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1
Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2017 • 9:54:25pm

Orrin Hatch shames Lil’ Tucker….. Maybe it’s just me but Sen Hatch seems a little confused these days.

2
freetoken  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:00:56pm

re: #1 Dave In Austin

Hatch has long been confused. Sometimes it seems he just randomly takes positions.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:01:19pm

From the last thread:

re: #117 teleskiguy

Thanks for that link [to Scotusblog]. That’s helpful. :)

The big complaint here in the Nebr. Panhandle was sheriff departments here complaining that there was weed coming over the state line. (That never happened before Colo. legalised it of course.)

The state government here when the Supreme Court petition by Nebr. and Okla. was denied attempted to pass a bill to close all roads going from Western Nebraska and the Panhandle (except for the eleven paved ones), allegedly to prevent smuggling. They also wanted to allow “citizen’s posses” to patrol the state line.

Farmers across the region then protested that, arguing it would screw up their farming businesses, and that bill died in the Unicameral.

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:01:29pm

Keeping up on the states (up to 5 that I know of now) that have refused Kobach/Pence/Blackwell voter suppression info—add Massachusetts:

PRESIDENT TRUMP’S COMMISSION to investigate allegations of voter fraud is reaching out to state officials to gather information, but they won’t be getting a lot of help from Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin.

commonwealthmagazine.org

I’m keeping a list, so if you hear of any others, please post.

Just emailed my friend who’s a voting rights attorney here to see what we can do about keeping this dog forsaken state from complying.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:02:26pm

I find this strangely stimulating…….

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Amory Blaine  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:04:52pm

re: #1 Dave In Austin

Carlson was born in San Francisco, California, the elder son of Richard Warner Carlson, a former Los Angeles news anchor and U.S. ambassador to the Seychelles, who was also president of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and director of Voice of America. His mother is the former Lisa McNear Lombardi,[4] and his stepmother is the former Patricia Caroline Swanson, an heiress to the Swanson frozen-food fortune (daughter of Gilbert Carl Swanson and granddaughter of Carl A. Swanson) and a niece of Senator J. William Fulbright.

The privilege, it drips.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:10:20pm

re: #4 BeachDem

Doesn’t the Federal government have an existing voter database?

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:11:13pm

Are farmers in CO growing commercial hemp now as well?

Since the black market in cannabis is alive and well in Texas, I think most here is grown locally in the basement or comes in from CO. Some guy got busted in LLano yesterday flying a couple of hundred lbs in from Oregon. Bad flight plan….

An oz. in Austin goes for $200+ and you never know what it is. My nose is pretty good as telling these days. I’m old school when a seedy oz. of Mexican was $10 and seedy Columbian (Tasty…) was $20.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:12:15pm

re: #6 Amory Blaine

The bow-tie sez it all…….

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:12:38pm

re: #4 BeachDem

Keeping up on the states (up to 5 that I know of now) that have refused Kobach/Pence/Blackwell voter suppression info—add Massachusetts:

PRESIDENT TRUMP’S COMMISSION to investigate allegations of voter fraud is reaching out to state officials to gather information, but they won’t be getting a lot of help from Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin.

commonwealthmagazine.org

I’m keeping a list, so if you hear of any others, please post.

Just emailed my friend who’s a voting rights attorney here to see what we can do about keeping this dog forsaken state from complying.

I’m not sure what I can do to oppose the idea here in Nebraska. I personally know my Republican state senator, but I don’t know where he stands on this issue.

I guess after I call the insurance company tomorrow, I’ll call his office in opposition to violations of privacy over this.

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:15:25pm

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Doesn’t the Federal government have an existing voter database?

No—it’s a state thing. And they want WAY more than even makes sense—voting records/history/party registration, full names, addresses, birthdates, last 4 digits of ss#, military history, arrest records.

They are up to no good and I hope there’s a whole lot of pushback. Kris Fucking Kobach is bad enough to make the hair on your head stand up straight, but adding in Ken Fucking Blackwell and it could be a complete fucking of voting rights.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:16:13pm

Green Screen!!!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:17:01pm

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Doesn’t the Federal government have an existing voter database?

Voter roles are controlled by state governments.

In the past, some states have tried to prevent active duty military personnel from voting by refusing the Federal election ballot (Kansas made an attempt at that when I was in the Navy), arguing the states could not verify the eligibility of active duty voters.

The Federal ballot only allows voting for Federal candidates (it has no provision for state or local elections), so the courts have consistently thrown those arguments out.

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:18:16pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not sure what I can do to oppose the idea here in Nebraska. I personally know my Republican state senator, but I don’t know where he stands on this issue.

I guess after I call the insurance company tomorrow, I’ll call his office in opposition to violations of privacy over this.

Doesn’t really have anything to do with state senators. I guess they could have some input, but it’s mainly a SoS thing (and probably governors might weigh in.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:18:45pm

re: #11 BeachDem

No—it’s a state thing. And they want WAY more than even makes sense—voting records/history/party registration, full names, addresses, birthdates, last 4 digits of ss#, military history, arrest records.

They are up to no good and I hope there’s a whole lot of pushback. Kris Fucking Kobach is bad enough to make the hair on your head stand up straight, but adding in Ken Fucking Blackwell and it could be a complete fucking of voting rights.

I don’t recall putting my military history down on my voter registration application, and my records were released to Florida anyway (I got out of the Navy in Jacksonville).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:19:50pm

re: #14 BeachDem

Doesn’t really have anything to do with state senators. I guess they could have some input, but it’s mainly a SoS thing (and probably governors might weigh in.)

I could also put in a call to the state Secretary of State’s office too. State legislators opposing this might put pressure on the SoS if he might be considering this.

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:22:45pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t recall putting my military history down on my voter registration application, and my records were released to Florida anyway (I got out of the Navy in Jacksonville).

It’s just military status—I was typing too fast.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:29:39pm

re: #17 BeachDem

It’s just military status—I was typing too fast.

I don’t recall putting my military status on a voter registration form either.

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10:42 PM * Jun 29, 2017

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:48:17pm

Guess Who??

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:50:04pm

re: #20 Dave In Austin

Eric Clapton?

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:52:40pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

Eric Clapton?

Yep. World record Icelandic Salmon a few years ago. Man can throw a fly as well…

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:54:41pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t recall putting my military status on a voter registration form either.

From the letter:

the publicly available voter roll data for (state), including, if publicly available under the laws of your state, the full first and last names of all registrants, middle names or initials if available, addresses, dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen information.

Yeah, I’m sure Kobach and Blackwell are going to make excellent use of that information. They’re both such stand up guys.
//

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:54:56pm

re: #22 Dave In Austin

Yep. World record Icelandic Salmon a few years ago. Man can throw a fly as well…

If I catch a fly and then throw it, it usually flies off.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:55:40pm

The nerve of some people.

Facebook Post

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:57:50pm

re: #25 teleskiguy

The nerve of some people.

[Embedded content]

Thor’s Hammer…..

Don’t you have somewhere to be? Like for tomorrow?

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sagehen  Jun 29, 2017 • 10:59:33pm

As Climate Changes, Southern
States Will Suffer More Than Others

nytimes.com

In all, the researchers estimate that the nation could face damages worth 0.7 percent of gross domestic product per year by the 2080s for every 1 degree Fahrenheit rise in global temperature. But that overall number obscures wide variations: The worst-hit counties — mainly in states that already have warm climates, like Arizona or Texas — could see losses worth 10 to 20 percent of G.D.P. or more if emissions continue to rise unchecked.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:01:22pm

re: #26 Dave In Austin

Don’t you have somewhere to be? Like for tomorrow?

Driving to Red Rocks tomorrow afternoon!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:01:36pm

From that NRA advert:

“They use their media to assassinate real news. They use their schools to teach children that their president is another Hitler. They use their movie stars and singers and comedy shows and award shows to repeat their narrative over and over again. And then they use their ex-president to endorse “the resistance.”

You know, if they took out the phrase “another Hitler” and substituted a word like “evil,” that would be a propaganda statement that would make any authoritarian proud.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:03:34pm

Tomorrow will be the 10th time I’ve seen Umphrey’s McGee at Red Rocks.

I’m such a fuckin’ wook hippy.

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Kragar  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:03:55pm

Correction: Trump Doesn’t Seem to Know Anything

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:05:36pm
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freetoken  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:07:04pm

re: #27 sagehen

The research article is here:
science.sciencemag.org

I will note that the graphic in the NYT article is based on a high emissions scenario, one which I’ve asserted before is unlikely to play out.

Not because of forethought and care, but simple economics. A great deal of the carbon resources left in future decades will be very low quality or hard to produce, thus non-carbon sources like wind and solar will continue to increase in desirability.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:23:44pm

re: #33 freetoken

The research article is here:
science.sciencemag.org

I will note that the graphic in the NYT article is based on a high emissions scenario, one which I’ve asserted before is unlikely to play out.

Not because of forethought and care, but simple economics. A great deal of the carbon resources left in future decades will be very low quality or hard to produce, thus non-carbon sources like wind and solar will continue to increase in desirability.

Unless you get rodent copulation like Montana just did.

It turns out Montana’s utility commissioners were caught planning a scheme to subvert Federal laws promoting wind and solar energy in favour of coal and gas.

Montana Utility Commission Gonna Put Stupid Sun Out of Business (goes to Wonkette, with YouTube video of the commissioners’ meeting)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:24:48pm

I wonder if Kobachs Commission could sue the states and force them to turn over the info?

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:28:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:32:19pm

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if Kobachs Commission could sue the states and force them to turn over the info?

Well, they could sue, but I doubt it would get anywhere other than to cost bunches of money for both states and the Federal government (so they don’t have to pay for things like Medicaid, bridges, &c).

The Federal government has no authority over state voter roles. None. For the courts to find that authority where no law nor Constitutional clause exists would be remarkable.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:48:39pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t recall putting my military history down on my voter registration application, and my records were released to Florida anyway (I got out of the Navy in Jacksonville).

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t recall putting my military status on a voter registration form either.

If you registered to vote in Florida while still on active duty all I can say is that question is currently on the form.

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Kragar  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:49:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:51:28pm

bbc.com

Man hit by a bus in Reading, England (video). Gets up, brushes himself off, and sat down in front a pub for a beer. He apparently only had scratches and bruises. (The pub was not yet open.)

The bus threw him several yards, and then careened into a storefront.

washingtonpost.com

(The Post has more details than the BBC.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:53:29pm

I’ll bet y’all want to know what I look like (hah! I’m dreaming…)

Well, I took a selfie today.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:56:23pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

If you registered to vote in Florida while still on active duty all I can say is that question is currently on the form.

Hmm. When I was in Florida I only got the Federal absentee form. I never filled out the Florida form.

The current Nebraska form has no such question.

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Kragar  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:57:06pm

re: #40 Anymouse 🌹

bbc.com

Man hit by a bus in Reading, England (video). Gets up, brushes himself off, and sat down in front a pub for a beer. He apparently only had scratches and bruises. (The pub was not yet open.)

The bus threw him several yards, and then careened into a storefront.

washingtonpost.com

(The Post has more details than the BBC.

Once in 29 Palms, a Marine parked a van on a hill, and went to use the head. While he was away, the van rolled down hill a 1/4 mile and hit the tent I was sleeping in. Luckily, I was a sleep, in my sleeping back, on a cot, so I got hit by the front grill and wasn’t crushed by the tires. I got launched about 40ft, woke up wondering WTF happened as MPs were rushing to the scene. They told me to get back to my tent, when I told them “That was my tent.” Ended up with the whole left side of my body being one big bruise for about a week.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2017 • 11:59:18pm

re: #43 Kragar

Once in 29 Palms, a Marine parked a van on a hill, and went to use the head. While he was away, the van rolled down hill a 1/4 mile and hit the tent I was sleeping in. Luckily, I was a sleep, in my sleeping back, on a cot, so I got hit by the front grill and wasn’t crushed by the tires. I got launched about 40ft, woke up wondering WTF happened as MPs were rushing to the scene. They told me to get back to my tent, when I told them “That was my tent.” Ended up with the whole left side of my body being one big bruise for about a week.

Ouch. The only time I was hit by a vehicle was my fault (I ran over my own foot with my own van - that took work)

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:02:32am

re: #41 teleskiguy

I’ll bet y’all want to know what I look like (hah! I’m dreaming…)

Well, I took a selfie today.

[Embedded content]

Cousin It!

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:07:22am

re: #45 Single-handed sailor

Cousin It!

My voice isn’t near as high pitched as Cousin It’s. But I’ve been able to do a spot on ‘Cousin It’ with my hair for a long time, provided my hair is long enough. I’ve been known to chop it all in an instant.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:07:59am

re: #43 Kragar

Once in 29 Palms, a Marine parked a van on a hill, and went to use the head. While he was away, the van rolled down hill a 1/4 mile and hit the tent I was sleeping in. Luckily, I was a sleep, in my sleeping back, on a cot, so I got hit by the front grill and wasn’t crushed by the tires. I got launched about 40ft, woke up wondering WTF happened as MPs were rushing to the scene. They told me to get back to my tent, when I told them “That was my tent.” Ended up with the whole left side of my body being one big bruise for about a week.

This doesn’t surprise me only because I’m convinced that 29 Palms is a hellhole magically cursed by the ancients.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:11:11am

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

This doesn’t surprise me only because I’m convinced that 29 Palms is a hellhole magically cursed by the ancients.

Isn’t that near the Hellmouth?

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Kragar  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:11:38am

re: #44 Anymouse 🌹

Lets see, once I laid a bike down puttering in the drive way, wearing shorts, so the exhaust pipe was pressing on my leg for a good 20 seconds.

There was the 29 Palms incident.

I got rear ended because I stopped for a yellow while the guy behind me thought he could keep going.

A buddy once hit some ice and a fence post ended up going thru the front window, missing me by about 6 inches.

Another time, I had missed having my right arm crushed between two cars when we got side swiped by a drunk driver.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:11:54am

This video is just a ridiculous awkward mess. Normally this level of raw embarrassment for another human being would kick me into anaphylactic shock but somehow it’s so bad it wraps around the other side and becomes hilarious.

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teleskiguy  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:15:34am

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

This doesn’t surprise me only because I’m convinced that 29 Palms is a hellhole magically cursed by the ancients.

I’m good friends with an Iraq War veteran whom I met in my second stint of college in Gunnison, CO. He was attending on a GI Bill scholarship, majoring in art. He told me about Twentynine Palms. His question about the military installation there I still remember him asking me: “Why the fuck are humans in this place? It is a mouth of hell.”

I took said friend to an Umphrey’s McGee show at Red Rocks six years ago and he *illegally* climbed the rock we were parked next to, hundreds of feet above the road, in skate shoes. He got away with that, somehow. He’s in New Zealand right now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:21:03am

Syrian doctor hit by Trump’s Muslim travel ban decamps to Canada instead.
theguardian.com

(More at The Guardian)

He was one of the many whose lives were thrown into chaos by Donald Trump’s travel ban - a Syrian doctor who works with the United Nations and was pursuing an Ivy League education in the United States.

But after months of living in limbo, Khaled Almilaji has put a definitive end to the uncertainty - by moving to Canada.

Almilaji, 35, arrived in Toronto earlier this month, days before the US supreme court paved the way for a limited version of the travel ban, which targets seven Muslim-majority countries, to be implemented. It is due to take effect on Thursday at 8pm ET.

While he might have been able to get student visa under the scaled-back ban, Almilaji said Canada was a safer bet that would allow him to continue to travel to Turkey to carry out humanitarian work.

“This chance to be in Canada, it will allow me to improve my knowledge and keep working for my country - Syria - by going back and forth to Turkey,” he said.

In 2016, Almilaji and his wife, physician Jehan Mouhsen, moved to Rhode Island so that he could pursue a postgraduate degree in public health at Brown University. In January, when Trump’s first attempt at a travel ban went into effect, Almilaji - a renowned doctor who in 2013 risked his life to deliver vaccines to 1.4 million Syrian children to curtail a polio outbreak in a rebel-held area - was on a short aid mission in Turkey.

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Kragar  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:24:20am

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

You’re not wrong

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Kragar  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:25:19am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:25:39am

re: #49 Kragar

Lets see, once I laid a bike down puttering in the drive way, wearing shorts, so the exhaust pipe was pressing on my leg for a good 20 seconds.

There was the 29 Palms incident.

I got rear ended because I stopped for a yellow while the guy behind me thought he could keep going.

A buddy once hit some ice and a fence post ended up going thru the front window, missing me by about 6 inches.

Another time, I had missed having my right arm crushed between two cars when we got side swiped by a drunk driver.

Yikes. I got hit once when a fellow in Virginia Beach made a U-turn in front of me and t-boned my Vega.

I hit someone on Christmas Eve with my Nissan after running a yield sign (my foot was entangled in the brake pedal mechanism). The National Police didn’t want to deal with it and declared it “no fault,” though my car insurance company (AIG) paid the other owner in full. His was a brand new car only two weeks old and I totalled it going about 4 mph. My car was undamaged. (Remind me not to buy a Ford Festiva.)

Hit a deer here with my Smart (totalled the deer, no damage to my car) at 60 mph.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:25:59am

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹

Syrian doctor hit by Trump’s Muslim travel ban decamps to Canada instead.
theguardian.com

(More at The Guardian)

ah yes, let’s discuss the benefits of people coming over from failed nations…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:27:20am

re: #54 Kragar

German lawmakers vote to legalize same-sex marriage, days after Chancellor Merkel softened her stance on the issue

There is a practical side to this: Angela will most likely need a coalition partner after the upcoming elections and all the potential parties have all made it clear that gay marriage is a condition for support.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:29:36am

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹

That Nissan Sentra-Ford Festiva wreck was in Spain.

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Kragar  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:34:49am

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹

Worst injury I ever got was in kindergarten. Good ole fashioned jungle gym over asphalt. Fell off landed on my head, and the teachers thought a nap would make me all better. I didn’t recognize my parents when they picked me up. Ended up having a skull fracture.

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freetoken  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:41:38am

re: #39 Kragar

Looked for some Japanese news about anything unusual, and didn’t find anything.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:43:19am

re: #59 Kragar

Worst injury I ever got was in kindergarten. Good ole fashioned jungle gym over asphalt. Fell off landed on my head, and the teachers thought a nap would make me all better. I didn’t recognize my parents when they picked me up. Ended up having a skull fracture.

I fell of my bike as a kid crossing a steep bridge between Gary and Hammond, Indiana…had like thirteen bumps and bruises on my head and nothing on the rest of my body…I was wandering about in a daze, fortunately, my older brother was driving by and gave me a lift home…I recall nothing of it until I came to in the back seat of his car…

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Kragar  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:44:15am

re: #60 freetoken

Looked for some Japanese news about anything unusual, and didn’t find anything.

Still looking around.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:44:30am

talkingpointsmemo.com

Rep. Barbara Lee’s amendment to sunset the Authorisation for the Use of Military Force adopted after 9/11 was adopted with only one dissenting vote (Kay Granger, R-Tex). It now becomes part of the Defense Appropriation Bill.

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sagehen  Jun 30, 2017 • 12:50:59am

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹

Well, they could sue, but I doubt it would get anywhere other than to cost bunches of money for both states and the Federal government (so they don’t have to pay for things like Medicaid, bridges, &c).

The Federal government has no authority over state voter roles. None. For the courts to find that authority where no law nor Constitutional clause exists would be remarkable.

NITPICK ALERT: it’s voter rolls.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 30, 2017 • 1:00:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 1:03:39am

re: #65 goddamnedfrank

Mitch McConnell is scientifically fucked rn. Anything he does to appease GOP Senate moderates turns off the hyper-conservative gang of four.

make him try to fight two fires at once with one hose.

it will take major donors contacting GOP senators directly and threatening to withdraw support to get them to budge.

I am sure that is why he delayed voting.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 1:05:23am

re: #62 Kragar

Still looking around.

Well, there’s this:

I Want to Be a Shop Idol (goes to NHK)

Fashion shop staff can achieve celebrity status in Japan! We’ll find out why they are so popular. And we get to meet the most popular of them now, Yutaro!
Also, our Kawaii Reporter will report from Maryland in the US! [UTC]
April 7, Fri. 0:30 / 6:30 / 13:30 / 18:30

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 30, 2017 • 1:06:42am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 1:09:02am

re: #64 sagehen

NITPICK ALERT: it’s voter rolls.

Well, perhaps the voters are Thespians.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 1:16:01am

Donald Trump to travel to Poland to embarrass the USA there next month.
President Trump to Visit Poland (Goes to Radio Poland in English, with an audio interview)

In an exclusive interview for Radio Poland, the head of Polish President Andrzej Duda’s chancellery Krzysztof Szczerski said: “The partnership between the US and Poland is a real one; it is not built on emotions. The Polish Army stands together with the US Army on Polish soil securing the eastern flank of NATO.”

I wonder how much Trump is going to ask Poland to “pay up” for its NATO obligation in protection money?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 1:16:11am

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

I really do feel as a country we lost something when the Greatest Generation started leaving us in droves. Decency & perspective.

I remember them well, they weren’t that great or decent tbh.

They have been idealized a bit, but despite certain issues with women, gays and minorities, they also stand for a time when the nation as a whole understood a lot more about solidarity and promoting the common good and not just about the politics of favoring the elites.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 30, 2017 • 1:22:08am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They have been idealized a bit, but despite certain issues with women, gays and minorities, they also stand for a time when the nation as a whole understood a lot more about solidarity and promoting the common good and not just about the politics of favoring the elites.

I feel like they were a progressing but still deeply bigoted people that FDR managed to trick into doing something amazing. It probably also helps to realize that much of what they accomplished, socially and scientifically, was done in the presence of historically unique unifying existential threats. Once the Cold War ended that factor basically disappeared, to a degree we’ve tried to resurrect it with terrorism but the cultural & religious ramifications of that effort have backfired badly.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 1:22:26am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They have been idealized a bit, but despite certain issues with women, gays and minorities, they also stand for a time when the nation as a whole understood a lot more about solidarity and promoting the common good and not just about the politics of favoring the elites.

It is my Greatest Generation grandparents (and my Silent Generation parents) that inculcated liberal values in my family.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 30, 2017 • 1:23:34am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 1:25:00am

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹

It is my Greatest Generation grandparents (and my Silent Generation parents) that inculcated liberal values in my family.

The only thing that will save us from GOP Trumpism is a return to those values, but in a way that includes people who were originally shutout of the New Deal

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Kragar  Jun 30, 2017 • 1:32:15am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 1:32:41am

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The only thing that will save us from GOP Trumpism is a return to those values, but in a way that includes people who were originally shutout of the New Deal

As I understand it, the folk who were shut out of the New Deal originally were minority segments of the populace. While not completely, they largely support the Democratic Party now. (Which is why the GOP is working so hard on securing the vote voter suppression.)

We can’t win every election, but we can sure as heck get as many people out to vote (and see folk are registered) as possible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 1:47:03am

re: #76 Kragar

My lifelong dream is to someday play the guy who says “There’s no rule that says a dog CAN’T play [insert sport]!” in an AIR BUD movie.

We invented a keepaway game involving our friends dog…standing in a circle kicking ball back and forth…last team to touch the ball before Blossom got it lost one point

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 30, 2017 • 2:02:40am

The NRA version of “cut the tall trees.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 2:03:37am

re: #79 DodgerFan1988

The NRA just released an ad that is part authoritarian, part incitement to violence, part call for a civil war. This cannot be our politics.

This is simply an advertisement to sell more weapons to white people. Viewed as such, it is terrifyingly effective.

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Kragar  Jun 30, 2017 • 2:03:46am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 2:10:11am

Water tower blues:

The iron company will finish their repairs today. After that they will disinfect the tower, and their work at that point is complete.

Then we have to fill the tower, drain it, fill it again, and take a water sample test for chlorine and coliform bacteria.

Problem is the lab is closed until next Wednesday so we can’t get the tests until then (so we’ll rinse the water tower out a few times until Wednesday).

I’m stuck with a car that has a broken windscreen so driving the samples to the lab is a problem until I get it fixed.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 2:12:16am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹

Water tower blues:

The iron company will finish their repairs today. After that they will disinfect the tower, and their work at that point is complete.

Then we have to fill the tower, drain it, fill it again, and take a water sample test for chlorine and coliform bacteria.

Problem is the lab is closed until next Wednesday so we can’t get the tests until then (so we’ll rinse the water tower out a few times until Wednesday).

I’m stuck with a car that has a broken windscreen so driving the samples to the lab is a problem until I get it fixed.

Probably not a lot of shops with a windshield for a Smart Car in the area? :)

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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2017 • 2:21:31am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is simply an advertisement to sell more weapons to white people. Viewed as such, it is terrifyingly effective.

Ding ding ding. Don’t forget that shooting back at these nuts makes them need their brown pants even faster because they know only conservatives haz gunz.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 2:34:19am

re: #83 Timothy Watson

Probably not a lot of shops with a windshield for a Smart Car in the area? :)

The Smart dealer in Denver.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 2:37:30am

re: #84 William Lewis

Ding ding ding. Don’t forget that shooting back at these nuts makes them need their brown pants even faster because they know only conservatives haz gunz.

As I mentioned about this advert in the previous thread, if the goal here is to whip up liberals into buying guns, the solution for liberals is “reuse” (buy one from someone else rather than a new one - that doesn’t support the NRA’s donor companies).

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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2017 • 2:52:58am

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹

This is the NRA, not Madison Ave. Nope, the ad is aimed square at Bubba and the fear of horses of dark skinned liberals pouring out of the big cities like the mongols across Asia.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 2:56:50am

re: #87 William Lewis

This is the NRA, not Madison Ave. Nope, the ad is aimed square at Bubba and the fear of horses of dark skinned liberals pouring out of the big cities like the mongols across Asia.

Well, the ad seems to be on YouTube, so no one here besides me will see it.

(That and there are more guns in this town than people. I’m not sure who they’d sell them to anyway.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:04:18am

The idea has been floated in the past that liberals should join the NRA for voting rights in the organisation (to change its direction). That won’t work.

msnbc.com
Introducing the NRA’s Kingmakers (article from 2013)

The NRA board appoints a shadowy committee to handpick almost every candidate appearing on the ballot annually. The Nominating Committee members for this year’s NRA board elections include highly-connected Republican leaders, along with figures connected to the nation’s largest conservative lobbying group, gun manufacturers, and even the New York State Police, reporting and internal documents obtained by msnbc show.

The NRA board appointed nine individuals, including six board members and three people from outside the NRA, to the 2013 Nominating Committee last summer—before Mitt Romney’s loss in the presidential race and December’s Newtown, Connecticut Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

But few NRA members—less than 7%—even take the time to vote. “I don’t bother anymore,” posted an NRA member in California, under the screen name HunterJim, “the insiders have set this system up so no outsider is going to be elected.”

(More at MSNBC)

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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:07:53am

They changed the rules after the coup of 77 when the far right took over the NRA. They set it up so no one could do the same to them. Give your time and money to the Liberal Gun Club’s PAC instead.

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sagehen  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:09:21am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹

The NRA board appoints a shadowy committee to handpick almost every candidate appearing on the ballot annually

So… kind of like Iran?

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fern01  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:10:26am

All the attacks on Hillary and the media ignored it - supported it - and laughed at it - as did the senior republicans and even some democrats didn’t want to come out against it.

Now there is outrage because he attacked Mica. I am always pleased when there is outrage against trump - but he has done this to woman after woman after woman - and then he does it to someone in the media - so he is suddenly not worthy of the office.

He was NEVER worthy of the office. He was always a pig in relation to his interaction with women. Why is the media now deciding to come after him for it. They sacked Billy bush, but excused trump.

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fern01  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:12:44am

Dear heavens - all the Morning Joe people are saying how strong and wonderful is Mica - why did they not give this support to Hillary Clinton - whose strength and commitment leave Mica so far behind.

Who has done more for women - who has worked for and earned the respect of women throughout the world. No-one outside of the group of political commentators and their followers know who Mica is. The world saw Donald Trump call out Hillary for so many wrong doings, attack her at every turn & the US media did NOTHING. But when it is one of them … suddenly it is important.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:15:37am

re: #93 fern01

Dear heavens - all the Morning Joe people are saying how strong and wonderful is Mica - why did they not give this support to Hillary Clinton - whose strength and commitment leave Mica so far behind.

Mika Brezynski is a conservative, and Hillary Clinton is not.

Moreover, Joe Scarborough is coming under attack for being a “crypto-liberal” or some such tommyrot for objecting to how Trump treated Bryzinski.

I wonder if Mr. Scarborough is regretting all that free time he gave to Trump to call it in to his show? Trump’s done with him now, so under the bus he goes.

Hey Joe:
areyousorryyet.com

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sagehen  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:15:56am

Joe and Mika have an op-ed in WaPo this morning; they’ll be on air to discuss at 7am EDT

Donald Trump is not well

washingtonpost.com

President Trump launched personal attacks against us Thursday, but our concerns about his unmoored behavior go far beyond the personal. America’s leaders and allies are asking themselves yet again whether this man is fit to be president. We have our doubts, but we are both certain that the man is not mentally equipped to continue watching our show, “Morning Joe.”

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fern01  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:16:49am

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹

Mika Brezynski is a conservative, and Hillary Clinton is not.

Moreover, Joe Scarborough is coming under attack for being a “crypto-liberal” or some such tommyrot for objecting to how Trump treated Bryzinski.

I wonder if Mr. Scarborough is regretting all that free time he gave to Trump to call it in to his show? Trump’s done with him now, so under the bus he goes.

Hey Joe:
areyousorryyet.com

It’s not because she is a conservative - and in fact Mica was always on the show as the democrat to Joe’s republican. It is because she is a MEDIA person. Suddenly they care about their own.

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fern01  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:19:35am

Trump is his own worst enemy - if he chose those he attacked wisely, there would not be any push back. Picking on media personalities could bring him closer to the brink than starting WWIII or colluding with the Russians.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:22:50am

re: #96 fern01

It’s not because she is a conservative - and in fact Mica was always on the show as the democrat to Joe’s republican. It is because she is a MEDIA person. Suddenly they care about their own.

Like that fellow that went after Sarah Huckabee in her recent prevarication in the press room?

Oh, they care about their own when they are important enough.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:50:23am

It’s awake and tweeting.

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Kragar  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:51:16am

re: #99 Bubblehead II

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Kragar  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:52:07am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:54:04am

nbcnews.com

ISIS loses 80% of its revenue.

LONDON — ISIS has seen its income drop by 80 percent in two years as it loses territory and the oil and tax revenue that comes with it, according to a study of its finances.

The self-declared caliphate has seen average monthly income plunge from $81 million in the second quarter of 2015 to just $16 million in the same period this year, according to IHS Markit, a global data monitoring company.

The report came as Iraq declared victory over the terror group in Iraq after government forces recaptured a key mosque in the former ISIS stronghold of Mosul on Thursday.

(more at NBC)

Hitting Daesh in the wallet will finish them off, not some general “war” against what is essentially a criminal organisation (albeit a well-organised one - sort of like a Middle Eastern mafia with bigger guns)

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 3:58:40am

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

Like that fellow that went after Sarah Huckabee in her recent prevarication in the press room?

Oh, they care about their own when they are important enough.

That might explain why very few defended Megyn Kelly with Trump’s misogynist attack on her. That, and she was on Fox at the time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:00:30am

Why Twitter Won’t Kick Trump Off Its Service
money.cnn.com

“I’m sure the Twitter team loathes how the product is being used by Trump,” says one former Twitter executive, who spoke on condition of anonymity. But “if they suspend his account, they’ll have to do this consistently with other harassment accounts, which is impossible.”

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:04:19am

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹

DudeBro Libertarianism fails everywhere it’s tried out.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:13:42am

In reference to Trump’s attack on Mika Bryzinski:

Susan Collins: “this [Trump’s tweets] has to stop”.
John McCain: “This is not presidential”
Ben Sasse: “This isn’t normal and it’s beneath the dignity of your office,”
Lisa Murkowski: “Stop it!”
Lindsay Graham: “your tweet was beneath the office”

They are all very concerned… .

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:16:10am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹

In reference to Trump’s attack on Mika Bryzinski:

They are all very concerned… .

He’ll do it again and they’ll have the same reaction.

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fern01  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:28:33am

re: #103 Myron Falwell

That might explain why very few defended Megyn Kelly with Trump’s misogynist attack on her. That, and she was on Fox at the time.

The push back from 99% of the people at Fox was massive. With Mika - no-one at MSNBC is defending trump - they are all with Mika - men and women. Joe ranted this am about Trump attacking women - will the penny ever drop that he was exactly the same way with Hillary Clinton?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:28:56am

The National Review finds an acorn …

nationalreview.com

Why Donald Trump’s Vengeful Tweeting Matters

It’s a sad symbol of our times that one feels compelled to actually make an argument why the president is wrong here. The pitiful reality is that there are people who feel like the man who sits in the seat once occupied by George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Dwight Eisenhower, and Ronald Reagan should use his bully pulpit for schoolyard insults and vicious personal attacks. But this is what we’re reduced to. So, here goes.

First, it is simply and clearly morally wrong to attack another person like this. I’m tired of hearing people say things like, “This is not normal.” Normality isn’t the concern here. Morality is. It doesn’t matter if Mika has been “mean” to Trump. Nor does it matter that we can point to any number of angry personal attacks on Trump from others. We have to get past the idea that another person’s bad acts somehow justify “our” side’s misconduct. Morality is not so situational. Trump is under a moral obligation to treat others the way he’d like to be treated, to love his neighbor as he would love himself. Yes, he can engage in ideological and political battles, but to attack another person in such vicious terms is to cross a bright line.

(More at The National Review)

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fern01  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:30:23am

Not sure if this will be the tweet I want but if it is - near perfect in describing Trump

Edit: got it in one!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:31:52am

re: #87 William Lewis

This is the NRA, not Madison Ave. Nope, the ad is aimed square at Bubba and the fear of horses of dark skinned liberals pouring out of the big cities like the mongols across Asia.

Just wait for the next Katrina-scale natural disaster or major terrorist attack that disrupts public services across a large area or for a large population and prompts the government to declare martial law and call out the troops…

Things are going to start looking like Somalia quickly with hordes of Sovereign Citizen 3%ers out in their pickups shooting up anyone & anything that looks suspicious to them

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Dave In Austin  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:32:03am

Donny is playing the heavy.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:35:07am

re: #96 fern01

It’s not because she is a conservative - and in fact Mica was always on the show as the democrat to Joe’s republican. It is because she is a MEDIA person. Suddenly they care about their own.

This is totally the reason.

Back in the ’90s and ’00s, there was a lot of street crime (muggings, assaults, etc.) in Washington, D.C. The local media couldn’t be bothered to report on it.

But then a couple local reporters got mugged and it’s was a story for weeks about the ‘raging street crime epidemic’ and how traumatizing it was to be a victim, etc., etc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:37:14am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹

In reference to Trump’s attack on Mika Bryzinski:

Susan Collins: “this [Trump’s tweets] has to stop”.
John McCain: “This is not presidential”
Ben Sasse: “This isn’t normal and it’s beneath the dignity of your office,”
Lisa Murkowski: “Stop it!”
Lindsay Graham: “your tweet was beneath the office”

They are all very concerned… .

“Is this going to affect your support for Trump and his policies?”

-“Er, no, we are just trying to maintain some appearance of human decency.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:37:20am

re: #113 Timothy Watson

This is totally the reason.

Back in the ’90s and ’00s, there was a lot of street crime (muggings, assaults, etc.) in Washington, D.C. The local media couldn’t be bothered to report on it.

But then a couple local reporters got mugged and it’s was a story for weeks about the ‘raging street crime epidemic’ and how traumatizing it was to be a victim, etc., etc.

Kind of like the R’s in Congress suddenly cared about gun violence after they got shot at.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:39:30am

re: #115 HappyWarrior

Kind of like the R’s in Congress suddenly cared about gun violence after they got shot at.

Or Michelle Malkin being for medical marijuana because it helps her daughter’s epilepsy (I think her dad also had glaucoma and using marijuana too).

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:41:10am

re: #116 Timothy Watson

Or Michelle Malkin being for medical marijuana because it helps her daughter’s epilepsy (I think her dad also had glaucoma and using marijuana too).

We could do this all day but yes.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:41:44am

re: #99 Bubblehead II

It’s awake and tweeting.

[Embedded content]

Has any President ever had such an uncoordinated relationship with his own party in Congress?

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Kragar  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:42:18am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:45:27am

56 degrees F right now. Someone turned off summer. Today’s high 78. Slight chance of rain and thunderstorms.

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Kragar  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:46:11am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:47:15am

BWAHAHAA

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:48:18am

re: #115 HappyWarrior

Kind of like the R’s in Congress suddenly cared about gun violence after they got shot at.

Not enough to do anything I’ll bet. The first Republican that tries to advance legislation would be primaried by the NRA’s preferred replacement.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:50:41am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHAA

[Embedded content]

Your guy deals in toxicity and his fans love him for it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:51:08am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

Not enough to do anything I’ll bet. The first Republican that tries to advance legislation would be primaried by the NRA’s preferred replacement.

True that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 4:52:53am

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹

56 degrees F right now. Someone turned off summer. Today’s high 78. Slight chance of rain and thunderstorms.

same thing happened here in Germany, I guess Berlin and Warsaw got socked with major thunderstorms and flooding…

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:04:32am

The similarities to the Presidential electoral voting map aren’t by accident.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:08:44am

Watchdog group accuses UN Ambassador Nikki Haley of illegally endorsing a candidate for office.
huffingtonpost.com

Haley retweeted President Donald Trump’s Twitter post endorsing GOP candidate Ralph Norman, who was running in a June 20 special election to represent the 5th District of South Carolina, which he went on to win.

(more at the link)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:11:50am

Two killed, four injured in mishap at a Florida coal-fired power plant.
huffingtonpost.com

They were covered in slag, which reaches 1,000 degrees F.

The injured are categorised with “very severe” injuries.

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Weaselone  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:14:08am

re: #127 goddamnedfrank

The similarities to the Presidential electoral voting map aren’t by accident.

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It’s not really that similar. It seems to trend most closely with whether the Medicaid expansion was accepted.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:15:52am

re: #39 Kragar

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There is nothing unusual about that level of activity at all, since there are hundreds THOUSANDS of military aircraft stationed in Japan and Korea. The C-12U is an ordinary staff transport, the KC-767s are Japanese rather than US or ROK aircraft. They and the KC-135s are likely to be airborne if there are fighters airborne on exercise and there are hundreds of fighters flying on such exercises literally every day somewhere in the theater. Combat Talon, a special ops C-130, is stationed permanently in that area.
(edit: corrected to reflect true numbers)

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Kragar  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:17:43am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:19:03am

re: #132 Kragar

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He’s such a creepy bastard.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:20:36am

I’m waiting for him to have a Sideshow Bob where he admits everything.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:20:42am

re: #130 Weaselone

It’s not really that similar. It seems to trend most closely with whether the Medicaid expansion was accepted.

which is related to whether they were pro-GOP or pro-Democrat

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covfefe  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:24:06am

If you’re ok with a centralized database of personal/voting info of every US citizen, then you’d have no problem with a central database of all gun owners, right? Both voting and gun ownership are constitutional rights.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:26:58am

re: #121 Kragar

Wayne LaPierre’s gone full Richard Spencer and has completed the NRA’s transformation into the next generation of the SS.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:27:54am

re: #137 Myron Falwell

Wayne LaPierre’s gone full Richard Spencer and has completed the NRA’s transformation into the next generation of the SS.

they are just focusing on their “target audience”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:28:25am

re: #136 covfefe

If you’re ok with a centralized database of personal/voting info of every US citizen, then you’d have no problem with a central database of all gun owners, right? Both voting and gun ownership are constitutional rights.

and both can be confiscated

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:29:59am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹

I’m stuck with a car that has a broken windscreen so driving the samples to the lab is a problem until I get it fixed.

I had a broken windshield and called my insurance company because I thought I had glass coverage. Well, I didn’t, but they did schedule the repair, and I did get the rate that the insurance company pays, which was pretty cheap. Call your insurance company and act dumb :)

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sagehen  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:31:02am

re: #136 covfefe

If you’re ok with a centralized database of personal/voting info of every US citizen, then you’d have no problem with a central database of all gun owners, right? Both voting and gun ownership are constitutional rights.

It would really save Russia a lot of time, rather than having to hack 50 state systems, to data-mine for their troll farms to do targeted advertising next election.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:32:41am

re: #134 HappyWarrior

I’m waiting for him to have a Sideshow Bob where he admits everything.

But not before he first walks into a pile of rakes for an extended period of time.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:34:54am

re: #142 Myron Falwell

But not before he first walks into a pile of rakes for an extended period of time.

Need to get him to sing all the songs from the HMS Pinafore too.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:36:43am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

Need to get him to sing all the songs from the HMS Pinafore too.

“I shall send you to heaven… before I send you to hell!”

Bob Terwilliger was/is a Republican, so it’s a perfect fit.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:39:07am

re: #131 Shiplord Kirel

There is nothing unusual about that level of activity at all, since there are hundreds of military aircraft stationed in Japan and Korea. The C-12U is an ordinary staff transport, the KC-767s are Japanese rather than US or ROK aircraft. They and the KC-135s are likely to be airborne if there are fighters airborne on exercise and there are hundreds of fighters flying on such exercises literally every day somewhere in the theater. Combat Talon, a special ops C-130, is stationed permanently in that area.

Some stats.
The Japanese Air Self Defense Force has 777 aircraft, including 373 fighters.
The Navy Martime Self Defense Force adds another 376 and the Ground Self Defense Force more than 400.
The Republic of Korea forces have 794 aircraft in the air force, about 70 in the ROK Navy, and the ROK Army over 600.
US forces in the area include the entire 7th Air Force (100+ combat aircraft) in Korea itself and the 5th Air Force in Japan with over 200 aircraft. There is also Marine Air Group 12 in Japan with about 60 aircraft.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:41:06am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

Need to get him to sing all the songs from the HMS Pinafore too.

Whom do you love?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:48:34am

re: #144 Myron Falwell

“I shall send you to heaven… before I send you to hell!”

Bob Terwilliger was/is a Republican, so it’s a perfect fit.

Yep

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jun 30, 2017 • 5:52:44am

Sad anniversary.

The Yarnell Hill Fire was a wildfire near Yarnell, Arizona, ignited by lightning on June 28, 2013. On June 30, it overran and killed 19 City of Prescott firefighters, members of the Granite Mountain Hotshots. This event resulted in the highest wildland firefighter death toll in the United States since the 1933 Griffith Park Fire killed 29 firefighters, and the highest death toll from any U.S. wildfire since the 1991 East Bay Hills fire killed 25 people. It is the sixth-deadliest American firefighter disaster overall and the deadliest wildfire ever in Arizona.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:01:28am

re: #136 covfefe

If you’re ok with a centralized database of personal/voting info of every US citizen, then you’d have no problem with a central database of all gun owners, right? Both voting and gun ownership are constitutional rights.

I’m sure the RWNJs would have been thrilled if Obama hired someone who then demanded all their voting info.

Thrilled…

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sagehen  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:05:36am

re: #148 Shiplord Kirel

Sad anniversary.

OMG, I remember that… and half those firefighters were part-timers working for day-rate pay with no bennies. TV stations had to take up a collection to give their widows and kids any financial help.

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lawhawk  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:07:00am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. I’m of the opinion that Seth Myers is the best recap of the political news daily. Better than any of the talking heads on cable or the so called experts or pundits.

He cuts through all the BS and shows Trump and this admin for the bunch of craven cronies they always were.

As for this Morning Joe bullshit, I’ll leave that to others.

I’ll stick to the fact that Trump is now working with new talking points. Gone are the days and tweets where he was talking about repeal and replace occurring at the same time because that’s what Americans need - and that whatever the GOP does will be better than Obamacare.

Today, he and GOPers are running with the notion that they can do a straight repeal and get to replacement some time later.

Yeah, later as in the first of Never.

This craven bunch of stooges thinks that they can lie their way into massive tax cuts and destroying health coverage for millions with no plan that services those millions.

The CBO has previously savaged a straight repeal on fiscal grounds, on the cost to millions losing their health coverage, and throw in a few million jobs lost too in the health care industry. A straight repeal would bring back the days where hospitals went bankrupt thanks to indigent care costs, and that additional costs were passed on to other patients. Those costs have been smoothed thanks to Obamacare, and Obamacare put in motion more transparency in health care costs. All that would disappear.

Again, this would make the rest of nation look more like Texas, which has the highest uninsured rate in the nation, the highest mortality rate for pregnant women, etc.

That’s what the GOP is for.

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William Lewis  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:07:56am

re: #148 Shiplord Kirel

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makeitstop  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:07:58am

So, no further poking the Orange Bear by Joe & Mika?

Step up your game, Scarborough! You probably haven’t even raised his blood pressure at this point!

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jeffreyw  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:11:19am

Imgur
Good morning!

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ObserverArt  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:13:45am

Is it safe to come out???

Has the insanity stopped?

Is the real bad man gone yet?

Sure is going to be an interesting 4th of July where America celebrates…

what are we celebrating?

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:15:12am

re: #43 Kragar

Once in 29 Palms, a Marine parked a van on a hill, and went to use the head. While he was away, the van rolled down hill a 1/4 mile and hit the tent I was sleeping in. Luckily, I was a sleep, in my sleeping back, on a cot, so I got hit by the front grill and wasn’t crushed by the tires. I got launched about 40ft, woke up wondering WTF happened as MPs were rushing to the scene. They told me to get back to my tent, when I told them “That was my tent.” Ended up with the whole left side of my body being one big bruise for about a week.

I was riding out in the cornfields of Illinois one day and came to a stop at an intersection. A girl driving some kind of muscle car barreled right through me and only came to a stop when she went off the road into a cornfield. This was before I ever had clip-in pedals; they were cages. I wasn’t wearing a helmet. I vaguely remember jumping up from my pedals, but I definitely remember the impact and flying through the air. Amazingly, though my head broke her windshield, it only tore off half of one of my eyebrows. Her hood ornament punched a hole through my left shin. Otherwise I was one big bruise. the sheriff calculated her at about 40 mph. She smashed her face up pretty badly. I supposed either of us could have been killed. I think she was messing with her car stereo (before cell phones) and didn’t see me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:19:31am

re: #155 ObserverArt

Is it safe to come out???

Has the insanity stopped?

Is the real bad man gone yet?

Sure is going to be an interesting 4th of July where America celebrates…

what are we celebrating?

That Trump hasn’t gotten us nuked into oblivion yet?

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Teukka  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:19:49am

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹

nbcnews.com

ISIS loses 80% of its revenue.

(more at NBC)

Hitting Daesh in the wallet will finish them off, not some general “war” against what is essentially a criminal organisation (albeit a well-organised one - sort of like a Middle Eastern mafia with bigger guns)

There is a lot in common between organized crime and extremist organizations such as Daesh. I tend more and more see terrorist/extremist organisations such as Daesh as a protection racket (implement these policies and you won’t have “accidents”).

And there is what I call the unholy trinity, namely organized crime, extremism and terrorism. Wherever you find two (sometimes just one) you find the other(s).

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sagehen  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:23:03am

re: #155 ObserverArt

Is it safe to come out??? NO

Has the insanity stopped? NO

Is the real bad man gone yet? NO

Sure is going to be an interesting 4th of July where America celebrates…

what are we celebrating?

That we can still say out loud that he’s 400 pounds of crazy in a 250 pound bag?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:23:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:24:41am

smh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:25:22am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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makeitstop  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:26:09am

re: #155 ObserverArt

what are we celebrating?

I’m celebrating the freedom to plug in, turn up and let it fly.

Starting today, I’ve got ten shows in the next two weeks, with three different bands. Trump can kiss ma ass, I got noise to make over here.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:26:26am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

smh

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If National Enquirer does publish something, I hope that Mika & Joe sue and get to depose Trump.

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covfefe  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:26:53am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:27:58am

Happy Friday! Here at RWC HQ it is our 33rd anniversary. Yup, in 1984 on this day we had an outdoor wedding. Not the most auspicious start. It was 115F. The cake frosting melted into a soup. A certain Uncle bet against our success. Oh and my best mans drunk ex girlfriend drove by the wedding at speed at totaled my fathers parked car as well as the borrowed car she was in.

From back in the day…

YouTube

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:30:45am

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:30:54am

re: #165 covfefe

Ah, wouldn’t be complete without dumbass Heinrich Himmler Clarke and his 100-gallon cowboy hat chiming in.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:32:55am

re: #167 The Vicious Babushka

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:33:47am

re: #163 makeitstop

I’m celebrating the freedom to plug in, turn up and let it fly.

Starting today, I’ve got ten shows in the next two weeks, with three different bands. Trump can kiss ma ass, I got noise to make over here.

Burn a couple for me.

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ObserverArt  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:39:04am

I haven’t read through the thread, so I don’t know if Morning Joe sometimes guest and Trump former friend Donny Deutsch’s comments have been discussed or seen.

I really don’t like Morning Joke, but I had to watch a bit this morning since it was ground zero. Deutsch said he wasn’t an employee of MSNBC so he can, so he will go low. He did. I think some LGF members have been saying much the same.

His comments come about 1:40 into the 4 some minute video.

Hard to believe this is being said about an actual U.S. President. Wow.

Iframe

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:40:19am

Was browsing the Twitter and got a little inspired by the drama…but I have too much work to do to put a solid effort into a tweet thread, so here’s all I managed.

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:41:58am

re: #171 ObserverArt

Joe and Mika put out a WaPo editorial this morning that’s a pretty good read. I didn’t watch their show.

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:42:44am
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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:43:45am

NQ’s got Trump’s back.

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:46:41am
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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:46:58am

Colllude-a-palooza - I like that.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:47:07am

So I’m not the only one who wants to evoke Dennis Green. Good to hear! :)

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:47:44am

Gonna go collude with my dog to see if he wants to chase a stick into the harbor.

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lawhawk  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:49:49am

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Stanley Sea  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:50:38am

re: #178 Myron Falwell

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So I’m not the only one who wants to evoke Dennis Green. Good to hear! :)

I also often have that Denny Green tape in my head! (RIP)

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:51:04am

re: #1 Dave In Austin

Orrin Hatch shames Lil’ Tucker….. Maybe it’s just me but Sen Hatch seems a little confused these days.

Damn, Tucker getting punched in the face by his own side.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:52:09am

re: #182 Sir John Barron

Damn, Tucker getting punched in the face by his own side.

He’s got a very punchable face.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:53:36am

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

Our president’s a psycho loony but we knew that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:54:06am

re: #180 lawhawk

Why do you keep lying about things that are so easily disproven?

Because when proof of his lies is offered, he just shouts “Fake news!” and goes back to lying even more…

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lawhawk  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:56:09am

re: #184 Sir John Barron

He was elected by the GOP precisely because of that. He was slicker and more brazen in the lies, and the other lying GOPers couldn’t keep up.

The media couldn’t keep up either. Voters knew - which is why he lost the popular vote.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:56:14am

re: #165 covfefe

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Don’t you have a job?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:56:39am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

Surely today is the day when President Trump will pivo….

Oh, no, I guess not.

/

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Jay C  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:57:08am

re: #175 darthstar

NQ’s got Trump’s back.

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So do *they* (tho who exactly “they” are is a bit murky) seriously think that hacking up some sleazy hit-piece on Joe and Mika in a minimally-credible tabloid is going to… what?
Make Trump’s asinine tweets look good? Damage Morning Joke’s public image?
SRSLY?

For anyone who says that Donald Trump hasn’t accomplished much in his first few months in office - well, he’s managed one major feat which (for me, anyway!) I thought impossible: make me feel sympathetic towards Joe Scarborough.

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ObserverArt  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:57:49am

It really is a sad state when so many are now saying they think he has changed when anyone that even paid a bit of attention to Trump over his career knew he is what he is.

He covered over it all with money and favor. They all kissed his ass without looking at how grotesque the ass is.

It is time to stop acting like you never knew, it is no longer an excuse, whether you are in denial or too ignorant to have seen it.

You want extreme vetting on foreigners coming into this country and no one vetted this “pig” that is the President of this country.

No one vetted him because you never took any of this serious. Today so many are now so serious. They can go fuck themselves. They failed themselves and this country.

Wanna be real serious now Washington D.C. Start working on removing this fool and his whole administration. Really, they are all pigs.

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:58:17am
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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:58:56am

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Don’t you have a job?

Considering what Clarke thinks his job entails, it’s for the best he wastes time spouting fascist crap.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:59:07am

re: #190 ObserverArt

Some people and pundits just thought his act was charming. Now they see better that it has consequences.

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sagehen  Jun 30, 2017 • 6:59:07am

re: #179 darthstar

Gonna go collude with my dog to see if he wants to chase a stick into the harbor.

We’re gonna want pix.

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:00:19am

re: #189 Jay C

For anyone who says that Donald Trump hasn’t accomplished much in his first few months in office - well, he’s managed one major feat which (for me, anyway!) I thought impossible: make me feel sympathetic towards Joe Scarborough.

I wouldn’t go that far. Scarborough is loving this. He’s getting a ratings boost.

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:00:35am

re: #194 sagehen

We’re gonna want pix.

So noted…it is Friday. BBL.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:01:15am

re: #136 covfefe

If you’re ok with a centralized database of personal/voting info of every US citizen, then you’d have no problem with a central database of all gun owners, right? Both voting and gun ownership are constitutional rights.

No, that’s completely different because

///

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:01:41am

re: #186 lawhawk

He was elected by the GOP precisely because of that. He was slicker and more brazen in the lies, and the other lying GOPers couldn’t keep up.

The media couldn’t keep up either. Voters knew - which is why he lost the popular vote.

He successfully sold himself as the “anti-politician” which magically made him exempt from the consequences of his words and actions - ones which would have sunk any “conventional” candidate.

And now this immunity from consequences has rubbed off on his entire party, which is why they are not likely to turn on him unless it can be irrefutably proven that he colluded with ISIS to eat Christian babies, and even then there would be apologists…

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:02:16am

re: #132 Kragar

This is fine. Everything is fine….

/

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:03:09am

Trump has always been a sleazy bastard.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:03:22am

re: #192 Myron Falwell

Considering what Clarke thinks his job entails, it’s for the best he wastes time spouting fascist crap.

True that.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:03:51am

re: #121 Kragar

You’d think the NRA lost the election and HRC was in the WH and had submitted a proposal to confiscate every gun in the U.S.

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ObserverArt  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:03:54am

re: #193 Sir John Barron

Some people and pundits just thought his act was charming. Now they see better that it has consequences.

As a TV character it can debated if his act is charming. I guess it sold.

For President there was nothing charming about him. How did they miss all that? How did they miss the racism, the bad business deals, the marriage messes, his big fucking mouth? All the stuff important for a President and they thought he was charming, entertaining, fun for laughs and ratings.

They were wrong and they all failed this country and themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:04:06am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He successfully sold himself as the “anti-politician” which magically made him exempt from the consequences of his words and actions - ones which would have sunk any “conventional” candidate.

And now this immunity from consequences has rubbed off on his entire party, which is why they are not likely to turn on him unless it can be irrefutably proven that he colluded with ISIS to eat Christian babies, and even then there would be apologists…

“Well you know Obama colluded with ISIS first.” //

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:05:04am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHAA

Pretty rough thing to say about breitbart.com. Oh wait…

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Dr. Matt  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:05:28am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:05:49am

re: #203 ObserverArt

They loved his whole “politically-incorrect, anti-political elite bit” as long as they were included on his side of it.

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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:06:16am

Here’s my question to Joe and Mika: “How’s that ‘Both Sides’ attitude working for you?” Democrats aren’t attacking you, they’re not insulting Mika’s looks, they’re not calling Joe a “crypto-leftist,” they’re not impugning your integrity or suggesting you’re a pair of hacks, and they’re not suggesting that the media deserves what it gets. Nor are they defending Trump by saying “fight fire with fire,” or saying he can “punch back” at the media, and they’re certainly not suggesting he’s being “bullied” by the press. So why aren’t you little darlings doing what has come naturally to you for years and looking for a “Both Sides” angle to this? Better yet, how will you feel when those people in the pundit class you thought were your friends will go to the editorial pages or to the TV screen and say that what’s happening to you is “just as bad as” some minor thing some Democrat said ages ago?

The Trade Unionists, Communists, and Jews are gone, Joe. It’s just you now.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:06:40am

re: #166 Unshaken Defiance

Happy Friday! Here at RWC HQ it is our 33rd anniversary. Yup, in 1984 on this day we had an outdoor wedding. Not the most auspicious start. It was 115F. The cake frosting melted into a soup. A certain Uncle bet against our success. Oh and my best mans drunk ex girlfriend drove by the wedding at speed at totaled my fathers parked car as well as the borrowed car she was in.

From back in the day…

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Video

Happy Anniversary to you and D_L!!!!

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sagehen  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:08:43am

re: #190 ObserverArt

It really is a sad state when so many are now saying they think he has changed when anyone that even paid a bit of attention to Trump over his career knew he is what he is.

Here’s a reminder of someone who knew him well for 40 years, and tried to warn us:

Watch Michael Bloomberg’s full speech at the 2016 Democratic National Convention

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Stanley Sea  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:09:56am

re: #171 ObserverArt

I haven’t read through the thread, so I don’t know if Morning Joe sometimes guest and Trump former friend Donny Deutsch’s comments have been discussed or seen.

I really don’t like Morning Joke, but I had to watch a bit this morning since it was ground zero. Deutsch said he wasn’t an employee of MSNBC so he can, so he will go low. He did. I think some LGF members have been saying much the same.

His comments come about 1:40 into the 4 some minute video.

Hard to believe this is being said about an actual U.S. President. Wow.

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Video won’t load. Probably my computer. Deutch is an old NYC’er they all know the yam

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Jay C  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:10:33am

re: #203 ObserverArt

For President there was nothing charming about him. How did they miss all that? How did they miss the racism, the bad business deals, the marriage messes, his big fucking mouth? .

Sold as features, not bugs.

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CongoJack  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:11:43am

re: #210 sagehen

I still don’t understand - having watched the RNC and DNC conventions of 2016 - how anyone could have thought that the R’s could run a country. They couldn’t even run a decent convention.

Of course, as mentioned above the ‘both siderism’ issue with the BernieBros booing and catcalling during the Dem convention didn’t help anyone (especially those of us watching and getting pissed at Bernie for just sitting there smiling like a jackass).

2016 still pisses me off everyday I wake up.

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sagehen  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:12:02am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And now this immunity from consequences has rubbed off on his entire party, which is why they are not likely to turn on him unless until it can be irrefutably proven that he colluded with ISIS to eat Christian babies, and even then there would be apologists…

FTFY

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Teukka  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:12:27am

re: #213 CongoJack

I still don’t understand - having watched the RNC and DNC conventions of 2016 - how anyone could have thought that the R’s could run a country. They couldn’t even run a decent convention.

Of course, as mentioned above the ‘both siderism’ issue with the BernieBros booing and catcalling during the Dem convention didn’t help anyone (especially those of us watching and getting pissed at Bernie for just sitting there smiling like a jackass).

2016 still pisses me off everyday I wake up.

And 2017 seems to be asking us to hold its beer. *sighs*

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Stanley Sea  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:13:09am

re: #176 darthstar

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Show the emails Joe.

Seriously, the WH threatened reporters with the National Enquirer.

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BigPapa  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:13:42am

Friday News Dump Watch:

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Teukka  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:15:02am

re: #217 BigPapa

Friday News Dump Watch:

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Am I the only one who gets the feeling that something is about to blow?

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BigPapa  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:16:24am

re: #218 Teukka

Am I the only one who gets the feeling that something is about to blow?

I feel it too. But in Trumpworld, something blows all the time. It’s like Bombshell Fatigue.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:16:44am

re: #218 Teukka

Am I the only one who gets the feeling that something is about to blow?

This is an unusually high level of static and bluster even by DT standards, and as long as we are discussing his outrageous tweets, we are being distracted from the extent to which his people are dismantling democracy in our country…

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:16:48am

re: #218 Teukka

Am I the only one who gets the feeling that something is about to blow?

Something’s been blowing since November 6 June 2015..

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mmmirele  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:16:54am

My brother is getting his shoulder operated on this morning and I’m in the waiting room waiting for it all to be over. At least they have wifi and a place for me to set up my laptop.

Of course, my brother had to tell them he was Homer Simpson at check in.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:17:18am

re: #218 Teukka

Am I the only one who gets the feeling that something is about to blow?

And if nothing ends up happening today, this video is always apt:

No Boom Today…Boom Tomorrow

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:19:49am

re: #223 Timothy Watson

And if nothing ends up happening today, this video is always apt:

Where’s the Kaboom!?

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Stanley Sea  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:20:29am

Happy Anniversary of the day, if not the date (Friday before 4th of July) when Sister Sarah Palin breathlessly quit being governor.

Last minute news conference, gasping incoherent speech.

It was a day I’ll always remember fondly.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:20:50am

re: #195 darthstar

I wouldn’t go that far. Scarborough is loving this. He’s getting a ratings boost.

The Network principal in action.

The end of the movie Network

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:21:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:21:56am

re: #225 Stanley Sea

Happy Anniversary of the day, if not the date (Friday before 4th of July) when Sister Sarah Palin breathlessly quit being governor. was hounded out of office by a hateful liberal press

Which is what they will be saying about Trump one day…

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mmmirele  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:22:02am

Yup, just like I like ‘em.

I asked my brother not to deadhead the roses until I was able to get out there and take some pictures. Yes, I’m weird, but there’s something to be said for the imperfect.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:22:19am

re: #225 Stanley Sea

Happy Anniversary of the day, if not the date (Friday before 4th of July) when Sister Sarah Palin breathlessly quit being governor.

Last minute news conference, gasping incoherent speech.

It was a day I’ll always remember fondly.

That was the day imo she ceased to have any credibility at all. Not that she had much to start with.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:22:39am

re: #227 goddamnedfrank

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Yes.

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Teukka  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:23:02am

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And if this happens, I’m happeh.

Coneheads (8/10) Movie CLIP - Beldar’s Fireworks (1993) HD

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lawhawk  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:23:21am

re: #223 Timothy Watson

Ivanova is always right. Ivanova is god.

Ivanova Is God

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:26:15am

re: #225 Stanley Sea

Happy Anniversary of the day, if not the date (Friday before 4th of July) when Sister Sarah Palin breathlessly quit being governor.

Last minute news conference, gasping incoherent speech.

It was a day I’ll always remember fondly.

And the loons calling loudly out on the lake.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:26:40am

re: #183 Timothy Watson

He’s got a very punchable face.

..and with all that right-wing competition. I’m mean you have your O’keefe clan, then there’s the pharma-bro, just about 90% of anyone ever hosting Fox & Friends, & the Breitbart crew. Holy shit! I think I have an idea for a new arcade game!

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:27:47am

re: #226 Myron Falwell

The Network principal in action.

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Video

Was Network considered absurdist when it was released? I’m way too young to know.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:29:04am

re: #236 Timothy Watson

Was Network considered absurdist when it was released? I’m way too young to know.

No, it was seen as very progressive, ahead of its time and indicative of the reality hidden behind the facades we had all grown to accept.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:30:54am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:32:32am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No, it was seen as very progressive, ahead of its time and indicative of the reality hidden behind the facades we had all grown to accept.

Ah, I was curious what the contemporary interpretation was because it seems so prescient, yet at the same time over the top.

(If I’m even making any sense.) :)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:33:41am

re: #233 lawhawk

Ivanova is always right. Ivanova is god.

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I read that as Ivanka at first and almost had a heart attack.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:33:57am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:36:00am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

This could sting a little.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:36:16am

“We have no fucking idea what to replace this thing with but let’s get rid of it anyway!”

If suggested something like this at my job my boss would slap me silly.

The Yam is clearly desperate for ANY legislative victory at this point.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:37:57am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That entire thread is worth reading.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:38:42am

re: #243 Eclectic Cyborg

“We have no fucking idea what to replace this thing with but let’s get rid of it anyway!”

If suggested something like this at my job my boss would slap me silly.

The Yam is clearly desperate for ANY legislative victory at this point.

He promised “repeal and replace”, He could then claim that he delivered on the first part but “obstructionist Democrats” prevented the second part…and people would buy it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:39:04am

This mendacious piece of shit is capitalizing on Americans’ fundamental lack of scientific training. Red team / blue team is what scientists do every goddamned day. That’s what peer review fucking is.

U.S. EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt is leading a formal initiative to challenge mainstream climate science using a “back-and-forth critique” by government-recruited experts, according to a senior administration official.

The program will use “red team, blue team” exercises to conduct an “at-length evaluation of U.S. climate science,” the official said, referring to a concept developed by the military to identify vulnerabilities in field operations.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:40:10am

re: #243 Eclectic Cyborg

“We have no fucking idea what to replace this thing with but let’s get rid of it anyway!”

If suggested something like this at my job my boss would slap me silly.

The Yam is clearly desperate for ANY legislative victory at this point.

Indicative of the perversion of our politics that one of the states that benefits most from Obamacare has the two senators (and governor) leading the charge to either ruin or completely dump it. And they are safe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:41:33am

re: #246 goddamnedfrank

This mendacious piece of shit is capitalizing on Americans’ fundamental lack of scientific training. Red team / blue team is what scientists do every goddamned day. That’s what peer review fucking is.

We are beginning to see the costs of failing to properly educate the American people…

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:42:05am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No, it was seen as very progressive, ahead of its time and indicative of the reality hidden behind the facades we had all grown to accept.

Also prophetic in that industries like GE and Westinghouse hadn’t directly taken over broadcast networks yet.

Heck, ITT (then still in the telecom business) tried to buy ABC in the late 1960s and that ignited a hellstorm. AT&T wants TimeWarner today, and everyone is all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

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Franklin  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:42:06am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:42:56am

re: #247 Barefoot Grin

I assume you are referring to Texas?

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:45:56am

re: #251 Eclectic Cyborg

I assume you are referring to Texas?

I was assuming Kentucky.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:47:49am

re: #252 Timothy Watson

I was assuming Kentucky.

My guess too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:47:57am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:48:42am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

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This is how a dictator acts.

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Franklin  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:48:44am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:50:09am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

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Another day of fascism in America.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:50:29am

re: #256 Franklin

Caeser Romero laughs weeps.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:51:22am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:51:53am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

Brit Hume, Fox News: OK, but what here is exactly illegal? Cite the law!

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:52:07am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

The National Enquirer is returning to their 1940s fascist roots, I see.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:53:41am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

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I really hope they sue the National Enquirer and get to depose Trump and everyone else in the White House.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:54:24am

re: #259 FormerDirtDart

German parliament votes to legalize same-sex marriage, despite Angela Merkel voting against it

If this seems confusing, then it is parliamentary politics.

Angela knows that she will probably need a coalition partner if she wants to continue to govern after the upcoming elections. All the possible choices made it clear that “marriage for all” was a precondition, and she also did not want it to be come a campaign issue that would strengthen her opponents.

But whatevs, chalk it up as a victory for human rights.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:56:28am

re: #259 FormerDirtDart

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I thought she came out in favor.

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Franklin  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:56:38am
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Jay C  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:57:11am

re: #259 FormerDirtDart

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Anybody know if Germans (in general) give that much of a damn about SSM for it to be a major issue? I can understand Merkel’s vote - if passage were safe enough a deal that her opposition wouldn’t scuttle it - to shore up her right flank: but is there as obsessive a homophobic bloc there as there is here? To make political trouble over it?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:58:02am

re: #266 Jay C

Anybody know if Germans (in general) give that much of a damn about SSM for it to be a major issue? I can understand Merkel’s vote - if passage were safe enough a deal that her opposition wouldn’t scuttle it - to shore up her right flank: but is there as obsessive a homophobic bloc there as there is here? To make political trouble over it?

I think homophobia is pretty big in Bavaria if I’m not mistaken.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:58:09am

re: #262 Timothy Watson

I really hope they sue the National Enquirer and get to depose Trump and everyone else in the White House.

It worked for Peter Theil.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 7:58:57am

Gus is right. We’re at that point.

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Franklin  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:00:13am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:02:51am

BIG BEAUTIFUL CLEAN COAL JOBS!1!!

Kathy Bartlett watched helplessly this spring as Kentucky lawmakers cut back on mine safety inspections and replaced them with coaching sessions on miners’ safety habits.

She knows more than most what’s at stake.

Bartlett’s son, Rickey Thorpe, was crushed to death in a western Kentucky underground mine in 2015 when a coal-digging machine’s 17-ton cutting head — propped up with wooden boards — gave out as he worked underneath it.

Bartlett, who recently visited her son’s grave on what would have been his 31st birthday, says that’s why the state shouldn’t reduce the number of traditional inspections.

richmond.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:04:36am

re: #264 HappyWarrior

I thought she came out in favor.

Angela simply said that her party was allowed to vote their conscience and not the party line. But that is what made it possible for the issue to pass a vote.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:04:58am

re: #271 Timothy Watson

BIG BEAUTIFUL CLEAN COAL JOBS!1!!

richmond.com

I’m very lucky that none of my coal miner relatives died.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:05:25am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Angela simply said that her party was allowed to vote their conscience and not the party line. But that is what made it possible for the issue to pass a vote.

Oh okay. Guess something got lost in translation.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:05:55am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:06:54am

re: #266 Jay C

Anybody know if Germans (in general) give that much of a damn about SSM for it to be a major issue? I can understand Merkel’s vote - if passage were safe enough a deal that her opposition wouldn’t scuttle it - to shore up her right flank: but is there as obsessive a homophobic bloc there as there is here? To make political trouble over it?

They have already had several openly gay politicians in prominent offices: the mayor of Berlin and their Secretary of State in the 90’s, and domestic partnerships are recognized.

And the head of Angela’s Bavarian sister party, the CSU, Horst Seehofer, showed his dedication to traditional family values: by having a wife, two children and yet another child out of wedlock by his mistress/secretary.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:07:24am

re: #275 Dr. Matt

Waiting for Noot Grinch to pop up on Fox and Fiends to inform us that the POTUS cannot be accused of extortion.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:07:49am

re: #275 Dr. Matt

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He needs to go now and his party needs to go down with him. They’ve enabled this asshole.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:09:44am

re: #277 Sir John Barron

Waiting for Noot Grinch to pop up on Fox and Fiends to inform us that the POTUS cannot be accused of extortion.

It’s amazing how low the sycophants will sink to defend this awful, vile so-called president.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:10:16am

I broke my own rule- don’t read the comments. A lot of people rationalizing Trump’s bs.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:10:47am

re: #279 Dr. Matt

It’s amazing how low the sycophants will sink to defend this awful, vile so-called president.

I’m resigned. They’ll defend him for anything at this point.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:11:38am

re: #280 HappyWarrior

I broke my own rule- don’t read the comments. A lot of people rationalizing Trump’s bs.

Of course.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:13:44am

re: #279 Dr. Matt

It’s amazing how low the sycophants will sink to defend this awful, vile so-called president.

Because his immunity to the consequences of his words and actions is rubbing off on them…they are not going to harm their benefactor.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:13:49am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

I’m resigned. They’ll defend him for anything at this point.

He will shoot somebody in cold blood in broad daylight on 5th Avenue before this is over.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:14:32am

re: #275 Dr. Matt

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You know what? There are other media people he’s done this to.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:14:36am

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

He will shoot somebody in cold blood in broad daylight on 5th Avenue before this is over.

“They shouldn’t have criticized him. He has a right to defend himself against elites.”

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Belafon  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:14:48am

re: #283 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because his immunity to the consequences of his words and actions is rubbing off on them…they are not going to harm their benefactor.

Because it’s impossible for these people to admit they were wrong. Their whole worldview comes crashing down if they have to, because it’s built on delusions.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:15:11am

re: #285 Stanley Sea

You know what? There are other media people he’s done this to.

He ain’t nothing but a bully.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:15:27am

re: #284 The Vicious Babushka

He will shoot somebody in cold blood in broad daylight on 5th Avenue before this is over.

and it will be maintained that his victim was a thug and deserved it and that more people died in Benghazi

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:16:14am

re: #285 Stanley Sea

You know what? There are other media people he’s done this to.

Didn’t he threaten CNN and try to force Ana Navarro off the air?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:17:22am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

“They shouldn’t have criticized him. He has a right to defend himself against elites.”

But don’t call them ‘deplorable’ or suggest they amount to a ‘cult.’

//

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:18:07am

re: #291 Sir John Barron

But don’t call them ‘deplorable’ or suggest they amount to a ‘cult.’

//

Yep.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:18:22am

Fucks News thinks that people dying from losing healthcare is TEH HILARIOUS

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:18:47am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:18:52am

re: #291 Sir John Barron

But don’t call them ‘deplorable’ or suggest they amount to a ‘cult.’

//

That just makes them feel stronger…

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Dr. Matt  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:18:55am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

I’m resigned. They’ll defend him for anything at this point.

Trump was correct when he said he could shoot someone and not lose his supporters.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:20:02am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

Fucks News thinks that people dying from losing healthcare is TEH HILARIOUS

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FNC sure knows how to find real winners. Meanwhile they had no problem with BillO likening Dr. Tiller to Mengele or Palin’s death panels lie.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:20:04am

re: #285 Stanley Sea

You know what? There are other media people he’s done this to.

Anyone that he did this to should be documenting this and speaking up. This is nothing short of blackmail.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:20:36am

re: #296 Dr. Matt

Trump was correct when he said he could shoot someone and not lose his supporters.

He’s created a fascist movement in our country.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:23:02am

re: #294 FormerDirtDart

I posted this last night:

Heartwarming story:
South Korean president visits Marine museum to honor Americans who saved his parents

I’m sure Trump will say/do something to ruin the state visit.

Glad to see he’s on his way to another diplomatic crisis with an ally.

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lawhawk  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:23:06am

re: #246 goddamnedfrank

Perry tried the same fucking nonsense. Sen. Franken destroyed Perry then, and should do the same here:

Al Franken BRILLIANTLY DESTROYS Rick Perry On Climate Change Science 6/23/2017

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:24:25am
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makeitstop  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:24:52am

re: #218 Teukka

Am I the only one who gets the feeling that something is about to blow?

The Flynn/hackers story from yesterday was a sizable bombshell.

If something bigger is following it up, it’s gonna be a goddamn bunker-buster.

Bring it, I say.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:25:11am

Read this story. Pretty scary shit. In short, a truck was hauling a 560,000-pound generator and would have crossed 40 bridges to make the delivery. They had to pull over because apparently this heavy of a load is not allowed on US Highways.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:25:43am

re: #302 FormerDirtDart

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:26:07am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

Fucks News thinks that people dying from losing healthcare is TEH HILARIOUS

More ‘fair and balanced’ “news” coverage, I see. Oh, wait, they stopped calling themselves that some time ago, decided the gag had run its course.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:26:50am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

He’s new to this. He doesn’t know you’re not supposed to blackmail people.//

Orange is the new blackmailer?

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lawhawk  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:31:38am

re: #304 Dr. Matt

Burying the lede - RIDOT got curious what was being hauled, pulled it over, and realized it was a 560,000 pound generator that was so far over the weight limits on RI bridges, that they believe it would have caused a collapse of bridges along the route - some of which are known to be structurally deficient.

The mover thought they could haul it because they thought they’d get a permit.

Ummm…. no.

Guess those free market fuckers who think there’s too much regulation think the hauler was okay to do this.

It’s quite likely the RI DOT will be making the hauler disassemble the whole damn thing and take it away piecemeal.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:34:06am

re: #203 ObserverArt

How did they miss that?

Easy! Jesus forgave Trump…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:35:15am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:41:02am

re: #218 Teukka

Am I the only one who gets the feeling that something is about to blow?

It’s Friday. Expect it…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:41:06am

With the GOP in power, nothing is an impeachable offense.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:42:43am

Well here is the video that Fucks thinks is OMG SO FREAKING HILARIOUS

Remy: People Will Die!


Sarah Silverman’s song about people dying (which is also not in any way LOL HILARIOUS) was better

Sarah Silverman - 4. You’re Gonna Die Soon

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:46:24am
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FormerDirtDart  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:46:54am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:47:33am

There is a war between the media and Trump - because Trump FUCKING STARTED IT!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:48:50am

re: #316 Eclectic Cyborg

There is a war between the media and Trump - because Trump FUCKING STARTED IT!

Not true. The media started it by not sufficiently praising Trump and his accomplishments while admonishing all Americans to fall in line behind their newly chosen leader.

/

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:53:17am

re: #299 HappyWarrior

He’s created a fascist movement in our country.

That’s giving Trump far, far too much credit.

The GOP rank-and-file has been this sick for a long time. Trump’s only guilty of managing to exploit that sickness to the hilt.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 30, 2017 • 8:57:45am

re: #290 Timothy Watson

Didn’t he threaten CNN and try to force Ana Navarro off the air?

I think he & Jared called Zucker.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:00:11am

I for one would be quite wary of a Red TARDIS…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:00:55am
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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:03:34am

re: #308 lawhawk

It’s quite likely the RI DOT will be making the hauler disassemble the whole damn thing and take it away piecemeal.

Hopefully they have a state trooper and mobile truck scales a mile down the road while the company is doing that to make sure every truck is below the weight limit.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:05:56am

re: #314 The Vicious Babushka

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Then he shouldn’t complain if he ever gets hassled by a Democratic administration. Oh wait, he cries when he gets called out.

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Jay C  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:07:40am

re: #320 FormerDirtDart

I for one would be quite wary of a Red TARDIS…

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Why? This one obviously has its Chameleon Chip working properly!

(Though I really did expect to see Tom Baker David Tennant Peter Capaldi waving from the door….)

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Dr. Matt  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:08:53am

re: #308 lawhawk

And if that haul took out a bridge, the right would be blaming the gummit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:09:34am

All of his legal arguments sound the same as a sovcit.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:11:10am

re: #308 lawhawk

Considering that the TV station reporting on this is owned by noted Republican propagandists Sinclair Broadcasting, it’s not a surprise they’d bury the lede like that.

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mmmirele  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:15:33am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

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All of his legal arguments sound the same as a sovcit.

In documents filed June 19, Girod argued that the charges in the indictment “do not apply to me.”

“I am not a creation of state/government, as such I am not within its jurisdiction,” Girod wrote. He added later: “The proceedings of the ‘United States District Court’ cannot be applied within the jurisdiction of the ‘State of Kentucky.’”

Yup, he’s a sovereign citizen nutbar. Thanks for pointing it out. (Goes off to post at the place where we track the sovcit nutbars.)

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:15:59am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

what glorious state in the union is fortunate enough to have this statesman as its senator?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:17:37am

re: #314 The Vicious Babushka

Hannity is an informal adviser to Trump and has urged him to crack down much harder on media

What would it mean for the POTUS and US government to “crack down much harder on the media”?

Remember when the RWNJ said Obama was a “dictator”?

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:18:23am

re: #194 sagehen

We’re gonna want pix.
re: #196 darthstar

So noted…it is Friday. BBL.

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Belafon  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:18:55am

re: #304 Dr. Matt

Read this story. Pretty scary shit. In short, a truck was hauling a 560,000-pound generator and would have crossed 40 bridges to make the delivery. They had to pull over because apparently this heavy of a load is not allowed on US Highways.

There’s a follow up story if you go to the link: turnto10.com.

An overweight truck that was stopped at the side of Interstate 95 in Warwick for days was gone Friday morning.NBC 10 News found the truck at the Park & Ride lot on Centerville Road. The flatbed truck was pulled over because it’s too heavy for any bridges in the state.

[RIDOT Director Peter] Alviti said four bridges the truck already traveled over coming from Quonset are being re-inspected.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:19:13am

re: #314 The Vicious Babushka

Hannity is an informal adviser to Trump and has urged him to crack down much harder on media

But CNN and the rest of the mainstream media has “credibility problems” according to Hannity and Fox.

LOL

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lawhawk  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:19:31am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yup. The guy’s a sovcit extremist, who happens to be Amish.
The headline they’re running with buries the lede.

An Amish man was sentenced Friday to six years in prison for obstruction of justice and for making and selling herbal health products that were not adequately labeled as required by federal law.

Samuel A. Girod of Bath County, a member of the Old Order Amish faith, was convicted in March on 13 charges, including threatening a person in an attempt to stop him from providing information to a grand jury.

U.S. District Judge Danny Reeves repeatedly asked Girod in court if he wished to make a statement but Girod refused. Girod, who represented himself, does not acknowledge that the court has jurisdiction.

“I do not waive my immunity to this court,” Girod told the judge. “I do not consent.”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:21:08am
336
ObserverArt  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:22:49am

re: #235 (Bert the Turtle)

..and with all that right-wing competition. I’m mean you have your O’keefe clan, then there’s the pharma-bro, just about 90% of anyone ever hosting Fox & Friends, & the Breitbart crew. Holy shit! I think I have an idea for a new arcade game!

Whack-A-Winger!™

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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:23:15am

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

When Trump says “many people don’t know,” it’s safe to assume he’s the “many people” he’s talking about.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:24:48am

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Right, because no one has ever heard of Samsung or Hyundai.

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plansbandc  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:24:54am

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:24:55am

Insurance company weighs in on my car after the windscreen was destroyed in the hailstorm two days ago:

I called my insurance company first. The glass in my windscreen is partly separated … it has one long crack from the passenger’s side pillar across the driver’s side viewing area but not quite to the other pillar. There is a distinct separation in the two glass sections.

The insurance company told me not to drive it like that. They suggested calling the Mercedes-Benz dealer in Denver to see if they could come get my car. (They can, as it had a problem a couple years ago returning from Arkansas where the engine kept shutting down - turned out to be all the wheel weights were thrown off the car due to our dirt roads - Mercedes did not charge us for the truck to Denver and back or the repair since they wrote it off as an interesting engineering problem.)

The Mercedes-Benz dealer agreed with our insurance agent: Don’t drive it. They said there was an auto glass company in Scottsbluff that can replace Smart windscreens (the only one in this half of the state). #

I called them, and they will come round my house Monday afternoon to replace the windscreen (they have to order one in). As the cost of the windscreen, sixty mile trip, and labour come in under the deductible of my comprehensive insurance ($340 to repair including driving to my house vs. $500 deductible), I have to pay cash money or cheque (like most businesses here, they don’t take credit).

So, no trip to town this weekend.

I had an out-of-state friend drop in this morning (I figured he was lost or something if he came here). He is on a trip from Michigan to Oregon, and when he went by the town limit sign he remembered I live here. He dropped in to the General Store, where several people gave him the side-eye when he started asking about my wife and me (out-of-staters get looked at funny here if they start asking about locals).

He said it took about ten minutes or so to convince them he was legit, then was directed to my house.

My wife and I almost never get visitors, so that was a pleasant surprise.

The water tower project should be finished this afternoon, after which I’m on duty to reset all the system valves and start filling the tower.

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lawhawk  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:26:34am

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:26:54am

re: #239 Timothy Watson

Ah, I was curious what the contemporary interpretation was because it seems so prescient, yet at the same time over the top.

(If I’m even making any sense.) :)

It really wasn’t seen as over-the-top for the younger crowd. I was in my last year at art college and to the art crowd it was seen as righteous and a look at the very near future. It was a hit from the get-go and the famous rant scene has been popular and used to make a point ever since.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:27:59am
344
Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:28:47am

“We need a businessman in office to get the economy running right!”

“I’m an awesome businessman with years of success! By the way, did you know South Korea is a major trading partner of ours?”

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ObserverArt  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:31:00am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jennifer Rubin ✔ @JRubinBlogger
@RandPaul @JohnJHarwood @realDonaldTrump And boom, negotiations come to screeching halt
7:40 AM - 30 Jun 2017

It died late yesterday. The Senate packed their bags and left town before nightfall.

I think they are going to have a damn hard time getting any piece of Mitch’s bullshit bill passed no matter how much he has to throw at people to buy off.

It has been exposed and now there is a huge spotlight on healthcare and everyone is watching. With many GOPers calling for joint party work and starting fresh…she’s dead Jim Mitch.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:31:11am

re: #252 Timothy Watson

I was assuming Kentucky.

Yes. But I guess Texas works, too. I can’t keep track of those red states.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:32:09am

re: #337 Targetpractice

When Trump says “many people don’t know,” it’s safe to assume he’s the “many people” he’s talking about.

Well, in fairness, also his sons, Ivanka, Steve Bannon, etc.

/////

348
EmmaAnne  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:33:17am

re: #345 ObserverArt

It died late yesterday. The Senate packed their bags and left town before nightfall.

I think they are going to have a damn hard time getting any piece of Mitch’s bullshit bill passed no matter how much he has to throw at people to buy off.

It has been exposed and now there is a huge spotlight on healthcare and everyone is watching. With many GOPers calling for joint party work and starting fresh…she’s dead Jim Mitch.

I really hope you are right, but that is what we thought when the House pulled their bill for not having enough votes. A few weeks later they slapped a few bandaids on it and passed it.

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covfefe  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:33:50am
350
Barefoot Grin  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:36:01am

re: #270 Franklin

[Embedded content]

Brilliant. I just watched “Get Out” a couple of days ago.

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ObserverArt  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:37:38am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

Holly O’Reilly ✔ @AynRandPaulRyan
The National Enquirer came after Mika’s *children*.
And Trump said he could make it all go away if they would apologize to him.#Morningjoe


9:35 AM - 30 Jun 2017
445 445 Retweets 536 536 likes

Any further proof needed Trump was/is a mobster.

He sure does head up a crime family.

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:37:57am

re: #349 covfefe

[Embedded content]

I was going to post the original, but I decided to go with The Simpsons version:

im just an bill- the simpsons version im just an amernment to be

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:42:48am
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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:43:23am

It shows the difference between an amateur and a pro when Trump jumps up and says “Repeal now, replace later.” Ryan and McConnell have already spent a lot of political capital just shepherding these bills to this point, capital they can’t get back and a loss that will be felt later in the year when it comes time to start dealing with impending deadlines for the budget, the debt ceiling, and other major spending priorities. If this bill dies, then that’s pretty much it until after 2018. No “tax reform,” a much more contentious budget process as the “savings” from Trumpcare will have to come from somewhere else in the budget to fulfill all those promises about “balanced budgets,” and the very real possibility of a government shutdown in the fall.

tl;dr, Yertle has too much invested in this bill to drop it and start again. It’s this or nothing until 2019.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:45:44am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:50:45am

re: #354 Targetpractice

It shows the difference between an amateur and a pro when Trump jumps up and says “Repeal now, replace later.” Ryan and McConnell have already spent a lot of political capital just shepherding these bills to this point, capital they can’t get back and a loss that will be felt later in the year when it comes time to start dealing with impending deadlines for the budget, the debt ceiling, and other major spending priorities. If this bill dies, then that’s pretty much it until after 2018. No “tax reform,” a much more contentious budget process as the “savings” from Trumpcare will have to come from somewhere else in the budget to fulfill all those promises about “balanced budgets,” and the very real possibility of a government shutdown in the fall.

tl;dr, Yertle has too much invested in this bill to drop it and start again. It’s this or nothing until 2019.

Trump has a long way to go to reach amateur status.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:53:29am
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:53:37am

re: #301 lawhawk

Perry tried the same fucking nonsense. Sen. Franken destroyed Perry then, and should do the same here:

[Embedded content]

Video

Holy shit. Franken does his homework. Rick Perry looks like such a bumbling dope.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:55:36am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 30, 2017 • 9:57:59am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think Ye Olde Jebediah may have had a case if he traded his herbal remedies for say, chickens, and not the almighty dollar.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:02:29am
362
Ace-o-aces  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:02:46am

re: #353 FormerDirtDart

363
Dr. Matt  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:06:53am

re: #361 FormerDirtDart

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:07:57am
365
ObserverArt  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:08:21am

re: #337 Targetpractice

When Trump says “many people don’t know,” it’s safe to assume he’s the “many people” he’s talking about.

And…he don’t know a lot!

You can tell he led a very sheltered life of a rich kid that only learned what he needed to have fun, rip people off and generally get by on daddy’s money. He had no curiosity to want to understand how everything works.

It really is sad that a complete dumb ass can be “successful” enough to get as far as he has.

This country should be embarrassed we let this happen. But we are not. Too many are defending it. They didn’t want an non-establishment Republican politician…they wanted a dumb ass as rude, crude and ignorant as they are.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:09:34am

re: #362 Ace-o-aces

Why do bigots think bacon works on Muslims the same way holy water acts on vampires?

They don’t, they just delight in being offensive, belligerent assholes.

367
piratedan  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:09:40am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think the election of Trump was like America’s own Red Wedding….

368
Barefoot Grin  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:10:13am

re: #365 ObserverArt

And…he don’t know a lot!

You can tell he led a very sheltered life of a rich kid that only learned what he needed to have fun, rip people off and generally get by on daddy’s money. He had no curiosity to want to understand how everything works.

It really is sad that a complete dumb ass can be “successful” enough to get as far as he has.

This country should be embarrassed we let this happen. But we are not. Too many are defending it. They didn’t want an non-establishment Republican politician…they wanted a dumb ass as rude, crude and ignorant as they are.

He’s speaking to his base who haven’t the foggiest fucking clue that Honda and Hyundai, Sony and Samsung, don’t come from the same country.

369
Ace-o-aces  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:10:17am
370
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:11:09am

re: #367 piratedan

I think the election of Trump was like America’s own Red Wedding….

I fear that historians will mark the period directly before 9/11 as America’s High Water Mark and November 2016 as the beginning of its decline…

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:11:33am

re: #366 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They don’t, they just delight in being offensive, belligerent assholes.

Islamaphobe: HA! I have just put bacon on your face! What will you do now!?

Muslim: Um, wash my face.

372
FormerDirtDart  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:12:05am

My theory, it’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
With an exponentially increasing number of scandals, theoretically Mueller will never be able to actually complete his investigation…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:12:49am

re: #39 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I think I see why air activity is high in South Korea by way of our surveillance

Watch live: President Trump and South Korea president deliver joint statements at White House

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Stanley Sea  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:13:02am

re: #353 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Exactly what isis wanted.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:14:12am
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sagehen  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:14:14am
377
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:14:22am

somebody tell me why twitter hasn’t banned trump

378
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:14:29am

In which Newsweek argues that Trump’s unhinged Tweetstorms are deliberately composed in order to push other, more damaging stories out of the top news.

But nope, it’s just all about him all the time.

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piratedan  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:15:23am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

well there’s his problem, he’s not armed and he’s not using national lands for his own profit… //////////

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:15:43am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:16:04am

re: #377 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

somebody tell me why twitter hasn’t banned trump

it has been suggested (I think on this site) that they would then have to ban everyone who was a rude and offensive

but mostly because they are not about to ban someone who keeps their name a household word on a daily (hourly) basis

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:16:36am

re: #378 The Vicious Babushka

In which Newsweek argues that Trump’s unhinged Tweetstorms are deliberately composed in order to push other, more damaging stories out of the top news.

But nope, it’s just all about him all the time.

Intentional or not, that is their effect.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:17:00am

re: #380 darthstar

[Embedded content]

You mean the Jared Kushner who tried to get his Observer editor to use the paper to trash an enemy?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:17:35am

re: #377 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

somebody tell me why twitter hasn’t banned trump

Many people reported his targeted abuse of Mika yesterday. If that was anyone else in this country, they would have received a temp twitter ban and likely fired from their job.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:17:48am

re: #362 Ace-o-aces

Why do bigots think bacon works on Muslims the same way holy water acts on vampires?

— aceoaces

They’re not very bright.

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:18:56am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:19:17am

re: #382 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Intentional or not, that is their effect.

Well there was the story that dropped yesterday (or today) about Flynn and Clinton emails and Russian hackers.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:19:39am

re: #361 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

And it all leads to Jared

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:20:09am

re: #386 darthstar

Yeah but Obama interviewed that guy about fruit loops.

/

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:20:40am

re: #388 Stanley Sea

And it all leads to Jared

[Embedded content]

I really want that guy to spend some time behind bars one of these days.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:20:43am

re: #388 Stanley Sea

And it all leads to Jared

Sounds like a great guy.

//

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:21:15am

Yeah…that’s pretty much how extortion works.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:21:15am

re: #387 Sir John Barron

Well there was the story that dropped yesterday (or today) about Flynn and Clinton emails and Russian hackers.

yes, I find the level of posturing and bluster high even by DT standards…

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Stanley Sea  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:22:43am

Sorry for dup post. Can’t keep up.

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FormerDirtDart  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:23:07am
396
Birth Control Works  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:23:37am

Science is so cool!

What’s really happening during an LHC collision? -Symmetry Magazine -Fermilab/SLAC

“The inside of a proton would look like the atmosphere around you,” says Richard Ruiz, a theorist at Durham University. “It’s a mixture of empty space and microscopic particles that, for all intents and purposes, have no physical volume.

“But if you put those particles inside a balloon, you’ll see the balloon expand. Even though the internal particles are microscopic, they interact with each other and exert a force on their surroundings, inevitably producing something which does have an observable volume.”

So how do you collide two objects that are effectively empty space? You can’t. But luckily, you don’t need a classical collision to unleash a particle’s full potential.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:23:49am

re: #392 darthstar

Yeah…that’s pretty much how extortion works.

[Embedded content]

For an APOLOGY.

He’s fucking insane.

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darthstar  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:24:11am

re: #394 Stanley Sea

Sorry for dup post. Can’t keep up.

Meh…it happens.

399
Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:24:17am

re: #397 Stanley Sea

For an APOLOGY.

He’s fucking insane.

He loves a good grovel.

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ObserverArt  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:25:21am

re: #348 EmmaAnne

I really hope you are right, but that is what we thought when the House pulled their bill for not having enough votes. A few weeks later they slapped a few bandaids on it and passed it.

True, but many said they knew that was a turkey too. It was done to take the heat off the House and to let Donny do the cock-walk with his cheap beer buddies in the Rose Garden.

It had to go to the Senate and they were supposed to fix it up. Many said they would actually soften the House version. They did not. The Senate had no idea what was going on and even 12 of the 13 all-male creation panel had no clue as Mitch had this one cooked up all by his lonesome in his McConnell Crack Lab of Legislation.

The senate version was supposed to be passed Monday…Tuesday at the latest. They never took a vote. Then it was going to be patched over with payouts and ready to go back to the CBO for another score so they could pass it after next weeks holiday break.

It did not get done. They dropped it and ran off. No one really is saying when they will get back to it. A lot of GOP people are calling for a total new look at the ACA and a bi-partisan Senate answer.

I know I am optimistic compared to some that say its a done deal. I’m just looking at the facts. This is not how a piece of legislation that is going to actually last and has to be liked by all of America is done. Remember…1/5 or 1/6th of the entire economy. The big medical people don’t want it, I think even the Kochs don’t like it.

Does that sound like a bill that is going anywhere? It already has two broken wings and two busted legs. It is not going to fly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:25:40am

BeachDem, add NY to your list.

402
Birth Control Works  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:25:50am

re: #385 Sir John Barron

They’re not very bright.

Basic human decency goes out the window …

WTF makes anyone think they can behave that way in a civilized society?

403
Dr. Matt  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:26:27am

I guess for once we’re lucky that Republicans never apologize!

404
Birth Control Works  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:26:46am

re: #377 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

somebody tell me why twitter hasn’t banned trump

Like Obama and guns, he’s good for business.

405
Stanley Sea  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:27:02am

re: #399 Timothy Watson

He loves a good grovel.

His id is dominance. Nothing more.

406
Birth Control Works  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:28:00am

re: #370 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I fear that historians will mark the period directly before 9/11 as America’s High Water Mark and November 2016 as the beginning of its decline…

Election of a black man certain made people show their colors … .

407
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:28:17am

and Utah:

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Targetpractice  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:29:07am

Jared seems to be the capo of the White House family, who’s taking orders from Don but in such a way that when the indictments inevitably head towards 1600 Penn Ave, he can be the fall guy who will be pardoned by the boss on his way out the door.

409
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:36:12am

re: #401 Backwoods_Sleuth

BeachDem, add NY to your list.

New York’s Governor confirms the state will not comply with the Trump Election Commission request.

Needless to day, this will be offered as proof of a Deep-State cover-up.

410
Jay C  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:38:12am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

and Utah:

[Embedded content]

So that’s what, now? Seven states telling Pence and Kobach to go pound sand over their little Inquisition?

I wonder how many (if any) states - the ruby-red ones, natch - have jumped up to gleefully volunteer said info to the Disenfranchisement Board?

And on a more serious note, is there any legal basis (outside of the relevant state officials’ opposition or support) to challenge these information requests? Class-action suits, or the like?

411
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:38:50am

re: #406 Birth Control Works

Election of a black man certain made people show their colors … .

and that irked me massively about “conservatives”.

Obama could have been offered up as living proof that the American Dream can work for anyone, regardless of race or background, who works hard enough.

But that would have meant acknowledging his accomplishments, even begrudgingly, and that is where people showed their true colors…

412
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:39:51am

and Georgia:

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Timothy Watson  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:40:51am

re: #410 Jay C

And on a more serious note, is there any legal basis (outside of the relevant state officials’ opposition or support) to challenge these information requests? Class-action suits, or the like?

There might some federal law somewhere restricting data collection not permitted otherwise by law.

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Myron Falwell  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:42:52am

re: #377 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

somebody tell me why twitter hasn’t banned trump

A few possibilities…
1) They are fearful of being blackmailed by Trump and/or Jared.
2) They have no logical business plan in place to remain viable, unlike Facebook et al, if he were to rage quit, get incarcerated or whatever fate beholds him.
3) They WANT the attention in any way possible. Trump threatening WWIII in a series of tweets that winds up with the state department running out of their offices with combustible hair guarantees more clicks.
4) DudeBro Libertarianism. Nuff said.
5) All of the above.

415
Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:44:03am

re: #399 Timothy Watson

He loves a good grovel.

Kiss the ring bitch! Kiss it…

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Sir John Barron  Jun 30, 2017 • 10:58:08am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

Utah’s a “no”?

417
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 11:00:21am

re: #416 Sir John Barron

Utah’s a “no”?

Utah is a “no”

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BeachDem  Jun 30, 2017 • 11:11:03am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

All of his legal arguments sound the same as a sovcit.

And look at who one of his supporters outside the courthouse was:

One non-Amish supporter, Richard Mack of Arizona, said after the sentencing that, “This is a national disgrace and outrage. … He is being punished for being stubborn.”

Mack, a former Arizona sheriff and political activist, said he and others will ask President Donald Trump to issue a pardon to Girod. Mack said he has used Girod’s chickweed salve with no ill effects.

en.wikipedia.org

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BeachDem  Jun 30, 2017 • 11:28:25am

re: #401 Backwoods_Sleuth

BeachDem, add NY to your list.

[Embedded content]

Thanks—know this is late (but also know you keep dead threads alive!)

Working on my letter to our Elections Commission (SC doesn’t do it through the Sec of State), not that it will do any good but gotta do something.

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BeachDem  Jun 30, 2017 • 11:32:35am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

and Utah:

[Embedded content]

Got it—thanks.

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BeachDem  Jun 30, 2017 • 11:33:27am

re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth

and Georgia:

[Embedded content]

You’re on a roll…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 30, 2017 • 11:34:30am

re: #421 BeachDem

You’re on a roll…

more upstairs: North Carolina and Ohio

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BeachDem  Jun 30, 2017 • 11:36:33am

re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth

more upstairs: North Carolina and Ohio

All caught up here and heading upstairs.


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Recycling Chaos in U.S. As China Bans ‘Foreign Waste’ Like many Portland residents, Satish and Arlene Palshikar are serious recyclers. Their house is coated with recycled bluish-white paint. They recycle their rainwater, compost their food waste and carefully separate the paper and plastic they toss out. But recently, ...
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Trump Jerusalem Move: Tear Gas at Lebanon US Embassy Protest There have been violent clashes near the US embassy in Lebanon, in the latest protest against President Donald Trump's decision to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Security forces fired tear gas and water cannon to force back ...
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Trump Says He and Trudeau Disagree on Trade Deficit. U.S. Stats Seem to Be on the PM’s SideHair Furor just can't seem to catch a break these days....Despite Trump's insistence the U.S. has a trade deficit with Canada, statistics from the website of the office of the U.S. Trade Representative -- the office handling NAFTA negotiations -- ...
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Blondie - Doom or Destiny (Official Video)Blondie performing "Doom or Destiny" from the new album "Pollinator".Out Now: blondie.lnk.to Follow Blondiefacebook.cominstagram.com@BlondieOfficial vevo.ly
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Beth Hart & Joe Bonamassa - Black Coffee (Official Music Video) Official video for Black Coffee from the new Beth Hart & Joe Bonamassa album Black Coffee. Pre-order: smarturl.it BLACK COFFEE is available to pre-order on CD and vinyl. The limited CD box includes 2 coasters, a postcard and an ...
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Sparks - ‘This Town Ain’t Big Enough for Both of Us’ (Live at WFUV) wfuv.org • Follow @wfuv: ow.ly Sparks (allsparks.com) performs "This Town Ain't Big Enough For Both of Us" live in Studio A. Recorded 10.12.17. Host: Darren DeVivoAudio: Jim O'HaraCameras: Dan Tuozzoli, Kristal Ho, Monica Fafaul, Alexandra Brennan and Liz CarrEditor: ...
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