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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 9, 2017 • 9:10:19pm

Now that’s some soothing Sunday night acoustic magic.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2017 • 9:23:51pm

OT:

Facebook search algorithms are freakishly accurate sometimes. I went looking for an old neighbor of mine with a relatively common name (first and last) but despite this - BOOM - the very first match was the woman I was looking for.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 9, 2017 • 9:27:23pm

I was kind of chuckling about the prospect of the Russians competing with the Chinese for the rights to exploit Donald Trump. But if you put yourself in their shoes, what do you have? 1. North Korea. 2. A Pacific rim that can no longer count on America.
The last thing they’re going to do is reign in North Korea. Maybe they’ll try to revive a SEATO-type coalition that doesn’t include the United States.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 9, 2017 • 9:32:23pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 9, 2017 • 9:38:39pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 9, 2017 • 9:41:19pm
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sagehen  Jul 9, 2017 • 9:49:24pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

Seriously name one stranger thing that has turned out to be legitimate.

The platypus.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:06:26pm
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Myron Falwell  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:12:22pm

re: #7 sagehen

The platypus.

Ryan Seacrest.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:12:45pm

Reposted from downstairs:

re: #264 teleskiguy

The Grand Army of the Republic highway. Yes, indeed!

There is a Route 6 historical society in Ohio that has been putting up the hexagonal G.A.R. highway plates at many town and city borders.

A similar society in California has been working to establish “Historical 6” markers on the legacy route CalTrans decommissioned in 1964.

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Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:16:44pm

So in 24 hours, we’ve gone from “It’s a harmless meeting that was all about adoption and totally a set-up by the DNC” to “Yeah, I only took the meeting with a woman I knew nothing about because she promised me damaging info on Hillary, but we still only talked about an adoption program, honest!”

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retired cynic  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:20:11pm

As long as we don’t forget Tr*mpcare, and whatever DT promised his buddy Vlad in Hamburg, and whatever RW stuff he got up to with the ruling administration in Poland.

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teleskiguy  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:20:32pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

YOU’RE GODDAMN RIGHT I ORDERED THE CODE RED!

Giphy

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Apocalypse  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:21:10pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

It may just be me (it rarely is, but sometimes) but the fact that someone had a meeting on the basis of damaging info on political opposition the had isn’t good.

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Apocalypse  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:24:09pm

re: #7 sagehen

Nah, given the circumstances. We all know what happens when we get bored.

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teleskiguy  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:25:47pm

Giphy

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Kafitrar  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:26:17pm

Talk about bringing the lunatics out of the shadows. My family and I were at a summer festival near my brother’s home on Sunday. The John Birch Society had an information tent in the vendor area… The John Birch Society! I have never seen them in public before.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:32:11pm

For some future Gaze moment.

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Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:36:28pm

re: #14 Apocalypse

It may just be me (it rarely is, but sometimes) but the fact that someone had a meeting on the basis of damaging info on political opposition the had isn’t good.

The fact that daddy’s lawyers decided a day after throwing up flak for Junior to cut him loose says everything.

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teleskiguy  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:44:24pm
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sagehen  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:48:57pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:50:54pm

What would we do without young white college freshman wankers.

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retired cynic  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:51:05pm

re: #21 sagehen

Tr*mp people would just say, yeah, and they lost. Of course, I think J*b got up to some hanky panky with the vote in Florida.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:52:52pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

What would we do without young white college freshman wankers.

I was a white college freshman wanker, but my views were heard only by the people I spoke to directly, I did not have the option of tweeting them to let the whole world what I wanker I was.

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Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:52:59pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

What would we do without young white college freshman wankers.

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Except Bernie never represented “all.” He pretty much made clear after he got his ass kicked during Super Tuesday that he only represented whiter, more “progressive” voters. The largely black communities in the South who supported Hillary? He blew them off as “too conservative” and basically wrote off the entire South in favor of winning the North.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:54:54pm

Bernie represented an outside takeover of the Democratic Party. Hillary was fighting on two fronts, and ratfuckers were running rampant, doing whatever they could to damage HRC’s campaign.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:55:21pm

One upding short of 85K!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:57:41pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 9, 2017 • 10:58:54pm
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retired cynic  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:01:03pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

It took a number of bowling balls rolling down the lane, with a number in the gutter, to bring all the pins down. Not just one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:04:52pm

re: #30 retired cynic

It took a number of bowling balls rolling down the lane, with a number in the gutter, to bring all the pins down. Not just one.

It also took a climate of political and public discourse that was not only mean, petty and toxic, but celebrated meanness, pettiness and toxicity.

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teleskiguy  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:04:55pm

Breaks my heart to this day that Hillary Clinton - a stateswoman of high stature - isn’t president. I cast my vote for her proudly, knowing I was voting for the most qualified person for the job.

Six months into the Trump Horror, and it still hurts.

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Scout  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:05:48pm

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was a white college freshman wanker, but my views were heard only by the people I spoke to directly, I did not have the option of tweeting them to let the whole world what I wanker I was.

You speak for me as well … except I was probably even worse in my sophomore year.

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retired cynic  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:07:23pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

Breaks my heart to this day that Hillary Clinton - a stateswoman of high stature - isn’t president. I cast my vote for her proudly, knowing I was voting for the most qualified person for the job.

Six months into the Trump Horror, and it still hurts.

Absolutely. Friends and I nearly come to tears weekly.

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JordanRules  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:09:32pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

Same.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:11:22pm

re: #33 Scout

You speak for me as well … except I was probably even worse in my sophomore year.

Yeah, I was hanging out with a bunch of serious Ayn Randians…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:12:24pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

Breaks my heart to this day that Hillary Clinton - a stateswoman of high stature - isn’t president. I cast my vote for her proudly, knowing I was voting for the most qualified person for the job.

Six months into the Trump Horror, and it still hurts.

I am still too numb to it all.

One thing, however, is that I cannot really laugh at any Trump-based humor, I see nothing in it that I find funny.

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Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:13:34pm

It’s funny, but how are “working class” or “progressive” not identities around which the Bros have based their politics? Considering the number of times that they tried to draw lines between those who belonged to these groups and those who didn’t, it seems sort of odd that they want people to believe that they’re for “all voters” when clearly they want nothing to do with voters who don’t think like they do.

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:14:12pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

What would we do without young white college freshman wankers.

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I just finished The Peripheral by William Gibson. In the story, they have software installed in one of the peripherals - a synthetic body that can be controlled via telepresence - that allows the simulation of “bullshit” speech. That quote reminds me of the bullshit the software spewed.

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teleskiguy  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:15:33pm

Want to know something funny? Hillary Clinton is taking all this Fuckface Von Clownstick balderdash better than most of us. A quote stood out in her recent profile in New York Magazine, she said the only time in her entire life she’s ever been to therapy was when Bill was being impeached and she - along with everyone in the country - was privy to all his salacious behavior at the time. Marriage counseling. That’s it. On a mental level she deals with everything in her life on her own terms. One tough fuckin’ cookie.

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retired cynic  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:18:39pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

I have been a fan since I first became aware of her, and it was when Bill made the big speech as a young up-and-comer at the Democratic National Convention. They obviously started planning at that point, if not long before, and I got their books at the time.

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teleskiguy  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:23:10pm

re: #41 retired cynic

Looking back today, her career is impressive. Pisses me off when I see folks compare her to Henry Kissinger.

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Kragar  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:28:15pm

Finally saw the first Kingsman movie

Best line of the movie: “I’m a Catholic whore, currently enjoying congress out of wedlock with my black Jewish boyfriend who works at a military abortion clinic. So, hail Satan, and have a lovely afternoon, madam.”

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teleskiguy  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:28:50pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:35:20pm

BEST SIGN EVER!

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sagehen  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:42:29pm

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was a white college freshman wanker, but my views were heard only by the people I spoke to directly, I did not have the option of tweeting them to let the whole world what I wanker I was.

I will be forever grateful that my misspent youth took place entirely before camera phones, youtube or twitter. There’s no proof of any of it.

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Kragar  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:54:46pm
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Kragar  Jul 9, 2017 • 11:57:10pm
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sagehen  Jul 10, 2017 • 12:05:16am

Somebody’s turning out to be more liberal that he seemed like in his early days on the job:

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sagehen  Jul 10, 2017 • 12:08:51am
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sagehen  Jul 10, 2017 • 12:49:17am

THREAD OMG THREAD

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Kragar  Jul 10, 2017 • 12:53:52am
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Alephnaught  Jul 10, 2017 • 1:13:26am

re: #47 Kragar

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That’s the Metro station for Chueca, which is the main “gay village” in Madrid, so what do they expect?

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freetoken  Jul 10, 2017 • 1:37:19am

re: #52 Kragar

That tweet by Trump ought to be evidence in a trial that he’s not even competent to write a paragraph that makes sense.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 10, 2017 • 2:13:47am

re: #47 Kragar

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All in your safe spacez, triggering you on your commute.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 10, 2017 • 2:32:29am

There aren’t words,

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 2:32:42am

re: #46 sagehen

I will be forever grateful that my misspent youth took place entirely before camera phones, youtube or twitter. There’s no proof of any of it.

My sentiments exactly. And that very few photos exist.

I still have diaries from the early 90’s, not my youth but my early adulthood, and they are embarrassing enough.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 2:35:22am

re: #53 Alephnaught

That’s the Metro station for Chueca, which is the main “gay village” in Madrid, so what do they expect?

Rainbows make me puke. All I want is the pot of gold…

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 10, 2017 • 3:25:07am

re: #32 teleskiguy

Breaks my heart to this day that Hillary Clinton - a stateswoman of high stature - isn’t president. I cast my vote for her proudly, knowing I was voting for the most qualified person for the job.

Six months into the Trump Horror, and it still hurts.

It will forever hurt. I was super confident that Secretary Clinton would win easily and am still in shock that Trump is in the White House. His lack of any qualifications and horrible demeanor are a constant embarrassment to this country. How the hell did we get so low to put someone like that in a position of power over us? The only explanation I can come up with is that he cheated and didn’t really win.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 3:40:51am

re: #59 Patricia Kayden

It will forever hurt. I was super confident that Secretary Clinton would win easily and am still in shock that Trump is in the White House. His lack of any qualifications and horrible demeanor are a constant embarrassment to this country. How the hell did we get so low to put someone like that in a position of power over us? The only explanation I can come up with is that he cheated and didn’t really win.

He did not cheat: he gamed the system and won. He knew how much Americans were fed up with politicians and politics as usual and marketed himself as the anti-politician. That made him immune to gaffes that would have sunk any other politician’s campaign and even career.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 10, 2017 • 3:47:37am

So he’s retweeting Fox and Friends and screaming “Comey!!!”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 3:48:43am

re: #61 Dave In Austin

James Comey leaked CLASSIFIED INFORMATION to the media. That is so illegal!

the facts that the leaks related to other illegal activity is irrelevant.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 10, 2017 • 3:50:24am

Squirrel!!

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Botsplainer  Jul 10, 2017 • 4:16:56am

Fun query about Trump Junior’s acquaintance Goldstone and his “client” - Goldstone is being put forth as a music promoter, and his “client” is the son of a Putin-aligned criminal oligarch.

Who among us hasn’t heard the dulcet tones of Agalarov? Such promotion must have occurred!

Either that, or Goldstone is a spy handler.

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Scout  Jul 10, 2017 • 4:20:32am

re: #51 sagehen

That thread is absolutely amazing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 10, 2017 • 4:38:13am

He’s getting his “intel briefings” from Fox & Friends

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 10, 2017 • 4:52:16am

Whoa looky here:

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Scout  Jul 10, 2017 • 4:58:52am

re: #67 The Vicious Babushka

What was it JK Rowling tweeted?

“You tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny little man.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:03:38am
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Jay C  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:03:39am

re: #67 The Vicious Babushka

Whoa looky here:

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Whoa indeed!

So does this mean Ivanka was holding the seat for him while he “gave our country away” ??
Freudian slip?

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:08:09am

re: #51 sagehen

THREAD OMG THREAD

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So now we move onto the next stage of every Republican scandal, which is shifting the narrative from “No crime occurred!” to “The man at the center of all this was totally in dark about what his closest advisors/family were involved in!”

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steve_davis  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:12:00am

re: #59 Patricia Kayden

It will forever hurt. I was super confident that Secretary Clinton would win easily and am still in shock that Trump is in the White House. His lack of any qualifications and horrible demeanor are a constant embarrassment to this country. How the hell did we get so low to put someone like that in a position of power over us? The only explanation I can come up with is that he cheated and didn’t really win.

Simple. The people in places where it mattered couldn’t be bothered to get off their asses and vote. If Democrats voted every election, and not just when they feel a candidate is sexy enough for them, they would easily control all 3 branches of government. For a demonstration of this, watch the next two elections—the wave that’s coming in 2018, and then the sexy, sexy liberal we run in 2020 who will again generate a wave. (Probably Cory Booker, who is admittedly a bit of a showman, but who even this middle-aged heterosexual will admit looks good in a business suit, and probably pretty good in a birthday suit as well.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:14:22am

So last night I watched “Get Out” Jordan Peele’s horror movie, or as I call it, “The Stepford Negroes”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:36:26am

I see someone is up early and cranky.

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:38:44am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I see someone is up early and cranky.

I suspect he got basically told by his lawyers that Don Jr might need to be taken on the lake for some “fishing.”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:39:26am

So, nothing much happened this weekend right? POTUS G20 trip was a rip-roaring success, all quiet on the domestic front.

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:40:22am

re: #67 The Vicious Babushka

Whoa looky here:

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
If Chelsea Clinton were asked to hold the seat for her mother,as her mother gave our country away, the Fake News would say CHELSEA FOR PRES!
7:47 AM - 10 Jul 2017
1,508 1,508 Retweets 5,333 5,333 likes

That is the official Trump Tweet right?

Is he admitting he was busy giving the country away???

It’s early I may be confused…Trump can do that to you.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:40:47am

re: #75 Targetpractice

I suspect he got basically told by his lawyers that Don Jr might need to be taken on the lake for some “fishing.”

You think he does a Hail Mary too?”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:41:02am

I just want to see all these clowns go down—Donny Jr. and Kellyanne especially. And Bannon (who isn’t getting much attention these days). And the other Trump son.

Does that make me a bad person?

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:41:09am

re: #70 Jay C

Whoa indeed!

So does this mean Ivanka was holding the seat for him while he “gave our country away” ??
Freudian slip?

Good…I’m not the only one that read it that way.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:41:53am

re: #79 Sir John Barron

I just want to see all these clowns go down—Donny Jr. and Kellyanne especially. And Bannon (who isn’t getting much attention these days). And the other Trump son.

Does that make me a bad person?

No.

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:44:17am

I think what I especially love is how it seems The Gray Lady was clever enough to space out the reports, giving Junior a chance to hang himself with his own words. I say “seems” because I can’t disprove that it was nothing more than a happy coincidence that they spaced out the reports as such.

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:46:07am

re: #79 Sir John Barron

I just want to see all these clowns go down—Donny Jr. and Kellyanne especially. And Bannon (who isn’t getting much attention these days). And the other Trump son.

Does that make me a bad person?

Only thing bad about your comment is you didn’t include enough Trumpians in your “especially” inclusions. I think they all deserve to go down. Hard.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:46:17am

re: #82 Targetpractice

I think what I especially love is how it seems The Gray Lady was clever enough to space out the reports, giving Junior a chance to hang himself with his own words. I say “seems” because I can’t disprove that it was nothing more than a happy coincidence that they spaced out the reports as such.

I would at least like to believe that there were some long-game journalists with an axe to grind, moving cautiosly and incrementally and baiting Trump and his minions to totally tie themselves in knots.

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:47:33am

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would at least like to believe that there were some long-game journalists with an axe to grind, moving cautiosly and incrementally and baiting Trump and his minions to totally tie themselves in knots.

That’s what I’d like to believe as well, but given the sort of “Both Sider”-ist shit that pervades their editorial pages these days, I have some difficulty believing that they suddenly want to help hasten the fall of the House of Trump.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:48:01am

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would at least like to believe that there were some long-game journalists with an axe to grind, moving cautiosly and incrementally and baiting Trump and his minions to totally tie themselves in knots.

Meanwhile, the Trumpbots are windmilling out an ever expanding and changing list of excuses and diversions.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:48:05am

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

What would we do without young white college freshman wankers.

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Bernie could be implicated as a participant in this election tampering scandal with Putin**, and these Bro nitwits would find a way to justify it with William F. Buckley-level drivel.

**At this point, it wouldn’t surprise me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:49:15am

re: #83 ObserverArt

Only thing bad about your comment is you didn’t include enough Trumpians in your “especially” inclusions. I think they all deserve to go down. Hard.

Except Tiffany and Barron. They are innocent bystanders.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:50:10am

re: #87 Myron Falwell

Bernie could be implicated as a participant in this election tampering scandal with Putin**, and these Bro nitwits would find a way to justify it with William F. Buckley-level drivel.

**At this point, it wouldn’t surprise me.

Add Jill Stein to the list of collaborators.

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:51:13am

re: #86 Sir John Barron

Meanwhile, the Trumpbots are windmilling out an ever expanding and changing list of excuses and diversions.

Let me guess, the top of the list is “IT WAS A SETUP!!!!”, ignoring the reality that if you fall for the set-up, then it doesn’t matter anymore if you were set up.

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:52:53am

re: #82 Targetpractice

I think what I especially love is how it seems The Gray Lady was clever enough to space out the reports, giving Junior a chance to hang himself with his own words. I say “seems” because I can’t disprove that it was nothing more than a happy coincidence that they spaced out the reports as such.

I really do not get the NY Times. It seems they have different departments that all act in their own manner. And then you get the guest opinions which can be all over the place. I guess that is modern journalism in the Balance Reporting World. It comes off schizophrenic.

The WaPo folks seemed to be a bit more coordinated in comparison.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:55:36am

re: #82 Targetpractice

I think what I especially love is how it seems The Gray Lady was clever enough to space out the reports, giving Junior a chance to hang himself with his own words. I say “seems” because I can’t disprove that it was nothing more than a happy coincidence that they spaced out the reports as such.

Qusay Trump is dumber than a box of hair. That, or he’s as incompetent as his daddy, and probably thought self-incrimination is a good thing.

It wouldn’t be a surprise to see the Times reporters using such a tactic, although of course they’d never admit to it.

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:56:28am

re: #85 Targetpractice

That’s what I’d like to believe as well, but given the sort of “Both Sider”-ist shit that pervades their editorial pages these days, I have some difficulty believing that they suddenly want to help hasten the fall of the House of Trump.

I think they want to take Trump down, they just don’t want to lose any readers or piss anyone off doing it. Such is the state of journalism in the U.S.

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Scout  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:56:56am

Personally, I subscribe to the theory he finally admitted to looking for Clinton dirt to hide an even bigger transgression. But that’s probably no more than wishful thinking on my part.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:57:03am

re: #90 Targetpractice

Let me guess, the top of the list is “IT WAS A SETUP!!!!”, ignoring the reality that if you fall for the set-up, then it doesn’t matter anymore if you were set up.

This is a nothing-burger, just politics, no big deal.

This was set up by democratic operative we have the proofs!

What about uranium one and Hillary emails and The Tarmac!!!

just about adoption policies.

Not illegal!!!!!

The real issue is Who Leaked This?

Deep State strikes again!

Fake News!!!1

All campaigns meet with foreign agents to smear their opponents.

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 5:58:30am

re: #88 The Vicious Babushka

Except Tiffany and Barron. They are innocent bystanders.

Agreed. I meant all those Trumpians involved in the the politics directly. Family, staff, outsider scum like Manafort and Stone.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:01:33am

re: #94 Scout

Personally, I subscribe to the theory he finally admitted to looking for Clinton dirt to hide an even bigger transgression. But that’s probably no more than wishful thinking on my part.

Yeah, who admits to agreeing to a meeting with a foreign agent to get dirt on your American opponent?

Someone either really dumb, or who feels untouchable, or who knows someone else is talking.

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makeitstop  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:07:57am

re: #92 Myron Falwell

Qusay Trump is dumber than a box of hair.

They all are, even Princess Evita, who gets portrayed as the ‘smart’ one.

Look closely at any photo of any of them. Take away the hair grease and the designer suits and look at their faces. The inherent stupidity is right there, and once you see it it cannot be unseen.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:12:54am

re: #59 Patricia Kayden

It will forever hurt. I was super confident that Secretary Clinton would win easily and am still in shock that Trump is in the White House. His lack of any qualifications and horrible demeanor are a constant embarrassment to this country. How the hell did we get so low to put someone like that in a position of power over us? The only explanation I can come up with is that he cheated and didn’t really win.

I did not share your confidence, especially after the Bundy criminals were acquitted a couple weeks before the election and then Comey threw a wrench into the campaign. The Michigan primary polling fiasco should have alerted everyone that polls are not reliable. On election night, before the votes were counted, I was an absolute wreck because I believed it would not go well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:15:33am

re: #99 Hecuba’s daughter

I did not share your confidence, especially after the Bundy criminals were acquitted a couple weeks before the election and then Comey threw a wrench into the campaign. The Michigan primary polling fiasco should have alerted everyone that polls are not reliable. On election night, before the votes were counted, I was an absolute wreck because I believed it would not go well.

Michael Moore correctly predicted the outcome months in advance, and I ignored it because I find him an annoying gadfly and attention-seeker.

But reading his article again, he had it nailed: all DT needed to do was to hold the states that Romney won in 2012 and pick up PA, OH,MI and WI, which is where he concentrated his efforts and won by a narrow margin thanks to third-party voters and massive Machiavellian ratfucking.

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makeitstop  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:17:07am

Chelsea throws some shade.

Gonna be a very interesting week, y’all.

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jeffreyw  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:21:15am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Myron Falwell  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:21:29am

Imagine that

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Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:22:05am

re: #72 steve_davis

…. For a demonstration of this, watch the next two elections—the wave that’s coming in 2018, and then the sexy, sexy liberal we run in 2020 who will again generate a wave….

I hope you’re right. You’re wrong.

There is no evidence that Alabama Democrats learned a damn thing from this baton-to-the-head. We either collect every freakn’ vote possible from every part of the progressive spectrum, or we give them 8 years to make democracy unsalvageable.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:24:44am

re: #101 makeitstop

Chelsea throws some shade.

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Gonna be a very interesting week, y’all.

And she said it so diplomatically. I couldn’t have. I would have slipped the term “shitstain” somewhere in the tweet.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:30:30am
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Jay C  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:33:07am

re: #80 ObserverArt

Good…I’m not the only one that read it that way.

Heh. Not just you and me, either: see
re: #101 makeitstop

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Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:34:37am

A Tail of Two Headlines:

Miami Beach area swimmer attacked by shark

CNN 6h ago

0:28
Man Grabs Shark By The Tail - And Gets Viciously Bitten
YouTube

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HappyWarrior  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:34:43am

re: #106 The Vicious Babushka

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Why, it’s almost like he has a problem with the truth. Lock him up.//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:35:28am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Why, it’s almost like he has a problem with the truth. Lock him up.//

He can afford as many versions of the truth that suit him…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:38:59am

re: #101 makeitstop

Chelsea throws some shade.

Gonna be a very interesting week, y’all.

Chelsea is all class. Not like some people we know.

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:39:03am

re: #106 The Vicious Babushka

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In 48 hours, we went from “That meeting never happened” to “It happened, but it was totally innocuous” to finally “It happened, we went in expecting to get damaging info on Hillary, but nothing illegal happened.”

Again, the most telling part of the last 48 hours is how Trumps lawyers defending Junior up until the moment he confessed to having gone into the meeting to get info on Hillary, at which time they immediately disassociated him from their client.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:40:20am

re: #112 Targetpractice

In 48 hours, we went from “That meeting never happened” to “It happened, but it was totally innocuous” to finally “It happened, we went in expecting to get damaging info on Hillary, but nothing illegal happened.”

Again, the most telling part of the last 48 hours is how Trumps lawyers defending Junior up until the moment he confessed to having gone into the meeting to get info on Hillary, at which time they immediately disassociated him from their client.

Also

Bitch set me up!

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:41:49am

re: #107 Jay C

Heh. Not just you and me, either: see

Yeah. We stand with Chelsea.

We are real close to Trump just coming out and saying: “I did it, I conspired with the Russians because I was told they had the goods on Hillary and I already had the contacts in Flynn and Manafort. Stone told me how to do it. And I’d do it again. I want to make America great and the Russians wanted to help. I would do anything to keep Clinton out of the office because I don’t want a woman leading this country.”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:43:28am

re: #112 Targetpractice

In 48 hours, we went from “That meeting never happened” to “It happened, but it was totally innocuous” to finally “It happened, we went in expecting to get damaging info on Hillary, but nothing illegal happened.”

Again, the most telling part of the last 48 hours is how Trumps lawyers defending Junior up until the moment he confessed to having gone into the meeting to get info on Hillary, at which time they immediately disassociated him from their client.

How did the NYT learn about the meeting? I know they talked to WH aides, but how did they know to talk to them about it?

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:43:37am

re: #114 ObserverArt

Yeah. We stand with Chelsea.

We are real close to Trump just coming out and saying: “I did it, I conspired with the Russians because I was told they had the goods on Hillary and I already had the contacts in Flynn and Manafort. Stone told me how to do it. And I’d do it again. I want to make America great and the Russians wanted to help. I would do anything to keep Clinton out of the office because I don’t want a woman leading this country.”

You know, I suspect you might be right. The man is so convinced he’s done nothing wrong, done nothing more than any other campaign in the past has, that it would not surprise me that when the other shoe finally drops, he’ll proudly boast of having worked with Russian agents than deny it ever happened. After all, he’s “Making America Great Again,” he won the election, so obviously the American people support such actions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:44:31am

re: #114 ObserverArt

Yeah. We stand with Chelsea.

We are real close to Trump just coming out and saying: “I did it, I conspired with the Russians because I was told they had the goods on Hillary and I already had the contacts in Flynn and Manafort. Stone told me how to do it. And I’d do it again. I want to make America great and the Russians wanted to help. I would do anything to keep Clinton out of the office because I don’t want a woman leading this country.”

That would be the defense he would offer if he were brought up on charges, yes.

And why not? Russia is an authoritarian, oligarchic theocracy: exactly what the GOP wants to establish in America, the only difference being that their theocracy would be Fundamentalist Protestant rather than Russian Orthodox.

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:45:54am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:46:25am

re: #114 ObserverArt

Yeah. We stand with Chelsea.

We are real close to Trump just coming out and saying: “I did it, I conspired with the Russians because I was told they had the goods on Hillary and I already had the contacts in Flynn and Manafort. Stone told me how to do it. And I’d do it again. I want to make America great and the Russians wanted to help. I would do anything to keep Clinton out of the office because I don’t want a woman leading this country.”

And when President B-Hole says that, Hannity, Franky Graham, Alex Jones, Jeffrey Lord and every other GOP apologist will STILL spin that remark in B-Hole’s favor! Every one of those assholes will say that there’s nothing wrong with what B-Hole did!

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:47:17am

re: #114 ObserverArt

Yeah. We stand with Chelsea.

We are real close to Trump just coming out and saying: “I did it, I conspired with the Russians because I was told they had the goods on Hillary and I already had the contacts in Flynn and Manafort. Stone told me how to do it. And I’d do it again. I want to make America great and the Russians wanted to help. I would do anything to keep Clinton out of the office because I don’t want a woman leading this country.”

And within 24 hours, 40% of the country would think this was fantastic and be in full-throated support. Another 20% or so would be mostly unaware and hear about in a week from a media that presented Both Sides and be unsure as to whether it was important, and Both Sides do it, and I wish they’d just stop fighting.

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:48:04am

re: #115 Sir John Barron

How did the NYT learn about the meeting? I know they talked to WH aides, but how did they know to talk to them about it?

I personally believe that it’s somebody like Rinsed Prius, somebody in the White House who has decided that his being marched out of office will do less damage to the GOP in the long term than allowing him to serve his full term.

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:49:10am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:49:15am

re: #115 Sir John Barron

How did the NYT learn about the meeting? I know they talked to WH aides, but how did they know to talk to them about it?

Shouldn’t have stiffed the doorman.

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lawhawk  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:51:12am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. These days, the resistance isn’t just talking about Trump and his cabal of cronies, but the mass transit mess resulting from decades of underfunding critical infrastructure maintenance and improvements. There’s still a resistance to building critical infrastructure - even NY Gov Cuomo, who has designs on being president, is more interested in building bridges and shiny buildings (headhouses) than making sure that the tunnels, tracks, signals, and switches are modernized in any kind of timely fashion. He’s more interested in his vanity airtrain project to LGA than he is in making sure that the Penn Station access is improved at the platform level (where the real issues start), let alone improved connections via the NEC and the Hudson River tunnels.

But I digress (and my commute this morning was relatively smooth despite the worries that things would be disrupted due to the first day of the transit work at Penn Station).

The real resistance is that Trump continues to resist reality, and the GOP continues enabling Trump despite that every single fucking day there’s a new revelation showing just how complicit Trump and his spawn and his cronies were in trying to get Russia to help them win the election.

The arc of these stories usually is:
1) Trump makes grandiose claims that he’s got contacts/friends in Russia.
2) Trump asks Russia to hack Clinton for those emails - publicly (and caught on video)
3) Trump denies saying all of that; denies that he had any meetings with Russians ever
3a) Video shows Trump meeting with Russians and/or bragging about contacts with Russians, including Putin;
4) Trump spawn and cronies meet with Russians, including Kislyak;
5) Trump spawn and cronies deny any meetings with Russians;
6) Trump spawn and cronies claim that they didn’t discuss anything campaign related
7) Trump spawn and cronies change stories multiple times and admit that they sought info from Russians about Clinton to help them win election
8) GOP continues enabling Trump and his complicit admin every step.
9) Trump (spawn and cronies) lawyers up
10) lawyers avoid Trump Sr. knowing his history of screwing over people that work for him on the pay they are owed.

11) Mueller continues collecting evidence and information showing Trump collusion, complicity, and criminality.

Of these, 11 is a job that is continually expanding thanks to the fact that Trump, his spawn, and his cronies are so corrupt and complicit, that it’s impossible for any of them to keep their stories straight and that they also tend to brag about their exploits.

Trump can’t help but brag about his actions, and his spawn are no different. They keep digging themselves a bigger hole, and the problem is that they’re taking the rest of the nation with them.

The best is the Trump twits who think that if charges haven’t been filed so far, that this is some kind of witch hunt. So sayeth the fucknuts who despite years of investigations into Clinton couldn’t find a single criminal act, and yet still thought she was guilty of something.

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Jay C  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:52:39am

re: #111 Sir John Barron

Chelsea is all class. Not like some people we know.

Also, she and her mom have similar abilities in twitter-fu (wonder who learned from who?):
Trump’s tweets are like flailing around with a baseball bat: Chelsea and Hillary use theirs like rapiers (or stilettos).

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harlequinade  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:53:29am

With all the talk about Trump, Trump Jnr etc. when are we going to ask:

GOP, what did you know, and when did you know it?

Did Trump run his campaign entirely in a vacuum?

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:54:26am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:55:08am

re: #126 harlequinade

With all the talk about Trump, Trump Jnr etc. when are we going to ask:

GOP, what did you know, and when did you know it?

Did Trump run his campaign entirely in a vacuum?

Never let that thought go. Trump is a passing fever. The GOP is the infection in the brainstem.

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:55:43am

I’m still holding to my prediction that Trump will fire Mueller before summer’s end. The noose is tightening too fast for him to avoid the temptation forever.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:58:03am

re: #122 darthstar

How Trump/Fox are perpetual propaganda machines: Trump hears allegation on Fox; Trump repeats allegation; & Fox reports “Trump Has Alleged”

When “Trending on Twitter” became a regular news item, I knew that the end of Western Civilization as we know it was at hand…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:58:27am

re: #129 Targetpractice

I’m still holding to my prediction that Trump will fire Mueller before summer’s end. The noose is tightening too fast for him to avoid the temptation forever.

Sadly, most of the GOP will allow him to do this. The only punishment would be the 2018 vote. Which the GOP is trying to suppress.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:00:37am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When “Trending on Twitter” became a regular news item, I knew that the end of Western Civilization as we know it was at hand…

I thought it was letting Gandhi get nukes.

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:02:23am

re: #129 Targetpractice

I’m still holding to my prediction that Trump will fire Mueller before summer’s end. The noose is tightening too fast for him to avoid the temptation forever.

And that will be the last thing he does as President. Doing it now after all this build up and new evidence coming out will guarantee he is obstructing. That most likely would trigger a full special investigator outside any control by congress.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:04:03am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:05:11am

re: #134 FormerDirtDart

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Lumpy is having a Twitter meltdown for his fuhrer again I see.

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:05:56am

re: #134 FormerDirtDart

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Lumpy seems to be getting closer and closer to a Jonesian-style meltdown on live TV.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:06:42am

Coming up next to defend L’il Asshole Junior…

Just wait for Butthead Jeffrey Lord!
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HappyWarrior  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:08:32am

re: #136 Targetpractice

Lumpy seems to be getting closer and closer to a Jonesian-style meltdown on live TV.

He really is a pathetic toady.

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scottslemmons  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:10:15am

re: #136 Targetpractice

Lumpy seems to be getting closer and closer to a Jonesian-style meltdown on live TV.

I’m assuming he’s met more than a few Russians in the past few years, recognizes their names in the news, and is starting to suspect he’ll spend a big chunk of the rest of his life in a federal penitentiary. He’s in a wall-eyed screaming panic.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:12:12am

re: #134 FormerDirtDart

HRC mishandles and destroys classified info-NO PROBLEM! Pay/play on Uranium one NO PROBLEM! Lynch BC tarmac: it’s a “matter” NO PROBLEM

— Sean Hannity

This is a Hannity greatest hits album, minus the Seth Rich conspiracy, and Benghazi. His response to the newest Trump trouble is to start spitting out non-sequiturs without bothering to wipe the spittle off his chin as the foam from his mouth splatters his index cards.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:12:13am

Here, snort this Magic Laissez Fairyland Dust!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:14:10am

re: #134 FormerDirtDart

The Tarmac! Uranium One!!!!!!!!1

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makeitstop  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:17:38am

I’m watching this administration (such as it is) starting to unravel like a badly knitted afghan. I’m really not getting the defeatism here.

I’m of the mind that if Uday (or is it Qusay?) as much as admitted meeting with this Russian to get damaging info on Clinton, it can only be because they’re trying to get out ahead of something that’s even worse.

And whoever is leaking these loose ends to the media knows exactly how to push Trump’s buttons and goad him into incriminating himself and his family, sinking himself deeper into a legal bind that even Congress and Fox News won’t be able to get him out of.

The wheels are coming off, and this whole cabal has proven so inept that they’re running out of feet to shoot. I’m enjoying the hell out of it.

That’s my pollyanna-ish take on it, anyway.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:22:26am

re: #142 Sir John Barron

The Tarmac! Uranium One!!!!!!!!1

BENGHAAAAAAAAAZIIIII!!!1!!1!!!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:23:07am

re: #143 makeitstop

I’m watching this administration (such as it is) starting to unravel like a badly knitted afghan. I’m really not getting the defeatism here.

I’m of the mind that if Uday (or is it Qusay?) as much as admitted meeting with this Russian to get damaging info on Clinton, it can only be because they’re trying to get out ahead of something that’s even worse.

And whoever is leaking these loose ends to the media knows exactly how to push Trump’s buttons and goad him into incriminating himself and his family, sinking himself deeper into a legal bind that even Congress and Fox News won’t be able to get him out of.

The wheels are coming off, and this whole cabal has proven so inept that they’re running out of feet to shoot. I’m enjoying the hell out of it.

That’s my pollyanna-ish take on it, anyway.

That’s not an upside scenario if the people kneecapping Trump are the Pence faction of the mainstream GOP. Dumping Trump for Pence is a credible Plan B for this whole exercise. It will be obvious when the establishment Repubs start scrapping off the MAGA crap.

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Teukka  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:23:42am

re: #108 Decatur Deb

A Tail of Two Headlines:

Miami Beach area swimmer attacked by shark

CNN 6h ago

0:28
Man Grabs Shark By The Tail - And Gets Viciously Bitten
YouTube

Improperly headlined. It should be #FloridaMan strikes again. Or should that be #FloriduhMan strikes again?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:25:01am

re: #143 makeitstop

I’m watching this administration (such as it is) starting to unravel like a badly knitted afghan. I’m really not getting the defeatism here.

I’m of the mind that if Uday (or is it Qusay?) as much as admitted meeting with this Russian to get damaging info on Clinton, it can only be because they’re trying to get out ahead of something that’s even worse.

And whoever is leaking these loose ends to the media knows exactly how to push Trump’s buttons and goad him into incriminating himself and his family, sinking himself deeper into a legal bind that even Congress and Fox News won’t be able to get him out of.

The wheels are coming off, and this whole cabal has proven so inept that they’re running out of feet to shoot. I’m enjoying the hell out of it.

That’s my pollyanna-ish take on it, anyway.

Yeah, but it seems like there’s been a lot of this already (the pussy tape, the Flynn business, the firing of Comey, the obvious obstruction of justice in asking Comey to back off Flynn, DJT diverging secret info to the Russians in the oval office, the blackmail of Morning Joe, etc). I’ve forgotten half the stuff that’s happened already that I thought would be more damaging but I’m afraid a lot of this is being normalized to a degree I wouldn’t have imagined. And the GOP continues to stand by him.

OTOH, the firing of Comey did precipitate the hiring of Mueller as special counsel, which in turn is uncovering a lot this stuff. And it wasn’t like the Mueller investigation was going to be over and done with, followed by impeachment, in a week or month. These things take time I know. I’m just hopeful that the truth will eventually win out, that justice will be served.

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Jenner7  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:26:47am

Who would of thought Eric wasn’t the dumb one?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:28:33am

re: #148 Jenner7

Who would of thought Eric wasn’t the dumb one?

NOT INCONSISTENT TOTALLY CONSISTENT FAKE NEWS!!!

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lawhawk  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:28:58am

re: #148 Jenner7

The fact that he’s not denying that the reason the meeting was called was to get incriminating info about Clinton is the problem.

It’s the intention. That the Russians didn’t provide him with the info he sought is irrelevant.

The intent to collude with the Russians in the first place is the evidence of a criminal act.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:29:05am
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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:29:14am

I saw this mentioned at another discussion forum. I guess it got pretty bizarre and went on for some time. So far this is all I could find. The WaPo story goes into detail.

Iframe

CNN - Kellyanne Conway

President Trump calls CNN “fake news,” and White House press secretary Sean Spicer seldom takes questions from the network’s journalists, but counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway could not get enough of CNN on Monday.

For 35 minutes, Conway sparred with anchor Chris Cuomo, mostly over press coverage. A standard TV appearance lasts five to 10 minutes, and Cuomo tried several times to wrap up the interview, saying that producers were telling him through an earpiece that the White House wanted to end it.

But Conway kept going, and CNN blew past one commercial break after another to let her spirited exchange with Cuomo play out.

“Your people say you have to go, by the way,” Cuomo told Conway at the 28-minute mark. “So you make sure that the White House press office doesn’t yell at me. … I’ve got people yelling in my ear that you have to go.”

The whole episode made for riveting TV, largely because of the interpersonal dynamic. Cuomo told viewers after the interview finally concluded that he and Conway have known each other for many years, and it showed. Although each grew heated at times, neither became nasty; their mutual respect was apparent.

- - CUT - -

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:29:55am

re: #148 Jenner7

No inconsistency in statements, meeting ended up being primarily about adoptions. In response to further Q’s I simply provided more details.

— Donald Trump Jr.

I was expecting juicy shit about Hillary but it was a bunch of crap about adoptions and sanctions. But not collusion although collusion is OK.

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Teukka  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:30:58am

re: #146 Teukka

Improperly headlined. It should be #FloridaMan strikes again. Or should that be #FloriduhMan strikes again?

At closer inspection, the guy grabbing the shark by the tail seems to be #NorthCarolinaMan.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:31:27am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:32:02am

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

Noot Grinch says the President cannot be sued for libel.

/

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:34:50am

re: #152 ObserverArt

I saw this mentioned at another discussion forum. I guess it got pretty bizarre and went on for some time. So far this is all I could find. The WaPo story goes into detail.

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CNN - Kellyanne Conway

Who in their right mind would watch 28 minutes of KAC?

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lawhawk  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:35:49am

re: #151 FormerDirtDart

Assumes that Trump can even get a hearing scheduled for his nominee for the Secretary of Navy…

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:36:42am

re: #143 makeitstop

I’m watching this administration (such as it is) starting to unravel like a badly knitted afghan. I’m really not getting the defeatism here.

I’m of the mind that if Uday (or is it Qusay?) as much as admitted meeting with this Russian to get damaging info on Clinton, it can only be because they’re trying to get out ahead of something that’s even worse.

And whoever is leaking these loose ends to the media knows exactly how to push Trump’s buttons and goad him into incriminating himself and his family, sinking himself deeper into a legal bind that even Congress and Fox News won’t be able to get him out of.

The wheels are coming off, and this whole cabal has proven so inept that they’re running out of feet to shoot. I’m enjoying the hell out of it.

That’s my pollyanna-ish take on it, anyway.

I’m trying hard not to mention the defeatism. I don’t understand it either. I guess some people just need to be negative to make themselves feel better. It must be some way to cope. Think the worst so in case it happens it won’t be as shocking or something.

I think it is unhealthy. But maybe for others it is the way through.

Also, our instant info world must think with all this info Trump should already be gone. This all takes time. Use Watergate as a guide.

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lawhawk  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:36:45am
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Birth Control Works  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:37:03am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:39:34am

I dunno why Daddy Don is fussing over Diaper Don. He could just pardon him in the end anyway…………………………..

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:40:10am

re: #145 Decatur Deb

That’s not an upside scenario if the people kneecapping Trump are the Pence faction of the mainstream GOP. Dumping Trump for Pence is a credible Plan B for this whole exercise. It will be obvious when the establishment Repubs start scrapping off the MAGA crap.

Should Trump go down it is going to hurt Pence and the entire GOP. All the excuses and dodging is going to cost them. Pence may become President, but deeply wounded he will be. Same will go for Mitch and Pauly.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:40:23am

So baby Trumpman meets with a Russian to get damaging info on HRC, but doesn’t get any?

really?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:40:32am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:42:00am

re: #145 Decatur Deb

That’s not an upside scenario if the people kneecapping Trump are the Pence faction of the mainstream GOP. Dumping Trump for Pence is a credible Plan B for this whole exercise. It will be obvious when the establishment Repubs start scrapping off the MAGA crap.

Pence is the Fruit of the Poisonous Tree

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:42:02am

re: #148 Jenner7

Who would of thought Eric wasn’t the dumb one?

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Hasn’t anybody told this moron yet that the smartest move he could have made was to keep his mouth shut? Prosecutors live for moments like this, where a defendant doesn’t realize the hole he’s in and chooses to keep digging.

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:42:58am

re: #163 GlutenFreeJesus

I dunno why Daddy Don is fussing over Diaper Don. He could just pardon him in the end anyway…………………………..

It might damper the Medal of Freedom ceremony that he has planned for him.

//?

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:43:54am

re: #150 lawhawk

The fact that he’s not denying that the reason the meeting was called was to get incriminating info about Clinton is the problem.

It’s the intention. That the Russians didn’t provide him with the info he sought is irrelevant.

The intent to collude with the Russians in the first place is the evidence of a criminal act.

And falling for this hints they were already tapping into Russian connections looking for assistance.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:47:49am

That Russian spy is totally a honeypot. Just like Melania.

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:49:12am

re: #150 lawhawk

The fact that he’s not denying that the reason the meeting was called was to get incriminating info about Clinton is the problem.

It’s the intention. That the Russians didn’t provide him with the info he sought is irrelevant.

The intent to collude with the Russians in the first place is the evidence of a criminal act.

“You can’t charge me with attempted murder, none of my bullets hit her!”

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Birth Control Works  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:49:15am
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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:50:17am

re: #168 Targetpractice

Hasn’t anybody told this moron yet that the smartest move he could have made was to keep his mouth shut? Prosecutors live for moments like this, where a defendant doesn’t realize the hole he’s in and chooses to keep digging.

Hasn’t everyone learned no one tells Trump anything? Asking him to stop is asking him to increase the activity.

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:51:42am

So a story comes out about how you met with a drug dealer, at which time you insist it was just a social call and no drugs were exchanged.

Then a follow-up story reveals that the dealer offered to sell you cocaine at the meeting. Your “defense” is to admit that you did show up due to the offer of cocaine, but she didn’t actually have any to sell so you left empty-handed.

So you’ve just admitted that you were given an opportunity to break the law and had every intention of doing so. But you think that you’re in the clear because you don’t believe any laws were broken.

I can see that this apple didn’t fall far from the tree.

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Interesting Times  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:54:11am

re: #160 ObserverArt

I’m trying hard not to mention the defeatism. I don’t understand it either. I guess some people just need to be negative to make themselves feel better. It must be some way to cope. Think the worst so in case it happens it won’t be as shocking or something.

I’d say it comes from the sheer shellshock of seeing 62 million voters give Pumpkin Pinochet the go-ahead. Also, the unfathomable, bottomless depths of GOPer tribalism and lust for power at all costs. What do you do when ~40% of the population is willfully ignorant and batshit insane?

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Myron Falwell  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:55:50am

re: #79 Sir John Barron

I just want to see all these clowns go down—Donny Jr. and Kellyanne especially. And Bannon (who isn’t getting much attention these days). And the other Trump son.

Does that make me a bad person?

We have no idea just how fucked up Barron is being raised. He could become worse than Uday and Qusey, if not with a shred of competence.

It probably would be a good thing if he was placed in foster care freed of any ties to the family.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:57:59am

re: #177 Myron Falwell

We have no idea just how fucked up Barron is being raised. He could become worse than Uday and Qusey, if not with a shred of competence.

It probably would be a good thing if he was placed in foster care freed of any ties to the family.

yeah I meant Eric as the other son. and Steve Bannon. I do feel bad for Barron.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:58:14am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:59:59am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:01:08am

re: #177 Myron Falwell

I have a sliver of hope that whoever is raising him doesn’t actually like any of the Trump family, and is showing him how to act human.

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:02:40am

What still sticks out for me about this story is that Junior felt it necessary to bring Jared and Manafort to the meeting. I sort of doubt that they just went without a bit of info, and I likewise doubt that they went along with the whole “adoption” bit, so the only other conclusion is he told them that this woman was offering damaging info on Hillary and they followed along. Their silence on the matter is speaking volumes right now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:03:07am

re: #179 Birth Control Works

A Muslim activist referenced jihad and the right freaked out because they don’t know what it means

Jihad means polygamy, public beheadings and no more pork ribs!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:04:00am

One half of the Trumpbots on Twitter are still claiming the NYT story is FAKE NEWZ.

The other half that the meeting was no big deal.

And the third half believes that…..

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:04:05am

It is quite astonishing what Americans will memorialize these days

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:04:51am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Jihad means polygamy, public beheadings and no more pork ribs!

I’m pretty sure the pork ribs are the only things a lot of conservatives would be against.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:08:24am

re: #47 Kragar

Rage after Storm is a right-wing nutjob anti-feminist Christian. She has a very popular YouTube channel, which is frequently torn apart by atheists. Here’s one from 18 June by Godless Cranium (he is a Canadian, and is new there).

RageAfterStorm Doesn’t Understand Atheism

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:11:33am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:11:45am
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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:11:46am

re: #183 Targetpractice

I find it completely possible that Jr. had no clue what was going on, and the “adoptions” (wink wink) was a code word for sanctions.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:12:42am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:12:54am

re: #189 darthstar

KAC: OK, let’s just move on….

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Interesting Times  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:14:06am

re: #186 FormerDirtDart

It is quite astonishing what Americans will memorialize these days

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Actually, that happened in Canada. Also see the hubcaps on the parade float :)

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Dr. Matt  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:15:00am

“Both sides do-it” Smerconish took calls for an hour today to let people vent that the Trump-Russian story is BS. The media is failing America.

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:15:38am

[trump] I have met Donald Trump Jr. maybe one or two times, I think we might have talked about Ivanka, and I hardly know the guy at all… [/trump]

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:16:26am

Let’s check in with the folks at Fox to see how they’re handling this story:

Seriously, this is their only defense at this point: “Junior got tricked, that’s not a crime!”

Hey Brit, if an undercover cop offers sex for cash and I agree, I can’t later argue that my not having sex proves no crime occurred.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:17:38am

I didn’t realize Russia was such a coal user.

This is interesting.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:19:00am

re: #197 Targetpractice

Fox’s Brit Hume insists Don Jr tricked by Russian lawyer’s ‘bait and switch’ and no evidence of collusion rawstory.com pic.twitter.com

— Raw Story

Sad to see Brit Hume, a long timer at ABC News and now in semi-retirement from Faux, continue to sink lower and lower into the wingnut slime.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:19:15am

re: #198 Birth Control Works

I didn’t realize Russia was such a coal user.

This is interesting.

Coal miners’ strike was one of the things that precipitated the collapse of the Gorbachev government.

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:19:17am

re: #193 Sir John Barron

KAC: OK, let’s just move on….

Good point.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:19:55am

I’m kind of sick and tired of blaming everything on the media. Because of the media, Trump voters knew exactly what they were voting for, but they voted for him anyway. That isn’t the media’s fault. Now, the media is unearthing countless Trump lies and deals. Yet people still complain that the media is failing. The most important journalism is actually being conducted by the “mainest” of the mainstream media: WaPo, WSJ, NYT.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:20:36am

re: #189 darthstar

KAC: Ok, well you call it a lie, but it wasn’t really a lie, just a mistake and how come you don’t talk all about Hillary and Chelsea’s mistakes? OK let’s just move on like the president has advised us…

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Mattand  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:21:19am

re: #195 Dr. Matt

“Both sides do-it” Smerconish took calls for an hour today to let people vent that the Trump-Russian story is BS. The media is failing America.

Fuck Smerconish. They guy tried to position himself as Philly’s homegrown Rush Limbaugh, and then tried to repaint himself as a conservative with a conscience by voting Obama in 2008. He’s since settled into this fucking Magic Balance Act that my “Independent but somehow always votes Republican” buddy loves to death.

And he will forever be, to me at least, the asshole who wrote book in favor of racial profiling at airports.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:21:20am

re: #197 Targetpractice

Let’s check in with the folks at Fox to see how they’re handling this story:

Seriously, this is their only defense at this point: “Junior got tricked, that’s not a crime!”

Hey Brit, if an undercover cop offers sex for cash and I agree, I can’t later argue that my not having sex proves no crime occurred.

RWNJ are always victims never the perp.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:22:06am

re: #202 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I’m kind of sick and tired of blaming everything on the media. Because of the media, Trump voters knew exactly what they were voting for, but they voted for him anyway. That isn’t the media’s fault. Now, the media is unearthing countless Trump lies and deals. Yet people still complain that the media is failing. The most important journalism is actually being conducted by the “mainest” of the mainstream media: WaPo, WSJ, NYT.

And Teen Vogue and Marie Claire.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:22:52am

re: #95 Sir John Barron

This is a nothing-burger, just politics, no big deal.

This was set up by democratic operative we have the proofs!

What about uranium one and Hillary emails and The Tarmac!!!

just about adoption policies.

Not illegal!!!!!

The real issue is Who Leaked This?

Deep State strikes again!

Fake News!!!1

All campaigns meet with foreign agents to smear their opponents.

And let’s not forget the Marion Barry: BITCH SET ME UP!!

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:23:24am

re: #204 Mattand

He once ran with some story that Iraqi secret agents helped Timothy McVeigh bomb OKC. As if some motel clerk could pick a face from a photo lineup and ID him years after the crime.

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Mattand  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:23:42am

re: #197 Targetpractice

Let’s check in with the folks at Fox to see how they’re handling this story:

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Seriously, this is their only defense at this point: “Junior got tricked, that’s not a crime!”

Hey Brit, if an undercover cop offers sex for cash and I agree, I can’t later argue that my not having sex proves no crime occurred.

I forget who posted it (either Daily Beast or Politico) but allegedly White House staff are now referring to Trump Jr. as Fredo Corleone.

That made my weekend.

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:24:41am

re: #202 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I’m kind of sick and tired of blaming everything on the media. Because of the media, Trump voters knew exactly what they were voting for, but they voted for him anyway. That isn’t the media’s fault. Now, the media is unearthing countless Trump lies and deals. Yet people still complain that the media is failing. The most important journalism is actually being conducted by the “mainest” of the mainstream media: WaPo, WSJ, NYT.

Agree. We know who the slimy ones are, most of them on Fox, but we’re hearing about a lot of stuff. It’s really the viewers fault by now for believing the lies.

I think blaming the media is a way of not having to deal with the anger that people would feel otherwise. It allows for inaction.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:24:50am

re: #146 Teukka

Improperly headlined. It should be #FloridaMan strikes again. Or should that be #FloriduhMan strikes again?

Floridashark just sharkin’ along.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:26:27am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:26:49am

re: #204 Mattand

Fuck Smerconish. They guy tried to position himself as Philly’s homegrown Rush Limbaugh, and then tried to repaint himself as a conservative with a conscience by voting Obama in 2008. He’s since settled into this fucking Magic Balance Act that my “Independent but somehow always votes Republican” buddy loves to death.

And he will forever be, to me at least, the asshole who wrote book in favor of racial profiling at airports.

Today he tries too hard to be a centrist nice guy, who sees all sides of an issue.

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Mattand  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:27:47am

re: #208 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

He once ran with some story that Iraqi secret agents helped Timothy McVeigh bomb OKC. As if some motel clerk could pick a face from a photo lineup and ID him years after the crime.

Jesus Christ, that’s combining both Alex Jones and Fox News into some unholy conservative Reese’s Peanut Butter cup of crazy. When did that little bon mot go down?

Side note: speaking of crazy radio hosts, my first introduction to Laura Ingram was seeing her billboard while driving on I-95 through Northeast Philly. I noticed the logo for WPHT 1210 and thought “Well, I wonder how batshit insane this person is.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:28:53am

re: #197 Targetpractice

Let’s check in with the folks at Fox to see how they’re handling this story:

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Seriously, this is their only defense at this point: “Junior got tricked, that’s not a crime!”

Hey Brit, if an undercover cop offers sex for cash and I agree, I can’t later argue that my not having sex proves no crime occurred.

But the very next day, you suddenly have an uncontrollable itch…

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Dr. Matt  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:29:12am

re: #209 Mattand

I forget who posted it (either Daily Beast or Politico) but allegedly White House staff are now referring to Trump Jr. as Fredo Corleone.

That made my weekend.

Fredo sails into sunset sunrise.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:30:20am

re: #202 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I’m kind of sick and tired of blaming everything on the media. Because of the media, Trump voters knew exactly what they were voting for, but they voted for him anyway. That isn’t the media’s fault. Now, the media is unearthing countless Trump lies and deals. Yet people still complain that the media is failing. The most important journalism is actually being conducted by the “mainest” of the mainstream media: WaPo, WSJ, NYT.

Those are, however, the same outlets that made Trump president. The same outlets that refused to talk about Clinton’s accomplishments and made her emails and ‘trust issues’ the story every single day. The same outlets that continued to treat a Trump candidacy as a valid point of view in order to keep people watching and reading. The same outlets that have repeated slavishly everything FOX says, amplifying wingnut dogma into a normal opinion for the body politic, and enabling the modern Republican party to become an all-powerful juggernaut instead of the marginalised crackpot fringe it deserves to be.

The Trump presidency is an artefact of the US media. It is the Achilles heel of democracy. If American democracy fails, it will be because the modern media could not control the worst aspects of demagoguery and its own worst impulses.

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Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:30:47am

One of the things I love about the denial, particular KAC’s, is the idea that the meeting “only” lasting 20 minutes means that nothing illegal happened. To me, it’s the exact opposite: How long does it take to realize you’ve been duped? If somebody asked for a meeting with me, then tempted me with a juicy steak as a way to get me to show up, I wouldn’t sit there for 20 minutes wondering when I was getting the steak.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:31:50am

re: #197 Targetpractice

Let’s check in with the folks at Fox to see how they’re handling this story:

Seriously, this is their only defense at this point: “Junior got tricked, that’s not a crime!”

Hey Brit, if an undercover cop offers sex for cash and I agree, I can’t later argue that my not having sex proves no crime occurred.

The US Government regularly charges and convicts “terrorists” for talking to people they were led to believe were planning “terrorist” actions or were offering them “training opportunities” or explosive (very fake) material.

Federal charges tend to be heavily weighed by “intent”

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Dr. Matt  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:31:55am

re: #214 Mattand

Jesus Christ, that’s combining both Alex Jones and Fox News into some unholy conservative Reese’s Peanut Butter cup of crazy. When did that little bon mot go down?

Side note: speaking of crazy radio hosts, my first introduction to Laura Ingram was seeing her billboard while driving on I-95 through Northeast Philly. I noticed the logo for WPHT 1210 and thought “Well, I how batshit insane this person is.”

My introduction to batshit crazy talkers was Weiner-Savage during the dubyah years. Weiner-Savage turned very anti-dubyah and very anti-mainstream GOP. But, I could not stomach his lunacy for very long.

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:32:24am

re: #183 Targetpractice

What still sticks out for me about this story is that Junior felt it necessary to bring Jared and Manafort to the meeting. I sort of doubt that they just went without a bit of info, and I likewise doubt that they went along with the whole “adoption” bit, so the only other conclusion is he told them that this woman was offering damaging info on Hillary and they followed along. Their silence on the matter is speaking volumes right now.

Remember, Jared and Manafort are already being looked at by investigators. Manafort just had to register he was a foreign agent, which he failed to do, and it is reported he did it now to lessen the problems for him. A month or more back there were reports someone close to the president is being looked at by Mueller. That person was Jared. They are probably listening to their lawyers and laying low.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:32:46am

re: #218 Targetpractice

One of the things I love about the denial, particular KAC’s, is the idea that the meeting “only” lasting 20 minutes means that nothing illegal happened.

Sweet, fancy Moses. Yeah this will hold up in court, KAC. “But, your honor, the meeting only lasted 20 minutes, which as everyone knows is below the meeting time limit required for conviction.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:32:55am

re: #220 Dr. Matt

My introduction to batshit crazy talkers was Weiner-Savage during the dubyah years. Weiner-Savage turned very anti-dubyah and very anti-mainstream GOP. But, I could not stomach his lunacy for very long.

Wasn’t Alex J also more of a left-wing conspiracy monger before he found his true calling?

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Birth Control Works  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:34:06am

re: #197 Targetpractice

Let’s check in with the folks at Fox to see how they’re handling this story:

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Seriously, this is their only defense at this point: “Junior got tricked, that’s not a crime!”

Hey Brit, if an undercover cop offers sex for cash and I agree, I can’t later argue that my not having sex proves no crime occurred.

Stupid enough to be tricked — but not a crime.

hmmmm , … .

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:34:24am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He’s an opportunist. 9/11 is when he really started to make headway. It wouldn’t have mattered who was President or which party was in control.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:35:45am

re: #225 GlutenFreeJesus

He’s an opportunist. 9/11 is when he really started to make headway. It wouldn’t have mattered who was President or which party was in control.

Remember that Glenn Beck started as a morning shock jock. Basically, he understood what it took to capture and hold people’s attention and just changed his approach to achieving that end.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:36:47am

re: #217 Renaissance_Man

Those are, however, the same outlets that made Trump president. The same outlets that refused to talk about Clinton’s accomplishments and made her emails and ‘trust issues’ the story every single day. The same outlets that continued to treat a Trump candidacy as a valid point of view in order to keep people watching and reading. The same outlets that have repeated slavishly everything FOX says, amplifying wingnut dogma into a normal opinion for the body politic, and enabling the modern Republican party to become an all-powerful juggernaut instead of the marginalised crackpot fringe it deserves to be.

BING-FUCKING-O. The so-called librul media failed us and is still failing us. Trump was given unprecedented free coverage by the failed media and they spent the entire campaign trying to balance out Trump’s lunacy with “But, Clinton is so unpopular” meme. If anyone is giving the failing media a pass, enjoy your fucking ignorance bliss. If the failed media didn’t fail America, Trump should not be in the White House today. He should have been universally mocked, humiliated, and criticized for his abhorrent behavior.

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Mattand  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:37:40am

re: #213 Dr. Matt

Today he tries too hard to be a centrist nice guy, who sees all sides of an issue.

I’m trying not to constantly beat this into the ground (probably too late). but that’s why my friend loves him. This guy was a party animal in his late teens who latched on to Limbaugh (first for the insults, then for the actual content) and then promptly listened to him for the next 30 years.

I think he got an inkling of how fucked up the GOP was becoming in 2008 through Smerconish and then went on to embrace that odious “All politicians are equally bad” bullshit.

All the while, though, he would lose his shit anytime I criticized the GOP. That’s where my reflexive disgust towards people who claim they’re “independent” comes from: sample size of one, but everyone I encounter has been or still is GOP. The Bernie Bros have definitely made rethink that stance, though.

Regarding my buddy, though, one thing struck me last year: he now has kids that are in their late teens/early twenties, which is when he started listening to Limbaugh. I just cannot even wrap my head around about being that young and listening to that garbage. I think his middle daughter is starting to lean that way as well; she criticized her older sister for writing a blog that contained “femi-Nazi” junk.

God, to be that young and a woman and talking like a vicious sixty-plus year old male conservative radio jock? Everyone’s allowed to find their own voice, I guess, but damn.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:38:08am
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wheat-dogg  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:38:27am

OT, but my son, stepson and two buddies are camping in Grand Teton National Park as we speak. Here is a scene near their campsite. Note the white stuff on the ground.

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They’re on a two-week motorcycle tour of three national parks in the US and Canada.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:39:05am

re: #225 GlutenFreeJesus

He’s an opportunist. 9/11 is when he really started to make headway. It wouldn’t have mattered who was President or which party was in control.

A lot of talkers become 9/11 opportunists. Becoming a “patriotic” conservative was easy money following 9/11 and the subsequent rise of Fox and am hate radio.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:41:46am

re: #228 Mattand

Regarding my buddy, though, one thing struck me last year: he now has kids that are in their late teens/early twenties, which is when he started listening to Limbaugh. I just cannot even wrap my head around about being that young and listening to that garbage. I think his middle daughter is starting to lean that way as well; she criticized her older sister for writing a blog that contained “femi-Nazi” junk.

I have a cousin that is very “Christian” conservative and raised 4 children on Limbaugh. They would do a lot of family trips for vacation, sports, field trips, etc and he would brag how the entire family would listen to Limbaugh on the trip. The hypocrisy is maddening.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:43:56am

re: #233 Dr. Matt

I have a cousin that is very “Christian” conservative and raised 4 children on Limbaugh. They would do a lot of family trips for vacation, sports, field trips, etc and he would brag how the entire family would listen to Limbaugh on the trip. The hypocrisy is maddening.

My dad raised me on Rambling with Gambling and Jean Shepherd (WOR-710 NY). That predates the AM radio right-wing media circus.

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Mattand  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:45:34am

re: #233 Dr. Matt

I have a cousin that is very “Christian” conservative and raised 4 children on Limbaugh. They would do a lot of family trips for vacation, sports, field trips, etc and he would brag how the entire family would listen to Limbaugh on the trip. The hypocrisy is maddening.

Damn. That is some straight-up, uncut indoctrination right there.

A lot of my cousins are union people who vote Republican, aka “Let me support the guy who wants to ruin my quality of life by destroying unions, because I like his racial dog whistling.”

Seems to be a theme around here, LOL.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:45:57am

So I see the word Treason is getting a lot of play today…

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(Bert the Turtle)  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:46:06am

re: #230 wheat-dogg

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:47:21am

re: #197 Targetpractice

Let’s check in with the folks at Fox to see how they’re handling this story:

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Seriously, this is their only defense at this point: “Junior got tricked, that’s not a crime!”

Hey Brit, if an undercover cop offers sex for cash and I agree, I can’t later argue that my not having sex proves no crime occurred.

Remember how people were already saying Donny Jr. was presidential material and may keep a Trump dynasty going after Donny Sr. is out of office in 8 years.

Now he is stupid and falls for Russian tricks.

Uh huh, sure. No way Donny Jr. didn’t know what he was doing. Just more excuses for Republicans.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:48:33am
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wheat-dogg  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:50:40am

re: #237 (Bert the Turtle)

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Jenner7  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:50:56am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:51:15am

re: #232 Birth Control Works

This Arkansas Bill Would Force Rape Survivors to Notify Their Attacker if They Need an Abortion

Shameless Pages Promotion

Will it also guarantee the rapists parental rights?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:51:31am
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Mattand  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:52:09am

re: #238 ObserverArt

Remember how people were already saying Donny Jr. was presidential material and may keep a Trump dynasty going after Donny Sr. is out of office in 8 years.

Now he is stupid and falls for Russian tricks.

Uh huh, sure. No way Donny Jr. didn’t know what he was doing. Just more excuses for Republicans.

I get worried about Ivanka. I honestly think there’s a plan to groom her to be next in line. Shit like having her sit at the G20 is perfect theater for the mouth breathers who voted Trump: “Oh, look how presidential she appears!” Plus, she doesn’t come off like a dumb shit the way her brothers do.

Jesus, I try not to be defeatist, but I sometimes look at this garbage and can’t help but wonder if we’re seeing a ruling family junta being formed in real time.

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:53:37am

re: #202 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I’m kind of sick and tired of blaming everything on the media. Because of the media, Trump voters knew exactly what they were voting for, but they voted for him anyway. That isn’t the media’s fault. Now, the media is unearthing countless Trump lies and deals. Yet people still complain that the media is failing. The most important journalism is actually being conducted by the “mainest” of the mainstream media: WaPo, WSJ, NYT.

You have a key word in your comment you use but I don’t think you understand how you use it.

Now.

A lot of the bitching about the media is due to them not doing enough to educate and warn the America people about the real Donny Trump prior to the elections. All of what he is now is what he has been all along.

Maybe if the media would have been tougher it would have assisted the Republicans to fight him off in the primaries.

Maybe if they did their job you wouldn’t have had to call for Democrats to register as Republicans to stop him. : )

Where were they then?

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Teukka  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:55:52am

re: #241 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

Albeit I am skeptical of teh Intercept, I would not be that surprised if this is a legit scoop.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:57:23am

re: #217 Renaissance_Man

Those are, however, the same outlets that made Trump president. The same outlets that refused to talk about Clinton’s accomplishments and made her emails and ‘trust issues’ the story every single day. The same outlets that continued to treat a Trump candidacy as a valid point of view in order to keep people watching and reading. The same outlets that have repeated slavishly everything FOX says, amplifying wingnut dogma into a normal opinion for the body politic, and enabling the modern Republican party to become an all-powerful juggernaut instead of the marginalised crackpot fringe it deserves to be.

The Trump presidency is an artefact of the US media. It is the Achilles heel of democracy. If American democracy fails, it will be because the modern media could not control the worst aspects of demagoguery and its own worst impulses.

As I’ve pointed out here in the past, there is just as much money to be made in building up a president as there is in tearing one down for the media. All the media cares about is selling advertising.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:58:02am

re: #247 Anymouse 🌹

As I’ve pointed out here in the past, there is just as much money to be made in building up a president as there is in tearing one down for the media. All the media cares about is selling advertising.

QFT

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Birth Control Works  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:59:15am

We are having a fun weather day in East Iowa.

I had to turn a light on because it got so dark outside.

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Interesting Times  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:00:02am

re: #247 Anymouse 🌹

As I’ve pointed out here in the past, there is just as much money to be made in building up a president as there is in tearing one down for the media. All the media cares about is selling advertising.

On that note, have you noticed how many of the 6:30 evening newscasts have advertising segments sponsored by the American Petroleum Institute? No wonder serious coverage of climate change and its effects = zero :(

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:00:39am

re: #231 Dr. Matt

A lot of talkers become 9/11 opportunists. Becoming a “patriotic” conservative was easy money following 9/11 and the subsequent rise of Fox and am hate radio.

They are all just disc jocks and spinning the hits. There might even be payola involved.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:02:34am

re: #186 FormerDirtDart

It is quite astonishing what Americans will memorialize these days

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He’s Canadian.

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Jenner7  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:03:01am

re: #246 Teukka

Ryan Grim has a good reputation, I believe.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:05:24am
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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:05:34am

re: #247 Anymouse 🌹

As I’ve pointed out here in the past, there is just as much money to be made in building up a president as there is in tearing one down for the media. All the media cares about is selling advertising.

As many have pointed out here in the past!

Don’t bogart that joint my friend…

: )

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Birth Control Works  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:06:25am

re: #254 Birth Control Works

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I thought about putting “in Washington D.C.” on the sign, but decided against it.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:06:52am

re: #228 Mattand

I’d tell the young lady, “Have fun working for three quarters the pay that men receive for the same job.”

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Birth Control Works  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:07:48am

re: #257 Romantic Heretic

I’d tell the young lady, “Have fun working for three quarters the pay that men receive for the same job.”

She probably thinks that is all she is worth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:08:07am

re: #247 Anymouse 🌹

As I’ve pointed out here in the past, there is just as much money to be made in building up a president as there is in tearing one down for the media. All the media cares about is selling advertising.

I kept thinking that they were going to start to turn on him, but face it, he is still regarded as a media star, and one of their own, even more so than he is or ever was a Republican.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:09:59am

re: #243 FormerDirtDart

Translation: We barbarians masquerading as conservatives like living in our fact free bubble and you can’t make us leave it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:12:39am

re: #232 Birth Control Works

This Arkansas Bill Would Force Rape Survivors to Notify Their Attacker if They Need an Abortion

Shameless Pages Promotion

Dayum. I thought someone had to get an empathectomy to become a conservative, but this is just downright cruel.

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BeachDem  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:13:07am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When “Trending on Twitter” became a regular news item, I knew that the end of Western Civilization as we know it was at hand…

And the hand became a fist when “Candy Crush” became a TV show (with reality “star” contestants) and there’s now an Emoji movie.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:15:23am

re: #262 BeachDem

And the hand became a fist when “Candy Crush” became a TV show (with reality “star” contestants) and there’s now an Emoji movie.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:15:51am

re: #255 ObserverArt

As many have pointed out here in the past!

Don’t bogart that joint my friend…

: )

LOL, I would have to go to Colorado first.

(thinks about calling Smart dealer for service appointment… . your car was just serviced sir … well, you know, can’t be too careful)

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BeachDem  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:18:18am

re: #153 Sir John Barron

I was expecting juicy shit about Hillary but it was a bunch of crap about adoptions and sanctions. But not collusion although collusion is OK.

Sorry if repeat (I’m behind) but HuffPo headline rules again:

SCION’S FICTION

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:21:20am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

[Embedded content]

Well, the film went into production in 2016, but for now the company is keeping the story under wraps.

efofilms.com

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Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:22:00am

And here we go

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Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:22:48am

woops, here’s the connection

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:23:49am

re: #262 BeachDem

And the hand became a fist when “Candy Crush” became a TV show (with reality “star” contestants) and there’s now an Emoji movie.

We’re screwed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:24:00am

re: #268 Stanley Sea

woops, here’s the connection

Let the pile-on begin!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:25:19am

Well, I have to get the water sample from the water tower out of my refrigerator I took last night and get it to the lab in Scottsbluff. (I also had to express mail another set of samples this morning to the state lab in Lincoln.)

This is sort of like having a job, except free of the slavery of wages part.

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Mattand  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:27:08am

re: #258 Birth Control Works

She probably thinks that is all she is worth.

No, this one is particularly head-strong. That’s not the issue. I get worried that listening to her dad rail at liberals for her whole life has already laid down some foundations that are going to be hard to undo.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:27:44am

re: #272 Mattand

No, this one is particularly head-strong. That’s not the issue. I get worried that listening to her dad rail at liberals for her whole life has already laid down some foundations that are going to be hard to undo.

My Dad knew enough to keep his own counsel around me.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:28:11am

bbl

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BeachDem  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:29:54am

re: #218 Targetpractice

One of the things I love about the denial, particular KAC’s, is the idea that the meeting “only” lasting 20 minutes means that nothing illegal happened. To me, it’s the exact opposite: How long does it take to realize you’ve been duped? If somebody asked for a meeting with me, then tempted me with a juicy steak as a way to get me to show up, I wouldn’t sit there for 20 minutes wondering when I was getting the steak.

Yep—reminds me of getting suckered into Amway cult presentations.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:33:27am

Last night I was chatting with the person who lives next to the water tower while I was taking a sample, and mentioned that moving to Saskatchewan is definitely on the table if I ever won the lotto.

I got back the “I wouldn’t want to live in Canada because they ration their health care” talking point.

Without bashing Republicans or FOX specifically, I noted that “You know, that’s just a political talking point. I go to Canada all the time and never ran into that.”

She thought about that and asked why someone would lie about it. I just pointed out “to get elected” and got on with the job of a water sample.

(Did I plant a seed there? We’ll have to see… .)

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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:36:39am

re: #268 Stanley Sea

woops, here’s the connection

FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS Hi did you get the email I forwarded about Hillary selling baby parts?

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BeachDem  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:37:28am

re: #244 Mattand

I get worried about Ivanka. I honestly think there’s a plan to groom her to be next in line. Shit like having her sit at the G20 is perfect theater for the mouth breathers who voted Trump: “Oh, look how presidential she appears!” Plus, she doesn’t come off like a dumb shit the way her brothers do.

Jesus, I try not to be defeatist, but I sometimes look at this garbage and can’t help but wonder if we’re seeing a ruling family junta being formed in real time.

Don’t forget this little bit of theater:

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:42:40am

Your daily cute break…

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:43:38am

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

So last night I watched “Get Out” Jordan Peele’s horror movie, or as I call it, “The Stepford Negroes”

Haven’t seen it yet. All my friends have raved about it so looking forward to renting it.

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Lupin  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:45:15am

While there are many scapegoats who sure didn’t help, Russians, media, Berniebros, etc, etc. the reason Trump is in power today is the same reason Reagan came to power, but worse: an uneducated, gullible, bigoted, xenophobic electorate that has reached the critical n33.33% mass..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:47:55am

re: #281 Lupin

While there are many scapegoats who sure didn’t help, Russians, media, Berniebros, etc, etc. the reason Trump is in power today is the same reason Reagan came to power, but worse: an uneducated, gullible, bigoted, xenophobic electorate that has reached the critical n33.33% mass..

We have all but stopped teaching basics like the civics, the Scientific Method or the Historical Method, English teaching is more about achieving sixth-grade literacy for High School grads than about critical interpretation, and DT is basically the fruits of this enormous gap in our national level of education.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:48:37am

re: #276 Anymouse 🌹

Good job pushing back on a blatant lie. As someone who grew up in Canada and still has family and friends there. Trust me when I say that none of us have had major problems with Canada’s healthcare system. Of course, there is always room for improvement but it certainly covers our needs without bankrupting us, which cannot be said for too many Americans.

I don’t know where this rationing lie comes from.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:48:39am

re: #280 Patricia Kayden

Haven’t seen it yet. All my friends have raved about it so looking forward to renting it.

I had heard in reviews that it is a horror/comedy, but I only laughed once or twice. I quickly began to feel the chilling vibes—it got scary before the actual “horror” started to take place.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:49:19am

re: #283 Patricia Kayden

I don’t know where this rationing lie comes from.

The same people who gave us Death Panels.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:56:02am
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makeitstop  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:59:00am

re: #145 Decatur Deb

That’s not an upside scenario if the people kneecapping Trump are the Pence faction of the mainstream GOP. Dumping Trump for Pence is a credible Plan B for this whole exercise. It will be obvious when the establishment Repubs start scrapping off the MAGA crap.

Could be Pence. But I’m getting the feel that he’s a True Believer and is fully behind his boss. I could be wrong.

I think the intel community has a mole in the White House and whoever it is, it’s someone that no one would suspect them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:59:57am

re: #287 makeitstop

Could be Pence. But I’m getting the feel that he’s a True Believer and is fully behind his boss. I could be wrong.

I think the intel community has a mole in the White House and whoever it is, it’s someone that no one would suspect them.

It’s Barron! He is an expert in The Cyber.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:00:25am

re: #285 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The same people who gave us Death Panels.

Who now support Trump Care which will result in millions being kicked off Medicaid and thus to deaths of uninsured. How ironic.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:01:53am

re: #284 Barefoot Grin

I had heard in reviews that it is a horror/comedy, but I only laughed once or twice. I quickly began to feel the chilling vibes—it got scary before the actual “horror” started to take place.

I didn’t want to see it in a theater because of the horror part. If it’s too scary, I’ll just turn it off. Yes, I’m a chicken.

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gocart mozart  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:02:33am
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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:02:49am

re: #285 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The same people who gave us Death Panels.

Scary healthcare stories go way back. I remember hearing about managed and socilaized healthcare back in the early 80s. It really got rolling with Hillary Care in the early 90s. I think the insurance companies and their politicians tried to portray all of it as standing in line outside run-down and dirty clinics with Doctors that were the worst ever treating you.

Possibly they were watching all the European countries and Canada go with it and they knew it wouldn’t be long before Americans wanted it too so start the scare tactics and build on them before the debates.

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gocart mozart  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:03:04am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:04:22am

re: #290 Patricia Kayden

I didn’t want to see it in a theater because of the horror part. If it’s too scary, I’ll just turn it off. Yes, I’m a chicken.

It’s all psychological horror. There’s no gruesome slasher stuff.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:05:07am

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gocart mozart  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:07:26am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:07:36am

re: #290 Patricia Kayden

I didn’t want to see it in a theater because of the horror part. If it’s too scary, I’ll just turn it off. Yes, I’m a chicken.

As a white man I thought it was really effective in giving the sense of a kind of “psychological (and real) imprisonment” of being black in a white world. Not going to claim I could ever truly understand, but, well…see it. I’m curious what you’ll think.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:09:00am

re: #296 gocart mozart

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No, Wilson tweeted “the orcas control the means of production.” He was talking about the killer whales that are ganging up on fishermen near Alaska.

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Jay C  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:13:42am

re: #292 ObserverArt

Scary healthcare stories go way back. I remember hearing about managed and socilaized healthcare back in the early 80s. It really got rolling with Hillary Care in the early 90s. I think the insurance companies and their politicians tried to portray all of it as standing in line outside run-down and dirty clinics with Doctors that were the worst ever treating you.

Possibly they were watching all the European countries and Canada go with it and they knew it wouldn’t be long before Americans wanted it too so start the scare tactics and build on them before the debates.

Well before that: I recall (very) avant la lettre satires dating back to the ’70s - usually National Lampoon stuff, IIRC - that would paint “socialized medicine” in the absolute-worst terms: i.e. Bulgaria 1955 - and contrast their straw hellholes with the wonderful state of healthcare in the US: “modern”, advanced, much more efficient (i.e. way fewer patients croaked though sepsis) - and above all: relatively cheap.
Unfortunately, those stereotypes still linger (even if the “cheap” part tends to get glossed over)…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:18:37am

Our new partners in building an impenetrable cybersecurity unit!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:19:24am

re: #299 Jay C

Well before that: I recall (very) avant la lettre satires dating back to the ’70s - usually National Lampoon stuff, IIRC - that would paint “socialized medicine” in the absolute-worst terms: i.e. Bulgaria 1955 - and contrast their straw hellholes with the wonderful state of healthcare in the US: “modern”, advanced, much more efficient (i.e. way fewer patients croaked though sepsis) - and above all: relatively cheap.
Unfortunately, those stereotypes still linger (even if the “cheap” part tends to get glossed over)…

IN GREAT GRAMPAW’S DAY PEOPLE USED TO PAY THERE TOWN DOCKTER WITH A CHICKEN OR A BUSHEL OF APPLES WHEN HE MADE A HOUSE CALL IN HIS OLD FLIVVER!!!!!!!

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:20:29am

re: #209 Mattand

I forget who posted it (either Daily Beast or Politico) but allegedly White House staff are now referring to Trump Jr. as Fredo Corleone.

That made my weekend.

thedailybeast.com

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:21:00am

re: #300 Big Beautiful Door

Our new partners in building an impenetrable cybersecurity unit!

In a way that was actually a major plot point

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:25:11am

re: #209 Mattand

What’s even funnier is that Fredo’s wife was way hotter than Junior’s.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:26:09am

re: #303 FormerDirtDart

In a way that was actually a major plot point

Significant point for none BSG fans. For fans of The Americans, here are some other new cybersecurity team members.

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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:30:59am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:33:19am

re: #306 jaunte

That was Rinse’s word yesterday. Keep digging guys. Please proceed…..

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:38:28am

Breaking:
It has been learned that during his private meeting with Putin, Pres* Trump suggested this as the centerpiece for the tentative logo of the RU/US Combined Cyber Security Task Force :

//

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piratedan  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:40:32am

re: #308 FormerDirtDart

wrong finger being used…

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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:41:46am
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makeitstop  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:43:00am

Another really good thread from Garland.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:45:00am

re: #244 Mattand

“I honestly think there’s a plan to groom her to be next in line.”

Next in line to what? I’m hoping that the American people aren’t so deranged that they would actually elect Ivanka Trump

(But they elected her equally unqualified, awful father so …).

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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:49:00am

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