Republican Congressman Wants to Know: Were There Civilizations on Mars Thousands of Years Ago?

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During a hearing of the House of Representatives’ Committee on Science, Space and Technology today, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Mars) asked a panel of planetary scientists if they would rule out the possibility that there was “a civilization on Mars thousands of years ago.”

Somehow the scientists managed to keep a straight face while answering this chowderhead.

Rohrabacher is a good example of the ignorant morons we have running the United States these days, and the fact that he’s a member of the House Committee that deals with science and technology is a disgrace and a fiasco. For more evidence of what a complete disaster this guy is, have a look at his website’s page on climate change.

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Lidane  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:09:00pm

I’m shocked that Dana Rohrabacher isn’t accusing Martians of throwing 60-lb bags of heroin over the wall.

What a maroon.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:09:59pm

Dana’s just riled up because he heard something about White Martians.

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austin_blue  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:12:30pm

What a fucking idiot.

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nines09  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:14:00pm

Valid question. After all, who dug the canals? Huh? Huh? HUH?

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:14:04pm

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Jay C  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:14:21pm

Maybe the answer to Congressman Rohrabacher’s question is actually “Yes”!
There WERE ancient civilizations on Mars ages ago…

Until conservative governments took power and officially denied the existence of planetary dessication and ocean-loss; deriding it as an anti-Martian plot by dishonest scientists looking for handouts from sinister media interests….

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Varek Raith  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:16:26pm

<_<

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:20:00pm

re: #5 jaunte

We used to go party up at Percival Lowell’s mausoleum up on Mars Hill near the Lowell Observatory, we lived at the base of it in Flagstaff.

And don’t forget, that was where astronomers first discovered Pluto, the non-planet…

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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:20:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:20:12pm

re: #283 Stanley Sea

Chris Coons just said that when the yam went and talked to Putin at the dinner, it was a long time & that he did not bring a translator, relied on the Russian translator with Putin.

I’m not sure, but my understanding is when an official of the US government meets a foreign government official, it is a requirement to take a US translator (to ensure that what is conveyed both by the foreign official and the translator are accurate).

I’m guessing if this Hill/Washington Examiner report is true, the GOP will ignore that as well.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:22:33pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

Pretty fucked up.

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:22:52pm

Rohrabacher’s website links to the George C. Marshall Institute.
More about them from DeSmog Blog:

In a 2009 essay, former Executive Director Matthew B. Crawford had this to say about his initial experience with the Marshall Institute (emphasis added):

“… certain perversities became apparent as I settled into the job. It sometimes required me to reason backward, from desired conclusion to suitable premise. The organization had taken certain positions, and there were some facts it was more fond of than others. As its figurehead, I was making arguments I didn’t fully buy myself. Further, my boss seemed intent on retraining me according to a certain cognitive style — that of the corporate world, from which he had recently come. This style demanded that I project an image of rationality but not indulge too much in actual reasoning.”

Newsweek has described the George C. Marshall Institute as a “central cog in the denial machine,” and Naomi Oreskes has said that the Institute has lobbied politically to create a false perception of scientific uncertainty over the negative effects of second-hand smoke, the carcinogenic nature of tobacco smoking, the existence of acid rain, and on the evidence between CFCs and ozone depletion.
desmogblog.com

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:25:51pm

re: #8 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We used to go party up at Percival Lowell’s mausoleum up on Mars Hill, we lived at the base of it in Flagstaff.

And don’t forget, that was where astronomers first discovered Pluto, the non-planet…

Haven’t they changed Pluto back to a real boy planet?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:27:45pm

re: #13 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Haven’t they changed Pluto back to a real boy planet?

I have not kept up on the latest memos

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:27:54pm

scientists huddle and whisper: “did he say ‘thousands’ or ‘millions’ “
(he said ‘thousands’)

Response: “No.”

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:28:08pm
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sauceruney  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:29:06pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

But in this case, what Trump didn’t want were witnesses who could testify against him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:29:26pm

The most pressing question: Does Mars need women, and if so, what kind of women?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:30:54pm

re: #13 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Haven’t they changed Pluto back to a real boy planet?

No. Pluto is classified as a dwarf planet. The argument continues, since when it was discovered in 1930 it was designated as a planet, but since then doesn’t meet the new definition. (By some definitions, Earth doesn’t either, for example, has cleared its orbit of debris.)

Eris is considerably larger than Pluto, and was immediately classified as a dwarf planet.

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:31:20pm

If there were not a Martian civilization then where did the fun little Martian in the Looney Tunes cartoons come from huh? Answer me that science buffs!

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:31:35pm

Dana doesnt represent Mars. The civilization there right now is way too advanced for hin.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:31:57pm

Tim Burton couldn’t have dreamt this bullshit up for Mars Attacks!, even if he tried.

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:31:58pm

There’s already 7 Democrats (and 1 Libertarian) signed up to challenge Rohrabacher next year. His was one of the districts in Orange County that split its vote between a GOP Congressman and Hillary Clinton. There’s a good chance that he’s going to end up a casualty of Trumpism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:32:53pm

re: #20 ObserverArt

If there were not a Martian civilization then where did the fun little Martian in the Looney Tunes cartoons come from huh? Answer me that science buffs!

And what about the ka-BOOM? There was supposed to be a ka-BOOM!!!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:34:19pm

re: #23 KGxvi

There’s already 7 Democrats (and 1 Libertarian) signed up to challenge Rohrabacher next year. His was one of the districts in Orange County that split its vote between a GOP Congressman and Hillary Clinton. There’s a good chance that he’s going to end up a casualty of Trumpism.

I imagine that recording of Ryan talking about Rohrabacher being one of Russia’s congressmen could be used in certain negative adverts either by the Democrats or Libertarians.

Seven Democrats could be a problem though. The Dems need to coalesce behind one candidate rather than get into a knock-down drag-out that damages the eventual winner.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:34:50pm

re: #23 KGxvi

There’s already 7 Democrats (and 1 Libertarian) signed up to challenge Rohrabacher next year. His was one of the districts in Orange County that split its vote between a GOP Congressman and Hillary Clinton. There’s a good chance that he’s going to end up a casualty of Trumpism.

Russia Russia Russia

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:35:13pm

Feature request, Charles: Could you add a clear button for the comment box?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:35:51pm

re: #27 Belafon

Feature request, Charles: Could you add a clear button for the comment box?

But if you had a clear button, how would you see it?

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:35:52pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not sure, but my understanding is when an official of the US government meets a foreign government official, it is a requirement to take a US translator (to ensure that what is conveyed both by the foreign official and the translator are accurate).

I’m guessing if this Hill/Washington Examiner report is true, the GOP will ignore that as well.

from The Hill

That Trump was not joined in the conversation by his own translator is a breach of national security protocol, according to Ian Bremmer, president of the Eurasia Group, though one that the president likely would not know about.

isnt it part of the effing job description to know about this stuff?

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:36:38pm

re: #18 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The most pressing question: Does Mars need women, and if so, what kind of women?

Hoodoo Gurus, “Mars Needs Guitars!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:37:13pm

re: #29 dangerman

from The Hill

isnt it part of the effing job description to know about this stuff?

A President is expected to surround himself with people aware of these “details” and to tend to them.

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:38:30pm

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A President is expected to surround himself with people aware of these “details” and to tend to them.

that’s ok

he doesnt seem to be doing that either

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:38:57pm

re: #29 dangerman

from The Hill

isnt it part of the effing job description to know about this stuff?

If not him, certainly his staff. There were State Department translators available to him at the G20 meeting. Other State Department staff knows of these things.

I can actually buy a president not knowing every last detail of the job: That’s one of the reasons we have a professional civil service that transcends the politics of the day.

I don’t know the details beyond the Hill’s article, but I’m guessing either the State Department itself didn’t know of the second meeting (so they couldn’t advise him), or he rejected having a translator.

Neither of those looks good. With the GOP’s monomania on turning the USA into a feudal nation, I doubt they care.

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:40:18pm

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹

I imagine that recording of Ryan talking about Rohrabacher being one of Russia’s congressmen could be used in certain negative adverts either by the Democrats or Libertarians.

Seven Democrats could be a problem though. The Dems need to coalesce behind one candidate rather than get into a knock-down drag-out that damages the eventual winner.

We have a blanket primary out here where the top two vote getters move on to the general, so I’m not sure it’s necessarily a problem in the way that it traditionally is in party primaries. Also, interestingly, according to wikipedia at least, pretty much every Republican incumbent in California has multiple challengers already, while most Democratic incumbents don’t even have one challenger yet. Then again, as I’ve said recently, the CAGOP is a complete shitshow.

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:42:16pm

re: #27 Belafon

Feature request, Charles: Could you add a clear button for the comment box?

Winders: Leave cursor in text box hit control “A” to select all…delete!

: )

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Amory Blaine  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:42:34pm

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:43:37pm

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹

But if you had a clear button, how would you see it?

The arrow cursor would change to the select cursor when you passed over it.

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:47:18pm

Nice pic of my boy Banjo taken by a friend with a really nice camera.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:49:25pm

re: #38 Varek Raith

Fox White House correspondent walks out on Huckabee Sanders - and takes parting shot

Sarah Fuckabee continues to win friends and influence people. ////

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:49:46pm

re: #39 darthstar

Nice pic of my boy Banjo taken by a friend with a really nice camera.

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Good looking pooch…looks like he is ready to chase a ball…all attentive.

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:50:30pm

I’ve been busy today…what the fuck happened in the last three hours? I know McConnell ate a massive shit burger with his Plan C…but did he really promise to bring it back again as Plan D? We’re going to need a bigger alphabet before this is through.

Oh, and Trump doesn’t need a translator when meeting with Putin? Interesting. I guess that sucking sound doesn’t need translation.

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:51:15pm
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No Depression  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:52:07pm

This shit is a big reason I’m not a Republican anymore. The party is run by total fucking morons with a tenuous grasp on reality.

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Jay C  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:52:11pm

re: #35 ObserverArt

Winders: Leave cursor in text box hit control “A” to select all…delete!

: )

Thanx for the tip: any way to do that for Macs? Especially iPads?

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:53:03pm

re: #42 darthstar

I’ve been busy today…what the fuck happened in the last three hours? I know McConnell ate a massive shit burger with his Plan C…but did he really promise to bring it back again as Plan D? We’re going to need a bigger alphabet before this is through.

Oh, and Trump doesn’t need a translator when meeting with Putin? Interesting. I guess that sucking sound doesn’t need translation.

Three Republican Female Senators said no way to plan D (just repeal and replace in 2 years) before Mitch could really roll it out. Dead immediately.

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:54:07pm

re: #38 Varek Raith

Fox White House correspondent walks out on Huckabee Sanders - and takes parting shot

Nice…now Trump can call Fox fake news and see how it works for him.

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:54:14pm

re: #35 ObserverArt

Winders: Leave cursor in text box hit control “A” to select all…delete!

: )

I dont have control a on my phone.

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Varek Raith  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:54:15pm

re: #42 darthstar

I’ve been busy today…what the fuck happened in the last three hours? I know McConnell ate a massive shit burger with his Plan C…but did he really promise to bring it back again as Plan D? We’re going to need a bigger alphabet before this is through.

Oh, and Trump doesn’t need a translator when meeting with Putin? Interesting. I guess that sucking sound doesn’t need translation.

Next one is Preparation H.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:54:25pm

re: #34 KGxvi

We have a blanket primary out here where the top two vote getters move on to the general, so I’m not sure it’s necessarily a problem in the way that it traditionally is in party primaries. Also, interestingly, according to wikipedia at least, pretty much every Republican incumbent in California has multiple challengers already, while most Democratic incumbents don’t even have one challenger yet. Then again, as I’ve said recently, the CAGOP is a complete shitshow.

If there are too many sensible alternatives, they can knock each other out, leaving the field to the top 2 crazy candidates. It doesn’t always end as well as the primary race for the California Senate, especially in a district that has repeatedly voted Republican. It’s analogous to what happened in the Republican primary for the state legislature in my state district many years ago. The 2 sensible women who shared similar views each received about 32% of the vote, while the male religious fanatic won about 36% (numbers aren’t precisely right — but you get the idea). He would have been trounced if only one of the women ran. If, for example, the 7 D candidates each get about 10% of the vote, Rohrabacher (Russia) could get 15% and the Libertarian 15%, leaving the Dems out in the cold, even though if 2 ran, they could each have gotten 35%.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:54:27pm

re: #46 ObserverArt

Three Republican Female Senators said no way to plan D (just repeal and replace in 2 years) before Mitch could really roll it out. Dead immediately.

Maybe McConnell should have let the girls into the backroom where the boys were making the deals, huh?

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:54:41pm

re: #45 Jay C

Thanx for the tip: any way to do that for Macs? Especially iPads?

I would think Mac has a similar keyboard function…but I haven’t used one in awhile and can’t say I ever did the same on a Mac when I last did.

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:55:32pm

re: #48 Belafon

I dont have control a on my phone.

Hold your finger down and it will select all.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:55:34pm

re: #52 ObserverArt

I would think Mac has a similar keyboard function…but I haven’t used one in awhile and can’t say I ever did the same on a Mac when I last did.

Should be Command-A on a Mac. iOS devices, if you hold your finger down over a word to select it, it should pop up a menu that provides options for “Copy”, “Paste”, and “Select All”.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:55:39pm

re: #42 darthstar

I’ve been busy today…what the fuck happened in the last three hours? I know McConnell ate a massive shit burger with his Plan C…but did he really promise to bring it back again as Plan D? We’re going to need a bigger alphabet before this is through.

By next October, Turtle Fucker McConnell will be on Plan AAB — to steal all available medication from 300 million Americans and ingest it all by himself.

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:56:15pm

re: #48 Belafon

I dont have control a on my phone.

Damn phones!

Imma play with that and see if there is a way on an Android device.

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:57:15pm

re: #42 darthstar

Oh, and Trump doesn’t need a translator when meeting with Putin? Interesting. I guess that sucking sound doesn’t need translation.

didnt think of it till just now. of course he didnt need a translator. he speaks russian. the best speaker ever - better than putin

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:57:40pm

re: #56 ObserverArt

Damn phones!

Imma play with that and see if there is a way on an Android device.

Darth gave the closest available:

re: #53 darthstar

Hold your finger down and it will select all.

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:58:00pm

re: #44 No Depression

This shit is a big reason I’m not a Republican anymore. The party is run by total fucking morons with a tenuous grasp on reality.

party over reality

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teleskiguy  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:58:34pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:59:05pm

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹

But if you had a clear button, how would you see it?

You just have to feel around for it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:59:36pm

re: #34 KGxvi

I forgot that California has a jungle primary.

I can see where conservative voters in large areas of the state would not care for that much (making an argument they can’t even get a candidate on the ballot).

A jungle primary would work opposite here: We’d have a stream of wingnuts running (but still no Democrats).

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darthstar  Jul 18, 2017 • 3:59:45pm

More trouble in paradise…Shep Smith telling Hannity to pound sand.

rawstory.com

“Sometimes facts are displeasing,” Smith told Mediate. “Journalists report them without fear or favor.”

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Jay C  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:00:30pm

re: #53 darthstar

Hold your finger down and it will select all.

Yay! That works!
Now I can clear my LGF comments on my iPad when composing them in the bathroom doesn’t work out!

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Myron Falwell  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:01:10pm

re: #51 Big Beautiful Door

Maybe McConnell should have let the girls into the backroom where the boys were making the deals, huh?

Or maybe he shouldn’t have had the whole thing take place in the backroom. But that’s the only reason why it went this far in the first place.

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No Depression  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:02:03pm

re: #63 darthstar

More trouble in paradise…Shep Smith telling Hannity to pound sand.

rawstory.com

You know, I’ve always liked Shep Smith. He’s one of the few straight shooters at Fox.

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:02:50pm

re: #53 darthstar

Hold your finger down and it will select all.

re: #54 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Should be Command-A on a Mac. iOS devices, if you hold your finger down over a word to select it, it should pop up a menu that provides options for “Copy”, “Paste”, and “Select All”.

That’s the one thing about the digital world and computing. They all have the basic functions covered just different ways to do it. Thanks for the info all.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:02:50pm

re: #67 No Depression

You know, I’ve always liked Shep Smith. He’s one of the few straight shooters at Fox.

Ironic turn of phrase since he’s gay.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:03:21pm

re: #42 darthstar

I’ve been busy today…what the fuck happened in the last three hours? I know McConnell ate a massive shit burger with his Plan C…but did he really promise to bring it back again as Plan D? We’re going to need a bigger alphabet before this is through.

Oh, and Trump doesn’t need a translator when meeting with Putin? Interesting. I guess that sucking sound doesn’t need translation.

It would be interesting if a receipt leaked out online that he’d hired many years ago a tutor in Russian language… .

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Kragar  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:04:05pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:04:20pm
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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:05:59pm

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹

I forgot that California has a jungle primary.

I can see where conservative voters in large areas of the state would not care for that much (making an argument they can’t even get a candidate on the ballot).

A jungle primary would work opposite here: We’d have a stream of wingnuts running (but still no Democrats).

We’ve already had the Senate election last year see two Democrats advance to the general election. And there’s a very good chance it’ll happen in the governor’s race next year.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:06:29pm

re: #44 No Depression

This shit is a big reason I’m not a Republican anymore. The party is run by total fucking morons with a tenuous grasp on reality.

I don’t mean to bash on you, but ever since I was old enough to understand politics (Nixon), I have never seen the GOP be anything but reactionary. They’ve been fighting against Social Security since the bill first passed.

When I cast my first vote for Jimmy Carter in 1980, I was proud of the vote and saw no reason to vote for any GOP candidate then. I still see no reason now (which is why I turned in a blank ballot except for president and village board this time round).

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Varek Raith  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:07:40pm

I am curious as to why he asked this question though.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:09:11pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:09:55pm

re: #73 KGxvi

We’ve already had the Senate election last year see two Democrats advance to the general election. And there’s a very good chance it’ll happen in the governor’s race next year.

And suddenly, the song ‘Jungle Boogie’ is all I can think of.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:10:17pm
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Renaissance_Man  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:10:29pm

re: #38 Varek Raith

Fox White House correspondent walks out on Huckabee Sanders - and takes parting shot

The reason it’s not on camera is because if it is, Trump will watch it. And then he’ll want to micromanage what they say, how they look, he’ll want to find a model type to be the spokeswoman, and so forth. If it’s not on camera, he doesn’t watch it, and then he doesn’t know about anything that happens there.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:10:38pm

re: #38 Varek Raith

Fox White House correspondent walks out on Huckabee Sanders - and takes parting shot

Every journalist should follow Roberts’ example. Stop sitting through (often no video/audio allowed) b.s.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:12:21pm

re: #78 Stanley Sea

Gotta teach the boy how it actually gets done, dammit.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:13:24pm

re: #79 Renaissance_Man

The reason it’s not on camera is because if it is, Trump will watch it. And then he’ll want to micromanage what they say, how they look, he’ll want to find a model type to be the spokeswoman, and so forth. If it’s not on camera, he doesn’t watch it, and then he doesn’t know about anything that happens there.

Never considered that possibility. That it’s not to silence the press but to silence the Donald?

Still not a justification

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Kragar  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:13:38pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:15:46pm

Is Fox going to turn on Trump…maybe they are seeing they need to so they can ready for the downfall? Sure seems to be some shifts occurring.

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:17:00pm

re: #50 Hecuba’s daughter

If there are too many sensible alternatives, they can knock each other out, leaving the field to the top 2 crazy candidates. It doesn’t always end as well as the primary race for the California Senate, especially in a district that has repeatedly voted Republican. It’s analogous to what happened in the Republican primary for the state legislature in my state district many years ago. The 2 sensible women who shared similar views each received about 32% of the vote, while the male religious fanatic won about 36% (numbers aren’t precisely right — but you get the idea). He would have been trounced if only one of the women ran. If, for example, the 7 D candidates each get about 10% of the vote, Rohrabacher (Russia) could get 15% and the Libertarian 15%, leaving the Dems out in the cold, even though if 2 ran, they could each have gotten 35%.

The Libertarian isn’t going to get much more than 2-3% (there wasn’t even a Libertarian on the primary ballot last year). My guess is that if Rohrabacher looks to be in trouble (say, primary polling below 45%), the CAGOP will find someone else to get on the ballot. The district is still R+7, so I’m sure they’ll be able to find someone. If not, the real number to watch will be Rohrabacher’s primary percentage - he got 56% in the primary last year and 58% in the general (when turnout came close to doubling).

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Jay C  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:17:33pm

re: #65 Myron Falwell

Or maybe he shouldn’t have had the whole thing take place in the backroom. But that’s the only reason why it went this far in the first place.

Except cobbling up some sort of backroom/off-the-record/Republicans-only “done deal” beforehand was basically the only way McConnell was going to get a legislative abortion like the BCRAP past the Senate. He ignored/dismissed the Democrats, as usual: but with only a two-seat Majority (three if you count the VP), he didn’t have a lot of room for maneuver. And with Trumpcare about as popular with the voters as a persistent STD, his leverage with more than a few GOP Senators was going to be shaky, too say the least.
It’s no wonder he felt he had to resort to procedural trickery to try to slip the abominable bill up efforts a vote: Lyndon Johnson, at the height off his influence as Senate Majority leader, just MIGHT have been able to pull something like this off: But Mitch McConnell is no LBJ by a long shot….

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:18:00pm
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No Depression  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:18:27pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t mean to bash on you, but ever since I was old enough to understand politics (Nixon), I have never seen the GOP be anything but reactionary. They’ve been fighting against Social Security since the bill first passed.

When I cast my first vote for Jimmy Carter in 1980, I was proud of the vote and saw no reason to vote for any GOP candidate then. I still see no reason now (which is why I turned in a blank ballot except for president and village board this time round).

Oh, I’m aware of that now. But I was raised Republican, and it wasn’t until the Republicans killed Senate ratification of the U.N. Charter on the Rights of People with Disabilities IN FRONT OF BOB FUCKING DOLE because of Rick Santorum’s batshit conspiracy theory that the Charter was a globalist plot to kidnap children with disabilities that I came around. Sometimes it takes something that cruel and outright stupid to wake you up.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:18:30pm

re: #84 Kragar

McKay Coppins ✔ @mckaycoppins
“You’re gonna have such great health care at a tiny fraction of the cost, and it’s going to be so easy.” — Donald Trump, October 2016
8:42 PM - 17 Jul 2017

Single payer!! Government run!! Pharmaceutical companies under forced pricing!! Maybe government takeover!!

Sure — that’s possible.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:18:54pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart

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John Huntsman is pretty moderate for a Republican. Kind of surprised that Trump would pick someone like that to rep him in his Master’s country.

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teleskiguy  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:19:05pm
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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:19:39pm

re: #85 ObserverArt

Is Fox going to turn on Trump…maybe they are seeing they need to so they can ready for the downfall? Sure seems to be some shifts occurring.

I was just reading a thing about Murdoch’s newspapers (including the WSJ) already turning on him. Shouldn’t be a stretch to see Fox turn on him as well. Would probably be smart for business, sooner or later.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:21:03pm

re: #91 Patricia Kayden

John Huntsman is pretty moderate for a Republican. Kind of surprised that Trump would pick someone like that to rep him in his Master’s country.

Makes it harder for him to re-establish a PAC, and prep to run a primary challenge in ‘19/’20

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:21:21pm

re: #86 KGxvi

The Libertarian isn’t going to get much more than 2-3% (there wasn’t even a Libertarian on the primary ballot last year). My guess is that if Rohrabacher looks to be in trouble (say, primary polling below 45%), the CAGOP will find someone else to get on the ballot. The district is still R+7, so I’m sure they’ll be able to find someone. If not, the real number to watch will be Rohrabacher’s primary percentage - he got 56% in the primary last year and 58% in the general (when turnout came close to doubling).

Was his affinity for Russia as well known during the election? Of course, the GOP seems fine with that. Trump made no secret of his fondness for Putin.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:21:23pm

re: #91 Patricia Kayden

John Huntsman is pretty moderate for a Republican. Kind of surprised that Trump would pick someone like that to rep him in his Master’s country.

Huntsman will be just like McMaster, cut down at every point. They think they can affect outcomes, but have no idea.

They will all have great books about how addled the yam was when this is all over.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:22:56pm

My god

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:23:44pm

re: #96 Stanley Sea

Huntsman will be just like McMaster, cut down at every point. They think they can affect outcomes, but have no idea.

They will all have great books about how addled the yam was when this is all over.

Maybe Huntsman thinks he’ll be able to retain this post under the next administration later this year.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:24:29pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

My god

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Hell, the only way Trump can spell his own name right is by having it written all over everything wherever he goes.
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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:27:21pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

My god

[Embedded content]

And as a sign of good faith and compromise Jon Huntsman files to change his name to John…

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:27:28pm

re: #80 Patricia Kayden

Every journalist should follow Roberts’ example. Stop sitting through (often no video/audio allowed) b.s.

It’s not as if any useful information is being gathered.

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:28:07pm

re: #95 Hecuba’s daughter

Was his affinity for Russia as well known during the election? Of course, the GOP seems fine with that. Trump made no secret of his fondness for Putin.

Rohrabacher has been in Congress since ‘79, and was a Reaganite back in the day. For most of his career, he hasn’t had to worry about being in a contested general election. Being aligned with Reagan in Orange County in the ‘80 and ’90s, and probably into the ’00s wasn’t a bad spot. I think he started to lose it after 9/11, and then got swallowed up by the wingularity by ‘08 (when he blamed Georgia for starting the conflict with Russia. And then, of course, there’s this from 2014:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:28:12pm

re: #80 Patricia Kayden

Every journalist should follow Roberts’ example. Stop sitting through (often no video/audio allowed) b.s.

Nope. If they do that, then Trump and the GOP can put out any ol’ BS.

Rather, I would like to see the press record anyway. See someone try to manhandle a reporter following rights under the I Amendment manhandled out of a press pool meeting. Show them for the fascists they are.

One reporter gets roughed up or manhandled out of a press meeting for daring to record video, the whole press will be down on the GOP like a ton of bricks.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:30:34pm

re: #82 Hecuba’s daughter

Never considered that possibility. That it’s not to silence the press but to silence the Donald?

Still not a justification

No, definitely never justified, but it’s obviously why it’s being done. It’s there because managing Trump’s mood is a full-time job for the entire White House, and seeing his spokespeople struggling has to infuriate him, as we know he has been with Spicer. With Trump being the way he is, he would be constantly irritated at those two, Spicer because he seems weak and harrassed and was mocked by a woman, and Huckabee because she’s not classically beautiful and that’s paramount to him.

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:31:10pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

My god

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Best part is they spell it correctly literally 22 words (and one sentence) later.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:32:49pm

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹

But if you had a clear button, how would you see it?

Just press the Any key

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:32:55pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:33:15pm

re: #89 No Depression

Oh, I’m aware of that now. But I was raised Republican, and it wasn’t until the Republicans killed Senate ratification of the U.N. Charter on the Rights of People with Disabilities IN FRONT OF BOB FUCKING DOLE because of Rick Santorum’s batshit conspiracy theory that the Charter was a globalist plot to kidnap children with disabilities that I came around. Sometimes it takes something that cruel and outright stupid to wake you up.

I was not “raised” in any particular political party. My family (all military vets) were insistent that military (and vets) should not be involved in politics at all.

Thus, my mother (a Navy vet) never voted any time in her life until Tammy Duckworth was running for the Senate and Trump for the White House. She registered to vote for her first time.

I became aware of political positions because I was a paperboy for the Detroit Free-Press in the village in which I grew up in Michigan. By the time I was old enough to vote, I was already aware the GOP did not have America’s interests at heart.

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:34:49pm

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

Nope. If they do that, then Trump and the GOP can put out any ol’ BS.

Rather, I would like to see the press record anyway. See someone try to manhandle a reporter following rights under the I Amendment manhandled out of a press pool meeting. Show them for the fascists they are.

One reporter gets roughed up or manhandled out of a press meeting for daring to record video, the whole press will be down on the GOP like a ton of bricks.

They’re going to get someone killed, not manhandled or roughed up. Trump goads his supporters; riles them up to the point that someone, press or someone anti-Trump is going to get hurt bad or die.

That’s not a good idea at all.

And Trump is such a psychopath that he wouldn’t care. He’d think they deserved it for not worshipping him.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:35:22pm

re: #88 FormerDirtDart

Hell is other kitties.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:35:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:38:41pm

re: #109 MsJ

They’re going to get someone killed, not manhandled or roughed up. Trump goads his supporters; riles them up to the point that someone, press or someone anti-Trump is going to get hurt bad or die.

That’s not a good idea at all.

And Trump is such a psychopath that he wouldn’t care. He’d think they deserved it for not worshipping him.

“The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

That is not a slogan for the NRA. That is a slogan for those of us who would stand up for our Constitution.

All my life I have been (in the military and politics) under an an affirmation I would die for the Constitution if necessary. That includes Freedom of the Press.

Journalists who become famous are not those who take the safe route. They are those who do things like infiltrate enemy lines to talk to opponents. Those willing to risk their careers (like Bob Woodward) to get the facts of a corrupt government.

They are heroes, not magic balance fairy presenters like Chuck Todd.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:42:49pm

It is quite clear: Just like the II Amendment open-carry wingnuts that assert their right to open carry firearms, the press must assert its right to do its constitutionally-protected job.

If the press rolls over for fear someone might threaten or kill them, then they will lose the right of Freedom of the Press.

Katy Tur was not deterred. She persisted while she covered the Trump campaign. Lauren Duca of Teen Vogue is the same.

They are standing up for the right to inform the public. They should be supported, not told “well, take the safe route.”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:45:53pm

re: #45 Jay C

Thanx for the tip: any way to do that for Macs? Especially iPads?

On an iPhone or iPad, tap and hold anywhere in the text, then “Select All” from the popup.

On a desktop Mac, click anywhere in the text, type command-A, then Delete.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:46:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:48:04pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

On an iPhone or iPad, tap and hold anywhere in the text, then “Select All” from the popup.

On a desktop Mac, click anywhere in the text, type command-A, then Delete.

“Types ‘Command-A’ then Delete” Apple warns this could cause the Universe to disappear. They will come out with a patch to fix that in the next month.

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:50:07pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:50:44pm

This is what a cult fanatic looks like==>

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:54:06pm

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

“The enemy?”

Well, that sounds like the GOP my whole life in describing liberals, taken to its logical conclusion.

Enemies can be jailed, tortured, killed.

Conservatives such as Mr. Mitchell don’t view people with differing opinions on politics as people to negotiate with; they have (at least my entire life) viewed us as “enemies of the state.”

This is why I have never, not once, voted for a Republican.

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teleskiguy  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:55:26pm

Free Phish webcast. They’re just finishing up Peaches En Regalia.

Live from The Nutter Center 7/18/17

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:55:36pm

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

Especially since the definition of MAGA is so fluid.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:56:38pm

re: #117 jaunte

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All he ever does is dine & schmooze. It’s going to get old.

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:57:13pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:57:25pm

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹

“The enemy?”

Well, that sounds like the GOP my whole life in describing liberals, taken to its logical conclusion.

Enemies can be jailed, tortured, killed.

Conservatives such as Mr. Mitchell don’t view people with differing opinions on politics as people to negotiate with; they have (at least my entire life) viewed us as “enemies of the state.”

This is why I have never, not once, voted for a Republican.

Like Eric Trump, Bill believes liberals are “not really people”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:58:28pm

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

Like Eric Trump, Bill believes liberals are “not really people”

Neither has any other Republican I have ever run across.

My own representative said publicly he only represents Republicans.

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 4:58:43pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

We’ll find out how the GOP senators enjoy being threatened by someone who doesn’t care what they’re voting on as long as he can call it a win.

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Jay C  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:00:39pm

re: #117 jaunte

All 52 of them? Isn’t that going to get a bit crowded?
Is Trump going to give them all box lunches and sit them on folding chairs in the Oval Office?
(and do a slideshow for timeshares at Mar-a-Lago?)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:00:40pm
Irakly “Ike” Kaveladze, 52, is the eighth person known to have taken part in the unusual Trump Tower meeting on June 9, 2016, The Times has learned. His identity was not previously disclosed.

Kaveladze, who lives in Huntington Beach, is an employee of a large Russian real estate development firm. He was the focus of a scathing congressional inquiry in 2000 into alleged Russian money laundering through banks in California and New York but was not charged.

Investigators for special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, who is leading the federal probe into possible coordination between the Trump presidential campaign and the Russian government, have asked to interview Kaveladze, according to Scott Balber, Kaveladze’s lawyer.

Balber said his client was “cooperating fully” with investigators. Mueller’s office declined to comment. No one answered the door or the phone at Kaveladze’s three-story home in a gated community in Huntington Beach. A dresser and other small pieces of furniture sat on the front lawn.

More: latimes.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:00:49pm
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piratedan  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:01:00pm

trying to sit back and imagine the reaction from the Right if this had happened at any other time over the last…. 100 years… or alone with the Chinese premier… plus, with all of the media speculation regarding the influence and what not… and Trump obviously has no worries about how its perceived.

just absolutely incredible… and no one on the right says a thing…. crickets…

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Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:01:30pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:02:00pm

re: #131 piratedan

trying to sit back and imagine the reaction from the Right if this had happened at any other time over the last…. 100 years… or alone with the Chinese premier… plus, with all of the media speculation regarding the influence and what not… and Trump obviously has no worries about how its perceived.

just absolutely incredible… and no one on the right says a thing…. crickets…

“Only Nixon could have gone to China.”

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:02:12pm
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A dark and stormy covfefe  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:04:21pm

If only it were so easy…

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lawhawk  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:06:35pm

re: #9 Stanley Sea

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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:09:34pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:10:15pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:11:36pm
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jaunte  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:14:00pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:15:03pm

Second guy isn’t the real Don Jr…Still an ass though.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:16:05pm

re: #135 A dark and stormy covfefe

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piratedan  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:17:54pm

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

yeah but I don’t think tricky Dicky was ever alone with the Chinese without any Americans in the room

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:18:25pm

re: #71 Kragar

Out of the loop today. What’s Molly’s tweet in reply to? I know it’s about Trump, obviously. But I can’t figure out exactly. lol

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makeitstop  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:19:46pm

re: #85 ObserverArt

Is Fox going to turn on Trump…maybe they are seeing they need to so they can ready for the downfall? Sure seems to be some shifts occurring.

Don’t be fooled by Shep. He gets to be the conscience every once in a while.

Remember how indignant he got in the aftermath of Katrina? Kim Davis? The Iraq War?

It’s part of his job description.

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:20:04pm

re: #145 GlutenFreeJesus

Out of the loop today. What’s Molly’s tweet in reply to? I know it’s about Trump, obviously. But I can’t figure out exactly. lol

I looked but couldn’t find anything. I was wondering the same thing.

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:21:55pm

re: #71 Kragar

I don’t remember this being in the movie, but I could watch it all night:

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EPR-radar  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:23:46pm

re: #44 No Depression

This shit is a big reason I’m not a Republican anymore. The party is run by total fucking morons with a tenuous grasp on reality.

The GOP is definitely the party of ‘check your brain at the door’.

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EPR-radar  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:32:23pm

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

Neither has any other Republican I have ever run across.

My own representative said publicly he only represents Republicans.

This business of seeing non-Republicans as not-people also showed up in DF’s posts here from time to time.

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:32:41pm
152
bratwurst  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:32:57pm

FAKE NEWS blah blah blah

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:33:11pm

re: #145 GlutenFreeJesus

Out of the loop today. What’s Molly’s tweet in reply to? I know it’s about Trump, obviously. But I can’t figure out exactly. lol

I’m assuming it’s in response to Trumpcare failing. He’s saying he doesn’t own it.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:36:03pm

re: #152 bratwurst

FAKE NEWS blah blah blah

[Embedded content]

Of course Fucker Carlson tries to blame Hillary. His agitprop is more odious and annoying that Lumpy.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:39:33pm

Yep, he likes to dine & schmooze.

So predictable, Russia has our number.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:39:48pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:39:54pm

re: #153 Belafon

I’m assuming it’s in response to Trumpcare failing. He’s saying he doesn’t own it.

I got the feeling that she’s saying that Trump does own it, even if he doesn’t want to have his name on it. He can’t disown Trumpcare because it failed.

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BeachDem  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:41:23pm

re: #128 Jay C

[Embedded content]

All 52 of them? Isn’t that going to get a bit crowded?
Is Trump going to give them all box lunches and sit them on folding chairs in the Oval Office?
(and do a slideshow for timeshares at Mar-a-Lago?)

It’ll probably be as classy as the Christmas party he had for reporters at Mar-a-Gaudy.

(nothing says festive like bags o’chips)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:41:27pm

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

This is what a cult fanatic looks like==>

[Embedded content]

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steve_davis  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:41:51pm

re: #39 darthstar

Nice pic of my boy Banjo taken by a friend with a really nice camera.

[Embedded content]

German Sheperd had drunk sex with a Palomino? Beautiful dog!!

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EPR-radar  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:41:59pm

re: #151 MsJ

‘The Trumps and the Truth’ are like matter and antimatter. Literally.

If tr*mp were to go on the record with a true statement on a substantive political issue, he’d spontaneously explode.

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:42:10pm

Thread.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:43:59pm

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

This is what a cult fanatic looks like==>

[Embedded content]

The Lord Haw-Haw of our times. Only this untalented, one-note turd is as funny as a root canal with no anaesthetic.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:44:09pm

re: #152 bratwurst

FAKE NEWS blah blah blah

[Embedded content]

If Clinton has connections to Russia, why did Russia collude with Trump and reveal harmful emails which targeted only the DNC?

Fox “News” sounds really desperate and stupid.

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:45:14pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

My god

[Embedded content]

The whole administration is ignorant. And lazy. They can’t even Google Huntsman’s name to check it. They assumed it was John.

However, all organizations are top down. So, they are all reflective of the boss Donny Trump.

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gocart mozart  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:47:36pm

Heh.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:50:39pm

The “burn” is leveled on Christie at the end of the clip

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:51:06pm

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:51:34pm

re: #151 MsJ

But they’re still taking swipes at the Clintons and Democrats. Plus, they appear to believe that Trump can salvage his reputation as if that’s something of importance.

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:54:54pm

re: #117 jaunte

Frank Thorp V ✔ @frankthorp
Pres Trump has invited all GOP Senators to the WH for lunch tomorrow to talk Health Care and “other issues”, @albamonica reports.
7:33 PM - 18 Jul 2017
38 38 Retweets 39 39 likes

Really reaching out to the Democratic Senators there Donny.

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dangerman  Jul 18, 2017 • 5:59:13pm

re: #149 EPR-radar

The GOP is definitely the party of ‘check your brain at the door’.

Party before reality

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 18, 2017 • 6:00:06pm

So Trump has a 2nd meeting with Putin and Putin’s translator, in secret. Uh. Putin speaks English himself… Anyone want to take an educated guess as to what that translator’s real line of work is…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2017 • 6:01:04pm

re: #150 EPR-radar

This business of seeing non-Republicans as not-people also showed up in DF’s posts here from time to time.

Dark Falcon was here long before I signed up. At least in my conversations with him I did not see that.

That said, folk here who have reported on his posts over at Twitter say he’s fallen full Trumpster (aside from his family claims about voting - which also gets me wondering: neither my sister nor my mother asked me who I voted for - Why was Dark Falcon so concerned about his father on that issue?)

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ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2017 • 6:03:00pm

re: #146 makeitstop

Don’t be fooled by Shep. He gets to be the conscience every once in a while.

Remember how indignant he got in the aftermath of Katrina? Kim Davis? The Iraq War?

It’s part of his job description.

I admit I am not fully up on the characters many of the Fox News people play on TV.

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 6:07:32pm

re: #164 Patricia Kayden

If Clinton has connections to Russia, why did Russia collude with Trump and reveal harmful emails which targeted only the DNC?

Fox “News” sounds really desperate and stupid.

Logic is not a conservatives friend.

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2017 • 6:14:23pm

re: #166 gocart mozart

Heh.

[Embedded content]

That was hysterical!! 😂🤣😂

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sagehen  Jul 18, 2017 • 6:29:13pm

re: #145 GlutenFreeJesus

Out of the loop today. What’s Molly’s tweet in reply to? I know it’s about Trump, obviously. But I can’t figure out exactly. lol

I’m guessing it was about him saying he doesn’t want to own this healthcare fiasco.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 18, 2017 • 6:31:53pm

re: #163 Myron Falwell

The Lord Haw-Haw of our times. Only this untalented, one-note turd is as funny as a root canal with no anaesthetic.

Hannity is the Lord Haw Haw of our time. Bill Mitchell is just some random Hitlerjugend singing the Horst Wessel Lied.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jul 18, 2017 • 6:35:23pm

re: #39 darthstar

Is that a golf disc?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 18, 2017 • 6:42:47pm

re: #172 GlutenFreeJesus

So Trump has a 2nd meeting with Putin and Putin’s translator, in secret. Uh. Putin speaks English himself… Anyone want to take an educated guess as to what that translator’s real line of work is…

Pimp?


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Recycling Chaos in U.S. As China Bans ‘Foreign Waste’ Like many Portland residents, Satish and Arlene Palshikar are serious recyclers. Their house is coated with recycled bluish-white paint. They recycle their rainwater, compost their food waste and carefully separate the paper and plastic they toss out. But recently, ...
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Trump Jerusalem Move: Tear Gas at Lebanon US Embassy Protest There have been violent clashes near the US embassy in Lebanon, in the latest protest against President Donald Trump's decision to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Security forces fired tear gas and water cannon to force back ...
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Trump Says He and Trudeau Disagree on Trade Deficit. U.S. Stats Seem to Be on the PM’s SideHair Furor just can't seem to catch a break these days....Despite Trump's insistence the U.S. has a trade deficit with Canada, statistics from the website of the office of the U.S. Trade Representative -- the office handling NAFTA negotiations -- ...
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Blondie - Doom or Destiny (Official Video)Blondie performing "Doom or Destiny" from the new album "Pollinator".Out Now: blondie.lnk.to Follow Blondiefacebook.cominstagram.com@BlondieOfficial vevo.ly
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Beth Hart & Joe Bonamassa - Black Coffee (Official Music Video) Official video for Black Coffee from the new Beth Hart & Joe Bonamassa album Black Coffee. Pre-order: smarturl.it BLACK COFFEE is available to pre-order on CD and vinyl. The limited CD box includes 2 coasters, a postcard and an ...
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