Unlike Watergate, it didn’t require the services of a secret informant to uncover wrongdoing in Trump’s administration. Just a son.
EXCLUSIVE: In @Reuters interview, Trump says he was unaware of son’s meeting with Russian lawyer. https://t.co/00lHmEyC0e via @steveholland1 pic.twitter.com/0hcVL2HX9J
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) July 12, 2017
Whew, good thing Trump is famous for his scrupulous honesty in all things. https://t.co/bnrbUednKJ
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 12, 2017
re: #1 Charles Johnson
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For 8 years, anytime that someone brought up the question about an ongoing “scandal” to Obama and he said he hadn’t hear some latest “bombshell” until it was on the news, the response was either “He’s a liar!” or “He’s an absentee president, doesn’t know what’s going on around him!”
But Trump says this shit and the response is “Well, how can he be expected to know everything?”
Some mornings it’s just not worth chewing through the restraints.
supposedly from a Frum tweet:
h/t to Yarrow @ Balloon Juice:
Trump tells Reuters he says no wrong in working w Putin to tip an American election - that’s a warning to supporters of where this is headed— David Frum (@davidfrum) July 12, 2017
I don’t do twitter, but can anyone confirm this?
re: #3 piratedan
supposedly from a Frum tweet:
h/t to Yarrow @ Balloon Juice:
Trump tells Reuters he says no wrong in working w Putin to tip an American election - that’s a warning to supporters of where this is headed— David Frum (@davidfrum) July 12, 2017
I don’t do twitter, but can anyone confirm this?
Here ya go:
Trump tells Reuters he says no wrong in working w Putin to tip an American election - that’s a warning to supporters of where this is headed
— David Frum (@davidfrum) July 12, 2017
re: #3 piratedan
Trump tells Reuters he says no wrong in working w Putin to tip an American election - that’s a warning to supporters of where this is headed
— David Frum (@davidfrum) July 12, 2017
Hey Dennis, this is the closest I can find @reuters Trump saying it was no big deal Hope it helps https://t.co/fidQ5V5sIb
— Jamie Lindsay (@JamieLindsay) July 12, 2017
re: #7 MsJ
I guess he is referring to this maybe?
In the interview, Trump said he did not fault his son for holding the meeting. “I think many people would have held that meeting,” the president said.
re: #3 piratedan
supposedly from a Frum tweet:
h/t to Yarrow @ Balloon Juice:
Trump tells Reuters he says no wrong in working w Putin to tip an American election - that’s a warning to supporters of where this is headed— David Frum (@davidfrum) July 12, 2017
I don’t do twitter, but can anyone confirm this?
It was a follow-on to this:
EXCLUSIVE: Trump tells @Reuters he was unaware of Donald Jr.’s meeting with Russian lawyer, only found out a couple of days ago pic.twitter.com/I2quRcDj9v
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) July 12, 2017
MORE: Trump tells @Reuters he does not fault Donald Jr., says ‘I think many people would have held that meeting’ https://t.co/Eux3yjhkio
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) July 12, 2017
And this rips the heart out of his already implausible denial of knowledge, doesn’t it? https://t.co/9opBcojrWc
— David Frum (@davidfrum) July 12, 2017
Frum is paraphrasing, of course, but if Trump sees nothing wrong with his son meeting with a citizen of an adversarial foreign power who is offering her government’s help to win our election, I don’t see how Frum’s take is anything but accurate.
re: #9 MsJ
so essentially, Trump is saying that his election warranted treason…
re: #11 piratedan
so essentially, Trump is saying that his election warranted treason…
I’m leery of the ‘T’ word, but already his followers say shit like that. And remember - for Trump, anything he can get away with is perfectly fine. No such thing as ‘ethics’.
re: #11 piratedan
so essentially, Trump is saying that his election warranted treason…
He is the emperor god or whatever they call him.
I have had a ton of emails and texts asking me if this website is real… https://t.co/RRVgISDFeq The answer is an absolute YES. pic.twitter.com/uYCUg6mjW1
— Kid Rock (@KidRock) July 12, 2017
— Gordon Friedman (@gordonrfriedman) July 12, 2017
re: #12 Blind Frog Belly White
understand… but my understanding of the word is working with outside entities to influence the USA, as far as I’m aware, Russia is just such an entity. Same would be true if it was GB or even another ally, much less someone who has been at best, a rival on the world stage
re: #15 piratedan
understand… but my understanding of the word is working with outside entities to influence the USA, as far as I’m aware, Russia is just such an entity. Same would be true if it was GB or even another ally, much less someone who has been at best, a rival on the world stage
As long as you accept that your understanding of the word, and the Constitution’s understanding (and therefore the legally applicable understanding) are quite different.
Even then, I’d prefer people restrict themselves to the Constitutional definition, because when everyone tosses the word around so freely, it looses its weight.
re: #15 piratedan
understand… but my understanding of the word is working with outside entities to influence the USA, as far as I’m aware, Russia is just such an entity. Same would be true if it was GB or even another ally, much less someone who has been at best, a rival on the world stage
It’s more like encouraging an outside entity to commit crimes (stealing private information) against Americans.
re: #13 MsJ
He is the emperor god or whatever they call him.
God-emperor, is the term they use. Which always amuses me because for the evangelicals, there’s only supposed to be one God, and Donald J. Trump is about the opposite.
So yeah, we’re rapidly reaching that point where wingnuts just stop arguing over whether collusion occurred and start arguing over whether it’s a crime or not.
Please tell me that Kid Rock is kidding.
re: #11 piratedan
so essentially, Trump is saying that his election warranted treason…
Treason is a tough case to prove. You could have endless arguments over the constitutional definition of treason.
On the other hand, espionage is pretty straightforward. And accepting information stolen by a foreign power qualifies in colluding with spies.
re: #20 I Would Prefer Not To
Please tell me that Kid Rock is kidding.
Take one look at the orange jackass in the Oval Office. Now take another look at Kid Rock. I rest my case.
re: #19 Targetpractice
So yeah, we’re rapidly reaching that point where wingnuts just stop arguing over whether collusion occurred and start arguing over whether it’s a crime or not.
Yep that’s where we are. We’re at the point where they can’t deny collusion happened so they’re denying that it’s a bad thing. Man I weep for our country.
re: #20 I Would Prefer Not To
Please tell me that Kid Rock is kidding.
I wish. The only thing I can say is at least he’s not Ted Nugent but that’s not saying much.
re: #21 Anymouse 🌹
Treason is a tough case to prove. You could have endless arguments over the constitutional definition of treason.
On the other hand, espionage is pretty straightforward. And accepting information stolen by a foreign power qualifies in colluding with spies.
Yep treason is tough to prove but espionage absolutely.
I am tired of people who know nothing about politics getting involved in politics at a high level.
re: #23 HappyWarrior
Yep that’s where we are. We’re at the point where they can’t deny collusion happened so they’re denying that it’s a bad thing. Man I weep for our country.
“Trump colluded with Russia.”
NO HE DIDN’T!!!!
“Trump Jr. colluded with Russia, he said so himself.”
TRUMP DIDN’T KNOW!!!!!
“Trump knew and is an accessory.”
THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH COLLUSION!!!!
“Here’s the legal case proving that this kind of collusion is espionage, and his coverups constitute obstruction of justice.”
… Umm, umm… BUT HILLARY’S EMAILS!!!!
I’m not a fan of the death penalty, but the 1917 Espionage Act lists that as one of the penalties that can be handed down.
Don Jr. could be in real trouble.
re: #27 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
“Trump colluded with Russia.”
NO HE DIDN’T!!!!
“Trump Jr. colluded with Russia, he said so himself.
TRUMP DIDN’T KNOW!!!!!
“Trump knew and is an accessory.
THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH COLLUSION!!!!
“Here’s the legal case proving that this kind of collusion is espionage, and his coverups constitute obstruction of justice.”
… Umm, umm… BUT HILLARY’S EMAILS!!!!
Yep it’s the circle of derp.
re: #26 HappyWarrior
I am tired of people who know nothing about politics getting involved in politics at a high level.
Yeah. California’s experience with novices in high office, as well as term limits and the wonders of ‘citizen legislators’ have soured me on the whole idea of outsiders.
re: #26 HappyWarrior
I am tired of people who know nothing about politics getting involved in politics at a high level.
Well, Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook is testing the waters to see if he can buy the Presidency as well …
re: #12 Blind Frog Belly White
I’m leery of the ‘T’ word, but already his followers say shit like that. And remember - for Trump, anything he can get away with is perfectly fine. No such thing as ‘ethics’.
Treason: Specific crime identified in the US constitution. Specific elements of the crime of treason must be met.
Sedition: Specific crime under 10 U.S. Code § 894. Sedition is intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or other disturbance against that authority.
Contributions by a foreign national: 52 U.S. Code § 30121. It’s unlawful for—
(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States - 18 U.S. Code § 371.
re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White
Yeah. California’s experience with novices in high office, as well as term limits and the wonders of ‘citizen legislators’ have soured me on the whole idea of outsiders.
I honestly prefer so called career politicians over the noobs who go into politics who don’t know shit what they’re talking about. But then again, I want a skilled cardiologist to work on my heart too so no wonder why I want someone who can actually understand policy to make my laws for me.
re: #31 Anymouse 🌹
Well, Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook is testing the waters to see if he can buy the Presidency as well …
Yeah I saw that and Dwayne Johnson. Not a fan of either as an idea.
re: #34 HappyWarrior
Yeah I saw that and Dwayne Johnson. Not a fan of either as an idea.
I’m hoping that there is a backlash against idiots running for office.
re: #14 FormerDirtDart
But what about all his homies in cell block d?
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 12, 2017
re: #20 I Would Prefer Not To
Well, after Trump we are further into the Idiocracy. Trump ushered in the kakistocracy (look it up).
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 12, 2017
re: #21 Anymouse 🌹
Treason is a tough case to prove. You could have endless arguments over the constitutional definition of treason.
On the other hand, espionage is pretty straightforward. And accepting information stolen by a foreign power qualifies in colluding with spies.
Sounds like “adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort” to me.
And what’s so bad about arguing over this? Let Trump supporters explain which crimes committed by foreign powers they’re ok with.
re: #35 I Would Prefer Not To
I’m hoping that there is a backlash against idiots running for office.
I would hope so too. I don’t dislike Zuckerberg and Johnson but can they just stay in what they’re doign already?
re: #14 FormerDirtDart
— efuseakay (@efuseakay) July 12, 2017
re: #33 HappyWarrior
I honestly prefer so called career politicians over the noobs who go into politics who don’t know shit what they’re talking about. But then again, I want a skilled cardiologist to work on my heart too so no wonder why I want someone who can actually understand policy to make my laws for me.
People get frustrated with Government not doing what they want when they want it to. I get that. But a lot of that is 1) Government in a democracy is answerable to ALL the people, not just you. 2) Not everyone agrees with you. 3) in the US particularly, a lot of impediments were enacted to prevent the Government acting too quickly, or too extremely without accountability.
I think this is where the Right and Left differ. I don’t ever see people on the Left suggesting that any individual in a rural area, or in one of the Big Empty States should have less of a voice in government than they do, nor do I see the Left wanting to make it harder for white folks to vote.
re: #36 lawhawk
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I’m more of a Joe C kind of guy. // But seriously, I’m more qualified to be a Senator than Kid Rock. I’ve taken poli sci classes. I’ve written political papers. Kid Rock? He’s been a surrogate for Trump and Romney. If he wants to seek lower office and work his way up, that’s fine but immediately going for hte Senate is tacky.
re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White
People get frustrated with Government not doing what they want when they want it to. I get that. But a lot of that is 1) Government in a democracy is answerable to ALL the people, not just you. 2) Not everyone agrees with you. 3) in the US particularly, a lot of impediments were enacted to prevent the Government acting too quickly, or too extremely without accountability.
I think this is where the Right and Left differ. I don’t ever see people on the Left suggesting that any individual in a rural area, or in one of the Big Empty States should have less of a voice in government than they do, nor do I see the Left wanting to make it harder for white folks to vote.
You nailed it.
re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White
People get frustrated with Government not doing what they want when they want it to. I get that. But a lot of that is 1) Government in a democracy is answerable to ALL the people, not just you. 2) Not everyone agrees with you. 3) in the US particularly, a lot of impediments were enacted to prevent the Government acting too quickly, or too extremely without accountability.
I think this is where the Right and Left differ. I don’t ever see people on the Left suggesting that any individual in a rural area, or in one of the Big Empty States should have less of a voice in government than they do, nor do I see the Left wanting to make it harder for white folks to vote.
And the problem is, because the government has to balance everybody’s needs, everybody eventually finds some reason to complain about their elected representation. And this leads to Donald J. Trump, when everybody feels like revolting against The Establishment, and nobody really thinks about being willing to accept most of what they want in exchange for making sure the guy who will do NONE of what they want doesn’t get voted in instead.
Trump followers are a dangerous cult just like Jonestown or the Branch Davidians.
Prayers for President Trump. pic.twitter.com/IaZM7fbiPC
— Danny Covfefe🍦🍦🐸 (@Daniel_Ohana) July 12, 2017
So McConnell was really good with this info. Pathetic.
On CNN, @SenatorLankford says the Senate Intelligence Committee found out about the Don Jr/Russian lawyer meeting in April.
— Yashar Ali (@yashar) July 12, 2017
re: #45 DodgerFan1988
Trump followers are a dangerous cult unlike Jonestown or the Branch Davidians.
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Unlike the Branch Davidians or the People’s Temple, this cult can kill us all.
Given Trump’s own WWE tenure…all I’m saying is that The Rock and folding chair would actually be a viable solution for our presidential crisis.
re: #42 HappyWarrior
Trump proved that anyone can be president, no matter how unqualified. More than that, Trump proved that anyone can be elected, despite clear evidence of being a bigot, sociopath, misogynist, and consorting with foreign govts to ensure political win.
re: #46 JordanRules
So McConnell was really good with this info. Pathetic.
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The IC has known about it since April, but I imagine the emails were news to them.
re: #46 JordanRules
Another way to frame that - McConnell is complict and he still doesn’t care what Trump does so long as the tax cuts roll in and Medicaid/Obamacare/Medicare get gutted for millions of people who rely on those programs.
re: #46 JordanRules
So McConnell was really good with this info. Pathetic.
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Well, to be fair, saying they met with a Russian lawyer to discuss adoption sounds pretty benign. It’s the ‘She’s got dirt on HRC that she wants to share as part of the Russian Government’s effort to help your campaign’ part that’s the problem.
I bet they didn’t know THAT!
re: #52 lawhawk
Exactly!!!!
It makes me so damned angry!
re: #48 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus
Given Trump’s own WWE tenure…all I’m saying is that The Rock and folding chair would actually be a viable solution for our presidential crisis.
Trump…versus The Rock…in a real cage match.
That’s what I’m talkin’ about.
re: #49 lawhawk
Trump proved that anyone can be president, no matter how unqualified. More than that, Trump proved that anyone can be elected, despite clear evidence of being a bigot, sociopath, misogynist, and consorting with foreign govts to ensure political win.
IMO, it’s worse. Trump was elected because he was willing to be OPENLY “a bigot, sociopath, misogynist, and consorting with foreign govts to ensure political win.” It shows he’s ‘honest’.
re: #53 Blind Frog Belly White
I bet they did. They’ve always known more than us. I remember DiFis face after one meeting. I remember Maxine’s face after another meeting.
Obama told McConnell shit was real. They don’t care.
re: #42 HappyWarrior
I’m more of a Joe C kind of guy. // But seriously, I’m more qualified to be a Senator than Kid Rock. I’ve taken poli sci classes. I’ve written political papers. Kid Rock? He’s been a surrogate for Trump and Romney. If he wants to seek lower office and work his way up, that’s fine but immediately going for hte Senate is tacky.
I’m more qualified than Kid Rock. I haven’t had any college, though I have written political articles. I’ve also been in the military so I understand how bureaucracy works, and on my village board so I understand (local) politics.
I still wouldn’t try to make a jump straight to the Senate. There are a few steps between “village board” and “Senate.”
re: #53 Blind Frog Belly White
Well, to be fair, saying they met with a Russian lawyer to discuss adoption sounds pretty benign. It’s the ‘She’s got dirt on HRC that she wants to share as part of the Russian Government’s effort to help your campaign’ part that’s the problem.
I bet they didn’t know THAT!
The reporting on this is further evidence of how miserable the news media really is. There is no possible common sense reason why a Russian lawyer would meet with the son of an underdog political candidate to discuss ‘adoption’. That people swallow this uncritically is further demonstration of how controlled the American populace is by their media. It makes no sense unless you also then mention the Magnitsky act and adoption in that context. But to mention that would be a) complicated, and b) most importantly, interfere with the narrative that Trump Jr met with them on supposedly innocent grounds but there may be so many more tantalising details that you can only find out if you tune in next.
re: #58 Anymouse 🌹
I’m more qualified than Kid Rock. I haven’t had any college, though I have written political articles. I’ve also been in the military so I understand how bureaucracy works, and on my village board so I understand (local) politics.
I still wouldn’t try to make a jump straight to the Senate. There are a few steps between “village board” and “Senate.”
Kid Rock is only qualified to be village idiot
re: #57 JordanRules
I bet they did. They’ve always known more than us. I remember DiFis face after one meeting. I remember Maxine’s face after another meeting.
Obama told McConnell shit was real. They don’t care.
I’ve seen reports the last day or so that say that the email trail was news to Mueller, though, which makes me think Kushner and his attorneys tried to fly this in under the radar as an update/modification to his SF86.
This suggests two things to me. First, that no, nobody knew about the emails. And second, that there’s a lot more stuff than just this, or Mueller wouldn’t need to be staffing up so heavily, even without knowing about this.
re: #55 TedStriker
See, I’m almost going the opposite direction, where there’s an audience who like high-energy emotional narratives and little interest in reality testing, and thus The Rock taking on Trump politically would harness the current cultural “feel” of politics as melodrama. I mean, if we’re going to do content-free populism, let’s really fucking get down and roll in the content-free populism.
re: #50 Targetpractice
The IC has known about it since April, but I imagine the emails were news to them.
According to Josh Marshall, they were news to the IC.
Man, Andre the Giant would have been such a great Vice President.
re: #59 Renaissance_Man
The reporting on this is further evidence of how miserable the news media really is. There is no possible common sense reason why a Russian lawyer would meet with the son of an underdog political candidate to discuss ‘adoption’. That people swallow this uncritically is further demonstration of how controlled the American populace is by their media. It makes no sense unless you also then mention the Magnitsky act and adoption in that context. But to mention that would be a) complicated, and b) most importantly, interfere with the narrative that Trump Jr met with them on supposedly innocent grounds but there may be so many more tantalising details that you can only find out if you tune in next.
And yet it was the news media that dug up the meeting and the emails and got Don Jr. to release them.
re: #52 lawhawk
Another way to frame that - McConnell is complict and he still doesn’t care what Trump does so long as the tax cuts roll in and Medicaid/Obamacare/Medicare get gutted for millions of people who rely on those programs.
Ryan, too. Remember them har dee har haring about Putin paying Trump?
re: #57 JordanRules
I bet they did. They’ve always known more than us. I remember DiFis face after one meeting. I remember Maxine’s face after another meeting.
Obama told McConnell shit was real. They don’t care.
Plus that was the black guy talking out of turn to McConnell.
re: #57 JordanRules
I bet they did. They’ve always known more than us. I remember DiFis face after one meeting. I remember Maxine’s face after another meeting.
Obama told McConnell shit was real. They don’t care.
They do care. About getting as much of their agenda passed as they can with the time they have left.
ICYMI: This morning I joined @johnberman & @poppyharlowcnn on @CNN to discuss the news of the day. pic.twitter.com/WeHr5ol6Nk
— Senator Joe Manchin (@Sen_JoeManchin) July 11, 2017
re: #46 JordanRules
On CNN, @SenatorLankford says the Senate Intelligence Committee found out about the Don Jr/Russian lawyer meeting in April.
— Yashar Ali (@yashar) July 12, 2017
In June you said you’d seen no evidence of collusion, Lankford says Senate intel committee told in April. Comment? https://t.co/4RNP55dWsx
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 12, 2017
It would appear that the Russian’s Operation Covfefe is starting to unravel.
re: #36 lawhawk
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I sympathize. I’ve been voting ding-a-ding-dang my dang-a-long ling-long for years, myself.
/Jesus built my car
re: #61 Blind Frog Belly White
I’ve definitely seen the same reporting and what you gleaned from that makes total sense.
I believe we have lots of SIGINT and are keeping a lot of stuff close to the vest for various understandable reasons. I also believe this is a very long con so that always colors how I interpret this stuff. You are being much more sober in your analysis than me which is not a bad thing at all.
did no one ask the bottom church officials? pic.twitter.com/kl1WsWqiKm
— Mathew Rodriguez (@mathewrodriguez) July 12, 2017
It’s an awkward position for intelligence investigators when the upper third of the Executive Branch is compromised. What do you reveal you know, when the Asshole in Chief invites the adversary right into the Oval Office with their own camera equipment?
Specifically asking you to explain this interview if Lankford is right & intel committee told of meeting in April.https://t.co/Jm5UAEyDPW
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 12, 2017
I don’t give a shit that Manchin is a Democrat he’s a West Virginia conservative and has been working to cover this whole thing up.
re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White
I think this is where the Right and Left differ. I don’t ever see people on the Left suggesting that any individual in a rural area, or in one of the Big Empty States should have less of a voice in government than they do, nor do I see the Left wanting to make it harder for white folks to vote.
I hate to engage in some anecdotal both-siderism here, but just about everyone I know on either side left or right, says, or has said, one or more of these:
1. Stupid people shouldn’t vote.
2. We shouldn’t be making it easier to vote. (if you can’t put a little effort into you shouldn’t do it)
3. There should be an IQ test required for voting.
4. You have have to pass a civics exam before voting.
5. People who are apathetic about politics or uninformed shouldn’t vote.
6. You should have to own *something*, not necessarily land, but some “asset”.
7. You should have to do public or military service to vote (ala Starship Troopers)
etc, etc, etc…
Of course everyone’s definition of “stupid people” or “ignorant people” varies widely and *never* includes themselves. There’s obviously some white privilege bullshit going on in some of these.
THE DIFFERENCE is, no one with any power from center to the left actually acts on this, but politicians on the right try to sneak shit like this into the law all the time.
After a nationwide backlash, the Department of Homeland Security has relented and will allow the all-girl’s robotics team from Afghanistan to enter the country for the upcoming competition they entered.
re: #72 JordanRules
I’ve definitely seen the same reporting and what you gleaned from that makes total sense.
I believe we have lots of SIGINT and are keeping a lot of stuff close to the vest for various understandable reasons. I also believe this is a very long con so that always colors how I interpret this stuff. You are being much more sober in your analysis than me which is not a bad thing at all.
Skeptic is what I do for a living. In Science, you should always be the harshest critic of your own hypotheses and analysis. If you aren’t, somebody else will be!
And after being burned a couple times by Confirmation Bias in political stuff, I try to be at least as skeptical there - scientific hypotheses don’t make shit up and conduct disinformation campaigns to get you to believe them!
re: #68 wrenchwench
They do care. About getting as much of their agenda passed as they can with the time they have left.
McConnell and pals are still trying to steer things to get a permanent majority.
Trump’s team of quacks and bigots aren’t qualified for much, but their assembled priorities amount to (1) negating and disenfranchising as many anti-GOP voters as possible, (2) empowering wingnut-friendly groups that will by hook and crook deceive, mislead, and intimidate people who question their narrative, (3) creating a cultural frame which will long-term produce less critical thinkers, and thus more people vulnerable to wingnut framing (because the GOP is not defined by conservatism, but by a style of thinking).
The GOP will fight to make this happen, because the other thing that unifies them is a sense that they’re the True Americans, and it’s their responsibility to “protect” the US by building a system in which their kind of people can do what they want.
re: #62 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus
See, I’m almost going the opposite direction, where there’s an audience who like high-energy emotional narratives and little interest in reality testing, and thus The Rock taking on Trump politically would harness the current cultural “feel” of politics as melodrama. I mean, if we’re going to do content-free populism, let’s really fucking get down and roll in the content-free populism.
Nah, I’d just like to see The Rock beat Trump’s ass, for real.
re: #80 TedStriker
Nah, I’d just like to see The Rock beat Trump’s ass.
You could sell tickets to that.
…Heyyyyyyy…
DHS is still being dicks about the Afghani girl’s entry into the USA:
The girls will not be granted visas, but instead “parole,” allowing them to stay in the U.S. for 10 days ― a reversal that occurred after President Donald Trump intervened in the matter, Politico reported. The teens will be able to take their robot to the FIRST Global Challenge, an international robotics competition in Washington this month.
re: #35 I Would Prefer Not To
I’m hoping that there is a backlash against idiots running for office.
If you were to ask me to name a celebrity/entertainer not named Al Franken who has been anything but a steaming pile of horseshit when they entered politics… I’d draw a blank.
re: #76 Jack Burton
I hate to engage in some anecdotal both-siderism here, but just about everyone I know on either side left or right, says, or has said, one or more of these:
1. Stupid people shouldn’t vote.
2. We shouldn’t be making it easier to vote. (if you can’t put a little effort into you shouldn’t do it)
3. There should be an IQ test required for voting.
4. You have have to pass a civics exam before voting.
5. People who are apathetic about politics or uninformed shouldn’t vote.
6. You should have to own *something*, not necessarily land, but some “asset”.
7. You should have to do public or military service to vote (ala Starship Troopers)etc, etc, etc…
Of course everyone’s definition of “stupid people” or “ignorant people” varies widely and *never* includes themselves. There’s obviously some white privilege bullshit going on in some of these.
THE DIFFERENCE is, no one with any power from center to the left actually acts on this, but politicians on the right try to sneak shit like this into the law all the time.
That’s why I was very specific in what I said. I’ve repeatedly heard people on the Right argue that people in rural areas and Big Empty States should have greater weight attached to their votes “so they aren’t dominated by the cities”, and of course they also favor restrictions on voting that would disproportionately disenfranchise nonwhite populations.
What I hear from the left is not a call to REVERSE those situation so that each of our votes counts MORE, but rather to make everyone’s vote count THE SAME.
re: #77 Anymouse 🌹
After a nationwide backlash, the Department of Homeland Security has relented and will allow the all-girl’s robotics team from Afghanistan to enter the country for the upcoming competition they entered.
That is good news. It was so outrageous that they were banned from entering the country, especially given that Afghanistan wasn’t on the ban list anyway. There is something seriously wrong with almost every appointment (Mattis excluded) of the Trump administration.
Who makes the MOST #FakeNews?
— Jeff (@JeffTutorials) July 12, 2017
Trump https://t.co/1wz0ZapZyr
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 12, 2017
re: #76 Jack Burton
I hate to engage in some anecdotal both-siderism here, but just about everyone I know on either side left or right, says, or has said, one or more of these:
1. Stupid people shouldn’t vote.
2. We shouldn’t be making it easier to vote. (if you can’t put a little effort into you shouldn’t do it)
3. There should be an IQ test required for voting.
4. You have have to pass a civics exam before voting.
5. People who are apathetic about politics or uninformed shouldn’t vote.
6. You should have to own *something*, not necessarily land, but some “asset”.
7. You should have to do public or military service to vote (ala Starship Troopers)etc, etc, etc…
Of course everyone’s definition of “stupid people” or “ignorant people” varies widely and *never* includes themselves. There’s obviously some white privilege bullshit going on in some of these.
THE DIFFERENCE is, no one with any power from center to the left actually acts on this, but politicians on the right try to sneak shit like this into the law all the time.
This is a problem with democracy as it stands. My take on it is that voting should be mandatory. Unquestionably. Most of the problems with the US electoral system would be fixed with that one change.
Voting is like taxes. It’s part of your mandatory contribution to a civil society. It’s true patriotism. Otherwise what you have isn’t democracy, but rather a race to suppress the votes of people who won’t vote for you.
I can see an argument for the other side, where voting isn’t given to everyone, but rather earned. That’s not an unreasonable position, and if such were the case, I could rationalise it being optional. But if you’re going to give the vote to everyone, everyone votes.
Good news everyone, the Earth will remain sort of inhabitable. https://t.co/GguZc06GUK pic.twitter.com/AUEzHkAT0o
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 12, 2017
re: #82 Anymouse 🌹
DHS is still being dicks about the Afghani girl’s entry into the USA:
And if Trump thinks that the US has any chance of getting there Olympics he’s fucking insane (I know, I know). Here’s turned away the robotics team. Various sports teams.
Can you say not a snowballs chance in hell?
re: #73 teleskiguy
What’s befallen the Catholic Church is set to hit American politics — endless humiliating scandals by Republicans complict in RussiaGate that will persist long after Trump is removed.
re: #82 Anymouse 🌹
DHS is still being dicks about the Afghani girl’s entry into the USA:
Parole??? So they’re fucking criminals now?
*spit*
re: #75 goddamnedfrank
I remain shocked by all the damn complicity!
re: #87 Renaissance_Man
Can’t go as far as mandatory voting, and conversely I can’t justify any limits on, or ‘earning’ the franchise. No matter how you slice it, everyone who lives in the country is impacted by what government does. Hence, the franchise should be as open as possible - over age of majority, citizen, not currently convicted serving a sentence, or on probation/parole. Any other restrictions, and you’re making unwarrantable value judgements and disenfranchising people who nonetheless are subject to the government’s control.
re: #45 DodgerFan1988
Trump followers are a dangerous cult just like Jonestown or the Branch Davidians.
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Ya think? Jeebz… pretty much anybody running for a bigtime office as a Republican has been part of the cult. It’s now guaranteed & has been for some time.
Probably the thing that Mr. Trump (and his whole family) would fear would be a money-laundering conviction. (New York’s AG might be looking at that.)
The penalty for money laundering (aside from jail) is asset forfeiture. That would leave them penniless.
re: #26 HappyWarrior
I am tired of people who know nothing about politics getting involved in politics at a high level.
Celebration of Celebrity.
And Reality TV has not helped one bit. It has distorted reality.
I really hope Trump doesn’t go all Wag The Dog and start bombing someone to try and take the media attention off of Russia.
re: #89 MsJ
And if Trump thinks that the US has any chance of getting there Olympics he’s fucking insane (I know, I know). Here’s turned away the robotics team. Various sports teams.
Can you say not a snowballs chance in hell?
Fat chance of it happening, but the IOC could make a bold statement and barr the U.S. from participating on the 2018 Winter Olympics. JUST to see Ill Douche have a meltdown over his KFC and Big Gulp.
re: #97 Eclectic Cyborg
I really hope Trump doesn’t go all Wag The Dog and start bombing someone to try and take the media attention off of Russia.
It’s part of the process. The blueprint has been used. Remember when we had to reelect George Bush because we were at war and it would be wrong to change leadership in the middle. Hoping congress will finally stand up to him, but who the @$#$@%#$ knows.
re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White
Can’t go as far as mandatory voting, and conversely I can’t justify any limits on, or ‘earning’ the franchise. No matter how you slice it, everyone who lives in the country is impacted by what government does. Hence, the franchise should be as open as possible - over age of majority, citizen, not currently convicted serving a sentence, or on probation/parole. Any other restrictions, and you’re making unwarrantable value judgements and disenfranchising people who nonetheless are subject to the government’s control.
I agree, which is why the vote should be open to all. And mandatory.
re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White
One issue concerning “currently convicted serving a sentence”: You can vote (even from jail) if you are serving a misdemeanor sentence. (Frequently get-out-the-vote drives include jails.)
As far as Felony convictions go, that depends on the state, but Felonies are often used to disenfranchise particular groups (cough cough African-Americans). Convicted Felons are still subject to all the laws of the land, including things like taxation.
re: #97 Eclectic Cyborg
I really hope Trump doesn’t go all Wag The Dog and start bombing someone to try and take the media attention off of Russia.
He already tried that with Syria. It was a dismal failure back then. It will be the same exact failure next time.
sums it up
Hi @KidRock, I made a campaign poster you can use: pic.twitter.com/ILAuRF1oDg
— Pixelated Boat (@pixelatedboat) July 12, 2017
re: #103 I Would Prefer Not To
Lol as a poet that rhyme always pisses me off. It’s as lazy as you can get for a writer. He could have least gone with:
“We were trying different drinks and we were smoking funny things…”
Not a perfect rhyme but hey at least there’s a bit of effort there.
re: #101 Anymouse 🌹
One issue concerning “currently convicted serving a sentence”: You can vote (even from jail) if you are serving a misdemeanour sentence. (Frequently get-out-the-vote drives include jails.)
As far as Felony convictions go, that depends on the state, but Felonies are often used to disenfranchise particular groups (cough cough African-Americans). Convicted Felons are still subject to all the laws of the land, including things like taxation.
Change that to ‘currently convicted of a felony, serving a sentence’ then.
My argument would be that a convicted felon serving time, one way or another, has forfeited their right to vote, as they’ve forfeited their right to their liberty, WHILE SERVING THEIR SENTENCE.
Once that’s done, and ‘debt to society’ discharged, I can’t see a reasonable argument for denying them the franchise. You’ve paid your debt to society, or you haven’t.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 12, 2017
The W.H. is functioning perfectly, focused on HealthCare, Tax Cuts/Reform & many other things. I have very little time for watching T.V.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 12, 2017
Ron Howard Voice: In fact the President had tweeted this while rageturbating to Fox & Friends. https://t.co/Wbn7xfKE4i
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 12, 2017
re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg
Lol as a poet that rhyme always pisses me off. It’s as lazy as you can get for a writer. He could have least gone with:
“We were trying different drinks and we were smoking funny things…”
Not a perfect rhyme but hey at least there’s a bit of effort there.
We were trying different (blings, strings, singz, wings) …
It’s not like you can’t make up your own freaking words.
Donald Trump Jr. dismissed and mocked claims of a Russia connection on several occasions during the 2016 campaign https://t.co/AVg63V9VJQ pic.twitter.com/sCGqoisrVw
— CNN (@CNN) July 12, 2017
re: #107 goddamnedfrank
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“The band is functioning perfectly. I have little time for heroin.”
Now it’s the KKKeebler Elf’s turn to self-immolate.
Sessions just abruptly dismissed a Russian money laundering case. Guess who the lawyer was - Veselnitskaya! https://t.co/1CaxdaPEQL
— Amy Siskind (@Amy_Siskind) July 12, 2017
If Hillary was President, Putin would be actively trying to undermine the USA. It is not about Trump or Clinton but Russia vs USA
— JohnCornyn (@JohnCornyn) July 12, 2017
Your 1st sentence attacks Clinton, then your 2nd sentence says “it’s not about Clinton.” What is wrong with you? https://t.co/mNAvPJGu0o
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 12, 2017
Look at this turd using Fake News to project like an IMAX in outer space.
.@WashTimes states “Democrats have willfully used Moscow disinformation to influence the presidential election against Donald Trump.”
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 12, 2017
re: #105 Blind Frog Belly White
Change that to ‘currently convicted of a felony, serving a sentence’ then.
My argument would be that a convicted felon serving time, one way or another, has forfeited their right to vote, as they’ve forfeited their right to their liberty, WHILE SERVING THEIR SENTENCE.
Once that’s done, and ‘debt to society’ discharged, I can’t see a reasonable argument for denying them the franchise. You’ve paid your debt to society, or you haven’t.
Well, my basic argument there was (aside from a discharged debt to society which we agree on) is what constitutes “forfeiting liberty.” Obviously being in prison means you cannot come and go as you will, but one of the founding slogans of the nation is “no taxation without representation.” An imprisoned felon is still subject to taxation for example.
Also, a felony conviction doesn’t necessarily include jail time - you could get probation for it.
This is one of those thorny issues you probably couldn’t get a whole lot of people to agree on. To me it seems simpler just to have an inalienable right to vote and be done with it. No parsing about “this convicted person is worthy, but that one is not.”
re: #112 Charles Johnson
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With Trump as President, Putin doesn’t need to actively undermine the USA. His pawn in the White House is perfectly capable of doing it for him.
re: #113 The Vicious Babushka
Mooney Times said what?
HOW TO TALK TO YOUR TEEN ABOUT COLLUDING WITH RUSSIA
TOM RUSSELL
Even the best-behaved teen is likely to encounter a situation where he or she is tempted to collude with Russia. Unfortunately for parents, a teen’s natural tendency to test the limits of independence can often manifest itself in his or her exchanging sensitive information with Russian emissaries for material or other rewards. If not constructively addressed during adolescence, colluding with Russia can have much more serious consequences in adulthood.
Here are a few tips for engaging in a healthy conversation with your teen about the hazards of colluding with Russia:
Keep the Lines of Dialogue Open
Don’t be shy about asking your teen where she has been, who she has spent time with, or why she has receipts from Cypriot bank wire transfers hidden under a false bottom of her jewelry case. If you discover a folder marked “parental Kompromat” try to stay focused and not act emotional. Think about her point of view and why she would consider it important to have your social security number, Gmail password, and Pornhub search history in a secret folder. Take advantage of these “teachable moments” to have meaningful discussions about colluding with Russia with your teen.
Explain the Negative Consequences of Colluding With Russia
When talking to your teen about colluding with Russia honesty is the best policy. You shouldn’t shy away from mentioning that a Federal indictment could turn into an awkward blemish on a college application, or that retributive Polonium poisoning could likely hamper one’s ability to compete for a coveted lacrosse scholarship. Remind them also that sharing their behavior on social media is never a good idea. Posting a selfie with a Russian aluminum magnate or “checking in” to a Kremlin safe house can have ramifications that are difficult to erase later on….
re: #100 Renaissance_Man
I agree, which is why the vote should be open to all. And mandatory.
It should also be equally EASY for everyone to vote. With wait times varying between 5 minutes and 7 hours across various states - this does not, in my view, mean “open to all”
re: #108 MsJ
We were trying different (blings, strings, singz, wings) …
It’s not like you can’t make up your own freaking words.
Some people call me the space cowboy.
Yeah! Some call me the gangster of love.
Some people call me Maurice,
‘Cause I speak of the pompatus of love
re: #115 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
With Trump as President, Putin doesn’t need to actively undermine the USA. His pawn in the White House is perfectly capable of doing it for him.
The Republican Party as a collective unit is doing the undermining. I’m not going to let any of them skate on this.
Such an honor to pray within the Oval Office for @POTUS & @VP . pic.twitter.com/JrDOSJyFeN
— Johnnie Moore ن (@JohnnieM) July 12, 2017
Something tells me this ceremony was more effective pic.twitter.com/ZrDDKZmEZH
— Keith Arsenault (@KeithArsenault) July 12, 2017
— gocart mozart (@HarryTuttle11) July 12, 2017
re: #58 Anymouse 🌹
I’m more qualified than Kid Rock. I haven’t had any college, though I have written political articles. I’ve also been in the military so I understand how bureaucracy works, and on my village board so I understand (local) politics.
I still wouldn’t try to make a jump straight to the Senate. There are a few steps between “village board” and “Senate.”
Yeah, so-so rap, rock, and country music makin’; then you can run for Senate.
Donald Trump Jr. realizing his dad would let him go to prison for 300 years to get out of attending a 2 hour Senate hearing. pic.twitter.com/ilT5raPmcl
— rob delaney (@robdelaney) July 10, 2017
Saving this screenshot for when my grandkids ask me what 2017 was like. pic.twitter.com/oFt0Nm86wP
— Copy McPasty, Writer (@KashannKilson) July 10, 2017
re: #114 Anymouse 🌹
Well, my basic argument there was (aside from a discharged debt to society which we agree on) is what constitutes “forfeiting liberty.” Obviously being in prison means you cannot come and go as you will, but one of the founding slogans of the nation is “no taxation without representation.” An imprisoned felon is still subject to taxation for example.
Also, a felony conviction doesn’t necessarily include jail time - you could get probation for it.
This is one of those thorny issues you probably couldn’t get a whole lot of people to agree on. To me it seems simpler just to have an inalienable right to vote and be done with it. No parsing about “this convicted person is worthy, but that one is not.”
Noncitizens also pay taxes. So do children, so it’s not really absolute.
And to my way of thinking, prison, probation, and parole are all ‘serving your time’, so I would not distinguish between an imprisoned felon and a paroled one. But at the end of the sentence, the disenfranchisement ends.
We already make distinctions between misdemeanors and felonies, so, yeah, ‘this convict is worth but that one is not’ is already part of the law, even leaving aside voting. And given that a number of states make the disenfranchisement permanent, trying to get to no disenfranchisement AT ALL is a really heavy lift against public opinion.
Hey Orange Overlord & lighter orange spawn! @realDonaldTrump @DonaldJTrumpJr how soon until profess you “hardly know each other?” #cantwait pic.twitter.com/CSo1J7qf9F
— A (@karatblood) July 12, 2017
My favorite Pat Robertson hot mic moment. pic.twitter.com/GUI8YETh5E
— Yashar Ali (@yashar) July 12, 2017
re: #107 goddamnedfrank
I watched CNN this morning and Cuomo and Camerota mentioned a few times things like, “We have reports that the president spent a lot of time yesterday watching TV news reports…” They also trolled him a bit by saying, “…so if you’re watching, Mr. President…” Trump is so stupid he lets everybody know that he was in fact hate-watching CNN by tweeting that he was doing the opposite. Fucking imbecile.
re: #126 Blind Frog Belly White
It’s tough enough to get states to agree to restore voting rights after discharging a Felony conviction, so you’re correct here - the idea of universal suffrage for all adult American citizens is likely a non-starter.
re: #64 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus
Man, Andre the Giant would have been such a great Vice President.
Inconceivable!
The poster, Todd Klein, was Lubbock County DEMOCRATIC chair a few years ago:
People who want The Rock to run for POTUS: “Trump just wasn’t involved in pro wrestling enough for me”.
— Clay C. (@ClayC1969) July 13, 2017
Now that Don, Jr. appears to have stepped in it big time, I wonder if he (or someone else related to that E-mail fiasco) is going to roll on the Large Hadron Colluder?
We filed a lawsuit against the Columbus Police Department for excessive force. #StopPoliceBrutality https://t.co/lLwDSeXLSg pic.twitter.com/SRa63nhCRk
— ACLU of Ohio (@acluohio) July 12, 2017
On video, police call dibs on protesters, chase them down as they disperse, and then celebrate. “I wanted that chick to get it.” https://t.co/KpKp73WJp3
— Joe Mead (@JosephWMead) July 12, 2017
re: #132 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
The poster, Todd Klein, was Lubbock County DEMOCRATIC chair a few years ago:
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Latest Trump defense (as judged by harassing phone calls, emails& twitter) is that Veselnitskaya was working for CIA & was setting up Don Jr
— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) July 12, 2017
@allahpundit has gone completely insane. I remember when the same thing happened to @Green_Footballs https://t.co/tmVD9E1RcZ
— Jackson Milktrane (@tongueriverice) July 13, 2017
When delusional Trumpanzees say I’ve “gone insane” it’s a badge of honor. https://t.co/29XpTElLKE
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
Tulsa cop who shot his daughter’s unarmed African-American boyfriend who extended his hand to her father receives his third mistrial.
Essentially, dad dumped daughter at a homeless shelter for sneaking out at night. Daughter started working at the shelter and became friends with the African-American volunteer. She moved in with him.
Dad saw on her Facebook wall she’d done that, so he looked up where the man lived and went to kill him. He claims he was protecting his daughter (after dumping her at a homeless shelter).
re: #141 Anymouse 🌹
Tulsa cop who shot his daughter’s unarmed African-American boyfriend who extended his hand to her father receives his third mistrial.
Essentially, dad dumped daughter at a homeless shelter for sneaking out at night. Daughter started working at the shelter and became friends with the African-American volunteer. She moved in with him.
Dad saw on her Facebook wall she’d done that, so he looked up where the man lived and went to kill him. He claims he was protecting his daughter (after dumping her at a homeless shelter).
Just read about this. Awful.
I think that when Trump supporters pass away they should receive a dignified burial.
Swansons Funeral Home in Flint shut down amid ‘deplorable’ conditions https://t.co/p5OTpUFbZA
— Detroit Free Press (@freep) July 13, 2017
re: #136 FormerDirtDart
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Damn.
They are also being looked at for their dispersal of the protesters at Rob Portman’s office at the Federal Building here in Columbus just the other day.
They just fired one cop for using excessive force.
I mentioned the other day, we have a new woman police chief. It does seem she has at the very least created an atmosphere for some of this, because the police force got their acts together for a few years because they had their issues in the 70s.
From the mid 80s up to maybe 2012 they had their problems, but they were trying.
This is getting nuts.
re: #143 HappyWarrior
Just read about this. Awful.
What seems to be most awful about this is the facts don’t seem to be in dispute. It seems you can’t get a jury in Oklahoma to convict a white cop for shooting an unarmed black man.
The article at BET notes the jury vote was 6-6, but it was unclear if it was six votes for murder and six for manslaughter, or six for murder and six for acquittal.
re: #140 Charles Johnson
Oh Charles, you need to go to the hospital, because you’ve been *burned* bro!
You were insane long before Trump had any followers. And so sad, you used to be entertaining and smart. Now neither
— Jackson Milktrane (@tongueriverice) July 13, 2017
re: #146 Anymouse 🌹
What seems to be most awful about this is the facts don’t seem to be in dispute. It seems you can’t get a jury in Oklahoma to convict a white cop for shooting an unarmed black man.
The article at BET notes the jury vote was 6-6, but it was unclear if it was six votes for murder and six for manslaughter, or six for murder and six for acquittal.
Exactly. It’s like something out of Jim Crow. I feel so for the family of the young man killed.
re: #147 teleskiguy
Oh Charles, you need to go to the hospital, because you’ve been *burned* bro!
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re: #145 ObserverArt
Damn.
They are also being looked at for their dispersal of the protesters at Rob Portman’s office at the Federal Building here in Columbus just the other day.
They just fired one cop for using excessive force.
I mentioned the other day, we have a new woman police chief. It does seem she has at the very least created an atmosphere for some of this, because the police force got their acts together for a few years because they had their issues in the 70s.
From the mid 80s up to maybe 2012 they had their problems, but they were trying.
This is getting nuts.
No one needs to try anything in Trump world. He wants police to be the only arbiter. He wants a police state.
You were insane long before Trump had any followers. And so sad, you used to be entertaining and smart. Now neither
— Jackson Milktrane (@tongueriverice) July 13, 2017
My tender feelings are now hurt. But somehow I’ll find the strength to carry on. https://t.co/VkXFbeDr10
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
Notorious liberal magazine Business Insider has a damning op-ed about the Don Jr. story.
(more at the link):
Maybe Natalia Veselnitskaya really did just waste everybody’s time.
But the people telling us that nothing came of the meeting are people who were in the meeting and would have reason to want us to believe that nothing came of the meeting. And they’re also lying liars who have been lying about all sorts of stuff, including, for months, whether there were contacts between the Trump campaign and agents of the Russian government.
Donald Trump Jr.’s story about why he took the meeting makes no sense. Tuesday night on “Hannity,” he repeatedly said he took it as “a courtesy” to “an acquaintance.” Was Trump Jr. routinely pulling Paul Manafort (the campaign chairman at the time) and Jared Kushner (Trump’s son-in-law, whose time is actually valuable) into meetings with unknown people with information of unknown value to provide courtesies to acquaintances? If so, he must have been extremely annoying to work with.
1/4 Well fuck you, you fucking racist friend of a traitor. Perhaps you can weigh in on how great it is that your buddy Donald conspired …
— Donnie Two Scoops (@Unabogie) July 13, 2017
2/4 with Russia to hack our election, our political parties, and is now conspiring to pay them back by lifting sanctions? You guys love …
— Donnie Two Scoops (@Unabogie) July 13, 2017
3/4 to pretend to be patriots, but you’re not. You’re the child of a wealthy family whose only passion in life is hurting the poor, and …
— Donnie Two Scoops (@Unabogie) July 13, 2017
4/4 you’re willing to collude with our enemies to achieve that abhorrent goal. You fucking horrible shitgibbon.
— Donnie Two Scoops (@Unabogie) July 13, 2017
The monkey selfie photographer is broke & can’t afford a new camera or to defend himself from lawsuits by monkeys https://t.co/upOGE7AACW
— Julia Carrie Wong (@juliacarriew) July 13, 2017
Litigious monkeys are the worst kind of primates. https://t.co/RC6E5j6YMh
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
Yeah, I wouldn’t count on that.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
re: #130 Anymouse 🌹
It’s tough enough to get states to agree to restore voting rights after discharging a Felony conviction, so you’re correct here - the idea of universal suffrage for all adult American citizens is likely a non-starter.
Odd this should come up. One of our local pastors has made tremendous progress in rights restoration.
(Actually, it’s not ‘restoration’, since his suits have established that many Alabama felons never lost their rights at all. The old constitution was tailored for White felons, on the assumption that AA citizens weren’t going to get to vote at all.)
Happy Birthday, @Malala! Your courage inspires us all to keep fighting for girls everywhere to get the education they deserve. pic.twitter.com/oTXwRWL1mU
— Michelle Obama (@MichelleObama) July 12, 2017
Right wingers invoke my name as sort of the ultimate insult when one of their tribe shows signs of waking up. I’m their boogeyman.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
re: #75 goddamnedfrank
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I don’t give a shit that Manchin is a Democrat he’s a West Virginia conservative and has been working to cover this whole thing up.
That’s why I’m a bit confused as to why Democrats bother voting for him. He’s not one of us. He’d fit in with Republicans very well. I wonder how often he votes in lockstep with them.
Sorry if this has been posted h/t to Eric Garland (same with Michelle Obama’s Birthday tribute above). Someone needs to teach that guy how to use utensils:
New video of all the people involved in setting up the meeting with Trump Jr interacting with Trump Sr in Moscow. pic.twitter.com/SgDMEMiJLL
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) July 12, 2017
The new Washington, DC! pic.twitter.com/JEXWtQV021
— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) July 12, 2017
Now, do an Orthodox Jewish woman. https://t.co/55UvDp0EZ6
— Josh Greenman (@joshgreenman) July 13, 2017
So…kid rocks political site asks are you scared yet….
I am scared that people will vote him into senate amd think he has their best interest. Just my god…
re: #160 Charles Johnson
Yeah, and now they’re best buddies with 9/11 truthers like Alex Jones.
— Gus™ (@Gus_802) July 13, 2017
Uncle Jimbo is a Trump supporters. Trump blamed 9/11 on Bush and called Iraq war a disaster. That used to be taboo for the right.
— Gus™ (@Gus_802) July 13, 2017
That’s what happens when a political party becomes unmoored from reality and sanity. Trump just says stuff to say stuff and they eat it up.
— Myron Falwell 😺 (@myronfalwell) July 13, 2017
re: #163 FormerDirtDart
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What’s her point? D.C. is a vibrant, diverse and multicultural city.
10 Minutes after TrumpJr’s conspiracy meeting on 6/9/16, TRUMP 1st tweeted 33,000 as the # of deleted Clinton emails pic.twitter.com/pMXnUEVsT2
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) July 13, 2017
re: #164 nowherenorth2
So…kid rocks political site asks are you scared yet….
I am scared that people will vote him into senate amd think he has their best interest. Just my god…
“Are you scared yet?” is quite a unique political motto.
re: #162 Barefoot Grin
Watching this video and the interview with Pat Robertson, I’ve realized how shallow Trump is. He’s impressed by rich and powerful men, so he tells people these are the richest men in Russia. He’s met 19 national leaders and he has to say how all of them get along with him just great. He only cares about superficial things, and how these other people somehow raise his own status (at least in his own mind).
It’s like a teenager swooning over meeting a famous pop star.
re: #166 Patricia Kayden
What’s her point? D.C. is a vibrant, diverse and multicultural city.
Icky Mooslims. ISIS women. Fear and loathing. The usual Fox bullshit.
re: #89 MsJ
And if Trump thinks that the US has any chance of getting there Olympics he’s fucking insane (I know, I know). Here’s turned away the robotics team. Various sports teams.
Can you say not a snowballs chance in hell?
The IOC is one of the most corrupt groups worldwide. tr*mp will be a crook in his own element in dealing with their requests for bribes, if he wants to take the time.
what in the utter fuck
The Nation published this TODAY. Who wants to tell them? pic.twitter.com/7orgOyqYrx
— Matt O’Brien (@ObsoleteDogma) July 12, 2017
re: #166 Patricia Kayden
What’s her point? D.C. is a vibrant, diverse and multicultural city.
There are embassies there, too.
re: #169 wheat-dogg
Watching this video and the interview with Pat Robertson, I’ve realized how shallow Trump is. He’s impressed by rich and powerful men, so he tells people these are the richest men in Russia. He’s met 19 national leaders and he has to say how all of them get along with him just great. He only cares about superficial things, and how these other people somehow raise his own status (at least in his own mind).
It’s like a teenager swooning over meeting a famous pop star.
He really is mediocre.
No.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
re: #152 Anymouse 🌹
Notorious liberal magazine Business Insider has a damning op-ed about the Don Jr. story.
(more at the link):
Anyone who believes that “nothing came of the meeting” between Donny Jr and Russian operatives is beyond naive. Trump and his ilk have given us no reason to believe anything they say.
Bruce Scapier comes up with the coolest car porn for Streamline Moderne (Bugatti Type 57 Gangloff roadster, should probably be called the Bat-gatti):
Front view from Ultimate Garage
re: #170 MsJ
Icky Mooslims. ISIS women. Fear and loathing. The usual Fox bullshit.
Walking about, alone? She’s a bit of a strumpet compared to a cloistered Carmelite nun.
re: #172 The Vicious Babushka
what in the utter fuck
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re: #174 Barefoot Grin
He really is mediocre.
Definitely not a deep thinker. I wonder who wrote his term papers in college.
One of the big reasons we’re in this mess is that people fall for the BS that people like John Cornyn spew continually.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
re: #170 MsJ
Icky Mooslims. ISIS women. Fear and loathing. The usual Fox bullshit.
Laura’s nonsense is why so many Muslims and other minorities have been verbally and physically assaulted since Trump stepped into the spotlight. She’s a disgusting human being.
re: #174 Barefoot Grin
All well known and well documented before he ran for office too. He’s superficial and vain and ignorant about how anything outside his real estate empire actually works.
That’s why all he and his admin do is post empty platitudes about everything.
And that’s also why Trump regurgitates Fox and Friends incessantly (that is when not touting Alex Jones crap). He is reactionary so that he doesn’t know anything or know any better about anything.
re: #181 wheat-dogg
Definitely not a deep thinker. I wonder who wrote his term papers in college.
Someone he probably stiffed.
re: #184 lawhawk
All well known and well documented before he ran for office too. He’s superficial and vain and ignorant about how anything outside his real estate empire actually works.
And his fans love him for that.
re: #180 Barefoot Grin
The Nation’s publisher/editor Katrina vanden Heuvel and her husband NYU professor Stephen Cohen have long been pushing for a thaw in US/Russian relations. They are more than willing to overlook Putin’s behavior; rather, they think that America can tame him with kindness.
They are delusional.
re: #172 The Vicious Babushka
what in the utter fuck
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Sergey can expand more on this but The Nation’s apologized for Putin many a time.
re: #180 Barefoot Grin
The Nation’s publisher/editor Katrina vanden Heuvel and her husband NYU professor Stephen Cohen have long been pushing for a thaw in US/Russian relations. They are more than willing to overlook Putin’s behavior; rather, they think that America can tame him with kindness.
So overlook Putin’s authoritarianism? His support for homophobia? His murder of journalists? His suppression of protests and criticism? Why? Very disappointed in The Nation.
re: #180 Barefoot Grin
The Nation’s publisher/editor Katrina vanden Heuvel and her husband NYU professor Stephen Cohen have long been pushing for a thaw in US/Russian relations. They are more than willing to overlook Putin’s behavior; rather, they think that America can tame him with kindness.
I was beginning to like The Nation because of their in depth articles on voter suppression. But Ari Berman has moved to Mother Jones now.
WHOA: Looks like Don Jr.’s Russian connection was in the U.S. illegally. https://t.co/2lRXD4kZLa pic.twitter.com/Pqpg1gBi9w
— Noah Shachtman (@NoahShachtman) July 13, 2017
I’m sure that a wall would have stopped her… /
re: #189 Patricia Kayden
So overlook Putin’s authoritarianism? His support for homophobia? His murder of journalists? His suppression of protests and criticism? Why? Very disappointed in The Nation.
I know.
It would help if they ~start asking~ tough questions of Trump and his cronies in the WH and from the campaign trail.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 13, 2017
re: #194 lawhawk
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re: #191 lawhawk
AHA! OBAMA DIDN’T DEPORT HER SO THE PLAN TO ENTRAP TRUMP COULD GO FORWARD.
How many times has John Cornyn voted against Trump’s position since he took office?
A: once. Out of 42 chances. https://t.co/jV7PjmtAgX— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
re: #161 Patricia Kayden
That’s why I’m a bit confused as to why Democrats bother voting for him. He’s not one of us. He’d fit in with Republicans very well. I wonder how often he votes in lockstep with them.
I’m not a big Manchin fan, but here’s a view from 538
Liberals Would Be Foolish To Primary Joe Manchin
He represents West Virginia! FiveThirtyEight’s “Trump Score,” which ignores party and instead compares how often members vote with Trump to how often we would expect them to based on Trump’s share of the vote in their state, shows Manchin as one of the Democrats’ most valuable members. Manchin votes for the Trump position occasionally, but he does so about 33 percentage points less than senators from similarly red states.
In other words, Manchin’s real worth to Democrats is that he’s a Democrat, because a Republican from West Virginia would probably vote GOP far more often. In fact, West Virginia’s other senator, Capito, has voted with Trump 100 percent of the time.
re: #169 wheat-dogg
Trump and the Living Corpse of Pat Robertson are so shallow that they climbed over a glass wall to see what was on the other side.
#TrumpRussia missing link Rob Goldstone is Trump’s mysterious 400-lb. guy providing stolen emails. #TheResistance can take that to the bank! pic.twitter.com/sQiAaaheqg
— Grant Stern (@grantstern) July 10, 2017
re: #198 BeachDem
I’m not a big Manchin fan, but here’s a view from 538
Liberals Would Be Foolish To Primary Joe Manchin
He represents West Virginia! FiveThirtyEight’s “Trump Score,” which ignores party and instead compares how often members vote with Trump to how often we would expect them to based on Trump’s share of the vote in their state, shows Manchin as one of the Democrats’ most valuable members. Manchin votes for the Trump position occasionally, but he does so about 33 percentage points less than senators from similarly red states.In other words, Manchin’s real worth to Democrats is that he’s a Democrat, because a Republican from West Virginia would probably vote GOP far more often. In fact, West Virginia’s other senator, Capito, has voted with Trump 100 percent of the time.
All politics is local.
I’ve been saying that a lot.
re: #197 Charles Johnson
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re: #202 MsJ
All politics is local.
I’ve been saying that a lot.
Indeed and as much as I dislike him, he would be better than a Republican.
To be fair to The Rock, at least Johnson appears to genuinely care about people and works to help them. … So he won’t be winning the Republican nomination any time soon.
re: #162 Barefoot Grin
Sorry if this has been posted h/t to Eric Garland (same with Michelle Obama’s Birthday tribute above). Someone needs to teach that guy how to use utensils:
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Credit goes to the evil failing CNN.
re: #191 lawhawk
WHOA: Looks like Don Jr.’s Russian connection was in the U.S. illegally.
I’m sure that a wall would have stopped her… /
Why did OBAMA lets the Russian spies in???
re: #205 LastYearsMan
To be fair to The Rock, at least Johnson appears to genuinely care about people and works to help them. … So he won’t be winning the Republican nomination any time soon.
Yeah. He’s not a bad guy really or a bigot. Just not cut out to be president which is okay since 99.99% of the country isn’t either.
re: #204 HappyWarrior
Indeed and as much as I dislike him, he would be better than a Republican.
We need the Manchins just like we need the Bernies. We don’t have votes to burn.
re: #208 FormerDirtDart
Why did OBAMA lets the Russian spies in???
You jest. That’s the talking point du jour.
1/4 Older Republicans like Cornyn have long been conditioned to see Russia as the enemy. So they balk at crossing that line. But …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
2/4 there’s NO other line they won’t cross. The younger Tea Party generation, on the other hand, has absolutely no ethics or morality …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
3/4 and will do anything for power, including colluding with foreign adversaries. And Donald Trump is a pure con man who’s exploiting …
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
4/4 all of them.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
If only it were this simple
Hello, 911 this 80 year old man won’t leave America alone even after we told him to go away pic.twitter.com/YNA41g2FkV
— William Smith (@WilliamJ_Smith) July 13, 2017
re: #206 Skip Intro
Clippy must now be the admin for Mark “The Gout One” Levin’s Twitter.
re: #202 MsJ
All politics is local.
I’ve been saying that a lot.
As someone who lives in a totally red dominated state, I hear you. I couldn’t believe it—at our Dem county executive committee meeting the other night, one of the more obnoxious Bernie Bros was re-litigating the fucking 2010 governor’s race, saying that because our candidate didn’t endorse gay marriage at the time, he lost all the gay vote and that’s why he lost the election (yeah—I’m sure they ran as fast as they could to vote for Nikki Haley—sigh.)
re: #201 The Vicious Babushka
..@grantstern At first I thought Sopranos remake.
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) July 13, 2017
re: #192 HappyWarrior
“I know.”
Some persons seems to be able to overlook the wrongdoings of others if there’s something in it for them. I imagine that Saint Ronnie would rollover over in his grave if he could witness the way many on the Right have rolled over/are rolling over for Putin.
re: #217 BeachDem
As someone who lives in a totally red dominated state, I hear you. I couldn’t believe it—at our Dem county executive committee meeting the other night, one of the more obnoxious Bernie Bros was re-litigating the fucking 2010 governor’s race, saying that because our candidate didn’t endorse gay marriage at the time, he lost all the gay vote and that’s why he lost the election (yeah—I’m sure they ran as fast as they could to vote for Nikki Haley—sigh.)
And of course, if you point out something like Sanders’ own vote and sponsor of environmentally racist legislation and his NRA record and and his immigration record, you get HE WAS VOTING FOR HIS STATE. I’m just tired of the Bros double standard bs. Obviously we should have standards but the double standards Sanders got and continues to get away with piss me off.
re: #219 majii
“I know.”
Some persons seems to be able to overlook the wrongdoings of others if there’s something in it for them. I imagine that Saint Ronnie would rollover over in his grave if he could witness the way many on the Right have rolled over/are rolling over for Putin.
Well we’re talking about The Nation here but yep.
re: #217 BeachDem
As someone who lives in a totally red dominated state, I hear you. I couldn’t believe it—at our Dem county executive committee meeting the other night, one of the more obnoxious Bernie Bros was re-litigating the fucking 2010 governor’s race, saying that because our candidate didn’t endorse gay marriage at the time, he lost all the gay vote and that’s why he lost the election (yeah—I’m sure they ran as fast as they could to vote for Nikki Haley—sigh.)
Can’t see the forest for the trees.
re: #219 majii
“I know.”
Some persons seems to be able to overlook the wrongdoings of others if there’s something in it for them. I imagine that Saint Ronnie would rollover over in his grave if he could witness the way many on the Right have rolled over/are rolling over for Putin.
St. Ronnie would never make it in today’s Republican party. He would be a dirty liberal hippy from California.
I really hate how the Bros want to make everything a litmus test of the 2016 primary.
re: #223 MsJ
St. Ronnie would never make it in today’s Republican party. He would be a dirty liberal hippy from California.
With too few wives.
re: #220 HappyWarrior
And of course, if you point out something like Sanders’ own vote and sponsor of environmentally racist legislation and his NRA record and and his immigration record, you get HE WAS VOTING FOR HIS STATE. I’m just tired of the Bros double standard bs. Obviously we should have standards but the double standards Sanders got and continues to get away with piss me off.
Most of the bros I know scoff at “identity” politics, unless, of course, it infringes on their particular identity. Yes, in a world of unicorns and rainbows, having totally liberal (I prefer that word to the new buzz on progressive) candidates in every office would be lovely, but it ain’t gonna happen in south by dog carolina (or lots of other places.) Getting any Dem in office is an almost insurmountable challenge, and if we can get one who votes with us 70-80-90% of the time, I’ll take it over a Republican who will vote with us ZERO percent of the time. I don’t know why that is so hard for Berners to comprehend.
re: #223 MsJ
St. Ronnie would never make it in today’s Republican party. He would be a dirty liberal hippy from California.
Reagan would sell out whatever principles he claimed to hold if it meant he could get Robert Bork on the Supreme Court. In a heartbeat.
I earlier stated that Katrina vanden Heuvel and her husband are soft on Russia and Putin. I stand by that based on a couple of lectures at the Aspen series and elsewhere that I was linked to by an old friend who does business in Russia. He specifically sent them to show that there was another way besides antagonizing Putin.
But that is my sole source. If you are a Nation fan, don’t give up based on my comments for sure.
I’ll look for the links.
Firefly’s are mother natures laser pointers for my cat. She sits on the porch at this time of night and follows every flash, this way and that, in the bushes along the skirting of the porch.
re: #214 Myron Falwell
“Sanders: I could still run for president in 2020”
Yes, he could, but I’m hoping that if he decides to throw his hat into the ring, Perez won’t permit him to run on the Democratic Party ticket, and he’ll be forced to run as an Independent. He was allowed to run as a Dem in 2016 and wasted no time leaving the party after he didn’t win the nomination. I used to like Sanders—-until he began to demonstrate how toxic he is to the Democratic Party. Others may not agree, but I now see Sanders as a divisive, self-serving politician and a user, and as long as the Democratic Party puts up with his and his supporters BS, they won’t get one cent from me. The Democratic Party keeps sending me snail mail asking for contributions, and I keep putting it into the nearest trash can. I donate to individual Democratic politicians, but not to the Democratic Party.
re: #231 majii
“Sanders: I could still run for president in 2020”
Yes, he could, but I’m hoping that if he decides to throw his hat into the ring, Perez won’t permit him to run on the Democratic Party ticket, and he’ll be forced to run as an Independent. He was allowed to run as a Dem in 2016 and wasted no time leaving the party after he didn’t win the nomination. I used to like Sanders—-until he began to demonstrate how toxic he is to the Democratic Party. Others may not agree, but I now see Sanders as a divisive, self-serving politician and a user, and as long as the Democratic Party puts up with his and his supporters BS, they won’t get one cent from me. The Democratic Party keeps sending me snail mail asking for contributions, and I keep putting it into the nearest trash can. I donate to individual Democratic politicians, but not to the Democratic Party.
We have the same opinion. I used to be a Sanders admirer too. Lost a lot of respect for him for how he handled 2016 and honestly learning about him in general. Honestly, I’d love to see him knocked from the left just so he can see what ti’s like and believe it or not, there are things you can attack him from the left on that aren’t just guns.
re: #226 BeachDem
Most of the bros I know scoff at “identity” politics, unless, of course, it infringes on their particular identity. Yes, in a world of unicorns and rainbows, having totally liberal (I prefer that word to the new buzz on progressive) candidates in every office would be lovely, but it ain’t gonna happen in south by dog carolina (or lots of other places.) Getting any Dem in office is an almost insurmountable challenge, and if we can get one who votes with us 70-80-90% of the time, I’ll take it over a Republican who will vote with us ZERO percent of the time. I don’t know why that is so hard for Berners to comprehend.
Adding to my comment—I don’t have a problem with individual voters having their own personal litmus tests as far as going all in on a candidate—i.e. giving money, working on campaigns. I know a few here who I will not give money or time to because of issues I really disagree with them on. But I don’t bad-mouth them and run them down. But I’ll still vote for a Democrat over a Republican 99.9% of the time.*
*the .1% relates to rat-fucking shenanigans, when non-Dems somehow get in the race as Dems. That has happened here not that long ago.
Breitbart editor in public vs. Breitbart editor in private pic.twitter.com/SasemMirU2
— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) July 11, 2017
re: #235 Charles Johnson
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re: #219 majii
I dunno.
This is a different Russia, with regard to the one criterion that mattered: Godless Communism. The only hangover issue from that era is the predominance of Soviet figures in the new government, which crops up on occasion.
That the new Russia is social conservative, driven by conspiracy logic, and governed largely by an oligarchic cadre for an oligarchic cadre…these are not negatives.
The only obstacle is that in reformulating itself, the Russian Federation has adopted a new version of a Russian cultural trope (the unappreciated hero “protecting” the West while being scorned by its decadent, weak neighbors* ) that includes anti-American puffery.
*see Russia: the Story of War by Gregory Carleton for a great accounting of how Russia has a vision of itself that is cultural, and thus has been appropriated by each political movement—Tsarist, Communist, Kleptocracy—to justify skullduggery and cruelty.
But that’s fading, because the new US “conservative” paradigm has increasingly adopted a similar story of how they’re both victims and heroes, and deserve deference in nonspecific ways (that amount to “we get to do what we want, and tell you what you’re allowed to do.).
Trump/Russia is goddamn important. Healthcare is goddamn important. But we had better not lose sight of Trump’s voter fraud commission that is the first national attempt to suppress the vote. He keeps adding vote-suppression assholes to the commission. It needs to be stopped. It is based on real fake news.
John Oliver Joins The ‘Trump Attacked Me On Twitter’ Hall Of Fame. Watch to see trumps bizarre and inexplicable lie. https://t.co/XFQFCcw8Zm
— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) July 13, 2017
Bernie has done as much to ratfuck the US and put us in the position we’re now in as anyone, including Putin. Can he please just go the fuck away now?
Sessions just abruptly dismissed a Russian money laundering case. Guess who the lawyer was - Veselnitskaya! https://t.co/1CaxdaPEQL
— Amy Siskind (@Amy_Siskind) July 12, 2017
James Woods needs to go back to the landfills from which he came.
This is sweet. Wait until this poor kid grows up, realizes what you’ve done, and stuffs both of you dismembered into a freezer in the garage pic.twitter.com/1k3ITApFsF
— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) July 10, 2017
re: #245 DodgerFan1988
James Woods needs to go back to the landfills from which he came.
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Nah, Jimmy, he won’t grow up to be a hate-filled thug like you.
re: #245 DodgerFan1988
James Woods needs to go back to the landfills from which he came.
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James is afraid the kid will grow up to make a major movie and won’t ask him to be in it.
re: #245 DodgerFan1988
Dudes a waste. Such a waste.
Humanity must buck the system run by predatory elites to reach the next level of advanced tech and limitless potential. pic.twitter.com/lRrpJmnZfF
— Alex Jones (@RealAlexJones) July 12, 2017
This is the plot to Deus Ex https://t.co/3SB14uUNzK
— Lib Crusher (@lib_crusher) July 12, 2017
re: #245 DodgerFan1988
James Woods needs to go back to the landfills from which he came.
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re: #249 The Spite House
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I like how Alex Jones prorfesses to be “anti” elite but loves sucking off Trump and his friends.
Woods is a talented actor. It is too he’s a raging dick politically.
re: #219 majii
“I know.”
Some persons seems to be able to overlook the wrongdoings of others if there’s something in it for them. I imagine that Saint Ronnie would rollover over in his grave if he could witness the way many on the Right have rolled over/are rolling over for Putin.
All Putin would need to do for St Ronnie to fall in love is pretend he’s a Christian the way Gorbachev did. Gorby played Ronnie like a fiddle & Putin would be just as good, if not better at it. Ronnie, being as mentally gone as he was by then, would have smiled and done as he was told to do.
re: #254 William Lewis
All Putin would need to do for St Ronnie to fall in love is pretend he’s a Christian the way Gorbachev did. Gorby played Ronnie like a fiddle & Putin would be just as good, if not better at it. Ronnie, being as mentally gone as he was by then, would have smiled and done as he was told to do.
Putin and Ronnie haev similiar economic beleifs than Ronnie and Gorby did too.
Hobby Time! I got bored and worked on a side project for fun. #PaintingWarhammer pic.twitter.com/KuUCs3WAVw
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 13, 2017
James Woods wasn’t acting in Ghosts of Mississippi. He really is a racist bigoted piece of shit, probably loved the idea of playing Medgar Evers’ assassin.
re: #157 Charles Johnson
I’m so old I can remember when the Republicans regarded the Russians as the enemy on the world stage. But them I’m just a two year old CAT.
— Manksy (@TheManksy) July 13, 2017
re: #253 HappyWarrior
Woods is a talented actor. It is too he’s a raging dick politically.
People remember O. J. Simpson for getting away with a double murder far, far more than they remember him for whatever degree of comedic timing he possessed in the Naked Gun series.
James Woods is a loathsome waste of human tissue, and that precedes everything.
re: #259 Myron Falwell
People remember O. J. Simpson for getting away with a double murder far, far more than they remember him for whatever degree of comedic timing he possessed in the Naked Gun series.
James Woods is a loathsome waste of human tissue, and that precedes everything.
So true.
Trump education official: 90% of campus rape complaints “fall into the category of ‘we were both drunk’” https://t.co/dxp0EdfE9J
— The New York Times (@nytimes) July 12, 2017
This may be the most horrible garbage person in the entire horrible garbage Trump administration. #TheResistance https://t.co/9zuwpeg3MT
— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) July 13, 2017
re: #261 The Vicious Babushka
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That DeVos comment LITERALLY made my jaw drop.
I agree, she is what garbage would turn its nose up at, proclaiming it utter garbage.
Dear Betsy: raping a drunk person while you are drunk is still rape.
re: #263 The Vicious Babushka
Dear Betsy: raping a drunk person while you are drunk is still rape.
And her buddy, Candice Jackson is the rancid cherry on top of Betsy’s garbage pile.
re: #261 The Vicious Babushka
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Being drunk is no excuse. I was around many drunk young women in college and I was drunk too. Still knew no meant no.
Trump education official: 90% of campus rape complaints “fall into the category of ‘we were both drunk’” https://t.co/dxp0EdfE9J
— The New York Times (@nytimes) July 12, 2017
News flash for Devos: If you’re drunk, and you rape someone who is also drunk, you still just committed rape https://t.co/y2vG26qIox
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 13, 2017
Jeffrey Dahmer is relieved to know being drunk made his rapes and murders okay according to Betsy Wetsy.
Reality check time again.
“Donald Trump Jr.’s appearance on Fox News’ “Hannity” scored strong ratings for the cable news network on Tuesday night.
2.9 million viewers tuned in to watch Trump Jr. discuss his meeting with a Russian lawyer last year, with 664,000 of those falling in the key adults 25-54 demographic, making it the most-watched cable news show of the night in total viewers. “Hannity” also topped the 10 p.m. timeslot in both measures, beating out both MSNBC’s “Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell” (2.34 million, 576,000) and CNN’s “CNN Tonight” (1.13 million, 369,000). Additionally, the program was up 20% in total viewers and up 41% in the 25-54 demographic versus the same time last year.”
re: #264 BeachDem
And her buddy, Candice Jackson is the rancid cherry on top of Betsy’s garbage pile.
Skimming through the article: Jackson was raped when she was younger.
re: #253 HappyWarrior
Woods is a talented actor. It is too he’s a raging dick politically.
I don’t expect political sensibility to seamlessly match artistic merit. But then I don’t understand why anyone does that. I watch Sean Penn in a performance. I can love the film. Watch him at the DNC or a fundraiser? Well… No.
re: #270 Unshaken Defiance
I don’t expect political sensibility to seamlessly match artistic merit. But then I don’t understand why anyone does that. I watch Sean Penn in a performance. I can love the film. Watch him at the DNC or a fundraiser? Well… No.
Yeah I’ve never refused to see a movie over an actors politics. In fact, my favorite movie has two prominent conservative actors in it.
I fucking hate this guy.
Racist perjurer gives closed door speech to anti-LGBT, antichoice group but won’t tell anyone else what he said https://t.co/dt5gqIFqzY
— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) July 13, 2017
re: #269 Belafon
Skimming through the article: Jackson was raped when she was younger.
So she claims, but she doesn’t believe other women’s stories. Actually, the quote in that tweet is from Jackson, not DeVos.
re: #262 BeachDem
That DeVos comment LITERALLY made my jaw drop.
I agree, she is what garbage would turn its nose up at, proclaiming it utter garbage.
It’s all part of the DeVos agenda. Defund education. Shut down schools. Push anti-science policies. Promote church-based private schools. Tell universities to quit punishing rapists so women will stop going to college.
Looking forward to the day DeVos dies from an infestation of carnivorous scarab beetles.
re: #259 Myron Falwell
People remember O. J. Simpson for getting away with a double murder far, far more than they remember him for whatever degree of comedic timing he possessed in the Naked Gun series.
James Woods is a loathsome waste of human tissue, and that precedes everything.
Thing is, OJ was/is a decent enough actor; I still do think his performance as the Glass Tower’s everyman security chief in The Towering Inferno (his first big role after his NFL career, IIRC) as a key part of the movie’s ensemble cast, was pretty good.
re: #249 The Spite House
Dude. Seriously. Did you have some bad sushi at Uchi or something?
— efuseakay (@efuseakay) July 13, 2017
Uchi is a popular (and quite pricey) sushi place in Austin that he frequents, for those of you wondering.
OK—I’m going back to Unbreakable Kimmy Shmidt. (You gotta love a show where Carole Kane plays a landlord who’s dating Robert Durst.)
Later.
re: #277 GlutenFreeJesus
Predatory elitist warns his marks about predatory elites.
re: #268 Skip Intro
I’m less surprised by Hannity pulling those numbers than I am by MSNBC still doing so well in that time slot.
re: #268 Skip Intro
Reality check time again.
“Donald Trump Jr.’s appearance on Fox News’ “Hannity” scored strong ratings for the cable news network on Tuesday night.
2.9 million viewers tuned in to watch Trump Jr. discuss his meeting with a Russian lawyer last year, with 664,000 of those falling in the key adults 25-54 demographic, making it the most-watched cable news show of the night in total viewers. “Hannity” also topped the 10 p.m. timeslot in both measures, beating out both MSNBC’s “Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell” (2.34 million, 576,000) and CNN’s “CNN Tonight” (1.13 million, 369,000). Additionally, the program was up 20% in total viewers and up 41% in the 25-54 demographic versus the same time last year.”
I want the ratings for tonight’s show, when Hannity goes back to his usual pablum that’s hemorrhaged viewers over the past year.
Besides, most people wanted to view the train wreck. And Don Jr.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) July 13, 2017
re: #275 scottslemmons
It’s all part of the DeVos agenda. Defund education. Shut down schools. Push anti-science policies. Promote church-based private schools. Tell universities to quit punishing rapists so women will stop going to college.
Looking forward to the day DeVos dies from an infestation of carnivorous scarab beetles.
DeVos hasn’t set foot in a single public school since she got (deservedly) hounded out of one back in April. That she’s deeply hated and despised as much as she is probably is the lone saving grace.
re: #284 teleskiguy
Is this a new house flipping couple on HGTV?
re: #284 teleskiguy
(Family guy reference)
Dude. In the ear doesn’t count.
— efuseakay (@efuseakay) July 13, 2017
re: #257 teleskiguy
“James Woods wasn’t acting in Ghosts of Mississippi.”
His buddy Clint Eastwood is holding casting calls for extras for a movie he’s filming here in Middle GA. I read the article a couple hours ago and told my four—legged baby Penelope Penny that there’s no way I’d help Eastwood to do sh*t. “He who talked to an empty chair” is also a racist bigoted POS. I never understand persons like Woods. Their tendency to interfere in matters that don’t impact them irks me to no end. They don’t have to live with LGBTQ persons, but they never stop thinking of new ways to treat them like 4th Class citizens. What is wrong with them? I wish someone would give me a bit of insight into why they’re so d*mn nosy when they have little to no contact with LGBTQ citizens, POC, atheists, etc.
OT and just jumping into the thread: my sister and BIL are at Red Rocks tonight seeing Ween, VIP style. I am absolutely eating my heart out, as I have been a fan for 20+ years and my family, who don’t really see Ween as the musical forte that I do, are seeing them tonight at MF RED ROCKS. RED ROCKS.
re: #290 Flying Squirrel Girl
OT and just jumping into the thread: my sister and BIL are at Red Rocks tonight seeing Ween, VIP style. I am absolutely eating my heart out, as I have been a fan for 20+ years and my family, who don’t really see Ween as the musical forte that I do, are seeing them tonight at MF RED ROCKS. RED ROCKS.
The show sold out so goddamn quickly. I wish I was there, been a disciple of the Boognish since high school (a long ass time in rock ‘n’ roll time).
re: #289 majii
“James Woods wasn’t acting in Ghosts of Mississippi.”
Their tendency to interfere in matters that don’t impact them irks me to no end. They don’t have to live with LGBTQ persons, but they never stop thinking of new ways to treat them like 4th Class citizens. What is wrong with them? I wish someone would give me a bit of insight into why they’re so d*mn nosy when they have little to no contact with LGBTQ citizens, POC, atheists, etc.
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