Trump Calls Mika Brzezinski “Dumb as a Rock,” Admits He’s Fishing for Fake “Voter Fraud”

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Trump is reportedly “on vacation” this weekend, although I’m not sure how that differs from any other day for the lazy narcissistic yam. But he still found time to launch another storm of ranting, unhinged tweets full of insults and misogyny.

He’s basically repeating his right wing hate themes over and over to keep his base of hard core cultists enraged and ignorant. And since he’s in the midst of a very presidential personal feud with talk show hosts Joe Scarborough and Mike Brzezinski…

This is the kind of thing that really goes over big with his fans — demeaning women. It’s been that way from the start. It’s a right wing thing.

Of course we get the standard FAKE NEWS line again, that he co-opted from the genuine concern for fake news (being spread mostly by right wing sources) and turned into a repetitive chant for the blinkered masses. The cult never gets tired of that one.

But it’s always fun when Trump’s egomania leads him to reveal the truth about his schemes, like when he kept calling his travel ban a “travel ban” even after he sent spokesholes out to deny it to the media.

He does it again today, setting his caps lock key on STUN and calling that “Election Integrity Commission” he set up to investigate his completely imaginary claims of widespread ballot box hijinks a “VOTER FRAUD PANEL.”

Trump isn’t fooling anyone with this happy horse hockey, of course. More than two dozen states are refusing to comply with dishonest Kris Kobach’s demand for detailed voter records on everyone, because they understand Trump’s “voter fraud panel” will be used to implement voter suppression schemes on a scale we’ve never seen before in this country.

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343 comments

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Citizen K  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:06:20am

How long will it take the media forget yet another attack on their own and treat Trump like a serious, thoughtful leader rather than the monomaniacal, demented, living shitstain on our country’s reputation?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:07:31am

re: #1 Citizen K

How long will it take the media forget yet another attack on their own and treat Trump like a serious, thoughtful leader rather than the monomaniacal, demented, living shitstain on our country’s reputation?

Oh give them a couple of hours and they will go back to kissing Trump’s ass.

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mmmirele  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:08:12am

I’m very seriously tempted to go full-metal fundie (as a joke) and tell everyone I know that Trump’s desire for voter lists is just preparation for the Mark of the Beast.

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BigBadDemocrat  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:08:15am

Seems Americans themselves have due to procastation supressed themselves.
In fact Trump may just be what is needed to get people off their lazy butts and vote.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:15:29am

From the previous thread:

re: #293 Dr Lizardo

Darwin Award Honorable Mention candidate?

The criterion for a Darwin Award is you take yourself out of the gene pool through misadventure. You do not have to kill yourself.

If he has ended his ability to reproduce because he just “had” to have a gun in his car but lived, he still gets the award.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:19:57am

re: #3 mmmirele

I’m very seriously tempted to go full-metal fundie (as a joke) and tell everyone I know that Trump’s desire for voter lists is just preparation for the Mark of the Beast.

There are millions of Xtians who will gladly accept the mark if Trump demands that!

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KerFuFFler  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:24:01am

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread:

The criterion for a Darwin Award is you take yourself out of the gene pool through misadventure. You do not have to kill yourself.

If he has ended his ability to reproduce because he just “had” to have a gun in his car but lived, he still gets the award.

Yeah, I seem to remember that some dimwit got awarded one after trying to shoplift a lobster by hiding it in his pants. Ouch! The grocery store manager ended up not pressing charges ‘cause he figured the wretch had suffered enough….

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:24:21am

93F with 54% humidity. It’s officially time to stop mowing weeds and collecting fallen limbs.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:26:27am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:27:51am

re: #6 Joe Bacon 🌹

There are millions of Xtians who will gladly accept the mark if Trump demands that!

I’m not a Christian and my familiarity with End Times eschatology is somewhat thin, but wouldn’t that fit with following the anti-Christ as laid out in 1 John and 2 John?

Since a lot of the prosperity gospel types also preach worship of money over worship of God, don’t they also fit that definition?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:28:47am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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Stein did to Hillary what Nader did to Gore.

GREEN = Getting Republicans Elected Every November!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:31:38am

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not a Christian and my familiarity with End Times eschatology is somewhat thin, but wouldn’t that fit with following the anti-Christ as laid out in 1 John and 2 John?

Since a lot of the prosperity gospel types also preach worship of money over worship of God, don’t they also fit that definition?

When religious nuts BS about Obama being the Antichrist, I remind them who the Real Antichrist was!

RONALD = 6
WILSON = 6
REAGAN = 6

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:34:58am

I just ran into the Photobucket hosting/linking kerfuffle. I’ve got a decade of forum posts on a number of forums, mostly watch forums, that I guess are now showing up as ‘cracked picture’ icons. Luckily LGF, and Blogspot where my watch blog is, host the pics directly.

From free to $400/year with no warning? Did Martin Shkreli buy Photobucket?

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Lidane  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:37:48am
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MsJ  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:38:33am

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread:

The criterion for a Darwin Award is you take yourself out of the gene pool through misadventure. You do not have to kill yourself.

If he has ended his ability to reproduce because he just “had” to have a gun in his car but lived, he still gets the award.

Thanks.

I was just talking about that. Downstairs. To myself. 😳

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:39:45am

re: #13 Blind Frog Belly White

I just ran into the Photobucket hosting/linking kerfuffle. I’ve got a decade of forum posts on a number of forums, mostly watch forums, that I guess are now showing up as ‘cracked picture’ icons. Luckily LGF, and Blogspot where my watch blog is, host the pics directly.

From free to $400/year with no warning? Did Martin Shkreli buy Photobucket?

Whut? I saw something about Photobucket but haven’t checked into it since I have an account. It doesn’t matter as most of the links are to forums that are now gone and one still going but doesn’t really matter.

$400? Sounds like a hi-jack/scam.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:40:52am

Pulling out the Skeptic’s Annotated Bible … (Bible lookups in progress, do not shut off your computer) …

1 John 2:18, 2:22, 4:3, and 2 John 7

Hmm … the writer(s) specifically refer to those who do not believe as antichrists. As such there are about five billion or so antichrists currently alive. That’s a lot of antichrists.

Rev 13:5-8 refers to the Beast as someone who is a great blasphemer against God. (As I recall, this has been invoked against just about every Pope by Protestants, and President Obama by every wingnut.)

I guess we worry about the Apocalypse (Revelation) if Trump is ousted from office after forty-two months. (Doing some quick research, it would appear that is the time that eschatologists - the last half of the so-called Tribulation - that the biggest of all antichrists - The Beast - rules over all those who worship him that are not written in the Book of Life. Atheists should be safe then, since we don’t worship.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:41:05am

re: #14 Lidane

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Oooo, even better - a ‘color me’ placemat! It’ll keep him occupied, and educate him, while he waits for his KFC bucket.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:43:55am

re: #16 ObserverArt

Whut? I saw something about Photobucket but haven’t checked into it since I have an account. It doesn’t matter as most of the links are to forums that are now gone and one still going but doesn’t really matter.

$400? Sounds like a hi-jack/scam.

I was thinking that myself. It doesn’t seem like the sort of thing a legitimate business does, unless it’s been taken over by somebody wanting to suck money out and then disappear.

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BeachDem  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:44:05am

Welp, if any three people have “distinguished” themselves as total frauds, it’s Kobach, Von Spakovsky and Blackwell…

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Lidane  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:47:07am

Of all people, the Mississippi Secretary of State had the best response to Trump and Kobach:

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:48:29am

re: #20 BeachDem

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Welp, if any three people have “distinguished” themselves as total frauds, it’s Kobach, Von Spakovsky and Blackwell…

Kobach won’t even give the information for his state.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:48:39am

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

I was thinking that myself. It doesn’t seem like the sort of thing a legitimate business does, unless it’s been taken over by somebody wanting to suck money out and then disappear.

Shorter: Capitalism (profiteering).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:53:37am

PC Magazine explains the issue with Photobucket. They assert it is possible someone simply screwed up, or management will realise their mistake and reverse it. (Not too sure about that; I don’t use image hosting sites.)

pcmag.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:56:15am

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread:

The criterion for a Darwin Award is you take yourself out of the gene pool through misadventure. You do not have to kill yourself.

If he has ended his ability to reproduce because he just “had” to have a gun in his car but lived, he still gets the award.

That’s a good point. Shooting oneself in the pecker certainly counts as “taking yourself out of the gene pool”.

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Stephen T.  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:56:19am
Numerous states are refusing to give information to the very distinguished VOTER FRAUD PANEL. What are they trying to hide?

I responded to this tweet with:

Donald J. Trump is refusing to release his TAX RETURNS. What is he trying to hide?

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BeachDem  Jul 1, 2017 • 11:59:46am

re: #21 Lidane

Of all people, the Mississippi Secretary of State had the best response to Trump and Kobach:

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And Wisconsin gets a runner-up trophy for:

Haas said that the president’s commission could buy more limited data on the full voter rolls from the state for $12,500 in the same way that many political campaigns do.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:01:31pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹

Shorter: Capitalism (profiteering).

Yeah, but this is both extreme and clumsy. I could see it if they went from free to $10-50/year. But $400? It’s like either they want to fail, or somebody took over hoping to scam a couple subscriptions and bolt.

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BeachDem  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:03:53pm

On the WSJ story about the band of evil morons, this was one of the connections I’d previously missed—from a comment at kos:

The document Tait received from Peter Smith “listed a number of senior campaign officials: Steve Bannon, Kellyanne Conway, Sam Clovis, Lt. Gen. Flynn and Lisa Nelson.” “Lisa Nelson” apparently refers to Lisa B. Nelson, the CEO of ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council, the right-wing organization that drafts legislation for Republican legislators. If Nelson is involved, even remotely, in collusion with Russia, it would be a huge black eye for ALEC and would expose the lie that ALEC is a “nonpartisan” nonprofit. BTW, Lisa B. Nelson helped Newt Gingrich draft his Contract With [On] America back in the day. She richly deserves some jail time. This is getting interesting!

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:04:08pm

re: #28 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but this is both extreme and clumsy. I could see it if they went from free to $10-50/year. But $400? It’s like either they want to fail, or somebody took over hoping to scam a couple subscriptions and bolt.

$40 a month. Fools. I get the full Adobe CC Suite for $50 something. and I make money on those tools. What would I do without Photoshop??? And other Adobe programs.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:05:39pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:09:51pm

Referencing from downstairs…..this “Dead Mall” episode is about the death of K-Mart. The video creator, Dan Bell, speaks early on in the video about being with his grandfather in a K-Mart cafeteria, and damn, that brought back memories of my childhood in the mid-1970’s; shopping at K-Mart with my parents, the K-Mart cafeteria, the ham sandwiches.

DEAD MALL SERIES : THE END OF KMART : From Open to Closed to Abandoned!

End of an era.

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darthstar  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:12:19pm

One of the sunflowers in the vacant lot across the street is being irresponsible with its bloomage. It’s a bit taller than I am (6’2”)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:12:32pm

re: #32 Dr Lizardo

Our K-Mart in Scottsbluff closed a couple months ago. We were in there one day, and a week later they were gone.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:15:15pm

re: #33 darthstar

One of the sunflowers in the vacant lot across the street is being irresponsible with its bloomage. It’s a bit taller than I am (6’2”)

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Strictly, those are black-eyed susans.

Sunflowers (the giant-head ones) always face east. (Rural intelligent life pro-tip)

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:15:57pm

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹

Our K-Mart in Scottsbluff closed a couple months ago. We were in there one day, and a week later they were gone.

Yeah. I reckon Sears will be going next……I’ve read speculation could be by the end of this year.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:18:01pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹

Strictly, those are black-eyed susans.

Sunflowers (the giant-head ones) always face east. (Rural intelligent life pro-tip)

Are you sure? All the black eyed Susan’s I’ve ever seen were more like daisies. Smaller than that. I didn’t think they grew in clusters either. I don’t think you’re right.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:20:56pm

re: #37 MsJ

Are you sure? All the black eyed Susan’s I’ve ever seen were more like daisies. Smaller than that. I didn’t think they grew in clusters either. I don’t think you’re right.

Black eyed Susan’s are small.

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:22:02pm

re: #37 MsJ

Are you sure? All the black eyed Susan’s I’ve ever seen were more like daisies. Smaller than that. I didn’t think they grew in clusters either. I don’t think you’re right.

Susans have a smaller center and it is very round and sticks out. Looks more like Sunflower as far as the centers and the petals. I thought they faced the sun so they aren’t always facing east. I remember we had some and they faced our house in the evenings and that would have been west. I remember looking out the window at dinner time and seeing them.

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retired cynic  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:23:36pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

Black eyed Susan’s are small.

I don’t think it is either a black eyed susan, or a standard central plains sunflower. Probably a variety of sunflower. There are 70 species, I see, from Google!

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:23:49pm

Sunflowers get less flexible as they mature, and want you to get off their lawn.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:24:48pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:24:48pm

re: #37 MsJ

Are you sure? All the black eyed Susan’s I’ve ever seen were more like daisies. Smaller than that. I didn’t think they grew in clusters either. I don’t think you’re right.

I’ll have to retract that statement. It would seem the term “black eyed susan” is applied to that sort of flower as a local term. The multi-headed stalk flowers are sunflowers (just not the agricultural kind harvested for seed).

You learn stuff round here.

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:25:17pm

re: #40 retired cynic

I don’t think it is either a black eyed susan, or a standard central plains sunflower. Probably a variety of sunflower. There are 70 species, I see, from Google!

West Coast Liberal Sunflowers. Go figure. Darth???

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:26:24pm

re: #39 ObserverArt

Susans have a smaller center and it is very round and sticks out. Looks more like Sunflower as far as the centers and the petals. I thought they faced the sun so they aren’t always facing east. I remember we had some and they faced our house in the evenings and that would have been west. I remember looking out the window at dinner time and seeing them.

Only young sunflowers face the sun. They lose that mysterious ability as they mature, and as adult flowers only face east.

npr.org

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:27:51pm

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹

I’ll have to retract that statement. It would seem the term “black eyed susan” is applied to that sort of flower as a local term. The multi-headed stalk flowers are sunflowers (just not the agricultural kind harvested for seed).

You learn stuff round here.

That sounds right. The ones my father would plant did seem to have huge flowers concentrated at the top and few per plant. I remember him drying them and then the seeds would pop out.

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:30:33pm

re: #42 jaunte

[Plague is found in New Mexico. Again.]

We want you to get off our rodents.

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Lidane  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:31:01pm

Oh, this should be fun:

Please do, Lumpy. Unless you’ve got rock solid evidence, you’ll get sued. Bigly.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:31:04pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:33:11pm

re: #48 Lidane

Oh, this should be fun:

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Please do, Lumpy. Unless you’ve got rock solid evidence, you’ll get sued. Bigly.

MORE POPCORN!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:33:12pm

re: #47 wrenchwench

We want you to get off our rodents.

The plague outbreak in Colorado in 2014 was traced to a dog, according to Live Science.

Medical doctors noted the government needs to step up programmes for rural pets to prevent this sort of thing. Naturally, the GOP wants to cut such programmes.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:33:49pm

re: #42 jaunte

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What’s interesting about reading that article is that it’s “plague” and not “the plague.” Plague is just another disease whose name conjures up something that doesn’t match. Like global warming.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:33:57pm

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹

Only young sunflowers face the sun. They lose that mysterious ability as they mature, and as adult flowers only face east.

npr.org

When they become Cross-eyed Marys.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:34:40pm

re: #48 Lidane

Oh, this should be fun:

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Please do, Lumpy. Unless you’ve got rock solid evidence, you’ll get sued. Bigly.

There is no “there” there.

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:34:40pm

re: #48 Lidane

Oh, this should be fun:

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Please do, Lumpy. Unless you’ve got rock solid evidence, you’ll get sued. Bigly.

I am no fan of Joke Scarborough, but I have a feeling he has the smarts and ability to handle someone like Hannity.

But it is fun watching conservatives knife each other. It very much resembles the party.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:35:51pm

re: #48 Lidane

Same American Thinker columnist from Feb. 2016:
We have always been at war with EastAsia Donald Trump Morning Joe.

Patricia McCarthy:
“..How anyone who watched last night’s debate could continue to support Donald Trump is a mystery. The man is a bundle of character flaws, large and small. His behavior betrays his megalomania, his narcissism, and his venal, childish hostility to anyone who dares to disagree with him. He lies so often his opponents on the debate stage could not begin to counter them all.

This man should never, never become the president of the United States. He has never matured beyond the lower elementary school age, and given today’s tyranny of political correctness that regulates how even toddlers in pre-school must conduct themselves and restrict their speech, Mr. Trump would very likely be expelled from any pre-school in the country, let alone a high school or university. The man is the worst America has to offer, an example of the gross deterioration of our national culture.”
americanthinker.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:35:57pm

re: #53 Barefoot Grin

When they become Cross-eyed Marys.

How many of you thought the line was “Gets no kicks from little boys, who’d rather make it with electric trains?

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:36:06pm

re: #55 ObserverArt

I am no fan of Joke Scarborough, but I have a feeling he has the smarts and ability to handle someone like Hannity.

But it is fun watching conservatives knife each other. It very much resembles the party.

“No honor among thieves” seems so appropriate right now.

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whitebeach  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:38:19pm

re: #36 Dr Lizardo

Yeah. I reckon Sears will be going next……I’ve read speculation could be by the end of this year.

Years of management by incompetents. You’d think that if anyone could handle the Internet revolution it would be Sears, which made tons of its profits off its mail catalog for decades. Hard to believe nobody there had the brains to say, “Hey, this Internet thing is just like our old catalog paradigm, only better for us and our customers. Let’s get movin’ on it.”

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:40:37pm

re: #48 Lidane

He linked the American Stinker?

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:40:47pm

re: #32 Dr Lizardo

I remember when the first Kmart was built in our town. There used to be an S. S. Kresge’s in town, an old one, that of course closed when the brand new Kmart opened.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:42:00pm

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

How many of you thought the line was “Gets no kicks from little boys, who’d rather make it with electric trains?

Yes.

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Nyet  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:42:21pm

Alt-right or very old right?

They whine about discrimination. Do you know who is being discriminated against? The white Christian people of America, the ones who created this nation … I am talking about the white Christian people of the North as well as the South … Communism is racial. A racial minority seized control in Russia and in all her satellite countries, such as Poland, Czechoslovakia, and many other countries I could name. They have been run out of practically every country in Europe in the years gone by, and if they keep stirring race trouble in this country and trying to force their communistic program on the Christian people of America, there is no telling what will happen to them here.

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:42:36pm

re: #59 whitebeach

Years of management by incompetents. You’d think that if anyone could handle the Internet revolution it would be Sears, which made tons of its profits off its mail catalog for decades. Hard to believe nobody there had the brains to say, “Hey, this Internet thing is just like our old catalog paradigm, only better for us and our customers. Let’s get movin’ on it.”

Nikon and Kodak had a chance to get deep into digital. I think the creators of Adobe Photoshop even tried to sell them the idea of the software and where the industry was heading. Nikon eventually came around. Kodak was slow and paid for it.

Big companies sometimes have the maneuverability of the Titanic. And the reputation.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:43:17pm

re: #59 whitebeach

Kodak invented the digital camera, never thought it would catch on, now look.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:43:23pm

re: #59 whitebeach

Years of management by incompetents. You’d think that if anyone could handle the Internet revolution it would be Sears, which made tons of its profits off its mail catalog for decades. Hard to believe nobody there had the brains to say, “Hey, this Internet thing is just like our old catalog paradigm, only better for us and our customers. Let’s get movin’ on it.”

The story I hear - and I used to work for Sears back in the 1990’s - was that internet retail was “a pie-in-the-sky dream” that would never go anywhere.

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:44:07pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

The plague outbreak in Colorado in 2014 was traced to a dog, according to Live Science.

Medical doctors noted the government needs to step up programmes for rural pets to prevent this sort of thing. Naturally, the GOP wants to cut such programmes.

But where did the dog get it? Keep your dogs off our rodents.

/

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:44:12pm

re: #66 Dr Lizardo

They said the same thing about the airplane.

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:45:16pm

re: #63 Nyet

Alt-right or very old right?

Yes.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:45:24pm

re: #68 Ace Rothstein

They said the same thing about the airplane.

In fairness, I imagine similar things were said about a good many inventions that we now take for granted. The personal computer and its permutations spring to mind.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:47:19pm

re: #68 Ace Rothstein

They said the same thing about the airplane.

To be fair, it wasn’t the same ‘they’ saying it, because the airplane ‘they’ were dead by then.

Also, to be fair, the airplane is literally in the sky. Sometimes, pie is served.
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:48:22pm

re: #70 Dr Lizardo

In fairness, I imagine similar things were said about a good many inventions that we now take for granted. The personal computer and its permutations spring to mind.

“They’ll never do it!”

“Do what?”

“Drink Canada Dry!”

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:49:26pm

re: #63 Nyet

Alt-right or very old right?

It’s hard to tell anymore. So much gets warmed over and consumed again.

I cheated since I didn’t recognize it. Under Private Tag.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:53:26pm

re: #59 whitebeach

Years of management by incompetents. You’d think that if anyone could handle the Internet revolution it would be Sears, which made tons of its profits off its mail catalog for decades. Hard to believe nobody there had the brains to say, “Hey, this Internet thing is just like our old catalog paradigm, only better for us and our customers. Let’s get movin’ on it.”

When I was stationed overseas, Sears was the go-to mail order service. They had about every common useful item, and they used the US Postal Service (rather than UPS, which is no good for military mail order either overseas or aboard ship).

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:53:34pm

re: #68 Ace Rothstein

They said the same thing about the airplane.

Clean coal…who needs solar and wind.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:55:00pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

But where did the dog get it? Keep your dogs off our rodents.

/

Presumably from a flea, which is the carrier.

Our cat before he died wiped out all the rodents in our house. We need another cat to make sure they don’t reëstablish themselves here.

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:55:03pm

re: #75 ObserverArt

Clean coal…who needs solar and wind.

It’ll work…eventually…given time…and a lot more money…come on, we gotta “keep our options open”…

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:55:23pm

re: #64 ObserverArt

They suffer from the ‘unsinkable’ myth that the Titanic did. “Can’t happen to us!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:56:39pm

re: #70 Dr Lizardo

In fairness, I imagine similar things were said about a good many inventions that we now take for granted. The personal computer and its permutations spring to mind.

Commodore 64 Start Screen
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sagehen  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:56:59pm

re: #61 freetoken

I remember when the first Kmart was built in our town. There used to be an S. S. Kresge’s in town, an old one, that of course closed when the brand new Kmart opened.

How old do you have to be to remember the cliche answer when asking for info, “does Macy’s tell Gimbel’s?”

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:56:59pm

re: #42 jaunte

Plague is found in New Mexico. Again.

Luckily, I live in Florida, and have been inoculated against plague several times…

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:57:33pm

re: #66 Dr Lizardo

The story I hear - and I used to work for Sears back in the 1990’s - was that internet retail was “a pie-in-the-sky dream” that would never go anywhere.

I heard the exact same thing from a computer science PhD in the mid-70s when I asked him about the PCs (that is Apple IIs, PETs and TRS80s) coming onto market.

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:58:32pm

OMG

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:58:50pm

I’ll be able to tell my grandkids about the days when I could walk into a store, pull items off a shelf and put them in a metal cart, pay for them with paper money, and then load them into my car to bring home.

“But grandpa, why would anybody do that when Amazon and Google run our lives?”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 12:59:58pm

re: #78 Romantic Heretic

They suffer from the ‘unsinkable’ myth that the Titanic did. “Can’t happen to us!”

Yup. My wife used to work for Digital Equipment. The CEO of the company was sure that computers like the Commodore 64 were just “toys” and could not cut into the mini-computer PDP and VAX market.

Commodore felt the same about the IBM-PC because it was so expensive compared to a C-64. Turns out the ability to expand the capabilities of a PC were considered by consumers to be more desirable than the inexpensive price of the C-64 with no ability to expand.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:00:43pm

re: #82 Romantic Heretic

I heard the exact same thing from a computer science PhD in the mid-70s when I asked him about the PCs (that is Apple IIs, PETs and TRS80s) coming onto market.

Sears is particularly ironic seeing as how they pioneered mail-order. I mean, hell……..back in the day, you could mail-order a damn house. They really did have everything under the sun.

A stunning failure of the imagination on the part of Sears’ executives back in the early to mid 1990’s.

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:01:06pm

Dan Bell has several good videos. One of his latest:

DEAD MALL SERIES : The $100 Mall : The Disaster of Pittsburgh Mills

The problem is that the population density is not high enough to support the commercial retail real estate. Real estate scams continue on like always, puffing up the importance of a piece of land, and in the case above, the idea that it would be a good place for a shopping mall.

If Americans were willing to live more closely to each other, if that mall galleria was surrounded by apartments, then it might have done better.

But because of suburbia-madness, Americans live too sparsely.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:02:16pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:03:46pm

re: #82 Romantic Heretic

I heard the exact same thing from a computer science PhD in the mid-70s when I asked him about the PCs (that is Apple IIs, PETs and TRS80s) coming onto market.

It’s instructive to look at the ‘Computers take over the world’ genre over the last 50 years. They’ve gone from “Gigantic mainframe computer becomes sentient and takes over the world” to “Sentient AI develops on the Innertubes and takes over the world”, entirely because of the development of the PC and internet, which wasn’t imagined by the folks who were writing even 30 years ago (think Terminator)

I see it as part of the “Dude, Where’s My Flying Car” phenomenon, where most folks trying to imagine the future extrapolate from the wrong trends.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:04:05pm

re: #86 Dr Lizardo

Sears is particularly ironic seeing as how they pioneered mail-order. I mean, hell……..back in the day, you could mail-order a damn house. They really did have everything under the sun.

A stunning failure of the imagination on the part of Sears’ executives back in the early to mid 1990’s.

My wife and I toured Jesse James’s home in Kearney, Mo. (Jesse James is a distant cousin of my wife, who is a Younger by birth.) The James’s added on a Sears mail-order bedroom to the original house for their mother Zerelda.

(Her family celebrates every year where her brother finally put one over on the Northfield Bank when he bought his house on a foreclosure sale and because they fouled up the paperwork he also got the house next door for no additional money.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:04:07pm

re: #65 Ace Rothstein

Just like Xerox created the first PC with a GUI and a mouse. They never patented it…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:05:15pm

re: #87 freetoken

If Americans were willing to live more closely to each other, if that mall galleria was surrounded by apartments, then it might have done better.

But because of suburbia-madness, Americans live to sparsely.

Could be why shopping malls do better here - for instance, we have a new-ish one, about three years old, here in town called Forum Nova Karolina. It’s nice enough…and right across the way are some very nice apartment units, also built at the same time. And Nova Karolina is very close to the urban core of Ostrava. And it’s also served by easy access to the local streetcar lines.

That’s why you really only see shopping malls in high-density urban areas here. Not the suburbs.

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Nyet  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:05:43pm

re: #83 wrenchwench

The lizards’ little hands are always so cutely touching.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:06:22pm

re: #89 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s instructive to look at the ‘Computers take over the world’ genre over the last 50 years. They’ve gone from “Gigantic mainframe computer becomes sentient and takes over the world” to “Sentient AI develops on the Innertubes and takes over the world”, entirely because of the development of the PC and internet, which wasn’t imagined by the folks who were writing even 30 years ago (think Terminator)

I see it as part of the “Dude, Where’s My Flying Car” phenomenon, where most folks trying to imagine the future extrapolate from the wrong trends.

My mother purchased a handheld Sharp calculator in 1971 that cost about $600. My grandmother (a schoolteacher at the time) brought my mother’s calculator to class to show around, pointing out they would eventually be super-cheap and replace the slide rule.

A parent complained about her telling lies to her kid, and she was admonished a few days later by the school administration.

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:06:53pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

I’ll be able to tell my grandkids about the days when I could walk into a store, pull items off a shelf and put them in a metal cart, pay for them with paper money, and then load them into my car to bring home.

“But grandpa, why would anybody do that when Amazon and Google run our lives?”

Columbus and much of Ohio is about to be Amazoned big time. They are building three different facilities in the Columbus area. Some for management, some for computer/data systems and a big distribution center. Cincinnati is also getting Amazon developments. I wouldn’t doubt something happening in Cleveland too.

I still remember the days when you would hear “Amazon still hasn’t made any money…it’ll never work.” And that was still books only days. The ‘net was still in its infancy so people didn’t understand how it would all tie together. BOOM! 20 years.

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plansbandc  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:07:25pm

re: #83 wrenchwench

That is an amazing beast!!

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:07:51pm

re: #92 Dr Lizardo

There are plenty of shopping malls in San Diego county, but the county has been growing in population for a very long time, and there aren’t that many new large malls put up in the last 10 years. Mostly redesigns of previous shopping areas. And the casino outlet stores.

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Teukka  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:08:11pm

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹

My mother purchased a handheld Sharp calculator in 1971 that cost about $600. My grandmother (a schoolteacher at the time) brought my mother’s calculator to class to show around, pointing out they would eventually be super-cheap and replace the slide rule.

A parent complained about her telling lies to her kid, and she was admonished a few days later by the school administration.

I actually own a slide rule, basically the prepper in me which says I need to have a calculation device not dependent on electronics. I’m on the lookout for a nice abacus too.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:08:25pm

re: #95 ObserverArt

Columbus and much of Ohio is about to be Amazoned big time. They are building three different facilities in the Columbus area. Some for management, some for computer/data systems and a big distribution center. Cincinnati is also getting Amazon developments. I wouldn’t doubt something happening in Cleveland too.

I still remember the days when you would hear “Amazon still hasn’t made any money…it’ll never work.” And that was still books only days. The ‘net was still in its infancy so people didn’t understand how it would all tie together. BOOM! 20 years.

Word is that Amazon is going to be building a distribution center here in the Czech Republic. Near Brno, I do believe, or at least that’s the last I’d heard.

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:09:02pm

re: #91 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just like Xerox created the first PC with a GUI and a mouse. They never patented it…

Rumor says some other guys got a look at it all though and built a little computer company off the ideas.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:09:10pm

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹

[Embedded content]

You and your 64K. Back in my day - ok, actually at the same time with my VIC 20 - we had 5K and we liked it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:09:25pm

re: #96 plansbandc

That is an amazing beast!!

If only it weren’t the color of raw meat…..

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:10:18pm

re: #91 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just like Xerox created the first PC with a GUI and a mouse. They never patented it…

Commodore had a GUI for the 64 later in it’s life (I had the GEOS programme for my C-64), called GEOS, released in 1985.

It primarily suffered from speed: The C-64’s 500k clock speed made GEOS run a bit slowly.

toastytech.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:11:04pm

re: #98 Teukka

I actually own a slide rule, basically the prepper in me which says I need to have a calculation device not dependent on electronics. I’m on the lookout for a nice abacus too.

I still have a slide rule (it used to be my mother’s) that in addition to the usual scales also has electronics scales (and on the back is printed with electronic formulæ).

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:11:48pm

re: #98 Teukka

I actually own a slide rule, basically the prepper in me which says I need to have a calculation device not dependent on electronics. I’m on the lookout for a nice abacus too.

I was given a slide rule by my Super Nerd older brother for my birthday.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:13:01pm

re: #98 Teukka

I actually own a slide rule, basically the prepper in me which says I need to have a calculation device not dependent on electronics. I’m on the lookout for a nice abacus too.

I bought a slide rule in 1983 at a K-Mart with the money I saved up, $1.25. I learned to use it a little bit. A few years ago, my parents gave me the slide rule my grandfather used in the Army in WW2, including the instruction manual.

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:13:21pm

To back up my previous assertion, here is the satellite image of that Pittsburgh Mills shopping center:

google.com

There’s no living structures around the place.

It was built in the countryside.

The wiki entry:
en.wikipedia.org

If someone would surround the place with apartment buildings then they might have customers.

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:13:58pm

re: #89 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s instructive to look at the ‘Computers take over the world’ genre over the last 50 years. They’ve gone from “Gigantic mainframe computer becomes sentient and takes over the world” to “Sentient AI develops on the Innertubes and takes over the world”, entirely because of the development of the PC and internet, which wasn’t imagined by the folks who were writing even 30 years ago (think Terminator)

I see it as part of the “Dude, Where’s My Flying Car” phenomenon, where most folks trying to imagine the future extrapolate from the wrong trends.

Case in point, the endless predictions of the 50s that nuclear power would be widespread and replace much of the common forms of energy generation. Hell, the Big Three each looked at the idea of introducing nuclear power to automobiles, such that Ford built a mock-up and told the press about the idea of swapping out reactors whenever they needed refueling or had issues.

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:15:26pm

re: #108 Targetpractice

Case in point, the endless predictions of the 50s that nuclear power would be widespread and replace much of the common forms of energy generation. Hell, the Big Three each looked at the idea of introducing nuclear power to automobiles, such that Ford built a mock-up and told the press about the idea of swapping out reactors whenever they needed refueling or had issues.

There are always the issues…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:17:45pm

re: #108 Targetpractice

Case in point, the endless predictions of the 50s that nuclear power would be widespread and replace much of the common forms of energy generation. Hell, the Big Three each looked at the idea of introducing nuclear power to automobiles, such that Ford built a mock-up and told the press about the idea of swapping out reactors whenever they needed refueling or had issues.

Chrysler built a gas turbine car back in about 1963 that actually worked. They made a number of them as prototypes, but cool as the idea seemed, it didn’t work all that well as an actual car.

YouTube

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:19:02pm

re: #107 freetoken

To back up my previous assertion, here is the satellite image of that Pittsburgh Mills shopping center:

google.com

There’s no living structures around the place.

It was built in the countryside.

The wiki entry:
en.wikipedia.org

If someone would surround the place with apartment buildings then they might have customers.

I would bet the housing market crashing and the economy going in the toilet just a couple years after it opened wasn’t a whole lot of help

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:20:00pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart

Certainly. But we must not separate the cause from the effect. Places like Pittsburgh Mills Galleria was part of the puffery but made the real estate market so unstable.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:20:12pm

re: #108 Targetpractice

Case in point, the endless predictions of the 50s that nuclear power would be widespread and replace much of the common forms of energy generation. Hell, the Big Three each looked at the idea of introducing nuclear power to automobiles, such that Ford built a mock-up and told the press about the idea of swapping out reactors whenever they needed refueling or had issues.

There was also one nuclear powered commercial ship NS Savannah.

As for C-64’s, they are not dead yet (much like phonographs). As a matter of fact, the original Commodore on-line service Quantum Link has been re-started so you can still put your Commodore on-line (as long as your modem is 1200 baud or less).

orrtech.us (Goes to Quantum Link Reloaded)

Quantum Link is now America On-Line (which kicked Commodore 64s and 128s off its service when Quantum Link was sold).

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:21:03pm

re: #108 Targetpractice

Case in point, the endless predictions of the 50s that nuclear power would be widespread and replace much of the common forms of energy generation. Hell, the Big Three each looked at the idea of introducing nuclear power to automobiles, such that Ford built a mock-up and told the press about the idea of swapping out reactors whenever they needed refueling or had issues.

Ah, yes…….the Ford Nucleon!

One of my students thought I was joking until I pulled up the info for her - then she was all like, “What the hell were they thinking? Who’d think it would be a good idea to be driving your very own personal Chernobyl down the highway?!”

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:21:39pm

America:

We don’t want to live close to each other.
We don’t want to support young families/mothers.
We certainly don’t want foreigners to come in.
But we expect an infinite increase in real estate values.

I guess because we’re exceptional.

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:21:53pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

There are always the issues…

Well remember, while the scientists and generals knew about radiation in the 50s, both tried to downplay it massively and push the idea that the benefits of nuclear power outweighed the downsides. Most of those pushing the “Atomic Future” didn’t see the anti-nuke backlash coming just a decade later.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:23:22pm

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

Ah, yes…….the Ford Nucleon!

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One of my students thought I was joking until I pulled up the info for her - then she was all like, “What the hell were they thinking? Who’d think it would be a good idea to be driving your very own personal Chernobyl down the highway?!”

See also the Toshiba personal nuclear reactor (to power homes and small businesses, proposed in 2012)

cnet.com

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:24:52pm

re: #112 freetoken

Certainly. But we must not separate the cause from the effect. Places like Pittsburgh Mills Galleria was part of the puffery but made the real estate market so unstable.

Agreed. Heck, they probably would have done better by building a prison out there in the middle of nowhere than a mall

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:24:57pm

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

Ah, yes…….the Ford Nucleon!

[Embedded content]

One of my students thought I was joking until I pulled up the info for her - then she was all like, “What the hell were they thinking? Who’d think it would be a good idea to be driving your very own personal Chernobyl down the highway?!”

Well, for one thing, Chernobyl was still 30 years down the road. Hell, Three Mile Island was 20 years in the future. The men in white coats and/or military uniforms were assuring everybody that nuclear power was harmless if handled properly. It was the bolded that ended up killing the fantasies of home nuclear reactors or atomic planes dead as the dodo.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:26:14pm

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

El Camino Chernobyl.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:27:10pm

re: #101 Belafon

You and your 64K. Back in my day - ok, actually at the same time with my VIC 20 - we had 5K and we liked it.

I bought the first generation Mac 128K for $2,495 in 1984. Still remember that you could only run one program at a time on it!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:27:56pm

re: #120 jaunte

El Camino Chernobyl.

LOLOL

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:28:20pm

Back to Kris Kobach’s idea of getting voter info:

It would seem Mr. Kobach is looking for people registered in more than one state. The idea of the last four of an SSN or a birthday would allegedly weed out people with the same name (presumably because those other data points would be different, but that ‘taint necessarily so).

It would appear that most states aren’t going to spend their own money on this nonsense for a couple reasons:

a) money
b) that would be like admitting the state can’t run its own election system [Missouri apparently excepted]

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:28:44pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

Well, for one thing, Chernobyl was still 30 years down the road. Hell, Three Mile Island was 20 years in the future. The men in white coats and/or military uniforms were assuring everybody that nuclear power was harmless if handled properly. It was the bolded that ended up killing the fantasies of home nuclear reactors or atomic planes dead as the dodo.

Handled properly, with the correct kitty litter.

How the wrong cat litter took down a nuclear waste repository

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:30:18pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

Well, for one thing, Chernobyl was still 30 years down the road. Hell, Three Mile Island was 20 years in the future. The men in white coats and/or military uniforms were assuring everybody that nuclear power was harmless if handled properly. It was the bolded that ended up killing the fantasies of home nuclear reactors or atomic planes dead as the dodo.

Exactly. If handled properly.

I’m just trying to imagine the average yutz driving a mobile nuclear reactor running a couple of plutonium fuel rods going down I-5 with “I Can’t Drive 55” blaring on the stereo.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:31:02pm

re: #121 Joe Bacon 🌹

I bought the first generation Mac 128K for $2,495 in 1984. Still remember that you could only run one program at a time on it!

And no hard drive, either, IIRC. Your OS, your word processing program, and all your documents on a single-sided floppy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:31:43pm

re: #121 Joe Bacon 🌹

I bought the first generation Mac 128K for $2,495 in 1984. Still remember that you could only run one program at a time on it!

The first home computer in my family was my sister’s Timex Sinclair. (I don’t remember how much she paid for it.) My first was a HP-40C programmable calculator (using RPN) … the most complicated programme I wrote for it was a programme that could calculate all the astrological positions for a geocentric natal chart. (I used every last byte of memory for that.)

HP at the time had a user forum where you could submit programmes and if they liked them they would pay you cash money (I was paid $50 for about a week’s work on that).

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:32:54pm

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

Back to Kris Kobach’s idea of getting voter info:

It would seem Mr. Kobach is looking for people registered in more than one state. The idea of the last four of an SSN or a birthday would allegedly weed out people with the same name (presumably because those other data points would be different, but that ‘taint necessarily so).

It would appear that most states aren’t going to spend their own money on this nonsense for a couple reasons:

a) money
b) that would be like admitting the state can’t run its own election system [Missouri apparently excepted]

It’s SSNs in connection with birth dates and voting history that really give the game away here. We’ve heard the same BS time and time again: “illegal” buys SSN of a kid, so that when an employer runs it it comes back as legit. It’s only when you compare birth dates that the red flag pops up. So if a voter has a valid SSN linked to a birth date of 4/20/00 but registered and voted 4 years later, then the scent of fishiness becomes absolutely overpowering.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:33:44pm

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

Commodore had a GUI for the 64 later in it’s life (I had the GEOS programme for my C-64), called GEOS, released in 1985.

It primarily suffered from speed: The C-64’s 500k clock speed made GEOS run a bit slowly.

toastytech.com

You guys are giving me the upgrade itch!

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:33:57pm

re: #125 Dr Lizardo

Exactly. If handled properly.

I’m just trying to imagine the average yutz driving a mobile nuclear reactor running a couple of plutonium fuel rods going down I-5 with “I Can’t Drive 55” blaring on the stereo.

It’s the same deal as the idea of flying cars: It’s sounds great until you take a drive on any modern highway and realize at least half the people sharing the road with you are one fuck-up away from a 30 car pile-up.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:37:07pm

This Justin Trudeau is Fidel Castro’s love child meme cracked me up when I first read about it yesterday, and I continue to think it’s funny, but the more I think about it the implication that his lovely and kind mother was a slut royally pisses me off.

But anyway, happy birthday to the land of my grandparents, and on my mother’s side much much further back!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:37:37pm

rawstory.com

Eric Holder, who served as attorney general under former President Barack Obama, posted an eyebrow-raising tweet early on Friday morning in which he told career officials at the FBI and Department of Justice to “be prepared” and “be strong.”

“To the career men & women at DOJ/FBI: your actions and integrity will be unfairly questioned,” Holder wrote. “Be prepared, be strong. Duty. Honor. Country.”

To the career men & women at DOJ/FBI: your actions and integrity will be unfairly questioned. Be prepared, be strong. Duty. Honor. Country.

— Eric Holder (@EricHolder) June 30, 2017

Holder didn’t post any followup tweet after this, and would not say if he had any inside information about something that was about to happen at the DOJ or FBI.

Holder posts fairly infrequently on Twitter, and many of his previous tweets have involved his opposition to Republican efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act, as well as fighting “racial gerrymandering” across the country.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:39:49pm

re: #130 Targetpractice

It’s the same deal as the idea of flying cars: It’s sounds great until you take a drive on any modern highway and realize at least half the people sharing the road with you are one fuck-up away from a 30 car pile-up.

Most drivers can barely manage 2 dimensions and staying between the painted lines. Imagine them in 3 dimensions with no visible boundaries.

That, and if you have a small shunt with another car, you’re stopped on the road way. In mid-air? You’d both plummet to your deaths, not to mention anyone underneath you.

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:40:32pm

When you pack your “commission” with members of the cult of “voter fraud” and put as its head a man whose draconian proposals for dealing with such are well-known, the idea that the conclusions have already been written before the evidence has even been gathered is impossible to shake.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:42:40pm

re: #133 Blind Frog Belly White

Most drivers can barely manage 2 dimensions and staying between the painted lines. Imagine them in 3 dimensions with no visible boundaries.

That, and if you have a small shunt with another car, you’re stopped on the road way. In mid-air? You’d both plummet to your deaths, not to mention anyone underneath you.

That’s what self-driving cars are for. So someone can hack into the computers and fly a flying truck through a crowded air-freeway.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:43:34pm

re: #32 Dr Lizardo

Referencing from downstairs…..this “Dead Mall” episode is about the death of K-Mart. The video creator, Dan Bell, speaks early on in the video about being with his grandfather in a K-Mart cafeteria, and damn, that brought back memories of my childhood in the mid-1970’s; shopping at K-Mart with my parents, the K-Mart cafeteria, the ham sandwiches.

End of an era.

And Blue Light Specials on aisle six!!!

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covfefe  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:44:45pm

BBC chose the best photo possible for this article. Trump leering over Melania making sure she votes for HIM.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:45:45pm

re: #32 Dr Lizardo

Referencing from downstairs…..this “Dead Mall” episode is about the death of K-Mart. The video creator, Dan Bell, speaks early on in the video about being with his grandfather in a K-Mart cafeteria, and damn, that brought back memories of my childhood in the mid-1970’s; shopping at K-Mart with my parents, the K-Mart cafeteria, the ham sandwiches.

[Embedded content]

End of an era.

My parents and I were talking the other day about K-Mart’s ham sandwiches. You could buy a bunch in a tube bag. I loved them.

I also liked the food the cafeteria’s made.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:46:40pm

Well, thanks to the GOP governor of Illinois refusing to sign any budgets lately, it looks like Illinois bonds are about to be downgraded to “junk.”

money.cnn.com

Fiscal conservatism, thy name is not the GOP.

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nines09  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:48:23pm

How do I repost a previous post with pictures and attachments?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:48:43pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

Well, thanks to the GOP governor of Illinois refusing to sign any budgets lately, it looks like Illinois bonds are about to be downgraded to “junk.”

money.cnn.com

Fiscal conservatism, thy name is not the GOP.

But you can bet your ass that the GOP will be blaming this on “those damn librul obstructionists”.

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:49:54pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

Well, thanks to the GOP governor of Illinois refusing to sign any budgets lately, it looks like Illinois bonds are about to be downgraded to “junk.”

money.cnn.com

Fiscal conservatism, thy name is not the GOP.

When it happens, the “serious” pundits will insist that the problem is the not the Republican governor trying to stiff millions of people out of the benefits they were promised or taking a slash-and-burn approach to state budgeting, but Democrats for ever promising those benefits and not agreeing to make “reasonable” cuts to spending.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:51:49pm

re: #131 De Kolta Chair

This Justin Trudeau is Fidel Castro’s love child meme cracked me up when I first read about it yesterday, and I continue to think it’s funny, but the more I think about it the implication that his lovely and kind mother was a slut royally pisses me off.

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But anyway, happy birthday to the land of my grandparents, and on my mother’s side much much further back!

His Mom did have fun.

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covfefe  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:52:47pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

Every republican here is blaming Madigan. Of course.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:52:51pm

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

Ah, yes…….the Ford Nucleon!

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One of my students thought I was joking until I pulled up the info for her - then she was all like, “What the hell were they thinking? Who’d think it would be a good idea to be driving your very own personal Chernobyl down the highway?!”

“Atomic” was once considered cool and futuristic…

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caseyjr  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:54:10pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

Black eyed Susan’s are small.

What we often call black-eyed Susans are rudbeckia.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:55:07pm

I was just thinking of the oft-repeated line from Conservatives: “The Founding Fathers would not recognize this country!”, and I was thinking…

Why? Paved roads?

No!

Airplanes?

No!

Amazingly tall buildings?

No!

The fact that everything West of the Mississippi doesn’t belong to France or Spain?

No!

No slavery?

No!

I could go on, but it’s like they think the FF would take 220 years of changes in everything else totally in stride, but the not beating up gays thing would be just TOO MUCH!!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2017 • 1:56:43pm

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And Blue Light Specials on aisle six!!!

Heh, I remember those.

Well, day shift here for me has come to an end. Good night, Lizards.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:03:49pm

legacy.com

Peter Smith’s funeral home is named RT Funerals.

Is that for retweets, or for Russia Today?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:04:16pm
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scottslemmons  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:06:43pm

re: #86 Dr Lizardo

Sears is particularly ironic seeing as how they pioneered mail-order. I mean, hell……..back in the day, you could mail-order a damn house. They really did have everything under the sun.

A stunning failure of the imagination on the part of Sears’ executives back in the early to mid 1990’s.

From Business Insider: Inside Sears’ death spiral: How an iconic American brand has been driven to the edge of bankruptcy. They put the blame squarely on its Ayn Rand worshiping CEO, Eddie Lampert.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:08:16pm

re: #143 Stanley Sea

His Mom did have fun.

Indeed, and much more fun than, say, Pat Nixon. Though I’ve had a soft spot, if not pity, for poor Pat Nixon since I read in a biography of her shitheel husband that the GOP la-de-dah set frequently laughed at her homemade dresses, often loud enough that she could hear.

Like many women who grew up in the Depression, my mother sewed her own dresses (usually from Butterfield patterns), and she was one stylish dish.

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:08:28pm

re: #152 scottslemmons

From Business Insider: Inside Sears’ death spiral: How an iconic American brand has been driven to the edge of bankruptcy. They put the blame squarely on its Ayn Rand worshiping CEO, Eddie Lampert.

Well, Sears was already in decline when Lampert took over. So it’s more fair to say that the fuckhead did little more than piss away the time that Sears might have used to reinvent itself.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:09:49pm

re: #152 scottslemmons

From Business Insider: Inside Sears’ death spiral: How an iconic American brand has been driven to the edge of bankruptcy. They put the blame squarely on its Ayn Rand worshiping CEO, Eddie Lampert.

What is it about libertarians that they can’t seem to run a business? It’s almost like libertarianism is a religion rather than an economic model… .

I’m out for now. Time for a nap… .

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:12:11pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:13:50pm

re: #147 wrenchwench

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:17:49pm

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹

See also the Toshiba personal nuclear reactor (to power homes and small businesses, proposed in 2012)

cnet.com

‘mouse, were you ever aboard any of the Navy’s nuke powered craft?

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:18:44pm

re: #157 FormerDirtDart

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:19:05pm

re: #157 FormerDirtDart

I’m in love!
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stpaulbear  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:20:09pm

I had a notice on my door this morning that UPS tried to deliver a package that I need to sign for. They’ve tried to deliver it twice while I was at work, and they’re going to do the same on Monday so I won’t be home again. I’ll have to go to the UPS warehouse to get it.

Weird thing is, I have no Idea what this package is. It’s from a company in Van Nuys CA that I’ve never heard of. I haven’t ordered anything, there’s nothing unexplained on my charge cards, and I have no idea why I need to sign for it. I have no idea what the value is. I only know it was shipped out of Van Nuys CA and weighs one ounce. I may have dealt with an Amazon seller in Van Nuys before for an order less than $10. It’s a mystery.

I suppose that there’s no way to know what it is without signing for it. I’m half wondering if I should refuse to sign for it.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:20:39pm

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

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OH GOD!!!!!!!!!!

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:22:47pm

re: #159 wrenchwench

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:23:30pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

Well, thanks to the GOP governor of Illinois refusing to sign any budgets lately, it looks like Illinois bonds are about to be downgraded to “junk.”

money.cnn.com

Fiscal conservatism, thy name is not the GOP.

Major construction work on main streets through University of Illinois have come to a grinding halt as funds have dried up.

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TedStriker  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:26:01pm

re: #110 Blind Frog Belly White

Chrysler built a gas turbine car back in about 1963 that actually worked. They made a number of them as prototypes, but cool as the idea seemed, it didn’t work all that well as an actual car.

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Video

Cool bit of trivia: Chrysler built those gas turbine cars all the way through the late 70s, when they were told to kill it in order to get their government bailout, but the research that they did into gas turbine propulsion for land vehicles is what got us the gas turbine powertrain in the M1 Abrams tank (which was designed and initially manufactured by Chrysler Defense, until CD was bought by General Dynamics in the early 80s).

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:30:52pm

re: #161 stpaulbear

Weird thing is, I have no Idea what this package is. It’s from a company in Van Nuys CA that I’ve never heard of. …mystery.

Porn capitol of the universe.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:32:06pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

Well, thanks to the GOP governor of Illinois refusing to sign any budgets lately, it looks like Illinois bonds are about to be downgraded to “junk.”

money.cnn.com

Fiscal conservatism, thy name is not the GOP.

re: #164 Barefoot Grin

Major construction work on main streets through University of Illinois have come to a grinding halt as funds have dried up.

You know, this makes me wonder what the GOP governor of Illinois has been doing while the GOP president continuously tweets about high levels of crime in Illinois’ largest municipality

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:33:05pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:33:53pm

“But is it true?”

Why, it’s every bit as true as everything else he says. In other words - No.

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:36:18pm

re: #169 Blind Frog Belly White

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“But is it true?”

Why, it’s every bit as true as everything else he says. In other words - No.

Debate: do I want to read a Maureen Dowd article about Trump? Hmmm. This is tough.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:37:12pm
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:42:47pm

re: #121 Joe Bacon 🌹

I bought the first generation Mac 128K for $2,495 in 1984. Still remember that you could only run one program at a time on it!

I’ve still got the motherboard for my Apple II. I spent about $1,200 on it, plus another $500 for a TV that would plug straight into it so I wouldn’t get the interference the CPU would cause with an RF interface.

Damn, I’m getting old.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:46:16pm

re: #121 Joe Bacon 🌹

I bought the first generation Mac 128K for $2,495 in 1984. Still remember that you could only run one program at a time on it!

My wife asked me for one of those instead of an engagement ring. It’s stopped working, but she still has it.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:46:23pm

re: #169 Blind Frog Belly White

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“But is it true?”

Why, it’s every bit as true as everything else he says. In other words - No.

I wish his fans could ever get it through their thick, Fritz-helmeted skulls; the “MAGA” part where they get to starve, oppress, and maybe kill everyone they deem unworthy of life (the poor, the browns, the gays) may be great sport for a year or two, but if we skip ahead, this just ends with Dear Leader slinking off to the bunker to kill himself, leaving the rest of humanity to pick up the pieces. There ain’t gonna be no Thousand Year Mar-a-Lago.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:48:34pm

You can probably find a bigger piece of garbage to hangout with than Robert Jeffress
But, you’d have to work harder than Pres* Trump is accustomed too

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:49:21pm

re: #171 FormerDirtDart

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Just wait ‘til ‘Bear’ gets here. Updings all over!

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:50:46pm

re: #155 Anymouse 🌹

What is it about libertarians that they can’t seem to run a business? It’s almost like libertarianism is a religion rather than an economic model… .

I’m out for now. Time for a nap… .

It is a religion. The same way Marxism is a religion. In fact they are the same religion. The anarchists, I mean libertarians, took Marxism and inverted it so bad is good and good is bad.

Like Satanism did with Catholicism.

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stpaulbear  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:50:52pm

re: #166 freetoken

Porn capitol of the universe.

Oh great.
e_e

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:52:41pm

re: #176 wrenchwench

Just wait ‘til ‘Bear’ gets here. Updings all over!

I just looked at the tweet again, and thought “7 puppies hanging on a line”
so, of course this came to mind…

There’s Something About Mary - 7 minute abs

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:53:27pm

re: #98 Teukka

I actually own a slide rule, basically the prepper in me which says I need to have a calculation device not dependent on electronics. I’m on the lookout for a nice abacus too.

I’ve been wanting one of those giant classroom types teachers used to instruct whole classes in the use of the slide rule. Turns out there are a fair number of them around. Apparently out of pure inertia, many school districts ended up storing them long enough for the potential collector value to be realized. “Slide Rule Instruction Guide, Photos And Information Etc.”

Pickett manufactured large slide rules for mounting in the class room. They came in 4 foot and 7 foot versions. The stock and slide are of plywood (tongue and grooved), the end brackets are sheet aluminum. The cursor consisted of pine with aluminum paint, with a clear plastic lens. Both sizes came with metal eye loops for hanging from a wall or ceiling.

I am not sure I remember how to use a slide rule.
If I had a 7 footer in my den, I could probably re-learn pretty fast though.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:53:56pm

re: #100 ObserverArt

Rumor says some other guys got a look at it all though and built a little computer company off the ideas.

That was the story I always heard. Xerox upper management was too tied to the old ways and could not see the future their engineers developed. And this management forced the tech team to allow Steve Jobs to view their facilities and see their accomplishments. Steve Jobs may have been unethical and a terrible person but he was a true visionary — unlike most high level management at established corporations. They only see the past and have no insight into the future.

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:56:19pm

re: #181 Hecuba’s daughter

That was the story I always heard. Xerox upper management was too tied to the old ways and could not see the future their engineers developed. And this management forced the tech team to allow Steve Jobs to view their facilities and see their accomplishments. Steve Jobs may have been unethical and a terrible person but he was a true visionary — unlike most high level management at established corporations. They only see the past and have no insight into the future.

Or too busy hanging onto the present. Their jobs. Protection paralysis.

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BeachDem  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:56:43pm

re: #175 FormerDirtDart

You can probably find a bigger piece of garbage to hangout with than Robert Jeffress
But, you’d have to work harder than Pres* Trump is accustomed too

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So he went up to New Jersey for less than a day? How fiscally responsible.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 2:59:01pm

re: #183 BeachDem

So he went up to New Jersey for less than a day? How fiscally responsible.

I wonder if he is taking one of the smaller aircraft available, or the 747.
And, now that I’ve typed that I know to obvious answer.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:02:58pm

A double phallic…
yuck, yuck…

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:08:44pm

He’s either sitting in the crapper on AF1, or he’s riding alone on the way to the airport…

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:16:20pm

General Failure - The Atlantic

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KerFuFFler  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:17:00pm

re: #153 De Kolta Chair

Like many women who grew up in the Depression, my mother sewed her own dresses (usually from Butterfield patterns), and she was one stylish dish.

My mom is also a child of the depression (b. 1927) and sewed almost all her clothes and ours while we were growing up. My sister and I were regularly teased about our clothes since everybody else was wearing store bought stuff. Some of our outfits were terrific though.

I think the pattern company you were thinking of was Butterick?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:17:51pm
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The Spite House  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:19:30pm

re: #189 Charles Johnson

Wow, President’s can make corporations change their names now?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:19:56pm

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

Thus proving once and for all that it’s the middle management and executives that are the problem, and their gross overcompensation needs to be rectified at the earliest opportunity.

/half

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:20:09pm
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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:22:48pm

Trump knows he’s in a race to discredit any media that criticizes him before the Russian collusion story gets completely pieced together.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:26:42pm
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BeachDem  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:27:17pm

re: #189 Charles Johnson

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I am thinking about changing the name #FakeNews CNN to #FraudNewsCNN!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:30:44pm

re: #188 KerFuFFler

My mom is also a child of the depression (b. 1927) and sewed almost all her clothes and ours while we were growing up. My sister and I were regularly teased about our clothes since everybody else was wearing store bought stuff. Some of our outfits were terrific though.

I think the pattern company you were thinking of was Butterick?

Oh my. I still remember my mother pinning those patterns to the fabric to make my sister’s dresses. I had two older brothers, so it was hand-me-downs entirely for me.

“use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.”

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Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:32:21pm

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel

I’ve been wanting one of those giant classroom types teachers used to instruct whole classes in the use of the slide rule. Turns out there are a fair number of them around. Apparently out of pure inertia, many school districts ended up storing them long enough for the potential collector value to be realized. “Slide Rule Instruction Guide, Photos And Information Etc.”

I am not sure I remember how to use a slide rule.
If I had a 7 footer in my den, I could probably re-learn pretty fast though.

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That would be very cool. Get one!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:34:09pm

re: #183 BeachDem

So he went up to New Jersey for less than a day? How fiscally responsible.

He’s done with golf

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:39:13pm

Fake news!

Not a newborn, it’s a hatchling.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:41:55pm

re: #200 wrenchwench

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Fake news!

Not a newborn, it’s a hatchling.

Did somebody say hatchling?

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:43:00pm

re: #201 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Did somebody say hatchling?

This one did not bring beer.

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Teukka  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:43:04pm

re: #201 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Did somebody say hatchling?

Where? Where?

*looks around*

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:45:39pm

re: #200 wrenchwench

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Fake news!

Not a newborn, it’s a hatchling.

Was the cute little fur ball abandoned or something? Seems odd to see one so extremely young being handled. So cute, those little talons.

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The Spite House  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:47:05pm
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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:48:54pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:49:50pm

re: #204 ObserverArt

Was the cute little fur ball abandoned or something? Seems odd to see one so extremely young being handled. So cute, those little talons.

They don’t even ‘tweet’. They go ‘who’. But I found it in a tweet. Perhaps a fall-out-of-the-nestling.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:51:33pm

Jesus, what a whack job this guy is!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:52:16pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

Jesus, what a whack job this guy is!

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Donald Trump is so amazing, he’s redefining presidential. All future presidents will follow in his footsteps. ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:52:42pm

I have a Mac question if anyone can please help. Macbook Pro 2011, current OS. Running Safari, whenever I go here to LGF, the fan runs wild and the keystrokes slow to a crawl. It can take 5-6 seconds for the characters to show up. The activity monitor shows that this page is running at 356%. Anyone?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:52:57pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:56:54pm

re: #210 Ace Rothstein

I have a Mac question if anyone can please help. Macbook Pro 2011, current OS. Running Safari, whenever I go here to LGF, the fan runs wild and the keystrokes slow to a crawl. It can take 5-6 seconds for the characters to show up. The activity monitor shows that this page is running at 356%. Anyone?

My guess is a Javascript script gone wild. Charles, any ideas?

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The Spite House  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:57:46pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

He’s not a President, he’s a “Modern-day President.”

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BeachDem  Jul 1, 2017 • 3:57:58pm

re: #205 The Spite House

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When he does these stream of consciousness tweets, all I can think of is:

You talkin’ to me? (Taxi Driver, 1976)

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:00:10pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

Jesus, what a whack job this guy is!

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It is time to call it, a TKO. He can no longer defend himself and he’s punch drunk.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:01:02pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:06:01pm
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freetoken  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:07:26pm

re: #217 Ace Rothstein

Donald never fails to deliver.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:10:18pm

re: #218 freetoken

Donald never fails to deliver.

I have a feeling “vagina” wasn’t the word he used.

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The Spite House  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:16:50pm
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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:25:47pm

Future site of the Great TrumpWall.

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stpaulbear  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:29:05pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:31:14pm

Well….. Food for thought. How many Democrats have ever swapped affiliations to vote against someone in the other party? I do it in Texas without hesitation.

This would have to happen.

The guiding light on this is who thinking people decide to run for the Dems. If it’s Bernie and his purity police then we’re screwed. The DNC needs to get their asses in gear and start floating some names out there.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:37:44pm

re: #223 Dave In Austin

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Well….. Food for thought. How many Democrats have ever swapped affiliations to vote against someone in the other party? I do it in Texas without hesitation.

This would have to happen.

The guiding light on this is who thinking people decide to run for the Dems. If it’s Bernie and his purity police then we’re screwed. The DNC needs to get their asses in gear and start floating some names out there.

So, you want Republicans to have 3.5 years to go after the Democrat?

I think the normal time frame is good enough.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:38:26pm

re: #220 The Spite House

Pretty sure he would have had to declare himself a Nazi to serve.

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BeachDem  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:42:32pm

re: #223 Dave In Austin

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Well….. Food for thought. How many Democrats have ever swapped affiliations to vote against someone in the other party? I do it in Texas without hesitation.

This would have to happen.

The guiding light on this is who thinking people decide to run for the Dems. If it’s Bernie and his purity police then we’re screwed. The DNC needs to get their asses in gear and start floating some names out there.

I think Mika’s father put the “Joe is a serious and smart man” argument to rest quite nicely back in 2008 when he said:

“you have such a stunningly superficial knowledge of what went on that it’s almost embarrassing to listen to you.”

Zbigniew Insults Scarborough: ‘You’re So Superficial It’s Embarrassing’

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:43:55pm

re: #226 BeachDem

Look at Mika’s reaction at :09.

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Interesting Times  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:44:12pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

♫ He is the very model of a modern presidential,
Using twitter to remark upon the most inconsequential,
But when you think about it, at least it’s preferential
To posting other crap that could cause crises existential ♫

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BeachDem  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:45:55pm

re: #227 Ace Rothstein

Look at the female host’s reaction at :09.

Mika, thinking, “Joe, honey, don’t argue with my dad—he’s really smart and he will make you look like more of a fool than you already do.”

Wonder what her father thought about the two getting together.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:46:59pm

re: #224 Belafon

So, you want Republicans to have 3.5 years to go after the Democrat?

I think the normal time frame is good enough.

“We were always at war with the Democrats.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:48:23pm

re: #131 De Kolta Chair

This Justin Trudeau is Fidel Castro’s love child meme cracked me up when I first read about it yesterday, and I continue to think it’s funny, but the more I think about it the implication that his lovely and kind mother was a slut royally pisses me off.

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But anyway, happy birthday to the land of my grandparents, and on my mother’s side much much further back!

Sounds like the same bullshit Republicans said about Obama’s father being Frank Marshall Davis or Malcolm X…

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:51:27pm
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Varek Raith  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:58:39pm

re: #232 jaunte

Spoiler that!
:P

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Interesting Times  Jul 1, 2017 • 4:58:59pm
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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:04:50pm

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:05:42pm

Currently reading Suetonius’ 12 Caesars. Just finished a Cicero biography.

I fucking hate, hate, how relevant these two texts are to our current political situation..

There’s always a crowd you can sway by appealing to ugliness. Bullying tactics, which overlap with more intimate abuse tactics, play well to an audience. And that’s what the president is doing: the direct unfiltered connection of Twitter allows him to play the heel, but also have a mob that acclaim his pettiness, making it sting more and seem more “true.”

He’s not even lying with intent, he’s trying for anything that hurts.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:08:33pm

This is horrible……..

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:09:18pm

re: #237 Dave In Austin

This is horrible……..

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Looks like that $2T, 16-year war is winning us a lot of friends.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:10:14pm

re: #237 Dave In Austin

Great optics for July 4, huh?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:11:33pm

re: #228 Interesting Times

♫ He is the very model of a modern presidential,
Using twitter to remark upon the most inconsequential,
But when you think about it, at least it’s preferential
To posting other crap that could cause crises existential ♫

If Gilbert & Sullivan were still around they would tear His Ass-Holeyness to pieces!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:14:11pm

re: #239 Eclectic Cyborg

Great optics for July 4, huh?

Land of the free and the home of the chickenshit pansy-ass wimps who close their borders because they’re afraid of a few women in burqas.

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piratedan  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:18:23pm

i guess I have a hard time knowing what’s worse… that our President spends hours each day spewing nonsense and fighting petty battles that are supposed to be above the station that he was elected to…

or the fact that he doesn’t spend this time trying to actually do the damn job, attempting to learn something and promote the interests of the country, instead it seems to be about him, all the time, what is in HIS best interests…

repay those Russian loans… gives Vlad what he wants
make sure he can get elected again, well lets make sure that those that didn’t vote for me can’t vote for anyone else
keep those fundies happy… give ‘em Gorsuch
keep the GOP rich guys happy… give ‘em their tax cuts…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:20:09pm

This is the first year I’m ashamed to see the flag flying. I see it on a car, I think Trump humper. I see it on a front lawn and I think about how freedoms have been violated, are under assault right now.

I want to fly a flag, but upside down. Distress by way of the Constitutional crisis.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:25:44pm

re: #243 Unshaken Defiance

No.

I’m flying my flag proudly, perhaps tomorrow. Certainly on Tuesday. Fuck the Trumpsters and their Trumpster-fire politics. They may be in power, but this is just as much my country as it is theirs, and be damned if I’m going to give it up without a serious fight. Here I make my stand; come at me.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:26:48pm
246
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:27:34pm

re: #101 Belafon

You and your 64K. Back in my day - ok, actually at the same time with my VIC 20 - we had 5K and we liked it.

Back in the really early days, my first personal computer was a Sinclair ZX81.

247
The Spite House  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:28:11pm
248
Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:28:56pm

re: #244 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’ll put mine right after this guy is out of office.
Edit-Might not be the most popular form of protest. But it should spark some conversation in the yard.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:32:59pm

re: #248 Unshaken Defiance

I’ll put mine right after this guy is out of office.

My loyalty to the US is not contingent on whether a drooling moron or a smart lady in a pantsuit is sitting behind the Resolute desk. I will fly my flag with pride and the conservative right wing can suck it. I’m a patriotic Democrat and I will take you all on!

250
Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:33:12pm

re: #244 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

No.

I’m flying my flag proudly, perhaps tomorrow. Certainly on Tuesday. Fuck the Trumpsters and their Trumpster-fire politics. They may be in power, but this is just as much my country as it is theirs, and be damned if I’m going to give it up without a serious fight. Here I make my stand; come at me.

Glad we are on the same side, just expressing differently.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:34:48pm
252
bratwurst  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:35:02pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:35:15pm

re: #249 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m as loyal to the country, the constitution, as ever. Within the law of the land I am disloyal af to this so called President, this shallow pretender.

254
FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:39:41pm

Heh, the Doctor mentions Donald Trump is season finale

255
Ace Rothstein  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:39:42pm

re: #247 The Spite House

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bratwurst  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:40:10pm
257
Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:48:45pm

I still and always will say that Val Kilmer’s Doc Holliday in Wyatt Earp is the best thing he ever did.

258
jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:49:14pm

re: #255 Ace Rothstein

I recall there was a little blood spilled over ethnicity, too.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:49:45pm

re: #249 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My flag is out right next to my “Resist” sign in the yard.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:50:41pm
261
covfefe  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:51:20pm

re: #257 Dave In Austin

I still and always will say that Val Kilmer’s Doc Holliday in Wyatt Earp is the best thing he ever did.

Blasphemy. Nick Rivers.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:51:43pm

I had an app issue with my MacBook Pro. I just got off the phone and some old certificates were the cause of the problem. They have been deleted and thing are running normally. A big thank you to Apple. :)

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:51:49pm

re: #255 Ace Rothstein

I think they mean “blood” in the sense of common familial/clan relation.

(Which is also wrong. Most nations weren’t formed by affiliation, and rulers generally had to work, often across generations, to create national identities. I mean, just look at the fricking history of…most of Europe. “French” wasn’t a thing until generations of social control made “French” a meaningful construct.)

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:52:45pm

re: #261 covfefe

Blasphemy. Nick Rivers.

Chris Knight.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:53:25pm

re: #257 Dave In Austin

I still and always will say that Val Kilmer’s Doc Holliday in Wyatt Earp is the best thing he ever did.

Tombstone.
He later played Wyatt Earp

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TedStriker  Jul 1, 2017 • 5:59:44pm

re: #261 covfefe

Blasphemy. Nick Rivers.

Double blasphemy…Kilmer’s best role was Chris Knight.

I will say that his Holliday and Rivers roles are definitely tied for second, though.

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TedStriker  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:00:03pm

re: #264 Belafon

Chris Knight.

Hey, GMTA.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:00:25pm

Well, it is Independence Day weekend

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TedStriker  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:03:20pm

re: #257 Dave In Austin

I still and always will say that Val Kilmer’s Doc Holliday in Wyatt Earp Tombstone is the best thing he ever did.

“I’m your huckleberry.”

I’m your huckleberry Tombstone scene

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:03:48pm

re: #268 FormerDirtDart

Irresistible.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:03:50pm
272
Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:05:53pm
273
jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:06:34pm

And Trump thinks he’s working hard.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:09:34pm

re: #263 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

I think they mean “blood” in the sense of common familial/clan relation.

(Which is also wrong. Most nations weren’t formed by affiliation, and rulers generally had to work, often across generations, to create national identities. I mean, just look at the fricking history of…most of Europe. “French” wasn’t a thing until generations of social control made “French” a meaningful construct.)

That was particularly gauling to the Normans.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:10:34pm

re: #274 Decatur Deb

I see what you did there in three parts.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:12:06pm

My absolute favorite scene of “The Godfather.” Barzini: “Certainly he can present a bill for such services. After all, we are not communists.”

Godfather-Meeting of the five families

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Decatur Deb  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:12:43pm

re: #275 jaunte

I see what you did there in three parts.

France might be one nation, but I wouldn’t breton it.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:14:48pm
279
jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:14:59pm
280
Jebediah, RBG  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:15:42pm

re: #257 Dave In Austin

I still and always will say that Val Kilmer’s Doc Holliday in Wyatt Earp is the best thing he ever did.

OK maybe but Chris Knight (Real Genius) was great (and if you ever watched Psych, a lot of the Sean Spencer character was based on it - I assume that is why they had the Sean character be such a fanboy of Kilmer.)

ETA: I see that I am both slow and unoriginal…good thing I’m OK with that!

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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:15:45pm

re: #269 TedStriker

Thx, Yes… I’ve just been busy watchin…

And this

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:15:59pm

re: #279 jaunte

Oh, not that shit again.

283
jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:16:51pm

re: #282 Ace Rothstein

Trump’s golden oldies.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:16:57pm

re: #264 Belafon

Chris Knight.

Yes!

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:16:58pm
286
FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:17:56pm

OK, it’s settled, mugshots make you look real scary…

He doesn’t look nearly as ominous here

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:18:03pm
288
Decatur Deb  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:18:10pm

re: #279 jaunte

“We’re going to start saying ‘Merry Christmas’ again,” says Pres Trump, in outreach to Christian supporters.

Hope he makes us say “Pull my finger”, too.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:19:00pm
290
Belafon  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:21:42pm

I’m going to start saying Merry Christmas in September.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:21:59pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

An immediate example:

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Decatur Deb  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:22:19pm

re: #290 Belafon

I’m going to start saying Merry Christmas in September.

Just don’t wear white shoes.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:22:57pm

re: #1 Citizen K

How long will it take the media forget yet another attack on their own and treat Trump like a serious, thoughtful leader rather than the monomaniacal, demented, living shitstain on our country’s reputation?

The media has always treated Trump like a serious, thoughtful leader so I’m not understanding your question. They’ve normalized him from the get go. The very fact that they participate in the press briefing farces, many of which are conducted without audio or video, says it all.

294
Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:23:53pm
295
Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:24:25pm

I’ll never say Merry Christmas again…..

I’m a Happy Holidays kinda guy.

296
The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:24:49pm

re: #291 jaunte

They will always claim that what they’re doing is self defense. It’s what authoritarians do.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:24:57pm

re: #294 Charles Johnson

Liberals need to learn how to fight back against this nefarious co-opting technique. We get stung by it OVER AND OVER and never learn.

Can you put an entire administration on “GAZE”?

298
ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:26:33pm

re: #287 jaunte

Steve Kopack ✔ @SteveKopack
Trump just now said the US did “very well there” at Battle of the Bulge, which “was a big one”
9:11 PM - 1 Jul 2017
17 17 Retweets 23 23 likes

He comes off having the knowledge of a lazy 4th grade schoolkid doing a book report on The History of the United States having never read it.

299
FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:29:06pm
300
Barefoot Grin  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:29:23pm

re: #298 ObserverArt

He comes off having the knowledge of a lazy 4th grade schoolkid doing a book report on The History of the United States having never read it.

A lot of people don’t know that Andrew Jackson was very disappointed about what happened with the Civil War.

301
Belafon  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:29:54pm

re: #291 jaunte

He’s talking about politics.

302
jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:31:24pm
303
Belafon  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:32:44pm

re: #294 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Serious question: how would you counter this one? Presenting facts doesn’t fix it.

304
Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:33:02pm
305
Patricia Kayden  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:33:59pm

re: #279 jaunte

Neat how Trump is concerned about fake issues when he’s about to take healthcare access away from 22 million Americans.

306
TedStriker  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:34:05pm

re: #280 Jebediah, RBG

OK maybe but Chris Knight (Real Genius) was great (and if you ever watched Psych, a lot of the Sean Spencer character was based on it - I assume that is why they had the Sean character be such a fanboy of Kilmer.)

Knight: “Self-realization. I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, “… I drank what?”“

307
ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:36:36pm

How long before they get Donny locked into a room upstairs in the White House and we never really see much of him again? Sure, they will let him out from time to time for a wave to the crowd or an appearance at some event but overall he is “controlled” heavily and the staff and family take over and run things.

308
jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:36:55pm

re: #305 Patricia Kayden

He’s flooding the zone while he tries to help his giant tax cut sneak through.

309
Belafon  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:41:45pm

re: #308 jaunte

He’s flooding the zone while he tries to help his giant tax cut sneak through.

He doesn’t think that hard. He just wants it to be all about him. Congressional republicans are just trying to take advantage of it.

310
jaunte  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:42:34pm

re: #309 Belafon

I think he’s cunning enough to know he’s going to get millions in the deal.

311
Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:42:45pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

312
Barefoot Grin  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:43:07pm
313
FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:44:02pm

Every day it is proved yet again that the administration is a dysfunctional clusterfuck

314
Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:44:58pm
315
Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:48:51pm
316
Amory Blaine  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:49:12pm

Kmart used to have animals.

317
De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:52:17pm

Cool clipping from the Name Droppings Department:

My wife has been working as a part-time chef for the past year for a well-known theatre director/acting teacher who will remain nameless and who’ll be spending the next couple of weeks on the west coast, mostly in the City of Angels, to promote his latest book. To make a long story even longer, one of his Julliard students from at least thirty years ago e-mailed him with an invite to a party with many of his former students while he was in town. Well, my wife’s client, a swell guy in his mid-nineties, didn’t recognize his former student’s name and asked my wife to google him, and look who it turned out to be:

The guy on the right

My wife immediately said, “That’s Eugene Bradford from Days of Our Lives and Q from STNG! You can’t turn this invite down, and bring back as much gossip as you can remember!”

318
Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:53:21pm

re: #307 ObserverArt

How long before they get Donny locked into a room upstairs in the White House and we never really see much of him again? Sure, they will let him out from time to time for a wave to the crowd or an appearance at some event but overall he is “controlled” heavily and the staff and family take over and run things.

We are not supposed to need or have a Regent.

319
piratedan  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:53:21pm

re: #257 Dave In Austin

dunno, he had a pretty good turn in Real Genius too

320
prairiefire  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:54:50pm

re: #317 De Kolta Chair

So cool! Got a glimpse of him at our comic con a couple of years ago. He seemed like a fun guy. Bet he will put on a spread for him!

321
Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 6:55:09pm

Look at her profile bio.

322
Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:00:09pm
323
ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:02:14pm

re: #322 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔ @Green_Footballs
Mass shootings in Bronx and Little Rock - not a single word from Trump.

And the reason is obvious. He can’t blame them on Muslims.
9:59 PM - 1 Jul 2017
6 6 Retweets 7 7 likes

And he can’t blame them on guns.

324
De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:02:31pm

re: #320 prairiefire

I have no doubt he’s going to have the time of his life!

325
prairiefire  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:03:51pm

re: #324 De Kolta Chair

Probably really good gossip, too.

326
Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:05:04pm

Must read

327
TedStriker  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:07:17pm

re: #317 De Kolta Chair

Cool clipping from the Name Droppings Department:

My wife has been working as a part-time chef for the past year for a well-known theatre director/acting teacher who will remain nameless and who’ll be spending the next week in the City of Angels to promote his latest book. To make a long story even longer, one of his Julliard students from at least thirty years ago e-mailed him with an invite to a party with many of his former students while he was in LA. Well, my wife’s client, a swell guy in his nineties, didn’t recognize his former student’s name and asked my wife to google him, and look who it turned out to be:

[Embedded content]

My wife immediately said, “That’s Eugene Bradford from Days of Our Lives and Q from STNG. You can’t turn this invite down, and bring back as much gossip as you can remember!”

Ooohhh, a chance to meet John de Lancie? That would be cool.

328
FormerDirtDart  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:07:31pm

Maybe, sorta, a spoiler…
Doctor?
Doctor who?

329
Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:11:31pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:12:10pm

re: #325 prairiefire

Probably really good gossip, too.

If I hear anything even approaching juicy I will dish!

331
Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:12:16pm
332
mmmirele  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:13:18pm

re: #331 Charles Johnson

So am I—and I’ve never followed any of their accounts.

I will wear it as a badge of honor.

333
De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:13:40pm

re: #188 KerFuFFler

I think the pattern company you were thinking of was Butterick?

Butterick, that’s it! ;-)

334
Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:14:16pm
335
Schweppes7  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:16:27pm

re: #326 Stanley Sea

Thanks for posting this. Really fascinating read, gripping from start to finish!

336
Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:18:23pm

re: #335 Schweppes7

Thanks for posting this. Really fascinating read, gripping from start to finish!

Right? Amazing.

337
Schweppes7  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:20:30pm

re: #336 Stanley Sea

I was worried at first it was just going to be depressing but it ended up being a strange and awesome blend of depressing, frustrating, uplifting, and kind of cathartic.

338
Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:26:50pm

re: #337 Schweppes7

He took a different path, one that proved to be correct - don’t grovel, call them out on their hatred & hypocrisy.

339
Barefoot Grin  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:31:53pm

re: #326 Stanley Sea

Must read

[Embedded content]

Oh no. Must be dust specks in my eyes.

340
Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2017 • 7:36:28pm

Going up!

341
BeachDem  Jul 1, 2017 • 8:00:53pm

re: #279 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Apparently he just recycled his Liberty University speech from May.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 1, 2017 • 8:17:38pm

re: #243 Unshaken Defiance

This is the first year I’m ashamed to see the flag flying. I see it on a car, I think Trump humper. I see it on a front lawn and I think about how freedoms have been violated, are under assault right now.

I want to fly a flag, but upside down. Distress by way of the Constitutional crisis.

[Embedded content]

I’m putting out a flag of Russia.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 2, 2017 • 6:52:19am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

Back in the really early days, my first personal computer was a Sinclair ZX81.

Mine was a TI-99A


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