Deranged Trump Tweet of the Day: “Dems Scream Death!”

Ranting about death
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Donald Trump has ordered the Republican Senators into his imperial chamber for “lunch,” so he can try one last time to badger them into voting for the most monstrous health care legislation ever imagined by human beings.

And to kick off the festivities he posted one of his trademark utterly deranged tweets this morning, in which he inexplicably promises that Trumpcare will “get even better at lunchtime,” and seems to be referring to the fact that millions of people will be essentially condemned to death if this horrible bill is enacted. Gloating about it, actually.

“The Dems scream death as OCare dies!” Politics in the era of the Trump Horror.

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439 comments
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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:01:27am

Dems worry that millions will suffer needlessly and many will die as a direct result and consequence of Trump/GOP actions on health care alone.

The GOP is concerned for millionaires so that they get more tax breaks while shifting the burden to everyone else.

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:03:02am

He’s sure starting to look and sound desperate for a win, any win.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:03:36am

They are not giving up, even for this cycle.

“President Trump hasn’t given up on the stalled Senate health care bill, and has reached out to Sen. Mike Lee to see what it would take to get him back on board, the Washington Examiner reports. Lee, who was one of two GOP senators who pulled the plug on the bill Monday night, told Trump he still wants to let health insurers get out of more Affordable Care Act regulations. Trump seemed open to his suggestions, a spokesman told the Examiner.”

axios.com

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:04:04am

re: #2 makeitstop

The GOP might deliver him a blank paper for him to sign, just to keep Trump from going off the deep end. I doubt Trump would know the difference.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:04:40am

Just composed a response to Stanley Sea regarding contacting Senators about the healthcare legislation. I think it important and hope everyone uses it so here it is again.

- - -

Start with Mitch McConnell. Being that he is Majority Leader he should take emails and calls from everyone.

Here is his contact form online. I checked it, it will take contacts from all US citizens.

Contact Form for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell

I think many Senators allow outside contacts. I don’t remember Ohio’s Rob Portman asking for Ohio info, he too allows outsiders. Since he is on the fence and struggling you might contact him.

Contact Form Ohio Senator Rob Portman

I use these online contact forms because they do get to them. Many of the GOP Senators are not taking phone calls.

Just use Google and type in “contact Senator (Name)” and the forms pop up. Look for www.(Lastname).senate.gov as the web address.

Here is a general link to contact info for ALL U.S. Senate members. I think the links go to all of their contact forms like those linked above.

Senators of the 115th Congress

Let ‘em have it! But be fairly nice as in no cussing, etc. Sugar coat your hate for them and this legislation.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:05:03am

It’s important to realize also that a lot of these Republicans don’t want to vote for this bill because it isn’t horrible enough.

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nines09  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:05:30am

re: #2 makeitstop

He’s sure starting to look and sound desperate for a win, any win.

He would stand on a stack of dead American bodies to scream “I WIN!” and the present GOP would applaud and laugh and have a beer…

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:07:10am

Hey Donnie;

Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution requires the President to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.”

Obamacare is law and you swore an oath to uphold the law.

Lock him up.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:07:55am

re: #3 Decatur Deb

Lee, who was one of two GOP senators who pulled the plug on the bill Monday night, told Trump he still wants to let health insurers get out of more Affordable Care Act regulations. Trump seemed open to his suggestions, a spokesman told the Examiner.”

Damn lazy pre-existing condition money-grabbers are preventing us being able to MAGA.

///

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:09:43am

Sigh. Later.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:12:34am

Cheeto Pendejo is also spewing deranged shit about his bogus “Voter Fraud Commission”

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:15:24am

re: #8 b.d.

Hey Donnie;

Obamacare is law and you swore an oath to uphold the law.

Lock him up.

he might just as well say “social security should end. i’m going to stop all social security checks today”

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:17:13am

re: #5 ObserverArt

Just composed a response to Stanley Sea regarding contacting Senators about the healthcare legislation. I think it important and hope everyone uses it so here it is again.

- - -

Start with Mitch McConnell. Being that he is Majority Leader he should take emails and calls from everyone.

Here is his contact form online. I checked it, it will take contacts from all US citizens.

Contact Form for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell

I think many Senators allow outside contacts. I don’t remember Ohio’s Rob Portman asking for Ohio info, he too allows outsiders. Since he is on the fence and struggling you might contact him.

Contact Form Ohio Senator Rob Portman

I use these online contact forms because they do get to them. Many of the GOP Senators are not taking phone calls.

Just use Google and type in “contact Senator (Name)” and the forms pop up. Look for www.(Lastname).senate.gov as the web address.

Here is a general link to contact info for ALL U.S. Senate members. I think the links go to all of their contact forms like those linked above.

Senators of the 115th Congress

Let ‘em have it! But be fairly nice as in no cussing, etc. Sugar coat your hate for them and this legislation.

Thank you!! Calling now. filling out forms.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:17:33am

re: #11 The Vicious Babushka

Cheeto Pendejo is also spewing deranged shit about his bogus “Voter Fraud Commission”

[Embedded content]Trump, lying again, says people in some states personally “saw” voting irregularities

simple q to ask them - how exactly did you spot voting irregularities? did you report them?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:18:35am

re: #14 dangerman

simple q to ask them - how exactly did you spot voting irregularities? did you report them?

WE HAD TO WAIT IN LINE WITH A BUNCH OF BROWN PEOPLE!!! SOME OF THEM WAS TALKING TO EACH OTHER IN A FOREIGN LANGUAGE!!!!! VOTE FRAUDS!!!!!!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:18:52am
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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:20:07am

re: #15 The Vicious Babushka

WE HAD TO WAIT IN LINE WITH A BUNCH OF BROWN PEOPLE!!! SOME OF THEM WAS TALKING TO EACH OTHER IN A FOREIGN LANGUAGE!!!!! VOTE FRAUDS!!!!!!

there is no bottom the the depth and creativity of derp is there?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:23:51am

re: #11 The Vicious Babushka

Cheeto Pendejo is also spewing deranged shit about his bogus “Voter Fraud Commission”

[Embedded content]

“Trump, lying again, says people in some states personally “saw” voting irregularities.”

Then let these people stand up in a court of law, under oath, and tell their stories.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:24:53am

re: #11 The Vicious Babushka

Is there anything in the world that is less credible as evidence than politically-charged anecdotes from wingnuts?

That’s all this I personally saw millions of illegals voting in my precinct! garbage is.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:25:44am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:25:47am

re: #19 EPR-radar

Is there anything in the world that is less credible as evidence than politically-charged anecdotes from wingnuts?

That all this I personally saw millions of illegals voting in my precinct! garbage is.

Consider the fact that the handful of actual voter fraud cases have been Trump voters.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:26:32am

re: #14 dangerman

simple q to ask them - how exactly did you spot voting irregularities? did you report them?

Illegal voters are easy to spot. They all look like Hottentots, with bones through their noses. Except for all the ones that look like Mexican bandits and rapists. I can always tell.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:27:11am

re: #3 Decatur Deb

They are not giving up, even for this cycle.

“President Trump hasn’t given up on the stalled Senate health care bill, and has reached out to Sen. Mike Lee to see what it would take to get him back on board, the Washington Examiner reports. Lee, who was one of two GOP senators who pulled the plug on the bill Monday night, told Trump he still wants to let health insurers get out of more Affordable Care Act regulations. Trump seemed open to his suggestions, a spokesman told the Examiner.”

axios.com

Getting out of regulations will require 60 votes.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:27:48am

re: #14 dangerman

simple q to ask them - how exactly did you spot voting irregularities? did you report them?

“I spotted them. Everybody saw them. Many people. All the time. Happens easily. Everybody knows.”

///

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:29:48am

re: #23 Belafon

Getting out of regulations will require 60 votes.

Unless McConnell blows up that part of the rules.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:30:04am
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:30:59am

re: #26 Stanley Sea

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Because, fuck those children!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:31:04am
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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:31:44am

re: #20 Kragar

Absolutely shocking report of successful FSB operation in DC, where Russia infiltrated congress through Rohrabacher

That son of a bitch should be frog-marched out of his office.

How much more obvious are these Putin stooges going to get before we start arresting them?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:31:48am

re: #26 Stanley Sea

Here’s Dump’s “win”. Go crazy with your badself.

/

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:32:45am

re: #23 Belafon

Getting out of regulations will require 60 votes.

So…still dead. No way they’ll get 8 Dems to sign on to that.

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darthstar  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:33:05am
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Scottish Dragon  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:33:48am

Trump could stop the Thursday insurance payments and blow up the markets tonight according to Politico…

I wouldn’t put it past him.

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darthstar  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:34:10am

re: #32 darthstar

Honestly, they should be married to each other…they have similar interests.

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:34:17am

re: #25 EPR-radar

Unless McConnell blows up that part of the rules.

I don’t think he can do that. They were already working under reconciliation and failed.

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Interesting Times  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:34:49am

re: #31 makeitstop

So…still dead. No way they’ll get 8 Dems to sign on to that.

Can Yertle the Sociopathic Turtle kill the filibuster for that as easily as he did the one for Gorsuck the Seat Stealer?

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:36:07am

re: #36 Interesting Times

Can Yertle the Sociopathic Turtle kill the filibuster for that as easily as he did the one for Gorsuck the Seat Stealer?

Maybe.

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:36:50am

re: #2 makeitstop

He’s sure starting to look and sound desperate for a win, any win.

And here I thought he signed more bills than anyone in the history of humans breathing!

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darthstar  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:37:41am

Now I’ve got that fucking song stuck in my head…”Yes I like Pina Coladas…”

Though I suspect they weren’t singing that in South Carolina.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:38:27am

re: #32 darthstar

How come Florida Man and Florida Woman didn’t think of this?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:39:19am

re: #30 Sir John Barron

Here’s Dump’s “win”. Go crazy with your badself.

/

They left in place lower court allowing Grandparents.

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darthstar  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:41:02am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:41:19am

re: #41 Stanley Sea

They left in place lower court allowing Grandparents.

Trump gets this message, tells his lunch gathering of GOP senators he’s gotta go and tweet stuff and see ya later.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:41:25am

HA! I bet the yam will be distracted by the SCOTUS news & flap about it through the whole healthcare lunch.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:41:29am

re: #25 EPR-radar

Unless McConnell blows up that part of the rules.

I don’t why he would do that if he can’t get Republicans together on the current bill. At least the 60ct threshold allows him to say Democrats are blocking it.

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:41:32am

re: #20 Kragar

McCarthy and Ryan - the House GOP leadership laughed their asses off over who they thought were bought and paid for by Russia.

Who’d they think were in the employ of Russia?

Rohrabacher and Trump.

Want to know why Rohrabacher is asking about Martians? Because it deflects from the fact that he is entirely compromised by Russia’s pal Putin.

So, who’s left defending this regime?

Scott Adams:

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:41:39am

re: #13 Stanley Sea

Me too!! While I’m on a conference call.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:43:03am

re: #26 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content] BREAKING: Supreme Court says Trump administration can enforce refugee ban for now.

we only need 90 days to ”figure out what’s going on’

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:43:04am

re: #43 Sir John Barron

ha!!

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:45:18am

re: #42 darthstar

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Nice senate seat ya got there, shame if something happened to it!

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:45:32am

re: #42 darthstar

I almost want to support Heller’s reelection just to show the GOP that Trump doesn’t have that kind of control over them.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:46:16am
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:46:38am

re: #21 The Vicious Babushka

Consider the fact that the handful of actual voter fraud cases have been Trump voters.

The people too stupid to figure out the cost-benefit ratio of in-person voter fraud.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:47:54am

re: #42 darthstar

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He sure does. That might be why he voted No.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:48:02am

re: #46 lawhawk

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:48:18am
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:48:44am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:49:28am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:50:54am

re: #32 darthstar

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Wonder if he asked her if she likes Pina Coladas.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:51:08am

re: #42 darthstar

Maybe he wants to protect his constituents, to Make Nevada Great Again.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:51:38am

re: #58 Unshaken Defiance

The past six years were a bubble. This is real because.

/

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darthstar  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:51:42am
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sagehen  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:52:28am

re: #11 The Vicious Babushka

Speaking to his voter fraud commission, Trump again implied, based on nothing, that non-citizens are voting in large numbers:

Well…. Vladamir Putin is a non-citizen, and he voted in large numbers.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:52:46am

re: #36 Interesting Times

Can Yertle the Sociopathic Turtle kill the filibuster for that as easily as he did the one for Gorsuck the Seat Stealer?

I don’t think he can get 50 GOP votes to kill the filibuster. Senators love their prerogatives and traditions.

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VegasGolfer  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:53:03am

re: #60 Sir John Barron

Maybe he wants to protect his constituents, to Make Nevada Great Again.

Heller is a lying’ sack just like trump, he cannot be trusted to keep his word. He will be gone next election

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Amory Blaine  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:53:17am

Toe suckling musings.

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darthstar  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:53:58am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:54:41am

re: #66 Amory Blaine

Toe suckling musings.

LUNCH ALERT!!!!

/

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:57:17am

McConnell & Heller down.

Working on Portman now.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:57:53am
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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:00:03am

re: #66 Amory Blaine

Only 6,000 People Have Serious Pre-Existing Conditions now

Wait’ll they get done, that number will go way up.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:01:25am

re: #55 Timothy Watson

[Embedded content]

Adams started a Dilbert series on “fake news” and rumors a few weeks ago then abandoned it, but clearly it’s been festering in his mind. The theme will probably pop up again.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:01:30am

re: #66 Amory Blaine

That’s a suspiciously round number. As if it was pulled directly from an orifice.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:02:11am

Murkowski’s contact form is the spinning wheel of death.

Good. She’s getting overrun.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:02:42am

re: #39 darthstar

Dear Penthouse…

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A Mom Anon  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:02:44am

re: #66 Amory Blaine

That fucking moron. Autism would be a pre-existing condition if we go back to the way shit was and the new shit they want to add to the list. I know from experience. So would any form of mental illness and a whole host of other things.

I hate these assholes. Our country won’t be right again until we can ferret all these fucks out of their current “careers” and they end up cleaning toilets and picking up trash for a living. (and no, I am not disparaging those jobs, I’ve done both, and at least I slept at night because I was doing honest work)

There’s a special level of hell for these motherfuckers.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:04:17am

re: #73 jaunte

That’s a suspiciously round number. As if it was pulled directly from an orifice.

Along with his definition of “serious” I am sure.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:05:21am

re: #66 Amory Blaine

Toe suckling musings.

[Embedded content] Only 6,000 People Have Serious Pre-Existing Conditions

NOT by the definition insurers have historically been using to disqualify claims

cf: acne

ps - “serious” is *any* condition that would be used deny you coverage. not it’s health severity

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A Mom Anon  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:06:49am

re: #77 Timothy Watson

What about cancer survivors? I wonder if that’s serious enough for that bloated, gelatinous creature? 6K applies to literally nothing related to the truth here at all. GAH.

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I cannot.  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:12:03am

re: #66 Amory Blaine

That might be the dumbest thing I read this week. And I didn’t even click on the article, that’s some high-octane stupid.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:12:11am

re: #77 Timothy Watson

Along with his definition of “serious” I am sure.

Along with Dick Morris himself.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:13:04am

re: #80 I cannot.

That might be the dumbest thing I read this week. And I didn’t even click on the article, that’s some high-octane stupid.

You just spared yourself some brain cells I’m sure. I can’t risk losing any so I didn’t read either. We are not required to read anything written by or tweeted by Dick Morris.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:14:01am

A new Public Policy Polling survey finds that 32% of Americans who voted for President Trump said they don’t believe that Trump’s eldest son met with a Russian lawyer last year — even though he admitted that he did.

italics mine because its beyond baffling
(unless those 32% actually have no idea what’s going on and don’t know he admitted it, i guess)
((or the ‘he admitted it’ story is fake news))
or??????

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:14:22am

re: #66 Amory Blaine

Toe suckling musings.

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That’s still 6000 people with family and loved ones, you fucking hack.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:15:11am

re: #83 dangerman

A new Public Policy Polling survey finds that 32% of Americans who voted for President Trump said they don’t believe that Trump’s eldest son met with a Russian lawyer last year — even though he admitted that he did.

italics mine because its beyond baffling
(unless those 32% actually have no idea what’s going on and don’t know he admitted it, i guess)
((or the ‘he admitted it’ story is fake news))
or??????

Can we call them stupid morons yet?

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:15:17am

re: #80 I cannot.

That might be the dumbest thing I read this week. And I didn’t even click on the article, that’s some high-octane stupid.

see my #83 above

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:15:22am

re: #83 dangerman

A new Public Policy Polling survey finds that 32% of Americans who voted for President Trump said they don’t believe that Trump’s eldest son met with a Russian lawyer last year — even though he admitted that he did.

italics mine because its beyond baffling
(unless those 32% actually have no idea what’s going on and don’t know he admitted it, i guess)
((or the ‘he admitted it’ story is fake news))
or??????

They just don’t pay attention to the news.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:16:47am

Snoop-Dogg, the book reviewer:

Image: GxYH0zR.jpg

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:17:26am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

That’s still 6000 people with family and loved ones, you fucking hack.

He’s elaborating the GOP position that there are “acceptable losses.”

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:17:36am

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Can we call them stupid morons yet?

1954 Battle of the Bulge, Robert Ryan
“Gentleman, I’ve decided to commit my armor”

so, yeah.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:17:47am

re: #79 A Mom Anon

What about cancer survivors? I wonder if that’s serious enough for that bloated, gelatinous creature? 6K applies to literally nothing related to the truth here at all. GAH.

Exactly. Really fuck Morris and his party.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:18:16am

re: #89 jaunte

He’s elaborating the GOP position that there are “acceptable losses.”

I’m old enough to remember when W Bush talked about a “culture of life.”

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:19:10am

re: #92 HappyWarrior

It seems they’ve stopped papering over the inconsistencies.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:19:34am

re: #66 Amory Blaine

Toe suckling musings.

[Embedded content] Only 6,000 People Have Serious Pre-Existing Conditions - Lunch Alert!

“can i mambo dogpatch to the banana factory” makes about as much sense

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:20:55am

re: #83 dangerman

A new Public Policy Polling survey finds that 32% of Americans who voted for President Trump said they don’t believe that Trump’s eldest son met with a Russian lawyer last year — even though he admitted that he did.

italics mine because its beyond baffling
(unless those 32% actually have no idea what’s going on and don’t know he admitted it, i guess)
((or the ‘he admitted it’ story is fake news))
or??????

As the old proverb goes, there are none so blind as those who will not see.

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:21:27am

re: #94 dangerman

“can i mambo dogpatch to the banana factory” makes about as much sense

More than Dick Morris’s gibberings, for sure…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:21:37am

re: #66 Amory Blaine

Toe suckling musings.

The GOP doesn’t really want to play this game, this numbers game, do they?

Well, OK.

I wonder how many—possibly tens of people—pay the Obamacare taxes the GOP is desperate to eliminate at the cost of healthcare coverage for millions?

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Amory Blaine  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:22:06am

re: #80 I cannot.

That might be the dumbest thing I read this week. And I didn’t even click on the article, that’s some high-octane stupid.

I thought you guys would like that. :D

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:22:18am

Anyhoo, here’s a much-needed sanity break, courtesy of Guillermo del Toro.

The Shape of Water - Official Trailer

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:24:44am

re: #66 Amory Blaine

He’s an idiot, a liar, or both. There are more than six thousand just with epilepsy in the USA. (The number is closer to 2.2 million.)

Only Alzheimer’s Disease (spell check wants that as altimeter’s disease), strokes, and migraine headaches are more common neurological disorders in the USA than epilepsy, and all four of those were pre-existing conditions for which you could not get health insurance (and still cannot get life insurance except the migraines).

What they really want is the American equivalent of Nazi Germany’s Aktion T4 and just kill us. Cheaper that way.

I went to the Post Office to mail the water samples I had to do today. The postmistress was listening to the radio and FOX News came on for the hourly report. They skew their news nicely to blame everything wrong with the Trump administration on the Democrats. I wanted to reach across the counter and strangle the radio.

We need to get the propaganda arm of the GOP out of the middle of the country. Between Sinclair, FOX, and Christian hate radio, there is no other news (unless you have access to the Internet).

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:28:03am

Dems should sneak in a clause stating “I, Donald Trump, hereby resign in disgrace.” to any and all bills put forth in the House. Just to see if it gets to Trump’s desk for him to sign. :)))

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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:28:42am

Has anyone here heard of Isik Abla? She styles herself as a former Muslim jihadist, but now is born-again Christian type. I’ve never heard of her till today when someone posted one of her videos at another site.

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:29:50am

Oh, allegro….

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:30:06am

People can be so frustratingly heartless. The SPLC had people telling their stories about being berated for using food stamps. And it just frustrates me how people can be upset at people using the government to help feed, clothe, or shelter their family but not at things like military waste or police abuse.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:32:00am

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹

What they really want is the American equivalent of Nazi Germany’s Aktion T4 and just kill us. Cheaper that way.

I seem to recall that was an actual wingnut talking point about Obamacare. They tweeted memes about it and everything.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:34:32am
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Jay C  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:34:40am

re: #101 GlutenFreeJesus

Dems should sneak in a clause stating “I, Donald Trump, hereby resign in disgrace.” to any and all bills put forth in the House. Just to see if it gets to Trump’s desk for him to sign. :)))

Clause? I’m half-convinced that if someone slipped a Nixon-like formal Letter Of Resignation in at the bottom of a stack of the usual meaningless Executive Order crap that clutters Trump’s desk, he’d probably just sign it (and then wave it around with a big SE grin)…

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:34:53am

re: #62 darthstar

tr*mp and the Republicans really need to go, or this kind of thing won’t mean anything going forward.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:36:37am

“You look suspicious.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:36:51am

re: #102 wheat-dogg

Has anyone here heard of Isik Abla? She styles herself as a former Muslim jihadist, but now is born-again Christian type. I’ve never heard of her till today when someone posted one of her videos at another site.

Işık Abla has about seven thousand subscribers on YouTube. She claims on her channel to be a former Muslim woman who was abused. She appears to be ethnically Turkish, and has only been posting videos for two months.

She goes into the usual sort of wingnut Evangelical Christianity about witchcraft, miracles (suspension of the laws of physics), &c.

She seems to post in three languages: English, Turkish, and Farsi.

She is also very prolific (while I was writing this she posted another video to her channel).

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Amory Blaine  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:37:34am

Where’s B_S ? I hope it’s nothing serious. :/

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:37:34am

re: #105 The Vicious Babushka

I seem to recall that was an actual wingnut talking point about Obamacare. They tweeted memes about it and everything.

It’s projection with them, always. They project on liberals what they want to do themselves. The sum of the GOP all my life.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:37:41am

re: #78 dangerman

NOT by the definition insurers have historically been using to disqualify claims

cf: acne

ps - “serious” is *any* condition that would be used deny you coverage. not it’s health severity

Right. An undocumented hangnail in 3rd grade could be used to deny an insurance claim, the way the insurers were proceeding before the ACA.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:37:51am

re: #106 jaunte

President with approval rating below 40% threatens Senator for opposition to bill with approval rating below 20%.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:37:56am

re: #95 Dr Lizardo

I have been looking at timelines and articles and charts. This Trump Russia thing is thicker than Machiavelli multiplied by Shakespeare. We need a fact check list of truly confirmed facts and events. Try and make a manageable guide. Big job tho.

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:37:58am

re: #109 jaunte

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“You look suspicious.”

Step out of the Porsche, please.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:38:10am

re: #109 jaunte

High times for fascists.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:38:21am

re: #111 Amory Blaine

Where’s B_S ? I hope it’s nothing serious. :/

Think someone posted about her taking it easy on count of the heat.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:38:36am

re: #116 makeitstop

“The department needs eight new pickups.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:39:53am

re: #115 Unshaken Defiance

I have been looking at timelines and articles and charts. This Trump Russia thing is thicker than Machiavelli multiplied by Shakespeare. We need a fact check list of truly confirmed facts and events. Try and make a manageable guide. Big job tho.

Even if Trump admitted it all on live national TV, there’s a part of his fanbase that would still claim it’s not true.

Blind fanaticism at it’s finest most disturbing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:39:57am

re: #109 jaunte

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“You look suspicious.”

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:40:09am

re: #83 dangerman

A new Public Policy Polling survey finds that 32% of Americans who voted for President Trump said they don’t believe that Trump’s eldest son met with a Russian lawyer last year — even though he admitted that he did.

italics mine because its beyond baffling
(unless those 32% actually have no idea what’s going on and don’t know he admitted it, i guess)
((or the ‘he admitted it’ story is fake news))
or??????

It’s actually very simple. Republicans don’t give a shit about either truth or reality. It is politically useful for tr*mp supporters to deny everything about tr*mp/Russia. Therefore they do it. That’s really all there is to is.

This is the Republican approach on all issues. Politics comes first, talking points are generated accordingly and promulgated. Truth and reality are completely irrelevant.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:41:39am

re: #116 makeitstop

Step out of the Porsche, please.

Legalised theft.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:43:10am

re: #121 The Vicious Babushka

Let’s see if the National Rifle Association takes a stand against this. That would certainly put the GOP in a bind with one of their most prolific donors.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:44:12am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

Legalised theft.

I confess to some surprise that the supposed champions of private property are so eager for government to seize assets without due process.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:44:36am

re: #125 Blind Frog Belly White

They think it won’t happen to them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:46:19am

re: #126 jaunte

They think it won’t happen to them.

And they’re probably right, because they aren’t who this is aimed at.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:46:37am

re: #1 lawhawk

Re voter info vs taxes
I can see it coming

My tax returns are private
This voter info is public….

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:47:42am

re: #102 wheat-dogg

Has anyone here heard of Isik Abla? She styles herself as a former Muslim jihadist, but now is born-again Christian type. I’ve never heard of her till today when someone posted one of her videos at another site.

I had a hunch, I looked, I found it. (I’m sure that would sound better in Latin.)

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CuriousLurker
Sep 2, 2014 • 7:19:41pm

A new name to add to my Google Alerts and for your list of suspicious ex-Muslims: Isik Abla

Congresswoman Michele Bachmann to Speak at Ascend Conference 2014 in Los Angeles

Speaking along with Bachmann, who announced last year that she will not seek re-election this fall, will be Isik Abla, an ex-Muslim, ordained minister and international ministry speaker who was raised in a Muslim home in Turkey. She was physically abused and escaped from that environment into an even more abusive situation with a Muslim extremist husband. At 25, she fled for her life to America, and after years of struggling and failing in many areas, Isik entered into intense depression. She had a personal encounter with God on the day she was planning her suicide. After several years in a business career, Isik obeyed God’s call to full time ministry, and today she hosts an international television program that’s distributed in five languages. […]

charismanews.com

I have no doubt there are indeed Muslims who sincerely convert to Christianity, just as there are Christians & Jews who convert to Islam, but when they start a full-time international ministry that rakes in the dough and show up alongside the likes of Michele Bachmann, I’m not buying it as sincere.

RIP, CL. I’m still thinking of you.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:48:32am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹

Işık Abla has about seven thousand subscribers on YouTube. She claims on her channel to be a former Muslim woman who was abused. She appears to be ethnically Turkish, and has only been posting videos for two months.

She goes into the usual sort of wingnut Evangelical Christianity about witchcraft, miracles (suspension of the laws of physics), &c.

She seems to post in three languages: English, Turkish, and Farsi.

She is also very prolific (while I was writing this she posted another video to her channel).

That explains why I only just now heard of her. I take these tales of being a former terrorist with a grain of salt. There is a niche market in RW Christendom for former Muslims telling stories of the evils of Islam.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:49:03am
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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:49:09am

re: #125 Blind Frog Belly White

I confess to some surprise that the supposed champions of private property are so eager for government to seize assets without due process.

They think it doesn’t apply to them…
“Theyd never use this on one of us……..”

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:49:16am

Madness.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:49:35am

re: #131 FormerDirtDart

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o_O

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:49:55am

re: #131 FormerDirtDart

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Horseshit.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:50:23am

re: #133 jaunte

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Madness.

Do I get bad President insurance?

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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:50:23am

re: #129 wrenchwench

CL would certainly have the skinny on this woman. I miss her expertise.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:50:27am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

Let’s see if the National Rifle Association takes a stand against this. That would certainly put the GOP in a bind with one of their most prolific donors.

They won’t. This stupid thing will be used on “those people” ie minorities.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:50:48am

re: #133 jaunte

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Madness.

LOL the voices in Trump’s head ass are speaking to him again.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:51:55am

re: #136 HappyWarrior

We all get Double-Secret Probation Insurance.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:51:57am

re: #139 Dr Lizardo

LOL the voices in Trump’s head ass are speaking to him again.

He just runs off at the mouth without any care that he makes sense.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:52:33am

You’ll be on a list you won’t even know you’re on!

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:52:46am

re: #109 jaunte

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“You look suspicious.”

“Sir, I’m going to need you to step out of the convertible.”

“Why? Am I being charged with something?”

“No sir, the chief just forgot to get his daughter a birthday present.”

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:53:10am

re: #137 wheat-dogg

CL would certainly have the skinny on this woman. I miss her expertise.

More here.

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:53:10am

I figure they must have had lunch by now.

So that means health care is all better now, right?
/

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:54:23am

re: #133 jaunte

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Madness.

Anybody mention to him that the whole point of the GOP’s ‘Repeal and Replace’ effort, plus the push to privatize Medicare, is to get the Government OUT of the insurance business?

Republicans don’t invent new policies. They invent new excuses to tell the average Joe to go fuck himself.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:54:43am

re: #131 FormerDirtDart

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GAH

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:55:09am
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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:57:40am

re: #131 FormerDirtDart

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And again, we circle back to the reason this “commission” exists: To overturn the results of the previous election’s popular vote so as to assuage the ego of an old man.

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KingKenrod  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:57:50am

WTF does 6,000 come from? There are 20,000 ALS patients alone.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:58:05am
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:59:02am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:59:03am

re: #150 KingKenrod

WTF does 6,000 come from? There are 20,000 ALS patients alone.

Benny Hinn healed the other 14,000!

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:59:08am

re: #150 KingKenrod

WTF does 6,000 come from? There are 20,000 ALS patients alone.

That must be the number of podcast subscribers he has?

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:59:09am

re: #151 Kragar

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Liberace wept.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:00:29pm

re: #151 Kragar

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Gah! I cringe every time I see that interior design. Its like a poseur’s idea of what opulence is like.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:01:14pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:01:20pm

I wonder how much of the furnishings in Trump’s NYC palace was made in the USA.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:01:25pm

re: #151 Kragar

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He doesn’t know Russian history. The Bolshevik revolution wasn’t about overthrowing the Czar. Btw Mike, your daughter works for the President and your party is the majority party controlling both Houses. Maybe think next time before you make a stupid analogy.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:01:36pm

re: #156 wheat-dogg

Gah! I cringe every time I see that interior design. Its like a poseur’s idea of what opulence is like.

Actually it looks like the tasteless set of a John Waters movie!

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:02:01pm

re: #99 Dr Lizardo

Anyhoo, here’s a much-needed sanity break, courtesy of Guillermo del Toro.

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Looks like a Sequel to Pan’s Labyrinth and a prequel to Hellboy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:02:22pm

re: #148 Joe Bacon 🌹

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I think this falls into the category of ‘Not Even Wrong’, where something is so far removed from reality that it doesn’t even make sense to debunk it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:02:32pm

re: #157 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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Russia’s bitch.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:02:32pm

re: #158 wheat-dogg

I wonder how much of the furnishings in Trump’s NYC palace was made in the USA.

Sean Spicer: That would be an inappropriate question

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:03:56pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

I had a hunch, I looked, I found it. (I’m sure that would sound better in Latin.)

RIP, CL. I’m still thinking of you.

So am I. Curious Lurker is a voice that will be sincerely missed here, but her words will echo for a long time to come.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:04:17pm

re: #152 jaunte

.@KatyTurNBC to Kris Kobach: Are you saying Hillary Clinton didn’t win the popular vote?

Kobach: “We may never know the answer”

— Mark Murray

If we don’t “know” whether Clinton won the popular vote, we don’t “know” whether Trump won the EC because the EC depends on the popular vote in certain states. And if those are wrong too, then…

Idiots.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:04:41pm
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:04:44pm

This guy.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:04:56pm

re: #150 KingKenrod

WTF does 6,000 come from? There are 20,000 ALS patients alone.

Morris’ rear orifice.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:05:49pm

re: #155 makeitstop

Liberace wept.

Makes Liberace look he was into Zen minimalism or something.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:06:03pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Russia’s bitch.

A real patriot would be broiling mad at all this Russian ass licking we’ve been doing but silence from the Anti-American wingnuts.

No I know why all of those MAGA hats were red.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:06:23pm

re: #162 Blind Frog Belly White

I think this falls into the category of ‘Not Even Wrong’, where something is so far removed from reality that it doesn’t even make sense to debunk it.

By that standard we shouldn’t have to bother with most of the daily spew of nonsense.

Alas, we do. And that gives them legitimacy

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:06:27pm

re: #157 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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Which means the wingnuts will now argue that it’s a good thing that we’re dropping the idea of “regime change” in Syria.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:06:32pm

Before reading Democracy in Chains, I would recommend a careful reading of a review by a historian for some things to keep in mind: independent.org

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:06:35pm

re: #133 jaunte

Madness.

What does this even mean?

Other than that DrumpF is a know-nothing who may be insane?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:06:46pm

re: #167 Kragar

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Two dipshits in a pod.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:07:08pm

Grandparents are close relatives.
Refugees previously identified for resettlement are out of luck.

“… The order leaves in place the action of a U.S. District Court judge in Hawaii who broadened the definition of close family to include categories such as the grandparents and cousins of a person in the U.S.

However, the Supreme Court blocked another part of the lower court order that said citizens with formal assurances from a U.S. refugee resettlement agency are eligible. …”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:07:20pm

re: #166 Sir John Barron

If we don’t “know” whether Clinton won the popular vote, we don’t “know” whether Trump won the EC because the EC depends on the popular vote in certain states. And if those are wrong too, then…

Idiots.

Oh, no. Not at all. Trump’s victory by 77,784 votes in 3 states is absolutely indisputable. It’s Clinton’s 2.9 Million vote margin that’s impossible to be certain of.

Because Democrats are so clever we can get 3 million illegal votes cast without leaving any evidence and without anyone spilling the beans, but we’re too stupid to have them vote in states where it might have made a difference.

///////////////////

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:07:29pm

re: #171 b.d.

A real patriot would be broiling mad at all this Russian ass licking we’ve been doing but silence from the Anti-American wingnuts.

No I know why all of those MAGA hats were red.

It’s all about power to them.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:07:34pm

re: #175 Sir John Barron

His supporters are nuts to remain loyal in the face of his immense ignorance and laziness.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:07:41pm

re: #130 wheat-dogg

That explains why I only just now heard of her. I take these tales of being a former terrorist with a grain of salt. There is a niche market in RW Christendom for former Muslims telling stories of the evils of Islam.

Ditto with “former atheists.” They make a big deal out of an alleged atheist who becomes a wingnut variety of Christian. (I don’t recall the Roman Catholics, United Methodists, or other strains of mainstream Christian churches doing that.) Funny they don’t talk about all the people who leave Evangelical Christianity for another Christian sect, another religion, or to become an atheist.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:09:30pm

re: #166 Sir John Barron

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:09:33pm

re: #177 FormerDirtDart

Grandparents are close relatives.
Refugees preciously identified for resettlement are out of luck.

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Fuck fuck. This probably means fiancées too.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:09:56pm

This seems to be Turtle’s version of “they’ll fix it in the Senate”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:10:06pm

re: #181 Anymouse 🌹

Ditto with “former atheists.” They make a big deal out of an alleged atheist who becomes a wingnut variety of Christian. (I don’t recall the Roman Catholics, United Methodists, or other strains of mainstream Christian churches doing that.) Funny they don’t talk about all the people who leave Evangelical Christianity for another Christian sect, another religion, or to become an atheist.

I knew a young woman many, many years ago that left the fundy church she’d grown up in and became a Unitarian-Universalist.

Never heard the UU’s crow about it, either.

BTW, after she left the fundy church, her family pretty much disowned her, sad to say.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:10:08pm

I guess Kobach didn’t think this over.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:10:39pm

re: #133 jaunte

Trump thinks Republicans will create all sorts of insurance we didn’t think we knew existed.

“Have you ever heard of health insurance? I just came up with a week ago. A brilliant idea, no one has ever heard about it before!”

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A Mom Anon  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:10:42pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

I miss her. A lot. Damn it.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:11:44pm

re: #187 Timothy Watson

“Have you ever heard of health insurance? I just came up with a week ago. A brilliant idea, no one has ever heard about it before!”

“Most Americans get health insurance through their employers. Many people don’t know that.”

/

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:12:02pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

I guess Kobach didn’t think this over.

Think?

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:12:59pm

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:13:04pm

re: #185 Dr Lizardo

I knew a young woman many, many years ago that left the fundy church she’d grown up in and became a Unitarian-Universalist.

Never heard the UU’s crow about it, either.

BTW, after she left the fundy church, her family pretty much disowned her, sad to say.

The families who disown apostate children don’t tend to make YouTube videos either.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:13:19pm

re: #187 Timothy Watson

“There’s this new idea about spreading the risk out. It’s called insurance. Not many people know about that, but it’s very smart, believe me.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:13:23pm

re: #188 A Mom Anon

I miss her. A lot. Damn it.

We all do. Such a great person.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:13:36pm

re: #189 Sir John Barron

“Most Americans get health insurance through their employers. Many people don’t know that.”

/

So jobs= health insurance.

Jobs for everyone!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:15:01pm

re: #138 GlutenFreeJesus

They won’t. This stupid thing will be used on “those people” ie minorities.

It doesn’t take convincing the NRA, though. It takes convincing their members. If the members think this could be used against them, the NRA will come round really fast.

I’ll mention this to our gun shop owner next time I see him. I imagine he won’t be very pleased.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:15:34pm

re: #193 jaunte

“There’s this new idea about spreading the risk out. It’s called insurance. Not many people know about that, but it’s very smart, believe me.”

“But if it means that the relatively healthy pay for the sick losers, I don’t know. That doesn’t sound good to me. I only like people who don’t get sick, OK?”

/

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:18:07pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:18:58pm

re: #191 b.d.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:19:45pm

re: #192 Sir John Barron

The families who disown apostate children don’t tend to make YouTube videos either.

Their children do though.

Jehovah’s Witness Mother Disowns Atheist Son Via Letter

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Timothy Watson  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:20:04pm

re: #199 FormerDirtDart

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I’m sure Mav McCain and Graham are very concerned.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:21:07pm
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mmmirele  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:22:02pm

re: #102 wheat-dogg

Has anyone here heard of Isik Abla? She styles herself as a former Muslim jihadist, but now is born-again Christian type. I’ve never heard of her till today when someone posted one of her videos at another site.

She’s probably as much of a jihadist as Ergun Caner was (as in “not”). Even on her own “About Me” she doesn’t identify herself as a jihadist.

isikabla.com

I’m not going to doubt that she was abused by her husband. That happens far too often across the religious and non-religious spectrum to doubt. But her being a jihadist? Probably not.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:22:37pm
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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:23:16pm

re: #197 Sir John Barron

“But if it means that the relatively healthy pay for the sick losers, I don’t know. That doesn’t sound good to me. I only like people who don’t get sick, OK?”

/

their logic:
gee if we could predict who would get sick that would make this a lot easier - only those people would need insurance - the rest of us would skate. (nope i’d never have an unanticipated illness or accident)

reality:
if we cover everyone for preventative and wellness care, then everyone stays healthier and pays less.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:23:40pm

The margin of Trump’s EC victory is way lower than Hillary’s, but we’re supposed to doubt hers and assume his is totally legit.

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:23:45pm

re: #199 FormerDirtDart

[Wow. This is big news. Trump is ending the CIA covert mission to arm syrian rebels against Assad. washingtonpost.com … Putin wanted this]

Not furtive! No furtivity! Trump said they talked about Syria at the G20.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:24:08pm

re: #206 Targetpractice

The margin of Trump’s EC victory is way lower than Hillary’s, but we’re supposed to doubt hers and assume his is totally legit.

That’s Wingnut Logic for you.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:25:06pm

re: #204 FormerDirtDart

If these anti American assholes get their way, we will never know. The truth and proof will be buried and the ground napalmed.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:25:13pm
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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:26:59pm

re: #39 darthstar

Now I’ve got that fucking song stuck in my head…”Yes I like Pina Coladas…”

Though I suspect they weren’t singing that in South Carolina.

Same story (some of it word for word) from same bogus “news” site about a man from Katy, TX.

snopes.com

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:27:47pm

re: #206 Targetpractice

The margin of Trump’s EC victory is way lower than Hillary’s, but we’re supposed to doubt hers and assume his is totally legit.

the question to kobach:

mr kobach, you’re a fair and honest person and know this isnt a one way street so since the margin of Trump’s EC victory is way lower than Hillary’s, if your commission receives or uncovers incontrovertible proof that Trump did not in fact win, what will you do?

//dreaming

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:28:40pm

re: #212 dangerman

the question to kobach:

mr kobach, you’re a fair and honest person and know this isnt a one way street so since the margin of Trump’s EC victory is way lower than Hillary’s, if your commission receives or uncovers incontrovertible proof that Trump did not in fact win, what will you do?

//dreaming

Haha I’d pay to see someone ask him that.

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stpaulbear  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:28:46pm

re: #116 makeitstop

Step out of the Porsche, please.

So I wonder if they can use this new rule to seize the assets of someone who provides lodging to a person who’s had everything taken by the cops because they’re aiding a suspected criminal.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:29:13pm

re: #211 BeachDem

Same story (some of it word for word) from same bogus “news” site about a man from Katy, TX.

snopes.com

Should have known. If it isn’t Florida Man and Florida Woman can’t be real.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:31:15pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:31:34pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:33:14pm

re: #214 stpaulbear

So I wonder if they can use this new rule to seize the assets of someone who provides lodging to a person who’s had everything taken by the cops because they’re aiding a suspected criminal.

United States v 8,850 Dollars.

Aiding and abetting a suspected criminal is a crime, so someone could probably work up such a case.

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:34:30pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:37:37pm

re: #206 Targetpractice

The margin of Trump’s EC victory is way lower than Hillary’s, but we’re supposed to doubt hers and assume his is totally legit.

Especially since tr*mp’s razor-thin margins came in midwest states under GOP rule, and the GOP at the state level has never engaged in illegal voter suppression vs. its enemies. //

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:39:08pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:40:20pm

Think I gonna take a nap

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:41:38pm

I’m a little late in discovering that virtually every music album is on YouTube.

But better late than never.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:44:36pm

re: #221 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Wait, how can it be second-year straight when we’d been assured that terrorism was on the rise and Obama was allowing them to murder indiscriminately?

////////

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A Mom Anon  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:45:28pm

re: #223 Sir John Barron

I found some really awesome acoustical stuff from Dave Grohl and Chris Cornell on You Tube. Which ended up with me spending a little more on CDs than I have in a long time.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:46:09pm

re: #223 Sir John Barron

I’m a little late in discovering that virtually every music album is on YouTube.

But better late than never.

Here’s one for you…….considered by many music critics to be one of the greatest live albums of all time.

Jerry Lee Lewis-Live at the Star Club Full [Live Album]

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:46:15pm

re: #224 Targetpractice

Wait, how can it be second-year straight when we’d been assured that terrorism was on the rise and Obama was allowing them to murder indiscriminately?

////////

Trump’s six months is backdated to take credit for a decline in terrorism going back two years or however many years is needed.

/

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:46:35pm

bloomberg

A caption would be redundant
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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:46:44pm

re: #202 jaunte

Can you past in the first tweet? I for some reason cannot see it.

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Semper Fi  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:47:00pm

re: #224 Targetpractice

Wait, how can it be second-year straight when we’d been assured that terrorism was on the rise and Obama was allowing them to murder indiscriminately?

////////

The Trumper: The truth is not in that man/child.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:48:11pm

re: #224 Targetpractice

Fake statistics!

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:48:17pm

re: #214 stpaulbear

So I wonder if they can use this new rule to seize the assets of someone who provides lodging to a person who’s had everything taken by the cops because they’re aiding a suspected criminal immigrant.

In case the ties to Germany need to be made more clear.

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danarchy  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:49:33pm

re: #223 Sir John Barron

I’m a little late in discovering that virtually every music album is on YouTube.

But better late than never.

A little late? That’s like showing up to a party when everyone has gone home and the host is cleaning up.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:50:04pm

re: #228 dangerman

bloomberg

[Embedded content]

The base is beginning to turn as they start to decide that they haven’t failed, they’ve only been failed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:53:20pm

I’m out for now … my wife and I are off to a dine-out with friends in Cheyenne.

If we don’t get back by midnight, send out search parties to Wyoming.

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:53:33pm

re: #223 Sir John Barron

I’m a little late in discovering that virtually every music album is on YouTube.

But better late than never.

Very few Beatles or Hendrix, though. Or Prince.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:54:56pm

re: #234 Targetpractice

The base is beginning to turn as they start to decide that they haven’t failed, they’ve only been failed.

its getting harder - for anyone with any sort of functioning brain - to excuse, endorse, or even try to (la la la) ignore the magnitude of the buffonery and ineptitude

from day one this has shown itself to be a perfect storm of incompetence - trump is embarassingly bad at everything he said he was ‘the best’ at. and ryan and mcconnell are now proving themselves to be ineffectual losers at this game they were also supposed to be ‘experts’ at

sigh - the reign of ignominius the first

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:57:52pm

re: #237 dangerman

its getting harder - for anyone with any sort of functioning brain - to excuse, endorse, or even try to (la la la) ignore the magnitude of the buffonery and ineptitude

from day one this has shown itself to be a perfect storm of incompetence - trump is embarassingly bad at everything he said he was ‘the best’ at. and ryan and mcconnell are now proving themselves to be ineffectual losers at this they were also supposed to be ‘experts’ at

sigh - the reign of ignominius the first

Like so many other subjects, the wingnuts started believing their own BS about how having two of the three branches of gov’t meant one could rule by fiat. Of course, if you queried them, they’d insist that all those institutions and guarantees of democracy they once championed should now be axed in order to institute their desires. Such as their sudden belief that the filibuster needs to be ended permanently, even when they can’t reliably secure 50 votes on major legislation.

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:57:58pm

re: #237 dangerman

This is the very definition of a kakistocracy. Or perhaps an idiocracy but in that case, those people were aware enough that they were dumb, and that someone smarter should be involved).

Here? The GOP is in a race to the bottom to find the most regressive and pain-amplifying candidates to sabotage and subvert a functioning government.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 12:59:16pm

re: #223 Sir John Barron

I’m a little late in discovering that virtually every music album is on YouTube.

But better late than never.

Have fun discovering the old Midnight Special’s.

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danarchy  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:00:00pm

re: #228 dangerman

bloomberg

[Embedded content]

Of course the headline I saw on the Bing aggregator is:

Poll: Hillary Clinton is more unpopular than President Trump

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:01:43pm

We have the next entry in the RedState projection Olympics:

The Dems can get their agenda passed because they are unprincipled and have no core ideology. They are in it for the money, power and prestige of high elective office.

Republicans, as a group, tend to be principled but certainly have their share of unprincipled, pandering career politicians such that they lie like rugs to get elected and then betray those who voted for them because they think the voters are stupid rubes with short memories. LIsa Murkowski is the epitome of this type of Republican. I used to believe that Rob Portman was a stand-up, principled conservative. Lately I’ve come to believe he’s been fully co-opted by the DC lifestyle and looking to land the next high-paying gig as a lobbyist or, maybe, run for Governor of OH as a John Kasich Klone.

Most Republicans actually believe in something. Even Susan Collins, who is about as close to being a liberal Democrat as can be found in the GOP, has some conservative principles. Democrats believe in slogans and talking points but they stick together even more consistently than thieves. While they like to get re-elected, what they really seek is the next opportunity to engage in graft and grifting.

That’s about a 137 on a 10 point scale.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:02:53pm

re: #241 danarchy

Of course the headline I saw on the Bing aggregator is:

Poll: Hillary Clinton is more unpopular than President Trump

Oh noes! She’ll never win now!

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:03:15pm

For all the bluster and veiled threats, they’re in way worse shape than I thought…

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stpaulbear  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:03:20pm

re: #240 Stanley Sea

Have fun discovering the old Midnight Special’s.

That, and typing the name of any band you’ve ever heard of followed by the word ‘documentary’.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:04:04pm

re: #244 makeitstop

For all the bluster and veiled threats, they’re in wayworse shape than I thought…

Trump: 40 is impressive by any standard.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:04:38pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:04:56pm

re: #246 Sir John Barron

Trump: 40 is impressive by any standard.

lol, they probably had 48 votes before Trump told them to do it.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:05:29pm

I’m not tired of winning yet, how about y’all?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:05:30pm

re: #242 EPR-radar

We have the next entry in the RedState projection Olympics:

That’s about a 137 on a 10 point scale.

Is this the July 2017 version of “We’re Principled, They’re Not” or does this version date from an earlier RedState epoch?

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:05:44pm

re: #239 lawhawk

Here? The GOP is in a race to the bottom to find the most regressive and pain-amplifying candidates to sabotage and subvert a functioning government.

no doubt

the meta question is whether they are “racing to the bottom” willfully and knowingly or whether they are just so incompetent, that’s whats happening

are they purposely trying to be dumb or are they just bad at it? (my head hurts)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:06:38pm

“We’ll never know the results of this election” is probably the most lethal idea that can be injected into a democracy.

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:06:48pm

re: #250 Sir John Barron

Is this the July 2017 version of “We’re Principled, They’re Not” or does this version date from an earlier RedState epoch?

Given the direct reference to Portman, I’d guess this one is newly-minted.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:07:24pm

re: #242 EPR-radar

I used to believe that Rob Portman was a stand-up, principled conservative. Lately I’ve come to believe he’s been fully co-opted by the DC lifestyle and looking to land the next high-paying gig as a lobbyist or, maybe, run for Governor of OH as a John Kasich Klone.

Ah, that’s it. His soul has been invaded by the legendary spirit of decadent DC and he wants to be a lobbyist, so this is why he’s not following Dear Leader Trump 110%. He couldn’t possibly care about his non-wealthy constituents.

/

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:07:49pm

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:08:08pm

re: #255 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

[Embedded content]

“Obama’s fault.”

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:08:26pm

re: #241 danarchy

Of course the headline I saw on the Bing aggregator is:

Poll: Hillary Clinton is more unpopular than President Trump

as long as trump stays less popular than root canal or nickleback
cause for me, hillary’s a private citizen

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:09:16pm

re: #249 b.d.

I’m not tired of winning yet, how about y’all?

I think Krager put this out the other evening.

MOAR WINNING
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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:09:52pm

re: #253 makeitstop

Given the direct reference to Portman, I’d guess this one is newly-minted.

Yeah the whining about Murkowski and Portman was pretty choice. And Kasich is on their shitlist now, too. RWNJ used to love them some John Kasich. He was a balanced-budget guy, had the social conservative credentials. Then, well, apparently Kasich wanted to a “lobbyist” so he got all liberalish.

/

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:10:29pm

re: #258 Dave In Austin

I think Krager put this out the other evening.

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that’s great!

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:10:50pm

re: #252 Decatur Deb

“We’ll never know the results of this election” is probably the most lethal idea that can be injected into a democracy.

…for the guy in the chair

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:11:26pm

Since Nov 8, Hillary Clinton’s popularity has been less significant than Al Yankovich’s.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:11:40pm

re: #242 EPR-radar

We have the next entry in the RedState projection Olympics:

That’s about a 137 on a 10 point scale.

Behold our great and grand “principle” of just wanting a full repeal for the Win, and not even bothering with the silliness of hearings and public debates and stuff like that for their shit “replace” bill.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:12:26pm

re: #258 Dave In Austin

I think Krager put this out the other evening.

[Embedded content]

I love this so much.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:14:41pm

re: #242 EPR-radar

We have the next entry in the RedState projection Olympics:

That’s about a 137 on a 10 point scale.

it is such a sad state that american politics is no longer a clash of value systems, each of which is in *some* way valid; a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently

it has become, not even a conflict of interests, but instead a degenerative, brutal struggle for office in which one side with righteous indignation believes only the other is and can be capable of behaving despicably while their own side, owning both houses and the oval are actually doing it daily

(no need to even reference Merrick Garland)

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:15:15pm

re: #242 EPR-radar

We have the next entry in the RedState projection Olympics:

That’s about a 137 on a 10 point scale.

The back-biting begins as the wingnuts try to reason out why their own party can’t get shit done after years of “unity” in opposition to anything the black man proposed.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:16:22pm

re: #266 Targetpractice

The back-biting begins as the wingnuts try to reason out why their own party can’t get shit done after years of “unity” in opposition to anything the black man proposed.

“I don’t understand it. We had unity on all those ‘repeal’ bills we passed back in 2010-2016. What happened to all that? Were we deceived? Were our Senators really not true believers?”

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:16:25pm

re: #255 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

[Embedded content]

the perverse logic of this is since they didnt vote for it, then it is their fault

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TedStriker  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:17:38pm

re: #262 Decatur Deb

Since Nov 8, Hillary Clinton’s popularity has been less significant than Al Yankovich’s.

Hey, leave Weird Al out of this!

/

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:17:50pm

re: #267 Sir John Barron

“I don’t understand it. We had unity on all those ‘repeal’ bills we passed back in 2010-2016. What happened to all that? Were we deceived? Were our Senators really not true believers?”

“It can’t be because those bills had all the popularity of syphilis. It has to be because ‘establishment’ Republicans are sabotaging the votes!”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:18:05pm

re: #269 TedStriker

Hey, leave Weird Al out of this!

/

He still has a career.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:19:11pm

re: #266 Targetpractice

The back-biting begins as the wingnuts try to reason out why their own party can’t get shit done after years of “unity” in opposition to anything the black man proposed.

cant speak to the “to anything”

as for health care coverage, most people reject the idea of dying sooner than they have to specifically to pay for a tax cut they dont get…

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:19:57pm

re: #250 Sir John Barron

Is this the July 2017 version of “We’re Principled, They’re Not” or does this version date from an earlier RedState epoch?

This is from today, in a long and very entertaining comment thread about the failure of GOPDontCare.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:20:15pm

re: #267 Sir John Barron

“I don’t understand it. We had unity on all those ‘repeal’ bills we passed back in 2010-2016. What happened to all that? Were we deceived? Were our Senators really not true believers?”

to overstate the effin obvious, they knew it would never pass so…

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:21:44pm

ICYMI: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

President Donald Trump’s former campaign manager thinks the President will probably “close the deal today” on an Obamacare repeal bill because Trump is “a great dealmaker.”

Tell us another one, Corey.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:22:24pm

re: #274 dangerman

to overstate the effin obvious, they knew it would never pass so…

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A Mom Anon  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:23:02pm

re: #267 Sir John Barron

Yeah, it’s such a mystery that being completely evil, mean assholes isn’t really that popular outside that particular clique. Why who would have guessed? Not to mention that fact that a lot of these fuckheads aren’t happy that the stupid bills they keep introducing aren’t evil enough. How many times have they tried this shit? Aren’t we at around SIXTY now? They really aren’t that bright. I mean, you’d think it would dawn on at least a couple of them that this could be God’s way of telling them they’re doing it wrong. But Noooooo.

I still think passing Civics and History should become a requirement for running for office now. At least for the foreseeable future. Too much stupid breaks shit.

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:23:06pm
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TedStriker  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:23:23pm

re: #271 Decatur Deb

He still has a career.

Well, this is true…

Weird Al really is a wonder; damn near forty years in the music biz and he still stays relevant (and look pretty damn good for his age, too).

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:24:32pm

re: #275 makeitstop

ICYMI: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Tell us another one, Corey.

These people are fucking delusional.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:25:22pm

re: #280 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

These people are fucking delusional.

delusional is the new Republican

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danarchy  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:25:32pm

Speaking of bands on youtube, this is apparently now the most streamed song in history.

Despacito

I don’t get it, it is catchy enough I guess, but the video is full of cheasy music video tropes, like the guy standing alone on the windswept beach, or the block party, and of course the scantily clad beautiful woman. Just not sure what makes it that special.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:25:36pm

re: #249 b.d.

I’m not tired of winning yet, how about y’all?

How do you say “so much winning” in Russian?

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Dr. Matt  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:26:25pm

re: #99 Dr Lizardo

Anyhoo, here’s a much-needed sanity break, courtesy of Guillermo del Toro.

[Embedded content]

Video

That looks awesome. Thanks for sharing.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:27:50pm

re: #283 Barefoot Grin

How do you say “so much winning” in Russian?

Столь большая победа

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:28:38pm

re: #282 danarchy

Speaking of bands on youtube, this is apparently now the most streamed song in history.

Despacito

I don’t get it, it is catchy enough I guess, but the video is full of cheasy music video tropes, like the guy standing alone on the windswept beach, or the block party, and of course the scantily clad beautiful woman. Just not sure what makes it that special.

Wrenchwench (I think) posted a video the other day of a little girl dancing to it every time her dad played it on his phone. That was cute af.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:28:41pm

re: #252 Decatur Deb

“We’ll never know the results of this election” is probably the most lethal idea that can be injected into a democracy.

I tweeted that. We are fucked.

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:30:31pm

re: #286 makeitstop

Wrenchwench (I think) posted a video the other day of a little girl dancing to it every time her dad played it on his phone. That was cute af.

To each (million) one’s (million’s) own.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:32:01pm

re: #284 Dr. Matt

That looks awesome. Thanks for sharing.

Looks promising. Guillermo del Toro is one helluva film maker.

There was a story he told, I don’t remember where I read it now it was so long ago, but he’s been trying for years and years in vain to make a film version of H.P. Lovecraft’s At The Mountains of Madness.

The story goes that he had a spec script and he pitched the idea to the Hollywood high-ups; they thought it was pretty decent, but their overriding concern was “where’s the titties?” In other words, where’s the sexy lead actress?

del Toro tried (again, in vain) to explain that such things really don’t exist in Lovecraft’s writings. Needless to say, he didn’t get the green light.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:34:55pm

Del Toro owes me a Pacific Rim sequel, damnit!

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:36:41pm

re: #152 jaunte

KatyTurNBC to Kris Kobach: Are you saying Hillary Clinton didn’t win the popular vote?

Kobach: “We may never know the answer”

I think we need an investigation into the Electoral College…people have reported “irregularities” Did Trump really win the EC? We may never know

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:36:50pm

re: #287 Stanley Sea

I tweeted that. We are fucked.

And they did it consciously, deliberately.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:37:13pm

re: #288 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

To each (million) one’s (million’s) own.

If that video is that popular with children in Indonesia you can imagine the global reach. Sadly, it’s not in English, so it doesn’t count.

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stpaulbear  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:38:46pm

“You guys have to stay in DC all summer beating this dead horse. I’ll come back from the golf course when you need my signature.”

I hope every senator is pissed as hell.

Hoping to avoid a humiliating political defeat, President Trump on Wednesday demanded that Republican senators resume their efforts to approve a plan to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, insisting that lawmakers are “very close.”

A day after the GOP strategy to roll back the ACA appeared dead, Trump invited Republican senators to lunch at the White House and challenged them to work out an agreement even if it means remaining in Washington through their summer recess next month. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) had previously announced that the recess would be delayed by two weeks.

“People should not leave town unless we have a health insurance plan, unless we give our people great health care,” Trump said at the beginning of the lunch. “We’re close, very close … We have to hammer this out and get it done.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:39:26pm

re: #290 Targetpractice

Del Toro owes me a Pacific Rim sequel, damnit!

/

I bought that movie for my nine-year-old son, figuring he would go for giant robots vs monsters, but actually found it a well done and enjoyable film

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:39:57pm

Preach (context: man explains why he left Republicans after reacting to tweet hoping for McCain’s death):

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:40:05pm

re: #288 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

To each (million) one’s (million’s) own.

That baby at the end. LOL

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:40:57pm

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I bought that movie for my nine-year-old son, figuring he would go for giant robots vs monsters, but actually found it a well done and enjoyable film

It is indeed; a fantastic homage to kaiju and giant mecha films.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:41:02pm

re: #290 Targetpractice

Del Toro owes me a Pacific Rim sequel, damnit!

/

They’re already working on one

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:42:18pm

re: #299 Kragar

They’re already working on one

What about a sequel to Battleship?

//

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:43:15pm

re: #299 Kragar

They’re already working on one

I know, but he’s not directing, which already makes me weary of the final product. It’s like how Cameron passed off the Battle Angel film he’d promised he was working for years to another director because he’s up to his eyeballs in Avatar sequels.

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danarchy  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:43:19pm

re: #299 Kragar

They’re already working on one

Different director though

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:44:34pm

re: #301 Targetpractice

He is staying on as the producer though

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:45:53pm

re: #244 makeitstop

For all the bluster and veiled threats, they’re in way worse shape than I thought…

Ed O’Keefe ✔ @edatpost
WOAH: @SenAlexander, in a scrum aired live by CNN, says “I don’t think there are 40 votes” for a repeal-only bill.
2:52 PM - 19 Jul 2017
338 338 Retweets 668 668 likes

CNN is Fake news! They faked this quote. They are just trying to fool people like me and you and a few others.

These type of quotes are to lull people to stop fighting the all powerful and untouchable Grand Old Party.

One night we will go to bed thinking the insurance nightmare is over and the next morning we will read it will never be over. Ever!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:46:01pm

re: #300 b.d.

What about a sequel to Battleship?

//

Ugh. I actually watched that POS film….sucked me in on a Sunday afternoon. I’ll want that day back when I’m on my death bed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:46:47pm

re: #305 Dr. Matt

Ugh. I actually watched that POS film….sucked me in on a Sunday afternoon. I’ll want that day back when I’m on my death bed.

I watched it for one reason and one reason only: To see them CGI the 16” guns blazing. Was not disappointed. Paid attention to almost nothing else.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:47:04pm

re: #300 b.d.

What about a sequel to Battleship?

//

This time, let the aliens win.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:47:36pm

re: #245 stpaulbear

That, and typing the name of any band you’ve ever heard of followed by the word ‘documentary’.

Especially the BBC documentaries.

I use YouTube a lot. I have made my Samsung Galaxy 4 Tablet my go to jukebox. I have self powered speaker systems I plug it into and away we go on a listening adventure.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:49:15pm

re: #306 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I watched it for one reason and one reason only: To see them CGI the 16” guns blazing. Was not disappointed. Paid attention to almost nothing else.

Ayep, the only reason to tune in is to watch the final battle. Everything else is a waste of film.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:50:53pm

re: #309 Targetpractice

Ayep, the only reason to tune in is to watch the final battle. Everything else is a waste of film.

Just like Pearl Harbor is only worth watching for the Japanese attack and then the Doolittle raid on Tokyo..

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:51:03pm

re: #271 Decatur Deb

He still has a career.

Some Berners are preparing for Hillary to run in 2020. I know…I read it on the internets.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:54:01pm

re: #277 A Mom Anon

I still think passing Civics and History should become a requirement for running for office now. At least for the foreseeable future. Too much stupid breaks shit.

I’m thinking it should also be a requirement to vote. I hate voting regulations but this is one that might actually make this country better.

(and no I am not serious…or am I?)

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Dr. Matt  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:54:40pm

re: #306 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I watched it for one reason and one reason only: To see them CGI the 16” guns blazing. Was not disappointed. Paid attention to almost nothing else.

When I was in college I had a friend convinced that in the movie The Rock, actual jets flew under the Golden Gate bridge.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:55:34pm

re: #311 ObserverArt

Some Berners are preparing for Hillary to run in 2020. I know…I read it on the internets.

By then the electorate will be awake, or it won’t matter.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:56:01pm

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just like Pearl Harbor is only worth watching for the Japanese attack and then the Doolittle raid on Tokyo..

Just like Titanic is only worth watching Jack freeze to death. Little hobo thief.

//

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:56:12pm

re: #313 Dr. Matt

When I was in college I had a friend convinced that in the movie The Rock, actual jets flew under the Golden Gate bridge.

From what I’m given to understand, the crew of the movie Battleship did get to visit the USS Missouri floating museum. Spoiler alert: They did not sail her out of Pearl Harbor.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:56:52pm

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just like Pearl Harbor is only worth watching for the Japanese attack and then the Doolittle raid on Tokyo..

Wait, you mean you didn’t like the heartwrenching lovestory between Whatsis and Whosie after WhatsHisName appears to have died, only to magically reappear, but having been unable while crossing the Atlantic, the entire United States, and half of the Pacific to find a Western Union office?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:58:01pm

re: #317 Blind Frog Belly White

Wait, you mean you didn’t like the heartwrenching lovestory between Whatsis and Whosie after WhatsHisName appears to have died, only to magically reappear, but having been unable while crossing the Atlantic, the entire United States, and half of the Pacific to find a Western Union office?

Where he turns down a chance to spend the night with her in a hotel before going off to war because he wants to maintain their spiritual purity?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:59:14pm

re: #318 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Where he turns down a chance to spend the night with her in a hotel before going off to war because he wants to maintain their spiritual purity?

I forgot about that. In my book, if you have a chance to do it with Kate Beckinsale and you don’t take it, you should probably just die.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 1:59:59pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:01:28pm

re: #317 Blind Frog Belly White

re: #318 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Pearl Harbor” is a two-hour movie squeezed into three hours, about how on Dec. 7, 1941, the Japanese staged a surprise attack on an American love triangle. Its centerpiece is 40 minutes of redundant special effects, surrounded by a love story of stunning banality. The film has been directed without grace, vision, or originality, and although you may walk out quoting lines of dialog, it will not be because you admire them.

rogerebert.com

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:01:32pm

“…The president’s golf clubs have become popular event venues for political groups. Last month, CREW reported that the Republican Party of Virginia paid Trump National Golf Course in Potomac Falls, Virginia almost ten grand for an event featuring White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer as a “special guest.” On Saturday, nj.com reported that Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-NJ)’s joint fundraising committee paid Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, NJ $15,221 for “venue rental/catering” for a June fundraiser headlined by President Trump. And on Monday, BuzzFeed News reported that Republican campaigns and committees besides the Trump campaign have reported spending around $72,000 at Trump businesses, according to currently available data from the Federal Election Commission.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:03:04pm

re: #319 Blind Frog Belly White

I forgot about that. In my book, if you have a chance to do it with Kate Beckinsale and you don’t take it, you should probably just die.

It was a comment on the state of American morals back then: maintaining virginal purity while being an irresistible bombshell was the standard that young women were expected to live up to.

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TedStriker  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:03:16pm

re: #309 Targetpractice

Ayep, the only reason to tune in is to watch the final battle. Everything else is a waste of film.

Even Liam Neeson’s entitled to a “fuck it” movie once in a while…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:03:24pm

re: #322 jaunte

SCOOP: Republican Governors Association spent more than $400k at Trump golf course

Easy fix: Nationalize his golf courses, under NPS management.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:03:37pm

Must read (sorry if already posted)

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:04:40pm

re: #290 Targetpractice

Del Toro owes me a Pacific Rim sequel, damnit!

/

imdb.com

Next year.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:04:44pm

re: #99 Dr Lizardo

Looks like another winner for del Toro.

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:05:04pm

Josh Marshall comes to the only logical conclusion.

The mix of President Trump’s bizarre toadying to Russia and Putin himself, combined with the latest revelations about Don Jr and the rest make it no longer credible that there’s any innocent explanation to this mystery. I think a lot of higher-ups in government have not fully thought through and absorbed what this means.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:05:52pm

re: #323 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was a comment on the state of American morals back then: maintaining virginal purity while being an irresistible bombshell was the standard that young women were expected to live up to.

To quote Spike Milligan: “It was all sex in those days. It was either that or the flicks, and the flicks cost money!”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:06:39pm

re: #326 Stanley Sea

WaPo doesn’t like me any more.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:07:45pm

re: #324 TedStriker

Even Liam Neeson’s entitled to a “fuck it” movie once in a while…

These days it seems half the films made amount to an actor paying off his debts. “This script is ridiculous, but I do need the money…”

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:07:58pm

I thought Pearl Harbor was a time travel story about Gen Y yuppies being displaced to 1941 and somehow getting away with it.

The most fantastic and implausible incident, two American pilots leaving an all night party and taking off from a remote airstrip to collectively shoot down at least 6 of the attackers, is almost the only part that is historically accurate.
George Welch and Kenneth Taylor

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:08:09pm

re: #329 makeitstop

Josh Marshall comes to the only logical conclusion.

But…but…muh tax cuts!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:08:27pm

re: #330 Blind Frog Belly White

To quote Spike Milligan: “It was all sex in those days. It was either that or the flicks, and the flicks cost money!”

The movie was about American sensibilities in the 90’s, not about life in the 40’s…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:08:45pm

re: #330 Blind Frog Belly White

To quote Spike Milligan: “It was all sex in those days. It was either that or the flicks, and the flicks cost money!”

“I believed in free love then…it was the only kind I could afford.”
Spy Who Came In From The Cold

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:10:30pm

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just like Pearl Harbor is only worth watching for the Japanese attack and then the Doolittle raid on Tokyo..

Couldn’t even handle the Japanese attack.

You do not fight Zekes at NOE in P-40s and live. Not done. Not no how, not no way. You will simply end up a flag on the Zeke pilot’s cockpit.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:11:48pm

re: #337 Romantic Heretic

Couldn’t even handle the Japanese attack.

You do not fight Zekes at NOE in P-40s and live. Not done. Not no how, not no way. You will simply end up a flag on the Zeke pilot’s cockpit.

Hell, in 1941, we didn’t know how to fight those things with any of our planes. You were basically rolling the dice unless you got the drop on them and attacked them from above.

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TedStriker  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:13:54pm

re: #332 Targetpractice

These days it seems half the films made amount to an actor paying off his debts. “This script is ridiculous, but I do need the money…”

See: Cage, Nicholas.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:14:00pm

re: #324 TedStriker

Even Liam Neeson’s entitled to a “fuck it” movie once in a while…

Didn’t he make three movies where bad guys kidnapped girls hiding under beds?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:15:20pm

re: #337 Romantic Heretic

Couldn’t even handle the Japanese attack.

You do not fight Zekes at NOE in P-40s and live. Not done. Not no how, not no way. You will simply end up a flag on the Zeke pilot’s cockpit.

Actually, it did happen.

The roles the two male leads have in the attack sequence are analogous to the real historical deeds of U.S. Army Air Forces Second Lieutenants George Welch and Kenneth M. Taylor, who took to the skies in P-40 Warhawk aircraft during the Japanese attack and, together, claimed six Japanese aircraft and a few probables.

en.wikipedia.org

I remember reading about that when I was a kid - my dad, old US Navy man that he was, said that Welch and Taylor were “the luckiest sonsabitches” he’d ever heard of.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:17:28pm

re: #331 Decatur Deb

WaPo doesn’t like me any more.

Free 6 months with Amazon Prime.

Or a incognito window.
Must read article.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:18:22pm

re: #342 Stanley Sea

Free 6 months with Amazon Prime.

Or a incognito window.
Must read article.

Hmm. We have Prime—don’t know how to put them together.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:18:35pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:18:52pm

re: #343 Decatur Deb

Hmm. We have Prime—don’t know how to put them together.

Just search WaPo

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KGxvi  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:19:42pm

re: #344 Stanley Sea

I really like the theory that someone raised here yesterday (I believe) that the press briefing is off camera now in order to hide them from Trump and his twittering.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:20:08pm

re: #345 Stanley Sea

Just search WaPo

Consulting the Kitchen Table IT.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:20:47pm

CBO just released.

Shitshow of course.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:21:01pm

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:22:17pm

re: #341 Dr Lizardo

Yes, but as I recall none of those were Zekes. All Kates and Vals. And all of those were bounced.

In the movie the Americans were engaged practically from the second they were wheels up, by Zekes. They should have died.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:22:49pm

re: #308 ObserverArt

I have a Raisetech bluetooth speaker that has a lisp. Whenever it connects it says, “Bluetooth hath connected thuckthethfully.” Couldn’t make this up if I tried.

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TedStriker  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:23:28pm

re: #340 Dr. Matt

Didn’t he make three movies where bad guys kidnapped girls hiding under beds?

Hey, I thought the Taken series was good, though it was getting more than a bit contrived by the third installment.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:23:32pm

re: #347 Decatur Deb

Consulting the Kitchen Table IT.

I just searched on Amazon: Washington Post Prime - it’s the first item. “Get Free Digital Access” - 6 mo

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:23:38pm

re: #351 Flying Squirrel Girl

I have a Raisetech bluetooth speaker that has a lisp. Whenever it connects it says, “Bluetooth hath connected thuckthethfully.” Couldn’t make this up if I tried.

Toggle it out of “Chaucerian”.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:26:29pm

re: #350 Romantic Heretic

Yes, but as I recall none of those were Zekes. All Kates and Vals. And all of those were bounced.

In the movie the Americans were engaged practically from the second they were wheels up, by Zekes. They should have died.

It’s been so long since I saw that turkey I’ve forgotten.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:33:46pm

re: #354 Decatur Deb

Weird. I checked the toggle switch, and the choices are Chaucerian or Castillian.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:37:05pm

Good night Lizards.

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:37:37pm

re: #356 Flying Squirrel Girl

Weird. I checked the toggle switch, and the choices are Chaucerian or Castillian.

Thi, the parethe que suth opthiones thon muchoth limitadoth…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:40:53pm

Also, “Deranged Trump Tweet” is redundant.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:41:56pm

re: #337 Romantic Heretic

Couldn’t even handle the Japanese attack.

You do not fight Zekes at NOE in P-40s and live. Not done. Not no how, not no way. You will simply end up a flag on the Zeke pilot’s cockpit.

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prairiefire  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:42:10pm

re: #358 Jay C

snort.

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garzooma  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:45:02pm

Speaking of WWII/Battleship movies, when do we get one on the Battle of Leyte Gulf?

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:46:06pm

re: #362 garzooma

The world wonders…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:46:39pm

re: #350 Romantic Heretic

Yes, but as I recall none of those were Zekes. All Kates and Vals. And all of those were bounced.

In the movie the Americans were engaged practically from the second they were wheels up, by Zekes. They should have died.

Welch shot down a Zero (or at least claimed one; the Wikipedia article was not explicit on that point). Dogfighting against Zekes in the fashion depicted in the film would have been suicide. The P-40 was sturdy and fast, but the Americans had no idea how to use its strengths to their advantage in December 1941, and the F6F Hellcat and F4U Corsair were still a couple of years away.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:51:23pm

One of my former employees was a squadron mate of George H. Bush’s. He was a turret gunner in an Avenger. At that point in the war he rarely saw enemy aircraft, but when he did try to shoot the whole plane shook like mad, and he doesn’t think he came close to hitting anything. For him the scariest part of the war was landing on a light carrier. He was totally helpless and his life was in the hands of the pilot.
*Later the DOD dropped the back seat gunner as a waste of weight when the A-1 Skyraider was developed.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:53:15pm

re: #365 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

BTW he said the guys just knew the Lieutenant as some rich kid from Connecticut.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:57:36pm

Just for something odd and fun…

A bird that seemingly floats, rather than flies in the air.

Floaty bird floating

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 2:58:53pm

re: #366 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

BTW he said the guys just knew the Lieutenant as some rich kid from Connecticut.

There were rich kids all over that war. Times have changed.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:00:12pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:00:58pm
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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:01:31pm

re: #369 FormerDirtDart

Set your perjury traps early!!

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:02:37pm

Worser and worser:

HuffPo new header: CBO STUNNER

huffingtonpost.com

Thirty-two million fewer people would have health coverage, health insurance premiums would double and the insurance market would destabilize over the next 10 years under legislation the Senate may take up next week, according to a report the Congressional Budget Office published Wednesday.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:04:39pm

re: #370 FormerDirtDart

I wonder if those two will be allowed to answer a single question, or will it be a solid wall of Fifth Amendment protection.

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KGxvi  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:07:34pm

re: #373 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I wonder if those two will be allowed to answer a single question, or will it be a solid wall of Fifth Amendment protection.

Objection, lacks foundation, facts not in evidence.

It’s a big assumption that either of them would be smart enough to invoke the Fifth.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:10:04pm

“…On Wednesday, I filed two forms — a complaint and a disclosure of information — with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel. I filed the disclosure because eliminating my role coordinating federal engagement and leaving my former position empty exacerbate the already significant threat to the health and the safety of certain Alaska Native communities. I filed the complaint because the Trump administration clearly retaliated against me for raising awareness of this danger.”

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:14:51pm

re: #370 FormerDirtDart

Look at the first name on Panel II

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:16:56pm
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KGxvi  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:18:20pm

re: #376 gocart mozart

Look at the first name on Panel II

[Embedded content]

In a sane world, the House would expel Rohrabacher. But, alas, this world has never really been sane.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:18:30pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:19:51pm

re: #379 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Mitch: “We promise to fix that right away…eventually…once you give us more seats in the Senate…”

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:21:26pm
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KGxvi  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:22:20pm

re: #380 Targetpractice

Mitch: “We promise to fix that right away…eventually…once you give us more seats in the Senate…”

It really is “Repeal and Go Fuck Yourself.”

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:22:23pm

re: #372 BeachDem

Worser and worser:

HuffPo new header: CBO STUNNER

huffingtonpost.com

Thirty-two million fewer people would have health coverage, health insurance premiums would double and the insurance market would destabilize over the next 10 years under legislation the Senate may take up next week, according to a report the Congressional Budget Office published Wednesday.

re: #162 Blind Frog Belly White

I think this falls into the category of ‘Not Even Wrong’, where something is so far removed from reality that it doesn’t even make sense to debunk it.

and yet the CBO has to take this seriously and issue a serious report which gives the very ideas of “32M losing coverage, premiums doubling, and market destabilization” legitimacy

‘constituencies’ be damned.
they are trying to do this to people. to human beings.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:23:26pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:24:27pm
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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:28:50pm
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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:30:00pm

re: #386 Kragar

[Embedded content]

what a pair of moronic questions

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:30:21pm

re: #387 dangerman

what a pair of moronic questions

It’s a Faux News poll, they had to dumb it down. Wayyyyyyy down.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:30:22pm

re: #384 Stanley Sea

They’ll be afraid to hide, too. The pressure is definitely on.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:33:54pm
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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:34:04pm

re: #379 Kragar

[Embedded content] Take Aways: 32 million more uninsured than under the ACA
Premiums would rise 25% by 2018, 50% by 2020, double by 2026

for comparison and reference, 32 million is more than the population of texas

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:35:02pm

Every Day A New Loophole

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:36:21pm

It’s a “solely advisory” data mining operation.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:38:26pm

re: #392 jaunte

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Every Day A New Loophole
Trump voter fraud commission says it doesn’t have to follow federal laws because it’s not a federal agency hill.cm

citizens, you know, regular folks, arent federal agencies either

everybody has to follow federal law

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:38:27pm

re: #360 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Come for the politics, stay for the history.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:41:01pm

re: #373 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I wonder if those two will be allowed to answer a single question, or will it be a solid wall of Fifth Amendment protection.

It will be a solid wall of GOP protection, like always.

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:42:04pm

re: #392 jaunte

!

SO if Trump’s Fraud (of a) Commission isn’t a “federal agency”, does that mean no one has to listen to it? (which they shouldn’t anyway?)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:44:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:45:21pm

re: #133 jaunte

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Madness.

There’s a way to fix that Donnie…it’s called single payer…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:46:06pm

re: #397 Jay C

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!

SO if Trump’s Fraud (of a) Commission isn’t a “federal agency”, does that mean no one has to listen to it? (which they shouldn’t anyway?)

And why would anyone provide them with any info? They can file requests and pay for what’s publicly available like any other private citizen.

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:48:35pm

[…]

According to Tzintzún, around 250 people showed up to rally with the teens on the steps of the Texas capitol building on Wednesday.

“Some people said that it was the best protest and event they’d ever been to,” she told me. “That it was the most inspiring because it was also a call to action, but was done in a way that used art as power to show that resistance is beautiful.”

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Timothy Watson  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:52:17pm

re: #397 Jay C

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!

SO if Trump’s Fraud (of a) Commission isn’t a “federal agency”, does that mean no one has to listen to it? (which they shouldn’t anyway?)

So a body created by an executive order isn’t a “federal agency”?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:53:06pm

re: #401 wrenchwench

Who cares? Those kids can’t vote anyway!

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:54:43pm

re: #362 garzooma

There was a Dogfights episode about the Battle off Samar.

(Stops to salute Commander Evans and the tin cans of Taffy 3)

DogFight - Death of the Japanese Navy WWII

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:54:48pm

re: #390 Kragar

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You and me, power fist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:56:08pm

re: #150 KingKenrod

WTF does 6,000 come from? There are 20,000 ALS patients alone.

6,000 — same number of years the earth is old.

Coincidence?

I think not…

/////////////////

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:57:02pm

Not surprised.

He’s president only to some

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:57:07pm

re: #403 Eclectic Cyborg

Who cares? Those kids can’t vote anyway!

Not until 2020…

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:58:03pm
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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 3:59:09pm

just saw this comment elsewhere:

Just think what could happen if President Trump had a decent Republican congress. Next election we need REAL Republicans in Congress. If we had that CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITIES!

uh-huh

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Myron Falwell  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:00:17pm

re: #408 wrenchwench

Not until 2020…

Fucker Abbott will try to get a poll tax reinstated before that happens, though.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:01:31pm

look at the list of all communications from……

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Myron Falwell  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:01:45pm

re: #407 Stanley Sea

Not surprised.

He’s president only to some

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Actually, I’m surprised that the NAACP invited him in the first place.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:02:25pm

re: #392 jaunte

Badges? We don’ need no stinkin’ badges!

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:02:29pm

re: #392 jaunte

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:05:00pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:06:07pm

re: #415 gocart mozart

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Per Kobach, we don’t even know if Trump is legitimately President.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:06:46pm

re: #416 gocart mozart

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Which is why he offered to work for Trump for free.

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KGxvi  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:08:50pm

re: #409 Stanley Sea

It is kind of a shame, though… Trump testifying before Congress would be rather epic. Imagine how he would react to Senator Harris questioning him for specifics. Imagine his reaction when someone questions him on his dealings with Russia.

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:08:56pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:08:58pm

re: #417 Blind Frog Belly White

Per Kobach, we don’t even know if Trump is legitimately President.

Perko Bach sounds like something good. Like coffee and music.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:09:39pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:11:44pm

re: #421 wrenchwench

Perko Bach sounds like something good. Like coffee and music.

As long as they play something OTHER THAN the Coffee Cantata.

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sagehen  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:14:18pm

So, *NOW* does James Comey regret doing what “seemed like the right thing at the time”?

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:16:20pm

re: #398 GlutenFreeJesus

efuseakay @efuseakay
Trump hasn’t released the pee tape. What’s he hiding?
6:44 PM - 19 Jul 2017
Retweets likes

Where are those tax forms…what is there to hide? With Trump there is always something.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:16:49pm

re: #425 ObserverArt

Where are those tax forms…what is there to hide? With Trump there is always something.

No one cares about his tax returns.

///

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Myron Falwell  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:16:50pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:18:42pm

re: #189 Sir John Barron

“Most Americans get health insurance through their employers. Many people don’t know that.”

/

These people really don’t understand that most Americans do know that. Many Americans also know they can’t make it on their $1500 a month take home pay if they have to pay $1000 - 1200 a month premium on family insurance coverage.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:19:32pm

re: #413 Myron Falwell

Actually, I’m surprised that the NAACP invited him in the first place.

Maybe they knew he would turn them down. They can use that later…like in 2018 and 2020.

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KGxvi  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:23:50pm

re: #413 Myron Falwell

Actually, I’m surprised that the NAACP invited him in the first place.

Reagan, both Bushes, Clinton, and Obama spoke at the NAACP conventions.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:24:57pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:27:32pm

re: #431 Amory Blaine

Charles posted this show

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I swear, that looks like Ernest Moniz on percussion.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:27:37pm

re: #427 Myron Falwell

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William Lewis  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:34:03pm

re: #341 Dr Lizardo

Actually, it did happen.

en.wikipedia.org

I remember reading about that when I was a kid - my dad, old US Navy man that he was, said that Welch and Taylor were “the luckiest sonsabitches” he’d ever heard of.

People discount the P-40. Yet Suburu Sakai said in his autobiography that a well handled P-40 was the most dangerous aircraft the Americans had in 42-43. It was a solid aircraft that was far more maneuverable than people realize due to it being not quite as good as the later P-51. The earlier P-36 that the P-40 was based on stomped on German Me-109’s in French hands and the P-40 was an improvement.

The engine was officially redlined at 52” of manifold pressure at 3000 rpm for 1 minute max but pilots in the south pacific would use as much as 75”@3400 for 10 ~ 15 minutes at a time boosting the engine to 1700 horsepower. Allison engineers were appalled but did later revise their manuals to allow a regular use of 65”@3000 - the beginning of Emergency War Power.

Much like the F4F Wildcat the P-40 was a far better aircraft than people realize - and they fail to mostly because the F6F & the P-51 were so good.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:37:21pm

re: #434 William Lewis

People discount the P-40. Yet Suburu Sakai said in his autobiography that a well handled P-40 was the most dangerous aircraft the Americans had in 42-43. It was a solid aircraft that was far more maneuverable than people realize due to it being not quite as good as the later P-51. The earlier P-36 that the P-40 was based on stomped on German Me-109’s in French hands and the P-40 was an improvement.

The engine was officially redlined at 52” of manifold pressure at 3000 rpm for 1 minute max but pilots in the south pacific would use as much as 75”@3400 for 10 ~ 15 minutes at a time boosting the engine to 1700 horsepower. Allison engineers were appalled but did later revise their manuals to allow a regular use of 65”@3000 - the beginning of Emergency War Power.

Much like the F4F Wildcat the P-40 was a far better aircraft than people realize - and they fail to mostly because the F6F & the P-51 were so good.

In particular, the P-40 in the Middle East and North Africa was a seriously deadly weapon against the Bf 109. The Desert Air Force was no slouch when it came to using the rugged, fast, and relatively well-armed American aircraft.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:38:40pm

re: #430 KGxvi

Reagan, both Bushes, Clinton, and Obama spoke at the NAACP conventions.

True, but neither of them were openly — and blatantly — hostile towards non-whites like Trump has been.

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:41:27pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:16:27pm

re: #427 Myron Falwell

He’ll go on Hannity that night instead.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:53:48pm

Night lizards.


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