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Dave In Austin  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:03:09pm

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:16:16pm

Boy, I bet the American Embassy in Mexico City is a fun place to be right now!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:19:48pm

Bill Cosby to hold a series of “town halls” to “educate” people on what sexual assault “actually” is.
aol.com

“Laws are changing. The statute of limitations for victims of sexual assault are being extended. So this is why people need to be educated,” added spokeswoman Ebonee Benson. “A brush against the shoulder, anything at this point, can be considered sexual assault and it’s a good thing to be educated about the laws.”

Barf.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:21:30pm

‘bout time.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:21:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:22:21pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

Bill Cosby to hold a series of “town halls” to “educate” people on what sexual assault “actually” is.
aol.com

Barf.

Jesus.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:22:39pm

re: #4 Ace-o-aces

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‘bout time.

Well earned, Al!

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:25:06pm

re: #4 Ace-o-aces

30 large up front and some rigorous stipulations.

How to get a Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame | Time

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Targetpractice  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:27:26pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

Bill Cosby to hold a series of “town halls” to “educate” people on what sexual assault “actually” is.
aol.com

Barf.

This is like OJ offering “town halls” to “educate” people on homicide laws.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:29:04pm

re: #9 Targetpractice

This is like OJ offering “town halls” to “educate” people on homicide laws.

I was literally about to post the same thing.

It’s also like police officers holding “town halls” to “educate” black people on the importance of respecting authority.

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Targetpractice  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:29:50pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

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30 large up front and some rigorous stipulations.

How to get a Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame | Time

$30K to help Bruce get a star? Where do I donate?

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:32:20pm

Speaking of the Hollywood Walk of Fame…

Trump Hollywood Star Destroyed

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freetoken  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:38:24pm

A recent lecture and conversation with Lawrence Kraus:

An Evening With Lawrence Krauss & Matt Dillahunty

The lecture itself is not well shot by the camera person, but the conversation is fine and starts about 38 minutes in. I think Dillahunty makes some good points relevant to our American society and engaging Americans of they hyper-religious sort.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:44:15pm

My wife is watching a video on YouTube shot in a Canadian clinic of a woman going off on a racist rant against a woman physician of Pakistani descent … demanding someone who “speaks English” because the physician’s accent is Pakistani.

I never understood that sort of thing: I care about my physician’s credentials, not ethnic pedigree.

It reminds me of a physician I once saw in the VA in Oklahoma City. She was originally from the Middle East. She had a framed bit of Arabic calligraphy on her office wall.

I asked her what it was … she was sort of cagey at first, but told me it was a poem and translated it.

I pointed out that my interest is as an amateur calligrapher, and I find calligraphy in other scripts than English (such as Chinese or Arabic) to be fascinating. The visit went fine after that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:47:57pm

From the previous thread:

re: #132 William Lewis

But will it be heard before or after Kennedy is replaced by a Bork clone? Since we already know that the majority of people are too lazy to vote in off year elections , much less partake in a revolution, that’s pretty much the only meaningful question anymore.

So far, Anthony Kennedy has done none of the traditional things a Supreme Court justice does before retiring. Christopher Hayes’s assertion doesn’t seem to be supported by other than speculation.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:49:58pm

Notice to prepper Lizards:
We have no bug-out plans here at the Kirel Supreme Global Headquarters and Conspiracy Compound.
Instead, we plan that desperate RWNJs and crazed tea-baggers will flee from US.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2017 • 10:51:39pm

re: #16 Shiplord Kirel

Notice to prepper Lizards:
We have no bug-out plans here at the Kirel Supreme Global Headquarters and Conspiracy Compound.
Instead, we plan that desperate RWNJs and crazed tea-baggers will flee from US.

We are but pale blue dots in seas of red… .

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 22, 2017 • 11:03:17pm

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2017 • 11:05:11pm
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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2017 • 11:09:45pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread:

So far, Anthony Kennedy has done none of the traditional things a Supreme Court justice does before retiring. Christopher Hayes’s assertion doesn’t seem to be supported by other than speculation.

He, or one of the other justices, could have a coronary tonight and that will be the end of Jefferson’s experiment. The only thing in our favor is that they aren’t quite cold blooded enough in their pursuit of tax cuts to take the historically logical next step.

As long as the corporate powers that be keep applying the Brave New World model to our edu-tainment systems and the GOP has enough Others to keep the mass afraid of when they aren’t soaking up the Soma (literally or figuratively) then the majority really won’t even care.

And my son will be seeking political asylum to the North.

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2017 • 11:15:25pm

re: #16 Shiplord Kirel

I currently have a sword, various shorter blades, a revolver, a lever action rifle, and an over the shoulder bandolier of ammo for both. I’ve always told my priest that my biggest failing as a Christian is that I am not a pacifist. I wear my crossed rifles every day as a reminder to anyone with eyes that see..

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2017 • 11:15:40pm

The Friendly Atheist (Hemant Mehta), who was a Bernie Sanders supporter, drags Senator Sanders over a line of questioning he made over a person’s religious beliefs.

Bernie Sanders Was Wrong to Punish a Nominee for His Religious Beliefs

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Targetpractice  Jun 22, 2017 • 11:31:34pm

I shall now describe the Senate wealthcare bill in a single pithy Youtube clip:

That is One Big Pile of Shit

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 22, 2017 • 11:36:20pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹

A ridiculous argument by Mehta. He says there has to be a link between thought and action while dismissing Vought’s article in which he defends a Christian college firing a professor for wearing a Hijab (as a show of solidarity with Muslims facing discrimination) as mere opinion. Vought wrote and publicly published his defense of religious discrimination, which means he took an action in defense of a bigoted action. Given Trump’s campaign promises to institute a complete and total ban on Muslims entering the country and his (thus far) legally indefensible executive orders targeting Muslim countries there’s every reason to believe Vought was implicitly chosen for his position because of his professed animus towards Muslims. Only an abject idiot would give a guy like that the benefit of the doubt.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2017 • 11:46:48pm

re: #24 goddamnedfrank

A ridiculous argument by Mehta. He says there has to be a link between thought and action while dismissing Vought’s article in which he defends a Christian college firing a professor for wearing a Hijab (as a show of solidarity with Muslims facing discrimination) as mere opinion. Vought wrote and publicly published his defense of religious discrimination, which means he took an action in defense of a bigoted action. Given Trump’s campaign promises to institute a complete and total ban on Muslims entering the country and his (thus far) legally indefensible executive orders targeting Muslim countries there’s every reason to believe Vought was implicitly chosen for his position because of his professed animus towards Muslims. Only an abject idiot would give a guy like that the benefit of the doubt.

Well, I wouldn’t call Mehta an “abject idiot,” but I do think he is being a lot more charitable to Vought than he deserved. Beliefs frequently inform actions. While his actions might be deemed “acceptable” (in the context of a private religious college), they certainly don’t belong in government policy.

I don’t know about the whole exchange between Vought and Sanders, but I suspect that Sanders was also time-limited on the questions he was allowed to ask.

That said, Sanders did give conservatives a talking point about “Christians being persecuted” if they want to use it. (On the other hand, conservatives bring up that talking point about everything, so that may not matter so much.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2017 • 11:51:07pm

The centre of Tropical Depression Cindy is approaching Little Rock. The Weather Prediction Center of NOAA has a predicted rainfall map out showing potential flooding spreading into West Virginia and Pennsylvania over the next couple days.

wpc.ncep.noaa.gov

Latest public advisory from the National Hurricane Center (they will keep updating as long as its a tropical system, next update at 5 EDT)
nhc.noaa.gov

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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:14:57am

Next spring. I’m there.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:23:13am

North Carolina is the one state where the law permits men to complete sex if a woman revokes consent.

broadly.vice.com

North Carolina is the one state where the law explicitly says you cannot revoke consent once it’s given. A bill that would remove this “unacceptable loophole” has little traction.

(More at Vice)

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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:26:53am
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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:31:05am
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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:40:01am

Current temperature in Phoenix, 97° F.

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Cheechako  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:41:37am

An update:

Mounties: Stolen toe used in Sourtoe Cocktail returned to bar, with letter of apology

Toe-riffic news, everyone.

Royal Canadian Mounted Police say the toe stolen from the Downtown Hotel Sourdough Saloon in Dawson City has been returned to its rightful owner, accompanied by a letter of apology.

“We’re happy as clams about it,” said “toe captain” Sue Taylor, who had to cut short a phone interview due to a line of customers waiting to drink the saloon’s signature Sourtoe Cocktail.

The dehydrated human toe that disappeared over the weekend is used as a garnish in the famous drink. Its theft temporarily left the hotel with one usable digit.

AND I AM NOT THE CHEECHAKO MENTIONED IN THE WANTED POSTER!!

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William Lewis  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:49:36am

re: #31 teleskiguy

Current temperature in Phoenix, 97° F.

Bisbee, a small town near the Mexican border, is 81 F after a high of 97. Good reason to stay away from a big city heat trap.

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Targetpractice  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:52:05am

Heh, taking an online survey about gaming and as we get towards the end, it asks me what my current relationship status is with an “Other” option at the bottom and a blank box. I wonder if they’d frown if I typed in “Married to my job”?

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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:52:37am

re: #33 William Lewis

My first girlfriend in college (over 17 years ago) lives in Bisbee. She loves it there.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:17:37am

Sixty-four degrees Fahrenheit here at Chez Tumbleweed. Low of forty-eight predicted.

Summer has arrived.

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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:32:52am

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:35:53am

re: #37 teleskiguy

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:50:02am

So I rediscovered this one… Does one of the characters seem familiar?

POESI FÖR FISKAR - Miljön

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:50:45am

In local news, my wife and I have lived here long enough that we can start appearing in the “In Days Gone By… ” column in the county newspaper under “Five Years Ago.”

However, we’re still referred to as “the new people” in town.

A couple months ago, we got a letter from Poland. It had a non-existent address on another street in town. I returned it to the Post Office noting that we didn’t know the sender (everyone in Poland who writes us knows our correct address).

She said, “Well, it was from Poland, I figured it had to be for you.”

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Dave In Austin  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:59:08am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:01:23am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:02:16am

GOP Congressman: Bill Clinton Warned Loretta Lynch He Would Kill Her Like Vince Foster goes to Right Wing Watch, with audio of Pete Olsen (TX27, R) saying this on a right wing radio show.

Also from the same article:

Olson called the Comey hearing a “clown show” and said that what Sen. John McCain was trying to get at in his famously bumbling questioning of the former FBI chief was that there was a double standard between the media’s and Congress’ treatment of Trump and of Hillary Clinton because “the same sort of shenanigans happened in two fields, but one got all this national spotlight and all these little hearings and stuff, and one was just sort of swept under the rug like Vince Foster’s death.”

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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:04:32am
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Targetpractice  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:07:10am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹

GOP Congressman: Bill Clinton Warned Loretta Lynch He Would Kill Her Like Vince Foster goes to Right Wing Watch, with audio of Pete Olsen (TX27, R) saying this on a right wing radio show.

Also from the same article:

Oh I’d agree with his characterizations, except I doubt we’d agree on which one is which.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:26:11am

re: #45 Targetpractice

Oh I’d agree with his characterizations, except I doubt we’d agree on which one is which.

Do you mean Loretta Lynch might have gone all “BenghaVinceFosterPizzaRisottaEmailKillKillKill” on Bill Clinton when he showed up on that plane? /s

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Weaselone  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:44:07am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹

If Bill and Hillary were actually this ruthless, this nutbar wouldn’t have guts to spew this sort of bilge, nor would our media companies have covered manufactured scandals like Travelgate, Emailgate, Whitewater, etc. with such fervent dedication to spreading manure.

Alternately, the media landscape and the membership of the House, Senate and Presidency would look very different today, as most of the current members would be taking dirt naps courtesy of Clinton’s assassins.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:49:15am

My heater just popped on. I turned it off.

Cindy is still hanging on as a tropical depression, just outside Little Rock churning toward Knoxville …

wpc.ncep.noaa.gov (5AM EDT update).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:04:27am

Yesterday the 5th Circuit Court allowed Gov. Phil Bryant’s (R-Miss.) “religious freedom” law to stand … allowing businesses and government workers to deny services to same-sex couples and others in the name of “religious freedom.” (The bill would allow any discrimination in the name of “religious freedom,” but was sold as a “gay cooties on my Bible” bill.)

metroweekly.com

The law was signed into law by Gov. Phil Bryant last year, but blocked from going into effect after U.S. District Judge Carlton Reeves ruled that the law was discriminatory and violated both the First and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution by favoring a very specific set of religious and moral beliefs opposing homosexuality, transgenderism, and extramarital sex.

On Thursday, a three-judge panel overruled Reeves, arguing that the plaintiffs who brought the lawsuit, including a group of ministers, LGBTQ residents, and community activists, lack standing to sue, as they cannot claim a specific harm caused by the law because it has not yet gone into effect. Essentially, the court argued that the law must be allowed to go into effect and, as expected, harm LGBTQ people before they can seek to have the law blocked or overturned.

FOX News presents the case as a magic-balance fairy argument (both sides have good points).

foxnews.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:08:55am

More on the case from the New York Post. I’m guessing if I was a Rastafanarian and made the same argument about lighting up a blunt in Jackson, this argument from Governor Bryant would change really quickly.

nypost.com

“I am pleased the Fifth Circuit has ruled to dismiss the case and allow House Bill 1523 to become law,” Governor Phil Bryant said in a statement. “As I have said all along, the legislation is not meant to discriminate against anyone, but simply prevents government interference with the constitutional right to exercise sincerely held religious beliefs.”

The logical extension of such a law of course is to allow discrimination, not protect religious beliefs. If your religious beliefs oppose miscegenation, Gov. Bryant thinks that’s fine. You’re an atheist? No adoptions for you. &c

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:12:44am

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹

Very shocked that a federal circuit court would issue such a decision. It’s as if we we retreating to the 50’s. Discrimination should never be sanctioned in law.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:14:20am

The Library of Congress is currently holding a “Library of Awesome” event (designed to highlight its comic book collection).

As part of that, the Librarian Carla Hayden invited Lynda Carter of Seventies Wonder Woman TV fame to speak at the event.

Lynda Carter surprised the Librarian by presenting the Library of Congress with the original script to the current Wonder Woman movie now playing.

washingtonian.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:17:10am

re: #51 Patricia Kayden

Very shocked that a federal circuit court would issue such a decision. It’s as if we we retreating to the 50’s. Discrimination should never be sanctioned in law.

It was a three-person panel in the most conservative appellate court in the nation. The panel ruled narrowly: The plaintiffs (LGBT, straight persons, atheists, others) did not show that they had (yet) been harmed by the law and avoided the constitutional question.

Of the two law firms representing the different plaintiffs, one says it will appeal to the full court, the other says it might do that or appeal directly to the Supreme Court. (I’m guessing they’ll go with the full court first.)

This is the same court that barred same-sex marriage during the Obergefell fight.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:40:07am

I smell spam in the right hand column of LGF: User with a brand new account, no comments, one article (which is plugging an anti-virus firm).

littlegreenfootballs.com

Comments are closed … I downvoted it (that takes it to -1) I rarely pull out the downvote finger.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:45:32am

I’m not sure why MSNBC won’t play in Firefox for me. It does work in Internet Explorer 11.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:48:08am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹

Wow, and just like that, the page is gone. Mr. Johnson is on top of things round here.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:27:13am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹

GOP Congressman: Bill Clinton Warned Loretta Lynch He Would Kill Her Like Vince Foster goes to Right Wing Watch, with audio of Pete Olsen (TX27, R) saying this on a right wing radio show.

Also from the same article:

JFC.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:30:09am

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹

It was a three-person panel in the most conservative appellate court in the nation. The panel ruled narrowly: The plaintiffs (LGBT, straight persons, atheists, others) did not show that they had (yet) been harmed by the law and avoided the constitutional question.

Of the two law firms representing the different plaintiffs, one says it will appeal to the full court, the other says it might do that or appeal directly to the Supreme Court. (I’m guessing they’ll go with the full court first.)

This is the same court that barred same-sex marriage during the Obergefell fight.

I’d expect it to be overturned and the plaintiffs thankfully do plan to appeal. This is why the judiciary is so important though.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:59:43am

Comment from one of the compassionate conservatives (tm) at RedState on yesterday’s protest by disabled people at Mitch McConnell’s office:

I’m absolutely certain that all of the people protesting outside Mitch McConnell’s office within minutes of his release of the draft Senate healthcare bill all had time to throughly [sic] read and analyze [sic] it’s contents. It’s not like Democrats would stage a fake protest or anything. They don’t do that sort of thing. Right? They certainly wouldn’t use wheelchair bound people as props, would they?

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Weaselone  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:05:05am

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

Comment from one of the compassionate conservatives (tm) at RedState on yesterday’s protest by disabled people at Mitch McConnell’s office:

There was no real mystery as to what was going to be in the bill, nor does it actually take much time to scan through it and find the parts that specifically impact the disabled. This isn’t like conservatives and the Bibles they never bother to actually read and the Christ they never actually bother to follow.

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darthstar  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:08:30am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:08:53am

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

Comment from one of the compassionate conservatives (tm) at RedState on yesterday’s protest by disabled people at Mitch McConnell’s office:

Did the people who raised a stink over ACA read every last word of it? Inquiring minds need to know so their right to protest can be invalidated.//

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:09:41am

re: #61 darthstar

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Witness intimidation is never a good look.

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I cannot.  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:15:01am

re: #62 HappyWarrior

I just love how they keep complaining that we never took time on the ACA for debate. My ABSOLUTE favorite is how, months or even years later people say “nobody has even read it”. QUIT WHINING AND OPEN A GODDAMN BROWSER TAB!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:15:10am

Rude Pundit on the Dumpster file of a wealthcare bill (that amongst other things, will take Medicaid away from one in ten military veterans). He suggests the same sorts of emotional appeals as Republicans often use.

Here we are, in the thick of a battle against some vague, but no doubt savage piece of legislation, and the left is just really gearing up for it. At this point, there should be ads from SuperPACs running constantly about how bad the AHCA is. And you know what? A little hyperbole wouldn’t hurt about now. Mitch McConnell is trying to rape the nation with this spiked dildo of a law while so-called “moderate” Republicans do their usual dance of fake dignity, pretending like they actually give two shits about what McConnell is doing in the writing of the bill.

So there is a space for Democrats to creatively show the effects of a bill that quite simply takes money from the poor, the elderly, the addicted, and the sick and gives it to the very wealthy in the form of a tax cut. That’s an easy ad right there: Rich people saunter into a doctor’s office and rob a bunch of ill people in the waiting room, leaving them dying and sicker, only without hope of seeing a doctor.

Or how about a real death panel: a row of wealthy people behind a table, making a decision on whether or not each suffering poor person deserves help. Is it over the top? Yeah. That’s the fucking point. Subtlety and well-reasoned arguments aren’t going to win here because people don’t respond to that. They respond to a rich puke punching Gramps in the balls until he hands over his wallet.

Enough with the calm, rational discussions. Enough with the speeches. Go for their throats with an emotional appeal. And that means crying people who would lose health care and the image of the uncaring Republican, ready to intentionally inflict more pain.

The rest is at rudepundit.blogspot.com

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:16:33am

re: #64 I cannot.

I just love how they keep complaining that we never took time on the ACA for debate. My ABSOLUTE favorite is how, months or even years later people say “nobody has even read it”. QUIT WHINING AND OPEN A GODDAMN BROWSER TAB!

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:17:50am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

Rude Pundit on the Dumpster file of a wealthcare bill (that amongst other things, will take Medicaid away from one in ten military veterans). He suggests the same sorts of emotional appeals as Republicans often use.

The rest is at rudepundit.blogspot.com

It is an emotional issue. Which is exactly why I agree with him.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:18:54am

Bill Bramhall:

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darthstar  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:29:24am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:31:10am

re: #69 darthstar

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Shouldn’t have fired him then.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:32:32am

The sun is up. That means it’s time for bed for me. Nice and cool in the house right now too (57 degrees outside now).

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:51:03am

re: #69 darthstar

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On Morning Joe they pointed out that while Trump is whining how many of Mueller’s new hires donated to Clinton… Trump also donated to Clinton. And donated to Schumer. And invited the Clintons to his wedding.

also… LAST NIGHT I SAW HAMILTON!!

It was awesome. I’ll be listening to the original cast recording all day. My sister flew in from Portland to see it with me; we thought it would be all sad, didn’t realize how much humor is also sprinkled throughout. And for pure humor, we’re seeing Book of Mormon tomorrow…

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:52:20am

re: #44 teleskiguy

Models need to switch sides.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:52:34am

re: #61 darthstar

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He really is fucking stupid, isn’t he?

Whatever one thinks about Comey and his ratfuckery, etc., pretty sure no one thinks Comey is a liar and/or someone that is going to be intimidated. Trump on the other hand…

And Trump’s dumbass really does think Comey vindicated him, doesn’t he?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:53:44am

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

I was literally about to post the same thing.

It’s also like police officers holding “town halls” to “educate” black people on the importance of respecting authority dangers of leaving your home.

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darthstar  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:54:01am

re: #72 sagehen

On Morning Joe they pointed out that while Trump is whining how many of Mueller’s new hires donated to Clinton… Trump also donated to Clinton. And donated to Schumer. And invited the Clintons to his wedding.

also… LAST NIGHT I SAW HAMILTON!!

It was awesome. I’ll be listening to the original cast recording all day. My sister flew in from Portland to see it with me; we thought it would be all sad, didn’t realize how much humor is also sprinkled throughout. And for pure humor, we’re seeing Book of Mormon tomorrow…

Hamilton fucking rocks. Book of Mormon is a ton of fun…enjoy.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:55:10am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Yeah, it’s disgusting out there - super high humidity and it’s already so muggy that it’s just disgusting out there. If I wanted to live in a goddamned rain forest, I would move to the Virgin Islands.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:58:11am

Accu-Rev is a fucking instrument of torture.

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jeffreyw  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:58:41am

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Good morning!

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:59:05am

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

Bill Cosby to hold a series of “town halls” to “educate” people on what sexual assault “actually” is.
aol.com

Barf.

Not The Onion?

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:59:32am

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹

The Library of Congress is currently holding a “Library of Awesome” event (designed to highlight its comic book collection).

As part of that, the Librarian Carla Hayden invited Lynda Carter of Seventies Wonder Woman TV fame to speak at the event.

Lynda Carter surprised the Librarian by presenting the Library of Congress with the original script to the current Wonder Woman movie now playing.

washingtonian.com

As I mentioned earlier, I finally got to see the WW movie. I went with a group of students: two men, six women. Everyone enjoyed the movie, but I think the female students were inspired by Diana, who was brave and strong, but still sensitive and caring.

Two of them had earlier seen Batman v. Superman: Dawn of What the Hey? with me, and I remember they enjoyed Wonder Woman’s appearance in that flick much more than seeing middle-aged Batman and self-absorbed Superman duke it out for obscure reasons.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:00:21am

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹

Ah, man, sorry I missed this. I loves me some Lynda Carter.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:01:08am

re: #77 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Yeah, it’s disgusting out there - super high humidity and it’s already so muggy that it’s just disgusting out there. If I wanted to live in a goddamned rain forest, I would move to the Virgin Islands.

My first shirt already didn’t make it today. Swapped it out for dryer one before I left the house.

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darthstar  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:01:38am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:04:53am

re: #84 darthstar

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Man I miss that guy.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:09:28am

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Man I miss that guy.

We went from one of the best presidents in US history to the worst by far.

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meteor  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:10:44am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹

Batshit fucking ignorance.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:14:11am

re: #86 wheat-dogg

We went from one of the best presidents in US history to the worst by far.

Yep.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:17:06am

re: #86 wheat-dogg

We went from one of the best presidents in US history to the worst by far.

Hey now, DJT has single-handedly reduced US unemployment from 45% to 4%, defeated NATO, raised the DOW all the way to 20,000 from a low of like 19,000. Thanks to dTumpF, America is building houses again, opening coal mines, building cars again.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:17:24am

This seems important:

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:19:15am

re: #90 lawhawk

This seems important:

I anticipate a tweet-storm of whining rage from our man-baby president.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:19:58am

talkingpointsmemo.com

News comes today that despite President Trump’s heroic intervention to save the jobs of manufacturing workers at a Carrier plant in Indiana last winter, they’re basically all losing their jobs anyway.

As the article goes on to explain, the devil turned out to be in the details. Carrier did commit to retaining 1,069 employees at the Indiana plant for a decade. But those aren’t going to be manufacturing workers. Most of those are engineering and technical positions that were never slated to be laid off anyway. Meanwhile, the money Carrier received in the deal is being invested in automation. So rather than investing in new production and jobs, as Trump promised, the money is going into automation which means replacing humans with jobs with machines.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:20:55am

re: #90 lawhawk

If you have time that is eminently Page worthy.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:23:08am

re: #93 Unshaken Defiance

Unfortunately, I’ve got a major project with work that is consuming all available time and my posting here going forward is going to be somewhat limited.

Oh, and this too seems important:

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:23:30am

re: #92 sagehen

talkingpointsmemo.com

faKe NEWz!!!! AT least TRUMP tried!!! 1000 jobs SAved!!!!1

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:25:54am

re: #90 lawhawk

With regard to punishing Russia for the hacking, I can certainly understand the reticence; I mean, what the hell do you do if you’re the POTUS? Call Pooty-Poot on the hotline? Is there any way to make the sanctions even tougher than they already are? And that’s unlikely to affect Putin or his inner circle, quite frankly. Military action? That would be all but suicidal as Russia would retaliate in a nuclear fashion - nukes are the only ace in the hole they’ve got.

What do you do? This is why I wouldn’t want to be POTUS for all the whisky in Ireland.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:30:36am

re: #96 Dr Lizardo

With regard to punishing Russia for the hacking, I can certainly understand the reticence; I mean, what the hell do you do if you’re the POTUS? Call Pooty-Poot on the hotline? Is there any way to make the sanctions even tougher than they already are? And that’s unlikely to affect Putin or his inner circle, quite frankly. Military action? That would be all but suicidal as Russia would retaliate in a nuclear fashion - nukes are the only ace in the hole they’ve got.

What do you do? This is why I wouldn’t want to be POTUS for all the whisky in Ireland.

You also risk compromising sources and methods of intelligence gathering too…

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:32:07am

Read the whole thing. Had Trump lost the election, Russia would be in a world of hurt now, I reckon.

Obama’s secret struggle to punish Russia for Putin’s election assault

washingtonpost.com

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:32:50am

re: #90 lawhawk

Beat me to it.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:33:40am

re: #94 lawhawk

I’ll see what I can do with a ht for ya.

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Lupin  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:37:52am

re: #96 Dr Lizardo

What do you do? This is why I wouldn’t want to be POTUS for all the whisky in Ireland.

Well, one possibility would have been to go after the intended target. I mean, if a gang of thieves plan to rob a bank, and you can’t arrest them or dissuade them, then moving the loot to another location is the appropriate move.

In this case, it would have meant (a) publicizing what was going on in real time; (b) put
a temporary hold on the election while undoing some of the damage. Unprecedented yes. Fraught with all kind of perils, yes. But letting the thieves get away with the gold doesn’t strike me as a better option.

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mmmirele  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:39:31am

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

Bill Cosby to hold a series of “town halls” to “educate” people on what sexual assault “actually” is.
aol.com

Barf.

I have a friend (Mark Ebner, he’s a writer) who has been telling people since 2006 that Cosby was a serial sexual predator. All of this has been a huge vindication for him; he took a ton of shit for saying that Dr. Huxtable was drugging women and raping them.

I’m taking the vow right in front of you all here—if Cosby brings this shitshow to the Phoenix area, I’ll be out in front with a sign denouncing him. Even at 110+.

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Lupin  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:41:20am

re: #98 wheat-dogg

Read the whole thing. Had Trump lost the election, Russia would be in a world of hurt now, I reckon.

The country that once fried the Rosenbergs after the fact, to make an example, as it were, proved incapable of stopping a well-documented, coordinated cyberattack by the Russians on our soil.

I keep saying the US looks like increasingly like an old person afflicted with senile dementia (or TIAs). Confused, indecisive, hostile.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:41:42am

re: #101 Lupin

Well, one possibility would have been to go after the intended target. I mean, if a gang of thieves plan to rob a bank, and you can’t arrest them or dissuade them, then moving the loot to another location is the appropriate move.

In this case, it would have meant (a) publicizing what was going on in real time; (b) put
a temporary hold on the election while undoing some of the damage. Unprecedented yes. Fraught with all kind of perils, yes. But letting the thieves get away with the gold doesn’t strike me as a better option.

All of which could have led to an even worse defeat, including more Congressional seats going to Republicans. What if you tell everyone that the robbers are taking the gold, and the they say “They’re not trying to rob the bank, you are”?

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:43:05am

re: #101 Lupin

Well, one possibility would have been to go after the intended target. I mean, if a gang of thieves plan to rob a bank, and you can’t arrest them or dissuade them, then moving the loot to another location is the appropriate move.

In this case, it would have meant (a) publicizing what was going on in real time; (b) put
a temporary hold on the election
while undoing some of the damage. Unprecedented yes. Fraught with all kind of perils, yes. But letting the thieves get away with the gold doesn’t strike me as a better option.

There is nothing in the Constitution or federal law enabling a delay of Election Day. Nor is there a provision for a re-do should the results be suspected to be false or invalid. Given the RWNJ fearmongering of an imminent Obama dictatorship, any attempt to delay or reschedule the election would have created a firestorm of accusations, if not outright violence. I am sure such an idea was quickly abandoned as unfeasible and dangerous, if it even had come up in discussion.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:48:37am

re: #103 Lupin

The country that once fried the Rosenbergs after the fact, to make an example, as it were, proved incapable of stopping a well-documented, coordinated cyberattack by the Russians on our soil.

I keep saying the US looks like increasingly like an old person afflicted with senile dementia (or TIAs). Confused, indecisive, hostile.

I’m going to put some of the blame on Obama’s well known preference for careful and judicious reactions to political crises. I admire the man no end, but Russia’s interference in our election process should have been characterized as an act of war — or close to it — with suitable reprisals taken with extreme prejudice.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:50:25am

re: #90 lawhawk

This seems important:

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This story from WaPo is insane.

McConnell is complicit.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:51:45am

re: #107 Stanley Sea

This story from WaPo is insane.

McConnell is complicit.

In a just world, McConnell would be arrested and tried for aiding and abetting the enemy.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:52:00am

re: #106 wheat-dogg

I’m going to put some of the blame on Obama’s well known preference for careful and judicious reactions to political crises. I admire the man no end, but Russia’s interference in our election process should have been characterized as an act of war — or close to it — with suitable reprisals taken with extreme prejudice.

Which Trump immediately shut down. As the WaPo article points out, Obama approved a number of things that needed to be implemented by Trump, who hasn’t done them. Trump is even trying to undo the things Obama did.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:52:26am

re: #106 wheat-dogg

I’m going to put some of the blame on Obama’s well known preference for careful and judicious reactions to political crises. I admire the man no end, but Russia’s interference in our election process should have been characterized as an act of war — or close to it — with suitable reprisals taken with extreme prejudice.

From the WaPo article, it sounds like a method retaliation is already in place. The CIA has likely already inserted something like a Stuxnet-like virus into Russia’s e-infrastructure. It just needs POTUS authorization to pull the trigger. Granted, that’s highly unlikely with Trump. But with the next POTUS, who knows. Russia does something again, we bring the whole country crashing down - a digital Pearl Harbor/Hiroshima combined.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:55:09am

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

From the WaPo article, it sounds like a method retaliation is already in place. The CIA has likely already inserted something like a Stuxnet-like virus into Russia’s e-infrastructure. It just needs POTUS authorization to pull the trigger. Granted, that’s highly unlikely with Trump. But with the next POTUS, who knows. Russia does something again, we bring the whole country crashing down - a digital Pearl Harbor/Hiroshima combined.

Or if somebody in the IC or DOD thinks its important enough to be willing to spend the rest of his life in prison for it, go ahead and do it even without POTUS authorization.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:55:24am

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

re: #109 Belafon

Rather convenient for the Russians to end up with Trump in the White House, n’est-ce pas? Had Hillary won the electoral votes, Putin would be hurting big time now. As it is, Trump is in Russia’s pocket in so many ways.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:55:51am

Obama was cautious in that he thought he needed McConnell to stand with him. McConnell, though, is willing to sell the country to get what he wants, namely black people back in their place. Yes, I think McConnell is a full blown racist.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:56:20am

Typo of the century still going strong:
Communications Over Various Feeds Electronically for Engagement Act (COVFEFE Act)

The Communications Over Various Feeds Electronically for Engagement Act (COVFEFE Act) is a bill introduced into the United States House of Representatives in 2017, during the 115th United States Congress.

The bill would amend the Presidential Records Act to preserve Twitter posts and other social media interactions of the president of the United States, and to require the National Archives to store such items.

U.S. Representative Mike Quigley, Democrat of Illinois, introduced the legislation in the wake of Donald Trump’s routine use of Twitter, stating “In order to maintain public trust in government, elected officials must answer for what they do and say; this includes 140-character tweets. If the president is going to take to social media to make sudden public policy proclamations, we must ensure that these statements are documented and preserved for future reference.” If enacted, the bill “would bar the prolifically tweeting president from deleting his posts, as he has sometimes done.”

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:57:14am

re: #111 sagehen

Or if somebody in the IC or DOD thinks its important enough to be willing to spend the rest of his life in prison for it, go ahead and do it even without POTUS authorization.

It would make for a great movie script — a Jack Ryan- or even a Jason Bourne-type operative taking matters into his own hand and pushing the ENTER key to inflict harm on the Russian infrastructure.

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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:57:48am

This seems like a good idea - Under pressure, Western tech firms bow to Russian demands to share cyber secrets

Western technology companies, including Cisco, IBM and SAP, are acceding to demands by Moscow for access to closely guarded product security secrets, at a time when Russia has been accused of a growing number of cyber attacks on the West, a Reuters investigation has found.

Russian authorities are asking Western tech companies to allow them to review source code for security products such as firewalls, anti-virus applications and software containing encryption before permitting the products to be imported and sold in the country. The requests, which have increased since 2014, are ostensibly done to ensure foreign spy agencies have not hidden any “backdoors” that would allow them to burrow into Russian systems.

But those inspections also provide the Russians an opportunity to find vulnerabilities in the products’ source code - instructions that control the basic operations of computer equipment - current and former U.S. officials and security experts said.

While a number of U.S. firms say they are playing ball to preserve their entree to Russia’s huge tech market, at least one U.S. firm, Symantec, told Reuters it has stopped cooperating with the source code reviews over security concerns. That halt has not been previously reported.

Symantec said one of the labs inspecting its products was not independent enough from the Russian government.

U.S. officials say they have warned firms about the risks of allowing the Russians to review their products’ source code, because of fears it could be used in cyber attacks. But they say they have no legal authority to stop the practice unless the technology has restricted military applications or violates U.S. sanctions.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:58:12am
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mmmirele  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:00:55am

Theocracy Watch:

Mike Pence is going to be at Focus on the Fetus Family today in Colorado Springs to celebrate Focus’ 40th anniversary of obnoxious obscurantism and stupidity.

kktv.com

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:01:17am

re: #113 Belafon

Obama was cautious in that he thought he needed McConnell to stand with him. McConnell, though, is willing to sell the country to get what he wants, namely black people back in their place. Yes, I think McConnell is a full blown racist.

I lived in KY for 30 years. McConnell only cares about country-club Republicans, and among them, only those who will support his re-election. African-Americans and poor white folks are unimportant to him.

It’s fair to say that he is loathed by many in Kentucky, even among Republicans, but he has a lot of political power, so he is also feared.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:04:13am

re: #117 lawhawk

.@realDonaldTrump: “I think the American public is tired of obstructionists.” pic.twitter.com

— Fox News

Yeah, we’re pretty tired of eight years of GOP obstruction.

Also, nobody likes you.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:04:39am

re: #117 lawhawk

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You could start by start by actually showing a willingness but nope you spread lies about how you’re being obstructed despite having majorities in both houses, call your opponents juvenile names, continue to deny that Russia interfered in the election, and by not appointing people to executive positions.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:05:31am

It amazes me that if the GOP can passes the healthcare bill, the following will happen:

- They will celebrate enormously (bigly?). The Trump and Paul Ryan gloating alone will be unbearable

- Their base will start bragging to Liberals that: hurr hurr, fuck you, Obamacare’s dead!.

- Pro life, RW “Christian” leaders will trumpet the bill as a good thing

- Republicans will use the success of getting the bill passed in their re-election campaigns

- The rest of the world will, even moreso, think the U.S. has lost its fucking mind.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:05:37am

re: #113 Belafon

Obama was cautious in that he thought he needed McConnell to stand with him. McConnell, though, is willing to sell the country to get what he wants, namely black people back in their place. Yes, I think McConnell is a full blown racist.

McConnell showed his true intentions when he stated the GOP’s goal was to make Obama a one term President and did everything to knee cap him including the shitty stunt he pulled with Garland.

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covfefe  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:06:42am

re: #117 lawhawk

We can go back even farther than that.

politico.com

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:08:28am

Morning.

All I can say is I got the boat ready just in case.

Columbus is forecast to be ground zero of the cold front from the northwest mixing into the remnants of the tropical storm coming up from the southwest.

Floating Friday.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:10:38am
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sagehen  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:12:30am
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sagehen  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:21:18am

re: #124 covfefe

We can go back even farther than that.

politico.com

We can go back to the night before Obama’s inauguration:

swampland.time.com

David Obey, then chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, met with his GOP counterpart, Jerry Lewis, to explain what Democrats had in mind for the stimulus and ask what Republicans wanted to include. “Jerry’s response was, ‘I’m sorry, but leadership tells us we can’t play,’ ” Obey told me. “Exact quote: ‘We can’t play.’ What they said right from the get-go was, It doesn’t matter what the hell you do, we ain’t going to help you. We’re going to stand on the sidelines and bitch.”

Lewis blames Obey and the Democrats for the committee’s turn toward extreme partisanship, but he doesn’t deny that GOP leaders made a decision not to play. “The leadership decided there was no play to be had,” he says. Republicans recognized that after Obama’s big promises about bipartisanship, they could break those promises by refusing to cooperate. In the words of Congressman Tom Cole, a deputy Republican whip: “We wanted the talking point: ‘The only thing bipartisan was the opposition.’ “

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:23:00am

re: #127 sagehen

China’s hardware manufacturers would tell the FSB to go fuck itself. FWIW, the US government advised against buying Chinese network equipment, simply because the firmware likely has surveillance features embedded in it.

So now, we’re just going to hand the FSB the housekeys.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:25:53am

re: #129 wheat-dogg

China’s hardware manufacturers would tell the FSB to go fuck itself. FWIW, the US government advised against buying Chinese network equipment, simply because the firmware likely has surveillance features embedded in it.

So now, we’re just going to hand the FSB the housekeys.

Didn’t Tillerson just suggest cooperative anti-cyberwarfare efforts with the Russians? What’s going on?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:26:53am

re: #128 sagehen

Lewis blames Obey and the Democrats for the committee’s turn toward extreme partisanship, but he doesn’t deny that GOP leaders made a decision not to play.

The U.S. for the past 25+ years. Dems blamed for “partisanship” while the GOP is ratfvcking the whole thing.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:32:12am

re: #130 Barefoot Grin

Didn’t Tillerson just suggest cooperative anti-cyberwarfare efforts with the Russians? What’s going on?

A delusion that Putin wants to collaborate with the USA as equal partners against China, I assume. This administration has the geopolitical know-how of a flea, and fails to see Putin’s ulterior motive is to reduce the USA to a second-class power.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:35:47am

re: #130 Barefoot Grin

Didn’t Tillerson just suggest cooperative anti-cyberwarfare efforts with the Russians? What’s going on?

Pay offs.

What a fucking mess. I’m just starting to get through the WaPo biggie article linked above.

All I can say now is thank gawd for WaPo. At least someone seems to want to dig into the Trump dirt. Sure as hell the Republicans don’t care since they seemed to be fine with selling America for some power now.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:36:45am

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:37:13am

re: #132 wheat-dogg

A delusion that Putin wants to collaborate with the USA as equal partners against China, I assume. This administration has the geopolitical know-how of a flea, and fails to see Putin’s ulterior motive is to reduce the USA to a second-class power.

Fails to see or more than willing to help? I get the feeling they were willing to help as long as they got more money and power.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:39:12am

re: #134 sagehen

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Speaking of “damage report”, looks like Adnan Oktar has finally triumphed in Turkey. They’re going to stop teaching evolution in secondary school. “Too controversial”, apparently.

*sigh*

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:40:14am

re: #135 ObserverArt

Fails to see or more than willing to help? I get the feeling they were willing to help as long as they got more money and power.

A fair point. I’m convinced the GOP would sell their mothers into white slavery in order to stay in power.

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:41:03am

Rick Wiles Stands With Russia Because ‘The People In Control Of America Today Are Satanists’

“I believe the deep state, at it’s core, is satanic,” Wiles said. “It is Luciferian. They, that synagogue of Satan dark state, in 1917, overthrew the Russian government … The Russian people were trapped in communism, atheistic God-hating communism for 70 plus years; the Russians finally cast it off and came out from under this communist oppression. I believe the deep state is furious with them that they dared to overthrow their God-hating atheism, their Satanism.”

“The people in control of America today are Satanists,” he continued. “What do they defend? Baby killing. Selling baby parts. Homosexuality. Pedophilia. They celebrate it.”

*blink* *blink*

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:44:41am

re: #138 Teukka

Rick Wiles Stands With Russia Because ‘The People In Control Of America Today Are Satanists’

*blink* *blink*

“Deep State” is the new “New World Order” for RWNJ.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:45:20am

re: #138 Teukka

Rick Wiles Stands With Russia Because ‘The People In Control Of America Today Are Satanists’

*blink* *blink*

This is some very serious analysis, thought-provoking, compelling.

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:49:12am

re: #139 Sir John Barron

“Deep State” is the new “New World Order” for RWNJ.

As are “Globalists”. And when you sniff a little closer on it, you notice it’s the same old shit that World Jewry were blamed for in the 3rd Reich.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:51:44am

re: #141 Teukka

As are “Globalists”. And when you sniff a little closer on it, you notice it’s the same old shit that World Jewry were blamed for in the 3rd Reich.

It’s all code for that old “Zionist Occupation Government” bullshit. As always, IT’S THE JOOOOOOOS, MAN!!! as far as the RWNJ’s are concerned.

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:52:48am

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

It’s all code for that old “Zionist Occupation Government” bullshit. As always, IT’S THE JOOOOOOOS, MAN!!! as far as the RWNJ’s are concerned.

*sigh* And it didn’t end well for them last time, why the hell would it end well for them now?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:53:09am

Rick wiles is a fucking idiot.

That is all.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:53:56am

re: #138 Teukka

Rick Wiles Stands With Russia Because ‘The People In Control Of America Today Are Satanists’

*blink* *blink*

Then he can take up residency there.

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:54:11am

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

Rick wiles is a fucking idiot.

That is all.

I concur.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:55:26am
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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:55:49am

re: #138 Teukka

“The people in control of America today are Satanists,”

Trump and his cultists control the White House.

McConnell and his traitorous cohorts control the Senate.

Ryan and his Tea Party thugs control the House.

For once, I’m almost inclined to agree with Rick Wiles. Strange days, man.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:56:37am

re: #147 sagehen

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My Eastern European brethren and our long last names.

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:56:50am

re: #148 makeitstop

Trump and his cultists control the White House.

McConnell and his traitorous cohorts control the Senate.

Ryan and his Tea Party thugs control the House.

For once, I’m almost inclined to agree with Rick Wiles. Strange days, man.

Interesting times. In the ancient Chinese curse sense.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:05:09am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:06:24am

re: #151 sagehen

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Brilliant.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:09:20am

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

Rick wiles is a fucking idiot.

That is all.

Not all. I think we should add: Rick Wiles is a fucking idiot that needs to be shipped off to Russia.

You know since he likes it and all and he can be free from Say-ton and enjoy the resurgent Russia.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:11:44am

re: #151 sagehen

Maybe not a pair, but certainly up there:

Instagram

#mywife #therealwonderwoman ❤️

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:13:45am

re: #138 Teukka

Yet, it’s The Left that hates America, we’re told.

/

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:13:51am

re: #148 makeitstop

Trump and his cultists control the White House.

McConnell and his traitorous cohorts control the Senate.

Ryan and his Tea Party thugs control the House.

For once, I’m almost inclined to agree with Rick Wiles. Strange days, man.

Except all those you list are obviously not members of The Deep State™ in the tiny mind of Rick Wiles. But you know that.

Does anyone get the feeling that the country “founded on the principles of Christianity” will be destroyed by Fundamentalist Christianity? I sure do.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:16:26am

re: #156 ObserverArt

Jesus would look at a lot of aspects of fundamentalist christianity and cringe.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:16:57am

Fact check: True.

McConnell had polio as a toddler and his mom took him to Warm Springs GA where docs helped treat and give him rehab.

I mean, my mother was confronted with the following situation. Her husband was in Europe fighting the Germans. She was — moved to be with her sister in a rural community in Alabama. And there was a big polio epidemic, I subsequently found out, in 1944. And I was one of them.

And it hits you like the flu, and then, when the flu went away, you could have all different kinds of outcomes, from dying to complete recovery. Happily enough, we were one hour’s drive from Warm Springs, where President Roosevelt had set up the polio treatment center.

My mother took me over there. They trained her how to do a physical therapy regimen and said, do it four times a day. The hard part was, don’t let him start trying to walk.

And can you imagine dealing with a 2-year-old and subsequently a 3-year-old, keeping him off his feet? My first memory in life was the last visit to Warm Springs, where they told my mother I was going to be OK, I wouldn’t have to wear a brace, and I would have a normal childhood.

How was this paid for? Courtesy of FDR setting up the place and then the March of Dimes.

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:17:23am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

Jesus would look at a lot of aspects of fundamentalist christianity and cringe.

And a few of said aspects would more than likely prompt him to open up a epic can of whoop-ass.

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nines09  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:17:27am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

Jesus would look at a lot of aspects of fundamentalist christianity and cringe.

If Jesus came back today, he would be dead within a week.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:17:29am
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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:18:30am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

Jesus would look at a lot of aspects of fundamentalist christianity and cringe.

And turning over lots of tables and throwing shit out of mega-churches and that kind of vocal public displays.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:19:17am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

Jesus would look at a lot of aspects of fundamentalist christianity and cringe.

The lack of compassion for people not Christians for starters. My brothers and I have been talking about our problem with the Fundy worldview, why should someone in area with no knowledge of Christianity or who lived in an era before Christianity be punished for not knowing Christ. All three of us I think have different spirituality,- Youngest bro is more or less an outright skeptic, middle bro more spiritual, and me more agnostic. Just glad that we all reject that and I credit that to our parents not forcing religion on us.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:20:02am

re: #158 lawhawk

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Fact check: True.

McConnell had polio as a toddler and his mom took him to Warm Springs GA where docs helped treat and give him rehab.

How was this paid for? Courtesy of FDR setting up the place and then the March of Dimes.

A decent man would remember that and show empathy to others who may experience the same thing. Instead Mitch became a heartless prick.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:20:36am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

A decent man would remember that and show empathy to others who may experience the same thing. Instead Mitch became a heartless prick.

I believe the legal term is:

Fuck you, I got mine.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:20:41am
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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:22:47am

re: #166 lawhawk

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Gee. Everyone is lawyering up. Just like the Trumps.

Amazing the similarities sometimes.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:22:57am

re: #166 lawhawk

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Two lawyers? Poor couple might have to sell one of their homes.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:27:37am

re: #168 Timothy Watson

Two lawyers? Poor couple might have to sell one of their homes.

Can’t find the tears to weep for them. Too bad, so sad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:28:40am

re: #138 Teukka

Rick Wiles Stands With Russia Because ‘The People In Control Of America Today Are Satanists’

*blink* *blink*

Russia is an authoritarian, oligarchic theocracy. In other words, everything the GOP is working towards establishing in America. Only difference is the flavor of the theocracy: Fundamentalist Protestant vs Russian Orthodox.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:30:09am

re: #168 Timothy Watson

Two lawyers? Poor couple might have to sell one of their homes.

Probably a Deep State™ witch hunt.

Bernie and Jane are too pure for this to be happening.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:34:18am

re: #171 ObserverArt

Probably a Deep State™ witch hunt.

Bernie and Jane are too pure for this to be happening.

Pure as New York snow, as the song goes.

Youtube Video

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:34:32am

re: #166 lawhawk

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And if Sanders Bros don’t think this would have been brought up in the election, I own a tropical island in Vermont.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:35:46am

re: #158 lawhawk

By 1938, however, the balls grew less effective and the president needed a new strategy. Using a phrase coined by vaudeville entertainer Eddie Cantor, “March of Dimes” — a spin on the popular newsreel series “March of Time” — Roosevelt founded the March of Dimes foundation and launched a campaign asking the public to mail ten-cent donations to the White House. Within a month, Roosevelt received around 2,680,000 dimes. The campaign continued through WWII

not a government program! Private charity! Checkmate libtards!!!1

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:39:45am

A former Scooter Libby attorney eh? I mean attorneys and clients and all that but this is the exact kind of thing that the BBs would freak out over if it was an establishment Dem’s spouse doing that. I don’t know if Jane is guilty or not. But I definitely do feel that Bernie and Jane are by no means the ethically clean couple they’ve tried to sell themselves to progressives as.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:41:39am

re: #161 Stanley Sea

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What a little fucking dipshit punk. I hope he doesn’t reproduce.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:42:48am

re: #175 HappyWarrior

A former Scooter Libby attorney eh? I mean attorneys and clients and all that but this is the exact kind of thing that the BBs would freak out over if it was an establishment Dem’s spouse doing that. I don’t know if Jane is guilty or not. But I definitely do feel that Bernie and Jane are by no means the ethically clean couple they’ve tried to sell themselves to progressives as.

Like Trump, their selling point was “We’re not the Clintons.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:44:59am

re: #177 Belafon

Like Trump, their selling point was “We’re not the Clintons.”

Exactly. They had their own skeletons in the closet that GOP Opps research would have pounced on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:45:31am

re: #177 Belafon

Like Trump, their selling point was “We’re not the Clintons.”

They were also surfaces onto which voters could project their ideals and wishes of what a candidate should be. That was not the case with Hillary, and that is a major reason why she did not win the election.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:47:46am

re: #90 lawhawk

I can no longer read WaPo. They’ve joined the adblocker=no access bandwagon

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:47:51am

Paul’s plan wouldn’t be so much a plan as a scam. It wouldn’t even cover catastrophic care, and you can bet any amount of money that they’ll cap the annual or lifetime costs to some ungodly amount that means you’ll bump against them the moment you run into trouble and need insurance the most.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:48:31am

re: #181 lawhawk

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Paul’s plan wouldn’t be so much a plan as a scam. It wouldn’t even cover catastrophic care, and you can bet any amount of money that they’ll cap the annual or lifetime costs to some ungodly amount that means you’ll bump against them the moment you run into trouble and need insurance the most.

Someone doesn’t understand how insurance works. Maybe Rand should stop reading von Mises and get his fat head into reality.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:51:02am

re: #181 lawhawk

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:53:22am

re: #183 Dr. Matt

I think $1/day doesn’t even get you the card with directions to the nearest ER.

Instead, the card would give directions to the nearest garbage dump to die in.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:55:32am

re: #181 lawhawk

Paul’s plan wouldn’t be so much a plan as a scam. It wouldn’t even cover catastrophic care, and you can bet any amount of money that they’ll cap the annual or lifetime costs to some ungodly amount that means you’ll bump against them the moment you run into trouble and need insurance the most.

I already pay less than $1 a day, why do all Republicans want to raise my insurance costs?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:57:34am

re: #181 lawhawk

Ayn Rand Paul has been watching too much day-time TV.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:58:15am

re: #185 FormerDirtDart

I already pay less than $1 a day, why do all Republicans want to raise my insurance costs?

So you’d enjoy the privilege of less coverage.

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allegro  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:58:24am

re: #156 ObserverArt

Except all those you list are obviously not members of The Deep State™ in the tiny mind of Rick Wiles. But you know that.

Does anyone get the feeling that the country “founded on the principles of Christianity” will be destroyed by Fundamentalist Christianity? I sure do.

It already has been.

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plansbandc  Jun 23, 2017 • 8:59:10am

re: #173 HappyWarrior

If Bernie would have been the candidate, the Repubs would have made one national commercial labeling him a communist. Game over. Lowest vote count for a Presidential candidate in history.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:01:25am

re: #180 Romantic Heretic

I can no longer read WaPo. They’ve joined the adblocker=no access bandwagon

Do you have Amazon Prime? Free 6 mo.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:03:08am

re: #181 lawhawk

Rand Paul: Insurance should be available for $1 a day

He really is one of the dumbest people ever elected to office.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:04:29am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:05:35am

Water and coffee are more expensive that $1 a day. Aqua Buddha is a fucking gump.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:06:48am

re: #192 Dr. Matt

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Typical. But somehow the Clinton-Lynch meeting was a crime.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:07:44am

re: #191 Timothy Watson

He really is one of the dumbest people ever elected to office.

He and his dad.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:08:25am

re: #192 Dr. Matt

What lies are they pushing today?

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:08:31am
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:08:34am

re: #191 Timothy Watson

He really is one of the dumbest people ever elected to office.

No, he just gets elected by some of the dumbest people.

Constituent: I paid my one dollar per day, why can’t I get coverage?
Paul: You are getting covered. It’s just sometimes, your coverage is “No.”
Constituent: That makes sense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:09:19am

re: #189 plansbandc

If Bernie would have been the candidate, the Repubs would have made one national commercial labeling him a communist. Game over. Lowest vote count for a Presidential candidate in history.

and repeatedly and clearly reminded us that he was Jewish…

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:10:40am

re: #198 Belafon

No, he just gets elected by some of the dumbest people.

Constituent: I paid my one dollar per day, why can’t I get coverage?
Paul: You are getting covered. It’s just sometimes, your coverage is “No.”
Constituent: That makes sense.

Constituent: I was recently denied coverage for a hospital visit.

Paul: Hospital visit? For a dollar-a-day you want them to cover a hospital visit?

Constituent: Good point.

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:12:25am

Noted. For your information when the issue of no-go zones in Sweden and elsewhere rears its ugly head:
So… are they no-go zones? What you need to know about Sweden’s vulnerable areas

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plansbandc  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:13:51am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Naturally, but the commie ad would have been sufficient. But Repubs don’t really grasp sufficient, so yeah. Plenty of Bernie is Jewish statements.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:16:02am

re: #202 plansbandc

Naturally, but the commie ad would have been sufficient. But Repubs don’t really grasp sufficient, so yeah. Plenty of Bernie is Jewish statements.

They would have him listed as a co-author of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:16:44am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They would have him listed as a co-author of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

So what you mean is that Bernie is a plagiarizing hack?

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:16:51am

re: #202 plansbandc

Naturally, but the commie ad would have been sufficient. But Repubs don’t really grasp sufficient, so yeah. Plenty of Bernie is Jewish statements.

The commie ad would have taken care of everything up to the point of Trump colluding with Russia (the commie country). Then you would roll out the Jewish comments.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:19:11am

I think Sanders would have done better then most people here think but he still had problems that weren’t a focus in the primary that certainly would have in a GE.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:22:31am

re: #139 Sir John Barron

“Deep State” is the new “New World Order” for RWNJ.

Or as Frum said, replace “deep state” with “rule of law” and you get a better sense of what they fear.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:28:41am

re: #200 Sir John Barron

Constituent: I was recently denied coverage for a hospital visit.

Paul: Hospital visit? For a dollar-a-day you want them to cover a hospital visit?

Constituent: Good point.

Paul: Also, think about it like this: Do you want your dollar-a-day coverage paying for someone else’s hospital stay?

Constituent: Never thought about it like that.

Paul: If your dollar-a-day coverage has to pay for your hospital stay, then it has to pay for everyone else’s, too. You wouldn’t want that, would you?

Constituent: No, of course not. I don’t want to have to pay for lazy welfare cheats.

Paul: I’ve enjoyed our conversation. Thanks for coming out to see me.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:31:16am

The Inside Story of How Obama Fought Russian Influence in Our Election

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:35:56am

re: #209 Unshaken Defiance

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The Inside Story of How Obama Fought Russian Influence in Our Election

Paged, fixed after some dumb mistakes that messed up the code.

Read through the WaPo article. Obviously, Hannity had gotten wind of it coming out, that is why he was up on the barricades warning of a “plot to undermine the results of the 2016 election.”

The spin on this all is that Trump and the Russians did nothing wrong at all, and Obama was too weak to stop it.

I didn’t do it and stop talking about my mother!!!

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:38:14am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:41:22am

re: #211 Stanley Sea

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Damn I was hoping Jared would unite the PA and Israelis over shared annoyance of him.

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b.d.  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:43:19am

re: #211 Stanley Sea

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We could have peace in the middle east if everyone could just come together and go along with whatever Israel says….why is this soooo difficult?!?!

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:43:45am

re: #196 Sir John Barron

What lies are they pushing today?

All of them.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:44:06am

re: #211 Stanley Sea

One can only imagine what helpful suggestions for I/P peace might come from Kushner et al. after filtering normal GOP obsessions on this topic through tr*mp administration madness:

“It would be awfully convenient if the Palestinians were to just all die. We are trying this idea out in the US with respect to health care, and it’s going to work ever so well. What are your thoughts on this, Mr. Abbas? Would a bribe change your position? We offer lump sum and annuity plans for this.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:45:06am

re: #213 b.d.

We could have peace in the middle east if everyone could just come together and go along with whatever Israel says….why is this soooo difficult?!?!

You jest but deadenders really think that way.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:45:35am

re: #197 Stanley Sea

The issue there may be that he’s not extreme enough and hasn’t done enough to warrant a better rating, rather than being too extreme and incompetent.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:48:53am

re: #215 EPR-radar

One can only imagine what helpful suggestions for I/P peace might come from Kushner et al. after filtering normal GOP obsessions on this topic through tr*mp administration madness:

“It would be awfully convenient if the Palestinians were to just all die. We are trying this idea out in the US with respect to health care, and it’s going to work ever so well. What are your thoughts on this, Mr. Abbas?”

Jared’s thinking is more like this:
We can build factories to produce Ivanka’s branded products in Ramallah and luxury condos in Tel Aviv. Jobs for everyone & lots & lots of money for Jared & Ivanka!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:51:26am

re: #205 Belafon

The commie ad would have taken care of everything up to the point of Trump colluding with Russia (the commie country). Then you would roll out the Jewish comments.

And he would have also lost much of the Jewish vote because many of his most ardent supporters were associated with the BDS movement. Trump would have won the popular vote in a landslide. But you cannot persuade the BernieBros of that

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:55:18am

re: #219 Hecuba’s daughter

And he would have also lost much of the Jewish vote because many of his most ardent supporters were associated with the BDS movement. Trump would have won the popular vote in a landslide. But you cannot persuade the BernieBros of that

They just ignore so much of his flaws. Clinton had flaws. I’ll be the first to acknowledge them but the BBs never acknowledge that Sanders had more and they were the kind that any Republican campaign with any sort of brain would have pounced on. And I have to say, if I, an ardent lefty was having a hard time seeing him as presidential, I wonder what more moderate people would think of him. He has an appeal but it’s a limited one.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:55:55am

The same conservatives who defends the police shootings of Philando Castile, Tamir Rice, Terence Crutcher, Walter Scott, John Crawford, Darrien Hunt, etc. by using the talking point “police needs to make quick life and death decisions in a split second,” are the same conservatives who are still angry at Law Enforcement over the Waco Siege even though the authorities gave the Branch Davidians Cult 50 days to surrender but they didn’t and chose mass suicide instead. But that’s somehow make Janet Reno a mass murderer in their eyes.

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allegro  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:56:07am

re: #209 Unshaken Defiance

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The Inside Story of How Obama Fought Russian Influence in Our Election

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Wow. Reading that I kept thinking about what Mitt Romney said in 2012, that our greatest threat was Russia. He’s been keeping mighty quiet about this now hasn’t he.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:57:11am

re: #222 allegro

Wow. Reading that I kept thinking about what Mitt Romney said in 2012, that our greatest threat was Russia. He’s been keeping mighty quiet about this now hasn’t he.

I’d give Mitt credit on that if he hadn’t tried to get a position with Trump’s administration and yeah his otherwise silence on this.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:58:10am

re: #173 HappyWarrior

And if Sanders Bros don’t think this would have been brought up in the election, I own a tropical island in Vermont.

Yeah…America don’t need corrupt socialists trying to turn this country into Russia.

Wait a minute…

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:59:10am

Nothing is more amusing than Bernie Bros telling us that HRC was a horrible candidate in the same week Bernie Sanders says the Democratic brand is pretty bad.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:59:12am

Paul Joseph Watson can’t stop tweeting about how little he thinks about Johnny Depp.

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plansbandc  Jun 23, 2017 • 9:59:46am

MLB writer Tracy Ringolsby tweeted and deleted this amazing answer. I had no idea he was such a POS.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:00:05am
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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:00:25am

re: #177 Belafon

Like Trump, their selling point was “We’re not the Clintons.”

And yet…

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Timothy Watson  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:01:00am

re: #220 HappyWarrior

They just ignore so much of his flaws. Clinton had flaws. I’ll be the first to acknowledge them but the BBs never acknowledge that Sanders had more and they were the kind that any Republican campaign with any sort of brain would have pounced on. And I have to say, if I, an ardent lefty was having a hard time seeing him as presidential, I wonder what more moderate people would think of him. He has an appeal but it’s a limited one.

I think it was Dave Weigel who got himself a copy of the GOP’s anti-Bernie playbook and wrote about how damaging it would have been.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:03:04am

re: #226 Ace-o-aces

Paul Joseph Watson can’t stop tweeting about how little he thinks about Johnny Depp.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:04:12am

re: #226 Ace-o-aces

Paul Joseph Watson can’t stop tweeting about how little he thinks about Johnny Depp.

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Show us where on the SJW doll that Johnny touched you, Paul.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:04:58am

re: #230 Timothy Watson

I think it was Dave Weigel who got himself a copy of the GOP’s anti-Bernie playbook and wrote about how damaging it would have been.

No, that was Kurt Eichenwald at Newsweek.
newsweek.com

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:05:03am

re: #230 Timothy Watson

I think it was Dave Weigel who got himself a copy of the GOP’s anti-Bernie playbook and wrote about how damaging it would have been.

There were a couple of things in there that frankly I wish Clinton would have brought up to show he wasn’t the Progressive Saint he portrays himself as. The cosponsoring that environmental racist legislation for one.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:05:31am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:06:17am

Funny how they never complained when Nugent actually threatened Obama.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:06:40am

re: #235 Dr. Matt

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55% too low but I’ll take it.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:07:25am

re: #236 HappyWarrior

Funny how they never complained when Nugent actually threatened Obama.

That’s different because Nugent was just using a metaphor. //

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:09:01am

re: #238 Dr. Matt

That’s different because Nugent was just using a metaphor. //

Anyhow on the surface, I think Depp should be condemned but at the same time, I hate the right’s phony outrage given they not only cheered Shitpants on but he ended up getting an invitation to the WH over his shilling for Trump.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:09:30am

re: #238 Dr. Matt

That’s different because Nugent was just using a metaphor. //

I doubt Nugent knows what a metaphor is.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:10:40am

re: #240 Ace-o-aces

I doubt Nugent knows what a metaphor is.

or satire for that matter too which is their go to defense whenever Jabba the Limbaugh gets caught being a pathetic sack of crap.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:11:41am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I think Sanders would have done better then most people here think but he still had problems that weren’t a focus in the primary that certainly would have in a GE.

What is “better” in your opinion? Better than Hillary?

I don’t think anyone here is saying he would have gotten hammered. I think most think he would not have won.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:12:53am

re: #208 Sir John Barron

Paul: Also, think about it like this: Do you want your dollar-a-day coverage paying for someone else’s hospital stay?

Constituent: Never thought about it like that.

Paul: If your dollar-a-day coverage has to pay for your hospital stay, then it has to pay for everyone else’s, too. You wouldn’t want that, would you?

Constituent: No, of course not. I don’t want to have to pay for lazy welfare cheats.

Paul: I’ve enjoyed our conversation. Thanks for coming out to see me.

Nice channeling of the Pauls thoughts and word play.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:13:22am

re: #242 ObserverArt

What is “better” in your opinion? Better than Hillary?

I don’t think anyone here is saying he would have gotten hammered. I think most think he would not have won.

Oh, no, I think he would have done worse. I just disagree with the idea that had been posted before that he would have been landslided in historical proportions. I don’t think we’re seeing a landslide on the McGovern, Mondale, or Goldwater variety for a long time because of how the country is. I see Bernie getting at least 44% of the vote and at least 150 EVs. I definitely don’t think he would have won or done better than Clinton.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:15:09am

re: #242 ObserverArt

What is “better” in your opinion? Better than Hillary?

I don’t think anyone here is saying he would have gotten hammered. I think most think he would not have won.

Actually, I am saying he would have been hammered after the GOP ran its playbook against him. There was little new they could say about Clinton — it was Comey who delivered the fatal blow. But, it would have been a total revelation when the GOP manhandled Bernie with their anti-Bernie playbook.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:15:16am

It’s moot anyhow. Clinton won the nomination legitimately. Sanders performed like a Republican with key parts of our party’s base and that was a bad harbinger IMO for anything in November. I even think the youth excited about Sanders thing gets exaggerated. Not that he didn’t have youthful minority supporters but it was much more prevalent among white kids.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:15:36am

re: #240 Ace-o-aces

I doubt Nugent knows what a metaphor is.

Ted Nugent Condemns Kathy Griffin But Calls His Obama Comments ‘Metaphor’

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:15:52am

re: #236 HappyWarrior

Funny how they never complained when Nugent actually threatened Obama.

Or when Glenn Beck brought a woman on his show costumed as Pelosi, poured a can of gasoline over her and said he was going to light a match.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:15:58am

re: #226 Ace-o-aces

Johnny Depp assassinating Trump is about as likely as Depp sobering up and becoming vaguely relevant again.

Not very.

— Paul Joseph Watson

You know who’s relevant? Paul Joseph Watson. All bow before the mighty Prison Planet trustee Paul Joseph Watson.
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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:16:01am

The latest update of the RWNJ snowflake report comes from an article at RedState whining about Sen. Warren’s ‘blood money’ tweet.

Maybe Senator Warren’s social media interns are too young and therefore too ignorant to understand what the phrase “blood money” means. Typically, it means a payment of some sort made to the next of kin of a murder victim or money paid to a hired killer.

What a United States Senator is saying in this tweet is, “The Republican health care bill is going to kill people and the money saved will be used to fund tax cuts for the Republican’s wealthy friends.”

Your point being? That is an astonishingly accurate description of the Republican health care bill from a RWNJ, possible only because said RWNJ is attempting satire.

The only ‘problem’ in the ACA that Republicans really want to fix is its taxes on the rich, and the only fix being considered is to completely remove those taxes. While they are at it, they will further cut medicaid, medicare etc because why the hell not.

In terms of the bill’s effects on the nation, I honestly find it difficult to come up with a more accurate summary than ‘people will die so that the rich can get their tax cuts’. The ACA raised taxes and it improved health care compared to before it was enacted. Substantially ending it, as the Republican bill will do, necessarily reverses these results. Again, people will die so that the rich can get their tax cuts.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:16:28am

re: #245 Hecuba’s daughter

Actually, I am saying he would have been hammered after the GOP ran its playbook against him. There was little new they could say about Clinton — it was Comey who delivered the fatal blow. But, it would have been a total revelation when the GOP manhandled Bernie with their anti-Bernie playbook.

The only thing I disagree with is people who think he would have lost as bad as McGovern, Mondale, or Goldwater. I definitely think it would have been a loss because of that and frankly I don’t think Sanders would have debated Trump as well as Clinton nor had as smart campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:17:26am

re: #247 Dr. Matt

Ted Nugent Condemns Kathy Griffin But Calls His Obama Comments ‘Metaphor’

Nugent really should do us all a favor and get lost in the woods with his beloved guns and shut his ugly mouth up. He has no right to condemn Kathy Griffin for what she did at all given his history.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:18:51am

re: #249 Sir John Barron

You know who’s relevant? Paul Joseph Watson. All bow before the mighty Prison Planet trustee Paul Joseph Watson.
///

I loved him in Alex Jones Does Dallas! //

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:19:47am

re: #228 Ace-o-aces

aceoaces @aceoaces
@RealAlexJones I’ve got information that this Depp guy is actually an ACTOR! Sounds like a #FalseFlag to me!
12:57 PM - 23 Jun 2017
Retweets likes

Why that is silly. Everyone knows that actors are the real patriots and that real politicians are the false flag actors.

Just look at Alex Jones. True Patriot.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:23:24am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

55% too low but I’ll take it.

I’d give that other 45% to those coming to grips with everything. This is going to take a lot of time for all Americans to understand and get over their ignorance of what the fuck is really going on. Some might be in shock and denial.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:23:27am

re: #228 Ace-o-aces

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The Left pushing civil war? Imax is jealous of that type of projection.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:24:06am

re: #238 Dr. Matt

That’s different because Nugent was just using a metaphor. //

Is that what we’re calling guns these days?

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:24:29am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:25:31am

re: #256 Mike Lamb

The Left pushing civil war? Imax is jealous of that type of projection.

Maybe teh right should stay out of politics and go into the movie theater business. I swear every conservative I know including my friends project like crazy. Take my wingnut friend for instance, he insists he’s for limited government but wants to drug test everyone who gets public assistance even though it’s wasteful, has no qualms about the militarization of police forces, etc. Was really glad that my brother called him out when he stupidly likened health care to a toaster. My brother, who is health conscious got tired of his constant crapping on vegans too.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:26:29am

re: #13 freetoken

A recent lecture and conversation with Lawrence Kraus:

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Video

The lecture itself is not well shot by the camera person, but the conversation is fine and starts about 38 minutes in. I think Dillahunty makes some good points relevant to our American society and engaging Americans of they hyper-religious sort.

Art & Science are my inspirations. Science is sooo very, very kewl. Hubble Telescope photos are mind blowingly beautiful!

thanks for posting this.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:28:03am

re: #257 Belafon

Is that what we’re calling guns these days?

Wait so Nugent is basically admitting he told Clinton and Obama to suck his dick? Sorry Ted, I don’t think they’d waste their good mouths on a rotten shriveled up piece of shit, and I actually don’t mean your gun collection there.

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Jenner7  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:28:52am

Trump asks Comey to drop Flynn investigation, which is a part of the whole Russia investigation.
Comey doesn’t, so he fires Comey.
Trump admits to Lester Holt he fired Comey because of Russia investigation.
Trump admits to lying about tapes to intimidate a witness.
Sean Spicer admits the same thing.

All these things still won’t get Trump impeached.

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Le Coquí Résistance  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:30:20am

re: #262 Jenner7

Trump asks Comey to drop Flynn investigation, which is a part of the whole Russia investigation.
Comey doesn’t, so he fires Comey.
Trump admits to Lester Holt he fired Comey because of Russia investigation.
Trump admits to lying about tapes to intimidate a witness.
Sean Spicer admits the same thing.

All these things still won’t get Trump impeached.

But getting a blow job in the Oval Office might!

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:33:58am

re: #262 Jenner7

Trump asks Comey to drop Flynn investigation, which is a part of the whole Russia investigation.
Comey doesn’t, so he fires Comey.
Trump admits to Lester Holt he fired Comey because of Russia investigation.
Trump admits to lying about tapes to intimidate a witness.
Sean Spicer admits the same thing.

All these things still won’t get Trump impeached.

We’re in a brave, new world now where none of this matters, the president—as long as he’s a Republican—can do whatever he wants.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:38:04am

re: #264 Sir John Barron

We’re in a brave, new world now where none of this matters, the president—as long as he’s a Republican—can do whatever he wants.

Which is all the more ironic—and moronic—because the POTUS entire campaign was pretty much LOCK HER UP!!!, implying a great concern with the ethical fulfillment of all government and political regulations and norms and the need for the public to hold its public officials accountable.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:40:51am

Good news! Horrible photo!

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:44:00am

re: #262 Jenner7

Trump asks Comey to drop Flynn investigation, which is a part of the whole Russia investigation.
Comey doesn’t, so he fires Comey.
Trump admits to Lester Holt he fired Comey because of Russia investigation.
Trump admits to lying about tapes to intimidate a witness.
Sean Spicer admits the same thing.

All these things still won’t get Trump impeached.

Too early to say I think.

We have to trust the work of Mueller and his team. If you study who is on the Mueller team of lawyers you can get an idea of the case they are building. What you list above is certainly part of that investigation and while they may not be the final points that cost Trump, they are certainly the cover over what will.

I believe, as others here do too, this is all about the money and future business and favor with and for the Russians.

To me the obvious tell in all of this is Trumps complete refusal to acknowledge anything happened with the Russians yet mention Russia and he freaks out and fires people and goes on Twitter rampages.

If he was simply not guilty of anything, then why all the histrionics?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:44:01am

re: #266 Stanley Sea

Good news! Horrible photo!

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:44:37am

re: #267 Birth Control Works

Oh yeah, he’s also lurking out there as a mess for Trump.

Manafort, that is.

The son in law appears to be a piece of work on his own, and it’s starting to look like he was doing a Ponzi scheme to defraud investors.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:45:37am

re: #265 Sir John Barron

Which is all the more ironic—and moronic—because the POTUS entire campaign was pretty much LOCK HER UP!!!, implying a great concern with the ethical fulfillment of all government and political regulations and norms and the need for the public to hold its public officials accountable.

Now the DJT WH, Fox “News”, and wingnut radio/pundit world has turned all of the valid concern with collusion and obstruction of justice and other legalities and ethical concerns as constituting the “Deep State”—an immoral and illegal attempt to overturn the election and undermine the administration, etc.

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jeffreyw  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:47:12am

Imgur

Imgur

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Mmm… cheesesteaks

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Brian J.  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:47:32am

re: #209 Unshaken Defiance

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The Inside Story of How Obama Fought Russian Influence in Our Election

Paged, fixed after some dumb mistakes that messed up the code.

Why aren’t you all accusing the Washington Post of telling lies about Obama? After all, the WaPo reached the same conclusion I did; Obama was too weak or naive to do anything substantive against the Russian/Republican threat.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:47:58am
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:50:42am

re: #273 Brian J.

Why aren’t you all accusing the Washington Post of telling lies about Obama? After all, the WaPo reached the same conclusion I did; Obama was too weak or naive to do anything substantive against the Russian/Republican threat.

Because 1) they didn’t come to that conclusion (they point out Obama authorized action - remember the sanctions - but some require Trump to finish), and 2) they’re not calling for him to be locked up.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:50:49am

re: #272 jeffreyw

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Mmm… cheesesteaks

DAMN!!!!!!!!!

(bravo, as always!)

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:52:27am

Regarding Cosby. Every once in a while I’ll meet a guy that will say something like “Steubenville , those guys went to prison, ruining their lives.” Implying that the punishment doesn’t fit the crime.

Really?

I tend not to respond because I don’t have an answer that will be helpful. (I generally think My god! U are an asshole!).

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:53:18am
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:53:55am

re: #278 FormerDirtDart

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Can we start blaming Trump for all of the airplane crashes?

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Timothy Watson  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:56:37am

re: #277 Birth Control Works

Regarding Cosby. Every once in a while I’ll meet a guy that will say something like “Steubenville , those guys went to prison, ruining their lives.” Implying that the punishment doesn’t fit the crime.

Really?

I tend not to respond because I don’t have an answer that will be helpful. (I generally think My god! U are an asshole!).

Anyone would have been charged as an adult for the crime, but a couple football players get it easy and only charged in juvenile court.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:57:36am

re: #270 lawhawk

Oh yeah, he’s also lurking out there as a mess for Trump.

It’s pretty obvious that real estate transactions are at the heart of all this. It’s not unusual for real estate transactions to be the downfall of politicians.

Big amounts of money are easily hidden in such deals. So many people have their hands in the pie it get’s very difficult to track it all. Add to that the deal took place outside of the US, in areas where bribes (duties, tribute etc) are standard operating procedure and expected (well it’s that way here to, but we find creative ways to account for them on the balance sheet), you get an easy, peazy way to hide illicit money and launder it.

This is standard operating procedure in much of the world and I think, for the uber wealthy global business types like Trump.

It stinks to high hell. Where there is stink, there is shit.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:57:58am

re: #274 FormerDirtDart

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Russia is a scam.

Both Stone & M. Kelley are fucking idiots.

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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:58:03am

re: #263 Le Coquí Résistance

But getting a blow job in the Oval Office might!

And that mental image might cause me to throw up all over my desk.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:58:23am

re: #273 Brian J.

Why aren’t you all accusing the Washington Post of telling lies about Obama? After all, the WaPo reached the same conclusion I did; Obama was too weak or naive to do anything substantive against the Russian/Republican threat.

Don’t be more of an idiot than you already have been on this subject. Notably the WaPo article didn’t accuse Obama of covering it up or being in on it (i.e., ”conspiracy”), and there were also no lurid speculations about him getting murdered.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:58:40am

re: #278 FormerDirtDart

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I’ve been to the airplane museum there. My Dear Ole’ Dad thought it was kool as hell. I was bored.

This crash looks horrendous.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:59:35am

re: #277 Birth Control Works

Regarding Cosby. Every once in a while I’ll meet a guy that will say something like “Steubenville , those guys went to prison, ruining their lives.” Implying that the punishment doesn’t fit the crime.

Really?

I tend not to respond because I don’t have an answer that will be helpful. (I generally think My god! U are an asshole!).

You should ask those guys what they’d say if their daughter, sister or girlfriend were the one raped. I don’t feel bad for people who get prosecuted for rape. Rape is a serious crime and should be treated as uch.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:59:37am

The son of “not this shit again”.

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Nyet  Jun 23, 2017 • 10:59:59am

Lolwut, the troll has gotten even worse since the last time? I thought it couldn’t get worse…

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:00:17am

re: #277 Birth Control Works

Regarding Cosby. Every once in a while I’ll meet a guy that will say something like “Steubenville , those guys went to prison, ruining their lives.” Implying that the punishment doesn’t fit the crime.

Really?

I tend not to respond because I don’t have an answer that will be helpful. (I generally think My god! U are an asshole!).

Would “Thank you. It’s helpful when likely rapists near me let me know who they are” be inappropriate?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:00:21am

re: #280 Timothy Watson

Anyone would have been charged as an adult for the crime, but a couple football players get it easy and only charged in juvenile court.

I’m a sports fan but the sports culture we have in this country. Man.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:00:25am

SpaceX launch of BulgarSat-1 in 10 minutes

BulgariaSat-1 Launch Webcast

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:01:03am

re: #287 Timothy Watson

The son of “not this shit again”.

I believe this is several generations down the road Not This Shit Again.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:01:42am

re: #291 Single-handed sailor

Looks like they delayed it 1 hour.

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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:01:58am

re: #288 Nyet

Lolwut, the troll has gotten even worse since the last time? I thought it couldn’t get worse…

Still trying to get a rise out of…someone.

I just scroll on by now. Not worth engaging.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:02:32am

re: #273 Brian J.

Why aren’t you all accusing the Washington Post of telling lies about Obama? After all, the WaPo reached the same conclusion I did; Obama was too weak or naive to do anything substantive against the Russian/Republican threat.

When you running for President Brian J.?

Someone that calls a man that actually ran for offices and became the actual President for two terms and left with one of the highest popular ratings a weak naive guy knows more and is stronger.

You are a better judge than over one half this nation.

And since you are able to make that judgement then it is time for you to show how much better you are in practice.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:02:44am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:03:25am

re: #296 FormerDirtDart

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But hey that Kathy Griffin and Johnny Depp,? So awful. // Fucking fake outrage hyenas.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:03:44am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

I’m a sports fan but the sports culture we have in this country. Man.

It’s often indistinguishable from rape culture.

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Nyet  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:03:59am

Tsk, tsk. It’s Not This Shit Again all the way down, young man.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:04:11am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

You should ask those guys what they’d say if their daughter, sister or girlfriend were the one raped. I don’t feel bad for people who get prosecuted for rape. Rape is a serious crime and should be treated as uch.

I don’t this comparison is quite accurate, but it’s the best I can come up with.

When someone get’s a ticket for speeding, you know it’s not the first time they’ve driven over the speed limit. Just the first time they’ve been caught.

It’s rather the same for rape. The % of people (men & women) who rape is small. Serial rapists are the norm. Getting caught is a relatively low risk. That charge actually making it to trial is really, really low risk. If a person is on trial for rape, it’s not a mistake. And, it’s not the first and only time they’ve committed the crime. It’s in many ways, an addiction. They won’t stop unless stopped.

So yes, with so many women coming forward accusing Cosby of this crime — Yes, I believe them.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:04:38am

re: #289 EPR-radar

Would “Thank you. It’s helpful when likely rapists near me let me know who they are” be inappropriate?

ooh good one. Actually, I think it’s more misogyny. They don’t see the woman as a person, only a vagina and, “what the hell is it there for anyway?”

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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:06:16am

In other news… Banksy’s identity revealed?

Speaking on Scroobius Pip’s weekly Distraction Pieces podcast, drum and bass star Goldie was having quite the rant about art and the way it is monetized.

Goldie particularly went in on Banksy with regards to the way his artwork is mass produced and sold for profit all over the globe, reports the Daily Mail.

On the podcast he said:

Give me a bubble letter and put it on a T-shirt and write “Banksy” on it and we’re sorted. We can sell it now.

No disrespect to Robert, I think he is a brilliant artist. I think he has flipped the world of art over.

Wait, what was that? Robert? Who the fuck is Robert?

Well - now people believe Goldie has put the final piece in the puzzle, confirming speculation that has been rife for years. Banksy is….

[Click-baity teaser]More at the link. The answer will surprise and amaze you!!![/click-baity teaser]

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:06:22am

re: #294 makeitstop

Still trying to get a rise out of…someone.

I just scroll on by now. Not worth engaging.

I found the garlic, BTW.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:06:30am

re: #300 Birth Control Works

I don’t this comparison is quite accurate, but it’s the best I can come up with.

When someone get’s a ticket for speeding, you know it’s not the first time they’ve driven over the speed limit. Just the first time they’ve been caught.

It’s rather the same for rape. The % of people (men & women) who rape is small. Serial rapists are the norm. Getting caught is a relatively low risk. That charge actually making it to trial is really, really low risk. If a person is on trial for rape, it’s not a mistake. And, it’s not the first and only time they’ve committed the crime. It’s in many ways, an addiction. They won’t stop unless stopped.

So yes, with so many women coming forward accusing Cosby of this crime — Yes, I believe them.

Yeah I see what you mean. And I believe Cosby’s accusers too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:07:06am

re: #298 EPR-radar

It’s often indistinguishable from rape culture.

Which sucks because sports can be a wonderful thing for communities especially kids.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:07:43am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

You should ask those guys what they’d say if their daughter, sister or girlfriend were the one raped. I don’t feel bad for people who get prosecuted for rape. Rape is a serious crime and should be treated as uch.

These are the guys that don’t see their daughter, sister or girlfriend as people —they are extensions of the man himself. So if one of them is violated, it is a violation against him —property rights as it were.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:09:13am

re: #306 Birth Control Works

These are the guys that don’t see their daughter, sister or girlfriend as people —they are extensions of the man himself. So if one of them is violated, it is a violation against him —property rights as it were.

Worth an effort. But yes.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:09:17am

re: #299 Nyet

Tsk, tsk. It’s Not This Shit Again all the way down, young man.

wait, it thought it was Turtles all the way down.

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CongoJack  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:10:11am

re: #306 Birth Control Works

These are the guys that don’t see their daughter, sister or girlfriend as people —they are extensions of the man himself. So if one of them is violated, it is a violation against him —property rights as it were.

Goes in the same realm of “honor killings.” The right wing of many cultures/countries intersect here.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:10:18am

Since we’re on the topic of food and grilling (mmmm… gamy buttocks), I made the first batch of scape pesto this year. Yum! Picked up a bunch of scapes at the local farmer’s market and then blended the pesto (I use an immersion blender, but you can use a food processor or a blender), EVOO, and threw in some walnuts plus salt and pepper and a bit of lemon juice.

Super easy to make and it can be added to soups, sauces, or as base for a marinade. The Mrs. puts it straight on salads, and I’ve used it straight on steaks or chicken.

I usually buy a batch of scapes and then freeze the pesto for use the rest of the year (it freezes super well, and you can batch it as ice cube size too).

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:10:36am

Shhhh, don’t tell the weather, but I think it’s getting cooler. I wanted to die a little less on this morning’s run.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:11:45am

re: #309 CongoJack

Goes in the same realm of “honor killings.” The right wing of many cultures/countries intersect here.

Indeed.

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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:12:37am

My new ‘Not this shit again’ image…

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:13:38am

re: #296 FormerDirtDart

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I saw that miserable POS in Concord a few months ago crossing the street. No, I would never think of violence, but I should have given him a piece of my mind.

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Nyet  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:16:38am

re: #308 Birth Control Works

You’ve been deceived by the Illuminati but now you know the truth.

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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:16:49am

re: #285 Birth Control Works

I’ve been to the airplane museum there. My Dear Ole’ Dad thought it was kool as hell. I was bored.

This crash looks horrendous.

No fire, though. Could have been survivable.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:17:35am

re: #291 Single-handed sailor

SpaceX launch of BulgarSat-1 in 10 minutes

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I can’t watch the video, but are we going to terraform Mars? That’s what I’m getting from the still of the video.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:17:37am
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Nyet  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:20:18am

I’m finally on season 7 of Adventure Time and so far it has kept getting better and better.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:22:42am

re: #281 Birth Control Works

It’s pretty obvious that real estate transactions are at the heart of all this. It’s not unusual for real estate transactions to be the downfall of politicians.

Let us not forget the sad sad story of Randy “Duke” Cunningham, former congressman from San Diego (and role model for Tom Cruise’s character in Top Gun).

A local paper took to wondering about his house when he moved, so just out of curiosity they pulled up property sale records. Turns out, Duke sold his house for about twice market value, the purchaser was a brand-new startup defense contractor. He used the money to buy another, bigger house in a more desirable location, for about half market value, the seller was another brand-new startup defense contractor.

By some astonishing coincidence, both of these brand-new startup defense contractors got ENORMOUS cost-plus no-bid contracts through the subcommittee he was chair of.

Cunningham was able to plea-bargain down to only an 8-year prison term.

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Nyet  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:25:14am

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covfefe  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:26:07am

re: #319 Nyet

WHAT TIME IS IT?! :))))

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:27:07am

re: #309 CongoJack

Goes in the same realm of “honor killings.” The right wing of many cultures/countries intersect here.

exactly. I have a graphic somewhere by Thackery. I think he explains it very well. Let me see …

not yet, but I found this:

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:28:13am

Mind blown: I just discovered that the actress Jenny from Forrest Gump is Claire Underwood.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:29:07am

re: #296 FormerDirtDart

Didn’t mean it, metaphor, Oh, who cares, yes he meant it and it was fine shut up snowflake libs but treat our new POTUS with RESPECT!!!!

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:29:38am

re: #324 Dr. Matt

Mind blown: I just discovered that the actress Jenny from Forrest Gump is Claire Underwood.

OK, but try to keep up.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:30:57am

re: #326 Sir John Barron

OK, but try to keep up.

Working on it.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:35:03am

bullshit

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:37:18am

re: #323 Birth Control Works

ah:

William Thackery, Vanity Fair (Novel) -1848

We are Turks with the affections of our women; and have made them subscribe to our doctrine too. We let their bodies go abroad liberally enough, with smiles and ringlets and pink bonnets to disguise them instead of veils and yakmaks. But their souls must be seen by only one man, and they obey not unwillingly, and consent to remain at home as our slaves—ministering to us and doing drudgery for us.

Trivia: Inspired by Pilgrims Progress by John Bunyan —which has been the inspiration for many a book and movie. Most Recently (IIRC) Big Fish.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:39:37am

OT crap because it is Friday and I can.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:42:24am

re: #310 lawhawk

Since we’re on the topic of food and grilling (mmmm… gamy buttocks), I made the first batch of scape pesto this year. Yum! Picked up a bunch of scapes at the local farmer’s market and then blended the pesto (I use an immersion blender, but you can use a food processor or a blender), EVOO, and threw in some walnuts plus salt and pepper and a bit of lemon juice.

Super easy to make and it can be added to soups, sauces, or as base for a marinade. The Mrs. puts it straight on salads, and I’ve used it straight on steaks or chicken.

I usually buy a batch of scapes and then freeze the pesto for use the rest of the year (it freezes super well, and you can batch it as ice cube size too).

I had to look up scapes.

Never seen em. Lucky you.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:43:33am

re: #324 Dr. Matt

Mind blown: I just discovered that the actress Jenny from Forrest Gump is Claire Underwood.

Have you seen Wonder Woman yet?

Edit: Santa Barbara, and the Princess Bride.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:43:53am

re: #330 klys (maker of Silmarils)

OT crap because it is Friday and I can.

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So jealous!

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:44:38am

re: #319 Nyet

I’m finally on season 7 of Adventure Time and so far it has kept getting better and better.

Rebecca Sugar, who did a lot of the songs, and came up with the storyline behind Simon and Marceline, is the creator of Steven Universe.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:45:45am

re: #331 Stanley Sea

I had to look up scapes.

Never seen em. Lucky you.

Yes, VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY:

garlic scape
What: These strange-looking, curly, deep-green stalks are the shoots that grow from garlic bulbs. They are a bit like asparagus in texture, but have a distinct garlicky taste that’s a little milder than the bulbs.

When: Usually available within a three week window between mid-June and mid-July across the country, according to UBC Farm at the University of British Columbia.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:46:48am

re: #320 sagehen

He out yet or still in clink?

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William Lewis  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:48:51am

re: #273 Brian J.

Grow up, ass.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:49:50am

re: #336 Sir John Barron

He out yet or still in clink?

He served his full term, and is out now.

Also… the US Attorney who prosecuted his case, was one of the ones fired by Bush/Gonzalez in the US Atty scandal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:51:42am
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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:52:53am

re: #320 sagehen

Let us not forget the sad sad story of Randy “Duke” Cunningham, former congressman from San Diego (and role model for Tom Cruise’s character in Top Gun).

A local paper took to wondering about his house when he moved, so just out of curiosity they pulled up property sale records. Turns out, Duke sold his house for about twice market value, the purchaser was a brand-new startup defense contractor. He used the money to buy another, bigger house in a more desirable location, for about half market value, the seller was another brand-new startup defense contractor.

By some astonishing coincidence, both of these brand-new startup defense contractors got ENORMOUS cost-plus no-bid contracts through the subcommittee he was chair of.

Cunningham was able to plea-bargain down to only an 8-year prison term.

Oh, we had a big tado with Rezko and something with Hastert and the funding bill he championed —now I forget it’s name —road improvement —he benefited from land sale on it I think. (thinkprogress.org)

for some reason I can’t always insert the code. I hit the button at the top of the box and it just takes me to the top of the page.

nearly nap time

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:54:19am

re: #317 Belafon

I can’t watch the video, but are we going to terraform Mars? That’s what I’m getting from the still of the video.

Yes, Slartibartfast gets to design the coastline.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:54:56am

re: #322 covfefe

WHAT TIME IS IT?! :))))

naptime

bbl

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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2017 • 11:57:31am

Taking Klys’ cue on OT Friday stuff…

I built this guitar a couple of years ago, and it’s been hanging around in my studio pretty much ever since. I brought it up into the office this morning and plugged it in (since I really don’t feel like working much today), and I’m surprised at how different it sounds from any other guitar I’ve got. The pickups are positively bell-like.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:00:34pm

re: #341 Birth Control Works

Yes, Slartibartfast gets to design the coastline.

“Gives a continent a lovely, Baroque feel”

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:05:18pm

Space X is launching a Bulgarian Satellite in < 5 mins

BulgariaSat-1 Launch Webcast

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:07:04pm
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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:10:01pm

re: #345 Dr. Matt

Space X is launching a Bulgarian Satellite in

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10 Seconds…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:10:27pm

*blink*

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:13:28pm

re: #343 makeitstop

Taking Klys’ cue on OT Friday stuff…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:14:30pm

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

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Blue lives matter.//

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:14:44pm

Study: White Christians have a blind spot in detecting racial inequality:

One of the most notable markers of difference in how people perceive prejudice in America turns out to be faith identity. The American Values Atlas by the nonpartisan Public Religion Research Institute reveals marked discrepancies in how members of different faith traditions perceive prejudice against African Americans, immigrants, and members of the LGBTQ community. The biggest divide? As Dr. Robert Jones, PRRI’s CEO and author of The End of White Christian America, told Vox, it’s between “white Christian groups — and everybody else.”

h/t Daily Kos

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William Lewis  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:14:51pm

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

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But only blue lives matter… Sorry I can’t​ say anything more.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:15:35pm

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

My mom worked at a prison, so I’ve been having fights with her over the cases where cops kill blacks. I’m going to throw this one in her face.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:16:58pm
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Broad With Sass  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:17:52pm

re: #347 Dr. Matt

Went out and watched it from the end of the driveway..SpaceEx is always prompt :)

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:19:38pm

This has happened to me before. Of course you pass it on.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:20:11pm

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“Aw, PLEASE?”

“Oh…Okay!”

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:20:22pm

re: #355 Broad With Sass

Went out and watched it from the end of the driveway..SpaceEx is always prompt :)

You live in Titusville?

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:21:00pm

re: #345 Dr. Matt

Space X is launching a Bulgaria Satellite in < 5 mins

[Embedded content]

Another first stage recovery landing stuck. Great job SpaceX.

Too bad they lost their cameras, it would have been nice to see it.

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:21:09pm

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

[Black off-duty cop tries to help with crash. Ordered to ground. Recognized, told he can get up. Shot by other cop.]

Even joining the club offers no protection from the other members.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:21:20pm
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Sir John Barron  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:21:52pm

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

“It’s not even the question…what is the question?”

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:22:00pm

re: #359 ObserverArt

Another first stage recovery landing stuck. Great job SpaceX.

Too bad they lost their cameras, it would have been nice to see it.

Yeah. It cut out at the worst possible time.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:22:33pm

I want a timeline of when the yam started using the words “rigged election”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:23:30pm

re: #363 Dr. Matt

Yeah. It cut out at the worst possible time.

My guess is the data is recorded and intact, it’s just the landing vibrations that disrupt signal transmission.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:23:50pm

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

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How many stories like this will it take for this damn country to recognize we have a very bad police problem? And this one points out what the problem is. Can it be any more clear it has to do with race and bigotry.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:24:00pm

Call me cynical, but I don’t think most Trump supporters are smart enough to realize who’s fucking them.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:24:28pm

re: #365 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And yes, this technically should read “data are” instead of “data is” but I really only double check that in scientific papers. The rest of the time I can get away with it because I am a native English speaker and therefore get to ignore the rules whenever I feel like.

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Jenner7  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:25:22pm

re: #364 Stanley Sea

I’m betting the same time Bernie Bro’s started calling the primary rigged.

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Broad With Sass  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:26:26pm

re: #358 Dr. Matt

You live in Titusville?

Melbourne so I see it starting 5 seconds after the actual launch

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:26:53pm

re: #368 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And yes, this technically should read “data are” instead of “data is” but I really only double check that in scientific papers. The rest of the time I can get away with it because I am a native English speaker and therefore get to ignore the rules whenever I feel like.

Sort of like how I tend to go along with using ‘theory’ to mean ‘hypothesis’ in conversations with laypeople. So they don’t think I have a stick up my ass….

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:27:26pm

re: #365 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My guess is the data is recorded and intact, it’s just the landing vibrations that disrupt signal transmission.

IT’S ALL BULLSHIT!! IT’S FAKE!!!

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:27:50pm

re: #367 Blind Frog Belly White

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Call me cynical, but I don’t think most Trump supporters are smart enough to realize who’s fucking them.

They’ll blame it on Obamacare.

Guaranteed.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:28:27pm

re: #370 Broad With Sass

Melbourne so I see it starting 5 seconds after the actual launch

I lived in Melboring for several years. Nice, quiet little city. Good surf.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:28:32pm

re: #373 Stanley Sea

They’ll blame it on Obamacare.

Guaranteed.

Remember, Obamacare is failing.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:29:03pm

re: #364 Stanley Sea

I want a timeline of when the yam started using the words “rigged election”

You can be sure it was about the time he knew the election was rigged.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:29:27pm

re: #369 Jenner7

I’m betting the same time Bernie Bro’s started calling the primary rigged.

I’m thinking that Flynn, Cohen or Manafort got the heads up & let the yam know.

Dog I hope this shit blows up.

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Broad With Sass  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:30:12pm

re: #374 Dr. Matt

You really did live here, I can tell since used the locals name for it :)

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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:30:56pm

re: #349 wrenchwench

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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:31:05pm

re: #330 klys (maker of Silmarils)

OT crap because it is Friday and I can.

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If you have time, I strongly suggest you check out this site:

walks.com

The walks are just outstanding and take just a couple of hours. Informative, amusing guides well steeped in their history. Well worth the value of a tenner.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:35:00pm

re: #351 Belafon

Study: White Christians have a blind spot in detecting racial inequality:

Doesn’t surprise me. Many though far from all White Christians have preachers telling them they’re the real victims of oppression in 2017 America.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:35:46pm

re: #367 Blind Frog Belly White

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Call me cynical, but I don’t think most Trump supporters are smart enough to realize who’s fucking them.

I don’t think so either unfortunately.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:38:41pm

re: #367 Blind Frog Belly White

The thing I keep seeing people not get:

The just-so story that buoys the GOP is that race and economics intersect whenever you have to explain a failure of capitalism and/or government to meet their constituents’needs. Whenever white people struggle, the “answer” the wingnut culture provides is not that the system is flawed or being exploited by the wealthy, but that “others”—African Americans and foreign brown people are cheating and taking away what is rightfully theirs.

Whether its job retention, insurance, the stock market, or business failure, the immediately-available explanation is: there was a stab in the back.

The other side of the same coin is that the “right” kinds of people can do no wrong, and cannot err, so when a market collapses or there’s fraud or other shady dealings, it’s not their fault because they either deserve to do it (because it’s pushback versus the stab-in-the-back) or because the people affected deserve it (because they’re a priori undeserving).

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:39:11pm

You couldn’t get a job at Chipotle if they saw this shit.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:39:35pm

re: #384 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

The thing I keep seeing people not get:

The just-so story that buoys the GOP is that race and economics intersect whenever you have to explain a failure of capitalism and/or government to meet their constituents. Whenever white people struggle, the “answer” their culture provides is not that the system is flawed or being exploited by the wealthy, but that “others”—African Americans and foreign brown people are cheating and taking away what is rightfully

Whether its job retention, insurance, the stock market, or business failure, the immediately-available explanation is: there was a stab in the back.

The other side of the same coin is that the “right” kinds of people can do no wrong, and cannot err, so when a market collapses or there’s fraud or other shady dealings, it’s not their fault because they either deserve to do it (because it’s pushback versus the stab-in-the-back) or because the people affected deserve it (because they’re a priori undeserving).

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:40:20pm

re: #385 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

You couldn’t get a job at Chipotle if they saw this shit.

He sounds nice.//

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:42:06pm

re: #384 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

The thing I keep seeing people not get:

The just-so story that buoys the GOP is that race and economics intersect whenever you have to explain a failure of capitalism and/or government to meet their constituents. Whenever white people struggle, the “answer” their culture provides is not that the system is flawed or being exploited by the wealthy, but that “others”—African Americans and foreign brown people are cheating and taking away what is rightfully

Whether its job retention, insurance, the stock market, or business failure, the immediately-available explanation is: there was a stab in the back.

The other side of the same coin is that the “right” kinds of people can do no wrong, and cannot err, so when a market collapses or there’s fraud or other shady dealings, it’s not their fault because they either deserve to do it (because it’s pushback versus the stab-in-the-back) or because the people affected deserve it (because they’re a priori undeserving).

A rich guy, a WWC guy, and The Other are in a room. Somebody brings in 100 cookies. The rich guy takes 98 of them, then whispers to the WWC, “That Other guy wants your cookie”.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:43:49pm

re: #352 William Lewis

But only blue lives matter… Sorry I can’t​ say anything more.

Unless they’re FBI agents.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:44:59pm

re: #388 Blind Frog Belly White

A rich guy, a WWC guy, and The Other are in a room. Somebody brings in 100 cookies. The rich guy takes 98 of them, then whispers to the WWC, “That Other guy wants your cookie”.

Yep. Observation here, but I think socialist policies may have succeeded more in Europe because finding an other to scapegoat was harder. There are other factors too of course.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:45:35pm

Everything is under control.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:45:36pm

re: #389 Timothy Watson

Unless they’re FBI agents.

D-d-d-d-deep state!

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:46:51pm

re: #356 Stanley Sea

I was in Nashville a while back, and someone ended up buying our dinner for us (picked up the tab). We ended up paying it on in the form of big tips the rest of the trip to the wait staff. They’re the ones who do the hard work.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:48:41pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:49:05pm

re: #391 Stanley Sea

Everything is under control.

[Embedded content]

This is Putin saying, “Look how completely I own your President, that I can do this with no fear of a response.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:50:11pm

re: #394 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

This is so surreal.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:50:58pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

This is so surreal.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:51:53pm

re: #397 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

[Embedded content]

Hahaha.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:52:11pm

re: #393 lawhawk

I was in Nashville a while back, and someone ended up buying our dinner for us (picked up the tab). We ended up paying it on in the form of big tips the rest of the trip to the wait staff. They’re the ones who do the hard work.

Last week I was the third car in the drive-thru at Starbucks. There was a very attractive blonde woman in a convertible (second car) ahead of me. The car in front of her (first car) bought her Starbucks….and that’s where the pay-it-forward ended. :\

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:53:01pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

This is so surreal.

The media would have been calling for impeachment and public hanging if this happened under Obama.

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:53:10pm

re: #302 makeitstop

In other news… Banksy’s identity revealed?

[Click-baity teaser]More at the link. The answer will surprise and amaze you!!![/click-baity teaser]

No Cliff Notes version?

402
jaunte  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:54:05pm

re: #394 Dr. Matt

Sketch artist made Spicer three inches taller.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:54:10pm

re: #395 Blind Frog Belly White

This is Putin saying, “Look how completely I own your President, that I can do this with no fear of a response.”

I wonder what is going on at the Joint Chiefs of Staff and others at The Pentagon these days?

There has got to be much mumbling about the Commander in Chief.

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Le Coquí Résistance  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:54:25pm

re: #283 makeitstop

And that mental image might cause me to throw up all over my desk.

I’m sorry. :(

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:54:56pm

re: #400 Dr. Matt

The media would have been calling for impeachment and public hanging if this happened under Obama.

Yeah. GOP too.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:54:56pm

re: #402 jaunte

Sketch artist made Spicer three inches taller.

And 30 lbs thinner.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:55:12pm

re: #402 jaunte

Sketch artist made Spicer three inches taller.

Thinner too.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:55:33pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:56:44pm

re: #408 jaunte

[Embedded content]

This.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 12:56:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:00:01pm

re: #408 jaunte

[Embedded content]

In some ways, Coulter’s fucked up belief proved correct. Hopefully next time, we avoid it but we can’t underestimate that bigotry still sells.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:03:32pm

Uh, so there’s some kind of new protocol we follow wrt OT stuff? Please advise.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:04:30pm

re: #412 Amory Blaine

Just post it!

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:04:47pm

Maybe this will change his wishy washy language.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:05:00pm

I am thoroughly rattled today. Mega pow wow at work with many different engineers and they’re all RWNJ.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:05:46pm

re: #414 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

That sounds smart. They did so well in Nevada.//

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freetoken  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:05:57pm

re: #415 Amory Blaine

I am thoroughly rattled today. Mega pow wow at work with many different engineers and they’re all RWNJ.

Be sure to wear an Obama shirt next time??

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:06:37pm

re: #415 Amory Blaine

I am thoroughly rattled today. Mega pow wow at work with many different engineers and they’re all RWNJ.

I try to play ignorant if I’m outnumbered politically sometimes. Just not worth it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:07:29pm

re: #417 freetoken

Be sure to wear an Obama shirt next time??

I’m subtle. I wear a Don’t Blame Me, I Voted For Kodos shirt sometimes.

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freetoken  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:07:33pm

re: #415 Amory Blaine

Also, try a Darwin shirt… see what happens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:07:39pm

re: #412 Amory Blaine

Uh, so there’s some kind of new protocol we follow wrt OT stuff? Please advise.

klys hid it because (I think) there is someone who generally downdings her posts about running.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:07:45pm

re: #408 jaunte

Yes, indeed, this times 10^10. Fuckface von Clownstick was on the ballot and there are only two possible alternatives:

1) The election was fair, or

2) The election was close enough for some combination of Republicans and Russians to steal.

For either alternative, you have tens of millions of Americans that looked at that piece of shit and voted for it to be president, and millions more who had no sense of urgency about stopping said piece of shit from being president.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:08:32pm

re: #415 Amory Blaine

I am thoroughly rattled today. Mega pow wow at work with many different engineers and they’re all RWNJ.

A lot of engineers are creationists. They don’t have to understand science, and were trained to see everything as engineering.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:09:24pm

re: #421 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gahh, f that! Some of us lazy bums need to see that there is another way!

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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:09:26pm

re: #401 MsJ

No Cliff Notes version?

It’s the keyboard player from Massive Attack.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:09:59pm

My one wingnut friend when he visited once wanted to watch Hillary’s America. Don’t know why he became not just right wing but stupid right wing to where he actually calls people pieces of shit for their dietary choices.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:10:21pm
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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:11:03pm

re: #412 Amory Blaine

Uh, so there’s some kind of new protocol we follow wrt OT stuff? Please advise.

Nah, I just saw that Klys hid hers, so I did the same.

Makes it easier to scroll by if you’re not interested.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:11:18pm

re: #421 Backwoods_Sleuth

klys hid it because (I think) there is someone who generally downdings her posts about running.

Pretty much this. I choose to spare those who don’t care. :)

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Decatur Deb  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:11:42pm

re: #408 jaunte

[Embedded content]

I have an idea. Let’s start a bunch of blue-on-blue racial shit within the progressive resistance.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:11:50pm

re: #423 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

A lot of engineers are creationists. They don’t have to understand science, and were trained to see everything as engineering.

Engineers I’ve heard are a generally consecutive leaning bunch from what I understand. Not all but it’s interesting to note that one of my Republican extended family members is one and he used to get in some heated discussions with his father in law, my grandfather.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:13:58pm

re: #429 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Pretty much this. I choose to spare those who don’t care. :)

I can’t believe you’d get dd’d for posting about running. I mean I dislike running but I’d never DD someone over a hobby like that.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:14:50pm

re: #384 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

The thing I keep seeing people not get:

The just-so story that buoys the GOP is that race and economics intersect whenever you have to explain a failure of capitalism and/or government to meet their constituents’needs. Whenever white people struggle, the “answer” the wingnut culture provides is not that the system is flawed or being exploited by the wealthy, but that “others”—African Americans and foreign brown people are cheating and taking away what is rightfully theirs.

You are 100% right

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:15:18pm

re: #421 Backwoods_Sleuth

klys hid it because (I think) there is someone who generally downdings her posts about running.

WHAT?!?

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:15:34pm

re: #432 HappyWarrior

I can’t believe you’d get dd’d for posting about running. I mean I dislike running but I’d never DD someone over a hobby like that.

Wait. Is ‘DD’ Decatur Deb or downding? Or both?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:15:59pm

re: #432 HappyWarrior

I can’t believe you’d get dd’d for posting about running. I mean I dislike running but I’d never DD someone over a hobby like that.

HOW CAN YOU DISLIKE RUNNING???

///

It’s definitely OT so I guess I could see someone maybe being irritated over it but whatever, I will just keep making it easier for the people who don’t care to skip over. Polite thing to do anyway.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:16:11pm

re: #434 Blind Frog Belly White

WHAT?!?

Running is an outrage. No horseplay either.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:16:38pm

re: #435 wrenchwench

Wait. Is ‘DD’ Decatur Deb or downding? Or both?

He hasn’t shown up on any of my runs so…

439
Decatur Deb  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:16:44pm

re: #435 wrenchwench

Wait. Is ‘DD’ Decatur Deb or downding? Or both?

I save all my opprobrium for square dancers.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:16:48pm

re: #421 Backwoods_Sleuth

klys hid it because (I think) there is someone who generally downdings her posts about running.

We don’t have a button for “this makes me feel guilty for being a layabout.”

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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:17:04pm

re: #438 klys (maker of Silmarils)

He hasn’t shown up on any of my runs so…

Yet.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:17:32pm

re: #440 jaunte

We don’t have a button for “this make me feel guilty for being a layabout.”

I don’t even post here after every run.

Well, I mean, I sort of do. But not about every run. ;)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:18:16pm

re: #435 wrenchwench

Wait. Is ‘DD’ Decatur Deb or downding? Or both?

Both. But downding in this case since I’ve never known DD to DD. :)

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:19:12pm

re: #439 Decatur Deb

I save all my opprobrium for square dancers.

The good stuff is for the hip?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:19:13pm

re: #436 klys (maker of Silmarils)

HOW CAN YOU DISLIKE RUNNING???

///

It’s definitely OT so I guess I could see someone maybe being irritated over it but whatever, I will just keep making it easier for the people who don’t care to skip over. Polite thing to do anyway.

Easy, I’m flat footed and have a heart condition.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:19:48pm

re: #443 HappyWarrior

Both. But downding in this case since I’ve never known DD to DD. :)

“I seem to be a verb.”
—Bucky

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:20:06pm

re: #443 HappyWarrior

Both. But downding in this case since I’ve never known DD to DD. :)

He updings everybody. Even when they post dumb stuff.

448
FormerDirtDart  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:20:09pm

Of note, there are only “4” E-4Bs in existence.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:20:42pm

re: #446 Decatur Deb

“I seem to be a verb.”
—Bucky

Could be worse. Could be an expletive.

450
Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:20:51pm

re: #436 klys (maker of Silmarils)

HOW CAN YOU DISLIKE RUNNING???

///

It’s definitely OT so I guess I could see someone maybe being irritated over it but whatever, I will just keep making it easier for the people who don’t care to skip over. Polite thing to do anyway.

I used to love running when I was in my early 20s. Gets to be more of a chore later, what with joints and all, but I still remember specific runs from 35 years ago - the ones where you do 3 more miles than usual because you feel so good, or that time when it had just snowed and the only sound apart from my breathing was the *squinch, squinch* of the snow under my feet.

Once I started riding, though, I found I much prefer it. I can actually push harder for longer, but more than that - the scenery changes at just the right speed.

And as I jokingly said to Mrs. FBW, “It’s low-impact. Unless you run into something!”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:21:30pm

re: #447 wrenchwench

He updings everybody. Even when they post dumb stuff.

Haha exactly and he’ll upding this just like he updinged my metapost.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:21:53pm

Anyway now to go run (errands).

453
Decatur Deb  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:22:29pm

re: #447 wrenchwench

He updings everybody. Even when they post dumb stuff.

Nope. I have a strategy.

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:24:47pm

re: #450 Blind Frog Belly White

I used to love running when I was in my early 20s. Gets to be more of a chore later, what with joints and all, but I still remember specific runs from 35 years ago - the ones where you do 3 more miles than usual because you feel so good, or that time when it had just snowed and the only sound apart from my breathing was the *squinch, squinch* of the snow under my feet.

Once I started riding, though, I found I much prefer it. I can actually push harder for longer, but more than that - the scenery changes at just the right speed.

And as I jokingly said to Mrs. FBW, “It’s low-impact. Unless you run into something!”

I am the envy of all the old ladies, and a few gentlemen, because I can ‘run’ at my age. It’s because I rode a bike all my life. Now those who can ride a bike are the ones I envy.

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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:24:56pm

re: #453 Decatur Deb

Nope. I have a strategy.

[Embedded content]

Are you the mouse, or are we?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:25:05pm

re: #415 Amory Blaine

I am thoroughly rattled today. Mega pow wow at work with many different engineers and they’re all RWNJ.

My brother is an engineer and is totally a RWNJ. He went crazy after 9/11 and never recovered. He doesn’t care about certain culture issues but believes every lie told about Hillary, except Pizzagate. He also justifies every tax cut for the rich, thinks Trump is a brilliant business man, believes in the Laffer curve and the Seth Rich conspiracy and worships the Koch Bros. And doesn’t think the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere is a serious, perhaps existential crisis

457
Decatur Deb  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:25:30pm

re: #455 makeitstop

Are you the mouse, or are we?

Your version includes an electrical grid.

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:26:09pm

re: #453 Decatur Deb

Nope. I have a strategy.

[Embedded content]

I updinged. Where’s my food pellet?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:27:31pm

re: #455 makeitstop

Are you the mouse, or are we?

Hey, it could be worse. We could be Shrodinger’s cat - both up- and down-dinged, till we look to see.

460
Decatur Deb  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:27:45pm

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:29:54pm

Friday’s are good for music videos around here. I found this the other day and I was completely taken back to seeing them around the very same time on their first tour of America.

I think I mentioned before how a lot of Brit bands would start an American tour in Ohio with the three Agora Ballrooms on the schedule. It gave them three decent venues only 200 miles or so apart from each other in Cleveland, Columbus and Toledo. They could get in a groove without a lot of travel and in front of usually appreciative audiences.

When my buddies and I saw them, the crowd was small because a lot of people weren’t familiar with the band. That allowed us to plop right down in front and take in the total enchantment that was Genesis with Peter Gabriel.

You don’t have to like rock to like Genesis as they were quite classical, but if you listen closely they had some rockin’ power too.

But what really made them was the small one song plays Gabriel would perform in costumes with vocal inflections, mime and classic story telling. He was and still is one of the most unique entertainers ever.

It’s a full hour long and it captures the band and Gabriel perfectly. Watch Gabriel closely for all his little actions that made his “characters” so much fun.

Enjoy!

Genesis: Live 1973 - First time in HD with Enhanced Soundtrack

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:30:01pm

re: #456 Hecuba’s daughter

My brother is an engineer and is totally a RWNJ. He went crazy after 9/11 and never recovered. He doesn’t care about certain culture issues but believes every lie told about Hillary, except Pizzagate. He also justifies every tax cut for the rich, thinks Trump is a brilliant business man, believes in the Laffer curve and the Seth Rich conspiracy and worships the Koch Bros. And doesn’t think the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere is a serious, perhaps existential crisis

This is the difference between scientists and engineers - scientists are trained how to evaluate data. Engineers are given a set of rules to follow. Scientists would question the rules. Engineers question the data.

463
Decatur Deb  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:32:41pm

I am told to harvest peppers. BBL

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:37:33pm

re: #77 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

[Embedded content]

Yeah, it’s disgusting out there - super high humidity and it’s already so muggy that it’s just disgusting out there. If I wanted to live in a goddamned rain forest, I would move to the Virgin Islands.

Brings back memories of growing up in Pittsburgh when just trying to sleep was a struggle between May and October because of the high humidity punctuated by massive thunderstorms. Rarely does it get too humid here in Los Angeles and for that I AM grateful!

465
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:55:06pm

re: #426 HappyWarrior

My one wingnut friend when he visited once wanted to watch Hillary’s America. Don’t know why he became not just right wing but stupid right wing to where he actually calls people pieces of shit for their dietary choices.

Happy, I still remember how Milo and his thugs threatened to disrupt the RAZZIE Awards this year because Dimwit D’Stupid got a lot of nominations for his propaganda film. Because of that we couldn’t have the ceremony this year, but we sure did stick it to that adulterous asshole by awarding him a nice bunch of Razzies for that libelous crap! And yes he had to get on You Tube with a bunch of his fellow thugs to whine…

466
KerFuFFler  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:00:13pm

re: #366 ObserverArt

How many stories like this will it take for this damn country to recognize we have a very bad police problem? And this one points out what the problem is. Can it be any more clear it has to do with race and bigotry.

You might want to check out this post at Gin and Tacos.

Here’s a teaser:

Turns out, perhaps unsurprisingly, that a lot of contractors who market themselves to police departments under the guise of “training” are absolute lunatics.

The officer recently found not guilty of manslaughter in the Philando Castile shooting, for example, attended a training session for something called “Bulletproof Warrior,” an odd name for a program aimed at police officers who are neither bulletproof nor “warriors.” The gist of the program is that every suspect is waiting to kill you, it will happen in the blink of an eye, and the Bulletproof Warrior must silence that nagging voice in his head that says not to kill people. Kill or be killed, so you better hurry up and shoot the suspect before he shoots you….

…..Also take a look at this guy named Dave Grossmann (who was featured in the 2016 documentary Do Not Resist) who promises trainees that they will have the best sex of their lives on the day they finally kill someone.

Damn!

467
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:04:31pm

re: #461 ObserverArt

Friday’s are good for music videos around here. I found this the other day and I was completely taken back to seeing them around the very same time on their first tour of America.

I think I mentioned before how a lot of Brit bands would start an American tour in Ohio with the three Agora Ballrooms on the schedule. It gave them three decent venues only 200 miles or so apart from each other in Cleveland, Columbus and Toledo. They could get in a groove without a lot of travel and in front of usually appreciative audiences.

When my buddies and I saw them, the crowd was small because a lot of people weren’t familiar with the band. That allowed us to plop right down in front and take in the total enchantment that was Genesis with Peter Gabriel.

You don’t have to like rock to like Genesis as they were quite classical, but if you listen closely they had some rockin’ power too.

But what really made them was the small one song plays Gabriel would perform in costumes with vocal inflections, mime and classic story telling. He was and still is one of the most unique entertainers ever.

It’s a full hour long and it captures the band and Gabriel perfectly. Watch Gabriel closely for all his little actions that made his “characters” so much fun.

Enjoy!

[Embedded content]

OMG! Brings back memories of seeing them in Pittsburgh back in the mid-70s! Thanks for posting!!!!!

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retired cynic  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:20:31pm

re: #329 Birth Control Works

ah:

William Thackery, Vanity Fair (Novel) -1848

That was my husband’s pick as best book ever. He was an English major, you see.


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