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darthstar  Jul 11, 2017 • 8:39:35pm

Colbert did great with that monologue but you can tell he wishes there was something else to talk about…we all do I suppose.

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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2017 • 8:43:27pm

So in June ‘16, the DNC began a clandestine mission to use allegations of collusion between the Russian gov’t and the Trump campaign to defeat Trump in the election…which is why they let the matter simmer and did nothing to expose the Trumps until after the election.

Totally believable./////

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darthstar  Jul 11, 2017 • 8:44:08pm

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 11, 2017 • 8:47:03pm
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Kragar  Jul 11, 2017 • 8:49:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 11, 2017 • 8:49:56pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

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The RR will embrace anyone who kisses their ass enough.

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LoonRadio  Jul 11, 2017 • 8:53:33pm

I’m writing a book: “Great Facepalms of History.” I think I have Chapter 1.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 11, 2017 • 8:54:00pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

Yaaaaayyyyyy a bunch of old, crotchety, angry white males praying to their Dominionist God, the only God that matters to them.

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freetoken  Jul 11, 2017 • 8:55:17pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

If anything good can come out of the Trump experience, hopefully when he goes down he’ll take the other con-artists with him.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 11, 2017 • 8:55:47pm
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jaunte  Jul 11, 2017 • 8:55:57pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

“Squint hard, people, we’re deep in a hole.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 11, 2017 • 8:57:37pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

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This is what I expect from these asshole Pulpit Pimps. Time to take them off of welfare and tax the churches!

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retired cynic  Jul 11, 2017 • 8:59:52pm

re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

This is what I expect from these asshole Pulpit Pimps. Time to take them off of welfare and tax the churches!

I agree with you, but I don’t believe it will happen.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:02:52pm

re: #13 retired cynic

I agree with you, but I don’t believe it will happen.

No, but what will continue—more and more people will walk out of churches and never go back.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:06:44pm

re: #8 Myron Falwell

Yaaaaayyyyyy a bunch of old, crotchety, angry white males praying to their Dominionist God, the only God that matters to them.

Wait, wait, wait. I do see a black hand in there.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:15:34pm

re: #15 Ace Rothstein

Wait, wait, wait. I do see a black hand in there.

Sure looks like Creflo $ with that big gold Pulpit Pimp Ring on his finger!

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jaunte  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:16:47pm
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jaunte  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:18:40pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:19:33pm

re: #17 jaunte

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Considering all the ways that we’ve been lied to about this meeting, if you honestly buy that all that was discussed was adoptions, then you’re hopelessly gullible.

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jaunte  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:20:53pm

re: #19 Targetpractice

Based on the evidence so far, we have to assume that no statements from the White House can be trusted.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:22:00pm

These people are scumbags of the highest level. Those who enable them, even worse.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:24:22pm

re: #15 Ace Rothstein

Wait, wait, wait. I do see a black hand in there.

My uneducated guess? Could be Darnell Scott, the whacko preacher/radio station owner from Cleveland.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:26:22pm

re: #20 jaunte

Based on the evidence so far, we have to assume that no statements from the White House can be trusted.

Ever.

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JordanRules  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:27:18pm

I saw this mentioned in earlier threads while I was doing quick lurking from work, but it’s worth highlighting again. Woohoo!!

Short game: can’t let Turtle get TreasonCare thru; pressure for removal of lawbreakers immediately (Kushner, Sessions etc); keep flipping off voter suppression efforts
Long game: democratic electoral strategies and victories; full accounting of this treason travesty with appropriate repercussions and remedies

We are better at multi-tasking anyway!!

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fern01  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:29:38pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

If anyone needs some prayers - it’s trump. Hanging in there on a thread and a prayer.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:30:04pm

re: #24 JordanRules

I saw this mentioned in earlier threads while I was doing quick lurking from work, but it’s worth highlighting again. Woohoo!!

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Short game: can’t let Turtle get TreasonCare thru; pressure for removal of lawbreakers immediately (Kushner, Sessions etc); keep flipping off voter suppression efforts
Long game: democratic electoral strategies and victories; full accounting of this treason travesty with appropriate repercussions and remedies

We are better at multi-tasking anyway!!

But the Dems are failing.//

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retired cynic  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:31:43pm

re: #24 JordanRules

I saw this mentioned in earlier threads while I was doing quick lurking from work, but it’s worth highlighting again. Woohoo!!

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Short game: can’t let Turtle get TreasonCare thru; pressure for removal of lawbreakers immediately (Kushner, Sessions etc); keep flipping off voter suppression efforts
Long game: democratic electoral strategies and victories; full accounting of this treason travesty with appropriate repercussions and remedies

We are better at multi-tasking anyway!!

All politics iz local. But still, it is heartening!

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JordanRules  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:32:00pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Always failing//
Even when shit gets stolen by a hostile foreign power. Oy.

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jaunte  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:32:07pm
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JordanRules  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:32:56pm

re: #27 retired cynic

And we should continue to locally kick ass!

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:34:46pm

re: #24 JordanRules

“TreasonCare” I like that one, would probably make some fun memes, eh?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:36:09pm

re: #24 JordanRules

I saw this mentioned in earlier threads while I was doing quick lurking from work, but it’s worth highlighting again. Woohoo!!

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Short game: can’t let Turtle get TreasonCare thru; pressure for removal of lawbreakers immediately (Kushner, Sessions etc); keep flipping off voter suppression efforts
Long game: democratic electoral strategies and victories; full accounting of this treason travesty with appropriate repercussions and remedies

We are better at multi-tasking anyway!!

Every one we flip is one less Republican Rubber Stamp in office!

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JordanRules  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:36:56pm

re: #31 William Lewis

Indeed! The term is gaining momentum on The Twittah so I suspect the meme machine will get revved up.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:39:09pm

re: #22 Myron Falwell

My uneducated guess? Could be Darnell Scott, the whacko preacher/radio station owner from Cleveland.

Maybe it’s ol Kerney Thomas!

KERNEY THOMAS GREATEST MOMENTS!!!!!!!!

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JordanRules  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:39:38pm

re: #32 Joe Bacon 🌹

And the fear it starts to engender in other districts and the GOPer party as a whole can’t be underestimated as a benefit!

They will act out. They will over reach. They will make dumb mistakes.
And we will pounce!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:39:53pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

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Yikes! I don’t believe in divine intervention but I would still flee the room to avoid a random meteor or lightning bolt, just in case.

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teleskiguy  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:43:18pm

I adore, love how this band just gives its music away and can still make money.

Umphrey’s McGee: Bonnaroo Late Night - Full Show 06/10/17

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2017 • 9:59:22pm

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Amory Blaine  Jul 11, 2017 • 10:01:18pm

Not too late to score one of these bad boys.

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teleskiguy  Jul 11, 2017 • 10:49:14pm

Much less electrical activity in the sky than last night, much more water falling from the the sky. Both very good things.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 11, 2017 • 10:49:21pm
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sagehen  Jul 11, 2017 • 10:49:47pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 11, 2017 • 10:58:15pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

We’re gettin’ some much needed soaking rains around these parts.

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CleverToad  Jul 11, 2017 • 11:19:56pm

re: #43 teleskiguy

We’re gettin’ some much needed soaking rains around these parts.

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Don’t bogart those clouds, man, we need some on this side of the Divide too.

Weather Channel’s giving me a 50% chance of a t-storm about 4 a.m., I’ll be astonished if we get more than a splatter. Glad it’s dampening the wildfires, though.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2017 • 11:32:45pm

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

I was going to say “it” as in the hopes and dreams of the American people.

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Kragar  Jul 11, 2017 • 11:54:10pm
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Kragar  Jul 11, 2017 • 11:58:32pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:06:58am

re: #47 Kragar

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He gets it.

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ozharas  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:07:04am

Lol Hugh Grant.

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JordanRules  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:11:27am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:17:06am

Off to work.

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teleskiguy  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:20:50am

You fucking “men” out there…

Accept women as equal humans, you fuckin’ assholes!

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JordanRules  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:21:40am
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:23:19am
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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:24:07am

re: #50 JordanRules

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They should do a modern remake of The Money Pit, but set it in the DoD with the Hanks character playing a hapless general stuck shoveling ever more money into a program that simply will not work.

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JordanRules  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:25:39am

re: #55 Targetpractice

Hanks would own it too!

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:42:20am
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:10:59am

At least we aren’t dealing with vampires….

Yes, I followed click-bait because I was bored as fuck.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:13:42am

So, GOP state legislature seats in special elections in NH, NY, and two in OK all flip to Democrats. That’s good news.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:14:21am

re: #58 Single-handed sailor

At least we aren’t dealing with vampires….

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Yes, I followed click-bait because I was bored as fuck.

Another reason we need this man back:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:16:28am

re: #58 Single-handed sailor

At least we aren’t dealing with vampires….

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Yes, I followed click-bait because I was bored as fuck.

Are you sure we’re not dealing with vampires?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:16:53am

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

So, GOP state legislature seats in special elections in NH, NY, and two in OK all flip to Democrats. That’s good news.

Let us hope that the DNC heeds this and starts taking steps to ensure that this trend continues…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:47:17am

In fluff masquerading as news, Wiz Khalifa’s “See You Again” has now surpassed Psy’s “Gangnam Style” as the most viewed video on YouTube.

huffingtonpost.com

The video for the song, which features singer Charlie Puth, reached 2.897 billion views, making it the most-viewed on the platform. “See You Again” unseated the previous record holder, South Korean singer Psy’s 2012 worldwide viral hit “Gangnam Style.”

As of press time, the views for “Gangnam Style” sit around 2.895 billion.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:50:37am

Teen abortion rate in Texas surges 3% after Texas removed payments to Planned Parenthood.

huffingtonpost.com

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:39:06am

Mad Cheeto is up:

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William Lewis  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:41:36am

re: #65 Ace-o-aces

Mad Cheeto is up:

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Ya know, Imelda Marcos must be part of this administration; that’s the only way they could have enough shoes for all the ones they’ve dropped…

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LastYearsMan  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:43:36am

I love how Trump — with his incredibly short, flaky attention span — is able to stay fixated on only one subject. Bending the knee to Russia.

Even on his core issues (gag), like health care and border security, he zigs and zags. But Russia? Totally focused, all the time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:45:30am

re: #65 Ace-o-aces

Remember, when you hear the words “sources say” from the Fake Media Trump administration, often times those sources words are made up and do not exist.

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fern01  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:53:19am

Sometimes I just cannot ….

Joe of the morning is reporting on Joe of the morning being on the Late Show with Stephen Colbert.

You watched it on the late show - now watch it on the morning show.

The media is the news!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:55:09am

re: #69 fern01

Sometimes I just cannot ….

Joe of the morning is reporting on Joe of the morning being on the Late Show with Stephen Colbert.

You watched it on the late show - now watch it on the morning show.

The media is the news!!

Yes, and Trump is one of their own, a media personality. The fact that he occupies the White House simply enhances his media profile. That is why the press is so hesitant to turn on Trump, even when he abuses and belittles them: he is one of their own - much more than he was ever a member of the GOP and its power structure.

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fern01  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:59:56am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, and Trump is one of their own, a media personality. The fact that he occupies the White House simply enhances his media profile. That is why the press is so hesitant to turn on Trump, even when he abuses and belittles them: he is one of their own - much more than he was ever a member of the GOP and its power structure.

I always thought of him as reality TV, not a media personality - then again, I guess most of the political pundits are reality TV given their goal is ratings as opposed to political news.

Also very proud of the fact I have NEVER seen his ridiculous TV show - other than extracts which are now shown in relation to his “acting” with the russian personality.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 12, 2017 • 4:25:57am

Just listened to interviews NPR’s Don Gagne did with Trump supporters in SW Pennsylvania—they don’t think Don Jr did anything wrong and they don’t care.

We need a national seminar on civics, ethics, and law.

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weave  Jul 12, 2017 • 4:41:26am

My head is hurting from all the spinning going on…. This is the top post on /r/the_donald right now….

The meeting was a setup. The original intent was to entrap the Trump campaign. It failed. Nevertheless, the Obama administration used it as a pretext to use the American intelligence apparatus to spy on the Trump campaign, while pretending to be looking into Russian interference. Thus, the “Obama wiretapping” actually happened. This is confirmed, and probably illegal, but whatever. So the media is now literally reporting that a failed election-time Democrat plot IS PROOF of a Russian conspiracy. They’re doing this and basically praying nobody does a background check on the people who actually set the meeting up (because they’re directly tied to the Clintons, the Obama administration, and Fusion GPS)

So somehow the Democrats did all this so they could lose? But they didn’t think they would lose so why bother? But they did it for the wiretap to prove Russian conspiracy, which Obama did nothing about (according to Trump) because he thought Clinton was going to win. But maybe they knew he was going to win but did this to discredit him later, so he’d be impeached and Republicans would be disgraced. Oh yeah, that must be it. The long con. It’s brilliant. (/sarcasm)

It’s no wonder his approval ratings aren’t budging despite all of this. Nothing is going to change these people’s minds. Nothing.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 12, 2017 • 4:51:33am

re: #72 Barefoot Grin

Just listened to interviews NPR’s Don Gagne did with Trump supporters in SW Pennsylvania—they don’t think Don Jr did anything wrong and they don’t care.

We need a national seminar on civics, ethics, and law.

That’s the reaction of our local radio conservatives too. Meh, NBD. This morning, extra special local fucktard Jay Weber, is going with some “Clinton and the Ukraine influenced the election and this is criminal” nonsense. He’s not smart enough to come up with this shit on his own and these are probably marching orders every RWNJ will be spewing by noon today.

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steve_davis  Jul 12, 2017 • 4:54:17am

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

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I’ll give Pence credit for one thing: he’s the only one of those carnie-barking fundies who doesn’t look like he’s pinching off a loaf while he prays. My experience with watching people pray is that the ones who look like 5 year-olds having their first experience ejecting a brick are utterly false in their prayers.

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steve_davis  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:00:27am

re: #19 Targetpractice

Considering all the ways that we’ve been lied to about this meeting, if you honestly buy that all that was discussed was adoptions, then you’re hopelessly gullible.

to the media’s credit, i’ve listened a to a few discussions about the meeting, and there is normally at least somebody who points out we have no reason to believe that the meeting was as completely successful as the Russian government lawyer stated it would be initially. National Review comment sections are a good example of why I troll conservative forums: it’s useful to understand the kind of mental weaknesses that cause people to become Trump cock holsters. In this case, they insist that everything was fine because they had a meeting “but the lady didn’t actually have anything of interest.” Really? It’s just coincidence that six days later, Wikileaks started the churn on hacked DNC material?

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steve_davis  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:01:07am

re: #76 steve_davis

crap. that the meeting “wasn’t as successful”.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:19:47am

re: #72 Barefoot Grin

Just listened to interviews NPR’s Don Gagne did with Trump supporters in SW Pennsylvania—they don’t think Don Jr did anything wrong and they don’t care.

We need a national seminar on civics, ethics, and law.

Forced denazification comes to mind.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:21:46am

Morning,

I have the Today show on and weatherman Al Roker said he just got a report the huge piece of the Larsen Ice Shelf of Antarctic ice everyone was thinking was going to break off in a year or so just broke off today.

He said it has the volume of water of Lake Erie and it is an indication - pause - of something serious going on - pause - with the climate.

It appears Al wanted to say a little more but realized it is a hot button issue and he had better back down what he said.

Here we go. And we have blockheads in politics denying it all.

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freetoken  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:30:36am

re: #79 ObserverArt

theguardian.com

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Myron Falwell  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:34:05am

re: #79 ObserverArt

Welp, there’s this island in the Carolinas that’s slowly getting swallowed up by the rising sea levels.

The people on this island voted for Trump overwhelmingly; and now they’re whining for help from Trump that will never come.

Karma is a b***h.

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freetoken  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:35:25am

But Siegert is quick to point out that the calving of the new iceberg is not a sign that the ice shelf is about to disintegrate, stressing that ice shelves naturally break up as they extend further out into the ocean. “I am not unduly concerned about it - it is not the first mega iceberg ever to have formed,” he said.

[…]

Luckman said that while the Larsen C ice shelf might continue to shed icebergs, it might regrow. Nevertheless previous research by the team has suggested that the remaining ice shelf is likely less stable now that the iceberg has calved, although it is unlikely the event would have any short-term effects. “We will have to wait years or decades to know what will happen to the remainder of Larsen C,” he said, pointing out that it took seven years after the release of a large iceberg from Larsen B before the ice shelf became unstable and disintegrated.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:39:40am

re: #78 Myron Falwell

Forced denazification comes to mind.

First we’d have to win the war.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:41:05am

re: #25 fern01

He’s hanging on like a stubborn dingleberry.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:51:56am

re: #2 Targetpractice

So in June ‘16, the DNC began a clandestine mission to use allegations of collusion between the Russian gov’t and the Trump campaign to defeat Trump in the election…which is why they let the matter simmer and did nothing to expose the Trumps until after the election.

Totally believable./////

“Well, if you don’t like that excuse, we have many others.”

/

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:52:00am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:56:22am

re: #60 Timothy Watson

Another reason we need this man back:

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I’m waiting for the sequels! Grover Cleveland vs. Frankenstein, Teddy Roosevelt Vs. The Wolf Man and Ike Vs. The Mummy!

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:57:37am

I’m going through the thread and just saw that image of Trump in the golf cart in comment GDF’s #41.

He is a very odd man. I knew he was always a creep, but now I realize he is just not right in the head. WTF? I guess his money always protected his oddities.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:57:49am

re: #72 Barefoot Grin

Just listened to interviews NPR’s Don Gagne did with Trump supporters in SW Pennsylvania—they don’t think Don Jr did anything wrong and they don’t care.

We need a national seminar on civics, ethics, and law.

But because of Hillary’s email server, “LOCK HER UP!!!” “HILLARY FOR PRISON!!!!”

It’s almost as if Trumpers don’t have a consistent ethic. /

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:58:33am

re: #72 Barefoot Grin

Just listened to interviews NPR’s Don Gagne did with Trump supporters in SW Pennsylvania—they don’t think Don Jr did anything wrong and they don’t care.

We need a national seminar on civics, ethics, and law.

Which is why I left Western PA 35 years ago and I’ll never go back.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:58:36am

re: #72 Barefoot Grin

Just listened to interviews NPR’s Don Gagne did with Trump supporters in SW Pennsylvania—they don’t think Don Jr did anything wrong and they don’t care.

Translation: Trump supporters=Republicans.

I think that clarifies a lot of things.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:00:32am

re: #73 weave

My head is hurting from all the spinning going on…. This is the top post on /r/the_donald right now….

So somehow the Democrats did all this so they could lose? But they didn’t think they would lose so why bother? But they did it for the wiretap to prove Russian conspiracy, which Obama did nothing about (according to Trump) because he thought Clinton was going to win. But maybe they knew he was going to win but did this to discredit him later, so he’d be impeached and Republicans would be disgraced. Oh yeah, that must be it. The long con. It’s brilliant. (/sarcasm)

It’s no wonder his approval ratings aren’t budging despite all of this. Nothing is going to change these people’s minds. Nothing.

And miraculously, the Democrats got Junior to AGREE to this “set up” meeting, and to respond to the email by saying “if your information is good I Love It!” AND got all the parties involved to lie about the meeting. But yeah, all the Dems fault.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:01:36am

re: #49 ozharas

Lol Hugh Grant.

Classic. Hugh Grant, of all people, comes through in the pinch.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:07:17am

re: #72 Barefoot Grin

Just listened to interviews NPR’s Don Gagne did with Trump supporters in SW Pennsylvania—they don’t think Don Jr did anything wrong and they don’t care.

We need a national seminar on civics, ethics, and law.

I think one of this countries big issues is we have too many people that would like to be as corrupt as the Trumps. They actually admire that he is a bigoted bully that gets over on everyone and everything. They all want to be able to do and say what they want. This guy is the Hero of Assholes Everywhere.

And we say we are a Christian nation. Ha.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:13:06am

re: #84 GlutenFreeJesus

He’s hanging on like a stubborn dingleberry.

Upding for dingleberry. Haven’t seen it used in a long while.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:13:40am

re: #94 ObserverArt

I think one of this countries big issues is we have too many people that would like to be as corrupt as the Trumps. They actually admire that he is a bigoted bully that gets over on everyone and everything. They all want to be able to do and say what they want. This guy is the Hero of Assholes Everywhere.

And we say we are a Christian nation. Ha.

WWE

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:16:50am

re: #65 Ace-o-aces

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump’s loyalists are out in force today. Lewandowski and Trump spawn lawyer are busy trying to claim the revelations (from Junior himself) that he met with Russians after spending more than a year denying there was any such meeting are nothing and that there was no collusion and there wasn’t any criminality involved.

Except for the part dealing with intent. It’s the intent to commit the crime. It was the intent to get oppo research from a foreign person/entity (Russian intel via a Russian national). That he was unsuccessful in this instance is besides the point.

But wait, there’s more. Junior then admitted that he had additional meetings with other Russians, but they were of the informal variety.

And you can bet that if Junior was involved, he probably looped in Manafort and Kushner too, if not Trump himself. Oh, and given what we know, I’d expect to find emails to/from Ivanka on this as well.

The whole kit and caboodle are complicit, and yet the GOP still sticks by this craven cabal of cronies. Because they’re using this massive scandal to inflict massive damage on American health care - and Pence is right there with Trump as all this is going down.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:21:03am

Balloon Juice has an article showing that the Intercept realizes how bad they fucked up with Reality Winner, so they’re going to pay for her defense and train their people better on how to handle information they receive.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:21:45am
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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:29:29am

re: #99 Belafon

The GOP needs Democrats to save themselves from the disaster of the GOP’s own making. They can’t destroy health coverage and deliver massive tax breaks to millionaires, and they’re stuck with a health care system going into 2018 that is being sabotaged by the GOP and uncertainty in what will happen.

Democrats need to play hardball here - sure we’ll help fix for 2018 and after, but you better damn well deal with Trump-Russia directly. No more pussyfooting.

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jeffreyw  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:30:13am

Imgur

Good morning!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:31:06am

re: #99 Belafon

I’m glad the GOP isn’t rushing this process or mangling key details about crucial issues in a hurried attempt to just pass something so they can go back to their donors and rubes and said they did something.

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darthstar  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:33:16am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:35:08am
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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:36:34am

By Trump logic, we should then expect years of investigations, multiple committee hearings, and personal testimony under oath by Trump….

Except that Trump’s already in serious trouble because of the unending stream of lies, perjury (Sessions, Kushner, etc.) Flynn firing, Manafort leaving, Page, and all the rest whose meetings with Russians was kept hidden and lied about for months on end.

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darthstar  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:36:58am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:37:47am

Reminder: as recently as last week, our so-called president was overseas where he claimed—against just last week—that despite multiple and repeated reports by US IC that the Russians were behind the DNC hacking, that he, the president, still wasn’t sure who really did the hacking, maybe there were multiple countries or parties, and that our US IC isn’t trustworthy anyway, because of Iraq WMD.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:38:48am

This guy’s a disgrace.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:39:26am

Smoking bazooka:

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darthstar  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:40:01am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:40:08am

re: #106 darthstar

Why aren’t the same standards placed on the Democrats. Look what Hillary Clinton may have gotten away with. Disgraceful!

— Donald J. Trump

The Democrats publicly called for Russia to hack Republican email and communication networks? Hillary’s people received emails from Russia contacts promising dirt on Trump, emailed back they would “love” such information, and arranged a meeting to get such information? Democrats have repeatedly denied Russian involvement in the hacking of the DNC despite all US IC reports?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:41:02am

re: #111 Sir John Barron

The Democrats publicly called for Russia to hack Republican email and communication networks? Hillary’s people received emails from Russia contacts promising dirt on Trump, emailed back they would “love” such information, and arranged a meeting to get such information? Democrats have repeatedly denied Russian involvement in the hacking of the DNC despite all US IC reports?

Hillary and Democrats repeatedly claimed they had no meetings or contacts with Russian saboteurs but have been found now to have had many such meetings and contacts?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:41:32am

re: #110 darthstar

Junior is more than an idiot. He’s a conspirator, a colluder, a liar, and a criminal.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:42:32am

re: #109 lawhawk

Smoking bazooka:

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Chickens are stuck in a tight holding pattern over the roost.

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darthstar  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:43:25am

re: #109 lawhawk

Smoking bazooka:

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Ground zero.

I think the reason Trump favors Jared over Donny Jr. is that Jared and Donald have mutual financial dependencies…that 500 million dollar loan from Qatar was meant to buoy both of their books. Qatar gives Jared money, Jared makes a loan on paper to Trump, Trump recycles the loan within his companies, and Qatar is out a half billion.

If Jared goes down, the entire financial fraud that is Trump/Kushner enterprises will fall apart.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:44:47am
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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:45:55am

#BringBackObama is trending.

I’m crying.

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darthstar  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:46:00am
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darthstar  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:46:25am

Seriously…he just tweeted that. Shit’s worse than we thought.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:47:13am

re: #9 freetoken

If anything good can come out of the Trump experience, hopefully when he goes down he’ll take the other con-artists with him.

Yeah, we can’t be satisfied with a few sacrificial lambs. The gang must go down. And they have to go down in such a way as to ensure that everyone knows they went down and from which they won’t easily rise again.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:47:37am

re: #118 darthstar

BWWWWAAAAAAHAAHHAHAHHHH

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:48:52am

re: #119 darthstar

Seriously…he just tweeted that. Shit’s worse than we thought.

Normal Person: Shit’s effed up and bullshit.

Trump: Hold my beer….

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darthstar  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:49:25am
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darthstar  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:53:02am

Third day in a row with no public schedule. The president is in hiding.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:53:34am

re: #124 darthstar

Third day in a row with no public schedule. The president is in hiding.

Because he’s “crushing it”.

/

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:54:24am

re: #118 darthstar

The W.H. is functioning perfectly, focused on HealthCare, Tax Cuts/Reform & many other things. I have very little time for watching T.V.

— Donald J. Trump

You know what a normal president tweets out when his WH is functioning perfectly? Anything besides what this so-called president just tweeted.

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darthstar  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:54:29am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:55:20am

re: #120 Sir John Barron

Yeah, we can’t be satisfied with a few sacrificial lambs. The gang must go down. And they have to go down in such a way as to ensure that everyone knows they went down and from which they won’t easily rise again.

That’s why the relative quiet from the Dems on Russia, impeachment, etc. is OK. The real work is to tie this shit to the entire ideological Right so strongly that the coming implosion echoes for a generation. Every one of the Podunk GOP dogcatchers needs to be buried in Trump livery.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:56:30am

re: #128 Decatur Deb

That’s why the relative quiet from the Dems on Russia, impeachment, etc. is OK. The real work is to tie this shit to the ideological Right so strongly that the coming implosion echoes for a generation. Every one of the Podunk GOP dogcatchers needs to be buried in Trump livery.

We need to drain the swamp of the people who claimed they wanted to drain the swamp.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:56:56am

re: #118 darthstar

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darthstar  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:57:17am

This tweet is going to get a lot of attention - and it won’t just be for the morning…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:57:20am

re: #130 lawhawk

Just a flesh wound.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:57:27am

re: #129 Sir John Barron

We need to drain the swamp of the people who claimed they wanted to drain the swamp.

Screw it. We just need a bunch more ‘gators.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:57:38am

re: #117 MsJ

#BringBackObama is trending.

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I’m crying.

I really miss him. I’ve never had this feeling with any President. I mean yeah I missed Bill after Dubya took over but the contrast between Obama and Trump is so night and day.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:57:51am

re: #123 darthstar

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:58:31am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:59:22am

re: #134 HappyWarrior

I really miss him. I’ve never had this feeling with any President. I mean yeah I missed Bill after Dubya took over but the contrast between Obama and Trump is so night and day.

I missed Kennedy, Carter, and Obama. We are well rid of the rest.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:59:42am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

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He’s going to ask Jared to jump in the Spruce Moose soon isn’t he?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:03:32am

Hey remember when they told us that Trump was goign to be a friend to LGBT people.
That was a good one!
splcenter.org

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:04:22am

Desperation: I just heard a conservahead-radio talker (Laura, I think) make the claim that since everyone thought Hillary would win wouldn’t it be natural that the lawyer wanting Magnitsky repealed would have approached the Clinton camp? And therefore, shouldn’t the investigation really be focused on finding out about any possible connections?

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:06:38am

When our president had a sense of humor.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:06:41am

re: #140 Barefoot Grin

Desperation: I just heard a conservahead-radio talker (Laura, I think) make the claim that since everyone thought Hillary would win wouldn’t it be natural that the lawyer wanting Magnitsky repealed would have approached the Clinton camp? And therefore, shouldn’t the investigation really be focused on finding out about any possible connections?

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Laura really wants Spicey’s job doesn’t she?

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Myron Falwell  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:06:45am

re: #108 HappyWarrior

This guy’s Anyone and everyone directly connected to the GOP and its leadership is a disgrace.

Modified for accuracy.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:07:10am

re: #138 HappyWarrior

He’s going to ask Jared to jump in the Spruce Moose soon isn’t he?

Oh yeah, any day now……

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darthstar  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:07:30am

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:07:31am

re: #144 Dr Lizardo

Oh yeah, any day now……

I said hop in

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:07:38am

re: #140 Barefoot Grin

Desperation: I just heard a conservahead-radio talker (Laura, I think) make the claim that since everyone thought Hillary would win wouldn’t it be natural that the lawyer wanting Magnitsky repealed would have approached the Clinton camp? And therefore, shouldn’t the investigation really be focused on finding out about any possible connections?

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Sure, keep digging, wingnuts.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:07:46am

re: #143 Myron Falwell

Modified for accuracy.

Word.

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sagehen  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:07:57am

re: #109 lawhawk

Smoking bazooka:

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“I get the fact that the Russian intel services could figure out how to manipulate and use the bots,” Virginia Sen. Mark Warner told Pod Save America recently. “Whether they could know how to target states and levels of voters that the Democrats weren’t even aware (of) really raises some questions … How did they know to go to that level of detail in those kinds of jurisdictions?”

The Russians targeted women and African-Americans in two of the three decisive states, Wisconsin and Michigan, “where the Democrats were too brain dead to realize those states were even in play,” Warner said.

Twitter’s and Facebook’s search engines in those states were overwhelmed, he said, meaning they couldn’t discern fake news from real news.

“On your news feed, you suddenly got … ‘Hillary Clinton’s sick’ or ‘Hillary Clinton’s stealing money from the State Department,’” said Warner.

Read more here: mcclatchydc.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:08:28am

re: #140 Barefoot Grin

Desperation: I just heard a conservahead-radio talker (Laura, I think) make the claim that since everyone thought Hillary would win wouldn’t it be natural that the lawyer wanting Magnitsky repealed would have approached the Clinton camp? And therefore, shouldn’t the investigation really be focused on finding out about any possible connections?

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

*sniffs air*

Ah, the stench of desperation. I thought I recognized it.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:08:59am

re: #149 sagehen

The Russians targeted women and African-Americans in two of the three decisive states, Wisconsin and Michigan, “where the Democrats were too brain dead to realize those states were even in play,” Warner said.

Wow, Warner said this?

Not saying he’s wrong. Just….

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:09:30am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

*sniffs air*

Ah, the stench of desperation. I thought I recognized it.

I love the smell of wingnut desperation in the morning….

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Myron Falwell  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:09:30am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

I said hop in

“And take these damned Kleenex boxes off my feet!”

The Simpsons - “I said: Hop in!” Cartoon For Child 2017

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:18:39am

re: #151 Sir John Barron

Wow, Warner said this?

Not saying he’s wrong. Just….

Know thyself.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:18:49am

They definitely were spreading fake bullshit via Facebook and Twitter and it’s why I think it’s absurd to say it had no impact.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:19:21am

re: #154 Decatur Deb

Know thyself.

I think it’s because those of us who know Warner fairly well are surprised he’d use that kind of strong language.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:19:39am

re: #154 Decatur Deb

Know thyself.

Have to say this kind of straight talk from a Dem official is kind of refreshing.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:20:09am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

They definitely were spreading fake bullshit via Facebook and Twitter and it’s why I think it’s absurd to say it had no impact.

“The Russian meddling didn’t change any votes but Trump talked about Wikileaks at every stop.”

/

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:21:27am

Man, this thread…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:21:40am

re: #158 Sir John Barron

“The Russian meddling didn’t change any votes but Trump talked about Wikileaks at every stop.”

/

I am still furious that Trump prefers WL/Infowars over our own intelligence agencies.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:22:11am

re: #159 MsJ

Man, this thread…

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He makes us look so goddamned nuts.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:22:42am

At this point, what will it take to convince Trump’s deplorables that their lord and master is incapable of telling the truth? The last 4 days has provided undeniable fact that DJT cannot tell the truth.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:23:48am

re: #162 Dr. Matt

At this point, what will it take to convince Trump’s deplorables that their lord and master is incapable of telling the truth? The last 4 days has provided undeniable fact that DJT cannot tell the truth.

Nothing will, not when they’ve been lied to all along and they still don’t care. They still believe whatever Trump’s spewing, no matter how baffling the BS.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:23:57am

re: #162 Dr. Matt

At this point, what will it take to convince Trump’s deplorables that their lord and master is incapable of telling the truth? The last 4 days has provided undeniable fact that DJT cannot tell the truth.

First we have to get them to give up the dinosaurs on the Ark.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:23:57am

re: #108 HappyWarrior

This guy’s a disgrace.

He sure is the whiniest 12 year old brat President ever.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:24:13am

re: #157 Sir John Barron

Have to say this kind of straight talk from a Dem official is kind of refreshing.

Especially since he took more of a reserved tone on the evening news last night when Qusay Trump fessed up.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:26:59am

re: #50 JordanRules

Recently I saw a video where a defence analyst was asked the purpose of the F-35.

His answer? “To keep Lockheed-Martin in business.”

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No Depression  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:27:33am

re: #165 ObserverArt

He sure is the whiniest 12 year old brat President ever.

That’s an insult to 12 year olds. Most of them are more mature than that sack of shit.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:27:46am

re: #162 Dr. Matt

re: #163 lawhawk

Nothing indeed. Just look at that #BringBackObama hash. The deplorables are starting to post it and what they say is insane. The usual, of course…Kenya, bombs, created ISIS, blah blah blah. But man, they are true believers.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:27:55am

re: #163 lawhawk

Nothing will, not when they’ve been lied to all along and they still don’t care. They still believe whatever Trump’s spewing, no matter how baffling the BS.

It’s a cult.

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No Depression  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:29:10am

re: #169 MsJ

Nothing indeed. Just look at that #BringBackObama hash. The deplorables are starting to post it and what they say is insane. The usual, of course…Kenya, bombs, created ISIS, blah blah blah. But man, they are true believers.

They’re so stupid, I almost feel pity for them. But I don’t. Fuck ‘em.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:29:24am

re: #165 ObserverArt

He sure is the whiniest 12 year old brat President ever.

This describes the deplorables too.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:29:28am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

Are you sure we’re not dealing with vampires?

Not likely. It’s really hard to take a vampire alive.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:30:01am

re: #171 No Depression

They’re so stupid, I almost feel pity for them. But I don’t. Fuck ‘em.

I feel no pity at all. They chose to listen to a pathetic con man. They chose to dismiss the people who knew exactly what Trump would be as “libtards” or “cucks.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:30:22am

re: #172 Sir John Barron

This describes the deplorables too.

Yep, they fit each other perfectly.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:30:44am

re: #67 LastYearsMan

They’ve paid him.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:31:36am

re: #167 Romantic Heretic

Recently I saw a video where a defence analyst was asked the purpose of the F-35.

His answer? “To keep Lockheed-Martin in business.”

It’s a really complicated situation, and clogged with real and exaggerated waste, but there is a hard need to maintain an aviation and naval production base. It was very good that Boeing was still in business in 1940.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:32:22am

Question:

Yesterday Wikileaks/Assange reached out to trumpito to assist with the publishing of the emails. Guess is via dm on twitter, since they follow each other.

What if there are dm’s during the election?

Specifically requesting info…..

Would that qualify for collusion via Russian proxy?

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(Bert the Turtle)  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:32:53am

re: #151 Sir John Barron

Wow, Warner said this?

Not saying he’s wrong. Just….

In Wisconsin, the Dem’s were. He’s pretty spot on there IMO.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:33:48am

re: #162 Dr. Matt

At this point, what will it take to convince Trump’s deplorables that their lord and master is incapable of telling the truth? The last 4 days has provided undeniable fact that DJT cannot tell the truth.

Trump supporters have no sense of shame or interest in the meaning of truth. The only thing that can be done is simply shout them down and vote them out.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:35:09am

re: #176 Romantic Heretic

They’ve paid him.

But the Russians are ticked off their Maryland and New York dachas haven’t been returned (Obama shut them down and expelled their occupants among other diplomats) and are threatening to retaliate in some unspecified way. The Obama admin/US IC believed these compounds were places from which spying or election meddling occurred.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:37:04am

What I find telling is the people who knew Trump the most i.e. New Yorkers especially people in NYC rejected him overwhelmingly. That to me really says something and that people who only really knew him as “that success business guy on the Apprentice” embraced him the most.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:38:30am

re: #179 (Bert the Turtle)

In Wisconsin, the Dem’s were. He’s pretty spot on there IMO.

PA, Iowa, Ohio, too. The last two were essentially non-competitive.

A different candidate, a fresh face, in 2020 should help. But I fear there are deeper problems—i.e. the makings of a Democratic coalition in these states is deteriorating. In other words, Dem electoral problems may be more than just Hillary Clinton fatigue.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:39:43am

re: #124 darthstar

Third day in a row with no public schedule. The president is in hiding.

Bunker Mentality. The whole White House is in it.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:40:35am

re: #81 Myron Falwell

Welp, there’s this island in the Carolinas that’s slowly getting swallowed up by the rising sea levels..

Minor correction, Tangier Island is in the Chesapeake Bay and is considered to be part of VA.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:42:24am

re: #162 Dr. Matt

At this point, what will it take to convince Trump’s deplorables that their lord and master is incapable of telling the truth? The last 4 days has provided undeniable fact that DJT cannot tell the truth.

Non-whites shipped out of the country; gays and lesbians corrected or killed; women sent back to the kitchen.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:42:46am

re: #182 HappyWarrior

What I find telling is the people who knew Trump the most i.e. New Yorkers especially people in NYC rejected him overwhelmingly. That to me really says something and that people who only really knew him as “that success business guy on the Apprentice” embraced him the most.

Hell, look at what Ron Perlman’s said about him - it’s pretty much the same things my boss (a native of NYC) has said. Trump’s a conman, a weasel. I’ve said here before I’ve known about Trump since the 1980s, when he first become a national presence on TV; my dad saw one interview with him and promptly derided him as a “two-bit shyster”.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:42:54am

re: #128 Decatur Deb

That’s why the relative quiet from the Dems on Russia, impeachment, etc. is OK. The real work is to tie this shit to the entire ideological Right so strongly that the coming implosion echoes for a generation. Every one of the Podunk GOP dogcatchers needs to be buried in Trump livery.

Rachel Maddow was talking about that last night. She was saying so many people want a decision on Trump now but that is wrong. Every piece of evidence needs to be checked and double-checked and all t’s crossed and i’s dotted properly so there is no denial about the findings. It needs to fit in nicely with the historical records so that it will be known forever.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:43:05am

re: #183 Sir John Barron

PA, Iowa, Ohio, too. The last two were essentially non-competitive.

A different candidate, a fresh face, in 2020 should help. But I fear there are deeper problems—i.e. the makings of a Democratic coalition in these states is deteriorating. In other words, Dem electoral problems may be more than just Hillary Clinton fatigue.

I really think in hindsight we were hurt by that people had Clinton fatigue. It sucks because she was a good candidate but we can’t underestimate how many people including many on our own side detest her. I don’t see the 2020 nominee having that problem and I think Trump may struggle actually having to defend his policies. But I don’t know. I never thought Trump be elected so that shows you how much I know.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:43:47am

re: #187 Dr Lizardo

Hell, look at what Ron Perlman’s said about him - it’s pretty much the same things my boss (a native of NYC) has said. Trump’s a conman, a weasel. I’ve said here before I’ve known about Trump since the 1980s, when he first become a national presence on TV; my dad saw one interview with him and promptly derided him as a “two-bit shyster”.

I’ve seen him since the 90’s when he would make cameos in movies and I always thought he was an obnoxious boob.

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Jay C  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:44:28am

re: #186 Belafon

Non-whites shipped out of the country; gays and lesbians corrected or killed; women sent back to the kitchen.

Wait a sec… Isn’t that basically the (unspoken) policy they WANTED a Trump Administration to implement?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:44:52am
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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:45:20am

re: #141 MsJ

When our president had a sense of humor.

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When our president had sense.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:46:01am

re: #184 ObserverArt

Bunker Mentality. The whole White House is in it.

Sure looks like Twitter is now Trump’s sole interaction with the outside world, no?

Trump’s always had a bunker mentality since prior to the election, but this is probably the worst he’s shown it.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:46:13am

re: #191 Jay C

Wait a sec… Isn’t that basically the (unspoken) policy they WANTED a Trump Administration to implement?

Yep. Until there is nothing left for them to blame, they will always turn to those that appeal to their hate rather than those that want to help.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:47:38am
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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:47:56am

re: #187 Dr Lizardo

Hell, look at what Ron Perlman’s said about him - it’s pretty much the same things my boss (a native of NYC) has said. Trump’s a conman, a weasel. I’ve said here before I’ve known about Trump since the 1980s, when he first become a national presence on TV; my dad saw one interview with him and promptly derided him as a “two-bit shyster”.

We tried to warn people that they were going to elect a self-promoting asshole. People in NY have been calling him an asshole since the Studio 54 days.

But did anybody listen to us? Nooooo…..

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:48:02am

re: #194 Myron Falwell

Sure looks like Twitter is now Trump’s sole interaction with the outside world, no?

Trump’s always had a bunker mentality since prior to the election, but this is probably the worst he’s shown it.

His paranoia’s gotta be off the damn chart.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:49:24am

re: #197 makeitstop

We tried to warn people that they were going to elect a self-promoting asshole. People in NY have been calling him an asshole since the Studio 54 days.

But did anybody listen to us? Nooooo…..

But the deplorables like having an ashole in the WH as long as he’s their Ahole.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:49:55am

re: #147 Sir John Barron

Sure, keep digging, wingnuts.

Digging from the fertile yet scary depths of wingnut minds. They sure are flailing about coming up with all kinds of outrageous excuses. It really shows how far they will go to lie and cover for their guy.

I know the wingnuts love it, but I sure hope the 70% of this country that is capable of being someone rational are watching all these folks going off the deep end. It is a true view of conservative character. As in none in view.

We need to get the independents and the fence sitters to move.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:50:59am

re: #197 makeitstop

We tried to warn people that they were going to elect a self-promoting asshole. People in NY have been calling him an asshole since the Studio 54 days.

But did anybody listen to us? Nooooo…..

Yeah, I’d say the halcyon days of Studio 54 was when Trump was probably first noticed by the national media - Studio 54 was briefly the talk of the nation, usually for salacious reasons. I dimly remember it being talked about on ABC News one evening, and that was before the place got shut down. I also rather dimly remember a brief segment on the Sex Pistols and their hapless US tour.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:51:15am

re: #197 makeitstop

We tried to warn people that they were going to elect a self-promoting asshole. People in NY have been calling him an asshole since the Studio 54 days.

But did anybody listen to us? Nooooo…..

Damn coastal elites. //

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(Bert the Turtle)  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:51:56am

re: #182 HappyWarrior

What I find telling is the people who knew Trump the most i.e. New Yorkers especially people in NYC rejected him overwhelmingly. That to me really says something and that people who only really knew him as “that success business guy on the Apprentice” embraced him the most.

That’s usually the way it goes. The same thing happened here w/ Walker. Milwaukee hated him. But, then you have the blitzkrieg of PAC ads and well, possible Russian collusion in Trump’s case & Wheee the right-wing hops on the train to dipshitville.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:53:10am

re: #203 (Bert the Turtle)

That’s usually the way it goes. The same thing happened here w/ Walker. Milwaukee hated him. But, then you have the blitzkrieg of PAC ads and well, possible Russian collusion in Trump’s case & Wheee the right-wing hops on the train to dipshitville.

True, see also Pence in Indiana.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:54:11am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Damn coastal elites. //

And during the election, “Independent” Joe Scarborough lectured the media, the elites, academia, democrats, and the Left that we don’t understand the “real pain” that Trump supporters are feeling……oh, and Hillary’s favorability ratings are sooooo low.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:55:28am

re: #156 HappyWarrior

I think it’s because those of us who know Warner fairly well are surprised he’d use that kind of strong language.

I think he is learning how bad Trump is and it really makes the contrast of what could have been eat at him.

Last night he was asked if he knew about the Donny Jr. meeting and emails. He said he couldn’t say but he hinted it is just one thing that has come to light.

We might be getting a steady stream of bombs over the whole summer. I think someone that knows what all is available to damage Trump is prepared to do the steady drop. Like maybe the Russians. Maybe unmarked envelopes show up at NY Times and WaPo and each one is another explosive device.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:56:58am

re: #197 makeitstop

We tried to warn people that they were going to elect a self-promoting asshole. People in NY have been calling him an asshole since the Studio 54 days.

But did anybody listen to us? Nooooo…..

A majority of popular voters listened.

Just that 1) enough Greenies in Ohio, Florida and Wisconsin didn’t care one bit he was an asshole conman, 2) enough bumpkins in Bumfuck County, Wyoming loved that the asshole conman was an asshole conman and 3) the electoral college was gamed in a way that the asshole conman couldn’t lose.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:56:58am

re: #205 Dr. Matt

And during the election, “Independent” Joe Scarborough lectured the media, the elites, academia, democrats, and the Left that we don’t understand the “real pain” that Trump supporters are feeling……oh, and Hillary’s favorability ratings are sooooo low.

Yeah, I remember all those BREAKING NEWS stories showing an empty podium eagerly awaiting Trump’s arrival and whatever nutburger shit he was going to spew. It was all circus…billions in free advertising.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:59:15am

re: #205 Dr. Matt

And during the election, “Independent” Joe Scarborough lectured the media, the elites, academia, democrats, and the Left that we don’t understand the “real pain” that Trump supporters are feeling……oh, and Hillary’s favorability ratings are sooooo low.

Yep. I got so tired of the pity stories about Trump supporters. Okay, fair enough, but these people are the same people who accuse everyone else of being a moocher.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 7:59:42am

re: #201 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I’d say the halcyon days of Studio 54 was when Trump was probably first noticed by the national media - Studio 54 was briefly the talk of the nation, usually for salacious reasons. I dimly remember it being talked about on ABC News one evening, and that was before the place got shut down. I also rather dimly remember a brief segment on the Sex Pistols and their hapless US tour.

In the Summer of ‘77 I’d just moved to NYC, and my band did a lot of recording at a studio on 54th called the Sound Palace (it was later bought by the Hit Factory). We used to go in on open night time sessions - hit the studio at 8 and work until 3 or 4 in the morning, or whenever we wrapped on the tracks we were working on at the time.

We’d usually break around midnight to head to a pub called Connolly’s down the block (still there, actually), right across the street from 54. We’d grab the booth in the front window, order beers and burgers and watch the crowd outside groveling to get into the club. The level of humiliation those dopes would go through to get into a stupid club was pretty sad, but it was a sight to see.

I saw Trump arrive a few times. Steve Rubell (54’s owner, who later went to prison IIRC) would always come out and usher Trump in personally.

I also saw Linda Ronstadt face plant on the sidewalk getting out of her limo one night, but she never ran for president so I’ll leave that alone. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:00:14am

re: #206 ObserverArt

I think he is learning how bad Trump is and it really makes the contrast of what could have been eat at him.

Last night he was asked if he knew about the Donny Jr. meeting and emails. He said he couldn’t say but he hinted it is just one thing that has come to light.

We might be getting a steady stream of bombs over the whole summer. I think someone that knows what all is available to damage Trump is prepared to do the steady drop. Like maybe the Russians. Maybe unmarked envelopes show up at NY Times and WaPo and each one is another explosive device.

We never have anyone like Trump here in Virginia reach a level of Trump’s success.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:00:31am

Morning Lizardim.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:01:33am

The first courts-martial was handed down in the Marines United case (goes to my article here at LGF of image sharing of nude military and civilian women by active duty and veterans).

The sentence was reduction of three ranks, ten days in the brig, and loss of two-thirds of a month’s salary.

Since the private Facebook page was shuttered, forks of it have appeared.

Now a massive file dump to a file-sharing site of photographs and videos of nude service women (including one apparently unconscious) has appeared: thousands of photographs and videos.

Some have also shown up for sale on a dark-web site. Numerous “private drives” on Facebook have also been uncovered with the original material from Marines.

Five months after the Marines United nude-photo scandal broke, there is a new group of victims, including an unconscious woman who was photographed naked.

Explicit videos and photos of female servicemembers were posted last week in a Dropbox drive called “Girls of MU” and were shared in a closed Facebook group called Mike Uniform. (“Mike Uniform” is the U.S. military’s phonetic alphabet for M.U., the abbreviation for “Marines United.”)

Previous caches contained few videos, unlike the Mike Uniform cache, which indicates there are new victims. The shared drive contains 3,863 photos and videos, ranging from professional pornography to homemade videos and selfies. Some are screenshots of temporary Snapchat stories, and others are photos of a woman in a U.S. Marine Corps uniform engaging in oral sex and posing afterward.

The photo of the unconscious woman, like most of the videos in the new drive, was not posted in the original shared drives on the nude-photo-sharing Facebook page Marines United, nor on its descendant groups.The woman was photographed by a man whose reflection is visible in a mirror, though his face is unclear.

More at thedailybeast.com

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:03:36am

re: #206 ObserverArt

We might be getting a steady stream of bombs over the whole summer. I think someone that knows what all is available to damage Trump is prepared to do the steady drop. Like maybe the Russians. Maybe unmarked envelopes show up at NY Times and WaPo and each one is another explosive device.

I still believe these bombshells are the intel community exacting revenge for Trump bad-mouthing them. They probably wired up the Oval 50 different ways before Obama left and they’re still hearing every single thing that happens there.

Trump violated the Golden Rule - ‘Don’t piss off the spies.’

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:04:52am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

True, see also Pence in Indiana.

The thing about Pence in Indiana is that he was savvy enough to get elected, but once he got there and he let his freak flag fly, people were so revolted by him that he likely would have been voted out had he not jumped ship and hitched his wagon to the Trump train dumpster fire. He has a certain amount of political cunning, but he has no capability to think ahead far enough to capitalize on it. Right-wingers in Indiana will vote for anyone or anything with an (R) in front of their name, so the complete disaster that was his term as governor cannot be overstated.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:06:04am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:06:35am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:07:50am

re: #217 FormerDirtDart

Hurr hurr were just doing oppo research like everybody else!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:08:26am

re: #217 FormerDirtDart

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No, shit.

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No Depression  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:08:28am

re: #216 FormerDirtDart

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That’s not the only typo. FOX & friends should be FUCKS & fiends.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:09:18am

re: #214 makeitstop

Trump violated the Golden Rule - ‘Don’t piss off the spies.’

Which is just slightly above: “Don’t piss off your waitstaff.”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:10:28am

re: #220 No Depression

That’s not the only typo. FOX & friends should be FUCKS & fiends.

I just smile a little bit more each day as I realize that the first order of business for every Faux host is to explain away all the Trump scandals.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:10:53am

Why would anyone ask Louie Gohmert for his opinion on anything?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:10:55am

re: #217 FormerDirtDart

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Didn’t he say that he hadn’t heard of the trumpito emails that Graham read?

I was like PFAWWWWWW

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:11:54am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart

While we’re at it, let’s take the bodies of the poor and destitute who will die from these decisions and use them to build the wall.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:11:58am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:12:28am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart

Idiot Republican congressman: Use money from food stamp budget and Planned Parenthood to pay for border wall cnn.com pic.twitter.com

— CNN

I just added some Wonkette like terminology to CNN’s headline.

They really need to be more accurate when reporting this stuff. /

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:12:29am

re: #192 FormerDirtDart

More blood to water The Tree of Liberty.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:12:32am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart

Why would anyone ask Louie Gohmert for his opinion on anything?

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Fucking asshole. But yeah let’s ask the guy that Boehner knew was an idiot his opinion.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:13:17am

re: #226 Dr. Matt

Cuck.

/

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wheat-dogg  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:13:33am

re: #182 HappyWarrior

What I find telling is the people who knew Trump the most i.e. New Yorkers especially people in NYC rejected him overwhelmingly. That to me really says something and that people who only really knew him as “that success business guy on the Apprentice” embraced him the most.

New Yorkers would barely give Trump the time of day if they met him. High society has rejected/disdained Trumps since his daddy was alive.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:14:48am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart

That’s King. I didn’t watch tho.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:15:06am

re: #231 wheat-dogg

New Yorkers would barely give Trump the time of day if they met him. High society has rejected/disdained Trumps since his daddy was alive.

It’s because he has no grace or dignity to him. He can’t even pretend to act like a functioning human being.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:15:35am

re: #232 Stanley Sea

That’s King. I didn’t watch tho.

Whoops, that is Steve KKKing.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:15:56am

re: #210 makeitstop

We’d usually break around midnight to head to a pub called Connolly’s down the block (still there, actually), right across the street from 54.

Been there. Nice joint.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:17:30am

Speaking of our friends at Wonkette:

Remember Donald Trump Jr.’s FIRST LIE, when he said he only met Russian lady lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya in Trump Tower with Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner so they could deal with pressing Bouncy Russian Baby problems? Guess whose lie that actually was? Surprise, it was the White House’s lie! More specifically, it was the only lie White House staff came up with on the plane back from the G20 that Daddy Donald Trump would sign off on. Does that sound like a cover-up to you? Because it sounds like a cover-up to us! We’re going to say it right here at the outset, and we’ll return to it later, but Junior better hope there aren’t “tapes” or “wire tapps” of his little meeting!

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wheat-dogg  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:17:55am

re: #214 makeitstop

I still believe these bombshells are the intel community exacting revenge for Trump bad-mouthing them. They probably wired up the Oval 50 different ways before Obama left and they’re still hearing every single thing that happens there.

Trump violated the Golden Rule - ‘Don’t piss off the spies.’

This is part of the Deep State CT circulating in the pro-Trump circles. Back away from it.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:18:56am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Whoops, that is Steve KKKing.

Gohmert! and Steve King are so dumb and evil they can be readily exchanged for one another.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:19:00am

re: #236 Sir John Barron

Speaking of our friends at Wonkette:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:20:01am

re: #238 Sir John Barron

Gohmert! and Steve King are so dumb and evil they can be readily exchanged for one another.

Indeed. They’re both just awful. I would be so ashamed to have them as my rep.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:20:10am

re: #225 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

While we’re at it, let’s take the bodies of the poor and destitute who will die from these decisions and use them to build the wall.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:20:41am

re: #210 makeitstop

I only wish I’d be about 15 years older than I was back in ‘77 (I was 8); I would’ve loved to see all that craziness for myself. I’ve always been fascinated by the dark underbelly, the seedy side of life. Visited NYC with my parents in ‘78 and Times Square was, shall we say, the wildest thing I’d ever seen….a veritable carnival of debauchery and vice come to life.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:20:46am

re: #235 wheat-dogg

Been there. Nice joint.

I lived on their burgers for the better part of a year. As young, dumb musicians, our eating habits weren’t the best.

We did nearly perfect our drinking technique there, though. :)

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:21:16am

re: #239 Stanley Sea

Shit, how did news of our meeting get out? Oh well, what can we tell them? I know somebody mentioned “adoptions” at this nothingburger meeting that got us no Hillary intel. Let’s just tell everyone it was about adoptions. This should put an end to any further questions and we can finally move on to approve Putin’s program here.

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William Lewis  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:21:50am

re: #167 Romantic Heretic

Recently I saw a video where a defence analyst was asked the purpose of the F-35.

His answer? “To keep Lockheed-Martin in business.”

Pretty much. The Northrup Grumman B21 project has at least some need (the bomber fleet needs replacing) but they know damned well that if they hadn’t gotten foreign sales of the F-35 it would have been toast long ago. Given Lockheed’s history of bribery with the F-104 sales, it just makes me go Hmmm.

Just reopen the A-10 & F-16 lines instead.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:22:05am

re: #242 Dr Lizardo

I only wish I’d be about 15 years older than I was back in ‘77 (I was 8); I would’ve loved to see all that craziness for myself. I’ve always been fascinated by the dark underbelly, the seedy side of life. Visited NYC with my parents in ‘78 and Times Square was, shall we say, the wildest thing I’d ever seen….a veritable carnival of debauchery and vice come to life.

New York in the 70’s. Man I can’t imagine. I always think of that beginning scene of Mean Streets and Be My Baby playing as Harvey Keitel gets up. I go to NYC quite a bit now- have some good friends up there but the 70’s man.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:22:29am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

It’s because he has no grace or dignity to him. He can’t even pretend to act like a functioning human being.

As a NYer, I can say we will put up with a lot of bad or weird behavior from people, because that’s a survival tactic in a large, cosmopolitan city. Trump, though, manages to piss off and offend everyone, because he’s not just weird and obnoxious. He’s a poseur — a guy who pretends to have class, to be rich and powerful, when really he’s just a half successful businessman with no special skills or abilities.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:22:46am

re: #245 William Lewis

Pretty much. The Northrup Grumman B21 project has at least some need (the bomber fleet needs replacing) but they know damned well that if they hadn’t gotten foreign sales of the F-35 it would have been toast long ago. Given Lockheed’s history of bribery with the F-104 sales, it just makes me go Hmmm.

Just reopen the A-10 & F-16 lines instead.

I thought the F-35 was supposed to be replacing the A-10, F-16, F-15, and F/A-18 fleets all at once.

/half

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:23:13am

re: #239 Stanley Sea

The President’s team took the lead on addressing Trump Jr.’s meeting even though he is not on the White House staff. Trump Jr. instead is tasked with running Trump’s businesses and is not supposed to discuss the business with his father.

I’ll just leave this here.

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William Lewis  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:23:44am

re: #179 (Bert the Turtle)

In Wisconsin, the Dem’s were. He’s pretty spot on there IMO.

Arguably he’s too easy on the idiotic morons at DPW.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:24:06am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart

Why would anyone ask Louie Gohmert for his opinion on anything?

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Steve King.

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Lupin  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:24:40am

I just had a flash: Tucker Carlson is just like Fred Kaltenbach, minus the talent.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:26:18am

re: #227 Sir John Barron

I just added some Wonkette like terminology to CNN’s headline.

They really need to be more accurate when reporting this stuff. /

Erik Prince Petitions the Trump Court for New Afghan Colonial Concession (goes to Wonkette)

As noted in the article, Erik Prince wrote an op-ed some time ago where he stated what Afghanistan needed was someone in our government to appoint a viceroy to rule over the nation. (Presumably after overthrowing its government.)

They also note that libertarian Peter Theil wants to reorganise the US intelligence apparatus (and is now on the National Security Council). Presumably that would be so rich jerks like Peter Theil can use the intelligence community to make more money for rich jerks like Peter Theil.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:27:05am

re: #247 wheat-dogg

As a NYer, I can say we will put up with a lot of bad or weird behavior from people, because that’s a survival tactic in a large, cosmopolitan city. Trump, though, manages to piss off and offend everyone, because he’s not just weird and obnoxious. He’s a poseur — a guy who pretends to have class, to be rich and powerful, when really he’s just a half successful businessman with no special skills or abilities.

You know, New Yorkers get a lot of crap from outsiders but I’ve always felt welcome in the city. I love going up there. I love hearing all the different languages spoken and I just love the New York life. I could definitely see myself eventually living up tehre. Just sucks that it’s on the pricey side.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:27:23am

Weekend:

Junior: the meeting with the Russian lawyer was just about adoptions.

Tuesday:

Junior: Yeah, the meeting was supposed to be about Hillary dirt but the Russian didn’t deliver.

Normal person: this is pretty bad. The only thing worse would be the president’s paws actually on this.

Wednesday

President Trump signed off on Junior’s weekend lie about the meeting being about adoptions.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:28:25am

re: #248 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They realized that they can’t replace the A-10, so that’s off the replacement list. Nothing else in the world can do what the A-10 does with the same kind of ruthless efficiency.

Every time the A-10 is on the chopping block, the response is always the same: identify the plane that can do the same thing the A-10 does for the same value. Every time the response is: nope, there isn’t anything.

The F-35 doesn’t have the gun or survivability in the CAS role that the A-10 does. Nothing does.

There’s a reason that the B-52 is still around. Nothing else can do what it does - range, payload, flexibility. B-2 costs many times more, but lacks payload. B-1 has speed, but not payload.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:28:42am

re: #239 Stanley Sea

The Washington Post reported that Trump “is enraged that the Russia cloud still hangs over his presidency and is exasperated that his eldest son and namesake has become engulfed by it.” However, Trump is more upset with press coverage of Trump Jr. than with his son himself, per the Washington Post.

Naturally.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:29:32am

re: #255 Sir John Barron

Weekend:

Tuesday:

Wednesday

Wednesday Afternoon:

Immediately after the meeting with the Russian in June of last year, DJT was briefed on the meeting and was forwarded the email chain.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:29:49am

re: #242 Dr Lizardo

I only wish I’d be about 15 years older than I was back in ‘77 (I was 8); I would’ve loved to see all that craziness for myself. I’ve always been fascinated by the dark underbelly, the seedy side of life. Visited NYC with my parents in ‘78 and Times Square was, shall we say, the wildest thing I’d ever seen….a veritable carnival of debauchery and vice come to life.

That’s right in the neighborhood of our ages at that time. I remember walking over to Times Square some nights and just hanging out, watching the night life.

The rich folks went to Studio 54, and the regular folks went to Times Square. But at the time, everybody had the same objective - it was party time. I used to think the only people working around there were the bouncers and weed dealers and hookers.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:30:47am

re: #251 ObserverArt

Steve King.

Damn it, not wearing my glasses.
But, even if you replace Gohmert with King, the point still stands…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:31:36am

re: #256 lawhawk

They realized that they can’t replace the A-10, so that’s off the replacement list. Nothing else in the world can do what the A-10 does with the same kind of ruthless efficiency.

Every time the A-10 is on the chopping block, the response is always the same: identify the plane that can do the same thing the A-10 does for the same value. Every time the response is: nope, there isn’t anything.

The F-35 doesn’t have the gun or survivability in the CAS role that the A-10 does. Nothing does.

There’s a reason that the B-52 is still around. Nothing else can do what it does - range, payload, flexibility. B-2 costs many times more, but lacks payload. B-1 has speed, but not payload.

For that matter, the F-35 doesn’t have the capability to truly replace any of the planes on that list. “A jack of all trades, master of none” is a great tool to have, but in warfare, it is better to keep at least a few of the “masters” of their trade still in service. I’ve said that before about the F-35, and I’ll keep saying it until they either get rid of the damn thing, or at least come to their senses and start other projects to update our other aircraft appropriately.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:33:28am

re: #248 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I thought the F-35 was supposed to be replacing the A-10, F-16, F-15, and F/A-18 fleets all at once.

/half

you forgot the AV-8B, Harrier GR5 / GR7 / GR9

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wheat-dogg  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:34:03am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

You know, New Yorkers get a lot of crap from outsiders but I’ve always felt welcome in the city. I love going up there. I love hearing all the different languages spoken and I just love the New York life. I could definitely see myself eventually living up tehre. Just sucks that it’s on the pricey side.

NY people get a bad rap as being rude and unhelpful, but it’s usually the opposite. You get lost in the City? Ask someone for help. They will have a deer-in-headlights look for a second, because strangers in NYC don’t usually talk to one another out of the blue, but once their higher brain functions kick in, they will go out of their way to help you. I’ve even heard of New Yorkers hailing a cab and taking a tourist to a destination free of charge.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:34:24am

re: #258 Dr. Matt

Wednesday Afternoon:

Person: The only thing worse than this would be if Trump himself reached out to the Russian to see what dirt they could give on Hillary.

Wednesday night:

Candidate Trump called Russian lady lawyer and begged for dirt on Hillary.

Person: The only thing worse than this would be if there were phone records or tapes of such a call.

Midnight Thursday:

POTUS: in total transparency I am releasing the tapes of my innocent conversation with Russian lady lawyer about Clinton.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:35:07am

re: #259 makeitstop

That’s right in the neighborhood of our ages at that time. I remember walking over to Times Square some nights and just hanging out, watching the night life.

The rich folks went to Studio 54, and the regular folks went to Times Square. But at the time, everybody had the same objective - it was party time. I used to think the only people working around there were the bouncers and weed dealers and hookers.

It made quite an impression on me at a young age. I’ve shown some of my more advanced English students Taxi Driver, and some of them simply cannot believe that Times Square once really looked like that. I tell them, “Yeah, it totally was” and they’re genuinely shocked.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:35:26am

re: #261 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s the “sunken cost” problem of conservative capitalism: Well, we’ve already spent X billions on this project, if we scrap it now we’re out all that money.

Otherwise known as “fiscal conservatism.”

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:35:49am

re: #264 Sir John Barron

Friday:

Trump spends entire day in bed rage tweeting and rewatching Fox’s election day coverage.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:36:05am

re: #263 wheat-dogg

NY people get a bad rap as being rude and unhelpful, but it’s usually the opposite. You get lost in the City? Ask someone for help. They will have a deer-in-headlights look for a second, because strangers in NYC don’t usually talk to one another out of the blue, but once their higher brain functions kick in, they will go out of their way to help you. I’ve even heard of New Yorkers hailing a cab and taking a tourist to a destination free of charge.

The people who think NYers are totally rude are the same people who are convinced of small town America’s moral superiority.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:36:42am

re: #210 makeitstop

We’d usually break around midnight to head to a pub called Connolly’s down the block (still there, actually), right across the street from 54.

That’s the pub where Larry Kirwan and Black 47 play.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:37:25am

re: #253 Anymouse 🌹

First, [the President] should consolidate authority in Afghanistan with one person: an American viceroy who would lead all U.S. government and coalition efforts—including command, budget, policy, promotion and contracting—and report directly to the president. […]

For 250 years, the East India Company prevailed in the region through the use of private military units known as “presidency armies.” They were locally recruited and trained, supported and led by contracted European professional soldiers. The professionals lived, patrolled, and—when necessary—fought shoulder-to-shoulder with their local counterparts for multiyear deployments. […]

Prince has gone full East India Company. You never go full East India Company.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:37:39am

re: #263 wheat-dogg

NY people get a bad rap as being rude and unhelpful, but it’s usually the opposite. You get lost in the City? Ask someone for help. They will have a deer-in-headlights look for a second, because strangers in NYC don’t usually talk to one another out of the blue, but once their higher brain functions kick in, they will go out of their way to help you. I’ve even heard of New Yorkers hailing a cab and taking a tourist to a destination free of charge.

Back when the bridges and tunnels had toll booths (they’re pretty much all gone now!), if there was a car with out of state plates behind us, we’d throw the extra buck and pay them through.

Of course, the tolls nowadays make that a little cost-prohibitive.

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mmmirele  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:38:30am

David Daleiden’s lawyers have been held in contempt of court:

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A federal judge said Tuesday he will hold attorneys for the head of an anti-abortion group in contempt after links to videos that the judge had barred from release appeared on their website.

U.S. District Court Judge William Orrick said attorneys Steve Cooley, a former district attorney in Los Angeles, and Brentford Ferreira had violated his injunction.

The two attorneys represent David Daleiden, a leader of the Center for Medical Progress. The center has released several secretly recorded videos that it says show Planned Parenthood employees selling fetal tissue for profit, which is illegal. Planned Parenthood said the videos were deceptively edited to support false claims.

apnews.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:38:44am

re: #262 FormerDirtDart

you forgot the AV-8B, Harrier GR5 / GR7 / GR9

True, but that’s probably the only plane it IS an upgrade over. If they can keep it flying.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:40:15am

re: #269 Colère Tueur de Lapin

That’s the pub where Larry Kirwan and Black 47 play.

Love that band. I play with a few young Irish musicians in the city who are involved with them as backups. Never saw them in Connolly’s though.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:41:18am

re: #272 mmmirele

David Daleiden’s lawyers have been held in contempt of court:

apnews.com

Cue the RWNJ wailing OMG!! WORSE THAN HITLER!!!

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Lupin  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:41:38am

Newsflash: French prostitutes drinking lots of Perrier in anticipation of Pumpkin Petain’s visit tomorrow.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:42:36am

re: #182 HappyWarrior

What I find telling is the people who knew Trump the most i.e. New Yorkers especially people in NYC rejected him overwhelmingly. That to me really says something and that people who only really knew him as “that success business guy on the Apprentice” embraced him the most.

That’s not an excuse. Even with fawning coverage from all corners of the US media, who and what Trump is was always obvious. Forget scandals - the man’s public behaviour was frankly disgusting. It’s impossible to not know the character of the man. Those who support him either know that he’s terrible, but hate Democrats more because they’ve been brainwashed, or are so foul themselves that they like that he’s a liar and a bully with no thought for anyone but themselves.

The Trumpers who proudly stand tall and crow about hating Jews and blacks and gays and libtards and fuck your feelings are one thing. They are evil people. The end. But we all have been disappointed and appalled at those people we know who are decent in many ways, who care about their family and friends and who have so many redeeming qualities, yet are Trumpers. It is those people that have basically ended my faith in the American electorate. I ask those people, here is a man who you would not allow in your house. If he knew your children, you would warn them against him. If he came to your party and behaved this way, you’d ask him to leave. What possessed you to think this was acceptable in a leader?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:43:56am

re: #221 Dr. Matt

Which is just slightly above: “Don’t piss off your waitstaff.”

“Don’t piss off your secretary.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:44:00am

Steve King (R-IA4) threatens new Hillary Clinton investigations unless Democrats “move on” from the scandal surrounding Donald Trump and Russia.

thinkprogress.org

“If this continues — this immobilization of the presidency over these kind of things — it’s gonna force Congress to do an investigation, a complete and thorough investigation, and that means go back all the way to the 650,000 emails of Anthony Weiner and look at [former FBI Director James] Comey and his activities,” the House Judiciary Committee members said.

Pushed on the point by CNN’s Alisyn Camerota , King said that Comey and the special counsel investigating Trump are the real colluders.

“What I’m saying is this, that the Comey investigation — now him picking the special counsel on top of it — on its face, appears to be collusion.”

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Teukka  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:45:07am

re: #65 Ace-o-aces

Mad Cheeto is up:

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William Lewis  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:45:57am

re: #280 Teukka

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Your welcome. ////// ;)

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:46:08am

re: #278 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

“Don’t piss off your secretary.”

“Don’t piss off your accountant.”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:46:09am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹

Pushed on the point by CNN’s Alisyn Camerota , King said that Comey and the special counsel investigating Trump are the real colluders.

“What I’m saying is this, that the Comey investigation — now him picking the special counsel on top of it — on its face, appears to be collusion.”

There’s so much stupid in those two paragraphs.

The special counsel was picked after Trump shitcanned Comey. King is a special kind of dick.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:46:24am

re: #277 Renaissance_Man

That’s not an excuse. Even with fawning coverage from all corners of the US media, who and what Trump is was always obvious. Forget scandals - the man’s public behaviour was frankly disgusting. It’s impossible to not know the character of the man. Those who support him either know that he’s terrible, but hate Democrats more because they’ve been brainwashed, or are so foul themselves that they like that he’s a liar and a bully with no thought for anyone but themselves.

The Trumpers who proudly stand tall and crow about hating Jews and blacks and gays and libtards and fuck your feelings are one thing. They are evil people. The end. But we all have been disappointed and appalled at those people we know who are decent in many ways, who care about their family and friends and who have so many redeeming qualities, yet are Trumpers. It is those people that have basically ended my faith in the American electorate. I ask those people, here is a man who you would not allow in your house. If he knew your children, you would warn them against him. If he came to your party and behaved this way, you’d ask him to leave. What possessed you to think this was acceptable in a leader?

Oh, of course not. You misunderstand me. I’m merely stating that it’s telling that the people who are most familiar with Trump saw right through him and the people who didn’t know him at all actually ought his bullshit.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:47:04am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹

If this continues — this immobilization of the presidency over these kind of things — it’s gonna force Congress to do an investigation, a complete and thorough investigation, and that means go back all the way to the 650,000 emails of Anthony Weiner and look at [former FBI Director James] Comey and his activities,” the House Judiciary Committee members said.

BWWAAAAAAGGAGAGAGGAAAGAHAHAHHA

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:47:35am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹

Steve King (R-IA4) threatens new Hillary Clinton investigations unless Democrats “move on” from the scandal surrounding Donald Trump and Russia.

thinkprogress.org

Whatever, Representative Nuremeberg Laws-R.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:47:59am

Fuck the Republican Party man.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:48:20am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹

Steve King (R-IA4) threatens new Hillary Clinton investigations unless Democrats “move on” from the scandal surrounding Donald Trump and Russia.

thinkprogress.org

A truly epic case of projection. The only thing immobilizing the President is his own fat, dumb ass.

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sagehen  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:49:02am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:49:34am

re: #255 Sir John Barron

I have no doubt that Trump knew all about the June meeting last year before it occurred and was apprised of the contents afterwards.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:53:04am

The FCC will not weed out the stolen identities used to write love letters on behalf of telecom companies to kill Net Neutrality.
thedailybeast.com

In the meantime, tech companies are launching a “day of action” on Net Neutrality:
politico.com

The biggest U.S. internet companies aim to marshal their millions of users Wednesday in the fight to preserve net-neutrality rules — a summon-the-masses strategy that successfully killed Hollywood-backed anti-piracy legislation five years ago but which may carry less power in today’s GOP-dominated Washington.

Google, Facebook, Amazon and Snapchat, along with an array of other websites and apps taking part in the “day of action,” believe a firehose of internet users can convince President Donald Trump’s Federal Communications Commission to abandon its plan to gut the rules. The tactic mirrors the web “blackout” deployed in early 2012 to protest the Stop Online Piracy Act, which lawmakers dropped after receiving a flood of phone calls and emails.

(more at Politico)

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:55:40am

re: #278 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

“Don’t piss off your secretary.”

“Don’t call your administrative assistant a ‘secretary’.”

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 8:58:12am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

Fuck the Republican Party man.

This is 2006 all over. Republicans are now racing to call themselves and register themselves as “Independents” because they are too cowardly to label themselves a Republican. Fucking cowards. Fucking weasels. They never learn they their decisions for president are complete and utter train wrecks that do real damage to this country.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:00:04am

re: #293 Dr. Matt

This is 2006 all over. Republicans are now racing to call themselves and register themselves as “Independents” because they are too cowardly to label themselves a Republican. Fucking cowards. Fucking weasels. They never learn they their decisions for president are complete and utter train wrecks that do real damage to this country.

The GOP is also trying to spike the Census budget, presumably to preserve their gerrymandered majority in the House.

The Census should be gearing up right now but the Republicans want to cut their budget.

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LastYearsMan  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:03:03am

Oh FFS … The president of the United States of America just tweeted that he’s not watching TV. Seriously.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:03:24am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹

Steve King (R-IA4) threatens new Hillary Clinton investigations unless Democrats “move on” from the scandal surrounding Donald Trump and Russia.

thinkprogress.org

Who knew that collusion had whatever meaning you wanted? Collusion is the increase in my blood pressure caused by my need to punch King.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:05:07am

re: #295 LastYearsMan

Oh FFS … The president of the United States of America just tweeted that he’s not watching TV. Seriously.

Future generations won’t believe this Orange Clown was actually POTUS.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:06:34am

re: #201 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I’d say the halcyon days of Studio 54 was when Trump was probably first noticed by the national media - Studio 54 was briefly the talk of the nation, usually for salacious reasons. I dimly remember it being talked about on ABC News one evening, and that was before the place got shut down. I also rather dimly remember a brief segment on the Sex Pistols and their hapless US tour.

I was one of those seeing the Sex Pistols opening their tour in Homestead PA in December of 1977. I never saw such a bunch of punk fans until then. News trucks covered it (this was before CNN). The crowd went nuts when McLaren came out to introduce the band. You could smell the pot fumes. Fans slam danced in the aisles and spit at the band…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:07:51am

re: #298 Joe Bacon 🌹

I was one of those seeing the Sex Pistols opening their tour in Homestead PA in December of 1977. I never saw such a bunch of punk fans until then. News trucks covered it (this was before CNN). The crowd went nuts when McLaren came out to introduce the band. You could smell the pot fumes. Fans slam danced in the aisles and spit at the band…

Wild times and certainly one of the most bizarre concert tours in American music history.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:10:20am

re: #298 Joe Bacon 🌹

I was one of those seeing the Sex Pistols opening their tour in Homestead PA in December of 1977. I never saw such a bunch of punk fans until then. News trucks covered it (this was before CNN). The crowd went nuts when McLaren came out to introduce the band. You could smell the pot fumes. Fans slam danced in the aisles and spit at the band…

Jesus, you might be an effigy. I’m working on a time machine.. I need a motor from an old lawn mower to really tie the whole thing together. You wanna set the dial to that day, and see how it all went down?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:10:43am

re: #283 Sir John Barron

There’s so much stupid in those two paragraphs.

The special counsel was picked after Trump shitcanned Comey. King is a special kind of dick.

That is outright blackmail, IMO.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:11:27am

re: #272 mmmirele

David Daleiden’s lawyers have been held in contempt of court:

apnews.com

Good.

Daleiden is also facing contempt for the video links. Orrick did not immediately rule on whether he would hold Daleiden in contempt, though he said Daleiden would also be held liable for any costs stemming from the contempt finding against his attorneys.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:17:49am

re: #289 sagehen

And yet in all of this, all of the Russian interference (likely with Israel helping since Bibi hates Obama and possibly Clinton, too), there is nothing that came up. Because if there had been anything, we would have heard about it non-stop during the campaign.

Seriously, how freaking clean is Clinton? I mean, is there nothing that they could ding her for? To me, that is telling on so many levels about how honest they really are. Moreso than I ever even considered.

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William Lewis  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:17:58am

re: #298 Joe Bacon 🌹

I was one of those seeing the Sex Pistols opening their tour in Homestead PA in December of 1977. I never saw such a bunch of punk fans until then. News trucks covered it (this was before CNN). The crowd went nuts when McLaren came out to introduce the band. You could smell the pot fumes. Fans slam danced in the aisles and spit at the band…

I’d have rather seen the Clash open for the Who at Shea stadium but that’s just me :)

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:21:06am

re: #265 Dr Lizardo

It made quite an impression on me at a young age. I’ve shown some of my more advanced English students Taxi Driver, and some of them simply cannot believe that Times Square once really looked like that. I tell them, “Yeah, it totally was” and they’re genuinely shocked.

Remember that once David Letterman’s early stand-by punchlines usually included a reference to “the hookers in Times Square.”

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:21:24am

re: #301 Colère Tueur de Lapin

That is outright blackmail, IMO.

Extortion I think.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:22:07am

re: #304 William Lewis

I’d have rather seen the Clash open for the Who at Shea stadium but that’s just me :)

I was at the opening night of the infamous Bond’s show by the Clash - on the sidewalk, though. The place was so oversold they shut down the concert and cleared the building. I never got in.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:23:38am

re: #301 Colère Tueur de Lapin

That is outright blackmail, IMO.

OK, but it’s not illegal!!!!!*

*The new morality standard for the GOP

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:23:50am

re: #293 Dr. Matt

This is 2006 all over. Republicans are now racing to call themselves and register themselves as “Independents” because they are too cowardly to label themselves a Republican. Fucking cowards. Fucking weasels. They never learn they their decisions for president are complete and utter train wrecks that do real damage to this country.

You mean like Joke Scarborough just did.

I caught the video from last night’s Colbert show. What the hell is up with Joke’s hair? Can he get that shock of wheat to stack any higher?

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:24:54am

re: #309 ObserverArt

You mean like Joke Scarborough just did.

I caught the video from last night’s Colbert show. What the hell is up with Joke’s hair? Can he get that shock of wheat to stack any higher?

Second childhood. He is reverting to his teenaged self a la Zac Efron or Justin Bieber.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:25:29am

re: #305 Barefoot Grin

Remember that once David Letterman’s early stand-by punchlines usually included a reference to “the hookers in Times Square.”

Back in those days people used to tell me I looked like Peter Frampton (same haircut and color), who was riding high with the Frampton Comes Alive! record. We walked over to Times Square one night and members of our road crew told a couple of hookers that I was Frampton.

I ended up walking down the street trailed by a pack of hookers who kept asking me if I wanted a ‘date.’ Good times…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:25:49am

re: #306 MsJ

Extortion I think.

Well, you got me googling defs, now. The words are synonymous, but I’ll agree extortion has a better feel in this situation.

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JordanRules  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:26:17am

re: #289 sagehen

This has been my contention for a while. I think this is a really long con and he’s been being groomed for a while. His old tweets going after Obama on every policy position seem beyond his comprehension and attention. I would not be surprised if they were in play for Birther insanity. The more sanctions that were put in place, I’d bet the more intense the Kremlin’s disruptive tactics were and they targeted all types of GOPers based on shared ideology and grievances (Flynn, Pence, Turnip, Stein, Stone, Rohrabacher).

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:26:23am

re: #296 Belafon

Who knew that collusion had whatever meaning you wanted? Collusion is the increase in my blood pressure caused by my need to punch King.

I’m a very non-violent person. King, Cruz, Ryan, McConnell and a few others would be a challenge for me to be around if I ever came across them. I’d have to at least say something…and it probably would go downhill from there.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:26:33am

Damn, maybe trump is doing some good…making republicans think about the shit they are doing.

Who am I kidding? Not gonna happen, will it?

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BeachDem  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:28:19am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

True, see also Pence in Indiana.

And Nikki Haley, South Carolina.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:29:00am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹

Steve King (R-IA4) threatens new Hillary Clinton investigations unless Democrats “move on” from the scandal surrounding Donald Trump and Russia.

thinkprogress.org

The question is: are those like Steve King and Trey Gowdy who are actively working to undermine our democratic institutions also collaborating with the Russians or is it just that the entire mission of the GOP is to turn us into a single party regime, with the Republicans being the single party?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:29:04am

re: #292 Dr. Matt

“Don’t call your administrative assistant a ‘secretary’.”

LOL. Got me on that one and I dated myself! I was first a secretary and then an administrative assistant for the CEO of a psych hospital. During all those years, it was a bad thing to piss me off because I had the power to make the boss look bad or good to the higher ups simply based on their writing of memos. If I was treated decently, those unintelligible memos were turned into masterpieces that made them look smarter than they were, said what they wanted to say, not what they actually wrote down, and made them look good, giving them a chance at promotion. Piss me off and treat me like dirt? Get memos sent to the higher ups that the boss signed (without reviewing) that were typed exactly as they wrote them. They could never understand why they were passed up for promotions. Yeah, I’m evil like that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:29:05am

re: #316 BeachDem

And Nikki Haley, South Carolina.

Did you see that she complained about having to work on the 4th of July? What an asshole.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:29:36am

re: #311 makeitstop

Back in those days people used to tell me I looked like Peter Frampton (same haircut and color), who was riding high with the Frampton Comes Alive! record. We walked over to Times Square one night and members of our road crew told a couple of hookers that I was Frampton.

I ended up walking down the street trailed by a pack of hookers who kept asking me if I wanted a ‘date.’ Good times…

did you feel like they did?

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:30:58am
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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:31:02am

re: #303 MsJ

And yet in all of this, all of the Russian interference (likely with Israel helping since Bibi hates Obama and possibly Clinton, too), there is nothing that came up. Because if there had been anything, we would have heard about it non-stop during the campaign.

Seriously, how freaking clean is Clinton? I mean, is there nothing that they could ding her for? To me, that is telling on so many levels about how honest they really are. Moreso than I ever even considered.

All that baggage.

No one bothered to actually open the bags to find out there wasn’t anything in them but old Fox News broadcasts and recordings of Rush.

But everyone believed they were packed.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:31:26am

re: #311 makeitstop

Back in those days people used to tell me I looked like Peter Frampton (same haircut and color), who was riding high with the Frampton Comes Alive! record. We walked over to Times Square one night and members of our road crew told a couple of hookers that I was Frampton.

I ended up walking down the street trailed by a pack of hookers who kept asking me if I wanted a ‘date.’ Good times…

Ha! I’m a bit younger. At about that time I was working in a Dairy Queen near the campus of Univ. of Illinois (I was probably 15 or so). On the day of the Van Halen concert I saw Dave and Eddie with their long long hair walk by with about 10 high school girls in tow going towards their hotel nearby. I was most impressed.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:31:31am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

Did you see that she complained about having to work on the 4th of July? What an asshole.

Actually I suspect she was just being rather facetious there. I wouldn’t go hard on her for that tweet.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:32:23am

re: #324 Sir John Barron

Actually I suspect she was just being rather facetious there. I wouldn’t go hard on her for that tweet.

Fair enough.

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Teukka  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:33:48am
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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:34:34am

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

did you feel like they did?

oohhhhhhhhh, that’s true….

talkbox solo

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:34:36am

re: #326 Teukka

A year ahead of schedule. :-/

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:35:18am

re: #322 ObserverArt

All that baggage.

No one bothered to actually open the bags to find out there wasn’t anything in them but old Fox News broadcasts and recordings of Rush.

But everyone believed they were packed.

If she had been elected, the Republican House would have made her life a living hell. After all, they damaged her through their Benghazi investigations even knowing there was no there there. I had friends who believed that there was some underlying malfeasance because why else would they be investigating her.

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Teukka  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:35:42am

re: #328 GlutenFreeJesus

A year ahead of schedule. :-/

Yeah. Shit be moving much faster than expected. No word yet on shape of turd, distance to rotary air distribution apparatus, and status of said apparatus.
*shakes head*

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:36:11am

re: #118 darthstar

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No boss, really. I have been working my ass off out here on the golf course. No time for anything else! Bigly!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:36:53am

re: #329 Hecuba’s daughter

If she had been elected, the Republican House would have made her life a living hell. After all, they damaged her through their Benghazi investigations even knowing there was no there there. I had friends who believed that there was some underlying malfeasance because why else would they be investigating her.

Really it was just a continuation of Whitewater.

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BeachDem  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:36:54am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Damn coastal elites. //

The “Hollywood Elites” had his number years ago as well.

Veronica Mars show from 2006:

You all packed? Veronica: Vagabond shoes and all. And pepper spray. For if we run into that Trump character.

Also shows like Gilmore Girls made fun of him all the time, and Sports Night, and Ab Fab (ok, I watch a lot of old TV shows—don’t judge!)

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:37:22am

re: #324 Sir John Barron

Actually I suspect she was just being rather facetious there. I wouldn’t go hard on her for that tweet.

Nope. Definitely am not cutting her a break. Have you ever once heard anything like that from anyone in the Obama admin? Or Bush before him? How many people work on July 4th?

It wasn’t funny or witty in any fashion. In a presidential administration, sorry, you’re 24/7/365.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:39:20am

re: #326 Teukka

In other icebergs on the move:
Antarctica’s Larsen C ice shelf finally breaks, releases giant iceberg

We were discussing that a bit up thread. We had heard reports around 8:30 AM eastern time it had just finally split all the way.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:39:49am

Kind of like if the President commended the troops in Iraq & Syria, but not wanting to take a side against or say anything negative about ISIS …

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:40:45am

re: #324 Sir John Barron

Actually I suspect she was just being rather facetious there. I wouldn’t go hard on her for that tweet.

I agree. People often intend to be clever or cute in their tweets or posts and then are castigated because others take their remarks seriously. If you don’t include sarc tags, it can be difficult for others to determine how the remarks should be interpreted, especially those who don’t know you.

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Teukka  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:41:02am

re: #335 ObserverArt

We were discussing that a bit up thread. We had heard reports around 8:30 AM eastern time it had just finally split all the way.

Oh. Didn’t show up with the first search I made.

Edit: Ref to existing response chain.

re: #79 ObserverArt

Morning,

I have the Today show on and weatherman Al Roker said he just got a report the huge piece of the Larsen Ice Shelf of Antarctic ice everyone was thinking was going to break off in a year or so just broke off today.

He said it has the volume of water of Lake Erie and it is an indication - pause - of something serious going on - pause - with the climate.

It appears Al wanted to say a little more but realized it is a hot button issue and he had better back down what he said.

Here we go. And we have blockheads in politics denying it all.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:41:35am

re: #333 BeachDem

The “Hollywood Elites” had his number years ago as well.

Veronica Mars show from 2006:

You all packed? Veronica: Vagabond shoes and all. And pepper spray. For if we run into that Trump character.

Also shows like Gilmore Girls made fun of him all the time, and Sports Night, and Ab Fab (ok, I watch a lot of old TV shows—don’t judge!)

Sesame Street made fun of him too.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:41:53am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:42:06am

re: #336 FormerDirtDart

Kind of like if the President commended the troops in Iraq & Syria, but not wanting to take a side against or say anything negative about ISIS …

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But if them Bundy boys had been black and smoking grass………

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:42:57am

re: #329 Hecuba’s daughter

If she had been elected, the Republican House would have made her life a living hell. After all, they damaged her through their Benghazi investigations even knowing there was no there there. I had friends who believed that there was some underlying malfeasance because why else would they be investigating her.

Which is why police get away with so much.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:43:34am

re: #332 Barefoot Grin

Really it was just a continuation of Whitewater.

With the sole purpose of being politically damaging.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:43:39am

re: #329 Hecuba’s daughter

If she had been elected, the Republican House would have made her life a living hell. After all, they damaged her through their Benghazi investigations even knowing there was no there there. I had friends who believed that there was some underlying malfeasance because why else would they be investigating her.

And let me guess, those same folks are now saying why all the investigations of Trump, there is nothing there.

But I did notice you used the words ‘had friends’ so maybe you don’t know what they are thinking now.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:46:40am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

But if them Bundy boys had been black and smoking grass………

D.A.R.E. their asses straight to prison…

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:47:14am

re: #336 FormerDirtDart

Kind of like if the President commended the troops in Iraq & Syria, but not wanting to take a side against or say anything negative about ISIS …

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I am sure that the feds that are under him appreciate that. I mean they only had guns pointed at them.

Honestly, little Timmy McVeigh was an ok dude.

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:47:57am

re: #300 (Bert the Turtle)

re: #298 Joe Bacon 🌹

I was one of those seeing the Sex Pistols opening their tour in Homestead PA in December of 1977. I never saw such a bunch of punk fans until then. News trucks covered it (this was before CNN). The crowd went nuts when McLaren came out to introduce the band. You could smell the pot fumes. Fans slam danced in the aisles and spit at the band…

Jesus, you might be an effigy. I’m working on a time machine.. I need a motor from an old lawn mower to really tie the whole thing together. You wanna set the dial to that day, and see how it all went down?

About a month earlier, I saw The Jam at their first US gig (second show, actually) at The Whiskey a Go Go. Show opener: Johnny Cougar.

/effigy candidate

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:49:22am

re: #343 MsJ

With the sole purpose of being politically damaging.

Whitewater turned up a sordid but consensual blowjob; why not see what Benghazi might yield if we check all of her emails….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:49:44am

re: #333 BeachDem

The “Hollywood Elites” had his number years ago as well.

Veronica Mars show from 2006:

You all packed? Veronica: Vagabond shoes and all. And pepper spray. For if we run into that Trump character.

Also shows like Gilmore Girls made fun of him all the time, and Sports Night, and Ab Fab (ok, I watch a lot of old TV shows—don’t judge!)

Along with Rolling Stone and Spy magazine…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:50:35am

re: #347 wrenchwench

About a month earlier, I saw The Jam at their first US gig (second show, actually) at The Whiskey a Go Go. Show opener: Johnny Cougar.

/effigy candidate

I saw Johnny Cougar and the Zone open for The Kinks. It was one of the best shows ever from start to finish.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:51:05am

re: #347 wrenchwench

About a month earlier, I saw The Jam at their first US gig (second show, actually) at The Whiskey a Go Go. Show opener: Johnny Cougar.

/effigy candidate

My first concert was at the tender age of seven, back in 1976. KISS, Anaheim Stadium, Destroyer Tour.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:52:12am

re: #317 Hecuba’s daughter

The question is: are those like Steve King and Trey Gowdy who are actively working to undermine our democratic institutions also collaborating with the Russians or is it just that the entire mission of the GOP is to turn us into a single party regime, with the Republicans being the single party?

Are you now or have you ever met with a Russian national and not made the meeting public?

Are you now or have you ever met with Russian national and lied about it?

Are you now or have you ever covered for someone who met with the Russians and they lied about it?

It’d be wrong to speculate about King’s role in all of this. /

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Danack  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:52:19am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart

Why would anyone ask Louie Gohmert for his opinion on anything?

urbandictionary.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:52:27am

re: #340 FormerDirtDart

NASA ✔ @NASA
An iceberg about the size of Delaware split off from Antarctica’s Larsen C ice shelf sometime between July 10-12: go.nasa.gov
11:41 AM - 12 Jul 2017

The environmental damage that this administration and its GOP allies are inflicting on us is far more frightening than any of the other harm they can do. This damage may be irreversible and devastate the planet for centuries to come — if not longer. The acidification of the oceans is what keeps me up at night.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:53:04am

Yup, yup and yup. This is asking the right questions…which I am pretty certain Muller will do.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:53:32am

re: #348 Barefoot Grin

Whitewater turned up a sordid but consensual blowjob; why not see what Benghazi might yield if we check all of her emails….

and check under her skirt.

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Danack  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:55:35am

re: #162 Dr. Matt

At this point, what will it take to convince Trump’s deplorables that their lord and master is incapable of telling the truth?

That will never happen, not because of a lack of evidence,
You’ve got it the wrong way round. They aren’t Trump’s deplorable because they’ve been tricked; they are Trump’s deplorables due to their inability to tell truth from fiction, and instead prefer to believe whichever reality makes them feel best.

That is never going to change.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:56:31am
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BeachDem  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:57:24am

re: #324 Sir John Barron

Actually I suspect she was just being rather facetious there. I wouldn’t go hard on her for that tweet.

Nikki is not smart enough to be facetious.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:57:25am

re: #358 MsJ

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But don’t call them deplorable.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:57:40am

re: #357 Danack

they are Trump’s deplorables due to their inability to tell truth from fiction,

Oh, I think they can, they just want everyone to accept their fiction as fact.

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 9:57:59am

re: #350 Barefoot Grin

I saw Johnny Cougar and the Zone open for The Kinks. It was one of the best shows ever from start to finish.

I saw The Kinks three times! One time they said happy birthday to my boyfriend (the biggest Kinks fan ever, had all the albums and all the bootlegs) because I wrote to them (at three places) and said we’d be in the audience on his bday. Waited at the backdoor to say hi, and all the other groupies thought it was Dave Davies’ bday because it was the same first name.

re: #351 Dr Lizardo

My first concert was at the tender age of seven, back in 1976. KISS, Anaheim Stadium, Destroyer Tour.

Been to the stadium, but it was to see The Angels.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:00:14am

And this is happening in the county next to mine…

Nassau County Attorney Carnell Foskey is threatening to take “appropriate legal action” if Nassau Events Center, the operator of the renovated Nassau Coliseum, does not cancel a concert featuring former Pink Floyd guitarist Roger Waters, citing his support for a movement to boycott Israeli goods and services.

Waters always seems to generate controversy. I’m figuring his no-nonsense anti-Trump stance factors into this at least a little. This is how he opens his show on the new tour.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:01:52am

re: #362 wrenchwench

I saw The Kinks three times! One time they said happy birthday to my boyfriend (the biggest Kinks fan ever, had all the albums and all the bootlegs) because I wrote to them (at three places) and said we’d be in the audience on his bday. Waited at the backdoor to say hi, and all the other groupies thought it was Dave Davies’ bday because it was the same first name.

Been to the stadium, but it was to see The Angels.

Well, I can say that I saw pre-plane crash Lynrd Skynrd…with Gary Wright, Peter Frampton and Yes at a big open-air in Chicago…basically a playlist of college radio music in 1977…

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:02:29am

re: #347 wrenchwench

About a month earlier, I saw The Jam at their first US gig (second show, actually) at The Whiskey a Go Go. Show opener: Johnny Cougar.

/effigy candidate

Oh that would have been fun. I still follow Paul Weller today.

His Heavy Soul album is in play all the time. As are about 5 of his other solo (he has a steady band) works.

My favorite tune from it…

Paul Weller - Peacock Suit

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:05:04am

re: #355 MsJ

He raises all kinds of interesting points, starting with the most obvious - the full and unredacted email chain. He cut out header info, and didn’t identify all the people on the email (daddy, ivanka, etc.) when we know that Kushner and Manafort were included. The sequence of emails also appears incomplete given that we know that this was a reschedule/adjusted schedule on the meeting, which means those two buffoons were in the loop before this.

How would anyone know the full scope here? Demanding the full email server and the ability to search both by sender and recipient. They’d also check the metadata to see what other tidbits these con artists were up to and how Junior was really responding.

Nothing about what Junior did here is legal, or legit, and this mess means a lot more work for the lawyers.

His lawyer must be pitching a fit over Junior’s idiotic postings, as well as the fact that he stated he’d do things differently (which I read to mean that he’d do things differently so as not to get caught, not that he’d choose to do things differently to avoid any criminal activity).

But if you read it that he’d do things differently, then that’s admission against his self-interest that he knows something was wrong, and he’d avoid that behavior in the future. With the crimes involved relating to intent, this is critical bit of evidence.

The emails are plenty of evidence. Timing of meetings on the 9th are also evidence, and Trump’s tweets from that day, and following tweets from Trump, his cronies (such as Rudy), are circumstantial evidence that they thought the Trump Jr./Manafort/Kushner meeting would pay dividends going forward.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:05:42am

re: #353 Danack

urbandictionary.com

Surprised it didn’t have a See Louie Gohmert annotation/link

(yeah, you should try the link)

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:06:08am

re: #321 MsJ

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:06:28am

re: #357 Danack

That will never happen, not because of a lack of evidence,
You’ve got it the wrong way round. They aren’t Trump’s deplorable because they’ve been tricked; they are Trump’s deplorables due to their inability to tell truth from fiction, and instead prefer to believe whichever reality makes them feel best.

That is never going to change.

They live in a bubble and reject any evidence that doesn’t comport with what Faux News, Breitbart etc tell them. They see only what they want to see (as Westworld says “That doesn’t look like anything to me”) and filter out everything else. They have their story of the world and nothing can dislodge it, except, occasionally, if something hits close to home or they are the direct victim of an action.

Years ago, our brother once insisted that we watch a youtube clip on a topic dear to the right wing heart; it was clear that the point the clip made was exactly the opposite to his interpretation but he couldn’t be dissuaded.

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BeachDem  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:06:45am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Along with Rolling Stone and Spy magazine…

Yep—there were a whole lot of peeps who saw him for what he was.

The Veronica Mars line just gets me because, first of all, it was show aimed at a young demographic (I’m young at heart—I LOVED that show) and second of all, because it addressed his lechy rep.

You all packed? Veronica: Vagabond shoes and all. And pepper spray. For if we run into that Trump character.

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sagehen  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:06:47am

re: #315 MsJ

Damn, maybe trump is doing some good…making republicans think about the shit they are doing.

[House Republicans ignore Trump, propose to fully fund the Great Lakes cleanup the president wanted to slash:]

Who am I kidding? Not gonna happen, will it?

They’re just smarter than him, and with a grasp of geography. They understand that Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania are all Great Lakes states…

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:06:58am

How is Donny Jr’s behavior any different than the countless pedophiles on To Catch a Predator? Those pedos arranged a meeting with the hope of engaging in illegal and immoral behavior. Hell, much like the pedos, Donny Jr even said “I love it”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:09:58am

re: #365 ObserverArt

Oh that would have been fun. I still follow Paul Weller today.

His Heavy Soul album is in play all the time. As are about 5 of his other solo (he has a steady band) works.

My favorite tune from it…

[Embedded content]

Video

Great musician. Shame he is such a mean, humorless git…

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BeachDem  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:10:01am

re: #362 wrenchwench

I saw The Kinks three times! One time they said happy birthday to my boyfriend (the biggest Kinks fan ever, had all the albums and all the bootlegs) because I wrote to them (at three places) and said we’d be in the audience on his bday. Waited at the backdoor to say hi, and all the other groupies thought it was Dave Davies’ bday because it was the same first name.

Been to the stadium, but it was to see The Angels.

I saw The Beatles twice (Forest Hills and Shea Stadium)

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:10:41am
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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:11:12am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:11:41am

re: #372 Dr. Matt

How is Donny Jr’s behavior any different than the countless pedophiles on To Catch a Predator? Those pedos arranged a meeting with the hope of engaging in illegal and immoral behavior. Hell, much like the pedos, Donny Jr even said “I love it”.

Or countless expectant Johns, going to hotels with policewomen disguised as hookers. You don’t get off just because you didn’t get off, if you catch my drift.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:12:03am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:12:38am

re: #376 Stanley Sea

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JFC.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:14:33am

re: #376 Stanley Sea

Latest Trump defense (as judged by harassing phone calls, emails& twitter) is that Veselnitskaya was working for CIA & was setting up Don Jr

— Michael McFaul

Veselnitskaya is CIA setting Don Jr up!

“Can you show us evidence of this?”

You just hate Trump and want to obstruct him!

“Can you share the source of your claim about Veselnitskaya and the CIA?”

We have evidence! We know!

“OK, but can you show us the evidence you’re citing? How do you know this?”

Stop watching CNN loser libtard!

“OK see ya”

UR so owned!

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:15:00am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:17:21am

re: #381 MsJ

I needed that laugh so badly.

Mostly for the last 30 seconds of it.

Oh man.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:18:19am

On the subject of concerts, Alice Francis is coming to Prague. I think I’m gonna have to check that out; it’s this October at Lucerna Music Palace.

Alice Francis - Shoot Him down! (Official Video) (Break his neck, neck, neck, neck)

Looking forward to that. Oh, and damn………she’s gorgeous!!

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scottslemmons  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:19:07am

Douthat is ranting about porn again. Game of Thrones is too porny for him, but he knows why Dirty Libruls love it — because they want to be RULED BY KINGS.

Republicans sure as hell do love embracing their inner supervillains.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:22:10am

re: #376 Stanley Sea

HAHAHA!

Assume, for a moment, that’s true. He’s still in trouble for seeking it rather than calling the FBI.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:23:08am

About 20-odd miles outside Wlikes-Barre PA
(I looked it up so you don’t have too)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:24:17am

re: #384 scottslemmons

Douthat is ranting about porn again. Game of Thrones is too porny for him, but he knows why Dirty Libruls love it — because they want to be RULED BY KINGS.

[Embedded content]

Republicans sure as hell do love embracing their inner supervillains.

Or maybe we like a good story, Ross. Shocking I know.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:24:47am

re: #384 scottslemmons

Douthat is ranting about porn again. Game of Thrones is too porny for him, but he knows why Dirty Libruls love it — because they want to be RULED BY KINGS.

Republicans sure as hell do love embracing their inner supervillains.

Why does he think the audience is all, or majority, liberal?

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:25:01am

re: #374 BeachDem

I saw The Beatles twice (Forest Hills and Shea Stadium)

My aunt was babysitting the first 6 kids while my pregnant-with-#-7 mom went to Europe with my gramma, and my aunt (from Joliet) got to see The Beatles at Hollywood Bowl. I was too young to be jealous. I later saw The Smothers Brothers there. I was too young to get any jokes. Now Soupy Sales at the Circle K, I got that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:25:36am

re: #388 Belafon

Why does he think the audience is all, or majority, liberal?

Because he’s an obnoxious right wing asshole who projects all his dislikes on to the left.

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scottslemmons  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:26:18am

re: #388 Belafon

Why does he think the audience is all, or majority, liberal?

Clearly, all the good Republicans are either watching Hee Haw reruns or tapes of “Celebrity Apprentice.” Or since we’re talking about Douthat, the 700 Club.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:27:02am

Trump’s lawyer Kasowitz is going to have a hell of a time trying to defend Fatass on Russia if he can’t look at half the evidence.

The ongoing investigations into alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia involve reams of classified material. Yet Marc Kasowitz, the New York lawyer whom President Donald Trump has hired to defend him in these inquiries, told ProPublica through a spokesman that he does not have a security clearance — the prerequisite for access to government secrets. Nor does he expect to seek one.

Several lawyers who have represented presidents and senior government officials said they could not imagine handling a case so suffused with sensitive material without a clearance.

“No question in my mind — in order to represent President Trump in this matter you would have to get a very high level of clearance because of the allegations involving Russia,” said Robert Bennett, who served as President Bill Clinton’s personal lawyer. Like many Washington lawyers, Bennett has held security clearances throughout his career.

As the spotlight on Russia intensifies with new email disclosures that his son, son-in-law, and then-campaign manager met in June 2016 with a Russian attorney who promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton, Kasowitz’s lack of a security clearance could hinder the president’s legal and political response to the scandal.

One possible explanation for Kasowitz’s decision not to pursue a clearance: He might have trouble getting one.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:28:26am

re: #362 wrenchwench

I saw The Kinks three times! One time they said happy birthday to my boyfriend (the biggest Kinks fan ever, had all the albums and all the bootlegs) because I wrote to them (at three places) and said we’d be in the audience on his bday. Waited at the backdoor to say hi, and all the other groupies thought it was Dave Davies’ bday because it was the same first name.

Been to the stadium, but it was to see The Angels.

I think I saw the “Celluloid Heroes” tour. Ray and Dave stayed on opposite ends of the stage that night—didn’t seem to be getting along. But the tension resulted in a great, super-charged show.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:28:59am

re: #388 Belafon

Why does he think the audience is all, or majority, liberal?

Because cons don’t do tittys - unless it’s two girls and a cup.

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BeachDem  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:29:26am

re: #384 scottslemmons

Douthat is ranting about porn again. Game of Thrones is too porny for him, but he knows why Dirty Libruls love it — because they want to be RULED BY KINGS.

[Embedded content]

Republicans sure as hell do love embracing their inner supervillains.

He should have stuck to Junior and the emails—he actually had a funny tweet about it—complete with a Burn After Reading gif.

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:30:15am

re: #393 Barefoot Grin

I think I saw the “Celluloid Heroes” tour. Ray and Dave stayed on opposite ends of the stage that night—didn’t seem to be getting along. But the tension resulted in a great, super-charged show.

/no longer too young to be jealous

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:30:16am

re: #392 makeitstop

Trump’s lawyer Kasowitz is going to have a hell of a time trying to defend Fatass on Russia if he can’t look at half the evidence.

Maybe Hillary can represent him. /dripping

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:30:39am

re: #390 HappyWarrior

Because he’s an obnoxious right wing asshole who projects all his dislikes on to the left.

And, as usual, the column he links to doesn’t even say what he thinks it does. It is a mockery of another piece written by someone who’s just as much of a tool as Douthat, that suggests that nerd porn is bad because nerds suck and deserve swirlies. Douthat, being a cultist, reads that and automatically projects his one overriding thought - liberals are evil - onto it. I imagine that he projects that thought onto basically everything he reads. Reading a restaurant menu with this thought uppermost in mind must be awful.

Oh wait, David Brooks just did that and wrote about it.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:31:04am

re: #392 makeitstop

Several lawyers who have represented presidents and senior government officials said they could not imagine handling a case so suffused with sensitive material without a clearance.

snip

One possible explanation for Kasowitz’s decision not to pursue a clearance: He might have trouble getting one.

So you’re saying this is all going to get way more clusterf0cked?

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BeachDem  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:31:32am

re: #389 wrenchwench

My aunt was babysitting the first 6 kids while my pregnant-with-#-7 mom went to Europe with my gramma, and my aunt (from Joliet) got to see The Beatles at Hollywood Bowl. I was too young to be jealous. I later saw The Smothers Brothers there. I was too young to get any jokes. Now Soupy Sales at the Circle K, I got that.

FINALLY an advantage to being an old! (Now get off my lawn, child)

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:32:02am

re: #384 scottslemmons

The porn-y side of Game of Thrones helps keeps liberals deluded about why they like the show:observationdeck.kinja.com

— Ross Douthat

Ross really needs to get out more.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:32:36am

re: #398 Renaissance_Man

And, as usual, the column he links to doesn’t even say what he thinks it does. It is a mockery of another piece written by someone who’s just as much of a tool as Douthat, that suggests that nerd porn is bad because nerds suck and deserve swirlies. Douthat, being a cultist, reads that and automatically projects his one overriding thought - liberals are evil - onto it. I imagine that he projects that thought onto basically everything he reads. Reading a restaurant menu with this thought uppermost in mind must be awful.

Oh wait, David Brooks just did that and wrote about it.

You elitists and your salamis!

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:33:00am

re: #373 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Great musician. Shame he is such a mean, humorless git…

You know him?

re: #390 HappyWarrior

Because he’s an obnoxious right wing asshole who projects all his dislikes on to the left.

Thought for a sec I was reading about Paul Weller again.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:33:53am

re: #399 Sir John Barron

snip

So you’re saying this is all going to get way more clusterf0cked?

I honestly do not think we have the first concept on just how clusterf0cked this is going to be. It will reach epic levels of cluster and (please dog) the best f0cking a president has ever had.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:33:57am

re: #384 scottslemmons

Douthat is ranting about porn again. Game of Thrones is too porny for him, but he knows why Dirty Libruls love it — because they want to be RULED BY KINGS.

[Embedded content]

Republicans sure as hell do love embracing their inner supervillains.

He is aware that those kings he says we want to be ruled by keep getting killed, right?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:34:25am

re: #403 wrenchwench

You know him?

Thought for a sec I was reading about Paul Weller again.

In all the interviews I have read about him, he comes across as a bit of a pusillanimous twit.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:35:10am

re: #405 Blind Frog Belly White

He is aware that those kings he says we want to be ruled by keep getting killed, right?

Nah, he’s too invested in the tatas.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:35:37am

‘Dumd’ Would-Be Bank Robber Gets 3 Years In Prison

“I f—-ed up. I just needed the money,” he told police.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:36:00am

re: #402 MsJ

You elitists and your salamis!

Technically, the term is ‘Salumi’.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:36:34am

re: #399 Sir John Barron

snip

So you’re saying this is all going to get way more clusterf0cked?

It’s how the Trump Cult rolls. Why just fuck something when you can clusterfuck it?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:36:47am
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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:37:18am

re: #406 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In all the interviews I have read about him, he comes across as a bit of a pusillanimous twit.

Oh, well. It happens.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:37:19am

Zaphod went to Russia to get the nasty on HRC.

HRC went to Ukraine to get the nasty on Zaphod.

And the world goes round and round …

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:37:29am

re: #407 MsJ

Nah, he’s too invested in the tatas.

Come for the tatas, stay for the repeated, senseless deaths of characters you had grown to love.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:38:16am

re: #388 Belafon

Why does he think the audience is all, or majority, liberal?

The epilogue in the 5th book does take a subtle shot at the Tea Party and the GOP.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:38:21am
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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:38:41am

re: #403 wrenchwench

You know him?

Weller’s got a rep for being a humorless bastard.

Noel Gallagher from Oasis has mocked him quite a bit. OTOH, Noel mocks everybody.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:39:17am

re: #374 BeachDem

I saw The Beatles twice (Forest Hills and Shea Stadium)

Brat!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:40:08am

re: #416 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

“How can we get women to stop accusing men of rape?”

Wait! Wait! I know this one! “Don’t rape them.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:40:15am

re: #398 Renaissance_Man

And, as usual, the column he links to doesn’t even say what he thinks it does. It is a mockery of another piece written by someone who’s just as much of a tool as Douthat, that suggests that nerd porn is bad because nerds suck and deserve swirlies. Douthat, being a cultist, reads that and automatically projects his one overriding thought - liberals are evil - onto it. I imagine that he projects that thought onto basically everything he reads. Reading a restaurant menu with this thought uppermost in mind must be awful.

Oh wait, David Brooks just did that and wrote about it.

Yeah I saw Brooks garbage too. It’s funny ot me. In their pathetic efforts to call liberals elitists, they end up showing themselves to be far more elitist themeslves.

421
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:44:57am

re: #420 HappyWarrior

Yeah I saw Brooks garbage too. It’s funny ot me. In their pathetic efforts to call liberals elitists, they end up showing themselves to be far more elitist themeslves.

Who among us has not found himself wondering what ‘Sopressata’ is?
/////

422
ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:45:38am

re: #373 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Great musician. Shame he is such a mean, humorless git…

Really? My buddy caught him at Bogart’s in Cincinnati a couple years ago and got him to sign a CD and one of his guitars. Said he was very easy to talk to etc.

423
Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:45:41am
424
makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:46:08am

re: #417 makeitstop

Weller’s got a rep for being a humorless bastard.

Noel Gallagher from Oasis has mocked him quite a bit. OTOH, Noel mocks everybody.

Some history:

Paul Weller: Yes, I Threatened to break Noel Gallagher’s legs

Noel Gallagher says he had to throw Paul Weller out of his house

Oddly enough, they’re actually good friends. Brits, go figure.

425
Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:46:48am

re: #419 Blind Frog Belly White

“How can we get women to stop accusing men of rape?”

Wait! Wait! I know this one! “Don’t rape them.”

Yeah, I just saw this.

I don’t think it will turn out well.

Betsy is a tool.

426
Ace-o-aces  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:46:53am
427
wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:46:53am

re: #417 makeitstop

Weller’s got a rep for being a humorless bastard.

Noel Gallagher from Oasis has mocked him quite a bit. OTOH, Noel mocks everybody.

Not much humor here:

The Jam Bricks and Mortar + Lyrics

Even less here:

eCommerce Vs. Brick and Mortar Business

428
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:46:56am

re: #411 FormerDirtDart

Just waiting for her one on one with Cosby….

429
BeachDem  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:47:06am

Uh oh—I sense there will be a barrage of rage tweets from the yam about Democratic obstructionism.

Trump’s pick to head the FDIC has withdrawn his name from consideration.

430
MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:47:57am

re: #409 Blind Frog Belly White

Technically, the term is ‘Salumi’.

See? SEE?

(snicker)

431
Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:48:31am

You know, I don’t say it to often, but Charles has excellent taste in music.

432
jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:48:38am

Salutations to the Salumeria.

433
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:48:46am

re: #425 Birth Control Works

Yeah, I just saw this.

I don’t think it will turn out well.

Betsy is a tool.

Women who drink and put themselves into compromising positions with strangers deserve whatever happens to them.

That was pretty much the universally socially accepted view until the 1980’s and B DeV is bent on returning us to it.

434
plansbandc  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:49:21am

re: #303 MsJ

Or absolute genius level at hiding shit.

/// mostly

435
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:49:31am

re: #431 Birth Control Works

You know, I don’t say it to often, but Charles has excellent taste in music.

One of the many things I enjoy about this site

436
Belafon  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:50:58am

re: #433 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Women who drink and put themselves into compromising positions with strangers deserve whatever happens to them.

That was pretty much the universally socially accepted view until the 1980’s and B DeV is bent on returning us to it.

“And if they don’t like it, they can just stay in the kitchen, and only go out with a male escort.”

437
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:52:14am

re: #432 jaunte

Salutations to the Salumeria.

This is what I think when I hear the words ‘Teacup Pig’.

438
Interesting Times  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:52:36am

re: #425 Birth Control Works

Yeah, I just saw this.

I don’t think it will turn out well.

Betsy is a tool.

As well as an Aunt Lydia/Serena Joy.

And 53% of white women voted for this crap. Do they like the idea of being on the receiving end of this?

439
Belafon  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:53:33am

re: #438 Interesting Times

As well as an Aunt Lydia/Serena Joy.

And 53% of white women voted for this crap. Do they like the idea of being on the receiving end of this?

[Embedded content]

They don’t think they’ll be on the receiving end.

440
MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:53:50am

re: #437 Blind Frog Belly White

This is what I think when I hear the words ‘Teacup Pig’.

[Embedded content]

Uhm…ewwww.

441
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:55:01am

re: #438 Interesting Times

The sad truth is that there are millions of Kim Davis types who accept that as their lot in life.

442
lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:55:34am

OFFS….

443
jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:56:23am
444
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:56:34am

re: #433 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Women who drink and put themselves into compromising positions with strangers deserve whatever happens to them.

That was pretty much the universally socially accepted view until the 1980’s and B DeV is bent on returning us to it.

Well, you know, you can’t expect men to control their urges. Women mustn’t do anything to entice them. Like dress scantily.

OTOH, if women want to cover up TOO much, they might be terrorists.
////////////////////

There is SO MUCH that is completely fucked up about our culture’s approach to gender and sex, and we’re only just starting to fix it, and then 46.1% of American voters get spooked by all the changes and try desperately to pull us back to the Bad Old Days.

445
wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:56:48am

re: #441 Joe Bacon 🌹

The sad truth is that there are millions of Kim Davis types who accept that as their lot in life.

And take on the mission of condemning their daughters to the same. And other people’s daughters.

446
gocart mozart  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:56:54am
447
makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:57:03am

re: #427 wrenchwench

Not much humor here:

[Embedded content]

Great song, though.

In retrospect, The Jam never really broke through in the US because Weller mostly wrote about stuff that no one outside of England knew about or understood.

The Clash, on the other hand, went global - because Strummer and Jones had a handle on taking stories of class warfare in the UK and making them universal.

Can’t take anything away from those early Jam singles, though. And they were some snappy dressers, to boot. They don’t call Weller ‘The Modfather’ for nothing.

The Jam - Start

448
wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:59:09am

re: #446 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

You misspelled his name. It’s Douche-hat.

449
jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:59:35am

Republicans are vigorously destroying our government.

450
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:59:53am

re: #440 MsJ

Uhm…ewwww.

When Hawaii Bro is in town, one of our pilgrimages is to the Ferry Plaza Market in SF, where Hawaii Bro and I go to Boccalone for the Salumi Cone, and a sandwich, and Hawaii SIL goes to Cowgirl Creamery for cheese.

Oh, and the chocolate place with the fancy varietal chocolates.

451
ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 10:59:59am

re: #412 wrenchwench

Oh, well. It happens.

A lot of musicians do not like some members of the media and purposely screw with them in interviews. And then they laugh about it all later. It’s been a game for some time in the music world.

I think it is one of those “those that can do, and those that can’t write bad reviews” kind of relationships.

452
jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:00:08am
453
jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:00:29am
454
Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:01:30am
455
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:02:50am

re: #451 ObserverArt

A lot of musicians do not like some members of the media and purposely screw with them in interviews. And then they laugh about it all later. It’s been a gam for some time in the music world.

I think it is one of those “those that can do, and those that can’t write bad reviews” kind of relationships.

Even Ted Nugent admitted that he was just fed up with stoned rock and roll reporters showing up and told them whatever came to mind when they asked him questions.

Led Zeppelin gained a notorious reputation for not giving any interviews, thus enhancing their cachet of revered mysteriousness.

The Knack tried to pull off the same trick later in the 70’s and got torn apart by the press instead…

456
wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:03:46am

re: #450 Blind Frog Belly White

When Hawaii Bro is in town, one of our pilgrimages is to the Ferry Plaza Market in SF, where Hawaii Bro and I go to Boccalone for the Salumi Cone, and a sandwich, and Hawaii SIL goes to Cowgirl Creamery for cheese.

Oh, and the chocolate place with the fancy varietal chocolates.

My mom used to love taking the out-of-towners to Grand Central Market in LA to see the pigs’ heads and the beef tongues and all the assorted parts. Also the Bradbury Building, the Watts Towers, and the Brea Tar Pits.

457
makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:04:55am

re: #451 ObserverArt

A lot of musicians do not like some members of the media and purposely screw with them in interviews. And then they laugh about it all later. It’s been a gam for some time in the music world.

I think it is one of those “those that can do, and those that can’t write bad reviews” kind of relationships.

One of David Lee Roth’s most famous quotes:

‘Music critics who like Elvis Costello are mostly people who look like Elvis Costello.’

458
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:05:14am

re: #449 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Republicans are vigorously destroying our government.

I am reminded of this scene from ‘A Man For All Seasons’.

YouTube

The Republican base seem happy to give up all the protections of the checks and balances on governmental power, as if the absence of them could never come back and bite them in the ass.

459
Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:05:36am

re: #454 Stanley Sea

Another mess Dems will have to clean up—and get blamed for when doing so.

460
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:07:35am

re: #457 makeitstop

One of David Lee Roth’s most famous quotes:

‘Music critics who like Elvis Costello are mostly people who look like Elvis Costello.’

37 Record-Store Clerks Feared Dead In Yo La Tengo Concert Disaster

461
Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:08:35am

re: #448 wrenchwench

You misspelled his name. It’s Douche-hat.

That’s the way I read it when I first saw it.

462
Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:09:01am

Mike Pence will be here in Lexington in the next few minutes.

Fuck him…

…that is all.

463
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:09:21am

re: #456 wrenchwench

My mom used to love taking the out-of-towners to Grand Central Market in LA to see the pigs’ heads and the beef tongues and all the assorted parts. Also the Bradbury Building, the Watts Towers, and the Brea Tar Pits.

The first time I ever saw a pig’s head without the pig attached, it was at the old Lexington Market in Baltimore.

464
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:09:46am

re: #461 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

That’s the way I read it when I first saw it.

Well, you weren’t wrong.

465
piratedan  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:09:49am

re: #457 makeitstop

well to be honest, I rather doubt EC gives much of a damn what David Lee Roth thinks… must be time to give This Year’s Model another spin

466
Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:10:21am

re: #441 Joe Bacon 🌹

The sad truth is that there are millions of Kim Davis types who accept that as their lot in life.

It’s easier than being an adult.

467
Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:11:59am

re: #462 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Mike Pence will be here in Lexington in the next few minutes.

Fuck him…

…that is all.

Ruining Henry Clay’s hometown.

468
Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:13:20am

re: #458 Blind Frog Belly White

I am reminded of this scene from ‘A Man For All Seasons’.

[Embedded content]

Video

The Republican base seem happy to give up all the protections of the checks and balances on governmental power, as if the absence of them could never come back and bite them in the ass.

just tweeted this

469
Teukka  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:13:34am

re: #419 Blind Frog Belly White

“How can we get women to stop accusing men of rape?”

Wait! Wait! I know this one! “Don’t rape them.”

Don’t rape them, don’t take advantage of them sexually, don’t make sexually explicit threats against them, don’t call them s*clang*s, t*clang*s or w*clangs*s.

Then again, I was raised in a cave by a single providing female wolf. ///

470
Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:14:51am

re: #457 makeitstop

One of David Lee Roth’s most famous quotes:

‘Music critics who like Elvis Costello are mostly people who look like Elvis Costello.’

Hmmm…..does that mean people who like Bob Mould are slightly portly, glasses-wearing middle-aged dudes?

Oh, damn. I am.

Shit.

Bob Mould - The Descent (Official Music Video)

472
makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:15:28am

re: #465 piratedan

well to be honest, I rather doubt EC gives much of a damn what David Lee Roth thinks… must be time to give This Year’s Model another spin

I love ‘em both. DLR was pretty much a Borscht Belt comedian fronting a rock band.

And I’m deeply into EC and his work with The Imposters.

American Gangster Time

What a great chorus.

473
Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:16:39am

re: #471 thecommodore

Another facepalm from the SMOTI:

Well Lookie Here=> Russian Lawyer Veselnitskaya is Pictured with Obama Ambassador to Russia - 8 Days After Trump Jr. Mtg.

Thanks, SMOTI, and this proves….

474
(Bert the Turtle)  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:16:44am

re: #394 MsJ

I have no idea why I updinged your comment. But, I’d do it again.

475
wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:17:29am

re: #460 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

37 Record-Store Clerks Feared Dead In Yo La Tengo Concert Disaster

From the link:

Also believed to be among the missing are seven freelance rock critics, five vinyl junkies, two ‘zine publishers, an art-school dropout, and a college-radio DJ.

My boyfriend was a college-radio DJ. It got us into the poolside at a motel on the Sunset Strip to interview the Ramones.

Thank god he survived.

/

476
Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:17:41am

This really get’s me.

Wouldn’t Rehab be the way to protect the fetus?

477
(Bert the Turtle)  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:22:23am

re: #470 Dr Lizardo

There’s a Grant Hart video on Amazon Prime that’s kind of cool, and kinda creepy.

amazon.com

Big Huskers fan here. I was about what, 14-6(?) when they broke just up the road. There were a ton of Minneapolis/St. Paul bands that came through town on their way to Madison/Chicago. I was fortunate enough to see them in some small, intimate clubs.

478
wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:26:13am

re: #477 (Bert the Turtle)

There’s a Grant Hart video on Amazon Prime that’s kind of cool, and kinda creepy.

amazon.com

Big Huskers fan here. I was about what, 14-6(?) when they broke just up the road. There were a ton of Minneapolis/St. Paul bands that came through town on their way to Madison/Chicago. I was fortunate enough to see them in some small, intimate clubs.

Stpaulbear should get up earlier. Or quit his job, whatever it takes to be in on this.

Oh, wait. I have work to do. New thread! Time to go (for a couple minutes).

479
Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:28:19am

re: #477 (Bert the Turtle)

There’s a Grant Hart video on Amazon Prime that’s kind of cool, and kinda creepy.

amazon.com

Big Huskers fan here. I was about what, 14-6(?) when they broke just up the road. There were a ton of Minneapolis/St. Paul bands that came through town on their way to Madison/Chicago. I was fortunate enough to see them in some small, intimate clubs.

Saw Hüsker Dü back in 1987 in Portland, OR at the Pine Street Theater. Great show.

480
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:31:01am

This is, of course, the most amazing psychological projection. It wasn’t the Left who elected a strongman-type character as President, nor was it the Left who Oo’ed and Ah’ed over a Russian dictator.

481
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:41:01pm

re: #238 Sir John Barron

Gohmert! and Steve King are so dumb and evil they can be readily exchanged for one another.

and neither Gohmert nor King is the chair of the freedum caucus.
That would be Mark Meadows (R-NC).


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