Video: Keith Olbermann’s Take on the Smoking Gun Trump Jr. Emails
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This is all just too good to be true!
But damn. Is it fucking glorious.
turns out the nothingburger was made from a…mos-cow
— Ariel Edwards-Levy (@aedwardslevy) July 11, 2017
Former Watergate prosecutor Nick Akerman says Trump Jr. emails are “almost a smoking cannon.” Told me “there’s no question this is treason.”
— Gabby Morrongiello (@gabriellahope_) July 11, 2017
Here is the thing that is troubling me today:
What in the world is it going to take for Trump’s myriad defenders & enablers to stand down?
But not enough to get the GOP to turn on him…he is still too vital to their interests.
re: #4 bratwurst
Here is the thing that is troubling me today:
What in the world is it going to take for Trump’s myriad defenders & enablers to stand down?
Alas. Nothing.
The thing is, after all this lying, and DT2 saying there was nothing offered and nothing happened, why would anyone believe him?
Also, Russian lawyer tells NBC it was the Trump campaign that approached her about getting dirt on Hillary, not the other way around.
— Jim Roberts (@nycjim) July 11, 2017
re: #4 bratwurst
Here is the thing that is troubling me today:
What in the world is it going to take for Trump’s myriad defenders & enablers to stand down?
Russia taking Alaska.
What a day! pic.twitter.com/Lh09hJeudL
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 11, 2017
re: #4 bratwurst
Here is the thing that is troubling me today:
What in the world is it going to take for Trump’s myriad defenders & enablers to stand down?
They themselves have to come to see that Trump is a threat to their own continued grip on power and their ability to implement their agenda.
re: #9 Stanley Sea
Russia taking Alaska.
“One last thing. Sarah Palin. She lives in Arizona now, yes?”
Damn, Twitter is on fire.
We’re looking at “attempted collusion” or perhaps “failed collusion,” and it’s deeply troubling. My NRO analysis: https://t.co/SifLsnl4Bu
— David French (@DavidAFrench) July 11, 2017
From @NRO: “The Russian investigation isn’t a witch hunt anymore, if it ever was. It’s a national necessity.” It’s not an ideological issue. https://t.co/xtbfKux5mR
— Preet Bharara (@PreetBharara) July 11, 2017
re: #8 MsJ
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The second is really the clincher. The prevailing defense is “Bitch set me up!” But if she’s saying that they’re the ones who came to her, then it wasn’t a set-up.
The video won’t display on my computer. I just have a large blank space where it should be.
Maybe David Brooks can talk me through it. /s
re: #15 Targetpractice
The second is really the clincher. The prevailing defense is “Bitch set me up!” But if she’s saying that they’re the ones who came to her, then it wasn’t a set-up.
foul temptress, she knew they were weak and yet let them act on it
My son is a very high quality and transparent, like my fine Trump brand Russian Vodka!
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 11, 2017
2/RNC needs to be asked if its support of foreign government’s active measures campaign in US remains official policy of the Committee.
— Simon Rosenberg (@SimonWDC) July 11, 2017
Any sufficiently advanced incompetence and whatnot.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 11, 2017
re: #4 bratwurst
Here is the thing that is troubling me today:
What in the world is it going to take for Trump’s myriad defenders & enablers to stand down?
Catching him in bed w/ a dead girl or a live boy.
(Hat tip to former Gov. Edwin Edwards of Louisiana!)
My son is like a filet mignon that you can see through.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 11, 2017
re: #4 bratwurst
Here is the thing that is troubling me today:
What in the world is it going to take for Trump’s myriad defenders & enablers to stand down?
Trump agreeing to raise taxes to pay for inner city school lunch programs?
My son is truffle oil basically.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 11, 2017
re: #8 MsJ
Russian lawyer tells NBC it was the Trump campaign that approached her about getting dirt on Hillary, not the other way around.
And I’d be willing to bet real American dollars that she’s got receipts.
Okay, I have the video working now. Funny, that little circular arrow in the address bar reloads a Webpage. /s
re: #17 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
foul temptress, she knew they were weak and yet let them act on it
“She let me eat the apple!”
How karmically ironic is it that the Hillary Clinton emails may very well be the thing that brings down the Donald Trump presidency?
re: #21 austin_blue
Catching him in bed w/ a dead girl or a live boy.
(Hat tip to former Gov. Edwin Edwards of Louisiana!)
They’d spin the dead girl as an example of how virile he is. The boy they’d just ignore.
re: #28 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos
How karmically ironic is it that the Hillary Clinton emails may very well be the thing that brings down the Donald Trump presidency?
Turns out there is a god, and his name is Loki.
I heroically and fairly rapidly read through the last thread despite a couple interruptions (like neighbor calling to talk at length about, well I’m still not sure there was a point.) Finally, I get to the bottom of the thread and…oh look, another thread!
So this may already have been noted and I missed it, but you know how we’re always talking about it being not the crime, but the coverup? This may be a test for that theory.
Don Jr.: Hi! I committed a crime. Here’s the evidence. Enjoy.
He’s the most heinous, contemptible character in the whole saga. Trump & Co are malignant idiots but Mitch knew exactly what he was doing
— Jason Hochman (@jhhochman) July 11, 2017
LIVE footage of Hillary Clinton. pic.twitter.com/SSvGDmsiEO
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 11, 2017
re: #32 jaunte
McConnell deserves a jail sentence, but probably all he’s going to get is a sidebar in the history books about being the Majority Leader who broke the Senate.
re: #28 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos
How karmically ironic is it that the Hillary Clinton emails may very well be the thing that brings down the Donald Trump presidency?
re: #31 calochortus
I heroically and fairly rapidly read through the last thread despite a couple interruptions (like neighbor calling to talk at length about, well I’m still not sure there was a point.) Finally, I get to the bottom of the thread and…oh look, another thread!
So this may already have been noted and I missed it, but you know how we’re always talking about it being not the crime, but the coverup? This may be a test for that theory.
Don Jr.: Hi! I committed a crime. Here’s the evidence. Enjoy.
I suspect that, bad as this is, it might be that his lawyers said that if he beat the NYT to press it would look better for him than if he let them break it. If bad news is coming out anyway, releasing it makes you look, if only slightly, like someone with nothing to hide.
re: #31 calochortus
I heroically and fairly rapidly read through the last thread despite a couple interruptions (like neighbor calling to talk at length about, well I’m still not sure there was a point.) Finally, I get to the bottom of the thread and…oh look, another thread!
So this may already have been noted and I missed it, but you know how we’re always talking about it being not the crime, but the coverup? This may be a test for that theory.
Don Jr.: Hi! I committed a crime. Here’s the evidence. Enjoy.
The “it’s not the crime, it’s the cover up” usually involves smaller crimes. Like hiring an undocumented immigrant as a maid - technically a crime, but not something that by itself would ruin a campaign; until you pay them hush money and fake records to make it look like nothing happened. Or even when low level patsies (who you were smart enough to separate yourself from with a few levels of plausible deniability) break into a hotel to steal campaign documents and accidentally start a small fire - a little B&E by some guys you don’t “actually” know - but then you record yourself saying that you orchestrated the whole thing and want to get those pinko commie bastard Kennedys who have been after you for years.
re: #28 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos
How karmically ironic is it that the Hillary Clinton emails may very well be the thing that brings down the Donald Trump presidency?
That would be epic karma irony with fringes and tassels. And proof that, as the saying goes, that “karma is a bitch.”
re: #36 Blind Frog Belly White
I suspect that, bad as this is, it might be that his lawyers said that if he beat the NYT to press it would look better for him than if he let them break it. If bad news is coming out anyway, releasing it makes you look, if only slightly, like someone with nothing to hide.
Presumably so, but I don’t think it will convince prosecutors that everything is hunky dory.
re: #36 Blind Frog Belly White
I suspect that, bad as this is, it might be that his lawyers said that if he beat the NYT to press it would look better for him than if he let them break it. If bad news is coming out anyway, releasing it makes you look, if only slightly, like someone with nothing to hide.
First piece of advice every lawyer gives: shut your fucking mouth, do not talk about this to anyone other than the people in this room.
I honestly think Donnie Jr thinks whatever happens he’ll be able to skate because his dad will bail him out with a pardon… or get the AG/DOJ to shut down any criminal proceedings against him.
It’s funny, but when the news came out about emails last night, I was like “Well, we can be sure all those were long ago deleted and it’ll be a bitch to restore them, assuming Mueller’s team can even get hold of the original HDDs.”
Who knew Junior would be so stupid as to go “Here’s the emails!”
Like I said the other day, this is the sort of shit that prosecutors live for, those moments when a defendant thinks he’s so bullet-proof that he can flaunt his crime.
Hope that old pugilist is called to elaborate
Who knows? https://t.co/7iYhtevypq pic.twitter.com/DiGFAHEBcN
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 11, 2017
re: #37 KGxvi
The “it’s not the crime, it’s the cover up” usually involves smaller crimes. Like hiring an undocumented immigrant as a maid - technically a crime, but not something that by itself would ruin a campaign; until you pay them hush money and fake records to make it look like nothing happened. Or even when low level patsies (who you were smart enough to separate yourself from with a few levels of plausible deniability) break into a hotel to steal campaign documents and accidentally start a small fire - a little B&E by some guys you don’t “actually” know - but then you record yourself saying that you orchestrated the whole thing and want to get those pinko commie bastard Kennedys who have been after you for years.
But I do think this is more on a level with the Watergate break in. Sort of like saying yeah, my guys did this but we didn’t really learn anything from the bug. I’m not sure Don Jr.’s meeting rises to the level of treason or anything, but it does appear to be a crime.
Hey, you know what I’d like to hear more about right now?
Not the Trumpster fire…I want more specifics on what kinds of gin klys got to try in Jolly Olde England, and if there are good ones I can get my hands on here.
Priorities, people….
It’s amazing how suppressed facts find the light of day. It takes time, but they seem usually to find it.
re: #4 bratwurst
Here is the thing that is troubling me today:
What in the world is it going to take for Trump’s myriad defenders & enablers to stand down?
It bugs me that we still don’t know where we go from here. The Republicans in Congress will laugh this whole thing off. A third of the nation thinks Trump is great and needs to go even farther. How does anyone repair the country?
re: #4 bratwurst
Here is the thing that is troubling me today:
What in the world is it going to take for Trump’s myriad defenders & enablers to stand down?
Trump caught fisting Jesus in an abortion clinic
Hannity: He is an unorthodox president, and besides is it illegal?
re: #38 Teukka
That would be epic karma irony with fringes and tassels. And proof that, as the saying goes, that “karma is a bitch.”
I was stunned that Hillary Clinton lost. Nevertheless, unlike Mitch McConnell with Barack Obama, I did not want to see Donald Trump fail. I don’t want to see any president fail, regardless of party.
But it seems to be time to pull the plug on this. Holy crap, I thought Nixon’s administration was bad, and then Reagan’s. I can’t believe the GOP looked at those and said “hold my beer.”
re: #43 calochortus
But I do think this is more on a level with the Watergate break in. Sort of like saying yeah, my guys did this but we didn’t really learn anything from the bug. I’m not sure Don Jr.’s meeting rises to the level of treason or anything, but it does appear to be a crime.
Oh, I agree this is at least on the same level as Watergate (probably higher since it involves a foreign government). There are two questions now:
First, will Donald Trump have sufficient plausible deniability to escape any repercussions? Meaning: will he be able to convincingly argue that all of this really happened without his knowledge, before/during/after these Don Jr transactions?
Second, will Donald Trump be smart enough to not go on a tirade that ultimately proves he is culpable for these transgressions? Meaning: will someone take away his phone so he can’t tweet, and/or clear his schedule of public speeches?
Given Trump’s history, I doubt he will be able to maintain plausible deniability. And even if he does, I don’t think his ego and/or his id will allow this to end without a major meltdown wherein he admits that he knew what was going on, a la Mayor Sideshow Bob.
re: #47 451_Montag
Trump caught fisting Jesus in an abortion clinic
Hannity: He is an unorthodox president, and besides is it illegal?
Trump caught with a Nazi flag:
Lumpy: Well we’re not at war with them anymore!
re: #49 KGxvi
The day Trump listens to his lawyer (or much of anyone else) is the day we can all start worrying…
re: #14 MsJ
Damn, Twitter is on fire.
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What I don’t get is that with this talk of attempted or failed collusion all comes from El Naranaja Yamito. Seriously he has lied about everything so far, so we’re going to take his word that he rejected what she was offering? In The absence of audio I’m taking it as he completely bought into whatever she was selling.
re: #50 HappyWarrior
Trump caught with a Nazi flag:
Lumpy: Well we’re not at war with them anymore!
Given Hannity’s close friendship with neo-Nazis (see Hal Turner for example), it’s a safe bet he would have absolutely no problem with Trump wearing a swastika armband.
re: #52 451_Montag
What I don’t get is that with this talk of attempted or failed collusion all comes from El Naranaja Yamito. Seriously he has lied about everything so far, so we’re going to take his word that he rejected what she was offering? In The absence of audio I’m taking it as he completely bought into whatever she was selling.
Ever see “To Catch a Predator”?
When those guys show up to the house, there’s no 15-year-old to have sex with. But they’re arrested anyway, for hoping/planning/expecting that there would be.
re: #53 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos
Given Hannity’s close friendship with neo-Nazis (see Hal Turner for example), it’s a safe bet he would have absolutely no problem with Trump wearing a swastika armband.
Very true.
A cooling trend is in order at Chez Tumbleweed… . 102F now… .
ok
Spotted going into House Intel: SecDef Jim Mattis
— Jeremy Herb (@jeremyherb) July 11, 2017
No puppet, you’re the puppet.
Didn’t do it.
Didn’t do it.
Didn’t do it.
Even if I did, it wouldn’t be a crime.
Everybody does it.
Very important. Report from CNN says a lot of this was news to the FBI and Special Counsel’s office >>> https://t.co/7jJ2gnmx0z via @TPM
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 11, 2017
re: #54 sagehen
Ever see “To Catch a Predator”?
When those guys show up to the house, there’s no 15-year-old to have sex with. But they’re arrested anyway, for hoping/planning/expecting that there would be.
True, but what is pissing me of is how quickly the vacuous spin of the right always gains traction. Even just using the soundboards gives it weight and gravitas. The truth is he met with a Russian lawyer with the expectation of gaining illegally obtained information, which is, as you said a crime. But the twitterati act as though failed collusion is a thing, it not.
re: #60 451_Montag
True, but what is pissing me of is how quickly the vacuous spin of the right always gains traction. Even just using the soundboards gives it weight and gravitas. The truth is he met with a Russian lawyer with the expectation of gaining illegally obtained information, which is, as you said a crime. But the twitterati act as though failed collusion is a thing, it not.
Propaganda’s a helluva drug. If you’re inclined to believe those who do not hold the same political positions (i.e. liberals) are un-America or what not, then you’re pretty much susceptible to anything that demonises them.
Note the zombie lie that still circulates (heard it from someone here yesterday) that Canadians have to wait months to see a doctor because of single-payer healthcare insurance.
re: #28 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos
How karmically ironic that Hillary Clinton emails may be the thing that brings down the Donald Trump presidency?
From RadicalModerate— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) July 11, 2017
Here’s another example of karma
Hackers have been stealing credit card numbers from Trump’s hotels for months https://t.co/FzTbsAFMbV
— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) July 11, 2017
what petrifies me the most about all of this is the cast of characters involved…
Putin, not afraid to kill anyone who’s inconvenient to him.
Trump, narcissistic, petty, spiteful and quite possibly mentally imbalanced
the remaining cast of the GOP players, who were quite willing to eschew the laws and traditions of the nation AND circumvent the will of the people in order to try and keep control of the very institutions that shape us and our policy and the interpretation of our laws in order to maintain an advantage.
A special investigative committee to unearth and present the findings that appear to illustrate that the people currently in power, came into that power illegally…
I’m not sure what comes next… I don’t know if these people will feel any compulsion to follow the law. Plus, we’re well acquainted with a good number of our fellow citizens that will allow any transgression made by “their team” if it allows them to win.
yeah, Christian morals and ethics notwithstanding…
The Hill that they’re willing to die on?
Taking away health care among the poorest of us, denying opportunity that has been given to those seeking a better life for CENTURIES, tainting the concept of religious freedom to be some theological valhalla for only certain sects of Christianity, dividing us as a nation based on race, creed and religion, antithetical to the very foundation of our nation.
all of this… so rich people can be richer.
It’s a wonder, that the nation can be patient to see this played out and that so many are still so indifferent.
Maybe this is the whole “shoot someone on 5th Avenue” thing he was talking about. We had no idea it could be his son.
— efuseakay (@efuseakay) July 11, 2017
Still blown away by the big reveal that NOTHINGBURGER was his sled. pic.twitter.com/QSw0Q7sXaQ
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 11, 2017
Stupidest post of the day, Islamophobia edition:
OMG! You mean two different women in two different countries dressed differently!
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) July 11, 2017
Watson is trying to show that Sweden has too many Muslims and is therefore doomed by Sharia law, but I’m pretty sure Iraq still has more Muslims than Sweden, so I’m not sure what the hell is going on in his deranged mind.
re: #61 HappyWarrior
Imagine what else is out there.
What I’m thinking is what comment to the tweet pointed out: If Mueller and the FBI didn’t know about this, then it may end up being bigger than it appears. After all, odds are Manafort or Kushner have spoken with authorities already and lying to investigators is not something you do if you want to avoid a spot in the Greybar Hotel.
re: #44 ipsos
Hey, you know what I’d like to hear more about right now?
Not the Trumpster fire…I want more specifics on what kinds of gin klys got to try in Jolly Olde England, and if there are good ones I can get my hands on here.
Priorities, people….
To spare the uninterested:
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re: #69 Ace-o-aces
Stupidest post of the day:
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Something something freedom of choice.
reposting from last night
— JC (@notladymary) July 11, 2017
re: #54 sagehen
Ever see “To Catch a Predator”?
When those guys show up to the house, there’s no 15-year-old to have sex with. But they’re arrested anyway, for hoping/planning/expecting that there would be.
Wait, so you’re saying if I go to a hotel with an undercover cop who’s posing as a prostitute, it’s a crime even if I DON’T get laid?
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re: #71 klys (maker of Silmarils)
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re: #74 Blind Frog Belly White
Wait, so you’re saying if I go to a hotel with an undercover cop who’s posing as a prostitute, it’s a crime even if I DON’T get laid?
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Better cancel that appointment.
re: #71 klys (maker of Silmarils)
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re: #75 Blind Frog Belly White
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So I look at the folks making fun of Brooks and think “how many of you have taken a genuine working class person to lunch?”
— (((Megan McArdle))) (@asymmetricinfo) July 11, 2017
Would that be as a friend, relative, or purely for condescension purposes? https://t.co/uNm2s2QgZn
— Law, Science, Logic (@lawsciencelogic) July 11, 2017
re: #76 calochortus
Better cancel that appointment.
Like I used to tell The Boys - you don’t know who you’re talking to on the internet. That sweet girl, your own age, who is also interested in gaming may be a 53 year old pedophile in Australia.
Or Fresno.
re: #75 Blind Frog Belly White
re: #78 ipsos
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re: #75 Blind Frog Belly White
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re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White
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re: #34 petesh
McConnell deserves a jail sentence, but probably all he’s going to get is a sidebar in the history books about being the Majority Leader who broke the Senate.
McConnell and Ryan and a slew of others knew about the collusion with the Russians. They all need to be held accountable.
I am hoping public servants, even if Republican, will do their duty.
re: #80 jaunte
I swear I didn’t want to get into that but Brooks-defenders are so incredibly patronizing it blows my mind. But liberals live in a bubble! 🙄
— Regina W 🖖 (@regwag2003) July 11, 2017
Couldn’t possibly be that some people just have a hard time simply relaxing & eating the equivalent of their monthly transportation budget.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 11, 2017
Subtext being, “I don’t care about helping you in any way that might be meaningful I’m just going to literally rub your face in my money.”
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 11, 2017
They are taking a “genuine working class person” to lunch, what more do you want???
— Regina W 🖖 (@regwag2003) July 11, 2017
Yup.
— Regina W 🖖 (@regwag2003) July 11, 2017
Are we all going to ignore the fact that David Brooks is clearly dating a 19 year old
— Dana Schwartz (@DanaSchwartzzz) July 11, 2017
re: #80 jaunte
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Now, mind you, it really needs to be not only working class, but someone of the working class in a pasty white small town, because if you’re talking working class in most of your major cities, they’re gonna fucking know what sopressata is. Or does she think neighborhood Italian sandwich shops cater only to the elite?
re: #80 jaunte
(((Megan McArdle))) ✔
@asymmetricinfoSo I look at the folks making fun of Brooks and think “how many of you have taken a genuine working class person to lunch?”
No thanks, Megan, you can save me both your condescension and save yourself the money by not taking me to lunch.
Were you one of those who tried to go around me when I was homeless?
So I look at the folks making fun of Brooks and think “how many of you have taken a genuine working class person to lunch?”
— (((Megan McArdle))) (@asymmetricinfo) July 11, 2017
.Fuck you, idiot. I AM a working class person, and I mock Brooks every time he writes something silly or mendacious. Which is always. https://t.co/7g6sooiaTv
— Jebediah Springfield (@JebediahRBG) July 11, 2017
re: #81 Blind Frog Belly White
Like I used to tell The Boys - you don’t know who you’re talking to on the internet. That sweet girl, your own age, who is also interested in gaming may be a 53 year old pedophile in Australia.
Or Fresno.
One of my E-mail taglines:
The Internet: Where women are men and 12 year old girls are FBI agents.
re: #88 goddamnedfrank
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Hey, Nineteen! That’s ‘Retha Franklin!
She don’t remember The Queen of Soul!
CNN showed a clip from jr’s interview on Hannity.
He’s speaking so fast & nervously.
just a bunch of blah blah cya at warp speed.
re: #95 Stanley Sea
CNN showed a clip from jr’s interview on Hannity.
He’s speaking so fast & nervously.
just a bunch of blah blah cya at warp speed.
Look like Lumpty Dumpty’s “Hannitization” puff piece softball interview is a rousing success.
re: #96 Blind Frog Belly White
Yeah, but have you taken yourself to lunch recently?
Good point. I have not!
ETA: I’m not the sort with whom I would want to be seen lunching, after all.
Zero fucks to give Tim Kaine:
Hillary Clinton’s former running mate Sen. Tim Kaine says Donald Trump Jr. may have committed treason https://t.co/JtN0JqXDO5 pic.twitter.com/QhpRNi1qfi
— CNN (@CNN) July 11, 2017
I wonder what Brooks would make of the fact that my very working class maternal great uncles ate things like “Kolbasi.” But I get it, Dave, I’m a snob because I like to try out new food. Yep, you sure showed me.
Don Jr is Sonny at the toll booth, Eric is Fredo.
— Greg Berta (@gregberta) July 11, 2017
I just don’t understand why he deliberately drove himself TO the toll booth then got out and helped them riddle his own body with bullets. https://t.co/9TTFk6GRMM
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) July 11, 2017
re: #95 Stanley Sea
CNN showed a clip from jr’s interview on Hannity.
He’s speaking so fast & nervously.
just a bunch of blah blah cya at warp speed.
re: #100 Timothy Watson
Zero fucks to give Tim Kaine:
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Yeah I just saw that. He’s pissed and he should be. That man should be our VP, not fucking Pence.
re: #99 HappyWarrior
It’s not a complete lunch experience until you speculate in front of a national audience about his fear of an unfamiliar menu item.
re: #100 Timothy Watson
Zero fucks to give Tim Kaine:
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Okay, but he might be right afaik.
Maybe the real MAGA was the relatives we unfollowed along the way.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 11, 2017
re: #105 jaunte
It’s not a complete lunch experience until you speculate in front of a national audience about his fear of an unfamiliar menu item.
You know, now that I think about it, my own father was pretty much working class my entire childhood but unlike some people, I don’t treat the working class like they’re children.
re: #89 Blind Frog Belly White
Now, mind you, it really needs to be not only working class, but someone of the working class in a pasty white small town, because if you’re talking working class in most of your major cities, they’re gonna fucking know what sopressata is. Or does she think neighborhood Italian sandwich shops cater only to the elite?
I’m reasonably wealthy, from a reasonably wealthy family, and I had to look up sopressata. Spoiler: it’s salami.
re: #107 goddamnedfrank
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I’ve had some pleasant surprises on that front. I do have a couple extended cousins that have turned out to be quite wingnutty but a couple of my other cousins would make great Lizards.
re: #65 Stanley Sea
Here’s another example of karma
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Would anyone be surprised if the family was behind the hacking of the credit card numbers?
You’ve spotted the rare mythological “Pig-eon”, a lion with the head of a pigeon… and the body of the pigeon. Very rare. pic.twitter.com/ndKPgtmBaY
— c0nc0rdance (@c0nc0rdance) July 11, 2017
BREAKING: Trump Administration desperately working on a chaff dispenser that spits out squirrels.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 11, 2017
re: #107 goddamnedfrank
No douche not left behind.
re: #106 Unshaken Defiance
Okay, but he might be right afaik.
But most Democrats have been just saying ‘it needs to be investigated, etc.’ Kaine’s comment is noticeably, at least to me, more…radical?
re: #89 Blind Frog Belly White
Now, mind you, it really needs to be not only working class, but someone of the working class in a pasty white small town, because if you’re talking working class in most of your major cities, they’re gonna fucking know what sopressata is. Or does she think neighborhood Italian sandwich shops cater only to the elite?
I have 2 engineering degrees, have been to Italy 5 times, and have no idea what sopressata is. (nor can I figure it out from my conversational Italian or high school French - I could look it up but can’t be bothered)
Cause I’m middle class from the west coast, where we have no good Italian delis. Weep for me. :)
David Brooks - east coast provincialist to the core.
re: #115 Timothy Watson
But most Democrats have been just saying ‘it needs to be investigated, etc.’ Kaine’s comment is noticeably, at least to me, more…radical?
That’s the consensus right now.
He’ll probably be proven correct when all is said & done.
Next up is the quid pro quo.
re: #4 bratwurst
Here is the thing that is troubling me today:
What in the world is it going to take for Trump’s myriad defenders & enablers to stand down?
They won’t go quietly. So shout them down and vote them our next November.
re: #115 Timothy Watson
But most Democrats have been just saying ‘it needs to be investigated, etc.’ Kaine’s comment is noticeably, at least to me, more…radical?
Well imho the dems need a fire lit under some butts. Harris, Pelosi and Shiff can only do so much. Savage rhetoric got us here, it may take some to get us home.
re: #115 Timothy Watson
But most Democrats have been just saying ‘it needs to be investigated, etc.’ Kaine’s comment is noticeably, at least to me, more…radical?
I think it all changed today. Plus, Kaine was involved directly with being ripped-off by all this. Seems he just decided to play the “heavy” and well he should.
I think you are now going to see more of it from the Democrats because Donny junior handed over his own smoking gun. It just went from no connections revealed yet to we have connection number one…something to work with.
I think the Dems have played this pretty well so far, even if many think they haven’t done enough fast enough. With the TV news people acting like they do these days, the Dems are learning how to not feed them negative stories. They may be actually learning something because of all of this.
re: #96 Blind Frog Belly White
Yeah, but have you taken yourself to lunch recently?
I did yesterday (and my wife) - we went to a Mexican restaurant in Scottsbluff. We skipped the Cambodian restaurant because we went there last time we were in town.
Why I’m suing President Trump for blocking me on Twitter https://t.co/U1u1B7RRGb pic.twitter.com/09Q2orpl2d
— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) July 11, 2017
But having my First Amendment right to free expression curtailed - in so personal a way - stung me. I am excluded from what is probably the most effective form of political speech I’ve ever had.
Every time someone in my bubble says, like I did, “Can he do that?” we have to pause. Is this a norm violation - something that he will “never get away with” politically - like refusing to release his tax returns? Or is it illegal, like renting out Trump Hotel rooms to foreign delegations may turn out to be?
During a period of social flux and upended norms, the law can help. We need legal challenges - conducted in a formal setting where facts matter, where lying is a crime - to establish the boundaries beyond which the outrages of the president and his people go beyond obnoxious and become illegal.
In our lawsuit, lawyers from the Knight First Amendment Institute explain that the president’s Twitter account is a “designated public forum” under the law, and the courts have said the First Amendment prohibits the government from excluding people from such a forum because of their views. In essence, he announced a public space for political speech, and then expunged it of views he finds uncomfortable - including those of myself and the other plaintiffs to the suit. We think that’s more than obnoxious. It’s illegal.
re: #115 Timothy Watson
But most Democrats have been just saying ‘it needs to be investigated, etc.’ Kaine’s comment is noticeably, at least to me, more…
radicaltruthful?
FIFY
re: #120 Unshaken Defiance
Well imho the dems need a fire lit under some butts. Harris, Pelosi and Shiff can only do so much. Savage rhetoric got us here, it may take some to get us home.
I just heard Mark Warner on the evening news, and he was playing it more “we need to interview more people”, etc. but he’s on the Intel Committee so I can understand his reluctance to be more forceful.
re: #123 MsJ
Hmmm. Sounds worth running up the flagpole to see if anyone salutes. Trump is definitely in the public-records sphere.
re: #115 Timothy Watson
But most Democrats have been just saying ‘it needs to be investigated, etc.’ Kaine’s comment is noticeably, at least to me, more…radical?
We need to remind ourselves regularly that there is a difference between the constitutional test of treason and the dictionary definition. You thus can skate on the legal definition and still be a fucking traitor.
Life comes at you at a speedier pace than you might have expected pic.twitter.com/RhOfPE7kLD
— Patrick Monahan (@pattymo) July 11, 2017
I would but I can’t afford a maid like Brooks. I have to make my own gabbagool sammiches.
— gocart mozart (@HarryTuttle11) July 11, 2017
re: #125 Timothy Watson
I just heard Mark Warner on the evening news, and he was playing it more “we need to interview more people”, etc. but he’s on the Intel Committee so I can understand his reluctance to be more forceful.
We’re just hours into this opening of Pandora’s box. Kaine’s clearly taking the lead of righteous indignation, as well he should.
re: #126 petesh
Hmmm. Sounds worth running up the flagpole to see if anyone salutes. Trump is definitely in the public-records sphere.
Mr. Trump has specifically noted his Twitter account is his way to speak to the American people. As such, blocking someone from his Twitter account denies that person access to the government as he has described it.
An analogous idea from an earlier era would be if Franklin Roosevelt set up jammers near the homes of people who did not support him so they could not hear his “Fireside Chats” on the radio.
re: #115 Timothy Watson
But most Democrats have been just saying ‘it needs to be investigated, etc.’ Kaine’s comment is noticeably, at least to me, more…radical?
re: #124 MsJ
FIFY
When 40+% of the country gleefully eats up Big Lies on a daily basis and the media peddles both sides bullshit, the truth is radical.
re: #129 gocart mozart
what, and cut into my avocado toast and pink Himalayan salt budget?
re: #63 Anymouse 🌹
Recommended reading on the power and appeal of falsehoods; George R. R. Martin’s SF short story, The Way of The Cross and The Dragon. Where some one makes a saint of Judas Iscariot.
Betty Cracker over at Balloon Juice has some great advice. The way to drive Trump over the edge is to make sure that Trumpcare gets torpedoed and sunk. Don’t forget to call your senators and put the pressure on.
I’m not saying don’t pay attention to the emails that portray Uday as an eager collaborator with a hostile foreign power — hell yes, pay attention to it. But the Republican Party Before Country Party will be an immovable obstacle to clearing out the nest of traitors in the White House until it is made clear to them that Trump is a useless impediment.
Hand the Republicans a stinging defeat on healthcare, brand Trumpcare with the “LOSER” label, and Trump will come unglued. When Trump comes unglued, he lashes out. When he lashes out, Trump hits indiscriminately, sometimes smacking GOP senators, which makes fellow Republicans frown.
The Replies: When a respected Three Star General begs you to stop embarrassing yourself. pic.twitter.com/M4FhazVTiJ
— Yashar Ali (@yashar) July 11, 2017
posted especially for BeachDem
Meanwhile in Texas, score one for the cops:
Back again with the excuse of “he (maybe) had something in his hand and we were afraid”
ARLINGTON
A suicidal man who had doused himself in gasoline became engulfed in flames at an Arlington home Monday after an officer used a stun gun on him, police said.
The officer who used the Taser on the man believed that the man was holding a lighter in his hand and was about to use it, police spokeswoman Sgt. VaNessa Harrison said at a news conference.
Harrison acknowledged the risk of using an electrical stun gun near gasoline, but said the man was “very frantic and erratic and became a danger to everyone in the room.”
“We realize that a Taser can have some other implications, but we also know he had something in his hand,” Harrison said. “It’s unclear at this moment whether he became engulfed in flames from the gasoline and ignitable object he had in his hand or from the Taser.”
More at the newspaper link above. The man’s condition in hospital is unknown, and three police officers were taken to hospital for smoke inhalation.
re: #116 BlackPearl
David Brooks - east coast provincialist to the core.
And every bit as condescending as the straw “liberals” he loves to whack down. What a shocker.. //
I went to the NYT site and read all of Brooks’ Op-Ed piece, and it’s all so damned boringly predictable. He actually started off with a reasonable (if fairly trite) thesis about how poor(er) folks are missing out on educational opportunities because the “upper middle class” are obsessively hogging them. But then, being David Brooks, he just had to put his foot on the gas, and speed right down the offramp to Stupid Anecdote Land. As usual, hoked up with some inane food analogy to beat those snobby hipster liberals with their “correct” strollers….
I think Mr. Brooks ought to feel grateful, in this instance, that the NYT doesn’t enable comments for his columns….
Connect the dots, la la la
June 7 - 5:16 PM - Don Jr. confirms meeting w/ Russian lawyer
June 7 - 9:13 PM Trump promises press conf the next week with Clinton dirt. pic.twitter.com/qAYEvymsdV— Yashar Ali (@yashar) July 11, 2017
The idea of anyone being befuddled by lunch meat is absurd to me. Especially lunch meat with Italian names. It’s pretty much a natural law that any Italian lunch meat is automatically delicious.
re: #137 Anymouse 🌹
Meanwhile in Texas, score one for the cops:
Back again with the excuse of “he (maybe) had something in his hand and we were afraid”
More at the newspaper link above. The man’s condition in hospital is unknown, and three police officers were taken to hospital for smoke inhalation.
What happens when you don’t know science.
So, Joe Scarborough is now just a shitty human being. Not a shitty human being who is also a Republican.
— William K. Wolfrum (@Wolfrum) July 11, 2017
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) July 11, 2017
re: #140 No Depression
The idea of anyone being befuddled by lunch meat is absurd to me. Especially lunch meat with Italian names. It’s pretty much a natural law that any Italian lunch meat is automatically delicious.
Right! You are only going to have a problem if you, say, don’t eat pork and don’t know what the names mean. Otherwise, it’s literally all good.
But what about HIS emails? 🤔
An early look at Wednesday’s front page: https://t.co/hAiifG3l6c pic.twitter.com/e9YEZqIqjo— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) July 11, 2017
There is REALLY something wrong with these hard core Trumpanzees. It’s like a reflex to be as stupid and backward as possible. pic.twitter.com/hT70oNJEgo
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 11, 2017
Can you imagine? Look at the people in the pool. pic.twitter.com/fr574730yD
— Yashar Ali (@yashar) July 11, 2017
re: #135 stpaulbear
Betty Cracker over at Balloon Juice has some great advice. The way to drive Trump over the edge is to make sure that Trumpcare gets torpedoed and sunk. Don’t forget to call your senators and put the pressure on.
I just sent this email to Robby Portman. Hidden if not interested.
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The subject line of Fredo’s email was “Clinton-Russia CONFIDENTIAL.”
re: #80 jaunte
it’s pretty obvious you don’t really have a clue as to what working class means.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) July 11, 2017
I guess the question for the GOP will be whether they hate Obama and the working poor more than they love rich people.
BREAKING: Leading Senate Republican says revised GOP health care bill will likely retain Obama tax boosts on wealthier Americans.
— The Associated Press (@AP) July 11, 2017
I can’t imagine this going over very well with their paymasters.
re: #148 gocart mozart
Can you imagine? Look at the people in the pool.
Damn elephant is like “This water tastes terrible. Did you a-holes pee in the pond?”
re: #150 Ace Rothstein
The subject line of Fredo’s email was “Clinton-Russia CONFIDENTIAL.”
Well maybe he was saying that Clinton colluded with Russia to make it look like Trump was colluding with Russia. /
re: #146 Ace Rothstein
How long until BLOTUS blows his top?
He might do what his son did today and incriminate himself whilst in a rage and fury during tomorrow morning’s shitter tweetstorm.
Trump, Jr. smart to release emails. Tabloid guy set him up w Russian lawyer who promised Hillary dirt. She didn’t deliver. That’s the story.
— Bill O’Reilly (@billoreilly) July 11, 2017
Like on “Catch a Predator” when guy walks in with his junk out, “non-delivery” wasn’t due to @DonaldJTrumpJr’s lack of intent or overt acts. https://t.co/FVpVBBQLyy
— Col. Morris Davis (@ColMorrisDavis) July 11, 2017
re: #141 Belafon
What happens when you don’t know science.
Arlington, Texas is where the home office of American Mensa is located. I’m guessing this guy is not a member.
Who knew setting someone on fire would send you to the hospital for smoke inhalation?
re: #156 FormerDirtDart
No Spin News on billoreilly.com . #1 in cable news for 15+ years. America’s bestselling historian. Loving father.
So loving, he dragged his wife down the stairs by her throat in front of their daughter.
re: #149 ObserverArt
I just sent this email to Robby Portman. Hidden if not interested.
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I will call Rand Paul’s office again to remind him to vote no on Obamacare Lite, since I don’t care why he votes no as long as he does.
Breitbart London Editor on @DonaldJTrumpJr Emails: “So, like, this is straight up collusion, right?” #EvenTheyGetIt https://t.co/mnfvsu7KiV
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) July 11, 2017
The discord at Breitbart brings a tear to my eye lol. Guess they need to do some mass firings in another purity movement.
The real treason that will shock the world will not be that they took Russian help.
It how they planned to destroy democracy.— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) July 11, 2017
Holy cow, this thread! Read it…read it right now. Seriously. Go on. https://t.co/ojdTHDWCTC
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) July 11, 2017
re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White
I guess the question for the GOP will be whether they hate Obama and the working poor more than they love rich people.
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I can’t imagine this going over very well with their paymasters.
You know they are getting desperate to pass something they can call “repeal and replace” when they go so far as to retain the ACA tax increases.
And Michael told Kay that the Corleone family would be completely legitimate in five years.
— Ace Rothstein (@BillyBatts1970) July 11, 2017
re: #156 FormerDirtDart
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Someone tell BillO that it’s still sexual harassment even if you DON’T get her promoted, like you promised you would, after she puts out.
Chris Matthews asked Senator Amy Klobuchar if Trump will fire Mueller?
Her answer was what she claimed Lindsey Graham said regarding all that: “Lindsey Graham has said if he (Trump) does that, it will be the end of him.”
Is that a line in the sand, or what?
re: #150 Ace Rothstein
The subject line of Fredo’s email was “Clinton-Russia CONFIDENTIAL.”
He’s saying he forgot all about the meeting on Hannity.
Huge credibility problem trumpito.
re: #166 ObserverArt
Chris Matthews asked Senator Amy Klobuchar if Trump will fire Mueller?
Her answer was what she claimed Lindsey Graham said regarding all that: “Lindsey Graham has said if he (Trump) does that, it will be the end of him.”
Is that a line in the sand, or what?
Lindsey? Nah. Now, if McConnell said it….
Worth tweeting out in full. pic.twitter.com/Pg8lthk4bC
— Hans-Inge Langø (@hilango) July 11, 2017
I found this fancy bottled water that already has cucumber in it but I’m also Mexican so I don’t know if I can lunch w/David Brooks or not.
— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) July 11, 2017
re: #116 BlackPearl
I have 2 engineering degrees, have been to Italy 5 times, and have no idea what sopressata is. (nor can I figure it out from my conversational Italian or high school French - I could look it up but can’t be bothered)
Cause I’m middle class from the west coast, where we have no good Italian delis. Weep for me. :)
David Brooks - east coast provincialist to the core.
Since I don’t have any degrees and my wife won’t share hers, can I have one of yours? /s
re: #160 Big Beautiful Door
I will call Rand Paul’s office again to remind him to vote no on Obamacare Lite, since I don’t care why he votes no as long as he does.
That’s the spirit!
re: #167 Stanley Sea
He’s saying he forgot all about the meeting on Hannity.
Huge credibility problem trumpito.
He said that?
Did Donald Trump Jr. break the law by meeting with Russians to gain dirt on Clinton? https://t.co/kzlTaJz4GT pic.twitter.com/aV6Bf5cPxr
— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) July 11, 2017
Along w the legal explainers, I’d be grateful for commentary on the morality, ethics, and wisdom of his, Kushner’s, and Manafort’s conduct. https://t.co/UFgtqoEF5Y
— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) July 11, 2017
A party that has no official problem w secret sponsorship by a foreign adversary, save for any crimes proved, no longer serves the republic.
— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) July 11, 2017
“In retrospect I probably would have done things a little differently” pic.twitter.com/emLJoXZ0wH
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 11, 2017
re: #105 jaunte
It’s not a complete lunch experience until you speculate in front of a national audience about his fear of an unfamiliar menu item.
I’ll settle for the media to interview one Clinton supporter (instead of all the disillusioned Trump supporters - have they found one on Tristan de Cunha yet to interview).
I’m still here, CNN - come interview me.
re: #156 FormerDirtDart
Trump, Jr. smart to release emails. Tabloid guy set him up w Russian lawyer who promised Hillary dirt. She didn’t deliver. That’s the story.
— Bill O’Reilly (@billoreilly) July 11, 2017
“Dear members of the Jury you can’t convict my client on this soliciting charge because he says the sex worker he approached never put out.” https://t.co/4A02fDRjR9
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 11, 2017
re: #166 ObserverArt
Chris Matthews asked Senator Amy Klobuchar if Trump will fire Mueller?
Her answer was what she claimed Lindsey Graham said regarding all that: “Lindsey Graham has said if he (Trump) does that, it will be the end of him.”
Is that a line in the sand, or what?
We need about 24 Republican House members (preferably including someone from leadership) to pass articles of impeachment. Then we need 19 Republican Senators to vote to convict. Assuming in both occasions the Democratic caucuses hold. I don’t know enough about the House members to comment on them, but in the Senate I could see at least McCain, Graham, Cruz, and Rubio voting to convict out of spite, if nothing else. There are probably some “moderate” Republicans (Collins, Portman, Heller, Flake) that can be convinced to vote to convict as well. Peeling off more probably depends on how many House Republicans vote to impeach. If the ayes in the House exceed 300, Trump’s probably toast.
re: #161 Myron Falwell
Ha! It gets better.
Breitbart editor in public vs. Breitbart editor in private pic.twitter.com/SasemMirU2
— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) July 11, 2017
WOW: @krauthammer tears apart @foxnews host and other conservatives who are defending Don Jr’s Russia meeting. pic.twitter.com/kREE1Jytbk
— igorvolsky (@igorvolsky) July 11, 2017
Krauthammer looks uncharacteristically good, until he says, ‘Until today there was no ‘there’ there.’
re: #168 Blind Frog Belly White
Lindsey? Nah. Now, if McConnell said it….
I keep in mind that Lindsey was stepped on by Trump in the primaries to the point he gave out his cell phone number.
What a better way to get a payback. He and the rest of them (Rubio, Cruz, Paul) can all get in some licks…and still be spineless doing it. They go in for the group gang up.
re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White
I guess the question for the GOP will be whether they hate Obama and the working poor more than they love rich people.
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I can’t imagine this going over very well with their paymasters.
My guess is that the tax boosts are very scaled down to cover a much smaller set of benefits. Don’t believe anything until the actual proposal is published and available for analysis by the public
Well when that shoe fits…👠👠👠👡 pic.twitter.com/nPxkVK3rbp
— TBSucksatscience (@TBDroneblade) July 11, 2017
re: #171 Anymouse 🌹
Since I don’t have any degrees and my wife won’t share hers, can I have one of yours? /s
Dude, if your wife won’t share with you, I don’t see why I should have to. :)
re: #173 Ace Rothstein
He said that?
Something like, “it was nothing, I forgot about it after”
Need the video.
I have a feeling Trump is now across a threshold backed into a tight corner where he feels he is now at war with most of the American People. He will now start doing things spitefully dangerous for this country. It is now past the time for Articles of Impeachment to be quickly drawn up and passed by a united Congress and remove this malignant stain from office.
Prison awaits.
.@JoeNBC just announced during @colbertlateshow taping that he’s leaving GOP. Now an Independent. Watch tonight at 11:35 on @CBS
— Chris Licht (@ChrisLicht) July 11, 2017
re: #181 ObserverArt
I keep in mind that Lindsey was stepped on by Trump in the primaries to the point he gave out his cell phone number.
What a better way to get a payback. He and the rest of them (Rubio, Cruz, Paul) can all get in some licks…and still be spineless doing it. They go in for the group gang up.
Cruz has shown that he doesn’t care. He’s the worst kind of Toady.
re: #180 wrenchwench
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Krauthammer looks uncharacteristically good, until he says, ‘Until today there was no ‘there’ there.’
I kind of wish that clip was about 30 seconds longer at the end, I want to see how the host deflected.
re: #184 BlackPearl
Dude, if your wife won’t share with you, I don’t see why I should have to. :)
I suppose that makes sense. I guess I’ll have to do without.
I have to go to the general store tomorrow to buy a case of Clorox (spellcheck wants to put “chloroform” there) so I can put it in the water system. (Clorox is allowed.)
I’ve already gotten a couple calls at home saying “my water smells like bleach.”
I went to the post office and spoke to the postmistress and gun shop owner to explain what was going on. Hopefully they can get the word out.
I’ll probably have to go round town tomorrow with handbills explaining why I am chlorinating the water system.
re: #180 wrenchwench
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Krauthammer looks uncharacteristically good, until he says, ‘Until today there was no ‘there’ there.’
Well, I wasn’t really expecting Sour Kraut to publicly renounce the entirety of his conservative beliefs in a rage quit.
re: #180 wrenchwench
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Krauthammer looks uncharacteristically good, until he says, ‘Until today there was no ‘there’ there.’
Look at her face. She is not happy with the crypt keeper.
re: #22 goddamnedfrank
In Trump’s case, a filet mignon that has been cooked to hockey puck consistency. He’s toast. @goddamnedfrank
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 11, 2017
Meanwhile, for the laugh of the day… Junior:
No, he wouldn’t. He would still have met with the Russians. He just wouldn’t have done the email or released it. Too incriminating.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 11, 2017
re: #191 Myron Falwell
Well, I wasn’t really expecting Sour Kraut to publicly renounce the entirety of his conservative beliefs in a rage quit.
I will give him that, since this is the first clear sign of fire behind all of the smoke.
re: #193 lawhawk
In Trump’s case, a filet mignon that has been cooked to hockey puck consistency. He’s toast.
Just the way Trump likes it?
Or, so Junior’s a TrumpSteak?
re: #188 HappyWarrior
Cruz has shown that he doesn’t care. He’s the worst kind of Toady.
Interesting thought experiment:
Trump gets impeached and removed, Pence becomes president. First question: who does Pence nominate as VP? Second question: who challenges Pence in the 2020 primary?
There’s so many ways this could play out. I could see Pence offering VP to Cruz to secure a vote to convict (I don’t think Pence is Machiavellian enough for such a move, but still). I could see Cruz rejecting the offer, thinking he could challenge Pence in 2020 and win the nomination (maybe by then the Trump stench is so bad that even the GOP base will not want to vote for someone who was picked by Trump). If Pence as the sitting president is challenged in the 2020 primary, that’s most likely a sign that the Democrats will win the general (see 1968, 1976, 1992)
re: #186 Rocky-in-Connecticut
I have a feeling Trump is now across a threshold backed into a tight corner where he feels he is now at war with most of the American People. He will now start doing things spitefully dangerous for this country. It is now past the time for Articles of Impeachment to be quickly drawn up and passed by a united Congress and remove this malignant stain from office.
Prison awaits.
He’s definitely going into bunker mode. He will become more sullen and snap at everyone about everything. Everyone will see less and less of him, and he will do everything out of the eyes of the press and Americans. I bet he even slows the tweets.
Hey, that sounds sort of like another president back in 1973/4.
re: #188 HappyWarrior
Cruz has shown that he doesn’t care. He’s the worst kind of Toady.
He already threw his wife and father under the bus for Mr. Trump.
(Cruz’s superpac did start it, with its billboard in Utah of Melania Trump in lingerie asking if that was the sort of First Lady Utah voters wanted.)
Evening Lizards
Airport Security: Please remove your shoes and place them in—
Donald Trump Jr: There’s 3 grams of cocaine hidden up my ass!
re: #196 KGxvi
Interesting thought experiment:
Trump gets impeached and removed, Pence becomes president. First question: who does Pence nominate as VP? Second question: who challenges Pence in the 2020 primary?
There’s so many ways this could play out. I could see Pence offering VP to Cruz to secure a vote to convict (I don’t think Pence is Machiavellian enough for such a move, but still). I could see Cruz rejecting the offer, thinking he could challenge Pence in 2020 and win the nomination (maybe by then the Trump stench is so bad that even the GOP base will not want to vote for someone who was picked by Trump). If Pence as the sitting president is challenged in the 2020 primary, that’s most likely a sign that the Democrats will win the general (see 1968, 1976, 1992)
That’s a good question. I honestly don’t know who Pence would pick. I suspect a like minded Fundie though.
re: #198 Anymouse 🌹
He already threw his wife and father under the bus for Mr. Trump.
(Cruz’s superpac did start it, with its billboard in Utah of Melania Trump in lingerie asking if that was the sort of First Lady Utah voters wanted.)
Yeah that was pretty sleazy of them. OTOH, Trump has since implied that his father was involved with the Kennedy assassination and as big of a shitbag that Rafael Cruz is, that was horseshit.
re: #188 HappyWarrior
Cruz has shown that he doesn’t care. He’s the worst kind of Toady.
If the gang goes against Trump, Cruz will tag-along. He doesn’t have any backbone. He will follow the larger group safely.
Plus…would you trust him to stand by you?
re: #199 b.d.
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Oh yes, Chris Harwick and friends will have fun with this.
re: #202 ObserverArt
If the gang goes against Trump, Cruz will tag-along. He doesn’t have any backbone. He will follow the larger group safely.
Plus…would you trust him to stand by you?
If I were near Cruz, I’d hope to grow eyes behind my head.
re: #200 HappyWarrior
That’s a good question. I honestly don’t know who Pence would pick. I suspect a like minded Fundie though.
Brownback is looking for a gig.
re: #196 KGxvi
Interesting thought experiment:
Trump gets impeached and removed, Pence becomes president. First question: who does Pence nominate as VP? Second question: who challenges Pence in the 2020 primary?
There’s so many ways this could play out. I could see Pence offering VP to Cruz to secure a vote to convict (I don’t think Pence is Machiavellian enough for such a move, but still). I could see Cruz rejecting the offer, thinking he could challenge Pence in 2020 and win the nomination (maybe by then the Trump stench is so bad that even the GOP base will not want to vote for someone who was picked by Trump). If Pence as the sitting president is challenged in the 2020 primary, that’s most likely a sign that the Democrats will win the general (see 1968, 1976, 1992)
Pence should not survive nor any of the picks to agencies or the SCOTUS.
📈 Top lookups in order: collusion, treason, collude, quid pro quo, kakistocracy
— Merriam-Webster (@MerriamWebster) July 11, 2017
re: #196 KGxvi
Interesting thought experiment:
Trump gets impeached and removed, Pence becomes president. First question: who does Pence nominate as VP? Second question: who challenges Pence in the 2020 primary?
There’s so many ways this could play out. I could see Pence offering VP to Cruz to secure a vote to convict (I don’t think Pence is Machiavellian enough for such a move, but still). I could see Cruz rejecting the offer, thinking he could challenge Pence in 2020 and win the nomination (maybe by then the Trump stench is so bad that even the GOP base will not want to vote for someone who was picked by Trump). If Pence as the sitting president is challenged in the 2020 primary, that’s most likely a sign that the Democrats will win the general (see 1968, 1976, 1992)
Well, the only previous example we have is Nixon.
The GOP cannot get a VP replacement through the Senate without some Democratic votes. As in the Nixon case, one would expect a Republican President to nominate a Republican. As such, Gerald Ford was nominated after Spiro Agnew went down because Democrats found him agreeable. The same goes with Ford’s VP Nelson Rockefeller.
Anyone Mike Pence puts up is going to have to be something less than a Dominionist wingnut.
re: #200 HappyWarrior
That’s a good question. I honestly don’t know who Pence would pick. I suspect a like minded Fundie though.
Any new VP has to be confirmed by a majority of both the House and the Senate. The disarray following actual impeachment and removal of a president makes gaming out how that confirmation vote would go nearly impossible.
Something nice because it’s nice to remember there are good things in the world:
Fraternity brothers say “I do” after 10-year romancehttps://t.co/GeYN7D0r8V pic.twitter.com/PQIrpfqmRf
— NBC Out (@NBCOUT) July 11, 2017
At 13 I realized I was gay.. and told myself I prob would never know love.
Today I am happy to say I was wrong🤴🏽🤴🏽 https://t.co/9070sZExOK— RustinBrother (@HarrisonGuy) July 11, 2017
re: #210 KGxvi
Any new VP has to be confirmed by a majority of both the House and the Senate. The disarray following actual impeachment and removal of a president makes gaming out how that confirmation vote would go nearly impossible.
Which is how we were fortunate to get Ford.
8 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. law.cornell.edu
18 U.S. Code § 2382 - Misprision of treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both. law.cornell.edu
Might this apply?
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
d) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; law.cornell.edu
re: #202 ObserverArt
If the gang goes against Trump, Cruz will tag-along. He doesn’t have any backbone. He will follow the larger group safely.
Plus…would you trust him to stand by you?
No doubt Cruz failed spectacularly with “trust falls.”
re: #211 klys (maker of Silmarils)
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re: #209 Anymouse 🌹
Well, the only previous example we have is Nixon.
The GOP cannot get a VP replacement through the Senate without some Democratic votes. As in the Nixon case, one would expect a Republican President to nominate a Republican. As such, Gerald Ford was nominated after Spiro Agnew went down because Democrats found him agreeable. The same goes with Ford’s VP Nelson Rockefeller.
Anyone Mike Pence puts up is going to have to be something less than a Dominionist wingnut.
It’s a simple majority in both Houses, so if Pence nominates a Republican senator, if all the Republicans in the Senate vote for him (and assuming he abstains) that’s 51. But that means they can’t lose anyone else in the Senate. I do agree though, that there’s no way it can be a socon fundy.
re: #192 MsJ
Look at her face. She is not happy with the crypt keeper.
That’s his swan song on the Fox Propaganda Channel.
re: #149 ObserverArt
I stepped away for dinner but wanted to say that your letter to your senator was really well put. Not mad at all. Laid out what you wanted him to do.
My senators are Franken & Klobuchar so I tried calling McConnell’s office. Voice mail box was full.
re: #208 MsJ
Kakistocracy is one of my favorites: a nation/jurisdiction run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous person(s). That entirely defines Trump and his cabal of cronies.
Cabal being another one of my favorites these days (because cabal of cronies just rolls off the tongue… and wait, it too could make a great band name).
re: #206 MsJ
Pence should not survive nor any of the picks to agencies or the SCOTUS.
Doesn’t work that way.
re: #211 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Something nice because it’s nice to remember there are good things in the world:
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re: #221 Big Beautiful Door
Doesn’t work that way.
Tell me he had no idea about Russia? I don’t buy that for a single, solitary second.
1/2 I believe that when the full story of the plots and schemes of this monstrous administration led by a greedy crime family is …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 12, 2017
2/2 finally known, it’s going to appall even those people who pride themselves on being un-shockable.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 12, 2017
re: #223 MsJ
Tell me he had no idea about Russia? I don’t buy that for a single, solitary second.
If Mueller gets proof against Pence, he can be indicted like Agnew. Gorsuch, however, is on the Court for life.
re: #224 Charles Johnson
The pee tape exists!
Trump deserves many more golden showers from his friend Vlad for defending Mother Russia pic.twitter.com/NpfiaV50vM
— Vic Berger IV (@VicBergerIV) January 11, 2017
re: #225 Big Beautiful Door
If Mueller gets proof against Pence, he can be indicted like Agnew. Gorsuch, however, is on the Court for life.
Agh. I’ll never get over that. That seat was totally stolen and I hope Gorsuch’s conscience should he have one bothers him on that.
re: #217 KGxvi
It’s a simple majority in both Houses, so if Pence nominates a Republican senator, if all the Republicans in the Senate vote for him (and assuming he abstains) that’s 51. But that means they can’t lose anyone else in the Senate. I do agree though, that there’s no way it can be a socon fundy.
Can a putative candidate for VP vote for him- or herself?
My only experience here is on my village board. When someone is put up for a position, they must abstain. (For example, when I was put up for Flag Committee chair, charged with ensuring the US Flag is properly displayed on village property and maintaining flags and equipment, I was required to abstain since I am on the board. Does this apply to the House and Senate - considering that VP is a paid position?)
re: #227 HappyWarrior
Agh. I’ll never get over that. That seat was totally stolen and I hope Gorsuch’s conscience should he have one bothers him on that.
I doubt he has one, based on the extremely dishonest dissent he recently wrote trying to limit the marital rights of same sex couples.
re: #228 Anymouse 🌹
Can a putative candidate for VP vote for him- or herself?
My only experience here is on my village board. When someone is put up for a position, they must abstain. (For example, when I was put up for Flag Committee chair, charged with ensuring the US Flag is properly displayed on village property and maintaining flags and equipment, I was required to abstain since I am on the board. Does this apply to the House and Senate - considering that VP is a paid position?)
Pretty sure they can.
re: #206 MsJ
Pence should not survive nor any of the picks to agencies or the SCOTUS.
re: #221 Big Beautiful Door
Doesn’t work that way.
At the rate this is going, Trump may incriminate Pence in a series of rage tweets as the walls close in.
Pence is doing the “deny, deny, deny” game, but he won’t be able to do it forever.
re: #229 Big Beautiful Door
I doubt he has one, based on the extremely dishonest dissent he recently wrote trying to limit the marital rights of same sex couples.
Yeah I doubt he does too. He’s a shitty person just like Scalia was. I don’t care that RBG was friends with Scalia. Scalia was an asshole.
re: #225 Big Beautiful Door
If Mueller gets proof against Pence, he can be indicted like Agnew. Gorsuch, however, is on the Court for life.
Trump under investigation for fucking treason - and it comes to pass that he is indicted, etc. - and we have to live with the SCOTUS choice? I hope someone sues the government.
re: #234 MsJ
Trump under investigation for fucking treason - and it comes to pass that he is indicted, etc. - and we have to live with the SCOTUS choice? I hope someone sues the government.
We are definitely in uncharted territory here. No one questioned President Nixon’s Supreme Court appointments - Watergate didn’t involve foreign meddling in our election.
re: #233 Anymouse 🌹
Ask Spiro Agnew how that worked out for him… .
Agnew was indicted for his own crimes. Mueller has to find something on Pence to indict him; impeaching Trump just makes Pence President otherwise.
re: #225 Big Beautiful Door
If Mueller gets proof against Pence, he can be indicted like Agnew. Gorsuch, however, is on the Court for life.
Here’s a scary thought. Say Gorsuck was in on this scam by Trump, his cabal, and the Russian goons all along… making himself complict.
Okay, I’ll take the tinfoil hat off.
re: #236 Big Beautiful Door
Agnew was indicted for his own crimes. Mueller has to find something on Pence to indict him; impeaching Trump just makes Pence President otherwise.
Indiana is already investigating Mike Pence for using both his own and his wife’s AOL accounts for official state business. Pence may well go to court on state charges there.
Dan Rather: “We the American people deserve to know what in God’s name is happening … Which side of history will you be on?” pic.twitter.com/pM8aJXK34H
— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) July 11, 2017
re: #238 Anymouse 🌹
Indiana is already investigating Mike Pence for using both his own and his wife’s AOL accounts for official state business. Pence may well go to court on state charges there.
But her emails!
See also the Washington Post analysis of Mike Pence’s problems in Indiana regarding his AOL (and his wife) account:
No public events tomorrow on Trump’s schedule except for his departure to Paris in the evening pic.twitter.com/gF0dzUqaRj
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) July 11, 2017
For 3rd straight day… https://t.co/PRAQsuGDBK
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) July 12, 2017
re: #223 MsJ
Tell me he had no idea about Russia? I don’t buy that for a single, solitary second.
Pence is going to show up as a CC in someone’s email.
re: #242 Stanley Sea
“…except for (Trump’s) departure to Paris in the evening”
To seek asylum? Interesting choice.
re: #136 Stanley Sea
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She never fails to deliver on being Kayleigh McInidiot, does she?
Thanks.
re: #246 Myron Falwell
“…except for (Trump’s) departure to Paris in the evening”
To seek asylum? Interesting choice.
“Breaking news from the newsdesk at CNN. President Trump has barricaded himself in the Russian embassy here in Paris.”
re: #248 Timothy Watson
“Breaking news from the newsdesk at CNN. President Trump has barricaded himself in the Russian embassy here in Paris.”
The sequel to Woody Allen’s Don’t Drink the Water that no one knew they needed.
re: #145 FormerDirtDart
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Have to say, Rob Goldstone was all that was missing from this cast of characters until now.
re: #250 BeachDem
Have to say, Rob Goldstone was all that was missing from this cast of characters until now.
Right out of central casting.
So, the date of this meeting was June 9, 2016 in the afternoon.
Let’s see what else was going on that day. Trump was still dealing with the fallout from his comments on Judge Curiel, and craven GOPers were still willing to give him support despite the evidence Trump lacked the character or judgment to be President.
GOPers were waiting for the pivot. Yeah, they’re still waiting because it’s never gonna happen.
Trump had a meeting with a bunch of high powered GOP lobbyists:
Scoop from @timkmak —-> Trump is meeting with powerful lobbyists tomorrow at Trump Tower https://t.co/MOo2zLeRQG pic.twitter.com/i6u8l5nILp
— Andrew Desiderio (@desiderioDC) June 9, 2016
Reince was in the building as well.
.@Reince just entered Trump Tower for a meeting with @realDonaldTrump and donors.
— Candace Smith (@CandaceSmith_) June 9, 2016
re: #151 Belafon
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Every time somebody posts that Megan McArdle tweet, I am gobsmacked at how incredibly condescending is this line:
“how many of you have taken a genuine working class person to lunch?”
She almost makes David, king of condescension, look like Everyman. (and Peggy Noonan is crying in her gin because she once met a Mexican…or some sort of South American person.)
re: #253 BeachDem
Every time somebody posts that Megan McArdle tweet, I am gobsmacked at how incredibly condescending is this line:
She almost makes David, king of condescension, look like Everyman. (and Peggy Noonan is crying in her gin because she once met a Mexican…or some sort of South American person.)
Who among us has not looked with envy at the simpler lives of the working class?
//
re: #253 BeachDem
Every time somebody posts that Megan McArdle tweet, I am gobsmacked at how incredibly condescending is this line:
She almost makes David, king of condescension, look like Everyman. (and Peggy Noonan is crying in her gin because she once met a Mexican…or some sort of South American person.)
What’s exactly “working class” nowadays? Does it require manual labor? If not, I was making $28,500 or so in February 2016. (I’m making $51,000 now.)
re: #225 Big Beautiful Door
If Mueller gets proof against Pence, he can be indicted like Agnew. Gorsuch, however, is on the Court for life.
If Trump is dirty, Pence is dirtier. The Russian influence operation had been targeting fundies a lot longer than it had been targeting Trump. Pence could not have escaped their notice. Ryan is also likely to be dirty, at least for gross negligence and failure to report what he knew.
I think we’ll end up with Hatch as president.
re: #256 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
If Trump is dirty, Pence is dirtier. The Russian influence operation had been targeting fundies a lot longer than it had been targeting Trump. Pence could not have escaped their notice. Ryan is also likely to be dirty, at least for gross negligence and failure to report what he knew.
I think we’ll end up with Hatch as president.
McConnell, too. Remember them both laughing about Putin paying Trump? I do. They are all treasonous bastards.
re: #256 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
If Trump is dirty, Pence is dirtier. The Russian influence operation had been targeting fundies a lot longer than it had been targeting Trump. Pence could not have escaped their notice. Ryan is also likely to be dirty, at least for gross negligence and failure to report what he knew.
I think we’ll end up with Hatch as president.
This fucking guy?
Take a look at 2003 coverage of Judge Janice Brown’s confirmation, when Hatch was serving a Judiciary Chairman— https://t.co/ilQHGTW8yD
— Senator Hatch Office (@senorrinhatch) July 8, 2017
We can only hope that @SenateDems will treat @POTUS @realDonaldTrump’s conservative nominees better than Judge Brown, @senorrinhatch. https://t.co/uDvLphbNeL
— Justin Lucas (@reelectgop) July 8, 2017
The Gorsuch confirmation was a pretty good indication that their playbook hasn’t changed. https://t.co/S23prhQKpI
— Senator Hatch Office (@senorrinhatch) July 8, 2017
re: #250 BeachDem
Have to say, Rob Goldstone was all that was missing from this cast of characters until now.
I just realized Goldstone might be in the funky video by the Russian “pop star” Emin. I think he’s the dude in the long hair wig one the left of the big conference table. This is the video Trump was in at the end.
EMIN In Another Life Official Music Video ft. Donald Trump and Miss Universe 2013 Contestants.
Crappy music.
re: #255 Timothy Watson
What’s exactly “working class” nowadays? Does it require manual labor? If not, I was making $28,500 or so in February 2016. (I’m making $51,000 now.)
Defining “Class” in America is an entire genre of Sociology. There is no one set of answers, though most self-identify as Middle Class.
re: #259 ObserverArt
I just realized Goldstone might be in the funky video by the Russian “pop star” Emin. I think he’s the dude in the long hair wig one the left of the big conference table. This is the video Trump was in at the end.
EMIN In Another Life Official Music Video ft. Donald Trump and Miss Universe 2013 Contestants.
Crappy music.
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I’m not watching it and you can’t make me!!!
re: #259 ObserverArt
I listened to the whole video. I notice he doesn’t know how to play the piano and I doubt that is him singing. No wonder Trump is involved.
re: #256 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
If Trump is dirty, Pence is dirtier. The Russian influence operation had been targeting fundies a lot longer than it had been targeting Trump. Pence could not have escaped their notice. Ryan is also likely to be dirty, at least for gross negligence and failure to report what he knew.
I think we’ll end up with Hatch as president.
Senator Dipsy-Doodle?
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