Surprise! the Eighth Person in Trump Jr’s Meeting Is Identified, and He’s Connected to Russia. What Are the Odds?

What a shock
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Yesterday Donald Trump Jr’s mob-connected lawyer told the media that the eighth person in Junior’s meeting with a Russian lawyer was just a US citizen, not employed by the Russian government, so no big deal, right?

And once again, a day later we’re finding out that there’s quite a bit more to the story, because that person has now been identified — and he’s an employee of the Russian real estate company owned by Vladimir Putin crony Aras Agalarov.

That’s way different from being employed by the Russian government, right?

An American-based employee of a Russian real estate company took part in a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between a Russian lawyer and Donald Trump Jr., bringing to eight the number of known participants at the session that has emerged as a key focus of the investigation of the Trump campaign’s interactions with Russians.

Ike Kaveladze’s presence was confirmed by Scott Balber, an attorney for Emin and Aras Agalarov, the Russian developers who hosted the Trump-owned Miss Universe pageant in 2013. Balber said Kaveladze works for the Agalarovs’ company and attended as their representative.

Robert Mueller finds this interesting.

Balber said Tuesday that he received a phone call from a representative of Special Counsel Robert Mueller over the weekend asking if Kaveladze would agree to be interviewed. Balber said his client would cooperate. The request is the first public indication that Mueller’s team is investigating the meeting.

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285 comments

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weave  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:18:03am

It really annoys me when I order my burger plain and I get it with all the toppings on it anyway.

thehill.com

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Targetpractice  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:25:59am

Trumps caught in yet another lie. Quelle surprise.

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sagehen  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:26:44am
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Kragar  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:28:46am

So you’re saying the guy who is implicated in a Russian money laundering scheme can’t also care about international adoption restrictions?

How dare you sir!
/

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Kragar  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:29:39am
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Archangelus  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:33:34am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:33:48am
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Kragar  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:34:33am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:35:01am

re: #6 Kragar

Punish some of those who voted for him, too.

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Archangelus  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:35:07am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:35:45am

re: #2 Targetpractice

Trumps caught in yet another lie. Quelle surprise.

Trump has never failed. He has only been failed.

/

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:35:53am

re: #8 FormerDirtDart

They’ve tried for 8.5 years now to remove Obama’s name. The irony that impeaching Trump will do a far better job of removing him.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:36:50am

re: #11 Archangelus

“Getting 48-4 is impressive by any standard.”

So is that Winning, then?

/

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:37:58am

re: #1 weave

It really annoys me when I order my burger plain and I get it with all the toppings on it anyway.

thehill.com

Best idea I’ve heard all week. Except for defeating whichever healthcare bill the GOP is pushing.

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:39:14am
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Kragar  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:39:22am
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Interesting Times  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:39:36am

re: #1 weave

It really annoys me when I order my burger plain and I get it with all the toppings on it anyway.

thehill.com

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petesh  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:40:12am
Balber said Tuesday that he received a phone call from a representative of Special Counsel Robert Mueller over the weekend

I think this is the first confirmation we’ve had that Mueller is on it, and is in fact well ahead of the press — he knew who to call.

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Kragar  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:40:30am
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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:40:42am

re: #17 Kragar

Biggest Inauguration crowd ever.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:40:44am

re: #17 Kragar

It’s already been implemented, in fact. It gets rid of pre-existing conditions and will ensure 24 million more people.

/

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Archangelus  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:41:17am

re: #14 Sir John Barron

So is that Winning, then?

/

May this kind of ‘winning’ never end so long as the Trumpster Fire continues…

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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:41:36am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:42:47am
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Archangelus  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:43:04am

re: #20 Kragar

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Well reality is what it is in the end, so he was bound to get something right eventually…

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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:43:19am

re: #12 Sir John Barron

Trump has never failed. He has only been failed.

/

I think I’ve heard something similar in relation to God.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:44:45am
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Kragar  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:46:16am
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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:46:18am

“These are not just numbers on a page these are real people,”
[that cynical POS] McConnell said.
rawstory.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:46:50am

re: #30 Kragar

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But I thought Trump signed more bills than anyone else.//

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Archangelus  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:47:08am

re: #29 FormerDirtDart

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Well, there’s a photo that hasn’t aged well…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:47:56am

The thing I hate most is how often Trump has me nodding and giggling with people like Bill Kristol:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:48:08am

re: #31 jaunte

During a speech on the Senate floor Tuesday, McConnell said that it was sad that Democrats were celebrating the failure of the Republican Party’s bill. Neither McConnell nor President Donald Trump ever reached out to Democrats on the bill and Democrats refused to deal on a bill that would “repeal and replace Obamacare.” Instead, they have said that they prefer to “fix Obamacare.”

“These are not just numbers on a page these are real people,” McConnell said.

GFY, McConnell

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:48:47am

re: #30 Kragar

What’s the picture?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:48:54am

re: #34 Barefoot Grin

The thing I hate most is how often Trump has me nodding and giggling with people like Bill Kristol:

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Me too. And doing so makes hacks like Greenwald think we’re okay with them.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:49:01am

Here’s a bargaining position right out of Art of the Deal: If Trump, Pence and Sessions all quit, nobody goes to jail.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:49:25am

re: #32 HappyWarrior

But I thought Trump signed more bills than anyone else.//

He stiffed more bills than anyone else. Easily confused.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:50:05am

re: #35 Sir John Barron

During a speech on the Senate floor Tuesday, McConnell said that it was sad that Democrats were celebrating the failure of the Republican Party’s bill. Neither McConnell nor President Donald Trump ever reached out to Democrats on the bill and Democrats refused to deal on a bill that would “repeal and replace Obamacare.” Instead, they have said that they prefer to “fix Obamacare.”

I guess it’s OK for House Republicans to rally and celebrate outside the WH and spike the football when their shitty bill passed, huh, Mitch?

/

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:50:24am

Good thread:

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:50:46am

“Grummoxing”

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Targetpractice  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:51:01am

re: #31 jaunte

“These are not just numbers on a page these are real people,”
[that cynical POS] McConnell said.
rawstory.com

Real people you were prepared to grant the “freedom” to be unable to afford health insurance.

Fuck off with this “we really care” BS, Yertle.

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:51:04am

re: #30 Kragar

Drudge Front Page

Nothing better than watching conservatives get beaten by their own beloved media.

I await Drudge asking for his readers to vote the bums out. Who knows, it just might happen.

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:51:32am

re: #16 jaunte

[Embedded content] You also had *7 YEARS* to come up with a replacement and failed, spectacularly. Why should we believe 2 more will change that?

loser gambler thinking
my luck’s gotta change

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:52:02am

re: #43 Targetpractice

Real people you were prepared to grant the “freedom” to be unable to afford health insurance.

Fuck off with this “we really care” BS, Yertle.

He meant his rich donors who pay higher taxes to support Obamacare. They’re the real victims in all this. When you pray, pray a prayer for them.

//

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wheat-dogg  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:53:24am

re: #34 Barefoot Grin

i haz better one.

Instagram

Vice President Mike Pence laughs as President Donald Trump holds a baseball bat as they attend a Made in America product showcase event at the White House in Washington, July 17, 2017. REUTERS/Carlos Barria @carlosabarria #reuters #reutersphotos #trump #pence #baseball #whitehouse

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:53:24am

re: #44 ObserverArt

Nothing better than watching conservatives get beaten by their own beloved media.

I await Drudge asking for his readers to vote the bums out. Who knows, it just might happen.

Is Drudge reporting reality for once?

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:53:41am

re: #34 Barefoot Grin

The thing I hate most is how often Trump has me nodding and giggling with people like Bill Kristol:

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Pence again with the fawning eyes.

Then again, maybe he is drawing a bead on him.

Lookout Donny…Pence is out to get ya!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:54:16am

re: #48 wheat-dogg

i haz better one.

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God I see what my mom means now when she says she hates Pence’s stupid smirk.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:54:27am

Off camera with Huckabee.

I imagine the non-answer

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:54:29am

re: #1 weave

It really annoys me when I order my burger plain and I get it with all the toppings on it anyway.

thehill.com

“For years, when someone ordered a plain burger, I have always yelled out the order as as ‘nothing burger’ to my cooks, so I think that I actually invented the term,” Tabibian said.

you KNOW what’s gonna happen….

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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:54:56am

WE need to somehow separate the idea of comprehensive health care from the concept of insurance.

Insurance is Financial Risk Management.

What we want is National Managed Health Care.
(or some more appropriate moniker)

Pre-existing conditions and other conditions are terms of risk management.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:56:00am

re: #44 ObserverArt

Nothing better than watching conservatives get beaten by their own beloved media.

I await Drudge asking for his readers to vote the bums out. Who knows, it just might happen.

Maybe setting up a “Trump good, Congress bad” argument? (If they stay home for the midterms, Dems will do even better than I already think they might.)

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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:56:09am

re: #48 wheat-dogg

i haz better one.

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did he even play Youth Baseball?

college or high school sports?

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:56:30am

re: #16 jaunte

Because the Democrats will have to write it, obviously.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:56:36am

re: #52 Stanley Sea

Off camera with Huckabee.

I imagine the non-answer

[Sarah Hucks]The president knows his true supporters don’t need an apology from him and wouldn’t accept one were it to be offered, because the president’s true supporters know he can do no wrong.[/Sarah Hucks]

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:57:58am
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sagehen  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:58:11am

re: #36 Sir John Barron

What’s the picture?

McConnell and Ryan looking sad, Drudge headline “most unproductive congress in 164 years”

(since 1853)

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wheat-dogg  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:58:39am

re: #56 Birth Control Works

did he even play Youth Baseball?

college or high school sports?

He had a DH, I’m sure.

I reckon he played some sport while in that military school. Probably something suitably tony, like tennis or squash.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:58:42am

re: #56 Birth Control Works

did he even play Youth Baseball?

college or high school sports?

Yeah he played on his college baseball team, even with the bone spurs.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 11:59:38am

IIRC, we have sane gun owners here at LGF…..

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bratwurst  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:00:02pm

This is glorious! Of course, the chances of him engaging in any introspection is zero…but still:

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wheat-dogg  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:00:10pm

Given his facial expressions sitting in the big trucks and holding the bat, Trump probably has never outgrown childhood.

See also Charles Foster Kane.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:01:08pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah he played on his college baseball team, even with the bone spurs.

(Swoon) I’m so glad we finally have a president who played a real American sport and truly loves America!

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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:01:32pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:02:26pm

re: #60 sagehen

Drudge headline “most unproductive congress in 164 years”

McConnell/Ryan: Oh, we can do worse than this. Hold our beer…

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Amory Blaine  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:02:41pm

re: #24 Birth Control Works

Good read. Gives this acid tongued leftist something to think about.

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:03:43pm

re: #47 Sir John Barron

He meant his rich donors who pay higher taxes to support Obamacare. They’re the real victims in all this. When you pray, pray a prayer for them.

//

If I believed in God, my prayer would include the rich learning what God thinks of their money.

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Kragar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:04:29pm
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nines09  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:05:14pm

8th person at Donald Jr meeting revealed…..

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:05:25pm

re: #63 Stanley Sea

IIRC, we have sane gun owners here at LGF…..

And a number of us are vets.

Edit: As if no vet could ever be for gun control.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:05:30pm

Chait lays out well how over and over movement conservative ideology and “principle” makes them unfit to lead:

“In truth, it was never possible to reconcile public standards for a humane health-care system with conservative ideology. In a pure market system, access to medical care will be unaffordable for a huge share of the public. Giving them access to quality care means mobilizing government power to redistribute resources, either through direct tax and transfers or through regulations that raise costs for the healthy and lower them for the sick. Obamacare uses both methods, and both are utterly repugnant and unacceptable to movement conservatives. That commitment to abstract anti-government dogma, without any concern for the practical impact, is the quality that makes the Republican Party unlike right-of-center governing parties in any other democracy. In no other country would a conservative party develop a plan for health care that every major industry stakeholder calls completely unworkable.”

nymag.com

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:06:19pm

Seva Gunitsky
I think it’s justifiable for you to say that it seems impossibly convoluted, but I would say it’s still much simpler than this idea that there’s a global conspiracy designed to bring down democracy. I’m not saying the political dimension is unimportant — surely it is. But if we’re talking about the roots of the collusion, we have to look at where Trump’s links with Russia begin. And it begins with money. [These roots] don’t start with the election; they start with money, and namely Russian oligarch money.

Sean Illing
So walk me through the trail. Where does the money lead?

Seva Gunitsky
Again, this doesn’t start with the election; it starts with Russian oligarch money pouring into Trump’s real estate and casino businesses. Many of them Trump has been working with for years, well before he developed any serious political ambitions. And we’re not talking about small change here; we’re talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. Possibly even enough to keep Trump out of another bankruptcy.

Sean Illing
And we know this how, exactly?

Seva Gunitsky
We know because they’ve told us. We can talk about specific cases in a minute, but Donald Trump Jr. has already admitted the importance of Russian money to their business ventures. He said publicly in 2008 that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.” It doesn’t get much clearer than that.

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:09:17pm

re: #71 Kragar

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of all the things he didnt know and maybe figured he could learn ojt - the constitution, how legislation works, foreign policy, domestic policy, what the senate does (jk), how you behave and don’t.

the biggest thing i think he missed is that everyone would be watching his every move and commenting, critiquing and throwing his own words back at him - no matter what. brave face and all, inside even a man baby, there is no running from what everyone is telling you they think about you and your performance

he’s just plain hiding

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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:11:47pm

re: #73 Belafon

And a number of us are vets.

Edit: As if no vet could ever be for gun control.

Start typing.

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Kragar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:14:45pm
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sagehen  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:15:16pm

re: #70 Belafon

If I believed in God, my prayer would include the rich learning what God thinks of their money.

I do believe in God, but my prayers usually tend to “may he/she/they get what they deserve.”

Suitable for those I love, those I hate, and those I’m ambivalent about.

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:16:51pm

Calling out the schoolyard bully tactics of Greg Abbott and Dan Patrick.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:17:34pm
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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:17:45pm

re: #74 Barefoot Grin

…mobilizing government power to redistribute resources, either through direct tax and transfers or through regulations that raise costs
nymag.com

because they dont think past the pure, free, instant market of two parties agreeing on the price/cost for something right now.

any future macro cost factor - health care/insurance, climate change, infrastructure / gas taxes for future improvements - requires some body (government or not) to determine what those numbers are, how they are justified and enforce tacking them on (presumably equitably) and being paid over and escrowed some how.

the two parties are micro so they won’t.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:18:24pm

re: #80 jaunte

Calling out the schoolyard bully tactics of Greg Abbott and Dan Patrick.

I feel bad for the good people of Texas who have to put up with this insufferable pair.

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:19:22pm

re: #74 Barefoot Grin

… That commitment to abstract anti-government dogma, without any concern for the practical impact, is the quality that makes the Republican Party unlike right-of-center governing parties in any other democracy. In no other country would a conservative party develop a plan for health care that every major industry stakeholder calls completely unworkable.”

nymag.com

as i think i said last thread - nobody wanted this

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Interesting Times  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:21:05pm

re: #83 Sir John Barron

I feel bad for the good people of Texas who have to put up with this insufferable pair.

Well…

We didn’t vote because it wouldn’t make a difference… -_-
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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:21:43pm

re: #80 jaunte

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Calling out the schoolyard bully tactics of Greg Abbott and Dan Patrick.

Read the whole thing here. mystatesman.com

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:21:45pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

Start typing.

I will at home.

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:21:46pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:21:56pm

re: #75 MsJ

Money laundering is at the bottom of all this. My guess? The Trump Organization has been knowingly aiding and abetting Russian oligarchs in money laundering for at the least the last decade using real estate transactions and shell corporations - in return, a piece of the action ($$$).

Common white-collar crime, to be honest.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:23:17pm

re: #89 Dr Lizardo

Money laundering is at the bottom of all this. My guess? The Trump Organization has been knowingly aiding and abetting Russian oligarchs in money laundering for at the least the last decade using real estate transactions and shell corporations - in return, a piece of the action ($$$).

Common white-collar crime, to be honest.

“So what? Is there a LAW against this? What about Clinton Foundation money-laundering? Anybody would money launder for the Russians if asked. Donald Trump is just way smarter than you!”

/

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steve_davis  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:23:42pm

re: #4 Birth Control Works

much needed cuteness:

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Golden Retrievers are basically Hippie Surfer Dudes. I passed an old gray fellow who was hanging out in the back of his boss’s pick-up truck at Walmart the other day. He just had absolutely no issue with dozens of Walmart shoppers wandering by him. Hell, they make me nervous. But he was just very chill. Wouldn’t have been surprised if he’d offered me a hit of whatever he had going back there contributing to his mellowness. Of course, golden retrievers just have a kind of permanent, genetic buzz going on all the time.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:23:53pm

re: #85 Interesting Times

Well…

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Because Democrats and Republicans are all alike.

/

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Kragar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:24:34pm
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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:24:57pm

re: #81 FormerDirtDart

Well, that’s one way to get rid of student debt. :-)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:25:13pm

re: #93 Kragar

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I definitely think that’s a possibility.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:25:15pm

re: #69 Amory Blaine

Good read. Gives this acid tongued leftist something to think about.

“The Democratic Party reminds me that “labor” is an expense on the Income Statement and are my neighbors, my relatives, and people in my community. We have to lift them up too. If their jobs go away, we have a moral obligation to help them find a new job through retraining and fostering new enterprises.”

MORE TO THE POINT —You and I are “Labor”. Working American’s NOT Peasants or Serfs.

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:25:35pm

re: #83 Sir John Barron

I feel bad for the good people of Texas who have to put up with this insufferable pair.

Many of the good people of Texas voted in that insufferable pair.

Just sayin’.

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sagehen  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:25:53pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:26:37pm

re: #84 dangerman

as i think i said last thread - nobody wanted this

A senior editor for the Washington Free Beacon, interviewed on NPR this morning, said that Republicans just can’t do healthcare well, then explained he meant that it is always to their disadvantage politically. What he really meant is the flip-side argument about “redistribution.” They have trouble articulating their position that redistribution is anathema to the free market and that eventually the market will dictate who gets what for how much given [now that the ACA has normalized expectations of coverage for nearly everyone].

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:26:50pm

re: #89 Dr Lizardo

Money laundering is at the bottom of all this. My guess? The Trump Organization has been knowingly aiding and abetting Russian oligarchs in money laundering for at the least the last decade using real estate transactions and shell corporations - in return, a piece of the action ($$$).

Common white-collar crime, to be honest.

“There was no money-laundering.”

“OK, there was some money laundering but it didn’t involve the Trump Campaign.”

“OK, the Trump Campaign did a little money laundering with the Russians, but not very much.”

“OK, as I’ve always said, I’m going to be completely transparent, yeah our whole campaign was a Russian money laundering scam. But we won, so it was OK.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:27:39pm

Anyone else not surprised that the Trumps seem to have absolutely zero ties with any business/government people from actual allied countries?

Canada. England. Germany. France. Australia. Etc.

Every single one of their dealings are with shady Russians.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:28:08pm

re: #93 Kragar

i.e. wasn’t dirt on Clinton, but was dirt on Trump?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:28:54pm

re: #102 Sir John Barron

i.e. wasn’t dirt on Clinton, but was dirt on Trump?

That’s how I read it, yes.

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:28:58pm

re: #93 Kragar

The pee tapes are real.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:29:37pm

re: #81 FormerDirtDart

Poor Betsy.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:29:46pm

Of course FOX would bring in Mark Fuhrman

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:29:48pm

re: #102 Sir John Barron

i.e. wasn’t dirt on Clinton, but was dirt on Trump?

Back off on Ukraine, give us our two compounds, and lift the sanctions on drilling or we’ll release the pee tapes.

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:30:58pm

re: #108 Birth Control Works

Bible Belt leads the nation in consumption of gay porn

Oppo research.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:31:34pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart

Of course FOX would bring in Mark Fuhrman

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Hannity needed another racist to suck off I guess.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:31:45pm
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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:32:03pm

re: #96 Birth Control Works

MORE TO THE POINT —You and I are “Labor”. Working American’s NOT Peasants or Serfs.

As an aside, my husband did work in South Africa during apartheid. They got a PO for some stuff he sells and when they did investigatory work into financing, they got financial data from the company. They had two lines for labor:

Cost of Labor
Cost of Blacks

It shocked him to his core and is something he has never forgotten.

He said fuck em and didn’t go through with the sale.

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:32:15pm

Man, Plan C didn’t last very fuckin’ long, did it?

I heard Collins come out almost immediately against it. McConnell is the best Majority Leader EVER!!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:32:16pm

re: #107 darthstar

When the pee tapes are “leaked”, suddenly a president’s personal sexual life should be of no concern to us.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:32:27pm

If we just keep saying stuff it will be accepted as truth…

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:32:59pm

re: #114 GlutenFreeJesus

When the pee tapes are “leaked”, suddenly a president’s personal sexual life should be of no concern to us.

I have no concerns about his sexual life. He can let anyone he wants pee all over him. I just don’t want his political life to be a part of mine…and right now it is.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:33:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:33:26pm

re: #115 FormerDirtDart

If we just keep saying stuff it will be accepted as truth…

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Hahahaha excuse me but hahaha. Oh wait, she’s serious.

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:34:07pm

re: #99 Barefoot Grin

…They have trouble articulating their position that redistribution is anathema to the free market and that eventually the market will dictate who gets what for how much given [now that the ACA has normalized expectations of coverage for nearly everyone].

sure - because current redistribution to plan for future obligations *is* anathema to the instant, pure free market.

and yes, unregulated, eventually the market will dictate who gets what. and it’ll do it in constant chaos and with tremendous, dire, and fatal costs.

but hey - free market

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:34:24pm

LOL at the new Drudge Headline:

TRUMP CERTIFIES IRAN DEAL

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:34:34pm

re: #112 MsJ

As an aside, my husband did work in South Africa during apartheid. They got a PO for some stuff he sells and when they did investigatory work into financing, they got financial data from the company. They had two lines for labor:

Cost of Labor
Cost of Blacks

It shocked him to his core and is something he has never forgotten.

He said fuck em and didn’t go through with the sale.

It wasn’t that long ago. I was in school when Mandela finally got released.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:34:37pm

re: #115 FormerDirtDart

grifty mcgrifterson

That’s gold, Jerry, GOLD!

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:35:12pm

re: #116 darthstar

I have no concerns about his sexual life. He can let anyone he wants pee all over him. I just don’t want his political life to be a part of mine…and right now it is.

The issue comes in when he wants to piss on all of US.

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:35:16pm

re: #101 GlutenFreeJesus

Anyone else not surprised that the Trumps seem to have absolutely zero ties with any business/government people from actual allied countries?

Canada. England. Germany. France. Australia. Etc.

Every single one of their dealings are with shady Russians.

no one sane would consider loaning to them

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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:35:20pm

re: #116 darthstar

I have no concerns about his sexual life. He can let anyone he wants pee all over him. I just don’t want his political life to be a part of mine…and right now it is.

as long as it’s consensual!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:35:33pm

Transgender woman trolls Gov. Greg Abbot (R-Tex.)
huffingtonpost.com

She posed with Governor Abbot in the state legislature for a photograph (in the article), which is now going viral on Facebook and was shown on CBS.

She points out if the governor can’t tell who the trans people are, how would the potty police?

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:35:37pm

I don’t believe the grossly exhibitionistic Trump would be deterred by a pee tape. The leverage has to be something more dangerous to his standing than that.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:35:54pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart

Of course FOX would bring in Mark Fuhrman

OJ’s parole hearing I assume?

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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:36:09pm

re: #109 darthstar

Oppo research.

???

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:36:57pm
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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:37:15pm

re: #100 Sir John Barron

“There was no money-laundering.”

“OK, there was some money laundering but it didn’t involve the Trump Campaign.”

“OK, the Trump Campaign did a little money laundering with the Russians, but not very much.”

“OK, as I’ve always said, I’m going to be completely transparent, yeah our whole campaign was a Russian money laundering scam. But we won, so it was OK.”

GGT pat’s herself on back. Did I call the Money Laundering racket or what?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:37:15pm

re: #104 darthstar

The pee tapes are real.

So what? Is their a LAW against that?!! Also Clintons have murdered people!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:37:36pm

re: #112 MsJ

As an aside, my husband did work in South Africa during apartheid. They got a PO for some stuff he sells and when they did investigatory work into financing, they got financial data from the company. They had two lines for labor:

Cost of Labor
Cost of Blacks

It shocked him to his core and is something he has never forgotten.

He said fuck em and didn’t go through with the sale.

For the first 60 or so years the US ran the Panama Canal, it maintained two payrolls—Silver and Gold. Originally, the payrolls were made in coinage of those species. American employees were Gold, local hires were paid (a lot less) in silver, usually Columbian.

thesilverpeopleheritage.wordpress.com

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:37:40pm

re: #24 Birth Control Works

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That is a great read!! Very heartening to see a few folks coming to their senses and saying goodbye to the Party of Hate. Hope this translates into a Democratic landslide next year.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:38:23pm

re: #91 steve_davis

Golden Retrievers are basically Hippie Surfer Dudes. I passed an old gray fellow who was hanging out in the back of his boss’s pick-up truck at Walmart the other day. He just had absolutely no issue with dozens of Walmart shoppers wandering by him. Hell, they make me nervous. But he was just very chill. Wouldn’t have been surprised if he’d offered me a hit of whatever he had going back there contributing to his mellowness. Of course, golden retrievers just have a kind of permanent, genetic buzz going on all the time.

teehee!

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:38:23pm

re: #108 Birth Control Works

Bible Belt leads the nation in consumption of gay porn

No comment needed.

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sagehen  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:38:25pm

re: #113 darthstar

Man, Plan C didn’t last very fuckin’ long, did it?

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I heard Collins come out almost immediately against it. McConnell is the best Majority Leader EVER!!!

Gosh. I’ll bet now McConnel is thinking “probably should have had a woman in that working group…”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:39:05pm

re: #120 b.d.

LOL at the new Drudge Headline:

Thought the Iran Deal was the worst deal ever and that Trump would rip it up as soon as he took the oath of office?

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:39:08pm
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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:39:53pm

re: #129 Birth Control Works

???

They only watch gay porn so they know what to pray for/against…

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:40:56pm

re: #137 sagehen

Gosh. I’ll bet now McConnel is thinking “probably should have had a woman in that working group…”

He’s probably thinking he’ll never be able to beat that n— Obama.

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Targetpractice  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:41:20pm

So yeah, one thing that doesn’t really seem to get touched on by the media in the wake of Trumpcare’s failure is that the GOP’s legislative agenda for the year is pretty much KIA. Too many moderates in the House stuck their necks out on this bill on the promise that the Senate would “fix” it, meaning support for further conservative-heavy bills will be light to non-existent. Tax reform is basically dead for the year, and you can be sure there will be no budget signed either. Any hope for a major legislative victory before the fall just got thrown into a ditch and two bullets put in its head.

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:42:12pm

re: #141 darthstar

He’s probably thinking he’ll never be able to beat that n— Obama.

Because at the end of the day it’s good ole fashioned racism that drives McConnell…he still feels like Obama was an affront on the US.

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:42:25pm

re: #130 jaunte

OMG that FB page. SWOOOOOON! Such cute doggies.

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:43:22pm

re: #144 MsJ

America’s Dogs Want More Visitors!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:44:12pm

re: #107 darthstar

Back off on Ukraine, give us our two compounds, and lift the sanctions on drilling or we’ll release the pee tapes.

More like, “….we’ll release the audio/video we have of you agreeing to launder money for who you knew damn well were mafiosi. You’ll be looking at 10 years in the slammer and asset forfeiture.”

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:45:04pm

re: #140 darthstar

They only watch gay porn so they know what to pray for/against…

lol!! That makes so much sense.

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:45:55pm

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

More like, “….we’ll release the audio/video we have of you agreeing to launder money for who you knew damn well were mafiosi. You’ll be looking at 10 years in the slammer and asset forfeiture.”

I suspect this is the more likely scenario…

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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:47:12pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:47:59pm

re: #148 darthstar

I suspect this is the more likely scenario…

Yeah, same here - I think that’s the kompromat. And they’d send it straight to Mueller with a CC to the NY Attorney General’s office.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:48:33pm

re: #149 Birth Control Works

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comments on this one are a hoot

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wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:49:02pm

re: #127 jaunte

I don’t believe the grossly exhibitionistic Trump would be deterred by a pee tape. The leverage has to be something more dangerous to his standing than that.

Trump is a millionaire.

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:51:10pm

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, same here - I think that’s the kompromat. And they’d send it straight to Mueller with a CC to the NY Attorney General’s office.

So the real question is whether Trump’s base is big enough to donate enough money to his campaign to cover the legal fees for everyone in his family.

I sure hope Ivanka’s got a skeleton in her closet…at the end of the day I want the whole thing to go to Tiffany and have Maples Tower be the go-to place in Manhattan.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:52:11pm

re: #128 Sir John Barron

OJ’s parole hearing I assume?

Yes

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:52:17pm

re: #33 Archangelus

Well, there’s a photo that hasn’t aged well…

The supervillains have to have a moment of triumph to maniacally laugh before being defeated in the end.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:53:06pm

re: #127 jaunte

I don’t believe the grossly exhibitionistic Trump would be deterred by a pee tape. The leverage has to be something more dangerous to his standing than that.

It would have to be something Trump would actually care about people knowing:
Possibilities:
(1)He has a tiny penis.
(2)He is not a Billionaire
(3)One or more of his children are not his (Tiffany, I’m looking at you).
(4)He’s gay

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:53:46pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:54:15pm

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, same here - I think that’s the kompromat. And they’d send it straight to Mueller with a CC to the NY Attorney General’s office.

Could be, but if Trump was engaged in money-laundering, wouldn’t that have been looked into already? He’s been in business a long time. Just playing devil’s advocate here. But I’d lean away from the money-laundering theme for now.

More likely it actually was dirt or a plan to get dirt on Hillary. We see that in what follows, both from DJT’s comments not long after this meeting took place, later the very same day in fact, and the eventual hacking of the DNC and release of DNC emails by Wikileaks.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:54:30pm

re: #153 darthstar

So the real question is whether Trump’s base is big enough to donate enough money to his campaign to cover the legal fees for everyone in his family.

I sure hope Ivanka’s got a skeleton in her closet…at the end of the day I want the whole thing to go to Tiffany and have Maples Tower be the go-to place in Manhattan.

If indeed it’s all about money laundering, once asset forfeiture kicks in, the Trump Organization would be effectively bankrupted; finished, kaput, finito.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:54:33pm

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

Transgender woman trolls Gov. Greg Abbot (R-Tex.)
huffingtonpost.com

She posed with Governor Abbot in the state legislature for a photograph (in the article), which is now going viral on Facebook and was shown on CBS.

She points out if the governor can’t tell who the trans people are, how would the potty police?

Epic Troll. Seriously good for her.

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:54:58pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:55:27pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:55:27pm

re: #153 darthstar

Barron is Ivanka’s son. Donny the daddy.

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Interesting Times  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:55:36pm

re: #159 Dr Lizardo

If indeed it’s all about money laundering, once asset forfeiture kicks in, the Trump Organization would be effectively bankrupted; finished, kaput, finito.

Isn’t the racist keebler elf currently trying to make civil asset forfeiture easier? Oh, the irony/beauty of unintended consequences…

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:55:42pm

re: #93 Kragar

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So like a threat? Or a bribe? Interesting.

P.S. But I thought Donny Junior claimed that he received nothing from the Russians and meeting only lasted for a few minutes. Shoes keep dropping.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:55:47pm

re: #158 Sir John Barron

Could be, but if Trump was engaged in money-laundering, wouldn’t that have been looked into already? He’s been in business a long time. Just playing devil’s advocate here. But I’d lean away from the money-laundering theme for now.

More likely it actually was dirt or a plan to get dirt on Hillary. We see that in what follows, both from DJT’s comments not long after this meeting took place, later the very same day in fact, and the eventual hacking of the DNC and release of DNC emails by Wikileaks.

It was looked at before, IIRC, particularly in regard to his casino ventures. And it might still be getting looked at for all we know.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:55:55pm

re: #161 MsJ

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Hahaha what a whiner.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:57:24pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:57:43pm

re: #161 MsJ

The only possible position for a Fox employee is unquestioning, fawning pro-Trump coverage, with extra effort paid to destroying Drump’s enemies.

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:57:44pm

re: #163 GlutenFreeJesus

GAH!!!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 12:58:16pm

re: #98 sagehen

If conservative ideas were so good, they wouldn’t have to jump over subway tracks to avoid the press.

This also shows the importance of raising funding for the congressional gym.

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Kragar  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:00:05pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:00:30pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:00:56pm
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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:01:24pm

re: #168 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content] GOP senator jumps over subway tracks to avoid press after he sinks healthcare bill rawstory.com

before i saw the picture, i thought they were SUBWAY TRACKS!!!!

5 foot drop, lots of garbage floating around, puddles of water, third rails, etc

a child coulda done this

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:01:54pm

re: #171 Anymouse 🌹

If conservative ideas were so good, they wouldn’t have to jump over subway tracks to avoid the press.

This also shows the importance of raising funding for the congressional gym.

“Rule #1 - Cardio”

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:03:02pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:03:16pm

re: #175 dangerman

before i saw the picture, i thought they were SUBWAY TRACKS!!!!

5 foot drop, lots of garbage floating around, puddles of water, third rails, etc

a child coulda done this

Yeah, seriously. Sometimes Raw Story is a wee bit sensationalist, click-baity.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:04:12pm

re: #175 dangerman

before i saw the picture, i thought they were SUBWAY TRACKS!!!!

5 foot drop, lots of garbage floating around, puddles of water, third rails, etc

a child coulda done this

Not that a U.S. Senator would be anywhere near a real subway station.

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BeachDem  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:04:13pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

It wasn’t that long ago. I was in school when Mandela finally got released.

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:04:41pm

re: #171 Anymouse 🌹

If conservative ideas were so good, they wouldn’t have to jump over subway tracks to avoid the press.

…they wouldnt be dealing with razor thin margins in their own party, bribing them as well (and still losing) nor having such a hard time ‘selling’ their ideas to everyone else

the dogs dont like the dog food. simple as that

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:04:47pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:05:59pm
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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:06:24pm

re: #182 Ace-o-aces

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You mean she was only successful because she was a Fox New Barbie Doll?

addendum: having to compete in the real world is hard —once outside the bubble white women are just like everyone else.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:06:43pm
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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:07:37pm

Gypsies?

WTF!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:08:15pm

re: #81 FormerDirtDart

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A Christmas in July Miracle!

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Kragar  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:08:45pm
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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:09:50pm
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petesh  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:09:55pm

re: #186 Birth Control Works

Gypsies?

WTF!

Cher - Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:11:19pm
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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:13:14pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:15:23pm

re: #191 FormerDirtDart

What’s that apocryphal quote of LBJ’s? “If I’ve lost Cronkite, I’ve lost Middle America”, IIRC. I don’t know if LBJ actually said that, but it’s certainly been attributed to him.

If Trump loses FNC, he’s well and thoroughly fucked. And by extension, the GOP is gonna take a hit, too.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:15:37pm

bbl

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:15:53pm
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nines09  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:17:22pm

re: #195 MsJ

GOP; “Hold my beer.”

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Birth Control Works  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:19:54pm

In February 2016, during the International Roma Conference, the Indian Minister of External Affairs stated that the people of the Roma community were children of India. The conference ended with a recommendation to the Government of India to recognize the Roma community spread across 30 countries as a part of the Indian diaspora.[60]

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sagehen  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:20:11pm

re: #158 Sir John Barron

Could be, but if Trump was engaged in money-laundering, wouldn’t that have been looked into already? He’s been in business a long time. Just playing devil’s advocate here. But I’d lean away from the money-laundering theme for now.

It has been looked at before, but evidence is hard to come by, or people willing to testify. Maybe it wasn’t an accident that the upper management of his casinos died in a helicopter crash.

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Kragar  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:21:54pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:22:10pm

re: #191 FormerDirtDart

Hannity (probably): John Roberts is so anti-Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:23:49pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:24:55pm
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makeitstop  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:26:06pm

re: #175 dangerman

before i saw the picture, i thought they were SUBWAY TRACKS!!!!

5 foot drop, lots of garbage floating around, puddles of water, third rails, etc

a child coulda done this

That’s the ‘Senate Subway’ - it runs between Senate office buildings. I actually rode it once.

And like so many things in DC, it has very little in common with the real world.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:27:15pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:30:56pm

re: #152 wrenchwench

Trump is a millionaire.

I’ve asserted that Trump is a hundredaire. When you add up all his debt, I have more money than him.

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petesh  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:31:59pm

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve asserted that Trump is a hundredaire. When you add up all his debt, I have more money than him.

And better taste, I am quite certain

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:32:19pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:32:40pm

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

So like a threat? Or a bribe? Interesting.

P.S. But I thought Donny Junior claimed that he received nothing from the Russians and meeting only lasted for a few minutes. Shoes keep dropping.

Imelda Marcos is really God.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:34:49pm

re: #198 sagehen

It has been looked at before, but evidence is hard to come by, or people willing to testify. Maybe it wasn’t accident that the upper management of his casinos died in a helicopter crash.

There are Trumpsters who buy the Clinton murder conspiracy charges. But the one principle that always hold true: any time the GOP, esp Trump, accuses the Democrats of a crime, they are deflecting: it is the GOP that engages in that action.

I also agree totally with those who believe that Trump would never be bothered by a sex tape UNLESS it shows that he cannot perform. Even then his supporters would not care. OTOH, a document that proves he is a millionaire and not a billionaire, especially if he has less than $500 million may prove lethal to his image.

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nines09  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:35:42pm

NSFW….TURN SOUND DOWN IF AT WORK

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:36:17pm

re: #189 MsJ

Let’s not seek comfort in the easy traps of either normalizing or demonizing the decision half of America has made. We must do what is hard, what is necessary and what is right. We must hold our families and communities close with a firm grip, but also extend an open hand to those who reject us. We must take a stand but also find a way to understand.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:38:42pm

re: #201 FormerDirtDart

Oh, so that’s it: Sean Hannity is hearing “Voices”.

/

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:39:31pm

Good night, Lizards. Up early for work tomorrow.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:41:00pm

re: #210 nines09

The full video by Liberal Redneck is here. It’s way more NSFW (and funnier) than the clip above.

Liberal Redneck - (Internet) Freedom Isn’t Free

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:44:27pm

re: #207 FormerDirtDart

Never quite understand these critiques of Islam from RWNJ. I realize Deadbeat Joe probably isn’t a practicing Christian (given the language he frequently uses I wouldn’t take him to be one), but the RWNJ’s he supports who are have pretty similar Puritan-like beliefs about what is proper women’s attire as the Saudis.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:44:35pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:44:45pm

re: #76 dangerman

of all the things he didnt know and maybe figured he could learn ojt - the constitution, how legislation works, foreign policy, domestic policy, what the senate does (jk), how you behave and don’t.

the biggest thing i think he missed is that everyone would be watching his every move and commenting, critiquing and throwing his own words back at him - no matter what. brave face and all, inside even a man baby, there is no running from what everyone is telling you they think about you and your performance

he’s just plain hiding

How could he have missed the criticism? All he had to do is consider his own reputation of comments about Obama and other politicians and then figure he would be in for the same.

He’s just a bully that can dish it out but can’t take it.

Somebody grab this pussy and toss him out of the White House for good.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:45:19pm

re: #108 Birth Control Works

Bible Belt leads the nation in consumption of gay porn

The reason it is the Bible Belt is because those people need a strict moral corset to keep them in line.

Whereas most normal adults can lead decent lives without fear of damnation and eternal torment, these Bible Belters need such visions of suffering and lakes of hell fire or they will spend all their free time whoring, drinking, fighting, gambling and stealing…and getting off on gay porn.

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:45:28pm

re: #209 Hecuba’s daughter

There are Trumpsters who buy the Clinton murder conspiracy charges. But the one principle that always hold true: any time the GOP, esp Trump, accuses the Democrats of a crime, they are deflecting: it is the GOP that engages in that action.

I also agree totally with those who believe that Trump would never be bothered by a sex tape UNLESS it shows that he cannot perform. Even then his supporters would not care. OTOH, a document that proves he is a millionaire and not a billionaire, especially if he has less than $500 million may prove lethal to his image.

I doubt Trump is a millionaire. He got a special deduction on the one tax return we’ve seen for crying “poor”. Not that I don’t put it past him to cheat on his taxes but I doubt he’s anywhere near as rich as he claims.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:46:06pm
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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:49:53pm

re: #216 FormerDirtDart

Blaming 1.6 billion people for one incident in Saudi Arabia. This is Joe Walsh.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:52:42pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:54:11pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:54:25pm

Evening Lizardim.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:59:12pm

re: #127 jaunte

I don’t believe the grossly exhibitionistic Trump would be deterred by a pee tape. The leverage has to be something more dangerous to his standing than that.

It’s not a pee tape.

Trump has a menstrual fetish

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 18, 2017 • 1:59:30pm

Let’s remember our enemies will take advantage of every quirk, let alone real flaw in our so called Presidents words or actions. Or inactions as the case may be.

Paged.

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:01:17pm

re: #163 GlutenFreeJesus

Barron is Ivanka’s son. Donny the daddy.

I’ve thought this for some time myself…but I think Melania’s still the mom.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:02:31pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:06:18pm

They are just about ripe enough to harvest

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:07:41pm

re: #227 darthstar

I’ve thought this for some time myself…but I think Melania’s still the mom.

Remember that picture of Barron, with a camera, taking pictures of Melania while on top of her? She doesn’t strike me as the type of person who would let those happen if he were Ivanka’s kid.

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:08:17pm

re: #144 MsJ

OMG that FB page. SWOOOOOON! Such cute doggies.

I like some of the stories that go with the Doggos. I felt so sorry for the cute little pup that a UPS driver saw abandoned out on the street while he was delivering and he went and grabbed the little terrier and took it to local animal services where the pup will be up for adoption.

Facebook linked to this doggo site for the whole story.

I heart Dogs - UPS Driver Sees Dog Getting Dumped, “Delivers” Him To Safety

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:08:45pm

re: #207 FormerDirtDart

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CleverToad  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:08:56pm

re: #195 MsJ

[Embedded content]

Of course they’re trying to resurrect the ‘privatize Medicare’ zombie.
Thanks for the heads-up — called my congresscritter to remind him of the phrase ‘third rail…’

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:11:18pm

re: #231 ObserverArt

I like some of the stories that go with the Doggos. I felt so sorry for the cute little pup that a UPS driver saw abandoned out on the street while he was delivering and he went and grabbed the little terrier and took it to local animal services where the pup will be up for adoption.

Facebook linked to this doggo site for the whole story.

I heart Dogs - UPS Driver Sees Dog Getting Dumped, “Delivers” Him To Safety

That one brought tears to my eyes. Who could do that to a three month old puppy? Knowing he could get hit by a car. There are some sick fucking people in this world.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:11:56pm

re: #227 darthstar

I’ve thought this for some time myself…but I think Melania’s still the mom.

Jared is the daddy then…

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BeachDem  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:12:41pm

re: #225 The Vicious Babushka

Speaking of sickening images, I’ve been saving this one—the ultimate ducklips—for you.

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:12:47pm

re: #163 GlutenFreeJesus

Barron is Ivanka’s son. Donny the daddy.

Ouch!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:13:47pm

News from the Nebraska outback:

The general store owner thanked me for helping kill the local sales tax proposed by conservatives last night. I pointed out someone has to look out for the town’s businesses, might as well be the socialist.

It has been twenty-four hours since the water system alarm telephoned my house. I think I finally got the thing either fixed or permanently broken.

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:14:56pm

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

So like a threat? Or a bribe? Interesting.

P.S. But I thought Donny Junior claimed that he received nothing from the Russians and meeting only lasted for a few minutes. Shoes keep dropping.

As if all falling off the shelves in Imelda Marcos’ shoe closets.

Tons of shoes…shoes everywhere.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:15:18pm

Does the yam look at polls? nah.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:15:44pm
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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:15:58pm

re: #222 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content] So Trump is constitutionally obligated to take affirmative steps to shore up the program? Seems like a stretch.

pretty much textbook definition of “faithfully”

plus no mention of “just the ones he wants/agrees to / believes in”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:19:50pm

Gah. Why are conservatives so completely full of shit these days? And they’re ALL like this.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:21:19pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:22:36pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:25:02pm

re: #198 sagehen

It has been looked at before, but evidence is hard to come by, or people willing to testify. Maybe it wasn’t an accident that the upper management of his casinos died in a helicopter crash.

Isn’t that all being looked at by the New York or New Jersey Attorney General? I think Lawhawk mentions that from time to time.

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Targetpractice  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:26:25pm

re: #243 Charles Johnson

Gah. Why are conservatives so completely full of shit these days? And they’re ALL like this.

[Embedded content]

So many “patriots” worship at the altar of Party Before Country.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:27:43pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:27:56pm

Check this recipe.

Looks pretty simple.

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Jay C  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:29:50pm

re: #245 Stanley Sea

So what’s Trump going to crow about at THIS bogus-ass rally? That the Youngstown Smokestack Works is going to reopen, thanks to his new coal-fired energy policy, and it’s going to employ 350,000 workers at $195/hour for twenty years? And that it was only HIS “deal-making” abilities that allowed it??

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:31:53pm

re: #245 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content] Just in: Trump to rally in Youngstown, Ohio next Tuesday.

rallies
tweets
fire engines
baseball bats and cattle hats

does he every, you know, do any actual work?

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makeitstop  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:33:05pm

re: #250 Jay C

[Embedded content]

So what’s Trump going to crow about at THIS bogus-ass rally? That the Youngstown Smokestack Works is going to reopen, thanks to his new coal-fired energy policy, and it’s going to employ 350,000 workers at $195/hour for twenty years? And that it was only HIS “deal-making” abilities that allowed it??

He’s going to bitch about how the media and Democrats are being so mean to him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:36:26pm

Trump and Putin apparently held a second informal meeting at the G-20 conference.
thehill.com

President Trump held a second, informal meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin on the sidelines of the Group of 20 summit in Hamburg earlier this month, according to Ian Bremmer, the president of the international consulting firm Eurasia Group.

The meeting took place during the G-20 heads of state dinner, according to Bremmer, hours after Trump’s formal bilateral sit-down with Putin.

In that conversation, Trump spoke with the Russian leader for roughly an hour, joined only by Putin’s translator. The meeting had previously gone without mention by the White House.

More at the link

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:37:24pm

re: #243 Charles Johnson

Gah. Why are conservatives so completely full of shit these days? And they’re ALL like this.

[Embedded content]

Lots of creative excuse writing going on. Who knew conservative could be so artistic?

Maybe they should get out of politics and do something else with all that talent.

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makeitstop  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:40:01pm

re: #243 Charles Johnson

Even when Republicans nominally control the government, liberals still dictate policy bc Rs are afraid that media will portray them as mean.

Wait, wait. Aren’t we the ones who are supposed to be all scaredy about stuff?

For manly he-men, they sure sound like a bunch of goddamned snowflakes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:41:05pm

re: #255 makeitstop

Wait, wait. Aren’t we the ones who are supposed to be all scaredy about stuff?

For manly he-men, they sure sound like a bunch of goddamned snowflakes.

Projection, always, &c.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:41:39pm

re: #251 dangerman

rallies
tweets
fire engines
baseball bats and cattle hats

does he every, you know, do any actual work?

Golf, parades & dinners.

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:42:49pm

re: #243 Charles Johnson

… Even when Republicans nominally control the government, liberals still dictate policy bc Rs are afraid that media will portray them as mean.

nominally my ass

de facto

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:43:26pm

re: #250 Jay C

[Embedded content]

So what’s Trump going to crow about at THIS bogus-ass rally? That the Youngstown Smokestack Works is going to reopen, thanks to his new coal-fired energy policy, and it’s going to employ 350,000 workers at $195/hour for twenty years? And that it was only HIS “deal-making” abilities that allowed it??

I have a feeling this rally is not going to be kind to him. People are getting a feel for him and if those people are the people that live in the Mahoning Valley of Ohio and think he bullshitted them and they fell for it…look out. They will not hold back criticism. Could get ugly.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:43:47pm

ICE to flood so-called “sanctuary cities” with hundreds of agents to crack down on so-called criminals:

washingtonexaminer.com

Empowered by a president who has “taken the handcuffs off of law enforcement,” the nation’s chief immigration official revealed Tuesday that deportation targets have surged and that he’s planning to deploy hundreds of agents to “sanctuary cities” to arrest illegal criminals.

Thomas D. Homan, acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said in an interview that since Trump entered office, illegal border crossings have crashed by almost 70 percent, “an historic low,” arrests inside the country have jumped 40 percent and that demands for illegal criminals in local jails has skyrocketed 80 percent.

“You can like President Trump, not like him, like his policies, not like his policies, but one thing no one can argue with is the effect they’ve had,” said Homan, the former chief ICE enforcement boss and a 30-year immigration agency veteran.

He said that the change in immigration enforcement has been radical — and welcome — under Trump. “You’d think everybody would be celebrating these policies,” he said during the 45-minute interview in his office.

(more at the link)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:44:44pm

re: #243 Charles Johnson

Gah. Why are conservatives so completely full of shit these days? And they’re ALL like this.

[Embedded content]

Here’s the thing: Maybe, just maybe, if conservatives’ policy wasn’t, “Stuff the pockets of the rich white men and fuck over everyone else,” we wouldn’t think they were mean.

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makeitstop  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:46:03pm

re: #259 ObserverArt

I have a feeling this rally is not going to be kind to him. People are getting a feel for him and if those people are the people that live in the Mahoning Valley of Ohio and think he bullshitted them and they fell for it…look out. They will not hold back criticism. Could get ugly.

Oh, that would be perfect. Take away his only refuge - the stupid rallies where he goes to be bathed in the love of the Uneducated.

He’d have to start going to Russia on the regular to get his fix of adoration.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:47:20pm

re: #245 Stanley Sea

re: #250 Jay C

So what’s Trump going to crow about at THIS bogus-ass rally? That the Youngstown Smokestack Works is going to reopen, thanks to his new coal-fired energy policy, and it’s going to employ 350,000 workers at $195/hour for twenty years? And that it was only HIS “deal-making” abilities that allowed it??

Next week is “American Heroes” week.
EVEN WHITE HOUSE STAFFERS THINK TRUMP’S “THEME WEEKS” ARE A JOKE - Vanity Fair

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:47:20pm

re: #260 Anymouse 🌹

‘illegal criminal’?
really?

they used the term twice

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makeitstop  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:49:00pm

re: #264 dangerman

‘illegal criminal’?
really?

they used the term twice

I’m still trying to figure out what this means -

demands for illegal criminals in local jails has skyrocketed 80 percent.

Umm…que???

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BeachDem  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:50:13pm

re: #257 Stanley Sea

Golf, parades & dinners.

Creme pies with ice cream (two scoops!)

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Jay C  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:52:37pm

re: #259 ObserverArt

I have a feeling this rally is not going to be kind to him. People are getting a feel for him and if those people are the people that live in the Mahoning Valley of Ohio and think he bullshitted them and they fell for it…look out. They will not hold back criticism. Could get ugly.

How “ugly” is a Trump rally likely to get? I thought (from most media reports of these imbecilic affairs) that the audiences are carefully screened, media coverage is tightly controlled; El Presidente’s entrances/access/exits are controlled even tighter (hence the usual airport venue), and that anybody at all who might even be suspected of holding the least negative opinion of Dear Leader will be penned up in a “free speech zone” at as distant a point as possible (well out of sight of the cameras, no doubt).

I mean, I’d love to see The Donald chased back up the steps of Air Force One under a shower of well-past-the-sell-by-date fruits and vegetables: but that’s sadly unlikely….

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:53:33pm

re: #264 dangerman

‘illegal criminal’?
really?

they used the term twice

Gotta be sure, apparently. We wouldn’t want to arrest any illegal innocents or legal criminals.

These are the same people who push for English-only amendments.

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451_Montag  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:55:12pm

re: #249 Stanley Sea

Check this recipe.

Looks pretty simple.

[Embedded content]

Go to any Pollo a la brass in Lima, Peru and this comes as one of the sauces. For about 15 bucks you get a whole barbecue chicken, big box of papa Fritz’s, salad and a bottle of Inca Cola, sinking with loads of sauces.

Miss it a lot

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:55:39pm

We now go live to the Fox News Editorial Room…

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makeitstop  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:58:58pm

re: #268 Anymouse 🌹

We wouldn’t want to arrest any illegal innocents or legal criminals.

Or the fun lovin’ ones!

Fun Lovin’ Criminals - The Fun Lovin’ Criminal [Offical Music Video]

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 2:59:05pm

re: #267 Jay C

How “ugly” is a Trump rally likely to get? I thought (from most media reports of these imbecilic affairs) that the audiences are carefully screened, media coverage is tightly controlled; El Presidente’s entrances/access/exits are controlled even tighter (hence the usual airport venue), and that anybody at all who might even be suspected of holding the least negative opinion of Dear Leader will be penned up in a “free speech zone” at as distant a point as possible (well out of sight of the cameras, no doubt).

I mean, I’d love to see The Donald chased back up the steps of Air Force One under a shower of well-past-the-sell-by-date fruits and vegetables: but that’s sadly unlikely….

I am sure they will try to balance the audience to be pro Trump no doubt. But that may not prevent some from getting in anyway.

I should have been more clear. The protesting at the rally, like outside the venue, the ride in and out all could be contentious. It isn’t too far for Cleveland and Akron people to get to either.

And who knows, maybe he will have a hard time getting people to show up to kiss his ass.

It is an angry rowdy part of Ohio America. I’ve known quite a few Youngstown and Warren residents and they don’t suffer fools and can be very vocal about it.

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wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:00:37pm

re: #268 Anymouse 🌹

Gotta be sure, apparently. We wouldn’t want to arrest any illegal innocents or legal criminals.

These are the same people who push for English-only amendments.

They aren’t using the language correctly, but I know what they mean. They are calling people ‘illegal’, and referring to people who have ALSO committed crimes. Crossing the border illegally is a civil infraction, not a ‘crime’, so it has to be both.

These things can only be said with a straight face by people who can also say that the president has ‘taken the handcuffs off of law enforcement’.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:01:07pm

re: #249 Stanley Sea

Check this recipe.

Looks pretty simple.

[Embedded content]

Spatchcocked roasted chicken in a cast iron pan is my new favorite way to prepare chicken!

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Jay C  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:01:11pm

re: #272 ObserverArt

I

t is an angry rowdy part of Ohio America. I’ve known quite a few Youngstown and Warren residents and they don’t suffer fools and can be very vocal about it.

Maybe: but how did the area vote in 2016?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:06:48pm
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Lidane  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:07:09pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:09:18pm

Enlist of STARVE!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:09:41pm

re: #249 Stanley Sea

Check this recipe.

Looks pretty simple.

[Embedded content]

Bookmarked. Thanks!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:09:54pm

re: #219 MsJ

I doubt Trump is a millionaire. He got a special deduction on the one tax return we’ve seen for crying “poor”. Not that I don’t put it past him to cheat on his taxes but I doubt he’s anywhere near as rich as he claims.

The tax deduction is based on income not net worth. I don’t know the definition used in this case, but given the games we saw in that return in the 1990’s which showed a billion dollar loss, his income could continue to be depressed based on some similar tax accounting tricks. He doesn’t need to cheat when our tax laws are written to help the wealthy evade taxes.

I also recall a report from 10+ years ago (which I may have mentioned in some prior post) which revealed that an accountant from one of the major firms assured clients that some scheme was so complicated that the underpaid IRS agents did not have the skills to uncover its criminality. Enron escaped detection for years as did Bernie Madoff.

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Varek Raith  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:11:32pm

re: #64 bratwurst

This is glorious! Of course, the chances of him engaging in any introspection is zero…but still:

[Embedded content]

Ha!
Image: Screen_Shot_2017-07-18_at_12.07.16_PM.png

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:11:40pm

re: #275 Jay C

I

Maybe: but how did the area vote in 2016?

I know they voted for Trump, but that was unusual. It is very Democratic but they turned on Hillary and bought the Trump jobs/trade/immigrant bullshit hoping for a change.

That is why I started out by saying they know the man more now, I think they will know they have been screwed. And that is why I think they will turn on him. Maybe not at this rally, but a good Democratic candidate can take that area.

Familiar with Congressman Tim Ryan? He’s been in the news a lot lately. He’s the Democratic house rep for a good portion of the area. Ever hear him discuss anything? He has that local thinking an attitude.

It was a crazy election and a lot of Ohioans took a flyer. More conservatives that never vote (Appalachia Ohio) voted and too many Democrats did not vote at all. This is not a deeply red state. Way more blue/purple.

By the way, if I am wrong I am wrong. I’m going on feel alone. I sense a tide turning away from Trump. it came in and it can go out.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:12:56pm

Chris Coons just said that when the yam went and talked to Putin at the dinner, it was a long time & that he did not bring a translator, relied on the Russian translator with Putin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:16:36pm

re: #249 Stanley Sea

Check this recipe.

Looks pretty simple.

[Embedded content]

Chimichurri sauce bit with no parsley and some mayo added

not unlike the famous Frankfurt grüne Sosse:

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:39:47pm

re: #248 Unshaken Defiance

[Embedded content]

Trump Sr and Jr are no longer claiming that the meeting was about adoptions though. They’re pretty much admitting that it was an attempt for Trump to get “opposition research” on Secretary Clinton. Mueller certainly isn’t dumb enough to buy into the initial adoption lie.


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Beck Performing ‘Up All Night’ Live on KCRW Watch / Listen to the full session here: kcrw.com Beck has always been a chameleon and his latest Colors finds him returning to the incredibly upbeat songs that drove earlier albums like Odelay and Guero. This performance, recorded at ...
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Thundercat Performs ‘Them Changes’ With Jon Batiste & Stay Human Bass-man and musical wunderkind Thundercat sits in with the Late Show house band to perform this track off his latest album 'Drunk.' Subscribe To "The Late Show" Channel HERE: bit.lyFor more content from "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert", ...
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