The Bombshells Continue to Drop: Trump Jr. Was Told the Russian Government Wanted to Aid Trump’s Candidacy

Trump Jr. knew the Russian government was behind this
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Now we know why Donald Trump Jr. lawyered up today. The New York Times is apparently following the Breitbart method of releasing progressive bombshell stories that build on the previous bombshells — except that unlike Breitbart, these bombshells are the real deal: Russian Government Sought to Aid Trump’s Candidacy, According to Email.

WASHINGTON — Before arranging a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.

The email to the younger Mr. Trump was sent by Rob Goldstone, a publicist and former British tabloid reporter who helped broker the June 2016 meeting. In a statement on Sunday, Mr. Trump acknowledged that he was interested in receiving damaging information about Mrs. Clinton, but gave no indication that he thought the lawyer might have been a Kremlin proxy.

Mr. Goldstone’s message, as described to The New York Times by the three people, indicates that the Russian government was the source of the potentially damaging information.

Does anyone really believe Trump Jr. didn’t tell his father about this meeting, that was supposedly going to help his campaign?

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:20:36pm

I can’t see them leaving dear old dad out of the loop on this one.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:22:09pm

Watching Rachel now. My wife asked me what will happen. I said “he’ll go through a rough patch but won’t see prison; his father will pardon him.”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:22:11pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:22:11pm

The number of times that the Times and the WashPo report these things from multiple sources is astonishing. It’s like a goddam knife fight in this Administration.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:23:45pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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No, but if he DIDN’T tell him, it was to provide plausible deniability, and that means he knows it was bad.

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:24:34pm

re: #1 b.d.

I can’t see them leaving dear old dad out of the loop on this one.

I can see them leaving Don Jr. wrapped in a carpet over this one.

I have been wondering if one of the kids would be exposed to have been a careless player…I had thought it would be Jared because of his hubris and his special relationship (I think Trump sees him as the ‘smart son’ he never had)…But Don Jr…I imagined him as just the jocko bully at boarding school who was happy so long as he got to have his annual safaris…Maybe he was trying to show dad he could be of use.

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:25:38pm

Damn, I should have specified to that genie which Donald Trump I wish go to jail…

There’s always a catch….always a catch….

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:25:44pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:26:08pm

what more do they need to release at this point?

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451_Montag  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:26:15pm

Apparently an email chain. Interesting to find out who else was in it.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:26:48pm
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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:27:47pm

re: #10 451_Montag

Apparently an email chain. Interesting to find out who else was in it.

Oh the irony if emails are the key to taking down Donnie.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:27:54pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:28:09pm
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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:29:09pm

re: #9 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

what more do they need to release at this point?

Be nice if they could get a pic of Mike Pence having lunch alone with the Russian Lawyer woman.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:30:34pm

re: #15 darthstar

Be nice if they could get a pic of Mike Pence having lunch alone with the Russian Lawyer woman.

Especially if she looks like Anna Chapman.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:31:47pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:31:54pm

You know, at this point Don Jr. looks so stupid that you have to wonder how much stupider Eric has to be to be treated as the stupid son.

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:33:13pm

re: #16 Blind Frog Belly White

Especially if she looks like Anna Chapman.

She could look like Sarah Huckabee for all I care. I want to make sure Pence doesn’t take over after Trump resigns to avoid impeachment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:35:05pm

re: #19 darthstar

She could look like Sarah Huckabee for all I care. I want to make sure Pence doesn’t take over after Trump resigns to avoid impeachment.

Then we get Paul Ryan. Then Hatch.

It’s turtles assholes all the way down.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:35:28pm

re: #18 Blind Frog Belly White

You know, at this point Don Jr. looks so stupid that you have to wonder how much stupider Eric has to be to be treated as the stupid son.

Eric looks like Einstein now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:36:23pm
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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:36:25pm
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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:36:26pm

re: #16 Blind Frog Belly White

Especially if she looks like Anna Chapman.

Had to look her up…Washington Times has a headline that she tried to seduce Edward Snowden…tried? Shit, that guy’s been living under Putin’s shadow so long now he’s seduced by a bar of soap.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:37:48pm

re: #24 darthstar

Had to look her up…Washington Times has a headline that she tried to seduce Edward Snowden…tried? Shit, that guy’s been living under Putin’s shadow so long now he’s seduced by a bar of soap.

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“Beautiful Russian Women Seek Friendship, Marriage Top Secret Documents”

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:37:51pm

re: #24 darthstar

Had to look her up…Washington Times has a headline that she tried to seduce Edward Snowden…tried? Shit, that guy’s been living under Putin’s shadow so long now he’s seduced by a bar of soap.

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The only way to seduce Snowden is to bring a mirror.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:38:31pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:38:38pm

re: #26 b.d.

The only way to seduce Snowden is to bring a mirror.

Or a pic of Julian Assange.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:38:55pm
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Kragar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:39:00pm

re: #8 darthstar

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:40:38pm

Are “the three people” the same three people in the White House from yesterday’s story?

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:41:08pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:41:17pm

re: #24 darthstar

She looks like the Russian that Tony Soprano was…”dating.”

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:41:26pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:41:55pm

re: #31 Ace Rothstein

Are “the three people” the same three people in the White House from yesterday’s story?

2 people + Goldstone = the 3.

(Just heard Maggie on CNN)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:42:02pm
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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:42:35pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:42:36pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

If that doesn’t link to something about Hillary I’ll be disappointed.

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Mattand  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:43:14pm

re: #31 Ace Rothstein

Are “the three people” the same three people in the White House from yesterday’s story?

I’m paraphrasing Josh Marshall of TPM, and probably our gracious host here as well, but these leaks are really starting to look like people trying to minimize treason charges against them by tossing Fredo under the bus.

I’m beginning to think now that one of the body hurlers is Pence.

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:43:45pm

re: #38 darthstar

If that doesn’t link to something about Hillary I’ll be disappointed.

I’ll be damned…it links to the other gray lady…

nytimes.com

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:44:14pm

re: #39 Mattand

I’m paraphrasing Josh Marshall of TPM, and probably our gracious host here as well, but these leaks are really starting to look like people trying to minimize treason charges against them by tossing Fredo under the bus.

I’m beginning to think now that one of the body hurlers is Pence.

You mean into the boat?

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Mattand  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:44:37pm

re: #36 Blind Frog Belly White

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Remember this tweet the next time someone tries to convince you that David From is a moderate Republican who is horrified at what his beloved GOP has become.

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:44:38pm

re: #39 Mattand

I’m beginning to think now that one of the body hurlers is Pence

And Bannon…..especially with the latest Drudge headline….

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:44:51pm

Okay, disappointed was the wrong word…should have said ‘shocked’…my brother reads Drudge…religiously. (he’s a political retard) - He’ll click that link and hate it. Good. Fuck him for being stupid.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:45:00pm

re: #24 darthstar

Had to look her up…Washington Times has a headline that she tried to seduce Edward Snowden…tried? Shit, that guy’s been living under Putin’s shadow so long now he’s seduced by a bar of soap.

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She has a zit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:45:23pm

You know, I get the feeling that after last week’s tongue bath from Trump, Putin will be perfectly happy to watch the whole Trump Administration implode, give how much damage he’s already inflicted on us. The impeachment will tear the US apart, which is more than he could have hoped for. We may be mad at Russia afterwards, but it’s hard to imagine us getting unified over anything.

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Mattand  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:45:39pm

re: #41 Ace Rothstein

You mean into the boat?

I’m going to wake up with a horse’s head in my bed tomorrow morning for messing that up, aren’t I?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:45:42pm

re: #39 Mattand

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:45:45pm

When you’ve lost Drudge, you’ve lost Wingnutville.

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:46:20pm

re: #45 Barefoot Grin

She has a zit.

That’s the only thing on her chest that’s real.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:46:56pm

re: #42 Mattand

Remember this tweet the next time someone tries to convince you that David From is a moderate Republican who is horrified at what his beloved GOP has become.

Given the rest of his twitter feed, I’m pretty much certain he’s ridiculing the idea that it’s a Nothingburger.

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Mattand  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:47:09pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea

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I hope that motherfucker Kushner sees the inside of a Club Fed like his father.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:49:04pm
“He said, ‘I’m told she has information about illegal campaign contributions to the D.N.C.,’” Mr. Goldstone recalled, referring to the Democratic National Committee. He said he then emailed Donald Jr., outlining what the lawyer purported to have.

That’s not what Fredo said in his statement last night. He said he had no idea why the lawyer was even there.

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MsJ  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:49:58pm

re: #49 b.d.

When you’ve lost Drudge, you’ve lost Wingnutville.

Did he? What does the article say? I’m expecting it’s about Clinton and the Russians since that seems to be the hill they want to die on.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:50:08pm

re: #42 Mattand

Isn’t Frum Canadian?

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:50:25pm

He’s more of a fringe kid…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:51:10pm

societyofrock.com

Frampton plays Chris Cornell.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:51:19pm

re: #56 darthstar

He’s more of a fringe kid…

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:52:18pm

re: #54 MsJ

Did he? What does the article say? I’m expecting it’s about Clinton and the Russians since that seems to be the hill they want to die on.

It links directly to the NYT article titled:

Trump Jr. Was Told in Email of Russian Effort to Aid Campaign

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:52:34pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

No shit! That’s…something else.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:52:37pm
The president was aggravated by the news of the meeting, according to one person close to him — less over the fact that it had happened, and more because it was yet another story about Russia that had swamped the media cycle.

That’s breathtaking.

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:52:42pm

re: #42 Mattand

Remember this tweet the next time someone tries to convince you that David From is a moderate Republican who is horrified at what his beloved GOP has become.

I think he’s about as concerned about the GOP anymore as Charles is. That doesn’t mean he isn’t a conservative with whom I disagree on many levels…

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:53:26pm
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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:53:28pm

re: #61 Ace Rothstein

That’s breathtaking.

A few good tweets will fix it right up.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:53:33pm

re: #61 Ace Rothstein

That’s breathtaking.

And yet, not surprising.

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:53:39pm

re: #49 b.d.

When you’ve lost Drudge, you’ve lost Wingnutville.

That link goes to the New York Times. Holy shitballs!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:54:09pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:55:06pm
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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:55:18pm

re: #65 Blind Frog Belly White

And yet, not surprising.

All he cares about is his like count.

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MsJ  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:55:44pm

re: #59 b.d.

It links directly to the NYT article titled:

Trump Jr. Was Told in Email of Russian Effort to Aid Campaign

Well. Lost Drudge then. Wow. I’m truly shocked.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:56:05pm

Reading Ian Kershaw’s book “Fateful Choices”, and came across this passage (pg 80):

“He recognized, cynically, that squaring the circle of the competing interests would only be possible through ‘grandiose fraud’. This would prove even beyond Hitler.”

Reminded me of that the GOP leadership is trying to do on health care.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:56:23pm

Bingo

Plus nepotism

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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:56:48pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:57:15pm

re: #70 MsJ

Well. Lost Drudge then. Wow. I’m truly shocked.

Somewhere, right now, Sean Hannity is trying to figure out how to spin THIS as perfectly okay.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:57:27pm

Alright, Washington Post. You got next.

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:58:21pm

re: #74 Blind Frog Belly White

Somewhere, right now, Sean Hannity is trying to figure out how to spin THIS as perfectly okay.

I can’t even begin to imagine how many people in the White House and in the Wingnut orbit are trying to get Drudge to answer his phone right now.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:58:22pm

re: #72 Stanley Sea

What would Fredo resign from? He’s not a part of the White House.

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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:58:24pm
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Kragar  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:58:59pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:59:12pm

re: #77 Ace Rothstein

What would Fredo resign from? He’s not a part of the White House.

Yeah…that’s in error.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 10, 2017 • 6:59:59pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:00:11pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:00:19pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:00:56pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

I’m gonna read the comments to that Drudge tweet.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:01:24pm

re: #79 Kragar

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But now who’ll solve the Middle Eastern Opioid Crisis by Reinventing Government with Veterans?*

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:01:44pm

re: #84 Ace Rothstein

I’m gonna read the comments to that Drudge tweet.

Don’t forget your isolation suit.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:01:54pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:02:00pm

re: #84 Ace Rothstein

I’m gonna read the comments to that Drudge tweet.

With your shield or on it, soldier.

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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:02:56pm

re: #84 Ace Rothstein

I’m gonna read the comments to that Drudge tweet.

They’re still repeating “fake news” “unidentified sources” “yawn.”

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majii  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:03:07pm

re: #52 Mattand

“I hope that motherfucker Kushner sees the inside of a Club Fed like his father.”

If this happens, I’m wondering whether Ivanka will in fly to see him on the weekends the way he flew to Alabama to see his dad.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:03:47pm

re: #87 FormerDirtDart

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:03:47pm

re: #84 Ace Rothstein

I’m gonna read the comments to that Drudge tweet.

It’s boring. Nothing but FAKE NEWS, not an original thought to be found.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:04:42pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:05:26pm
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MsJ  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:06:19pm

re: #84 Ace Rothstein

I’m gonna read the comments to that Drudge tweet.

Unhappy Drudgesters.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:06:35pm

I walk away for a few hours, and what happens? More wild crazy stuff from the Trump Clown Car.

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:07:03pm
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The curator of this parody is sneaky, likes to delete tweets. Not here bro, bwahahaha!

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stpaulbear  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:07:08pm

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

Frankly My Dear 🐁 @goddamnedfrank
Somewhere, deep within her shadowy lair, Tiffany allows herself a rare wry smile and then returns her full attention to the chessboard.

And Barron is asking to go away to summer school.

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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:07:43pm

re: #95 Ace Rothstein

Remind him:

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:07:55pm

re: #97 wheat-dogg

I walk away for a few hours, and what happens? More wild crazy stuff from the Trump Clown Car.

Giphy

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piratedan  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:08:20pm

i keep thinking back to the campaign…

We’re only going to use the best people….

and he’s absolutely right, he’s ended up with the best team of political subversives that Putin’s money could buy.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:08:27pm

re: #96 MsJ

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:08:36pm
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majii  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:08:42pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

“It’s boring. Nothing but FAKE NEWS, not an original thought to be found.”

A member of Trump & Co. could have a knife stuck in these suckers’ backs up to the hilt, and they’d still be screaming “Fake News!!” as they sunk slowly to the floor and died. They’re pitiful, true-believers. Sad to witness.

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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:08:44pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:09:30pm

Emails…

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:10:28pm
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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:10:53pm

Ha….I bet they got another the other day too….

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:13:46pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:15:33pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:16:17pm
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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:19:50pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:21:59pm

re: #112 FormerDirtDart

I’m pretty sure that violate an arrangement between China and the USA, at least.

I can tell you from personal experience that re-applying for a work visa each year in China is a royal PITA. It’s like you’re constantly on probation. Students don’t want to go through that kind of BS. An undergraduate expects a visa to last four years, a master’s candidate two years, and a PhD at least two years. It’s like the administration wants to send all the bright students to Canada and the UK.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:23:25pm
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Kragar  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:24:07pm
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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:24:59pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:25:42pm

I go back to the story about the sr. yam slapping jr. because he was wearing a Yankees jersey to a Yankees game.

& how he really didn’t divest from his business to “let his sons run it”

They probably have to get approval for every single breath they take.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:25:53pm
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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:28:34pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

Funny he doesn’t mention both Kushner and Manafort coming to that oh-so-casual meeting.

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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:30:40pm

Hannity going with “forged emails.”

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:31:45pm

lol…

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I thought it was a nothingburger?

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:31:55pm

re: #16 Blind Frog Belly White

Especially if she looks like Anna Chapman.

Anna Chapman is just a Jewel Staite wannabe, even if she’s 4 months older.

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Kragar  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:32:58pm
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piratedan  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:34:55pm

re: #125 b.d.

well if it was, then Eric has then paid homage to Lee J. Cobb in 12 Angry Men….

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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:35:30pm

Kevin Drum:

“…The crazy thing is that someone—or multiple someones—really has it in for Junior. They’ve been releasing information to the New York Times in very, very carefully staged tidbits designed to (a) get Don Jr. to lie on the record, and (b) keep the story going. At this point, Don Jr. has no idea what evidence these folks have, so he has no idea what it’s safe to lie about.”
motherjones.com

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Lidane  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:36:40pm

I know that all of this is serious business, but this tweet literally made me laugh out loud:

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:37:22pm
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Kragar  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:37:29pm

re: #125 b.d.

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:38:37pm

re: #131 jaunte

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mmmirele  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:40:28pm

Back when I was a teenager in the 1970s, I used to read political potboilers. You know, Allen Drury, “Advise and Consent” and so on. One of the later novels in the series is called “Come Nineveh, Come Tyre” and depicts a weak president being sucked into the Soviet orbit. The end of the novel has the weak president standing with the Russian premier, watching as the combined American and Soviet flag flap from flagpoles all around Washington.

Of course, Drury had it absolutely WRONG as to the source of the weakness—he thought it would be “leftists.” And, obviously, we’re not in the era of the Soviets, but in that of Russian plutocrats. But these last several months, every time something comes up about the Russians, I think back to that potboiler and wonder if Drury was more right than he knew?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:41:14pm

re: #6 darthstar

Don Jr. was adopted so he’s not a true Trump. ;)

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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:42:03pm

re: #135 mmmirele

I vaguely(!) remember reading that one.

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:43:16pm

re: #112 FormerDirtDart

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If there’s any organization that is going to challenge this, let me know so I can donate.

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:44:44pm

re: #42 Mattand

Remember this tweet the next time someone tries to convince you that David From is a moderate Republican who is horrified at what his beloved GOP has become.

I’m never going to excuse Frum, but I wonder if he was trying to be witty about Priebus’ comment about “a big nothing burger” and mocking it.

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:45:58pm

re: #119 jaunte

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darthstar  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:46:05pm
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scottslemmons  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:46:12pm

re: #134 b.d.

Hannity looks like he’s about to crack.

Hannity looks like a man who knows there’s a tape out there of him getting pegged by a Russian hooker.

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Lidane  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:46:44pm
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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:47:28pm

re: #140 Belafon

Next year, with this crashing down, Democrats need to partially challenge every Republican on how they coordinated with the Russians. They can’t make it the majority of their campaign, but selling out the country - for tax cuts for the wealthy - needs to be a message.

Related:

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:47:53pm
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Lidane  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:47:59pm

re: #133 Kragar

Who’s the Fox spokesmodel? She looks like she just realized it’s shark week and she’s wearing all white.

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Varek Raith  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:48:09pm

What seems to be the officer, problem?
-Jr

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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:48:15pm

Complicit, complicit, complicit.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:49:03pm

re: #141 darthstar

A lawyer who specializes in RICO cases by any chance?

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:49:16pm

re: #139 ObserverArt

I’m never going to excuse Frum, but I wonder if he was trying to be witty about Priebus’ comment about “a big nothing burger and mocking it.”

I read it as total mockery. How much does a nothing burger cost? Nothing. It wouldn’t be $42 with gold flakes. That’s the kind of burger that gets a segment on the Food Network.

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b.d.  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:52:21pm

I bet Donald is trying to get Christie to take Junior on a deep sea fishing trip

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Varek Raith  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:53:29pm

re: #151 b.d.

I bet Donald is trying to get Christie to take Junior on a deep sea fishing trip

Does Jr own any horses?
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sagehen  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:55:09pm
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Lidane  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:55:53pm

re: #152 FormerDirtDart

Erik Prince = Betsy DeVos’s brother.

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Varek Raith  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:56:11pm

re: #155 Lidane

Erik Prince = Betsy DeVos’s brother.

Shocka!

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:56:11pm

re: #151 b.d.

Forget hiring a lawyer, he might want to hire a food taster and car starter.

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:56:52pm

re: #153 Varek Raith

Does Jr own any horses?
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I’d be worried about another elephant hunt.

News headline: Donald Trump Junior Killed by Rampaging Elephant.

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:56:57pm

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

This made me laugh:

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calochortus  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:58:04pm

re: #152 FormerDirtDart

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:58:13pm
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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:58:38pm

Twitter keeps giving me a “something went wrong” message.
YES, WE KNOW.

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stpaulbear  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:59:34pm

re: #152 FormerDirtDart

Team Trump really goes the extra mile in finding exactly the wrong way to do everything. It’s almost impressive.

The WaPo is getting behind in the scoop count. Hope they have something big brewing.

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Varek Raith  Jul 10, 2017 • 7:59:56pm

re: #162 jaunte

Twitter keeps giving me a “something went wrong” message.
YES, WE KNOW.

And Clippy is here to help!

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:00:02pm

re: #162 jaunte

Twitter keeps giving me a “something went wrong” message.
YES, WE KNOW.

Have we supplied enough tweets that it can now muse about the world?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:00:25pm

Damn, initial reports had only nine on board

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:00:40pm

re: #163 stpaulbear

Team Trump really goes the extra mile in finding exactly the wrong way to do everything. It’s almost impressive.

The WaPo is getting behind in the scoop count. Hope they have something big brewing.

This is how WE win.

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jaunte  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:00:44pm

re: #165 Belafon

Just don’t give it autonomous orbital drones.

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Varek Raith  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:01:52pm

re: #169 jaunte

Just don’t give it autonomous orbital drones.

Eve Online Rogue drone rock

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ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:03:22pm

With the cracks showing in the Grand Old Party from the infighting in the ongoing healthcare mucking about…adding in something like Drudge having to point out the reality of the email notice can really be an accelerant to the oncoming explosion.

I think all of this will start breaking the party into groups fighting over what to do about and with Trump. It is just a natural process of politics in crisis. Butt saving can lead people into all kinds of directions. It sure is going to mess up their legislative process with Trump.

Today has been a good day.

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stpaulbear  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:03:47pm

re: #168 Belafon

This is how WE win.

I hope so. Bigly.

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calochortus  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:04:48pm

This may have been brought up earlier today, but for those who missed it, apparently the election investigation commission isn’t going to collect voter info pending a court decision.
Presumably the whole thing will die quietly at some point.

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JordanRules  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:06:56pm

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:08:52pm

re: #172 stpaulbear

I hope so. Bigly.

Ultimately, I do too. I know this is probably going to sound weird, but I think this needs to play out a bit longer, and not collapse all at once. Two things need to come out of this:
1. The GOP needs to be punished by people finally figuring out that the party would have sold the country for the wealthy.
2. The media needs to break with the idea that they need to be friends with politicians in order to do their jobs. There are more and more that are getting that, and as I see NYT and WaPo competing for scoops, I’m seriously encouraged, but too many news orgs have lazy “reporters” that amount to no more than reporting on the headlines of others. NYT, WaPo, CNN, etc., need to get to a point where they kick these people to the curb.

Edit: And by number 1, I mean it has to get to the point where some people go “what the fuck have I been voting for all these years?”

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:11:41pm

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majii  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:15:32pm

re: #171 ObserverArt

“I think all of this will start breaking the party into groups fighting over what to do about and with Trump. It is just a natural process of politics in crisis. Butt saving can lead people into all kinds of directions. It sure is going to mess up their legislative process with Trump.”

When push comes to shove, the GOP pols will opt for saving themselves. If they can use Trump and there are few negative consequences of doing so, they’ll remain on board the Trump Express, but on the other hand, when the really stinky sh*t hits the fan, they’ll be forced to choose between him and themselves, and they’ll opt for saving their seats in Congress. I don’t think Trump realizes that there’s a limit to the degree to which many GOPer pols are willing to sacrifice themselves on his behalf. It’s going to take time to reach that point, but when/if it does come, I don’t expect any GOPers in Congress to sacrifice their political careers for him.

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MsJ  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:16:29pm

re: #174 JordanRules

Nice thread here. Roger Stone in the mix.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:17:02pm

So Drudge now moving for President Pence?

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:18:08pm

re: #173 calochortus

This may have been brought up earlier today, but for those who missed it, apparently the election investigation commission isn’t going to collect voter info pending a court decision.
Presumably the whole thing will die quietly at some point.

Never heard of the Alabama guy (Alan Lamar King) and he is a Probate Judge in my county!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:18:28pm

Even if Trump Jr gets jail time, his daddy will pardon him in a few years time.

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scottslemmons  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:19:40pm

re: #175 Belafon

Ultimately, I do to. I know this is probably going to sound weird, but I think this needs to play out a bit longer, and not collapse all at once. Two things need to come out of this:
1. The GOP needs to be punished by people finally figuring out that the party would have sold the country for the wealthy.
2. The media needs to break with the idea that they need to be friends with politicians in order to do their jobs. There are more and more that are getting that, and as I see NYT and WaPo competing for scoops, I’m seriously encouraged, but too many news orgs have lazy “reporters” that amount to no more than reporting on the headlines of others. NYT, WaPo, CNN, etc., need to get to a point where they kick these people to the curb.

There are a couple problems there. First, the GOP will never, ever turn on Trump — partly because they’re just utterly craven motherfuckers, and partly because of the second point — the base, which the GOP absolutely relies on, is a billion percent in the bag for Trump. It won’t do any good to get rid of Trump when a third of the nation is composed of nihilist sociopaths who see nothing wrong with shooting kindergarteners and crooked cops who’ve been champing at the bit to go full Gestapo.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:20:21pm

Lest we forget…

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calochortus  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:21:34pm

re: #182 BlueSpotinAL

Never heard of the Alabama guy (Alan Lamar King) and he is a Probate Judge in my county!

Who knows anything about the judges in their county unless they did something awful?

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calochortus  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:22:18pm

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

Even if Trump Jr gets jail time, his daddy will pardon him in a few years time.

How will he do that if he’s been impeached and removed from office? We hope…

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stpaulbear  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:22:24pm

One thing that everyone who wants this kind of reporting needs to do is to buy a subscription to the WaPo or NYT or whoever else is doing good reporting. I subscribed to the WaPo at the end of 2016. I can only afford one. They need to be supported for good work.

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majii  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:22:28pm

re: #173 calochortus

“This may have been brought up earlier today, but for those who missed it, apparently the election investigation commission isn’t going to collect voter info pending a court decision.”

I read earlier today that citizens in some states are raising a ruckus with secretaries of state about having their personal data released to Kobach & Co. I also read that Kobach/Trump has asked J. Christopher Adams to join the commission. This is just what is not needed to gin up examples of non-existent voter fraud—- a guy who ruined his career at the DOJ by lying and manufacturing BS, paired with another guy a judge recently fined for his dishonesty in a voter fraud case who is also known for peddling self-serving BS.

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calochortus  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:24:23pm

re: #189 majii

“This may have been brought up earlier today, but for those who missed it, apparently the election investigation commission isn’t going to collect voter info pending a court decision.”

I read earlier today that citizens in some states are raising a ruckus with secretaries of state about having their personal data released to Kobach & Co. I also read that Kobach/Trump has asked J. Christopher Adams to join the commission. This is just what is not needed to gin up examples of non-existent voter fraud—- a guy who ruined his career at the DOJ by lying and manufacturing BS, paired with another guy a judge recently fined for his dishonesty in a voter fraud case who is also known for peddling self-serving BS.

Sounds just like the sort of people the Trump administration loves.

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:24:33pm

re: #188 stpaulbear

One thing that everyone who wants this kind of reporting needs to do is to buy a subscription to the WaPo or NYT or whoever else is doing good reporting. I subscribed to the WaPo at the end of 2016. I can only afford one. They need to be supported for good work.

I have a WaPo digital subscription for that reason. When things settle down, I will get a Dallas Morning News subscription to support a local one.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:25:03pm

Maybe I have a very fast-acting cynical mind but I keep thinking “HOW IS THIS A SURPRISE??? REALLY?” and I’m a bit stumped how it’s taken A YEAR for this to drag out to the point where direct evidence is apparently being made public soon.

In a sane world, the absolute minute it was announced that Putin’s bag man in the Ukraine was Moscow Donny’s campaign manager, there should have been an APB/BOLO for Russian-based information-warfare skull-fuckery. Our entire intel community should have been lit up like a goddamned pinball machine. I thought so at the time, surely more important people than I did as well? :confused:

File all of this under NO DUH, EINSTEINS.

Anyway… Let’s all kick back and watch the Republicans hand-wave this away as nothing worth doing anything about, because The Russian Unknown Millions Protector is a meal ticket for the GOP Death-genda and at this point Putin could sit in the White House, put his feet up, and take a piss in the corner of the Oval Office, and these traitorous pieces of shit masquerading as a “Congress” would just giggle and count their benefactor’s tax cuts.

/barfffff.

I really hope Mueller is planning to go through these asshats like crap through a sick goose (to borrow a Patton-ism). LEAVE NO STONE ON TOP OF ANOTHER, BOB.

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JordanRules  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:25:46pm

re: #179 Interesting Times

Indeed! That pure uncut is quite addictive I hear.

I actually still think this is but a section of the iceberg. So many pieces in play, but we needed to start seeing cracks. We all needed for our mental health.

I’m trying to really modulate my reaction to this though. For some odd reason that feels appropriate and I can’t articulate why quite yet.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:26:03pm

re: #188 stpaulbear

One thing that everyone who wants this kind of reporting needs to do is to buy a subscription to the WaPo or NYT or whoever else is doing good reporting. I subscribed to the WaPo at the end of 2016. I can only afford one. They need to be supported for good work.

WaPo is on the Amazon Prime sale right now.

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:27:14pm

re: #192 Pawn of the Oppressor

Maybe I have a very fast-acting cynical mind but I keep thinking “HOW IS THIS A SURPRISE??? REALLY?” and I’m a bit stumped how it’s taken A YEAR for this to drag out to the point where direct evidence is apparently being made public soon.

In a sane world, the absolute minute it was announced that Putin’s bag man in the Ukraine was Moscow Donny’s campaign manager, there should have been an APB/BOLO for Russian-based information-warfare skull-fuckery. Our entire intel community should have been lit up like a goddamned pinball machine.

File all of this under NO DUH, EINSTEINS.

Anyway… Let’s all kick back and watch the Republicans hand-wave this away as nothing worth doing anything about, because The Russian Unknown Millions Protector is a meal ticket for the GOP Death-genda and at this point Putin could sit in the White House, put his feet up, and take a piss in the corner of the Oval Office, and these traitorous pieces of shit masquerading as a “Congress” would just giggle and count their benefactor’s tax cuts.

/barfffff.

In a world where this comes out as quickly as you say, Trump would not be president. It would be nice if we lived in that world, but we don’t.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:30:12pm

None of this matters unless some of Trumps people get penalized for their actions.

If they don’t it’s just theater.

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:31:14pm

Whoa, did I just see a lightning strike? *clap of thunder* Why yes, yes I did.

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:34:06pm

re: #199 goddamnedfrank

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:34:36pm

re: #196 Belafon

I guess so. Bureaucratic inertia, people’s basic faith that they’re not being lied to, general ignorance, and conflict aversion - all are potent action-retardants.

PutinCo has played a game that’s run fifty times longer than the average American’s political attention span, and they’ve played it so well that Putin goes on TV and tells his subsidiary “Donski, is no problem. Go to media and say, repeat after me: So Fucking What?” right there in public and nearly the entire Legislative branch just does goddamned nothing.

I’m gonna send Mueller a $20 donation in the mail tomorrow with a note that says “Please use this to save our Republic”.

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:35:54pm

Wow. There’s water falling from the sky. That’s been…rare this summer.

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:36:24pm

I hope none of these lightning strikes starts a fire near me. That would suck.

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:38:36pm

re: #202 teleskiguy

Wow. There’s water falling from the sky. That’s been…rare this summer.

“Sorry, just testing the emergency extinction system” - God

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:39:24pm

re: #203 teleskiguy

I hope none of these lightning strikes starts a fire near me. That would suck.

Want to know how freaky the weather has been here in Dallas: I have yet to turn the sprinklers on this year.

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JordanRules  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:40:16pm

re: #202 teleskiguy

I want some!!!!

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BigPapa  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:43:27pm

Like Donnie Treason wouldn’t call Daddy and say “I got a meeting set up to get dirt on Hill!’

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:44:06pm

That was a bright lightning strike. Struck about two miles away.

When I was a kid I was afraid of thunderstorms, I’d hide under blankets and cover my ears when they passed through. Now I cherish them. Hopefully I don’t end up in a thunderstorm producing baseball sized hail and tornadoes, that would suck.

Oooh! There goes another bolt! Just over two miles away.

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majii  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:44:40pm

re: #206 JordanRules

“I want some!!!!”

I wish I were able to send you some of the rain we’ve gotten here in Central GA the last two days. Heavy downpour yesterday and today.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:46:51pm

re: #207 BigPapa

Like Donnie Treason wouldn’t call Daddy and say “I got a meeting set up to get dirt on Hill!’

Exactly. He’s been trying for the old man’s approval his whole existence.

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JordanRules  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:53:49pm

re: #209 majii

What if I provide free shipping?
Hopefully we’ll get some monsoon goodness soon.

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Interesting Times  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:54:14pm

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:55:35pm

Damn. It’s raining pretty good. Should help with the #GutzlerFire in my county, hopefully.

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JordanRules  Jul 10, 2017 • 8:58:41pm

re: #207 BigPapa

Some reports have Turnip and Reince meeting with the campaign money team in the same building on the same day. I’d bet Junior was texting him during the damn treason meeting.

Also, let’s not forget, Reince was not formally part of the campaign at this point. He was in the building (for another meeting) as the GOPer guy.

Then after all these suspect ass meetings…the tweets start. You can damn near see them poking their chests out in the tweets from that day.

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BigPapa  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:02:25pm

re: #216 JordanRules

All those tweets, all timelined, all evidence that they can be questioned on.

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:06:16pm

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:09:50pm

re: #215 teleskiguy

Big cell over you…

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:12:25pm

Just wow.

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JordanRules  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:13:04pm

Mmmhmmm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:14:41pm

Is there anyone in the Trump admin who isn’t corrupt as fuck?

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:15:20pm

re: #224 goddamnedfrank

Stranger Than Fiction

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:15:35pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

Is there anyone in the Trump admin who isn’t corrupt as fuck?

Rick Perry. //

The guy heading the VA.

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BigPapa  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:16:10pm

In addition to it being laughable that Trump didn’t know what Jr was up to… like Manafort and Kushner would go to some meeting from some unknown person saying ‘I got dirt’ without more specific information on content… or they knew the person was highly probably to have something of value.

There’s no way out of this.

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JordanRules  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:18:54pm

re: #229 BigPapa

Right! They would’ve been in that other meeting at the tower with Cheeto and Reince.

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JordanRules  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:20:35pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

They don’t have any pets because they’re horrible people, so no, nobody.

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:20:51pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick tweets tomorrow…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:24:41pm

re: #224 goddamnedfrank

Just wow.

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Feezus Jucking Key-Ryest!

How much coke did that fool snort????

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:24:52pm

Dana ‘muh gunz’ Loesch is getting schooled on Twitter.

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:28:12pm

re: #236 teleskiguy

Dana ‘muh gunz’ Loesch is getting schooled on Twitter.

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BigPapa  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:29:56pm

Watching Jason Miller bomb on AC360.

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Varek Raith  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:35:41pm

So….
Either Pence knew about most of this
OR
Pence is a ham sandwich.
Surely this inspires confidence!
Or something.

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2017 • 9:38:40pm

Tech thing: I have an Ubuntu box that I ran a cable to just because I didn’t have wifi installed on it. After moving some routers around, I decided it was time to cut the cord. I bought a Belkin N300 Wifi USB adapter for $9.99 at Amazon, followed these instructions, ubuntuforums.org, and had wifi in about 3 minutes.

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majii  Jul 10, 2017 • 10:30:35pm

re: #243 Belafon

I have a Belkin router, and it is awesome. Glad you found one at such a great price because I paid more for mine.

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makeitstop  Jul 10, 2017 • 11:50:31pm

re: #62 darthstar

I think he’s about as concerned about the GOP anymore as Charles is. That doesn’t mean he isn’t a conservative with whom I disagree on many levels…

I read the quote as sarcasm.

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steve_davis  Jul 11, 2017 • 5:47:22am

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

Then we get Paul Ryan. Then Hatch.

It’s turtles assholes all the way down.

as i’ve said before, that’s fine. if the PeeTUS and the VPget taken out, no legislation will possibly move through congress, and it will nuke the gop for at least a generation. Having one set of P/VP forced to resign might be viewed as tragic. Having the second set resign will strike people as carelessness.


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