Jason Isbell Live on Austin City Limits: “Cover Me Up”

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A heart on the run keeps a hand on the gun you can’t trust anyone
I was so sure what I needed was more tried to shoot out the sun
Days when we raged, we flew off the page such damage was done
But I made it through, cause somebody knew I was meant for someone

So girl, leave your boots by the bed we ain’t leaving this room
Till someone needs medical help or the magnolias bloom
It’s cold in this house and I ain’t going out to chop wood
So cover me up and know you’re enough to use me for good

Put your faith to the test when I tore off your dress in Richmond on high
But I sobered up and I swore off that stuff forever, this time
And the old lovers sing “I thought it’d be me who helped him get home”
But home was a dream, one I’d never seen till you came along

So girl, hang your dress up to dry we ain’t leaving this room
Till Percy Priest breaks open wide and the river runs through
And carries this house on the stones like a piece of driftwood
Cover me up and know you’re enough to use me for good

So girl, leave your boots by the bed we ain’t leaving this room
Till someone needs medical help or the magnolias bloom
It’s cold in this house and I ain’t going out to chop wood
So cover me up and know you’re enough to use me for good
Cover me up and know you’re enough to use me for good

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275 comments

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JordanRules  Jul 15, 2017 • 10:03:20pm

Tonight’s Innovation Hub podcast episode on my NPR station was really good!

Full Show: Big Oversights
When did the fight for human rights begin? According to Lynn Hunt, the 18th century. And why? One answer is rather unexpected: the rise of the novel. Childhood experiences can drastically affect a person’s health for the rest of their life. We talk to a doctor about what that means for medicine. Science gave us penicillin, the moon landing, and the theory of evolution. But scientists can also make really big mistakes.

npr.org

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2017 • 10:16:31pm

A doctor takes apart in eight minutes the fauxumetary “What the Health.” It is a condensation of every quack idea out there, including some guy who sells a book and is apparently trying to kill diabetics.

A Doctor Watches “What The Health” | ZDoggMD.com

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TedStriker  Jul 15, 2017 • 10:20:28pm
So girl, hang your dress up to dry we ain’t leaving this room
Till Percy Priest breaks open wide and the river runs through
And carries this house on the stones like a piece of driftwood
Cover me up and know you’re enough to use me for good

Nice little Nashville shoutout by Isbell; I’ve been to Percy Priest Lake (and the dam) many times over my life.

en.wikipedia.org

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 15, 2017 • 10:23:12pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹

I didn’t even know this movie existed. I’ll steer far away from it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2017 • 10:35:44pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

I didn’t even know this movie existed. I’ll steer far away from it.

My wife likes to follow moonbat and wingnut medical quackery. I didn’t know the movie existed either until she said “look at this” (referring to the doctor’s takedown of this).

It seems that it was produced by a comedian and a failed NFL player (really). Just the sort of folks I want to go to for my medical advice.

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teleskiguy  Jul 15, 2017 • 10:39:16pm
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JordanRules  Jul 15, 2017 • 10:41:02pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

Woot! Non-crazy states represent!
Great signing location.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2017 • 10:41:06pm

My regional newspaper (which is the principal source for news for most folk around here aside from FOX, Sinclair, and Christian hate radio) is doing its level best to avoid any mention of Trump, his family, or their scandals. There hasn’t been anything there for days about the Trumps.

(If they follow their usual pattern, they will only report on Trump if he does something good. With the steaming pile of espionage surrounding him and his family, they might never report on him again.)

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teleskiguy  Jul 15, 2017 • 10:46:00pm

re: #7 JordanRules

My governor is awesome. He’s a trained scientist (geology) and successful brewer/restaurateur.

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retired cynic  Jul 15, 2017 • 10:49:18pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

My governor is awesome. He’s a trained scientist (geology) and successful brewer/restaurateur.

I hope he is thinking of higher office. I heard him on the radio last year, and he sounded just fine. Touch of humor helped.

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JordanRules  Jul 15, 2017 • 10:53:46pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

States like CO should continue to provide a great example and govern for their people with an eye towards the future.

If that doesn’t start to make an impact, well…..
What makes a union afterall?

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teleskiguy  Jul 15, 2017 • 10:54:21pm

re: #10 retired cynic

I hope he is thinking of higher office. I heard him on the radio last year, and he sounded just fine. Touch of humor helped.

He has actually dismissed higher office in no uncertain terms. He’s gone through a lot of bullshit as governor of Colorado, especially in his first term. He can do politics, but only to a point. We shall see. I think John Hickenlooper is an effective Democratic politician. He could make some amazing things happen in future election cycles.

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retired cynic  Jul 15, 2017 • 11:00:31pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

He has actually dismissed higher office in no uncertain terms. He’s gone through a lot of bullshit as governor of Colorado, especially in his first term. He can do politics, but only to a point. We shall see. I think John Hickenlooper is an effective Democratic politician. He could make some amazing things happen in future election cycles.

We need new voices. I don’t think our ideas are tired, but we need people taking up the torch.

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freetoken  Jul 15, 2017 • 11:02:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2017 • 11:05:01pm

re: #13 retired cynic

We need new voices. I don’t think our ideas are tired, but we need people taking up the torch.

We need people taking up the torch that want to do it. We also need people holding the torch in lower offices. John Hickenlooper seems happy in the position he’s in (as is Elizabeth Warren). If Gov. Hickenlooper or Sen. Warren are happy in their positions, then they do valuable service in those places. (We need people taking up the torch at all levels of governance.)

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retired cynic  Jul 15, 2017 • 11:07:08pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

Totally agree. I just assumed he would hit term limits at some point, and I thought he sounded like a good one.

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teleskiguy  Jul 15, 2017 • 11:07:48pm
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JordanRules  Jul 15, 2017 • 11:12:27pm

We’re better at multi-tasking, and finally getting shit right!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2017 • 11:22:32pm

re: #16 retired cynic

Totally agree. I just assumed he would hit term limits at some point, and I thought he sounded like a good one.

Governor Hickenlooper is term-limited in the Colorado Constitution to two terms (eight years).

He was elected to his second term in 2014, so his term ends in 2018.

He might change his mind on seeking another office, such as Representative or Senator. Or maybe not. I sure don’t want someone in government that doesn’t want to be there (cough cough Marco Rubio).

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JordanRules  Jul 15, 2017 • 11:29:34pm

Excited!!

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freetoken  Jul 15, 2017 • 11:37:20pm

Dan Bell has this latest Dead Mall video up:

DEAD MALL SERIES : Two Quirky Malls in Michigan : Dort Mall & Hampton Square Mall

Both are in Michigan, the first being Dort Mall in Flint, and the second one Hampton Square Mall in Essexville, which is right next door to Bay City.

When I see these dead malls I am reified in my belief that suburbia is just a dead-end lifestyle. It’s kept alive today by artificially low gasoline prices.

Still, in both cases (ignoring for now Flint’s water problem) I can’t help but wonder if both these small cities were expanding through immigration that the local commerce would be much, much healthier.

Sure, it snows a lot in winter, especially up near Bay City which is too close to the Great Lakes, but compared to many places on this planet Michigan is not a bad place to live. I’ve only been through there, not lived there. Yet it strikes me as being a very American problem - the problems with which Michigan struggles - that is, of being slow to adapt yet still essentially rich in land and possibilities.

After the last election so much time was given to how those states which are part of the old industrial America, then became the “rust belt”, were hurting and that is why Clinton didn’t do as well in those locations, and why Trump was so popular there.

But I think there are deeper things at work in America, about how we think about ourselves, our struggle to accept the death of the old, and to embrace the future.

The central and western parts of that state are steeped in fundamentalist Christianity, and that is part of the problem. Letting go of the old ways is particularly going to be hard there.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 15, 2017 • 11:40:12pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 15, 2017 • 11:44:43pm

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

Dude, don’t forget the raw sex appeal. It’s a force to be reckoned with, a force *you* pointed out.

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teleskiguy  Jul 15, 2017 • 11:50:27pm

Seriously, folks.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2017 • 11:52:23pm

I’m out for the night. I gotta sleep sometime. (I’ve been having trouble with that for the last couple days.)

I’ll leave you fine folk to preserve the country whilst I sleep.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2017 • 11:59:39pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

My regional newspaper (which is the principal source for news for most folk around here aside from FOX, Sinclair, and Christian hate radio) is doing its level best to avoid any mention of Trump, his family, or their scandals. There hasn’t been anything there for days about the Trumps.

(If they follow their usual pattern, they will only report on Trump if he does something good. With the steaming pile of espionage surrounding him and his family, they might never report on him again.)

until another Marine loses his hat

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 16, 2017 • 12:06:32am

The vigilant comrades at DPRK News don’t miss anything.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2017 • 12:16:03am

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The vigilant comrades at DPRK News don’t miss anything.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 12:18:33am

re: #21 freetoken

I agree that in the US, suburbia is slowly dying off - as you said, it’s only low gasoline prices that keep it existing in its increasingly zombified state.

I looked it up - the Hampton Town Centre mall was pretty much killed off by the opening of the Bay City Mall not far away. I read somewhere, I’ve forgotten where now, that there’s basically a glut of suburban shopping malls; malls were opening at twice the rate of US population growth.

As suburbia sputters toward its demise over the next quarter century or so, I wonder what’s going to happen to all these places? Will they be torn down? Left abandoned to decay and collapse, a sad and visible reminder of the death of the post-WWII American Dream?

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freetoken  Jul 16, 2017 • 12:24:46am

re: #29 Dr Lizardo

Some places will be tore down.

Regarding the growth of malls faster than the population - that may have been true at one time, but I don’t know if what is included in such claim are the small strip-mall construction.

Regardless, commerce happens where people live. Unless one has a growing population there is no need for building new malls.

It’s going to be a long road ahead, deconverting from the idea of suburbia. Right now gasoline prices are held low because the price does not include environmental costs, nor planning for the eventually needed (because of limited resource of quality hydrocarbons) replacement. As this century wears on, the constant problem for this nation will be reconciling our low-density housing ideals/aspirations with rising energy costs.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 12:40:49am

re: #30 freetoken

This is an aerial view of my neighborhood. You’ll notice it’s largely high-rise residential/mixed use buildings. All of it interconnected to an urban rail system; the areas not connected by urban rail are served by buses. Though it’s hard to see, there are three supermarkets, all within walking distance of where I live. There’s a shopping mall as well, though not seen in the photo, and when I’m feeling ambitious, it’s about a 20-minute walk.

This would be considered suburbia in this part of the world.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 12:42:14am

re: #31 Dr Lizardo

This is an aerial view of my neighborhood. You’ll notice it’s largely high-rise residential/mixed use buildings. All of it interconnected to an urban rail system; the areas not connected by urban rail are served by buses. Though it’s hard to see, there are three supermarkets, all within walking distance of where I live. There’s a shopping mall as well, though not seen in the photo, and when I’m feeling ambitious, it’s about a 20-minute walk.

This would be considered suburbia in this part of the world.

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2017 • 1:19:29am

re: #29 Dr Lizardo

I read somewhere, I’ve forgotten where now, that there’s basically a glut of suburban shopping malls; malls were opening at twice the rate of US population growth.

As suburbia sputters toward its demise over the next quarter century or so, I wonder what’s going to happen to all these places? Will they be torn down? Left abandoned to decay and collapse, a sad and visible reminder of the death of the post-WWII American Dream?

Redeveloped into mixed-use complexes; a couple hundred apartments, some office space, a supermarket, a restaurant or two, a swimming pool and gym…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 1:32:01am

re: #33 sagehen

Redeveloped into mixed-use complexes; a couple hundred apartments, some office space, a supermarket, a restaurant or two, a swimming pool and gym…

I recall one place in the Stockholm suburb of Sundbyberg - really cool. A high-rise apartment building; nothing unusual about that. But inside…..wow.

On the ground floor, inside, there was a supermarket, a bank branch, a post office branch, a couple of little speciality stores, and best of all - a direct connection to the Stockholm subway system. The stop was literally under the building.

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freetoken  Jul 16, 2017 • 1:34:39am

Joe the Idiot Plumber is pushing this old fake story:

Hobby Lobby Just Announced Plan To Close ALL Stores - Founder Reveals The Alarming Reason Why…!

It was posted yesterday by on Joe’s site. Look at all the comments he gets by his marks not knowing it’s all lies.

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freetoken  Jul 16, 2017 • 2:16:01am

Our society is filled with people in active denial of reality. They are willing partakers in frauds, hoaxes, and misdirection.

Like audience members who go to magic shows, they want to be fooled.

This has to be the central issue for anyone who wants to tackle the serious problems of our day.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 16, 2017 • 2:38:33am

re: #36 freetoken

A prime example: Lubbock’s “Mr. Conservative” fell for this old hoax when a simple internet search would have shown it’s a fake.

Facebook Post

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freetoken  Jul 16, 2017 • 2:46:23am

Regarding the connection between the Jesus-gullible and Donald Trump, in the Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus , Anthony Le Donne of United Theological Seminary wrote a short article:

Fake News and the Jesus Historian

This article surveys a cultural phenomenon in American popular media that complicates how the historical Jesus is received: fake news. It suggests that fake Jesus news relates to the problems we face in Donald Trump-related political discourse. Moreover, the present political climate will make it even more difficult for professional historians to be heard and trusted by the general public.

I’m not going to pay $30 to read the article, though it probably has some value, because anyone who’s spent some time with these issues knows the nature of the problem.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2017 • 3:20:07am

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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2017 • 3:47:13am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 3:58:29am

re: #40 Dave In Austin

LOL Hillary lives in his head!

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Timothy Watson  Jul 16, 2017 • 3:59:18am

re: #41 Dr Lizardo

LOL Hillary lives in his head!

Rent free, which must really piss him off.

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freetoken  Jul 16, 2017 • 4:00:21am

re: #41 Dr Lizardo

Dude is really fixated.

But he knows his marks will fall for stuff like this, so it’s his go-to answer.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 4:01:16am

re: #43 freetoken

Dude is really fixated.

But he knows his marks will fall for stuff like this, so it’s his go-to answer.

They’re just as fixated as he is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 4:10:06am

re: #30 freetoken

Some places will be tore down.

Regarding the growth of malls faster than the population - that may have been true at one time, but I don’t know if what is included in such claim are the small strip-mall construction.

Regardless, commerce happens where people live. Unless one has a growing population there is no need for building new malls.

It’s going to be a long road ahead, deconverting from the idea of suburbia. Right now gasoline prices are held low because the price does not include environmental costs,…

nor does it include the military cost of securing supply sources in unstable, politically and socially backwards parts of the world.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 4:12:31am

So yesterday, the city transport company ran one of their old electric trolleybuses around town. I took a trip on it. Pretty cool. It’s an old one, from 1958. The story on this one is that it was recovered from a scrapyard in 1995 and fully restored to original condition.

Noisy, but quite fun.

Here’s a photo gallery: moravskoslezsky.denik.cz

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 4:13:13am

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

So yesterday, the city transport company ran one of their old electric trolleybuses around town. I took a trip on it. Pretty cool. It’s an old one, from 1958. The story on this one is that it was recovered from a scrapyard in 1995 and fully restored to original condition.

Noisy, but quite fun.

Here’s a photo gallery: moravskoslezsky.denik.cz

the Moscow trams were built in the Czech Republic

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2017 • 4:13:13am

re: #22 goddamnedfrank

What disaster? They’ve since taken over full control of D.C.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 4:15:14am

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

nor does it include the military cost of securing supply sources in unstable, politically and socially backwards parts of the world.

Sadly, it’ll probably keep going until well past what should be its logical end. Too much invested and too much unwillingness to change or think outside the box.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 4:16:17am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the Moscow trams were built in the Czech Republic

Yep; Škoda trams are used around the world. Even in Portland, OR.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 4:17:02am

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

Sadly, it’ll probably keep going until well past what should be its logical end. Too much invested and too much unwillingness to change or think outside the box.

People still measure wealth and prosperity in terms of how many resources we consume, not how well or efficiently we consume them…

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ozharas  Jul 16, 2017 • 4:22:14am

Foreign Minister Bishop, on Trumps creepy and repulsive assessment of Macron’s wife.

google.com.au

Ms Bishop said she would be “taken aback” if Mr Trump said something similar to her.

“It’s a rather interesting comment to make. I wonder if she could say the same of him?” Ms Bishop told the ABC’s Insiders program.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2017 • 5:02:35am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Trump’s already up and running his tweet off. A bunch of nonsensical ravings all designed to whip his supporters into a frothy mix of ignorance, anger, and dumbassery.

Why?

Well, Trump’s going on about how everything is fake news and that all the stories about his campaign/admin ties/links/meetings with Russians is bogus.

In other words, he’s treating Donny Jr. as fake news. Junior admitted to meeting with the Russians in a meeting with the express intent to get dirt on Clinton from Russian sources.

So, of course Trump supporters believe that this was a setup (which would still be a crime for those who are paying attention - since Trump, Manafort, and Kushner still took the affirmative step of carrying out this meeting, because they didn’t care about anything but getting dirt on Clinton from the Russians).

Meanwhile, Trump’s again at one of his golf courses and plying his businesses in near daily Emoluments Clause violations.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 5:16:19am

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 5:19:24am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 5:20:11am
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2017 • 5:25:30am

re: #52 ozharas

abcnews.go.com

“It’s a rather interesting comment to make. I wonder if she could say the same of him?” Ms Bishop told the ABC’s Insiders program.

No because Trump is neither in good shape or beautiful. /s

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2017 • 5:42:34am

re: #24 teleskiguy

Seriously, folks.

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And it wasn’t until the 1930’s helmets became mandatory…

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 5:51:22am
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harlequinade  Jul 16, 2017 • 5:58:39am

Good {timezone appropriate greeting}

Can people weigh in on these 2:
Does Mitch have 50 votes already, which is why he has to delay while McCain is recovering?

And does the fact that must of that miserable shower have lied to federal authorities and are all fine set a legal precedent? Or is this an IOKIYR

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 5:59:55am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 6:01:59am

re: #60 harlequinade

Good

Can people weigh in on these 2:
Does Mitch have 50 votes already, which is why he has to delay while McCain is recovering?

And does the fact that must of that miserable shower have lied to federal authorities and are all fine set a legal precedent? Or is this an IOKIYR

I don’t think they have 50 votes yet.
Delaying vote for McCain gives them cover, since they promised a vote this coming week,

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2017 • 6:07:05am

re: #62 FormerDirtDart

And by the time they schedule the vote for next week, the CBO should have scored Trump Care which probably won’t be helpful to McConnell’s case.

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jeffreyw  Jul 16, 2017 • 6:07:19am

Imgur


Good morning!

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harlequinade  Jul 16, 2017 • 6:14:33am

re: #63 Patricia Kayden

Ahhhhh. Yes, CBO.

It just seemed… mathematically convenient. All votes are now Reality TV with “the excitement of 50 votes and a heroic VP casting their all important vote” so, without McCain he can’t have that 50.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 16, 2017 • 6:24:52am

re: #59 FormerDirtDart

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This is just bullshit. The Sunday shows have favored Republicans since at least the build up to Iraq invasion.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2017 • 6:29:09am

How can you tell they’re in desperation mode? They’re talking about Clinton. That’s going to screw them.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 6:41:11am

re: #66 Barefoot Grin

This is just bullshit. The Sunday shows have favored Republicans since at least the build up to Iraq invasion.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2017 • 6:45:01am

I watched the Power Rangers movie last night. It was pretty good, though it was obviously designed to set up sequels. It’s more serious than the original stuff, think Buffy the Vampire Slayer series vs the original movie. There were a few plot holes that even I noticed, but overall not bad. It was the Breakfast Club for new superheroes.

What is neat is that the Blue Ranger, the black guy, is autistic. And he’s both the heart and brains of the group. The only stereotyping in the character is that he’s the mathematical one. And the closest thing to comedy is his mom’s reaction when first Jason, the Red Ranger, shows up at the house, and at the end, when all of the rest of them show up: He’s never had friends over because he’s never really had people who would be his friends.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 6:52:01am
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:07:19am

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

This made me laugh:

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:08:12am
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:12:01am

re: #72 MsJ

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“But we just wanted to show how he turned from his bad ways.”

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nines09  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:15:55am

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

Cool. We called them trackless trolleys when I was a kid in Philly. That trolley is a RT 50 which ran right outside my house on 5th street in North Philly.

Trolley and trackless trolley Philadelphia 1960’s
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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:21:24am

re: #74 nines09

Cool. We called them trackless trolleys when I was a kid in Philly. That trolley is a RT 50 which ran right outside my house on 5th street in North Philly.

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The tracked electric is the “modern” streetcar of the type used by Pittsburgh Railways until they went all-bus. IIRC they were made by the St. Louis Car Co. A 15-cent fare with free transfers could get you across the city in any direction. And it was a “steetcar”. “Trolleys” were effete New England affectations.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:21:31am

re: #63 Patricia Kayden

And by the time they schedule the vote for next week, the CBO should have scored Trump Care which probably won’t be helpful to McConnell’s case.

Trump already called the CBO scoring fake news - preemptively.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:21:40am

re: #74 nines09

And some of them still run today. Actually right now SEPTA is finishing up its “Trolley Blitz.” They will be running tomorrow.
septa.org

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:22:55am

RIP Julius. :((((

marylandzoo.org

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nines09  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:27:57am

re: #75 Decatur Deb

Effete New England what? It’s a fucking trolley. Go to Philly. Ask someone what they call it.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:29:15am

re: #79 nines09

Effete New England what? It’s a fucking trolley. Go to Philly. Ask someone what they call it.

Philly is New England enough. Pittsburgh is the Wild West.

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nines09  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:29:40am

re: #77 PhillyPretzel

Yes. They ripped out a lot of tracks throughout north Philly. Bus now. It was a photo in time.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:30:50am

re: #79 nines09

lol. Just remember what Philadelphians call a “hoagie” goes by the names of “sub” or even in New Orleans “po’ boy.”

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nines09  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:31:53am

re: #80 Decatur Deb

I don’t think you really know Philly. No disrespect. As different as night and day. Pittsburgh today is as different from what is was as you could get. Both have changed immensely. But Philly like New England? Ok. Sure.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:31:55am

re: #82 PhillyPretzel

lol. Just remember what Philadelphians call a “hoagie” goes by the names of “sub” or even in New Orleans “po’ boy.”

A hero by any other name …

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:33:17am

re: #82 PhillyPretzel

lol. Just remember what Philadelphians call a “hoagie” goes by the names of “sub” or even in New Orleans “po’ boy.”

In ’50s PGH, that was usually a “submarine” or “hero” (gyro). The Subway franchise has probably made ‘sub’ more uniform.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:35:49am

re: #75 Decatur Deb

The tracked electric is the “modern” streetcar of the type used by Pittsburgh Railways until they went all-bus. IIRC they were made by the St. Louis Car Co. A 15-cent fare with free transfers could get you across the city in any direction. And it was a “steetcar”. “Trolleys” were effete New England affectations.

Heh; here it’s just tramvaj (pronounced “trahm-veye”]

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:36:44am

re: #83 nines09

I don’t think you really know Philly. No disrespect. As different as night and day. Pittsburgh today is as different from what is was as you could get. Both have changed immensely. But Philly like New England? Ok. Sure.

Philly is what you go through to get to NYC. Actually, think of the cultural and historical orientation. A colonial Philadelphian was going to going to get his stuff and his ideas from NY and Boston. Pittsburgh still had walls and blockhouses.

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nines09  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:36:45am

re: #84 wheat-dogg

It’s much more homogenized and talked about on foodie shows on TV. Just about everyone knows what a hoagie is now. BUT….stay away from “steak and cheese” sandwiches…..and if they advertise it as a Philly “steak and cheese”, run…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:38:13am

re: #86 Dr Lizardo

Heh; here it’s just tramvaj (pronounced “trahm-veye”]

I remember a bunch of the St Louis cars from Pittsburgh Railways ended their days in Eastern Europe.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:40:21am

re: #88 nines09

It’s much more homogenized and talked about on foodie shows on TV. Just about everyone knows what a hoagie is now. BUT….stay away from “steak and cheese” sandwiches…..and if they advertise it as a Philly “steak and cheese”, run…

On my last big Greyhound pilgrimage I got a very good Philly cheesesteak in the bus station in Baltimore, made by a nice lady from Atmore AL.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:42:59am

re: #72 MsJ

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Hero.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:44:03am

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Hero.

γύρο.

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nines09  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:45:11am

re: #90 Decatur Deb

You can get great cheesesteaks in and around Baltimore.

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nines09  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:46:17am

Off to get groceries. Now I want a cheese steak. With.

Dover Delaware spot. Notice “hoagie roll”….

Glasgow Deli

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:49:17am

re: #89 Decatur Deb

I remember a bunch of the St Louis cars from Pittsburgh Railways ended their days in Eastern Europe.

As a note to trams, they are making a resurgence in Stockholm after decades of absence, both in the form of light rail with mostly separated track, and lines running together with traffic. We have 4 distinct lines (Lidingöbanan (21), Nockebybanan (12), Tvärbanan (22), Citylinjen (7)) and there is talk of at least one other line and conversion of an existing line, as well as extensions of existing lines.

Having lived in a Town with trams (Gothenburg), I can understand some of the issues with that form of mass transit, but it has its positive sides too.

Edit: For reference - Trams in Stockholm (Wikipedia)

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:50:15am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

In ’50s PGH, that was usually a “submarine” or “hero” (gyro). The Subway franchise has probably made ‘sub’ more uniform.

Yep, in the 70’s we had a sandwich shop called The Submarine Construction Company (in my hometown north of Pittsburgh). And that is what they made, submarine sandwiches.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:51:46am

Not a sandwich but the salad I had in Johnstown aptly called the Pittsburgher had french fries in it.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:53:10am

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Not a sandwich but the salad I had in Johnstown aptly called the Pittsburgher had french fries in it.

That’s a Primanti Bros. thing.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:53:33am

re: #95 Teukka

As a note to trams, they are making a resurgence in Stockholm after decades of absence, both in the form of light rail with mostly separated track, and lines running together with traffic. We have 4 distinct lines (Lidingöbanan (21), Nockebybanan (12), Tvärbanan (22), Citylinjen (7)) and there is talk of at least one other line and conversion of an existing line, as well as extensions of existing lines.

Having lived in a Town with trams (Gothenburg), I can understand some of the issues with that form of mass transit, but it has its positive sides too.

NPR had a long discussion on railed surface transit a couple years ago. The city planner interviewed linked their demise to the rapid rate of change in dwelling patterns. It just cost a lot more to install and tear up track, thus a fatal inflexibility.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:55:21am

re: #98 Eventual Carrion

That’s a Primanti Bros. thing.

Re-gentrified Lawrenceville neighborhood, no?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:55:32am

re: #98 Eventual Carrion

That’s a Primanti Bros. thing.

Yep. The salad itself though kind of reminded me of my favorite Peruvian dish- Lomo Saltado though since it had steak in it too.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:56:11am

re: #100 Decatur Deb

Re-gentrified Lawrenceville neighborhood, no?

My Joyce relatives are buried in Lawrenceville.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:57:30am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

My Joyce relatives are buried in Lawrenceville.

Our Capuchin province HQ was there—St. Anthony’s.

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:58:08am

re: #99 Decatur Deb

NPR had a long discussion on railed surface transit a couple years ago. The city planner interviewed linked their demise to the rapid rate of change in dwelling patterns. It just cost a lot more to install and tear up track, thus a fatal inflexibility.

Yes. But some of the concepts of trams can be applied to dual-mode vehicles, such as guided buses or vans. And I think that the cost of constructing guideways for such is a lot cheaper than proper rail.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2017 • 7:58:25am

re: #103 Decatur Deb

Our Capuchin province HQ was there—St. Anthony’s.

I really do need to explore more of Pittsburgh. Planning on doing the same trip I did yesterday but with my Dad to the Burgh.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:00:45am

re: #104 Teukka

Yes. But some of the concepts of trams can be applied to dual-mode vehicles, such as guided buses or vans. And I think that the cost of constructing guideways for such is a lot cheaper than proper rail.

Yes—he said that could be as simple as overnight coding, and public information, of course.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:01:34am

re: #100 Decatur Deb

Re-gentrified Lawrenceville neighborhood, no?

Yeah, Lawrenceville/Strip district. They have opened like 5-6 other restaurants farther up this way and just over the border in Ohio.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:01:38am

re: #105 HappyWarrior

I really do need to explore more of Pittsburgh. Planning on doing the same trip I did yesterday but with my Dad to the Burgh.

Going to get the 7-yr old grandkid to Kennywood next year.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:02:35am

re: #108 Decatur Deb

Going to get the 7-yr old grandkid to Kennywood next year.

That’ll be fun.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:04:11am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

That’ll be fun.

Now that they’ve been sold, they’ve prohibited “large” picnic baskets. Bringing a case of beer for Dad must have disappeared years ago.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:06:16am

re: #59 FormerDirtDart

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When Democrats ran the government, Rs still dominated Sunday morning talk shows. What is Barro smoking?

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:07:20am

re: #106 Decatur Deb

Yes—he said that could be as simple as overnight coding, and public information, of course.

Also, conversion of vehicles for use on such guideways isn’t that expensive, so the transit authority could have an extra revenue stream selling access to them, as well as the environmental impact of letting some courier, cab and delivery services use the guideways.

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BigPapa  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:08:32am

Watching Meet The Chuck try and badger Sekulow who is somewhat docile this AM.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:09:51am

re: #72 MsJ

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Why is ex-con even something that we need to know about this gentleman? How is it relevant to his heroism? What the hell, CBSNews?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:09:51am

re: #112 Teukka

Also, conversion of vehicles for use on such guideways isn’t that expensive, so the transit authority could have an extra revenue stream selling access to them, as well as the environmental impact of letting some courier, cab and delivery services use the guideways.

No rolling coal. Sounds commie.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:12:46am

re: #113 BigPapa

Watching Meet The Chuck try and badger Sekulow who is somewhat docile this AM.

Joy Reid is dropping knowledge on MSNBC’s A.M. Joy. There isn’t enough Xanax in the world to make me watch an entire show consisting of Chucky Toad asking softball questions of Trump apologists.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:12:49am

re: #114 Patricia Kayden

Why is ex-con even something that we need to know about this gentleman? How is it relevant to his heroism? What the hell, CBSNews?

Putting a good face on it, the (very recent) ex-con angle introduces redemption and especially self-sacrifice into the story. He risked a hard-to-get job.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:14:12am

re: #111 Patricia Kayden

When Democrats ran the government, Rs still dominated Sunday morning talk shows. What is Barro smoking?

That was my thought.

When Democrats are in power: we must show Republicans to keep balance.

When Republicans are in power: we must show Republicans because they are in charge.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:14:21am

EL OH EL

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:15:58am

re: #118 Belafon

That was my thought.

When Democrats are in power: we must show Republicans to keep balance.

When Republicans are in power: we must show Republicans because they are in charge.

We saw almost nothing of Hillary except her reactions to e-mail problems and her baskets of deplorables. While she was giving speeches on improving employment opportunities for handicapped, networks were showing an empty podium waiting for DT to appear…

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jeffreyw  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:17:01am

re: #88 nines09

It’s much more homogenized and talked about on foodie shows on TV. Just about everyone knows what a hoagie is now. BUT….stay away from “steak and cheese” sandwiches…..and if they advertise it as a Philly “steak and cheese”, run…

‘scuse me?!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:21:06am

Off to start the First Fire ceremony for another wood-fired pizza oven experiment. The kids got it for my birthday a while back, though cynicism suggests ulterior motives.

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BigPapa  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:23:39am

re: #122 Decatur Deb

It’s a ploy to steal your beer.

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mmmirele  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:24:44am

re: #20 JordanRules

Excited!!

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Agh! I watched it twice, and I was like, THIS IS NOT THE BOOK I READ AS A GIRL. Which was in the 1960s.

It looks like the people styling the movie emptied out the contents of Disney’s wardrobe onto Mrs. Who, Mrs. Whatsit and Mrs. Which. That’s not the Mrs. Whatsit I knew, the one who stole a dozen bedsheets off a neighbor lady’s clothesline. Could they not find a tall, skinny, red-headed, freckled 14 YO ish boy to play Calvin O’Keefe?

On the other hand, I have to give them absolute props for the chilling recreation of the neighborhood on Camazotz. The rest of it…NOPE.

Now I will go off and yell at kids on my lawn.

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Unabogie  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:26:10am

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹

A doctor takes apart in eight minutes the fauxumetary “What the Health.” It is a condensation of every quack idea out there, including some guy who sells a book and is apparently trying to kill diabetics.

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I’m vegan, and I’m part of what you might call “vegan skeptics”, who are people who adopt a vegan diet for ethical reasons but are horrified at the pseudoscience that gets promoted around it. IMO, documentaries like this only hurt the cause because it invites people to mock veganism over things not actually related to veganism.

IMO, people should go vegan because:
1. It’s undeniably better for the environment
2. In a modern society, when people can get everything they need from a plant based diet, it’s unethical to harm animals for food and clothing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:26:17am

re: #124 mmmirele

Agh! I watched it twice, and I was like, THIS IS NOT THE BOOK I READ AS A GIRL. Which was in the 1960s.

It looks like the people styling the movie emptied out the contents of Disney’s wardrobe onto Mrs. Who, Mrs. Whatsit and Mrs. Which. That’s not the Mrs. Whatsit I knew, the one who stole a dozen bedsheets off a neighbor lady’s clothesline. Could they not find a tall, skinny, red-headed, freckled 14 YO ish boy to play Calvin O’Keefe?

On the other hand, I have to give them absolute props for the chilling recreation of the neighborhood on Camazotz. The rest of it…NOPE.

Now I will go off and yell at kids on my lawn.

I recall reading that as well…I will not bother with the Disneyfied version…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:26:52am

re: #123 BigPapa

It’s a ploy to steal your beer.

Little oven is from Mexico, so I laid in a lot of Dos Equis for the ritual.

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BigPapa  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:28:36am

I was on a home brew binge just before I flew the coop. I could tell how good the batch was by how many dad was stealing. Two a day Dad Tax meant a good batch.

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jeffreyw  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:31:41am

Miss Bea has OD’d on catnip. I warned Mrs J that this would happen.

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Archangelus  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:31:45am

Soooooo, after having fans go mad with anticipation after teasing an announcement at the end of today’s Wimbledon final (which, as usual, seemed to go on forever), the BBC just released this…. countdown to the entirety of the internet exploding in 3..2…1…

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:32:05am

re: #124 mmmirele

I’m excited to see Ava’s version but I get your nostalgia disappointment.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:32:17am

Making a Pizza:

Step 1. Oil and tighten your chainsaw blade….

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plansbandc  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:32:30am

re: #130 Archangelus

I am extremely pleased.

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BigPapa  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:35:22am

Discuss.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:37:41am

Jodie Whittaker is the new Doctor.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:41:11am

re: #135 Belafon

Jodie Whittaker is the new Doctor.

It’s going to be fun watching people react to this news.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:41:51am

re: #114 Patricia Kayden

Why is ex-con even something that we need to know about this gentleman? How is it relevant to his heroism? What the hell, CBSNews?

You don’t. At all. That was unnecessary, inflammatory and did nothing but detract from what he did.

I wonder if this is a Sinclair outfit. If they do that to DeRay why not every other POC?

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:43:32am

re: #136 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s going to be fun watching people react to this news.

Tyvek suit, flak jacket and helmet? Some people are going to seriously flip their lids.

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Mattand  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:44:12am

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹

A doctor takes apart in eight minutes the fauxumetary “What the Health.” It is a condensation of every quack idea out there, including some guy who sells a book and is apparently trying to kill diabetics.

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The doc who runs the Skeptic’s Guide to the Universe podcast took part in it five years ago; that’s how long that thing has been rotting in production. He commented that the person who interviewed him basically was looking for anyone to confirm that homeopathy works.

It really does sound like a steaming pile of trash.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:44:21am

re: #72 MsJ

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They’ve changed the headline text on the story, but the original headline survives in the URL as “ex-prisoner-skips-job-interview-jumps-off-bus-to-rescue-car-crash-victim”.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:45:07am

re: #138 Teukka

Tyvek suit, flak jacket and helmet? Some people are going to seriously flip their lids.

I’m ready.

‘Cuz some folks are gonna lose their shit, that’s why.
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Teukka  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:45:49am

re: #141 Dr Lizardo

I’m ready.

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Perfect :D

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:46:50am

re: #130 Archangelus

re: #135 Belafon

She’s dying her hair blond. I think they missed an opportunity to finally make the Doctor ginger…lol

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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:47:37am

re: #75 Decatur Deb

The tracked electric is the “modern” streetcar of the type used by Pittsburgh Railways until they went all-bus. IIRC they were made by the St. Louis Car Co. A 15-cent fare with free transfers could get you across the city in any direction. And it was a “steetcar”. “Trolleys” were effete New England affectations.

I grew up in Mass. and we called them streetcars.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:48:01am

Thread

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Archangelus  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:48:15am

re: #138 Teukka

Tyvek suit, flak jacket and helmet? Some people are going to seriously flip their lids.

“Going to?” Lids are already being flipped half-way to stellar orbit..

Me, i’m not really that surprised, if only because it’s been hinted at in a not-so-subtle fashion throughout the past season IMHO. While i’ve no idea who the actor is, that was the same with Matt Smith and he rocked the role. No, my concern is with the writing for the character, especially since we don’t entirely know what to expect with the Moff’s departure….

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Mattand  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:50:30am

So, saw this lovely little piece about Matt Tiabbi over at Pharyngula a few minutes ago. Serious rape trigger warnings on this.

As I said in my comment there, I was sort of aware that Tiabbi had a party animal reputation prior to becoming Rolling Stone’s political go-to guy and leading purveyor of Magic Balance Fairy horse shit. But nothing this horrible.

I’d been laying off of Tiabbi for a while because of the MBF crap, but this probably cements the deal.

As I also commented: I first heard of Tiabbi through Bill Maher, who probably loves him for the MBF crap. I fully expect Maher to extend an invite to Tiabbi so that Maher can tell him didn’t do anything wrong, and it’s all just boys being boys. Ugh.

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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:51:15am

re: #116 Patricia Kayden

Joy Reid is dropping knowledge on MSNBC’s A.M. Joy. There isn’t enough Xanax in the world to make me watch an entire show consisting of Chucky Toad asking softball questions of Trump apologists.

I avoided them all and watched Roger Federer win Wimbledon. Much more rewarding.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:53:41am

re: #125 Unabogie

I’m vegan, and I’m part of what you might call “vegan skeptics”, who are people who adopt a vegan diet for ethical reasons but are horrified at the pseudoscience that gets promoted around it. IMO, documentaries like this only hurt the cause because it invites people to mock veganism over things not actually related to veganism.

IMO, people should go vegan because:
1. It’s undeniably better for the environment
2. In a modern society, when people can get everything they need from a plant based diet, it’s unethical to harm animals for food and clothing.

Well, that goes back to the old joke, “How do you know someone is a vegan? They’ll tell you.”

What’s undeniably bad for the environment is trucking or shipping vegetables all over the planet. You know what we can grow around here? Cattle, chickens, sheep, corn, and wheat.

If you’re “thinking globally but acting locally” you know what you buy to eat here? Beef, chicken, mutton or lamb, corn, and wheat.

I’ve been in a running argument with a moonbat vegan on another site now for four days who is trying to convince me (a city water operator) that the reason there is no Vitamin B-12 in water is because chlorination by cities kills it.

(For the record, B-12 grows in the gut bacteria of ruminants, and certain algae that is not found on this continent. You can get it from grass that has cow pies in it. It is not recommended to eat cow pies, though I’ll bet there’s a moonbat out there who thinks that’s fine. It is not found in water except water with dead animals in it, chlorine does not destroy B-12, cities are not required to chlorinate water unless they have contamination in their water supplies, and homeowners with wells are not required to chlorinate water ever.)

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Mattand  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:54:01am

re: #141 Dr Lizardo

I’m ready.

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I’m gonna get one that looks like this:

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Alephnaught  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:54:59am

Heh, given the flipping of lids already about this, goodness knows what the usual RWNJs are going to be like: (Once they find out what Doctor Who is anyway.)

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Mattand  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:57:25am

re: #130 Archangelus

Soooooo, after having fans go mad with anticipation after teasing an announcement at the end of today’s Wimbledon final (which, as usual, seemed to go on forever), the BBC just released this…. countdown to the entirety of the internet exploding in 3..2…1…

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I’m not a Dr. Who fan, but I look forward to the deluge of tears from Gamergate and MRA shitheels.

It will be glorious…

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:57:33am

re: #140 Timothy Watson

They’ve changed the headline text on the story, but the original headline survives in the URL as “ex-prisoner-skips-job-interview-jumps-off-bus-to-rescue-car-crash-victim”.

I get why they took this slant but it’s still fucked up. And this poor guy will be in the spotlight now forever. He’ll always be the ex-con who continues to make good or falls back into his old ways.

I just think it’s fucked up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:57:57am

re: #125 Unabogie

I’m vegan, and I’m part of what you might call “vegan skeptics”, who are people who adopt a vegan diet for ethical reasons but are horrified at the pseudoscience that gets promoted around it. IMO, documentaries like this only hurt the cause because it invites people to mock veganism over things not actually related to veganism.

IMO, people should go vegan because:
1. It’s undeniably better for the environment
2. In a modern society, when people can get everything they need from a plant based diet, it’s unethical to harm animals for food and clothing.

Michael Pollan, in The Omnivore’s Dilemma, points out that it is entirely possible to raise animals for milk, eggs and even meat in a humane way, but that is not at all compatible with our factory farming and food-processing methods.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:58:23am

re: #134 BigPapa

Discuss.

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Too Drunk to Fuck by the Dead Kennedys didn’t make the cut. I disappoint.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2017 • 8:59:21am

re: #152 Mattand

I’m not a Dr. Who fan, but I look forward to the deluge of tears from Gamergate and MRA shitheels.

It will be glorious…

I am a Doctor Who fan. Allowing myself one hour of schadenfreude right there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:00:31am

re: #156 Unshaken Defiance

I am a Doctor Who fan. Allowing myself one hour of schadenfreude right there.

We used to big into anything British, from pop music to TV, and I would run around in a nine-foot scarf like Tom Morton’s Doctor.

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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:01:47am

re: #153 MsJ

I get why they took this slant but it’s still fucked up. And this poor guy will be in the spotlight now forever. He’ll always be the ex-con who continues to make good or falls back into his old ways.

I just think it’s fucked up.

I agree that the headline sucks, but the response to his act of bravery has been great. Last time I looked (last night) a gofundme account had already raised $28,000 for him and he’d been offered several jobs as well as a suit for job interviews and other stuff.

From the interviews I’ve seen, he sounds like a great guy and a perfect example of how rehabilitation can work in prison.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:03:42am

re: #157 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We used to big into anything British, from pop music to TV, and I would run around in a nine-foot scarf like Tom Morton’s Doctor.

Did you mean Baker?

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:04:23am

re: #156 Unshaken Defiance

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:04:31am

re: #159 Belafon

Did you mean Baker?

The scarfy one, yes…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:05:27am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Michael Pollan, in The Omnivore’s Dilemma, points out that it is entirely possible to raise animals for milk, eggs and even meat in a humane way, but that is not at all compatible with our factory farming and food-processing methods.

The other half of that dilemma is doing it if you live in a townhouse or an apartment. The overwhelming majority of people in the USA now live in cities, and the number of them you could count that can do those things is vanishingly small. You can’t raise crops either, so you have to truck or ship all your food in (with the attendant pollution from trains, trucks, and ships all burning oil, which hardcore vegetarians and vegans all seem to gloss over when they argue “it’s good for the planet”).

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:07:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:07:37am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹

There are even humane and natural ways to do things on a larger scale, but not in the industrial scale that we are used to in order to guarantee us super cheap prices for all the foodstuffs that are not necessarily good for us in large amounts…

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Archangelus  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:08:43am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:09:16am

re: #152 Mattand

I’m not a Dr. Who fan, but I look forward to the deluge of tears from Gamergate and MRA shitheels.

It will be glorious…

Alephnaught’s Twitter thread in #151 has some tears for you, but the response seems to be mostly positive.

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:14:04am

re: #121 jeffreyw

‘scuse me?!

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That’s not a Philly cheesesteak. That’s a New York steak sandwich.

(A Philly is very thin slices of steak, fried up together with the cheese and onions. A New York is cook the steak first, cut it in thick slices, and put the cheese and onions on top.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:14:56am

re: #167 sagehen

That’s not a Philly cheesesteak. That’s a New York steak sandwich.

(A Philly is very thin slices of steak, fried up together with the cheese and onions. A New York is cook the steak first, cut it in thick slices, and put the cheese and onions on top.)

good thing I got some chimichurri chicken on the grill, or this discussion would be getting me rather annoyed!!!

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:15:36am

re: #158 BeachDem

I agree that the headline sucks, but the response to his act of bravery has been great. Last time I looked (last night) a gofundme account had already raised $28,000 for him and he’d been offered several jobs as well as a suit for job interviews and other stuff.

From the interviews I’ve seen, he sounds like a great guy and a perfect example of how rehabilitation can work in prison.

I have to disagree with the last part. His “rehabilitation” was internal… It came from hearing his son’s first cries. To me that’s internal (inherent) to the man himself. We don’t know what he did (he could have been in jail for anything from unpaid parking tickets to murder…but I’m betting it’s more towards the former than the latter), but I doubt prison in and if itself had anything to do with his “rehabilitation”.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:15:53am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are even humane and natural ways to do things on a larger scale, but not in the industrial scale that we are used to in order to guarantee us super cheap prices for all the foodstuffs that are not necessarily good for us in large amounts…

True enough. I don’t mistreat my chickens, for example. No one around here that has cattle or chickens mistreats the animals as far as I’m aware - if you are raising them either for your own food or to sell, mistreating them gives you less food or money.

I certainly can’t grow enough vegetables on my village lot to feed just my wife and me for a whole year (even though we can an awful lot of stuff we grow or buy locally). Moreover, I have to water them, because I live in an arid area. I’m betting however my lot is way bigger than the lot of someone who lives in an apartment in Philadelphia or Cleveland.

Back when the Homestead Act was a big thing and lots of people were moving out west to take advantage of it, it turns out you need about a whole section (square mile) of land to grow enough food to feed your family for a year if you have children.

One of the benefits of modern farming methods is we aren’t putting everyone’s children in the fields at the expense of education. I suppose we could go back to some mystical day where everyone is growing their own food and are all happy and healthy from great food choices (except none of that was true).

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Semper Fi  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:17:13am

re: #163 FormerDirtDart

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The campaign will begin as soon as Ivanka’s shipment clears customs.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:17:24am

re: #121 jeffreyw

re: #167 sagehen

This cooks magazine has a good recipe for a Philly cheese steak. Also if you want to you do not have to have cheese in it.

cooksillustrated.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:17:30am

Some little girls want to be princesses. Other little girls have……..different priorities.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:17:57am

And, another thread

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:18:16am
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:19:33am

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

Some little girls want to be princesses. Other little girls have……..different priorities.

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A future Doctor.

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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:20:34am

re: #169 MsJ

I have to disagree with the last part. His “rehabilitation” was internal… It came from hearing his son’s first cries. To me that’s internal (inherent) to the man himself. We don’t know what he did (he could have been in jail for anything from unpaid parking tickets to murder…but I’m betting it’s more towards the former than the latter), but I doubt prison in and if itself had anything to do with his “rehabilitation”.

Oh, you’re right about his inner virtues; I was just thinking about the fact that at least he was in a place that offered education as part of the program. (Maybe I’ve been watching too much Orange is the new Black.)

I read that he was in on a weapons charge, but didn’t see any more detail. Two-year sentence, so couldn’t have been anything major.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:20:49am

re: #176 Belafon

A future Doctor.

She’ll be running the Empire one day for sure.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:22:06am

re: #175 Belafon

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:24:32am

re: #179 jaunte

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LOLOL, guys whining about a show that features oversized, genocidal salt and pepper shakers.

just to note, I’m a fan of Dr. Who and I have no problem with the casting of a woman as the titular character

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Mattand  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:24:52am

re: #172 PhillyPretzel

This cooks magazine has a good recipe for a Philly cheese steak. Also if you want to you do not have to have cheese in it.

cooksillustrated.com

LOL, when I got to Jim’s at 4th and South, I usually get a plain steak with mushrooms, giving Philly yet another reason to hate New Jersey.

I am truly history’s greatest monster.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:26:39am

So I wonder: Will this new Doctor have a male companion or…

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:27:06am

re: #179 jaunte

Let’s face it. They’re just confused and panicked by their sudden feeling of lust for the Doctor

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:27:19am

re: #179 jaunte

I bet she’s right.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:28:51am

re: #183 FormerDirtDart

“We fear change. Change is proven to have fatal results, eventually.”

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:29:44am

“No one has ever tried NOT changing anything.”

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:31:29am

The conservative steady-state fantasy.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:32:20am

re: #177 BeachDem

Oh, you’re right about his inner virtues; I was just thinking about the fact that at least he was in a place that offered education as part of the program. (Maybe I’ve been watching too much Orange is the new Black.)

I read that he was in on a weapons charge, but didn’t see any more detail. Two-year sentence, so couldn’t have been anything major.

That I agree with. And they are trying to remove the education part of punishment.

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mmmirele  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:33:31am

There’s a Juggalo March on Washington on Saturday, September 16.

I am not kidding. Juggalo Nation is tired of being tarred as a gang.

theguardian.com

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:34:01am

re: #184 JordanRules

I bet she’s right.

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Which will be like buying Starbucks and having Trump as the name on the cup. “We’ll show them!”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:35:12am

re: #189 mmmirele

There’s a Juggalo March on Washington on Saturday, September 16.

I am not kidding. Juggalo Nation is tired of being tarred as a gang.

theguardian.com

Why are Juggalos classified as a gang? Oddball music fans, to be sure, but a gang?

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:36:20am

Trump now rolling on the Secret Service:

mediaite.com

Sekulow: “I’ve wondered why the Secret Service—if this was nefarious, why’d the Secret Service allow these people in?”

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:37:36am

re: #192 jaunte

Trump now rolling on the Secret Service:

mediaite.com

Sekulow: “I’ve wondered why the Secret Service—if this was nefarious, why’d the Secret Service allow these people in?”

Which means the secret service knows who was at the meeting.

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stpaulbear  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:38:27am

re: #167 sagehen

That’s not a Philly cheesesteak. That’s a New York steak sandwich.

(A Philly is very thin slices of steak, fried up together with the cheese and onions. A New York is cook the steak first, cut it in thick slices, and put the cheese and onions on top.)

I’m still trying to get used to eating for diabetes. I’m finding it pretty easy to keep the carb count down (although it’s still weird to think of fruit and milk as the enemy) and I have no problem eating more veggies (except at breakfast). What I’m really having trouble with is the one serving of protein per meal. It’s 3 oz. meat or 1 oz. cheese or 1 egg or 1 tbs. peanut butter.

Reading about delicious steak and cheese sandwiches this morning is depressing.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:38:47am

Roger Stone out recruiting a TrumperFreikorps.

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plansbandc  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:39:16am

re: #184 JordanRules

And criticize the hell out of everything like Republicans criticize Obama.

How is it possible that the “stronger” sex can be such babies. FFS

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jeffreyw  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:40:32am

re: #167 sagehen

That’s not a Philly cheesesteak. That’s a New York steak sandwich.

(A Philly is very thin slices of steak, fried up together with the cheese and onions. A New York is cook the steak first, cut it in thick slices, and put the cheese and onions on top.)

That “‘scuse me” was a response to:

BUT….stay away from “steak and cheese” sandwiches….

I, however, am not going to let you claim for NY this style of sammich. It is, obviously, a Southern Illinois sammich made from sous vide strip steak, cheese sauce, and giardiniera.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:45:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:48:00am

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

Why are Juggalos classified as a gang? Oddball music fans, to be sure, but a gang?

They are scary and unknown.

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Alephnaught  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:51:38am

In all this Doctor Who “controversy”, Roger Federer winning a historic 8th Wimbledon championship seems to have slipped everyone’s mind.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:53:47am

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹

Moochers looking for free government goodies.
//

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:53:52am

re: #194 stpaulbear

I’m still trying to get used to eating for diabetes. I’m finding it pretty easy to keep the carb count down (although it’s still weird to think of fruit and milk as the enemy) and I have no problem eating more veggies (except at breakfast). What I’m really having trouble with is the one serving of protein per meal. It’s 3 oz. meat or 1 oz. cheese or 1 egg or 1 tbs. peanut butter.

Reading about delicious steak and cheese sandwiches this morning is depressing.

I’ve been eating for diabetes for awhile now (ever since my wife was diagnosed with the disorder about three years ago). I may need to go back to my Navy ways soon of scarfing down a pound bag of peanut M&Ms in one sitting. (Not sure why I never got fat.)

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Birth Control Works  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:54:01am

re: #134 BigPapa

Discuss.

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Dancing Queen by ABBA —really?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:54:04am

re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg

So I wonder: Will this new Doctor have a male companion or…

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nowherenorth2  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:54:39am

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

Unfortunately they are seen as a gang due to areas like I am in, and probably has to do with their rose to prominence when they officially became known in the area.

At the time this happened,The juggaloes here are about 10 percent decent people who love the music and are accepting amazing folks who like what I consider a terrible band. Worked with many while in the fast food business and they are hilarious people and awesome smart.

The other 90 percent actually do multiple misdemeanors at all times, mostly b&e and the sort, and openly use hard drugs.

In a small town like here, there are multiple police forces (village police, county sheriffs, state cops, border patrol, homeland security, along with many others being COs and working for the county enforcement like prisons) so the complaints against the 90 percent went up the ladder. I suspect this happened in many small towns, much like the satanic cults that people used to believe were real in the 80s and 90s

Just little musing on my part my friend

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:55:18am

re: #113 BigPapa

Watching Meet The Chuck try and badger Sekulow who is somewhat docile this AM.

I watched a bit of that. Sekulow was out to try to make it seem like Donny has nothing to do with his kids at all. Nice try.

And John Cornyn is clueless. Chuckles tried to pin him down on having enough of a vote to pass Mitch’s health bill. I found all he had was no answer. They are struggling with it as a lot of Republican governors are making life difficult for them…like Kasich here in Ohio bugging the shit out of Portman.

Guess what Kasuch wants? A bi-partisan redo of the ACA so that they can get a few years out of a deal. It now seems to be what America wants…even conservatives.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:56:09am

need . moar . coffee

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:57:12am

re: #111 Patricia Kayden

When Democrats ran the government, Rs still dominated Sunday morning talk shows. What is Barro smoking?

re: #118 Belafon

That was my thought.

When Democrats are in power: we must show Republicans to keep balance.

When Republicans are in power: we must show Republicans because they are in charge.

Pray for Josh Barro. He is deeply confused.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:57:33am

And if the new Doctor Who is revealed to have a female companion, watch the wingnuts explode again …

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:59:36am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Okay it’s a little amusing. They cultivate this alt hip hop tough guys image. Music, huge events, scary clown cosplay. Then when some are intimidated by this rather deliberate image, well when the FBI calls you a gang and probationers can no longer go to a concert suddenly we have a controversy.

Now the police and FBI have gone ape shit over this allegedly violent gang that has no worse a record than rabid Euro soccer fans. That’s wrong. But also completely unsurprising.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:59:43am

re: #205 nowherenorth2

Unfortunately they are seen as a gang due to areas like I am in, and probably has to do with their rose to prominence when they officially became known in the area.

I am sure that there is a sizable chunk of both right and left-wing radicals who do not really give a shit about the politics, but rather just want some sort of ideological cover for committing acts of violence and like having a movement and a group to identify and associate with.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:01:55am

re: #211 Unshaken Defiance

We had a similar line of discussion about the Occupy people a few years back…everybody seems to have their definition of what “gang member” or “terrorist” means, but what is the legal definition?

To me, Occupy was a group of people sitting in a park.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:03:01am

Jeff Sessions Is Making Reefer Madness Great Again (goes to Wonkette):

Has anyone ever been helped by a high school drug education class in this country? Is there any program out there that has been shown to keep kids off hard drugs? As a child, Your 5$F endured annual visits from Maureen the Drug Lady. Maureen was a 60-year-old recovering alcoholic with a Boston accent you could drive a truck through. She made her living telling high school kids that that they’d end up eating from a dumpster if they sniffed markers. Maureen was especially bothered by the ones that had different smells for each color. Blueberry markers were a gateway drug!

(more at the link)

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:08:23am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹

Jeff Sessions should visit Amsterdam and visit a “coffee shop.”

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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:10:22am

re: #200 Alephnaught

In all this Doctor Who “controversy”, Roger Federer winning a historic 8th Wimbledon championship seems to have slipped everyone’s mind.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:10:56am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s why it was worthwhile to go see for myself in the case of Occupy LA.

Way too arbitrary right? BofA is well connected. When vandalism and large protests hit BofA branches law enforcement did as they were told. To do that they had to paint Occupy in a violent light.

Lesson Not Learned-It appears law enforcement can still declare a group a “gang”, just as easily as the FBI can label a gang “terrorist”. Lesson for the wary-Don’t try to look like bad guys. There have been many concerts with more trouble than the Juggalos. And countless groups more troublesome and violent than Occupy.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:11:08am

As I pointed out in my Predictable Bullshit post, here we see a popular bullshit deflection and redirection tactic in practice: take an outrageous claim (news articles are not facts) and pair it with a strawman (innuendo is not fact).

Knock over the strawman, taking the bullshit claim with it, and launch into still more bullshit (the left has divided the nation, somehow there’s a new math which proves that the minority that still supports Trump is half the country), and use it all to declare that an argument I never made (Trump is bad) wasn’t argued in good faith.
Don’t address the actual substance of the argument (that bullshit is used to deflect and distract from facts unfavorable to the Trump White House), but claim that I said you were stupid.

So that’s a hat trick of bullshit deflection and distraction right there. Well done.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:16:15am
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Alephnaught  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:19:43am

Well, Andy Murray might have not have got to win the Men’s Singles this year, but his brother Jamie was luckier in the Mixed Doubles.

Also, although Federer winning 8 titles is historic in the context of the Men’s Singles, it’s still less than the record in the Women’s Singles.

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:23:17am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We had a similar line of discussion about the Occupy people a few years back…everybody seems to have their definition of what “gang member” or “terrorist” means, but what is the legal definition?

To me, Occupy was a group of people sitting in a park.

Exactly. They were terrorizing our parks with things like drums and signs and stuff. It is scary for the elders, small children and dogs.

Occupy seems so long ago.

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:26:02am

re: #215 PhillyPretzel

Jeff Sessions should visit Amsterdam and visit a “coffee shop.”

Fresh mushrooms for Jeff.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:26:54am

Only thing I had against the juggalos was the way they sprayed goddamned soda everywhere. That shit is a sticky mess and attracts bugs! Now, get off my lawn!

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:26:57am

re: #221 ObserverArt

Exactly. They were terrorizing our parks with things like drums and signs and stuff. It is scary for the elders, small children and dogs.

Occupy seems so long ago.

It’s sad how it ended. The price we are paying for the economic lessons not yet being acted upon is huge. This administration (I must use the term loosely) really wants to unleash the 1%, the banks etc. the payday loan guys. Cut their regulations, capital gains taxes with revenues taken from the ACA or worse.

Occupy LA is something I will never forget. Frequent lurker NotApproovedbyMPAA and I have one last video in the can about the end days. I never finished it as the active protest ground turned homeless encampment turned refugee camp was a sadder story than I ever want to publish.

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bratwurst  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:29:42am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:30:26am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:31:19am

Breakfast, courtesy of the Canadian Diabetic Association, which was not hacked by Wikileaks:

Asparagus Risotto (has asparagus from my yard, chicken from my neighbour, garlic and Italian seasoning from Penzey’s, and I added crushed red pepper just because).

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:31:45am

re: #209 Anymouse 🌹

And if the new Doctor Who is revealed to have a female companion, watch the wingnuts explode again …

South West Asian non-binary companion, who prefers to wear a burqa…

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plansbandc  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:31:53am

Here’s a nuanced and mature response to the announcement of the new Doctor:

“In the next ep of Doctor Who the doctor breast feeds on the Tardis. Instead of a sonic screwdrivers, she will throw used tampons at the bad guys. Oh no, the doctor couldnt save the world this week, she had cramps. I guess we will be grateful for the endless stream of vagina jokes, if you are in for that sort of thing.”

What a prize he is, right ladies?

(Found in my FB mentions)

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:37:08am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:39:27am

nbcnews.com

Not enough just to interview every Trump supporter in the Solar System, now we’re going to poll just Trump-supporting counties to show how well-liked Trump is.

President Donald Trump’s job approval rating in the American counties that fueled his 2016 victory stands at 50 percent, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll of these “Trump counties.”

Fifty percent of adults in these counties — consisting of Republicans, Democrats and independents — approve of the president’s job performance (including 29 percent who strongly approve), while 46 percent disapprove (including 35 percent who do so strongly).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:39:47am

Next up: Female James (Jane) Bond?

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:40:07am

re: #229 plansbandc

Here’s a nuanced and mature response to the announcement of the new Doctor:

“In the next ep of Doctor Who the doctor breast feeds on the Tardis. Instead of a sonic screwdrivers, she will throw used tampons at the bad guys. Oh no, the doctor couldnt save the world this week, she had cramps. I guess we will be grateful for the endless stream of vagina jokes, if you are in for that sort of thing.”

What a prize he is, right ladies?

The fact that women don’t kill people for saying shit like this already makes them better than men.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:41:01am

re: #232 Eclectic Cyborg

Next up: Female James (Jane) Bond?

Wonder Man!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:41:49am

re: #232 Eclectic Cyborg

Next up: Female James (Jane) Bond?

James is also a female name, though not as commonly used by women now as it was in the past.

thinkbabynames.com

To be fair, I haven’t been confused for a woman with my name in at least a week.

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plansbandc  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:41:49am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I totally want Wonder Man. :D

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:42:38am

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹

Trump-supporting counties:

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:43:36am

re: #235 Anymouse 🌹

James is also a female name, though not as commonly used by women now as it was in the past.

thinkbabynames.com

To be fair, I haven’t been confused for a woman with my name in at least a week.

My mom’s name is Cecil, my dad’s name is Don. Say them out loud, and you’ll understand why I was always asked who was the mom.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:45:50am
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:46:08am

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

Some little girls want to be princesses. Other little girls have……..different priorities.

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I find your lack of paisley jumpers disturbing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:50:20am

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Sure do remember the fries in the salads and the Primanti sandwiches with fries and slaw in them! Many an all night study session at Pitt had me munching on them!

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:51:15am

Because I’m not good with names and I know there even bigger Whovians than me: who was the female Timelord in the original series who was known to wipe out entire groups due to her experiments?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:57:47am

re: #238 Belafon

My mom’s name is Cecil, my dad’s name is Don. Say them out loud, and you’ll understand why I was always asked who was the mom.

Cecil isn’t very common as a woman’s name. My mother got the hippie name “Dawn” in 1940. Not too many men around named Dawn.

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:58:10am

The whole Doctor Who thing is a great social study for me. I have never watched an episode. I didn’t know it was that big a show until I read here.

Being totally neutral to the whole thing makes it interesting reading everyone’s comments. It really is a study in entertainment and how it all ties in with the social aspects like who the character is and what everyone wants in that character to portray for a group of people, etc. Now today we get to see the politics of men’s rights guys weighing in on the character.

No wonder we have so much trouble with reality. We have issues with fantasy because we can’t understand that it is in fact fantasy.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:59:22am
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Alephnaught  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:09:50am

re: #242 Belafon

Because I’m not good with names and I know there even bigger Whovians than me: who was the female Timelord in the original series who was known to wipe out entire groups due to her experiments?

That would be The Rani, who was first seen teaming up with The Master in 1985’s “Mark of the Rani”.

(Before that, the Doctor had a Time Lady companion Romana during the last couple of years of Tom Baker’s era.

And of course, from the very first episode, we have Susan, as the Doctor’s grand daughter….

I could go on, but you probably get the point. The concept of female Time Lords is a no-brainer, since we were introduced to one in the very first episode before we even meet the Doctor. The only question was whether, in regeneration, there can be a change of what we might perceive as gender. And, given that regeneration involves a whole physical change of body, it’s not exactly a stretch, is it?)

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lizardofid  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:11:27am

re: #243 Anymouse 🌹

Cecil isn’t very common as a woman’s name. My mother got the hippie name “Dawn” in 1940. Not too many men around named Dawn.

I expect we could credit Frankie Valli for some of the growth in the name Dawn during the 60’s. (Along with your Mom of course) ; )

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:14:26am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:15:02am

Judge Ducklips says she is sick. I hope Republicans don’t take away her healthcare.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:16:34am

re: #248 A dark and stormy covfefe

You are gonna love this…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:16:37am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

Judge Ducklips says she is sick. I hope Republicans don’t take away her healthcare.

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Yeah I’m sure if Hillary had colluded with Iran to get junk on Trump, Jeanne would be totes fine with it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:18:19am

re: #244 ObserverArt

The whole Doctor Who thing is a great social study for me. I have never watched an episode. I didn’t know it was that big a show until I read here.

Being totally neutral to the whole thing makes it interesting reading everyone’s comments. It really is a study in entertainment and how it all ties in with the social aspects like who the character is and what everyone wants in that character to portray for a group of people, etc. Now today we get to see the politics of men’s rights guys weighing in on the character.

No wonder we have so much trouble with reality. We have issues with fantasy because we can’t understand that it is in fact fantasy.

I’m not a Whovian, mostly because for most of my life I never had a television set.

That said, Dr. Who is one of the longest standing television shows in history, now in its fifty-fourth year (it premièred in 1963).

I’ve seen a few episodes of the show (and regularly watched it in the Nineties when I was in Spain - piped in from Gibraltar).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:19:06am

re: #244 ObserverArt

The whole Doctor Who thing is a great social study for me. I have never watched an episode. I didn’t know it was that big a show until I read here.

I was a big fan as a teenager, kinda lost interest ever since and sort of share your view of it as a study of attitudes and social interaction.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:21:27am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

Judge Ducklips says she is sick. I hope Republicans don’t take away her healthcare.

Foreign national is one thing: representative of foreign government is quite another.

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:22:05am

re: #250 Unshaken Defiance

You are gonna love this…

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You know, I can be simple. It is just great seeing someone be happy because they see a hope come true. Always fun to see a kid get excited too. What is wrong with just being happy someone else is happy?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:22:51am

We ARE going to continue to talk about Russia. You know why, because Putin wants to undermine democratic institutions not just in the US but aorund the world. So yeah sorry assholes who think James O’Keefe’s bullshit merited defunding ACORN. We’re not going to shut up about this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:23:15am

re: #255 ObserverArt

You know, I can be simple. It is just great seeing someone be happy because they see a hope come true. Always fun to see a kid get excited too. What is wrong with just being happy someone else is happy?

Only if you have decided that they deserve to be happy…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:23:20am

re: #163 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:23:44am

re: #258 Unshaken Defiance

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*Trump Brand products may not apply.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:25:41am

re: #246 Alephnaught

That would be The Rani, who was first seen teaming up with The Master in 1985’s “Mark of the Rani”.

(Before that, the Doctor had a Time Lady companion Romana during the last couple of years of Tom Baker’s era.

And of course, from the very first episode, we have Susan, as the Doctor’s grand daughter….

I could go on, but you probably get the point. The concept of female Time Lords is a no-brainer, since we were introduced to one in the very first episode before we even meet the Doctor. The only question was whether, in regeneration, there can be a change of what we might perceive as gender. And, given that regeneration involves a whole physical change of body, it’s not exactly a stretch, is it?)

Well, and even in the modern series, the Master’s final regeneration was from a man to a woman. She called herself “Missy” for short, was played to perfection by Michelle Gomez, and was a character for the ages.

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:28:30am

re: #244 ObserverArt

The whole Doctor Who thing is a great social study for me. I have never watched an episode. I didn’t know it was that big a show until I read here.

It’s very very British in many ways; including, there’s no guns. Never. The doctor finds them repulsive.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:33:02am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

She says we’re not at war with Russia; she won’t admit that Russia is at war with us.

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:35:35am

I wonder how the thinking of Judge Pirro goes over in the Pentagon?

I’m not a warrior type…but I can’t imagine being so playful with Russia goes over well.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:36:18am

Nobody can ruin a brand like Donald Trump. Seriously.

As honest as Trump University, managed like a junk bond funded bankrupt casino, as transparent as non disclosed tax returns, and as genuine as his crocodile smile.

America!

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:37:26am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:37:33am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:37:59am

re: #261 sagehen

It’s very very British in many ways; including, there’s no guns. Never. The doctor finds them repulsive.

Definitely. I used to watch it a lot back in the 1980s (the original run, with Sylvester McCoy as the last Doctor - it aired on the Portland, OR PBS affiliate, OPB) and I thought Christopher Eccleston was pretty good as the Doctor but I’ve really only watched it sporadically since.

I certainly respect its legendary status as a TV show.

And with that, good night Lizards. Up early for work tomorrow.

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plansbandc  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:39:25am

re: #255 ObserverArt

That kind of Commie attitude doesn’t cut it in Trumpland, Libtard.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:43:38am

re: #245 Charles Johnson

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Pretty much my reaction to Chuck Todd on TV. Not real.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:44:56am

re: #265 sagehen

The zero-electricity air conditioner:

Air conditioning works on the principle of compressing a gas, creating heat, and then decompressing it, producing and endothermic effect.

The bottles do the same thing with the air that passes through them: compressing them in the necks of the bottles and then allowing them to decompress and cool the air as as it passes…

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:47:11am

re: #268 plansbandc

That kind of Commie attitude doesn’t cut it in Trumpland, Libtard.

I blame the nuns. They did live communally.

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:48:43am

re: #270 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Air conditioning works on the principle of compressing a gas, creating heat, and then decompressing it, producing and endothermic effect.

The bottles do the same thing with the air that passes through them: compressing them in the necks of the bottles and then allowing them to decompress and cool the air as as it passes…

The Venturi Effect. amazing how such a simple concept can be applied in so many sciences.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:53:42am

re: #266 FormerDirtDart

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Hypocrites.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:56:25am

re: #266 FormerDirtDart

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wheat-dogg  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:56:37am

re: #265 sagehen

The zero-electricity air conditioner:

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Video

Bernoulli would be pleased.


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