Breaking: Rep. Brad Sherman Introduces Articles of Impeachment for Trump

Obstruction of justice
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There it is. Today Representative Brad Sherman (D-CA) introduced Articles of Impeachment in the House of Representatives, seeking to remove Donald Trump from office for obstruction of justice in his actions impeding the investigation into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn’s contacts with Russia.

Here’s the document introduced by Sherman, co-sponsored by Texas Rep. Al Green.

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363 comments

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:23:52am

This should keep DJT’s twitterphone busy for a while.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:24:39am

Too soon.

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calochortus  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:26:05am

re: #2 Decatur Deb

Too soon.

Beat me to it. Really no point yet.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:26:56am

Fox will resurrect Hillary’s emails in 5…4…3…2…1…

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:27:30am

Presidential Impeachment: The Legal Standard and Procedure
litigation.findlaw.com

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:27:35am

re: #3 calochortus

Beat me to it. Really no point yet.

Looks like uncoordinated show-boating. I want ironclad charges brought by a Republican.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:28:27am

re: #4 Joe Bacon 🌹

Fox will resurrect Hillary’s emails in 5…4…3…2…1…

Followed by Benghazi, Obama’s terrible response to Katrina, 9/11 was Clinton’s fault, Soros killed Vince Foster, and Obama is still operating FEMA camps.

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Interesting Times  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:29:03am

re: #6 Decatur Deb

Looks like uncoordinated show-boating. I want ironclad charges brought by a Republican.

Then you’ll be waiting like…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:30:05am

re: #8 Interesting Times

Then you’ll be waiting like…

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When they feel the flames, they’ll rediscover their piety.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:31:43am

Comedy break:

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mmmirele  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:32:01am

Sorry to go off topic so soon, but some segments of white Evangelical Christianity are going berserk today: Eugene Peterson, the paraphraser of “The Message” Bible, a retired pastor and theology professor, says he’s changed his mind on gay marriage and would now perform one. Peterson is now 84 and is apparently giving no fucks anymore.

religionnews.com

As you might expect, other Evangelicals are basically writing him off, kicking him out of the club, condemning him to hell and so on and so forth. It will be interesting to see if the big Evangelical publisher NavPress dumps “The Message” Bible, or if any of the big Evangelical chains (like Lifeway, owned by the Southern Baptist Convention) does the same.

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:32:37am

re: #9 Decatur Deb

When they feel the flames, they’ll rediscover their piety.

The Doors - Light My Fire

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(Bert the Turtle)  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:33:05am
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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:33:13am

re: #6 Decatur Deb

Looks like uncoordinated show-boating. I want ironclad charges brought by a Republican.

Unless and until multiple Republicans are willing to sponsor and/or co-sponsor articles of impeachment, this is just grandstanding. As I mentioned the other day, we need at least 24 House Republicans to get behind impeachment for it to pass.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:33:50am

re: #6 Decatur Deb

Looks like uncoordinated show-boating. I want ironclad charges brought by a Republican.

I would have waited until Mueller’s done. Trump and Co are going to keep feeding him stuff.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:36:36am

Sounds about right.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:36:59am

Changed my FB profile pic to this today, and now everyone’s all “Awwww!”

Awwww, Man! You’re killin’ me!
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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:37:28am

re: #15 Belafon

I would have waited until Mueller’s done. Trump and Co are going to keep feeding him stuff.

It doesn’t strike me as a wise move to file a single article of impeachment. That’s the value in waiting until the various investigations are done. It’s highly likely that there will be multiple grounds for impeachment. And any good plaintiff’s lawyer or prosecutor will tell you, the more causes of action you can state, the better your chances of winning.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:38:06am

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

Changed my FB profile pic to this today, and now everyone’s all “Awwww!”

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ooooh, ear scratches from meeeee!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:38:47am

re: #15 Belafon

I would have waited until Mueller’s done. Trump and Co are going to keep feeding him stuff.

This is still the overture to Der Trumpfendämmerung. Wait for the Chorus of Dispossessed Rotarians.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:38:48am

Gentle reminder.
Investigations take time. Investigations into a corrupt regime and multiple criminal acts of a cabal/syndicate such as Trump operates takes time to break down into the component parts and identify the individuals involved at each step.

Every day we learn new acts of criminality - including those that the investigators were unaware of. That opens up still new avenues for investigation.

Mueller wont release any report - identifying people to prosecute - until he’s good and ready, and that’s not likely to be for some time to come.

With the staggering amount of corruption involved here, he doesn’t want to leave any stone unturned, such as perhaps leaving Pence out when he’s up to his eyeballs in wrongdoing as well. Or leaving Ivanka out when she’s also included in the loop on emails and other communications.

There’s no way to short cut the investigation. It will be complete when it’s ready.

Of course, Pence is there waiting in the wings for a moment of comedy:

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:40:06am

I see your Greyhound and raise you one FeralGirl.

Puppy Yoga
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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:40:16am

re: #21 lawhawk

Gentle reminder.
Investigations take time. Investigations into a corrupt regime and multiple criminal acts of a cabal/syndicate such as Trump operates takes time to break down into the component parts and identify the individuals involved at each step.

Every day we learn new acts of criminality - including those that the investigators were unaware of. That opens up still new avenues for investigation.

Mueller wont release any report - identifying people to prosecute - until he’s good and ready, and that’s not likely to be for some time to come.

With the staggering amount of corruption involved here, he doesn’t want to leave any stone unturned, such as perhaps leaving Pence out when he’s up to his eyeballs in wrongdoing as well. Or leaving Ivanka out when she’s also included in the loop on emails and other communications.

There’s no way to short cut the investigation. It will be complete when it’s ready.

Of course, Pence is there waiting in the wings for a moment of comedy:

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Yes humble and self-control, two words I think of when I think of Trump.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:40:30am

Getting the ‘I’ word into the public vocabulary again isn’t necessarily a bad thing, IMO.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:40:51am

Is this a record for impeachment proceedings. Inauguration to Impeachment in 60 seconds flat?

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:40:51am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:41:39am

re: #25 Birth Control Works

Is this a record for impeachment proceedings. Inauguration to Impeachment in 60 seconds flat?

I’m almost certain.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:42:22am

re: #22 Birth Control Works

I see your Greyhound and raise you one FeralGirl.

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And I’ll raise you mah pup being a big goof.

Happy Puppy Day from Scout!
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Bubblehead II  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:43:12am

re: #2 Decatur Deb

Too soon.

Way to soon. Should have waited for Mueller’s investigation and final report.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:43:18am

re: #22 Birth Control Works

I see your Greyhound and raise you one FeralGirl.

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My wife asked how old she is?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:43:20am

re: #27 HappyWarrior

I’m almost certain.

Oh, I’m pretty sure that some Republican or other tried to impeach Obama for putting his filthy Negro hand on the Bible, or some such.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:44:03am

re: #26 Dr. Matt

Serkis should make that a regular practice.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:44:23am

re: #30 makeitstop

My wife asked how old she is?

3? ish

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:45:32am

re: #32 jaunte

Serkis should make that a regular practice.

“What’s ‘covfefe’, Precious?”

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:45:33am

Brat Puppy and Princess Girl

Brat Puppy with Princess Dog (having since gone over the Rainbow Bridge)

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:47:20am

re: #32 jaunte

Serkis should make that a regular practice.

Good idea. Every week he makes a video of DJT’s 5 worst/best tweets.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:47:37am

I really like the band Disturbed.

Disturbed - Open Your Eyes [Official Lyric Video]

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:48:05am

re: #33 Birth Control Works

3? ish

Same age as Scout. She still looks very puppy-ish, that’s why the wife asked.

Scout goes from full-grown dog to puppy facsimile pretty often, too.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:49:18am

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Jay C  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:49:54am

Of course, Rep.Sherman’s impeachment resolution - however well-crafted - is going to go nowhere fast - very fast. But that probably isn’t the point: said point being that being the first Congressman to bring up the I-word in any sort of serious context (and sorry, folks: blogs don’t count) - is something of a no-lose situation: at worst he’s dismissable as a crank (like Rep. Walter Jones of NC - still in the House btw - and his crusade against GWB’s Iraq policy): at best, he’s a Prophet Before His Time. Hopefully, minus the martyrdom…

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calochortus  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:49:56am

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Yes humble and self-control, two words I think of when I think of Trump.

And Pence too!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:50:50am
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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:50:51am
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gocart mozart  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:51:17am

I would do anything for love, but I won’t Douthat.

Meat Loaf I’d Do Anything For Love But I Won’t Do That

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:53:14am

re: #44 gocart mozart

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I would do anything for love, but I won’t Douthat.

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This guy really needs to get out more. Most GOT fans I talk to like it because it’s a fascinating story and a history buff, I can see the parallels between it and the Wars of the Roses but okay Ross you totally got me, I want a King or Queen. // Maybe you should go to a deli with David Brooks and you two can jerk each other off about liberal elites.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:53:24am

re: #25 Birth Control Works

Is this a record for impeachment proceedings. Inauguration to Impeachment in 60 seconds flat?

Pretty much.

While this is still in the grandstanding phase, it’s faster than it took anyone in Congress to consider impeachment of anyone since John Tyler.

In most every other instance, impeachment occurred in a second term, or the latter half of a first time.

So, I guess Trump’s first again…

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Interesting Times  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:53:49am

re: #40 Jay C

Of course, Rep.Sherman’s impeachment resolution - however well-crafted - is going to go nowhere fast - very fast. But that probably isn’t the point: said point being that being the first Congressman to bring up the I-word in any sort of serious context (and sorry, folks: blogs don’t count) - is something of a no-lose situation

That’s pretty much the perspective taken here: Voting Off the Apprentice President

Of course, impeachment efforts face a similar hurdle, and GOP resistance will, if anything, be even more fierce. But if the Democrats take back the House in 2018, it’s a new ball game. And even if they don’t, a drive to impeach Trump could produce significant political benefits for the left. A well-organized impeachment movement would shine a spotlight on Trump’s outrageously corrupt actions and demand that Congress take action. This would weaken not only Trump himself but also the entire GOP: Republican lawmakers would be forced to choose between remaining loyal to a widely despised president or distancing themselves from him and risking the wrath of Trump’s ferociously loyal base. Yes, Trump’s massive unpopularity is already trashing the Republican brand, even absent a credible threat of impeachment. But a strong impeachment movement would turn the political pressure up to eleven.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:55:24am

“…The real nut-cutting is going to occur within the Republican majorities because the inhabitants of the cracker factory already have sawn off the limb on which their more “moderate” colleagues have climbed. In the House, Mark Meadows, the leader of the House Freedom Caucus, the passel of extremists currently in possession of Paul Ryan’s legislative cojones, has announced his willingness to shut the government down if money for the wall isn’t included in the budget.”

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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:56:04am

re: #25 Birth Control Works

Is this a record for impeachment proceedings. Inauguration to Impeachment in 60 seconds flat?

It was about ten and a half months from Clinton’s second inauguration to articles of impeachment being filed against him. And about 4 months after Nixon’s second inauguration that articles of impeachment were drafted against him. Even talk of impeachment of Obama wasn’t until March 2012.

All info per wikipedia.

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:56:16am

Aside from the investigation being far from over and wanting the GOP to be the ones who first filed, the other reason I didn’t want to see impeachment brought up this early is I know that the GOP is going to now make this a campaign issue next year. “Vote for us to keep Trump in office!” will be the rally cry and the base will respond. At the same time a lot of the people who might otherwise have supported the DNC against Trump will not want to vote for what they will be 1-2 years of impeachment proceedings and little getting done.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:56:26am

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

Changed my FB profile pic to this today, and now everyone’s all “Awwww!”

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Including me…

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:57:20am

re: #37 Birth Control Works

I really like the band Disturbed.

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Video

David Draiman is a great singer, full stop.

Fun fact: He once blew up a rabbi’s car after the rabbi punched him in the face! (Disclaimer: I’m not vouching for the veracity of the story)

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:58:15am

re: #38 makeitstop

Same age as Scout. She still looks very puppy-ish, that’s why the wife asked.

Scout goes from full-grown dog to puppy facsimile pretty often, too.

Scout looks as though he is a really good cuddler.:)

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calochortus  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:59:02am

re: #50 Targetpractice

Aside from the investigation being far from over and wanting the GOP to be the ones who first filed, the other reason I didn’t want to see impeachment brought up this early is I know that the GOP is going to now make this a campaign issue next year. “Vote for us to keep Trump in office!” will be the rally cry and the base will respond. At the same time a lot of the people who might otherwise have supported the DNC against Trump will not want to vote for what they will be 1-2 years of impeachment proceedings and little getting done.

I’m not sure “keep Trump in office” will be a winner as a campaign issue. People who voted for Trump because they believed his promises about health care and jobs won’t have either, and will be disillusioned. Sure, the die-hards will still be there, but they would be anyway.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:59:32am

I like the idea of impeachment, but I don’t like the drain on resources it will produce — Congress needs to ignore Trump and make sure the whackos among them don’t pass draconian bills to him.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 12, 2017 • 11:59:55am

re: #46 lawhawk

Pretty much.

While this is still in the grandstanding phase, it’s faster than it took anyone in Congress to consider impeachment of anyone since John Tyler.

In most every other instance, impeachment occurred in a second term, or the latter half of a first time.

So, I guess Trump’s first again…

It might become a routine part of the inauguration day cycle to hand over the new president’s first impeachment paperwork. Not something to hope for.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:00:05pm
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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:01:02pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

This guy really needs to get out more. Most GOT fans I talk to like it because it’s a fascinating story and a history buff, I can see the parallels between it and the Wars of the Roses but okay Ross you totally got me, I want a King or Queen. // Maybe you should go to a deli with David Brooks and you two can jerk each other off about liberal elites.

Having watched the show and read all the books (more than twice), it really has nothing to do with politics for me. It’s just a (mostly) interesting, far flung story. As a writer, I’m captivated by the fact that Martin could create that grand of a universe with so much detail. But I’ve got this weird thing where I don’t view every aspect of life through political lenses.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:01:21pm

While that wall gets built…
Skeleton Crew
Season starts with shrimp boats lacking workers

“…He didn’t mince words when citing the difficulties the fleet faces this year, namely, a dire shortage of workers from Mexico.

The situation is caused by the failure of Congress to renew the H-2B Returning Worker Program, leaving boat owners and shrimp processors in a lurch. Andrea Hance, executive director of the Texas Shrimp Association, said as much as 20 percent of the Brownsville-Port Isabel fleet will stay tied up rather than heading out for the new season, which starts July 15.
Many boats that do go out will do so with skeleton crews, which means they won’t be able to handle as many shrimp. Adding insult to injury is the fact that this season is projected to be the best in years, Hance said.

“All the indicators show, with low fuel prices, there’s an abundance of shrimp out there and the prices have remained fairly stable,” she said. “This was going to be our year.”

A shortage of crew members also means boats won’t be able to head as many of the shrimp they do catch, which decreases the value. Head-on shrimp is worth about $2 less a pound at the dock than headless, Hance said.

The industry is fighting a misperception that it would rather hire Mexican H-2B visa workers than U.S. workers because they’re cheaper, Hance said, though the truth is that finding Americans to crew shrimp boats is practically impossible despite the industry’s best efforts. brownsvilleherald.com

“Pro-business” Republicans at work, destroying business in a Republican state.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:01:43pm
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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:02:04pm

re: #53 Birth Control Works

Scout looks as though he is a really good cuddler.:)

He’s the best. Such a big moosh. But he’s pretty tough-looking so most people give him a pretty wide berth when we take him to the park.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:03:39pm

re: #59 jaunte

While that wall gets built…
Skeleton Crew
Season starts with shrimp boats lacking workers

“Pro-business” Republicans at work, destroying business in a Republican state.

These assholes voted for Trump. They deserve to suffer.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:04:30pm
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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:05:29pm

re: #62 Dr. Matt

The shrimp industry has a substantial impact on the Texas economy, though nothing on the magnitude of the cattle industry, for instance, thus it’s hard to get lawmakers’ attention, she said. An exception is state Rep. Rene Oliveira, D-Brownsville, who was among the speakers at Monday’s blessing ceremony and blamed the visa situation on “failed policies in Washington.” Hamstringing the Texas shrimp industry just further hands the advantage to foreign shrimp producers, he said.

The ones suffering aren’t the Republicans.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:05:55pm

re: #62 Dr. Matt

These assholes voted for Trump. They deserve to suffer.

I haven’t read the article. Do we know they voted for Trump?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:06:33pm

hahaha
haha
ha

Preaching to the rubes

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:07:17pm

This detail about American workers, though.

The few who do respond to want ads rarely come back after the first day. Those who make it through training and head out to the Gulf on a boat more often than not have to be brought back in a matter of days. Crewing a shrimp trawler is hard, dangerous work, Hance said.

“When we put an inexperienced person on this boat, there’s probably about a 95-percent chance that person will quit in the first week, so you’re asking that boat owner to turn the boat around, use the fuel to get back,” she said. “It costs the boat owner and the crew because they’re not able to fish.”

Inexperienced crew members are also a big liability for boat owners, which is another reason many are choosing to leave their vessels in port, to avoid the risk, Hance said. The Mexican H-2B workers, in contrast, usually know their way around a shrimp boat by the time they get here, she said.
brownsvilleherald.com

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:09:14pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:09:27pm

The shitshow that is this WH

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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:09:36pm

re: #46 lawhawk

Pretty much.

While this is still in the grandstanding phase, it’s faster than it took anyone in Congress to consider impeachment of anyone since John Tyler.

In most every other instance, impeachment occurred in a second term, or the latter half of a first time.

So, I guess Trump’s first again…

The historical footnote I find most interesting is that the Tyler impeachment was led by former President John Quincy Adams who was at that point serving in the House. I honestly couldn’t imagine a scenario in modern politics where a retired president ran for office again. Then again, if Jerry Brown would have won in 1992, I could definitely see him deciding to get back into politics like he did.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:09:59pm

I don’t know about all y’all, but Bo is watching you.

Bo Knows
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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:10:23pm

re: #61 makeitstop

He’s the best. Such a big moosh. But he’s pretty tough-looking so most people give him a pretty wide berth when we take him to the park.

I love the way people react to dogs. People back away from Feral Girl too! She’s not a full-bred GSD, and she is only 50lbs. Yet, they take her face seriously.

Ear scratches to Scout from meee!!!

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:10:53pm

re: #71 MsJ

I don’t know about all y’all, but Bo is watching you.

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oooohhhh!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:11:04pm

re: #71 MsJ

I don’t know about all y’all, but Bo is watching you.

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or the ham sammich out of view.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:11:55pm


The Littoral Combat Ship Is A Disaster And This Is The Solution

This week the U.S. Navy published details on what it’s after for its next surface combatant, the FFG(X), or guided missile frigate. This move is designed to shift away from the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) originally envisioned to perform many different tasks and afford the Navy greater flexibility in operations. But the reality that’s emerged is that the LCS really can’t survive most combat scenarios, so here’s what the service needs now.

[…]

Most of the reasons given recently by the Navy and the Trump administration for continuing production of the failed LCS program was to keep the shipyards that build it working, thus keeping the skilled workforce in place so when the new frigate design was ready for production, it would be smooth sailing for the new warship.

As discussed on the previous thread, once again taxpayers are being fleeced to keep the War Machine funded. But, let’s not provide health care for our fellow citizens….

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:13:01pm

re: #71 MsJ

Lucy is not interested in sharing her prey.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:13:47pm

re: #68 FormerDirtDart

Has anyone performed a welfare check for Sean Spicer?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:14:18pm

re: #66 Stanley Sea

hahaha
haha
ha

Preaching to the rubes

Face/desk

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:14:20pm

re: #76 jaunte

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Lucy is not interested in sharing her prey.

ooh! another cuddler!

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:14:47pm

re: #70 KGxvi

I can’t envision seeing a President becoming a Supreme Court justice (Taft). Or running, winning, then losing, and winning again, like Grover Cleveland.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:14:56pm

re: #71 MsJ

I don’t know about all y’all, but Bo is watching you.

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Looks like Bo is listening too. The satellite dishes are up.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:15:38pm

re: #58 KGxvi

Having watched the show and read all the books (more than twice), it really has nothing to do with politics for me. It’s just a (mostly) interesting, far flung story. As a writer, I’m captivated by the fact that Martin could create that grand of a universe with so much detail. But I’ve got this weird thing where I don’t view every aspect of life through political lenses.

I had a student of mine read Dune - her English is advanced enough that she could do it.

She was properly blown away.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:16:48pm

re: #74 Stanley Sea

or the ham sammich out of view.

Well, there’s that!

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Jay C  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:17:26pm

re: #80 lawhawk

I can’t envision seeing a President becoming a Supreme Court justice (Taft). Or running, winning, then losing, and winning again, like Grover Cleveland.

Counterpoint: Barack Hussein Obama.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:17:49pm

re: #22 Birth Control Works

I see your Greyhound and raise you one FeralGirl.

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Might as well show my hand - one Juno, one Chucky aka a pair of princesses:

Nap time!
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:18:02pm

Looks like the dog days of summer are here. Cuteness.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:19:44pm

re: #66 Stanley Sea

hahaha
haha
ha

Preaching to the rubes

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Keep on telling yourself that Donald. He’s thrilled to have his hand underneath your ass.

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Teukka  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:20:10pm

re: #10 Dr. Matt

Comedy break:

That last one is pure #YouHadOneJob material O.O

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:26:57pm

long thread

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:28:27pm

A friend of mine produced this:

Cellomovie

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:29:04pm

re: #75 Dr. Matt


The Littoral Combat Ship Is A Disaster And This Is The Solution

As discussed on the previous thread, once again taxpayers are being fleeced to keep the War Machine funded. But, let’s not provide health care for our fellow citizens….

Part of the problem was that the LCS project was supposed to settle upon a single design and go with that, but the Navy (or, rather their Congressional allies) argued that building both designs would be “good” because it would keep the respective shipyards working. So it doesn’t surprise me in the least that they’re arguing to continue production while the FFG(X) program drags along to designing a replacement.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:29:10pm

re: #85 Jebediah, RBG

Might as well show my hand - one Juno, one Chucky aka a pair of princesses:

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awwwwww! belly rubs from meeee!

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:31:58pm

re: #20 Decatur Deb

This is still the overture to Der Trumpfendämmerung. Wait for the Chorus of Dispossessed Rotarians.

Ohhh! I love that scene. The roller skating giraffe kills me every time.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:39:37pm

Below is my Lusi and her mini-me, Curtis.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:40:17pm

This WH is beyond my comprehension today

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:40:59pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

This WH is beyond my comprehension today

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Deflect and make up shit.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:41:40pm

re: #94 Flying Squirrel Girl

Below is my Lusi and her mini-me, Curtis.

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I love black muzzle pups! Soooo cute.

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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:41:43pm

re: #80 lawhawk

I can’t envision seeing a President becoming a Supreme Court justice (Taft). Or running, winning, then losing, and winning again, like Grover Cleveland.

The Supreme Court justice would be the most impracticable, I think. There’d have to be a long time between presidency and seat at the bar to avoid potential conflicts and recusals. And by that point, the nominee would probably be too old.

Then again, there were rumors Huntsman was considering a run in California for either governor or the Senate. But that’s mostly fizzled out. It’s also been an incredibly long time since someone held office in two different states, I would think.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:41:58pm

bbl

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:42:31pm

re: #98 KGxvi

The Supreme Court justice would be the most impracticable, I think. There’d have to be a long time between presidency and seat at the bar to avoid potential conflicts and recusals. And by that point, the nominee would probably be too old.

Then again, there were rumors Huntsman was considering a run in California for either governor or the Senate. But that’s mostly fizzled out. It’s also been an incredibly long time since someone held office in two different states, I would think.

Can’t see Huntsman getting elected in CA either.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:43:05pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

This WH is beyond my comprehension today

Q: What is 2 * 2?

A: Orange

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:43:50pm

re: #101 Sir John Barron

A: Hillary

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:43:58pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

This WH is beyond my comprehension today

Such a Very Serious White House. /

Not sure why any press would bother to show up at these now.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:44:01pm

re: #97 Birth Control Works

Me too! They’re both half Rhodesian Ridgeback, half something else. Lusi we think may be half Black Mouth Cur, and Curtis’s mom was a little lab mix mutt. I love this pic because they are both smiling!

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:44:57pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

Part of the problem was that the LCS project was supposed to settle upon a single design and go with that, but the Navy (or, rather their Congressional allies) argued that building both designs would be “good” because it would keep the respective shipyards working. So it doesn’t surprise me in the least that they’re arguing to continue production while the FFG(X) program drags along to designing a replacement.

I think the failure to down-select, as planned, to one class of ship originally wasn’t about keeping shipyards working. Decision to build prototypes of both ships to trail against each other (not typically done with big ass warships) was due to seeing the potential of the trimaran Independence- class, but being risk averse.
If someone had had the gnads to choose one design before building, which is normal, the program would be years ahead now.
Also, the programs biggest problems has been developing the “mission modules”.
The typical problem with US arms procurement, striving for the “leap ahead” technology.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:45:05pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

“I’d look no further than the Clintons,” Sanders says when pressed on communications between Trump associates and Russia.

— Matthew Nussbaum

Were the Clintons sent the email chain from Junior?

/

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:46:27pm

re: #29 Bubblehead II

Way to soon. Should have waited for Mueller’s investigation and final report.

And for Trump and company to continue to subvert the country for Russia?

Sign me up as a “nope.” Trump has already admitted to the items in the impeachment filing. Gets every Republican on record where they stand.

Moreover, the GOP has got to be stinging over last night’s Oklahoma special elections, the elections in NH and NY that also flipped seats, and the close races in MT, GA, and KS. They can’t afford to spend money like they did in the national congressional races.

Oklahoma in particular had zero precincts: NONE, that went for Obama in 2008 and 2012. There is the House of Delegates election in Virginia this year, along with VA and NJ governor.

The longer the corruption and suspected espionage continues, the more damage to the Republic. Let the GOP try to defend this.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:46:42pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

This WH is beyond my comprehension today

They need better coordination, i.e., to blame Obama.

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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:47:35pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Can’t see Huntsman getting elected in CA either.

I doubt he would win, but it’d be interesting. He’d be a better candidate than just about anyone else the CAGOP could offer at this point.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:48:03pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

This WH is beyond my comprehension today

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This is a result of the complete alternate world that conservative cult media has created for its followers. They are only barely able to communicate with the rest of the species. They speak only in allegory, using words that have little meaning to the rest of us, but which communicate whole tracts to each other, because they all understand the same common mythology.

‘Clintons’ is a bad word, therefore they use it. Roughly translated, it means ‘an evil conspiracy against the pure of heart’ in this context. It’s difficult to translate into normal human speech.

Conservative cultists have become the Tamarians of Star Trek, communicating only in allegory and metaphor. Their phrases mean nothing to us, but we don’t share a common mythology - we don’t live in the same universe.

“Second Amendment.”
“Roe vs Wade.”
“Reagan, with fist open.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:49:28pm

re: #109 KGxvi

I doubt he would win, but it’d be interesting. He’d be a better candidate than just about anyone else the CAGOP could offer at this point.

True.

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Teukka  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:49:48pm

re: #37 Birth Control Works

I really like the band Disturbed.

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Really got to like them when I noticed their covers of “Sound of Silence” and “Land of Confusion”.

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:50:09pm

re: #105 FormerDirtDart

I think the failure to down-select, as planned, to one class of ship originally wasn’t about keeping shipyards working. Decision to build prototypes of both ships to trail against each other (not typically done with big ass warships) was due to seeing the potential of the trimaran Independence- class, but being risk averse.
If someone had had the gnads to choose one design before building, which is normal, the program would be years ahead now.
Also, the programs biggest problems has been developing the “mission modules”.
The typical problem with US arms procurement, striving for the “leap ahead” technology.

Ayep, pretty much every 80s-era weapon procurement program that planned to “leap ahead” has turned into a bloated, problem-plagued mess. Difference is that the Navy and Air Force have the weight in Congress to get their programs pushed forward, while the Army and Marines have gotten fucked at both ends.

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:51:40pm

re: #110 Renaissance_Man

This is a result of the complete alternate world that conservative cult media has created for its followers. They are only barely able to communicate with the rest of the species. They speak only in allegory, using words that have little meaning to the rest of us, but which communicate whole tracts to each other, because they all understand the same common mythology.

‘Clintons’ is a bad word, therefore they use it. Roughly translated, it means ‘an evil conspiracy against the pure of heart’ in this context. It’s difficult to translate into normal human speech.

Conservative cultists have become the Tamarians of Star Trek, communicating only in allegory and metaphor. Their phrases mean nothing to us, but we don’t share a common mythology - we don’t live in the same universe.

“Second Amendment.”
“Roe vs Wade.”
“Reagan, with fist open.”

“Trump Tower, when the walls fell.”

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:51:58pm
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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:53:22pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

True.

Seriously, they don’t even have anyone credible to run for the Senate yet. And only one member of the Assembly has declared for the governor’s race. They are such a shitshow out here that it is utterly amazing.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:54:29pm

re: #116 KGxvi

Seriously, they don’t even have anyone credible to run for the Senate yet. And only one member of the Assembly has declared for the governor’s race. They are such a shitshow out here that it is utterly amazing.

Didn’t realize it was that bad for them heh.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:56:06pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

“Trump Tower, when the walls fell.”

“Clinton, at Benghazi.”

“Seth Rich, ordering pizza.”

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:56:30pm

re: #102 jaunte

A: Hillary

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:57:03pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart

long thread

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Great thread! Especially this article.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:57:26pm

re: #119 jaunte

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But Glenn Greeny told me Hillary was a war mongrel.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:58:42pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

They’re all good dodges.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 12:59:40pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

But Glenn Greeny told me Hillary was a war mongrel.

That’s what’s great about projections—they can be tweaked to fit any desired reality or delusion.

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Semper Fi  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:00:15pm

re: #119 jaunte

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He just doesn’t stop.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:00:25pm

re: #119 jaunte

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oooh, bad hair day

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:00:32pm

re: #104 Flying Squirrel Girl

Me too! They’re both half Rhodesian Ridgeback, half something else. Lusi we think may be half Black Mouth Cur, and Curtis’s mom was a little lab mix mutt. I love this pic because they are both smiling!

Do they have the backwards strip of fur?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:01:05pm

re: #123 Sir John Barron

That’s what’s great about projections—they can be tweaked to fit any desired reality or delusion.

Need Hillary to be a sociopathic warmongerer? You got it. Need Hillary to be a weak-kneed, blame America-Firster? You can have that, too.

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:01:10pm

re: #119 jaunte

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Funny, that’s not what he was saying 10 months ago. Back then, she was a warmonger who was going to pick a fight with everybody and get us embroiled in all sorts of wars that America didn’t support. Remember, Don, how you lambasted her constantly for her Iraq War vote?

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:01:14pm

re: #118 Renaissance_Man

“Clinton, at Benghazi.”

“Seth Rich, ordering pizza.”

‘But her emails’

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:01:47pm

re: #124 Semper Fi

He just doesn’t stop.

Lie-Of-The-Day

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:02:20pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

‘But her emails’

“Trump, his skin orange, his hair fake.”

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:02:31pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:02:47pm

re: #126 makeitstop

Do they have the backwards strip of fur?

Half RRs; it should stick straight up.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:03:19pm

re: #126 makeitstop

Neither of them has a ridge until they get excited. Curtis has a mohawk ridge that stands up prominently when he’s fired up about something. Luis looks just like a ridgeback in every way except the absence of a ridge.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:03:59pm

Trump on Putin: “He would like Hillary where she wants to have windmills.”

“…Wind generation accounted for nearly 23 percent of power generation for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) in the first quarter of 2017, the Lone Star State grid operator said this week.”
scientificamerican.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:04:20pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

This WH is beyond my comprehension today

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:04:22pm

re: #119 jaunte

Trump tells Pat Robertson that Putin favored Hillary and her passive military stance in election rawstory.com pic.twitter.com

— Raw Story

Are you a Republican politician in trouble for being who you are? Has the press uncovered something truthful about you or your family or acolytes, that now has you in hot water and unable to explain yourself?

Never fear. Pat Robertson and his “Christian” TV network exists just for you. Give us a call, we’ll put you on the fast track to a sympathetic interview before a gullible audience who will believe whatever we tell it.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:04:52pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

But Glenn Greeny told me Hillary was a war mongrel.

HRC is GOPlite!

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:05:18pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:06:08pm

re: #71 MsJ

I don’t know about all y’all, but Bo is watching you.

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“I’m not mad at you , human. Just disappointed.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:06:22pm

re: #139 wrenchwench

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“Quaid, start the reactor.”

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Teukka  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:06:58pm

re: #141 Targetpractice

“Quaid, start the reactor.”

/

“Open your miiiiind”

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Dr. Matt  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:07:21pm

WHAT THE FUCK?!!

Trump: “And from day one I want fracking and everything else to get energy prices low and to create tremendous energy,” he said during the interview. “We’re going to be self-supporting, we just about are now. We’re going to be exporting energy - he doesn’t want that. He would like Hillary where she wants to have windmills. He would much rather have that because energy prices would go up and Russia as you know relies very much on energy.”

more at: rawstory.com

This is some scary rambling word salad. The Orange One is out of his fucking mind.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:08:27pm

He’s disturbed.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:09:39pm

re: #143 Dr. Matt

I guess it’s Energy Week at the WH.

/

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:09:42pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

He’s disturbed.

He’s stupified.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:09:46pm

The water tower alarm system called me at home this morning … the water tower was lonely again.

(Actually, the low water alarm rang - after we overflowed the tower yesterday. With both pumps in manual, it turns out the water tower computer didn’t know which one to turn on first when switched back to automatic, so it turned on both.)

This is starting to look too much like a real job. Too bad it doesn’t pay like a real job… .

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:10:11pm
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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:10:22pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Six months in and he’s still running against Clinton.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:10:55pm

re: #143 Dr. Matt

WHAT THE FUCK?!!

This is some scary rambling word salad. The Orange One is out of his fucking mind.

“Yeah so ignore all the stuff about Junior’s emails with the Russians and colluding. See how tough I am.”

//

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:10:58pm

re: #119 jaunte

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:12:27pm

re: #94 Flying Squirrel Girl

Below is my Lusi and her mini-me, Curtis.

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What a cute and happy pair!

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:13:04pm

re: #149 jaunte

Six months in and he’s still running against Clinton.

He will continue to do so until he is no longer in office. And then will continue to do so still…from the grave. It will be on his freaking headstone.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:13:41pm

re: #149 jaunte

Six months in and he’s still running against Clinton.

It makes the rubes happy.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:14:06pm

re: #18 KGxvi

It doesn’t strike me as a wise move to file a single article of impeachment. That’s the value in waiting until the various investigations are done. It’s highly likely that there will be multiple grounds for impeachment. And any good plaintiff’s lawyer or prosecutor will tell you, the more causes of action you can state, the better your chances of winning.

Its a political statement that obstructing justice is a BFD. If the Democrats gain control of the House in 2018, they can amend it to add all the new charges resulting from Mueller’s investigation.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:16:13pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Didn’t realize it was that bad for them heh.

Well, the added bonus is that for statewide elections, the two top vote getters in the primary are on the final ballot, regardless of party. Both our candidates for Senate during this last election were Democrats.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:16:15pm

Wonkette with another of their headlines designed to get little attention:

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:17:11pm

This thread’s missing lizard:

negativ, alias First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

He comes around once in a while, still my favorite icon.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:17:40pm

Hmmm…the shit appears to be hitting the fan.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:19:07pm
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nines09  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:19:38pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:19:53pm

re: #160 goddamnedfrank

“Holy shite, who made all this water wet?”

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:21:18pm

re: #156 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well, the added bonus is that for statewide elections, the two top vote getters in the primary are on the final ballot, regardless of party. Both our candidates for Senate during this last election were Democrats.

My mom once said I could be proud of coming from two politically advanced states, California and Wisconsin. I don’t know what happened to Wisconsin. I don’t know what happened to my mom, for that matter.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:21:19pm

re: #160 goddamnedfrank

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Gee Chucky, what took you long?

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:22:32pm

re: #133 wrenchwench

Half RRs; it should stick straight up.

Or just go halfway back. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:22:39pm

re: #151 Ace-o-aces

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I don’t want Robertson dead. I just want him in an old folks home when the worst he can do is tell his roommate that Jesus wanted Pat to get the last pudding.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:23:41pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

“Trump Tower, when the walls fell.”

“Saulalinsky!”

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:23:55pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:24:07pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

But Glenn Greeny told me Hillary was a war mongrel.

I know some Berners that say Clinton and Obama are both neocons and the whole North Korea mess is both of their faults.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:24:34pm

re: #134 Flying Squirrel Girl

Neither of them has a ridge until they get excited. Curtis has a mohawk ridge that stands up prominently when he’s fired up about something. Luis looks just like a ridgeback in every way except the absence of a ridge.

A friend of mine in Philly had a pair of them. They’re big-ass dogs!

And when they got gassy, it was monumental. Literally drove us out of his house one day.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:24:34pm

WSJ’s turn

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:25:27pm

If this wasn’t my country, its reputation and all that on the line, I would find this amusing.

But it is…and it’s not amusing in the least.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:25:29pm

re: #169 ObserverArt

I know some Berners that say Clinton and Obama are both neocons and the whole North Korea mess is both of their faults.

Jesus, North Korea was a mess before Obama was even born let alone took the oath of office. I’d love to hear what the great Sanders would do with NK.

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piratedan  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:25:39pm

re: #159 MsJ

next revelation for Chuck..

Why minorities don’t vote for the GOP….

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:26:11pm

re: #172 MsJ

If this wasn’t my country, its reputation and all that on the line, I would find this amusing.

But it is…and it’s not amusing in the least.

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It honestly angers me. It’s one thing to have policy disagreements. It’s another when your country is run by fools who only care about their own self interest.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:26:35pm

re: #171 Stanley Sea

WSJ’s turn

Ah, this one’s easy:

FAke News! Obama’s IC was fake! Bugged me! Should be impeached!

Damn, now the WSJ is cucked? WTF? That’s it, I’ll only read Prison Planet for my news now.

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piratedan  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:27:17pm

re: #175 HappyWarrior

but they hated all of the right people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:27:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:27:25pm

re: #169 ObserverArt

I know some Berners that say Clinton and Obama are both neocons and the whole North Korea mess is both of their faults.

Well, after I ran into the Bernie Bro in the wild who called me an imperialistic warmongering neo-liberal shill… . (I challenged the person if he knew what those words actually meant, and he did not respond).

My wife the former Libertarian was called a neo-conservative neo-liberal communist yesterday. (Those don’t even go together.)

There are a lot of dingbats in the comment section of Alternet.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:27:30pm

re: #160 goddamnedfrank

I suspect that are still some people from the 70s who believe Nixon was framed. Unless Fox turns on Trump, there will be some people we just won’t be able to reach because they only get their news from one source. We’ll just have go around them.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:27:53pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:28:02pm

re: #161 nines09

A photograph in time.

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I don’t know where Uncle Seymour’s place is, but I want to go to all the concerts there!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:28:39pm

re: #172 MsJ

Most obviously, we have Donald Trump Jr., who received an email from an acquaintance asking explicitly whether he’d be interested in the Russian government’s help in the campaign, and instead of responding, “Please don’t contact me again” and informing the FBI, he said, “If it’s what you say I love it” and forwarded the email on to his father’s closest adviser (also his brother-in-law, Jared Kushner) and the campaign’s chairman, who apparently both had the same response.

Nice summary

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:29:31pm

re: #171 Stanley Sea

WSJ’s turn

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Trump’s been praising Putin since at least 2013. Maybe even earlier.

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piratedan  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:29:45pm

re: #181 jaunte

Gallego is a Democrat

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:30:01pm

re: #170 makeitstop

Lusi is about 110# and Curtis is about 60#. Ridgebacks are large dogs, but have the most amazing demeanor — when I was introduced to my first Ridgeback, I knew immediately I wanted one! Despite her size, Lusi manages to sneak into our bed almost every night without waking either of us.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:30:18pm

re: #139 wrenchwench

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Cutest alien ever. Humans do not stand a chance in this invasion.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:30:19pm

re: #185 piratedan

Yes.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:30:56pm

re: #171 Stanley Sea

WSJ’s turn

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Shoes, dropping all over the damn place.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:32:25pm

re: #143 Dr. Matt

Trump: “And from day one I want fracking and everything else to get energy prices low and to create tremendous energy,” he said during the interview. “We’re going to be self-supporting, we just about are now. We’re going to be exporting energy - he doesn’t want that. He would like Hillary where she wants to have windmills. He would much rather have that because energy prices would go up and Russia as you know relies very much on energy.”

Incomprehensible rambling from Trump who sputters and lacks any rational sense.

We’re going to be self-supporting. Okay. Sounds promising. Tell me more.

We are just about are now. So, Obama’s energy policy didn’t screw America, but we’re close to energy independence? Gotcha

We’re going to be exporting energy. We are now dumbass. The EIA has these statistics and stuff that’s widely available. Usage/import/export. All of it. None of your idiotic advisers bothers with these details, because you don’t have any use for them.

He doesn’t want that. I’m assuming that’s a Putin reference, but who the heck knows.

He would like Hillary where she wants to have windmills. Clinton said she wants to make more alt-energy, to lessen reliance on foreign oil (and oil generally). Higher oil prices help nations like KSA and Russia and oligarchs like Putin. Higher oil prices also incentivize countries to develop alt-energy and shift from oil to cheaper/more reliable energy sources like nat gas and even invest in wind, solar, nuclear, etc.

He would much rather have that because energy prices would go up and Russia as you know relies very much on energy. This is the opposite outcome from the preceding sentence. More alt energy investment means less reliance on oil, which means oil price drops due to lower demand. For someone who claimed to go to Wharton, you really don’t get basic supply/demand.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:33:16pm
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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:33:49pm

re: #172 MsJ

If this wasn’t my country, its reputation and all that on the line, I would find this amusing.

But it is…and it’s not amusing in the least.

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From that article:

And at the moment of its greatest peril (so far anyway), Trump’s White House descends into disarray, backstabbing and outright terror as staffers start to lawyer up and wonder how they’re going to escape their current employment without being publicly disgraced (at a minimum). As The Post reports:

The White House has been thrust into chaos after days of ever-worsening revelations about a meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and a lawyer characterized as representing the Russian government, as the president fumes against his enemies and senior aides circle one another with suspicion, according to top White House officials and outside advisers.

At this point, you have got to think there are moles in the WH that are in talks with the FBI. Someone wanting to escape not just current employment but lawyer fees and possible jail. Someone there is going to be talking to the Mueller team. Has to be.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:34:43pm

re: #174 piratedan

next revelation for Chuck..

Why minorities don’t vote for the GOP….

Or St. Bernie.

Then we’d have the complete convergence of folks who think all media is Fake News.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:34:44pm

re: #190 lawhawk

We are just about are now. So, Obama’s energy policy didn’t screw America, but we’re close to energy independence? Gotcha

The millions of coal miners Trump has put back to work are gonna make us totally beautifully energy independent by next week.

//

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:35:22pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:37:19pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Jesus, North Korea was a mess before Obama was even born let alone took the oath of office. I’d love to hear what the great Sanders would do with NK.

He has already stated he would get on China to fix the North Korean problems.

We’ve never heard that before…have we?

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:37:49pm

These two tweets…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:38:13pm

re: #196 ObserverArt

He has already stated he would get on China to fix the North Korean problems.

We’ve never heard that before…have we?

Yeah we have and it’s incredibly naive.

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:38:41pm

re: #195 wrenchwench

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Wyden looks better than he did 40 years ago.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:38:49pm

re: #197 makeitstop

These two tweets…

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Things keep on getting more and more interesting. Maybe I’ll get a nice 30th birthday present yet.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:39:08pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Yeah we have and it’s incredibly naive.

Speaking of Trump promises…I remember something about WERE GONNA REBUILD THE CITIES!!!

Anybody know how that effort’s going?

///

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:40:07pm

re: #201 Sir John Barron

Speaking of Trump promises…I remember something about WERE GONNA REBUILD THE CITIES!!!

Anybody know how that effort’s going?

///

Last I saw, the HUD Secretary was too busy saying poverty was a state of mind.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:40:30pm

re: #201 Sir John Barron

It’s all waiting for Jared to get financing on 666 Fifth Avenue.

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nines09  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:40:47pm

re: #182 wrenchwench

I don’t know where Uncle Seymour’s place is, but I want to go to all the concerts there!

You know it.

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:41:39pm

re: #199 wrenchwench

Wyden looks better than he did 40 years ago.

From Wiki:

While teaching gerontology at several Oregon universities, Wyden founded the Oregon chapter of the Gray Panthers, which he led from 1974 to 1980. Wyden also served as the director of the Oregon Legal Services Center for Elderly, a nonprofit law service.

I guess he knows what he’s doing.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:41:40pm

Oh, for fuck’s sake. This goddamned buffoon.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:42:13pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Jesus, North Korea was a mess before Obama was even born let alone took the oath of office. I’d love to hear what the great Sanders would do with NK.

Speaking of North Korea…

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EPR-radar  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:42:42pm

re: #18 KGxvi

It doesn’t strike me as a wise move to file a single article of impeachment. That’s the value in waiting until the various investigations are done. It’s highly likely that there will be multiple grounds for impeachment. And any good plaintiff’s lawyer or prosecutor will tell you, the more causes of action you can state, the better your chances of winning.

That’s kind of irrelevant here because the charges for an impeachment don’t matter. The only thing that matters are the vote counts in the House and Senate.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:42:44pm

re: #182 wrenchwench

I don’t know where Uncle Seymour’s place is, but I want to go to all the concerts there!

Seymour Washington: the Walking Blacksmith
dogcanyon.org

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:43:09pm

re: #206 Charles Johnson

Oh, for fuck’s sake. This goddamned buffoon.

“I gave a great speech. The best that’s ever been delivered at one of these things. That’s what everyone told me. Everybody loved me. It was fun.”

/

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:43:23pm
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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:43:46pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Didn’t realize it was that bad for them heh.

The two best candidates (in the sense they’d have a decent shot at getting more than 42% of the vote) the CAGOP have, have both declined to run for either office - current San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer and former Fresno Mayor Ashley Swearengin. Even Arnold has declined to run for the Senate.

And I think I mentioned a few days ago, based on registration numbers, they’re almost a third party behind Decline to State (the official name for independents out here, who are about 1.5% behind Republicans in registration).

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:43:51pm

Jason’s first check must not have cleared yet…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:44:47pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

That 700 Club interviewer looks like a week-old corpse propped up in a chair.

Weekend at Bernies III: The WH Interview.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:44:57pm

re: #197 makeitstop

These two tweets…

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Ahhh…so that is how he was paying for his campaign himself.

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:45:28pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

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Good to see the Crypt Keeper can still find work.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:45:48pm

re: #213 FormerDirtDart

Jason’s first check must not have cleared yet…

Why is his handle still Jasoninthehouse? Jason ain’t in the damn House anymore.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:45:54pm

re: #213 FormerDirtDart

Jason’s first check must not have cleared yet…

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Remember when Jason said he couldn’t look his daughter in the eye and support Trump. Wonder how that’s going since she’s going to be seeing more of her fuckwad father.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:46:03pm

re: #187 ObserverArt

Cutest alien ever. Humans do not stand a chance in this invasion.

God help us. God help us all.

Golden Retriever Puppy Attack

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:46:17pm

Jasonoutthehouse

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:46:23pm

re: #170 makeitstop

A friend of mine in Philly had a pair of them. They’re big-ass dogs!

And when they got gassy, it was monumental. Literally drove us out of his house one day.

Let me state for the record and from personal experience, this is an area where ten-pound dogs can really hold their own.
Of course if she held it, there wouldn’t be any problem - or proof of her ability to cause a gas-tastrophe.

ETA: I should add, though, that she can only clear room, not a house.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:46:28pm

re: #217 Sir John Barron

Why is his handle still Jasoninthehouse? Jason ain’t in the damn House anymore.

O’Reilly took Douchebagface?

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:47:14pm

re: #209 jaunte

Seymour Washington: the Walking Blacksmith
dogcanyon.org

Thank you!

A freedman’s colony after the Civil War; a shabby, eclectic middle class neighborhood during the years of my childhood; Clarksville is now gentrified, mostly white, and full of quirky, thriving local businesses.

And written by a Hotshot! They’re among my heroes.

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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:47:25pm

re: #208 EPR-radar

That’s kind of irrelevant here because the charges for an impeachment are irrelevant. The only thing that matters are the vote counts in the House and Senate.

Not really, though. You need 67 votes on at least one charge for impeachment. So if you have 5 articles of impeachment, that gives you five chances to get 67 votes. For example, you might not get there on Obstruction of Justice, but you could get there on Abuse of Power or Dereliction of Duty.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:48:11pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

That 700 Club interviewer looks like a week-old corpse propped up in a chair.

Weekend at Bernie’s Pat’s!

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nines09  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:48:23pm

re: #206 Charles Johnson

Dear Pat Robertson;
My daddy pulled a pistol on my mommy and said he was going to shoot her. This is not the first time daddy did this. He slaps mommy sometimes and I’m afraid. What can I do?
Signed; Scared

Dear Scared;
Did daddy shoot mommy? No? Then understand that life is hard. Daddy sometimes needs to release his frustrations. Pray for daddy. Because daddy only slaps mommy, that proves he loves mommy. If he didn’t he would hit her with a fist. And if you can send Uncle Pat some money, he can pray for all of you. Especially you. Because God loves you. But we need to pay for the phone call.
Uncle Pat

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:49:17pm

I won’t cry when Pat Robertson finally goes. We’re talking about a man who has rationalized 9/11, justified child abuse if your child is gay, and being a complete asshole to your wife if she gets senile.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:50:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:50:28pm

I can’t think of a single positive Robertson has ever done in public life. I mean as much as I do disagree with the RCC clergy on choice, the ordainment of women, LGBT rights, etc, at least they try to help the impoverished, immigrants. Pat? He helped Charles Taylor and could care less about anyone who doesn’t look like him.

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EPR-radar  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:50:42pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Didn’t realize it was that bad for them heh.

I just read a local paper about a 7-2 party line committee vote in the CA state assembly. Just that vote total is enough to make my day.

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lawhawk  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:50:43pm

re: #201 Sir John Barron

Speaking of Trump promises…I remember something about WERE GONNA REBUILD THE CITIES!!!

Anybody know how that effort’s going?

///

Trump’s “budget” didn’t include funding for Gateway tunnel - the most consequential mass transit project contemplated in years - affecting 650,000 commuters daily. That’s more people per day than live in a couple of states.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:51:00pm

re: #226 nines09

And if you can send Uncle Pat some money, he can pray for all of you. Especially you. Because God loves you. But we need to pay for the phone call.
WWJD. Pat.

LOL Pat Robertson stealing Soupy Sales schtick. I love it.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:51:07pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:53:18pm

re: #233 Single-handed sailor

Rossotrudnichestvo (Russian: Россотрудничество), is an autonomous Russian federal government agency under the jurisdiction of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. This is a Russian government agency primarily responsible for administering civilian foreign aid. Rossotrudnichestvo operates in Central Asia, Latin America and Eastern Europe (but mostly in Commonwealth of Independent States).

From Wikipedia.

en.wikipedia.org

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nines09  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:54:22pm

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

He’s a fucking malignancy. Think of something totally reprehensible and use his name to search on Youtube and have a bucket in front of you.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:54:39pm

re: #221 Jebediah, RBG

Let me state for the record and from personal experience, this is an area where ten-pound dogs can really hold their own.
Of course if she held it, there wouldn’t be any problem - or proof of her ability to cause a gas-tastrophe.

We housesat once for a year for low rent with the stipulation that we take care of the dachshund of the manor. We had a child during that time and my wife carried vaseline in the baby bag. One day she left the bag on the floor and that little dog ate the entire jar.

I have never experienced the kind of smells that dog was making for the next 24 hours before or since.

Also, he’d get a nifty little ridge when he’d lose his mind and attack us. He was a charming gent usually.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:55:09pm
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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:56:42pm

“‘Paris?” Jim replied, as relayed by Trump. “‘I don’t go there anymore. It’s too crowded with Jims.’”

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:56:49pm

re: #233 Single-handed sailor

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:56:50pm

re: #233 Single-handed sailor

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Can’t find much. Perhaps a shell for money laundering and organizing espionage?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:57:49pm

re: #207 FormerDirtDart

Speaking of North Korea…

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earthquake.usgs.gov

USGS shows no earthquake, despite the Yonhap report claiming USGS reported an earthquake.

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BeachDem  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:58:22pm

re: #62 Dr. Matt

These assholes voted for Trump. They deserve to suffer.

Well, Cameron County went for Clinton over the yam 64.6% to 32.1%.

Brownsville is one of the saddest places, with the nicest people, I’ve ever been to.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:59:05pm

re: #182 wrenchwench

I don’t know where Uncle Seymour’s place is, but I want to go to all the concerts there!

I recently saw an interview with Marty Robbins where he talked about being in a songwriter’s group that included Townes. He said Townes knew he was better than the rest of them, and wasn’t always super nice about it.
I am trying to imagine the intimidation factor of being in a songwriting group with TVZ. Yowzers.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:59:23pm
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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:59:23pm
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danarchy  Jul 12, 2017 • 1:59:37pm

re: #212 KGxvi

The two best candidates (in the sense they’d have a decent shot at getting more than 42% of the vote) the CAGOP have, have both declined to run for either office - current San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer and former Fresno Mayor Ashley Swearengin. Even Arnold has declined to run for the Senate.

And I think I mentioned a few days ago, based on registration numbers, they’re almost a third party behind Decline to State (the official name for independents out here, who are about 1.5% behind Republicans in registration).

In Massachusetts independents(called Unenrolled here) outnumber registered Democrats and Republicans combined.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:00:41pm

re: #186 Flying Squirrel Girl

Sweet!

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EPR-radar  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:01:43pm

re: #224 KGxvi

Not really, though. You need 67 votes on at least one charge for impeachment. So if you have 5 articles of impeachment, that gives you five chances to get 67 votes. For example, you might not get there on Obstruction of Justice, but you could get there on Abuse of Power or Dereliction of Duty.

But this is treating impeachment as if it were a normal legal proceeding where things like facts matter to the jury or judge. Not so in Congress.

There will be no impeachment without Republican votes, and those votes aren’t going to be swayed by any evidence presented in Congress. How impeachment looks politically in their home state or district will be the only thing that can cause Republicans to break ranks.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:03:40pm

re: #191 goddamnedfrank

I generally trust a dog’s judgement on somebody.
Trying to think of an instance where I would trust Chuck Todd’s judgement…

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:03:42pm

re: #240 Barefoot Grin

Can’t find much. Perhaps a shell for money laundering and organizing espionage?

Considering the WSJ report about Russian money flowing into the Trump campaign in early 2016, I’m guessing they may have been the source.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:05:02pm

re: #43 jaunte

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Can’t wait to see the Feds raiding all of Trump’s properties on the nightly news. Oh, the headlines!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:05:17pm

re: #240 Barefoot Grin

Can’t find much. Perhaps a shell for money laundering and organizing espionage?

Most likely. See my #234.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:06:49pm

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

LOL Pat Robertson stealing Soupy Sales schtick. I love it.

How else would Pat pay for those high class girls giving him daily colonics?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:08:09pm

Post deleted. Case of mistaken identity.

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:08:31pm

re: #245 jaunte

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“So you’ll put in a good word with the horned one for me?”

“Sure Pat, he and I are golfing buddies. You think my handicap is bad, you should see his.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:09:14pm

re: #253 Joe Bacon 🌹

How else would Pat pay for those high class girls giving him daily colonics?

So that’s what he calls it. I just figured he had some sort of dominatrix/enema fetish.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:10:59pm

re: #254 Dr Lizardo

LOL at Trump’s “I don’t know this Veselnitskaya woman” or whatever bullshit.

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Clinton set them up.//

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:11:58pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:12:10pm

re: #253 Joe Bacon 🌹

How else would Pat pay for those high class girls giving him daily colonics?

That’s an image I didn’t need … thanks, Joe.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:14:57pm

Oops. Different woman. Here’s the corrected tags.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:15:49pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:16:08pm

re: #236 Barefoot Grin

Also, he’d get a nifty little ridge when he’d lose his mind and attack us. He was a charming gent usually.

I am really loving these two sentences. They feel like they came from a genteel memoir of an insane life.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:16:39pm

Awww crap. Reading this thread catching up and my damn Super-Max internet lie detector just blew up from all the Trump lies about.

It can only handle so many lies at one time and apparently it reached max tried to count more and just got hot, started to smoke and then it died. I’ve had it around since GW and it got some pretty high counts, but was always able to handle ‘em.

Looks like I need a bigger model. I’m looking at the Max-a-Million model. They claim they have never had one break yet…but I don’t know.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:17:37pm

re: #263 ObserverArt

Awww crap. Reading this thread catching up and my damn Super-Max internet lie detector just blew up from all the Trump lies about.

It can only handle so many lies at one time and apparently it reached max tried to count more and just got hot, started to smoke and then it died. I’ve had it around since GW and it got some pretty high counts, but was always able to handle ‘em.

Looks like I need a bigger model. I’m looking at the Max-a-Million model. They claim they have never had one break yet…but I don’t know.

They’re gonna need to make a major upgrade for Trump and the firehose of bullshit he spews on a minute-to-minute basis.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:18:42pm
House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) is out of the intensive care unit at MedStar Washington Hospital Center but remains in serious condition, according to the Associated Press.

politico.com

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:19:42pm

re: #258 FormerDirtDart

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Interesting. I’ve always wondered about Kaspersky.

They are a sponsor for Ferrari Formula One racing team. Not the main sponsor, but just getting a decal on a Ferrari race car can cost millions.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:19:54pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

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Jesus.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:20:58pm

re: #262 Jebediah, RBG

I am really loving these two sentences. They feel like they came from a genteel memoir of an insane life.

Small dogs often have a sense of self-worth out of proportion with their size (we had a Westie when I was young; that dog would run straight at any other dog and finally caught hell from a German Shepard). The dachshund took any chair or table as his personal burrow and if our feet drifted into his zone he took it as a personal affront. He bit my wife twice but never caught me. Not for lack of trying. When my wife was in her final months of pregnancy, though, he followed her everywhere and stuck near her and the baby. Overall, he was a wonderful character.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:21:11pm

re: #265 Dr Lizardo

politico.com

I’m glad to hear Rep. Scalise is improving. I despise the man’s politics and his unreconstructed views, but he did not deserve what happened to him. I hope he recovers soon.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:21:12pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

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Oh hell no!

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:21:34pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

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I used to laugh when I read future predictions about things like “Senator Rush Limbaugh.”

God, how I miss those days.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:23:16pm

re: #266 ObserverArt

Interesting. I’ve always wondered about Kaspersky.

They are a sponsor for Ferrari Formula One racing team. Not the main sponsor, but just getting a decal on a Ferrari race car can cost millions.

When my wife worked for Microsoft, she was often in contact with people at Kaspersky. I showed he the news story from last week alleging they were tied to KSB, and she said she’d reach out to her primary contact there about it.

She never heard back. The company may have locked down any info getting out

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:23:36pm

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹

I’m glad to hear Rep. Scalise is improving. I despise the man’s politics and his unreconstructed views, but he did not deserve what happened to him. I hope he recovers soon.

Same here. I find the man’s views reprehensible but no one deserves to be gunned down by some psycho nutburger.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:24:32pm

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹

I’m glad to hear Rep. Scalise is improving. I despise the man’s politics and his unreconstructed views, but he did not deserve what happened to him. I hope he recovers soon.

Ditto that.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:24:59pm

So, some cool photos from the upcoming Black Panther film. Looks good.

Imgur

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KGxvi  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:25:15pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

So if you click on the merch link on that “campaign” website, it links to Kid Rock’s merch site on Warner Bros Records website. That seems… strange… for even a potential political campaign set up. So, unless there’s some FEC filings or a PAC registered, I’m going to say this is just a marketing campaign.

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gocart mozart  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:25:39pm
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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:27:04pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:28:09pm

re: #213 FormerDirtDart

Jason’s first check must not have cleared yet…

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More like YOU DIDNT DO NUTTIN TO GET CLINTON.

Fuck that Chaffetz asshole.

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nines09  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:28:15pm

nope…sorry

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:30:57pm

Took me 44 comments to switch out the brakes on my burrito buddy’s bike. Today’s burrito has red chile! I like ‘em both (red and green, but not together, some restaurateur told us you get a tummyache that way) but green chile is what I usually get. This red one is great.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:32:24pm

re: #258 FormerDirtDart

I removed Kaspersky today and went to another vendor.

That said, assuming I don’t get a new hard drive and start from scratch, including scanning everything I put onto a new machine, I assume Kaspersky is still here.

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makeitstop  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:33:26pm

I don’t know what to make of this, but it’s kind of interesting.

From November 2014 through January 2015, five months before he announced his bid for the Presidency, Donald Trump fired off nine weird tweets to two Russian accounts about running for President. And this, as far as I can tell, hasn’t been reported anywhere.

All these tweets are still live. At least for now. You can read them here; just search “Russia” and scroll down. Two of the accounts were @VladimirRussia7 and @russiannavyblog, and they’ve since been deactivated, and I believe @russiannavyblog deleted his account last night, after I first retweeted his Trump tweets. I’m close to certain he’s ex-CIA, but more on that in a little. Anyway, those handles are dead, but the tagged accounts on some of these tweets are still active, including one apparently belonging to a British medical journalist and human rights activist Dr. Rita Pal; someone with the handle @russia890; and, of course, @monkiekaty.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:35:30pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

Is he running for the new Senator At Large position?

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weave  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:35:55pm

Wow…. it’s so over. They’ve figured it all out…. /s

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EPR-radar  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:36:58pm

I saw something on RedState that warmed my frozen heart:

You are right, I have no way of knowing whether any materials changed hands, I am taking the word of Donald Trump Jr.

This is what tr*mp defenders are reduced to — taking the word of notorious liars.

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Jay C  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:37:05pm

re: #277 gocart mozart

Actually, Mr. Bharara does seem to be a bit confused. The iceberg that just broke off from the Larsen C Shelf in Antarctica is about 2200 square miles in area: slightly larger than Delaware (1982 sq mi).

The revelations from Donald Trump Jr., however, are more likely to somewhat larger and more dangerous…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:38:00pm

re: #285 weave

Wow…. it’s so over. They’ve figured it all out…. /s

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Must hurt being that stupid.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:38:10pm

re: #285 weave

Wow…. it’s so over. They’ve figured it all out…. /s

1000x worse than Watergate

Right answer…incorrect logic.

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jaunte  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:38:30pm

re: #287 Jay C

The passengers are still playfully kicking bits of the Trumpberg around the deck.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:38:52pm

re: #284 jaunte

Is he running for the new Senator At Large position?

It’d be in Michigan but hed have to beat Nugent first.//

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:39:31pm

Trumpers will excuse anything their cult does.

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Teukka  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:40:49pm

This evenings excitement in my neck of the woods(ish):

A container tank of acrylic acid is overheating out of control. Mandatory evac radius is ½ mi (800 m) from the industrial estate. Pondering wider evac if they don’t get it under control soon.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:41:59pm

re: #291 HappyWarrior

It’d be in Michigan but hed have to beat Nugent first.//

They would have to pit the two against each other in a jerk off.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:42:18pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:42:28pm

re: #286 EPR-radar

I saw something on RedState that warmed my frozen heart:

This is what tr*mp defenders are reduced to — taking the word of notorious liars.

I gotta say, though - I’m starting to think that any attempt by Russia to blackmail Trump et al. based on violations of law or morals are doomed to failure by the fact that the whole clan is completely lacking in anything like shame.

This makes me think that what Putin has on Trump is not the Pee Tape, but rather his tax returns showing him to be a less-than-billionaire.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:42:36pm

re: #294 ObserverArt

They would have to pit the two against each other in a jerk off.

GAH!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:43:17pm

CNN has video playing right now of the yam with Michael Cohen & PR guy Goldstone (the yam is talking to Goldstone)

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:43:22pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:44:04pm
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Nyet  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:44:17pm

re: #285 weave

I went to that link and saw no Trump-hate.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:44:27pm

re: #297 MsJ

GAH!

Well, you have two jerks…

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:44:29pm

re: #285 weave

Wow…. it’s so over. They’ve figured it all out…. /s

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And they did all this in such a glacial fashion that Trump not only got elected, but can be assured that there will be no federal charges any earlier than next year.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:45:16pm

Arrest Made in Blast at Oklahoma Air Force Recruiting Center
Apparently a disgruntled former Air National Guard member

Benjamin Don Roden
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:45:30pm

re: #301 Nyet

I went to that link and saw no Trump-hate.

You have to look at it through Trump-colored glasses.

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Jay C  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:46:56pm

re: #301 Nyet

I went to that link and saw no Trump-hate.

Maybe the “visa-denied Democrat operative from Russia” phrase in the first sentence may have been a giveaway??

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Nyet  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:47:27pm

re: #305 Blind Frog Belly White

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:48:16pm

Read ‘em all, (despite or because of) his profile:

Undocumented Immigrant. Hawaiian Pizza Advocate. Black Coffee Drinker. Personal account.

(Hawaiian pizza is the one with the pineapples, right?)

Here’s where it starts:

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:48:17pm

SWOOOOOOOOOOOON!!! SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:49:20pm

Just went outside. I ran back in. It is freakin’ hot and humid out there. Ugh. Gotta be 90 with 60% humidity.

Let’s see…checking weather .com.

Yep 89° and 56% humidity…feels like 95°

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:49:26pm

re: #303 Targetpractice

And they did all this in such a glacial fashion that Trump not only got elected, but can be assured that there will be no federal charges any earlier than next year.

My favorite tweet from the last couple days, talking about how HRC had gotten this Russian woman to talk to Don Jr, Manafort, and Kushner, just so that she could lose to Trump and get him convicted of treason a year later.

That one was sarcastic, but it made more sense than this bullshit.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:49:58pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:51:43pm

re: #311 Blind Frog Belly White

My favorite tweet from the last couple days, talking about how HRC had gotten this Russian woman to talk to Don Jr, Manafort, and Kushner, just so that she could lose to Trump and get him convicted of treason a year later.

That one was sarcastic, but it made more sense than this bullshit.

I’m sure if I query the dumbass, he’ll pull the “Obama expected Hillary to win” card. You know, from the same crowd of people who 2 years ago were certain that Obama absolutely hated the Clintons and had leaked about Hillary’s emails to the press to sink her candidacy.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:53:12pm

re: #309 MsJ

SWOOOOOOOOOOOON!!! SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!

[Embedded content]

Oh, I love little otters and their cute little head shape. What a little heart stealer.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:53:59pm

re: #313 Targetpractice

I’m sure if I query the dumbass, he’ll pull the “Obama expected Hillary to win” card. You know, from the same crowd of people who 2 years ago were certain that Obama absolutely hated the Clintons and had leaked about Hillary’s emails to the press to sink her candidacy.

“People of the land…The common clay of the New West…You know - morons.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:55:05pm

Well, I’m calling it a day. Good night, Lizards.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:55:28pm

You know, the uplighting here is not helping Trump avoid that Mussolini look.

On top of which, this is just a profoundly weird picture.

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Targetpractice  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:55:52pm

I just realized that the wingnuts are probably harboring a hope that the offer by the Russians to give Hillary’s emails to the Trumps was real, if only because it will then vindicate their beliefs that she broke the law because a foreign government hacked the server.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:56:14pm

re: #316 Dr Lizardo

Well, I’m calling it a day. Good night, Lizards.

If you’re calling it a day, shouldn’t you say, “Good day, Lizards”?
//

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:56:30pm

re: #317 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t think it is a look he wants to avoid.

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TedStriker  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:56:56pm

re: #141 Targetpractice

“Quaid, start the reactor.”

/

re: #142 Teukka

“Open your miiiiind”

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:56:56pm

re: #312 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Damn, sure is busy this week. Looks like the rest of this summer is going to be all Trump all the time. It’s no wonder Mitch is so busy…time is shortening.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 12, 2017 • 2:58:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:00:31pm

That’s weird … trying to pull up my router’s internal home page (10.0.0.1) and it kicks back an error saying it can’t establish a connexion.

I’m almost afraid to turn it off and reset it … would it come back to life if I did?

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fern01  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:00:39pm

re: #206 Charles Johnson

Most other countries thought only 19 participated. trump got the attendance (sometimes) award.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:03:22pm

Well, here goes a reset. Either I come back or I’m out until I can figure this out. It’s been nice knowing y’all… .

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whitebeach  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:03:53pm

re: #310 ObserverArt

Just went outside. I ran back in. It is freakin’ hot and humid out there. Ugh. Gotta be 90 with 60% humidity.

Let’s see…checking weather .com.

Yep 89° and 56% humidity…feels like 95°

Nice brisk weather. You might need a light windbreaker or something.

Signed,

Louisiana

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garzooma  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:05:53pm

re: #155 Big Beautiful Door

Its a political statement that obstructing justice is a BFD.

I agree with the need to make the statement and I’m glad someone finally took this step. If anything, it isn’t soon enough — it should have happened right after Trump fired Comey and said he was doing it to obstruct the Russia investigation.

My only complaint about it is that, given that it was a political statement, the text itself is almost entirely legalistic. In particular, it only uses terms like “obstructed .. a federal investigation” into “Russian state interference” and “possible collusion”. I would have liked to have seen a more political argument: that this was aiding and abetting Watergate-like crimes (stealing private information) by a foreign government. And that allowing this would lead to the end of American democracy, replacing it with an authoritarian state that calls on foreign allies to quash opponents with further criminal actions.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:06:02pm

re: #119 jaunte

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He got that from Limbaugh. Yesterday, the pill popper called Hillary “a dunce” and said that’s why Putin wanted Hillary over Trump.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:06:21pm

It’s been a long freaking day. This is about the only good news. There’s obviously been a lot of discussion on this, so I’ll cut to the chase: Any chance that this will have any traction, or will it just get obstructed like all the other justice in this case?

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gocart mozart  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:07:07pm

Andy Pandy Theme

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:07:19pm

re: #329 Ace Rothstein

He got that from Limbaugh. Yesterday, the pill popper called Hillary “a dunce” and said that’s why Putin wanted Hillary over Trump.

Pill Popper is one to talk. He’s a professional shit spreader.

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TedStriker  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:07:50pm

re: #206 Charles Johnson

Oh, for fuck’s sake. This goddamned buffoon.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:10:35pm

The whole “I asked him again in a totally different way” reminds me of a bit from “I’m Sorry I’ll Read That Again”, a British radio show from the late 1960s/early 1970s, which featured some folks who were later in Monty Python. The sketch involved interviewing an actress named Raquel Scotch….

Q: “Do you enjoy working in the tragical medium?”

A: “No, we’re just good friends.”

Q: “Let me rephrase that - Tragical you enjoy in do the medium working?”

335
wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:10:38pm

re: #330 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s been a long freaking day. This is about the only good news. There’s obviously been a lot of discussion on this, so I’ll cut to the chase: Any chance that this will have any traction, or will it just get obstructed like all the other justice in this case?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:10:42pm

re: #327 whitebeach

Nice brisk weather. You might need a light windbreaker or something.

Signed,

Louisiana

I’m back. That was weird. Turned on the router and I couldn’t get an Internet connexion. I was able to get to its home page. Renewed/released the IP address and everything came back to life. Strange.

337
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:11:23pm

Left out the rest: 80F here with 75% humidity.

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Belafon  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:12:18pm

re: #308 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

This is the entirety of how the fight with the GOP is going to play out:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:12:35pm

Humid here too. I’m writing this from my walk before dinner.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:13:21pm

Pretty sure this is related to tweet I posted earlier this morning downstairs

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:13:53pm

re: #336 Anymouse 🌹

I’m back. That was weird. Turned on the router and I couldn’t get an Internet connexion. I was able to get to its home page. Renewed/released the IP address and everything came back to life. Strange.

I have to do that ‘release/renew’ thing at least once a day. Apparently my laptop lost its ability to ‘release’.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:14:51pm

re: #341 wrenchwench

I have to do that ‘release/renew’ thing at least once a day. Apparenly my laptop lost its ability to ‘release’.

Yeah, usually it’s supposed to automatically do it when the lease expires on the IP address. If the service that scans the lease expiration is shut off (or if the system clock is acting wonky), the lease may fail to expire on the client computer, but the server still tries to talk to a new IP address.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:15:31pm

re: #334 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh my fucking garsh. “Then I asked him in a totally different way” - like that fucking lackwit was going to trip up Putin with his cleverness. Putin may be an evil bag of badness, but stupid as Trump he definitely is not.

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MsJ  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:16:37pm

re: #312 FormerDirtDart

DNC donors/staffer file invasion-of-privacy lawsuit v. Trump Campaign alleging conspiracy in release of hacked info nytimes.com

I love the smell of discovery in the morning!

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:17:19pm

re: #342 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, usually it’s supposed to automatically do it when the lease expires on the IP address. If the service that scans the lease expiration is shut off (or if the system clock is acting wonky), the lease may fail to expire on the client computer, but the server still tries to talk to a new IP address.

Should I hit it with a hammer? Or I have a 15” adjustable wrench. And bolt cutters…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:17:38pm

re: #343 Jebediah, RBG

Oh my fucking garsh. “Then I asked him in a totally different way” - like that fucking lackwit was going to trip up Putin with his cleverness. Putin may be an evil bag of badness, but stupid as Trump he definitely is not.

Yeah, but ‘low bar’ and all that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:17:55pm

re: #342 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, usually it’s supposed to automatically do it when the lease expires on the IP address. If the service that scans the lease expiration is shut off (or if the system clock is acting wonky), the lease may fail to expire on the client computer, but the server still tries to talk to a new IP address.

I had a bunch of E-mail bounce about the same time saying the IP was blocked. Strangely, I could still update comments here at LGF. I didn’t know there was something wrong until I tried to go to the router home page and my browser wouldn’t access it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:18:26pm

re: #345 wrenchwench

Should I hit it with a hammer? Or I have a 15” adjustable wrench. And bolt cutters…

What kind of hammer? Weight? Head shape? Handle length?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:19:35pm

re: #348 Blind Frog Belly White

What kind of hammer? Weight? Head shape? Handle length?

Mjolnir just to be sure.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:20:24pm

re: #349 Anymouse 🌹

Mjolnir just to be sure.

But first you have to be worthy.

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TedStriker  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:20:33pm

re: #219 Dr Lizardo

God help us. God help us all.

[Embedded content]

Video

Oh, the humanity!

///

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:21:05pm

re: #348 Blind Frog Belly White

What kind of hammer? Weight? Head shape? Handle length?

I have 3 downstairs and a claw hammer upstairs. Willing to get more. But not willing to measure anything (one is a 10 lb.)

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:24:24pm

re: #345 wrenchwench

Should I hit it with a hammer? Or I have a 15” adjustable wrench. And bolt cutters…

I’d suggest a soft-blow mallet so it doesn’t leave any marks.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:26:19pm

re: #353 ObserverArt

I’d suggest a soft-blow mallet so it doesn’t leave any marks.

I see someone’s read up on his Bastard Operator from Hell.

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:26:44pm

re: #353 ObserverArt

I’d suggest a soft-blow mallet so it doesn’t leave any marks.

One is plastic, with stuff inside that makes noise like a rhythm instrument.

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ObserverArt  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:29:08pm

re: #355 wrenchwench

One is plastic, with stuff inside that makes noise like a rhythm instrument.

Yep. Snap-On makes a nice set.

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wrenchwench  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:31:39pm

re: #356 ObserverArt

Yep. Snap-On makes a nice set.

Mine: StrikePro Nupla, fiberglass handle.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:33:33pm

re: #353 ObserverArt

I’d suggest a soft-blow mallet so it doesn’t leave any marks.

I lost my lead mallet when I sold my MGB.

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harlequinade  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:40:11pm

re: #331 gocart mozart

I think he means YouTube

This is the Andy Pandy I grew up with. Well…reruns, of course.

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darthstar  Jul 12, 2017 • 3:58:46pm

re: #2 Decatur Deb

Too soon.

It’s the first of several articles of impeachment to be voted down by the GOP

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Bubblehead II  Jul 12, 2017 • 4:29:35pm

Night Lizards. Going back to the lurk mode. Surprise!

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petesh  Jul 12, 2017 • 5:44:45pm

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹

Wonkette with another of their headlines designed to get little attention:

[Embedded content]

I enjoyed that.

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retired cynic  Jul 12, 2017 • 6:08:00pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

Like a malevolent “old Bilbo.”


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