Meet the New Trumpcare, Same as the Old Trumpcare

A gigantic windfall for the super-rich owners of the Republican Party
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The Congressional Budget Office analysis of the Senate Republicans’ monstrous “health care” bill has been released, and it’s every bit as awful as we feared.

The bottom line is simple, and should come as no surprise to anyone who knows what’s really important to the Republican Party. Hint: it’s not about caring for anyone’s health.

This, then, is what the BRCA actually does: It makes health insurance unaffordable for poor people in order to finance a massive tax cut for rich people.

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ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2017 • 3:54:18pm

2
Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2017 • 3:54:27pm

What’s the sense in buying a political party if you can’t take it out for a spin?

3
Targetpractice  Jun 26, 2017 • 3:57:35pm

So what you’re saying is that the bill does exactly what it was designed to do.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:00:23pm

Collins is a “no.” For now.

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Targetpractice  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:01:53pm

re: #4 Ace Rothstein

Collins is a “no.” For now.

I imagine she and Murkowski will be the designated “No” votes, with every other “moderate” suddenly finding their “concern” and “troubles” addressed by McConnell using the “savings” of the bill to parcel out a few bucks for their pet causes.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:01:59pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

So what you’re saying is that the bill does exactly what it was designed to do.

“Everything is proceeding as I have forseen” 720p HD

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:02:27pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

I imagine she and Murkowski will be the designated “No” votes, with every other “moderate” suddenly finding their “concern” and “troubles” addressed by McConnell using the “savings” of the bill to parcel out a few bucks for their pet causes.

Heller’s another weak link. I’d say he gets to be designated before Murkowski, honestly.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:03:41pm
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Timothy Watson  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:04:32pm

re: #8 Dr. Matt

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He would be claiming that they stole his genius ideas!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:07:43pm

Per my statement on the previous thread, and my well-known temperament as a defender-type personality, I posted the following just now on my Facebook feed:

Now that the Senate Republican health care bill is out in front of the public - a fate which the Republicans tried their best to avoid - it’s apparent what the party has in mind for their ideal vision of health insurance: The rich and healthy pay as little as possible; the poor and sick have to pay through the nose. If this makes logical sense to you, I want you to re-examine your priorities. As Christians, our burden of being financially blessed is that we are to care for the poor. I’d be interested to know how saddling them with debt they can never repay just for the privilege of being allowed to cross the threshold of a hospital jibes with that notion. Health care is not compatible with a free-market approach because it is the ones who are least able to pay who need the most care. Do they not deserve the right to a healthy life, the same of the rest of us?

How many people are going to unfriend/unfollow me now? Think I’ll get disowned yet?

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:11:18pm

re: #10 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“WHO SAID I HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE I’M NOT EVEN RELATED TO?!”
“Jesus said it, repeatedly.”
[unfriend]

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freetoken  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:12:50pm

Well, given my well-known cynicism about humanity, I bet many of our fellow Americans just don’t care. And I wonder how of those who do care actually get the facts, versus the hype?

I know people who are quite fine with others dying because they can’t afford healthcare. They just don’t care.

I know other people who do seem to be concerned about their fellow human, but are so caught up in the baby-Jesus-hates-abortion scene that they can’t seem to grasp that letting people die simply due to lack of health care is itself morally worse.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:14:39pm

A musical sanity break that involves live composing on stage with orchestra.

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EmmaAnne  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:15:44pm
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covfefe  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:18:02pm

re: #10 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Let me know if you get some unfollows. I just may have to borrow this from you.

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stpaulbear  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:19:53pm

re: #14 EmmaAnne

She needs to add Jimmy Carter to that list.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:20:41pm

re: #15 covfefe

Let me know if you get some unfollows. I just may have to borrow this from you.

Feel free to copy and paste. I don’t mind, I won’t even seek attribution. I want to make people uncomfortable. I’m not able to stand up to the social and emotional rigors of being politically active, but I will use whatever little gift of rhetoric I have to try to reach those within my sphere.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:21:52pm

Reposting because..

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:23:23pm

re: #12 freetoken

I know people who are quite fine with others dying because they can’t afford healthcare. They just don’t care.

I know other people who do seem to be concerned about their fellow human, but are so caught up in the baby-Jesus-hates-abortion scene that they can’t seem to grasp that letting people die simply due to lack of health care is itself morally worse.

Very few anti-abortion citizens care about the poor; their only interest is in preventing abortions and they are not concerned about the mother, the child, or the family after the birth. They probably don’t care about the health of the fetus either — since that is in God’s hands. Certainly, like Pope Francis, some Catholics combine an opposition to abortion with a concern about the child and the family — but my impression is that is a small minority in the American RC community.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:23:46pm

Won’t be around for a few days. We’re resolving a cluster of birthdays with a 3-gen family glamp-out in TN. Going to

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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:26:32pm

Not sure what part of Florida this turd is from. One thing is for sure. He’s a turd.

MSNBC 06 26 2017 09 40 10

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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:35:59pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:36:38pm

re: #22 Dave In Austin

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Night-oaf

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TedStriker  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:37:41pm

re: #13 klys (maker of Silmarils)

A musical sanity break that involves live composing on stage with orchestra.

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Proud to have Ben as a fellow Nashvillian these days; he helped lead the fight to save the former RCA Studio A (which he was renting for years [and once squeezed the entire Nashville Symphony into]) from the wrecking ball.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:37:43pm

Sanity break…
Not sure if this is more efficient than brushing out the winter coat, but it does seem more entertaining

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:38:11pm

re: #21 Dave In Austin

Not sure what part of Florida this turd is from. One thing is for sure. He’s a turd.

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Video

He is an Ayn Rand quoting turd.

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BeachDem  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:38:54pm

My profile in courage senators:

Sen. Tim Scott (South Carolina) — “I’m close to yes.” (To reporters on 6/22)

Timmy never ever rocks the boat.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (South Carolina) — “I probably will because I think it’s better than Obamacare, which is a disaster.” (Interview with Bloomberg published on 6/26)

(But Lindsey took time from his pandering bullshit today to be his jocular, bon vivant self:
“If the House bill was ‘mean’ according to the president, at 23 million, what’s the Senate bill?” Haake asked Graham.

“Here’s what I would tell any senator—if you’re counting on the president to have your back, you need to watch it,” Graham replied with a laugh.

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nines09  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:39:54pm

re: #22 Dave In Austin

All his supporters are up his ass. Tumor in human form. Walking lamprey.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:40:42pm

re: #25 FormerDirtDart

Sanity break…
Not sure if this is more efficient than brushing out the winter coat, but it does seem more entertaining

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My dogs would never sit still for it.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:42:49pm

re: #21 Dave In Austin

Not sure what part of Florida this turd is from. One thing is for sure. He’s a turd.

Florida 19th, Fort Myers down to Naples.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:43:05pm

re: #25 FormerDirtDart

Sanity break…
Not sure if this is more efficient than brushing out the winter coat, but it does seem more entertaining

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All that undercoat can be spun-combined with a cotton or wool and knitted into sweaters and such.

dog hair doesn’t breathe and must be combined with another fiber to prevent hypothermia.

(I took a class once)

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Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:43:57pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:44:42pm

Jeff Flake hasn’t said anything, as far as I know, but he is up for re-election this year — and his seat is considered at-risk. He just might be another potential no vote. (Could any Arizonan lizards comment on that?)

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nines09  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:45:33pm

re: #27 BeachDem

How Senator Graham sees himself.


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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:45:44pm
This, then, is what the BRCA actually does: It makes health insurance unaffordable for poor people in order to finance a massive tax cut for rich people.

Once you add on deductibles, copays, and annual/lifetime caps in addition to the premiums, health insurance becomes unaffordable to everyone EXCEPT the rich people getting the tax cuts, and they don’t need none of that stinking health insurance like the poors do.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:46:13pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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brown-skinned people, women, poor dead-beats and drug addicts will be screwed.

That’s how it’s better —in some alternate reality known as the American Christian Conservative Republic —this is a moral bill.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:46:26pm

re: #30 FormerDirtDart

Florida 19th, Fort Myers down to Naples.

Ok… The over 65 stronghold. That tells us something.

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:46:55pm

re: #10 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If you would post a link, I would like to share.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:47:08pm

re: #31 Birth Control Works

All that undercoat can be spun-combined with a cotton or wool and knitted into sweaters and such.

dog hair doesn’t breathe and must be combined with another fiber to prevent hypothermia.

(I took a class once)

That’s a thing among Sami owners.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:47:19pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Apparently the right likes to pretend they are stupid:

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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:48:34pm

re: #34 nines09

How Senator Graham sees himself.

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BeachDem  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:48:41pm

re: #33 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Jeff Flake hasn’t said anything, as far as I know, but he is up for re-election this year — and his seat is considered at-risk. He just might be another potential no vote. (Could any Arizonan lizards comment on that?)

CNN whip count shows him “undecided” as of Friday:

Sen. Jeff Flake (Arizona) — A spokesman told CNN on 6/23 he is “genuinely undecided.”

And, of course, the make believe maverick has “CONCERNS”

Sen. John McCain (Arizona) — “I’ve been talking with the governor, and we’re having conversations, and we will go through the whole bill together, and we will have time to discuss it and decide. … Right now the governor’s initial impression is that it’s not helpful to his state. We’re going to continue to have conversations, we’re going to listen to the debate, and decide.” (To CNN on 6/26)

cnn.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:49:21pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

I imagine she and Murkowski will be the designated “No” votes, with every other “moderate” suddenly finding their “concern” and “troubles” addressed by McConnell using the “savings” of the bill to parcel out a few bucks for their pet causes.

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say Capito in WV is also going to be a “no”. If she votes “yes” she’s going to be voted out of office. Medicaid is HUGE in West Virginia.

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nines09  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:49:27pm

re: #40 Dr. Matt

Translation; “I’m not sure it hurts enough people. You know. People. Those…people. Yes. Because. Right? Yes. I’m sure. You know, right?”

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nines09  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:51:34pm

re: #41 Dave In Austin

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:52:01pm

re: #42 BeachDem

I didn’t say he wasn’t evil, I said he might decide it’s in his self-interest to vote against it.

(I have a dinner date, so won’t be around for a while.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:57:54pm

If POTUS manages to loot the entire Social Security and Medicare funds for his own personal use, stupid wingnuts will think that makes him TEH GREATEST BUSINESS DEAL MAKER THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN!!!!!!!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 26, 2017 • 4:58:21pm

re: #42 BeachDem

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:00:21pm

re: #42 BeachDem

CNN whip count shows him “undecided” as of Friday:

Sen. Jeff Flake (Arizona) — A spokesman told CNN on 6/23 he is “genuinely undecided.”

And, of course, the make believe maverick has “CONCERNS”

Sen. John McCain (Arizona) — “I’ve been talking with the governor, and we’re having conversations, and we will go through the whole bill together, and we will have time to discuss it and decide. … Right now the governor’s initial impression is that it’s not helpful to his state. We’re going to continue to have conversations, we’re going to listen to the debate, and decide.” (To CNN on 6/26)

cnn.com

McCain is such a lameass.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:01:46pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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Simple, that black guy Jim hates doesn’t support it.

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BeachDem  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:03:01pm

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Such a “MAVRIK”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:04:53pm

re: #51 BeachDem

Meanwhile:

Of course, that’s probably qualified as “for the current version only” but hey.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:07:09pm

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Matt Fuller ✔ @MEPFuller
John McCain says there are “lots” he’d like to see changed in the health care bill, but not withholding support.

“That’s not how it works.”
5:08 PM - 26 Jun 2017]

A friend has constantly disparaged John McCain for as long as I’ve known him. He certainly appears completely right. Whatever courage McCain had during the Vietnam War has long since been discarded. Trump mocked him and he came back for more. He is worthless. He has abandoned any decency he once possessed in order to kowtow to the party over country crowd.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:08:42pm

re: #52 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Meanwhile:

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Of course, that’s probably qualified as “for the current version only” but hey.

Qualified for “unless there are 2 other R Senators who have to vote no”.

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Birth Control Works  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:16:19pm

The possible merit of the health-care bill is correlates directly to how each Congress Critters constituents will vote at the next election.

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BeachDem  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:19:03pm

re: #52 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Meanwhile:

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Of course, that’s probably qualified as “for the current version only” but hey.

Susan always gets to play the “sweet, thoughtful moderate” when they don’t need her vote. See also, “feisty bold Lisa Murkowski.” It’s an autoplay story on an endless loop.

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BeachDem  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:20:56pm

re: #53 Hecuba’s daughter

A friend has constantly disparaged John McCain for as long as I’ve known him. He certainly appears completely right. Whatever courage McCain had during the Vietnam War has long since been discarded. Trump mocked him and he came back for more. He is worthless. He has abandoned any decency he once possessed in order to kowtow to the party over country crowd.

If you’ve never read it: Make Believe Maverick. Rolling Stone had him dead to rights in 2008.

rollingstone.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:24:09pm

re: #57 BeachDem

Thank you for the link ( in this dead thread!)

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Birth Control Works  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:30:14pm

bbl


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