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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:08:18pm

The next Trump defense (actually being used RIGHT NOW by fuckbags Newt Gingrich and Sean Hannity)
YEAH IT IS ILLEGAL BUT THE PRESIDENT IS ABOVE THE LAW & CAN EVEN KILL PEOPLE WITH IMPUNITY.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:09:26pm

We are approaching Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men. In a couple more tweets Trump will be saying you’re goddamn right I colluded with Russia.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:16:43pm

DEFENSE LAWYER: “Would you punch this face?”
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: “I would not be able to help myself.”
DEFENSE LAWYER: “You’re excused!”

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:18:04pm

re: #3 The Vicious Babushka

DEFENSE LAWYER: “Would you punch this face?”
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: “I would not be able to help myself.”
DEFENSE LAWYER: “You’re excused!”

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Why can’t they lie like those in cop trials do?

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:25:55pm

It is amazing that the uncouth one and his “team” are pointing out that collusion is not a crime. It is like him saying over and over again he is going to “Make America Great Again.” This sorry excuse of a human being is using the same “trick” he always uses. Keep repeating a good sounding phrase and keep saying it so no one can figure out what you are really doing.

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JordanRules  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:30:48pm

re: #3 The Vicious Babushka

Ha! That would definitely be me.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:33:50pm

Fraud Trial for Martin Shkreli, ‘Most Hated Man in America,’ Begins Monday

According to his attorney, Benjamin Brafman, Shkreli — who once claimed to be worth as much as $70 million — is now penniless and “doesn’t have any cash.”

Would that it were true, BUT:

Earlier this month, Shkreli posted on his Facebook page that he had donated $40,000 to a Princeton University graduate for solving a geometry proof, offered to “put up $100,000” for information that would solve a conspiracy theory and boasted that he recently dined at the same restaurant as Eric Trump.

Shkreli has also boasted that he owns a Picasso painting and an original Enigma wartime code-breaking machine valued at nearly $300,000, had purchased the domain names of reporters he didn’t like and had purchased secret albums by Wu-Tang Clan and Lil Wayne.

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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:35:25pm

Official song of Trumpcare™.

Kill the Poor

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JordanRules  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:36:39pm

Joy’s got a good thread rolling.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:37:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:38:09pm

re: #10 Stanley Sea

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Lovely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:40:29pm

re: #3 The Vicious Babushka

DEFENSE LAWYER: “Would you punch this face?”
ME AS PROSPECTIVE JUROR: “I would definitely fix that malpractice plastic nose.”
DEFENSE LAWYER: “You’re excused!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:41:12pm

re: #10 Stanley Sea

Yeah, the rest of the world is alternating between laughing at us because of how stupid our leader is or being scared as shit for the same reason.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:42:54pm

re: #9 JordanRules

Joy’s got a good thread rolling.

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I’m reading about Martin Van Buren and his shady campaign to get Andrew Jackson elected (most prominently the appeal to white supremacy). While the parallels can be taken too far, it’s interesting that one of Trump’s first acts was a pilgrimage to Jackson’s home.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:45:50pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

I would not call Shkreli’s nose job “malpractice.” I am sure he paid a premium to Michael Jackson’s cosmetic surgeon for the signature designer nostrils.

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garzooma  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:45:56pm

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

The next Trump defense (actually being used RIGHT NOW by fuckbags Newt Gingrich and Sean Hannity)
YEAH IT IS ILLEGAL BUT THE PRESIDENT IS ABOVE THE LAW & CAN EVEN KILL PEOPLE WITH IMPUNITY.

You can sort of see this coming — as long as Trump can thwart investigations into crimes committed by Putin, why shouldn’t Putin arrange for some “accidents” to occur to American opponents, like he does elsewhere?

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JordanRules  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:47:08pm

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

Yup. That symbolism was not lost on a lot of us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:47:14pm

re: #15 The Vicious Babushka

I would not call Shkreli’s nose job “malpractice.” I am sure he paid a premium to Michael Jackson’s cosmetic surgeon for the signature designer nostrils.

Fools and money…it never changes…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:48:00pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:49:14pm

The numbers on Trumpcare are obscene. For example, the 400 richest households in America will receive, on average, an $82 million tax cut each, paid for by eliminating Medicaid coverage for 725,000 low income people.

vox.com

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Shiplord Kirel  Jun 26, 2017 • 5:54:16pm

Potential jurors on Pharma Bro: He’s ‘evil,’ a ‘snake’ and a ‘d-k’

“I think he’s a very evil man,” seethed the first juror to be dismissed, after flouncing over to speak to the judge with her frog backpack in tow.

Yet another recalled that, as she walked into the courtroom, she made eye contact with Shkreli, and​, recoiled.

“In my head, I said, ‘That’s a snake,’” the woman told attorneys. She was promptly dismissed.

​Another prospective juror even went so far as to mime wringing Shkreli’s neck, as she called him “a person who puts profit over everything else.”

Random folk from the jury pool wanting to murder the defendant. Not a good sign, Martin, not good at all.

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:01:02pm

re: #21 Shiplord Kirel

Potential jurors on Pharma Bro: He’s ‘evil,’ a ‘snake’ and a ‘d-k’

Random folk from the jury pool wanting to murder the defendant. Not a good sign, Martin, not good at all.

The only way he could get a fair trial is to not be in the courtroom.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:05:25pm
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jaunte  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:09:09pm

re: #23 klys (maker of Silmarils)

“Dementors hold no true loyalty, except to whomever can provide them with the most people to feed off.” harrypotter.wikia.com

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:09:30pm

My local PBS station has POV: Dalya’s Other Country on the air. It is very interesting.
whyy.org

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:09:41pm

re: #24 jaunte

“Dementors hold no true loyalty, except to whomever can provide them with the most people to feed off.” harrypotter.wikia.com

…so you’re saying Donald is a Dementor? Checks out.

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bratwurst  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:23:46pm

I continue to believe that Chris Cillizza is the most loathsome pundit on CNN. Unlike the various Trump shills they put on the air, Cillizza has the veneer of being some kind of journalist.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:24:54pm

re: #27 bratwurst

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I continue to believe that Chris Cillizza is the most loathsome pundit on CNN. Unlike the various Trump shills they put on the air, Cillizza has the veneer of being some kind of journalist.

Wtf.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:31:58pm
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Lidane  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:32:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:42:55pm

Behind the scenes we’re fighting off a major attack by spammers tonight.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:44:31pm

Russia!! (& Israel)

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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:45:28pm
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jaunte  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:47:15pm

re: #32 Stanley Sea

Trump is getting together with Putin at the G-20 meeting in 10 days. The negative numbers will get deeper.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:48:03pm

re: #32 Stanley Sea

Russia!! (& Israel)

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No surprise there.

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darthstar  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:48:47pm

re: #32 Stanley Sea

Russia!! (& Israel)

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Winning in the countries that matter .
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Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:49:33pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:51:01pm

The Gamergate Trolls tried to hijack VidCon last weekend.
themarysue.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:51:20pm

re: #32 Stanley Sea

Russia!! (& Israel)

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WTF is wrong with Israel? :(

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bratwurst  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:53:03pm

re: #39 The Vicious Babushka

WTF is wrong with Israel? :(

Some similar problems to this country: a lot of politicians who do nothing but pander to the worst elements in society, aided and abetted by off the rails right-wing media.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:53:16pm

re: #39 The Vicious Babushka

WTF is wrong with Israel? :(

RWinging.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:53:53pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

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oh good fucking grief

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Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:56:18pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Behind the scenes we’re fighting off a major attack by spammers tonight.

“Mr. Jones, get a couple more men in the fighting tops to worry their crew with musket fire.”

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A Cranky One  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:57:37pm

re: #26 klys (maker of Silmarils)

…so you’re saying Donald is a Dementor? Checks out.

Explains why my soul feels sucked out since the election.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:58:02pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:58:19pm
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Amory Blaine  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:59:15pm

This guy’s ready to rock.

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William Lewis  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:59:41pm

I mentioned this earlier today, thought I’d mention it again. Since today was my day off and I was puttering with my guitar in between posts here. If anyone cares to listen to a bad recording made by putting my phone on top of my amp, I’ve got the first cut of the music for song I’m trying to write. The recording is poor & there are a bunch of hiccups in my playing as I’m still trying to get the rhythm and progression down (especially the shift from the key of G to C and back at the bridge) but if anyone wants to listen and comment, I’d not mind. It’s on my google drive:
drive.google.com

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Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2017 • 6:59:52pm
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prairiefire  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:02:04pm

re: #48 William Lewis

I like it!

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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:02:21pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:02:47pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:07:54pm

Ford is paying for a massive fireworks display on the Detroit river with the GM building in the background.

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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:10:04pm

Best weekend of the summer (for me, at least), comin’ up!

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ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:11:36pm

re: #27 bratwurst

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I continue to believe that Chris Cillizza is the most loathsome pundit on CNN. Unlike the various Trump shills they put on the air, Cillizza has the veneer of being some kind of journalist.

I just had to…’cuz Chris is a guy I like so much…

…to make fun of like this.

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Lidane  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:15:46pm

re: #23 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Trump’s a squib. He doesn’t belong in any of the houses.

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William Lewis  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:16:03pm

re: #50 prairiefire

I like it!

Thank you :)

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stpaulbear  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:18:08pm

re: #47 Amory Blaine

This guy’s ready to rock.

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That movie is fascinating because the look was ahead of the technology. So much of that movie was hand tinted and the computer animation was a pain in the ass.

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Lidane  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:19:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:25:28pm

jeebus

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:28:00pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:30:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:30:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:31:36pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:32:47pm

He’s watching Fox

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:33:39pm

re: #32 Stanley Sea

Russia!! (& Israel)

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And the Philippines loves us too now…imagine that.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:34:06pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Pathetic.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:35:43pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But they’re not progressive enough.// seriously good for them.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:36:50pm

Gators take game 1!!!!!

College World Series. Best of 3.

(LSWhooo?)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:38:31pm

This is like a bad movie where your crazy uncle who watches nothing but Fox News becomes President.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:39:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:39:59pm

more jeebus…somebody take that phone away from him…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:41:09pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

more jeebus…somebody take that phone away from him…

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I can’t wait for them to rule against him and for him to explode in anger. He really thinks he won this when he lost quite a bit.

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jaunte  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:41:14pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:41:28pm
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Romantic Heretic  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:41:34pm

re: #38 DodgerFan1988

The Gamergate Trolls tried to hijack VidCon last weekend.
themarysue.com

Snarl.

Mr. Benjamin, like all MPAs (Men’s Power Activists), is just pissed that the power he believes men once had isn’t accessible to him anymore.

Plus he knows he’s got such a toxic personality that he’ll never get laid and so is trying to make it so he can order women to fuck him.

Loser. Weakling.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:41:42pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I can’t wait for them to rule against him and for him to explode in anger. He really thinks he won this when he lost quite a bit.

indeed…he hasn’t won a damned thing yet.

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jaunte  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:41:43pm
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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:42:11pm

Think wine……

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Interesting Times  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:42:38pm

re: #9 JordanRules

Joy’s got a good thread rolling.

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From the replies:

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:43:11pm

re: #80 Dave In Austin

Think wine……

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So, California will have the first farms that pay a wage American’s will work for?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:44:06pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

indeed…he hasn’t won a damned thing yet.

It is just astounding how ignorant he is. He makes all his predecessors look that much better.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:44:33pm

re: #82 Belafon

Growers are fighting over what’s available…

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:45:36pm

re: #84 Dave In Austin

Growers are fighting over what’s available…

I know, but, when labor is scarce, wages go up, which will attract people.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:46:20pm

re: #77 Romantic Heretic

Snarl.

Mr. Benjamin, like all MPAs (Men’s Power Activists), is just pissed that the power he believes men once had isn’t accessible to him anymore.

Plus he knows he’s got such a toxic personality that he’ll never get laid and so is trying to make it so he can order women to fuck him.

Loser. Weakling.

That last point is common to all so-called MRA’s. They don’t understand that the reason they’re “finishing last” isn’t because they’re nice guys, but because they’re complete twatwaffles trying to pretend to be nice guys.

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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:47:04pm
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Lidane  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:48:01pm
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jaunte  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:48:22pm

This is not good.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:49:15pm

re: #89 jaunte

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This is not good.

And he’s tweeting at Hannity.

My dog.

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Interesting Times  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:51:01pm

re: #88 Lidane

Buzzfeed: Officials at US Central Command have “no idea” what prompted the White House statement on Syria tonight.

Easy. Pretext for another “drool over the beauty of our weapons” military strike to distract from GOPDontCare.

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jaunte  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:51:07pm

If this is intended as a distraction, we’ve reached a new level of White House criminality.

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ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:51:40pm

re: #85 Belafon

I know, but, when labor is scarce, wages go up, which will attract people.

That thinking may get tested when it comes to the type of work required. I don’t think there are a lot of Americans that know the work and how to get it done, or actually want to learn and do it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:51:46pm

re: #89 jaunte

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This is not good.

Oh, come on, what could POSSIBLY go wrong?!

[Prepares nuclear bunker.]

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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:52:10pm

re: #85 Belafon

True, but pickers and packers with no experience or knowledge of what’s expected will be a challenge. I’m sure migrant families have been working the same fields for generations. Now they can’t get back over the borders to pick. Growers just aren’t prepared for this

I read a while back the Growers in the south wanted to prison labor. I’m not sure that worked out either.

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jaunte  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:53:08pm

MIlitary/civilian coordination rivaling that of the Spanish-American War

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Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:55:03pm

re: #96 jaunte

MIlitary/civilian coordination rivaling that of the Spanish-American War

He told us about the courier pigeons.

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ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:55:11pm

re: #88 Lidane

Kyle Griffin ✔ @kylegriffin1
Buzzfeed: Officials at US Central Command have “no idea” what prompted the White House statement on Syria tonight.buzzfeed.com
10:42 PM - 26 Jun 2017

They may not have an idea, but I bet they have some pretty good guesses what prompted it.

Said it the other day, the discussions at The Pentagon these days have got to be very interesting. I wonder if Trump asked all the military to sign non-disclosure forms.

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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:56:05pm

When a senator is calling for people to call their senators…

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Amory Blaine  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:56:17pm

The Far-Right Alliance Is Over

We were promised a showdown at high noon. Instead, Washington DC was host to two pitifully-attended competing rallies this Sunday, followed by a Twitter slapfight between two 39-year-old men. What was scheduled to be a single rally for free speech at the Lincoln Memorial was cleaved in two when several speakers became aware they were sharing the bill with an avowed white supremacist. With that split, any tenuous alliance that may have existed in America’s political far right is now rapidly waning, along with its membership.

Across from the White House in shady Lafayette Park, a who’s who of right wing Twitterati whom the vast majority Americans still have never heard of—Mike Cernovich, Laura Loomer, Jack Posobiec, Cassandra Fairbanks, Lucian Wintrich, Kyle Prescott—were posing for selfies with fans and taking turns at a makeshift podium. But despite over 600,000 Twitter followers combined and direct access to mid-level conservative outlets like The Rebel, Big League Politics, and Gateway Pundit, the Rally Against Political Violence managed to draw 150 people at most to the nation’s capitol. Gathering to cheerlead the president was the typical cadre of young, white, meme-fluent men, but families and veterans as well. Many on the outskirts claimed to be tourists, and Lafayette Park’s crowd was outnumbered by the anti-abortion gaggle in front of the White House gates. The event’s keynote speaker, former Trump advisor Roger Stone, was a no-show.

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Lidane  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:59:10pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2017 • 7:59:31pm
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Belafon  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:00:45pm

re: #93 ObserverArt

That thinking may get tested when it comes to the type of work required. I don’t think there are a lot of Americans that know the work and how to get it done, or actually want to learn and do it.

Remember when McCain said no American would work a farm for $50/hr?

If we could figure out a way to get coal miners from West Virginia to California and back each day? Maybe Musk’s tunnel would work.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:00:50pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

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And it may work.

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ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:01:34pm

re: #100 Amory Blaine

The Far-Right Alliance Is Over

Thanks for that. When it was announced last week there was a split in the demonstration I was hoping it would be a big fizzle-out. Too funny, but yet sad and pathetic at the same time.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:01:45pm

Nothing to see here, move along now…

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Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:01:51pm

re: #100 Amory Blaine

Stone was a no show? LoFuckingL

Cassandra must have cried.

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:02:12pm

re: #98 ObserverArt

They may not have an idea, but I bet they have some pretty good guesses what prompted it.

Said it the other day, the discussions at The Pentagon these days have got to be very interesting. I wonder if Trump asked all the military to sign non-disclosure forms.

He’s their boss in a way unlike at, say, the DOE. They can be worse than fired for speaking out against him.

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JordanRules  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:02:24pm

re: #81 Interesting Times

Yikes! That is quite a pic. Great quote from the great Molly too!

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:05:11pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart

Nothing to see here, move along now…

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And I think this is the difference between the left and the right. We say, “Nothing to see here, move along now,” maybe being sarcastic, maybe being defeatist, maybe both. The right would foam at the mouth and let everyone know about it, from their congressman to TV to newspaper.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:06:59pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

And it may work.

Didn’t last time (for more than five minutes).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:07:16pm

Okay, I’ve been wanting to go an extended rant/commentary about Trumpcare all day long.

Typing such a thing up using the keypad on my iPhone would be time consuming, but I’m using an iPad with a keyboard now so here we go! *cracks knuckles*

It is no secret I am Canadian. I have experience living under a single payer system and while I will be the absolute first to admit it is not perfect by any stretch, it is miles ahead of a lot of what qualifies as “healthcare” here in the USA.

There’s a lot of reasons for that.

The White House issued a tweet/statement today basically mocking the CBO for getting the numbers so wrong on Obamacare, but here’s the problem with that:

The CBOs numbers were probably arrived at under three assumptions:

1) Pretty much every state would accept the Medicaid expansion
2) The vast majority of those Obamacare would help to cover would opt to get coverage vs. paying the penalty
3) The insurance companies would play fair game and create a somewhat competitive marketplace

Of course, we all know what ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

All the deep Red States hopped on the “Fuck Obamacare” bandwagon and never looked back, screwing their own residents in the process by refusing the Medicaid expansion out of principle because of scary black man, something, something.

To deal with the penalty, the GOP both weakened it legislatively as much as they could and convinced their followers that NOT getting covered and paying the penalty was a badge of honor as if to say “screw you government, I’m an American and you don’t get to tell me what to do!”.

Finally of course, the insurance companies acted like insurance companies and basically did as little as they could possibly get away with to comply with the law.

To use an analogy here, what the GOP did was like me saying I can beat you in a 200 M race. You accept the challenge, but before the race I put lead weights in your shoes and tie your laces together. Then, when I kick your butt in the race I say: “See? Told you I could beat you!”

Or, to use a different analogy, it’s like one person throwing gasoline on a fire another person is trying to extinguish.

It’s immature. It’s unfair. It’s incredibly stupid. And yet it’s what the GOP are doing again and again and again.

But here’s my major complaint about Obamacare and Trumpcare: Neither bill does enough to address the root causes of skyrocketing healthcare costs. Why don’t we look at things like making it illegal for a hospital to charge $200 for a single aspirin pill, or for a doctor to leave a business card by an unconscious patient and bill for a “consultation”, or for a maternity ward to charge a new mother a “skin to skin” fee for the privilege of holding her new baby, or doing something about this in network/out of network crap that makes costs even more confusing and inflated?

The lack of transparency in medical billing and costs of services is hurting all of us. Hospitals and doctors aren’t cutting rates or fees, we’re just paying more and more to have to keep up with it.

Trumpcare and Obamacare are pretty much only concerned with WHO is paying and not WHY the costs are so high. Until we take a long, hard look at that we’re never going to get it right on healthcare.

I support the right of Doctors, Nurses, Clinics and Pharmaceutical companies to make money, but I don’t believe they have the right to repeatedly and wantonly gouge Americans by inflating the cost of services and fees to incredibly ridiculous levels. We need legislation that will hold everyone involved in the process accountable, including the patient.

The other problem is that we can’t even agree as a people that every American has the right to healthcare.

Let me say that again: The so-called “Greatest Country in the World” can not agree on that EVERYONE DESERVES HEALTHCARE. That’s how crazy and polarized politics have become in this country.

It’s getting out of hand and it’s literally killing us.

I love this country and that’s why I’ve been so angry about this stuff lately.

America deserves better.

If we really want to make America great, it’s time we took our collective heads out of our asses and all agreed that helping ones fellow man was a very noble, very honorable and very American thing to do.

“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free…”

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:07:30pm

LOL, whatever you need to tell yourself bro.

I wish Bernie Bros would just admit that all they want the law to say they get a free ponycorn and don’t give one single thought to how that’s actually supposed to happen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:11:09pm

re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

Standing up and applauding loudly!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:12:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:13:03pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:14:39pm
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Belafon  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:14:54pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

LOL, whatever you need to tell yourself bro.

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I wish Bernie Bros would just admit that all they want the law to say they get a free ponycorn and don’t give one single thought to how that’s actually supposed to happen.

I’m not sure what world that person lives in, but it’s not mine.

Edit: Instead, I have a gym membership, and I’m trying to make myself go to sleep earlier.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:15:10pm

re: #111 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Didn’t last time (for more than five minutes).

All I remember from last time is Princess Ivanka’s supposed influence.

And an operational runway a day later.

So yeah.

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ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:15:24pm

re: #107 Stanley Sea

Stone was a no show? LoFuckingL

Cassandra must have cried.

Stone probably saw the low turnout and said his contract called for at least two thousand attendees minimum.

Hey, a man has got to have some standards.

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ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:20:43pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔ @Green_Footballs
@ABC7Chicago What kind of idiot thinks Martha is “ugly?”


11:14 PM - 26 Jun 2017

Iframe

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Kragar  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:20:45pm
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Kragar  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:25:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:25:33pm

re: #122 Kragar

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our foreign policy went to Jared’s….

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:27:08pm

Guys stupid question but with my trip this summer, I have a hour layover in Iceland. As long as I’m on the same airline, that’s okay right or did I royally screw myself over here?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:28:05pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Guys stupid question but with my trip this summer, I have a hour layover in Iceland. As long as I’m on the same airline, that’s okay right or did I royally screw myself over here?

how would you screw yourself over?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:29:07pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

how would you screw yourself over?

Well I’m seeing online that a hour is too little time for a connecting flight. My flight lands in Iceland at 6:20 and departs for Munich at 7:20. Maybe I’m just being paranoid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:30:46pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

Well I’m seeing online that a hour is too little time for a connecting flight. My flight lands in Iceland at 6:20 and departs for Munich at 7:20. Maybe I’m just being paranoid.

ok, if you are on the same airline, it probably isn’t a problem.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:30:55pm

Okay, wait I’m an idiot. It’s a connecting flight. Duh. Sorry just a little antsy.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:31:19pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

ok, if you are on the same airline, it probably isn’t a problem.

Yeah I don’t think it will be. Phew. Sometimes I just overthink.

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jaunte  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:31:48pm

Martha’s a cutie.

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ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:34:36pm

re: #131 jaunte

Martha’s a cutie.

The Today Show video at least made mention the Ugly Dog contest is about giving love to all dogs and raises money and awareness for rescue groups.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:37:57pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:38:08pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:39:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:39:34pm

re: #133 goddamnedfrank

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And it’s not like the CA Dem Majority Leader took the universal health care off the table. He wants to make sure it’s affordable. He’s doing gasp the fiscally conservative thing. And Sanders being Sanders immediately did the kneejerk thing as always.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:40:08pm

re: #135 teleskiguy

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But Russia likes him so it’s all good. //

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:40:14pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Interesting Times  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:45:25pm

re: #133 goddamnedfrank

Re the national Dems, why not propose a single-payer plan that’s costed out, even if it’s paid for by something the GOPer congress would never go for? (i.e. marginal tax hike on top earners)

US voters respond to grand gestures, not details. Look how much con-artist crap Pumpkin Pinochet got away with. To say things like “don’t bother proposing something that won’t make it out of committee” misses the point, I think - voters would respect you a hell of a lot more if you at least tried (and if your plan is scuttled, doesn’t that write the campaign ads for you? “We would have had single-player if it hadn’t been for R-Scumbag. Vote Dem next time”)

One reason turnout crashed in 2010 (which led to the GOPer majorities in a census year which led to the gerrymandering hell the US is in now) was because of disillusioned Dem base voters who didn’t think the ACA went far enough. Again, even if you know a bill won’t get anywhere, it’s worth proposing just so at least you can say you did.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:47:29pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

Exactly!
Homely my ass!

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:51:03pm
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Kragar  Jun 26, 2017 • 8:51:26pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 26, 2017 • 9:03:25pm

re: #139 Interesting Times

Re the national Dems, why not propose a single-payer plan that’s costed out, even if it’s paid for by something the GOPer congress would never go for? (i.e. marginal tax hike on top earners)

US voters respond to grand gestures, not details. Look how much con-artist crap Pumpkin Pinochet got away with. To say things like “don’t bother proposing something that won’t make it out of committee” misses the point, I think - voters would respect you a hell of a lot more if you at least tried (and if your plan is scuttled, doesn’t that write the campaign ads for you? “We would have had single-player if it hadn’t been for R-Scumbag. Vote Dem next time”)

One reason turnout crashed in 2010 (which led to the GOPer majorities in a census year which led to the gerrymandering hell the US is in now) was because of disillusioned Dem base voters who didn’t think the ACA went far enough. Again, even if you know a bill won’t get anywhere, it’s worth proposing just so at least you can say you did.

And it would help the Democrats gain power in 2020, and they could pass it through reconciliation in 2021.


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