Video: John Oliver Takes Apart the Far Right Sinclair Broadcast Group

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Here’s another brilliant long-form piece by John Oliver on the disturbingly influential and ubiquitous Sinclair Broadcast Group, a far right propaganda outlet that controls a vast media empire in the US — an empire that’s getting even larger.

Sinclair Broadcast Group is the largest owner of local TV stations in the country. That’s alarming considering that they often inject political views into local news.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:39:56pm

But the mainstream media is all Liberal, that’s what the conservative media and all my conservative friends say.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:43:12pm

According to the folks over at TPM, the Senate GOP are so desperate to get a bill passed and not receive the blame next year for the failure of Trumpcare that they’re basically pushing the CBO to come up with reports based purely upon hypotheticals. Case in point:

Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY), the fourth-highest ranking Republican in the Senate, told reporters that after grilling the CBO’s leaders at the weekly GOP luncheon, he wants them to produce a report that shows “that the preponderance of the people who would not be insured were not actually losing insurance.”

“Because it’s a free country, they would choose, because we eliminate the individual mandate, to not buy insurance,” he said.

That’s the modern GOP in a nutshell: “I’m not robbing you, I’m just giving you the choice to live without your valuables.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:44:01pm

re: #1 Sir John Barron

But the mainstream media is all Liberal, that’s what the conservative media and all my conservative friends say.

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Well, the rest of the country will be treated to the propaganda balanced news we here in the middle of the nation have had for so long.

Sinclair owns stations affiliated with all the broadcast networks.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:45:05pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

According to the folks over at TPM, the Senate GOP are so desperate to get a bill passed and not receive the blame next year for the failure of Trumpcare that they’re basically pushing the CBO to come up with reports based purely upon hypotheticals. Case in point:

That’s the modern GOP in a nutshell: “I’m not robbing you, I’m just giving you the choice to live without your valuables.”

Also modern GOP: Just produce a report that shows the numbers we want.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:46:03pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

“Because it’s a free country, they would choose, because we eliminate the individual mandate, to not buy insurance,” he said.

“And we don’t care whether people have health insurance or not, quite frankly.”

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lawhawk  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:46:31pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

The CBO has made it clear that any GOP straight repeal would add significantly to the debt, leave more people uninsured, and still do a worse job than Obamacare has done.

The GOP clearly doesn’t care.

They don’t know or care how insurance actually works, let alone what kind of burdens they’re imposing on everyone as a result of their actions.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:47:56pm

re: #6 lawhawk

The CBO has made it clear that any GOP straight repeal would add significantly to the debt, leave more people uninsured, and still do a worse job than Obamacare has done.

The GOP clearly doesn’t care.

They don’t know or care how insurance actually works, let alone what kind of burdens they’re imposing on everyone as a result of their actions.

They don’t care, but they have to bullshit people into believing they care, hence why they’re now stuck insisting that yanking away your insurance and pricing you out of the market is giving you “choice.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:48:08pm

Justice Department’s corporate crime watchdog resigns, saying she cannot enforce ethics laws while her own bosses in the Trump administration engage in conduct she could not condone in a corporation.

ibtimes.com

Hui Chen — a former Pfizer and Microsoft lawyer who also was a federal prosecutor — had been the department’s compliance counsel. She left the department in June and broke her silence about her move in a recent LinkedIn post that sounded an alarm about the Trump administration’s behavior.

“Trying to hold companies to standards that our current administration is not living up to was creating a cognitive dissonance that I could not overcome,” Chen wrote. “To sit across the table from companies and question how committed they were to ethics and compliance felt not only hypocritical, but very much like shuffling the deck chair on the Titanic. Even as I engaged in those questioning and evaluations, on my mind were the numerous lawsuits pending against the President of the United States for everything from violations of the Constitution to conflict of interest, the ongoing investigations of potentially treasonous conducts, and the investigators and prosecutors fired for their pursuits of principles and facts. Those are conducts I would not tolerate seeing in a company, yet I worked under an administration that engaged in exactly those conduct. I wanted no more part in it.”

(more at International Business Times)

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:48:25pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

They don’t care, but they have to bullshit people into believing they care, hence why they’re now stuck insisting that yanking away your insurance and pricing you out of the market is giving you “choice.”

All still adds up to fewer people uninsured.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:52:46pm

So much WINNING…

Oh, and if you missed it last week
Dollar racks up worst quarter in seven years

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Ming5000  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:53:53pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

And, so it begins

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:55:08pm

Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar is now officially the “Trump assassination play.”

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:56:05pm
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lawhawk  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:56:28pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Trump spawn blocked me. They couldn’t handle the fact that their addled father is a fact-free reactionary loon (and that his spawn are the same).

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:58:00pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

So much WINNING…

Oh, and if you missed it last week
Dollar racks up worst quarter in seven years

FAKE NEWS!!1 YOU JUST WANT THE PRESIDENT TO FAIL!!!!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:58:10pm

re: #13 Ace-o-aces

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Love the pixelation!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:58:16pm

New Mexico Secretary of State tells Trump’s “election commission” to kindly jump into a mirage.

“My office has not yet received the letter from President Trump’s election commission requesting the personal information of New Mexico voters,” Toulouse Oliver said. “That being said, I will never release the personally identifiable information of New Mexico voters protected by law, including their social security number and birth date.

“Further, I will not release any other voter information like names, addresses or voting history unless and until I am convinced the information will not be used for nefarious or unlawful purposes, and only if I am provided a clear plan for how it will be secured. As New Mexico’s Chief Election Official, I will continue to ensure the integrity of our elections while protecting the voting rights and personal privacy of our voters.”

When President Trump announced his Advisory Commission on Election Integrity earlier this year, Secretary of State Toulouse Oliver released this statement:

“If President Trump truly wants to boost Americans’ confidence in the integrity of our elections, he should stop making false claims of rampant voter fraud. President Trump’s voter fraud allegations are simply not true and they are doing real damage to our democracy. I fear that Trump’s Commission will be nothing more than a Trojan Horse used to justify partisan efforts making it harder to vote.”

freeabq.com

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2017 • 12:59:14pm

re: #15 Sir John Barron

FAKE NEWS!!1 YOU JUST WANT THE PRESIDENT TO FAIL!!!!

Nah, right now it’s “LOOK AT OBAMA’S FAILURE!”

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:00:42pm

The White House continues to attack the Legislative Branch agencies…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:00:43pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

CNN & dems calling Trump assassination play “artistic expression” but WWF joke meme is “a call for violence”? Hilarious reinforcement of FNN

— Donald Trump Jr.

Jr. Snowflake needs a safe space.

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Interesting Times  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:01:16pm

Speaking of fails, there are the regular sort, those of the epic variety, and then…

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SteelPH  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:02:53pm

I’m back! Had a really good time.

What’s the catalyst of our imminent demise now?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:03:19pm

re: #21 Interesting Times

Speaking of fails, there are the regular sort, those of the epic variety, and then…

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For VERY heavy overnight protection.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:03:24pm

re: #21 Interesting Times

Speaking of fails, there are the regular sort, those of the epic variety, and then…

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TRY THE NEW PASADENA POOL FLOAT - NOW TWICE AS ABSORBENT!!

*marketing fail headdesk*

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:03:55pm

re: #19 FormerDirtDart

The White House continues to attack the Legislative Branch agencies…

Is this back to the pre-SCOTUS ruling on Medicaid expansion?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:04:18pm

re: #22 SteelPH

I’m back! Had a really good time.

What’s the catalyst of our imminent demise now?

All of them.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:04:34pm

re: #23 Big Beautiful Door

For VERY heavy overnight protection.

Do they come with wings?

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sagehen  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:06:17pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar is now officially the “Trump assassination play.”

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The director of the 2012 Obama Julius Caesar has some thoughts:

medium.com

I think one key difference in the corporate response to the two productions is simply that most people who wrote about and talked about our production — the one with an Obama-inspired Caesar — actually saw the show, where it is clear that most of those outraged by The Public Theater’s Trumpian emperor either didn’t see the play or didn’t stay to the end.

The Breitbart article that started the controversy is — I kid you not — a review by someone who talked to someone who saw the show. This second-order correspondent also thinks the play ends with the death of Caesar, as if they are killing the bad guy at the end of a superhero movie. In fact, the assassination takes place in the middle of the play, the rest of which deals with the terrible consequences of this action. Shakespeare built the outrage into the text. Mark Antony is so outraged — for himself, and on our behalf — that outrage suffuses the play’s entire second half. If you see a production, you get outraged with the play, not against it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:06:40pm

Meanwhile, this potato is making a clean getaway:

gfycat.com

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:07:48pm

re: #28 sagehen

The Breitbart article that started the controversy is — I kid you not — a review by someone who talked to someone who saw the show. This second-order correspondent also thinks the play ends with the death of Caesar, as if they are killing the bad guy at the end of a superhero movie. In fact, the assassination takes place in the middle of the play, the rest of which deals with the terrible consequences of this action.

our journalism is the best journalism and shutup libtard Hollywood weirdo movie maker dude.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:09:06pm

re: #27 Barefoot Grin

Do they come with wings?

When my wife still needed them, I had very specific instructions when going to the store: long, ultrathin, with wings [to fly!]

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:09:43pm

re: #24 Dr Lizardo

TRY THE NEW PASADENA POOL FLOAT - NOW TWICE AS ABSORBENT!!

*marketing fail headdesk*

It’s a floor wax and a dessert topping!

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:10:42pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

New Mexico Secretary of State tells Trump’s “election commission” to kindly jump into a mirage.

freeabq.com

She’s a Democrat who was elected in a special election to replace the Republican who was found pleaded guilty to 6 of 65 charges of corruption.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:12:49pm

Why should it surprise people that Trump supporters don’t know that the assassination of Caesar is only the half-way mark of the play when these are often the same people who think Red Dawn is the courageous story about how a bunch of high school kids turned back a Soviet invasion.

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Jay C  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:13:10pm

re: #28 sagehen

The director of the 2012 Obama Julius Caesar has some thoughts:

medium.com

This second-order correspondent also thinks the play ends with the death of Caesar, as if they are killing the bad guy at the end of a superhero movie. In fact, the assassination takes place in the middle of the play, the rest of which deals with the terrible consequences of this action. Shakespeare built the outrage into the text. Mark Antony is so outraged — for himself, and on our behalf — that outrage suffuses the play’s entire second half. If you see a production, you get outraged with the play, not against it.

That’s the famous “Friends, Romans, Countrymen….” speech, right??

IOW, a dramatic trope that’s been around for 400 or so years - but only now is somehow Awful and Evil because Donald Trump…??

Trying to compose a retort that doesn’t amount to “piss off, you philistine assholes”, and failing…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:14:34pm

re: #33 wrenchwench

She’s a Democrat who was elected in a special election to replace the Republican who was found pleaded guilty to 6 of 65 charges of corruption.

You’d almost think that corruption is in the GOP party platform.

As little as I care for the Libertarian Party’s positions, they are really opposed to corrupt officials in any position of governance.

I’ve had this discussion with my wife the former LP member: If the LP were to replace the GOP as the other major party, discussions of government would be limited to its scope and purpose, not all this BS social conservative crap like opposing marriage equality or women’s and minorities’ rights. By itself that would seem to be an advancement of political discourse.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:15:17pm

re: #35 Jay C

That’s the famous “Friends, Romans, Countrymen….” speech, right??

IOW, a dramatic trope that’s been around for 400 or so years - but only now is somehow Awful and Evil because Donald Trump…??

Trying to compose a retort that doesn’t amount to “piss off, assholes”, and failing…

Defenders of Western Civilization whose idea of culture is Duck Dynasty

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BeachDem  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:15:18pm

re: #28 sagehen

The director of the 2012 Obama Julius Caesar has some thoughts:

medium.com

Well harumph, you didn’t expect them to actually SEE the show before becoming outraged did you? That would be like expecting them to give up their Hamilton boycott because they couldn’t get tickets (or afford them) if they tried.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:18:35pm

re: #21 Interesting Times

Speaking of fails, there are the regular sort, those of the epic variety, and then…

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When you need to soak up a pool…

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sagehen  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:19:45pm

re: #35 Jay C

That’s the famous “Friends, Romans, Countrymen….” speech, right??

IOW, a dramatic trope that’s been around for 400 or so years - but only now is somehow Awful and Evil because Donald Trump…??

Trying to compose a retort that doesn’t amount to “piss off, you philistine assholes”, and failing…

There’s a recurring theme in Antony’s eulogy that “Brutus is an honorable man…” — he repeats that phrase several times, each time with a little more anger, a little more sneer, by the last time he says it he’s practically snarling with air quotes.

Damian Lewis as Antony in Julius Caesar: ‘Friends, Romans, countrymen’ | Shakespeare Solos

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Ming5000  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:20:11pm

This seems like a good idea.
Wildlife crossings stop roadkill. Why aren’t there more?

Wildlife crossings stop roadkill. Why aren’t there more?

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A Cranky One  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:21:21pm

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lawhawk  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:21:42pm

re: #41 Ming5000

Cost. It’s always about the cost.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:22:01pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹

You’d almost think that corruption is in the GOP party platform.

As little as I care for the Libertarian Party’s positions, they are really opposed to corrupt officials in any position of governance.

I’ve had this discussion with my wife the former LP member: If the LP were to replace the GOP as the other major party, discussions of government would be limited to its scope and purpose, not all this BS social conservative crap like opposing marriage equality or women’s and minorities’ rights. By itself that would seem to be an advancement of political discourse.

I never noticed Libertarians taking on women’s and minorities’ issues. At least not on the side I’d want to see.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:22:45pm

re: #43 lawhawk

Cost. It’s always about the cost.

Same reason they’re rare for pedestrians and cyclists.

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Interesting Times  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:23:15pm

re: #43 lawhawk

Cost. It’s always about the cost.

I thought so too, though one obvious way it could be justified (especially in areas with larger wildlife, e.g. deer and moose) is as an accident/damage-to-vehicles prevention measure.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:24:13pm

OT: On GOP politicians weighing in on the Charlie Gard case in the United Kingdom, I would love to see a journalist question them on how the child would fare under GOPDon’tCare.

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Teukka  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:24:30pm

Just watched the John Oliver piece.
We live in interesting times. In the ancient Chinese curse sense. o.o

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:24:38pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹

OT: On GOP politicians weighing in on the Charlie Gard case in the United Kingdom, I would love to see a journalist question them on how the child would fare under GOPDon’tCare.

“Well, the sick child and his family might or might not choose to get insured.”

/

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:25:26pm

re: #44 wrenchwench

I never noticed Libertarians taking on women’s and minorities’ issues. At least not on the side I’d want to see.

But neither has the GOP, so that’s a wash.

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Ming5000  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:27:24pm

re: #43 lawhawk

Cost. It’s always about the cost.

Agreed. The video does describe the hidden cost of animal collisions.

+1 million collisions with large animals, meaning deer, elk, moose, occur every year in the US.
In the US animal/vehicle collisions cost over $8 billion per year.

Maybe the total cost would be less if we spent more on prevention.
But, how could we ever have the conversation if we are still arguing whether the Earth is a globe?

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:27:40pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹

OT: On GOP politicians weighing in on the Charlie Gard case in the United Kingdom, I would love to see a journalist question them on how the child would fare under GOPDon’tCare.

“So what if the insurance company would deny coverage for the procedure and the parents would be financially bankrupt by this point? THEY’D HAVE A CHOICE BECAUSE FREEDOM!!!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:28:37pm

re: #44 wrenchwench

I never noticed Libertarians taking on women’s and minorities’ issues. At least not on the side I’d want to see.

On women’s issues, they take the position that the government has no right to impose its views on women such as contraception or abortion.

They play the middle of the fence though, arguing on abortion that there are “good faith” arguments on all sides of the issue, so it would be inappropriate to use government money to pay for things like abortion when many people believe that to be “murder.”

On minority rights, they have a slogan they have adopted “minority rights should never be subjected to a majority vote.”

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William Lewis  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:32:05pm

re: #42 A Cranky One

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:33:09pm

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹

On women’s issues, they take the position that the government has no right to impose its views on women such as contraception or abortion.

They play the middle of the fence though, arguing on abortion that there are “good faith” arguments on all sides of the issue, so it would be inappropriate to use government money to pay for things like abortion when many people believe that to be “murder.”

On minority rights, they have a slogan they have adopted “minority rights should never be subjected to a majority vote.”

They are also tarred with Ron Paul and their proposed elimination of the ‘welfare state’.

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Ming5000  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:33:21pm

If you are ever bored, just google “xxxxxxx meme” and you will get loads of fun.
I just googled “humans before animals meme” and got some good chuckles.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:35:14pm

I thought you were asking us to google XXX Memes, and then I finished reading the post.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:36:39pm

re: #43 lawhawk

Cost. It’s always about the cost.

Think of all the jobs created by building those crossings.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:36:49pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹

OT: On GOP politicians weighing in on the Charlie Gard case in the United Kingdom, I would love to see a journalist question them on how the child would fare under GOPDon’tCare.

About the same, though the parent’s would no doubt be bankrupted by now.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:37:23pm
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Ming5000  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:39:09pm

re: #57 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I thought you were asking us to google XXX Memes, and then I finished reading the post.

Son of a…. another post fail…
Yeah, I could see how that might happen.
Sorry…
(might try it as research)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:41:32pm

If I was anywhere near NJ and had a boat, I would get ALL of my friends and acquaintances who also have boats and then have the huge ragtag armada drop anchor right off shore from Christie’s stupid beach.
And we would all be drinking and using bullhorns for catcalls and other annoying stuff.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:42:22pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

They are also tarred with Ron Paul and their proposed elimination of the ‘welfare state’.

There is that … though Ron Paul is a small “l” libertarian … Ron Paul is a Republican.

That goes back to the “scope and purpose of government” I mentioned above. I’m all for programmes that help citizens (the welfare state). Debate and discussion about the nature and size of such programmes would be much more productive than fearmongering over who uses a damn bathroom.

(You have to admit, the GOP is great at fearmongering. Does wonders in driving out the voters.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:43:36pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹

Ron Paul is as much a Republican as Bernie is a Democrat.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:43:53pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

So much WINNING…

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Oh, and if you missed it last week
Dollar racks up worst quarter in seven years

I read that electronics sales, etc are way down. Personal debt has never been higher than now which means that everyone’s credit is tapped out; student loans are defaulting at a 20% clip; home sales are down. A recession is around the corner, probably coming by the end of the year or 1Q 2019. The middle class has never been more squeezed than it is at this time, and now BLOTUS wants to add to the anxiety by axing the ACA. Hard times are coming, buckle up.

ADDED: And we have a president who thinks the national debt is caused by the trade deficit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:44:01pm

re: #57 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I thought you were asking us to google XXX Memes, and then I finished reading the post.

That’s my job.

On the other hand, a 7x meme might be far worse than anything I ever delved into.

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Ming5000  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:45:16pm

Not to detract from more serious items, but the “xxx meme” is also a good google. Many funny images, nothing xxx, at least on the first page.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:46:00pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:46:03pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹

You bet. Nixon’s “Southern Strategy” comes to mind.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:46:40pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

yeah the Left really needs to tone down its rhetoric….

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:46:54pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ron Paul is as much a Republican as Bernie is a Democrat.

Ron Paul is a member of the Republican Party.

I don’t see much difference in his positions over Paul Ryan for example. They both worship at the altar of Ayn Rand (as do many Republicans).

One difference between the GOP and the LP is the GOP is actually in a position to take a meataxe to government programmes, whilst the LP only talks about doing so.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:47:52pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹

OT: On GOP politicians weighing in on the Charlie Gard case in the United Kingdom, I would love to see a journalist question them on how the child would fare under GOPDon’tCare.

Why, Charlie’s parents just have to take him to a Benny Hinn Prayer service and Benny will drive the demons out!

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William Lewis  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:48:53pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ron Paul is as much a Republican as Bernie is a Democrat.

Oh I don’t know - they have the same goals after all: obtain and maintain power at all costs, steal as much money as possible for their bosses and destroy the lives of as many poor & minority people as possible.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:48:55pm

re: #70 Sir John Barron

yeah the Left really needs to tone down its rhetoric….

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I hope Ms. Navarro turned that threat over to the FBI (and reported it to Facebook … she is famous enough they might pay attention to her).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:49:49pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

Ron Paul is a member of the Republican Party.

So am I, technically (according to my voter registration).
Doesn’t mean a damned thing.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:52:20pm

Apparently the Charlie Gird business is boiled down to the usual: “It’s run by unfeeling bureaucrats! If they cared, they’d let the parents take him to the US or let him die at home!”

Meanwhile, if Charlie Gird were a US citizen, he’d have been dead months ago when the insurance company stopped the money flow and the hospital informed the parents that failure to pay would mean cessation of care.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:54:14pm

Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact version 2.0

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:56:13pm

re: #77 DodgerFan1988

There is no doubt in my mind that it is going to be a glorious dumpster fire.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2017 • 1:56:22pm

re: #76 Targetpractice

Apparently the Charlie Gird business is boiled down to the usual: “It’s run by unfeeling bureaucrats! If they cared, they’d let the parents take him to the US or let him die at home!”

Meanwhile, if Charlie Gird were a US citizen, he’d have been dead months ago when the insurance company stopped the money flow and the hospital informed the parents that failure to pay would mean cessation of care.

I assume they mean “If they cared, they’d let the parents take him to the U.S. AND STILL PAY ALL THE BILLS.”

I don’t think England is preventing anyone from coming to the U.S. for medical care. England isn’t Cuba or NK.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:00:03pm

There are a LOT of Libertarians masquerading as Republicans because that’s the only way they can win elections right now.

I am specifically looking at Rand Paul, my congresscritter Thomas Massie, Paul Ryan, Justin Amash, amongst many other supposed “Republicans”.

Calling them “small l” Libertarians as if that dismisses them as a joke is disingenuous and, actually, outright dangerously foolhardy.

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BeachDem  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:01:45pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

So am I, technically (according to my voter registration).
Doesn’t mean a damned thing.

And once we:
eliminate government involvement in education
get rid of all banking regulations
balance the budget
eliminate the federal reserve
eliminate public accommodation civil rights rulings (because “ostracism of restricted businesses” will sort it all out.
And on an on in the Libertarian platform and rhetoric,

we will live in a Randian utopia.

My dad had a phrase for it—talking ragtime.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:03:34pm

This is a paper on the disorder Charlie Gard has.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

As I understand it (I only have a high school education), mitochondrial DNA is created by salvaging what the mitochondria have available rather than the normal replication of DNA in the cell nucleus. The genetic disorder prevents one or more enzymes required for salvaging the materials in mitochondria necessary to create mitochondrial DNA, resulting in gradual failure of cells.

There are several different versions of the disorder, and some people can live well past twenty years old. The version the infant in the UK has will rapidly kill a child. If I read the report from NIH correctly, fewer than two hundred people have ever been diagnosed with any form of the disorder.

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danarchy  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:04:07pm

re: #79 Sir John Barron

I assume they mean “If they cared, they’d let the parents take him to the U.S. AND STILL PAY ALL THE BILLS.”

I don’t think England is preventing anyone from coming to the U.S. for medical care. England isn’t Cuba or NK.

Actually I believe the parents have raised the money to bring him to the US for the treatment but the courts ruled it would be cruel to prolong his life.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:09:44pm

There is some money behind this flat earth revivalism:
Flat Earth Billboard Campaign Spreads to Oklahoma

An inventive campaign by Flat Earth conspiracy theorists to catch the attention of motorists via billboards has spread to Oklahoma.

Over the next month, drivers cruising down the highway near the Tulsa International Airport may spot an electronic ad which asks the question, “is the Earth Flat?”

Unlike the previous billboard which appeared in Philadelphia earlier this month and simply said “Research Flat Earth,” this particular message also includes information on a Facebook group where people can do just that.

As one can surmise, the billboard was purchased by that group, specifically one dedicated member who paid $1,500 for the month’s worth of ad space.

There is something else behind it as well. I’ve said for years that if you scratch a conspiraloon, you’ll find a Jew hater. The “father” of the modern flat earth conspiracy claims, one Eric Dubay, is a Holocaust denier. The blog American Zionism went looking for smoking gun evidence about the movement in general. They found it.
Is a Flat Earth Antisemitic?
Almost half of the flat earth believers they found on Twitter and Facebook also made antisemitic statements and claims, which is an extraordinary number considering how circumspect many Jew haters are.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:10:19pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are a LOT of Libertarians masquerading as Republicans because that’s the only way they can win elections right now.

I am specifically looking at Rand Paul, my congresscritter Thomas Massie, Paul Ryan, Justin Amash, amongst many other supposed “Republicans”.

Calling them “small l” Libertarians as if that dismisses them as a joke is disingenuous and, actually, outright dangerously foolhardy.

Perhaps there are.

That said, I separate them into small “l” (those who hold libertarian principles regardless of party) and large “L” (those who are members of the Libertarian Party).

The LP itself doesn’t give a hoot about things such whether a woman gets an abortion or two people of the same sex want to marry (as long as they don’t have to pay for it).

My wife made a gradual slide out of the LP and into liberal positions (I corrupted her). Leaning on her as the only LP member I ever met (that I am aware of), she calls Republicans poseurs (because of their social conservative positions such as trying to force creationism into schools and regulating women’s ladybits).

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Stanley Sea  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:13:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:15:15pm

I thought it was getting hot despite the swamp cooler. It’s 96 degrees here now. Someone turned summer back on. Wednesday the temp is predicted to be 99. Who moved Arizona to Nebraska? (The nights will be in the upper 50’s to lower 60’s.)

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:15:25pm

re: #83 danarchy

Actually I believe the parents have raised the money to bring him to the US for the treatment but the courts ruled it would be cruel to prolong his life.

How could the courts rule about his travel?

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:15:49pm

The Charlie Gard case is the new “Baby Joseph” case: A case of a terminally-ill infant that wingnuts will flock around because it gives them a chance to preen about how “compassionate” they are to keep a child alive and in pain for a few more months if only to spite “socialized medicine.”

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:18:24pm

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹

Perhaps there are.

That said, I separate them into small “l” (those who hold libertarian principles regardless of party) and large “L” (those who are members of the Libertarian Party).

The LP itself doesn’t give a hoot about things such whether a woman gets an abortion or two people of the same sex want to marry (as long as they don’t have to pay for it).

My wife made a gradual slide out of the LP and into liberal positions (I corrupted her). Leaning on her as the only LP member I ever met (that I am aware of), she calls Republicans poseurs (because of their social conservative positions such as trying to force creationism into schools and regulating women’s ladybits).

Gary Johnson is a Republican and a big L ibertarian who, one year when he was not the nominee, voted for Chuck Baldwin for president, showing everyone who he is, politically.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:19:48pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

The Charlie Gard case is the new “Baby Joseph” case: A case of a terminally-ill infant that wingnuts will flock around because it gives them a chance to preen about how “compassionate” they are to keep a child alive and in pain for a few more months if only to spite “socialized medicine.”

Don’t forget burnishing “pro-life” credentials whilst supporting the death penalty and turning away hungry children in schools like Jesus would recommend.

re: #88 Sir John Barron

How could the courts rule about his travel?

They ruled on human rights grounds (his).

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:24:26pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:25:33pm

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹

Don’t forget burnishing “pro-life” credentials whilst supporting the death penalty and turning away hungry children in schools like Jesus would recommend.

They ruled on human rights grounds (his).

So “pro-life” that they’re prepared to sink taxpayer money (yeah, Trump’s not paying out of his pocket to “save” this child) into the care of a foreigner when there are children in this nation that they’re prepared to fuck over so the top 1% can get a tax cut. Why? Because getting Trumpcare passed puts a point on the board and that’s all they care about.

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danarchy  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:25:42pm

re: #88 Sir John Barron

How could the courts rule about his travel?

They ruled it was not in the best interest of the child.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:26:41pm

re: #90 wrenchwench

Gary Johnson is a Republican and a big L ibertarian who, one year when he was not the nominee, voted for Chuck Baldwin for president, showing everyone who he is, politically.

I looked up this Chuck Baldwin fellow, since I’d not heard of him before.

He is a first-class social conservative wingnut. Being a member of the League of the South, I’m guessing he’d be okay with returning to slavery (and since the Bible promotes that, and he is a religious wingnut as well… .)

As for Mr. Johnson, I’m unaware of whom he might have voted for in the past. I’ll presume since you brought up Mr. Baldwin that you know what you’re talking about: I have trouble keeping my wingnuts straight.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:27:51pm

re: #92 gocart mozart

[Trump’s travel ban blocks Afghanistan’s all-girl robotics team from attending STEM competition]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:29:45pm

re: #96 wrenchwench

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Canada can host these events.
And it will be enjoyable for everyone involved.

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EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:29:58pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

The Charlie Gard case is the new “Baby Joseph” case: A case of a terminally-ill infant that wingnuts will flock around because it gives them a chance to preen about how “compassionate” they are to keep a child alive and in pain for a few more months if only to spite “socialized medicine.”

In other words, the GOP death cult is once again faking concern for human life.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:30:41pm

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹

I looked up this Chuck Baldwin fellow, since I’d not heard of him before.

He is a first-class social conservative wingnut. Being a member of the League of the South, I’m guessing he’d be okay with returning to slavery (and since the Bible promotes that, and he is a religious wingnut as well… .)

As for Mr. Johnson, I’m unaware of whom he might have voted for in the past. I’ll presume since you brought up Mr. Baldwin that you know what you’re talking about: I have trouble keeping my wingnuts straight.

I feel responsible to point out the wingnuttiness of Gary Johnson because he had two terms as governor of NM, and he looks cool to those who only see his pro-pot stance.

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danarchy  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:31:01pm

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹

They ruled on human rights grounds (his).

My problem with this is it has been tied up in the courts for a couple of months. If the courts hadn’t interfered the parents would probably have brought him, had a couple of months of failed experimental treatments and come to this decision on their own.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:31:48pm

re: #48 Teukka

Just watched the John Oliver piece.
We live in interesting times. In the ancient Chinese curse sense. o.o

Which is not really an ancient Chinese curse.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:33:27pm

re: #101 wheat-dogg

Which is not really an ancient Chinese curse.

The fact-checking never ends.

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EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:33:52pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

I feel responsible to point out the wingnuttiness of Gary Johnson because he had two terms as governor of NM, and he looks cool to those who only see his pro-pot stance.

That’s the usual problem with libertarians. They can be superficially appealing to single issue voters (e.g. legalized pot), but their philosophy is horrible when carried to extremes. And libertarians always carry it to extremes.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:34:23pm

“You can Google it.”
—Lao Tse

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:34:53pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

They don’t care, but they have to bullshit people into believing they care, hence why they’re now stuck insisting that yanking away your insurance and pricing you out of the market is giving you “choice.”

Individual Freedom: the freedom for individuals and families with limited incomes and assets to negotiate one-to-one for terms of health care coverage with companies whose CEOs make more in one year than most of us make in a lifetime.

Same goes for negotiating terms of employment or financial services.

Because freedom.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:35:15pm

hmmm….aluminum dumping…
Just so happens that Gov Bevin is touting an aluminum factory in my neck of eastern Kentucky. And there are cronyism alarms and red flags all over it…

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freetoken  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:35:23pm

Surprised, a bit, that some have not known about Sinclair.

But their recent expansion by buying the Tribune broadcast assets is just one in a long line of right-wing expansion in broadcasting.

A long time ago, the religious right did FM radio, when FM was cheap. Then they did UHF TV. Then they did cable TV networks, then bought up AM radio, then finally bigger television stations.

So something like Sinclair didn’t come out of nowhere. They are part of a long procession of the religious right’s strategy. And it is strategy.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:35:54pm

re: #100 danarchy

My problem with this is it has been tied up in the courts for a couple of months. If the courts hadn’t interfered the parents would probably have brought him, had a couple of months of failed experimental treatments and come to this decision on their own.

Uh, no offense, but that’s bullshit. The doctor (you know, the people medically trained to evaluate such cases) concluded that any further treatment was futile and prolonging Charlie’s life was actually detrimental to him. So they made the decision to cease care and allow him to die with dignity. HIS PARENTS took the matter to the courts and petitioned them to force the hospital to keep him alive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:36:25pm

“intraday”…does he even know what that means?

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jeffreyw  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:36:43pm

re: #102 wrenchwench

The fact-checking never ends.

That is the real curse!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:37:05pm

re: #101 wheat-dogg

Which is not really an ancient Chinese curse.

“My husband, some hot shot….”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:37:23pm

re: #103 EPR-radar

That’s the usual problem with libertarians. They can be superficially appealing to single issue voters (e.g. legalized pot), but their philosophy is horrible when carried to extremes. And libertarians always carry it to extremes.

For example, the small subset of libertarian who think that if a woman is on their property, it is okay to rape her.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:37:24pm

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹

This is a paper on the disorder Charlie Gard has.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

As I understand it (I only have a high school education), mitochondrial DNA is created by salvaging what the mitochondria have available rather than the normal replication of DNA in the cell nucleus. The genetic disorder prevents one or more enzymes required for salvaging the materials in mitochondria necessary to create mitochondrial DNA, resulting in gradual failure of cells.

I have a Doctoral level education, and that’s a pretty good summary by my account. Kudos to your high school biology teacher.

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BeachDem  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:37:32pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“intraday”…does he even know what that means?

Doubtful.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:38:06pm

re: #100 danarchy

My problem with this is it has been tied up in the courts for a couple of months. If the courts hadn’t interfered the parents would probably have brought him, had a couple of months of failed experimental treatments and come to this decision on their own.

The doctors treating him were against him leaving the hospital because of quality of life issues. So, the parents sued. The British court ruled in favor of the child to not be tortured. The parents took it to the International Court of Human Rights who said that the British courts had jurisdiction.

The cases were all held in support of not making the child suffer, not allowing the parents to do whatever they wanted to their child.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:38:14pm

oh. dear. o. m. g.(if you don’t know who Shawn Steel is, google him…YIKES!)

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wheat-dogg  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:38:39pm

re: #104 jaunte

“You can Google it.”
—Lao Tse

The Tao TeChing was the precursor to Google.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:40:15pm

re: #107 freetoken

Surprised, a bit, that some have not known about Sinclair.

But their recent expansion by buying the Tribune broadcast assets is just one in a long line of right-wing expansion in broadcasting.

A long time ago, the religious right did FM radio, when FM was cheap. Then they did UHF TV. Then they did cable TV networks, then bought up AM radio, then finally bigger television stations.

So something like Sinclair didn’t come out of nowhere. They are part of a long procession of the religious right’s strategy. And it is strategy.

One of the seven mountains of Dominionism.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:41:28pm

re: #113 Ace-o-aces

I have a Doctoral level education, and that’s a pretty good summary by my account. Kudos to your high school biology teacher.

Thanks. I’m not well-educated, but I can fake it when necessary. (My mother deserves credit as well, since she insisted I try master English and read everything I could lay my hands on.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:42:02pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar is now officially the “Trump assassination play.”

It’s about marketing the outrage. The people who wrote those headlines knew better. They just know how to get a response out of their target audience.

I am reminded of the Mohammed cartoons some ten years back: the folks who stoked the outrage were aware that in free Western democracies, the government does not have to dictate or approve what appears in the newspapers, but most of the people they were addressing knew it no other way.

And it led to riots and people getting killed.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:44:39pm
What the fuck did we do?
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:45:16pm

I’m off to take a nap. It’s too bloody hot. Catch y’all later… . try to keep Trump from launching all those ICBMs around my house whilst I sleep… .

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:47:57pm

re: #104 jaunte

“You can Google it.”
—Lao Tse

“Never read the comments section. Seriously”.
- Confucius

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:48:12pm

Here’s the relevant portion from the British Supreme Court ruling back in April:

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:52:44pm

Well, good night Lizards.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2017 • 2:58:23pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:10:08pm

re: #5 Sir John Barron

“And we don’t care whether people have health insurance or not, quite frankly.”

Yep. That’s the point of Trump Care. It’s not about healthcare. It’s about tax cuts for the wealthy. Priorities, folks.

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Weaselone  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:12:29pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

Forget it. Chuck’s never going to admit his responsibility. There are two groups of people that the media has yet to blame for Trump’s election:

1. The people who actually voted for Trump
2. The media

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:13:19pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh. dear. o. m. g.(if you don’t know who Shawn Steel is, google him…YIKES!)

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No need to google. If Trump loves him, he’s horrible.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:14:59pm

Seriously. From the Walk of Fame FAQ:

Q: What is the role of the Hollywood Entertainment District?
A. The Hollywood Entertainment District (HED) is what is known as a business improvement district (BID). A BID administers funds assessed property owners within the district for programs that will benefit those properties. Among the HED’s goals is to keep the area looking nice. The Hollywood Walk of Fame is located within the boundaries served by the Hollywood Entertainment District. The HED contracts with a private company to clean the Walk of Fame on a regular basis and to keep it looking good.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:15:01pm

re: #128 Weaselone

Forget it. Chuck’s never going to admit his responsibility. There are two groups of people that the media has yet to blame for Trump’s election:

1. The people who actually voted for Trump
2. The media

Ironically, the MSM which Trump calls fake news helped to normalize him and get him elected.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:16:08pm

re: #128 Weaselone

Forget it. Chuck’s never going to admit his responsibility. There are two groups of people that the media has yet to blame for Trump’s election:

1. The people who actually voted for Trump
2. The media

I’ve become convinced that economic anxiety was a factor. The economic anxiety of the 1%.

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:18:02pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:18:48pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:18:59pm

Back from a weekend of Umphrey’s McGee at Red Rocks. That band is good.

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:19:20pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:20:21pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:21:03pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:22:57pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:23:47pm

re: #138 gocart mozart

I cast a write-in vote for Mr. Hankey!

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:23:47pm

Chris Christie may not be Fit and Trim, but he is Modern Day Fit and Trim.

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:27:09pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:30:22pm

...

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:31:15pm

5 likes, but one was from Emo Philips hisself woot!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:32:54pm

re: #135 gocart mozart

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Didn’t Louie Anderson used to joke that he hated going to the beach because people kept trying to roll him back into the ocean…..

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:34:35pm

What is it about ultrasonic cleaning and isopropanol that so capture the mind of aspiring watch hobbyists?

I’ve got this one guy pestering me by PM - turns out I’d been commenting on his threads on two different forums - and I keep telling him I don’t use either water-based cleaning solutions, or alcohols because they contain water. (Steel watch parts are tool steel, so they’ll rust like a motherfucker if they’re allowed to stay wet). I recommend nice, inexpensive mineral spirits he can pick up at Home Depot. I tell him I don’t use an ultrasonic, because even an ultrasonic won’t relieve you of the need to hand-clean some of the parts for optimum performance.

I tell him this, and then he PMs me about some water=based jewelry cleaner he can use in an ultrasonic, and then rinse in isopropanol.

GAH!!!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:37:20pm

Suddenly I’m back in grad school reading Hayden White…..

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retired cynic  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:38:40pm

re: #148 Barefoot Grin

The Sublime Porte objects!

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b.d.  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:40:09pm

I thought Christie got elected because he was an asshole bully and now the folks from New Jersey are horrified and hate him because he’s an asshole bully?

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plansbandc  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:40:11pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

Total wingnut, and really really dumb. I was naive enough to be surprised that NM voters would vote for such an idiot. Sigh.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:40:56pm

Also, forgot about this jewel:

How to Pronounce Synecdoche

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EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:43:15pm

re: #138 gocart mozart

Charles Manson is missing from that list.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:43:25pm

re: #147 Blind Frog Belly White

They are looking for an easy way out of the hand work of scrubbing.

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BeachDem  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:51:08pm

re: #148 Barefoot Grin

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Suddenly I’m back in grad school reading Hayden White…..

Some Canadian shade

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2017 • 3:59:26pm

Winning.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:03:10pm

re: #156 Ace Rothstein

Winning.

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It should be pointed out that having to figure out if you are going to have health care next year will cause you to stop making big purchases.

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Jay C  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:03:52pm

re: #150 b.d.

I thought Christie got elected because he was an asshole bully and now the folks from New Jersey are horrified and hate him because he’s an asshole bully?

Yeah: true for the first time: the second time because he connived with Trenton Democrats to sandbag the opposition*; but, as usual with NJ Governors, Big Chris has ended up “horrified and hated” not only because he’s an asshole bully: but because eight years is the absolute shelf-life of ANY NJ Governor (or whatever Party): and Gov. XXXXL’s malodor has finally started to catch up with him.

*that, and leveraging his “Hero of Hurricane Sandy” image for all that he could.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:04:34pm

re: #157 Belafon

It should be pointed out that having to figure out if you are going to have health care next year will cause you to stop making big purchases.

Correct. As i said earlier in the thread, axing the ACA which would create more uncertainty which would add to already high economic anxiety. Republicans are terrorists.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:04:55pm

re: #156 Ace Rothstein

Winning.

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How long before this becomes Obama’s fault for bailing them out?

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:06:12pm

re: #160 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

How long before this becomes Obama’s fault for bailing them out?

Wednesday at around 6:00 AM EST via twitter and a toilet seat in Washington D.C.

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b.d.  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:08:19pm

re: #156 Ace Rothstein

Winning.

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[trump] FAKE NUMBERS, GM HAS BEEN SELLING MORE CARS THAN EVER![/trump]

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EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:08:42pm

re: #157 Belafon

It should be pointed out that having to figure out if you are going to have health care next year will cause you to stop making big purchases.

This is obvious to everyone except GOP stooges and their accomplices in the media. So the basic form of the next Great Both-Siderist Snipe Hunt is now clear.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:09:16pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:12:14pm

re: #160 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

How long before this becomes Obama’s fault for bailing them out?

Watch Fox and FIENDS tomorrow…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:15:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:20:30pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:20:47pm

re: #156 Ace Rothstein

Winning.

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That’s because gas is back up at $4+/gallon. ///

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:25:17pm

TURNSPEAK==>

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:31:08pm

Tweety is doing a “special” on 20 years of Trump. Isn’t five months enough?

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wheat-dogg  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:31:27pm

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

These people are obsessed with Obama.

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:31:35pm

The GOP is a collection of nutbags.
Exhibit A

Exhibit B

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:32:56pm

re: #172 gocart mozart

His use of the name “Barry” suggests that he is also a Birther.

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:39:06pm

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fern01  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:41:50pm

re: #148 Barefoot Grin

Trump doesn’t know the names of most world leaders - if he does know them - he can’t spell them - let alone pronounce them. I’m amazed he knows that Italy is a country.

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Weaselone  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:45:01pm

re: #172 gocart mozart

Looking at the comments on these is sort of like looking at a group of evil twitter bots talking to one another.

Bot 1: I hear Obama lead the armies that occupied Constantinople in 1453.
Bot 2: Obama’s a bad leader. He’s making all our allies hate Trump.
Bot 3: I agree. Obama sucks. He should be in prison. Trump is the best President ever and has a strong, coherent foreign policy.
Bot 4: Obama spent 8 years destroying the country. Fortunately, Trump has nearly rebuilt in it in 5 months. We went from 25% unemployment to 5% in just months.
Bot 1: Our military is now huge again after Obama disbanded it.

Reading it just makes you want to scream out “There are four lights assholes” to your living room furniture.

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BeachDem  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:46:27pm

heh

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EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:48:13pm

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

These people obviously don’t believe in the god they claim to worship, since lying hypocrites at that level are just begging to be bodily assumed into Hell.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:52:23pm

re: #178 EPR-radar

These people obviously don’t believe in the god they claim to worship, since lying hypocrites at that level are just begging to be bodily assumed into Hell.

The Gawd they worship is Ayn Rand

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EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:53:42pm

re: #179 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Gawd they worship is Ayn Rand

Mammon is the older and truer name for their real god.

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EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:56:16pm

re: #172 gocart mozart

‘defeated socialism in the 40s’. That wingnut is so chock full of cray-cray that I missed the worst part of all on the first several readings.

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Interesting Times  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:57:56pm
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scottslemmons  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:58:00pm

re: #180 EPR-radar

Mammon.

If you sat these doofi down and made them read the Gospels front to back, they’d want to burn every church to the ground.

If you sat ‘em down and made ‘em read the Constitution, they’d think it was from some diabolical enemy nation we needed to bomb.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:58:10pm

re: #170 Ace Rothstein

Tweety is doing a “special” on 20 years of Trump. Isn’t five months enough?

Is it about the 20 years of the T campaign, or the 20 years of the T administration?

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A Cranky One  Jul 3, 2017 • 4:58:38pm

re: #54 William Lewis

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:01:00pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:04:40pm

re: #157 Belafon

It should be pointed out that having to figure out if you are going to have health care next year will cause you to stop making big purchases.

Well I did my part for the economy by buying the turntable of my dreams last week. Every time I buy something expensive I immediately think that something awful and expensive is about to happen.

Sure enough, I got a letter from my doctor telling me that the blood work I had last week showed that my blood sugar was high and they diagnosed me with diabetes type 2 (I found this out on my 63rd b-day). I’m on a med now and I went out and bought a ton of veggies and nuts and zero fat dairy stuff. I needed to lose a bunch of weight anyway so the b-day and the diagnosis kicked that into high gear. I want to lose at least 80 pounds by the time I turn 65. I’m going to miss bread and ice cream and Starbucks Mocha Frappuccinos in the morning, and I need to get off my butt and start walking.

My cat also had blood work last week because the vet was thinking she might have high thyroid levels. I had a message from my vet when I got home telling me that her tests came back just on the high side of normal so she’s OK for now. Yay for that. Now we need to work on getting her weight up a few pounds. She’s 15.5 years old.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:07:07pm

re: #187 stpaulbear

I hear you on that first part. I spent a fair amount of money this spring getting Mrs. Fish’s big brown beastie back on the road. I now have an unmentionable number sitting in a pile of medical bills, back-dated from Mrs. Fish’s car accident that apparently took 8 months to go through the insurance system and finally arrive on my desk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:07:11pm

re: #187 stpaulbear

Yay for getting the turntable of yer dreams.
That is gonna go a long way to sorting out your basic health probs just so long as you put yourself on a regular regimen and stick to it.

Trust me on this…

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:07:19pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:13:08pm
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William Lewis  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:16:12pm

re: #185 A Cranky One

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:21:14pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:21:27pm

re: #172 gocart mozart

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:24:47pm
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retired cynic  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:26:36pm

re: #195 FormerDirtDart

That first photo. OMG. I recognize that look. He doesn’t know where he is, or what he is doing there, and may not even know who he is at that point. Scareeeee.

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stpaulbear  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:31:26pm

re: #196 retired cynic

That first photo. OMG. I recognize that look. He doesn’t know where he is, or what he is doing there, and may not even know who he is at that point. Scareeeee.

Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (Full Length Version) (1980/ 2013) (HD)

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:32:47pm

Blurry iPhone 4S picture filtered all to hell on Instagram, on Saturday night.

Instagram

This rock ‘n’ roll troupe is pretty good, I’ve seen ‘em a bunch of times. Highly recommended. #umphreys

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:34:44pm

re: #196 retired cynic

That first photo. OMG. I recognize that look. He doesn’t know where he is, or what he is doing there, and may not even know who he is at that point. Scareeeee.

If you don’t think the presidential staff is important, think about this: Reagan was suffering from Alzheimer’s and yet we didn’t go to shit like this. It also helps that Reagan was a little nicer.

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William Lewis  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:36:34pm

re: #199 Belafon

If you don’t think the presidential staff is important, think about this: Reagan was suffering from Alzheimer’s and yet we didn’t go to shit like this. It also helps that Reagan was a little nicer.

As an actor, Reagan was used to a director telling him what to do. Trump still thinks he’s the director and that is more likely to kill us all.

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retired cynic  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:36:50pm

re: #199 Belafon

If you don’t think the presidential staff is important, think about this: Reagan was suffering from Alzheimer’s and yet we didn’t go to shit like this. It also helps that Reagan was a little nicer.

When people go into some sort of dementia, it depends on where in the brain the damage is going on. Some sweet people get violent; others mellow out. You just don’t know.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:38:06pm

re: #201 retired cynic

When people go into some sort of dementia, it depends on where in the brain the damage is going on. Some sweet people get violent; others mellow out. You just don’t know.

My maternal grandmother suffered from dementia. She was a sweet old lady and just got confused. It was heartbreaking, but probably the least bad of all the possible options. Brain damage can be incredibly unpredictable.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:38:28pm

Which instant pot is recommended?

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BeachDem  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:39:18pm

re: #193 FormerDirtDart

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Things not going so well for KKKris and the gang.

Although I spent most of Friday (wasted most of Friday) putting together a list of all the states and comments, this spreadsheet put together by Matthew Berg really puts it all out there much better:

docs.google.com

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b.d.  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:41:32pm

re: #195 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

[trump] Where’s the chopper? Are you telling me I have to ride in a car like some random Joe Nobody!? [/trump]

“Sir it is an armoured limo with a huge escort and we shut down the stree…”

[trump] SHUDUP! [/trump]

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lawhawk  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:42:54pm

re: #199 Belafon

Trump doesn’t care about the basics. He didn’t surround himself with detail oriented people or even people who were competent. He picked those who showed loyalty to him and pledged as much to him.

It was never about competence or knowledge.

His idea of running a business is going and declaring bankruptcy and leaving creditors holding the bag. Or going back to dad for a bailout. Or inheriting his fortune so that he can afford to make mistakes that would ruin most everyone else.

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:44:09pm

Umphrey’s McGee played this last night. They flew in Jennifer Hartswick to sing this (and Red Barchetta by Rush).

Electric Avenue to Hell (feat. Jennifer Hartswick)

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:45:03pm

Right Wing Logic:

“Black people have a genetic inheritance to low intelligence.”
“They have an average IQ of 70.”
“No amount of education is going to help them.”

BUT

“The Earth is 6000 years old.”
“Evolution isn’t real.”
“Praying cures cancer.”
“Climate Change is fake.”
“Iraq was behind 9/11”
“Vaccines causes autism.”
“Sandy Hook is a hoax.”

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:46:53pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:46:56pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:47:47pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

I only got as far as Apple BASIC. When it comes to assembly code, I only speak 386.

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lawhawk  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:51:43pm

Only an addled know-nothing would claim that the media isn’t going to report on DJIA intraday highs.

But here’s the thing. Trump’s still lagging behind what Obama saw in growth during Obama’s term in office.

At this point in Obama’s term, the DJIA was up…. wait for it… 14.6%.

Trump’s DJIA increase to date is…. 8.1%.

Yeah, I know. Right?

Trump inherited an economy that has been strong and steady. Obama inherited an economy that was coming apart at the seams thanks to a global recession and credit market meltdown.

Trump hasn’t enacted any laws affecting the budget or the economy. He’s played on the fringes - pushing environmental de-regulation of coal mine waste for instance, but that barely registers in an economy of this size.

Not that he knows how any of this works.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 3, 2017 • 5:57:00pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:00:12pm
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Maddies Mom  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:00:41pm

Well guess what y’all, I work at the station in Chicago that was just bought. Nobody’s sure what’s going to happen. One school of thought is that it’s very institutionally tied to Chicago, and the marketplace is very democratic. If they try to change it, they’ll lose a shit-ton of money. We can only hope that their greed is stronger than their ideology.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:02:17pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

That takes me back to some of the Texas Instruments ads I designed at my first job.

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EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:02:42pm

re: #212 lawhawk

In other words, tr*mp’s fuck-ups haven’t affected the economy yet.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:03:28pm
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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:04:02pm

re: #218 Charles Johnson

I’m legit relieved.

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sagehen  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:05:40pm

re: #215 Maddies Mom

Well guess what y’all, I work at the station in Chicago that was just bought. Nobody’s sure what’s going to happen. One school of thought is that it’s very institutionally tied to Chicago, and the marketplace is very democratic. If they try to change it, they’ll lose a shit-ton of money. We can only hope that their greed is stronger than their ideology.

Fox News lost hundreds of millions of dollars every year for the first 8 years they were in business. It was worth it to them; the tax rate changes once GWB had full R control of the house and senate, was more than enough to cover those losses.

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William Lewis  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:07:58pm

re: #211 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I only got as far as Apple BASIC. When it comes to assembly code, I only speak 386.

6800 & 68000 for me. Much cleaner.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:08:39pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:12:23pm

It seems like the responses to Kobach’s poorly-thought-out request for sensitive information fall into two different categories: A polite “we’re sorry, but that’s totally illegal,” and a slightly more on-the-nose “go fuck yourself”.

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sagehen  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:13:54pm

I guess this where we thank the RWNJ’s for their hatred of the federal gov’t?

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:15:37pm

re: #224 sagehen

I guess this where we thank the RWNJ’s for their hatred of the federal gov’t?

Texas leads the way, bigly.

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scottslemmons  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:16:38pm

re: #223 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It seems like the responses to Kobach’s poorly-thought-out request for sensitive information fall into two different categories: A polite “we’re sorry, but that’s totally illegal,” and a slightly more on-the-nose “go fuck yourself”.

And the occasional “Anything for you, just keep those terrifying black people out of the polling places! (sloppy kiss)”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:19:58pm

re: #226 scottslemmons

And the occasional “Anything for you, just keep those terrifying black people out of the polling places! (sloppy kiss)”

Only one that I know of so far, Missouri. Did I miss something over the last day or two?

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Maddies Mom  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:20:40pm

re: #220 sagehen

Fox News lost hundreds of millions of dollars every year for the first 8 years they were in business. It was worth it to them; the tax rate changes once GWB had full R control of the house and senate, was more than enough to cover those losses.

But Fox was just getting created, we’ve been a top-rated owned & operated station for 50 years - folks are gonna notice! Plus, with the ENORMOUS load of owning all those 100’s of stations, they can’t afford those kinds of losses. Or…… we’re well and truly fucked!!!!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:21:11pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

@BraddJaffy The only cause for hope in the midst of the Trump Horror is that these malevolent clowns are so freaking incompetent.

That’s why I’m in no rush to see him replaced by a Pence administration that would be just as malevolent, and several times more competent.

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Jay C  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:23:59pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

re: #223 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Maybe there’s a correlation with the fact that many-most of these Secretaries of State are elected officials? And don’t want to have to count on having “reformed” election rolls in place by next Election Day?

(Though I would have sworn that most of the Republicans would have jumped on Pence and Kobach’s Voter Purge bandwagon-whatever their state laws say)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:26:28pm

re: #230 Jay C

Maybe there’s a correlation with the fact that many-most of these Secretaries of State are elected officials? And don’t want to have to count on having “reformed” election rolls in place by next Election Day?

(Though I would have sworn that most of the Republicans would have jumped on Pence and Kobach’s Voter Purge bandwagon-whatever their state laws say)

It’s weird that the Republicans haven’t been jumping on the bandwagon. Perhaps they’re watching how bigly Trump has been screwing over his other supporters, and are afraid that they are going to do something illegal and wind up getting the shaft for it?

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makeitstop  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:26:34pm

re: #230 Jay C

(Though I would have sworn that most of the Republicans would have jumped on Pence and Kobach’s Voter Purge bandwagon-whatever their state laws say)

The advantage of state AGs being charged with handling this and not senators or reps.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:30:26pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:33:34pm

re: #231 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s weird that the Republicans haven’t been jumping on the bandwagon. Perhaps they’re watching how bigly Trump has been screwing over his other supporters, and are afraid that they are going to do something illegal and wind up getting the shaft for it?

I think Republican objections to the schemes of tr*mp/Kobach are that it will make things too obvious.

What could be worse for Republicans than for the real scope of their voter suppression at the state level to get exposed by a stupid tr*mp snipe hunt for his ‘popular vote victory’?

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:37:19pm

re: #232 makeitstop

Great point!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:37:33pm

re: #231 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s weird that the Republicans haven’t been jumping on the bandwagon. Perhaps they’re watching how bigly Trump has been screwing over his other supporters, and are afraid that they are going to do something illegal and wind up getting the shaft for it?

I think we’re seeing the breaking point. Trump has never been a “real Republican,” and this voter fraud panel is stepping way over the bounds for the “states’ rights” Republicans and their libertarian fellow travelers. It’s a big government power grab writ large.

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EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:38:35pm

Here’s a true gem from a DailyKos comment on the subject of Western Civilization as conceived of by the neo-Nazis:

Western Syphilization

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freetoken  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:42:19pm

re: #236 Charles Johnson

I think it’s nothing more than who’s playing King of the Mountain.

The Republicans in state government know that if they bow the knee to Trump that they will never make it to the top, because Trump will not share his power with anyone. At least not anyone who isn’t in the immediate Trump crime family.

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EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:45:25pm

re: #238 freetoken

I think it’s nothing more than who’s playing King of the Mountain.

The Republicans in state government know that if they bow the knee to Trump that they will never make it to the top, because Trump will not share his power with anyone. At least not anyone who isn’t in the immediate Trump crime family.

It might be simpler than that. tr*mp will use the Kobach Klown Krusade to hunt for those millions of illegal (D) votes in the 2016 election that everyone knows do not exist.

While these idiots hunt for their White Whale, there’s a good chance of exposing past and present GOP voter suppression unintentionally.

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Jay C  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:55:05pm

re: #236 Charles Johnson

I think we’re seeing the breaking point. Trump has never been a “real Republican,” and this voter fraud panel is stepping way over the bounds for the “states’ rights” Republicans and their libertarian fellow travelers. It’s a big government power grab writ large.

I’m not sure you’re right, Charles: voter suppression initiatives (under the BS rubric of “fraud”) have been a hallmark of Republican states’ regimes for years: I think it’s more likely that the recent Pence-Kobach Crusade is just too blatant, too non-credible, and (not coincidentally) too obviously steps on too many state laws. Which, of course, a competent Administration would have thought about going in, but then….

I’m guessing that after a majority of states tell P & K to get bent for now, their Committee is going to simply keep at: it: only behind the scenes - and then spring their program of purges and suppression on the country via Executive Order or something.

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sagehen  Jul 3, 2017 • 6:56:24pm

OT just wondering; does The Blues Brothers hold the record for most cars destroyed for one movie?

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:00:55pm

re: #241 sagehen

OT just wondering; does The Blues Brothers hold the record for most cars destroyed for one movie?

Nope. That accolade belongs to Transformers 3.

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EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:02:02pm

re: #240 Jay C

I’m not sure you’re right, Charles: voter suppression initiatives (under the BS rubric of “fraud”) have been a hallmark of Republican states regimes for years: I think it’s more likely that the recent Pence-Koback Crusade is just too blatant, too non-credible, and (not coincidentally) too obviously steps on too many state laws. Which, of course, a competent Administration would have thought about going in, but then….

I’m guessing that after a majority of states tell P & K to get bent for now, their Committee is going to simply keep at: it: only behind the scenes - and then spring their program of purges and suppression on the country via Executive Order or something.

That’s how I see it as well. Voter suppression is going to be the main GOP strategy for the 2018 midterm elections. Every civilized person needs to vote against these GOP barbarians at every opportunity.

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TedStriker  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:13:59pm

re: #241 sagehen

OT just wondering; does The Blues Brothers hold the record for most cars destroyed for one movie?

At one time, it did, but now, even adding the total from Blues Brothers 2000, it’s not even close (103 cars for the original, 104 for the sequel):

532 cars destroyed in Transformers 3.

Technically, every one of the 532 cars “destroyed” in the making of Transformers 3 was already fit for the scrapheap. The cars had been donated to director Michael Bay because they were flood damaged, and therefore needed to be scrapped by law anyway.

carthrottle.com

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Cheechako  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:16:51pm

As predicted, fireworks starting. Dogs upset.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:29:06pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:29:46pm

Any tennis people here? My teenager has broken his strings 4x in the last 18 months. H
e has a generic racquet that we bought at Dicks (a Wilson’s Federer line) so that he could play on his high school team. We’ve already paid more in restringing than the racquet cost to begin with. Is it his play? Is it that it’s a crappy racquet? Would he break strings less often with a better racquet?

I am an ok player. I play with him. I’ve never broken a string.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:29:57pm
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Amory Blaine  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:30:37pm

re: #246 jaunte

Jesus that’s unhinged, even for him.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:31:29pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:34:42pm

Umphrey’s McGee performing at Red Rocks Amphitheater in Morrison, CO, 2017/06/30. Photo Credit: Levene Photographers

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freetoken  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:34:58pm

re: #250 jaunte

When even tries-to-be-erudite Drezner is reduced to four word briefs in which he basically gives up, we ought to understand that Trump has now turned the US government into a parody of an actual responsible government.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:35:43pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:36:59pm

re: #253 Charles Johnson

Spoken like a true world leader.
////

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:37:12pm

re: #250 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Woman on Fox this afternoon said “we need to take extreme measures now against NK.”
So, goodbye Seoul.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:39:12pm

re: #255 Barefoot Grin

“I have already given two cousins to the war and I stand ready to sacrifice my wife’s brother.”
— Charles Farrar Browne

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:42:03pm

re: #245 Cheechako

Some fireworks popping in the distance out here in the otherwise quiet countryside.
Dog is whoofing softly at each.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:42:22pm

re: #253 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Considering the pictures we saw of him being confused about where he was, he probably doesn’t even remember saying that dealing with NK was hard.

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:43:18pm

It was so nice to get away from it all and hang out with thousands of like-minded weirdos for three nights of music. So nice. It was the longest I’ve gone without checking Facebook and LGF in some time (I was still on Twitter, but only for Umphreys stuff and my own amusement).

It was such a good time!

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Kragar  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:46:09pm
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Kragar  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:48:21pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:48:41pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:51:50pm

re: #247 Barefoot Grin

Any tennis people here? My teenager has broken his strings 4x in the last 18 months. H
e has a generic racquet that we bought at Dicks (a Wilson’s Federer line) so that he could play on his high school team. We’ve already paid more in restringing than the racquet cost to begin with. Is it his play? Is it that it’s a crappy racquet? Would he break strings less often with a better racquet?

I am an ok player. I play with him. I’ve never broken a string.

Go with polyester strings. I had a racquet with synthetic gut, kept breaking. Same problem, same feeling about cost. I think it is a gamma of some kind, grey.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:53:42pm

re: #263 BlueSpotinAL

Go with polyester strings. I had a racquet with synthetic gut, kept breaking. Same problem, same feeling about cost. I think it is a gamma of some kind, grey.

Thanks!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:56:35pm

re: #263 BlueSpotinAL

Go with polyester strings. I had a racquet with synthetic gut, kept breaking. Same problem, same feeling about cost. I think it is a gamma of some kind, grey.

His high school coach has been restringing. It’s possible he’s using synthetic gut.

(Good news is that the kid has a summer job, so he can now pay for it and make these choices.)

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 3, 2017 • 7:59:22pm

re: #264 Barefoot Grin

Thanks!

The cause of sudden increase in breaking strings was changing racquet. New racquet had larger grid (for more spin), old racquet was dense grid. Consult with a stringing professional or google at least once. Both string and racquet technology make huge differences in how long the ball stays in contact, how much sliding of strings there is (I imagine your son had to readjust strings constantly), how much string grabs the ball, how much flex there is in the frame, etc.

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freetoken  Jul 3, 2017 • 8:00:46pm

Make racquets great again.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 3, 2017 • 8:03:30pm
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BeachDem  Jul 3, 2017 • 8:11:34pm

re: #227 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Only one that I know of so far, Missouri. Did I miss something over the last day or two?

And even Missouri walked it back—

In Missouri, Republican Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft said he is happy to “offer our support in the collective effort to enhance the American people’s confidence in the integrity of the system.” On Friday, Ashcroft spokeswoman Maura Browning said the state is providing only publicly available information. She said that means no Social Security numbers, no political affiliations and no details on how people voted.

NYT as of 6/30

nytimes.com

And a spreadsheet with all the responses to date:

docs.google.com

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2017 • 8:15:55pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 3, 2017 • 8:17:50pm

I just can’t…… Jesus!

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bratwurst  Jul 3, 2017 • 8:34:09pm

Very good (if scary) thread by State Department and NSC vet:

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retired cynic  Jul 3, 2017 • 8:39:34pm

re: #272 bratwurst

Very good (if scary) thread by State Department and NSC vet:

[Embedded content]

Agree. Horribly scary. And most of us could have said that without having been a NK specialist. It is just obvious common sense. Shudder.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2017 • 8:49:39pm

I have to admit this the first time I watched John Oliver. He was informative and funny. I am not surprised that a so-called broadcast group is trying to control local news. This is one of many reasons why I watch PBS.

My local PBS station: whyy.org

National PBS website: pbs.org

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The Dude Abides  Jul 4, 2017 • 2:04:10am

re: #247 Barefoot Grin

What kind of strings has he been using, and what tension? I used 15-gauge string if I didn’t have a tournament, and it used to last me one week or more. I’d make sure to use 16-gauge for tournaments, and one string job would last me about three or four sets.


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