In NYT Interview, Trump Lashes Out at Jeff Sessions, James Comey and Robert Mueller

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Trump has done it again. In a new interview with the New York Times published tonight, he succeeds in making himself look like even more of a malevolent jackass, a feat many would have declared impossible: Citing Recusal, Trump Says He Wouldn’t Have Hired Sessions.

WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Wednesday that he never would have appointed Attorney General Jeff Sessions had he known Mr. Sessions would recuse himself from overseeing the Russia investigation that has dogged his presidency, calling the decision “very unfair to the president.”

In a remarkable public break with one of his earliest political supporters, Mr. Trump complained that Mr. Sessions’s decision ultimately led to the appointment of a special counsel that should not have happened. “Sessions should have never recused himself, and if he was going to recuse himself, he should have told me before he took the job and I would have picked somebody else,” Mr. Trump said.

There’s a huge amount of bad craziness in this interview, but one of the stupidest moments is when Trump attacks and threatens special counsel Robert Mueller:

Mr. Trump was also critical of Mr. Mueller, a former F.B.I. director, reprising some of his past complaints that lawyers in his office contributed money to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign. He noted that he actually interviewed Mr. Mueller to replace Mr. Comey just before his appointment as special counsel.

“He was up here and he wanted the job,” Mr. Trump said. After he was named special counsel, “I said, ‘What the hell is this all about?’ Talk about conflicts. But he was interviewing for the job. There were many other conflicts that I haven’t said, but I will at some point.”

This is a picture of a man lashing out at everyone around him, because his fantasy world built on lies is coming apart at the seams.

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582 comments

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Birth Control Works  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:23:04pm

THIS POTUS never fails to be a class act.

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freetoken  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:25:17pm

Let’s be frank here - AZ will need a new Senator soon.

For all the kind words for McCain, his is a quite serious problem for anyone, but especially for anyone his age.

This brings up the spectre of what the AZ will do as for appointing a replacement. Will the Republicans who run AZ bow to Trump’s wishes? Ducey is on board the Trump train, is he not?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:27:16pm

Bless you CL.

Bittersweet how CL is in our minds often with a new thread.

This is a very interesting read

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:31:31pm

re: #3 Stanley Sea

Keeping Trump “out” of it.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:33:53pm

The callous RWNJ attacks on McCain show us several things, one being that the Trumperati put the Bern-outs to shame in their demands for absolute purity and conformity. Even McCain’s self-abasing support for Trump wasn’t enough to outweigh his criticism of Islamophobia or his dislike of Putin with them. These people are fascists.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:34:22pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:35:05pm
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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:35:45pm

re: #2 freetoken

If Ducey nominates himself, then as b.d. pointed out, he gets roughly whatever time was left on McCain’s term, 2022.

the thing is, then there’s a special election for Govenor..

If he nominates a wingnut du juor from the Congressional group of GOP AZ Reps, then you’re getting a choice between:

McSally - AZ 2 (swing district, could very well go Dem in a special election) R+2
Gosar - AZ 4 - a +21R district
Biggs -= AZ 5 - a R+15 district
Schweikert - AZ 6 - R+9
Franks - AZ 8 - R+13

with special elections being so close, my money is on Gosar, incredibly safe district for the GOP and he’s a fucking nonety, so he’ll likely do whatever the fuck he’s told.

A longshot would be anyone in the state lege or he could just select Cindy McCain but that assumes that she’ll play nice, unsure about that.

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jhncsy  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:39:22pm

re: #6 GlutenFreeJesus

I don’t know who I despise more: the GOP base constantly supporting the people trying to fuck them over, or the GOP Politicians constantly chasing after the asshole vote.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:41:37pm

re: #6 GlutenFreeJesus

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Breitbart still a dump.

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freetoken  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:41:38pm

re: #8 piratedan

If Ducey is an aspiring politician, why not nominate himself? AZ has term limits on governor, yes?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:42:10pm

Regarding Trump warning Mueller.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:42:14pm

re: #9 jhncsy

I don’t know who I despise more: the GOP base constantly supporting the people trying to fuck them over, or the GOP Politicians constantly chasing after the asshole vote.

It’s hard to say. It’s the chicken and egg of politics imo.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:42:41pm

re: #8 piratedan

An R+115 district is going to be hard to beat.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:43:34pm

re: #7 Stanley Sea

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I am thankful for Florida Man, since he keeps Texas Man from being the craziest creature known to media. Texas Man is closing in though.
I’m so old I can remember when California was alleged to be the leading abode of crazy people. Now, Cal seems almost sane by comparison since much of the rest of the country has gone utterly batshit.

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freetoken  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:43:48pm

re: #14 Single-handed sailor

An R+115 district is going to be hard to beat.

Time travel anomaly.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:44:54pm

That’s a lot of correspondence.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:46:00pm

“Or codes.”

That should send a chill down a few spines.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:46:25pm

“How much do they know?”

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:46:59pm

This might just be wishful thinking but since my tendency is to find analogies in the natural world here goes: Trump’s solid base of support among Republicans isn’t as firm as it seems, but is instead like a volume of liquid that has just reached its freezing point. It will take a certain amount of time for the liquid’s temperature to drop further while the environment continues to extract the latent heat of fusion from the substance, finally allowing it to freeze.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:47:23pm
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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:48:15pm

re: #11 freetoken

yes, he’s a Koch head, so he may very well be quite ambitious enough to try… the problem is AZ demographics are trending purple, so while 2022 is a long ways off and there is the power of incumbency, considering these times, the Gov could swing blue if Ducey steps into the role, unsure if the national party has any pull there to influence who does what.

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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:49:00pm

re: #14 Single-handed sailor

byte me and my sticky keyboard…

also too… edited to reflect the actual district… +1115

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freetoken  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:49:28pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

Contrarily, America is at it’s triple point, and future phases are uncertain.

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ozharas  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:49:51pm

re: #7 Stanley Sea

not sure how shooting out tyres and at engines makes the trucks move out, seems counter-intuitive…

And to do that while a man is in the cherry picker? Insane.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:50:05pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Breitbart still a dump.

I haven’t bothered diving into the Hoft cave. I’d imagine shit there is infinitely worse.

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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:50:18pm

re: #16 freetoken

the beauty of the perfect gerrymandered district

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:50:29pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

This might just be wishful thinking but since my tendency is to find analogies in the natural world here goes: Trump’s solid base of support among Republicans isn’t as firm as it seems, but is instead like a volume of liquid that has just reached its freezing point. It will take a certain amount of time for the liquid’s temperature to drop further while the environment continues to extract the latent heat of fusion from the substance, finally allowing it to freeze.

This is probably a better explanation.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:51:10pm

re: #17 jaunte

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That’s a lot of correspondence.

That’s a lot of Russians.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:51:11pm

re: #7 Stanley Sea

Dude like that should have his guns taken away forever. Alas, it’s Florida, where even George Zimmerman is still a lawful firearm owner.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:51:52pm

2017

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:52:15pm

re: #29 BlueSpotinAL

That’s a lot of Russians.

Especially the one named Stein.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:52:23pm

re: #25 ozharas

not sure how shooting out tyres and at engines makes the trucks move out, seems counter-intuitive…

And to do that while a man is in the cherry picker? Insane.

From what I read in the article, even neighbors are stunned. Looks like dude just snapped. Probably shouldn’t have been a firearm owner in the first place.

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freetoken  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:52:26pm

re: #28 goddamnedfrank

We will find out in the next election.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:52:47pm

re: #31 FormerDirtDart

2017

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If no Democrat runs, I know who I’m voting for.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:53:35pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:54:01pm

re: #17 jaunte

On that list: JILL STEIN

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:54:22pm

I’m pretty sure that in Germany if you want to own firearms in private you have to give an interview to local police, they want to make sure you’re not going to do something like shoot out tires and radiators on utility trucks with a revolver, one of many steps in private firearm ownership.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:56:22pm

re: #36 jaunte

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Nuts.

Delusion isn’t healthy Donnie Baby.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:56:46pm

re: #31 FormerDirtDart

2017

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Better than Abbott.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:57:43pm

re: #2 freetoken

Let’s be frank here - AZ will need a new Senator soon.

For all the kind words for McCain, his is a quite serious problem for anyone, but especially for anyone his age.

This brings up the spectre of what the AZ will do as for appointing a replacement. Will the Republicans who run AZ bow to Trump’s wishes? Ducey is on board the Trump train, is he not?

didn’t Palin move into his neighborhood (election district?)

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jhncsy  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:58:12pm

re: #28 goddamnedfrank

I’ve heard the same thing: Trump’s approval among Republicans is fairly steady, but the number of Republicans is dropping.

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:58:23pm

re: #31 FormerDirtDart

re: #40 HappyWarrior

I still think Texas would have better off electing Kinky Friedman.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 8:59:55pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:01:02pm

re: #36 jaunte

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Nuts.

Next time someone needs to give him an upside-down-tuned strat, lighter fluid, and matches to end his speech.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:01:03pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

The US Library of Congress defines the German gun control system as “one of the most stringent in Europe”.

And professor Christian Pfeiffer of Criminology Research Institute of Lower Saxony also told The Local that Germany’s laws were some of the toughest worldwide.

Germans do not have fundamental rights to bear arms, unlike Americans do under the Second Amendment, and the country’s violent past including the Nazi era has certainly helped to shape the current strict regulations.

To get a gun, Germans must first obtain a firearms ownership license (Waffenbesitzkarte) - and you may need a different one for each weapon you buy - or a license to carry (Waffenschein).

Applicants for a license must be at least 18 years old and undergo what’s called a reliability check, which includes checking for criminal records, whether the person is an alcohol or drug addict, whether they have mental illness or any other attributes that might make them questionable to authorities.

The also have to pass a “specialized knowledge test” on guns and people younger than 25 applying for their first license must go through a psychiatric evaluation.

One must also prove a specific and approved need for the weapon, which is mainly limited to use by hunters, competitive marksmen, collectors and security workers - not for self-defence.

Once you have a license, you’re also limited in the number of and kinds of guns you may own, depending on what kind of license you have: Fully automatic weapons are banned for all, while semiautomatic firearms are banned for anything other than hunting or competitive shooting.

Under the reforms passed in the wake of a 2009 mass shooting, gun owners are also subject to continued monitoring by the government with officials able to ask gun owners at any time to enter their private property and check that they are properly storing their weapons.

thelocal.de

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jhncsy  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:01:18pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

Goddamn, I hate this man and all of his enablers.

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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:02:11pm

re: #41 Birth Control Works

she did move to AZ, but afaik, she hasn’t inserted herself into the State politics because she considers herself a national player

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:03:41pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

In spite of all that stringent regulation…

…the country was still home to the fourth-highest number of legal guns per capita in 2013, falling behind just the United States, Switzerland and Finland.
About 2 million people own more than 5.5 million legal guns in Germany for a population of more than 80 million.

On top of that, police unions have estimated that there are up to 20 million more illegally-owned guns in Germany - this would mean roughly 30 guns for every group of 100 people.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:04:07pm

Further down the thread

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:04:16pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

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I feel dumber for reading that.

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Frenchy  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:04:59pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

Does anyone understand what Trump is talking about here on pre-existing conditions?

Pretty sure the answer to that is nope, no one. Sure as fuck not me.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:05:35pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

Further down the thread

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Historically ignorant too. It wasn’t the end of the German Army when they lost in Moscow.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:05:58pm

OMFG….

Noted useless waste of space at CNN Chris Cilizza did a Reddit Q&A yesterday I guess.

It went just about the way you would suspect.
(H/T John Cole)

reddit.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:10:41pm

I don’t mean to make light of McCain, but are we sure Trump himself doesn’t have a brain tumor?

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ipsos  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:11:05pm

re: #14 Single-handed sailor

An R+115 district is going to be hard to beat.

Kris Kobach’s work here is done…

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:11:52pm

re: #55 GlutenFreeJesus

I don’t mean to make light of McCain, but are we sure Trump himself doesn’t have a brain tumor?

He’s got snakes for brains.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:12:23pm

This fecking idjit.

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retired cynic  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:13:39pm

re: #55 GlutenFreeJesus

I don’t mean to make light of McCain, but are we sure Trump himself doesn’t have a brain tumor?

It’s gone on too long.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:14:51pm

re: #58 jaunte

You know why Macron made such an impression on Fuckface Von Clownstick in re: hand holding? He did hold his hand more inordinately, because he thought privately as FVC’s hand was in his “It’s true! All of it. He has very very small hands!”

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:17:09pm

Great thread on the NYT article

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Mike Lamb  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:17:49pm

Seeing his comment about Sessions, anyone doubting Comey’s contention that Trump demanded a promise of loyalty should wear a helmet any time he/she leaves the house.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:18:30pm
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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:20:30pm

re: #36 jaunte

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Nuts.

Could Maggie be any more of a suckup? (And could the yam be any creepier?)

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:20:39pm

re: #61 FormerDirtDart

Great thread on the NYT article

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I keep going back to his statement that he thought Comey was holding the dossier against him to keep his job………..he just gave the dossier credence.

oh my

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:21:11pm

re: #64 BeachDem

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:21:12pm

re: #48 piratedan

she did move to AZ, but afaik, she hasn’t inserted herself into the State politics because she considers herself a national player

Well this does fit the bill.

Excuse me. I need to throw up now.

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retired cynic  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:22:51pm

re: #64 BeachDem

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Could Maggie be any more of a suckup? (And could the yam be any creepier?)

Yeah, she is, but she’s getting him on record with some of the creepiest crap!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:23:28pm

re: #64 BeachDem

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Could Maggie be any more of a suckup? (And could the yam be any creepier?)

He’s so creepy.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:24:29pm

re: #48 piratedan

she did move to AZ, but afaik, she hasn’t inserted herself into the State politics because she considers herself a national player

She sold the AZ house in 2016.

azcentral.com

(sorry if a repeat—I’m behind on the thread)

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:24:46pm

re: #68 retired cynic

Yeah, she is, but she’s getting him on record with some of the creepiest crap!

I think the suck up is planned.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:26:10pm
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retired cynic  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:26:42pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

I think the suck up is planned.

Saudi, Poland and France aren’t the only three entities that see what he wants.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:26:44pm
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Jay C  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:28:48pm

re: #64 BeachDem

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Could Maggie be any more of a suckup? (And could the yam be any creepier?)

While I think the answer to both those questions is, unfortunately, “yes” , it’s probably just as well she let the Idiot-in-Chief ramble away: the more he talks, the more imbecilic he comes across. But, yeah: this buffoon is POTUS … really reflects well on us!

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:29:51pm

re: #64 BeachDem

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Could Maggie be any more of a suckup? (And could the yam be any creepier?)

Is she a suck up or is she baiting him by stroking his ego and letting him ramble endlessly. A suck up would have helped him not sound so stupid. No?

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:30:14pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

I think the suck up is planned.

Then she’s playing a very looooonnnnnggggg game.

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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:30:15pm

re: #70 BeachDem

np, glad she moved, maybe she can find Kansas more to her liking, or Texas…

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:30:42pm

re: #70 BeachDem

She sold the AZ house in 2016.

azcentral.com

(sorry if a repeat—I’m behind on the thread)

Thank God!!!

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:30:46pm

re: #28 goddamnedfrank

This is probably a better explanation.

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I’ve been commenting on not trusting high approval numbers for a month or so. People keep saying Trump holds that 80+% rating and they will never change.

I keep trying to point out if there are less self-identifying Republicans he and the party are losing numbers but it wouldn’t show in a poll of Republican voters.

Simple example:

80% of 100 voters is 80.

80% of 50 voters is 40.

Poll still shows 80%!

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:31:14pm

I don’t want to read the latest NYT Fuckface Von Clownstick transcript. Last time I read a FVC transcript I could feel myself getting dumber.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:31:15pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:31:38pm

re: #77 BeachDem

Then she’s playing a very looooonnnnnggggg game.

From the election till now, yeah.

But that interview is insane. I’m glad they got it.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:31:43pm
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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:32:11pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:32:32pm

Reporters traditionally give considerable deference to the POTUS in interviews. Dan Rather took quite a lot of heat for that “wait a minute” moment in his interview with Bush 41.

Not saying anything here is right or wrong, just that when talking to the POTUS, questions tend to be circumspect.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:33:42pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:34:56pm

re: #82 jaunte

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:35:21pm

re: #87 Scottish Dragon

Extracurricular activities?

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:36:43pm

re: #76 MsJ

Is she a suck up or is she baiting him by stroking his ego and letting him ramble endlessly. A suck up would have helped him not sound so stupid. No?

I guess I’m out here on my own about Maggie Haberman. Almost all of her stories give him many benefits of many doubts IMO. And she tends to wax romance novelly (most often in the stories she writes with Glenn Thrush) in much of her phrasing.

I could be wrong (it has happened once before!) but I think she really likes the attention from him—he tends to say nice things about her, even when he’s blasting the NYT.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:37:38pm

Im not too keen on Maggie and Glenn’s extreme deference game for access to Turnip in light of how the NYT was during the campaign and continues to be. There’s something weird about the relationship as opposed to Wapo.

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retired cynic  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:37:50pm

re: #89 jaunte

Extracurricular activities?

Yep. And they froze.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:38:49pm

re: #89 jaunte

Extracurricular activities?

Yeah…trying to absorb that one also….

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:39:15pm

re: #85 Kragar

*sigh*

…and the fuckery continues apace.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:39:31pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:39:44pm

re: #92 retired cynic

Yep. And they froze.

Are we sure Trump isn’t talking about Game of Thrones here?

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:39:49pm

Able in sports, clubs, and student government was he, ere he saw Elba.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:40:57pm

Remember the good ol’ days when we thought W. would go down as the least well spoken U.S. President?

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:41:15pm

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:42:15pm

re: #74 jaunte

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:43:18pm

re: #91 JordanRules

Im not too keen on Maggie and Glenn’s extreme deference game for access to Turnip in light of how the NYT was during the campaign and continues to be. There’s something weird about the relationship as opposed to Wapo.

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I think Ms Kendzior is generally on target in her twitter feed…but Trump just insulted Sessions in the most public and humiliating way possible. The folks on MSNBC were correct when they said that if any POTUS makes those comments about you then you really do have to resign. Who the hell could possibly work under you and think you had any ability to do you job after the man in the Oval Office says hiring you was a mistake?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:44:05pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:46:57pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:47:24pm

re: #99 Kragar

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Totally off thread here, but my American based civilization in Evony somehow manged to recruit Alexander The Great, Charles the Great, Spartacus, Attila the Hun, Cleopatra, Buffalo Bill, Oda Nobunaga and Emperor Qin Shihuang…

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:49:34pm

You know, if it gets to a point where Trump is going to have to testify in a hearing about his activities in Russia it is going to be completely nuts.

He is going to ramble, lie, deceive, dodge, act stupid, forget remembering, and say a whole ton of shit that will make no sense.

He’s done and said stupid stuff in depositions and business proposals. The way he seems to be struggling mentally now those will be mild by comparison.

It will be completely sad to see this is our President. It may be enough alone to say he is no longer fit for office for anyone that still hasn’t figured that out.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:50:24pm

re: #104 Scottish Dragon

Never played it

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Frenchy  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:50:26pm

re: #91 JordanRules

Yeah these were basically my thoughts when reading the Sessions stuff. Of course part of me thinks that Trump is not smart or savvy enough to misdirect with this sort of palace intrigue, and that he’s just saying the first thing that pops into his head as usual. On the other hand, people close to him probably are smart enough. So who knows. But I certainly take it with a grain of salt at this point.

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prairiefire  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:51:26pm

Gah, I need to go to sleep but there is just so much shit going down!

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:51:31pm

re: #101 Scottish Dragon

This is how relationships with him work. It’s abusive, yes. But folks stay in for a mess of dysfunctional reasons.

Maybe he will go and we’ll have to look at the autocratic strategy - new AG becomes Mueller’s boss essentially and it gets crazier.

But there’s definitely a pattern with the NYT palace intrigue bullshit they keep pushing while he trashes them and then continues to give them attention and access. Wapo just keeps the foot on the pedal and he doesn’t react much.

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Frenchy  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:52:00pm

re: #101 Scottish Dragon

Eh, you are assuming here that Sessions possesses even a modicum of self respect. A pretty big leap IMO.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:52:29pm

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

Frankly My Dear 🐁 @goddamnedfrank
Alexander the Great was pretty good y’know. He invented steam, impressive. Murdered by the first robot. Really makes you think #TrumpHistory
12:38 AM - 20 Jul 2017

Did you know a lot of people didn’t know that!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:53:06pm

re: #102 FormerDirtDart

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Did they catch him in the act of singing this?

David Bowie - Life On Mars?

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:53:23pm

re: #90 BeachDem

I guess I’m out here on my own about Maggie Haberman. Almost all of her stories give him many benefits of many doubts IMO. And she tends to wax romance novelly (most often in the stories she writes with Glenn Thrush) in much of her phrasing.

I could be wrong (it has happened once before!) but I think she really likes the attention from him—he tends to say nice things about her, even when he’s blasting the NYT.

I just read the entire interview (Sarah palin is a Rhodes Scholar next to trump) and I got the impression she was totally trolling him. I’ll find an example but one time it actually made me LOL.

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Interesting Times  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:53:36pm

re: #110 Frenchy

Eh, you are assuming here that Sessions possesses even a modicum of self respect. A pretty big leap IMO.

Agreed. Sessions ain’t going anywhere as long as there are POC to disenfranchise/jail, civil assets to be seized, and drug wars to restart -_-

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:54:34pm
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KGxvi  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:56:39pm

re: #8 piratedan

If Ducey nominates himself, then as b.d. pointed out, he gets roughly whatever time was left on McCain’s term, 2022.

the thing is, then there’s a special election for Govenor..

If he nominates a wingnut du juor from the Congressional group of GOP AZ Reps, then you’re getting a choice between:

McSally - AZ 2 (swing district, could very well go Dem in a special election) R+2
Gosar - AZ 4 - a +21R district
Biggs -= AZ 5 - a R+15 district
Schweikert - AZ 6 - R+9
Franks - AZ 8 - R+13

with special elections being so close, my money is on Gosar, incredibly safe district for the GOP and he’s a fucking nonety, so he’ll likely do whatever the fuck he’s told.

A longshot would be anyone in the state lege or he could just select Cindy McCain but that assumes that she’ll play nice, unsure about that.

Is there a special election for governor? Didn’t Brewer take over for Napalitano after she resigned to serve as DHS Sec? And I think you’re wrong about the appointment serving out the remainder of McCain’s term. The Senate election would be added to the next statewide general election - which would probably be 2018 (so Arizona would have both Senate seats on the ballot, which would be… interesting, but not unprecedented).

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:57:12pm

re: #114 Interesting Times

IF he goes I dont think it will be because he and Turnip have beef. It will be for really shady reasons and he’ll certainly be in the mix still obstructing the Russian affair, networking voter suppression efforts and awaiting his pardon from the shadows.

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Frenchy  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:57:52pm

re: #113 MsJ

From the excerpts I’ve seen (and with the context of just having read some of Maggie’s tweets in the past) I agree with you.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:59:23pm

re: #115 goddamnedfrank

Frankly My Dear 🐁 @goddamnedfrank
Did you know that Louis Pasteur invented milk? Most people don’t but it’s true. He also orbited the first cow around the moon. #TrumpHistory
12:54 AM - 20 Jul 2017
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And Pasteurization led to the cure for polio. Cleaned that disease right out. This was before all those dangerous shots they gave babies. We really need to get back to pasteurizing babies. It was good for milk! Why can we get good milk anymore? I promise as President we will bring back pasteurization and polio. It will be great.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 9:59:57pm
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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:00:22pm

re: #118 Frenchy

But to me she’s been given this master trolling opportunity in part because she and her company created it and didn’t do great work on the front end of this debacle.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:00:39pm

He’s fucking addled.

And stupid.

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:02:22pm

re: #116 KGxvi

Is there a special election for governor? Didn’t Brewer take over for Napalitano after she resigned to serve as DHS Sec? And I think you’re wrong about the appointment serving out the remainder of McCain’s term. The Senate election would be added to the next statewide general election - which would probably be 2018 (so Arizona would have both Senate seats on the ballot, which would be… interesting, but not unprecedented).

I think the rule in Arizona (like several other states)is that an appointed “replacement” Senator has to stand for reelection at the next statewide General (Nov 2018), and the winner of that race serves out the remainder of McCain’s original term (to 2022, he had been elected to his sixth (!) Senate term just last year)

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:02:28pm

Somere: #105 ObserverArt

You know, it it gets to a point where Trump is going to have to testify in a hearing about his activities in Russia it is going to be completely nuts.

He is going to ramble, lie, deceive, dodge, act stupid, forget remembering, and say a whole ton of shit that will make no sense.

He’s done and said stupid stuff in depositions and business proposals. The way he seems to be struggling mentally now those will be mild by comparison.

It will be completely sad to see this is our President. It may be enough alone to say he is no longer fit for office for anyone that still hasn’t figured that out.

But it will be ratings gold! //

That NYT interview should show anyone that he is completely unfit.

TRUMP: So, it was tremendous media. And we took a picture of everybody, the wives and the leaders, and then the leaders, and, you know, numerous pictures outside on the river. Then everybody walked in to see the opera. Then the opera ended. Then we walked into a big room where they had dinner for not only the leaders — Lagarde [Christine Lagarde, managing director of the International Monetary Fund] was there, who I think is terrific, and various others. You had the E.U. people there, people other than just the leaders, but quite a few people. I would say you have 20 times two, so you had 40, and then you probably had another 10 or 15 people, you had Christine Lagarde, you had some others also.

So, I was seated next to the wife of Prime Minister Abe [Shinzo Abe of Japan], who I think is a terrific guy, and she’s a terrific woman, but doesn’t speak English.

HABERMAN: Like, nothing, right? Like zero?

(That last line sounds like trolling to me.)

And Trump is fucking nuts. It’s a real international embarrassment.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:03:09pm

Holton did not cite any specific sources for his information that white people in South Africa are allegedly being slaughtered on a mass scale, but he continued to insist that it would happen in the United States if the Black Lives Matter movement succeeded.

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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:04:33pm

re: #116 KGxvi

b.d. pointed out that the AZ state constitution lists that the governor appoints from the same party and they finish out the term. He had the link in the last thread.

So the Senate seat is treated differently than the Congressional seat (which is what I was basing my original thought of a special election from). Now, it’s possible that due to the AZ chain of command, the sec of state takes over (I believe AZ does not have a lt gov position) but that means that there’s still a special election for some position to be filled unless the new gov gets to appoint one (I haven’t gone that far down the Rabbit Hole) but it’s been a couple of decades since Rose Mofford took over for when they booted out that racist Evan Mecham (who knew he was ahead of his time?)

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:07:17pm

re: #120 Stanley Sea

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:07:17pm
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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:09:30pm

re: #126 piratedan

Good ole Ev could primary Turnip if he were still with us.

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KGxvi  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:11:33pm

re: #126 piratedan

b.d. pointed out that the AZ state constitution lists that the governor appoints from the same party and they finish out the term. He had the link in the last thread.

So the Senate seat is treated differently than the Congressional seat (which is what I was basing my original thought of a special election from). Now, it’s possible that due to the AZ chain of command, the sec of state takes over (I believe AZ does not have a lt gov position) but that means that there’s still a special election for some position to be filled unless the new gov gets to appoint one (I haven’t gone that far down the Rabbit Hole) but it’s been a couple of decades since Rose Mofford took over for when they booted out that racist Evan Mecham (who knew he was ahead of his time?)

That AZ state constitution provision seems to violate the language of the 17th Amendment that says:

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

Also, Article VII, Section 17 of the Arizona Constitution says:

There shall be a primary and general election as prescribed by law, which
shall provide for nomination and election of a candidate for United States senator and for representative in congress when a vacancy occurs through resignation or any other cause.

Read together, that means there should be an election for the remainder of the term in 2018.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:11:49pm

Serrano has had another role this spring, one that wasn’t disclosed to viewers as he was touting Trump: His firm was a paid consultant to the president’s 2020 reelection campaign.

Federal disclosure forms filed by the Trump committee Saturday show that it paid Serrano’s firm, ProActive Communications, a total of $30,000 for “communications consulting.” The records indicate that it paid $20,000 on April 17 to the company, based in Leesburg, Va., and another $10,000 on May 30.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:16:14pm

re: #113 MsJ

I just read the entire interview (Sarah palin is a Rhodes Scholar next to trump) and I got the impression she was totally trolling him. I’ll find an example but one time it actually made me LOL.

Read some of her palace intrigue pieces written with Glenn Thrush (or even more nauseating, her article from January where she even goes into detail about what Trump ate for breakfast.) My opinion of Maggie is based on a whole slew of her stories. i.e.—one she wrote about Kushner in May that included phrases like:

adjoining offices a few penny-loafer paces from his father-in-law’s desk
spent the Sabbath in fretful seclusion
His preppy aesthetic, sotto voce style
it echoes his history of sailing forth into unknown territory

and her raving about Ivanka’s brand having such a progressive image.

and many, many more—where she also tries to work in a slam on the Clintons whenever possible.

Hey—we can’t agree on everything or life would be too boring.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:16:53pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

Maybe nothing at all apropos but Burnett and Russia did a lil business tango.

In selling “Destination Mir” to NBC, Burnett negotiated a deal that guarantees him 50 percent of the show’s advertising revenues. No one in television gets that kind of deal, not any star and not any other producer, even ultra-A-list names like John Wells of “E.R.” and “The West Wing” or David E. Kelley of “The Practice” and “Ally McBeal.” As one senior executive at a rival network says: “This is just shocking, that NBC would do this. It’s the cardinal rule. It’s TV 101. We finance the 90 percent of shows that are failures with the 10 percent that are hits. You can’t share ad revenues.”

huffingtonpost.com

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:18:57pm
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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:19:11pm

re: #130 KGxvi

for me, as an Arizonan, I dread whoever Ducey will selct, in a way I hope it’s Ms McCain because I have a glimmer of hope that she’s not Ann Coulter. As to who Ducey selects (if not himself) or Ms. McCain, I listed the Congressional options that would most likely be in play, the one that would bring me joy would be McSally, because I think we could take AZ - 2 in a special.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:19:29pm

To my great disappointment, my preacher brother has gone full frontal Trumpite. He now says the country is doing a lot better under Trump, and cites the recent fall of Mosul as an example. Never mind that the battle started while Obama was still POTUS and has dragged on interminably. He also says the Russiagate allegations are a “fantasy” and a “conspiracy theory” with no evidence. He further claimed that collusion is not a crime and tried to cut me off when I explained chapter and verse that it is. This is the same brother who was full of praise a couple of years ago when I expounded on the evidence for Russian influence in the rightwing and conspiracist media on Facebook. I think the poisonous fundy influence in Colorado Springs has finally gotten to him. At least he still thinks they’re crazy but I don’t know how long that will go on.

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freetoken  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:20:07pm

re: #133 JordanRules

NBCU has been tight with Trump for some time. (Here I will note that McMahon has been also, whose wife was appointed by Trump.) And Comcast’s own vested interests in monopolizing as much as possible comport well with having Trump in power.

But don’t expect to find Chuck Todd delving into this.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:20:24pm

re: #134 teleskiguy

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:22:00pm

re: #135 piratedan

for me, as an Arizonan, I dread whoever Ducey will selct, in a way I hope it’s Ms McCain because I have a glimmer of hope that she’s not Ann Coulter. As to who Ducey selects (if not himself) or Ms. McCain, I listed the Congressional options that would most likely be in play, the one that would bring me joy would be McSally, because I think we could take AZ in a special.

I’ll never forget Cindy wore a white pantsuit when voting on election day.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:23:11pm

Night all.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:23:14pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:24:46pm

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:24:49pm

re: #135 piratedan

for me, as an Arizonan, I dread whoever Ducey will selct, in a way I hope it’s Ms McCain because I have a glimmer of hope that she’s not Ann Coulter. As to who Ducey selects (if not himself) or Ms. McCain, I listed the Congressional options that would most likely be in play, the one that would bring me joy would be McSally, because I think we could take AZ in a special.

When you say Ms. McCain, you’re talking about Cindy, right? Not Meghan?

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:30:06pm

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

That sucks and I’m sorry.

Though I don’t have any Trumpists in my fam, I have noticed how well the fake news op by the Kremlin (and many American traitors) has penetrated in seeing a lot of bullshit based Clinton/Dem distrust expressed by engaged smart liberal POC. Bet your ass they still voted against the fascism though. But we’ve all lost a lot and it makes me so sad.

Very heartbreaking to see family ties like yours go this way.

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Kragar  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:34:40pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:36:09pm

re: #142 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:37:49pm

This gentleman makes it plain.
Soft bigotry of low expectations or what?
They should have done this before this compromised ass election. Now Maggie gets to get her troll on I guess. Ugggh.

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KGxvi  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:41:25pm

re: #143 BeachDem

When you say Ms. McCain, you’re talking about Cindy, right? Not Meghan?

I had to check whether Meghan was 30 and thus eligible. She is. But I’m not sure she meets the residency requirement. Personally, I’d prefer the seat not go to a family member if/when McCain has to resign. But if those are the least objectionable replacements, I guess I’ll deal with the nepotism

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piratedan  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:42:07pm

re: #143 BeachDem

yes, one of our newest ambassadors

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:42:17pm

Obama often knew more about the subject matter than the reporters and they’d still try some shady framing or takes that would extrapolate some emotional fuck shit about him being aloof or not giving them a good sound bite.

Same with HRC.

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freetoken  Jul 19, 2017 • 10:49:46pm

Trumpers are like creationists - they dig into their trenches when confronted with counter-evidence to their beliefs.

This is something I will keep repeating, as Trump knowingly has exploited the gullibility and close-mindedness of the religious right for his own gain. He knows that they willingly will allow themselves to be painted into a corner and will refuse to give up their position.

It’s brilliant, in that malevolent way we expect of evil leaders.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:12:07pm

re: #148 KGxvi

I had to check whether Meghan was 30 and thus eligible. She is. But I’m not sure she meets the residency requirement. Personally, I’d prefer the seat not go to a family member if/when McCain has to resign. But if those are the least objectionable replacements, I guess I’ll deal with the nepotism

I actually find Cindy less objectionable than Meghan. But it’s a pretty low bar.

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freetoken  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:26:03pm
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sagehen  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:32:52pm

re: #104 Scottish Dragon

Totally off thread here, but my American based civilization in Evony somehow manged to recruit Alexander The Great, Charles the Great, Spartacus, Attila the Hun, Cleopatra, Buffalo Bill, Oda Nobunaga and Emperor Qin Shihuang…

You also need Judah Maccabee.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:40:10pm

It’s just Jon Stewart vs Crossfire levels of brutality. One of those few times you can just watch someone get thoroughly destroyed and know they deserve every bit of it.

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fern01  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:43:14pm

re: #150 JordanRules

Obama often always knew more about the subject matter than the reporters and they’d still try some shady framing or takes that would extrapolate some emotional fuck shit about him being aloof or not giving them a good sound bite.

Just a minor correction

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majii  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:44:52pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

“Better than Abbott.”

A transgender architect took a pic beside Abbott in which he was skinning and grinning. She posted the pic on social media and mentioned she’s transgender. The posting went viral. Abbott has not responded. He called a special legislative session to push an anti-transgender restroom bill through with his alleged reasons being “religious freedom” and “fear” of some of his fellow human beings. It’s funny, but he didn’t know the female he took the pic with is transgender which is something she mentioned in her post. Abbott is as afraid of transgender persons as I am of Santa Claus. Not at all. Abbott is the type of politician who has never encountered an issue he’s unwilling to utilize to promote his political career. That he calls himself a Christian will lying, being divisive and talking about how much he “loooves” the Constitution while pissing and sh*tt*ng on it sickens me. If I could get close to him, I’d shame the hell out of him.

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majii  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:46:47pm

re: #41 Birth Control Works

“didn’t Palin move into his neighborhood (election district?”)

I’m not sure where Palin calls home these days. She had purchased a home in AZ, but it was sold a few months ago. It had been on the market for quite some time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:47:44pm

re: #158 majii

“didn’t Palin move into his neighborhood (election district?”)

I’m not sure where Palin calls home these days. She had purchased a home in AZ, but it was sold a few months ago. It had been on the market for quite some time.

still getting the rodents and vermin fumigated…

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:49:39pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:49:54pm

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

It’s just Jon Stewart vs Crossfire levels of brutality. One of those few times you can just watch someone get thoroughly destroyed and know they deserve every bit of it.

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well, if their link didn’t white itself out I might give a fuck about whatever they said.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:57:28pm

re: #156 fern01

Super fair.

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majii  Jul 19, 2017 • 11:58:43pm

re: #64 BeachDem

“Could Maggie be any more of a suckup?”

I think there might have been a bit of sarcasm directed at Trump in her comment, but he’s too narcissistic to notice it. Then again, maybe she was acting like a suckup in an effort to get him to continue to talk and say more stupid stuff. If that was the tactic, she succeeded. I’ve never heard such a jumbled up parcel of disconnected BS spewed by a POTUS. “W” wasn’t the best off-the-cuff speaker, but I could understand what he was trying to say. With Trump, I read it and start scratching my head. He should never try discussing history at any time and in any place. Dude doesn’t read anything, and it shows. His failure to read means he doesn’t know jack about history or anything else.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:03:16am

re: #163 majii

With Trump, I read it and start scratching my head. He should never try discussing history at any time and in any place. Dude doesn’t read anything, and it shows. His failure to read means he doesn’t know jack about history or anything else.

He is playing to his base, who are just as clueless as he is. And our press in generally afraid to call him out, and those who do are branded elitists.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:05:25am

re: #161

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majii  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:05:43am

re: #89 jaunte

“Extracurricular activities?”

I don’t think Trump knows the meaning of the word “extracurricular activities.” If one cannot use a word properly, it’s highly likely one doesn’t know what the word means.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:07:22am

re: #166 majii

“Extracurricular activities?”

I don’t think Trump knows the meaning of the word “extracurricular activities.” If one cannot use a word properly, it’s highly likely one doesn’t know what the word means.

Remember when Obama stated that ISIS was not an “existential threat” to the US?

A lot of people just bleeped over the word “existential” (too many syllables” and posted “OBAMA SAYS ISIS IS NOT A THREAT TO THE US!!!”

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:10:29am

No ketchup, or catsup, however that shit is spelled.

Instagram

Chicago. #NationalHotDogDay

There were no pickle spears in the fridge, so I had to make do.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:39:09am

re: #168 teleskiguy

Kinda pissed I missed this day of celebration. Glad you got to partake! Yum!

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:42:06am

Everything I wanted to say is in this thread.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:43:59am

@freetoken

Pain rides the irony wave to your great observations vis a vis creationists and Trumpists.

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piratedan  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:48:13am

re: #171 JordanRules

I blame Debby Harry…

Blondie - Rapture

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:52:15am

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Welp. Sounds like a fighting, big picture Democrat with humanity at his core to me.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:55:31am

re: #172 piratedan

Song lyrics auto trigger!
“Fab Five Freddie told me everybody’s high…”

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Kragar  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:56:58am
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piratedan  Jul 20, 2017 • 1:06:23am

re: #175 Kragar

upding for the 5th element reference

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 20, 2017 • 1:24:06am

Must be Twilight Zonish to step out your door in London and see this on the street, 1959 Cadillac Coupe Deville. They’re rare enough even here in the States.

Facebook Post

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 20, 2017 • 2:58:19am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember when Obama stated that ISIS was not an “existential threat” to the US?

A lot of people just bleeped over the word “existential” (too many syllables” and posted “OBAMA SAYS ISIS IS NOT A THREAT TO THE US!!!”

Yes — the Trumpers love their leader because he sounds as ignorant as they are, and he knows it. I supported John Glenn for President in 1984, and at that time he was less than articulate in explaining his positions, but you could piece together the point he was making; he actually understood issues. This sociopath doesn’t know and doesn’t care; and neither do his supporters. His supporters would treat any question that showed his lack of knowledge as a gotcha question.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 20, 2017 • 4:01:20am

re: #176 piratedan

upding for the 5th element reference

Tom Servo: “the fifth element… isn’t that a movie about boron?”
Crow T. Robot: “I dunno… I only follow that table PERIODICALLY!”

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Myron Falwell  Jul 20, 2017 • 4:40:09am

If this can be verified, talk about the cruelest twist of fate. My God.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2017 • 4:42:49am

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

To my great disappointment, my preacher brother has gone full frontal Trumpite. He now says the country is doing a lot better under Trump, and cites the recent fall of Mosul as an example. Never mind that the battle started while Obama was still POTUS and has dragged on interminably. He also says the Russiagate allegations are a “fantasy” and a “conspiracy theory” with no evidence. He further claimed that collusion is not a crime and tried to cut me off when I explained chapter and verse that it is. This is the same brother who was full of praise a couple of years ago when I expounded on the evidence for Russian influence in the rightwing and conspiracist media on Facebook. I think the poisonous fundy influence in Colorado Springs has finally gotten to him. At least he still thinks they’re crazy but I don’t know how long that will go on.

You aren’t alone. I’m in the same boat…

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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2017 • 5:22:44am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 20, 2017 • 5:30:36am

I love Samantha Bee

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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2017 • 5:34:06am
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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 20, 2017 • 5:34:07am

re: #134 teleskiguy

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[trump] I’m a HUGGE supporter in the right to bear arms [/trump]

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dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 5:40:43am

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Everything I wanted to say is in this thread.

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moreover to all that - he was able to get diagnosed

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2017 • 5:46:34am

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dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 5:46:36am

re: #185 b.d.

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Next time reporters get a sit down with Trump they should just ask him to define basic terms
[trump] I’m a HUGGE supporter in the right to bear arms [/trump]

there are hundreds of mostly even softball questions they could ask or follow up with that would pin him down to specifics and without being mean or nasty.

it would uncover the ignominy in minutes

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 5:49:25am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 5:52:54am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 5:54:52am

re: #185 b.d.

[trump] I’m a HUGGE supporter in the right to bear arms [/trump]

“2 Articles is the whole ballgame, folks”

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darthstar  Jul 20, 2017 • 5:57:38am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 5:57:45am

A bit more on that excerpt above
Also toward the back end of a thread

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:04:05am

re: #17 jaunte

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That’s a lot of correspondence.

Jill Stein, huh?

Let’s hope she faces charges somewhere down the line.

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dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:04:54am

note the instantaneous pivot away from health care to “trade”

HABERMAN: “Am I wrong in thinking — I’ve talked to you a bunch of times about this over the last couple years, but you are generally of the view that people should have health care, right? I mean, I think that you come at it from the view of …”

TRUMP: “Yes, yes. [garbled]”…

TRUMP: “It’s been a long time. Nothing changes. Wait till you see what we’re going to do on trade.”

HABERMAN: “Sounds like it’s going to be very interesting.”

TRUMP: “Much more interesting than anybody would understand.”

and how can something be more interesting than anybody would understand?
and why am i even asking this?

the official language of ignominius the first (and his press staff) is gibberish

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John Carter  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:06:51am

re: #33 teleskiguy

From what I read in the article, even neighbors are stunned. Looks like dude just snapped. Probably shouldn’t have been a firearm owner in the first place.

I have been seeing a lot of random acts of rage in Florida lately - from a certain demographic. I don’t know how to explain it. Almost like they are letting their entitled.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:07:08am

re: #180 Myron Falwell

If this can be verified, talk about the cruelest twist of fate. My God.

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I wish she had simply printed out the letter because that would be an awful claim to make if it’s not true.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:07:11am

re: #196 dangerman

the official language of ignominius the first (and his press staff) is gibberish

I’ve always liked this one:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:08:21am

re: #199 Dr Lizardo

I’ve always liked this one:

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Dumbassicus Maximus

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:09:28am

Orangius Douchius the Great.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:09:44am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the hazy, hot, and humid NYC metro area.

The weather here is typical summer, but it’s anything but typical in DC these days.

A sampling:

Yeah, the GOP refuses to do its job in oversight against a fellow GOPer who’s in the WH and running roughshod over the law on a daily basis all while undermining US national security daily. The GOP has so far refused to take action against one of their own in Congress, despite all the evidence showing collusion between Russians and Rep. Dana Rohrabacher. They’ve known that Trump and Rohrabacher were both up to their eyeballs in Russia shenanigans, and instead joke about it instead of launching investigations and doing their jobs.

The GOP sees their jobs as enabling Trump, obstructing investigations, and undermining the civil and voting rights of Americans all while plotting to deprive tens of millions of health coverage.

No good can come from any of this, but it has been a clarifying moment. The GOP can no longer claim to be the party of national security or strong on defense, when Trump’s giving away the farm and put US foreign policy on a trajectory to aid and abet Russia while undermining our allies and our own strategic interests around the world.

And for what? So Trump can make sure that he gets out of debt from Russians who have leveraged him to the hilt and know he’s easily compromised? The GOP easily flipped to support Trump, and you have to look no further than the RNC platform that was rewritten to be more pro-Russian, despite the fact that the GOP has historically been wary of what Russia does.

So what now? McCain’s brain cancer is a new wrinkle in the health care debate, but the reality is that McCain had no problems with any of the health care plans that would eliminate health coverage of tens of millions of Americans, including many in Arizona. It’s just ironic that brain cancer might help stop Trumpcare in its tracks (for at least a brief moment).

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:15:46am
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Targetpractice  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:17:34am

re: #203 FormerDirtDart

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But a few of them have been introduced, even if they’re one page summaries, so the media will give him partial credit.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:18:35am

re: #202 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the hazy, hot, and humid NYC metro area.

The weather here is typical summer, but it’s anything but typical in DC these days.

A sampling:

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Yeah, the GOP refuses to do its job in oversight against a fellow GOPer who’s in the WH and running roughshod over the law on a daily basis all while undermining US national security daily. The GOP has so far refused to take action against one of their own in Congress, despite all the evidence showing collusion between Russians and Rep. Dana Rohrabacher. They’ve known that Trump and Rohrabacher were both up to their eyeballs in Russia shenanigans, and instead joke about it instead of launching investigations and doing their jobs.

The GOP sees their jobs as enabling Trump, obstructing investigations, and undermining the civil and voting rights of Americans all while plotting to deprive tens of millions of health coverage.

No good can come from any of this, but it has been a clarifying moment. The GOP can no longer claim to be the party of national security or strong on defense, when Trump’s giving away the farm and put US foreign policy on a trajectory to aid and abet Russia while undermining our allies and our own strategic interests around the world.

And for what? So Trump can make sure that he gets out of debt from Russians who have leveraged him to the hilt and know he’s easily compromised? The GOP easily flipped to support Trump, and you have to look no further than the RNC platform that was rewritten to be more pro-Russian, despite the fact that the GOP has historically been wary of what Russia does.

So what now? McCain’s brain cancer is a new wrinkle in the health care debate, but the reality is that McCain had no problems with any of the health care plans that would eliminate health coverage of tens of millions of Americans, including many in Arizona. It’s just ironic that brain cancer might help stop Trumpcare in its tracks (for at least a brief moment).

Pathetic.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:19:04am

He was also going to do urban renewal too.

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darthstar  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:19:18am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:19:20am
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:21:44am

re: #16 freetoken

Time travel anomaly.

Females can’t drive a TARDIS properly.

//

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:22:43am

re: #207 darthstar

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:23:02am

re: #187 The Vicious Babushka

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steve_davis  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:28:32am

re: #89 jaunte

Extracurricular activities?

Made the mistake of having a Russian pee party. Everyone was warm at first. Then hypothermia set in.

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darthstar  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:28:39am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:32:27am

re: #210 Dr Lizardo

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I actually think those four may have been more tact.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:37:05am

re: #68 retired cynic

Yeah, she is, but she’s getting him on record with some of the creepiest crap!

Frankly, Haberman is playing to Trump’s weaknesses. By being deferential and seemingly sympathetic, she’s allowing him to ramble incessantly about his favorite topics. If she were more combative, he’s go all “fake news” on her and clam up, or get nasty and lose his temper.

Psychologists will have a field day reading this interview.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:40:57am

re: #203 FormerDirtDart

And this is one thing we can be thankful for, so far.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:41:12am

re: #203 FormerDirtDart

6 months (182 days) in, Trump hasn’t passed a single bill of 10 he promised to pass in his first 100 days. (Republicans control everything).

The dog-finally-catching-the-car analogy is interesting, but basically, they are continuing to chase the car even though it has stopped for them…

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jeffreyw  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:43:26am

Imgur


Good morning!

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I cannot.  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:43:45am

re: #209 Eventual Carrion

Tell Clara that, or worse, River…

…better idea, don’t.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:43:51am

re: #82 jaunte

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Karl Pilkington in An Idiot Abroad. imdb.com

The Brits always get to these ideas first.

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darthstar  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:44:41am

Sorry to hear McCain has brain cancer. Cancer sucks and nobody deserves to go through that shit.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:48:50am

re: #220 wheat-dogg

Karl Pilkington in An Idiot Abroad. imdb.com

The Brits always get to these ideas first.

I loved that show. Gervais put poor Karl through 50 flavors of hell.

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darthstar  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:49:19am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:50:57am
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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:51:32am

re: #209 Eventual Carrion

Females can’t drive a TARDIS properly.

//

Except that River Song proved that the Doctor didn’t know how to drive the TARDIS properly; he kept the brake engaged.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:52:27am

re: #223 darthstar

Resign? When he has a chance to go full throttle on asset forfeiture? Asset forfeiture is his dream, a throwback to Jim Crow.

half sarc/

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I cannot.  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:52:40am

re: #225 lawhawk

He knew how, he just liked the sound it made.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:52:48am
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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:54:50am

I had to do a little therapy this morning due to the frustration brought on by the mess in DC. So what better way than to fire off another email/contact to my good buddy Ohio Senator Rob Portman. If Trump can work him over, I can too. Got to keep some balance in all this.

This time I had to load the email up with some current event snark. I have kept it light, but pointed.

Check it out if you like. Skip it if you want. I encourage all of you to do similar

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:57:31am

re: #209 Eventual Carrion

Females can’t drive a TARDIS properly.

//

Neither can the men.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:58:32am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The dog-finally-catching-the-car analogy is interesting, but basically, they are continuing to chase the car even though it has stopped for them…

Yep, they keep hitting their heads on it.

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nines09  Jul 20, 2017 • 6:58:57am

Spoof account…..or is it? //

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:01:32am

re: #232 nines09

Spoof account…..or is it? //

has to be

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nines09  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:04:15am

re: #233 Sir John Barron

Yes. It is. The humor is I can see him saying that and so can the poster.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:05:32am

re: #229 ObserverArt

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:07:55am

re: #228 lawhawk

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Trump’s proven he doesn’t have a clue on how to play…

Let’s See Mr. Art Of The Deal do some Monty Halling with this…
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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:08:19am

re: #234 nines09

Yes. It is. The humor is I can see him saying that and so can the poster.

Send it to Fox News. That should keep Fox and Friends busy for a few days, lamenting the decline of great U.S. cities like Toronto or to whine about Canadian political correctness, etc.

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nines09  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:12:47am

re: #237 Sir John Barron

They don’t need any help. They have an agenda and willing mouthpieces to push it. Here’s a sample.

“You know, when you look back at history, as an observer, you will say, oh, LOOK AT THAT PILE OF SHIT…WTF…….JFC……….WTF….”

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:13:22am

re: #236 Joe Bacon 🌹

Trump’s proven he doesn’t have a clue on how to play…

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Trump would get one or two rounds where he makes an advance. Then everyone would figure out he doesn’t understand the rules, and how much his ego needs to be stroked, and would start telling him things that would get him in trouble. Then he’d ask why no one was playing checkers.

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darthstar  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:14:05am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:16:25am

re: #240 darthstar

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Their viewers don’t know that pesky fact. And someone should remind Fox that even though Trump won, he’s the one using taxpayer money to “prove” he won the popular vote too but that’s somehow not an outrage at all to the single digit IQ idiots at Fucks and Friends.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:16:27am

63 million people voted for the insanity we have inhabiting the WH.

1/8 of that number means… (yeah, I know, no one said there’d be math here) = 7,875,000.

That would mean Hillary wins in a goddamned landslide. Of course, hindsight is 20/20, but even those who voted for Trump knew what they were getting.

They knew and didn’t care.

They knew and didn’t care until they began to wake up to the fact that Trump lies about everything and was going to enable the GOP to gut their health coverage.

They knew and didn’t care until they began to realize all the stories about Trump being compromised by Russia were accurate and that Trump was consistently hiding the true scope and nature of his Russia connections.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:16:32am

Great clip of “Hardest Walk” from Some Kind of Wonderful (1987), with assorted pics from the movie/promos.

Some Kind of Wonderful - Hardest Walk

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:21:03am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:22:29am

re: #244 FormerDirtDart

“This guy, Armstrong, walked on the moon. American. Not many people know that.”

/

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:23:26am
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Targetpractice  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:27:17am

re: #240 darthstar

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The chutzpah of Republicans complaining about investigations after the heads of committees and prominent members of their party basically promised endless investigations into a Clinton presidency starting from Day 1 is just off the fuckin’ chart.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:27:41am

re: #242 lawhawk

1/8 doesn’t seem like a lot. Yeah, translates to a not insignificant number of voters. But probably could find a similar ratio for Hillary voters, etc.

I wonder what it will take for that ratio to increase?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:28:16am

re: #247 Targetpractice

The chutzpah of Republicans complaining about investigations after the heads of committees and prominent members of their party basically promised endless investigations into a Clinton presidency starting from Day 1 is just off the fuckin’ chart.

chutzpah is all they’ve got.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:28:27am

re: #198 Patricia Kayden

I wish she had simply printed out the letter because that would be an awful claim to make if it’s not true.

That’s why I emphasized if this is true.

There’s enough documented stuff to detail how much of a disappointment he’s been while in office.

I definitely can see Cruz sending off a missive like that to the family of a cancer patient, though. Without a doubt.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:29:29am

re: #247 Targetpractice

The chutzpah of Republicans complaining about investigations after the heads of committees and prominent members of their party basically promised endless investigations into a Clinton presidency starting from Day 1 is just off the fuckin’ chart.

The search for the birf certifikat goes on to this day.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:29:54am

A well-deserved LOL

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:31:03am

re: #252 Myron Falwell

A well-deserved LOL

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What’s the deal with Ms. Mensch? She seems……..neurotic.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:31:04am

re: #242 lawhawk

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63 million people voted for the insanity we have inhabiting the WH.

1/8 of that number means… (yeah, I know, no one said there’d be math here) = 7,875,000.

That would mean Hillary wins in a goddamned landslide. Of course, hindsight is 20/20, but even those who voted for Trump knew what they were getting.

They knew and didn’t care.

They knew and didn’t care until they began to wake up to the fact that Trump lies about everything and was going to enable the GOP to gut their health coverage.

They knew and didn’t care until they began to realize all the stories about Trump being compromised by Russia were accurate and that Trump was consistently hiding the true scope and nature of his Russia connections.

Yep. They didn’t care about the bigotry, the sexism, the encouraging violence, etc. I don’t feel bad for those who are finding out the hard way that Trump is a con man. We tried warning them and they dismissed us.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:33:00am
Perhaps he didn’t have staffers telling him that 70 percent of black women voted in 2012,

I did not know that

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:33:19am

re: #242 lawhawk

63 million people voted for the insanity we have inhabiting the WH.

1/8 of that number means… (yeah, I know, no one said there’d be math here) = 7,875,000.

That would mean Hillary wins in a goddamned landslide. Of course, hindsight is 20/20, but even those who voted for Trump knew what they were getting.

They knew and didn’t care.

They knew and didn’t care until they began to wake up to the fact that Trump lies about everything and was going to enable the GOP to gut their health coverage.

They knew and didn’t care until they began to realize all the stories about Trump being compromised by Russia were accurate and that Trump was consistently hiding the true scope and nature of his Russia connections.

Sometimes, you have to vote against someone, and sometimes that means voting for someone you wouldn’t otherwise want to. I completely supported Clinton (I still have my bumper sticker on my car in John Ratcliffe’s district), but others should have known as well.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:36:03am

The Stock Market has been in Bull Status since the election.

That is all that matters, it seems.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:36:23am

re: #253 Dr Lizardo

She’s not on the level. Her agenda is anything but clear, and she’s dealing in misinformation and misdirection all while occasionally finding something of value.

In other words, she’s a distraction.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:36:27am

re: #255 Birth Control Works

I did not know that

You are not going to win the Democratic nomination if you don’t win black women. You are not going to win the general election as a Democrat if you do not get black women to the polls.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:37:29am
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Targetpractice  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:38:34am

re: #260 FormerDirtDart

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Buyers remorse has set in, but I bet that 1 in 8 will still pull the “R” lever for the next two elections.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:38:48am

re: #260 FormerDirtDart

One in eight people who voted for Trump having second thoughts

A long time ago, they had one thought. They’re finally having their second one.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:40:06am
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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:41:28am

Pentagon study declares American empire is ‘collapsing’

No shit sherlock, I think we knew that.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:42:37am

re: #263 lawhawk

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Boom & good morning!

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:42:53am

Trump’s statement about Sessions was made to get Sessions to resign, so he can appoint someone who will fire Mueller.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:42:58am

re: #255 Birth Control Works

I did not know that

Where the white women at?

Where The White Women At? - Blazing Saddles

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:43:29am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:45:04am

re: #268 Stanley Sea

Fox News viewers are tired of all this Russia FAke News.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:45:39am

The liar Pence is busy on twitter again:

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:45:54am

re: #267 Decatur Deb

Where the white women at?

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Standing behind their men.

White women are raised to be children
Black women are raised to be adults.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:46:25am

re: #230 Belafon

Neither can the men.

So — now that the Doctor is a woman, will her driving improve?

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Lidane  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:46:26am

This is an epic level of petty and I’m here for it:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:46:52am

re: #270 lawhawk

The liar Pence is busy on twitter again:

During the campaign, the jobs numbers were all “fake”, not the “real unreported” numbers which were higher, so I hope Pence will also report the real unreported numbers like they did in the campaign.

/

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:47:32am

re: #271 Birth Control Works

Standing behind their men.

White women are raised to be children
Black women are raised to be adults.

Gonna let you handle the bounce-back on that one.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:48:51am
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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:50:22am

re: #275 Decatur Deb

Gonna let you handle the bounce-back on that one.

It’s true. In this country, black women (historically) have not been raised to depend on a man.

There is a heirarchy of success (or something)

White Men
Black Women
Black Men
White Women

That Pedestal we are on is just where the gilded cage sets.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:51:16am

re: #242 lawhawk

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63 million people voted for the insanity we have inhabiting the WH.

1/8 of that number means… (yeah, I know, no one said there’d be math here) = 7,875,000.

That would mean Hillary wins in a goddamned landslide. Of course, hindsight is 20/20, but even those who voted for Trump knew what they were getting.

They knew and didn’t care.

They knew and didn’t care until they began to wake up to the fact that Trump lies about everything and was going to enable the GOP to gut their health coverage.

They knew and didn’t care until they began to realize all the stories about Trump being compromised by Russia were accurate and that Trump was consistently hiding the true scope and nature of his Russia connections.

It’s not the number of votes — it’s where the votes are. She could have won by 20 million votes and it wouldn’t matter if the votes were in the states she won. Think about that. Someone could theoretically get 70%+ of the vote but lose courtesy of the electoral college.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:51:39am

re: #273 Lidane

This is an epic level of petty and I’m here for it:

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Merkel trolled him hard by sitting Melania next to Putin.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:51:58am

re: #278 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s not the number of votes — it’s where the votes are. She could have won by 20 million votes and it wouldn’t matter if the votes were in the states she won. Think about that. Someone could theoretically get 70%+ of the vote but lose courtesy of the electoral college.

That gerrymander bird thing — it won the election for trump.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:52:37am

Oh. It’s one of THOSE days. I must have missed something in the news. Or is this about Trump and Mueller?

Pushy Advert /autoplay video crazy site so no link.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:53:22am

re: #272 Hecuba’s daughter

So — now that the Doctor is a woman, will her driving improve?

I seriously doubt the TARDIS cares about the Doctor’s gender. It was generally the TARDIS that drove.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:54:08am

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Lidane  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:54:40am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:55:13am

re: #281 Unshaken Defiance

Oh. It’s one of THOSE days. I must have missed something in the news. Or is this about Trump and Mueller?

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Pushy Advert /autoplay video crazy site so no link.

I noticed a sharp downward jag on the DJIA around the time that Mueller story hit the wires. It seems to have recovered since.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:56:20am

re: #282 Belafon

I seriously doubt the TARDIS cares about the Doctor’s gender. It was generally the TARDIS that drove.

Of course, the TARDIS is female

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:57:45am

re: #280 Birth Control Works

That gerrymander bird thing — it won the election for trump.

Too bad it requires a change to the Constitution.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:57:51am

re: #284 Lidane

Somebody wake Jill Stein up from her mid-presidential election campaign season coma.

/

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:58:32am

re: #284 Lidane

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Trump Jr had talks with Stein? How very interesting.

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I cannot.  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:59:20am

re: #282 Belafon

Doctor: You didn’t always take me where I wanted to go!
TARDIS: But I always took you where you needed to be.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:59:22am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

Trump Jr had talks with Stein? How very interesting.

Just exchanging elephant recipes.

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CongoJack  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:59:38am

re: #284 Lidane

re: #288 Sir John Barron

Makes me giddy. I’ve been telling the Steinbots in my office my theory that she may have had a hand in the overarching Russian plot. Please dog let me be correct. I would love to rub their holier than thou noses in it.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 7:59:43am

re: #278 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s not the number of votes — it’s where the votes are. She could have won by 20 million votes and it wouldn’t matter if the votes were in the states she won. Think about that. Someone could theoretically get 70%+ of the vote but lose courtesy of the electoral college.

1/8 = 12.5%
A 1.25% change in the vote (1/10 of 1 in 8) would have seen Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida swing to Clinton.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:01:02am

re: #292 CongoJack

Makes me giddy. I’ve been telling the Steinbots in my office my theory that she may have had a hand in the overarching Russian plot. Please dog let me be correct. I would love to rub their holier than thou noses in it.

It honestly wouldn’t shock me. It is quite curious that she spent much more time attacking Clinton than Trump.

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steve_davis  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:01:50am

re: #154 sagehen

You also need Judah Maccabee.

I refuse to give Evony money, so my heroes are Potsy and Danny Bonaduce.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:01:54am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

Trump Jr had talks with Stein? How very interesting.

He may not have, but just the fact that she’s on their list is pretty significant.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:03:26am

re: #296 makeitstop

He may not have, but just the fact that she’s on their list is pretty significant.

Yes, I think so too.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:05:58am

re: #292 CongoJack

Makes me giddy. I’ve been telling the Steinbots in my office my theory that she may have had a hand in the overarching Russian plot. Please dog let me be correct. I would love to rub their holier than thou noses in it.

“Yeah but Hillary wouldn’t support SINGLE PAYER which as everyone knows is NOW the only non-negotiable item for the True Left.”

/

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:06:05am

re: #297 HappyWarrior

Yes, I think so too.

Perhaps she was trying to arrange the adoption of a Russian oligarch.

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allegro  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:06:24am

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Everything I wanted to say is in this thread.

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THIS. So many times THIS. I haven’t commented on McCain up to now because all I can feel for him is anger. This thread states so beautifully my feelings.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:07:32am

re: #281 Unshaken Defiance

Oh. It’s one of THOSE days. I must have missed something in the news. Or is this about Trump and Mueller?

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Pushy Advert /autoplay video crazy site so no link.

Gold went down something like $300 right after the election. It’s been fluctuating under $1300 every since.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:08:27am

re: #286 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, the TARDIS is female

Ships, planes and cars are always female.

Way to Freudian for me.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:09:34am

re: #299 Decatur Deb

Perhaps she was trying to arrange the adoption of a Russian oligarch.

Ha!

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:10:15am

re: #302 Birth Control Works

Ships, planes and cars are always female.

Way to Freudian for me.

How come nobody ever talks about the father ship, it’s always the mother ship?

I think the Death Star was a dude though.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:10:19am

re: #300 allegro

THIS. So many times THIS. I haven’t commented on McCain up to now because all I can feel for him is anger. This thread states so beautifully my feelings.

Yes, if we can’t see those we dislike as humans —especially at a time when they are suffering, it reflects on us, not them.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:11:05am

re: #304 b.d.

How come nobody ever talks about the father ship, it’s always the mother ship?

I think the Death Star was a dude though.

Don’t be so sure.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:11:22am

re: #302 Birth Control Works

Ships, planes and cars are always female.

Way to Freudian for me.

Men are always eager to get on board, even when they don’t know where they’re going.

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steve_davis  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:11:53am

re: #300 allegro

THIS. So many times THIS. I haven’t commented on McCain up to now because all I can feel for him is anger. This thread states so beautifully my feelings.

remember how we were all watching the Comey hearing going “wow. is he having a stroke, or is it a brain tumor?” I think we really have to believe the tumor was already messing with him, because he got completely lost in the argument he was making.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:13:35am
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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:13:54am

re: #307 Decatur Deb

Men are always eager to get on board, even when they don’t know where they’re going.

THe illusion of control… .

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:14:13am

re: #293 FormerDirtDart

1/8 = 12.5%
A 1.25% change in the vote (1/10 of 1 in 8) would have seen Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida swing to Clinton.

Does it identify where the 1 of 8 live? For example, if all those who regret their vote live in Illinois, California, and New York, it wouldn’t have made a difference in the outcome. If the regret is spread evenly across all states, yes — it would change the results if they could go back in time and change their vote.

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Weaselone  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:14:29am

re: #270 lawhawk

The liar Pence is busy on twitter again:

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Ooooh. A moron responded to your post with my favorite image of a collection of multiple FRED graphs. The one that has massively variant time scales, value scales, end dates that don’t include most if any of the last five years and doesn’t even include numbers relative to the discussion at hand.

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bratwurst  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:15:06am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:17:33am

re: #313 bratwurst

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:18:14am

re: #302 Birth Control Works

Ships, planes and cars are always female.

Way to Freudian for me.

In the episode the Doctor’s Wife, the Tardis was female. Of course — one could argue that was because she was the only person available to host the Tardis.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:18:37am

re: #278 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s true, but nearly 8 million votes means that quite a few people in states that went for Trump, including in razor thin margin states like FL, PA, WI, MI, would have switched votes. Vote flipping isn’t going to be constrained to states where Clinton already won handily.

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austin_blue  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:20:14am

Damn. Woke up and read the news about John McCain. Say what you will about the man, but he has led a hell of a life. Offered an early release by the North Vietnamese because his dad was CINCPAC, he refused unless all POWs were released with him. They were not pleased and routinely tied his hands behind his back, ran a rope between them, and hung him from a meat hook, dislocating both shoulders, and left him there. For hours.

The man has balls like grapefruits. A true American hero.

The revelation that he has a glioblastoma is pretty much an early death sentence. It’s the same brain cancer that killed Ted Kennedy. It’s a harsh thing to discover that you have less than eighteen months to live, tops. My condolences to his family and his multitude of friends.

You will find no snark about my “concern” for his condition, and I have scorn for anyone who would lower themselves to be that petty. He’s going to Arlington with the caisson, the “lost man” three-jet flyover, and a twenty-one gun salute.

God speed, and God bless you, John S, McCain, III.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:20:17am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

Unregulated Capitalism. //

FTFY

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:21:02am

re: #318 Birth Control Works

FTFY

True.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:21:32am

re: #317 austin_blue

Damn. Woke up and read the news about John McCain. Say what you will about the man, but he has led a hell of a life. Offered an early release by the North Vietnamese because his dad CINCPAC, he refused unless all POWs were released with him. They were not pleased and routinely tied his hands behind his back, ran a rope between them, and hung him from a meat hook, dislocating both shoulders, and left him there. For hours.

The man has balls like grapefruits. A true American hero.

The revelation that he has a glioblastoma is pretty much an early death sentence. It’s the same brain cancer that killed Ted Kennedy. It’s a harsh thing to discover that you have less than eighteen months to live, tops. My condolences to his family and his multitude of friends.

You will find no snark about my “concern” for his condition, and I have scorn for anyone who would lower themselves to be that petty. He’s going to Arlington with the caisson, the “lost man” three-jet flyover, and a twenty-one gun salute.

God speed, and God bless you, John S, McCain, III.

Yes, a life of service.

I have to credit anyone who gets up, suits up and shows up every day.

Even when I hated Dick Durbin, I gave him credit for his hard work.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:23:57am

re: #312 Weaselone

I terminated that guy with extreme prejudice, mostly because of the reasons you cite, but also because nothing Trump has done has changed any of the trend lines - Trump’s economy policy hasn’t affected anything he’s claiming as proof of bad economy while ignoring longer term trends that are outside the power of the presidency.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:24:03am

re: #316 lawhawk

That’s true, but nearly 8 million votes means that quite a few people in states that went for Trump, including in razor thin margin states like FL, PA, WI, MI, would have switched votes. Vote flipping isn’t going to be constrained to states where Clinton already won handily.

Probably true; but I’m just arguing that you have to be careful about the statistics. Regret isn’t spread uniformly across the population. As Mark Twain said, “There are three kinds of lies: Lies, damned lies, and statistics”

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:24:22am

Think he will be fired?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:25:50am

re: #166 majii

“Extracurricular activities?”

I don’t think Trump knows the meaning of the word “extracurricular activities.” If one cannot use a word properly, it’s highly likely one doesn’t know what the word means.

Just meant Bone-apart was playing volleyball for the varsity team that night.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:29:07am

JEFF SESSIONS BRINGS BACK SUSPENDED ASSET FORFEITURE PROGRAM
The asset forfeiture program allows police departments to seize the property of criminal suspects.

greedy little #$%^

ALMOST ALL OF THE PLASTIC PRODUCED SINCE 1950 IS STILL SITTING IN LANDFILLS

Makes for good drainage, I guess.

WHAT ROBERT MUELLER LEARNED INVESTIGATING ENRON

The Enron team was patient and learned from its investigative and trial mistakes. After its yearslong run, it set a high-water mark for complex, high-profile financial inquiries, successfully indicting and imprisoning almost all of the company’s top executives.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:29:18am

re: #322 Hecuba’s daughter

Probably true; but I’m just arguing that you have to be careful about the statistics. Regret isn’t spread uniformly across the population. As Mark Twain said, “There are three kinds of lies: Lies, damned lies, and statistics”

I suspect the four people that voted for Trump in CA aren’t going to change their votes. Yeah, a slight exaggeration, but the point is that those who probably think their vote could change the outcome of the election are going to be more likely to do it than those who need to remain more ideologically pure than those around them.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:29:29am

Check this quote. Trump thinks he can boss Congress around, but nobody is afraid of him. Nobody.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:31:00am
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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:31:35am

re: #325 Birth Control Works

JEFF SESSIONS BRINGS BACK SUSPENDED ASSET FORFEITURE PROGRAM
The asset forfeiture program allows police departments to seize the property of criminal suspects.

greedy little #$%^

ALMOST ALL OF THE PLASTIC PRODUCED SINCE 1950 IS STILL SITTING IN LANDFILLS

Makes for good drainage, I guess.

WHAT ROBERT MUELLER LEARNED INVESTIGATING ENRON

I’ve thought about building big robots that go through landfills, digging and sorting the material by type.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:32:15am

Chile Poised to Legalize Abortion in Limited Circumstances

The current policy: Just say no. Chile is one of just a few countries around the world where abortion is illegal in every case. But yesterday, after 17 hours of debate, the country’s senate passed legislation that would allow women to terminate pregnancies in cases of rape, deadly birth defects or danger to the mother’s life. The lower legislative chamber is expected to vote on the measure today. If it passes, it’ll go to President Michelle Bachelet, Chile’s first female leader and a trained pediatrician, for her signature.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:33:59am

Wow. This tweet pretty much confirms what I thought Preet Bharara was doing - and why Trump fired him.

(Fortunately, Preet had enough of a heads up that he was being fired to send his case notes to Comey - who undoubtedly forwarded them to Mueller.)

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:36:06am

re: #331 makeitstop

Wow. This tweet pretty much confirms what I thought Preet Bharara was doing - and why Trump fired him.

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(Fortunately, Preet had enough of a heads up that he was being fired to send his case notes to Comey - who undoubtedly forwarded them to Mueller.)

Selling the house in PB for an exorbitant profit to the Russian guy is such a huge red flag.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:37:41am
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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:37:46am

re: #332 Stanley Sea

Selling the house in PB for an exorbitant profit to the Russian guy is such a huge red flag.

Trump Soho as well.

Dirty, dirty money everywhere.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:39:05am

re: #334 makeitstop

Trump Soho as well.

Dirty, dirty money everywhere.

But Trump thinks his personal finances are supposed to be off limits to any investigation.

I always wondered what would happen if someday America would have a president who knew absolutely nothing and expected the laws and institutions to conform to him.

/

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:39:11am

When BCCI fell, it left a void for those willing to launder dark money.

I think we are learning who filled that void.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:40:55am

re: #112 Joe Bacon 🌹

Did they catch him in the act of singing this?

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littlegreenfootballs.com

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I cannot.  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:40:58am

re: #336 Birth Control Works

When BCCI fell, it left a void for those willing to launder dark money.

I think we are learning who filled that void.

Ah, BCCI…that’s been a LONG time

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:41:38am

Just for fun, back to the headline topic

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Birth Control Works  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:43:40am

bbl

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:43:50am

re: #339 Unshaken Defiance

Just for fun, back to the headline topic

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LOL yeah, things didn’t usually end so well for those who fell under Lt. Columbo’s suspicions.

I have the entire series of Columbo - I let one of my students borrow it (she had some downtime recuperating from an injury) and she loved it.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:47:21am

re: #261 Targetpractice

Buyers remorse has set in, but I bet that 1 in 8 will still pull the “R” lever for the next two elections.

You really can’t help yourself can you?

: )

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dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:49:41am

re: #341 Dr Lizardo

LOL yeah, things didn’t usually end so well for those who fell under Lt. Columbo’s suspicions.

I have the entire series of Columbo - I let one of my students borrow it (she had some downtime recuperating from an injury) and she loved it.

a great show
you always knew who did it
he (almost) always knew (at least strongly suspected) who did it right away
it was a matter of lining up the inescapable proof

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lizardofid  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:54:12am

re: #341 Dr Lizardo

LOL yeah, things didn’t usually end so well for those who fell under Lt. Columbo’s suspicions.

I have the entire series of Columbo - I let one of my students borrow it (she had some downtime recuperating from an injury) and she loved it.

Yes. I still watch the old series from time to time on a local station. I thought Peter Falk was great in that role. Oddly though, in the very late episodes, that were sort of like specials, I felt it came across almost like a spoof or caricature of his former self. Never quite sure if it was intentional, or not.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:55:11am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

Trump Jr had talks with Stein? How very interesting.

Interesting, but in the light of all the tricks Russia was playing, not surprising.

I think the pace of all this appears to be picking up. August is gonna be hot, hot, hot.

In all that heat someone is gonna pop and start yakking. I happen to think it will be Manafort. Something tells me he can’t be trusted and always protects his own ass.

Flynn will be more difficult, but he will be useful making the connections. That might be where the Stein things is coming from…they were at Putin’s dinner together.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:56:19am

re: #343 dangerman

a great show
you always knew who did it
he (almost) always knew (at least strongly suspected) who did it right away
it was a matter of lining up the inescapable proof

That’s what struck my student - it was unusual in that we see the crime happen, we see who did it, yet we get to follow along with Lt. Columbo as he solves the crime. Nice touch.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 8:57:17am

re: #345 ObserverArt

Interesting, but in the light of all the tricks Russia was playing, not surprising.

I think the pace of all this appears to be picking up. August is gonna be hot, hot, hot.

In all that heat someone is gonna pop and start yakking. I happen to think it will be Manafort. Something tells me he can’t be trusted and always protects his own ass.

Flynn will be more difficult, but he will be useful making the connections. That might be where the Stein things is coming from…they were at Putin’s dinner together.

Manafort will probably sing like a canary once the heat gets cranked up a little too much for his comfort.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:02:01am

re: #283 Stanley Sea

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sagehen  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:02:56am

re: #226 Sir John Barron

Resign? When he has a chance to go full throttle on asset forfeiture? Asset forfeiture is his dream, a throwback to Jim Crow.

half sarc/

Delicious irony — what if he’s so pissed off he goes asset forfeiture on the boss who insulted him?

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:04:37am
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Weaselone  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:04:48am

re: #349 sagehen

Delicious irony — what if he’s so pissed off he goes asset forfeiture on the boss who insulted him?

Well, Trump Towers are the site of a potential crime one that is possibly still ongoing.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:04:51am

re: #327 makeitstop

Check this quote. Trump thinks he can boss Congress around, but nobody is afraid of him. Nobody.

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I bet you many Republicans feel that way, they just have boxed their own selves into crazy land and butt kissing wingnuts they can’t let it be known.

I do think it is like constipation. Once they are loosened up and covered by the information that will allow them to dump Trump they will explode and shit all over Donny.

I can hear him now: “I just heard the Congress is starting impeachment proceedings against me. I didn’t know they could do that. Did you know they could do that? I think it is very mean to Trump!”

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:06:07am

re: #348 wheat-dogg

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sizzzzlerz  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:06:11am

re: #335 Sir John Barron

But Trump thinks his personal finances are supposed to be off limits to any investigation.

I always wondered what would happen if someday America would have a president who knew absolutely nothing and expected the laws and institutions to conform to him.

/

God damn it! I didn’t ask to be part of your little science experiment!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:06:45am

re: #352 ObserverArt

I do think it is like constipation. Once they are loosened up and covered by the information that will allow them to dump Trump they will explode and shit all over Donny.

“This town needs an enema!”

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darthstar  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:07:05am

re: #273 Lidane

This is an epic level of petty and I’m here for it:

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I hope she releases a statement, in English, saying Trump never tried talking to her.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:07:15am

re: #335 Sir John Barron

But Trump thinks his personal finances are supposed to be off limits to any investigation.

I always wondered what would happen if someday America would have a president who knew absolutely nothing and expected the laws and institutions to conform to him.

/

Yeah…investigations are only for Clintons in DonnyLand.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:08:09am

re: #346 Dr Lizardo

That’s what struck my student - it was unusual in that we see the crime happen, we see who did it, yet we get to follow along with Lt. Columbo as he solves the crime. Nice touch.

It was an inversion of the usual detective fiction, and it worked exceptionally well. Columbo played dumb and invariably got the crooks to say too much.

Kinda like the NYT reporters interviewing Trump.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:10:10am

re: #356 darthstar

I hope she releases a statement, in English, saying Trump never tried talking to her.

I’ll bet she did, and Trump has forgotten it. Probably small talk, which isanything not Trump related.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:10:17am

re: #348 wheat-dogg

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:10:59am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:12:08am

re: #358 wheat-dogg

It was an inversion of the usual detective fiction, and it worked exceptionally well. Columbo played dumb and invariably got the crooks to say too much.

Kinda like the NYT reporters interviewing Trump.

There’s a similar tactic here; in Czech, it’s known as “Švejking”. From the novel The Good Soldier Švejk by Jaroslav Hašek, published posthumously in 1923.

Basically, by playing dumb, the titular character reveals the monstrous absurdity of his commanding officers and other higher-ups.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:12:38am

re: #360 Stanley Sea

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This last year has been tough on the membership here. Several people are posting less or not at all. I miss many of them.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:18:33am

re: #244 FormerDirtDart

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Fake news

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:21:24am

re: #362 Dr Lizardo

There’s a similar tactic here; in Czech, it’s known as “Švejking”. From the novel The Good Soldier Švejk by Jaroslav Hašek, published posthumously in 1923.

Basically, by playing dumb, the titular character reveals the monstrous absurdity of his commanding officers and other higher-ups.

Forgot to add the Wiki entry - en.wikipedia.org. The best English-language version is this one: The Fateful Adventures of the Good Soldier Svejk During the World War, tr. Zdeněk Sadloň and Emmit Joyce, in three volumes, 1997; ISBN 1585004286, ISBN 9781585004287. It best captures the nuances of the original Czech language.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:22:29am

re: #356 darthstar

I hope she releases a statement, in English, saying Trump never tried talking to her.

I hope she releases a statement in English saying she didn’t want to talk to someone who’s English is as bad as Trump’s.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:23:31am

Firing Mueller? Schiff says ‘bring it.’

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:24:36am

re: #263 lawhawk

What’s the best bit of karma there? They are using Preet’s research and legal work.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:25:47am

re: #360 Stanley Sea

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:26:40am

re: #367 makeitstop

Firing Mueller? Schiff says ‘bring it.’

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Except there is no guarantee that the GOP will authorize a new Special Counsel. They are still in thrall to the GOP base and the GOP moneyed class; they may be contemptuous of Trump but that won’t interfere with their public worship of him.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:26:59am

re: #366 Sir John Barron

I hope she releases a statement in English saying she didn’t want to talk to someone who’s English is as bad as Trump’s.

She wanted intelligent conversation.

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dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:27:44am

re: #363 ObserverArt

This last year has been tough on the membership here. Several people are posting less or not at all. I miss many of them.

i came back in the last week or so. (if anybody noticed or cared).
working on a short missive explaining how i came around.
film at 11

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:27:58am

re: #367 makeitstop

Firing Mueller? Schiff says ‘bring it.’

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For Trump, that’s a challenge. He’ll be all like “challenge accepted”. Hubris and ignorance is the worst possible combination.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:27:59am

re: #365 Dr Lizardo

Forgot to add the Wiki entry - en.wikipedia.org. The best English-language version is this one: The Fateful Adventures of the Good Soldier Svejk During the World War, tr. Zdeněk Sadloň and Emmit Joyce, in three volumes, 1997; ISBN 1585004286, ISBN 9781585004287. It best captures the nuances of the original Czech language.

I may just add this to my ever-growing reading list.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:28:22am

re: #209 Eventual Carrion

Females can’t drive a TARDIS properly.

//

FAKE NEWS

River Song (many crushes on her) could ‘drive’ the TARDIS much better than the Dr. could. Ok, far enough back (earlier?) in the Dr.’s life he couldn’t direct it at all.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:28:34am

re: #367 makeitstop

Firing Mueller? Schiff says ‘bring it.’

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All righty!!! I asked yesterday if they could use Mueller as an outside special investigator if he gets fired by the Justice Department.

Sounds like Trump has Mueller around his neck no matter what.

Once Trump realizes this I bet he really starts to sweat. Look for more and more crazy talk and actions from Big Orange. The stress is going to get him.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:29:53am

re: #374 wheat-dogg

I may just add this to my ever-growing reading list.

Oh, do; it’s a great book. Considered the first anti-war novel in the wake of WWI - it predates Remarque’s All Quiet On The Western Front by several years.

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dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:30:22am

re: #373 Dr Lizardo

For Trump, that’s a challenge. He’ll be all like “challenge accepted”. Hubris and ignorance is the worst possible combination.

after pineapple on pizza, maybe.

(yup i’m back)

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:30:57am

re: #377 Dr Lizardo

Oh, do; it’s a great book. Considered the first anti-war novel in the wake of WWI - it predates Remarque’s All Quiet On The Western Front by several years.

Available for free with Kindle Unlimited.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:31:36am

re: #313 bratwurst

Was OJ paroled?

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dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:32:12am

re: #376 ObserverArt

All righty!!! I asked yesterday if they could use Mueller as an outside special investigator if he gets fired by the Justice Department.

Sounds like Trump has Mueller around his neck no matter what.

Once Trump realizes this I bet he really starts to sweat. Look for more and more crazy talk and actions from Big Orange. The stress is going to get him.

he doesnt have a clue as to the machinactions, the rules, the law, the the long game - he doesnt understand how any of this really works - he just blurts

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:32:31am

re: #380 MsJ

Was OJ paroled?

Yeah, I haven’t heard yet. I know it’s kinda widely expected he will be.

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sagehen  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:32:35am

re: #351 Weaselone

Well, Trump Towers are the site of a potential crime one that is possibly still ongoing.

As are Mar-a-Lago, Bedminster, Trump Int’l Hotel DC…

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nines09  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:33:33am

Lest We Forget

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:33:38am

re: #380 MsJ

Was OJ paroled?

I think all the TV hoopla starts at 1:00 PM.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:34:25am

re: #370 Hecuba’s daughter

Except there is no guarantee that the GOP will authorize a new Special Counsel. They are still in thrall to the GOP base and the GOP moneyed class; they may be contemptuous of Trump but that won’t interfere with their public worship of him.

It’s not up to the full congress, is it? Just the committee charged with the investigation AFAIK.

And if Congress does authorize, how did they even get Mueller in the door in the first place?

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:36:57am

McCain’s got this one right.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:37:24am

Stanley—Got to read the TPM article on the Alaskan climate scientist. Reads totally real.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:38:10am

re: #388 Decatur Deb

Stanley—Got to read the TPM article on the Alaskan climate scientist. Reads totally real.

Good & you mean WaPo right?

:-)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:38:36am

re: #382 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I haven’t heard yet. I know it’s kinda widely expected he will be.

On NPR this morning they said if he get parole, he is still in prison until 1 October 2017

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:38:45am

re: #382 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I haven’t heard yet. I know it’s kinda widely expected he will be.

Starting a pool for how long before he’s arrested again.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:39:04am

re: #389 Stanley Sea

Good & you mean WaPo right?

:-)

Same story. Wife put my Amazon/WaPo work order in her IT queue.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:39:56am

re: #392 Decatur Deb

Same story. Wife put my Amazon/WaPo work order in her IT queue.

My coffee has kicked in & I’m hyper!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:40:09am

From the Bloomberg article on the Trump investigation:

Agents are also interested in dealings with the Bank of Cyprus, where Wilbur Ross served as vice chairman before he became commerce secretary. They are also examining the efforts of Jared Kushner, the President’s son-in-law and White House aide, to secure financing for some of his family’s real estate properties. The information was provided by someone familiar with the developing inquiry but not authorized to speak publicly.

The roots of Mueller’s follow-the-money investigation lie in a wide-ranging money laundering probe launched by then-Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara last year, according to the person.

Boom.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:41:05am

I am very excited to see Dunkirk, but I wasn’t really familiar with all the movie terms like IMAX and RPX, so, using my feng-shui googling abilities, I came up with this.

slate.com

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:41:10am

re: #388 Decatur Deb

Stanley—Got to read the TPM article on the Alaskan climate scientist. Reads totally real.

One of them AK climate (SES level, no less) was interviewed on Morning Edition today. What a giant clusterfuck. This admin. is running on complete lawlessness when it comes to the contracts that government workers signed.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:42:02am

re: #394 Dr Lizardo

From the Bloomberg article on the Trump investigation:

Boom.

We’re gonna need a bigger prison.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:42:28am

re: #387 makeitstop

McCain’s got this one right.

POTUS will handle this with the usual class.

/

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Myron Falwell  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:43:08am

re: #394 Dr Lizardo

From the Bloomberg article on the Trump investigation:

Boom.

Looks like firing Preet may not have been such a smart idea now, Donnie.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:43:08am

re: #281 Unshaken Defiance

Oh. It’s one of THOSE days. I must have missed something in the news. Or is this about Trump and Mueller?

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Pushy Advert /autoplay video crazy site so no link.

Sell Mortimer sell!!!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:44:21am

re: #399 Myron Falwell

Looks like firing Preet may not have been such a smart idea now, Donnie.

Looks like firing Comey might not have been a stroke of brilliance either. For Trump anyway.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:44:51am

I bet the yam hasn’t picked up the phone.

Just the “get well soon” from last night.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:45:57am

re: #400 Eventual Carrion

Sell Mortimer sell!!!

TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON!!!!

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:46:38am

re: #399 Myron Falwell

Looks like firing Preet may not have been such a smart idea now, Donnie.

Preet’s investigation is the one where Trump can’t claim any type of presidential privilege. Nor can any family members/Russian chums.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:47:18am

All that matters is attention.

ADDLED

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:47:45am

re: #396 Colère Tueur de Lapin

One of them AL climate (SES level, no less) was interviewed on Morning Edition today. What a giant clusterfuck. This admin. is running on complete lawlessness when it comes to the contracts that government workers signed.

Sounds like the same guy. My Civil Service mentor was something of a master—he never fired anyone, they just went away.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:48:53am

re: #405 Stanley Sea

All that matters is attention.

ADDLED

Trump and Sons think they really turned a corner this week…
//

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:50:11am

re: #323 Birth Control Works

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Think he will be fired?

He’ll be promoted to trainer.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:54:13am

The key takeaway here is that the GOP and Trump keep eliminating health coverage for 20-30 million people. Not a single version of Trumpcare provides more care and coverage to more people than under Obamacare.

They aren’t even trying.

It’s all tax cuts all the time with the GOP. They are actively skipping the part with replacement at this point too. That’s too hard and they aren’t even going to try.

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darthstar  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:54:46am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:55:55am

re: #410 darthstar

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They’re only complaining that they can’t drown it fast enough.

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Targetpractice  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:56:59am

Schiff’s talking a good game, but the GOP leadership will not allow a vote on any bill to reinstate the Independent Counsel Act. These asshats have spent weeks throwing all sorts of shade on Mueller and his investigation, you think they’re going to suddenly decide that his termination means its time to rise up against Comrade Combover? Hell no, they’ll express “dismay” and “concern,” but behind closed doors with wipe sweat from their brows and congratulate each other on having seen off that particular investigation.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:57:44am

re: #410 darthstar

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dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:58:21am

re: #405 Stanley Sea

All that matters is attention.

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Trump adviser says he was in a great mood after the New York Times interview & thought that it went “really well.”
ADDLED

when you speak in gibberish it always goes “really well”.
who can tell?

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darthstar  Jul 20, 2017 • 9:58:36am

I think Mueller knows his days will be numbered as he closes on Trump and his family’s money laundering for the Russians, so he’s going to line everything up so it will be easy for any prosecutor to pick up and run with after he’s gone.

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darthstar  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:00:08am

And, as expected, Bigoted Keebler Elf Jeff Sessions wasn’t phased by Trump’s lack of confidence one bit. He figures insults come with the job.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:01:28am

re: #411 Decatur Deb

They’re only complaining that they can’t drown it fast enough.

Like trying to drown a fish in water

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:01:33am

re: #412 Targetpractice

Schiff’s talking a good game, but the GOP leadership will not allow a vote on any bill to reinstate the Independent Counsel Act. These asshats have spent weeks throwing all sorts of shade on Mueller and his investigation, you think they’re going to suddenly decide that his termination means its time to rise up against Comrade Combover? Hell no, they’ll express “dismay” and “concern,” but behind closed doors with wipe sweat from their brows and congratulate each other on having seen off that particular investigation.

If the GOP leadership can’t present a plausible show of investigation, then 2018 becomes a do-or-die situation for the sleeping electorate. They won’t risk that.

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dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:01:40am

re: #409 lawhawk

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The key takeaway here is that the GOP and Trump keep eliminating health coverage for 20-30 million people. Not a single version of Trumpcare provides more care and coverage to more people than under Obamacare.

They aren’t even trying.

It’s all tax cuts all the time with the GOP. They are actively skipping the part with replacement at this point too. That’s too hard and they aren’t even going to try.

remember:

A new Fox News poll finds 74% of Americans want GOP lawmakers to reach out to Democrats and try to find a compromise on a new health care bill. That includes 86% of Democrats and 59% of Republicans.

(i wonder if ‘compromise’ means where no one loses coverage?)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:01:51am

re: #362 Dr Lizardo

There’s a similar tactic here; in Czech, it’s known as “Švejking”. From the novel The Good Soldier Švejk by Jaroslav Hašek, published posthumously in 1923.

Basically, by playing dumb, the titular character reveals the monstrous absurdity of his commanding officers and other higher-ups.

“Silence” is schweigen in German, is the word similar in Czech? If so it could be a play on words.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:04:27am

re: #416 darthstar

And, as expected, Bigoted Keebler Elf Jeff Sessions wasn’t phased by Trump’s lack of confidence one bit. He figures insults come with the job.

The astonishing thing is how Trump clearly wanted ‘loyalty’ from Sessions, wanted him to have POTUS’s back. Absolutely no understanding of the role of the AG. Any other person with a shred of integrity would have resigned immediately.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:05:26am

re: #420 The Vicious Babushka

“Silence” is schweigen in German, is the word similar in Czech? If so it could be a play on words.

Silence in Czech is “umlčet”. Probably just a coincidence they sound similar.

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Targetpractice  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:06:57am

re: #418 Decatur Deb

If the GOP leadership can’t present a plausible show of investigation, then 2018 becomes a do-or-die situation for the sleeping electorate. They won’t risk that.

Sure they will. They’re going to bet as they always do, on low turnout that favors their base. They’ll get out there on the stump, talking about how Mueller’s investigation was a “witch hunt,” a partisan affair chock full of Clinton supporters who were trying to overturn the results of the 2016 election.

The “moderates” will wring their hands and say that while they don’t approve of Mueller’s termination, it is within the powers of the presidency. That while they are “dismayed” and “concerned” about that whole affair, they have faith in the Congressional committee investigations and will support them as they meander along.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:08:02am

re: #419 dangerman

remember:

A new Fox News poll finds 74% of Americans want GOP lawmakers to reach out to Democrats and try to find a compromise on a new health care bill. That includes 86% of Democrats and 59% of Republicans.

(i wonder if ‘compromise’ means where no one loses coverage?)

Your first problem. It’s a Fox News poll, and there’s no way to know what anyone means by compromise. Poorly worded, and can be construed to mean anything to anyone.

Kind of like how Trump spews empty platitudes and his supporters love him for it and even they don’t know what the hell he just said.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:12:07am

re: #423 Targetpractice

Sure they will. They’re going to bet as they always do, on low turnout that favors their base. They’ll get out there on the stump, talking about how Mueller’s investigation was a “witch hunt,” a partisan affair chock full of Clinton supporters who were trying to overturn the results of the 2016 election.

The “moderates” will wring their hands and say that while they don’t approve of Mueller’s termination, it is within the powers of the presidency. That while they are “dismayed” and “concerned” about that whole affair, they have faith in the Congressional committee investigations and will support them as they meander along.

Then we’ll find out if Americans still deserve a democracy.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:14:21am

re: #412 Targetpractice

Schiff’s talking a good game, but the GOP leadership will not allow a vote on any bill to reinstate the Independent Counsel Act. These asshats have spent weeks throwing all sorts of shade on Mueller and his investigation, you think they’re going to suddenly decide that his termination means its time to rise up against Comrade Combover? Hell no, they’ll express “dismay” and “concern,” but behind closed doors with wipe sweat from their brows and congratulate each other on having seen off that particular investigation.

And then the REAL juicy leaks will start

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Targetpractice  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:16:38am

The problem with any talk about a GOP/DNC compromise bill on healthcare? There’s a pretty clear line that both sides will not cross. The GOP will not end talk about repealing the ACA, and the DNC will not ever entertain any suggestion that it be repealed. So long as that line in the sand exists, any suggestions of a bipartisan compromise is foolhardy.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:21:04am

OJ is not doing himself any favors here.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:23:06am

re: #426 Eventual Carrion

And then the REAL juicy leaks will start

I believe this.

We can do it clean, or we can do it dirty. Either way is fine by me.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:24:42am

Time to bug out…I leave you with this.

Joe Btfsplk joins Little Green Footballs - Oh whoa is we!
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dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:25:14am

re: #424 lawhawk

Your first problem. It’s a Fox News poll, and there’s no way to know what anyone means by compromise. Poorly worded, and can be construed to mean anything to anyone.

Kind of like how Trump spews empty platitudes and his supporters love him for it and even they don’t know what the hell he just said.

true enough and i’m not particularly promoting the poll
i just read it and i think the actual questions were clear enough:

31. Which better describes how you feel about Obamacare?

We should throw it out and start over 33
We should keep it and make it better 60
We should leave it alone 4
(Don’t know) 3

32. Thinking about the current health care debate, if you had to choose, would you rather see lawmakers:

Make changes so that more people would have health insurance, even if it costs the government more money 63
Make changes to reduce government spending, even if it means fewer people would have health insurance 27
(Don’t know) 9

33. If President Trump and the Republicans in Congress can’t agree about what to do on Obamacare, do you think they should drop their current repeal and replace plans and start over later, or should they reach out to Democrats and try to find a compromise?

Drop the current plan and start over later (22%)
Reach out to Democrats and try to find a compromise (74%)
(Don’t know) (3%)

it is fox and i guess it’s all about the sample. those numbers seem pretty clear

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:26:05am

OJ is not going to get parole. I’m calling it now.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:26:20am

re: #430 ObserverArt

Time to bug out…I leave you with this.

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Yep, the defeatism here can be a drag. If the Republicans had thought that way in 2000 2008, the would actually be a regional party, rather than the one in charge of both the executive and legislative branches.

Edit: I meant 2008.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:26:46am

re: #244 FormerDirtDart

48 years ago today, Neil Armstrong became the first person to walk on the moon

I remember that evening, I was ten years old, and one proud American kid that day.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:27:48am

re: #434 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember that evening, I was ten years old, and one proud American kid that day.

I was born on the day the Apollo 12 landed on the moon.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:28:03am

re: #434 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember that evening, I was ten years old, and one proud American kid that day.

And someday we will walk on Mars, to find the ruins left by the former inhabitants.
//

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:29:34am

re: #436 wheat-dogg

And someday we will walk on Mars, to find the ruins left by the former inhabitants.
//

“God Save the Queen”

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:32:29am

re: #430 ObserverArt

Time to bug out…I leave you with this.

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You might have the right idea.

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Semper Fi  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:32:30am

re: #432 MsJ

OJ is not going to get parole. I’m calling it now.

I can’t speak for the board but my vote would be, No!

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:32:46am

re: #433 Belafon

Yep, the defeatism here can be a drag. If the Republicans had thought that way in 2000, the would actually be a regional party, rather than the one in charge of both the executive and legislative branches.

That is because they are Republicans. Democrats cannot do that don’t you know. We didn’t even have a majority in 2008.

I like how they help by not helping.

Donny Trump and those very same Republicans are counting on their lack of support. They count on all that doom to spread by their very own words to discourage others. And it works.

Fuck that noise.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:34:40am

re: #439 Semper Fi

I can’t speak for the board but my vote would be, No!

He’s argumentative, unconcerned about what they’re asking, didn’t take courses they wanted him to…I don’t see it.

He thinks he’s a good guy. (He literally said that just now.)

He is answering all these questions absolutely 100% incorrectly. He must be a sociopath to not realize what he is saying is bad.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:34:52am

It’s a plot from a “CSI: Whichever” episode.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:35:48am

re: #440 ObserverArt

That is because they are Republicans. Democrats cannot do that don’t you know. We didn’t even have a majority in 2008.

I like how they help by not helping.

Donny Trump and those very same Republicans are counting on their lack of support. They count on all that doom to spread by their very own words to discourage others. And it works.

Fuck that noise.

We are not doomed. Yet. If anyone doesn’t want to be doomed, they better get used to the idea of investing a lot of time, money, and self-discipline. Then maybe we won’t have to invest much blood.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:36:54am

re: #440 ObserverArt

That is because they are Republicans. Democrats cannot do that don’t you know. We didn’t even have a majority in 2008.

I like how they help by not helping.

Donny Trump and those very same Republicans are counting on their lack of support. They count on all that doom to spread by their very own words to discourage others. And it works.

Fuck that noise.

I meant to type 2008. Your point still stands.

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retired cynic  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:36:55am

re: #442 FormerDirtDart

It’s a plot from a “CSI: Whichever” episode.

[Embedded content]

It seems wrong to “like” this post. But thanks for posting it!

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Semper Fi  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:37:07am

re: #441 MsJ

He’s argumentative, unconcerned about what they’re asking, didn’t take courses they wanted him to…I don’t see it.

He thinks he’s a good guy. (He literally said that just now.)

He is answering all these questions absolutely 100% incorrectly. He must be a sociopath to not realize what he is saying is bad.

And I don’t think he’s really accepted his personal responsibility and seems to be setting himself apart from it all.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:37:29am

re: #437 Belafon

“God Save the Queen”

But, Dejah Thoris doesn’t believe in god.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:37:33am

re: #442 FormerDirtDart

It’s a plot from a “CSI: Whichever” episode.

[Embedded content]

Shades of Les Harvey.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:37:49am

re: #438 makeitstop

You might have the right idea.

What taking off for a bit?

I sure as hell don’t want to discourage people from posting here.

As I said earlier this past year has been real tough. We need more members here not less. And we need some of the current members that are posting less to help not only defeat Republicans…sadly to defeat the defeatists.

I’ve never slashed my wrists and I am not going to start now.

I take breaks just so my fingers don’t type what I’d really like to say. That would do no good for anyone.

Anyway…time for one of those breaks.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:39:59am

re: #446 Semper Fi

And I don’t think he’s really accepted his personal responsibility and seems to be setting himself apart from it all.

Not in the least.

Twitter is having a field day. This guy is nuts. #OJSimpsonParole I am hardly the only one who thinks what he’s saying is looney tunes.

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John Carter  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:40:53am

re: #447 Colère Tueur de Lapin

But, Dejah Thoris doesn’t believe in god.

Hey, that’s my girl.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:41:55am

re: #450 MsJ

Not in the least.

Twitter is having a field day. This guy is nuts. #OJSimpsonParole I am hardly the only one who thinks what he’s saying is looney tunes.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:44:47am

Just asking questions!!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:46:36am

re: #453 Dr. Matt

Just asking questions!!

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We are assured by a big-city doctor that he is the healthiest man ever to occupy the White House.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:47:44am

re: #452 Dr Lizardo

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:48:15am

re: #454 Decatur Deb

We are assured by a big-city doctor that he is the healthiest man ever to occupy the White House.

LOL one of my students mixed up the medical trades and asked me once “Why is Trump’s doctor a proctologist?”

I damn near gave myself a hernia laughing.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:50:25am
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dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:50:43am

re: #455 MsJ

[Embedded content] OJ sounds like that student who didn’t do the reading but is still trying to pass the test.

kinda like…. oh why bother?

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:53:46am

re: #458 dangerman

kinda like…. oh why bother?

Heck, they may let him out just to get rid of him.

I feel sorry for his daughter, up there for her dad. Maybe she believes he didn’t kill her mother. Maybe he is all she has. It kinda broke my heart watching her.

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Kragar  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:57:13am
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jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:57:30am

You tax dollars at work, helping the GOP sabotage the ACA.

Under Secretary Tom Price’s stewardship, HHS has filmed and produced a series of testimonial videos featuring individuals claiming to have been harmed by Obamacare. Those “viral” videos have had decidedly limited reach, often gathering somewhere between 100 and 200 views each. But the Department has made a heavy investment in them nonetheless. To date, it has released 23 videos. A source familiar with the video production says that there have been nearly 30 interviews conducted in total, from which more than 130 videos have been produced.

Each testimonial has the same look, feel, and setting, with the subjects sitting before a gray backdrop and speaking directly to camera about how Obamacare has harmed their lives.
thedailybeast.com

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retired cynic  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:58:02am

Something else to worry about: esquire.com

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Semper Fi  Jul 20, 2017 • 10:59:47am

re: #459 MsJ

Heck, they may let him out just to get rid of him.

I feel sorry for his daughter, up there for her dad. Maybe she believes he didn’t kill her mother. Maybe he is all she has. It kinda broke my heart watching her.

If paroled I’m convinced it will be because of the 9yrs he’s done. IMO his mind still isn’t right as evidenced by the his story-line describing the events that put him in jail. He’s had 9yrs to edit that story in his mind and it shows.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:01:07am

re: #456 Dr Lizardo

LOL one of my students mixed up the medical trades and asked me once “Why is Trump’s doctor a proctologist?”

I damn near gave myself a hernia laughing.

Would fit, a general practitioner for an asshole.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:01:26am

re: #461 jaunte

You tax dollars at work, helping the GOP sabotage the ACA.

Seatbelts and airbags have harmed some people as well.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:01:36am

re: #464 Eventual Carrion

Would fit, a general practitioner for an asshole.

Exactly. Unintentional comedy gold.

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:06:27am

Conservatives keep trying to establish safe spaces.

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:09:41am

See no evil.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:09:52am

re: #463 Semper Fi

If paroled I’m convinced it will be because of the 9yrs he’s done. IMO his mind still isn’t right as evidenced by the his story-line describing the events that put him in jail. He’s had 9yrs to edit that story in his mind and it shows.

I have to say this is some weird shit I’m watching.

His attorney is out of central casting for every bad opposing counsel ever in a movie or tv show.

Simpson is obviously lying his ass off (he lived a conflict free life? Oookay.)

It’s like the original trial circus.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:11:25am

re: #468 jaunte

See no evil.

But Obama rammed Ocare down their precious throats.

/

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:14:34am
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piratedan  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:14:42am

re: #468 jaunte

well lets see, the previous version of the bill was a shit sandwich, then we tweaked it and it became a shit wrap, and now, we’ve figured out that there was still something not quite right, so we ditched the bread and the tortilla and decided to encrust the turd with nails and broken glass instead and YOU STILL DON’T LIKE IT, what is wrong with you people?

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:15:55am

re: #472 piratedan

“Look we figured out how to wring $842 billion out of you losers, and we just can’t afford the luxury of not doing it!”

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dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:16:07am

re: #470 Sir John Barron

But Obama rammed Ocare down their precious throats.

/

vox

a good contrast between how obama shepherded ppaca vs trump’s absence from the process

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Targetpractice  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:16:56am

re: #468 jaunte

[Embedded content]

See no evil.

Haven’t we been here before? Oh right, it was how after months of open debates and long public discussions, the GOP insisted that “nobody knew” what was in the ACA when it was being voted upon and the public was “being kept in the dark.”

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dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:17:16am

re: #471 jaunte

[Embedded content]

“see we just saved 10m people. no one trying to repeal and replace has saved more. ever”

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:17:26am

re: #468 jaunte

See no evil.

For those of you who don’t have to be represented by Cruz and Cornyn, you’d better feel lucky.

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:19:02am
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piratedan  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:19:08am

re: #477 Belafon

not sure how I have it better with McCain and Flake, maybe less publicly embarrassing, but they vote exactly the same.

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Fineday  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:19:49am

Linkin Park’s Chester Bennington commits suicide
Link

Another rock musician gone way too soon.

Link goes to the dailybeast.com

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:23:52am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:24:27am

re: #480 Fineday

Linkin Park’s Chester Bennington commits suicide
Link

Another rock musician gone way too soon.

Link goes to the dailybeast.com

Damn.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:24:32am

re: #480 Fineday

Linkin Park’s Chester Bennington commits suicide
Link

Another rock musician gone way too soon.

Link goes to the dailybeast.com

Aw, man. I just saw him last year with Kings of Chaos.

All I can do is ask why?

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:24:47am

“…Harris County’s Hart InterCivic eSlate voting machines, for example, haven’t had any major security updates following studies conducted a decade ago by the states of California and Ohio. (I was part of the California effort.) In short, an attacker need only tamper with a single voting machine. After that, the infection can spread “virally” to every machine in the county.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:25:05am

re: #468 jaunte

[Embedded content]

See no evil.

Scumbucket.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:25:06am

re: #480 Fineday

Linkin Park’s Chester Bennington commits suicide
Link

Another rock musician gone way too soon.

Link goes to the dailybeast.com

Links are both bad.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:27:53am

re: #480 Fineday

Linkin Park’s Chester Bennington commits suicide
Link

Another rock musician gone way too soon.

Link goes to the dailybeast.com

You’re missing a colon. Here is the correct link.

thedailybeast.com

Too bad. I like Linkin Park.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:27:59am

re: #369 wheat-dogg

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:28:34am

re: #486 MsJ

Links are both bad.

Here it is in SPIN. Very few details yet, although he apparently did the deed on Chris Cornell’s birthday.

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KGxvi  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:28:54am

re: #483 makeitstop

Aw, man. I just saw him last year with Kings of Chaos.

All I can do is ask why?

He’d had substance abuse problems, and apparently was also a survivor of abuse as a child, TMZ describes it like this:

The singer struggled with drugs and alcohol for years. He had said in the past he had considered committing suicide because he had been abused as a child by an older male

Sometimes, no matter how hard we try, we can’t escape our demons. Hopefully he finds peace

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:32:23am

re: #490 KGxvi

He’d had substance abuse problems, and apparently was also a survivor of abuse as a child, TMZ describes it like this:

Sometimes, no matter how hard we try, we can’t escape our demons. Hopefully he finds peace

So sad, man. So goddamned sad.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:32:36am
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Bubblehead II  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:33:32am

re: #481 FormerDirtDart

He isn’t very optimistic about the Falcon Heavy maiden flight either.

Elon Musk says successful maiden flight for Falcon Heavy unlikely

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:33:46am

re: #492 FormerDirtDart

Maganomics is the hot new doofmanteau.

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Kragar  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:36:07am
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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:36:40am

re: #488 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:37:36am

re: #495 Kragar

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Trump’s worst nightmare is slowly coming to life.

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Jay C  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:37:42am

re: #494 jaunte

Maganomics is the hot new doofmanteau.

Which, I’m sure will be immediately re-translated as
Sell off/sell out to the Russians

Da??

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Kragar  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:39:29am

re: #497 Dr Lizardo

Trump’s worst nightmare is slowly coming to life.

“You will not look into my family’s personal finances!”
“Oh really?”

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:39:34am
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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:41:35am

re: #500 jaunte

Of course not. It’s about returning to the 6th century.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:42:24am

re: #501 Belafon

Of course not. It’s about returning to the 6th century.

BC of course.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:43:03am

I have a feeling it’s gonna be an interesting three weeks while I’m gone starting next week.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:45:55am

re: #500 jaunte

COAL!

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:46:25am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:47:02am

re: #499 Kragar

“You will not look into my family’s personal finances!”
“Oh really?”

He’ll definitely fire Mueller.

Dems better make that the issue when he does.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:47:47am

We need a no Nazis rule for congress.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:48:09am

re: #505 makeitstop

I stand with @Cernovich & @JackPosobiec
- Josh Mandel

Nah, don’t do that. Never go full Cernovich/Posobiec

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:48:43am

re: #505 makeitstop

I hate to inform these guys but terrorism is political (not all politics is terrorism though).

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I cannot.  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:49:16am

re: #507 Single-handed sailor

I’m surprisingly OK with them running…it puts them in public spaces where much punching can occur.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:49:58am

re: #506 Sir John Barron

He’ll definitely fire Mueller.

Dems better make that the issue when he does.

A large amount of the public already thinks he should be impeached. This would push it into the majority.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:50:21am

re: #495 Kragar

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I love the smell of laundered money in the afternoon!

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:50:51am

Awwww fuck!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:51:44am

re: #505 makeitstop

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Pathetic.

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I cannot.  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:52:10am

re: #512 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, just remember to use no bleach, or at least use color-safe bleach. The last time I laundered money, well, it didn’t turn out so well.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:53:17am

Thing is guys like Mandel are fine with silencing lefty voices they don’t like. I have no problem with the ADL calling out these bigots.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:54:36am

re: #493 Bubblehead II

Realistic, imho.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:54:38am

Paroled

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:55:25am

I wish America would act like a damn adult, and ignore this nonsense

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:57:59am

Well, unless something major happens, we know will be on the Post’s front page tomorrow

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:58:42am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 11:59:03am
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Myron Falwell  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:00:56pm

Re: Chester Bennington

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KGxvi  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:00:56pm

Even by 2016/2017 standards, this has been a really weird like 19 hours of a news cycle. We have, in no particular order:

-Trump saying he wouldn’t have picked Session if he knew he’d recuse himself

-McCain’s doctors announcing he has brain cancer

-Chester Bennington committing suicide

-OJ getting paroled

Am I missing anything?

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Bubblehead II  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:01:06pm

re: #517 Unshaken Defiance

Realistic, imho.

Oh, I agree. Elon is being up front (as usual) with this. Slapping 3 Falcon 9s together to make a heavy lift vehicle is risky and as he stated more difficult than they thought it would be. The first launch should be spectacular either way.

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:01:18pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:01:58pm

re: #522 FormerDirtDart

“Waitress, make that a Martini instead of water with my lunch”
Celebrity pays. SMH

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:03:15pm

re: #481 FormerDirtDart

Verbal approval is meaningless. Perhaps it means even less with this administration.

Any route between NYC and DC requires permission from multiple stakeholders (you are building in/under land that doesn’t belong to you, but even before that you’d have to run DEIS/NEPA environmental impacts, get that approval, and none of that is even remotely on the horizon.

This is just wishful thinking on his part. The hard work involves all the permitting and studies before anything gets done.

Even if it’s entirely underground, you’d still need to get permission from the landowners, and there’d still be need to negotiate rights to tunnel underneath (and obtain access to dump the tunnel spoilings, maintain mechanicals, etc.)

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:03:42pm

It’s ok, OJ is heading to Florida.

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:04:23pm
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KGxvi  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:05:26pm

re: #530 jaunte

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The best way to use that slogan? An ad where Arnold announces he’s switched parties.

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I cannot.  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:05:35pm

re: #529 Shropshire Slasher

Of course it would be Florida.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:05:39pm

re: #524 KGxvi

Even by 2016/2017 standards, this has been a really weird like 19 hours of a news cycle. We have, in no particular order:

-Trump saying he wouldn’t have picked Session if he knew he’d recuse himself

-McCain’s doctors announcing he has brain cancer

-Chester Bennington committing suicide

-OJ getting paroled

Am I missing anything?

Trump threatens Mueller if special counsel investigates Trumps finances.

Trump doesn’t know what health insurance is.

Trump thinks FBI is supposed to report directly to him and that FBI only reports to AG now because of Watergate.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:07:32pm

re: #533 Sir John Barron

Trump threatens Mueller if special counsel investigates Trumps finances.

Trump doesn’t know what health insurance is.

Trump thinks FBI is supposed to report directly to him and that FBI only reports to AG now because of Watergate.

Deutsche Bank is cooperating with Mueller’s investigation of Trump.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:07:52pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:07:59pm

re: #506 Sir John Barron

He’ll definitely fire Mueller.

Dems better make that the issue when he does.

Ben Wittes writes a depressing entry this morning not only about the Times interview and how Trump believes all of gov’t exists at his pleasure, but about Rod Rosenstein’s interview with Martha Macallum on Fox in which RR failed to defend attorneys hired by Mueller from Trump’s accusations of bias. I think Rosenstein is a class A career survivalist who will do whatever it takes to hold on to his job, even if that means licking Trump’s balls.

lawfareblog.com

537
Unshaken Defiance  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:08:07pm

re: #525 Bubblehead II

Oh, I agree. Elon is being up front (as usual) with this. Slapping 3 Falcon 9s together to make a heavy lift vehicle is risky and as he stated more difficult than they thought it would be. The first launch should be spectacular either way.

Vibration is why NASA lost one whole design, had to start over. ARES if I recall, now we have the SLS and the Orion capsule etc on top

538
I cannot.  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:08:34pm

re: #533 Sir John Barron

Trump thinks it costs $12 a year for insurance and you receive it at retirement.

The whole Eiffel tower, Russia/Napoleon thing

The Macron likes holding my tiny hand thing…

539
jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:08:41pm

re: #534 Dr Lizardo

Deutsche Bank is cooperating with Mueller’s investigation of Trump.

Deutsche Bank expects subpoenas over Trump-Russia investigation
theguardian.com

540
FormerDirtDart  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:11:55pm

re: #528 lawhawk

I would assume the obvious path to completion would involve seizing the subsurface right-of-ways through imminent domain

541
Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:13:33pm

re: #539 jaunte

Deutsche Bank expects subpoenas over Trump-Russia investigation
theguardian.com

Ah, my bad. I jumped the gun, it seems.

Well, up early for work tomorrow; good night, Lizards. Another wild day.

542
Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:15:28pm

Slave labor - they are slaves to their H2B visas. The clubs hold them hostage. Just another thing to investigate.

543
jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:16:51pm

re: #542 Stanley Sea

Trump’s claim that his businesses can’t find locals to work those jobs is garbage.

544
Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:18:36pm

re: #543 jaunte

Trump’s claim that his businesses can’t find locals to work those jobs is garbage.

Can’t get them to work those jobs for bracero wages.

545
Jay C  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:21:14pm

re: #543 jaunte

Trump’s claim that his businesses can’t find locals to work those jobs is garbage.

Maybe, maybe not. It doesn’t say what Trump’s* Jupiter Club is willing to pay these cooks: my guess is that the starting salary is what economists call “bupkis” - (assuming they ever actually do get paid), and they’ll probably have to pay for their MAGA hats out of their own salaries ($4000 each)…..

*does he own it, or “own” it?

546
Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:24:04pm

re: #542 Stanley Sea

Slave labor - they are slaves to their H2B visas. The clubs hold them hostage. Just another thing to investigate.

Trump’s cult followers love Trump because of his great businessman skills.

//

547
Unshaken Defiance  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:25:37pm

re: #542 Stanley Sea

re: #543 jaunte

Not sure what to make of all this, here in California.

Carrying a fat stack of business cards for his company, Silverado Farming, Solorio approached one prospect, a man with only his bottom set of teeth. He told Solorio that farm work in Stockton pays $11 to $12 an hour. Solorio countered: “Look, we are paying $14.50 now, but we are going up to $16.” The man nodded skeptically.

548
Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:26:09pm

OJ’s been in jail for nine years already? Time moves fast.

espn.com

549
KGxvi  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:26:28pm

In the politics makes strange bedfellows, I give you…

Senators Kamala Harris and Rand Paul co-authoring an Op-ed in the New York Times arguing for reforming the bail system.

The op-ed is to push a bill that encourages states to reform their bail systems. From the op-ed:

First, our legislation empowers states to build on best practices. Kentucky and New Jersey, for instance, have shifted from bail toward personalized risk assessments that analyze factors such as criminal history and substance abuse. These are better indicators of whether a defendant is a flight risk or a threat to the public and ought to be held without bail.

Colorado and West Virginia have improved pretrial services and supervision, such as using telephone reminders so fewer defendants miss court dates and end up detained.

These nudges work. Over the second half of 2006, automated phone call reminders in Multnomah County in Oregon, resulted in 750 people showing up in court who otherwise may have forgotten their date.

Instead of the federal government mandating a one-size-fits-all approach, this bill provides Department of Justice grants directly to the states so each can devise and carry out the most effective policies, tailored for its unique needs.

This strikes me as something to keep an eye on.

550
Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:28:30pm

That’s “White County” y’all, not “White Inmates”:

White County Inmates Given Reduced Jail Time If They Get A Vasectomy

newschannel5.com

551
jimmyvluv4u  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:29:21pm

Saw this posted somewhere else… just makes me sad.

YouTube

552
jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:30:01pm

re: #547 Unshaken Defiance

I can see the problem with agricultural and fishing work, but cheapskate Trump’s looking to save a few bucks on six seasonal cooks at a golf club.

553
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:32:12pm

re: #550 Decatur Deb

That’s “White County” y’all, not “White Inmates”:

White County Inmates Given Reduced Jail Time If They Get A Vasectomy

newschannel5.com

a headline guaranteed to raise outrage among those who fear white genocide…

554
Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:32:27pm

US unemployment is back to basement levels. I blame Obama.

555
Bubblehead II  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:32:50pm

re: #537 Unshaken Defiance

Vibration is why NASA lost one whole design, had to start over. ARES if I recall, now we have the SLS and the Orion capsule etc on top

Yeah it was ARES. Vibration was one of the issues. The escape system was another.

If the accident occurred during the time of high wind blast - at least the period between 30 and 60 seconds after launch, maybe longer - an escaping Orion wouldn’t be able to pull clear of the fragment cloud. Something similar happened in 1998, when a Titan IVA rocket exploded about 40 seconds after launch. It had two somewhat smaller SRBs, but the total load of solid fuel was only a little less than an Ares I SRB, and various other aspects were broadly similar. The debris cloud generated in that accident was half a kilometre across within about 3 seconds, and about 5 km across within about 20 seconds.

556
Kragar  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:39:17pm
557
jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:40:08pm
558
dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:40:18pm

I am regularly heartened and encouraged by the wide ranging interests and the demonstration of depth and breadth of knowledge and experience of the folks here at lgf.

(ok, a lot of ‘ands’. still….)

559
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:40:52pm
560
jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:41:10pm
561
Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:43:29pm

re: #560 jaunte

Kremlin has Hillary’s emails. Russia has 20,000 emails stolen from her secret home server. @IngrahamAngle #Trump2016
— Dan Scavino Jr.

How did he supposedly “know” this?

562
KGxvi  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:43:36pm

I guess it was only a matter of time until someone figured out how to monetize the demographic shifts that see conservatives moving out of blue states and into red states.

Fed up with life in the Golden State, the emailers wanted out.

So they turned to Paul Chabot, a 43-year-old Republican who says he’s discovered the perfect place for them: Collin County in north Texas.

He moved there late last year, bailing on his native California after a second failed run for Congress. In May, he started a company called Conservative Move, which aims to help other Republicans follow his example and escape blue states.

Its slogan is “Helping families move Right.”

Whether the company succeeds remains to be seen. The plan is to connect clients with real estate agents in red states — starting with Collin County — in return for part of the commission on home sales. So far there haven’t been any, though one is pending.

But in a sign of the country’s increasing polarization, Chabot has had no shortage of interest in his cause, having received more than 1,000 inquiries. The biggest share are from very blue California — very red Texas’ biggest political and economic rival.

I’m not going to lie, as someone with no intention of leaving California for anything other than a vacation, I don’t mind if this helps bring real estate prices down. From a less snarky point of view, it is troubling that so many people have found politics to be an important reason to move.

563
piratedan  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:43:37pm

re: #557 jaunte

subterfuge is obviously not something these guys do well….beginning to think that there were two reasons HRC lost

1) a good 40% of the country is either racist or doesn’t give a shit about racism and sexism
2) a competent Russian intelligence team were able to manipulate their assets accordingly, from the Candidate to the Media.

564
Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:44:44pm

re: #556 Kragar

About time for Drump to start rage tweeting about ‘traitor’ Grassley.

/

565
makeitstop  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:45:49pm

re: #561 Sir John Barron

How did he supposedly “know” this?

Apparently, the repulsive Laura Ingraham knew about it first.

Maybe that’s why that Press Secretary gig was not forthcoming…

566
jaunte  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:45:50pm

re: #562 KGxvi

Scenic Collin County: ketr.org

567
Interesting Times  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:47:08pm

re: #566 jaunte

Scenic Collin County: ketr.org

FreedomSpill

568
Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:47:10pm

re: #562 KGxvi

I guess it was only a matter of time until someone figured out how to monetize the demographic shifts that see conservatives moving out of blue states and into red states.

I’m not going to lie, as someone with no intention of leaving California for anything other than a vacation, I don’t mind if this helps bring real estate prices down. From a less snarky point of view, it is troubling that so many people have found politics to be an important reason to move.

He was the subject of a Vice Magazine report on HBO. Note that he’s not monetizing very successfully (one sale pending). The mayor of the Texas town was notably sane about it. The real estate dealer is a TPGOP nutcase who failed a couple CA election runs.

569
A dark and stormy covfefe  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:47:25pm
570
Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:48:03pm

re: #562 KGxvi

He moved there late last year, bailing on his native California after a second failed run for Congress. In May, he started a company called Conservative Move, which aims to help other Republicans follow his example and escape blue states.

“Great, I moved from libtard California to the great state of Texas.”

….

“OK, so now what do I do?”

….

“I got it, I’ll lure other conservatives from libtard states to Texas!”

/

571
Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:48:28pm

re: #570 Sir John Barron

“Great, I moved from libtard California to the great state of Texas.”

….

“OK, so now what do I do?”

….

“I got it, I’ll lure other conservatives from libtard states to Texas!”

/

Sounds like a Ponzi scheme waiting to happen.

572
piratedan  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:49:28pm

re: #562 KGxvi

maybe they can mine coal there….

573
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:50:09pm

re: #572 piratedan

maybe they can mine coal there….

Build more pipelines

574
Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:50:21pm

re: #563 piratedan

subterfuge is obviously not something these guys do well….beginning to think that there were two reasons HRC lost

1) a good 40% of the country is either racist or doesn’t give a shit about racism and sexism
…snip

If it’s only 40%, split 50-50 or better, that’s actually good news. We can work on that.

575
piratedan  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:51:25pm

re: #574 Decatur Deb

just spitblling based on who doesn’t bother to vote

576
Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:51:46pm

re: #571 Sir John Barron

Sounds like a Ponzi scheme waiting to happen.

Sounds like the steak knives open-house promotion didn’t pan out.

577
Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:53:40pm

re: #576 Decatur Deb

Sounds like the steak knives open-house promotion didn’t pan out.

I bet the spots in Glen Garry are a super bargain though.

/

578
dangerman  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:53:53pm

re: #572 piratedan

maybe they can mine coal there….

concentrate em all in one state i dont care what they do there

579
Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:54:32pm

re: #577 Sir John Barron

I bet the spots in Glen Garry are a super bargain though.

/

Most frightening movie since the old Lost Horizon.

580
Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:54:47pm

re: #577 Sir John Barron

I bet the spots in Glen Garry are a super bargain though.

/

“These leads are weak. We need the GlenGarry leads.”

“The leads aren’t weak! You’re weak!”

“Put that coffee down! Coffee’s for closers!”

581
nines09  Jul 20, 2017 • 12:57:26pm

re: #558 dangerman

I am regularly heartened and encouraged by the wide ranging interests and the demonstration of depth and breadth of knowledge and experience of the folks here at lgf.

(ok, a lot of ‘ands’. still….)

ands…..I like my reggae.

Yes boss, yes boss, yes boss….
Kali (collie) in my Chalice..

almost a 1/4 till August…..shit….

John Holt - Police in Helicopter

Here is a gem. Dawn Penn did it in 67…..these folks do it right..

Jazz Jamaica - You Don’t Love Me

I’m back in the sun…..
lata gata

582
Jebediah, RBG  Jul 20, 2017 • 1:03:24pm

re: #163 majii

His failure to read means he doesn’t know jack about history or anything else.

Or how to form a coherent sentence.


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