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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:35:38pm
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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:39:26pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

well… based on what we know, who the hell else does he do business with?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:40:41pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Whiny crooked bastard says what?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:41:17pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Until he delves, he’s not going to know what’s related to Russia. Then again, blue dresses are related in some way to failed real estate dealings.

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:42:08pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:43:01pm

I’d heard about this. First time seeing the video.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:43:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:44:19pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:44:37pm

This is just the overture. Wait until one of Trump’s dumbass ideas actually gets implemented.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:46:03pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:46:32pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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In which the President accuses the former director of the FBI of blackmail and perjury.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:47:12pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:47:32pm

This is probably the initial setup to giving himself reason to fire Mueller.

If he does it, he really brings the heat on himself. He can’t fire everyone in Washington even though he will try.

Hmm. Can Mueller end up still in the hunt if he is hired as a full-on outside investigator even if Trump has him fired from the Justice Department investigation.

That would be so rich.

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:47:53pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Wait! I thought this was the #FAILINGNYTIMES, motivated only by hate, and publishing nothing but Fake News! Why is Trump giving them an interview?

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:48:25pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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You know Maggie was in on the interview when crap like this makes it into the story:

Over the course of 50 minutes, the often-fiery Mr. Trump demonstrated his more amiable side, joking about holding hands with the president of France and musing about having a military parade down a main avenue in Washington. He took satisfaction that unemployment has fallen and stock markets have risen to record highs on his watch.

At one point, his daughter, Ivanka, arrived at the doorway with her daughter Arabella, who ran to her grandfather and gave him a kiss. He greeted the six-year-old girl as “baby,” then urged her to show the reporters her ability to speak Chinese. She obliged.

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:52:40pm

re: #15 BeachDem

He greeted the six-year-old girl as “baby,” then urged her to show the reporters her ability to speak Chinese. She obliged.

What did she say in Chinese?
Get me out of here”????

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:53:43pm
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sagehen  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:53:56pm

re: #2 piratedan

well… based on what we know, who the hell else does he do business with?

Turkey, the Phillipines and Saudi Arabia. Despotic autocracies all.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 4:55:07pm

re: #15 BeachDem

You know Maggie was in on the interview when crap like this makes it into the story:

Over the course of 50 minutes, the often-fiery Mr. Trump demonstrated his more amiable side, joking about holding hands with the president of France and musing about having a military parade down a main avenue in Washington. He took satisfaction that unemployment has fallen and stock markets have risen to record highs on his watch.

At one point, his daughter, Ivanka, arrived at the doorway with her daughter Arabella, who ran to her grandfather and gave him a kiss. He greeted the six-year-old girl as “baby,” then urged her to show the reporters her ability to speak Chinese. She obliged.

“Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative”
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To me, those paragraphs are a brief interlude in the ‘HOLY SHIT!’ that is the rest of the interview. If I were his lawyers, I’d be checking and rechecking whether the retainer check had cleared, because they’ve got to be reading this and shaking their heads.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:02:33pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

“Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative”
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To me, those paragraphs are a brief interlude in the ‘HOLY SHIT!’ that is the rest of the interview. If I were his lawyers, I’d be checking and rechecking whether the retainer check had cleared, because they’ve got to be reading this and shaking their heads.

They must have run out of festivus grievances (he bitched about Comey, Rosenstein, Mueller, Sessions, McCabe—calling them all either liars and/or having conflicts of interest) because they cover the yam/putin conversation twice in the article—in graphs 7 and 8 and then again near the end (making sure to include how “interesting” it was that the conversation was about “adoption.”)

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:04:57pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Come on Tumpie, fire Sessions! I dare ya.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:05:05pm

re: #20 BeachDem

They must have run out of festivus grievances (he bitched about Comey, Rosenstein, Mueller, Sessions, McCabe—calling them all either liars and/or having conflicts of interest) because they cover the yam/putin conversation twice in the article—in graphs 7 and 8 and then again near the end (making sure to include how “interesting” it was that the conversation was about “adoption.”)

But of course, as any number of people have pointed out, talking about adoption = talking about sanctions.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:05:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:06:37pm

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

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Thoughts to his family. Awful thing for anyone to go through.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:09:31pm

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

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Not good.

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:10:02pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

There isn’t a single president in our history whose first six months have been this bad.

That includes… William Henry Harrison who died in office, James Garfield who was assassinated, and Zachary Taylor who died in office.

And that’s saying something. Trump is spectacularly awful, and it was entirely predictable based on his campaign performance and even before that - his business record and public persona being all bluster and bullshit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:10:38pm

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

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Here’s hoping they got it all! Best wishes for a speedy recovery, so we can go back to just being disappointed in him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:11:56pm

re: #26 lawhawk

There isn’t a single president in our history whose first six months have been this bad.

That includes… William Henry Harrison who died in office, James Garfield who was assassinated, and Zachary Taylor who died in office.

And that’s saying something. Trump is spectacularly awful, and it was entirely predictable based on his campaign performance and even before that - his business record and public persona being all bluster and bullshit.

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Mrs. FBW keeps saying, “Why is anyone surprised? It was obvious long before the election that he’d be this bad!”

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:13:00pm

I was looking up a case to answer Yglesias’ question and stumbled across that actual case name. law.justia.com


Only the second greatest case name caselaw.findlaw.com
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:13:05pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:13:18pm
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sagehen  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:13:39pm

re: #26 lawhawk

There isn’t a single president in our history whose first six months have been this bad.

That includes… William Henry Harrison who died in office, James Garfield who was assassinated, and Zachary Taylor who died in office.

And that’s saying something. Trump is spectacularly awful, and it was entirely predictable based on his campaign performance and even before that - his business record and public persona being all bluster and bullshit.

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It also includes Abraham Lincoln, who had to be smuggled into Washington for his Inauguration because the death threats were already so numerous. By the time he was sworn in, the nation had 1/3 fewer states than it had had on election day and was already at war.

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:13:45pm

re: #23 The Vicious Babushka

Glioblastoma. That’s the same thing that Teddy Kennedy had.

Damn…. that’s awful.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:14:25pm

re: #33 lawhawk

Glioblastoma. That’s the same thing that Teddy Kennedy had.

Damn…. that’s awful.

He’s around the same age as Teddy was too when Teddy got diagnosed too IIRC.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:16:28pm

re: #17 FormerDirtDart

Based on Trump’s language, It’s not clear he understands the definition of “recusal.”

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:16:29pm

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Donnie calls for McCain to resign via twitter.

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darthstar  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:17:31pm

Here’s Trump offering to give Putin a happy ending…note the gesture.

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No Depression  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:18:02pm

These fuckers just won’t quit.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:18:53pm

Sorry to hear about McCain’s cancer. Damn. Wouldn’t wish that on anyone.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:19:57pm

This is utter bullshit. Trump won’t even finance HIMSELF as a candidate.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:20:46pm

re: #38 No Depression

These fuckers just won’t quit.

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lol, Trump going to spend money to primary republicans? Shame he is too cheap to actually do it, that would be fun.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:20:48pm
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:21:18pm

Well, there must be something really juicy in there.

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:21:48pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Trump knows something huge is waiting to come out. He’s scared shitless. He’s pissed Mueller could look at his personal or family finances.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:23:06pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:24:07pm

re: #38 No Depression

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:24:15pm

I wish I could write half as well as Driftglass. driftglass.blogspot.com

Republicans then nominated and elected noted New York real estate con man, conspiracy monger and all-around scumbag, Donald J. Trump, who is currently doing pretty much exactly what you would expect a pig-ignorant Republican man-baby to do when given more power than anyone on Earth: staffing his White House with halfwit relatives and compliant stooges, fucking up everything he touches and blaming “Fake News” for his historic run of failures.

President Stupid now appears almost exclusively on Fox News which, it turns out that, in addition to being an openly fascistic propaganda mill, has also been a sexual predator petting zoo for years. It got so rampant that eventually the House of Murdoch had to pay both Roger Ailes and Bill O’Reilly more money than I will ever see in four lifetimes to go away and stop molesting the help. But in America, for-profit-wingnut-hate-mongering is a growth industry, and mere months after having cashiered its two biggest sexual predators (and driven away a number of their most recognizable on-air female humanoids) no one is even talking about it anymore. Now, as far as anyone can tell, Fox is being run by the rat that lives in Sean Hannity’s big empty skull and tells him what to say.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:24:19pm

re: #42 Kragar

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[trump] Don’t look at my family’s finances! There is nothing wrong with them at all, they’re huge and beautiful, but don’t look at them!! [/trump]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:25:02pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart

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Sam Clovis…not a scientist nor any possible tiny experience in agriculture.
Altho I suppose being originally from central Kansas means he got his agriculture expertise via osmosis…

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:25:23pm

re: #43 jaunte

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Well, there must be something really juicy in there.

I doubt it. I doubt Trump has any idea what’s criminal and what isn’t, and I also doubt he really understands the content of his finances. That may seem odd for a micromanager like him, but he’s never shown any hint of the self-awareness required to cover up something criminal, or indeed to even cook up even the most basic criminal scheme. I suspect that he has money, and financial people and executives in his organisation come to him with ideas and requests, and he approaches them only with the goal of looking and sounding good and masculine and tough, and decides based entirely on venal things like who has good boobs, who he likes the sound of, who has a single syllable name, and so on.

I suspect that what he doesn’t want Mueller or anyone to find is that he’s not as rich as he says he is. That’s all. That’s the only thing he cares about in his finances.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:26:03pm

re: #40 The Vicious Babushka

He means Russia will finance the candidates, just like it did with him.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:26:45pm

re: #40 The Vicious Babushka

This is utter bullshit. Trump won’t even finance HIMSELF as a candidate.

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It’s his typical response. It’s just like him wanting to sue everyone and never goes through with it.

I hope the Republicans are happy to have taken the snake into their party.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:27:08pm

re: #43 jaunte

Two things I’m confident in, even without any hard evidence yet:

1) tr*mp is much less wealthy than he claims to be

2) tr*mp’s fortune is based on the results of criminal activities to an unusual degree, even for corrupt plutocrats.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:28:51pm

re: #50 Renaissance_Man

I think he used to be careful about hiding his real net worth, but now he’s made it to the presidency of the United States, he doesn’t really need that particular ego crutch. There must be something he’s hiding that’s more serious than slightly less money than he claims.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:28:54pm

re: #16 Jay C

What did she say in Chinese?
Get me out of here”????

Probably “are you interested in a Trump penthouse apartment?”

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:29:17pm

re: #53 EPR-radar

criminal activities to an unusual degree

That’s the thing.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:29:45pm

re: #50 Renaissance_Man

I doubt it. I doubt Trump has any idea what’s criminal and what isn’t, and I also doubt he really understands the content of his finances. That may seem odd for a micromanager like him, but he’s never shown any hint of the self-awareness required to cover up something criminal, or indeed to even cook up even the most basic criminal scheme. I suspect that he has money, and financial people and executives in his organisation come to him with ideas and requests, and he approaches them only with the goal of looking and sounding good and masculine and tough, and decides based entirely on venal things like who has good boobs, who he likes the sound of, who has a single syllable name, and so on.

I suspect that what he doesn’t want Mueller or anyone to find is that he’s not as rich as he says he is. That’s all. That’s the only thing he cares about in his finances.

That rings true, but I think the way criminality gets into the picture is money laundering for Russian oligarchs. tr*mp’s incompetence made him radioactive for all normal bankers, so the only deals he’s done since then are dirty ones.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:31:21pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:31:30pm

re: #44 MsJ

Trump knows something huge is waiting to come out. He’s scared shitless. He’s pissed Mueller could look at his personal or family finances.

Jokes about his finances were the only ones that Trump categorically stated were forbidden at the White House Correspondents Dinner — the one in which Obama humiliated him (in Donnie’s mind).

It’s not just an ego thing. He owes so much money to so many people, and probably helped some launder assets, that a full investigation of his finances is bound to turn over some rocks hiding creepy crawlies. Remember, the IRS is still auditing his taxes, or so he claims.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:31:40pm

Love my work neighborhood.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:31:44pm

re: #54 jaunte

I think he used to be careful about hiding his real net worth, but now he’s made it to the presidency of the United States, he doesn’t really need that particular ego crutch. There must be something he’s hiding that’s more serious than slightly less money than he claims.

There may well be, but I doubt he really knows what it is. That would imply a level of intellectual curiosity or even animal cunning that he’s never displayed. And I don’t think that any particular ego crutch ever goes away for a bottomless pit of narcissism. This is a guy who continues to mail Graydon Carter pictures of hands, after all. And who Kris Kobach is convincing to tear down the entire American democratic construct so he can prove he got more votes than a woman.

If the Trump era has shown anything, it is that you can’t ascribe too petty or too pathetic a motivation to Trump, and that you’re pretty much always going to be wrong if you assume there’s a cunning plan behind the facade.

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sagehen  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:32:08pm

re: #40 The Vicious Babushka

This is utter bullshit. Trump won’t even finance HIMSELF as a candidate.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:32:28pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sam Clovis…not a scientist nor any possible tiny experience in agriculture.
Altho I suppose being originally from central Kansas means he got his agriculture expertise via osmosis…

Man knows a biscuit and how to get it buttered, I’ll tell you that.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:32:28pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Thoughts to his family. Awful thing for anyone to go through.

Agreed.

In all seriousness, his line of questioning to James Comey might have been a serious wake-up call. I can’t stop thinking about that. :/

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:33:36pm

re: #57 EPR-radar

That rings true, but I think the way criminality gets into the picture is money laundering for Russian oligarchs. tr*mp’s incompetence made him radioactive for all normal bankers, so the only deals he’s done since then are dirty ones.

He most likely had nowhere legit to turn. With his “success” in business what real bank would deal with him?

And his pride and arrogance is way too strong to ever admit defeat. So, he opened himself up to criminal financing to be able to survive and keep up the Trump Show.

He may never really have intended to run for president. Part of the deal with Putin and his bankers (mob) was he would have to run for President as a useful tool and the Russians would then do anything to get him elected.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:34:19pm

re: #59 wheat-dogg

Jokes about his finances were the only ones that Trump categorically stated were forbidden at the White House Correspondents Dinner — the one in which Obama humiliated him (in Donnie’s mind).

It’s not just an ego thing. He owes so much money to so many people, and probably helped some launder assets, that a full investigation of his finances is bound to turn over some rocks hiding creepy crawlies. Remember, the IRS is still auditing his taxes, or so he claims.

And he’s almost certainly got serious financial connections to Russian entities. I believe this is why he’s stubbornly refused to release his financial info. There’s something in there that he doesn’t want anyone to know, and I doubt it’s just being not as rich as he claims.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:35:18pm

re: #64 Myron Falwell

Agreed.

In all seriousness, his line of questioning to James Comey might have been a serious wake-up call. I can’t stop thinking about that. :/

Yeah I think so too. I wish him well. Terrible thing for anyone to go through.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:36:04pm

re: #57 EPR-radar

That rings true, but I think the way criminality gets into the picture is money laundering for Russian oligarchs. tr*mp’s incompetence made him radioactive for all normal bankers, so the only deals he’s done since then are dirty ones.

Again, probably true, but I doubt he’s aware that they’re illegal deals. In the same way I wouldn’t expect a four year old to understand the possible pitfalls in financial law, I wouldn’t expect the president to know which law he was breaking.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:36:42pm

Guessing this interview was before Trumpito was scheduled to testify.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:36:51pm

re: #64 Myron Falwell

So what’s Trump’s excuse? A brain tumor the size of a baseball?

I assume McCain’s wife will be appointed to inherit his seat.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:37:05pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

If Trump says “Don’t look behind the couch!”, you know that’s where the dead body is.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:37:22pm

Pee Tape. Pee Tape. Pee Tape.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:37:50pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

And he’s almost certainly got serious financial connections to Russian entities. I believe this is why he’s stubbornly refused to release his financial info. There’s something in there that he doesn’t want anyone to know, and I doubt it’s just being not as rich as he claims.

I still remember that business about tr*mp wanting ‘deliverables’ for his first meeting with Putin. Very revealing. tr*mp is owned by Putin.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:37:54pm

re: #65 ObserverArt

He most likely had nowhere legit to turn. With his “success” in business what real bank would deal with him?

And his pride and arrogance is way to strong to ever admit defeat. So, he opened himself up to criminal financing to be able to survive and keep up the Trump Show.

He may never really have intended to run for president. Part of the deal with Putin and his bankers (mob) was he would have to run for President as a useful tool and the Russians would then do anything to get him elected.

The big NYC banks, in fact, decided Trump was too much of a credit risk and stopped lending to him back in the 1980s. Something to do with over-leveraged properties and bankruptcies that left the banks with less money than they lent. So he got Deutsche Bank, which was also involved in the subprime mortgage crisis, to lend him money, and from his many Russian buddies.

I suspect Trump’s finances are a giant sandcastle just waiting for a big wave to wash them all away.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:38:08pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Yeah I think so too. I wish him well. Terrible thing for anyone to go through.

Try going through it without Government paid gold plated insurance. Now that’s a terrible thing.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:39:48pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

And he’s almost certainly got serious financial connections to Russian entities. I believe this is why he’s stubbornly refused to release his financial info. There’s something in there that he doesn’t want anyone to know, and I doubt it’s just being not as rich as he claims.

Trump is just a front man stooge for real billionaires from Russia to launder their money through.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:40:08pm

re: #68 Renaissance_Man

Again, probably true, but I doubt he’s aware that they’re illegal deals. In the same way I wouldn’t expect a four year old to understand the possible pitfalls in financial law, I wouldn’t expect the president to know which law he was breaking.

That I can see, although tr*mp trying to keep everything hidden is a sign he thinks it embarrassing and/or illegal.

tr*mp is a clueless and easily manipulated idiot that can’t get a loan from any decent bank. Of course he’s been more or less unwittingly laundering money for Russian mobsters since then.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:40:55pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

I have a deep seated hunch that 1) you are right in that this is huge compared to what we now know, 2) the worst of the Russian collaboration was not about HRC but in fact what they have on him, and 3) that it all goes back to shady money deals from long before he ever ran. Barely Billionaire/Bigger Oligarch deals.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:40:57pm

re: #70 Skip Intro

So what’s Trump’s excuse? A brain tumor the size of a baseball?

I assume McCain’s wife will be appointed to inherit his seat.

How would the seat be filled? Appointment or special election?

If there is a special election, you can bet it will be the most expensive special election, besting GA-5 by a wide margin.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:41:44pm

re: #79 Myron Falwell

Appointment until the next election I believe.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:42:02pm

re: #59 wheat-dogg

It was actually the roast by Comedy Central where he banned jokes about his net worth.

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:42:49pm

re: #75 Skip Intro

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:43:01pm

re: #79 Myron Falwell

How would the seat be filled? Appointment or special election?

If there is a special election, you can bet it will be the most expensive special election, besting GA-5 by a wide margin.

Governor appoints person from same party for remainder of term

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:44:12pm

re: #76 b.d.

Trump is just a front man stooge U.S. President for real billionaires from Russia to launder their money through use as a tool to mess with the U.S. in many areas like foreign policy and who knows what all.

This is how I am seeing it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:44:32pm

re: #75 Skip Intro

Try going through it without Government paid gold plated insurance. Now that’s a terrible thing.

Absolutely.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:44:48pm

re: #61 Renaissance_Man

There may well be, but I doubt he really knows what it is. That would imply a level of intellectual curiosity or even animal cunning that he’s never displayed. And I don’t think that any particular ego crutch ever goes away for a bottomless pit of narcissism. This is a guy who continues to mail Graydon Carter pictures of hands, after all. And who Kris Kobach is convincing to tear down the entire American democratic construct so he can prove he got more votes than a woman.

If the Trump era has shown anything, it is that you can’t ascribe too petty or too pathetic a motivation to Trump, and that you’re pretty much always going to be wrong if you assume there’s a cunning plan behind the facade.

He’s already said that his net worth varies, depending on his feelings:

“My net worth fluctuates, and it goes up and down with markets and with attitudes and with feelings, even my own feelings, but I try.”

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darthstar  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:45:00pm

re: #72 b.d.

Pee Tape. Pee Tape. Pee Tape.

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This is better than a pee tape…this is real prison time.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:45:18pm

re: #83 b.d.

Governor appoints person from same party for remainder of term

**trying desperately to avoid the image of the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man Jan Brewer**

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darthstar  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:45:34pm

How fucked is Trump?

So fucked he’s going to blab about it.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:46:28pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:47:40pm

re: #63 Barefoot Grin

Man knows a biscuit and how to get it buttered, I’ll tell you that.

And I bet he doesn’t burn his steak…….

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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:48:50pm

re: #79 Myron Falwell

an AZ special election for the Senate might be very interesting…

possible candidates on the Dem side:

Ann Kirkpatrick - who just lost to him recently but ran a decent campaign imho
Terry Goddard - Former mayor of Phoenix
Richard Carmona - 43’s former surgeon general who ran as a Dem against Flake

others of note:

Dem AZ Congressional Reps - Grijalva, Sinema

unabashedly sympathetic vote - Gabby Giffords (although I am unsure if she’s up to the job)

On the GOP side - Gov Doug Ducey, Rep Trent Franks (an utter abomination) and Various other GOP shills and con people…

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darthstar  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:49:24pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:49:25pm

re: #81 Stanley Sea

It was actually the roast by Comedy Central where he banned jokes about his net worth.

Right. Thanks for the correction.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:50:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:50:09pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:50:27pm

Trump the ignoramus is sure getting schooled on how Washington DC and Federal laws work.

He is going to find out all he is trying to do to save himself is only going to bring more investigations and cause more Republican congress members to distance themselves from him.

He doesn’t realize his bullying today threatening Senators is going to be remembered when he may need them to save his butt if they should decide to start impeachment proceedings.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:50:45pm

With that type of badmouthing, if I was Son of the South Jeff B Sessions. I might be walkin..

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:51:05pm

How drunk/stoned do you have to be to do this TWICE?

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:51:32pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:51:36pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:51:39pm

re: #98 Dave In Austin

With that type of badmouthing, if I was Son of the South Jeff B Sessions. I might be walkin..

Even worse, I might start doing my job.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:52:04pm

Charlie Pearce has his wolfman on tonite

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:53:03pm
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sagehen  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:53:09pm

re: #82 lawhawk

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That’s the same brain cancer that my father had, 25 years ago. The treatment he got was considered experimental at the time, so insurance wouldn’t cover it (it’s now considered “standard of care”, so a good insurance plan will pay for it.) That treatment cost $10,000 a month, in 1992 dollars.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:53:23pm

re: #97 ObserverArt

Trump the ignoramus is sure getting schooled on how Washington DC and Federal laws work.

He is going to find out all he is trying to do to save himself is only going to bring more investigations and cause more Republican congress members to distance themselves from him.

He doesn’t realize his bullying today threatening Senators is going to be remembered when he may need them to save his butt if they should decide to start impeachment proceedings.

He keeps forgetting that the president is not a king.

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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:53:29pm

re: #83 b.d.

pretty sure they’ll be a special election, they forced one for Gabby Giffords shooting, no appointment was done, Ron Barber had to run for the seat.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:54:00pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

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Classy response. No surprise there.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:54:34pm

re: #82 lawhawk

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A dozen years ago, Mrs. FBW was diagnosed with Stage I Breast Cancer. We had (and still have) excellent insurance through my employer, so that most of the ~$70,000 it cost twelve years ago was covered, but because she was diagnosed in October, her treatments were billed in two calendar years, so our out-of-pocket was about $7,000.

My income, then and now, was pretty good, so that $7000 didn’t break us. But suppose we weren’t so well off. Generally, good incomes come with good insurance, but the corollary is also true - bad or no insurance comes with low income. Hard as it was for us to pay that $7000, for anyone for whom that would have been harder, the bill would likely have been even higher, possibly crushing.

On top of that, Mrs. FBW wouldn’t have been able to work most of the weeks of chemo. If we depended on her wages just for food and rent, that would have been yet another big hit we took.

I think of that when people like Mike Fucking Pence talk about all the people ‘suffering from Obamacare’ and how we’re going to relieve them of that burden.

Fuck him. Fuck the horse he rode in on, and that horse’s Dad.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:54:36pm

Trump is worried Mueller might find out he’s actually not a billionaire.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:54:58pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Trump is really pissed off at Jeff Sessions

So we share a hobby. I was pissed at Jefferson Beauregard Sessions The Third long before it was presidential.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:55:04pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Did they find cancer again? I know it was a concern.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:55:56pm

re: #112 Dave In Austin

Did they find cancer again? I know it was a concern.

Glioblastoma

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:56:33pm

Made me tear up.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:56:44pm

re: #92 piratedan

an AZ special election for the Senate might be very interesting…

possible candidates on the Dem side:

Ann Kirkpatrick - who just lost to him recently but ran a decent campaign imho
Terry Goddard - Former mayor of Phoenix
Richard Carmona - 43’s former surgeon general who ran as a Dem against Flake

others of note:

Dem AZ Congressional Reps - Grijalva, Sinema

unabashedly sympathetic vote - Gabby Giffords (although I am unsure if she’s up to the job)

On the GOP side - Gov Doug Ducey, Rep Trent Franks (an utter abomination) and Various other GOP shills and con people…

It’s the GOP. Put some money on The Abomination.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:57:33pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

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Mueller is supposed to carry on the investigation that former FBI Director James Comey told Congress about before he was fired by President Donald Trump. That includes any links between Trump campaign associates and Russia, as well as “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation,” according to the letter appointing him.

cbsnews.com

I would think that if he uncovers the yam’s companies are laundering Russian money, that would be a situation that arises directly from the investigation. But that just my take on it—IANAL.

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:57:51pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:57:54pm

re: #110 GlutenFreeJesus

Trump is worried Mueller might find out he’s actually not a billionaire.

That is too mild. This has got to be much worse. The lengths he is going to protect himself are way more than saving how a 70 year old man looks now.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:58:40pm

re: #107 piratedan

pretty sure they’ll be a special election, they forced one for Gabby Giffords shooting, no appointment was done, Ron Barber had to run for the seat.

correct, thanks

Thirty-six states provide for senatorial vacancies by means of appointment by the governor. The appointed person then serves in that position until the next statewide general election is held. The winner of the election then finishes out the term. Those states are as follows:[1]

Arizona (1)

(1) The appointed person must be of the same political party as the Senator who vacated the seat.

ballotpedia.org

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:59:15pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 5:59:31pm

re: #116 BeachDem

Bad night for the yam

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:00:06pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:00:57pm

re: #121 Stanley Sea

Bad night for the yam

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“And the walls
come crumbling down;
and the walls
come crumbling crumbling….”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:01:04pm

re: #118 ObserverArt

That is too mild. This has got to be much worse. The lengths he is going to protect himself are way more than saving how a 70 year old man looks now.

Dead Russian hookers. But Trump is most concerned with the not-actually-a-billionaire thing.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:01:05pm

Spent most of the day working on a gnarly recursive function that takes a flat array of items with parent IDs and converts it to a multidimensional array to display as a hierarchical tree.

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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:01:16pm

re: #119 b.d.

so that means that 2018 we have Flake and McCain’s seat up, most likely… oooooo

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:01:18pm

re: #122 teleskiguy

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I’m not a fan of McCain at all but Trump has done nothing for our vets.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:01:31pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:01:33pm

re: #121 Stanley Sea

Bad night for the yam

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If I recall correctly, Deutsche Bank is the dirtiest bank in the world

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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:02:01pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

he’s looking to make more wounded ones…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:02:56pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

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Trump’s fans sure are a sensitive bunch aren’t they?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:03:58pm

...

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:04:26pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

So that’s your database references in the website, becoming a 3d rather than 2d chart?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:05:13pm
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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:05:39pm

re: #132 FormerDirtDart

then we’re guaranteed to get a real winner of a civil servant then

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:06:18pm

re: #135 piratedan

then we’re guaranteed to get a real winner of a civil servant then

never mind. post deleted. misread info

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:07:15pm

This made me think of Rorhshach in prison, “None of you understand. I’m not locked in here with you. YOU’RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!!”

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:07:41pm

Category-When you want an adult in charge.
Chinese Naval Group To Sail The Baltic Sea At Same Time As Russian Armada

China has sailed warships to the Baltic to hang with their BFF the Russians. It’s a WW3 trailer co starring President Trump as the comedic relief.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:07:58pm

Has Trump tweeted out some half-assed sympathy to McCain?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:08:01pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

Trump’s fans sure are a sensitive bunch aren’t they?

(obligatory ‘Fuck Your Feelings’ pic)

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:10:04pm

re: #139 Dr. Matt

Has Trump tweeted out some half-assed sympathy to McCain?

Trump would never do that. His staff might, but then they’ll probably spell his name wrong.

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fern01  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:10:37pm

Rachel thinks Sessions will resign. Trump really does eat his own.

My brain keeps saying - how did the US get to this? Is racism really that strong?

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:11:23pm

re: #142 fern01

Sadly, yes.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:11:51pm

re: #142 fern01

Rachel thinks Sessions will resign. Trump really does eat his own.

My brain keeps saying - how did the US get to this? Is racism really that strong?

Racism and sexism.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:11:59pm

re: #141 Skip Intro

Trump would never do that. His staff might, but then they’ll probably spell his name wrong.

As expected, half-assed:

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:12:10pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:12:27pm

re: #133 Unshaken Defiance

So that’s your database references in the website, becoming a 3d rather than 2d chart?

It’s actually for a separate project I’ve been working on, but your basic premise is pretty accurate!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:12:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:13:40pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

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Uh huh.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:14:10pm

re: #145 Dr. Matt

As expected, half-assed:

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Get well soon? He doesn’t have a cold, you ignorant talking yam.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:14:13pm

re: #145 Dr. Matt

As expected, half-assed:

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Yeah pretty weak sauce.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:14:25pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

What does that even mean? That, right there, is why I can never forgive McCain.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:15:00pm

re: #152 Skip Intro

What does that even mean? That, right there, is why I can never forgive McCain.

Authentic Wasilla gibberish.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:15:27pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

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Imagine being too dumb to get a job in the Trump administration.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:15:45pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:16:34pm

re: #152 Skip Intro

What does that even mean? That, right there, is why I can never forgive McCain.

The Palin secret decoder ring is simple enough. She always appeals to the toxic mix of bigotry, willful ignorance and unjustified resentment that define the US right.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:17:15pm

re: #43 jaunte

Trump threatening Mueller about his finances is par for the course for someone who refuses to share his tax returns with the public.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:17:18pm

re: #139 Dr. Matt

Has Trump tweeted out some half-assed sympathy to McCain?

He just did & it was half assed thoughts and prayers.

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Archangelus  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:17:38pm

I can’t deal with some of the crap i’m seeing on social media regarding McCain tonight.
Granted, it’s not half as bad as I thought it would be when I saw the news, but I just can’t deal with it.
My dad died of Glio last year, so I’m far too familiar with that damned disease and its trajectory to be willing to tolerate some of the hateful crapola.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:17:38pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Racism and sexism.

And all the nasty little -isms.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:18:18pm

re: #154 b.d.

Imagine being too dumb to get a job in the Trump administration.

Indeed. IIRC there was exactly one campaign even that Palin did for tr*mp. It was a disaster, and someone (most likely tr*mp because who else could decide anything) made sure there were no repeats.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:18:34pm

re: #137 Blind Frog Belly White

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This made me think of Rorhshach in prison, “None of you understand. I’m not locked in here with you. YOU’RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!!”

Yet McCain hates President Obama’s guts and didn’t try to hide that fact for the last 8 years.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:19:08pm

re: #142 fern01

Rachel thinks Sessions will resign. Trump really does eat his own.

My brain keeps saying - how did the US get to this? Is racism really that strong?

One political party is opposed to living in the 21st 19th 16th century.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:19:28pm

re: #159 Archangelus

I can’t deal with some of the crap i’m seeing on social media regarding McCain tonight.
Granted, it’s not half as bad as I thought it would be when I saw the news, but I just can’t deal with it.
My dad died of Glio last year, so I’m far too familiar with that damned disease and its trajectory to be willing to tolerate some of the hateful crapola.

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Thoughts with you.

Beau Biden & Ted Kennedy too.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:19:55pm
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MsJ  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:20:13pm
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Archangelus  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:20:47pm

re: #145 Dr. Matt

As expected, half-assed:

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Good freakin’ grief… “get well soon”? Calling SCROTUS a moron would be too kind…

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:20:55pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

Spent most of the day working on a gnarly recursive function that takes a flat array of items with parent IDs and converts it to a multidimensional array to display as a hierarchical tree.

I played solitare

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:21:04pm

Get well soon.

He’s such a putz.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:21:35pm

Never forget
0:43

Trump tells McCain: ‘I like people who weren’t captured’

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:21:40pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

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Lol! Now I’m snorting. Imagine that she could have been one heartbeat away from the presidency had the Russians colluded with McCain.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:22:06pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:22:34pm

re: #167 Archangelus

Good freakin’ grief… “get well soon”? Calling SCROTUS a moron would be too kind…

Wait for Palin’s comment. I think she’ll out low class Trump.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:22:55pm

re: #169 Stanley Sea

Get well soon.

He’s such a putz.

From tr*mp’s point of view, anyone that dies of something like this is likely just a ‘loser’. When someone is as completely sociopathic as tr*mp, you can always see that in how they say what they say.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:23:12pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:23:33pm

re: #166 MsJ

Trump is live by proof that money cannot buy class or intelligence.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:24:51pm

re: #175 Kragar

“William Timelord Sherman”

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:25:41pm
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Myron Falwell  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:25:54pm

re: #152 Skip Intro

What does that even mean? That, right there, is why I can never forgive McCain.

I have no idea how I’ll explain Palin to my children… should I have children of course.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:26:09pm

re: #174 EPR-radar

From tr*mp’s point of view, anyone that dies of something like this is likely just a ‘loser’. When someone is as completely sociopathic as tr*mp, you can always see that in how they say what they say.

McCain has personally failed Trump. Where was he when Trump needed his vote to take health insurance away from 30 million people? At the doctor! What a selfish ass!

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:26:31pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

Thanks, good to know. I happen to have been trying to find a way to do that with Excel spreadsheets, live charted into a wordpress site. Way over my own head. For now.

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Jenner7  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:26:54pm

Terrible news about McCain. I wish him well and I am thinking of him and his family.

Trump is an asshole, but you knew that.

The news today, ugh.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:26:55pm
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:27:05pm

Is resignation the right course, in the face of a president’s attempts to undermine the rule of law?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:28:03pm
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MsJ  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:29:45pm

Don’t know if this is true or not but…

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:30:05pm
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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:30:31pm

re: #38 No Depression

These fuckers just won’t quit.

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Trump financing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:31:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:31:47pm

re: #187 makeitstop

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Class again.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:32:00pm

re: #189 Charles Johnson

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Typical.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:32:26pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:33:00pm

re: #185 FormerDirtDart

A false positive rate of 99.5% is evidence that CrossCheck is working as intended. I’m sure Republicans will be all over ways to get that rate closer to 100%.

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Archangelus  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:33:02pm

re: #175 Kragar

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Mine has him riding a laser-wielding domesticated velociraptor instead of a T-rex…

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:33:06pm
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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:33:25pm

Thoughts to McCain. A coworker started having eye trouble, and come to find out it was a brain tumor. By the time they found it, it took up about 20% of her brain. Sadly, she died about 18 months after the discovery.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:33:46pm

re: #194 Archangelus

Mine has him riding a laser-wielding domesticated velociraptor instead of a T-rex…

Mecha T-Rex

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Myron Falwell  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:34:50pm

re: #184 jaunte

Is resignation the right course, in the face of a president’s attempts to undermine the rule of law?

Jeff Sessions should be facing perjury charges himself for lying during his confirmation hearing WRT his Russian ties.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:35:18pm

I like the alternate history where the Confederates win, then lose to an slave rebellion, resulting in a trans-Caribbean abolitionist state with a capitol in New Orleans.

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:35:37pm

re: #109 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve known far too many people who have dealt with cancer and all that comes with it. It’s a cruel disease.

It’s a disease that robs people of their dignity, and while some say that they’ll battle it and fight it, and that it’s a war (using all kinds of military metaphors), but the reality is that this disease is insidious and many who are diagnosed never see a cure. They have to suffer with the disease.

The physical toll isn’t only on the person with the disease, but on all those around them - friends and family. I’ve seen that up close and personal. I’ve seen those who had great insurance manage the bills, while those who were overwhelmed by expenses teeter on the edge of despair and bankruptcy, where only the charity and goodwill of friends and family helped them through.

What this GOP wants to do is absolutely unconscionable.

And there are those among the GOP who oppose what Trumpcare represents, not because it goes too far, but because it doesn’t go far enough. That’s the insanity on display.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:35:38pm
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mmmirele  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:36:13pm

re: #92 piratedan

an AZ special election for the Senate might be very interesting…

possible candidates on the Dem side:

Ann Kirkpatrick - who just lost to him recently but ran a decent campaign imho
Terry Goddard - Former mayor of Phoenix
Richard Carmona - 43’s former surgeon general who ran as a Dem against Flake

others of note:

Dem AZ Congressional Reps - Grijalva, Sinema

unabashedly sympathetic vote - Gabby Giffords (although I am unsure if she’s up to the job)

On the GOP side - Gov Doug Ducey, Rep Trent Franks (an utter abomination) and Various other GOP shills and con people…

It’s going to happen. There will be a special election and a lot of jockeying in advance. McCain is only 6 months into his 6 year term. The average survival time for a glioblastoma is 12-15 months after it’s discovered. I expect he may work a while longer, maybe into 2018, but he’s going to eventually have to withdraw due to his health. A glioblastoma is sucktastic and nobody’s good idea of a way to exit life. It’s truly unfortunate for McCain. :(

And yes, Trent Franks is a complete and utter abomination. He’s in the same class as my congresscritter, Rep. Andy Biggs (R-I Won The Publishers Clearing House Sweepstakes). The guy regularly posts crap from David Daleiden’s outfit. I keep threatening to turn him in to the federal judge in California that held Daleiden and his lawyers in contempt of court. In the meantime, I keep pointing out to him that as a graduate of BYU Law, his contempt for the courts is bringing down the law. He doesn’t like me very much, but I’ve never used my four-lettered words on his FB. Biggs’ beliefs are evil enough.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:36:17pm
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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:38:16pm

re: #194 Archangelus

Mine has him riding a laser-wielding domesticated velociraptor instead of a T-rex…

Those are what his troops ride into battle

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:38:29pm

More fake news,
Everyone knows the Earth in only 6,000 years old.
//

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:38:46pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:39:13pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

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Where is this $tree?

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:39:59pm

re: #192 goddamnedfrank

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That’s not how any of this works

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:43:34pm

So the Bros next target is Kamala Harris. Really sick of this purity shit. Yeah we have a President who obviously has lost his mental marbles and their solution is to make a guy even older than Trump the next nominee. Problems with Sanders’ approach to policy aside and the fact that he’s not a Dem, the man will turn 80 in the first year of the next presidential term. No thanks.And the Dems would be foolish to nominate him.

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stpaulbear  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:43:42pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

Spent most of the day working on a gnarly recursive function that takes a flat array of items with parent IDs and converts it to a multidimensional array to display as a hierarchical tree.

Clickbait.

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Archangelus  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:43:42pm

re: #187 makeitstop

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For demonstrations of proper class, we need to look elsewhere than POTUS… what a disgrace…

Sadly, they and other wishers are overly optimistic - glioblastoma isn’t something you “get over”, it’s terminal even with the best of treatments. The best that can be done is to prolong patient’s lives and improve quality of life as much as possible…

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:44:26pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

Spent most of the day working on a gnarly recursive function that takes a flat array of items with parent IDs and converts it to a multidimensional array to display as a hierarchical tree.

Well!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:44:54pm

re: #211 Archangelus

For demonstrations of proper class, we need to look elsewhere than POTUS… what a disgrace…

Sadly, they and other wishers are overly optimistic - glioblastoma isn’t something you “get over”, it’s terminal even with the best of treatments. The best that can be done is to prolong patient’s lives and improve quality of life as much as possible…

At least we have former Presidents like the Bushes, Clinton, and Obama who can show class in a time like this.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:45:09pm

re: #99 The Vicious Babushka

How drunk/stoned do you have to be to do this TWICE?

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Someone mentioned here the other day that their iPhone had an app for remembering where your car is parked. I went and found a similar one for Android. The best part of the app is that is uses your bluetooth connection to remember. Specifically, when you turn the car off and the bluetooth disconnects, it remembers where the phone was when it happened. You can download apps where you have to say “Remember where I am right now” which are good if you don’t have bluetooth, but I don’t always remember to lock my front door, much less open an app to tap.

As for him losing the car twice, he’s probably seriously lousy with directions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:47:16pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Thoughts to his family. Awful thing for anyone to go through.

The Kennedy and Biden families know what’s ahead and can be a source of expertise in coping.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:48:37pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:48:57pm

re: #129 Skip Intro

If I recall correctly, Deutsche Bank is the dirtiest bank in the world

I was working on patching walls and had Rachel on in the background.

When I heard the banking regulators are looking into Deutsche Bank I had to wonder how Angela Merkel fits into it and what she might be able to do to make the bank give up the goods.

If Merkel wants to help out America and the entire world this might be a chance to help knock out Trump.

Things keep getting more and more interesting. Fast.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:49:14pm

re: #214 Belafon

Someone mentioned here the other day that their iPhone had an app for remembering where your car is parked. I went and found a similar one for Android. The best part of the app is that is uses your bluetooth connection to remember. Specifically, when you turn the car off and the bluetooth disconnects, it remembers where the phone was when it happened. You can download apps where you have to say “Remember where I am right now” which are good if you don’t have bluetooth, but I don’t always remember to lock my front door, much less open an app to tap.

As for him losing the car twice, he’s probably seriously lousy with directions.

I sometimes dream that I am in a strange city and I can’t remember where I parked the car.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:49:22pm

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Kennedy and Biden families know what’s ahead and can be a source of expertise in coping.

Yep.

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:50:07pm

The more of those messages from former leaders I see, the more it looks like Trump was making a statement against his will.

His hands ain’t the only things that are shamefully small.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:53:00pm

re: #220 makeitstop

The more of those messages from former leaders I see, the more it looks like Trump was making a statement against his will.

His hands ain’t the only things that are shamefully small.

“No Don-Don, I’m not going to write this for you. Do it yourself, you are supposed to the President and this is part of the job.”

“I don wanna. Lemme play with the big red fire twuk instead!”

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:53:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:54:27pm

re: #222 makeitstop

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McMaster is just realizing this?

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Interesting Times  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:54:50pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:55:07pm

re: #222 makeitstop

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Wait till they read the after dinner discussion was about adoptions.

They need to Patriot up.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:55:18pm

Lizards already know this because we heard it from Teukka (who referenced teh source) the other day.
Confidant of Pope Francis condemns US religious right

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:55:26pm

OK, that’s rare.
A tweet from the POTUS account, that isn’t a retweet.
(on second look, he’s been using the account quite a bit today)

only 20+ minutes after Spicer’s office released the same statement

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:56:18pm

re: #200 lawhawk

Right after school let out, my 12 year old’s gifted teacher announced she had breast cancer that has gotten into some lymph nodes, though it hasn’t gotten into her bones. She’s done a round of chemo, with radiation coming later. Her gifted students have been making things for her, and last night, at one of the parent’s house, she came over and the kids played games with her.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:56:24pm

McCain has been thru enough physical horror in his life.

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:57:11pm
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Archangelus  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:57:47pm

re: #202 mmmirele

I think McCain’s going to retire before the end of the year. If anything, him suffering from glioblastoma can explain last month’s odd behavior during the Comey hearing, which could easily point to his condition being at a more advanced stage, where it’s not that uncommon for patients to have cognitive “seizures” (as local doctors call them) - suddenly transitioning from normal to incomprehensible to normal again, and making little sense to those around them (while from their perspective, they’re going on and talking/acting normally).
If he’s starting to show such signs at this point, he won’t be able to stay in office much longer…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:57:50pm

re: #230 MsJ

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 6:58:02pm

JESUS CHRIST

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:00:38pm

re: #224 Interesting Times

While greatly respecting McCain’s actions in that moment, he’s still the one responsible for bring the likes of Palin and her ignorant ilk to the GOP main stage.
That will always be part of his legacy too.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:02:11pm

re: #142 fern01

Rachel thinks Sessions will resign. Trump really does eat his own.

My brain keeps saying - how did the US get to this? Is racism really that strong?

If he doesn’t resign tomorrow he’s a doormat

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:02:23pm

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

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$200M. Would that even cover a year?

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:04:18pm

re: #236 Belafon

$200M. Would that even cover a year?

Typo in news story corrected to billion.

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VegasGolfer  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:05:17pm

re: #224 Interesting Times

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You know any decent American would do the same thing as McCain did.
Then there are republicans…

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Interesting Times  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:05:29pm

re: #234 FormerDirtDart

While greatly respecting McCain’s actions in that moment, he’s still the one responsible for bring the likes of Palin and her ignorant ilk to the GOP main stage.
That will always be part of his legacy too.

Exactly. All the evidence of the trumpism-to-be was right there in front of him at that moment, and I swear you could see the “Oh shit, WTF have we started” thoughts briefly flicker in his eyes…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:06:05pm

re: #29 gocart mozart

I was looking up a case to answer Yglesias’ question and stumbled across that actual case name. law.justia.com

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omg…that is THE BEST THING found so far this week.
Thank you!!!

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:06:34pm

re: #237 BlueSpotinAL

Typo in news story corrected to billion.

OK. But anyone thinking of taking the bait needs to remember what Murkowski said: The first time they go looking for money to cut, that’s where it will come from.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:08:49pm

re: #241 Belafon

OK. But anyone thinking of taking the bait needs to remember what Murkowski said: The first time they go looking for money to cut, that’s where it will come from.

Oh, I know Mitch McConnell is a master baiter.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:09:27pm
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Cheechako  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:09:59pm

McConnell already tried that bribe with Murkowsky. She quickly figured out that the money would be there for her vote but would then disappear as a savings in the next round of budget cuts. Are there any other stupid Senators gullible enough to take the bait? Yah, probably more than a dozen.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:10:49pm

re: #242 BlueSpotinAL

Oh, I know Mitch McConnell is a master baiter.

It’s so obvious, we even know what type of Kleenex is used.

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EPR-radar  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:10:58pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

omg…that is THE BEST THING found so far this week.
Thank you!!!

That case name definitely makes the short list, but IMO it’s a long way from the all time champion:en.wikipedia.org

United States v. One Package of Japanese Pessaries

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Whack-A-Mole  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:11:09pm

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Birth Control Works  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:11:12pm
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Amory Blaine  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:12:05pm
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majii  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:13:59pm

re: #142 fern01

“Is racism really that strong?”

Speaking from the POV of a POC over 60, to answer your question I say, “Hell, yes!” I don’t think some Americans see themselves as having racist tendencies, but that goes out the window when it comes to hiring a POC, having a POC marry into your family, hiring a POC who is a better candidate for the job than someone of your own race, having a POC become your next door neighbor, etc. If any of these things happen and the person reacts negatively to the PoC, that individual holds racist views against POC. My daughter is engaged to a white guy. They live in Alabama, and I worry about their safety everyday because racism is still alive, well, and thriving in America, and many in the South [and other places] still practice it, either overtly or covertly. When the three of us went out for breakfast in Montgomery, if some of the other restaurant patrons’ looks could have killed us, we’d all be dead and buried.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:15:03pm

The animals celebrating John McCain’s cancer in all the right wing site’s comment sections. Disgusting creatures.

breitbart.com

theblaze.com

pjmedia.com

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Birth Control Works  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:17:09pm

We had a family friend who survived the Battan March to return home under 80lbs. Later in life Diabetes and Malaria weakened him to the same weight.

It’s awful to watch someone go thru all that again at the end of life.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:17:24pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:19:50pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Racism and sexism.

Happy, based on the callers I deal with at work, I got to agree with you. Ever since Obama first announced that he would run for President, racism ran wild like the dam was broke.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:20:45pm

re: #253 FormerDirtDart

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I don’t like McCain but I appreciate this.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:20:46pm

Is Trump deluded enough to replace Sessions with Jay Sekulow?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:20:55pm

IOW, this will get good.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:21:12pm

re: #254 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy, based on the callers I deal with at work, I got to agree with you. Ever since Obama first announced that he would run for President, racism ran wild like the dam was broke.

Unfortunately, the rise of Obama also awoke something really ugly up.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:21:36pm

It 10:20 Eastern and Lawrence O’Donnell, for the second night in a row, just said the heathcare bill is dead. Dead. But, no one wants to tell the president.

He’s going to be talking to Barney Frank about that after some commercials.

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fern01  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:22:48pm

re: #122 teleskiguy

all talk no action

He really does self project.

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majii  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:23:03pm

re: #174 EPR-radar

“From tr*mp’s point of view, anyone that dies of something like this is likely just a ‘loser’. When someone is as completely sociopathic as tr*mp, you can always see that in how they say what they say.”

Sometimes what goes around does come around. Trump shouldn’t even begin to think he couldn’t contract a serious disease like cancer. John McCain didn’t know he had brain cancer until he was diagnosed, and the same thing could happen to Trump. Guy doesn’t know how to empathize or sympathize with others and seems to think he’s immune from the terrible things that happen to others. If he’s human, which he is, he could be stricken with a devastating disease, too, and he’d be just as surprised by it as McCain and others have been.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:23:32pm

I’m ambivalent towards McCain as a politician. Political animals are political animals. I think he tried.

I do feel for him as a person and will always respect his service.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:23:54pm

re: #253 FormerDirtDart

Reminds me of that famous video of Libyan rescuers pulling Ambassador Stephens out of the wreckage in Benghazi, thanking God that he was apparently still alive at that point and calling desperately for a car to get him to a hospital. RWNJs everywhere jumped on it claiming that they were desecrating his body and praising Allah for the infidel’s death. As I pointed out at the time, the real interpretation was obvious to anyone with the slightest knowledge of Arabic, but that would exclude right wingers and the shills who make a living pandering to them.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:24:10pm

re: #223 HappyWarrior

McMaster is just realizing this?

Fire em all!!!

Trump can do this all on his own.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:24:52pm

re: #263 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Reminds me of that famous video of Libyan rescuers pulling Ambassador Stephens out of the wreckage in Benghazi, thanking God that he was apparently still alive at that point and calling desperately for a car to get him to a hospital. RWNJs everywhere jumped on it claiming that they were desecrating his body and praising Allah for the infidel’s death. As I pointed out at the time, the real interpretation was obvious to anyone with the slightest knowledge of Arabic, but that would exclude right wingers and the shills who make a living pandering to them.

We’re talking about people who flip out the usage of the word Allah. Even though Arab Christians use the word too.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:27:01pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:28:25pm

re: #251 DodgerFan1988

PJMedia seems to be deleting the more egregious comments, and the tone is mostly respectful. The Blaze is respectful to a point. Breitbart? Forget about it, total cesspool of hate and fear.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:28:45pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

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Charles, those BreitFART comments are beyond disgusting. But it’s what I expected to see…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:29:21pm

re: #267 teleskiguy

Anyone blame Hillary yet?

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:29:27pm
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majii  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:29:33pm

re: #209 HappyWarrior

“Problems with Sanders’ approach to policy aside and the fact that he’s not a Dem, the man will turn 80 in the first year of the next presidential term. No thanks.And the Dems would be foolish to nominate him.”

What pissed me off about Sanders was when I read on Raw Story’s site that he said “Russia tried to divide the Democrats, too.” The man is totally clueless if he doesn’t realize that he took the lead in dividing Democrats last year with his failure to deal with the fact that we didn’t want him to be our presidential candidate. He needs to sit down and STFU, and do it in a hurry.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:29:34pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

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Can’t say I’m surprised.

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fern01  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:29:42pm

re: #167 Archangelus

Good freakin’ grief… “get well soon”? Calling SCROTUS a moron would be too kind…

Well he needs him back in the Senate - “get well soon” is all he’s got.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:30:03pm

re: #271 majii

“Problems with Sanders’ approach to policy aside and the fact that he’s not a Dem, the man will turn 80 in the first year of the next presidential term. No thanks.And the Dems would be foolish to nominate him.”

What pissed me off about Sanders was when I read on Raw Story’s site that he said “Russia tried to divide the Democrats, too.” The man is totally clueless if he doesn’t realize that he took the lead in dividing Democrats last year with his failure to deal with the fact that we didn’t want him to be our presidential candidate. He needs to sit down and STFU, and do it in a hurry.

Indeed.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:30:32pm

re: #269 GlutenFreeJesus

Anyone blame Hillary yet?

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:32:29pm

re: #249 Amory Blaine

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Video

Thank you! At the time they were performing I hated Fleetwood Mac. Why? Because I was an insecure teenager who chose sides and “Rumors” had become so popular among the kids I didn’t like much.

But I always liked the Buckingham/Nicks Fleetwood Mac (I don’t know the earlier version that people rave about). Lindsey Buckingham is probably a grade-a asshole, but he is an amazing guitarist/songwriter/performer. The entire band when in sync is unbeatable.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:33:09pm

re: #256 Joe Bacon 🌹

Is Trump deluded enough to replace Sessions with Jay Sekulow?

Sekulow is equally deluded and also under federal investigation.

So yes, yes, he would be deluded enough.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:34:43pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

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They do bandy that word traitor about quite a lot

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:36:41pm

Vacation time!

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:37:31pm

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:37:44pm

re: #239 Interesting Times

Exactly. All the evidence of the trumpism-to-be was right there in front of him at that moment, and I swear you could see the “Oh shit, WTF have we started” thoughts briefly flicker in his eyes…

I have always believed all these politicians know what is going on and exactly what they are doing. They just choose to ignore a lot of bad stuff to keep their jobs. A lot of them even partake in all the bad games fully knowing that is what they are doing. Usually justified as “I need to do this for the votes or I will never be able to do good.”

Hello sunshine, how do you balance the bad it takes to get to the good?

You really come up against your own character and very being as a politician. And most of the times the political choice is to go on ahead and fudge it for the power and wealth. It is the real strong person that says no, this is wrong and means it.

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:38:04pm

re: #275 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Any particular “reason”, or just “when in doubt, blame Hillary Clinton”??

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:45:56pm
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majii  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:46:43pm

re: #235 dangerman

“If he doesn’t resign tomorrow he’s a doormat”

Sessions’ game is having the ability to exercise control of others and impose his will on them. He’s a lowdown, dirty, racist, Islamophobic, homophobic POS. I don’t think he’ll resign because he has more power today than he’s ever had, and he’s relishing the idea of being able to use that power to accomplish his personal goal of relegating some of us to 2nd Class status in America.

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freetoken  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:49:44pm

re: #142 fern01

Rachel thinks Sessions will resign.

Why?

Or more specifically, when? Cabinet members resign over a President’s term, so that is not unusual.

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:50:23pm

re: #276 Barefoot Grin

Thank you! At the time they were performing I hated Fleetwood Mac. Why? Because I was an insecure teenager who chose sides and “Rumors” had become so popular among the kids I didn’t like much.

But I always liked the Buckingham/Nicks Fleetwood Mac (I don’t know the earlier version that people rave about). Lindsey Buckingham is probably a grade-a asshole, but he is an amazing guitarist/songwriter/performer. The entire band when in sync is unbeatable.

You MUST check out the Peter Green-Danny Kirwan-Jeremy Spencer lineup. A premier blues band.

This song still slays me every time.

Albatross - Fleetwood Mac

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:52:02pm

re: #282 Jay C

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:52:40pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:53:59pm

re: #285 freetoken

Why?

Or more specifically, when? Cabinet members resign over a President’s term, so that is not unusual.

He no longer has the trust of Trump. He most likely would resign before getting fired.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:57:43pm

re: #289 ObserverArt

He no longer has the trust of Trump. He most likely would resign before getting fired.

Edit to add…Jeff Sessions is also a very proud southerner of classic makeup. A president that questions you as much as Trump has is questioning your being. You resign for your own pride and the thinking it is the right thing to do.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:58:39pm

Ooof. No just no.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:58:54pm

So the new Del Toro has to be an Abe Sapien movie, right?

The Shape of Water - Official Trailer

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 19, 2017 • 7:59:08pm

re: #288 Charles Johnson

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:00:47pm
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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:02:40pm

re: #293 Unshaken Defiance

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:03:45pm

re: #250 majii

When the three of us went out for breakfast in Montgomery, if some of the other restaurant patrons’ looks could have killed us, we’d all be dead and buried.

That is a god damn disgusting shame.

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stpaulbear  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:06:08pm

re: #279 Stanley Sea

Vacation time!

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He’s going to do that while he told the Senate republicans to skip their August recess to work on Trumpcare? Haa-haa.

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calochortus  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:06:18pm

Greetings from the beautiful Pacific Northwest. I’ve mostly just skimmed this thread, but it’s good to know things are falling apart with the same regularity it was before we left on this trip. o_0

On the positive side, this is where we were this afternoon.

Mount St. Helens

We’ll be heading back up for some more hiking tomorrow, and then onward and northward to the Olympic Peninsula.

Yesterday we spent a couple hours at Newberry National Volcanic Monument south of Bend, OR. Very, very cool. There’s an amazing obsidian flow, among other things. It has apparently been a monument for 27 years, but I think the improvements (like paved roads) are just in the last few years.
I don’t think the Forest Service does a great job of publicizing the monuments they run. It’s not surprising, since it is really outside of their main mission, but it can make it harder to plan a trip. Apparently when a new monument is created, it gets run by whomever was administering the area before, so something that was in a national forest is run by the forest service. I understand the logic, and just trust they’ll get better at it.

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freetoken  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:11:11pm

re: #298 calochortus

When I first glanced at that image I thought “oh, blowed-up volcano”, then I read the caption, and yes, a blowed-up volcano.

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stpaulbear  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:11:25pm

re: #286 makeitstop

You MUST check out the Peter Green-Danny Kirwan-Jeremy Spencer lineup. A premier blues band.

This song still slays me every time.

This one too. They wrote it.

Fleetwood Mac - Black Magic Woman, Stereo 1968-73 CBS 45 record.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:12:21pm

Will be interesting if her friend can find the letter. I feel bad for McCain but am also kind of weary of the hagiographic treatment he’s getting now that he’s sick. He’s been far from a profile in courage the last few years.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:15:16pm

re: #298 calochortus

I’ll be up near there for the eclipse. I’ve been waiting 50 years for this.

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calochortus  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:15:39pm

re: #299 freetoken

When I first glanced at that image I thought “oh, blowed-up volcano”, then I read the caption, and yes, a blowed-up volcano.

We were here in (I think) 1996 and 2008 as well. It’s really fascinating to see the changes that occur over the years. Life is really returning relatively rapidly.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:15:54pm

Based on the cursory reading I’ve been doing about glioblastoma, I’m not confident of John McCain making it to the New Year. He’s a dying man at this point.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:17:05pm
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:18:24pm

“The importance of a public policy that responds to public needs in an affirmative way.”
Anti-Bannonism.

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calochortus  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:18:28pm

re: #304 teleskiguy

Based on the cursory reading I’ve been doing about glioblastoma, I’m not confident of John McCain making it to the New Year. He’s a dying man at this point.

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dangerman  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:18:31pm

new Fox News poll finds 74% of Americans want GOP lawmakers to reach out to Democrats and try to find a compromise on a new health care bill. That includes 86% of Democrats and 59% of Republicans.

Link

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Birth Control Works  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:21:05pm

This POTUS never fails to be a class act

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:22:33pm

If John McCain weren’t a U.S. Senator - say he was just some 80-year-old schmo collecting a meager Social Security check and occasionally uses Medicare when their health is dire - he’d be getting “End of Life” counseling right now. But no, he’s a fighter! He’s getting his care at the Mayo Clinic! He’ll survive and thrive!

He was on board with Trumpcare the whole time.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:24:16pm

re: #298 calochortus

Love the composition. Plus well wildflowers.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:25:03pm

re: #305 goddamnedfrank

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Verrrry interesting thread about the request

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sagehen  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:25:58pm

re: #304 teleskiguy

Based on the cursory reading I’ve been doing about glioblastoma, I’m not confident of John McCain making it to the New Year. He’s a dying man at this point.

It’s not a fast-moving cancer; his prospects depend on how early it was caught. He could still have 2-3 years.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:27:54pm

re: #313 sagehen

It’s not a fast-moving cancer; his prospects depend on how early it was caught. He could still have 2-3 years.

He’s also 80 years old, has already had cancer once, and was showing cognitive deficits months before the diagnosis. Only 5% of those diagnosed with glioblastoma live longer than five years. Most die within a year.

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Frenchy  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:29:06pm

re: #239 Interesting Times

Yeah, I really like Elliott but in response to his question about “how important” it was I have to say “Not very.” I do respect McCain’s responses there but what has he done since then to push back against that element of the GOP base? Sarah Palin, 8 years of being a bitter old man over the 2008 loss and trashing Obama at EVERY opportunity, then more recently his consistently toothless “concern” over Trump even after Trump spat on his military record.

I do feel for McCain re: his health issues but when I watch that clip I don’t think to myself that he’s some kind of hero in that moment, given everything that’s come since, and where we are now as a result.

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calochortus  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:31:00pm

re: #311 Unshaken Defiance

Love the composition. Plus well wildflowers.

Thanks. The photo just sort of composed itself.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:32:03pm

re: #286 makeitstop

You MUST check out the Peter Green-Danny Kirwan-Jeremy Spencer lineup. A premier blues band.

This song still slays me every time.

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Video

That was cool! I’ll check out more.

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calochortus  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:34:47pm

Anyhoo, it’s time to relax with a glass of wine and some planning for tomorrow with Mr. C.

Hasta mañana whenever I get the chance to check in again.

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:37:49pm

re: #290 ObserverArt

Edit to add…Jeff Sessions is also a very proud southerner of classic makeup. A president that questions you as much as Trump has is questioning your being. You resign for your own pride and the thinking it is the right thing to do.

Sessions? Pride? When he can fuck over the blahs, wimmins folk, and anyone else not KKK lily white and Christian? I’ll give ya odds that he ain’t resigning. There’s way too many people to hurt.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 5:54:42am

re: #317 Barefoot Grin

That was cool! I’ll check out more.

That song was written as Peter Green’s homage to ‘Sleepwalk’ by Santo & Johnny.

And for the guitar geeks - go back to the video and look at the Strat that Kirwan is playing. It’s got a 3-way switch on the lower horn that usually doesn’t appear on Stratocasters. And it’s stock - an odd one-off or prototype that Kirwan bought in San Francisco.

That concludes today’s Largely Meaningless Guitar Trivia.


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