Trump Lashes Out at His Own White House Counsel

He’s losing it more and more
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Our thin-skinned narcissistic so-called president is now lashing out at his own loyal supporters, including White House counsel Don McGahn.

Trump started the week by giving McGahn, a loyal supporter who was among the first Washington establishment figures to sign on with his presidential campaign, a dressing down in the Oval Office for not doing more to quash the Russia probe early on.

The episode — recounted by four people familiar with the conversation — came as part of a broader discussion on Monday about the president’s frustrations with special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, which now includes the question of whether Trump himself tried to obstruct the investigation by firing FBI Director James Comey.

And to make himself feel better, the yammering yam got on Twitter again early this morning with an absurd boast that reveals his near-total ignorance of what governing really means.

These “Legislative Bills” he so weirdly capitalized were actually executive orders, and he appears to be completely clueless that they’re not the same thing.

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253 comments

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:30:28pm

Maybe Presnit Fucknut will fire everybody and just rattle around the empty White House yelling at TV’s and tweeting about how he is so awesome that he is doing all the jobs all by himself.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:31:26pm

You know, if Trump wants to know who it is that keeps the Russia investigation going, he should look in a mirror.

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:32:38pm
thin-skinned narcissistic so-called president

There must be an emolument for that.

//the joke is dead, quit beating it!

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:33:16pm

Dangit. I knew that would happen. It took me a while to compose a comment and get it up and sure enough…new thread. Here it is again. Sorry to be off topic, but I think a lot of lizards will enjoy this.

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re: #461 ObserverArt

Friday’s are good for music videos around here. I found this the other day and I was completely taken back to seeing them around the very same time on their first tour of America.

I think I mentioned before how a lot of Brit bands would start an American tour in Ohio with the three Agora Ballrooms on the schedule. It gave them three decent venues only 200 miles or so apart from each other in Cleveland, Columbus and Toledo. They could get in a groove without a lot of travel and in front of usually appreciative audiences.

When my buddies and I saw them, the crowd was small because a lot of people weren’t familiar with the band. That allowed us to plop right down in front and take in the total enchantment that was Genesis with Peter Gabriel.

You don’t have to like rock to like Genesis as they were quite classical, but if you listen closely they had some rockin’ power too.

But what really made them was the small one song plays Gabriel would perform in costumes with vocal inflections, mime and classic story telling. He was and still is one of the most unique entertainers ever.

It’s a full hour long and it captures the band and Gabriel perfectly. Watch Gabriel closely for all his little actions that made his “characters” so much fun.

Enjoy!

Genesis: Live 1973 - First time in HD with Enhanced Soundtrack

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:34:22pm

He’s used to his corporate laywers being able to bully people to make them give up or pay them to make them go away.

He doesn’t understand this is different. This isn’t some contractor or tenants suing him, this is a major national security investigation.

Apples and Oranges.

I still wouldn’t put it past him to fire Mueller.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:34:41pm
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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:35:38pm

Executive Orders are not legislation. They are generated and carried out by the Executive Branch with no action from Congress.

He’s even botched those signing ceremonies by wandering off before signing the things he is taking credit for on occasion.

He’s signed a handful of bills into law, but the majority of legislation that’s passed Congress so far has been the naming the post office kind of mundane stuff that is done on voice vote (bipartisan).

His nonsensical blather about regulations is all over the place too. He called for eliminating regulations, but that’s more of a promise to perform, not any actual measurable elimination of regs. He did eliminate water protections so coal mines can dump waste into waterways, so there’s that.

But calling on an agency like the IRS to suspend all regulations actually does more harm than good since there’s a process for promulgating regulations and this is guidance that taxpayers rely upon for preparing their taxes. There’s feedback from interested parties, and the agency is fulfilling its Congressional obligations to administer the tax law that they enacted. Regulations fill in gaps (on purpose as we repeatedly see with the IRC) where Congress left administrative features up to the relevant agencies.

Nonsense about how you want to eliminate 2 regs for every new reg doesn’t even make sense since that’s not how any of this works.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:37:52pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

What I wonder is how much of this ‘Don’t film, don’t record’ bullshit is self-preservation on Spicey’s part. Supposedly when the brifings are televised, Trump watches them and then yells at him. AND the briefings provide fodder for SNL sketches, which probably don’t help, either.

But this shit is nuts.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:41:13pm

Nah, not blatant or anything.

There had better be some meetings going on in the media boardrooms right now.

Grow a spine.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:45:28pm

re: #9 Stanley Sea

Fox News and the Federal Government are both privatized arms of the Republican Party.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:47:11pm

He didn’t think this through at all.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:49:04pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

For tr*mp’s entire adult life, being a rich asshole has been his answer to all problems. It remains to be seen if this will continue to work.

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Nyet  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:50:03pm

Weren’t executive orders a no-no under Obama?

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Nyet  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:51:22pm

There’s probably a Trump tweet about how bad they are.

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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:51:28pm
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:51:30pm

re: #9 Stanley Sea

Nah, not blatant or anything.

There had better be some meetings going on in the media boardrooms right now.

Grow a spine.

He wouldn’t mind if every news organization but Fox went away.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:51:41pm
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Nyet  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:53:44pm

OK, not quite that, but near.

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Nyet  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:54:46pm

Oh look.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:56:41pm

re: #19 Nyet

Oh look.

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That was before he pivoted.

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Nyet  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:57:43pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:57:44pm

re: #20 ObserverArt

That was before he pivoted.

Yeah he pivoted all right, 360 degrees.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:58:45pm

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah he pivoted all right, 360 degrees.

He’s just twirling toward freedom.

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Nyet  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:59:03pm

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah he pivoted all right, 360 degrees.

He became a Яepublican?

PS: you probably mean 180?

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 1:59:14pm

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah he pivoted all right, 360 degrees.

He may still be pivoting.

I’d like to see him and his whole pack of assholes pivot right on out of here.

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calochortus  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:00:13pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

He didn’t think this through at all.

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I’m sure he didn’t, but I’m not sure how this could possibly work. Comey knows what was said. Assuming his notes are correct, how could mentioning tapes possibly make him feel threatened? They would corroborate what he said, would they not?

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:00:36pm

re: #25 ObserverArt

He may still be pivoting.

I’d like to see him and his whole pack of assholes pivot right on out of here.

I’d like to see them all do sit-n-spin on rusty farm implements.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:01:52pm
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Nyet  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:02:46pm

re: #26 calochortus

He probably assumed Comey would make up some exaggerated stuff (i.e. something even worse than what turned out to be in the memo).

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Nyet  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:03:37pm

re: #29 Nyet

He probably assumed Comey would make up some exaggerated stuff (i.e. something even worse than what turned out to be in the memo).

I mean, that’s what Trump would have done in Comey’s place…

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KerFuFFler  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:03:37pm

Reposted comment since the last thread was dead…..

How many stories like this will it take for this damn country to recognize we have a very bad police problem? And this one points out what the problem is. Can it be any more clear it has to do with race and bigotry.

You might want to check out this post at Gin and Tacos.

Here’s a teaser:

Turns out, perhaps unsurprisingly, that a lot of contractors who market themselves to police departments under the guise of “training” are absolute lunatics.

The officer recently found not guilty of manslaughter in the Philando Castile shooting, for example, attended a training session for something called “Bulletproof Warrior,” an odd name for a program aimed at police officers who are neither bulletproof nor “warriors.” The gist of the program is that every suspect is waiting to kill you, it will happen in the blink of an eye, and the Bulletproof Warrior must silence that nagging voice in his head that says not to kill people. Kill or be killed, so you better hurry up and shoot the suspect before he shoots you….

…..Also take a look at this guy named Dave Grossmann (who was featured in the 2016 documentary Do Not Resist) who promises trainees that they will have the best sex of their lives on the day they finally kill someone.

Damn!

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:04:49pm

re: #29 Nyet

He probably assumed Comey would make up some exaggerated stuff (i.e. something even worse than what turned out to be in the memo).

That sounds right to me — tr*mp is such a pathological liar that he doesn’t believe in the existence of honest (or even mostly honest) people.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:05:15pm

re: #26 calochortus

I’m sure he didn’t, but I’m not sure how this could possibly work. Comey knows what was said. Assuming his notes are correct, how could mentioning tapes possibly make him feel threatened? They would corroborate what he said, would they not?

That would be true with a human being that still has all his facilities.

We have to remember Trump can’t remember what he said two minutes ago, probably was not paying attention to Comey at all but still was Trump and did a very Trump-like standard action…throw his weight around and threaten to show who was in control.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:05:57pm

re: #26 calochortus

I’m sure he didn’t, but I’m not sure how this could possibly work. Comey knows what was said. Assuming his notes are correct, how could mentioning tapes possibly make him feel threatened? They would corroborate what he said, would they not?

At first, Trump didn’t know about the notes. Afterwards, it’s just doubling down.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:06:41pm

re: #29 Nyet

He probably assumed Comey would make up some exaggerated stuff (i.e. something even worse than what turned out to be in the memo).

Someone had already leaked about the extra scoop of ice cream.

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calochortus  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:07:38pm

re: #29 Nyet

re: #33 EPR-radar

re: #34 ObserverArt

All true. And he may have intended to obstruct justice. I just don’t see how it could. It’s like the insistence that leaking is the problem as though criminal activity would go away if everyone just kept their mouth shut.

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gocart mozart  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:07:45pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:10:30pm

re: #31 KerFuFFler

Reposted comment since the last thread was dead…..

You might want to check out this post at Gin and Tacos.

Here’s a teaser:

Damn!

wow.

Here’s the link

ginandtacos.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:14:16pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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Video

Somebody posted that with ‘Maniac’ from Flashdance as the background music.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:14:37pm

re: #31 KerFuFFler

Reposted comment since the last thread was dead…..

You might want to check out this post at Gin and Tacos.

Here’s a teaser:

Damn!

I’m going to lay a little blame at liberal’s feet. I think one of the things we, as private citizens, have failed to do in large numbers is interact with institutions like the police except as adversaries. I think we need to not only promote getting younger liberals into careers such as police, but we need to be setting up training schools like these, if this training is being privatized.

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KerFuFFler  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:15:01pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

wow.

Here’s the link

ginandtacos.com

Thanks, I fixed it when I noticed that the link had not survived the trip from the last thread.

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:15:40pm

re: #40 Blind Frog Belly White

Somebody posted that with ‘Maniac’ from Flashdance as the background music.

Which was my favorite video of the day. Week even. That was great!

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:16:37pm

re: #29 Nyet

He probably assumed Comey would make up some exaggerated stuff (i.e. something even worse than what turned out to be in the memo).

My theory is that Trump is just too fucking stupid to function as President. I don’t think he thought Comey would exaggerate his testimony only because I don’t think Trump’s thought process ever got all that much further than “if I bluff about tapes that means I’ve seized the assumption of truthfulness in the public’s eye.” He’s apparently done this thing before with others, simply asserting tapes exist as a way of trying to get journalists to retract or alter inconvenient quotes. Trump was afraid of Comey saying exactly what Comey said, remember the bluff came before (and precipitated the leak of) news about Comey’s memos. Trump was just hoping it would be his word against Comey’s and that the tape bluff might cause Comey to doubt his own recollections.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:17:37pm

From serious to sublime to absurd today.
So I guess Trump really pissed of his billionaire pals and fellow golf aficionados, by way of crassly driving his golf cart across the very manicured putting green at the course. Tsk tsk.

ftw.usatoday.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:18:32pm

re: #13 Nyet

Weren’t executive orders a no-no under Obama?

IOKIYAR

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:21:09pm

re: #45 Unshaken Defiance

From serious to sublime to absurd today.
So I guess Trump really pissed of his billionaire pals and fellow golf aficionados, by way of crassly driving his golf cart across the very manicured putting green at the course. Tsk tsk.

ftw.usatoday.com

You can grab pussies. You can lie and bullshit your ass off in a campaign. You can get into funny deals with Russians. You can deny and obstruct and threaten anyone about all of that…

…but damn it, never drive your cart on the damn greens.

That will get him impeached.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:21:15pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

My theory is that Trump is just too fucking stupid to function as President.

That is certainly the position of NeverTrumper Max Boot :
foreignpolicy.com

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calochortus  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:23:37pm

re: #45 Unshaken Defiance

From serious to sublime to absurd today.
So I guess Trump really pissed of his billionaire pals and fellow golf aficionados, by way of crassly driving his golf cart across the very manicured putting green at the course. Tsk tsk.

ftw.usatoday.com

You’d think a manly man like him could park the cart and walk a few steps, what with all his spectacular health and all.

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calochortus  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:25:40pm

OT: A truck just went by with “CLUTTER We pick it up, store it, and bring it back.” Wouldn’t it be better if they didn’t bring it back?

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Jay C  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:25:50pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

A) My theory is that Trump is just too fucking stupid to function as President. I don’t think he thought Comey would exaggerate his testimony only because I don’t think Trump’s thought process ever got all that much further than “if I bluff about tapes that means I’ve seized the assumption of truthfulness in the public’s eye.” He’s apparently done this thing before with others, simply asserting tapes exist as a way of trying to get journalists to retract or alter inconvenient quotes. Trump was afraid of Comey saying exactly what Comey said, remember the bluff came before (and precipitated the leak of) news about Comey’s memos. B) Trump was just hoping it would be his word against Comey’s and that the tape bluff might cause Comey to doubt his own recollections.

Re B): I don’t suppose it has ever occurred to President Dumbass that, via his own actions, especially an endless swarm of inane (when not outright mendacious) tweets, he has made his “word” - POTUS or not - essentially a non-credible laughingstock? Except, of course, for his campaigns of mean, petty “vengeance” against anyone he thinks has wronged him: THAT crap he’ll follow through on…

Conclusion? See A)

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:26:29pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:27:02pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:27:07pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

My theory is that Trump is just too fucking stupid to function as President. I don’t think he thought Comey would exaggerate his testimony only because I don’t think Trump’s thought process ever got all that much further than “if I bluff about tapes that means I’ve seized the assumption of truthfulness in the public’s eye.” He’s apparently done this thing before with others, simply asserting tapes exist as a way of trying to get journalists to retract or alter inconvenient quotes. Trump was afraid of Comey saying exactly what Comey said, remember the bluff came before (and precipitated the leak of) news about Comey’s memos. Trump was just hoping it would be his word against Comey’s and that the tape bluff might cause Comey to doubt his own recollections.

My theory is that he defaults to bully/abuse tactics. This whole “tapes” things reeks of asserting power by claiming to be the objective party but with no actual evidence, just appeal to authority. Gaslighting the target by telling everyone around that they’re a liar.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:27:42pm

re: #46 Hecuba’s daughter

IOKIYAR

I think IOKIYAR has been exacerbated by Trump. Yesterday, Cornyn said of the whole secret writing of the Senate bill, to be voted on a week after the reveal, “I can’t imagine a more transparent process.”

This is PLAINLY a bald faced lie, the kind that a couple years ago, he might have been too cautious to try. But Trump proved that Republicans literally DO NOT CARE about honesty, or truth, or reality. And as a result, you see Republicans saying their process was no more secretive than the ACA process, because at the time the ACA was being developed, they CLAIMED it was all a secret process they had no input on.

This is dangerous, because people who have no scruples or shame (I’m looking at YOU, Mitch McConnell) are finding that there’s no price to be paid for any transgression. They can literally do whatever they want and get away with it. And for a party that has lacked real principles for a long time, this is a very dangerous development. They basically become the kid in the candy store.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:29:48pm

re: #55 Blind Frog Belly White

Castle Silling, not the candy store.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:30:55pm

re: #54 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

My theory is that he defaults to bully/abuse tactics. This whole “tapes” things reeks of asserting power by claiming to be the objective party but with no actually evidence, just appeal to authority. Gaslighting the target by telling everyone around that they’re a liar.

You can’t go wrong presuming Trump is trying to bully someone. It’s his pattern - flatter them when he wants something, bully when he either has, or hasn’t gotten it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:31:25pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:33:48pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:33:57pm

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

You can’t go wrong presuming Trump is trying to bully someone. It’s his pattern - flatter them when he wants something, bully when he either has, or hasn’t gotten it.

Door number three is “be fawning suck-ass to people who exercise the kind of blunt, unchecked personal power that he craves.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:35:00pm

re: #60 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Door number three is “be fawning suck-ass to people who exercise the kind of blunt, unchecked personal power that he craves.”

I know, and isn’t that just creepy as fuck?

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:36:21pm

re: #61 Blind Frog Belly White

I know, and isn’t that just creepy as fuck?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:36:36pm

The thing is, YOU see healthcare. THEY see war. And it IS war - war against the working poor, the old, and the sick on behalf of the richest people in the history of the world.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:39:43pm

re: #59 goddamnedfrank

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President polling in the mid-30s has the whip hand over the entire Republican party, because his supporters are stupid and very, very determined.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:42:05pm

re: #64 Blind Frog Belly White

President polling in the mid-30s has the whip hand over the entire Republican party, because his supporters are stupid and very, very determined.

And because his thralls are utterly gutless.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:42:57pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:43:01pm

re: #55 Blind Frog Belly White

I think IOKIYAR has been exacerbated by Trump. Yesterday, Cornyn said of the whole secret writing of the Senate bill, to be voted on a week after the reveal, “I can’t imagine a more transparent process.”

This is PLAINLY a bald faced lie, the kind that a couple years ago, he might have been too cautious to try. But Trump proved that Republicans literally DO NOT CARE about honesty, or truth, or reality. And as a result, you see Republicans saying their process was no more secretive than the ACA process, because at the time the ACA was being developed, they CLAIMED it was all a secret process they had no input on.

This is dangerous, because people who have no scruples or shame (I’m looking at YOU, Mitch McConnell) are finding that there’s no price to be paid for any transgression. They can literally do whatever they want and get away with it. And for a party that has lacked real principles for a long time, this is a very dangerous development. They basically become the kid in the candy store.

The GOP has been experimenting with greater and greater levels of cynicism for awhile: what can they get away with, how much justification and misdirection are required?

At the same time, there’s been a cultural drive to eliminate skepticism and present partisan politics as an existential, even spiritual conflict, in which right and wrong is about affiliation. The base has become more and more tolerant, since the only value system they really have is “on side, it’s probably okay” versus “not like us, always guilty.”

At this point, procedural kabuki isn’t necessary. You can lie or not answer, and expect that while you might not be believed by everyone, there’s a considerable number of people that will believe you’re still better than the liberals.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:44:09pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:44:35pm

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

[raw detached privilege]

Phrase of the day. It’s what’s going around.

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danarchy  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:44:55pm

So according to this NPR story Trump has signed 40 actual pieces of legislation, none of them very consequential. They are all listed at the bottom of the article.

npr.org

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:45:25pm

re: #70 danarchy

#somuchwinning

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Timothy Watson  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:47:48pm

re: #70 danarchy

So according to this NPR story Trump has signed 40 actual pieces of legislation, none of them very consequential. They are all listed at the bottom of the article.

npr.org

RENAMING POST OFFICES ARE SUPER IMPORTANT LIBTARD!1!!

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:48:18pm

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

Plutocrats care about golf course greens. The poor can go off and die somewhere, preferably after having been impoverished by a juicy medical bankruptcy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:50:41pm

re: #68 FormerDirtDart

Topher Spiro ✔ @TopherSpiro
NEW: From us and Harvard researchers: the Senate bill could result in 18,000 to 28,000 deaths in 2026. americanprogress.org
2:12 PM - 22 Jun 2017

I believe that the actual number of early deaths among the 23 million who will be deprived of coverage will be much higher — but probably not in that specific year. For example, those who develop cancer will not receive treatment. I would not be surprised if 5% of those 23 million will perish prematurely.

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gocart mozart  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:50:50pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:52:56pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:53:04pm

re: #75 gocart mozart

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In a way, it’s more like Russia is the arsonist, and the GOP are people who live in the house and think the fire will only burn the half we live in.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:53:51pm

re: #75 gocart mozart

Russia is 5% of this story. The 95% part of this story is that the GOP has propagandized itself into a cold civil war vs. all non-Republicans that creates the perfect opportunity for a country like Russia to weaken the US.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:53:58pm

re: #75 gocart mozart

Evan McMullin ✔ @Evan_McMullin
If Moscow’s goal is to keep us divided and therefore unable to protect ourselves, shouldn’t our goal be to unify in our own defense?

Could Evan’s statement be an implicit dig against the Republicans? Or is he actually so naive to think that the Congressional Republicans care about Russian influence?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:55:29pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:55:47pm

re: #79 Hecuba’s daughter

Could Evan’s statement be an implicit dig against the Republicans? Or is he actually so naive to think that the Congressional Republicans care about Russian influence?

I’m pretty certain it’s a dig at the Republicans, not just in Congress but as a whole.

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gocart mozart  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:56:41pm
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covfefe  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:56:58pm

re: #75 gocart mozart

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:58:13pm

re: #73 EPR-radar

Plutocrats care about golf course greens. The poor can go off and die somewhere, preferably after having been impoverished by a juicy medical bankruptcy.

It’s not just plutocrats.

Lots of people have empathy deficits because of a combination of lack of imagination and a base assumption that their problems and their feelings are paramount, no matter how trivial, and that their “normal” is deserved, not the product of circumstance and luck. In turn, there are various social forces that reinforce and even reward this belief.

Wealth leads to an especially gross version, though, since you’re isolated from people that are different, and generally around folks (employees, staff) that can’t differ.

But I see this behavior in people that have been raised up to wealth, because it’s really about that base assumption that I matter, you don’t which already exists, but cash means that you get to enforce it.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 2:59:25pm

re: #79 Hecuba’s daughter

Could Evan’s statement be an implicit dig against the Republicans? Or is he actually so naive to think that the Congressional Republicans care about Russian influence?

There is no unity to be had between civilized people and Republicans. The Republican vision for the US is a new aristocracy of a few hundred billionaires having absolute power over everyone else, with most of the non-aristocrats in abject poverty and the rest of the non-aristocrats thoroughly cowed by fear of joining the poor in their misery.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:00:34pm

re: #83 covfefe

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Russia provided JUST enough of a fig leaf that the GOP could pretend they weren’t complicit with a hostile foreign power. And to paraphrase Sinclair Lewis, it’s hard to get people to believe something if winning the White House depends on not believing it.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:03:00pm

re: #83 covfefe

Mr McMullin needs to pay attention to how often members of his party and their media allies talk about how large chunks of the US population aren’t really American, and thus don’t matter.

…because that explains the larger picture of why they’re not looking hard at this Russia thing. Whether or not they actively collaborated, they absolutely 100% feel more connected to a foreign tyrant social conservative than to a moderate US Democrat.

The operating premise of the modern GOP is not “conservatism,” but simply that most people don’t matter and do not deserve franchise.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:03:49pm

re: #85 EPR-radar

There is no unity to be had between civilized people and Republicans. The Republican vision for the US is a new aristocracy of a few hundred billionaires having absolute power over everyone else, with most of the non-aristocrats in abject poverty and the rest of the non-aristocrats thoroughly cowed by fear of joining the poor in their misery.

That’s the dream of the GOP leadership. The rank-and-vile’s vision is of an America where everyone knows to kowtow to the white, Christian, straight men.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:05:19pm

re: #67 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

The GOP has been experimenting with greater and greater levels of cynicism for awhile: what can they get away with, how much justification and misdirection are required?

At the same time, there’s been a cultural drive to eliminate skepticism and present partisan politics as an existential, even spiritual conflict, in which right and wrong is about affiliation. The base has become more and more tolerant, since the only value system they really have is “on side, it’s probably okay” versus “not like us, always guilty.”

At this point, procedural kabuki isn’t necessary. You can lie or not answer, and expect that while you might not be believed by everyone, there’s a considerable number of people that will believe you’re still better than the liberals.

For example, if AHCA passes and the resulting body count starts to get in the news, it’s easy to predict that Republicans will say the death toll is because they didn’t have the votes to completely repeal the ACA, therefore it’s the fault of Obama and the Democrats.

Way too many in the mainstream media will go along with this GOP bullshit when it comes.

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gocart mozart  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:05:34pm
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piratedan  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:07:31pm

re: #83 covfefe

I sympathize with Mr. McMullin, but he would be perhaps better served, gathering like minded GOP and then feel free to help them make a stand. I’m sure the Dems will be willing to help, if there’s a small kernel of sanity to be found and nurtured but so far, we ain’t seeing it.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:08:50pm

Not sure if already posted, but here is an update on Michael Brown and Ferguson Missouri and the familys’ wrongful death suit. The article also goes into other wrongful death suits and why cities do the settlements, etc.

L A Times - Ferguson attorney: Michael Brown’s family settles with city for $1.5 million

he $1.5 million awarded this week to the parents of Michael Brown is the latest of several large settlements involving black suspects who were killed by police, but it’s far from the largest.

A federal judge in St. Louis on Tuesday approved the settlement in a wrongful death lawsuit filed by Michael Brown Sr. and Lezley McSpadden. Their 18-year-old son was unarmed on Aug. 9, 2014, when he was fatally shot by white officer Darren Wilson during a street confrontation in Ferguson, Mo.

The shooting launched months of protests and led to a U.S. Department of Justice investigation that found racial bias in Ferguson’s police and court system. But a St. Louis County grand jury and the Justice Department declined to prosecute Wilson, who resigned in November 2014.

Brown’s parents sued the city, former Police Chief Tom Jackson and Wilson in 2015, citing a police culture hostile to black residents and claiming Wilson used excessive force. Ferguson, Jackson and Wilson denied the allegations.

The case is among many in which huge settlements have been reached out of court, including many in which officers, like Wilson, were cleared of criminal wrongdoing.

U.S. District Judge E. Richard Webber did not release the amount of the settlement, citing unspecified safety concerns. But Ferguson City Attorney Apollo Carey said in an email Friday in response to an open records request from the Associated Press that the city’s insurance company paid out $1.5 million.

While settlements are expensive, cities facing lawsuits in wrongful death cases are aware of the danger of going to trial, said James Cohen, a professor at Fordham University School of Law. He said the settlement amount could be dwarfed by an award granted by a jury sympathetic to the family.

“The city is afraid that someone on that jury is a member of Black Lives Matter, even if the juror is Caucasian,” Cohen said.

Settlements in some other recent high-profile cases have been much higher than the amount awarded to Brown’s parents.

In 2015, the city of North Charleston, S.C., paid $6.5 million to the family of Walter Scott, an unarmed black man who was killed by a white police officer while running from a traffic stop. The officer, Michael T. Slager, pleaded guilty in May to a civil rights violation.

A month earlier, Baltimore paid $6.4 million to the family of Freddie Gray, who suffered a fatal spinal injury in police custody. No officers were convicted.

New York City reached a $5.9-million settlement in July 2015 with the family of Eric Garner, an unarmed black man who died after being put in a chokehold by a white police officer. The officer was cleared by a grand jury.

Cleveland agreed to pay $6 million last year to the family of Tamir Rice. The 12-year-old had an airsoft gun that shoots nonlethal plastic pellets when a white officer shot him in 2014. A grand jury did not charge the officer.

Also last year, Pleasantville, N.Y., paid $6 million to the family of Danroy Henry Jr., a 20-year-old black college student shot to death by a white officer in 2010. No charges were filed against the officer.

Some award amounts this year have been lower. Madison, Wis., agreed to pay $3.35 million to relatives of 19-year-old Tony Robinson Jr., who was unarmed when he was fatally shot. Milwaukee reached a $2.3-million tentative settlement with the family of Dontre Hamilton, a man with schizophrenia who was shot by police. Arlington, Texas, reached an $850,000 settlement with the family of 19-year-old Christian Taylor, who was shot by an officer while allegedly vandalizing cars at a dealership. Police were not charged in any of those cases.

…a bit more in article

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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:09:31pm

The official Tennessee GOP account is run by insane raving wingnuts.

But why should they be any different from the rest of this sick party?

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:10:50pm

Since the fall of the USSR, the US plutocracy has decided to let all of that old Soviet propaganda about capitalism become true.

An old KGB hand like Putin must be absolutely overjoyed by the chance to use the resulting domestic tensions in the US to weaken the US with this tr*mp/GOP ratfucking operation, perhaps fatally.

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garzooma  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:12:01pm

re: #75 gocart mozart

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@Evan_McMullin How do the firemen unify with the arsonists?

Well put, but I might have gone with “thieves”, since we’re talking about stealing people’s private data.

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piratedan  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:14:09pm

re: #94 EPR-radar

well, obviously he’s playing for keeps, I wonder if the American public is even aware of that. At the rate we’re going, I’m expecting elections to be suspended for 2018. With the Democratic Party being declared illegal not soon after.

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:14:49pm

re: #94 EPR-radar

Since the fall of the USSR, the US plutocracy has decided to let all of that old Soviet propaganda about capitalism become true.

An old KGB hand like Putin must be absolutely overjoyed by the chance to use the resulting domestic tensions in the US to weaken the US with this tr*mp/GOP ratfucking operation, perhaps fatally.

Plus, it’s an international alliance of white supremacists.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:15:05pm

re: #49 calochortus

You’d think a manly man like him could park the cart and walk a few steps, what with all his spectacular health and all.

If you listen to him in the video he sounds like he’s out of breath. Low stamina and no energy, SAD!

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gocart mozart  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:15:21pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:23:16pm

Today’s bit of unintentional comedy from RedState is a keeper:

There never has been and never will be any “right-wing extremism”. Conservatives, by their very nature, do not ever engage in extremism. Any extremist words and actions are always done by left-wing extremists either holding a left-wing banner or disguising themselves as RINOs.

All words and actions from the right are always about peace, understanding and just good Christian values. If you want to tackle extremism, look to the left!

Res ipsa loquitur.

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dharmamark  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:28:38pm

re: #99 gocart mozart

Our local cartoonist! He’s been spot on.

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gocart mozart  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:29:49pm
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covfefe  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:32:36pm

I sure hope Brian J. Is watching the evening news about all the damage done by Cindy.

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gocart mozart  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:33:04pm

Anothe podcast reccomendation

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:36:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:36:27pm
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BeachDem  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:37:33pm

re: #54 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

My theory is that he defaults to bully/abuse tactics. This whole “tapes” things reeks of asserting power by claiming to be the objective party but with no actual evidence, just appeal to authority. Gaslighting the target by telling everyone around that they’re a liar.

Welp, his net worth fluctuates depending on how he “feels” at any given time, so that’s par for the course (and to reach par, he’s probably driving his cart on the greens and cheating.)

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gocart mozart  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:37:48pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:41:51pm

re: #49 calochortus

You’d think a manly man like him could park the cart and walk a few steps, what with all his spectacular health and all.

Remember the G7 summit: he took a golf cart while the other leaders walked. The rule is always: whatever Trump ascribes to the opposition is a flaw of his. His people attacked Hillary for being in ill-health, when it’s Trump’s health that is at risk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:42:32pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:49:06pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

A pittance.

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gocart mozart  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:58:34pm
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allegro  Jun 23, 2017 • 3:59:38pm

re: #113 gocart mozart

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They will once they’re done with him. See Bush, George W.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:05:05pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:06:34pm

I made chocolate chip cookies.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:07:59pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:09:05pm

re: #116 The Vicious Babushka

I made chocolate chip cookies.

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Now I have to get the slobber off my screen.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:10:30pm

re: #117 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This is what I meant about experimenting with cynicism.

Deny…but also push the idea that if it happened, it’s okay (because they deserved it).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:11:31pm

re: #117 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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The Costanza defense.

YouTube

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Amory Blaine  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:12:19pm

re: #118 wrenchwench

amazon.com

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:13:22pm

Includes photo with Rick Perry in safety goggles AND glasses, so he looks extra smart.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:13:38pm

I hope Backwoods Sleuth is okay.

I just heard weather warnings for tornado warnings in southern Ohio and then checked some weather maps to see what’s up.

Half of Ohio is heavy to severe storms. From the Ohio River up to about Columbus.

And Sleuth is in some pretty rocky storms too. I hope she is weathering this one.

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:14:16pm

re: #121 Amory Blaine

amazon.com

I read that as ‘screen nom’ at first.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:14:20pm

re: #117 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And my second reaction…

HOLY FUCKING, FLAMING SHIT!!!!! YOU’RE ASKING IF IT’S A CRIME FOR A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TO COLLUDE WITH A HOSTILE FOREIGN POWER TO ILLEGALLY STEAL EMAIL AND PUBLISH IT TO SWING THE ELECTION IN HIS FAVOR?!?!?!?!?!?!

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!?!

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:18:03pm

re: #125 Blind Frog Belly White

And my second reaction…

HOLY FUCKING, FLAMING SHIT!!!!! YOU’RE ASKING IF IT’S A CRIME FOR A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TO COLLUDE WITH A HOSTILE FOREIGN POWER TO ILLEGALLY STEAL EMAIL AND PUBLISH IT TO SWING THE ELECTION IN HIS FAVOR?!?!?!?!?!?!

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!?!

He is just asking questions doing journalism.

Hold his beer.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:18:16pm

Being only 25 I do not know much about this Robert Mueller guy.

what is his history and who put him in goverment to start
who made him FBI chief and what kind of law firm has he worked for
the right wing nuts claim he is only putting Democrat lawyers in jobs is that true

I between jobs and may have to run

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Targetpractice  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:19:11pm

So for the weeks, the cry from wingnuts have been “THERE’S NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION!!!”

But now that the winds are shifting, they’re seriously asking “But if there was, would that really be a bad thing?”

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allegro  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:19:50pm

re: #127 BigBadDemocrat

Being only 25 I do not know much about this Robert Mueller guy.

what is his history and who put him in goverment to start
who made him FBI chief and what kind of law firm has he worked for
the right wing nuts claim he is only putting Democrat lawyers in jobs is that true

I between jobs and may have to run

Google is your friend.

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:20:38pm

re: #127 BigBadDemocrat

I between jobs and may have to run

Just do it.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:20:41pm

re: #127 BigBadDemocrat

Being only 25 I do not know much about this Robert Mueller guy.

what is his history and who put him in goverment to start
who made him FBI chief and what kind of law firm has he worked for
the right wing nuts claim he is only putting Democrat lawyers in jobs is that true

I between jobs and may have to run

Wiki - Robert Mueller

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BigBadDemocrat  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:20:55pm

re: #129 allegro

no time
two jobs
just got a call to go in early

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:20:56pm

re: #116 The Vicious Babushka

I made chocolate chip cookies.

I am very tempted to down-ding that.
It has caused me to crave chocolate chip cookies. I have no chocolate chip cookies. I currently have no transportation with which to go in search of chocolate chip cookies…

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allegro  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:22:02pm

re: #132 BigBadDemocrat

no time
two jobs
just got a call to go in early

Liar.

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Interesting Times  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:24:01pm

re: #134 allegro

Liar.

Indeed. He supposedly works two jobs he supposedly hates, yet spends all his free time trolling LGF with inane, passive-aggressive dumbfuckery instead of, yanno, looking for a better job?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:24:50pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart

I am very tempted to down-ding that.
It has caused me to crave chocolate chip cookies. I have no chocolate chip cookies. I currently have no transportation with which to go in search of chocolate chip cookies…

YouTube

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allegro  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:25:10pm

re: #135 Interesting Times

Indeed. He supposedly works two jobs he supposedly hates, yet spends all his free time trolling LGF with inane, passive-aggressive dumbfuckery instead of, yanno, looking for a better job?

And had plenty of time to come here and wait for information he supposedly wanted but no time to look it up.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:25:57pm

re: #135 Interesting Times

Indeed. He supposedly works two jobs he supposedly hates, yet spends all his free time trolling LGF with inane, passive-aggressive dumbfuckery instead of, yanno, looking for a better job?

But he can’t get a better job despite his degree in Underwater Basket Weaving because of illegal immigrants.

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Jack Burton  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:27:45pm

re: #59 goddamnedfrank

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:27:51pm

re: #123 ObserverArt

I hope Backwoods Sleuth is okay.

I just heard weather warnings for tornado warnings in southern Ohio and then checked some weather maps to see what’s up.

Half of Ohio is heavy to severe storms. From the Ohio River up to about Columbus.

And Sleuth is in some pretty rocky storms too. I hope she is weathering this one.

power was off for a while. Pouring down rain here…almost 2 inches in half an hour. Up to 2.31 inches right now and still pouring down.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:28:22pm

re: #115 FormerDirtDart

So the White House is all in on making tr*mp’s stupid tweets official government statements.

This works for me.

Good luck getting that Muslim ban through the Supreme Court, mr. tr*mp, when your own tweets are such massive evidence of bias that even the RW stooges on the court are likely to vote against you.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:29:01pm

Why ask question? //

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:29:53pm

re: #141 EPR-radar

So the White House is all in on making tr*mp’s stupid tweets official government statements.

This works for me.

Good luck getting that Muslim ban through the Supreme Court, mr. tr*mp, when your own tweets are such massive evidence of bias that even the RW stooges on the court are likely to vote against you.

It would be glorious if Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and his own pick Gorsuch voted against him. He’s an idiot.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:30:30pm

re: #142 HappyWarrior

Why ask question? //

A recent graduate who is unable to do his own research. I think we know why he can’t get a good job.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:30:32pm

re: #138 Blind Frog Belly White

But he can’t get a better job despite his degree in Underwater Basket Weaving because of illegal immigrants.

Somewhere he picked up the ‘just asking questions’ mode of internet trolling.

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gocart mozart  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:30:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:31:36pm

re: #144 Blind Frog Belly White

A recent graduate who is unable to do his own research. I think we know why he can’t get a good job.

Seriously if I were curious about Mueller, I’d have googled him the first day Rothenstein announced him. For what it’s worth, I really think highly of Mueller. He’s someone that really represents the best of the career public servant.

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gocart mozart  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:31:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:31:49pm

I did not know that Mueller was the new FBI chief until the troll said so.
Pretty sure the troll is stupid enough to believe that.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:31:58pm

re: #136 Blind Frog Belly White

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:32:47pm

re: #148 gocart mozart

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Take that Willie Mays!

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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:33:36pm

What is Mueller? Why come Mueller do thing? I went poopy in me whitey tighties.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:33:49pm

re: #150 FormerDirtDart

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YouTube

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:33:50pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

It would be glorious if Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and his own pick Gorsuch voted against him. He’s an idiot.

Roberts is the likeliest defector from RWNJ party line on this issue. Roberts wants to pretend the Republican SCOTUS majority still has legitimacy, so there are limits on how foolish he will want to look.

I have no idea on Gorsuch. Alito and Thomas seem likely to vote for the ban. I’m not sure there has ever been a case where they voted against abuse of government power vs. people.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:33:58pm

re: #152 teleskiguy

What is Mueller? Why come Mueller do thing? I went poopy in me whitey tighties.

Why you make me laugh? :)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:35:19pm

re: #154 EPR-radar

Roberts is the likeliest defector from RWNJ party line on this issue. Roberts wants to pretend the Republican SCOTUS majority still has legitimacy, so there are limits on how foolish he will want to look.

I have no idea on Gorsuch. Alito and Thomas seem likely to vote for the ban. I’m not sure there has ever been a case where they voted against abuse of government power vs. people.

Agree with your assessment. I’d love for Gorsuch to vote against Trump on this not merely because it’s the right thing to do but because Trump is just stupid enough to view it as a personal betrayal.

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gocart mozart  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:35:25pm

Oh well.

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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:36:00pm

Methinks this BigBadDemocrat fuckstick is a useless troll.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:36:39pm

re: #157 gocart mozart

Oh well.

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That’s how I nearly got my first home run too except I was smart and stayed at third and took a Little League triple.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:37:10pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

power was off for a while. Pouring down rain here…almost 2 inches in half an hour. Up to 2.31 inches right now and still pouring down.

I thought the maps looked bad for your area. So far Columbus has been spared overall. It’s been raining but just steady rain, no big downpours.

Hang in there.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:38:19pm

re: #158 teleskiguy

RWNJ trolls always think their stupid user names are ever so clever. Give me a break.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:38:30pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

That’s how I nearly got my first home run too except I was smart and stayed at third and took a Little League triple.

YouTube

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:39:12pm

re: #161 EPR-radar

RWNJ trolls always think their stupid user names are ever so clever. Give me a break.

“I know! I’ll call myself a Democrat! That’ll fool ‘em!”

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calochortus  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:39:53pm

re: #136 Blind Frog Belly White

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Video

It reminds me that I should make some chocolate chip cookies this evening.
Now that this heat wave is winding down, I can just open up all the windows and let the cooling breezes blow through the kitchen.

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BigPapa  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:40:33pm

OK I’m working with a client on an upgrade for a vacation home in Hawaii. We’re talking $24k of work in a $2.5m home. Has an issue with a cloud router license that’s $115 every 3 years. The license includes 24/7 tech support and warranty.

That’s $38 a year. Come on broham.

I told him I’m in the ‘you pay me to worry about it business’ and that’s in my toolbag. He’s still naw.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:40:44pm

re: #162 Blind Frog Belly White

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Video

Yep, after all Clint’s my choice to play my Grandpa should they ever make a movie about Grandpa.

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Targetpractice  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:42:59pm

Oh, how clever trolls are. Never have any before considered coming in and trying to convince us that they’re just another Democrat.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:42:59pm

Also note the difference between his 15 year old photo & the real thing.

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gocart mozart  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:43:02pm

Al “The Mad Hungarian” Hrabosky
en.wikipedia.org

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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:44:00pm

re: #165 BigPapa

I deal with folks like that all the time in the ski shop. “What do you mean it’s $75 a day to rent Kästle skis?” Dude, you’re paying with a metal AmEx card and your wife is wearing an $8,000 jacket.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:44:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:44:26pm

re: #168 Stanley Sea

Also note the difference between his 15 year old photo & the real thing.

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I’m sure VB has a great photo of the minor miners.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:44:58pm

re: #117 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Gee, is it illegal to waterboard Hannity until he confesses to being a stooge and a hypocrite and gives up the name of his FSB contact?
Yes, as a matter of fact it is, though Hannity himself has never objected to the practice and actually volunteered for it once (though obviously with no intention of going through with it).

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:45:09pm

re: #127 BigBadDemocrat

Being only 25 I do not know much about this Robert Mueller guy.

what is his history and who put him in goverment to start
who made him FBI chief and what kind of law firm has he worked for
the right wing nuts claim he is only putting Democrat lawyers in jobs is that true

I between jobs and may have to run

Would you please fuck yourself on the way out? kthxbai

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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:45:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:45:39pm

re: #160 ObserverArt

I thought the maps looked bad for your area. So far Columbus has been spared overall. It’s been raining but just steady rain, no big downpours.

Hang in there.

It was a nice steady gentle rain and then the damned skies opened. Gauge now says 2.67.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:45:44pm

re: #169 gocart mozart

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Al “The Mad Hungarian” Hrabosky
en.wikipedia.org

An awesome nickname. Relievers are so cool. Always with the best facial hair and attitude. I admit I’m biased since I was one in LL.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:47:06pm

re: #173 Shiplord Kirel

Gee, is it illegal to waterboard Hannity until he confesses to being a stooge and a hypocrite and gives up the name of his FSB contact?
Yes, as a matter of fact it is, though Hannity himself has never objected to the practice and actually volunteered for it once (though obviously with no intention of going through with it).

Okay, Lumpy, ask yourself this, I know it’s hard for you to but ask yourself your honest to God reaction that if the Clinton campaign had colluded with the Russians to release goods on the RNC. Yeah, that’s what I thought. You’re nothing but a pathetic partisan hack with no principles and redeeming values at all.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:47:30pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:47:30pm

OMG technically it IS a strikeout.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:47:39pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

An awesome nickname. Relievers are so cool. Always with the best facial hair and attitude. I admit I’m biased since I was one in LL.

Did you have both the facial hair and attitude in little league?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:47:43pm

re: #135 Interesting Times

Indeed. He supposedly works two jobs he supposedly hates, yet spends all his free time trolling LGF with inane, passive-aggressive dumbfuckery instead of, yanno, looking for a better job?

It sucks taking the bus back and forth between shifts at Walmart and McD. He’s waiting for the callback to the coal mine.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:47:52pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

I’m sure VB has a great photo of the minor miners.

You mean, like this?

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:47:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:48:01pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

When Sarah Palin lost, they were fine with her speaking out. They were fine with Romney speaking out too. Not bringing up McCain since he was and still is a sitting Senator.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:49:11pm

re: #181 EPR-radar

Did you have both the facial hair and attitude in little league?

Just the attitude, the facial hair came later. I liked giving the umps the stink eye though. There was one ump. But then he had to drive me home after the game.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:49:23pm

re: #183 Blind Frog Belly White

You mean, like this?

[Embedded content]

Yessum.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:50:55pm

Funny Baseball Baserunning Blooper
Leave it to our pal, Jon Miller to make a great call on a terrible play.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:51:37pm

re: #184 Barefoot Grin

[Embedded content]

I’m just a Koch Brother on Capitol Hill, looking for some Congressman to shill for deregulation.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:52:38pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Yessum.

That’s “Yassuh!”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:53:22pm

I really hate this idea that Clinton can’t speak out since she lost. It’s pathetic patronizing crap. But the thing that pisses me off the most is that a lot of the people saying it are lefties. People who did not say this to Al Gore.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:53:29pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:54:05pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

I’m sure VB has a great photo of the minor miners.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:54:30pm

re: #192 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Theme song to the Trump Whitehouse.

Curb Your Enthusiasm Theme

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:55:14pm

re: #193 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Yep. I think my own Grandpa worked in the mines briefly as a teenager. He hated it. Became a brickmason instead. Lived a much longer life as a result.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:55:23pm

re: #127 BigBadDemocrat

Being only 25 I do not know much about this Robert Mueller guy.

what is his history and who put him in goverment to start
who made him FBI chief and what kind of law firm has he worked for
the right wing nuts claim he is only putting Democrat lawyers in jobs is that true

I between jobs and may have to run

I googled it for you.
The answer is Potato!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:55:23pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

I really hate this idea that Clinton can’t speak out since she lost. It’s pathetic patronizing crap. But the thing that pisses me off the most is that a lot of the people saying it are lefties. People who did not say this to Al Gore.

Because, you know, when John McCain lost, he retired to an almost monastic life of solitude and reflection, refusing all interviews and not giving his opinion, even when asked.
///////

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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:55:25pm

re: #127 BigBadDemocrat

Being only 25 I do not know much about this Robert Mueller guy.

what is his history and who put him in goverment to start
who made him FBI chief and what kind of law firm has he worked for
the right wing nuts claim he is only putting Democrat lawyers in jobs is that true

I between jobs and may have to run

Maybe you could actually, I don’t know, LOOK UP THIS INFORMATION FOR YOURSELF.

Or maybe you prefer just being a troll and a dick.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:55:38pm

And if it wasn’t for evil socialism like the GI Bill, he never would have been able to go to trade school.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:56:10pm

re: #197 Blind Frog Belly White

Because, you know, when John McCain lost, he retired to an almost monastic life of solitude and reflection, refusing all interviews and not giving his opinion, even when asked.
///////

They’re calling him the Dalai Maverick no or McCainus of Assisi.

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b.d.  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:56:59pm

LOL at the Beltway saying that this was a good week for Trump.

Any other POTUS in the history of the US, it would have been one of their worst.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:57:26pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Okay, Lumpy, ask yourself this, I know it’s hard for you to but ask yourself your honest to God reaction that if the Clinton campaign had colluded with the Russians to release goods on the RNC. Yeah, that’s what I thought. You’re nothing but a pathetic partisan hack with no principles and redeeming values at all.

Yes indeed. In a parallel universe, tr*mp won the popular vote and lost the electoral college to Hillary Clinton in an election marked by persistent vulgarity from Clinton (e.g., the famous ‘grab them by the balls’ remark), divisiveness and scapegoating (e.g., her proposal to lynch one billionaire each year on the white house lawn and take their property to promote social unity), and credible accusations of collusion with Russia in tampering with the election.

In this parallel universe, the RWNJ howls of outrage at all this were so extreme that they became something more than mere sound and sent the earth spiraling out of its orbit to crash into the sun, thereby ending US politics in that dimension.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:57:43pm

re: #201 b.d.

LOL at the Beltway saying that this was a good week for Trump.

Any other POTUS in the history of the US, it would have been one of their worst.

Admitting that he tried to intimidate Comey. Yeah great week. He didn’t shit himself on camera, I guess that’s progress.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:58:40pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

They’re calling him the Dalai Maverick no or McCainus of Assisi.

John MCain is a hero! He ain’t no Assisi!
/////////////////////////////////

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A Cranky One  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:58:50pm

re: #4 ObserverArt

I saw Genesis with Peter Gabriel and it was one of the best concerts I’ve ever attended. At the time, some folks dismissed them as theatrical, ignoring the obvious musical talent on display. Been a Gabriel fan ever since.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:58:53pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

One more -1 on #127 and it disappears.

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b.d.  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:58:57pm

re: #203 HappyWarrior

Admitting that he tried to intimidate Comey. Yeah great week. He didn’t shit himself on camera, I guess that’s progress.

Possibly no new impeachable offenses this week………PROGRESS!!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:59:12pm
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TedStriker  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:59:25pm

re: #129 allegro

Google is your friend.

Save your breath…BBD has shown themselves to be a shitposter lately.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:59:29pm

re: #202 EPR-radar

Yes indeed. In a parallel universe, tr*mp won the popular vote and lost the electoral college to Hillary Clinton in an election marked by persistent vulgarity from Clinton (e.g., the famous ‘grab them by the balls’ remark), divisiveness and scapegoating (e.g., her proposal to lynch one billionaire each year on the white house lawn and take their property to promote social unity), and credible accusations of collusion with Russia in tampering with the election.

In this parallel universe, the RWNJ howls of outrage at all this were so extreme that they became something more than mere sound and sent the earth spiraling out of its orbit to crash into the sun, thereby ending US politics in that dimension.

Let’s say someone with Trump’s level of elected experience and know how is the Democratic nominee. We saw how they reacted when Obama who had been in the Senate a few years and his state senate before that was treated. COMMUNITY ORGANIZER. Yeah and then you guys nominated Romney, who has spent more time running for President than actually being in office and then Trump who has a third grader’s understanding of Civics and I apologize to any third graders who might eb ofefnded by that.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2017 • 4:59:43pm

re: #192 jaunte

[Embedded content]

The deadline approached & the yam was in his bathroom.

So they had to use the tweet.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:00:14pm

re: #206 EPR-radar

One more -1 on #127 and it disappears.

Damn it, I wanted to put an exclamation mark on it. Two people got to it before I did.

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b.d.  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:00:44pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

I like the sketch artist ploy, good for CNN

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:01:03pm

re: #201 b.d.

LOL at the Beltway saying that this was a good week for Trump.

Any other POTUS in the history of the US, it would have been one of their worst.

It’s a good week for tr*mp. In other words, he didn’t start a nuclear war, and he is still alive. Always remember, this guy is graded on the rich asshole curve.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:01:31pm

re: #214 EPR-radar

It’s a good week for tr*mp. In other words, he didn’t start a nuclear war, and he is still alive. Always remember, this guy is graded on the rich asshole curve.

That’s the straight rich white guy curve.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:02:12pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

I like that business about the resemblance to a criminal trial. I hope that one takes off on social media and goes viral.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:02:46pm
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jaunte  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:03:41pm

No wonder they don’t want cameras.

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:05:10pm

re: #108 gocart mozart

Literally exactly what I said yesterday. Even had McConnell joined in, the same would have happened except Trump would have thrown in Establishment Republicans.

Literally, not to overuse the word, a no-win situation.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:06:11pm

re: #217 jaunte

The Republicans are just making it official that the US is a plutocracy. Anything that actually benefits the people is almost impossible to get through Congress (e.g., the ACA, civil rights acts etc.). Anything that benefits the plutocracy goes through Congress like grease through a goose (e.g., copyright extensions).

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:07:22pm

re: #117 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Seems a sign that FOX knows Trump is fucked.

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BlueGrl21  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:09:12pm

Our family is in Seattle on our way to Alaska. We were at the Museum of Flight when SpaceX launched. They had it up on a huge screen and an educator from SpaceX walked us through it all. We were in the Space Pavillion, right next to the full-size training module for the Space Shuttle.

That was genuinely one of the coolest experiences of my life. Watching that rocket go up, in the middle of all of that history, then stick the Stage 1 landing on the drone. The cheering and high fives and my unladylike, “Holy shit, they landed it!”

So, for all of you fellow space nuts, it was awesome to watch the launch there with so many other space geeks…and cheer like football fans because a 14-story rocket stuck its landing.

Next launch is Sunday.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:10:58pm

re: #219 MsJ

Literally exactly what I said yesterday. Even had McConnell joined in, the same would have happened except Trump would have thrown in Establishment Republicans.

Literally, not to overuse the word, a no-win situation.

That lets the Congressional Republicans off too easy, IMO. Sure tr*mp would have just added them to his enemies list, but a unified Congress has real power vs. an unacceptable president (e.g., inauguration, impeachment and conviction all in one day).

Congressional Republicans chose to be complicit in tr*mp’s treachery to get their goddamn tax cuts etc. Those GOP leaders that were warned about Russia and stuck with Hannity-level GOP hackitude anyway are traitors.

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:13:05pm

re: #129 allegro

Google is your friend.

You might need to spell that for him. 😂

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:21:19pm

With respect to the OP, McGahn’s main mistake thus far is not breaking both of tr*mp’s thumbs and flushing his phone down the toilet.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:23:32pm

I’m glad the administration is admitting that Trump’s tweets are official statements.

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:25:37pm

re: #223 EPR-radar

That lets the Congressional Republicans off too easy, IMO. Sure tr*mp would have just added them to his enemies list, but a unified Congress has real power vs. an unacceptable president (e.g., inauguration, impeachment and conviction all in one day).

Congressional Republicans chose to be complicit in tr*mp’s treachery to get their goddamn tax cuts etc. Those GOP leaders that were warned about Russia and stuck with Hannity-level GOP hackitude anyway are traitors.

Only if they could have stopped Trump from running. They still don’t have hard proof as of today, unless it’s from the current investigation. Once Trump was there no one had the power but us, the voters. We failed spectacularly.

I’m not letting anyone off. The GOP fucked up totally by letting him run. And the continue to fuck up by covering for him. For this one matter, I’m just calling it as I see it.

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:26:50pm

re: #226 Amory Blaine

I’m glad the administration is admitting that Trump’s tweets are official statements.

Let us see if the COVFEFE Act passes. Right now, those tweets are not being archived and the fucking president is blocking people.

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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:28:07pm

Brutal day in Austin.

Date Time Wind Vis Sky Temp Dew Point Humidity Heat Index Pressure
23 16:51 NA 10.00 CLR 103 69 34% 111 29.78

At least Phoenix has no humidity to speak of…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:34:53pm

re: #217 jaunte

[Embedded content]

A “Senate Obamacare bill”, TPM?
REALLY????

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:36:11pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:36:36pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:38:36pm

re: #123 ObserverArt

I hope Backwoods Sleuth is okay.

I just heard weather warnings for tornado warnings in southern Ohio and then checked some weather maps to see what’s up.

Half of Ohio is heavy to severe storms. From the Ohio River up to about Columbus.

And Sleuth is in some pretty rocky storms too. I hope she is weathering this one.

nhc.noaa.gov

Tropical Depression Cindy is intensifying but losing its tropical characteristics. It is expected to be declared post-tropical tonight or tomorrow as it approaches the Mid-Atlantic states.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:38:45pm

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is a little too close for comfort.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:39:39pm

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

That video includes the appropriate number of holy shitness. Impressive!

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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:42:31pm

re: #234 PhillyPretzel

That is a little too close for comfort.

“Bring me my brown pants!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:44:04pm

William Bradford, Donald Trump’s Energy department appointee, has a whole list of vile and hateful Tweets he is furiously deleting (and they are being preserved elsewhere).

huffingtonpost.com

Amongst other things he has attacked high-profile people, defended Japanese-American incarceration, and called on bombing Muslim holy sites.

Bradford acknowledged the deleted tweets and apologized for his “disrespectful” comments in an email to the [Washington] Post on Thursday.

“As a minority and member of the Jewish faith, I sincerely apologize for my disrespectful and offensive comments,” wrote Bradford, a member of the Chiricahua Apache Nation.

“These comments are inexcusable and I do not stand by them. Now, as a public servant, I hold myself to a higher standard, and I will work every day to better the lives of all Americans.”

I believe him. /s

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:46:02pm

Confused that person with another (deleted)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:47:26pm

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹

I proudly gave him the first downding to his one spam article last night (and I almost never use the downding button).

I’m conservative with downdings too but man that dude is a fucking troll.

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BeachDem  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:49:18pm

Lovely:

In the latest blow to the integrity of the science used by government agencies, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) dismissed nearly all of the members of its Board of Scientific Counselors (BOSC) this week. The board, which reviews and advises EPA’s internal research departments on their scientific methodology, was already understaffed…

An EPA spokesperson told The New York Times that they hoped to replace BOSC members with more scientists from regulated industries, which many interpreted as an effort to politicize the scientific research that informs regulations.

Yeah, that’ll work—they’ve always been so honest and above board, those industry “scientists”

rawstory.com

Sigh. Guess I’ll go watch the rest of House of Cards season 5. Sad when Frank and Claire look honest and full of integrity compared to the real assholes in the White House.

Later…

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:49:24pm

re: #236 austin_blue

“Bring me my brown pants!”

For the RPG players out there: Rare item drop — ‘soiled pants’.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:49:34pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

I’m conservative with downdings too but man that dude is a fucking troll.

I confused that guy with another, so I deleted that comment.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:51:31pm

re: #242 Anymouse 🌹

I confused that guy with another, so I deleted that comment.

Ah.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:53:06pm

Rain total is up to 3.20 inches and it’s not over yet.

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lawhawk  Jun 23, 2017 • 5:53:56pm

Trump’s up late:

The guy doesn’t realize that his tweets can and will be used in a court of law, at impeachment, and shows his utter contempt for the rule of law. Indeed, his actions show he has no interest in national security. He simply doesn’t care that Russia looks to have interfered in the US elections and was intent on manipulating the outcome.

Meanwhile, the argument is that Obama was trying to preserve democracy by not taking sides. An argument can be made he should have been more forceful in his concerns about Russian interference, but the case was still in the early stages of being made.

There was little that he could have done.

Put bluntly, the political system is not built to deal with that kind of subterfuge, especially when one of the political parties - the GOP - has no interest in self-reflection and upholding their oaths of office. They’re more interested in accumulating power and benefits to their entitled class of rich people than protecting the nation against threats foreign and domestic. They waved off concerns and warnings, claiming that they were likely to help Democrats in the end, rather than seeing it as preserving and protecting the nation from a foreign power interfering in the democratic process here.

Fuck McConnell and the reset of the GOP that enabled this nonsense. They are complicit in all this through their continued obstruction.

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EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:00:00pm

re: #245 lawhawk

The US founders viewed political parties as being dangerous to the public interest. The GOP now seems intent on proving this view correct.

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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:12:31pm
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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:18:38pm

re: #247 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

“Hey! I let you touch it!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:20:23pm

The parade committee just came by my house, saying my services in leading the parade with the US Flag will not be required tomorrow after all; an American Legion unit from another town will be doing it.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2017 • 6:23:50pm

re: #245 lawhawk

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retired cynic  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:23:59pm

re: #157 gocart mozart

Oh well.

[Embedded content]

Peter Bourjos FTW! (I liked him when he played for the Cardinals.)

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retired cynic  Jun 23, 2017 • 7:30:10pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

An awesome nickname. Relievers are so cool. Always with the best facial hair and attitude. I admit I’m biased since I was one in LL.

He’s still a neat announcer for Cards baseball.

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John Hughes  Jun 25, 2017 • 12:20:46am

re: #7 lawhawk

Nonsense about how you want to eliminate 2 regs for every new reg doesn’t even make sense since that’s not how any of this works.

The tories tried this in the UK for a while. One consequence was to delay new fire safety regulation for high-rise residential buildings.


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