Here We Go Again: Sessions Discussed Trump Campaign Matters With Russian Ambassador, Contrary to Sworn Testimony

Time for your weekly Washington Post bombshell
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We already knew that Attorney General Jefferson Beauregard Sessions had uh, forgotten his meetings with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak during the Trump campaign, but today we find out that even when he finally copped to those meetings, he still wasn’t telling the whole truth.

Because it turns out that US intelligence agencies were monitoring Kislyak’s communications with Russia officials, and he told them he had indeed discussed campaign-related issues with Sessions.

Russia’s ambassador to Washington told his superiors in Moscow that he discussed campaign-related matters, including policy issues important to Moscow, with Jeff Sessions during the 2016 presidential race, contrary to public assertions by the embattled attorney general, according to current and former U.S. officials.

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One U.S. official said that Sessions — who testified that he has no recollection of an April encounter — has provided “misleading” statements that are “contradicted by other evidence.” A former official said that the intelligence indicates that Sessions and Kislyak had “substantive” discussions on matters including Trump’s positions on Russia-related issues and prospects for U.S.-Russia relations in a Trump administration.

Sessions has said repeatedly that he never discussed campaign-related issues with Russian officials and that it was only in his capacity as a U.S. Senator that he met with Kislyak.

“I never had meetings with Russian operatives or Russian intermediaries about the Trump campaign,” Sessions said in March when he announced that he would recuse himself from matters relating to the FBI probe of Russian interference in the election and any connections to the Trump campaign.

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168 comments

1
b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:24:22pm

I can’t believe that I am still using the word unbelievable.

I know what would happen in an honest administration but what happens in this one?

2
Cheechako  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:24:24pm

Just another typical Friday night.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:25:24pm

Look away, Beauregard, look away.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:26:04pm

But her emails!

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:26:12pm

Never happened. Obviously Kislyak was just lying to his bosses

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Myron Falwell  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:27:02pm

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions only wishes that Trump could fire his sorry butt.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:28:09pm

re: #6 Myron Falwell

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions only wishes that Trump could fire his sorry butt.

He’s sort of attracted to Lost Causes.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:28:16pm

Putin will eventually let the truth drip out but I don’t want to know it on his timeline.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:30:48pm

It seems like only yesterday that Sessions was acting all butthurt about people questioning his honor.

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ozharas  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:33:00pm

Minneapolis police chief resigns at Mayors request - this story is still dominating media here.

theguardian.com

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:33:04pm
Attorney General Jeff Sessions defended his honor before the Senate Intelligence Committee, rejecting the “appalling and detestable lie” that “I participated in any collusion that I was aware of, any collusion with the Russian government to hurt this country, which I have served with honor for 35 years, or to undermine the integrity of our democratic process.”

Lock him up!

reason.com
June 14

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:34:45pm

When does this shit ever end?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:34:56pm

re: #10 ozharas

Minneapolis police chief resigns at Mayors request - this story is still dominating media here.

theguardian.com

I hate to sound cynical but this is happening because the victim was white. I am glad there’s outcry of course but at the same time.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:35:19pm

re: #12 Ace Rothstein

When does this shit ever end?

When people stop voting for Republicans.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:35:49pm

It seems more and more like the Russians played the Trumpistas like a fiddle. They knew how these snakes would lie about meetings with Russian contacts, and are now in the process of slowly leaking the truth bit by bit to undermine not only Trump but the entire US political system.

Talk about a long game.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:36:44pm

re: #15 wheat-dogg

It seems more and more like the Russians played the Trumpistas like a fiddle. They knew how these snakes would lie about meetings with Russian contacts, and are now in the process of slowly leaking the truth bit by bit to undermine not only Trump but the entire US political system.

Talk about a long game.

Yep, that’s exactly what they wanted. To undermine the system. Trump and his friends were stupid enough to think the Russians actually liked them.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:36:45pm

re: #11 b.d. (bill d.)
Attorney General Jeff Sessions defended his honor before the Senate Intelligence Committee, rejecting the “appalling and detestable lie” that “I participated in any collusion that I was aware of, any collusion with the Russian government to hurt this country, which I have served with honor for 35 years, or to undermine the integrity of our democratic process.”

Lock him up!

reason.com
June 14

It really works if you read his statement in Foghorn Leghorn’s voice.

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ozharas  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:37:47pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

I’ve read enough on this site about police shootings in the US to completely agree with you.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:38:48pm

re: #17 Decatur Deb

Attorney General Jeff Sessions defended his honor before the Senate Intelligence Committee, rejecting the “appalling and detestable lie” that “I participated in any collusion that I was aware of, any collusion with the Russian government to hurt this country, which I have served with honor for 35 years, or to undermine the integrity of our democratic process.”

It really works if you read his statement in Foghorn Leghorn’s voice.

“I say, I say, suh, I reject the appalling and detesting lah that Ah participated in any colooshun with any Russians! I challenge you to a duel!”

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wheat-dogg  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:40:04pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Yep, that’s exactly what they wanted. To undermine the system. Trump and his friends were stupid enough to think the Russians actually liked them.

The Russians knew the Trumpistas’ weaknesses - greed and a desperate need for power.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:40:05pm

I’m more dumbfounded at the entire lack of thought about getting caught by our own intelligence agencies.

What did they think our intelligence agencies were doing? Especially Sessions should have known.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:41:29pm

re: #5 b.d. (bill d.)

Never happened. Obviously Kislyak was just lying to his bosses

He has obviously been subverted by the CIA/NSA/Fake media/Zionist conspiracy and should be packed off to the gulag at once.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:41:57pm

re: #21 b.d. (bill d.)

I’m more dumbfounded at the entire lack of thought about getting caught by our own intelligence agencies.

What did they think our intelligence agencies were doing? Especially Sessions should have known.

Yeah, as if the NSA, CIA and FBI never listen in on conversations between Russian operatives in the States and in Russia.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:41:58pm

re: #18 ozharas

I’ve read enough on this site about police shootings in the US to completely agree with you.

I mean don’t get me wrong. This is tragic and needs to be prosecuted but damn.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:42:16pm

re: #20 wheat-dogg

The Russians knew the Trumpistas’ weaknesses - greed and a desperate need for power.

Yep, they played them beautifully.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:42:55pm

In the end, the American right has many sectors of it that decided that Putin and Russia > Clinton, Obama, and the Dems.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:43:11pm

I’m so old, I remember when perjury would get you impeached.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:43:31pm

And this is because and not in spite of Putin’s religious based state homophobia, racism towards non whites, and hostility towards non Christians.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:43:55pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

I hate to sound cynical but this is happening because the victim was white. I am glad there’s outcry of course but at the same time.

You’re exactly right though.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:45:50pm

re: #20 wheat-dogg

The Russians knew the Trumpistas’ weaknesses - greed and a desperate need for power.

Ditto with most Republicans… and almost all elected Republicans.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:47:16pm

My wife and I are back from her ophthalmology appointment. She got the eye drops for a screening for her retina, due to diabetes.

Usually when you go to the eye doctor, you come out seeing, not blind. /s

Carried over from the last thread, because it’s dead.

huffingtonpost.com

Florida Teens Will Face Charges after Filming a Man Drowning in a Retention Pond and Uploading It to Social Media

Essentially, four teenagers last week filmed a disabled father of two drowning in a retention pond, and commented and laughed until he sank below the wastewater.

Initially, the sheriff did not bring charges though the teens were identified immediately, because he said there was nothing in Florida law he could charge them with.

The prosecutor did some digging, and came up with a law that applies to medical examiners, that requires reporting of a death to officials. The teens did not do that, the law is written as “persons” not medical examiners, so the prosecutor had them charged under that statute. He says this will be a test case for Florida.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:49:54pm

re: #15 wheat-dogg

It seems more and more like the Russians played the Trumpistas like a fiddle. They knew how these snakes would lie about meetings with Russian contacts, and are now in the process of slowly leaking the truth bit by bit to undermine not only Trump but the entire US political system.

Talk about a long game.

Russia didn’t play Trump like a fiddle, they played conservative politicians and voters like a fiddle. Any corrupt bigot would have done for them. Hell, if Steve Bannon had run, the GOP voters probably would have gone for him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:51:43pm

re: #29 GlutenFreeJesus

You’re exactly right though.

Yep, point that out in most other places and you get called racist though.

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Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:52:14pm

re: #12 Ace Rothstein

When does this shit ever end?

Never.

A kakistocracy (English pronunciation: /kækɪsˈtɑkɹəsi/) is a state or country run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens. The word was coined as early as 1600s. It was also used by English author Thomas Love Peacock in 1829.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:52:25pm
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Jay C  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:52:29pm

Some points:

1. The WaPo link deadends at their paywall: any way around this?

2. Much as I’d love to see ol’ Jeff get booted back to Alabama (if not Guantanamo) in disgrace, the WaPo “bombshell”, as linked, seems just a tad on the thin side. I mean, I’m sure it’s all true (I have exactly zero doubt-benefits to donate to this abominable Administration), but these allegations would look a lot better with something a little more substantial than “officials said” for attributions ( tho I know that’s not always possible).

3. I wonder what sort of Twitter ragegasm this is going to elicit from you-know-who: either a full-bore (lunatic) defense, or an excuse to fire Sessions’ sorry Confederate ass?

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fern01  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:52:51pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

I hate to sound cynical but this is happening because the victim was white. I am glad there’s outcry of course but at the same time.

Truth is not cynical - it also relates that the shooter was non-white.

That it happened could also be related to the victim being from Australia where you assume (correctly) that the police are not going to shoot you when you call for help.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:53:45pm

re: #37 fern01

Truth is not cynical - it also relates that the shooter was non-white.

That it happened could also be related to the victim being from Australia where you assume (correctly) that the police are not going to shoot you when you call for help.

There is that too. Man what an awful story. I hope I didn’t come off unsympathetic to the victim because believe me I am extremely sad for her family.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:55:07pm

There is no reason for Sessions to fall on his sword for Donnie, especially after the NYT interview. Thankfully Sessions is a sniveling, thin skinned, coward who should easily be turned.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:56:47pm

Anyone think the “US official” quoted in the WaPo story on Sessions is from the White House?

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fern01  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:57:13pm

re: #36 Jay C

Some points:

1. The WaPo link deadends at their paywall: any way around this?

I ended up paying the $19 for 12 months - seems this might be a well spent $19 at this point in time.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:57:17pm

re: #23 wheat-dogg

Yeah, as if the NSA, CIA and FBI never listen in on conversations between Russian operatives in the States and in Russia.

The hubris is unbelievable. I wonder where we would really be if Trump never fired Comey?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:58:21pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:59:04pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹

Russia didn’t play Trump like a fiddle, they played conservative politicians and voters like a fiddle. Any corrupt bigot would have done for them. Hell, if Steve Bannon had run, the GOP voters probably would have gone for him.

Maybe so, but they already knew Trump was especially malleable. He turned out to be a gift to the Russian operation.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:59:16pm

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹

My wife and I are back from her ophthalmology appointment. She got the eye drops for a screening for her retina, due to diabetes.

Usually when you go to the eye doctor, you come out seeing, not blind. /s

Carried over from the last thread, because it’s dead.

huffingtonpost.com

Florida Teens Will Face Charges after Filming a Man Drowning in a Retention Pond and Uploading It to Social Media

Essentially, four teenagers last week filmed a disabled father of two drowning in a retention pond, and commented and laughed until he sank below the wastewater.

Initially, the sheriff did not bring charges though the teens were identified immediately, because he said there was nothing in Florida law he could charge them with.

The prosecutor did some digging, and came up with a law that applies to medical examiners, that requires reporting of a death to officials. The teens did not do that, the law is written as “persons” not medical examiners, so the prosecutor had them charged under that statute. He says this will be a test case for Florida.

I’m glad the prosecutor dug around till he found a suitable statute. In Texas, failure to summon aid is a crime so they could have been charged here. Failure to render aid is also a crime if it can be shown that doing so would not be unduly hazardous. Too bad it’s not illegal to raise a pack of savages or the parents could be charged too.

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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:59:18pm

re: #40 Ace Rothstein

Anyone think the “US official” quoted in the WaPo story on Sessions is from the White House?

Could be Fuckface Von Clownstick himself!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:59:34pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

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So Sessions is the next person to meet the underside of Trump’s bus.

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fern01  Jul 21, 2017 • 4:59:40pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

There is that too. Man what an awful story. I hope I didn’t come off unsympathetic to the victim because believe me I am extremely sad for her family.

I didn’t read you as being unsympathetic. When I read the story about the police chief resigning my thought was WTF. Only in White America.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:00:00pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

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Trump outed Sessions? Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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majii  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:00:04pm

re: #21 b.d. (bill d.)

“What did they think our intelligence agencies were doing? Especially Sessions should have known.”

Based on what I’ve witnessed in watching Sessions operate for years, it wouldn’t surprise me if he thinks he’s above the law because, after all, he is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, and in Alabama, that means something. Sessions has been a fraud for years, and most voters in Alabama still think he’s an honorable man. Imagine that!

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wheat-dogg  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:01:38pm

re: #36 Jay C

Some points:

1. The WaPo link deadends at their paywall: any way around this?

Paste the headline into a Google search field. That usually evades the paywall.

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Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:01:44pm

re: #49 b.d. (bill d.)

Trump outed Sessions? Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Trump gets a new AG who will be “loyal” to Trump. New AG fires Mueller.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:02:19pm

re: #49 b.d. (bill d.)

Trump outed Sessions? Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Yeah I’m not entirely sure I buy it. Probably more like someone inside the White House leaked it thinking it might help distract from their own bad news *cough*JaredKushner*cough*

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fern01  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:03:52pm

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

Yeah I’m not entirely sure I buy it. Probably more like someone inside the White House leaked it thinking it might help distract from their own bad news *cough*JaredKushner*cough*

Much more likely. Doubt trump would know (he doesn’t read/listen to any reports) - and he would consider it a plus not a firing issue.

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Ming5000  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:04:05pm

re: #52 Skip Intro

Hopefully the Senate will not confirm any nominee and Rosenstein remains as acting head.

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wrenchwench  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:04:54pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

So Sessions is the next person to meet the underside of Trump’s bus.

Kislyak may have his own bus. Trump may meet it.

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Kragar  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:05:02pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:05:06pm

re: #55 Ming5000

Hopefully the Senate will not confirm any nominee and Rosenstein remains as acting head.

You’ll just love AG Spicer…

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Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:05:13pm

re: #55 Ming5000

I’m way past hopefully, unfortunately.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:05:14pm

re: #48 fern01

I didn’t read you as being unsympathetic. When I read the story about the police chief resigning my thought was WTF. Only in White America.

Yeah I just wanted to make it clear.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:05:33pm

re: #56 wrenchwench

Kislyak may have his own bus. Trump may meet it.

It’s going to be interesting when that time comes.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:06:18pm

re: #55 Ming5000

Hopefully the Senate will not confirm any nominee and Rosenstein remains as acting head.

That would be just as right. It’s obvious that Trump wants his own man heading up the investigation.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:07:13pm

So I guess Hillary set up Sessions too?

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Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:07:14pm

re: #56 wrenchwench

Kislyak may have his own bus. Trump may meet it.

Trump is a Kremlin supporting chaos agent who is doing a fine job. There’s no reason for the Russians to want him gone.

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Kragar  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:07:22pm
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kirkspencer  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:08:00pm

re: #52 Skip Intro

So I find myself wondering - if Trump is behind the releases - if he’s doing it to build justification for firing Sessions.

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Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:08:36pm

re: #65 Kragar

As Rand Paul said, “why would we go after a Republican?”

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Myron Falwell  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:08:56pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

Could be Fuckface Von Clownstick himself!

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Donnie’s out of his element.

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Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:09:42pm

re: #68 Myron Falwell

Donnie’s out of his element.

Bannon isn’t.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:10:54pm

re: #66 kirkspencer

So I find myself wondering - if Trump is behind the releases - if he’s doing it to build justification for firing Sessions.

You and millions of other people.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:11:59pm

re: #68 Myron Falwell

Donnie’s out of his element.

Donnie’s AG replacement might as well be a red-shirted Star Trek guy, he’s toast.

May I suggest Ted Cruz or John Cornyn?

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majii  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:12:34pm

re: #48 fern01

“I didn’t read you as being unsympathetic. When I read the story about the police chief resigning my thought was WTF. Only in White America.”

Neither did I, fern. I read it as business as unusual in America. It’s a shame, but it’s so true that millions of Americans think the lives of some of us are more valuable than others’ lives. What I’ve noticed about Ms. Damond’s case is that no one on the Right side of the political divide is blaming her for her own death, calling her a thug, or saying other disparaging things about her, but when George Zimmerman gunned down Trayvon Martin, many on the Right blamed the poor child for his own demise. There was no sympathy expressed for him, and he was a child.

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Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:13:01pm

re: #70 Myron Falwell

You and millions of other people.

We’ll know for sure when Fox turns on Sessions.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:13:26pm

re: #71 b.d. (bill d.)

Donnie’s AG replacement might as well be a red-shirted Star Trek guy, he’s toast.

May I suggest Ted Cruz or John Cornyn?

The Senate would confirm Cruz just to get him out of there.

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Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:14:03pm

re: #71 b.d. (bill d.)

Donnie’s AG replacement might as well be a red-shirted Star Trek guy, he’s toast.

May I suggest Ted Cruz or John Cornyn?

How’s that work? Did the GOP just lose their Senate majority?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:14:15pm

So, the premise they would like you to accept is that he, sort of, “misplaced/forgot about” 77 separate things, valued at over $1 million each.
I don’t know about all of you, but I get pretty damn perplexed when I find mystery cash floating around in the dryer.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:14:50pm

Impeaching Clinton was never about a blowjob perjury it was always about perjury the blowjob

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:15:23pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart

So, the premise they would like you to accept is that he, sort of, “misplaced/forgot about” 77 separate things, valued at over $1 million each.
I don’t know about all of you, but I get pretty damn perplexed when I find mystery cash floating around in the dryer.

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Awfully convenient.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:16:31pm

re: #75 Skip Intro

How’s that work? Did the GOP just lose their Senate majority?

Gov. Abbott would pick the replacement for either one. And the race would be the GOP’s to lose.

It’s why Sessions was picked in the first place.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:18:10pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart

So, the premise they would like you to accept is that he, sort of, “misplaced/forgot about” 77 separate things, valued at over $1 million each.
I don’t know about all of you, but I get pretty damn perplexed when I find mystery cash floating around in the dryer.

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Who among us hasn’t forgotten 77 assets worth over $100 million from time to time?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:18:10pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:18:49pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Who among us hasn’t forgotten 77 assets worth over $100 million from time to time?

I think I’m forgetting mine right now.

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Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:19:02pm

How about some good Ken Ham news? Looks like Ken got caught trying to pull a fast one to keep his sinking Ark Park afloat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:19:02pm

PREDICTION: Sessions is fired by this time next week.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:20:02pm

re: #84 Eclectic Cyborg

PREDICTION: Sessions is fired by this time next week.

Yeah I expect it to happen sometime the first week when I’m abroad.

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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:20:10pm

re: #84 Eclectic Cyborg

PREDICTION: Sessions is fired by this time next week.

Unless he fires Mueller, which I think is a distinct possibility.

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Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:20:28pm

re: #79 Myron Falwell

Where does Gov. Abbott fit in all of this?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:20:52pm

re: #86 teleskiguy

Unless he fires Mueller, which I think is a distinct possibility.

I thought he couldn’t because he recused himself? Or are you talking about Trump trying to fire Mueller?

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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:21:30pm

re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought he couldn’t because he recused himself?

Can Rosenstein fire Mueller?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:21:31pm

re: #10 ozharas

Minneapolis police chief resigns at Mayors request - this story is still dominating media here.

theguardian.com

But why wasn’t this done when Philando Castillo was shot and killed?

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wheat-dogg  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:21:40pm

re: #84 Eclectic Cyborg

PREDICTION: Sessions is fired by this time next week.

I think he may resign over the weekend.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:22:13pm

re: #89 teleskiguy

Can Rosenstein fire Mueller?

Yes, but I don’t think the Yam can force him to do it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:22:20pm

re: #89 teleskiguy

Can Rosenstein fire Mueller?

I think so. Better question is will he.

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Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:22:26pm

re: #89 teleskiguy

Can Rosenstein fire Mueller?

Yes.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:23:58pm

re: #84 Eclectic Cyborg

PREDICTION: Sessions is fired by this time next week.

Why? So far there have been no consequences for the many lies of Trump and his sycophants to the best of my recollection.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:23:59pm

re: #83 Skip Intro

How about some good Ken Ham news? Looks like Ken got caught trying to pull a fast one to keep his sinking Ark Park afloat.

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lol, criminal bastards

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:24:07pm

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

But why wasn’t this done when Philando Castillo was shot and killed?

Because black guy… but we all knew that.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:27:10pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Who among us hasn’t forgotten 77 assets worth over $100 million from time to time?

It is obliviously tied to those Federal Reserve accounts that the government secures cash in against your “legal entity” that is all the SovCit’s have been trying to tell us about all these years…
//

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Stanley Sea  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:28:25pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:28:31pm

re: #83 Skip Intro

How about some good Ken Ham news? Looks like Ken got caught trying to pull a fast one to keep his sinking Ark Park afloat.

[Embedded content]

Maybe the Commonwealth can seize the wooden wonder and auction it off to recoup some of the fraudulent tax breaks. If I were a billionaire, I would buy it, disassemble it, transport it to the Ohio River and convert it into a floating gay bar and casino (assuming that it could be made to float).

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:28:40pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Who among us hasn’t forgotten 77 assets worth over $100 million from time to time?

Hey, if he’s forgotten them, I’d be happy to take custody of some of them, to, uhh… keep track of them for him.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:29:19pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart

So you get to amend this statement indefinitely? Really? That’s how it works?

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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:29:37pm

The replies to Scaramucci’s tweet are pretty funny.

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Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:30:03pm

re: #102 Patricia Kayden

So you get to amend this statement indefinitely? Really? That’s how it works?

I’ve lost track of how many times he’s already amended it. Can somebody help me out here?

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:30:54pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

It is obliviously tied to those Federal Reserve accounts that the government secures cash in against your “legal entity” that is all the SovCit’s have been trying to tell us about all these years…
//

Closest I’ve come is a $54 refund check I got recently from a car dealer. It was for an overcharge on the taxes and fees I paid on my Dodge van back in 2004.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:32:22pm

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Closest I’ve come is a $54 refund check I got recently from a car dealer. It was for an overcharge on the taxes and fees I paid on my Dodge van back in 2004.

I particularly like the $0.99 I got the State of Indiana to refund me for some pricing error they made on vehicle registrations years ago that belatedly got corrected.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:33:16pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

That one almost put me on the floor Charlie…. you might well win that thread.

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Jay C  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:34:59pm

re: #87 Skip Intro

Where does Gov. Abbott fit in all of this?

State Governors appoint the replacements for US Senators who do not complete their terms, for whatever reason. Unless otherwise specified, I think Texas is one of the majority of states that require the replacement Senator to stand for reelection at the next General Election to serve out (if reelected) the remainder of the original Senator’s term.

It’s Texas: G8d knows what awful wingnut Abbott might appoint - Senator Louie Gohmert, anyone?

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Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:36:09pm

re: #108 Jay C

Who besides McCain isn’t going to complete their term? I’m confused.

Are we assuming Trump will appoint Cruz to be AG? Hell, why not Lumpy? Why not Alex Jones?

The GOP would approve any of them.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:36:25pm

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹

At the very least, they could have called 9/11 since it appears that he was way out in the pond and perhaps they couldn’t swim. Sick that they’d laugh at his death and post his drowning to social media. Heartless.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:36:54pm
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Myron Falwell  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:38:17pm

re: #84 Eclectic Cyborg

PREDICTION: Sessions is fired by this time next week.

I actually don’t think Sessions will be fired. Trump wants to humiliate Sessions into quitting, or at least show him who’s the real boss.

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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:40:22pm

re: #107 Dave In Austin

This one cracked me up. It’s dark, though.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:42:39pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart

Oh god, not Scott Dworkin again…

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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:43:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:43:34pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:43:36pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

PRES. TRUMP: *hand shoots up confidently*
REST OF ROOM: Sit down and shut up, Donnie!

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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:47:10pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:48:07pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:49:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:49:37pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

FNC is trying to blame Spicer’s departure on CNN too. But yeah it’s disgusting how these assholes get rewarded.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:51:09pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

FNC is trying to blame Spicer’s departure on CNN too. But yeah it’s disgusting how these assholes get rewarded.

They need to get their facts right. Clearly Spicer’s termination is Obama’s fault.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:51:31pm

re: #122 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They need to get their facts right. Clearly Spicer’s termination is Obama’s fault.

No, you’re wrong. It was Hillary.

124
teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:52:38pm
125
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:52:50pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

No, you’re wrong. It was Hillary.

Somewhere in Hillary’s emails is a latent message triggering Spicer’s firing. Just you wait.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:53:19pm

re: #125 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Somewhere in Hillary’s emails is a latent message triggering Spicer’s firing. Just you wait.

Killary killed Spiecer’s career!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:53:30pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

Killary killed Spiecer’s career!

CLINTON BODY COUNT!!!

DRINK!!!

128
Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:56:11pm

Meanwhile >35% of America still supports this Calamity.

We are in for a rough 20 years.

129
fern01  Jul 21, 2017 • 5:56:23pm

Bring in a GOPer to comment at MSNBC - and he equates Trump to Bill Clinton - so lying about sex is the same as colluding with Russia.

130
HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:01:26pm

re: #129 fern01

Bring in a GOPer to comment at MSNBC - and he equates Trump to Bill Clinton - so lying about sex is the same as colluding with Russia.

Typical.

131
CleverToad  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:02:33pm

Hmmm, will they try to boot Sessions to distract us all from the looming Trumpdontcare vote, or will they hold off and do it to distract us from the results of the vote?

I don’t think even Trump’s team would try to fire Mueller before the vote, but I could always be wrong on that.

Are we taking bets yet?

The Russia crap is appalling, but there’s hope Mueller’s bulldogs will get to the root of it. The healthcare mess has me awake at nights in terror.

EDIT: for Brother O & Brother B who keep reminding us not to give in to despair — keep preaching, guys, I need the reminders.

132
Stanley Sea  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:06:00pm

re: #131 CleverToad

Agreed.

133
Amory Blaine  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:13:52pm

IDK, I’m like meh over Spicey’s exit. Seems kind of normal, even in this chaotic admin.

134
MsJ  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:14:16pm

re: #15 wheat-dogg

It seems more and more like the Russians played the Trumpistas like a fiddle. They knew how these snakes would lie about meetings with Russian contacts, and are now in the process of slowly leaking the truth bit by bit to undermine not only Trump but the entire US political system.

Talk about a long game.

OR… Someone tied to Trump leaked it so there’s an excuse to fire Sessions to instill a new AG who hasn’t recused himself and can tell Mueller to take a hike.

Not to go all CT and such but trust is low. Everywhere.

135
BeachDem  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:15:52pm

re: #134 MsJ

OR… Someone tied to Trump leaked it so there’s an excuse to fire Sessions to instill a new AG who hasn’t recused himself and can tell Mueller to take a hike.

Not to go all CT and such but trust is low. Everywhere.

Question—if he gets rid of Sessions, can he make a recess appointment that doesn’t need confirmation?

136
William Lewis  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:16:34pm

re: #10 ozharas

Minneapolis police chief resigns at Mayors request - this story is still dominating media here.

theguardian.com

It won’t make any difference. The two cops were “scared” by fireworks < spit > so their murder of a civilian will be excused.

137
MsJ  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:18:23pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹

Russia didn’t play Trump like a fiddle, they played conservative politicians and voters like a fiddle. Any corrupt bigot would have done for them. Hell, if Steve Bannon had run, the GOP voters probably would have gone for him.

Some. But not as many. Trump had a reputation. And a personality. All bullshit of course but there nonetheless. Bannon wouldn’t have won. Trump won in his name and celebrity.

138
De Kolta Chair  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:20:39pm

Forgive me for not remembering if the commedia dell’arte character Scaramucci is depicted in the painting below on the left or the right.

139
MsJ  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:22:50pm

re: #40 Ace Rothstein

Anyone think the “US official” quoted in the WaPo story on Sessions is from the White House?

Seems I’m later to the party vis my last comment. And it seems less a CT than I thought.

140
Charles Johnson  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:23:10pm
141
Jebediah, RBG  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:23:20pm

re: #100 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Maybe the Commonwealth can seize the wooden wonder and auction it off to recoup some of the fraudulent tax breaks. If I were a billionaire, I would buy it, disassemble it, transport it to the Ohio River and convert it into a floating gay bar and casino (assuming that it could be made to float).

It’s already got the rainbow lights!

142
FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:24:11pm
143
FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:26:27pm

Everyone needs a Friday night smile

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:27:52pm
145
Charles Johnson  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:28:16pm
146
Unshaken Defiance  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:28:54pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Authoritarian/constitutional crisis is right. Like nothing else in the modern era.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:29:16pm

re: #143 FormerDirtDart

Everyone needs a Friday night smile

Cute as hell, and I bet they do their part by watering those lovely plants.

On second thought, maybe not the “wee” one.

148
wheat-dogg  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:29:20pm

re: #100 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Maybe the Commonwealth can seize the wooden wonder and auction it off to recoup some of the fraudulent tax breaks. If I were a billionaire, I would buy it, disassemble it, transport it to the Ohio River and convert it into a floating gay bar and casino (assuming that it could be made to float).

Judging from pictures of its construction, it does not have a complete hull, and was never intended to be seaworthy. Plus, there was a notable lack of the magical gopherwood needed to build a floating zoo.

But, it could be reassembled on a barge to join all the other floating “riverboat” casinos on the Ohio, which never actually cruise the river but are permanently moored in their home ports. Amazing little loophole in the casino gambling laws of those states.

A far better use would be to reuse the lumber to build Habitat houses, instead of immortalizing Ken Ham’s monument to his own vanity.

149
Charles Johnson  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:33:02pm
150
FormerDirtDart  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:34:49pm
151
nowherenorth2  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:36:33pm

re: #77 b.d. (bill d.)

Late reply b.d.

Would you say the republicans were jealous of what bill Clinton received?

Bad joke. But I can see it being true.

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MsJ  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:37:06pm

re: #135 BeachDem

Question—if he gets rid of Sessions, can he make a recess appointment that doesn’t need confirmation?

At this point no one is stopping anything so… Anything goes apparently.

153
Charles Johnson  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:38:44pm
154
nowherenorth2  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:42:48pm

Good god. This really never ends with this admin and these people

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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:44:39pm

Shade.

Facebook Post

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:44:48pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

157
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:46:02pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

That is an astounding graph.

158
sauceruney  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:46:16pm

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹

Essentially, four teenagers last week filmed a disabled father of two drowning in a retention pond, and commented and laughed until he sank below the wastewater.

Those teens were named Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Donald Trump, and Mike Pence. The drowning man is our democracy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:46:33pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

BUTBUTBUT HILLARY WON CALIFORNIA, THAT MEANS THAT THE DEMOCRATS WERE RIGGING THE VOTE!!! TRUMP WON THE POPULAR VOTE!!!!!!!

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ipsos  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:47:20pm

re: #158 sauceruney

Those girls were named Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Donald Trump, and Mike Pence. The drowning man is our democracy.

This is about the point at which I feel like I have to leave the Internets for a while and go take a very long shower and have a very long cry for the state of the world.

161
De Kolta Chair  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:50:05pm

re: #155 teleskiguy

Shade.

Seanny, we hardly knew ye.

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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:50:32pm
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sauceruney  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:52:44pm

re: #160 ipsos

Sorry about that.

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ipsos  Jul 21, 2017 • 6:53:53pm

re: #163 sauceruney

It’s not your fault. It’s just one crazy world we live in.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2017 • 7:05:26pm

re: #135 BeachDem

Question—if he gets rid of Sessions, can he make a recess appointment that doesn’t need confirmation?

en.wikipedia.org

No, unless the Senate goes into recess for more than three days.

The appointment must be approved by the end of the next Senate session, or the appointment ends.

166
Myron Falwell  Jul 21, 2017 • 7:09:45pm

re: #165 Anymouse 🌹

en.wikipedia.org

No, unless the Senate goes into recess for more than three days.

The appointment must be approved by the end of the next Senate session, or the appointment ends.

And remember that Turtle Fucker McConnell is trying to delay the summer recess until he can strip away healthcare from 32M+ people.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2017 • 7:12:49pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

So looking at that chart, the Republicans started drifting off the chart when Ronald Reagan and his Christian Coalition and Moral Majority fans took the White House.

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retired cynic  Jul 21, 2017 • 7:14:32pm

re: #165 Anymouse 🌹

en.wikipedia.org

No, unless the Senate goes into recess for more than three days.

The appointment must be approved by the end of the next Senate session, or the appointment ends.

Mitch would do that for him. No shame.


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