Video: Jared Kushner Speaks at White House After Senate Intelligence Meeting

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There are no surprises here unless you were expecting Jared Kushner to come out and admit everything, which just isn’t how the Trump gang rolls. He basically denies ever doing anything wrong, attacks Trump’s critics, and then walks away without taking any questions from reporters; in other words, exactly what we expected.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:27:11am
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:28:28am
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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:28:49am

Who hasn’t misplaced a billion dollars?

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:31:25am
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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:33:00am
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wrenchwench  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:33:53am

re: #3 jaunte

Who hasn’t misplaced a billion dollars?

I think it’s in my other pants.

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VegasGolfer  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:34:49am
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:36:48am

OMG! OMG! OMG!

From Oct. 2012

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2012/10/08/obama-com-owned-by-bundler-in-china-with-business-ties-to-chinese-government/

Addition: Bet they thought that was an impeachable offense then.

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BeachDem  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:41:15am

A pretty good analysis of Jared’s statement.

dailykos.com

Ends with this recap:

Overall, Kushner clearly wants to present the image of someone totally overwhelmed by the number of emails and meetings that would be dealt with by a mid-level projected manager designing a cat toy app. He got emails. And he didn’t have time to read them—especially multiple emails sent to Kushner under the title “Russia - Clinton - private and confidential.”

And everything Jared Kushner stated had one clear message—don’t blame Jared Kushner.

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makeitstop  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:43:11am

These dopes need a proofreader. Desperately.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:43:47am

The heraldry department is still working on the presidential son-in-law seal.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:45:47am

re: #10 makeitstop

These dopes need a proofreader. Desperately.

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They also used Sarah Huckabee’s old title, not her new one.

Good job Mooch!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:46:58am

re: #11 jaunte

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The heraldry department is still working on the presidential son-in-law seal.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:49:44am

re: #5 Kragar

“According to conservative estimates, there are now around 2.6 million hogs in Texas, more than anywhere else in the United States. Their foraging causes about $52 million in annual agricultural damage…”
texasobserver.org

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:52:54am

re: #14 jaunte

So each hog is only eating about 20 bucks worth of food?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:52:58am

re: #14 jaunte

“According to conservative estimates, there are now around 2.6 million hogs in Texas, more than anywhere else in the United States. Their foraging causes about $52 million in annual agricultural damage…”
texasobserver.org

I know there’s wild boars in the forest right outside my apartment building - I can hear them early in the morning. I saw one a few weeks back from my balcony. It came out of the woods and poked around for a minute or two near the walking path then disappeared back into the treeline. I’ve also seen deer do the same thing.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:53:13am

re: #10 makeitstop

These dopes need a proofreader. Desperately.

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I guess we can breathe a sigh of relief that it wasn’t West Vagina.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:54:41am

re: #15 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

They eat just about anything, so the majority of their diet is probably not commercial ag products.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:55:40am

re: #17 Barefoot Grin

I can’t think of a platform that doesn’t highlight a typo. My phone does it, all the programs on my computers do it. Anytime I misspell something, it gets highlighted.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:56:10am

E-mail received from the VFW. I did my part to oppose privatisation of VA healthcare by calling my representative. Amazingly, I got through.

Oppose Gradual Privatization of VA Health Care

Background: Congressional leaders have continually promised that they have no intent to privatize the VA health care system and do not intend to gradually erode VA’s ability to provide care in favor of sending veterans to private sector doctors. VA cannot be everything to everyone and private sector doctors must be used to supplement VA doctors when VA facilities are too far or appointment wait times are too long. However, the House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on S.114, which would ignore the needs of the VA health care system and use funds from VA programs to “pay for” private sector care.

For the upcoming Coen Bros. casting call, the Midwest Theatre in Scottsbluff now has the info up on their Website. We’ll be going, since y’all talked my wife into it.

midwesttheater.com

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BroncD  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:01:43am

TWABITWLink

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:05:14am
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:06:37am

re: #22 jaunte

“The best way to run a country is to ignore any news you don’t like.”

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:06:59am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:07:04am

re: #16 Dr Lizardo

I know there’s wild boars in the forest right outside my apartment building - I can hear them early in the morning. I saw one a few weeks back from my balcony. It came out of the woods and poked around for a minute or two near the walking path then disappeared back into the treeline. I’ve also seen deer do the same thing.

They are a blight on the landscape all over central Europe.

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KGxvi  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:08:19am

re: #23 Belafon

“The best way to run a country is to ignore any news you don’t like.”

It works so well in business! And when it stops working you either sell your business to the highest bidder or you buy the competition and make whatever they were doing what you’re doing. Can’t understand why that wouldn’t work for government!

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:08:58am

re: #5 Kragar

Okay, Blake. My sabre skills are a little rusty but from the looks of it a decent thrust, parry or riposte is beyond you.

Hell, I suspect that I’ll just have to keep out of range for a minute and you’ll fall to the ground wheezing.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:09:04am

re: #22 jaunte

Mark Meadows says HFC introducing amendment to minibus to cut CBO’s staff by 89 people, move to think-tank aggregation model (!!!)

— Niv Elis

Link?

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KGxvi  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:10:11am

re: #27 Romantic Heretic

Okay, Blake. My sabre skills are a little rusty but from the looks of it a decent thrust, parry or riposte is beyond you.

Hell, I suspect that I’ll just have to keep out of range for a minute and you’ll fall to the ground wheezing.

Sabres? What is this? That unamerican game of hockey? No, sir, here we duel the way God intended - with pistols!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:11:39am

Watching Jared Kushner give a presser today is reminiscent of a “bring your kid to work” day.

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lawhawk  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:11:43am

Poor boy Kushner is so put upon for having all this work for which he is entirely unqualified to do and yet he’s still attending meetings unquestionably.

Trump told him he’s in charge of everything and he doesn’t know what he’s doing. It’s someone else’s fault he attended a meeting that he went and left off of all his SF-86 filings.

Each time he leaves something off the SF-86, that’s an act or omission in violation of 18 USC 1001. It says it right there on the form. You don’t get a do-over, let alone 3 do-overs.

This crapweasel is up to his same tricks, and shouldn’t help him one bit. If anyone else did what he did, they’d have all lost their security clearance by now, let alone their job.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:12:12am

re: #28 Sir John Barron

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:13:48am

re: #28 Sir John Barron

Link?

talkingpointsmemo.com

A new front has opened in Republican’s war on the Congressional Budget Office—the non-partisan agency currently run by a conservative Republican appointee that crunches the numbers on major legislation like the repeal of the Affordable Care Act.

In a speech at the National Press Club on Monday, Freedom Caucus chair Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) announced that another member of the hardline conservative group will attempt to shoehorn an amendment into the current federal budget negotiation that would strip the Congressional Budget Office of 15 million dollars in funding and 89 of its staff members.

“For the first time in 35-plus years, there will be a rule that will be used this week called the Holman Rule,” Meadows said. “It gives us the tool to actually go in and cut the funding without cutting an entire agency.”

(more at the link)

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dangerman  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:14:32am

re: #29 KGxvi

Sabres? What is this? That unamerican game of hockey? No, sir, here we duel the way God intended - with pistols!

foil, belgian grip

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KGxvi  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:15:12am

re: #32 jaunte

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For the record: despite the name, I’ve no relation to Morgan.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:16:24am

re: #25 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are a blight on the landscape all over central Europe.

Yes. And a radioactive blight at that, at least in some parts of Central Europe.

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lawhawk  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:16:28am
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dangerman  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:16:48am

re: #32 jaunte

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because “aggregating” or averaging is the same as ‘accurate’

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:16:54am

re: #29 KGxvi

Sabres? What is this? That unamerican game of hockey? No, sir, here we duel the way God intended - with pistols!

Axe duel or no duel at all.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:17:15am

re: #37 lawhawk

Now we can end reconciliation as well.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:17:22am

re: #29 KGxvi

Sabres? What is this? That unamerican game of hockey? No, sir, here we duel the way God intended - with pistols!

I’m cool with that. He’s a much bigger target than I am, and I’m a pretty good shot.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:18:26am

re: #39 Kragar

Axe duel or no duel at all.

Hattori Hanzo’s FTW!!!

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KGxvi  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:18:41am

re: #36 Dr Lizardo

Yes. And a radioactive blight at that, at least in some parts of Central Europe.

Archer - Piggly 3.

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No Depression  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:18:52am

re: #32 jaunte

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How about we abolish the GOP instead?

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makeitstop  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:19:03am

re: #39 Kragar

Axe duel or no duel at all.

Handcuffs and Buck knives.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:19:39am

re: #45 makeitstop

Handcuffs and Buck knives.

brickbats at 20 paces

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:20:49am

re: #31 lawhawk

Poor boy Kushner is so put upon for having all this work for which he is entirely unqualified to do and yet he’s still attending meetings unquestionably.

Trump told him he’s in charge of everything and he doesn’t know what he’s doing. It’s someone else’s fault he attended a meeting that he went and left off of all his SF-86 filings.

Each time he leaves something off the SF-86, that’s an act or omission in violation of 18 USC 1001. It says it right there on the form. You don’t get a do-over, let alone 3 do-overs.

This crapweasel is up to his same tricks, and shouldn’t help him one bit. If anyone else did what he did, they’d have all lost their security clearance by now, let alone their job.

Well, the SF-86 does actually allow updates, because no one is perfect and may not remember that casual conversation with a person they had in Paris that later turned out to be a foreign agent or something.

That said, leaving out an entire meeting full of foreigners, including government officials, is a bit beyond the pale.

I’m not an alleged multi-bazillionarie, so the one meeting I had with a foreign official (an MEP of the EU) sticks out pretty clear with me. But I think I would remember a whole room full of foreigners in a meeting in a building my father owns that was allegedly arranged by friends.

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William Lewis  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:21:41am

re: #16 Dr Lizardo

I know there’s wild boars in the forest right outside my apartment building - I can hear them early in the morning. I saw one a few weeks back from my balcony. It came out of the woods and poked around for a minute or two near the walking path then disappeared back into the treeline. I’ve also seen deer do the same thing.

We used to love having wild boars at the gunnery ranges at Grafenwöhr when I was stationed in the 1st Armored Division in 83-84. Of course, the German game wardens were never happy with us but when they went running across the range, almost every tank would open fire with their .50 cal machine gun ;) Still had our own Army cooks in those days too - very tasty what they could do with a pig.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:22:48am

re: #48 William Lewis

We used to love having wild boars at the gunnery ranges at Grafenwöhr when I was stationed in the 1st Armored Division in 83-84. Of course, the German game wardens were never happy with us but when they went running across the range, almost every tank would open fire with their .50 cal machine gun ;) Still had our own Army cooks in those days too - very tasty what they could do with a pig.

wild boar bratwurst is quite a delicacy

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:23:06am

re: #32 jaunte

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These shitstains. The CBO didn’t give them bad information. It scored the ACA as it was written with EVERYONE DOING WHAT WAS EXPECTED. Then some fucknut repub govs DIDN”T DO WHAT WAS EXPECTED TO BE DONE.

Architect designs a massive structure, auditor reviews the plan and says it will work. Plan calls for 50 pillars to hold up the structure. 20 pillar manufactures decide they are not going to build the pillars. Building goes up without the pillars, starts to become unstable.

These shitstains want to blame the auditor for passing the plan rather than the 20 assholes that DIDN”T BUILD THE FUCKING PILLARS.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:23:45am

Trump to speak to 40,000 at Boy Scouts gathering:

And this so-called investigation, total witch hunt. Total. Call your congressman. Tell ‘em to leave me alone. Also healthcare. Call ‘em. And this sleazy congressman who keeps bashing me on TV about “Russia”. Total loser. I won. Did you see my electoral college vote?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:23:55am

re: #5 Kragar

Gee, he seems nice. Good thing he actually didn’t call for a duel, since that is illegal.

And citing Aaron Burr? There’s a real American hero.

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:24:15am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:28:55am

Swiss Chainsaw Massacree!!!

Police are hunting for a man who attacked five people with a chainsaw in the Swiss town of Schaffhausen.
Franz Wrousis is alleged to have launched his assault at a health insurance office shortly after 10:30 local time (08:30 GMT).

Police say the 51-year-old, who lives in the woods, is dangerous and believed to be still armed with the chainsaw.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:29:22am

haha

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:30:08am

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹

Gee, he seems nice. Good thing he actually didn’t call for a duel, since that is illegal.

And citing Aaron Burr? There’s a real American hero.

Is he clever enough that’s a subtle reference to Hamilton and the RWNJ “boycott” thereof?

Nah. He just lucked into that one.

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:30:57am

re: #19 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I can’t think of a platform that doesn’t highlight a typo. My phone does it, all the programs on my computers do it. Anytime I misspell something, it gets highlighted.

Highlighting doesn’t mean anything if the spellchecker isn’t loaded with all the words, etc.

I’m not sure what spellchecker Charles uses here, but it oftentimes highlights a word that is correct but must not be in the database.

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:31:14am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:31:41am

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹

If you don’t produce numbers favorable to our policy we will whine and lie about you and cut your funding.

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dangerman  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:34:44am

re: #50 Eventual Carrion

These shitstains. The CBO didn’t give them bad information. It scored the ACA as it was written with EVERYONE DOING WHAT WAS EXPECTED. Then some fucknut repub govs DIDN”T DO WHAT WAS EXPECTED TO BE DONE.

Architect designs a massive structure, auditor reviews the plan and says it will work. Plan calls for 50 pillars to hold up the structure. 20 pillar manufactures decide they are not going to build the pillars. Building goes up without the pillars, starts to become unstable.

These shitstains want to blame the auditor for passing the plan rather than the 20 assholes that DIDN”T BUILD THE FUCKING PILLARS.

not enough updings

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:35:26am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:38:53am

re: #58 sagehen

BUT DOES IT INCLUDE SINGLE PAYER?!?!??!?!?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:39:08am

re: #22 jaunte

Fuckers.

I knew they’d find a way to take down CBO.

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EPR-radar  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:40:39am

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

Fuckers.

I knew they’d find a way to take down CBO.

Every aspect of reality that is inconvenient for the RWNJ dogma of the day is to be denied/ignored.

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:41:09am
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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:42:47am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:45:13am

re: #66 Kragar

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And as a result of the sabotage they get to claim that the CBO was off in its predictions and now sabotage it. I need to go for a run or something. I’m about to scream.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:45:18am

re: #57 ObserverArt

Highlighting doesn’t mean anything if the spellchecker isn’t loaded with all the words, etc.

I’m not sure what spellchecker Charles uses here, but it oftentimes highlights a word that is correct but must not be in the database.

As far as I know, the spell check function is a function of the browser, not LGF. (If I click on one of the words to “add to dictionary,” the result is my browser dictionary opens.)

Since my browser dictionary is set to Canadian English, it doesn’t highlight “centre” but does highlight “center” and such.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:45:49am

re: #66 Kragar

Glad to see this getting more coverage.

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:47:59am
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wrenchwench  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:48:10am
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TedStriker  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:51:32am

re: #51 Sir John Barron

Trump to speak to 40,000 at Boy Scouts gathering:

And this so-called investigation, total witch hunt. Total. Call your congressman. Tell ‘em to leave me alone. Also healthcare. Call ‘em. And this sleazy congressman who keeps bashing me on TV about “Russia”. Total loser. I won. Did you see my electoral college vote?

As an Eagle Scout and as a Scouter, I’m embarrassed as hell.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:51:34am

re: #71 wrenchwench

It’s like pizza crashed into My Little Ponies and fused with them.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:51:35am
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sagehen  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:51:42am
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:51:50am

re: #53 Kragar

Will the GOP abolish the IMF next?

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dangerman  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:52:26am

re: #71 wrenchwench

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didnt see no pineapple

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:53:16am

re: #77 dangerman

didnt see no pineapple

Just an oversight, I’m sure

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KGxvi  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:53:36am

re: #58 sagehen

This is an interesting bit from Schumer’s op-ed:

Right now our antitrust laws are designed to allow huge corporations to merge, padding the pockets of investors but sending costs skyrocketing for everything from cable bills and airline tickets to food and health care. We are going to fight to allow regulators to break up big companies if they’re hurting consumers and to make it harder for companies to merge if it reduces competition.

But I think he gets it slightly wrong. In the 90s - after the Clinton Administration challenged Microsoft - a consensus arose to mostly ignore enforcement of the Sherman Anti-trust Act. It goes back further than that, including deregulation that basically allowed the return of Ma Bell. The law is still there, and it’s still enforceable. We’ve just decided that we’re not going to enforce it. Instead, we’ve gone the other way and allowed more and more consolidation - hell, we encouraged it during the mortgage bubble meltdown.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m on board with this idea, I’ve been saying we need more antitrust enforcement for a decade plus. But after almost three decades of movement in this direction, it’s going to be incredibly difficult to move things back. Especially if you can’t explain how you plan to do it and why it will be better.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:54:02am

re: #77 dangerman

It’s probably on the other side.

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darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:54:04am
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makeitstop  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:54:23am

Another appointee, another Russian connection.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:54:58am

re: #80 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

It’s probably on the other side.

On the bottom — pineapple upside-down My Little Ponion* pizza

*a newly discovered particle; comes in seven colors

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:56:53am

re: #81 darthstar

I’m here to announce my new pick for the Department State, State of State, whatever. It’s Mr. Jared Kushner. A man of profound integrity, great knowledge, the greatest. Knows meetings. Knows people. Solved the Mideast crisis that Obama created. Ended war in Syria.

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KGxvi  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:57:45am

re: #81 darthstar

I saw that story over the weekend. Imagine how fucked the hearing will be in September (?) when Trump has to appoint a new SoS and AG? And I wonder if there’s anyone who has the wherewithal to take those jobs?

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darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:58:44am

re: #85 KGxvi

I saw that story over the weekend. Imagine how fucked the hearing will be in September (?) when Trump has to appoint a new SoS and AG? And I wonder if there’s anyone who has the wherewithal to take those jobs?

To say having the Secretary of State leaving after six months is a big fucking deal would be a bit of an understatement.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 24, 2017 • 11:59:31am

re: #85 KGxvi

Might take him a year to nominate a replacement.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:00:22pm

re: #86 darthstar

To say having the Secretary of State leaving after six months is a big fucking deal would be a bit of an understatement.

McMasters can’t be far behind. Wonder if Mattis hangs on for four years?

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KGxvi  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:00:23pm

re: #86 darthstar

To say having the Secretary of State leaving after six months is a big fucking deal would be a bit of an understatement.

Especially with so many posts left unfilled and a prior pledge to reorganize the department.

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:00:42pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:01:02pm

re: #86 darthstar

To say having the Secretary of State leaving after six months is a big fucking deal would be a bit of an understatement.

This fiasco of an administration is a complete laughingstock.

Anyone wanna wager that he appoints Ivanka as SoS? Would anyone be surprised?

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KGxvi  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:02:38pm

re: #91 Dr Lizardo

This fiasco of an administration is a complete laughingstock.

Anyone wanna wager that he appoints Ivanka as SoS? Would anyone be surprised?

Honest question, when was the last time a cabinet nominee was actually rejected by the Senate, by vote? Not the typical “I’m withdrawing my nomination” bullshit, but an actual vote that said, “nope, not this person”?

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:04:25pm

re: #91 Dr Lizardo

This fiasco of an administration is a complete laughingstock.

Anyone wanna wager that he appoints Ivanka as SoS? Would anyone be surprised?

My guess would be another executive, and Trump will agree to let him make some international business deal so he would take the office.

*Usually I avoid the generic “he/him” male pronoun, but there’s no way in hell anybody but an old white guy is getting the job. I think Trump already went through his entire binder of women.

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dangerman  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:04:47pm

re: #92 KGxvi

Honest question, when was the last time a cabinet nominee was actually rejected by the Senate, by vote? Not the typical “I’m withdrawing my nomination” bullshit, but an actual vote that said, “nope, not this person”?

IF this is accurate (2/3/17):

In 1989, when U.S. Senator John Tower was denied the job of Secretary of Defense under George H.W. Bush, that was the first time such a rejection had taken place in 30 years. And, nearly 30 years later, it still remains the most recent.

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KGxvi  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:04:56pm

re: #92 KGxvi

Ok, so apparently it was in 1989 (full list):

In 1989 President George H. W. Bush nominated John Tower, a former United States Senator, to be Secretary of Defense. He was investigated over claims of drunkenness, womanizing, and ties with defense contractors. The Senate rejected Tower by a vote of 53-47.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:05:03pm

re: #48 William Lewis

At least the cooks didn’t have to grind the pork.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:05:09pm

re: #92 KGxvi

Honest question, when was the last time a cabinet nominee was actually rejected by the Senate, by vote? Not the typical “I’m withdrawing my nomination” bullshit, but an actual vote that said, “nope, not this person”?

John Tower (GHW Bush’s 1st pic for Defense)? Not sure Tower made it through a full vote. Somebody in the Clinton era?

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:05:58pm

re: #92 KGxvi

Honest question, when was the last time a cabinet nominee was actually rejected by the Senate, by vote? Not the typical “I’m withdrawing my nomination” bullshit, but an actual vote that said, “nope, not this person”?

We nearly had it with Devos. We would have had it with the Labor Secretary had he not withdrawn early.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:06:26pm

re: #89 KGxvi

Especially with so many posts left unfilled and a prior pledge to reorganize the department.

Destruction of the government is Steve Bannon’s (and to a lesser extent, all conservatives and libertarian nihilist wing of the GOP) goal. Donald Trump’s goal was beat the black guy at his own game, and make money doing it.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:07:52pm

re: #95 KGxvi

Ok, so apparently it was in 1989 (full list):

Then H.W. Bush nominated Darth Cheney (who was actually a pretty good Sec of Defense and more sane then compared to what he would become under W.).

101
Dr. Matt  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:08:11pm

re: #51 Sir John Barron

Trump to speak to 40,000 at Boy Scouts gathering:

Didn’t wingnuts lose their shit when Obama spoke to the Boy Scouts?

102
Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:08:47pm

re: #101 Dr. Matt

Didn’t wingnuts lose their shit when Obama spoke to the Boy Scouts?

Adjusted for comprehensiveness.

103
darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:09:34pm

re: #91 Dr Lizardo

This fiasco of an administration is a complete laughingstock.

Anyone wanna wager that he appoints Ivanka as SoS? Would anyone be surprised?

“Acting SoS” for 3 1/2 years…no need for Senate approval. Honestly, I think it’s early to be betting on Tillerson baililng, but it has to suck being in a role that gets stepped on by the boss’s son-in-law on a regular basis.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:09:44pm

re: #92 KGxvi

Honest question, when was the last time a cabinet nominee was actually rejected by the Senate, by vote? Not the typical “I’m withdrawing my nomination” bullshit, but an actual vote that said, “nope, not this person”?

Wikipedia, that font of all human ken (citation needed) can provide that answer.

Nine total were rejected by the Senate. Last was John Tower for Secretary of Defense under Geo. H. W. Bush, who was rejected over reports of drunkeness, womanising, and ties to defence contractors.

Fourteen have withdrawn their names from consideration after nomination.
en.wikipedia.org

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:11:34pm

re: #103 darthstar

“Acting SoS” for 3 1/2 years…no need for Senate approval. Honestly, I think it’s early to be betting on Tillerson baililng, but it has to suck being in a role that gets stepped on by the boss’s son-in-law on a regular basis.

That’s a bingo!!

And that’s probably how he’d do it, too.

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KGxvi  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:12:55pm

re: #100 Sir John Barron

Then H.W. Bush nominated Darth Cheney (who was actually a pretty good Sec of Defense and more sane then compared to what he would become under W.).

I think Cheney was one of those politicians who lost their minds after 9/11.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:13:44pm

If Russia sanctions bill passes it probably puts Tillerson in an untenable situation.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:14:40pm

re: #107 Barefoot Grin

If Russia sanctions bill passes it probably puts Tillerson in an untenable situation.

And it sure as hell paints Trump into a corner too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:14:52pm

re: #105 Dr Lizardo

That’s a bingo!!

And that’s probably how he’d do it, too (appointing Ivanka acting head).

Unlawful.

law.cornell.edu

Moreover, an acting head of a department is appointed from within the department, not from outside of it. Acting heads may not change policies of the department (so if he wishes to change policy at the State Department, he needs a head, not an acting head).

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:15:40pm
111
sagehen  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:16:54pm

THREAD

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:17:19pm

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

Unlawful.

law.cornell.edu

Moreover, an acting head of a department is appointed from within the department, not from outside of it. Acting heads may not change policies of the department (so if he wishes to change policy at the State Department, he needs a head, not an acting head).

What matters the law now? This is Trump we’re talking about.

He simply doesn’t give a shit - he feels he’s not bound by laws. No one in the GOP-controlled Congress is telling him otherwise, that’s for damned sure.

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:17:31pm

re: #92 KGxvi

Honest question, when was the last time a cabinet nominee was actually rejected by the Senate, by vote? Not the typical “I’m withdrawing my nomination” bullshit, but an actual vote that said, “nope, not this person”?

Did John Bolton ever get a vote?

114
ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:18:36pm

I found an email address some might want to use. I just did. It is for HHS Secretary Tom Price. Please use it. Let that piece of slime have it for his and the Republican congress doing things like spending ACA budget on negative ads deigned to destroy the program and now messing with the legislation scoring (CBO).

secretary@hhs.gov

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:18:49pm

re: #112 Dr Lizardo

What matters the law now? This is Trump we’re talking about.

He simply doesn’t give a shit - he feels he’s not bound by laws. No one in the GOP-controlled Congress is telling him otherwise, that’s for damned sure.

True. But we have to keep caring.

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:19:06pm

re: #100 Sir John Barron

Then H.W. Bush nominated Darth Cheney (who was actually a pretty good Sec of Defense and more sane then compared to what he would become under W.).

Well, yeah. Back then he had a functioning heart. (not a metaphor. Back then, he actually had a regular human heart.)

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:20:10pm

re: #74 jaunte

[Embedded content]

What fucked up person puts a swastika on their airplane?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:21:21pm

re: #117 Scottish Dragon

What fucked up person puts a swastika on their airplane?

A tRump supporter?

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CleverToad  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:22:23pm

re: #22 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Thanks for the heads-up. Called my congress critter.
*grrrrrr*

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:22:25pm

Snopes is being sued by a corporation that (shadily) owns 50% of the shares of the company. (The corporation actually doesn’t own those shares of the S-corp that is Snopes: five board members of the corporation do.)

The suit is rather convoluted, so Wonkette explains it with the usual snark:
wonkette.com

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wrenchwench  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:26:14pm

The girl messed it up, not the dog.

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:26:51pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:26:53pm

re: #106 KGxvi

I think Cheney was one of those politicians who lost their minds after 9/11.

I think it was all about business. That ‘war’ on terror made him and his buddies plenty of coin.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:31:31pm

re: #101 Dr. Matt

Didn’t wingnuts lose their shit when Obama spoke to the Boy Scouts?

Trump would have been an Eagle Scout, if not for the bone spurs.

125
jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:31:33pm

re: #117 Scottish Dragon

Another economically distressed southerner.

126
Interesting Times  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:31:34pm

Well fancy the fuck out of that… :/

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:31:46pm

re: #107 Barefoot Grin

If Russia sanctions bill passes it probably puts Tillerson in an untenable situation.

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

And it sure as hell paints Trump into a corner too.

I’ve been wondering if the sanctions are the Republicans in congress trying to show Trump he is not in charge of everything and can’t get his way. Maybe they are testing him to see how far he is going to go to get his way and use that as a bit of their own judgement on how bad his Russian connections really are. Not that they will do anything about it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:31:50pm

rawstory.com

Jason Chaffetz on his first outing on FOX News Channel, asks why Congress is questioning Jared Kushner, but letting Chelsea Clinton off the hook with questions about Benghazi. (more at the link):

“So every time a Democrat says ‘I gotta talk to Donald Trump Jr.,’ then go up and bring Chelsea Clinton in there,” Chaffetz continued, “because she was involved in the Benghazi situation, she was involved with the (Clinton) Foundation.”

He didn’t detail what possible crimes Chelsea Clinton may have committed, but Chaffetz said it was ridiculous that congressional investigators wanted to speak with Kushner about the foreign contacts and loans he failed to disclose on his security clearance forms.

“They would never, ever, ever do this to the Clintons,” Chaffetz said.

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Jack Burton  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:33:48pm

re: #31 lawhawk

Poor boy Kushner is so put upon for having all this work for which he is entirely unqualified to do and yet he’s still attending meetings unquestionably.

Trump told him he’s in charge of everything and he doesn’t know what he’s doing. It’s someone else’s fault he attended a meeting that he went and left off of all his SF-86 filings.

Each time he leaves something off the SF-86, that’s an act or omission in violation of 18 USC 1001. It says it right there on the form. You don’t get a do-over, let alone 3 do-overs.

This crapweasel is up to his same tricks, and shouldn’t help him one bit. If anyone else did what he did, they’d have all lost their security clearance by now, let alone their job.

If you search for 18 USC 1001 on Google, the first highlighted result is this:

So I’m assuming that Law Group is trying to advertise to people in the Clownstick admin?

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:34:28pm

“…While some might make the defense that the person who slapped a swastika on the aircraft was going for historical accuracy, that might not be the best argument. Kelsey Atherton, defense technology reporter at Popular Science, pointed out on Twitter that the Sonex craft that landed on the Georgia highway didn’t look all that much like a Messerschmitt BF 109.

“Going for historical accuracy in the paint is an odd defense when the plane it’s trying to mimic looks way different,” Atherton tweeted while posting photos of the two aircraft side by side.”
newsweek.com

131
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:35:46pm

re: #92 KGxvi

The last time I remember that a cabinet member was rejected was John Tower as Defense Secretary in 1989.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:35:54pm

This is fucking insane. Republicans really are trying to destroy the very idea of objective facts and non-partisan expertise.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:36:06pm

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹

rawstory.com

Jason Chaffetz on his first outing on FOX News Channel, asks why Congress is questioning Jared Kushner, but letting Chelsea Clinton off the hook with questions about Benghazi. (more at the link):

Glad Fox Noise finally has a conservative voice on to represent the common unbiased man.

////

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dangerman  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:38:25pm

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹

Snopes is being sued by a corporation that (shadily) owns 50% of the shares of the company. (The corporation actually doesn’t own those shares of the S-corp that is Snopes: five board members of the corporation do.)

The suit is rather convoluted, so Wonkette explains it with the usual snark:
wonkette.com

never split corp stock 50/50 - it’s all about when things go wrong. and things go wrong a lot

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:38:25pm

re: #85 KGxvi

I saw that story over the weekend. Imagine how fucked the hearing will be in September (?) when Trump has to appoint a new SoS and AG? And I wonder if there’s anyone who has the wherewithal to take those jobs?

Hmmm…Jon Voight, Robert Davi, WayneNewton, Donny Osmond…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:38:26pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

This is fucking insane. Republicans really are trying to destroy the very idea of objective facts and non-partisan expertise.

Facts and expertise have a well-known liberal bias.

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makeitstop  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:38:29pm

I guess planes landing on highways is now a thing. It happened about 10 minutes from here last week.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:40:48pm

re: #135 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hmmm…Jon Voight, Robert Davi, WayneNewton, Donny Osmond…

Scott Baio.

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Semper Fi  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:42:26pm

re: #121 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

The girl messed it up, not the dog.

That is over-the-top cute.

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dangerman  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:44:40pm

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹

“They would never, ever, ever do this to the Clintons,” Chaffetz said.:

because chelsea hasnt done what DJT, JR, Manafort, Kushner, Flynn, sessions et al appear to have done.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:44:52pm

Damn. I absolutely hate this fucking guy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:47:47pm

re: #134 dangerman

never split corp stock 50/50 - it’s all about when things go wrong. and things go wrong a lot

I don’t have to worry about splitting my corporate stock 50/50 with anyone. That would involve having enough money to own a corporation first.

As Rebecca Schoenkopf noted in that article, her hub is screwed if he wants to try a divorce, because their spilt is 60/40.

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:48:29pm

re: #121 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

The girl messed it up, not the dog.

The little pooch looks back like “hey…what happened…I want more!”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:49:11pm
146
VegasGolfer  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:49:26pm

cant wait till they fact check all those families that trump brought up and find out that their stories don’t match what he claimed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:50:04pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

Seventeen years? As in, before President Obama was first elected to the Senate?

Why is the GOP allowing this circus to continue (wait, I know, they want to destroy government, and Trump makes a good, if buffoonish, Gozer).

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EPR-radar  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:50:57pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

CBS is cleaning up after tr*mp because they don’t want to admit the president is a crooked, incompetent and awesomely corrupt man-baby.

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wrenchwench  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:52:30pm
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dangerman  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:52:37pm

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t have to worry about splitting my corporate stock 50/50 with anyone. That would involve having enough money to own a corporation first.

As Rebecca Schoenkopf noted in that article, her hub is screwed if he wants to try a divorce, because their spilt is 60/40.

hey - for less than $100 bucks you too can file articles of incorporation and put “CEO” on your business card, just like Donald Trump!

151
Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:53:27pm
152
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:54:21pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

That’s straight up lying for him. In editing, brackets are to put in [clarifying] information, not correct what was said.

CBS is intentionally misusing grammatical tools to make it appear the words seven years were left out or needed clarification.

As their president said, they didn’t know if Trump would be good for America but he would be damn good for CBS.

It should read (editing hat on):

“For the past seventeen years, Obamacare has wreaked havoc on the lives of innocent, hard-working Americans,” Trump says [the act has only been in force for seven years]

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KGxvi  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:54:23pm

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t have to worry about splitting my corporate stock 50/50 with anyone. That would involve having enough money to own a corporation first.

As Rebecca Schoenkopf noted in that article, her hub is screwed if he wants to try a divorce, because their spilt is 60/40.

Honestly, it doesn’t cost too much to form a corporation, if you’re running a business. And if you are running a business and have any sort of assets, you should incorporate to protect those assets. In Kansas filing Articles of Incorporation only runs about $100.

154
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:55:24pm

re: #150 dangerman

hey - for less than $100 bucks you too can file articles of incorporation and put “CEO” on your business card, just like Donald Trump!

LOL. I probably have more assets than Donald Trump as well, because we have no debt.

155
Dr. Matt  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:56:08pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

President Trump, speaking loudly over crying kids, says Obamacare has hurt the country for 17 years. pic.twitter.com

— Andrew Beatty (@AndrewBeatty) July 24, 2017

So, Obamacare was passed during Bill Clinton’s administration. Senility is a SOB.

156
KGxvi  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:56:16pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

In fairness, the last six months have felt like 6 years to many of us, so it probably does feel like 17 years to some.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:57:23pm
158
Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:58:15pm

re: #155 Dr. Matt

So, Obamacare was passed during Bill Clinton’s administration. Senility is a SOB.

Yep. He’s going senile.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 12:58:24pm
160
Ace Rothstein  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:00:20pm
161
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:00:35pm

re: #117 Scottish Dragon

What fucked up person puts a swastika on their airplane?

I put them on my model airplanes…I guess this fellow just thought he was flying a propeller-driven Me-163 Komet, that what my impression on seeing the plane.

162
Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:01:27pm
163
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:01:45pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

Meadows says the goal is to turn the CBO into an “aggregator” that doesn’t produce legislative scores, but combines scores from think tanks

in other words, privatizing it out to the highest bidder

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:02:08pm

re: #160 Ace Rothstein

[Embedded content]

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Dr. Matt  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:02:40pm
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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:03:06pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:04:37pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:06:22pm
169
nines09  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:07:12pm

The closer you look at that group in the back, behind Trump, the more it looks like an unresolved hostage situation…

170
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:07:21pm

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

in other words, privatizing it out to the highest most conservative bidder

171
Ace-o-aces  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:08:23pm

Graphic art fail.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:08:49pm

re: #168 FormerDirtDart

They also going to look at John McCain?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:10:39pm

re: #160 Ace Rothstein

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:14:05pm

Think on this and shudder:

Omarosa Manigault, Secretary of State

175
jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:15:00pm
176
Eventual Carrion  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:15:42pm

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹

rawstory.com

Jason Chaffetz on his first outing on FOX News Channel, asks why Congress is questioning Jared Kushner, but letting Chelsea Clinton off the hook with questions about Benghazi. (more at the link):

What position did Chelsea hold in the administration, I forget?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:17:54pm

re: #176 Eventual Carrion

What position did Chelsea hold in the administration, I forget?

None. And Chaffetz knows the difference. There’s a reason why Jenna and Barbara Bush weren’t questioned after 9/11 ya dumbass.

178
EPR-radar  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:18:02pm

re: #175 jaunte

Of course tr*mp lies about Obamacare being ‘death’.

The first rule for megalomaniacs in charge of a death cult is to project the hell out of everything, especially the death cult part.

179
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:18:10pm

re: #176 Eventual Carrion

What position did Chelsea hold in the administration, I forget?

Daughter. According to the GOP nowadays, that’s a position in government. See also: Ivanka Trump. (Difference being Chelsea Clinton stayed far away from the White House during the Obama years, but being a Clinton, she can rack up a kill count merely by thought wave.)

180
Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:19:13pm

re: #168 FormerDirtDart

Let me know when Schiff get’s to half of the time Newt Gingrich has been on.

181
wrenchwench  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:20:09pm

Trump has made the Blue Room look like a fucking Las Vegas hotel lobby.

182
Semper Fi  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:21:17pm

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

Yep. He’s going senile.

I think so too. Macron led him by the hand so he wouldn’t wander off during Bastille Day ceremonies. Trump, I feel, knew he’d be safe as Macron is part of polite society. Trump takes advantage of polite society.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:22:18pm

re: #182 Semper Fi

I think so too. Macron led him by the hand so he wouldn’t wander off during Bastille Day ceremonies. Trump, I feel, knew he’d be safe as Macron is part of polite society. Trump takes advantage of polite society.

I think he’s senile too. It runs in his family and he has a lot of WTF moments.

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:24:42pm

re: #137 makeitstop

I guess planes landing on highways is now a thing. It happened about 10 minutes from here last week.

It’s always been a thing. During “practice emergencies” in my flight training, my instructor insisted I point to an “if all else fails” road just in case there’s too many houses for a better option. (mall parking lots are pretty good, too; sometimes even high school football fields if they’re not in a stadium”

185
Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:27:04pm

re: #4 jaunte

[Embedded content]

He couldn’t find one for Russia.

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:34:16pm

re: #171 Ace-o-aces

Graphic art fail.

[Embedded content]

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:35:55pm

re: #173 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

I just LOL so loud I scared the cats.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2017 • 1:50:15pm

re: #168 FormerDirtDart

Or how much time DJT spends on Twitter or watching TV plus tweeting about how much he doesn’t watch TV.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 2:00:40pm

re: #169 nines09

The closer you look at that group in the back, behind Trump, the more it looks like an unresolved hostage situation…

You are going to stand here and listen to this, or we’ll make you stay and listen to President Trump speak again.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 2:29:16pm

re: #189 wheat-dogg

You are going to stand here and listen to this, or we’ll make you stay and listen to President Trump speak again.

They just don’t look like the people I signed up for Obamacare. Can’t put my finger on it.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 2:37:06pm

Paging Shiplord Kirel…

Congressman: If female GOP senators were South Texas men, I’d challenge them to a duel

texastribune.org

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dangerman  Jul 24, 2017 • 4:49:13pm

re: #184 sagehen

It’s always been a thing. During “practice emergencies” in my flight training, my instructor insisted I point to an “if all else fails” road just in case there’s too many houses for a better option. (mall parking lots are pretty good, too; sometimes even high school football fields if they’re not in a stadium”

i was taught never to aim for a road - always an open field

aside from endangering traffic / human life, suburban roads - like sunrise highway have lots of overhead wires


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First Footage From the New Kodak Super 8 Film Camera Can't wait to get my hands on one. Probably gonna rent 'cause $2500 or more. But what a great look. One of Kodak’s goals is to make this new Kodak Super 8 camera “as easy to use as any ...
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Grandparents Say ‘God Called’ on Perris Couple to Have So Many Children The couple accused of shackling their 13 children in filthy conditions in a Perris home were deeply religious and believed God had called on them to have so many kids, according to the grandparents of the children.David and Louise ...
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How Russia Says It Swatted Down a Drone Swarm in Syria On the night of January 5, a swarm of explosives-laden small drones, apparently controlled by Syrian rebels, attacked two Russian bases in western Syria, the Kremlin confirmed on Thursday. Authorities claim that Russian defenses destroyed or disabled all of ...
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