Thursday Night Jam: FORQ, “Ultraviolet”

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FORQ - Ultraviolet (by Chris McQueen) from the CD/DVD “Batch” on GroundUP Music.

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Henry Hey - keyboards
Chris McQueen - electric guitar
Michael League - bass
Jason “JT” Thomas - drums

Recorded by Nic Hard at the Bunker Studio in Brooklyn, New York.
Mixed by Nic Hard at Limebeat Studios in New York, New York.
Mastered by Scott Hull at Masterdisk in New York, New York.

Video directed by Andy LaViolette for Mr. Magic Carpet Ride Productions.
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Filmed by Andy LaViolette, Simon “C.F.” Yu, and Yusuke Suzuki.

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darthstar  Jul 6, 2017 • 9:45:04pm
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darthstar  Jul 6, 2017 • 9:46:03pm

re: #1 darthstar

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2017 • 9:48:27pm

re: #2 darthstar

Well, yes, it’s a clear slight.

But Trump and his suck-up Polish subservient will simply point out that she shook Trump’s hand after Melania’s.

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darthstar  Jul 6, 2017 • 9:49:41pm

re: #3 freetoken

Well, yes, it’s a clear slight.

But Trump and his suck-up Polish subservient will simply point out that she shook Trump’s hand after Melania’s.

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Yeah…but he still frowned like a petulant child.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 6, 2017 • 9:50:38pm

Coming to a conservative North American theocracy near you:

El Salvador Teen Rape Victim Sentenced to Thirty Year Prison Sentence after Stillbirth (Goes to The Guardian) more at the link:

A teenage rape victim in El Salvador has been sentenced to 30 years in prison for murder after having a stillbirth, the latest in a long line of failures of justice against pregnant women in the Central American country.

Evelyn Beatriz Hernandez Cruz, 19, from a small rural community in Cuscatlán, eastern El Salvador, was convicted on the grounds that failing to seek antenatal care amounted to murder.

Hernandez, a high school student, gave birth into the toilet in April 2016 after falling ill with acute back and stomach pain.

Hernandez, who at the time was 18, was in her third trimester, but hadn’t realised that she was pregnant. She had been repeatedly raped by a gang member over several months as part of a forced sexual relationship.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2017 • 9:50:57pm

So my local “serious” conservative finally dug himself out of whatever hole he’s been hiding in for days to grace me with an editorial from The Gray Lady by the walking political tumor that is Mark Penn. What did Mr. Penn have to tell the DNC? If they want to win going forward, they have to become GOP-lite. Abandon all that “socialism” like higher pay and a public option, stop being “politically correct,” and fully embrace all that policies that the GOP considered “moderate”….20 years ago.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2017 • 9:52:01pm
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The Major  Jul 6, 2017 • 9:56:08pm

Reposted from downstairs:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:06:53pm

re: #8 The Major

Reposted from downstairs:

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He’s dreaming of the moment when he gets to sing Tomorrow Belongs To Me to Dork 45…

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:08:19pm

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Amory Blaine  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:14:14pm

Confession time:

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:14:59pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

Time-Warner, owners of CNN, are in a complex relationship with Trump. Mostly though the corporate board knows that having Trump as an ally will help them more than hurt them.

Herein lay the problem for contemporary journalism: when the definition of success is the making of money, truth carries little currency.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:17:59pm

re: #12 freetoken

Time-Warner, owners of CNN, are in a complex relationship with Trump. Mostly though the corporate board knows that having Trump as an ally will help them more than hurt them.

Herein lay the problem for contemporary journalism: when the definition of success is the making of money, truth carries little currency.

Blade Runner world — here we come!

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teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:19:02pm

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

Blade Runner world — here we come!

Giphy

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Kragar  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:20:01pm
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freetoken  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:22:42pm

As I get older I am becoming more skeptical (and cynical) about what I may have previously assumed to be true.

Among that was the hidden belief that “journalism” comes from a long line of objective truth seekers.

Now, as I look through newspapers of old, and listen to what was recorded in the early days of radio, and then TV, I’m concluding that I was naive about what the “news” really was.

This gets back to our discussions of history and the knottiness of most questions about the past (e.g., the “historical Jesus”.)

I’m sure there are individuals working as, and self-labeling as, “journalists” who are earnestly seeking what they believe is the truth.

Yet, the outlets that channel the work of thousands of people, churning out “news”, may have little in common with the scattered few here and there.

I know there are non-profits attempting to push a higher quality of journalism - ProPublica, for example - or academics who want to aspire to some objective evaluation of journalism - the CJR, for example - but I am cynical enough to believe that these are mere drops in an ocean of human activity that exists primarily for entertainment.

And by “entertainment” I mean that by which we can divert attention away from the realities of life.

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:24:54pm

Had to edit that as a “not” snuck in there to change my statement.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:26:41pm

re: #16 freetoken

Silence Dogood approves.

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BeachDem  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:31:21pm

re: #6 Targetpractice

So my local “serious” conservative finally dug himself out of whatever hole he’s been hiding in for days to grace me with an editorial from The Gray Lady by the walking political tumor that is Mark Penn. What did Mr. Penn have to tell the DNC? If they want to win going forward, they have to become GOP-lite. Abandon all that “socialism” like higher pay and a public option, stop being “politically correct,” and fully embrace all that policies that the GOP considered “moderate”….20 years ago.

Charles Pierce described Penn this way:

If this guy gets within 10 city blocks of your campaign headquarters, call the local hazardous waste unit immediately. Call the guys who pull pythons out of the plumbing in Florida. Call the River Monsters dude. Anything to keep this walking pile of terrible advice at a safe distance. Mark Penn’s counsel should never be taken internally.

esquire.com

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freetoken  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:34:00pm

re: #18 Amory Blaine

So much of what is popularly considered “history” is but the only surviving opinions of a person at a particular time and place.

We’re lucky in that the rise of newspapers in the 18th century left us with some direct records of the lives and works of ordinary (or more than ordinary, in the person you reference) people.

Get much before that time though and what survives really drops off to near zero.

Even in the 19th century in great parts of this continent there was a dearth of writing and recording of local and personal matters. As anyone who has tried to do genealogy in America before 1850 can attest, many women just seem to pop out of nowhere, with only their married names.

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teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:43:39pm

Fucking crickets. Because Dark_Falcon is a Nazi.

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Targetpractice  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:45:48pm

re: #15 Kragar

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“War is hell.”

/movie geek moment

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Amory Blaine  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:46:14pm

re: #19 BeachDem

Charles Pierce described Penn this way:

If this guy gets within 10 city blocks of your campaign headquarters, call the local hazardous waste unit immediately. Call the guys who pull pythons out of the plumbing in Florida. Call the River Monsters dude. Anything to keep this walking pile of terrible advice at a safe distance. Mark Penn’s counsel should never be taken internally.

esquire.com

The middle way is no way at all. If we finally fail in this great and glorious contest, it will be by bewildering ourselves in groping for the middle way.

~John Adams

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:48:44pm

“…A passenger assaulted a flight attendant in the Boeing 767’s first class cabin about 45 minutes after the Beijing-bound flight departed, the spokesperson said, adding that there was no information to suggest that it was a national security threat. The FBI also said the incident did not appear to be such a threat.

And contrary to some reports, there is no information to suggest anyone attempted to breach the cockpit, both the airport and Delta said.

Several passengers tried to subdue the individual, and two people — a passenger and a flight attendant — were hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries in connection with the incident…”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:50:07pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

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Fucking crickets. Because Dark_Falcon is a Nazi.

But at least he is not on the CNNBlackmail train and actually supports the position CNN takes:
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No #cnnblackmail that I can see: Just a bigot being given the choice of clearing up his act or suffering the consequences of exposure.
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teleskiguy  Jul 6, 2017 • 10:51:48pm

re: #25 Hecuba’s daughter

He’s still a fuckin’ Nazi who loves and adores all this nativist shit that Fuckface Von Clownstick has been espousing. He’s a racist Nazi piece of shit.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 6, 2017 • 11:06:21pm

Paul Ryan, doing yeoman’s work at a “Town Hall”.

Speaker Paul Ryan calls North Korea ‘No. 1’ foreign policy concern

Ryan Thursday visited a pair of companies in Oak Creek and Racine.

During his Oak Creek stop at WPC Technologies, a company that manufactures pigments for noncorrosive paints used on airplanes and buildings, Ryan toured the facility and took mostly presubmitted questions from workers.

He did not take questions from reporters Thursday.

He is so brave. Maybe he can face Kim Jong Un with a list of prescreened questions.

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JordanRules  Jul 6, 2017 • 11:13:04pm

ROFL!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2017 • 11:13:05pm

re: #16 freetoken

As I get older I am becoming more skeptical (and cynical) about what I may have previously assumed to be true.

Among that was the hidden belief that “journalism” comes from a long line of objective truth seekers.

Now, as I look through newspapers of old, and listen to what was recorded in the early days of radio, and then TV, I’m concluding that I was naive about what the “news” really was.

We still carry on under the illusion that we are the “customers” and that news programming is the “product”, the things whose job it was to create.

Wrong.

Their product is advertising time. To make it more attractive to potential buyers, they need to attract viewers/readers/listeners. Programming, be it news, entertainment or otherwise, is just window dressing to increase the market value of their product.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 6, 2017 • 11:25:34pm
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The Major  Jul 6, 2017 • 11:29:07pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹

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The Major  Jul 6, 2017 • 11:32:55pm

re: #12 freetoken

Paging Arthur Sloan….

“The World Is a Business, Mr. Beale”

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The Major  Jul 6, 2017 • 11:34:52pm

re: #15 Kragar

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 6, 2017 • 11:35:16pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

FYI seen here prob waving goodbye to his job is the fuckwit who forgot to book hotel accommodations for the Trump administration in Hamburg.

Why didn’t they just stay at the Trump Strength Through Joy Resort in Peenemünde?

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The Major  Jul 6, 2017 • 11:48:26pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

Ah-yup…

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The Major  Jul 6, 2017 • 11:55:01pm

The Major had much fun tonight…

Nighty night….

Scaly dreams, y’all! (even you too, Teleskiguy….)

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 7, 2017 • 12:49:05am

Israeli right wingers are in deep denial about their American allies.

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2017 • 1:15:04am

Your O’Dark Thirty geek moment:

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Kragar  Jul 7, 2017 • 1:16:31am
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Dave In Austin  Jul 7, 2017 • 2:44:59am

Really??

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2017 • 2:48:50am

re: #40 Dave In Austin

Really??

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“Here”? Where’s “here,” Donny? SVR HQ?

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Dave In Austin  Jul 7, 2017 • 2:52:52am

re: #41 Targetpractice

Jet lagged Twooping…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 3:04:01am

re: #40 Dave In Austin

Really??

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Somebody’s been reading Julian Assange’s overnight tweets, among which are:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 3:04:29am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2017 • 3:11:17am

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

Somebody’s been reading Julian Assange’s overnight tweets, among which are:

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Google confirmed to Wikileaks information about one of their clients?

BULLSHIT.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 3:20:42am

re: #40 Dave In Austin

Everyone here is talking about why John Podesta Donald Trump refused to give the DNC server to the FBI and the CIA. release his tax returns Disgraceful!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 3:21:52am

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

I will represent our country well and fight for its interests! Fake News Media will never cover me accurately repeat my lies, spurious claims and unfounded allegations without questioning but who cares!

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 7, 2017 • 3:47:17am
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 7, 2017 • 3:54:54am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:24:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:25:28am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:28:51am

What does Podesta have to do with the DNC?

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jeffreyw  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:31:42am

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Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:33:06am

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

Israeli right wingers are in deep denial about their American allies.

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Actually the entire Satmar community of ultra-Orthodox ARE Jew-haters. They think anyone who is not them are not “real” Jews.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:33:40am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:36:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:36:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:39:03am

guess who is NOT front and center…shuffled way off to the edge instead.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:42:31am

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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guess who is NOT front and center…shuffled way off to the edge instead.

That photo is annoyingly tiny.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:43:07am

re: #59 The Vicious Babushka

That photo is annoyingly tiny.

much like his hands…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:45:43am

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently Hamburg police have had to call for reinforcements.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:47:51am

re: #61 Dr Lizardo

Apparently Hamburg police have had to call for reinforcements.

Anti-globalization activists have set dozens of cars ablaze and tried to block leaders’ delegations from entering the grounds of the Group of 20 summit. Police have said at least 111 officers were hurt during Thursday’s clashes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:51:18am

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I see PM Abe is giving Trump the stink eye. He hasn’t forgotten that assault handshake.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:53:45am

Why is it that every picture of Trump sitting down, EVERY DAMN PICTURE, his legs are manspread and his hands are between his knees like some kid who was sent to the Principal’s office.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:53:45am

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

Being pro-Israel doesn’t mean you’re down with all the mess the Israeli government does such as expanding illegal settlements or annexing land belonging to Palestinians without compensation. I’m pro-U.S. but I criticize the current government all the time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:54:36am

EVERY DAMN PICTURE

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:57:40am

This whole thread is worth reading

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 7, 2017 • 4:59:09am

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s like he’s giving himself pep talks via his tweets. Just like a kid needing to talk himself into doing something he knows he can’t do. Sad!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:01:12am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:01:16am

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

Why is it that every picture of Trump sitting down, EVERY DAMN PICTURE, his legs are manspread and his hands are between his knees like some kid who was sent to the Principal’s office.

He can’t hire prostitutes to give him enemas anymore?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:05:14am

re: #67 The Vicious Babushka

Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost?

“at any cost”

I just…

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Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:06:30am

re: #67 The Vicious Babushka

This whole thread is worth reading

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It isn’t subtle, and if anyone had read a single piece of white supremacist literature going back 175+ years, the context would be obvious.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:09:07am

‪This so-called president of the US is smiling and patting the back of the man who violated the sovereignty of our country and our elections.‬

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Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:11:45am

re: #73 Dr. Matt

‪This so-called president of the US is smiling and patting the back of the man who violated the sovereignty of our country and our elections.‬

He’s a child trying to find just one friend in the cafeteria at lunchtime.

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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:12:52am

re: #73 Dr. Matt

‪This so-called president of the US is smiling and patting the back of the man who violated the sovereignty of our country and our elections.‬

I think that is an “attaboy” move…a thank you for Putin from Donny. Job well done.

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MsJ  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:14:03am

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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guess who is NOT front and center…shuffled way off to the edge instead.

Notice how the new leader of the free world stands out in orange and grey.

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JordanRules  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:16:24am

re: #73 Dr. Matt

‪This so-called president of the US is smiling and patting the back of the man who violated the sovereignty of our country and our elections.‬

QFT

This is crazy.

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I cannot.  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:20:05am

re: #70 Timothy Watson

He can’t hire prostitutes to give him enemas anymore?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:20:41am

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

Actually the entire Satmar community of ultra-Orthodox ARE Jew-haters. They think anyone who is not them are not “real” Jews.

How evangelical christian of them.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:22:46am

I’ve been rereading What Hath God Wrought: The Transformation of America, 1815-1848 and the sections on Andrew Jackson are just scary. Here’s a portion on Jackson’s truthfulness:

Whether the president really believed in Margaret Eaton’s sexual fidelity is doubtful and not even altogether relevant. He insisted that her case paralleled that of his late wife. Yet he would have known his protestations of Rachel’s innocence of adultery to be untrue. For Jackson, such matters were issues not of fact but of his authority. Jackson demanded loyalty, and to him this meant acceptance of his assertions, whether he was insisting on Peggy Eaton’s chastity or (as he did in the course of another tirade) that Alexander Hamilton “was not in favor of the Bank of the United States.”31 In the same spirit of privileging his will over truth, Jackson claimed in 1831 that he had received a message from President Monroe through John Rhea (pronounced “Ray”) authorizing his conduct in the invasion of Florida. Historians working over a period of half a century have carefully proved the story a complete fabrication. Nevertheless, Old Hickory persuaded John Rhea to vouch for its truth!32 After all, Jackson had prevailed upon his friends to endorse the story of his 1791 marriage to Rachel in Natchez. And in 1829-30, with no issue save Indian Removal yet defining the administration’s position, personal loyalty to the president meant everything. (italics in original)

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:25:03am

re: #52 Dr. Matt

What does Podesta have to do with the DNC?

He’s a Democrat, all Democrat Party is DNC, Podesta is Clinton so DNC so there.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:31:43am

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:36:25am

re: #80 Timothy Watson

I’ve been rereading What Hath God Wrought: The Transformation of America, 1815-1848 and the sections on Andrew Jackson are just scary. Here’s a portion on Jackson’s truthfulness:

“rereading”?

That’s mighty ambitious.

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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:37:15am

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:43:25am

re: #84 ObserverArt

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Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:49:56am

re: #83 Sir John Barron

“rereading”?

That’s mighty ambitious.

Something to do on my lunch break. :)

One reason I wanted to reread was because of the time spent on Andrew Jackson in the book and Trump’s love for Jackson.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:54:49am

re: #80 Timothy Watson

I’ve been rereading What Hath God Wrought: The Transformation of America, 1815-1848 and the sections on Andrew Jackson are just scary. Here’s a portion on Jackson’s truthfulness:

On your advice I picked it up from the library. I also commented on that a couple of days ago. The parallels are crazy (except that Jackson was a war “hero.” Also learned that other things we’d learned in high school were BS, such as that crowds of common people came to the White House to celebrate the president of the people (when in fact it was crowds of sycophants and insiders looking for jobs and favors). Thanks for the rec. Very informative.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:56:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:57:39am

re: #87 Barefoot Grin

On your advice I picked it up from the library. I also commented on that a couple of days ago. The parallels are crazy (except that Jackson was a war “hero.” Also learned that other things we’d learned in high school were BS, such as that crowds of common people came to the White House to celebrate the president of the people (when in fact it was crowds of sycophants and insiders looking for jobs and favors). Thanks for the rec. Very informative.

As a kid, I always thought Jackson was a great hero based on watching the movie with Charlton Heston and Yul Brynner about the Battle of New Orleans. The historical figure is another matter entirely…

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:59:03am
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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 5:59:24am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:04:07am

So, basically we’ve got a Trump with massive personal interest in good relations with Russia and the man who was trying to work out a $500B energy deal as boss of Exxon-Mobil when sanctions were put in place meeting with the guy who holds the keys. Boy, I bet they sure give Putin a “tongue lashingbathing.”

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:04:59am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Two related issues. First:

Then the far more important and consequential one:

Trump’s trying to psych himself up for his meeting with Putin. He’s already shown he wont engage in his bullying handshake bullshit with Putin, which shows who’s the dominant and submissive one in this relationship.

That compares poorly with this:

That’s how you deal with Putin. Trump’s busy putting on a show all while he’s slipping Putin all that Putin wants under the table (heck, he’s not even being that subtle about it).

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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:06:11am

re: #90 Belafon

Taegan Goddard ✔ @politicalwire
Sen. Pat Toomey on why it’s so hard to draft a new health care bill: “Look, I didn’t expect Donald Trump to win.”politicalwire.com
1:46 PM - 6 Jul 2017

Confirmation the Republicans never had a replacement and never considered one. Great planning there GOP.

It also proves all those attempts to repeal the ACA in the past were nothing but show. Obviously they never expected any of them to work so they never had any legislation in the works.

And they still get paid for being do-nothings all that time. With benefits…like healthcare.

I’d say they should be embarrassed, but I do not think a Republican politician is capable of embarrassment.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:06:11am

I just love all the out-of-staters who have become Illinois experts overnight. They are the same people who believe a flat tax is the way to go. Well. Illinois is absolute proof a flat income tax does NOT work.

People threatening to move to “KY/IA/ID” etc.? Well, they are in for a big surprise as taxes there for their income brackets are actually higher. Not to mention home/auto/life.

We’ve gone 2 years under Rauner without paying our bills. So many fellow residents would have preferred junk status for the state instead of a 4.95% flat income tax. Suddenly it dawns on them that 4.95% of a $30k income is more a detriment than that same tax on someone making $100k. Uh. Hello.

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:10:42am
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Alephnaught  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:12:52am

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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guess who is NOT front and center…shuffled way off to the edge instead.

Heh, I like one of the replies:

(Yeah, it’s probably because she’s leader of the host nation, but I thought it was funny.)

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:13:18am

re: #96 darthstar

Seriously, that quote got entirely ignored by the media because it said everything we fear about Trump - that he’s Putin’s bitch.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:13:51am

re: #90 Belafon

re: #94 ObserverArt

Confirmation the Republicans never had a replacement and never considered one. Great planning there GOP.

It also proves all those attempts to repeal the ACA in the past were nothing but show. Obviously they never expected any of them to work so they never had any legislation in the works.

And they still get paid for being do-nothings all that time. With benefits…like healthcare.

I’d say they should be embarrassed, but I do not think a Republican politician is capable of embarrassment.

It was always vaporware and malware. They never had a plan. They had 8 years the most they figured out was repealing Obamacare. They didn’t have anything that would cover as many people for as much and cost comparably.

All they’ve done is lie about Obamacare, lie about how it’s failing, and then sabotaging it at every opportunity to make that a self-fulfilling prophesy. Except even the GOP has been forced to admit that they’re buggering themselves because they don’t understand how insurance works, how Obamacare works, and don’t care because all they are fixated on is tax cuts for the rich.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:14:06am

re: #38 Targetpractice

Your O’Dark Thirty geek moment:

I can’t see the picture right now, so I don’t know the context, but a move adaptation of Snow Crash would be both great and timely. That’s my favorite Stephenson work.

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MsJ  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:14:10am

If anyone is interested, Groupon has some great deals for $7.00 (like tee shirts, 3-packs of guys undies, etc.)

groupon.com

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:14:43am

re: #97 Alephnaught

Heh, I like one of the replies:

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(Yeah, it’s probably because she’s leader of the host nation, but I thought it was funny.)

Hey, America’s still in the front row!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:15:55am

re: #95 covfefe

I just lov e all the out-of-staters who have become Illinois experts overnight. They are the same people who believe a flat tax is the way to go. Well. Illinois is absolute proof a flat income tax does NOT work.

Unfortunately, the Illinois constitution bars any income tax except a flat tax. Good luck at our getting a constitutional amendment to address this. At least the federal government is not so constrained.

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:18:47am

re: #102 darthstar

Hey, America’s still in the front row!

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:20:27am
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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:21:33am

Donald Trump is an ass kisser.

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:23:35am
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Belafon  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:26:37am

re: #106 darthstar

Donald Trump is an ass kisser.

I bet Trump has no clue he’s ever been taken advantage of. He probably thinks that everyone looks up to him and would never do anything to him. And especially now that he’s “President of the United States, the greatest country on Earth,” I bet he thinks that means he’ll get what he wants. I bet he thinks he’s in a better position than Putin.

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JordanRules  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:27:06am

re: #107 darthstar

I know it’s just a quick slice of a moment in this pic but he looks so inadequate. Like I can sense the insecurity and illegitimacy oozing out of him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:28:12am

re: #108 Belafon

I bet Trump has no clue he’s ever been taken advantage of. He probably thinks that everyone looks up to him and would never do anything to him. And especially now that he’s “President of the United States, the greatest country on Earth,” I bet he thinks that means he’ll get what he wants. I bet he thinks he’s in a better position than Putin.

He is still beaming from the reception he got in Warsaw and convinced that they are the New Europe…

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Birth Control Works  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:31:47am
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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:32:30am

re: #109 JordanRules

I know it’s just a quick slice of a moment in this pic but he looks so inadequate. Like I can sense the insecurity and illegitimacy oozing out of him.

And Merkel’s gentle guidance…your handlers are over here Donald…

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:33:59am

re: #112 darthstar

And Merkel’s gentle guidance…your handlers are over here Donald…

See the keys, shiny keys, comeon …

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Birth Control Works  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:35:06am
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Belafon  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:35:17am

re: #111 Birth Control Works

Ryan’s just jealous he can’t wear his workout tank-top to work.

How else is he going to get back to men running things and women and minorities knowing their place?

//

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:35:44am

re: #90 Belafon

“Assuming Hillary won, we were prepared to vote another 60 times on Obama-care repeal bills we knew wouldn’t be signed so we didn’t pay much attention to details.”

/

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:37:09am

re: #91 darthstar

I will represent our country well and fight for its interests! Fake News Media will never cover me accurately but who cares! We will #MAGA!

— Donald J. Trump

But Chris Cizilla says DJT’s Poland speech was really fantastic.

////

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b.d.  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:37:24am

BLS PRODUCES FAKE JOB NUMBERS!!

LOOK AT THOSE GREAT JOB NUMBERS!! MAGA!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:38:11am

re: #116 Sir John Barron

“Assuming Hillary won, we were prepared to vote another 60 times on Obama-care repeal bills we knew wouldn’t be signed so we didn’t pay much attention to details.”

/

we didn’t know what to do with the car once we caught it…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:38:13am

One more post about my state…

nprillinois.org

Someone has the right idea. And they are a democrat. Imagine that!

Rates have been proposed in separate bills. This year, that legislation is House Bill 689 and is sponsored by Skokie Democratic Rep. Lou Lang. Under that plan, tax rates would be reduced or remain the same for the vast majority of workers in the state, but they would spike sharply on income greater than $500,000 (for a single person with no children.) The bill would not affect corporate income tax rates. For more on how the rates would work under different scenarios, see this story.

Our flat tax system sucks.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:38:15am

re: #90 Belafon

“Sure, we had all these Obamacare-repeal bills out there, but that was all for the rubes who wanted us to do something.”

//

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b.d.  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:38:35am

re: #111 Birth Control Works

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Which Rep is going to defy Ryan and his arbitrary dress code? I hope all of them do on the same day.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:40:12am

re: #90 Belafon

“Hell, I didn’t expect to win my Senate race. I was gearing up for a nice wingnut welfare gig and now look where I’m stuck.”

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:41:03am

re: #122 b.d.

Which Rep is going to defy Ryan and his arbitrary dress code? I hope all of them do on the same day.

They were warned, and yet they persisted…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:41:28am

re: #91 darthstar

I will represent our country well and fight for its interests! Fake News Media will never cover me accurately but who cares! We will #MAGA!

— Donald J. Trump

Eagerly awaiting the day this doofus gets his first bigly loss.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:45:30am

Nary a day goes by when Trump or Ryan spew nonsense about how Obamacare is awful, and the Trump twits claim Obamacare sucks and it needs to be repealed.

Not a single one of them can identify how Trumpcare provides better coverage than before Obamacare, let alone the vastly improved coverage provided by Obamacare.

Rather, they all seem to fixate on the fact that you would have the freedom to go without coverage, which is rather curious since the individual mandate was meant to provide personal responsibility for your own coverage. It was created by the folks at Heritage as an inducement to get people covered. We see this with idiot Senators like Cornyn who think the freedom of Americans to get a medically induced bankruptcy is preferable to millionaires paying higher taxes.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:47:06am

So I”m about half way thru The Gift of Fear and the author is spot on on women’s issues. His wording is exquisite.

I’m a little concerned that what he calls “The Gift of Fear” is truly paranoia in the right-wing whacko types.

Other than that it’s a book everyone should read.

Thanks to the Lizard who recommended it.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:47:31am

re: #126 lawhawk

Nary a day goes by when Trump or Ryan spew nonsense about how Obamacare is awful, and the Trump twits claim Obamacare sucks and it needs to be repealed.

Not a single one of them can identify how Trumpcare provides better coverage than before Obamacare, let alone the vastly improved coverage provided by Obamacare.

Rather, they all seem to fixate on the fact that you would have the freedom to go without coverage, which is rather curious since the individual mandate was meant to provide personal responsibility for your own coverage. It was created by the folks at Heritage as an inducement to get people covered. We see this with idiot Senators like Cornyn who think the freedom of Americans to get a medically induced bankruptcy is preferable to millionaires paying higher taxes.

ZAPHOD’s job is to keep everyone distracted.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:48:32am

re: #126 lawhawk

Nary a day goes by when Trump or Ryan spew nonsense about how Obamacare is awful, and the Trump twits claim Obamacare sucks and it needs to be repealed.

Not a single one of them can identify how Trumpcare provides better coverage than before Obamacare, let alone the vastly improved coverage provided by Obamacare.

Rather, they all seem to fixate on the fact that you would have the freedom to go without coverage, which is rather curious since the individual mandate was meant to provide personal responsibility for your own coverage. It was created by the folks at Heritage as an inducement to get people covered. We see this with idiot Senators like Cornyn who think the freedom of Americans to get a medically induced bankruptcy is preferable to millionaires paying higher taxes.

Now Senator McTurtle is talking about the need for a bill to prop up the ACA markets if the GOP’s repeal bill fails, as if they GOP hasn’t been sabotaging the ACA markets for the past eight years.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:49:11am

Ursula K. Le Guin, “The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas” is one of the most anthologized short stories of all time.

Did I tell you my kid said it was require reading in is H.S.?

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Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:49:32am

It’s hot out there in Richmond, VA today, windy and humid too:

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Birth Control Works  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:50:12am

Have a private dog training session in a few. Feral Girl things that “Come” is optional.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:51:31am

Anyway, Illinois Lizards, I wanted to touch base with all of you.

Just to see where everyone is and to see if a meet-up were possible. Not something I wanted to do in a public forum.

I need to be surrounded by the “choir”.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:52:30am
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Birth Control Works  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:54:00am

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MsJ  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:56:10am

Gah. I just realized it’s my birthday today. 58. Double Gah.

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:56:52am

Holy shit…my wife just told me about this. Trump didn’t book a room for the G20 and all the luxury hotels said, “Sorry, we’re booked.” Germany had to put him up in a State Residence.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2017 • 6:59:07am

re: #136 MsJ

Gah. I just realized it’s my birthday today. 58. Double Gah.

Happy BDay. I know what you mean, I’ll be 56 in exactly 2 months (Sept. 7). Where has the time gone?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:00:07am

re: #137 darthstar

Holy shit…my wife just told me about this. Trump didn’t book a room for the G20 and all the luxury hotels said, “Sorry, we’re booked.” Germany had to put him up in a State Residence.

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No Trump property in Hamburg.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:00:24am

re: #137 darthstar

Holy shit…my wife just told me about this. Trump didn’t book a room for the G20 and all the luxury hotels said, “Sorry, we’re booked.” Germany had to put him up in a State Residence.

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Will just have to build one.

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:00:46am

My governor…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:01:41am

re: #141 darthstar

My governor…

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I’ll bet he even has hotel reservations.

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:01:55am

re: #140 Birth Control Works

Will just have to build one.

And I hope the TV in his room has basic local channels only.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:02:19am
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Birth Control Works  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:02:41am
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Birth Control Works  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:02:54am

bbl

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wheat-dogg  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:03:04am

re: #140 Birth Control Works

Will just have to build one.

Trump & Co. does not build hotels. They license the name to other developers’ properties.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:03:20am

re: #136 MsJ

HAPPY BURFDAY!!!

Sorry, I didn’t get you nuttin.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:04:29am

As someone mentioned earlier, regardless of what you think about their reporting Huffpo often has outstanding headlines. Right now it shows a picture of Trump and Putin and the HL reads “Trump Meets His Maker.”

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:07:31am

re: #137 darthstar

Yeah, that’s pretty fucking hilarious. The incompetence is boggling. Chief of Staff/Travel Office are supposed to prep these things months in advance (and these meetings are generally scheduled that far out). No one bothered to do the work necessary to make sure that the travel plans went smoothly.

It’s just another symptom of the incompetence that pervades the entire Trump admin.

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makeitstop  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:10:43am

re: #136 MsJ

Gah. I just realized it’s my birthday today. 58. Double Gah.

Happy Birthday! You and Ringo!

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:13:13am

re: #144 The Vicious Babushka

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:13:17am

re: #128 Birth Control Works

ZAPHOD’s job is to keep everyone distracted.

Trump understands that we would rather spend our time discussing his latest outrageous tweet, utterance or handshake than to take a hard look at what his policies and his appointees are doing to dismantle our country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:14:22am

re: #137 darthstar

Holy shit…my wife just told me about this. Trump didn’t book a room for the G20 and all the luxury hotels said, “Sorry, we’re booked.” Germany had to put him up in a State Residence.

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why not air b’n’b?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:14:52am

re: #142 Barefoot Grin

I’ll bet he even has hotel reservations.

He is couch surfing Europe

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:15:53am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:17:38am

re: #156 lawhawk

Oh, I’m sure it is.

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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:22:00am

re: #136 MsJ

Gah. I just realized it’s my birthday today. 58. Double Gah.

Happy Happy!

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wheat-dogg  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:22:10am

Home schooled girl goes to prom in nice dress-code appropriate dress, has to leave because the male chaperones can’t stop lusting after her.

hannahettinger.com

Though it does not mention as a possible reason (IMO) for her problems, the girl’s date is African-American. And the locale is Richmond, VA.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:23:12am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump understands that we would rather spend our time discussing his latest outrageous tweet, utterance or handshake than to take a hard look at what his policies and his appointees are doing to dismantle our country.

We can multitask.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:24:24am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:26:34am

Has anyone analysed Trump’s posture of sitting with his hands between his knees?

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b.d.  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:26:40am

[trump] Today we are giving Alaska back to Russia but no need for us to change the flag because we are also splitting Alabama into two states.. [/trump]

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MsJ  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:26:44am

re: #138 Eventual Carrion

Happy BDay. I know what you mean, I’ll be 56 in exactly 2 months (Sept. 7). Where has the time gone?

My grandmother said something to me years ago that always stuck with me. “I remember looking in the mirror one day and thinking ‘where did that old lady come from’”.

Yup. Exactly.

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b.d.  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:27:02am

re: #162 The Vicious Babushka

Has anyone analysed Trump’s posture of sitting with his hands between his knees?

It’s so hard to see his little hands…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:27:40am

re: #162 The Vicious Babushka

Has anyone analysed Trump’s posture of sitting with his hands between his knees?

protecting his balls

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MsJ  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:28:16am

re: #148 Shropshire Slasher

HAPPY BURFDAY!!!

Sorry, I didn’t get you nuttin.

That’ll suffice! Thanks!

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lizardofid  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:29:12am

re: #137 darthstar

Holy shit…my wife just told me about this. Trump didn’t book a room for the G20 and all the luxury hotels said, “Sorry, we’re booked.” Germany had to put him up in a State Residence.

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I guess he could have slept on the plane.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:30:03am

re: #162 The Vicious Babushka

Has anyone analysed Trump’s posture of sitting with his hands between his knees?

It’s probably something his dad or Roy Cohn told him to do: ‘sit on the edge of your seat so you’ll look like the alpha, the man of action.’

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MsJ  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:30:41am

re: #150 lawhawk

Yeah, that’s pretty fucking hilarious. The incompetence is boggling. Chief of Staff/Travel Office are supposed to prep these things months in advance (and these meetings are generally scheduled that far out). No one bothered to do the work necessary to make sure that the travel plans went smoothly.

It’s just another symptom of the incompetence that pervades the entire Trump admin.

My one takeaway from reading through Foreign Policy today. We are really in a bad place. The incompetence is stunning (and not just the US [Looking at you Ms May]) and scary.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:30:44am

re: #163 b.d.

[trump] Today we are giving Alaska back to Russia but no need for us to change the flag because we are also splitting Alabama into two states.. [/trump]

All Putin really wants is the northern part of Alaska and the Aleutian islands. That’s not that big of a deal.

//

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Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:30:57am

re: #159 wheat-dogg

Home schooled girl goes to prom in nice dress-code appropriate dress, has to leave because the male chaperones can’t stop lusting after her.

hannahettinger.com

Though it does not mention as a possible reason (IMO) for her problems, the girl’s date is African-American. And the locale is Richmond, VA.

Deja vu or is that from a couple years ago?

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Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:31:52am

re: #145 Birth Control Works

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To quote every parent ever, “look with your eyes, not your hands, Mike.”

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:32:43am

re: #162 The Vicious Babushka

Has anyone analysed Trump’s posture of sitting with his hands between his knees?

The problem isn’t that we are studying his posture or handshake, it’s that Trump doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about and he’s entering into a discussion with a savvy foreign leader who takes advantage of people like Trump every fucking day.

And yet there are idiots who think Trump will best Putin here?

These are the people who advise Trump and tell Trump what he wants to hear. They aren’t advisers. They’re sycophants who are as clueless as Trump.

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jeffreyw  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:34:03am

re: #136 MsJ

Gah. I just realized it’s my birthday today. 58. Double Gah.

Imgur

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calochortus  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:35:33am

re: #136 MsJ

Gah. I just realized it’s my birthday today. 58. Double Gah.

Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday dear MsJ
Happy Birthday to you.

My special gift to you is that you don’t have to hear me sing it. ;)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:35:41am

re: #174 lawhawk

The problem isn’t that we are studying his posture or handshake, it’s that Trump doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about and he’s entering into a discussion with a savvy foreign leader who takes advantage of people like Trump every fucking day.

And yet there are idiots who think Trump will best Putin here?

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These are the people who advise Trump and tell Trump what he wants to hear. They aren’t advisers. They’re sycophants who are as clueless as Trump.

Lol yeah Trump is going to own Putin.

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MsJ  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:36:16am

re: #159 wheat-dogg

Home schooled girl goes to prom in nice dress-code appropriate dress, has to leave because the male chaperones can’t stop lusting after her.

hannahettinger.com

Though it does not mention as a possible reason (IMO) for her problems, the girl’s date is African-American. And the locale is Richmond, VA.

There was not a thing wrong with that dress. It was downright matronly compared to some dresses I’ve seen for prom (dresses which I’d burn if I had a daughter who tried to wear it).

Poor kid.

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calochortus  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:39:02am

re: #169 Barefoot Grin

It’s probably something his dad or Roy Cohn told him to do: ‘sit on the edge of your seat so you’ll look like the alpha, the man of action.’

Problem is, an alpha would be sitting back, relaxed, with an open posture. He looks very beta to me-looking for an opening to move up. 71 is too old and POTUS is to high up to be looking for that kind of advancement. It just looks stupid.
And Trump looked exhausted in most of the shots of him yesterday. Sad.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:39:25am

Our so-called president said this yesterday in Poland:

After chastising CNN — a go-to move on both sides of the Atlantic — Mr. Trump went after NBC, his former employer. “NBC is nearly as bad, despite the fact that I made them a lot of money on ‘The Apprentice,’ ” he said.

I realize this goes without saying, and that this slurp of derp is par for the course with DJT, but dTrupr is basically saying here that, just because he made NBC a lot of money, their news coverage of him should be more favorable, i.e. slanted towards him.

This is a profoundly unserious person and when our press fails to challenge this they collude however unwittingly with the whole farce.

But it’s unsurprising Drumpf is starting to single out NBC. Either before or after these comments, Hallie Jackson of NBC challenged him on his refusal to assent to the U.S. IC conclusions as to the source of the election hacking.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:41:27am

They’re going to talk about Russia because PUTIN IS THE FUCKING LEADER OF RUSSIA.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:41:39am

re: #180 Sir John Barron

Our so-called president said this yesterday in Poland:

I realize this goes without saying, and that this slurp of derp is par for the course with DJT, but dTrupr is basically saying here that, just because he made NBC a lot of money, their news coverage of him should be more favorable, i.e. slanted towards him.

This is a profoundly unserious person and when our press fails to challenge this they collude however unwittingly with the whole farce.

But it’s unsurprising Drumpf is starting to single out NBC. Either before or after these comments, Hallie Jackson of NBC challenged him on his refusal to assent to the U.S. IC conclusions as to the source of the election hacking.

Oh yes, so presidential, I remember when Abe Lincoln mocked the Pony Express when he met with Queen Victoria.

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MsJ  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:42:21am

re: #169 Barefoot Grin

It’s probably something his dad or Roy Cohn told him to do: ‘sit on the edge of your seat so you’ll look like the alpha, the man of action.’

More likely because he can’t get up, without looking like the old man he is, if he sits back. He’s in pretty bad shape. I know what we look like when we get up sometimes. And he’s older than we are.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:42:41am

re: #181 The Vicious Babushka

They’re going to talk about Russia because PUTIN IS THE FUCKING LEADER OF RUSSIA.

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FNC- Lowering the bar for journalism always. WTF. It must hurt to be that stupid.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:43:43am

re: #172 Timothy Watson

Deja vu or is that from a couple years ago?

My bad. From 3 years ago. It popped up in my Facebook feed

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:43:59am

re: #181 The Vicious Babushka

They’re going to talk about Russia because PUTIN IS THE FUCKING LEADER OF RUSSIA.

And the RWNJ are completely unconcerned with Russian hacking an American political party and interfering in the U.S. electoral process, and of any collusion between an American political party and a foreign power.

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MsJ  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:44:20am

re: #185 wheat-dogg

My bad. From 3 years ago. It popped up in my Facebook feed

Still sad no matter when it happened.

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lizardofid  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:45:46am

re: #183 MsJ

More likely because he can’t get up, without looking like the old man he is, if he sits back. He’s in pretty bad shape. I know what we look like when we get up sometimes. And he’s older than we are.

LOL, I can relate to that. When I get out of my recliner, I look like I’m trying to swim out of an overcoat!

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makeitstop  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:45:47am

Eric Garland is fire this morning. Thread.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:45:52am

Preserving Western Civilization. Euphemism for preserving power for white Christian guys who have always held power and fortunes.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:46:11am

re: #181 The Vicious Babushka

They’re going to talk about Russia because PUTIN IS THE FUCKING LEADER OF RUSSIA.

Does FNC tweet anything even slightly contradictory to the TrumpGOP line?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:46:35am
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wheat-dogg  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:46:42am

re: #187 MsJ

Still sad no matter when it happened.

Indeed. The dress was modest by modern standards. In her post she says there were girls there with more revealing dresses who were not hassled. That’s why I suspect she was singled out because of her date, but she says her height (5’9”) may have also been a factor.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:47:01am

re: #190 lawhawk

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Preserving Western Civilization. Euphemism for preserving power for white Christian guys who have always held power and fortunes.

Thing is, what used to be “white supremacist dog whistles” are now “conservative talking points”.

What were once vices are now habits.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:47:24am

re: #186 Sir John Barron

And the RWNJ are completely unconcerned with Russian hacking an American political party and interfering in the U.S. electoral process, and of any collusion between an American political party and a foreign power.

They don’t care because they won. That’s the only reason. Party first, all else second.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:48:22am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Thing is, what used to be “white supremacist dog whistles” are now “conservative talking points”.

What were once vices are now habits.

George Wallace circa 1968 would be a huge hit with the GOP electorate of 2016.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:48:57am

re: #189 makeitstop

There were translators in the meeting Trump and the SoS had with Putin and his foreign affairs head.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:49:47am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

George Wallace circa 1968 would be a huge hit with the GOP electorate of 2016.

HURR HURR WALLACE WAS A DEMOCRAT LIBTARD!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:50:00am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

George Wallace circa 1968 would be a huge hit with the GOP electorate of 2016.

His talking points and agenda certainly are…

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lizardofid  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:50:15am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Thing is, what used to be “white supremacist dog whistles” are now “conservative talking points”.

What were once vices are now habits.

Special Ups for the Doobie Brothers!

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MsJ  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:50:37am

re: #193 wheat-dogg

Indeed. The dress was modest by modern standards. In her post she says there were girls there with more revealing dresses who were not hassled. That’s why I suspect she was singled out because of her date, but she says her height (5’9”) may have also been a factor.

If the photo she posted in the mirror was the same dress (which it looks like), her height is irrelevant. The dress came below mid-thigh. Would it have been longer on someone shorter? Sure. But it wasn’t “too” short by any standards other than Flashdance types.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:50:49am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

His talking points and agenda certainly are…

Trump basically is Wallace without the experience and the potential to become a decent human being.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:51:04am

re: #175 jeffreyw

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Congradumalashuns! Many happy returns.

You’ve only got me by one, and I just sent a birthday card to my mother, so you should be good for a couple more weeks. /s

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:52:36am

re: #189 makeitstop

Eric Garland is fire this morning. Thread.

Well, I’d bet an arm and a leg that DumpF doesn’t speak Russian. He barely speaks English.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:54:17am

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR WALLACE WAS A DEMOCRAT LIBTARD!

Heh so was Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:56:07am

re: #195 HappyWarrior

They don’t care because they won. That’s the only reason. Party first, all else second.

That, and it was reported the RNC was hacked as well. If that is so, then the folks involved may have powerful extortion tools on the Republican Party or its politicians.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:57:41am

re: #206 Anymouse 🌹

That, and it was reported the RNC was hacked as well. If that is so, then the folks involved may have powerful extortion tools on the Republican Party or its politicians.

That’s a very good point as well.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2017 • 7:58:17am

re: #136 MsJ

Gah. I just realized it’s my birthday today. 58. Double Gah.

I’ll be 64 in a month. Tell me your sorrows. And get off my lawn.

(Happy birthday!)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:00:18am

Rachel Maddow warns: People are trying to fool the media with forged documents
The MSNBC host says that she was sent a false NSA document so that she could discredit herself by reporting it

It worked so well with Dan Rather and CBS in disarming the Bush no-show military service scandal…

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:00:19am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:01:24am

re: #210 FormerDirtDart

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Fucking asshole.

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CongoJack  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:02:06am

re: #210 FormerDirtDart

Wow. That is disgusting. If this was a rational administration their WH press credentials would be pulled in an instant.

How is this not 100 times worse than what Kathy Griffin did?

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Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:02:14am

re: #210 FormerDirtDart

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But don’t use the word “jihad” in a speech.

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:04:38am

re: #210 FormerDirtDart

What a disgusting piece of shit Lucien is.

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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:04:58am

re: #191 Sir John Barron

Does FNC tweet anything even slightly contradictory to the TrumpGOP line?

Hahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!

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calochortus  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:05:29am

re: #208 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I’ll be 64 in a month. Tell me your sorrows. And get off my lawn.

(Happy birthday!)

I turned 64 in May. I’m eagerly awaiting 65 and Medicare. I’m tired of waiting to find out how much I’ll be paying for my health insurance every year… It ain’t cheap since I am among the privileged folks who pay full freight. (And I mean privileged in an unironic sense because we do have the money to pay for it. I’ll enjoy paying far less, though.)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:07:35am

re: #212 CongoJack

Wow. That is disgusting. If this was a rational administration their WH press credentials would be pulled in an instant.

How is this not 100 times worse than what Kathy Griffin did?

Because the building isn’t Trump.

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:08:21am

Trump says he’s ‘honored’ to meet Putin.
Putin says he’s ‘delighted’ to meet Trump.

Which leader understands the meaning of words?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:08:24am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

Because the building isn’t Trump.

How about portraying Trump as Brutus and CNN as Julius Caesar?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:08:44am
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calochortus  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:09:12am

re: #218 darthstar

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Trump says he’s ‘honored’ to meet Putin.
Putin says he’s ‘delighted’ to meet Trump.

Which leader understands the meaning of words?

Probably both, in this case.

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:09:31am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:09:39am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How about portraying Trump as Brutus and CNN as Julius Caesar?

Hurr, hurr that would be funny!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:09:43am

re: #218 darthstar

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Trump says he’s ‘honored’ to meet Putin.
Putin says he’s ‘delighted’ to meet Trump.

Which leader understands the meaning of words?

Things that make us go?

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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:10:23am

re: #206 Anymouse 🌹

That, and it was reported the RNC was hacked as well. If that is so, then the folks involved may have powerful extortion tools on the Republican Party or its politicians.

I am hoping Putin lets Donny know he can tell his Republican buddies Russia knows all about all the GOP politicians, we have all their emails.

I’d like to see the entire party dance around that after they’ve been so cocksure it is only a DNC issue.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:11:05am

re: #216 calochortus

Good point. I have group insurance through my former employer (who pay 70%), so I’m cushioned, but I pay attention to “outside” premiums. Good thing we live in CA.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:12:13am

re: #216 calochortus

I turned 64 in May. I’m eagerly awaiting 65 and Medicare. I’m tired of waiting to find out how much I’ll be paying for my health insurance every year… It ain’t cheap since I am among the privileged folks who pay full freight. (And I mean privileged in an unironic sense because we do have the money to pay for it. I’ll enjoy paying far less, though.)

I’ll be 70 next month and am fortunate to live less than ten miles from the excellent VA facility in Ann Arbor. I joined it when I retired three years ago and it has been better than great. In 2016 I had three ER visits, two hospital stays, three urgent care issues, and numerous checkups, labs, and the like - for which my *only* cost is a small co-pay on prescription drugs, which are expeditiously mailed to me when I refresh my order on line. That’s why I say #VAcare4all!

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:13:03am
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makeitstop  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:13:53am

This motherfucker’s gonna give away the store.

(BTW, the report comes from….a leak.)

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:14:28am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:15:00am

Good Morning! Pulled an almost all night photo session, got to bed about 3 am. I went up to Mt Wilson, late enough the Observatory and grounds are closed. Whole ‘nother look at night.

Last nights moon

Working up a Page.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:15:32am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How about portraying Trump as Brutus and CNN as Julius Caesar?

Aha!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:15:38am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:15:49am

re: #218 darthstar

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Trump says he’s ‘honored’ to meet Putin.
Putin says he’s ‘delighted’ to meet Trump.

Which leader understands the meaning of words?

Good catch.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:16:41am

This is your Alpha Male, Trumpers. A man whose head is firmly placed up Vlad Putin’s tiny asshole.

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calochortus  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:16:52am

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

That’s “breaking news?” Oh. The fact that they’re admitting it might be.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:17:14am

re: #210 FormerDirtDart

Do they realize Trump has been cast as al-Qaida? (Maybe they should have put a US flag on the buildings, for verisimilitude.)

Why yes, I’m feeling snarky today.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:17:29am

I have no particular objection to the term “Social Justice Warrior.” I’m all for social justice. (Perhaps we could do away with the term “warrior,” but social justice is a good thing.)

That said, like any ideology or movement, moonbats, wingnuts, and just plain uneducated people will latch on to promote some ridiculous agenda (see Flat Earthers).

There was an incident at the University of Cape Town, where students met with the faculty to air grievances. That’s fine… .

However, a woman expressed the idea that “science is racist” and it should be scrapped, and rebuilt from an African perspective. Science she asserts should allow for opinions that are different than “Western knowledge” and should be “decolonised” (as if science was an imperialist land-grab).

Have their been racist scientists? Sure. Have education systems been jury-rigged to prohibit minorities (or the majority since this is from South Africa)? Hell yes. Has pseudoscience been used to advance racist causes? Yup. Is a method for understanding evidence inherently racist? Nope, nope, nope.

This woman was taken apart by scores of people on YouTube for trying to do things like placing “black magic” on the same shelf as science.

I picked one video (by Thunderf00t) though there are many by people from all continents and races dragging this woman for her stunning ignorance (while she uses a tablet computer to drag out her talking points).

ABOLISH ALL SCIENCE ‘COS ITS RACIST! -SJW University Student

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:18:41am

re: #236 calochortus

That’s “breaking news?” Oh. The fact that they’re admitting it might be.

They are softening us up for the inevitable. O’Connel wanted to use the break to get GOP donors to put the screws to wavering Congresspeople, but the voters at home are making it clear that they are not going to but it…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:18:42am

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

[Media]How come Dems won’t help? Why won’t Dems be bipartisan? Obamacare is failing. Dems are being too obstructionist. [/Media]

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:18:46am
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MsJ  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:19:17am

re: #212 CongoJack

Wow. That is disgusting. If this was a rational administration their WH press credentials would be pulled in an instant.

How is this not 100 times worse than what Kathy Griffin did?

3000+ times worse.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:19:30am

re: #237 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Do they realize Trump has been cast as al-Qaida? (Maybe they should have put a US flag on the buildings, for verisimilitude.)

Why yes, I’m feeling snarky today.

Or that Trump would be taking himself out in the process and the WTC itself has been rebuilt as the Freedom Tower. I don’t think Lucas thought this out.

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MsJ  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:20:40am

re: #222 darthstar

He deleted it. What was it?

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:26:58am

Heh…Trump’s courtesy accommodation is right where he is most useful to Putin

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:27:52am
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makeitstop  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:31:59am

Today in bugs

The sting from a Tarantula Hawk is so painful that the recommended treatment by biologist Justin O. Schmidt is to simply “lie down and scream.” Thankfully, the creature doesn’t come in contact with humans too often, though they are common in the southern United States.

It’s the state insect of New Mexico!

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calochortus  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:34:29am

BBL

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:35:41am
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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:40:13am

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

Fox News ✔ @FoxNews
BREAKING NEWS: @SenateMajLdr says GOP may not be able to pass health care bill.
11:14 AM - 7 Jul 2017

Yay! I hope they end up having to fix the ACA. That is going to hurt the GOP and Trump bigly. It’s not a sure thing yet, but looking better.

I guess the big bad GOP didn’t have all the power and money moves many here were saying they would use to force this legislation down everyone’s throats.

It is still politics. Votes still count, they want to hold their offices and the people were riding them hard.

And as stated in the past by many a politician…once it is the law it will be hard to eliminate it.

I think some guy by the name of Obama and a powerful little lady named Pelosi wrote it well enough to stick. Unlike the GOP, they knew legislation and the law.

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:40:36am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:43:03am

re: #251 darthstar

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It could be anyone. It could be Mexico. //

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:44:25am

re: #136 MsJ

Gah. I just realized it’s my birthday today. 58. Double Gah.

Very Happy Birthday, young ‘un!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:46:12am

re: #247 makeitstop

Today in bugs

It’s the state insect of New Mexico!

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No, no, no.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:46:23am
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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:46:40am

re: #246 darthstar

Chris Jackson @ChrisCJackson
Putin grabbing America by the pussy.
10:46 AM - 7 Jul 2017
11 11 Retweets 18 18 likes

I think that should be written as: Putin grabs America’s biggest dick to show he is really a big puss.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:47:45am

I recommend reading his TL

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:47:47am

re: #255 FormerDirtDart

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He’s such a fucking clown.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:48:23am

Sigh why does this asshole have to be our President. Sigh.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:48:24am

Huffington Post’s banner headline at the moment, on an article about Mr. Trump meeting Mr. Putin:

Trump Meets His Maker

I do like their headline writers …

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:48:36am

re: #255 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:48:38am

re: #260 Anymouse 🌹

Huffington Post’s banner headline at the moment, on an article about Mr. Trump meeting Mr. Putin:

Trump Meets His Maker

I do like their headline writers …

Oh, that’s brilliant.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:49:07am

re: #250 ObserverArt

Yay! I hope they end up having to fix the ACA. That is going to hurt the GOP and Trump bigly. It’s not a sure thing yet, but looking better.

I think some guy by the name of Obama and a powerful little lady named Pelosi wrote it well enough to stick. Unlike the GOP, they knew legislation and the law.

We still have to apply pressure so that they won’t sneak something through in the middle of the night and that they will work honestly with Dems to mend the flaws in the ACA. The House bill was dead until it wasn’t. Never underestimate the malevolence of the GOP.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:51:08am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:52:14am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:52:21am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Sigh why does this asshole have to be our President. Sigh.

Some fifty thousand voters in three states, plus the majority that didn’t vote at all because either “the government doesn’t affect me” or “both sides are the same”

The GOP’s forty-year propaganda campaign has been a helluva drug.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:53:38am

re: #265 FormerDirtDart

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Programming taking longer than expected due to aged brain.

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scottslemmons  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:54:12am

re: #210 FormerDirtDart

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Does Wintrich just never leave his house? I can just imagine his neighbors lying in wait for him with pipe wrenches. God knows it’s what I’d do.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:55:21am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹

Some fifty thousand voters in three states, plus the majority that didn’t vote at all because either “the government doesn’t affect me” or “both sides are the same”

The GOP’s forty-year propaganda campaign has been a helluva drug.

Rhetorical question.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:55:30am

re: #265 FormerDirtDart

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:55:41am
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mmmirele  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:55:42am

re: #126 lawhawk

My congresscritter, first-termer Rep. Andy “I won $10 million in the Publishers Clearing House Sweepstakes” Biggs, goes on about how awful ACA is every day on his FB. His constituents, including me, regularly give him hell about that.

If I didn’t have a questionable background and didn’t need health insurance to manage my chronic ailments, I’d take a run against him in 2018. He’s just that bad. He’s completely up Trump’s hindquarters.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:55:59am

re: #265 FormerDirtDart

Taking longer than expected to get and understand his marching orders.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:56:21am

re: #271 goddamnedfrank

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Heh appears to me that Pence was the one reaching here.

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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:57:00am

re: #263 Hecuba’s daughter

We still have to apply pressure so that they won’t sneak something through in the middle of the night and that they will work honestly with Dems to mend the flaws in the ACA. The House bill was dead until it wasn’t. Never underestimate the malevolence of the GOP.

I never do. I also do not give them credit they do not deserve.

Sure we need to keep the pressure on. It is that real pressure from real voters that is helping. I am going to compose my fourth email to Robby Portman on healthcare to help keep that pressure going, probably send it out over the weekend.

You bring up the House bill, saying it wasn’t dead. It sure as hell was not alive was it? Everyone knew that piece of crap wasn’t going anywhere…it was all a show for Donny to get his win. Even he said it was mean a few weeks later. The Senate knew it was up to them to actually come up with something as they knew the House bill was a dud. And what has the Senate come up with?

FAIL!

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:57:34am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:57:49am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹

Some fifty thousand voters in three states, plus the majority that didn’t vote at all because either “the government doesn’t affect me” or “both sides are the same”

The GOP’s forty-year propaganda campaign has been a helluva drug.

You have forgotten the effects of voter disenfranchisement and voter suppression in Republican run states. Certainly made a difference in Wisconsin and, I believe, Michigan. And the outcome may have been affected in other states too.

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b.d.  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:57:57am

re: #276 Ace-o-aces

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Use your hand Donnie!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:59:17am

re: #250 ObserverArt

Yay! I hope they end up having to fix the ACA. That is going to hurt the GOP and Trump bigly. It’s not a sure thing yet, but looking better.

I guess the big bad GOP didn’t have all the power and money moves many here were saying they would use to force this legislation down everyone’s throats.

It is still politics. Votes still count, they want to hold their offices and the people were riding them hard.

And as stated in the past by many a politician…once it is the law it will be hard to eliminate it.

I think some guy by the name of Obama and a powerful little lady named Pelosi wrote it well enough to stick. Unlike the GOP, they knew legislation and the law.

Yes, after ratf0cking the ACA markets for eight years with an eye towards repealing it later or just for the hell of it, the GOP now faces the task of needing to keep those markets working because it realizes it has non-corporate constituents.

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mmmirele  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:59:23am

re: #141 darthstar

My governor…

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I bet he had reservations for a hotel.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:59:58am

re: #192 The Vicious Babushka

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He forgot to genuflect.

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Interesting Times  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:01:57am

re: #270 Stanley Sea

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I would’ve thought Putin had a plan to use some kind of reverse psychology, i.e. act like his puppet was all tough on him and pretend to make concessions to the US when in reality, the exact opposite was happening…

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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:02:19am

re: #271 goddamnedfrank

Frankly My Dear 🐁 @goddamnedfrank
Today while visiting NASA Mike Pence confused outer space w/ heaven, Mars w/ an enemy battlefield & “DO NOT TOUCH” FOR “MUST TOUCH NOW!” pic.twitter.com

Mike Pence as cat…

Touch the fishy

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Lidane  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:02:27am

Keepin’ it classy, yo:

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MsJ  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:03:42am

re: #283 ObserverArt

Mike Pence as cat…

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My all time fav video! Now that’s a birthday present! (I’ll be back after watching it a few hundred times. 😂)

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:05:14am

re: #284 Lidane

Hoft’s dumbassery is coming from all quarters today.

You’ve got Lucian’s idiocy, and then Joe (his brother):

There’s a reason he’s SMOTI.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:05:30am

re: #284 Lidane

Keepin’ it classy, yo:

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Lucien Wintrich: Meth addict hobbit

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I cannot.  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:05:54am
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:08:08am

Lowbrow humor is fun.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:08:34am

re: #288 I cannot.

Opening mouth and removing all doubt that Lucian’s head is permanently in a rectal-cranial inversion.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:08:53am

re: #288 I cannot.

Didn’t he have the twin towers as CNN, though?

Although I have no doubt that RWNJ have long hated CNN and MSNBC, it’s nonetheless been interesting how quickly and thoroughly they’ve followed Drumpf’s lead in making CNN and other nonconforming networks the special subject of their wrath.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:11:01am

In my E-mail this morning, an article from Foreign Affairs (I subscribe to the print magazine because I am part of the evil Council on Foreign Relations and associated with the Illuminati and Lizard People - see LGF for the latter):

How a Chinese Billionaire Threatens the Communist Party

arlier this year, Guo Wengui, an expatriate Chinese billionaire, began to make explosive allegations on YouTube and Twitter about China’s leaders. President Xi Jinping, Guo claimed, had sought incriminating information about Wang Qishan, Xi’s right-hand man and the chief of his anticorruption campaign. The figure tasked with rooting out China’s official graft, Guo suggested, was himself corrupt—if not directly, then through his family’s alleged financial holdings.

Guo’s claims seemed designed to sever China’s most important political relationship before this fall’s 19th Party Congress, where officials will determine Xi’s longevity as president and select members for China’s top decision-making bodies. Xi’s power rests in part on Wang’s anticorruption campaign, and any deterioration in the relationship between the two men-real or perceived-could embolden Xi’s rivals or rattle his supporters, who may defect to his opponents.

Guo has neither named a source nor provided conclusive evidence for his claims, and their validity is unclear. Nevertheless, the allegations have signaled the emergence of a new tool in Chinese politics: weaponized leaks. As the infighting within the Chinese Communist Party has intensified, Guo has shown, elites can undermine their rivals by implicating them in the widespread collusion between China’s political and economic leaders.

(More at Foreign Affairs)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:11:04am

re: #288 I cannot.

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Of course, he has a right to but the silence from the people flipping over Caesar OTOH.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:17:55am

re: #277 Hecuba’s daughter

You have forgotten the effects of voter disenfranchisement and voter suppression in Republican run states. Certainly made a difference in Wisconsin and, I believe, Michigan. And the outcome may have been affected in other states too.

There is that as well. In a state like mine, which is very unlikely to go for a Democratic candidate, the legislature works as hard as possible to ensure all voters can vote (we’ve had mail voting long before Oregon and Washington proposed it, for example).

Here, they just gerrymandered the most-likely Democratic House district (the one that went for President Obama in 2008 and put a Democratic representative in the US House) since our electoral votes are divided by district rather than winner-take-all. (It is possible to gerrymander the two state votes in NE and ME by gerrymandering the House districts).

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MsJ  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:27:14am

This is the funniest thing you’ll read today. Honest.

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:29:22am

re: #289 goddamnedfrank

Lowbrow humor is fun.

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Trump’s going to be in a bad mood if he can’t bring Putin to climax.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:35:45am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:36:23am

re: #297 darthstar

Trump’s going to be in a bad mood if he can’t bring Putin to climax.

Low brow humor is fun, but there was another good one I saw:

“Meeting taking so long because Trump doesn’t know how to quit Putin.”

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:39:17am
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:40:45am

re: #257 Dr. Matt

I recommend reading his TL

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Well he did have to reach up Putin’s ass to do the slapping.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:41:24am

re: #297 darthstar

Trump’s going to be in a bad mood if he can’t bring Putin to climax.

Tiny hands will do that….

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:41:48am

Everyone thankful it didn’t last 4 hours; there’d be the need for emergency medical services at that point…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:42:57am

re: #296 MsJ

This is the funniest thing you’ll read today. Honest.

Has to be a Trump-owned restaurant.

/

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retired cynic  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:42:59am

re: #133 Birth Control Works

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:44:18am
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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:45:16am

The devil is always in the details, so take anything stated with a grain of salt.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:45:34am

re: #303 lawhawk

Trump-Putin meeting is over after about 2 hours and 20 minutes. Was scheduled to last for 30 minutes.

— Bradd Jaffy

Well, are the rest of the dummy G20 leaders talking about the dumb climate stuff? Orange Lord’s Putin meeting had to extend beyond the dummy weather talk which is lame.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:48:09am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:48:18am

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:48:56am

re: #307 lawhawk

JUST IN: US and Russia reach deal for Syria ceasefire thehill.com pic.twitter.com

— The Hill

Makes it sound like the Syrian conflict was a Cold-War-like proxy war between the two Superpowers and not something a little more complicated than that.

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b.d.  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:49:21am

re: #303 lawhawk

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Everyone thankful it didn’t last 4 hours; there’d be the need for emergency medical services at that point…

2 hours and 20 minutes? The Pee tape must be longer than I’d thought?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:49:43am

re: #307 lawhawk

The U.S. and Russia have brokered temporary cease-fires in the past, including one reached in September under former President Obama’s administration.

Oh.

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:49:52am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:50:46am

re: #313 Sir John Barron

Oh.

Hurr, hurr Obama never got a cease-fire like our Great Lord MAGA Trump!

Seriously, I wonder what we gave up to get even this.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:51:31am

re: #315 Sir John Barron

Hurr, hurr Obama never got a cease-fire like our Great Lord MAGA Trump!

Seriously, I wonder what we gave up to get even this.

Well, national dignity for starters….

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:55:56am

re: #315 Sir John Barron

Hurr, hurr Obama never got a cease-fire like our Great Lord MAGA Trump!

Seriously, I wonder what we gave up to get even this.

Been so many cease fire attempts in Syria in the last year and a half there’s a Wikipedia page that lists them all…
en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:05:02am

some folks are having lots of fun with this photo.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:06:04am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

some folks are having lots of fun with this photo.

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Somebody should photoshop boobs on that thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:07:53am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:08:30am

The “Failing” CNN reports:

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CongoJack  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:09:09am

re: #314 darthstar

Those be some small hands.

Guess I see why Trump loves him some Putin. They can share gloves and accessories!

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Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:09:55am

re: #247 makeitstop

Today in bugs

It’s the state insect of New Mexico!

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I hate cazadores.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:10:48am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Under President Donald Trump, American security will be as dominant in the heavens as we are here on Earth,” VP Pence says pic.twitter.com

— CBS News

Except for Russia fecking with our nukes in places like Kansas….

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:11:44am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Under President Donald Trump, American security will be as dominant in the heavens as we are here on Earth,” VP Pence says pic.twitter.com

— CBS News

We’ll let countries like Russia hack our political, electoral and media computer networks, but besides that, America will be bigly secure!

/

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:13:10am

re: #296 MsJ

This is the funniest thing you’ll read today. Honest.

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Not the comments I put there - I’m just not good with Wonkette-style snark. That article is a first-class hoot.

I’m wondering how long before the Health Department and CPS raid that restaurant, followed by the wailing and gnashing of teeth, rending of garments, and complaining about all the “haters of vegans” at that place.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:13:39am

re: #299 Barefoot Grin

Low brow humor is fun, but there was another good one I saw:

“Meeting taking so long because Trump doesn’t know how to quit Putin.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:14:20am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Simpsons - The Moon Of Earth

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:15:38am

re: #326 Anymouse 🌹

Not the comments I put there - I’m just not good with Wonkette-style snark. That article is a first-class hoot.

I’m wondering how long before the Health Department and CPS raid that restaurant, followed by the wailing and gnashing of teeth, rending of garments, and complaining about all the “haters of vegans” at that place.

This image from the comments made me genuinely LOL. It jibes with my dark sense of humor.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:18:20am

re: #310 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:18:42am

re: #327 Stanley Sea

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:19:11am

re: #329 Dr Lizardo

mmmmmm… Schwarma / gyro ….

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:20:36am

Devil in the details about ceasefire…

It relates to an issue that isn’t important to the US, but important to Russia:

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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:21:15am

re: #307 lawhawk

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The devil is always in the details, so take anything stated with a grain of salt.

Another cease fire in the ME. Grains of salt are standard fare.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:22:27am

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

2 hours?

When CC is involved it’s more like 5 minutes!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:25:37am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:26:12am

More on Shapiro’s article:

He shoots himself in the foot by his claim “there are moral atheists and immoral Christians.”

It would appear then that religion is not a pathway to morality, a point lost on Mr. Shapiro.

And …

But as a system of thought, atheism cannot be the basis for any functional state.

Fail. Atheism is not a system of thought: It is a lack of belief in any gods. I would suppose Mr. Shapiro is just as atheistic about Kali as I am, though Kali has hundreds of millions of believers.

As it is only a statement on the position of belief in a god, of course it can’t be the basis of a functional state.

At best, I would argue Shapiro has less of an education than I do. At worst, he’s lying about atheists and building a strawman of atheism, like hundreds of millions of Christian apologists before him. I won’t waste my time deconstructing his article, and if I were to E-mail him he would ignore it because it doesn’t fit his religious views. If I were to comment at Town Hall I would simply be banned.

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JordanRules  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:29:29am

re: #336 Charles Johnson

Oh hell no.

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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:31:45am

re: #314 darthstar

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And Angela signs a familiar tune of an old American pop hit by Stealers Wheel but with a word change…

An Orange clown to the left of me…
A KGB bully to my right…
Here we all are stuck with these two

Trying to make some sense of it all,
But I can see it makes no sense at all
Is it cool to just run right out the door?
‘Cause I don’t think that I can take anymore

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makeitstop  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:32:19am

The return of the spy complexes is just gravy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:32:42am

Well, that settles it then. CONFIRMED! FACT! Suck on it, FAKE NEWS LIBTARDS!!!!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:32:46am

re: #336 Charles Johnson

I still remember the Firedoggers, Berniebots and Jill Shills who loved tearing Obama to pieces alleging he traded everything away to Republicans and got nothing in return.

Now I wonder what Dolt 45 didn’t give away to His Master in their meeting?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:33:18am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

Well, that settles it then. CONFIRMED! FACT! Suck on it, FAKE NEWS LIBTARDS!!!!

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Trusts Putin’s word more than our own Intel community. The fuck man.

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:34:06am
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Stanley Sea  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:35:20am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

Well, that settles it then. CONFIRMED! FACT! Suck on it, FAKE NEWS LIBTARDS!!!!

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I don’t believe Tillerson’s statement/read out.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:35:57am

re: #340 makeitstop

The return of the spy complexes is just gravy.

Did DJT give them back to Russia?

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JordanRules  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:37:08am

re: #343 HappyWarrior

He and his cult do not like or respect their own country. This shouldn’t be so got damn easy for Russia!!!!

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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:37:53am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

Well, that settles it then. CONFIRMED! FACT! Suck on it, FAKE NEWS LIBTARDS!!!!

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Uh oh…must be bad. VB didn’t use the wingnutter font and color.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:38:29am

My brother-in-law just got my postcard in the mail (a faux wedding announcement of the union of the Sun and Moon) for the eclipse, with an eclipse stamp on it.

He says he is going to use it with the principal in his school as an excuse to get time off work to come visit.

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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:40:47am

re: #342 Joe Bacon 🌹

I still remember the Firedoggers, Berniebots and Jill Shills who loved tearing Obama to pieces alleging he traded everything away to Republicans and got nothing in return.

Now I wonder what Dolt 45 didn’t give away to His Master in their meeting?

Problem is Joe…all three groups you mention have an out. They didn’t like Clinton and they don’t like Trump. So they will like nothing about this and can continue to piss and moan because that is what they do.

By voting for Bernie, Johnson or Stein they will forever be above it all. The Safest of Spaces.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:42:06am

Forgot to post this yesterday (I couldn’t get on LGF at work because of DNS issues):

Chesterfield County school administrators have launched an investigation after a Bellwood Elementary School student claimed she was forced to run while fasting in observance of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

[…]

According to the ACLU letter, a physical education teacher insisted that the student run even after the student said she was fasting. When the teacher deemed her speed unsatisfactory, she said he then repeatedly forced the entire class to continue running as punishment.

“After being forced to run, the fasting student complained of feeling nauseous and weak,” the ACLU letter read.

richmond.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:44:12am

re: #350 ObserverArt

The counter of course is “Do you think Clinton would take away women’s rights, minority rights, suppress the vote, harass the LGBT, or sell of our National Park system to the highest bidder?”

Even if they think every claim made about Mrs. Clinton is true (a neoliberal warmongering imperialistic shill, like me), the two (Trump and Clinton) are not the same.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:44:58am
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JordanRules  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:45:04am

re: #347 JordanRules

Reminds me of Obama’s insistence that we look at why we are so susceptible to their weaponized info tactics.

The same folks who have to think about if it’s better to screw over Dems or get life saving healthcare will gladly submit to the great white Russian anti-hope.

It’s just extraordinary how relatively easy this is for Putin. The ROI is huge.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:45:29am

re: #352 Anymouse 🌹

The counter of course is “Do you think Clinton would take away women’s rights, minority rights, suppress the vote, harass the LGBT, or sell of our National Park system to the highest bidder?”

Even if they think every claim made about Mrs. Clinton is true (a neoliberal warmongering imperialistic shill, like me), the two (Trump and Clinton) are not the same.

They can’t answer that. More honestly, they won’t answer that.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:46:03am

re: #284 Lidane

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:47:09am

So Cenk apparently was blaming Pelosi for the Iraq War Resolution’s passage. Nevermind that most House Dems voted against the bill and Pelosi was given credit for whipping up the majority of the minority House Dems against it. Cenk meanwhile gets a healthy salary to spew up bullshit. Me? I’m a mere law lcerk. I’d suggest that Cenk and I switch places but I wouldn’t want to fuck over my boss by giving him Cenk who has no desire for accurate information.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:47:54am

re: #356 Ace-o-aces

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Oh I see but somehow Kathy Griffin’s stupid tweet was the crime of the century and Eric and Dumbo Jr’s whining about Julius Ceasar was just fine. Fuck off Lucas.

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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:48:07am
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JordanRules  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:49:04am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:49:17am

re: #359 darthstar

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That’s what happens when you show yourself to be a Putin ass kisser. Trump gets played like a fiddle again by the Russians. SAD

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:49:45am

re: #360 JordanRules

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YEah how about no.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:50:42am

re: #354 JordanRules

Reminds me of Obama’s insistence that we look at why we are so susceptible to their weaponized info tactics.

The same folks who have to think about if it’s better to screw over Dems or get life saving healthcare will gladly submit to the great white Russian anti-hope.

It’s just extraordinary how relatively easy this is for Putin. The ROI is huge.

This quotes comes to mind, again and again.

People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them. Eric Hoffer
Read more at: brainyquote.com

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:51:50am

re: #353 Stanley Sea

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Kragar  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:52:07am
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darthstar  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:52:15am
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Kragar  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:52:51am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:54:41am

re: #353 Stanley Sea

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Let’s see Benjyboy rationalize this.

Oh he will do what he always does, blames leftists…

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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:56:07am

re: #352 Anymouse 🌹

The counter of course is “Do you think Clinton would take away women’s rights, minority rights, suppress the vote, harass the LGBT, or sell of our National Park system to the highest bidder?”

Even if they think every claim made about Mrs. Clinton is true (a neoliberal warmongering imperialistic shill, like me), the two (Trump and Clinton) are not the same.

Never being wrong can never be countered. It is the perfect place to be in one’s own head.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:56:26am

re: #366 darthstar

Ultimately, conservatism is about gaining and maintaining power. If democracy will help conservatism do that, then democracy it is.

If democracy will not, a conservative government will throw democratic institutions under a train in a heartbeat - it has always been thus.

The idea that “I didn’t leave the GOP, they left me” is patent nonsense. Ever since the GOP became the conservative party, power has been the goal. Pulling in Russia-worshippers, power-hungry Evangelical churches, &c are all part-and-parcel of gaining and maintaining power. Nothing else has ever mattered, and nothing else ever will.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:56:33am

re: #368 Joe Bacon 🌹

Let’s see Benjyboy rationalize this.

Oh he will do what he always does, blames leftists…

He always does.

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ObserverArt  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:59:25am

Hey, someone dimmed the lights outside! Storms a coming. Back later.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:59:46am

re: #353 Stanley Sea

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Milo is just a sick fuck.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 7, 2017 • 11:01:17am

re: #368 Joe Bacon 🌹

Let’s see Benjyboy rationalize this.

Oh he will do what he always does, blames leftists…

Baby Whiplash is the #1 target of the alt-right. Yair Rosenberg (a “leftist) is a distant second. So it must be Rosenberg’s fault that he doesn’t piss off the alt-right as much as Li’l Whipsies.

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makeitstop  Jul 7, 2017 • 11:01:38am

re: #346 Sir John Barron

Did DJT give them back to Russia?

If it hasn’t happened yet, it will. They were talking about doing it a while back.

Also, this - an interesting idea. Did Germany get real-time updates on the Putin-Bitch meeting?

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BeachDem  Jul 7, 2017 • 11:17:57am

re: #286 lawhawk

Hoft’s dumbassery is coming from all quarters today.

You’ve got Lucian’s idiocy, and then Joe (his brother):

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There’s a reason he’s SMOTI.

But other than the facts that it wasn’t the father of the meme-maker and it wasn’t a CNN reporter and it was about something from 2013, SMOTI had it dead to rights. (I also love the “the internet said” line—now THAT’S reporting!)

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BeachDem  Jul 7, 2017 • 11:34:54am

re: #356 Ace-o-aces

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I’m offended that they refer to the little twit as a journalist.

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gocart mozart  Jul 7, 2017 • 2:45:50pm

re: #37 goddamnedfrank


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