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1
jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:07:09pm

Love that theme, and that movie.
“Whose baby is this?”

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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:13:09pm

The ending of that movie was a heart ache like few others. And this tune fit it so well…

Thank you, Charles.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:15:30pm

“I’ll be a good Gordon, Gordon.”

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:20:59pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:22:11pm

OK, I’ve had my long-awaited Game of Thrones fix.

Also, I’m catching up on House of Cards. The two are not all that dissimilar, though fewer people die in HoC.

By season 2, anyway. No spoilers, please.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:32:14pm
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jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:32:48pm

“For at least six months, private contractors and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officials have been quietly preparing to build the first piece of President Trump’s border wall through the Santa Ana Wildlife Refuge in South Texas. The federally owned 2,088-acre refuge, often called the “crown jewel of the national wildlife refuge system,” could see construction begin as early as January 2018, according to a federal official who has been involved in the planning but asked to remain anonymous.”
……..
Established in 1943, the Santa Ana Wildlife Refuge is one of the top birding destinations in North America. Home to at least 400 bird species and 450 species of plants, it also hosts both the rare Sabal palm and the endangered ocelot.
………..
If the levee wall is constructed, it will essentially destroy the refuge, the official said.”

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retired cynic  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:44:44pm

re: #7 jaunte

SUE! In Federal Court!

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:45:49pm

re: #7 jaunte

Gross. Stephen Miller and Stephen Bannon are feeding Fuckface Von Clownstick white genocide tropes on the regular, and bad shit’s happening, and will continue to happen.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:46:04pm

That tiny green spot on the map at lower right is the Santa Ana Wildlife Refuge. Destroying it will not stop anyone or anything from crossing the border, but they will destroy it anyway, because that’s the easy thing for them to do.

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petesh  Jul 16, 2017 • 9:57:13pm

re: #8 retired cynic

SUE! In Federal Court!

Sue, picket, sit-in … No, just NO!

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:00:08pm

Here’s something I didn’t know. Austin is further south than El Paso.

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retired cynic  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:01:22pm

re: #11 petesh

Sue, picket, sit-in … No, just NO!

Surely if it is public now, the nature groups will sue. I’d support that effort!

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:07:23pm

The meltdown continues.

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retired cynic  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:09:11pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

The meltdown continues.

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Poor baby. Nobody loves her. I guess she’ll have to eat worms.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:11:59pm

Homage.

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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:22:46pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

The meltdown continues.

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Ann certainly overvalues her time.

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piratedan  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:23:45pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

well if it cost that much of her fucking time, why not just buy the 1st class seat and bill it as part of your fucking expenses….

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:24:59pm

re: #18 piratedan

She’s got enough money to charter private jets wherever she damn well pleases. She’s an evil POS.

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piratedan  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:27:13pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

understand that too, just tired that the evil bitch has any cause to complain, they are wearing down my sense of civility and they just make me want to punch them.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:30:58pm

re: #18 piratedan

My first thought. She might be a broke hate monger.

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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:41:46pm

Not that I really care, but where was Annie flying to/from?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:46:04pm

re: #22 BeachDem

Not that I really care, but where was Annie flying to/from?

The depths of hell?

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:49:14pm

I’m pretty sure she could have chartered a private jet for less than the $10,000 of her time she “invested” in procuring just the right seat.

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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:55:26pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

The depths of hell?

Origin or destination (or round trip?)

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retired cynic  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:56:14pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

The depths of hell?

Those other people didn’t look like they deserved that destination!

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 16, 2017 • 10:56:54pm

re: #24 Single-handed sailor

Private Jet Charter rates are $1200-$3000 an hour.

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freetoken  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:02:01pm

For some reason, not only do I find this tweet gif to be hilarious, but extremely fitting to our current political theater:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:16:59pm

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

Imagine thinking that katana wielding Victorian era interspecies lesbian detectives are okay but a female Dr is just a bridge too far.

Yes, but the point is that the katana wielding Victorian interspecies lesbian detectives were always Victorian interspecies lesbians, while the Doctor was always a Man.

Really, how can you fail to grasp such a basic concept?

/

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:22:02pm

re: #27 Single-handed sailor

Private Jet Charter rates are $1200-$3000 an hour.

Reminder: plane rental rates only count actual air hours. The charter service has a minimum (if you want it all day, there’s usually a 2-hour minimum charge, if you take it for the weekend the minimum might be 8 hours), but your hourly rate doesn’t include time parked at the airport while you enjoy visiting wherever it is you’ve gone.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2017 • 11:42:16pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:37:52am
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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:06:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:08:21am

re: #33 Kragar

Mars needs women!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:33:57am
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Dave In Austin  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:36:23am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mars needs women!!!

With cookware….

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freetoken  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:02:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:51:14am

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

New page:
Mother Jones: A Scientist Didn’t Disclose Important Data—and Let Everyone Believe a Popular Weedkiller Causes Cancer

Proof that we should not believe any scientist unless they confirm our preconceived notions.

/

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:34:05am

re: #14 teleskiguy

The meltdown continues.

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That, in a nutshell, shows the gross inequality in America today. $10,000 of her time. FFS. IOW, time that might be better spent spewing racist hate garbage.

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Teukka  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:35:06am

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

New page:
Mother Jones: A Scientist Didn’t Disclose Important Data—and Let Everyone Believe a Popular Weedkiller Causes Cancer

One thing I hate — and other scientists hate — is when scientists cut corners. Because it is diverging from the scientific method, which is the only thing which is there to mitigate the effects of the researchers biases, errors and logical fallacies.

In practice, it means that the community has to redo work they thought was done correctly the first time, and fight the first, second and up to the nth level damage the divergence caused.

I’m glad that this shit got caught at a relatively early stage. The longer since the starting point of the divergence, the worse the effects of it will be. Even being 1° off will rack up a lot of distance over time. Imagine the effects of even a small divergence on a time scale of three or four decades.

Basically, when you diverge, the effects of biases, errors and fallacies only accumulate over time, the data becomes more and more corrupted, and any theories you form on the data become more and more “off”. In the end, you can easily end up in a situation where you get the opposite effect for the intended one.

Guys and gals, double-check my order, this should fit on a flatbed truck:

o Tables for flipping: Check
o Napalm A to assure table combustion: Check
o Tar for base coating of cheating scientist: Check
o Feathers for application to base coat on cheating no-good scientist: Check
o Popcorn for any spectator Lizardim: Check

Now, excuse me while I go to that corner over there and breathe fire for a bit…

(Duplicated on paged item)

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Teukka  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:38:36am

re: #41 Teukka

Addendum: And the scientific community sure as hell doesn’t need shit like this with people skeptical of science in power.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:04:23am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Aaron Blair, the scientist who led the IARC’s review panel on glyphosate, had access to data from a large study that strongly suggested that Roundup did not cause cancer after all—but he withheld that data from the RoundUp review panel. Weirder still: Blair himself was a senior researcher on that study.

Because things NOT causing cancer doesn’t make headlines. That is my guess.

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freetoken  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:27:30am

Getting lots of problems on Youtube this morning.

Anyone else likewise?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:31:21am

I know it’s early, but has Jay Sekulow said a new derp yet today?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:36:00am

re: #44 freetoken

Getting lots of problems on Youtube this morning.

Anyone else likewise?

Yeah, I get a screen showing a monkey and things are all screwed up but they’re working on it.

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:36:07am

re: #44 freetoken

Getting lots of problems on Youtube this morning.

Anyone else likewise?

Yeah, I was trying to check out Ian’s Forgotten Weapons daily posting and had a bit of a problem getting it to come up.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:37:33am

Dr. Who Casting Bingo for Snowflakes

Dr, Who Bingo
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:39:27am

This is looking very bad. The mayor says she is “heartsick” over the shooting and there are “many questions” about it.
Australian woman in Minneapolis fatally shot by police officer

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freetoken  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:44:59am

re: #46 Sir John Barron

re: #47 William Lewis

Thanks. I’m getting the monkey too, or just a blank screen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:47:01am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:53:17am

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

All a coincidence, I’m sure. /

Also, Brit Hume and other media wingnuts don’t think there were any consequences of the nothingburger meeting with Junior so shutup about treason and stuff. //

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:54:47am

I wonder how soon or how many MAGA dupes will wake up and realize they’ve walked about ten steps past the Grand Canyon ledge with nothing but dog’s clean air beneath them?

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:02:08am

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This is looking very bad. The mayor says she is “heartsick” over the shooting and there are “many questions” about it.
Australian woman in Minneapolis fatally shot by police officer

Diplomatic incident or no, the officer will walk…

Number one
You have the right not to be killed
Murder is a crime
Unless it was done
By a policeman
Or an aristocrat
Oh, know your rights

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:13:27am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:14:07am

re: #48 I Would Prefer Not To

Dr. Who Casting Bingo for Snowflakes

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MRA wingnuts sure have mighty strong feelings about fictional characters on TV shows.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:17:18am

re: #14 teleskiguy

The meltdown continues.

Remember when the man was evicted from his seat and wingnuts all over said BUSINESSES CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT SHUTUP AND TAKE IT LOSER!?

Also:

$30! It cost me $10,000 of my time to pre-select the seat I wanted, investigate type of plane & go back periodically to review seat options
— Ann Coulter

Did someone hack Ann’s account? Because you have to be pretty daff to say this.

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Teukka  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:18:07am

re: #57 Sir John Barron

Remember when the man was evicted from his seat and wingnuts all over said BUSINESSES CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT SHUTUP AND TAKE IT LOSER!?

Also:

Did someone hack Ann’s account? Because you have to be pretty daff to say this.

It wouldn’t surprise me if she is that daff IRL.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:19:08am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. The weather is gloriously typical NYC summer weather, with the hazy, hot, and humid coming later this week. I can deal with hot weather, but my tolerance for right wing dumbassery/bullshit is approaching zero.

Every day Trump has been in office, he’s undermined US national security in ways large and small. Whether it’s the commentary that he trusts Russians over US intel community, or that he trusts Russians over US media, or that he’s pushing for travel bans that screw our allies (including translators who helped us out overseas in places like Iraq - and where most GOPers can’t locate on a map) and do nothing to improve our security, every action by Trump has inured benefits to someone other than Americans and our security.

Now, we’ve got Trump screwing around with a proven and successful Pentagon policy. This screws over those servicemembers who are already here, plus deters others from doing the same - serving the nation in the US Armed Forces. It’s particularly galling given Trump dodged the draft all so that he could have his own personal Vietnam avoiding STDs back in the States.

So there’s those lies regarding Trump, Russia, and national security.

Then there are the lies by Trump and his cabal of cronies about Obamacare and what Trumpcare does:

It’s indisputable that Trumpcare leaves millions more uninsured than under Obamacare, or even pre-Obamacare. This is an absolute lie - everyone from the insurers, actuaries, on down to the AMA and AARP call this sheer dumbfuckery all to give millionaires like Trump massive tax breaks. They’re breaking health coverage for tens of millions of people. That’s the bargain Trump and the GOP are pushing, and McConnell delayed the vote so that they rush McCain back to vote on it (he’s coming off surgery for what will henceforth be a preexisting condition that would jack up his premiums under the plan he’d be voting on if he were on insurance most Americans have).

Everywhere you turn, the GOP lies. GOP support for all this remains stubbornly high, but independents and Democrats are showing that the nation will not take any of this lying down.

The problem is that Trump still has support from the GOP in Congress - and that’s where the pressure has to be focused on. That and winning back Congress in 2018. Those go hand in hand, and it requires multipronged approach to deal with voter suppression and efforts to deny access to the polls that the GOP are intent on pushing to maintain their grip on power (which to date has been a sustained lack of actual laws enacted despite holding the House, Senate, and WH). That’s because the GOP doesn’t know how, or care, to govern. All they’re doing is opposing what is already the law of the land and trying to reverse the course of history from 50 years worth of social advancement.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:19:22am

re: #58 Teukka

It wouldn’t surprise me if she is that daff IRL.

Only the most Donald-Trump-level-vain person says this. Oh, wait, it’s Ann Coulter.

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A Cranky One  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:20:54am

Hey William:

Posted this the other day but don’t think you saw it:

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makeitstop  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:22:53am

No tweets this morning? Odd.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:25:56am

re: #62 makeitstop

No tweets this morning? Odd.

I’m busy watching Fox and Friends, my favorite show. They’re so great. Not watching the failing Morning Joe with Psycho Mika.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:26:53am

Except for Anne Coulter being slapped down and publicly humiliated, the news has been uniformly awful. Social media are an orgy of hate and ignorance. Preppers are often accused of actually hoping for their SHTF or TEOTWAWKI events. I think many of them do (though they may not understand the full implications.) Maybe they are right anyway.

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jeffreyw  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:28:12am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:32:37am

*blink*

She lied.

Police say the Colerain Township woman who was hosting a gathering where nine people were shot July 8 wasn’t pregnant at the time of the shooting.

Colerain Township Police Chief Mark Denney says false information is hampering the investigation into the shooting that killer Autum Garrett and wounded eight others at a gender reveal party.

Denney said police do not have an explanation as to why she had a gender reveal party if she was not pregnant.

“All we have at this point is speculation,” he said.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:36:20am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:37:49am

Did Ann Coulter book TWO SEATS, one for herself and one so she could have an empty seat next to her? In the “Exit door” row which people like because it has some extra legroom.

I don’t get why she doesn’t fly First Class.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:39:04am

re: #57 Sir John Barron

Remember when the man was evicted from his seat and wingnuts all over said BUSINESSES CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT SHUTUP AND TAKE IT LOSER!?

Also:

Did someone hack Ann’s account? Because you have to be pretty daff to say this.

If she spent that much time choosing a seat, she’s (a) lying (b) stupid or (c) has OCD.

I can choose my airline seat in about 15 minutes or less. I doubt Ann’s billable hour rate is $40,000/h.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:40:51am

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

Did Ann Coulter book TWO SEATS, one for herself and one so she could have an empty seat next to her? In the “Exit door” row which people like because it has some extra legroom.

I don’t get why she doesn’t fly First Class.

CT: She was hoping to have something to complain about to get herself back in the news. That’s also why she showed up so late.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:41:49am

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

Did Ann Coulter book TWO SEATS, one for herself and one so she could have an empty seat next to her? In the “Exit door” row which people like because it has some extra legroom.

I don’t get why she doesn’t fly First Class.

She’s either cheap or broke.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:43:31am

re: #71 wheat-dogg

She’s either cheap or broke.

Maybe Newsmax or whatever wingnut outfit buys up all her shty books doesn’t reimburse her much.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:44:33am

re: #72 Sir John Barron

Maybe Newsmax or whatever wingnut outfit buys up all her shty books doesn’t reimburse her much.

Life is rough when you don’t have a real job.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:47:30am

re: #14 teleskiguy

The meltdown continues.

Never thought I could feel sorry for an airline. Good work, Ann Coulter.

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:48:43am

re: #61 A Cranky One

Hey William:

Posted this the other day but don’t think you saw it:

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Targetpractice  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:49:34am

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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There’s just a point where this becomes rubbing rock salt into people’s wounds. You’re going to set up the market such that the worthwhile policies will go into a death spiral, then the shitty plans that cover nothing ensure that you’ll be unable to actually get insurance when you need it for six months. All while these fuckheads go on the nightly news to whine about how “wrong” it is that an insurance company has to cover you once you become sick.

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:50:16am

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

Did Ann Coulter book TWO SEATS, one for herself and one so she could have an empty seat next to her? In the “Exit door” row which people like because it has some extra legroom.

I don’t get why she doesn’t fly First Class.

Easy - Greed. It’s cheaper to buy two sardine class tickets and whine about it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:52:11am

Last night I watched “Sully” the movie about the airline pilot who did a water landing in the Hudson. It was actually pretty good, considering that they had to build a 2-hour movie around an event that took about 3 and a half minutes in real time.

In spite of the heroic landing, Sully gets in trouble because he destroyed a $100 million aircraft.

The guy who plays the co-pilot is the same actor who played “Two Face” in the Batman movie.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:57:27am

re: #78 The Vicious Babushka

Last night I watched “Sully” the movie about the airline pilot who did a water landing in the Hudson. It was actually pretty good, considering that they had to build a 2-hour movie around an event that took about 3 and a half minutes in real time.

In spite of the heroic landing, Sully gets in trouble because he destroyed a $100 million aircraft.

The guy who plays the co-pilot is the same actor who played “Two Face” in the Batman movie.

The key idea in the movie was the simulation results. The simulations all showed the plane had enough time to land at Teterboro or LaGuardia, but Sully pointed out the simulations did not include the “human factor” — the 30 seconds or so that pilot and co-pilot took to decide what to do after all the engines died. That unavoidable delay meant the plane could not possibly land at an airport, and Sully chose the only viable option.

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I cannot.  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:57:57am

I am a masochist, I have spent the morning in YouTube comment section regarding the 13th Doctor.

I have lost hope in humanity…I mean, even more than I already have.

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:58:40am

I have to go run an errand but first I wanted to share this. I get very tired of those inane French surrender jokes that the wingnuts spew. One of the few decent gun channels on Youtube, Forgotten Weapons (a history oriented channel) came up with this shirt to acknowledge & give the respect due to the 1.4 million Poilus who died defending their homeland in almost 5 years of the most brutal warfare the world has ever seen.

shop.bbtv.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:01:58am

re: #81 William Lewis

I have to go run an errand but first I wanted to share this. I get very tired of those inane French surrender jokes that the wingnuts spew. One of the few decent gun channels on Youtube, Forgotten Weapons (a history oriented channel) came up with this shirt to acknowledge & give the respect due to the 1.4 million Poilus who died defending their homeland in almost 5 years of the most brutal warfare the world has ever seen.

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shop.bbtv.com

I do too. Anyone who thinks the French are cowards has no idea what their nation has experienced the past century especially.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:02:12am

re: #79 wheat-dogg

The plane involved was a A320-214 with 2 engines. And once the engines lost power, there was no real way to steer to Teterboro or return back to LGA without crossing through densely populated areas where any slipup could result in massive loss of life both on the ground and on the plane.

The movie also took liberties with the investigators being portrayed as the bad guys (because there’s gotta be a bad guy) to create tension.

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Teukka  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:06:56am

re: #83 lawhawk

The plane involved was a A320-214 with 2 engines. And once the engines lost power, there was no real way to steer to Teterboro or return back to LGA without crossing through densely populated areas where any slipup could result in massive loss of life both on the ground and on the plane.

The movie also took liberties with the investigators being portrayed as the bad guys (because there’s gotta be a bad guy) to create tension.

Well, you can’t paint a certain official on the hill (Micah) IIRC in this climate.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:07:35am

I also don’t like the event being referred to as a “miracle.” It wasn’t a miracle, it was just some damn fine airplane driving.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:07:53am

Maybe Ann could ride Amtrak

Amtrak’s plan to create a new “economy” class on it trains is nothing more than a move to boost its bottom line by inconveniencing riders, US Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said Sunday. Schumer warned that the plan would have trains feeling more like cramped airplane cabins, arguing Amtrak must “scrap the shrinking seats idea” and the federal government must invest more in the railroad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:08:34am

re: #81 William Lewis

I have to go run an errand but first I wanted to share this. I get very tired of those inane French surrender jokes that the wingnuts spew. One of the few decent gun channels on Youtube, Forgotten Weapons (a history oriented channel) came up with this shirt to acknowledge & give the respect due to the 1.4 million Poilus who died defending their homeland in almost 5 years of the most brutal warfare the world has ever seen.

[Embedded content]

shop.bbtv.com

The point is that they did not want to join us in a useless war in Iraq and we can never forgive them for that.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:09:14am

re: #56 Sir John Barron

MRA wingnuts sure have mighty strong feelings about fictional characters on TV shows.

Have any of them responded with “I have a female friend, so I know this stuff?”

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:09:52am

re: #80 I cannot.

I am a masochist, I have spent the morning in YouTube comment section regarding the 13th Doctor.

I have lost hope in humanity…I mean, even more than I already have.

Consider:

1) it’s fiction.
2) Doctor Who has already established that Gallifreyans can switch gender identities in regenerations (see Missy/Master) for the most recent example.
3) In a fictionalized universe where as goddamnedfrank pointed out that it’s okay to have interspecies lesbian relationships (Vastra and Jenny), a Doctor that regenerates into a female is suddenly verbotten or a bridge too far?

Fuck that. Heck, I’ll take the word from the following over some online misogynist/bigots:

Or maybe Colin Baker.

But these are the same people upset over a comic book movie that portrayed a character as black (Heimdall). Or that Idris Elba might be cast as the fictional character James Bond. Bigots gotta bigot.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:10:43am

re: #83 lawhawk

The plane involved was a A320-214 with 2 engines. And once the engines lost power, there was no real way to steer to Teterboro or return back to LGA without crossing through densely populated areas where any slipup could result in massive loss of life both on the ground and on the plane.

The movie also took liberties with the investigators being portrayed as the bad guys (because there’s gotta be a bad guy) to create tension.

I corrected my comment about the number of engines. And yes, the screenwriters made the investigators more antagonistic and skeptical than Sully says they were in real life.

The movie did do a good job showing how New York’s maritime crews responded quickly to the emergency. Not one life lost.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:11:14am

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

When I was young and strapping and had not seen the inside of a doctor’s office in years, I took out a $60-per-month insurance policy with $5,000 deductible.

But that was not really health insurance, I simply looked on it as bankruptcy insurance in case I got hit by a truck or something…

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:12:37am

If only there was some way that we could force airlines to honor their seating and payment system, reducing their ability to bump passengers.

But that’s antithetical to these fuckers because that’d be regulation.

The airlines are free to bump passengers as they see fit, and Coulter was the one chosen this time. The odds weren’t in her favor.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:14:03am

YouTube is back.

94
Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:17:00am

re: #83 lawhawk

The plane involved was a A320-214 with 2 engines. And once the engines lost power, there was no real way to steer to Teterboro or return back to LGA without crossing through densely populated areas where any slipup could result in massive loss of life both on the ground and on the plane.

The movie also took liberties with the investigators being portrayed as the bad guys (because there’s gotta be a bad guy) to create tension.

I need to see it again. I’ve been predisposed to think that Eastwood has a “big government is evil” agenda, but that’s probably unfair.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:17:48am

re: #92 lawhawk

If only there was some way that we could force airlines to honor their seating and payment system, reducing their ability to bump passengers.

But that’s antithetical to these fuckers because that’d be regulation.

The airlines are free to bump passengers as they see fit, and Coulter was the one chosen this time. The odds weren’t in her favor.

I’ve been fortunate in that I’ve never been bumped from a flight, but I’m obsessive about arriving early. Also, most of my flying nowadays is international, so I’m not as subject to bumping as domestic fliers are.

The one time I was bumped happened like 30 years ago, but the airline offered me a replacement seat in first class at no additional charge. I took it.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:17:54am

re: #70 Belafon

CT: She was hoping to have something to complain about to get herself back in the news. That’s also why she showed up so late.

Makes you wonder doesn’t it? Certainly air travel issues are in the news and to complain about it is fashionable. If you need attention, jump on something everyone is following.

Don’t most of her books come out and cover some wingnut butthurt issues at the time? She just loves to feed the beast when it is hungry for a certain treat.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:19:47am

I really hope Coulter’s shelf life is shorter than Phyllis Schalfry. 40 more years of her? No thanks.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:20:52am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When I was young and strapping and had not seen the inside of a doctor’s office in years, I took out a $60-per-month insurance policy with $5,000 deductible.

But that was not really health insurance, I simply looked on it as bankruptcy insurance in case I got hit by a truck or something…

I took out a small term life insurance policy for similar reasons. If I should croak while outside the USA, I don’t want my family to go into hock just to deal with my remains.

Life insurance for us oldsters is not cheap, I discovered.

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freetoken  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:24:03am

re: #89 lawhawk

Consider also the religious nature of Dr. Who. As I have repeated often here, Dr. Who is a Christological figure, a savior for a Post-Christian Britain. The entire series since at least Pertwee has pushed this idea, and in recent years all the more so.

So now we have the Christ-figure being female, which is unsettling to some even though they like to think of themselves as secular.

I am disappointed though that the new Doctor is not older. In some ways there is still a bias, namely, that the woman has to be attractive. While the new actor is not so young to be thought of as too young, she’s in that nebulous region of middle-age where women are still judged on their sexual attractiveness by fashion industry standards. I would have rather seen an older woman play the part, echoing the original Doctor.

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freetoken  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:24:38am

Judi Dench as the Doctor. Now that would be something.

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Teukka  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:26:06am

re: #100 freetoken

Judi Dench as the Doctor. Now that would be something.

Her, or Tilda Swinton.
*nods*

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:26:24am

re: #80 I cannot.

I am a masochist, I have spent the morning in YouTube comment section regarding the 13th Doctor.

I have lost hope in humanity…I mean, even more than I already have.

I can’t get on twitter, or I would find you the tweet of the little girl who’s watching the announcement, and goes absolutely giddy when she finds out the next Doctor will be a woman.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:27:28am

re: #100 freetoken

Judi Dench as the Doctor. Now that would be something.

But M can’t be a Time Lord!!

On the other hand, it would explain some plot holes in 007 movies.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:27:43am

re: #100 freetoken

Judi Dench as the Doctor. Now that would be something.

But you’d expect a Doctor that looks like Judi Dench to kick butt.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:29:10am

re: #95 wheat-dogg

I’ve been fortunate in that I’ve never been bumped from a flight, but I’m obsessive about arriving early. Also, most of my flying nowadays is international, so I’m not as subject to bumping as domestic fliers are.

The one time I was bumped happened like 30 years ago, but the airline offered me a replacement seat in first class at no additional charge. I took it.

Almost 20 years ago I missed a connecting flight to Japan when SF was fogged over and we were delayed. I was a bit distraught as I had someone traveling a long distance to meet me. United gave me first class on the first flight the next day and gave me a hotel room with a breakfast voucher. I didn’t have cell phone or easy email in those days, but I paid for a long distance call and everything worked out. First class was amazing.

I volunteered to give up a seat once because I was traveling with someone for work who was kind of irritating me, so I chose to go a few hours later and spend time reading alone. I didn’t get anything more than a “thanks” from American, though.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:29:26am

re: #103 wheat-dogg

But M can’t be a Time Lord!!

On the other hand, it would explain some plot holes in 007 movies.

One of my family’s favorite things to do is imagine the actors are actually the Timelords playing the character they need to be in other movies. The Tenth Doctor was helping Voldemort, for instance, in order to bring about his destruction.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:29:29am

My iPhone 7 GPS has crapped the bed the last few days. It can’t find my exact location on maps apps and my fitness apps can’t track my routes. Anyone have any advice/tricks? I scoured the interweb and did the usual of rebooting, toggling everything, etc, etc.

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freetoken  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:31:06am

re: #103 wheat-dogg

But M can’t be a Time Lord!!

On the other hand, it would explain some plot holes in 007 movies.

I thought the woman who held the M office, as played by Dench, was dead? Wasn’t she killed in story-line in Scotland?

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VegasGolfer  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:31:12am

re: #83 lawhawk

The movie also took liberties with the investigators being portrayed as the bad guys (because there’s gotta be a bad guy) to create tension.

Based on my 26 yrs in the FAA, the portrayal of the heads of the investigations was pretty spot on. There is always an air of guilt before innocence when it came to pilots or air traffic controllers involved in these types of incidents.
Of course, when you portray someone in a negative light, they will try by any means to defend themselves.
In the end the way that Sully portrayed the successful outcome as a team effort is what I really admire about the airline pilot community and also from air traffic controllers, who are always on the other side of these kind of events.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:32:03am

re: #106 Belafon

One of my family’s favorite things to do is imagine the actors are actually the Timelords playing the character they need to be in other movies. The Tenth Doctor was helping Voldemort, for instance, in order to bring about his destruction.

Lady Crawley was just helping Britain’s transition from an imperial power so that she could later become PM and deal with alien invaders.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:33:00am

re: #108 freetoken

I thought the woman who held the M office, as played by Dench, was dead? Wasn’t she killed in story-line in Scotland?

Dench as M lasted three movies. Skyfall was her last appearance.

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Targetpractice  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:34:33am

re: #99 freetoken

Consider also the religious nature of Dr. Who. As I have repeated often here, Dr. Who is a Christological figure, a savior for a Post-Christian Britain. The entire series since at least Pertwee has pushed this idea, and in recent years all the more so.

So now we have the Christ-figure being female, which is unsettling to some even though they like to think of themselves as secular.

I am disappointed though that the new Doctor is not older. In some ways there is still a bias, namely, that the woman has to be attractive. While the new actor is not so young to be thought of as too young, she’s in that nebulous region of middle-age where women are still judged on their sexual attractiveness by fashion industry standards. I would have rather seen an older woman play the part, echoing the original Doctor.

Whittaker is a year older than Tennant was when he became the Tenth Doctor, older than Smith when he became the Eleventh, and is only six years younger than Eccleston was when he became the Ninth. She’s in roughly the same age range as all the Doctors have been since the new series started back in ‘05.

113
Dr Lizardo  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:35:31am

Second trailer for Blade Runner 2049 dropped and hot damn it looks gorgeous.

BLADE RUNNER 2049 – Trailer 2

I’m hoping for the best.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:35:36am

Good morning!

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:35:50am

re: #99 freetoken

IMO someone like Dench or Swinton would have been too famous for the role though they would have rocked it. I think someone along the lines of Imelda Staunton or even Julie Walters could have carried off the role - someone who’s well known to the audience, but whose fame doesn’t overshadow the role.

Still, it wont matter what woman got the role, because for some people, a woman in the role is just a bridge too far.

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Teukka  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:37:13am

re: #115 lawhawk

IMO someone like Dench or Swinton would have been too famous for the role though they would have rocked it. I think someone along the lines of Imelda Staunton or even Julie Walters could have carried off the role - someone who’s well known to the audience, but whose fame doesn’t overshadow the role.

Still, it wont matter what woman got the role, because for some people, a woman in the role is just a bridge too far.

Agreed, Tilda is too famous. But she would really have been a good Doctor, IMO.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:37:23am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:41:07am

re: #117 lawhawk

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So you’ll shut up now about Hillary and Brazile right?//

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:41:18am

He’s so stupid.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:43:27am

re: #119 HappyWarrior

He’s so stupid.

He’s gone from denying any meetings happened at all, to saying there was a meeting specifically for oppo research. Prosecutors will have a lot of fun with his timeline.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:43:53am

re: #117 lawhawk

What’s this in reference to? Is our so called potus tweeting?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:44:00am

re: #120 wheat-dogg

He’s gone from denying any meetings happened at all, to saying there was a meeting specifically for oppo research. Prosecutors will have a lot of fun with his timeline.

Exactly.

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Targetpractice  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:44:28am

re: #117 lawhawk

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You could almost make a rule out of it: Whatever denial Trump makes, you can expect a total reversal within a week’s time.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:46:00am

re: #123 Targetpractice

You could almost make a rule out of it: Whatever denial Trump makes, you can expect a total reversal within a week’s time.

That’s why I eventually expect a full admission in time.

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Targetpractice  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:51:56am

The meeting never happened!

Ok, the meeting happened, but it was a minor deal about adoption.

Ok, we were offered info on Hillary, but we didn’t take it seriously.

Ok, we’re on record being enthusiastic about Russian info on Hillary, but we were deceived.

Yeah, we were deceived because they made this promise and didn’t deliver, which makes us victims.

In fact, we’re victims because any other campaign would do this!

Yeah, that’s right, we went for oppo research provided by the Russians, but anybody would have done that!

Amazing how quickly we went from total denial to total admission.

126
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:54:12am

Here’s what Ann Coulter Tweeted about Dr. Dao being dragged from the United flight==>

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:54:47am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

That’s why I eventually expect a full admission in time.

Let’s hope it is in time to save America…

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Targetpractice  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:56:36am

And let’s not forget that for the past week, the wingnuts have been floating the idea that the whole meeting was a set-up by the DNC/Obama. So which was it: A set-up or a legitimate meeting that anybody would have taken? Can’t be both.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:58:22am

re: #121 Sir John Barron

Indeed Trump is. He’s busy railing on about how life is so unfair and that he and his spawn are facing federal investigations on multiple fronts thanks to his perfidy.

130
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:59:09am

Trumpcare is the lesser equivalent of auto insurance like The General.

General Auto Insurance - TV Spot - Jon M Wailin

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:00:10am

re: #126 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s what Ann Coulter Tweeted about Dr. Dao being dragged from the United flight==>

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Karma’s a bitch eh Ann?

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:06:09am

re: #129 lawhawk

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Targetpractice  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:13:38am

So Scarborough’s in the WaPo op-ed section today, once again pushing the “The GOP became a horrible party practically overnight!” bit, before ending on a “Both Sides!” storyline where the forces of independent voters will rise up and support a third way that brings down the present “duopoly.”

They’re ahead of schedule, but the “serious” conservatives are following the script of “Oh, I never expected things to get this bad!” that they always do the moment their latest “man of the common people” becomes as popular as gonorrhea.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:15:51am

re: #125 Targetpractice

The meeting never happened!

Ok, the meeting happened, but it was a minor deal about adoption.

Ok, we were offered info on Hillary, but we didn’t take it seriously.

Ok, we’re on record being enthusiastic about Russian info on Hillary, but we were deceived.

Yeah, we were deceived because they made this promise and didn’t deliver, which makes us victims.

In fact, we’re victims because any other campaign would do this!

Yeah, that’s right, we went for oppo research provided by the Russians, but anybody would have done that!

Amazing how quickly we went from total denial to total admission.

Also we were set up by Hillary Dems! We’re the victims here!

136
Mattand  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:16:19am

Just reading about the Senate Trumpcare bill over at TPM. I keep going back to Josh Marshall’s axiom that moderates always cave, and that all of the fuss they’re raising right now is merely theater.

God knows I’m as far from a political expert as one can get. Thing is, I keep looking at the news reports saying “Two Senators are Confirmed ‘No’, Who Will Be the Third???”, when, IMO, the headline should be “GOP in Senate All but Assured That Their Horrible ‘Fuck the Poor and Everyone Who Isn’t Us’ Bill Soon to Pass.” (TPM is just as guilty of this as everyone else, it should be noted.)

I mean, seriously, does anyone think this won’t pass? Think about it: most of the Republican Senators are literally looking at the damage the bill will cause, almost immediately, and going, “Yeah, that’s fine.”

These monsters are still so fucking driven by trying to fuck over Obama. Plus, they looked at Trump, knowing what a cancer he would be on this country, and were like “Don’t care. This is how we ram through all of our radical, regressive policies.”

I really do try to keep a positive attitude about all of this stuff, but this fucking game of “Will they or won’t they?” is bullshit. They wlll. They’re Republicans: no matter how fucked up the policy is, they fall in line.

Their general attitude of “Party before country” makes as big as a terrorist group as ISIS, and one that is doing way, way damage than ISIS ever will.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:16:26am

re: #134 Targetpractice

So Scarborough’s in the WaPo op-ed section today, once again pushing the “The GOP became a horrible party practically overnight!” bit, before ending on a “Both Sides!” storyline where the forces of independent voters will rise up and support a third way that brings down the present “duopoly.”

They’re ahead of schedule, but the “serious” conservatives are following the script of “Oh, I never expected things to get this bad!” that they always do the moment their latest “man of the common people” becomes as popular as gonorrhea.

Sanders Scarborough 2020!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:16:34am

re: #128 Targetpractice

And let’s not forget that for the past week, the wingnuts have been floating the idea that the whole meeting was a set-up by the DNC/Obama. So which was it: A set-up or a legitimate meeting that anybody would have taken? Can’t be both.

All of the above.

/

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Mattand  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:18:49am

re: #134 Targetpractice

So Scarborough’s in the WaPo op-ed section today, once again pushing the “The GOP became a horrible party practically overnight!” bit, before ending on a “Both Sides!” storyline where the forces of independent voters will rise up and support a third way that brings down the present “duopoly.”

They’re ahead of schedule, but the “serious” conservatives are following the script of “Oh, I never expected things to get this bad!” that they always do the moment their latest “man of the common people” becomes as popular as gonorrhea.

Oh, fuck Joe Scarborough. Seriously, the only reason he’s on this “Lookit me, I’m rejecting Trump!” tear is because Donnie was mean to him and Mika. Seriously, this is the only reason they are doing this dance.

I can’t be the only one noticing this.

140
I cannot.  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:19:40am

Holy shit.

Incel is the dickhead term for “Involuntary Celibate”, that is, guys who can’t get laid because they’re insufferable assholes.

141
ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:19:42am

re: #136 Mattand

Just reading about the Senate Trumpcare bill over at TPM. I keep going back to Josh Marshall’s axiom that moderates always cave, and that all of the fuss they’re raising right now is merely theater.

God knows I’m as far from a political expert as one can get. Thing is, I keep looking at the news reports saying “Two Senators are Confirmed ‘No’, Who Will Be the Third???”, when, IMO, the headline should be “GOP in Senate All but Assured That Their Horrible ‘Fuck the Poor and Everyone Who Isn’t Us’ Bill Soon to Pass.” (TPM is just as guilty of this as everyone else, it should be noted.)

I mean, seriously, does anyone think this won’t pass? Think about it: most of the Republican Senators are literally looking at the damage the bill will cause, almost immediately, and going, “Yeah, that’s fine.”

These monsters are still so fucking driven by trying to fuck over Obama. Plus, they looked at Trump, knowing what a cancer he would be on this country, and were like “Don’t care. This is how we ram through all of our radical, regressive policies.”

I really do try to keep a positive attitude about all of this stuff, but this fucking game of “Will they or won’t they?” is bullshit. They wlll. They’re Republicans: no matter how fucked up the policy is, they fall in line.

Their general attitude of “Party before country” makes as big as a terrorist group as ISIS, and one that is doing way, way damage than ISIS ever will.

I don’t think it will pass. So I am going to be that somebody.

Have you contacted any Senators and asked them to vote no?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:20:42am

re: #128 Targetpractice

Meeting was about adoption.

The meeting was about campaign dirt but it was a set up.

The meeting was a nothingburger anyway.

Anybody would have agreed to this meeting.

What we did was not as bad as the pee tape dossier that Hillary collected.

How come Obama didn’t stop us?

Obama-Lynch let Russian lawyer in country.

How come Secret Service didn’t stop meeting?

Donald Sr. didn’t know about meeting.

Collusion with Russia is OK if MAGA!!!

Hi, here’s my integrity and my soul.

It keeps getting better. Funniest thing is watching the Trump dumplings in the media and on Twitter continue walking off the cliff.

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Targetpractice  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:21:56am

re: #136 Mattand

Just reading about the Senate Trumpcare bill over at TPM. I keep going back to Josh Marshall’s axiom that moderates always cave, and that all of the fuss they’re raising right now is merely theater.

God knows I’m as far from a political expert as one can get. Thing is, I keep looking at the news reports saying “Two Senators are Confirmed ‘No’, Who Will Be the Third???”, when, IMO, the headline should be “GOP in Senate All but Assured That Their Horrible ‘Fuck the Poor and Everyone Who Isn’t Us’ Bill Soon to Pass.” (TPM is just as guilty of this as everyone else, it should be noted.)

I mean, seriously, does anyone think this won’t pass? Think about it: most of the Republican Senators are literally looking at the damage the bill will cause, almost immediately, and going, “Yeah, that’s fine.”

These monsters are still so fucking driven by trying to fuck over Obama. Plus, they looked at Trump, knowing what a cancer he would be on this country, and were like “Don’t care. This is how we ram through all of our radical, regressive policies.”

I really do try to keep a positive attitude about all of this stuff, but this fucking game of “Will they or won’t they?” is bullshit. They wlll. They’re Republicans: no matter how fucked up the policy is, they fall in line.

Their general attitude of “Party before country” makes as big as a terrorist group as ISIS, and one that is doing way, way damage than ISIS ever will.

The “will they or won’t they” bit is mostly theater, meant to pressure the party leadership into sweetening the pot. They’re going to cave, it’s just a matter of Yertle finding their thirty pieces of silver. And those who can’t be bought, he figures will vote for the bill just to avoid getting challenged back at home next year. The idea that the “moderates” are going to kill the bill is a joke. The bill has not moved any further to the center, has in fact moved further to the right, and yet these “moderates” are keeping mum. Yeah, sorry, but it’s about money at this point and just how much they’ll get before their fold.

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Mattand  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:22:23am

re: #140 I cannot.

Welp, I didn’t think it was possible, but I now know of a group that is worse than MRAs, PUAs, and GamerGaters.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:23:30am

re: #126 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s what Ann Coulter Tweeted about Dr. Dao being dragged from the United flight==>

Ah, the immigration angle. Maybe Coulter can prove that the Delta pilots or crew were illegals so she can whine about that. //

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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:23:32am

re: #128 Targetpractice

And let’s not forget that for the past week, the wingnuts have been floating the idea that the whole meeting was a set-up by the DNC/Obama. So which was it: A set-up or a legitimate meeting that anybody would have taken? Can’t be both.

In wingnut world it can be both…or neither. It’s whatever they determine it needs to be.

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Mattand  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:24:29am

re: #141 ObserverArt

I don’t think it will pass. So I am going to be that somebody.

Have you contacted any Senators and asked them to vote no?

I did think about writing Collins in ME; I was composing a letter in my head to her while walking the dog last night. Thinking I need to jot that down and send it to Capito in WV, instead.

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Targetpractice  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:24:30am

re: #139 Mattand

Oh, fuck Joe Scarborough. Seriously, the only reason he’s on this “Lookit me, I’m rejecting Trump!” tear is because Donnie was mean to him and Mika. Seriously, this is the only reason they are doing this dance.

I can’t be the only one noticing this.

To give you an idea of just how self-serving this “condemnation” is, he pegs the point at which the party went off the rails as…2001. Why then? Because he was retiring from office and he can blame all the shit that went sideways on Dubya. As if the pile of shit that was GOP politics in the 90s didn’t happen.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:24:34am

re: #144 Mattand

Welp, I didn’t think it was possible, but I now know of a group that is worse than MRAs, PUAs, and GamerGaters.

I followed David Futrelle’s “We Hunted The Mammoth” blog for a while, which tracks these garbage creatures and their vomits, but then decided I had better things to do with my time.

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Mattand  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:26:12am

re: #149 The Vicious Babushka

I followed David Futrelle’s “We Hunted The Mammoth” blog for a while, which tracks these garbage creatures and their vomits, but then decided I had better things to do with my time.

I pop in from time to time. David’s writing makes it worth it.

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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:26:29am

re: #136 Mattand

Just reading about the Senate Trumpcare bill over at TPM. I keep going back to Josh Marshall’s axiom that moderates always cave, and that all of the fuss they’re raising right now is merely theater.

God knows I’m as far from a political expert as one can get. Thing is, I keep looking at the news reports saying “Two Senators are Confirmed ‘No’, Who Will Be the Third???”, when, IMO, the headline should be “GOP in Senate All but Assured That Their Horrible ‘Fuck the Poor and Everyone Who Isn’t Us’ Bill Soon to Pass.” (TPM is just as guilty of this as everyone else, it should be noted.)

I mean, seriously, does anyone think this won’t pass? Think about it: most of the Republican Senators are literally looking at the damage the bill will cause, almost immediately, and going, “Yeah, that’s fine.”

These monsters are still so fucking driven by trying to fuck over Obama. Plus, they looked at Trump, knowing what a cancer he would be on this country, and were like “Don’t care. This is how we ram through all of our radical, regressive policies.”

I really do try to keep a positive attitude about all of this stuff, but this fucking game of “Will they or won’t they?” is bullshit. They wlll. They’re Republicans: no matter how fucked up the policy is, they fall in line.

Their general attitude of “Party before country” makes as big as a terrorist group as ISIS, and one that is doing way, way damage than ISIS ever will.

No one cares about the poor. Unfortunately, that’s the case with almost all middle class folks, too. What that headline should read is “No Healthcare for Anyone: Employer Healthcare About to be a Thing of the Past” for that might get people’s attention. They do not realize the impact to THEM which is all most people care about. Societal fabric be damned.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:26:37am

The real threshold was the release of the “Grab em by the pu**y tape”. Once enough MAGAidiots heard that and still said, “Yeah, but MAGA!” it’s been a doubling down on whatever atrocities DJT was found to have said or acted upon. Everything now must be defended, even if it means agreeing with Trump and his criminal sons that the country must be destroyed for the sake of destroying it.

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makeitstop  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:26:55am

re: #141 ObserverArt

I don’t think it will pass. So I am going to be that somebody.

Have you contacted any Senators and asked them to vote no?

I agree with you.

I think the final version of healthcare will be pretty much the ACA - but no one will ever call it that again, especially not Republicans.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:27:21am

re: #143 Targetpractice

The “will they or won’t they” bit is mostly theater, meant to pressure the party leadership into sweetening the pot. They’re going to cave, it’s just a matter of Yertle finding their thirty pieces of silver. And those who can’t be bought, he figures will vote for the bill just to avoid getting challenged back at home next year. The idea that the “moderates” are going to kill the bill is a joke. The bill has not moved any further to the center, has in fact moved further to the right, and yet these “moderates” are keeping mum. Yeah, sorry, but it’s about money at this point and just how much they’ll get before their fold.

Think about this. They’ve got now many of their own constituents and even the insurance industry yelling at them to stop. But the perverse ideology that binds them to that scary core base is so strong that they can’t stop themselves. It’s sickening.

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Mattand  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:27:33am

re: #148 Targetpractice

To give you an idea of just how self-serving this “condemnation” is, he pegs the point at which the party went off the rails as…2001. Why then? Because he was retiring from office and he can blame all the shit that went sideways on Dubya. As if the pile of shit that was GOP politics in the 90s didn’t happen.

LOL, yeah, because he was part of it.

And as you point out, he’s waving 2001 as the jumping off point, but you just know his voting history is straight GOP in the intervening 16 years.

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Mattand  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:31:32am

re: #152 Sir John Barron

The real threshold was the release of the “Grab em by the pu**y tape”. Once enough MAGAidiots heard that and still said, “Yeah, but MAGA!” it’s been a doubling down on whatever atrocities DJT was found to have said or acted upon. Everything now must be defended, even if it means facing the fact that Trump and his family are out to burn the whole country down.

That one still kill me. It happened around my birthday and I honestly thought it was the greatest present I ever received. Like a fucking idiot, I figured even the most diehard troglodyte Republican would look at that and go “Goddamn, if I vote for this creep, what kind of message am I sending to all of the women in my life?”

I didn’t cout on conservative, college educated women being okay with a rapist in the White House, because their love of Fox News wiped whatever education they earned.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:32:53am

re: #139 Mattand

Oh, fuck Joe Scarborough. Seriously, the only reason he’s on this “Lookit me, I’m rejecting Trump!” tear is because Donnie was mean to him and Mika. Seriously, this is the only reason they are doing this dance.

I can’t be the only one noticing this.

Yup. x2. He helped create the monster in the White House. He normalized his behavior for 18 months with bullshit false equivalences and “Hillary is so unpopular” and “Trump supporters feel left behind and are hurting”. Joe and the entire GOP deserve this shit. Trump is exactly what the Left predicted decades ago when the GOP surrendered themselves to am hate radio.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:33:47am

ON THIS DAY

On July 17, 1975, an Apollo spaceship docked with a Soyuz spacecraft in orbit in the first superpower linkup of its kind.

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Teukka  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:35:30am

Quote of the day:

“Well the laws of Australia prevail in Australia, I can assure you of that. The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia,” [redacted] said.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:37:12am

re: #156 Mattand

That one still kill me. It happened around my birthday and I honestly thought it was the greatest present I ever received. Like a fucking idiot, I figured even the most diehard troglodyte Republican would look at that and go “Goddamn, if I vote for this creep, what kind of message am I sending to all of the women in my life?”

I didn’t cout on conservative, college educated women being okay with a rapist in the White House, because their love of Fox News wiped whatever education they earned.

The Hillary-hate had been ramped up to such a degree that enough people decided that anything could be countenanced as long as it kept the Clintons out of the WH. Vote for DJT and his constant stream of bigoted insults and vulgarity? Sure. Vote for and continue to defend DJT even after it becomes clear that he colluded with Russia to win the election? Sure, why not, if we can beat Hillary and MAGA! Continue defending DJT as he attacks everyone and every institution, including the US Intelligence Community and the Secret Service (DEEP STATE!!)? Well, they’ve gone this far, no going back. With each concession a little bit more of their souls disappear forever.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:38:14am

re: #25 BeachDem

Since I’m reasonably sure she’s human it has to be her destination, and there’s never a round trip once you get there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:45:27am

re: #152 Sir John Barron

The real threshold was the release of the “Grab em by the pu**y tape”. Once enough MAGAidiots heard that and still said, “Yeah, but MAGA!” it’s been a doubling down on whatever atrocities DJT was found to have said or acted upon. Everything now must be defended, even if it means agreeing with Trump and his criminal sons that the country must be destroyed for the sake of destroying it.

DT campaigned as the anti politician. That allowed him to get away with things that would have sunk any mainstream politician’s campaign or even career. And his supporters cheered him on because of it and because he caused outrage and disbelief.

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TedStriker  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:45:42am

re: #111 wheat-dogg

Dench as M lasted three movies. Skyfall was her last appearance.

Dench-as-M lasted way more than three Bond movies, she was in the role for eight of them (all of the Brosnan movies and all of the Craig movies through Skyfall, plus a cameo in Spectre), putting her in that role for 20 years.

As a matter of fact, other than Desmond Llewelyn (Q), I do believe Dench played her role in the Bond franchise the longest.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:46:22am

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The cop’s body cameras were off. Quelle surprise.

The bitching in the squad rooms is going to be along the lines of, “Why are they raising a stink about this? We’ve killed lots of people and no one important has complained before.”

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:47:09am

re: #53 Sir John Barron

As long as they don’t look down.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:47:18am

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

The cop’s body cameras were off. Quelle surprise.

The bitching in the squad rooms is going to be along the lines of, “Why are they raising a stink about this? We’ve killed lots of people and no one important has complained before.”

White woman.

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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:48:05am

re: #140 I cannot.

Holy shit.

[Embedded content]

Incel is the dickhead term for “Involuntary Celibate”, that is, guys who can’t get laid because they’re insufferable assholes.

The responses!

Audience Clapping

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:48:21am

re: #114 Stanley Sea

Good morning!

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If Donny Jr and/or Son-in-Law are making the list, I’m sure no one will be left off.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:48:36am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:49:36am

Caitlyn Jenner Is Considering a Senate Run

And the downward spiral of American politics continues. Another self-loathing republican.

During the campaign, Jenner said with a straight face that “Trump seems to be very much for women” and that he “backed the LGBT community.” She has since been very disappointed that the administration pretty much immediately rolled back protection for trans students, and sees herself an agent of change for the party.

She hopes that the next generation of Americans “can change the perception of the Republican ​P​arty and make it the party of equality​.” Not an easy task, to say the least.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:52:09am

re: #170 Dr. Matt

Caitlyn Jenner Is Considering a Senate Run

And the downward spiral of American politics continues. Another self-loathing republican.

She’s delusional.

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Targetpractice  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:52:23am

re: #170 Dr. Matt

Caitlyn Jenner Is Considering a Senate Run

And the downward spiral of American politics continues. Another self-loathing republican.

*sigh*

If I had a dollar for every Republican hopeful who styled themself as an “agent of change”…

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Targetpractice  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:55:45am

FNC, recognizing that Don Jr has become a liability to their God-Emperor, begins the case for throwing him under the bus:

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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:55:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:59:46am

re: #173 Targetpractice

FNC, recognizing that Don Jr has become a liability to their God-Emperor, begins the case for throwing him under the bus:

So they want to get rid of everyone close to him but leave him in place because he is demonstrably clueless.

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dangerman  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:01:50am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

DT campaigned as the anti politician. That allowed him to get away with things that would have sunk any mainstream politician’s campaign or even career. And his supporters cheered him on because of it and because he caused outrage and disbelief.

and now he’s governing as the ‘anti president’

non-leader, position-less, agenda-less, uninformed, unengaged

blatantly breaking/ignoring all the tacit (and actual) rules and protocols of the office

while enriching himself and his extended family by siphoning government money

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Jay C  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:01:53am

re: #170 Dr. Matt

Caitlyn Jenner Is Considering a Senate Run

And the downward spiral of American politics continues. Another self-loathing republican.

Where? In California? No biggie, Caitlyn can go file and get on the ballot with the rest of the dozen or so cranks, nutters and publicity-hounds* who usually clutter up the voting lists every two years. Good freakin’ luck (though I’m sure she’ll get at least a 5-digit total).

* said desription may also apply to “regular” Democrats and Republicans: it IS California, after all….

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Birth Control Works  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:04:31am

So much cuteness in this Zooborns post, I can’t pick just one to share here. So click and see them all!!!

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Targetpractice  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:05:28am

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So they want to get rid of everyone close to him but leave him in place because he is demonstrably clueless.

What they want was pretty obvious months ago: A meat puppet who will be guided around by party insiders who will use him as little more than a hand capable of holding a pen. They expected another Reagan or Dubya presidency, what they didn’t account for was that the monster would develop a mind of its own.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:05:34am

re: #163 TedStriker

Moneypenny.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:06:24am

OK, just one:

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Birth Control Works  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:09:02am

I have so many projects going at once, I can’t decide how to proceed. So I do nothing.

Ever have this problem?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:09:42am

re: #173 Targetpractice

FNC, recognizing that Don Jr has become a liability to their God-Emperor, begins the case for throwing him under the bus:

Oh dear, even Napolatino has gone off the reservation.

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TedStriker  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:10:42am

re: #180 lawhawk

Moneypenny.

Ahh, the original (Lois Maxwell), from Dr. No through A View to a Kill.

Missed that one.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:10:58am

Always round the figure up, the rubes will never check, nor will they believe detractors when told they are erroneous
I was going to put that in Trump Gold. But, he doesn’t speak in that manner.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:11:32am

re: #147 Mattand

I did think about writing Collins in ME; I was composing a letter in my head to her while walking the dog last night. Thinking I need to jot that down and send it to Capito in WV, instead.

If you complain and do nothing about it, what really are you doing?

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Semper Fi  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:15:03am

re: #182 Birth Control Works

I have so many projects going at once, I can’t decide how to proceed. So I do nothing.

Ever have this problem?

Make a list then, “attack.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:15:08am

re: #179 Targetpractice

What they want was pretty obvious months ago: A meat puppet who will be guided around by party insiders who will use him as little more than a hand capable of holding a pen. They expected another Reagan or Dubya presidency, what they didn’t account for was that the monster would develop a mind limbic system of its own.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:15:09am

Living Another Day, Thanks to Grandparents Who Couldn’t Sleep

You may not look forward to sleeping less as you get older. But maybe it wouldn’t seem as bad if you knew it once played an important role in human survival.

A new study, published Tuesday in Proceedings of the Royal Society B, suggests that the way sleep patterns change with age may be an evolutionary adaptation that helped our ancestors survive the night by ensuring one person in a community was awake at all times. The researchers called this phenomenon the “poorly sleeping grandparent hypothesis,” suggesting that an older member of a community who woke before dawn might have been crucial to spotting the threat of a hungry predator while younger people were still asleep. It may explain why people slept in mixed-age groups through much of human history.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:15:35am

re: #188 Semper Fi

Make a list then, “attack.”

tried that.

problem is that I’m traveling this weekend —travels always throw me. It’s a total interruption.

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Semper Fi  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:15:52am

re: #188 Semper Fi

Make a list then, “attack.”

#1- to be specific

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Birth Control Works  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:16:23am

re: #192 Semper Fi

#1- to be specific

#1 would be coffee

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:22:01am

re: #182 Birth Control Works

I have so many projects going at once, I can’t decide how to proceed. So I do nothing.

Ever have this problem?

Yes… it’s information overload… I’ve gotten better at it, and structuring my time helped out immensely. Break project down into constituent parts and make them into chunks that make sense.

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Semper Fi  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:23:35am

re: #193 Birth Control Works

#1 would be coffee

You’re not helping…so it must be motivation/depression/anxiety/a recent loss/nobody loves me syndrome/not appreciated/need a vacation/you had coffee but no breakfast/too tired/or insufficient planning. I’m not qualified to help with the foregoing so good luck.

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wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:24:03am

re: #193 Birth Control Works

#1 would be coffee

Write it down. There! You have a list!

Might want to add a few things. Draw a line after ‘coffee’ and title that section, ‘for when we get back’.

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wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:27:12am

re: #195 Semper Fi

You’re not helping…so it must be motivation/depression/anxiety/a recent loss/nobody loves me syndrome/not appreciated/need a vacation/you had coffee but no breakfast/too tired/or insufficient planning. I’m not qualified to help with the foregoing so good luck.

I am also unqualified, except to serve as an example of what not to do. Except I did have coffee and breakfast.

/crosses off another

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dangerman  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:28:56am

re the healthcare ‘repeal’ - The Atlantic / Norm Ornstein

By every past standard, and every logical standard of behavior in a representative democracy, this bill should be dead. It is not. Why not?

Republicans have no easy way out of a box canyon on health policy of their own making.

Republicans had no real interest in actually fixing the health-care system. This bill is far more a delivery system for tax cuts for the rich, paid for by cutting Medicaid.

Republicans don’t fear the backlash from a bill that will hurt lots of people, including their own voters.

Put it all together, and what emerges is a truly disturbing picture of a failed legislative process built on a deep distortion of representative democracy. A thoroughly partisan, ill-conceived and ill-considered bill, slapped together without the input of experts or stakeholders, done not to improve the health care system but to aid plutocrats, crafted in a fashion that will hurt millions and millions of Americans, by lawmakers doing whatever they can to avoid interacting with their own constituents.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:37:38am

re: #195 Semper Fi

You’re not helping…so it must be motivation/depression/anxiety/a recent loss/nobody loves me syndrome/not appreciated/need a vacation/you had coffee but no breakfast/too tired/or insufficient planning. I’m not qualified to help with the foregoing so good luck.

gah! It’s still morning for me. Cobwebs should be clearing soon.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:39:25am

re: #196 wrenchwench

Write it down. There! You have a list!

Might want to add a few things. Draw a line after ‘coffee’ and title that section, ‘for when we get back’.

Yeah, priortizing is a problem. One of the projects is cleaning up a selection of old photos in photoshop and putting them together in a book for xmas presents. I can’t decide if I want to make the books myself (meaning I can create the cover and sew the signatures myself —make a slipcover box for them) or order books from various websites. The first is ALOT more work but I like controlling the final product.

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:40:23am

re: #166 Stanley Sea

White woman.

Plus upper middle class neighbor hood. Where good white folks are supposed to be “safe” from those who “serve & protect” the 1% only…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:42:55am

re: #201 William Lewis

Plus upper middle class neighbor hood. Where good white folks are supposed to be “safe” from those who “serve & protect” the 1% only…

You mean that your hood is 100% thug-free?

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:43:08am

re: #173 Targetpractice

FNC, recognizing that Don Jr has become a liability to their God-Emperor, begins the case for throwing him under the bus:

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Good. Because once Fox is in for looking into one of the Trumps, it might give some cover for some Republicans to start to agree. That might keep the heat on Donny Sr. and give Mueller some working space.

I am convinced that once they ALL start digging they are going to find a lot more than a President lying about a blowjob.

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Semper Fi  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:43:57am

re: #199 Birth Control Works

gah! It’s still morning for me. Cobwebs should be clearing soon.

One final note. If projects center around household duties the threat of an impending visit by relatives can work wonders.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:45:25am

I think this is good advice:

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:45:38am

re: #174 MsJ

MsJoanne @MsJoanne
Hey @cbsnews THIS is how you report heroism. apple.news
11:13 AM - 17 Jul 2017

It might be the honest way to report heroism.

But is it the best way to making money?

Angry wingnuts apparently drive more traffic. They went for the hits. They don’t care about honesty.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:46:13am

re: #204 Semper Fi

One final note. If projects center around household duties the threat of an impending visit by relatives can work wonders.

Yes, my husband and I often say we schedule dinner parties to keep the first floor clean.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:47:07am

The markets have been up ever since the election.

This is all that matters to US voters.

Short-term results … .

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:50:19am

re: #203 ObserverArt

I am convinced that once they ALL start digging they are going to find a lot more than a President lying about a blowjob.

“There is nothing illegal about (whatever the President is accused of)”

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:50:45am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You mean that your hood is 100% thug-free?

I have a neighbor who is native american, is a cop on the rez & flies the ugly “Blue Lives Matter” flag in front of his house. He doesn’t understand that those Blue Lives would happily take his too if he is ever in the wrong place at the wrong time. See St Louis & the black officer shot by a white officer recently.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:50:57am

OT: putting new strings on the tele I just stumbled on a new (to me) tuning: e-b-b-g#-a-a

give it a try. Lots of neat droning going on.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 9:58:50am

Shot:

Chaser:

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:03:50am

re: #210 William Lewis

I have a neighbor who is native american, is a cop on the rez & flies the ugly “Blue Lives Matter” flag in front of his house. He doesn’t understand that those Blue Lives would happily take his too if he is ever in the wrong place at the wrong time. See St Louis & the black officer shot by a white officer recently.

People live in an bubble of anger that clouds any reality. Until your neighbor is confronted with it directly it does not exist. His anger over BLM and any criticism of police is that bubble blocking his being able to figure it out.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:10:15am

re: #208 Birth Control Works

The markets have been up ever since the election.

This is all that matters to US voters.

Short-term results … .

Note quite. All that really matters to voters is that they have a job. If they have a job, they want politicians that promise to let them keep it. If they have lost their job, they want politicians that promise to give them back that job. Even if politicians can do neither.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:13:46am
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:14:26am

re: #98 wheat-dogg

I took out a small term life insurance policy for similar reasons. If I should croak while outside the USA, I don’t want my family to go into hock just to deal with my remains.

Life insurance for us oldsters is not cheap, I discovered.

Repatriation/medical evacuation insurance is a thing. Last I checked it was very cheap.

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dangerman  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:17:04am

re: #213 ObserverArt

People live in an unreal bubble of anger that clouds any reality. Until your neighbor is confronted with it directly it does not exist. His anger over BLM and any criticism of police is that bubble blocking his being able to figure it out.

kind of what i said here yesterday

something, somehow has to eventually hit them personally.

it has to hurt them somehow, be incontrovertibly true, and be clear who did it.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:17:12am
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allegro  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:18:38am

Kitten update…

Now at 4-1/2 weeks the teeny babies aren’t so teeny anymore. Growing so fast and have very distinct personalities. We can now announce genders: Princess Onyx and Little Lord Storm. They have pretty much mastered the litter box - weaning is proving more challenging. The Princess is doing pretty well with it, the Little Lord is quite the titty baby and INSISTS on that nipple. (Make your jokes at will.)

They are getting funner by the day - more coordinated and starting to get rowdy in play. The Princess is getting POUNCE down and it is hilarious. The Little Lord tries the swell-up-and-hop-sideways move but so far has knocked himself over trying the maneuver.

My days have improved significantly now that I’m not having to get up in the middle of the night for kitten feedings. Sleep is sooo good. Not getting a whole lot accomplished between kitten feedings/playtimes/clean-ups and all the neighbors knocking on my door to play with them but fuck it, I’ll have plenty of time for chores and projects soon enough. Too soon.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:19:32am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:21:36am

re: #208 Birth Control Works

The markets have been up ever since the election.

This is all that matters to US voters.

Short-term results … .

Yeah, although the markets went up under Obama, too, and he got very little credit for it. During the recent campaign, of course, the high stock market was deemed a “bubble” by the bankruptcy specialist soon to be our so called president.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:24:51am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

But remember: He’s “pro Life”

*spit*

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:25:53am

re: #208 Birth Control Works

The markets have been up ever since the election.

This is all that matters to US voters.

Short-term results … .

Corporations too. “Fuck doing the right thing, we need to increase 3rd quarter revenue!”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:26:08am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

I’m shocked Pence rose to the level of Governor. The only more shocking thing than Pence becoming VP is that orange goofball becoming president.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:29:01am

Trump and his deplorables’ favorite country at work:

Student facing beheading in Saudi Arabia was to attend Western Michigan

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:29:26am

re: #136 Mattand

Just reading about the Senate Trumpcare bill over at TPM. I keep going back to Josh Marshall’s axiom that moderates always cave, and that all of the fuss they’re raising right now is merely theater.

God knows I’m as far from a political expert as one can get. Thing is, I keep looking at the news reports saying “Two Senators are Confirmed ‘No’, Who Will Be the Third???”, when, IMO, the headline should be “GOP in Senate All but Assured That Their Horrible ‘Fuck the Poor and Everyone Who Isn’t Us’ Bill Soon to Pass.” (TPM is just as guilty of this as everyone else, it should be noted.)

I mean, seriously, does anyone think this won’t pass? Think about it: most of the Republican Senators are literally looking at the damage the bill will cause, almost immediately, and going, “Yeah, that’s fine.”

These monsters are still so fucking driven by trying to fuck over Obama. Plus, they looked at Trump, knowing what a cancer he would be on this country, and were like “Don’t care. This is how we ram through all of our radical, regressive policies.”

I really do try to keep a positive attitude about all of this stuff, but this fucking game of “Will they or won’t they?” is bullshit. They wlll. They’re Republicans: no matter how fucked up the policy is, they fall in line.

Their general attitude of “Party before country” makes as big as a terrorist group as ISIS, and one that is doing way, way damage than ISIS ever will.

We need one more “firm” senator. If you live in NV, contact Dean Heller. Repeatedly.

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:30:11am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

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The GOP isn’t a political party; it’s a criminal gang.

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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:30:23am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:31:27am

re: #225 Dr. Matt

Trump and his deplorables’ favorite country at work:

Student facing beheading in Saudi Arabia was to attend Western Michigan

Hillary Clinton Foundation Saudi Arabia something something!

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:31:28am

re: #218 Belafon

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:34:49am

I’m flying on Delta to LAX next week. Knowing that Ann Coulter will not be on my flight is worth the price.

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:34:51am

re: #228 Kragar

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HONK HONK!!!!11!1!!!!!

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jaunte  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:37:36am

Greg Abbott working hard to keep Texas playing field tilted.

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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:39:34am

re: #231 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:39:44am

re: #233 jaunte

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Greg Abbott working hard to keep Texas playing field tilted.

Abbott is such a dick.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:42:22am

re: #235 HappyWarrior

Abbott is such a dick.

Problem is he is just the tip of the dicks that are in the Republican party.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:42:40am

re: #234 Kragar

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Yep. Thanks Ann. I normally don’t care who I fly with it but maybe I’ll consider Delta because it will mean one less obnoxious idiot on board.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:42:55am

re: #236 ObserverArt

Problem is he is just the tip of the dicks that are in the Republican party.

Dicks dominate taht party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:43:51am

I do not know why Ann Coulter needs an airplane to fly anywhere…

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:44:17am

re: #231 The Vicious Babushka

I’m flying on Delta to LAX next week. Knowing that Ann Coulter will not be on my flight is worth the price.

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I wonder how much this constant bitching about an airplane seat costs in $.

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sagehen  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:45:05am

re: #218 Belafon

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:45:28am

re: #235 HappyWarrior

Abbott is such a dick.

He’s probably the worst thing to happen to Texans with disabilities in a long time.

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weave  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:45:33am

re: #86 Shropshire Slasher

Maybe Ann could ride Amtrak

Ah Yes, Amtrak…. yet another one of those things wingnuts bitch about that in reality blue states end up subsidizing red states over. (Amtrak is profitable in the northeast and loses money like mad in rural areas).

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:46:18am

When is Ann going to blame airlines issues on liberals??? She has to make the connection sometime or else she can’t turn this into a wingnut tirade and write a book about it.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:46:20am
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Interesting Times  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:50:26am

re: #234 Kragar

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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:51:32am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:52:15am

re: #234 Kragar

When they can no longer defend the utter failed shitshow of their choice for POTUS, their only chance of distraction and relevance is to pester an airline.

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Interesting Times  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:52:35am

File under, “Needs to become a thing”:

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jaunte  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:53:10am

re: #247 Kragar

The obvious solution is to reclassify miscarriages as abortions, and force everyone involved to pay for funerals.

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wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:53:52am

re: #243 weave

Ah Yes, Amtrak…. yet another one of those things wingnuts bitch about that in reality blue states end up subsidizing red states over. (Amtrak is profitable in the northeast and loses money like mad in rural areas).

They aren’t losing much at my nearest station: it’s a plywood shack with the plywood floor busted out (last I saw).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:54:17am

I think I’ll book my next flight on Delta…

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jaunte  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:55:15am

If Ann Coulter thinks it costs her $10,000 to set up flight reservations, she should probably hire an assistant.

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Targetpractice  Jul 17, 2017 • 10:57:05am

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

I do not know why Ann Coulter needs an airplane to fly anywhere…

Her broom is in the shop.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:02:31am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:03:34am

re: #253 jaunte

If Ann Coulter thinks it costs her $10,000 to set up flight reservations, she should probably hire an assistant.

Or a travel agent.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:03:53am

re: #254 Targetpractice

Her broom is in the shop.

Winner.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:05:18am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:05:22am

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

I do not know why Ann Coulter needs an airplane to fly anywhere…

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:09:30am

re: #126 The Vicious Babushka

Wow, that tweet really didn’t age well.

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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:11:34am
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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:12:18am

re: #233 jaunte

Greg Abbott working hard to keep Texas playing field tilted.

Vouchers were killed by rural areas. This will be as well. If there were only a way to get through to rural people and say “stop hating on minorities and we can work together to help all Texans.”

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:12:37am

re: #262 Kragar

That made me laugh out loud.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:13:12am

re: #264 Belafon

That made me laugh out loud.

Doctrix?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:13:13am

re: #258 lawhawk

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I think it will be over 50% eventually.

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makeitstop  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:13:49am

re: #253 jaunte

If Ann Coulter thinks it costs her $10,000 to set up flight reservations, she should probably hire an assistant.

It took precious time away from her other gig - kicking puppies for hire.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:14:28am

re: #267 makeitstop

It took precious time away from her other gig - kicking puppies for hire.

She’s up to 98 Dalmatians.

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jaunte  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:15:22am
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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:15:30am

re: #231 The Vicious Babushka

I’m flying on Delta to LAX next week. Knowing that Ann Coulter will not be on my flight is worth the price.

[Embedded content]

I see she’s still losing her shit over Delta. Good.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:17:42am

re: #263 Belafon

Vouchers were killed by rural areas. This will be as well. If there were only a way to get through to rural people and say “stop hating on minorities and we can work together to help all Texans.”

It really appears to be more of a money/taxes thinking than even pitting minorities against whites. I got the impression from his comment Texas would like a school system for the rich and one for everyone else. Of course, this is Abbott…so who knows.

Maybe the way to get the message out is Abbott and the rest don’t want your kids bettered with a good solid education, they want to keep you down and let the rich get all the good education.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:19:45am

re: #260 The Vicious Babushka

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Why does Kushner look like Sarah Huckabee Sanders? Ewwww.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:20:32am

re: #263 Belafon

Vouchers were killed by rural areas. This will be as well. If there were only a way to get through to rural people and say “stop hating on minorities and we can work together to help all Texans.”

That could fit on a bumper sticker, a BIG bumper sticker. But hey, it’s Texas!

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:22:25am

re: #271 ObserverArt

It really appears to be more of a money/taxes thinking than even pitting minorities against whites. I got the impression from his comment Texas would like a school system for the rich and one for everyone else. Of course, this is Abbott…so who knows.

Maybe the way to get the message out is Abbott and the rest don’t want your kids bettered with a good solid education, they want to keep you down and let the rich get all the good education.

Abbott and the really wealthy Texans would, but not so much the rest of the state. Earlier in the regular session, when vouchers were proposed, reps heard from just about everyone, and very heavily from rural areas, that vouchers were not wanted and should not be passed. This is because for a lot of areas, the school system is the major employer, the major baby sitter, and people do value a basic education. Vouchers died quickly.

I think ending Robin-hood will meet the same fate unless there’s a guarantee that rural schools receive comparable funding to what they get now.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:23:06am

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:24:04am

AUTOMATIC. BLOCKING. FUNCTION. TRIGGERED.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:24:39am

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:26:31am

Factitious: This Game Tests Your Ability to Spot Fake News

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:26:50am
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jaunte  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:27:54am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

“Life Deplorable.”

Self-diagnosed as an incurable misanthrope.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:30:23am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

Factitious: This Game Tests Your Ability to Spot Fake News

I identified fake news 87% of the time. The ones I got wrong involved incestual relationships in the south…guess preconceived notions played into that.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:31:28am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

AUTOMATIC. BLOCKING. FUNCTION. TRIGGERED.

[Embedded content]

“Christian…Deplorable”

LOL

NRA PRO-GUN PRO-LIFE — killing people and small animals awesome but pro-“life”

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:32:13am

Woman goes in for cataract surgery, has 27 contact lenses removed from her eye

17 were stuck together and 10 others were floating around.

A 67-year-old British woman, complaining of eye discomfort and dryness, was scheduled last November to have routine surgery to remove cataracts when doctors discovered a “blueish mass” of 17 disposable contact lenses stuck in one of her eyes. Upon further examination, they fished out 10 more, the case study reveals.

arstechnica.com

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:34:17am

re: #283 Skip Intro

Woman goes in for cataract surgery, has 27 contact lenses removed from her eye

arstechnica.com

“Oh, we’re supposed to take those out before putting new ones in?”

/

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:35:40am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:42:19am

re: #233 jaunte

Greg Abbott working hard to keep Texas playing field tilted.

Ah, well, the good old ‘commission’ approach should ensure nothing of much significance is accomplished.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:44:44am

re: #281 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I identified fake news 87% of the time. The ones I got wrong involved incestual relationships in the south…guess preconceived notions played into that.

I did 40% on round one, 100% on round 2 (paying better attention).

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:47:34am

re: #265 The Vicious Babushka

Doctrix?

The RC church recognizes important theological figures as “Doctor (Teacher) of the Church”. They do not offer a Latin feminine ending for the women so honored. (Four out of thirty-six—not bad, considering.)

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Lidane  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:54:09am
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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:57:18am

re: #163 TedStriker

Dench-as-M lasted way more than three Bond movies, she was in the role for eight of them (all of the Brosnan movies and all of the Craig movies through Skyfall, plus a cameo in Spectre), putting her in that role for 20 years.

As a matter of fact, other than Desmond Llewelyn (Q), I do believe Dench played her role in the Bond franchise the longest.

My bad. I was referring only to the Daniel Craig films.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:59:58am

re: #216 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Repatriation/medical evacuation insurance is a thing. Last I checked it was very cheap.

Yes it is.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:03:19pm

re: #285 FormerDirtDart

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Why do we have to be beholden to these southern cretins?

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sagehen  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:11:52pm

re: #216 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Repatriation/medical evacuation insurance is a thing. Last I checked it was very cheap.

It’s so cheap that American Express cardholders get it included for free as part of their annual dues.

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carey94tt  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:15:29pm

re: #278 Dr. Matt

Factitious: This Game Tests Your Ability to Spot Fake News

100%


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