A Beautiful Live Performance at Union Chapel by Snarky Puppy’s Bill Laurance: “Red Sand”

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The second song and video from Bill Laurance’s upcoming CD/DVD “Union Chapel”.

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Bill Laurance: Piano, Roli Seaboard and Fender Rhodes
Michael League: Moog Little Phatty and Electric Bass
Robert “Sput” Searight: Drums
Felix Higginbottom: Percussion
Vera Van Der Bie: Violin
Isabella Petersen: Viola
Annie Tangberg: Cello
Katie Christie: French Horn
Arranged by Bill Laurance
Produced by Bill Laurance
Engineered by Simon Hendry
Mixed by Nic Hard at Lime Beat Studio, NY

billlaurance.com
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238 comments

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teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2017 • 9:24:25pm

This tweet o’ mine did not get the love I thought it was going to get.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 24, 2017 • 9:33:25pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2017 • 9:36:49pm

re: #2 Ace-o-aces

John Oates and I are kindred spirits, I don’t care how cheesy his music is.

Ski Channel: You are a telemark skier. Obviously, a little more challenging - how did you become one?

John Oates: In the 80’s I had a bunch of friends who were doing it and they kept pushing me. Finally I tried it and I liked it. I would go back and forth between alpine and telemark until the winter of ‘93. That winter, I just decided to go for it and only telemarked for the whole season. That is what got me over the hump and I have been doing it fulltime ever since.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 24, 2017 • 9:39:02pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2017 • 9:56:00pm

Dude.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2017 • 10:08:25pm

From the last thread, on a Nebraska resident being turned away from Senator Deb Fischer’s event in Lincoln:

re: #185 Citizen K

After all, it’s a Republican district. If you’re there and look like you might disagree with her, you obviously aren’t REALLY a constituent. WInner-take-all and all that. That’s how it works, right?….right?

While Senator Deb Fischer hasn’t said that, my representative Adrian Smith explicitly said he only represents Republicans.

I was chatting up one of the other village board members tonight at the fire hall bar-b-que, and she’s moving with my own position of gently pointing out to people in town on the tyre fire that the GOP controlled Congress has become. (She is the independent liberal on the board … she noted tonight she was one of the eight Hillary Clinton voters. She says she doesn’t much like Mrs. Clinton as a person, but that wasn’t the issue in the election; competence was.)

It would appear that slowly it is dawning on the town’s voters here that they might have made a mistake in voting overwhelmingly for Trump, even as they installed a majority-liberal board locally.

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makeitstop  Jun 24, 2017 • 10:14:54pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

John Oates and I are kindred spirits, I don’t care how cheesy his music is.

Both John and Darryl are nice guys. I came up in the Philly coffee house circuit at the same time they did and played a lot of shows with them when they still called themselves ‘Whole Oats.’ They got famous, I didn’t. That’s show biz.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2017 • 10:22:00pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

John Oates and I are kindred spirits, I don’t care how cheesy his music is.

Not quite as cheesy as Garfunkel and Oates …

Pregnant Women are Smug by Garfunkel and Oates: The Official Video

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 24, 2017 • 10:48:34pm

3 weeks old but still funny, and relevant.

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prairiefire  Jun 24, 2017 • 10:52:16pm

re: #7 makeitstop

Both John and Darryl are nice guys. I came up in the Philly coffee house circuit at the same time they did and played a lot of shows with them when they still called themselves ‘Whole Oats.’ They got famous, I didn’t. That’s show biz.

Doesn’t Darryl have that cool tv series were he eats with and jams with different musicians?

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prairiefire  Jun 24, 2017 • 11:03:23pm

re: #10 prairiefire

Doesn’t Darryl have that cool tv series were he eats with and jams with different musicians?

Yeah, a monthly podcast “Live From Darryls House”. It’s fun and he really knows his wine.

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TedStriker  Jun 24, 2017 • 11:04:24pm

re: #11 prairiefire

Yeah, a monthly podcast “Live From Darryls house.com”. It’s fun and he really knows his wine.

livefromdarylshouse.com

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teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2017 • 11:11:14pm

FZ, man. Pay attention at 1:12.

VAULT CLIP: Robertson Report

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2017 • 11:17:10pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2017 • 11:26:37pm

Stephen Colbert was in Russia to appear on a television show.

He announced he is running for president, and figured he would just cut out the middle men and appeal directly to Russia, which got a bunch of laughs from the audience there.

huffingtonpost.com (with video)

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teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2017 • 11:34:35pm

Click this, the password is hopelessness.

In this interview, LA’s KHJ-TV sat down with Frank [Zappa] in the UMRK to get his views on President Reagan’s war on drugs… and while he’s looking good in a tie, he is not mincing his words.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2017 • 11:35:55pm

From the last thread:
re: #314 Romantic Heretic

I’ve heard it said that Western civilization started with the reneging of debt.

Nations that go bankrupt free up the wealth that went to paying interest to go into other areas. It doesn’t get rid of the bad economics that caused them to go bankrupt but it allows them a fresh start.

The United States once paid its debt off in full, under President Andrew Jackson. (Jan 8, 1835)

It lasted one year. The USA collapsed into a deep depression and a major bank and stock market panic.

npr.org

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2017 • 11:38:32pm

I responded to the wrong comment up there. It should have been this comment:
re: #253 Birth Control Works

All nations go into and stay in debt.

In all my reading, I’ve yet to find a country that wasn’t in debt. Spain went bankrupt something like 6 times in the 1700’s (iirc).

Without debt there is no growth.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2017 • 11:45:06pm

Another far left revolutionary living in la la land.

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Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2017 • 11:53:51pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Another far left revolutionary living in la la land.

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So according to this fruitloop, the DNC wants to save the ACA in order to prevent the passage of single-payer, which Trump totally wants even though his budget assumes the “savings” from the AHCA become reality.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 24, 2017 • 11:55:14pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2017 • 11:56:48pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

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Isn’t that the sort of shit we constantly berate Republicans for, passing various spending bills and then using the need for funding as an excuse to gut social programs?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2017 • 11:57:46pm

Sometimes you really have to wonder about people.

Many many people, companies, organisations, and governmental entities have warned about the dangers of leaving your children in a hot car.

A Texas woman was arrested for deliberately putting her children in a hot car as a punishment - two years old and sixteen months old. Now they are dead, and she is under arrest.

rawstory.com

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 25, 2017 • 12:01:25am

Oops.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 25, 2017 • 12:11:24am
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freetoken  Jun 25, 2017 • 12:24:55am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 25, 2017 • 12:32:35am

rawstory.com

Court Rules that Four Million People Can Sue Mike Huckabee Over Robocalls Promoting a Christian Film

More at Raw Story:

Approximately 4 million people who received robocalls from former Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR) promoting the Christian holiday film “Last Ounce of Courage” are eligible to join a class action suit, the Daily Beast reported Saturday night.

Residents from Nebraska to Oklahoma received a mailer this week that reads, “If you received one or more telephone calls that used the recorded voice of Mike Huckabee to deliver a message as part of a campaign for the movie Last Ounce of Courage, you may be a class member in a class action lawsuit.”

The suit was originally filed by Dorit and Ron Golan in 2014 alleging that 4 million automated calls using Huckabee’s voice were made to promote “Last Ounce of Courage” — which was released straight to DVD and has a zero percent rating at Rotten Tomatoes, the online movie review site.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 25, 2017 • 12:37:31am

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹

Sometimes you really have to wonder about people.

Many many people, companies, organisations, and governmental entities have warned about the dangers of leaving your children in a hot car.

A Texas woman was arrested for deliberately putting her children in a hot car as a punishment - two years old and sixteen months old. Now they are dead, and she is under arrest.

rawstory.com

This is near my home. The woman’s story, that the children had locked themselves in the car, looked suspect from the beginning. Texas has had more than 140 children die from being left in hot cars since 1990. It was something we were always on the lookout for when I was a deputy in the California desert all those years ago. Children are the most frequent victims but not the only ones. I knocked the side window out of a pickup to reach a 90 year old man whose idiot son had left him in the vehicle while he played pool with friends. He was already dead. The son went to prison. The rule is if you see someone of any age unconscious in a locked car and you can’t rouse them by shouting or tapping, call 911 immediately. If you see children in a locked car in even mildly warm weather call 911 even if they are awake. If they are not awake, break the window yourself. A jack handle is the preferred implement. It’s best to try the rear window or at least the one farthest from the children.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 25, 2017 • 12:38:28am
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Cheechako  Jun 25, 2017 • 12:41:27am

The new AF-1

Air Force One

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 25, 2017 • 12:41:41am

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel

I have not run into such a situation (a person in an excessively hot car).

If I did, I’d worry about the law on damaging property after dealing with the person in the car first.

Car windows can be replaced; lives not so much.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 25, 2017 • 12:45:55am

re: #30 Cheechako

Is that a golf course on top? /s

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2017 • 12:53:08am

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

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I wonder if he was planning on building something there at one time, and then forgot about it. He only paid $1 for it, which is kind of weird, so I wonder what the woman who owned got in return (if anything)?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 25, 2017 • 12:55:22am

thedailybeast.com

We’re still hearing from regretful Trump voters. (Noted in the bolded part I copied below.) Still not hearing from Clinton voters. I have to admit, I hadn’t heard from the pro-Trump porn star vote yet.

These folks voted for Trump even after he came out against their very industry and livelihoods. At the top of the porn industry, we’re not talking about the “economically anxious.”

Pro-Trump Porn Stars Are Scared Silent: “The Industry Is Biased and No One Will Admit It”

Being a Trump supporter in the adult industry is dangerous. A mere mention of He Who Must Not Be Named, even to a group of conservative porn stars, will make the entire room go silent. Those who once joyously elected the reality TV star to office now cower in fear, refusing to discuss politics for the sake of their careers. Earlier this year, adult stars candidly chatted about endorsing Trump during Las Vegas’ Adult Entertainment Expo, one of porn’s largest gatherings of the year. But now, a mere six months later, being an outspoken conservative porn star is unheard of. Given the scarcity of work these days, being on the political fringes of a liberal-minded industry just isn’t worth it.

No one really expected Trump to become a hardcore enemy of the porn industry. Even after he signed the anti-porn pledge last year he still maintained support from a small group within the industry. He did it to get the right-wing vote, they rationalized; he’s a disruptor not a politician and that’s just his strategy to get elected, they’d say. But that all changed when, like James Deen, our current president was accused of breaking porn’s golden rule: the rule of consent.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 25, 2017 • 1:02:47am

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹

I have not run into such a situation (a person in an excessively hot car).

If I did, I’d worry about the law on damaging property after dealing with the person in the car first.

Car windows can be replaced; lives not so much.

The law will back you up if you break a window to save someone from heatstroke. A civilian did that very thing to get a baby out of a car at the main post office in Lubbock a few years ago. The mom came out just as the police got there. She demanded that they arrest the Samaritan for breaking her window. The cops arrested her instead. With adults it’s usually better to wait for help, since they might be drunk or drugged and adults can survive longer even after loss of consciousness. With kids though, break that sucker and get them out as soon as you can.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 25, 2017 • 1:05:53am

re: #33 Dr Lizardo

I wonder if he was planning on building something there at one time, and then forgot about it. He only paid $1 for it, which is kind of weird, so I wonder what the woman who owned got in return (if anything)?

Probably one of his kids nobody’s heard of, like one of those Rumplestiltskin deals.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 25, 2017 • 1:07:28am

re: #35 Shiplord Kirel

The law will back you up if you break a window to save someone from heatstroke. A civilian did that very thing to get a baby out of a car at the main post office in Lubbock a few years ago. The mom came out just as the police got there. She demanded that they arrest the Samaritan for breaking her window. The cops arrested her instead. With adults it’s usually better to wait for help, since they might be drunk or drugged and adults can survive longer even after loss of consciousness. With kids though, break that sucker and get them out as soon as you can.

Even if the law didn’t back me up, I would rather go to jail than ignore a person in immediate danger if I can do something to alleviate it.

We don’t have the benefit of cell phones here, so calling the cops might not be a choice (that and only one sheriff’s car and one deputy in the county).

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2017 • 1:14:32am

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹

Given the scarcity of work these days,

In the porn industry? Is there some kind of sector-wide recession going on?

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Kragar  Jun 25, 2017 • 1:14:32am

Current Project

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 25, 2017 • 1:31:38am

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

In the porn industry? Is there some kind of sector-wide recession going on?

Actually, yes.

The problem for the traditional porn industry is the same as the problem with other traditional media outlets: The rise of inexpensive digital cameras coupled with the Internet. As such, virtually anyone can become a so-called amateur and hit the Internet.

Such competition from a plethora of sources is putting pressure on traditional producers. Moreover, the standards that are applied across the industry are not necessarily applied to individuals with a camera and Internet, so the latter can produce things that the porn industry would not make.

On top of that, there is the issue of so-called piracy (theft). You can go to any number of Websites such as Pornhub or xHamster and find clips of films under copyright. Bit Torrent and mass-storage sites don’t carry just big Hollywood or Disney productions: Porn is a big draw as well.

Porn is also limited in where it can be displayed in the first place, also cutting into profitability.

When the MPAA came out with its new NC-17 rating (because its rating system wasn’t under copyright, the porn industry lifted X from them) for adult-theme films, moral scolds and social conservatives immediately conflated NC-17 with X, claiming they were both porn (they are not the same, and originally X didn’t mean that).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2017 • 3:25:23am

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

Not quite as cheesy as Garfunkel and Oates …

I wondered how long it would take for G&O to show up in the thread…

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Nyet  Jun 25, 2017 • 3:33:54am

I decided to do some “classics”.

Cole is that guy who used to do the “look at me, I’m a Jewish denier” shtick.

He then got rechristened as David Stein, a Republican “mover and shaker”, a friend of many GOP celebrities… until his past came out. Now he writes for takimag.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2017 • 3:43:44am

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

Stephen Colbert was in Russia to appear on a television show.

He announced he is running for president, and figured he would just cut out the middle men and appeal directly to Russia, which got a bunch of laughs from the audience there.

huffingtonpost.com (with video)

While Trump’s attitude is “We didn’t do anything wrong but Obama did nothing to stop it”, the Russian attitude seems to be “We didn’t do anything but we are proud of what happened”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2017 • 3:57:32am

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

In the porn industry? Is there some kind of sector-wide recession going on?

I guess since the advent of free Internet porn, it is hard to make money at it. The only people actually making a profit are the ones who do high-end, female-oriented porn (like Erika Lust) for people who are discriminating enough to actually pay for quality.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2017 • 3:58:59am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I guess since the advent of free internet porn, it is hard to make money at it. The only people actually making a profit are the ones who do high-end, female-oriented porn (like Erika Lust) for people who are discriminating enough to actually pay for quality.

I suppose that’s true; porn is pretty much free nowadays and I’d imagine the vast majority of consumers are simply unwilling to pay for it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2017 • 4:00:45am

re: #45 Dr Lizardo

I suppose that’s true; porn is pretty much free nowadays and I’d imagine the vast majority of consumers are simply unwilling to pay for it.

Those willing to pay are ones who expect a certain level of quality and are are wary of viruses, which seem to accompany porn sites as a form of cyber-STD.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2017 • 4:04:29am

Just saw this on the BBC, strangely not in Fox or newsmax:

Six hurt as car strikes crowd in Newcastle Eid celebration

wonder how that fellow got radicalized

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2017 • 4:06:30am

re: #46 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Those willing to pay are ones who expect a certain level of quality and are are wary of viruses, which seem to accompany porn sites as a form of cyber-STD.

I’d never heard of Erika Lust…..according to her Wiki bio, she

has a master’s degree in political science and audiovisual management with a specialization in feminism and sexual studies from University of Lund.[10]

Woah.

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dharmamark  Jun 25, 2017 • 4:07:25am

re: #16 teleskiguy

That was great. Thanks for posting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2017 • 4:08:54am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

I’d never heard of Erika Lust…..according to her Wiki bio, she

Woah.

Yes, and she understood that there was a market for women-oriented, high-end erotic pornography. She seems to be doing well at it. My girlfriend (who is a fan) visited her offices in Barcelona.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2017 • 4:22:15am

Guess I’ll go putter around the ‘hood. Nice day out today.

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Nyet  Jun 25, 2017 • 4:48:14am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just saw this on the BBC, strangely not in Fox or newsmax:

Six hurt as car strikes crowd in Newcastle Eid celebration

wonder how that fellow got radicalized

What fellow? You mean the Muslim woman who lost control of her car?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 25, 2017 • 5:07:14am

re: #52 Nyet

What fellow? You mean the Muslim woman who lost control of her car?

One eyewitness said: “From what I understand, [a woman who had been at prayer] was about to leave in her car and I believe she lost control.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 25, 2017 • 5:09:58am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

I’d never heard of Erika Lust…..according to her Wiki bio, she

Woah.

See also Asia Carrera:
en.wikipedia.org

Carrera won a National Merit Scholarship for scoring over 1440 on the SAT, as well as a Garden State Scholarship for her grades. She attended Rutgers University on full academic scholarship, where she majored in Japanese and business, but did not graduate. Carrera is a member of Mensa, with an IQ of 156.

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covfefe  Jun 25, 2017 • 5:13:03am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹

She’s also a member of The Church If The Flying Spaghetti Monster. No kidding.

usatoday.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 25, 2017 • 5:14:04am

re: #55 covfefe

She’s also a member of The Church If The Flying Spaghetti Monster. No kidding.

usatoday.com

Hey, she belongs to the same cool groups I do! /s

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jeffreyw  Jun 25, 2017 • 5:44:34am

Imgur
Good morning!

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makeitstop  Jun 25, 2017 • 5:46:32am

Eric Garland raises some valid questions about Bernie and Russia…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:12:42am

LOLWHUT
HE CRAY

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makeitstop  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:17:41am

re: #59 The Vicious Babushka

Is she allowed to so collude?

Who uses phrasing like that?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:18:11am

re: #52 Nyet

What fellow? You mean the Muslim woman who lost control of her car?

aha…initial reports said it was linked to terrorism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:19:19am

re: #59 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary Clinton colluded with the Democratic Party in order to beat Crazy Bernie Sanders. Is she allowed to so collude? Unfair to Bernie!

so, in Trump’s mind, the Democratic Party = Government of the Russian Federation?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:19:28am

re: #58 makeitstop

Eric Garland raises some valid questions about Bernie and Russia…

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I’ve honestly wondered the same thing. We know the Russians use far left and far right to weaken threats to them. I doubt Putin feared a Sanders presidency.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:20:17am

re: #59 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWHUT
HE CRAY

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Jesus, he’s unhinged.

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lawhawk  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:22:24am

re: #59 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:23:13am
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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:24:22am

re: #59 The Vicious Babushka

Waking up with “collusion” on his mind.

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ericblair  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:25:34am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

so, in Trump’s mind, the Democratic Party = Government of the Russian Federation?

That’s all I can get out of it, to. It helps us that the shithead has absolutely no understanding of ethics, loyalty, honor, patriotism, or anything else of the sort, because it makes it that much harder for him to construct a lie that isn’t completely self-incriminating. He’s a moral idiot leading a dwindling mob of other moral idiots.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:25:51am
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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:28:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:32:56am

re: #70 jaunte

Kellyanne on Senate GOP health bill: “These are not cuts to Medicaid”

And there are more people in the photo on the left! Remember, only the heart sees what is really true…

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Nyet  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:36:43am

re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

aha…initial reports said it was linked to terrorism.

But the very link which you have posted - and presumably read before posting - said otherwise.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:42:04am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

I’d never heard of Erika Lust…..according to her Wiki bio, she

Woah.

Is Erika related to Lillian Lust, The Babe With The Bust?

Youtube Video

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:44:43am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:48:32am

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

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I have a hard time accepting complaints of intolerance from a party especially an administration who has Mike Pence as a member.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:48:45am

re: #72 Nyet

But the very link which you have posted - and presumably read before posting - said otherwise.

you are right, I must read more carefully and not repost anything before morning coffee..

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:49:41am

That’s what FNC is there for though I guess, to reassure all the overly sensitive right wing nuts that they’re the real victims of persecution but also the real majority too.

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makeitstop  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:49:44am

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

Do you agree with @LaraLeaTrump?

Any time I see anything from a person with the name Trump, I just assume they’re lying to me.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:50:27am

re: #78 makeitstop

Any time I see anything from a person with the name Trump, I just assume they’re lying to me.

Safe bet.

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:51:16am

re: #78 makeitstop

She and the rest of her family only have a national platform because of Russian interference in our election.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:51:19am

re: #77 HappyWarrior

That’s what FNC is there for though I guess, to reassure all the overly sensitive right wing nuts that they’re the real victims of persecution but also the real majority too.

But they will not remain the majority if these foreigners keep coming over and breeding like vermin, that is another point…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:52:38am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But they will not remain the majority if these foreigners keep coming over and breeding like vermin, that is another point…

Yes.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:54:11am

re: #80 jaunte

She and the rest of her family only have a national platform because of Russian interference in our election.

Yep. Sigh. I always thought the Trumps were pathetic attention junkies. Never thought a party even one like the GOP would actually nominate Donald. They’re at the point of no return now.

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:56:45am
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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:57:38am

Even the Secret Service is getting sarcastic about all the golf.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:57:53am

re: #84 jaunte

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Golfing again.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:58:02am

re: #84 jaunte

Working on keeping the country running like a top

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 6:58:52am

re: #87 wheat-dogg

Working on keeping the country running like a top

I think he really thinks the presidency is something you can take an actual break from.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:00:22am

To the uncouth one running the country is a minor thing; Golf is the major thing.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:01:01am
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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:04:57am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:05:54am

re: #90 FormerDirtDart

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Being a less condescending prick is an even better gift for your wife.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:10:12am

re: #90 FormerDirtDart

Staying Fit For Your Husband Is One Of The Best Gifts You Can Give Him

All they had to do was to phrase it “Keeping fit for your partner is one of the best gifts you can give them” and it would have been perfectly positive and innocuous.

But that seems to be beyond them.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:12:08am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

All they had to do was to phrase it “Keeping fit for your partner is one of the best gifts you can give them” and it would have been perfectly positive and innocuous.

But that seems to be beyond them.

Guys can be as fat as we want but don’t gain any pounds ladies, I’ve got a wife to show off!

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Renaissance_Man  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:12:29am

re: #80 jaunte

She and the rest of her family only have a national platform because of Russian interference in our election.

No, let’s be honest about this. They have a platform because the US media gives them one.

The US media as a whole is heavily pro-Trump. They may publish negative articles about him, but he is the single biggest boost to their bottom line in decades, and the media narrative is heavily geared towards normalising all things Trump as a normal point of view, another area that Americans can conflict over.

Russia or not, the American media nurtured all of this. They followed the FOX model to feed people a steady diet of reality TV conflict masquerading as news, and when the first reality TV candidate came forth, they rode it for all it was worth. And they still are.

All of the major news outlets have a vested interest in keeping Trump at the forefront of the national consciousness. This is the new American normal. Even in 8 years, when he leaves office, it will continue to be the new normal.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:21:36am

Awesome vid e o. Thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:23:07am

So though, I’ve decided I’m finally going to learn how to cook. I’ve been wanting to change my diet anyhow to involve less meat.

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fern01  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:27:17am

re: #59 The Vicious Babushka

Crazy Bernie Sanders

Has there ever been another politician who speaks of his opponents in this fashion. Children are rebuked when they speak of others in this way. He really is a toddler stuck in a long term tantrum. That people voted for him & 80% of the GOP think he is doing a great job is beyond sanity and well into the world of alternative everything.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:27:32am

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Here is a link to Cook’s Illustrated: cooksillustrated.com

I believe they have a vegetarian cookbook.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:28:34am

re: #99 PhillyPretzel

Here is a link to Cook’s Illustrated: cooksillustrated.com

I believe they have a vegetarian cookbook.

Thanks!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:29:15am

re: #98 fern01

Has there ever been another politician who speaks of his opponents in this fashion. Children are rebuked when they speak of others in this fashion. He really is a toddler stuck in a long term tantrum. That people voted for him & 80% of the GOP think he is doing a great job is beyond sanity and well into the world of alternative everything.

The most pathetic thing is he does the name calling and then he and his dipshit cult complain about how he’s perceived. Maybe you know, not act like a seventh grader when you’re running a country.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:30:50am

I mean can you imagine if Obama used deriding nicknames for people like Boehner, McConnell, and others? The GOP would have a shit fit but Trump? Oh it’s perfectly okay for him refer to the Minority Leader as “Crying Chuck Schumer” etc. Bush had silly nicknames too but to the man’s credit, I don’t think they were meant to dismiss people’s credibility and they weren’t all insulting either.

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:39:52am

Billionaire throws barb at Biden, and Biden responds by saying, “Who is this asshole?”

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:40:08am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Trying to imagine Obama calling one of his inner circle “turdblossom.”

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:40:32am
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fern01  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:40:34am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

I mean can you imagine if Obama used deriding nicknames for people like Boehner, McConnell, and others? The GOP would have a shit fit but Trump? Oh it’s perfectly okay for him refer to the Minority Leader as “Crying Chuck Schumer” etc. Bush had silly nicknames too but to the man’s credit, I don’t think they were meant to dismiss people’s credibility and they weren’t all insulting either.

President Obama was held to a higher standard than any other President that came before him - or the one miserable specimen that came after him. Thus said, no other President has openly made speeches where name calling was used incessently - and received great cheers from the audience. I just do not understand this world of incessant hate and abuse coming from the “leader of the people”.

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:41:57am

re: #104 jaunte

Trying to imagine Obama calling one of his inner circle “turdblossom.”

In hindsight it was actually a pretty endearing nickname.

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:42:53am

re: #107 darthstar

Like saying, “That guy can roll around in shit and come out smelling like a flower.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:49:29am

re: #104 jaunte

Trying to imagine Obama calling one of his inner circle “turdblossom.”

No, I can’t either.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:52:04am

re: #90 FormerDirtDart

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Never mind Jack, it’s Inez Felscher.

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:53:46am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:57:43am

re: #111 jaunte

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Make me own that, Dems.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2017 • 7:58:28am

Charles, problem with one of your advertisers, loads down the CPU and browser rendering the latter almost inoperable.
Also constantly crashes flash.
Linux Debian 8 / Firefox.

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:03:40am
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Teukka  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:06:46am

re: #113 Teukka

Charles, problem with one of your advertisers, loads down the CPU and browser rendering the latter almost inoperable.
Also constantly crashes flash.
Linux Debian 8 / Firefox.

Checking in the Dev Console, it chats a lot with various servers, again and again and again, in a way which makes me feel uneasy.

It also throws
XML Parsing Error: syntax error
Location: tpc.googlesyndication.com
Line Number 1, Column 1: 1 container.html:1:1

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:06:55am

re: #114 darthstar

Guy in the cap mentioned above.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:07:37am

re: #103 darthstar

Billionaire throws barb at Biden, and Biden responds by saying, “Who is this asshole?”

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Why am I not the least bit surprised?

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:12:46am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:15:52am

re: #118 darthstar

And the uncouth one wants to open them again. ::: eye roll :::

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:32:00am

re: #119 PhillyPretzel

And the uncouth one wants to open them again. ::: eye roll :::

Coal is dead.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:34:38am

re: #120 darthstar

Coal is dead.

Big beautiful clean coal is here to stay!

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:34:58am

re: #120 darthstar

Coal is dead.

#FakeNews! 111thy!!1111!

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:35:45am

re: #121 Timothy Watson

Tom Price: Three meals of clean coal a day is a perfectly balanced diet.

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BigPapa  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:36:38am

Don’t they filter water through coal, which is all natural, GMO and gluten free? It should be sprinkled on avocado toast.

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:39:02am

re: #124 BigPapa

Don’t they filter water through coal, which is all natural, GMO and gluten free? It should be sprinkled on avocado toast.

Don’t fuck with avocado toast.

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:41:13am

Premature baby with a heart problem? Just like reckless driving.

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) suggested on Sunday that people with pre-existing conditions deserved to pay more for insurance because they were like cars that had been involved in an automobile accident.
……..
“We’ve done something with our health care system that you would never think about doing, for example, with auto insurance, where you would require auto insurance companies to sell a policy to somebody after they crash their car.”
rawstory.com

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:42:23am

re: #65 lawhawk

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This is all coordinated with whatever Fox News is doing. Yesterday and this morning, overtime I passed by FN they were on one of three issues: Dem “escalation of inflammatory rhetoric,” Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton, and HRC and her many-splendored “scandals.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:45:02am

re: #126 jaunte

Premature baby with a heart problem? Just like reckless driving.

Heartless pigs.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:45:43am

re: #127 Barefoot Grin

This is all coordinated with whatever Fox News is doing. Yesterday and this morning, overtime I passed by FN they were on one of three issues: Dem “escalation of inflammatory rhetoric,” Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton, and HRC and her many-splendored “scandals.”

But collision isn’t a crime, just ask Lumpy, esq.

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:47:17am

re: #126 jaunte

Premature baby with a heart problem? Just like reckless driving.

Never heard of an insurance company dropping your ass if your car’s manufacturer announces a recall for faulty parts.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:49:21am

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

People are routinely naive like that…

Bear Patrol False Cause

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:50:18am

The preexisting conditions and the GOP’s lack of empathy for any American with one is exactly why I went off on our 20 questions guest yesterday. I have a heart condition, one I got diagnosed with as a teenager. I take pretty good care of myself and in fact most people think I look younger than I am.

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:51:57am

I had a feeling this is what went down…

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:52:27am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

It does not matter. The GOP is going to try to reverse every single good thing that Obama accomplished. That is their idea of “Make America Great again.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:54:46am

re: #133 darthstar

The idea of helping negotiate a treaty perforce requires that you don’t take sides. There is no way that this moronic administration won’t pick a side and thereby piss the other one off.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:54:58am

re: #134 PhillyPretzel

It does not matter. The GOP is going to try to reverse every single good thing that Obama accomplished. That is their idea of “Make America Great again.”

Exactly.

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:55:40am

re: #133 darthstar

I had a feeling this is what went down…

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So the amateur “diplomat” decided the best way to begin peace negotiations is basically just to be the advocate of one side. Gee, wonder why nobody ever thought of that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:57:01am

I have the feeling Kushner was smug as shit too when he was detailing those demands.

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:57:15am

thread:

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:58:56am

re: #137 Targetpractice

So the amateur “diplomat” decided the best way to begin peace negotiations is basically just to be the advocate of one side. Gee, wonder why nobody ever thought of that.

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diplomacy: /n./ The art of telling someone to go to hell in such a way he actually looks forward to the trip there.

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:59:12am

So really, when you get down to it, what Kushner did was read Abbas the terms for the Palestinian surrender.

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BigPapa  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:59:35am

re: #138 Eclectic Cyborg

I have the feeling Kushner was smug as shit too when he was detailing those demands.

Unreal. These fuckers are going to start a war. And I think they don’t give a shit if they do.

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 8:59:57am

re: #140 Teukka

diplomacy: /n./ The art of telling someone to go to hell in such a way he actually looks forward to the trip there.

“Diplomacy is the art of saying ‘Nice doggie’ until you can find a rock.”

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:00:25am

re: #142 BigPapa

Nothing bad has happened to them and theirs, so far.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:00:56am

re: #126 jaunte

Premature baby with a heart problem? Just like reckless driving.

Yeah because everyone knows some cars come off the assembly line pre-crashed…

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:03:21am

To run a government like a business requires treating people like machines.

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MsJ  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:06:02am

re: #146 jaunte

To run a government like a business requires treating people like machines.

That is the best way of putting it I’ve ever seen. Tweet that.

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:06:11am

re: #141 Targetpractice

So really, when you get down to it, what Kushner did was read Abbas the terms for the Palestinian surrender.

Basically. At least we don’t have to worry about the Secretary of State getting involved and trying to patch things up…Israel and Palestine don’t have oil.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:09:32am

re: #138 Eclectic Cyborg

I have the feeling Kushner was smug as shit too when he was detailing those demands.

I bet he was wearing his Ray-Bans too.

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BigPapa  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:11:20am

re: #125 darthstar

Don’t fuck with avocado toast.

I’ll not roast the avocado toast.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:11:36am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:12:39am

re: #151 Stanley Sea

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Sensitive much?

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:12:43am

re: #151 Stanley Sea

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Today was Trump’s mandatory weekly freakout about how much better than Obama he is.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:13:22am

Trump is such a baby. Maybe he shouldn’t have gotten so many participation trophies aka million dollar loans.

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:13:30am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:13:51am

re: #153 Targetpractice

Today was Trump’s mandatory weekly freakout about how much better than Obama he is.

And to his supporters he always will simply for being white.

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darthstar  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:18:03am
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darthstar  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:21:08am

Okay…time to go give Banjo a splash…BBL

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:26:31am

re: #157 darthstar

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Has a weak keel, insists that all the rust makes it look “rugged,” and bitches constantly about how its failure to pick up sailboats means they must be lesbians or stuck-up.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:27:23am

re: #159 Targetpractice

Has a weak keel, insists that all the rust makes it look “rugged,” and bitches constantly about how its failure to pick up sailboats means they must be lesbians or stuck-up.

//

Twice as large in dry dock.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:29:55am

So, I happened across this Wikipedia article:
Dog-whistle Politics: United States

You start out in 1954 by saying, “Ni*clang*, ni*clang*, ni*clang*.” By 1968, you can’t say “ni*clang*” — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states’ rights and all that stuff. You’re getting so abstract now [that] you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I’m not saying that. But I’m saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Ni*clang*, ni*clang*.”

— Lee Atwater, Republican Party strategist in an anonymous interview in 1981

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:31:39am

re: #161 Teukka

So, I happened across this Wikipedia article:
Dog-whistle Politics: United States

Yeah. Atwater summed up the Republican electoral strategy of the past 50 years with that.

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stpaulbear  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:34:07am

I know that a lot of people have been roasting this week.

A friend of mine just posted on Facebook that his band’s gig was cancelled because it was too cold outside. It’s 57 right now (11:30) and the highs for the 10-day forecast don’t make it out of the 70’s. 79 on 7/4. Weird.

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:35:33am

Can I take a moment to comment how funny it is that wingnuts insist that anybody who wants to investigate Russian involvement needs to “move on,” but insists Trump’s loss of the popular vote demands investigation?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:36:54am

re: #164 Targetpractice

Can I take a moment to comment how funny it is that wingnuts insist that anybody who wants to investigate Russian involvement needs to “move on,” but insists Trump’s loss of the popular vote demands investigation?

Oh yes, absolutely.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:38:12am

re: #151 Stanley Sea

Trump, on Fox, confirming he called House health care bill “mean” in private mtg

So “mean,” he celebrated its House passage in the Rose Garden.

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stpaulbear  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:40:15am

(deleted because it didn’t post properly)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:41:40am

re: #134 PhillyPretzel

It does not matter. The GOP is going to try to reverse every single good thing that Obama accomplished. That is their idea of “Make America Great again.”

You mean “Make America White Again”, don’t you?

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BigPapa  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:42:21am

Let’s talk about hobbies!

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:46:48am

I came across this fascinating article about a largely-forgotten page in the history of Portland, Oregon.

portlandmercury.com

Tensions had been building for weeks.

Portland Police, emboldened by the newly established Intelligence Division, had become a regular presence in North/Northeast’s Albina neighborhood, monitoring civil rights activity and “agitators.” Police relations with Portland’s African American community had never been positive, but in the summer of 1967, two years after the devastating Watts Riots, distrust between the police and the Black community ratcheted to new heights. In the opinion of many local residents, in particular young Blacks, Albina had come to resemble a police state.

“Where else but in Albina do cops hang around the streets and parks all day like plantation overseers?” commented one young man to an Oregonian reporter. “Just their presence antagonizes us. We feel like we’re being watched all the time.”

In North Portland, as in the rest of the country, tensions between police and the Black community were at an all-time high, and the city was primed to explode.

The summer of 1967 was racked by nationwide uprisings. The “long hot summer” saw 159 racially motivated riots across the United States, beginning in June with violent events in Atlanta, Boston, Cincinnati, Buffalo, and Tampa, followed in July with more outbreaks in Birmingham, Chicago, New York, Minneapolis, and elsewhere. The largest and most extensive riots occurred in Newark, New Jersey (26 dead, 1,500 arrests) and Detroit, Michigan (43 dead, 7,200 arrests).

By the middle of July it seemed as though Portland would escape the violence sweeping the country, but 50 years ago next month, the city’s decades-long practice of discrimination and displacement had finally reached its boiling point.

A very well-written article by Santi Elijah Holley.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2017 • 9:49:29am

Can’t vouch for the balance of the organization that published this, so there might be a bit of Chicken Little. On the other hand, Rick Perry is now in charge of getting this stuff straightened out.

A near-disaster at a federal nuclear weapons laboratory takes a hidden toll on America’s arsenal

apps.publicintegrity.org

en.wikipedia.org

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MsJ  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:01:57am

re: #164 Targetpractice

Can I take a moment to comment how funny it is that wingnuts insist that anybody who wants to investigate Russian involvement needs to “move on,” but insists Trump’s loss of the popular vote demands investigation?

One word: Emails; see Her

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:03:29am

re: #172 MsJ

One word: Emails; see Her

“THERE’S NO POINT IN INVESTIGATING FLYNN BECAUSE HE’S NO LONGER THERE! BUT WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE LYNCH FOR NOT INDICTING HILLARY!!!”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:03:53am

Yre: #169 BigPapa

Let’s talk about hobbies!

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So McConnell is a complete racist — no wonder he gets reelected in Kentucky.

-edited to eliminate text

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:07:23am

I wonder if our resident troll BigBadDemocrat reflects the health care problems of living in a state like Texas that deliberately sabotaged the ACA. Perhaps he would have received subsidies or been eligible for Medicaid if he lived in a decent state and would have a different perspective on issues.

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:09:24am

Remember folks, “let this go” is not an explicit order to kill an investigation, but insisting an investigation be referred to as a “matter” is absolute proof of interfering in it.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:18:03am

It’s official, right wingers now hate Shakespeare.

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:19:22am

re: #177 Charles Johnson

The THREE!!! exclamation points are what magically grants the wish.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:19:51am

re: #177 Charles Johnson

It’s official, right wingers now hate Shakespeare.

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Oh but protesting Milo means you hate freedumb tho.//

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:19:59am

re: #177 Charles Johnson

It’s official, right wingers now hate Shakespeare.

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Obviously she needs a safe zone.

//

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:20:31am

re: #179 HappyWarrior

Oh but protesting Milo means you hate freedumb tho.//

“HOW DARE THEY NOT LET ANN COULTER SPEAK?!”

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Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:21:06am

re: #178 jaunte

The THREE!!! exclamation points are what magically grants the wish.

The correct spelling tells me she’s a Christopher Marlowe plant.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:21:48am

I can just see William saying,”The haters have decided I am not to be. But here I am.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:22:52am

re: #177 Charles Johnson

On the plus side, there’s no spelling mistakes on the sign.

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bratwurst  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:24:21am

Fuck you, asshole.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:24:36am

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

It could be considered a positive. But that sign is so negative so it is a null.

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:26:14am

Remember folks, the people presently wigging out about “hate speech” were bitching earlier this year that it was an attack on free speech that a woman who famously declared:

“We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren’t punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That’s war. And this is war.”

Had her speech at UC Berkley canceled.

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:27:54am

re: #185 bratwurst

Fuck you, asshole.

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A man who hasn’t been politically relevant in a decade offering tips to a party he constantly undermined.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:28:02am

re: #185 bratwurst

Fuck you, asshole.

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Gee I thought the two parties were the same.// You mean they’re in fact different?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:28:51am

re: #182 Decatur Deb

The correct spelling tells me she’s a Christopher Marlowe plant.

Ben Jolson maybe too.

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plansbandc  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:29:00am

re: #182 Decatur Deb

I see what you did there.

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Le Coquí Résistance  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:37:52am

re: #187 Targetpractice

Remember folks, the people presently wigging out about “hate speech” were bitching earlier this year that it was an attack on free speech that a woman who famously declared:

Had her speech at UC Berkley canceled.

Minor nitpick, but her speech (screech?) wasn’t cancelled. The student organization didn’t asked for the permissions on time, and declined all the alternatives offered by the UC Berkley administration. More info: alumni.berkeley.edu

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:39:24am

Talk all the crap you want to about Republicans but at least they have the ability to act united when it matters.

Unless Democrats figure that out soon, we’ll be fucked for years.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:40:28am

re: #185 bratwurst

Nader—still the enabler of Republicans.

Fuck you, Ralph! Nobody did more to put Dumbya in the White House!

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:41:18am

re: #185 bratwurst

No shit. His faction is largely responsible afaik.

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:42:00am

re: #192 Le Coquí Résistance

Minor nitpick, but her speech (screech?) wasn’t cancelled. The student organization didn’t asked for the permissions on time, and declined all the alternatives offered by the UC Berkley administration. More info: alumni.berkeley.edu

A fair point, but the “serious” pundits and all the “moral authorities” bought Coulter’s assertion about her speech being “canceled” hook, line, sinker, rod, and reel. It was the entire point of their “outrage” over the protests, that her “free speech” had been in some way denied and it was an indictment of the entire liberal community that we were in any way opposed to her speech.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:42:20am

re: #195 Unshaken Defiance

No shit. His faction is largely responsible afaik.

The Greens never do. They just continue to act like smug assholes.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:42:25am

re: #164 Targetpractice

And emails and Benghazi ad infiinitum.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:43:25am

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

Talk all the crap you want to about Republicans but at least they have the ability to act united when it matters.

Unless Democrats figure that out soon, we’ll be fucked for years.

fivethirtyeight.com

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:43:32am

Getting
Republicans
Elected
Every
November

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BeachDem  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:43:57am

re: #178 jaunte

The THREE!!! exclamation points are what magically grants the wish.

I also like how Montag, (two exclamation points) a “volunteer co-chairman of a technology committee” is a PARTY OFFICIAL. Kinda like when some precinct chair (Michigan? Somewhere midwest) was CAUGHT saying something stupid and was touted as PARTY OFFICIAL.

Guess I’d better watch my mouth!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:45:59am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

Ben Jolson maybe too.

Ben Jonson?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:46:24am

Look at me, I’m so principled working for the election of a party whose nominee is a Putin apologist.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:46:35am

re: #202 Hecuba’s daughter

Ben Jonson?

Yes.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:48:20am

I got to go. I will be back later. I got to catch the bus back to Philly.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:48:21am

re: #177 Charles Johnson

It’s official, right wingers now hate Shakespeare.

[Embedded content]

*smh*

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:48:27am

re: #201 BeachDem

I also like how Montag, (two exclamation points) a “volunteer co-chairman of a technology committee” is a PARTY OFFICIAL. Kinda like when some precinct chair (Michigan? Somewhere midwest) was CAUGHT saying something stupid and was touted as PARTY OFFICIAL.

Guess I’d better watch my mouth!!

He also got fired immediately. Meanwhile Nugent and that one guy (name escapes me) At the moment who talked the same way about Clinton have gotten WH invitations from Trump himself. So sick of the Republicans bullshit. Stop telling us how easily offended we are and then crying yourself when your poor Trump gets mocked.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:51:15am

You can tell Hillary Clinton to suck your gun and Republicans will loev you, even invite you to the WH once you become President. Make a stupid off hand joke about Trump and it’s “proof” that the left is violent and wants Civil War. So what the hell is it you, right wing fuckwits? Are we violent leftists hellbent on destroying “your” country or are we litlte snowflakes that need a safe space?

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jeffreyw  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:51:45am

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duck breast confit taco

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:53:12am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

You can tell Hillary Clinton to suck your gun and Republicans will loev you, even invite you to the WH once you become President. Make a stupid off hand joke about Trump and it’s “proof” that the left is violent and wants Civil War. So what the hell is it you, right wing fuckwits? Are we violent leftists hellbent on destroying “your” country or are we litlte snowflakes that need a safe space?

Yes.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:55:25am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

You can tell Hillary Clinton to suck your gun and Republicans will loev you, even invite you to the WH once you become President. Make a stupid off hand joke about Trump and it’s “proof” that the left is violent and wants Civil War. So what the hell is it you, right wing fuckwits? Are we violent leftists hellbent on destroying “your” country or are we litlte snowflakes that need a safe space?

It’s simple:
if we object to your insults, we are snowflakes
If we accurately describe your policies, we are violent leftists

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 25, 2017 • 10:57:19am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

You can tell Hillary Clinton to suck your gun and Republicans will loev you, even invite you to the WH once you become President. Make a stupid off hand joke about Trump and it’s “proof” that the left is violent and wants Civil War. So what the hell is it you, right wing fuckwits? Are we violent leftists hellbent on destroying “your” country or are we litlte snowflakes that need a safe space?

It’s whichever suits todays narrative.

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lawhawk  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:02:58am

re: #133 darthstar

This wasn’t negotiating. It was issuing demands. As if that will bring peace.

They aren’t even good at issuing demands.

Heck, you could negotiate in good faith with a set of demands, and still not manage to piss off one or both sides.

What little political capital Kushner has is already burned to a crisp. And you can’t do this kind of work without political capital - trust. No one has a reason to trust any of these people. So, they’ll end up ignoring the entire lot of them.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:03:56am

Well, my fat old rump is not happy after a mere 2-mile round trip ride to the store.
Over a year since I rode my bike. Damn saddle felt like it turned to marble.

Need to get my damn car fixed

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William Lewis  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:09:08am

re: #214 FormerDirtDart

Well, my fat old rump is not happy after a mere 2-mile round trip ride to the store.
Over a year since I rode my bike. Damn saddle felt like it turned to marble.

Need to get my damn car fixed

Oh, tell me about it. Been riding my bike for a month or so since my van died and quite a bit before that. It may be good for my fat old ass but I’m not really all that keen on it. I’m too fat for the seat to stay up - I adjust it to the right height and as soon as I sit on it, it slides down to bottom. Ugh. I hope to have money for a different vehicle soon.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:21:19am

re: #215 William Lewis

Oh, tell me about it. Been riding my bike for a month or so since my van died and quite a bit before that. It may be good for my fat old ass but I’m not really all that keen on it. I’m too fat for the seat to stay up - I adjust it to the right height and as soon as I sit on it, it slides down to bottom. Ugh. I hope to have money for a different vehicle soon.

Yeah, I had to break down and make the trip. My food stocks were running low along with being well into my last roll of toilet paper. And, the last damn light bulb had burnt out in the bathroom, tired of crappin’ and showering in the dark.

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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:22:54am

re: #214 FormerDirtDart

Well, my fat old rump is not happy after a mere 2-mile round trip ride to the store.
Over a year since I rode my bike. Damn saddle felt like it turned to marble.

Need to get my damn car fixed

re: #215 William Lewis

Oh, tell me about it. Been riding my bike for a month or so since my van died and quite a bit before that. It may be good for my fat old ass but I’m not really all that keen on it. I’m too fat for the seat to stay up - I adjust it to the right height and as soon as I sit on it, it slides down to bottom. Ugh. I hope to have money for a different vehicle soon.

I hate to jump in without reading the thread [it’s all I ever do anymore] but here goes:

Damn saddle felt like it turned to marble.

I have seen them do that. For a while, they were made from something comfy when new, and rock-like in a few years. Saddle technology has come a long way. Find a shop that will let you test ride your choices. If you were riding every day, all day, you could sit on a 2x4 (typical original equipment saddle). The less you ride, the more comfort you need. You’re a re-newbie. It will get better if you keep it up.

re: #215 William Lewis

Same goes for you.

It will get better if you keep it up.

Something ain’t right. (Don’t take no mechanic-lernin’ to know that.) It’s either the wrong size seatpost (they come in .2 mm increments [that’s point two millimeter]) or it can’t be made tight enough for some other reason. A good bikeshop can fix it.

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makeitstop  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:30:29am

The dog woke us up early this morning (thanks, Scout), so we decided to head out to one of the prettiest spots in our local area - the Bayard Cutting Arboretum.

In nearly 15 years living in our house, we’ve been to the arboretum numerous times, but always in the off-season. It was nice to walk the grounds in relative solitude, and I got to take pics of the grounds and the lovely foliage.

The Bayard Cutting family used this place as their ‘summer home,’ and willed it to NY State when they passed away. Here are a few shots of their quaint little cottage (cough) and the surrounding grounds. I hid them so they don’t make the page scroll for a mile.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:32:27am

re: #161 Teukka

So, I happened across this Wikipedia article:
Dog-whistle Politics: United States

Make sure you have a link to the audio: thenation.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:32:49am

re: #213 lawhawk

This wasn’t negotiating. It was issuing demands. As if that will bring peace.

They aren’t even good at issuing demands.

Heck, you could negotiate in good faith with a set of demands, and still not manage to piss off one or both sides.

What little political capital Kushner has is already burned to a crisp. And you can’t do this kind of work without political capital - trust. No one has a reason to trust any of these people. So, they’ll end up ignoring the entire lot of them.

They didn’t like Jared’s Trump Gaza Plaza proposal…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:33:27am

re: #219 Belafon

Make sure you have a link to the audio: thenation.com

Yep Atwater says it with no shame at all in his voice. He really was one of the most destructive political forces of the 20th century and it does lessen the legacy of those who employed him including George H.W. Bush who I do respect.

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:35:04am

re: #213 lawhawk

This wasn’t negotiating. It was issuing demands. As if that will bring peace.

They aren’t even good at issuing demands.

Heck, you could negotiate in good faith with a set of demands, and still not manage to piss off one or both sides.

What little political capital Kushner has is already burned to a crisp. And you can’t do this kind of work without political capital - trust. No one has a reason to trust any of these people. So, they’ll end up ignoring the entire lot of them.

I’m old enough to remember when negotiations were where you asked both sides for their conditions to achieve peace, then working to find an agreeable compromise. Apparently now it’s taking sides and expecting the other to continue to believe you’re a neutral third party arbiter.

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stpaulbear  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:35:18am

re: #217 wrenchwench

The last accessory that I bought for my Specialized Rockhopper was a seat stem with a shock absorber built in. It did the trick for me. Unfortunately I quit riding soon after I bought it and the bike has been hanging in the garage for 15 years. I want to get it rehabbed sometime and get back into riding (in order to rehab myself). I live only two blocks from the trails that run along the Mississippi all through St. Paul and Minneapolis

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:37:27am

re: #209 jeffreyw

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duck breast confit taco

I see your taco and raise with today’s tortellini salad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:38:58am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

I see your taco and raise with today’s tortellini salad.

oops…pic didn’t attach:

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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:42:19am

re: #223 stpaulbear

The last accessory that I bought for my Specialized Rockhopper was a seat stem with a shock absorber built in. It did the trick for me. Unfortunately I quit riding soon after I bought it and the bike has been hanging in the garage for 15 years. I want to get it rehabbed sometime and get back into riding (in order to rehab myself). I live only two blocks from the trails that run along the Mississippi all through St. Paul and Minneapolis

The other thing I’ve noticed for those resuming after a long break is that they don’t want so much weight on their hands, crick in their neck, etc. They want to sit up. New stem or handlebar or both. That makes the seat uncomfortable, due to weight-shift. Your suspension seatpost will help there.

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:43:15am
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William Lewis  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:44:44am

re: #217 wrenchwench

Once I’ve paid for another used vehicle (I have a line on a $1000 GMC Jimmy) I’ll take some money & visit the bike shop downtown. I grumble about it but it is the most enjoyable form of exercise I’ve got these days. Thank you for the advice, I do appreciate it.

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:46:10am

Here’s some advice to Jared: The Palestinians have heard all this shit before, you’re not bringing anything new to the table. And Bibi has set you up for failure because (wait for it) that’s the only way he remains in power. If he’s seen as conciliatory and willing to negotiate in good faith, the far-right who are keeping him in power will abandon him and he’ll be out of office.

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stpaulbear  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:49:57am

re: #226 wrenchwench

The other thing I’ve noticed for those resuming after a long break is that they don’t want so much weight on their hands, crick in their neck, etc. They want to sit up. New stem or handlebar or both. That makes the seat uncomfortable, due to weight-shift. Your suspension seatpost will help there.

I may have to lower the seat a half-inch or so (I’m shrinking), but I don’t want to go with an upright posture. It bugs me to see people riding with the seat so low that they can’t even straighten out their legs. They’re losing all of their leverage.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:51:36am

re: #222 Targetpractice

I’m old enough to remember when negotiations were where you asked both sides for their conditions to achieve peace, then working to find an agreeable compromise.

Hell, I’m not even a political or diplomatic expert and that’s the approach I’d take.

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jeffreyw  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:54:46am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks good! Cherry tomatoes, fresh basil, salami, olives, Parmesan, olive oil, plus the pasta?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:58:13am

re: #232 jeffreyw

Looks good! Cherry tomatoes, fresh basil, salami, olives, Parmesan, olive oil, plus the pasta?

all of the above along with baby spinach, diced prosciutto, artichoke hearts, feta, balsamic vinegar, honey.

First time I’ve made it and o.m.g…nom nom nom.

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Targetpractice  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:58:52am

re: #231 Eclectic Cyborg

Hell, I’m not even a political or diplomatic expert and that’s the approach I’d take.

I’ve about as much political and diplomatic experience as Jared seems to possess and yet even I can recognize that there’s no point into setting up peace negotiations when the leadership of both sides benefit from continued conflict.

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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2017 • 11:59:47am

re: #230 stpaulbear

I may have to lower the seat a half-inch or so (I’m shrinking), but I don’t want to go with an upright posture. It bugs me to see people riding with the seat so low that they can’t even straighten out their legs. They’re losing all of their leverage.

I believe shrinkage is more in the spine than the legs, but you’re right. Too low and one misses out on the strongest part of the quads. And may contribute to knee damage. Greg Lemond’s formula is Seat Height = .887 of inseam measurement, ‘Seat Height’ being center of crank to top of saddle. The suspension seatpost messes all that up.

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William Lewis  Jun 25, 2017 • 12:04:06pm

re: #235 wrenchwench

I believe shrinkage is more in the spine than the legs, but you’re right. Too low and one misses out on the strongest part of the quads. And may contribute to knee damage. Greg Lemond’s formula is Seat Height = .887 of inseam measurement, ‘Seat Height’ being center of crank to top of saddle. The suspension seatpost messes all that up.

This is useful to know - my seat is not that high.

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jeffreyw  Jun 25, 2017 • 12:21:48pm

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

all of the above along with baby spinach, diced prosciutto, artichoke hearts, feta, balsamic vinegar, honey.

First time I’ve made it and o.m.g…nom nom nom.

Oh, Yum!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2017 • 2:59:17pm

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