at despicable ads which dishonestly target their opponents. Think of the Swift Boat liars and their damage toa real war hero. They are also expert at quoting out of context to mislead anyone who actually expends brain cells listening to them.

It helps that they have a press that does not call them out on such excesses, or even enables them in doing so.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:31:52pm

re: #138 Hecuba’s daughter

The GOP is effective at despicable ads which dishonestly target their opponents. Think of the Swift Boat liars and their damage to a real war hero. They are also expert at quoting out of context to mislead anyone who actually expends brain cells listening to them.

Yeah I haven’t forgotten or forgiven the way they treated Cleland and Kerry. Ann Coulter mocked Cleland too if you recall. Someone, who never served in uniform mocking a man who was wounded in combat serving his country.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:32:12pm

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It helps that they have a press that does not call them out on such excesses, or even enables them in doing so.

FNC enables them big time, yes.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:32:46pm

Anyhow I think I need to take a swim. So much bs out there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:32:55pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Yeah I haven’t forgotten or forgiven the way they treated Cleland and Kerry. Ann Coulter mocked Cleland too if you recall. Someone, who never served in uniform mocking a man who was wounded in combat serving his country.

They elected a draft-dodging President who mocked a Republican veteran who had served with honor…that says enough about such people.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:35:24pm

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They elected a President who mocked a former Republican who had served with honor…that says enough about such people.

You mean a current Republican. And he mocked Mexicans, women, the disabled, gold star families. The Republicans apparently all love bullies and autocrats; they are destroying the democracy the previous generations bequeathed to them. And they don’t care — both the base and the party leadership.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:35:37pm

re: #109 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There are a lot of people who don’t like hearing that their success isn’t entirely due to their own effort. They feel like it detracts from what they’ve done and lessens their feeling of superiority over those who haven’t managed to achieve what they have. Bernie strips out a lot of that with his focus on “just the economics” because for a lot of these guys, being poor is the only disadvantage they face in our society.

It’s very, very easy to read when you think about how humans react emotionally. Most humans don’t like to be told that they’re wrong, or that their success is not entirely from their own efforts. Most humans don’t want to think through concepts that make them feel uncomfortable. It’s easier to ignore them or pretend they don’t exist.

E.g. the rage vs. Obama’s “you didn’t build that”, even though its context makes it perfectly accurate.

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covfefe  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:36:28pm

re: #25 The Vicious Babushka

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:38:17pm

re: #145 EPR-radar

E.g. the rage vs. Obama’s “you didn’t build that”, even though its context makes it perfectly accurate.

My favorite was when Obama stated that ISIS was “not an existential threat to America”.

Which is true. Global warming or nuclear war are existential threats, ISIS is not going to be the end of us.

Their minds bleeped out that four-syllable word and the reported it as “Obama says that ISIS is not a threat to America!”

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:38:23pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I dunno guys. I see too many people like me- Fairly young white guys who think Bernie should be our party’s future and I for one don’t get it. It’s not just his age but honestly I really think Sanders is blind or maybe even indifferent to a lot of key issues for our party.

Far too many Bernie supporters make me think that he’s representing the white people wing of the Democratic party: If only those blacks would wait until we fix the white people’s problems, then we can get everything fixed. As a white person surrounded by racists, I can see the temptation, but it won’t work.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:39:09pm

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It helps that they have a press that does not call them out on such excesses, or even enables them in doing so.

That would be most of the mainstream media.

Fox News is a special case, since it is properly regarded as the propaganda arm of the Republican party.

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Interesting Times  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:39:23pm

re: #138 Hecuba’s daughter

The GOP is effective at despicable ads which dishonestly target their opponents. Think of the Swift Boat liars and their damage to a real war hero. They are also expert at quoting out of context to mislead anyone who actually expends brain cells listening to them.

This is what I was trying to get at yesterday when I said non-voters/3rd-party voters perceive Democrats as weak. The GOP is effective at making those despicable ads, but are the Dems effective at countering them? Not in a way that resonates with the disaffected/apathetic who might otherwise vote for them. It’s an unfortunate aspect of both basic human nature and the trashy aspects of US culture - people want to see you fight back in a bold, obvious way, otherwise they perceive you as weak and being unable to stand up for yourself/your ideas/them (think pro-wrestling and all the other manufactured drama out there, plus the “sports team” attitude toward politics - Dems have to do something about being perceived as the team that drops the ball, fails to play offense, etc - again, speak to would-be voters in a language they understand, or you will lose and lose and lose)

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:40:08pm

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It helps that they have a press that does not call them out on such excesses, or even enables them in doing so.

And voters who fall for them.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:41:00pm
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whitebeach  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:42:17pm

re: #134 nines09

I remember the world in flames outside my window. But I had my baby in my arms and she had me and nothing was going to stop us. Nothing. That was 47 years ago. Still hold my baby in my arms.

Help me out here. I remember June 1970 about as well as anyone who was in San Francisco remembers it, which is to say cloudily but with nice colors, but I don’t recall anything about the world being in flames anywhere except maybe in a few poor villages in Vietnam. So what are you talking about?

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:55:44pm

Translation: Someone tell me what I’m getting for my vote and we’ll be good

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 21, 2017 • 12:57:56pm

Don’t get your hopes up, we aren’t that lucky…

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:02:49pm
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freetoken  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:04:04pm

re: #154 FormerDirtDart

I suspect there are many Republican Senators who realize how radioactive this secret Senate health care bill really is.

McConnell and buddies only keep up the charade because they promised the mouth breathers that the ACA was so evil and it has to be undone… so now McConnell is doing the act where he’s doing something, but he’s really not.

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:06:25pm

re: #110 jaunte

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Congressional Black Caucus refuses the photo-op. For cause.

Plus, almost three months to send a thank you note? Bad form. Not “honorable.”
/

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:06:30pm

re: #157 freetoken

I suspect there are many Republican Senators who realize how radioactive this secret Senate health care bill really is.

McConnell and buddies only keep up the charade because they promised the mouth breathers that the ACA was so evil and it has to be undone… so now McConnell is doing the act where he’s doing something, but he’s really not.

He may actually blackmail other Republicans into supporting this legislation. If the elections yesterday had different outcomes, he may have paused but he must now believe they can do anything without taking a hit in the polls.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:08:02pm

re: #157 freetoken

I suspect there are many Republican Senators who realize how radioactive this secret Senate health care bill really is.

McConnell and buddies only keep up the charade because they promised the mouth breathers that the ACA was so evil and it has to be undone… so now McConnell is doing the act where he’s doing something, but he’s really not.

I see it the other way around, where McConnell already has the votes he needs for this travesty, and all of this angst from supposed ‘moderate’ Republicans is just a act to give them political cover.

Hopefully I’m wrong about this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:11:47pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:13:39pm

re: #159 Hecuba’s daughter

He may actually blackmail other Republicans into supporting this legislation. If the elections yesterday had different outcomes, he may have paused but he must now believe they can do anything without taking a hit in the polls.

The GOP has taken big hits in these special elections, but none of these hits were enough to turn around these very Republican districts.

When the ruling party creates vacancies in the House that need to be filled with special elections, they choose safe seats for their own party. Several of these have turned out to be competitive instead of safe, so all that GOP margin disappeared because of tr*mp.

This has to be bothering the dozen or so US Republicans that remain capable of counting and other feats of simple arithmetic.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:13:48pm

nope, nope, nope…

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:14:41pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bullshit. If the GOP ‘healthcare’ bill were that great, it wouldn’t be the best-kept secret in DC.

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:15:19pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

“You don’t NEED no stinkin’ safety net.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:16:24pm

re: #163 FormerDirtDart

nope, nope, nope…

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So true of my guy (long passed on) and water!!

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:20:24pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:21:26pm

Thanks for the twitter account Jaunte.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:28:07pm

re: #149 EPR-radar

That would be most of the mainstream media.

Fox News is a special case, since it is properly regarded as the propaganda arm of the Republican party.

It is. If there is coordination and collusion anywhere, it is between Fox and the GOP.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:28:44pm

I can almost always tell when I read something at DailyKos written by Hunter. dailykos.com

Which is the one and only reason Senate Republicans are keeping their version of the bill a closely-held secret until the last possible moment: They know the public is going to hate it. It’s going to look very much like the House bill, it’s going to uninsure millions of American citizens for no other reason than to pass the House-style tax cuts, people are going to die as a direct result and nearly everybody in America knows all of that.

Many in the Republican base are still fine with it, because they would agree to saw off their own legs and glue live chickens to the stumps if they thought Barack Obama would be against them doing that, but anyone with a preexisting condition, anyone who has health insurance now that didn’t have it before, anyone on Medicaid who couldn’t get it before and anyone who has a basic sense of decency isn’t a fan. And Republican disapproval, too, is rapidly rising:

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:29:15pm

re: #154 FormerDirtDart

Translation: Someone tell me what I’m getting for my vote and we’ll be good

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Cuomo gave him a good push back this morning on the “Obamacare is a disaster” talking point.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:32:24pm

re: #159 Hecuba’s daughter

He may actually blackmail other Republicans into supporting this legislation. If the elections yesterday had different outcomes, he may have paused but he must now believe they can do anything without taking a hit in the polls.

The planning is this: the real extent of the damage caused by the AHCA will not fully manifest itself until after the midterms, and then it will have been glossed over by the 2020 elections. Mitch McC is an evil genius at taking advantage of our collective gnat’s attention span.

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sagehen  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:33:27pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

And can I just say this enough of this bullshit about what the party was in the FDR days. FDR was head of a Democratic Party that didn’t take bold stops to prohibit lynching. I appreciate Roosevelt’s legacy especially on economics but let’s not rewrite history to ignore that FDR was fine with the Dixiecrats as long as they voted for his programs.

All of FDR’s economic programs to assist the WWC… the WWC were supportive of these programs ONLY ON THE CONDITION that blacks and hispanics couldn’t have access to any of the benefits.

That’s how poor white people became middle class, and poor non-whites were left behind.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:35:32pm
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Bubblehead II  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:38:34pm

New GoT trailer is out. Looks good.

Game of Thrones Season 7: #WinterIsHere Trailer #2 (HBO)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:39:52pm

re: #164 EPR-radar

Bullshit. If the GOP ‘healthcare’ bill were that great, it wouldn’t be the best-kept secret in DC.

It’s gonna be great, believe me!

(has worked every time so far)

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allegro  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:41:07pm

re: #174 FormerDirtDart

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Mother Nature is the sneakiest and most bad ass of them all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:41:09pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:41:28pm

re: #174 FormerDirtDart

I have read that one of the things individuals can do to reduce their carbon footprint is to eat less meat. Maybe nature is trying to force our hand.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:42:42pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:43:08pm

Climate change is already getting expensive.

Miami’s fight against rising tides (BBC Future)

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nines09  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:46:00pm

re: #153 whitebeach

Help me out here. I remember June 1970 about as well as anyone who was in San Francisco remembers it, which is to say cloudily but with nice colors, but I don’t recall anything about the world being in flames anywhere except maybe in a few poor villages in Vietnam. So what are you talking about?

Yeah. What the fuck do I know?

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:47:06pm

re: #182 nines09

Yeah. What the fuck do I know?

That’s what we’re wondering.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:47:22pm

re: #173 sagehen

All of FDR’s economic programs to assist the WWC… the WWC were supportive of these programs ONLY ON THE CONDITION that blacks and hispanics couldn’t have access to any of the benefits.

That’s how poor white people became middle class, and poor non-whites were left behind.

One of the major achievements of the 20th century civil rights era was passage of important civil right legislation on a bipartisan basis. Supporters of this legislation came from both parties, as did its opponents.

Since then, we’ve had the civil rights realignment where the Republicans have become the party of bigotry.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:47:41pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:52:11pm

re: #185 FormerDirtDart

Nancy Pelosi is 77, Bernie Sanders is 75. One is allegedly too old for politics but the other is being feted to run for President at age 78

Pelosi and Sanders are not the bad news. This is:

Franken: ‘I don’t want to be president’

thehill.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:54:11pm

re: #134 nines09

I remember the world in flames outside my window. But I had my baby in my arms and she had me and nothing was going to stop us. Nothing. That was 47 years ago. Still hold my baby in my arms.

Is this comment related to the song “World in Flames”?

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KGxvi  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:55:18pm

re: #174 FormerDirtDart

Oh, fuck this tick.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:57:02pm
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nines09  Jun 21, 2017 • 1:57:08pm

re: #183 Belafon

That’s what we’re wondering.

At my darkest and most dangerous time in my life, love found me. And I was was smart enough to know what I had. Gee. I guess you had to be there, eh?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:00:37pm
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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:01:37pm

re: #191 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This is an encouraging development.

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CongoJack  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:01:55pm

re: #186 Decatur Deb

Pelosi and Sanders are not the bad news. This is:

Franken: ‘I don’t want to be president’

thehill.com

Oh a person after my own heart.

Franken/Gillibrand 2020!
or
Harris/Gillibrand 2020!
or
Gillibrand/Franken 2020!
or
Gillibrand/Harris 2020!
or
Harris/Franken 2020!
or
Franken/Harris 2020!

I care not which - these are my 3… so far…

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ipsos  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:05:03pm

re: #193 CongoJack

Becerra/Klobuchar 2020

Klobuchar/Becerra 2020

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nines09  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:06:51pm

re: #187 Hecuba’s daughter

Is this comment related to the song “World in Flames”?

Nope. Life. Think of it a poetry. I do. Life took so much, but I held onto my baby. Sorry. Like I always said, we are all exquisitely damaged in our own elegant ways. Ah. Hug someone. Just musings from an old man…
Love

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:07:03pm

re: #191 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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now now, they would start stabbing each other about who has the most friends who are black…

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:07:45pm

re: #191 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Need more information. Like what is their home church, which of our Walmarts do they shop?

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:08:42pm

re: #193 CongoJack

Oh a person after my own heart.

Franken/Gillibrand 2020!
or
Harris/Gillibrand 2020!
or
Gillibrand/Franken 2020!
or
Gillibrand/Harris 2020!
or
Harris/Franken 2020!
or
Franken/Harris 2020!

I care not which - these are my 3… so far…

Wanted Franken/Warren, any order.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:10:13pm

re: #198 Decatur Deb

Wanted Franken/Warren, any order.

I think you need someone younger on the ticket.

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:10:30pm

re: #175 Bubblehead II

New GoT trailer is out. Looks good.

[Embedded content]

It’s about time…winter has been coming for over six years now.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:10:48pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

He’s now using a proxy server in Nevada.

Nice to have so much extra time …

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:11:05pm

I think the ticket will include at least one governor.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:12:05pm

It’s too bad though that Franken doesn’t seem to want it because he’s smart and goddongit I like him.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:12:09pm

re: #193 CongoJack

Oh a person after my own heart.

Franken/Gillibrand 2020!
or
Harris/Gillibrand 2020!
or
Gillibrand/Franken 2020!
or
Gillibrand/Harris 2020!
or
Harris/Franken 2020!
or
Franken/Harris 2020!

I care not which -these are my 3… so far…

No way will there be 2 women on the ticket — having one woman was toxic in 2016. OTOH, assuming there are still relatively free elections (no guarantee in this age of Trump) and this country has not disintegrated into Mad Maxdom , voters may be ready for a woman after the damage inflicted by 2 white men.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:13:00pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

I think you need someone younger on the ticket.

Voting for someone because they are young is precisely as stupid as voting for someone because they are old.

(That rhetorical structure works for any of our political planes of cleavage.)

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:13:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:13:27pm

Klobuchar is interesting. Has a legal background, from a region we had some trouble in last time, but I’d like to learn more.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:13:41pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

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I’m not convinced he limits his activities to adult women.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:14:03pm

re: #200 darthstar

It’s about time…winter has been coming for over six years now.

And the GRRM TWOW is not anywhere in sight.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:14:13pm

re: #205 Decatur Deb

Voting for someone because they are young is precisely as stupid as voting for someone because they are old.

(That rhetorical structure works for any of our political planes of cleavage.)

I don’t disagree with that but a ticket with two people over 65 I just don’t see working. Optics do mean something in this business.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:15:00pm

re: #210 HappyWarrior

I don’t disagree with that but a ticket with two people over 65 I just don’t see working. Optics do mean something in this business.

That’s why Ossoff won.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:16:00pm

re: #211 Decatur Deb

That’s why Ossoff won.

Oh come on DD. I don’t mean a green 36 year old. I just think a mid 40’s something with some experience. Whether we like it or not, there is a perception that our leadership is old.

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CongoJack  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:16:31pm

re: #194 ipsos

re: #198 Decatur Deb

Oh and how could I forget Tammy Duckworth… add her to my previous post and I’ve got 4 desired. Not certain about Klobuchar/Becerra (in any order). I dont know much about Becerra - Klobuchar I do like though but if I’m taking anyone from MN its Franken frankly.

We have a whole bunch of good candidates in the Dem Party. The Repubs not so much I believe. Though they (Rs) have the ignorance gap on their side.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:16:41pm

re: #184 EPR-radar

One of the major achievements of the 20th century civil rights era was passage of important civil right legislation on a bipartisan basis. Supporters of this legislation came from both parties, as did its opponents.

Since then, we’ve had the civil rights realignment where the Republicans have become the party of bigotry.

We can thank LBJ for knowing how to get the votes.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:16:47pm

Someone like Gillbrand would actually I think be compelling as a running mate despite being from a safe state because her home district is actually fairly conservative.

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:16:50pm

re: #204 Hecuba’s daughter

Al Franken / Jill Stein
Franken/Stein 2020

It could be made into a monster
If we all pull together as a team.

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CongoJack  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:17:21pm

re: #205 Decatur Deb

Voting for someone because they are young is precisely as stupid as voting for someone because they are old.

(That rhetorical structure works for any of our political planes of cleavage.)

OMG Deb…. same argument I’ve used here. If I wasn’t already married….

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:17:22pm

re: #214 CongoJack

Oh and how could I forget Tammy Duckworth… add her to my previous post and I’ve got 4 desired. Not certain about Klobuchar/Becerra (in any order). I dont know much about Becerra - Klobuchar I do like though but if I’m taking anyone from MN its Franken frankly.

We have a whole bunch of good candidates in the Dem Party. The Repubs not so much I believe. Though they (Rs) have the ignorance gap on their side.

Our roster is better than people think it is.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:17:44pm

re: #204 Hecuba’s daughter

having one woman was toxic in 2016.

I am kind of curious about how a qualified woman who hasn’t had decades of bullshit flung at her by the Smear-the-Clintons machine would have fared. I had to bite my tongue so many times when people would pop off with crap about HRC that they couldn’t back up. “Why, exactly, is she so nasty?” “She just is.”

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:18:32pm

Finally one of them openly admits it:

Several commenters were quick to point out that the GOP controls the House, the Senate, and the Executive Branch so he might even be right.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:18:34pm

re: #220 Jebediah, RBG

I am kind of curious about how a qualified woman who hasn’t had decades of bullshit flung at her by the Smear-the-Clintons machine would have fared. I had to bite my tongue so many times when people would pop off with crap about HRC that they couldn’t back up. “Why, exactly, is she so nasty?” “She just is.”

And honestly there are a lot of people on the left who hate her too. They too could never explain it. My own brothers fell for that crap.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:18:35pm

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CongoJack  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:18:46pm

re: #217 gocart mozart

Al Franken / Jill Stein
Franken/Stein 2020

I don’t want Jill Stein on my team. She has her own team and absolutely no experience in politics/elected office.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:18:50pm

re: #217 gocart mozart

Al Franken / Jill Stein
Franken/Stein 2020

Nooooooo!!!

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:19:23pm

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Oh come on DD. I don’t mean a green 36 year old. I just think a mid 40’s something with some experience. Whether we like it or not, there is a perception that our leadership is old.

You do realize that I think of Warren and Franken as the next generation?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:19:38pm

re: #221 Shiplord Kirel

Finally one of them openly admits it:

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Several commenters were quick to point out that the GOP controls the House, the Senate, and the Executive Branch so he might even be right.

So does that mean Rick thinks Trump , Ryan, and McConnell are satanists? Somehow, I think you forgot Rick that your side is in charge of America too. But yeah go stand with Russia, asshole. Go stand with a man who literally was a member of hte KGB.

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:19:39pm

re: #209 Hecuba’s daughter

And the GRRM TWOW is not anywhere in sight.

Whatever the hell that means…

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:19:49pm

re: #185 FormerDirtDart

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Charlie Pierce’s take:

I am charmed to my bones by the faith these young folks have that Pelosi’s replacement would be someone dedicated to single-payer healthcare, the $15 minimum wage, and hanging banksters from lamp posts…

If you want to make the case that the age of the Democratic congressional leadership makes the emergence of new faces more difficult, I’ll listen to that argument, but leave Bernie Sanders out of it, because you sound like a fool.

esquire.com

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:19:55pm

re: #224 CongoJack

I don’t want Jill Stein on my team. She has her own team and absolutely no experience in politics/elected office.

I think you missed the joke :).

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:20:16pm

re: #218 CongoJack

OMG Deb…. same argument I’ve used here. If I wasn’t already married….

And I weren’t a great-grandfather…

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CongoJack  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:20:24pm

re: #223 A Mom Anon

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:20:32pm

re: #220 Jebediah, RBG

I am kind of curious about how a qualified woman who hasn’t had decades of bullshit flung at her by the Smear-the-Clintons machine would have fared. I had to bite my tongue so many times when people would pop off with crap about HRC that they couldn’t back up. “Why, exactly, is she so nasty?” “She just is.”

Imagine the blowback if Republicans go after Duckworth.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:20:48pm

re: #229 BeachDem

Charlie Pierce’s take:

I am charmed to my bones by the faith these young folks have that Pelosi’s replacement would be someone dedicated to single-payer healthcare, the $15 minimum wage, and hanging banksters from lamp posts…

If you want to make the case that the age of the Democratic congressional leadership makes the emergence of new faces more difficult, I’ll listen to that argument, but leave Bernie Sanders out of it, because you sound like a fool.

esquire.com

Bernie never gets questioned on his age by those types. Pelosi and Clinton do. And Bernie’s been in Washington nearly as long as Nancy has.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:21:19pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

And honestly there are a lot of people on the left who hate her too. They too could never explain it. My own brothers fell for that crap.

It is so fucking frustrating!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:21:34pm

re: #233 Belafon

Imagine the blowback if Republicans go after Duckworth.

Well they went after Kerry too and made a mockery of his Purple Hearts. Don’t underestimate how scummy parts of our pubic can be with partisanship. I still remember the cracks at Kerry in 2004.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:21:36pm

re: #221 Shiplord Kirel

Finally one of them openly admits it:

Rick Wiles proudly stands with Russia because “the people in control of America today are Satanists.”

Several commenters were quick to point out that the GOP controls the House, the Senate, and the Executive Branch so he might even be right.

Russia is an authoritarian, oligarchic theocracy. Exactly what the GOP wants, except Fundamentalist Protestant Christian instead of Russian Orthodox.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:22:03pm

re: #235 Jebediah, RBG

It is so fucking frustrating!

Tell me about it. My brothers are both smart guys but they bought lefty propaganda on her.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:22:15pm

re: #223 A Mom Anon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:22:43pm

re: #227 HappyWarrior

So does that mean Rick thinks Trump , Ryan, and McConnell are satanists? Somehow, I think you forgot Rick that your side is in charge of America too. But yeah go stand with Russia, asshole. Go stand with a man who literally was a member of hte KGB.

He is referring to all those Deep State Bureaucrats who are trying to hinder Trump from doing God’s Work here in America

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:22:53pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

Well they went after Kerry too and made a mockery of his Purple Hearts. Don’t underestimate how scummy parts of our pubic can be with partisanship. I still remember the cracks at Kerry in 2004.

I’m not saying they won’t. But her injuries aren’t just represented by a small medal.

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CongoJack  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:23:01pm

re: #231 Decatur Deb

And I weren’t a great-grandfather…

Meh… opposites attract….hehe

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:23:19pm

re: #227 HappyWarrior

So does that mean Rick thinks Trump , Ryan, and McConnell are satanists? Somehow, I think you forgot Rick that your side is in charge of America too. But yeah go stand with Russia, asshole. Go stand with a man who literally was a member of hte KGB.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:23:21pm

There was a Senator Simpson and a Senator Flanders but they were in office at different times.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:23:26pm

re: #223 A Mom Anon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:23:42pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

Well they went after Kerry too and made a mockery of his Purple Hearts. Don’t underestimate how scummy parts of our pubic can be with partisanship. I still remember the cracks at Kerry in 2004.

Trump did not hesitate to go after a fellow Republican when it suited him…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:23:54pm

re: #241 Belafon

I’m not saying they won’t. But her injuries aren’t just represented by a small medal.

True, true. I really admire the hell out of her. She’s a tough lady. Not just for her service but politically too.

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:23:56pm

re: #226 Decatur Deb

You do realize that I think of Warren and Franken as the next generation?

Warren’s 67 , Franken’s 66 They’d better start making FrankenWarren babies because either or both of them could decide it’s time to enjoy sitting on a veranda eating fresh truffles on pasta in Italy more than arguing with recalcitrant Republicans.

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:24:14pm

re: #224 CongoJack

I hate hate hate that useful idiot tool of fascim Jill Stein but we have to make sacrifices for the sake of bad puns.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:24:54pm

re: #249 gocart mozart

I hate hate hate that useful idiot tool of fascim Jill Stein but we have to make sacrifices for the sake of bad puns.

It’s pronoucned Fronkensteen.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:25:35pm

re: #233 Belafon

Imagine the blowback if Republicans go after Duckworth.

And I really don’t think they are capable of restraining themselves from doing just that.

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:25:44pm

This is a funny cartoon

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:26:13pm

re: #248 darthstar

Warren’s 67 , Franken’s 66 They’d better start making FrankenWarren babies because either or both of them could decide it’s time to enjoy sitting on a veranda eating fresh truffles on pasta in Italy more than arguing with recalcitrant Republicans.

Fortunately(or not), most politicians, even the ‘good’ ones, are addicted to their office and all it entails. So while they can retire, almost none do…Boehner is a rare exception. He wants to enjoy his golf, wine and smokes while he can…fuck everyone else. God bless him for that.

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retired cynic  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:26:54pm

re: #233 Belafon

Imagine the blowback if Republicans go after Duckworth.

They did it to Max Cleland. They’ll do it to Tammy Duckworth. Equal opportunity a$$holes.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:27:17pm

re: #223 A Mom Anon

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makeitstop  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:27:29pm

re: #223 A Mom Anon

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{{{Mom}}}

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:27:42pm

re: #254 retired cynic

They did it to Max Cleland. They’ll do it to Tammy Duckworth. Equal opportunity a$$holes.

And we saw “Honorable” Mark Kirk’s pathetic dig at her during that campaign that made me wish so much our Kirk apologist hadn’t left us.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:27:56pm

re: #249 gocart mozart

I hate hate hate that useful idiot tool of fascim Jill Stein but we have to make sacrifices for the sake of bad puns.

I disagree completely. Was GOOD pun!

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:28:34pm

re: #223 A Mom Anon

Shit. Sorry.

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blueraven  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:29:20pm

re: #4 gocart mozart

Don’t listen to this if you know what is good for you.

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Video

Charles, what do you think of his Guitar chops ?

He has no guitar chops. The other band members are OK, the vocals are pretty good, The songwriting is horrendous. But Sekulow on guitar? Didn’t see anything from him that an absolute beginner couldn’t do.

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KGxvi  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:31:12pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

Well they went after Kerry too and made a mockery of his Purple Hearts. Don’t underestimate how scummy parts of our pubic can be with partisanship. I still remember the cracks at Kerry in 2004.

There were three things in the 2004 conventions that I can probably point to as things that made me move away from the GOP: the purple heart band aids; Obama’s speech; and, Zell Miller’s speech. I was always much more libertarian in my leanings, but the tone set by those three displays made me realize I had no place in the GOP.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:31:56pm

re: #257 HappyWarrior

And we saw “Honorable” Mark Kirk’s pathetic dig at her during that campaign that made me wish so much our Kirk apologist hadn’t left us.

But that was a thoughtless dig, probably due to the effects of his stroke. With the wealth of the Koch Bros et al, they will have the most malicious evil ads that money can buy attacking Duckworth.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:32:09pm

re: #257 HappyWarrior

And we saw “Honorable” Mark Kirk’s pathetic dig at her during that campaign that made me wish so much our Kirk apologist hadn’t left us.

There’s pretty much no chance of real communication between a Republican and a non-Republican. It’s not just a matter of different languages or different starting assumptions. Republicans just do not inhabit the same reality as non-Republicans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:32:59pm

re: #261 KGxvi

There were three things in the 2004 conventions that I can probably point to as things that made me move away from the GOP: the purple heart band aids; Obama’s speech; and, Zell Miller’s speech. I was always much more libertarian in my leanings, but the tone set by those three displays made me realize I had no place in the GOP.

It was clear that they would stop at nothing and stoop as low as necessary

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:33:34pm

Old but always relevant.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:33:37pm

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was clear that they would stop at nothing and stoop as low as necessary

And their base will applaud them for it.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:34:18pm

I really wish that Democrats in the position to help win elections would look at two bits of history and study them closely. The first being how the GOP rose to power in its current form, how they built infrastructure on a local to federal level, including media as well as on the ground in individual communities. This did not happen overnight. It took decades of ratfucking and undermining what were deemed “liberal” policies. Lots of money and time were spent on this.

The second thing is what was done to build this false history of wrongdoing around Bill and Hillary Clinton. Neither are perfect, but the amount of bullshit out there about them is stupefying.

Several years ago I was in an group panel online discussion with George Soros and I asked him why rich liberals wouldn’t invest in corporate level media structures (this was as Air America was failing financially due to lack of experience and total stupid financial management) and his answer was that is cost too much. Well that’s fucking helpful. Until we stop bringing fresh baked cookies to a gunfight, this battle is going to be a lot tougher than it is already.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:34:21pm

Build a wall around Canada!

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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:34:46pm

re: #38 Bubblehead II

Like

Is it too early for beer?

Well, I woke up this morning, I got myself a beer
Well, I woke up this morning, and I got myself a beer
The future’s uncertain, and the end is always near

The Doors, Roadhouse Blues

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makeitstop  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:35:12pm

re: #260 blueraven

He has no guitar chops. The other band members are OK, the vocals are pretty good, The songwriting is horrendous. But Sekulow on guitar? Didn’t see anything from him that an absolute beginner couldn’t do.

Like I said last night, the best I can say is to call him ‘a guy who hangs out with musicians.’

For all we know, those other dudes are in a band with him because he bankrolls the studio.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:35:53pm

re: #263 EPR-radar

There’s pretty much no chance of real communication between a Republican and a non-Republican. It’s not just a matter of different languages or different starting assumptions. Republicans just do not inhabit the same reality as non-Republicans.

You have no idea how much this is true.

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KGxvi  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:35:55pm

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was clear that they would stop at nothing and stoop as low as necessary

The speeches were real eye openers for me. I remember saying after Obama’s that he’d be president one day (didn’t think it’d be as soon as it was). It felt very different from what I’d see from other Democrats to that point (and, to a large extent, since). I also remember saying after Miller’s speech that his fire and brimstone, anger fueled rant was not the same vision I had of the future. Such a stark contrast it was really incredible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:36:14pm

re: #266 Hecuba’s daughter

And their base will applaud them for it.

To the point that it launched a race to the bottom of bigoted baseness, and they are still on their way down…

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:37:41pm

re: #260 blueraven

Apparently John Schlitt (Singer) is big in the “Christian Rock” scene en.wikipedia.org
Sekelow seemed like he was playing one note over and over.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:39:11pm

re: #261 KGxvi

There were three things in the 2004 conventions that I can probably point to as things that made me move away from the GOP: the purple heart band aids; Obama’s speech; and, Zell Miller’s speech. I was always much more libertarian in my leanings, but the tone set by those three displays made me realize I had no place in the GOP.

I had an online friend from Illinois around that time. She talked alot about this guy Obama and then I saw the keynote. It was a very impressive speech I thought. And yeah I remember Miller’s speech too. Total trash.I don’t know what happened to Miller. He was once a fairly mainstream Southern Dem and a moderate but in the Bush years, he went far right.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:39:11pm

re: #274 gocart mozart

Apparently John Schlitt (Singer) is big in the “Christian Rock” scene en.wikipedia.org

So was Tony Soprano’s sister, for a while.

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:41:34pm

re: #269 William Lewis

Like

Is it too early for beer?

it’s noon somewhere.

Elise Davis - “I Go To Bars And Get Drunk”

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Amory Blaine  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:43:46pm

Here she is. Plays real nice.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:44:51pm

Evening Lizardim.

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makeitstop  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:45:20pm

re: #278 Amory Blaine

Here she is. Plays real nice.

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Congrats! (No joke!)

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Birth Control Works  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:45:35pm

With a rapper’s death, harsh spotlight falls on slow progress against sickle cell

It has been 61 years since the discovery of the mutation responsible for sickle cell, which affects about 100,000 people in the U.S., and 30 years since scientists found a compensatory mutation — one that keeps people from developing sickle cell despite inheriting the mutant genes. Last year, when STAT examined the lack of progress, scientists and hospital officials were frank about one reason for it: Other genetic disorders, notably cystic fibrosis, attracted piles of money that led to cures, but sickle cell strikes the “wrong” kind of people, including African-Americans, and so has historically been starved for funds.

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:48:20pm

re: #268 Dr. Matt

Build a wall around Canada!

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So that was terrorism but the murder of the Muslim girl in Virginia was road rage.

Alrighty then.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:48:35pm

re: #267 A Mom Anon

Everyone wants to hear things they find agreeable, but most Republicans are much more invested in this than most Democrats are. A Fox News of the left would find few customers, IMO, even it were designed to emit a better grade of propaganda by being truthful while attacking Republicans 365/24/7.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:48:49pm

re: #282 BeachDem

So that was terrorism but the murder of the Muslim girl in Virginia was road rage.

Alrighty then.

Bingo

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Brian J.  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:48:50pm

re: #215 Birth Control Works

We can thank LBJ for knowing how to get the votes.

By having his predecessor get shot? LBJ was a brilliant politician, but I doubt very much he could have gotten elected President on his own without the ghosts of Camelot.

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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:49:00pm

re: #277 gocart mozart

it’s noon somewhere.

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Video

Lydia Loveless - Learn to Say No

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:49:21pm

re: #228 darthstar

Whatever the hell that means…

Not a diehard book fan, are you? :-)

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:50:51pm

re: #285 Brian J.

By having his predecessor get shot? LBJ was a brilliant politician, but I doubt very much he could have gotten elected President on his own without the ghosts of Camelot.

Think she means different votes—Congressional votes for the CRA, etc.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:52:01pm

re: #271 Birth Control Works

You have no idea how much this is true.

I’m pretty sheltered from this in real life (SF bay area). Online I make a habit of reading RedState from time to time, mainly to try to avoid falling for my own wish-fullfillment.

A lot of what I read there clearly comes from this other reality. E.g., the bizarre notion (even among anti-trumpers) that tr*mp and Obama are both comparable narcissists.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:53:03pm

re: #285 Brian J.

By having his predecessor get shot? LBJ was a brilliant politician, but I doubt very much he could have gotten elected President on his own without the ghosts of Camelot.

sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:53:07pm

re: #289 EPR-radar

I’m pretty sheltered from this in real life (SF bay area). Online I make a habit of reading RedState from time to time, mainly to try to avoid falling for my own wish-fullfillment.

A lot of what I read there clearly comes from this other reality. E.g., the bizarre notion (even among anti-trumpers) that tr*mp and Obama are both comparable narcissists.

The notion that Trump is at all qualified for the office of the Presidency.

I cannot for the life of me understand how anybody could begin to think that.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:53:18pm

re: #288 Decatur Deb

Think he means different votes—Congressional votes for the CRA, etc.

The ghosts of Camelot may have helped with those votes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:53:39pm

re: #290 Birth Control Works

sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.

That was Oliver Stone’s CT in “LBJ”

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:53:57pm

What a sad and moody song this is

Elise Davis - “Straight Up” (Paula Abdul Cover)

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Brian J.  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:54:23pm

re: #288 Decatur Deb

Think he means different votes—Congressional votes for the CRA, etc.

That wouldn’t have been possible without the 1964 blowout, which in turn LBJ could never have won on his own and which JFK probably couldn’t have, either. (If you look at the history of Presidential approval ratings, JFK’s most closely resembles… George W. Bush’s, with a big boost from the Cuban Missile Crisis/ 9/11 and Gulf War that steadily decayed thereafter. He’d have likely won a narrow re-election, but without the sweep of new liberal Congressmen that made the Great Society possible, and he wasn’t really interested in big moves on the civil rights front anyway.)

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:55:46pm

re: #292 EPR-radar

The ghosts of Camelot may have helped with those votes.

Some, and the ghosts of all the kids on the SPLC’s monument:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 21, 2017 • 2:55:47pm

re: #295 Brian J.

That wouldn’t have been possible without the 1964 blowout, which in turn LBJ could never have won on his own and which JFK probably couldn’t have, either. (If you look at the history of Presidential approval ratings, JFK’s most closely resembles… George W. Bush’s, with a big boost from the Cuban Missile Crisis/ 9/11 and Gulf War that steadily decayed thereafter. He’d have likely won a narrow re-election, but without the sweep of new liberal Congressmen that made the Great Society possible, and he wasn’t really interested in big moves on the civil rights front anyway.)

As I understand, the trade-off for votes to support the Great Society was our involvement in Vietnam…leaving us to fight a two-front war, so to speak.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:01:02pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:01:20pm

She does always have a glass of whiskey in her hands

Elise Davis “Make The Kill”

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A Mom Anon  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:01:36pm

re: #283 EPR-radar

I don’t think we ever had to go the FOX/Limbaugh route, but perhaps there could have been a bigger challenge to keeping the news from becoming entertainment/profit driven. I get that money drives everything, there just has to be a way to defeat this madness besides squeaky clean goodness. There have been no challenging voices and nothing invested in a counter message to the crap spewed all over TV, print (and now the internet, which honestly has done a lot of damage here) and radio for decades. It’s hurt us, even the people who fall for it all daily.

I guess I’m just worn down and discouraged. I live in the district next to the 6th in GA and I am tired of being vilified and told I’m not a patriot and I’m wrong and on and on. I see no end in sight and it feels like Democrats just are not understanding the true depth of what we’re up against. I see it every day and it’s frightening.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:05:14pm
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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:06:04pm

re: #294 gocart mozart

What a sad and moody song this is

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Nice cover of an underappreciated song.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:06:21pm

re: #298 Stanley Sea

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:06:32pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:08:32pm

For a palate cleanser.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:09:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:10:25pm

this happened in Cincinnati this afternoon:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:12:17pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:12:21pm

Duolingo finally released English to Japanese on Android and iOS so I have finally installed that.

Figuring I’ll work on Russian too while I’m at it. And maybe Norwegian and Welsh.

…and my Spanish could totally use some review, and German could be useful, and…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:13:41pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

this happened in Cincinnati this afternoon:

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Well done Cincy.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:13:58pm

re: #300 A Mom Anon

I don’t think we ever had to go the FOX/Limbaugh route, but perhaps there could have been a bigger challenge to keeping the news from becoming entertainment/profit driven. I get that money drives everything, there just has to be a way to defeat this madness besides squeaky clean goodness. There have been no challenging voices and nothing invested in a counter message to the crap spewed all over TV, print (and now the internet, which honestly has done a lot of damage here) and radio for decades. It’s hurt us, even the people who fall for it all daily.

I guess I’m just worn down and discouraged. I live in the district next to the 6th in GA and I am tired of being vilified and told I’m not a patriot and I’m wrong and on and on. I see no end in sight and it feels like Democrats just are not understanding the true depth of what we’re up against. I see it every day and it’s frightening.

This business of money driving everything is something the Democrats really need to address. Everyone knows the US is functionally a plutocracy, and almost everyone is unhappy about that. Sanders making a real fight out of the (D) primary vs. Clinton and tr*mp crushing all the establishment GOP types in the (R) primary were both symptoms of that unhappiness, IMO

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:15:32pm

re: #283 EPR-radar

Everyone wants to hear things they find agreeable, but most Republicans are much more invested in this than most Democrats are. A Fox News of the left would find few customers, IMO, even it were designed to emit a better grade of propaganda by being truthful while attacking Republicans 365/24/7.

I agree. Democrats are more likely to verify information. We want the MSNBC nightly lineup where the stories/scandals have support in the real world — where stories will be abandoned or modified to reflect facts— and the hosts admit when they are in error. Fox has no such guidelines and neither does the President they support.

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KGxvi  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:15:58pm

re: #285 Brian J.

By having his predecessor get shot? LBJ was a brilliant politician, but I doubt very much he could have gotten elected President on his own without the ghosts of Camelot.

It’s impossible to game out how things change if JFK isn’t shot. We don’t know if he ramps up Vietnam (possible, even probable, but we don’t really know). We also don’t know how the rest of his presidency plays out with respect to Civil Rights. If Vietnam doesn’t happen (or happens differently), the protest movement and Chicago 1968 doesn’t happen (or happens differently). Maybe Nixon runs again in ‘64 instead of waiting for ‘68? As close as ‘60 was, maybe Nixon wins the rematch if the country had soured on Kennedy. If Nixon wins the rematch, maybe he’s not as paranoid as he was by ‘72. If Goldwater loses the ‘64 nomination to Nixon, Reagan may not rise in California (it was his speech in favor of Goldwater and about Medicare that really thrust him into the political spotlight).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:16:11pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:16:48pm

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tradition holds that Nur ad-Din Zangi built the mosque in 1172-73, shortly before his death. According to the chronicle of Ibn al-Athir, after Nur ad-Din took control of Mosul he ordered his nephew Fakhr al-Din to build the mosque

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Birth Control Works  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:16:49pm
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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:17:14pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

this happened in Cincinnati this afternoon:

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Do you know where it is, Sleuth? Hard to tell from the pic. (And I wonder what they’ll abbreviate it to when giving directions—A&O Way?)

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makeitstop  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:18:01pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

If nonexistent tapes are subpoenaed, what are the legal ramifications when the WH fails to turn over the nonexistent tapes?

I don’t know what the legal ramifications are, but Trump would have to go on the record acknowledging a lie.

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KGxvi  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:18:13pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

They have to admit under penalty of perjury that no such records exist. If they later turn out to exist, well, that’s another count of obstruction of justice. In both scenarios, Trump looks like a fool, again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:18:19pm

re: #317 BeachDem

Do you know where it is, Sleuth? Hard to tell from the pic. (And I wonder what they’ll abbreviate it to when giving directions—A&O Way?)

It’s on Mercer, between Vine and Walnut.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:18:22pm

bl

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:18:36pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:18:54pm

re: #316 Birth Control Works

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Not sure if sarc or serious.

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:20:26pm

re: #320 Birth Control Works

Spinal Tap - Gimme Some Money

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whitebeach  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:20:43pm

re: #215 Birth Control Works

We can thank LBJ for knowing how to get the votes.

Did it the old-fashioned way: If you’ve got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow. But then he was dumb enough to think that the same thing would work in Vietnam.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:21:49pm

re: #325 gocart mozart

I love the blazing, shredding solo in that.

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whitebeach  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:23:40pm

re: #277 gocart mozart

it’s noon somewhere.

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The question was whether it was too early for a beer. WTF does noon have to do with it?

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:23:55pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s on Mercer, between Vine and Walnut.

Ah, thanks.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:24:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:25:00pm

sad trombone…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:26:40pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

sad trombone…

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Clarke never shuts the fuck up does he?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:27:22pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

some of my fave responses:

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:30:23pm

Eartha loves the toilet. She drinks from it, drops things into it, fishes them out. I tell her, “Rubber bands don’t go in the toilet.” What does she do? Drops a rubber band in the toilet. Then fishes it out…then drops it in again…then fishes it out…so I take it away…she finds another. Then, at 3am, wet feet on my chest while I’m trying to sleep…she’s been playing in the toilet again.

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BeachDem  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:30:37pm

Wait. What the ever-loving fuck—

Journalists were told not to photograph the U.S. president’s son-in-law, and a photographer from the Associated Press was ordered to delete the images on his camera’s memory card.

It’s not clear from the Guardian report, or another published by The Times, who issued those orders to journalists covering the White House official’s government business trip.

rawstory.com

That is some serious bullshit right there.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:31:09pm

re: #332 HappyWarrior

Clarke never shuts the fuck up does he?

Clarke was too much of an unmitigated fractal fuck-up for the tr*mp administration.

The mind boggles.

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wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:31:32pm

The Kinks - No More Looking Back

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:32:21pm

re: #335 BeachDem

If I was a journalist I’d wifi my camera to an extra phone and have it upload in real time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:33:26pm

awwwwwwwww

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allegro  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:34:25pm

re: #338 darthstar

If I was a journalist I’d wifi my camera to an extra phone and have it upload in real time.

Google photos. All my stuff flies into the cloud automatically.

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darthstar  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:35:20pm

re: #340 allegro

Google photos. All my stuff flies into the cloud automatically.

Mine too. Love my googly phone.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:36:24pm

I guess I need to go do productive things. BBL.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:37:10pm

jeebus…what a call to have to make.

With water rushing around them, sailors aboard the beleaguered USS Fitzgerald faced an agonizing decision.

They had made several rescue attempts into the flooded portions of the 505-foot destroyer, which had collided off the coast of Japan with a much heavier container ship early morning Saturday. But they didn’t know how many of their fellow shipmates were still trapped inside or even alive, and time was running out.

The sailors either had to close off the flooded areas of the ship, or they feared the entire destroyer might go down, according to three active or former members of the Navy familiar with the incident.

They decided to seal the doors.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:47:48pm

Senate health-care draft repeals Obamacare taxes, provides bigger subsidies for low-income Americans than House bill

Senate leaders on Wednesday were putting the final touches on legislation that would reshape a big piece of the U.S. health-care system by dramatically rolling back Medicaid while easing the impact on Americans who stand to lose coverage under a new bill.

A discussion draft circulating Wednesday afternoon among aides and lobbyists would roll back the ACA’s taxes, phase down its Medicaid expansion, rejigger its subsidies, give states wider latitude in opting out of its regulations and eliminate federal funding for Planned Parenthood.

The bill largely mirrors the House measure that narrowly passed last month but with some significant changes. While the House legislation pegged federal insurance subsidies to age, the Senate bill would link them to income as the ACA does. The Senate proposal cuts off Medicaid expansion more gradually than the House bill, but would enact deeper long-term cuts to the health-care program for low-income Americans. It also removes language restricting federally-subsidized health plans from covering abortions, which may have run afoul of complex budget rules.

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austin_blue  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:49:19pm

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…what a call to have to make.

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No shit. That’s one that you sit down and have a good cry over after the emergency has been stabilized.

And the guy who issued the order? He’ll be “that guy” for the rest of his life, despite the fact that he probably saved the boat.

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:54:24pm

re: #328 whitebeach

The question was whether it was too early for a beer. WTF does noon have to do with it?

You shouldn’t drink in the a.m.

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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:54:57pm

re: #336 EPR-radar

Clarke was too much of an unmitigated fractal fuck-up for the tr*mp administration.

The mind boggles.

Nah. They already have their token black man in Carson. Otherwise Clarke would be just fine because they like fucked up minorities - it helps them hold their hate as being correct.

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blueraven  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:55:30pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:55:38pm

re: #346 gocart mozart

You shouldn’t drink in the a.m.

I don’t know. That doesn’t sound right.

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wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:56:27pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:57:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:57:45pm

re: #348 blueraven

!

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Dinesh, flailing for some attention.

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blueraven  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:58:05pm

re: #346 gocart mozart

You shouldn’t drink in the a.m.

Says who?

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whitebeach  Jun 21, 2017 • 3:58:47pm

re: #346 gocart mozart

You shouldn’t drink in the a.m.

I’ve read the Ten Commandments, the Constitution, and the rules of the USGA and the Royal and Ancient, and I haven’t seen a single thing like what you say here. Link?

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gocart mozart  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:04:25pm

Everything the illiminati and the trilateral commission and the freemasons didn’t want you to know about the DEEP STATE dumdumdum. This here is classic grade A 100% pure old fashioned crazy just like your granpappy liked it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:04:27pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:05:15pm
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blueraven  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:06:51pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dinesh, flailing for some attention.

I think he should get some. A lot, in fact. Why do these supposedly “intellectual conservatives” get away with this kind of shit? If it were a prominent Liberal voice, it would be all over cable news how THE LEFT is sooo intolerant.

We should not let them get away with this. Make conservatives defend him or denounce him…just like they do to us when it is something stupid from our side.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:11:05pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dinesh, flailing for some attention.

I tweeted to his wife that her husband is a felon. She blocked me.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:12:10pm

re: #358 blueraven

And while we’re at it, I would love to see him publicly answer for the shenanigans he and his pal Laura “Nazi Salute” Ingraham got up to at Dartmouth, outing gay students to their parents.
That was some grade-A assholery.
And now to see if I can ride my bicycle home without getting all sweaty. It’s only 82 out so should be no problem…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:13:07pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:13:30pm

re: #348 blueraven

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Once again, Republican racists (but I repeat myself) simply do not grasp just how deeply, DEEPLY racist their whole ‘Democratic Plantation” talking point is.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:14:33pm

re: #360 Jebediah, RBG

I can not stand that c u next tuesday.
huffingtonpost.com

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scottslemmons  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:14:38pm

re: #362 Blind Frog Belly White

Once again, Republican racists (but I repeat myself) simply do not grasp just how deeply, DEEPLY racist their whole ‘Democratic Plantation” talking point is.

I suspect a lot of them do grasp it, and they just don’t care, because they’re racists.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:14:41pm

re: #362 Blind Frog Belly White

Once again, Republican racists (but I repeat myself) simply do not grasp just how deeply, DEEPLY racist their whole ‘Democratic Plantation” talking point is.

They grasp it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:15:04pm

hey…that’s a picture of my eejit congresscritter:

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:16:18pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey…that’s a picture of my eejit congresscritter:

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J. Crewe Brigade.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:17:31pm

re: #367 Decatur Deb

J. Crewe Brigade.

the child haz no hips.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:19:33pm

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

the child haz no hips.

What keeps his Molle belt up?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:20:20pm

re: #358 blueraven

I think he should get some. A lot, in fact. Why do these supposedly “intellectual conservatives” get away with this kind of shit? If it were a prominent Liberal voice, it would be all over cable news how THE LEFT is sooo intolerant.

We should not let them get away with this. Make conservatives defend him or denounce him…just like they do to us when it is something stupid from our side.

The thing is, they all believe that.

They believe that black are too stupid to realize that Democrats have bought them off with ‘free stuff’ that is available to everybody and that less than half of them ever use.

They believe that blacks have been duped by Democrats into thinking that the police are pulling them over all the time, and shooting them far too often.

They believe that racism was dead in America before Obama.

They believe pointing out racial inequalities equals racism, and exacerbates race relations.

They believe that blacks are more advantaged than whites in America.

They believe that blacks are more dangerous than whites.

They believe blacks are the REAL racists.

They believe all this, but they think they’re not racist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:20:22pm

re: #369 Decatur Deb

What keeps his molle belt up?

libertarian bootstraps/invisible suspenders….

hey…I’m just spitballing now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:21:43pm

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

libertarian bootstraps/invisible suspenders….

hey…I’m just spitballing now.

The Invisible Hand Of The Market down his pants?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:22:15pm

re: #372 Blind Frog Belly White

The Invisible Hand Of The Market down his pants?

LOLOLOLOL!!!

ALL OF THE UPDINGS!

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:22:30pm

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

libertarian bootstraps/invisible suspenders….

hey…I’m just spitballing now.

Ah. Invisible Hand of the Market in his swimsuit area.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:23:24pm

re: #374 Decatur Deb

Ah. Invisible Hand of the Market in his swimsuit area.

Second Place gets steak knives.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:23:38pm

re: #365 Decatur Deb

They grasp it.

Some do. Most don’t, because, like Trump, they think American blacks all live in poverty-ridden urban hellscapes with hot-and-cold running gunfights, where you can’t go out for a loaf of bread without getting shot.

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blueraven  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:24:02pm

re: #370 Blind Frog Belly White

The thing is, they all believe that.

They believe that black are too stupid to realize that Democrats have bought them off with ‘free stuff’ that is available to everybody and that less than half of them ever use.

They believe that blacks have been duped by Democrats into thinking that the police are pulling them over all the time, and shooting them far too often.

They believe that racism was dead in America before Obama.

They believe pointing out racial inequalities equals racism, and exacerbates race relations.

They believe that blacks are more advantaged than whites in America.

They believe that blacks are more dangerous than whites.

They believe blacks are the REAL racists.

They believe all this, but they think they’re not racist.

Sure, I just want them to have to articulate that, in public, in front of cameras, with millions of people watching..

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:24:12pm

re: #372 Blind Frog Belly White

re: #374 Decatur Deb

It should scare me that you both thought of the exact same thing, down to the phrasing and (almost) capitalization. What the fuck is wrong with all of us.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:24:47pm

re: #378 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It should scare me that you both thought of the exact same thing, down to the phrasing and (almost) capitalization. What the fuck is wrong with all of us.

Great minds, same gutter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:24:56pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:25:05pm

re: #379 Blind Frog Belly White

Great minds, same gutter.

As a former cow-orker of mine once said, “Great minds think alike. So do ours.”

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:25:14pm

re: #378 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It should scare me that you both thought of the exact same thing, down to the phrasing and (almost) capitalization. What the fuck is wrong with all of us.

Inbreeding Noblesse.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:25:29pm

re: #377 blueraven

Sure, I just want them to have to articulate that, in public, in front of cameras, with millions of people watching..

Shit, they already did that. They called it the Republican National Convention.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:26:03pm

re: #378 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It should scare me that you both thought of the exact same thing, down to the phrasing and (almost) capitalization. What the fuck is wrong with all of us.

echo chamber……..

lolololol

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austin_blue  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:26:07pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey…that’s a picture of my eejit congresscritter:

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He looks like a twenty five year old dweeb. With pomade.

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blueraven  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:26:50pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Are they afraid of some DEATH PANELS! karma?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:27:27pm

re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth

echo chamber……..

lolololol

Echo Chamber!…Echo Chamber…Echo Chamber

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:27:34pm

re: #385 austin_blue

He looks like a twenty fiver year old dweeb. With pomade.

He’s 46…the rest of your observation is spot on.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:28:55pm

re: #348 blueraven

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Shut up Dinesh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:29:24pm

Massie is also afflicted with GOP humor-impairment:

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:30:14pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey…that’s a picture of my eejit congresscritter:

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Gee didn’t we hear after Sandy Hook and every other mass shooting that actually got peole killed that it was “too soon” to discuss gun laws. Guess this is different somehow. Fuckers.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:30:37pm

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

Massie is also afflicted with GOP humor-impairment:

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GOP humor is so stupid.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:35:35pm

re: #392 HappyWarrior

GOP humor is so stupid.

HAHAHAHAHA! A hostile foreign power trying to hack into our election systems to get one particular candidate elected is so such a funny thing!! HAHAHAHA!

You know, much as I hate counterfactuals, I think it’s pretty clear that if the shoe were on the other foot, the Right would already be working on a do-over of the election, and although Dems would rightly resist, we’d support investigating it.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:36:30pm

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:38:06pm

re: #394 Stanley Sea

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He will read only the front page portion and brag about it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:39:26pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:39:42pm

re: #274 gocart mozart

Apparently John Schlitt (Singer) is big in the “Christian Rock” scene en.wikipedia.org
Sekelow seemed like he was playing one note over and over.

One note over and over is ok as long as it’s “Cinnamon Girl.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:40:26pm

I’m getting real tired of this shit.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:43:46pm

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Message to the people who sent death threats to Kim Weaver.

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stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:46:01pm

re: #381 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

As a former cow-orker of mine once said…

Can people actually admit to doing that?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:47:55pm

re: #400 stpaulbear

Can people actually admit to doing that?

Depends what state you live in.

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austin_blue  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:48:01pm

re: #400 stpaulbear

Can people actually admit to doing that?

I had a summer job in high school as a cow-orker. It required a deft and delicate hand, or you would get kicked in the face.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:48:03pm

re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But you know what has wingnuts OUTRAGED!!!!!

Obama collecting a Presidential pension. Trump’s literally enriching himself at our expense, using his office to advertise for his properties, and spending several times Obama’s yearly pension every weekend he goes golfing, but they’re outraged that Obama’s collecting a pension.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:49:02pm

Better give birth soon, if you want that to happen.

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:51:09pm

100% Pure Send. Wait for it….

Jet Boat Jumps Over Land

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Decatur Deb  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:51:19pm

re: #402 austin_blue

I had a summer job in high school as a cow-orker. It required a deft and delicate hand, or you would get kicked in the face.

You filched dollar bills from pole dancers?

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:51:36pm

Forgot to mention that today is my birthday, 68 years young.

Not only was I born on the summer solstice, but also within sight of Stonehenge (if you climb a tall steeple or something).
Years ago, I briefly dated a girl who thought I must have some sort of super paranormal powers as a result. She was very disappointed when I told her that I was a rationalist and did not believe in such things.
She eventually announced that she and her New Age group were going to Peru to meet some UFOs that were slated to arrive at a sacred Inca harmonic convergence zone and landing field. There was even a rumor that Jesus Christ would arrive with them. I told her to be sure and get pictures. She exploded and announced that she was fed up with my cynicism. I was closed off, closed minded, missing the truth of the universe, out of touch with reality. I responded, “Okay, you’re going to Peru to meet UFOs but I am out of touch with reality?” and the split was finalized.

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stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:51:52pm

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

He will read only the front page portion and brag about it.

What Trump reads:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:53:27pm

re: #407 Shiplord Kirel

And so was born the age-old adage, “Don’t stick your dick in crazy.” Or for the female variety, I suppose, don’t let crazy stick its dick in you.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:53:47pm

re: #398 Blind Frog Belly White

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I’m getting real tired of this shit.

Me too. Who give a shit about what works in GOP ads to the fucking pig-people? Anyone else in Pelosi’s position who was at all useful for Democrats would have been portrayed as Satan Incarnate for 30 years by Fox News, and the same damn GOP ads would work just as well vs. Democrat X as they do against Pelosi.

The same thing is true of the multi-decade GOP smear campaign vs. Hillary Clinton.

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scottslemmons  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:53:54pm

re: #407 Shiplord Kirel

Forgot to mention that today is my birthday, 68 years young.

Not only was I born on the summer solstice, but also within sight of Stonehenge (if you climb a tall steeple or something).
Years ago, I briefly dated a girl who thought I must have some sort of super paranormal powers as a result. She was very disappointed when I told her that I was a rationalist and did not believe in such things.
She eventually announced that she and her New Age group were going to Peru to meet some UFOs that were slated to arrive at a sacred Inca harmonic convergence zone and landing field. There was even a rumor that Jesus Christ would arrive with them. I told her to be sure and get pictures. She exploded and announced that she was fed up with my cynicism. I was closed off, closed minded, missing the truth of the universe, out of touch with reality. I responded, “Okay, you’re going to Peru to meet UFOs but I am out of touch with reality?” and the split was finalized.

Or maaaaaaybe you never heard from her again because she was taken to live in Interstellar Paradise by Lord Kimbote and the Space Brothers, hmmm? ;)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:53:59pm

re: #398 Blind Frog Belly White

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I’m getting real tired of this shit.

So do they have any better ideas for leaders? Sick of this shit too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:54:00pm

re: #401 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Depends what state you live in.

pretty sure it’s legal in, say, Iowa…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:54:36pm

re: #411 EPR-radar

Me too. Who give a shit about what works in GOP ads to the fucking pig-people? Anyone else in Pelosi’s position who was at all useful for Democrats would have been portrayed as Satan Incarnate for 30 years by Fox News, and the same damn GOP ads would work just as well vs. Democrat X as they do against Pelosi.

The same thing is true of the multi-decade GOP smear campaign vs. Hillary Clinton.

Gee, what do those two have in common…..

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:55:12pm

re: #411 EPR-radar

Me too. Who give a shit about what works in GOP ads to the fucking pig-people? Anyone else in Pelosi’s position who was at all useful for Democrats would have been portrayed as Satan Incarnate for 30 years by Fox News, and the same damn GOP ads would work just as well vs. Democrat X as they do against Pelosi.

The same thing is true of the multi-decade GOP smear campaign vs. Hillary Clinton.

Exactly. Obama became Satan to the GOP base just as easy as the Clintons did. If Tim Ryan who I have nothing against at all, if his supporters think he wouldn’t become the same boogeyman, well I got some beachfront property in Wyoming to sell them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:55:29pm

re: #407 Shiplord Kirel

Forgot to mention that today is my birthday, 68 years young.

I’m right behind ya…I’ll be 65 on Saturday.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 21, 2017 • 4:55:33pm

For motherfucking fuck’s sake, I hope this is fake:
[Trump admin starts inquiries into Clinton emails]
“As international crises brew and tensions skyrocket across the world, one would think that the United States State Department - left critically understaffed by a President who would rather rely on his unqualified family members to conduct diplomacy - has their plate full.

Trump’s new friend, King Salman of Saudi Arabia, just upended the line of succession in an unprecedented move in a doubling down on the campaign to isolate Qatar and their disastrous war in Yemen. North Korea is testing missiles with alarming regularity. The United States has shot down a Syrian regime jet fighter and two drones in defense of our allies leading the charge against ISIS and Russia has threatened to begin shooting down our planes.

But given the way that the Trump administration has been drunkenly stumbling from one disaster to the next without a care for the consequences, one can hardly be surprised that Rex Tillerson’s State Department has decided this would be a good time to open another investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private email server.

FOX News has jubilantly announced that a formal inquiry has been opened into whether or not Clinton and her aides mishandled classified information while she was Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013 in an attempt to strip her of her security clearance, as confirmed by Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA) of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Grassley’s committee is also conducting its own inquiry. When pressed for comment, Grassley dutifully recited the holy Republican Litany Of How Hillary Clinton Was Extremely Careless In Her Handling Of Very Sensitive, Highly Classified Information that we’ve all heard a thousand times before.

The hypocrisy is so obscene it transgresses comprehension, given that President Trump has treated our nation’s classified information with all the care of a gossipy schoolboy.”

washingtonjournal.com

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:00:48pm

re: #415 Blind Frog Belly White

Gee, what do those two have in common…..

Any man in their positions would have also been demonized by the GOP. The differences would be:

1) GOP attacks vs. Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi usually have heaping doses of misogyny because the Republicans just can’t help themselves. Bigots gotta be bigots.

2) More annoyingly, the weak of mind and spine on team (D) seem more likely to go along with GOP lies and bullshit (or with random other bullshit as in the (D) primary) if it is vs. a woman than a man.

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wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:04:49pm

re: #407 Shiplord Kirel

Forgot to mention that today is my birthday, 68 years young.

Shared b-day with Ray Davies. I hope it’s happy for both of you!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:06:54pm

re: #419 EPR-radar

Any man in their positions would have also been demonized by the GOP. The differences would be:

1) GOP attacks vs. Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi usually have heaping doses of misogyny because the Republicans just can’t help themselves. Bigots gotta be bigots.

2) More annoyingly, the weak of mind and spine on team (D) seem more likely to go along with GOP lies and bullshit (or with random other bullshit as in the (D) primary) if it is vs. a woman than a man.

I sometimes despair for this country when I think just how effective GOP attacks on the Obamas, Hillary Clinton, or Nancy Pelosi are in garnering support from their followers. It’s clear that the reason they’re so hated is that they’re ‘Other’, and they’re good at their jobs. I hate that racism and misogyny work so well.

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calochortus  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:07:00pm

re: #418 Barefoot Grin

Clinton is still getting classified information? I mean, what would be the point of removing her security clearance?

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Dave In Austin  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:09:07pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:12:15pm

re: #335 BeachDem

Wait. What the ever-loving fuck—

Journalists were told not to photograph the U.S. president’s son-in-law, and a photographer from the Associated Press was ordered to delete the images on his camera’s memory card.

It’s not clear from the Guardian report, or another published by The Times, who issued those orders to journalists covering the White House official’s government business trip.

rawstory.com

That is some serious bullshit right there.

Trump has asked Kushner, a former real estate developer with no previous government experience, to lay the groundwork for the “ultimate deal” to secure peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

JARED: I will build a casino in Gaza!

JARED: I will build a golf course in the Negev!

HAMAS: Who is this douche bag?

ISRAEL: That’s President Trump’s son in law. He’s a dick.

HAMAS: What, you don’t like him?

ISRAEL: No, fuck that guy.

HAMAS: What is he even doing here?

ISRAEL: Trying to get us to give him money.

HAMAS: Fuck him.

ISRAEL: Yeah, help us make him go away.

HAMAS: We should talk about that. You have ideas?

ISRAEL: Let’s talk about it.

PEACE TALKS ACHIEVED!!!!!

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retired cynic  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:14:43pm

re: #417 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m right behind ya…I’ll be 65 on Saturday.

You’re both youngsters! I’m 69.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:14:45pm

re: #422 calochortus

Clinton is still getting classified information? I mean, what would be the point of removing her security clearance?

Apparently it is normal for former senior officials to retain their clearances for some time. For example, a new secretary of state might want to consult with a previous SoS about some ongoing mess.

Now, the idea that anyone in the tr*mp administration would actually consider doing something intelligent like that when appropriate is completely ludicrous. After all, that would involve doing their job, which is inconceivable for Republican barbarians.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:16:06pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:16:09pm

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…what a call to have to make.

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Just imagine if a Democrat was President. Republicans would be calling for “Fitzgerald investigations!!!!!” for years and years.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:16:39pm

re: #422 calochortus

Clinton is still getting classified information? I mean, what would be the point of removing her security clearance?

Petty hatred and revenge are what they’re really good at. Governing? Not so much.

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stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:18:24pm

re: #420 wrenchwench

Shared b-day with Ray Davies. I hope it’s happy for both of you!

Ray Davies would never confess to being happy.

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calochortus  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:18:32pm

re: #429 Blind Frog Belly White

Petty hatred and revenge are what they’re really good at. Governing? Not so much.

And distraction. Don’t forget distraction.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:21:48pm

re: #428 The Vicious Babushka

Just imagine if a Democrat was President. Republicans would be calling for “Fitzgerald investigations!!!!!” for years and years.

We don’t need to have a Democratic president for this kind of nonsense. As soon as some dimwit on Fox News or RWNJ radio thinks to lie that Obama or Hillary Clinton was personally aboard the Fitzgerald and caused the collision, it will propagate everywhere and become an article of wingnut faith.

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stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:23:06pm

re: #417 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m right behind ya…I’ll be 65 on Saturday.

I’m two years behind you. I turn 63 on Saturday.

I’m trying to decide how much a 63 year old guy gets to spend on a birthday present to himself…

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calochortus  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:25:50pm

re: #433 stpaulbear

I’m two years behind you. I turn 63 on Saturday.

I’m trying to decide how much a 63 year old guy gets to spend on a birthday present to himself…

Whatever you’d like. 63 is otherwise an uneventful age. Along with 61. 60 is a milestone, 62 you can get your old person National Parks pass, 64 is “will you still need me, will you still feed me?” and of course, 65 is Medicare.

Make 63 memorable in its own right!

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Dave In Austin  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:26:54pm

re: #434 calochortus

Still going to have to work until I die…….

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Stanley Sea  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:27:24pm

I think it’s fair to call him a nazi.

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calochortus  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:28:41pm

re: #435 Dave In Austin

Still going to have to work until I die…….

I don’t think I mentioned retiring anywhere on that list… But I do hope you get to do it in a timely fashion.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:29:07pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:29:16pm

re: #435 Dave In Austin

Still going to have to work until I die…….

I’m working very hard to ensure that doesn’t happen, but I’m still worried as heck about it. Especially under the assumption that Social Security won’t be a thing by the time I get there.

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stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:30:00pm

re: #434 calochortus

Whatever you’d like. 63 is otherwise an uneventful age. Along with 61. 60 is a milestone, 62 you can get your old person National Parks pass, 64 is “will you still need me, will you still feed me?” and of course, 65 is Medicare.

Make 63 memorable in its own right!

For me 63 is totally “two more years until retirement’. The light at the end of the tunnel is starting to flicker. I’m hoping the end of the tunnel hasn’t collapsed by the time I get there. Fuck Trump and the republicans.

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calochortus  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:30:35pm

re: #439 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m working very hard to ensure that doesn’t happen, but I’m still worried as heck about it. Especially under the assumption that Social Security won’t be a thing by the time I get there.

I think it is unlikely SS will go away. Always best to plan your finances without it, but older people vote. They do not wish to lose their SS.

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:30:59pm

re: #407 Shiplord Kirel

Happy Birthday Shiplord Kirel!

You’re one year off from that ‘cool’ age, if you know what I mean. *wink wink* *nudge nudge*

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meteor  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:31:25pm

For the birfdee pipples! (This is not my birdie.)

My parrot wishes you a Happy Birthday

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:32:10pm

re: #438 Charles Johnson

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It’s also curious since they insisted not to rush after Sandy Hook and Giffords.

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retired cynic  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:34:03pm

re: #442 teleskiguy

Happy Birthday Shiplord Kirel!

You’re one year off from that ‘cool’ age, if you know what I mean. *wink wink* *nudge nudge*

Hey!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:35:05pm
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stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:35:51pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:35:54pm

THIS FUCKING ASSHOLE IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

Sorry for shouting. Sometimes it just hits me again how fucked up this situation really is.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:35:55pm

re: #446 Charles Johnson

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WTF but hey he’s not an elitist.//

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:37:05pm

re: #448 Charles Johnson

THIS FUCKING ASSHOLE IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

Sorry for shouting. Sometimes it just hits me again how fucked up this situation really is.

I know. It sucks so much. Our last president really represented our country in the best of ways. This tool is everything foreigners hate about us.

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:37:05pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:40:10pm

I have identified the new “Don’t go in the basement!” in the techno/hacking/thriller genre. You know, the simple thing anyone would think to do that somehow the protagonists never think to do.

First, I’m sure almost everything in these things is bullshit, much the way I know that all the Biotechno Thrillers are bullshit. Felicity Smoak may be smart as a whip, but unless everyone leaves ‘password’ as their password, the “I’m at the firewall…I’m in!” is nuts.

The other day, I was watching “Jason Bourne”, where the CIA cyber specialist tracks first Nicki, then Bourne, and ultimately wipes the files that Nicki died to get to Bourne.

She tracks Bourne because he plugs in the thumbdrive Nicki gave him, into a computer connected to the internet. She hacks into his computer through a phone on the same WiFi (I suppose) and deletes the files from the thumb drive.

Okay, so 1) Why does the hacker guy plug the thumbdrive into a computer that’s connected to the internet? As soon as he does, it sends a signal to Langley. What kind of hacker would be so dumb?

2) Why not copy the contents of the thumb drive to the computer, and unplug the thumb drive?

I know, I know - suspend your disbelief. But still! If this shit were that easy, the Russians wouldn’t have to send phishing emails to get Podesta’s emails.

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:41:30pm

Pathological liar.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:41:32pm

re: #451 teleskiguy

He has a point in that our current energy storage mechanisms aren’t really compatible with a 100% switch to dynamic (wind/solar) renewable energy sources. However, that is merely a matter of technological development, and as a supplemental power source, both wind and solar are reliable enough and certainly plentiful enough, with proper planning. (Read: Put wind farms on the plains, and solar farms in the desert.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:42:14pm

re: #434 calochortus

Whatever you’d like. 63 is otherwise an uneventful age. Along with 61. 60 is a milestone, 62 you can get your old person National Parks pass, 64 is “will you still need me, will you still feed me?” and of course, 65 is Medicare.

Make 63 memorable in its own right!

I found out this week that I’ve qualified for the Senior Menu at Heidi’s Pies in San Mateo for 4 years now!

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calochortus  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:43:00pm

re: #455 Blind Frog Belly White

Congratulations!!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:43:15pm

re: #451 teleskiguy

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Climate. How does it fucking work?

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:44:04pm

re: #438 Charles Johnson

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I have the image of these people being stuck in Chinese finger puzzles and never being able to get out.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:44:12pm

re: #453 jaunte

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Pathological liar.

He can’t stop lying. And his brain dead supporters buy all of it.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:44:27pm

re: #363 Ace Rothstein

“Changed her views” when her brother came out… typical rightwing asshole!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:44:35pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:44:53pm

re: #461 Charles Johnson

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Oh, come on, Charles. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:45:20pm

re: #448 Charles Johnson

THIS FUCKING ASSHOLE IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

Sorry for shouting. Sometimes it just hits me again how fucked up this situation really is.

And this menace is kept there by Congressional Republicans who are also fucking assholes.

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:45:22pm

re: #451 teleskiguy

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What you fail to realize is that trump has to constantly think “breathe in, breathe out.” It doesn’t happen automatically for him.

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:45:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:46:36pm

re: #460 Jebediah, RBG

“Changed her views” when her brother came out… typical rightwing asshole!

That’s the modern conservative mindset. They don’t give two shits until it effects them or someone they love.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:46:57pm

re: #465 jaunte

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Lying fuck.

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:47:26pm

Whoops.

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:48:03pm
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stpaulbear  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:48:34pm

re: #455 Blind Frog Belly White

I found out this week that I’ve qualified for the Senior Menu at Heidi’s Pies in San Mateo for 4 years now!

Did you know there’s a senior discount on the all-you-can-eat buffet at KFC? I bet Trump does.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:48:58pm

All he does is lie and create false reality for his cult.

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:48:58pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:49:27pm

Makes you wonder where Trump would be if he’d been born into a poor family…

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:49:32pm

re: #470 stpaulbear

Did you know there’s a senior discount on the all-you-can-eat buffet at KFC? I bet Trump does.

*gorkas into bucket*

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:49:39pm

re: #472 teleskiguy

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He’s such a fraud and these people are complicit.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:50:00pm

re: #473 Eclectic Cyborg

Makes you wonder where Trump would if he’d been born into a poor family…

Such a travesty could never come to pass. The Dear Leader was, is, and always shall be rich, in every reality.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:50:01pm

re: #473 Eclectic Cyborg

Makes you wonder where Trump would if he’d been born into a poor family…

Meth dealer. I take that back, meth addict.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:50:35pm

re: #454 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He has a point in that our current energy storage mechanisms aren’t really compatible with a 100% switch to dynamic (wind/solar) renewable energy sources. However, that is merely a matter of technological development, and as a supplemental power source, both wind and solar are reliable enough and certainly plentiful enough, with proper planning. (Read: Put wind farms on the plains, and solar farms in the desert.)

“The wind only blows sometimes here, so wind power is stupid!”

Wingnut thinking requires that every solution for conservation must be completely, totally, universally applicable, or they’re completely worthless.

E.g. the Prius: “I have to haul big loads of plywood and wallboard every day, and you can’t do that in a Prius, so they’re stupid and useless!”

Or the shorter range EVs: “I commute 70 miles a day, and the range is only 60 miles! They’re stupid and useless!”

Because nobody in the world DOESN’T haul big loads of plywood and wall board, and EVERYBODY lives more than 30 miles from work.

479
jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:51:23pm

re: #473 Eclectic Cyborg

Makes you wonder where Trump would if he’d been born into a poor family…

He’d be a whiner no matter what.

480
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:52:47pm

re: #478 Blind Frog Belly White

“The wind only blows sometimes here, so wind power is stupid!”

Wingnut thinking requires that every solution for conservation must be completely, totally, universally applicable, or they’re completely worthless.

E.g. the Prius: “I have to haul big loads of plywood and wallboard every day, and you can’t do that in a Prius, so they’re stupid and useless!”

Or the shorter range EVs: “I commute 70 miles a day, and the range is only 60 miles! They’re stupid and useless!”

Because nobody in the world DOESN’T haul big loads of plywood and wall board, and EVERYBODY lives more than 30 miles from work.

Yeah, I get it. Remember, I’m used to wingnut-think. Every one of those new technologies has its niche. If you aren’t in the niche, don’t use the new technology. Another new one will probably be along shortly to fill your niche, if you’re patient and not stupid. But if you tell wingnuts that, they stare at you like you’re growing antennae out of your head, then call you a pinko commie librul and meander off, scratching themselves.

481
HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:53:11pm

re: #479 jaunte

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He’d be a whiner no matter what.

Yeah Donald you care so much about gays and women. Just stop fucking whining, you pathetic baby. Oh and Obama did the Iran deal to prevent them from getting nukes. But you’d know that if you actually paid attention instead of having your head up your ass all day reading Breitbart and watching Fox and Friends tell you how great you are even though you’re a pathetic fraud.

482
HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:54:26pm

Nothing more pathetic than a man who made Mike Pence his running mate feignign concern for LGBT people and women.

483
Jack Burton  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:54:30pm

re: #479 jaunte

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He’d be a whiner no matter what.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:54:54pm
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calochortus  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:55:06pm

re: #478 Blind Frog Belly White

“The wind only blows sometimes here, so wind power is stupid!”

Wingnut thinking requires that every solution for conservation must be completely, totally, universally applicable, or they’re completely worthless.

E.g. the Prius: “I have to haul big loads of plywood and wallboard every day, and you can’t do that in a Prius, so they’re stupid and useless!”

Or the shorter range EVs: “I commute 70 miles a day, and the range is only 60 miles! They’re stupid and useless!”

Because nobody in the world DOESN’T haul big loads of plywood and wall board, and EVERYBODY lives more than 30 miles from work.

I once went around and around a few times with someone who thought hybrid cars were pointless because they weigh more and that affects the mileage.
OK, my Prius gets 49 mpg with all those batteries on board. Unlike our non-hybrid.
But it would get better mileage without all that extra weight, so it’s a bad idea.
My Prius gets 49 mpg with all those batteries on board.

Rinse, Repeat.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:55:36pm

re: #484 Charles Johnson

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He can’t Charles. He’s a pathological liar who has created a false reality for a good 40% of our country.

487
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:55:40pm

re: #482 HappyWarrior

Nothing more pathetic than a man who made Mike Pence his running mate feignign concern for LGBT people and women.

Oh yes,
it’s time for my favorite meme again.
488
EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:56:22pm

re: #478 Blind Frog Belly White

“The wind only blows sometimes here, so wind power is stupid!”

Wingnut thinking requires that every solution for conservation must be completely, totally, universally applicable, or they’re completely worthless.

E.g. the Prius: “I have to haul big loads of plywood and wallboard every day, and you can’t do that in a Prius, so they’re stupid and useless!”

Or the shorter range EVs: “I commute 70 miles a day, and the range is only 60 miles! They’re stupid and useless!”

Because nobody in the world DOESN’T haul big loads of plywood and wall board, and EVERYBODY lives more than 30 miles from work.

It’s just excuse-making. No thinking is needed. For these people, their deliberate ignorance is better than the knowledge of any number of experts.

It is completely impossible for this country to be governed rationally while this kind of non-thought is so prevalent.

489
HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:56:28pm

re: #487 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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Makes you wonder if they voted for him and Trump n part to get rid of him.

490
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:56:32pm

re: #473 Eclectic Cyborg

Makes you wonder where Trump would be if he’d been born into a poor family…

Either running a detailing business, or a bunch of casinos, depending on whether Marty got the Sports Almanac back from him.

491
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:56:36pm

re: #485 calochortus

I once went around and around a few times with someone who thought hybrid cars were pointless because they weigh more and that affects the mileage.
OK, my Prius gets 49 mpg with all those batteries on board. Unlike our non-hybrid.
But it would get better mileage without all that extra weight, so it’s a bad idea.
My Prius gets 49 mpg with all those batteries on board.

Rinse, Repeat.

My Chevy Sonic - basically a hybrid without the electric - gets 41 mpg on its best day. Argument refuted.

492
Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:58:19pm

re: #453 jaunte

Trump falsely says he put a “handwritten” clause in the Keystone XL executive order requiring American steel.

Handwritten with invisible ink?

493
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:58:41pm

re: #473 Eclectic Cyborg

Makes you wonder where Trump would be if he’d been born into a poor family…

Scamming rubes at the mall with the “pigeon drop”

494
HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:58:47pm

In the end, I think that’s the thing that infuriates me about this bastard the most. He lies and creates false reality. He lies about stuff so easily disproven but because our right wing is full of stupid morons who think our last President was a secret Muslim agent trying to destroy America, they don’t give a fuck that he lies to their face. These fuckers deserve Trump. Too bad the rest of us don’t.

495
Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:59:12pm
496
HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 5:59:57pm

re: #495 Charles Johnson

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He really is mentally disturbed.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:00:02pm

This country is in so much fucking trouble with this guy in charge. It still just blows my mind to think about it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:00:35pm

re: #495 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

There’s a reason they put solar panels on the roof, or on the ground, and not on the wall.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:00:37pm

re: #497 Charles Johnson

This country is in so much fucking trouble with this guy in charge. It still just blows my mind to think about it.

If I weren’t on Lexapro, I’d be going nuts. It’s already frustrating as is on the stuff.

500
teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:01:05pm

For an AP Government class, supposedly.

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Jack Burton  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:01:10pm

re: #492 Timothy Watson

Handwritten with invisible ink?

“I saw it! I was there. I saw it all. He reached up with his tiny orange hand and he signed it in his own derp. …and he did it with this pen. Hello, Vinny. It’s your Uncle Bingo. Time to pay the check.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:01:12pm

re: #496 HappyWarrior

He really is mentally disturbed.

I don’t know about mentally disturbed, but he really is as dumb as a stump.

503
EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:01:14pm

re: #482 HappyWarrior

Nothing more pathetic than a man who made Mike Pence his running mate feignign concern for LGBT people and women.

We are not fooled. People tend to recognize deadly threats, and Mike Pence is such a threat to every LGBT person in America. He’s also a mortal threat to any woman who will not submit to a Handmaid’s Tale style theocracy.

The Quislings of GOProud and the Log Cabin Republicans see this as well as anyone does. They are sociopathic enough to prefer their tax cuts to other people lives and stupid enough to think Pence et al. will spare them when the time comes for the autos da fe.

504
calochortus  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:01:17pm

re: #498 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a reason they put solar panels on the roof, or on the ground, and not on the wall.

He’ll just mount them on the south side of the wall. What could go wrong with that?

505
jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:01:44pm

re: #498 Blind Frog Belly White

Trump can bury the solar panels in the fairways of his golf courses, so they don’t spoil the view.

506
Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:02:19pm
507
calochortus  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:02:57pm

And I have been informed that the chicken has been grilled and is ready for consumption. (No it did not reveal any information when grilled.)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:02:57pm

re: #500 teleskiguy

For an AP Government class, supposedly.

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Bet this gets silence from those who insist that academia is liberally biased. Michael Savage, really?

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jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:03:19pm
510
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:03:30pm

re: #506 Jebediah, RBG

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No! We need to replace her with a feckless goober like Paul Ryan!
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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:03:36pm

re: #485 calochortus

There’s a reason that there are small, midsize, large, CUV, SUV (s/m/l), wagons, pickups (s/m/l), sports cars, etc. Each has merits and value to the consumer for specific situations. Small car might get good gas mileage and is affordable entry car. Wagon might be good for hauling the kids and has moderate gas mileage. Hybrid midsize gives great fuel economy for commuter, but doesn’t help someone who is hauling 4x8 plywood to a worksite, which is why their other car is a F-150 pickup when it’s not busy trashing banjos.

It’s the same way that getting to an efficient home/building can take many forms - higher insulation, reflective materials, absorbent materials, HVAC options, windows, interior design, fixtures, etc. LEED ratings take 100s of factors into account, including recycling materials that are used in the construction phase.

Paris was like either strategy - countries were free to get to a reduction, and could use any method they saw fit.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:04:27pm

re: #506 Jebediah, RBG

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Exactly. They’re going to say shit about whoever our leader in Congress is. So sick of lefties falling for the right’s bullshit.

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EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:04:32pm

re: #500 teleskiguy

If real, that’s the Fox News version of a civics class. It would be the easiest class ever for a student. Every essay assignment could be answered with “Democrats are uniquely evil and should be exterminated. PS They are all Jews” for an A+ every time.

514
Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:05:24pm

re: #508 HappyWarrior

Bet this gets silence from those who insist that academia is liberally biased. Michael Savage, really?

Maybe the AP Biology course will make students read his homeopathy books.

515
HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:05:44pm

re: #513 EPR-radar

If real, that’s the Fox News version of a civics class. It would be the easiest class ever for a student. Every essay assignment could be answered with “Democrats are uniquely evil and should be exterminated. PS They are all Jews” for an A+ every time.

Indeed, just blame the left and government and it’s an easy A. I have no prolbem with a government class requiring some conservative books as long as they also include some liberal ones to balance out. Michael Savage meanwhile doesn’t belong in any government class.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:06:10pm

re: #514 Timothy Watson

Maybe the AP Biology course will make students read his homeopathy books.

Ha, maybe if Teach there is one of those guys who teaches both classes.

517
jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:06:45pm

“…and this way, Mexico will have to pay much… less… money…”

“it’s my idea..”

“…It would really *look* beautiful too…”

518
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:06:59pm

re: #507 calochortus

And I have been informed that the chicken has been grilled and is ready for consumption. (No it did not reveal any information when grilled.)

Well, if it didn’t squawk, you didn’t grill it well enough.

519
Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:07:34pm
520
HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:07:35pm

Also notice the amount of books shitting on black people for being Democrats. Yeah I’m sure the black kids in that class will love being forced to read Tom Sowell’s patronizing bulshit about how they’re like slaves for favoring a party that doesn’t blame them for all the nation’s crime.

521
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:07:50pm

re: #511 lawhawk

There’s a reason that there are small, midsize, large, CUV, SUV (s/m/l), wagons, pickups (s/m/l), sports cars, etc. Each has merits and value to the consumer for specific situations. Small car might get good gas mileage and is affordable entry car. Wagon might be good for hauling the kids and has moderate gas mileage. Hybrid midsize gives great fuel economy for commuter, but doesn’t help someone who is hauling 4x8 plywood to a worksite, which is why their other car is a F-150 pickup when it’s not busy trashing banjos.

It’s the same way that getting to an efficient home/building can take many forms - higher insulation, reflective materials, absorbent materials, HVAC options, windows, interior design, fixtures, etc. LEED ratings take 100s of factors into account, including recycling materials that are used in the construction phase.

Paris was like either strategy - countries were free to get to a reduction, and could use any method they saw fit.

Yeah, but you know, once the Government got their hands on Chrysler and GM, they stopped making anything but Chevy Volts!

That’s what my wingnut friends told me, anyway. Loudly, and insistently, with the firmness of absolute belief.

And not one of them will admit just how wildly wrong they were.

522
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:07:57pm

re: #517 jaunte

[Embedded content]

“…and this way, Mexico will have to pay much… less… money…”

“it’s my idea..”

“…It would really *look* beautiful too…”

Except surface area increases linearly with height, whereas cost is exponential. Good luck with that.

523
EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:08:07pm

re: #515 HappyWarrior

Indeed, just blame the left and government and it’s an easy A. I have no prolbem with a government class requiring some conservative books as long as they also include some liberal ones to balance out. Michael Savage meanwhile doesn’t belong in any government class.

Fucking Ann motherfucking Coulter is on that fucking reading list. That thing should be set on fire and crammed up this “teacher’s” ass while still flaming.

524
HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:08:24pm

re: #517 jaunte

[Embedded content]

“…and this way, Mexico will have to pay much… less… money…”

“it’s my idea..”

“…It would really *look* beautiful too…”

These cultists will buy him anything he says.

525
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:08:57pm

re: #521 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but you know, once the Government got their hands on Chrysler and GM, they stopped making anything but Chevy Volts!

That’s what my wingnut friends told me, anyway. Loudly, and insistently, with the firmness of absolute belief.

And not one of them will admit just how wildly wrong they were.

Just because they’re not making big 20-foot-long land yachts like the days of yore, which apparently are The One True American Car and every family must own such a dinosaur in order to be patriotic.

526
HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:09:17pm

re: #523 EPR-radar

Fucking Ann motherfucking Coulter is on that fucking reading list. That thing should be set on fire and crammed up this “teacher’s” ass while still flaming.

YEah that too.

527
jaunte  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:09:36pm

re: #522 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He’s a practical idiot and a sales genius.

528
teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:09:45pm

re: #520 HappyWarrior

Also notice the amount of books shitting on black people for being Democrats. Yeah I’m sure the black kids in that class will love being forced to read Tom Sowell’s patronizing bulshit about how they’re like slaves for favoring a party that doesn’t blame them for all the nation’s crime.

529
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:09:51pm

re: #509 jaunte

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The man is amazing! He managed to get it done two decades before he even ran for the Presidency!

////////////////////

530
FormerDirtDart  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:09:59pm
531
meteor  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:10:00pm

re: #468 teleskiguy

They had Twitter back then?

532
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:10:06pm

re: #527 jaunte

He’s a practical idiot and a sales genius.

I wouldn’t go that far. He’s good at peddling BS… to those who are already indoctrinated to receive it.

533
HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:10:23pm

Trump: I will announce legislation to ban liberalsim!

Trump supporters: Cheer

Trump: It’s going to be great. Believe me, no more Fake News and no more Democrats obstructing.

You can’t tell me that his supporters wouldn’t eat that shit up.

534
b.d.  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:10:27pm

re: #517 jaunte

[Embedded content]

“…and this way, Mexico will have to pay much… less… money…”

“it’s my idea..”

“…It would really *look* beautiful too…”

“The higher it goes, the more valuable it is”

Because it gets closer to the sun and can generate more power?

wtf?

535
Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:10:58pm

re: #433 stpaulbear

I’m two years behind you. I turn 63 on Saturday.

I’m trying to decide how much a 63 year old guy gets to spend on a birthday present to himself…

I officially declare that you may spend any amount that doesn’t jeopardize next month’s rent or mortgage. (There is wiggle room on that if it is a vintage guitar or amp. Or non-vintage.)

536
HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:11:03pm

re: #528 teleskiguy

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It’s such patronizing bullshit especially coming from people who think actual slavery’s horrors have been exaggerated.

537
Dave In Austin  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:11:15pm

re: #497 Charles Johnson

This country is in so much fucking trouble with this guy in charge. It still just blows my mind to think about it.

7 months ago things weren’t like this. Do you think America is better off now than you were 6 months ago??

(Fuck)\\

538
Wile E. Coyote's mom  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:11:21pm

Just came on and haven’t caught up on this thread. This just came over my FB feed. Seems now Ice is deporting Irishmen.

bostonglobe.com

539
EPR-radar  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:11:21pm

re: #500 teleskiguy

The only way this reading list could be any worse is if Main Kampf were on it.

540
Timothy Watson  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:11:37pm

re: #525 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Just because they’re not making big 20-foot-long land yachts like the days of yore, which apparently are The One True American Car and every family must own such a dinosaur in order to be patriotic.

Anyone who doesn’t have something the size of a Buick 225 is a Godless commie!

541
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:12:26pm

re: #540 Timothy Watson

Anyone who doesn’t have something the size of a Buick 225 is a Godless commie!

Here’s where the nutjobs’ heads will asplode, because I do have one. I just had my family (all four of us) out washing it earlier tonight.

542
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:13:04pm

re: #525 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Just because they’re not making big 20-foot-long land yachts like the days of yore, which apparently are The One True American Car and every family must own such a dinosaur in order to be patriotic.

(Psst! Don’t you own TWO of those?)
//////

Oh, that rolling bordello I wrote about a couple weeks back? 6 mpg city. COMBINED mpg of 11. 0-60 in something like 12 seconds. Did the quarter mile in 19 seconds.

All that with a 440 CID engine!

543
HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:13:43pm

re: #541 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Here’s where the nutjobs’ heads will asplode, because I do have one. I just had my family (all four of us) out washing it earlier tonight.

They really think we’re all Prius driving, Tye-Dye shirt wearing, bearded hippies. Not that there’s anything wrong with that but I only really apply to one of those four categories.

544
Cheechako  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:14:27pm

re: #504 calochortus

He’ll just mount them on the south side of the wall. What could go wrong with that?

All the electricity would belong to Mexico.

545
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:15:10pm

re: #542 Blind Frog Belly White

(Psst! Don’t you own TWO of those?)
//////

Oh, that rolling bordello I wrote about a couple weeks back? 6 mpg city. COMBINED mpg of 11. 0-60 in something like 12 seconds. Did the quarter mile in 19 seconds.

All that with a 440 CID engine!

I have only the one. Mrs. Fish’s daily driver is a ‘97, which, while an expansive luxury car compared to the current modern vintage, is quite a bit smaller than the beast, and is at least 100% more fuel efficient, to boot.

546
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:15:12pm

re: #530 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

1) Trump doesn’t realize it’s already the law.

2) Neither do his dumbfuck supporters.

3) They won’t believe you when you tell them, because they saw somebody brown with what looked like an EBT card a the Piggly Wiggly oncet.

547
Amory Blaine  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:16:02pm

re: #509 jaunte

Winning!

548
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:16:09pm

re: #543 HappyWarrior

They really think we’re all Prius driving, Tye-Dye shirt wearing, bearded hippies. Not that there’s anything wrong with that but I only really apply to one of those four categories.

I drive a Prius, and used to wear tie-dyes,, but I can’t grow a decent beard.

549
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:16:37pm

re: #545 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have only the one. Mrs. Fish’s daily driver is a ‘97, which, while an expansive luxury car compared to the current modern vintage, is quite a bit smaller than the beast, and is at least 100% more fuel efficient, to boot.

I still dream of that powder blue ‘66 Lincoln….

550
HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:17:35pm

re: #548 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I drive a Prius, and used to wear tie-dyes,, but I can’t grow a decent beard.

I have a beard. No license, haven’t worn a tie die in years and don’t really consider myself a hippie.

551
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:18:48pm

re: #549 Blind Frog Belly White

I still dream of that powder blue ‘66 Lincoln….

The navy blue ‘76 down at the local used car lot is still there. It’s been there for at least 3 weeks. It’s in beautiful shape, which makes me wonder if they’re simply asking too much for it. People seem confused about how little these big boats are really worth; there are a surprisingly large number of them, and they’re not really collectible with their size.

552
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:20:54pm

re: #550 HappyWarrior

I have a beard. No license, haven’t worn a tie die in years and don’t really consider myself a hippie.

I’m not a hippie. I like only having to buy gas once a month.

553
Jebediah, RBG  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:21:34pm

re: #490 Blind Frog Belly White

Either running a detailing business, or a bunch of casinos, depending on whether Marty got the Sports Almanac back from him.

The detailing business is mostly a front for his main job as the local fence. By cheating EVERYBODY he ensures that he does not make it to the age of 32.

554
lawhawk  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:21:50pm

re: #528 teleskiguy

Dinesh is up to his usual projection and nonsensical ravings. It’s what we’ve come to expect from the self-admitted convicted felon.

The GOP isn’t trying to speak for blacks let alone woo black voters. Weigel gets that wrong.

The GOP wants to send them back to the slums and demote them to second class citizens. We see that on a daily basis the way they dehumanize blacks, when they’re killed by cops for simply breathing, living, or engaging in daily activities that everyone else takes for granted.

We see it with how they’re attacking core institutions - voting rights, civil rights, justice system, and continuing to block/delay reforms of same.

We see it with their supporters who raise confederate flags and engaging in revisionist history about the civil war and its aftermath.

This is what the GOP intends. This is why they’ve gone all in with white supremacists. It’s why neo Nazis and white supremacists have embraced Trump and the GOP.

There’s no separation between them. Not when the GOP establishment continues to enable Trump and pushing policies that favor the positions of these extremists.

555
HappyWarrior  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:21:52pm

re: #552 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m not a hippie. I like only having to buy gas once a month.

What? Being overly reilent on gas doesn’t make you feel like more of a man!

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:26:18pm

re: #554 lawhawk

lawhawk, getting down to brass tax. You’re so good at that.

😊

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lawhawk  Jun 21, 2017 • 6:26:38pm

re: #528 teleskiguy

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calochortus  Jun 21, 2017 • 7:17:46pm

re: #544 Cheechako

All the electricity would belong to Mexico.

That was kind of my point.


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Illinois Senate Passes Measure Calling for Neo-Nazis to Be Classified as Terror Groups The Illinois Senate on Sunday approved a resolution calling for police to categorize neo-Nazi groups as terrorist organizations, according to the Chicago Tribune. The measure came as a response to Saturday's violence at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, ...
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AG Madigan Issues Guidelines for Responding to Sexual Assault Crimes “We took a comprehensive look at why sexual assault survivors rarely report their crimes to law enforcement, and it was clear that our criminal justice system can and must respond, investigate and better support survivors,” Illinois Attorney General Lisa ...
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Illinois Eliminates Statutes of Limitations on Child Sex Abuse Crimes Gov. Bruce Rauner on Friday signed into law a bill that eliminates statutes of limitations for all felony criminal sexual assault and sexual abuse crimes against children. Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan initiated the bill sponsored by Sen. Scott ...
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This 91-Year-Old Woman Just Earned Her Bachelor’s Degree After 10 Years of Studying The back-to-school commercials have started airing. The summer reading lists are coming due. It’s almost that time of year. And if students aren’t quite looking forward to getting back into their classrooms this month for another school year, the ...
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How (White) Women in the KKK Were Instrumental to Its Rise Although Klansmen outnumbered Klanswomen by 6 to 1, at least half a million women (some claimed as many as 3 million) joined the movement, and that doesn’t count the many who participated in its public events and supported its ...
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Give the Gift of LifeCJ was a good kid, he was a gentle soul. I could see a little of his mother and father in him. I didn't know we were alike in one way, that we were both addicts, until he was brain ...
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15 Product Trademarks That Have Become Victims of Genericization - Consumerist Sometimes, we hurt the ones we love. Which is why even if we didn’t mean to be so harsh, many products we use every day have become the victims of trademark genericization, meaning they’ve morphed from a single product ...
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Maggie Rogers - ‘Alaska’ (Electric Lady Sessions)wfuv.org • Follow @wfuv: ow.ly Maggie Roers performs "Alaska" live at Electric Lady Studios. Recorded 5.9.17. Host: Carmel HoltAudio: Phil JolyCameras: Mary Munshower, Sabrina Sitton, Kristen Riffert and Joanna LaPorteEditor: Mary Munshower
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Beth Ditto - We Could Run (Official Video)'We Could Run' from Beth Ditto's new solo album Fake Sugar is available everywhere now!bethditto.lnk.to Video directed by Mark Staubach and produced by Daniel Livschutz Connect with Beth: bethditto.cominstagram.comfacebook.comtwitter.com
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A New Type of Library in a Once-Abandoned Colorado Ranch Along the banks of the South Platte River in Colorado, against the backdrop of the Rocky Mountains, an idea is beginning to take shape. It’s a live-in library, a place where books and nature and history come together, and ...
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