Friday Night Jam: Bill Laurance, “U-Bahn”

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Written by Bill Laurance
Produced by Bill Laurance and Michael League
Co produced by Robert ‘Sput’ Searight

Bill Laurance - keyboards and vocoder
Michael League - basses and moog bass
Robert ‘Sput’ Searight - drums and percussion
Sirintip - vocals

Maria Im - violin
Henry Flory - violin
Curtis Stewart - violin
Christiana Liberis - violin
Irena Momchilova - viola
Kallie Ciechomski - viola
Maria Jeffers - cello
Sam Quiggins - cello
Matt McLaughlin - French horn
Achilles Liarmakopoulos - trombone

Arranged by Bill Laurance and Michael League
Orchestrated and conducted by Michael League

Recorded by Rudyard Lee Cullers, August 2014 at Dreamland Studios in West Hurley, NY
Vocals recorded recorded at Fashionpolice Studios, Stockholm, Sweden
Mixed by Nic Hard at Limebeat Studios in New York, NY
Mastered by Josh Kessler
Directed by Andy LaViolette
Filmed by Andy LaViolette and Brad Holt

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375 comments

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plansbandc  Jul 7, 2017 • 8:55:53pm

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Mattand  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:06:48pm

Listened to Bob Cesca for the time in months, which makes it the first time I’ve heard the circus pipe organ Imperial March he plays when mentioning Trump.

I laughed. Not nearly as hard as I did at the live MST3K show tonight, but it was close.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:08:32pm

Louder than words

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JordanRules  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:09:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:09:23pm

re: #3 Unshaken Defiance

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Ha pretty much.

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freetoken  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:15:02pm

I wonder if in future centuries “Prime Day” will be widely regarded as a religious festival?

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plansbandc  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:16:00pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:17:00pm

Tonight was dinner at Taylor’s Steak House here in Los Angeles and I ordered their London Broil with Creamed Spinach…

Medium Rare London Broil
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Dave In Austin  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:18:13pm

re: #8 Joe Bacon 🌹

Tonight was dinner at Taylor’s Steak House here in Los Angeles and I ordered their London Broil with Creamed Spinach…

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Damn…. Moo!

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freetoken  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:18:24pm

re: #8 Joe Bacon 🌹

Can’t remember when the last time I had a slab of beef, but that broil does look good.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:19:22pm

re: #7 plansbandc

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Poor Merkel.

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The Spite House  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:23:09pm

re: #8 Joe Bacon 🌹

Tonight was dinner at Taylor’s Steak House here in Los Angeles and I ordered their London Broil with Creamed Spinach…

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I thought it was supposed to be well done with ketchup.

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freetoken  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:23:54pm

Rarely have I been to a “steak house” during the past few decades, but the “london broil” method is a good way to get flavor out of a piece of beef, I think.

I remember having shabu-shabu once in Tokyo (on sort of a date but that is a long story), and liked it very much, as the very thinly sliced high quality beef was a delightful change from the steaks of my youth.

It still boggles my mind that Trump likes his cows burnt. What a way to destroy a piece of meat. Given his other inclinations (such as pushing way glasses) I wonder about his phobias. I presume he has a fear of red meat as the redness of the beef reminds him of blood, and we know from where that comes out.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:26:52pm

re: #7 plansbandc

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I look at that picture and I sure as all CENSORED can imagine Little Tweetler yelling, “Faster, Mommy, Faster!”

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sagehen  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:28:13pm

re: #8 Joe Bacon 🌹

Tonight was dinner at Taylor’s Steak House here in Los Angeles and I ordered their London Broil with Creamed Spinach…

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I really hate spinach, and if it were my steak I’d want it more well done, but… I wasn’t invited. So as long as you’re happy. (the rice thing looks good, too).

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sagehen  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:29:24pm

re: #9 Dave In Austin

Damn…. Moo!

The correct response is “I’ve seen cows hurt worse than that who recovered.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:29:29pm

re: #12 The Spite House

I thought it was supposed to be well done with ketchup.

Oh no. When it comes to steaks, the habit I picked up from Dad is to just dab a little HP sauce on the side. Dad picked that up from British friends when he worked at the Charleston Navy Yard during WW2. After Dad had his first taste of HP, he never wanted anything else on meat.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:29:59pm

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JordanRules  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:32:21pm

Whew. Lemme back away from some of this steak slander.

Nothing over medium or order chicken yo! ;)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:32:45pm

Got to 95 in my part of Los Angeles today. It’s still 80 outside right now. Supposed to be hotter tomorrow. I set my air conditioner at 82 degrees last night and the compressor has been constantly running since 9AM…

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teleskiguy  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:35:25pm

I’ve worked in steakhouses as a grill cook. Well done steak orders were microwaved. Really well done orders (it happens, customer asks for it to be fuckin’ cooked, probably like Fuckface Von Clownstick likes it) were deep fried. Oh, I’d put some grill marks on the meat to give it a look, but if they wanted well done, I was giving it to them, with full approval from management. And I’d also use the shittiest cut of meat for the order, the one at the end of the slab, with all the gristle ‘n shit (not only did I cook all the steaks, I cut them too).

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:37:39pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

And I’d also use the shittiest cut of meat for the order

Makes sense - why waste the good stuff on someone who is intent on ruining it?

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:38:42pm

I went and saw Neil Gaiman speak at the Windspear Opera House with two of my kids. It was good. He answered a lot of presubmitted questions, and read some of his writing. A scoop: a press release will come out in a few days announcing the main main actors for a six episode showing of Good Omens. It is, in approximately his words, being put together by BBC with Amazon’s money, and will be available on Prime when it is finished.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:39:24pm

re: #22 Jebediah, RBG

Makes sense - why waste the good stuff on someone who is intent on ruining it?

Sounds fine to me. Give Tweetler the worst cut, char it to well done and let him douse it with ketchup laced with high fructose corn syrup!

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:41:14pm

I don’t understand the point of eating a well done overcooked steak. Why not just chew your belt.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:42:06pm
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JordanRules  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:42:31pm

Idris Elba as Bond came up again today and a small corner of Twitter showed their ass. How can Bond be black, howwwwww!?!?!
Hilarity ensued as their justifications were ground to dust.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:42:38pm

re: #25 jaunte

I don’t understand the point of eating a well done overcooked steak. Why not just chew your belt.

My wife doesn’t like the sight of anything that makes her think of blood in her food.

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teleskiguy  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:43:39pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:43:59pm

re: #27 JordanRules

Idris Elba as Bond came up again today and a small corner of Twitter showed their ass. How can Bond be black, howwwwww!?!?!
Hilarity ensued as their justifications were ground to dust.

Idris Elba as Bond is sheer bad-assery. I would be in.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:44:24pm

re: #28 Belafon

I like a nice plate of sauteed brussels sprouts. Never a drop of blood.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:45:34pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:46:36pm

re: #27 JordanRules

Idris Elba as Bond came up again today and a small corner of Twitter showed their ass. How can Bond be black, howwwwww!?!?!
Hilarity ensued as their justifications were ground to dust.

I’m old enough to remember the controversial 70’s Jim Brown movie “Slaughter” where he went to bed with Stella Stevens. Folks boycotted outside the theaters where it played in Pittsburgh…

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JordanRules  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:49:13pm

re: #30 Dave In Austin

I too think it would be amazing! What a great next chapter for the franchise.

re: #33 Joe Bacon 🌹

No shit!? And those folks kids are still being dumbasses.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:49:21pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:50:21pm

re: #8 Joe Bacon

A valuable Los Angeles institution. Few old school steakhouses remain.

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JordanRules  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:51:30pm

Light rain drops in South Phoenix right now. Still feels like an oven from our 116 degree day. I’ve been miserable this week because of the heat.

Oh and we’ve got a few fireworks now too.

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JordanRules  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:52:32pm

re: #36 Unshaken Defiance

Okay, putting that spot on my list for my next visit to La La.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:53:00pm

re: #26 Dave In Austin

He’s always tugging at his coat. Fat man problems.

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teleskiguy  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:57:07pm

re: #36 Unshaken Defiance

A valuable Los Angeles institution. Few old school steakhouses remain.

All the steakhouses I worked at in Steamboat Springs are out of business.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:58:28pm

re: #34 JordanRules

I’m not kidding. Before that I remember how William Shatner was denounced for kissing Nichelle Nichols on Star Trek. Whole bunch of Biblebeaters lost their marbles over that!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:58:39pm

re: #28 Belafon

My wife doesn’t like the sight of anything that makes her think of blood in her food.

Bummer.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 7, 2017 • 9:59:34pm

re: #30 Dave In Austin

Idris Elba as Bond is sheer bad-assery. I would be in.

EVERYONE is in, cept the racists.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:00:27pm

It had to happen……

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:02:10pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

All the steakhouses I worked at in Steamboat Springs are out of business.

Out of style I suppose. Steak is still popular but not that style of restaurant. Smoking ban etc changed most places to open layout. Not so quiet and dark. Used to be the bar was a separate room.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:10:36pm

re: #45 Unshaken Defiance

Out of style I suppose. Steak is still popular but not that style of restaurant. Smoking ban etc changed most places to open layout. Not so quiet and dark. Used to be the bar was a separate room.

My chickarina soup turned out meh….so I’ll go to bed dreaming of an old timey steak house (with red banquettes)

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DanielKi  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:17:11pm

From downstairs:

re: #62 teleskiguy

Shit, man.

Yesterday in Hamburg
Also yesterday

What happened tonight was even worse.

This sort of thing has a bit of a tradition in Germany. Hard-left blocs turn up at demonstrations and riot. It’s what they do. One of our lesser known cultural pastimes.

It has little to do with Trump as some in the US left tend to assume. Actually these kind of people tend to have a “fuck everything” mindset not too far from Trumpkins themselves. For a lot of them it’s just their idea of having a good time, not unlike soccer hooligans.

The only thing that’s special at this G20 summit is that the whole thing is being acted out more extreme than expected or usual.

I can’t tell you how grateful I am that guns are not a thing around here.

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JordanRules  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:28:02pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:37:10pm

re: #48 JordanRules

Our country needs more of this. So much more.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:51:00pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 7, 2017 • 10:57:34pm
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Kragar  Jul 7, 2017 • 11:07:10pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 7, 2017 • 11:18:26pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:10:09am

Submitted for your consideration. Raul Labrador (R-ID Wingnut) is apparently going to leave Congress to run for Idaho Governor.

Wonkette weighs in on the prepper End Times prophet that is seeking his seat.

On Tuesday, a rightwing prepper and prophet of the End Times, Michael Snyder, announced he’s seeking Labrador’s seat, because what Congress really needs is a guy who writes for Charisma News, the Christianist website that’s so frequently over the top that people wonder if it might really be satire. The nice folks at RightWingWatch say Snyder runs his own prepper website called “The Economic Collapse,” but we’re not sure it counts, since it’s literally nothing more than a place to repost everything he writes at Charisma News, plus ads for gold, moving to Panama, and silver-based quack cures. Among Snyder’s recent insights are a condemnation of men dressing like women and t’other way ‘round, a call for a war on Globalism, and a profile of a guy who died, went to heaven, had a chat with Jesus, and came back (Jesus is “not overly large, but he’s massively built. You would think that he’s a weightlifter, a body builder”).

Oh, and also a thinky piece about a badly hurt bald eagle found on the streets of Washington DC, which Snyder believes is a sign from God that our nation is beat up, on its last legs, and should have been allowed to go extinct instead of being saved by the Endangered species Act faces grave threats to our freedom.

Read more at Wonkette.

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Nyet  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:38:02am

re: #72 BeachDem

And I have to say, just looking at his pretentious “contemplative” avi drawing, you know he’s an asshole.

YAS! YAAAAS!!

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Nyet  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:40:45am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:44:39am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹

Submitted for your consideration. Raul Labrador (R-ID Wingnut) is apparently going to leave Congress to run for Idaho Governor.

Wonkette weighs in on the prepper End Times prophet that is seeking his seat.

I will never understand the fundy-prepper fascination with gold. Imagine this scene a few weeks after what preppers call TSHTF (the shits the fan) or TEOTWAWKI (the end of the world as we know it).

Fundy prepper: “Hey, you there with the little gun! I’ll give you a gold Krugerrand for that rabbit you just shot.”
Rational prepper: “Er, no thanks but ya’ got any barbecue sauce?”

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:21:55am

One finds the strangest things on the internet, like this movie,

Get Me Roger Stone
Genres: Documentary
Actors: Roger Stone, Donald J. Trump, Paul Manafort
Directors: Dylan Bank, Daniel DiMauro
Country: United States
Duration: 92 min
Released: 2017

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Nyet  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:23:37am

re: #58 Single-handed sailor

An exhibit for a future trial./

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Dave In Austin  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:37:40am

#TraitorTrump seems to be trending

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Kragar  Jul 8, 2017 • 4:17:48am
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Kragar  Jul 8, 2017 • 4:26:42am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 8, 2017 • 4:58:48am

re: #62 Kragar

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Dr. Matt  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:08:50am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:11:54am

re: #52 Kragar

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Coward? Yeah it’s so cowardly to have an inclusive military. Good for Mattis though.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:14:09am

re: #61 Kragar

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JFC.

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:19:30am

re: #51 teleskiguy

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Until recently, we weren’t removing these statues. It could be argued that these people are seeing the writing on the wall, and dont like it.

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steve_davis  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:32:37am

re: #28 Belafon

My wife doesn’t like the sight of anything that makes her think of blood in her food.

I’m much the same way. I’m getting better about it (when I cook steak now, I will still eat it if it’s not quite as done as I ordinarily want it, because I’ve discovered it’s delicious!), but I also really only want my steak pink—not bloody.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:41:25am

I used to cook at a place frequented by Rep. Congressman Tim Johnson (IL). Johnson wanted his hamburger to just touch the grill for about a second on each side—literally. The first time I cooked it—and I had been warned—I did it for about 30 seconds per side. The waitress came back in tears after he verbally abused her for not conveying his order properly. What an asshole.

My favorite steak is the recooked leftovers of a medium-rare steak the next day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:47:23am
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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:49:01am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:49:09am

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Exactly. This simply isn’t normal. Man I’m not a Reagan fan at all but he didn’t have Maureen and Patty in important meetings representing him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:49:58am

re: #69 Barefoot Grin

I used to cook at a place frequented by Rep. Congressman Tim Johnson (IL). Johnson wanted his hamburger to just touch the grill for about a second on each side—literally. The first time I cooked it—and I had been warned—I did it for about 30 seconds per side. The waitress came back in tears after he verbally abused her for not conveying his order properly. What an asshole.

My favorite steak is the recooked leftovers of a medium-rare steak the next day.

Jesus.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:52:39am

Jesus wept:These Coloradans say Earth is flat. And gravity’s a hoax. Now, they’re being persecuted.

Is a Flat Earth Antisemitic?
A resounding “yes” to that and it is easy to verify from even a cursory examination of flat earth websites and FB pages.
I really think the ADL needs to monitor this and speak out about it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:55:11am

re: #74 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Jesus wept:These Coloradans say Earth is flat. And gravity’s a hoax. Now, they’re being persecuted.

Is a Flat Earth Antisemitic?A resounding “yes” to that and it is easy to verify from even a cursory examination of flat earth websites and FB pages.
I really think the ADL needs to monitor this and speak out about it.

SPLC too.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:56:43am

Putin is at war with the U.S. and our president* is complaisant and/or complicit.

“…hackers recently infiltrated an unidentified company that makes control systems for equipment used in the power industry, an attack that officials believe may be related.

The chief suspect is Russia, according to three people familiar with the continuing effort to eject the hackers from the computer networks. One of those networks belongs to an aging nuclear generating facility known as Wolf Creek — owned by Westar Energy Inc., Great Plains Energy Inc. and Kansas Electric Power Cooperative Inc. — on a lake shore near Burlington, Kansas.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:56:57am

when advertising/marketing people insist on reminding some of us that we are old…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:58:36am

re: #76 jaunte

Putin is at war with the U.S. and our president* is complaisant and/or complicit.

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He cares more about what Putin thinks of him than the national security of the US and his brain dead supporters just don’t care.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 5:59:37am

re: #78 HappyWarrior

I guess they’ll wake up when the power goes out.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:07:13am

re: #74 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Jesus wept:These Coloradans say Earth is flat. And gravity’s a hoax. Now, they’re being persecuted.

Is a Flat Earth Antisemitic?
A resounding “yes” to that and it is easy to verify from even a cursory examination of flat earth websites and FB pages.
I really think the ADL needs to monitor this and speak out about it.

Maybe the ADL doesn’t think anyone is stupid enough to believe this and has assumed that the flat-earthers are a parody group. Until yesterday, that is certainly what I believed. I still find it difficult to accept that anyone in this country, other than those with significant mental impairments, can seriously hold that view.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:09:05am

re: #69 Barefoot Grin

I used to cook at a place frequented by Rep. Congressman Tim Johnson (IL). Johnson wanted his hamburger to just touch the grill for about a second on each side—literally. The first time I cooked it—and I had been warned—I did it for about 30 seconds per side. The waitress came back in tears after he verbally abused her for not conveying his order properly. What an asshole.

My favorite steak is the recooked leftovers of a medium-rare steak the next day.

There’s a place not far from where I live that does a superb medium-rare hamburger. It’s called Penzion/Restaurace Florian. In a village called Proskovice.

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Nyet  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:09:36am

re: #74 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I have already mentioned here at LGF a confluence of deniers and FErs on twitter.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:10:27am

re: #57 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I will never understand the fundy-prepper fascination with gold. Imagine this scene a few weeks after what preppers call TSHTF (the shits the fan) or TEOTWAWKI (the end of the world as we know it).

Fundy prepper: “Hey, you there with the little gun! I’ll give you a gold Krugerrand for that rabbit you just shot.”
Rational prepper: “Er, no thanks but ya’ got any barbecue sauce?”

Gold nuts believe GOLD!! is the answer to all economic and political ills. Allow people to own GOLD!!, they say, and economic oppression and classism will be eliminated. The Fed will be obsolete. Governments will quiver at the strength of the people who own GOLD!! In case of total anarchy, the only useful form of money will be GOLD!! so buy as much as you can now … through our website.

There are some more logical reasons to own gold and silver as a hedge against inflation. But neither one is going to save your ass if some guy decides to take your food stores instead of your cache of gold sovereigns.

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makeitstop  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:11:25am

re: #36 Unshaken Defiance

A valuable Los Angeles institution. Few old school steakhouses remain.

I went to Morton’s when I was there last year. Yum.

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Nyet  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:12:12am

re: #57 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I will never understand the fundy-prepper fascination with gold.

Repo! The Genetic Opera - Gold

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:12:55am

re: #30 Dave In Austin

Idris Elba as Bond is sheer bad-assery. I would be in.

The spy thriller I’m looking forward to is the next Kingsman movie.

I watched the first because I was bored and couldn’t decide what to do. Settled on watching the first movie. Am I ever glad I did.

Kingsman 2: The Golden Circle Official Trailer #1 (2017) Taron Egerton Action Movie HD

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wheat-dogg  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:15:57am

re: #86 Romantic Heretic

The spy thriller I’m looking forward to is the next Kingsman movie.

I watched the first because I was bored and couldn’t decide what to do. Settled on watching the first movie. Am I ever glad I did.

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Never underestimate a man with a tightly furled umbrella.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:15:58am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Exactly. This simply isn’t normal. Man I’m not a Reagan fan at all but he didn’t have Maureen and Patty in important meetings representing him.

I have never been a Reagan fan and did not vote for him but he did have real governing experience before he was elected President; he was not contemptuous of our history (the little that he knew) nor a traitor.

Ivanka is more qualified than her father to represent this country and she’s not qualified at all.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:16:22am

re: #36 Unshaken Defiance

We’ve got a decent one here in Toronto.

Barberian’s

Was there once, decades ago. Between the meal, single malt scotch and Cuban cigars, it cost a week’s pay but it was worth every penny.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:38:37am

Just posted this downstairs, but StanleySea was right…Meeting with Putin exhausted him…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:39:03am

re: #89 Romantic Heretic

We’ve got a decent one here in Toronto.

Barberian’s

Was there once, decades ago. Between the meal, single malt scotch and Cuban cigars, it cost a week’s pay but it was worth every penny.

LOL sounds like the kind of place I’d expect to find Ron Swanson glaring at me.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:41:10am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹

So the guy that said he died and saw JC says he looks like a bodybuilder…Sounds just like the religious right nuts in my family.

According to them, JC looked like this…

It’s Son-O-God!
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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:46:24am
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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:48:08am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:49:03am

re: #94 jaunte

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Just marry her already.

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jeffreyw  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:49:53am

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Good morning!

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:50:31am

I’m sure the other attendees of the G-20 summit were happy to know Trump is proud of his daughter. Super important issue.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:51:30am

re: #97 jaunte

I’m sure the other attendees of the G-20 summit were happy to know Trump is proud of his daughter. Super important issue.

Just like John Podesta.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:51:47am
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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:54:37am

The Trumps are a very expensive national mistake.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:57:35am

re: #99 jaunte

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It’s like he’s flaunting that he’s Putin’s puppet.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:59:18am
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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 6:59:21am

re: #101 HappyWarrior

If there is any rational (greed) element in all of this, I suspect Trump and Tillerson are focused on their split of Siberian oil.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:00:48am

Not acting as national leaders, but as crime bosses.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:01:52am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:02:50am

re: #105 jaunte

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Can’t expect the idiots at FNC to know Chinese naming customs.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:03:26am

Morning Lizardim.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:04:23am

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Every day they start with a fresh, unwrinkled brain.

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:07:05am

re: #90 darthstar

Just posted this downstairs, but StanleySea was right…Meeting with Putin exhausted him…

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He still thinks the presidency is just a business.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:11:51am
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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:15:47am

How to create jobs…in Europe.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:17:31am

re: #111 darthstar

How to create jobs…in Europe.

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Also, how to shoot US economy in foot.

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austin_blue  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:20:25am

re: #112 wheat-dogg

Also, how to shoot US economy in foot.

They are mindlessly stupid, but at least they’re consistent.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:21:45am

re: #111 darthstar

How to create jobs…in Europe.

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Idiot. Abject idiot.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:22:05am
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austin_blue  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:26:30am

re: #115 darthstar

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That there is some serious shade, my man.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:30:08am
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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:31:33am

re: #116 austin_blue

That there is some serious shade, my man.

Days without an Ivanka press conference: 162

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wheat-dogg  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:33:00am

re: #118 darthstar

Days without an Ivanka press conference: 162

The voters elected a family to the presidency. The same people who complained about having another Clinton or another Bush in the office.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:33:46am

re: #119 wheat-dogg

The voters elected a family to the presidency. The same people who complained about having another Clinton or another Bush in the office.

Exactly.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:34:37am

re: #119 wheat-dogg

The voters elected a family to the presidency. The same people who complained about having another Clinton or another Bush in the office.

I don’t know if the voters who elected Trump really complained about having another Bush in office. Remember, IOKIYAR.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:35:18am
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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:38:33am

Thread:

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:44:05am

re: #117 darthstar

I bet the world leaders, especially the men, prefer dealing with Ivanka. After all, she’s polished, attractive, and sophisticated. She may be a grifter like her father, but she’s not demented and her understanding of issues eclipses his.

When Bill ran for president, he quipped that the voters would get “two for the price of one”. Of course, both Clintons were true policy wonks. Trump certainly never said that, but he is operating on that principle.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:45:20am
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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:46:46am

re: #124 Hecuba’s daughter

He also had Jared sit in on meetings with Mexico, China, Japan…Trump doesn’t talk in these meetings after the introduction. Jared takes over.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:50:19am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:51:00am

re: #127 jaunte

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Pathetic.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:53:47am

re: #127 jaunte

Cowards run.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:54:28am
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ObserverArt  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:55:33am

re: #26 Dave In Austin

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Morning! Seems like central Ohio gets a break from the damn humidity today. Yay!

Seeing the video of the Trump not turning around and having to be told shows how when he was up against the desk top he was sitting back in his chair. When he had to turn around he went to his squatting on the edge of his seat with his legs spread.

That is the position VB and others wonder about.

I think I’ve figured it out. He’s hiding his big gut. Well, trying to anyway. He must think that his gut gets to hang flatter when it is hanging out over the chair and also his tie can hang down straighter with its length and that gives him a ‘flatter’ looking front.

If he sits back against the chair, of course his coat and tie are going to be following the big belly and it will all be forward more clearly showing he’s fat.

It’s all about the fake optics with Donny. He probably practiced that in front of a mirror to see what looks best. Just like his hair and his ties, all are designed and messed with to give him a look opposite of the reality.

He is a very strange guy…so worried about his looks. He doesn’t understand, all that makes him look funky. If he could accept himself as he is and relax in his own skin he might be fat and balding, but at least he wouldn’t be so damn fake.

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scottslemmons  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:57:05am

re: #57 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I will never understand the fundy-prepper fascination with gold. Imagine this scene a few weeks after what preppers call TSHTF (the shits the fan) or TEOTWAWKI (the end of the world as we know it).

Fundy prepper: “Hey, you there with the little gun! I’ll give you a gold Krugerrand for that rabbit you just shot.”
Rational prepper: “Er, no thanks but ya’ got any barbecue sauce?”

More like:

Prepper: “I’ll give you a gold Krugerrand for that rabbit you just shot!”
Guy with Gun: “How ‘bout you give me the rest of your Krugerrands.”

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 7:57:31am

But we have a new coal mine that looks like a tumor.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:02:41am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:04:15am

re: #134 jaunte

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Hmmm. Sounds like someone we know.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:04:17am

re: #134 jaunte

Sure that’s not about Trump?

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:06:00am

re: #119 wheat-dogg

The voters elected a family to the presidency. The same people who complained about having another Clinton or another Bush in the office.

“If you vote for Clinton, you’ll get a dynasty.”

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:13:11am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:15:41am

re: #136 darthstar

Sure that’s not about Trump?

They just changed the title page.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:16:03am

re: #137 Belafon

“If you vote for Clinton, you’ll get a dynasty.”

We’re already reaching a point, far sooner than I imagined possible, where the question isn’t “what if she won?” but “can the next POTUS fix this?”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:17:13am

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Hmmm. Sounds like someone we know.

Except Kim isn’t suffering from dementia and would never have a family member take his place because he was too worn out to appear in public. They are both psychopaths in charge of countries with nuclear capabilities but that’s where the resemblance ends.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:19:11am

re: #141 Hecuba’s daughter

Except Kim isn’t suffering from dementia and would never have a family member take his place because he was too worn out to appear in public. They are both psychopaths in charge of countries with nuclear capabilities but that’s where the resemblance ends.

True.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:21:52am

VOTER FRAUD BREAKING NEWS
Iowa woman who tried to vote for Trump twice pleads guilty to election misconduct

A woman from Des Moines, Iowa, pleaded guilty to election misconduct for attempting to cast two separate ballots in the 2016 presidential election for then-Republican nominee Donald Trump.

According to the Associated Press, Terri Lynn Rote, 57, entered her plea for the felony charge on June 27. Court documents state that lawyers affiliated with the case are recommending Rote face up two years of probation with community service on the side.

Rote told police why she tried to vote more than once. She was convinced her first vote for Mr. Trump would be manipulated and changed to a vote for then-Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. According to her statement to the police, Rote believed Mr. Trump’s claims about widespread election rigging.

Thanks for tuning in to LOL News, never short of stories. Next up Wal Mart Shopping fashion

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:21:54am

re: #140 darthstar

We’re already reaching a point, far sooner than I imagined possible, where the question isn’t “what if she won?” but “can the next POTUS fix this?”

Not if the next POTUS is Pence. Isn’t he also tied to the Russians? And unlike Trump, he is a true theocrat.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:22:38am

re: #144 Hecuba’s daughter

Not if the next POTUS is Pence. Isn’t he also tied to the Russians? And unlike Trump, he is a true theocrat.

I think they mean the next sane president.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:31:26am
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scottslemmons  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:31:38am

re: #145 darthstar

I think they mean the next sane president.

With vote suppression and Russian election tampering? We’ll be waiting a hell of a long time… :/

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:32:53am

No one locked in orbit around the massive gravity of the Trumpularity would think to ask why.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:35:30am

That fawn we rescued yesterday? He’s going to make it and he’ll be released back into the wild today.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:38:27am

re: #145 darthstar

I think they mean the next sane president.

Sanity isn’t always what is needed. After all, like Putin, most psychopaths are sane. To quote George Bernard Shaw: “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man”

We had the choice of a sane, reasonable candidate in 2016 and she was rejected by a sufficient minority of voters. Courtesy of Republican mandated voter suppression and the Bernie Bro fanaticism, I’m not sure we will be getting a President who can govern effectively and in the interests of this nation any time soon.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:38:43am

re: #146 jaunte

In a nutshell, the whole family takes this as a lark. Out slumming.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:43:52am

re: #149 Ace Rothstein

Very kind of you. As a fellow animal fan, thank you.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:47:47am

re: #151 Unshaken Defiance

In a nutshell, the whole family takes this as a lark. Out slumming.

It is frightening that 63 million of our fellow citizens thought this was a good idea.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:48:32am

re: #149 Ace Rothstein

Hooray for good news!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:49:51am

I just had a terrifying thought: What if we get more than 8 years of a President Trump because one of his sons or daughters runs to replace him in 2024?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:50:15am

re: #134 jaunte

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Look at that first quote and notice the grammar in it. Like the CIA got that info from someone who talked to Kim Jong Un.

Someone like

Dennis Rodman

maybe?

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sagehen  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:50:34am

re: #150 Hecuba’s daughter

We had the choice of a sane, reasonable candidate in 2016 and she was rejected by a sufficient minority of voters. Courtesy of Republican mandated voter suppression and the Bernie Bro fanaticism, I’m not sure we will be getting a President who can govern effectively and in the interests of this nation any time soon.

And even if we do, the rest of the world now has proof that’s something they should treat as temporary.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:52:40am

re: #155 Eclectic Cyborg

I just had a terrifying thought: What if we get more than 8 years of a President Trump because one of his sons or daughters runs to replace him in 2024?

Modern day Republicans clearly have no problems with dynasties and have no loyalty to this country or its Constitution (other than the 2nd amendment). They will support anyone who wants to make America white again.

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ObserverArt  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:56:16am

re: #149 Ace Rothstein

That fawn we rescued yesterday? He’s going to make it and he’ll be released back into the wild today.

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Yay! I saw one a little older driving back from my brother’s house in Northern Ohio on Monday. Luckily it stayed at the road side and just looked up and watched me drive by.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 8:57:13am
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makeitstop  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:01:07am

Heh.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:03:39am

re: #149 Ace Rothstein

That fawn we rescued yesterday? He’s going to make it and he’ll be released back into the wild today.

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My one real foray into public activism was in the 1990’s. I was a very active member of the committee in my suburb to stop the authorities from reducing the deer population through culling. It led to the defeat of the mayor in our town; although the elections were formally non-partisan, the mayor (who supported culling) was a D and replaced by an R, who opposed culling, primarily because he opposed anything the mayor supported. OTOH, this was when the GOP was still sane and he was actually a good mayor.

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ObserverArt  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:04:47am

re: #161 jaunte

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For a man that is so worried about how he looks and comes off in his actions, he needs to look at the images and stories of him coming from this weeks G20 activities. There is nothing normal as far as a world leader in any of it.

So sad to see he represents the United States, Ugh.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:06:01am

re: #164 ObserverArt

For a man that is so worried about how he looks and comes off in his actions, he needs to look at the images and stories of him coming from this weeks G20 activities. There is nothing normal as far as a world leader in any of it.

So sad to see he represents the United States, Ugh.

He only sees the images and hears the stories from Trump-friendly “news” outlets.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:06:17am

re: #163 Hecuba’s daughter

My one real foray into public activism was in the 1990’s. I was a very active member of the committee in my suburb to stop the authorities from reducing the deer population through culling. It led to the defeat of the mayor in our town; although the elections were formally non-partisan, the mayor (who supported culling) was a D and replaced by an R, who opposed culling, primarily because he opposed anything the mayor supported. OTOH, this was when the GOP was still sane and he was actually a good mayor.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:07:09am

re: #105 jaunte

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Stupid News Fox.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:07:34am

re: #166 Timothy Watson

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ObserverArt  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:11:55am

re: #165 Hecuba’s daughter

He only sees the images and hears the stories from Trump-friendly “news” outlets.

I don’t buy it. He knows too much about all the stuff he calls fake news. He is too worried about his image to not check everything to see what is being said and shown about him.

Just like last week when he tweeted about Joe Scarborough and said something like “I haven’t watched, but I am watching today” Sure. Yeah, right Donny.

I bet he has someone compiling everything so he can review it all, or have it if he needs to use it to complain about.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:12:09am

re: #168 Hecuba’s daughter

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:13:51am

re: #164 ObserverArt

For a man that is so worried about how he looks and comes off in his actions, he needs to look at the images and stories of him coming from this weeks G20 activities. There is nothing normal as far as a world leader in any of it.

So sad to see he represents the United States, Ugh.

Doesn’t matter because FAUX, SincLIAR, Hate Radio and the rest of the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine are cranked up to 11 endlessly kissing Trump’s ass. Pulpit Pimp Preachers will also recite the latest Frank Luntz talking points during their Sunday brainwashing sessions as well…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:16:57am

re: #170 Timothy Watson

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ObserverArt  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:19:30am

re: #171 Joe Bacon 🌹

Doesn’t matter because FAUX, SincLIAR, Hate Radio and the rest of the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine are cranked up to 11 endlessly kissing Trump’s ass. Pulpit Pimp Preachers will also recite the latest Frank Luntz talking points during their Sunday brainwashing sessions as well…

What about the other 70% of America?

I don’t give a fuck about his excuse makers, as that is all they are. I care about the people of this country that are horrified by everything Trump. Actually I care about America. Those others only care about themselves.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:27:52am

re: #173 ObserverArt

If the other 70% doesn’t vote enough we will be stuck like this for awhile.

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Skip Intro  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:34:27am

re: #99 jaunte

Isn’t this Ivanka’s “holy day”?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:34:32am

Well which is it?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:35:18am

re: #175 Skip Intro

Isn’t this Ivanka’s “holy day”?

Every day is a holy day. I look at the news about Trump and I say Holy Shit

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Skip Intro  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:36:49am

re: #155 Eclectic Cyborg

I just had a terrifying thought: What if we get more than 8 years of a President Trump because one of his sons or daughters runs to replace him in 2024?

That’s the plan, a Trump dynasty.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:38:40am
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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:38:48am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:40:09am

re: #180 wrenchwench

Fake account I think. Funny but fake

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ObserverArt  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:40:59am

re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg

If the other 70% doesn’t vote enough we will be stuck like this for awhile.

Yep. I am painfully too aware of that.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:42:45am

re: #172 Hecuba’s daughter

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:45:53am

re: #181 Unshaken Defiance

Fake account I think. Funny but fake

It’s from 2013. Same account tweeted this last night:

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:48:07am

re: #86 Romantic Heretic

It’s certainly got the tongue in cheek spy thriller thing going. If the 2d is anything like the first, it’ll flirt with all the typical spy movie conventions and throw them out.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:48:39am

re: #184 wrenchwench

*facepalm* So strange it appears fake even by Trumpian standards. Well expect a Russian to win Miss Universe I guess.

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Skip Intro  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:53:21am

Did anyone watch House of Cards this year? I didn’t, because it’s so out of date in the age of Trump.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:55:59am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump was at the G20, and decided to give up his seat to Ivanka while he had a side meeting.

The amount of things wrong with that statement:

1) Ivanka is an unelected know nothing whose only reason for even being there is because she’s daddy’s favorite spawn. She has no skills or qualifications to sit in that role. She has no foreign policy experience and there are people who at least passed through the confirmation process who could (even if they too are also unqualified - Tillerson, I’m looking at you).

2) Ivanka and Kushner are Trump’s go-to on foreign policy despite Kushner having security clearance troubles - lying on his clearances is grounds for criminal charges (perjury). He should have his security revoked and instead they’re all rubbing shoulders with foreign leaders.

3) The only thing that makes sense here is that Ivanka’s trying to build her contact list and this is how they do it in oligarchies like mother Russia.

4) Trump’s performance throughout the G20 has been inuring benefit to Russia at every opportunity, and the rest of the G20 are recognizing it, which is why while Trump’s busy cozying up to Putin, the rest of the world is attempting to insulate itself from Trump’s dumbassery.

5) right wingers will continue thinking that all this is okay, and that there’s nothing wrong with Ivanka doing this. Bullshit. These same right wingers would be calling for impeachment had Obama allowed Michelle, let alone Sasha or Malia sit in for him; let alone Hillary allowing Chelsea to do the same. IOKIYAR strikes again.

6) Trump undermining US national security once more. Trump and his cronies don’t care about operational security or national security, and that they’re doing these kinds of things shows that they don’t take any of their oaths of office seriously. If they did, they wouldn’t be pursuing policies that favor Russia over the US. Everything Trump says and does is suspect.

7) Russia released the footage of Ivanka sitting in for daddy. Russia knows how to play everyone and all of Trump’s fuckups to Putin’s benefit. It’s what they do.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:57:26am

re: #188 lawhawk

They are not observing Shabbat anymore, are they?

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:58:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 9:59:16am
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Nyet  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:04:09am

re: #181 Unshaken Defiance

Fake account I think. Funny but fake

You mean fake accounts get blue checkmarks nowadays?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:05:14am

re: #190 lawhawk

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:05:39am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:05:47am

re: #194 Nyet

My mistake.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:08:17am

#babywhisperer

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wheat-dogg  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:11:21am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, America will be exceptional for sure now. Trump has recreated the USA as it existed before WWI, when Europeans were the big guys in town and the USA was a backwater internationally.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:11:31am

re: #198 Stanley Sea

That is very sweet.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:13:15am

re: #111 darthstar

How to create jobs…in Europe.

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Or Canada.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:15:25am

re: #198 Stanley Sea

#babywhisperer

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So cool.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:15:37am

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

when advertising/marketing people insist on reminding some of us that we are old…

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It would be huge. A retro microwave should take-up at least 3.5 feet of counterspace and the top should be just under the cabinet. It would be brown, also.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:16:13am

re: #83 wheat-dogg

Gold nuts believe GOLD!! is the answer to all economic and political ills. Allow people to own GOLD!!, they say, and economic oppression and classism will be eliminated. The Fed will be obsolete. Governments will quiver at the strength of the people who own GOLD!! In case of total anarchy, the only useful form of money will be GOLD!! so buy as much as you can now … through our website.

There are some more logical reasons to own gold and silver as a hedge against inflation. But neither one is going to save your ass if some guy decides to take your food stores instead of your cache of gold sovereigns.

Price of gold has gone down since the election.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:16:39am

re: #204 Birth Control Works

It would be huge. A retro microwave should take-up at least 3.5 feet of counterspace and the top should be just under the cabinet. It would be brown, also.

And probably emitting microwaves throughout the kitchen.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:18:09am

re: #204 Birth Control Works

Mahogany and brass, with incredibly complex gearing.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:18:21am

re: #97 jaunte

I’m sure the other attendees of the G-20 summit were happy to know Trump is proud of his daughter. Super important issue.

Can you imagine. How can you discuss sensitive issues meant for only head’s of state with a Leader’s daughter sitting in the room.

WTF?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:18:22am
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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:19:02am

re: #131 ObserverArt

Morning! Seems like central Ohio gets a break from the damn humidity today. Yay!

Seeing the video of the Trump not turning around and having to be told shows how when he was up against the desk top he was sitting back in his chair. When he had to turn around he went to his squatting on the edge of his seat with his legs spread.

That is the position VB and others wonder about.

I think I’ve figured it out. He’s hiding his big gut. Well, trying to anyway. He must think that his gut gets to hang flatter when it is hanging out over the chair and also his tie can hang down straighter with its length and that gives him a ‘flatter’ looking front.

If he sits back against the chair, of course his coat and tie are going to be following the big belly and it will all be forward more clearly showing he’s fat.

snip

In support of your hypothesis:

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:19:27am

For those who are interested here is the link to Kitco. Warning: there are a lot of pop-ups with this site.
kitco.com

Commodities prices

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wheat-dogg  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:19:47am

re: #205 Birth Control Works

Price of gold has gone down since the election.

Funny that.

Gold prices typically rise when investors feel insecure about other markets, so they start buying gold as a hedge. If prices are falling, does that suggest investors are confident about the markets in the Age of Trump? Because I sure am not. I’m waiting for some colossally stupid decision by Trump that will tank the markets, or lead to some kind of economic disaster for the States.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:24:09am

re: #204 Birth Control Works

It would be huge. A retro microwave should take-up at least 3.5 feet of counterspace and the top should be just under the cabinet. It would be brown, also.

Oh my the Radar-range. I looked up the older units. Too bad Twitter reply does not support adding an image.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:26:03am

re: #212 wheat-dogg

Funny that.

Gold prices typically rise when investors feel insecure about other markets, so they start buying gold as a hedge. If prices are falling, does that suggest investors are confident about the markets in the Age of Trump? Because I sure am not. I’m waiting for some colossally stupid decision by Trump that will tank the markets, or lead to some kind of economic disaster for the States.

Right Wing Types are so very secure in their believe that Trump will bring riches, that, yes, the Market is bullish.

There was a distinct change after election day —gold when down like $300 and the Market soared.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:26:45am

re: #207 jaunte

Mahogany and brass, with incredibly complex gearing.

That sounds like Steampunk, not Retro.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:27:56am

So, I finished the The Gift of Fear and ordered 3 used copies for people I know.

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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:28:34am

re: #187 Skip Intro

Did anyone watch House of Cards this year? I didn’t, because it’s so out of date in the age of Trump.

I did, and it made me ill to think the yam admins might be watching to gather ideas.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:28:36am

re: #212 wheat-dogg

Gold is tied to so many factors. India and China buying or not, Brexit, what mines get shut down, World Bank maneuvers. Since the recession more or less-

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:29:13am

re: #216 Birth Control Works

So, I finished the The Gift of Fear and ordered 3 used copies for people I know.

Do tell. Like it?//

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:29:54am

re: #216 Birth Control Works

re: #219 Unshaken Defiance

I have it on my list of books to read.

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ObserverArt  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:29:58am

re: #210 BeachDem

In support of your hypothesis:

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Hahahahaha. You got it.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:33:10am

re: #211 PhillyPretzel

For those who are interested here is the link to Kitco. Warning: there are a lot of pop-ups with this site.
kitco.com

Yeah a lot going on in the tracking/advert code since the management of the site changed.

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:34:30am
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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:35:04am

re: #219 Unshaken Defiance

Do tell. Like it?//

The author is excellent. Finally, a book written by a man, that perfectly explains what women go thru. It gave me hope.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:40:30am

re: #224 Birth Control Works

It helped me on my subway commute. Sharpened my people meter for who is cool, mentally disabled, just weird, or a threat at some level. Incidents are up in the heat and general tension so a wary eye pays.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:41:18am
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Belafon  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:41:53am

re: #218 Unshaken Defiance

Also, those who buy gold are like the people who buy guns, and they need a Democratic administration to drive demand.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:42:33am

re: #226 Stanley Sea

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Coming from the man who cried like a baby over Julius Ceasar and Kathy Griffin, go fuck yourself Donny Jr.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:43:22am

re: #149 Ace Rothstein

Yay!!!!

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makeitstop  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:44:33am

re: #227 Belafon

Also, those who buy gold are like the people who buy guns, and they need a Democratic administration to drive demand.

The NYC news stations have been running spots for a company where you can cash in your 401K in return for gold. Their slogan is ‘If you can’t see it, do you really own it?’

They even guarantee free shipping of your gold, right to your house!

What could possibly go wrong?
////

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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:46:04am

What were the odds that Melania would be seated next to Putin at that dinner?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:46:16am

Did Dumbo Jr comment on Lucas’s brilliancy yet?

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:48:26am

El Pasoans are tough.

It’s hot down there!

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A Cranky One  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:48:32am

re: #224 Birth Control Works

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makeitstop  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:48:49am

re: #231 BeachDem

What were the odds that Melania would be seated next to Putin at that dinner?

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Putin’s working the fuck out of both of them.

Or maybe Melania is just giving Uncle Vlad an in-depth report on what she’s been charged with finding out.
/ half

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:49:00am

re: #227 Belafon

Gold was 1900, many paid a lot more by getting bait and switched into *cough* rare gold coins. 3k and up. Gold is now under $1300. A bunch of guns got expensive, now cheap at stores and shows. Ammunition, primers, reloading machines all had the same track. Seeds! LOL, fools and their cash.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:50:09am

re: #221 ObserverArt

Hahahahaha. You got it.

That’s all it is. That’s how fat people sit to try to hide that. I did the same when I was fat.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:50:50am

re: #235 makeitstop

Putin’s working the fuck out of both of them.

Or maybe Melania is just giving Uncle Vlad an in-depth report on what she’s been charged with finding out.
/ half

American or Russian translator/aide I wonder…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:51:09am

re: #231 BeachDem

What were the odds that Melania would be seated next to Putin at that dinner?

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wearing her flapper dress.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:51:33am

re: #234 A Cranky One

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:52:05am

now you can conact me

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:53:51am

William, are you in?

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:55:24am

re: #242 Unshaken Defiance

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:56:34am

I can’t find that picture, very recent of a bunch of people wearing black tshirts on which is written “am I next?”

I can’t seem to find the right googlefu

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:57:04am
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William Lewis  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:57:48am

re: #242 Unshaken Defiance

William, are you in?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:57:54am

re: #244 Birth Control Works

I can’t find that picture, very recent of a bunch of people wearing black tshirts on which is written “am I next?”

I can’t seem to find the right googlefu

add “BLM” to your search keywords.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:58:59am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

add “BLM” to your search keywords.

nope

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 10:59:36am

re: #246 William Lewis

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The Spite House  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:00:10am

Putin joking about telling the WH what to do.

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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:00:11am

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

wearing her flapper dress.

It is hideous (figures it’s Michael Kors)

And WTF is he going on about in this picture?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:00:21am

re: #248 Birth Control Works

nope

weird.
I did a google search for am i next blm and lots of stuff came up.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:01:25am

re: #235 makeitstop

Putin’s working the fuck out of both of them.

Boy did I misread that on the first scan through.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:02:11am
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piratedan  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:03:37am

speaking of the co-option of our President by foreign agencies, any one else surprised that the GOP leadership has essentially been unavailable for comment during our President’s Foreign Policy Adventure in Wonderland?

Does this speak to the fact that they’ve got:

a) nothing to say
b) agree with what’s going on
c) are just as compromised as he is

At this point, I believe that the only way through for our nation (providing we ever see elections again) is the defeat and relegation of the GOP into a non-entity politically. At the ballot box and through the courts. If some trigger happy but frustrated Dem starts shooting GOP politicians I’m afraid it’ll devolve into a virtual civil war.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:03:39am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:03:57am

found it!

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:05:52am

re: #251 BeachDem

It is hideous (figures it’s Michael Kors)

And WTF is he going on about in this picture?

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IMHO, not appropriate —she should have been wearing a suit. Not a dress style that has traditionally been a dance dress.

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A Cranky One  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:06:41am

re: #240 Birth Control Works

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William Lewis  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:06:58am

re: #249 Unshaken Defiance

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:07:04am

re: #258 Birth Control Works

I agree a business suit would have been better.

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William Lewis  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:09:59am

A moment of your time, A Cranky One.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:11:16am
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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:11:50am

re: #261 PhillyPretzel

I agree a business suit would have been better.

Those heels! To me, they say, ‘don’t take me seriously as an independently ambulatory human.’

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:11:58am

re: #259 A Cranky One

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A Cranky One  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:13:00am

re: #260 William Lewis

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:13:08am
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:13:23am

re: #264 wrenchwench

I cannot wear heels like that any more. Bad feet. :(

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:14:07am

re: #263 Stanley Sea

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Love the ‘Images’ button. Without it I’d be lost.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:14:09am

re: #268 PhillyPretzel

I cannot wear heels like that any more. Bad feet. :(

bad ankles and no balance.

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:16:11am

re: #268 PhillyPretzel

I cannot wear heels like that any more. Bad feet. :(

If you didn’t have them already, those heels would give you bad feet, back, and whatever part you landed on.

I crashed my bike again yesterday, so it’s not always the shoes. But I wear a helmet.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:17:36am
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ObserverArt  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:19:27am

re: #271 wrenchwench

If you didn’t have them already, those heels would give you bad feet, back, and whatever part you landed on.

I crashed my bike again yesterday, so it’s not always the shoes. But I wear a helmet.

Wrench, you are gonna have to stop trying to do those BMX backflips off of a 30 foot ramp. You know what the doctors told you! And you are not 16 any more.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:20:44am

re: #271 wrenchwench

If you didn’t have them already, those heels would give you bad feet, back, and whatever part you landed on.

I crashed my bike again yesterday, so it’s not always the shoes. But I wear a helmet.

So much for, “it’s just like riding a bike.”

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ObserverArt  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:21:22am

re: #272 darthstar

Sean McCabe @darthstar99
It’s a miserably foggy day here on the coast, so while it might be over 100 degrees inland, don’t come down here.
1:44 PM - 8 Jul 2017 * San Francisco, CA
Retweets likes

Hey, you human with the camera, stop screwing around and throw the damn Frisbee.

Sheesh, what’s a dog gotta do?

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:22:50am

re: #275 ObserverArt

Hey, you human with the camera, stop screwing around and throw the damn Frisbee.

Sheesh, what’s a dog gotta do?

The next moment (and it’s a ball day):

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wheat-dogg  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:23:43am

re: #214 Birth Control Works

Right Wing Types are so very secure in their believe that Trump will bring riches, that, yes, the Market is bullish.

There was a distinct change after election day —gold when down like $300 and the Market soared.

As usual, they are focused on short-term goals — like deregulation and “travel bans” — and not on long-term consequences of those goals.

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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:23:49am

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ian bremmer ✔ @ianbremmer
It’s as if @nikkihaley worked for a different administration.

It’s more like—it’s as if Nikki Haley has any clue what the fuck she’s talking about.

She also made this word salad comment about Ivanka:

“I think she sees herself as part of a public servant family, and she doesn’t want to waste this time by not putting forward some effort to try and help the world.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:24:01am

re: #271 wrenchwench

If you didn’t have them already, those heels would give you bad feet, back, and whatever part you landed on.

I crashed my bike again yesterday, so it’s not always the shoes. But I wear a helmet.

You and bike okay?
I’m sure those heels would give me a bloody nose first. Falling right on my face.

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:24:04am

re: #273 ObserverArt

Wrench, you are gonna have to stop trying to do those BMX backflips off of a 30 foot ramp. You know what the doctors told you! And you are not 16 any more.

I wore gloves for the first time in a week. Saved my palm from the uphill gravel driveway I used to ride all the way. And I think my wallet saved some gluteus. Nice bruise on my hip.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:25:06am

re: #278 BeachDem

It’s more like—it’s as if Nikki Haley has any clue what the fuck she’s talking about.

She also made this word salad comment about Ivanka:

“I think she sees herself as part of a public servant family, and she doesn’t want to waste this time by not putting forward some effort to try and help the world.”

I guess Ivanka deserves a participation award for putting forward all that ‘effort’.

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:25:37am

re: #279 Unshaken Defiance

You and bike okay?
I’m sure those heels would give me a bloody nose first. Falling right on my face.

Scratched a bar-end plug. Non-drive side fall, so I saved the derailleur.

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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:25:44am

re: #264 wrenchwench

Those heels! To me, they say, ‘don’t take me seriously as an independently ambulatory human.’

But, but they’re PYTHON.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:27:00am

A friend of mine complaining about litter in the Bay Area.

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:27:17am

re: #283 BeachDem

But, but they’re PYTHON.

THEY BITE????

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Skip Intro  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:27:33am

re: #278 BeachDem

A “public service family” for all of 6 months. That’s some commitment.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:29:00am

Okay, this made me laugh.

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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:29:40am

re: #285 wrenchwench

THEY BITE????

They might!

Christian Louboutin’s Pigalle python pumps in white, which feature a natural python skin upper on a 4-inch stiletto heel

(At $1,345, they probably do. But they’re sold out, so we’ll all have to suffer in silence.)

Wonder when Ivanka will be ripping them off?

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:32:17am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:32:18am

re: #288 BeachDem

They might!

Christian Louboutin’s Pigalle python pumps in white, which feature a natural python skin upper on a 4-inch stiletto heel

(At $1,345, they probably do. But they’re sold out, so we’ll all have to suffer in silence.)

Wonder when Ivanka will be ripping them off?

Man of the anxious white, working class, y’all.

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:32:27am

re: #288 BeachDem

They might!

Christian Louboutin’s Pigalle python pumps in white, which feature a natural python skin upper on a 4-inch stiletto heel

(At $1,345, they probably do. But they’re sold out, so we’ll all have to suffer in silence.)

Wonder when Ivanka will be ripping them off?

I have some shoes coming next Wednesday:

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:33:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:34:19am

re: #267 darthstar

another totally inappropriate outfit.

Huge bows on the elbows?
Oh please…

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:34:57am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:35:02am

re: #267 darthstar

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“When is daddy getting out of his Board meeting?!?!?!”

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:35:36am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

another totally inappropriate outfit.

Huge bows on the elbows?
Oh please…

I know

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:37:05am
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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:38:09am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

another totally inappropriate outfit.

Huge bows on the elbows?
Oh please…

She’s got big elbows.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:39:36am

re: #267 darthstar

[Embedded content]

But she has her house of cards

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:40:26am

re: #251 BeachDem

It is hideous (figures it’s Michael Kors)

And WTF is he going on about in this picture?

[Embedded content]

He has really small feet too.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:40:37am

LOL these people

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:41:38am

re: #301 Stanley Sea

LOL these people

[Embedded content]

Apparently he needs to go back and get re-indoctrinated. We learned yesterday (or early this morning, I don’t remember) that America First means telling foreign investors to go fuck themselves, they aren’t starting any businesses in our country.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:41:58am

re: #301 Stanley Sea

LOL these people

[Embedded content]

He misspelled “collusions.”

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:43:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:43:59am

re: #301 Stanley Sea

LOL these people

[Embedded content]

he’s got two maybe coalitions: Russia and Saudi.
Pretty sure Jared ruined the one with Israel.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:44:41am

We’ve had it wrong. It’s not America first, it’s America ONLY…and white America at that.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:47:48am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:47:53am

re: #304 jaunte

They don’t get the difference. This isn’t like an XO covering for the Captain. This is about an unelected, unprepared representative taking the place of the elected leader of a country in very important discussions with other leaders. That should never, ever happen. If anything, the SoS should have stepped in.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:48:15am

re: #301 Stanley Sea

LOL these people

[Embedded content]

I think we all know which coalition they mean…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:48:58am

re: #307 Stanley Sea

I’m sure Trump has friends in The Ukraine who can fix it for him…

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:51:49am

re: #307 Stanley Sea

Make it stop. Please.

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scottslemmons  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:52:08am

Just realized I’m genuinely surprised there aren’t already a dozen dystopian novels on the shelves about an America ruled by the Russians. I’d start working on them, but it takes me three days to write a five-paragraph book review… :/

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:52:45am

“Why was it a Russian official, and not an American reporter, who broke this news? According to a White House press pool report, it’s because they were escorted out before it happened.”
….
It is, indeed, outrageous that a completely unqualified neophyte sat at the same table as G-20 leaders and then was replaced by his daughter. Learning about it this way is just an added insult, albeit surely not the final one.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:52:55am

re: #307 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

There should be a specific cabinet position and department that handles details like that and holds briefings so POTUS can avoid that sort of faux pas…

oh, wait…

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Birth Control Works  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:54:55am

Mercedes Lackey

I enjoyed this Podcast —now print book trilogy.

Nazi’s in space meme.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:55:56am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:58:45am

re: #315 Birth Control Works

Mercedes Lackey

I enjoyed this Podcast —now print book trilogy.

Nazi’s in space meme.

I’m looking forward to this. Nazis at the center of the earth and riding dinosaurs and shit.

Iron Sky 2: The Coming Race | official trailer (2018)

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 11:59:30am

re: #313 jaunte

Holy shit…when will the US news pool stop putting up with this shit?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:01:10pm

re: #318 darthstar

Holy shit…when will the US news pool stop putting up with this shit?

[Embedded content]

The thing that gets me is, they kiss up to his ass solely to preserve their access to the White House. But then he denies them access anyway… The first thing I would be thinking is, “Exactly why the FUCK am I putting up with this shit?”

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Stanley Sea  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:01:15pm
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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:01:44pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:03:15pm

re: #320 Stanley Sea

[Headline in Roswell, New Mexico, 70 years ago today:]

They’re still celebrating that. It’s all they have.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:03:23pm

Battle of the bands.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:06:56pm

re: #321 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Fucker.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:07:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:08:19pm

re: #304 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Delete your account, you sleazy motherfucker.

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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:08:20pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

another totally inappropriate outfit.

Huge bows on the elbows?
Oh please…

Well, she is a princess, after all…

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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:09:44pm

re: #301 Stanley Sea

LOL these people

[Embedded content]

They all talk as if their words are coming out of a salad shooter.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:11:07pm
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scottslemmons  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:11:18pm

re: #322 wrenchwench

They’re still celebrating that. It’s all they have.

They didn’t really start that up ‘til after the oil crash in the 80s. I lived in the southeast corner of the state, not that far from Roswell, when I was a kid. We got our TV news from the Roswell TV stations. No one ever talked about that except as a “Tee hee, look at this crazy thing from way back when.”

Then the oil market went belly-up, and the Roswell economic board said, well, oil’s gone bust, could we do tourism? What on earth could we do tourism on from this dusty section of the state? And all at once, there got to be a lot more talk about the Strange Mystery of the UFO Crash. Who Covered It Up? What Alien Mysteries Did They Find? Here’s An Old Paranoid Dude To Wax Rhapsodic About Dead Aliens!

We got “The X-Files” out of it, eventually. We got the great “Delta Green” RPG, too. I guess that’s alright.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:13:21pm

re: #330 scottslemmons

They didn’t really start that up ‘til after the oil crash in the 80s. I lived in the southeast corner of the state, not that far from Roswell, when I was a kid. We got our TV news from the Roswell TV stations. No one ever talked about that except as a “Tee hee, look at this crazy thing from way back when.”

Then the oil market went belly-up, and the Roswell economic board said, well, oil’s gone bust, could we do tourism? What on earth could we do tourism on from this dusty section of the state? And all at once, there got to be a lot more talk about the Strange Mystery of the UFO Crash. Who Covered It Up? What Alien Mysteries Did They Find? Here’s An Old Paranoid Dude To Wax Rhapsodic About Dead Aliens!

We got “The X-Files” out of it, eventually. We got the great “Delta Green” RPG, too. I guess that’s alright.

Roswell N.M. is known of here in the Czech Republic - it’s recognized by Czechs as part and parcel of UFO mythos and lore. I’d say it’s certainly a part of global pop culture, whether or not a person believes in UFO’s or not.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:14:04pm

re: #319 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The thing that gets me is, they kiss up to his ass solely to preserve their access to the White House. But then he denies them access anyway… The first thing I would be thinking is, “Exactly why the FUCK am I putting up with this shit?”

They have no self-worth and no backbones.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:15:21pm

Why are wingnuts so entertained by the never ending stream of Trump vs CNN memes?

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scottslemmons  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:16:07pm

re: #331 Dr Lizardo

Roswell N.M. is known of here in the Czech Republic - it’s recognized by Czechs as part and parcel of UFO mythos and lore. I’d say it’s certainly a part of global pop culture, whether or not a person believes in UFO’s or not.

That’s the power of marketing. :)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:17:05pm

re: #333 darthstar

Why are wingnuts so entertained by the never ending stream of Trump vs CNN memes?

[Embedded content]

My biggest wingnut FB friend has been posting Trump-adoration memes ever since the 4th, where he posted one of President Trump overlaid over a background of an American flag, a bald eagle, and an M1 Abrams tank. I was like, dude, you’re a fucking dumbass. There’s just no saving that one, he’s a complete God-guns-abortion wingnut.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:17:36pm
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darthstar  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:17:43pm
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Brian J.  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:18:31pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

I’m in favor of bringing in the 101st Airborne to teach these rebels a few lessons. You know the CSA never formally surrendered, just dispersed into the hills, right?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:18:53pm

re: #337 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Yep.

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Citizen K  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:19:08pm

re: #335 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My biggest wingnut FB friend has been posting Trump-adoration memes ever since the 4th, where he posted one of President Trump overlaid over a background of an American flag, a bald eagle, and an M1 Abrams tank. I was like, dude, you’re a fucking dumbass. There’s just no saving that one, he’s a complete God-guns-abortion wingnut.

The kind that shares Ben Garrison cartoons, the kind that do their best to pretend Trump’s physique is as the godhood they’ve literally started attributing to him?

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:20:05pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:21:21pm

re: #340 Citizen K

The kind that shares Ben Garrison cartoons, the kind that do their best to pretend Trump’s physique is as the godhood they’ve literally started attributing to him?

He won’t ever go that far because he is a Christian and they don’t generally hold with making men into gods, but the guy literally can’t say enough good words about Trump and how he is the best President ever. He is actively rooting for America to go to war (which is interesting, because he’s currently enlisted and would be GOING OVER THERE if we did).

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:21:58pm

Administration fascists high-five selves over Trump’s “successful” G-20 appearance.

“…from the perspective of Mr. Trump’s team, the trip to Poland and Germany turned out to be a surprising early high point in his presidency, providing a brief but welcome respite from the forever wars in Washington. It left the president, who had been less than enthusiastic about coming, buoyant and feeling that there might still be a market for his hard-edge brand of conservative nationalism in supposedly inhospitable Europe after all.

“This week’s trip gave the country a very clear sense of the president’s foreign policy philosophy and reiterated the long-term objective of restoring America’s greatness on the world stage,” said Jason Miller, a former Trump campaign aide who still advises the president and his staff informally.”
mobile.nytimes.com

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Stanley Sea  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:22:08pm
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I cannot.  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:27:00pm

re: #315 Birth Control Works

Mercedes Lackey

I enjoyed this Podcast —now print book trilogy.

Nazi’s in space meme.

It also has some roots in an old MMORPG, which Ms. Lackey used to participate in. City of Heroes, wherein the players took the part of superheroes…or…villains. Sadly, NCSoft closed CoH a few years ago.

*sigh* now I’ve got the sentimental feels.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:28:25pm

re: #338 Brian J.

I’m in favor of bringing in the 101st Airborne to teach these rebels a few lessons. You know the CSA never formally surrendered, just dispersed into the hills, right?

wrong, but you’re getting a woody just thinking about it…

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:33:29pm
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Belafon  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:35:37pm

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

wrong, but you’re getting a woody just thinking about it…

“Robert E. Lee wasn’t a true confederate. He was nice to his slaves. And there was no surrender flag. Fact.”

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scottslemmons  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:38:17pm

re: #345 I cannot.

It also has some roots in an old MMORPG, which Ms. Lackey used to participate in. City of Heroes, wherein the players took the part of superheroes…or…villains. Sadly, NCSoft closed CoH a few years ago.

*sigh* now I’ve got the sentimental feels.

Every once in a while, I’ll think of the music that played when you entered Steel Canyon, or the way Founders Falls looked at sunset, or ragdolling that last Arachnos goon on a mission, and I ain’t good for much but looking at screenshots of all my old characters for an hour or two… :/

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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:41:09pm

re: #343 jaunte

Administration fascists high-five selves over Trump’s “successful” G-20 appearance.

The yam’s perspective in a nutshell, from the same article

…his staff found unexpected comfort as they watched on TV as protesters rampaged through the streets of Hamburg. The anger outside, they noted with relief, was mostly directed at globalism, the Group of 20 and European leaders, not at Mr. Trump…

Cars burned, diplomats fumed. Yet to Mr. Trump and his battered band of advisers, the discord inside and around the complex housing the summit meeting was someone else’s problem.

Ugh

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:41:37pm
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retired cynic  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:42:17pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

SUCH an important essay. Tillerson is obviously totally at ease with us being sold to Russia.

353
Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jul 8, 2017 • 12:55:01pm

re: #292 Birth Control Works

I think they should change “sex” to “gender.”

354
thecommodore  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:03:51pm

Larry Elder shows why conservative humor is so cutting edge.

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BeachDem  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:04:56pm

re: #351 jaunte

[Embedded content]

#7 is truly a distressing one and received little coverage.

This DOJ Letter May Be More Alarming Than Trump
Commission’s Request For Voter Data

huffingtonpost.com

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Brian J.  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:05:14pm

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

wrong, but you’re getting a woody just thinking about it…

Robert E. Lee surrendered the last intact CSA army, not the government. The government never surrendered. It simply dispersed.

And I don’t know why you feel the need for personal insult in discussing our nation’s greatest failure and its best chance to bind up the wounds caused by slavery.

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:09:04pm

re: #356 Brian J.

Robert E. Lee surrendered the last intact CSA army, not the government. The government never surrendered. It simply dispersed.

And I don’t know why you feel the need for personal insult in discussing our nation’s greatest failure and its best chance to bind up the wounds caused by slavery.

Wrong again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:16:13pm

re: #348 Belafon

“Robert E. Lee wasn’t a true confederate. He was nice to his slaves. And there was no surrender flag. Fact.”

“Robert E. Lee was Good PeopleTM, not that bad person everybody wants to tell you…”

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:22:04pm
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Brian J.  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:22:39pm

re: #357 wrenchwench

Wrong again.

If we couldn’t have summoned the will to punish the Confederates for their crimes while Atlanta and Savannah were still smoking, what chance do reparations stand 150 years down the line? All the people directly involved are dead.

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Brian J.  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:23:05pm

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Robert E. Lee was Good PeopleTM, not that bad person everybody wants to tell you…”

You joke, but that’s the line that the schools have been pumping out since 1865.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:25:43pm

shit stirrer shows up to stir shit and complains he’s being insulted.

My day is finally getting better.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:26:28pm

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

shit stirrer shows up to stir shit and complains he’s being insulted.

My day is finally getting better.

Nevermind. Wrong one.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:27:25pm

re: #323 darthstar

Almost as bad as these people.

Warning: May cause aneurysms and projectile vomiting.

Portsmouth Sinfonia : “Also sprach Zarathustra”

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BigPapa  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:30:27pm

I still listen to AM radio. Which means conservative radio. Elder is fast talking and smooth. Prager is a wonky bookish teacher type. Gallagher is a jerky dudebro. Levin is an angry ‘get off my lawn’ bitch.

None of them say anything compelling or though provoking, it’s just a repeating and reinforcement of tropes. The only thing that changes is the current events: they’re take on them is as predictable as their time slots.

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:32:54pm

re: #360 Brian J.

If we couldn’t have summoned the will to punish the Confederates for their crimes while Atlanta and Savannah were still smoking, what chance do reparations stand 150 years down the line? All the people directly involved are dead.

Reparations should be given a chance. Why not? Why are you so negative? Did you read the linked article?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:35:41pm

re: #366 wrenchwench

Reparations should be given a chance. Why not? Why are you so negative? Did you read the linked article?

he just wants to re-litigate the Civil War using the 101st for shock and awe

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:36:09pm

Baptized in Blood: The Religion of the Lost Cause, 1865-1920

“”Civil religion” has been defined as the religious dimension of a people that enables them to understand a historical experience in transcendent terms. In this light, Wilson explores the role of religion in postbellum southern culture and argues that the profound dislocations of Confederate defeat caused southerners to think in religious terms about the meaning of their unique and tragic experience. The defeat in a war deemed by some as religious in nature threw into question the South’s relationship to God; it was interpreted in part as a God-given trial, whereby suffering and pain would lead Southerners to greater virtue and strength and even prepare them for future crusades.”
amazon.com

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:37:14pm

It’s hard to reason with religious fanatics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:51:24pm

re: #369 jaunte

It’s hard to reason with religious fanatics.

Religious fanatics on either side

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:54:06pm
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William Lewis  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:55:57pm

Nice pleasant day here. 78 & sunny but the humidity is at a human tolerable level. Took a little drive, just because I can…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2017 • 1:57:18pm

re: #371 jaunte

[Embedded content]

and they are all armed.

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Broad With Sass  Jul 8, 2017 • 2:23:38pm

re: #315 Birth Control Works

Mercedes Lackey

I enjoyed this Podcast —now print book trilogy.

Nazi’s in space meme.

I just found this podcast, its in my que SWEET

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BlueGrl21  Jul 8, 2017 • 2:25:39pm

I have gotten rid of the vast bulk of Trump supporters in my life, friends and family. Don’t have that kind of patience.

But one friend has been my lifeline for 25 years. He hated Hillary so much he turned Trump. Now he’s stuck and won’t admit Trump is a disaster. He still thinks Hillary would be worse.

You can’t argue with an imaginary scenario.

So, this friendship has become a once a month text to see if the other is still alive. We talk about nothing of any consequence.

25 years. I hope that when our national nightmare has passed, some of these broken relationships will find a way to mend themselves. There are those who can’t admit they were wrong today but are capable of it over time.

And some are never going to be worth knowing again.


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